RE: back to back cables [7:527]
OK, for those of you who continue to be incredulous, let me spell this out. We have a budget with budget lines. Commodities fall under $100, and equipment is over $100. Third party cables would be commodities, and there isn't enough money in that budget line to buy cables, because somebody else didn't put enough money in that budget line. On the other hand, there's too much money in the equipment budget line, so if we buy Cisco cables bundled with a Cisco router, then we can actually get cables that will work. Even if our supplier had third party cables (which it doesn't), we can't legitimately make the bookkeepers think that this is a manufacturer's bundle. So I have to buy Cisco cables at $150 a set, instead of third party cables at $50 a piece. Now, I'm not sure that any of this has anything to do with Cisco routers/routing, which is why I did NOT say any of this to begin with. I said simply that I could not buy third party cables, which is true and the only fact that is truly relevant. So hopefully, we can lay this to rest. Unless someone has the part number for an actual Cisco back to back cable, which is all that I asked for in the first place, I would like to see this thread buried. Thanks to everyone for their advice, Ray Mosely CCNA, MCSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 2:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: back to back cables [7:527] Wow, why not? Does your employer make a habit of spending three times as much as necessary? :-) Just kidding... If that's the case, then go with the part numbers I gave you. For the sake of performance you'll want to go with the v.35 cables. John | It's simple. Cisco doesn't, to my knowledge, | make a back to back cable. I'm not allowed to | order a third party cable. | Ray M. | | -Original Message- | From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:42 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: back to back cables [7:527] | | | Do I even dare ask why you are allowed to use two regular cables but not | a back to back cable? | | Hmm... while writing that I just thought of one good reason. Whenever | I order a back-to-back cable I usually get an RS-232 cable. This would | tend to limit the clock rate between the two routers. If I needed a | higher speed I'd have to find a V.35 back to back cable which seem to be | harder to find. | | If you want V.35: | | CAB-V35MT= | CAB-V35FC= | | If you want RS-232: | | CAB-232MT= | CAB-232FC= | | HTH, | John | | "Ray Mosely" 4/13/01 4:29:14 PM | I'm sorry to bring up this old old old | thread, but I'm in a situation where I | need a back to back cable for some 2501's, | but I'm not allowed to use a back to back | cable. | | There are two bona fide Cisco cables which | can be hooked together to make one back | to back cable (at three times the price | of a back to back). Anybody know the | part numbers of the Cisco cables? It's | for back to back on the WAN ports. | | Thanks, | Ray Mosely | CCNA, MCSE | FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: | http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html | Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | | FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html | Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=712t=527 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: back to back cables [7:527]
It's simple. Cisco doesn't, to my knowledge, make a back to back cable. I'm not allowed to order a third party cable. Ray M. -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: back to back cables [7:527] Do I even dare ask why you are allowed to use two regular cables but not a back to back cable? Hmm... while writing that I just thought of one good reason. Whenever I order a back-to-back cable I usually get an RS-232 cable. This would tend to limit the clock rate between the two routers. If I needed a higher speed I'd have to find a V.35 back to back cable which seem to be harder to find. If you want V.35: CAB-V35MT= CAB-V35FC= If you want RS-232: CAB-232MT= CAB-232FC= HTH, John "Ray Mosely" 4/13/01 4:29:14 PM I'm sorry to bring up this old old old thread, but I'm in a situation where I need a back to back cable for some 2501's, but I'm not allowed to use a back to back cable. There are two bona fide Cisco cables which can be hooked together to make one back to back cable (at three times the price of a back to back). Anybody know the part numbers of the Cisco cables? It's for back to back on the WAN ports. Thanks, Ray Mosely CCNA, MCSE FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=672t=527 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
back to back cables [7:527]
I'm sorry to bring up this old old old thread, but I'm in a situation where I need a back to back cable for some 2501's, but I'm not allowed to use a back to back cable. There are two bona fide Cisco cables which can be hooked together to make one back to back cable (at three times the price of a back to back). Anybody know the part numbers of the Cisco cables? It's for back to back on the WAN ports. Thanks, Ray Mosely CCNA, MCSE Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=527t=527 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Netware 4 server
Can you ping the server from the router? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of KOLIY Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Netware 4 server I have a netware 4 server and a cisco router just be installed on the Ethernet. The router can't see the server a.encapsulation difference b.router address must be configured on the server c.server need to be the default gateway d.rebbot the router Thanks Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Token Ring Media Filter Pinout?
I'm afraid that I would have to actually do some research on the Internet to find that out and pass it on to you. Hmmm, maybe that's something you could do? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ehab Mohamad Abdullah Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 9:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Token Ring Media Filter Pinout? Hi, Is there any body who can tell me what is the RJ45 to DB9 token ring pinout. I'm trying to make one, but can't find the pinout on the internet. Please Help. The problem I'm too far from the states, and it does not worth it to order a patch cable from there, if I can make locally. Thank you very much for your help... Ehab _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Star Wars
Do they make yin yang duck tape? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Star Wars In the Star Wars universe, the Force: Has a light side Has a dark side Holds the universe together. In our universe, this is a fair description of duct tape. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tragedy of the Commons (was Thought youd enjoy this
I read a bit of callousness in Lauren's approach, but I agree with the general idea Lauren proposes. I have sent out similar emails to people who waste my time, instead of doing a bit of research. I also oppose the use of "shorthand" english in public emails. It is offputting, so I tend to ignore those people entirely. But, Howard, aren't you being a little too cryptic? The commons obviously is the listserv. But who are putting too many sheep out? Lauren (and me, I guess, by association with that point of view), or all the others who criticize? Or both sides? I agree, it is time to end this thread. Ray Mosely CCNA, MCSE BTW, Howard, our first communiques ended up with you bashing me. Thank you, sincerely, because I was humbled. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tragedy of the Commons (was Thought youd enjoy this There's a basic concept in economic theory called the "tragedy of the commons." The commons, in this case, was a shared pasture in which the village livestock could graze. As long as the number of cattle fit the basic needs of each family, the commons provided enough grazing land for all. But less cooperative people decided that they could increase their personal profits by having more cows and sheep. Nothing wrong with that -- except the also expected to pasture them on the common land, rather than set up private pastures for private herds and flocks. The commons, however, had just so much capacity, and, when it was overgrazed by the additional beasts, the grass could no longer recover, and the entire resource died. Nothing could graze any longer. Information based on people's time is a modern version. It takes time to scan a list for irrelevant messages, especially when people don't use informative subject headings. Outside North America, there is often a monetary cost to downloading more and more material that may not be of interest. So yes -- when people ask questions that could be answered with reasonable use of a search engine, I get a bit annoyed. CCO, I realize, can be uncooperative, and I am sympathetic to people who say "I tried to find this on CCO but didn't get anything useful." There is no question that I'm usually rude to telemarketers. Sometimes, they whine that they won't take much of my time. But I really try to create a hostile work environment for telemarketers, because if encouraged, they will waste so much of my time that I won't be able to earn money to buy their products. Hopefully, my parable may convey something about effective and fair use of lists. Lauren Child wrote, "Roberts, Timothy" wrote: Obviously english is not this persons first language. Why should this person be made fun of because he has not fully mastered it yet? He shouldnt. He should be made fun of for having an MCSE and CCNA, and working for CCNP, and not mastering the search engine. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PCAnywhere problem with ISDN Connection
I concur. I used VNC all of last week to take remote control of a system 2000 miles away. It was rock solid. I even got into an SMS console, and used its remote control through the VNC remote control. Ray M CCNA, MCSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Natasha Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:18 PM To: Chris Wang Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PCAnywhere problem with ISDN Connection I've used PCAnywhere with several installations and found it to be nothing but problematic and bulky. Give VNC server a quick look-see. You'll find it to be smaller faster more secure and free. http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/winvnc.html Chris Wang wrote: I have a problem about the caption. When performing ping from local office to the remote location, the ISDN connection is up and everything is fine. However, when I initiate a PCAnywhere connection from local to the server (remote), the PCAnywhere connection is up for a while (less than a minute) and then hang up. Pls. note that the ISDN connection is fine at that moment. Anyone experience the same problem before? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Natasha Flazynski 440.949.1399 http://www.ciscobot.com My Cisco information site. http://www.botbuilders.com Artificial Intelligence and Linux development A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station... _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco
Howard, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't teach him to fish. Good luck, Ray M. CCNA, MCSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Hi. Can anybody try to access cisco web site ?? I think that their site is down. I am trying to access their web site from last 1 hour... Please check it and response me as soon as possible. Tazad Why do you think it is down? What do your pings and traceroutes show? How would the information that I can or cannot reach it be helpful to you? If you've done enough troubleshooting to think the problem is at your end -- and I would hope anyone on this list would do so -- aren't you just going to keep retrying? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: E-Books on Networking and Security
I've seen book sites like this in the past. I've found that often, if not always, the books have been taken from a publisher's free e-book site, particularly the Macmillan books. I've also found that they are out of date and/or incomplete. And difficult to read. For me, these "free" ebooks give me the incentive to buy the actual book. .02 Ray Mosely CCNA, MCSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 8:14 PM To: Rajeev Soni; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E-Books on Networking and Security At 08:37 AM 1/22/01, Rajeev Soni wrote: Check it out. http://www.securax.org/roocoocoo/books/all.shtml Do you think the author of that site really has permission to publish all those books? I was pretty surprised to see the complete text of O'Reilly's classic "Building Internet Firewalls," for example, and John Wiley Sons, "Applied Cryptography, Second Edition: Protocols, Algorithms, and Source Code in C." These are good books that people should BUY so that publishers can stay in business. I couldn't really figure out this roocoocoo site. Their ethics page says, "Our team strives to bring you everything on how you need to be oriented to become a successfull hacker." Pretty strange ethics. The page does have a lot of useful information, though. I wonder how the author would feel about someone else publishing it and not giving him credit (as he did with the books.) Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Type 1 to RJ45 TR Cables
Try milestek. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Chipps Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 9:47 AM To: Kevin Welch; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Type 1 to RJ45 TR Cables These things are called media filters. You need one that goes from a data connector to RJ45 connector. This sort plugs into the MAU. There is another type that plugs into the DB9 connector on the NIC. I looked around for you, but could only find the ones that go on the NIC, not any that go on the MAU. We will be ordering some of these in the next few days. Email me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will let you know when I turn up a part number. We have a couple of vendors looking for use now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Welch Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Type 1 to RJ45 TR Cables Does anyone know a part number or a place that sells IBM Type 1 Token = Ring to RJ45 Connectors. I am trying to connect my the TR port on my = 2612 to an IBM 8228 MAU. -- Kevin _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Workstation / Device Inventory
There are several products, such as Microsoft's SMS, which will do this, but not on a polling basis. The reports that you want need to be generated by a WBEM client at the workstation. SMS installs WMI, which is an MS WBEM client, and leaves it running in the background. Client OS can be Macintosh, Win 3.1x, Win9x, any variation of NT, and OS/2. To bring this back to Cisco: SMS will poll devices such as routers, and report their existence to the central site, and it is SNMP aware. Ray Mosely CCNA, MCSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sammi Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 6:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Workstation / Device Inventory Can anyone recommend an application that will pull an inventory from individual workstations? Something that will record software installed, versions, hardware specs, etc. Preferably the polling could be done from a central location, that is; the application will roam the network, touch each workstation, and report back to one machine. All workstations will be visited in any case, so if it's something that needs to be done individually that would be fine as well. I believe What's Up Gold will report all my Cisco devices, is there a Cisco (or other) application that will delve deeper for me? I am going to a new site to inventory software and hardware, as well as create a network map over ~8 buildings. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 1 point short
Generally speaking, it is recommended that a person get a really good night's sleep two nights before an upcoming event, with the thought in mind that the night before will be stressful sleep no matter what. I usually try to live up to this advice, and it works for me. Ray Mosely CCNA, MCSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Henson Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AHH 1 point short I feel your pain. Scored a 69 on Tuesday morning. Taking it again in 5 hours. For three days before the last test I didn't get but 2-3 hours a night. I totally overstressed myself. So i'm not cramming at all for this one. I've casually gone over some notes and focused on some things and I feel more prepared than before. I'll repost this afternoon. Charles "Eric Gunn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I was so nervous about taking the test I only slept 3 hours last night. The test isn't too bad and looking back on it I feel I over analyzed many of the questions and a handful had me stumped. 1 question just cost me $200 :), Well I am going to try the exam again tomorrow if I sleep well, can find the answers to about 10 questions that stumped me(For safe measure) and can get a seat. Thanks everyone for the help, I may have some questions for the group later if I can not find some answers I am looking for. -Eric _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 1 point short
Amen. The animal and human studies show that classical music can help with concentration and retention. I often listen to classical while studying, and I can feel the tensions and distractions melting away. Ray M. CCNA, MCSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Cribbs Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:35 PM To: Fowler, Joey Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: AHH 1 point short Since I've only had one test, I can only speak for myself..I had my husband drive me and we were absolutely silent on the trip with me doing last minute cramming, with cotton in my ears in case he turned the radio on. We road this was for a good hr and half. Maybe two. (I was nervous about being distracted). But at home, I put headphones on at a very very loud volume of wonderful classical music. They say (and I don't know who they are), but they say that classical music helps memory retention. hehe I was raised with classical. But I am well aware of how most folks feel about it. Jen = Original Message From "Fowler, Joey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] = I personally find that listening to "Eye of the Tiger" from the Rocky = movies is perfect. -Original Message- From: john hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AW: AHH 1 point short do you want to REALLy know the secret to taking exam`s REALLY.. well here it is .. 1. GET in your Car 2.turn up the stereo 3. SING as LOUD as you can to some VERY UPBEAT tunes. this puts you in a good mood and enables you to concetrate better the better the mood you are in the easier it is to concentrate so iam told that is a proven medical FACT. it helps me (but i always end up laughing when in the exam) ( i keep thinking of how stupid i look chillin` in my ride ...Singing = to sum lame tune...) regards john From: Stuart Laubstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Stuart Laubstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: AHH 1 point short Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:45:18 +0100 I always try to get 40 minutes of strenous exercise about 2 hours = before an exam--Then I eat some fruit before going in, an orange or something. = Of course I always go out for a few beers(or Vodka Redbulls) after the exam(pass or fail there is always a good excuse). The most important = thing to me is not to go in paralysed with fear but also to maintain a = healthy respect for the test. I like the fish idea though and will try it on = Feb 6th when I take my next test stu -Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht- Von: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Thursday, January 18, 2001 4:59 PM An: 'Ray Mosely'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: AHH 1 point short This may sound odd, but I always have fish for dinner the night before = an exam - that makes my brain work a little better. I guess it's the = protein=20 or something, I don't know - haven't passed the FISH 2.0 exam yet :-) Also, I always drink a coke an hour before the exam, so I don't find = my=20 self sleeping when the time is up. Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.CiscoKing.com NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message----- From: Ray Mosely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 9:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: AHH 1 point short Generally speaking, it is recommended that a person get a really good night's sleep two nights before an upcoming event, with the thought in mind that the night before will be stressful sleep no matter what. I usually try to live up to this advice, and it works for me. Ray Mosely CCNA, MCSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Henson Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AHH 1 point short I feel your pain. Scored a 69 on Tuesday morning. Taking it again in 5 hours. For three days before the last test I didn't get but 2-3 hours = a night. I totally overstressed myself. So i'm not cramming at all for = this one. I've casually gone over some notes and focused on some things and = I feel more prepared than before. I'll repost this afternoon. Charles "Eric Gunn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I was so nervous about taking the test I only slept 3 hours last = night. The test isn't too bad and looking back on it I feel I over analyzed = many of the questions and a handful had me stumped. 1 question just cost me $200 :), Well I am going to try the e
RE: Best place to buy book
www.addall.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Best place to buy book Does anyone know of any places on the web that sell cisco press books cheaper than cisco sell them? Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Useful things to do with trolls
