OT: Test post #3

[Jason]

Sorry for the tests, my posts are getting dropped.

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Re: Test post #3

[Jason]

I had to change my posting name and email to get through.  Anyone know why
all the sudden I'd be getting blocked/filtered?

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SBI/PacBell "Basic" ADSL PVCs?

[Jason]

Here's what I just sent off to PacBell's support team, but I'm sure I'll
have to battle their live tech support personnel to get in touch with an
engineer who can answer this (if someone else knows, that'd be great as my
ATM knowledge is limited to configuring a few 1417 ADSL CPE routers):

Up until this point the customer has connected with their Westel Wirespeed
using the EnterNet 300 software. However, we're moving to a new platform for
VPN support and security:

I'm configuring a Cisco 1720 router with an ADSL interface card for a
customer with Basic ADSL which uses PPPoE. The Cisco 1720 supports PPPoE
authentication, but I first need more ATM info. What PVC information should
I configure for the router? I've tried 0/35 & 8/35 (the two standard PVCs I
know about for Enhanced ADSL), but neither get me past Layer 2 ATM.

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As a side note, here's the base config I used on the 1720 and also on an
827-4v for my personal static "Enhanced" ADSL connection (no need for PPPoE,
and PVC 0/35 worked):

bridge irb
!
!
!
interface ATM0
 no ip address
 no ip route-cache
 no ip mroute-cache
 atm vc-per-vp 256
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
 pvc 0/35
 !
 dsl operating-mode auto
 no fair-queue
 bridge-group 1
!
interface FastEthernet0
 ip address 192.168.45.172 255.255.255.0
 speed auto
!
interface BVI1
!  I configure a static MAC so that I don't have to wait
!  for the PBI router's ARP table to
!  clear out when I change routers
 mac-address .0c85.8f1c
 ip address 63.206.176.162 255.255.255.248
!
ip classless
!
bridge 1 protocol ieee
 bridge 1 route ip


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Re: Modem to Console Port

[Jason]

All good advice, but at the least issue 'disable' when you're done so that
privileged commands cannot be issued, and use exec-timeout in case you get
bumped off your phone line and can't get back in right away.

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""Chris Lemagie"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> John brought one thing to light that I forgot to mention earlier.
>
> By connecting a modem to the router, you are opening a security hole into
> your network.  Make sure to set a timeout on the console port so that when
a
> user hangs up, the console session will timeout and another user can't
come
> in behind you and grab your console session.  You may also want to have
> somebody at a remote branch physically unplug the phone cable from your
> router after you have completed any configuration changes.  Better yet,
> control access to your routers with Cisco Secure ACS.  You can then set
> privilege levels on a user by user basis as well as logging access to your
> networking infrastructure.
>
> Hope this helps...
>
> Chris Lemagie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Chris Lemagie
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:18 AM
> To: John; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Modem to Console Port
>
>
> It is possible.
>
> There is actually no configuration on the router.  You will need to set
the
> modem to talk at 9600, 8, N, 1 with no local echo.  You also need to set
the
> modem to auto answer.  Your modem should have documentation with the
proper
> "AT" commands that you will need to issue.  Save this configuration to the
> modems NVRAM and plug it into the router.
>
> Chris Lemagie...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> John
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:51 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Modem to Console Port
>
>
> Is is possible to connect a modem to the console port for remote
> configuration on the Cisco 1600 series?
>
> If so would you please provide me with a sample configuration?
>
> Thank you in advance for your assistance.
>
> John Huston
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Re: Telnet to PIX outside interface

[Jason]

This is by design for security reasons.  The insecure solution is to provide
a conduit for telnet to a terminal server device on the inside (i.e. router,
switch, something that can accept telnet and then allow you to telnet from
the device), and once telnetted to it, telnet to the inside interface of the
PIX.

The more secure solution would be to have a SSH2 server on the inside for a
secure connection through the PIX, and then SSH to the PIX (or telnet from
the SSH2 server if the inside is fully trusted).

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> Hello,
>
> I've got a 3640 router and PIX, running IPSec in
> between. Everything works fine except I can't telnet
> from 3640 to PIX outside interface. Any idea?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Jim
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Re: Ip address sweep

[Jason]

nmap will do the same thing and more.  You can specify the ports and ip
range you wish to scan for.

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> I know on Linux there's a samba utility that let's you scan for connected
> machines.
> I think it's called Komba.  http://freshmeat.net should have a link for
> download.  On NT I know Internet Security Scanner (ISS) would do the same
> thing...
>
> Nigel.
>
>
> From: Robert Nickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:26 AM
> Subject: Ip address sweep
>
>
> > sorry to be off the subject but does anyone know how to discover devices
> on
> > a certain subnet with NT and or Linux.(a utility or command that will
let
> me
> > know whats on my LAN (ip addresses) Ip sweep
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Bob
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Re: PCAnywhere problem with ISDN Connection

[Jason]

VNC can be tunneled through SSH2, which fixes any security problems.  Not an
all-in-one solution like pcAnywhere, but it works for my needs.

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> VNC is solid, but it's not secure. I don't think it's a good idea to use
an
> insecure program like VNC to access something as sensitive as an SMS
console
> from outside the firewall. It only takes one smart technician and a
protocol
> analyzer to compromise your network. SSH is definitely a good way to
secure
> it, but it suffers on performance.
>
> > I concur.  I used VNC all of last week to take
> > remote control of a system 2000 miles away.
> > It was rock solid.  I even got into an SMS
> > console, and used its remote control through
> > the VNC remote control.
> > Ray M
> > CCNA, MCSE
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Re: Changes in the Cisco certification structure for CCNA & CCNP Specializations

[Jason]

You don't need the CCNP to get these specializations anymore, just the
required tests for each specialization.

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""perryb"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> I just looked at this linke and on the first page, saw this:
>
> "As of February 12, 2001, new Cisco Security Specialist and Cisco
SNA/IP
> Specialist designations replace the former CCNP and CCDP Specializations."
>
> Am I reading thsi right?  Thid *does* say that the CSP and CSNA/IP *does*
> REPLACE the CCNP and CCDP - doesn't it?  How can this be?
>
> P.S.  If that is not what it clearly states, then maybe that is one of the
> many reasons that I can't pass that darn CCIE written :-(
>
> --perry
> - Original Message -
> From: "MIRSKY Carl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Arthur Stewart'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 7:59 AM
> Subject: RE: Changes in the Cisco certification structure for CCNA & CCNP
> Specializations
>
>
> > Ahh Marketing..
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Arthur Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 7:52 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Changes in the Cisco certification structure for CCNA & CCNP
> > Specializations
> >
> >
> > Looks like the three and a half level (CCxA, CCxP, CCxP-Specialization,
> > CCIE) Cisco certification Program is being substantially changed -
perhaps
> a
> > sign of more changes to come.  In short, some specializations are no
> longer
> > add-ons to CCxP, now they're add-ons to CCxA
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/#certifications
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/cqs.html
> >
> > Arthur Stewart
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Re: **Pix Firewall

[Jason]

Cisco has a $2k off deal for the 525 going on right now:

"
PIX 525 Firewall $2000 Instant Rebate Available through March 31, 2001
Now through March 31, 2001, resellers can get a $2000 instant rebate through
US distribution on the Cisco Secure PIX 525 Firewall. The Cisco Secure PIX
525 Firewall is a robust security appliance delivering enhanced performance
in a streamlined, easy-access, rack-mounted chassis. The PIX 525 has a
throughput of 370 Mbps with the ability to handle as many as 280,000
simultaneous sessions. The 600 MHz CPU of the PIX 525 enables it to deliver
an additional 25-30% increased capacity for firewalling services. Built-in
IPsec encryption allows both site-to-site and remote access VPN deployments.
There is NO LIMIT to the number of PIX 525 Firewalls that can qualify for
this rebate.

Part Number PIX-525-UR-BUN

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""ML"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Try www.CDW.com, but I think a 525 runs about 14-20K but that is not with
> redundany or additional Net cards..
>
>
> Deepak Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > does anyone have any prices on PIX firewalls?520, 525, and 535.
> >
> > Im looking to buy, but I cant find prices on the cisco website.if
> > someone has them in Canadian dollors, that'll be awesome!
> >
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Re: Pix Firewall Issue

[Jason]

PPTP:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/pptppix.html

Or buy a license for every single Win2k box from IRE (which is where Cisco
OEMs their Win9x/NT VPN Client from.  I don't know what it takes for the IRE
VPN Client to work with the PIX):
http://www.soft-pk.com/

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""Kevin O'Gilvie"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know of a vpn client for Windows 2000, I have Cisco Secure but
> it doesnt run on 2000, I need to implement a vpn solution for my company
> that will integrate with the PIX 515 that I just purchased..
>
> Regards,
>
> Kevin
>
>
> >From: "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Pix Firewall Issue
> >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:55:14 -0800
> >
> >Actually it's not a good idea to do a 'conduit permit icmp any any'.  If
> >you
> >want ping traffic to originate inside then do this:
> >
> >conduit permit icmp 208.184.23.0 255.255.255.0 any echoreply
> >
> >Think about the way ping works - your workstation sends an icmp echo -
the
> >end station sends an icmp echo-reply - which from the PIX standpoint is a
> >new inbound packet ( cuz it's stateless ).  Therefore - let the
echo-reply
> >in only.  Not all ICMP messages.
> >
> >Kenny
> >
> >"Daniel Cotts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >303479FA060CD211B893F805A88AA10F4C@EXCHANGE1">news:303479FA060CD211B893F805A88AA10F4C@EXCHANGE1...
> > > You're not telling us from where you are pinging. From the PIX? From a
> >host
> > > behind the Firewall? From a host outside the Firewall?
> > > Anyway this command is good to have in later versions if you want
pings
> >to
> > > traverse the PIX.
> > > conduit permit icmp any any
> > > You may also want to modify that command or eliminate it, if you want
to
> > > enforce a stronger policy.
> > >
>
>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/pix_v50/config/co
n
> > > fig.htm#xtocid1091627
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:09 PM
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject: Pix Firewall Issue
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Gang,
> > > >
> > > > I have a Pix Firewall 520 and wondered if this was a feature or a
> > > > configuration issue on my firwall.  We have an entire class C
> > > > address say
> > > > 208.184.23.x to use for our network. We use the 192.168.1.x
> > > > network for our
> > > > internal network.  I am having problems pinging a machine's
> > > > Internet ip
> > > > address say 208.184.23.11 which I noticed is statically mapped to
it's
> > > > internal address say 192.168.1.10 on the pix.
> > > >
> > > > For example, If I ping another box 208.184.23.12 and not
> > > > statically mapped
> > > > to a internal ip address on the pix, I get a response.
> > > >
> > > > Any help or hints would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
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Re: Which Job Should I Take?

[Jason]

I hear the MC3810s will be on their way out soon.

Just my two cents worth.

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""Casey Fahey"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> FWIW, I would take the job that I felt better about and felt I would be
most
> successful in.  In your case, that is probably Job # 1.
>
> HTH,
>
> Casey Fahey CCNP MCSE
>
>
> >I was wondering if you all could share your opinions with me. I have a =
> >choice of two jobs to take listed below. Both are an increase in pay of =
> >about 9k.
> >
> >1. My current Job: They are going to title me "network engineer" working
=
> >4 10 hour days 1 pm to midnight ( I love the hours) , but we work with =
> >cabletron, checkpoint and cisco. We have a campus and WAN support =
> >responsibility. Sometimes it's a bit slow when nothing is happening and =
> >I may get some "Win NT" duties, yuck I would have sunday, monday and
=
> >tuesdays off and could possibly get some good side gigs. Last but not =
> >least, it's business casual.
> >
> >2. New Job Offer: I will be titled a "network administrator" working 8 =
> >to 5 monday through friday ( I hate waking up early ), but getting =
> >exposure to ATM, Voice over IP and voice over ATM. Lots of MC 3810s =
> >about 50 or so with conections all over the US. One thing is for sure is
=
> >there are NT admins to handle the "Win NT" issues, I really want to =
> >graduate from the NT support world for good. This company is also =
> >pre-ipo and although they are a huge company, this is a new "division" =
> >and pre-ipo makes me nervous because I have a family to support. One =
> >cool thing is that they are a cisco gold partner. One bad thing is that =
> >they are business dress, yes the whole tie thing. The pre-ipo thing =
> >makes me nervous because they say "yea when we go public, lots of the =
> >big wigs will be rich"... Does this mean new management takeovers =
> >etc...??
> >
> >
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Re: INCREDIBLY OFF TOPIC: Phones?

[Jason]

Telephony is very much a part of Cisco these days, including the CCIE lab
and CCNP Voice Access Specialization.  You'll find a good start at Cisco's
site:
http://cisco.com/go/avvid/

As a side note, we're starting an 18 site AVVID install tomorrow.  We'll be
bringing up the PSTN PRI and two Call Manager boxes, with the cut-over date
for the first site (150 phones) late next week.  Wish me luck, heh.  Oh, did
I mention the owner of the company is close friends with our CEO?  Got to
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Re: SBI/PacBell "Basic" ADSL PVCs?

[Jason]

What other suggestions do you have for a large customer with a large amount
of sites that wants to connect securely, but cheaply in the long run?
$39/mo. per site for 384K guaranteed access is all they're seeing right now,
vs. 128K ISDN for twice as much, and an Access Server at the central site as
well, which they wouldn't need so long as they have internet connectivity
(which they do).  This current customer is a law enforcement office with 30+
remote sites and the main site has T3 access to the main county office, and
from there out to their PBI T3 internet access, and this current internet
access doesn't come from their budget.  The biggest problem is that
PacBell/ASI is uncooperative at this point and doesn't want them taking a
cheap solution.  No doubt they'd rather sell them another T3 at the main
site with T1s to all the remote sites.  30 sites at government T1 access is
around $150 + mileage, and a couple $K for the T3.  Do the math, and even
with occasional outages (which are acceptable to this customer), the cost
savings can't be overlooked.  Worst case, we'll probably configure a small
access server and external modems off the AUX ports of the 1720s for backup
dialing (another advantage of having the ADSL WIC so the router actually
knows when the link goes down).

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""Scott M. Trieste"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Why are you wasting your time with ATM over broadband?
>
> ""Jason"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 96fumt$fi9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:96fumt$fi9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Here's what I just sent off to PacBell's support team, but I'm sure I'll
> > have to battle their live tech support personnel to get in touch with an
> > engineer who can answer this (if someone else knows, that'd be great as
my
> > ATM knowledge is limited to configuring a few 1417 ADSL CPE routers):
> >
> > Up until this point the customer has connected with their Westel
Wirespeed
> > using the EnterNet 300 software. However, we're moving to a new platform
> for
> > VPN support and security:
> >
> > I'm configuring a Cisco 1720 router with an ADSL interface card for a
> > customer with Basic ADSL which uses PPPoE. The Cisco 1720 supports PPPoE
> > authentication, but I first need more ATM info. What PVC information
> should
> > I configure for the router? I've tried 0/35 & 8/35 (the two standard
PVCs
> I
> > know about for Enhanced ADSL), but neither get me past Layer 2 ATM.
> >
> > --
> >
> > As a side note, here's the base config I used on the 1720 and also on an
> > 827-4v for my personal static "Enhanced" ADSL connection (no need for
> PPPoE,
> > and PVC 0/35 worked):
> >
> > bridge irb
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > interface ATM0
> >  no ip address
> >  no ip route-cache
> >  no ip mroute-cache
> >  atm vc-per-vp 256
> >  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> >  pvc 0/35
> >  !
> >  dsl operating-mode auto
> >  no fair-queue
> >  bridge-group 1
> > !
> > interface FastEthernet0
> >  ip address 192.168.45.172 255.255.255.0
> >  speed auto
> > !
> > interface BVI1
> > !  I configure a static MAC so that I don't have to wait
> > !  for the PBI router's ARP table to
> > !  clear out when I change routers
> >  mac-address .0c85.8f1c
> >  ip address 63.206.176.162 255.255.255.248
> > !
> > ip classless
> > !
> > bridge 1 protocol ieee
> >  bridge 1 route ip
> >
> >
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Re: Cisco PIX : Static and Conduit command

[Jason]

5.2(4) is rather new (last 2 weeks or so), and still supports static
conduits.

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> That's true, conduits are going away.  The only reason you see them is for
> backward compatibility issues.  Definitely use static commands with
> access-lists.  Its a two-step process, but its a nice feature.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Nabil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:51 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cisco PIX : Static and Conduit command
>
>
> Does anybody know about the advantage of having static conduit command
> compare with
> access-list/access-group command in PIX?.
>
> I heard that the static conduit will no longer available in the future
> realease. Is it True??.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: SBI/PacBell "Basic" ADSL PVCs?

[Jason]

Thanks for the advice, I'll check out that PVC.  Basically, we get Layer 1
connectivity to the ATM switch, but are failing to bring the PVC up (ILMI
errors).  As I said, I'm not ATM expert.  I don't think we're even to the
PPPoE stage of authentication (debug ppp negotiation & debug ppp
authentication never show any lines).

The PVCs I do know about are 0/35 or 8/35, which work on the static/Enhanced
DSL lines I've configured.

Does ATM have a way of "auto detecting" the PVCs?  I mean, how does the
Alcatel chipset (for instance, in the Westel Wirespeeds we're issued) know
what PVC?  At my house the PVC is 8/35, which works fine with my Westel, but
the PVC is different at this PPPoE site, but yet the Westel knows or figures
it out (I've tried my Westel at this PPPoE site just for kicks, and it works
fine with the EnterNet 300 software on the PC).

