Re: Opinions: ATM or FR for VoIP? [7:21948]
I would go ATM, due to transport architecture and reliability, especially with voice... John Neiberger wrote: Just a quick opinion poll for those of you who have implemented VoIP. Given a medium-sized partially-meshed network, would you prefer to use ATM or Frame Relay for your transport? Assume that most locations would have DS1 speeds only. I ask this because I've been hearing a mixture of opinions. It seems to me that ATM would allow us to utilize its CoS. With FR you don't have much control over your traffic beyond FRTS and LLQ. Once it hits the cloud you're at its mercy. However, I haven't heard any details yet but apparently someone at Cisco thinks that ATM has some scalability problems that FR doesn't have. I can't imagine what that would be so it will be interesting to hear what he has to say. I'd be surprised if he suggests FR instead of ATM. Right now, we have a large frame relay network but I'm seriously considering migrating portions of it to ATM. After hearing these conflicting opinions I'm really not sure which path to take. Any thoughts? Thanks, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22003t=21948 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CLNS [7:22004]
I'm new to CLNS protocol. I'm confused on Network Entity Title (NET). I see some example use 39 and some use 47 as the Authority and Format Identifier (AFI) in NET. Anyone can help to advice or guide further on the addressing if I'm planning for mesh network setup using CLNS protocol. ___ Visit http://www.visto.com. Find out how companies are linking mobile users to the enterprise with Visto. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22004t=22004 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: The most powerful Unix command EVER!!! (3rd trail!!!) [7:22006]
Hows about just dropping the anthrax virus on the root! Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Hee hee. That's very funny. I'm going to ask a dumb question though. I know what rm does. What does rm -rf do? Often e-mails to the group with URLs in them get filtered. I'm not sure why. It happens especially with short e-mails when the URL is near the top. You just have to be patient and persistent. Priscilla At 11:14 PM 10/2/01, Albert Y. Pak wrote: Hi guys, I am having problems send this link out earlier... Sorry about that. Don't know who I should talk to about this. This happened to me a few times just to send out the email to this group. :-/ One last try! http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/apparel/57b2.shtml Albert Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22006t=22006 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written passed, - Jin Jung [7:21874]
prey! and of course devote a lot of your time to practice. Jin Jung wrote: Hey folks, I have passed CCIE written, One down one to go I like to thank all the group members who helped me out. Now on to the LAB, Any tips or recommendation is appreciated. Also , I am looking for some more router and switched - Cisco of course- IF anyone out there have some cheep router and switches that you like to sell, Please let me know. Jin Jung CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNE, CCIE written passed, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22007t=21874 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IP Routing Examples Book (For CCIE LAB) [7:22008]
Hi Everyone, does any body know good books that gives only configuration examples on all topics that are covered in the CCIE LAB exams (configuration scenarios like the ones that found in the CCIE LAB exams, no/few theoritical view) Regards Ashraf Syatems Engineer CCNP Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22008t=22008 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID - WAN switching design resource [7:21810]
Dear List, I've taken the exam. Seems like you all are right, perhaps I'm too freak out on the WAN switching stuff. It turned out to be very ok. I thank you for all your support and resource sharing on this list. One question though, is CCIE written very much different compared to CID, I got a feeling that CID covered a much more broad issue. Cheers Donny From: Rik Guyler Reply-To: Rik Guyler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID - WAN switching design resource [7:21810] Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 19:08:01 -0400 Check the archives on www.groupstudy.com Some time ago, Chuck Larrieu posted a CCO link for the Stratacom stuff you might need. Rik -Original Message- From: Donny Mateo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID - WAN switching design resource [7:21810] Dear List, I'm taking my CID tomorrow, and still feel a bit uncomfortable with the WAN switching stuff (IGX, MGX, BPX). Can anybody pin point me on the resource that I can use to learn design consideration on this stuff ? tia Donny _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22009t=21810 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tftp server download bombed!! [7:21975]
the command is: boot system image ip not boot system tftp image ip At 04:34 04.10.2001, Cisco Nuts wrote: Hello, Just configured a 2501 router as a tftp server with the command: # tftp-server flash:c2500-ins-l.120.bin 10 # access-list 10 permit 172.16.12.0 Can ping to the client router at 172.16.12.2 On the client router configed the following: # no boot system # boot system tftp c2500-ins-l.120.bin 172.16.12.1 # boot system rom # config-register 0x010F # end # wr # reload When ther router reboots, I get the following error msg. %SYS-4-CONFIG_NEWER: Configurations from version 11.3 may not be correctly understood. Loading c2500-ins-l.120-19.bin [File not found] Flash boot: File 'c2500-d-l.113-11a.bin' open failed. Sleeping for 2 secs before next netboot attempt Loading c2500-ins-l.120-19.bin [File not found] And then the router finally boots to a R1-Moritz(boot) prompt. Can someone help out? Please advise. Thank you. Kind regards. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22011t=21975 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
swap CCIE LAB date [7:22013]
Hello all, I have a date for the CCIE lab (February 18, 2002 at Brussels) which i would like to move to the end of October 2001. If interested please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take care, Pan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22013t=22013 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Jargon Dictionary [7:21964]
The jargon file has been updated. Version 4.3.1 (and other information, although without the search engine) can be found at http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/index.html JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 04/10/2001 05:45 pm - Tom Lisa cc: Sent by: Subject: OT: Jargon Dictionary [7:21964] [EMAIL PROTECTED] om 04/10/2001 11:15 am Please respond to Tom Lisa While trying to find a good definition of what a Magic Number is (CCO was useless, many hits on where why used, but none on a concise definition on what it was.) I found this site using Google. http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/ It is in the Netherlands of all places, but seems to be pretty good. With it I was able to grok (check dictionary to see what that means) what a magic number is. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22014t=21964 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ospf and dual-homed not recommended [7:22015]
Guys, I was configuring and testing a BGP lab which was dual-homed. For some reason I decided to use the same physical lay-out and introduce Ospf. R4R1---(s0)-bbr1 | || | ofpf 1 || | || | area 0 | ospf area 999 | || R4-R3 | | | | | |(s1)- bbr2 I understand that this is never done in real life environment and also not recommended as it can lead to lots of issues, such as routing loops and unstable network. Can someone please help me clear the misunderataning or perhaps enlighten me with a brief explanation, outlining any issues or reasons and their possible solutions. In other words looking at the pro's and con's of such a configuration. Thanks in Advance. Vijay Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22015t=22015 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ospf and dual-homed not recommended [7:22016]
Guys, I was configuring and testing a BGP lab which was dual-homed. For some reason I decided to use the same physical lay-out and introduce Ospf. R4R1---(s0)-bbr1 || ofpf 1 || || area 0 | ospf area 999 || R3---R3 | | | | | |(s1)- bbr2 I understand that this is never done in real life environment and also not recommended as it can lead to lots of issues, such as routing loops and unstable network. Can someone please help me clear the misunderataning or perhaps enlighten me with a brief explanation, outlining any issues or reasons and their possible solutions. In other words looking at the pro's and con's of such a configuration. Thanks in Advance. Vijay Second attemp to see if the graphics behave themselves... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22016t=22016 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Calls from Pots? [7:21738]
Mike's correct, I'm sure you need digital modems to allow an ISDN interface to access analogue calls, as in an access server. regards Mike Sweeney wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Dont you need digital modems for the for the ISDN circuit to carry the voice(pots) connection? IE.. PRI configured to use both ISDN and POTS has a digital modem card for the conversion. I would imagine that a BRI line needs the same type of conversion.. ie.. VoIP.. Here is one link that talks about it.. but it's noted that DoV lines can be corrupted since not all ISDN switches cna handle this properly.. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/793/access_dial/8.html Anyone else that can add to this.. please do!!! MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22018t=21738 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does CCIE written still have lots of Cisco command [7:22019]
I'll break the NDA --- nah, don't bother studying the Cisco commands for the CCIE written...you won't need them.. I promise. (my middle name is Joe Isuzu) geez I'm cruel tonight, wonder if it has anything to do with me running out of gas on the freeway for the first time in 20 years? -e- who never met an IOS command he didn't like (except for debug ipx packet) - Original Message - From: Brad Ellis To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 10:58 PM Subject: Re: Does CCIE written still have lots of Cisco command [7:21999] Sean, I usually dont answer these types of questions nor post sarcasm on this newsgroup. However, I am going to make an exception for you. a) Anyone actually answering your question would be breaking the NDA b) If you're taking the CCIE RS written and you dont know Cisco commands, you're in trouble c) Go read Caslow and Halabi, that would be a really good start for you d) Visit: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html e) I heard they are removing the Cisco commands and replacing them with Lucent Definity PBX commands -Brad Sean Wu wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... just wonder, I think it might be testing more on theory instead of detailed command. Any ideas? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22019t=22019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pix Firewall [7:21924]
CSPFA is now at version 2.0. If you are preparing for the exam, you may want to make sure the CBTs cover the new topics included in version 2.0 cheekin - Original Message - From: Robertson, Douglas To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 04:47 Subject: RE: Pix Firewall [7:21924] Cisco have two CBT's in the Learning Store that you can purchase, I think they cost around $550-00 for the two. I am just starting to review them now so I can not say how good they are, but I got the recommendations from this list some time ago. Log on to Cisco CCO then go to certifications, then go to Cisco Learning Store, click on shop all items and then search for PIX this will give two results. Cisco Secure PIX Firewall Advanced (CSPFA)1.0 Cisco Secure PIX Firewall Fundamentals (CSPFF) 1.1 Doug -Original Message- From: Guy Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pix Firewall [7:21924] I have been hitting every bookstore, looking for PIX books... I would like to get training guides, or admin guides, or whatever is available,... Anything out there anyone could recommend, and where to get it? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22020t=21924 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VPN [7:22022]
Dear All Can anyone suggest where i can find information on VPN. Any suggested link for reading ? 10Q Regards Kok Wah Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22022t=22022 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OSPF-Doyle Vol 1 pp 531-533 [7:22021]
Okay, I gotta figure that something is wrong, but I don't get 172.19.35.0 advertised at Rubens unless I keep the secondary address on Matisse as an OSPF network. It also shows the route as IA, not E2, indicating it's an OSPF route, and I sure don't get the mask mismatch problem, as it's subnetted as a /25, not as a /16. Anyone else have the same result? Can anyone explain it? Is there something rotten in Denmark? (besides linburger cheese?) Maybe someone snuck the network stmt for 172.19.35.0 into ospf 40 when he wasn't looking? Or does this constitute errata? (it's not in the existing errata sheet) thanks -e- (being onery tonight) May the route be with you Switch if you must, route if you can ;-) http://members.home.net/airwrck ..and this one, just for Peter... 'Routing between VLANS' is a valid statement Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22021t=22021 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MTU effect [7:22023]
what is the effect of lowering MTU on the throughput and on packets Best Regards, Mohamed Saro Network Engineer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22023t=22023 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VPN [7:22022]
Here is the link. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/index.shtml Thanks and warm regards. Muhammad Tariq -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of birdy Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:VPN [7:22022] Dear All Can anyone suggest where i can find information on VPN. Any suggested link for reading ? 10Q Regards Kok Wah Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22024t=22022 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multicast Flooding [7:22025]
Any one have an idea on how to suppress multicast flooding on a 2948G-L3. The switch is configured with 3 bridge groups, and 3 bvi interfaces. The problem is that multicast packets are flooded throughout the bridge group the multicast server is connected to. Below is a snippet of the running config: ip multicast-routing ip dvmrp route-limit 2 bridge irb ! int f1 no ip address bridge-group 2 ! int f2 no ip address bridge-group 2 ! int f3 no ip address bridge-group 3 ! int bvi 2 ip add 10.10.20.1 255.255.255.0 ip pim sparse-dense-mode ! int bvi 3 ip add 10.10.30.1 255.255.255.0 ip pim sparse-dense-mode ! bridge cmf bridge 2 proto ieee bridge 2 route ip bridge 3 proto ieee bridge 3 route ip etc Software version is: cat2948g-in-mz.120-14.W5.20.bin CGMP is not supported on the bvi interface (at least not with this software release). CMF (Constrained Multicast Flooding) should do the trick, but doesn't appear to be working as expected. The flooding happens regardless of whether or not any host registers interest in receiving the multicast group. Multicast routing is working fine, and only registered hosts receive the multicast traffic, i.e flooding does not occur on the bridge group that the multicast server is not connected to. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. CM Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22025t=22025 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP route [7:21989]
