Re: Cannot boot 9.1 after OSX installation
> > Hi all! > > > > "mount /dev/hda13 /mnt" and > > "chroot /mnt" > > "ybin -v" > > .. > > After reboot no bootmanager again. > > >>> > > >>> I'm surprised ybin didn't complain about no /proc mounted. Normally > > >>> you > > >>> need to mount /proc in the chroot also. You wouldn't normally want > > >>> to > > >>> mount the bootstrap, if that's what you're referring to on hda11. > > Yes, Stew is right, you must mount your root partition AND /proc to the > chroot if you want to run ybin (yaboot needs to access to the nvram to > update the boot-device): > > boot in rescue from the CD > $ mount /dev/hdaXX /mnt > where XX is the partition number of / > if /usr is on another partition, mount it too > $ mount /dev/hdaYY /mnt/usr > > $ mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc > to mount the /proc partition > > $ chroot mnt /usr/sbin/ybin -v Is the right path > (can't remember exactly where is ybin, I don't have my mac here at > work). > > Send us the output of the last command if it failed. > > $ umount /mnt/proc > $ umount /mnt/usr > $ umount /mnt > $ reboot > > I hope this will help you, > > Brice Thanks Brice! All works fine again. Andreas
Re: Cannot boot 9.1 after OSX installation
Fwiw, I've read of occasions where MacOS* has renumbered the partitions also, so perhaps your partitions are no longer arranged as you think they are. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Cannot boot 9.1 after OSX installation
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 13:19, Andreas wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:19, Andreas wrote: > Hi all! > > "mount /dev/hda13 /mnt" and > "chroot /mnt" > "ybin -v" > .. > After reboot no bootmanager again. > >>> > >>> I'm surprised ybin didn't complain about no /proc mounted. Normally > >>> you > >>> need to mount /proc in the chroot also. You wouldn't normally want > >>> to > >>> mount the bootstrap, if that's what you're referring to on hda11. Yes, Stew is right, you must mount your root partition AND /proc to the chroot if you want to run ybin (yaboot needs to access to the nvram to update the boot-device): boot in rescue from the CD $ mount /dev/hdaXX /mnt where XX is the partition number of / if /usr is on another partition, mount it too $ mount /dev/hdaYY /mnt/usr $ mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc to mount the /proc partition $ chroot mnt /usr/sbin/ybin -v (can't remember exactly where is ybin, I don't have my mac here at work). Send us the output of the last command if it failed. $ umount /mnt/proc $ umount /mnt/usr $ umount /mnt $ reboot I hope this will help you, Brice
Re: Cannot boot 9.1 after OSX installation
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 13:19, Andreas wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:19, Andreas wrote: > >> What had I best do? New installation? > > > > No. > > It seems ybin didn't write to the OF the right command for the boot, so > > do it yourself: > > > > Jump to Open Firmware by pressing COMMAND-OPTION-O-F (apple key + alt > > key and the O and F key depressed) and reboot. > > This will bring you the Open Firmware 'shell', then enter the following > > command: > > > > printenv > > > > locate the boot-device entry then enter the following command (from > > memory, basically the last part should be the same as what is shown by > > the printenv except that the partition number is added (aka 11 in your > > case)): > > > > setenv boot-device hd:11,:\\tbxi > > > > Then reboot by entering the mac-shutdown command (or something like > > that)... > Won´t work! > > After reboot now there is a little folder-icon with an question mark on > it, than the mac-icon, and than the "apple" in the middle of the screen > for booting OSX. It means that there are no usable yaboot files on your hda11 partition. Are you sure your boot (I mean the apple bootstrap partition, not the partition where vmlinux (usually /boot)) partition is hda11 ? Try the setenv thing and change the partition number... Can you still boot MacOSX ? If yes mount hda11 under MacOSX and have a look to see if it contains the yaboot files... Brice
Re: Cannot boot 9.1 after OSX installation
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Andreas wrote: > > Today I tried "mkofboot", no errors but no bootmanager too. After > reboot always OSX is starting > > What had I best do? New installation? > You looked at the link fleny68 posted also? I'm not quite sure how the kernel would have anything to do with it, since the kernel isn't active yet at that point, but worth a try I suppose. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Cannot boot 9.1 after OSX installation
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:19, Andreas wrote: Hi all! Yesterday I installed the new OSX "Panther" on my ibook. Now I cannot boot Linux. My boot partition is on /dev/hda11, swap on 12 and my system on 13. I tried the rescue-system with "mount /dev/hda11 /mnt" --> dont work, because must specifie the partition type then "mount /dev/hda13 /mnt" and "chroot /mnt" "ybin -v" .. After reboot no bootmanager again. Any ideas? I'm surprised ybin didn't complain about no /proc mounted. Normally you need to mount /proc in the chroot also. You wouldn't normally want to mount the bootstrap, if that's what you're referring to on hda11. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft Today I tried "mkofboot", no errors but no bootmanager too. After reboot always OSX is starting What had I best do? New installation? No. It seems ybin didn't write to the OF the right command for the boot, so do it yourself: Jump to Open Firmware by pressing COMMAND-OPTION-O-F (apple key + alt key and the O and F key depressed) and reboot. This will bring you the Open Firmware 'shell', then enter the following command: printenv locate the boot-device entry then enter the following command (from memory, basically the last part should be the same as what is shown by the printenv except that the partition number is added (aka 11 in your case)): setenv boot-device hd:11,:\\tbxi Then reboot by entering the mac-shutdown command (or something like that)... Brice Won´t work! After reboot now there is a little folder-icon with an question mark on it, than the mac-icon, and than the "apple" in the middle of the screen for booting OSX. I have done the same procedure (installing new system) before, but i forgot how it functioned ;-( Andreas
Re: Cannot boot 9.1 after OSX installation
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:19, Andreas wrote: > >> Hi all! > >> > >> Yesterday I installed the new OSX "Panther" on my ibook. Now I cannot > >> boot Linux. > >> > >> My boot partition is on /dev/hda11, swap on 12 and my system on 13. > >> I tried the rescue-system with > >> "mount /dev/hda11 /mnt" --> dont work, because must specifie the > >> partition type > >> then > >> "mount /dev/hda13 /mnt" and > >> "chroot /mnt" > >> "ybin -v" > >> .. > >> After reboot no bootmanager again. > >> > >> Any ideas? > >> > > > > I'm surprised ybin didn't complain about no /proc mounted. Normally > > you > > need to mount /proc in the chroot also. You wouldn't normally want to > > mount the bootstrap, if that's what you're referring to on hda11. > > > > -- > > Stew Benedict > > > > -- > > MandrakeSoft > > > > > > Today I tried "mkofboot", no errors but no bootmanager too. After > reboot always OSX is starting > > What had I best do? New installation? No. It seems ybin didn't write to the OF the right command for the boot, so do it yourself: Jump to Open Firmware by pressing COMMAND-OPTION-O-F (apple key + alt key and the O and F key depressed) and reboot. This will bring you the Open Firmware 'shell', then enter the following command: printenv locate the boot-device entry then enter the following command (from memory, basically the last part should be the same as what is shown by the printenv except that the partition number is added (aka 11 in your case)): setenv boot-device hd:11,:\\tbxi Then reboot by entering the mac-shutdown command (or something like that)... Brice
Re: Cannot boot 9.1 after OSX installation
Hi all! Yesterday I installed the new OSX "Panther" on my ibook. Now I cannot boot Linux. My boot partition is on /dev/hda11, swap on 12 and my system on 13. I tried the rescue-system with "mount /dev/hda11 /mnt" --> dont work, because must specifie the partition type then "mount /dev/hda13 /mnt" and "chroot /mnt" "ybin -v" .. After reboot no bootmanager again. Any ideas? I'm surprised ybin didn't complain about no /proc mounted. Normally you need to mount /proc in the chroot also. You wouldn't normally want to mount the bootstrap, if that's what you're referring to on hda11. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft Today I tried "mkofboot", no errors but no bootmanager too. After reboot always OSX is starting What had I best do? New installation? Bye! Andreas
Re: Cannot boot 9.1 after OSX installation
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Andreas wrote: > Hi all! > > Yesterday I installed the new OSX "Panther" on my ibook. Now I cannot > boot Linux. > > My boot partition is on /dev/hda11, swap on 12 and my system on 13. > I tried the rescue-system with > "mount /dev/hda11 /mnt" --> dont work, because must specifie the > partition type > then > "mount /dev/hda13 /mnt" and > "chroot /mnt" > "ybin -v" > .. > After reboot no bootmanager again. > > Any ideas? > I'm surprised ybin didn't complain about no /proc mounted. Normally you need to mount /proc in the chroot also. You wouldn't normally want to mount the bootstrap, if that's what you're referring to on hda11. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Cannot boot 9.1 after OSX installation
Le Jeudi 6 Novembre 2003 00:47, Andreas a écrit : > Hi all! > > Yesterday I installed the new OSX "Panther" on my ibook. Now I cannot > boot Linux. http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2003/debian-powerpc-200310/msg00206.html You need to boot from another kernel. And install a new one. Regards, -- Fleny68
Cannot boot 9.1 after OSX installation
Hi all! Yesterday I installed the new OSX "Panther" on my ibook. Now I cannot boot Linux. My boot partition is on /dev/hda11, swap on 12 and my system on 13. I tried the rescue-system with "mount /dev/hda11 /mnt" --> dont work, because must specifie the partition type then "mount /dev/hda13 /mnt" and "chroot /mnt" "ybin -v" .. After reboot no bootmanager again. Any ideas? Cheers Andreas
Re: Installation Progress 9-7-03
On Sunday 07 September 2003 18:13, Tomas Taylor wrote: > It takes two mounts. First time it gives the error: "can't read > superblock." The second time it mounts. A Linux command does the same thing every time. "Can't read superblock" on your first try likely means that you need to wait a few more seconds after inserting the disk before you mount it. >But I don't get an icon on > the desktop. The command is: mount -t hfs /dev/hcd4 /mnt/cdrom. I > made a ext2 file system on a ZIP an copied a file to it (the BASH man > page text). I can read it fine from BASH with a cat, but no desktop > access. You mean no icon access. If it was visible from a shell, it would have been visible in Konquerer, if you had looked. > > I have discovered that while in MacOS, I can change drives while > the system is running, I am better off, in Linux, to Shutdown first. There are very few changes in Linux that _require_ a reboot. This isn't one of them. I frequently hot swap my CD and Zip drives. >So, > on reboot, Bamboo discovers that I have swapped drives and reconfigures > appropriately. The Hardware profiler shows it as a ZIP Drive: /dev/hdc and > the desktop cdrom is gone. Linux isn't the Mac OS, and many things work differently. KDE Desktop Icons aren't supposed to disappear and reappear. If you want an icon for the Zip Drive, make one. Or better yet, make two, one for hdc4 and the other for hdc1. The icon(s) will remain on your desktop at all times. Then either a single (or a double, depending on your configuration) click on the desktop icon will mount the drive and open it in a Konquerer window. A right click err... F12 will get you a menu which includes "Unmount", and should include "Eject", although I have seen some problems with that in the past. YMMV. You should probably disable Bamboo on startup after that, so it doesn't mess with your setup. If you want automatic mounting of media, "man automount". > In the Boot section of Control Center one can create a "Boot Disk", > so I'm thinking of making a bootable ZIP disk for emergencies and for > running fsck, but with a bunch of extra stuff on it. For making CD images > one uses ISO, what is used for ZIP images? A boot disk is normally a floppy containing at least the following files: boot.msg initrd.img ldlinux.sys syslinux.cfg vmlinuz You already have an emergency boot disk in the installation CD. Boot from the CD, and at the prompt type "linux rescue"... IIRC, I haven't needed it in a long time :-) You need to keep in mind that your Powerbook system is a rare beast. Most people who use Linux don't use PPC's, of those, most don't use Powerbooks, and there is a huge variation in hardware just between the various Powerbook models. Expect it to require some customization and tweaking.