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""Blair"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Jason,
>
> I'm not a cisco expert (yet) so please forgive me when I say I'm not sure
> what you mean by "neither get me past Layer 2 ATM."
> Is it that the 1720 won't let you authenticate to the ISP?  It seems your
> PVCs are correct, but I've seen on www.dslreports.com that some folks have
> tried 0/33, so you might want to try that.  Also, make sure that you check
> to make sure that there's still a DSL signal by keeping the Westell set up
> as well.
> I hope that helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Randy Blair - CNA, MCP
> Field Engineer, SBC/Advanced Solutions Inc.
> Ameritech Region
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:50 PM
> Subject: SBI/PacBell "Basic" ADSL PVCs?
>
>
> > Here's what I just sent off to PacBell's support team, but I'm sure I'll
> > have to battle their live tech support personnel to get in touch with an
> > engineer who can answer this (if someone else knows, that'd be great as
my
> > ATM knowledge is limited to configuring a few 1417 ADSL CPE routers):
> >
> > Up until this point the customer has connected with their Westel
Wirespeed
> > using the EnterNet 300 software. However, we're moving to a new platform
> for
> > VPN support and security:
> >
> > I'm configuring a Cisco 1720 router with an ADSL interface card for a
> > customer with Basic ADSL which uses PPPoE. The Cisco 1720 supports PPPoE
> > authentication, but I first need more ATM info. What PVC information
> should
> > I configure for the router? I've tried 0/35 & 8/35 (the two standard
PVCs
> I
> > know about for Enhanced ADSL), but neither get me past Layer 2 ATM.
> >
> > --
> >
> > As a side note, here's the base config I used on the 1720 and also on an
> > 827-4v for my personal static "Enhanced" ADSL connection (no need for
> PPPoE,
> > and PVC 0/35 worked):
> >
> > bridge irb
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > interface ATM0
> >  no ip address
> >  no ip route-cache
> >  no ip mroute-cache
> >  atm vc-per-vp 256
> >  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> >  pvc 0/35
> >  !
> >  dsl operating-mode auto
> >  no fair-queue
> >  bridge-group 1
> > !
> > interface FastEthernet0
> >  ip address 192.168.45.172 255.255.255.0
> >  speed auto
> > !
> > interface BVI1
> > !  I configure a static MAC so that I don't have to wait
> > !  for the PBI router's ARP table to
> > !  clear out when I change routers
> >  mac-address .0c85.8f1c
> >  ip address 63.206.176.162 255.255.255.248
> > !
> > ip classless
> > !
> > bridge 1 protocol ieee
> >  bridge 1 route ip
> >
> >
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Re: Cisco PIX : Static and Conduit command

[Jason]

When did 5.3(1) come out?  I must have overlooked it recently, or it's brand
new.

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""Jason"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> 5.2(4) is rather new (last 2 weeks or so), and still supports static
> conduits.
>
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> ""Nabil Fares"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > That's true, conduits are going away.  The only reason you see them is
for
> > backward compatibility issues.  Definitely use static commands with
> > access-lists.  Its a two-step process, but its a nice feature.
> >
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Nabil
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:51 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Cisco PIX : Static and Conduit command
> >
> >
> > Does anybody know about the advantage of having static conduit command
> > compare with
> > access-list/access-group command in PIX?.
> >
> > I heard that the static conduit will no longer available in the future
> > realease. Is it True??.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
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Re: Pix Firewall Issue

[Jason]

Does anyone have a link to the VPN3000 Concentrator Win2k beta software?
I'm eager to try this out and ditch having to configure both IPSEC/ISAKMP
and PPTP each PIX I configure for VPNs.

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""Tim O'Brien"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Kevin,
>
> The newest Cisco VPN3000 client (I believe that it is 2.6b and should be
on
> CCO within a week or 2) that supports Win2000 will terminate to a PIX
> running 5.2 (I believe) or newer. I would suggest loading your 515 with
the
> newest code (5.3.1). You should be getting another email from me with the
> link to the code. Grab the VPN software when available.
>
> Tim
>
>
>  O'Gilvie"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Does anyone know of a vpn client for Windows 2000, I have Cisco Secure
but
> > it doesnt run on 2000, I need to implement a vpn solution for my company
> > that will integrate with the PIX 515 that I just purchased..
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > >From: "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Pix Firewall Issue
> > >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:55:14 -0800
> > >
> > >Actually it's not a good idea to do a 'conduit permit icmp any any'.
If
> > >you
> > >want ping traffic to originate inside then do this:
> > >
> > >conduit permit icmp 208.184.23.0 255.255.255.0 any echoreply
> > >
> > >Think about the way ping works - your workstation sends an icmp echo -
> the
> > >end station sends an icmp echo-reply - which from the PIX standpoint is
a
> > >new inbound packet ( cuz it's stateless ).  Therefore - let the
> echo-reply
> > >in only.  Not all ICMP messages.
> > >
> > >Kenny
> > >
> > >"Daniel Cotts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >303479FA060CD211B893F805A88AA10F4C@EXCHANGE1">news:303479FA060CD211B893F805A88AA10F4C@EXCHANGE1...
> > > > You're not telling us from where you are pinging. From the PIX? From
a
> > >host
> > > > behind the Firewall? From a host outside the Firewall?
> > > > Anyway this command is good to have in later versions if you want
> pings
> > >to
> > > > traverse the PIX.
> > > > conduit permit icmp any any
> > > > You may also want to modify that command or eliminate it, if you
want
> to
> > > > enforce a stronger policy.
> > > >
> >
>
>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/pix_v50/config/co
> n
> > > > fig.htm#xtocid1091627
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:09 PM
> > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > > Subject: Pix Firewall Issue
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Gang,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a Pix Firewall 520 and wondered if this was a feature or a
> > > > > configuration issue on my firwall.  We have an entire class C
> > > > > address say
> > > > > 208.184.23.x to use for our network. We use the 192.168.1.x
> > > > > network for our
> > > > > internal network.  I am having problems pinging a machine's
> > > > > Internet ip
> > > > > address say 208.184.23.11 which I noticed is statically mapped to
> it's
> > > > > internal address say 192.168.1.10 on the pix.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, If I ping another box 208.184.23.12 and not
> > > > > statically mapped
> > > > > to a internal ip address on the pix, I get a response.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help or hints would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
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Re: PIX firewall

[Jason]

The PIX can use internally stored pre-shared keys, or can use external
authentication such as TACACS+.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/700/configsec.html

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> quick question, and probably dumb question!!.
>
> when I set up a pix firewall
>
>
> user--56k dialup-->pix--nt server
>
> to authenticate the user, does pix use NT auth. or another type of
> auth.username/password has to be setup within pix...
>
> thanks
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Re: SBI/PacBell "Basic" ADSL PVCs?

[Jason]

The worst thing is the run-around with tech support.  Everyone likes to say
"We don't support Cisco" to which I say "the router doesn't matter, but you
asked so I told you, I just want your switch configuration info for an end
user."  Basically, if you're using the exact configuration and hardware they
support, it's like pulling teeth to get anywhere.  I know if I could get to
an end engineer I could actually get the information I need.  This morning I
battled through a level 1 and level 2 phone support personnel before the
third person (I believe still at level 2) magically turned up the following
PVCs:

4/0
202/142
107/142

He had no clue what went where, and was uncooperative to get this escalated
further to find out for sure which was the PVC needed at the end user site.
Unfortunately I was not on site, or else I'd have had them hold until I
tried each.  When I was able to have the customer try each, none worked.

Cisco TAC isn't able to help until I have the correct PVC information, as
all they can say is that it's incorrect (which I can read from the debugs
just as well).

Tomorrow I'll try 0/33, as someone on the list has suggested has been
mentioned on DSLReports.  I'm just frustrated with PBI/ASI's level of
support of late, especially for their lower end products such as ADSL.
Support for FR has been horrid as well, but that seems mainly due to
miscommunication between the local loop and ASI (still ASI's fault as they
should be following up to see that sites are getting installed).  Anyway,
I'm ranting and tired so I should stop now ;-p

Any help would be very much appreciated.

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""Blair"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Jason,
>
> You say that "PacBell/ASI is uncooperative at this point and doesn't want
> them taking a cheap solution."
> What have they done to bring you to this conclusion?  I'd like to help if
I
> can.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Randy Blair - CNA, MCP
> Field Engineer, SBC/ASI
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: SBI/PacBell "Basic" ADSL PVCs?
>
>
> > What other suggestions do you have for a large customer with a large
> amount
> > of sites that wants to connect securely, but cheaply in the long run?
> > $39/mo. per site for 384K guaranteed access is all they're seeing right
> now,
> > vs. 128K ISDN for twice as much, and an Access Server at the central
site
> as
> > well, which they wouldn't need so long as they have internet
connectivity
> > (which they do).  This current customer is a law enforcement office with
> 30+
> > remote sites and the main site has T3 access to the main county office,
> and
> > from there out to their PBI T3 internet access, and this current
internet
> > access doesn't come from their budget.  The biggest problem is that
> > PacBell/ASI is uncooperative at this point and doesn't want them taking
a
> > cheap solution.  No doubt they'd rather sell them another T3 at the main
> > site with T1s to all the remote sites.  30 sites at government T1 access
> is
> > around $150 + mileage, and a couple $K for the T3.  Do the math, and
even
> > with occasional outages (which are acceptable to this customer), the
cost
> > savings can't be overlooked.  Worst case, we'll probably configure a
small
> > access server and external modems off the AUX ports of the 1720s for
> backup
> > dialing (another advantage of having the ADSL WIC so the router actually
> > knows when the link goes down).
> >
> > --
> > Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
> > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
> > Cisco resources: http://r2cisco.artoo.net/
> >
> >
> > ""Scott M. Trieste"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > 96h13e$bjl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:96h13e$bjl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Why are you wasting your time with ATM over broadband?
> > >
> > > ""Jason"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > 96fumt$fi9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:96fumt$fi9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Here's what I just sent off to PacBell's support team, but I'm sure
> I'll
&

Re: SBI/PacBell "Basic" ADSL PVCs?

[Jason]

Yeah, I know PPPoE sucks and I've told the customer that I recommend using a
LinkSys router to handle the PPPoE and the Cisco VPN Client software for the
VPN/IPSEC for the sites with smaller amounts of people, and getting
Enhanced/static ADSL for the larger sites.  But they're looking at the
bottom line long term and also maximum security (LinkSys is not really
secure enough as a NAT out to a bad website could provide a hole back in).
At the moment though, they want me to pursue getting PPPoE to work with the
Cisco gear.

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> Hey
>
>  My two cents in the matter. PPPoE is a mess. Alot of the
> "Baby-Bells" use PPPoE solution in order to undercut bandwidth. I hooked
up
> with a local provider out here in Phoenix for $45/month for a 1.5 meg
> bi-directional SDSL line. Downside is it runs PPPoE so I only see about
> 1,300 Kilobit per second throughput(which is still great for the money).
> Additionally alot of different providers do different wacky things with
> their PPPoE implementations. Some running proprietary versions or require
> special header info. A company called roaring penguin implemented a
> solution for linux (roaringpenguin.com) and it will "sniff" windows
> machines logging into the network to figure out the proprietary things
that
> are being done.  Just my two cents...
>
> Had all sorts of problems, DHCP server(for ethernet) ran via PPPoE and
> required a "default" address be set so that it could expire the lease
right
> away and re-issue one ( so I just hardcoded the ethernet address). Then
the
> stupid authentication was screwy. In the end everything turned out fine,
> but I wonder if Cisco products work with these "proprietary"
> implementations of PPPoE.
>
> Brandon Ripper
> CCNA
>
> BTW- this "DSLPipe" by Lucent they provided seems to just be bridge back
to
> a main concentrator. Although they listed DLCI and port numbers on its
tag...
>
> At 09:42 PM 2/15/01 -0800, you wrote:
> >Thanks for the advice, I'll check out that PVC.  Basically, we get Layer
1
> >connectivity to the ATM switch, but are failing to bring the PVC up (ILMI
> >errors).  As I said, I'm not ATM expert.  I don't think we're even to the
> >PPPoE stage of authentication (debug ppp negotiation & debug ppp
> >authentication never show any lines).
> >
> >The PVCs I do know about are 0/35 or 8/35, which work on the
static/Enhanced
> >DSL lines I've configured.
> >
> >Does ATM have a way of "auto detecting" the PVCs?  I mean, how does the
> >Alcatel chipset (for instance, in the Westel Wirespeeds we're issued)
know
> >what PVC?  At my house the PVC is 8/35, which works fine with my Westel,
but
> >the PVC is different at this PPPoE site, but yet the Westel knows or
figures
> >it out (I've tried my Westel at this PPPoE site just for kicks, and it
works
> >fine with the EnterNet 300 software on the PC).
> >
> >--
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> >List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
> >
> >""Blair"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >01b001c09752$8c19fe00$87cdfea9@remote">news:01b001c09752$8c19fe00$87cdfea9@remote...
> > > Jason,
> > >
> > > I'm not a cisco expert (yet) so please forgive me when I say I'm not
sure
> > > what you mean by "neither get me past Layer 2 ATM."
> > > Is it that the 1720 won't let you authenticate to the ISP?  It seems
your
> > > PVCs are correct, but I've seen on www.dslreports.com that some folks
have
> > > tried 0/33, so you might want to try that.  Also, make sure that you
check
> > > to make sure that there's still a DSL signal by keeping the Westell
set up
> > > as well.
> > > I hope that helps.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Randy Blair - CNA, MCP
> > > Field Engineer, SBC/Advanced Solutions Inc.
> > > Ameritech Region
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:50 PM
> > > Subject: SBI/PacBell "Basic&q

Re: Route Summarisation question

[Jason]

/27 is the correct summarization for those routes, but the range it covers
is 0-31, with 1-30 being valid hosts.  Get a subnet calculator to
double-check your math:
http://support.3com.com/software/utilities_for_windows_32_bit.htm
ftp://ftp.3com.com/pub/utilbin/win32/3CIPCalc.zip


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"Stuart Laubstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Assuming the following internal routes need to be summarised
> 10.40.3.11 255.255.255.240
> 10.40.3.15 255.255.255.240
> 10.40.3.18 255.255.255.240
> 10.40.3.26 255.255.255.240
>
>
> Could they be summarised as
>
> 10.40.3.0 255.255.255.224   and the space summarised would be
10.40.3.1
> - 10.40.3.53
>
> Am I completely off base or close to the correct answer? I have studied so
> much I have confused myself.
>
> thanks
>
> stuart
>
>
>
>
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Re: telnet - to - PIX & Internet router-

[Jason]

Correct, for security reasons the PIX does not act as a terminal server to
allow you to telnet from it.  If you wish to telnet to a router through the
pix, configure a static NAT, and the a conduit to permit tcp/23.

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> Hello Everybody,
> A pix is connected to Cisco Internet router via cross cable and I could
> manage the PIX over the network by a telnet session but how can I reach to
> Internet router from the network.? As I have seen there is no telnet
> capability for the PIX.
>
> 
> Murat KIRMACI
> CCNA
>
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Re: Firewalls and VPNs

[Jason]

As someone said yesterday: The PIX will not route, period.  It will NAT
(including NAT 0), but it will not route packets between different networks.
If you need routing off any interface on a PIX, you need a router there.

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> A device can best be described by its chief function. You can use a
> PIX as a router, just allow everything through. In fact you can use a
> router as a firewall, be selective with access lists. Terminology is
> flexible as long as you're pragmatic about function.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:52:06AM -0800, Dan West wrote:
> >PIX - sounds like a router to me - packet forwarding
> >based on layer 3 addressing. It has extra security
> >features and all of a sudden it's a
> >firewall...marketing fluff? or accurate description???
> >who will uncover this mystery  ;>
> >
> >--- mtieast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I think this comes from the fact that cisco
> >> instructors in class say that
> >> the Pix is not a router. I have heard this as well
> >> when I had the class.
> >>
> >> I know the Pix is not a router, but does it route?
> >> Well, if making decisions
> >> about where to send traffic based on layer 3 info is
> >> routing then I would
> >> argue it does route. It does not forward traffic
> >> based on layer 2 info so
> >> ..
> >>
> >> It routes traffic to the appropriate interface. Can
> >> someone else shed some
> >> light as to why this is said. If it doesn't route
> >> the traffic it recieves
> >> what does it do?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: haroldnjoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:41 PM
> >> Subject: Firewalls and VPNs
> >>
> >>
> >> >I've read here a couple of times that PIX's don't
> >> route. Period. In light
> >> of
> >> >this I'm left a little confused as to a proposed
> >> network map I was given
> >> >recently.
> >> >
> >> >The core layer router is a 3640 linking all of our
> >> branch offices together.
> >> >From the 3640, there is an ethernet connection to a
> >> PIX 515R.  From the
> >> PIX,
> >> >there is another ethernet connection to a 1750
> >> router. The 1750 connects
> >> via
> >> >T1 to our ISP.  There is yet another ethernet
> >> connection from the PIX to
> >> the
> >> >isolation lan, on which resides an internet
> >> mail/web server and a VPN 3000
> >> >concentrator.
> >> >
> >> >If PIX's don't route, what subnet is the isolation
> >> lan going to sit on?  As
> >> >I understand it, the PIX will be providing NAT
> >> functionality for the 3640
> >> >and everything behind it.  So I would assume that
> >> the T1 and ethernet
> >> >interfaces on the 1750, the outside interfaces on
> >> the PIX, and everything
> >> in
> >> >the isolation lan including the VPN concentrator
> >> will have to have public
> >> IP
> >> >addresses which will be given to us by our ISP.
> >> The way the map is layed
> >> >out, it looks to me like the isolation lan would
> >> have to be on its own
> >> >subnet.
> >> >
> >> >What am I missing?  If the PIX doesn't route, do
> >> it's ethernet interfaces
> >> >reside on the same subnet as the isolation lan?  If
> >> so, then the ethernet
> >> >interface on the 1750 must also be on that subnet,
> >> right?
> >> >
> >> >This is the proposed network map that Cisco's
> >> presale engineers gave me.
> >> >I'm sure it's a solid design, but I'm still trying
> >> to work out the details
> >> >so that I understand what I'm implementing (always
> >> a good thing, I think).
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for your time,
> >> >
> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: Investment Question about 1900, 2500, and 5000 series equipment

[Jason]

They're all definitely on the heading toward end of life phase, but I think
they'd be worthwhile to learn on.  Most labs are made up of 2500s.  The 5000
will get you some CatalystOS experience (I believe that's the term for the
non-IOS based switching OS, although depending on the blades/software
versions may not support newer commands, and the 1900 will get you some
basic IOS-based switch experience.  I'd just look at it as an investment in
training for yourself, and not expect a large resell value, although there
will still be some, if nothing else for another person looking to set up a
lab.

