RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread Andy Schmidt

Hi,

 Where can i find this versjon of  DLAnalyzer(v2.0.B.I) 

Amazingly enough at:
http://www.dlanalyzer.com

G

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread Andy Schmidt

Hi,

How is your ROUTING test defined in your GLOBAL.CFG?  Is that the
'SPAMROUTING' test? If so - yes, 42% seems extremely high.

 but how to find more info about route problem 

You should look into the headers of some of the emails that fail the ROUTE
test.  If you can't tell why they failed the ROUTE test, then post one here
for us to inspect.

One immediate thought is - do you have a BACKUP MX?  Did you identify that
BACKUP MX to Declude, so that it knows to skip the header for your BACKUP
MX.  If (by chance), your BACKUP MX uses an IP range assigned to a different
country, that alone may account for your high ROUTE failures.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMROUTING, high failure rate

2003-11-25 Thread Andy Schmidt

Hi,

If 42% of your mail fails the routing test, then you probably will get such
a mail sometime today and you can post the header then?

Also - note Scott's response.  It appears as if the SPAMROUTING test is
hard-wired to the U.S.  That alone may be a clue to what's going on.  The
headers will certainly confirm that.

Best Regards
Andy 

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[Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-24 Thread Andy Schmidt

Hi,

With the demise of EasyNet (which was my most successful list), I'm
investigating replacements?

I have seen the following recommendations:

A) SORBS - SORBS will be including dynablock.easynet.nl by importing their
zone data

B) NJABL - has a nice DUL

C) http://psbl.surriel.com/

Any comments?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

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600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FIVETENDUL, no hits?

2003-11-24 Thread Andy Schmidt

Hi,

Looking at my Global.cfg:

FIVETENDUL  ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com  127.0.0.3   5
0

I noticed that it never seems to have any hits?

Scott:
General question - if I include a test in Global.cfg (used for weighting
only), but do NOT include it in a *.junkmail file, will it still be included
in the weight (e.g., is the default action log).


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AHBL Anyone?

2003-11-24 Thread Andy Schmidt

Hi,

These are probably the useful ones:


AHBLRELAYS  ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org  127.0.0.2   5
0
AHBLPROXIES ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org  127.0.0.3   8
0
AHBLSOURCES ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org  127.0.0.4   7
0
AHBLPSSLip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org  127.0.0.5   5
0
AHBLFORMMAIL ip4r   dnsbl.ahbl.org  127.0.0.6   8
0
AHBLENDUSER ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org  127.0.0.9   5
0

AHBLDOMAINS rhsbl   rhsbl.ahbl.org  *   4
0

# WHITELIST:
AHBLEXEMPT  ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org  *   -8
0


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] AHBL Anyone?


Hello, All,
I am interested in knowing if anyone on here uses the The Abusive Hosts
Blocking List, http://www.ahbl.org/.  I had some questions about
implementing it.

Thanks, Much!
Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop news

2003-11-19 Thread Andy Schmidt

May be a commercial enterprise will be more open to adding a hands-off
reporting system.  Manually confirming every spam that I already determined
as spam makes the system not practical.

What they need is a commercial (for fee) account which includes the
(revocable) right to submit directly into their system.

Best Regards
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Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Who Is This Spammer?

2003-11-14 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

Is the reverse DNS valid, e.g., does the Reverse DNS actually point to one
of these registered domains?

Best Regards
Andy 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Who Is This Spammer?

2003-11-14 Thread Andy Schmidt
Here is what I do.

I have a script rdnsbl.cmd that builds my own RDNS BL list:

dnscmd \\your.dns.server /RecordAdd yourdomain.com.
*.%1.rdns.yourdomain.com. A 127.0.0.2
dnscmd \\your.dns.server /RecordAdd yourdomain.com.
%1.rdns.yourdomain.com. A 127.0.0.2

Submit all the spam domain names (e.g., spamdomain.com) with one line per
domain like this:

call rdnsbl spamdomain.com

Add the RDNSBL test to your Declude config file:

RDNSBL  dnsbl   %REVDNS%.rdns.yourdomain.com*
8   0

Enclosed is a zone file to get you started - obviously, you need to
customize to your OWN domain name where you want to host your RDNS BL.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 04:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Who Is This Spammer?


Yes.  The FROM address, the reverse DNS and the HELO all match the same
domain.  They tend not to trip any tests unless the IPs have been reported
to Spamcop or another IP4R provider.


yourdomain.com.dns
Description: Binary data


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Who Is This Spammer?

2003-11-14 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Tom:

The zone file is for YourDomain.com.

So:

*.somename.net.rdns A   127.0.0.2

expands to:

*.somename.net.rdns.YourDomain.com. A   127.0.0.2

and means that ANY hostname that ends with
.somename.net.rdns.Yourdomain.com. will return 127.0.0.2.

The Global.cfg defines:

RDNSBL  dnsbl   %REVDNS%.rdns.yourdomain.com*   8
0

That means, take the REVDNS from a message, prepend it to
RDNS.YourDomain.com and if you get any valid address (e.g., 127.0.0.2)
then assign a weight of 8.

So, if a an email was sent from ANY host at .somename.net it will look up
somehost.somename.net.rdns.yourdomain.com - which will return a 127.0.0.2.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Do you use ColdFusion? - Java?

2003-11-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



I 
question the importance tomake the interface "cross platform" - when the 
tool that you are managing (Imail and Declude) are Windows specific? I'd 
personally rather use the web server that is already optimized for that 
environment and offers me plenty of control: IIS.


  
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  On Behalf Of Pete McNeilSent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 
  05:35 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Do you use ColdFusion? - Java?
  OT - sort of.
  
  We do most of our heavy web work in Java/JSP.We've tossed around 
  the idea of building a Java app that would accept HTTP connections (perhaps on 
  an alternate port) and provide an interface to Declude  other spam 
  management tools for users  admins.
  
  Our development schedule is _very_ full, but if there is a significant 
  interest in this I couldexplore shifting some effort in that 
  direction.
  
  As a dedicated Java app it would be cross-platform compatible (in 
  theory), relatively secure, lightweight,and could be configured to run 
  along side any web services that might be present (such as KWM). In an IMail 
  environment we could even present a postini-like interface for users to 
  "release" their held spam - and generate accurate false positive reporting in 
  the process, etc... (these are the ideas we have 
anyway...)
  
  Thoughts?
  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew 
BrambleSent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:46 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: 
Do you use ColdFusion?I've got one, but don't really 
use it. I much prefer ASP, if just for the integration and 
stability.Matt


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Request status %TESTSFAILED%

2003-11-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
 something like UNREPORTEDTESTS WEIGHT10 WEIGHT20 NOLEGITCONTENT
IPNOTINMX 

That would be great.  Because currently email that fails the WHITELIST is
treated as SPAM when my Outlook client is looking at the X-Declude header -
just the opposite of what Whitelisting is trying to accomplish.

I have to use more complex rules so that positive tests (IPNOTINMX,
NOVALIDCONTENT, etc.) and whitelist get's detected by Outlook BEFORE it
attempts to recognize the true SPAM tests.  That has prevented me from
introducing client-side header filtering to my clients - it's just to
complex at the moment.

Best Regards
Andy 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account

2003-10-31 Thread Andy Schmidt
 I don't see the reasoning behind sending SPAMCOP thousands of e-mails per
day that are already stopped by your system.  

Presence in SPAMCOP is temporary. To REMAIN listed, you need to keep
submitting SPAM so that the senders keep getting listed.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

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[Declude.JunkMail] Bypass Whitelisting Problem?

2003-10-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Hi 
Scott:

Do we STILL have a 
whitelisting problem. Since 1.76i11, I now get:

10/27/2003 11:46:22 
Q4bdb16ce00f471ae nNOLEGITCONTENT:-3 . Total weight = -310/27/2003 11:46:22 
Q4bdb16ce00f471ae NOT bypassing whitelisting of E-mail with weight =20 (-858993460) and at least 1 recipients 
(1).10/27/2003 11:46:22 Q4bdb16ce00f471ae NOT bypassing whitelisting of 
E-mail with weight =15 (-858993460) and at least 4 recipients 
(1).10/27/2003 11:46:37 Q4beb16d100f4ad5f nNOLEGITCONTENT:-3 . Total 
weight = -310/27/2003 11:46:37 Q4beb16d100f4ad5f NOT bypassing whitelisting 
of E-mail with weight =20 (-858993460) and at least 1 recipients 
(1).10/27/2003 11:46:37 Q4beb16d100f4ad5f NOT bypassing whitelisting of 
E-mail with weight =15 (-858993460) and at least 4 recipients 
(1).10/27/2003 11:46:46 Q4bf10cae010ac7ec nIPNOTINMX:-2 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-3 
. Total weight = -510/27/2003 11:46:46 Q4bf10cae010ac7ec NOT bypassing 
whitelisting of E-mail with weight =20 (-858993460) and at least 1 
recipients (1).10/27/2003 11:46:46 Q4bf10cae010ac7ec NOT bypassing 
whitelisting of E-mail with weight =15 (-858993460) and at least 4 
recipients (1).10/27/2003 11:46:49 Q4bf60cb2010ad99f nNOLEGITCONTENT:-3 
WEIGHTFILTER:3 . Total weight = 010/27/2003 11:46:49 Q4bf60cb2010ad99f 
NOT bypassing whitelisting of E-mail with weight =20 (-858993460) and at 
least 1 recipients (1).10/27/2003 11:46:49 Q4bf60cb2010ad99f NOT bypassing 
whitelisting of E-mail with weight =15 (-858993460) and at least 4 
recipients (1).

Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bypasswhitelisting Not working?

2003-10-09 Thread Andy Schmidt
Uh - then the Version Announcement (back in September) and your online
Declude Release Notes are both in error:

Release Notes:
JM ADD Adds a bypasswhitelisting test type that can be used in rare cases
when whitelist bypassing is necessary.

Your Version Announcement:
From: R. Scott Perry 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.76 (beta) released 
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:11:51 -0700 

  o Adds a bypasswhitelisting test type that can be used in rare
cases when whitelist bypassing is necessary. 

Used where and how? 

Used only as a last resort. :)

It can be defined with a line such as EMERGENCYBYPASS bypasswhitelisting 60
3 0 0. The 60 refers to the weight the E-mail must reach, and the 3 refers
to the minimum number of recipients. In this case, it would attempt to
bypass the whitelisting for E-mail with 3 or more recipients and a weight of
60 or higher.

-Scott




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My Global.cfg contains:

BYPASSWHITELIST bypasswhitelisting 20 1 0 0
BYPASSMULTIRECP bypasswhitelisting 15 4 0 0

If you change those to:

BYPASSWHITELIST bypasswhitelist 20 1 0 0
BYPASSMULTIRECP bypasswhitelist 15 4 0 0

it should fix it.  It seems that the test type is bypasswhitelist, not 
bypasswhitelisting.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bypasswhitelisting Not working?

2003-10-09 Thread Andy Schmidt
Well it DOES work - now I see it full of log entries that actually report
the action it takes.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Baumbach
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 09:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bypasswhitelisting Not working?


interesting, I was using bypasswhitelisting too, I just changed it to
bypasswhitelist

I found no errors in the logs, lets see if it works now.

Sincerely,

William J. Baumbach II  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9975 Pennsylvania Ave. Manassas, Va. 20110-2028
Ph: 703-367-7900 ext:1708 Fax: 703-691-0946
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From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bypasswhitelisting Not working?


Uh - then the Version Announcement (back in September) and your online
Declude Release Notes are both in error:

Release Notes:
JM ADD Adds a bypasswhitelisting test type that can be used in rare cases
when whitelist bypassing is necessary.

Your Version Announcement:
From: R. Scott Perry
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.76 (beta) released
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:11:51 -0700

  o Adds a bypasswhitelisting test type that can be used in 
 rare
cases when whitelist bypassing is necessary. 

Used where and how?

Used only as a last resort. :)

It can be defined with a line such as EMERGENCYBYPASS bypasswhitelisting 60
3 0 0. The 60 refers to the weight the E-mail must reach, and the 3 refers
to the minimum number of recipients. In this case, it would attempt to
bypass the whitelisting for E-mail with 3 or more recipients and a weight of
60 or higher.

-Scott




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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bypasswhitelisting Not working?



My Global.cfg contains:

BYPASSWHITELIST bypasswhitelisting 20 1 0 0
BYPASSMULTIRECP bypasswhitelisting 15 4 0 0

If you change those to:

BYPASSWHITELIST bypasswhitelist 20 1 0 0
BYPASSMULTIRECP bypasswhitelist 15 4 0 0

it should fix it.  It seems that the test type is bypasswhitelist, not
bypasswhitelisting.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] maybe its just one of AOL's servers???

2003-10-09 Thread Andy Schmidt
Fred:

The ONLY header info you can trust is the one that your OWN mail server
inserted.

E.g., if your mail server inserted this first header:

Received: from  scmp-m01.mail.aol.com [163.163.163.163] by
mail.fredsserver.com...

then you could trust the following:

- The connection to your mail server was made from IP address
163.163.163.163
- The machine connecting to you used a HELO string of
scmp-m01.mail.aol.com
- That the date/time shown is the time used on YOUR machine

You can NOT trust:

- that the machine truly IS scmp-m01.mail.aol.com because that
string is controlled by the SENDING machine, thus can be (and frequently is)
forged or at least wrong.


However, you can NOT trust any header claimed to have been inserted by any
server OTHER than your's, e.g.:

Received: from  scmp-m01.mail.aol.com (scmp-m01.mail.aol.com
[172.20.75.169]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id 

is made to look as if it was inserted by omr-m01.mx.aol.com - but since (I
assume) this is not YOUR machine, you can't (and should not) imply that any
of this information is valid.  Indeed, the IP address used is in the IANA
reserved range and I doubt that AOL would/could use those ranges for
external mail servers.

That particular header line does look like a fake.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Samarelli
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 09:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] maybe its just one of AOL's servers???


This was take directly off the header of emails I receive from AOL notifying
me that someone from one of my subnets was reported sending un-wanted email.

Fred

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[Declude.JunkMail] Bypasswhitelisting Not working?

