Re: traffic analyzer [7:41267]

2002-04-11 Thread Patrick Ramsey

send a linux box configured with X/ethereal and vnc out there and remote
control it from your end!

-Patrick

>>> supernet  04/12/02 12:42AM >>>
Hi Dear Friends,
 
I have 1 branch office connected to main office by frame relay. I
noticed a lot of traffic across this link and would like to find out
what they are. The problem is I don't have access to the branch office,
therefore, everything has to be done in main office. I tried sniffer
pro, etherpeek and anasil but they only allow me to specify a particular
source IP, not the whole branch office subnet. Is there any other
software I can use?
 
Thanks.
Yoshi
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Re: What is the best HyperTerminal program for Linux? [7:41228]

2002-04-11 Thread Patrick Ramsey

do you mean configure?  or compile it on a machine?

minicom was created to mimic the old telix software from back in the day! 
:)  configuing is easyjust run minicom and hit alt-z for the help menu...

you'll need to select 'o' for configurationremember to take out the init
strings and hangup strings...you don't want garbage being sent to your
routers at inopportune times!  Other than that, 96-8-n-1

-Patrick

>>> "Jeffrey W. Hall"  04/11/02 10:06PM >>>
Does anyone know of a good step by step tutorial for setting up minicom 
for use to terminal into routers and switches?  Pardon my ignorance, 
I've done a good amount of work with linux, but I've never used any 
terminal program besides HyperTerminal (don't laugh) on anything but 
windows.  I've been studying over the man pages, but they're about as 
confusing as I've found.

TIA,

Jeff

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>minicom or, the x version, xminicom.  It should be included in most linux
>distros.
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>
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RE: What is the best HyperTerminal program for Linux? [7:41228]

2002-04-11 Thread Patrick Ramsey

of course getting secure crt to run under wine would probably be a bit of a
chore!  :)

try minicom...

kermit works too!

>>> "Larry Letterman"  04/11/02 04:54PM >>>
the best one is not to use HT at all...
Get a term application that works...

tera term, reflections, secure crt, etc..


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I'm looking for a good hyperterminal program for linux, if anyone has any
recommendations.

Thanks,

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Dialer profile vs. rotary group? [7:41271]

2002-04-11 Thread Sean Knox

Hey all,

I am confused by the difference(s) between dialer profiles and rotary
groups. All the text I've read seems rather convoluted - physical interfaces
can only be in one rotary group but can exist in many different dialer pools
(if using dialer profiles)? Is that the main difference? Rotary groups seem
to be an outdated configuration solution. Someone please point me in the
right direction...

Sean




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BGP Aggregate Routes [7:41269]

2002-04-11 Thread Hunt Lee

Hi all,

I have a question about BGP Aggregate Routes, it would be great if someone
can shed some light on this:

I understand that in "3840 703 2764 4648, (aggregated by 4648
202.37.247.45)", 4648 is where the AS Number that originates this aggregate
route (219.88.0.0), while 202.37.247.45 is the Router_ID who creates this
aggregate.

But what does the front bit say - 3840 703 2764 4648???


br1.bne#sh ip bgp 219.88.0.0
BGP routing table entry for 219.88.0.0/16, version 376147
Paths: (4 available, best #1)
  Not advertised to any peer
  3840 703 2764 4648, (aggregated by 4648 202.37.247.45)
203.147.255.131 (metric 3) from 203.147.255.131 (203.147.255.131)
  Origin IGP, metric 5, localpref 100, valid, internal,
atomic-aggregate, best
  Community: 703:1020
  1221 2764 4648, (aggregated by 4648 202.37.247.45)
203.147.255.130 (metric 3) from 203.147.255.130 (203.147.255.130)
  Origin IGP, localpref 80, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
  1221 2764 4648, (aggregated by 4648 202.37.247.45)
139.130.64.85 from 139.130.64.85 (203.14.8.12)
  Origin IGP, localpref 80, valid, external, atomic-aggregate
  1221 2764 4648, (aggregated by 4648 202.37.247.45), (received-only)
139.130.64.85 from 139.130.64.85 (203.14.8.12)
  Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, atomic-aggregate


Please help...

Best Regards,
Hunt Lee




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RE: CCIE Lab Purchase - Pots simulator - Need opin [7:41128]

2002-04-11 Thread Ouellette, Tim

I bought my teltone tls-4 from ebay for $100. If you keep your eyes peeled,
you can get one at a good price.  It works very well. I like the fact I can
have 3 spokes connected to the hub and do DDR from multiple sites (obviously
only 1 at a time).

Good luck.

Tim

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Hello all - Unfortunately, I do not have funds to go out and buy an ISDN 
simulator.  I have been looking at POTs simulators as a very cheap
alternative.  I will still be able to do DDR, PPP, etc.

Has anyone had any experience with a Viking DLE-200.  It goes for
around $135.00.

Check out this url - watch the word wrap...
http://www.TWAcomm.com/Catalog/Dept_ID_108.htm?SID=30TSQJUWWJD58NH8URLJMR7T7
BD4DH75

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you.

Scott Chapin, CCNP




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Cisco vs. Juniper of LSP setup [7:41268]

2002-04-11 Thread LU

I just noticed that in cisco you can not establish LSP without enabling OSPF
opaque LSA, this is quite different from Juniper. JUNOS allows you to set up
LSP just based on normal IGP information. Am I missing some commands in IOS?
Does IOS have a way to enable MPLS-TE without having OSPF opaque LSA?

Thanks
LU




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traffic analyzer [7:41267]

2002-04-11 Thread supernet

Hi Dear Friends,
 
I have 1 branch office connected to main office by frame relay. I
noticed a lot of traffic across this link and would like to find out
what they are. The problem is I don't have access to the branch office,
therefore, everything has to be done in main office. I tried sniffer
pro, etherpeek and anasil but they only allow me to specify a particular
source IP, not the whole branch office subnet. Is there any other
software I can use?
 
Thanks.
Yoshi




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Cisco Memory [7:41266]

2002-04-11 Thread The Edward Groove

Has anyone done any research on cheaper, yet compatible memory for the
2500 series routers?  I'm looking for some cheap flash and DRAM for this
line.  Does anyone have any specs--or even better--manufacturer model
names that you've tested that works?

Thanks, in advance...

Eddie



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Re: Now What???????? [7:40988]

2002-04-11 Thread nrf

Careful now.   I have been on the other side of the hiring process, and I
know quite a few hiring directors who will instantly throw away any resume
that says anything like "CCIE-written".  The rationale is that they are
trying to claim a cert that doesn't exist, and so if they're willing to push
the envelope on that, then most likely everything else on their resume is
greatly exaggerated, if not an out-and-out fabrication.  From what I see,
you lose more than you gain by listing such a cert.



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> Send me your resume and I will help you with it.  A
> resume is a way of giving a hiring manager a 30 second
> snapshot of your career.
>
> 1.) I passed the CCIE written and I consider it a big
> accomplishment, so I have it on my resume.
>
> 2.) I have heard the All in one study guide is a good
> starting point, but I haven't gotten into it yet.
>
> 3.) no idea
>
>
>
>
> --- Juan Blanco  wrote:
> > Team,
> > After your pass the written what do you do in
> > reference to the following:
> >
> > 1) Do you mention it in your resume and if you do
> > any suggestions (I know it
> > is not a certification).
> > CCIE Lab(schedule for xx-xx-xx)
> > Passed CCIE Written, Lab(schedule for xx-xx-xx)
> > Working on the CCIE Lab
> > Put nothing because the written is not a
> > certification..
> >
> > 2) Any book which will help you to put together a
> > very organize and
> > structure plan of studding for the lab(very similar
> > to Caslow's book)
> > I already have the following books:
> > CASLOW, HUTNIX, DOYLE
> > 3) How similar are the labs and hardware layout from
> > the FATKID to the real
> > thing.I planning to use the same format (what is
> > your recommendation)
> >
> > Wow, the more we think we know the less we
> > know...I feel very
> > goodsome people are saying that I don't have a
> > life because all I talk
> > about is
> > Cisco...Cisco...routersswitchesbridges
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > JB
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RE: Frame-Relay Problem [7:41250]

2002-04-11 Thread Sean Knox

Check the clock rate and cabling on both ends. If the clock rate specified
is different than what the module supports, then I believe the line will
come up and go back down. (For example, the WIC-2A/S cards only support a
maximum clock rate of 128K).

* Check cabling (are the DCE and DTE ends correct?)
* Make sure frame-relay intf-type is set correctly on both ends (and cabling
is OK)
* Check clock rate (set on the interface)
* Issue a "no shut" on all frame-relay interfaces on both ends of the PVC.

hth,
Sean

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The question is that Caslow says on page-110 that if FR switching is
on, just enabling the encapsulation will bring up the PVC by using
inverse arp. I don't see that happening.

/N

"Engelhard M. Labiro" wrote:

> Ping,
>
> Have you configure the following comands on FR switch ?
> 1. Global config mode : "frame-relay switching"
> 2. Interface config mode: "frame-relay intf-type dce"
>
> - Original Message -
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> To:
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:49 AM
> Subject: Frame-Relay Problem [7:41250]
>
> > If I have this simple net:
> >
> > 3660(FR Switch)---3640
> >
> > I am using NM-4T on both routers.
> > Default (HDLC) encapsulation causes both router serial interfaces to
> > come up. I am trying inverse ARP from Caslow book but as
> > soon as I enable FR (or even PPP) encap, line goes down. 3660 is the DCE
> >
> > and supplying clock.
> > I am not sure if someone has tried NM-4T with FR?
> >
> > /N




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CCDA exam updated- who knew [7:41263]

2002-04-11 Thread Andy Barkl

Guess what?

The DCN (CCDA) exam was updated today with new objectives without prior
announcement or notification. 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_
exams/640-441.html




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Re: How to keep BGP's session open indefinitly with no [7:41262]

2002-04-11 Thread Chris Camplejohn

Worked this way for me:

router bgp 1
 bgp log-neighbor-changes
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 2
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 timers 0 0


R5(config-router)#neighbor 1.1.1.1 timers 0 ?
Holdtime



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options
> for holdtime)
>
> I tried
>
> ROUTER BGP 100
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 timers 0 ?
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> > not
> > > exchange keepalives, but on the command line "timers" does not permit
0
> > for
> > > the hello or hlodrime interval.




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Re: Clear counters on NM-1A-T3 card? [7:41244]

2002-04-11 Thread Craig Columbus

Yeah...I can't reload though; the router and the interface need to stay 
up.  I wish there were a clear controllers command for this card.  :-(

Craig

At 10:29 PM 4/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>probably only through a reload...
>
>""Craig Columbus""  wrote in message
>news:...
> > Anyone know how to clear the statistics that show up in the output of a
>"sh
> > controllers atm1/0" command?  Clear counters has no effect, clear atm
stat
> > has no effect.
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Craig




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RE: Uptime MIB [7:41046]

2002-04-11 Thread Joseph Brunner

system.sysUpTime.0

1.3.6.1.2.1.1.3.0

works all cisco stuff

Joseph Brunner
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We have 40 or so 75xx routers and we are looking for a SNMP MIB that we
could uses to check the uptime on them.  Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

John




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Re: OSPF problem [7:41195]

2002-04-11 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Could one be ospf v. 1?

Or could one be doing PT auth and the other MD5?

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> OSPF-4_ERRRCV Received invalid packet: BAD Version
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>
> My question is what is meant by "Bad Version". Anyone seen this.
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RE: ac-path access list [7:40983]

2002-04-11 Thread Joseph Brunner

from my experience using such an as-path regex, ^10$ would be ONLY 10
and _10_ would be "containing 10 in the path" there for denying 4513 10 as
well

Joseph Brunner
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Is there any difference in these two commands?

A.  ip as-path access-list deny _10_

B.  ip as-path access-list deny ^10$

If I understand corerctly, they both deny AS 10, and only 10.

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RE: CCIE Written Reading.. [7:41017]

2002-04-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Larry, 

Well, it did work for me and as you see I am going for the lab now. 
Of course, ccbootcamp, Boson, cerificationzone these are all just tools. The 
actual result varies depending on the person's capacity. 

But, I am curious. Why do you want to become a CCIE? 

I want to become a CCIE with the hope and anticipation of a better job, a 
better income, and a better life. 
You already have a better life. Your signature says you work for Cisco, and
you
are constantly on this list. This means you are getting paid for surfing and 
chatting! This is an ultimate job. I love it. 