Try turning off synchronization - no sync in the router bgp config. CM - Original Message - From: Daniel Ma To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 5:02 AM Subject: BGP route [7:21989] One of my customer uses Ethernet0/0, instead of Loopback as update source. (See following sample configuration) interface Ethernet0/0 ip address 200.110.60.1 255.255.255.0 router bgp 12345 bgp log-neighbor-changes network 200.110.60.0 neighbor 144.200.200.239 remote-as 1234 neighbor 144.200.200.239 ebgp-multihop 2 neighbor 144.200.200.239 update-source Ethernet0/0 ip route 144.200.200.239 255.255.255.255 Serial1/0 However, ISP thought it's loopback address, so in their configuration, they has a static route: ip route 200.110.60.1 255.255.255.255 Serial 4/1 However, internet users could ping to the router, but could not access servers which in the same subnet of Ethernet 0/0. For example, 200.110.60.2 Apparently, the network 200.110.60.0 was not advertised by BGP. Could anyone tell me why, and give some suggestion? Temporally, we asked ISP change the static route to: ip route 200.110.60.0 255.255.255.0 Serial 4/1 It's working now. But BGP should be able to advertise the route, am I right? So what's the problem here? Thanks, Daniel Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22026t=21989 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
console break key [7:22027]
Hey guys, I am sure many would done thisplease help me I have connected my SUN SYSTEM serial port A to the laptop serial port and am using hyper terminal for console login.I get console login screen and boot up messages.Everything works fine..I am able to login. My question how do I emulate the stop + A key on the hyper terminal? OR how do I get the OK prompt (if need to boot via cdrom) cheers Ramesh Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S. http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22027t=22027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP route [7:21989]
Thanks Charles, Should I just turn off synchronization on my site only? Or ISP site the BGP peer also need to turn off? Daniel Charles Manafa wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Try turning off synchronization - no sync in the router bgp config. CM - Original Message - From: Daniel Ma To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 5:02 AM Subject: BGP route [7:21989] One of my customer uses Ethernet0/0, instead of Loopback as update source. (See following sample configuration) interface Ethernet0/0 ip address 200.110.60.1 255.255.255.0 router bgp 12345 bgp log-neighbor-changes network 200.110.60.0 neighbor 144.200.200.239 remote-as 1234 neighbor 144.200.200.239 ebgp-multihop 2 neighbor 144.200.200.239 update-source Ethernet0/0 ip route 144.200.200.239 255.255.255.255 Serial1/0 However, ISP thought it's loopback address, so in their configuration, they has a static route: ip route 200.110.60.1 255.255.255.255 Serial 4/1 However, internet users could ping to the router, but could not access servers which in the same subnet of Ethernet 0/0. For example, 200.110.60.2 Apparently, the network 200.110.60.0 was not advertised by BGP. Could anyone tell me why, and give some suggestion? Temporally, we asked ISP change the static route to: ip route 200.110.60.0 255.255.255.0 Serial 4/1 It's working now. But BGP should be able to advertise the route, am I right? So what's the problem here? Thanks, Daniel Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22028t=21989 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
anthonypanda.com [7:22029]
A few days ago a couple people posted the URL: http://www.anthonypanda.com/ . I was wondering if anybody has actually bought stuff from him? What did you think of the product, and the service? What was the shipping like? He's in Hong Kong, and I don't want to wait a long time, since I want to complete my lab and start doing some experiments. Looking at his website, I see that his prices are significantly better then kg2.com. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22029t=22029 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CAN NOT PING TO ITSELF ON BRI [7:22030]
Helo all, I configure my router BRI on r1 with: interface BRI0/0 ip address 122.5.12.1 255.255.255.252 ip directed-broadcast encapsulation ppp no ip mroute-cache dialer idle-timeout 60 dialer map ip 122.6.12.2 name r2 broadcast 456789 dialer load-threshold 128 outbound dialer-group 1 isdn switch-type basic-5ess ppp authentication chap ppp chap hostname rack01 ppp chap password cisco ppp multilink and r2: interface BRI0/0 ip address 122.6.12.2 255.255.255.252 ip directed-broadcast encapsulation ppp dialer map ip 122.6.12.1 name rack01 broadcast dialer-group 1 isdn switch-type basic-5ess no peer neighbor-route ppp authentication chap ppp multilink end But from r1 I can only ping to r2 BRI interface, I can't ping to r1 BRI0/0 (itself) any clue, tx, Grad _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22030t=22030 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP route [7:21989]
Daniel, You only need to turn it off on your site only. CM - Original Message - From: Daniel Ma To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:56 PM Subject: Re: BGP route [7:21989] Thanks Charles, Should I just turn off synchronization on my site only? Or ISP site the BGP peer also need to turn off? Daniel Charles Manafa wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Try turning off synchronization - no sync in the router bgp config. CM - Original Message - From: Daniel Ma To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 5:02 AM Subject: BGP route [7:21989] One of my customer uses Ethernet0/0, instead of Loopback as update source. (See following sample configuration) interface Ethernet0/0 ip address 200.110.60.1 255.255.255.0 router bgp 12345 bgp log-neighbor-changes network 200.110.60.0 neighbor 144.200.200.239 remote-as 1234 neighbor 144.200.200.239 ebgp-multihop 2 neighbor 144.200.200.239 update-source Ethernet0/0 ip route 144.200.200.239 255.255.255.255 Serial1/0 However, ISP thought it's loopback address, so in their configuration, they has a static route: ip route 200.110.60.1 255.255.255.255 Serial 4/1 However, internet users could ping to the router, but could not access servers which in the same subnet of Ethernet 0/0. For example, 200.110.60.2 Apparently, the network 200.110.60.0 was not advertised by BGP. Could anyone tell me why, and give some suggestion? Temporally, we asked ISP change the static route to: ip route 200.110.60.0 255.255.255.0 Serial 4/1 It's working now. But BGP should be able to advertise the route, am I right? So what's the problem here? Thanks, Daniel Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22031t=21989 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Access Server config [7:21877]
First of all I am using it to console in to the phone switch not a modem. Second how would I set the speed to 2400. Access server has its own line speed different from baud rate. Like for expample 9600 would be equal to 38400 on access server? I found that on Cisco's web site. Thanks, Alex Andy Hoang wrote: If it says open then it works. Can you issue some modem commands? Try ATZ. The modem should respond with an OK. You can set the access server run at speed 2400. Is your cable correct? The modem is DCE and your access server async line is DTE. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of khramov Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Access Server config [7:21877] Nope there are no passwords, I've got it to the point where I telnet into async 1 port and it opens it up, but nothing comes on the screesn, It just says open. I think there might be a speed mismatch issue, device that is attached to it runs at 2400 and I do no think that you can set access server to run at the speed lower then 9600. So if anyone has any ideas please help. Here is the config: interface Ethernet0 ip address 192.168.190.25 255.255.255.0 no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache ! interface Serial0 no ip address no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache shutdown ! interface Serial1 no ip address no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache shutdown ! interface Async1 no ip address async mode dedicated no peer default ip address ! ip default-gateway 192.168.190.2 no ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.190.2 ip route 192.168.78.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.190.2 ! line con 0 line 1 8 no exec modem InOut transport preferred telnet transport input all stopbits 1 speed 38400 line 9 16 line aux 0 Tarak Robbana wrote: Is there a password set on the device your telneting into? Sorry, have to start with the small stuff. [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of khramov.vcf] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of khramov.vcf] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22032t=21877 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVOICE [7:22000]
Passed . Questions about ports on 36xx and 26xx series was hard. best regards, Cisco Breaker wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am taking CVOICE exam in a few hours. Any last minute advice would be appraciated. Best regards, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22033t=22000 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: smartforce training [7:21933]
Hmm.. it's with interest I've read this thread as I own their CCNP training CBT. Overall, it was pretty well done.. better then many of the others I've looked at. The material matches Cisco's own docs pretty well.. no glaring errors that I have found so far. It's gives the information needed to barely pass the test.. you still need to supplement it with some reading AND some practice tests. My one complaint to them so far is their testing is weak. I make no claims about their other training CBTs.. only the CCNP :) MikeS find me at www.packetattack.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22034t=21933 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Network utilization levels... [7:21884]
One thing to keep in mind.. A percentage can lie about network performance. If you take a network with a low percentage of traffic based on byte count but a high number of small packets ( Citrix), you can easily have an overloaded router/switch but without the gross load on the wire you might expect. The overload comes from trying to process all the dinky packets which need to be checked, read, forwarded, folded etc. this really does happen as I just did an analysis on a Citrix server farm of over 30 servers hooked to a rather overloaded router. Fun traces showed up on that. MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22035t=21884 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Fw: Nationwide Toll Free Outage [7:21859]
this has made a fun day along with the fiber cut here in LA- MikeS www.packetattack.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22036t=21859 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off Topic - why would anybody use Amazon? [7:21761]
I use www.bestwebbuys.com ( think I got that right) and nine times out of ten, half.com comes up with a used book for a cheap price.. not always but a high percentage of the time. I'll happily pay 15$ for a used ( maybe) 60$ book :) MikeS www.packetattack.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22037t=21761 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARP question [7:21920]
The customer just told me they couldn't access the server and no hardware changes had been made. I can't see how clearing the ARP brought the server back to life... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22038t=21920 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
questions about queuing [7:22041]
Hi all, I'm searching for information about a question in the CCIE written. I can't really remember but I think there was a question about queuing and any numbers like this: queue-list ??? 1 4500 200 ??? or anything. Did anyone also remember this questions ? Thanks Udo Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22041t=22041 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: The most powerful Unix command EVER!!! (3r [7:21880]
rm -rf is a remove recurrsively (spelling??) HTH Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22039t=21880 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VPN [7:22022]
A good starting point would be: http://www.vpnc.org/ HTH, Kent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of birdy Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VPN [7:22022] Dear All Can anyone suggest where i can find information on VPN. Any suggested link for reading ? 10Q Regards Kok Wah Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22042t=22022 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945]
Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: 1. See Priscilla's response first. 2. Your query wondering about what protocols other than Novell that can use the 802.3 frame makes me wonder if you have misunderstood encapsulation. Novell's encapsulations were developed prior to the IEEE finalizing their standards. They're Novell-proprietary. To illustrate this point, if you set the IPX encapsulation type to be novell-ether and you typed show ipx interface ethernet 0, you'll see novell-ether on the Ethernet 0 interface. However, if you type show interface ethernet 0, you'll see that the encapsulation is ARPA which is different than the IPX encapsulation on that same interface. The reason that show int only displays the IP encapsulation is the same reason that only the IP address (and mask) are displayed, not all layer three addresses -- history. The cisco (sic) product line started out as only an IP router, so all displays and config commands were understood to apply to IP. As bridging and other routed protocols were added, the old commands and displays remained the same for backward compatibility. E.G., the command to change encapsulation for IP is just encapsulation __, not ip encapsulation __. And even before IP really took off, it was needed for managing the routers (Telnet, etc.), even if the overall enterprise had no use for IP. - Marty Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22044t=21945 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARP question [7:21920]
I can't recall the number of times clearing a cache had helped clear a problem. After all router and swithes are computers and a prone to get stupid periodically :-) dave John McCartney wrote: The customer just told me they couldn't access the server and no hardware changes had been made. I can't see how clearing the ARP brought the server back to life... -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22047t=21920 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To Multiplex n X 64 Kpbs ckts and terminating on the Router( [7:22046]
Hello , Secenario : To Multiplex n X 64 Kpbs ckts and terminating on the router( Channelized PRI Port) Instead of having the ckts terminated on Copper Pair the leased ckts should be terminated on a 2Mbps stream(1 stream of STM-1 OFC equippment) ) which is then connected to a channelized PRI port of 3660 router. A multiplexer is being placed at the TELCO to multiplex the n X64 Kbps ckts FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To Multiplex n X 64 Kpbs ckts and terminating on the Router( [7:22049]
Hello , Secnario : To Multiplex n X 64 Kpbs ckts and terminating on the outer( Channelized PRI Port) Instead of having the ckts terminated on Copper Pair the leased ckts should be terminated on a 2Mbps stream(1 stream of STM-1 OFC equippment) ) which is then connected to a channelized PRI port of 3660 router. A multiplexer is being placed at the TELCO to multiplex the n X64 Kbps ckts Here is my question now :--- After placing the multiplexer at the TELCO , do i have to place another multiplexer at my end too ? Or i can directly terminate the o/p of the multiplexer, coming on the 2Mbps stream , to the channelized port of the 3660 Router ? Pls let me know abt the same. Thanks Vijendra. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22049t=22049 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