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> ==
> How long is the shelf-life of the 1900, 2500, and 5000 series equipment?
>
> If I purchase this equipment, how fast will the investment value decay
once
> purchased...
>
> Will this equipment still be valid over the next year and a half to carry
on
> from CCNP through CCIE?
>  (noting more equipment will be required later for the CCIE tract)
>
> ==
>
>
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Re: RE:

[Jason]

IMHO, the 700 line is a huge waste of time.  Avoid burning time on them and
just study everything else so that you can eat the few questions you get on
them.

When will Cisco dump those 700s anyway?  And now this other non-IOS based
600 line for cheap end-user CPE equipment.  Bleh.

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""Steve Carson"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Sathesh,
>
> On the FRS 2.0 exam I took there were either 3 or 4 questions that were
> directly about the Cisco 700 series.
>
> steve
>
> Original Message Follows
> From: "martijn michiel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "martijn michiel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE:
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:10:49 -
>
> Sathesh, in my bcran book there is a full chapter of 700. Check C's
website
> though.
>
> martijn
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Verzonden: woensdag 14 februari 2001 22:35
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp:
>
>
> guyz:
> any comprehensive resource fo BCRAN ?
>
> any idea if there are questions on cisco 700 ?
>
> thanks,,
>
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Re: Scenario we need help with...

[Jason]

Be aware that the DNS RFC says caching nameservers don't have to honor any
TTL less than 2 days.  This means realistically you could be looking at 2
days worth of downtime globally.  We do these sort of moves on a Friday
evening, and by Monday morning caches are cleared and resolving to the
proper address.

Here's a though, and I'm sure I'm overlooking something:

Bind two IPs to the webserver, the new one and the old one.  That way
traffic will come in and go back out for the proper IP, and the PIX will NAT
them back to the original IP.  You could use route-maps to direct the
traffic out the correct PIX.  I know this worked with no problem for my
Linux box when I cut over to a new ISP when I was multi-homed (no PIXes
involved, just two ISPs and two IPs).

The biggest thing is to test to make sure the box responds with the original
IP address, and not the primary IP.  It's not a problem with my lil' Linux
server.

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Sam,
>
> Ultimately you will have to endure some downtime during this move
> (approximately 1 hour)
> This is the solution I came up with: (and have previously used)
> Reduce the TTL on your DNS records to 1 hour. (30 minutes if you're
feeling
> risky)  Remember that your primary server will remain off line for at
least
> two days.  Remove your primary DNS server and relocate it to your new
> facility.  Note your secondary will continue to resolve host names to the
> original IP addresses.   Notify the naming authority (ie. network
solutions)
> and inform them of the IP change to your primary name server.  While your
> primary DNS server is off line, modify the records on the name server to
> reflect the new IP addresses and increase the TTL on your DNS records back
> to their original setting.  Once the IP address change on your primary
name
> server is complete then you're ready to go.   Schedule a time when it will
> have the least impact on your website and have a buddy at the old location
> stop DNS services, and at the same time start DNS services at your new
> location.  The only time a user might notice the change is if he had a DNS
> record on his recursive server that renewed just before you went to the
> switch over.  If you do this at the right time of night hopefully no-one
> will notice.
> I am aware of another solution involving the arrow-point switches, that
> could have a shorter roll-over time, but I have never tried it.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Matthew
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Scenario we need help with...
>
> We currently have two sites, both with their own PIX firewalls and their
own
> connections to the Internet via separate ISPs.  We also have a T1 point to
> point directly connecting both sites.  Router A has a default route to PIX
> A.  Router B has a default route to Router A.  At site A we have a
> production web site on a server.  We created a mirror of the web site on a
> new server located at site B.  Currently, external DNS resolves our domain
> name to an IP address on the PIX located at site A.  We configured the
> static mapping on Site A PIX to point to the new web server at site B.
This
> has allowed us to host our web site at site B, but we are still not
> utilizing our Internet connection at site B for incoming traffic.  What we
> would like to do is make DNS changes to direct incoming web traffic to PIX
> B.  During the time DNS changes propagate I believe we may receive traffic
> via both PIX firewalls.  Once this transition is complete site A will go
> away along with the T1 connection.  Any ideas on how we can make this
> transition happen successfully without any interruption to our production
> web site.  Any thought would be appreciated.
>
>
> ISP A - Site A PIX - Router A
> /\
> InternetT1 Point to Point
> \/
> ISP B - Site B PIX - Router B
>
>
> Thanks in advance
> Sam
>
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Cisco 2620 as a Firewall??

[Jason]

I was recently using Cisco's Product Selection Tool and was looking for
routers that might dub as a firewall.  After putting in all of my options,
it listed the 2620 as a potential candidate for the Firewall functionality
in addition to routing voice and data.  Considering that I already have a
2621 in the closet, --

My question is this -- How exactly can I get the router to work as a
firewall as well as a router?  I am looking for details as I can already
guess the basics.  I'm sure I need an IOS upgrade which includes PIX or some
other firewall functionality.  If you have experience in this area, share
the knowledge!  Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks so much,
Jason


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Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

[Jason]

I thought OSPF is suppose to converge whenever you have a change in the
route. I.e whenever any interface bounce.. regardless of the OSPF Router ID.
The difference is probably in terms of the amount of "data" being sent.. but
definitely a covergence would occur..



- Original Message -
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To: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "CCIE_Lab Groupstudy List"
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Subject: Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about
loopback interfaces


> Chuck and others,
>
> I've been following this conversation and it is a good
> review.
>
> Without a loopback interface, the OSPF RID (Router ID)
> will be the highest IP address on the router when the
> OSPF process becomes active. If that interface isn't
> stable (say the highest IP is on a WAN circuit) then
> when that interface bounces it will cause OSPF to
> re-converge.
>
> Using a loopback interface, the OSPF RID will be the
> highest IP on a loopback when the OSPF process starts.
> If you have OSPF running already and add loopback
> interfaces OSPF doesn't use the loopback IP address
> for a RID until the OSPF process is restarted, removed
> and added back (copy-paste), or the router is rebooted
> on saved cfg.
>
> So for a stable OSPF environment, using loopbacks
> reduces the chances of un-necessary OSPF
> re-convergance and updates occuring when a interface
> bounces. Example, if you had no loopbacks and had s1
> and e1 interfaces. s1 having highest IP and was RID
> but s1 wasn't running OSPF - when s1 bounced for
> whatever reason OSPF would re-converge because the
> OSPF RID went down and came back up.
>
> Also, you don't need to advertise the loopback IP
> address into routing protocols unless you want to
> reach that from another device.
>
> I hope this clears things up... it's late so I hope my
> explanation makes sense. :) If not, hit me for the
> mistakes if your ever in Chicago area.
>
> Erick B. - Prepping for attempt 2.
> (Why am I still up at 6am?)
>
> --- Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Much as I personally rant about cross posting the
> > two lists, I believe this
> > one might be worth examination from all levels.
> >
> > Recall the questions and answers about the purpose
> > of the loopback
> > interface, particularly in OSPF. Among the answers
> > proposed is that the
> > loopback, being always up, provides continuity, in
> > case an interface fails.
> > In particular, the book answer is that because the
> > loopback is always up, it
> > provides the means of reaching a router so long as
> > the loopback is reachable
> > via any interface that remains operational.
>
>  I wish this lab had been a bit quicker and less
> > dirty. But it has provided
> > an interesting learning experience for me. Thought I
> > would pass along my
> > observations for those who want to ponder yet
> > another protocol behaviour.
> >
> > My supposition:
> >
> > -  ethernet
> > |  |   |
> > DR BDR  DR/other
> > | |   |
> > (---frame relay cloud )
> >
> > >DR ethernet hardware fails.
> > >
> > >I would venture a guess that the BDR
> > >would be promoted because even though there is an
> > alternative route to the
> > >DR loopback, hellos go only to adjacent routers,
> > and the DR is no longer
> > >adjacent.
> >
> > Well, I proved my point. Under this scenario, when I
> > unplug the DR ethernet
> > port, the BDR becomes the DR.
> >
> > Some router outputs are listed below. I hope this
> > message falls below the
> > reject size threshold.
> >
> > OK. The observations:
> >
> > 1) I am correct that in the case of the ethernet DR
> > becoming disabled, the
> > BDR still becomes the DR.
> >
> > 2) If the frame cloud is a different area than the
> > ethernet segment, the
> > loopback route disappears. This behaviour is
> > specific to OSPF, because of
> > the fact that all inter-area traffic MUST pass
> > through area 0. When the area
> > 0 link goes down, the route to the loopback may
> > disappear, depending upon
> > the OSPF topology.
> >
> > 3) When I reconfigured everything so that both the
> > frame relay and ethernet
> > segments were area 0, and the loopback interfaces
> > remained visible via the
> > frame segment after disconnecting the ethernet
> > segment, the process still
> > occurred as predicted. That is, the BDR became the
> > DR and the DR/Other
> > became the BDR. The fact that the loopback route
> > remained visible had NO
> > EFFECT whatsoever on the DR/BDR situation. Why?
> > Because the DR/BDR
> > relationship is unique to a segment. Again, this is
> > a behaviour specific to
> > OSPF.
> >
> > 4) My frame cloud was configured as a point to
> > multipoint network. As you
> > will see in the outputs, the routers form full
> > adjacencies 

Re: Catalyst 3512XL and fragment-free switching?

[Jason]

No I still haven't found an answer!  I'll repost!

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> Hi Jason,
>
> Did you ever get an answer to this?
>
> I am going insane - I thought I could look at my 3548-XL-EN real quick and
> figure it out, but I can't even see what frame switching mode it is
running.
>
> I have been searching like a maniac on the CCO, but I have had no luck
> whatsoever finding any information about how to [1] see what frame
switching
> mode running on the 35xx, [2] see what default frame switching mode is set
> on the 35xx, or [3] how to change the frame switching mode on  a 35xx.
>
> I looked in my old ICND book from Cisco Press, but it only mentioned the
> default mode on the 19xx. In my BCMSN book from Cisco Press I can't find
> anything about it, and in my Cisco LAN Switching book by Clark, it
mentions
> what modes the Catalysts can run on page 61, but the 35xx is not included
in
> that table, so I guess it's too new???
>
> Arrr
>
> If anyone know - please tell.
>
> Thanks and have a great weekend,
>
> Ole
>
> 
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Couch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Catalyst 3512XL and fragment-free switching?
>
>
> I can't find any docs on whether the Catalyst 3512XL can do fast forward
or
> fragment-free switching.  Has anyone done this or can you point me in the
> right direction in CCO?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
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Cut-through, Store and Forward, or Fragment Free Switching with 3512 XL????

[Jason]

Can anyone point me in the right direction to find out about the different
switching modes available on the 3512 XL.  I can't even find out what the
default method is.  Any help is greatly appreciated!

Jason


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Re: Off topic: Looking for info on IXPORT CSU's

[Jason]

www.verilink.com


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> Sorry for the off topic post.
>
> I just came up with a 6 slot csu rack, made by IXPORT.
>
> So far a haven't been able to find any info on IXPORT.
>
> Has anyone ever used any IXPORT products? Know where I can find any
further
> info, tech specs, manuals, etc.
>
> thanks,
>
> tim
>
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Re: line protocol down

[Jason]

I totally agree with you , thanks 
pal!!

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  Edgar,
  
  Don't you see everybody here is trying to help? 
  That's what the purpose of this group, not only people ask questions, but we 
  all watch and learn from them. 
  I think you own an apology to Jason. You can always 
  ignore the messages if you do not like it and keep your mouth shut. 
  
   
   
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  > it is OK not to understand something , and ask questions, but you 
  have no> clue, and expect others who are not getting paid to do YOUR 
  job to do it for> you. Why should we help you fix the problems YOU are 
  getting paid to fix.> Get some training, and study, help yourself. If 
  you want my help the price> is $100.00 per hour at a minimum.> 
  > My .02> > EF > > -Original 
  Message-> From: Yee, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]> 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:56 AM> To: cisco@groupstudy. com 
  (E-mail)> Subject: line protocol down> > > 
  > hi , > > I have problems with my frame-relay serial 
  link attatched is the router> configuration> > physical 
  layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface> still 
  showing interface up line protocol down> > Any inputs will be 
  greatly appreciated> > > thanks> > 
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Bring equipments in and out of US

[Jason]

I need to bring a few routers out of US and maybe in a couple of months,
bring them back again. What can I do to avoid any inport and export taxes
since I plan to bring the same equipments in and out for personal use. But
I'm sure I'll have a hard time convincing them that I have 6 routers for
personal use !! :-P

Anybody has any experiences, trainers, etc , please let me know.

Thanks !!



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re: ccie r/s practice tests>?

[jason]

anyone on the list seen some new practice tests for the written recently.?
I have been seeing a bunch of the same test questions floating around.  some
stuff on atm, voip, etc, would be nice.

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Where to get MEM-C5K-16M-Custom= ?

[Jason]

Anybody knows where I can get the above parts cheaply. I cannot seems to
find this in the usual places. If you have a spare, please email me. Thanks.



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Re: You were good ,but biased too.good luck anyways,

[Jason]

I didn't follow the exact situation here and so I'm not sure what went
through here. But to answer Pradeep's question " BTW, how many people from
this forum have you really "placed"  Any figures ? " , the way I look at it,
if you are a professional headhunter, it's not so much how many you have
placed but how many you have CORRECTLY match up and placed.

I can assure you that lots of these will match up and try to place even if
you don't fit !!

I appreciate the fact that Raymond actually get back to you even if he
doesn't have anything suitable unlike others that will just dump you into a
database. I actually got some that tells me I'm a good fit for a particular
position , blah blah blah and ask me to sent them the resume as they don't
have it on file !!??!! In that aspect, I think he has done what he could and
even if he didn't managed to placed some/many/all of us, I still thinks
highly of him and wishes him all the best.

For those who is looking for a professional who can place you correctly and
not just anywhere, please contact "SANDY XA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . I'm VERY
impressed with her professionalism and the way she work. I am not getting
anything out of this, I have not even met the lady except works with her
through the phone. Although I eventually got something else on my own , I
was very impressed by her. She really find out where you are, what you want
and try to match to her client and the thing I like most about her is the
fact that she feedbacks IMMEDIATELY any responses from her clients,
regardless of it being positive or negative. In addition, she doesn't go
ahead and forward your resume unless you have seen the job description and
company profile and agrees that you are interested.

Feel free to forward her your resume if you are in the Bay Area, CA .



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> Good grief, Pradeep, get the he** off of your soapbox, will ya??
>
> You have absolutely no idea how to conduct yourself in an appropriate
> manner, and this posting proves that out.  When wishing someone well, why
do
> you feel it necessary to bring up old arguments?
>
> Raymond is a highly respected member of this list, and your post shows why
> you may never reach that same status.
>
> Simply wish him well, let bygones be bygones, and let it rest!
>
> >  That your medical condition will be taken care of is
> >  assured. You wil get the best med care in this country.You
> >  have a strong will to take care of what medicines cant.
> >
> >  But Sir, you were biased in this tech forum. Biased to
> >  CCIE. Admit that.I can re-direct your postings to you to
> >  show that.
> >
> >  Non-CCIE also can build and support networks.
> >
> >  You take care Raymond. BTW, how many people from this forum
> >  have you really "placed"  Any figures ?
> >
> >
> >  --- Raymond Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > Laughter is the best medicine and I am a fighter. I
> >  > survived cancer when I
> >  > was 16 and that made me grow and mature faster than most.
> >  > I will also miss
> >  > this group for all the good times we had and for the vast
> >  > amount of
> >  > knowledge absorbed in this tiny little brain of mine!
> >  >
> >  > Again, thank you and the rest of this group for
> >  > everything.
> >  >
> >  > Best regards,
> >  >
> >  > Raymond Thomas
> >  > Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
> >  > 295 Northern Blvd Suite 302
> >  > Great Neck, NY 11021
> >  > (516)498-2300 ext. 103
> >  > (516)498-1749 fax
> >  > (917)444-1334 pager
> >  > Web: http://lewisconsultants.com
> >  > 
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > -Original Message-
> >  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >  > Rodgers Moore
> >  > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:49 PM
> >  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  > Subject: Re: Tomorrow is my last day as a consultant on
> >  > this group
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Raymond,
> >  >
> >  > It has been our pleasure to have you amoung us.  You are
> >  > definately the
> >  > exception to the rule and will be missed because of it.
> >  > If I hear any good
> >  > jokes, I'll forward them.  I hear laughter is the best
> >  > medicine.
> >  >
> >  > Good luck and GET WELL,
> >  >
> >  > Rodgers Moore
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > ""Raymond Thomas"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> >  > in message
> >  >
> >  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >  > > To all my friends on this board, my last day is
> >  > tomorrow (22nd of Sept.).
> >  > I
> >  > > want to thank the group for all the kind words and
> >  > support. I had made
> >  > some
> >  > > close friends from this group... you all know who you
> >  > are.
> >  > >
> >  > > As many of you know, I have to get treatment for a
> >  > medical condition that
> >  > I
> >  > > came down with last month, so I will be out of the
> >  > recruitment world for
> >  > an
> >  > > indefinite amount of time...

