Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

Hey Rich

Could you elaborate on your thoughts re combiners / charge relays vs. 
echo-chargers? I’m looking at options right now myself. 

For Edd, is there any benefit to having a solar controller that is dual-bank? 
I’m not sure which one you are proposing (have?) but I’m wondering if the 
‘programming’ of the distribution of charge to each bank will conflict with the 
voltage sensing and resulting operation of the ACR (or perhaps think of it the 
other way round).

For me I’m puzzling over a similar situation. My setup is proposed to be a 
house bank of 2 x Group 27 flooded in parallel with a small (U1?) AGM ‘start’ 
(I’m only starting an Atomic Four) ... but set it up so that the ‘start’ is 
actually a ‘reserve’ battery ... I’ll use the house bank for starting and house 
duties and connect my alternator to the house bank. So my 1-2-Both switch 
becomes a battery ‘use’ switch ... normally just used between Off and 1. But my 
battery charger is a ProMariner ProSport 20amp 3-bank charger, that distributes 
charge to each bank depending on SOC (so for example, connected to 3 batteries 
it could provide 2amps, 2amps and 16amps) and also has multi-charging stages. 
It also wants to have one set of leads connected to at most one battery ... 
even if they are in a bank. So in my setup, 2 sets of leads to the house, one 
to each battery, and one set to the reserve. ProMariner tech support says that 
a combiner or ACR will not cause any issues but I’m not so sure this would be 
the case.  Blue Sea recommends setting up to turn off the ACR when multiple 
bank chargers / multi-stage chargers are used. So I probably will install a 
switch on the ground, like Edd plans, and/or a relay to trigger on energizing 
the AC circuit to the battery charger and break the ground to turn off the Blue 
Sea ACR. I’ve also been looking at a Yandina Combiner 100 ... it has similar 
capability to be turned off (although with it, it has a ground connection but a 
separate ‘remote’ connection that is used to trigger the combiner off by 
closing to ground). Now I may in the future put in a solar panel. I actually 
have a good controller with single bank connection ... would certainly work 
through the combiner or ACR but probably wouldn’t be used at the same time as 
the charger (solar alongside / underway during summer months and charger only 
during the winter when I’m running cabin heater / dehumidifier anyway). 

I don’ think, by the way, that the Echo-charger can be turned ‘off’?

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C&C 27 MkIII


From: Knowles Rich via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:19 PM
To: Edd Schillay ; cnc-list Cnc-List 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

No major problems that I can see. I’m not a big fan of battery combiners for 
charging purposes and would prefer to see a XANTREX EchoCharge unit in its 
place. 

Check out 
http://xantrex.com/power-products/power-accessories/auxiliary-battery-charger.aspx


Rich Knowles
Nanaimo BC.
INDIGO LF38
For sale and buried in snow in Halifax, NS.



On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:30, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
wrote:

Listers, 

Thanks for all of the advice regarding rewiring the power systems on the 
Enterprise. 

Here is link to my draft setup: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf
 

Very crude I know and probably could be considered a mess by any respectful 
wiring diagram standards. Still, I would appreciate listers input or just to 
say “Edd, you got it all wrong. You idiot. Get off our C&C List, you amateur 
hack.”

Thanks again. This list is the most valuable part of owning my C&C. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


 











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Re: Stus-List Spot sat phone

[Steve Sharkey via CnC-List]

You are correct - it is Globalstar and they did have problems with the first 
generation satellites.  This phone works with the second generation satellites 
that were launched about two years ago.  I have one and it's excellent.  It 
starts up and locks on satellites faster than I can start my cell phone and the 
voice quality is excellent.  The data is slow, but that's true for any of the 
systems.

Joel - if you want to try it, I'd be happy to let you.  I have a lot of minutes 
left from last year that will expire, so great if we use some.

Steve
C&C 37
Impromptu

Steve Sharkey

> On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> My understanding is that Spot Sat phone is based on Globalstar network and as 
> I recall they had some issues with their first generation satellites. I 
> haven't checked to see if they have fully deployed the gen2 sats...
> 
> I really like my Iridium 9505 brick phone. Very simple and reliable. I've 
> made calls from inside the cabin in heavy seas without an issue. You can pick 
> one up on eBay for around $350.
> 
> Cheers,
> Aaron R.
> Admiral Maggie,
> 1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540
> Annapolis, MD
> 
> 
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:09:47 -0400
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Spot sat phone
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> Does anyone have experience with the Spot sat phone?  Its almost affordable 
> at $500.
> 
> Joel
> 35/3
> Annapolis
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

[Knowles Rich via CnC-List]

No major problems that I can see. I’m not a big fan of battery combiners for 
charging purposes and would prefer to see a XANTREX EchoCharge unit in its 
place.

Check out 
http://xantrex.com/power-products/power-accessories/auxiliary-battery-charger.aspx

Rich Knowles
Nanaimo BC.
INDIGO LF38
For sale and buried in snow in Halifax, NS.


On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:30, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
wrote:

Listers,

Thanks for all of the advice regarding rewiring the power systems on the 
Enterprise. 

Here is link to my draft setup: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf
 

 

Very crude I know and probably could be considered a mess by any respectful 
wiring diagram standards. Still, I would appreciate listers input or just to 
say “Edd, you got it all wrong. You idiot. Get off our C&C List, you amateur 
hack.”

Thanks again. This list is the most valuable part of owning my C&C. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List Rigging set-up

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Like your videos. Always meant to do that for my boat and crew. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

- Original Message -

From: "Joel Aronson via CnC-List"  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:02:54 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Rigging set-up 

All, 

In order to help my race crew adjust to my boat, I made 2 short videos showing 
the running rigging and electronics that are on YouTube under C&C 35 Rigging. 
If you are bored, take a look. 

What I've done may not be right for anyone else, but it might give you ideas of 
what to do or not do, and if you have a 35/3, you can see how different our 
boats are. I know some have a different mast, some have hydraulic vangs, some 
lack a second jib track and reaching strut, etc. 

Joel 
35/3 
Annapolis 

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Re: Stus-List First aid kit

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I suppose, Joel, it depends on what you mean by “offshore”.

 

If offshore means the South Pacific, and when in New Guinea you might run into 
(inset whatever nasty bug or predator trips your trigger here) a $450 kit might 
be a bargain. Even a necessitiy.

 

For me, offshore means the islands in the Bahamas, or maybe some place in the 
Caribbean. My kit is pretty big. I can splint, suture, heat, cool, rehydrate, 
relieve pain, treat burns. Heck, the kit even has a scalpel and tubing, but if 
you need a tracheotomy you are probably SOL, buddy. The kit takes up 3 
waterproof boxes – four if you count the one marked “analgesics” that has the 
scopolamine, Dramamine, aspirin, Tylenol, sunburn cream, etc. in it – and it 
cost somewhere around $200 to put together.

 

Look  on a couple of cruiser sites and you should be able to come up with a 
list of contents appropriate for the area where you will be going. Or ask the 
wife. Then buy what you need.

 

Rick Brass

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 1:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List First aid kit

 

I'd like to buy an "offshore" first aid kit.  The large ones, even on sale at 
Defender, are $450.  There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee Medical, ULine, 
Orion and even Bass Pro Shops.


 

Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical 
training beyond basic first aid.  (She's a nurse.)  Any recommendations other 
than ask her?

-- 

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301 541 8551

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Re: Stus-List First aid kit

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Check with a friendly doctor who sails if you know one. Lots of variable needs 
depending where you are sailing and for how long.

-Original Message-
From: "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" 
Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎26 7:42 PM
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List First aid kit

I would recommend completing the kit yourself. I find that most standard kits 
come with a lot of stuff you don`t need and don`t have stuff you want. Even the 
Band-Aids have to be selected carefully. Keep in mind that chances are that 
both you and the victim might be wet.
 
