Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]
I think that you should wait until it is actually illegal to purchase this equipment and then go on a diatribe. Until then the prospect of solid competition is good for all. Even if it does become illegal in this country you have got a hard row upstream in some Asian countries to get them to comply. Especially if the Chinese gov is involved in the project. This will eventually drive down prices of Cisco equipment either way. So it is a win win. - Original Message - From: Craig Columbus To: Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778] Just thought I'd comment on this Let me issue a disclaimer first: I've never heard of these routers until this thread. I'm only responding to the information presented in these posts. I've been, so far, unable to verify the information presented for myself. If I'm mistaken, and the product isn't a Cisco ripoff, then I apologize. With that said: Am I the only one who finds it troubling that this company has, apparently, copied Cisco's proprietary designs and is selling them as their own? Sure they're cheaper. So is pirated software. Does it make it right to support an operation like this? These guys even ripped off Cisco's product line names. Surely there's some legal recourse for Cisco, at least in the USA. I guess I'm bothered because this group is so anti-NDA violation, anti-software piracy, etcand then when something like this comes out, no one bothers to speak up against it. In fact, people seem excited because they'll be able to put together a cheaper lab to practice for the CCIE lab. Personally, I don't see any difference between this and willingly buying / exchanging pirated software. If I discover that the claims are true, and that this company is only selling reverse-engineered Cisco products, I, for one, will not support them or their equipment. Just my opinion... Craig At 03:10 PM 7/26/2002 +, you wrote: Hi group, Huawei routers were introduced into the local market sometime in the past 2 months in an asian networking exhibition called Communicasia. That's where I met the Huawei distributor whom had volunteered to provide a demo set for me to play with (myself from an international mnc, has current projects to revamp our LAN/WAN structure) and guess what, my boss is requesting me to have a look at their routers ! The day the router came into the office, I noticed that there were no manuals provided. After meddling with the router, I believed that there was no need to request for one in the first place ! There will be no requirements to load the box with IOS, it is IOS (with a bit of differences). The whole thing was CLONED ! I'm not too sure about reversed-engineering but more on how Cisco is going to protect their market dominance. With boxes selling for 30-40% cheaper, I guess lots of ppl will be rushing off to buy it. Guess might as well I pack my bags for China to get a new set of certifications. Ron Tan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49827t=49778 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]
I thought you said that this was a 2514. Don't they just have 10Mb Ethernet ports? Can you have sub-interfaces on a 10Mb port? Are you sure you are not using both ports on the 2514? - Original Message - From: Frank H To: Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: RE: Proper network design? [7:49536] Now I understand. I read a few articles on the Cisco site after searching for the term router on a stick and found a good explanation. Thanks for your help. Frank Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49566t=49536 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proper network design? [7:49536]
I am still lost how can a router with a 10Mb interface act as a Router on a stick? I may be missing something. Could you show us a diagram this is very interesting? How does the router know that there are two different subnets connected if you don't tell it? I think it has something to do with the router looking at the 192 subnets as one network. I bet that wouldn't act as a ROAS if you changed one of the networks to say a 10 subnet. Basically what you are saying in that if you want to route all you have to do is connect different networks to a hub, connect the hub to a single router port and then it will just start routing. I would love to see the output of that one. Are you sure that the router is doing the routing or is another device on the physical segment providing that service. I know that a host configured with the address of 10.10.0.1/16 will be able to ping a host configured as 10.10.0.100/24. I believe that something similar is going on here. Some debugs and configs would be great cause you learn something new everyday. - Original Message - From: Frank H To: Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:43 PM Subject: Re: Proper network design? [7:49536] Yes, I am using a 2514. It does have 2 10BaseT interfaces (through AUI adapters). I am not using subinterfaces. Both ports are used - one port goes to the Internet (for hosts that require Internet access) and the other connects directly to the 24 port hub which resides within the internal LAN. This internal LAN (network 192.168.0.0/24) can also communicate with network 192.168.2.0/24 (also connected on the hub) because the 2514 routes 192.168.2.0/24 traffic back to a cellular network host controller (192.168.0.100/24). The 2514 is acting as a regular router for Internet traffic and a router on a stick for 192.168.2.0/24 traffic. It was strange for me at first, but now I get the picture. Frank Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49585t=49536 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about OSI [7:9811]
Good Luck next week let us know how you did. You will be fine. I have found a few objectional questions from cert-zone, but they are quick to accept input and make corrections to their material where necessary or expand on why and what the thinking was behind the question. They are a dedicated group of people. You should post the question to the main [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, there are many contributers to cert-zone that regularly read the board. You can probably get the author or one of their technical reviewers to clarify the issue for you on that board. I am going to copy those groups in this response so that everyone can benefit, being that those are widely published questions in these parts. Don - Original Message - From: Marcial Rosales Garcia To: 'Donald B Johnson Jr' Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 4:32 AM Subject: RE: Question about OSI [1:9811] Hi Donald, I have been for a while because I had to leave my studying for 5-6 months. Because I am not looking just a degree or cert, because I already hold 5 years degree, I am not in a hurry to obtain the CCNA. I want to be very confident and skilled to be a real CCNA and then pass the exam. I am planning to take the exam next week, although I feel confident with many areas, sometimes I find answers to questions that screw me up. Sometimes they are questions from cisco sources, that are contridictory with the documentation or sometimes cannot see clearly that the answer is correct. The question I have posted comes from CertificationZone, most of the questions (free, because I don't pay money for questions) are correct and looks quite interesting, however, with this one I disagreed. What I understood about dumb is that you meant the question was silly or stupid, or so simple that there wan't any need to ask it. That's why I responsed I don't see (the question) so dumb. I think that certification is not any race, I think is a reward to your effort along your career. I studied pretty hard to get the JAva Certification (6 months + prof. experience), I got 91% (minimum is 54%); however, I know people who just studied 1 months (without experience) (they wanted to get at least a degree that says: I can program in java) and got 55%. Without studying, just making some mock exams you get that average, so how knowledge has this guy about java? Thank you for your response, Donald. I wish we talk in other moment. Best regards Marcial Rosales -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 June 2002 21:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Marcial Rosales Garcia Subject: Re: Question about OSI [1:9811] Marcial I don't understand the statement I don't see so dumb please clarify. You are correct hops are routers. What I meant was the question is dumb because it is worded very poorly and in my opinion the answer they are stating trsansport is incorrect. You made the statement I found a question, that is dubious at best. You should cite the source of the question when posting. You can run across an endless supply of hot-shots posting QA on the internet. Remember the question and information are only as good as the source. What I am saying is be careful, check sources, and cross reference information. You would have a hard time finding another resource talking about hop-by-hop communication at the transport layer. Also my substance reasoning is; Scenario: You are down to the last ? on your CCNA test. get it right and you pass, get it wrong and you fail. I would not want to hang my hat on that info, if the question was based around the concept of hops. By the way you have been on this group for awhile; Have you taken the test? When will you take the test? Are you a CCNA? Don I don't see so dumb, that's why I ask. I think that the devices which enable hop-by-hop communications are the router (network layer) and not the transport. Or maybe I am misunderstanding the question. I am serious, I am not joking. -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 June 2002 18:26 To: Marcial Rosales Garcia; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question about OSI [1:9811] That is a really dumb question. Thank You, Donald B Johnson Jr Adelphia Telecommunications Corp. Engineering/Technical Operations Corporate Manager Technical Support Services CCNP CCDP MCSE + I P# 888-277-6872 support line Pg# 866-690-9276 pager P# 814-260-3259 office F# 814-260-3227 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Marcial Rosales Garcia To: Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:37 PM Subject: Question about OSI [1:9811] Hi all, I have found the following question which answer is not the one I had expected: Network. To enable hop-by-hop communications across an internetwork, you would need to install a device operating at which layer? a) Transport b
Re: DHCP question [7:47477]
I believe the DHCP server reads the giaddr field which contains the relay agents ip address. The server logicaly assumes that the host should be on the same subnet as this address and fulfills the request from a matching scope. Here is a link to the rfc ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1541.txt don - Original Message - From: Kevin Banifaz To: Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: Re: DHCP question [7:47477] Yes it will be. Setup a super scope then the two remote site scopes. From: dj Reply-To: dj To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DHCP question [7:47477] Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:39:31 -0400 Let's assume a Win2k DHCP server is set up correctly with different IP scopes for 2 remote sites. Let's also assume remote-site routers are set-up correctly with the correct IP helper-address. When remote DHCP clients start broadcasting for IP addresses at each remote site, and these broadcasts are then forwarded by the remote-site routers as unicast packets to the DHCP server, how does the DHCP server know from which scope of IP address to full-fill a DHCP client request for a given remote site. Is the information embbeded within the DHCP packet itself? thanks dj _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47554t=47477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benchmark CCIE [7:47320]
Just sub public for customer in the link. Then you should be in. Don Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47398t=47320 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]
I would add a mismatch encap to that list. HDLC on one side and PPP on the other with show up/down. Don - Original Message - From: Tim Potier To: Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 10:15 AM Subject: Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101] I have found a good bit of conflicting information on the causes of down/down and up/down. All agree that down/down can be caused by: 1. no cable connection 2. CSU/DSU powered down Some other reasons, although not consistently referenced in the literature are: 1. Faulty cable (may also cause up/down) 2. csu/dsu failure (not specify hardware or software)(may also cause up/down) 3. router serial int hardware problem 4. a DCE router interface will be down/down if DTR is not raised by the DTE device There are a plethora of reasons for up/down Not sure this clarifies, but hope it helps some Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47137t=47101 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP Routing Examples Book (For CCIE LAB) [7:22008]
Dahhh Pass the Lab - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:19 PM Subject: Re: IP Routing Examples Book (For CCIE LAB) [7:22008] wow...no, because a book of that content would probably violate the Non-Disclosure Agreement with Cisco. However, there are some very good preparation books available - check out http://www.groupstudy.com/bookstore/index.html Actually, I take that back... there's an entire website devoted to just those configuration scenarios... it's at www.cisco.com in the IOS Documentation and TAC Technology and Sample Configuration pages. The question is, which of the configs does one remember for the Lab exam? (because there are quite a few of them) What's your objective...to learn the technology, or just pass the Lab Exam? -e- who hasn't figured out his true objective in life yet other than survival - Original Message - From: Ashraf Wagih To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:48 PM Subject: IP Routing Examples Book (For CCIE LAB) [7:22008] Hi Everyone, does any body know good books that gives only configuration examples on all topics that are covered in the CCIE LAB exams (configuration scenarios like the ones that found in the CCIE LAB exams, no/few theoritical view) Regards Ashraf Syatems Engineer CCNP Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22211t=22008 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smartforce training [7:21933]
Don't do it jenn - Original Message - From: Jennifer Cribbs To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:11 PM Subject: RE: smartforce training [7:21933] I received a phone call today from a woman named Sondra Smith who is one of their reps. She said I have dropped my name on their site. The website url is http://www.vip.smartcertify.com . Tfhe phone # she gave me is 1-800-653-4933 ext 1264. It is expensive but they have a plan that can be financed through SallyMae Loans which is sort of like a student college loan that can be repayable after you finish classes and after they place you in a job. They have 24hr support for their classes through the format of chat rooms' that are run by certified instructors that are certified in whatever cert you are currently pursuing, so you get instant replies to questions you might have through the course as you proceed forward. They send out cd's of the materials pertaining to the certs the person wants to achieve and they have job placement in whatever area you live in or where ever you choose to work. That is all I know at this point. I talked to this woman for about 1hr on the phone. It is a forced learning method, which I think is good. You can only advance through the course with satisfactory completion of each subject. You can't skip ahead is what I think this means. She called it force learning. There would be one price for the ccnp series of classes. You would receive the material for all four tests at one time. The same for the mcse and the ccna and the a+. She said they also have oracle and some other stuff which I wasn't really interested in. If you click on the link I gave you, it opens up a box wanting the sales rep name. Just type in sondra's name and then you can browse a little on their site. I sure there is more to this, but like I said, this is all I know at this point. It nearly sounded too good to be true and you know what they say about that. I was just hoping someone had some personal knowledge of this and could tell me something also. If I do proceed with this, I will let you know what I think after I have personal experience of it. It also is endorsed by cisco and microsoft.or at least she said so. I just finished putting my computer back together so I can browse back to the site now and read a little. It was maintenance day[preparing for a+] Jenn 10/3/2001 2:44:18 PM, Stull, Cory wrote: never heard of it, could you give me some more detail so I can check it out also? thanks Cory -Original Message- From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: smartforce training [7:21933] Hello, I would like some feedback on smartforce training. Is anyone familiar with this? I am thinking about purchasing this curriculum and want to know if it is a waste of money or if it is something truely beneficial in obtaining your certification? Thanks, Jenn Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22082t=21933 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does CCIE written still have lots of Cisco command [7:22086]
See I knew eventually you'd all see things my way. Don :) Now Back to the free consulting. - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:03 AM Subject: Re: Does CCIE written still have lots of Cisco command [7:22019] I'll break the NDA --- nah, don't bother studying the Cisco commands for the CCIE written...you won't need them.. I promise. (my middle name is Joe Isuzu) geez I'm cruel tonight, wonder if it has anything to do with me running out of gas on the freeway for the first time in 20 years? -e- who never met an IOS command he didn't like (except for debug ipx packet) - Original Message - From: Brad Ellis To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 10:58 PM Subject: Re: Does CCIE written still have lots of Cisco command [7:21999] Sean, I usually dont answer these types of questions nor post sarcasm on this newsgroup. However, I am going to make an exception for you. a) Anyone actually answering your question would be breaking the NDA b) If you're taking the CCIE RS written and you dont know Cisco commands, you're in trouble c) Go read Caslow and Halabi, that would be a really good start for you d) Visit: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html e) I heard they are removing the Cisco commands and replacing them with Lucent Definity PBX commands -Brad Sean Wu wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... just wonder, I think it might be testing more on theory instead of detailed command. Any ideas? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22086t=22086 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TCP TURN? [7:22083]
Next time somebody uses that term why don't you ask them what they mean. And if they give you a everybody knows don't you answer, ask them what RFC that is. - Original Message - From: Ouellette, Tim To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: TCP TURN? [7:22083] Does anyone know what a TCP Turn is? I've heard this mentioned on a couple of conference calls i've been on lately and I can't seem to find out much information on it. Not sure if maybe it's a non-technical term used for a syn-ack type deal or what. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks a bunch! Tim Timothy Ouellette, Infrastructure Analyst MCSE, CCSE, CCNP/DP EDS - New Business Implementation 1075 W. Entrance Drive Auburn Hills, MI 48236 ( 01-248-754-7535 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pager 888-351-4584 www.eds.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22098t=22083 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]
Yeah an MCSE on every corner and 1000 Windows boxes in the building behind. I was talking to some buddies in the last big market I worked in (I live in a poh-dunk town now) and people with current Microsoft skills are very much in demand. The infrastructure guys are hurting, remember when the market went down it was the infrastructure, Internet, and Provider companies that nose-dived, the mom-an-pops with 200-500Workstations, 10 servers, a couple switches, an access router and a real non-internet related business are still going strong. They need user connectivity, (not MPLS, OC-12 or the like) they need database access, email, and system management product specialists. I think we all got caught in the Microsoft is OK but the really cool stuff is Cisco, but then we found out that buying pickles and everything else on the net wasn't flying. Yo I heard Novell is doing some really cool stuff. Reminds me of a movie where the handsome Earl Flynn was made to walk the plank by the ugly green-toothed pirates. MCSE + I - till they rip the 4.0 out of my hand. CNE 4.11 - already stripped CCN/DP - current CCIE 6/8/02 - first attempt Don - Original Message - From: ; To: ; ; Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:45 PM Subject: Fwd: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] On a whim I took the CCIE written this past Saturday. Didn't pass but I do believe the exam is far to easy. YES, to easy!! I came up a couple answers short but really put no effort into preparing for the exam!! When I lost my job last year due to downsizing I weighed my options; MCSE or CCIE...finished CCNP on April 30th so I guess that tells you my choice... HOWEVER, after getting the CCNP I began doing some job hunting, EVERY potential employer wanted MCSE/MCP and didn't care one way or the other about Cisco certs. I'm 48 yrs. old and really didn't care much about the MCSE because of the perceptions you stated (an MCSE on every corner), however I read several Microsoft books this summer (NT, W2K Pro, Exchange 5.5 2000) but haven't attempted any exams. Anyway back to CCIE, aside from the CCNP studies, which I finished in the spring, I read mostly from the Cisco CD (Internetworking Technology Overview, Case Studies, Design etc) and Lou's Token Ring paper (Thank You Dennis for the TR quizzes) but DID NOT read any of the popular books i.e. Halibi, Caslow, Doyle endorsed here. I didn't read them for a reason and that was to see if I could pass WITHOUT their input and if I hadn't scr*^ewed up a couple security questions I would have passed AND THEN I would really have been PISSEDhaving a qualification to THE LAB and basically only theoretical knowledge base. I chose the CCIE route BECAUSE it was supposed to be the crown jewel of networking!!! my .02 worth Rick In a message dated 10/1/01 12:50:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with what you are saying, however there is a difference between having to work hard for something, and having it so that there are only 6000 of them in the world... The MCSE has lost respect within the IT industry, however if you want a serious admin job, it is the most sought after certification. The CCIE will always be a well respected certification. The fact that so few people have it is in some ways harmful because human resources departments and managers outside the tech industry haven't always heard of it. I have seen people get interviews for high level network engineering positions that were CCNAs before CCIEs got the interview. This is because HR has heard of the CCNA and doesn't know what a CCIE is... I'm not saying they should water down the test, nor do I believe they are doing so. However, I do believe that more is better to a certain degree. 6000 to 7000 CCIEs in the world is silly. There can very easily be 10 times that and the demand for certified, well trained engineers will still be there ;-) Just my opinion. Regards, -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [3:3485] I disagree. I'm working towards the CCIE, and I want it to be hard. I want to have to work for it. The last CCNP exam I took was the Support/Troubleshooting exam, and I wanted my money back. The couple of hours I put into studying for it were nothing but wasted time. In any line of work, supply and demand rule the market. The more IE's there are out there, the less they'll be making. Not only that, but we lowly CCNP's and CCDP's can probably expect even less. You point out that there are way more doctors, lawyers, etc... well, there's more of a demand for doctors and lawyers. It's a simple comparison: ask yourself how many people in a given population get sick or decide to sue someone, and compare that to the number of people who need a
