Re: CCNA Exam ??? [7:71614]
yes. the new exam will add more routing protocols question and labs. tommy yin ""Reza Arvandian"" P4HkSJ Hi All, > > Is it right that CCNA 640-607 exam will be expire soon(on Sep.) ? > if yes give more info. about the new exam and the changes... > > Regards > Reza Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=71682&t=71614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA certification [7:70400]
I think that you only need to pass one CCNP test in order to extend your CCNA status. Below is a quote from www.cisco.com "CCNA certifications are valid for three years. To recertify, pass the current certification exam or any new exam at the Professional or Cisco Qualified Specialist level bearing the prefix 642." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Momb Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA certification [7:70400] To All, I have a friend who has a CCNA and its about to expire. He has three tests completed out of the four toward his CCNP. If his CCNA certification expires, can he take the final test and be a CCNP with a expired CCNA. What is Cisco's policy concerning this? Mike Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=70416&t=70400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA certification [7:70400]
He can still take the CCNP , however if the CCNA expired when he writes the final CCNP exam , he will then NOT be a CCNP , he will have to re do his CCNA exam, pass it , and then he will be recognized as a CCNP. -Original Message- From: Mike Momb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2003 03:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA certification [7:70400] To All, I have a friend who has a CCNA and its about to expire. He has three tests completed out of the four toward his CCNP. If his CCNA certification expires, can he take the final test and be a CCNP with a expired CCNA. What is Cisco's policy concerning this? Mike NOTICE - This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copying, disclosure or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by person or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by return email and delete this message. This message should not be copied or used for any purpose other than intended, nor should it be disclosed to any other person. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the view of Investec Group, its subsidiaries or associates. The Investec Group is not liable for the security of information sent by e-mail at your request, nor for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in the communication nor for any delay in its receipt. Please note that the recipient must scan this e-mail and any attached files for viruses and the like. The Investec Group accepts no liability of whatever nature for any loss, liability, damage or expense resulting directly or indirectly from the access of any files which are attached to this message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=70407&t=70400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA certification [7:70400]
To be a CCNP you must have a valid and current CCNA. The CCNP then validates your new status. I found this out when my friend passed all the four exams for CCDP but because he didn't have the CCDA he cannot call himself CCDP until he does. The same applies to CCNP without a CCNA. To get my CCDP I require passing both CCDA and the design exam, not just the design alone. Steve Wilson CCNP CCDA Network Engineer -Original Message- From: Mike Momb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2003 14:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA certification [7:70400] To All, I have a friend who has a CCNA and its about to expire. He has three tests completed out of the four toward his CCNP. If his CCNA certification expires, can he take the final test and be a CCNP with a expired CCNA. What is Cisco's policy concerning this? Mike Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=70405&t=70400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA Exam - number of subnet question [7:65234]
I think it depends on the question. I've found that most exams will give a little hint, either the answer doesn't support both choices or the question will have some comment of suitability of subnets. if I had to choose though, I'd choose 2^6-2, since it wasn't till 12.0 that the ip-subnet zero was made default and the tests were written prior to that. scott ""Geert Nijs"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello, > > When you are asked for the number of subnets in the exam CCNA 640-607: > > ie. 150.10.10.10 255.255.255.252.0 > > -> subnet bits = 6 > > -> supported subnets: 2^6 or 2^6-2 ?? > > In other words: if noting is mentioned in the question, do I have to > count zero-subnet and broadcast subnet as valid ? or invalid ? > when nothing is mentioned. > > > Geert Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=65241&t=65234 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]
I've found that it's useful to have a variety of kit, and as many routers as possible. Cisco prices on eBay have fallen through the floor. A 4000 series with NP-4Ts is a good frame switch. 2500 are good workhorses, best to get one with an ISDN BRI (I didn't and regretted it). Once you have a couple of ethernet-based routers, don't discount token-ring 2500s if they are cheap or any 3000 series router. 3000s are ludicrously cheap at the moment and can run 2500 IOS 12.0 images. Don't buy multiple 2600s unless you're rich. Two 12-port switches allows better practise that one 24-port. rgds Marc "McManus, Robert BGI SDC" wrote: > > Could someone give me advice on what I would need (models) for a home lab > setup for my CCNA/CCNP training? Any advice would be appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60804&t=60727 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]
I would get three 2500 and a switch. Unless you are going to upgrade to a CCIE lab, I would say that 2600s might be a little $$$ ""Kenan Ahmed Siddiqi"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi there, > I suggest get 3 2600 series routers. Even though 2500 would also do, 2600 > has some value added services which the 2500 don't offer. Just a thought! :) > There are other things needed which I am sure others will help you out with. > Good luck with your lab set-up. > > Cheers, > > Kenan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60778&t=60727 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]
Hi there, I suggest get 3 2600 series routers. Even though 2500 would also do, 2600 has some value added services which the 2500 don't offer. Just a thought! :) There are other things needed which I am sure others will help you out with. Good luck with your lab set-up. Cheers, Kenan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60734&t=60727 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]
do you plan on doing lab practice on ATM Frame Relay ISDN Modem Dial If so then you need 2 or 3 routers and atleast one switch. The routers need capability for all the above since those topics are covered in the various CCNP test. Its not necessary to do labs for the CCNP, but it helps. Larry Letterman Network Engineer San Jose Transport Cisco Systems Inc. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > McManus, Robert BGI SDC > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727] > > > Could someone give me advice on what I would need (models) for a home lab > setup for my CCNA/CCNP training? Any advice would be appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60733&t=60727 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA and CCNP exam reviews [7:55930]
I was wondering, I have the older version of the CCNA Certification Kit (640-507). Will this still be good enough since they're now at 640-607. Does anyone know? Thanks, Shawn ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message news:200210190540.FAA15828@;groupstudy.com... > If you are preparing for the new CCNA or CCNP exams, I have written exam > review articles which I believe you will find helpful. > > Good luck! > > CCNA exam: www.tcpmag.com/column.asp?id=EXAM&cid=152 > > CCNP Routing exam: www.tcpmag.com/column.asp?id=EXAM&cid=209 > > CCNP Support exam: www.tcpmag.com/column.asp?id=EXAM&cid=202 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=56156&t=55930 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA Exam Pasing Score [7:52602]
If no one has yet told you its 849. Cheers Nderitu Ernesto Diaz wrote: >Does Anybody know the 640-607 passing score? > > > >Regards, > > > >Ernesto J. Diaz L. > >Information Technology > >Halliburton Venezuela > >Master Vzla: 58.291.652 > >Office Vzla: 58.291.6502014 > >Mobile Vzla: 58.416.6912573 > > > >Use Track-IT! for all IT Requirements > > http://trackit/ > >[GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of >image001.gif] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=52655&t=52602 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Exam Pasing Score [7:52602]
The current required score is an 849 out of possible 1000 points. Of course they give you the first 300 points for just showing up for the test. Best of Luck on the test. It has gotten harder with the new simulations now added to the test. Get some practice on a router or two before attempting the actual test. Christopher M. Heffner Strategic Network Solutions, Inc. CCSI, CCIE, MCT, MCSE, MCNI, MCNE, CLI, PCLP, FCSE, CTT, ASE, A+ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=52633&t=52602 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Exam Passing Score [7:52602]
According to the Cisco website, they don't publish passing scores anymore. They state: "Cisco does not publish exam passing scores because exam questions and passing scores are subject to change without notice." So, even if someone gave you their passing score, yours may not be the same. See the following link for more information: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/about_exams. html Shawn K. > -Original Message- > From: Ernesto Diaz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCNA Exam Pasing Score [7:52602] > > Does Anybody know the 640-607 passing score? > > > > Regards, > > > > Ernesto J. Diaz L. > > Information Technology > > Halliburton Venezuela > > Master Vzla: 58.291.652 > > Office Vzla: 58.291.6502014 > > Mobile Vzla: 58.416.6912573 > > > > Use Track-IT! for all IT Requirements > > http://trackit/ > > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name > of > image001.gif] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=52612&t=52602 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Exam vs. BSCN Exam? [7:49829]
No, CCNA is very easy compared CCNP except the CCNP(switching), remaining are not harder than CCNA, requires indepth study ,,, Sunil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49848&t=49829 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Exam vs. BSCN Exam? [7:49829]
Yes, it is focused on EIGRP, OSPF, and BGP. I just took it a couple of weeks ago for a client commitment and it didn't stray from those topics (at least on my exam). Shawn K. > -Original Message- > From: Robert Cluett [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCNA Exam vs. BSCN Exam? [7:49829] > > All, > > I passed the CCNA, and found it varied as far as what types of questions > the > asked. Is the Routing exam the same. So far the study material seems > very > focused on OSPF, EIGRP, and BGP. Any coments? > > Rob Cluett, CCNA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49838&t=49829 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Exam vs. BSCN Exam? [7:49829]
was it easier in you opinion? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49840&t=49829 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Exam [7:47923]
i think this site is good one http://www.net130.com but please do not tell anybody cause the cbts over there is free lol -Original Message- From: Joupin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA Exam [7:47923] Hi all Im going to sit for CCNA soon , would you give me the address of some usefull sites Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=48082&t=47923 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA Exam [7:47925]
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Re: CCNA Exam [7:47925]
www.HowToPostOnlyOnce.com ""Joupin"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi all > > Im going to sit for CCNA soon , > would you give me the address of some usefull sites Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=47933&t=47925 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna/ccda study group [7:47168]
Try the Atlanta Cisco users group. They have study sessions for CCNA candidates that meet at a local training center. Go to: http://www.internetworkexperts.net/acsg.htm Good luck! Paul Borghese juan lenoir wrote: > > hello.. ...i live in atlanta and am looking for a ccna/ccda > study group, is > there anyone that can push me in the right > direction..juan > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=47173&t=47168 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Pass Mark? [7:46271]
