Ip default route

2001-02-15 Thread birs

Hello

It might sound trivial, but can anyone explain the difference between:

ip default-gateway 10.0.1.1

and

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.0.1.1


Thanks

Birsen Ozturk


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Ip default gateway

2001-02-15 Thread birs

Hello

I just had a situation like this:
 I connected a Cisco1750 to Catalist2924, and then Catalist2924 to
Catalist8540 and configured "ip default-gateway 10.0.1.1" in
1750(10.0.1.1 is the ip of 8540). Then 1750 was ping'in only 10.0.1.1
255.255.255.240's hosts and no other network in my backbone.
Then I turned "ip default gateway 10.0.1.1" into "ip route 0.0.0.0
0.0.0.0 10.0.1.1" and my Cisco1750 started pinging every ip in my
backbone.

I will be grateful if anyone explains why "ip default-gateway"
didn't worked and what is the difference between these two. Thanks.

Birsen Ozturk

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ccnp routing frames

2001-02-15 Thread Robert Nickson

On the CCNP routing exam is there any questions on (i.e do i have to
memorise)
frame for frame the format of hello packets,DD packets,LSA packet
frames...etc
like ..version,type,packet length,route ID,Area ID,Checksum,Au
type,Authentication etc etc
or is there certain fields i should learn

Any help would be useful
-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NAT/PAT port pass-through


Hi all,
Im just experimenting with NAT/PAT and want to try to tunnel back to an
internal NT server to establish a VPN with it.  Say the internal address is
10.1.1.100 I want to pass all traffic from the external IP w.x.y.z(i s0) to
internal 10.1.1.100(int e0) for the following ports

Protocol ID TCP, Port 1723
Protocol ID 47, port all

Can anyone help out with some config pointers?

I've got NAT/PAT set up and working.

I would like to use PPTP to the router and let the router establish the VPN
but I don't think this router will support it.  It is running
11.1(c1600-y-l.113-2)

Any thoughts?

Craig Lindstrom
eSage
http://www.eSage.com
(801) 796-9595

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RE: ccnp routing frames

2001-02-15 Thread Robert Nickson

sorry for OSPF

-Original Message-
From: Robert Nickson 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ccnp routing frames


On the CCNP routing exam is there any questions on (i.e do i have to
memorise)
frame for frame the format of hello packets,DD packets,LSA packet
frames...etc
like ..version,type,packet length,route ID,Area ID,Checksum,Au
type,Authentication etc etc
or is there certain fields i should learn

Any help would be useful
-Original Message-
From: Cisco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NAT/PAT port pass-through


Hi all,
Im just experimenting with NAT/PAT and want to try to tunnel back to an
internal NT server to establish a VPN with it.  Say the internal address is
10.1.1.100 I want to pass all traffic from the external IP w.x.y.z(i s0) to
internal 10.1.1.100(int e0) for the following ports

Protocol ID TCP, Port 1723
Protocol ID 47, port all

Can anyone help out with some config pointers?

I've got NAT/PAT set up and working.

I would like to use PPTP to the router and let the router establish the VPN
but I don't think this router will support it.  It is running
11.1(c1600-y-l.113-2)

Any thoughts?

Craig Lindstrom
eSage
http://www.eSage.com
(801) 796-9595

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re: Cisco Lab Tax Write Off

2001-02-15 Thread Mike Fountain

I've always claimed mine.  Along with any books and the cost of taking the
exams.

I use Turbo Tax and claim it under "Work-Related Expenses" as an "education"
expense.  Here is what 'turbo tax' has been telling me ->

"You can deduct expenses for education - even though it may lead to a degree
if -

 1) It is required by your employer or the law to keep your job
 OR
 2) It maintains or improves skills required by your present job

 AND it is not

 1) Needed to meet the minimum requirements to qualify for a job
 OR
 2) It will qualify you for a different job or trade"

I figure all of these routers/books/test are improving my current skills
(2), so that applies.


PLEASE NOTE -> This is what I have been doing, but I won't guarantee it's
right.  If you use it and get audited, don't blame me, they will probably be
doing the same here :)


> Are router's/switche's/isdn simulator's purchased for the home lab
> tax deductible.  Also, are the ciscopress textbook's tax deductible
> expense.
>
> Is anyone else claiming these on the Federal Taxes?
>
> TIA


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Re: Azlan CCIE training UK

2001-02-15 Thread Stephen Skinner


hello,

there a two trainer`s that i know who run these classes.
Mike Reid and John berry

Mike has been CCIE for 5 yrs + teaches SEC + VOIP ..and has a tendancy to 
know everything.he was recently asked by BT to write some 
questions for there internal BGP accreditionand has a tendency to box 
your ears...by making it as hard as possible without killing you.

0John is the same but has been a CCIE for 7+ yrs he teaches 
SEC+VOIP+SNA-IP.and has a tendency to push you in the cCIE lab as far as 
you can go...

"i wont of them will make it easy..becuase the lab isn`t easy.

So i you don`t want to waste you moneystudy hard before you come"

those are his words.

they have both been a great help to me in my study`s (i don`t work there i 
just seem to spend most of my time there)

regards

steve

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>Subject: Azlan CCIE training UK
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:22:44 -
>
>Hi all, has any one any experience of the CCIE R&S training program Azlan
>provide. I would like feed back as to the quality of the training and it's
>relevance.
>
>Cheers Ged Bowey CCNP.
>
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Help with configuring VPN between Cisco 7100s and Concentrator 3000s

2001-02-15 Thread John Chambers

Hi Everyone,

I have to set up VPN communication for some our customers to access our
network via the Internet.  At my site, I will be using Cisco 7100
routers
with 2interfaces, one points to the Internet (129.174.1.8), the other
interface points to the internalnetwork (172.16.1.1).
At the customer site, they will use cisco concentrator 3000s which has 2

interfaces as well.  One interface points to the Internet (204.91.1.11),
the
other interface points to their internal network (192.168.1.1).  They
would like to be able from a work station on their network
(i.e. 192.168.1.2 for example), to access on of the servers in our
internal network (172.16.1.100).  The VPN communication will be
implemented with IPsec.  I am sure that this has been done before.
 If someone has a similar configuration, please send it to me.
I have done something between a client making a VPN connection to a
server via PPTP (microsoft cheesy way of implementing VPN) before;
however, I am new at this concentrator and cisco 7100s routers.

Please help...
John C.



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Re: Pix Firewall Issue

2001-02-15 Thread Tim O'Brien

Kevin,

The newest Cisco VPN3000 client (I believe that it is 2.6b and should be on
CCO within a week or 2) that supports Win2000 will terminate to a PIX
running 5.2 (I believe) or newer. I would suggest loading your 515 with the
newest code (5.3.1). You should be getting another email from me with the
link to the code. Grab the VPN software when available.

Tim


 O'Gilvie"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know of a vpn client for Windows 2000, I have Cisco Secure but
> it doesnt run on 2000, I need to implement a vpn solution for my company
> that will integrate with the PIX 515 that I just purchased..
>
> Regards,
>
> Kevin
>
>
> >From: "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Pix Firewall Issue
> >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:55:14 -0800
> >
> >Actually it's not a good idea to do a 'conduit permit icmp any any'.  If
> >you
> >want ping traffic to originate inside then do this:
> >
> >conduit permit icmp 208.184.23.0 255.255.255.0 any echoreply
> >
> >Think about the way ping works - your workstation sends an icmp echo -
the
> >end station sends an icmp echo-reply - which from the PIX standpoint is a
> >new inbound packet ( cuz it's stateless ).  Therefore - let the
echo-reply
> >in only.  Not all ICMP messages.
> >
> >Kenny
> >
> >"Daniel Cotts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >303479FA060CD211B893F805A88AA10F4C@EXCHANGE1">news:303479FA060CD211B893F805A88AA10F4C@EXCHANGE1...
> > > You're not telling us from where you are pinging. From the PIX? From a
> >host
> > > behind the Firewall? From a host outside the Firewall?
> > > Anyway this command is good to have in later versions if you want
pings
> >to
> > > traverse the PIX.
> > > conduit permit icmp any any
> > > You may also want to modify that command or eliminate it, if you want
to
> > > enforce a stronger policy.
> > >
>
>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/pix_v50/config/co
n
> > > fig.htm#xtocid1091627
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:09 PM
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject: Pix Firewall Issue
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Gang,
> > > >
> > > > I have a Pix Firewall 520 and wondered if this was a feature or a
> > > > configuration issue on my firwall.  We have an entire class C
> > > > address say
> > > > 208.184.23.x to use for our network. We use the 192.168.1.x
> > > > network for our
> > > > internal network.  I am having problems pinging a machine's
> > > > Internet ip
> > > > address say 208.184.23.11 which I noticed is statically mapped to
it's
> > > > internal address say 192.168.1.10 on the pix.
> > > >
> > > > For example, If I ping another box 208.184.23.12 and not
> > > > statically mapped
> > > > to a internal ip address on the pix, I get a response.
> > > >
> > > > Any help or hints would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
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Re: SBI/PacBell "Basic" ADSL PVCs?

2001-02-15 Thread Blair

Jason,

I'm not a cisco expert (yet) so please forgive me when I say I'm not sure
what you mean by "neither get me past Layer 2 ATM."
Is it that the 1720 won't let you authenticate to the ISP?  It seems your
PVCs are correct, but I've seen on www.dslreports.com that some folks have
tried 0/33, so you might want to try that.  Also, make sure that you check
to make sure that there's still a DSL signal by keeping the Westell set up
as well.
I hope that helps.

Regards,

Randy Blair - CNA, MCP
Field Engineer, SBC/Advanced Solutions Inc.
Ameritech Region

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:50 PM
Subject: SBI/PacBell "Basic" ADSL PVCs?


> Here's what I just sent off to PacBell's support team, but I'm sure I'll
> have to battle their live tech support personnel to get in touch with an
> engineer who can answer this (if someone else knows, that'd be great as my
> ATM knowledge is limited to configuring a few 1417 ADSL CPE routers):
>
> Up until this point the customer has connected with their Westel Wirespeed
> using the EnterNet 300 software. However, we're moving to a new platform
for
> VPN support and security:
>
> I'm configuring a Cisco 1720 router with an ADSL interface card for a
> customer with Basic ADSL which uses PPPoE. The Cisco 1720 supports PPPoE
> authentication, but I first need more ATM info. What PVC information
should
> I configure for the router? I've tried 0/35 & 8/35 (the two standard PVCs
I
> know about for Enhanced ADSL), but neither get me past Layer 2 ATM.
>
> --
>
> As a side note, here's the base config I used on the 1720 and also on an
> 827-4v for my personal static "Enhanced" ADSL connection (no need for
PPPoE,
> and PVC 0/35 worked):
>
> bridge irb
> !
> !
> !
> interface ATM0
>  no ip address
>  no ip route-cache
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  atm vc-per-vp 256
>  no atm ilmi-keepalive
>  pvc 0/35
>  !
>  dsl operating-mode auto
>  no fair-queue
>  bridge-group 1
> !
> interface FastEthernet0
>  ip address 192.168.45.172 255.255.255.0
>  speed auto
> !
> interface BVI1
> !  I configure a static MAC so that I don't have to wait
> !  for the PBI router's ARP table to
> !  clear out when I change routers
>  mac-address .0c85.8f1c
>  ip address 63.206.176.162 255.255.255.248
> !
> ip classless
> !
> bridge 1 protocol ieee
>  bridge 1 route ip
>
>
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Re: DB60 to RJ45 adapters?

2001-02-15 Thread justhangin

I found the adapters at...
WWW.CSDATA.COM





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Re: Ip default route

2001-02-15 Thread Mihai Dumitru




I quote from:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c/ipcprt1/1cdipadr.htm


"When IP routing is disabled, the default gateway feature and the router
discovery client are enabled, and proxy ARP is disabled. When IP routing
is enabled, the default gateway feature is disabled and you can
configure proxy ARP and the router discovery servers."

"IP routing is automatically enabled in the Cisco IOS software. If you
choose to set up the router to bridge rather than route IP datagrams,
you must disable IP routing. To reenable IP routing if it has been
disabled, use the following command in global configuration mode:

ip routing"


In other words, defining a "ip default-gateway" is just a method for
locating routes when you set up your router to act as a bridge.


birs wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> It might sound trivial, but can anyone explain the difference between:
> 
> ip default-gateway 10.0.1.1
> 
> and
> 
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.0.1.1
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Birsen Ozturk
> 
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Cisco Space Phone

2001-02-15 Thread David York

> Would someone send me a copy of the Cisco Space Phone email, I seemed to
> have lost mine.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Cameron Ashley 
> Sr. Network Engineer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Cisco Space Phone -

2001-02-15 Thread David York

Thanks guys/gals for sending the email to me.

Cameron Ashley 
Sr. Network Engineer
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Would like to buy 2 2501 routers

2001-02-15 Thread Croyle, James

Good morning, I would like to purchase 2  2501 routers minimum 4MB flash, 8
MB DRAM for a total price of around $1000.  If you would like to sell them
quickly, please email me.  Kindly don't waste your time on telling me your
thoughts on this price, use that time more wisely answering questions on
this list.  :-P

Thank you!

Jim Croyle

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RE: Azlan CCIE training UK

2001-02-15 Thread Stephen Skinner


ASH,

they do 2 one week labs which cost 1700 quid EACH.
they take place in london and wokingham ...i recon wokingham is the best 
location as that is where there head office is and where john berry works.

are they worth it?

Well it depends ...there are usually between 4-6 people on it and he will 
work you as hard as you can work.most people i spoke to found it an 
eye-opener because they thought they knew more than they did...
(when he breaks the lab he is nastyto make it as real as possible).

my advise take one week ...but prep before you go so you end up getting the 
most out of it(know the theory inside and out ...then you can concentrate on 
picking his brain) one group got stuck on day two because he changed an 
ip and no-one noticed

I intend going soon ..if i can (long story) for at least a week what i 
intend doing is take 2 weeks of .1st week study.hands-on at home 
...second week...lab that way i get the most out of it...

i hope this helps

steve

>From: "Ash Aslam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Stephen Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Azlan CCIE training UK
>Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:23:30 -
>
>Hi Stephen,
>
>Any ideas how much these CCIE classes cost and the duration?
>
>Also are they worth the cost in your opinion?
>
>Thanks,
>Ash
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Stephen Skinner
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:57 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Azlan CCIE training UK
>
>
>
>hello,
>
>there a two trainer`s that i know who run these classes.
>Mike Reid and John berry
>
>Mike has been CCIE for 5 yrs + teaches SEC + VOIP ..and has a tendancy to
>know everything.he was recently asked by BT to write some
>questions for there internal BGP accreditionand has a tendency to box
>your ears...by making it as hard as possible without killing you.
>
>0John is the same but has been a CCIE for 7+ yrs he teaches
>SEC+VOIP+SNA-IP.and has a tendency to push you in the cCIE lab as far 
>as
>you can go...
>
>"i wont of them will make it easy..becuase the lab isn`t easy.
>
>So i you don`t want to waste you moneystudy hard before you come"
>
>those are his words.
>
>they have both been a great help to me in my study`s (i don`t work there i
>just seem to spend most of my time there)
>
>regards
>
>steve
>
> >From: "Ged Bowey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Ged Bowey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Azlan CCIE training UK
> >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:22:44 -
> >
> >Hi all, has any one any experience of the CCIE R&S training program Azlan
> >provide. I would like feed back as to the quality of the training and 
>it's
> >relevance.
> >
> >Cheers Ged Bowey CCNP.
> >
> >
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RE: Fw: Is this COOL or what? Cisco Space Phones!

2001-02-15 Thread Lopez, Robert

Have you seen the IP SoftPhone, yet?  There's a demo on Cisco web site.  Go 
to 
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/largeent/avvid/solutions/collaboration.
html 
and click on "See a Flash Demo of Cisco IP Phone"

-Original Message-
From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:42 AM
To: Arthur Simplina; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fw: Is this COOL or what? Cisco Space Phones!


So, wheres the URL or info on 'Cisco Space Phones' ?

--- Arthur Simplina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is COOL!!!
> 
> >Received this today from my inside sales manager.
> >
> >Though you "might" consider blowing your own horn -
> it is still cool.
> >
> >Kevin Wigle


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adding rights to privileged???

2001-02-15 Thread Zabludovsky, Mark A

Hi Group,
I wanted to know if it was possible to allow somebody with only
privileged level access to a device, to see more than they normally can?
Basically, when they type the "show ?" command set, is there a way to allow
them to see more parameters than they normally can? Also, if this is
possible, would this be the same for everybody that went into the device
under privileged mode? Thanks for the help all...

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNP, CCDA
Saint Gobain WAN Team
Cisco Network Specialist
Work: (610) 341-7678
Mobile: (267) 981-1123


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Re: alternative to Cisco routers

2001-02-15 Thread mtieast

Why would you not trust a Linux box to route? What experience or
documentation do you have that would lead you to believe that a properly
configured Linux box could not or would not do the job. There are a lot of
companies using Linux these days. One of largest distributed processing
systems is based on large linux clusters, most of Mariott's reservation
system is based on it. Lot's of ISP's use it as their core e-mail, and web
systems, and I have seen some departmental use of Linux or Windows NT
machines being used as routers.

A cisco router is not that much different in architecture. At the highest
level, It is a processor that runs a unix kernel based OS with some NIC or
serial interfaces and an application designed specifically for routing. The
real difference is in the software that runs on the router. There is no
special ASIC's or processors  on the router. IT is a computer (less intel
pentium processor except in the PIX) w/o the added multimedia and I/O
hardware, driven by a unix kernel running software , very similiar to any
other computer. The real difference is in the application, or software it
runs, not it's hardware architecure.