Re: Way OT: Interesting Date today [7:21675]
HEY jUAN I think that tin-foil is really receiving something. - Original Message - From: Juan Blanco To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:31 AM Subject: RE: Way OT: Interesting Date today [7:21675] John, When you said It's a palindrone! are you refering at the following: A Palindrome is a word spelled the same backwards and forwards If not please can you give more details for those who do not know what are you refering toand why it is so importantand how did you find out about those date Thanks, JB -Original Message- From: John Neiberger To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/2/2001 10:03 AM Subject: Way OT: Interesting Date today [7:21675] 10-02-2001... It's a palindrome! When was the last date where this occurred? Here at work we think it was 08-31-1380. When will the next one be? :-) Sorry for the OT post, I just thought this was amusing. Back to the morning coffee John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=21703t=21675 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP implementation project - help needed !!!!! [7:21702]
Sorry there are only Demi-Gods here. If you want links to the real gods try [EMAIL PROTECTED] My deepest heartfelt apology to the rest who suffer-through these, but this is a classic one for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know we are all gonna learn some real world BGP multihoming here, so let's proceed. Don - Original Message - From: mailsecurite To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:26 AM Subject: BGP implementation project - help needed ! [7:21702] Hello, My boss ask me to conduct a BGP implementation for our site (Internet ecommerce platform with 2 ISP). I'm relatively new on that topic, so could you please help me to : 1 - construct my project plan and 2 - to made a draft of the technical implementation (I've got a lab). Experiences and god links are welcome. regards, steve. __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=21709t=21702 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written: autocommand [7:21721]
Yo that has been happening to me for about six years, thanks for the fix Mike. - Original Message - From: Michael Snyder To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:01 PM Subject: Re: CCIE Written: autocommand [7:21721] autocommand option no-hangup Will fix your problem. Not all ios's have this option. Lists Wizard wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Dear Professionals, I have tried to configure my router with autocommand as shown below. When I telnet to the router it prompt me for a password, when I enter the password the telnet connection will disconnect immediately. Have I done any mistake? What is the purpose of this command? Thanks r1-2516(config)#line vty 0 4 r1-2516(config-line)#autocommand show running-config r1-2516(config-line)# Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=21737t=21721 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beachfront Quizzers free lab POD? [7:20353]
Yeah i e-mailed them for the IP address. They sent me a conformation letter but they forgot to send the address also. Anyone else that may be in this boat; 65.207.9.10 should get you there, can't verify this though cause my time has not yet come, but it does bring up a login prompt.. Don - Original Message - From: jap_e To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:38 PM Subject: Beachfront Quizzers free lab POD? [7:20353] I had booked a free lab POD at the www.bfq.com as suggested by somebody on this list, and when it was my time, i realised that i have no clue how to access the POD! No ip address for telnet, no information given on their site except the wiring diagram. I spend most of my first 2 hours searching for a way to telnet into their routers, and gave up in the end. Tell me, how did you (if you have tried the free lab) acccess any of the routers? Thanks for your feedback. Regards, Eve Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=20386t=20353 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19935]
And if you say they are not gutless why don't you tell us where and when you will be, and we will see if Bush can round some dudes up and meet you there. Now that would show courage. Duck - Original Message - From: MADMAN To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:54 AM Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19820] A non-American wrote: Gutless ? What cause would you train months for with a guarantee of death or life imprisonment ? The facts as I see them are - A. the victims were blameless and deserved nothing of what they received. My heart goes out especially to the rescue crews, imagine dying trying to help! B. the organisation and commitment was amazing, in a nuclear world retaliation must be very precise and fully calculated rather than knee-jerk. Do not underestimate these people, it would be very dumb indeed to assume that they are less intelligent than yourselves. Don't think anyone rational is assuming these people are dumb. C. many reading this will not like this but the actions of the US government for decades has been in the interest of the US and much blood has been spilt by them and 3rd parties funded by them. Is the hatred you feel for your attackers of your people less valid than theirs ? What attack against these people would you find unacceptable ? The gloves are off - no ? Somebody else out there feels this against your country. The US must try and find these people to make them answer for this but must also look inwards at the same time!! priority is to stop it happening again no ? Look at the tit for tat mess Israel is in... Yes and the UK or wherever your from only has an interest in France, Germany, Ireland etc..., ya right you self rightous European can you say WWI, WWII, Crusades, etc... I'm English and for a long time American money has paid for bullets and semtex used in my country - children are dead as are many policemen not to mention the civilians popped off because they have the wrong religion. The level of ignorance in the US is truly amazing, everybody outside the US is disgusted by this act but not many are asking why, we've got a pretty good idea. Word of advice - we get CNN too and it's biased as hell, listen to the news from somewhere ANYWHERE else once in a while. I agree that CNN, Clinton News Network is biased to the liberal left and of coarse the news is aimed at Americans so I suppose it's not tailored to UK audiences, what's your point?? You can pick ANY country and find faults, we are, after all, made up of imperfect people but we are the model for freedom throughout the world and therefore a big target also. AN AMERICAN who is not AFRAID to use his name Dave A non-American -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fenech, William J Sent: 13 September 2001 01:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19699] Don't waste your time with idiots like this (aka Reeta Sinha). The people who pulled off this gutless act, and the ones who support them should be exterminated, pure and simple. -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=19935t=19935 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. [7:19938]
I think we should take it a step further. I think we should stop giving out free consulting services we don't know who we could be aiding and abeting. Some of these names with the broken english surely show this may be the case. Someone yesterday was asking about webphones and it was from a domain with IRAN in its name. This may make sense in a few days when our boys and girls are in the field. Remember loose lips sink ships. - Original Message - From: Thad Gaston To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:29 PM Subject: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's [7:19833] All and Paul As a muslim I would greatly appreciate that any further insults to the religion of Islam be refrained from this list. And as I have requested along with Priscilla, that this thread and topic discontinue as it both distracting and upsetting. Best Regards -Original Message- From: hal9001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19819] Don't you mean the CULT of ALLAH..any so called religion that encourages this mayhem is a one way ticket to hell. Its nothing more than an evil cult! Karl - Original Message - From: John Mairs To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19726] aaammen! Allah be paved! --- ed smith wrote: Respectfully I would say,,, let people blow some steam off! Who the hell cares about CISCO right now? Ed From: Thad Gaston To: ed smith , Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679] Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:59:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [12.109.97.147] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBD69252000344136E8170C6D619313EB0; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:56:49 -0700 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:57:36 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679] Thread-Index: AcE71YI1yqc/7joNR3ugD6ApyYlA6wAAC/Bg All, I would discourage any further post regarding this topic as it becoming more and more useless and distracting. None of our sentiments are going to bring back the lives of those that have passed on nor bring about the justice the we all would like to see. Let's keep the list on track and get back to what this list is intended for. Regards, Thad Gaston -Original Message- From: ed smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679] That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! The people we see dancing in the streets of Palestine are brainwashed! The common person in the middle east would give anything to come and live in the U.S. and get out of their hell hole they call home. Believe me, I did 2 years there, it sucks!!! Nothing worth keeping in that part of the World. I don't see all those God forsaken countries having a problem with people wanting to immigrate there! If they believe they are God's chosen people, why didn't he make them from Hawaii, or Switzerland, or some other nice part of this World? They don't have the open airways or free flow of information to make logical decisions. They only believe what their ignorant and jealous leaders tell them. They wanted a Holy War I think they have it,, Holy @!#$ Ahkmed, here comes a Tomahawk missile! Holy @!#$ Al-@!#$, here comes a flights of F-15's!!! Holy @!#$ Al-Khobar, I think I'm going to see Allah! Wait and see brings new meaning to bombs bursting in air. YOU SEEM TWISTED, according to your last email anyway. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] = John L. Mairs __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=19938t=19938 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:
Re: Anyone feel like uploading us IOS 12.1 or 12.2 [7:19540]
Yeah I offered to help him retrieve the file from the crashed server haven't heard back. Imagine that. - Original Message - From: ; To: ; Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:31 PM Subject: Re: Anyone feel like uploading us IOS 12.1 or 12.2 [7:19540] In the middle of studying the back up and restore methods thought in the sybex CCNA book my server unfortunetly crashed taking with it my IOS for the 2501 router. I remember it having 12.1 IOS. If anyone has 12.1 or 12.2 IOS and would be kind to upload it to me I would most greatly appreciate it. thank you all. Nice Try! No freebies, fuckhead!!! Get a Smartnet contract! Rob H, NP, DP, blah,blah,blah Return-Path: Received: from rly-xc04.mx.aol.com (rly-xc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.137]) by air-xc02.mail.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINXC24-0912004834; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:48:34 -0400 Received: from groupstudy.com (www.groupstudy.com [63.104.50.75]) by rly-xc04.mx.aol.com (v80.21) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXC43-0912004812; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:48:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA27547; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:02:54 -0400 Received: by groupstudy.com (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:49:00 -0400 Received: (from listserver@localhost) by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA25513 GroupStudy Mailer; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:48:59 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA25506 GroupStudy Mailer; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:48:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:48:59 -0400 Message-Id: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-GroupStudy-Version: 3.1.1a X-GroupStudy: Network Technical To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone feel like uploading us IOS 12.1 or 12.2? [7:19540] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=19939t=19540 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19832]
Hey moron if we're so bad why don't you boycott us. That is right you can't. Oh I get it you'll use all our products and services but our guns and bullets killed your kids and cops. Na it was your enlightened citizens that did that. I think you got it backwards we listen to every piss-ant toothless nation (yours included). That is gonna change I think Bush and our congress made it clear either you are with us or against us. My advice send them out or we're coming in. Oh and I am sorry I called you a moron your English your a twit. Don - Original Message - From: A non-American To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19805] Gutless ? What cause would you train months for with a guarantee of death or life imprisonment ? The facts as I see them are - A. the victims were blameless and deserved nothing of what they received. My heart goes out especially to the rescue crews, imagine dying trying to help! B. the organisation and commitment was amazing, in a nuclear world retaliation must be very precise and fully calculated rather than knee-jerk. Do not underestimate these people, it would be very dumb indeed to assume that they are less intelligent than yourselves. C. many reading this will not like this but the actions of the US government for decades has been in the interest of the US and much blood has been spilt by them and 3rd parties funded by them. Is the hatred you feel for your attackers of your people less valid than theirs ? What attack against these people would you find unacceptable ? The gloves are off - no ? Somebody else out there feels this against your country. The US must try and find these people to make them answer for this but must also look inwards at the same time!! priority is to stop it happening again no ? Look at the tit for tat mess Israel is in... I'm English and for a long time American money has paid for bullets and semtex used in my country - children are dead as are many policemen not to mention the civilians popped off because they have the wrong religion. The level of ignorance in the US is truly amazing, everybody outside the US is disgusted by this act but not many are asking why, we've got a pretty good idea. Word of advice - we get CNN too and it's biased as hell, listen to the news from somewhere ANYWHERE else once in a while. A non-American -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fenech, William J Sent: 13 September 2001 01:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19699] Don't waste your time with idiots like this (aka Reeta Sinha). The people who pulled off this gutless act, and the ones who support them should be exterminated, pure and simple. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=19832t=19832 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone feel like uploading us IOS 12.1 or 12.2? [7:19540]
Guess you learned a great lesson in backup and recovery. Let me clue you in on a secret. There are countless ways of getting that data off the hard drive of your server. You should look into that. What kind of server was it. I'll help you get your data back. Don - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:48 PM Subject: Anyone feel like uploading us IOS 12.1 or 12.2? [7:19540] In the middle of studying the back up and restore methods thought in the sybex CCNA book my server unfortunetly crashed taking with it my IOS for the 2501 router. I remember it having 12.1 IOS. If anyone has 12.1 or 12.2 IOS and would be kind to upload it to me I would most greatly appreciate it. thank you all. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=19569t=19540 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843]
Yeah - Original Message - From: Leigh Anne Chisholm To: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:59 PM Subject: RE: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843] Actually, it's likely the lawyer fresh out of lawschool will do a better job than the cratchety old lawyer that's had a few years to become jaded by the system or to get an over-inflated view of themselves. The new kid on the block has something to prove so he'll go that extra mile to do a superb job. Did I mention I used to head up an IT division at a major Canadian law firm? (-: My point is... experience doesn't always matter. Brilliance and the willingness to do a good job can compensate quite well for experience. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843] hey, Brad, aren't you the guy who was complaining on the other list about what the one day lab would end up doing? ;- may I point out that the CPA or the State Bar, or the real estate broker's exam, for that matter, are very difficult, and only a small percentage of takers pass first time through. So who do you want doing your taxes - the guy fresh out of accounting school, or the guy with a few years experience? How about if you find yourself in court for one reason or another? Want that lawyer fresh out of law school who happened to pass the bar first try through? Hey - he's smart enough! Isn't he? and for those wondering, I deliberately avoided using real estate broker examples because the house its up for sale, and I don't care about credentials, just as long as I get my price. Any CCIE's out there want to come live in California? Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Ellis Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843] Chuck, Hi! Don't get me wrong, Im not saying CCIE's sh*t don't stink!!! I know a few CCIEs that I would let touch my network. However, I consider that the EXCEPTION and not the RULE. As a general rule of thumb, I consider the CCIE level of knowledge and applicable skills to be higher than minimal competence. I suppose it really depends on your definition of minimal competence. I define minimal competence as someone who has a fundamental understanding of networking with a small amount of hands-on experience. I would generally classify a CCIE to have a more in-depth understanding of networking fundamentals and quite a bit more hands-on experience than someone with minimal competence. Mr. Seltzer's writing says that the average CCIE is minimally competent in the product (I'd guess he was referring to Cisco). I think that's like saying NBA basketball players are minimally competent basketball players. To Michael Jordan that's probably true, but Im sure the general public would disagree. I suppose it really comes down to your definition of minimal competence. I have a great deal of respect for the majority of other CCIE's who I have come in contact with and consider calling them minimally competent to be an insult. -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 Chuck Larrieu wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... like everything else in this business, the answer is it depends. sorry folks, but CCIE's are not gods who walk among us. I personally know several CCIE's who are top notch and deserving of every dollar they get and every contract they land. I also personally know a couple who couldn't tell you how a packet gets from one interface to another in a router. all the CCIE certification proves is that you have passed Cisco's lab test. It does not prove one way or another whether you know jack about networking. I suggest that there is a percentage of the 2000 or so who have attained the cert since last year who did so only because they successfully memorized enough scenario configurations that they were able to luck their way through when their lab closely resembled one of those scenarios they memorized. I personally know several folks who passed over the last 18 months whose only hands on experience was in their practice labs. Of these, all were pretty sharp dudes, by the way. From personal experience I can tell you that I saw absolutely nothing in my lab that made me wish I'd spent more time reading RFC's, or Comer, or any of the other great books of the networking world. I saw plenty that made me wish I'd spent more time on certain practice materials readily available ( I refer to the commercially available products. please do not contact me for names and sources ) whenever this topic comes up, I see
Re: Boson test sofware [7:18765]