adsl wic [7:22048]
Anybody have a sample config for the adsl wic connecting to Pacbell DSL? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22048t=22048 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IS-IS commands?? [7:21957]
Sounds like you don't have support for IS-IS in your IOS feature set. I don't remember exactly which set contains it, but I think that enterprise does. Cisco Nuts wrote: Hi, I am trying to configure IS-IS on a 2501 router and am running into problems. When I type # passive-interface lo0 under router isis, I get a %invalid command if CLNS-only. When I type #net 49.0001.1720.1600.1001.00 under router isis, I get an invalid input detected at '^' marker. I get the same error msg. when I type the command # ip router isis under int e0. Are these errors becoz' I am running ver.11.3.(11a) and the ip-ipx feature set? Please advise. Thank you. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22051t=21957 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intro and a question [7:22053]
Hi everyone :) My name is Dave Penner and as you can tell I'm new to this list. I'm currently working on my CCNP and look foreward to expanding my networking knowledge. Now onto the question part. I'm looking for some general information about PPPoE. I need it to do some router configuration at work. I need some general information.. nothing platform specific yet.. any ideas where to go. Thanks much. David C. Penner System Test Specialist, CCNA SPIRENT Communications of Rockville Inc. 15200 Omega Drive Rockville, MD 20850-3240 USA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22053t=22053 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does CCIE written still have lots of Cisco command [7:22052]
At 10:58 PM 10/3/2001, Brad Ellis wrote: e) I heard they are removing the Cisco commands and replacing them with Lucent Definity PBX commands Sweet! I got more parts for them than I do my routers. I think I even have a spare or two. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22052t=22052 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945]
I'm confused by what you've said. If you do a show interface, you don't see the IP address and mask--but you do see the encapsulation type. If you issue the show ip interface command, you do see the IP address and subnet mask, but you don't see the encapsulation type. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marty Adkins Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: 1. See Priscilla's response first. 2. Your query wondering about what protocols other than Novell that can use the 802.3 frame makes me wonder if you have misunderstood encapsulation. Novell's encapsulations were developed prior to the IEEE finalizing their standards. They're Novell-proprietary. To illustrate this point, if you set the IPX encapsulation type to be novell-ether and you typed show ipx interface ethernet 0, you'll see novell-ether on the Ethernet 0 interface. However, if you type show interface ethernet 0, you'll see that the encapsulation is ARPA which is different than the IPX encapsulation on that same interface. The reason that show int only displays the IP encapsulation is the same reason that only the IP address (and mask) are displayed, not all layer three addresses -- history. The cisco (sic) product line started out as only an IP router, so all displays and config commands were understood to apply to IP. As bridging and other routed protocols were added, the old commands and displays remained the same for backward compatibility. E.G., the command to change encapsulation for IP is just encapsulation __, not ip encapsulation __. And even before IP really took off, it was needed for managing the routers (Telnet, etc.), even if the overall enterprise had no use for IP. - Marty Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22054t=21945 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opinions: ATM or FR for VoIP? [7:21948]
hmmm that is interesting... Even with ATM's overhead? Is there that much more reliabillity? (I'm never done voice over either) Is reliabillity the only advantage? And why is it more reliable? Do you mean with packet/cell loss or uptime from the provider? -Patrick George Murphy CCNP, CCDP 10/04/01 02:17AM I would go ATM, due to transport architecture and reliability, especially with voice... John Neiberger wrote: Just a quick opinion poll for those of you who have implemented VoIP. Given a medium-sized partially-meshed network, would you prefer to use ATM or Frame Relay for your transport? Assume that most locations would have DS1 speeds only. I ask this because I've been hearing a mixture of opinions. It seems to me that ATM would allow us to utilize its CoS. With FR you don't have much control over your traffic beyond FRTS and LLQ. Once it hits the cloud you're at its mercy. However, I haven't heard any details yet but apparently someone at Cisco thinks that ATM has some scalability problems that FR doesn't have. I can't imagine what that would be so it will be interesting to hear what he has to say. I'd be surprised if he suggests FR instead of ATM. Right now, we have a large frame relay network but I'm seriously considering migrating portions of it to ATM. After hearing these conflicting opinions I'm really not sure which path to take. Any thoughts? Thanks, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22055t=21948 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IS-IS commands?? [7:21957]
config ISIS XXX(config)#router isis this command must be added to enable ISIS routing Curtis Call Sounds like you don't have support for IS-IS in your IOS feature set. I don't remember exactly which set contains it, but I think that enterprise does. Cisco Nuts wrote: Hi, I am trying to configure IS-IS on a 2501 router and am running into problems. When I type # passive-interface lo0 under router isis, I get a %invalid command if CLNS-only. When I type #net 49.0001.1720.1600.1001.00 under router isis, I get an invalid input detected at '^' marker. I get the same error msg. when I type the command # ip router isis under int e0. Are these errors becoz' I am running ver.11.3.(11a) and the ip-ipx feature set? Please advise. Thank you. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22056t=21957 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Traffic Shaping [7:21991]
I've had odd results implementing FRTS, as well. I've been told by a Cisco engineer that it helps to reload the router after applying or changing FRTS commands. I don't know if it's necessary but he said it makes things work a little better. I haven't noticed a difference but perhaps it's worth a try. John Thomas N. 10/3/01 10:11:15 PM Hi All, I implemeted the Traffic Shaping using map-class and assigned to subinterfaces. The PVCs sharing that physical interfaces however increase in reply time and eventually timeout. What did I do wrong? When I tried General Traffic Shaping, it worked with traffic-shape rate and traffic-shape adaptive commands. The reason I would like to implement Traffic Shaping with map-class because I would like to apply Frame-Relay fragmentation into some PVC to reduce delay time... Any idea why Traffic Shaping with map-class timeouts my PVCs? Thanks All! Thomas N. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22057t=21991 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945]
I'm not sure, but I think we're talking semantics here. I think what you're referring to is that the Ethernet types you reference for Novell are based on standards... but if I remember my Novell history correctly, Novell's encapsulation types aren't the standards as we know them. For example, Novell guessed at what the standard was going to be for 802.3 and missed. Novell's 802.3 had scalability issues and as such, had to create 802.2. Now 802.2 by itself isn't an encapsulation type in the IEEE world now is it? And that's what I mean when I say that they're proprietary--they're Novell's own design and naming structure. I don't remember enough about SAP or SNAP to comment at this point... All my Novell courseware manuals are at home and I'm not. -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] At 09:39 PM 10/3/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: 1. See Priscilla's response first. 2. Your query wondering about what protocols other than Novell that can use the 802.3 frame makes me wonder if you have misunderstood encapsulation. Novell's encapsulations were developed prior to the IEEE finalizing their standards. They're Novell-proprietary. I understand your point, but, actually only Novell raw is proprietary. The other options for Novell encapsulation are all standard. ETHERNET_II, aka arpa, Ethernet V.2 and Ethernet II, is standard. ETHERNET_802.2, aka sap, and 802.3 with 802.2, is standard. ETHERNET_SNAP, aka snap, and 802.3 with 802.2 and SNAP, is standard. To illustrate this point, if you set the IPX encapsulation type to be novell-ether and you typed show ipx interface ethernet 0, you'll see novell-ether on the Ethernet 0 interface. However, if you type show interface ethernet 0, you'll see that the encapsulation is ARPA which is different than the IPX encapsulation on that same interface. I would say that's a bug (limitation) with show int. IP uses ARPA, which is Cisco's ridiculous term for Ethernet II. Other encapsulations are used for other protocols. The show int probably just shouldn't show the encapsulation if it's not going to be more specific. Priscilla -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lists Wizard Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] Hi Group, I am checking on the what the Certification Zone CD is saying about 802.3 ethernet frames. Here is what they say: Novell 802.3 raw frames do not use 802.2, so they do not have a protocol identifier. In practice, encapsulated IPX frames do have an hexadecimal FF in the first byte, so the protocol can be identified. my questions are: What protocols other than novell can use the 802.3 frame? How are they identified within the frame header? Any comments are welcomed Thanks Lists Wizard Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22059t=21945 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Route-maps on an MSM [7:22058]
I have a 6509 with an MSM installed and have configured virtual interfaces for inter-vlan routing. I have created a route-map on the MSM but can not apply it to any interface. When I type the command ip policy route-map in interface configuration mode, the command is unrecognized: MSM(config)#int port-ch 1.3 MSM(config-subif)#ip ? Interface IP configuration subcommands: access-groupSpecify access control for packets accounting Enable IP accounting on this interface address Set the IP address of an interface authentication authentication subcommands bandwidth-percent Set EIGRP bandwidth limit broadcast-address Set the broadcast address of an interface cgmpEnable/disable CGMP directed-broadcast Enable forwarding of directed broadcasts dvmrp DVMRP interface commands hello-interval Configures IP-EIGRP hello interval helper-address Specify a destination address for UDP broadcasts hold-time Configures IP-EIGRP hold time igmpIGMP interface commands irdpICMP Router Discovery Protocol load-sharingStyle of load sharing mask-reply Enable sending ICMP Mask Reply messages mobile Mobile Host Protocol mroute-cacheEnable switching cache for incoming multicast packets mtu Set IP Maximum Transmission Unit multicast IP multicast interface commands ospfOSPF interface commands pim PIM interface commands probe Enable HP Probe support proxy-arp Enable proxy ARP rarp-server Enable RARP server for static arp entries redirects Enable sending ICMP Redirect messages rip Router Information Protocol route-cache Enable fast-switching cache for outgoing packets sdr Session Directory Protocol interface commands securityDDN IP Security Option split-horizon Perform split horizon summary-address Perform address summarization unnumbered Enable IP processing without an explicit address unreachablesEnable sending ICMP Unreachable messages verify Enable per packet validation MSM(config-subif)#ip policy route-map cwvpn ? % Unrecognized command Are rout-maps not possible on an MSM? Am I missing something? Any help would be much appreciated! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22058t=22058 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVOICE [7:22000]
Congrats, what sort of questions did you get? I've been thinking of taking the voice exam for sometime but haven't because I thought the exams are only for Cisco partners and I'm working for a end user at the moment. Regards Patrick Cisco Breaker wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Passed . Questions about ports on 36xx and 26xx series was hard. best regards, Cisco Breaker wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am taking CVOICE exam in a few hours. Any last minute advice would be appraciated. Best regards, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22062t=22000 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE lab exam scheduling [7:22065]
Hello, Anyone want to get rid of their scheduled spot for the IE lab? Anyone know where people would post this information? Thanks, Tim Booth Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22065t=22065 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945]
At 09:52 AM 10/4/01, Marty Adkins wrote: The reason that show int only displays the IP encapsulation is the same reason that only the IP address (and mask) are displayed, not all layer three addresses -- history. The cisco (sic) product line started out as only an IP router, so all displays and config commands were understood to apply to IP. That makes sense, but I'm wondering about the history... We always hear the story of the Stanford departments needing to talk to each other and I always assumed they had multiprotocol requirements. I do know this much. My husband helped Cisco add AppleTalk in about 1989. It was before they went public, I know that. ;-) As bridging and other routed protocols were added, the old commands and displays remained the same for backward compatibility. E.G., the command to change encapsulation for IP is just encapsulation __, not ip encapsulation __. You can't change the encapsulation for IP. You should try it. We had this discussion before... You can change the encapsulation for ARP. Our theory last time we had this discussion was that most implementations of IP use Ethernet Version II, but a few implementations use SNAP. A Cisco router sends IP frames using the Ethernet Version II frame format, unless it receives IP frames in the SNAP format. If the router sees that a station is using SNAP frames for IP, the router sends SNAP frames. But, before the router can send an IP frame to a destination, it must find the MAC address using ARP. In order to reach a station configured for SNAP, the router must send the ARP using SNAP. Priscilla And even before IP really took off, it was needed for managing the routers (Telnet, etc.), even if the overall enterprise had no use for IP. - Marty Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22063t=21945 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Has anyone failed the CCIE Written? [7:21970]
Twice! I did my first try last year, haven't read all the books recommended in this list and of course failed. 10 months later I thought I was prepared to try it again. It was a completely different exam. I think I will not violate NDA by telling you, you have to know RIF, besides that the exam deals with technology, everything stated in the blue print is tested. After the second try,I was much frustrated, because I was sure I passed and didn't know what else to study, I started all over again, I am studying from all books again, browsing CCO more carefully. This is a hard exam, I'm sure next time will be also different. Saludos Ruben Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22066t=21970 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Traffic Shaping [7:21991]
