Thanks to you !! [7:29379]

2001-12-17 Thread Zajac Zdenk

After studying hard for a year under your influence, Groupstudy members, I
passed BCRAN, BCMSN, BSCN and finaly CIT.
Now, a next step before me, you know. 

Thanks to you all !!
Zdenek Zajac 
CCNP




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Re: static routes [7:29372]

2001-12-17 Thread Nick S.

You can also either/or (to what router man suggested) remove the ip
default-network command, and it would work as well..

Nick


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Re: Passed 640-505 Bcran [7:29353]

2001-12-17 Thread Cristian Piatnitchi

Thanks a lot and congrats !

Lee James wrote:

 A couple on the 700. But nothing to worry about. It was more product
 questions rather than set command questins.  I looked over the 700 series
 chapter briefly, but we dont use any at our remote sites where I work so
 didnt put too much emphasis. Learn more then just how to configure x25.
Most
 of the x25 questions are obscure theory questions and they are relentless
 with them. Again, something we dont use at work.

 Cristian Piatnitchi wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  How about the ugly Cisco 700 questions ?
  Any questions about this subject ?
 
  Michael Williams wrote:
 
   Congrats!  The BCRAN is difficult, so you should have no
  problems with the
   others (assuming you study well)
  
   Mike W.




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RE: 2509 connect fail Debug [7:29349]

2001-12-17 Thread McCallum, Robert

Sean,

Try 2 things.  do a show users and see if you have already tied up that
line.  If so do a clear line (then the number).  If that doesn't work you
might have to do a stop bits=1 on your terminal line as sometimes the
default is 1.5 stop bits.

-Original Message-
From: slloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 December 2001 21:07
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2509 connect fail Debug [7:29349]


Here's the Debug of my 2509 connection problem
R2509#telnet 10.1.1.1 2001
Trying 10.1.1.1, 2001 ...
% Connection refused by remote host

R2509#
06:02:47: TCB000C97C4 created
06:02:47: TCB000C97C4 setting property TCP_TOS (11) 1F2F7B
06:02:47: TCB000C97C4 bound to UNKNOWN.11035
06:02:47: TCP: sending SYN, seq 1297459931, ack 0
06:02:47: TCP0: Connection to 10.1.1.1:2001, advertising MSS 1474
06:02:47: tcp0: O CLOSED 10.1.1.1:2001 10.1.1.1:11035 seq 1297459931
OPTS 4 SYN  WIN 4128
06:02:47: IP: s=10.1.1.1 (local), d=10.1.1.1 (Loopback0), len 44, sending
06:02:47: TCP0: state was CLOSED - SYNSENT [11035 - 10.1.1.1(2001)]
06:02:47: IP: s=10.1.1.1 (Loopback0), d=10.1.1.1 (Loopback0), len 44, rcvd 3
06:02:47: tcp0: I LISTEN 10.1.1.1:11035 10.1.1.1:2001 seq 1297459931
OPTS 4 SYN  WIN 4128
06:02:47: TCP: connection attempt to port 2001
06:02:47: TCP: sending RST, seq 0, ack 1297459932
06:02:47: TCP: sent RST to 10.1.1.1:11035 from 10.1.1.1:2001
06:02:47: IP: s=10.1.1.1 (local), d=10.1.1.1 (Loopback0), len 40, sending
06:02:47: IP: s=10.1.1.1 (Loopback0), d=10.1.1.1 (Loopback0), len 40, rcvd 3
06:02:47: tcp0: I SYNSENT 10.1.1.1:2001 10.1.1.1:11035 seq 0
ACK 1297459932 RST  WIN 0
06:02:47: TCP0: state was SYNSENT - CLOSED [11035 - 10.1.1.1(2001)]
06:02:47: TCP0: bad seg from 10.1.1.1 -- closing connection: seq 0 ack
129745993
2 rcvnxt 0 rcvwnd 0
06:02:47: TCP0: connection closed - remote sent RST
06:02:47: TCB 0xC97C4 destroyed
IP arp mobility: aging arp mobility cache entries
[Resuming connection 1 to 10.1.1.1 ... ]

06:03:01: TTY0: pause timer type 1 (OK)
06:03:01: tcp0: O ESTAB 10.1.1.1:2001 10.1.1.1:11034 seq 1270605017
ACK 1270609385  WIN 4128
06:03:01: IP: s=10.1.1.1 (local), d=10.1.1.1 (Loopback0), len 40, sending
06:03:01: IP: s=10.1.1.1 (Loopback0), d=10.1.1.1 (Loopback0), len 40, rcvd 3
06:03:01: tcp1: I ESTAB 10.1.1.1:11034 10.1.1.1:2001 seq 1270605017
ACK 1270609385  WIN 4128
R2509#
06:03:05: tcp0: O ESTAB 10.1.1.1:2001 10.1.1.1:11034 seq 1270605017
ACK 1270609385  WIN 4128
06:03:05: IP: s=10.1.1.1 (local), d=10.1.1.1 (Loopback0), len 40, sending
06:03:05: TTY0: resume timer type 1 (OK)
06:03:05: TTY0: destroy timer type 4
06:03:05: IP: s=10.1.1.1 (Loopback0), d=10.1.1.1 (Loopback0), len 40, rcvd 3
06:03:05: tcp1: I ESTAB 10.1.1.1:11034 10.1.1.1:2001 seq 1270605017
ACK 1270609385  WIN 4128und all
- Original Message -
From: shawn lloyd 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: 2509 configuration [7:29343]


 - Original Message -
 Hi

 I'm configuring a 2509 terminal server for my home lab. The octal cable is
 connected to the console ports of my 5 routers. But when I try to
establish a
 telnet connection I receive the following :
 R2509#telnet 10.1.1.1 2001
 Trying 10.1.1.1, 2001 ... Open

 But nothing else happens. I'm not able to log into the router.
 THe configuration of the terminal server is

 !
 service udp-small-servers
 service tcp-small-servers
 !
 hostname R2509
 !
 enable secret cisco
 !
 no ip domain-lookup
 !
 ip host r1-2501 2001 10.1.1.1
 ip host r2-2501 2002 10.1.1.1
 ip host r3-2501 2003 10.1.1.1
 ip host r4-2502 2004 10.1.1.1
 ip host r5-2523 2005 10.1.1.1
 !
 interface Loopback0
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.255
 !
 ip classless
 !
 line con 0
 !
 line 1 8
 transport input all
 no exec
 line aux 0
 line vty 0 4
 login
 !
 end
 
 Router 1 configuration
 R1-2501#sh run
 Building configuration...

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 12.0
 service timestamps debug uptime
 service timestamps log uptime
 no service password-encryption
 !
 hostname R1-2501
 !
 !
 ip subnet-zero
 !
 !
 !
 interface Loopback0
  ip address 1.1.1.2 255.0.0.0
  no ip directed-broadcast
 !
 interface Ethernet0
  no ip address
  no ip directed-broadcast
  shutdown
 !
 interface Serial0
  no ip address
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip mroute-cache
  shutdown
  no fair-queue
 !
 interface Serial1
  no ip address
  no ip directed-broadcast
  shutdown
 !
 ip classless
 !
 !
 line con 0
  transport input none
 line aux 0
 line vty 0 4
  login
 !
 end




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About Frame Relay [7:29383]

2001-12-17 Thread Anthony Toh

Does anyone know any websites that have good  simple
introduction/explaination on Frame Relay network ? Pls direct me.

What does it mean by Frame Relay is a layer 2 protocol (Data link layer)
and Frame Relay works on the layer 2 of the OSI model ?

Appreciate for any enlightenment.


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Re: About Frame Relay [7:29383]

2001-12-17 Thread Brian

Heres a Cisco fundamentals site.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/frame.htm

Brian Whalen

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From: Anthony Toh 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:44 AM
Subject: About Frame Relay [7:29383]


 Does anyone know any websites that have good  simple
 introduction/explaination on Frame Relay network ? Pls direct me.

 What does it mean by Frame Relay is a layer 2 protocol (Data link layer)
 and Frame Relay works on the layer 2 of the OSI model ?

 Appreciate for any enlightenment.




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Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread Dennis Laganiere

I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is
between families of switches.  Here's what I've got so far:

IOS-Based 
Cat 1900 series
Cat 2820 series
Cat 2900XL series

Set-based
Cat5000 series
Cat 6000 series
Cat 6500 series
Cat 2900

However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and
uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches.  

Does that sound right?

--- Dennis




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Re: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread John Neiberger

The 1900 series is also menu-driven.  To make things more confusing,
their IOS-type command set is different than the IOS-like commands on
the 2900XL series.

John

 Dennis Laganiere  12/17/01 11:45:33
AM 
I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is
between families of switches.  Here's what I've got so far:

IOS-Based 
Cat 1900 series
Cat 2820 series
Cat 2900XL series

Set-based
Cat5000 series
Cat 6000 series
Cat 6500 series
Cat 2900

However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and
uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches.  

Does that sound right?

--- Dennis




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Re: Frame relay traffic shaping problem [7:28590]

2001-12-17 Thread Georg Naggies

hmm, must be standards not RFCs.

today I was asking en passant and was told one can teach the routers to
behave like nice switches with some connect commands


Chuck Larrieu  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 do RFC's cover how frame switches behave?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Georg Naggies
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 8:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Frame relay traffic shaping problem [7:28590]


 Can it be that Cisco Routers acting as FR switches never do...
 AFAIR they are just not fully RFC compliant.