What kind of sparrow? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Useful things to do with trolls I agree. When it comes to trolls and other threads such as these, sometimes the best course of action is to do nothing but hit the delete button. This is the "Let it drop because no one will remember it in a couple of days, anyway" philosophy. Ignore trolls and they often go away. If they don't, then into the kill file they go. just my $.01 after taxes, John Bringing the subject back to networking, remember, when studying bridging, that a troll traditionally is the layer below the bridge. Unfortunately, no bridge management tool of which I am aware is preprogrammed to ask: "what is your name? "what is your quest? "what is the velocity of the sparrow? Is implementing this capability a potential CCIE lab requirement? Those of us that have been on mailing-lists for many years have a name for the orginal message. Its called a troll. When someone trolls your list, you simply do not respond to it, as that is the purpose of the troll and get on with your lives. Some people have spent entirely too much time worrying about this when you don't even know if he even had a crack, and if he did fine. If you care, email him privately, if you don't, then you delete it. I'm just simply amazed at the amount of energy and time that went into this thread. This stuff just isn't that hard... Andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Token Ring Question
I can't remember whether the 2502 needs a media filter. What type of physical port is the cable attaching to: 1. nine pin female 2. rj-45 Are the HP mau's active (do they have external power) or are they passive? I suspect that you are using passive hubs, and the phantom voltage from the NIC's is insufficient to keep the mau relays open. Other question: why two mau's? Ray Mosely CCNA, MCSE, ISCET -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fanglo P.M. MA Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Token Ring Question Hi ALL, I have connected up two 2502 with two HP UTP/STP Token Ring Hub. But I find that the length of the connection cable to form the ring is really a matters. I can only form the ring with the cable length less than 2m with UTP cabling. Anyone knows how to work around with this limitation? Thanks and regards, Fanglo _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Electrical and General knowledge
Sorry, if I understand your comments on passwords, I must disagree. Username passwords should contain non-alphabetic characters. This doesn't effect Cisco, because so far no one seems to have created the right software to hack the secret password hash. However, the Cisco secret password hash is similar to Microsoft's, and l0pht has long ago created a brute force hack. I ran the l0pht crack on my userlist 2 months ago. The only passwords that were NOT cracked were mine and my student worker's. Both had non-alphabetic characters. Ray Mosely CCNA, MCSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 5:37 PM To: Tony van Ree; studygroup Subject: Re: Electrical and General knowledge At 10:01 AM 1/4/01, Tony van Ree wrote: A couple of thoughts based on the PVC fault thread but looking at a different angle. Should we as aspiring "communications experts" understand: 1 Fundamental electrical and magnetic propogation theory. 2 Basic cabling technology, design and termination. Yes. Cisco Networking Academy requires almost a whole semester on electricity, cabling, building wiring, etc. Now, I think that's overkill, but at least some study in these areas is a good idea if you want to be an efficient troubleshooter. Priscilla Well lets consider the number of faults that can be put into this category. It used to be 75%+ faults were of a physical nature. I think the figure would still be quite high but I don't have recent figures. Most intermittent faults are due to connections and/or connectors. Ofter due to poor installation and/or plugs being inserted and removed regularly and/or incorrectly. The next most common cause of intermittent faults is magnetic (Noise) interferance. Usually due to poor cabling layouts and/or poor installation methods. The most common cause of permanent damage to to ports is due to incorrect installation of cables (NT1 to Ethernet ports is a good one that comes up a lot). In switching the most common problems are duplex mismatches. Usually due to a misunderstanding of what duplex setting do. These are just some considerations there are heaps more. Most are easily avoided but difficult to diagnose. An understanding of the fundamentals involved can avoid disaster. Just as a beat up on all. I work in an environment where we supply Telco type services and IP connectivity to thousands (this figure is an understatement). A part of my job is to troubleshoot client connections to our access servers. I can often go for a week or two handling about 10 faults or more per day without finding a fault in the configuration of the access servers, connections to the access servers and/or the clients CPE. This does not leave much but I'll bet most still blame us. I don't know how often I will suggest change this setting in your server an all will be fine. Bink up it comes and so does the question "what did you do at your end to fix my server?" Incidently the next most common problem I come across is username/password errors particularly where people mix cases and/or use non alphanumeric characters in usernames. In my opinoin this shouls be avoided (In Cisco's also). The term username in the Cisco sense is really a hostname (PPP) and should follow the Unix Hostmane rules to avoid stange issues. Most faults a simple and can be avoided by careful planning. Just some thoughts and ramblings from Teunis Teunis Hobart, Tasmania Australia -- www.tasmail.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Electrical and General knowledge
Nope, no misunderstanding. l0pht takes about 2 or 3 days to crack alphanumeric passwords that are hashed. It could take a month of Sundays to hack special characters. I always use at least one special character in my passwords. And it is just a matter of time before someone programs a brute force hash cracker for router access. The hash algorithm, as I understand it, it very similar to what Microsoft uses, and l0pht cracks. Mixed case characters are sometimes called a skyline font, because they resemble a city's skyline. Skyline passwords are easily cracked, so I don't really see the point to them, unless a hacker is using "social engineering" to discover passwords. Social engineering is basically eavesdropping by maintaining a physical presence when someone is typing in a password. Maybe hang out with a cup of coffee, chat a little, and wait for the opportunity to observe a user typing in a password. Ray M. CCNA, MCSE -Original Message- From: Stanfield Hilman B (Brad) CONT NSSG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 8:43 AM To: 'Ray Mosely'; studygroup Subject: RE: Electrical and General knowledge Ray, I think there is a misunderstanding. What he said was non alphanumeric (something other that letters and numbers). What I think he means is characters such as !@#$%^*(), and others. Alphabetic characters, numbers, and especially mixed case are very much recommended for security, BUT, I can understand the problems associated with a user not remembering that he had the 3rd letter of his cat's name capitalized. My $ 0.02 Brad Brad Stanfield CCNA Network/Integration Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Norfolk Naval Shipyard Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 1-800-626-6622 -Original Message----- From: Ray Mosely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 9:14 AM To: studygroup Subject: RE: Electrical and General knowledge Sorry, if I understand your comments on passwords, I must disagree. Username passwords should contain non-alphabetic characters. This doesn't effect Cisco, because so far no one seems to have created the right software to hack the secret password hash. However, the Cisco secret password hash is similar to Microsoft's, and l0pht has long ago created a brute force hack. I ran the l0pht crack on my userlist 2 months ago. The only passwords that were NOT cracked were mine and my student worker's. Both had non-alphabetic characters. Ray Mosely CCNA, MCSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 5:37 PM To: Tony van Ree; studygroup Subject: Re: Electrical and General knowledge At 10:01 AM 1/4/01, Tony van Ree wrote: A couple of thoughts based on the PVC fault thread but looking at a different angle. Should we as aspiring "communications experts" understand: 1 Fundamental electrical and magnetic propogation theory. 2 Basic cabling technology, design and termination. Yes. Cisco Networking Academy requires almost a whole semester on electricity, cabling, building wiring, etc. Now, I think that's overkill, but at least some study in these areas is a good idea if you want to be an efficient troubleshooter. Priscilla Well lets consider the number of faults that can be put into this category. It used to be 75%+ faults were of a physical nature. I think the figure would still be quite high but I don't have recent figures. Most intermittent faults are due to connections and/or connectors. Ofter due to poor installation and/or plugs being inserted and removed regularly and/or incorrectly. The next most common cause of intermittent faults is magnetic (Noise) interferance. Usually due to poor cabling layouts and/or poor installation methods. The most common cause of permanent damage to to ports is due to incorrect installation of cables (NT1 to Ethernet ports is a good one that comes up a lot). In switching the most common problems are duplex mismatches. Usually due to a misunderstanding of what duplex setting do. These are just some considerations there are heaps more. Most are easily avoided but difficult to diagnose. An understanding of the fundamentals involved can avoid disaster. Just as a beat up on all. I work in an environment where we supply Telco type services and IP connectivity to thousands (this figure is an understatement). A part of my job is to troubleshoot client connections to our access servers. I can often go for a week or two handling about 10 faults or more per day without finding a fault in the configuration of the access servers, connections to the access servers and/or the clients CPE. This does not leave much but I'll bet most still blame us. I don't know how often I will suggest change this setting in your server an all wi
RE: Transceiver Pinout's ???
I have an Apple transceiver in my hand, as we speak. It has what I would call a 14 pin mini-Centronics connector. It looks a bit like a printer cable connector, but small, and with two rows of 7 pins with a center insulator running full length between the pins. These originally sold for about $30US. I know of no way to adapt these to a standard AUI, and even if it were possible, could it be cost justified with the price of equipment as low as it is? They're good for many PowerMacs. Before you round file them, you should look into doing a little pro bono work for a local grade school. You never can tell where it will lead. Ray M. MCSE, CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Transceiver Pinout's ??? I bought a couple of Asante FriendlyNet transceivers they have (what I = believe to be) Apple LAN connectors ( not 15 pin AUI). Has anyone ever = dealt with the pin-out's on these things ??? Any advice short of the = round file basket. I checked the website could hardly tell exactly = what Asante sells or supports these days... Thanks !!! Phil _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP Unnumbered.