Can you send the config? I have been spending allot of time doing traffic shaping and may be able to lend some insight if I see the config. -Eric -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Traffic Shaping [7:21991] I've had odd results implementing FRTS, as well. I've been told by a Cisco engineer that it helps to reload the router after applying or changing FRTS commands. I don't know if it's necessary but he said it makes things work a little better. I haven't noticed a difference but perhaps it's worth a try. John Thomas N. 10/3/01 10:11:15 PM Hi All, I implemeted the Traffic Shaping using map-class and assigned to subinterfaces. The PVCs sharing that physical interfaces however increase in reply time and eventually timeout. What did I do wrong? When I tried General Traffic Shaping, it worked with traffic-shape rate and traffic-shape adaptive commands. The reason I would like to implement Traffic Shaping with map-class because I would like to apply Frame-Relay fragmentation into some PVC to reduce delay time... Any idea why Traffic Shaping with map-class timeouts my PVCs? Thanks All! Thomas N. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22064t=21991 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cat4000 sup faulty? [7:22067]
Just working with a customer whose Cat4K had lost all it's line cards. Anyway got it back up and working but the customer noticed the the status of the sup card was faulty, running 6.1.2 catOS. I logged into my cat4k in the lab running 6.1.3 and noticed the same thing. Must be cosmetic, anyone else see/seen this Mod Slot Ports Module-Type Model Sub Status --- - - --- --- 1 12 1000BaseX Supervisor WS-X4013no faulty 2 234Router Switch CardWS-X4232-L3 no ok 3 348Inline Power Module WS-X4148-RJ45V no ok 4 41 Voice Gateway WS-X4604-GWYno ok -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22067t=22067 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T1 install; line protocol going down and up every 30 [7:22068]
Thanks to all of you who have responded. Here's where I'm at: The Telco's (two telcos involved) have both said the circuit is sound and correct. We can loopback both ways down the length of the circuit and it works ok. To eliminate hardware problems on my end, I have tested this router and DSU on the T1 in my office. It is a point to point to our ISP. The router came up, I plugged in our IP's, NAT, ACL info and we were surfing. My hardware/configuration seems to be working ok. The only thing left is their hardware/configuration, so I feel that's where the problem lies. The company I am trying to connect to has over 50 T1's going into their facility - this is not exactly a new configuration for them. Admittedly I am not the most seasoned field person. I have installed some T1's, but not 100's. I feel I must be missing something simple, but I don't what it is. The default configuration for this DSU is: clock source - line encoding - b8za framing - esf timeslots/channels - all 24 speed - 64k I have not modified any of these settings execpt changing the clock source, trying it both ways. In our office I know the ISP is providing the timing, so I just left everyting on the DSU to default and it worked beautifully. Any other ideas? Thanks, Stephen Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22068t=22068 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opinions: ATM or FR for VoIP? [7:21948]
mostly uptime from the provider but cell is also a driving force. We have just rolled ATM out (about 3 months ago) and it seems that I am fielding frame outages reguarly and my new ATM sites have been more stable. We are 24x7, so outages are ugly to us. Patrick Ramsey wrote: hmmm that is interesting... Even with ATM's overhead? Is there that much more reliabillity? (I'm never done voice over either) Is reliabillity the only advantage? And why is it more reliable? Do you mean with packet/cell loss or uptime from the provider? -Patrick George Murphy CCNP, CCDP 10/04/01 02:17AM I would go ATM, due to transport architecture and reliability, especially with voice... John Neiberger wrote: Just a quick opinion poll for those of you who have implemented VoIP. Given a medium-sized partially-meshed network, would you prefer to use ATM or Frame Relay for your transport? Assume that most locations would have DS1 speeds only. I ask this because I've been hearing a mixture of opinions. It seems to me that ATM would allow us to utilize its CoS. With FR you don't have much control over your traffic beyond FRTS and LLQ. Once it hits the cloud you're at its mercy. However, I haven't heard any details yet but apparently someone at Cisco thinks that ATM has some scalability problems that FR doesn't have. I can't imagine what that would be so it will be interesting to hear what he has to say. I'd be surprised if he suggests FR instead of ATM. Right now, we have a large frame relay network but I'm seriously considering migrating portions of it to ATM. After hearing these conflicting opinions I'm really not sure which path to take. Any thoughts? Thanks, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22070t=21948 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSM sup1 vs sup1a w/msfc daughter [7:22069]
Hey guys/gals, question... Does anyone have any experience with the older msm's compared to the newer msfc's? Is the configuration the same? What is gained by upgrading? thanks, -Patrick Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22069t=22069 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Route-maps on an MSM [7:22058]
Is it really an MSFC?? Your not applying a route map to a VLAN, looks like a portchannel to me!?!? Dave Wilson, Christian wrote: I have a 6509 with an MSM installed and have configured virtual interfaces for inter-vlan routing. I have created a route-map on the MSM but can not apply it to any interface. When I type the command ip policy route-map in interface configuration mode, the command is unrecognized: MSM(config)#int port-ch 1.3 MSM(config-subif)#ip ? Interface IP configuration subcommands: access-groupSpecify access control for packets accounting Enable IP accounting on this interface address Set the IP address of an interface authentication authentication subcommands bandwidth-percent Set EIGRP bandwidth limit broadcast-address Set the broadcast address of an interface cgmpEnable/disable CGMP directed-broadcast Enable forwarding of directed broadcasts dvmrp DVMRP interface commands hello-interval Configures IP-EIGRP hello interval helper-address Specify a destination address for UDP broadcasts hold-time Configures IP-EIGRP hold time igmpIGMP interface commands irdpICMP Router Discovery Protocol load-sharingStyle of load sharing mask-reply Enable sending ICMP Mask Reply messages mobile Mobile Host Protocol mroute-cacheEnable switching cache for incoming multicast packets mtu Set IP Maximum Transmission Unit multicast IP multicast interface commands ospfOSPF interface commands pim PIM interface commands probe Enable HP Probe support proxy-arp Enable proxy ARP rarp-server Enable RARP server for static arp entries redirects Enable sending ICMP Redirect messages rip Router Information Protocol route-cache Enable fast-switching cache for outgoing packets sdr Session Directory Protocol interface commands securityDDN IP Security Option split-horizon Perform split horizon summary-address Perform address summarization unnumbered Enable IP processing without an explicit address unreachablesEnable sending ICMP Unreachable messages verify Enable per packet validation MSM(config-subif)#ip policy route-map cwvpn ? % Unrecognized command Are rout-maps not possible on an MSM? Am I missing something? Any help would be much appreciated! -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22071t=22058 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Traffic Shaping [7:21991]
Here is a portion of one of the configs. For some reason, whenever I turn on FRTS my telnet sessions get *really* jumpy. Sometimes it almost seems the router locks up but I think it's just my telnet session. If I turn off FRTS on the main interface that jumpiness goes away. In this particular case I haven't applied the VoIP class to all PVCs and I'm wondering if that might cause a problem. We have two other locations that we're testing VoIP with and they have a direct PVC between them. VoIP calls between them sounds fine. When we shutdown that PVC and then route the traffic through the location whose config I'm including, the call quality is beyond horrid. Demons gargling acid in Hell probably sound better than this. :-) Any thoughts? Thanks, John class-map match-any voicecalls match ip precedence 4 class-map match-all VoIP-Control match access-group name VoIP-Control ! ! policy-map voice class voicecalls priority 192 class VoIP-Control bandwidth 8 class class-default fair-queue interface Serial0/0 encapsulation frame-relay no ip mroute-cache no fair-queue frame-relay traffic-shaping ! interface Serial0/0.16 point-to-point ip address 10.12.11.75 255.255.255.0 no ip mroute-cache frame-relay interface-dlci 16 ! interface Serial0/0.18 point-to-point ip address 10.12.24.70 255.255.255.0 frame-relay interface-dlci 18 class VoIP ! interface Serial0/0.23 point-to-point ip address 10.12.26.70 255.255.255.0 no ip mroute-cache frame-relay interface-dlci 23 class VoIP ! map-class frame-relay VoIP no frame-relay adaptive-shaping frame-relay cir 256000 frame-relay bc 2560 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 256000 service-policy output voice [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/4/01 10:25:25 AM Can you send the config? I have been spending allot of time doing traffic shaping and may be able to lend some insight if I see the config. -Eric -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Traffic Shaping [7:21991] I've had odd results implementing FRTS, as well. I've been told by a Cisco engineer that it helps to reload the router after applying or changing FRTS commands. I don't know if it's necessary but he said it makes things work a little better. I haven't noticed a difference but perhaps it's worth a try. John Thomas N. 10/3/01 10:11:15 PM Hi All, I implemeted the Traffic Shaping using map-class and assigned to subinterfaces. The PVCs sharing that physical interfaces however increase in reply time and eventually timeout. What did I do wrong? When I tried General Traffic Shaping, it worked with traffic-shape rate and traffic-shape adaptive commands. The reason I would like to implement Traffic Shaping with map-class because I would like to apply Frame-Relay fragmentation into some PVC to reduce delay time... Any idea why Traffic Shaping with map-class timeouts my PVCs? Thanks All! Thomas N. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22073t=21991 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Has anyone failed the CCIE Written? [7:21970]
I would say the requirement of the CCNP/CCNA for CCIE written/lab attempts is only a matter of time. -Original Message- From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Has anyone failed the CCIE Written? [7:21970] Ruben, I'd like to ask you if you already hold any Cisco certifications like CCNA, CCNP, etc. or if you're going for the CCIE written from scratch. Personally I would think that it would be an enormous help to have at least CCNP before attending the CCIE written (and lab), unless you're born with a router in one hand and a switch in the other - but I know that Cisco do not demand you to have any certifications. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Ruben Arias [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Has anyone failed the CCIE Written? [7:21970] Twice! I did my first try last year, haven't read all the books recommended in this list and of course failed. 10 months later I thought I was prepared to try it again. It was a completely different exam. I think I will not violate NDA by telling you, you have to know RIF, besides that the exam deals with technology, everything stated in the blue print is tested. After the second try,I was much frustrated, because I was sure I passed and didn't know what else to study, I started all over again, I am studying from all books again, browsing CCO more carefully. This is a hard exam, I'm sure next time will be also different. Saludos Ruben Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22074t=21970 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Suggestions welcome [7:22075]
1.What is the best way to monitor network traffic on Cisco 2600 with a t1 connection. I want to measure utilization and see who it hogging the bandwidth. 2. If my firewall is doing Nat, and is located behind the router can I do queuing on the router? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22075t=22075 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question on route loop when using OSPF demand circuit [7:22076]
Hi Group, When viewing CCIE power session presentation of Networkers 2000, I could not understand why you could form route loop when using ospf demand circuit. Here is the example given there: interface BRI0 ip ospf 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 ip ospf demand-circiut ! router ospf 10 redistribute rip subnets network 1.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 5 ! router rip redistribute connected network 3.0.0.0 default-metric 3 The power session could be found at http://www.ieng.com/networkers/nw00/pres/3304/3304_c1_sec7.pdf thanks, J _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22076t=22076 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CAN NOT PING TO ITSELF ON BRI [7:22030]
Hey Grad, R1 and R2 need dialer maps to their own IP addresses. On each router, create a dialer map that points to the local IP address and remote phone number. Fred From: Grad Alfons Kanon Reply-To: Grad Alfons Kanon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CAN NOT PING TO ITSELF ON BRI [7:22030] Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:58:37 -0400 Helo all, I configure my router BRI on r1 with: interface BRI0/0 ip address 122.5.12.1 255.255.255.252 ip directed-broadcast encapsulation ppp no ip mroute-cache dialer idle-timeout 60 dialer map ip 122.6.12.2 name r2 broadcast 456789 dialer load-threshold 128 outbound dialer-group 1 isdn switch-type basic-5ess ppp authentication chap ppp chap hostname rack01 ppp chap password cisco ppp multilink and r2: interface BRI0/0 ip address 122.6.12.2 255.255.255.252 ip directed-broadcast encapsulation ppp dialer map ip 122.6.12.1 name rack01 broadcast dialer-group 1 isdn switch-type basic-5ess no peer neighbor-route ppp authentication chap ppp multilink end But from r1 I can only ping to r2 BRI interface, I can't ping to r1 BRI0/0 (itself) any clue, tx, Grad _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22077t=22030 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab exam scheduling [7:22065]
well, one place would be http://www.groupstudy.com/form/list.php?f=5 - Original Message - From: Tim Booth To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:25 AM Subject: CCIE lab exam scheduling [7:22065] Hello, Anyone want to get rid of their scheduled spot for the IE lab? Anyone know where people would post this information? Thanks, Tim Booth _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22078t=22065 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSM sup1 vs sup1a w/msfc daughter [7:22069]
I recall working on an MSM when the 6000 first came out and it wasn't pretty and the thing takes up a slot to boot. The config is not the same but I don't recall the details except you have to build channel between the MSM and the 6000 SUP. Didn't know they even sell the 6000/MSM anylonger! GO MSFC!!! Dave Patrick Ramsey wrote: Hey guys/gals, question... Does anyone have any experience with the older msm's compared to the newer msfc's? Is the configuration the same? What is gained by upgrading? thanks, -Patrick -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22079t=22069 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cat4000 sup faulty? [7:22067]