 Tom Gardiner wrote:

  Folks,
 
  Would any of you folks have references to working scenarious
demonstrating
  frame relay qos.  I have been tearing by hair out to make my switch mark
  packets with Becns without success, no matter how much I choke the pipe.
 I
  am sure I am missing something basic.  I have included some of my
configs,
  if anyone cares to critique
 
  Thanks
 
  Tom Gardiner
 
  Router_4#sh frame-relay pvc
 
  PVC Statistics for interface Serial0/1 (Frame Relay DTE)
 
Active Inactive  Deleted   Static
Local  1000
Switched   0000
Unused 0000
 
  DLCI = 104, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
Serial0/1
 
input pkts 43364 output pkts 45110in bytes 35435312
out bytes 40742346   dropped pkts 0   in FECN pkts 0
in BECN pkts 0   out FECN pkts 0  out BECN pkts 0
in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
out bcast pkts 0 out bcast bytes 0
Shaping adapts to BECN
pvc create time 02:07:12, last time pvc status changed 02:07:12
  Router_4#sh frame-relay pvc
 
  PVC Statistics for interface Serial0/1 (Frame Relay DTE)
 
Active Inactive  Deleted   Static
Local  1000
Switched   0000
Unused 0000
 
  DLCI = 104, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
Serial0/1
 
input pkts 43418 output pkts 45176in bytes 35443159
out bytes 40746686   dropped pkts 0   in FECN pkts 0
in BECN pkts 0   out FECN pkts 0  out BECN pkts 0
in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
out bcast pkts 0 out bcast bytes 0
Shaping adapts to BECN
pvc create time 02:07:45, last time pvc status changed 02:07:45
 
  =
  Switch config
 
  Router_4#
 
  hostname Router_6
  !
  logging rate-limit console 10 except errors
  !
  ip subnet-zero
  no ip finger
  no ip domain-lookup
  !
  no ip dhcp-client network-discovery
  frame-relay switching
  !
  !
  !
  !
  interface Ethernet0
   ip address 10.1.1.200 255.255.255.0
   no ip route-cache
   no ip mroute-cache
  !
  interface Serial0
   no ip address
   encapsulation frame-relay
   no ip route-cache
   no ip mroute-cache
   logging event subif-link-status
   logging event dlci-status-change
   no fair-queue
   clockrate 400
   frame-relay traffic-shaping
   frame-relay interface-dlci 401 switched
class s0
   frame-relay intf-type dce
   frame-relay policing
   frame-relay congestion-management
  !
  interface Serial1
   no ip address
   encapsulation frame-relay
   no ip route-cache
   no ip mroute-cache
   logging event subif-link-status
   logging event dlci-status-change
   no fair-queue
   frame-relay traffic-shaping
   frame-relay interface-dlci 104 switched
class s1
   frame-relay intf-type dce
   frame-relay policing
   frame-relay congestion-management
  !
  ip kerberos source-interface any
  ip classless
  no ip http server
  !
  !
  map-class frame-relay s0
   frame-relay cir 400
   frame-relay mincir 200
   frame-relay holdq 10
   frame-relay adaptive-shaping becn
  !
  map-class frame-relay s1
   frame-relay cir 2000
   frame-relay mincir 1000
   frame-relay holdq 10
   frame-relay adaptive-shaping becn
  connect s0 Serial0 401 Serial1 104
   !
  !
  !
  ==
 
  typical frame relay client
 
  Building configuration...
 
  Current configuration:
  !
  version 11.3
  no service pad
  service timestamps debug uptime
  service timestamps log uptime
  no service password-encryption
  !
  hostname Router_2
  !
  !
  username Router_5 password 0 ipexpert
  ip subnet-zero
  no ip finger
  no ip domain-lookup
  isdn switch-type basic-ni
  !
  !
  process-max-time 200
  !
  interface Loopback0
   ip address 200.0.0.2 255.255.255.0
  !
  interface Ethernet0
   description connected to Cisco1538
   ip address 10.1.1.211 255.255.255.0
  !
  interface Serial0
   ip address 20.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
   encapsulation 

RE: CCIE Lab Book Review [7:28991]

2001-12-17 Thread Keyur Shah

It is a very good introductory book. I recommend using that book and
implement those labs on smaller rack (4-5 routers). Next step would be to do
more advanced labs like, IPExpert or Ccbootcamp.

-Keyur Shah-
CCIE# 4799 (Security; Routing and Switching)
css1,ccna,ccda,scsa,scna,mct,mcse,mcp+i,mcp,cni,mcne,cne,cna
Hello Computers
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Fax: 510.291.2250


-Original Message-
From: Elijah Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE Lab Book Review [7:28991]


Does anyone have any comments on this book not many reviews on Amazon. A guy
at work said this thing was so full of mistakes that he got so angry and
took it out to the gun range and filled it full of 44magnum holes and has it
displayed on his desk now, I just can't take his word for it and the few
reviews on Amazon were good reviews. 

Cisco CCIE
All In One Lab Lab Study Guide
ISBN 0-07-212760-0
By Stephen Hutnik  Micheal Satterlee




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RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread Daniel Cotts

Cisco has had two releases of the 2900XL series. The early ones were
deeper and (I believe) used a 9 pin console cable. I seem to remember that
they did not have the XL logo. Confirmation/denial requested from the list.

For set based command switches then best to be specific: 2901, 2926.

BTW 4000s are set based. 3500XL are IOS based.

 -Original Message-
 From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:14 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
 
 
 The 1900 series is also menu-driven.  To make things more confusing,
 their IOS-type command set is different than the IOS-like commands on
 the 2900XL series.
 
 John
 
  Dennis Laganiere  12/17/01 11:45:33
 AM 
 I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is
 between families of switches.  Here's what I've got so far:
 
 IOS-Based 
 Cat 1900 series
 Cat 2820 series
 Cat 2900XL series
 
 Set-based
 Cat5000 series
 Cat 6000 series
 Cat 6500 series
 Cat 2900
 
 However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and
 uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches.  
 
 Does that sound right?
 
 --- Dennis




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RE: Frame relay traffic shaping problem [7:28590]

2001-12-17 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 03:17 AM 12/17/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
do RFC's cover how frame switches behave?

Nope. Frame Relay is documented by the ITU-T and ANSI. The Frame Relay 
Forum specifies enhancements that they hope will become standards.

I would imagine some RFCs explain issues related to running TCP/IP over 
Frame Relay. One that comes to mind is RFC 2390 which defines Inverse ARP. 
But a Frame Relay switch wouldn't care about that.

But you knew that. ;-)

Priscilla


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Georg Naggies
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 8:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Frame relay traffic shaping problem [7:28590]


Can it be that Cisco Routers acting as FR switches never do...
AFAIR they are just not fully RFC compliant.


Tom Gardiner wrote:

  Folks,
 
  Would any of you folks have references to working scenarious
demonstrating
  frame relay qos.  I have been tearing by hair out to make my switch mark
  packets with Becns without success, no matter how much I choke the pipe.
I
  am sure I am missing something basic.  I have included some of my
configs,
  if anyone cares to critique
 
  Thanks
 
  Tom Gardiner
 
  Router_4#sh frame-relay pvc
 
  PVC Statistics for interface Serial0/1 (Frame Relay DTE)
 
Active Inactive  Deleted   Static
Local  1000
Switched   0000
Unused 0000
 
  DLCI = 104, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
Serial0/1
 
input pkts 43364 output pkts 45110in bytes 35435312
out bytes 40742346   dropped pkts 0   in FECN pkts 0
in BECN pkts 0   out FECN pkts 0  out BECN pkts 0
in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
out bcast pkts 0 out bcast bytes 0
Shaping adapts to BECN
pvc create time 02:07:12, last time pvc status changed 02:07:12
  Router_4#sh frame-relay pvc
 
  PVC Statistics for interface Serial0/1 (Frame Relay DTE)
 
Active Inactive  Deleted   Static
Local  1000
Switched   0000
Unused 0000
 
  DLCI = 104, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
Serial0/1
 
input pkts 43418 output pkts 45176in bytes 35443159
out bytes 40746686   dropped pkts 0   in FECN pkts 0
in BECN pkts 0   out FECN pkts 0  out BECN pkts 0
in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
out bcast pkts 0 out bcast bytes 0
Shaping adapts to BECN
pvc create time 02:07:45, last time pvc status changed 02:07:45
 
  =
  Switch config
 
  Router_4#
 
  hostname Router_6
  !
  logging rate-limit console 10 except errors
  !
  ip subnet-zero
  no ip finger
  no ip domain-lookup
  !
  no ip dhcp-client network-discovery
  frame-relay switching
  !
  !
  !
  !
  interface Ethernet0
   ip address 10.1.1.200 255.255.255.0
   no ip route-cache
   no ip mroute-cache
  !
  interface Serial0
   no ip address
   encapsulation frame-relay
   no ip route-cache
   no ip mroute-cache
   logging event subif-link-status
   logging event dlci-status-change
   no fair-queue
   clockrate 400
   frame-relay traffic-shaping
   frame-relay interface-dlci 401 switched
class s0
   frame-relay intf-type dce
   frame-relay policing
   frame-relay congestion-management
  !
  interface Serial1
   no ip address
   encapsulation frame-relay
   no ip route-cache
   no ip mroute-cache
   logging event subif-link-status
   logging event dlci-status-change
   no fair-queue
   frame-relay traffic-shaping
   frame-relay interface-dlci 104 switched
class s1
   frame-relay intf-type dce
   frame-relay policing
   frame-relay congestion-management
  !
  ip kerberos source-interface any
  ip classless
  no ip http server
  !
  !
  map-class frame-relay s0
   frame-relay cir 400
   frame-relay mincir 200
   frame-relay holdq 10
   frame-relay adaptive-shaping becn
  !
  map-class frame-relay s1
   frame-relay cir 2000
   frame-relay mincir 1000
   frame-relay holdq 10
   frame-relay adaptive-shaping becn
  connect s0 Serial0 401 Serial1 104
   !
  !
  !
  ==
 
  typical frame relay client
 
  Building configuration...
 
  Current configuration:
  !
  version 11.3
  no service pad
  service timestamps debug uptime
  service timestamps log uptime
  no service password-encryption
  !
  hostname Router_2
  !
  !
  username Router_5 password 0 ipexpert
  ip subnet-zero
  no ip finger
  no ip domain-lookup
  isdn switch-type basic-ni
  !
  !
  process-max-time 200
  !
  interface Loopback0
   ip address 200.0.0.2 255.255.255.0
  !
  

how to disable NAT in PIX firewall (both inside an [7:29303]

2001-12-17 Thread David Tran

Hi Everyone,

I am having problem setting up a network in this scenario

with my PIX515-UR firewall running version 6.1(1) with pdm

version 1.1(2).

I have a network with REGISTERED IP addresses. The

inside interface of the PIX is on the 129.174.1.0/24

network with IP address of 129.174.1.254. The outside

interface of the PIX is on the 66.61.46.0/24 network with

IP address of 66.61.46.120. The inside interface has

a security level of 100 and the outside interface has

security level of 0. On the inside internal network, I

have 10 workstations range from 129.174.1.1-10. These

workstations have the default gateway point to the

inside interface of the PIX.

I understand that for machines from the inside

network to access the Internet, the command nat

and global must be used. However, since I all of my

machines have valid (aka registered IP addresses), I

want to disabe NAT completely. For, example,

I want machine 129.174.1.1 to be able to browse and

ping any machines on the Internet. At the same time,

I don't want users from the Internet to be able to access

any of the workstations on the inside interface. I have

been searching for documentation on Cisco website

but it seems likemost of the example have to do with NAT

enable. There are a few examples that will disable NAT

but it is relatedto VPN which is something I don't want.