2003-10-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
Scott:

My Global.cfg contains:

BYPASSWHITELIST bypasswhitelisting 20 1 0 0
BYPASSMULTIRECP bypasswhitelisting 15 4 0 0

PREWHITELISTON
AUTOWHITELIST   ON

Yet, here's one of many messages with 6 recipients and a weight of 26 that
does get whitelisted:

10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 DSBL:5 SPAMCOP:7 EASYNET-DYNA:5 CBL:7
HEUR8:2 .  Total weight = 26
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 E-mail whitelisted - automatically
passing all spam tests [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 Subject: Andy_schmidt, Fast  easy way
to get your medication today!zybvblxou jre  ghph ztskkm hbavwmwh sh  di
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 24.197.251.74 ID: 22002968
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 Subject: Andy_schmidt, Fast  easy way
to get your medication today!zybvblxou jre  ghph ztskkm hbavwmwh sh  di
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 24.197.251.74 ID:
22002968
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 Subject: Andy_schmidt, Fast  easy way
to get your medication today!zybvblxou jre  ghph ztskkm hbavwmwh sh  di
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP:
24.197.251.74 ID: 22002968
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 Subject: Andy_schmidt, Fast  easy way
to get your medication today!zybvblxou jre  ghph ztskkm hbavwmwh sh  di
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 24.197.251.74 ID: 22002968
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 Subject: Andy_schmidt, Fast  easy way
to get your medication today!zybvblxou jre  ghph ztskkm hbavwmwh sh  di
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 24.197.251.74 ID:
22002968
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 Subject: Andy_schmidt, Fast  easy way
to get your medication today!zybvblxou jre  ghph ztskkm hbavwmwh sh  di
10/08/2003 23:39:15 Qd81d109f0148f5b6 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP:
24.197.251.74 ID: 22002968


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

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[Declude.JunkMail] DNSReport C-Class Warning

2003-10-07 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=FRENCHRENDEZVOUS.CC

First claims:
All of your nameservers (listed at the parent nameservers) are in the same
Class C address space...
[If the parent servers have no glue for your domain, this could be a false
positive.] 

And then continues to report (correctly):
65.119.204.32: No version info available (CHAOS not implemented).
63.107.174.24: No version info available (CHAOS not implemented).


Now - whether the parent servers do have or don't have any glue - why would
THAT effect your ability to compare 65.119.204.32 with 63.107.174.24 and
plainly see that they are NOT in the same Class C address space?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] eBay - scam..

2003-10-02 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



not to 
speak of trademark and or copyrightinfringement (which is NOT a civil 
matter - stakes are higher). These web sites are made to look exactly as the 
"realthing", using their logo, etc.

I have 
reported many of these emails with all headers to them- and offered logs 
etc and never got more than an automated reply. Not worth my 
time.
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Bill LandrySent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 
  09:06 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] eBay - scam..
  Yep, been catching this one for quite a while 
  now. It is surprising, however,that E-Bay has not gone after these 
  guys since it is so blatant in its attempt to steal E-Bay user account 
  information.
  
  Bill
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Kami 
Razvan 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:06 
AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] eBay - 
scam..

Hi; 
An interesting email was just caught with a 
barely hold value. 
It is asking for the recipient to click to 
update their eBay records. The only URL in the body that is suspicious 
is: info-update-ebay.com
The Whois is anything but eBay. 
The email has full eBay logo and TRUSTe 
information - coming with links from eBay. 
This is the way the email starts.. 
 
Your eBay account is in jeopardy! To secure 
your account please continue by clicking the link below. Secure your eBay account now! = Has anyone else seen this? You may want to 
filter that URL. Regards, 
Kami 



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Backup MX / Spam

2003-10-02 Thread Andy Schmidt
No I don't think that was the intention.  I think the intention is that
there is no reason for mail to come through the backup MX server during
normal operations.  The only ones who intentionally contact the backup MX
are likely to be viruses and spammers.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Maze -
Hostmaster
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Backup MX / Spam


Use the IPBYPASS %sec mx ip% feature within the GLOBAL.CFG file.  It will
skip the ip address of your secondary mx record and run the check on the ip
address of the originating server.

IPBYPASSxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Backup MX / Spam


Hi

Some large percentage of the spam we get comes to the backup MX and then is
relayed to the primary MX.  

Using Declude JM Standard, is there some test I can use to add additional
weight to any mail routed through my backup MX?

Thanks,

Rob


==
Robert N. Grosshandler
www.iGive.com
Turn shopping into Philanthropy

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Understanding Return Codes

2003-09-24 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



 ISP mail servers thatget used 
by spammers 

Uhuh - 
so?Which ISP is permitting/tolerating/mis-configuring their servers 
to be abused in that way?

I have seen very 
FEW spammers thatMX mail fromtheir "own" mail servers (as they would 
be shut down and/or blocked too easily). Nearly everyone is using proxies, open 
relays or otherwise hi-jacked machines - and the smaller once use consumer 
broadband accounts.
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Colbeck, AndrewSent: Wednesday, September 24, 
  2003 12:47 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: 
  RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Understanding Return Codes
  (sigh) Again 
  I'm the voice of dissent... I find that CBL merits no higher than a weight 
  of5out of my HOLD weight of 20. I find that it includes a 
  lot of ISP mail servers thatget used by spammers. They do seem to 
  work at removing them, but meanwhile, it's throwing the baby out with the bath 
  water. I'm sure glad that Declude gives me a weighted system to work 
  with.
  
  Andrew 
  8)
  

-Original Message-From: Matthew 
Bramble [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 
9:23 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
[Declude.JunkMail] Understanding Return CodesMaybe it 
was just down on the day I tested it...I like pure spamtrap RBL's 
because clean ones have no false positives. CBL is a good one to add 
if you haven't checked it out, and it produces a lot of hits (with no FP's 
in a week of monitoring).Bill Landry wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Bramble" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  Maybe other "unlisted" entries reflect similar circumstances
(not available under normal circumstances)?

All of the DNSBLs (ip4r) and RHSBLs listed on the Declude spam databases
site (http://www.declude.com/Junkmail/support/ip4r.htm) are publicly
accessible, unless it has been noted otherwise in the comments (e.g., MAPS
tests).  The "SBBL" spam database can be access by using:

SBBLip4rsbbl.they.com*30

So far today I have flagged over 900 messages as spam using the SBBL test.

Bill
  


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: VerySinn disrupts LAN traffic

2003-09-22 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



There 
are reports of people's printers that stopped working. Essentially, TCP/IP 
connected printers on a local LAN set up by an ignorant network "admin" 
withan invalid domain name,connected to a local print server. 
Somehow, the workstations FIRST did a lookup by the (invalid) host/domain name - 
and would get a negative response from the external DNS. Then they would 
do internal name resolution and the printer could be found.

After 
VerySinn's move, the external resolution now points to VerySinn - and the result 
is a printer failure in a local LAN.

The 
point is, who knows how many things relied on the proper "not found" response to 
domain lookups - that are now broken and someone will waste time trying to 
figure out what changed.
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Museum

2003-09-21 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



 (632 
potential sites with a TLD set up to help increase awareness of museums on the 
Web in general). 

where 
is THAT number coming from?

There 
are probably 2 or 3 museums even in smaller towns (I can think of 2 in my 
home-town of 30,000)
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain.

2003-09-21 Thread Andy Schmidt
Can't reproduce here.

I get regular Not found in my browser.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 01:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] VeriSteal is stealing traffic from your domain.


I didn't realize this until a second ago, but VeriCorrupt is stealing 
traffic from every domain name out there on the Internet, regardless of 
the extension, and regardless of whether or not it is registered.  Want 
to see something else that's quite strange?

http://asfdasdsadfdsf.online.museum
http://asdfaasdfasdf.site.biz

For some reason that brings you to VeriThief's SiteFinder??  If you 
take out the .online it will take you to the wildcarded MuseDoma 
site.  Seems that VeriSteal has some bleed over.  Want to see something 
even worse?

http://asdasdfasdfa.igaia.com
http://asdfasdfasdf.declude.com

Any lookup, registered or unregistered that doesn't return an A record 
is being directed at this site.  Why the hell are these guys stealing 
traffic from the domain names that I am paying for?  THIS MUST END!  Up 
until now, I only thought this was limited to unregistered domains.  
VeriHijack can't be allowed to write the rules whatever way they see 
fit.  They quite literally just took over the backbone of the Internet.

Matt

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.76 (beta) released

2003-09-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
  o Adds a bypasswhitelisting test type that can be used in rare 
cases when whitelist bypassing is necessary. 

Used where and how?

Best Regards
Andy 

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[Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM catches too much now?

2003-09-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

Am I mistaken - or did the MAILFROM used to permit EITHER an MX OR an A
record?

Suddenly, I see LOTS of mail being held, because of mailfrom failures:

X-Declude: Version 1.76; D3f8a026a02001aec.SMD from mailer390.marist.edu
[148.100.80.47]
X-Declude: Triggered MAILFROM, IPNOTINMX [-3]
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


But, when I check @VM.MARIST.EDU I get:

 vm.marist.edu.
 Non-authoritative answer:
 Name:vm.marist.edu
 Addresses:  148.100.81.40, 148.100.80.40


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.76 (beta) released

2003-09-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Uh - cool feature.

Currently I have a certain receiving Postmaster account whitelisted (so that
the occasional false positive can alert us after we sent them a BOUNCE or
ALERT) - which means it gets 80% spam.

The real false positives are seldomly more than a few points over our
BOUNCE or ALERT limit.  Certainly, if they were up to our KILL limit
(for which we've never gotten any complaints), they would not know that we
blocked them and therefore, are not likely that they'd ever try to contact
our Postmaster account.

So, if I use:

BYPASSWHITELIST bypasswhitelisting 20 0 0 0

it will not whitelist any mails if the weight is 20 (our kill weight) or
more and the mail has any number of recipients or no recipients?  (At 20,
the mail must have failed so many tests that I have NEVER seen any false
positives.)

Best Regards
Andy 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 01:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.76 (beta) released



   o Adds a bypasswhitelisting test type that can be used in 
  rare
cases when whitelist bypassing is necessary. 

Used where and how?

Used only as a last resort.  :)

It can be defined with a line such as EMERGENCYBYPASS bypasswhitelisting 
60 3 0 0.  The 60 refers to the weight the E-mail must reach, and the 3 
refers to the minimum number of recipients.  In this case, it would attempt 
to bypass the whitelisting for E-mail with 3 or more recipients and a 
weight of 60 or higher.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM catches too much now?

2003-09-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Scott:

X-Declude-Note: Domain lists.msnbc.com has no MX or A records.

Sure does:
   lists.msnbc.com.
  Non-authoritative answer:
  lists.msnbc.com internet address = 207.46.169.42

Yet - Declude fails the MAILFROM test!

X-Declude: Version 1.76; D499f047e01827d13.SMD from lists.msnbc.com
[207.46.169.42]
X-Declude: Triggered BONDEDSENDER, MAILFROM, HELOBOGUS [-7]
X-Countries: UNITED STATES-destination
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 02:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM catches too much now?
Importance: High


Hi Scott:

Am I mistaken - or did the MAILFROM used to permit EITHER an MX OR an A
record?

Suddenly, I see LOTS of mail being held, because of mailfrom failures:

X-Declude: Version 1.76; D3f8a026a02001aec.SMD from mailer390.marist.edu
[148.100.80.47]
X-Declude: Triggered MAILFROM, IPNOTINMX [-3]
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


But, when I check @VM.MARIST.EDU I get:

 vm.marist.edu.
 Non-authoritative answer:
 Name:vm.marist.edu
 Addresses:  148.100.81.40, 148.100.80.40


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM catches too much now?

2003-09-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

I have XSENDER OFF.
Instead I use:
XINHEADER   Return-Path: %MAILFROM%

I don't have EnvFromStrict.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 02:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM catches too much now?



Am I mistaken - or did the MAILFROM used to permit EITHER an MX OR an A 
record?

Suddenly, I see LOTS of mail being held, because of mailfrom failures:

X-Declude: Version 1.76; D3f8a026a02001aec.SMD from 
mailer390.marist.edu [148.100.80.47]
X-Declude: Triggered MAILFROM, IPNOTINMX [-3]
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What is in the X-Declude-Sender: header (that's the one that Declude 
looks at)?  I just tested here with 1.76, and the MAILFROM test is not 
triggered on @vm.marist.edu addresses.

vm.marist.edu doesn't have an MX record, which is a serious problem 
(especially now that many people are talking about no longer sending mail 
to servers with no MX record), but that shouldn't by itself trigger the 
test (unless you use envfromstrict, but you should know if you are using 
that).

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM catches too much now?

2003-09-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
:15.631 Q56ec00f1016e71bc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@optonline.net] *local*
09/19/2003 15:20:15.631 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Opening
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\Ipswitch\IMail\Domains
09/19/2003 15:20:15.631 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Domain name = pianoartist.com,
User name = Scott.
09/19/2003 15:20:15 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Using [incoming] CFG file
D:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
09/19/2003 15:20:15.631 Q56ec00f1016e71bc
.X...XX...
09/19/2003 15:20:15.631 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Test #17 [MAILFROM weight=0]
triggered; action = 15 [Domain mail.matchevents.com has no MX or A records.]
09/19/2003 15:20:15 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Msg failed MAILFROM (Domain
mail.matchevents.com has no MX or A records.). Action=HOLD.
09/19/2003 15:20:15.631 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Test #21 [HELOBOGUS weight=3]
triggered; action = 5 [Domain mail.matchevents.com has no MX or A records.]
09/19/2003 15:20:15 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Msg failed HELOBOGUS (Domain
mail.matchevents.com has no MX or A records.). Action=WARN.
09/19/2003 15:20:15.631 Q56ec00f1016e71bc X-Declude-Note: Domain
mail.matchevents.com has no MX or A records.
09/19/2003 15:20:15.631 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Test #26 [NOLEGITCONTENT weight=0]
triggered; action = 0 [No content unique to legitimate E-mail detected.]
09/19/2003 15:20:15 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Subject: Upcoming Nyack Party
09/19/2003 15:20:15 Q56ec00f1016e71bc From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 209.123.232.152 ID: 
09/19/2003 15:20:15.647 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Done Looping
09/19/2003 15:20:15.647 Q56ec00f1016e71bc AlterRecip( 5, (null), (null));
09/19/2003 15:20:15.647 Q56ec00f1016e71bc AlterRecip: Saving queuefile
09/19/2003 15:20:15 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Last action = HOLD.
09/19/2003 15:20:15.647 Q56ec00f1016e71bc X-Declude: Version 1.76;
D56ec00f1016e71bc.SMD from mail.matchevents.com [209.123.232.152] X-Declude:
Triggered MAILFROM, HELOBOGUS, NOLEGITCONTENT [1] X-Countries: UNITED
STATES-destination Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/2003
15:20:15.647 Q56ec00f1016e71bc AlterMessage
09/19/2003 15:20:15.647 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Set process priority back to 32.
09/19/2003 15:20:15.647 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Adding warning
09/19/2003 15:20:15.662 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Last Action=HOLD.
09/19/2003 15:20:15.662 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Unlocked
D:\IMAIL\spool\Q56ec00f1016e71bc.SMD.
09/19/2003 15:20:15.662 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Moving file to spam hold directory
09/19/2003 15:20:15.662 Q56ec00f1016e71bc Total Time: 1595ms





Best Regards
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600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
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Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Next release

2003-09-16 Thread Andy Schmidt
 if you are running a version of IMail that supports it, such as 8.x).  A
line WHITELIST AUTH in the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file will let that
interim release know to whitelist all E-mail from users who have
authenticated. 