Cisco no longer publishes this information because it changes so frequently. You won't know until you actually sit for the exam. Shawn K. > -Original Message- > From: Simon King [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCNA Pass Mark? [7:46271] > > Easy one! Does anyone know what the pass mark is for the new CCNA 640-607? > I'm sure that I'll pass, but would feel better to know what I'm aiming > for! > > > Thanks > > Simon King Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=46306&t=46271 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA Pass Mark? [7:46271]
You should aim for 1000. Why not do the best you can and not worry about the scoring? ""Simon King"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Easy one! Does anyone know what the pass mark is for the new CCNA 640-607? > I'm sure that I'll pass, but would feel better to know what I'm aiming for! > > > Thanks > > Simon King Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=46279&t=46271 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA level IPX question, proper phrasing [7:45138]
It win2K friendly.. in fact it's being developed on a Win2K box :) I will check the current package since I reloaded it late yesterday with some edits. MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=45279&t=45138 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA level IPX question, proper phrasing [7:45138]
I tried to install the practice test, but no dice so far. I don't suppose it's win2k friendly? In the meantime, would you mind sharing with us the wording of the question? I think it's fair to require someone to know the significance of the optional mac address after the IPX routing command, but depending on how you worded the question (and how the explanation of the correct answer is worded) you may be getting ready to frustrate the h3ll out of anyone who takes it. > -Original Message- > From: Mike Sweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CCNA level IPX question, proper phrasing [7:45138] > > > So far I'm running about 3 to 1 in favor of the question as > it is. Both > sides have made interesting arguments in their favor. But I'm > a bit biased :) > > Logan, I had not thought of the IPX pinging, good call on that. > > MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=45269&t=45138 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA level IPX question, proper phrasing [7:45138]
At 09:39 AM 5/27/02, Mike Sweeney wrote: >I have a IPX question in my CCNA practice test beta and I've had some mixed >feedback on it. The questions asks what is the command to enable IPX routing >on a router and gives a MAC address as part of the question. The question is >a *fill in the blank* type. The answer I have is: > >ipx routing If you ask for a MAC address why is the answer ipx routing? It should be ipx routing followed by whatever MAC address you specified. If you're trying to get them to say that the command is still ipx routing even when you want to specify the MAC address, then that is just too tricky. >Is making the MAC a requirement of the answer a *fair* use of the command? I >thought so even though IPX routing will automaticaly assign the node >address. I felt inclusion of the MAC into the question was a clue that it >needed to specified. But you don't expect it to be specified if the answer is just ipx routing. >Is this too much to ask of a budding CCNA? The concept isn't too much, but the trickiness is. Priscilla >PS- for those who would want to look at the entire beta, it's 60 questions >at this point and a free download.. as long as you use the feedback form to >give me yes, no, it sucks etc..etc.. :) I have managed to get some good >feedback so far and will always take more. > >www.packetattack.com/tutorials.html > >Thanks > >MikeS Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=45259&t=45138 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA level IPX question, proper phrasing [7:45138]
So far I'm running about 3 to 1 in favor of the question as it is. Both sides have made interesting arguments in their favor. But I'm a bit biased :) Logan, I had not thought of the IPX pinging, good call on that. MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=45248&t=45138 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA level IPX question, proper phrasing [7:45138]
In my opinion that question is fair game. the optional MAC address that can be specified is used for interface that have no bia, such as serial and loopback interfaces. By default they "borrow" the MAC from a LAN interface, but you may want to specify your own in order to keep documentation and troubleshooting simple. For example, if I enable ipx on router #1 using the command 'ipx routing 1.1.1' then all I need to do to ping a serial interface on router 1 that's on network 1a is ping ipx 1a.1.1.1, which is a lot easier than having to look up and type out a mac address. I think that's a great question, and it's certainly a CCNA-level question. Hal Logan CCAI, CCDP, CCNP+Voice Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing & Engineering Technology Manatee Community College > -Original Message- > From: Mike Sweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 9:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCNA level IPX question, proper phrasing [7:45138] > > > I have a IPX question in my CCNA practice test beta and I've > had some mixed > feedback on it. The questions asks what is the command to > enable IPX routing > on a router and gives a MAC address as part of the question. > The question is > a *fill in the blank* type. The answer I have is: > > ipx routing > > Is making the MAC a requirement of the answer a *fair* use of > the command? I > thought so even though IPX routing will automaticaly assign the node > address. I felt inclusion of the MAC into the question was a > clue that it > needed to specified. Is this too much to ask of a budding CCNA? > > PS- for those who would want to look at the entire beta, > it's 60 questions > at this point and a free download.. as long as you use the > feedback form to > give me yes, no, it sucks etc..etc.. :) I have managed to > get some good > feedback so far and will always take more. > > www.packetattack.com/tutorials.html > > Thanks > > MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=45245&t=45138 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA level IPX question, proper phrasing [7:45138]
Another thing to think about: What IPX issues might arise if the router only has serial interfaces? At 12:30 PM -0400 5/27/02, Chuck wrote: >Fair? Why would you think it is not "fair? > >Consider that the command you give is straightforward and will indeed enable >IPX routing. Now then, do you know what happens as a result of that command? >Have you thought of this in terms of how an IPX network is numbered, and >what an important and significant component of that numbering involves? > >Having done so, can you think of any reasons you might want to influence >that component? > >Using your command ( which works fine ), if you were to do a "show IPX >interface" what would you find? > >If you were to influence the MAC in some manner, and then were to do a "show >IPX interface", now what would you find? > >Would one or the other be more useful in certain situations, say if you were >trying to troubleshoot IPX routing or IPX connectivity? > >Fair? > >""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >> I have a IPX question in my CCNA practice test beta and I've had some >mixed >> feedback on it. The questions asks what is the command to enable IPX >routing >> on a router and gives a MAC address as part of the question. The question >is >> a *fill in the blank* type. The answer I have is: >> >> ipx routing >> >> Is making the MAC a requirement of the answer a *fair* use of the command? >I >> thought so even though IPX routing will automaticaly assign the node >> address. I felt inclusion of the MAC into the question was a clue that it >> needed to specified. Is this too much to ask of a budding CCNA? >> >> PS- for those who would want to look at the entire beta, it's 60 >questions >> at this point and a free download.. as long as you use the feedback form >to >> give me yes, no, it sucks etc..etc.. :) I have managed to get some good >> feedback so far and will always take more. >> >> www.packetattack.com/tutorials.html >> >> Thanks >> >> MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=45164&t=45138 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA level IPX question, proper phrasing [7:45138]
Fair? Why would you think it is not "fair? Consider that the command you give is straightforward and will indeed enable IPX routing. Now then, do you know what happens as a result of that command? Have you thought of this in terms of how an IPX network is numbered, and what an important and significant component of that numbering involves? Having done so, can you think of any reasons you might want to influence that component? Using your command ( which works fine ), if you were to do a "show IPX interface" what would you find? If you were to influence the MAC in some manner, and then were to do a "show IPX interface", now what would you find? Would one or the other be more useful in certain situations, say if you were trying to troubleshoot IPX routing or IPX connectivity? Fair? ""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I have a IPX question in my CCNA practice test beta and I've had some mixed > feedback on it. The questions asks what is the command to enable IPX routing > on a router and gives a MAC address as part of the question. The question is > a *fill in the blank* type. The answer I have is: > > ipx routing > > Is making the MAC a requirement of the answer a *fair* use of the command? I > thought so even though IPX routing will automaticaly assign the node > address. I felt inclusion of the MAC into the question was a clue that it > needed to specified. Is this too much to ask of a budding CCNA? > > PS- for those who would want to look at the entire beta, it's 60 questions > at this point and a free download.. as long as you use the feedback form to > give me yes, no, it sucks etc..etc.. :) I have managed to get some good > feedback so far and will always take more. > > www.packetattack.com/tutorials.html > > Thanks > > MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=45143&t=45138 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA 640-607 [7:44226]
I just took CCNA 640-607. The simulator is kind of like the Sybex CCNA Virtual Lab e-trainer / simulator. Pretty straight forward. I agree, hands-on would help. Sam Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=44296&t=44226 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA 640-607 [7:44226]
Hi Ron, Yes, exactly. It's more or less the same except for the two router simulator questions - make sure to grab some hands-on practice. :) Cheers, Ron --- Ron Steedman CCNP, CCNA, MCP, BS Computer Science Free CCNA Practice Tests, Study Guides, & Message Boards! http://www.congonetworking.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=44289&t=44226 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Authors needed [7:4550]
I am a trainer/developer for a company. I would love to help author a chapter. I am just now read my 250 emails. If it is not too late please email me. Currently, I have developed in-house company course books on single area OSPF, EIGRP, route redistribution, Cisco Router Show Commands, and more. Thanks in advance Ophelia Livingston, CCNP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of CiscoB Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 6:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA Authors needed [3:4550] I'm looking for a few people that would be interested in authoring a chapter for a CCNA book Network Learning Inc. is going to publish (for the new 640-607 test). If you are interested, please email me, [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=43282&t=4550 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA recommendation [7:42930]
A good starting point would be to read the Sybex CCNA Certification book by Todd Lammle. In my opinion, the Sybex books are good for beginners because they explain things in an easy to understand manner. The Cisco Press books are more detailed. Also, it's essential to get some hands-on experience with actual routers and switches. If these aren't available or aren't within his budget, pick up an inexpensive router and switch simulation program. Not as good as the actual equipment, but better than nothing at all. Shawn K. > -Original Message- > From: Tarek Sabry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCNA recommendation [7:42930] > > Folks > > A friend of mine asked me to advice him on CCNA guidance. He is an > engineer > manager but wants to shift gears into networking. What's a good starting > point? I couldn't help him because as far as I remember I didn't have to > prepare much for it. I was already been in the field for sometime when I > took it. > > Thanks for your help > Tarek Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=43076&t=42930 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA recommendation [7:42930]