Furthermore, most of the examples fill with errors and

pretty worthless (for PIX anyway). If anyone has done

this before, let me know. I also include a copy of the config.

Thanks.

David

PIX Version 6.1(1)

nameif ethernet0 outside security0

nameif ethernet1 inside security100

nameif ethernet2 dmz security50

enable password sdfkjfdjjdfjksdf encrypted

passwd sdfjksdfkjsdfjksjf encrypted

hostname ciscopix

fixup protocol ftp 21

fixup protocol http 80

fixup protocol h323 1720

fixup protocol rsh 514

fixup protocol rtsp 554

fixup protocol smtp 25

fixup protocol sqlnet 1521

fixup protocol sip 5060

fixup protocol skinny 2000

names

access-list no-nat-list permit ip any any

access-list no-nat-list permit icmp any any

pager lines 24

interface ethernet0 auto

interface ethernet1 auto

interface ethernet2 auto

mtu outside 1500

mtu inside 1500

mtu dmz 1500

ip address outside 66.61.46.120 255.255.255.0

ip address inside 129.174.1.254 255.255.255.0

ip address dmz 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255

ip audit info action alarm

ip audit attack action alarm

no failover

failover timeout 0:00:00

failover poll 15

failover ip address outside 0.0.0.0

failover ip address inside 0.0.0.0

failover ip address dmz 0.0.0.0

pdm history enable

arp timeout 14400

nat (inside) 0 129.174.1.0 255.255.255.0

static (inside, outside) 129.174.1.0 129.174.1.0

conduit permit ip any any

conduit permit icmp any any

route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 66.61.46.254 1

timeout xlate 3:00:00

timeout conn 1:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00
sip

0:30:00 sip_media 0:02:00

timeout uauth 0:05:00 absolute

aaa-server TACACS+ protocol tacacs+

aaa-server RADIUS protocol radius

no snmp-server location

no snmp-server contact

snmp-server community public

no snmp-server enable traps

floodguard enable

no sysopt route dnat

telnet timeout 5

ssh timeout 5

terminal width 80




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RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread Bullock, Jason

right on with the menu driven on the early 1900's ...  they are goofy.



jason



-Original Message-
From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 02:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]


Cisco has had two releases of the 2900XL series. The early ones were

deeper and (I believe) used a 9 pin console cable. I seem to remember that

they did not have the XL logo. Confirmation/denial requested from the list.



For set based command switches then best to be specific: 2901, 2926.



BTW 4000s are set based. 3500XL are IOS based.



 -Original Message-

 From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:14 PM

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: Re: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

 

 

 The 1900 series is also menu-driven.  To make things more confusing,

 their IOS-type command set is different than the IOS-like commands on

 the 2900XL series.

 

 John

 

  Dennis Laganiere  12/17/01 11:45:33

 AM 

 I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is

 between families of switches.  Here's what I've got so far:

 

 IOS-Based 

 Cat 1900 series

 Cat 2820 series

 Cat 2900XL series

 

 Set-based

 Cat5000 series

 Cat 6000 series

 Cat 6500 series

 Cat 2900

 

 However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and

 uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches.  

 

 Does that sound right?

 

 --- Dennis




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Re: About Frame Relay [7:29383]

2001-12-17 Thread Dr Rita Puzmanova

See also Frame Relay Forum for basic guide, tutorials, primers and specs
(Implementation Agreements).

http://www.frforum.com

Very briefly: Frame Relay architecture encompasses only the lowest two
layers hence the _frame relay_ - at link layer. The bottom two layers
are just enough (even more than that) for a fast transport WAN service
over quite reliable physical links.

Rita

Anthony Toh wrote:
 
 Does anyone know any websites that have good  simple
 introduction/explaination on Frame Relay network ? Pls direct me.
 
 What does it mean by Frame Relay is a layer 2 protocol (Data link layer)
 and Frame Relay works on the layer 2 of the OSI model ?
 
 Appreciate for any enlightenment.




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need advice [7:29392]

2001-12-17 Thread mrfestus wariye

i have just finished my ccna programme and i am
currently doing a 2 month internship programme with an
outfit that runs a cyber cafe business that provides
internet access services for the public.
i am their interim network administrator.
i have noticed a lot of loopholes in the network. and
some of my problems i need answers to are:-

1. how do i use a single command line to deny access
to all pornographic/adult sites on the network.
2. some computers within the network are denied access
to network(to use network resources like the network
printer).but the same computers can see the shared
internet access.

your useful advise would be appreciated. 
yours truly,
festus taferi.




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Re: how to disable NAT in PIX firewall (both insid [7:29404]

2001-12-17 Thread Paul Borghese

Any address that matches a NAT command with an index of 0 will not be
translated.

The problem with your configuration is the STATIC command you are using.
The mask is invalid and then entire command is not necessary.  Also, what
are you trying to do with those access-lists?  They are not applied.  They
will compromise your security and is probably not necessary given your
simple setup.

Take care,

Paul Borghese

- Original Message -
From: David Tran 
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:13 PM
Subject: how to disable NAT in PIX firewall (both inside an [7:29303]


 Hi Everyone,

 I am having problem setting up a network in this scenario

 with my PIX515-UR firewall running version 6.1(1) with pdm

 version 1.1(2).

 I have a network with REGISTERED IP addresses. The

 inside interface of the PIX is on the 129.174.1.0/24

 network with IP address of 129.174.1.254. The outside

 interface of the PIX is on the 66.61.46.0/24 network with

 IP address of 66.61.46.120. The inside interface has

 a security level of 100 and the outside interface has

 security level of 0. On the inside internal network, I

 have 10 workstations range from 129.174.1.1-10. These

 workstations have the default gateway point to the

 inside interface of the PIX.

 I understand that for machines from the inside

 network to access the Internet, the command nat

 and global must be used. However, since I all of my

 machines have valid (aka registered IP addresses), I

 want to disabe NAT completely. For, example,

 I want machine 129.174.1.1 to be able to browse and

 ping any machines on the Internet. At the same time,

 I don't want users from the Internet to be able to access

 any of the workstations on the inside interface. I have

 been searching for documentation on Cisco website

 but it seems likemost of the example have to do with NAT

 enable. There are a few examples that will disable NAT

 but it is relatedto VPN which is something I don't want.

 Furthermore, most of the examples fill with errors and

 pretty worthless (for PIX anyway). If anyone has done

 this before, let me know. I also include a copy of the config.

 Thanks.

 David

 PIX Version 6.1(1)

 nameif ethernet0 outside security0

 nameif ethernet1 inside security100

 nameif ethernet2 dmz security50

 enable password sdfkjfdjjdfjksdf encrypted

 passwd sdfjksdfkjsdfjksjf encrypted

 hostname ciscopix

 fixup protocol ftp 21

 fixup protocol http 80

 fixup protocol h323 1720

 fixup protocol rsh 514

 fixup protocol rtsp 554

 fixup protocol smtp 25

 fixup protocol sqlnet 1521

 fixup protocol sip 5060

 fixup protocol skinny 2000

 names

 access-list no-nat-list permit ip any any

 access-list no-nat-list permit icmp any any

 pager lines 24

 interface ethernet0 auto

 interface ethernet1 auto

 interface ethernet2 auto

 mtu outside 1500

 mtu inside 1500

 mtu dmz 1500

 ip address outside 66.61.46.120 255.255.255.0

 ip address inside 129.174.1.254 255.255.255.0

 ip address dmz 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255

 ip audit info action alarm

 ip audit attack action alarm

 no failover

 failover timeout 0:00:00

 failover poll 15

 failover ip address outside 0.0.0.0

 failover ip address inside 0.0.0.0

 failover ip address dmz 0.0.0.0

 pdm history enable

 arp timeout 14400

 nat (inside) 0 129.174.1.0 255.255.255.0

 static (inside, outside) 129.174.1.0 129.174.1.0

 conduit permit ip any any

 conduit permit icmp any any

 route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 66.61.46.254 1

 timeout xlate 3:00:00

 timeout conn 1:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 rpc 0:10:00 h323
0:05:00
 sip

 0:30:00 sip_media 0:02:00

 timeout uauth 0:05:00 absolute

 aaa-server TACACS+ protocol tacacs+

 aaa-server RADIUS protocol radius

 no snmp-server location

 no snmp-server contact

 snmp-server community public

 no snmp-server enable traps

 floodguard enable

 no sysopt route dnat

 telnet timeout 5

 ssh timeout 5

 terminal width 80




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Re: This Arab tried to attack me. [7:29190]

2001-12-17 Thread Muhammad Alkhattab

I just ran a scan from symantec and I do have 100 infected files.I am now
downloading the virus protected software.Thanks for your understanding Paul.
This is for those who think I am an Arab,Which is fine with me.Because I am
proud of who I am and what I believe in.I was born and raise in  Trinidad
and Tobago West Indies  and my ancestors are from Africa and I reverted  to
Islam since 1974(27 years) which included changing my name from a Christian
name to a Muslim name.I my heart I have no color and no nationality.I hurt
when I see pain all over the world.This much I would say about myself.

Muhammad  Alkhattab
- Original Message -
From: Paul Borghese 
To: Muhammad Alkhattab 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: This Arab tried to attack me. [7:29190]


 I have receive a number of e-mails that look like they originated from you
 with viruses attached.   Plus I have receive complaints from others about
 receiving viruses from you.  Not that you did this malicious.  Just the
 automated type that is sent out after an infection.  It happens to all of
 us.  You may want to scan your system for viruses just to be safe.

  Of course it could be an imposter because the e-mails always had the from
 address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Notice the _ in the e-mail address.

 Take care,

 Paul
 - Original Message -
 From: Muhammad Alkhattab 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:54 AM
 Subject: Re: This Arab tried to attack me. [7:29190]


  Who ever you are.I have never sent you any virus.I myself has been
 receiving
  spams(mails that have never sent).
 
  Muhammad  Alkhattab
  - Original Message -
  From: Jon Street
  To:
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:56 AM
  Subject: This Arab tried to attack me. [7:29190]
 
 
   Muhammad Alkhattab e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED] must have taken

   offence to my statments about those who said on this fourm about us
  needing
   to understand the terrorists issues and why they are so angry with us.
  This
   little worm tried sending me viruses to screw up my computer. I just
  wanted
   to let everyone know who this person is.