Uhhh, finally a good reason to upgrade to 8.x.
Until now it seemed like a waste of good money.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] mailbox forwarding no action

2003-09-10 Thread Andy Schmidt
Scott:

May be I misunderstand

 The forwarding is actually handled by IMail after the E-mail is processed
by Declude, so there is no evidence of forwarding when Declude sees the
E-mail. 

If the forwarding is handled by Imail AFTER Declude processed it - then
would Declude first ACT on the incoming email (e.g., bounce, delete, warn -
and Virus checking) and only messages that make it past the Declude filters
would eventually be forwarded?

If it works that way - then where's the problem? There is no reason to
rescan the forwarded copies, if the original was already processed?

If it doesn't work that way, e.g., if one can really entirely bypass Declude
simply by sending mail to a forwarding email account - then this would be a
huge security hole?  But I can't imagine that being the case!?

Best Regards
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600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
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Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Relay Limit

2003-09-10 Thread Andy Schmidt
If all you need is a relay server or backup MX, then IIS' built-in SMTP
server works just fine for us.  We actually think of Imail as a mailbox
server and try to offload all outbound or relay functions to the MS SMTP.

Best Regards
Andy 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 03:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Relay Limit


I'm running Declude as a gateway for various IPs and just hit a limit.
Under

 Addresses specified here are to be considered local addresses for mail
gatewaying


Adding entries to Access Control under SMTP, the 100th entry produces an
error:

  Maximum table size reached


So now, no more clients can be added because I can't relay their mail.
Ipswitch says its hard coded across all versions and a fix is months away,
if they agree to do it.  What I'm thinking is sending all mail to a down
stream server that doesn't have this limit that would in turn forward to
clients.  This leaves two questions:

1) What's the best email server software to do this with, providing both
unlimited relay IPs and easy text editing of the delivery list (Linux,
Windows, Mac)?

2) What's the best way to deliver from Imail to this server?  The obvious is
to add this same IP to every domain listed in the hosts file, but would it
be better to use 

  Gateway Option, Send all remote mail through gateway


Any comments/insights would be appreciated.  Thanks!

Dan




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] mailbox forwarding no action

2003-09-10 Thread Andy Schmidt
 But if you use an action that causes the E-mail to be delivered 
(such as SUBJECT, WARN, MAILBOX), then the forwarded E-mail will be
delivered. 

I'm a bit dense today - and why would THAT be a problem?  

Or are you saying the forwarded email would be an entirely new email
message and Declude's subject or header inserts would not appear in
those forwarded copies?

Some of our clients do use forwarding mailboxes - so I just want to be
clear about the implications.

Best Regards
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Article on News.Com

2003-09-09 Thread Andy Schmidt
Oh, they are not blocking the servers from spamming to the REST of the
world, they are only blacklisting servers from delivering mails into China.
E.g., they are targeting servers in Taiwan and elsewhere that are spamming
INTO China.

Servers that are in China and are spamming into the U.S. don't seem to be
included.

PS: But I agree, it can only help that they suddenly have some awareness
of SPAM and at least some people get the concept of open relays.

Best Regards
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
 SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b? 

Assuming you don't ever get emails from European countries, Canada or other
locations that use accented characters.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY Replacement..

2003-08-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
Please review these archives - several people have been posting their
replacement config files in the past 2 days.

Best Regards
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600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Maze -
Hostmaster
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 08:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY Replacement..


So what are y'all beginning to use instead of the OSRELAY tests?

I was using this and one of the other OS tests.  Even though I still had 350
messages in my spam account this morning, I would like another test to
replace these.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY Replacement question.

2003-08-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
Here is the replacements that I'm using (marked up red) with the results for
the last few hours:

 



Best Regards
Andy Schmidt


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 09:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY question.


Anyone have any recommendations on what to replace:

#OSDUL  ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.3
5   0
#OSFORM ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.8
5   0
#OSLIST ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.7
5   0
#OSRELAYip4rrelays.osirusoft.com
127.0.0.2   5   0
#OSSMARTip4rrelays.osirusoft.com
127.0.0.5   5   0
#OSSOFT ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.6
5   0
#OSSRC  ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.4
5   0

With?


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY Replacement question.

2003-08-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hm - may be this list doesn't support HTML mail (or doesn't support
attachments), here is that screen shot again, this time as a BMP file.

The replacements that I'm using are marked up red with the results for the
last few hours

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY Replacement question.


Here is the replacements that I'm using (marked up red) with the results for
the last few hours:

 



Best Regards
Andy Schmidt


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 09:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY question.


Anyone have any recommendations on what to replace:

#OSDUL  ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.3
5   0
#OSFORM ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.8
5   0
#OSLIST ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.7
5   0
#OSRELAYip4rrelays.osirusoft.com
127.0.0.2   5   0
#OSSMARTip4rrelays.osirusoft.com
127.0.0.5   5   0
#OSSOFT ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.6
5   0
#OSSRC  ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.4
5   0

With?


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY Replacement question.

2003-08-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
The replacements that I'm using are marked up red with the results for the
last few hours.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 09:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY question.


Anyone have any recommendations on what to replace:

#OSDUL  ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.3
5   0
#OSFORM ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.8
5   0
#OSLIST ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.7
5   0
#OSRELAYip4rrelays.osirusoft.com
127.0.0.2   5   0
#OSSMARTip4rrelays.osirusoft.com
127.0.0.5   5   0
#OSSOFT ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.6
5   0
#OSSRC  ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.4
5   0

With?


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Badheader

2003-08-26 Thread Andy Schmidt
 Most likely, it's a non-Y2K-compliant header 

Seems like an error in the decoder CGI? It should be able to handle this bit
mask?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



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Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 06:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Badheader



08/25/2003 18:15:51 Q8a94039b0274da59 Msg failed BADHEADERS (This 
E-mail was sent from a broken mail client [a010010f].). Action=WARN.

But http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=a010010f displays:

Code: a010010f.
I can't tell from (code a010010f) what tests it failed. I am not that 
smart, I am just a computer. Sorry!

Now what?

These odd codes can occur sometimes.  In this case, the problem is with the 
Date: header (the same as the code 8010010f).  Most likely, it's a 
non-Y2K-compliant header (which should only occur in SMTP software written 
in the 1980s).

-Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] Strange Badheader

2003-08-25 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

08/25/2003 18:15:51 Q8a94039b0274da59 Msg failed BADHEADERS (This E-mail was
sent from a broken mail client [a010010f].). Action=WARN.

But http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=a010010f displays:

Code: a010010f. 
I can't tell from (code a010010f) what tests it failed. I am not that smart,
I am just a computer. Sorry!

Now what?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reverse Lookup Delegation

2003-07-29 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

Some providers will delegate a classless reverse lookup zone to you. That's
what you expected.

Some providers will NOT delegate the zone to you - instead they have THEIR
name server act as secondary to your master name server for that zone,
i.e., they do zone transfers from your master server to their name servers -
and then their name servers answer the queries.

 The customer's CIDR Block: 65.69.21.192/27 
 If I nslookup 65.69.201.195 

So which is it? 65.69.201.x or 65.69.21.x?

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=65.69.21.195 shows that there is a
valid Reverse DNS - so why do you want to change it?

It also indicates that there is NO delegation from the SWBELL name server to
yours.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Frolick
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 01:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Reverse Lookup Delegation


Scott,

I have a customer who hosts their web and DNS with me and their mail on
SWBell DSL.  SWBell would not create a custom PTR but will delegate the
reverse zone of their IP's to my name server (which is cool).  The problem
is I do not think they did it correctly or my NS handles it in an odd way. 

The customer's CIDR Block: 65.69.21.192/27
Zone in my NS: 192/27.21.69.65.in-addr.arpa (this is from the SimpleDNS Plus
reverse zone wizard) Mail server: smtp.gbltx.com [65.69.201.195]

If I nslookup 65.69.201.195, all is fine, if I nslookup
195.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa, it only lists NS records (mine and
swbell.net's).

This is my first time dealing with reverse zones for anything other than /24
CIDR blocks.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reverse Lookup Delegation

2003-07-29 Thread Andy Schmidt
It's a bit unconventional - and not fool-proof - but functional for now.

They added the following information to their name servers:

A) for each IP address a CNAME to the delegated classless zone, e.g.

In their 69.65.in-addr.arpa.

192.201 CNAME   192.192.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa.
193.201 CNAME   193.192.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa.
194.201 CNAME   194.192.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa.
... Etc

192.201 NS  argo21.argohouston.com.
192.201 NS  argo22.argohouston.com.

B) To match their entries, you need to create your own zone on your name
servers:

Zone 192.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa.

192 PTR Host192.argohouston.com.
193 PTR Host193.argohouston.com.
194 PTR Host194.argohouston.com.

(etc - pick whatever valid host names you desire.)


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Frolick
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 04:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reverse Lookup Delegation


I typoed, it is 65.69.201.192/27, and my zone is
192/27.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa.

And lookup of http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=65.69.201.192
shows:

Asking d.root-servers.net for 192.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa PTR record:  
   d.root-servers.net says to go to FIGWORT.arin.net. (zone:
65.in-addr.arpa.)
Asking FIGWORT.arin.net. for 192.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa PTR record:  
   figwort.arin.net says to go to NS2.SWBELL.NET. (zone:
69.65.in-addr.arpa.)
Asking NS2.SWBELL.NET. for 192.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa PTR record:  
   ns2.swbell.net says to go to argo21.argohouston.com. (zone:
192.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa.)
Asking argo21.argohouston.com. for 192.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa PTR
record:  Got unknown response (rc=0 an=0 type= err=).

But http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=65.69.201.195 shows:

Asking b.root-servers.net for 195.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa PTR record:  
   b.root-servers.net says to go to DILL.arin.net. (zone:
65.in-addr.arpa.)
Asking DILL.arin.net. for 195.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa PTR record:  
   dill.arin.net says to go to NS1.SWBELL.NET. (zone:
69.65.in-addr.arpa.)
Asking NS1.SWBELL.NET. for 195.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa PTR record:  Got CNAME
referral to argo21.argohouston.com. (zone
195.192.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa.)
Asking argo21.argohouston.com. for 195.192.201.69.65.in-addr.arpa. PTR
record:  Got unknown response (rc=0 an=0 type= err=).

The CNAME response is weird to me.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reverse Lookup Delegation


Actually, http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=65.69.21.192 shows that 
swbell isn't delegating authority for the reverse DNS to your servers -- it 
is simply reporting an answer of 
adsl-65-69-21-192.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net.  You'll need to contact swbell.net 
to have them delegate authority for the reverse DNS to your servers.

-Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] Reverse Lookup Filter Not Resolving CNAMEs?

2003-07-29 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

This log entry shows that WEIGHTFILTER line 18 was triggered:

07/29/2003 17:29:11 Qe72424c300ae45b3 OSSRC:6 nIPNOTINMX:-2
nNOLEGITCONTENT:-3 WEIGHTFILTER:4 .  Total weight = 5
07/29/2003 17:29:11 Qe72424c300ae45b3 Msg failed OSSRC ([1] IMGDirect, see
http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S804). Action=WARN.
07/29/2003 17:29:11 Qe72424c300ae45b3 Msg failed WEIGHTFILTER (Message
failed WEIGHTFILTER test (18)). Action=IGNORE.
07/29/2003 17:29:11 Qe72424c300ae45b3 Subject: Re: FW: you bounced my email
as spam
07/29/2003 17:29:11 Qe72424c300ae45b3 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 208.237.120.134 ID: 

My Weightfilter line 18 is:

REVDNS   4  ENDSWITH.in-addr.arpa

However, DNSstuff resolves the DNS correctly to secnap2.secnap.net.

It appears as if Declude 1.75 is not resolving PTR CNAMEs correctly?  I
thought we had fixed that problem in an earlier beta?


http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=208.237.120.132

Country: UNITED STATES

Preparation:
The  reverse DNS entry for an IP is found by reversing the IP, adding it to
in-addr.arpa, and looking up the PTR record.
So, the reverse DNS entry for 208.237.120.132 is found by looking up the PTR
record for
 132.120.237.208.in-addr.arpa.
All DNS requests start by asking the root servers, and they let us know what
to do next.
See How Reverse DNS Lookups Work for more information.

How I am searching:
Asking i.root-servers.net for 132.120.237.208.in-addr.arpa PTR record:  
   i.root-servers.net says to go to EPAZOTE.arin.net. (zone:
208.in-addr.arpa.)
Asking EPAZOTE.arin.net. for 132.120.237.208.in-addr.arpa PTR record:  
   epazote.arin.net says to go to AUTH00.NS.UU.NET. (zone:
237.208.in-addr.arpa.)
Asking AUTH00.NS.UU.NET. for 132.120.237.208.in-addr.arpa PTR record:  
   auth00.ns.uu.net says to go to ns2.airface.com. (zone:
120.237.208.in-addr.arpa.)
Asking ns2.airface.com. for 132.120.237.208.in-addr.arpa PTR record:  Got
CNAME referral to caerulus.cerintha.com. (zone 208.237.132.secnap.net.)
Asking caerulus.cerintha.com. for 208.237.132.secnap.net. PTR record:
Reports secnap2.secnap.net.