Installation Progress 9-7-03
Mounting the ZIP disk It takes two mounts. First time it gives the error: "can't read superblock." The second time it mounts. But I don't get an icon on the desktop. The command is: mount -t hfs /dev/hcd4 /mnt/cdrom. I made a ext2 file system on a ZIP an copied a file to it (the BASH man page text). I can read it fine from BASH with a cat, but no desktop access. I have discovered that while in MacOS, I can change drives while the system is running, I am better off, in Linux, to Shutdown first. So, on reboot, Bamboo discovers that I have swapped drives and reconfigures appropriately. The Hardware profiler shows it as a ZIP Drive: /dev/hdc and the desktop cdrom is gone. In the Boot section of Control Center one can create a "Boot Disk", so I'm thinking of making a bootable ZIP disk for emergencies and for running fsck, but with a bunch of extra stuff on it. For making CD images one uses ISO, what is used for ZIP images? ___ The trackpad is to sensitive Using Bamboo is so much more pleasant without the fast tracking. Thanks, Carl. How does one unmount a CD from graphics interface? Discovering F12 is a huge help. Thanks, cvmiller __ Connecting to the Internet This seems to be the major outstanding problem. I'm anxious to do a Linux Update. __
Re: Installation - PowerBook G3
On Saturday 06 September 2003 12:57, Tomas Taylor wrote: > So I go into the Terminal and type this command: > > ls -l /dev/tty* > > Now all these tty's are aqua and black; except for one, that's colored > red and red. It's /dev/ttyS0 that is linked to tts/0 Do these red > colors have anything to do with why I can't connect? (Or is it just > staying, "Oh, this the one you have.") If it is red and flashing, it is indicating a broken link. In other words, it is a link which points to a nonexistant target. > > > How does one unmount a CD from graphics interface? > > > When I replace CD drive with a ZIP drive in the expansion bay, Bamboo > knows that the ZIP drive is there. I can hear the heads moving and it > sometimes does a self-eject. I found the ZIP drive in the Hardware > utilitiy and tried a mount on both addresses it gave me: /dev/hdc4 and > /dev/ide/host9/bus1/target0/lun0/part4. It's a Iomega ZIP 100 ATAPI. > How does one mount it? Does an ICON appear on the desktop on an insert > to the drive? If you installed from CD, then the Zip drive was not present on the system during that process. It therefore could not be detected or configured automatically. You will have to do the configuration manually. You will need at least one entry in /etc/fstab. "man fstab" for details. I say at least one because some Zip disks show up as hdc4, and others show up as hdc1, depending on how they are formatted. So I have one fstab entry for each. My favorite mounter for my Zip disks is kdiskfree run from the panel, which will put up an icon for each fstab entry. > > > How does one set the K Desktop Environment as the default Desktop? > _ At the graphical login screen, if you use that. Otherwise try one of: /usr/bin/switchdesk-helper /usr/bin/switchdesk /usr/bin/switchdesk-gnome /usr/bin/switchdesk-kde (This is on a Redhat system, YMMV). Try: locate *switchdesk* > The trackpad is to sensitive. How does one adjust the speed? > __ I wish I knew. I have the same problem with mine. You did find Control Center>Peripherals>Mouse, didn't you? > > Which scan disk utility is recommended? > ___ man fsck HTH -Carl Brown
Re: Installation - PowerBook G3
Tomas, Perhaps you could send me an email address that wouldn't bounce. I would be happy to assist where I can without laboring the list. Tomas Taylor wrote: Howdy, First of all, I was impatient a few days ago and I apologize. __ So I go into the Terminal and type this command: ls -l /dev/tty* Now all these tty's are *aqua* and *black*; except for one, that's colored *red* and *red*. It's* **/dev/ttyS0* that is linked to *tts/0* Do these *red* colors have anything to do with why I can't connect? (Or is it just staying, "Oh, this the one you have.") Connect to what? Modem? Not sure what you are connecting to. How does one unmount a CD from graphics interface? From the GUI, "right" click the mouse (pres F12 with the mouse pointer over the CD icon). You will see "eject" which will also unmount it When I replace CD drive with a ZIP drive in the expansion bay, Bamboo knows that the ZIP drive is there. I can hear the heads moving and it sometimes does a self-eject. I found the ZIP drive in the Hardware utilitiy and tried a mount on both addresses it gave me: /dev/hdc4 and /dev/ide/host9/bus1/target0/lun0/part4. It's a Iomega ZIP 100 ATAPI. How does one mount it? Does an ICON appear on the desktop on an insert to the drive? I am not familair with the Zip in the Mac, but you could use a command such as this: # mount /dev/hdc4 /mnt/cdrom (from root) If the Zip drive is formatted for Mac or DOS you will have to put in a -t HFS or -t VFAT into the mount command. How does one set the K Desktop Environment as the default Desktop? Good question. Yellowdoglinux uses the Redhat switchdesk utility. What do we use in Mandrake? _ Whatever the network protocols are used for ethernetting a PC to a PC using a crossover cable, would be similar to a Mac to Mac ethernet connection (especially when they are both running UNIX.) Assuming you have ethernet on both sides, and the IP addresses assigned in the same subnet (such as 192.168.1.1/24 adn 192.168.1.2/24) then it doesn't matter what the machine is (unix, mac, pc) you should be able to ping the other machine. This is the beauty of IP __ The trackpad is to sensitive. How does one adjust the speed? /usr/bin/gnome-mouse-properties __ Which scan disk utility is recommended? What do you need disk scanned? Linux has fsck built in, and will do a scan if the machine isn't shut down properly (much like a mac or windows will), unless the drive is formatted ext3, which is a journalling file system which is much more advanced file system. ___ Tomás de Tejas> Craig... [from my G3 Powerbook [Pismo])
Installation - PowerBook G3
Howdy, First of all, I was impatient a few days ago and I apologize. __ So I go into the Terminal and type this command: ls -l /dev/tty* Now all these tty's are and ; except for one, that's colored and . It's that is linked to Do these colors have anything to do with why I can't connect? (Or is it just staying, "Oh, this the one you have.") How does one unmount a CD from graphics interface? When I replace CD drive with a ZIP drive in the expansion bay, Bamboo knows that the ZIP drive is there. I can hear the heads moving and it sometimes does a self-eject. I found the ZIP drive in the Hardware utilitiy and tried a mount on both addresses it gave me: and /dev/ide/host9/bus1/target0/lun0/part4. It's a Iomega ZIP 100 ATAPI. How does one mount it? Does an ICON appear on the desktop on an insert to the drive? How does one set the K Desktop Environment as the default Desktop? _ Whatever the network protocols are used for ethernetting a PC to a PC using a crossover cable, would be similar to a Mac to Mac ethernet connection (especially when they are both running UNIX.) __ The trackpad is to sensitive. How does one adjust the speed? __ Which scan disk utility is recommended? ___ Tomás de Tejas
Re: iMac and Mandrake 9.1 installation
This is to report that now I´m enyoing the Mandrake Linux 9.1 in my 350 MHz iMac. I downloaded the Xserver from a mirror, then run XFdrake and finally I added the line Option "UseFBDev" "true" Everything looks fine. Thanks again... And congratulations you have an excelent support.. Gracias Amigos Douglas Sandoval Desarrollo tecnológico Imprenta Nacional El Salvador, C.A. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: iMac and Mandrake 9.1 installation
Oh! Sorry its true, the XFree86 package is 4.3-5mdk, I´m going to download the server and try again. Thank you... __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: iMac and Mandrake 9.1 installation
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Douglas Sandoval wrote: > > > at the console (as root): > > > > urpmi XFree86-server > > XFdrake > > > > Then follow up if you're still stuck. > > > > -- > > Stew Benedict > > > > -- > > MandrakeSoft > > > > > > OK this is what i found : > > (at the console) > > urpmi XFree86-server > The following packages have bad signatures: > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-server-4.3mdk.ppc.rpm > Do you want to continue installation? (y/N) > > if I choose y(es) > the system says installing but it hangs after a few > pair of seconds. > > OK, I supposed that probably the media was damaged so > I made a new CD but it fails too. > What do I have to do? > Download the complete CD again or can I download just > the XFree86 server? > > Again, thanks a lot... > That doesn't sound right? XFree86-server-4.3-5mdk.ppc.rpm is what I have here. Yes, you can get just the server package. find a 9.1 ppc mirror and grab it. Since it's pulling from /var/cache, it doesn't appear to be using the CD media. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: iMac and Mandrake 9.1 installation
> at the console (as root): > > urpmi XFree86-server > XFdrake > > Then follow up if you're still stuck. > > -- > Stew Benedict > > -- > MandrakeSoft > > OK this is what i found : (at the console) urpmi XFree86-server The following packages have bad signatures: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-server-4.3mdk.ppc.rpm Do you want to continue installation? (y/N) if I choose y(es) the system says installing but it hangs after a few pair of seconds. OK, I supposed that probably the media was damaged so I made a new CD but it fails too. What do I have to do? Download the complete CD again or can I download just the XFree86 server? Again, thanks a lot... __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: iMac and Mandrake 9.1 installation
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Douglas Sandoval wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I´m trying to install Mandrake 9.1 for PPC in an old > iMac (iMac 350 MHz and an ati rage video card) but > having a lot of trouble at the end of the > installation. I followed the instructions to use: > install-gui-benh gui-old (install-gui fail to display > correctly the initial screen,install-text doesn´t work > neither), with benh the installation process works > fine, ejects the cd1 an cd2 and load the cd3, but at > the stage of summary says that the graphic interface > its not configured, if I choose to configure, it > recommends: imac monitor and ati rage video card, > Xfree86 3d accel, when I choose next, appears the same > screen that appears when it is copying files, seems > like its going to load or configure anything else but > it hangs, no errors no beep, nothing, the only option > then is to reboot, I have tried the same with other > XF86 video cards. > If I reboot, Linux loads but no in graphical mode, if > I type startx it says there is an (errno 2). There is > no /var/log/XFree86.0.log file > Please help me, I´m sad because I have 6 iMacs that i > want to load with Mandrake...but i have to probe that > it is possible...Thanks a lot > at the console (as root): urpmi XFree86-server XFdrake Then follow up if you're still stuck. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
iMac and Mandrake 9.1 installation
Hi Everyone, I´m trying to install Mandrake 9.1 for PPC in an old iMac (iMac 350 MHz and an ati rage video card) but having a lot of trouble at the end of the installation. I followed the instructions to use: install-gui-benh gui-old (install-gui fail to display correctly the initial screen,install-text doesn´t work neither), with benh the installation process works fine, ejects the cd1 an cd2 and load the cd3, but at the stage of summary says that the graphic interface its not configured, if I choose to configure, it recommends: imac monitor and ati rage video card, Xfree86 3d accel, when I choose next, appears the same screen that appears when it is copying files, seems like its going to load or configure anything else but it hangs, no errors no beep, nothing, the only option then is to reboot, I have tried the same with other XF86 video cards. If I reboot, Linux loads but no in graphical mode, if I type startx it says there is an (errno 2). There is no /var/log/XFree86.0.log file Please help me, I´m sad because I have 6 iMacs that i want to load with Mandrake...but i have to probe that it is possible...Thanks a lot __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: 9.1 Installation problems...
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Micah Buckley-Farlee wrote: > > >> Sounds pretty straightforward - you're out of space. What size > >> partitions > >> did you use? > > > > > > I used the "erase hard drive option," which appears to just partition > > everything using the defaults. > > I tried messing around with the custom partitioning a bit, but I would > > always get a "no bootstrap" error when I try to save the partitioning > > scheme. > > If anyone could give me a fix for this, but also give me a good way to > > partition a 38GB hard drive for Mandrake, please tell me. > > I am sure Stew will have better ideas, but I have encountered that > dreaded "no bootstrap" error (stew it is darn irritating). The reason > you get that is because you have no free space less that 10MB (or maybe > it is 1MB). > > If you create a partition table like any sane individual you would > create partitions for whatever you need on the MacOS side, and then a /, > /boot, /usr (maybe), /home, /opt (if you have a really big disk), > /usr/local (if you are an old timer and don't use /opt. Of course you > don't need all those, but those are the more popular. Then you have > filled the disk with all of these partitions with no free space (after > all that is what the partition game is all about, making sure that all > the disk is allocated). > > The Mandrake installer, however complains bitterly if you didn't leave > any free space for it to "automagically" create a bootstrap partition > (which will be used by ybin). As best as I understand it, you (the user) > can't create this bootstrap partion, the install has to do it. > > > > So make sure you have some free space at the end, if you are manually > partitioning. > You can create it manually. The tools are there, and I've done it myself. I guess I didn't really envision people creating all their linux partitions outside of the installer, since it's designed to do that. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: 9.1 Installation problems...
Micah Buckley-Farlee wrote: Sounds pretty straightforward - you're out of space. What size partitions did you use? I used the "erase hard drive option," which appears to just partition everything using the defaults. I tried messing around with the custom partitioning a bit, but I would always get a "no bootstrap" error when I try to save the partitioning scheme. If anyone could give me a fix for this, but also give me a good way to partition a 38GB hard drive for Mandrake, please tell me. I am sure Stew will have better ideas, but I have encountered that dreaded "no bootstrap" error (stew it is darn irritating). The reason you get that is because you have no free space less that 10MB (or maybe it is 1MB). If you create a partition table like any sane individual you would create partitions for whatever you need on the MacOS side, and then a /, /boot, /usr (maybe), /home, /opt (if you have a really big disk), /usr/local (if you are an old timer and don't use /opt. Of course you don't need all those, but those are the more popular. Then you have filled the disk with all of these partitions with no free space (after all that is what the partition game is all about, making sure that all the disk is allocated). The Mandrake installer, however complains bitterly if you didn't leave any free space for it to "automagically" create a bootstrap partition (which will be used by ybin). As best as I understand it, you (the user) can't create this bootstrap partion, the install has to do it. So make sure you have some free space at the end, if you are manually partitioning. I hope this helps, Craig...
Re: 9.1 Installation problems...
Sounds pretty straightforward - you're out of space. What size partitions did you use? I used the "erase hard drive option," which appears to just partition everything using the defaults. I tried messing around with the custom partitioning a bit, but I would always get a "no bootstrap" error when I try to save the partitioning scheme. If anyone could give me a fix for this, but also give me a good way to partition a 38GB hard drive for Mandrake, please tell me. Missed you on IRC, I was wondering why you opted to use a 6 ramdisk? No reason in particular. I saw that you needed extra in order to load the second and third CDs, so I though I'd give it a bit of extra room. (You must understand, I am a complete newbie to Linux and UNIX, except for a bit of tinkering around on the OS X terminal.) -Micah On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 05:47 AM, Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Micah Buckley-Farlee wrote: OK I've searched the archives, can't seem to find a fix, so here goes... Alright, I start installing, and it installs all of the packages fine, and then the problems occur. After i have entered the root password, created my password, and set the auto-login, it tries to install the bootloader. At first i get an error box that says: "Installation of bootloader failed. The following error occured: :Cannot create temp file. aborting. ybin: An error occured while building first stage loader. aborting..." After dismissing this box, the following text shows up in the background: "Can't do inplace edit on /mnt/etc/modules.conf: No space left on device at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/MDK/Common/File.pm line 226." Sounds pretty straightforward - you're out of space. What size partitions did you use? Missed you on IRC, I was wondering why you opted to use a 6 ramdisk? -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: 9.1 Installation problems...
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 09:18:26PM -0500, Micah Buckley-Farlee wrote: > OK I've searched the archives, can't seem to find a fix, so here goes... > Alright, I start installing, and it installs all of the packages fine, > and then the problems occur. After i have entered the root password, > created my password, and set the auto-login, it tries to install the > bootloader. > At first i get an error box that says: > "Installation of bootloader failed. The following error occured: > :Cannot create temp file. aborting. > ybin: An error occured while building first stage loader. aborting..." > > After dismissing this box, the following text shows up in the > background: > "Can't do inplace edit on /mnt/etc/modules.conf: No space left on > device at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/MDK/Common/File.pm line 226." > > Any ideas? Shoulds to me like the root partition (i.e. /) is out of space. How much space did you allocate to it? -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org "What upsets me is not that you lied to me, but that from now on I can no longer believe you." -- Nietzsche
Re: 9.1 Installation problems...