My understanding is that some of the processors found in the router are the
same that can be found in certain Apple or Macintosh PC's and other
non-windows based cpu's.


This is my humble opinion based on my limited knowledge of the router
architecture. However I agree that it would not be appropriate to place a
linux box at the core of your network there are certainly times or
applications and solutions where it would be fine. It is not designed
specifically for routing, but it will certainly do the job if simple routing
is all that is needed.



-Original Message-
From: William E. Gragido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'anthony kim' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers


>Are you serious? You would use a Linux box in place of a router Are you
>mad man?  I mean, I am as much a fan of Linux as the next geek, however I
>would not entrust routing/switching duties to it.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>anthony kim
>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:24 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: alternative to Cisco routers
>
>
>This is all well and good for the big time players, ISPs, big corps
>yadda yadda yadda, and companies with cash to burn like so much old toilet
>paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always can
>accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and
>cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support.
>
>So my obligatory cisco alternative:
>www.zebra.org
>
>On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:00:36PM -0600, William E. Gragido wrote:
>>There ServerIronXL Layer 4-7 switches are pretty cool boxes as well.
>>Foundry is also pretty nice in that their command line interface is
awfully
>>reminiscent of Cisco's.  The transition from one to the other should not
be
>>too difficult.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Christopher Kolp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:41 PM
>>To: 'Brant Stevens'; 'William E. Gragido'; 'Howard C. Berkowitz';
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers
>>
>>
>>Foundry prices are killer and the performance is top notch.
>>
>>We're planning a roll out with 40 OC-12 POS. Guess who our preferred
>>provider is?
>>
>>None other than foundry.
>>
>>-ck
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>>Brant Stevens
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:28 PM
>>To: William E. Gragido; 'Howard C. Berkowitz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers
>>
>>
>>Not to mention Foundry...
>>
>>Brant I. Stevens
>>Internetwork Solutions Engineer
>>Thrupoint, Inc.
>>545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
>>New York, NY. 10017
>>646-562-6540
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>>William E. Gragido
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:47 PM
>>To: 'Howard C. Berkowitz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers
>>
>>
>>Riding on the coat tails of Howard's comments, there are also other
players
>>out there like Lucent(home of the  Nexibit N64000 Terabit Switch Router
and
>>the Ascend product lines), Avici, Charlette's Web, Nortel etc., that offer
>>carrier grade solutions.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>>Howard C. Berkowitz
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:20 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: alternative to Cisco routers
>>
>>
>>A few comments, in which I think I am being reasonably objective.
>>
>>On this list, people periodically speak of the joys of Cisco, because
>>it offers end-to-end solutions.  That is a very enterprise-oriented
>>view.
>>
>>Much more than in the enterp

adding rights to user mode??? (oops)

2001-02-15 Thread Zabludovsky, Mark A

Sorry, got mixed up with modes...I meant user...

Hi Group,
I wanted to know if it was possible to allow somebody with only
user level access to a device, to see more than they normally can?
Basically, when they type the "show ?" command set, is there a way to allow
them to see more parameters than they normally can? Also, if this is
possible, would this be the same for everybody that went into the device
under user mode? Thanks for the help all...

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNP, CCDA
Saint Gobain WAN Team
Cisco Network Specialist
Work: (610) 341-7678
Mobile: (267) 981-1123


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Re: 2621 FastEthernet<-Trunking-> 2924XL <-Trunking>1912Enterprise Setup

2001-02-15 Thread John Neiberger

>>> "Cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/14/01 6:42:19 PM >>>
>
>I'm looking for an example config of a 2924XL switch trunking to the
a
>fastethernet port on a 2621 and trunking to a 1912 using ISL.  I've
searched
>CCO without luck.  Please post anything relevent.
>
>Thanks - Dave

Here is a sample config for trunking four vlans between a 2620 and a
2924XL.  This is just a sample, but it is a working configuration.

Cisco 2620:

interface FastEthernet0/0
 no ip address
 speed 100
 full-duplex
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.1
 description To User LAN
 encapsulation isl 1
 ip address 10.12.103.70 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.2
 description Branch Security VLAN
 encapsulation isl 2
 ip address 10.12.203.129 255.255.255.224
 no ip redirects
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.3
 description Voice TLAN
 encapsulation isl 3
 ip address 10.12.203.33 255.255.255.224
 no ip redirects
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.4
 description Voice ELAN
 encapsulation isl 4
 ip address 10.12.203.65 255.255.255.224
 no ip redirects
!
---

Catalyst 2924XL:

interface FastEthernet0/1
 description ISL trunk to 2600
 duplex full
 speed 100
 switchport mode trunk
 spanning-tree portfast
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/23
 duplex half
 speed 10
 switchport access vlan 3
!
interface FastEthernet0/24
 duplex half
 speed 10
 switchport access vlan 4
!
interface VLAN1
 ip address 10.12.103.16 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
!


HTH,
John

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RE: Ip default gateway

2001-02-15 Thread West, Karl

I think what you really wanted to do was use "Ip default-network"
here is a link that will explain it to you further and what the difference
is. It has to do with weather you have ip routing enabled on your system.

Karl
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/default.html

-Original Message-
From: birs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 5:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ip default gateway


Hello

I just had a situation like this:
 I connected a Cisco1750 to Catalist2924, and then Catalist2924 to
Catalist8540 and configured "ip default-gateway 10.0.1.1" in
1750(10.0.1.1 is the ip of 8540). Then 1750 was ping'in only 10.0.1.1
255.255.255.240's hosts and no other network in my backbone.
Then I turned "ip default gateway 10.0.1.1" into "ip route 0.0.0.0
0.0.0.0 10.0.1.1" and my Cisco1750 started pinging every ip in my
backbone.

I will be grateful if anyone explains why "ip default-gateway"
didn't worked and what is the difference between these two. Thanks.

Birsen Ozturk

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Re: SBI/PacBell "Basic" ADSL PVCs?

2001-02-15 Thread Scott M. Trieste

Why are you wasting your time with ATM over broadband?

""Jason"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Here's what I just sent off to PacBell's support team, but I'm sure I'll
> have to battle their live tech support personnel to get in touch with an
> engineer who can answer this (if someone else knows, that'd be great as my
> ATM knowledge is limited to configuring a few 1417 ADSL CPE routers):
>
> Up until this point the customer has connected with their Westel Wirespeed
> using the EnterNet 300 software. However, we're moving to a new platform
for
> VPN support and security:
>
> I'm configuring a Cisco 1720 router with an ADSL interface card for a
> customer with Basic ADSL which uses PPPoE. The Cisco 1720 supports PPPoE
> authentication, but I first need more ATM info. What PVC information
should
> I configure for the router? I've tried 0/35 & 8/35 (the two standard PVCs
I
> know about for Enhanced ADSL), but neither get me past Layer 2 ATM.
>
> --
>
> As a side note, here's the base config I used on the 1720 and also on an
> 827-4v for my personal static "Enhanced" ADSL connection (no need for
PPPoE,
> and PVC 0/35 worked):
>
> bridge irb
> !
> !
> !
> interface ATM0
>  no ip address
>  no ip route-cache
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  atm vc-per-vp 256
>  no atm ilmi-keepalive
>  pvc 0/35
>  !
>  dsl operating-mode auto
>  no fair-queue
>  bridge-group 1
> !
> interface FastEthernet0
>  ip address 192.168.45.172 255.255.255.0
>  speed auto
> !
> interface BVI1
> !  I configure a static MAC so that I don't have to wait
> !  for the PBI router's ARP table to
> !  clear out when I change routers
>  mac-address .0c85.8f1c
>  ip address 63.206.176.162 255.255.255.248
> !
> ip classless
> !
> bridge 1 protocol ieee
>  bridge 1 route ip
>
>
> --
> Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
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RE: Cisco PIX : Static and Conduit command

2001-02-15 Thread Nabil Fares

That's true, conduits are going away.  The only reason you see them is for
backward compatibility issues.  Definitely use static commands with
access-lists.  Its a two-step process, but its a nice feature.


HTH

Nabil

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Subject: Cisco PIX : Static and Conduit command


Does anybody know about the advantage of having static conduit command
compare with
access-list/access-group command in PIX?.

I heard that the static conduit will no longer available in the future
realease. Is it True??.

Thanks.

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RE: adding rights to privileged???

2001-02-15 Thread West, Karl

Well it depends on what your doing? Are you setting the privilege mode in
the router or are you using something like 
CiscoSecure/Tacacs+  ?

Karl

-Original Message-
From: Zabludovsky, Mark A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 9:58 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: adding rights to privileged???


Hi Group,
I wanted to know if it was possible to allow somebody with only
privileged level access to a device, to see more than they normally can?
Basically, when they type the "show ?" command set, is there a way to allow
them to see more parameters than they normally can? Also, if this is
possible, would this be the same for everybody that went into the device
under privileged mode? Thanks for the help all...

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNP, CCDA
Saint Gobain WAN Team
Cisco Network Specialist
Work: (610) 341-7678
Mobile: (267) 981-1123


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INCREDIBLY OFF TOPIC: Phones?

2001-02-15 Thread Denis A. Baldwin

Hi there guys,

Sorry for the offtopic post, but I'm hoping to query up some info from the
best and brightest in this business.  Please respond to my e-mail address at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you feel the list doesn't need to hear your replies.

My question is this:  We have a severely aging PC-based PBX system that
sucks.  We were looking at VoIP and IP Phones, but have no idea where to
start or how to sort out the features.  Can anyone give me the location of
any compare and constrast articles on the subject? or maybe a name and
number of a dealer or someone I could talk to about it?  Thanks in advance
and once again, sorry for posting off topic.  You guys are just so helpful.

Denis


Denis A. Baldwin - Network Administrator
A+ / Network + / I-Net+ / MCP


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Re: alternative to Cisco routers

2001-02-15 Thread anthony kim


--- Kenneth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think Cisco, in any way, will beat a Linux box in pricing.
> 
> As far as performance go, if you look at it in an objective way, the
> advantage of a cisco router wouldn't matter that much for a company of
> under
> 100 people.
> 
> I love Cisco but there is a time and a place when it comes to
> implementing
> their solution. In fact, Foundry switches that I had tested kicked their
> butt but we ended up going with a Cisco switch because my boss "knows"
> the
> Cisco reputation. Being an engineer, I can only give him facts and
> figures
> and its up to the people signing the checks to decide who they want to
> go
> for.
> 


been there, done that, didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
we all feel your pain.


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Re: Azlan CCIE training UK

2001-02-15 Thread Ged Bowey

Thanks for your insight, I guess I had better get my books out before I book
the course.
Ged Bowey

""Stephen Skinner"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>
> ASH,
>
> they do 2 one week labs which cost 1700 quid EACH.
> they take place in london and wokingham ...i recon wokingham is the
best
> location as that is where there head office is and where john berry works.
>
> are they worth it?
>
> Well it depends ...there are usually between 4-6 people on it and he will
> work you as hard as you can work.most people i spoke to found it an
> eye-opener because they thought they knew more than they did...
> (when he breaks the lab he is nastyto make it as real as possible).
>
> my advise take one week ...but prep before you go so you end up getting
the
> most out of it(know the theory inside and out ...then you can concentrate
on
> picking his brain) one group got stuck on day two because he changed
an
> ip and no-one noticed
>
> I intend going soon ..if i can (long story) for at least a week what i
> intend doing is take 2 weeks of .1st week study.hands-on at home
> ...second week...lab that way i get the most out of it...
>
> i hope this helps
>
> steve
>
> >From: "Ash Aslam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Stephen Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Azlan CCIE training UK
> >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:23:30 -
> >
> >Hi Stephen,
> >
> >Any ideas how much these CCIE classes cost and the duration?
> >
> >Also are they worth the cost in your opinion?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Ash
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Stephen Skinner
> >Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:57 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Azlan CCIE training UK
> >
> >
> >
> >hello,
> >
> >there a two trainer`s that i know who run these classes.
> >Mike Reid and John berry
> >
> >Mike has been CCIE for 5 yrs + teaches SEC + VOIP ..and has a tendancy to
> >know everything.he was recently asked by BT to write some
> >questions for there internal BGP accreditionand has a tendency to box
> >your ears...by making it as hard as possible without killing you.
> >
> >0John is the same but has been a CCIE for 7+ yrs he teaches
> >SEC+VOIP+SNA-IP.and has a tendency to push you in the cCIE lab as far
> >as
> >you can go...
> >
> >"i wont of them will make it easy..becuase the lab isn`t easy.
> >
> >So i you don`t want to waste you moneystudy hard before you come"
> >
> >those are his words.
> >
> >they have both been a great help to me in my study`s (i don`t work there
i
> >just seem to spend most of my time there)
> >
> >regards
> >
> >steve
> >
> > >From: "Ged Bowey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Ged Bowey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Azlan CCIE training UK
> > >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:22:44 -
> > >
> > >Hi all, has any one any experience of the CCIE R&S training program
Azlan
> > >provide. I would like feed back as to the quality of the training and
> >it's
> > >relevance.
> > >
> > >Cheers Ged Bowey CCNP.
> > >
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RE: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work.

2001-02-15 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

See comments inline:

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Paul Werner
>Sent: February 14, 2001 10:09 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work.
>
>>Okay, here's the jist of things.
>
>Big huge mondo snip...
>
>
>> So... do we have an active looped topology?  I doubt it.  
>> Likely, Spanning Tree's working just fine.  Check the LED's on both
>> of your switches to see if you see a solid orange glow...
>
>Leigh Anne,
>
>I like your style and troubleshooting methodology.  I think you 
>have honed in on the root cause of the problem (pun intended :-)
>I don't have the previous day's post, but there were a few 
>entries that were dead culprits as to the problem.  After 
>reviewing the snipped configs, I am now more convinced than 
>ever.  It is a loss of connectivity issue.  It is true that the 
>uplink ports will both need to be trunked (and only one was 
>shown as trunking), but that will not fully explain the STP 
>problem.  if you looked at the 2nd post where all of the 
>interface stats were shown, you would have noticed that on all  
>of the ports that were alledged to be trunking, two of them had 
>duplex and speed status unknown.

LAC:  Pierre-Alex indicated he was providing statistics on all
ports that were active - not "alleged to be trunking".  A quick
review of the running-config on the 2924XL showed that only 
0/20 was set to actively trunk.

I did review all duplex and speed configurations on all of his
ports (and noted what VLANs each were set for).  Active ports
on the 2924XL were 1, 9, 16, 20, 21, and 24.  Ports 1 and 8 were
configured to be members of VLAN3.  Ports 9, 16, and 24 were
configured to be members of VLAN2.  That only left ports 20 and
21 - both of which were running at 100 Mbps full duplex:

FastEthernet0/20 is up, line protocol is up
  Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX

FastEthernet0/21 is up, line protocol is up
  Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX

(See the bottom of this email for excerpts from Pierre-Alex's
configs for these interfaces).

Fa 0/21 wasn't explicitly configured to be trunking - and a 
review of the port's statistics indicated that there hadn't
been any input received on the port for 3 hours, 49 mins, 16
seconds.  That meant that IF Fa 0/21 WAS in fact physically
connected to Fa 0/27 on the 1912, Fa 0/27 wasn't sending
frames.  Why wouldn't it?  It appeared to be functional...
It should have been sending BPDUs every 2 seconds.  So... for
some reason, it wasn't communicating.  

Pierre-Alex confirmed that Fa 0/21 was in fact physically
connected to Fa 0/27.  The one aspect of the configuration that
wasn't kosher was that Fa 0/21 wasn't set to trunk.  I asked
him to set it to trunk, and voila, spanning tree blocked 
Fa 0/27 as expected.

So... I had in fact ruled out duplex and speed mismatches
between the "trunking" ports - so I knew that wasn't the
cause.

By the way, thanks for the compliment on my troubleshooting
skills.  I personally really enjoyed Pierre-Alex's scenerio
and I must say, my knowledge of Spanning Tree and switching
was really challenged during this exercise.  Took me a while
to pick through everything, but my spanning tree 
troubleshooting skill-set increased significantly as a result
of this exercise!  

Thanks to Paul Borghese for maintaining this list for these
many months.  He's really the one responsible for all of us
having this opportunity to learn from stuff like this...


  -- Leigh Anne


>That is a dead ringer for this sort of dilemma.  Always hard
>code your duplex and speed settings for trunks.  I cannot think
>of a good reason not to, and lots of good reasons against. 
>If you check the last config posted, you will note that the
>speed and duplex were not hard coded.
>
>HTH,
>
>Paul Werner


- ON THE 1912

FastEthernet 0/26 is Enabled
  Hardware is Built-in 100Base-TX
  Duplex/Flow Control setting: Auto-negotiate
  Auto-negotiation status:  Full duplex

Receive Statistics   Transmit Statistics
---  -
Frames filtered   18511  Single collisions   0
Runt frames   0  Multiple collisions 0
No buffer discards0  Excessive collisions0
 Queue full discards 0
Errors:  Errors:
  FCS errors  0Late collisions   0
  Alignment errors0Excessive deferrals   0
  Giant frames0Jabber errors 0
  Address violations  0Other transmit errors 0


FastEthernet 0/27 is Enabled
  Duplex/Flow Control setting: Auto-negotiate
  Auto-negotiation status:  Full duplex

Receive Statistics   Transmit Statistics
---  -
Frames filtered   0  Single collisions   0
Runt frames   0  Multiple collisions 0
No buffer discards  

RE: adding rights to privileged???(DONE)

2001-02-15 Thread Zabludovsky, Mark A

Sorry, I meant user mode, and I already figured out that my problem wasn't a
problem at all. Thanks for the time though...  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: West, Karl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:49 AM
To: Zabludovsky, Mark A; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: adding rights to privileged???