Re: VOIP Troubles

[Jason]

You can also try calculating bandwidth at www.erlang.com

John Deatherage wrote:

> Some things that might help: 1. Are you using CODEC like G.729 that
> works at an 8Kbps bit rate?  If not, you'll be hating life.2.
> Bandwidth at full rate & Multilink PPP (MLPPP) or FRF.12 will still be
> 17.2kbps.3. You need QoS, even if you can burst to port speed at
> 56kbps.4. Consider LLQ for Frame Relay for your QoS, which is now
> supported in IOS as of 12.1(2)T.  We had to use this to get good voice
> quality on a moderately saturated FR link with a 1.544mbps CIR.5. You
> may need QoS on your LAN if the links are congested near the 3640.
> Look at QoS as an end-to-end solution.6. Perform ping tests from the
> 3640 to your remote sites to get a better idea of how many ms the
> round trip is.  Try pings from both sides. Things to keep in mind:-
> VoIP overhead will kill you - you need to do testing to figure out
> exactly how much bandwidth you are using.- Good luck doing this over
> 56kbps, even if you use the full line.
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Chris Boyd
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 1:08 PM
>  Subject: VOIP Troubles
>   All right guys I need some help I have been working
>  with Cisco for a while now on a VOIP issue.  The problems
>  lies in both call disconnects and voice distortion.  We have
>  followed all the steps for traffic shaping (QOS) and rtp
>  header-compression but these do not seem to help.  We have
>  150 remote sites all running 2600's with FXS modules that
>  all come back into the host site where we have 2 7206's.
>  Each of these links are 56k frame-relay links with 16k CIR
>  running very few applications mostly small transactions and
>  Citrix clients.  The call must then traverse two internal
>  Ethernet segments, routing through our 6509 backbone switch
>  and then into a 3640 before hitting the PBX.  Cisco seems to
>  think that we need to increase our bandwidth to support the
>  voice traffic, however, that is not something I have been
>  able to sell to the "powers that be".  We sold this idea on
>  cutting cost and in our estimations for upping the CIR to
>  even 32k will be significant cost increase.  Right now I am
>  shaping to 16k with an 8k committed burst so at any one time
>  I should be able to burst to 24k.  Assuming that I am able
>  to burst to port speed (56k) why would I have call
>  distortion unless there is some latency coming through the
>  ISP's switch?  We also have another company site that also
>  comes back in this way and we have no problems with those
>  calls.O.K. that being said (and hopefully not too confusing
>  to follow) here come the questions: 1.Has anyone else
>  implemented VOIP in slow links successfully?2.Is anyone
>  else having QOS problems with their VOIP
>  implementations?3.Do I need to prioritize the voice
>  traffic through the local network?4.Has anyone tried
>  turning off traffic shaping and letting the voice and data
>  compete for bandwidth? Thanks in advance for your
>  feedback!
>  Thanks, Chris Boyd, CCNA
>  Network Support
>  Alex Lee, Inc.
>  120 4th Street SW
>  Hickory, NC 28601
>  (828) 323-4103
>  http://www.alexlee.com
>

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Re: [Beware of VINCENT CHONG [7:1631] and RamG [7:1676]

[Jason]

And let me guess, this is copyrighted materials ? ;-) That's one of the
problem with trading of copyrighted materials

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> Please, never blame the whole Community/Country for the fault of one
person,
> I
> have couple of CHINESE friends, they are very nice & they never do this
kind
> of Cheating.
>
> IN SHORT
> "NEVER BLAME THE WHOLE WORLD IF YOU HAPPENED TO DEAL WITH ONLY CHEATERS"
> that you can call circumstances nothing else.
>
> I hope you might have Apologise THE CHINESE, if not so, please do it.
> Thanks & regards
> Manishkumar (MK)
>
> "RamG"  wrote:
> > Hello Gang
> >
> > Just want to keep you all informed on the board not to deal in any form
of
> > TRADE {CCIE Material }or BUYING accessories from VINCENT CHONG.  I had a
> bad
> > experience today.  We had entered into an agreement to trade CCIE
> materials.
> > I sent him soft copy of my materials and requested him to make hard copy
of
> > his material.  The price for hard copy of his material was mutually
agreed
> > at USD.22.  I sincerely sent him the money through pay pal. To my
surprise
> > he has declined accepting the money and is not interested to send the
> > material.  Like a KID he sent me this reply  Quote "I will send back
your
> > material and I do not want to trade anymore. I will removed from my hard
> > disk." Is this the way CHINESE behave.  Surprised.
> >
> > This is not a complaint.  Beware of this GUY - VINCENT CHONG.
> >
> >
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Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]

[Jason]

What protocol would you have in Enterprise that you need for a CCIE and is
not avial in the Desktop ?
NOT that I would recommend the 1700 either

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> Phil,
>
> 1700's wont run enterprise IOS.  I really dont recommend them for a lab
> router.
>
> FYI
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796
> cisco gear:  www.optsys.net
>
> ""Circusnuts""  wrote in message
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> > Don't forget the 3600's do Voice, ATM, & Fast Ethernet.  You may find
the
> > 4500 Fast Ethernet modules cost more than anything for 3600 router.  We
> > replaced a lot of Government 45's & 4700's with 3600 routers, when
pricing
> > modules.  If you have the 4500's already, I would think the 1700's would
> be
> > the best Voice router for the money.  I would assume- with a reasonable
> > discount, you could outfit 2 complete Voice 1700's for around 3,000.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Michael Bambic
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:02 PM
> > Subject: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]
> >
> >
> > > I am putting together a document for my company to purchase 5 CCIE
labs
> > and
> > > I need help with the VOIP equip part.
> > > I plan on using
> > > 3 2501's
> > > 1 25011
> > > 3 4000M
> > > 2 4500's
> > > 1 Catalyst 5000
> > > 1 Catalyst 3920 tr switch
> > > 1 Lightstream 100 ATM switch
> > >
> > > The 2 of the 4500's will have ATM interfaces and 1 of those 2 will
have
> an
> > 4
> > > port serial and the other a FastEthernet interface to support trunking
> for
> > > the 5000 switch which will have a Sup II module and the 12 port 10/100
> > > module. This leaves one open slot per 4500, could I implement voice on
> > these
> > > routers and what card would I need? Any other outside equipment
> required?
> > > What memory requirements?
> > > Thanks for helping my laziness as I'm tired of pouring over the CCO
cd.
> > > :)
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Mike Bambic
> > > Lead Mentor
> > > Phoenix Branch
> > > 602-955-5888
> > > Cisco Regional Business Development Manager
> > > TechSkills
> > > www.techskills.com
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CCIE IOS version?? [7:2223]

[Jason]

What version of IOS is used in the CCIE lab exam?  Cisco's site says  "IOS
features up to and including version 12.0 will be tested on the exam. "


What version should I load on practice lab routers?




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Re: OFF TOPIC -Job Offer without Interview?? [7:2369]

[Jason]

This is basically what is known as a bodyshop. You are a mechandise, you fit
the decription, the price match. He doesn't care if you can do the job, if
you cannot, he will just replaced you. I would suggest that you call him
back and inform him that should you go down and they changed their mind,
they are expected to pay you for time wasted IF you need a job. Otherwise,
don't bother


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>
> I need some input (comments, criticisms, enlightenment, suggestions, etc.)
> rather quickly.  I'm in the DC metro area. Someone grabbed my resume off
> Monster and called me two weeks ago -- asked NO technical questions -- and
> basically gave me a brief synopsis of his company -- confirmed my salary
> requirements -- and said he would "circulate my resume to others in his
> company" and "if there was interest, he'd get back to me."
>
> Last nite -- Friday 4/27 at about 8:00 p.m., he calls again -- asks only
if
> I'm available -- and then says I can report to work on Tuesday 5/1.
Again,
> no technical questions -- simply confirmed my salary requirements -- and
> simply wanted me to FAX a copy of my certs to him.  Nothing else.
>
> Then I slowed him down.  Asked about benefits, including training, etc.
and
> then asked about the "job"  Turns out he has a contract with a
> Freddie-something? Agency and needs a NP/DP as he put it (CCNP/CCDP) to
show
> up on Tuesday for about 3 mos.  Althought he assured me that I would be a
> PERMANENT employee and he had other projects to put me on after this job
was
> complete. When I pushed questions about the benefits, he offered to have
his
> benefits person call me Monday -- until I suggested that I come to his
> company offices Monday to "SEE" his site.
>
> Now I have to decide whether this is really a suitable position to want to
> put on my resume, and whether it's really legit.  I have serious doubts
> about someone who would hire an employee over the phone, sight unseen (I
> could be picking my toes, drinking beer, a fat old redneck! -- I'm not!).
> If he's willing to hire in such a fashion -- isn't he doing a disservice
to
> his client -- and won't he be just as likely to fire me -- on a whim.  Is
> this a safe job -- am I really going to get paid?  What do I say to the
> client if asked??  I''ve got very bad vibes about this -- but I don't know
> if my suspicions are justified!!!
>
> All replies will be appreciated!
>
> Greg Macaulay
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Re: Cannot browse Some Website: Try this: www.sitemeter.com [7:2431]

[Jason]

Should the very first thing that you should do in this case is to check what
ports they are attempting to connected to in reverse direction ?


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> More info on this:
>
> When we by pass PIX (plus in a laptop to a hub between PIX and Internet
> router). We CAN browse www.sitemeter.com.
>
> Behind PIX, we can ping www.sitemeter.com and get 100% reply from
> 216.167.17.2. But we CANNOT browse using IE.
>
> Route is going to the correct gateway, do not have 216.167.17 in our WAN.
>
> So HTTP/application layer coming from the site is definately blocked in
the
> PIX.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ken Yeo
> Network Engineer
> Aurum Technology
> CCNP, CCDA, MCSE, CNE
>
> ""Ken Yeo""  wrote in message
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> > Hi,
> >
> > We are having problem to browse this website:
> >
> > www.sitemeter.com
> >
> > Internet explorer will say "Opening page http://www.sitemeter.com"; in
the
> > status bar on the bottom and the page never came up. It came back with
> > error:
> >
> > The page cannot be displayed
> > We are able to browse the site using dialup to Netzero and some other
dial
> > up ISP.
> > I wonder those of you who use PIX try this site?
> > Our first thought was reserve DNS was not setup so we setup reserve DNS
> for
> > the NATed IP on the PIX, but still cannot browse the site. Any ideas?
> > Thanks,
> > Ken Yeo
> > Network Engineer,
> > Aurum Technology
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Re: Juniper on FreeBSD [7:1303]

[Jason]

Did anybody ever got this working ? I would like to know your experience.
Thks.

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> Phil,
>
> Thanks for the infor.
> I am trying to download the JunOS from our internal company website. I
just
> want to verify if I will have to make it LS120 image. As I don't have
LS120
> handy, but I do have some spare hard drives. I wonder if it can boot from
> LS120, should it be bootable from normal hard drive?
> I guess I will have to format the hard drive from BSD, and copy the file
to
> it, just wonder if you or others have done this before. If  LS120 is the
> only or easiest way, I will just go and get one.
>
> Thanks
> KY
>
>
> ""Phillip Heller""  wrote in message
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> > The Olive is simply the JunOS code running on a compatible PC.
> >
> > If you've got the JunOS package, make the LS120 image, get an intel
based
> > pc with an LS120 drive.  The image should just boot.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --phil
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, KY wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Any of you ever had luck on porting Juniper to a FreeBSD box?
> > I heard that you could download the Junos and then tweak the BSD so
> that
> > make it just like the real box. I know Olive, but I guess that is
> > something
> > else, although anybody can give me or tell me how to get a copy of
> Olive
> > would be appreciated.
> >
> > I could not find any thing from FreeBSD sites, any input would be
> > helpful.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > KY
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Re: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

[Jason]

Answer 1 is correct. A flap is one transition, either from down to up or
from up to down.

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> Greetings All
>
> I am in the process of writing a BGP class, at present I am specifically
> working on a section covering dampening.
>
> My question is "what is a flap"
>
> The two possible answers are:
>
>
> Answer one
> A flap is whenever path information changes for a route. By this
definition
> if a route goes away, that would be a flap. When the route comes back,
that
> would be another flap.
> So a route going away then coming back would be 2 flaps.
>
>
> Answer two
> A flap is a route transition from up to down back to up. So a route going
> away then coming back would count as one flap.
>
>
>
> I am mucking with this in my lab and the lab would seem to indicate that
> answer two is the correct one, but when I read the Sam Halabi copyright
> 1997 internet routing architectures book, page 440 and 441 it says the
> answer is Answer one.
>
> I am at best confused
>
> Any help?
> Tom Pruneau
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Re: Question .. CCIE lab and scheduling! [7:2461]

[Jason]

If you make a booking for Singapore, you still can make it !!

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> I've got a question that someone here will know the answer to.
>
> I took my CCIE written  last August and due to a busy work schedule and
lots
> of other certification requirements (AVVID, WLAN and other vendors) I have
> not been able to schedule my lab.  Now I'm getting ready to change jobs
and
> will immediately be looking to
> schedule my lab at the new company.  If the written test is only good for
a
> year ... when does this expiration kick in ? Is it based on
> the day you TAKE the lab or when you sign up to take the lab?  With the
long
> wait to get into the lab will I be required to spend another $200 if my
lab
> can't happen before August? I'm sure someone who has taken the lab has
been
> through this same scenario
> already.
>
> Thanks for your input ..
>
>
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Re: Question .. CCIE lab and scheduling! [7:2461]

[Jason]

Guess it's nice to be called "stupid" by someone who asked for advises.
Teach all of us not to response in future to stupid questions in the first
place.
Why did you bother to take the written in the first place, why not be
prepared for the lab and then take the written ? Sure as hell save all your
headaches !!
Between waiting 6 months and doing the lab at the nearest possible time, I'm
sure there are enough people "smart enough" to tell you that it might just
be worth it.


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> For all that responded with the "go to an international test site" ...
come
> on guys .. get real .. Pay thousands for travel or take another $200 (or
now
> 300) test.  Anyone smart enough to be pursuing their CCIE knows the answer
> to that question!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> "Tony"  wrote in message
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> > I've got a question that someone here will know the answer to.
> >
> > I took my CCIE written  last August and due to a busy work schedule and
> lots
> > of other certification requirements (AVVID, WLAN and other vendors) I
have
> > not been able to schedule my lab.  Now I'm getting ready to change jobs
> and
> > will immediately be looking to
> > schedule my lab at the new company.  If the written test is only good
for
> a
> > year ... when does this expiration kick in ? Is it based on
> > the day you TAKE the lab or when you sign up to take the lab?  With the
> long
> > wait to get into the lab will I be required to spend another $200 if my
> lab
> > can't happen before August? I'm sure someone who has taken the lab has
> been
> > through this same scenario
> > already.
> >
> > Thanks for your input ..
> >
> >
> > Tony
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Re: Free Cisco CCIE labs [7:2705]

[Jason]

Why do people assume that there is a significant differences between
studying for CCNP and CCIE ? The same materials used for CCIE can be used
for CCNP , especially when it come to the practical.


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> is there anything out for the ccnp track?
>
> Lowell E. Sharrah
> SBC-DataComm
> 517-241-7059 wk
> 517-360-0481 pgr
> 517-930-1993 cell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >>> "EA Louie"  05/01/01 11:32AM >>>
> All-In-One Cisco. CCIE Lab Study Guide by Stephen Hutnik, Michael
> Satterlee. Hardcover (September 17, 1999)
>
> try browsing this page for some other 'ideas'
>
> http://www.networkdesigner.net/books/ccie_books.asp
>
> good luck with your lab setup!  please keep us posted on your development
> and advancement toward the CCIE Lab Exam
>
> -e-
> - Original Message -
> From: "LandCai"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:48 PM
> Subject: Free Cisco CCIE labs [7:2705]
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >I am preparing to setup a cisco CCIE labs which could be exposed onto
> > Internet for free access just from my personal view. what I need now is
a
> > sample design for this lab, I want to test all kinds of popular
protocols,
> > including BGP, EIGRP, OSPF, TCP/IP.IPX/SPX, APPLETALK, ISDN., FR, ATM,
> etc.
> > Could you give me any suggestion on this, or give some sample on design
so
> I
> > could start to buy?
> >
> > thanks
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Re: Free Cisco CCIE labs [7:2705]

[Jason]

Well , if your requirement is just CCNP (certifications) , then obviously no
lab is necessary. If your requirement is CCNP level of knowledge. Using a
book meant for CCIE Lab doesn't do any harm and in fact is just as relevant.
One of the most commonly overlook materials for CCIE preparation is actually
the courseware for CCNP's courses.. I'm sometimes amazed at some of the
questioned asked (including by me) that can be found in the ICND, BSCN, etc
courseware....