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RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Williams

I believe you are correct that the earlier 2900XL switches were (much)
deeper and required a DB9 console connector.  All of the 2900s I've ever
used were IOS based, not set based.  However, I can't say I've used all of
the different models 2900 out there =)

Mike

Daniel Cotts wrote:
 
 Cisco has had two releases of the 2900XL series. The early
 ones were
 deeper and (I believe) used a 9 pin console cable. I seem to
 remember that
 they did not have the XL logo. Confirmation/denial requested
 from the list.
 
 For set based command switches then best to be specific: 2901,
 2926.
 
 BTW 4000s are set based. 3500XL are IOS based.



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RE: 2509 configuration [7:29343]

2001-12-17 Thread travis marlow

just hit enter once it says open.


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RE: Can I make the etherchannel over mutiple device li [7:29378]

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Williams

AFAIK, I don't think this is possible.  Most of the implementations of
etherchannel I've seen (I could be wrong, but someone will let me know I'm
sure) require the the ports in the etherchannel be contiguous.

It is possible with newer version of the IOS, however, to perform
Multichassis PPP Multilink.  Perhaps this could be used to help your
situation.

Back on the topic of wierd conditions for etherchannel to work, I found a
document talking about Etherchannel on the Cat5000.  For instance, if you
have a blade of 12 - fastethernet ports in a 5000, there are only certain
ways you can setup your etherchannels.  In the following (ASCII) example,
each letter will represent a switchport with an 'x' indicating 'not in use'
and '|' indicates a break in the logical 4 port grouping the EtherChannel
Bundling Controller (EBC) sees:

 |  | 
This is valid, three channels of four ports each.

AABB | CCxx | DDEE
This is valid, but it will be viewed as six channels of 2 ports each.

 | BBxx | 
This is valid, one channel of four ports, and one channel of 2 ports.

xxAA | AAxx | 
This is invalid, as all ports aren't in the same group (of 4 ports)

xxAA |  | 
This is invalid, as you cannot channel ports 3/4 without ports 1/2 in a 4
port group.

xAAA |  | 
This is invalid:  only 3 ports in the channel.

xAAx |  | 
This is invalid as channels MUST start with an odd numbered port.

Just though it was interesting enough to share =)

Mike W.




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Re: Can I make the etherchannel over mutiple device like 3500? [7:29409]

2001-12-17 Thread VoIP Guy

I think it's possible although I've never read anywhere that you could.  On
a Nortel Passport 8100/8600 you can.

cage  wrote in message
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 Can I make the etherchannel between the mutiple device statck like 3500?




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OT: Error on Cat6500..... [7:29411]

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Williams

I had a Cat6500 setup in the basement and was using for testing on various
things.  We moved it up into our Data Center.  I wiped NVRAM on both Sup
engines (separately), and not it's booted up and running on the Sup in slot
2 (with the Sup in slot 1 (supposedly) in standby mode).

From the console, I get this repeating error message:

%C6KPWR-SP-4-DISABLED:  power to module in slot 1 is set off (admin reque)

I never received this message the entire time I was using in the basement. 
I'm going to go and shut it down, yank the two Sups and reseat them just to
make sure they're okay Just curious to see if there was any specific
cause for this message.  I searched Cisco's site to no avail.

Thanks!
Mike W.



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Re: Can I make the etherchannel over mutiple device li [7:29412]

2001-12-17 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Maybe I read his question wrong, but if he's got a 6500 in 1 closet and a
stack of 3500's in a different closet, I believe it's possible to
etherchannel from the 6500 to the stack.  If he's staticng that he's trying
to go from stack to stack, I'm not so sure unless the management software
could handle it (and I doubt it does, since the ASIC's on some switches can
be so picky).  Maybe I'm reading too much into his question though.


Michael Williams  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 AFAIK, I don't think this is possible.  Most of the implementations of
 etherchannel I've seen (I could be wrong, but someone will let me know I'm
 sure) require the the ports in the etherchannel be contiguous.

 It is possible with newer version of the IOS, however, to perform
 Multichassis PPP Multilink.  Perhaps this could be used to help your
 situation.

 Back on the topic of wierd conditions for etherchannel to work, I found a
 document talking about Etherchannel on the Cat5000.  For instance, if you
 have a blade of 12 - fastethernet ports in a 5000, there are only certain
 ways you can setup your etherchannels.  In the following (ASCII) example,
 each letter will represent a switchport with an 'x' indicating 'not in
use'
 and '|' indicates a break in the logical 4 port grouping the EtherChannel
 Bundling Controller (EBC) sees:

  |  | 
 This is valid, three channels of four ports each.

 AABB | CCxx | DDEE
 This is valid, but it will be viewed as six channels of 2 ports each.

  | BBxx | 
 This is valid, one channel of four ports, and one channel of 2 ports.

 xxAA | AAxx | 
 This is invalid, as all ports aren't in the same group (of 4 ports)

 xxAA |  | 
 This is invalid, as you cannot channel ports 3/4 without ports 1/2 in a 4
 port group.

 xAAA |  | 
 This is invalid:  only 3 ports in the channel.

 xAAx |  | 
 This is invalid as channels MUST start with an odd numbered port.

 Just though it was interesting enough to share =)

 Mike W.




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Re: cisco academy's routing skills final ,tough!!! [7:29212]

2001-12-17 Thread Tom Lisa

I didn't take offense, Priscilla.  BTW, we now have a ver. 2 of the BCRAN
course (haven't had a chance to review it yet -- another Winter Break
project) and hopefully the new skills based final will be less stressful. 
Part
of the problem with the first one was more with the ambiguous instructions
rather than the knowledge level required.

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

 I wasn't criticizing the teacher. I just wanted to make that clear. ;-)

 Designing a final exam that everyone fails just seems like a poor method of
 eduction. We learned to do the opposite in the education classes I took
 recently. I realize that the design is Cisco's, not the Academy
instructor's.

 Priscilla

 At 03:13 PM 12/14/01, you wrote:
 I resemble that remark!
 
 Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
 Community College of Southern Nevada
 Cisco Regional Networking Academy
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
   It sounds like some old-fashioned meanie wrote this test.
 
   Priscilla
  
   At 12:32 PM 12/14/01, brian hall wrote:
   Just a message to those who (like me!) thinking that reading, doing
  labs and
   taking multiple choice test will prepare you for the real world and
   (hopefully)the CCIE lab need to be exposed to cisco's network accademy
   semester 5 skills final . I just took it yesterday and failed . In
  fact the
   whole class failed.
   
   One of our students who scored high on most test and blazed through
the
   final written exam in 10 mins, walked out in frustration .
   Another student who works as an administrator, was are best chance of
  having
   someone pass missed it . I myself knew after an hour that if you don't
  have
   those commands down cold with a solid understanding of how to
  implement them
   your GOOSE is cooked !!! . You do have the option to have your own
 written
   notes to help but that might weigh you down if too much is in front of
  you .
   Working on idividual labs is one thing but putting the whole
environment
   together is a whole different animal .
   
   Once given the actual skills asessment designing, implementing and
 trouble
   shooting you assume that this ones in the bag . The environment wasn't
  large
   and looking back at the running config's there wasnt much to them
  other than
   having MED and CBAC . Ah!!! but how wrong I was!!! I'll spare the
 details
   and say that this was an eye opener . It showed me what I really don't
  know
   and to do the job in the real world will take a lot work on my part .
   
   Buyer Beware !!!
   
   Overall it was good to go through and to be pushed just shows the weak
  areas
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Re: cisco academy's routing skills final ,tough!!! [7:29212]

2001-12-17 Thread Tom Lisa

Oh, I don't know; maybe they might be trying to take the paper aspect out
of the cert
you're studying to get?

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy

Doug wrote:

 Well, I am taking my test in Aurora, CO. We will have 2.5 hrs and no
 group...one shot...wonderful, huh!

 Wonder how they come up with this final?
 Doug




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hsrp/ospf/eigrp for redundant internet [7:29417]

2001-12-17 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Ok guys/gals,

I have a scenario here that I am trying to implement and before I start
working on it, I would like some personal opinions/expereinces from anyone
that cares to respond.

we have 6 major facilities all connected via various speed wan links.  Each
facillity has it's own connection to the internet with default routes set
accordingly.  Each facillity then has statics back to each of the other
facillites.

Currently their is no redundancy in the internet connectivity.  If one site
loses it's internet T, then it's down until that T comes back.  Nobody has
ever complained about this being an issue, but it just seems a bit silly to
pay for 6 T's and not get full use of them.

I have never setup hsrp before and am reading about it right now.  But is
hsrp all that I need to accomplish this task?

each facillity has mulitple networks seperated by it's core layer3 switch,
then the wan links are either 2600's or 3600's

thanks!

-Patrick




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RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread Bolton, Travis

I know that the 2948G and 2980 switches are Cat Based not IOS.

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]


Cisco has had two releases of the 2900XL series. The early ones were
deeper and (I believe) used a 9 pin console cable. I seem to remember that
they did not have the XL logo. Confirmation/denial requested from the list.

For set based command switches then best to be specific: 2901, 2926.

BTW 4000s are set based. 3500XL are IOS based.

 -Original Message-
 From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:14 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
 
 
 The 1900 series is also menu-driven.  To make things more confusing,
 their IOS-type command set is different than the IOS-like commands on
 the 2900XL series.
 
 John
 
  Dennis Laganiere  12/17/01 11:45:33
 AM 
 I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is
 between families of switches.  Here's what I've got so far:
 
 IOS-Based 
 Cat 1900 series
 Cat 2820 series
 Cat 2900XL series
 
 Set-based
 Cat5000 series
 Cat 6000 series
 Cat 6500 series
 Cat 2900
 
 However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and
 uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches.  
 
 Does that sound right?
 
 --- Dennis




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Re: cisco academy's routing skills final ,tough!!! [7:29212]

2001-12-17 Thread Tom Lisa

Although I would prefer that all my students passed on the first try, you
are correct in your assessment.  Unfortunately, having passed the CCNA
exam does not guarantee success at the CCNP level.  I have stated
before that I like to compare the Cisco certs to the Crafts skills
designators.
I consider the CCNA an apprentice, the CCNP journeyman, and
CCIE master craftsman level of expertise.  Not all apprentices make it
to the journeyman level and very few journeymen ascend to the Master
craftsman level.

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy


Brian Whalen wrote:

 I really don't agree that everyone should pass, tho perhaps that was a
 wisecrack I didn't see.  Inevitably in any class some students try and
 some don't.  If everyone fails then yes perhaps that is a problem, but
 given the material difficulty, I would expect a substantial failure rate.

 Brian Sonic Whalen
 Success = Preparation + Opportunity

 On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, Tom Lisa wrote:

  I resemble that remark!
 
  Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
  Community College of Southern Nevada
  Cisco Regional Networking Academy
 
  Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
   It sounds like some old-fashioned meanie wrote this test.
 
   Priscilla
  
   At 12:32 PM 12/14/01, brian hall wrote:
   Just a message to those who (like me!) thinking that reading, doing
labs
  and
   taking multiple choice test will prepare you for the real world and
   (hopefully)the CCIE lab need to be exposed to cisco's network accademy
   semester 5 skills final . I just took it yesterday and failed . In
fact
  the
   whole class failed.
   
   One of our students who scored high on most test and blazed through
the
   final written exam in 10 mins, walked out in frustration .
   Another student who works as an administrator, was are best chance of
  having
   someone pass missed it . I myself knew after an hour that if you don't
  have
   those commands down cold with a solid understanding of how to
implement
  them
   your GOOSE is cooked !!! . You do have the option to have your own
written
   notes to help but that might weigh you down if too much is in front of
  you .
   Working on idividual labs is one thing but putting the whole
environment
   together is a whole different animal .
   
   Once given the actual skills asessment designing, implementing and
trouble
   shooting you assume that this ones in the bag . The environment wasn't
  large
   and looking back at the running config's there wasnt much to them
other
  than
   having MED and CBAC . Ah!!! but how wrong I was!!! I'll spare the
details
   and say that this was an eye opener . It showed me what I really don't
  know
   and to do the job in the real world will take a lot work on my part .
   
   Buyer Beware !!!
   
   Overall it was good to go through and to be pushed just shows the weak
  areas
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Re: cisco academy's routing skills final ,tough!!! [7:29212]

2001-12-17 Thread Tom Lisa

Priscilla,

Every component of the skills based exam is seen by the students during the
semester.
The academic portion is presented, and then one or more labs on that area
are given.
This volume of labs done during the semester, nearly 60, may also contribute
to the
problem.  Version 2 of the curriculum combines and reduces the number of lab
assignments.  Time will tell whether this is good or bad.

In addition to my previous comment regarding clarity of the instructions,
perhaps we are
requiring too much in the time allotted.  BTW, my students get to use any
handwritten
notes they have during the exam.

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy



Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

 It wasn't a wisecrack, but it wasn't very well stated. The final exam
 should be a summary of what was taught and practiced in class. It shouldn't
 contain surprises or new materials or test new skills that weren't
 developed in the course.

 The course developer's goal should be that everyone passes. Everyone
 passing means the course worked. That doesn't mean that everyone will. In
 this particular example, I would imagine that to pass, a student has to
 spend a lot of time practicing. Ensuring that is outside the course
 developer's control. On the other hand, the course developer could
 incorporate lots of labs, practice tests, etc., into the materials. It
 sounds to me like the interim tests were multiple choice and the final was
 hands-on. That's broken.

 Priscilla

 At 05:42 PM 12/16/01, Brian Whalen wrote:
 I really don't agree that everyone should pass, tho perhaps that was a
 wisecrack I didn't see.  Inevitably in any class some students try and
 some don't.  If everyone fails then yes perhaps that is a problem, but
 given the material difficulty, I would expect a substantial failure rate.
 
 Brian Sonic Whalen
 Success = Preparation + Opportunity
 
 
 On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, Tom Lisa wrote:
 
   I resemble that remark!
  
   Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
   Community College of Southern Nevada
   Cisco Regional Networking Academy
  
   Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
  
It sounds like some old-fashioned meanie wrote this test.
  
Priscilla
   
At 12:32 PM 12/14/01, brian hall wrote:
Just a message to those who (like me!) thinking that reading, doing
 labs
   and
taking multiple choice test will prepare you for the real world and
(hopefully)the CCIE lab need to be exposed to cisco's network
accademy
semester 5 skills final . I just took it yesterday and failed . In
 fact
   the
whole class failed.

One of our students who scored high on most test and blazed through
 the
final written exam in 10 mins, walked out in frustration .
Another student who works as an administrator, was are best chance
of
   having
someone pass missed it . I myself knew after an hour that if you
don't
   have
those commands down cold with a solid understanding of how to
 implement
   them
your GOOSE is cooked !!! . You do have the option to have your own
 written
notes to help but that might weigh you down if too much is in front
of
   you .
Working on idividual labs is one thing but putting the whole
 environment
together is a whole different animal .

Once given the actual skills asessment designing, implementing and
 trouble
shooting you assume that this ones in the bag . The environment
wasn't
   large
and looking back at the running config's there wasnt much to them
 other
   than
having MED and CBAC . Ah!!! but how wrong I was!!! I'll spare the
 details
and say that this was an eye opener . It showed me what I really
don't
   know
and to do the job in the real world will take a lot work on my part
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Re: hsrp/ospf/eigrp for redundant internet [7:29417]

2001-12-17 Thread Brian Whalen

If each site has multiple links, are they to the same or different
providers?  If each only has 1 link, then regardless of what routing
method you use, a down linl=a down site.  You could get an as, do ibgp
between them and make them multihomed, though that costs dough.  At a
minumum, you could dual home each site to the same provider, thereby not
needing bgp..

Brian Sonic Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Patrick Ramsey wrote:

 Ok guys/gals,

 I have a scenario here that I am trying to implement and before I start
 working on it, I would like some personal opinions/expereinces from anyone
 that cares to respond.

 we have 6 major facilities all connected via various speed wan links.  Each
 facillity has it's own connection to the internet with default routes set
 accordingly.  Each facillity then has statics back to each of the other
 facillites.

 Currently their is no redundancy in the internet connectivity.  If one site
 loses it's internet T, then it's down until that T comes back.  Nobody has
 ever complained about this being an issue, but it just seems a bit silly to
 pay for 6 T's and not get full use of them.

 I have never setup hsrp before and am reading about it right now.  But is
 hsrp all that I need to accomplish this task?

 each facillity has mulitple networks seperated by it's core layer3 switch,
 then the wan links are either 2600's or 3600's

 thanks!

 -Patrick




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Re: Can I make the etherchannel over mutiple device li [7:29422]

2001-12-17 Thread MADMAN

Michael Williams wrote:
 
 AFAIK, I don't think this is possible.  Most of the implementations of
 etherchannel I've seen (I could be wrong, but someone will let me know I'm
 sure) require the the ports in the etherchannel be contiguous.
 

  Since you asked:)  It's very possible to etherchannel accross ports
and even cards as long as your using 6xxx and 4xxx switches and I
believe GSR's.  If there are others I'm sure someone will remind me;)

  Dave

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Re: hsrp/ospf/eigrp for redundant internet [7:29417]

2001-12-17 Thread Patrick Ramsey

well each site has one link to the inernet but it also has it's wan link to
the enterprise.  What I want though is for one site's internet connection to
go down and it be able to use it's wan link to find another way to get to
the internet.

-Patrick

 Brian Whalen  12/17/01 04:46PM 
If each site has multiple links, are they to the same or different
providers?  If each only has 1 link, then regardless of what routing
method you use, a down linl=a down site.  You could get an as, do ibgp
between them and make them multihomed, though that costs dough.  At a
minumum, you could dual home each site to the same provider, thereby not
needing bgp..

Brian Sonic Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Patrick Ramsey wrote:

 Ok guys/gals,

 I have a scenario here that I am trying to implement and before I start
 working on it, I would like some personal opinions/expereinces from anyone
 that cares to respond.

 we have 6 major facilities all connected via various speed wan links.  Each
 facillity has it's own connection to the internet with default routes set
 accordingly.  Each facillity then has statics back to each of the other
 facillites.

 Currently their is no redundancy in the internet connectivity.  If one site
 loses it's internet T, then it's down until that T comes back.  Nobody has
 ever complained about this being an issue, but it just seems a bit silly to
 pay for 6 T's and not get full use of them.

 I have never setup hsrp before and am reading about it right now.  But is
 hsrp all that I need to accomplish this task?

 each facillity has mulitple networks seperated by it's core layer3 switch,
 then the wan links are either 2600's or 3600's

 thanks!

 -Patrick




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Re: hsrp/ospf/eigrp for redundant internet [7:29417]

2001-12-17 Thread Brian Whalen

backup default route, just use a higher metric.  Assuming you are willing
to do that..

Brian Sonic Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Patrick Ramsey wrote:

 well each site has one link to the inernet but it also has it's wan link
to the enterprise.  What I want though is for one site's internet connection
to go down and it be able to use it's wan link to find another way to get to
the internet.

 -Patrick

  Brian Whalen  12/17/01 04:46PM 
 If each site has multiple links, are they to the same or different
 providers?  If each only has 1 link, then regardless of what routing
 method you use, a down linl=a down site.  You could get an as, do ibgp
 between them and make them multihomed, though that costs dough.  At a
 minumum, you could dual home each site to the same provider, thereby not
 needing bgp..

 Brian Sonic Whalen
 Success = Preparation + Opportunity


 On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Patrick Ramsey wrote:

  Ok guys/gals,
 
  I have a scenario here that I am trying to implement and before I start
  working on it, I would like some personal opinions/expereinces from
anyone
  that cares to respond.
 
  we have 6 major facilities all connected via various speed wan links. 
Each
  facillity has it's own connection to the internet with default routes set
  accordingly.  Each facillity then has statics back to each of the other
  facillites.
 
  Currently their is no redundancy in the internet connectivity.  If one
site
  loses it's internet T, then it's down until that T comes back.  Nobody
has
  ever complained about this being an issue, but it just seems a bit silly
to
  pay for 6 T's and not get full use of them.
 
  I have never setup hsrp before and am reading about it right now.  But is
  hsrp all that I need to accomplish this task?
 
  each facillity has mulitple networks seperated by it's core layer3
switch,
  then the wan links are either 2600's or 3600's
 
  thanks!
 
  -Patrick




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Re: hsrp/ospf/eigrp for redundant internet [7:29417]

2001-12-17 Thread John Neiberger

HSRP is for backing up LAN connections.  It will not work in your
situation as I understand it.

If you're using OSPF you could restructure things so that your border
routers are injecting 0.0.0.0/0 as an E1 route into the area.  If you
let those propagate throughout your network each router will choose the
closest available exit.  This assumes that this use of default routing
won't break something else you're doing.

Perhaps you could also do this manually using weighted static default
routes in your areas.

HTH,
John

 Patrick Ramsey  12/17/01 3:51:08 PM

Ok guys/gals,

I have a scenario here that I am trying to implement and before I
start
working on it, I would like some personal opinions/expereinces from
anyone
that cares to respond.

we have 6 major facilities all connected via various speed wan links. 
Each
facillity has it's own connection to the internet with default routes
set
accordingly.  Each facillity then has statics back to each of the
other
facillites.