Well it depends on what your doing? Are you setting the privilege mode in
the router or are you using something like 
CiscoSecure/Tacacs+  ?

Karl

-Original Message-
From: Zabludovsky, Mark A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 9:58 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: adding rights to privileged???


Hi Group,
I wanted to know if it was possible to allow somebody with only
privileged level access to a device, to see more than they normally can?
Basically, when they type the "show ?" command set, is there a way to allow
them to see more parameters than they normally can? Also, if this is
possible, would this be the same for everybody that went into the device
under privileged mode? Thanks for the help all...

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNP, CCDA
Saint Gobain WAN Team
Cisco Network Specialist
Work: (610) 341-7678
Mobile: (267) 981-1123


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OT: modem dialer/tester

2001-02-15 Thread Nabil Fares

greetings all,

Sorry for the off-top subject!!!

I'm looking for a little utility to dial my RAS lines and check for ring-no
answer line, busy signals and handshake signals.  I've about 25 ras/nas
boxes, I want to have the program dial and log each box.

Any feed back or suggestions would be great.

Thanks,

Nabil

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Which CVOICE book???

2001-02-15 Thread Zabludovsky, Mark A

Hi Group,
Wanted to know which book/s I should read to prep for the CVOICE
specialization exam. I like Lammle's style of writing (understandable). I
don't just want to pass the test cause I think that voice is gonna be huge,
so I also want a book that will teach my what I need to know. Anybody that
has taken the test or read any of these books please help me out. I want to
place my order asap on the book. Thanks,

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNP, CCDA
Saint Gobain WAN Team
Cisco Network Specialist
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Mobile: (267) 981-1123


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RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

2001-02-15 Thread Pierre-Alex

"Why did yours reset to its original value while mine retained its new path
cost?  We're both running 9.00.04 code so I wouldn't suspect a bug to be the
cause of the problem...  One possibility may be that if you set your port
path cost and then immediately reset your switch"

This is precisely the mistake I made. While I figured it out, everything
worked OK.

Thanks again.

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:58 PM
To: Pierre-Alex
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

"Once the root bridge has been selected, all bridges and switches in the
network calculate the shortest path distance between itself and the root
bridge.  Each port sends a configuration BPDU message to determine the cost
between itself and the root bridge.  The port with the lowest cost is
designated as the root port for the bridge. "

On my Catalyst 1924-F-EN, I set the port cost of Ethernet 0/1 to 50 using
the "spantree cost 50" command.  I then typed reload.  Once the switch was
back up, I issued the command "show span".  Results were:

Port Ethernet 0/1 of VLAN1 is Forwarding
   Port path cost 50, Port priority 128

Why did yours reset to its original value while mine retained its new path
cost?  We're both running 9.00.04 code so I wouldn't suspect a bug to be the
cause of the problem...  One possibility may be that if you set your port
path cost and then immediately reset your switch, your changes may not have
been saved in NVRAM.  Verify that you used the appropriate command and that
you waited at least 20 seconds before issuing a "reload" command.  Give it
another try...

"Port ID: Each port on a bridge or switch is assigned a unique 2-byte
identifier.  The Port ID is composed of a one-byte priority value
configurable by an administrator, followed by a 1-byte value assigned by the
device to the port."  Port priority does influence the selection of the
designated or root port when two or more ports on the bridge are connected
the same remote bridge/switch.

So, why won't setting the port priority influence which port becomes
blocked?  Give this a whirl and then let me know what happens--try
equalizing port priorities on 0/26 and 0/27 on the 1912 (restore to default
settings).  Now alter the port priorities on the 2924XL's 0/20 and 0/21
ports.  Does it make a difference?


  -- Leigh Anne





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Pierre-Alex
Sent: February 14, 2001 12:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!


Here is another challenging problem I have. Anyone?

Switch 1912-EN is connected to Switch 2924XL via two trunks (Port A and port
B.)
The spanning tree has disabled port B to prevent a loop.
I am trying to force B to go in fowarding mode and have A be in blocking
mode.
I tried changing the cost of the path, but the swith rectified it to 10. So
I thought:
"well,  I can change the priority of the interfaces and reload the switch
and that should do the trick".
Well it did not (See below). I can only think of two things:

A. I have not understood proprely the use of a port priority and I am
changing the wrong parameter
B. I have changed the right parameter but there is something else that I am
missing in the configuration.

Port FastEthernet 0/26 of VLAN1 is Forwarding
   Port path cost 10, Port priority 100<-- I changed this from 128
to 100
   Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580
   Designated port is 22, path cost 0
   Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1
--More--
Port FastEthernet 0/27 of VLAN1 is Blocking
   Port path cost 10, Port priority 0 <--I
changed this from 128 to 0
   Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580
   Designated port is 23, path cost 0
   Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1
Pierre-Alex


As several people have found out recently, I **love** understanding all the
nuances of why technology works the way it does.  When things go wrong, it's
so much easier to identify a problem when you can compare what SHOULD be
happening to what IS occurring.  Took me a while to pick through everything,
but my spanning tree troubleshooting skill-set increased significantly as a
result of this exercise!  Thanks for the opportunity!


  -- Leigh Anne

-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 14, 2001 10:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
Cc: Dale Cunningham; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE:PROBLEM FIXED: --> DISTURBING: Spanning
Tree Protocol Does not Work.


HI LEIGH ANNE and everyone,

The problem was fixed by a

RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

2001-02-15 Thread Pierre-Alex

There was a typo in my previous message (see below)  "While I figured "
Should be read: "When I figured it ..."

Pierre-Alex

"Why did yours reset to its original value while mine retained its new path
cost?  We're both running 9.00.04 code so I wouldn't suspect a bug to be the
cause of the problem...  One possibility may be that if you set your port
path cost and then immediately reset your switch"

This is precisely the mistake I made. While I figured it out, everything
worked OK.

Thanks again.

Pierre-Alex
-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:58 PM
To: Pierre-Alex
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

"Once the root bridge has been selected, all bridges and switches in the
network calculate the shortest path distance between itself and the root
bridge.  Each port sends a configuration BPDU message to determine the cost
between itself and the root bridge.  The port with the lowest cost is
designated as the root port for the bridge. "

On my Catalyst 1924-F-EN, I set the port cost of Ethernet 0/1 to 50 using
the "spantree cost 50" command.  I then typed reload.  Once the switch was
back up, I issued the command "show span".  Results were:

Port Ethernet 0/1 of VLAN1 is Forwarding
   Port path cost 50, Port priority 128

Why did yours reset to its original value while mine retained its new path
cost?  We're both running 9.00.04 code so I wouldn't suspect a bug to be the
cause of the problem...  One possibility may be that if you set your port
path cost and then immediately reset your switch, your changes may not have
been saved in NVRAM.  Verify that you used the appropriate command and that
you waited at least 20 seconds before issuing a "reload" command.  Give it
another try...

"Port ID: Each port on a bridge or switch is assigned a unique 2-byte
identifier.  The Port ID is composed of a one-byte priority value
configurable by an administrator, followed by a 1-byte value assigned by the
device to the port."  Port priority does influence the selection of the
designated or root port when two or more ports on the bridge are connected
the same remote bridge/switch.

So, why won't setting the port priority influence which port becomes
blocked?  Give this a whirl and then let me know what happens--try
equalizing port priorities on 0/26 and 0/27 on the 1912 (restore to default
settings).  Now alter the port priorities on the 2924XL's 0/20 and 0/21
ports.  Does it make a difference?


  -- Leigh Anne





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Pierre-Alex
Sent: February 14, 2001 12:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!


Here is another challenging problem I have. Anyone?

Switch 1912-EN is connected to Switch 2924XL via two trunks (Port A and port
B.)
The spanning tree has disabled port B to prevent a loop.
I am trying to force B to go in fowarding mode and have A be in blocking
mode.
I tried changing the cost of the path, but the swith rectified it to 10. So
I thought:
"well,  I can change the priority of the interfaces and reload the switch
and that should do the trick".
Well it did not (See below). I can only think of two things:

A. I have not understood proprely the use of a port priority and I am
changing the wrong parameter
B. I have changed the right parameter but there is something else that I am
missing in the configuration.

Port FastEthernet 0/26 of VLAN1 is Forwarding
   Port path cost 10, Port priority 100<-- I changed this from 128
to 100
   Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580
   Designated port is 22, path cost 0
   Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1
--More--
Port FastEthernet 0/27 of VLAN1 is Blocking
   Port path cost 10, Port priority 0 <--I
changed this from 128 to 0
   Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580
   Designated port is 23, path cost 0
   Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1
Pierre-Alex


As several people have found out recently, I **love** understanding all the
nuances of why technology works the way it does.  When things go wrong, it's
so much easier to identify a problem when you can compare what SHOULD be
happening to what IS occurring.  Took me a while to pick through everything,
but my spanning tree troubleshooting skill-set increased significantly as a
result of this exercise!  Thanks for the opportunity!


  -- Leigh Anne

-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 14, 2001 10:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
Cc: Dale Cunningham; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE:PROBLEM FIXED: --

RE: Cisco Space Phone

2001-02-15 Thread Buri, Heather H

Here it is:

- Original Message - 
From: "Will Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To:  
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:15 AM 
Subject: Is this COOL or what? Cisco Space Phones! 


> Enjoy the read!! 
> 
> 
> >>Yesterday, at approximately 4:09 PM Central, the first phone call from 
> space was made. Astronaut Marsha Ivin, using a Cisco IP SoftPhone on the 
> Space Shuttle Atlantis, made the first and second telephone calls EVER 
from 
> space. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>NASA has had CallManager software in a development lab since prior to 
> the Selsius acquisition by Cisco. The Selsius, and now second-generation 
> Cisco phones, have been unusually tolerant to the satellite delay between 
> Mission Control in Houston and the Shuttle. Brett Parrish, lead NASA 
> engineer on this project, holds our CallManager software in very high 
> regard, especially since finding it works over satellite delay without 
> modification between our hardware-based phones (tested to up to 1.2 
seconds 
> of delay). Brett has stated that it is very unusual for an application to 
> work out of the box with this type of delay. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>Since certification for flight is an extremely long and, at times, 
> extremely political process, NASA decided to use SoftPhone for the first 
> trial. The main reason for this is that the laptop PCs used by NASA 
> astronauts have already been certified, and getting a software process in 
> flight is much easier than launching hardware. Extensive testing was 
> performed at NASA using custom-built equipment to replicate the delays and

> LOS (Loss Of Signal) conditions common with the Space Shuttle. Minor 
> modifications were made to CallManager (inclusion of a service parameter) 
> and to SoftPhone (change in the order of events for call acceptance) by 
> Cisco development to address TAPI issues with delay, and SoftPhone was 
> approved for a trial flight. Unfortunately, this was not an official goal 
> of the Space Shuttle Atlantis, which simply meant testing was not 
> scheduled, and not guaranteed. Despite the lack of official stature for 
> this test, optimism that SoftPhone would be tested was very high as the 
> Astronauts had seen the application and were demanding that it fly with 
the 
> Shuttle. Imagine being out in space with no way to call home! Imagine 
being 
> IN space and being able to make a normal phone call anywhere! Despite all 
> the technological advances, separation is very apparent when out in space.

> Never has an Astronaut been able to pick up a phone and place a call. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>At approximately 4:00PM Central the opportunity to make a call using 
the 
> Cisco IP SoftPhone became available. Marsha Ivin, with a brief break in 
> official tasks, asked Space Command if there was time to try the IP 
> SoftPhone. The Flight Commander gave the go-ahead and the test was on!. 
> Marsha booted up the SoftPhone and at approximately 4:09PM made a call to 
> the Flight Director. The call went from her SoftPhone software through a 
> VG-200 gateway, over an FXO port, through a PBX to the phone on the Flight

> Director s desk. They held a long and animated conversation (though what 
> was actually discussed is unknown) and at the end Marsha was granted 
> permission to call one of the 7960 phones in the POC (Payload Operations 
> Center). She made the call and it was answered by Brett Parrish. Marsha 
> asked So how do you like getting the second ever call from space? . After 
> speaking with Brett, Steve Schadelbauer of NASA was put on the line and he

> spoke with Marsha. The conversations with Marsha lasted for several 
> minutes. Both Brett and Steve commented at how clear the conversation was 
> much better than the audio quality found on the radio conversations with 
> the Shuttle. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>It was amazing at how much of a non-event this was. History in the 
> making but no scrambling, no trouble-shooting. IT JUST WORKS !!! Most of 
> the credit goes to Brett and Steve for their tireless testing and 
> replication of the Shuttle s environment. On the other hand, this is truly

> an illustration of how Cisco s IP Telephony makes geographic location 
> irrelevant to audio communications. Anywhere, and that means ANYWHERE, you

> have IP connectivity you have a COMMUNICATIONS network, which includes 
> telephony. The network works, no excuses! 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>This is a tribute to many things. Brett and Steve put our software and 
> hardware through the ringer at NASA subjecting it to delay, loss of 
signal, 
> and bit error rates well above what would be found even between Mission 
> Control and the Shuttle. As a result, this historic moment was a non 
event. 
> Also as a result, future applications are so real that only official 
> testing and approval stand in the way. We have successfully tested 7960 
> phones in the Space Station and in the Shuttle and they work better than 
> the SoftPhone. It will be a while before we see them as mission

Re: ccnp routing frames

2001-02-15 Thread Mark Stricker

I didn't get any questions about the fields in the headers at all.  I took
it last week (and passed).


"Robert Nickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
C05E7DA1218ED411BF8A00105AC95A8E01683F26@SV-CNTRMAIL">news:C05E7DA1218ED411BF8A00105AC95A8E01683F26@SV-CNTRMAIL...
> On the CCNP routing exam is there any questions on (i.e do i have to
> memorise)
> frame for frame the format of hello packets,DD packets,LSA packet
> frames...etc
> like ..version,type,packet length,route ID,Area ID,Checksum,Au
> type,Authentication etc etc
> or is there certain fields i should learn
>
> Any help would be useful
> -Original Message-
> From: Cisco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: NAT/PAT port pass-through
>
>
> Hi all,
> Im just experimenting with NAT/PAT and want to try to tunnel back to an
> internal NT server to establish a VPN with it.  Say the internal address
is
> 10.1.1.100 I want to pass all traffic from the external IP w.x.y.z(i s0)
to
> internal 10.1.1.100(int e0) for the following ports
>
> Protocol ID TCP, Port 1723
> Protocol ID 47, port all
>
> Can anyone help out with some config pointers?
>
> I've got NAT/PAT set up and working.
>
> I would like to use PPTP to the router and let the router establish the
VPN
> but I don't think this router will support it.  It is running
> 11.1(c1600-y-l.113-2)
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Craig Lindstrom
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RE:

2001-02-15 Thread martijn michiel

Sathesh, in my bcran book there is a full chapter of 700. Check C's website 
though.

martijn

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guyz:
any comprehensive resource fo BCRAN ?

any idea if there are questions on cisco 700 ?

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RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

2001-02-15 Thread Pierre-Alex

Dear Anne,

I can answer this question. :)

Case Scenario: (You may want to draw as you go along...)

Swith A is the root bridge, and Switch B is the non-root bridge
Switch A is connected to Switch B via to links of equal cost.
We will call the ports on Switch A: W and X, and the ports on Switch B:Y and
Z
W is connected to Y and X is connected to Z
Changing the priority of port Y or Z will have NO effect on the spanning
tree.
However changing the the priority of W or X will cause the following:
1) If W is greater than X, then Z will be blocked
2) If X is greater than W, then Y will be blocked

I tried many other case scenarios yesterday evening. I can summurize them as
follows:

1) If the cost of link WY and the cost of link XZ are not equal, then cost
IS the criteria for deciding which port will be blocked
and no change of priority (on W, X , Y ,Z) is going to change the spanning
tree
2) If the cost of link WY and the cost of link XZ are equal, then the
priorities set by ports X and W of the root bridge will be the determining
factors.
3) If the priority of link WY and the priority of link XZ are the same, the
non root bridge will choose as the root port, the sending port that had the
lowest mac address (If we assume that W has a lower mac address than  X,
then port Y will be the root port and port Z will be blocked)

Did that fulfill some of your thurst for knowledge?  :)

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Pierre-Alex
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

By the way... if you've got a few moments, would you like to try something
for me?  At the bottom of my email, I wanted to know why setting the port
priority didn't influence which port becomes blocked.  If the path costs of
0/26 and 0/27 were identical, which port priority values need to be altered
to influence spanning tree path selection?  Is it port priority on the 1912
or the 2924XL?


  -- Leigh Anne

-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 15, 2001 9:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!


"Why did yours reset to its original value while mine retained its new path
cost?  We're both running 9.00.04 code so I wouldn't suspect a bug to be the
cause of the problem...  One possibility may be that if you set your port
path cost and then immediately reset your switch"

This is precisely the mistake I made. While I figured it out, everything
worked OK.

Thanks again.

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:58 PM
To: Pierre-Alex
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

"Once the root bridge has been selected, all bridges and switches in the
network calculate the shortest path distance between itself and the root
bridge.  Each port sends a configuration BPDU message to determine the cost
between itself and the root bridge.  The port with the lowest cost is
designated as the root port for the bridge. "

On my Catalyst 1924-F-EN, I set the port cost of Ethernet 0/1 to 50 using
the "spantree cost 50" command.  I then typed reload.  Once the switch was
back up, I issued the command "show span".  Results were:

Port Ethernet 0/1 of VLAN1 is Forwarding
   Port path cost 50, Port priority 128

Why did yours reset to its original value while mine retained its new path
cost?  We're both running 9.00.04 code so I wouldn't suspect a bug to be the
cause of the problem...  One possibility may be that if you set your port
path cost and then immediately reset your switch, your changes may not have
been saved in NVRAM.  Verify that you used the appropriate command and that
you waited at least 20 seconds before issuing a "reload" command.  Give it
another try...