cisco's website http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccna.html >>> "Tarek Sabry" 04/30/02 07:14PM >>> Folks A friend of mine asked me to advice him on CCNA guidance. He is an engineer manager but wants to shift gears into networking. What's a good starting point? I couldn't help him because as far as I remember I didn't have to prepare much for it. I was already been in the field for sometime when I took it. Thanks for your help Tarek Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=42964&t=42930 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA Authors needed [7:4550]
Hi , I m interested to participate - Original Message - From: ""CiscoB"" Newsgroups: groupstudy.jobs Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: CCNA Authors needed [3:4550] > I'm looking for a few people that would be interested in authoring a chapter > for a CCNA book Network Learning Inc. is going to publish (for the new > 640-607 test). If you are interested, please email me, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > thanks, > -Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=42786&t=4550 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
Wow Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39757&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
I am not sure why this debate keeps popping up here, but we all must realize that everybody is different. If a guy in Texas owns a very expensive cowboy hat and decides to wear it Saturday night, some Dixie chicks might find him very attractive, while some girls visiting from Australia would probably find him a bit ridiculous. Some people has been working very hard for their titles, and I can understand when they want to show other people what they have achieved. A more important thing could be that many IT recruiters and IT managers knows what CCNA is, but they have never heard of CCNP nor CCIE. It's sad when you have the higher title, but you can't really change that, so a thing you can do is to put all your titles on, so you can hope they at least recognize one of them. Again, it's very individual and where you're from on the globe is probably also a matter. Some women still present themselves as Mrs. Their-Husbands-Name, which I find ridiculous, but if they like it, then I won't go into a deeper discussion about it. So, could we please just live with what others put after their name (unless it's insulting) and get on with our list. My 0010 cents. Ole ~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~ Need a Job? http://www.OleDrews.com/job ~ -Original Message- From: Matthew Meiers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] I think it all comes back to Freud and is theory on mans envy about his equipment. "Mine's bigger than yours!" I think it is all a bit rediculous. Enough said -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ladrach, Daniel E. Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] Why do people even care? I thought this group study was to ask technical questions! However, we are debating what goes on an e-mail signature. Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom -Original Message- From: geek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] I also agree that it belongs on a resume but listing everything you've accomplished in an email (or NG) sig is a bit much. We should always be proud of our accomplishments but lets try not to get hung up on titles. -Joe- ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, LMNOP, QRST (written), nose picker, butt picker and picker flicker :^) ""John Faubion"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification > in your > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one > listed? I mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, > you should only list CCNP in your title block, right? > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, > CCNP in their title. > > Thanks, > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39526&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
I think it all comes back to Freud and is theory on mans envy about his equipment. "Mine's bigger than yours!" I think it is all a bit rediculous. Enough said -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ladrach, Daniel E. Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] Why do people even care? I thought this group study was to ask technical questions! However, we are debating what goes on an e-mail signature. Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom -Original Message- From: geek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] I also agree that it belongs on a resume but listing everything you've accomplished in an email (or NG) sig is a bit much. We should always be proud of our accomplishments but lets try not to get hung up on titles. -Joe- ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, LMNOP, QRST (written), nose picker, butt picker and picker flicker :^) ""John Faubion"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification > in your > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one > listed? I mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, > you should only list CCNP in your title block, right? > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, > CCNP in their title. > > Thanks, > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39523&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
Why do people even care? I thought this group study was to ask technical questions! However, we are debating what goes on an e-mail signature. Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom -Original Message- From: geek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] I also agree that it belongs on a resume but listing everything you've accomplished in an email (or NG) sig is a bit much. We should always be proud of our accomplishments but lets try not to get hung up on titles. -Joe- ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, LMNOP, QRST (written), nose picker, butt picker and picker flicker :^) ""John Faubion"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in your > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I > mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only > list CCNP in your title block, right? > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, > CCNP in their title. > > Thanks, > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39520&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
Thanks, i needed a laugh today. Ko "Kazan, Naim" wrote: > That is funny dude. Pick a winner for me:)- > > -Original Message- > From: geek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] > > I also agree that it belongs on a resume but listing everything you've > accomplished in an email (or NG) sig is a bit much. > > We should always be proud of our accomplishments but lets try not to get > hung up on titles. > > -Joe- > ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, LMNOP, QRST (written), nose picker, butt picker and > picker flicker :^) > > ""John Faubion"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in > your > > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I > > mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only > > list CCNP in your title block, right? > > > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show > CCNA, > > CCNP in their title. > > > > Thanks, > > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39479&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
That is funny dude. Pick a winner for me:)- -Original Message- From: geek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] I also agree that it belongs on a resume but listing everything you've accomplished in an email (or NG) sig is a bit much. We should always be proud of our accomplishments but lets try not to get hung up on titles. -Joe- ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, LMNOP, QRST (written), nose picker, butt picker and picker flicker :^) ""John Faubion"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in your > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I > mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only > list CCNP in your title block, right? > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, > CCNP in their title. > > Thanks, > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39476&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
When I get my CCNP, I am going to put it on my license plate of my car. I hear chicks really dig it. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39471&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
I also agree that it belongs on a resume but listing everything you've accomplished in an email (or NG) sig is a bit much. We should always be proud of our accomplishments but lets try not to get hung up on titles. -Joe- ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, LMNOP, QRST (written), nose picker, butt picker and picker flicker :^) ""John Faubion"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in your > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I > mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only > list CCNP in your title block, right? > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, > CCNP in their title. > > Thanks, > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39469&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
I was really only referring to their use in email. I definitely understand placing them all in a resume along with the dates attained and so forth. John Faubion, CCNP - Original Message - From: "Steven A. Ridder" To: Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] > That's what I thought, but someone came up with a good examples as to why to > list them all. A liot of HR people aren't technically proficient, so if > they have a job requirement that lists a CCNA CCNP or other cert, and you > just list your CCNP, then the HR rep might not understand that the CCNP > superceeds the CCNA and may pass you over for a job. I find it best to just > list them all on a res, and just list the highest when speaking to a tech. > > -- > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > Get in my head: > http://sar.dynu.com > > > ""John Faubion"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in > your > > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I > > mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only > > list CCNP in your title block, right? > > > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show > CCNA, > > CCNP in their title. > > > > Thanks, > > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39463&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
I fully agree with you. My personal opinion is that one validates one's credibility in an email north of the name, not south. pete At 12:44 PM 3/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list > > that show CCNA, CCNP in their title. > >I list them all, along with the acquisition dates, on my resume. As Steven >mentioned, HR screening might be an issue. > >The only reason to put such things in an e-mail (or a book jacket) is for >vanity, IMO. I work with a number of Ph.d's and they don't walk around >calling themselves "doctor." Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39445&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
I would recommend listing all current certs. somewhere in body of the Resume. This opinion is primarily due to the resume scanning programs that are used by large corps. These programs are very similar to technology used by web bots they index key search criteria. For an example of winning resume formats go to http://www.career-resumes.com/ there are more resources listed www.nationjob.com . -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Faubion Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in your title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only list CCNP in your title block, right? The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, CCNP in their title. Thanks, John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39443&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
> The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list > that show CCNA, CCNP in their title. I list them all, along with the acquisition dates, on my resume. As Steven mentioned, HR screening might be an issue. The only reason to put such things in an e-mail (or a book jacket) is for vanity, IMO. I work with a number of Ph.d's and they don't walk around calling themselves "doctor." Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39440&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
That's what I thought, but someone came up with a good examples as to why to list them all. A liot of HR people aren't technically proficient, so if they have a job requirement that lists a CCNA CCNP or other cert, and you just list your CCNP, then the HR rep might not understand that the CCNP superceeds the CCNA and may pass you over for a job. I find it best to just list them all on a res, and just list the highest when speaking to a tech. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Get in my head: http://sar.dynu.com ""John Faubion"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in your > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I > mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only > list CCNP in your title block, right? > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, > CCNP in their title. > > Thanks, > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39439&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA (B) [7:37659]