I don't believe any other employer would give you so much leway  even if you 
were holding a PhD in brainsurgery. Where I work, we are not allowd to surf
the
web and participate in newsgroups when we are on the clock :-( 

Forget CCIE and hold on to your good Cisco Systems employer, and shoot me an 
application form if they are hiring :-) 

Best wishes, 

A Strobel   (working on the lab exam) 



Quoting Larry Letterman :

> Bernard's test does not work well, I would advise
> using dennis L.'s boson # 3 test. Its a better test for
> written.
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> Kris,
> 
> I am sure you will find tons of info on this subject in archives.
> Strategies are different from person to person.
> I used the following to pass my written:
> 
> -Bruce Caslow's Book (1st or 2nd edition)
> -Boson #1 by Bernard
> -CCO
> 
> You can add www.certificationzone.com to your arsenal if you are an avid
> reader. They have excellent white papers.
> 
> During the period that you wait and practice for you lab, you can read:
> Halabi
> Jeff Doyle (1 &2)
> BGP-4 by parkhurst
> and many more.
> 
> Good luck,
> A Strobel ( working on the lab exam.)
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Kris Keen :
> 
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'll be preparing for the CCIE written exam very shortly, Im in the
> process
> > of building the tid bits for my lab and collecting the reading material..
> >
> > What books should I read at a min, and what would be even more
> advantgeous?
> >
> > I have all the CCNP books (Exam Cert Guides) and Doyles TCPIP Vol 1.
> >
> > Please help...
> >
> > Thanks!
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RE: Uptime MIB [7:41046]

2002-04-11 Thread Joseph Brunner

system.sysUpTime.0

1.3.6.1.2.1.1.3.0

works all cisco stuff

Joseph Brunner
ASN 21572
MortgageIT MITLending
New York, NY 10038
(212) 651 - 7695 Voice


-Original Message-
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Subject: Uptime MIB [7:41046]


We have 40 or so 75xx routers and we are looking for a SNMP MIB that we
could uses to check the uptime on them.  Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

John




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RE: ac-path access list [7:40983]

2002-04-11 Thread Joseph Brunner

from my experience using such an as-path regex, ^10$ would be ONLY 10
and _10_ would be "containing 10 in the path" there for denying 4513 10 as
well

Joseph Brunner
ASN 21572
MortgageIT MITLending
New York, NY 10038
(212) 651 - 7695 Voice


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Is there any difference in these two commands?

A.  ip as-path access-list deny _10_

B.  ip as-path access-list deny ^10$

If I understand corerctly, they both deny AS 10, and only 10.

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RE: How can you block spam email with NBAR? [7:41029]

2002-04-11 Thread Kent Hundley

AFAIK, you can only block HTTP content using NBAR, although Cisco is working
on adding additional protocols for classifying content.

You can use the IDS features in the IOS to catch some SPAM related mail,
such as the number of recipients in an email message.  Based on this you
could setup your mail gateway to reject mail from certain domains in the
future.  Your best bet is to install a real SMTP gateway filter that will
allow you to block SPAM and emails with certain attachments. (i.e. .exe,
.vbs, .bat, etc)

You can find some open source tools for these sorts of tasks here:

http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Administration/Anti-Spam.html

and here:

http://www.amavis.org/

HTH,
Kent

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Subject: How can you block spam email with NBAR? [7:41029]


Can spam be blocked with NBAR? Perhaps similar to how urls can be blocked
with
match protocol http url "iishack" ?
The match protocol option does not allow any granularity with the smtp
directive.
THanks!
b




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RE: CCIE Written Reading.. [7:41017]

2002-04-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bruce Caslow's book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0130903892/qid=1018481983/sr=1-
1/ref=sr_1_1/002-2255348-4805636

NLI:
http://www.ccbootcamp.com

HTH

A strobel



Quoting Sam Deckert :

> Bridges, Routers, and
> Switches for CCIE's by Andrew Bruce Caslow.
> 0130903892
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Sam.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kris Keen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2002 8:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCIE Written Reading.. [7:41017]
> 
> 
> Thankyou all! Anyone have the NLI Study guide ISBN and also the Caslow
> Bridges Routers and Switches ISBN?
> 
> Ill purchase the Boson 1,2,3 tomorrow
> 
> Thanks all :)
> Onto the written!
>

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RE: CCIE Written Reading.. [7:41017]

2002-04-11 Thread Larry Letterman

as far as Boson test go, use the one that works for you..
I used the one by Bernard and it didn't work for me, I used
the one by Dennis and I think it prepares one for the written
test a great deal better...everyone has thier own method of
studying and choosing tools

As far as implying that I spend my day posting to this board all day
and getting paid for it, that would be incorrect...But yes my company
does allow me to use the web and email to learn and converse with others
in my trade, which allows me to be a better, more knowledgeable network
person...and on occasion when I think I can help someone elseon here I
offer to give something back to the list since the list gives me a lot of
information that helped me thru the written as well as day to day
activity...

Lastly, I am not doing the CCIE for the money, I am doing it because I want
the cert and I will learn alot about the networking business by making
myself
do the labs and prove to myself that I can do it and that I know what I
think I know..


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Larry,

Well, it did work for me and as you see I am going for the lab now.
Of course, ccbootcamp, Boson, cerificationzone these are all just tools. The
actual result varies depending on the person's capacity.

But, I am curious. Why do you want to become a CCIE?

I want to become a CCIE with the hope and anticipation of a better job, a
better income, and a better life.
You already have a better life. Your signature says you work for Cisco, and
you
are constantly on this list. This means you are getting paid for surfing and
chatting! This is an ultimate job. I love it.

I don't believe any other employer would give you so much leway  even if you
were holding a PhD in brainsurgery. Where I work, we are not allowd to surf
the
web and participate in newsgroups when we are on the clock :-(

Forget CCIE and hold on to your good Cisco Systems employer, and shoot me an
application form if they are hiring :-)

Best wishes,

A Strobel   (working on the lab exam)



Quoting Larry Letterman :

> Bernard's test does not work well, I would advise
> using dennis L.'s boson # 3 test. Its a better test for
> written.
>
>
> Larry Letterman
> Cisco Systems
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE Written Reading.. [7:41017]
>
>
> Kris,
>
> I am sure you will find tons of info on this subject in archives.
> Strategies are different from person to person.
> I used the following to pass my written:
>
> -Bruce Caslow's Book (1st or 2nd edition)
> -Boson #1 by Bernard
> -CCO
>
> You can add www.certificationzone.com to your arsenal if you are an avid
> reader. They have excellent white papers.
>
> During the period that you wait and practice for you lab, you can read:
> Halabi
> Jeff Doyle (1 &2)
> BGP-4 by parkhurst
> and many more.
>
> Good luck,
> A Strobel ( working on the lab exam.)
>
>
>
> Quoting Kris Keen :
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'll be preparing for the CCIE written exam very shortly, Im in the
> process
> > of building the tid bits for my lab and collecting the reading
material..
> >
> > What books should I read at a min, and what would be even more
> advantgeous?
> >
> > I have all the CCNP books (Exam Cert Guides) and Doyles TCPIP Vol 1.
> >
> > Please help...
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Kris
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Re: CCIE Written Reading.. [7:41017]

2002-04-11 Thread jb

Kris,
I fully recomend the nli's book, very good, you could get it from
www.ccbootcamp.com but the most important element is be able to understand
the material.Don't ignore the cisco web site as well as the blue print.
Good luck,
JB
""Kris Keen""  wrote in message
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> Hi All,
>
> I'll be preparing for the CCIE written exam very shortly, Im in the
process
> of building the tid bits for my lab and collecting the reading material..
>
> What books should I read at a min, and what would be even more
advantgeous?
>
> I have all the CCNP books (Exam Cert Guides) and Doyles TCPIP Vol 1.
>
> Please help...
>
> Thanks!
> Kris




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Re: Frame-Relay Problem [7:41250]

2002-04-11 Thread PING

The question is that Caslow says on page-110 that if FR switching is
on, just enabling the encapsulation will bring up the PVC by using
inverse arp. I don't see that happening.

/N

"Engelhard M. Labiro" wrote:

> Ping,
>
> Have you configure the following comands on FR switch ?
> 1. Global config mode : "frame-relay switching"
> 2. Interface config mode: "frame-relay intf-type dce"
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "PING"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:49 AM
> Subject: Frame-Relay Problem [7:41250]
>
> > If I have this simple net:
> >
> > 3660(FR Switch)---3640
> >
> > I am using NM-4T on both routers.
> > Default (HDLC) encapsulation causes both router serial interfaces to
> > come up. I am trying inverse ARP from Caslow book but as
> > soon as I enable FR (or even PPP) encap, line goes down. 3660 is the DCE
> >
> > and supplying clock.
> > I am not sure if someone has tried NM-4T with FR?
> >
> > /N




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Re: Frame-Relay Problem [7:41250]

2002-04-11 Thread PING

Yes. It works from 3660 to 3800. Doesn't work from
NM-4T to NM-4T.

/N

Chris Camplejohn wrote:

> Did you put frame-relay intf-type on the frame-interface?
>
> Chris
>
> ""PING""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > If I have this simple net:
> >
> > 3660(FR Switch)---3640
> >
> > I am using NM-4T on both routers.
> > Default (HDLC) encapsulation causes both router serial interfaces to
> > come up. I am trying inverse ARP from Caslow book but as
> > soon as I enable FR (or even PPP) encap, line goes down. 3660 is the DCE
> >
> > and supplying clock.
> > I am not sure if someone has tried NM-4T with FR?
> >
> > /N




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Re: Frame-Relay Problem [7:41250]

2002-04-11 Thread Engelhard M. Labiro

Ping,

Have you configure the following comands on FR switch ?
1. Global config mode : "frame-relay switching"
2. Interface config mode: "frame-relay intf-type dce"



- Original Message - 
From: "PING" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:49 AM
Subject: Frame-Relay Problem [7:41250]


> If I have this simple net:
> 
> 3660(FR Switch)---3640
> 
> I am using NM-4T on both routers.
> Default (HDLC) encapsulation causes both router serial interfaces to
> come up. I am trying inverse ARP from Caslow book but as
> soon as I enable FR (or even PPP) encap, line goes down. 3660 is the DCE
> 
> and supplying clock.
> I am not sure if someone has tried NM-4T with FR?
> 
> /N




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4006 Power Supplies [7:41257]

2002-04-11 Thread Jeffrey Reed

Im trying to understand power redundancy in the Cisco 4006 switch. Reading
through the online information, Cisco seems to imply you must have at least
two power supplies up and running at all times. The 3rd power supply
provides redundancy. Other vendors allow you to run at least a partially
populated chassis on one power supply. If I have a 4006 with SUPII and one
48-port blade, do I really need three power supplies? Anyone have experience
with 4006s and power supplies?

Thanks!!

Jeffrey Reed
Classic Networking, Inc.
Cell 717-805-5536
Office 717-737-8586
FAX 717-737-0290




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Boson Security Tests? (Cisco Security Specialist 1) [7:41256]

2002-04-11 Thread Sean Knox

I am thinking of purchasing one of the MCNS Boson tests as well as a Boson
CSPFA test... anyone purchased/used these? Recommendations?

- Sean




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RE: Frame-Relay Problem [7:41250]

2002-04-11 Thread Lupi, Guy

Do you have another router to connect to the 3660?  This would give you a
better idea of how it really works.  It looks like right now you are trying
to do frame relay back to back, which also works, but it depends on how you
have your settings.  If you want to do frame relay encapsulation back to
back, take a look at this link:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/125/frbacktoback_hybrid.html

Guy

-Original Message-
From: PING
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 4/11/2002 9:49 PM
Subject: Frame-Relay Problem [7:41250]

If I have this simple net:

3660(FR Switch)---3640

I am using NM-4T on both routers.
Default (HDLC) encapsulation causes both router serial interfaces to
come up. I am trying inverse ARP from Caslow book but as
soon as I enable FR (or even PPP) encap, line goes down. 3660 is the DCE

and supplying clock.
I am not sure if someone has tried NM-4T with FR?

/N




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Re: Frame-Relay Problem [7:41250]

2002-04-11 Thread Chris Camplejohn

Did you put frame-relay intf-type on the frame-interface?

Chris

""PING""  wrote in message
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> If I have this simple net:
>
> 3660(FR Switch)---3640
>
> I am using NM-4T on both routers.
> Default (HDLC) encapsulation causes both router serial interfaces to
> come up. I am trying inverse ARP from Caslow book but as
> soon as I enable FR (or even PPP) encap, line goes down. 3660 is the DCE
>
> and supplying clock.
> I am not sure if someone has tried NM-4T with FR?
>
> /N




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Re: Requirement for PT CCIE or near CCIE (DC based w travel) [7:41253]

2002-04-11 Thread mlh

Do you really think you can find a CCIE who is designed for your strict
requirement? I don't think so.

- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Glaser" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:10 PM
Subject: Requirement for PT CCIE or near CCIE (DC based w travel) [3:4413]


> Following is a new request that is very thin re details for competitive
> reasons, but really hot.
>
> The client is seeking a PT (approximately 1 week a month) CCIE or near
CCIE
> who has worked extensively with  CISCO 7000, CISCO 12000 and GSR in a
> variety of situations and for multiple  clients, who can be available and
> travel one week a month, conduct assessments, write recommendations, etc.
> The client will use this consultant, if they meet the criteria and satisfy
> the end clients, about 6-12 times over the next 12 months. Therefore
> communication skills, consulting skills, maturity, etc. mean something.
> PLEASE understand that this is part-time, on an as-needed basis. It could
> lead to full time--but given this market, that is a wish rather than a
> guarantee.
>
> THIS IS NOT an entry level position AND IT IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR INDEPENDENT
> CONSULTANTS (1099 or CORP-CORP) who are either US Citizens, Green Card
> Holders or TN VISA holders. No agencies or third party
>
> RATE IS CRITICAL--If yu think you can bill yourself at BIG 4( sorry
> Andersen) rates, then please save us both a lot of trouble.and don't send
in
> the reusme.
>
>
> Send resume, contact information and billing rate (travel will be billed
> separately) to me ASAP.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeffrey Glaser
> NewGen Technologies, Inc.
> 703-729-3382
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -
> Do You Yahoo!?
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Re: What is the best HyperTerminal program for Linux? [7:41228]

2002-04-11 Thread Jeffrey W. Hall

Does anyone know of a good step by step tutorial for setting up minicom 
for use to terminal into routers and switches?  Pardon my ignorance, 
I've done a good amount of work with linux, but I've never used any 
terminal program besides HyperTerminal (don't laugh) on anything but 
windows.  I've been studying over the man pages, but they're about as 
confusing as I've found.

TIA,

Jeff

Kent Hundley wrote:

>minicom or, the x version, xminicom.  It should be included in most linux
>distros.
>
>-Kent
>
>-Original Message-
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>hall
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:16 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: What is the best HyperTerminal program for Linux? [7:41228]
>
>
>I'm looking for a good hyperterminal program for linux, if anyone has any
>recommendations.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jeff




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acess level 15 - [7:41251]

2002-04-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

HI,

1. Getting an error while trying to use browser to configure vpn conc.3000
series, - "access level 15".

2.neiher thru telnet I am able to successfully login - except for console
port.

Can any1 tell me where is the mistake i hv made
Thankx




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Frame-Relay Problem [7:41250]

2002-04-11 Thread PING

If I have this simple net:

3660(FR Switch)---3640

I am using NM-4T on both routers.
Default (HDLC) encapsulation causes both router serial interfaces to
come up. I am trying inverse ARP from Caslow book but as
soon as I enable FR (or even PPP) encap, line goes down. 3660 is the DCE

and supplying clock.
I am not sure if someone has tried NM-4T with FR?

/N




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What is better? MLPP or load balancing with IOS [7:41249]

2002-04-11 Thread Sayeed Mohammed

Hello,

I am planning to load balance 3 T1 lines going to same destination. I would
like to know if somebody has implemented MLPPP for this purpose? Is it
better than IOS load balancing? Cisco document says that MLPP is better but
more CPU intensive. Please give your real life experience.

Thanks.

Sayeed




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Re: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]

2002-04-11 Thread Wes Stevens

Not totally true. I will have to look up the formula but there is one for 
computing delay on a line and it does come into play. I have a large voice 
network to latin america. You are right the each router adds a chunk - about 
20 ms of delay if they are not overloaded, but a line down to Argentina adds 
almost as much and that is if it is fiber all the way. When you start 
looking at voice budgets you have to take line delay into account.


>From: "sam sneed" 
>Reply-To: "sam sneed" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]
>Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:35:02 -0400
>
>The speed the bits travel should be negligible in comparison with the time
>it takes the intermediate(routers, switch,...) and end nodes to
>receive/process the signal. So if you're curious for computational purposes
>it wouldn;t matter. Electricty in a vacuum travels at light speed. I'm not
>sure the effect a copper medium would have. It would probably be less due 
>to
>interference and other electromagnetic influeneces.
>
>sam sneed
>
>
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> > Ok I have spent ages trying to find an answer to this question, and
>probably
> > only added to my confusion. You know how it is you spend ages looking at
> > something and become snow blind or get tunnel vision or whatever, but I
> > cannot see the answer to the following:
> >
> > How far does a bit travel in say 1 second or put another way how long 
>does
>a
> > bit take to travel a certain distance ?
> >
> > I understand, or think I do that if the line is say 128kbps then I can, 
>in
> > theory at least, expect 128,000 (approx) bits start down that line every
> > second.
> >
> > But how long do they take to reach the other end, assuming a point to
>point
> > link and both ends being the same speed, obviously.
> >
> > There has to be a nice simple formula for this somewhere, you know the
>sort
> > of thing x= line speed, y = distance z = time etc
> >
> > Any ideas or poitners would be appreciated
> >
> > Thanks
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Teleos switch [7:41247]

2002-04-11 Thread Ad L

Hi guys,
Please advise me how to use this switch. Can I set it up as a ISDN
simulator? I don't have manual for this one.
Thanks.


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RE: New Syslog... [7:41209]

2002-04-11 Thread Tim Potier

Although I have not used the syslog function of this app, the 3com app is
pretty cool too.  Unfortunately, it only runs on Windows, but combines a
FTP/TFTP server and client, as well as a syslog server.  Not shabby..and free!





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RE: Passed CSIDS - now a CSS1 [7:41227]

2002-04-11 Thread Tim Potier

I too just finished all 4 exams, and found that if sufficiently prepared for
the MCNS, the other exams were not terribly difficult... just a re-hash. 
Used Cisco Press MCNS book... this will get you through all but CSIDS.  For
that, I used used the Cisco website.

Congrats on your success.Chewy Gravy wrote:
> 
> Just finished the CSIDS exam, completing the series of four to
> become a CSS1.
> 
> My take, if anyone is interested, is below, and tests are in
> the order I
> took them:
> 
> MCNS - I'm glad I took this one first, as it covered all the
> material of
> the next two exams.
> CSPFA - A slightly more focused rehash of MCNS. I referred back
> to MCNS
> quite a bit to clarify info.
> CSVPN - Again, most everything was covered in CSPFA and MCNS
> CSIDS - All in all, the easiest of the exams.
> 
> In all cases, the only prep material I had was the courseware
> and Boson
> exams. I've worked with the Pix for 3 years, but unfortunately
> have no
> hands-on exposure to the CSDIS hardware.
> 
> Almost all the tests were difficult, none terribly so, and the
> CSIDS exam
> was just this side of a joke. The tests were also better
> written than the
> CCNP/CCNA exams I've taken.
> 
> If I wasn't so tired, this would be louder: woo hoo.
> 
> 
> Doug
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> =
> 
> 




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Clear counters on NM-1A-T3 card? [7:41244]

2002-04-11 Thread Craig Columbus

Anyone know how to clear the statistics that show up in the output of a "sh 
controllers atm1/0" command?  Clear counters has no effect, clear atm stat 
has no effect.
Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Craig




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Re: Ping times? Am i missing something [7:41151]

2002-04-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette)

Okay, I'm much clearer on this now. So in reality, the IP TTL
doesn't really measure anything anymore, we just need to make sure our
routers decrement it so that a box getting an IP packet with 0 will
discard it any not let it float around the networka aimlessly.

Thanks for the help.  Much appreciated!

Tim


On 11 Apr 2002 13:54:41 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Priscilla
Oppenheimer") wrote:

>Timoue (timeout!? ;-)
>
>IP TTL is a reverse hop count. The sender sets it to some large number like 
>255 or 64 or 32 (depending on the OS). Each router decrements it by one. If 
>that causes the TTL to become zero, then the packet is dead. The router 
>discards it. The goal is to stop a packet from travelling around an 
>internetwork forever, which could happen if there were a routing loop.
>
>Originally, the IP designers also envisioned that the TTL could be a rough 
>measurement of time. A router could decrement the TTL by more than one if 
>it took more than one second to handle the frame. The router could 
>decrement the TTL by the number of seconds it took to work on the frame. 
>These days if a router took more than a second to forward a frame, you 
>would pull the plug and use it as a boat anchor.
>
>Some protocol analyzers still show the TTL value as hops/seconds. I think 
>the Sniffer still does this. It's misleading for two reasons. No routers 
>use seconds anymore, and the hops/seconds makes it look like a ratio. Ugh.
>
>One more comment, you were worried about 15,000 milliseconds. Remember 
>that's only 15 seconds. So if the TTL were measured in seconds, 255 would 
>be much bigger.
>
>By the way, my ping using 3600 seconds on my Albany router (see my previous 
>reply) is still sitting there!
>
>Priscilla
>
>
>At 02:58 AM 4/11/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) wrote:
>>Okay, so ICMP doens't specify a TTL on it's own.  Doesn't IP by itself
>>have a TTL of 255?
>>
>>Maybe i'm missing something.
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>On 11 Apr 2002 01:26:56 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Joseph
>>Ezerski") wrote:
>>
>> >Ok, according to Stevens (TCP/IP Illustrated Vol 1), the ICMP Ping Packet
>> >looks like this:
>> >
>> >
>> >0   1   2   3
>> >0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
>> >   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>> >   | Type  | Code  |  Checksum |
>> >   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>> >   |  Identifier   |  Sequence Number  |
>> >   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>> >   |  Optional Data|
>> >   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>> >
>> >The RFC 792, does not specify a time value, other than IP TTL (at that
>time,
>> >assumed to be in units of seconds).  I think it really depends on how
your
>> >OS has implemented it.  For example, on my Windows PC, the default
timeout
>> >is 2000ms.  However, there is an option you can set (-w in the windows
>> >world) to extend that timeout.  Stevens mentions something about newer
>UNIX
>> >implementations (as of the early 90s) timing out after 20 seconds.  My
>> >Solaris box times out after 20 s, and it is listed in the man pages as
>such.
>> >
>> >HTH
>> >
>> >-Joe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> >Ouellette, Tim
>> >Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:13 PM
>> >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>> >Subject: Ping times? Am i missing something
>> >
>> >
>> >The other day while troubleshooting an issue, I saw some pings from out
>> >Tivoli Netview box and it was showing ping times in the 15,000+ ms range.
>Is
>> >this possible? I though there was a limit on this particular field in the
>> >head. If an of our frame-format experts (Priscilla?)  or sniffer gurus
>> >(again... Priscilla?), could point me someone I'd appreciate it.  Thanks
a
>> >bunch!
>> >_
>> >Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html
>> >Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list.
>
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>http://www.priscilla.com




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RE: What is the best HyperTerminal program for Linux? [7:41228]

2002-04-11 Thread Jeffrey Hall

As usual, you guys have come through with much, much help.  I can't thank
you enough.  Regrettably, the only terminal emulation program I've used to
date is HyperTerminal.

Thanks very much.

Jeff


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RE: CCNP exams [7:41039]

2002-04-11 Thread colin newman

Try www.nerdbooks.com.  Theri prices are just as good if not better.
If you have a question, you can call and the owner or one of his in store
staffers will take the call personally.  These guys really know their books
(unlike most book stores).


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Re: Change the Bridge ID on a cat5k [7:41226]

2002-04-11 Thread Manny Gonzalez

Hmmm, oh man, no no no. I did get in there... I meant change the bridge
ID... hehehehe

LEt me know.

Daniel Cotts wrote:
> 
> Tested on both a Sup II and a Sup III.
> URL is incorrect
> password HW FW SW enablepass
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Manny Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:05 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Change the Bridge ID on a cat5k [7:41226]
> >
> >
> > Okay, here is a link to instructions on how to get into
> > Engineering Mode. I
> > am banging away at it
> > figuring out how to do it. If someone finds out first, please
> > post your
> > findings :-)))
> >
> > http://www.heinzulm.com/Cat1.htm
> > _
> > Manny Gonzalez ... CCIE# 9013
> > Sr. Network Analyst . NY Presbyterian
> > _
> >
> > Manny Gonzalez wrote:
> > >
> > > Tisk tisk!! Hehehee, you cheated Tim. hahahaha. See, I have
> > eyes in here
> > too.
> > >
> > > Well, the quick answer is NOT POSSIBLE. The long answer is this:
> > >
> > > Cisco's Catalyst OS makes a pool of 1024 addresses available to the
> > switch. The switch will assign
> > > addresses to each VLAN, PORT, etc. sequentially until it is
> > exhausted. THe
> > SC0 gets the last address
> > > in the first module's range.
> > >
> > > This is ALL BURNED IN AND NOT CHANGEABLE EASILY. Or so I
> > have been told ...
> > >
> > > Hard answer is that it is doable in ENGINEERING MODE or
> > something. So I am
> > still digging for this.
> > > It is kind of interesting that Cisco itself has absolutely
> > NO MENTION of
> > the fact that it is not
> > > easily changeable :-(
> > >
> > > I mean on a router you just do:
> > >
> > > mac-address 0022.3344.5566
> > >
> > > and bam!
> > >
> > > :-))
> > >
> >
> > >
> > > Timothy Ouellette wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Scouring cisco for an answer that someone mentioned.
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to change the Bridge-ID (BID) for a particular
> > vlan on a
> > > > cat5k. I know it's possible if I just change the priorty for that
> > > > particular vlan. Is it possible to change the mac address
> > on a vlan so
> > > > that the BID will change without change the prioty.
> > Here's the question
> > > > that was posed "how does one change the bridge ID for
> > VLAN 200 on a
> > > > Catalyst 5000 (os is 5.5(10)b"
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone help?
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > > _
> > > > Commercial lab list:
> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html
> > > > Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list.
> > > --
> > > _
> > > Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html
> > > Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list.
> > --
> > _
> > Manny Gonzalez ... CCIE# 9013
> > Sr. Network Analyst . NY Presbyterian
> > _
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_
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_




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RE: syslog [7:41165]

2002-04-11 Thread Mark Odette II

He's a question I've always was curious about:

If you have your linux box/unix box set up for logging, but you want to log
more than 7 devices with their own log file, how do you do it if you only
have 6-7 facilities (local0-local7) to work with in the syslog.conf file?!?!


all tips and tricks appreciated.