Answer:
208.237.120.132 PTR record: secnap2.secnap.net. [TTL 3600s]
[A=208.237.120.132]


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo Groups.

2003-07-22 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

I'm running WebBoard. 

Advantage:

You can 'subscribe' to the list and read/reply as before.
You can open the board using NNTP newsreaders (e.g., Outlook Express)
You can read/reply/post/search on the web - and have attachments.
It's a threaded board - no need to quote entire messages just to add I
agree.

Most importantly, one can have multiple sections (e.g., New Beta Features,
Sample Configurations, Bug Reports, Enhancements) as well as read-only
sections where Scott could post announcements, etc.

Disadvantage - to subscribe you first need to set up a user profile.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 01:36 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo Groups.


No thanks.  This is less than ideal, but I like Yahoo Groups even less.  I
am also not in favour of a Wiki board, because I mistrust the nature of it,
that is, the ability for anyone to modify any post.  Declude JunkMail is a
small fish in a big ocean, but remember that the spammers won't like us.
Giving them the ability to delete our reference work is double plus ungood.


Adding security on top of that will make unwanted work for somebody.  There
must be other more appropriate message board based products, and I suspect
that John T. will implement something along those lines.

Andrew..

-Original Message-
From: Rifat Levis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 5:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo Groups.


Hi ,

I dont know if anyone else has made a suggestion like this.

Do you think that we can move the declude list to yahoo for the following
reasons.

People can put their config files and share it with others, we can use the
database feature. Using the bookmarks ,we can put the link to some
interesting web pages , etc.

The final decision belong to Scott of course.


Regards
Rifat Levis



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Musical MX Records

2003-07-18 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Pat:

 The fix is for the client to firewall block IPs that aren't mine but this
doesn't feel right. 

Why not? If INDEED their IP address is not listed on any domain's MX record,
then this server should indeed only accept contacts from your IP range.  Any
other contact is either a SPAM, dictionary, virus or hack attack.  Not only
does it feel right - but it is recommend practice to block ANY ports (and/or
addresses) that are not used for legitimate purposes on a particular
machine.

As far as that server still being used..., yes, that is somewhat unusual.
However, possible explanations include that the machine is or once was an
open proxy, an open relay (and thus is traded between spammers as a known
friendly entity), or, that the client has OTHER domain names that may have
MX record pointing to this server.  Finally, without knowing the domain
names, we even have to allow for the fact, that not all authoritative name
servers have current and valid zone information.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 05:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Musical MX Records


I run a gateway configuration with clients changing their entire MX record
to my servers, which in turn point back to the client's server.  In this
way, clients don't need to change anything else on their end and everyone is
happy.  The original email server stays wide open and no one is the wiser,
until:

A client changed their MX record away from me, then later back to me (they
tried to go it alone).  Since then, spammers have been sending some spam
directly to their server, ignoring the MX record and bypassing my
servers/filters all together.  I wasn't to worried about it until it
happened again, a different clients ISP accidentally changed the MX record,
then switched it back - and spam started going around.

The fix is for the client to firewall block IPs that aren't mine but this
doesn't feel right.  Is there something about DNS/MX switching that might
explain how a spammer was able to target a clients IP address based soley on
on/off/on record change?  

Thanks
Dan



On Friday, July 18, 2003 10:22, Russ Uhte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

What is happening here is that the spammer is using their own software
(spamware) to send the spam.  Knowing that many people don't scan E-mail

that comes through their backup mailserver(s), their spamware chooses to 
try the backup mailservers first.

If your Exchange server isn't running any anti-spam or anti-virus, I 
would
recommend removing it from the MX record.

Here's my .02.  Usually this spamware will do a normal DNS lookup and
choose the MX record with the highest priority (which is wrong.)  Make a 
4th MX record that has the highest priority, and point it at your primary 
mail server.  This will usually trick the spamware into sending to your 
primary mail server, and still keep your redundancy with real
mailservers!!

-Russ


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ORDB problem, slightly off topic

2003-07-18 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



What 
are your Imail settings with respect to relaying?

Looks 
as if you may have defined "permit for local hosts" - which is misleading, 
because all it requires is that the sender use one of your domain names to be 
able to relay through your system.

You 
need to either do NOT allow relaying (and have your dial-upusers use SMTP 
AUTH) and/or only allow relaying based on specific IP addresses (your own and 
any trusted IP blocks).
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Glenn BrooksSent: Friday, July 18, 2003 09:01 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] ORDB problem, slightly off topicWe got 
  listed on the ORDB database as a mail relay...everywhere I test mail relay, it 
  says we are not running a relay. When looking at the logs...it appears ORDB 
  can get my mail server to mail to their email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from my [EMAIL PROTECTED]you can see the report at: http://ordb.org/lookup/?host=216.165.193.28I can 
  not for the life of me block this action for retesting by ORDBI have had 
  ORDB retest 5 times...and it still goes through.anyone have 
  any suggestions
  Glenn BrooksWebWize, Inc.713-688-4382http://www.webwize.com 



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] I HATE these......

2003-06-30 Thread Andy Schmidt
100124,1011 is a valid CompuServe ID account format and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] the valid compuserve email address format - not
at all toomanynumbersbeforethe@'.  

In Europe, you will often see:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also a perfectly valid email address for the largest European provider.

Even in the U.S., you can see those kind of email addresses, e.g., for email
accounts associated with cell phones, DSL numbers etc.

Best Regards
Andy


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of paul
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 05:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] I HATE these..


Everyone, As I'm not up-to-date with all the latest beta bits etc., here's a
quick question:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [68.154.27.18]

What is the best way to block these? I've seen so much junk from these types
of addresses it makes me sick! Now each address has a different # before the
@, and different IP, I could crank up SPAMDOMAINS to be a larger fail if NOT
compuserve, but moreso my question is - Is there currently a test, or will
there be a test, like TOOMANY NUMBERSINADDRESS to catch this sort of stuff?
Just as soon as the SPAMDOMAINS is raised they'll no doubt change the name
to something else, but continue to use #s before the @.

Thanks!

Paul


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Another Spamdomain entry

2003-06-25 Thread Andy Schmidt
shaw.ca shawcable.net


Best Regards
Andy 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS sprintpcs.com

2003-06-24 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

Actually, your sprintPCS email did NOT have ANY valid Reverse DNS according
to the header you included:

X-Note: This E-mail was sent from [No Reverse DNS] ([63.167.114.16]).


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sheldon Koehler
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS sprintpcs.com


I have two today that I question. First it seems sprintpcs.com is coming
from not only sprint.com but sprintip.com:

Received: from Hyperion.tenforward.com [65.161.10.61] by tenforward.com with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.15) id A859C0A90086; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:24:41 -0700
Received: from dedicated59-bos.wh.sprintip.net (unknown [63.167.114.16])  by
Hyperion.tenforward.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42663AE0B  for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:24:38 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from TRAVELERS (000-116-823.area7.spcsdns.net [68.25.203.238])  by
dedicated59-bos.wh.sprintip.net  (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16
(built May 14 2003))  with ESMTPA id
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Tue, 24 Jun 2003 01:24:38 + (GMT)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:24:29 -0700
From: traveler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: delivery problem please help
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-version: 1.0
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
Content-type: multipart/mixed;
boundary=Boundary_(ID_CWjq/YnYkzKdW4cfcZlOYw)
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-priority: Normal
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [63.167.114.16]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for Viruses and found clean.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from [No Reverse DNS] ([63.167.114.16]).
X-Spam-Prob: 0.000430
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: U
X-UIDL: 319667998

Would the SD.TXT file work with:

sprintpcs.comsprint

No punctuation or anything? How about:

sprintsprint

And then Prodigy strikes again with:

Received: from Hyperion.tenforward.com [65.161.10.61] by tenforward.com with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.15) id A57C14C20150; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 05:35:08 -0700
Received: from pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (pimout6-ext.prodigy.net
[207.115.63.78])
 by Hyperion.tenforward.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5094D3ACEB  for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 05:35:06 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from compaq (adsl-65-43-166-101.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net
[65.43.166.101])
 by pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h5OCZ46r029590  for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:35:04 -0400
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Joan Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fw: Undeliverable Mail
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:35:27 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [207.115.63.78]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for Viruses and found clean.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from pimout6-ext.prodigy.net ([207.115.63.78]).
X-Spam-Prob: 0.000430
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: U
X-UIDL: 319668419

Is Ameritech part of Prodigy/Yahoo? What a mess...


Sheldon


Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com
Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
Nationwide access, neighborhood support!

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause
and reflect. Mark Twain


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting problems

2003-06-24 Thread Andy Schmidt
Yes, that is a problem.  

Ideally, the postmaster should be white listed conditionally - e.g., if
it is the ONLY recipient, then it is white listed - however, if the email
has multiple recipient, then it is not white listed.

I could then add this to our email policy and any automated notices: if
people want to send email to postmaster and bypass any blocks, then it
cannot contain any other recipients.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sheldon Koehler
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting problems


It seems some spammers are figuring out that postmaster is whitelisted.
Therefor they are making sure postmaster is in the CC or BCC field as in the
headers below. Then everyone gets the spam email!!!

Any ideas on how to keep this from happening?


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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 03 14:29:57 GMT
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700
MIME-Version: 1.0
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X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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Sheldon


Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com
Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
Nationwide access, neighborhood support!

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] VIAGRA won't die

2003-06-24 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



yes, 
email from Europe or Quebec may use ISO encoding to includenational 
language characters.

Or 
email where the subject line refers to individuals with foreignnames or 
places, e.g.
 SUBJECT: Meeting at 1 PM with Mr. 
Déjà


Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Mike GableSent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 01:21 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] VIAGRA won't die
  
  Apparently, this 
  means "Generic Viagra" as revealed in the Declude Log 
file:
  
  =?iso-8859-1?B?R2VuZXJpYyBWaWFncmE=?=
  
  What can you do 
  about obfuscated subjects using ISO character sets? I was thinking of 
  filtering them based on partial string, like this:
  
  SUBJECT 30 
  CONTAINS=?iso-8859
  
  Is it safe 
  tofilter this? In other words,would alegitimateor 
  casual sender ever use such a method to display a subject? Is 
  there a list of ISO charcter sets that can be filtered?
  
  Thanks!
  
  Mike


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Challenge Response- No way to win

2003-06-17 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



The 
key is to use Challenge/Response systems ONLY if the sender is questionable, 
e.g., is an open relay, has no Reverse DNS, has a bogus HELO, 
etc.

This 
way, the sending party has the option to properly set up a COMPLIANT mail server 
and they will NOT have to deal with responding to any challenges. If they 
want to conduct eCommerce, let's get it right. If they don't, then they deserve 
that their emails are treated as "questionable" and may never get 
delivered.
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Kami RazvanSent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 04:15 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] Challenge Response- No way to win
  Hi;
  
  Look at the new 
  challenge response we just received. There is no way to fix this 
  problem.
  
  
  
  -
  *** Attention! ***
  In order to complete delivery of your email to [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] please reply on this 
  message by typing the following passcode on the first line. Please reply 
  within 4 day(s) to avoid automatic deletion of your original email. Keep this 
  text in your reply.
  -
  MailSword_Code:
  6482
  -- MailSword 1.20 Beta --
  MailSword_Verify: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  MailSword_Original_Message_Id: 348618345
  MailSword_Local_Message_Id: ###91FD7332###
  ===
  Now there is a 
  code that you have to type before your message is delivered.
  eCommerce is 
  dead!
  Regards,
  Kami


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains lookup timeout

2003-06-14 Thread Andy Schmidt
Markus,

The idea is, that we don't want to block VALID email.  So, if a reverse
lookup times out, there is no way to determine if there is no valid match
and we can't just assume that it is SPAM.

Time-outs could be temporary problems with a particular DNS server, it could
be a routing problem on the Internet - any number of reasons.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 09:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains lookup timeout


Hi all, 

I'm not sure about this, but I've seen some spam messages coming from
domains contained in our sd-file. (hotmail.com) However the messages hasn't
failed the SPAMDOMAINS test.

For example from the Sender-IP: 218.25.255.18

Can it be, because it's not possible to finish the REVDNS-query?

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=218.25.255.18


Question? 
If it's so, that a timeout in a REVDNS-query doesn't trigger the test, can
we change this, so that a timeout triggers the test? 
What if a query for a legit sender-IP times out?
Why a REVDNS-query can time out? Isn't so, that any reachable IP is assigned
to someone?

Markus


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS

2003-06-14 Thread Andy Schmidt
I decided against notifying the recipient for Vulnerabilities.  Apparently,
vulnerabilities are essentially spam - and notifying the recipient would
mean that they end up getting an unwanted message after all.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 03:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS


 I have seen it discussed as something some wanted, but I never saw
anything
 talking about being able to use a vulnerability.eml file in a release 
 of Declude. I tried searching the archives but vulnerability.eml 
 actually shows every email with vulnerability in it which is a lot 
 of mail. Also
I
 didn't see anything on declude.com/Virus/manual.htm about it.
 
 Is this in 1.70beta ? Is it new?

It is not new, but included as of about 1.65 I think. I use it quite
successfully.

Here is my vulnerability.eml file:

___
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEDOESNOTHAVE  Vulnerability
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: %ALLRECIPS%,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: We blocked an e-mail sent to you!

Delivery blocked: %ALLRECIPS%

The mail server for %LOCALHOST% scans each e-mail for Viruses, SPAM (Junk
Mail) and e-mail vulnerabilities.

We caught an e-mail addressed to you that is formatted with %VIRUSNAME%, and
have quarantined it for your protection.

If you recognize the below information as a valid e-mail that you want or
should have received, please let us know. Otherwise, the e-mail will be
deleted after 3 days.

FROM: %MAILFROM%
TO: %ALLRECIPS%
SUBJECT: %SUBJECT%
Remote IP: %REMOTEIP%

DATE: %DATE% @ %TIME%

SPOOL FILE: %QUEUENAME%

Headers of the e-mail in question:

%HEADERS%
___

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


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[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Garbled Variables

2003-06-13 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Hi 
Scott:

I noticed that most 
email coming from the t-online servers have mangled X-Declude Headers, e.g. the 
Reverse DNS is always replaced with the trailing end of the first "Received" 
time-stamp and the beginning of the Message-ID or whichever header happens to 
follow, e.g. 