this is will be more great ... about me I have lack of this technology specially about fiber optic cables. Ismail Al-shelh -Original Message- From: Andy Barkl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 6:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA (B) [7:37659] Has anyone heard of CCNA (B)? Supposedly they will be updating the CCNA exam to include more cabling technologies? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37784&t=37659 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA [7:37473]
I have taken tests at both. A number of test centers host both Prometric and Vue. The one I goto always stamps my test with the Prometric seal even if I took the test from Vue. (Hard to get good help!!) I find the Vue easier to deal with than Prometric. I have the good fortune of having a test center that is open on Saturday's for testing. "Through Complexity there is Simplicity, Through Simplicity there is Complexity" David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, CIW Associate, A+, 3Wizard ""Kazan, Naim"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I am looking to take the exam soon. Do you guys prefer Prometric over Vue > testing center or does it matter. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dennis Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCIE program will be dropping token ring! [7:37422] > > > the question should be : > > What are they replacing it with > > ""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I'm in a meeting with the CCIE program manager and they will be removing > > Token-ring soon! > > > > -- > > > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > > > > > > ""Scott H."" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Not that bad. A bunch of dates open in March and April in San Jose--if > > you > > > can't do that, you are screwed until August. The one thing that I have > > > noticed is that when people get within their 28 day window, they drop > > their > > > date. This opens up dates for the more serious contenders. > > > > > > Best of luck! > > > Scott > > > > > > ""AMR"" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > What's the wait time like nowadays? > > > > > > > > -A Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37575&t=37473 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA [7:37473]
FYI, www.2test.com is Prometric. -dlb ""Chris Tucker"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > i use www.2test.com > ""Kazan, Naim"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I am looking to take the exam soon. Do you guys prefer Prometric over Vue > > testing center or does it matter. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dennis Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:42 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CCIE program will be dropping token ring! [7:37422] > > > > > > the question should be : > > > > What are they replacing it with > > > > ""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > I'm in a meeting with the CCIE program manager and they will be removing > > > Token-ring soon! > > > > > > -- > > > > > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > > > > > > > > > ""Scott H."" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Not that bad. A bunch of dates open in March and April in San > Jose--if > > > you > > > > can't do that, you are screwed until August. The one thing that I > have > > > > noticed is that when people get within their 28 day window, they drop > > > their > > > > date. This opens up dates for the more serious contenders. > > > > > > > > Best of luck! > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > ""AMR"" wrote in message > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > What's the wait time like nowadays? > > > > > > > > > > -A Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37573&t=37473 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA [7:37473]
Most testing-centers prefer Vue Kazan, Naim wrote: >I am looking to take the exam soon. Do you guys prefer Prometric over Vue >testing center or does it matter. > > > >-Original Message- >From: Dennis Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:42 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: CCIE program will be dropping token ring! [7:37422] > > >the question should be : > >What are they replacing it with > >""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >>I'm in a meeting with the CCIE program manager and they will be removing >>Token-ring soon! >> >>-- >> >>RFC 1149 Compliant. >> >> >>""Scott H."" wrote in message >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >> >>>Not that bad. A bunch of dates open in March and April in San Jose--if >>> >>you >> >>>can't do that, you are screwed until August. The one thing that I have >>>noticed is that when people get within their 28 day window, they drop >>> >>their >> >>>date. This opens up dates for the more serious contenders. >>> >>>Best of luck! >>>Scott >>> >>>""AMR"" wrote in message >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >>> What's the wait time like nowadays? -A Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37552&t=37473 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA [7:37473]
Doesn't matter. Just find a testing center that gives you some privacy when you take the exam (like dividers between the computers). Also, make sure the testing area doesn't have any distractions (like people walking into the testing area all the time, people talking outside the testing area, etc.) Usually a quick visit or call to the testing center will let you know whether or not you want to test there. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Kazan, Naim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA [7:37473] I am looking to take the exam soon. Do you guys prefer Prometric over Vue testing center or does it matter. -Original Message- From: Dennis Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE program will be dropping token ring! [7:37422] the question should be : What are they replacing it with ""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'm in a meeting with the CCIE program manager and they will be > removing Token-ring soon! > > -- > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > > > ""Scott H."" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Not that bad. A bunch of dates open in March and April in San > > Jose--if > you > > can't do that, you are screwed until August. The one thing that I > > have noticed is that when people get within their 28 day window, > > they drop > their > > date. This opens up dates for the more serious contenders. > > > > Best of luck! > > Scott > > > > ""AMR"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > What's the wait time like nowadays? > > > > > > -A Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37493&t=37473 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA [7:37473]
i use www.2test.com ""Kazan, Naim"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I am looking to take the exam soon. Do you guys prefer Prometric over Vue > testing center or does it matter. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dennis Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCIE program will be dropping token ring! [7:37422] > > > the question should be : > > What are they replacing it with > > ""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I'm in a meeting with the CCIE program manager and they will be removing > > Token-ring soon! > > > > -- > > > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > > > > > > ""Scott H."" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Not that bad. A bunch of dates open in March and April in San Jose--if > > you > > > can't do that, you are screwed until August. The one thing that I have > > > noticed is that when people get within their 28 day window, they drop > > their > > > date. This opens up dates for the more serious contenders. > > > > > > Best of luck! > > > Scott > > > > > > ""AMR"" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > What's the wait time like nowadays? > > > > > > > > -A Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37484&t=37473 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Advice [7:32218]
I would say that there are two areas to concentrate most on the CCNA test. 1) OSI Model- need to know this backwards and forwards. What are the layers, what protocols work at each layer, how packets are formed, etc. 2) Subnetting- know this not only for the test but because if you are in the field you will get asked a subnetting question and you better know the answer. There were a lot of subnetting questions on the CCNA exam. In addition, there were a few access-list, bridging/switching, configuration questions. Know your ISDN, they still test that as well. Out of 60 questions I would say that 20 will have to do with OSI and subnetting. Author: Kazan, Naim () Date: 01-16-02 16:49 what area of the CCNA should I concentrate on the most? Can anyone tell me what subjects will gear me toward passing the test. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=32308&t=32218 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA Advice [7:32218]
Do add the ISDN , IPX routing , VLAN and the IOS commands to the list . Apart from the Cisco Press books , some of the other books which I had refered to were the books of Todd Lamelle and Interconnections by Radia Pearlman . The test is simple overall , but take care of the high passing mark. Navin Parwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Kaminski, Shawn G"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The CCNA Blueprint on the Cisco website is first place to look. You should > definitely know the following: > > -OSI Reference Model > -Subnetting > -Switching Modes (Cut-Through, Store and Forward, Fragment Free) > -RIP and IGRP > -Basic commands and configuration > -Bridging and LAN segmentation > -WAN Protocols > -Basic Access Lists > -If possible, get some hands-on experience > > This is just stuff that I can remember being covered on the exam (that was a > long time ago though). Like I said earlier, know the stuff from the CCNA > Blueprint on the Cisco website and you will be fine. Cisco Press books seem > to be the best but the Sybex book is pretty good for the CCNA. > > Shawn K. > > > -Original Message- > From: Kazan, Naim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCNA Advice [7:32218] > > > what area of the CCNA should I concentrate on the most? Can anyone tell me > what subjects will gear me toward passing the test. > > -Original Message- > From: Eric Waguespack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: **stupid router tricks [7:32213] > > > over the years, of working on cisco routers & > lurking in this group, I have learned a few 'cool' > tricks you can do with cisco routers, has anyone seen > a compiled list of "stupid router tricks" ? > > > e.g. > > -making your router a dhcp server > > -making your router a tftp server > > -back to back frame relay (no dedicated frame-relay > switch) > > -ip over aux port > > -login without a password (conf t - line vty 0 4 - > privilege level 15) > > here is where my memory fails me, can you guys think > of anymore? > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=32275&t=32218 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Advice [7:32218]
The CCNA Blueprint on the Cisco website is first place to look. You should definitely know the following: -OSI Reference Model -Subnetting -Switching Modes (Cut-Through, Store and Forward, Fragment Free) -RIP and IGRP -Basic commands and configuration -Bridging and LAN segmentation -WAN Protocols -Basic Access Lists -If possible, get some hands-on experience This is just stuff that I can remember being covered on the exam (that was a long time ago though). Like I said earlier, know the stuff from the CCNA Blueprint on the Cisco website and you will be fine. Cisco Press books seem to be the best but the Sybex book is pretty good for the CCNA. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Kazan, Naim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA Advice [7:32218] what area of the CCNA should I concentrate on the most? Can anyone tell me what subjects will gear me toward passing the test. -Original Message- From: Eric Waguespack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: **stupid router tricks [7:32213] over the years, of working on cisco routers & lurking in this group, I have learned a few 'cool' tricks you can do with cisco routers, has anyone seen a compiled list of "stupid router tricks" ? e.g. -making your router a dhcp server -making your router a tftp server -back to back frame relay (no dedicated frame-relay switch) -ip over aux port -login without a password (conf t - line vty 0 4 - privilege level 15) here is where my memory fails me, can you guys think of anymore? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=32233&t=32218 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA tutorial in beta for Cisco 2900 configura [7:30970]