-Mark

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[to maintainers of the list: it seems that something gets confused in
software if something thaty looks like html is used]


You do following on the router:

logging NameOrIpOfLinuxBox
logging trap debug ! choose different level as you desire
logging facility local1! choose different facility as you desire

On Linux box:

1. make sure that you have syslog running with "-r" (and "-h", if desired -
see man syslogd) switch
2. edit /etc/syslog.conf and add:

local1.*[tab]/var/log/router.log


Note: [tab] is actual tab character, not n number of spaces.


Marko.

> -Original Message-
> From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: fimmtudagur, 11. aprml 2002. 12:59
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: syslog [7:41165]
>
>
> You do following on the router:
>
> logging NameOrIpOfLinuxBox
> logging trap debug/var/log/router.log
>
>
>   Note:  is actual tab character, not n number of spaces.
>
>
> Marko.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: kaushalender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: fimmtudagur, 11. aprml 2002. 11:30
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: syslog [7:41165]
> >
> >
> > Hi group
> >
> > I have 2610 router and a linux machine.Can somebody help me how to
> > configure router that all possible messages which r coming
> on console
> > shouls be diverted on that linux machine .
> >
> > Thanx in advance
> > Kaushalender




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RE: Change the Bridge ID on a cat5k [7:41226]

2002-04-11 Thread Daniel Cotts

Tested on both a Sup II and a Sup III.
URL is incorrect
password HW FW SW enablepass

> -Original Message-
> From: Manny Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Change the Bridge ID on a cat5k [7:41226]
> 
> 
> Okay, here is a link to instructions on how to get into 
> Engineering Mode. I
> am banging away at it
> figuring out how to do it. If someone finds out first, please 
> post your
> findings :-)))
> 
> http://www.heinzulm.com/Cat1.htm
> _
> Manny Gonzalez ... CCIE# 9013
> Sr. Network Analyst . NY Presbyterian
> _
> 
> Manny Gonzalez wrote:
> > 
> > Tisk tisk!! Hehehee, you cheated Tim. hahahaha. See, I have 
> eyes in here
> too.
> > 
> > Well, the quick answer is NOT POSSIBLE. The long answer is this:
> > 
> > Cisco's Catalyst OS makes a pool of 1024 addresses available to the
> switch. The switch will assign
> > addresses to each VLAN, PORT, etc. sequentially until it is 
> exhausted. THe
> SC0 gets the last address
> > in the first module's range.
> > 
> > This is ALL BURNED IN AND NOT CHANGEABLE EASILY. Or so I 
> have been told ...
> > 
> > Hard answer is that it is doable in ENGINEERING MODE or 
> something. So I am
> still digging for this.
> > It is kind of interesting that Cisco itself has absolutely 
> NO MENTION of
> the fact that it is not
> > easily changeable :-(
> > 
> > I mean on a router you just do:
> > 
> > mac-address 0022.3344.5566
> > 
> > and bam!
> > 
> > :-))
> > 
> 
> > 
> > Timothy Ouellette wrote:
> > >
> > > Scouring cisco for an answer that someone mentioned.
> > >
> > > I'm trying to change the Bridge-ID (BID) for a particular 
> vlan on a
> > > cat5k. I know it's possible if I just change the priorty for that
> > > particular vlan. Is it possible to change the mac address 
> on a vlan so
> > > that the BID will change without change the prioty.  
> Here's the question
> > > that was posed "how does one change the bridge ID for 
> VLAN 200 on a
> > > Catalyst 5000 (os is 5.5(10)b"
> > >
> > > Can anyone help?
> > >
> > > Tim
> > > _
> > > Commercial lab list: 
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html
> > > Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list.
> > --
> > _
> > Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html
> > Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list.
> -- 
> _
> Manny Gonzalez ... CCIE# 9013
> Sr. Network Analyst . NY Presbyterian
> _




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RE: What is the best HyperTerminal program for Linux? [7:41228]

2002-04-11 Thread Kent Hundley

minicom or, the x version, xminicom.  It should be included in most linux
distros.

-Kent

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I'm looking for a good hyperterminal program for linux, if anyone has any
recommendations.

Thanks,

Jeff




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RE: What is the best HyperTerminal program for Linux? [7:41228]

2002-04-11 Thread Chris Headings

I agree with Larry.  We use SecureCRT as we do not use telnet but only SSH
to our UNIX/Linux machines.  It is a GREAT program...

Chris


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RE: CCNP Exam [7:41230]

2002-04-11 Thread Larry Letterman

That depends on how you like to do your test,
Personally I preferred the individual test since
I worked on each subject for a month or so. To do
all 3 at once was a lot more than I could do from memory
in one sitting...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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Hi All,

I need suggestion for my ccnp exam, Is it easy to take all three exam (
Routing, switching and Remote access) together in a single paper, or Its
easy to give individual exam for Routing,switching and Remote access.

Regards
Ravi




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RE: What is the best HyperTerminal program for Linux? [7:41228]

2002-04-11 Thread Larry Letterman

the best one is not to use HT at all...
Get a term application that works...

tera term, reflections, secure crt, etc..


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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I'm looking for a good hyperterminal program for linux, if anyone has any
recommendations.

Thanks,

Jeff




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RE: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]

2002-04-11 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

I'm going to chip in both with some simplifying rules and some 
additional information.  I suggest you also read RFCs 2679 and 2544. 
I will have the first white paper of a performance series available 
free on Certzone on May 1.


>now if he recited that from memory, we should all just throw in the
>towel hehe  :)  I certainly suck at math anyway...reciting some crazy
>formula to calculate latency would send me over the edge!
>
  "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  04/11/02 02:44PM >>>
>Great answer!
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 02:01 PM 4/11/02, Kent Hundley wrote:
>>There are several factors:
>>
>>1) Clock rate of the line
>>2) Buffering delay by any intermediary devices such as ATM/FR switches

 Both actual forwarding by the intermediary device plus internal 
buffering delays.

>  >3) Speed of light
>>
>>If we take a simple case and say that there are no layer 2 devices in the
>>path and only digital cross-connects.  I have read (somewhere) that the
>>speed of electron transference in copper is a little faster than the speed
>>of light in fiber over short distance, so use the speed of light in fiber
>>(roughly .7 X 186,000 miles per second) as the baseline. (note that the
>>reference given by another poster says the speed of electromagnetic signals
>>in copper is .66 of the speed of light, which would mean it is slightly
>>slower than speed of light in fiber, either way its pretty close to a wash)
>>Given these assumptions you get:

It actually varies among copper cable types.  Thick Ethernet is about 
.66c, while thinwire is about .5 c.

A practical approximation for WANs is six microseconds per kilometer 
of airline distance.  In cities, multiply that distance by 3.

>  >
>>speed of a single bit = speed of line insertion for 1 bit + speed of light
>>delay + speed of line removal for 1 bit
>>
>>speed of line insertion for 1 bit = speed of line removal for 1 bit =
>>1/clock rate
>>
>>speed of light delay = number of miles / (.7 * 186000 miles per second)
>>
>>
>>
>>As an example, for a clock rate of 128Kbps and a distance of 1000 miles:
>>
>>speed of line insertion and removal for 1 bit = 2 * (1/128000) = .15625
>>sec = .015625 ms
>>
>>speed of light delay = 1000 / (.7 * 186000) = .00768 sec = 7.68 ms
>>
>>7.68 ms + .015625 ms = 7.7 ms (roughly)
>>
>>Again, this assumes no delay in buffering in the path of any kind.  It also
>>assumes that there is no congestion at either end of the link.  Bottom
line,
>  >keep in mind these are rough numbers, but I think you get the idea.




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Re: CCDP [7:41071]

2002-04-11 Thread Clayton Dukes

They are separate tracks, but you have always needed the CCNA before you
were awarded the CCDA.


Clayton Dukes
Cisco Info Center SE
CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, NCC
(h) 904-292-1881
(c) 904-477-7825
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> Don't be, this looks like its relatively new. I remember looking into CCDA
> 6-9 months ago. You did not need CCNA to get CCDA back then. They were
> totally seperate tracks.I'm sure of it.
>
>
> ""Patrick Bass""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm sooo embarassed! :-)
> >
> >
> > ""[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)""  wrote in
> > message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > On Aug 31,  1:18pm, "Patrick Bass" wrote:
> > > }
> > > } To be a CCDP you need CCDA certification, CID exam plus Routing (or
> > BSCI),
> > > } Switching, and Remote Access (or you can just take Foundations exam
> and
> > > skip
> > > } the Routing, Switching and Remote Access).
> > > }
> > > } Check out this URL for CCDP
> > > }
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan2/programs/ccdp.h
> > > } tml
> > >
> > >  You had better go read that page again.  It contains a box that
> says:
> > >
> > >  CCDP Prerequisites
> > >  Valid CCNA and CCDA certifications
> > >
> > > }-- End of excerpt from "Patrick Bass"




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CCNP Exam [7:41230]

2002-04-11 Thread Ravishankar Tiwari

Hi All,

I need suggestion for my ccnp exam, Is it easy to take all three exam (
Routing, switching and Remote access) together in a single paper, or Its
easy to give individual exam for Routing,switching and Remote access.

Regards
Ravi




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Re: CCIE Lab Practice WorkBook ECP-1. Any Comments. [7:41229]

2002-04-11 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Hey, I think I'll hold out for #!  :-)
>
>Todd


Wonder if there's a CCIE #?

>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Manny Gonzalez" 
>To: "Todd Carswell" 
>Cc: "John Mistichelli" ; "Chris Hugo"
>; 
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:12 AM
>Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Practice WorkBook ECP-1. Any Comments.
>
>
>>  Todd, shoot for 4 numbers dude. You don't want a "zip code" do you? :-)
>>
>>  Although CCIE# 1 would be neat!
>>  _
>>  Manny Gonzalez ... CCIE# 9013
>>  Sr. Network Analyst . NY Presbyterian
>>  _
>>
>>
>>  Todd Carswell wrote:
>>  >
>>  > Chris,
>>  >
>>  > Mentor went out of business, but Caslow and his boys started their own
>>  > company!  Check them out at www.netmasterclass.net
>>  >
>>  > Their classes are now called NMC-1 and NMC-2.  I just attended NMC-1
and
>I
>>  > was really pleased.  I'm certain that it will go a long way towards
>getting
>>  > me those coveted 4 (or 5) numbers.
>>  >
>  > > Take care.
>>  >
>>  > Todd Carswell
>>  >
>  > > Disclaimer: I do NOT work for Bruce Caslow or netmasterclass.




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What is the best HyperTerminal program for Linux? [7:41228]

2002-04-11 Thread hall

I'm looking for a good hyperterminal program for linux, if anyone has any
recommendations.

Thanks,

Jeff




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Re: Change the Bridge ID on a cat5k [7:41226]

2002-04-11 Thread Manny Gonzalez

Okay, here is a link to instructions on how to get into Engineering Mode. I
am banging away at it
figuring out how to do it. If someone finds out first, please post your
findings :-)))

http://www.heinzulm.com/Cat1.htm
_
Manny Gonzalez ... CCIE# 9013
Sr. Network Analyst . NY Presbyterian
_

Manny Gonzalez wrote:
> 
> Tisk tisk!! Hehehee, you cheated Tim. hahahaha. See, I have eyes in here
too.
> 
> Well, the quick answer is NOT POSSIBLE. The long answer is this:
> 
> Cisco's Catalyst OS makes a pool of 1024 addresses available to the
switch. The switch will assign
> addresses to each VLAN, PORT, etc. sequentially until it is exhausted. THe
SC0 gets the last address
> in the first module's range.
> 
> This is ALL BURNED IN AND NOT CHANGEABLE EASILY. Or so I have been told ...
> 
> Hard answer is that it is doable in ENGINEERING MODE or something. So I am
still digging for this.
> It is kind of interesting that Cisco itself has absolutely NO MENTION of
the fact that it is not
> easily changeable :-(
> 
> I mean on a router you just do:
> 
> mac-address 0022.3344.5566
> 
> and bam!
> 
> :-))
> 

> 
> Timothy Ouellette wrote:
> >
> > Scouring cisco for an answer that someone mentioned.
> >
> > I'm trying to change the Bridge-ID (BID) for a particular vlan on a
> > cat5k. I know it's possible if I just change the priorty for that
> > particular vlan. Is it possible to change the mac address on a vlan so
> > that the BID will change without change the prioty.  Here's the question
> > that was posed "how does one change the bridge ID for VLAN 200 on a
> > Catalyst 5000 (os is 5.5(10)b"
> >
> > Can anyone help?
> >
> > Tim
> > _
> > Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html
> > Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list.
> --
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Passed CSIDS - now a CSS1 [7:41227]

2002-04-11 Thread Chewy Gravy

Just finished the CSIDS exam, completing the series of four to become a CSS1.