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> I guess it all depends on your end-goal.  If you're content with the CCNP
> (or have some requirement to have just that), then why go into the depth
of
> the CCIE materials?
>
> Anyway, the URL is accessible from:
> Cisco.com -> Training/Certifications -> Select Certification -> CCNP
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.ht
> ml (watch the wrap).
>
> You can click on any of the 4 exam links and get details on each test.
>
> :::waiting on Cisco TAC to answer the phone:::
>
> --
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>
>
>
> ""Jason""  wrote in message
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> > Why do people assume that there is a significant differences between
> > studying for CCNP and CCIE ? The same materials used for CCIE can be
used
> > for CCNP , especially when it come to the practical.
> >
> >
> > ""Lowell Sharrah""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > is there anything out for the ccnp track?
> > >
> > > Lowell E. Sharrah
> > > SBC-DataComm
> > > 517-241-7059 wk
> > > 517-360-0481 pgr
> > > 517-930-1993 cell
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > >>> "EA Louie"  05/01/01 11:32AM >>>
> > > All-In-One Cisco. CCIE Lab Study Guide by Stephen Hutnik, Michael
> > > Satterlee. Hardcover (September 17, 1999)
> > >
> > > try browsing this page for some other 'ideas'
> > >
> > > http://www.networkdesigner.net/books/ccie_books.asp
> > >
> > > good luck with your lab setup!  please keep us posted on your
> development
> > > and advancement toward the CCIE Lab Exam
> > >
> > > -e-
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "LandCai"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:48 PM
> > > Subject: Free Cisco CCIE labs [7:2705]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > >I am preparing to setup a cisco CCIE labs which could be exposed
> onto
> > > > Internet for free access just from my personal view. what I need now
> is
> > a
> > > > sample design for this lab, I want to test all kinds of popular
> > protocols,
> > > > including BGP, EIGRP, OSPF, TCP/IP.IPX/SPX, APPLETALK, ISDN., FR,
ATM,
> > > etc.
> > > > Could you give me any suggestion on this, or give some sample on
> design
> > so
> > > I
> > > > could start to buy?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
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Re: Question about Teltone ISDN demonstrator [7:2687]

[Jason]

Depending on the particular model of the Teltone demostrator... some of them
has build in U AND S/T interfaces


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> Anyone have some NT1s for sale cheap. I see that all my BRIs are S/t
> interfaces.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Raul
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daniel Cotts"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:04 AM
> Subject: RE: Question about Teltone ISDN demonstrator [7:2687]
>
>
> > The Demonstrator has U interfaces only. The other model can be either.
> Check
> > out www.teltone.com
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tommy Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 6:28 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Question about Teltone ISDN demonstrator [7:2687]
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Raul F. Fernandez""  wrote in message
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> > > > I have 2523,2521,2504..if I get a demonstrator(Teltone)
> > > will I need
> > > > external NT1s ?
> > >
> > > No.  It comes with both S/T and U interfaces.
> > >
> > > Tommy
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Re: port number list on DOS [7:2809]

[Jason]

You can check for well-know ports. Also there are various utilities that
will allow you to link the ports to the process running on the machine. Most
of these utils will work only on NT or W2K since Win9X is somewhat braindead
in TCPIP


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> netstat -a
>
> If you find out how to track down what the various ports are really being
> used for, let me know. I asked about this a while back. So far no one has
> suggested anything useful except for monitoring and asking security
related
> lists.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 4:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: port number list on DOS [7:2809]
>
>
> OK, I have a DOS question that really is relevant to Cisco networking
(sort
> of. ;-) This came up a couple months ago, but I can't find the answer in
> the archives.
>
> What is the DOS command to see port numbers (services) in use on a PC?
> Someone posted a command that would let you see the list of TCP and UDP
> port numbers. One of my students asked how to do this and I remembered
that
> there was a command, but I couldn't remember what it was.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Priscilla
>
> 
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
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Re: Disable telnet port (Cisco Trivia) [7:3289]

[Jason]

1. I assume across WAN means using routable protocol.
2. IPX is the alternative routable protocol.
3. SNMP supports IPX ... Not having tested that with Cisco, I cannot be
sure... is that one of the solutions ?

Jason

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> No it's not a bug or security hole.
>
> The object is to connect to a router remotely (i.e. over a WAN) that
doesn't
> have an IP address configured.
>
> Brian
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:49 PM
> > To: Brian Dennis
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Disable telnet port (Cisco Trivia) [7:3287]
> >
> >
> > hmm, no ip, no console?
> >
> > Running other routing protocols?
> >
> > What are you trying to do?
> >
> > If its your router, you should know the ios version, some have known
> > weaknesses.
> >
> > Brian "Sonic" Whalen
> > Success = Preparation + Opportunity
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 5 May 2001, Brian Dennis wrote:
> >
> > > Anyone know how to get to a Cisco router remotely that doesn't
> > have an IP
> > > address configured on it? Going in through a console, aux or async
line
> > > doesn't count.
> > >
> > > Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640
> > > 5G Networks, Inc.
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 925) 260-2724
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
> > > > EA Louie
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:00 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Disable telnet port [7:3237]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you have the right version of IOS, you can
> > > > transport input ssh
> > > >
> > > > and to answer Chuck's questions, there is a way to disable telnet
and
> > > > everything else,
> > > > transport input none
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: Jacques Atlas
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:12 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Disable telnet port [7:3237]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 4 May 2001, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > |By "telnet port" do you mean TCP port 23. Or do you mean the
VTY's
> > > > > |themselves?
> > > > > |
> > > > > |If the latter, the most effective way is to require a
> > login but set no
> > > > > |password.
> > > > > |Eg
> > > > > |
> > > > > |Line vty 0 4
> > > > > |Login
> > > > >
> > > > > anyone know if you can _disable_ telnet to a cisco and only ssh ?
> > > > >
> > > > > something like "no service telnet" would be great
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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Re: CCIE LAB TEST [7:3333]

[Jason]

No. You only need to know RIP . But don't take my word for it !! Check it
out at http://www.microsoft.com/warp/public/625/ccie/

;-)




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> Are ATM and VOIP a part of CCIE routing and switching lab test?
>
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Re: linux on a 2500 ? Was: Programming under IOS [7:3362]

[Jason]

It has already BEEN done !! :-)

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> netbsd is the most portable of the free nixes, thatd be the one to expect,
> if one could do it.
>
> Brian Whalen
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eric Waguespack" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: linux on a 2500 ? Was: Programming under IOS
>
>
> > You can run Linux on a 2500? I searched the archive for more details..
> didn't find any, anyone got a link?
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> > Karen E Young wrote:
> >
> > > Chee Leong,
> > >
> > > There really isn't a need to write an external interface method (such
as
> sockets) when one already exists.
> > >
> > > Most, if not all, of what you're asking for is available via SNMP. If
> you really want to write a program to obtain this info all you need to do
is
> write one to issue SNMP GETs for the info you want to obtain, collect the
> responses, parse the data, and format it into your chosen format.
> > >
> > > Perl is a pretty good choice for something like this and it seems to
me
> that I ran across something in Visual Basic that would let you do it too.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > Karen Young
> > >
> > > *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
> > >
> > > On 3/30/2001 at 10:30 AM Ryan O'Connell wrote:
> > >
> > > >There is no porvision for running code other than the IOS itself on a
> Cisco
> > > >router. (Except you can run Linux on 2500s, but that's probably not
> what
> > > >you're after)
> > > >
> > > >On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 04:14:43PM -0800, Tan Chee Leong wrote:
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> First, my apologies if the question makes no sense at all as I am
> just =
> > > >> evaluating it's possibility.  I am also fairly new to CISCO stuff
> (only =
> > > >> got my CCNA a month ago) so your advise on this will be very
helpful
> =
> > > >> although it is off-topic.
> > > >>
> > > >> I am thinking of writing some small programs within the IOS
platform
> =
> > > >> such that it can communicate with an external host, using socket =
> > > >> programming if you like.  I am interested in obtaining the
following:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1.basic configuration.  I know it's contained in the
> startup-config =
> > > >> and with snmp turned on, this information can be retrieved.
However,
> =
> > > >> what if snmp is not turned on?  Is it possible, without going to
all
> the =
> > > >> routers to enable snmp, to still obtain this information from a
host
> =
> > > >> using tcp? =20
> > > >> 2.route table.  Particularly I am interested in studying the
> dynamic =
> > > >> changes of the route table over some period of time.  Hence if the
=
> > > >> router can periodically send information to some internal host
within
> =
> > > >> the network, a collection of route tables can be obtained.
> > > >>
> > > >> If in the end I have to do my own programming, it will lead on to =
> > > >> several other questions:=20
> > > >>
> > > >> 1.is it feasible in the first place, given that CISCO IOS is =
> > > >> proprietory stuff? =20
> > > >> 2.where can I get programming info?  any recommendations?
> > > >>
> > > >> Really appreciate if you can help me on this.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >> Chee Leong
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Ryan O'Connell -  -
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> > > >
> > > >I'm not losing my mind, no I'm not changing my lines,
> > > >I'm just learning new things with the passage of time




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Re: RIPv2 vs. RIP [7:3404]

[Jason]

Why are you trying to migrate if you don't know the differences ?

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> trying to migrate to RIPv2, but some devices only support RIPv1.  Is there
> any workaround to have RIPv2 and RIP compatable?  Thanks all in advance!
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Re: Olicom switch [7:5815]

[Jason]

Is this legal ?

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> Try a later version of code.  4.1(3) should work.  We have been loading
that
> version of code on the Olicom's we've been selling.
>
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796
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> > Hello All -
> >
> > I just downloaded the Cat 3920 code 3.0(7) to an Olicom 8600. Now it
gives
> > me a message which says:
> >
> > FATAL SYSTEM ERROR: Unknown System Board ID
> >
> > It was my understanding (based on what I heard here) that this switch is
> Cat
> > 3920 compatible. Anyone know a) how to break in/recover from this mess
> > and/or b) what is a good image to use for the box?
> >
> > Im totally hosed, so any help is appreciated!
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Re: DHCP Servers and IP assignment [7:6562]

[Jason]

Here is a good URL

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=DHCP
http://www.altavista.com/sites/search/web?q=DHCP&kl=XX&pg=q


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> Hello group,
>
> I have a nagging question about how the DHCP server assigns an IP address
to
> a DHCP client from the correct pool of addresses. Let me give a scenario
so
> that you understand my concerns.
>
> A host called Subnet_A _Client sends a dhcp request. The router's
interface
> on subnet A is Ethernet_A. The router sends the dhcp request to subnet B,
> where the DHCP server resides. The router's interface on subnet B is
> Ethernet_B.
>
> My question is how will  the DHCP server know that the dhcp request is
> coming from subnet A?
> Will the DHCP server unicast or broadcast the dhcp reply? To which address
> will the server unicast its dhcp reply?
>
> If someone can help me or refer me to a good online document that will
> answer my questions, I will appreciate it.
>
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: DHCP Servers and IP assignment [7:6562]

[Jason]

Chuck,

I'm not sure if you noticed, but the first page  on the search engine would
actually show the link for RFC 1541. Is that consider a succinct answer ?


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> Knowing others will give you a succinct answer, I would also suggest you
can
> take a peek at RFC 1541
>
> ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1541.txt
>
> for some details, such as the DHCP request packet format. In there you
will
> find a field defined as giaddr   ( Relay agent IP address, used in booting
> via a relay-agent. )  The router forwarding the DHCP request populates
this
> field. The DHCP server reads the value in this field and makes the
> assignment from the appropriate scope.
>
> If you have nothing to do for several days, you can also check out this
> book:
>
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578701376/o/qid=991282285/sr=2-1/ref
> =aps_sr_b_1_1/102-2752665-3470535
> watch the wrap on this one
>
> hard to imagine one could fill a book with this stuff ;->
>
> Chuck
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Lists Wizard
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:02 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: DHCP Servers and IP assignment [7:6562]
>
> Hello group,
>
> I have a nagging question about how the DHCP server assigns an IP address
to
> a DHCP client from the correct pool of addresses. Let me give a scenario
so
> that you understand my concerns.
>
> A host called Subnet_A _Client sends a dhcp request. The router's
interface
> on subnet A is Ethernet_A. The router sends the dhcp request to subnet B,
> where the DHCP server resides. The router's interface on subnet B is
> Ethernet_B.
>
> My question is how will  the DHCP server know that the dhcp request is
> coming from subnet A?
> Will the DHCP server unicast or broadcast the dhcp reply? To which address
> will the server unicast its dhcp reply?
>
> If someone can help me or refer me to a good online document that will
> answer my questions, I will appreciate it.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Lw
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Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6712]

[Jason]

This is becoming one of those why do NT guys look down on Unix guys
thing. I once seen a Unix admin attend a NT course and was rejected by
the trainer on the first day because he doesn't know how to use a mouse, and
the trainer insisted that he is not going to train someone how to use the
mouse on a Admin course.


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> There really was an NB which stood for New B. It's wasn't a joke. ;-)
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 07:11 PM 5/31/01, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
> >Basic Computer Programming Language, which became B, which became C.
> >
> >
> > >B and New B.
> > >
> > >Priscilla
> > >
> > >At 06:39 PM 5/31/01, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
> > >>  >Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex?  Remind them that DOS is UNIX
> >subset.
> > >>>The multi-tasking & multi-threaded functions were dropped because
there
> > >>>weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel 8088. These were
> added
> > >>>back in when the hardware for PC's was available. However, they did
add
> > >>>better mnemonics for the UNIX commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy'
> > >>>translates to 'stupid' somehow. But even so it's UNIX!  DOS is UNIX!
> > >>>tee-hee.
> > >>>
> > >>>DOS clowns.
> > >>>UNIX dweebs.
> > >>>NT geeks.
> > >>>Cisco nerds.
> > >>>Where's Diane Arbus when we need her?
> > >>>
> > >>>- susan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Get back to the origins of the name UNIX.  Pronounced aloud, is there
> > >>an English word that comes to mind?
> > >>
> > >>The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS.  UNIX is castrated MULTICS.
> > >>
> > >>Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first one isn't
A).
> > >
> > >
> > >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > >http://www.priscilla.com
> 
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
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Re: VOIP problem on two differrent router [7:760]

[Jason]

The defaults for the codex might have changed in the versions...

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> Dear Hieu,
> Yes it can be because of mismatch of cisco ios.
> Try using same version ob both the routers. It should work.
> I too faced the same problem.
>
> Regards
>
> Rajeev
>
> Hieu Truong wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > I currently use two Cisco router 2611 with IOS: 12.0(3)T3, VIC 2 ports
E&M.
> > The VoIP works fine on these two one. Now I replace one of the Cisco
2611
> by
> > Cisco 3662 version 12.1(2a)XH, and restore the configuration from C2611
to
> > C3662. All the setting for C3662 is the same as the previous C2611.
However
> > the
> > VoIP can not work. After the dial, I got the strangely sound.
> >
> > Does anyone of you have experienced of this? Does it cause by different
> IOS?
> >
> > Thnks.
> >
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Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6737]

[Jason]

Must be , if you believe that, you will believe anything ha ha

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> Maybe the trainer wasn't qualified to teach mouse operations, as the
> topic wasn't spoon fed to him in the course notes...
>
> Alan
> (Sinister laugh, BOFH style...)
>
> - Original Message -
> > This is becoming one of those why do NT guys look down on Unix guys
> > thing. I once seen a Unix admin attend a NT course and was
> rejected by
> > the trainer on the first day because he doesn't know how to use a
> mouse, and
> > the trainer insisted that he is not going to train someone how to
> use the
> > mouse on a Admin course.




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Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6738]

[Jason]

They will not hate another "UNIX" system, they just cannot agree what is a
unix system !! They hate anything that allows a manager to understand what
they are doing. i.e. NOTHING.



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> you are talking bullshit man..
> A true UNIX guys do not hate another UNIX systems.
> They simply accept as if they are part of the family.
>
> This is totally different from windows...what a jerk !!!
>
> rgds.
> UNIX to the world
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Donald B Johnson jr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:43 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
> > [7:6641]
> >
> > Actually UNIX is a bunch of fanatic sects i.e. the sco guys hate the sun
> > guys hate the hp guys and  so on. Linux is a full blown cult.
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Circusnuts"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
> > [7:6344]
> >
> >
> > > Because Unix is all a cult !!!  The only thing worse than Unix guys,
are
> > > SNA/ Main Frame dudes (with their VTAM's, FEP's, & Lu Lu Sessions :o)
> > >
> > > Pray for me- I start Unix classes Friday :-P
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: Jim Bond
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
> > [7:6335]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Oh yeah?! I'm win2000 roll out project manager for a
> > > > fortune 500 company. I make $150 per hour. Hope you
> > > > can figure out, SMART Unix guy.
> > > >
> > > > And Chuck, no problem. I just don't like some people
> > > > (like SMART Russ) knows a little than others then show
> > > > off that much.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Russ Kreigh  wrote:
> > > > > We look down upon you because you have to brag about
> > > > > how much you make.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Jim Bond"
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:40 PM
> > > > > Subject: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on
> > > > > we NT guys? [7:6323]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > UNIX guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I make $240K per year, how much you make? Why you
> > > > > guys
> > > > > > look down on us??? I don't get it...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > NT guy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > __
> > > > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great
> > > > > prices
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Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6790]

[Jason]

What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token, therefore
Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was based on a working
operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all about ego ? If Unix
is finished in 1 month, why are there still people working on it ? On the
other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the hell are people working on it ? If
Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody using it ? Would you trust you ATM
machine to Linux ?



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> THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B
>
> ABSTRACT
> B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. Thompson, for
> primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming. These
> typically involve complex logical decision-making, and processing of
> integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS system, B programs
> are usually much easier to write and understand than assembly language
> programs, and object code efficiency is almost as good. Implementation of
> simple TSS subsystems is an especially appropriate use for B. This
technical
> report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) version of B
> (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of the features of
> the language (by B. W. Kernighan).
>
> Ken Thompson
>  The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of
> the B language, the predecessor of C.
>
> In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, often with
a
> note that read "Love, ken". Old-timers still use his first name (sometimes
> uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address) in third-person
> reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in particular) that without
a
> last name "Ken" refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis without
last
> name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr).
>
> Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge
> production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed to support
> hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three.
>
> In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up with
> Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People said "well,
> if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by one guy must be
> Unix!". There was some joking about eunichs as well.
>
> Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to visit family
in
> San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, etc., and
> finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was it
"Space
> Travel"?).
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
> [7:6675]
>
>
> >Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex?  Remind them that DOS is UNIX subset.
> >The multi-tasking & multi-threaded functions were dropped because there
> >weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel 8088. These were added
> >back in when the hardware for PC's was available. However, they did add
> >better mnemonics for the UNIX commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy'
> >translates to 'stupid' somehow. But even so it's UNIX!  DOS is UNIX!
> >tee-hee.
> >
> >DOS clowns.
> >UNIX dweebs.
> >NT geeks.
> >Cisco nerds.
> >Where's Diane Arbus when we need her?
> >
> >- susan
>
>
> Get back to the origins of the name UNIX.  Pronounced aloud, is there
> an English word that comes to mind?
>
> The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS.  UNIX is castrated MULTICS.
>
> Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first one isn't A).




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Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6857]

[Jason]

Actually, the joke was that IBM offered to upgrade the ATMs to NT4 for the
banks and NONE of the banks took up the offer...