Njamba Ti Ikere wrote: > > Hey Dude, > Congrats for work well done ,I chanced on your tutorials > yesterday and they > were very good. > However my only beef is that when you open a web page from > within your site, > you cannot maximize or minimize the browser screen. > Otherwise the rest is very good and please do'nt deem me > persnickety ; i > just felt constricted and all. > Again thanks for a worthy resource. > > Actually, they are resizable by the code.. you should be able to resize the window but no tool bar. BUT- I think I have a code issue somewhere else since you are correct. Dont you just love javascript? They do not resize properly even though the indicator is there for the resize. Not being a HTML geek, this might take a while to track down. ::sigh:: MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=31019&t=30970 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA tutorial in beta for Cisco 2900 configuration [7:30970]
Hey Dude, Congrats for work well done ,I chanced on your tutorials yesterday and they were very good. However my only beef is that when you open a web page from within your site, you cannot maximize or minimize the browser screen. Otherwise the rest is very good and please do'nt deem me persnickety ; i just felt constricted and all. Again thanks for a worthy resource. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30970&t=30970 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA tutorial in beta for Cisco 2900 configuration [7:30907]
On May 23, 6:49am, "Mike Sweeney" wrote: } } I just posted the first version at a new tutorial I'm working for } configuring the Cisco 2900 ethernet switch. Drop by and take a look. This is } } Anything else? } } http://www.packetattack.com/tutorials.html Just a comment on the web page. Some of the dark green print is hard to read since it doesn't contrast enough with the black background. I have this to be a mistake made by many beginning webpage designers that don't have formal design training and haven't been taught colour theory. Just remember "contrast, contrast, contrast". In other words don't put dark print on a dark background or light print on a light background. You also have to remember that colours won't appear the same on systems, so you have to have quite a bit of contrast. }-- End of excerpt from "Mike Sweeney" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30907&t=30907 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna exam info [7:30657]
Try Wendel Odom's CCNA Exam Certification Guide. Please try to config a router a few times if you haven't yet before you take the CCNA. It will make your knowledge more concrete. For practice tests, try Boson.com, examcram.com, etc. Cisco even has some tests that have the real questions on them (they look real to me). I'm not afraid to show someone how to cheat on a test, as I belive the net is open and exists to share information, for good or bad, and even if you saw all the tasks on a CCIE lab, you're not going to pass without knowing all your stuff. There used to be braindumps on http://leuthard.ch/mcse/640-407.shtml but they were 3 years old by now. I beleive you can try the discussion boards on cramsession.com for more braindumps on all the test up to the CCIE lab. I have even seen CCIE lab braindumps from as recently as Dec. 28, 2001. ""eli"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hey group- > > I am interesting in taking the CCNA exam . I need web site information or > links witch give example tests , Brain dumps , > study guides , lab practices & more ... > > thank you all > > HAPPY NEW YEAR > > Eli Aviv Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30661&t=30657 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna exam info [7:30657]
If its braindumps your after your in the wrong place. For study guides try www.certificationzone.com. The archives on groupstudy.com will give you all the info you need !!! Phil. --- eli wrote: > Hey group- > > I am interesting in taking the CCNA exam . I need > web site information or > links witch give example tests , Brain dumps , > study guides , lab practices & more ... > > thank you all > > HAPPY NEW YEAR > > Eli Aviv [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30660&t=30657 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA tutorial in beta for Cisco 2900 configura [7:30562]
I had started the slides for the VLANs.. they are in progress.. I was also thinking of a few slides of spanning tree for getting stats and blocked ports.. anything else I should include? MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30607&t=30562 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA tutorial in beta for Cisco 2900 configura [7:30562]
That was a nice tutorial. Thank you very much. Good job! Randy Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30588&t=30562 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA tutorial in beta for Cisco 2900 configuration [7:30587]
Outstanding job Mike! Stefan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA tutorial in beta for Cisco 2900 configuration [7:30543] I just posted the first version at a new tutorial I'm working for configuring the Cisco 2900 ethernet switch. Drop by and take a look. This is a "how do I do ??? type of tutorial. All comments are welcome. Include suggestions for other details that might be useful... I plan to add over the next few weeks the following trunking etherchannel logging Anything else? http://www.packetattack.com/tutorials.html MikeS PS- yes I know that some will have great fun with this at my expense.. but what is life without some whimsey added ( Thanks Howard for reminding me of a fun word :) ) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30587&t=30587 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA tutorial in beta for Cisco 2900 configuration [7:30562]
Nice! And it's very nice of you to make it available for free. ;-) Will you cover VLAN configuration? Thanks Priscilla At 12:14 PM 12/31/01, you wrote: >I just posted the first version at a new tutorial I'm working for >configuring the Cisco 2900 ethernet switch. Drop by and take a look. This is >a "how do I do ??? type of tutorial. All comments are welcome. Include >suggestions for other details that might be useful... I plan to add over the >next few weeks the following > >trunking >etherchannel >logging > > >Anything else? > >http://www.packetattack.com/tutorials.html > > >MikeS > >PS- yes I know that some will have great fun with this at my expense.. but >what is life without some whimsey added ( Thanks Howard for reminding me of >a fun word :) ) Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30562&t=30562 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA passed, target CCNP. +AFs-7:27232+AF0- [7:27300]
Good idea. I'm in Hanoi, and would be very nice if we can exchange something about CCNP - Original Message - From: Huan PHAM To: cisco+AEA-groupstudy.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 11:12 AM Subject: RE: CCNA passed, target CCNP. +AFs-7:27232+AF0- GoalHungry wrote: I will post +AD4- my question about BSCN soon. +AD4- By the way, I'd like to set up a CCNP study group in Ha Noi. +AD4- My Email Add is midnightman13+AEA-yahoo.com. Congrats, I am about to sit for BSCN. I am from Hanoi too, so ... happy to discuss your question (if I can). 7232 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to abuse+AEA-groupstudy.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=27300&t=27300 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA passed, target CCNP. [7:27232]
GoalHungry wrote: I will post > my question about BSCN soon. > By the way, I'd like to set up a CCNP study group in Ha Noi. > My Email Add is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Congrats, I am about to sit for BSCN. I am from Hanoi too, so ... happy to discuss your question (if I can). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=27292&t=27232 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA-CCNP-CCIE- [7:26854]
When you email him, it just replies "READ A BOOK!", Just kidding :) ""Tom Harrison"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > If you require any help in CCNA CCNP or CCIE mail me [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26904&t=26854 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA-CCNP-CCIE- [7:26854]
What kind of help can you provide? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26869&t=26854 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA 1.0 and CCNP 2.0 [7:26606]
> I have a question here, I got my CCNA 1.0 before and I completed the > CCNP 2.0 today. Do I need to re-exam CCNA 2.0?? > FYI, you can monitor your cert. progress and the expiration date for each certification you earned through http://www.galton.com/~cisco. HTH Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26629&t=26606 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA 1.0 and CCNP 2.0 [7:26606]
No, passing any higher level exam recertifies you at the lower level as well. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy Juan Blanco wrote: > Dear firends, > I have a question here, I got my CCNA 1.0 before and I completed the > CCNP 2.0 today. Do I need to re-exam CCNA 2.0?? > > Thanks. > > JB Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26615&t=26606 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA 1.0 and CCNP 2.0 [7:26606]
No Stefan# >Dear firends, >I have a question here, I got my CCNA 1.0 before and I completed the >CCNP 2.0 today. Do I need to re-exam CCNA 2.0?? >Thanks. >JB Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26611&t=26606 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna wan switching [7:19366]
CCNA Wan Quick start by cisco press has all that you need for the exam if you deal with stratacoms at work. Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19369&t=19366 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna question [7:15958]
In the version of the BCMSN course I took Cisco state that the emerging campus network has moved away from the 80% local, 20% cross networks model to the 20% local 80% on other networks. As Chuck commented Cisco expect you to give the Cisco-approved answer. Having said that your test will be multiple choice so I wouldn't lose too much sleep on this. It is like the question asking what routing protocol is suitable for a 'medium sized' network. I think that it's absolute nonsense on its own but the principles are sound. -Jim ""Chuck Larrieu"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local > and 30 non-local? > > I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue > design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp > 26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture > wow! ), pages 35 and 575. > > Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that > Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real > world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. > > Chuck > > > > -Original Message- > From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM > To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > > The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is > 70/30. ;-) > HTH > Albert > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Chuck Larrieu > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > > much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the > moderator's queue (braindump is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest > question and that you were entitled to an answer. > > 80/20 or 70/30 what? > > are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be > local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? > > I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I > believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. > Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all > have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages > by the wayside. > > to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. > I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. > > Chuck > > Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) > McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) > Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Manjunath Shivaramaiah > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: ccna question [7:15958] > > > hi > i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in > braindumps and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this > regard... > I'm taking ccna exam shortly > > thanks > > manjunath.s [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18857&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572]