"Port ID: Each port on a bridge or switch is assigned a unique 2-byte
identifier.  The Port ID is composed of a one-byte priority value
configurable by an administrator, followed by a 1-byte value assigned by the
device to the port."  Port priority does influence the selection of the
designated or root port when two or more ports on the bridge are connected
the same remote bridge/switch.

So, why won't setting the port priority influence which port becomes
blocked?  Give this a whirl and then let me know what happens--try
equalizing port priorities on 0/26 and 0/27 on the 1912 (restore to default
settings).  Now alter the port priorities on the 2924XL's 0/20 and 0/21
ports.  Does it make a difference?


  -- Leigh Anne





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Pierre-Alex
Sent: February 14, 2001 12:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!


Here is another challenging problem I have. 

Re: alitlle confused.

2001-02-15 Thread Raj Singh

Need a little more detail ... and yes it could be an access list
configuration issue.

Can you actually ping from a node in network a the Unix Box in network B
that you are attempting to telnet to ?

Can you actually ping from the Unix Box in B to the node in Network A ?

Can you telnet to the UNIX box in Network B from a host in Network B ?

Or of course you can check the access-list settings on the router(s).

- raj

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> IF THERE ARE 2 DIFFERENT NETWORKS A AND B , AND WE COULD PING FROM NETWORK
A
> TO B , BUT NOT TELNET TO A CERTAIN UNIX BOX ON NETWORK B, IS THIS AN
> ACCESS-LIST ISSUE OR IS IT AT THE UNIX BOX THAT IS NOT PERMITTING TELNET .
>
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alitlle confused.

2001-02-15 Thread Moahzam Durrani

IF THERE ARE 2 DIFFERENT NETWORKS A AND B , AND WE COULD PING FROM NETWORK A
TO B , BUT NOT TELNET TO A CERTAIN UNIX BOX ON NETWORK B, IS THIS AN
ACCESS-LIST ISSUE OR IS IT AT THE UNIX BOX THAT IS NOT PERMITTING TELNET . 

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RE: alitlle confused.

2001-02-15 Thread Denis A. Baldwin

It could be either.  Can you telnet to the box in network B from network B?

Denis


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IF THERE ARE 2 DIFFERENT NETWORKS A AND B , AND WE COULD PING FROM NETWORK A
TO B , BUT NOT TELNET TO A CERTAIN UNIX BOX ON NETWORK B, IS THIS AN
ACCESS-LIST ISSUE OR IS IT AT THE UNIX BOX THAT IS NOT PERMITTING TELNET .

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Re: alitlle confused.

2001-02-15 Thread Weiping Mandrawa

It depends
Check if there is access-list on router that
does not permit telnet to go through
or Check the Unix box , and make sure it has
telnetd

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> ACCESS-LIST ISSUE OR IS IT AT THE UNIX BOX THAT IS
> NOT PERMITTING TELNET . 
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Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Lauren Child

Heehee, well this gave me a laugh and I thought you guys might like it.

Ive removed the name in case the person who needs a clue is around.

xx wrote:
> 
> what ro u mean
> 
> --- Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > try using the internet.  Youll be expected to.
> >
> > xx wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Sir
> > > I have mcse and ccna
> > > now i am doing ccnp
> > > ihope i will complete this within this month
> > > i am from india and want to move to uk
> > > can u tell me that i can find the job in uk eaisly
> > or
> > > not.
> > > pls also let me that how much salary i can earn on
> > the
> > > bases of ccnp.
> > > thanks.
> > >

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RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

2001-02-15 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Okay Pierre-Alex, here's my diagram:

W A X  (root bridge) - 2924XL (0/20 and 0/21)
|   |
|   |
Y B Z  (non-root bridge) - 1912 (0/26 and 0/27)

You wrote:  Changing the priority of port Y or Z (ports on the 1912) will
have NO effect on the spanning tree.

That's what I suspected when you first presented your problem when
establishing a lower port priority on port Z (0/27) didn't result in 0/27
switching to forwarding mode with Y (0/26) being blocked upon reload of the
switch.

Radia's "Interconnections, Second Edition" led me to believe that you would
have to lower the port priority on the 2924XL (0/21) rather than the 1912
but I tend to find sometimes her writing style difficult to understand.
That's why I asked you to reset the port priorities on the 1912 and instead
alter the port priorities on the 2924XL's 0/20 and 0/21 ports.  Yes I know
that you really only had to alter port priority on the port you wanted to be
forwarding rather than blocking... but I thought I'd keep with your previous
1912 configuration methodology...

Glad to know everything's now working!


  -- Leigh Anne

-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 15, 2001 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!


Dear Anne,

I can answer this question. :)

Case Scenario: (You may want to draw as you go along...)

Swith A is the root bridge, and Switch B is the non-root bridge
Switch A is connected to Switch B via to links of equal cost.
We will call the ports on Switch A: W and X, and the ports on Switch B:Y and
Z

W is connected to Y and X is connected to Z

Changing the priority of port Y or Z will have NO effect on the spanning
tree.

However changing the the priority of W or X will cause the following:
1) If W is greater than X, then Z will be blocked
2) If X is greater than W, then Y will be blocked

I tried many other case scenarios yesterday evening. I can summurize them as
follows:

1) If the cost of link WY and the cost of link XZ are not equal, then cost
IS the criteria for deciding which port will be blocked
and no change of priority (on W, X , Y ,Z) is going to change the spanning
tree
2) If the cost of link WY and the cost of link XZ are equal, then the
priorities set by ports X and W of the root bridge will be the determining
factors.
3) If the priority of link WY and the priority of link XZ are the same, the
non root bridge will choose as the root port, the sending port that had the
lowest mac address (If we assume that W has a lower mac address than  X,
then port Y will be the root port and port Z will be blocked)

Did that fulfill some of your thurst for knowledge?  :)

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Pierre-Alex
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

By the way... if you've got a few moments, would you like to try something
for me?  At the bottom of my email, I wanted to know why setting the port
priority didn't influence which port becomes blocked.  If the path costs of
0/26 and 0/27 were identical, which port priority values need to be altered
to influence spanning tree path selection?  Is it port priority on the 1912
or the 2924XL?


  -- Leigh Anne

-Original Message-
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Sent: February 15, 2001 9:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!


"Why did yours reset to its original value while mine retained its new path
cost?  We're both running 9.00.04 code so I wouldn't suspect a bug to be the
cause of the problem...  One possibility may be that if you set your port
path cost and then immediately reset your switch"

This is precisely the mistake I made. While I figured it out, everything
worked OK.

Thanks again.

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:58 PM
To: Pierre-Alex
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

"Once the root bridge has been selected, all bridges and switches in the
network calculate the shortest path distance between itself and the root
bridge.  Each port sends a configuration BPDU message to determine the cost
between itself and the root bridge.  The port with the lowest cost is
designated as the root port for the bridge. "

On my Catalyst 1924-F-EN, I set the port cost of Ethernet 0/1 to 50 using
the "spantree cost 50" command.  I then typed reload.  Once the switch was
back up, I issued the command "show span".  Results were:

Port Ethernet 0/1 of VLAN1 is Forwarding
   Port path cost 50, Port priority 128

Why did yours reset to its original value while mine retained its new path
cost?  We're both running 9.00.04 code so I wouldn't suspect

Which Job Should I Take?

2001-02-15 Thread Traceroute

I was wondering if you all could share your opinions with me. I have a =
choice of two jobs to take listed below. Both are an increase in pay of =
about 9k.

1. My current Job: They are going to title me "network engineer" working =
4 10 hour days 1 pm to midnight ( I love the hours) , but we work with =
cabletron, checkpoint and cisco. We have a campus and WAN support =
responsibility. Sometimes it's a bit slow when nothing is happening and =
I may get some "Win NT" duties, yuck I would have sunday, monday and =
tuesdays off and could possibly get some good side gigs. Last but not =
least, it's business casual.

2. New Job Offer: I will be titled a "network administrator" working 8 =
to 5 monday through friday ( I hate waking up early ), but getting =
exposure to ATM, Voice over IP and voice over ATM. Lots of MC 3810s =
about 50 or so with conections all over the US. One thing is for sure is =
there are NT admins to handle the "Win NT" issues, I really want to =
graduate from the NT support world for good. This company is also =
pre-ipo and although they are a huge company, this is a new "division" =
and pre-ipo makes me nervous because I have a family to support. One =
cool thing is that they are a cisco gold partner. One bad thing is that =
they are business dress, yes the whole tie thing. The pre-ipo thing =
makes me nervous because they say "yea when we go public, lots of the =
big wigs will be rich"... Does this mean new management takeovers =
etc...??


Anyway, thanks for any input...

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RE: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Mark Krysinski

What is wrong with someone asking a question of any kind?  Do you spite
someone for trying to improve themselves or give them encouragement to
continue?

Everyone needs a clue at some point in time.  Hope to see your resume some
time!

Mark Krysinski
CTO

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Lauren Child
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Thought youd enjoy this


Heehee, well this gave me a laugh and I thought you guys might like it.

Ive removed the name in case the person who needs a clue is around.

xx wrote:
>
> what ro u mean
>
> --- Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > try using the internet.  Youll be expected to.
> >
> > xx wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Sir
> > > I have mcse and ccna
> > > now i am doing ccnp
> > > ihope i will complete this within this month
> > > i am from india and want to move to uk
> > > can u tell me that i can find the job in uk eaisly
> > or
> > > not.
> > > pls also let me that how much salary i can earn on
> > the
> > > bases of ccnp.
> > > thanks.
> > >

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RE: NAT/PAT port pass-through

2001-02-15 Thread VanHaaren, Nicole

I used PPTP for a VPN I just set up, but I was using a PIX, not a router.
You'll probably need to get a higher level of IOS, one with encryption,
which will allow you to do the vpdn commands for PPTP.

I would suggest going to the below link to get an intro to the vpdn commands
for PPTP setup:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/pix_v53/config/adv
anced.htm#xtocid579420

I found it relatively easy to set up, considering this was my first time
configuring a VPN.  Also, I did get this to work with NAT, but according to
CCO, it will not work with PAT.
Good luck.



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Sent:   Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:NAT/PAT port pass-through

Hi all,
Im just experimenting with NAT/PAT and want to try to tunnel back to an
internal NT server to establish a VPN with it.  Say the internal address is
10.1.1.100 I want to pass all traffic from the external IP w.x.y.z(i s0) to
internal 10.1.1.100(int e0) for the following ports

Protocol ID TCP, Port 1723
Protocol ID 47, port all

Can anyone help out with some config pointers?

I've got NAT/PAT set up and working.

I would like to use PPTP to the router and let the router establish the VPN
but I don't think this router will support it.  It is running
11.1(c1600-y-l.113-2)

Any thoughts?

Craig Lindstrom
eSage
http://www.eSage.com
(801) 796-9595

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Re: DB60 to RJ45 adapters?

2001-02-15 Thread Dan

For $63.95 I'd skip the adapters and get the real deal.

Dan Pontrelli
Customer Installation Engineer - Verio NYC
CCNP, MCSE, CNA

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Re: DB60 to RJ45 adapters?

2001-02-15 Thread justhangin

You probably didn't finish reading the applications.  Your are not 
limited to the distance of the cable you purchase.  The real bagain 
comes in for sdlc environments.  You replace the Cisco cable, 25 lead 
rs-232 cable and possibly any IBM cabling for controllers if required 
for the price of two adapters and a CAT 5 run.  

> For $63.95 I'd skip the adapters and get the real deal.
> 
> Dan Pontrelli
> Customer Installation Engineer - Verio NYC
> CCNP, MCSE, CNA
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Re: Which Job Should I Take?

2001-02-15 Thread Dan West

I would also ask if either of these requires you to be
"on call" 24/7. That would be a major factor for me.

--- Traceroute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wondering if you all could share your opinions
> with me. I have a =
> choice of two jobs to take listed below. Both are an
> increase in pay of =
> about 9k.
> 
> 1. My current Job: They are going to title me
> "network engineer" working =
> 4 10 hour days 1 pm to midnight ( I love the hours)
> , but we work with =
> cabletron, checkpoint and cisco. We have a campus
> and WAN support =
> responsibility. Sometimes it's a bit slow when
> nothing is happening and =
> I may get some "Win NT" duties, yuck I would
> have sunday, monday and =
> tuesdays off and could possibly get some good side
> gigs. Last but not =
> least, it's business casual.
> 
> 2. New Job Offer: I will be titled a "network
> administrator" working 8 =
> to 5 monday through friday ( I hate waking up early
> ), but getting =
> exposure to ATM, Voice over IP and voice over ATM.
> Lots of MC 3810s =
> about 50 or so with conections all over the US. One
> thing is for sure is =
> there are NT admins to handle the "Win NT" issues, I
> really want to =
> graduate from the NT support world for good. This
> company is also =
> pre-ipo and although they are a huge company, this
> is a new "division" =
> and pre-ipo makes me nervous because I have a family
> to support. One =
> cool thing is that they are a cisco gold partner.
> One bad thing is that =
> they are business dress, yes the whole tie thing.
> The pre-ipo thing =
> makes me nervous because they say "yea when we go
> public, lots of the =
> big wigs will be rich"... Does this mean new
> management takeovers =
> etc...??
> 
> 
> Anyway, thanks for any input...
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Fw: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)

2001-02-15 Thread mtieast




Sorry, I must rant.

The Dr./lawyer analogy does not fly. If you could pay 100 bucks and be an
M.D. or $200.00 to pass the bar without any real merit your damn right
Doctors and Lawyers would be
up in arms about it., they would be discussing and fighting all the way. Not
to mention the patients and clients. I do agree however even in a situation
such as this that if your good your good and people will see that and you
will be paid and treated appropriatly.

I also love it when one or 2 people decide what should or shouldn't be on a
list
they simply belong to with thousands of others who may be interested in
discussing a topic related to Cisco Certification. A very valid concern in
my mind.

 Instead of simply moving on you contribute to this supposed waste of
bandwidth and time, and then on top of that to try and dictate what does or
doesn't belong on the list.

If this topic was not for you why not just pass it by or delete instead of
participating in it only to tell all the others who have an interest that it
does or does not belong
on a list that is not yours.

You can tell by the subject what it is about. move on.

This is not specific to this thread, I have seen it many times. Sometimes
things clearly are not on topic but it is still discussed without comment.
This is very close to topic and although I agree that if your good your good
and you don't have to worry many people would like to discuss it. Especially
if Cisco really does open the flood gates.







>-Original Message-
>From: Rene Mendoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:04 PM
>Subject: Re: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>
>
>>Kenneth has read my mind exactly.  This whole thread or future similar
>types of
>>threads do not belong here.  We are wasting bandwidth and time replying to
>these
>>postings.  Let's just keep concentrating on our studies please!
>>
>>
>>Kenneth Sacca wrote:
>>
>>> Jeez this topic is boring and so out of touch with
>>> reality.  I bet most of the complainers here are
>>> former MCSE, CNE, ASE, A+ and all of those other
>>> certification holders.
>>>
>>> Your career isn't based on a certification.  You
>>> will never have a little fraternity of 5000 CCIEs
>>> worldwide, where no one else can join the club.
>>> Do you think lawyers or doctors write about this
>>> crap all the time when a new class of people pass
>>> the bar and medical board exams?  Do CPAs complain
>>> that the passing rate was 60% for their exam?  Do
>>> CEOs complain about each class that graduates from
>>> Harvard Business school?
>>>
>>> What you do on the job matters.  If you are good,
>>> then the money will come.  If you suck, no matter
>>> what your cert, you will be paid what you are worth.
>>> Excel individually as a person, and stop worrying
>>> about this crap.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> > X-Originating-IP: [213.120.56.45]
>>> > From: "Mark Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>>> > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:07:40
>>> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2001 17:07:40.0605 (UTC)
>>> FILETIME=[CDCA26D0:01C09771]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > IF this is true, I'll be really pd off with Cisco - all that hard
>work,
>>> > and now the cert is going down the toilet.
>>> >
>>> > Mark
>>> > CCIE#6280
>>> >
>>> > >From: "Yurchenko, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > >Reply-To: "Yurchenko, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > >To: "'Jason T. Rohm'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"CCIELIST
(E-mail)"
>>> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > >Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>>> > >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:27:33 -0500
>>> > >
>>> > >Well, recently I have seen a post that all 5 individuals who
attempted
>the
>>> > >test passed it successfully, and it looks like the rate at which the
>new
>>> > >CCIEs are being produced - close to 200 a month - would lead me to
>believe
>>> > >that we could possibly hit 1 by the end of the year.
>>> > >
>>> > >Michael Yurchenko
>>> > >CCIE# 6695, CCDP, CCNP ATM Specialist, MCSE
>>> > >Customer Support Engineer - 2
>>> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > >610-407-2154
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >-Original Message-
>>> > >From: Jason T. Rohm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> > >Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:16 AM
>>> > >To: CCIELIST (E-mail)
>>> > >Subject: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >I just got my CCIE a few days ago and was disapointed at how easy the
>test
>>> > >was (by comparision to my other attempts).
>>> > >
>>> > >The raw number of new CCIE in the last few weeks seems to confirm
that
>the
>>> > >new tests are infact easier than the old ones.
>>> > >
>>> > >While I am quite happy to have passed, I am also quite concerned that
>the
>>> > >number of CCIEs is going to double this year with the newly watered
>down
>>> > >tests and bigger labs.
>>> > >
>>> > >Does anyone else have a comment on this?
>>> > >
>>> > >Thank you,
>>> > >
>>> > > 

RE: Which Job Should I Take?