I'm no expert, but I have played with it. We have a lab with an old 3000 token ring router, back-to-back with a 2500 ethernet router. The 3000 is running IOS 9.x and the 2500 is running 11.2. The 3000 is on a subnet with another router which is our link into the Campus Area Network. With ip unnumbered, we can not route properly from the ethernet to the CAN. When we put a bona fide subnet on the serial ports, we can route to the CAN. We haven't tried it with the 3000 on a higher level IOS, because it would have to boot from a tftp server, and we haven't taken the time to set it up. Ray M. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of net974 at YahooSent: Monday, October 16, 2000 9:19 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: IP Unnumbered. Hi, Can somebody tell me Advantages disadvantages of IP unnumbered system. TIA Gm.
RE: EIA/TIA 568B Color code
It is immune to wire reversal if you reverse the wires of the same color at both ends. Pairs are color coded, and need to stay paired. Some pairs are twisted tighter than others, so you can interchange pairs and usually have a working cable. Many devices, NIC's, hubs, etc. can automatically correct for a miswired pair, if the wires of one color are only reversed at one end. Ray M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of CCIE TB Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 9:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: EIA/TIA 568B Color code Hi In EIA/TIA 568B the pins to color code arrangements are as follows: Pin Code 1Orange/White 2Orange 3Green/White 4Blue 5Blue/White 6Green 7Brown/White 8Brown Is it true that this arrangement is made according to each wire electrical properties and if mixed the cable will not work. I mean by mixing is that by mistake inserting the Orange color in Pin 1 at both ends of the cable, instead of the Orange/White in a straight-through cable. I tried that mistake and the cable worked. Just not sure if some type of applications are sensitive to this arrangement. By the way, there are some other standards for making cables. What the major differences between them and and which one is the recommended. Many thanks to every contributor to this group. Given the fast life and the time stress an IT pro is experiencing, spending a time to help a stranger is considered a very nobel work. Regards Adiah _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Training and babies, and training babies
And you got two dependents for the tax year !! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale Holmes Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Training and babies, and training babies From: "Jim Erickson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Babies rarely come when expected. ---JRE--- It's true! My kids weren't due until January 17th or so, but the came on Dec. 26th 1998... Twins! Needless to day, I was unavailable to my contract clients for 2 weeks or so, and this came much sooner than I had warned them it would. Nevertheless, if I were a GK manager and an instructor told me that he could teach a course on week, but his wife was due to deliver the following week, I would have made the effor to ensure that a backup was available before signing him to that class. I am not saying the instructor should not have taken the class (you gotta work when you have mouths to feed), but the training center should have anticipated the potential for early delivery when they signed him and acted accordingly. Now that my kids are here, I am wondering how soon I can start them on their Cisco training. Not long ago, one of my girls toddled up to me carrying my "Voice over IP Fundamentals" book from Cisco Press, insisting that I read it to her. I did. She actually stayed and listened for nearly all of chapter 1. She can't speak much English yet, so I can't quiz her, but I can tell she retained some of it 'cause she constanly approaches the phone these days, which she never did before... [=`) Dale From: "Jim Erickson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Jim Erickson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question About Global Knowledge Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:03:23 -0500 ""Andre' Paree-Huff"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 1bce01c02e1c$b8f1a4e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:1bce01c02e1c$b8f1a4e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Concerning the instructor he should have never accepted the class that week knowing his wife was due, And if GNK knew this they should never have put him in the class. Babies rarely come when expected. ---JRE--- **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ethernet Trivia
Come to think of it, despite my last response, bits don't occupy space, at least not in theory. Manchester encoding, used in ethernet, signals a bit as a one or a zero depending on the instantaneous change in voltage from +1 to -1 or -1 to +1 volt. The time spent at a particular voltage is just that, time spent. The bit itself is signal with the voltage change, which in theory is instantaneous. Of course, in reality there is no such thing as a square wave. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of whatshakin Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 1:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ethernet Trivia Comments inserted. - Original Message - From: Jay Hennigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 9:14 AM Subject: Re: Ethernet Trivia On 7 Oct 2000 01:20:43 -0400, whatshakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :This makes it sound like there is actually something tangible being put on :the wire. Bits are merely ones and zeros which are signaled by different :voltages etc in the line encoding. : :Bits do not occupy line space. Sure they do. Ever see the terms "wavelength" or "short wave" on a radio? Inversely proportional to the frequency, wave length is the physical length of a signal, based on the distance in free space for one cycle at a given frequency. As the speed of light is slower in media such as twisted pair copper and fiber, the length of a bit at a given frequency is shorter than it would be in free space. The physical length of a signal is not inversely proportional to its frequency. It differs depending on the line encoding. Again, a bit is the term applied to the signal state. Signal states occupy line space. The ones and zeros obviously travel along the wire from the sending to the receiving end. If you could freeze time and take a snapshot, you would see a length of wire with a positive voltage, followed by one of negative charge, the lengths corresponding to bits. This is quite a good hypothetical scenario, and is indeed correct. :Measurements of how fast data can be moved over a wire are the time it takes :for a signal at one end to be heard at the other. The amount of data :(signals) which can be moved across a wire is ascertained by the line :encoding method, and how many signals the encoding system can be made to :produce in a second. Minus the delay factors between point A and B of :course. And those delay factors are the speed-of-light propagation delay of the medium, the delay proportional to the length. Distance (length on the wire) equals velocity (speed of light in the medium) divided by time (length of a bit in fractions of a second). Your formula is correct, however, it does not apply very well to finding delay propogation over a wire because of the numerous other factors which need to be applied additionally. IE: The properties of the wire medium, EMF, block coding, IFG, protocol overhead... :BTW, my calculations for the speed of light resulted in 299,793,100 m/s Which method did you use? Laser and a spinning mirror? :-) Very observant! ;-) -- Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: Ethernet Trivia
Depends on whether you are asking about the leading bit, or the whole frame. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin-Guy Richard Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Ethernet Trivia Both of them. I think! Frank wrote: Let's say we have a 10Mbps and 100Mbps interface. Both transmit the same sized frame over the same type of media and over the same distance and neither experience a collision. Which will get to the destination first? **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bye
Here, here, or is it hear hear? Spoken like a true Mensa. Yes, good spelling is actually associated with and even correlated with intelligence. I think an even more intelligent trait is to hold off hitting the send button until you are sure the memo really says what you want it to. Ray Mosely, CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Erickson Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bye ""John Kaberna"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 008301c023ea$2c95ad20$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:008301c023ea$2c95ad20$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... If you guys really want me to scan them to prove your a bunch of jealous idiots I will. When insulting someone's intelligence, it usually works out better if you know how to spell "you're" correctly. A comma after "idiots" wouldn't hurt either. ---JRE--- **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: US DOD. How do they do it?