Well, your configuration seem to miss something. Make sure that from one router, you can ping the IP address of the serial port of the other router. This will make sure that your frame-relay setting is working. If you cannot ping the serial of the other router, make sure you put "no keepalive" on the serial interface of each router. Assign DLCI number to the serial port and map the PVC using "frame-relay map..." RIPv1 (or RIP) does not support VLSM (variable length subnet mask), which is classless address. When you put: Router RIP network 192.168.0.0 It will automatically summarize the network to be 192.168.0.0 / 24, which none of your networks belongs to. If you run latest IOS, you can use RIPv2, which allows you to turn off the Auto-Summary. To enable RIP version 2, configure both routers as follow: Router RIP version 2 network 192.168.0.0 no auto-summary Good luck! ""xie rootstock"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > sorry, my last posting is wrong, you should set network 192.168.100.0, not > network 192.168.0.0 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18755&t=18572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572]
sorry, my last posting is wrong, you should set network 192.168.100.0, not network 192.168.0.0 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18659&t=18572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572]
check you rip, is there a command passive-interface is used?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have 2 2501 routers setup as follows: > > RouterA eth0 with 192.168.254.1/24 > RouterA serial 0 with 192.168.100/24 > setup as DTE, no shutdown, router rip > network 192.168.0.0 > > RouterB eth0 with 192.168.50.1/24 > RouterB serial 0 with 192.168.100.11/24 > setup as DCE, clock rate 64000, no shutdown, router rip > network 192.168.0.0 > > My problem is it won't see any of the networks...do I have this > number setup > wrong? when I setup a static IP ROUTE..the networks work fine > and see each > other its just with RIP for some reason is unable to see the > other > networks...what am I doing wrong? > > thank you all > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18654&t=18572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572]
RIP is a classful protocol, and so assigns each network statement a mask based on the first octet of the statement. So 192.168.x.x is automatically a class C network since its first octet starts in the Class C range. Try putting each class C in the configuration with the network statement, 192.168.254.0, 192.168.100.0, and 192.168.50.0. The statement "network 192.168.0.0" says that only interfaces within the 192.168.0.1-254 range are participating in RIP. Hope this solves the problem. Guy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572] I have 2 2501 routers setup as follows: RouterA eth0 with 192.168.254.1/24 RouterA serial 0 with 192.168.100/24 setup as DTE, no shutdown, router rip network 192.168.0.0 RouterB eth0 with 192.168.50.1/24 RouterB serial 0 with 192.168.100.11/24 setup as DCE, clock rate 64000, no shutdown, router rip network 192.168.0.0 My problem is it won't see any of the networks...do I have this number setup wrong? when I setup a static IP ROUTE..the networks work fine and see each other its just with RIP for some reason is unable to see the other networks...what am I doing wrong? thank you all Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18575&t=18572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572]
You have to announce classfull networks in RIPv1 : for router A : router rip network 192.168.254.0 for router B : router rip network 192.168.50.0 if it doesn't work with this, try debug ip rip -- Stephane LITKOWSKI Student in a french computer science school EPITA Telecom & Network specialization CISCO Certified Network Associate EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] a icrit dans le message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I have 2 2501 routers setup as follows: > > RouterA eth0 with 192.168.254.1/24 > RouterA serial 0 with 192.168.100/24 > setup as DTE, no shutdown, router rip > network 192.168.0.0 > > RouterB eth0 with 192.168.50.1/24 > RouterB serial 0 with 192.168.100.11/24 > setup as DCE, clock rate 64000, no shutdown, router rip > network 192.168.0.0 > > My problem is it won't see any of the networks...do I have this number setup > wrong? when I setup a static IP ROUTE..the networks work fine and see each > other its just with RIP for some reason is unable to see the other > networks...what am I doing wrong? > > thank you all Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18574&t=18572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Bootcamp [7:17689]
Yes, there are still openings for the free ccna bootcamp. At this point enrollment is of 0 students! I need to have a full class to be able to rent the equipment/classroom. Unfortunately, I will have to cancel I don't get any students by the 10th of September, the date on which I must confirm the room/equipment rental. Please advise! Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: LaVillie Tate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:15 AM To: Pierre-Alex Subject: Re: CCNA Bootcamp [7:16958] Are there still any openings for the free ccna bootcamp? --- Pierre-Alex wrote: > In honor of my appointment as faculty, I am offering > a free boot camp to 16 > students on the 17 of September 2001. > > If you are interested please contact me. > > Pierre-Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17689&t=17689 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna companion question [7:17648]
Have you tried it ? what happens? By default the Cisco IOS rejects an attempt to configure an all zero's subnet as an invalid address/mask pair even if an ip classless pair even if a classless protocol is running -Original Message- From: Teresa Presutto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 August 2001 11:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ccna companion question [7:17648] "Tell a woman there are 300 billion stars in the universe and she'll believe you. Tell her a bench has wet paint on it and she'll have to touch to be sure": Ok for the ip subnet-zero concept, but I still do not understand the answer, this morning I'm more stupid than usual. The first anwer is correct. I know. "The first valid subnet would be 156.100.0.0-156.100.15.255 with a base address of 156.100.0.0. If a configure 156.100.11.37 255.255.240.0 without ip subnet-zero what does it happen? Thanks a million in advance, Teresa - Original Message - From: Christopher Supino To: Teresa Presutto ; Cisco Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: RE: ccna companion question [7:17648] The first answer would be correct, because it would require IP subnet-zero to be running. This command allows the router to use the zero subnet (subnet with a base address of 0.0) to be used as a valid subnet. In this example, you have 4 bits of subnetting, which allows for 16 sub-networks(theoretically if the .255 and .0 subnets are valid, but then a again, thats what we are discussing) with 4094 valid hosts per subnet. The first valid subnet would be 156.100.0.0-156.100.15.255 with a base address of 156.100.0.0. Some older network equipment doesn't allow for the use of the zero-subnet, as it is seen as a base(even though it isn't . 0s in the host=base address) or even stranger a brodcast(some older gear from other manufacturers used all 0s as a broadcast, rather than all 1s. Just remember, we are talking about a zero in the network portion, not the host portion. Hope this explanation helps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Teresa Presutto Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccna companion question [7:17648] CNNA Companion question (obviously I read the answer and I know the command , but I would like to know why...) Which of the following addresses would be require the use of ip subnet-zero command? 156.100.11.37 255.255.240.0 131.64.16.133 255.255.255.128 192.168.36.10 255.255.255.0 205.100.16.3 255.255.255.0 Ciao e grazie, Teresa Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17656&t=17648 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna companion question [7:17648]
"Tell a woman there are 300 billion stars in the universe and she'll believe you. Tell her a bench has wet paint on it and she'll have to touch to be sure": Ok for the ip subnet-zero concept, but I still do not understand the answer, this morning I'm more stupid than usual. The first anwer is correct. I know. "The first valid subnet would be 156.100.0.0-156.100.15.255 with a base address of 156.100.0.0. If a configure 156.100.11.37 255.255.240.0 without ip subnet-zero what does it happen? Thanks a million in advance, Teresa - Original Message - From: Christopher Supino To: Teresa Presutto ; Cisco Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: RE: ccna companion question [7:17648] The first answer would be correct, because it would require IP subnet-zero to be running. This command allows the router to use the zero subnet (subnet with a base address of 0.0) to be used as a valid subnet. In this example, you have 4 bits of subnetting, which allows for 16 sub-networks(theoretically if the .255 and .0 subnets are valid, but then a again, thats what we are discussing) with 4094 valid hosts per subnet. The first valid subnet would be 156.100.0.0-156.100.15.255 with a base address of 156.100.0.0. Some older network equipment doesn't allow for the use of the zero-subnet, as it is seen as a base(even though it isn't . 0s in the host=base address) or even stranger a brodcast(some older gear from other manufacturers used all 0s as a broadcast, rather than all 1s. Just remember, we are talking about a zero in the network portion, not the host portion. Hope this explanation helps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Teresa Presutto Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccna companion question [7:17648] CNNA Companion question (obviously I read the answer and I know the command , but I would like to know why...) Which of the following addresses would be require the use of ip subnet-zero command? 156.100.11.37 255.255.240.0 131.64.16.133 255.255.255.128 192.168.36.10 255.255.255.0 205.100.16.3 255.255.255.0 Ciao e grazie, Teresa Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17655&t=17648 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna companion question [7:17648]
The first answer would be correct, because it would require IP subnet-zero to be running. This command allows the router to use the zero subnet (subnet with a base address of 0.0) to be used as a valid subnet. In this example, you have 4 bits of subnetting, which allows for 16 sub-networks(theoretically if the .255 and .0 subnets are valid, but then a again, thats what we are discussing) with 4094 valid hosts per subnet. The first valid subnet would be 156.100.0.0-156.100.15.255 with a base address of 156.100.0.0. Some older network equipment doesn't allow for the use of the zero-subnet, as it is seen as a base(even though it isn't . 0s in the host=base address) or even stranger a brodcast(some older gear from other manufacturers used all 0s as a broadcast, rather than all 1s. Just remember, we are talking about a zero in the network portion, not the host portion. Hope this explanation helps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Teresa Presutto Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccna companion question [7:17648] CNNA Companion question (obviously I read the answer and I know the command , but I would like to know why...) Which of the following addresses would be require the use of ip subnet-zero command? 156.100.11.37 255.255.240.0 131.64.16.133 255.255.255.128 192.168.36.10 255.255.255.0 205.100.16.3 255.255.255.0 Ciao e grazie, Teresa Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17653&t=17648 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA exam [7:15284]
Try boson.com They have good tests and only cost 29.95 PA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Artashes Kalantarian Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA exam [7:15284] Hi All I am new to this newsgroup I am 14 and I am going to take the CCNA exam on the middle of this month. Can anybody suggest me tests that I can use for checking my knowledge? Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17157&t=15284 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA [7:15350] (and wondering about CCNP exams) [7:15350]
You're probably getting wiser. I passed the BCRAN yesterday it was a lot less difficult for me then the CCNA 1.0 exam I took two and a half years ago. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leigh Anne Chisholm Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNA [7:15350] (and wondering about CCNP exams) [7:15395] Yes, the CCNA 2.0 exam is difficult. And on that note... I wrote Routing 2.0 yesterday. I found the CCNA 1.0 and 2.0 exams to be a LOT more difficult than what I saw yesterday. I thought the old ACRC exam was quite difficult as well. Is it just me getting older and wiser or are the newer CCNP exams getting easier? -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA [7:15350] I look at it as a jack of all trades test. You need to know a little about a lot of areas. Not a ton of depth, but a wide range of potential topics. Plus the standard OSI pummeling. Brian "Sonic" Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Leffe Eriksson wrote: > Is it just me who find CCNA hard??? > Everywhere I read that MCP ( 70-210,70-215,70-217 and 70-219 ) is at the > same level ( from 1 to 5, CCNA and MCP score4s a 2 huh?? ) > > Just wanna have Your thoughts about this! > > Seriously Leffe - Made in Sweden!! > ___ > Visit http://www.visto.com. > Find out how companies are linking mobile users to the > enterprise with Visto. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17084&t=15350 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Bootcamp [7:16958]