You want stuff that you may need and that you would know how to use.
 
Marek
 
From: Alan Bergen via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:32 PM
To: C&C Photoalbum email list 
Subject: Stus-List First aid kit
 
Check with the local Red Cross.  They sell first aid kits in different sizes.

 
Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

 
I'd like to buy an "offshore" first aid kit.  The large ones, even on sale at 
Defender, are $450.  There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee Medical, ULine, 
Orion and even Bass Pro Shops.

 
Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical 
training beyond basic first aid.  (She's a nurse.)  Any recommendations other 
than ask her?
-- 

Joel 
301 541 8551


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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Fred,

 

I'm looking forward to the new instruments.  My B&G stuff from the 80's is
well overdue for replacement.  I will be splashing in mid April.  Hope you
can expedite getting them here.  J

 

Trying to decide how many other displays I will need and where to put them.
I like a dedicated depth display, especially in the thin water around here. 

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

"Midnight Mistress"

C&C 35 Mk-III

Hampton VA

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:07 PM
To: Chuck Borge; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments?

 

Chuck - I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take
was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing.  The wind display
will only ever display wind.  For not much more, you could get into the i70
system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show
any data on the bus.  So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display
wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this):

 



 

Want to add another display?  Change the data shown on the first display,
and add other data on the new one.  It's a very nice, customizable system.

 

Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on
any instrument purchase.  If you want special C&C lister pricing, contact me
off-list.  And there are others on the list for whom I've provided gear,
including the i70 System - ask around for their experience.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^( 

 

On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List
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Hi Edd, Joel,

 

Thanks for the info.  It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle
(wired).  I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the
dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the
solar up.

Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog
reading on the i60 better.

 

 

So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please?

 

Thanks,

Chuck B

C&C 34 Elusive

Somerset, MA

 

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Re: Stus-List First aid kit

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I would recommend completing the kit yourself. I find that most standard kits 
come with a lot of stuff you don`t need and don`t have stuff you want. Even the 
Band-Aids have to be selected carefully. Keep in mind that chances are that 
both you and the victim might be wet.

You want stuff that you may need and that you would know how to use.

Marek

From: Alan Bergen via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:32 PM
To: C&C Photoalbum email list 
Subject: Stus-List First aid kit

Check with the local Red Cross.  They sell first aid kits in different sizes.


Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty


I'd like to buy an "offshore" first aid kit.  The large ones, even on sale at 
Defender, are $450.  There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee Medical, ULine, 
Orion and even Bass Pro Shops.


Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical 
training beyond basic first aid.  (She's a nurse.)  Any recommendations other 
than ask her?
-- 

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301 541 8551



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Stus-List First aid kit

[Alan Bergen via CnC-List]

Check with the local Red Cross. They sell first aid kits in different sizes. 

Alan Bergen 
35 Mk III Thirsty 

I'd like to buy an "offshore" first aid kit. The large ones, even on sale at 
Defender, are $450. There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee Medical, ULine, 
Orion and even Bass Pro Shops. 

Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical 
training beyond basic first aid. (She's a nurse.) Any recommendations other 
than ask her? 
-- 
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301 541 8551 
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Re: Stus-List Spot sat phone

[Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List]

My understanding is that Spot Sat phone is based on Globalstar network 
and as I recall they had some issues with their first generation 
satellites. I haven't checked to see if they have fully deployed the 
gen2 sats...

I really like my Iridium 9505 brick phone. Very 
simple and reliable. I've made calls from inside the cabin in heavy seas
 without an issue. You can pick one up on eBay for around $350.

Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD

Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:09:47 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Spot sat phone
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Does anyone have experience with the Spot sat phone?  Its almost affordable at 
$500.
Joel35/3Annapolis



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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Eric, 

No worries on the stalking parts, I'm kinda doing the same. 
But I think I really want to change some stuff. 
I have 2 displays and the keypad plus the brain.  I'll let you know if I pull 
the trigger on a new system. 

Best, 
Chuck

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Eric Baumes  wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> I feel a little like a vulture.
> 
> I am still trying to keep my KVH system alive, so if you are replacing stuff, 
> let me know. I am particularly interested in buying any working dual displays.
> 
> Eric
> 34/36 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Fred,
>> 
>> Thanks for both the input and the offer.  I get what you are saying, 
>> regarding function.  And I'll give that some thought.
>> I like the analog look for wind, just a sucker for a more classic look.  
>> Plus I've got space to fill if I take out the old stuff, so extra displays 
>> are ok.  And my lovely bride wouldn't change the info by leaning up against 
>> it, like she always does now.
>> I guess I've got some figuring to do... Almost April, then one month to 
>> splash.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Chuck B
>> C&C 34 Elusive
>> Somerset, MA
>> 
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Re: Stus-List First aid kit

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

There is some good write up on that in one of the online books on single 
handling. I don`t have access at this moment (I am travelling), but if you 
Google single handling, you should be able to find it. If not, I will be back 
by Easter and will find it for you.

Marek

(stuck in Denver as part of (unintentional) visiting all United Airlines 
airports in the US)

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 1:21 PM
To: Josh Muckley ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List First aid kit

Josh, 

Advanced training would be worthwhile, but i'd probably pass out during the 
course!  

In the Safety at Sea seminar they made clear that if you have a heart attack 
and no AED you are dead.  No one can do CPR long enough for a boat or chopper 
to get to you.  Sobering stuff!  

During the Bermuda race we had an MD on board, but he hadn't seen a patient in 
30 years.  Still it was comforting to have him there.  My internist was good 
about writing prescriptions for Zofran, scopalamine etc.  I'll need to re-stock.

Joel

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  Joel,

  I've also heard quite a few recommendations for the whole offshore crew to 
have advanced medical training.  No matter how good the first aid bag is and 
how good your wife is, what if she is the one injured?  AEDs are also becoming 
a regular addition to offshore kits.  I recommend it.

  You can also talk to you family practitioner they can provide recommendations 
and prescriptions for necessary additions.

  Josh Muckley
  S/V Sea Hawk
  1989 C&C 37+
  Solomons, MD

  On Mar 26, 2015 1:59 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List"  
wrote:

Joel, 

Most sporting goods stores and camping supply outfits has some good robust 
kits for a fraction of the “marine” prices. How detailed a set will depend on 
you and the requirements. I have a pretty good set on board which I got for 
under $100, but I don’t go more than a few miles offshore and don’t see myself 
as someone who could do any major first aid beyond the basics. 

Having a nurse on board is a major benefit. It would be wise to ask her 
what items she would need on board in case something happens and then pick a 
kit based on that. 



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


 











  On Mar 26, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  I'd like to buy an "offshore" first aid kit.  The large ones, even on 
sale at Defender, are $450.  There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee Medical, 
ULine, Orion and even Bass Pro Shops.


  Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical 
training beyond basic first aid.  (She's a nurse.)  Any recommendations other 
than ask her?
  -- 

  Joel 
  301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

No, you would also have to purchase a Raymarine iTC-5 Instrument Transducer
Converter and a few more cables to make up a small SeaTalk ng network as
there are no connections on the i70 for the transducers.

http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=3338

...or you could keep the i50 tridata instrument mounted and hooked up
somewhere on the boat and connect an i70 to it using a single SeaTalk ng
cable.

Ken H.