My take, if anyone is interested, is below, and tests are in the order I 
took them:

MCNS - I'm glad I took this one first, as it covered all the material of 
the next two exams.
CSPFA - A slightly more focused rehash of MCNS. I referred back to MCNS 
quite a bit to clarify info.
CSVPN - Again, most everything was covered in CSPFA and MCNS
CSIDS - All in all, the easiest of the exams.

In all cases, the only prep material I had was the courseware and Boson 
exams. I've worked with the Pix for 3 years, but unfortunately have no 
hands-on exposure to the CSDIS hardware.

Almost all the tests were difficult, none terribly so, and the CSIDS exam 
was just this side of a joke. The tests were also better written than the 
CCNP/CCNA exams I've taken.

If I wasn't so tired, this would be louder: woo hoo.


Doug
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Re: CCIE Lab Purchase - Pots simulator - Need opinion [7:41128]

2002-04-11 Thread sam sneed

Never have tried it, but could you please let us know if it ends up being
worth it if you do buy it.
Thanks.


""scott chapin""  wrote in message
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> Hello all - Unfortunately, I do not have funds to go out and buy an ISDN
> simulator.  I have been looking at POTs simulators as a very cheap
> alternative.  I will still be able to do DDR, PPP, etc.
>
> Has anyone had any experience with a Viking DLE-200.  It goes for
> around $135.00.
>
> Check out this url - watch the word wrap...
>
http://www.TWAcomm.com/Catalog/Dept_ID_108.htm?SID=30TSQJUWWJD58NH8URLJMR7T7
BD4DH75
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thank you.
>
> Scott Chapin, CCNP




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Re: Problem to configure IS-IS [7:41138]

2002-04-11 Thread Peter van Oene

CLNS is not need for IS-IS routing for IP

At 03:03 PM 4/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Did you enable CLNS routing? You need to turn this on before you can
>configure ISIS.
>
>Anthony Pace
>
>
>""nntp.groupstudy.com""  wrote in message
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> > Hi, Group,
> >
> > I am trying to configure IS-IS at CCIE lab, and two of my router did not
> > allow
> > me to get into the IS-IS router mode.  I wonder if anyone can tell me
what
> > the
> > problem is.  See following router output:
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ruihai
> >
> > IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-DS-M), Version 12.1(13), RELEASE SOFTWARE
> > (fc3)
> > System image file is "flash:c2600-ds-mz.121-13.bin"
> >
> > cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x202) with 39936K/9216K bytes of
> > memory
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Re: CCDP [7:41071]

2002-04-11 Thread sam sneed

Don't be, this looks like its relatively new. I remember looking into CCDA
6-9 months ago. You did not need CCNA to get CCDA back then. They were
totally seperate tracks.I'm sure of it.


""Patrick Bass""  wrote in message
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> I'm sooo embarassed! :-)
>
>
> ""[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)""  wrote in
> message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Aug 31,  1:18pm, "Patrick Bass" wrote:
> > }
> > } To be a CCDP you need CCDA certification, CID exam plus Routing (or
> BSCI),
> > } Switching, and Remote Access (or you can just take Foundations exam
and
> > skip
> > } the Routing, Switching and Remote Access).
> > }
> > } Check out this URL for CCDP
> > }
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan2/programs/ccdp.h
> > } tml
> >
> >  You had better go read that page again.  It contains a box that
says:
> >
> >  CCDP Prerequisites
> >  Valid CCNA and CCDA certifications
> >
> > }-- End of excerpt from "Patrick Bass"




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Re: OSPF problem [7:41195]

2002-04-11 Thread sam sneed

It could be one of a few things:
Mismatched area ID,Bad checksum,OSPF not enabled on the receiving
interface,Bad version,Invalid type,Bad link-state update advertisement
count,Bad link-state update length .

Check  http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/19.html .

sam sneed

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> I had a problem between two OSPF neighbors. Here is what I saw in the log:
>
> OSPF-4_ERRRCV Received invalid packet: BAD Version
> OSPF - Mismatch Authentication key - Message Digest Key 1
>
> My question is what is meant by "Bad Version". Anyone seen this.
>
> Tks,
> Scott
>
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Re: ac-path access list [7:40983]

2002-04-11 Thread tony pace

Which means we are attached to AS-10, because if the route had traversed any
other AS's the 10 could not be up against both the $ and the ^ . Would you
agree with that? What would be the regexp for my neigbors routes and my
neigbors directly connected customers routes? (meaning 10 would be the last
AS it traversed and their could be one and only one other AS in the list and
we don't care what it is)

Anthony Pace
- Original Message -
From: "Ouellette, Tim" 
To: "'Anthony Pace'" 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:16 PM
Subject: RE: ac-path access list [7:40983]


> Actually, from my understanding. The ^ means beginning and $ means ends.
So
> ^10$ means starting with 10 and ending with 10.  So basically 10 is the
only
> thing in the path. Originated and advertised directly from.
>
> Tim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Anthony Pace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 6:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ac-path access list [7:40983]
>
>
> A. will catch any routes which have ever traversed AS-10
>
> B. will catch only routes which have originated in 10 and have just come
> into your AS from AS-10 (meaning you would be directly connected to AS-10.
>
> Does anyone else interperete B differently than this??
>
> Anthony Pace
>
>
> ""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
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> > Is there any difference in these two commands?
> >
> > A.  ip as-path access-list deny _10_
> >
> > B.  ip as-path access-list deny ^10$
> >
> > If I understand corerctly, they both deny AS 10, and only 10.
> >
> > --
> >
> > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > Get in my head:
> > http://sar.dynu.com




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Re: Problem to configure IS-IS [7:41138]

2002-04-11 Thread Anthony Pace

Did you enable CLNS routing? You need to turn this on before you can
configure ISIS.

Anthony Pace


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> Hi, Group,
>
> I am trying to configure IS-IS at CCIE lab, and two of my router did not
> allow
> me to get into the IS-IS router mode.  I wonder if anyone can tell me what
> the
> problem is.  See following router output:
>
> Thanks
>
> Ruihai
>
> IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-DS-M), Version 12.1(13), RELEASE SOFTWARE
> (fc3)
> System image file is "flash:c2600-ds-mz.121-13.bin"
>
> cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x202) with 39936K/9216K bytes of
> memory
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RE: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]

2002-04-11 Thread Patrick Ramsey

now if he recited that from memory, we should all just throw in the
towel hehe  :)  I certainly suck at math anyway...reciting some crazy
formula to calculate latency would send me over the edge!

>>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  04/11/02 02:44PM >>>
Great answer!

Priscilla

At 02:01 PM 4/11/02, Kent Hundley wrote:
>There are several factors:
>
>1) Clock rate of the line
>2) Buffering delay by any intermediary devices such as ATM/FR switches
>3) Speed of light
>
>If we take a simple case and say that there are no layer 2 devices in the
>path and only digital cross-connects.  I have read (somewhere) that the
>speed of electron transference in copper is a little faster than the speed
>of light in fiber over short distance, so use the speed of light in fiber
>(roughly .7 X 186,000 miles per second) as the baseline. (note that the
>reference given by another poster says the speed of electromagnetic signals
>in copper is .66 of the speed of light, which would mean it is slightly
>slower than speed of light in fiber, either way its pretty close to a wash)
>Given these assumptions you get:
>
>speed of a single bit = speed of line insertion for 1 bit + speed of light
>delay + speed of line removal for 1 bit
>
>speed of line insertion for 1 bit = speed of line removal for 1 bit =
>1/clock rate
>
>speed of light delay = number of miles / (.7 * 186000 miles per second)
>
>
>
>As an example, for a clock rate of 128Kbps and a distance of 1000 miles:
>
>speed of line insertion and removal for 1 bit = 2 * (1/128000) = .15625
>sec = .015625 ms
>
>speed of light delay = 1000 / (.7 * 186000) = .00768 sec = 7.68 ms
>
>7.68 ms + .015625 ms = 7.7 ms (roughly)
>
>Again, this assumes no delay in buffering in the path of any kind.  It also
>assumes that there is no congestion at either end of the link.  Bottom line,
>keep in mind these are rough numbers, but I think you get the idea.
>
>HTH,
>Kent
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Matthew Tayler
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:01 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Subject: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]
>
>
>Ok I have spent ages trying to find an answer to this question, and probably
>only added to my confusion. You know how it is you spend ages looking at
>something and become snow blind or get tunnel vision or whatever, but I
>cannot see the answer to the following:
>
>How far does a bit travel in say 1 second or put another way how long does a
>bit take to travel a certain distance ?
>
>I understand, or think I do that if the line is say 128kbps then I can, in
>theory at least, expect 128,000 (approx) bits start down that line every
>second.
>
>But how long do they take to reach the other end, assuming a point to point
>link and both ends being the same speed, obviously.
>
>There has to be a nice simple formula for this somewhere, you know the sort
>of thing x= line speed, y = distance z = time etc
>
>Any ideas or poitners would be appreciated
>
>Thanks


Priscilla Oppenheimer
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RE: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]

2002-04-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Great answer!

Priscilla

At 02:01 PM 4/11/02, Kent Hundley wrote:
>There are several factors:
>
>1) Clock rate of the line
>2) Buffering delay by any intermediary devices such as ATM/FR switches
>3) Speed of light
>
>If we take a simple case and say that there are no layer 2 devices in the
>path and only digital cross-connects.  I have read (somewhere) that the
>speed of electron transference in copper is a little faster than the speed
>of light in fiber over short distance, so use the speed of light in fiber
>(roughly .7 X 186,000 miles per second) as the baseline. (note that the
>reference given by another poster says the speed of electromagnetic signals
>in copper is .66 of the speed of light, which would mean it is slightly
>slower than speed of light in fiber, either way its pretty close to a wash)
>Given these assumptions you get:
>
>speed of a single bit = speed of line insertion for 1 bit + speed of light
>delay + speed of line removal for 1 bit
>
>speed of line insertion for 1 bit = speed of line removal for 1 bit =
>1/clock rate
>
>speed of light delay = number of miles / (.7 * 186000 miles per second)
>
>
>
>As an example, for a clock rate of 128Kbps and a distance of 1000 miles:
>
>speed of line insertion and removal for 1 bit = 2 * (1/128000) = .15625
>sec = .015625 ms
>
>speed of light delay = 1000 / (.7 * 186000) = .00768 sec = 7.68 ms
>
>7.68 ms + .015625 ms = 7.7 ms (roughly)
>
>Again, this assumes no delay in buffering in the path of any kind.  It also
>assumes that there is no congestion at either end of the link.  Bottom line,
>keep in mind these are rough numbers, but I think you get the idea.
>
>HTH,
>Kent
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Matthew Tayler
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:01 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]
>
>
>Ok I have spent ages trying to find an answer to this question, and probably
>only added to my confusion. You know how it is you spend ages looking at
>something and become snow blind or get tunnel vision or whatever, but I
>cannot see the answer to the following:
>
>How far does a bit travel in say 1 second or put another way how long does a
>bit take to travel a certain distance ?
>
>I understand, or think I do that if the line is say 128kbps then I can, in
>theory at least, expect 128,000 (approx) bits start down that line every
>second.
>
>But how long do they take to reach the other end, assuming a point to point
>link and both ends being the same speed, obviously.
>
>There has to be a nice simple formula for this somewhere, you know the sort
>of thing x= line speed, y = distance z = time etc
>
>Any ideas or poitners would be appreciated
>
>Thanks


Priscilla Oppenheimer
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RE: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]

2002-04-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 12:50 PM 4/11/02, Jeffrey Reed wrote:
>In theory, doesn't electricity travel at the speed of light? 186,000 feet
>per second, I think.

Miles per seconds! ;-) As Wes said, "The rough calculation for the
propagation
of an electromagnetic signal in wire is 66% of the speed of light in a
vacuum. Or 186000 x 2/3 = 124000 miles/sec."

Here's what we'll be saying in our new book. (It is copyrighted, so don't 
steal the exact wording please, although the concepts are certainly 
universal! ;-)

"A signal in a cable propagates at roughly 2/3 the speed of light in a 
vacuum. The value 0.59c is used for twisted-pair cabling, where c stands 
for the speed of light in a vacuum, which is 300,000 km/s, or 186,282 mi/s. 
To determine how far a signal can travel in 1 second, use the following 
equation:

300,000 km/sec * 0.59 = 177,000 km/sec

In 1 second, a signal can propagate 177,000 km. In that same second, there 
can be 10 million bits on a 10-Mbps Ethernet network. Hence, the electrical 
energy associated with a single bit stretches out 0.0177 km or 17.7 meters. 
A single bit is a very long thing on a cable. The mental image that many of 
us have of bits looking like numerous little box cars in a railroad train, 
moving along a cable, is not very accurate. The 100-meter cable between a 
workstation and a wiring closet, for example, contains only about five 
discrete bits."