BOOT CAMP 1 Cisco Router with inferfaces: fast-ethernet/isdn bri/2 serial (IOS 12.0) 1 Cisco 1912XL-EN ALL THE EQUIPEMENT IS CONNECTED TO: One ISDN Teltone simulator (to test isdn) The class-router (acting as a frame-relay switch) A core switch (2924XL-EN) -Original Message- From: Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:48 AM To: 'Pierre-Alex' Subject: RE: CCNA Bootcamp [7:16958] Hi, Please tell me the location and duration of this bootcamp. Also, waht materials are available for students to purchase for this training. Thanks. Elmer -Original Message- From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA Bootcamp [7:16958] In honor of my appointment as faculty, I am offering a free boot camp to 16 students on the 17 of September 2001. If you are interested please contact me. Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17070&t=16958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Bootcamp [7:16958]
Yes, that would be nice. Here are the details. Location is Fairfield, IA Duration is 5 Days You need to bring with you the CCNA preparation library (Cisco CCNA #640-507 Preparation Library -- Cisco Systems Inc., Stephen McQuerry) and $510 to cover equipment rental and room rental. (Yes the University is having me pay to use their stuff even though I am volunteering !!!) Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: EA Louie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:36 PM To: Pierre-Alex Subject: Re: CCNA Bootcamp [7:16958] wow, that's a generous offer! If I knew anyone who was working on their CCNA, may I send them your way? -e- - Original Message - From: "Pierre-Alex" To: Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:54 AM Subject: CCNA Bootcamp [7:16958] > In honor of my appointment as faculty, I am offering a free boot camp to 16 > students on the 17 of September 2001. > > If you are interested please contact me. > > Pierre-Alex _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17069&t=16958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna question [7:15958]
Don't forget "Marcus of Queensbury" rules T - Original Message - From: "Chuck Larrieu" To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 8:53 AM Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > next generation test questions: > > when designing a network, CCNAs should pay particular attention to > > a) the 80/20 rule > b) the 70/30 rule > c) the 50/50 rule > d) rule Britannia > > at what layer of the OSI model does the 70/30 rule operate? > > a) layer 1, because it relates to what bits are where on the wire > b) layer 2, because the bits are organized into frames, which use mac > addresses > c) layer 3, because the 70/30 rule refers to network layer design > d) layer 7, because a CCNA needs to apply his/her/its study to real world > situations > > the 70/30 rule is > > a) the result of extensive study which revealed that the 80/20 rule was in > error > b) the absolute measure of good design > c) the ratio of tab to tip when dining at a fine restaurant > d) Moises Alou's eyesight metric > > hope I get my CCIE before I have to recertify for my CCNA! :-> > > Chuck > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Priscilla Oppenheimer > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > > 70/30? Who made that one up!?! ;-) > > There's no exact number of course, but folk wisdom was always 80/20. 80% of > traffic stays local and 20% goes to a different part of the network. This > really got blown out of the water in the last 4-5 years because of > Intranets with corporate servers located centrally in server farms, a huge > amount of traffic heading out the door to the Internet, VPN and > remote-access traffic flowing back in the other way, a lot of AppleTalk and > Novell departmental servers being outlawed, etc. Some people have gone so > far as to say the equation has switched. 20% is local now and 80% is > non-local. > > You would have to check traffic flows and volume on your own network for a > number you could really use. I have never seen 70/30. Is that really what > Cisco expects you to learn now? And which do they say is local and which is > non-local? > > Priscilla > > At 12:42 AM 8/14/01, you wrote: > >is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local > >and 30 non-local? > > > >I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue > >design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp > >26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture > > wow! ), pages 35 and 575. > > > >Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that > >Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real > >world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. > > > >Chuck > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM > >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > > > > >The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is > >70/30. ;-) > >HTH > >Albert > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >Chuck Larrieu > >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > > > > >much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the > >moderator's queue (x is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest > >question and that you were entitled to an answer. > > > >80/20 or 70/30 what? > > > >are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be > >local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? > > > >I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I > >believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. > >Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all > >have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic > percentages > >by the wayside. > > > >to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably > stole. > >I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. > > > >Chuck > > > >Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) > >McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) >
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
next generation test questions: when designing a network, CCNAs should pay particular attention to a) the 80/20 rule b) the 70/30 rule c) the 50/50 rule d) rule Britannia at what layer of the OSI model does the 70/30 rule operate? a) layer 1, because it relates to what bits are where on the wire b) layer 2, because the bits are organized into frames, which use mac addresses c) layer 3, because the 70/30 rule refers to network layer design d) layer 7, because a CCNA needs to apply his/her/its study to real world situations the 70/30 rule is a) the result of extensive study which revealed that the 80/20 rule was in error b) the absolute measure of good design c) the ratio of tab to tip when dining at a fine restaurant d) Moises Alou's eyesight metric hope I get my CCIE before I have to recertify for my CCNA! :-> Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] 70/30? Who made that one up!?! ;-) There's no exact number of course, but folk wisdom was always 80/20. 80% of traffic stays local and 20% goes to a different part of the network. This really got blown out of the water in the last 4-5 years because of Intranets with corporate servers located centrally in server farms, a huge amount of traffic heading out the door to the Internet, VPN and remote-access traffic flowing back in the other way, a lot of AppleTalk and Novell departmental servers being outlawed, etc. Some people have gone so far as to say the equation has switched. 20% is local now and 80% is non-local. You would have to check traffic flows and volume on your own network for a number you could really use. I have never seen 70/30. Is that really what Cisco expects you to learn now? And which do they say is local and which is non-local? Priscilla At 12:42 AM 8/14/01, you wrote: >is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local >and 30 non-local? > >I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue >design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp >26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture > wow! ), pages 35 and 575. > >Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that >Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real >world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. > >Chuck > > > >-Original Message- >From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is >70/30. ;-) >HTH >Albert > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Chuck Larrieu >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the >moderator's queue (x is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest >question and that you were entitled to an answer. > >80/20 or 70/30 what? > >are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be >local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? > >I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I >believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. >Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all >have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages >by the wayside. > >to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. >I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. > >Chuck > >Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) >McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) >Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Manjunath Shivaramaiah >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: ccna question [7:15958] > > >hi >i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in >x and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this >regard... >I'm taking ccna exam shortly > >thanks > >manjunath.s Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16296&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
Probably will contain as much technobabble as that *other* Next Generation... ;-) -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] I can hardly wait to see the next generation of test questions ;-> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] 70/30? Who made that one up!?! ;-) There's no exact number of course, but folk wisdom was always 80/20. 80% of traffic stays local and 20% goes to a different part of the network. This really got blown out of the water in the last 4-5 years because of Intranets with corporate servers located centrally in server farms, a huge amount of traffic heading out the door to the Internet, VPN and remote-access traffic flowing back in the other way, a lot of AppleTalk and Novell departmental servers being outlawed, etc. Some people have gone so far as to say the equation has switched. 20% is local now and 80% is non-local. You would have to check traffic flows and volume on your own network for a number you could really use. I have never seen 70/30. Is that really what Cisco expects you to learn now? And which do they say is local and which is non-local? Priscilla At 12:42 AM 8/14/01, you wrote: >is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local >and 30 non-local? > >I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue >design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp >26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture > wow! ), pages 35 and 575. > >Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that >Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real >world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. > >Chuck > > > >-Original Message- >From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is >70/30. ;-) >HTH >Albert > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Chuck Larrieu >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the >moderator's queue (x is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest >question and that you were entitled to an answer. > >80/20 or 70/30 what? > >are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be >local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? > >I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I >believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. >Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all >have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages >by the wayside. > >to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. >I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. > >Chuck > >Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) >McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) >Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Manjunath Shivaramaiah >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: ccna question [7:15958] > > >hi >i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in >x and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this >regard... >I'm taking ccna exam shortly > >thanks > >manjunath.s Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16064&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