 
"31:22 +0200 \n Message-ID: 0 " or
 
"53:02 +0200 \n Reply-To: in" etc

Also, the 
X-Countries has a "null string".

I 
have:
XINHEADERX-Declude: Version %VERSION%; 
%QUEUENAME% from %REVDNS% [%REMOTEIP%]XINHEADERX-Declude: Triggered 
%TESTSFAILED% [%WEIGHT%]XINHEADERX-Countries: 
%COUNTRYCHAIN%XINHEADERReturn-Path: 
%MAILFROM%


Here are TWO 
different emails from two different senders using the same 
provider:

Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com 
[194.25.134.81] by hm-software.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id 
A88AF4F0076; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:31:38 -0400Received: from 
fwd07.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp 
id 19QtKs-0005Fh-04; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:31:38 +0200Received: from 
harald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]]) 
by fwd07.sul.t-online.comwith smtp id 19QtKc-1MKVvM0; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 
20:31:22 +0200Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: 
"Harald_Mergard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(Harald_Mergard)To: "Andy A Schmidt" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fw:_element_5_Marketing_Agreement_-_Marketingunterst=FCtzu?==?iso-8859-1?Q?ng=2C_die_sich_lohnt!?=Date: 
Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:31:21 +0200MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: 
multipart/mixed;boundary="=_NextPart_000_002A_01C331EA.C01C8A30"X-Priority: 
3X-MSMail-Priority: NormalX-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 
6.00.2800.1158X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE 
V6.00.2800.1165X-Seen: falseX-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Declude: 
Version 1.70i11; D188a0f4f0076db0f.SMD from 31:22 +0200Message-ID: 0 
[194.25.134.81]X-Declude: Triggered Whitelisted [0]X-Countries: 
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-RCPT-TO: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Status: 
UX-UIDL: 353555725



Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com 
[194.25.134.20] by hm-software.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id 
A1017DAF0072; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 04:53:21 -0400Received: from 
fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp 
id 19QkJF-0003TD-04; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:53:21 +0200Received: from 
gerharddell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]]) 
by fwd04.sul.t-online.comwith smtp id 19QkIw-0YPJQG0; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 
10:53:02 +0200Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(Gerhard Huss)To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
mechanik-fruehwein.deDate: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:54:27 +0200Message-ID: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]MIME-Version: 
1.0Content-Type: 
text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 
8bitX-Priority: 3 (Normal)X-MSMail-Priority: NormalX-Mailer: 
Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)Importance: 
NormalX-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.X-Seen: 
falseX-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Declude: 
Version 1.70i11; D91017daf00726e29.SMD from 53:02 +0200Reply-To: inf 
[194.25.134.20]X-Declude: Triggered Whitelisted [0]X-Countries: 
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-RCPT-TO: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Status: 
UX-UIDL: 353555634


Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Using SPAMDOMAINS and negative weights?

2003-06-09 Thread Andy Schmidt
 Would it? 

In my opinion, yes.

What he basically wants is:

A) if domain does not appear in the SPAMDOMAINS file, then the weight should
remain uneffected (the outcome is: N/A - Not applicable).

B) if domain DOES appear in SPAMDOMAINS file and matches, then credit is
given for good behavior

C) if domain DOES appear in SPAMDOMAINS file and mismatches, then weight is
added for bad behavior.

It does make sense to me that these comparative tests against a filtered
list (e.g., the SPAMDOMAIN file) could have the does not apply outcome
where NO weight is modified.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 04:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Using SPAMDOMAINS and negative weights?



  The problem here is that instead of having a test with 2 results
(pass/fail), you've got a test with 3 results (pass/fail/na).  That 
would require a major change to the Declude architecture to handle. 

But it would make sense G.

Would it?

The only tests I can think of that can have more than 2 different outcomes 
would be set up as multiple tests.

In the meantime, couldn't he define the test TWICE, once assigning a 
positive weight for failure and one with a negative weight for 
non-failure?

Not the way I am looking at it.  This would have the same effect as having 
the test defined once, with both a weight for failure and a negative weight 
for non-failure.

What he is talking about is something like having the SPAMDOMAINS test 
being split into 2 tests, one that says For E-mail with a return address 
of yahoo.com or hotmail.com, the E-mail should fail TEST1 if the reverse 
DNS entry doesn't have yahoo.com or hotmail.com in it, and another that 
says All E-mail should fail TEST2 unless it comes from yahoo.com or 
hotmail.com.

I think it might be possible to do this with a filter, but this gets very 
confusing.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list

2003-06-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
Here two big international ones:

t-online.de t-online.com
wanadoo.fr


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 01:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list


Here is my list thus far:

amazon.com
aol.com
apple.com
att.
attbi.com
bellsouth.net
charter.net
comcast.
compuserve.com
cox.
earthlink.
excite.com
gte.
hotmail.com
juno.com  .untd.com
lycos.com
microsoft.com
mindspring.
msn.com   .hotmail.com
netscape.
psi.
qwest.
.rr.com
verio.
verizon.  .bellatlantic.
yahoo.com

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Scott MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list


 If someone has a comprehensive spamdomains listing they are happy 
 with,could they post it for others to analyze/use?

 At 10:36 AM 5/30/2003, Bill Landry wrote:

 One comment.  Instead of having:
 
 yahoo.com
 yahoo.ca yahoo.com
 yahoo.de yahoo.com
 yahoo.dk yahoo.com
 yahoo.es yahoo.com
 yahoo.fr yahoo.com
 yahoo.it yahoo.com
 yahoo.no yahoo.com
 yahoo.se yahoo.com
 yahoo.co.jp yahoo.com
 yahoo.co.uk yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.ar yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.au yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.br yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.cn yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.hk yahoo.com
 yahoo.co.kr yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.mx yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.tw yahoo.com
 
 Why not just consolidate this down to:
 
 yahoo.yahoo.com
 
 Bill
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 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 7:20 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list
 
 
   Attached is a list of spamdomains and their coresponding aliases 
   that
I've
 compiled thus far.  Anybody want to comment or expand upon this?
  
   Bill
  
  
  
  
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] More Spam Tests?

2003-06-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

This tool did some filtering that may be of interest to you?

*  3.5 -- Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook
*  0.5 -- Message has X-MSMail-Priority, but no X-MimeOLE

I'm enclosing the header and their entire assessment of this message (it
had a fake sender, so the bounce got back to me).

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tue Jun  3 13:58:37 2003
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by polaris.dazza.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A0425410A
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue,  3 Jun 2003 13:58:37
-0700 (PDT)
Received: by polaris.dazza.org (Postfix, from userid 79)
id 2EC3725410B; Tue,  3 Jun 2003 13:58:36 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] by polaris.dazza.org
with SpamAssassin (2.55 1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp);
Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:58:36 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: *SPAM* Approved
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:56:05 --0700
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=8.5 required=5.0
tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,INVALID_DATE,
  MIME_MISSING_BOUNDARY,MISSING_MIMEOLE,NO_REAL_NAME,
  RAZOR2_CHECK
version=2.55
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--=_3EDD0BFC.2FD31CBE
X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

=_3EDD0BFC.2FD31CBE
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

 Start SpamAssassin results
8.50 points, 5 required;
*  0.8 -- From: does not include a real name
*  0.6 -- Invalid Date: header (not RFC 2822)
*  0.2 -- RAW: MIME section missing boundary
*  2.1 -- Listed in Razor2, see http://razor.sf.net/
*  0.8 -- Date: is 6 to 12 hours before Received: date
*  3.5 -- Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook
*  0.5 -- Message has X-MSMail-Priority, but no X-MimeOLE


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[Declude.JunkMail] Apparent Problem with REVDNS Filter in Version 1.70i2

2003-06-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

Here are three relevant lines of the WEIGHTFILTER.TXT:

#16:
#17:REVDNS   4  ENDSWITH.in-addr.arpa
#18:

DNSStuff reports a valid REVDNS:
12.29.228.5 PTR record: oldtfw04.pearsontc.com. [TTL 86400s] [A=12.29.228.5]

Yet, the mail failed WEIGHTFILTER at line 17.

See the log filter - the ONLY place where I see the string in-addr.arpa is
in your ID: field - behind some apparent garbled caharacters.  Is there a
problem with the REVDNS ENDSWITH filter, e.g., some buffer overrun?

06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 HELOBOGUS:3 HEUR10:4 WEIGHTFILTER:4 .
Total weight = 11
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 Msg failed HELOBOGUS (Domain
oldtms705.pearsontc.com has no MX or A records.). Action=WARN.
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 Msg failed HEUR10 (Heuristic spam
detection level 10 [1.00]). Action=IGNORE.
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 Msg failed WEIGHTFILTER (Message
failed WEIGHTFILTER test (17)). Action=IGNORE.
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 Msg failed WEIGHTREPORT (Total weight
between 11 and 15.). Action=ALERT.
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Total weight
between 10 and 19.). Action=SUBJECT.
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 Subject: Screen shots: Merrill Lynch
store
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 12.29.228.5 ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]5.228.29.12.in-addr.arpa


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

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[Declude.JunkMail] %HELOHOST% in Virus Recipient Notifications - Suggestion

2003-06-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

Thanks to the 1.70i4 mishap we finally had the rare opportunity, to actually
receive some of these viruses that normally get blocked by Declude.  I
noticed, that our recipient notifications use the following variables:

  %REMOTEHOST%, %SENDERHOST%, %LOCALHOST%, %RECIPHOST%

But none of them list the HELO name used by the infected workstation
(which, in case of BugBear.B may show me the name of the Windows Workstation
who's spreading the virus.)

Scott, I noticed that the above four variables are 50% redundant - yet, none
of them truly inserts the sender host (e.g., the configured name used in
the HELO).

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: Postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 02:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Virus Firewall has Blocked an Email to You


Argos Networks' Virus Firewall has rejected an incoming message sent to 1
recipient(s). It was using a from address of [Forged]. (Please note, some
vira have the ability to forge the email address of the sender.)

 
The message with the subject of virus bei mir angekommen carried a virus:

  File:   Old Excel Documents.lnk.zlo
  Result: Found the W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] virus !!!

For more information see http://vil.mcafee.com/.
 
 
TRACKING INFORMATION
 
  Their Domain:  t-online.de for t-online.de (may be forged!)
  IP Address:194.25.134.80 
  Message ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Our Domain:hm-software.com for hm-software.com
  Queue ID:  Ddbd212f50202d9a9.SMD of 06/06/2003 14:22:14
  Version:   1.70


TRACKING FORGED SENDERS

If the infected email came from a forged sender, then it is often
impractical to track down the actual infected party.  The following two
links can help identify either the ISP or the organisation, who owns the IP
address that the infected party was using:

  http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=194.25.134.80
  http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=194.25.134.80


IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTICE

As a courtesy to customers, we attempt to block incoming vira before they
reach your mailbox.  However, Argos Networks cannot warrant that this will
always be successful.  We do not accept any liability in case a virus passes
through.  You are solely responsible for taking your own protective measures
to avoid any infections of your computers.
 
 
Sincerely,
Argos Networks
http://www.ArgosWeb.net/



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best use of Header and total Weight

2003-06-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
In the Global.cfg have:

WEIGHTHDR   weightrange x   x   6   7

In your $Default$.Junkmail have:

WEIGHTHDR   WARNX-RBL-Warning: Failed %TESTSFAILED% [%WEIGHT%]


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Purtell
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 04:52 PM
To: Declude JunkMail (E-mail)
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Best use of Header and total Weight


I'm trying to come up with the best way to insert a header into the body of
our incoming corporate email, which will tell the recipient that the
sender's message has almost acquired enough weight to be deleted. The header
should only appear if the email is within a few points of deletion. I
understand how to use the HEADER action as described in the manual. It's
making it contingent on the WEIGHT variable that I'm not sure about. Just
upgraded to the Pro version. Archive still down.

Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is
for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential
and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or
distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please
contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original
message.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Non-unique MessageID vs. BADHEADERS ?

2003-06-04 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Hi 
Scott:

Shouldn't this message ID cause a "BADHEADERS" 
failure:

Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

since 
"athlon" is not guaranteed to be a unique occurrence (because it's not a 
FQDN)?

-Original Message-
Received: 
from athlon [208.169.85.246] by hm-software.com (SMTPD32-7.07) id 
A2D53DD0246; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:11:17 -0400x-esmtp: 0 0 1Message-ID: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Return-Receipt-To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Errors-to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Return-Path: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Organization: 
Ingresos por InternetDisposition-Notification-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: 
"Julio" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
=?iso-8859-15?Q?Gane_$40,000_d=F3lares_en_60_d=EDas,_garantizado?=Date: Tue, 
3 Jun 2003 13:19:10 -0500MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: 
multipart/alternative; 
boundary="=_NextPart_20918151083799218191033"X-Declude-Note: 
Domain athlon returns a server failure for MX or A records.X-Declude: 
Version 1.70i2; Df2d503dd0246cf62.SMD from (timeout) 
[208.169.85.246]X-Declude: Triggered HELOBOGUS, IPNOTINMX, HEUR8 
[2]X-Countries: UNITED STATES-destinationReturn-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Spam-Prob: 
0.203525X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Status: 
UX-UIDL: 353553890From: Julio 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 
02:19 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Gane 
$40,000 dólares en 60 días, garantizadoImportance: 
Low
¡Gane $40,000 dólares en 60 días, garantizado!
Este mensajese le envía sólo unavez y por lo tanto 
ésta es su única oportunidad! 
Hola amig@ emprendedor@ 
!!
Estamos todos en lo mismo: tratando de 
generar ingresos extras a travéz del Internet, pero sabías que entre todas las 
ofertas de programas para ganar dinero que circulan actualmente en la red, 
existe una que supera a todos los demás y está haciendo furor?
Por qué? Porque puedes comprobar facilmente la honestidad de quien 
te está invitando a participar y la del programa. Recibes tus ganacias directo en la puerta de tu casa, sin 
intermediarios y no tienes que leer mails por míseros centavos, no tienes que 
comprar ni vender costosos productos, no tienes que pagar costosas 
incripciones.
Yo no creia al principio, pero me 
arriesgué y probé y ahora estoy recibiendo mis regalos (US$) directo en casa! 
Es real! Y como realmente se que funciona, me atrevo 
a invitarte, solo debes tener US$ 10 (ó 10 euros) para 
invertir.
Te estoy hablando de ganar $40,000 
dólares en 60 días, !!! garantizado !!!.
Participa, no te 
arrepentirás!
Saludos
Julio

Para más información reenvíe este e-mail colocando en asunto 
"solicito más información"

IMPORTANTE
Solo se enviará mas información si UD. 
lo solicita expresamente
Mis disculpas si con ésto le he causado 
alguna molestia
-
NO SPAM
Su dirección fue obtenida de un sitio público y nuestra 
intención es sólo informarle sobre nuestra propuesta, le pedimos disculpas si 
ésta no resultase de su interés.
A todos los efectos nos adherimos a las consideraciones 
establecidas por el United States Federal Requirements for Commercial E-mail 
Bill, Section 301 párrafo (a) C) de S. 1618 título 3ro, aprobado por el 105 
congreso basado en las normativas internacionales las cuales establecen que un 
email no podrá ser considerado SPAM mientras incluya una forma de ser 
REMOVIDO.
En caso de recibirlo nuevamente seria por un error y si eso 
ocurriera, le pido por favor me lo retorne solicitandome que lo remueva. Sus 
datos no forman parte de ninguna base de datos en mi poder. 
Para dejar de recibir información sobre éste programa, por 
favor reenvíe éste email colocando en asunto la palabra "Remover".
Gracias por su atención.