To quote from Mission Impossible: Who are you? Ray Mosely, CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wdwdawd wadwadad Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: US DOD. How do they do it? Are there any listers with knowledge of Defense networks out there. I am working with a defence type organisation (western world; not saddam!) and need info on how the US DOD use cisco in their services. For example do they rely on cisco's implementation of IPSEC for non classified traffic or do they just send in the clear on a private network. Do they utilise public networks. Do they utilise THE public network eg VPNS to remote sites? Do they outsouce portions of there network for "connectivity only" and implement their own controlled security at higher layers? I guess the minimum level of security for even non-class info would be 3des and classified would be sent on a completely seperate hardware (kgxxx) encryption based network. Do they utilise the catalyst range of switches and if so how do they maintain high levels of security at layer 2. What stops the cleaner plugging in his lappie, dhcp'ing an address and shoot'n some nukes? Are there any US DOD public web pages on how they use cisco technology? There are many examples of other types of organisation (not in the killing industry) that also have a requirement for TOP SECRET levels of network security. Are there any public web sites with examples of implementations? Thanks! __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password
I've got a 2900XL that my predecessor set up. I went through the Cisco routine for recovering from lost passwords, and have good console and telnet access to the CLI. But I can't get into the Web interface. It asks for a username and password. Two questions: 1. how can I change the web interface username and password from the CLI? 2. any primers or tutorials on Catalyst switches than anyone can recommend? Quick and dirty, and on the Web, just until I can get some books ordered. Thanks, Ray Mosely, CCNA **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password
Thanks for the tips. However the authentication option is not available on my switch. I've got: Switch(config)#ip http ? access-class Restrict access by access-class path Set base path for HTML port HTTP port serverEnable HTTP server I presume HTTP server was already enabled as I am able to connect to the web page, but I can't get authenticated. I'll look into those books. Thanks again, Ray Mosely, CCNA -Original Message- From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:21 AM To: 'Ray Mosely'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password Try the following: Switch(config)#ip http server Switch(config)#ip http authentication enable This tells the switch to use the enable password for web access too. OR Switch(config)#ip http server Switch(config)#ip http authentication local Switch(config)#username ray password mosely This tells the switch to use the local user database for access, plus it will add you to it. As for books, I am currently reading the BCMSN book by Karen Webb which is a little too technical sometimes. I also just bought the CCIE LAN Switching book which is a heavy thing, but after having flipped some pages I think it looks pretty good. There are many good reviews about it. Also, many people think that the Exam Cram book is good too - but I haven't seen it. Hth, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp -Original Message- From: Ray Mosely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password I've got a 2900XL that my predecessor set up. I went through the Cisco routine for recovering from lost passwords, and have good console and telnet access to the CLI. But I can't get into the Web interface. It asks for a username and password. Two questions: 1. how can I change the web interface username and password from the CLI? 2. any primers or tutorials on Catalyst switches than anyone can recommend? Quick and dirty, and on the Web, just until I can get some books ordered. Thanks, Ray Mosely, CCNA **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password
Hmmm, could you expand on this notion? How could it be a vulnerability if the admin can't even get in? My real problem is that I need to monitor the switch in order to diagnose a network connectivity issue. I believe the web based management has some visual monitoring that could be helpful. Thanks, Ray Mosely, CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale Holmes Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 10:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password You should then immediately issue a "no ip http server" to disable the web interface and never use it again. It is a security vulnerability that you should never leave open... From: Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Ray Mosely'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:20:41 -0500 Try the following: Switch(config)#ip http server Switch(config)#ip http authentication enable This tells the switch to use the enable password for web access too. OR Switch(config)#ip http server Switch(config)#ip http authentication local Switch(config)#username ray password mosely This tells the switch to use the local user database for access, plus it will add you to it. As for books, I am currently reading the BCMSN book by Karen Webb which is a little too technical sometimes. I also just bought the CCIE LAN Switching book which is a heavy thing, but after having flipped some pages I think it looks pretty good. There are many good reviews about it. Also, many people think that the Exam Cram book is good too - but I haven't seen it. Hth, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp -Original Message----- From: Ray Mosely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password I've got a 2900XL that my predecessor set up. I went through the Cisco routine for recovering from lost passwords, and have good console and telnet access to the CLI. But I can't get into the Web interface. It asks for a username and password. Two questions: 1. how can I change the web interface username and password from the CLI? 2. any primers or tutorials on Catalyst switches than anyone can recommend? Quick and dirty, and on the Web, just until I can get some books ordered. Thanks, Ray Mosely, CCNA **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: copy config answer who is John Galt
http://www.joe-the-circle.com/wwwboard/messages/1582.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stull, Cory Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:12 AM To: 'Louie Belt' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: copy config answer who is John Galt I'll bite.. John Galt is that guy who shot that guy? Never mind.. He only has two names so he can't be an assassin. Is he a former president? smirk -Original Message- From: Louie Belt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 5:14 PM To: 'Ed'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: copy configs I prefer to memorize the entire config and then type it in to the second router from memory - but that's just me. grin LAB Who is John Galt? **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?
I have pulled Cat 5 cable, some 20 to 30 1000' spools, in the last 2 years (about 5 miles of cable). One time, on a run of about 500', I had a break in one of the wires required for Ethernet. Instead of pulling the wire over again, I changed the color coding at each end and had a working cable. There are also some high speed technologies that require all 8 wires, so if you are converting an old wiring plant to high speed, you may need to either re-pull higher standard cable or you may need to use all 8 wires. What NOT to do with those extra wires: don't run telephone connections. It can be done, but is NOT advisable. There is a little something called crosstalk, which occurs when a signal in one wire induces a spurious signal in an adjacent wire. Network voltage levels are typically about 1 volt, and telephone ringing voltages can go as high as 90 volts A.C. The crosstalk that can potentially occur when the phone is ringing is high enough to damage network equipment. So, CCIE TB, why don't you use a real name? Ray Mosely -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of CCIE TB Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why 8 wires in RJ-45? Hi group members In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need the other four. The same thing applies to DB-25 and other types of cables. We don't use all of the wires. Why? Regards to all _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Word wrap - was Re: MCNS (v2.0) questions
I usually click on the hot spot, and while the browser is establishing that it has a bad URL, I copy the second line from the email, and append (paste) it onto the end of the first part of the URL. That way, I can avoid opening notepad and doing editing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vern Stitt Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Word wrap - was Re: MCNS (v2.0) questions I usually copy and paste the two lines into notepad, edit out all the extra linefeeds, etc and then [CNTRL] A, [CNTRL] C and [CONTRL] V into the URL address window. Vern Stitt CCNA . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... OK, I'll bite and assume this is a genuine question and not a leg-pull, since nobody else seems to have answered it. Many mail programs will automatically turn a URL into a hot-spot so you can open the URL directly from email. However if the URL is long enough to wrap over more than one line, usually only the first line is turned into the hot-spot, so if you click on it it won't work because it's missing part of the URL. "Watch the word wrap" just means that if the URL is longer than one line, you may need to cut and paste it into your browser. Otherwise the mailing list gets clogged up with comments like "but this URL doesn't work for me"... I was going to make some smart comment about word wrap being encapsulation of words in sentences, but I'm a bit too braindead to think it out properly... JMcL -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 08/08/2000 16:30 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/08/2000 05:38:15 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA) Subject: Re: MCNS (v2.0) questions In a message dated 8/7/00 3:30:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Haven't taken the exam but there's an outline for the MCNS course on the Cisco site. http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/course_description.pl?Cours e= TRN-MCNSVersion=2.0From=Network_Management watch the word wrap Karen E Young Network Engineer ELF Technologies, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I've tried not to ask this for a long time but it's really starting to drive me crazy!!! what is this "word wrap". Whenever I go to cisco's site from a post like this I try to look for something unusual, hoping that it will be this "word wrap". But I haven't seen it yet. Could someone please fill me in... Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year killing everyone inside. ~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sysco cert question
Forget the studying. I think you're ready for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ray M CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drew Anderson Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Solt, Jasper (spawar)' Subject: Sysco cert question I have been studying hard for the Sysco Certified Condiment Engineer 2.0 Exam. Does anybody know how many ounces of ketchup are in one packet? How many mustard packets will be distibuted on an hourly basis? Does mustard always have to go into the yellow squeeze bottle? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Gig Ethernet Copper Wiring