I can hardly wait to see the next generation of test questions ;-> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] 70/30? Who made that one up!?! ;-) There's no exact number of course, but folk wisdom was always 80/20. 80% of traffic stays local and 20% goes to a different part of the network. This really got blown out of the water in the last 4-5 years because of Intranets with corporate servers located centrally in server farms, a huge amount of traffic heading out the door to the Internet, VPN and remote-access traffic flowing back in the other way, a lot of AppleTalk and Novell departmental servers being outlawed, etc. Some people have gone so far as to say the equation has switched. 20% is local now and 80% is non-local. You would have to check traffic flows and volume on your own network for a number you could really use. I have never seen 70/30. Is that really what Cisco expects you to learn now? And which do they say is local and which is non-local? Priscilla At 12:42 AM 8/14/01, you wrote: >is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local >and 30 non-local? > >I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue >design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp >26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture > wow! ), pages 35 and 575. > >Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that >Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real >world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. > >Chuck > > > >-Original Message- >From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is >70/30. ;-) >HTH >Albert > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Chuck Larrieu >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the >moderator's queue (x is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest >question and that you were entitled to an answer. > >80/20 or 70/30 what? > >are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be >local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? > >I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I >believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. >Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all >have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages >by the wayside. > >to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. >I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. > >Chuck > >Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) >McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) >Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Manjunath Shivaramaiah >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: ccna question [7:15958] > > >hi >i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in >x and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this >regard... >I'm taking ccna exam shortly > >thanks > >manjunath.s Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16060&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
70/30? Who made that one up!?! ;-) There's no exact number of course, but folk wisdom was always 80/20. 80% of traffic stays local and 20% goes to a different part of the network. This really got blown out of the water in the last 4-5 years because of Intranets with corporate servers located centrally in server farms, a huge amount of traffic heading out the door to the Internet, VPN and remote-access traffic flowing back in the other way, a lot of AppleTalk and Novell departmental servers being outlawed, etc. Some people have gone so far as to say the equation has switched. 20% is local now and 80% is non-local. You would have to check traffic flows and volume on your own network for a number you could really use. I have never seen 70/30. Is that really what Cisco expects you to learn now? And which do they say is local and which is non-local? Priscilla At 12:42 AM 8/14/01, you wrote: >is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local >and 30 non-local? > >I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue >design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp >26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture > wow! ), pages 35 and 575. > >Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that >Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real >world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. > >Chuck > > > >-Original Message- >From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is >70/30. ;-) >HTH >Albert > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Chuck Larrieu >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the >moderator's queue (x is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest >question and that you were entitled to an answer. > >80/20 or 70/30 what? > >are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be >local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? > >I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I >believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. >Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all >have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages >by the wayside. > >to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. >I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. > >Chuck > >Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) >McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) >Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Manjunath Shivaramaiah >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: ccna question [7:15958] > > >hi >i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in >x and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this >regard... >I'm taking ccna exam shortly > >thanks > >manjunath.s Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16050&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
I read that it's 80/20 with 80 percent being non local and the rest on the local. Vlans seem to a lot to do with this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the moderator's queue (braindump is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest question and that you were entitled to an answer. 80/20 or 70/30 what? are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages by the wayside. to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. Chuck Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Manjunath Shivaramaiah Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccna question [7:15958] hi i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in braindumps and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this regard... I'm taking ccna exam shortly thanks manjunath.s Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15970&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local and 30 non-local? I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp 26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture wow! ), pages 35 and 575. Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. Chuck -Original Message- From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is 70/30. ;-) HTH Albert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the moderator's queue (braindump is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest question and that you were entitled to an answer. 80/20 or 70/30 what? are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages by the wayside. to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. Chuck Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Manjunath Shivaramaiah Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccna question [7:15958] hi i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in braindumps and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this regard... I'm taking ccna exam shortly thanks manjunath.s Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15969&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is 70/30. ;-) HTH Albert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the moderator's queue (braindump is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest question and that you were entitled to an answer. 80/20 or 70/30 what? are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages by the wayside. to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. Chuck Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Manjunath Shivaramaiah Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccna question [7:15958] hi i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in braindumps and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this regard... I'm taking ccna exam shortly thanks manjunath.s Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15968&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the moderator's queue (braindump is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest question and that you were entitled to an answer. 80/20 or 70/30 what? are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages by the wayside. to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. Chuck Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Manjunath Shivaramaiah Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccna question [7:15958] hi i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in braindumps and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this regard... I'm taking ccna exam shortly thanks manjunath.s Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15962&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA [7:15350]
I thought it was difficult in the broad spectrum that was needed to be prepared and the 822 score requirement. I failed it the first time by and 803. I then went through the CCNP and CCDP passing all the first time and felt each was easier due to the "one" focus of each individual exam. Leffe Eriksson wrote: > Is it just me who find CCNA hard??? > Everywhere I read that MCP ( 70-210,70-215,70-217 and 70-219 ) is at the > same level ( from 1 to 5, CCNA and MCP score4s a 2 huh?? ) > > Just wanna have Your thoughts about this! > > Seriously Leffe - Made in Sweden!! > ___ > Visit http://www.visto.com. > Find out how companies are linking mobile users to the > enterprise with Visto. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15437&t=15350 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA exam [7:15284]
At the end of the exams you take it asks you if your 18 years of older. Lucky I took my CCNA the day after my 18th b-day, so I was alright. I am currently studying for CCNP and plan on being CCIE within 2 years. Good luck on your CCNA, young people rock! :-) Russ CCNA, CCDA (Not the oldest either... ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bolton, Travis Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNA exam [7:15284] Wow I'm impressed with this young adult. If this type of field was available when I was his age I would have been studying for my CCNA as well. Glad to see some teens have ambition. Good luck to you and I would also recommend the Boson.com exams as well. -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA exam [7:15284] Why would a 14 year old take an exam. I don't think you can agree to the NDA. But good luck, let us know how you do. I would recommend the Boson tests #1 that should do you fine and fit in your budget - Original Message - From: "Artashes Kalantarian" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:23 AM Subject: CCNA exam [7:15284] > Hi All > I am new to this newsgroup > I am 14 and I am going to take the CCNA exam on the middle of this month. > Can anybody suggest me tests that I can use for checking my knowledge? > Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15410&t=15284 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA exam [7:15284]
Hea gang, I got curious, so I looked it up. On the CCCA (Cisco Career Certifications Agreement,) (the newest revision, V.7 anyway), where the signature is required there is a check box for over 18 and a box for under 18. If you are under 18 you must have a parent or Guardian sign the CCCA as well.. This isn't necessarily a representation of the CCA (Cisco Confidentiality agreement) But if you can agree to the Certification agreement, you have to be able to take the tests... I would contact either Cisco or Prometric for sure. But I say go for it my man, most people say I'm doing well for so young, (22) but you'll have me beat by FAR!!! - Regards, Michael Damkot CCNP Technical Trainer Network Support Engineer II -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bolton, Travis Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNA exam [7:15284] Wow I'm impressed with this young adult. If this type of field was available when I was his age I would have been studying for my CCNA as well. Glad to see some teens have ambition. Good luck to you and I would also recommend the Boson.com exams as well. -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA exam [7:15284] Why would a 14 year old take an exam. I don't think you can agree to the NDA. But good luck, let us know how you do. I would recommend the Boson tests #1 that should do you fine and fit in your budget - Original Message - From: "Artashes Kalantarian" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:23 AM Subject: CCNA exam [7:15284] > Hi All > I am new to this newsgroup > I am 14 and I am going to take the CCNA exam on the middle of this month. > Can anybody suggest me tests that I can use for checking my knowledge? > Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15409&t=15284 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