Call and ask for Chad Altman he will hook you up. - Original Message - From: Hoa Ngo To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Boson test sofware [7:18765] I bought 2 CCIE written tests 1 and 2. After upgrading, they are gone. I email them, but no response. Howard From: Jason Reply-To: Jason To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Boson test sofware [7:18765] Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 02:59:41 -0400 Get it from www.boson.com . The registration would work for the new versions as well unless you .. In which case, you probably should be not be asking here.. Omer Ehsan Dar wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... hi all can anybody send me boson test version 3.5 or 3.6 plz I lost mine and I have to install the old tests again. Thanks Omer _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=19271t=18765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time factor taking the CCIE Written [7:19180]
I did that for all my RIF questions where you had to do the canonical-noncanonical thing. This saved a lot of time cause they needed some figuring. When I went through the whole test I felt very confident that I had passed even without answering those questions. So instead of hurting my brain doing the binary and applying the rules to the situation I guessed the answers. Real nice feature Huh! 84 for the win. I guess the world will never know if I can do a conversion, but I don't think the world will ever ask. Don - Original Message - From: Tom Keough To: Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: Re: Time factor taking the CCIE Written [7:19180] Thanks for all your comments and email!! I'll let you know tomorrow about marking and returning to the answers... This will be my 14th certification exam and I have not had one yet that I could go back and change my answers. It will be great if I can on the written. Tomorrow, Tom Tom Keough, CCNP MCSE Tom Keough wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Please, anyone who has taken the written. I am scheduled to take it tomorrow and I feel pretty well prepared. My question is about the time factor. Did you feel a time crunch during the exam or is time not a factor? For me time was not a factor on the CCNP exams. TIA, Tom Tom Keough, CCNP MCSE Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=19278t=19180 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304]
It took six business and eight regular days for mine to show up. Took mine on Wed showed up the next Thurs. You can call prometric/vue on Wed and see if they have your score in their database, then it is off to cisco. Still scheduling two-dayers. - Original Message - From: Tom Keough To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304] Thanks to all who responded to my question regarding time pressure and the written... I passed with a score of 85%!!! What a relief. When I got home with my registration number in hand I went to the Cisco web site and tried to register for the lab. Too soon, the error message says it will take 3 to 5 days for my results to make it to the registration database...;-( I want to see if I have a choice of a one day or two day lab date, anyone know? BTW I could go back to review my answers! I marked six that I guessed at and at the end of the exam I still didn't know them, not much help for me. Thanks again, Tom Tom Keough, CCNP, MCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=19320t=19304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]
If that were true someone would go on a shooting rampage. I'll bet that if you let your cert lapse and then recert at a later time you probably get your old number back. Just a hunch, someone know better. Don - Original Message - From: Wright, Jeremy To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296] My question is, what happens if a CCIE loses his number do to not recertifying? For example, if CCIE# 4000 doesn't recertify, is that number eligible for new CCIE's since it is now open. So if I get my CCIE tomorrow and 4000 didn't recert, is his number available to me? -Original Message- From: Glenn Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296] While I agree that such an arbitrary distinction has the potential to be abused, this person is likely looking (hoping) for some heightened level of assurance that candidates will have many, many years of experience. I don't know enough CCIEs to comment on the validity of such an assumption regarding the correlation/magnitude of relevant experience with a given CCIE number. However, my guess is that simply by virtue of having such a low number that quite a few of the early CCIEs are now firmly entrenched in the upper ranks of management (and thus possibly, but not necessarily, out of touch with current technology in the field) -- but that assumption could be quite flawed. Worst case scenario -- give the recruiter your number in HEX, maybe they will be unable to convert it properly :-) (just kidding of course) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296] I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my attention. dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser) This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a number range for a CCIE job!!! My question aloud is this - With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the less value to the customer/employer/client. Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend that the CCIE made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5 years ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-) DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now. Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in the long run. Just MY percecption I guess! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=19322t=19296 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccie lab question? [7:18403]
It is going to be very hard to get a date before the switch, you will have to probably go to another country. My thinking is wait for the one-day that way if you go down you will at least know the layout and format. If you take the two-day and go down the next time you go back you will see a new format because it will be the one-day format. Don - Original Message - From: george gittins To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 6:05 AM Subject: ccie lab question? [7:18403] question for all folks. i want to take the ccie lab test before the implement the one day lab. however what would be my deadline. this is of course take it either at california or the other site, just take it before the one day lab kicks in. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=18409t=18403 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Password recovery when console it hosed [7:17743]
People are going to tell you that you have a bad terminal package but I don't think thats it. Can you get into rommon, if you can run the router with 0x2141. If you still get garbled console you may want to try and load a small image. I once loaded a very large image on a 1600 and starting recieveing garbled messages. I had to send it back to cisco the TAC guy on the phone said that this can happen sometimes when there is not enough memory for the expanding image. It will even negate displaying the rommon functionality, which really surprised me. - Original Message - From: Adam Luy To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:37 PM Subject: Password recovery when console it hosed [7:17743] Hey everybody, I have a couple of 3102 routers at home that I can not get into. The console ports have been set to some strange setting I can not seem to figure out. I've tried what seems to be an endless combination of speeds, parity, stop bits, data bits, etc..., but still get garbled data out the console. I have other 3102s in my lab, so I know I've got good cables and all that. Plus, if I have a TFTP server going when I power them up they will download IOS from it, so I know they are working, just can't get into the damn console! Is there anyway to manually/physically clear NVRAM so the console is set back to 9600,n,8,1? Help! -Adam Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17866t=17743 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BMC Patrol [7:17794]
Well hello there CIO lackey geek. How do you know it is a good deal. I try a guess, the geek salesman told you that it retails for 59.95 but he will sell it to you for 39.95. You have been evaluating it why don't you share your findings. Sorry I'm a little edgy Brad just hinted at the possibility of a PIX on the Lab so that throw my ASP and ERP into a full blown tizzy cause all the DBA's are sucking snow cones for an extended holiday weekend. You know I only have 4 Megs of RAM and D-Day late May. hey good luck with that usless app. Don - Original Message - From: 350mhz To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:08 PM Subject: BMC Patrol [7:17794] Hi Cisco Geeks, We are evaluating a new product from BMC called Patrol DashBoard and Patrol Visualis. I am told by the Sales Geeks that this product is fairly new; therefore it's been rough getting feed back. So I turn to you. What is the word? Who has used it, what are the Pro and Cons? Is this company worth dealing with? They are cutting us a good deal and the CIO is about to go for it unless I can dig up some dirt. Thank Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17958t=17794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Offtopic: Sun Solaris Admin [7:17684]
yo bri you better watch you mucho faqage.
Don't say you aint been warned.
- Original Message -
From: Brian Whalen
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: Offtopic: Sun Solaris Admin [7:17684]
There are lots of mailing lists and newsgroups. For newsgroups, there are
a few comp.sys.sun groups, and some yahoo clubs; I'm sure others can be
found with some searching. www.sunhelp.org is useful, as is the sun
managers list. A site for that is www.sunmanagers.org. Both of these
last 2 sites have mucho faqage..
Brian Sonic Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Rob Bains wrote:
Try solcert on yahoo. There are a couple of sun related lists on Yahoo,
but
solcert is
a good starting point.
Rob
Admin wrote:
hi all,
do you know of a similar discussion group dedicated to Unix/Sun
Solaris
Admin
certification ?
have to get solaris admin cert to retain my job.
thanks
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Re: BMC Patrol [7:17794]
The use of geek twice in an e-mail will always set me off. I'm an Engineer. P.S. Oh and since I'm a geek I thought a few buzz-word acronyms would be nice. No? P.S.S. I don't have any DBA's I made that part up. P.S.S.S. I thought in all that non-sense there were two good questions, namely; How do you know it is a good deal? It aint worth five bucks if its broke. Since you have been evaluating it why don't you share your findings? Me thinks the evaluation period was a power point sales presentation and maybe a demo copy for the laptop. Yeah lets launch. - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: Re: BMC Patrol [7:17794] No offense, Don, but did you smoke something illegal before writing that email?? ;-) I'm having trouble figuring out why you even bothered to reply considering your post was only ranting about PIXes and DBAs on vacation! Do you know something about that app or not? If not, why bother replying just to rip into the guy? Heck, I don't even know why I'm responding to you, either. It's not my place to be the content cop, but good grief if you honestly have nothing whatsoever to contribute to a thread, why waste the bandwidth? Okay, I admit, I'm a little grumpy today but I won't blame you for that. :-) I'll go crawl back into my hole for the rest of the afternoon. John p.s. What does PIXes in the lab have to do with your ASP and ERP going into a tizzy because DBAs are on vacation? Does that make sense to anyone?? I must have missed something somewhere along the line. Donald B Johnson jr 8/30/01 3:59:49 PM Well hello there CIO lackey geek. How do you know it is a good deal. I try a guess, the geek salesman told you that it retails for 59.95 but he will sell it to you for 39.95. You have been evaluating it why don't you share your findings. Sorry I'm a little edgy Brad just hinted at the possibility of a PIX on the Lab so that throw my ASP and ERP into a full blown tizzy cause all the DBA's are sucking snow cones for an extended holiday weekend. You know I only have 4 Megs of RAM and D-Day late May. hey good luck with that usless app. Don - Original Message - From: 350mhz To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:08 PM Subject: BMC Patrol [7:17794] Hi Cisco Geeks, We are evaluating a new product from BMC called Patrol DashBoard and Patrol Visualis. I am told by the Sales Geeks that this product is fairly new; therefore it's been rough getting feed back. So I turn to you. What is the word? Who has used it, what are the Pro and Cons? Is this company worth dealing with? They are cutting us a good deal and the CIO is about to go for it unless I can dig up some dirt. Thank Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17969t=17794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Prologue: Anything wrong with this switch? [7:17045]
Actually EA he did have a chance to defend himself. Let's say he sold a dead 2501 for 500 dollars, the only way he could defend himself would be to give the money back. Coming on here or any forum and doing a he-said/she-said would not be defending himself it would be embarrassing himself. - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:32 AM Subject: Re: Prologue: Anything wrong with this switch? [7:17045] Well gee, Sanjay, that would be a bummer for me. I don't have a rating of 100 on eBay, yet I've sold kits to people in the $2000 range without a problem. Regarding Evgeny at IQSale/ojick/lanbuilder2000, I'm sure with the volume of business that he does, there are bound to be some disgruntled customers - no one is perfect. (Well, I take that back, because [EMAIL PROTECTED] is really good for the volume that he does.) If he doesn't make it right, however, he doesn't deserve the victim's repeat business. But there is no reason to drag his name/business through the mud as a result without giving him an opportunity to defend himself. That would be the honorable thing to do. Let he without sin cast the first stone - Original Message - From: Sanjay Chaudhry To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Prologue: Anything wrong with this switch? [7:17045] Thanks Brian, Daniel, Priscilla and Eric for all your input. It helped me tremendously. As advised by many posters I asked the seller to send me the output of 'show ver' for this switch. The otherwise prompt-replier seller maintained a loud silence. Shortly after that there was a discussion thread on group study about people being cheated by IQSale posing under different name on EBay. This was the same guy selling this switch, under yet another name of lanbuilder2000!!! Obviously, I did not go ahead with the deal. After this close-shave I will not advise anybody to buy anything expensive on Ebay from a seller with a rating of -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sanjay Chaudhry Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Urgent: Anything wrong with this switch? [7:17045] Hi Everyone, I'm trying to buy a refurbished switch with the following specifications: = Cisco Catalyst 5505 w/ Supervisor Engine II WS-X5506 Included in the Chassis: One WS-C5505 Chassis 5 slot Chassis 1 Supervisor Engine II (WS-X5506) 1 AC Power Supply 1 12 PORT 100BaseTX Ethernet (WS-X5113) 1 AC Cord 1 Console Kit = There is no guarantee against DOA from seller. I'll be responsible for everything after the sale!! I'm a recent CCNA. This is intended for my CCNP/CCIE lab. I'll need your advice here... I don't even know if Flash/RAM should have been mentioned in the switch specs and are missing... Your input is highly valued. Thanks, Sanjay _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17966t=17045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3 envelopes [7:17666]
marilyn's husband - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:29 PM Subject: Re: 3 envelopes [7:17666] who is Tom Chambers? - Original Message - From: netm thru To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:25 AM Subject: 3 envelopes [7:17666] A CEO resigned from a company and left the new CEO 3 envelopes. The new one asked the old one what they were for. He replied open them one at a time when times get tough. A few months later when times were tough the new CEO opened an envelope and it said Blame the economy so he did. A quarter later when things were still bad he opened the second envelope. It said Restructure. A couple of quarters later he opened the third envelope. It said Leave 3 envelopes. How long before Tom Chambers leaves his 3 envelopes? __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17734t=17666 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ambiguous command [7:17568]
I agree TOTALLY with Leigh Anne, but I would also like to add that I was very disappointed at how many questions on the CCIE written were word for word on testing software. One is a coincidence about forty exact word for word questions is criminal. So even if someone posts a question with QID and vendor info you could still be treading thin ice. I think the software copied the Test questions, cisco didn't look at the software and say we gotta have that one. Don - Original Message - From: Leigh Anne Chisholm To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:20 PM Subject: RE: ambiguous command [7:17568] If someone replies to a question indicating they can't respond due to NDA, it's more than likely that that person has it on good authority that the question comes from an official Cisco exam. It's best if people didn't jump to responding to such questions until the poster identifies the source of the question. In this particular example, two people posted messages indicating answering would contravene NDA. Groupstudy has never been about providing a home for braindumps - it's been about enhansing knowledge. Jo Carol needs to keep questions OFF the list unless the source has been specified--and the rest of us need to take the time to make sure we're not contributing to devaluing the worth of our Certifications. -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Willard Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ambiguous command [7:17568] That isn't a NDA issue. That's something you can easily test on any router that runs IOS. A quick test of telneting to a router and typing show i results in the ambiguous command message followed by the Router# prompt. There's your answer. James Willard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wright, Jeremy wrote: Can't answer- must respect NDA -Original Message- From: jo carol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:ambiguous command [7:17568] Hi I had a question on a test that said if after a command you get %ambiguous command will the router return to the original command or just router# Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -James Donavon Willard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17675t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: $10 Vitual CCIE/CCNP LAB NOW AVAILABLE [7:17490]
They also say that they have CCIE's on staff to deploy for all your networking needs. If CCIE's were behind those Labs they should be ashamed of themselves. Why don't John Doe send us their names and IE numbers and Chuck and I could check them out on our favorite tool, the CCIE verification tool on CCO. Little advice to the dude that wants to sell rack time, focus on CCNA's first, you do have equipment to satisfy their needs but you don't even come close to NP or IE level with what you are showing. Don't say I didn't try to help. - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: RE: $10 Vitual CCIE/CCNP LAB NOW AVAILABLE [7:17490] I was a bit more interested in fritz on training, rather than hans on, but... with regards to Lab 1, you may want to add some commentary regarding the issue around the links between R2-R4 and R3-R4. it is an important issue, and the earlier one learns it, the better. with regards to Lab 2, I believe you meant to say issue a shut command, rather than a no shut a good hard working pre-CCNA level should be able to do the RIP lab in an hour, with plenty of time for troubleshooting. the IGRP lab appears to be a BCRAN level lab, and maybe 90 minutes or so. hiding behind the John Doe moniker leaves me wondering. got a real name and real e-mail? Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: $10 Vitual CCIE/CCNP LAB NOW AVAILABLE [7:17490] www.it3networksonline.com is an up an coming web site that hosts virtual labs to help individuals gain hans on training for CCIE/CCNP/CCNA status. We also provide free over the phone support to help you get started and to answer network related questions at 917-880-6532. The first lab will be FREE! Please visit www.it3networksonline.com. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17520t=17490 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I get into the COLT? [7:17531]
Gone! Check the archives a detailed discussion there. - Original Message - From: Ariel To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:56 AM Subject: How do I get into the COLT? [7:17531] I am studying for my third Cisco exam. I've heard about taking the Colt testing for a practice dry run. How do I get into the COLT? I have a CCO account, but I can't seem to find the COLT within the CISCO website. Thanks in advance... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17534t=17531 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Info on CCIE lab Paul what say yee [7:17548]
I just got off the phone with Robin from Cisco's CCIE team. Here is a synopsis of that conversation. 1. Halifax, San Jose, RTP are all running neck-and-neck for dates. Sometime in May 2002 is first available. 2. Anyone scheduled for a date after Oct 1 will automatically receive a One-Day Lab, even if you scheduled a Two-day Lab. In fact they are still scheduling Two-Day'ers. 3. Sometime in mid-to-end Oct they will release the freed up dates, resulting from Labs scheduled for two days that are now only one day. I guess you pick which day you want, I didn't ask that, just thought of it. This means that there will be a lot of open spots. 4. You cannot request a date for a one-day lab until all the dates are freed up. So start your engines, put that number in speed dial, and bookmark that page, the race is ON. In October some lucky fool could potentially, call on a Tuesday and stand on a Saturday for the CCIE lab. Unbelievable. Rashid are you listening you could call right after the proctor is done chatting with you, almost like a double booking. 5. It takes at least 5-to-7 business days for the information to make it from Prometric/Vue into the CCIE database. (Despite what the WEB page says) Been itching to schedule for a long time (39 yrs pre written, 6 days post written). Little personal issue there. 6. You may be able to move up once the one-day schedule is released, Robin was unclear on this point, she stated they were going to see how the program phases in. The operative word here is may. 7. Paul B. may want to relax his restrictions on gaining access to the CCIE list in light of the ambiguity surrounding scheduling issues. If I schedule now, I have to wait till May 2002, someone can wait and call after Oct 2001 and stand the lab in a short amount of time. This person that waits technically won't be able to access the list but he would go to the lab within the three month time frame. That is just one scenario. Paul what say yee about those of us that have passed the written but are in this Lab scheduling quandry. Don Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17548t=17548 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Setup [7:17285]