On 26 March 2015 at 18:09, Robert Hrabinsky via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Stupid question: I just installed an i50 tridata instrument on my bulkhead
> last season. If I wanted to do so, could I swap in an i70 on a plug and
> play basis?
>
> Robert H.
> 1989 C&C 30 MKII
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung device
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List 
> Date: 03-26-2015 1:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: 'Chuck Borge' 
> Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments?
>
> Chuck,
>
>
>
> Ditto on Fred’s i70 recommendation.  I looked at i50/60’s but ended up
> with four i70’s.  Two are on each side of the companionway so they are
> easily visible from the helm and anywhere in the cockpit.  Depending upon
> what I’m doing, they are set to display whatever I data needed at the
> time.  I’m glad that I invested the slight extra $.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> *Ron*
>
> Ronald V. Ricci
>
> S/V Patriot
>
> C&C 37+
>
> Bristol, RI
>
> ron.ri...@1968.usna.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Frederick G Street [mailto:f...@postaudio.net]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:07 PM
> *To:* Chuck Borge; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New instruments?
>
>
>
> Chuck — I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my
> take was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing.  The wind
> display will only ever display wind.  For not much more, you could get into
> the i70 system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display
> can show any data on the bus.  So you can set it up in tri-data mode and
> display wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this):
>
>
>
>
>
> Want to add another display?  Change the data shown on the first display,
> and add other data on the new one.  It’s a very nice, customizable system.
>
>
>
> Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on
> any instrument purchase.  If you want special C&C lister pricing, contact
> me off-list.  And there are others on the list for whom I’ve provided gear,
> including the i70 System — ask around for their experience.
>
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V *Oceanis* (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Edd, Joel,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the info.  It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle
> (wired).  I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the
> dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the
> solar up.
>
> Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the
> analog reading on the i60 better.
>
>
>
>
>
> So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chuck B
>
> C&C 34 Elusive
>
> Somerset, MA
>
>
>
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Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

Thanks for all of the advice regarding rewiring the power systems on the 
Enterprise. 

Here is link to my draft setup: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf
 

 

Very crude I know and probably could be considered a mess by any respectful 
wiring diagram standards. Still, I would appreciate listers input or just to 
say “Edd, you got it all wrong. You idiot. Get off our C&C List, you amateur 
hack.”

Thanks again. This list is the most valuable part of owning my C&C. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 













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Re: Stus-List lf38 hatch seals

[David Paine via CnC-List]

But, if you go to the McMaster site via the link scroll down to the EDPM
cord which is an exact replacement and not the other stuff listed on that
page.

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Here's the stuff. Seems the galley and head hatches are A&H. I also need a
> spring, but need to go to the boat to measure the spring and the seal. If
> you're somewhere you can get the measurements for the galley hatch seal and
> the spring, and get the part# for the hatch this weekend, please send the
> measurements/# on.
>
> Also, since I can't find the reference email (now there's and argument for
> a forum rather than a list), here's the site for the seal -
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#foam-cords/=whac6k, and here's the A&H site.Parts
> Department | Atkins & Hoyle | Boat & Marine Dinghy Davits, Hardtops and
> Arches <http://atkinshoyle.com/products/parts-department.html>
>
>
> [image: image] <http://atkinshoyle.com/products/parts-department.html>
>
>
>
>
>
> Parts Department | Atkins & Hoyle | Boat & Marine Din...
> <http://atkinshoyle.com/products/parts-department.html>
> Atkins & Hoyle is known for manufacturing well engineered, attractive and
> exceptionally durable cast hatches and ports for the past 30 years.
> View on atkinshoyle.com
> <http://atkinshoyle.com/products/parts-department.html>
> Preview by Yahoo
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 09:43:11 -0400
> From: "Rick Brass" 
> To: "'Patrick Davin'" ,
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Hatch gasket material for A&H small hatches?
> Message-ID: <002c01d067ca$cda56e10$68f04a30$@earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I resealed my A&H hatches with a ?? diameter neoprene foam ?rod? called
> breaker bead by a friend in the glass business. It is used to seal around
> commercial windows and is pretty inexpensive. I think you can find it at
> Lowes and Home Depot, but mine came from a glass shop. I scraped the old
> foam seals out of the channels where they are mounted and wire brushed the
> aluminum frames, then applied 3M automotive trim adhesive and spread it in
> the channel and pressed the rubber into place.
>
>
>
> Cut the rod square with a razor blade, start at middle of the lower side
> of the hatch, make sure you don?t stretch the rod as you press it in place,
> cut the finished end to length with a razor blade when you get there and
> can be sure to get a tight match with the point where you started.
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2
>
> la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
> Patrick Davin via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:51 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Hatch gasket material for A&H small hatches?
>
>
>
> I know this question came up in 2006 
> (http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2006-May/002846.html
> ), but that's 9 years ago and the story may have changed since then.
>
>
>
> I'm getting to work on a few leaks in our boat, and the galley + head
> hatches (LF38) come first.
>
>
> The previous thread recommended Clean Seal, or direct from Atkins & Hoyle
> (for the more expensive option). I had trouble finding the part # on Clean
> Seal though. Are those two still the best options?
>
>
>
> Here's are some pics of the galley hatch:
>
> http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=181
>
> http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=179
>
> http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=180
>
>
>
> The current gasket material actually doesn't look that bad, it just
> doesn't seat well - so unless I'm very careful to cram it in the right
> spots we get leaks. I almost wonder whether it's just the wrong size/shape
> for the hatch?
>
>
>
> Would something like the Bomar Hatch gasket material (5/8" in an extruded
> format or 9/16" in round) on Defender possibly work?
>
>
>
> http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|6880|2290165 <
> http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|6880|2290165&id=1230878>
> &id=1230878
>
>
>
> -Patrick
>
> 1984 LF38 S/V Violet Hour
> Seattle, WA
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Robert Hrabinsky via CnC-List]

Stupid question: I just installed an i50 tridata instrument on my bulkhead last season. If I wanted to do so, could I swap in an i70 on a plug and play basis? Robert H. 1989 C&C 30 MKIISent from my Samsung device Original message From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List  Date: 03-26-2015  1:38 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: 'Chuck Borge'  Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck, Ditto on Fred’s i70 recommendation.  I looked at i50/60’s but ended up with four i70’s.  Two are on each side of the companionway so they are easily visible from the helm and anywhere in the cockpit.  Depending upon what I’m doing, they are set to display whatever I data needed at the time.  I’m glad that I invested the slight extra $. Regards,RonRonald V. RicciS/V PatriotC&C 37+Bristol, RIron.ri...@1968.usna.com      From: Frederick G Street [mailto:f...@postaudio.net] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:07 PMTo: Chuck Borge; cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck — I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing.  The wind display will only ever display wind.  For not much more, you could get into the i70 system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show any data on the bus.  So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this):  Want to add another display?  Change the data shown on the first display, and add other data on the new one.  It’s a very nice, customizable system. Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on any instrument purchase.  If you want special C&C lister pricing, contact me off-list.  And there are others on the list for whom I’ve provided gear, including the i70 System — ask around for their experience.Fred Street -- MinneapolisS/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(  On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List  wrote:Hi Edd, Joel, Thanks for the info.  It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle (wired).  I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the solar up.Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog reading on the i60 better.  So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please? Thanks,Chuck BC&C 34 ElusiveSomerset, MA ___

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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

Chuck,

 

Ditto on Fred's i70 recommendation.  I looked at i50/60's but ended up with
four i70's.  Two are on each side of the companionway so they are easily
visible from the helm and anywhere in the cockpit.  Depending upon what I'm
doing, they are set to display whatever I data needed at the time.  I'm glad
that I invested the slight extra $.

 

Regards,

Ron

Ronald V. Ricci

S/V Patriot

C&C 37+

Bristol, RI

  ron.ri...@1968.usna.com

 



 

From: Frederick G Street [mailto:f...@postaudio.net] 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:07 PM
To: Chuck Borge; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments?

 

Chuck - I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take
was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing.  The wind display
will only ever display wind.  For not much more, you could get into the i70
system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show
any data on the bus.  So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display
wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this):

 



 

Want to add another display?  Change the data shown on the first display,
and add other data on the new one.  It's a very nice, customizable system.