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> Although I agree with "Every OS Sucks!" I just want to point out that the
> ATMs I deal with are not Linux or NT!! There OS2..
>
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> > Soapbox on:
> >
> > I think this says it all and that's all's I know.  (Courtesy of your
> friends
> > at Brainbuzz.com)
> >
> >
>
http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/video/everyossucks/default.asp?OSsucks=Open
> >
> > Soapbox Off:
> >
> >
> > "Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once
> and
> > I'm pretty sure it'll work !"
> >,
> >   /'^ ^'\
> >  ((o)-(o))
> > --oOOO--(_)--OOOo-
> > Carl Mirsky CCNP,CCDP,MCSE,SCSA,
> > Technical Solutions Architect
> > Covansys ( www.covansys.com )
> > 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100
> > Schaumburg, IL  60173
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >   .oooO
> > (   )  Oooo.
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Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6861]

[Jason]

Just when we are having fun !!! ?? ;-)


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> Wow, this mailing list sure attracts all kinds.
>
> Can we end this topic now?
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:05 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
> > [7:6790]
> >
> >
> > What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same
> > token, therefore
> > Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was based on
> > a working
> > operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all about
> > ego ? If Unix
> > is finished in 1 month, why are there still people working on
> > it ? On the
> > other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the hell are people
> > working on it ? If
> > Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody using it ? Would you
> > trust you ATM
> > machine to Linux ?
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Jim Dixon""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B
> > >
> > > ABSTRACT
> > > B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K.
> > L. Thompson, for
> > > primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming. These
> > > typically involve complex logical decision-making, and processing of
> > > integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS
> > system, B programs
> > > are usually much easier to write and understand than
> > assembly language
> > > programs, and object code efficiency is almost as good.
> > Implementation of
> > > simple TSS subsystems is an especially appropriate use for B. This
> > technical
> > > report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell
> > 6070) version of B
> > > (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of
> > the features of
> > > the language (by B. W. Kernighan).
> > >
> > > Ken Thompson
> > >  The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of
> > > the B language, the predecessor of C.
> > >
> > > In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution
> > tapes, often with
> > a
> > > note that read "Love, ken". Old-timers still use his first
> > name (sometimes
> > > uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address)
> > in third-person
> > > reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in
> > particular) that without
> > a
> > > last name "Ken" refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly,
> > Dennis without
> > last
> > > name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr).
> > >
> > > Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge
> > > production with many people working on it. Multics was
> > supposed to support
> > > hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three.
> > >
> > > In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got
> > fed up with
> > > Multics and went off to write his own operating system.
> > People said "well,
> > > if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by
> > one guy must be
> > > Unix!". There was some joking about eunichs as well.
> > >
> > > Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went
> > to visit family
> > in
> > > San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file
> > system, etc., and
> > > finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was it
> > "Space
> > > Travel"?).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
> > > [7:6675]
> > >
> > >
> > > >Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex?  Remind them that DOS
> > is UNIX subset.
> > > >The multi-tasking & multi-threaded functions were dropped
> > because there
> > > >weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel 8088.
> > These were added
> > > >back in when the hardware for PC's was available. However,
> > they did add
> > > >better mnemonics for the UNIX commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy'
> > > >translates to 'stupid' somehow. But even so it's UNIX!
> > DOS is UNIX!
> > > >tee-hee.
> > > >
> > > >DOS clowns.
> > > >UNIX dweebs.
> > > >NT geeks.
> > > >Cisco nerds.
> > > >Where's Diane Arbus when we need her?
> > > >
> > > >- susan
> > >
> > >
> > > Get back to the origins of the name UNIX.  Pronounced
> > aloud, is there
> > > an English word that comes to mind?
> > >
> > > The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS.  UNIX is castrated MULTICS.
> > >
> > > Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first
> > one isn't A).




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Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6860]

[Jason]

Yap, definitely sheltered !! :-) Most ATm runs on OS2, 2nd most popular is
NT. I don't see Linux there and I am not interested in seeing it there
either...  My bank account might end up being as open as their source ha
ha

""Jon Krabbenschmidt""  wrote in message
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> You think ATM's run on NT? If that were true than there would be a
"reboot"
> button on every ATM for customer convenience. :>)
> I always thought that behind every good ATM was a better Osborne ExecII?
Oh
> well what a sheltered life I live
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
> [7:6790]
>
>
> What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token,
therefore
> Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was based on a working
> operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all about ego ? If
Unix
> is finished in 1 month, why are there still people working on it ? On the
> other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the hell are people working on it ? If
> Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody using it ? Would you trust you ATM
> machine to Linux ?
>
>
>
> ""Jim Dixon""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B
> >
> > ABSTRACT
> > B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. Thompson,
for
> > primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming. These
> > typically involve complex logical decision-making, and processing of
> > integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS system, B
programs
> > are usually much easier to write and understand than assembly language
> > programs, and object code efficiency is almost as good. Implementation
of
> > simple TSS subsystems is an especially appropriate use for B. This
> technical
> > report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) version of
B
> > (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of the features
of
> > the language (by B. W. Kernighan).
> >
> > Ken Thompson
> >  The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of
> > the B language, the predecessor of C.
> >
> > In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, often
with
> a
> > note that read "Love, ken". Old-timers still use his first name
(sometimes
> > uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address) in
third-person
> > reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in particular) that
without
> a
> > last name "Ken" refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis without
> last
> > name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr).
> >
> > Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge
> > production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed to
support
> > hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three.
> >
> > In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up with
> > Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People said
"well,
> > if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by one guy must
be
> > Unix!". There was some joking about eunichs as well.
> >
> > Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to visit
family
> in
> > San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, etc., and
> > finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was it
> "Space
> > Travel"?).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
> > [7:6675]
> >
> >
> > >Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex?  Remind them that DOS is UNIX
subset.
> > >The multi-tasking & multi-threaded functions were dropped because there
> > >weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel 8088. These were
added
> > >back in when the hardware for PC's was available. However, they did add
> > >better mnemonics for the UNIX commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy'
> > >translates to 'stupid' somehow. But even so it's UNIX!  DOS is UNIX!
> > >tee-hee.
> > >
> > >DOS clowns.
> > >UNIX dweebs.
> > >NT geeks.
> > >Cisco nerds.
> > >Where's Diane Arbus when we need her?
> > >
> > >- susan
> >
> >
> > Get back to the origins of the name UNIX.  Pronounced aloud, is there
> > an English word that comes to mind?
> >
> > The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS.  UNIX is castrated MULTICS.
> >
> > Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first one isn't A).




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Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6862]

[Jason]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention, the game is SpaceWar... :-)

""Jason""  wrote in message
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> What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token,
therefore
> Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was based on a working
> operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all about ego ? If
Unix
> is finished in 1 month, why are there still people working on it ? On the
> other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the hell are people working on it ? If
> Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody using it ? Would you trust you ATM
> machine to Linux ?
>
>
>
> ""Jim Dixon""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B
> >
> > ABSTRACT
> > B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. Thompson,
for
> > primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming. These
> > typically involve complex logical decision-making, and processing of
> > integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS system, B
programs
> > are usually much easier to write and understand than assembly language
> > programs, and object code efficiency is almost as good. Implementation
of
> > simple TSS subsystems is an especially appropriate use for B. This
> technical
> > report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) version of
B
> > (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of the features
of
> > the language (by B. W. Kernighan).
> >
> > Ken Thompson
> >  The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of
> > the B language, the predecessor of C.
> >
> > In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, often
with
> a
> > note that read "Love, ken". Old-timers still use his first name
(sometimes
> > uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address) in
third-person
> > reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in particular) that
without
> a
> > last name "Ken" refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis without
> last
> > name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr).
> >
> > Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge
> > production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed to
support
> > hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three.
> >
> > In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up with
> > Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People said
"well,
> > if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by one guy must
be
> > Unix!". There was some joking about eunichs as well.
> >
> > Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to visit
family
> in
> > San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, etc., and
> > finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was it
> "Space
> > Travel"?).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
> > [7:6675]
> >
> >
> > >Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex?  Remind them that DOS is UNIX
subset.
> > >The multi-tasking & multi-threaded functions were dropped because there
> > >weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel 8088. These were
added
> > >back in when the hardware for PC's was available. However, they did add
> > >better mnemonics for the UNIX commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy'
> > >translates to 'stupid' somehow. But even so it's UNIX!  DOS is UNIX!
> > >tee-hee.
> > >
> > >DOS clowns.
> > >UNIX dweebs.
> > >NT geeks.
> > >Cisco nerds.
> > >Where's Diane Arbus when we need her?
> > >
> > >- susan
> >
> >
> > Get back to the origins of the name UNIX.  Pronounced aloud, is there
> > an English word that comes to mind?
> >
> > The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS.  UNIX is castrated MULTICS.
> >
> > Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first one isn't A).




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Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6859]

[Jason]

Oh, now the IOS is Unixish ?? Phew, so by that token, all Unix experts would
be CCIE... so I guess the number would include all the so call Unix/Linux
"experts"
I don't remember mentioning that the ATM runs NT, most of them actually run
OS2. The extra $$ you save from using open?? source OS would be waste on
support

In case you have not notice, Cisco is working on a GUI



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> "Jason" -
>
> By your logic, Windows NT 3.1 is all you need for your Enterprise to
> succeed.  Good luck in that endevour!
>
> In response to your other point, yes, I would trust my ATM server to
Linux.
> The blue screen is pretty but I would prefer to have money instead.  Oh..
> not to mention the extra money I would have from using a an open source OS
> rather than an M$ one...
>
> Perhaps Cisco should throw out the Unixish IOS and replace it with a GUI
so
> everyone could write configs for routers.  Sounds like a grand idea...
>
> Regards,
> Kelly
>
> > What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token,
> > therefore Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was based on
> > a working operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all about
> > ego ? If Unix is finished in 1 month, why are there still people
> > working on it ? On the other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the hell are
> > people working on it ? If Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody using
> > it ? Would you trust you ATM machine to Linux ?
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Jim Dixon""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B
> >>
> >> ABSTRACT
> >> B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. Thompson,
> >> for primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming.
> >> These typically involve complex logical decision-making, and
> >> processing of integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS
> >> system, B programs are usually much easier to write and understand
> >> than assembly language programs, and object code efficiency is almost
> >> as good. Implementation of simple TSS subsystems is an especially
> >> appropriate use for B. This
> > technical
> >> report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) version
> >> of B (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of the
> >> features of the language (by B. W. Kernighan).
> >>
> >> Ken Thompson
> >>  The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of
> >> the B language, the predecessor of C.
> >>
> >> In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, often
> >> with
> > a
> >> note that read "Love, ken". Old-timers still use his first name
> >> (sometimes uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address)
> >> in third-person reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in
> >> particular) that without
> > a
> >> last name "Ken" refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis without
> > last
> >> name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr).
> >>
> >> Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge
> >> production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed to
> >> support hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three.
> >>
> >> In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up with
> >> Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People said
> >> "well, if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by one
> >> guy must be Unix!". There was some joking about eunichs as well.
> >>
> >> Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to visit
> >> family
> > in
> >> San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, etc.,
> >> and finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was
> >> it
> > "Space
> >> Travel"?).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
> >> [7:6675]
> >>
> >>
> >> >Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex?  Remind them that DOS is UNIX
&g

Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6872]

[Jason]

You make me laugh even more...

1. When has that become a issue ? LOL

2 + 3 . So show me a Cisco router running x-windows since Cisco IOS is unix
based and Unix can run x-windows . :-) . X-Window is NOT Unix, but let's not
get technical here, you won't understand...

4. Yes, I would highly suggest that you do the same ..

5. I have not even bother to display any technical knowledge here, all this
are empty talk/arguement, anytime you have a this OS is better than that OS,
it is empty talk !! Absolutely no value in it at all. You should be aware of
that even before you reply to this message.


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> 1)  linux is not UNIX, similiar but not the same, check it out before
> speak it out.
>
> 2) Cisco IOS is Unix based since then.
>
> 3) I just hardly believe that, Unix can not be used GUI too.  Please
> tell me what is x-windows, CDE.
>
> 4)Please check out the information before you post.
>
> 5)The technical knowledge of this jason guy make me laugh and tyring
to
> show off...
>
> Correct me if i am wrong.
> abc




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Re: Technology Religion (was Re: last word: UNIX guys look down [7:6873]

[Jason]

Definitely agree with you here. Definitely should end the minute some people
start hidding behind fake emails and getting personal. :-)

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Re: Additions to CCIE R&S lab [7:34136]

[Jason]

Errr,

I thought Brad was the one who started the rumour that Cisco is going to
have  PIX , etc in the R&S lab some time back.. I'm too lazy to search for
the message but I'm sure more than a couple of people here will remember

J

P.s. If my lab is over and done with, and I'm a reseller for Cisco  , I'll
probably recommend that Cisco throw in everything that they have on the R&S
labs... sure as hell keep the competitions away...

""nrf""  wrote in message
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> Aw come on, Brad.  It's not a singular switch exam.  What about the
> Token-ring switch?  You know that Cisco added that thing to inject more
> realism into the lab.
>
> More seriously, I don't think you really need to have bigger, badder
boxes.
> Just more of them.  Honestly, there are a limited number of  things you
can
> do with 6 routers and 2-3 switches.  Heck, it's been a very long time
since
> I've worked on a production network that had that few boxes.  Granted,
those
> boxes on the exam are very 'busy'.  But still, if you could get a network
> of, say, 20-25 boxes going, the exam would be a lot more realistic.
> Probably wouldn't cost you as much as a single 6500 IDS blade either.
>
>
> ""Brad Ellis""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I really dont think Cisco is going to add another switch to each rack.
I
> > was under the impression they were trying to keep costs down for the
CCIE
> > lab exam, not increase costs substantially.  Maybe Im way off base here,
> can
> > anyone (or any proctor) that reads this let me know if I'm off base.
> >
> > I personally think it would be GREAT to have another switch or two in
the
> > lab.  After all, it is a ROUTING and SWITCHING certification, not a
> Routing
> > and Switch (singular) certification.  :)
> >
> > Throw a couple of 12000's in there, add an IDS blade to the 6500, throw
in
> a
> > bunch of layer 3 stuff with the 6500 and that would make for an
> interesting
> > lab, wouldnt it?
> >
> > thanks,
> > -Brad Ellis
> > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> > Network Learning Inc
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > used Cisco gear:  www.optsys.net
> > CCIE Labs, racks, and classes:
http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html
> >
> > ""Scott H.""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I have heard rumors of this, but no confirmation.  I have a week to go
> and
> > > sure would like to know if this is something I need to worry about.
> > >
> > > ""Tauseef Nagi""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Cisco's europe office in Brussels, Begium.
> > > >
> > > > Tauseef
> > > >
> > > > ""Scott H.""  wrote in message
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > source?
> > > > >
> > > > > ""Tauseef Nagi""  wrote in message
> > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Latest information coming out of Cisco regarding CCIE R&S lab is
> > that
> > > > > Cisco
> > > > > > will be adding more (complex) switching material to the lab
> > scenarios.
> > > > > This
> > > > > > will include two switches with routing engines, trunking between
> > > > switches,
> > > > > > pvlans, multicasting on switches, etc.
> > > > > > These new scenarios will began to appear in April of this year
at
> > the
> > > > > > earliest(if not already being tested) and formalized by July of
> this
> > > > year.
> > > > > > Can anyone confirm this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tauseef




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One Source [7:35313]

[Jason]

Be very careful if you are dealing with this company. They were formerly
Grandstore , until the name was trashed like @!#$ and then they became
IQSale , and then THAT name was trashed and now they changed name again.. So
BE CAREFUL !




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Re: One Source [7:35313]

[Jason]

Guess you are the lucky one !! I know of lots of people that never got the
replacements or refunds, so be warned.

""Woods, Randall, SOBUS""  wrote in message
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> It's funny that you mention that. I just recently bought a couple of
> routers from them off ebay and one of them was dead when I received it.
> I took almost a month to get a replacement. The one shipped did work but
> during the whole process, they never responded to email and never
> initiated a call to me to atleast let me know the status of the
> shipment. I guess it could have been worse but how hard is it to send a
> freakin' email?
>
> Woody
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: One Source [7:35313]
>
>
> Be very careful if you are dealing with this company. They were formerly
> Grandstore , until the name was trashed like @!#$ and then they became
> IQSale , and then THAT name was trashed and now they changed name
> again.. So
> BE CAREFUL !




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Re: MAC Address format [7:35179]

[Jason]

ROTFL

""Chris Charlebois""  wrote in message
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> Simple.  Follow this procedure.
>
> 1) Get a clean sheet of white paper and a #2 pencil.
>
> 2) Write down, in pencil, the MAC address from the Cisco Router exactly as
> displayed, but leave space between each character.
>
> 3) Using the eraser end of the pencil, erase all periods.
>
> 4) Using the pencil, insert a colon after every 2nd number.




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Re: One Source [7:35313]

[Jason]

Oh yeah, they also go by this company name "Hitek" !!! I would advise
anybody looking for equipments not to go with them, cause I've bought lots
of used eqpt for my lab and they are the only ones that are DOA twice !!


""Woods, Randall, SOBUS""  wrote in message
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> It's funny that you mention that. I just recently bought a couple of
> routers from them off ebay and one of them was dead when I received it.
> I took almost a month to get a replacement. The one shipped did work but
> during the whole process, they never responded to email and never
> initiated a call to me to atleast let me know the status of the
> shipment. I guess it could have been worse but how hard is it to send a
> freakin' email?
>
> Woody
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: One Source [7:35313]
>
>
> Be very careful if you are dealing with this company. They were formerly
> Grandstore , until the name was trashed like @!#$ and then they became
> IQSale , and then THAT name was trashed and now they changed name
> again.. So
> BE CAREFUL !




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Re: Lab scenarios - CCBootcamp.com or IPexpert.net [7:35369]

[Jason]

I believe that competition is always good for the customer and this has
definitely proven true this time. :-)
Hope to take a look at the new labs soon. Cheers..