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-unique MessageID vs. BADHEADERS ?

2003-06-04 Thread Andy Schmidt
Ouch...

So the HELOBOGUS will apply the same logic and NO longer check for BOGUS
host names?

If not - then why doesn't the same logic apply?

Frankly, I rather prefer to have a test that does it advertises to do (e.g.,
check for BAD HEADERS), and then let ME decide via weights, how highly I
want to rate this.  

Remember: Nobody is forced to use the BADHEADERS test - but those who do
should be able to 'rely' on it discovering non-compliancy.  E.g., I might
choose to use is as a NEGATIVE test, where I give email credit for having
valid, compliant headers!

For all other purposes you have the SPAMHEADERS test that is
designed/advertised to be flexible and which is expected to adopt based
on occurrence of certain issues in the wild - so THERE it would make sense
to leave the MessageID FQDN check out of SPAMHEADERS.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 03:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-unique MessageID vs. BADHEADERS ?



Shouldn't this message ID cause a BADHEADERS failure:

Message-ID:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
n

since athlon is not guaranteed to be a unique occurrence (because 
it's
not a FQDN)?

Technically, it should.  :)

We used to have the BADHEADERS test check for this.  However, the problem 
is that probably at least 1/2 of all mail clients are not RFC-compliant, in 
that they use a non-fully-qualified hostname (athlon rather than 
athlon.example.com).  I just checked the last 3 personal E-mails I 
received, and all 3 had Message-ID: headers with a non-fully-qualified 
hostname.

Although we normally like to push people into compliance, this is a war we 
won't be able to win.

-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM - correct?

2003-06-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

No - neither was the case - those were normal firstname.lastname email
addresses.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 08:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM - correct?



So, why did this fail MAILFROM:

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Were there any non-alphanumeric characters in the ...removed... 
section?  For example, if it was [EMAIL PROTECTED]@skanskausa.com or 
user:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED], those could cause 
problems.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SkanskaUSA.com in disarray

2003-06-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Darin,

No - the domain has been back for a while - but it's a terrible mess.  See:
http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=skanskausa.com for an
independent review.

A) their name server lists has the following NS records:

dns-sku-par-0. 
cbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net. 
dbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net. 
cmtu.mt.ns.els-gms.att.net. 
dmtu.mt.ns.els-gms.att.net.

Obivously dns-sku-par-0. is not a valid FQDN - it's missing the domain
portion.

B) their registratr's root server includes an NS record for:

cbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net. [199.191.128.105]

But that server does not respond.

C) their SOA record has a contact of admin, but that's not a valid email
address format!  It must be something like admin.skanskausa.com.

MOST IMPORTANTLY:

D) their name server has an MX pointer for mail.skanskausa.com - but there
is no A record resolving that mail host to an address.  No one can send
any mail to mail.skanskausa.com !


If it makes a difference - I'm sitting on a TON of bounced email intended
for your client (from a client of their's) - they have been trying to
organize a mutual project.  Whoever is assigned to that account at your firm
is not doing their job.  They should charge them for about 2 minutes of
consulting services - that's how little time it takes for someone who is the
least bit knowledgable to straighten out their domain.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin T. Cox
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 09:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM - correct?


Hi Andy,

I believe it should be straightened out now.  Skanska is a customer of ours.
Someone there forgot to renew their domain, so it expired Friday morning.
They quickly re-registered, but the damage was done for a day.  I believe
that's what caused the MAILFROM and HELOBOGUS errors we were receiving when
sending to them.

They've also had periodic problems managing their mail servers, however.
Much of it is probably due to major internal IT restructuring (personnel,
corporate identity, and merging of several separate infrastructures from
mergers) that has been occurring within their organization for the past few
months.

We talk to their IT personnel periodically to help them straighten out these
problems when they occur.

Darin.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Enhancement Request: XUNIQUEINHEADER

2003-05-31 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

Would be nice if Declude could be told not insert a header if one already
exists, e.g.:

XUNIQUEINHEADER Return-Path: %MAILFROM%

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-31 Thread Andy Schmidt
Darrell / Scott:

 We do not whitelist the postmaster account, instead you setup a filter
test that contains an allrecips for the postmasters email address and
assign this test a really high negative value to prevent the message from
being bounced.  Then you set the action up for the test as a routeto back
to the postmasters account. 

Hm - I assume your method only works, if I don't use a DELETE and/or BOUNCE
action directly on individual tests - or will routeto supercede delete
and/or bounce?  

Let's assume...

Bounce on:
Any OSDUL/OSSOFT
Weight = 10

Hold on:
Any MailFrom/Percent

I delete on: 
Weight = 20


If someone needs assistance who gets caught by the MailFrom/Percent or
OSDUL/OSSOFT and all your test does is reduce weights - I assume the
people's emails would still not get through?  So I do need to whitelist the
PostMaster?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list

2003-05-31 Thread Andy Schmidt
Bill,

MX records only tell you where email is SENT to.  It doesn't tell you
anything about OUTBOUND mail.

I have in fact received emails where signed @excite.com but where sent
through the excitenetwork's server.

The only way how you can determine, which other RDNS are used, is by
checking your Declude log files, use FILESTR to find the SPAMDOMAINS
failures and then filter for excite...

Best Regards
Andy 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 03:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list


From what I see, they look to be mutually exclusive:
==
dig mx excite.com

;  DiG 9.2.1  mx excite.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 15919
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;excite.com.IN  MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
excite.com. 900 IN  MX  10 xmxpita.excite.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
excite.com. 900 IN  NS  dns5.imgfarm.com.
excite.com. 900 IN  NS  dns4.imgfarm.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
xmxpita.excite.com. 900 IN  A   208.45.133.107

;; Query time: 81 msec
;; SERVER: 204.189.38.2#53(204.189.38.2)
;; WHEN: Fri May 30 11:50:28 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 114
==
dig mx excitenetwork.com

;  DiG 9.2.1  mx excitenetwork.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2577
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;excitenetwork.com. IN  MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
excitenetwork.com.  300 IN  MX  25 mx.excitenetwork.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
excitenetwork.com.  300 IN  NS  dns5.imgfarm.com.
excitenetwork.com.  300 IN  NS  dns4.imgfarm.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
mx.excitenetwork.com.   300 IN  A   63.108.110.20

;; Query time: 121 msec
;; SERVER: 204.189.38.2#53(204.189.38.2)
;; WHEN: Fri May 30 11:51:56 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 116
==

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list


 Bill,

 You need to update:

 excite.com excitenetwork.com

 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt

 HM Systems Software, Inc.
 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206

 http://www.HM-Software.com/


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 01:16 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list


 Here is my list thus far:

 amazon.com
 aol.com
 apple.com
 att.
 attbi.com
 bellsouth.net
 charter.net
 comcast.
 compuserve.com
 cox.
 earthlink.
 excite.com
 gte.
 hotmail.com
 juno.com  .untd.com
 lycos.com
 microsoft.com
 mindspring.
 msn.com   .hotmail.com
 netscape.
 psi.
 qwest.
 .rr.com
 verio.
 verizon.  .bellatlantic.
 yahoo.com

 Bill
 - Original Message -
 From: Scott MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list


  If someone has a comprehensive spamdomains listing they are happy 
  with,could they post it for others to analyze/use?
 
  At 10:36 AM 5/30/2003, Bill Landry wrote:
 
  One comment.  Instead of having:
  
  yahoo.com
  yahoo.ca yahoo.com
  yahoo.de yahoo.com
  yahoo.dk yahoo.com
  yahoo.es yahoo.com
  yahoo.fr yahoo.com
  yahoo.it yahoo.com
  yahoo.no yahoo.com
  yahoo.se yahoo.com
  yahoo.co.jp yahoo.com
  yahoo.co.uk yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.ar yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.au yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.br yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.cn yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.hk yahoo.com
  yahoo.co.kr yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.mx yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.tw yahoo.com
  
  Why not just consolidate this down to:
  
  yahoo.yahoo.com
  
  Bill
  - Original Message -
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 7:20 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list
  
  
Attached is a list of spamdomains and their coresponding aliases 
that
 I've
  compiled thus far.  Anybody want to comment or expand upon this?
   
Bill
   
   
   
   
  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM - correct?

2003-05-31 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

Granted, based on
http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=skanskausa.com this
domain is a mess - but, it DOES have a MX record and the lowest priority MX
record (5) has an A record and IS even answered. Most of the cc:'s in this
email when to @skanskausa.com and WERE indeed delivered - proving that
MAILFROM is valid.

So, why did this fail MAILFROM:

Received: from mlx-sku-par-1.skubi.com [12.3.242.12] by
mail.webhost.hm-software.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.07) id AC05147F0162; Fri, 30 May 2003 11:43:01 -0400
Received: from mlx-sku-par-1.skubi.com ([127.0.0.1]) by
mlx-sku-par-1.skubi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329);
 Fri, 30 May 2003 11:38:19 -0400
Received: by mlb-sku-par-1.skanskausa.com with Internet Mail Service
(5.5.2653.19)
id L9132BXP; Fri, 30 May 2003 11:41:00 -0400
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: ...removed...
To: ...removed...
Cc: ...removed..., ...removed...
 ...removed..., ...removed...
 ...removed..., ...removed...
 ...removed...
Subject: MDY
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 11:42:01 -0400
Importance: high
X-Priority: 1
Return-Receipt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Content-Type: text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2003 15:38:19.0640 (UTC)
FILETIME=[7EEB4F80:01C326C1]
X-Declude-Note: Domain mlx-sku-par-1.skubi.com has no MX or A records.
X-Declude: Version 1.70i1; D7c05147f0162cb7b.SMD from gateway1.skubi.com
[12.3.242.12]
X-Declude: Triggered MAILFROM, HELOBOGUS, IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT [3]
X-Countries: UNITED STATES-destination
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Spam-Prob: 0.768622


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Autogenerated response

2003-05-30 Thread Andy Schmidt
Challenges should probably be handled like vacation notices - they should
only be sent ONCE per sender.  The sender only has to confirm one
challenge, and all held emails for this sender are released.
 
Like vacation notices, there should be a revolving log file of pending
challenges with the sender email address.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/ 



[Declude.JunkMail] DNSreport.com - suggestion

2003-05-30 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

The following should issue a 'warning' - two MX records pointing to the SAME
IP address offers no benefit (there IS no backup!) but causes unnecessary
retries at times when the server at this IP address doesn't or cannot
answer.

INFO MX Record Your 2 MX records are:
10  post-com.mr.outblaze.com. [TTL=86400]  IP=205.158.62.23 (No Glue)
[TTL=21600]
20  post-com-bk.mr.outblaze.com. [TTL=86400]  IP=205.158.62.23 (No Glue)
[TTL=21600]
 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Autogenerated response

2003-05-30 Thread Andy Schmidt
David,
 
 What happens in challenge/response when you have two challenge/response
mechanisms talking to each other, each wanting a challenge/response to a
challenge/response? Table tennis? 
 
The challenge (or any other alerts/bounce messages) should be sent by from a
service account (e.g., [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.) or
even an unattended (non-existing) account - which is set up to NEVER return
automated emails.  So - even if the other side were to send an automated
email back - at WORST it would end up in the service account but not lead to
an endless confirmation request loop.
 
Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/ 


RE: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] observation to share...

2003-05-29 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi:

 ORDB hatte für den Open-Relay-Check zwei GMX-Adressen verwendet, die
nicht auf SMTP-Auth konfiguriert waren. In der eigenen
Open-Relay-Definition beschreibe ORDB ein solches System aber als einen
Mail-Server, der Nachrichten weiterleite, bei denen weder der Sender noch
der Empfänger ein lokaler Nutzer ist. In den von ORDB dokumentierten Fällen
habe es sich aber eindeutig um local user gehandelt. 

May be there IS more to the story, but, it is expected and normal, that
anyone who gets listed as an open relay will claim that they really were
not and that the process was flawed.  

In reality, ORDB will send a test message to its own server and watch if it
gets delivered. If the round-trip was successful, then the result is a
pretty convincing case of an open relay.

Bottom line, if ORDB found a way/trick to relay a message - then a spammer
will too.  Unless they can show an actual flaw on ORDB's testing method, I
go by the assumption that as long as GMX's server allowed for that way/trick
they rightfully would have been listed.  

It is interesting to note that they eventually resubmitted the server
(presumingly after closing that hole) and they were de-listed.

I do agree, that the lack of a real-time operations center of some of the
databases (some don't even offer contact forms) does make them somewhat
risky to use - but when viewed against the daily benefits, it's a risk worth
taking.


Best Regards
Andy 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 02:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] observation to share...


 I agree completly with scott ,and would like to add that
 deleting mail only with rbl test does not mean anything. 

Today I've read an article on a german website (c't computer magazine)

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/hob-27.05.03-000/

In short there's the information that the big freemailer GMX whas listed
from Sunday evening to Monday in the ORDB blacklist.

GMX some months ago has announced antispam actions since they have the same
problem like msn, aol and co. Last Sunday ORDB has tested a GMX mailserver
positive as an open relay (even if the method of testing is controversial)
GMX was not very happy that ORDB was not reachable over a fast way and
GMX-Admin's has had to fill out the standard form on the ORDB website asking
to be removed as fast as possible.