 

Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on
any instrument purchase.  If you want special C&C lister pricing, contact me
off-list.  And there are others on the list for whom I've provided gear,
including the i70 System - ask around for their experience.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^( 

 

On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List
 wrote:





Hi Edd, Joel,

 

Thanks for the info.  It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle
(wired).  I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the
dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the
solar up.

Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog
reading on the i60 better.

 

 

So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please?

 

Thanks,

Chuck B

C&C 34 Elusive

Somerset, MA

 

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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Speaking of instruments - - I have an old Nexus (NX1?) system. It works. 
But...some damn (large) bird decided to perch on my wind instrument on the top 
of the mast. He/she broke off the vane of the wind direction part. I found it 
on the deck, but am unsure about trying to reattach it - glue? a light weight 
stiffener? I dunno.

Does anyone have such an old relic sitting around in their boat bin? I would 
rather replace the vane than try to repair it.

Thanks for looking.

Gary Nylander
St. Michaels MD 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Baumes via CnC-List 
  To: Chuck Borge ; cnc-list 
  Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:04 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments?


  Chuck,


  I feel a little like a vulture.


  I am still trying to keep my KVH system alive, so if you are replacing stuff, 
let me know. I am particularly interested in buying any working dual displays.


  Eric
  34/36 


  On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi Fred,


Thanks for both the input and the offer.  I get what you are saying, 
regarding function.  And I'll give that some thought.
I like the analog look for wind, just a sucker for a more classic look.  
Plus I've got space to fill if I take out the old stuff, so extra displays are 
ok.  And my lovely bride wouldn't change the info by leaning up against it, 
like she always does now.
I guess I've got some figuring to do... Almost April, then one month to 
splash.


Thanks,
Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA



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Re: Stus-List Defender's Warehouse Sale

[Tim Goodyear via CnC-List]

I didn't make it there in-person this year, but my order just arrived...
Sometimes it's good to be a few miles down the road from Defender!  Do you
think I should take the shiny new PLM for kayaking in the Keys next week?

Tim
Mojito
C&C 35-3
Branford, CT


On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:11 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I go every year just to get me in the boating frame of mind.  Harder this
> year with all the snow still on the ground. I find the best bargains are
> often the clothing, but you have to get there early.  I have coastal
> jackets for the family, full jacket and farmer john for myself, drysuit
> etc. all bought there at heavy discount.   HH and others usually have some
> great deals on waterproofs, shirts, shoes, gloves, etc.  Bottom paint reps
> are also there with rebates.  Dave
>
>
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
>
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Eric Baumes via CnC-List]

Chuck,

I feel a little like a vulture.

I am still trying to keep my KVH system alive, so if you are replacing
stuff, let me know. I am particularly interested in buying any working dual
displays.

Eric
34/36

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Fred,
>
> Thanks for both the input and the offer.  I get what you are saying,
> regarding function.  And I'll give that some thought.
> I like the analog look for wind, just a sucker for a more classic look.
> Plus I've got space to fill if I take out the old stuff, so extra displays
> are ok.  And my lovely bride wouldn't change the info by leaning up against
> it, like she always does now.
> I guess I've got some figuring to do... Almost April, then one month to
> splash.
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck B
> C&C 34 Elusive
> Somerset, MA
>
>
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Stus-List (no subject)

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Chuck, 
  Going Garmin wired masthead, gmi 20 displays, linked to my Garmin 741 
chartplotter.  I may keep a couple displays which are good and move below and 
link in using the chartplotter as bridge.  
   I won't k ow what I am selling until install done, and may sell individually 
or package.  I will post here after installing in May. 
Email me at wwadjourned@Gmail com and I will give you first shot.  I have been 
looking for a analog wind display for two years and just gave up. 
Bill Walker





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Re: Stus-List First aid kit

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Joel

Ask her what needs to be in the kit and then what she would be able to use
if it were in the kit, buy every item she suggests, check against what is
in standard kits and make sure you have everything covered and buy more of
each than a standard kit includes...buy a water tight container and label
as First Aid and store on board...you can get a lot of first aid kit suff
for $450..by the way, I watched your rigging videos showing what you have
done on "The Office"...very well organized rigging...I hope your crew
appreciates your attention to rigging details...and very nice boat, thanks
for sharing the videos

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


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> I'd like to buy an "offshore" first aid kit.  The large ones, even on sale
> at Defender, are $450.  There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee Medical,
> ULine, Orion and even Bass Pro Shops.
>
> Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical
> training beyond basic first aid.  (She's a nurse.)  Any recommendations
> other than ask her?
> --
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Fred,

Thanks for both the input and the offer.  I get what you are saying,
regarding function.  And I'll give that some thought.
I like the analog look for wind, just a sucker for a more classic look.
Plus I've got space to fill if I take out the old stuff, so extra displays
are ok.  And my lovely bride wouldn't change the info by leaning up against
it, like she always does now.
I guess I've got some figuring to do... Almost April, then one month to
splash.

Thanks,
Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List First aid kit

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That would be funny!  I'm a lucky guy - she is doing the return from
Newport to Annapolis, so I need to be stocked properly.

Joel

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>   I can see it now ... Happy Birthday Honey! ... I got you this nifty
> offshore 1st aid kit!  Oh ... did I not mention we are going offshore this
> summer?
>
>  *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:49 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List First aid kit
>
>  I'd like to buy an "offshore" first aid kit.  The large ones, even on
> sale at Defender, are $450.  There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee
> Medical, ULine, Orion and even Bass Pro Shops.
>
> Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical
> training beyond basic first aid.  (She's a nurse.)  Any recommendations
> other than ask her?
> --
> Joel
> 301 541 8551
>
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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

If Edd’s going to pre-run and cut/crimp as he goes then I would think the 
hammer crimp wouldn’t work for him.

In the thriving metropolis of New York, are there any tool rental places that 
have them? Craigslist for a used one?

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:00 PM
To: C&C List ; Edd Schillay 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

If you use the hammer crimp I suggested make sure you have a good "anvil".  I 
have always had the luxury of being able to take mine home and hammer them on 
the concrete garage floor.  The "V" shaped cradle and striker compress the lug 
pretty evenly from 3 sides.  While hitting it I can hear and feel a discernable 
change when the lug is fully crimped.  IMO This type of hammer crimp is 
different/better (and cheaper) than the ancor dimple crimper (which can use a 
hammer).  The dimples in any size crimp connection are said to unevenly 
compress and hold the strands of wire.  The dimple can also cut the strands.

Josh

On Mar 26, 2015 9:33 AM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List"  
wrote:

  Fred, 

  Thanks, but the lengths are all a question mark. I purchased a large spool of 
red and black cable and are going to do the runs under this and over that, and 
then cut/crimp. 


  All the best,

  Edd


  Edd M. Schillay
  Starship Enterprise
  C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
  City Island, NY 
  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


   











On Mar 25, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Edd — I have one of the big crimpers, and could do cables for you.  I just 
need to know the gauge, the length stud to stud, and the stud sizes for the 
lugs.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^( 

On Mar 25, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
wrote:


  You ain't gonna like my answer.  My buddy and I use one of these:

  
http://www.globalelectricalsupply.com/Mechanical-Single-Indent-Heavy-Duty-Lug-Crimper-p/m-500.htm


  I'm thinking you don't want to pop $700 for one.  :)


  There are imported version for a lot less.


  Dennis C.

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Re: Stus-List First aid kit

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

I can see it now ... Happy Birthday Honey! ... I got you this nifty offshore 
1st aid kit!  Oh ... did I not mention we are going offshore this summer?

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:49 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List First aid kit

I'd like to buy an "offshore" first aid kit.  The large ones, even on sale at 
Defender, are $450.  There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee Medical, ULine, 
Orion and even Bass Pro Shops.


Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical 
training beyond basic first aid.  (She's a nurse.)  Any recommendations other 
than ask her?
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Re: Stus-List First aid kit

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Josh,

Advanced training would be worthwhile, but i'd probably pass out during the
course!

In the Safety at Sea seminar they made clear that if you have a heart
attack and no AED you are dead.  No one can do CPR long enough for a boat
or chopper to get to you.  Sobering stuff!

During the Bermuda race we had an MD on board, but he hadn't seen a patient
in 30 years.  Still it was comforting to have him there.  My internist was
good about writing prescriptions for Zofran, scopalamine etc.  I'll need to
re-stock.

Joel

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Joel,
>
> I've also heard quite a few recommendations for the whole offshore crew to
> have advanced medical training.  No matter how good the first aid bag is
> and how good your wife is, what if she is the one injured?  AEDs are also
> becoming a regular addition to offshore kits.  I recommend it.
>
> You can also talk to you family practitioner they can provide
> recommendations and prescriptions for necessary additions.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Mar 26, 2015 1:59 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Joel,
>>
>> Most sporting goods stores and camping supply outfits has some good
>> robust kits for a fraction of the “marine” prices. How detailed a set will
>> depend on you and the requirements. I have a pretty good set on board which
>> I got for under $100, but I don’t go more than a few miles offshore and
>> don’t see myself as someone who could do any major first aid beyond the
>> basics.
>>
>> Having a nurse on board is a major benefit. It would be wise to ask her
>> what items she would need on board in case something happens and then pick
>> a kit based on that.
>>
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Edd
>>
>>
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Starship Enterprise
>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> City Island, NY
>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to buy an "offshore" first aid kit.  The large ones, even on
>> sale at Defender, are $450.  There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee
>> Medical, ULine, Orion and even Bass Pro Shops.
>>
>> Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical
>> training beyond basic first aid.  (She's a nurse.)  Any recommendations
>> other than ask her?
>> --
>> Joel
>> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List First aid kit

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Joel,

I've also heard quite a few recommendations for the whole offshore crew to
have advanced medical training.  No matter how good the first aid bag is
and how good your wife is, what if she is the one injured?  AEDs are also
becoming a regular addition to offshore kits.  I recommend it.

You can also talk to you family practitioner they can provide
recommendations and prescriptions for necessary additions.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Mar 26, 2015 1:59 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Joel,
>
> Most sporting goods stores and camping supply outfits has some good robust
> kits for a fraction of the "marine" prices. How detailed a set will depend
> on you and the requirements. I have a pretty good set on board which I got
> for under $100, but I don't go more than a few miles offshore and don't see
> myself as someone who could do any major first aid beyond the basics.
>
> Having a nurse on board is a major benefit. It would be wise to ask her
> what items she would need on board in case something happens and then pick
> a kit based on that.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I'd like to buy an "offshore" first aid kit.  The large ones, even on sale
> at Defender, are $450.  There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee Medical,
> ULine, Orion and even Bass Pro Shops.
>
> Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical
> training beyond basic first aid.  (She's a nurse.)  Any recommendations
> other than ask her?
> --
> Joel
> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Chuck — I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take 
was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing.  The wind display 
will only ever display wind.  For not much more, you could get into the i70 
system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show any 
data on the bus.  So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display wind, speed 
and depth on the one display (like this):



Want to add another display?  Change the data shown on the first display, and 
add other data on the new one.  It’s a very nice, customizable system.

Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on any 
instrument purchase.  If you want special C&C lister pricing, contact me 
off-list.  And there are others on the list for whom I’ve provided gear, 
including the i70 System — ask around for their experience.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List  
wrote:

> Hi Edd, Joel,
> 
> Thanks for the info.  It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle 
> (wired).  I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the 
> dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the 
> solar up.
> Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog 
> reading on the i60 better.
> 
> 
> So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please?
> 
> Thanks,
> Chuck B
> C&C 34 Elusive
> Somerset, MA

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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

If you use the hammer crimp I suggested make sure you have a good "anvil".
I have always had the luxury of being able to take mine home and hammer
them on the concrete garage floor.  The "V" shaped cradle and striker
compress the lug pretty evenly from 3 sides.  While hitting it I can hear
and feel a discernable change when the lug is fully crimped.  IMO This type
of hammer crimp is different/better (and cheaper) than the ancor dimple
crimper (which can use a hammer).  The dimples in any size crimp connection
are said to unevenly compress and hold the strands of wire.  The dimple can
also cut the strands.

Josh
On Mar 26, 2015 9:33 AM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Fred,
>
> Thanks, but the lengths are all a question mark. I purchased a large spool
> of red and black cable and are going to do the runs under this and over
> that, and then cut/crimp.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Edd -- I have one of the big crimpers, and could do cables for you.  I just
> need to know the gauge, the length stud to stud, and the stud sizes for the
> lugs.
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> You ain't gonna like my answer.  My buddy and I use one of these:
>
>
> http://www.globalelectricalsupply.com/Mechanical-Single-Indent-Heavy-Duty-Lug-Crimper-p/m-500.htm
>
> I'm thinking you don't want to pop $700 for one.  :)
>
> There are imported version for a lot less.
>
> Dennis C.
>
>
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Stus-List lf38 hatch seals

[Daniel Sheer via CnC-List]

Here's the stuff. Seems the galley and head hatches are A&H. I also need a 
spring, but need to go to the boat to measure the spring and the seal. If 
you're somewhere you can get the measurements for the galley hatch seal and the 
spring, and get the part# for the hatch this weekend, please send the 
measurements/# on.
Also, since I can't find the reference email (now there's and argument for a 
forum rather than a list), here's the site for the seal - 
http://www.mcmaster.com/#foam-cords/=whac6k, and here's the A&H site.Parts 
Department | Atkins & Hoyle | Boat & Marine Dinghy Davits, Hardtops and Arches

|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Parts Department | Atkins & Hoyle | Boat & Marine Din...Atkins & Hoyle is 
known for manufacturing well engineered, attractive and exceptionally durable 
cast hatches and ports for the past 30 years. |
|  |
| View on atkinshoyle.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

   
Thanks,
Dan

Message: 1Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 09:43:11 -0400
From: "Rick Brass" 
To: "'Patrick Davin'" ,    
Subject: Re: Stus-List Hatch gasket material for A&H small hatches?
Message-ID: <002c01d067ca$cda56e10$68f04a30$@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I resealed my A&H hatches with a ?? diameter neoprene foam ?rod? called breaker 
bead by a friend in the glass business. It is used to seal around commercial 
windows and is pretty inexpensive. I think you can find it at Lowes and Home 
Depot, but mine came from a glass shop. I scraped the old foam seals out of the 
channels where they are mounted and wire brushed the aluminum frames, then 
applied 3M automotive trim adhesive and spread it in the channel and pressed 
the rubber into place.

 

Cut the rod square with a razor blade, start at middle of the lower side of the 
hatch, make sure you don?t stretch the rod as you press it in place, cut the 
finished end to length with a razor blade when you get there and can be sure to 
get a tight match with the point where you started.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Patrick 
Davin via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:51 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Hatch gasket material for A&H small hatches?

 

I know this question came up in 2006 
(http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2006-May/002846.html ), 
but that's 9 years ago and the story may have changed since then. 

 

I'm getting to work on a few leaks in our boat, and the galley + head hatches 
(LF38) come first. 


The previous thread recommended Clean Seal, or direct from Atkins & Hoyle (for 
the more expensive option). I had trouble finding the part # on Clean Seal 
though. Are those two still the best options?  