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> Our new 1-day labs 1-22 use the same physical topology except for labs 7
and
> 12.
>
>
>
>
> ""Al Walter""  wrote in message
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm ready for some lab scenarios, but can't decide between
CCBootcamp.com
> or
> >
> > IPExpert.net. I'm leaning towards the labs offered by IPExpert.net
because
> >
> > all of the labs work off of the same physical topology. I don't really
> need
> >
> > to get faster at re-cabling, I need to work on my IOS configuration
speed.
> >
> > If anyone has any exposure to these product offerings, please reply.
> >
> >
> >
> > Al Walter
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: CCNP training kit with hardware? [7:35416]

[Jason]

Sort of curious, you are paying them or is it the other way round ?
:-))


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> I used CCNP Virtual lab by Sybex and ended up shipping them 128 CLI bugs
in
> just Remote
> Access and
> Support part. At CCNA level, you don't need much so you are satisfied. Be
> careful while
> buying
> a sim for CCNP or higher.
>
> Nadeem
> ==
> --
> 
> Ishrat Nadeem Zahid
> CCNP
> Cisco Systems,Inc.
> Chelmsford, MA 01824




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Re: VOIP Certification [7:35879]

[Jason]

Last I check, there is any CCNP specialisation track anymore !! ;-)

""Kelley Allen""  wrote in message
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> Has anyone out there attempted the CIPT, CVOICE, and QOS tests yet for the
> CCNP / Voice Specialization certification?  If so, what training did you
use
> and what was the tone of the tests?
>
> Thanks,
> Kelley.




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Re: Wireless MAN coverage [7:36223]

[Jason]

Is this legal ? I would think that you could run into legal issues as 2.4Gig
is also used by lots of other devices and there is potential problem with
increase the power to deal with such a requirement.

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> Has anyone setup or can you point me to a wireless solution for an entire
> metro area? I have a hospital that we would like to link 10+ offices
within
> a 15 mile radius.  I've had good success with the Aironet 340 series, but
at
> this point we need something more geared towards a wide coverage area,
> rather than point to point. Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Bob Sites
> System Engineer
> Valley Health System (IS)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Re: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix [7:36574]

[Jason]

They will sell anything on eBay  So who was the clown ? Anybody we know
in this forum. ??


""Scott Morris""  wrote in message
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>
> Oh, and fourth, check around EBay, there is one idiot who has cloned the
PIX
> and decided to put it on EBay.  So there's your move beyond tinkering.




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Re: Ebay seller [7:36824]

[Jason]

Yah, they sucks big time check the archives. Goes by lots of
accounts in eBay and lots of companies names.


""James""  wrote in message
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> Hello
>
> I have read pretty bad references to iqsale or oijck
> in a few posts. Would the people who had experience
> with him elaborate on their problem with the seller ?
> Thanks
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion!
> http://greetings.yahoo.com




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Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]

[Jason]

Not sure what's so funny about it ?
Looks fine to me.


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> This is good for a laugh.  They are looking for a junior CCIE.
>
> http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html




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Re: Undocumented iBGP Behavior (Confirmed by Cisco) [7:38600]

[Jason]

And you figured that someone would have the time to decipher or summarize
for you ?


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> Folks,
>
> I am very interested in the conclusion of this thread, but I do not have
the
> time to decipher it.  Could somebody please summarize.
>
>
> W. Alan Robertson wrote:
>
> > Well, that's exactly what I'm seeing, but it certainly wasn't what I
> > expected.  Nor did it appear to be what our TAC engineer expected...
> > I'm going to get the case notes in the morning, and I'll share them
> > with the list.
> >
> > Thanks for mocking this up Przemek...  Now if you can manage to get
> > that config time down to 20 minutes, instead of an hour, you're going
> > to kick butt in the Lab.  ;)
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Przemyslaw Karwasiecki"
> > To: "W. Alan Robertson"
> > Cc: "Peter van Oene" ; "Groupstudy - CCIELAB"
> > ; "Groupstudy - Cisco Certification"
> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: Undocumented iBGP Behavior (Confirmed by Cisco)
> >
> > > I have prepended it in the router in AS3.
> > >
> > > I wanted to simulate longer paths from one of the ASes,
> > > like it happens between AS1 and AS 701 in reality.
> > >
> > > Main point I wanted to prove is that initialy both routers
> > > have all routes, but after BGP converged, righ router (r6)
> > > selected routes learned via iBPG from r5, and withdrawn
> > > routes via AS3 from its advertisments to left router (r5).
> > >
> > > Przemek
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 22:40, W. Alan Robertson wrote:
> > > > How are you ending up with a greater number of AS hops for the
> > route
> > > > on R6 learned via AS3?
> > > >
> > > > > r6#sh ip bgp 10.0.0.0
> > > > > BGP routing table entry for 10.0.0.0/8, version 3
> > > > > Paths: (2 available, best #2, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
> > > > >   Advertised to non peer-group peers:
> > > > >   1.1.34.3
> > > > >   3 3 1
> > > > ^^^
> > > >  |  Why does there seem to be an as-prepend here?  --Alan
> > > >
> > > > > 1.1.34.3 from 1.1.34.3 (1.1.34.3)
> > > > >   Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> > > > >   2 1
> > > > > 1.1.24.2 from 2.2.2.1 (2.2.2.1)
> > > > >   Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
> > > >
> > > > Again, in this case, the iBGP learned route is preferred because
> > it is
> > > > only two AS hops away...  The externally learned route, from peer
> > > > 1.1.34.3, shows AS3 twice in the path, making this route 3 AS hops
> > > > away.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Przemyslaw Karwasiecki"
> > > > To: "W. Alan Robertson"
> > > > Cc: "Peter van Oene" ; "Groupstudy - CCIELAB"
> > > > ; "Groupstudy - Cisco Certification"
> > > >
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:15 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Undocumented iBGP Behavior (Confirmed by Cisco)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ok,
> > > > >
> > > > > Lab is done. I expected 20 minutes, it tooks 1 hour.
> > > > > Important lesson about time management learnt :)
> > > > >
> > > > > small legend:
> > > > > r5 and r6 are routers in AS4
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone care I can send complete configs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Przemek
> > > > >
> > > > > r5#sh ip bgp summ
> > > > > BGP router identifier 2.2.2.1, local AS number 4
> > > > > BGP table version is 2, main routing table version 2
> > > > > 1 network entries and 1 paths using 133 bytes of memory
> > > > > 1 BGP path attribute entries using 60 bytes of memory
> > > > > 1 BGP AS-PATH entries using 24 bytes of memory
> > > > > 0 BGP route-map cache entries using 0 bytes of memory
> > > > > 0 BGP filter-list cache entries using 0 bytes of memory
> > > > > BGP activity 1/9 prefixes, 2/1 paths, scan interval 60 secs
> > > > >
> > > > > NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ
> > Up/Down
> > > > State/PfxRcd
> > > > > 1.1.24.24 2  23  22200
> > 00:18:14
> > > > 1
> > > > > 2.2.2.2 4 4  27  26200
> > 00:21:53
> > > > 0
> > > > > r5#sh ip bgp 10.0.0.0
> > > > > BGP routing table entry for 10.0.0.0/8, version 2
> > > > > Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
> > > > >   Advertised to non peer-group peers:
> > > > >   2.2.2.2
> > > > >   2 1
> > > > > 1.1.24.2 from 1.1.24.2 (1.1.1.1)
> > > > >   Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best
> > > > > r5#
> > > > > telnet-server#6
> > > > > [Resuming connection 6 to r6 ... ]
> > > > >
> > > > > r6#sh ip bgp summ
> > > > > BGP router identifier 2.2.2.2, local AS number 4
> > > > > BGP table version is 3, main routing table version 3
> > > > > 1 network entries and 2 paths using 169 bytes of memory
> > > > > 2 BGP path attribute entries using 120 bytes of memory
> > > > > 2 BGP AS-PATH entries using 48 bytes of memory
> > > > > 0 BGP route-map cache entries using 0 bytes of memory
> > > > > 0 BGP filter-list cache entries using 0 bytes of memory
> > > > > BGP a

Re: BGP Issue... [7:38877]

[Jason]

And it must be "REACHABLE". :-)


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> This is the most common but not required.  If you do not use the directly
> connected
> interfaces you will need to use the "update source x"  and "ebgp multihop"
> commands.
>
>   Dave
>
> Stanzin Takpa wrote:
>
> > Is it required in  eBGP that the two routers should be directly
connected
> > (physically) or can be logically connected directly.
> >
> > Stanzin Takpa
> --
> David Madland
> CCIE# 2016
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications Inc.
> 612-664-3367
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: Cisco Devices in MS Active Directory [7:40095]

[Jason]

Another example of useless comments and waste of bandwidth... just like the
one I'm making now..


""Patrick Ramsey""  wrote in message
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> Do you really want to trust the management of your core equipment to
> anything microsoft puts out?
>
> >>> "Mann, Chris"  04/01/02 04:05PM >>>
> Can Cisco routers and switches be managed at all from with Microsoft
> Active Directory, or some Active Directory snap-in? I tried looking on CCO
> and Microsoft.com but did not see too much on how the two of them
interact,
> if at all.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris




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Upgrade 1900 standard to Enterprise [7:15964]

[Jason]

Has anybody done the upgrade before... If you have, please email me offline
and let me know the procedure, I seems to have problem with the upgrade..
Thanks...




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Re: Bad experiences with IQSale aka Grandstore .. [7:15756]

[Jason]

Well, pass the word around , cause I'm sure a lot of people still don't
believe or know how bad they can be !! They are absolutely the worst in
integrity !!! If I'm staying in MD, I'll probably go bang on the door or
something.




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> With due respect.to them...They are the worst!! Phim is absolutely
> right when he mentions about their bidding practises on Ebay. Infact, I
> had the sales rep literally yelling at me over the phone.God
> forbid
>
> >From: "PHIMHONGKONG" >Reply-To: "PHIMHONGKONG" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Bad experiences with IQSale aka Grandstore .. [7:15756]
> >Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:58:48 -0400 > >they are totaly scam > >they
> bid and buy some item on ebay and resell them > >:-( > > >""Jason"" wrote
> in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Thanks. I'm
> considering that as well based on various advises from >others... > > I'm
> still looking for feedbacks from those who had bad experiences with >them
> > > especially on eBay's auction Their tactic seems to be > > > > 1.
> Delay shipment. - Took them 1 week to response with "Please provide >this
> > > information." when I sent them the info in the first email. Then
> next > > strategy is my Boss is on vacation in x for two weeks... I
> cannot get > > hold of the shipping information. > > 2. Faulty or wrong
> items. - This appear to be especially so for those who > > got a good
> price on the item on eBay... seems like a way for them to get >out > > of
> the legally binding deal > > 3. RMA - a. Ship a different eqpt to the
> buyer or with missing parts. b. > > Cliams no other similar item, offer
> to refund minus shipping and most >people > > tends to agree after such
> long delays. > > 4. Delay refund , ask for same information provided
> on (1). > > 5. Ignored your mails... > > > > I thought I was the only one
> but it seems like it's happening to everybody > > that got back to me
> > > > > > > ""Jon Krabbenschmidt"" wrote in message > >
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > I would also contact
> the District Attorney's Office in the area that >they > > > operate. If
> you have never contacted a DA's office you may be surprised >at > > > how
> responsive and aggressive they are. > > > > > > Jon > > > > > >
> -Original Message- > > > From: Jason
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:13
> AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Bad experiences with
> IQSale aka Grandstore . [7:15756] > > > > > > > > > After talking to
> a couple of other people, I've found that I'm not the > > only > > > one
> having problem getting refund from IQSale aka Grandstore , with a > >
> couple > > > of other names > > > > > > For myself, I was promised a
> refund way back in late May and after > > numerous > > > emails, on 4th
> July, promised to get back to me with details on the >refund > > > and
> till today is waiting for the cheque. My emails to them after 4th >July >
> > > was ignored. > > > > > > I'm planning to set up a web pages with
> testimonies about the problems >we > > > have with this company and also,
> if it has since been resolved, how long > > it > > > took and the steps
> he or she has to take before the company would >resolve > > > the issue
> or refund > > > > > > I have filed a complaint with BBB and is
> considering filing a complaint > > with > > > USPS for mail fraud as
> misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 
>
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Don't buy from IQSale Was Re: don't buy from ComRe [7:17023]

[Jason]

And they probably thought that you didn't know what you are asking for and
that they are doing you a favour by giving you a switch :-P

What I would really tell everybody is not to buy from IQSale and Grandstore,
these guys are FRAUD !!! CHEATERS.  So guys, remember, don't buy from IQSale
aka Grandstore aka HiTEK they also use different seller names in eBay .
When you ask a question regarding something on eBay, you will get a response
, but then they will not response when they have to do refund, etc



""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> Strangely enough, I just purchased a 5-port 10/100 switch from them and
> it arrived with no problems.  Perhaps they just don't really want to
> sell hubs!  I tried to purchase a 5-port 10/100 hub from a company (also
> for a sniffer application) and they kept trying to convince me that I
> really wanted a switch.  It took a couple of minutes of arguing with
> them to convince them I knew what I was talking about.  Arg!
>
> In this case, it appears that Comready decided that you really didn't
> want a hub, since switches are better, right?
>
> John
>
> >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  8/23/01 12:29:48 PM
> >>>
> Just a quick warning:
>
> Don't buy from ComReady. I ordered a NetCruiser 10/100 hub. For my
> application (connecting a Sniffer), I really needed a hub.
>
> They sent a Kingston (not even the same manufacturer) switch. I was
> furious. Now, I'm fighting with their weird procedures for sending it
> back
> and getting a refund. Switch, hub: what's the difference? Please don't
>
> really answer that. ;-)
>
> Priscilla
>
> 
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: Don't buy from OneSource Was Don't buy from IQ [7:17225]

[Jason]

Well, my advise to all is still the same, don't buy from

1. OneSource
2. IQSale
3. GrandStore
4. Hitek

They are the same companies and they seems to believe that changing their
names help to avoid their responsibilities to their customers. They are
FRAUD and CHEATER . I will also put up the names of the people that I was in
contact with in a web page shortly... If you know of anybody that has been
cheat or default by these companies above, please forward details to me and
I will put it together in a web page as a warning to others.

If anybody knows any other name that the companies go by , let me know... I
will be putting up a web page pertaining to this company and I strongly
suggest that anybody thinking of buying anything from them either directly
or through eBay, seriously reconsider it.


""Brad Ellis""  wrote in message
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> IQSale is now known as Onesource.  FYI
>
> It seems like there are quite a few unhappy customers out there.  We were
> (stopped using them about 6 mos ago) using them as one of our sources on
> occasion and I can't say we ever had any problems with them.
>
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> used Cisco:  www.optsys.net
>
> ""Fanglo MA""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Agree! I also had such experience with IQSale.
> >
> > Fanglo
> > ""Jason""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > And they probably thought that you didn't know what you are asking for
> and
> > > that they are doing you a favour by giving you a switch :-P
> > >
> > > What I would really tell everybody is not to buy from IQSale and
> > Grandstore,
> > > these guys are FRAUD !!! CHEATERS.  So guys, remember, don't buy from
> > IQSale
> > > aka Grandstore aka HiTEK they also use different seller names in
> eBay
> > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
> > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: BootCamp Lab 1..Help!!!!!!!!!!! [7:17094]

[Jason]

Take a look at the solutions in the BootCamp first .. It works fine 


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> Hi Guys,
>
> Can any one explain How to set up and use Route-map on Spoke routers in
> order to guide them to use  The Hub interface as next hop and not the
other
> spokes router addresses.
>
> I tried using..
>
> route-map match ip add 101
> set ip default next hop "Hub router address"
>
> access-list 101 permit ip any any
>
> but it doesnot work..
>
>
> any help appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> _
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Re: Don't buy from IQSale Was Re: don't buy from C [7:17083]

[Jason]

As I said, spread the word and inform the group the new companies names that
this company is using and also I will put in the individual names as well .
Do you have the web page for onesource ?


""Circusnuts""  wrote in message
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> Wow- I think they kept the GrandStore name a little longer than Iqsale.
>
> Maybe they've changed :o)
> Phil
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brad Ellis"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Don't buy from IQSale Was Re: don't buy from C [7:17083]
>
>
> > IQSale is now known as Onesource.  FYI
> >
> > It seems like there are quite a few unhappy customers out there.  We
were
> > (stopped using them about 6 mos ago) using them as one of our sources on
> > occasion and I can't say we ever had any problems with them.
> >
> > -Brad Ellis
> > CCIE#5796
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > used Cisco:  www.optsys.net
> >
> > ""Fanglo MA""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Agree! I also had such experience with IQSale.
> > >
> > > Fanglo
> > > ""Jason""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > And they probably thought that you didn't know what you are asking
for
> > and
> > > > that they are doing you a favour by giving you a switch :-P
> > > >
> > > > What I would really tell everybody is not to buy from IQSale and
> > > Grandstore,
> > > > these guys are FRAUD !!! CHEATERS.  So guys, remember, don't buy
from
> > > IQSale
> > > > aka Grandstore aka HiTEK they also use different seller names in
> > eBay
> > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:
> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
> > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: atm lab [7:16210]

[Jason]

1. More Expensive : Get two routers with two ATM interface, you can
configure for ATM PVC - back to back.

2. Slightly Cheaper : Get two router with MFT and configure for ATM mode on
the T1 , you can configure for ATM PVC - back to back.

For SVC, you must have a ATM switch although a cheaper option is to use
non-Cisco switches.


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> any pointers how to create a atm lab, with of course the expection of
going
> through the
> trouble of  buying a ls1010 switch. are there any atm
> simulators?




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Re: Don't buy from IQSale Was Re: don't buy from C [7:17083]

[Jason]

I'm sure there is some small number of people that has no problem with the
eqpt but this appear to be the exception rather than the case.