(By the way, this has some real-world relevance in Ethernet CSMA/CD. You 
know how you always hear that a single collision domain must not exceed the 
round-trip propagation delay of a minimum sized-frame, 512 bits? The info 
above can help you figure out if your network exceeds that or not.)

Priscilla


>I once read theory that electricity flows through copper more efficiently
>than light flows through fiber, so the electrical bits would arrive first in
>a race.
>
>I have both interfaces here in the lab... I'll time it this afternoon...
>(just kidding).
>
>Jeffrey Reed
>Classic Networking, Inc.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Matthew Tayler
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:01 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]
>
>Ok I have spent ages trying to find an answer to this question, and probably
>only added to my confusion. You know how it is you spend ages looking at
>something and become snow blind or get tunnel vision or whatever, but I
>cannot see the answer to the following:
>
>How far does a bit travel in say 1 second or put another way how long does a
>bit take to travel a certain distance ?
>
>I understand, or think I do that if the line is say 128kbps then I can, in
>theory at least, expect 128,000 (approx) bits start down that line every
>second.
>
>But how long do they take to reach the other end, assuming a point to point
>link and both ends being the same speed, obviously.
>
>There has to be a nice simple formula for this somewhere, you know the sort
>of thing x= line speed, y = distance z = time etc
>
>Any ideas or poitners would be appreciated
>
>Thanks


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RE: CCNP:Switching Exam !! [7:41211]

2002-04-11 Thread Mike Sweeney

know your multilayer switching commands.. 

MikeS



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CCNP:Switching Exam !! [7:41211]

2002-04-11 Thread Uniq Chance

Hi all,

I'm taking the switching test on monday.Any last minute tips for the 
switching exam ??

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Uniq


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RE: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]

2002-04-11 Thread Kent Hundley

There are several factors:

1) Clock rate of the line
2) Buffering delay by any intermediary devices such as ATM/FR switches
3) Speed of light

If we take a simple case and say that there are no layer 2 devices in the
path and only digital cross-connects.  I have read (somewhere) that the
speed of electron transference in copper is a little faster than the speed
of light in fiber over short distance, so use the speed of light in fiber
(roughly .7 X 186,000 miles per second) as the baseline. (note that the
reference given by another poster says the speed of electromagnetic signals
in copper is .66 of the speed of light, which would mean it is slightly
slower than speed of light in fiber, either way its pretty close to a wash)
Given these assumptions you get:

speed of a single bit = speed of line insertion for 1 bit + speed of light
delay + speed of line removal for 1 bit

speed of line insertion for 1 bit = speed of line removal for 1 bit =
1/clock rate

speed of light delay = number of miles / (.7 * 186000 miles per second)



As an example, for a clock rate of 128Kbps and a distance of 1000 miles:

speed of line insertion and removal for 1 bit = 2 * (1/128000) = .15625
sec = .015625 ms

speed of light delay = 1000 / (.7 * 186000) = .00768 sec = 7.68 ms

7.68 ms + .015625 ms = 7.7 ms (roughly)

Again, this assumes no delay in buffering in the path of any kind.  It also
assumes that there is no congestion at either end of the link.  Bottom line,
keep in mind these are rough numbers, but I think you get the idea.

HTH,
Kent


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Subject: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]


Ok I have spent ages trying to find an answer to this question, and probably
only added to my confusion. You know how it is you spend ages looking at
something and become snow blind or get tunnel vision or whatever, but I
cannot see the answer to the following:

How far does a bit travel in say 1 second or put another way how long does a
bit take to travel a certain distance ?

I understand, or think I do that if the line is say 128kbps then I can, in
theory at least, expect 128,000 (approx) bits start down that line every
second.

But how long do they take to reach the other end, assuming a point to point
link and both ends being the same speed, obviously.

There has to be a nice simple formula for this somewhere, you know the sort
of thing x= line speed, y = distance z = time etc

Any ideas or poitners would be appreciated

Thanks




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New Syslog... [7:41209]

2002-04-11 Thread Richard Tufaro

Has anyone checkout out this new Syslog program from Somix? Looks nice..

http://www.somix.com/products/logalot/




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Re: Ping times? Am i missing something [7:41151]

2002-04-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Timoue (timeout!? ;-)

IP TTL is a reverse hop count. The sender sets it to some large number like 
255 or 64 or 32 (depending on the OS). Each router decrements it by one. If 
that causes the TTL to become zero, then the packet is dead. The router 
discards it. The goal is to stop a packet from travelling around an 
internetwork forever, which could happen if there were a routing loop.

Originally, the IP designers also envisioned that the TTL could be a rough 
measurement of time. A router could decrement the TTL by more than one if 
it took more than one second to handle the frame. The router could 
decrement the TTL by the number of seconds it took to work on the frame. 
These days if a router took more than a second to forward a frame, you 
would pull the plug and use it as a boat anchor.

Some protocol analyzers still show the TTL value as hops/seconds. I think 
the Sniffer still does this. It's misleading for two reasons. No routers 
use seconds anymore, and the hops/seconds makes it look like a ratio. Ugh.

One more comment, you were worried about 15,000 milliseconds. Remember 
that's only 15 seconds. So if the TTL were measured in seconds, 255 would 
be much bigger.

By the way, my ping using 3600 seconds on my Albany router (see my previous 
reply) is still sitting there!

Priscilla


At 02:58 AM 4/11/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) wrote:
>Okay, so ICMP doens't specify a TTL on it's own.  Doesn't IP by itself
>have a TTL of 255?
>
>Maybe i'm missing something.
>
>Tim
>
>On 11 Apr 2002 01:26:56 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Joseph
>Ezerski") wrote:
>
> >Ok, according to Stevens (TCP/IP Illustrated Vol 1), the ICMP Ping Packet
> >looks like this:
> >
> >
> >0   1   2   3
> >0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
> >   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> >   | Type  | Code  |  Checksum |
> >   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> >   |  Identifier   |  Sequence Number  |
> >   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> >   |  Optional Data|
> >   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> >
> >The RFC 792, does not specify a time value, other than IP TTL (at that
time,
> >assumed to be in units of seconds).  I think it really depends on how your
> >OS has implemented it.  For example, on my Windows PC, the default timeout
> >is 2000ms.  However, there is an option you can set (-w in the windows
> >world) to extend that timeout.  Stevens mentions something about newer
UNIX
> >implementations (as of the early 90s) timing out after 20 seconds.  My
> >Solaris box times out after 20 s, and it is listed in the man pages as
such.
> >
> >HTH
> >
> >-Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Ouellette, Tim
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:13 PM
> >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >Subject: Ping times? Am i missing something
> >
> >
> >The other day while troubleshooting an issue, I saw some pings from out
> >Tivoli Netview box and it was showing ping times in the 15,000+ ms range.
Is
> >this possible? I though there was a limit on this particular field in the
> >head. If an of our frame-format experts (Priscilla?)  or sniffer gurus
> >(again... Priscilla?), could point me someone I'd appreciate it.  Thanks a
> >bunch!
> >_
> >Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html
> >Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list.


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IPX Internal Address - IPXWAN [7:41207]

2002-04-11 Thread cebuano

Hi,
Can someone point to a URL that points out the reason why a NetWare server's
Internal IPX address must be unique throughout a NetWare domain in spite of
the
fact that it is used only internally, i.e. "locally significant"?
Since this requirement apparently implies that this address is checked for
uniqueness,
what packet would carry this between IPX devices (including routers
configured
for
IPXWAN), SAP / RIP / NCP ?

Thanks.

Elmer




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RE: Change the Bridge ID on a cat5k [7:41206]

2002-04-11 Thread Larson, Chris (Contractor)

oh boy. Not again.

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From: Jaspreet Bhatia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:23 PM
To: Timothy Ouellette
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Change the Bridge ID on a cat5k


Timothy ,
 If the goal is just to change the Bridge ID ,then 
just change the Priority . I don't know any way to change the MAC address 
of the switch . Now, if teh ultimate goal is to stop the switch from 
becoming the root of the Spanning Tree . Then you can use the STP Root 
Gaurd Enhncement feature .
Check this out

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/74.html


Thanks and hope this helps

Jaspreet

At 02:30 AM 4/11/2002 -0400, Timothy Ouellette wrote:
>Scouring cisco for an answer that someone mentioned.
>
>I'm trying to change the Bridge-ID (BID) for a particular vlan on a
>cat5k. I know it's possible if I just change the priorty for that
>particular vlan. Is it possible to change the mac address on a vlan so
>that the BID will change without change the prioty.  Here's the question
>that was posed "how does one change the bridge ID for VLAN 200 on a
>Catalyst 5000 (os is 5.5(10)b"
>
>Can anyone help?
>
>Tim
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Re: Ping times? Am i missing something [7:41144]

2002-04-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 11:11 PM 4/10/02, Ouellette, Tim wrote:
>The other day while troubleshooting an issue, I saw some pings from out
>Tivoli Netview box and it was showing ping times in the 15,000+ ms range. Is
>this possible? I though there was a limit on this particular field in the
>head. If an of our frame-format experts (Priscilla?)  or sniffer gurus
>(again... Priscilla?), could point me someone I'd appreciate it.  Thanks a
>bunch!

What field in the header? There isn't a field that registers time. The ping 
application measures the time between sending the ping and receiving a 
reply. It would indeed be strange for a ping application to wait around for 
15 seconds for a reply. But maybe you can configure Tivoli to do this. 
Cisco lets you use 3600 seconds for a timeout value! (an hour)

Albany#ping
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 10.10.10.10
Repeat count [5]:
Datagram size [100]:
Timeout in seconds [2]: 
% A decimal number between 0 and 3600.
Timeout in seconds [2]: 3600
Extended commands [n]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.10.10.10, timeout is 3600 seconds:

If I'm misunderstanding the question, which is likely, let me know. ;-)

Priscilla


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RE: OT Again: SNMP and TimeWarner Cable [7:41196]

2002-04-11 Thread Roberts, Larry

Any access-lists blocking SNMP except certain locations??? Or an access-list
blocking SNMP from entering the interface??
I assume you have verified connectivity from home to there. It *should* work
as I was able at one time to do SNMP polling on Time Warner.

While Off-topic, what do you think about TW going to a usage based charge in
the Fall ? I called TW to complain and the cust-serv. People didn't even
know about it, but it was all over nwfusion...



Thanks

Larry 

-Original Message-
From: Craig Columbus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT Again: SNMP and TimeWarner Cable [7:41196]


Have any of you tried using SNMP to monitor routers / servers from inside 
the Time Warner Cable Network?  (Put aside the obvious security risks for 
the moment.)

I'm on the Time Warner Cable Network at home and I need to temporarily 
install What's Up Gold at home to monitor a 3640.  For some reason, I can't 
connect.  I thought that maybe it was a config issue on the router (I 
didn't set it up), so I tried connecting to another router where I know 
SNMP is configured properly and was still unable to connect.  I thought 
maybe it was a What'sUp Gold issue, so I tried the connection with 
Solarwinds and was still unable to connect.  Thinking it was a problem with 
my Windows ME desktop, I repeated the same steps with a Windows XP machine 
and still couldn't connect.
I then configured What'sUp on a 2000 machine machine in my NOC (a 
completely separate ISP) to connect to the 3640 and had no problem
connecting. I contacted Time Warner Cable and they swear that they're not
blocking any 
ports at all and that 161 and 162 should get through.  I contacted the ISP 
that serves the 3640 (in case they were blocking the cable network for some 
reason) and supposedly they're not blocking any ports either. Maybe I
haven't had enough sleep lately, but if TW is telling the truth, 
I'm stumped.  Any ideas on this one?

Thanks,
Craig




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Re: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]

2002-04-11 Thread sam sneed

The speed the bits travel should be negligible in comparison with the time
it takes the intermediate(routers, switch,...) and end nodes to
receive/process the signal. So if you're curious for computational purposes
it wouldn;t matter. Electricty in a vacuum travels at light speed. I'm not
sure the effect a copper medium would have. It would probably be less due to
interference and other electromagnetic influeneces.

sam sneed


""Matthew Tayler""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ok I have spent ages trying to find an answer to this question, and
probably
> only added to my confusion. You know how it is you spend ages looking at
> something and become snow blind or get tunnel vision or whatever, but I
> cannot see the answer to the following:
>
> How far does a bit travel in say 1 second or put another way how long does
a
> bit take to travel a certain distance ?
>
> I understand, or think I do that if the line is say 128kbps then I can, in
> theory at least, expect 128,000 (approx) bits start down that line every
> second.
>
> But how long do they take to reach the other end, assuming a point to
point
> link and both ends being the same speed, obviously.
>
> There has to be a nice simple formula for this somewhere, you know the
sort
> of thing x= line speed, y = distance z = time etc
>
> Any ideas or poitners would be appreciated
>
> Thanks




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Xincon Technology CCIE Lab [7:41202]

2002-04-11 Thread Mohsin Hussain

Anyone taken CCIE practice lab at XINCON Technology,  Downtown Toronto. If
you have then would you recommend it?

Mohsin


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Re: CCIE Books [7:41093]

2002-04-11 Thread michael c reilly

Thats funny I didn't even notice that.