Thanks Tim Hickman for his correct response. The 4006 has 3 power supplies, needs two to run and I had the third turned off hence the faulty status. time for eine bier!!! Dave MADMAN wrote: Just working with a customer whose Cat4K had lost all it's line cards. Anyway got it back up and working but the customer noticed the the status of the sup card was faulty, running 6.1.2 catOS. I logged into my cat4k in the lab running 6.1.3 and noticed the same thing. Must be cosmetic, anyone else see/seen this Mod Slot Ports Module-Type Model Sub Status --- - - --- --- 1 12 1000BaseX Supervisor WS-X4013no faulty 2 234Router Switch CardWS-X4232-L3 no ok 3 348Inline Power Module WS-X4148-RJ45V no ok 4 41 Voice Gateway WS-X4604-GWYno ok -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22080t=22067 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945]
Priscilla, yes, I agree with you. I always have. What I'm saying however is that Novell 802.3 isn't what we know IEEE 802.3 to be. And Novell 802.2 isn't what we know IEEE 802.2 to be. Novell just uses their own naming scheme to describe industry standard protocols. -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject: RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] At 09:12 AM 10/4/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: I'm not sure, but I think we're talking semantics here. I think what you're referring to is that the Ethernet types you reference for Novell are based on standards... but if I remember my Novell history correctly, Novell's encapsulation types aren't the standards as we know them. For example, Novell guessed at what the standard was going to be for 802.3 and missed. Novell's 802.3 had scalability issues and as such, had to create 802.2. Novell didn't create 802.2. IEEE created it. After Novell missed by using 802.3 without 802.2 (novell ether, novell raw, ETHERNET_8023) they synced up with IEEE and offered standard encapsulation methods. Using just an 802.3 header didn't cause scalability issues but it did cause problems for multiprotocol applications because there's no protocol identifier if you just use 802.3. Now 802.2 by itself isn't an encapsulation type in the IEEE world now is it? 802.2 runs on top of 802.3, regardless of whether you're talking Novell, AppleTalk, etc. It is an encapsulation type and also an entire standard, including connectionless, connection-oriented, etc. LLC. And that's what I mean when I say that they're proprietary--they're Novell's own design They are definitely not Novell's design. and naming structure. Naming, yes. I don't remember enough about SAP That's IEEE 802.2. or SNAP to comment at this point... That's IEEE 802.2 with an extra header that includes a protocol type. All my Novell courseware manuals are at home and I'm not. Don't read the Novell course manuals. It sounds like they confused you. ;-) Priscilla -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] At 09:39 PM 10/3/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: 1. See Priscilla's response first. 2. Your query wondering about what protocols other than Novell that can use the 802.3 frame makes me wonder if you have misunderstood encapsulation. Novell's encapsulations were developed prior to the IEEE finalizing their standards. They're Novell-proprietary. I understand your point, but, actually only Novell raw is proprietary. The other options for Novell encapsulation are all standard. ETHERNET_II, aka arpa, Ethernet V.2 and Ethernet II, is standard. ETHERNET_802.2, aka sap, and 802.3 with 802.2, is standard. ETHERNET_SNAP, aka snap, and 802.3 with 802.2 and SNAP, is standard. To illustrate this point, if you set the IPX encapsulation type to be novell-ether and you typed show ipx interface ethernet 0, you'll see novell-ether on the Ethernet 0 interface. However, if you type show interface ethernet 0, you'll see that the encapsulation is ARPA which is different than the IPX encapsulation on that same interface. I would say that's a bug (limitation) with show int. IP uses ARPA, which is Cisco's ridiculous term for Ethernet II. Other encapsulations are used for other protocols. The show int probably just shouldn't show the encapsulation if it's not going to be more specific. Priscilla -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lists Wizard Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] Hi Group, I am checking on the what the Certification Zone CD is saying about 802.3 ethernet frames. Here is what they say: Novell 802.3 raw frames do not use 802.2, so they do not have a protocol identifier. In practice, encapsulated IPX frames do have an hexadecimal FF in the first byte, so the protocol can be identified. my questions are: What protocols other than novell can use the 802.3 frame? How are they identified within the frame header? Any comments are welcomed Thanks Lists Wizard Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22081t=21945
Re: smartforce training [7:21933]
Don't do it jenn - Original Message - From: Jennifer Cribbs To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:11 PM Subject: RE: smartforce training [7:21933] I received a phone call today from a woman named Sondra Smith who is one of their reps. She said I have dropped my name on their site. The website url is http://www.vip.smartcertify.com . Tfhe phone # she gave me is 1-800-653-4933 ext 1264. It is expensive but they have a plan that can be financed through SallyMae Loans which is sort of like a student college loan that can be repayable after you finish classes and after they place you in a job. They have 24hr support for their classes through the format of chat rooms' that are run by certified instructors that are certified in whatever cert you are currently pursuing, so you get instant replies to questions you might have through the course as you proceed forward. They send out cd's of the materials pertaining to the certs the person wants to achieve and they have job placement in whatever area you live in or where ever you choose to work. That is all I know at this point. I talked to this woman for about 1hr on the phone. It is a forced learning method, which I think is good. You can only advance through the course with satisfactory completion of each subject. You can't skip ahead is what I think this means. She called it force learning. There would be one price for the ccnp series of classes. You would receive the material for all four tests at one time. The same for the mcse and the ccna and the a+. She said they also have oracle and some other stuff which I wasn't really interested in. If you click on the link I gave you, it opens up a box wanting the sales rep name. Just type in sondra's name and then you can browse a little on their site. I sure there is more to this, but like I said, this is all I know at this point. It nearly sounded too good to be true and you know what they say about that. I was just hoping someone had some personal knowledge of this and could tell me something also. If I do proceed with this, I will let you know what I think after I have personal experience of it. It also is endorsed by cisco and microsoft.or at least she said so. I just finished putting my computer back together so I can browse back to the site now and read a little. It was maintenance day[preparing for a+] Jenn 10/3/2001 2:44:18 PM, Stull, Cory wrote: never heard of it, could you give me some more detail so I can check it out also? thanks Cory -Original Message- From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: smartforce training [7:21933] Hello, I would like some feedback on smartforce training. Is anyone familiar with this? I am thinking about purchasing this curriculum and want to know if it is a waste of money or if it is something truely beneficial in obtaining your certification? Thanks, Jenn Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22082t=21933 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TCP TURN? [7:22083]
Does anyone know what a TCP Turn is? I've heard this mentioned on a couple of conference calls i've been on lately and I can't seem to find out much information on it. Not sure if maybe it's a non-technical term used for a syn-ack type deal or what. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks a bunch! Tim Timothy Ouellette, Infrastructure Analyst MCSE, CCSE, CCNP/DP EDS - New Business Implementation 1075 W. Entrance Drive Auburn Hills, MI 48236 ( 01-248-754-7535 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pager 888-351-4584 www.eds.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22083t=22083 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cat4000 sup faulty? [7:22067]
How many power supplies, and of those how many are powered on. If these two numbers do not match, then you will get the faulty message. David C Prall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com - Original Message - From: MADMAN To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: cat4000 sup faulty? [7:22067] Just working with a customer whose Cat4K had lost all it's line cards. Anyway got it back up and working but the customer noticed the the status of the sup card was faulty, running 6.1.2 catOS. I logged into my cat4k in the lab running 6.1.3 and noticed the same thing. Must be cosmetic, anyone else see/seen this Mod Slot Ports Module-Type Model Sub Status --- - - --- --- 1 12 1000BaseX Supervisor WS-X4013no faulty 2 234Router Switch CardWS-X4232-L3 no ok 3 348Inline Power Module WS-X4148-RJ45V no ok 4 41 Voice Gateway WS-X4604-GWYno ok -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22084t=22067 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does CCIE written still have lots of Cisco command [7:22086]
See I knew eventually you'd all see things my way. Don :) Now Back to the free consulting. - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:03 AM Subject: Re: Does CCIE written still have lots of Cisco command [7:22019] I'll break the NDA --- nah, don't bother studying the Cisco commands for the CCIE written...you won't need them.. I promise. (my middle name is Joe Isuzu) geez I'm cruel tonight, wonder if it has anything to do with me running out of gas on the freeway for the first time in 20 years? -e- who never met an IOS command he didn't like (except for debug ipx packet) - Original Message - From: Brad Ellis To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 10:58 PM Subject: Re: Does CCIE written still have lots of Cisco command [7:21999] Sean, I usually dont answer these types of questions nor post sarcasm on this newsgroup. However, I am going to make an exception for you. a) Anyone actually answering your question would be breaking the NDA b) If you're taking the CCIE RS written and you dont know Cisco commands, you're in trouble c) Go read Caslow and Halabi, that would be a really good start for you d) Visit: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html e) I heard they are removing the Cisco commands and replacing them with Lucent Definity PBX commands -Brad Sean Wu wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... just wonder, I think it might be testing more on theory instead of detailed command. Any ideas? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22086t=22086 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jargon Dictionary [7:21964]
nice -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jargon Dictionary [7:21964] A magic number is any combination of wins by team x or losses by team y. Sorry I'm a baseball fan. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22088t=21964 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OSPF-Doyle Vol 1 pp 531-533 [7:22021]
Yes, Doyle clearly points out that even when the network 172.19.35.15 Statement is removed, this secondary address CAN be advertised in OSPF as long as the primary is running OSPF, although the secondary Will not be able to source Hellos. You will need to add the subnets keyword. See http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/3.html#14.0. I'll let you know when I get this Case study running at home tomorrow. HTH, Elmer -Original Message- From: routerjocky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:29 PM To: Elmer Deloso Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OSPF-Doyle Vol 1 pp 531-533 [7:22021] Hi. I haven't implemented this Case Study yet, but The info in the Routing table for Rubens (Area 1) is Correct. Matisse (Area 192.168.10.0) has OSPF running nay, the routing table is incorrect for this part...read Issue #1 On the primary address of its e0. 172.19.35.15 Is configured as a secondary on e0. Page 526 clearly explains Issue #1: Read the config on 530 and the 1st paragraph on 531. he claims to have removed the secondary from the OSPF config, yet IA 172.19.35.0 still shows up at Rubens. Issue #2: The routing table on Rubens is still wrong, even if the secondary is still intact and advertised IA. It's not a (classful) /16 subnet, it's a /25 subnet. (I didn't see an area range command for 172.19 anywhere in the config) The two rules related to how OSPF interacts with secondary Addresses. To answer your question, yes this will be flooded To Area 0 by Matisse (now an ASBR) as an IA route, not as an E2 (the default) for external routes (page 512) in this case All RIP routes from Dali redistributed into OSPF will be seen by The other OSPF routers as E2. Page 530's configuration also shows The redistribute rip metric 10 thus defaulting to an E2 type. My issue is not with metric-type 1 or 2... I know how to change those and I'm not questioning the validity of E2. In fact he makes the point of showing the E2 cost (10) all the way to Rubens as opposed to E1 (cumulative) cost. In fact, I'll add to this exercise to change the cost of just a few of the redistributed RIP routes to metric-type 1 (just for fun and practice) Issue #3: without net 172.19.0.0 a 192.168.10.0 in the OSPF config, it does not get advertised at all, much less as an E2 route, but it's a directly-connected RIP route. Does a redistribute connected need to be added to get that route into OSPF? Elmer -Original Message- From: routerjocky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 5:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OSPF-Doyle Vol 1 pp 531-533 [7:22021] Okay, I gotta figure that something is wrong, but I don't get 172.19.35.0 advertised at Rubens unless I keep the secondary address on Matisse as an OSPF network. It also shows the route as IA, not E2, indicating it's an OSPF route, and I sure don't get the mask mismatch problem, as it's subnetted as a /25, not as a /16. Anyone else have the same result? Can anyone explain it? Is there something rotten in Denmark? (besides linburger cheese?) Maybe someone snuck the network stmt for 172.19.35.0 into ospf 40 when he wasn't looking? Or does this constitute errata? (it's not in the existing errata sheet) thanks -e- (being onery tonight) May the route be with you Switch if you must, route if you can ;-) http://members.home.net/airwrck ..and this one, just for Peter... 'Routing between VLANS' is a valid statement _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22089t=22021 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945]