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Micah Buckley-Farlee wrote: > OK I've searched the archives, can't seem to find a fix, so here goes... > Alright, I start installing, and it installs all of the packages fine, > and then the problems occur. After i have entered the root password, > created my password, and set the auto-login, it tries to install the > bootloader. > At first i get an error box that says: > "Installation of bootloader failed. The following error occured: > :Cannot create temp file. aborting. > ybin: An error occured while building first stage loader. aborting..." > > After dismissing this box, the following text shows up in the > background: > "Can't do inplace edit on /mnt/etc/modules.conf: No space left on > device at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/MDK/Common/File.pm line 226." > Sounds pretty straightforward - you're out of space. What size partitions did you use? Missed you on IRC, I was wondering why you opted to use a 6 ramdisk? -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
More details on aforementioned MDK9.1 Installation problems
Sorry, I forgot to mention some details (excuse the newbie-ness, i am new to both linux and mailing lists) This is all on an eMac G4700MHz with 256MB RAM and a 38GB Maxtor HD, and Geforce 2 MX graphics. I am installing using the prompt "install-gui-benh text video=ofonly" There is nothing else on the hard drive i am using, so I am going with the "Erase hard drive" option. I think that's all. Sorry once again about the double-emails -Micah
9.1 Installation problems...
OK I've searched the archives, can't seem to find a fix, so here goes... Alright, I start installing, and it installs all of the packages fine, and then the problems occur. After i have entered the root password, created my password, and set the auto-login, it tries to install the bootloader. At first i get an error box that says: "Installation of bootloader failed. The following error occured: :Cannot create temp file. aborting. ybin: An error occured while building first stage loader. aborting..." After dismissing this box, the following text shows up in the background: "Can't do inplace edit on /mnt/etc/modules.conf: No space left on device at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/MDK/Common/File.pm line 226." Any ideas? -Micah
Re: package installation and
Walt Costanza said: > Which is/are the best (most current) mirrors to use? I use ftp://ftp.sunet.se (pretty good). Bob.
Re: package installation and
Which is/are the best (most current) mirrors to use? On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 11:09 AM, Stew Benedict wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Walt Costanza wrote: I carefully went through the entire app list and tried to add many packages. They then all failed to install for "no signature", including netatalk. Is this just a function of this being rc and not final? Do the the ISOs being built here, and not from the official Paris repository. I could build them from there, but then things would really be broken, as those sources aren't too good. I probably should have reprocessed all the packages and signed them, but I neglected to do so. With the default look and feel windows can only be grabbed from the top and bottom. Not PPC specific I don't believe. Window manager behavior. When gimp installs and also a main page somewhere within "linuxconfig" the defualt screen height is much greater than the 768 of this lcd and many monitors. As a result it is not possible to complete the install of gimp or use the functions from the linuxconfig page untill one figures out how to use "move" because the action buttons are off the bottom of the screen. Many a new user will be completely frustrated by this. A much smaller default window size would be best or at least resizing of windows from top corners on by default. You lost me completely on this one. Gimp here opens with 3 small windows and the "hint" screen. I don't really use linuxconf, as Mandrake's tools provide most of that functionality. Or are you talking about rpmdrake in all this? I uninstalled gimp and linuxconf and reinstalled using rpmdrake, and yes, I observed the gpg signature issue, but at no time during the install was anything off screen (1024x768). This is using KDE. I also removed my ~/.gimp* directory and went back through the initially user setup of gimp, and did not find any windows off screen there either. Unless I'm missing something, linuxconf still looks to be a console app than runs in a terminal, unless you're talking about gnome-linuxconf? Again, that app was fully on-screen here at 1024x768. At any rate, I don't believe any of this is PPC specific. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.freenode.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: package installation and
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Walt Costanza wrote: > I carefully went through the entire app list and tried to add many > packages. They then all failed to install for "no signature", > including netatalk. Is this just a function of this being rc and not > final? > Do the the ISOs being built here, and not from the official Paris repository. I could build them from there, but then things would really be broken, as those sources aren't too good. I probably should have reprocessed all the packages and signed them, but I neglected to do so. > With the default look and feel windows can only be grabbed from the top > and bottom. > Not PPC specific I don't believe. Window manager behavior. > When gimp installs and also a main page somewhere within "linuxconfig" > the defualt screen height is much greater than the 768 of this lcd and > many monitors. As a result it is not possible to complete the install > of gimp or use the functions from the linuxconfig page untill one > figures out how to use "move" because the action buttons are off the > bottom of the screen. Many a new user will be completely frustrated by > this. A much smaller default window size would be best or at least > resizing of windows from top corners on by default. > You lost me completely on this one. Gimp here opens with 3 small windows and the "hint" screen. I don't really use linuxconf, as Mandrake's tools provide most of that functionality. Or are you talking about rpmdrake in all this? I uninstalled gimp and linuxconf and reinstalled using rpmdrake, and yes, I observed the gpg signature issue, but at no time during the install was anything off screen (1024x768). This is using KDE. I also removed my ~/.gimp* directory and went back through the initially user setup of gimp, and did not find any windows off screen there either. Unless I'm missing something, linuxconf still looks to be a console app than runs in a terminal, unless you're talking about gnome-linuxconf? Again, that app was fully on-screen here at 1024x768. At any rate, I don't believe any of this is PPC specific. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.freenode.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
package installation and
I carefully went through the entire app list and tried to add many packages. They then all failed to install for "no signature", including netatalk. Is this just a function of this being rc and not final? With the default look and feel windows can only be grabbed from the top and bottom. When gimp installs and also a main page somewhere within "linuxconfig" the defualt screen height is much greater than the 768 of this lcd and many monitors. As a result it is not possible to complete the install of gimp or use the functions from the linuxconfig page untill one figures out how to use "move" because the action buttons are off the bottom of the screen. Many a new user will be completely frustrated by this. A much smaller default window size would be best or at least resizing of windows from top corners on by default. My 2 cents. Walt Costanza
Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Alex Horvath wrote: > Stew, > > how difficult would it be to add hfs or FAT32 support to the installer so > you could install off a hard disk in the machine ? > OK - vfat was already in there. Traded it for hfs, as it seems a bit more appropriate on Macs. New stage1's should hit the mirrors soon. > I currently use FTP install, but it would be a lot faster to d/l the ISO, > mount it, copy the files to the local drive and install from there. > > Just a though. BTW, thanks for the info on URPMI > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "cooker-ppc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:49 AM > Subject: Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige > > > Stew Benedict ha scritto: > > >On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > >There is no seperate installer for Old World machines. don't use the > >kernel, nor all.gz in the .sit file, use the ones in /boot. I had not yet > >updated the .sit file in RC1 (notice everything reference 8.2?). > > > > > Ok. Lost time, so :-( > > > > > > >>- No other kernel in the disk can recognize my cd drive (only the old > kernel) > >>- no other kernel recognize the hfs partition to install directly from HD > after > >>a copy of the distribution > >> > >> > > > >Never has been able to install from hfs, afaik. > > > > Yes, you're right: this option was possible with YDL kernel > > >I was able to CD install > >on a 7600, after loading mesh. > > Loading? Uh, oh, have you loaded something? During the process install, > the only loaded thing is: "INSMOD FAILED, retry?" > Oh yeah, retry, retry... > None modules can be loaded with the default kernel and his ramdisk :-( > Anyway, my Cd drive is IDE... > > Ok, thanks for your answer, Stew. > > > > > Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.freenode.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Alex Horvath wrote: > Stew, > > how difficult would it be to add hfs or FAT32 support to the installer so > you could install off a hard disk in the machine ? > > I currently use FTP install, but it would be a lot faster to d/l the ISO, > mount it, copy the files to the local drive and install from there. > Fat32 - there are a lot of Macs with Fat32 partitions? It's a little late at this point to start tinkering with the installer, I'm about ready to release the final. Perhaps the next time around. I guess if you've already got the ISO, why not just burn it to CD? It's not a bad idea though, just adds a bit more to the stage1 installer. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.freenode.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige
Stew, how difficult would it be to add hfs or FAT32 support to the installer so you could install off a hard disk in the machine ? I currently use FTP install, but it would be a lot faster to d/l the ISO, mount it, copy the files to the local drive and install from there. Just a though. BTW, thanks for the info on URPMI - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "cooker-ppc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige Stew Benedict ha scritto: >On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >There is no seperate installer for Old World machines. don't use the >kernel, nor all.gz in the .sit file, use the ones in /boot. I had not yet >updated the .sit file in RC1 (notice everything reference 8.2?). > > Ok. Lost time, so :-( > > >>- No other kernel in the disk can recognize my cd drive (only the old kernel) >>- no other kernel recognize the hfs partition to install directly from HD after >>a copy of the distribution >> >> > >Never has been able to install from hfs, afaik. > Yes, you're right: this option was possible with YDL kernel >I was able to CD install >on a 7600, after loading mesh. Loading? Uh, oh, have you loaded something? During the process install, the only loaded thing is: "INSMOD FAILED, retry?" Oh yeah, retry, retry... None modules can be loaded with the default kernel and his ramdisk :-( Anyway, my Cd drive is IDE... Ok, thanks for your answer, Stew.
Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige
Stew Benedict ha scritto: >On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >There is no seperate installer for Old World machines. don't use the >kernel, nor all.gz in the .sit file, use the ones in /boot. I had not yet >updated the .sit file in RC1 (notice everything reference 8.2?). > > Ok. Lost time, so :-( > > >>- No other kernel in the disk can recognize my cd drive (only the old kernel) >>- no other kernel recognize the hfs partition to install directly from HD after >>a copy of the distribution >> >> > >Never has been able to install from hfs, afaik. > Yes, you're right: this option was possible with YDL kernel >I was able to CD install >on a 7600, after loading mesh. Loading? Uh, oh, have you loaded something? During the process install, the only loaded thing is: "INSMOD FAILED, retry?" Oh yeah, retry, retry... None modules can be loaded with the default kernel and his ramdisk :-( Anyway, my Cd drive is IDE... Ok, thanks for your answer, Stew.
Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, folks > > No way to install (or upgrade) to Mdk 9,1 RC1 on my box G3 beige MT 266 (OldWorl). > All the problem that I found: > > - The installer for OldWorld is out of date: still only for Mdk 8,2. > - The kernel for OldWorld machines is 2,4,18, so if you can arrive to boot the > installer, after no way to continue: the installer doesn't find the appropriate > modules on /lib There is no seperate installer for Old World machines. don't use the kernel, nor all.gz in the .sit file, use the ones in /boot. I had not yet updated the .sit file in RC1 (notice everything reference 8.2?). > - No other kernel in the disk can recognize my cd drive (only the old kernel) > - no other kernel recognize the hfs partition to install directly from HD after > a copy of the distribution Never has been able to install from hfs, afaik. I was able to CD install on a 7600, after loading mesh. > - no kernel recognize the ext3 partition for the same purpose > Correct, stage1 only has ext2 support. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.freenode.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Nightmare installation on G3 beige
Hi, folks No way to install (or upgrade) to Mdk 9,1 RC1 on my box G3 beige MT 266 (OldWorl). All the problem that I found: - The installer for OldWorld is out of date: still only for Mdk 8,2. - The kernel for OldWorld machines is 2,4,18, so if you can arrive to boot the installer, after no way to continue: the installer doesn't find the appropriate modules on /lib - No other kernel in the disk can recognize my cd drive (only the old kernel) - no other kernel recognize the hfs partition to install directly from HD after a copy of the distribution - no kernel recognize the ext3 partition for the same purpose I have experimented all that I can: no result. After a night of nightmare: stop, basta. Happy sunday ;-) Salvatore Comito
installation feedback
Hi PPC-cookers! I just installed Mandrake 8.2 on my iMac DV 400 (slot loading). The install process was easy to follow except that the keyboard went mad at the end of it. I was quite impressed with hardware recognition, which is *much* better than what I had seen in older versions of Yellow Dog and LinuxPPC. It's a pity that I had to tweak XFConfig quite a bit before I could use X. Anyway, it seems that I will endly be able to use my Epson Printer-Scanner-Photocopying machine and my usb burner without much trouble. Howerver, I still have a few problems that I could not solve. I will put them in separate mails to allow better tracking. Matthieu
Re: installation beta 1 on iMac 400 DV
Pozsar Balazs wrote: On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 08:20:47PM +0100, Jeroen Diederen wrote: Hi all, I installed beta1 on my iMac 400 MHz DV today. Here are my results: Do you mean 9.1-beta1? Where can I download it from? thanks, on all the mandrake-iso mirrors, like ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Mandrake-iso/ppc
Re: installation beta 1 on iMac 400 DV
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 08:20:47PM +0100, Jeroen Diederen wrote: > Hi all, > > I installed beta1 on my iMac 400 MHz DV today. Here are my results: Do you mean 9.1-beta1? Where can I download it from? thanks, -- pozsy
installation beta 1 on iMac 400 DV
Hi all, I installed beta1 on my iMac 400 MHz DV today. Here are my results: I used the install-gui gui-old video=atyfb128 and this worked as expected. I did a recommended install, I opted the office, documentation, development, dutch language in beginning. Almost everything worked during installation. At the end, when X had to be configured I had a freeze when testing 1024x768 and 16bpp. The test page looked ok , I pressed ENTER and bam. Big black screen, everything froze down. After reboot I had a few problems: 1. I had no internet connection. Module gmac was not present. After loading this module and a simple ifup eth0, internet worked. 2. Mandrake control center does not work 3. There is no dutch language in e.g. KDE If I find more issues, I will post them here. Jeroen Diederen
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 697] [Installation] New: install fails on packageinstallation step (fwd)
FYI
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Date: 23 Dec 2002 13:35:32 +0100
From: Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Cooker] [Bug 697] [Installation] New: install fails on package
installation step
"[Bug 697]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=697
>
>Product: Installation
> Component: Installation
> Summary: install fails on package installation step
>Version: 1.759
> Platform: Other
> OS/Version: All
> Status: UNCONFIRMED
> Severity: normal
> Priority: P2
> AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> Installing a new cooker system fails just after starting to install
> the packages. It reads the first 50 header files, and then stops giving this
> output (on- third terminal I think it's called):
> --
> error ordering package list: (no errror) at /usr/bin/perl-install/pkgs.pm line
> 996
soon will be fixed by a new glibc
@product=glibc
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Re: Installation crashed, kernel exception