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RE: OT Again: SNMP and TimeWarner Cable [7:41196]

2002-04-11 Thread Craig Columbus

Well, yes and no.  Initially I was behind a Linksys firewall that's doing 
PAT.  Supposedly, there's a transparency setting in the Linksys that'll 
allow SNMP traffic through to the designated end device.  Since I made the 
correct settings in the Linksys and I was still having the problem, I 
removed the Linksys completely and went with a public IP on a single 
machine.  This didn't solve the problem either.  I suppose that there's the 
possibility that I'm being natted somewhere along the carrier path, but if 
so, I assume it would show on the trace as either a private address or a 
*.  All I see are publics.

Thanks,
Craig

At 01:04 PM 4/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>As far as I know, SNMP does not work over NAT or PAT. Could you be getting
>NATted or PATted somewhere along the way?
>
>Tim
>CCIE 9015
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Craig Columbus
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:31 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: OT Again: SNMP and TimeWarner Cable [7:41196]
>
>
>Have any of you tried using SNMP to monitor routers / servers from inside
>the Time Warner Cable Network?  (Put aside the obvious security risks for
>the moment.)
>
>I'm on the Time Warner Cable Network at home and I need to temporarily
>install What's Up Gold at home to monitor a 3640.  For some reason, I can't
>connect.  I thought that maybe it was a config issue on the router (I
>didn't set it up), so I tried connecting to another router where I know
>SNMP is configured properly and was still unable to connect.  I thought
>maybe it was a What'sUp Gold issue, so I tried the connection with
>Solarwinds and was still unable to connect.  Thinking it was a problem with
>my Windows ME desktop, I repeated the same steps with a Windows XP machine
>and still couldn't connect.
>I then configured What'sUp on a 2000 machine machine in my NOC (a
>completely separate ISP) to connect to the 3640 and had no problem
>connecting.
>I contacted Time Warner Cable and they swear that they're not blocking any
>ports at all and that 161 and 162 should get through.  I contacted the ISP
>that serves the 3640 (in case they were blocking the cable network for some
>reason) and supposedly they're not blocking any ports either.
>Maybe I haven't had enough sleep lately, but if TW is telling the truth,
>I'm stumped.  Any ideas on this one?
>
>Thanks,
>Craig




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RE: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]

2002-04-11 Thread Jeffrey Reed

In theory, doesn't electricity travel at the speed of light? 186,000 feet
per second, I think.

I once read theory that electricity flows through copper more efficiently
than light flows through fiber, so the electrical bits would arrive first in
a race.

I have both interfaces here in the lab... I'll time it this afternoon...
(just kidding).

Jeffrey Reed
Classic Networking, Inc.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Matthew Tayler
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]

Ok I have spent ages trying to find an answer to this question, and probably
only added to my confusion. You know how it is you spend ages looking at
something and become snow blind or get tunnel vision or whatever, but I
cannot see the answer to the following:

How far does a bit travel in say 1 second or put another way how long does a
bit take to travel a certain distance ?

I understand, or think I do that if the line is say 128kbps then I can, in
theory at least, expect 128,000 (approx) bits start down that line every
second.

But how long do they take to reach the other end, assuming a point to point
link and both ends being the same speed, obviously.

There has to be a nice simple formula for this somewhere, you know the sort
of thing x= line speed, y = distance z = time etc

Any ideas or poitners would be appreciated

Thanks




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Re: How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]

2002-04-11 Thread Wes Knight

In article , 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Ok I have spent ages trying to find an answer to this question, and
probably
> only added to my confusion. You know how it is you spend ages looking at
> something and become snow blind or get tunnel vision or whatever, but I
> cannot see the answer to the following:
> 
> How far does a bit travel in say 1 second or put another way how long does
a
> bit take to travel a certain distance ?
> 
> I understand, or think I do that if the line is say 128kbps then I can, in
> theory at least, expect 128,000 (approx) bits start down that line every
> second.
> 
> But how long do they take to reach the other end, assuming a point to point
> link and both ends being the same speed, obviously.
> 
> There has to be a nice simple formula for this somewhere, you know the sort
> of thing x= line speed, y = distance z = time etc
> 
> Any ideas or poitners would be appreciated
> 
> Thanks
It depends on the medium used. The rough calculation for the propagation 
of an electromagnetic signal in wire is 66% of the speed of light in a 
vacuum. Or 186000 x 2/3 = 124000 miles/sec.

Measurement on Cat5 are very close to this number. Coax is different. 
More on the order of 55% of the speed of light in a vacuum.

If you are very interested in this, check out 
xxx.lanl.gov/abs/physics/0201053
-- 
Wes Knight
MCT, MCSE, CNE, CCNP, ASE, etc.




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OT Again: SNMP and TimeWarner Cable [7:41196]

2002-04-11 Thread Craig Columbus

Have any of you tried using SNMP to monitor routers / servers from inside 
the Time Warner Cable Network?  (Put aside the obvious security risks for 
the moment.)

I'm on the Time Warner Cable Network at home and I need to temporarily 
install What's Up Gold at home to monitor a 3640.  For some reason, I can't 
connect.  I thought that maybe it was a config issue on the router (I 
didn't set it up), so I tried connecting to another router where I know 
SNMP is configured properly and was still unable to connect.  I thought 
maybe it was a What'sUp Gold issue, so I tried the connection with 
Solarwinds and was still unable to connect.  Thinking it was a problem with 
my Windows ME desktop, I repeated the same steps with a Windows XP machine 
and still couldn't connect.
I then configured What'sUp on a 2000 machine machine in my NOC (a 
completely separate ISP) to connect to the 3640 and had no problem
connecting.
I contacted Time Warner Cable and they swear that they're not blocking any 
ports at all and that 161 and 162 should get through.  I contacted the ISP 
that serves the 3640 (in case they were blocking the cable network for some 
reason) and supposedly they're not blocking any ports either.
Maybe I haven't had enough sleep lately, but if TW is telling the truth, 
I'm stumped.  Any ideas on this one?

Thanks,
Craig




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OSPF problem [7:41195]

2002-04-11 Thread STRAND Scott

I had a problem between two OSPF neighbors. Here is what I saw in the log:

OSPF-4_ERRRCV Received invalid packet: BAD Version
OSPF - Mismatch Authentication key - Message Digest Key 1

My question is what is meant by "Bad Version". Anyone seen this.

Tks,
Scott

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Re: Change the Bridge ID on a cat5k [7:41194]

2002-04-11 Thread Jaspreet Bhatia

Timothy ,
 If the goal is just to change the Bridge ID ,then 
just change the Priority . I don't know any way to change the MAC address 
of the switch . Now, if teh ultimate goal is to stop the switch from 
becoming the root of the Spanning Tree . Then you can use the STP Root 
Gaurd Enhncement feature .
Check this out

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/74.html


Thanks and hope this helps

Jaspreet

At 02:30 AM 4/11/2002 -0400, Timothy Ouellette wrote:
>Scouring cisco for an answer that someone mentioned.
>
>I'm trying to change the Bridge-ID (BID) for a particular vlan on a
>cat5k. I know it's possible if I just change the priorty for that
>particular vlan. Is it possible to change the mac address on a vlan so
>that the BID will change without change the prioty.  Here's the question
>that was posed "how does one change the bridge ID for VLAN 200 on a
>Catalyst 5000 (os is 5.5(10)b"
>
>Can anyone help?
>
>Tim
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debug ip packet 136 detail [7:41193]

2002-04-11 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I have have an access-list 136 applied to my outside interface for inbound
traffic.

When I do a "debug ip packet 136 detail" it shows me both incoming and
outgoing traffic.

Why is it showing me outgoing traffic? - That has nothing to do with the
access-list - or???

Thanks,

Ole

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How fast do bits travel ? [7:41192]

2002-04-11 Thread Matthew Tayler

Ok I have spent ages trying to find an answer to this question, and probably
only added to my confusion. You know how it is you spend ages looking at
something and become snow blind or get tunnel vision or whatever, but I
cannot see the answer to the following:

How far does a bit travel in say 1 second or put another way how long does a
bit take to travel a certain distance ?

I understand, or think I do that if the line is say 128kbps then I can, in
theory at least, expect 128,000 (approx) bits start down that line every
second.

But how long do they take to reach the other end, assuming a point to point
link and both ends being the same speed, obviously.

There has to be a nice simple formula for this somewhere, you know the sort
of thing x= line speed, y = distance z = time etc

Any ideas or poitners would be appreciated

Thanks


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RE: configure VPN on PIX which behind PAT router [7:41090]

2002-04-11 Thread Kent Hundley

You could, if the PIX supported NAT transparency for IPSec like the VPN 3000
does.  Unfortunately, this feature is not yet available.  My SE tells me its
on the road map for inclusion sometime this year, but there are no firm
dates yet.

Your other option would be to get rid of the cayman router, but you probably
would need PPPoE support on the PIX for your DSL connection, which according
to the 6.1.3 release notes is also not an option yet. (if you don't need
PPPoE, I'd get rid of the Cayman right now)  Otherwise, you'll have to wait
for PPPoE support in the PIX, which should be in the next major release.

The only option I see for you without using different hardware is to use
PPTP as an interim solution.  You'll need to allow certain ports and
protocols through the Cayman.  Here's a link that shows what you need, it's
for the PIX but you can adapt it for the Cayman:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/pix_pptp.html

Then you'll need to configure the PIX to support PPTP:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/pptppix.html

Keep in mind that PPTP is not as secure as IPSec.  Some of the problems with
PPTP were addressed by MS with MSCHAP-2, but there are still issues.  I
would only use this as a short term solution.  You can read about the
problems with PPTP here:

http://www.counterpane.com/pptpv2-paper.html


HTH,
Kent

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Thanks Mike. You are 100% correct when you describe my limitations. Well, I
am doing something " Mission Impossible".
I have setup the PIX firewall without NAT. It's the Cayman Router who did
the PAT. And I did Pinhole on Cayman router to the mail server which behind
the firewall. Everything works fine, except the VPN, I want to have some
ideas first before I try to configure it.
I know that on Cisco VPN Client, we can configure the IPsec over UDP or TCP.
I wonder if there is additional configuration on the PIX firewall as well to
support the UDP or TCP port 1. Because the VPN connection is always
initialized by the client, if client use the IPSec over UDP or TCP, in
theory I could configure the Cayman router to Pinhole port 1 to PIX ip
address.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Daniel

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> Daniel- I may be clueless to some fancy configuration on PAT, but it is my
> belief from my experience that you can't do what you're trying to do.
>
> Your Limitations are:
> 1. The Cayman Router (It only Does PAT itself, and doesn't have the
ability
> to terminate VPNs- I can only PASS Thru the the IPSEC Traffic.)
> 2. The fact you only have 1 IP address for public use.
>
> From my understanding, with the release of PIX 6.1 code, you can configure
> "Dynamic NAT" on the PIX so that if you only get one IP address
Dynamically,
> you can use the PIX Outside Interface (not the IP itself) as a nat point
> between the Public IP and ONE Host on the inside network; this also
applies
> if you only get one Static IP from your ISP.  You can't use that one IP to
> PAT port 80 to one inside network host and port 25 to a different inside
> network host.  To make this work though, you have to replace the Cayman
DSL
> Router with a regular DSL Modem that you connect the DSL Modem's Ethernet
> Port to the Outside Interface of the PIX- or plug the outside interface
and
> the ethernet interface of the DSL Modem to a "Secure" Hub/Switch, i.e.,
> nothing else plugs into that hub/switch too.
>
> If you want to support NATing to multiple hosts on the Inside Network, you
> are going to have to get more Static IPs assigned to you by the ISP.
>
>
> Now of course, I'f I'm way off base, somebody else will correct me, I'm
sure
> :)
>
> HTHs
> -Mark
> -Original Message-
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> Daniel Ma
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: configure VPN on PIX which behind PAT router [7:41090]
>
>
> I am configuring a PIX firewall behind a Cayman DSL router. The whole
> network only has one public IP address which is on the DSL interface. I
need
> to configure the PIX firewall for the remote VPN clients.
> My solution is to encapsulate all IPSEC traffic with TCP 1, or UDP
> 1, so the Cayman router could be configured Pinhole the port 1 to
> the PIX outside interface. But I could not find documents on how to
> configure it.
> It will be greatly appreciated if anyone could help me out, or probably
you
> have better solutions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Daniel




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RE: ac-path access list [7:40983]

2002-04-11 Thread Kelly Cobean

Yep, you guys are correct.

"^" is the beginning-of-line character, and "$" is the End-of-Line
character.  This means that ^10$ indicates the exact string of
"BOL,AS10,EOL" or an as-path that includes only AS10.  In order for this
regex to be of any use to you, AS10 must be a neighboring AS, otherwise this
would be an impossible condition for a BGP router in your AS to match.

The Regex _10_ translates into "Anything - AS10 - Anything".  This would
include ^10$ as well, so it's kind of like the saying, "A square is a
rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square.