At 09:12 AM 10/4/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: I'm not sure, but I think we're talking semantics here. I think what you're referring to is that the Ethernet types you reference for Novell are based on standards... but if I remember my Novell history correctly, Novell's encapsulation types aren't the standards as we know them. For example, Novell guessed at what the standard was going to be for 802.3 and missed. Novell's 802.3 had scalability issues and as such, had to create 802.2. Novell didn't create 802.2. IEEE created it. After Novell missed by using 802.3 without 802.2 (novell ether, novell raw, ETHERNET_8023) they synced up with IEEE and offered standard encapsulation methods. Using just an 802.3 header didn't cause scalability issues but it did cause problems for multiprotocol applications because there's no protocol identifier if you just use 802.3. Now 802.2 by itself isn't an encapsulation type in the IEEE world now is it? 802.2 runs on top of 802.3, regardless of whether you're talking Novell, AppleTalk, etc. It is an encapsulation type and also an entire standard, including connectionless, connection-oriented, etc. LLC. And that's what I mean when I say that they're proprietary--they're Novell's own design They are definitely not Novell's design. and naming structure. Naming, yes. I don't remember enough about SAP That's IEEE 802.2. or SNAP to comment at this point... That's IEEE 802.2 with an extra header that includes a protocol type. All my Novell courseware manuals are at home and I'm not. Don't read the Novell course manuals. It sounds like they confused you. ;-) Priscilla -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] At 09:39 PM 10/3/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: 1. See Priscilla's response first. 2. Your query wondering about what protocols other than Novell that can use the 802.3 frame makes me wonder if you have misunderstood encapsulation. Novell's encapsulations were developed prior to the IEEE finalizing their standards. They're Novell-proprietary. I understand your point, but, actually only Novell raw is proprietary. The other options for Novell encapsulation are all standard. ETHERNET_II, aka arpa, Ethernet V.2 and Ethernet II, is standard. ETHERNET_802.2, aka sap, and 802.3 with 802.2, is standard. ETHERNET_SNAP, aka snap, and 802.3 with 802.2 and SNAP, is standard. To illustrate this point, if you set the IPX encapsulation type to be novell-ether and you typed show ipx interface ethernet 0, you'll see novell-ether on the Ethernet 0 interface. However, if you type show interface ethernet 0, you'll see that the encapsulation is ARPA which is different than the IPX encapsulation on that same interface. I would say that's a bug (limitation) with show int. IP uses ARPA, which is Cisco's ridiculous term for Ethernet II. Other encapsulations are used for other protocols. The show int probably just shouldn't show the encapsulation if it's not going to be more specific. Priscilla -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lists Wizard Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] Hi Group, I am checking on the what the Certification Zone CD is saying about 802.3 ethernet frames. Here is what they say: Novell 802.3 raw frames do not use 802.2, so they do not have a protocol identifier. In practice, encapsulated IPX frames do have an hexadecimal FF in the first byte, so the protocol can be identified. my questions are: What protocols other than novell can use the 802.3 frame? How are they identified within the frame header? Any comments are welcomed Thanks Lists Wizard Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22092t=21945 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: questions about queuing [7:22041]
At 09:45 AM 10/4/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm searching for information about a question in the CCIE written. I can't really remember but I think there was a question about queuing and any numbers like this: queue-list ??? 1 4500 200 ??? or anything. Yes, that means wait in the queue for 200 days to get your CCNA, 4500 to get your CCNP, and 1 to get your CCIE written. ;-) Priscilla Did anyone also remember this questions ? Thanks Udo Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22091t=22041 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945]
At 09:27 PM 10/3/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote: IP uses ARPA, which is Cisco's ridiculous term for Ethernet II. isn't ARPA the acronym for the Advanced Research Project Agency, the progenitor of that which we all know, love, use, and derive our income from? Many of the early RFC's refer to ARPA-internet protocols. The Advanced Research ProjectS Agency invented TCP/IP. But they didn't invent Ethernet and I don't think the term arpa should be used to refer to an Ethernet frame type. I know why Cisco uses the term. There's an old RFC that talks about encapsulating IP in Ethernet frames. RFC implies ARPA. But I think they should call the Ethernet frame type something that has to do with the history of Ethernet, not the history of TCP/IP, especially since the frame type can be used for other protocols besides IP. How about: DIX Ethernet2 EthernetII EtherType or something! ;-) Priscilla A little respect for our history! ;- Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] At 09:39 PM 10/3/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: 1. See Priscilla's response first. 2. Your query wondering about what protocols other than Novell that can use the 802.3 frame makes me wonder if you have misunderstood encapsulation. Novell's encapsulations were developed prior to the IEEE finalizing their standards. They're Novell-proprietary. I understand your point, but, actually only Novell raw is proprietary. The other options for Novell encapsulation are all standard. ETHERNET_II, aka arpa, Ethernet V.2 and Ethernet II, is standard. ETHERNET_802.2, aka sap, and 802.3 with 802.2, is standard. ETHERNET_SNAP, aka snap, and 802.3 with 802.2 and SNAP, is standard. To illustrate this point, if you set the IPX encapsulation type to be novell-ether and you typed show ipx interface ethernet 0, you'll see novell-ether on the Ethernet 0 interface. However, if you type show interface ethernet 0, you'll see that the encapsulation is ARPA which is different than the IPX encapsulation on that same interface. I would say that's a bug (limitation) with show int. IP uses ARPA, which is Cisco's ridiculous term for Ethernet II. Other encapsulations are used for other protocols. The show int probably just shouldn't show the encapsulation if it's not going to be more specific. Priscilla -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lists Wizard Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] Hi Group, I am checking on the what the Certification Zone CD is saying about 802.3 ethernet frames. Here is what they say: Novell 802.3 raw frames do not use 802.2, so they do not have a protocol identifier. In practice, encapsulated IPX frames do have an hexadecimal FF in the first byte, so the protocol can be identified. my questions are: What protocols other than novell can use the 802.3 frame? How are they identified within the frame header? Any comments are welcomed Thanks Lists Wizard Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22097t=21945 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Traffic Shaping [7:21991]
John, Most of the traffic shaping I have done is with data only. T1 to 56k for example. The rules may be very different (and I'm sure they are) while doing VoIP. Traffic shaping a T1 to a 56K is pretty strait foreword. I try and follow the 1/8th rule when configuring my bc value. I also always configure my CIR to available bandwidth (not true CIR) and mincir to what is the true CIR. map-class frame-relay 56k no frame-relay adaptive-shaping frame-relay cir 56000 frame-relay bc 8000 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 28000 This rule seems to work great until you traffic shape a T1 pvc. The Cisco algorithm seems to break while applying the 1/8th rule to bc. I have been advised, please correct me if I am wrong, that the bc value should never exceed 8. If you are shaping T1 PVC (T1 to T1) your map class should look like the following. map-class frame-relay T1 no frame-relay adaptive-shaping frame-relay cir 1536000 frame-relay bc 8 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 768000 To verify this after applying these map class changes do a 'sh traffic' and verify the math. Take your interval value (given in ms) and invert it (1 / interval time in ms). This will give you the amount of intervals per second. Multiply this number by Sustain bits/interval. This should be close to the Cisco CIR value plus or minus a little bit. Here is an example: c3640A#sh traffic Interface Se1/0.101 Access TargetByte Sustain ExcessInterval Increment Adapt VC List Rate Limit bits/int bits/int (ms) (bytes) Active 101 56000 8757000 0 125 875 - 1/.125 * 7000 = 56000 (Your target rate) This is what has worked for me in the past. You may want to do adaptive shaping, but probably not with voice. Hope this helps. If someone can add additional insight to FRTS with VoIP please help. Thanks, -Eric -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Traffic Shaping [7:21991] Here is a portion of one of the configs. For some reason, whenever I turn on FRTS my telnet sessions get *really* jumpy. Sometimes it almost seems the router locks up but I think it's just my telnet session. If I turn off FRTS on the main interface that jumpiness goes away. In this particular case I haven't applied the VoIP class to all PVCs and I'm wondering if that might cause a problem. We have two other locations that we're testing VoIP with and they have a direct PVC between them. VoIP calls between them sounds fine. When we shutdown that PVC and then route the traffic through the location whose config I'm including, the call quality is beyond horrid. Demons gargling acid in Hell probably sound better than this. :-) Any thoughts? Thanks, John class-map match-any voicecalls match ip precedence 4 class-map match-all VoIP-Control match access-group name VoIP-Control ! ! policy-map voice class voicecalls priority 192 class VoIP-Control bandwidth 8 class class-default fair-queue interface Serial0/0 encapsulation frame-relay no ip mroute-cache no fair-queue frame-relay traffic-shaping ! interface Serial0/0.16 point-to-point ip address 10.12.11.75 255.255.255.0 no ip mroute-cache frame-relay interface-dlci 16 ! interface Serial0/0.18 point-to-point ip address 10.12.24.70 255.255.255.0 frame-relay interface-dlci 18 class VoIP ! interface Serial0/0.23 point-to-point ip address 10.12.26.70 255.255.255.0 no ip mroute-cache frame-relay interface-dlci 23 class VoIP ! map-class frame-relay VoIP no frame-relay adaptive-shaping frame-relay cir 256000 frame-relay bc 2560 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 256000 service-policy output voice [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/4/01 10:25:25 AM Can you send the config? I have been spending allot of time doing traffic shaping and may be able to lend some insight if I see the config. -Eric -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Traffic Shaping [7:21991] I've had odd results implementing FRTS, as well. I've been told by a Cisco engineer that it helps to reload the router after applying or changing FRTS commands. I don't know if it's necessary but he said it makes things work a little better. I haven't noticed a difference but perhaps it's worth a try. John Thomas N. 10/3/01 10:11:15 PM Hi All, I implemeted the Traffic Shaping using map-class and assigned to subinterfaces. The PVCs sharing that physical interfaces however increase in reply time and eventually timeout. What did I do wrong? When I tried General Traffic Shaping, it worked with traffic-shape rate and traffic-shape adaptive commands. The reason I would like to implement Traffic Shaping with map-class because I would like to apply Frame-Relay fragmentation into some
Re: Interesting clear arp behavior [7:21984]
Cisco routers ARP for themselves and send gratuitous ARP replies when they boot also. Priscilla At 11:07 PM 10/3/01, John Neiberger wrote: I just noticed something that I've never seen before and thought I'd pass it along for those of you who did not know this occurred. I have two routers, R1 and R2. I have configured their ethernet interfaces as 10.1.1.1 and .2 respectively. After reloading R1 and turning on debugging I saw the following: R1sho arp Protocol Address Age (min) Hardware Addr Type Interface Internet 10.1.1.1- .0c8d.ce47 ARPA Ethernet0 R1en R1#deb all This may severely impact network performance. Continue? [confirm]y All possible debugging has been turned on R1# R1#clear arp %IPFAST-6-INVALREQ: Cache invalidation request for all interfaces IP arp mobility: aging arp mobility cache entries IP ARP: sent req src 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47, dst 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47 Ethernet0 IP ARP: sent rep src 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47, dst 10.1.1.1 .. Ethernet0 IP ARP: sent rep src 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47, dst 10.1.1.1 .. Ethernet0 IP ARP: sent rep src 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47, dst 10.1.1.1 .. Ethernet0 IP ARP: sent rep src 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47, dst 10.1.1.1 .. Ethernet0 As you can see, when I cleared the ARP cache the router sent an ARP request to itself and then sent four gratuitous ARP replies. Very interesting! It doesn't stop there. Next, I pinged 10.1.1.2 so that it would also show up in R1's ARP cache. R1#sho arp Protocol Address Age (min) Hardware Addr Type Interface Internet 10.1.1.20 .0c8d.d283 ARPA Ethernet0 Internet 10.1.1.1- .0c8d.ce47 ARPA Ethernet0 Okay, now I clear the ARP cache again: R1#clear arp %IPFAST-6-INVALREQ: Cache invalidation request for all interfaces IP arp mobility: aging arp mobility cache entries IP ARP: sent req src 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47, dst 10.1.1.2 .0c8d.d283 Ethernet0 IP ARP: sent req src 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47, dst 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47 Ethernet0 IP ARP: sent rep src 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47, dst 10.1.1.1 .. Ethernet0 IP ARP: sent rep src 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47, dst 10.1.1.1 .. Ethernet0 IP ARP: sent rep src 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47, dst 10.1.1.1 .. Ethernet0 IP ARP: sent rep src 10.1.1.1 .0c8d.ce47, dst 10.1.1.1 .. Ethernet0 Now, the first ARP request is a unicast ARP request to verify the MAC address of 10.1.1.2! I had *no* idea this would happen. Apparently, when you clear the ARP cache the router wants to repopulate it as quickly as possible. To do this, it checks to see if the devices it was previously aware of still exist with the same MAC-to-IP address relationships. Very cool, but it has some traffic implications that we should be aware of in certain situations especially on routers with large ARP caches. Very interesting. It's amazing what you can learn by tinkering at home instead of playing it safe on production routers. ;-) Regards, John ___ http://inbox.excite.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22096t=21984 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TCP TURN? [7:22083]
Next time somebody uses that term why don't you ask them what they mean. And if they give you a everybody knows don't you answer, ask them what RFC that is. - Original Message - From: Ouellette, Tim To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: TCP TURN? [7:22083] Does anyone know what a TCP Turn is? I've heard this mentioned on a couple of conference calls i've been on lately and I can't seem to find out much information on it. Not sure if maybe it's a non-technical term used for a syn-ack type deal or what. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks a bunch! Tim Timothy Ouellette, Infrastructure Analyst MCSE, CCSE, CCNP/DP EDS - New Business Implementation 1075 W. Entrance Drive Auburn Hills, MI 48236 ( 01-248-754-7535 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pager 888-351-4584 www.eds.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22098t=22083 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]