The result: On Monday a lot of mails was not deliverable because other
mailservers blocked any connection from GMX (based on the ORDB
blacklist)

Markus

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] More Selective Whitelist-TO

2003-03-31 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hm, Scott:

I may be off-base here, but I would imagine this could work:

A) Declude inspects the D... and Q... File, correct?

B) once Declude decides, that there is a TO whitelist for a particular
email, it will determine if the Q file lists more than one R line
(Recipient).

C) if there is MORE than one R, it will create a duplicate of the D... and
Q... File with a new unique name.  In the original Q file the R lines for
the whitelisted entry is removed (thus, the other recipients can be
blocked/processed as originally intended)

D) the newly created Q file ONLY contains the whitelisted R lines so
that the mail can be delivered during the next queue run.


Best Regards
Andy 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] TAIWAN not detected

2003-03-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
Uh - okay. I thought there was a file I had downloaded once before - but
when I saw no mention in the Junkmail/manual.htm I  thought I was
remembering wrong.

Thanks.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 04:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] TAIWAN not detected



The DNSSTUFF IPWHOIS detects 218.187.138.151 as TAIWAY, and NetGeo as 
Australia - however, Declude says APNIC Unlisted?

If you download the all_list.dat file from 
http://www.declude.com/release/165/all_list.dat , it should take care of 
the problem.

The IP/country allocations change occasionally, which can cause this 
discrepancy to occur.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude in the news

2003-03-25 Thread Andy Schmidt
I think it is a good sign that mainstream products are starting to
include DNS BL lookups.  Symantec's products (and similar big names) are
setting somewhat of a de-facto industry standard for the vast majority
of less sophisticated part-time mail administrators who are only
casually interested in email issues. I suspect, this will aid in the
broader proliferation of SPAM filtering, give more credence to open
relay databases - hopefully putting more pressure on innocent open
relay servers to get their act together and in the long run allowing us
to use them more aggressively.

Currently, the usual defense of ignorant administrators running open
relay or RFC non-compliant SMTP servers is that we never had a problem
sending to everyone else - putting US on the defensive trying to
explain why RFCs must be followed so that the variety of hardware,
software, operating system and application brands all can communicate
across the one Internet.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

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[Declude.JunkMail] Why BADHEADER for this?

2003-03-25 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

This one returned code 802c (This E-mail has a bogus Date: header.) -
however, the Date: header does look just fine?

May be the problem is the Subject header - as it appears to wrap around
into a second line?  But, then again, multi-line headers appear to be quite
normal, because even the Received and To headers are multiline?


Received: from exthub02.tgt.com [161.225.2.41] by
mail.webhost.hm-software.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.07) id A0A3F17006E; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:21:55 -0500
Received: from msphub02.tgt.com ([10.104.240.124]) by exthub02.tgt.com with
SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55)
id FKTDP30V; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:27:38 -0600
Received: by msphub02.tgt.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
id FGTAZ922; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:21:51 -0600
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Stacey.Riney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Boehm-Bezing, Inga' [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stacey.Riney
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Richard D'Angelo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MERVYNS CFM SMPL  AD SMPL Style:H-6659F LEA: F/C VOYAGER/ BL
K
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:23:28 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C2F221.B3D37EE0


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Why BADHEADER for this?

2003-03-25 Thread Andy Schmidt
 Are you sure you matched this up correctly? 

Declude Version 1.68i5.
Here is the chain of evidence I followed:

A) The snippet of our own, highly informative, bounce message showing the
DECLUDE variables:

  ... (verbose text omitted) ...

  Mail Server:   161.225.2.41 for target.com [target.com]
  DNS Pointer:   [No Reverse DNS]
  Host Name: exthub02.tgt.com

  Triggers:  BADHEADERS, REVDNS, HELOBOGUS, IPNOTINMX, WEIGHTREPORT,
WEIGHTHDR, WEIGHT10 (Total weight between 10 and 19.)

  More Info: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=161.225.2.41
 (Your server must not be black-listed!)

 http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=161.225.2.41
 (Your server must be properly registered in DNS with a
reverse lookup pointer!)
 
 
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=exthub02.tgt.comtype=A 
 (Your server must have a valid host name!)

  Countries: UNITED STATES-destination
 (Your email should not be routed back and forth between
countries.)

  Message ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Queue ID:  D30a30f17006e558b.SMD on
Maywood-IS-0002.Webhost.HM-Software.com

B) Here a snippet of the matching Declude log:

Please note how the subject line is cut off after BL - exactly at the
same point where the subject header advances to a new line!

03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b BADHEADERS:5 REVDNS:5 HELOBOGUS:3 11:22:05 
Q30a30f17006e558b Msg failed BADHEADERS (This E-mail was
sent from a broken mail client [802c].). Action=WARN.
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was
sent from a MUA/MTA 161.225.2.41 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=ALERT.
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Msg failed HELOBOGUS (Domain
exthub02.tgt.com has no MX or A records.). Action=WARN.
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Msg failed WEIGHTREPORT (Weight of 13
reaches or exceeds the limit of 11.). Action=ALERT.
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Msg failed WEIGHTHDR (Weight of 13
reaches or exceeds the limit of 1.). Action=WARN.
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Total weight
between 10 and 19.). Action=BOUNCE.
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Subject: RE: MERVYNS CFM SMPL  AD
SMPL Style:H-6659F LEA: F/C VOYAGER/ BL
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 161.225.2.41 ID: 
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Msg failed BADHEADERS (This E-mail was
sent from a broken mail client [802c].). Action=WARN.
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was
sent from a MUA/MTA 161.225.2.41 with no reverse DNS entry.). Action=ALERT.
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Msg failed HELOBOGUS (Domain
exthub02.tgt.com has no MX or A records.). Action=WARN.
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Msg failed WEIGHTREPORT (Weight of 13
reaches or exceeds the limit of 11.). Action=ALERT.
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Msg failed WEIGHTHDR (Weight of 13
reaches or exceeds the limit of 1.). Action=WARN.
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Total weight
between 10 and 19.). Action=BOUNCE.
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b Subject: RE: MERVYNS CFM SMPL  AD
SMPL Style:H-6659F LEA: F/C VOYAGER/ BL
03/24/2003 11:22:05 Q30a30f17006e558b From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 161.225.2.41 ID: 

C) Here again the message header as appended by Declude to the Bounce
message:

From/To and Message ID matches the bounce message.  Date/time in the
Received header matches the beginning of the Declude header within 10
seconds.

Received: from exthub02.tgt.com [161.225.2.41] by
mail.webhost.hm-software.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.07) id A0A3F17006E; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:21:55 -0500
Received: from msphub02.tgt.com ([10.104.240.124]) by exthub02.tgt.com with
SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55)
id FKTDP30V; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:27:38 -0600
Received: by msphub02.tgt.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
id FGTAZ922; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:21:51 -0600
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Stacey.Riney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Boehm-Bezing, Inga' [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stacey.Riney
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Richard D'Angelo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MERVYNS CFM SMPL  AD SMPL Style:H-6659F LEA: F/C VOYAGER/ BL
K
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:23:28 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C2F221.B3D37EE0

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[Declude.JunkMail] 1.68 - new variables

2003-03-21 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi:

Adds %IP4R%, %RHSBL%, %MAILFROMBL% and %HELO% variables.

Okay, I can guess what IP4R and HELO inserts - but what do strings do the
two ...BLs insert?

Where are those variables valid?

A) in Declude SMTP headers?

B) in alert/bounce messages templates?

C) in ... ?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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[Declude.JunkMail] Request - TESTSRESULT header variable

2003-03-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

My client try to rely on filtering by looking at the header that I insert
with declude:

XINHEADER   X-Declude: Version %VERSION%; %QUEUENAME% from
%REVDNS% [%REMOTEIP%]
XINHEADER   X-Declude: Failed %TESTSFAILED% [%WEIGHT%]
XINHEADER   X-Countries: %COUNTRYCHAIN%
XINHEADER   Return-Path: %MAILFROM%

The problem is with the 
XINHEADER   X-Declude: Failed %TESTSFAILED% [%WEIGHT%]

They used to be able to use Outlook to trigger on X-Declude: Failed and
then flag messages as low importance, reset the new message flag or even
sort it to a different order.  But unfortunately this line will also be set
off by WHITELISTED[0] or NOTINMIX[-3] - where they do NOT indicate SPAM.

So - how about you could distinguish between real FAILURES (e.g., NOT
including the whitelist and not include total weights that are equal/less
than 0), e.g. a  %TESTSRESULT%  variable that inserts the string PASSED
(if whitelisted or total weight = 0) or the string FAILED in any other
case that at least one test failed. 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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[Declude.JunkMail] IP WhiteList or PASS Action

2003-03-17 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

I'm trying to come up with a scheme that lets me whitelist certain IP
addresses PER DOMAIN.

Of course, I probably could use something like that in the default Junkmail
file of a domain folder:

WHITELIST ipfile C:\IMail\Declude\ipwhitelist.txt x -20 0

However, that will not truly work as a whitelist - because I hold or
delete for certain tests (e.g., MAILFROM).  Reducing the weight will be
ineffective. 

Going through the Declude manual I noticed that two features would be
helpful:

A) an IP whitelist to match the IP blacklist feature

B) a new PASS action.  Then I could (ab)use the ipfile option to define
an IP whitelist and define the PASS action (to let mail pass), which
hopefully would supercede all other actions based on other tests.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] TMDA style test...

2003-03-17 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

 decided to keep a list of all the E-mail addresses that sent 
SpamArrest users E-mail, and then started spamming them!  Because of that, 
a lot of people are leery about responding to confirmation requests. 

Which of course is not really an issue.  By the time the INITIAL email is
received at the provider, that provider ALREADY has the email address. If
they have malicious intents with their clients' email addresses then they
would not need to wait for the confirmations.

Personally, I WISH there was an automated feature in Declude that would
allow a person to respond to a challenge and auto-list their sender for
that particular user.  The list would have columns (for most recently used
and denied).  The denied column would allow us to override the
confirmation, the MRU list would help to eventually expire unused entries.

Any feature where future false positives can be reduced and their
management can be totally automated is highly desirable and worth an upgrade
charge.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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[Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Declude as Gateway?

2003-03-15 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

I'm trying to set up Declude Junkmail and Virus as a gateway for one of
my customers.  (All my other customers use mailboxes on my Imail server,
but this one has their own exchange server).

The Imail gateway function is set up and works fine, e.g., the MX is
pointing to MY Imail machine, and the HOSTS file has a line for the
domain pointing to their exchange server's IP.  Their email is routed
properly.

However, Declude is acting unexpectedly:

- Junkmail: Doesn't seem to scan for or block any spam (as far as I can
tell from the log files) - Imail simply rdelivers every message to their
exchange server without ever logging at loglevel mid.

- Virus: Doesn't seem to scan any mails - Declude simply logs Skipping
virus scanning for outgoing E-mail.


For Virus I have scanning for outbound messages turned OFF.  Shouldn't
Declude scan the messages when they are received by Imail?

For JunkMail, I have very little outbound scanning defined in
Global.cfg:

MAILFROMSUBJECT [Invalid Sending Domain!]  
BADHEADERS  WARN
SPAMHEADERS WARN
SPAMROUTING WARN
REVDNS  WARN
PERCENT HOLD

But I don't even see a log entry, if I intentionally send an email where
the MAILFROM is bogus.


What am I doing wrong?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

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[Declude.JunkMail] Weight Filter - Sample List

2003-02-04 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

this list has served me well so far:

HELO8   CONTAINS$domain

REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.a83c9d.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.are.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.azogle.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.bestpost.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.bigtimevalues.com
REVDNS  20  IS  casinoandcash.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.consumerinfo.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.DailyInBox.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.dartmail.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.dealcop.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.deliverenetworks.com
REVDNS  6   ENDSWITH.dsl-verizon.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.easymailers.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.email-specials.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.emailcourrier.com
REVDNS  8   CONTAINS.emailoffers
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.emailsvc.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.emipsusa.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.etransmail5.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.evaluemail.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.greatofferstoday.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.hispeedmediaoffers.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.hot-info.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.IConNet.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.ioffersdirect.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.mail-gw.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.mailmalls.net
REVDNS  8   IS  mediaprint.lt
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.my-specials.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.obdirectmail.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.offer-exchange.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.offersonthenet.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.oneoffer.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.owe-less.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.primetimedirect.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.ramosglobalmarketing.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.real-net.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.roving.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.specialoffers4you.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.steamyxxxads.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.superstorespecials.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.temd.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.tepmail.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.tiburondeltigre.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.truemail.net
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.virtual-domain.com
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.webmailer.de
REVDNS  8   ENDSWITH.xpwebnet.com

HEADERS 3   CONTAINScharset=euc-kr
HEADERS 3   CONTAINScharset=big5

COUNTRIES   3   CONTAINScn
COUNTRIES   3   CONTAINSkr
COUNTRIES   2   CONTAINSbr
COUNTRIES   2   CONTAINShk
COUNTRIES   2   CONTAINSru
COUNTRIES   2   CONTAINStw
COUNTRIES   2   CONTAINSuy

attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Comments

2003-02-04 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 not one message deleted by Declude was a false positive 

John, how would you know - since they were DELETED and you have no way to
determine their content after the fact?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reject Msg based on Size

2003-02-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Why not control the message size in Imail - you can set it per domain and, I
believe, per user.

If the message exceeds the max message size, Imail will reject it - and it
will result in a bounce from the SENDING server.

In fact, Imail's ESMTP will announce the max message size to the sending
server so that it can be rejected BEFORE it is transmitted (at EHLO time!)

Best Regards
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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Reject Msg based on Size

2003-02-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Sorry - I can't tell whether your old Imail 5 has that feature - or, whether
it was added in Version 6 or 7.  I would consult IPswitch's web site for
historic information going that many years back.  I started with Imail 4 and
don't recall if/that it WAS added after that - but I may not have paid
attention.

Best Regards
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reject Msg based on Size

2003-02-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
 These are just the defaults for creating new users,
The limits themselves are actually set on the userlevel. 

No - they are NOT.

I went through this with IPSwitch when messages were rejected for an inbound
IP address (IP bound domain), even though the VIRTUAL domain and INDIVIDUAL
users were defined for HIGHER limits.  The IP bound level is the UPPER limit
for ALL virtual domains and users.