Currently their is no redundancy in the internet connectivity.  If one
site
loses it's internet T, then it's down until that T comes back.  Nobody
has
ever complained about this being an issue, but it just seems a bit
silly to
pay for 6 T's and not get full use of them.

I have never setup hsrp before and am reading about it right now.  But
is
hsrp all that I need to accomplish this task?

each facillity has mulitple networks seperated by it's core layer3
switch,
then the wan links are either 2600's or 3600's

thanks!

-Patrick




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RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

I've got one of the older 2900XL switches that can't be upgraded to the
newest 2900XL IOS software.  It isn't deeper than any other 2900XL switch
I've seen.  It also uses a standard console cable - the same that you would
use with a Cisco router.

My early 2900XL is also IOS-based, and not CatOS nor menu-driven.

The 2948G layer 3 switch (and 2980 I'd assume as well although I haven't
kept on top of switch releases and this one I'm not familiar with) use CatOS
commands but these switches are not part of the XL line.  And if I recall
correctly, the old obsoleted 2901 switch was also CatOS based (and again
isn't part of the XL line).

The 2900XL series is funky in that although it does use IOS-based commands,
they don't follow the traditional commands - so yes Dennis you are correct.
Whether you're correct on which commands differ, I can't confirm that at the
moment (although I do recall that the trunking and portfast commands are
different and irritatingly so).


  -- Leigh Anne


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I know that the 2948G and 2980 switches are Cat Based not IOS.

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Cisco has had two releases of the 2900XL series. The early ones were
deeper and (I believe) used a 9 pin console cable. I seem to remember that
they did not have the XL logo. Confirmation/denial requested from the list.

For set based command switches then best to be specific: 2901, 2926.

BTW 4000s are set based. 3500XL are IOS based.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:14 PM
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 Subject: Re: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]


 The 1900 series is also menu-driven.  To make things more confusing,
 their IOS-type command set is different than the IOS-like commands on
 the 2900XL series.

 John

  Dennis Laganiere  12/17/01 11:45:33
 AM 
 I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is
 between families of switches.  Here's what I've got so far:

 IOS-Based
 Cat 1900 series
 Cat 2820 series
 Cat 2900XL series

 Set-based
 Cat5000 series
 Cat 6000 series
 Cat 6500 series
 Cat 2900

 However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and
 uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches.

 Does that sound right?

 --- Dennis




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RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

By the way Dennis - if you truly want to find the demarcation point, search
all of Cisco's old press releases.  You'll find the origins of each switch
and understand the different OS supported by each.  I found it fascinating
research when I did it...


  -- Leigh Anne

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Subject: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]


I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is
between families of switches.  Here's what I've got so far:

IOS-Based
Cat 1900 series
Cat 2820 series
Cat 2900XL series

Set-based
Cat5000 series
Cat 6000 series
Cat 6500 series
Cat 2900

However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and
uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches.

Does that sound right?

--- Dennis




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CCIE SECURITY WORK BOOK [7:29429]

2001-12-17 Thread CRG

I am planning on purchasing the CCIE SECURITY WORK BOOK for a Christmas
gift.  Any one have any feedback on this book or know of a cheaper price
than $200?



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need advice [7:29392]

2001-12-17 Thread graham claudette

I am planning on purchasing the CCIE SECURITY WORK BOOK for a Christmas
gift.  Any one have any feedback on this book or know of a cheaper price
than $200?
 




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Re: hsrp/ospf/eigrp for redundant internet [7:29417]

2001-12-17 Thread MADMAN

No HSRP is not for you.  HSPR provides redundancy when you have two
routers on the same LAN.  You simply need to set up a floating default
to another location that makes the most sense as a backup from a
particular site.

  Dave

Patrick Ramsey wrote:
 
 Ok guys/gals,
 
 I have a scenario here that I am trying to implement and before I start
 working on it, I would like some personal opinions/expereinces from anyone
 that cares to respond.
 
 we have 6 major facilities all connected via various speed wan links.  Each
 facillity has it's own connection to the internet with default routes set
 accordingly.  Each facillity then has statics back to each of the other
 facillites.
 
 Currently their is no redundancy in the internet connectivity.  If one site
 loses it's internet T, then it's down until that T comes back.  Nobody has
 ever complained about this being an issue, but it just seems a bit silly to
 pay for 6 T's and not get full use of them.
 
 I have never setup hsrp before and am reading about it right now.  But is
 hsrp all that I need to accomplish this task?
 
 each facillity has mulitple networks seperated by it's core layer3 switch,
 then the wan links are either 2600's or 3600's
 
 thanks!
 
 -Patrick
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Re: OT: Error on Cat6500..... [7:29411]

2001-12-17 Thread MADMAN

Funny you mention that.  I'm not seeing that particular problem but I
have a couple of customers who have seen some strange messages and I
cannot find any useful docs on %SYS-SP- or %OIR-SP-, the key here is ANY
error messages with -SP-.  Hate opening cases cause I can't find simple
info but...

  Dave

Michael Williams wrote:
 
 I had a Cat6500 setup in the basement and was using for testing on various
 things.  We moved it up into our Data Center.  I wiped NVRAM on both Sup
 engines (separately), and not it's booted up and running on the Sup in slot
 2 (with the Sup in slot 1 (supposedly) in standby mode).
 
 From the console, I get this repeating error message:
 
 %C6KPWR-SP-4-DISABLED:  power to module in slot 1 is set off (admin reque)
 
 I never received this message the entire time I was using in the basement.
 I'm going to go and shut it down, yank the two Sups and reseat them just to
 make sure they're okay Just curious to see if there was any specific
 cause for this message.  I searched Cisco's site to no avail.
 
 Thanks!
 Mike W.
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Re: hsrp/ospf/eigrp for redundant internet [7:29417]

2001-12-17 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

This isn't a job for HSRP. HSRP provides redundancy from end-station 
clients to their default gateway. The clients' default gateway(s) must be 
in the same subnet as the clients. It doesn't sound like that would be the 
case for any of the non-local routers.

It sounds like a job for a routing protocol. IGRP claims to figure out a 
candidate default route. Would it dynamically select a new route when the 
Internet interface went down? Or how about using OSPF and its ability to 
interject Type 4 routes to Autonomous System Boundary Routers?

You could probably do this without a routing protocol too with a backup 
command of some sort of a floating static (default) route. OK, so I'm 
waving my hands here. ;-) But I can say for sure that you're barking up the 
wrong tree with HSRP.

Priscilla

At 05:51 PM 12/17/01, Patrick Ramsey wrote:
Ok guys/gals,

I have a scenario here that I am trying to implement and before I start
working on it, I would like some personal opinions/expereinces from anyone
that cares to respond.

we have 6 major facilities all connected via various speed wan links.  Each
facillity has it's own connection to the internet with default routes set
accordingly.  Each facillity then has statics back to each of the other
facillites.

Currently their is no redundancy in the internet connectivity.  If one site
loses it's internet T, then it's down until that T comes back.  Nobody has
ever complained about this being an issue, but it just seems a bit silly to
pay for 6 T's and not get full use of them.

I have never setup hsrp before and am reading about it right now.  But is
hsrp all that I need to accomplish this task?

each facillity has mulitple networks seperated by it's core layer3 switch,
then the wan links are either 2600's or 3600's

thanks!

-Patrick


Priscilla Oppenheimer
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Frame relay switching question [7:29435]

2001-12-17 Thread Chris Theiss

I have a little lab set up to play around with frame-relay traffic
shaping.  I have 3 2501's linked up, with the one in the middle
configured as a frame relay switch.

Is there a way to configure the middle router to insert fecns and becns
as it switches the traffic?




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RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread Dennis Laganiere

Here's what I found so far, if anybody wants to fill in a few blanks...

Cat 4000/5000/6000
Aquired with Crescendo
uses XDI/CatOS

Cat 3000
Aquired with Kalpana
menu (although I don't know if you can bypass the menu to enter commands)

Cat 1900/2800
Aquired with Grand Junction
Menu (although I THINK you can bypass the menu to enter commands)

Cat 2900XL
Cisco Internal development
IOS-like

Cat 8500
Cisco Internal development
No idea what the CLI looks like, but Clark's book seems in indicate that it
was developed with the CatOS in mind...

--- Dennis


-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12/17/2001 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

By the way Dennis - if you truly want to find the demarcation point,
search
all of Cisco's old press releases.  You'll find the origins of each
switch
and understand the different OS supported by each.  I found it
fascinating
research when I did it...


  -- Leigh Anne

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Dennis Laganiere
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]


I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is
between families of switches.  Here's what I've got so far:

IOS-Based
Cat 1900 series
Cat 2820 series
Cat 2900XL series

Set-based
Cat5000 series
Cat 6000 series
Cat 6500 series
Cat 2900

However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and
uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches.

Does that sound right?

--- Dennis




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Re: hsrp/ospf/eigrp for redundant internet [7:29417]

2001-12-17 Thread Patrick Ramsey

yeah I think that was the consensous. : )  I'm going to do some more reading
and research this a bit more.  From what I can tell I think the simplest
will be the floating static default route.

thanks! (and to everyone else!)

-Patrick

 Priscilla Oppenheimer  12/17/01 07:11PM 
This isn't a job for HSRP. HSRP provides redundancy from end-station 
clients to their default gateway. The clients' default gateway(s) must be 
in the same subnet as the clients. It doesn't sound like that would be the 
case for any of the non-local routers.

It sounds like a job for a routing protocol. IGRP claims to figure out a 
candidate default route. Would it dynamically select a new route when the 
Internet interface went down? Or how about using OSPF and its ability to 
interject Type 4 routes to Autonomous System Boundary Routers?

You could probably do this without a routing protocol too with a backup 
command of some sort of a floating static (default) route. OK, so I'm 
waving my hands here. ;-) But I can say for sure that you're barking up the 
wrong tree with HSRP.

Priscilla

At 05:51 PM 12/17/01, Patrick Ramsey wrote:
Ok guys/gals,

I have a scenario here that I am trying to implement and before I start
working on it, I would like some personal opinions/expereinces from anyone
that cares to respond.

we have 6 major facilities all connected via various speed wan links.  Each
facillity has it's own connection to the internet with default routes set
accordingly.  Each facillity then has statics back to each of the other
facillites.

Currently their is no redundancy in the internet connectivity.  If one site
loses it's internet T, then it's down until that T comes back.  Nobody has
ever complained about this being an issue, but it just seems a bit silly to
pay for 6 T's and not get full use of them.