 

Here's are some pics of the galley hatch: 

http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=181

http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=179

http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=180

 

The current gasket material actually doesn't look that bad, it just doesn't 
seat well - so unless I'm very careful to cram it in the right spots we get 
leaks. I almost wonder whether it's just the wrong size/shape for the hatch? 

 

Would something like the Bomar Hatch gasket material (5/8" in an extruded 
format or 9/16" in round) on Defender possibly work?

 

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|6880|2290165 
<http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|6880|2290165&id=1230878> 
&id=1230878

 

-Patrick

1984 LF38 S/V Violet Hour
Seattle, WA

 

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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

They've been stuck for 2 season.  It didn't bother me so much at first, we
never had much electronics on the J24, J30 and Etchells I was racing in the
past.  But I decided this is the year to get it right.  I'll be able to
find help, but wanted to minimize the number of times I have to ask friends
to lug my butt up there.
Plus, I can't help lust after some new stuff.


*508-642-3557*

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Dennis C.  wrote:

> Might be worth a quick trip up the mast.  Can you find someone else to
> help?  Might be as simple as a spider building a web/nest in the cups.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> I've got KVH Quadro instruments that are working properly, with the
>> exception of Wind Speed.  The darn cups seem frozen and my wife can't seem
>> to haul me up the mast.  Regardless, I'm assuming the bearing is toast or
>> worse, and I'm not sure it is worth investing more money in such old
>> technology.
>> So the question is, while thinking about Defender's sale this weekend,
>> should I swap out to a new Raymarine T-108 bundle?  How tough is the
>> install?
>> And lastly, is there a market for the KVH stuff to offset the cost of the
>> new stuff? I've got a brain, 2 displays and the keypad, plus the
>> aforementioned masthead unit (anemometer not functioning)
>>
>> Thanks for any advice,
>>
>> Chuck B
>> C&C 34 Elusive
>> Somerset, MA
>>
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Might be worth a quick trip up the mast.  Can you find someone else to
help?  Might be as simple as a spider building a web/nest in the cups.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Listers,
>
> I've got KVH Quadro instruments that are working properly, with the
> exception of Wind Speed.  The darn cups seem frozen and my wife can't seem
> to haul me up the mast.  Regardless, I'm assuming the bearing is toast or
> worse, and I'm not sure it is worth investing more money in such old
> technology.
> So the question is, while thinking about Defender's sale this weekend,
> should I swap out to a new Raymarine T-108 bundle?  How tough is the
> install?
> And lastly, is there a market for the KVH stuff to offset the cost of the
> new stuff? I've got a brain, 2 displays and the keypad, plus the
> aforementioned masthead unit (anemometer not functioning)
>
> Thanks for any advice,
>
> Chuck B
> C&C 34 Elusive
> Somerset, MA
>
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Bill,

What are you sapping out to?
And what are you hoping to get for the masthead unit? Maybe I'll delay
another season...

Best,

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[William Walker via CnC-List]

I am replacing my kvh in May at Torresen Marine in Muskegon Michigan and will 
be listing on eBay after.  My top unit is sending properly, it's my analog wind 
read that has failed.   
Bill Walker
CnC  36 



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On Thursday, March 26, 2015 Chuck Borge via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi Listers, 


I've got KVH Quadro instruments that are working properly, with the exception 
of Wind Speed.  The darn cups seem frozen and my wife can't seem to haul me up 
the mast.  Regardless, I'm assuming the bearing is toast or worse, and I'm not 
sure it is worth investing more money in such old technology. 

So the question is, while thinking about Defender's sale this weekend, should I 
swap out to a new Raymarine T-108 bundle?  How tough is the install?   

And lastly, is there a market for the KVH stuff to offset the cost of the new 
stuff? I've got a brain, 2 displays and the keypad, plus the aforementioned 
masthead unit (anemometer not functioning) 


Thanks for any advice, 


Chuck B 

C&C 34 Elusive 

Somerset, MA 

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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

No problem.  I got the wired display because of the bimini.

Joel

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
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> Hi Edd, Joel,
>
> Thanks for the info.  It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle
> (wired).  I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the
> dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the
> solar up.
> Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the
> analog reading on the i60 better.
>
>
> So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please?
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck B
> C&C 34 Elusive
> Somerset, MA
>
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[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Edd, Joel,

Thanks for the info.  It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle
(wired).  I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the
dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the
solar up.
Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog
reading on the i60 better.


So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please?

Thanks,
Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List First aid kit

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Joel,

Most sporting goods stores and camping supply outfits has some good robust kits 
for a fraction of the “marine” prices. How detailed a set will depend on you 
and the requirements. I have a pretty good set on board which I got for under 
$100, but I don’t go more than a few miles offshore and don’t see myself as 
someone who could do any major first aid beyond the basics. 

Having a nurse on board is a major benefit. It would be wise to ask her what 
items she would need on board in case something happens and then pick a kit 
based on that. 



All the best,

Edd


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> On Mar 26, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd like to buy an "offshore" first aid kit.  The large ones, even on sale at 
> Defender, are $450.  There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee Medical, ULine, 
> Orion and even Bass Pro Shops.
> 
> Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical 
> training beyond basic first aid.  (She's a nurse.)  Any recommendations other 
> than ask her?
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Stus-List First aid kit

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I'd like to buy an "offshore" first aid kit.  The large ones, even on sale
at Defender, are $450.  There are lots of cheaper kits from Zee Medical,
ULine, Orion and even Bass Pro Shops.

Unless the Admiral is onboard, there will probably be no one with medical
training beyond basic first aid.  (She's a nurse.)  Any recommendations
other than ask her?
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Chuck,

The T-108 is pretty simple, but installation will depend on what you already 
have up there. I had to send someone up and it turned out to be a pretty big 
deal since my old B&G system had some stripped screws up there. The bonus is 
there’s no wiring to be done.

You may find the readings a little quirky though. If you race, it’ll be 
frustrating. If you cruise and just want basic speed and wind angle, you’ll be 
pleased. I had a mid-mast repeater installed to help with the signal on mine, 
but you should be OK with a 34. 

Even if there is extra labor involved, it will probably be cheaper than getting 
a new wife who can hoist you up the mast. 


All the best,

Edd


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> On Mar 26, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Listers,
> 
> I've got KVH Quadro instruments that are working properly, with the exception 
> of Wind Speed.  The darn cups seem frozen and my wife can't seem to haul me 
> up the mast.  Regardless, I'm assuming the bearing is toast or worse, and I'm 
> not sure it is worth investing more money in such old technology.
> So the question is, while thinking about Defender's sale this weekend, should 
> I swap out to a new Raymarine T-108 bundle?  How tough is the install?  
> And lastly, is there a market for the KVH stuff to offset the cost of the new 
> stuff? I've got a brain, 2 displays and the keypad, plus the aforementioned 
> masthead unit (anemometer not functioning)
> 
> Thanks for any advice,
> 
> Chuck B
> C&C 34 Elusive
> Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Chuck,

I have the wireless wind with the 12 volt display.  Good news is no
wiring.  Still requires a trip up the mast.

Remember, the transducer may not fit in the current thru hull sleeve.  If
you want to integrate the instruments into a chartplotter you need to buy
the T122 interface and connect using NMEA 183 - not 2000.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Listers,
>
> I've got KVH Quadro instruments that are working properly, with the
> exception of Wind Speed.  The darn cups seem frozen and my wife can't seem
> to haul me up the mast.  Regardless, I'm assuming the bearing is toast or
> worse, and I'm not sure it is worth investing more money in such old
> technology.
> So the question is, while thinking about Defender's sale this weekend,
> should I swap out to a new Raymarine T-108 bundle?  How tough is the
> install?
> And lastly, is there a market for the KVH stuff to offset the cost of the
> new stuff? I've got a brain, 2 displays and the keypad, plus the
> aforementioned masthead unit (anemometer not functioning)
>
> Thanks for any advice,
>
> Chuck B
> C&C 34 Elusive
> Somerset, MA
>
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Stus-List New instruments?