IPswitch (in EHLO mode) announces the max message size defined for that IP
address - causing other ESMTP servers to ABORT the transmission even BEFORE
the recipient domain and user are identified!

They considered that a documentation problem.

Best Regards
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[Declude.JunkMail] DNSstuff IPWHOIS lookup - constructs bad URL for cache off

2003-01-30 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

I believe I found a bad link in your IPWHOIS lookup.

I had to update my SWIP entry and your site had cached the old answer.  When
trying to use the get fresh results link - I suddenly ended up on a screen
that convinced me that my Backbone Provider had deleted my entry entirely.

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=65.119.204.0
lists the correct swip entry.

Following the link to:
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=!NET-65-119-204-0-1server=whois.a
rin.net
I had been showing the old/incorrect information (by now it does show the
correct info, because I found out the RIGHT way how to refresh your cache -
read on)

All the while, I had been following the link to cache off - which
constructs THIS URL:
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?domain=!NET-65-119-204-0-1cache=off

The resulting display of
NetRange:   0.0.0.0 - 0.255.255.255
CIDR:   0.0.0.0/8
NetName:RESERVED-1
NetHandle:  NET-0-0-0-0-1
caused me to think that MY entry !NET-65-119-204-0-1 was bad/deleted. I
never even bothered verifying your display with ARIN (shame on me).


Notice how your Query Parameters switched
from:
ip=!NET-65-119-204-0-1server=whois.arin.net
to:
domain=!NET-65-119-204-0-1cache=off

Clearly, the switch from ip=!NET... to domain=!NET... is the problem.

If instead, I manually constructed the URL:
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=!NET-65-119-204-0-1server=whois.a
rin.netcache=off
I started seeing the CORRECT information (and it refreshed your cache).

So - I believe in the ip=!NET... detail screen your CACHE OFF link is
constructed incorrectly.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue
Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.hm-software.com/


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Still not using the intended recipient

2003-01-17 Thread Andy Schmidt
Scott,

would you like for me to downloaded a new interim release to CONFIRM that it
has since been fixed (you apparently thought back then, that it had been
fixed already)?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

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Fax:+1 201 934-9206

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Still not using the intended recipient

2003-01-17 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

then - sorry - but i21 still doesn't appear to work:

01/17/2003 13:41:51 Q4e6d4dac00e4e077 WEIGHTFILTER:-20 .  Total weight = -20
01/17/2003 13:41:51 Q4e6d4dac00e4e077 E-mail whitelisted - automatically
passing all spam tests [63.107.174.]
01/17/2003 13:41:51 Q4e6d4dac00e4e077 Subject: Test Email - Please Ignore
01/17/2003 13:41:51 Q4e6d4dac00e4e077 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

even though the email was addressed to my alias domain of:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 01:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Still not using the intended recipient



would you like for me to downloaded a new interim release to CONFIRM that
it
has since been fixed (you apparently thought back then, that it had been
fixed already)?

Sure, you can download the latest interim release at
http://www.declude.com/release/165i/declude.exe .
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How obscene is Basement?

2003-01-16 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Oh, this is all sementics.

:-)

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kami 
  RazvanSent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:31 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] How obscene 
  is Basement?
  Scott...
  Hopefully in one 
  of the future releases we can come up with a filter that works with before and 
  after space..
  
  After all how 
  obscene is the word basement?
  
  Drawings were 
  being sent to me for our office that were not reaching me! Why? 
  the filter:
  
  SUBJECT12 
  CONTAINSsemen
  
  Oh well... its 
  weight was taken down... 
  
  Lesson 
  learned..
  
  Regards,
  Kami


[Declude.JunkMail] Wrong Domain Name Used with 1.65i10

2003-01-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
Scott:

01/06/2003 07:48:50 Q7b294a1d00d4e815 SPAMROUTING:3 WEIGHTFILTER:8 .  Total
weight = 11
01/06/2003 07:48:50 Q7b294a1d00d4e815 Msg failed SPAMROUTING (This E-mail
was routed in a poor manner consistent with spam [210f].). Action=WARN.
01/06/2003 07:48:50 Q7b294a1d00d4e815 Msg failed WEIGHTFILTER (Message
failed WEIGHTFILTER test (31)). Action=IGNORE.
01/06/2003 07:48:50 Q7b294a1d00d4e815 Msg failed WEIGHTREPORT (Weight of 11
reaches or exceeds the limit of 11.). Action=ALERT.
01/06/2003 07:48:50 Q7b294a1d00d4e815 Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Total weight
between 10 and 19.). Action=BOUNCE.
01/06/2003 07:48:50 Q7b294a1d00d4e815 Subject: EUMEL A1-2 B-2
01/06/2003 07:48:50 Q7b294a1d00d4e815 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

However, the actually recipient domain was NOT

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

it was

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

We have different SPAM settings defined for this domain - so this email
should NOT have been BOUNCED.

Here is the matching IMail log, showing the REAL domain name:

01:06 07:48 SMTPD(4A1D00D4) [63.107.174.78] connect 192.67.198.73 port 33271
01:06 07:48 SMTPD(4A1D00D4) [192.67.198.73] EHLO mailin.webmailer.de
01:06 07:48 SMTPD(4A1D00D4) [192.67.198.73] MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
01:06 07:48 SMTPD(4A1D00D4) [192.67.198.73] RCPT
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
01:06 07:48 SMTPD(4A1D00D4) [192.67.198.73]
D:\IMAIL\spool\D7b294a1d00d4e815.SMD 1913

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wrong Domain Name Used with 1.65i10

2003-01-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

Yes...

LOGFILE D:\imail\spool\dec.log
LOGLEVELMID
LOG_OK  NONE

HOP 0

CONSOLE OFF
XINHEADER   X-Declude: Version %VERSION%; %QUEUENAME% from %REVDNS%
[%REMOTEIP%]
XINHEADER   X-Declude: Failed %TESTSFAILED% [%WEIGHT%]
XINHEADER   X-Countries: %COUNTRYCHAIN%
XINHEADER   Return-Path: %MAILFROM%
XOUTHEADER  X-Note: Report any abuse to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XSENDER OFF
XSPOOLNAME  OFF
SWITCHRECIP ON


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 04:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wrong Domain Name Used with 1.65i10



does it change your mind, if I tell you that before my update to 1.65i10,
Declude WAS correctly using the intended recipient domain when looking up
the Junkmail configuration?

Look at the SAME daily email on 12/23 (the last time this email went
through) and notice how Declude reports the INTENDED domain, not the FINAL
domain:

Are you using the SWITCHRECIP ON option in your \IMail\Declude\global.cfg
file?
-Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] SpamRouting Triggered - all German IPs

2003-01-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

The following header tripped SPAMROUTING.

However,

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=192.67.198.73 is located in
Karlsruhe, Germany
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=217.72.192.180 is located in
Karlsruhe, Germany
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=145.254.191.86 is located in
Eschborn, Germany.

So there is no funny country ping-pong going on!?


Received: from mailin.webmailer.de [192.67.198.73] by hm-software.com with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.07) id A55A29A01A0; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:43:38 -0500
Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [217.72.192.180])
by mailin.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA02895
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:43:05 +0100 (MET)
Received: from [145.254.191.86] (helo=marcus)
by smtp.web.de with smtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.93 #1)
id 18TRMS-0005Rv-00
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:43:32 +0100
Message-ID: 007b01c2b0fc$f76a9640$56bffe91@marcus
Reply-To: Marcus Sopicki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Marcus Sopicki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Uli Grepel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Frohes neues Jahr
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:20:20 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[Declude.JunkMail] DNSREPORT/DNSSTUFF: DNS Lookup is Broken?

2003-01-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=grepel.de

results in:
[ERROR: The root servers say that the domain grepel.de does not have any NS
records (although they may have some other information on that zone). I can
not do a DNS report on a hostname (such as mail.example.com) or a domain
name that does not have its own zone.]

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnstime.ch?name=grepel.detype=SOA

results in:
Searching for SOA record for grepel.de at m.root-servers.net:  Got referral
to DNS.DENIC.de. [took 241 ms]
Searching for SOA record for grepel.de at DNS.DENIC.de.:  Reports no SOA
records (NODATA type 2). 187ms.
Answer: Does not exist.



I've been retrying for 15 minutes or so. Yet, at the same time, following
that same chain MANUALLY:

 nslookup
 server m.root-servers.net.
Default Server:  m.root-servers.net
Address:  202.12.27.33

 set type=soa
 grepel.de.
Server:  m.root-servers.net
Address:  202.12.27.33

de  nameserver = AUTH03.NS.DE.UU.NET
de  nameserver = DNS.DENIC.de
de  nameserver = SUNIC.SUNET.SE
de  nameserver = SSS-AT.DENIC.de
de  nameserver = SSS-NL.DENIC.de
de  nameserver = SSS-DE1.DE.NET
de  nameserver = SSS-UK.DE.NET
de  nameserver = DNS2.DE.NET
de  nameserver = SSS-JP.DENIC.de
de  nameserver = SSS-US1.DE.NET
de  nameserver = SSS-US2.DENIC.de
AUTH03.NS.DE.UU.NET internet address = 192.76.144.16
DNS.DENIC.deinternet address = 194.246.96.79
SUNIC.SUNET.SE  internet address = 192.36.125.2
SSS-AT.DENIC.de internet address = 193.171.255.34
SSS-NL.DENIC.de internet address = 193.0.0.237
SSS-DE1.DE.NET  internet address = 193.159.170.187
SSS-UK.DE.NET   internet address = 62.53.3.68
DNS2.DE.NET internet address = 194.246.96.49
SSS-JP.DENIC.de internet address = 210.81.13.179
SSS-US1.DE.NET  internet address = 206.65.170.100
SSS-US2.DENIC.deinternet address = 167.216.196.131

 server dns.denic.de.
Default Server:  dns.denic.de
Address:  194.246.96.79

 grepel.de.
Server:  dns.denic.de
Address:  194.246.96.79

de
primary name server = dns.denic.de
responsible mail addr = ops.denic.de
serial  = 2003010330
refresh = 10800 (3 hours)
retry   = 7200 (2 hours)
expire  = 360 (41 days 16 hours)
default TTL = 86400 (1 day)



Is your DNSREPORT/DNSSTUFF lookup broken?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206



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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamRouting Triggered - all German IPs



http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=192.67.198.73 is located in
Karlsruhe, Germany
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=217.72.192.180 is located in
Karlsruhe, Germany
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=145.254.191.86 is located in
Eschborn, Germany.

So there is no funny country ping-pong going on!?

The problem is that the 145.*.*.* and 192.*.*.* IP ranges aren't designated
to a specific region.

Hopefully, we'll be able to change the SPAMROUTING test to use the
IP-Country database, which would significantly improve upon the test (it
would be useful in areas it currently can't be used in, and would be able
to detect country hops that couldn't be detected before).
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNSREPORT/DNSSTUFF: DNS Lookup is Broken?

2003-01-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott,

sorry - that reply just makes no sense:

a)  When a DNS server returns a SOA record in response to a query, it
means that the queried resource doesn't exist. 

No - in this case it means I specifically INSTRUCTED NSLOOKUP to return the
SOA as my sample showed:

 set type=soa 


b)  If you go to
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=www3.grepel.detype=A 

Why would I do that?  Why www3?  Where you do get that name from?


c) My question was specific to:

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnstime.ch?name=grepel.detype=SOA
http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=grepel.de

I expect BOTH of these to look for the SOA records, not for some imaginary
www3 records.  Why else does DNSSTUFF let me specify
name=grepel.detype=SOA ?


d) But, since I'm a good sport, I also tried to look up www3.grepel.de:

D:\nslookup
 server m.root-servers.net.
Default Server:  m.root-servers.net
Address:  202.12.27.33

 www3.grepel.de.
Server:  m.root-servers.net
Address:  202.12.27.33

Name:www3.grepel.de
Served by:
- AUTH03.NS.DE.UU.NET
  192.76.144.16
  de
- DNS.DENIC.de
  194.246.96.79
  de
- SUNIC.SUNET.SE
  192.36.125.2
  de
- SSS-AT.DENIC.de
  193.171.255.34
  de
- SSS-NL.DENIC.de
  193.0.0.237
  de
- SSS-DE1.DE.NET
  193.159.170.187
  de
- SSS-UK.DE.NET
  62.53.3.68
  de
- DNS2.DE.NET
  194.246.96.49
  de
- SSS-JP.DENIC.de
  210.81.13.179
  de
- SSS-US1.DE.NET
  206.65.170.100
  de

 server dns.denic.de.
Default Server:  dns.denic.de
Address:  194.246.96.79

 set type=a
 www3.grepel.de.
Server:  dns.denic.de
Address:  194.246.96.79


So again I ask - why can NSLOOKUP find the www3.grepel.de - but DNSSTUFF
can't?



Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206



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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNSREPORT/DNSSTUFF: DNS Lookup is
Broken?



http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=grepel.de

results in:
[ERROR: The root servers say that the domain grepel.de does not have any NS
records (although they may have some other information on that zone). I can
not do a DNS report on a hostname (such as mail.example.com) or a domain
name that does not have its own zone.]

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnstime.ch?name=grepel.detype=SOA

results in:
Searching for SOA record for grepel.de at m.root-servers.net:  Got referral
to DNS.DENIC.de. [took 241 ms]
Searching for SOA record for grepel.de at DNS.DENIC.de.:  Reports no SOA
records (NODATA type 2). 187ms.
Answer: Does not exist.

The problem is with grepel.de.

If you go to
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=www3.grepel.detype=A , you'll
see that the parent (root) servers for .de say that www3.grepel.de
doesn't exist -- without ever sending you to NS records for www3.grepel.de.

I've been retrying for 15 minutes or so. Yet, at the same time, following
that same chain MANUALLY:

But:

  grepel.de.
Server:  dns.denic.de
Address:  194.246.96.79

de
 primary name server = dns.denic.de
 responsible mail addr = ops.denic.de
 serial  = 2003010330
 refresh = 10800 (3 hours)
 retry   = 7200 (2 hours)
 expire  = 360 (41 days 16 hours)
 default TTL = 86400 (1 day)

That's the SOA record for .de.  When a DNS server returns a SOA record in
response to a query, it means that the queried resource doesn't exist.
 -Scott

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