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Brent Hasty wrote: > I mirrored ftp.sunet.se lat night seem to be much more complete, 2.5 GB > > I have not run gendistrib on these yet, what is the proper procedure for doing > so? > There is a README in the same place you got the ISO that goes through the whole process. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: Installation crashed, kernel exception
On Saturday 21 December 2002 02:56 am, Stew Benedict wrote: > On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Brent Hasty wrote: > > On Friday 20 December 2002 07:00 pm, Stew Benedict wrote: > > I copied the the key files from cd to my ppc directory I will be doing > > the ftp install from, this time the ftp worked, launched the graphical > > installer, progressed to the point of installing packages then ran into > > this... > > > > When statring to load the packages, the installer is unable to locate > > glibc-2.2.5-20mdk.ppc > > > > I checked in the directory I mirrored (about 800 MB of rpms) and that > > specific file is not there, though there are a couple of glibc-lsb rpm > > files. > > > > I just checked rpmfind.net and my directory is a duplicate of theres, no > > glibc-2.2.5-20mdk.ppc there either. > > > > again the directory on rpm find I mirrored is > > /linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc > > > > Do I need to get the SRPMS? > > No, you don't need SRPMS, but you do need a LOT more RPMS. > > [stew@rs6000 RPMS]$ du -h . > 2.3G. > > And you definitely want glibc. 800MB is nowhere near a full respository of > the typical 3 CDs of main. > > When you run gendistrib (you did do this right?), look at the output. You > need to decide whether the messages it gives (if any) are important. > > PS: you don't need to CC me - I read the list and I get LOTS of mail > already, I don't need two copies of everything. > > Stew Benedict I mirrored ftp.sunet.se lat night seem to be much more complete, 2.5 GB I have not run gendistrib on these yet, what is the proper procedure for doing so? -- 8:58am up 14:29, 5 users, load average: 0.40, 0.41, 0.44
Re: Installation crashed, kernel exception
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Brent Hasty wrote: > On Friday 20 December 2002 07:00 pm, Stew Benedict wrote: > I copied the the key files from cd to my ppc directory I will be doing the ftp > install from, this time the ftp worked, launched the graphical installer, > progressed to the point of installing packages then ran into this... > > When statring to load the packages, the installer is unable to locate > glibc-2.2.5-20mdk.ppc > > I checked in the directory I mirrored (about 800 MB of rpms) and that specific > file is not there, though there are a couple of glibc-lsb rpm files. > > I just checked rpmfind.net and my directory is a duplicate of theres, no > glibc-2.2.5-20mdk.ppc there either. > > again the directory on rpm find I mirrored is > /linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc > > Do I need to get the SRPMS? > No, you don't need SRPMS, but you do need a LOT more RPMS. [stew@rs6000 RPMS]$ du -h . 2.3G. And you definitely want glibc. 800MB is nowhere near a full respository of the typical 3 CDs of main. When you run gendistrib (you did do this right?), look at the output. You need to decide whether the messages it gives (if any) are important. PS: you don't need to CC me - I read the list and I get LOTS of mail already, I don't need two copies of everything. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: Installation crashed, kernel exception
On Friday 20 December 2002 07:00 pm, Stew Benedict wrote: I copied the the key files from cd to my ppc directory I will be doing the ftp install from, this time the ftp worked, launched the graphical installer, progressed to the point of installing packages then ran into this... When statring to load the packages, the installer is unable to locate glibc-2.2.5-20mdk.ppc I checked in the directory I mirrored (about 800 MB of rpms) and that specific file is not there, though there are a couple of glibc-lsb rpm files. I just checked rpmfind.net and my directory is a duplicate of theres, no glibc-2.2.5-20mdk.ppc there either. again the directory on rpm find I mirrored is /linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc Do I need to get the SRPMS? > On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Brent Hasty wrote: > > On Thursday 19 December 2002 03:12 pm, Brent Hasty wrote: > > A continuing saga > > > > What is the proper procedure for using the 9.x-ppc-cooker-install-2.iso > > with the mirrored /linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc on my local network? > > > > I have set up bootX, I have the mandrake install directory on my Mac OS > > 9.1 desktop, therein i have the install mandrake ppc which I can click > > on, I specify all.gz, and set the ramdisk to 3400. > > > > the wallstreet then exits Mac os, the cd spins up and the system begins > > to boot. > > > > the first menue I get to asks about the medium: > > nfs > > ftp > > cdrom > > hard drive > > > > When I select cdrom I can get as far as package installation with a nice > > 9.0 style installation menue, there it freaks out because at under 200 > > mb, the cd obviously does not contain very many packages. > > > > When I select ftp i run into the problem discussed below. > > > > what is my procedural error? > > You don't need to CC me. I follow the list. Although CD is offered, as > it's a stock install, it's not a true option with this pre-beta ISO. > It doesn't sound to me like you're doing anything wrong prodedurally. > If stage2 loads successfully from CD, but not from you network, I would > next suspect corruption at the network source. > > Stew Benedict -- 7:43pm up 1:14, 4 users, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
Re: Installation crashed, kernel exception
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Brent Hasty wrote: > On Thursday 19 December 2002 03:12 pm, Brent Hasty wrote: > A continuing saga > > What is the proper procedure for using the 9.x-ppc-cooker-install-2.iso with > the mirrored /linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc on my local network? > > I have set up bootX, I have the mandrake install directory on my Mac OS 9.1 > desktop, therein i have the install mandrake ppc which I can click on, I > specify all.gz, and set the ramdisk to 3400. > > the wallstreet then exits Mac os, the cd spins up and the system begins to > boot. > > the first menue I get to asks about the medium: > nfs > ftp > cdrom > hard drive > > When I select cdrom I can get as far as package installation with a nice 9.0 > style installation menue, there it freaks out because at under 200 mb, the cd > obviously does not contain very many packages. > > When I select ftp i run into the problem discussed below. > > what is my procedural error? > You don't need to CC me. I follow the list. Although CD is offered, as it's a stock install, it's not a true option with this pre-beta ISO. It doesn't sound to me like you're doing anything wrong prodedurally. If stage2 loads successfully from CD, but not from you network, I would next suspect corruption at the network source. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: Installation crashed, kernel exception
On Thursday 19 December 2002 03:12 pm, Brent Hasty wrote: A continuing saga What is the proper procedure for using the 9.x-ppc-cooker-install-2.iso with the mirrored /linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc on my local network? I have set up bootX, I have the mandrake install directory on my Mac OS 9.1 desktop, therein i have the install mandrake ppc which I can click on, I specify all.gz, and set the ramdisk to 3400. the wallstreet then exits Mac os, the cd spins up and the system begins to boot. the first menue I get to asks about the medium: nfs ftp cdrom hard drive When I select cdrom I can get as far as package installation with a nice 9.0 style installation menue, there it freaks out because at under 200 mb, the cd obviously does not contain very many packages. When I select ftp i run into the problem discussed below. what is my procedural error? > Using the 9.x-ppc-cooker-install-2.iso, about 200 mb, and ftp to a server > containging /linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc on my local network. > > Following the instructions, I setup bootX and began installation on my > powerbook wallstreet I. > > Installation procedes, it doesnot detect the builtin lan on this G3, I > specifi the kernel module and setup static ip, the network initalized, > specified ftp as the source, directed it to the proper location and it > promptly began the download of the mdkinst_stage2.bz2, the progress bar > gets to about 99% complete > then I get an > > Oops: Exception in kernel mode, sig: 4 > and a bunch of other stuff > > install exited abnormally :-( -- received signal 4 > you may safely reboot. > > Any clues whats crashing the install? -- 6:32pm up 3 min, 3 users, load average: 0.63, 0.45, 0.18
Re: Installation crashed, kernel exception
On Thursday 19 December 2002 03:24 pm, Stew Benedict wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Brent Hasty wrote: > > Using the 9.x-ppc-cooker-install-2.iso, about 200 mb, and ftp to a server > > containging /linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc on my local network. > > > > Following the instructions, I setup bootX and began installation on my > > powerbook wallstreet I. > > > > Installation procedes, it doesnot detect the builtin lan on this G3, I > > specifi the kernel module and setup static ip, the network initalized, > > specified ftp as the source, directed it to the proper location and it > > promptly began the download of the mdkinst_stage2.bz2, the progress bar > > gets to about 99% complete > > then I get an > > > > Oops: Exception in kernel mode, sig: 4 > > and a bunch of other stuff > > > > install exited abnormally :-( -- received signal 4 > > you may safely reboot. > > You set ramdisk_size=34000? > Stage1 never does detect the Mac ethernet adapters automagically. > > Stew Benedict yes I did set the ramdisk size to 34000 the system is left completly unresponsive, I end up pulling power and battery to reboot. I cannot ctrl alt F key to see any of the other comments that print to screen after the lock up -- 6:21pm up 21:24, 9 users, load average: 0.09, 0.04, 0.01
Re: Installation crashed, kernel exception
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Brent Hasty wrote: > Using the 9.x-ppc-cooker-install-2.iso, about 200 mb, and ftp to a server > containging /linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc on my local network. > > Following the instructions, I setup bootX and began installation on my > powerbook wallstreet I. > > Installation procedes, it doesnot detect the builtin lan on this G3, I specifi > the kernel module and setup static ip, the network initalized, specified ftp > as the source, directed it to the proper location and it promptly began the > download of the mdkinst_stage2.bz2, the progress bar gets to about 99% > complete > then I get an > > Oops: Exception in kernel mode, sig: 4 > and a bunch of other stuff > > install exited abnormally :-( -- received signal 4 > you may safely reboot. > You set ramdisk_size=34000? Stage1 never does detect the Mac ethernet adapters automagically. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Installation crashed, kernel exception
Using the 9.x-ppc-cooker-install-2.iso, about 200 mb, and ftp to a server containging /linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc on my local network. Following the instructions, I setup bootX and began installation on my powerbook wallstreet I. Installation procedes, it doesnot detect the builtin lan on this G3, I specifi the kernel module and setup static ip, the network initalized, specified ftp as the source, directed it to the proper location and it promptly began the download of the mdkinst_stage2.bz2, the progress bar gets to about 99% complete then I get an Oops: Exception in kernel mode, sig: 4 and a bunch of other stuff install exited abnormally :-( -- received signal 4 you may safely reboot. Any clues whats crashing the install? -- 3:02pm up 18:05, 10 users, load average: 0.08, 0.09, 0.08
Re: INstallation Issues
Yep, that happened to me last week. I forget what Stew told me - but I printed it out so i could fix it again. (It's a work.) Ask Stew. He knows about this. At 04:13 PM 11/25/02 -0500, you wrote: This occurs with both Mandrake PPC, and Yellow Dog 2.3 Dayton. I can get the installation procedure to complete fine, the only thing of note is that near the end it starts to spit out i/o errors and hex digits. Once it gets past that I follow the prompt to install the bootloader, which according to the installation is performed fine. But then when i try to boot linux, i get to the firststage Bootstrap, strike L for linux, and then get "Loading second stage bootstrap" with a blinking question mark and mac os face. I assume its something simple and i apologize to those who feel this is a waste of your time to read, but i'd like to be a part of this community, and without an OS i'm SOL here are the specs on my comp: 1ghz G4 Dual Mirrored Drive Doors SuperDrive Geforce 4 Ti Pci Ethernet as well as onboard Samnsung 20gb drive on the ata66 string. any questions/help feel free to mail me direct and bypass the board discussion if you see so fit. thanks everyone Ben Schmidt Barry M. Hertzberg On Location Photography 59 Copperleaf Drive Newtown, PA 19840 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.OLPhotography.com Phone / Fax (215) 579-8727 "You Live the Moment - We'll Capture It."
Re: INstallation Issues
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, BEn wrote: > This occurs with both Mandrake PPC, and Yellow Dog 2.3 Dayton. I can get > the installation procedure to complete fine, the only thing of note is that > near the end it starts to spit out i/o errors and hex digits. Once it gets Don't like the sound of the spewing i/o errors and hex digits. > past that I follow the prompt to install the bootloader, which according to > the installation is performed fine. But then when i try to boot linux, i > get to the firststage Bootstrap, strike L for linux, and then get "Loading > second stage bootstrap" with a blinking question mark and mac os face. I > assume its something simple and i apologize to those who feel this is a > waste of your time to read, but i'd like to be a part of this community, > and without an OS i'm SOL Welcome! We'll see if we can get you a working OS. The Mac face sounds odd to me, coming up after the 2nd stage bootloader. Pardon the questions, but I'm trying to get a feel for your partitioning setup. Do you know what partition is used for the bootstrap and linux partitions? It sounds like the OF settings are OK, since you do see part of the bootloader come up. You did by any chance choose to mount the bootstrap as "/boot" under Linux did you? If you can't get to any of this info without running Linux, or from memory, you could boot the rescue image and do some browsing from there. You may find "/" already mounted as /mnt under rescue. > here are the specs on my comp: > 1ghz G4 Dual Mirrored Drive Doors > SuperDrive > Geforce 4 Ti > Pci Ethernet as well as onboard > Samnsung 20gb drive on the ata66 string. > any questions/help feel free to mail me direct and bypass the board > discussion if you see so fit. > thanks everyone > Ben Schmidt > > Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
INstallation Issues
This occurs with both Mandrake PPC, and Yellow Dog 2.3 Dayton. I can get the installation procedure to complete fine, the only thing of note is that near the end it starts to spit out i/o errors and hex digits. Once it gets past that I follow the prompt to install the bootloader, which according to the installation is performed fine. But then when i try to boot linux, i get to the firststage Bootstrap, strike L for linux, and then get "Loading second stage bootstrap" with a blinking question mark and mac os face. I assume its something simple and i apologize to those who feel this is a waste of your time to read, but i'd like to be a part of this community, and without an OS i'm SOL here are the specs on my comp: 1ghz G4 Dual Mirrored Drive Doors SuperDrive Geforce 4 Ti Pci Ethernet as well as onboard Samnsung 20gb drive on the ata66 string. any questions/help feel free to mail me direct and bypass the board discussion if you see so fit. thanks everyone Ben Schmidt
Re: PPC installation problems with GeForce Video Card
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Patrick, Robert W (CAP, CORP) wrote: > > Does anyone have advice on installing Mandrake 8.2PPC on a dual 1Ghz > Mac? > > I have had zero success with installing and using Linux with this > system. > > The system is a Dual 1Ghz Apple (Quicksilver, I think) > > Video card is a Nvidia GeForce4 MX > > And it uses the USB sound system and the sound sticks from Harmon > Kardon. > > Also the flat panel display. > > My two biggest problems that I can as yet identify are: > > Bootstrap/ patitioning > > And video support. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! :-) > > Thanks to all in advance. > > > > P.S. My goal would be to have a Linux only MAC. Not Dual boot... is > that possible? Or must I have a Mac partition first? > We need a few more details on what the problems are to be able to help. You can have a Linux only system, although having a Mac partition on the disk will make things easier. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
PPC installation problems with GeForce Video Card
Does anyone have advice on installing Mandrake 8.2PPC on a dual 1Ghz Mac? I have had zero success with installing and using Linux with this system. The system is a Dual 1Ghz Apple (Quicksilver, I think) Video card is a Nvidia GeForce4 MX And it uses the USB sound system and the sound sticks from Harmon Kardon. Also the flat panel display. My two biggest problems that I can as yet identify are: Bootstrap/ patitioning And video support. Any help would be greatly appreciated! J Thanks to all in advance. P.S. My goal would be to have a Linux only MAC. Not Dual boot… is that possible? Or must I have a Mac partition first?