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Listers,

I've got KVH Quadro instruments that are working properly, with the
exception of Wind Speed.  The darn cups seem frozen and my wife can't seem
to haul me up the mast.  Regardless, I'm assuming the bearing is toast or
worse, and I'm not sure it is worth investing more money in such old
technology.
So the question is, while thinking about Defender's sale this weekend,
should I swap out to a new Raymarine T-108 bundle?  How tough is the
install?
And lastly, is there a market for the KVH stuff to offset the cost of the
new stuff? I've got a brain, 2 displays and the keypad, plus the
aforementioned masthead unit (anemometer not functioning)

Thanks for any advice,

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Leslie Paal via CnC-List]

I've seen a 'friend' modifying a bolt-cutter's jaws to crimp.  He did a major 
electric refit and I have not seen him working on the electric since, about 6 
years.  I can ask him.

Leslie
Phoenix, C&C32 1983


On Wed, 3/25/15, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  wrote:

 Subject: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable
 To: "C&C List" 
 Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 2:00 PM
 
 Listers,
 Does anyone have a good recommendation
 for a tool (or tools) for cutting and for crimping terminals
 onto #6 and/or #4 battery cable? 
 
 
 All the
 best,
 Edd
 
 Edd M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No:
 NCC-1701-BCity Island,
 NY Starship Enterprise's
 Captain's Log
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
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Stus-List LF38 hatch seals

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Whad'da great list. I'm sittin' here tryin' to figure out how to fix my galley 
hatch seal, don't even know what kind it is. Somebody else asks the same 
question and yet another guy gives the answer. Youse guys must be telepathetic.
Dan SheerPegathy LF38Rock Creek off the Patapsco
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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

The FTZ crimper with the rotating dies is basically a less-expensive version of 
the Greenlee I’ve got.  Definitely the ticket for reliable crimps, so long as 
you use good lugs.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 26, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Peter Fell via CnC-List  
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> As per the Maine Sail article I linked to previously. See page 3 of:
>  
> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/battery_cables&page=1
>  
> Peter Fell
> Sidney, BC
> Cygnet
> C&C 27 MkIII

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Stus-List Stern tube

[Robert Gallagher via CnC-List]

hi - quick question, my boat is a bit of a drive and I'm on my way to the
Defender sale.  I need a pss dripless shaft seal rebuild kit.

Boat is an 88 30 MKII with a 1 inch shaft. Anyone know off hand what the
stern tube diameter size is?

Rob
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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Wally Bryant via CnC-List]

Joel wrote:

Your local chandlery may let you use one.


Right.  Up in the SF Bay I bought big wires at Sven's just because they 
had a commercial crimper on a bench.


That said, I have one of those cheap Ancor crimpers.  I don't use a 
hammer.  I use vice grips, and slowly work it down.  It ain't perfect, 
but all of those crimps have held up perfectly for many years.  Of 
course the crimp was sealed with the heavy clear adhesive lined heat 
shrink stuff.


Wal


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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

As per the Maine Sail article I linked to previously. See page 3 of:

http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/battery_cables&page=1

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C&C 27 MkIII

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:10 AM
To: Bill Bina - gmail ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

No 4/0, 3/0 or 1/0 dies?  And 7AWG??   :^)


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
 wrote:


  http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html


  Bill Bina





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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

No 4/0, 3/0 or 1/0 dies?  And 7AWG??   :^)

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
 wrote:

> http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html
> 
> 
> Bill Bina

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Re: Stus-List Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Eric Frank via CnC-List]

Edd,

One company I have dealt with advertises making marine cables to order.  I have 
ordered many times from them but not ready-made cables (I used a hammer crimper 
for the cables for an inverter AC power supply for my Prius 2 years ago. 
Obviously not a marine environment - so far they work fine).  The company has 
an odd name, but the quality of the marine signal and 12 V power cables I 
bought from them was fine.  You could check with them to make sure they use a 
good crimper and lugs.

http://www.genuinedealz.com/custom-cables

Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C&C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA

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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html


Bill Bina

On 3/26/2015 9:52 AM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List wrote:


Edd,

If you run and cut each cable then bring them along with your terminal 
ends to an electric shop or yard I bet they will crimp then on for you 
very reasonably.


Burt (Skip) Stratton

1974 C&C 33-3/4 tonner

Narragansett Bay, RI

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
*Edd Schillay via CnC-List

*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:33 AM
*To:* Frederick G Street; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

Fred,

Thanks, but the lengths are all a question mark. I purchased a large 
spool of red and black cable and are going to do the runs under this 
and over that, and then cut/crimp.



All the best,

Edd

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 










On Mar 25, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Edd — I have one of the big crimpers, and could do cables for you.
 I just need to know the gauge, the length stud to stud, and the
stud sizes for the lugs.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V /Oceanis/ (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield,
WI   :^(

On Mar 25, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



You ain't gonna like my answer.  My buddy and I use one of these:


http://www.globalelectricalsupply.com/Mechanical-Single-Indent-Heavy-Duty-Lug-Crimper-p/m-500.htm

I'm thinking you don't want to pop $700 for one. :)

There are imported version for a lot less.

Dennis C.

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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Burt Stratton via CnC-List]

Edd,

 

If you run and cut each cable then bring them along with your terminal ends
to an electric shop or yard I bet they will crimp then on for you very
reasonably.

 

 

Burt (Skip) Stratton

1974 C&C 33-3/4 tonner

Narragansett Bay, RI

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
Schillay via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:33 AM
To: Frederick G Street; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

 

Fred,

 

Thanks, but the lengths are all a question mark. I purchased a large spool
of red and black cable and are going to do the runs under this and over
that, and then cut/crimp. 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log  

 











 






 

On Mar 25, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List
 wrote:

 

Edd - I have one of the big crimpers, and could do cables for you.  I just
need to know the gauge, the length stud to stud, and the stud sizes for the
lugs.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^( 

 

On Mar 25, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:





You ain't gonna like my answer.  My buddy and I use one of these:

http://www.globalelectricalsupply.com/Mechanical-Single-Indent-Heavy-Duty-Lu
g-Crimper-p/m-500.htm

I'm thinking you don't want to pop $700 for one.  :)

There are imported version for a lot less.

 

Dennis C.

 

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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Fred,

I’m well aware that yellow is the new black, but I don’t think the majority of 
the cable manufacturers got that memo. 

I’ll never confuse the AC hot lead with the DC ground. I keep my AC wires 
insulated and away from my DC. When my AC wires are exposed, it’s only for a 
few inches and very close to their white and green counterparts. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
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City Island, NY 
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> On Mar 26, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Frederick G Street  wrote:
> 
> If it’s not too tough, you could make the runs and cut to length, then ship 
> to me and I can crimp. And btw, yellow is the new black…   :^)
> 
> To avoid confusion with the “hot” AC lead, which is also black, the DC “cold” 
> color code is now yellow.  So red is DC+, yellow is DC– and green is ground 
> (both AC and DC).
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
> 
> On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Edd Schillay  > wrote:
> 
>> Fred,
>> 
>> Thanks, but the lengths are all a question mark. I purchased a large spool 
>> of red and black cable and are going to do the runs under this and over 
>> that, and then cut/crimp. 
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Edd

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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

If it’s not too tough, you could make the runs and cut to length, then ship to 
me and I can crimp. And btw, yellow is the new black…   :^)

To avoid confusion with the “hot” AC lead, which is also black, the DC “cold” 
color code is now yellow.  So red is DC+, yellow is DC– and green is ground 
(both AC and DC).