HTH,
Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I
Network Engineer
GRC International, Inc., an AT&T company

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Sounds right to me. If ^ matches the beginning of the AS path and $ matches
the end, then ^10$ refers to routes that originated from AS 10 and have
nothing after AS 10 in their path.

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A. will catch any routes which have ever traversed AS-10

B. will catch only routes which have originated in 10 and have just come
into your AS from AS-10 (meaning you would be directly connected to AS-10.

Does anyone else interperete B differently than this??

Anthony Pace


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> Is there any difference in these two commands?
>
> A.  ip as-path access-list deny _10_
>
> B.  ip as-path access-list deny ^10$
>
> If I understand corerctly, they both deny AS 10, and only 10.
>
> --
>
> RFC 1149 Compliant.
> Get in my head:
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RE: About IOS question [7:41031]

2002-04-11 Thread Brian Zeitz

Isn't PAT and overloading the same thing?

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: About IOS question [7:41031]

I've got an 806 that does this. It overloads the external ethernet
interface
for PAT. It supports the Firewall feature set. And it supports PPPoE.
I'm
currently running 12.2(2)XI1, but I'm not using PPPoE. I have a friend
who
has the same setup but is using PPPoE.

Using the Software Advisor
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/CompNav/Index.pl?Introduction=True
You should be able to find what you are looking for, I used a 2600 as an
example and came up with 12.2(2)T as the first release supporting PPPoE,
Firewall, and NAT.

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> Brian Zeitz
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> Dumb question but, You are talking about a router IOS? Or maybe you
want
> to know if PPPoE works on Pix? I know pix supports it in like 6.2. For
> Routers, of course you have to have the correct interface, and I
believe
> they sell special IOS versions just for ADSL. Any idea on what model
> router? If it's a 12,000 I don't think they have it ;)
>
> Also if you looking to make a firewall with PPPoE, don't plan on using
a
> dynamic IP. I have found in my experience using DHCP on an interface
> with a firewall is like mixing fire and ice. If you have DCHP use a
> normal router with "client side" DCHP, and then use the other
interface
> to bind your packet filters to.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ricky Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: About IOS question [7:41031]
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know which IOS version can support PPPoE + NAT + Firewall
> function. Please let me know.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ricky




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Re: Change the Bridge ID on a cat5k [7:41188]

2002-04-11 Thread Manny Gonzalez

Tisk tisk!! Hehehee, you cheated Tim. hahahaha. See, I have eyes in here too.

Well, the quick answer is NOT POSSIBLE. The long answer is this:

Cisco's Catalyst OS makes a pool of 1024 addresses available to the switch.
The switch will assign
addresses to each VLAN, PORT, etc. sequentially until it is exhausted. THe
SC0 gets the last address
in the first module's range.

This is ALL BURNED IN AND NOT CHANGEABLE EASILY. Or so I have been told ...

Hard answer is that it is doable in ENGINEERING MODE or something. So I am
still digging for this.
It is kind of interesting that Cisco itself has absolutely NO MENTION of the
fact that it is not
easily changeable :-(

I mean on a router you just do:

mac-address 0022.3344.5566

and bam!

:-))

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Timothy Ouellette wrote:
> 
> Scouring cisco for an answer that someone mentioned.
> 
> I'm trying to change the Bridge-ID (BID) for a particular vlan on a
> cat5k. I know it's possible if I just change the priorty for that
> particular vlan. Is it possible to change the mac address on a vlan so
> that the BID will change without change the prioty.  Here's the question
> that was posed "how does one change the bridge ID for VLAN 200 on a
> Catalyst 5000 (os is 5.5(10)b"
> 
> Can anyone help?
> 
> Tim
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win98 pptp vpn connections at only 9.6kbps [7:41187]

2002-04-11 Thread suaveguru

hi all,

anyone got any inputs why connecting to cisco vpn
concentrator 3005 yields only 9.6kbps with a pstn
connection over the internet at 64kbps.While if I were
to connect to win2k vpn server I get the same
connection speed as my pstn provider ,i.e. at 64kbps .

any form of inputs will be greatly appreciated

suaveguru

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RE: About IOS question [7:41031]

2002-04-11 Thread David C Prall

I've got an 806 that does this. It overloads the external ethernet interface
for PAT. It supports the Firewall feature set. And it supports PPPoE. I'm
currently running 12.2(2)XI1, but I'm not using PPPoE. I have a friend who
has the same setup but is using PPPoE.

Using the Software Advisor
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/CompNav/Index.pl?Introduction=True
You should be able to find what you are looking for, I used a 2600 as an
example and came up with 12.2(2)T as the first release supporting PPPoE,
Firewall, and NAT.

David C Prall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com


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> Brian Zeitz
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: About IOS question [7:41031]
>
>
> Dumb question but, You are talking about a router IOS? Or maybe you want
> to know if PPPoE works on Pix? I know pix supports it in like 6.2. For
> Routers, of course you have to have the correct interface, and I believe
> they sell special IOS versions just for ADSL. Any idea on what model
> router? If it's a 12,000 I don't think they have it ;)
>
> Also if you looking to make a firewall with PPPoE, don't plan on using a
> dynamic IP. I have found in my experience using DHCP on an interface
> with a firewall is like mixing fire and ice. If you have DCHP use a
> normal router with "client side" DCHP, and then use the other interface
> to bind your packet filters to.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: About IOS question [7:41031]
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know which IOS version can support PPPoE + NAT + Firewall
> function. Please let me know.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ricky




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RE: About IOS question [7:41031]

2002-04-11 Thread Brian Zeitz

Dumb question but, You are talking about a router IOS? Or maybe you want
to know if PPPoE works on Pix? I know pix supports it in like 6.2. For
Routers, of course you have to have the correct interface, and I believe
they sell special IOS versions just for ADSL. Any idea on what model
router? If it's a 12,000 I don't think they have it ;) 

Also if you looking to make a firewall with PPPoE, don't plan on using a
dynamic IP. I have found in my experience using DHCP on an interface
with a firewall is like mixing fire and ice. If you have DCHP use a
normal router with "client side" DCHP, and then use the other interface
to bind your packet filters to.



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Hi,

Does anyone know which IOS version can support PPPoE + NAT + Firewall
function. Please let me know.

Thanks

Ricky




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RE: Change the Bridge ID on a cat5k [7:41184]

2002-04-11 Thread DAN DORTON

>From what I understand the bridge id is comprised of two things.

A. MAC ADDRESS
B. PRIORITY

Do a show spantree to see what I mean.

Snip>

CAT5K (enable) sh spantree
VLAN 1
Spanning tree enabled
Spanning tree type  ieee

Designated Root XX-XX-XX-XX-XX-XX
Designated Root Priority0
Designated Root Cost3004
Designated Root Port1/1
Root Max Age   20 secHello Time 2  sec   Forward Delay 15 sec

Bridge ID MAC ADDR XX-XX-XX-XX-XX-XX
Bridge ID Priority  49152
Bridge Max Age 20 secHello Time 2  sec   Forward Delay 15 sec

Port Vlan Port-StateCost  Priority Portfast  
Channel_id
  - -  --
--
 1/1 1forwarding 3004   32 disabled   0
 1/2 1blocking   3004   32 disabled   0

Don't know of a way to change the mac address other than swapping the
supervisor module out, but I would think that changing the priority would
meet  the requirements.
 

>>> "Church, Chuck"  04/11/02 08:11AM >>>
Tim,

Change your Supervisor!  From what Manny Gonzalez found out from
numerous Cisco sources, it's almost impossible.  There are some diagnostic
versions of code that support it, but probably not available to most of us.

Chuck Church
Sr. Network Engineer
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Subject: Change the Bridge ID on a cat5k


Scouring cisco for an answer that someone mentioned.  

I'm trying to change the Bridge-ID (BID) for a particular vlan on a
cat5k. I know it's possible if I just change the priorty for that
particular vlan. Is it possible to change the mac address on a vlan so
that the BID will change without change the prioty.  Here's the question
that was posed "how does one change the bridge ID for VLAN 200 on a
Catalyst 5000 (os is 5.5(10)b"

Can anyone help?

Tim
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RE: packet size [7:41079]

2002-04-11 Thread Brian Zeitz

Your right Priscilla :) Yea, your also right about the different layers,
because at layer 3, you could have 0.

I found that 

"802.5 has no min packet size"

"IEEE 802.3 networks have a minimum packet size that depends on the
transmission rate. For type 10BASE5 802.3 networks the minimum packet
size is 64 octets"

"IEEE 802.4 networks have no minimum packet size. IEEE 802.4 networks
have a maximum packet size of 8191 octets including all octets between
the frame control and the FCS inclusive"



http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/1042/10.htm

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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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Subject: RE: packet size [7:41079]

At 06:00 PM 4/10/02, Brian Zeitz wrote:
>Well, maybe the reason why its 64 bytes, is because of CSMA/CD
>parameters call for 64 bytes. Would this make sense?

No, it doesn't really make sense if you think in layers. ;-) And in
fact, 
I'm sure I've seen a smaller IP packet than 64 bytes on Token Ring. What

makes you think the minimum IP packet is 64 bytes? I haven't seen this
in 
RFCs, but maybe you found such a thing.

>  Now what about CRC?
>Is that extra bits, or is CRC part of CSMA/CD.

The CRC is extra bits. It is not related to CSMA/CD, although a frame 
damaged by a collision will have a CRC error.

>I am asking a lot of
>questions today :O
>
>Looking at some of this, I am surpised how little Doyles Vol 1 and 2
>TCP/IP mention this stuff.

It's layering. TCP/IP doesn't care about CSMA/CD. CSMA/CD is handled by
the 
data-link layer.

>Maybe its more for the CCIE outline.

It is indeed.



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>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:18 PM
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>Subject: RE: packet size [7:41079]
>
>The minimum size for an Ethernet frame is 64 bytes. This includes the
>Ethernet header and FCS, but not the preamble or inter-frame gap. The
>minimum Ethernet frame size has to do with the ability of a sender to
>recognize a collision reflecting back from the other side of a
>maximum-sized Ethernet segment, while still sending the frame.
>
>The minimum size for Token Ring is 18 bytes, if I recall. This includes
>the
>header and FCS, but not the starting or ending delimiter or the frame
>status byte.
>
>I didn't know IP had a minimum, although RFC 791 does say that "Every
>internet destination must be able to receive a datagram of 576 octets
>either in one piece or in fragments to be reassembled."
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 04:05 PM 4/10/02, Larry Letterman wrote:
> >64 bytes ...
> >
> >Priscilla is this correct...
> >
> >
> >Larry Letterman
> >Cisco Systems
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> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
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> >Brian Zeitz
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> >Subject: packet size [7:41079]
> >
> >
> >Oops I found the answer, I thought it was over 500, cause I was
looking
> >at IPV6 specs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Minimum Packet Size
> >
> >
> >According to Ethernet specifications, the size of a packet should be
> >between 64 Bytes and 1518 Bytes. Therefore, the minimum packet size
is
> >64 Bytes.
>
>
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RE: packet size [7:41079]

2002-04-11 Thread Brian Zeitz

I found a cheet sheet on cisco's site. Heh.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/encheat.html


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I had always thought that 576 was referring to the minimium value for
the
maximium packet size, due to the predominant layer 2 technologies in use
at
the time. Does anyone know differently?

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From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 
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Subject: RE: packet size [7:41079]



> I didn't know IP had a minimum, although RFC 791 does say that "Every
> internet destination must be able to receive a datagram of 576 octets
> either in one piece or in fragments to be reassembled."




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Re: CCIE Written Reading.. [7:41017]

2002-04-11 Thread Dan Kline

NLI's ISBN is 1-931881-00-6


""Kris Keen""  wrote in message
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> Thankyou all! Anyone have the NLI Study guide ISBN and also the Caslow
> Bridges Routers and Switches ISBN?
>
> Ill purchase the Boson 1,2,3 tomorrow
>
> Thanks all :)
> Onto the written!




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RE: Ethernet [7:40886]

2002-04-11 Thread Ismail Al-Shelh

I have experienced this problem before I remember that time when this
problem occurred I did not have any tools to check if there is broadcast or
not,  basically I was unaware of broadcast availability , what I was doing
as my network was only 20 computers is typing ping with known healthy
Ethernet card and monitor the reply
 Reply from 10.1.9.2: bytes=32 time Hi group ,
>
> we have around 400 computers in the building on the lan .I have one 2610
> router which is our gateway router on the ethernet of the router i am
> recieving huge amount of multicast and crc4 errors . I have one more
> Telendus router which connected with my customer on serial .The problem
> is that on the cutomers link after some time the ms get increase and
> then it chockes the link .What i am guessing is that one or more
> ethernetdevice is malfuntioning problem is  how to find those devices
> which r malfuntioning .PLz help to solve this problem
>
> Thanx
> Kaushslender




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SSH connexions [7:41178]

2002-04-11 Thread BASSOLE Rock

Hello group,


The default SSH port is 22. For security reasons we would like to modify
this port to another value for VTY connexions. How can I modify the default
SSH port for VTY connexions on a Cisco router.

Thank you for any information.

Rock BASSOLE
Til: +33 (0) 1 45 96 22 03




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