Hmmm, a little (with the emphasis on little) bit of research dug this up, a URL and a quote. Not even a mention of Cat5E. http://www.gigabit-ethernet.org/technology/faq.html What is the cabling requirement for supporting 1000BASE-T? The IEEE 802.3ab Task Force has always targeted the installed-base Cat. 5 UTP as the wiring required to support Gigabit Ethernet, and there has been no deviation from that objective. It is expected that any Cat. 5 UTP installation that are able to support 100BASE-TX will successfully be able to support Gigabit Ethernet on Copper (1000BASE-T). For more information, please reference the two document that Gigabit Ethernet Alliance has published: the 1000BASE-T cabling technical brief and the 1000BASE-T white paper (available on the Gigabit Ethernet Alliance web site). -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of AISSent: Monday, July 31, 2000 11:36 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Gig Ethernet Copper Wiring I was just speaking to someone who was very, very sure that 1000 Base-T required not only Cat 5E cable, but that the cable had to be specially bonded and that it needed special connectors. I had always though that all I needed was regular Cat 5e. This guy seemed so sure of himself, that I didn't want to tell him he was crazy without checking first. Is he right? Thanks, Gary
RE: Free Seminar in Houston, Texas
Let me ask a quick security survey question. How many people on this list would open an unsolicited e-mail attachment from somebody with an AOL address? I'd love to know more about a free seminar in Houston, but unfortuneately I'm not going to open the attachment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Free Seminar in Houston, Texas ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BCRAN Exam
Watch out for the line wrap on the URL. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 4:46 AM To: Timothy W. Roberts; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BCRAN Exam http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/exam_list.ht m Good Luck !!! Phil - Original Message - From: "Timothy W. Roberts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:32 PM Subject: BCRAN Exam Does any one have a list of the objectives? The objectives on Cisco's page on summarized. Do you need to know the particulars about every router? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Very good web site for CCNA
You are correct. You have the right to share THAT book. You do not have the right to reproduce the book. Copyright laws prohibit unauthorized reproduction. Publishing the digital copy of the book on the Web is unauthorized reproduction. It is NOT lending. I like Priscilla's suggestion. Let's get back to our namesake: cisco at groupstudy, and drop this thread. It is up to the author and the publisher to pursue the legal problem. Ray Mosely, CCNA, MCSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William E Gragido Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 6:08 PM To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Very good web site for CCNA I could be wrong, and do correct me if thats the case, but I was under the impression that once someone has purchased a book, that they have the right to share that book with others provided that no monetary exchange is taking place. If there is such an exchange then I could see how an author could get his/her feathers in an uproar, but if there is no exchange what is the harm? If what you are proposing was truly the case, than the disbursement of knowledge via books(that in centuries past were hand copied), would never had occurred. Furthermore, what you are proposing directly targets the largest offenders this sort of breach of ethics.libraries, schools, colleges and universities. Not trying to start another flame war, simply striving for more clarity. Tell me this, have you ever leant a book to someone? Any book, doesn't have to be a technical book necessarily, just a book. If so, I would encourage you to discipline yourself! :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 11:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Very good web site for CCNA Ben Lovegrove's Web site links to Amazon's site so you can buy the books. Of course, that's completely different than what this other person did. This other person posted the whole book online on what appears to be his own personal Web site. He doesn't appear to be associated with the publisher. I don't think he's one of the authors either, though that's generally irrelevant. The publisher usually owns the copyright. The publisher, Syngress, got what they deserved possibly, since they published the whole book on the included CD. But when you open that CD you agree to use it for your own personal use only. (At least that's usually the case. Does anyone have the book with the original CD packaging? Could you tell us what it says?) Priscilla At 09:30 PM 7/24/00, William E Gragido wrote: Priscilla, On the one hand, its a definite ethical error, on the flipside(gotta play the devil's advocate here), is it any different than what thousands of technical sites do? I am not justifying it, from a legal perspective however I would like to point out that some the best sites on the internet dedicated to networking and data communications have or are doing the same thing. Take Ben Lovegrove's site, which by the way, I love! He has links to several other sites containing entire volumes of information(see the Syngress link). Is it wrong? To some perhaps, if copyright and credit are not giving their due, but I would be curious to see how many of who utilize these resources would actively campaign against them. Just a few thoughts! By the way, your books are great! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Neelanga Udash' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Very good web site for CCNA I was really impressed when I first reviewed this online material. It's so much better than most of the crap that's out there. Then I realized it's the "CCNA Cisco Certified Network Associate Study Guide" by Syngress! How could someone publish this online?? It appears to be a flagrant example of theft. Priscilla -- From: Neelanga Udash Reply To: Neelanga Udash Sent: Monday, 24 July, 2000 7:43 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:Very good web site for CCNA Dear all, Take a look at this site. There is a whole book of CCNA material written by a CCIE, http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/testhome.htmhttp://www.rkingma.com /cisco/testhome.htm http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/testhome.htm *** U.D. Neelanga Udash Network Support Analyst IT Division The British Council 49 Alfred House Gardens Colombo 00300 Sri Lanka Tel: +94 (0)1 581171 (ext.260) Fax: +94 (0)1 587079 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:neelanga.udash@b ritishcouncil.lk Web: http://www.britishcoun
RE: NetXray
http://www.axial.co.uk/products/manufacturers/nai/sniffer/snifferbasic_intro.html -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donald B Johnson JrSent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 3:23 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: NetXray Do you have any documentation for NetXray I just inherited it from the previous Net Engineer and there is no Documentation on how to use it . Any direction would be helpful Thanks Duck
RE: Running a DC powered Catalyst 1900 ???
Phil: This nails it down as destined for a telco supply. Yes, Phil, the polarity switch is all that is required. Marlin P Jones has one -48 VDC 1 amp (roughly 48 watts) for $56, and one used -48 VDC 15 amps (roughly 750 watts) for $40. A little history: telephone companies use/used batteries to supply their power to the lines. Whether it is +48 VDC or -48 VDC depends simply on whether the positive or negative supply line is attached to the ground (yes, to the earth itself). In modern supplies directly attached to the device both lines are attached, and neither line goes to ground, so a simple polarity switch is all that is required. -48 VDC is the nominal line voltage on a telephone system. This drops to about -20 VDC when someone picks up a receiver. The ringing voltage is about 90 Volts AC, which can easily damage sensitive DC based equipment, and cause interference on adjacent data lines. I am surprised at the wattage requirement. The 9 volt battery scheme wouldn't supply enough amps, and the 6 volt battery scheme would run the batteries down pretty darn quick. -Original Message- From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 4:49 AM To: Ray Mosely Subject: Re: Running a DC powered Catalyst 1900 ??? Hey Ray- this is great information, but I have revisited the specs for this switch... http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/28201900/1900dc/dcpwrint .htm#xtocid231323 To add to the mix, this requires: 39W, -40 to -60 VDC Any ideas- could this be done with a polarity change ??? Thanks !!! Phil - Original Message - From: Ray Mosely To: Circusnuts ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:30 PM Subject: RE: Running a DC powered Catalyst 1900 ??? Somebody else said that it was 48 volts. That's the line voltage on a telephone line, and as we know, a telephone line does not carry a lot of amps, so almost any 48 volt source would be enough. Two marine batteries, or four garden tractor batteries would carry it for many days before needing re-charging. You could hook up 8 of those big square 6 volt batteries. 5 or 6 9-volt batteries would probably run it, but they would poop out pretty quickly. The best bet is to find a telco supply, like Marlin P. Jones, and order a 48 volt power supply. http:/www.mpja.com Their catalog lists 48 volt supplies starting at $4.00 and up. Good luck, Ray M, CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 8:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Running a DC powered Catalyst 1900 ??? I think I've goofed. I bought a Catalyst switch did not read the ad correctly. I have a DC running device. How can I use this ??? Any advice (other than jumper cables from my car :-) Thanks !!! Phil ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Running a DC powered Catalyst 1900 ???
Oz: Oh my, I'm deeply offended. Actually, I never recommended 4 car batteries, but it can be done that way. Wire them in series, charge them in parallel. (Did I forget to mention that I am a Certified Electronics Technician?) Phil has verified the voltage specs in a personal post. QUOTE Hey Ray- this is great information, but I have revisited the specs for this switch... http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/28201900/1900dc/dcpwrint .htm#xtocid231323 To add to the mix, this requires: 39W, -40 to -60 VDC Any ideas- could this be done with a polarity change ??? Thanks !!! Phil END QUOTE This nails it down as destined for a telco supply. Yes, Phil, the polarity switch is all that is required. Marlin P Jones has one -48 VDC 1 amp (roughly 48 watts) for $56, and one used -48 VDC 15 amps (roughly 750 watts) for $40. A little history: telephone companies use/used batteries to supply their power to the lines. Whether it is +48 VDC or -48 VDC depends simply on whether the positive or negative supply line is attached to the ground (yes, to the earth itself). In modern supplies directly attached to the device both lines are attached, and neither line goes to ground, so a simple polarity switch is all that is required. -48 VDC is the nominal line voltage on a telephone system. This drops to about -20 VDC when someone picks up a receiver. The ringing voltage is about 90 Volts AC, which can easily damage sensitive DC based equipment, and cause interference on adjacent data lines. I am surprised at the wattage requirement. The 9 volt battery scheme wouldn't supply enough amps, and the 6 volt battery scheme would run the batteries down pretty darn quick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oz Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 8:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Running a DC powered Catalyst 1900 ??? Bzrt wrong answer HEH The 48 volts is the DC power that the equipment uses My Portmaster box needs 5 amps.. Some how I think the idea of dragging in 4 car batteries would test the "wife to rack in kitchen quotient" The 8 foot rack was a definite * what !!! are you out of your (expletive deleted) mind. 4 car batteries would be cause to find myself impaled on less than small kitchen knife. Big time heh "Somebody else said that it was 48 volts. That's the line voltage on a telephone line, and as we know, a telephone line does not carry a lot of amps, so almost any 48 volt source would be enough." Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Osborne CCNP books
Osborne has a set of four CCNP books. Any evaluations of these? Thanks, Ray M CCNA ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Running a DC powered Catalyst 1900 ???