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> Fred,
> 
> Thanks, but the lengths are all a question mark. I purchased a large spool of 
> red and black cable and are going to do the runs under this and over that, 
> and then cut/crimp. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Nauset Beach via CnC-List]

Edd,

 

You probably could find a marine electrician on City Island to do the crimps
for short $ after you measure the runs you need, mark the spools with tape,
and bring the wire spools, lugs and shrink wrap tubes to him.  That way you
could get "good" cuts and crimps from a "good" crimper without shelling out
the $700 Denis mentioned.  

 

He is getting $ for very little time on his part, and you are getting top
quality cuts and crimps without investing capital.  

 

Brian

 

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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:33 AM
To: Frederick G Street; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

 

Fred,

 

Thanks, but the lengths are all a question mark. I purchased a large spool
of red and black cable and are going to do the runs under this and over
that, and then cut/crimp. 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log  

 











 






 

On Mar 25, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Edd - I have one of the big crimpers, and could do cables for you.  I just
need to know the gauge, the length stud to stud, and the stud sizes for the
lugs.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^( 

 

On Mar 25, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:





You ain't gonna like my answer.  My buddy and I use one of these:

http://www.globalelectricalsupply.com/Mechanical-Single-Indent-Heavy-Duty-Lu
g-Crimper-p/m-500.htm

I'm thinking you don't want to pop $700 for one.  :)

There are imported version for a lot less.

 

Dennis C.

 

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Re: Stus-List Hatch gasket material for A&H small hatches?

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I resealed my A&H hatches with a ½” diameter neoprene foam “rod” called breaker 
bead by a friend in the glass business. It is used to seal around commercial 
windows and is pretty inexpensive. I think you can find it at Lowes and Home 
Depot, but mine came from a glass shop. I scraped the old foam seals out of the 
channels where they are mounted and wire brushed the aluminum frames, then 
applied 3M automotive trim adhesive and spread it in the channel and pressed 
the rubber into place.

 

Cut the rod square with a razor blade, start at middle of the lower side of the 
hatch, make sure you don’t stretch the rod as you press it in place, cut the 
finished end to length with a razor blade when you get there and can be sure to 
get a tight match with the point where you started.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Patrick 
Davin via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:51 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Hatch gasket material for A&H small hatches?

 

I know this question came up in 2006 
(http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2006-May/002846.html ), 
but that's 9 years ago and the story may have changed since then. 

 

I'm getting to work on a few leaks in our boat, and the galley + head hatches 
(LF38) come first. 


The previous thread recommended Clean Seal, or direct from Atkins & Hoyle (for 
the more expensive option). I had trouble finding the part # on Clean Seal 
though. Are those two still the best options?  

 

Here's are some pics of the galley hatch: 

http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=181

http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=179

http://svviolethour.com/?attachment_id=180

 

The current gasket material actually doesn't look that bad, it just doesn't 
seat well - so unless I'm very careful to cram it in the right spots we get 
leaks. I almost wonder whether it's just the wrong size/shape for the hatch? 

 

Would something like the Bomar Hatch gasket material (5/8" in an extruded 
format or 9/16" in round) on Defender possibly work?

 

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|6880|2290165 
 
&id=1230878

 

-Patrick

1984 LF38 S/V Violet Hour
Seattle, WA

 

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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Fred,

Thanks, but the lengths are all a question mark. I purchased a large spool of 
red and black cable and are going to do the runs under this and over that, and 
then cut/crimp. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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> On Mar 25, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Edd — I have one of the big crimpers, and could do cables for you.  I just 
> need to know the gauge, the length stud to stud, and the stud sizes for the 
> lugs.
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
> 
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  > wrote:
> 
>> You ain't gonna like my answer.  My buddy and I use one of these:
>> 
>> http://www.globalelectricalsupply.com/Mechanical-Single-Indent-Heavy-Duty-Lug-Crimper-p/m-500.htm
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> I'm thinking you don't want to pop $700 for one.  :)
>> 
>> There are imported version for a lot less.
>> 
>> Dennis C.
> 
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Re: Stus-List Racing Crew Opportunity in Toronto

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Ron,

Are you paying for airfare? :-)


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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> On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Ron Ander via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I race a C&C 29 Mk 2 in the Spinnaker division on Tuesday and Thursday nights 
> at Etobicoke Yacht Club. I am looking for two experienced racing crew to 
> complete my team for either or both nights starting on Tuesday, May 12th and 
> racing for 22 consecutive weeks. I will conduct 4 training/practice sessions 
> starting on Tuesday, April 28th. There might be other skippers seeking crew 
> as well. I will forward any extra names to the racing crew bank at our club.
>  
> If you know of any others who might be interested in racing in our 
> competitive fleets please respond. 
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Ron Ander
> Alchemist
>  
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Stus-List Racing Crew Opportunity in Toronto

[Ron Ander via CnC-List]

I race a C&C 29 Mk 2 in the Spinnaker division on Tuesday and Thursday
nights at Etobicoke Yacht Club. I am looking for two experienced racing crew
to complete my team for either or both nights starting on Tuesday, May 12th
and racing for 22 consecutive weeks. I will conduct 4 training/practice
sessions starting on Tuesday, April 28th. There might be other skippers
seeking crew as well. I will forward any extra names to the racing crew bank
at our club.

 

If you know of any others who might be interested in racing in our
competitive fleets please respond. 

 

Thanks

 

Ron Ander

Alchemist

 

 

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Re: Stus-List C&C 37plus Draft

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi Ron, That is a little encouraging.   I know there is a C&C 41 for sale at 
the marina where I kept Lolita.  It drew over 7 feet and they modified the keel 
to shorten it and attached a bulb to put the weight back on.  I figured if they 
were concerned enough to go that kind of trouble, there had to be a reason... 
The Viking Drew almost 6' and I got into many places with little issue.  I had 
a couple soft groundings on shoals but nothing really hung us up.  That extra 
1'-3"  has me a bit concerned... Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Ron Ricci 
To: "'Danny Haughey'" , , 

Subject: RE: Stus-List  C&C 37plus Draft
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:30:05 -0400


Danny,
 
I have a 37+ with a 7’3” draft which I keep in Bristol, RI.  So far 
it has been no problem in Narragansett Bay, Block Island Cuttyhunk, Vineyard 
Haven & Edgartown.  I sail with a friend in a J/30 out of Red Brook Harbor.  
That’s a little tight and if I brought my boat there, I’d look for 
either a really calm, clear day and/or favorable tide.  
 
As far as the deep keel, the boat is extremely stable and rides well in rough 
water.  With 10’ waves going around Cape May, it did very well.
 
Good luck on your choice.
 
Regards,
Ron
Ronald V. Ricci
S/V Patriot
C&C 37+
Bristol, RI
ron.ri...@1968.usna.com
 

 
From: Danny Haughey [mailto:djhaug...@juno.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:45 AM
To: paradigmat...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C&C 37plus Draft
 
Hi Guys,
 
I've got a 37plus on my radar but the draft is 7'-3"  I think that may be a bit 
too deep, I don't think I'd be able to stay where I kept the Viking and I do 
like that location.  I also think it may limit some harbors out on the the 
islands in and around buzzard's bay...
 
Would anyone have any comments about the deep draft and it limitations around 
Cape Cod, south coast and the islands?
 
Danny
Boat Shopper
South Coast Massachusetts
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Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

Edd,

 

I owned a business that had  a Thomas & Betts TBM6 crimp tool.  It is
expensive and I don't think you'd want to buy one.  However, it is very
important to get a good crimp.  You might try finding someone who makes
custom marine cables.   

 

Ron  

 

From: Edd Schillay [mailto:e...@schillay.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:01 PM
To: C&C List
Subject: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable

 

Listers,

 

Does anyone have a good recommendation for a tool (or tools) for cutting and
for crimping terminals onto #6 and/or #4 battery cable? 

 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

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