Re: Successful installation
ah good news i will try my luck next week i will also try my new video card an Pine/XFX GeForce2 MX400 64MB PCI TV-Out its supposed to work with the nv driver tv out should work with nv-tv so fingers crossed cheers Thomas On Wednesday 23 October 2002 21:55, you wrote: > Hi, > > Just wanted to say that with the 'Install ISO' and a local PPC mirror, > Cooker is up and running on my TiBook. > > KDE 3.1 looks great! Thanks Stew and Ben. > > > Bye, > Phil
Successful installation
Hi, Just wanted to say that with the 'Install ISO' and a local PPC mirror, Cooker is up and running on my TiBook. KDE 3.1 looks great! Thanks Stew and Ben. Bye, Phil
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
> > > If you're indeed hitting the 1st 2GB issue. (I forget, is this an old > > > iMac?), OSX on the 1st 7.5GB is the problem. You need 1 MB bootstrap > > > somewhere in the 1st 2GB. > > > > You're a bit off, it's the first 8 GB! > > > > ;-) > > //ernie > > > > > > In that case, then I don't know why yaboot isn't working on that machine. > > Stew Benedict It's not working because there is a 2nd partition immediately after the first, so I have the MacOSX system partition in the first 7.5GB, then a MacOSX Data partition in the next 7.5GB, and THEN the MandrakePPC bootstrap following that (with the remaining Mandrake partitions after the bootstrap)... so the bootstrap is well outside the first 8GB... So I think I'll try removing only the OSX Data partition, then adding the Mandrake bootstrap and go from there to see what happens... Don't know when I'll have time to go at it, but I'll let y'all know. Might be worth a footnote in the documentation... Damon
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Ernst Persson wrote: > > If you're indeed hitting the 1st 2GB issue. (I forget, is this an old > > iMac?), OSX on the 1st 7.5GB is the problem. You need 1 MB bootstrap > > somewhere in the 1st 2GB. > > You're a bit off, it's the first 8 GB! > > ;-) > //ernie > > In that case, then I don't know why yaboot isn't working on that machine. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
> If you're indeed hitting the 1st 2GB issue. (I forget, is this an old > iMac?), OSX on the 1st 7.5GB is the problem. You need 1 MB bootstrap > somewhere in the 1st 2GB. You're a bit off, it's the first 8 GB! ;-) //ernie
Re: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 10:17 AM, Stew Benedict wrote:
>>> If you have devfs=mount in your yaboot, you shouldn't need the links,
>>> they're created dynamically. Otherwise, probably a broken MAKEDEV
>>> or dev
>>> rpm. There was a lot of this occuring during x86 cooker betas.
>>
>> Bingo! I did a fresh-formated-cooker install then I reboot in rescue,
>> change devfs=mount in the yaboot.conf to devfs=nomount, chroot, ybin
>> and... It worked on the next reboot. I'am 100% cooker ! Yé!
>
> Great! I'm not sure why you're seeing the issue with devfs, I was
> running
> it until my machine died, and I think vdanen is too, but he's out of
> town
> and his machine is off at the moment, so I can't check. Perhaps just
> not
> fully up to date packages.
Very sporadic net (and expensive) net access in the mountains but IIRC,
yes, devfs is running... I don't recall changing anything in
yaboot.conf for that. But I used some created ISOs and then did a lot
of cleaning up afterwards to get everything up to speed for
development, so it could very well be an outdated package and/or
missing packages that are causing the problem.
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Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: > yaboot on it's own partition? I thought it was on the /boot partition for > Mandrake PPC? And that the Open Firmware would go to the blessed partition > then get redirected to the /boot where yaboot exists? I'm thinking I'm way > off base here... > bootstrap != /boot One distro did that (LinuxPPC?), and a lot of people assume that, but it's not the case. The bootstrap partition holds only the parts of yaboot needed to boot the machine. /boot is exactly as it would be on x86. The bootstrap is not mounted on the Linux side, and only accessed when you run ybin. Folks that have tried to treat the bootstrap as /boot duing the install end up with a bit of a mess, since we only allocate 1MB for it, and the kernel/initrd generally take up a bit more than that. > Can I ask for partitioning suggestions based on the following info: > OSX on the first 7.5GB > Data on the second 7.5GB > If you're indeed hitting the 1st 2GB issue. (I forget, is this an old iMac?), OSX on the 1st 7.5GB is the problem. You need 1 MB bootstrap somewhere in the 1st 2GB. > >From there my assumption was the "blessed partition" had its own space, a > separate /boot partition of about 40MB was needed, a / partition for the > file system was necessary, the a swap partition for virtual memory. Is that > wrong? Should the /boot and "blessed" partitions be the same? Is that where > I've gone wrong? When I looked at the installer's depiction of the > partitions I could see the two Mac partitions, then the 4 above listed > partitions (with the blessed partition just following the two Mac > partitions)... > The above is correct. A seperate /boot isn't mandatory, but some folks like to share it between Linux installs. A seperate bootstrap, or "blessed" partition is definitely part of our configuration on NewWorld machines. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 08:30:07PM -0600, Damon Garn wrote: > yaboot on it's own partition? I thought it was on the /boot partition for > Mandrake PPC? And that the Open Firmware would go to the blessed partition > then get redirected to the /boot where yaboot exists? I'm thinking I'm way > off base here... > > Can I ask for partitioning suggestions based on the following info: > OSX on the first 7.5GB > Data on the second 7.5GB > > >From there my assumption was the "blessed partition" had its own space, a > separate /boot partition of about 40MB was needed, a / partition for the > file system was necessary, the a swap partition for virtual memory. Is that > wrong? Should the /boot and "blessed" partitions be the same? Is that where > I've gone wrong? When I looked at the installer's depiction of the > partitions I could see the two Mac partitions, then the 4 above listed > partitions (with the blessed partition just following the two Mac > partitions)... /boot is on the / partition for Mandrake PPC. Linux/PPC uses the /boot as the bootstrap. Mandrake uses a small 1MB bootstrap partition and then puts /boot on just the root partition. Just a fundamentally different boot design. Threw me at first too. But as a result yaboot basically gets it's own partition, the bootstrap. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 07:49:51PM -0600, Damon Garn wrote: > Hmm This is an upgraded hd with OSX in the first 7.5GB and a data drive in > the second 7.5GB, with the remaining 15 or so GB being free space (and being > where I am attempting to put the "blessed partition", the /boot partition, > the / partition and the /swap partition... > > How could I get yaboot into the first 2GB without repartitioning? Can it be > installed thru OSX? You can't. Unless there is a utility like Partition Magic for the Mac. But I'm not aware of one.Best way to do it is to leave a 1MB partition on the hard-drive as the first partition. Then use that as your boot strap. Make sure to leave it as Apple_Free. Otherwise the installer won't to cooperate with you and use it. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
yaboot on it's own partition? I thought it was on the /boot partition for Mandrake PPC? And that the Open Firmware would go to the blessed partition then get redirected to the /boot where yaboot exists? I'm thinking I'm way off base here... Can I ask for partitioning suggestions based on the following info: OSX on the first 7.5GB Data on the second 7.5GB >From there my assumption was the "blessed partition" had its own space, a separate /boot partition of about 40MB was needed, a / partition for the file system was necessary, the a swap partition for virtual memory. Is that wrong? Should the /boot and "blessed" partitions be the same? Is that where I've gone wrong? When I looked at the installer's depiction of the partitions I could see the two Mac partitions, then the 4 above listed partitions (with the blessed partition just following the two Mac partitions)... Damon - Original Message - From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:02 PM Subject: Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: > > > Hmm This is an upgraded hd with OSX in the first 7.5GB and a data drive in > > the second 7.5GB, with the remaining 15 or so GB being free space (and being > > where I am attempting to put the "blessed partition", the /boot partition, > > the / partition and the /swap partition... > > > > How could I get yaboot into the first 2GB without repartitioning? Can it be > > installed thru OSX? > > > > No way that I know of. I don't have OSX, but yaboot really should be on > it's own partition, though I've seen folks do workarounds. (check the > linuxppc archives). Problem then becomes doing kernel upgrades when you > can't access it from the Linux side. My preference is to keep the > seperate OS's as seperate as possible. > > > Damon > > - Original Message - > > From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:36 PM > > Subject: Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm maybe I'm too tired to be doing this... I didn't do the chroot /mnt > > > > "correctly" the first time and so my lack of a yaboot wasn't really > > > > accurate. Sorry. Anyway, once I discovered this I (correctly) went to > > the > > > > system's root and verified several things as suggested in previous > > posts: > > > > > > > > 1. yaboot.conf looks "normal" to me; I've reproduced it below: > > > > > > > > #yaboot.conf - generated by Drakx > > > > init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n" > > > > boot=/dev/hda8 > > > > ofboot=hd:8 > > > > delay=30 > > > > timeout=50 > > > > install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot > > > > magicboot=/usr/loca/lib/yaboot/ofboot > > > > enablecdboot > > > > enableofboot > > > > defaultos=linux > > > > default=linux > > > > image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk > > > > label=linux > > > > root=/dev/hda11 > > > > initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img > > > > append=" devfs=mount" > > > > read-only > > > > image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk > > > > label=failsafe > > > > root=/dev/hda11 > > > > initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img > > > > append=" devfs=mount failsafe" > > > > read-only > > > > macos=hd:6 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. ran ybin -v and it confirmed installation and configuration. Output > > as > > > > follows: > > > > > > > > ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated > > > > ybin: installing first stage bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot onto > > > > /dev/hda8 > > > > ybin: installing primary bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot onto > > > > /dev/hda8 > > > > ybin: installing /etc/yaboot.conf onto /dev/hda8 > > > > ybin: Setting attributes on ofboot... > > > > ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot... > > > > ybin: Setting a
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: > Hmm This is an upgraded hd with OSX in the first 7.5GB and a data drive in > the second 7.5GB, with the remaining 15 or so GB being free space (and being > where I am attempting to put the "blessed partition", the /boot partition, > the / partition and the /swap partition... > > How could I get yaboot into the first 2GB without repartitioning? Can it be > installed thru OSX? > No way that I know of. I don't have OSX, but yaboot really should be on it's own partition, though I've seen folks do workarounds. (check the linuxppc archives). Problem then becomes doing kernel upgrades when you can't access it from the Linux side. My preference is to keep the seperate OS's as seperate as possible. > Damon > - Original Message - > From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:36 PM > Subject: Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: > > > > > > > > Hmmm maybe I'm too tired to be doing this... I didn't do the chroot /mnt > > > "correctly" the first time and so my lack of a yaboot wasn't really > > > accurate. Sorry. Anyway, once I discovered this I (correctly) went to > the > > > system's root and verified several things as suggested in previous > posts: > > > > > > 1. yaboot.conf looks "normal" to me; I've reproduced it below: > > > > > > #yaboot.conf - generated by Drakx > > > init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n" > > > boot=/dev/hda8 > > > ofboot=hd:8 > > > delay=30 > > > timeout=50 > > > install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot > > > magicboot=/usr/loca/lib/yaboot/ofboot > > > enablecdboot > > > enableofboot > > > defaultos=linux > > > default=linux > > > image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk > > > label=linux > > > root=/dev/hda11 > > > initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img > > > append=" devfs=mount" > > > read-only > > > image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk > > > label=failsafe > > > root=/dev/hda11 > > > initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img > > > append=" devfs=mount failsafe" > > > read-only > > > macos=hd:6 > > > > > > > > > 2. ran ybin -v and it confirmed installation and configuration. Output > as > > > follows: > > > > > > ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated > > > ybin: installing first stage bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot onto > > > /dev/hda8 > > > ybin: installing primary bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot onto > > > /dev/hda8 > > > ybin: installing /etc/yaboot.conf onto /dev/hda8 > > > ybin: Setting attributes on ofboot... > > > ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot... > > > ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot.conf... > > > ybin: Blessing /dev/hda8 with Holy Penguin Pee... > > > > > > Could the Holy Penguin Pee have shorted out my system? > > > > > > 3. during the rescue mode boot from CD it finds the following: "probable > > > root partition on /dev/hda11 (type ext3)" and "Mounting /dev/hda9 on > > > /mnt/boot type ext2" > > > > > > What about the i386 versions of Linux where the boot info must reside > within > > > the first 1024 cylinders of the drive? > > > Damon > > > > > > > There was a problem on some of the old iMacs where yaboot needed to be in > > the first 2GB? or so. Wasn't much of an issue until folks started > > upgrading them with big drives. > > > > Stew Benedict > > > > -- > > MandrakeSoft > > PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 > > IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc > > > > > > Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
Hmm This is an upgraded hd with OSX in the first 7.5GB and a data drive in the second 7.5GB, with the remaining 15 or so GB being free space (and being where I am attempting to put the "blessed partition", the /boot partition, the / partition and the /swap partition... How could I get yaboot into the first 2GB without repartitioning? Can it be installed thru OSX? Damon - Original Message - From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:36 PM Subject: Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: > > > > > Hmmm maybe I'm too tired to be doing this... I didn't do the chroot /mnt > > "correctly" the first time and so my lack of a yaboot wasn't really > > accurate. Sorry. Anyway, once I discovered this I (correctly) went to the > > system's root and verified several things as suggested in previous posts: > > > > 1. yaboot.conf looks "normal" to me; I've reproduced it below: > > > > #yaboot.conf - generated by Drakx > > init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n" > > boot=/dev/hda8 > > ofboot=hd:8 > > delay=30 > > timeout=50 > > install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot > > magicboot=/usr/loca/lib/yaboot/ofboot > > enablecdboot > > enableofboot > > defaultos=linux > > default=linux > > image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk > > label=linux > > root=/dev/hda11 > > initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img > > append=" devfs=mount" > > read-only > > image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk > > label=failsafe > > root=/dev/hda11 > > initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img > > append=" devfs=mount failsafe" > > read-only > > macos=hd:6 > > > > > > 2. ran ybin -v and it confirmed installation and configuration. Output as > > follows: > > > > ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated > > ybin: installing first stage bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot onto > > /dev/hda8 > > ybin: installing primary bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot onto > > /dev/hda8 > > ybin: installing /etc/yaboot.conf onto /dev/hda8 > > ybin: Setting attributes on ofboot... > > ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot... > > ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot.conf... > > ybin: Blessing /dev/hda8 with Holy Penguin Pee... > > > > Could the Holy Penguin Pee have shorted out my system? > > > > 3. during the rescue mode boot from CD it finds the following: "probable > > root partition on /dev/hda11 (type ext3)" and "Mounting /dev/hda9 on > > /mnt/boot type ext2" > > > > What about the i386 versions of Linux where the boot info must reside within > > the first 1024 cylinders of the drive? > > Damon > > > > There was a problem on some of the old iMacs where yaboot needed to be in > the first 2GB? or so. Wasn't much of an issue until folks started > upgrading them with big drives. > > Stew Benedict > > -- > MandrakeSoft > PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 > IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc > >
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: > > Hmmm maybe I'm too tired to be doing this... I didn't do the chroot /mnt > "correctly" the first time and so my lack of a yaboot wasn't really > accurate. Sorry. Anyway, once I discovered this I (correctly) went to the > system's root and verified several things as suggested in previous posts: > > 1. yaboot.conf looks "normal" to me; I've reproduced it below: > > #yaboot.conf - generated by Drakx > init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n" > boot=/dev/hda8 > ofboot=hd:8 > delay=30 > timeout=50 > install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot > magicboot=/usr/loca/lib/yaboot/ofboot > enablecdboot > enableofboot > defaultos=linux > default=linux > image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk > label=linux > root=/dev/hda11 > initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img > append=" devfs=mount" > read-only > image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk > label=failsafe > root=/dev/hda11 > initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img > append=" devfs=mount failsafe" > read-only > macos=hd:6 > > > 2. ran ybin -v and it confirmed installation and configuration. Output as > follows: > > ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated > ybin: installing first stage bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot onto > /dev/hda8 > ybin: installing primary bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot onto > /dev/hda8 > ybin: installing /etc/yaboot.conf onto /dev/hda8 > ybin: Setting attributes on ofboot... > ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot... > ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot.conf... > ybin: Blessing /dev/hda8 with Holy Penguin Pee... > > Could the Holy Penguin Pee have shorted out my system? > > 3. during the rescue mode boot from CD it finds the following: "probable > root partition on /dev/hda11 (type ext3)" and "Mounting /dev/hda9 on > /mnt/boot type ext2" > > What about the i386 versions of Linux where the boot info must reside within > the first 1024 cylinders of the drive? > Damon > There was a problem on some of the old iMacs where yaboot needed to be in the first 2GB? or so. Wasn't much of an issue until folks started upgrading them with big drives. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
Hmmm maybe I'm too tired to be doing this... I didn't do the chroot /mnt "correctly" the first time and so my lack of a yaboot wasn't really accurate. Sorry. Anyway, once I discovered this I (correctly) went to the system's root and verified several things as suggested in previous posts: 1. yaboot.conf looks "normal" to me; I've reproduced it below: #yaboot.conf - generated by Drakx init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n" boot=/dev/hda8 ofboot=hd:8 delay=30 timeout=50 install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot magicboot=/usr/loca/lib/yaboot/ofboot enablecdboot enableofboot defaultos=linux default=linux image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk label=linux root=/dev/hda11 initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img append=" devfs=mount" read-only image=hd:9,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk label=failsafe root=/dev/hda11 initrd=hda:9,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img append=" devfs=mount failsafe" read-only macos=hd:6 2. ran ybin -v and it confirmed installation and configuration. Output as follows: ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated ybin: installing first stage bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot onto /dev/hda8 ybin: installing primary bootstrap /usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot onto /dev/hda8 ybin: installing /etc/yaboot.conf onto /dev/hda8 ybin: Setting attributes on ofboot... ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot... ybin: Setting attributes on yaboot.conf... ybin: Blessing /dev/hda8 with Holy Penguin Pee... Could the Holy Penguin Pee have shorted out my system? 3. during the rescue mode boot from CD it finds the following: "probable root partition on /dev/hda11 (type ext3)" and "Mounting /dev/hda9 on /mnt/boot type ext2" What about the i386 versions of Linux where the boot info must reside within the first 1024 cylinders of the drive? Damon > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote: > > > Okay, here's what I've discovered. Booted to rescue mode, did the chroot and > > I have NO yaboot.conf in my /etc/ directory! It would appear that I don't > > have a valid boot loader installed at all. I haven't been able to find a way > > to install it. When I mess with ybin I keep getting an error indicating I > > need to "specify the deive for the bootstrap partition in the form > > boot=/dev/hdaX" - that device should be hda8 according to the Mandrake setup > > that shows the "blessed" bootstrap partition as 8. What can I do to get > > yaboot going? > > > > To sum up, it appears that the Open Firmware is going to the right partition > > and not finding boot info... > > > > I'm pretty sure this is a dumb question, but can I run grub instead? > > Damon > > Nope - can't use grub. This should get you going - edit appropriately and > make sure the kernel and initrd referenced are in /boot. This is a new > one, don't think I've seen anyone report this before. > > #yaboot.conf - generated by DrakX > init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n" > boot=/dev/hda6 > ofboot=hd:6 > delay=30 > timeout=50 > install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot > magicboot=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot > enablecdboot > enableofboot > defaultos=linux > default=linux > image=hd:7,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk > label=linux > root=/dev/hda14 > initrd=hd:7,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img > append=" devfs=mount" > read-only > > > > > > On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Damon Garn wrote: > > > > [...] > > >> Attempted the following: > > >> 1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the > > >> designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then > > >> 'shut-down' > > > > > > What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this? /boot? the apple > > > bootstrap?) > > > > > > [This was the designated partition identified by the M8.2 install as > > > the > > > "blessed partition" where the normal startup would go to look for the > > > boot > > > manager (as I understand the process). The expert mode setup said to > > > write > > > that partition number down and use the above process in case of a > > > failed > > > boot. The OSX partitions are previous to that and the 3 Linux > > > partitions I > > > created follow it. ] > > > > > > Ok, so you went into OF and did a "setenv boot-device hd:8,\\:tbxi"? > > (
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Damon Garn wrote:
> Okay, here's what I've discovered. Booted to rescue mode, did the chroot and
> I have NO yaboot.conf in my /etc/ directory! It would appear that I don't
> have a valid boot loader installed at all. I haven't been able to find a way
> to install it. When I mess with ybin I keep getting an error indicating I
> need to "specify the deive for the bootstrap partition in the form
> boot=/dev/hdaX" - that device should be hda8 according to the Mandrake setup
> that shows the "blessed" bootstrap partition as 8. What can I do to get
> yaboot going?
>
> To sum up, it appears that the Open Firmware is going to the right partition
> and not finding boot info...
>
> I'm pretty sure this is a dumb question, but can I run grub instead?
> Damon
Nope - can't use grub. This should get you going - edit appropriately and
make sure the kernel and initrd referenced are in /boot. This is a new
one, don't think I've seen anyone report this before.
#yaboot.conf - generated by DrakX
init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n"
boot=/dev/hda6
ofboot=hd:6
delay=30
timeout=50
install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot
magicboot=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot
enablecdboot
enableofboot
defaultos=linux
default=linux
image=hd:7,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk
label=linux
root=/dev/hda14
initrd=hd:7,/initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img
append=" devfs=mount"
read-only
>
> On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Damon Garn wrote:
>
> [...]
> >> Attempted the following:
> >> 1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the
> >> designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then
> >> 'shut-down'
> >
> > What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this? /boot? the apple
> > bootstrap?)
> >
> > [This was the designated partition identified by the M8.2 install as
> > the
> > "blessed partition" where the normal startup would go to look for the
> > boot
> > manager (as I understand the process). The expert mode setup said to
> > write
> > that partition number down and use the above process in case of a
> > failed
> > boot. The OSX partitions are previous to that and the 3 Linux
> > partitions I
> > created follow it. ]
>
>
> Ok, so you went into OF and did a "setenv boot-device hd:8,\\:tbxi"?
> (My syntax could be slightly off). I had to do this last night myself,
> booting from an 8.2 install CD into rescue mode and running ybin in
> chroot as I booted into OS X and changed the startup disk to boot into
> OS9 so I could upgrade the version of palmos on my palm. Does
> "printenv boot-device" show the correct thing?
>
> I'm not really sure what else to suggest. The strangest behaviour I've
> got is when turning on my G4 (after it's been off), it loads up a grey
> screen and stalls, and I have to power down again. Once I power up the
> second time, ybin comes up just fine for me.
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/
> "lynx - source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import"
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>
>
>
>
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Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
Okay, here's what I've discovered. Booted to rescue mode, did the chroot and
I have NO yaboot.conf in my /etc/ directory! It would appear that I don't
have a valid boot loader installed at all. I haven't been able to find a way
to install it. When I mess with ybin I keep getting an error indicating I
need to "specify the deive for the bootstrap partition in the form
boot=/dev/hdaX" - that device should be hda8 according to the Mandrake setup
that shows the "blessed" bootstrap partition as 8. What can I do to get
yaboot going?
To sum up, it appears that the Open Firmware is going to the right partition
and not finding boot info...
I'm pretty sure this is a dumb question, but can I run grub instead?
Damon
On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Damon Garn wrote:
[...]
>> Attempted the following:
>> 1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the
>> designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then
>> 'shut-down'
>
> What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this? /boot? the apple
> bootstrap?)
>
> [This was the designated partition identified by the M8.2 install as
> the
> "blessed partition" where the normal startup would go to look for the
> boot
> manager (as I understand the process). The expert mode setup said to
> write
> that partition number down and use the above process in case of a
> failed
> boot. The OSX partitions are previous to that and the 3 Linux
> partitions I
> created follow it. ]
Ok, so you went into OF and did a "setenv boot-device hd:8,\\:tbxi"?
(My syntax could be slightly off). I had to do this last night myself,
booting from an 8.2 install CD into rescue mode and running ybin in
chroot as I booted into OS X and changed the startup disk to boot into
OS9 so I could upgrade the version of palmos on my palm. Does
"printenv boot-device" show the correct thing?
I'm not really sure what else to suggest. The strangest behaviour I've
got is when turning on my G4 (after it's been off), it loads up a grey
screen and stalls, and I have to power down again. Once I power up the
second time, ybin comes up just fine for me.
--
MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/
"lynx - source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import"
{FE6F2AFD: 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD}
Re: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 12:17:11PM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: > Great! I'm not sure why you're seeing the issue with devfs, I was running > it until my machine died, and I think vdanen is too, but he's out of town > and his machine is off at the moment, so I can't check. Perhaps just not > fully up to date packages. I'm using devfs without any problems as well but I'm not running cooker on PPC. I don't think vdanen is either for the same reasons I'm not. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: RE: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If you have devfs=mount in your yaboot, you shouldn't need the links, > > they're created dynamically. Otherwise, probably a broken MAKEDEV or dev > > rpm. There was a lot of this occuring during x86 cooker betas. > > Bingo! I did a fresh-formated-cooker install then I reboot in rescue, change >devfs=mount in the yaboot.conf to devfs=nomount, chroot, ybin and... It worked on the >next reboot. I'am 100% cooker ! Yé! > Great! I'm not sure why you're seeing the issue with devfs, I was running it until my machine died, and I think vdanen is too, but he's out of town and his machine is off at the moment, so I can't check. Perhaps just not fully up to date packages. > Thank you > > So there is effectively a problem with devfs and not the installer. > > > Sounds like you are at least functional then with cooker? Once the > > remaining packages appear, things should get better. > > Any idea when ? Days or weeks ? > No idea. Once I find out, I'll spread the word though :) > Also, I didn't figure out yet what's wrong with the ADSL stuff but it doesn't work. >I just pass by a "ssh" through my PC. > > P. > > I seem to recall x86 having adsl issues also, so you may be inherting the same problem. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: RE: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
> If you have devfs=mount in your yaboot, you shouldn't need the links, > they're created dynamically. Otherwise, probably a broken MAKEDEV or dev > rpm. There was a lot of this occuring during x86 cooker betas. Bingo! I did a fresh-formated-cooker install then I reboot in rescue, change devfs=mount in the yaboot.conf to devfs=nomount, chroot, ybin and... It worked on the next reboot. I'am 100% cooker ! Yé! Thank you So there is effectively a problem with devfs and not the installer. > Sounds like you are at least functional then with cooker? Once the > remaining packages appear, things should get better. Any idea when ? Days or weeks ? Also, I didn't figure out yet what's wrong with the ADSL stuff but it doesn't work. I just pass by a "ssh" through my PC. P.
Re: RE: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I think I'm lost on what you're trying to accomplish. Working 8.2 or > > cooker? As I said, cooker will have issues. I doubt kde or gnome will be > > fully functional, as a number of the needed files are not present on the > > mirrors. You should be able to get a functional command line environment > > though, and probably X with a more basic window manager. > > > > Your other alternative is to use > the 8.2 update packages available on the > > club, to get the newer apps. > > Since a clean cooker install doesn't work for me, I try first to install 8.2 then >upgrade. I don't really want a minimal install (I want X to work at least) but I just >wanted to report the bug with minimal 8.2 --> It crash in text mode. > > For the clean cooker install, the problem seems to be in one of the script during >the installation. When I reboot, there's no hdaxx inside the /dev/ so it can't be >mount. I tried to make a "ln -s" to the /dev/ide/../partxx but doesn't survive a >reboot. Is it a devfs problem ? > If you have devfs=mount in your yaboot, you shouldn't need the links, they're created dynamically. Otherwise, probably a broken MAKEDEV or dev rpm. There was a lot of this occuring during x86 cooker betas. What are you using for the installer for your clean cooker? I know for sure that the installer on the mirrors does not reflect where we ended up at the end of 8.2. > The only problem to install gnome2 seems to be the sgml-common package. It is not >recent enough four the taste of doc-dtd412, so scrollkeeper. So I got a >/etc/xml/catalog missing or empty. > Icewm-light works well but I'm using fbdev. > Sounds like you are at least functional then with cooker? Once the remaining packages appear, things should get better. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: RE: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
> > I think I'm lost on what you're trying to accomplish. Working 8.2 or > cooker? As I said, cooker will have issues. I doubt kde or gnome will be > fully functional, as a number of the needed files are not present on the > mirrors. You should be able to get a functional command line environment > though, and probably X with a more basic window manager. > > Your other alternative is to use the 8.2 update packages available on the > club, to get the newer apps. Since a clean cooker install doesn't work for me, I try first to install 8.2 then upgrade. I don't really want a minimal install (I want X to work at least) but I just wanted to report the bug with minimal 8.2 --> It crash in text mode. For the clean cooker install, the problem seems to be in one of the script during the installation. When I reboot, there's no hdaxx inside the /dev/ so it can't be mount. I tried to make a "ln -s" to the /dev/ide/../partxx but doesn't survive a reboot. Is it a devfs problem ? The only problem to install gnome2 seems to be the sgml-common package. It is not recent enough four the taste of doc-dtd412, so scrollkeeper. So I got a /etc/xml/catalog missing or empty. Icewm-light works well but I'm using fbdev. P.