Somebody else said that it was 48 volts. That's the line voltage on a telephone line, and as we know, a telephone line does not carry a lot of amps, so almost any 48 volt source would be enough. Two marine batteries, or four garden tractor batteries would carry it for many days before needing re-charging. You could hook up 8 of those big square 6 volt batteries. 5 or 6 9-volt batteries would probably run it, but they would poop out pretty quickly. The best bet is to find a telco supply, like Marlin P. Jones, and order a 48 volt power supply. http:/www.mpja.com Their catalog lists 48 volt supplies starting at $4.00 and up. Good luck, Ray M, CCNA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of CircusnutsSent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 8:05 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Running a DC powered Catalyst 1900 ??? I think I've goofed. I bought a Catalyst switch did not read the ad correctly. I have a DC running device. How can I use this ??? Any advice (other than jumper cables from my car :-) Thanks !!!Phil
RE: Token ring question - Solved!
Dale, I concur. Most MAU's that I have worked with are 8 port plus RI and RO. And further, these do an internal wrap around, so RI and RO are only used to connect to other MAU's. No RI-RO cable is needed if the MAU is stand alone. Ray M CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale Cantrell Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 6:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Token ring question - Solved! I'm gonna have to disagree with that statement. At least in part. The MAU that I have, STAR-TEK, ( I can't even find out how old it is, no Url.) 828AT, has 1-8 ports and a Ri and a Ro also. Tell me if yours is the same way? Dale Original Message Follows From: David B McGlumphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: David B McGlumphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Matt Shell'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Token ring question - Solved! Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:19:55 -0400 Ports 1 and 8 on a MAU are reserved for ring in and ring out for daisy chaining MAU's. You cannot use them for stations. -Original Message- From: Matt Shell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 1:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Token ring question - Solved! Don't you hate it when your trying to set up a Layer 3 scenario, but you get stuck troubleshooting Layer 2 problems!?!?!?! Thanks to everyone who posted and emailed suggestions. Everything is working now. Some info that I probably should have included in the first post was that I was plugged into Ports 1 2 on the MSAU (but I also tried Ports 7 8), and that the MSAU was giving a clicking sound in synch with the routers giving debugging info - about once every 10 seconds. Also, I had tried each router individually and got identical results, and there are no other stations plugged into this MSAU. Basically, all I did to solve it was plug the cables into ports 3 4 on the MSAU, and walk away for about an hour. When I came back we were UP and UP! I have since plugged the cables back into ports 1,2,7,and 8 and verified all are working. I'm guessing that either the ports were stuck (and they auto-reset themselves - Is that possible?), or perhaps I just didn't push those type 1 connectors in far enough. If there's any Token Ring gurus out there that would like to post about what could possible cause a port to become stuck, or if it's possible for them to auto-reset, I'm sure everyone would appreciate it. Thanks again for all the replies! This list rulz! Matt ""Matt Shell"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8hsfuj$vfr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8hsfuj$vfr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have two 2502s plugged into an IBM 8228 MSAU in a lab. They are connected with a 9 pin to Type 1 cable. For some reason, I can't get the line to come up. When I do "show interface", I see the TokenRing0 as "initializing" and "down". I wait a second and it goes to "down" / "down", then back to "initialize" / "down". I admit, I don't know much about Token Ring, but this should be fairly straight forward, right? On each router config I have: RouterA: ! interface TokenRing0 ip address 192.168.30.1 255.255.255.0 ring-speed 16 ! RouterB: ! interface TokenRing0 ip address 192.168.30.2 255.255.255.0 ring-speed 16 ! When I do "debug token events" I get this output on both routers: %TR-3-OPENFAIL: Unit 0, open failed: Phys. Insertion, ring beaconing %TR-3-BADSTART: Unit 0, Start completion and wrong idb state - state= 0 TR0: reset from 30559AE TR0: txtmr: 0x0, msclk: 0x146EF494, qt: 0 (0ms) starting. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for the help! Matt ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report
switching book?
Does anybody have info on the Cisco Press book: Building Cisco Multilayered Switched Networks ? I've found two different publication dates: October 1998 and May 2000, and both have the same ISBN number listed for it. I really don't want to buy a 1998 book for a 2000 exam. RM CCNA
RE: Token ring question - Solved!
Yes, ports can get stuck. Most MAU's have electo-mechanical relays that are activated by a "phantom voltage". That's why you hear clicking noises when a token ring device joins the ring. I've gone into wiring closets where a port is marked "bad", ripped the bad tag off and plugged into a working port. Ray M. CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Shell Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 12:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Token ring question - Solved! Don't you hate it when your trying to set up a Layer 3 scenario, but you get stuck troubleshooting Layer 2 problems!?!?!?! Thanks to everyone who posted and emailed suggestions. Everything is working now. Some info that I probably should have included in the first post was that I was plugged into Ports 1 2 on the MSAU (but I also tried Ports 7 8), and that the MSAU was giving a clicking sound in synch with the routers giving debugging info - about once every 10 seconds. Also, I had tried each router individually and got identical results, and there are no other stations plugged into this MSAU. Basically, all I did to solve it was plug the cables into ports 3 4 on the MSAU, and walk away for about an hour. When I came back we were UP and UP! I have since plugged the cables back into ports 1,2,7,and 8 and verified all are working. I'm guessing that either the ports were stuck (and they auto-reset themselves - Is that possible?), or perhaps I just didn't push those type 1 connectors in far enough. If there's any Token Ring gurus out there that would like to post about what could possible cause a port to become stuck, or if it's possible for them to auto-reset, I'm sure everyone would appreciate it. Thanks again for all the replies! This list rulz! Matt ""Matt Shell"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8hsfuj$vfr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8hsfuj$vfr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have two 2502s plugged into an IBM 8228 MSAU in a lab. They are connected with a 9 pin to Type 1 cable. For some reason, I can't get the line to come up. When I do "show interface", I see the TokenRing0 as "initializing" and "down". I wait a second and it goes to "down" / "down", then back to "initialize" / "down". I admit, I don't know much about Token Ring, but this should be fairly straight forward, right? On each router config I have: RouterA: ! interface TokenRing0 ip address 192.168.30.1 255.255.255.0 ring-speed 16 ! RouterB: ! interface TokenRing0 ip address 192.168.30.2 255.255.255.0 ring-speed 16 ! When I do "debug token events" I get this output on both routers: %TR-3-OPENFAIL: Unit 0, open failed: Phys. Insertion, ring beaconing %TR-3-BADSTART: Unit 0, Start completion and wrong idb state - state= 0 TR0: reset from 30559AE TR0: txtmr: 0x0, msclk: 0x146EF494, qt: 0 (0ms) starting. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for the help! Matt ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Study Habits Part 2
There are no atheists in the foxholes? Ray M. CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Thomas Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 2:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Study Habits Part 2 I can state for the record there is definitely prayer whenever I am testing! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Study Habits Part 2 I'm in total agreement with you Denis.h -Original Message- From: Poyerd, Denis To: 'JL'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6/8/00 1:41 PM Subject: RE: Study Habits Part 2 Foolish and ignorent are those that believe in themselves only than recognize and praise God. -Original Message- From: JL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Study Habits Part 2 begin Rant modeLest we become deluged by by prayers to the "Invisible Pink Unicorn" or the "Multi-Tentacled Purple Squid', not to mention many other slightly more mainstream religions, I think such chants and neditations should be left off list. I would like to think that educated, highly technical people would have no need for such mindless superstitions, but alas, I am constantly reminded that while people can be VERY intelligent in one area, they are extremely deficient in others.end Rant mode Can we please keep our respective religious beliefs off line and all focus on our goal of certification? thank you, JL BSOFH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of gwakin Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Habits Part 2 this is strictly theological piccadillo but it's the 'Prayer of St. Francis.' disclaimer- Contrary to popular belief, we RCs worship neither the saints nor the pope, so semantical inaccuracies like this tend to make some of us a little edgy. Seems appropriate that we can add hard work and study to a virtuous, principled life prayer... the only thing we can't really claim is the Franciscan vow of 'poverty, chastity, and obedience', especially if we're studying for a certification that will allow us to earn $120K/yearly and above. Chuck Larrieu wrote: Prayer to St. Francis Lord, make me an instrument of Your peace. Where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury, pardon; where there is doubt, faith; where there is despair, hope; where there is darkness, light; where there is sadness, joy. O, Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console; to be understood as to understand; to be loved as to love; For it is in giving that we receive; it is in pardoning that we are pardoned; it is in dying that we are born again to eternal life; it is in studying that we pass certification tests Chuck ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Stopping Ping