2001-02-15 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I know what I would do, but that should not influate your decision. We all
have different goals, and if you have a family to support, you should talk
with them first before you make your choice. With a wife and kids there's
big difference from working 9-5 to 1-midnight.

You'll get used to the business dress very quickly, so don't let that scare
you too much.

A title is "just" a title, but maybe they would offer you a better one at
your current job if you deside to go with the new one.

I have no idea what pre-ipo means, so I can't guide you in that matter.

Hth,

Ole


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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Which Job Should I Take?


I was wondering if you all could share your opinions with me. I have a =
choice of two jobs to take listed below. Both are an increase in pay of =
about 9k.

1. My current Job: They are going to title me "network engineer" working =
4 10 hour days 1 pm to midnight ( I love the hours) , but we work with =
cabletron, checkpoint and cisco. We have a campus and WAN support =
responsibility. Sometimes it's a bit slow when nothing is happening and =
I may get some "Win NT" duties, yuck I would have sunday, monday and =
tuesdays off and could possibly get some good side gigs. Last but not =
least, it's business casual.

2. New Job Offer: I will be titled a "network administrator" working 8 =
to 5 monday through friday ( I hate waking up early ), but getting =
exposure to ATM, Voice over IP and voice over ATM. Lots of MC 3810s =
about 50 or so with conections all over the US. One thing is for sure is =
there are NT admins to handle the "Win NT" issues, I really want to =
graduate from the NT support world for good. This company is also =
pre-ipo and although they are a huge company, this is a new "division" =
and pre-ipo makes me nervous because I have a family to support. One =
cool thing is that they are a cisco gold partner. One bad thing is that =
they are business dress, yes the whole tie thing. The pre-ipo thing =
makes me nervous because they say "yea when we go public, lots of the =
big wigs will be rich"... Does this mean new management takeovers =
etc...??


Anyway, thanks for any input...

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RE: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Chris Sees

I think you made it clear on "who needs a clue"





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Lauren Child
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Thought youd enjoy this


Heehee, well this gave me a laugh and I thought you guys might like it.

Ive removed the name in case the person who needs a clue is around.

xx wrote:
>
> what ro u mean
>
> --- Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > try using the internet.  Youll be expected to.
> >
> > xx wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Sir
> > > I have mcse and ccna
> > > now i am doing ccnp
> > > ihope i will complete this within this month
> > > i am from india and want to move to uk
> > > can u tell me that i can find the job in uk eaisly
> > or
> > > not.
> > > pls also let me that how much salary i can earn on
> > the

 

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Re: alternative to Cisco routers

2001-02-15 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Depends what you mean by "route."  Linux, or other flavors of UNIX, 
work reasonably well in RsD route servers with huge routing tables, 
but limited numbers of peering interfaces and no forwarding 
requirements.

In a small organization, these do not necessarily impose practical 
limits. The major limit there is the time and skill needed for 
support. Let's put it this way -- I am quite capable of designing 
routers. I use commercial routers in my home office simply because I 
have finite time, and I'd rather use my time for generating revenue 
than doing administration.  I do administer my UNIX boxes, because I 
use them for development and it's productive for me to customize 
them.  My environment includes Mac, Wintel, and Sun, because either 
someone supplies a particular platform and requires me to use it for 
their work, or that I made a certain decision in the past (with 
personal dollars) and found no compelling reason to discard a 
particular architecture.

Conventional UNIX flavors are interrupt-driven. In general, real-time 
operating systems are run-to-completion, because at a certain 
real-time load (seen with forwarding, process control, etc.) the OS 
cost of servicing interrupts is too high.  Yes, JunOS is a UNIX 
derivative, but with a radically rewritten kernel. Without any inside 
knowledge, I would suspect that an open implementation that resembles 
JunOS would be (at the lower levels) a pthreads interface to a Mach 
kernel.

Again for large organizations, forwarding does lend itself to special 
hardware, or at least independent processors.  There's no reason that 
the route processing for these couldn't live on UNIX/Linux.

>Why would you not trust a Linux box to route? What experience or
>documentation do you have that would lead you to believe that a properly
>configured Linux box could not or would not do the job. There are a lot of
>companies using Linux these days. One of largest distributed processing
>systems is based on large linux clusters, most of Mariott's reservation
>system is based on it. Lot's of ISP's use it as their core e-mail, and web
>systems, and I have seen some departmental use of Linux or Windows NT
>machines being used as routers.
>
>A cisco router is not that much different in architecture. At the highest
>level, It is a processor that runs a unix kernel based OS with some NIC or
>serial interfaces and an application designed specifically for routing. The
>real difference is in the software that runs on the router. There is no
>special ASIC's or processors  on the router. IT is a computer (less intel
>pentium processor except in the PIX) w/o the added multimedia and I/O
>hardware, driven by a unix kernel running software , very similiar to any
>other computer. The real difference is in the application, or software it
>runs, not it's hardware architecure.
>
>My understanding is that some of the processors found in the router are the
>same that can be found in certain Apple or Macintosh PC's and other
>non-windows based cpu's.
>
>
>This is my humble opinion based on my limited knowledge of the router
>architecture. However I agree that it would not be appropriate to place a
>linux box at the core of your network there are certainly times or
>applications and solutions where it would be fine. It is not designed
>specifically for routing, but it will certainly do the job if simple routing
>is all that is needed.
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: William E. Gragido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 'anthony kim' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:47 PM
>Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers
>
>
>>Are you serious? You would use a Linux box in place of a router Are you
>>mad man?  I mean, I am as much a fan of Linux as the next geek, however I
>>would not entrust routing/switching duties to it.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>>anthony kim
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:24 PM
>  >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: alternative to Cisco routers
>>
>>
>>This is all well and good for the big time players, ISPs, big corps
>>yadda yadda yadda, and companies with cash to burn like so much old toilet
>>paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always can
>>accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and
>>cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support.
>>
>>So my obligatory cisco alternative:
>>www.zebra.org
>>
>>On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:00:36PM -0600, William E. Gragido wrote:
>>>There ServerIronXL Layer 4-7 switches are pretty cool boxes as well.
>>>Foundry is also pretty nice in that their command line interface is
>awfully
>>>reminiscent of Cisco's.  The transition from one to the other should not
>be
>>>too difficult.
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Christopher Kolp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:41 PM
>>>To: 'Brant Stevens'; 'William E. Gr

Re: Which Job Should I Take?

2001-02-15 Thread RG

This is all going to come down to your personal preference. I would gather
from your comments that you are leaning towards the first one. It sounds
like the route I would go even though I would hate the shift it's still
better than putting on a tie, but you stated you liked that shift so that
would not be a problem for you.
- Original Message -
From: "Traceroute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:52 PM
Subject: Which Job Should I Take?


> I was wondering if you all could share your opinions with me. I have a =
> choice of two jobs to take listed below. Both are an increase in pay of =
> about 9k.
>
> 1. My current Job: They are going to title me "network engineer" working =
> 4 10 hour days 1 pm to midnight ( I love the hours) , but we work with =
> cabletron, checkpoint and cisco. We have a campus and WAN support =
> responsibility. Sometimes it's a bit slow when nothing is happening and =
> I may get some "Win NT" duties, yuck I would have sunday, monday and =
> tuesdays off and could possibly get some good side gigs. Last but not =
> least, it's business casual.
>
> 2. New Job Offer: I will be titled a "network administrator" working 8 =
> to 5 monday through friday ( I hate waking up early ), but getting =
> exposure to ATM, Voice over IP and voice over ATM. Lots of MC 3810s =
> about 50 or so with conections all over the US. One thing is for sure is =
> there are NT admins to handle the "Win NT" issues, I really want to =
> graduate from the NT support world for good. This company is also =
> pre-ipo and although they are a huge company, this is a new "division" =
> and pre-ipo makes me nervous because I have a family to support. One =
> cool thing is that they are a cisco gold partner. One bad thing is that =
> they are business dress, yes the whole tie thing. The pre-ipo thing =
> makes me nervous because they say "yea when we go public, lots of the =
> big wigs will be rich"... Does this mean new management takeovers =
> etc...??
>
>
> Anyway, thanks for any input...
>
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Re: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Lurker

Perhaps you should make fun of me too.  I think it's a reasonable question
and I fail to see the humor.



Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Heehee, well this gave me a laugh and I thought you guys might like it.
>
> Ive removed the name in case the person who needs a clue is around.
>
> xx wrote:
> >
> > what ro u mean
> >
> > --- Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > try using the internet.  Youll be expected to.
> > >
> > > xx wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Sir
> > > > I have mcse and ccna
> > > > now i am doing ccnp
> > > > ihope i will complete this within this month
> > > > i am from india and want to move to uk
> > > > can u tell me that i can find the job in uk eaisly
> > > or
> > > > not.
> > > > pls also let me that how much salary i can earn on
> > > the
> > > > bases of ccnp.
> > > > thanks.
> > > >
>
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affordable cisco switch

2001-02-15 Thread Gary Witherspoon

hello,

Is anybody in the market to sell an affordable cisco
switch.  The only requirements are that it's in good
working condition & the ports must be
autosensing-capable.  24 ports would be preferrable. 
Please respond if you are willing to sell a switch.

Thanks,

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no domain controller available

2001-02-15 Thread Jim Bond

Hello,

I have users at different buildings (on different
subnets), when they move their laptop to another
building, they have to do ip release/renew, otherwise,
they won't get new ip address. Swithes are
5000/5500/6500. Port fast is already enabled. Anything
needs to be done on PCs?

Thanks in advance.


Jim

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Re: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Lauren Child



"Roberts, Timothy" wrote:
> 
> Obviously english is not this persons first language.  Why should this
> person be made fun of because he has not fully mastered it yet?
> 

He shouldnt.  He should be made fun of for having an MCSE and CCNA, and
working for CCNP, and not mastering the search engine.

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Re: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)

2001-02-15 Thread mtieast

I do apologize to Rene as it would appear this rant is a direct result of
his/her post. And the topic of the Group is Lab study so he/she is right.
But there has to be some grey area right? I mean there are many off topic
posts that generate some very good discussions. Although this one is off
topic I think it has some real merit and should be watched closely.

I was asked if I would stop persuing the CCIE if there was to many. No, but
I would not persue it if it didn't mean much and it was terribly easy to
pass. What would be the point. I am already very good at what I do so why
persue it now? Because it is percieved as meaning you are on of the best.
You are top-notch and know what you are talking about. It is the Ph.D of
network certs.
Of course that does not always apply to every individual, but that is how
the CCIE is percieved.

If it wasn't seen that way why would anyone want it?



-Original Message-
From: mtieast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:57 PM
Subject: Fw: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)


>
>
>
>Sorry, I must rant.
>
>The Dr./lawyer analogy does not fly. If you could pay 100 bucks and be an
>M.D. or $200.00 to pass the bar without any real merit your damn right
>Doctors and Lawyers would be
>up in arms about it., they would be discussing and fighting all the way.
Not
>to mention the patients and clients. I do agree however even in a situation
>such as this that if your good your good and people will see that and you
>will be paid and treated appropriatly.
>
>I also love it when one or 2 people decide what should or shouldn't be on a
>list
>they simply belong to with thousands of others who may be interested in
>discussing a topic related to Cisco Certification. A very valid concern in
>my mind.
>
> Instead of simply moving on you contribute to this supposed waste of
>bandwidth and time, and then on top of that to try and dictate what does or
>doesn't belong on the list.
>
>If this topic was not for you why not just pass it by or delete instead of
>participating in it only to tell all the others who have an interest that
it
>does or does not belong
>on a list that is not yours.
>
>You can tell by the subject what it is about. move on.
>
>This is not specific to this thread, I have seen it many times. Sometimes
>things clearly are not on topic but it is still discussed without comment.
>This is very close to topic and although I agree that if your good your
good
>and you don't have to worry many people would like to discuss it.
Especially
>if Cisco really does open the flood gates.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Rene Mendoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:04 PM
>>Subject: Re: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>>
>>
>>>Kenneth has read my mind exactly.  This whole thread or future similar
>>types of
>>>threads do not belong here.  We are wasting bandwidth and time replying
to
>>these
>>>postings.  Let's just keep concentrating on our studies please!
>>>
>>>
>>>Kenneth Sacca wrote:
>>>
 Jeez this topic is boring and so out of touch with
 reality.  I bet most of the complainers here are
 former MCSE, CNE, ASE, A+ and all of those other
 certification holders.

 Your career isn't based on a certification.  You
 will never have a little fraternity of 5000 CCIEs
 worldwide, where no one else can join the club.
 Do you think lawyers or doctors write about this
 crap all the time when a new class of people pass
 the bar and medical board exams?  Do CPAs complain
 that the passing rate was 60% for their exam?  Do
 CEOs complain about each class that graduates from
 Harvard Business school?

 What you do on the job matters.  If you are good,
 then the money will come.  If you suck, no matter
 what your cert, you will be paid what you are worth.
 Excel individually as a person, and stop worrying
 about this crap.

 Regards


 > X-Originating-IP: [213.120.56.45]
 > From: "Mark Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
 > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:07:40
 > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2001 17:07:40.0605 (UTC)
 FILETIME=[CDCA26D0:01C09771]
 >
 >
 > IF this is true, I'll be really pd off with Cisco - all that hard
>>work,
 > and now the cert is going down the toilet.
 >
 > Mark
 > CCIE#6280
 >
 > >From: "Yurchenko, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > >Reply-To: "Yurchenko, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > >To: "'Jason T. Rohm'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"CCIELIST
>(E-mail)"
 > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > >Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
 > >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:27:33 -0500
 > >
 > >Well, recently I have seen a post that all 5 individuals who
>attempted
>>the
 > >test p

Re: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Kelly D Griffin

Perhaps they would like to respond back to this gentleman's e-mail in
Swahili.  Let's see if they can still walk with the shoe on the other foot.

Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
Network Engineer
Kg2 Network Design
http://www.kg2.com


- Original Message -
From: "Chris Sees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: Thought youd enjoy this


> I think you made it clear on "who needs a clue"
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Lauren Child
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Thought youd enjoy this
>
>
> Heehee, well this gave me a laugh and I thought you guys might like it.
>
> Ive removed the name in case the person who needs a clue is around.
>
> xx wrote:
> >
> > what ro u mean
> >
> > --- Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > try using the internet.  Youll be expected to.
> > >
> > > xx wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Sir
> > > > I have mcse and ccna
> > > > now i am doing ccnp
> > > > ihope i will complete this within this month
> > > > i am from india and want to move to uk
> > > > can u tell me that i can find the job in uk eaisly
> > > or
> > > > not.
> > > > pls also let me that how much salary i can earn on
> > > the
>
>
>
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USER MODE PASSWORD!!!

2001-02-15 Thread Pierre-Alex

I FOUND IT!

Cisco1912(config)# enable secret level 1 cisco

will require the password of "cisco" before allowing access to  USER mode!

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:50 PM
To: Pierre-Alex
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MORE TECHNICAL DETAILS ON PROBLEM SOLVED: VTY LINES NON
EXISTENT :

Think really hard.  You CAN do it.

-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 13, 2001 1:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MORE TECHNICAL DETAILS ON PROBLEM SOLVED: VTY LINES NON
EXISTENT :


I think the answer to your question is no. The only password that you can
set on the 1900 is the enable password/secret ...
Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:09 PM
To: Pierre-Alex; Dale Cunningham
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MORE TECHNICAL DETAILS ON PROBLEM SOLVED: VTY LINES NON
EXISTENT :

Pierre,

I see that Jorge Moreira managed to answer your question about vty passwords
on the Cisco Catalyst 1900 series switch.  What threw me (and Rik as well)
was your inclusion of "XL" after 1912--the Cisco Catalyst 1912 (and 1924)
switches are not part of the XL series.  I needed a few minutes to make sure
that Cisco hadn't come out with a new XL series switch for which I was
unaware before I re-responded to your query.

As you've discovered, Jorge is correct--it's the "enable" password on the
Catalyst 1900 series switch that is used to enable telnet access.  But since
we're discussing password usage on the 1900 series... here's a bit of a
brainteaser for you, the answer for which I had included in last month's
CCNA LAN Switching paper on CertificationZone:

You'll notice that when you access your Catalyst switch via the console
port, that without issuing any sort of password, you're immediately able to
access several commands on the switch -- you've immediately got access to
"user mode".  In some organizations, this can present a security risk.  Can
you set a "user-mode" password for the Catalyst 1900 series switch?  If so,
how?


  -- Leigh Anne



-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 13, 2001 12:39 PM
To: Dale Cunningham; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MORE TECHNICAL DETAILS ON PROBLEM SOLVED: VTY LINES NON
EXISTENT :


Hi all,

Technically speaking, there is no such thing as a console password on
version 9.00.04. of the catalyst 1912XL-EN. Although it is called a console
password, it is really an enable password. Following are the steps that
demonstrate this:

1) Erase nvram to start "fresh"
2) Type P to set the console password to cisco
3) Press K to enter the command line mode. You will be in enable mode
WITHOUT any prompt for a password.
4) Now try to enter enable mode. You are required to enter a password.
(cisco)
5) Go to config mode, set the enable password to demo, then exit
6) The next time you try to access the exec mode, the password that will let
you in will be demo, NOT cisco. This proves that the console password is
really an enable password.

Trying to understand why the user mode is unprotected (no console
password -strictly speaking)  I typed ? at the user mode. This is what I
got:

>?
Exec commands:
  enableTurn on privileged commands
  exit  Exit from the EXEC
  help  Description of the interactive help system
  ping  Send echo messages
  session   Tunnel to module
  show  Show running system information
  terminal  Set terminal line parameters

At first sight it looks like there is nothing major that you could do with
those commands, but if you explore the show options you will see at  least 2
powerful commands: show ip and show cdp neighbors that could be used to
document or hack into the network.