The list is on the cisco site. Part of becoming a CCIE is being familar with different routers/switches and ports (interfaces). You may want to get a lab guide and see what they are using and how, this should be a good start. I would say at a minimum 36 serial interfaces. 20 sync 16 async - Original Message - From: XYZ To: Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 9:24 PM Subject: CCIE Lab Setup [7:17285] I would like to setup a CCIE R/S Lab, what routers and switches should I have in the Lab? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17436t=17285 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab exam - booked twice [7:17310]
Oh I see maybe they could roll out a red carpet as you stroll up. No better yet I could throw rose petal since I aint busy anymore cause you double booked and I gotta wait for the really good guys to keep going through until they pass. Then you say you would cancel the second one if you failed, I think you meant pass. If this is your thought process you may want to add a third date. You may try pirating that Transcender test for a test brain too. - Original Message - From: Rashid Lohiya To: Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 2:49 AM Subject: CCIE Lab exam - booked twice [7:17310] Guys, Does anyone know whether one person can book the lab twice? ie. 1 for April, 1 for June, thus allowing him to cancel and get a refund on the second one if the first is failed. In this way, the year long wait would not need to be endured if I was to fail the first time around. -- Rashid Lohiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] 020 8509 2990 07785 362626 www.pioneer-computers.com London UK www.rashidl.co.uk Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17439t=17310 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Exam Cram [7:17334]
no they didn't did they Thank You, Donald B Johnson Jr Engineering/Technical Operations Corporate Manager Technical Support Services Adelphia Communications Corp. P# 888-277-6872 support line Pg# 866-690-9276 pager P# 814-260-3259 office F# 814-260-3227 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rayappa Mayakunthala To: Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:14 AM Subject: CCIE Exam Cram [7:17334] Cisco added CCIE Exam Cram to the recommended reading list! http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html Rayappa. This message is confidential and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose, nor disclose it's contents to any other person. The views and opinions expressed in this e-mail message are the author's own and may not reflect the views and opinions of Wilco International. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17440t=17334 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Tacacs [7:17110]
See this is what I am talking about here is a snipit from that page. __ Download xtacacsd v4.1 for Cisco terminal servers. Does Skey, PH databases, accounting and more _ Note: this software is not being developed any more because of the advent of better protocols such as radius and tac_plus. _ So why don't you just roll that one out since you're busy, then when a bug locks everybody out don't call them for support. You'll be researching how to do a lot of good old fashion console work without the boss finding out. - Original Message - From: Ramesh K To: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:14 AM Subject: Re: Re: Tacacs [7:17110] Hi stephen, You can use tacacs if you want to authenticate the users accessing your routers .You can get the log also.You can download the same from www.navya.com I don't have idea about kerboros ... In my setup tacacs is working fine thanks ramesh On Fri, 24 Aug 2001 Stephen Skinner wrote : Hello, i don`t mean to be rude but i think the reason the gentleman replyed the way he did was because way you posed your question was to say i`m to busy ...you lot do it for me now i personal believe that that is not the case and you were simply asking (as i do all the time) for some assistance in this subject matter. unfortunatly i don`t have an answer to your question but also require info on tacacs+so please don`t be afraid to pass on what you may learn Kindest Regards steve From: khramov Reply-To: khramov To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tacacs [7:17110] Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:58:12 -0400 As far as I know this is Cisco newsgroup and it should be used for technical discussions not for personal insults. If you think that you are smarter than me or have better work habits that is fine, I am not going to argue with that. Otherwise I would be asking questions. Donald B Johnson jr wrote: After someone gives you an answer, are you going to have time to research if it is a good solution for you or are you going to just implement it. It sure must warm the cockles of your supervisors heart if he could see you now. actually the only two things that would make me to busy that I couldn't research an access solution would be; A raging blaze A Seinfeld rerun don - Original Message - From: khramov To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:17 AM Subject: Tacacs [7:17110] Hi, Just like everyone else sometimes I do not have enough time to do the research myself and I post questions here. Here is what I am trying to do: I am trying to set up some sort of security server on my network to authorize user access on routers and switches. First of all what should I use Tacacs (extended or +), Radius, Kerberos, which one seem to work better. Second where can I buy/download the software or can I just configure a router as a Tacacs server. Just give me some ideas on this. Thanks a lot, alex - _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp 110 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17454t=17110 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Don't buy from OneSource Was Don't buy from IQ [7:17225]
thanks Phil I bought a MM adapter from them, luckily it worked. I would not buy from them again because of this info. Not because of bad equipment but because of the way they handled it. Did you file a greivience with E-Bay. How about the insurance how does that work shouldn't the money come to you since you filed the claim. I think if someone builds a list please let me know, I am always stocking my lab on E-Bay. Don - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Don't buy from OneSource Was Don't buy from IQ [7:17225] Add one more- Ebay's BabyJake. He sent me a DOA router them asked me to fill out insurance paperwork for possible UPS damages. I did sent the router back. This was more than 6 months 10 E-mails ago. I suspect BabyJake was paid both UPS's insurance me. Very Unscrupulous Phil - Original Message - From: Jason To: Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:47 AM Subject: Re: Don't buy from OneSource Was Don't buy from IQ [7:17225] Well, my advise to all is still the same, don't buy from 1. OneSource 2. IQSale 3. GrandStore 4. Hitek They are the same companies and they seems to believe that changing their names help to avoid their responsibilities to their customers. They are FRAUD and CHEATER . I will also put up the names of the people that I was in contact with in a web page shortly... If you know of anybody that has been cheat or default by these companies above, please forward details to me and I will put it together in a web page as a warning to others. If anybody knows any other name that the companies go by , let me know... I will be putting up a web page pertaining to this company and I strongly suggest that anybody thinking of buying anything from them either directly or through eBay, seriously reconsider it. Brad Ellis wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... IQSale is now known as Onesource. FYI It seems like there are quite a few unhappy customers out there. We were (stopped using them about 6 mos ago) using them as one of our sources on occasion and I can't say we ever had any problems with them. -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco: www.optsys.net Fanglo MA wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Agree! I also had such experience with IQSale. Fanglo Jason wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... And they probably thought that you didn't know what you are asking for and that they are doing you a favour by giving you a switch :-P What I would really tell everybody is not to buy from IQSale and Grandstore, these guys are FRAUD !!! CHEATERS. So guys, remember, don't buy from IQSale aka Grandstore aka HiTEK they also use different seller names in eBay FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17430t=17225 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Don't buy from OneSource Was Don't buy from IQ [7:17225]
Thank You, Donald B Johnson Jr Engineering/Technical Operations Corporate Manager Technical Support Services Adelphia Communications Corp. P# 888-277-6872 support line Pg# 866-690-9276 pager P# 814-260-3259 office F# 814-260-3227 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Brian To: Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Don't buy from OneSource Was Don't buy from IQ [7:17225] Phil, Just curious, because I am a reseller, and I sell/buy equipment from alot of people already mentioned on this list, including babyjake (World Wide Technology Exchange). When you call him, and he, or sheila answers the phone, and you put this in there face point blank.what do they say? i mean how do they respond? I would not use email. I would call them every day. Brian On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Circusnuts wrote: Add one more- Ebay's BabyJake. He sent me a DOA router them asked me to fill out insurance paperwork for possible UPS damages. I did sent the router back. This was more than 6 months 10 E-mails ago. I suspect BabyJake was paid both UPS's insurance me. Very Unscrupulous Phil - Original Message - From: Jason To: Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:47 AM Subject: Re: Don't buy from OneSource Was Don't buy from IQ [7:17225] Well, my advise to all is still the same, don't buy from 1. OneSource 2. IQSale 3. GrandStore 4. Hitek They are the same companies and they seems to believe that changing their names help to avoid their responsibilities to their customers. They are FRAUD and CHEATER . I will also put up the names of the people that I was in contact with in a web page shortly... If you know of anybody that has been cheat or default by these companies above, please forward details to me and I will put it together in a web page as a warning to others. If anybody knows any other name that the companies go by , let me know... I will be putting up a web page pertaining to this company and I strongly suggest that anybody thinking of buying anything from them either directly or through eBay, seriously reconsider it. Brad Ellis wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... IQSale is now known as Onesource. FYI It seems like there are quite a few unhappy customers out there. We were (stopped using them about 6 mos ago) using them as one of our sources on occasion and I can't say we ever had any problems with them. -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco: www.optsys.net Fanglo MA wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Agree! I also had such experience with IQSale. Fanglo Jason wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... And they probably thought that you didn't know what you are asking for and that they are doing you a favour by giving you a switch :-P What I would really tell everybody is not to buy from IQSale and Grandstore, these guys are FRAUD !!! CHEATERS. So guys, remember, don't buy from IQSale aka Grandstore aka HiTEK they also use different seller names in eBay FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm buying / selling used CISCO gear!! email me for a quote Brian Feeny, CCIE #8036 Netjam, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netjam.net VISA/MC/AMEX/COD phone: 318-212-0245 30 day warranty fax: 318-212-0246 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17432t=17225 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Don't buy from OneSource Was Don't buy from IQ [7:17225]
I'd give them a call. Here is the contact info: Rachel Reed Customer Service Worldwide Technology Exchange, Inc. 1929 Main Street, Suite 106 Irvine, CA 92614 Phone: (949) 428-3347 Fax: (949) 428-3396 - Original Message - From: Brian To: Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Don't buy from OneSource Was Don't buy from IQ [7:17225] Phil, Just curious, because I am a reseller, and I sell/buy equipment from alot of people already mentioned on this list, including babyjake (World Wide Technology Exchange). When you call him, and he, or sheila answers the phone, and you put this in there face point blank.what do they say? i mean how do they respond? I would not use email. I would call them every day. Brian On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Circusnuts wrote: Add one more- Ebay's BabyJake. He sent me a DOA router them asked me to fill out insurance paperwork for possible UPS damages. I did sent the router back. This was more than 6 months 10 E-mails ago. I suspect BabyJake was paid both UPS's insurance me. Very Unscrupulous Phil - Original Message - From: Jason To: Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:47 AM Subject: Re: Don't buy from OneSource Was Don't buy from IQ [7:17225] Well, my advise to all is still the same, don't buy from 1. OneSource 2. IQSale 3. GrandStore 4. Hitek They are the same companies and they seems to believe that changing their names help to avoid their responsibilities to their customers. They are FRAUD and CHEATER . I will also put up the names of the people that I was in contact with in a web page shortly... If you know of anybody that has been cheat or default by these companies above, please forward details to me and I will put it together in a web page as a warning to others. If anybody knows any other name that the companies go by , let me know... I will be putting up a web page pertaining to this company and I strongly suggest that anybody thinking of buying anything from them either directly or through eBay, seriously reconsider it. Brad Ellis wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... IQSale is now known as Onesource. FYI It seems like there are quite a few unhappy customers out there. We were (stopped using them about 6 mos ago) using them as one of our sources on occasion and I can't say we ever had any problems with them. -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco: www.optsys.net Fanglo MA wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Agree! I also had such experience with IQSale. Fanglo Jason wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... And they probably thought that you didn't know what you are asking for and that they are doing you a favour by giving you a switch :-P What I would really tell everybody is not to buy from IQSale and Grandstore, these guys are FRAUD !!! CHEATERS. So guys, remember, don't buy from IQSale aka Grandstore aka HiTEK they also use different seller names in eBay FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm buying / selling used CISCO gear!! email me for a quote Brian Feeny, CCIE #8036 Netjam, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netjam.net VISA/MC/AMEX/COD phone: 318-212-0245 30 day warranty fax: 318-212-0246 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17433t=17225 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tacacs [7:17110]
After someone gives you an answer, are you going to have time to research if it is a good solution for you or are you going to just implement it. It sure must warm the cockles of your supervisors heart if he could see you now. actually the only two things that would make me to busy that I couldn't research an access solution would be; A raging blaze A Seinfeld rerun don - Original Message - From: khramov To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:17 AM Subject: Tacacs [7:17110] Hi, Just like everyone else sometimes I do not have enough time to do the research myself and I post questions here. Here is what I am trying to do: I am trying to set up some sort of security server on my network to authorize user access on routers and switches. First of all what should I use Tacacs (extended or +), Radius, Kerberos, which one seem to work better. Second where can I buy/download the software or can I just configure a router as a Tacacs server. Just give me some ideas on this. Thanks a lot, alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17119t=17110 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fridays funnies [7:17141]
Natasha that was a seminal moment in my life. I was planning on wasting 8-12 months studying for the lab. Maybe I need to join the jobs group if the humor is that rich. Probably a better fit for me. Thank You, Donald B Johnson Jr - Original Message - From: Natasha To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:01 AM Subject: OT: Fridays funnies [7:17141] Ok 2 jokes and then something that was posted on the groupstudy jobs list that you may get a kick out of. Name withheld of course. - Three men are traveling in the Amazon, a German, an American, and a Mexican, and they get captured by some Amazons. The head of the tribe says to the German, What do you want on your back for your whipping? The German responds, I will take oil! So they put oil on his back, and a large Amazon whips him 10 times. When he is finished the German has huge welts on his back, and he can hardly move. The Amazons haul the German away, and say to the Mexican, What do you want on your back? I will take sand! says the Mexican, and he stands there straight and takes his 10 lashings without a single flinch. What will you take on your back? the Amazons ask the American. I'll take the Mexican. -- A married couple is awakened by the sound of someone knocking on their door. The husband gets up, opens the window, and shouts, Who's there? A voice from below calls out, Please help. I need a push. It's three in the morning, the man hollers. Get lost before I call the cops! His wife rolls over and says, Honey, you should help that person. Remember when our children got stuck on the highway late that night and that trucker helped? The guy sighs, goes downstairs, and calls out, Hey, do you still need a push? Yes, a voice replies. Where are you? Over here, on the swings! Now the jobs list posting... good morning to you. I am looking out for a job real quick. I have been lazing around too much after I quit my job of 3 months and have finally decided to work and and shoot up my career. Presently MCSE. My friend has CCIE books and we two have decided to study hard for about 10 days and finish off the CCIE written and 10 days later the lab. You can interview me now and I would be able to join you only 20 days later, by Sept.15 definitely. I would send my resume to anybody interested. Specifications: Can relocate anywhere in USA. Salary Expected: $85,000. We can give you a better offer if you agree to employ me and my friend both. Will need 20 days leave in Jan 2002 to do CCEE. -- Natasha Flazynski CCNA, MCSE http://www.ciscobot.com My Cisco information site. http://www.botbuilders.com Artificial Intelligence and Linux development Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17160t=17141 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tacacs [7:17110]
No that is not it Steve, my therapist says if I'm good all week I can have a relapse or two on friday. P) - Original Message - From: Stephen Skinner To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:00 AM Subject: Re: Tacacs [7:17110] Hello, i don`t mean to be rude but i think the reason the gentleman replyed the way he did was because way you posed your question was to say i`m to busy ...you lot do it for me now i personal believe that that is not the case and you were simply asking (as i do all the time) for some assistance in this subject matter. unfortunatly i don`t have an answer to your question but also require info on tacacs+so please don`t be afraid to pass on what you may learn Kindest Regards steve From: khramov Reply-To: khramov To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tacacs [7:17110] Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:58:12 -0400 As far as I know this is Cisco newsgroup and it should be used for technical discussions not for personal insults. If you think that you are smarter than me or have better work habits that is fine, I am not going to argue with that. Otherwise I would be asking questions. Donald B Johnson jr wrote: After someone gives you an answer, are you going to have time to research if it is a good solution for you or are you going to just implement it. It sure must warm the cockles of your supervisors heart if he could see you now. actually the only two things that would make me to busy that I couldn't research an access solution would be; A raging blaze A Seinfeld rerun don - Original Message - From: khramov To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:17 AM Subject: Tacacs [7:17110] Hi, Just like everyone else sometimes I do not have enough time to do the research myself and I post questions here. Here is what I am trying to do: I am trying to set up some sort of security server on my network to authorize user access on routers and switches. First of all what should I use Tacacs (extended or +), Radius, Kerberos, which one seem to work better. Second where can I buy/download the software or can I just configure a router as a Tacacs server. Just give me some ideas on this. Thanks a lot, alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17161t=17110 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
that funnie job posting [7:17164]
Natasha that was a seminal moment in my life. I was planning on wasting 8-12 months studying for the lab. Maybe I need to join the jobs group if the humor is that rich. Probably a better fit for me. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17164t=17164 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BOSON FOR CIT and Cisco Training Manuals [7:17149]