Your point about ratios : agreed, which is why I made another post, where I tried to account for the legacy factor of Cisco gear. Once again, Cisco loses, even with extreme assumptions that favor Cisco. Please see my other post. The point is that a ratio of 380:1 is extremely difficult to wipe out, no matter what assumptions you use. So you say I should not use the annual run rates between the 2 companies, and that is reasonable. So instead I presume there is $330 billion of Cisco gear sitting around out there in the world, because it has been 15 years since Cisco's IPO times $22 billion of gear per year. This is clearly ridiculous because obviously Cisco has not sold $22 billion of gear every year since its IPO, and also because almost all of Cisco's gear that is more than a few years has been junked. But, fine we'll make that assumption. So then the ratio should be 330:1. What's the real ratio? 380:1 About your drumming on skills versus certs. You are correct, I have already conceded so. Of course it is true that experience and skills matter more than a cert. It is just much easier for me to type CCIE or JNCIE rather than skills and experience that are generally held by the average CCIE or JNCIE (also because this whole discussion was launched from guys talking about the MCSE vs. the CCIE, so I had to respond in kind) But , Okay fine. If it makes you feel any better, go back to all my posts on this thread and make that substitution every time I say CCIE or JNCIE. So basically, now what I am saying in all my posts is that I believe that a certain level of skill and experience in Juniper is probably more valuable than an equivalent level of skill and experience in Cisco. How about that? Now, about your point that it is unreasonable that regular people should go for Juniper due to lack of access, of course you are correct. I am not saying that people should just drop everything and go for Juniper if they do not have proper access. What I am saying is that if you are given a choice to study one or the other, and you have access to both. I believe it is better for you to go for Juniper. Furthermore, I believe that even if you don't have access to a Juniper lab right now, but you see the opportunity to make moves in your career such that you will have such access, then that is something you should consider. Besides, I believe people should be proactive and aggressive when it comes to their career. Your company and your boss doesn't really care whether your skills are staying current (they may say that they care, but they probably don't really care), they just want to get things done, and if that means sticking you with learning skills for which there is little demand elsewhere, they don't really care about that. You don't want to get stuck maintaining Windows 3.11 while everybody else in your company is learning W2K, for example. It is really the responsibility of every IT individual to make sure that their skills remain up-to-date and valuable, and you can't always be passive and just learn whatever technologies your company decides to throw at you. sometimes you have to aggressively make moves with your career to make sure you are learning skills that are in demand. You don't want to be always stuck maintaining Dec-VAX boxes and Vines networks and Bay routers and then discover that when you get laid off, nobody wants to hire you because your skills are obsolete. You've got to remember - this whole thread started because I was responding to somebody who was proposing that the MCSE was more valuable than the CCIE,and his reasons for saying so were that there are more Microsoft jobs than Cisco jobs out there. My response (this whole thread) was that just because there is more demand for a certain skill does not mean that that skills is necessarily more valuable, because you also need to look at the supply side of the equation, and I was using Juniper and the JNCIE as the counterargument (as an example of a skills with low demand and even lower supply). The thread then digressed as people were shocked, shocked that I would dare to question the orthodoxy that Cisco is great and Juniper is nothing. I was not proposing that everybody junk their Cisco lab and run to study Juniper, not at all. Scarcity was not a concern for this thread. Why not? Well, the guy who made the MCSE vs. CCIE argument wasn't invoking scarcity either, even though it is clearly easier and cheaper to set up an MCSE lab than a CCIE lab. He was just talking about which skills was more valuable (Microsoft or Cisco), without getting into any discussions of scarcity of equipment. So if he wasn't going to invoke equipment scarcity in his argument, then why should I invoke it in my response? By the same token, this is the same reason why I only talked about certs, not skills. Once again, I will say that of course you are correct that skills matters more than certs. But on the other hand, this thread started because somebody
Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]
Whoops, my apologies. In my analysis, I had stated that Cisco's IPO was in 1986. Actually that is not true, and Cisco was actually founded in 1986, and its IPO was in 1990. I had confused it with Microsoft's IPO in 1986. Anyway, I believe it makes my analysis even more compelling. Let me summarize. I am making the eminently ridiculous assumption that Cisco has sold $22 billion of gear yearly since its founding, and that all that gear is still being utilized, even the gear that is 15 years old, for a grand total of $330 billion of Cisco gear out there, compared to only $1billion of existing Juniper gear (again, assuming Juniper has existed for only 1 year, which is also completely ridiculous, because Juniper's IPO was actually in 1998). Furthermore, I am assuming that all that Cisco gear is high-end like Juniper's equipment and therefore requires the same level of expertise per dollar sold that Juniper's equipment does (and we all know that's not true - you don't need a CCIE to set up a simple WAN that has a couple of 800's ). Furthermore, none of that gear is 'weird' equipment that average Cisco CCIE's do not know how to use, like ONS-15454 ADM's (which, by the way, Cisco actually has been selling about $1billion annually until the optical bust), or the like. So basically after coming up with the most unfair comparison possible, Juniper still wins out (330:1 according to revenue which is still less than the 380:1 ratio of xxIE's) . To quote Will Smith from the movie Men in Black: Damn The key is that a ratio of 380:1 is a large number that is not easily surmounted no matter what assumptions you throw at it. I have thrown some eminently ludicrous assumptions to attack that number, and I still can't beat it. So even though I am a CCIE myself and I hate having to say this, I must admit that if I were given the opportunity of trading my CCIE for a JNCIE, I would have to think about it - for about a microsecond. (Or, for those who continue to harp that it's skills that matter, not certs, let me modify that by saying that I would trade my skills and experience with Cisco routers for an equivalent amount of skill and experience with Juniper routers, how about that?) Simply put, I cannot escape the logic that there is significantly greater demand for Juniper expertise relative to the number of trained Juniper people out there than there is demand for Cisco expertise relative to the number of Cisco trained people. I think the numbers speak for themselves. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22100t=3485 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: tftp server download bombed!! [7:21975]
Hello, I guess I'll try Erlend's way...That was what was specified on the Cisco web siteI added the tftp parameter as I saw it as an example command...So Leigh, help me out here, how can I fix this problemLet me ask you this...I was doing this telnetted to a terminal server at home from my workDo you think if I do it at home, it will work...I mean, have the routers in front of me... :-) Thank you. From: Leigh Anne Chisholm Reply-To: Leigh Anne Chisholm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: tftp server download bombed!! [7:21975] Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:32:54 -0400 Erlend, you're half right. There's two ways to boot from TFTP. Yours and Cisco Nuts. This is his way (and from this output, you can also see where you can use your method... RouterA(config)#boot ? bootstrap Bootstrap image file buffersize Specify the buffer size for netbooting a config file hostRouter-specific config file network Network-wide config file system System image file RouterA(config)#boot system ? WORD TFTP filename or URL flash Boot from flash memory mopBoot from a Decnet MOP server rcpBoot from a server via rcp romBoot from rom tftp Boot from a tftp server RouterA(config)#boot system tftp ? WORD Configuration filename RouterA(config)#boot system tftp c1600-j-p.bin ? Hostname or A.B.C.D Address from which to download the boot config file RouterA(config)#boot system tftp c1600-j-p.bin 172.16.1.1 ? RouterA(config)#boot system tftp c1600-j-p.bin 172.16.1.1 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erlend Ringstad Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: tftp server download bombed!! [7:21975] the command is: boot system image ip not boot system tftp image ip At 04:34 04.10.2001, Cisco Nuts wrote: Hello, Just configured a 2501 router as a tftp server with the command: # tftp-server flash:c2500-ins-l.120.bin 10 # access-list 10 permit 172.16.12.0 Can ping to the client router at 172.16.12.2 On the client router configed the following: # no boot system # boot system tftp c2500-ins-l.120.bin 172.16.12.1 # boot system rom # config-register 0x010F # end # wr # reload When ther router reboots, I get the following error msg. %SYS-4-CONFIG_NEWER: Configurations from version 11.3 may not be correctly understood. Loading c2500-ins-l.120-19.bin [File not found] Flash boot: File 'c2500-d-l.113-11a.bin' open failed. Sleeping for 2 secs before next netboot attempt Loading c2500-ins-l.120-19.bin [File not found] And then the router finally boots to a R1-Moritz(boot) prompt. Can someone help out? Please advise. Thank you. Kind regards. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22102t=21975 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VPN Solution for Site to site Wireless connection [7:22101]
We deployed some wireless bridges with 11Mbps throughput. We are seeking solutions which are not too expensive to encrypt 11Mbps. However, we calculated the cost, if we use cisco 2600 with VPN card, for one pair, the price easily goes over $15,000. Could any one provide solution around or under $10,000. Regardless the brand of products, as long as it works fine. Thanks, Daniel Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22101t=22101 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VPN and As5300 [7:22103]
I have a vpn solution from the internet but some apps don't work because of latency over the internet. One of the solution I'm thinking of is using a AS5300 for dialup for users to dialin. Is this a good solution and if so where should I place this As5300 and how should it be configured. What about security - are there any concerns. If you thing the as5300 should be used - do you think combining a as5300 and vpn would be the best. Thanks. Tom _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22103t=22103 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: smartforce training [7:21933]
This company was the original CBT Systems, and somehow Ended up with a deal with FORE (not the one that is now Marconi). But their tactics in selling these Official Training materials are VERY aggressive that you'd have Better chances of getting a super deal from a used-car Lot. Total waste of your money, efforts, and time. Elmer -Original Message- From: Dan Faulk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 3:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: smartforce training [7:21933] Amen to that. My company bought the MCSE program and it was not only marginal it was dull. For the money they are charging you could outfit a good CCNP lab and several first rate training aids. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donald B Johnson jr Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: smartforce training [7:21933] Don't do it jenn - Original Message - From: Jennifer Cribbs To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:11 PM Subject: RE: smartforce training [7:21933] I received a phone call today from a woman named Sondra Smith who is one of their reps. She said I have dropped my name on their site. The website url is http://www.vip.smartcertify.com . Tfhe phone # she gave me is 1-800-653-4933 ext 1264. It is expensive but they have a plan that can be financed through SallyMae Loans which is sort of like a student college loan that can be repayable after you finish classes and after they place you in a job. They have 24hr support for their classes through the format of chat rooms' that are run by certified instructors that are certified in whatever cert you are currently pursuing, so you get instant replies to questions you might have through the course as you proceed forward. They send out cd's of the materials pertaining to the certs the person wants to achieve and they have job placement in whatever area you live in or where ever you choose to work. That is all I know at this point. I talked to this woman for about 1hr on the phone. It is a forced learning method, which I think is good. You can only advance through the course with satisfactory completion of each subject. You can't skip ahead is what I think this means. She called it force learning. There would be one price for the ccnp series of classes. You would receive the material for all four tests at one time. The same for the mcse and the ccna and the a+. She said they also have oracle and some other stuff which I wasn't really interested in. If you click on the link I gave you, it opens up a box wanting the sales rep name. Just type in sondra's name and then you can browse a little on their site. I sure there is more to this, but like I said, this is all I know at this point. It nearly sounded too good to be true and you know what they say about that. I was just hoping someone had some personal knowledge of this and could tell me something also. If I do proceed with this, I will let you know what I think after I have personal experience of it. It also is endorsed by cisco and microsoft.or at least she said so. I just finished putting my computer back together so I can browse back to the site now and read a little. It was maintenance day[preparing for a+] Jenn 10/3/2001 2:44:18 PM, Stull, Cory wrote: never heard of it, could you give me some more detail so I can check it out also? thanks Cory -Original Message- From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: smartforce training [7:21933] Hello, I would like some feedback on smartforce training. Is anyone familiar with this? I am thinking about purchasing this curriculum and want to know if it is a waste of money or if it is something truely beneficial in obtaining your certification? Thanks, Jenn Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22104t=21933 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tftp server download bombed!! [7:21975]