""Kelly D Griffin""  wrote in message
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> We purchased two routers from them and had no problems other than initial
> communication.
>
> Kelly D Griffin, CCDA, CCNA
> Network Engineer
> Kg2 Network Design
> http://kg2.com
> 877.418.4025 Toll-Free
> 501.418.4026 Fax
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Brad Ellis
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 7:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Don't buy from IQSale Was Re: don't buy from C [7:17083]
>
>
> IQSale is now known as Onesource.  FYI
>
> It seems like there are quite a few unhappy customers out there.  We were
> (stopped using them about 6 mos ago) using them as one of our sources on
> occasion and I can't say we ever had any problems with them.
>
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> used Cisco:  www.optsys.net
>
> ""Fanglo MA""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Agree! I also had such experience with IQSale.
> >
> > Fanglo
> > ""Jason""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > And they probably thought that you didn't know what you are asking for
> and
> > > that they are doing you a favour by giving you a switch :-P
> > >
> > > What I would really tell everybody is not to buy from IQSale and
> > Grandstore,
> > > these guys are FRAUD !!! CHEATERS.  So guys, remember, don't buy from
> > IQSale
> > > aka Grandstore aka HiTEK they also use different seller names in
> eBay
> > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
> > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> http://kg2.com
> 8Mb Flash for Cisco 2500 series routers for $47
> 16Mb DRAM for Cisco 2500 series routers for $24
> Back-to-Back cables starting at $24
> Octal cables for Cisco 2509 and 2511 for $28




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Re: Don't buy from IQSale Was Re: don't buy from C [7:17083]

[Jason]

Add this to the list of names used...

IQELAB.COM ,

AVOID THEM 

""Jason""  wrote in message
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> I'm sure there is some small number of people that has no problem with the
> eqpt but this appear to be the exception rather than the case.
>
> ""Kelly D Griffin""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > We purchased two routers from them and had no problems other than
initial
> > communication.
> >
> > Kelly D Griffin, CCDA, CCNA
> > Network Engineer
> > Kg2 Network Design
> > http://kg2.com
> > 877.418.4025 Toll-Free
> > 501.418.4026 Fax
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Brad Ellis
> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 7:12 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Don't buy from IQSale Was Re: don't buy from C [7:17083]
> >
> >
> > IQSale is now known as Onesource.  FYI
> >
> > It seems like there are quite a few unhappy customers out there.  We
were
> > (stopped using them about 6 mos ago) using them as one of our sources on
> > occasion and I can't say we ever had any problems with them.
> >
> > -Brad Ellis
> > CCIE#5796
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > used Cisco:  www.optsys.net
> >
> > ""Fanglo MA""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Agree! I also had such experience with IQSale.
> > >
> > > Fanglo
> > > ""Jason""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > And they probably thought that you didn't know what you are asking
for
> > and
> > > > that they are doing you a favour by giving you a switch :-P
> > > >
> > > > What I would really tell everybody is not to buy from IQSale and
> > > Grandstore,
> > > > these guys are FRAUD !!! CHEATERS.  So guys, remember, don't buy
from
> > > IQSale
> > > > aka Grandstore aka HiTEK they also use different seller names in
> > eBay
> > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:
> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
> > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > http://kg2.com
> > 8Mb Flash for Cisco 2500 series routers for $47
> > 16Mb DRAM for Cisco 2500 series routers for $24
> > Back-to-Back cables starting at $24
> > Octal cables for Cisco 2509 and 2511 for $28




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Re: Does access list work for router originated packets [7:17485]

[Jason]

Priscilla,

This is NOT a anomaly !! This is well documented behavior. In fact, in ICND
course, this is the first thing that we highlighted when we started
discussing ACL...

ACL does not act on the packets that originate in the same router as where
the ACL is defined.


""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> At 08:38 AM 8/27/01, Ednilson Rosa wrote:
> >Yes, that's right! I have a configuration where I set up an ACL to
> >completely filter telnet FROM and TO a certain network connected to it. I
> >applied the ACL both inbound and outbound on an Ethernet interface. Done
> >this, no one could telnet my router or any host on that Ethernet segment
> >passing through my router. But I WAS ABLE to telnet any host on that
segment
> >as long as I originated the telnet from the router itself!
>
> Ah hah! ;-) This is the type of anomaly that I'm talking about. I know I
> need to test it, but I don't have time right now
>
> It sounds like the bottom line is that output traffic from the router
> itself does not actually go through the ACL. Pings may still fail,
however,
> if the Ping reply does go through an ACL that blocks it.
>
> Telnet from the router does not go through the ACL either. The replies may
> get through, depending on the ACL, as Ednilson describes below. In the
> classroom, our students get confused by this. They set up an ACL and test
> from the router where the ACL is configured and the ACL doesn't block
> traffic as expected.
>
> If I'm still off base, just let me know. I don't mind at all! ;-)
>
> Priscilla
>
> > From which you
> >may conclude that an ACL doesn't affect packets originated on the router
on
> >which it is applied...
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Ednilson Rosa
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "John Hardman"
> >To:
> >Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 1:16 AM
> >Subject: Re: Does access list work for router originated packets
[7:17357]
> >
> >
> >Hi
> >
> >I can't believe I am challenging Priscilla!
> >
> >I just tried what you are talking about, i.e. that the ACL on the router
> >does not effect the traffic generated by the router it's self.
> >
> >I created an extended ACL to block all ICMP traffic and applied it to E0
as
> >both IN and OUT. Before appling the ACL I can ping just fine to any host
on
> >the network and any host on the network can ping the router. After
Appling
> >the ACL I am not able to ping from the router, or to the router.
> >
> >I am running 11.1 IOS, maybe it would yield different results with a
> >different IOS version. What IOS and platform did you see this behavior?
> >
> >Here's my config.
> >
> >Windoze PC 192.168.10.50 --- E0 Router2 192.168.10.20
> >RedHat PC 192.168.10.2
> >
> >-Router config--
> >Current configuration:
> >!
> >version 11.1
> >service udp-small-servers
> >service tcp-small-servers
> >!
> >hostname C2501-R2
> >!
> >enable secret 5 XXX
> >enable password none
> >!
> >ip subnet-zero
> >!
> >interface Ethernet0
> >  ip address 192.168.10.20 255.255.255.0
> >  ip access-group 100 in
> >  ip access-group 100 out
> >  no ip mroute-cache
> >  no ip route-cache
> >!
> >interface Serial0
> >  ip address 192.168.50.1 255.255.255.252
> >  no ip mroute-cache
> >  encapsulation ppp
> >  no ip route-cache
> >!
> >interface Serial1
> >  no ip address
> >  no ip mroute-cache
> >  no ip route-cache
> >  shutdown
> >!
> >ip classless
> >logging buffered
> >access-list 100 deny   icmp any any
> >access-list 100 permit ip any any
> >!
> >line con 0
> >  exec-timeout 0 0
> >line aux 0
> >  transport input all
> >line vty 0 4
> >  exec-timeout 0 0
> >  password 
> >  login
> >!
> >end
> >
> >---Router Config--
> >
> >---Ping results-
> >
> >C2501-R2#ping 192.168.10.50
> >
> >Type escape sequence to abort.
> >Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echoes to 192.168.10.50, timeout is 2 seconds:
> >.
> >Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
> >C2501-R2#conf t
> >Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
> >C2501-R2(config)#int e0
> >C2501-R2(config-if)#no ip access-group 100 in
> >C2501-R2(config-if)#no ip access-group 100 out
> >C2501-R2(config-if)#^Z
> >C2501-R2#
> >%SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
> >C2501-R2#ping 192.168.10.50
> >
> >Type escape sequence to abort.
> >Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echoes to 192.168.10.50, timeout is 2 seconds:
> >!
> >Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/2/4 ms
> >C2501-R2#
> >
> >Windoze Ping with ACL 
> >C:\>ping 192.168.10.20
> >
> >Pinging 192.168.10.20 with 32 bytes of data:
> >
> >Reply from 192.168.10.20: Destination net unreachable.
> >Reply from 192.168.10.20: Destination net unreachable.
> >Reply from 192.168.10.20: Destination net unreachable.
> >Reply from 192.168.10.20: Destination net unreachable.
> >
> >Ping statistics for 192.168.10.20:
> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> >Approximate round trip times in mil

Re: CCIE Lab exam - booked twice [7:17310]

[Jason]

Just wondering, are you born this rude or do you have to be trained ?

All the guy did was ask a question.It may be a dumb question, but only a
question.

""Donald B Johnson jr""  wrote in message
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> Oh I see maybe they could roll out a red carpet as you stroll up. No
better
> yet I could throw rose petal since I aint busy anymore cause you double
> booked and I gotta wait for the really good guys to keep going through
until
> they pass. Then you say you would cancel the second one if you failed, I
> think you meant pass. If this is your thought process you may want to add
a
> third date.
> You may try pirating that Transcender test for a test brain too.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rashid Lohiya"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 2:49 AM
> Subject: CCIE Lab exam - booked twice [7:17310]
>
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > Does anyone know whether one person can book the lab twice?
> >
> > ie. 1 for April, 1 for June, thus allowing him to cancel and get a
refund
> on
> > the second one if the first is failed.
> >
> > In this way, the year long wait would not need to be endured if I was to
> > fail the first time around.
> >
> > --
> > Rashid Lohiya
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 020 8509 2990
> > 07785 362626
> > www.pioneer-computers.com
> > London UK
> >
> > www.rashidl.co.uk




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Re: IQSale , Grandstore Was Re: Prologue: Anything [7:18022]

[Jason]

Louis,

I don't know about you, but for IQSale / GrandStores / Hitek , in fact every
message that I wrote to this Forum, I actually forward to  various people in
IQSale as well to provide them a opportunity to defend themselves and make
right their mistakes. However, if they chose not to make right their
mistakes and they felt that what I said is wrong or lies , they could easily
sent their lawyers after me .

I know a lot of people chose not to make statements regarding companies like
that simply because of fear, in my case, I'm prepared to standby my
statements, that they promise me a refund and till date, I have not received
a single cent and they have failed to response to me after that. If you
don't call that fraud and dishonest practise, I really don't know what you
will call it. I guess you call them honest bible loving people who deserve a
chance

As for eBay ratings, those are BS !! Don't trust the ratings... eBay don't
really care ... Also please stop the mis-use of the Bibles Quotes in this
forum,  maybe if you can close down all the Courts, etc in your country ,
you can start using the quote again


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> Well gee, Sanjay, that would be a bummer for me.  I don't have a rating of
> 100 on eBay, yet I've sold kits to people in the $2000 range without a
> problem.
>
> Regarding Evgeny at IQSale/ojick/lanbuilder2000, I'm sure with the volume
of
> business that he does, there are bound to be some disgruntled customers -
no
> one is perfect.  (Well, I take that back, because [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
> really good for the volume that he does.)  If he doesn't make it right,
> however, he doesn't deserve the victim's repeat business.  But there is no
> reason to drag his name/business through the mud as a result without
giving
> him an opportunity to defend himself.  That would be the honorable thing
to
> do.  "Let he without sin cast the first stone"
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sanjay Chaudhry"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:00 PM
> Subject: Prologue: Anything wrong with this switch? [7:17045]
>
>
> > Thanks Brian, Daniel, Priscilla and Eric for all your input. It helped
> > me tremendously. As advised by many posters I asked the seller to send
> > me the output of 'show ver' for this switch. The otherwise
> > prompt-replier seller maintained a loud silence.
> >
> > Shortly after that there was a discussion thread on group study about
> > people being cheated by IQSale posing under different name on EBay. This
> > was the same guy selling this switch, under yet another name of
> > lanbuilder2000!!!
> >
> > Obviously, I did not go ahead with the deal. After this close-shave I
> > will not advise anybody to buy anything expensive on Ebay from a seller
> > with a rating of
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > Sanjay Chaudhry
> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:01 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Urgent: Anything wrong with this switch? [7:17045]
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> > I'm trying to buy a refurbished switch with the following
> > specifications:
> >
> > =
> > Cisco Catalyst 5505 w/ Supervisor Engine II WS-X5506
> >
> > Included in the Chassis:
> >
> > One WS-C5505 Chassis 5 slot Chassis
> > 1 Supervisor Engine II (WS-X5506)
> >
> > 1 AC Power Supply
> > 1 12 PORT 100BaseTX Ethernet (WS-X5113)
> > 1 AC Cord
> > 1 Console Kit
> > =
> >
> > There is no guarantee against DOA from seller. I'll be responsible for
> > everything after the sale!!
> > I'm a recent CCNA. This is intended for my CCNP/CCIE lab. I'll need your
> > advice here... I don't even know if Flash/RAM should have been mentioned
> > in the switch specs and are missing...
> > Your input is highly valued.
> > Thanks,
> > Sanjay
> _
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Re: One Sided Chap????? [7:18056]

[Jason]

Have you seriously consider doing some reading up ?

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>
> Any Idea how to setup one sided chap???that is only one router is sending
> challenge??
>
>
> Thanks for the help..
>
> _
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Re: Cisco TACACS+ Problem [7:26783]

[Jason]

Without a config or anything.??


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> I have configured a number of routers to authenticate to the TACACS+
> server we have on site.  some routers get the login prompt and some dont
> and at time others do.
>
> Has anyone got any ideas to this.
>
> *** Thomas Jreige
> *** Communications Engineer
> *** CSC Network Services, Wollongong




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Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920]

[Jason]

""Brad Ellis""  wrote in message
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> Jason,
>
> Hi!  thanks for the information.  what technical topics did we miss in our
> lab scenerios?  also, here is the general list of equipment you can use to
> do our labs:

I guess somehow this pass through my newsgroup reader without me noticing
it.
If I were to tell you what topic you missed, then obviously I'll be breaking
the NDA.


> That's pretty much the list of gear that you need.  When you say
"different
> equipment" are you referring to the different cabling you need to do?
There
> is a standard cabling methodology that we use on our racks so we do not
have
> to re-cable the hardware.  If you would like to know what that is, you can
> check out our website.  As far as presentation goes, we have them on
single
> sheets of paper so it makes it easier for you to do your labs.  We could
> bind them together, but then it would make it much harder.  Besides, do
you
> really care if it looks pretty or not?  The focus of our labs are to help
> you pass your CCIE, plain and simple.  We go right for the throat, and
don't
> mess around!  :)  Our scenarios our completely focused on the high-level
> engineer and expect the individual to really "know there stuff."  I
thought
> I knew everything before I bought the bootcamp labs (and before I even
knew
> of ccbootcamp).  After I went through lab8, I realized how little I
actually
> knew, and got my butt in gear for my studying.

Anyway, I also have a standard cabling that works fine for me . I actually
spent time going through the lab scenerios trying to figure out if my eqpt
would works for the scenerio and how to optimize the eqpts placements , and
that waste lots of time because it has to be repeated for every lab
scenerio, I'm however glad that you are working on updating the scenerios.

> We are in the process of going through ALL of the labs, removing the
errors,
> removing the old technologies, making the configs standardized for our
racks
> (frame-relay interfaces, router #s, etc), and including pre-config files
> (for IP addresses, etc, like the new 1-day lab).

It's not so much the binding as the quality of the presentation, I could
scan a page and let everybody take a look at what I mean, part of the edge
of the page is missing, etc..However, I don't see the point to that This
info is just meant to help people decided ... The other problem is that the
labs was standardise on your eqpt, i.e. if you have AGS, you assume
everybody has AGS, etc... so it's difficult to find the exact number of
interfaces, etc as what you have in the scenerios..


> I would have replied personally, but you didnt include your email address.
> Sorry for the long winded response.  Thanks for your input!

No problem.

>
> thanks,
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> Network Learning Inc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> used Cisco gear:  www.optsys.net
> CCIE Labs, racks, and classes:  www.ccbootcamp.com
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> > I'm completely unbiased since I've bought both IPExperts and CCBootCamp
> (and
> > Solutionlab too). The fact that I got solutionlab and IPExpert too does
> say
> > something, CCBootCamp labs are not for everybody and doesn't covers
> > everything.
> >
> > Having gone through both, I would say that CCBootCamp has been the
> defactor
> > standard for CCIE preparation for a long time , but mistakes starts
> creeping
> > in somewhere in Lab 16 onward although Lab 19 and Lab 20 improved since.
> >
> > Quick Comparision
> >
> > First Look : The first feeling is sort of disappointment, since it's a
> stack
> > of papers, with no proper binding and even some info missing from the
> pages
> > due to bad photocopying. If I would give CCBootCamp a 5/10 for this,
then
> I
> > must give IPExperts 9/10 for this. Workbook is properly binded and all
> > printing done on glossy high quality papers . Diagrams are all in Colors
> and
> > definitely not using your inkjet printer.
> >
> > Lab scenerios : CCBootCamp has more diverse labs , but is more
distracting
> > due to the different eqpt requirements in each lab scenerios. IPExperts
> > builds on individual topics, making it easier to focus and also the
> standard
> > lab setup makes it easier to setup the lab and focus on configurations.
IP
> > Experts breaks their lab into 19 topics and then 5 full scenerios.
> > CCBootCamp scenerios is more tricky in certain ways.
> >
> > Recommendation : CCBootCamp for more experienced engineers and IPExperts
> for

Re: Sybex CCNA lab simulator int f0/0 [7:27080]

[Jason]

Well, the real router don't like it either.

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> Please can someone tell me the correct syntax..
> The Sybex CCNA lab simulator does not like my syntax for
> #int fastethernet 
> I can get it to work with int f0/0
> Is this a simulator bug or am I doing something wrong?
> Thanks
> -Anil
>
>
> Router#config t
> Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
> Router(config)#hostname 2621A
> 2621A(config)#int fas
> 2621A(config)#int fastethernet f0/0
>^
>
> % Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
>
> 2621A(config)#int fastethernet f0?
> % Unrecognized command
> 2621A(config)#int fastethernet f 0/0
>^
>
> % Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
>
> 2621A(config)#int fastethernet f0/0
>^
>
> % Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
>
> 2621A(config)#int f0/0
> 2621A(config-if)#




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