Answer 1 download the demos and see which ones you like best. I always checked which works they referenced for their explanations. if I had that volume in my libabry it was probably a shoe-in. Answer 2 good question my first thinking would be no but since I also donate stuff and work with my local libabry every year I know they work under some special rules. That solely for your own personal use. thing is the hook. You should call Cisco and see. - Original Message - From: J. Li To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:19 AM Subject: 2Q: BOSON FOR CIT and Cisco Training Manuals [7:17149] Two quick questions. Q1. BOSON CIT Are BOSON tests good for CIT exam? I plan to buy 2 BOSON tests. Which ones do you recommend? Should I buy test #1 and #2 or test #2 and #3? Q2. Cisco Training Manuals -- Copyright I attended all Cisco training classes and have the official training manuals. Cisco says Cisco and its suppliers grant to you a nonexclusive and nontransferable license to use the Cisco Materials solely for your own personal use... After I finish my CCNP, I don't plan to keep these manuals. If I donate (transfer?) them to our local library, does it violate the license/copyright rule? Regards, J. Li __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17163t=17149 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Syslog Server [7:17171]
NT or UNIX - Original Message - From: Wright, Jeremy To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:10 AM Subject: Syslog Server [7:17171] Does anyone have suggestions/preferences on what syslog server to get? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17178t=17171 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best study materials to use [7:16946]
Actually CCDP is not an addition to the CCNP it is a stand alone cert. - Original Message - From: Munzir Khan To: Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:10 AM Subject: RE: Best study materials to use [7:16946] Cisco Press is always the best bacause it is more specific what you see in the real exams although some people read other books along with cisco press which are more users friendly and easy to pickup like sybex, examcram etc. CCDP is just an addition to CCNP where you see more about desgining networks and you have to give two additional exams CCDA CID to obtain CCDP cert. Cheers. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16968t=16946 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Command to route directly to host [7:16820]
or an interface on a switch a hole in a ship :) - Original Message - From: Peter Slow To: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:57 AM Subject: RE: Command to route directly to host [7:16820] you meant a router INTERFACE. a port is a tcp or udp port. -Original Message- From: Leonardo Toco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Command to route directly to host [7:16820] Hi, I need your help !!! I need to set a router to route all the incoming in a determined serial to a specific host and not to a router port, this host is a proxy and all the packets should go there. Maybe there is a simple command but I really dont know. Can you guys helpme ? Thanks a lot. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16864t=16820 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
Then why are they called port adapters you know slot/adapter/port serial 0/1/2 would be in the first slot second adapter third port that is where i would interface my cable coming from the dsu 30 minutes to the big seat - the written 8 months to the big stand - the lab and there i go goofing around on this list - Original Message - From: Peter Slow To: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16867t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668]
Since we are talking about new networking terms you coined one the other day Priscilla. It was in the splitting the group string. You described people coming on this list, asking horribly worded questions, that were probably quickly brain-dumped to a palm pilot then regurgitated here. This is after a booming failure. So that is a new networking/list term. Palm-Pilot English. And the coin is yours. Don P.S. That busted me up!! - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: Re: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668] At 11:59 PM 8/21/01, Tony Medeiros wrote: I always thought split horizon was a non intuitive term anyway. iBGP or whatever. Some engineers come up with the strangest names for things. Split horizon implys there is a big tree that is obstructing my view of the sunset. :0 Is it a spanning tree? ;-) I like the term split horizon and agree with the idea of using it generically. I encourage the generic use of most terms so that people think about what they really mean. See a discussion we had earlier about distance vector, for example. For spanning tree, I like the way Radia Perlman puts it: The purpose of the spanning tree algorithm is to have bridges dynamically discover a subset of the topology that is loop-free (a tree) and yet has enough connectivity so that where physically possible, there is a path between every pair of LANs (the tree is spanning). I'm not sure I had ever thought about why the word spanning is in the phrase. And I would add to her description: A tree is a mathematical concept. A tree is a diagram or graph that branches from a single stem without forming loops or polygons. A lot of people learn these terms without understanding them. And, back to the subject, I think split horizon can be used in this situation, even though it's a bit different and the horizons aren't quite the same. Priscilla (wishing she was looking over the Hawaiian horizon about now. ;-) Tony M. (Split personnality) - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:13 PM Subject: RE: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668] I thought I was fairly careful in stating that with iBGP split-horizon, an iBGP router will not advertise a route to the same AS from which it receives the route. This covers the interface issue. Chuck whose mama didn't raise no fool, and whose lawyer wife has taught him the hard way about wording things ;- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ole Drews Jensen Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668] Chuck, I think there's a difference here. Split Horizon as you say, does not advertise a route back out the interface that it received it on, but the iBGP does not only not propagate a route learned from other iBGP out the receiving interface, but it does not propagate it out any interfaces unless it has been setup as a cluster server. If you would name this, it would probably be something like iBGP horizon :-) Just my 0010 cents. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668] As a result of an off-list conversation, I came across the following networking term: iBGP split horizon my first reaction was a sarcastic remark about never having come across the term in the RFC's. but then I got to thinking about it, and I now see this as a descriptive and quite useful term. recall that distance vector protocols are subject to the rule of split horizon. they do not advertise a route back out the interface that they received that particular route. one of the gotchas of iBGP is the fact that iBGP routers do not propagate routes learned from one iBGP neighbor to other iBGP neighbors. hence the requirement for iBGP full mesh. so why not call this iBGP split horizon? and define it as follows: an iBGP router will not advertise a route back out the same AS from which it learned the route? does this make sense? worth letting this one join the lexicon of networking terminology? Chuck Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at:
Re: What Router for Routing Between VLANS [7:16609]
I believe any router will route between VLANS, if you want to use the same interface I believe it has to be FE. - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:23 PM Subject: What Router for Routing Between VLANS [7:16609] I have lent out my CCNP books do not remember all the router models that can route between VLAN's. I currently have a 4700M doing the job, but wanted to know if a 2600 would route them. Thanks Phil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16648t=16609 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
Tony I sit my written tomorrow at 3pm and if I pass I can't wait to get on that boring list - Original Message - From: Tony Medeiros To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217] Let's keep the list the same, I my opinion, The mix of cert. posts along with the real world stuff make's it interesting. Plus, it give the higher level people a chance to help out their fellow man/women. The CCIE list has gotten so test centric it's got boring. I like to take as well as to learn Sure your going to get low level questions. Just ignore them and let the junior guys get a trill out of helping another person Tony ME. #6172. - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 11:31 AM Subject: RE: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217] Not that I disagree, Don, but this has been a source of annoyance for many folks for as long as I've been on the list ( around 2 years. ) two points: 1) sometimes some of these work related scenarios provide good learning points 2) people ask these kinds of questions on all the lists, no matter what. The CCIE list would get it's fair share of this kind of question as well. without having the list 100% moderated, with all messages being reviewed, there is no practical way to stop this. and sometimes there is something to be learned that is applicable to one's studies. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donald B Johnson jr Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217] I think that if there is a split, all these questions concerning work should be split out. It is supposed to be about group study not group consulting. Over the time that I have been here there seems to be a growing number of narrowly worded questions to bail someone out at work, and this individual doesn't even seem to consult CCO most of the time, even though they are supporting a Cisco platform. The culture here seems to support and highly respect the intellectual property of others, which I whole-heartedly agree, but it shows a lack of respect for those who consult for a living. I personally like giving so called flames to people who are looking for free consulting work to hide there apparent laziness. Just like everyone chimes in when someone comes here and tries to sell certzone labs gets blasted. I wish that blatant my boss wants me to set up a central frame hub and six spoke network what should I do should get blasted or pointed to place where people can consult for food. Paul any e-mail that has boss in it should get an automated stock reply, check CCO, call cisco, buy gear, have cisco SE set it up, have a nice day. Now I know people are going to say that this is how they learn by posting real world questions and this is true but it is the blatant ones that I am talking about. Oh and keep this in mind that the people answering the these so called learning experiences didn't just know the answer, at some point they had to check CCO, contact Cisco, buy gear, work with Cisco SE, have a nice day. - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217] When I go on vaction I unsubscribe and then subscribe again. Would all my messages go in the moderator's queue when I subscribed again? That would be annoying for the moderator (and for me. ;-) Other than that, I think it's a good idea to have messages from a new subscriber go through the moderator for a while. As I'm sure you have considered, it's not a very scalable idea, though. I hope you don't divide the group again. The general networking questions are helpful to those studying for CCNP and CCDP. The diversity of messages (except for the flames, of course) are good for learning and represent the real world better than if we just got questions about passing scores, etc. Thanks again for all you do for us! Priscilla At 12:02 PM 8/17/01, Paul Borghese wrote: With an open group, you are going to have your share of noise. Everyone's ides of noise is different. For example, to many this very e-mail is noise because it is not directly on subject. But there are some things we can do to help lessen the noise. They are on my to-do list, just have been too busy.: 1. Comprehensive FAQ - we need a new faq that can answer the questions that are asked over and over again. 2. Split out the professional group from the general networking group. 3. Setup a system where new users can not post directly to the group - This is the most difficult of the three ideas
Re: For FR Grus.... [7:16635]
How do you set up a sw as a full mesh and a network as a HUB and Spoke. I dont understand. - Original Message - From: Cisco Lover To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:08 AM Subject: Fwd: For FR Grus [7:16635] Oopss Sorry guys...I donto know where it lost in b/w..Any way..I have write it here again. Thanks for the kind replies.. For eg, our FR switch is setup for Full mesh,But out network is setup as Hub Spoke environment.In that case there must be some unused DLCI's on spoke routers which we would still be seeing as active on these routers although they would be of no use offcourse for this envioronmetnt. Is there any way If we can get rid of these DLCIS on the spokes.i.e to disable them or USE any method which block them to be appearing on spoek routers.(without touching FR switch) I know Must be confusing for majority here ..But .. I AM SURE I WILL GET THE SOLUTION HERE AS WELL. Thanks. From: Cisco Lover Reply-To: Cisco Lover To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: For FR Grus [7:16635] Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 07:06:08 -0400 Hi Guys.. Come with some New Queston.. For eg, our FR switch is setup for Full mesh,But out network is setup as Hub Spoke FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1t=16635 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CHALLENGE PROBLEM (was Re: For FR Grus.... [7:16635]) [7:16681]
I don't think bridge will work on this network because of split horizon. - Original Message - From: Brian To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:51 AM Subject: CHALLENGE PROBLEM (was Re: For FR Grus [7:16635]) [7:16659] On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Cisco Lover wrote: Hi Guys.. Come with some New Queston.. hmm, ok, so your looking for some challenging questions? Ok, I will post one, its got FR in it. First I'll post the problem, followed by the config: THE PROBLEM === Users on DLCI's 200, 224, 201, 225 cannot communicate to eachother. They can talk just fine to the rest of the network, but no packets can pass between them. Later discovery reveals that so long as they are on different layer 3 network addressing, communcation can occur, but if they are on the same network, such as 192.168.3.0, then they cannot communicate What is the problem? I will reply to let everyone know who got the correct answer. Below is the configuration: ! version 11.3 ! interface Ethernet2/0 ip address 192.168.1.242 255.255.255.0 ! interface Serial4/0 no ip address encapsulation frame-relay IETF keepalive 15 frame-relay map bridge 200 broadcast IETF frame-relay map bridge 224 broadcast IETF frame-relay map bridge 201 broadcast IETF frame-relay map bridge 225 broadcast IETF frame-relay lmi-type ansi bridge-group 1 ! interface BVI1 ip address 192.168.3.242 255.255.255.0 secondary ip address 192.168.2.242 255.255.255.0 ! router igrp 1 network 192.1.0.0 network 192.2.0.0 network 193.3.0.0 ! ip classless ! bridge irb bridge 1 protocol ieee bridge 1 route ip ! For eg, our FR switch is setup for Full mesh,But out network is setup as Hub Spoke FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I'm buying / selling used CISCO gear!! email me for a quote Brian Feeny, CCIE #8036 Scarlett Parria [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 318-213-4709 318-213-4701 Netjam, LLC http://www.netjam.net 333 Texas St.VISA/MC/AMEX/COD Suite 1401 30 day warranty Shreveport, LA 71101 Cisco Channel Partner toll free: 866-2NETJAM phone:318-212-0245 fax:318-212-0246 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16681t=16681 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CHALLENGE PROBLEM (was Re: For FR Grus.... [7:16635]) [7:16695]
yeah but he is using irb with a bvi and igrp it is probably a split h issue it creating a loopa - Original Message - From: McCallum, Robert To: 'Donald B Johnson jr' ; Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:26 AM Subject: RE: CHALLENGE PROBLEM (was Re: For FR Grus [7:16635]) [7:16681] you can correct me here if I am wrong but split horizon is only used in distance vector protocols NO??? The problem here without giving the answer is that a router is expected to pass a packet out of an interface which is on its own subnet !! Doesn't compute! What is the routing protocol being used to route ip?? This is where the answer will lye -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 August 2001 17:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CHALLENGE PROBLEM (was Re: For FR Grus [7:16635]) [7:16681] I don't think bridge will work on this network because of split horizon. - Original Message - From: Brian To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:51 AM Subject: CHALLENGE PROBLEM (was Re: For FR Grus [7:16635]) [7:16659] On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Cisco Lover wrote: Hi Guys.. Come with some New Queston.. hmm, ok, so your looking for some challenging questions? Ok, I will post one, its got FR in it. First I'll post the problem, followed by the config: THE PROBLEM === Users on DLCI's 200, 224, 201, 225 cannot communicate to eachother. They can talk just fine to the rest of the network, but no packets can pass between them. Later discovery reveals that so long as they are on different layer 3 network addressing, communcation can occur, but if they are on the same network, such as 192.168.3.0, then they cannot communicate What is the problem? I will reply to let everyone know who got the correct answer. Below is the configuration: ! version 11.3 ! interface Ethernet2/0 ip address 192.168.1.242 255.255.255.0 ! interface Serial4/0 no ip address encapsulation frame-relay IETF keepalive 15 frame-relay map bridge 200 broadcast IETF frame-relay map bridge 224 broadcast IETF frame-relay map bridge 201 broadcast IETF frame-relay map bridge 225 broadcast IETF frame-relay lmi-type ansi bridge-group 1 ! interface BVI1 ip address 192.168.3.242 255.255.255.0 secondary ip address 192.168.2.242 255.255.255.0 ! router igrp 1 network 192.1.0.0 network 192.2.0.0 network 193.3.0.0 ! ip classless ! bridge irb bridge 1 protocol ieee bridge 1 route ip ! For eg, our FR switch is setup for Full mesh,But out network is setup as Hub Spoke FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I'm buying / selling used CISCO gear!! email me for a quote Brian Feeny, CCIE #8036 Scarlett Parria [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 318-213-4709 318-213-4701 Netjam, LLC http://www.netjam.net 333 Texas St.VISA/MC/AMEX/COD Suite 1401 30 day warranty Shreveport, LA 71101 Cisco Channel Partner toll free: 866-2NETJAM phone:318-212-0245 fax:318-212-0246 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16695t=16695 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Training [7:16684]
I have a five year old that could probably teach that ultimate hacking. Cause he is my number one flea. - Original Message - From: John Chang To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:17 AM Subject: Training [7:16684] Ultimate Hacking New York, NY 08/28/01 08/31/01 $3995 San Jose, CA 09/11/01 09/14/01 $3995 Boston, MA 09/18/01 09/21/01 $3995 Irvine, CA 10/08/01 10/11/01 $3995 NT/2000 Security New York, NY 09/25/01 09/27/01 $2500 Irvine, CA 12/11/01 12/13/01 $2500 Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 9/17/2001 Irvine, CA Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 9/24/2001 San Jose, CA Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 10/1/2001 Denver, CO Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 10/8/2001 Phoenix, AZ Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 10/15/2001 Seattle-Bellevue, WA Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 10/22/2001 Salt Lake City, UT Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 10/29/2001 Irvine, CA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16699t=16684 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CHALLENGE PROBLEM (was Re: For FR Grus.... [7:16635]) [7:16701]
yeah you got irb and bvi and igrp on same interface you are creating loops because SH is disabled - Original Message - From: Brian To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:35 AM Subject: Re: CHALLENGE PROBLEM (was Re: For FR Grus [7:16635]) [7:16687] On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Donald B Johnson jr wrote: I don't think bridge will work on this network because of split horizon. Can you be more clear about your answer? Brian - Original Message - From: Brian To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:51 AM Subject: CHALLENGE PROBLEM (was Re: For FR Grus [7:16635]) [7:16659] On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Cisco Lover wrote: Hi Guys.. Come with some New Queston.. hmm, ok, so your looking for some challenging questions? Ok, I will post one, its got FR in it. First I'll post the problem, followed by the config: THE PROBLEM === Users on DLCI's 200, 224, 201, 225 cannot communicate to eachother. They can talk just fine to the rest of the network, but no packets can pass between them. Later discovery reveals that so long as they are on different layer 3 network addressing, communcation can occur, but if they are on the same network, such as 192.168.3.0, then they cannot communicate What is the problem? I will reply to let everyone know who got the correct answer. Below is the configuration: ! version 11.3 ! interface Ethernet2/0 ip address 192.168.1.242 255.255.255.0 ! interface Serial4/0 no ip address encapsulation frame-relay IETF keepalive 15 frame-relay map bridge 200 broadcast IETF frame-relay map bridge 224 broadcast IETF frame-relay map bridge 201 broadcast IETF frame-relay map bridge 225 broadcast IETF frame-relay lmi-type ansi bridge-group 1 ! interface BVI1 ip address 192.168.3.242 255.255.255.0 secondary ip address 192.168.2.242 255.255.255.0 ! router igrp 1 network 192.1.0.0 network 192.2.0.0 network 193.3.0.0 ! ip classless ! bridge irb bridge 1 protocol ieee bridge 1 route ip ! For eg, our FR switch is setup for Full mesh,But out network is setup as Hub Spoke FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I'm buying / selling used CISCO gear!! email me for a quote Brian Feeny, CCIE #8036 Scarlett Parria [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 318-213-4709 318-213-4701 Netjam, LLC http://www.netjam.net 333 Texas St.VISA/MC/AMEX/COD Suite 1401 30 day warranty Shreveport, LA 71101 Cisco Channel Partner toll free: 866-2NETJAM phone:318-212-0245 fax:318-212-0246 I'm buying / selling used CISCO gear!! email me for a quote Brian Feeny, CCIE #8036 Scarlett Parria [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 318-213-4709 318-213-4701 Netjam, LLC http://www.netjam.net 333 Texas St.VISA/MC/AMEX/COD Suite 1401 30 day warranty Shreveport, LA 71101 Cisco Channel Partner toll free: 866-2NETJAM phone:318-212-0245 fax:318-212-0246 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16701t=16701 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