On Cisco 7000, can you boot from slot0:. If yes, how? Best Regards - Original Message - From: Leigh Anne Chisholm To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: RE: tftp server download bombed!! [7:21975] Erlend, you're half right. There's two ways to boot from TFTP. Yours and Cisco Nuts. This is his way (and from this output, you can also see where you can use your method... RouterA(config)#boot ? bootstrap Bootstrap image file buffersize Specify the buffer size for netbooting a config file hostRouter-specific config file network Network-wide config file system System image file RouterA(config)#boot system ? WORD TFTP filename or URL flash Boot from flash memory mopBoot from a Decnet MOP server rcpBoot from a server via rcp romBoot from rom tftp Boot from a tftp server RouterA(config)#boot system tftp ? WORD Configuration filename RouterA(config)#boot system tftp c1600-j-p.bin ? Hostname or A.B.C.D Address from which to download the boot config file RouterA(config)#boot system tftp c1600-j-p.bin 172.16.1.1 ? RouterA(config)#boot system tftp c1600-j-p.bin 172.16.1.1 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erlend Ringstad Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: tftp server download bombed!! [7:21975] the command is: boot system image ip not boot system tftp image ip At 04:34 04.10.2001, Cisco Nuts wrote: Hello, Just configured a 2501 router as a tftp server with the command: # tftp-server flash:c2500-ins-l.120.bin 10 # access-list 10 permit 172.16.12.0 Can ping to the client router at 172.16.12.2 On the client router configed the following: # no boot system # boot system tftp c2500-ins-l.120.bin 172.16.12.1 # boot system rom # config-register 0x010F # end # wr # reload When ther router reboots, I get the following error msg. %SYS-4-CONFIG_NEWER: Configurations from version 11.3 may not be correctly understood. Loading c2500-ins-l.120-19.bin [File not found] Flash boot: File 'c2500-d-l.113-11a.bin' open failed. Sleeping for 2 secs before next netboot attempt Loading c2500-ins-l.120-19.bin [File not found] And then the router finally boots to a R1-Moritz(boot) prompt. Can someone help out? Please advise. Thank you. Kind regards. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22105t=21975 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ipx in frame relay [7:22106]
hi, i have a not-fully-meshed frame relay network, 1 hub, 2 spokes. and i want to run IPX (d0h). help me out guys =) --erlend Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22106t=22106 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX - FLASH [7:21875]
According to the table, my pix only has 512K :( The best quote I have found for a 16M flash upgrade is $705 Does that sound right? Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Ellis Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PIX - FLASH [7:21875] 5.1 will load on 2MB or 16MB...that's why I said, 5.1! of course, that little cisco table is probably easier! thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco: www.optsys.net Pierre-Alex GUANEL wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Pardon my ignorance, but how will I load 5.1 unless I know I have enough flash to run the upgrade? I was hoping that Cisco would have a URL where you can enter the serial number and get the factory default. Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: Brad Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PIX - FLASH [7:21875] Load version 5.1 and do a show ver. It will tell you how much flash you have. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco: www.optsys.net Pierre-Alex GUANEL wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am trying to find out how much of flash I have on my PIX in order to upgrade. I am running Version 4.07 on my PIX 520. The show version does not return the amount of RAM. How can I find out my specs? Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22107t=21875 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945]
What's wrong with: Ethernet V. 1 Ethernet V. 2 Ethernet V. 3 Ethernet V. 4 etc... or would that be too simple? Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] At 09:27 PM 10/3/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote: IP uses ARPA, which is Cisco's ridiculous term for Ethernet II. isn't ARPA the acronym for the Advanced Research Project Agency, the progenitor of that which we all know, love, use, and derive our income from? Many of the early RFC's refer to ARPA-internet protocols. The Advanced Research ProjectS Agency invented TCP/IP. But they didn't invent Ethernet and I don't think the term arpa should be used to refer to an Ethernet frame type. I know why Cisco uses the term. There's an old RFC that talks about encapsulating IP in Ethernet frames. RFC implies ARPA. But I think they should call the Ethernet frame type something that has to do with the history of Ethernet, not the history of TCP/IP, especially since the frame type can be used for other protocols besides IP. How about: DIX Ethernet2 EthernetII EtherType or something! ;-) Priscilla A little respect for our history! ;- Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] At 09:39 PM 10/3/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: 1. See Priscilla's response first. 2. Your query wondering about what protocols other than Novell that can use the 802.3 frame makes me wonder if you have misunderstood encapsulation. Novell's encapsulations were developed prior to the IEEE finalizing their standards. They're Novell-proprietary. I understand your point, but, actually only Novell raw is proprietary. The other options for Novell encapsulation are all standard. ETHERNET_II, aka arpa, Ethernet V.2 and Ethernet II, is standard. ETHERNET_802.2, aka sap, and 802.3 with 802.2, is standard. ETHERNET_SNAP, aka snap, and 802.3 with 802.2 and SNAP, is standard. To illustrate this point, if you set the IPX encapsulation type to be novell-ether and you typed show ipx interface ethernet 0, you'll see novell-ether on the Ethernet 0 interface. However, if you type show interface ethernet 0, you'll see that the encapsulation is ARPA which is different than the IPX encapsulation on that same interface. I would say that's a bug (limitation) with show int. IP uses ARPA, which is Cisco's ridiculous term for Ethernet II. Other encapsulations are used for other protocols. The show int probably just shouldn't show the encapsulation if it's not going to be more specific. Priscilla -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lists Wizard Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written: Ethernet 802.3 Frames [7:21945] Hi Group, I am checking on the what the Certification Zone CD is saying about 802.3 ethernet frames. Here is what they say: Novell 802.3 raw frames do not use 802.2, so they do not have a protocol identifier. In practice, encapsulated IPX frames do have an hexadecimal FF in the first byte, so the protocol can be identified. my questions are: What protocols other than novell can use the 802.3 frame? How are they identified within the frame header? Any comments are welcomed Thanks Lists Wizard Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22108t=21945 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Orange lights on Catalyst 2900XL Switch [7:22109]
Hey all, I have a quick question regarding a Catalyst 2900XL Switch. All appears well, all the status LED's are green with the exception of two of them. Coincidentally, those two ports are connected to the Uplink ports of two Hubs. Now both hubs work fine, all connected devices work fine, a show int on the switch show's both the ports with a Orange LED as UP and the Line Protocol as being up. Physically all appears to be working. It just bothers me that those two ports are Orange. I thought Orange only meant one thing, NO GOOD. Just Curious if anyone else has experienced this. Thanks for your time -Rizzo This electronic mail transmission contains confidential information intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, distribution, copying, or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by replying to e-mail and destroy message. Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of MARAKON ASSOCIATES shall be understood to be neither given nor endorsed by the company. When addressed to MARAKON clients, any information contained in this e-mail is subject to the terms and conditions in the governing client contract. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22109t=22109 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TCP TURN? [7:22083]
Were there any Marketing types in these meetings? - Original Message - From: Ouellette, Tim To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: TCP TURN? [7:22083] Does anyone know what a TCP Turn is? I've heard this mentioned on a couple of conference calls i've been on lately and I can't seem to find out much information on it. Not sure if maybe it's a non-technical term used for a syn-ack type deal or what. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks a bunch! Tim Timothy Ouellette, Infrastructure Analyst MCSE, CCSE, CCNP/DP EDS - New Business Implementation 1075 W. Entrance Drive Auburn Hills, MI 48236 ( 01-248-754-7535 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pager 888-351-4584 www.eds.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22111t=22083 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipx in frame relay [7:22106]
uhhh... Are you familiar with ipx routing in general? I mean... what kind of help do you want? Erlend Ringstad 10/04/01 05:12PM hi, i have a not-fully-meshed frame relay network, 1 hub, 2 spokes. and i want to run IPX (d0h). help me out guys =) --erlend Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22113t=22106 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VPN Solution for Site to site Wireless connection [7:22101]
Can I see the quote? There is no way you should pay $7500 per router. I am sure I could get a quote at about 10k. Email me offline. John Kaberna CCIE #7146 NETCG Inc. Cisco Premier Partner www.netcginc.com (415) 750-3800 __ CCIE Security Training www.netcginc.com/training.htm Daniel Ma wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... We deployed some wireless bridges with 11Mbps throughput. We are seeking solutions which are not too expensive to encrypt 11Mbps. However, we calculated the cost, if we use cisco 2600 with VPN card, for one pair, the price easily goes over $15,000. Could any one provide solution around or under $10,000. Regardless the brand of products, as long as it works fine. Thanks, Daniel Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22112t=22101 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Orange lights on Catalyst 2900XL Switch [7:22109]
I believe in this case, the orange represents halfduplex Rizzo, Damian 10/04/01 05:28PM Hey all, I have a quick question regarding a Catalyst 2900XL Switch. All appears well, all the status LED's are green with the exception of two of them. Coincidentally, those two ports are connected to the Uplink ports of two Hubs. Now both hubs work fine, all connected devices work fine, a show int on the switch show's both the ports with a Orange LED as UP and the Line Protocol as being up. Physically all appears to be working. It just bothers me that those two ports are Orange. I thought Orange only meant one thing, NO GOOD. Just Curious if anyone else has experienced this. Thanks for your time -Rizzo This electronic mail transmission contains confidential information intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, distribution, copying, or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by replying to e-mail and destroy message. Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of MARAKON ASSOCIATES shall be understood to be neither given nor endorsed by the company. When addressed to MARAKON clients, any information contained in this e-mail is subject to the terms and conditions in the governing client contract. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22114t=22109 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSM sup1 vs sup1a w/msfc daughter [7:22069]
I also forgot to mention that it will not route Appletalk... IP and IPX only... (if that's a concern... I know it's not much of a big deal anymore, but it may still be of concern...) -Brant. - Original Message - From: MADMAN To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:12 PM Subject: Re: MSM sup1 vs sup1a w/msfc daughter [7:22069] I recall working on an MSM when the 6000 first came out and it wasn't pretty and the thing takes up a slot to boot. The config is not the same but I don't recall the details except you have to build channel between the MSM and the 6000 SUP. Didn't know they even sell the 6000/MSM anylonger! GO MSFC!!! Dave Patrick Ramsey wrote: Hey guys/gals, question... Does anyone have any experience with the older msm's compared to the newer msfc's? Is the configuration the same? What is gained by upgrading? thanks, -Patrick -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22116t=22069 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSM sup1 vs sup1a w/msfc daughter [7:22069]
In addition to not having to use sub-interfaces on a port channel for any more than 4 VLANs, the MSFC is capable of forwarding 15M packets/s, as opposed to 6? on the MSM. The integrated slot thing is another issue... Then there's an issue with the number of OSPF/EIGRP neighbors that you can have... I think the limit on the MSM was 10 before hanging the CPU... I'ev run into this personally, and had it reboot on me in the middle of configuration... that may have been a code issue, but still something to keep in mind... There's also the EOL issue... It's pretty clear that Cisco is going in the direction of the MSFC1/2 PFC1/2, so you have to wonder how much longer the MSM will be around, and how much longer they will service it... HTH, -Brant. - Original Message - From: MADMAN To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:12 PM Subject: Re: MSM sup1 vs sup1a w/msfc daughter [7:22069] I recall working on an MSM when the 6000 first came out and it wasn't pretty and the thing takes up a slot to boot. The config is not the same but I don't recall the details except you have to build channel between the MSM and the 6000 SUP. Didn't know they even sell the 6000/MSM anylonger! GO MSFC!!! Dave Patrick Ramsey wrote: Hey guys/gals, question... Does anyone have any experience with the older msm's compared to the newer msfc's? Is the configuration the same? What is gained by upgrading? thanks, -Patrick -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22115t=22069 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VPN Solution for Site to site Wireless connection [7:22101]
Is there any new small VPN module for Cisco1700 Series ? Daniel Ma We deployed some wireless bridges with 11Mbps throughput. We are seeking solutions which are not too expensive to encrypt 11Mbps. However, we calculated the cost, if we use cisco 2600 with VPN card, for one pair, the price easily goes over $15,000. Could any one provide solution around or under $10,000. Regardless the brand of products, as long as it works fine. Thanks, Daniel Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22119t=22101 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TCP TURN? [7:22083]
again there will be 5000 responses 4 this qs i guess why dont u search b4 posting - Original Message - From: Donald B Johnson jr To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:35 PM Subject: Re: TCP TURN? [7:22083] Next time somebody uses that term why don't you ask them what they mean. And if they give you a everybody knows don't you answer, ask them what RFC that is. - Original Message - From: Ouellette, Tim To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: TCP TURN? [7:22083] Does anyone know what a TCP Turn is? I've heard this mentioned on a couple of conference calls i've been on lately and I can't seem to find out much information on it. Not sure if maybe it's a non-technical term used for a syn-ack type deal or what. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks a bunch! Tim Timothy Ouellette, Infrastructure Analyst MCSE, CCSE, CCNP/DP EDS - New Business Implementation 1075 W. Entrance Drive Auburn Hills, MI 48236 ( 01-248-754-7535 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pager 888-351-4584 www.eds.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22120t=22083 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VPN Solution for Site to site Wireless connection [7:22101]
Low Cost VPN Accelating Module RANMA Is there any new small VPN module for Cisco1700 Series ? Daniel Ma We deployed some wireless bridges with 11Mbps throughput. We are seeking solutions which are not too expensive to encrypt 11Mbps. However, we calculated the cost, if we use cisco 2600 with VPN card, for one pair, the price easily goes over $15,000. Could any one provide solution around or under $10,000. Regardless the brand of products, as long as it works fine. Thanks, Daniel Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22121t=22101 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