CONCLUSION:

 The 1912 does not have a console password and since there is no good reason
for this state of affair appropriate (physical) security measures should be
taken to prevent unauthorized console access.

Kind Regards to all,

Pierre-Alex


.


Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:30 AM
To: Dale Cunningham; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PROBLEM RESOLVED: VTY LINES NON EXISTENT :

So, I found out the hard way that VERSION IOS version 9. of the
1912XL-EN switch does NOT have VTY LINES. It ONLY has a Console Line. As
soon as I put the password on the Console line, I was able to telnet
remotely to the switch.

Thanks all for all helping,

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:27 AM
To: 'Pierre-Alex'; Dale Cunningham
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: VTY LINES NON EXISTENT!

RE: Thought you'd enjoy this (way off topic)

2001-02-15 Thread Mark Krysinski

As a word of caution to all on the list, there are those who join these list
to learn, brag, and look to hire.  Also, when you post you are representing
yourself to all on the list.  When you post and your post includes a url
where people can discover things about yourself. (I.E. when you piss someone
off and they discover they know the supervisor your work for, such as,
hummm, lets say Cable and Wireless)

It is a small world.

Instead of joking about someone, what can you learn from that person that
could possibly make you more employable/valuable?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Chris Sees
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Thought youd enjoy this


I think you made it clear on "who needs a clue"





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Lauren Child
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Thought youd enjoy this


Heehee, well this gave me a laugh and I thought you guys might like it.

Ive removed the name in case the person who needs a clue is around.

xx wrote:
>
> what ro u mean
>
> --- Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > try using the internet.  Youll be expected to.
> >
> > xx wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Sir
> > > I have mcse and ccna
> > > now i am doing ccnp
> > > ihope i will complete this within this month
> > > i am from india and want to move to uk
> > > can u tell me that i can find the job in uk eaisly
> > or
> > > not.
> > > pls also let me that how much salary i can earn on
> > the



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RE: ccnp routing frames

2001-02-15 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 10:19 AM 2/15/01, Robert Nickson wrote:
>sorry for OSPF

You should have left out that extra piece of information that the packets 
you mention are for OSPF, and anyone who didn't know that should go back to 
studying. &;-) This is an odd way of saying that you would have to know at 
least that much for the routing exam. You don't have to know the exact 
frame formats. It's must more important to understand the general 
principles of how OSPF routers become adjacent and synchronize their 
databases, and to be able to recognize the commonality in the frame formats.

With regards to frame formats, I think you should know the following:

OSPF runs directly above IP, using protocol type 89. (It does not use TCP 
or UDP.)

OSPF packets have an IP TTL of 1.

OSPF packets are sent to a reserved multicast address, either AllSPFRouters 
(224.0.0.5) or AllDRouters (224.0.0.6).

Each OSPF packet type begins with an OSPF packet header.

The Hello packet is used to find neighbors and detect problems.

All the other packet types carry link-state advertisement information of 
some sort.

The best book for describing what you should "really care about" when 
learning OSPF is Howard Berkowitz's "Designing Routing and Switching 
Architectures." I think he does a better job than Doyle in making sure the 
reader focuses on what really matters. And, as we know, he dispels urban 
myths with style and aplomb.

Priscilla



>-Original Message-
>From: Robert Nickson
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:10 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: ccnp routing frames
>
>
>On the CCNP routing exam is there any questions on (i.e do i have to
>memorise)
>frame for frame the format of hello packets,DD packets,LSA packet
>frames...etc
>like ..version,type,packet length,route ID,Area ID,Checksum,Au
>type,Authentication etc etc
>or is there certain fields i should learn
>
>Any help would be useful




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HELP 2513 SCREWED UP !!!

2001-02-15 Thread Michael Ibidunni


  Folks,
  I'am hoping someone can help here, I have 2 2513s in my lab with exactly this 
same amount of
flash/memory 16/16 and IOS 12.0(6)IP feature set. I upgraded the first one to 
enterprise 12.0
using cisco's TFTP server on a pc, I then decided to upgrade the other one following a 
paper that
I found here   
 
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/fun_c/fcprt2/fcaddfun.htm
I used the part where you configure the router with the IOS you need downloading as a 
TFTP server
and the one to be upgraded as a client. It went on for hours with CCC on 
hyperterm and
never came round, now when I boots it all it does is spew out C and I can't 
even break
into it and I've search CCO. I will really appreciate you help if someone knows a link 
on CCO or
else where.

Thanks in advance 

=
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Re: Which CVOICE book???

2001-02-15 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

"Integrating Voice and Data Networks," by Scott Keagy. It's a book for 
engineers, not just test takers. If you like simple books that are thrown 
together as fast as possible to get market share, you might not like this 
book. But if you like books that are detailed, accurate, and relevant, this 
book is superb.

Priscilla

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> Wanted to know which book/s I should read to prep for the CVOICE
>specialization exam. I like Lammle's style of writing (understandable). I
>don't just want to pass the test cause I think that voice is gonna be huge,
>so I also want a book that will teach my what I need to know. Anybody that
>has taken the test or read any of these books please help me out. I want to
>place my order asap on the book. Thanks,
>
>Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNP, CCDA
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RE: Which Job Should I Take?

2001-02-15 Thread Coker, Michael

Pre-IPO indicates the company has plans to go public (ie sell shares of the
company on the stock market).

This topic should also probably be moved to the jobs list.

As far as the two job options, I'd chose the opportunity that will allow you
to work with the technology you want to work with.  These two jobs are very
different from each other.  I'd think the major decision would be "do I want
to focus/pursue VoX technology?"  That should make your decision fairly easy
as in my experience you will either love the Voice arena or you will hate
it.  I'd say getting involved with the Voice arena has a high chance of
getting you off the R&S studies.  But on the other hand the Voice arena is
getting huge!  Opportunities are popping up left and right for people
focused on Cisco AVVID technologies.  I'd evaluate your interest in Voice
and then make your decision based on that.

Another side note, if you determine that you are in fact interested in
pursuing Voice technology then I wouldn't worry about the company being
pre-IPO.  If they fail, and the department you work in gets cut, you will
find getting another job dealing with Voice to be no problem.

Remember, hours and dress are petty concerns compared to what you actually
"do" for a living.

HTH

Best Regards,

--Mike 

> -Original Message-
> From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:22 AM
> To: 'Traceroute'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Which Job Should I Take?
> 
> 
> I know what I would do, but that should not influate your 
> decision. We all
> have different goals, and if you have a family to support, 
> you should talk
> with them first before you make your choice. With a wife and 
> kids there's
> big difference from working 9-5 to 1-midnight.
> 
> You'll get used to the business dress very quickly, so don't 
> let that scare
> you too much.
> 
> A title is "just" a title, but maybe they would offer you a 
> better one at
> your current job if you deside to go with the new one.
> 
> I have no idea what pre-ipo means, so I can't guide you in 
> that matter.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Ole
> 
> 
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  http://www.CiscoKing.com
> 
>  NEED A JOB ???
>  http://www.oledrews.com/job
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Traceroute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:53 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Which Job Should I Take?
> 
> 
> I was wondering if you all could share your opinions with me. 
> I have a =
> choice of two jobs to take listed below. Both are an increase 
> in pay of =
> about 9k.
> 
> 1. My current Job: They are going to title me "network 
> engineer" working =
> 4 10 hour days 1 pm to midnight ( I love the hours) , but we 
> work with =
> cabletron, checkpoint and cisco. We have a campus and WAN support =
> responsibility. Sometimes it's a bit slow when nothing is 
> happening and =
> I may get some "Win NT" duties, yuck I would have sunday, 
> monday and =
> tuesdays off and could possibly get some good side gigs. Last 
> but not =
> least, it's business casual.
> 
> 2. New Job Offer: I will be titled a "network administrator" 
> working 8 =
> to 5 monday through friday ( I hate waking up early ), but getting =
> exposure to ATM, Voice over IP and voice over ATM. Lots of MC 3810s =
> about 50 or so with conections all over the US. One thing is 
> for sure is =
> there are NT admins to handle the "Win NT" issues, I really want to =
> graduate from the NT support world for good. This company is also =
> pre-ipo and although they are a huge company, this is a new 
> "division" =
> and pre-ipo makes me nervous because I have a family to support. One =
> cool thing is that they are a cisco gold partner. One bad 
> thing is that =
> they are business dress, yes the whole tie thing. The pre-ipo thing =
> makes me nervous because they say "yea when we go public, 
> lots of the =
> big wigs will be rich"... Does this mean new management takeovers =
> etc...??
> 
> 
> Anyway, thanks for any input...
> 
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Re: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Nnanna Obuba



In my opinion this guy should not be made fun of AT ALL. Why do you
take it for granted that this guy has internet access whenever he wants
it?  While we are at it , the cisco website can answer most questions
asked on this list, does that make people who ask foolish? I think not.
I think it does no harm to assume the next guy has some intelligence 


Nnanna

--- Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> "Roberts, Timothy" wrote:
> > 
> > Obviously english is not this persons first language.  Why should
> this
> > person be made fun of because he has not fully mastered it yet?
> > 
> 
> He shouldnt.  He should be made fun of for having an MCSE and CCNA,
> and
> working for CCNP, and not mastering the search engine.
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Lab Equipment

2001-02-15 Thread RamanG


Hello Gang,

I am looking for 25xx/26xx series routers & 2901 switch.  Any seller on the
list, if so, contact me directly.

Thanks


RamanG

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Connecting another vendor's switch to Cisco's

2001-02-15 Thread Jeff Walzer

We have a partner company that needs to do some heavy duty testing relating
to the network. We currently have them on a Cisco 3548XL switch. They would
like to buy a generic switch that has some gigabit ports and then create a
channel to the Cisco switch with 4 ports. Would this be possible? How does
Cisco's equipment play wth others?

Thanks,
Jeff

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RE: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Christopher Kolp

Lauren,

I don't think it had anything to do with a search engine.

If I may correct his poor english skills, it sounds like:

>To Whom It Concerns,
>
>I currently hold MCSE and CCNA certification, and am finishing my CCNP
>shortly. I am a citizen in India and would like to relocate to the UK if
>possible.
>
>In your opinion, what is the job market for a person such as myself?
>Also, I'm sure the salary over there is different than here, what would I
>be looking at?
>
>Thank you.

Am I wrong??

ck


> > > Dear Sir
> > > I have mcse and ccna
> > > now i am doing ccnp
> > > ihope i will complete this within this month
> > > i am from india and want to move to uk
> > > can u tell me that i can find the job in uk eaisly
> > or
> > > not.
> > > pls also let me that how much salary i can earn on
> > the
> > > bases of ccnp.
> > > thanks.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Lauren Child
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roberts, Timothy
Subject: Re: Thought youd enjoy this




"Roberts, Timothy" wrote:
>
> Obviously english is not this persons first language.  Why should this
> person be made fun of because he has not fully mastered it yet?
>

He shouldnt.  He should be made fun of for having an MCSE and CCNA, and
working for CCNP, and not mastering the search engine.

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Re: Connecting another vendor's switch to Cisco's

2001-02-15 Thread Kelly D Griffin

I can tell you from personal experience that Extreme Networks works well
with Cisco gear.  The only problems we have had are on multicast version
compatibility, but even that was worked out.

Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
Network Engineer
Kg2 Network Design
http://www.kg2.com


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To: "'Cisco'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:19 PM
Subject: Connecting another vendor's switch to Cisco's


> We have a partner company that needs to do some heavy duty testing
relating
> to the network. We currently have them on a Cisco 3548XL switch. They
would
> like to buy a generic switch that has some gigabit ports and then create a
> channel to the Cisco switch with 4 ports. Would this be possible? How does
> Cisco's equipment play wth others?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
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Re: Cisco secure policy manager

2001-02-15 Thread Manny Colon

Will not work with 2000

Regards,

Manny Colon
Computer Services
Information Builders Inc.


ML wrote:

> Anyone try running CSPM on a Windows 2000 box.  Let me know how it worked.
>
> THanks,
> ML
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Re: alternative to Cisco routers

2001-02-15 Thread Peter Van Oene

How is current layer 3 switching any different from routing?  I believe your concern 
would lie with forwarding performance? 

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 2/14/2001 at 10:43 PM Kenneth wrote:

>You obviously can't do layer 3 SWITCHING with a box loaded with Linux. It
>might do routing but definitely can't be used in an enterprise nor an ISP.
>
>anthony kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> This is all well and good for the big time players, ISPs, big corps
>> yadda yadda yadda, and companies with cash to burn like so much old toilet
>> paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always can
>> accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and
>> cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support.
>>
>> So my obligatory cisco alternative:
>> www.zebra.org
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:00:36PM -0600, William E. Gragido wrote:
>> >There ServerIronXL Layer 4-7 switches are pretty cool boxes as well.
>> >Foundry is also pretty nice in that their command line interface is
>awfully
>> >reminiscent of Cisco's.  The transition from one to the other should not
>be
>> >too difficult.
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: Christopher Kolp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:41 PM
>> >To: 'Brant Stevens'; 'William E. Gragido'; 'Howard C. Berkowitz';
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers
>> >
>> >
>> >Foundry prices are killer and the performance is top notch.
>> >
>> >We're planning a roll out with 40 OC-12 POS. Guess who our preferred
>> >provider is?
>> >
>> >None other than foundry.
>> >
>> >-ck
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> >Brant Stevens
>> >Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:28 PM
>> >To: William E. Gragido; 'Howard C. Berkowitz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers
>> >
>> >
>> >Not to mention Foundry...
>> >
>> >Brant I. Stevens
>> >Internetwork Solutions Engineer
>> >Thrupoint, Inc.
>> >545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
>> >New York, NY. 10017
>> >646-562-6540
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> >William E. Gragido
>> >Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:47 PM
>> >To: 'Howard C. Berkowitz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers
>> >
>> >
>> >Riding on the coat tails of Howard's comments, there are also other
>players
>> >out there like Lucent(home of the  Nexibit N64000 Terabit Switch Router
>and
>> >the Ascend product lines), Avici, Charlette's Web, Nortel etc., that
>offer
>> >carrier grade solutions.
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> >Howard C. Berkowitz
>> >Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:20 PM
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: Re: alternative to Cisco routers
>> >
>> >
>> >A few comments, in which I think I am being reasonably objective.
>> >
>> >On this list, people periodically speak of the joys of Cisco, because
>> >it offers end-to-end solutions.  That is a very enterprise-oriented
>> >view.
>> >
>> >Much more than in the enterprise space, carriers/ISPs tend to _want_
>> >multivendor solutions. There are several reasons.  They are
>> >protected, to some extent, from bugs in the hardware or software of a
>> >specific implementation.  Next, if they have several qualified
>> >vendors, they can get some protection against delivery backlogs from
>> >one of them.  The larger provider also can play competitive discount
>> >and service games with the vendors.
>> >
>> >In this market, Juniper has the advantage of having built a product
>> >as carrier-oriented from the ground up. There's a lot of bloat in IOS
>> >due to the perception or need for legacy, usually
>> >enterprise-oriented, features.  Independent reviewers, such as the
>> >Tolly group, have indicated that Junipers may have as good or better
>> >throughput than equivalent Cisco products.
>> >
>> >No one vendor owns the entire carrier router space. Cisco's
>> >advertising that ninety-some percent of the traffic in the internet
>> >goes over the equipment of one company doesn't necessarily mean the
>> >core bandwidth, but that the traffic at some point hits an enterprise
>> >or carrier Cisco device.  In any case, I prefer the variant of this
>> >slogan I saw in someone's .sig (hoping I don't hit a filter)
>> >"ninety-some percent of the p*rn*graphy in the Internet goes through
>> >the equipment of one company."  Said comment could be equally true of
>> >Cisco's routers or Nortel's optics.
>> >
>> >Juniper and Cisco both make fine products.
>> >
>> >
>> >>John,
>> >>
>> >>I went to a BGP study session and the instructor said that major ISP use
>> >>Juniper router to run BGP. Hope this help. PEACE
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Raheem
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>From: John C

Passed BSCN

2001-02-15 Thread Christopher Supino

Hey all,

Passed BSCN 2.0 today with an 896. Pretty surprised at relative low
difficulty of most of the questions.
Any recommendations on which test should be next?



Christopher Supino
Senior Systems Engineer,
CCNA, MCSE, Novell CNA, Compaq ASE
TransNet Corp.

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RE: Which Job Should I Take?

2001-02-15 Thread Denis A. Baldwin

"Pre-IPO" in our current market could mean you might strike it rich over
night over looking for a new job the next day.  I tend to be more of a
traditionalist and stick with estabilished companies, but there is something
to say for sticking your neck out.  No matter what, have a back up plan.

Denis

I have no idea what pre-ipo means, so I can't guide you in that matter.

Hth,

Ole

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RE: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Denis A. Baldwin

As do I.  Granted, english is my first language, and I tend to pick this
stuff up pretty easily, but there are hundreds of times where I looked
around the cisco site and didn't find anything only to ask the list and have
an answer within a few minutes.

Denis


Denis A. Baldwin - Network Administrator
A+ / Network + / I-Net+ / MCP


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Lurker
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Thought youd enjoy this


Perhaps you should make fun of me too.  I think it's a reasonable question
and I fail to see the humor.



Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Heehee, well this gave me a laugh and I thought you guys might like it.
>
> Ive removed the name in case the person who needs a clue is around.
>
> xx wrote:
> >
> > what ro u mean
> >
> > --- Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > try using the internet.  Youll be expected to.
> > >
> > > xx wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Sir
> > > > I have mcse and ccna
> > > > now i am doing ccnp
> > > > ihope i will complete this within this month
> > > > i am from india and want to move to uk
> > > > can u tell me that i can find the job in uk eaisly
> > > or
> > > > not.
> > > > pls also let me that how much salary i can earn on
> > > the
> > > > bases of ccnp.
> > > > thanks.
> > > >
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Tragedy of the Commons (was Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

There's a basic concept in economic theory called the "tragedy of the 
commons."  The commons, in this case, was a shared pasture in which 
the village livestock could graze.  As long as the number of cattle 
fit the basic needs of each family, the commons provided enough 
grazing land for all.