Try ctrl-C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ryan Moffett Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 9:49 PM To: Cisco Groupstudy List Subject: RE: Stopping Ping I would imagine logging out of the router would do the sameping is run in exec mode... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Albert Ip Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 10:27 PM To: 'Lawrence Dwyer'; 'Groupstudy' Subject: RE: Stopping Ping You got the answer there. "Ctr Shft 6" same time, than "x" Albert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lawrence Dwyer Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 6:27 PM To: Groupstudy Subject: Stopping Ping Is there any way to stop a long ping on a router? I set a hundred packets or more some times to get to other routers and see what I am getting, but if I wish to terminate a routers pining before the number I set is finished, is there a way? Ctr Shft 6 x, break, pause, etc etc I havne't found the magic keys yet. Larry -- Lawrence Dwyer, MCSE CCNA Sherikon, Inc 301-619-7946 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exam Outlines For CCNA 2.0
I'm not sure of what the difference would be between IPX and Novell IPX, however Microsoft does have NWLink which is an IPX clone that is 99% interchangeable with IPX. Bells and whistles. Perhaps Novell IPX refers to the complete Novell implementation, and IPX refers to generic use of IPX in other settings. Certain products like Ghost and Lab Expert (Image Blaster) commonly use IPX protocols for multicasting. No Novell involved. Regards, Ray M. CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 5:55 PM To: Cisco Mail List Subject: Exam Outlines For CCNA 2.0 I'm particularly interested in obtaining study materials for "windowing" Is that the "next great thing" ? And are we allowed to bring our own squeegees into the test center? Oh, and while I'm asking, anyone know the difference between "Novell IPX" and "IPX" ? Oh, brother... Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Oz Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Exam Outlines For CCNA 2.0 here is all it says folks Oz http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/ccna_507 .pdf The CCNA (640-507) exam will contain a combination of the following topics: 1) Bridging/Switching Static VLANS Spantree Switching modes/methods PPP 2)OSI Reference Model Layered Communication Layer Definitions Encapsulation/Decapsalation Layer Functions Connection Oriented Models Connectionless Models Model Benefits 3) Network Protocols TCP/IP Novell IPX Windowing IPX Novell IPX 4) Routing IGRP ICMP 5) WAN Protocols ISDN Frame Relay HDLC ATM 6) Network Management Access Lists Telnet DNS 7) LAN Design Ethernet Fast Ethernet Gigabit Ethernet Token Ring 8) Physical Connectivity IEEE Standards ANSI Standards 9) Cisco Basics, IOS Network Basics IOS CLI Router Troubleshooting Router Packet Switching Modes IOS CLI Switch ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ethernet 2 rj45's on one cable :P ?
This can and is done. Some companies even make special adapters for this purpose. You need to be aware of the possibility of interference or cross-talk, and that the wires are paired, thus a signal should not be split across pairs. The leftover pairs are 4/5 and 7/8. At Southern Illinois University, the cat 3 carries ethernet or token ring, and telephone connections. The ringing voltages on telephone lines are quite high, but never seems to create any appreciable interference on the adjacent wires. Good luck, Ray Mosely, CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Marcus Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 7:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ethernet 2 rj45's on one cable :P ? hey :) in normal cat5 ethernet, 4 of the 8 wires are used correct ? if this is the case, would it be possible to have 2 physical links over the 1 cat5 cable. as in in 2 rj45's coming out of each end of the cat5, thus making 2 network connections over the 1 cable. anyone no if this has been done and how it worked, or if it cant be done, and why :) ? thanks :) Justin ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Used IOS for sale?
I think, perhaps, that he meant a license and some media. The IOS is, I believe, licensed per router, and the IOS media that I have dealt with (being a neophyte) has all been CD. If I'm wrong about the licensing, then I hope someone can set me up with something like 11.3 enterprise feature pack. I hestitate to spend hundreds of dollars on it. Thanks, Ray M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dollard Morgan Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 7:39 AM To: 'Michel Lavondes'; Dollard Morgan Cc: 'Koh Chang Wai'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Used IOS for sale? hahahaha, has any1 checked that we dont get riped off by cisco when we download the versions from their site. they might jsut be giving us second hand junk =) Morgan -Message d'origine- De: Michel Lavondes [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: mercredi 24 mai 2000 11:57 À:Dollard Morgan Cc: 'Koh Chang Wai'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet:RE: Used IOS for sale? On Wed, 24 May 2000, Dollard Morgan wrote: whats a used ios version look like, i get all mine electronically, so im not sure how that can be used. It's made of recycled electrons. You can often tell, since they tend to be slighty smaller from the wear and tear. Morgan -Message d'origine- De: Koh Chang Wai [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: mercredi 24 mai 2000 09:53 À:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet:Used IOS for sale? Hi I'm looking for a used or new copy of IOS 11.2 or above. Please email me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have a copy. Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bungee jumping and skydiving are for wimps. If you want to experience true gut-wrenching terror, have children. --Dusty Rhoades. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: fnarr
Hmm, I did get an offline asking about the true meaning of guffaw and also fnarr. I'm not sure if the inquirer was cross cultural or not, but I had little to say about fnarr. Anyway, I like the chortle's. You're keeping this thread on an upbeat, when I was down. So, Brian, I have also criticized people for OT threads, and I've taken the opposite position and encouraged certain types of OT threads, and I've seen arguments both ways. Sometimes, people just have something to say and so they say it, kind of like your response was something you had to say. Don't worry, I'm sure the thread will die out as soon as SysAdm tells us what fnarr means. Regards, Ray M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Hand Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:30 AM To: 'SysAdm'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: fnarr Not to be a jerk, but please don't waste others time with these types of e-mails, limit them to the topic of the mailing list or reply only to the person sending. Thanks -Original Message- From: SysAdm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 6:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: fnarr you can't see me, Im blind. Just for that, I'll throw in another guffaw and raise it two chortle's Ray Mosely wrote: I'll see your guffaw, and up it two grrr's and a RTFM. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SysAdm Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: fnarr guffaw ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: buying routers
There's nothing wrong with learning some token ring concepts. But you probably want to have some hands on with Ethernet interfaces as well. Other things to do with token ring: set up a linux box to do token ring to ethernet conversion - can double as a firewall - very easy set up a token ring bridge with an old P/S2 model 30 - very easy set up a bridge with 4 to 16 mbps conversion - just as easy you could also look for old 3000 routers, or maybe a 2513 with ethernet and token ring ports. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tayta Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: buying routers my query again any more opinions on whether two token ring routers are a good idea as a basis for building a lab. Instinct tells me this could be stupid as ethernet is way more widespread, but for lab simulation it probably makes no differance ?? they are a good price 2502/2504, sub 1500$, I cannot seem to see 2501s or 3s anywhere approaching this reasonable price, I am now study for ccna, but will be going on to the more advanced certs. thanks Tayta ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: fnarr
I'll see your guffaw, and up it two grrr's and a RTFM. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SysAdm Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: fnarr guffaw ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Token ring db9
The Web is a wonderful tool. I wonder why more people don't use it. I guess Web searching is an arcane art. I'll tell you once. You can't do what you want to. Now you job is to figure out why. Hint: "media filter" BTW: there's no such thing as a "token ring hub". There is however, a thing called a MUA, or sometimes a MSAU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ryan Block Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Token ring db9 I need the pinout for db9m to rj45f so I can connect my 2502 to a token ring hub. Thanks. Ryan ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to enable the telnet on NT Box
And the telnet deamon is built into Windows 2000 Professional (workstation). I didn't know that, and put a trial telnet service on my W2K workstation, and screwed it up when it timed out. Another workstation I've got works fine, and my original works fine also, without the aftermarket telnet service. For cheap legal copies of W2K, go to www.microsoft.com and search for "HOT kits". Ray M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Roberts Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to enable the telnet on NT Box The telnet client is part of the standard install. Just run telnet ip address. The telnet service/deamon (telnetd) was in one of the resource kits and has to added seperately. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