I think that if there is a split, all these questions concerning work should be split out. It is supposed to be about group study not group consulting. Over the time that I have been here there seems to be a growing number of narrowly worded questions to bail someone out at work, and this individual doesn't even seem to consult CCO most of the time, even though they are supporting a Cisco platform. The culture here seems to support and highly respect the intellectual property of others, which I whole-heartedly agree, but it shows a lack of respect for those who consult for a living. I personally like giving so called flames to people who are looking for free consulting work to hide there apparent laziness. Just like everyone chimes in when someone comes here and tries to sell certzone labs gets blasted. I wish that blatant my boss wants me to set up a central frame hub and six spoke network what should I do should get blasted or pointed to place where people can consult for food. Paul any e-mail that has boss in it should get an automated stock reply, check CCO, call cisco, buy gear, have cisco SE set it up, have a nice day. Now I know people are going to say that this is how they learn by posting real world questions and this is true but it is the blatant ones that I am talking about. Oh and keep this in mind that the people answering the these so called learning experiences didn't just know the answer, at some point they had to check CCO, contact Cisco, buy gear, work with Cisco SE, have a nice day. - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217] When I go on vaction I unsubscribe and then subscribe again. Would all my messages go in the moderator's queue when I subscribed again? That would be annoying for the moderator (and for me. ;-) Other than that, I think it's a good idea to have messages from a new subscriber go through the moderator for a while. As I'm sure you have considered, it's not a very scalable idea, though. I hope you don't divide the group again. The general networking questions are helpful to those studying for CCNP and CCDP. The diversity of messages (except for the flames, of course) are good for learning and represent the real world better than if we just got questions about passing scores, etc. Thanks again for all you do for us! Priscilla At 12:02 PM 8/17/01, Paul Borghese wrote: With an open group, you are going to have your share of noise. Everyone's ides of noise is different. For example, to many this very e-mail is noise because it is not directly on subject. But there are some things we can do to help lessen the noise. They are on my to-do list, just have been too busy.: 1. Comprehensive FAQ - we need a new faq that can answer the questions that are asked over and over again. 2. Split out the professional group from the general networking group. 3. Setup a system where new users can not post directly to the group - This is the most difficult of the three ideas and will require substantial coding. What I want is to have a system where when an e-mail arrives (or from the newsfeed or website), if the poster has not been approved, it gets bounced into the moderators queue. If the moderator (actually we will have many) agrees that the message is appropriate, the moderator will allow the message to pass. Plus if the moderator feels that the poster will continue to send interesting and valuable e-mails, the moderator can place the user in the automatic approval category so future e-mails will not need to be approved. The goal is to bounce new messages from first time posters, but allow the old-timers to post without moderation. Thus filtering the new user asking inappropriate questions and the occasional spam. Take care, Paul - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217] Yes, Paul did do a good job cutting down that traffic. I just noticed that in the last month or so there has been a slew of *really* basic questions that can be answered in the first two or three chapters of any decent CCNA study guide or by a 30 second search on CCO. I certainly don't mind answering these types of questions, I was just concerned that the purpose of the two separate lists was being undermined, causing a lot of unnecessary traffic. To me it's no different than posting jobs on the Associate or Professional lists. It may reach some of the right people, but it's not the appropriate place to post that type of information. Tom Lisa 8/15/01 3:19:55 PM Yes, John, there is an Associate list. We have a similar problem there as well. People keep insisting on asking CCNP/CCIE level questions on that list. However, people being the way they are, I
Network Address [7:16573]
Which Protocols suites don't bind a network address to a datalink address. NetBEUI, SNA? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16573t=16573 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cable Based Network enquiry [7:16572]
A lot of that has to do with return plant design, we used to look at it as a number but now we consider nodes that feed an RPR, type of traffic, it really becomes a noise issue, you know the old funneling effect. Miles (of cable, not the guy by the water cooler) and condition of plant should also be in the mix. We also early on only looked at it as a number of HPs but now we factor in different varibles. This is also amplified by the fact that we are running other services in the return, and will continue to add services. This is relevant if you were talking about cable plant, if you were talking about how many pps the memory and processor can dump out the NSI, Nevermind.God I love DOCSIS. - Original Message - From: NKP To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:53 AM Subject: Cable Based Network enquiry [7:16572] Hi everyone , I would like to know if anyone has implemented a cable network on Cisco 7200 series . The main detail I am looking out for is information about the cable modem cards that Cisco provides , how many subscribers can we provide through each port on cable modem card . What are the hardware requirements for the cable solution . thanks in advance -- Navin Parwal Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16591t=16572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
And I agree that this will go on. My message sprang out of what Paul said, that he might split the general networking from the Professional group, and I agree with Priscilla that all are better served if they stay together. I think if anything should get split out it should be work related stuff. Then at least we would have an appropriate place to point them. - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: Donald B Johnson jr ; Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:41 AM Subject: RE: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217] Not that I disagree, Don, but this has been a source of annoyance for many folks for as long as I've been on the list ( around 2 years. ) two points: 1) sometimes some of these work related scenarios provide good learning points 2) people ask these kinds of questions on all the lists, no matter what. The CCIE list would get it's fair share of this kind of question as well. without having the list 100% moderated, with all messages being reviewed, there is no practical way to stop this. and sometimes there is something to be learned that is applicable to one's studies. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donald B Johnson jr Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217] I think that if there is a split, all these questions concerning work should be split out. It is supposed to be about group study not group consulting. Over the time that I have been here there seems to be a growing number of narrowly worded questions to bail someone out at work, and this individual doesn't even seem to consult CCO most of the time, even though they are supporting a Cisco platform. The culture here seems to support and highly respect the intellectual property of others, which I whole-heartedly agree, but it shows a lack of respect for those who consult for a living. I personally like giving so called flames to people who are looking for free consulting work to hide there apparent laziness. Just like everyone chimes in when someone comes here and tries to sell certzone labs gets blasted. I wish that blatant my boss wants me to set up a central frame hub and six spoke network what should I do should get blasted or pointed to place where people can consult for food. Paul any e-mail that has boss in it should get an automated stock reply, check CCO, call cisco, buy gear, have cisco SE set it up, have a nice day. Now I know people are going to say that this is how they learn by posting real world questions and this is true but it is the blatant ones that I am talking about. Oh and keep this in mind that the people answering the these so called learning experiences didn't just know the answer, at some point they had to check CCO, contact Cisco, buy gear, work with Cisco SE, have a nice day. - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217] When I go on vaction I unsubscribe and then subscribe again. Would all my messages go in the moderator's queue when I subscribed again? That would be annoying for the moderator (and for me. ;-) Other than that, I think it's a good idea to have messages from a new subscriber go through the moderator for a while. As I'm sure you have considered, it's not a very scalable idea, though. I hope you don't divide the group again. The general networking questions are helpful to those studying for CCNP and CCDP. The diversity of messages (except for the flames, of course) are good for learning and represent the real world better than if we just got questions about passing scores, etc. Thanks again for all you do for us! Priscilla At 12:02 PM 8/17/01, Paul Borghese wrote: With an open group, you are going to have your share of noise. Everyone's ides of noise is different. For example, to many this very e-mail is noise because it is not directly on subject. But there are some things we can do to help lessen the noise. They are on my to-do list, just have been too busy.: 1. Comprehensive FAQ - we need a new faq that can answer the questions that are asked over and over again. 2. Split out the professional group from the general networking group. 3. Setup a system where new users can not post directly to the group - This is the most difficult of the three ideas and will require substantial coding. What I want is to have a system where when an e-mail arrives (or from the newsfeed or website), if the poster has not been approved, it gets bounced into the moderators queue. If the moderator (actually we will have many) agrees that the message is appropriate, the moderator will allow the message to pass. Plus if the moderator feels that the poster will continue to send interesting
Re: DB60-DB25 Cable Configuration - Urgent [7:16347]
cisco.com - Original Message - From: mishaal To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:02 AM Subject: DB60-DB25 Cable Configuration - Urgent [7:16347] hi all, Does anyone have any info/links on the cable configuration for the DB60-D25 male female, pls don't suggest purchasing one, it's costly enough... tks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16363t=16347 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CISCO Recommended Guidelines [7:16397]
right before I am going to leave on a friday too. I think the only true cisco guideline is to buy their gear exclusively. :) At least that is what our SE keeps telling us. - Original Message - From: Fanglo To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 9:35 AM Subject: CISCO Recommended Guidelines [7:16397] Dear Group, I'm studying CCDA and come across many cisco recommended guideline when test with Boson test. However, I cannot find out the so called guidelines from CISCO's site. Would anyone point out some source in web? TIA, Fanglo Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16416t=16397 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
Answers inline - Original Message - From: Ole Drews Jensen To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:56 PM Subject: RE: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217] A solution to this could be an application dialog with one or more questions like: How do you connect two 2501's back to back? A) With a big screw B) With a DB60-to-DB60 cable C) With super glue D) Connect pin 18 from serial 0 to the power outlet My answer is A B C What do you also need to do after you have connected them? A) Unmount the LED's B) Shorten all pins in the console interface C) Set clock rate on the router configured as DCE D) Execute the command deltree /y c:\windows My answer is D. That is one of those situationalchoose the tricky answer questions Should the applicant get any of these wrong, he/she would be automatically signed up on the Associate list. I'm just kidding of course, but that would probably take care of at least one side of the problem. P.S. Don't try the last solution in question 2 unless you're sick and tired of Windows. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Tom Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 4:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217] Yes, John, there is an Associate list. We have a similar problem there as well. People keep insisting on asking CCNP/CCIE level questions on that list. However, people being the way they are, I doubt we will ever solve the problem completely. But, you got to admit that Paul at least cut down on the volume of CCNA level traffic on this list. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy John Neiberger wrote: Excuse me for this rant. I'm not trying to be the content cop, I just wanted to make an observation. Do we no longer have an Associate list as well as the Professional list? We've been getting horrendous numbers of emails lately that simply do not belong on this list. If you don't know how to connect a PC to a router using the console cable or how to connect two routers back-to-back, it seems to me that you should ask those types of questions on the CCNA-level list, not the CCNP-level list. I'm not intending to come down too hard on people asking these questions, I'm just asking that you post to the appropriate list. The Associate mailing list is intended for the simpler questions, while the Professional list is intended for those with slighly more advanced questions. I understand that we tend to grant a *lot* of leeway when it comes to subject matter, but the level of the question should still be appropriate to the list it's posted to. Okay, enough ranting. :-) Back to our regular programming Regards, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16276t=16217 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching question [7:16284]
What kind of connection to the internet do you have. Dial-up DSL CM ISDN - Original Message - From: newbie newbie To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 7:58 AM Subject: Switching question [7:16284] Hello all. I have a quick question. I am trying to connect to the internet using a switch. I have plug the ethernet cable into port 5 and my lab tops are connected to ports 1 and 3. How do i share the connection using the switch? I know this sounds trivial but I am a newbie at this whole routing stuff. Please let me know Thanks James Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16297t=16284 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco [7:16263]
if you got access to CCO you can access the sim for free Thank You, Donald B Johnson Jr Engineering/Technical Operations Corporate Manager Technical Support Services Adelphia Communications Corp. P# 888-277-6872 support line Pg# 866-690-9276 pager P# 814-260-3259 office F# 814-260-3227 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dave Nachman To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 8:54 AM Subject: Re: cisco [7:16263] SIMS are good, but nothing compares to actual equipment. Try these sites... For purchace, you can get good prices on WWW.ebay.com, or buy direct from a reseller at www.iqsale.com. If you dont' have the cash for real equipment use the Mentor Labs - V-labs @ www.mentorlabs.com Their prices are high, but the service is execlent. You get real equipment to use and specific tasks to complete. Hope this helps. Dave Nachman www.davenetworks.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16306t=16263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apology for: MCSE in 2 Weeks or CCNA/CCDA in 6 days [7:16169]
Hey I just talked to a buddy that just got back from their last class. He said that the camp was awesome and that it ran for over 16 hours everyday for 16 days. He also said that the instructor was a double CCIE that was knowledgeable, patient, and easy to work with. My buddy described it as more of a CCIE lab type training than a CCNP class, echoing your thought about not just covering the esoteric test facts but providing excellent hands-on labs, covering all the phy stuff including modem to modem connections with a tone generator, ISDN, all flavors of serial, and ATM. Of course all the major protocol stuff (RIP, the GRP's, OSPF, IS-IS, AND OF COURSE BGP) including multiple area and AS labs, mutual redistribution, policy based, extended lists both IP and IPX, traffic shaping, DDR, Dial-Backup and the list went on. Another issue; I'm am under the impression that this list is moderated so if it got through anybody can comment on it. So why don't y'all grow some hair and give the moderators an ear full not Jeremy. Yah That'll happen. - Original Message - From: Wright, Jeremy To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: RE: Apology for: MCSE in 2 Weeks or CCNA/CCDA in 6 days [7:16080] I apologize to everyone on the list for the message about the camp. MY MISTAKE. Please note that Bellanca has never made a mistake. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Bellanca Smythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 2:32 PM To: Wright, Jeremy; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Apology for: MCSE in 2 Weeks or CCNA/CCDA in 6 days [7:16076] You receive a message that looks like this: -Original Message- From: Ron Rubens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MCSE in 2 Weeks or CCNA/CCDA in 6 days ** Get your MCSE in 2 Weeks or CCNA / CCDA in 6 days for the lowest price ever. We are blowing out the last seats in our August and September classes. CALL NOW! (800) 330-1446 www.intenseschool.com ** And you think it's from groupstudy? You must really think people on this list are stupid. I think you owe the entire group an apology for your latest directions for those that commented about you spamming the list. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wright, Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:Apology for: MCSE in 2 Weeks or CCNA/CCDA in 6 days [7:16076] I received this message about the bootcamp in my personal email and thought it was from the cisco groupstudy list. So I responded with my comments about the camp to the list, my mistake. Everyone who responded is so uptight. Maybe try having a drink or an enema or somethingit's just a message..I'm sorry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16169t=16169 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lab fee [7:16214]
Why is the lab fee different for each site. Any thoughts Don Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16214t=16214 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lab fee [7:16214]
Just thought that was odd, usually it would be a set fee. But then again would a Brussels national have to pay the tax. I don't know it hurts my brain. I guess some of these countries have Office Consultive of Lab Fee Taxation they probably wear uniforms and have clipboards. - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 12:24 PM Subject: Re: lab fee [7:16214] From CCO: How much does the CCIE Lab Exam cost? The CCIE Lab Exam costs $1250.00 (U.S. Dollars) per candidate, per attempt. Please note that rates may vary due to currency exchange and local taxes. Is that what you're referring to? Or are you getting this information from somewhere else? John Donald B Johnson jr 8/15/01 12:58:16 PM Why is the lab fee different for each site. Any thoughts Don Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16225t=16214 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994]
Could you share your experience with us. What you covered, training methodolgy equipment used, classes taken, things like that. Things that were useful along, wastes of time. Of course with the NDA in mind. Not what was on the test but what you did before you opened the door to the Lab center. - Original Message - From: Johns, John A. To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:57 AM Subject: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Hello all, I would like to thank the people who have contributed to the list, I have used the list for probably two plus years. I passed my CCIE Lab on Friday and really appreciate all the help over the years. Thanks to all who have made this list great. John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16014t=15994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: passed Foundation 640-509.... [7:16006]
Big mistake George, well that depends on what you mean by a long break. I made a huge mistake by taking a long break. I got my CCN/DP on 12/27/00, left BSCN for last so they both fell on the same day. I convinced myself that a little break was in order, so I didn't crack a book until July. It has been a long hard road back to be able to pass the written. You really forget all those little test tid-bits that are so relevant in every day operation. I feel that with two or three weeks of study I could have passed the written if I would of kept the momentum going in Dec. The only redeeming fact from this situation is that I didn't stop labbing out everyday so I will take the lab 6-8 months after passing the written. But it has been a long battle putting all those facts back in my head. So if you are going to pursue your CCIE after obtaining your CCN/DP you may want to get your written before taking a break. Even if you don't want to take the written right away because of the passed Written Must attempt Lab timing thing you should still read so that the information stays current. Ahh I'm rambling!!! - Original Message - From: George Stylianou To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 6:17 AM Subject: passed Foundation 640-509 [7:16006] hi All, I passed the foundation earlier today. Thanks to all for your input. My scores: Routing: 898 Switching: 851 Remote Access: 871 I need a long break now :-))) thanks George George Stylianou Network Engineer (CCNA) Internet Solutions Tel: (+27 11) 283 5427 Cell:(+27 83) 325 6894 Fax: (+27 11) 283 5401 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.is.co.za This e-mail may contain confidential information and may be legally privileged and is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that you may not use, distribute or copy this document in any manner whatsoever. Kindly also notify the sender immediately by telephone, and delete the e-mail. When addressed to clients of the company from where this e-mail originates (the sending company) any opinion or advice contained in this e-mail is subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable terms of business or client engagement letter . The sending company does not accept liability for any damage, loss or expense arising from this e-mail and/or from the accessing of any files attached to this e-mail. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16022t=16006 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994]
Thank You, Donald B Johnson Jr - Original Message - From: Johns, John A. To: 'Donald B Johnson jr' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: RE: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Here is a brief list of some of the important processes for me along my journey * I passed the Written in January 2001. * I took one week long class ANEWII back in May 2001. (Very Good, thanks Steve McQuerry) * I read the All in One study Guide, not bad has about 82 basic labs. * I read the CCIE Lab Practice Kit (6 Case Studies) Long scenarios, not all current (AppleTalk, Decnet) * I spent a week at the University of Pittsburgh, in their CCIE Lab. Pretty good, however they don't give you the answers to their labs. * I spent 3 days in my local Cisco office on their CCIE rack, not as beneficial as I had hoped. * I have some test equipment at work, 4 2500's, 2 2600's, took all the equipment home and spent countless hours practicing. * About 3 weeks before my exam, I purchased the IPExpert Workbook, along with about (6) 12 hour blocks over the course of three weeks. That's it in a very small nutshell... Good luck to each of you, I do believe it is a very worthwhile goal... Thanks, John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ System Engineer The Hillman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Could you share your experience with us. What you covered, training methodolgy equipment used, classes taken, things like that. Things that were useful along, wastes of time. Of course with the NDA in mind. Not what was on the test but what you did before you opened the door to the Lab center. - Original Message - From: Johns, John A. To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:57 AM Subject: Thanks to all who have contributed... [7:15994] Hello all, I would like to thank the people who have contributed to the list, I have used the list for probably two plus years. I passed my CCIE Lab on Friday and really appreciate all the help over the years. Thanks to all who have made this list great. John A. Johns, CCIE #7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. The information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail is confidential. It is intended only for the individual or entity so designated above. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or the use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient(s) designated above is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (412) 338-3535. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16043t=15994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2501 router... [7:14553]
Hey there its Mr Mellow. I wasn't talking to you I thought you only got fired up when provoked. O, and mellow, that spelling thing bounces of me and sticks to you cause I rubber and you are glue. hillarious - Original Message - From: nrf To: Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: Re: 2501 router... [7:14553] Once again, wonderful brilliant commentary from the esteemed Mr. Johnson. We are so graced by the presence of you and your brilliant commentary. Why is it exactly that you feel the need to get off by biting other people's heads off (and doing so by using 2nd-grade level spelling skills, if you remember our last exchange)? When are you going to wake up and realize that you, sir, are an ass, always have been an ass, and always will be an ass? Donald B Johnson jr wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... If you have been here a year and don't know: a. how to research on cco b. how to check the archives c. how to connect to console d. how to change password e. that you should read a book you purchased that probably has both answers f. that there is a ccna group g. that this is helpful h. that I'm a smart a** then are we to believe that you are going to crimp a roll cable. Or are you going to build that by taking the plastic off. - Original Message - From: Schmelzer Tim L Contr 12 CPTS/FMS To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: 2501 router... [7:14553] Greetings all. I'm kinda new to this game, but have been lurking here for about a year now. I have just been given a 2501 series router and now have a few questions. How do I build a console cable to connect to it? How do I clear any passwords that will be present? Is there somewhere that I can get scenarios / lab situations to practice on this router? I have purchased Todd Lammle's CCNA book and look forward to using this router with my studies. Thanks in advance for any answers, T. Schmelzer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15854t=14553 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad experiences with IQSale aka Grandstore ..... [7:15756]
Agreed, and contact your States Attorney Generals office if they are in a different state you may also want to contact both your and the originating states AG's office. Like Jon said these guys like to mobilize. Worked for me on a third party car warrenty. You may also think about small claims court in your local area, and have a judgement entered. - Original Message - From: Jon Krabbenschmidt To: Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:18 AM Subject: RE: Bad experiences with IQSale aka Grandstore . [7:15756] I would also contact the District Attorney's Office in the area that they operate. If you have never contacted a DA's office you may be surprised at how responsive and aggressive they are. Jon -Original Message- From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bad experiences with IQSale aka Grandstore . [7:15756] After talking to a couple of other people, I've found that I'm not the only one having problem getting refund from IQSale aka Grandstore , with a couple of other names For myself, I was promised a refund way back in late May and after numerous emails, on 4th July, promised to get back to me with details on the refund and till today is waiting for the cheque. My emails to them after 4th July was ignored. I'm planning to set up a web pages with testimonies about the problems we have with this company and also, if it has since been resolved, how long it took and the steps he or she has to take before the company would resolve the issue or refund I have filed a complaint with BBB and is considering filing a complaint with USPS for mail fraud as well. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15858t=15756 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some Study and Preparation Advice [7:15758]
Excellent advice as always Chuck, and if I may be so bold as to add, try it before you ask. You learn more out of your failures than your successes. You also learn how to broaden your scope, which will be necessary for your lab, and I hope that is why we are here. Password recovery is an example; there is always a question on this list about it. Anybody that would tell someone how to recover from an unknown password is not helping the person. You are even stretching it by telling them about CCO in my opinion. By not helping people in this way you set the groundwork for that person learning how to find the answer they need. If this were not an important and needed skill they would not give you a CD when you sit your lab. Again learning what doesn't work is equally important to a successful sit at the lab, reason being that the lab is such a time intensive exercise. So knowing what doesn't work will save time and will prove invaluable in the methodology part of the lab not just the mechanics. I feel that if there weren't such an impetus on time during the lab the first time success rate would jump dramatically, say 10-15%. Also for those who are one-day'ers myself included, I think time will factor in even more. Execution, execution execution..won't be much time to go down the gilded path. - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:22 AM Subject: Some Study and Preparation Advice [7:15758] A recommended good practice / good habit all those pursuing certification probably should begin to cultivate: familiarize yourself with the contents of the Cisco technical documents page. as you strive for higher and higher levels of certification, you will find it invaluable to have read as much of this stuff as you can, and to know how and where to find things about which you are unsure. the design guides, the configuration guide, and the command references are all there, and should be the first place you look for answers. admittedly, this can be difficult on dial up lines. DSL or cable modem is a great help. Another help is access to a laser printer, so you can print out a lot of this stuff. makes general reading a lot easier. one person with whom I correspond prints things out on paper with pre-punched holes, making it easier to organize things into binders. so bookmark the following link: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/home/home.htm it will serve you well in your certification and professional pursuits. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15862t=15758 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: e0 on 4000-m router [7:15861]
They are the same interface - Original Message - From: Vik To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:35 AM Subject: e0 on 4000-m router [7:15861] I have a Cisco 4000 with 2 serial, 1 token ring and 2 ethernet interface. However, when a show interfaces command is executed, there is only one ethernet interface shown. On the back of the router where the ethernet ports are, one is a typical 10baseT, RJ-45 connection, but the other is AUI which I do not have a transceiver for; I just have a CAT5 cable from the 10baseT connector going to my switch. When I do a show interfaces command, ethernet 0 is up, but the protocol is down. On my swith I do not see any activity lights for that port, so I am thinking that my e0 is actually the AUI port. How do I use the 10baseT interface? -- Vik Evans - MCSE, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: (602) 677-8214 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15868t=15861 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic: Cisco Price List [7:15883]
Thats impossible or highly not recommended, most of us here work for a partner and pricing has a lot to do with your partner status. A general price list could be obtained by Cisco. They will be happy to send someone out. - Original Message - From: Shahir Boshra To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:17 AM Subject: Off Topic: Cisco Price List [7:15883] Hello Group, Sorry for the Off topic posting, but I desperately need an updated Cisco price list. Can anyone please send it offline? Thanks in advance Shahir Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15890t=15883 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Figuring out Config Register Values [7:15894]
I believe 2141 will boot from network ignoring nvram 102 will boot from flash using nv 2142 will boot from flash ignoring nv 2102 same as 102 forget what the 2 means - Original Message - From: Ray Smith To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: Figuring out Config Register Values [7:15894] I have been searching high and low on Cisco's website for information on how to figure out the hexidecimal values of various Config-Register. Example, 0x2141, 0x102, 0x2142, 0x2102 etc. I would like to know how to figure out the bit value and be able to tell what each value is trying to accomplish just by looking at them. If anyone out there can help please do. Thank you _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15909t=15894 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2501 router... [7:14553]
If we sit the lab the same day please beat me up afterwards, I dont want to bleed on the routers. - Original Message - From: nrf To: Donald B Johnson jr Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 12:42 PM Subject: Re: 2501 router... [7:14553] One other thing. You shouldn't go around talking like you want to start a fight, and then be surprised when somebody actually takes you up on the offer. I know your title, where you work, and your work phone number. I'm not saying I'm going to peel on over, but I'm just warning you that if you continue to flame people like that, one day you're going to get your ass seriously kicked; if not by me, then by somebody else. - Original Message - From: Donald B Johnson jr To: nrf ; Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:32 AM Subject: Re: 2501 router... [7:14553] Hey there its Mr Mellow. I wasn't talking to you I thought you only got fired up when provoked. O, and mellow, that spelling thing bounces of me and sticks to you cause I rubber and you are glue. hillarious - Original Message - From: nrf To: Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: Re: 2501 router... [7:14553] Once again, wonderful brilliant commentary from the esteemed Mr. Johnson. We are so graced by the presence of you and your brilliant commentary. Why is it exactly that you feel the need to get off by biting other people's heads off (and doing so by using 2nd-grade level spelling skills, if you remember our last exchange)? When are you going to wake up and realize that you, sir, are an ass, always have been an ass, and always will be an ass? Donald B Johnson jr wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... If you have been here a year and don't know: a. how to research on cco b. how to check the archives c. how to connect to console d. how to change password e. that you should read a book you purchased that probably has both answers f. that there is a ccna group g. that this is helpful h. that I'm a smart a** then are we to believe that you are going to crimp a roll cable. Or are you going to build that by taking the plastic off. - Original Message - From: Schmelzer Tim L Contr 12 CPTS/FMS To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: 2501 router... [7:14553] Greetings all. I'm kinda new to this game, but have been lurking here for about a year now. I have just been given a 2501 series router and now have a few questions. How do I build a console cable to connect to it? How do I clear any passwords that will be present? Is there somewhere that I can get scenarios / lab situations to practice on this router? I have purchased Todd Lammle's CCNA book and look forward to using this router with my studies. Thanks in advance for any answers, T. Schmelzer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15940t=14553 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TCP/IP [7:15213]
So does this card come with a preconfigured address. - Original Message - From: Michael R. Eckhoff To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:09 PM Subject: Re: TCP/IP [7:15213] Not quite true. TCP/IP CAN be done in silicon. However, it's not a good idea to do this. The reason being is that if you have a bug in your stack, you gotta toss the whole card. These are called Layer 3 network cards, and are being used in some cases to speed up some server stuff. Generally, however, I think they're a crock and not worth it. TCP isn't THAT much overhead. Mike Donald B Johnson jr wrote: Why - It is called software because it is. Explain - Cause you can't carry it in a bag like a piece of hardware. Think of how light your carry-on at the airport would be, if all you had in there was TCP/IP. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:45 PM Subject: TCP/IP [7:15213] Dear all Pls tell me Why TCP/IP is call software and explain Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15452t=15213 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]
Yeah that is what I need your wife (boss) and my wife (boss) teaming up on me. Next thing you know my CCIE lab is for sale on e-bay the whole kit for a song-and-dance. :( On a serious note it is All about ROI, you know that the more experience/certs you have the more money you can make. Also most of the stuff you buy can be tax deductable if purchased with the intent of furthering your career. (You get so much per year tax credit) Also I donate alot of stuff to the local library which is another deduction. ( Have someone inventory it with the prices, say list price on a book you donate and have the person sign it). You can get 50% percent purchase price back, ex. A sybex CCNA study guide for 49.95 will net you a twenty five dollar tax deductable donation. And the libabry is more than happy to receive these kind of materials. So save your reciepts and donation inventories and bring them to your tax man you will be plesently surprised. You can't resell the testing software or the czone labs and subscription but any hardware you buy you will get back your money if you decide to sell it later. Ex the PA-A1- OC3MM and NM-16A cards I bought last month for 1,000$ will easily sell for that much or more on e-bay after I pass my lab. So really it is an investment not an expense. I recently put about 2000$ on ABIZ at 81/2 it is currently 41/4 so I am going to see a better return on the cards than the stock short term. If you explain this to your wife you may be surprised at the cooperation you recieve, if not just tell her Trust me in a year or two you'll be able to buy all the shoes you want :) - Original Message - From: Bolton, Travis To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:42 AM Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Sounds like a fair assumption. So if I do that can I have my wife call you??? :) -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:03 PM To: Bolton, Travis; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] I would buy both just to wear down the wife. Wait till you have to put some ATM, ISDN or Voice in your life. That is when you need the fancy dance. - Original Message - From: Bolton, Travis To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Team, If you had a choice between getting a 6 month subscription to Certificationzone.com or buying all three of the Boson Exams which would you do if you had to choose one? I'll have to try to convince the boss (wife) one or the other to purchase :-) Thanks. Regards, Travis Bolton Network Engineer II CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15474t=15318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Router spec [7:15471]
It also depends on what you are going to use the serial connections for if they are going to be t1s then I would recommend a PA-MC-T3. That is a multichannel T3 card that can be broken down into 28 individual T1's or any combo there of. Of course PA puts you somewhere in the 7xxx range. If you are going to start adding FE's then you want a 75xx range. The FEs are sweet and they have a way of adding themselves that would be a PA-FE-TX or PA-2FEISL-TX. If you need the serial for frame I would recommend PA-4T+ spread over 2 VIP2-50's or VIP4-50's. If you are going to use the FE's for alot of traffic, multicasting and the such looks like you should grab a 7507. Might as well go for the RSP2 unless you want to go for the RSP4+. Review 1 7507 1 RSP4+ 3 VIP4-50's 4 PA-4T+'S 2 PA-FE-TX/FX's that leaves two open slots for frame relay config 1 7505 1 RSP2 2 VIP2-50 1 PA-MC-T3 2 PA-FE-TX/FX's that leaves two open slots and one open port adapter slot next to the MC for T1 config I did not get into memory but go middle of the road. might as well throw in a CON-SNT-PKGxx and dont forget power, either PWR/7-DC or PWR/7-AC or and remember with the PWR/7-AC the power cord is always free. Don Johnson CSTTS - Consultant and Salesman To The Stars. - Original Message - From: Thad Gaston To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: RE: Router spec [7:15471] Patrick, Not knowing requirements and budget numbers. I would point you in the direction of the 7200 and 7500 series routers. Regards -Original Message- From: Patrick Donlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Router spec [7:15471] I'm after a rough spec for a router, so far all I know is that it will need to support 13 serial interfaces of approx 2mb each, with a small number of FE ports. I know it's not much info' but suggestions will probably narrow down the research cheers Pat Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15502t=15471 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]