But less cooperative people decided that they could increase their 
personal profits by having more cows and sheep.  Nothing wrong with 
that -- except the also expected to pasture them on the common land, 
rather than set up private pastures for private herds and flocks.

The commons, however, had just so much capacity, and, when it was 
overgrazed by the additional beasts, the grass could no longer 
recover, and the entire resource died.  Nothing could graze any 
longer.

Information based on people's time is a modern version.  It takes 
time to scan a list for irrelevant messages, especially when people 
don't use informative subject headings. Outside North America, there 
is often a monetary cost to downloading more and more material that 
may not be of interest.

So yes -- when people ask questions that could be answered with 
reasonable use of a search engine, I get a bit annoyed.  CCO, I 
realize, can be uncooperative, and I am sympathetic to people who say 
"I tried to find this on CCO but didn't get anything useful."

There is no question that I'm usually rude to telemarketers. 
Sometimes, they whine that they won't take much of my time. But I 
really try to create a hostile work environment for telemarketers, 
because if encouraged, they will waste so much of my time that I 
won't be able to earn money to buy their products.

Hopefully, my parable may convey something about effective and fair 
use of lists.

>Lauren Child wrote,



>"Roberts, Timothy" wrote:
>  >
>>  Obviously english is not this persons first language.  Why should this
>>  person be made fun of because he has not fully mastered it yet?
>>
>
>He shouldnt.  He should be made fun of for having an MCSE and CCNA, and
>working for CCNP, and not mastering the search engine.

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RE: DB60 to RJ45 adapters?

2001-02-15 Thread Brian Dennis

They are a little expensive compared to generic DCE to DTE cables but you
could use these and put them in a standard RJ45 patch panel. This would make
swapping lab topologies around very easy.

Brian Dennis
CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial)
CCSI #98640



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For $63.95 I'd skip the adapters and get the real deal.

Dan Pontrelli
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Re: no domain controller available

2001-02-15 Thread Raj Singh

Jim,

You could set up VMPS and VTP to solve the problem.

The campus-wide VLAN model provides the flexibility to have statically
configured end stations move to a different floor or building within the
campus.

Cisco's VLAN Membership Policy Server (VMPS) and the VLAN Trunking Protocol
(VTP) make this possible.

For example, a mobile user plugs a laptop PC into a LAN port in another
building. The local Catalyst switch sends a query to the VMPS to determine
the access policy and VLAN membership for the user. Then the Catalyst switch
adds the user's port to the appropriate VLAN.

- raj



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>
> I have users at different buildings (on different
> subnets), when they move their laptop to another
> building, they have to do ip release/renew, otherwise,
> they won't get new ip address. Swithes are
> 5000/5500/6500. Port fast is already enabled. Anything
> needs to be done on PCs?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
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RE: ccnp routing frames

2001-02-15 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>At 10:19 AM 2/15/01, Robert Nickson wrote:
>>sorry for OSPF
>
>You should have left out that extra piece of information that the packets
>you mention are for OSPF, and anyone who didn't know that should go back to
>studying. &;-) This is an odd way of saying that you would have to know at
>least that much for the routing exam. You don't have to know the exact
>frame formats. It's must more important to understand the general
>principles of how OSPF routers become adjacent and synchronize their
>databases, and to be able to recognize the commonality in the frame formats.

I'll have a "metapaper" about link state routing protocols appearing 
shortly at CertZone (I think March 1), which identifies the general 
principles that apply to both OSPF and ISIS.  There will be a series 
of more detailed papers following, on both single area and 
hierarchical OSPF and ISIS.

>
>With regards to frame formats, I think you should know the following:
>
>OSPF runs directly above IP, using protocol type 89. (It does not use TCP
>or UDP.)
>
>OSPF packets have an IP TTL of 1.
>
>OSPF packets are sent to a reserved multicast address, either AllSPFRouters
>(224.0.0.5) or AllDRouters (224.0.0.6).
>
>Each OSPF packet type begins with an OSPF packet header.


5 packet types, all but hello carrying one or more Link State 
Advertisements (LSA).  One thing that can really be confusing is that 
one of the packet types is Link State Acknowledgement.  This packet 
is usually abbreviated LSAck to avoid conflict with LSA.  A LSAck can 
carry one or more LSA headers (LSA's have both fixed-length headers 
and variable-length specific information).

>
>The Hello packet is used to find neighbors and detect problems.
>
>All the other packet types carry link-state advertisement information of
>some sort.

There are about a dozen LSA types.  Some (e.g., type 6 and type 8) 
are not used by Cisco.  Others (type 9 and above) are still 
experimental or used in new technologies such as OSPF traffic 
engineering.  For general consumption, know about 1-5 and 7.

>
>The best book for describing what you should "really care about" when
>learning OSPF is Howard Berkowitz's "Designing Routing and Switching
>Architectures." I think he does a better job than Doyle in making sure the
>reader focuses on what really matters. And, as we know, he dispels urban
>myths with style and aplomb.
>
>Priscilla

I can't help but giggle a bit here.  I was the reviewer for Jeff's 
OSPF chapter, and he reviewed some of my CertZone BGP papers.  We 
hold each other in high respect, I believe, but we have different 
writing styles. Jeff, for example, feels that it's valuable to quote 
a lot of RFC-ish material at the start of a chapter, to establish 
precision for the discussion in the latter part of the chapter. It's 
probably fair to say that his mental model is more 
bottom-up/synthetic than mine, which is more top-down/analytic.

As far as urban myth dispelling, I can't help but wonder if aplombing 
is one of the characteristics of a roto-router.  Apologies to those 
outside North America for the regional reference.

When I wrote the Designing Routing and Switching Book, I was 
concentrating neither on configuration and troubleshooting (more 
Jeff's focus) nor why various alternative choices were made in the 
protocol itself (see John Moy's and Radia Perlman's books). I may be 
submitting some proposed extensions to OSPF to the IETF, but then I 
will be wearing my protocol architect hat, which is different from my 
network architect hat.

>
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Robert Nickson
>>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:10 AM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: ccnp routing frames
>>
>>
>>On the CCNP routing exam is there any questions on (i.e do i have to
>>memorise)
>>frame for frame the format of hello packets,DD packets,LSA packet
>>frames...etc
>>like ..version,type,packet length,route ID,Area ID,Checksum,Au
>>type,Authentication etc etc
>>or is there certain fields i should learn
>>
>>Any help would be useful
>
>
>
>
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Re: alternative to Cisco routers

2001-02-15 Thread Dan West

yea, point taken, but I wouldn't want a router that's
slow or unreliable either...

--- Kenneth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A router is a device that routes layer 3 packets.
> 
> Doesn't matter if it's fast or slow, reliable or
> not.
> 
> John Nemeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On May 31,  8:23pm, anthony kim wrote:
> > } --- John Nemeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > } > On Jul 7,  4:07am, "Fowler, Robert J." wrote:
> > } > }
> > } > } However it might be a good choice for
> someone who is building a
> > } > home lab. It
> > } > } is much cheaper to piece together some
> computers and throw zebra
> > } > on it than
> > } > } to buy several routers. I've never used
> Zebra but it sounds like
> > } > if you had
> > } > } some existing equipment and wanted to expand
> on that, couldn't
> > } > afford to buy
> > } > } another router but had some old PC's it
> would be the way to go,
> > } > since
> > } > } speed/reliability wouldn't be a real factor
> in a home lab. Any
> > } > thoughts?
> > } >
> > } >  Although, you may learn something about
> the protocols, you
> > } > won't
> > } > learn anything about real routers.  You
> definitely need to get
> > } > hands on
> > } > with real routers.  Zebra could be used to
> simulate a secondary
> > } > router
> > } > in a multi-router experiment, but it isn't
> sufficient by itself.
> > }
> > } Is a real router a device which routes layer 3
> packets? Or a device
> > } "specifically designed" to route layer 3
> packets. Your statement
> > } implies the latter. Whereas I believe the
> former.
> >
> >  The latter.  A PC make be able to route
> packets, but that doesn't
> > make it a real router.  The hardware device is
> going to be faster
> > (especially at the high end), more reliable,
> require much less
> > maintenance (which makes it cheaper in the long
> run), and easier to
> > install and setup (not to mention take up far less
> space).  I'm a huge
> > fan of UNIX and will tend to run just about
> everything on UNIX systems,
> > but even I realise that UNIX host based systems
> are not the correct
> > solution for every problem.
> >
> > } You *will* learn about real routers because the
> pc is a real router.
> > } You may *not learn* anything about IOS or
> $VENDOR's routers.
> >
> >  That is the purpose of getting Cisco certs...
> >
> > }-- End of excerpt from anthony kim
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Re: no domain controller available

2001-02-15 Thread Raj Singh

Jim,

Also look at these links they may help.

The Basics
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/rtrmgmt/cw2000/fam_prod/user
_reg/2_0/urt20/useguide/urt_bscs.htm

Planning for User Registration
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/rtrmgmt/cw2000/fam_prod/user
_reg/1_2_1/use_reg/ur1plan.htm

- raj


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> I have users at different buildings (on different
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> they won't get new ip address. Swithes are
> 5000/5500/6500. Port fast is already enabled. Anything
> needs to be done on PCs?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
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RE: Cisco Space Phone

2001-02-15 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Cool! Just like the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey!"

By the way, for live coverage of NASA activities, see this link:

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/nasatv/index.html

Priscilla


At 10:37 AM 2/15/01, Buri, Heather H wrote:
>Here it is:
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Will Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:15 AM
>Subject: Is this COOL or what? Cisco Space Phones!
>
>
> > Enjoy the read!!
> >
> >
> > >>Yesterday, at approximately 4:09 PM Central, the first phone call from
> > space was made. Astronaut Marsha Ivin, using a Cisco IP SoftPhone on the
> > Space Shuttle Atlantis, made the first and second telephone calls EVER
>from
> > space.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>NASA has had CallManager software in a development lab since prior to
> > the Selsius acquisition by Cisco. The Selsius, and now second-generation
> > Cisco phones, have been unusually tolerant to the satellite delay between
> > Mission Control in Houston and the Shuttle. Brett Parrish, lead NASA
> > engineer on this project, holds our CallManager software in very high
> > regard, especially since finding it works over satellite delay without
> > modification between our hardware-based phones (tested to up to 1.2
>seconds
> > of delay). Brett has stated that it is very unusual for an application to
> > work out of the box with this type of delay.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Since certification for flight is an extremely long and, at times,
> > extremely political process, NASA decided to use SoftPhone for the first
> > trial. The main reason for this is that the laptop PCs used by NASA
> > astronauts have already been certified, and getting a software process in
> > flight is much easier than launching hardware. Extensive testing was
> > performed at NASA using custom-built equipment to replicate the delays and
>
> > LOS (Loss Of Signal) conditions common with the Space Shuttle. Minor
> > modifications were made to CallManager (inclusion of a service parameter)
> > and to SoftPhone (change in the order of events for call acceptance) by
> > Cisco development to address TAPI issues with delay, and SoftPhone was
> > approved for a trial flight. Unfortunately, this was not an official goal
> > of the Space Shuttle Atlantis, which simply meant testing was not
> > scheduled, and not guaranteed. Despite the lack of official stature for
> > this test, optimism that SoftPhone would be tested was very high as the
> > Astronauts had seen the application and were demanding that it fly with
>the
> > Shuttle. Imagine being out in space with no way to call home! Imagine
>being
> > IN space and being able to make a normal phone call anywhere! Despite all
> > the technological advances, separation is very apparent when out in space.
>
> > Never has an Astronaut been able to pick up a phone and place a call.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>At approximately 4:00PM Central the opportunity to make a call using
>the
> > Cisco IP SoftPhone became available. Marsha Ivin, with a brief break in
> > official tasks, asked Space Command if there was time to try the IP
> > SoftPhone. The Flight Commander gave the go-ahead and the test was on!.
> > Marsha booted up the SoftPhone and at approximately 4:09PM made a call to
> > the Flight Director. The call went from her SoftPhone software through a
> > VG-200 gateway, over an FXO port, through a PBX to the phone on the Flight
>
> > Director s desk. They held a long and animated conversation (though what
> > was actually discussed is unknown) and at the end Marsha was granted
> > permission to call one of the 7960 phones in the POC (Payload Operations
> > Center). She made the call and it was answered by Brett Parrish. Marsha
> > asked So how do you like getting the second ever call from space? . After
> > speaking with Brett, Steve Schadelbauer of NASA was put on the line and he
>
> > spoke with Marsha. The conversations with Marsha lasted for several
> > minutes. Both Brett and Steve commented at how clear the conversation was
> > much better than the audio quality found on the radio conversations with
> > the Shuttle.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>It was amazing at how much of a non-event this was. History in the
> > making but no scrambling, no trouble-shooting. IT JUST WORKS !!! Most of
> > the credit goes to Brett and Steve for their tireless testing and
> > replication of the Shuttle s environment. On the other hand, this is truly
>
> > an illustration of how Cisco s IP Telephony makes geographic location
> > irrelevant to audio communications. Anywhere, and that means ANYWHERE, you
>
> > have IP connectivity you have a COMMUNICATIONS network, which includes
> > telephony. The network works, no excuses!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>This is a tribute to many things. Brett and Steve put our software and
> > hardware through the ringer at NASA subjecting it to delay, loss of
>signal,
> > and bit error rates well above what would be found even between Mission
> > Control and the Shuttle. As a result, this hi

Re: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Lauren Child



Christopher Kolp wrote:
> 
> Lauren,
> 
> I don't think it had anything to do with a search engine.
> 
> If I may correct his poor english skills, it sounds like:
> 

I dont know about you but Id say that -

> > > > can u tell me that i can find the job in uk eaisly
> > > or
> > > > not.
> > > > pls also let me that how much salary i can earn on
> > > the
> > > > bases of ccnp.

sounds remarkedly like asking me to do his boring work for him.  Ive
helped other people with career issues before, but I dont like being
taken for granted or treated as google.  

Hes a lazy twonk reguardless of where hes from.

Anyhows, thats it Im ignoring any more emails justifying someone who
just assumed Id give him all the info he needed without him having to
lift a finger.  Hes supposed to be an engineer.  And I and a number of
others found it funny that hed actually got that many certs while
remaining fundamentally crap.

TTFN
Lauren

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RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

2001-02-15 Thread Pierre-Alex

You are Brilliant!

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leigh
Anne Chisholm
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:45 AM
To: Pierre-Alex
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

Okay Pierre-Alex, here's my diagram:

W A X  (root bridge) - 2924XL (0/20 and 0/21)
|   |
|   |
Y B Z  (non-root bridge) - 1912 (0/26 and 0/27)

You wrote:  Changing the priority of port Y or Z (ports on the 1912) will
have NO effect on the spanning tree.

That's what I suspected when you first presented your problem when
establishing a lower port priority on port Z (0/27) didn't result in 0/27
switching to forwarding mode with Y (0/26) being blocked upon reload of the
switch.

Radia's "Interconnections, Second Edition" led me to believe that you would
have to lower the port priority on the 2924XL (0/21) rather than the 1912
but I tend to find sometimes her writing style difficult to understand.
That's why I asked you to reset the port priorities on the 1912 and instead
alter the port priorities on the 2924XL's 0/20 and 0/21 ports.  Yes I know
that you really only had to alter port priority on the port you wanted to be
forwarding rather than blocking... but I thought I'd keep with your previous
1912 configuration methodology...

Glad to know everything's now working!


  -- Leigh Anne

-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 15, 2001 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!


Dear Anne,

I can answer this question. :)

Case Scenario: (You may want to draw as you go along...)

Swith A is the root bridge, and Switch B is the non-root bridge
Switch A is connected to Switch B via to links of equal cost.
We will call the ports on Switch A: W and X, and the ports on Switch B:Y and
Z

W is connected to Y and X is connected to Z

Changing the priority of port Y or Z will have NO effect on the spanning
tree.

However changing the the priority of W or X will cause the following:
1) If W is greater than X, then Z will be blocked
2) If X is greater than W, then Y will be blocked

I tried many other case scenarios yesterday evening. I can summurize them as
follows:

1) If the cost of link WY and the cost of link XZ are not equal, then cost
IS the criteria for deciding which port will be blocked
and no change of priority (on W, X , Y ,Z) is going to change the spanning
tree
2) If the cost of link WY and the cost of link XZ are equal, then the
priorities set by ports X and W of the root bridge will be the determining
factors.
3) If the priority of link WY and the priority of link XZ are the same, the
non root bridge will choose as the root port, the sending port that had the
lowest mac address (If we assume that W has a lower mac address than  X,
then port Y will be the root port and port Z will be blocked)

Did that fulfill some of your thurst for knowledge?  :)

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:38 AM
To: Pierre-Alex
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

By the way... if you've got a few moments, would you like to try something
for me?  At the bottom of my email, I wanted to know why setting the port
priority didn't influence which port becomes blocked.  If the path costs of
0/26 and 0/27 were identical, which port priority values need to be altered
to influence spanning tree path selection?  Is it port priority on the 1912
or the 2924XL?


  -- Leigh Anne

-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 15, 2001 9:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!


"Why did yours reset to its original value while mine retained its new path
cost?  We're both running 9.00.04 code so I wouldn't suspect a bug to be the
cause of the problem...  One possibility may be that if you set your port
path cost and then immediately reset your switch"

This is precisely the mistake I made. While I figured it out, everything
worked OK.