RE: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Pascal Gagnon wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Vincent Danen wrote: > > > > A couple of problems with what you're trying to do: > > > > 1) The mirrors installer does not reflect the state of the final 8.2 > > installer image. I was never able to update it at the end of the cycle, > > as I don't have direct write access. > > 2) The RPM tree is incomplete, with several rather important files > > missing. Vincent had a certain advantage in that he synced the most > > current stuff directly from me. Explanation for the state of the mirrors > > as far as RPMs is twofold: > > > > a) Some RPMs, though valid versions, were rejected by the upload > > script I use to upload. > > b) Cooker has been frozen, so I haven't uploaded anything since > > Sept 2 or so. > > Can that be source of my installation problems (both 8.2 and from coooker, > see below) ? > Should not have any impact on 8.2 install, if you are using the prebuilt 8.2 ISOs. It will affect a "cooker" install, most definitely. > > Finally, network installs aren't really intended to be done over the > > internet. The idea is to mirror the files locally on your own network, > > and then do an install from your own ftp, http, nfs server. If cooker was > > live, there's a good chance the files would change on you in the middle of > > your install, which would not play out well for your install. > > I finally rsync everything from ftp.ciril.fr (then a gendistrib and al.) to > do a hardrive install. > > > An 8.2 install and updating via urpmi is probably your best bet at this > > point, but you'll still get bitten by point #2 above. Hopefully cooker > > will re-open soon, and I'l be able to clean things up on the mirrors. > > I tried, I tried and I tried. I just don't get how to go over the "glibc" > dependencies without breaking everything. > Any tips ? Should I use "auto-select" or go step by step ? > Glibc just needs a symlink to retain compatiblity with the old apps (the rpm is supposed to do this) lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 11 Sep 12 00:04 /lib/ld.so.1 -> ld-2.2.5.so > > The net boot you were trying to do above requires you to have a local > > tftpserver hosting the kernel images. This is covered in the small guide > > in the doc directory. > > Tried it before. It failed probably because of my earlier openfirmware > problem/corruption. > Doesn't really matter now. > > > Test mode install isn't really that bad. The partitioning is the portion > > that is probably the most different, mostly due to limitations of what you > > can do with a console based app vs. gtk. > > > > > > I agree it's not worst that 5 years ago when I joined this happy > community... > But I get however serious problems, maybe because I'm not a natural ppc guy. > > 1- Individual packages choice doesn't work. I can add/remove but the real > installation don't care. It just go with the "theme" choices (gnome, kde, > office, internet, etc.) If you choose nothing (minimal install) it crash). > So I choose only the "network client" to do a 8.2 minimal install. > > 2- Locales-fr is never installed. I rather get locales-et. So I do a urpme > of -et and urpmi of -fr after the reboot. I can live with this one. > Haven't seen any of these issues until now with 8.2. I don't know that there is really that much of an advantage to doing a minimal install over a normal default install if your intent is to upgrade to cooker. > But: > > 3- Only the "linux native" seems to work in the partitioning (8.2 and > cooker). How should I spell "reiserfs" or "ext3, Ext3, Linux ext3" ? > "reiserfs" and "ext3" passed but I never get the "format, type, resize" > option. Only "create" on a smaller sized partition. If I persit (don't use > create, exit then OK then the "partition to format: hda12, hda13 swap...), I > get "Une erreur est survenue, Le montage a echoue"..."A error occur, fail to > mount: invalid argument". Then I must reboot and start over and choose Linux > native only. > I don't have an install up in front of me, but I take it the text based version doesn't offer the drop down with the filesystem type? > 4- The formating (Linux native) during the COOKER installation seems to > corrupt the fs. On reboot, I get the "do e2fsck -b 8193" etc... No matters > how many e2fsck I tried to do (8193, 16385, ... there or by the rescue CD > reboot) it
RE: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Vincent Danen wrote: > > A couple of problems with what you're trying to do: > > 1) The mirrors installer does not reflect the state of the final 8.2 > installer image. I was never able to update it at the end of the cycle, > as I don't have direct write access. > 2) The RPM tree is incomplete, with several rather important files > missing. Vincent had a certain advantage in that he synced the most > current stuff directly from me. Explanation for the state of the mirrors > as far as RPMs is twofold: > > a) Some RPMs, though valid versions, were rejected by the upload > script I use to upload. > b) Cooker has been frozen, so I haven't uploaded anything since > Sept 2 or so. Can that be source of my installation problems (both 8.2 and from coooker, see below) ? > Finally, network installs aren't really intended to be done over the > internet. The idea is to mirror the files locally on your own network, > and then do an install from your own ftp, http, nfs server. If cooker was > live, there's a good chance the files would change on you in the middle of > your install, which would not play out well for your install. I finally rsync everything from ftp.ciril.fr (then a gendistrib and al.) to do a hardrive install. > An 8.2 install and updating via urpmi is probably your best bet at this > point, but you'll still get bitten by point #2 above. Hopefully cooker > will re-open soon, and I'l be able to clean things up on the mirrors. I tried, I tried and I tried. I just don't get how to go over the "glibc" dependencies without breaking everything. Any tips ? Should I use "auto-select" or go step by step ? > The net boot you were trying to do above requires you to have a local > tftpserver hosting the kernel images. This is covered in the small guide > in the doc directory. Tried it before. It failed probably because of my earlier openfirmware problem/corruption. Doesn't really matter now. > Test mode install isn't really that bad. The partitioning is the portion > that is probably the most different, mostly due to limitations of what you > can do with a console based app vs. gtk. I agree it's not worst that 5 years ago when I joined this happy community... But I get however serious problems, maybe because I'm not a natural ppc guy. 1- Individual packages choice doesn't work. I can add/remove but the real installation don't care. It just go with the "theme" choices (gnome, kde, office, internet, etc.) If you choose nothing (minimal install) it crash). So I choose only the "network client" to do a 8.2 minimal install. 2- Locales-fr is never installed. I rather get locales-et. So I do a urpme of -et and urpmi of -fr after the reboot. I can live with this one. But: 3- Only the "linux native" seems to work in the partitioning (8.2 and cooker). How should I spell "reiserfs" or "ext3, Ext3, Linux ext3" ? "reiserfs" and "ext3" passed but I never get the "format, type, resize" option. Only "create" on a smaller sized partition. If I persit (don't use create, exit then OK then the "partition to format: hda12, hda13 swap...), I get "Une erreur est survenue, Le montage a echoue"..."A error occur, fail to mount: invalid argument". Then I must reboot and start over and choose Linux native only. 4- The formating (Linux native) during the COOKER installation seems to corrupt the fs. On reboot, I get the "do e2fsck -b 8193" etc... No matters how many e2fsck I tried to do (8193, 16385, ... there or by the rescue CD reboot) it stay unbootable. So I guess I must do a "upgrade install" or a full-install-without-reformatting from 8.2 to cooker... I do it with the "theme" gnome this time. 5- With the "Full-install-without-reformatting" I can't get X to works. It worked with 8.2. It don't like the mix of the new2.4.19 with X4.2 with r128 (ati rage 128 mobility) I guess. "(EE)(R128) Could not... V_BIOS (5)" stuff By googling a little, I tried many thing. The only that works (a little) is to do: "X -configure" copy the new Xconfigure.new file from /root/ --> /etc/X11/XFconfig-4. Replace "ati" by "fbdev" Replace the mouse "auto" and "/dev/mouse" options by "PS/2" and "/dev/usbmouse". Fire startx. It works (nice red screen with a moving "X") but gnome don't start. What should I do next ? I'm close ain't ? FYI, my "cooker hardrive installation" is in my /home partition (diff that /). P.
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Damon Garn wrote:
[...]
>> Attempted the following:
>> 1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the
>> designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then
>> 'shut-down'
>
> What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this? /boot? the apple
> bootstrap?)
>
> [This was the designated partition identified by the M8.2 install as
> the
> "blessed partition" where the normal startup would go to look for the
> boot
> manager (as I understand the process). The expert mode setup said to
> write
> that partition number down and use the above process in case of a
> failed
> boot. The OSX partitions are previous to that and the 3 Linux
> partitions I
> created follow it. ]
Ok, so you went into OF and did a "setenv boot-device hd:8,\\:tbxi"?
(My syntax could be slightly off). I had to do this last night myself,
booting from an 8.2 install CD into rescue mode and running ybin in
chroot as I booted into OS X and changed the startup disk to boot into
OS9 so I could upgrade the version of palmos on my palm. Does
"printenv boot-device" show the correct thing?
I'm not really sure what else to suggest. The strangest behaviour I've
got is when turning on my G4 (after it's been off), it loads up a grey
screen and stalls, and I have to power down again. Once I power up the
second time, ybin comes up just fine for me.
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Re: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Ben Reser wrote: > On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 06:18:20PM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: > > I could do an installer only ISO, at about 100MB or so. Problem is > > where to host it. We did do this some time back during the 8.0 beta > > period. > > I'll be happy to put it on my Mandrake-ppc tree. This ISO would > certainly be something I'd use. > Excellent Ben. I'm somewhat out of commission at the moment with my hard drive back at IBM for replacement, but I'll take you up on that offer whne it comes back. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 06:18:20PM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: > I could do an installer only ISO, at about 100MB or so. Problem is > where to host it. We did do this some time back during the 8.0 beta > period. I'll be happy to put it on my Mandrake-ppc tree. This ISO would certainly be something I'd use. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
- Original Message -
From: "Vincent Danen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Saturday, September 28, 2002, at 08:17 AM, Damon Garn wrote:
> I've just attempted a Mandrake 8.2ppc install on my iMac266, which is
> already running MacOSX. The expert install sequence appeared to
> succeed correctly (it even reported a successful install). Upon reboot
> I get only a grey screen - no boot loader prompt. The machine sits
> idle from that point, forcing a manual restart.
This is yaboot not working properly most likely.
> Attempted the following:
> 1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the
> designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then
> 'shut-down'
What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this? /boot? the apple
bootstrap?)
[This was the designated partition identified by the M8.2 install as the
"blessed partition" where the normal startup would go to look for the boot
manager (as I understand the process). The expert mode setup said to write
that partition number down and use the above process in case of a failed
boot. The OSX partitions are previous to that and the 3 Linux partitions I
created follow it. ]
> 2. followed the documentation suggestion of resetting the pram with
> cmd-opt-p-r and that allows a successful OSX boot. Apple's Disk
> Utility continues to show the two 7.8GB OSX partitions I had as well
> as a greyed-out "bootstrap" partition (I suspect this to be the
> "blessed partition"). No Linux partitions show (is it normal for them
> not to show?). I requested /boot at 45MB, / at 10GB, /swap at 400MB
> and it claimed to be building them. I requested ext3 for the /
> partition, if it matters.
No, OS X will not show the Linux partitions. Unfortunately. =)
> 3. Subscribed to this list. :)
Good move... =)
> No funky hardware - all is stock except for the larger hard drive I
> installed a year or so ago, which I had left with free space so I
> could try this very thing.
My mind is fuzzy, so I'm probably not too much help, but if you can
provide the details of /dev/hda8 that'd be great.
[See above - designated by Mandrake installer as location of boot manager.]
The other option might be to boot off the 8.2 install CD into rescue
mode, then chroot your root partition (usually automatically mounted in
/mnt, so do "chroot /mnt") and check your /etc/yaboot.conf file to make
sure it looks ok. Also try running "ybin -v" to regenerate the
bootstrap stuff.
The other option, that I've encountered on my newer G4 imac, is I've
had to power down the imac after getting it stalling like you describe,
but on the next power up yaboot always comes up fine. So for me it's
just a nuisance.
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Re: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Vincent Danen wrote: > > On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 10:59 AM, Pascal Gagnon wrote: > > >> Re-burn the 8.2 install CD and boot from it. You should be able to > >> tell it to do FTP, NFS, etc. installs and this might work (I can't be > >> 100% sure as it might still be looking for 8.2 packages). > > > > I re-burn the 8.2 install CD. Still didn't boot. After some google > > research, > > i did a full-reset of openfimware. The 8.2 install CD did boot but i > > can't > > do any other installation that "install-text". > > Do the install in text mode then. I know it's a PITA, but it was the > only way I could get 8.2 and cooker to install on my G4 lamp. > > > All the video installation finish by a black with blue vertical line > > screen > > and the > > Install-net-* (text, text-2.2...) gives me this error: > > "enet:0:2,\\vmlinux: Unknown or corrupt filesystem" > > or > > "enet:0:2,\\vmlinux-2.2: Unknown or corrupt filesystem" > > Never tried a 2.2-based install myself, but I would really think you > need to go with a 2.4 install (or at least you should). > > > Guess I'll try once again to do a minimal 8.2 install then urpmi > > everything > > from cooker. > > Didn't work a month ago but now maybe... > > You may have some cleaning up to do (I did), but now the machine works > quite well, aside from some other quirks. > > >> Something to try. I made a 2 CD set for cooker PPC and installed it > >> using text mode. You could try the same thing. > > > > Been there, tried that. Perl (version) and free space problems I > > think. I > > gived up and I deleted everything since then and I could not afford to > > rsync > > 2Gig again (bandwidth quota) just to retry. > > > > Any simple and minimal image available (like the network.img for i586) > > for > > ppc just to start a ftp installation ? > > I don't know. Someone else might (Stew?) but I have no clue on that. > I could do an installer only ISO, at about 100MB or so. Problem is where to host it. We did do this some time back during the 8.0 beta period. A couple of problems with what you're trying to do: 1) The mirrors installer does not reflect the state of the final 8.2 installer image. I was never able to update it at the end of the cycle, as I don't have direct write access. 2) The RPM tree is incomplete, with several rather important files missing. Vincent had a certain advantage in that he synced the most current stuff directly from me. Explanation for the state of the mirrors as far as RPMs is twofold: a) Some RPMs, though valid versions, were rejected by the upload script I use to upload. b) Cooker has been frozen, so I haven't uploaded anything since Sept 2 or so. Finally, network installs aren't really intended to be done over the internet. The idea is to mirror the files locally on your own network, and then do an install from your own ftp, http, nfs server. If cooker was live, there's a good chance the files would change on you in the middle of your install, which would not play out well for your install. An 8.2 install and updating via urpmi is probably your best bet at this point, but you'll still get bitten by point #2 above. Hopefully cooker will re-open soon, and I'l be able to clean things up on the mirrors. The net boot you were trying to do above requires you to have a local tftpserver hosting the kernel images. This is covered in the small guide in the doc directory. Test mode install isn't really that bad. The partitioning is the portion that is probably the most different, mostly due to limitations of what you can do with a console based app vs. gtk. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 11:21 AM, Pascal Gagnon wrote:
> If I try a "install-text" then a "ftp server" with ADSL I get:
>
> "needs ppp_generic
> file-not-found-in-archive ppp_generic.o
> warning, insmod failed (ppp_generic (null)) (2)
> have to insmod ppp_async
> needs ppp_async
> file-not-found-in-archive ppp_async.o
> warning, insmod failed (ppp_async (null)) (2)
> have to insmod ppp
> needs ppp
> file-not-found-in-archive ppp.o
> warning, insmod failed (ppp (null)) (2)
> PPP:
> execve of /sbin/pppd failed: No such file or directory"
>
> Same thing with the "http server"
You're doing PPPoE? I've not done that, but it sounds like you might
not be able to do it (ie. the ppp server/client can't be run) over the
network at all. Is it possible to do a hdd install maybe?