I have never setup hsrp before and am reading about it right now.  But is
hsrp all that I need to accomplish this task?

each facillity has mulitple networks seperated by it's core layer3 switch,
then the wan links are either 2600's or 3600's

thanks!

-Patrick


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: OT: Error on Cat6500..... [7:29411]

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Williams

Here's what happened.

As I mentioned before, I cleared the NVRAM on both Sups separately.  But,
when I issued a 'reload' on Sup#1 after clearing, it failed over to Sup#2,
and that's when I started getting this error.

So, I powered it down, pulled and reseated both Sups, and turned it back
on.  Now the Power light on BOTH sups was red, and lo and behold, when I
cleared NVRAM, I forgot to give it a boot system sup-bootflash:blahblah,
so it booted the Sup to rommon.

SO, the moral of the story is, if you get the above error, it's because the
standy Sup has booted into rommon.

=)

Once I realized that, I consoled into Sup1, gave the boot command, let it
boot, and changed the bootvar to have it boot from the IOS image in
Sup-bootflash.  Then I did the same on Sup#2.  Problem solved =)

Mike W.


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RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Williams

First off, let me say Shame on me for not being clear enough.  There were
indeed other 2900 models that were set based, like a 2-slot Cat5000 but you
couldn't change the hardware.  I have one of those, it's a Catalyst 2901. 
But these were before the XL series.  As fas as my comment about the newer
switches being deeper and using a DB9 console port, I may be confusing those
with older 1900s instead of 2900s.

Just let me know if I can spread anymore misinformation =)

Mike W.


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Re: CCIE SECURITY WORK BOOK [7:29429]

2001-12-17 Thread Brian Whalen

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Re: hsrp/ospf/eigrp for redundant internet [7:29417]

2001-12-17 Thread Brian Whalen

in its most simple form, without a routing protocol, you could at each
site go;

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 internet connected interface
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 enterprise connected interface 200

Then of course with internet traffic cruising your normally private
network, some security auditing may be in order, depending on your setup.

Brian Sonic Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Patrick Ramsey wrote:

 yeah I think that was the consensous. : )  I'm going to do some more
reading
 and research this a bit more.  From what I can tell I think the simplest
 will be the floating static default route.

 thanks! (and to everyone else!)

 -Patrick

  Priscilla Oppenheimer  12/17/01 07:11PM 
 This isn't a job for HSRP. HSRP provides redundancy from end-station
 clients to their default gateway. The clients' default gateway(s) must be
 in the same subnet as the clients. It doesn't sound like that would be the
 case for any of the non-local routers.

 It sounds like a job for a routing protocol. IGRP claims to figure out a
 candidate default route. Would it dynamically select a new route when the
 Internet interface went down? Or how about using OSPF and its ability to
 interject Type 4 routes to Autonomous System Boundary Routers?

 You could probably do this without a routing protocol too with a backup
 command of some sort of a floating static (default) route. OK, so I'm
 waving my hands here. ;-) But I can say for sure that you're barking up the
 wrong tree with HSRP.

 Priscilla

 At 05:51 PM 12/17/01, Patrick Ramsey wrote:
 Ok guys/gals,
 
 I have a scenario here that I am trying to implement and before I start
 working on it, I would like some personal opinions/expereinces from anyone
 that cares to respond.
 
 we have 6 major facilities all connected via various speed wan links. 
Each
 facillity has it's own connection to the internet with default routes set
 accordingly.  Each facillity then has statics back to each of the other
 facillites.
 
 Currently their is no redundancy in the internet connectivity.  If one
site
 loses it's internet T, then it's down until that T comes back.  Nobody has
 ever complained about this being an issue, but it just seems a bit silly
to
 pay for 6 T's and not get full use of them.
 
 I have never setup hsrp before and am reading about it right now.  But is
 hsrp all that I need to accomplish this task?
 
 each facillity has mulitple networks seperated by it's core layer3 switch,
 then the wan links are either 2600's or 3600's
 
 thanks!
 
 -Patrick
 

 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com




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RE: Frame relay switching question [7:29435]

2001-12-17 Thread Nick S.

afaik, NO.

However you can set up DE (discard eligibility) limit and when that
threshold is reached, you can see it on debugs as well as on sh frame PVC
(total in DE's  out DE's)

Nick


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RE: Is there a time limited for taking all the CCNP ex [7:29375]

2001-12-17 Thread Nick S.

Well, the 2 yr. limit exists because the certification itself expires in 2
yrs.

So if u begin ur ccnp today by going for 1 of the tests, the new version of
that test usually comes out in 2 yrs time, by which if u have or have not
finished ur ccnp, ur certification has retired.

Nick 


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RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread Dennis Laganiere

How does this look?  Any corrections would be appreciated...

Set-based Switches
7   Catalyst 1200 Series
7   Catalyst 2901 
7   Catalyst 2902 
7   Catalyst 2926T/F 
7   Catalyst 2926GS/L 
7   Catalyst 2948G 
7   Catalyst 2980G 
7   Catalyst 4000 Series
7   Catalyst 5000 Series
7   Catalyst 5500 Series
7   Catalyst 6000 Series
7   Catalyst 6500 Series 
7   Catalyst 8500 Series

IOS-like Switches
7   Catalyst 2912XL
7   Catalyst 2924XL
7   Catalyst 3550 Series
7   Catalyst 3500XL Series
7   Catalyst 2950 Series

Menu Setup
7   Catalyst 1700 Series
7   Catalyst 1900 Series
7   Catalyst 2100 Series
7   Catalyst 2800 Series
7   Catalyst 2820 Series
7   Catalyst 3000
7   Catalyst 3100
7   Catalyst 3200 

Switch Routers 
7   Catalyst 2948G-L3
7   Catalyst 4840G
7   Catalyst 4908G-L3 

Token Ring Switch
7   Catalyst 3900
7   Catalyst 2600

Other 
7   Catalyst 6000 Series Switches Running Native IOS

Let me know ...

-=- Dennis

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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]


First off, let me say Shame on me for not being clear enough.  There were
indeed other 2900 models that were set based, like a 2-slot Cat5000 but you
couldn't change the hardware.  I have one of those, it's a Catalyst 2901. 
But these were before the XL series.  As fas as my comment about the newer
switches being deeper and using a DB9 console port, I may be confusing those
with older 1900s instead of 2900s.

Just let me know if I can spread anymore misinformation =)

Mike W.




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I mean the etherchannel of ranging of the multi-device ! [7:29445]

2001-12-17 Thread cage

3500-3500-3500-3500(3500 stacks)
  ||||
3500-3500-3500-3500(3500 stacks)
The 4 links between the two stacks are etherchannels, is it available?




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Re: I mean the etherchannel of ranging of the multi-device ! [7:29446]

2001-12-17 Thread Steven A. Ridder

it would have to be limited to a switch by switch basis.  FYI, you are maxed
out on STP hops.



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Re: cisco academy's routing skills final ,tough!!! [7:29212]

2001-12-17 Thread brian hall

looks like my message is moving further into the archives. But a hot subject
nontheless. I wanted it to be more of a heads up to all who are about to
take on sem5 . Don't think of advance routing as a course to run through
just to reach a designation of ccnp and hopefully ccie. It cant work for you
that way. I bit off more than I can chew by spreading myself too thin . That
will be remedied.
They are good skills to master and will benefit for the obvious reasons. 
Sounds like Prof. lisa knows what up and will but quality as well quantity
of students out in the field.

Thanks!for everyones input!!
Brian,



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Re: cisco academy's routing skills final ,tough!!! [7:29212]

2001-12-17 Thread brian hall

looks like my message is moving further into the archives. But a hot subject
nontheless. I wanted it to be more of a heads up to all who are about to
take on sem5 . Don't think of advance routing as a course to run through
just to reach a designation of ccnp and hopefully ccie. It cant work for you
that way. I bit off more than I can chew by spreading myself too thin . That
will be remedied.
They are good skills to master and will benefit for the obvious reasons. 
Sounds like Prof. lisa knows what up and will but quality as well quantity
of students out in the field.

Thanks!for everyones input!!
Brian,



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RE: Is there a time limited for taking all the CCNP ex [7:29449]

2001-12-17 Thread Patrick Zhou

Thanks for your reply!

You meant, CCNA had 3 years to expire, but CCNP had only 2 years, right?

Oh! I never knows that, I had thought that expiration of CCNP was also 3
years!!

But how comes, if I start my ccnp exam in 2002, while the exams will be
upgraded in 2003? Would I have only 1 year time to finished all my ccnp
exams? Even I pass, will my certifications be retired after 2003's ccnp
exam upgrade?

It's quite a confused question... thanks again for your kindness reply!

Regards,

Patrick
MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Nick S.
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Is there a time limited for taking all the CCNP ex
[7:29375]

Well, the 2 yr. limit exists because the certification itself expires in
2
yrs.

So if u begin ur ccnp today by going for 1 of the tests, the new version
of
that test usually comes out in 2 yrs time, by which if u have or have
not
finished ur ccnp, ur certification has retired.

Nick




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RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread Daniel Cotts

Cat 3000 Menu only. Also sold as the CiscoPro EtherSwitch CPW1601. 

Cat5K Acquired with Crescendo. Cat 4000 and 6000 series developed after it
became Cisco.

Looking at a 1996 Cisco Catalog I also find: 
Cat 2600 Token Ring switch.
Cat 1900
Cat 1800 Token Ring switch.
Cat 1600 Token Ring switch.
Cat 1200 Eight Ethernet ports. RJ-45 or fiber connectors. FDDI uplink
modules.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
 
 
 Here's what I found so far, if anybody wants to fill in a few 
 blanks...
 
 Cat 4000/5000/6000
 Aquired with Crescendo
 uses XDI/CatOS
 
 Cat 3000
 Aquired with Kalpana
 menu (although I don't know if you can bypass the menu to 
 enter commands)
 
 Cat 1900/2800
 Aquired with Grand Junction
 Menu (although I THINK you can bypass the menu to enter commands)
 
 Cat 2900XL
 Cisco Internal development
 IOS-like
 
 Cat 8500
 Cisco Internal development
 No idea what the CLI looks like, but Clark's book seems in 
 indicate that it
 was developed with the CatOS in mind...
 
 --- Dennis
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Leigh Anne Chisholm
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 12/17/2001 3:37 PM
 Subject: RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
 
 By the way Dennis - if you truly want to find the demarcation point,
 search
 all of Cisco's old press releases.  You'll find the origins of each
 switch
 and understand the different OS supported by each.  I found it
 fascinating
 research when I did it...
 
 
   -- Leigh Anne
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Dennis Laganiere
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:46 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]
 
 
 I'm trying to sort out once-and-for-all where the demarcation line is
 between families of switches.  Here's what I've got so far:
 
 IOS-Based
 Cat 1900 series
 Cat 2820 series
 Cat 2900XL series
 
 Set-based
 Cat5000 series
 Cat 6000 series
 Cat 6500 series
 Cat 2900
 
 However, the 2900XL uses different commands for trunking, portfast and
 uplinkfast then the other IOS based switches.
 
 Does that sound right?
 
 --- Dennis




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Re: Is there a time limited for taking all the CCNP ex [7:29451]

2001-12-17 Thread Godswill HO

Hi Patrick,

In respective of the date you started any of your CCNP or CCDP track, you
are certified on the very date you wrote the last exam in each of the
serials. eg If I write Routing 2.0 on 1/1/2001 and wrote the other two any
date in between, but for one reason or the other I now write the last exam
say CIT 3.0 on 1/1/2003. You will become CCNP on 1/1/2003 ie if you passed
CIT 3.0 and the two years expiration of your certicate start counting from
1/1/2003 not 1/1/2001 when you first wrote the exam.

However, you might be having a problem if the course you are yet to write
get upgraded, it means, you probably are going to buy new books, look for
new exam scenerios, would not have a familar exam format and all that. Apart
from that, you will still be on course. If for example one of the exams you
have written got upgraded before you complete all four, you are not required
to go back and write that exam again, you have passed it already and it
still count towards your credit.

Another thing you also have to bear in mind is that, Cisco normally upgrade
the whole certificate at interval of times, eg the current CCNA v2 was
upgraded June 2000 from v1. I donot know the current version of CCNP we have
now, assuming it is version 2, and you were not able to upgrade before say
version 3 came up, You will still have the version 2 exams available for you
to write at the end of the day, you will have CCNP v2 for you to get CCNP
v3, you have to write just one upgrade exam and that is all., so your CCNP
v2 by that exam would be upgraded to CCNP v3.

Good luck

Regards.
Oletu
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Zhou 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: Is there a time limited for taking all the CCNP ex [7:29449]


 Thanks for your reply!

 You meant, CCNA had 3 years to expire, but CCNP had only 2 years, right?

 Oh! I never knows that, I had thought that expiration of CCNP was also 3
 years!!

 But how comes, if I start my ccnp exam in 2002, while the exams will be
 upgraded in 2003? Would I have only 1 year time to finished all my ccnp
 exams? Even I pass, will my certifications be retired after 2003's ccnp
 exam upgrade?

 It's quite a confused question... thanks again for your kindness reply!

 Regards,

 Patrick
 MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Nick S.
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:21 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Is there a time limited for taking all the CCNP ex
 [7:29375]

 Well, the 2 yr. limit exists because the certification itself expires in
 2
 yrs.

 So if u begin ur ccnp today by going for 1 of the tests, the new version
 of
 that test usually comes out in 2 yrs time, by which if u have or have
 not
 finished ur ccnp, ur certification has retired.

 Nick
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RE: Is there a time limited for taking all the CCNP ex [7:29452]

2001-12-17 Thread Patrick Zhou

Hi Godswill,

Thank you very much! Your answer is very clear!

From your mail, I learned:
1. The CCNP's expiration is two years.
2. We can write CCNP V2 exams and CCNP v3 exams mixed, but we can only
get the CCNP V2 certification.
3. After we get CCNP V2 certification, we can upgrade to V3 with an
upgrade exam.
Is it all I should know? 

Thanks again for your kindness!!

Regards,
Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Godswill HO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:02 PM
To: Patrick Zhou; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is there a time limited for taking all the CCNP ex
[7:29449]

Hi Patrick,

In respective of the date you started any of your CCNP or CCDP track,
you
are certified on the very date you wrote the last exam in each of the
serials. eg If I write Routing 2.0 on 1/1/2001 and wrote the other two
any
date in between, but for one reason or the other I now write the last
exam
say CIT 3.0 on 1/1/2003. You will become CCNP on 1/1/2003 ie if you
passed
CIT 3.0 and the two years expiration of your certicate start counting
from
1/1/2003 not 1/1/2001 when you first wrote the exam.

However, you might be having a problem if the course you are yet to
write
get upgraded, it means, you probably are going to buy new books, look
for
new exam scenerios, would not have a familar exam format and all that.
Apart
from that, you will still be on course. If for example one of the exams
you
have written got upgraded before you complete all four, you are not
required
to go back and write that exam again, you have passed it already and it
still count towards your credit.

Another thing you also have to bear in mind is that, Cisco normally
upgrade
the whole certificate at interval of times, eg the current CCNA v2 was
upgraded June 2000 from v1. I donot know the current version of CCNP we
have
now, assuming it is version 2, and you were not able to upgrade before
say
version 3 came up, You will still have the version 2 exams available for
you
to write at the end of the day, you will have CCNP v2 for you to get
CCNP
v3, you have to write just one upgrade exam and that is all., so your
CCNP
v2 by that exam would be upgraded to CCNP v3.

Good luck

Regards.
Oletu
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Zhou 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: Is there a time limited for taking all the CCNP ex
[7:29449]


 Thanks for your reply!

 You meant, CCNA had 3 years to expire, but CCNP had only 2 years,
right?

 Oh! I never knows that, I had thought that expiration of CCNP was also
3
 years!!

 But how comes, if I start my ccnp exam in 2002, while the exams will
be
 upgraded in 2003? Would I have only 1 year time to finished all my
ccnp
 exams? Even I pass, will my certifications be retired after 2003's
ccnp
 exam upgrade?

 It's quite a confused question... thanks again for your kindness
reply!

 Regards,

 Patrick
 MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
 Nick S.
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:21 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Is there a time limited for taking all the CCNP ex
 [7:29375]

 Well, the 2 yr. limit exists because the certification itself expires
in
 2
 yrs.

 So if u begin ur ccnp today by going for 1 of the tests, the new
version
 of
 that test usually comes out in 2 yrs time, by which if u have or have
 not
 finished ur ccnp, ur certification has retired.

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RE: OT: Error on Cat6500..... [7:29411]

2001-12-17 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

across a nifty tool I never knew existed.  Cisco has an Error Message
Decoder utility on their site that can be accessed by clicking on the
following link:

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/Errordecoder/home.pl

(You need to log into Cisco's site in order to use this tool).

This, and many other handy utilities and tools can be found in the Technical
Assistance Center section of Cisco's website under the Tool Index that can
be found at this handy link:

http://www.cisco.com/kobayashi/support/tac/t_index.shtml


This index of available tools is something also that I didn't know existed.
Note that the tools available will differ depending on what account type (if
any) you are logged in with...


  -- Leigh Anne


PS.  Not surprisingly since you couldn't find anything on Michael's problem
on
Cisco's site, the Error Message Decoder didn't have anything on this message
in its database...


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Michael Williams
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:00 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: Error on Cat6500. [7:29411]


Here's what happened.

As I mentioned before, I cleared the NVRAM on both Sups separately.  But,
when I issued a 'reload' on Sup#1 after clearing, it failed over to Sup#2,
and that's when I started getting this error.

So, I powered it down, pulled and reseated both Sups, and turned it back
on.  Now the Power light on BOTH sups was red, and lo and behold, when I
cleared NVRAM, I forgot to give it a boot system sup-bootflash:blahblah,
so it booted the Sup to rommon.

SO, the moral of the story is, if you get the above error, it's because the
standy Sup has booted into rommon.

=)

Once I realized that, I consoled into Sup1, gave the boot command, let it
boot, and changed the bootvar to have it boot from the IOS image in
Sup-bootflash.  Then I did the same on Sup#2.  Problem solved =)

Mike W.

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MADMAN
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:47 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: Error on Cat6500. [7:29411]


Funny you mention that.  I'm not seeing that particular problem but I
have a couple of customers who have seen some strange messages and I
cannot find any useful docs on %SYS-SP- or %OIR-SP-, the key here is ANY
error messages with -SP-.  Hate opening cases cause I can't find simple
info but...

  Dave

Michael Williams wrote:

 I had a Cat6500 setup in the basement and was using for testing on various
 things.  We moved it up into our Data Center.  I wiped NVRAM on both Sup
 engines (separately), and not it's booted up and running on the Sup in slot
 2 (with the Sup in slot 1 (supposedly) in standby mode).

 From the console, I get this repeating error message:

 %C6KPWR-SP-4-DISABLED:  power to module in slot 1 is set off (admin reque)

 I never received this message the entire time I was using in the basement.
 I'm going to go and shut it down, yank the two Sups and reseat them just to
 make sure they're okay Just curious to see if there was any specific
 cause for this message.  I searched Cisco's site to no avail.

 Thanks!
 Mike W.
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Re: CCIE SECURITY WORK BOOK [7:29429]

2001-12-17 Thread Patrick Bass

I purchased this book while it was yet a beta release.  It has been very
useful for me.

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RE: Switch types for BCMSN [7:29391]

2001-12-17 Thread Lee James

Just a quick note on the 1900s. The old 1900c switches, (size of a pizza
box) and db-9 console port were menu driven. the 1924-A standard edition
(software upgradeable to Enterprise edition) and enterprise catalyst
switches (1924-EN), you can choose IOS from the menu and is just like a
2924xl.  They are half the size of the older models, and they have an rj45
console port. (9.00.004) is the latest revision


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X.28 to ip conversion [7:29456]

2001-12-17 Thread amarjeet singh

Dear Group,
   I have a requirement which is mentioned below:-

The link is like this.. .. Kiosk --R1---Modem  IP cloud.---IP
host

The kiosk has got a RS232 port which is connected to my router (R1) Ethernet
port (via RS232 to RJ45 cable). On the serial interface of router modem is
connected  it is dialing to an IP network  reaching to a host which runs
on IP. The kiosk is sending me X.28 packets from its RS232 port to my
Ethernet port of R1.

My question is how do I make conversion from X.28 to IP so that my Ethernet
port will understand. Finally these packets will be sent to the IP host in
IP format only. Or what solution do I implement for the same.
Earlier I tried with serial to IP converter hardware device (between kiosk 
R1) Now I want to do it without this hardware. Any suggestions...

Thanx in Advance..


Sonu




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Metro Ethernet [7:29457]

2001-12-17 Thread Jim Bond

Hello,

Anyone has experience with Metro Ethernet? Is it good?
(on pricing, availability, QOS etc.)?

Thanks in advance.

Jim

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