Thanks again.

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:58 PM
To: Pierre-Alex
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!

"Once the root bridge has been selected, all bridges and switches in the
network calculate the shortest path distance between itself and the root
bridge.  Each port sends a configuration BPDU message to determine the cost
between itself and the root bridge.  The port with the lowest cost is
designated as the root port for the bridge. "

On my Catalyst 1924-F-EN, I set the port cost of Ethernet 0/1 to 50 using
the "spantree cost 50" command.  I then typed reload.  O

Lab Date Swap

2001-02-15 Thread Wilton White

I have a lab scheduled in San Jose for March 12.

I am willing to swap with anyone(in San Jose or RTP) for an April, May, or
early June date.

Please let me know



--WW

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Re: Which Job Should I Take?

2001-02-15 Thread Allen May

I took a pre-ipo offer with 2000 shares of non-existent stock.
Unfortunately it was a .com that started a year before the .com crash
  Looking back I don't regret it though.  I got a ton of experience setting
up frame-relay circuits, firewalls, and all other network administration.
It all has to balance out with what you enjoy doing, the stability of the
company (layoffs or shutdowns are possible in pre-ipo), and of course..$$.

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To: "'Ole Drews Jensen'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Traceroute'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: Which Job Should I Take?


> "Pre-IPO" in our current market could mean you might strike it rich over
> night over looking for a new job the next day.  I tend to be more of a
> traditionalist and stick with estabilished companies, but there is
something
> to say for sticking your neck out.  No matter what, have a back up plan.
>
> Denis
>
> I have no idea what pre-ipo means, so I can't guide you in that matter.
>
> Hth,
>
> Ole
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RE: Tragedy of the Commons (was Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Ray Mosely

I read a bit of callousness in Lauren's approach,
but I agree with the general idea Lauren proposes.
I have sent out similar emails to people who waste
my time, instead of doing a bit of research.  I also
oppose the use of "shorthand" english in public emails.
It is offputting, so I tend to ignore those people
entirely.

But, Howard, aren't you being a little too cryptic?
The commons obviously is the listserv.  But who are
putting too many sheep out?  Lauren (and me, I guess,
by association  with that point of view), or all the
others who criticize?

Or both sides?  I agree, it is time to end this thread.

Ray Mosely
CCNA, MCSE

BTW, Howard, our first communiques ended up with you
bashing me.  Thank you, sincerely, because I was humbled.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Howard C. Berkowitz
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tragedy of the Commons (was Thought youd enjoy this


There's a basic concept in economic theory called the "tragedy of the
commons."  The commons, in this case, was a shared pasture in which
the village livestock could graze.  As long as the number of cattle
fit the basic needs of each family, the commons provided enough
grazing land for all.

But less cooperative people decided that they could increase their
personal profits by having more cows and sheep.  Nothing wrong with
that -- except the also expected to pasture them on the common land,
rather than set up private pastures for private herds and flocks.

The commons, however, had just so much capacity, and, when it was
overgrazed by the additional beasts, the grass could no longer
recover, and the entire resource died.  Nothing could graze any
longer.

Information based on people's time is a modern version.  It takes
time to scan a list for irrelevant messages, especially when people
don't use informative subject headings. Outside North America, there
is often a monetary cost to downloading more and more material that
may not be of interest.

So yes -- when people ask questions that could be answered with
reasonable use of a search engine, I get a bit annoyed.  CCO, I
realize, can be uncooperative, and I am sympathetic to people who say
"I tried to find this on CCO but didn't get anything useful."

There is no question that I'm usually rude to telemarketers.
Sometimes, they whine that they won't take much of my time. But I
really try to create a hostile work environment for telemarketers,
because if encouraged, they will waste so much of my time that I
won't be able to earn money to buy their products.

Hopefully, my parable may convey something about effective and fair
use of lists.

>Lauren Child wrote,



>"Roberts, Timothy" wrote:
>  >
>>  Obviously english is not this persons first language.  Why should this
>>  person be made fun of because he has not fully mastered it yet?
>>
>
>He shouldnt.  He should be made fun of for having an MCSE and CCNA, and
>working for CCNP, and not mastering the search engine.

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RE: USER MODE PASSWORD!!!

2001-02-15 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Congratulations Pierre-Alex, you're really on a roll!  Here's the excerpt I
wrote on how to do it that can be found in CertificationZone's CCNA LAN
Switching White Paper.  Note that it doesn't have to be the "enable secret"
password in order to force the Catalyst 1900 series switch to prompt for a
user-mode password.  Since it's a standard IOS command, it could likely be
used on any Cisco IOS-based switch where access to user mode isn't
restricted by default.

"The global-configuration mode command enable password  is used to
secure access to the privileged exec mode.  An enable password can be set to
secure access to user exec mode if exec level 1 is specified in conjunction
with the enable password command.  For example:  SwitchA(config)#enable
password level 1 ."


  -- Leigh Anne

-Original Message-
From: Tom Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 15, 2001 1:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FW: VTY LINES NON EXISTENT


It looks like Pierre-Alex found it, enable secret level 1 cisco, although I
haven't seen your response to his post yet.

Tom


-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 15, 2001 11:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Dale Cunningham; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: USER MODE PASSWORD!!!


I FOUND IT!

Cisco1912(config)# enable secret level 1 cisco

will require the password of "cisco" before allowing access to  USER mode!

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:50 PM
To: Pierre-Alex
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MORE TECHNICAL DETAILS ON PROBLEM SOLVED: VTY LINES NON
EXISTENT :

Think really hard.  You CAN do it.

-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 13, 2001 1:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MORE TECHNICAL DETAILS ON PROBLEM SOLVED: VTY LINES NON
EXISTENT :


I think the answer to your question is no. The only password that you can
set on the 1900 is the enable password/secret ...
Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:09 PM
To: Pierre-Alex; Dale Cunningham
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MORE TECHNICAL DETAILS ON PROBLEM SOLVED: VTY LINES NON
EXISTENT :

Pierre,

I see that Jorge Moreira managed to answer your question about vty passwords
on the Cisco Catalyst 1900 series switch.  What threw me (and Rik as well)
was your inclusion of "XL" after 1912--the Cisco Catalyst 1912 (and 1924)
switches are not part of the XL series.  I needed a few minutes to make sure
that Cisco hadn't come out with a new XL series switch for which I was
unaware before I re-responded to your query.

As you've discovered, Jorge is correct--it's the "enable" password on the
Catalyst 1900 series switch that is used to enable telnet access.  But since
we're discussing password usage on the 1900 series... here's a bit of a
brainteaser for you, the answer for which I had included in last month's
CCNA LAN Switching paper on CertificationZone:

You'll notice that when you access your Catalyst switch via the console
port, that without issuing any sort of password, you're immediately able to
access several commands on the switch -- you've immediately got access to
"user mode".  In some organizations, this can present a security risk.  Can
you set a "user-mode" password for the Catalyst 1900 series switch?  If so,
how?


  -- Leigh Anne



-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 13, 2001 12:39 PM
To: Dale Cunningham; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MORE TECHNICAL DETAILS ON PROBLEM SOLVED: VTY LINES NON
EXISTENT :


Hi all,

Technically speaking, there is no such thing as a console password on
version 9.00.04. of the catalyst 1912XL-EN. Although it is called a console
password, it is really an enable password. Following are the steps that
demonstrate this:

1) Erase nvram to start "fresh"
2) Type P to set the console password to cisco
3) Press K to enter the command line mode. You will be in enable mode
WITHOUT any prompt for a password.
4) Now try to enter enable mode. You are required to enter a password.
(cisco)
5) Go to config mode, set the enable password to demo, then exit
6) The next time you try to access the exec mode, the password that will let
you in will be demo, NOT cisco. This proves that the console password is
really an enable password.

Trying to understand why the user mode is unprotected (no console
password -strictly speaking)  I typed ? at the user mode. This is what I
got:

>?
Exec commands:
  enableTurn on privileged commands
  exit  Exit from the EXEC
  help  Description of the interactive help system
  ping  Send echo messages
  session   Tunnel to module
  show  Show running system information
  terminal  Set terminal line par

Security Reject Count: command?

2001-02-15 Thread Pierre-Alex

On a 1900, "the security reject count collumn of the Switch manager displays
the number of unauthorized addresses seen on the secure port." (Cisco)

Is it possible to get this information from the command line?

Pierre-Alex


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Re: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Lauren Child



Kelly D Griffin wrote:
> 
> Perhaps they would like to respond back to this gentleman's e-mail in
> Swahili.  Let's see if they can still walk with the shoe on the other foot.
> 

Language is irellevent - I thought his English was very good
personally.  It was posted to give people a laugh and provoke
conversation over how someone can get certs like that and a) not know
how to use a search engine.  I was also indignant at the traditional AOL
launch style "I bought the internet and so everyone on it is there for
my support" attitude of it.  

Theres a difference between asking in a forum for help and privmailing
expecting someone to run around and work their butt of like a helpdesk -
I do enough of that in the day without finding it in my inbox when I get
home.

If I was looking for a job in India, and could speak swahili, Id use  an
appropriate search engine and ask on a forum.  If people get the idea
its OK to privmail questions like that, then every person who wants the
same info will do the same, and Ill become the search engine, assuming
my mailbox isnt full.

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Back to the point/ontopic Re: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Lauren Child

OK.  Whether people found it funny isnt really on topic.  What I was
aiming to do was povoke a discussion on how people fely about this
stuff.

How do people feel if 

a) their cisco certified status is used to declare open season for
anyone wanting a job in their area reslulting in emails like that one
filling up your inbox

b) people are gaining certifications and applying for jobs in their
field when they havent grasped rudimentary internet skills.

TTFN
Lauren CCNP-ATM, CCDP certified.

aka

Lauren, Free career advice, feel free to grab my email from usenet and
use me to save you a few minutes of your precious time.

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RE: Tragedy of the Commons (was Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>I read a bit of callousness in Lauren's approach,
>but I agree with the general idea Lauren proposes.
>I have sent out similar emails to people who waste
>my time, instead of doing a bit of research.  I also
>oppose the use of "shorthand" english in public emails.
>It is offputting, so I tend to ignore those people
>entirely.

I, too, have a real problem with 3l33t d00dz and the like--whether 
it's meant to be the private language of an in-group (i.e., the 
previous example being Elite Dudes) or simply a way of avoiding 
typing.  Believe me, I know there's a value for cryptic typing in 
bandwidth-constrained interactions such as telecommunications devices 
for the deaf (TDD), or old-style UNIX chat on machines with 300 bps 
connections. But the "shorthand" in no way improves readability, and, 
in my perhaps crotchety view, sends a message that the typist's time 
is more valuable than that of the reader.  As the reader, that leaves 
me less than enchanted.

>
>But, Howard, aren't you being a little too cryptic?
>The commons obviously is the listserv.  But who are
>putting too many sheep out?  Lauren (and me, I guess,
>by association  with that point of view), or all the
>others who criticize?
>
>Or both sides?  I agree, it is time to end this thread.


Baa, humbug, he said, sheepishly.


>
>Ray Mosely
>CCNA, MCSE
>
>BTW, Howard, our first communiques ended up with you
>bashing me.  Thank you, sincerely, because I was humbled.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Howard C. Berkowitz
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:55 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Tragedy of the Commons (was Thought youd enjoy this
>
>
>There's a basic concept in economic theory called the "tragedy of the
>commons."  The commons, in this case, was a shared pasture in which
>the village livestock could graze.  As long as the number of cattle
>fit the basic needs of each family, the commons provided enough
>grazing land for all.
>
>But less cooperative people decided that they could increase their
>personal profits by having more cows and sheep.  Nothing wrong with
>that -- except the also expected to pasture them on the common land,
>rather than set up private pastures for private herds and flocks.
>
>The commons, however, had just so much capacity, and, when it was
>overgrazed by the additional beasts, the grass could no longer
>recover, and the entire resource died.  Nothing could graze any
>longer.
>
>Information based on people's time is a modern version.  It takes
>time to scan a list for irrelevant messages, especially when people
>don't use informative subject headings. Outside North America, there
>is often a monetary cost to downloading more and more material that
>may not be of interest.
>
>So yes -- when people ask questions that could be answered with
>reasonable use of a search engine, I get a bit annoyed.  CCO, I
>realize, can be uncooperative, and I am sympathetic to people who say
>"I tried to find this on CCO but didn't get anything useful."
>
>There is no question that I'm usually rude to telemarketers.
>Sometimes, they whine that they won't take much of my time. But I
>really try to create a hostile work environment for telemarketers,
>because if encouraged, they will waste so much of my time that I
>won't be able to earn money to buy their products.
>
>Hopefully, my parable may convey something about effective and fair
>use of lists.
>
>>Lauren Child wrote,
>
>
>
>>"Roberts, Timothy" wrote:
>>   >
>>>   Obviously english is not this persons first language.  Why should this
>>>   person be made fun of because he has not fully mastered it yet?
>>>
>>
>>He shouldnt.  He should be made fun of for having an MCSE and CCNA, and
>>working for CCNP, and not mastering the search engine.
>
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Re: Tragedy of the Commons (was Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Lauren Child



Ray Mosely wrote:
> 
> I read a bit of callousness in Lauren's approach,
> but I agree with the general idea Lauren proposes.
> I have sent out similar emails to people who waste
> my time, instead of doing a bit of research.  I also
> oppose the use of "shorthand" english in public emails.
> It is offputting, so I tend to ignore those people
> entirely.
> 

Thank you, yes I was callous, but I was in a callous mood and am getting
pretty fed up with people grabbing my address of usenet instead of
posting to usenet and keeping the pasture going.  Personally I think I
have the right to get fed up when this is happenning a lot.

Theres a difference between sharing a pasture, and half a dozen sheep
running over and pestering you asking you personally to "please pass the
grass", as they cant be bothered to bend over.

If he'd tried a search engine and/or posted to a group or listserv that
he needed help, then Id have *volunteered* my help, as I have done many
times before.

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ISP/Dial Lab swap

2001-02-15 Thread B Fridie

I am looking to trade my May 23rd ISP-Dial lab date in Halifax for any =
earlier date.  I will accept anything with 10 days notice.  Please =
E-mail me if you are interested.  I also would like to trade my Halifax =
date for a San Jose date if possible.

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Re: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-15 Thread Lauren Child



"Denis A. Baldwin" wrote:
but there are hundreds of times where I looked
> around the cisco site and didn't find anything only to ask the list and have
> an answer within a few minutes.
> 

yup but he didnt search and he didnt ask the list.  If he had Id have
replied sensibly.

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Re: CCIE vs CCNP

2001-02-15 Thread Changchun Xie

The CCIE written test is much more difficult than the CCNP. It covers a lot
of topics that CCNP not.

I passed CCIE written first. The score is not high. After than, I did all 4
CCNP exams within one week and they are quite easy. I did my CCNP just for
changing job. Anyway, CCNP is a certificate and then CCIE qualification exam
not.

You'd better go CCNP first and get good job & opportunities to work on CCIE.

Chan.

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> Is it reasonable to take the CCIE written instead of CCNP? I've been
working
> with Cisco equipment and software for over 10 years and decided to go
ahead
> with certification. The CCNP looks like a good choice, but it appears the
> CCIE written only requires a few more months of study. Of course, the lab
is
> a different story. Has anyone tried this?
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IGRP to EIGRP conversion #2

2001-02-15 Thread Roberts, Timothy


I have a hub site with 5 remote sites connecting to it via frame relay.
They are all running IGRP with the same AS.  What would be the best way to
migrate from IGRP to EIGRP?  Starting by enabling EIGRP on the core router
and run both IGRP and EIGRP.  Then convert the spokes one by one.  Then
remove IGRP from the core.  Can I just enable EIGRP on the remotes, allow
some time to propagate routes in to the table, and then disable IGRP?  The
people up stairs will not allow for any significant down time.  
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Re: adding rights to user mode??? (oops)

2001-02-15 Thread Karen E Young


Mark,

You can use a local security database (Username...) to set up user accounts with the 
privilege levels you want.

Here's some URLs that have info and config samples.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/113ed_cr/secur_c/scprt5/scpasswd.htm
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/dsqcg/qcsecur.htm#xtocid1133722

Hope this helps

Karen

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:Sorry, got mixed up with modes...I meant user...
:
:Hi Group,
:   I wanted to know if it was possible to allow somebody with only
:user level access to a device, to see more than they normally can?
:Basically, when they type the "show ?" command set, is there a way to allow
:them to see more parameters than they normally can? Also, if this is
:possible, would this be the same for everybody that went into the device
:under user mode? Thanks for the help all...
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265x vs 3600 and BGP

2001-02-15 Thread Ben Hockenhull

It looks as if the 2650/2651 might just be the answer to some people's
prayers for a lower end router that's capable of handling several full
views of the BGP tables without springing for a 3640 or a 3660.

The 265x models have one or two fast ether interfaces, and are designated
"high performance", which I suppose means a better processor than the
regular 2600s.

They take up to 128 meg of dram, vs the 64 meg cap on the 2600s and the
3620.  Cheaper base price than the cost of a 3640 even before factoring in
the cost of an NM for LAN connectivity that's needed for the 3600.

If you get the 2651, you have that second 10/100 ether, which could be
used for a DMZ subnet for public-access machines.

128 meg of dram should be enough for 3-4 views of a 90k prefix BGP table,
and the processor ought to be up to the task.

Thoughts on this?  Granted, with a lower end router, you lose out on some
of the high-availability features of a 3660 or better, such as OIR and
redundant power supplies, but RPS options also exist for the 2600.

Does anyone know how the 3600 processors stack up against the 265x
processor?  For the majority of us who would purchase an ethernet
interface for a 3620 anyway, it seems like there's little reason to look
at the 3620 anymore at all.

Ben

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