Yeah buy one piece and play with it for awhile them move on - Original Message - From: Bolton, Travis To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:16 AM Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Sounds like you've got this all thought out. I'll try to influence her based on these replies. Just don't want to get into debt up to my head. Guess I'll have to buy it piece by piece. Just wished I started doing that 10 years ago. Thanks for your input it's really appreciated. Wish I could get a advancement from a company to buy these things. -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 1:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bolton, Travis Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Yeah that is what I need your wife (boss) and my wife (boss) teaming up on me. Next thing you know my CCIE lab is for sale on e-bay the whole kit for a song-and-dance. :( On a serious note it is All about ROI, you know that the more experience/certs you have the more money you can make. Also most of the stuff you buy can be tax deductable if purchased with the intent of furthering your career. (You get so much per year tax credit) Also I donate alot of stuff to the local library which is another deduction. ( Have someone inventory it with the prices, say list price on a book you donate and have the person sign it). You can get 50% percent purchase price back, ex. A sybex CCNA study guide for 49.95 will net you a twenty five dollar tax deductable donation. And the libabry is more than happy to receive these kind of materials. So save your reciepts and donation inventories and bring them to your tax man you will be plesently surprised. You can't resell the testing software or the czone labs and subscription but any hardware you buy you will get back your money if you decide to sell it later. Ex the PA-A1- OC3MM and NM-16A cards I bought last month for 1,000$ will easily sell for that much or more on e-bay after I pass my lab. So really it is an investment not an expense. I recently put about 2000$ on ABIZ at 81/2 it is currently 41/4 so I am going to see a better return on the cards than the stock short term. If you explain this to your wife you may be surprised at the cooperation you recieve, if not just tell her Trust me in a year or two you'll be able to buy all the shoes you want :) - Original Message - From: Bolton, Travis To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:42 AM Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Sounds like a fair assumption. So if I do that can I have my wife call you??? :) -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:03 PM To: Bolton, Travis; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] I would buy both just to wear down the wife. Wait till you have to put some ATM, ISDN or Voice in your life. That is when you need the fancy dance. - Original Message - From: Bolton, Travis To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Team, If you had a choice between getting a 6 month subscription to Certificationzone.com or buying all three of the Boson Exams which would you do if you had to choose one? I'll have to try to convince the boss (wife) one or the other to purchase :-) Thanks. Regards, Travis Bolton Network Engineer II CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15509t=15318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]
Listen if you ATM ISDN and VOICE you got girlfriends. Or significant others. The PC version. I just had a short discussion yesterday with a CCIE who used ISDN from a provider not an emulator and he said that it worked out great. Something like a couple hundred bucks for setup and 30 a month for two B's x's 2 connections equal 60 dollars. You can pick up a WIC-1B-S/T or U for about 100$ That takes some of the sting out of ISDN. We might have to take that out of the list of homewreakers and girl getters. :) - Original Message - From: Guy Russell To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:13 AM Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] I can take care of the ISDN equipment, maybe we can get a pool going... I will settle for tuesdays and thursdays... LOL.. - Original Message - From: Wilson, Bradley To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Careful what you wish for... ;-) -Original Message- From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Hell, I would trade my girlfriend in for some ATM, ISDN, and Voice equipment -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] I would buy both just to wear down the wife. Wait till you have to put some ATM, ISDN or Voice in your life. That is when you need the fancy dance. - Original Message - From: Bolton, Travis To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Team, If you had a choice between getting a 6 month subscription to Certificationzone.com or buying all three of the Boson Exams which would you do if you had to choose one? I'll have to try to convince the boss (wife) one or the other to purchase :-) Thanks. Regards, Travis Bolton Network Engineer II CCNP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15511t=15318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]
yeah it used to be a Dodge Duster or a GTO back in the late 70's now I'm trying to impress them with a NM-2V. I must have onset. The Danish in me is surely crying for Valhalla - Original Message - From: Leigh Anne Chisholm To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:19 PM Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] No no no no no Duck! You got that **ALL WRONG**!!! If you got ATM, ISDN, and VOICE, you got NO girlfriends NOR significant others because they've left you. Your toys are too expensive and you spend too much time with them! The exception to this rule is unless their name happens to be Priscilla O., Leigh Anne (me), Jennifer Cribbs, Debbie Becker, or Natasha. Then you'd want to leave us because we'd fight all the time. It's **MY** router, dear! (-: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donald B Johnson jr Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Listen if you ATM ISDN and VOICE you got girlfriends. Or significant others. The PC version. I just had a short discussion yesterday with a CCIE who used ISDN from a provider not an emulator and he said that it worked out great. Something like a couple hundred bucks for setup and 30 a month for two B's x's 2 connections equal 60 dollars. You can pick up a WIC-1B-S/T or U for about 100$ That takes some of the sting out of ISDN. We might have to take that out of the list of homewreakers and girl getters. :) - Original Message - From: Guy Russell To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:13 AM Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] I can take care of the ISDN equipment, maybe we can get a pool going... I will settle for tuesdays and thursdays... LOL.. - Original Message - From: Wilson, Bradley To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Careful what you wish for... ;-) -Original Message- From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Hell, I would trade my girlfriend in for some ATM, ISDN, and Voice equipment -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] I would buy both just to wear down the wife. Wait till you have to put some ATM, ISDN or Voice in your life. That is when you need the fancy dance. - Original Message - From: Bolton, Travis To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Team, If you had a choice between getting a 6 month subscription to Certificationzone.com or buying all three of the Boson Exams which would you do if you had to choose one? I'll have to try to convince the boss (wife) one or the other to purchase :-) Thanks. Regards, Travis Bolton Network Engineer II CCNP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15541t=15318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Books for sale! (Cheap)!!!!! [7:15117]
Lance those little bluey thingies are called links. You got to click on them with your mouse. - Original Message - From: Lance To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Cisco Books for sale! (Cheap)! [7:15117] Are you trying to tell me that the 750 Page second edition book that is for sale is the same as the 22 Page Pdf file that is on the Cisco site that you directed me to. www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/index.htm Uhh...I don't think so ;-) Lance JC wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I am selling the following books from my collection: 1) All-IN-ONE CCIE Study Guide (Second Edition) by Rosevelt Giles I'm selling this one for $40.00 plus shipping. 2) Firewalls 24 Seven by Sybex. I'm selling this one for $40.00 plus shipping. 3) Mastering Cisco Routers. I'm selling this one for $35.00 Plus shipping. 4) Internetworking Technologies Handbook (2nd edition) by Cisco Press. I'm selling this one for $25.00 plus shipping. I also have a Wave Technologies Windows 2000 box set which includes the following: 1) Windows 2000 Skills Update. 2) Windows 2000 Services. 3) Windows 2000 Active Directory. 4) Windows 2000 Distributed Management. 5) Cd containing simulation exercises and testing software. I'm selling this box set for $75.00 plus shipping. This price is super low. I have two other Microsoft Selections for those interested: A) Windows 2000 Server for Exam 70-215 by Sybex I'm selling this one for $35.00 plus shipping. B) NT 4.0 Box set which includes the following: 1) Networking Essentials 2) Supporting Windows NT Server in the Enterprise 3) Windows NT Network Administration. 4) Windows NT Technical Support. 5) 120 day evaluation copies of NT 4.0 server, and workstation. 6) Multimedia step by step configuration excercises and challenges. Im selling this box set for $75.00 plus shipping. If you are interested in any of these books please e-mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I complete all of my book sales through Paypal, and deliver the books out the first business day after payment. These books are in mint condition. Why pay more when you can buy used and get the same thing. Thanks, JC Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15261t=15117 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TCP/IP [7:15213]
Why - It is called software because it is. Explain - Cause you can't carry it in a bag like a piece of hardware. Think of how light your carry-on at the airport would be, if all you had in there was TCP/IP. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:45 PM Subject: TCP/IP [7:15213] Dear all Pls tell me Why TCP/IP is call software and explain Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15262t=15213 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I need help [7:15226]
I think I'm running 3.67 but here is an e-mail anyway. - Original Message - From: Irfan Shahab To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:18 AM Subject: I need help [7:15226] Hi Guys I just installed Boson 3.88, but after installation my computer is behaving in a bizarre way. Since this is the only software i installed since this funky behaviour, i doubt that this could be the problem, if anyone of u including boson guys have 3.84, kindly email me. Thanks _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15266t=15226 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: improve lan speed ? [7:15225]
thanks Elvis, I was wondering why the price of model rockets has quadrupled over the last two years. It must be because everyone is migrating from 10 to 100 Mbps, hence the shortage of balsa wood. But you know all engineers have a special affinity for balsa so we will pay anything. Don - Original Message - From: Elvis Costello To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: re: improve lan speed ? [7:15225] [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] This is tricky but try the following: Go to your local store and buy some super glue. Apply a generous amount of superglue to NIC A and affix it to NIC B. This (1/2)+(1/2) methodology will yield one full duplex combo card (please do not get greedy and try this with more than two NICs as your KITTY 5 wire may begin to melt). But wait, there's more -- The 10 to 100 transition is even easier, just look on the side of your NIC for the Spoiler upgrade slot. While I am far too addle-minded to understand the complex aerodynamic issues involved, I have been told by my good friend H. Simpson that the spoiler upgrade allows the card to transfer data at a far faster rate without subjecting your server to the risk of becoming unstable and possibly flipping over right in the middle of your datacenter. This is what the old people used to call an abend (and it it most frightening for all but the most grizzled NOC vets). Using some of the glue leftover from step 1, obtain and apply a Spoiler (preferably made out of balsa wood) to the new and improved nic combo card and then place it back in the machine. You will soon be well on your way to packet nirvana. .. how to change from half duplex to full duplex, and how to change NIC from 10 to 100 This email was sent through the free email service at http://www.anonymous.to/ To report misuse of this service, please contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15268t=15225 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fifth one today [7:15269]
This is the fifth once-in -a-lifetime offer I got today. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:39 AM Subject: BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR! [7:15233] AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV: Making over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars expense one time THANK'S TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET! == BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before you say Bull, please read the following. This is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal. Their findings proved once and for all that there are absolutely NO Laws prohibiting the participation in the program and if people can follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega bucks with only $25 out of pocket cost. DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER. This is what one had to say: Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times before but each time I passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received a total of $610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in. Pam Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. === Here is another testimonial: This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day when I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and walaa . 3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT change anything. More testimonials later but first, = PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTURE REFERENCE == $ If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months easily and comfortably, please read the following...THEN READ IT AGAIN and AGAIN!!! $ FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME TRUE, GUARANTEED! INSTRUCTIONS: =Order all 5 reports shown on the list below = For each report, send $5 CASH, THE NAME NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems. === When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on your computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00. Within a few days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer. IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than what is instructed below in step 1 through 6 or you will loose out on majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work !!! People have tried to put their friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!! 1 After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name address of the person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune. 2 Move the name address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5. 3 Move the name address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4. 4 Move the name address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3. 5 Move the name address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2 6 Insert YOUR name address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE
Re: CCNA exam [7:15284]
Why would a 14 year old take an exam. I don't think you can agree to the NDA. But good luck, let us know how you do. I would recommend the Boson tests #1 that should do you fine and fit in your budget - Original Message - From: Artashes Kalantarian To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:23 AM Subject: CCNA exam [7:15284] Hi All I am new to this newsgroup I am 14 and I am going to take the CCNA exam on the middle of this month. Can anybody suggest me tests that I can use for checking my knowledge? Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15295t=15284 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15355]
A few reasons why you would want to know the binary is vlsm summary routes and wildcard masking that is without even thinking. cisco is a sales company so of course there tool is The purpose of this tool is to provide a way to calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing such calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and decimal numbers. marvelous, :) but they failed to mention that once you know binary you will be able to use the tool. And if they were so commited they would't allow cidr notation when configuring they mask for an address. if you look at an address in an output 24.48.45.130/26 now what do you do. - Original Message - From: Ken To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15306] This is a study group so I have a question for which I need some education. I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The question I have is of what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared to just using a program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is to produce a plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device on the network or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing this manually? It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the arrival at the destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the least source of error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool is to provide a way to calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing such calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and decimal numbers. So what is it I am not understanding? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15355t=15355 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA exam [7:15284]
By no means was i discouraging you from taking the test. Definite take.You can go in and sign the NDA and ethically you should hold to it and not break it. People will appreciate that on this list. But you may not be certified. Which opens up a whole can of worms. I know Cisco Net Academy High school candidates that have taken the test before 18 makes you think... The reason being you can't enter a contractual agreement under 18 years old in the USA can you? There are some old lawyers on here :) maybe they could advise. You may be in a different country than US so I would find out what it all means in your locale. I would hate to see you, at 14, pay Cisco's cash cow 100 US dollars (that is the price these days I think) and then have them tell you, you aint certified. - Original Message - From: Brian To: Donald B Johnson jr ; Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 8:25 AM Subject: Re: CCNA exam [7:15284] You can visit www.boson.com there are exams you can download, each has a free demo, typicslly 12 questions. You can either stick with that, or tap some small resources for the full exams, which typically are a couple hundred questions for 25-30 bux. Brian - Original Message - From: Donald B Johnson jr To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 8:22 AM Subject: Re: CCNA exam [7:15284] Why would a 14 year old take an exam. I don't think you can agree to the NDA. But good luck, let us know how you do. I would recommend the Boson tests #1 that should do you fine and fit in your budget - Original Message - From: Artashes Kalantarian To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:23 AM Subject: CCNA exam [7:15284] Hi All I am new to this newsgroup I am 14 and I am going to take the CCNA exam on the middle of this month. Can anybody suggest me tests that I can use for checking my knowledge? Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15363t=15284 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]
I would buy both just to wear down the wife. Wait till you have to put some ATM, ISDN or Voice in your life. That is when you need the fancy dance. - Original Message - From: Bolton, Travis To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] Team, If you had a choice between getting a 6 month subscription to Certificationzone.com or buying all three of the Boson Exams which would you do if you had to choose one? I'll have to try to convince the boss (wife) one or the other to purchase :-) Thanks. Regards, Travis Bolton Network Engineer II CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15367t=15318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]
doesn't that do what cisco calls a soft-overlay bringing a config out of start and placing it in run will only change effected parameters and add new ones but will leave everything else in run alone so if no parameters are in start then it will not overlay or effect and running parameters been a while too I will try tonight - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:00 AM Subject: RE: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247] I don't have anything to try on right now, but it occurs to me that this might work: erase start copy start run in theory, at least. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Albert Lu Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247] Hello group, A quick question. What is the quickest way to reload a router to it's default config. I use erase nvram and then reload. Is there a way of doing this without doing the reload which can take a long while. Thanks Albert _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15370t=15247 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Books for sale! (Cheap)!!!!! [7:15117]
1 is bad and 4 can be downloaded from the web site for free. - Original Message - From: Ole Drews Jensen To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:53 AM Subject: RE: Cisco Books for sale! (Cheap)! [7:15117] I hate to say this JC, but books 2 and 3 can be purchased new and cheaper from Booksamillion.com. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: JC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco Books for sale! (Cheap)! [7:15117] Hello, I am selling the following books from my collection: 1) All-IN-ONE CCIE Study Guide (Second Edition) by Rosevelt Giles I'm selling this one for $40.00 plus shipping. 2) Firewalls 24 Seven by Sybex. I'm selling this one for $40.00 plus shipping. 3) Mastering Cisco Routers. I'm selling this one for $35.00 Plus shipping. 4) Internetworking Technologies Handbook (2nd edition) by Cisco Press. I'm selling this one for $25.00 plus shipping. I also have a Wave Technologies Windows 2000 box set which includes the following: 1) Windows 2000 Skills Update. 2) Windows 2000 Services. 3) Windows 2000 Active Directory. 4) Windows 2000 Distributed Management. 5) Cd containing simulation exercises and testing software. I'm selling this box set for $75.00 plus shipping. This price is super low. I have two other Microsoft Selections for those interested: A) Windows 2000 Server for Exam 70-215 by Sybex I'm selling this one for $35.00 plus shipping. B) NT 4.0 Box set which includes the following: 1) Networking Essentials 2) Supporting Windows NT Server in the Enterprise 3) Windows NT Network Administration. 4) Windows NT Technical Support. 5) 120 day evaluation copies of NT 4.0 server, and workstation. 6) Multimedia step by step configuration excercises and challenges. Im selling this box set for $75.00 plus shipping. If you are interested in any of these books please e-mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I complete all of my book sales through Paypal, and deliver the books out the first business day after payment. These books are in mint condition. Why pay more when you can buy used and get the same thing. Thanks, JC Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15124t=15117 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