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Re: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 10:59 AM, Pascal Gagnon wrote:
>> Re-burn the 8.2 install CD and boot from it. You should be able to
>> tell it to do FTP, NFS, etc. installs and this might work (I can't be
>> 100% sure as it might still be looking for 8.2 packages).
>
> I re-burn the 8.2 install CD. Still didn't boot. After some google
> research,
> i did a full-reset of openfimware. The 8.2 install CD did boot but i
> can't
> do any other installation that "install-text".
Do the install in text mode then. I know it's a PITA, but it was the
only way I could get 8.2 and cooker to install on my G4 lamp.
> All the video installation finish by a black with blue vertical line
> screen
> and the
> Install-net-* (text, text-2.2...) gives me this error:
> "enet:0:2,\\vmlinux: Unknown or corrupt filesystem"
> or
> "enet:0:2,\\vmlinux-2.2: Unknown or corrupt filesystem"
Never tried a 2.2-based install myself, but I would really think you
need to go with a 2.4 install (or at least you should).
> Guess I'll try once again to do a minimal 8.2 install then urpmi
> everything
> from cooker.
> Didn't work a month ago but now maybe...
You may have some cleaning up to do (I did), but now the machine works
quite well, aside from some other quirks.
>> Something to try. I made a 2 CD set for cooker PPC and installed it
>> using text mode. You could try the same thing.
>
> Been there, tried that. Perl (version) and free space problems I
> think. I
> gived up and I deleted everything since then and I could not afford to
> rsync
> 2Gig again (bandwidth quota) just to retry.
>
> Any simple and minimal image available (like the network.img for i586)
> for
> ppc just to start a ftp installation ?
I don't know. Someone else might (Stew?) but I have no clue on that.
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RE: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
If I try a "install-text" then a "ftp server" with ADSL I get: "needs ppp_generic file-not-found-in-archive ppp_generic.o warning, insmod failed (ppp_generic (null)) (2) have to insmod ppp_async needs ppp_async file-not-found-in-archive ppp_async.o warning, insmod failed (ppp_async (null)) (2) have to insmod ppp needs ppp file-not-found-in-archive ppp.o warning, insmod failed (ppp (null)) (2) PPP: execve of /sbin/pppd failed: No such file or directory" Same thing with the "http server" P. Notice: About to load > -Message d'origine- > De : Pascal Gagnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Envoyé : 29 septembre, 2002 12:59 > À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : RE: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless. > > > > > Re-burn the 8.2 install CD and boot from it. You should be able to > > tell it to do FTP, NFS, etc. installs and this might work (I can't be > > 100% sure as it might still be looking for 8.2 packages). > > I re-burn the 8.2 install CD. Still didn't boot. After some > google research, i did a full-reset of openfimware. The 8.2 > install CD did boot but i can't do any other installation that > "install-text". > > All the video installation finish by a black with blue vertical > line screen and the > Install-net-* (text, text-2.2...) gives me this error: > "enet:0:2,\\vmlinux: Unknown or corrupt filesystem" > or > "enet:0:2,\\vmlinux-2.2: Unknown or corrupt filesystem" > > Guess I'll try once again to do a minimal 8.2 install then urpmi > everything from cooker. > Didn't work a month ago but now maybe... > > >Something to try. I made a 2 CD set for cooker PPC and installed it > >using text mode. You could try the same thing. > > Been there, tried that. Perl (version) and free space problems I > think. I gived up and I deleted everything since then and I could > not afford to rsync 2Gig again (bandwidth quota) just to retry. > > Any simple and minimal image available (like the network.img for > i586) for ppc just to start a ftp installation ? > > P.
RE: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
> Re-burn the 8.2 install CD and boot from it. You should be able to > tell it to do FTP, NFS, etc. installs and this might work (I can't be > 100% sure as it might still be looking for 8.2 packages). I re-burn the 8.2 install CD. Still didn't boot. After some google research, i did a full-reset of openfimware. The 8.2 install CD did boot but i can't do any other installation that "install-text". All the video installation finish by a black with blue vertical line screen and the Install-net-* (text, text-2.2...) gives me this error: "enet:0:2,\\vmlinux: Unknown or corrupt filesystem" or "enet:0:2,\\vmlinux-2.2: Unknown or corrupt filesystem" Guess I'll try once again to do a minimal 8.2 install then urpmi everything from cooker. Didn't work a month ago but now maybe... >Something to try. I made a 2 CD set for cooker PPC and installed it >using text mode. You could try the same thing. Been there, tried that. Perl (version) and free space problems I think. I gived up and I deleted everything since then and I could not afford to rsync 2Gig again (bandwidth quota) just to retry. Any simple and minimal image available (like the network.img for i586) for ppc just to start a ftp installation ? P.
Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
I really would like to bring gnome2 and other mdk9 stuff on my girlfriends iBook 366. Is it possible to burn a simple install-image on a CD (like for a floppy) to make a ftp install (to download only the necessary) or network (from my pc). I already tried to make complete package and all image (2 or 3 CD set) from cooker without success. Played around with DHCP-tftp for a direct net-boot without success yet. Tried to install 8.2 then urpmi everything from cooker. Didn't either. And my 8.2-install cd don't want to boot anymore (don't know if CD or openfirmware problem). But I was only able to do "install-text" Shes getting tired and I frustrated. There must be a not too complicated way ? I can burn CD from Roxio Easy CD under W2K or linux mdk9 on my pc. I just down know what and how to burn to make it work (bootable cd with good kernel revision). I already wasted enough CD and play with mkppc script to finally write this message. Anyone around who install mdk 9 (cooker) for a ibook ? Please someone help A mandrake user since 7.0 Pascal
Re: Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
On Saturday, September 28, 2002, at 11:02 AM, Pascal Gagnon wrote:
> I really would like to bring gnome2 and other mdk9 stuff on my
> girlfriends iBook 366.
> Is it possible to burn a simple install-image on a CD (like for a
> floppy) to make a ftp install (to download only the necessary)or
> network (from my pc).
Re-burn the 8.2 install CD and boot from it. You should be able to
tell it to do FTP, NFS, etc. installs and this might work (I can't be
100% sure as it might still be looking for 8.2 packages).
Something to try. I made a 2 CD set for cooker PPC and installed it
using text mode. You could try the same thing.
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Re: iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
On Saturday, September 28, 2002, at 08:17 AM, Damon Garn wrote:
> I've just attempted a Mandrake 8.2ppc install on my iMac266, which is
> already running MacOSX. The expert install sequence appeared to
> succeed correctly (it even reported a successful install). Upon reboot
> I get only a grey screen - no boot loader prompt. The machine sits
> idle from that point, forcing a manual restart.
This is yaboot not working properly most likely.
> Attempted the following:
> 1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the
> designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then
> 'shut-down'
What is /dev/hda8 (ie. what partition is this? /boot? the apple
bootstrap?)
> 2. followed the documentation suggestion of resetting the pram with
> cmd-opt-p-r and that allows a successful OSX boot. Apple's Disk
> Utility continues to show the two 7.8GB OSX partitions I had as well
> as a greyed-out "bootstrap" partition (I suspect this to be the
> "blessed partition"). No Linux partitions show (is it normal for them
> not to show?). I requested /boot at 45MB, / at 10GB, /swap at 400MB
> and it claimed to be building them. I requested ext3 for the /
> partition, if it matters.
No, OS X will not show the Linux partitions. Unfortunately. =)
> 3. Subscribed to this list. :)
Good move... =)
> No funky hardware - all is stock except for the larger hard drive I
> installed a year or so ago, which I had left with free space so I
> could try this very thing.
My mind is fuzzy, so I'm probably not too much help, but if you can
provide the details of /dev/hda8 that'd be great.
The other option might be to boot off the 8.2 install CD into rescue
mode, then chroot your root partition (usually automatically mounted in
/mnt, so do "chroot /mnt") and check your /etc/yaboot.conf file to make
sure it looks ok. Also try running "ybin -v" to regenerate the
bootstrap stuff.
The other option, that I've encountered on my newer G4 imac, is I've
had to power down the imac after getting it stalling like you describe,
but on the next power up yaboot always comes up fine. So for me it's
just a nuisance.
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Simplest installation on ibook 366, ppc-cooker, floppyless.
I really would like to bring gnome2 and other mdk9 stuff on my girlfriends iBook 366.Is it possible to burn a simple install-image on a CD (like for a floppy) to make a ftp install (to download only the necessary) or network (from my pc). I already tried to make complete package and all image (3 CD) from cooker without success.Played around with DHCP-tftp boot too without success yet. Tried to install 8.2 then urpmi everything from cooker. Didn't either. And my 8.2-install cd don't want to boot anymore (don't know if CD or openfirmware problem).Shes getting tired and I frustrated. What is the simplest way ?I can burn CD from Roxio Easy CD under W2K or linux mdk9 on my pc.I just down know what and how to burn to make it work (bootable cd with good kernel revision).I already wasted enough CD and play with mkppc script to finally write this message. Please someone help A mandrake user since 7.0Pascal
iMac266, OSX Man82ppc installation won't boot
I've just attempted a Mandrake 8.2ppc install on my iMac266, which is already running MacOSX. The expert install sequence appeared to succeed correctly (it even reported a successful install). Upon reboot I get only a grey screen - no boot loader prompt. The machine sits idle from that point, forcing a manual restart. Attempted the following: 1. suggested fix of cmd-opt-o-f and set the OF option to the designated partition (*) with 'setenv boot-device hd:8;\\tbxi' then 'shut-down' 2. followed the documentation suggestion of resetting the pram with cmd-opt-p-r and that allows a successful OSX boot. Apple's Disk Utility continues to show the two 7.8GB OSX partitions I had as well as a greyed-out "bootstrap" partition (I suspect this to be the "blessed partition"). No Linux partitions show (is it normal for them not to show?). I requested /boot at 45MB, / at 10GB, /swap at 400MB and it claimed to be building them. I requested ext3 for the / partition, if it matters. 3. Subscribed to this list. :) No funky hardware - all is stock except for the larger hard drive I installed a year or so ago, which I had left with free space so I could try this very thing. Damon Garn
8.2 PPC installation bug
Hello, I think I observed this on i586 once too: My partitions are /, /usr, and /usr/share. These are on different hard disks. The Mandrake installer doesn't show the correct total free space (it only shows the space of hard disk 1). Thus, I cannot install all the packages I want. There should be a way to override Mandrake's free-space check. Best wishes, Tobias --- Tobias Giesen, Composer Developer of TGTools www.tobiasgiesen.de www.tgtools.com ---
Re: 8.2 PPC installation bug
On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, Tobias Giesen wrote: > Hello, > > I think I observed this on i586 once too: > > My partitions are /, /usr, and /usr/share. These are on different hard > disks. The Mandrake installer doesn't show the correct total free space > (it only shows the space of hard disk 1). Thus, I cannot install all the > packages I want. > > There should be a way to override Mandrake's free-space check. > The installer is essentially the same as x86, so we probably do inherit that bug. /usr is going to get the bulk of your install. On my machine /usr/share is 700M. and /usr without "share" is 1GB. "/" shouldn't get too much. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: installation of mdk-8.2 on ppc9500 still not possibleÉ
>BTW: 'mesh' points to SCSI-devices in 'new world' macs (but also to >integrated devices??)?? Definitions are a little bit tricky - are'nt they?? ;) i don't know anything about "NewWorld" i'm a froggy frenchy staying "OldWorld" ;=)) but i'm sure mesh is for internal oldworld and mac53... for oldworld externl (i do have both of them). Also beware of the installer, because it destroyed one of my HFS standard partition on another disk you will have probably to VI fstab in case of... me too i've tried YDL 2.1 before with an XFree 3.3 working ... thanks for the 14'th ... -- Yvon Thoraval
Re: installation of mdk-8.2 on ppc9500 still not possibleÉ
>Settings: >ppc 9500/200, 192 RAM; >bootX with RAM-disc image of the Mandrake install folder: all.gz; >Kernel: vmlinuz; >Image size: 34000 I've forgotten something really important when you reboot over linux after your successfully install, don't forget (as me ;=)) to change in BootX severall things : the kernel is now : vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk the equivalent to ramdisk : initrd-2.4.18-6.1mdk.img also leave the 34000 as the "ramdisk" size leave -- or not -- no video driver checked kernel arguments : /dev/hdg9 (or /dev/hdxy where x is your ide drive y the partition for root) *** not sure this is mandatory *** put a space followed by 3 (stands for run level 3) because it's better to start that way... -- Yvon Thoraval
installation of mdk-8.2 on ppc9500 still not possibleÉ
Hello list, even after logging/studying approbiate FAQ's the installation of mdk-8.2 on my ppc9500 still does not work; First of all the really nice looking applescript produces error messages after some definition steps (installation of bootX not possible) and - in addition - the values, according to the readme AND the html-guide, of bootX settings are only producing a walkthrough to the 1st stage of the text-based installation... The entry of a manually defined SCSI driver installed in OLD WORLD ppc's ends up in the message that there's no CDROM drive found?? Settings: ppc 9500/200, 192 RAM; bootX with RAM-disc image of the Mandrake install folder: all.gz; Kernel: vmlinuz; Image size: 34000 Looking forward to your hints and ideas (in fact, I like Mandrake al lot, so why not using it on a old world ppc??) greetings Harald : No html: : e-Mails: : please!: : : : Best Regards! : : Harald Zipko : : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : :..:
