Re: [Elecraft] Speakers and HeadSets
On 12/7/2020 05:07, Bob KD7YZ wrote: > On 12/6/2020 21:58, Fred Jensen wrote: >> SPKR+PH Off? > > that is correct. > SPKR+PH reads "no" > > tnx reply Though after I just checked the 'Config" and was pressing Menu again, rather than the screen returning to the band I was on, I see "TERM" and no other key-press except POWER had any effect. So I powered off then on. Yesterday, twice, I saw "END" and the same effects of no keyboard. So I am beginning to wonder if my K3 is dying. -- 73 Bob KD7YZ AMSAT LM #901 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers and HeadSets
On 12/6/2020 21:58, Fred Jensen wrote: > SPKR+PH Off? that is correct. SPKR+PH reads "no" tnx reply > -- 73 Bob KD7YZ AMSAT LM #901 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers and HeadSets
On 12/6/2020 6:51 PM, Bob KD7YZ wrote: Anyone enlighten me on how to set the Config so the speakers OR the Headsets have audio but not both of them? Check the table of Config Settings in the Manual. It's been there since 2008. :) 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers and HeadSets
SPKR+PH Off? 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe CountyKR+PH off? On 12/6/2020 6:51 PM, Bob KD7YZ wrote: I have my Heil headset plugged into the front-panel 'Phones' jack. Yet I am also hearing audio through the speakers. Seems to me I never had the speakers "Also" playing when I was using the headsets. Anyone enlighten me on how to set the Config so the speakers OR the Headsets have audio but not both of them? thanks __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Speakers and HeadSets
I have my Heil headset plugged into the front-panel 'Phones' jack. Yet I am also hearing audio through the speakers. Seems to me I never had the speakers "Also" playing when I was using the headsets. Anyone enlighten me on how to set the Config so the speakers OR the Headsets have audio but not both of them? thanks -- 73 Bob KD7YZ AMSAT LM #901 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers for KX3
Grant, thank for info about the Small Dog. I used them for few days when my friend visited me over here and they worked perfectly. Nice and smooth audio. Unfortunately no way to purchase them at Small Dog from EU as it will raise up to almost $60 including s/h from them... :( - 73 - Petr, OK1RP "Apple & Elecraft freak" B:http://ok1rp.blogspot.com G+:http://goo.gl/w3u2s9 G+: http://goo.gl/gP99xq -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers for KX3
Small Dog is selling the Chill Pill speakers for $10.00 on their website direct … Looks like they’ve been discontinued, and are on clearance. For $10 I bought some to try. Maybe they’ll be a little lighter weight than the Sony thing I lug around in my bag ... Grant NQ5T > On Jul 31, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote: > > They are still available under the Tweakers name and also I originally saw > them listed as "Chill Pill" speakers that appear to be identical. I have a > set of the Chill Pill ones. Fairly inexpensive and they produce outstanding > audio. Mine last 7-8 hours on a charge and in their carrying pouch, they fit > nicely in the KX2's carry case. > > Jim Sheldon, W0EB > > > >> On Jul 31, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Dave G. wrote: >> >> I do not know if they are still available, but I've been using >> "Tweakers" for many years now on the KX line. They are powered by an >> internal battery that is rechargeable from any USB port/charger.. >> I usually can get at least 4-6 hours out of a charge >> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers for KX3
They are still available under the Tweakers name and also I originally saw them listed as "Chill Pill" speakers that appear to be identical. I have a set of the Chill Pill ones. Fairly inexpensive and they produce outstanding audio. Mine last 7-8 hours on a charge and in their carrying pouch, they fit nicely in the KX2's carry case. Jim Sheldon, W0EB > On Jul 31, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Dave G. wrote: > > I do not know if they are still available, but I've been using > "Tweakers" for many years now on the KX line. They are powered by an > internal battery that is rechargeable from any USB port/charger.. > I usually can get at least 4-6 hours out of a charge > > Dave G.KK7SS > Richland, WA. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Speakers for KX3
I do not know if they are still available, but I've been using "Tweakers" for many years now on the KX line. They are powered by an internal battery that is rechargeable from any USB port/charger.. I usually can get at least 4-6 hours out of a charge Dave G.KK7SS Richland, WA. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
On 10/17/2016 9:47 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > In general, good hi-fi reproducers should be good communications reproducers. I tried using a consumer-grade "hi-fi" speaker in a VHF/UHF mobile installation and the highs drove me crazy. Pulled out the original Motorola limited-range speaker from the junk box and the installation sounded like it was supposed to. The Big Emm knew what they were doing. :) 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
On Tue,10/18/2016 2:04 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: Interesting you bring this up as the KL7RA (sk) super contest station had acoustic tile on the ceiling in the room with six contest stations. I noticed immediately how nice voice sounded without echos off hard surfaces. Floor was carpeted. Yes, this is VERY important in multi-op contest stations when operating SSB. The major issue is NOT sound on the air, but to minimize the sound heard by an operator while other operators are shouting into their mics. We contesters tend to get excited. Guys that have operated with the great operator Jerry, WB9Z, say that he doesn't need a mic! I visited W3LPL several years ago and noted no sound treatment at all in a room having only hard surfaces. I urged extensive sound absorbing materials. The room should NOT affect on the air sound if 1) you're working a mic within about 2 inches of your mouth, 2) TXEQ is set so that you're not transmitting below about 400 Hz, and 3) mic gain and compression are set so that you get no more than about 10 dB on voice peaks. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
Ron, Interesting you bring this up as the KL7RA (sk) super contest station had acoustic tile on the ceiling in the room with six contest stations. I noticed immediately how nice voice sounded without echos off hard surfaces. Floor was carpeted. When I build my new ham 18x26 foot shack I am thinking of installing some acoustic tile over the operating position (probably not the entire ceiling). Floor will either be sealed concrete or maybe tile (embedded radiant heat in the concrete). But perhaps a area rug would dampen echos? This is how radio station booths are designed. Person on the mic sounds like next to you in your living room vs in a barn. re: speaker linearity and THD also important as freq range. I'm keeping my eight-inch National speaker in the big metal box. K3 sounds very nice with it. For very weak signals I will be trying out bluetooth direct to my hearing aids. I spent more for the hearing aids than my K3 plus accessories. 73, Ed - KL7uW Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 19:56:08 -0700 From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" To: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range? Of course the room in which the speaker is used has a huge effect too. I dread to think we'd require anechoic chambers for Hamshacks! 73 Ron AC7AC 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
On 10/17/2016 5:20 PM, Phil Townsend Lontz wrote: ... I eq the crap out of the K3 after 8K and set the tone of my CW note to 440… Near a natural “C”. to me that sounds easy and warm. When did this musical standard get changed? I've always tuned to A440. Guess I'll need to tune all my guitars differently from now on... ;>) Cheers, Gus KB0YH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
OK, I know this thread is getting too long, but… When my beloved Grado SR-60 headphones died, I used my Yamaha CM-500 phones for music. They were terrible. Not even good enough. So I ordered Grado SR-225e phones. And the cord for the SR-60 phones is part of my PTT hand switch. The CM-500 phones are back with the ham rig. In general, good hi-fi reproducers should be good communications reproducers. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Oct 17, 2016, at 9:18 PM, Doug Person wrote: > > I definitely agree with using good quality headphones for optimal listening. > But, headphones are a different psycho-acoustical experience than a speaker > system. Personally, I prefer to listen to a speaker system. Headphones VS: > Speaker system will be different for everyone. But, if you prefer speakers, i > recommend decent quality components to give you the best your "K" brand > transceiver can deliver. > > Doug -- K0DXV > > > On 10/17/16 9:15 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >> On Mon,10/17/2016 7:56 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >>> Of course the room in which the speaker is used has a huge effect too. >> >> When you're sitting right in front of a loudspeaker you're in its near >> field. That causes what you hear to be dominated by direct sound from the >> loudspeaker. The loudspeaker(s) excites the room, but you're so close to the >> loudspeaker that you don't hear the room response. Most recording studios >> have a pair of high quality loudspeakers mounted on top of the console for >> exactly that purpose. They also have a larger pair that DOES excite the room. >> >>> I dread to think we'd require anechoic chambers for Hamshacks! >> >> Anechoic chambers are TEST environments, they are lousy listening >> environments. >> >> On Mon,10/17/2016 7:26 PM, Doug Person wrote: >>> A good audio setup will amaze you when you talk to another properly >>> adjusted radio with a good microphone. >> >> All it takes for excellent receive sound quality is a decent pair of >> headphones. The CM500, Sony MDR7506, and Etymotic Research ER4 are excellent >> choices. There are other good choices, but these are well established, >> widely available, and not expensive. All are VERY comfortable for LOOONG >> contest weekends (although comfort in the ER4 depends on matching the ear >> piece to your ear). >> >> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to d...@k0dxv.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
I definitely agree with using good quality headphones for optimal listening. But, headphones are a different psycho-acoustical experience than a speaker system. Personally, I prefer to listen to a speaker system. Headphones VS: Speaker system will be different for everyone. But, if you prefer speakers, i recommend decent quality components to give you the best your "K" brand transceiver can deliver. Doug -- K0DXV On 10/17/16 9:15 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Mon,10/17/2016 7:56 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Of course the room in which the speaker is used has a huge effect too. When you're sitting right in front of a loudspeaker you're in its near field. That causes what you hear to be dominated by direct sound from the loudspeaker. The loudspeaker(s) excites the room, but you're so close to the loudspeaker that you don't hear the room response. Most recording studios have a pair of high quality loudspeakers mounted on top of the console for exactly that purpose. They also have a larger pair that DOES excite the room. I dread to think we'd require anechoic chambers for Hamshacks! Anechoic chambers are TEST environments, they are lousy listening environments. On Mon,10/17/2016 7:26 PM, Doug Person wrote: A good audio setup will amaze you when you talk to another properly adjusted radio with a good microphone. All it takes for excellent receive sound quality is a decent pair of headphones. The CM500, Sony MDR7506, and Etymotic Research ER4 are excellent choices. There are other good choices, but these are well established, widely available, and not expensive. All are VERY comfortable for LOOONG contest weekends (although comfort in the ER4 depends on matching the ear piece to your ear). 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@k0dxv.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
Love the the Ety's in the ear with the custom ear molds. They are very comfortable too. And block out EVERY THING! What me worry? > On Oct 17, 2016, at 9:15 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On Mon,10/17/2016 7:56 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >> Of course the room in which the speaker is used has a huge effect too. > > When you're sitting right in front of a loudspeaker you're in its near field. > That causes what you hear to be dominated by direct sound from the > loudspeaker. The loudspeaker(s) excites the room, but you're so close to the > loudspeaker that you don't hear the room response. Most recording studios > have a pair of high quality loudspeakers mounted on top of the console for > exactly that purpose. They also have a larger pair that DOES excite the room. > >> I dread to think we'd require anechoic chambers for Hamshacks! > > Anechoic chambers are TEST environments, they are lousy listening > environments. > >> On Mon,10/17/2016 7:26 PM, Doug Person wrote: >> A good audio setup will amaze you when you talk to another properly adjusted >> radio with a good microphone. > > All it takes for excellent receive sound quality is a decent pair of > headphones. The CM500, Sony MDR7506, and Etymotic Research ER4 are excellent > choices. There are other good choices, but these are well established, widely > available, and not expensive. All are VERY comfortable for LOOONG contest > weekends (although comfort in the ER4 depends on matching the ear piece to > your ear). > > 73, Jim K9YC > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to phi...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
I worked with someone who had two sound-absorbing pillars in the corners of his office. Of course, he’d just recorded his 8th or 11th album, depending on how you count, and he’d produced the latest one. Mitch Easter was busy this time. I’m not nearly that picky and have some hearing loss by now, but I still miss my baby Magnaplanars (SMGa). Need to write up my cheap-ham amp & speaker setup after I have a few more miles on it. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Oct 17, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On Mon,10/17/2016 7:56 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >> Of course the room in which the speaker is used has a huge effect too. > > When you're sitting right in front of a loudspeaker you're in its near field. > That causes what you hear to be dominated by direct sound from the > loudspeaker. The loudspeaker(s) excites the room, but you're so close to the > loudspeaker that you don't hear the room response. Most recording studios > have a pair of high quality loudspeakers mounted on top of the console for > exactly that purpose. They also have a larger pair that DOES excite the room. > >> I dread to think we'd require anechoic chambers for Hamshacks! > > Anechoic chambers are TEST environments, they are lousy listening > environments. > > On Mon,10/17/2016 7:26 PM, Doug Person wrote: >> A good audio setup will amaze you when you talk to another properly adjusted >> radio with a good microphone. > > All it takes for excellent receive sound quality is a decent pair of > headphones. The CM500, Sony MDR7506, and Etymotic Research ER4 are excellent > choices. There are other good choices, but these are well established, widely > available, and not expensive. All are VERY comfortable for LOOONG contest > weekends (although comfort in the ER4 depends on matching the ear piece to > your ear). > > 73, Jim K9YC > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
On Mon,10/17/2016 7:56 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Of course the room in which the speaker is used has a huge effect too. When you're sitting right in front of a loudspeaker you're in its near field. That causes what you hear to be dominated by direct sound from the loudspeaker. The loudspeaker(s) excites the room, but you're so close to the loudspeaker that you don't hear the room response. Most recording studios have a pair of high quality loudspeakers mounted on top of the console for exactly that purpose. They also have a larger pair that DOES excite the room. I dread to think we'd require anechoic chambers for Hamshacks! Anechoic chambers are TEST environments, they are lousy listening environments. On Mon,10/17/2016 7:26 PM, Doug Person wrote: A good audio setup will amaze you when you talk to another properly adjusted radio with a good microphone. All it takes for excellent receive sound quality is a decent pair of headphones. The CM500, Sony MDR7506, and Etymotic Research ER4 are excellent choices. There are other good choices, but these are well established, widely available, and not expensive. All are VERY comfortable for LOOONG contest weekends (although comfort in the ER4 depends on matching the ear piece to your ear). 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
Of course the room in which the speaker is used has a huge effect too. I dread to think we'd require anechoic chambers for Hamshacks! 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Person Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 7:27 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range? Wow Phil, right on. My first career was a buyer for an audio chain. I listened to everything they brought in. My assistant and my secretary and I NEVER agreed on what system sounded best. I would think a speaker that is reasonably flat from 200 hz to maybe 5khz with low mechanical distortion and good power handling would provide a decent baseline. After that - your warm tones are my screeching trebles; your full bass is my headache- inducing low range. I use a quality, small bookshelf speaker and then use the K3's equalizer to make the sound fill into the peaks and valleys of my ear's response curve. $50 would probably net you a pair of small Sony, Polk, KLH, JBL or even Pyle. New or used - you can't beat a nice rigid box with a woofer and a tweeter. Other interesting options are line-out to a Bluetooth audio source and then to one of the many Bluetooth wireless speaker systems. Or to a small stereo hifi amplifier. The K3 has stereo line output - a nice pair of bookshelf speakers left and right would definitely give you the best sound the K3/K3s is capable of producing (especially the K3s or an upgraded K3). A good audio setup will amaze you when you talk to another properly adjusted radio with a good microphone. There is a very broad range in the quality of signals on HF SSB. From dreadful to beautiful. I recommend setting up your station for the very best receive quality your radio can produce - which in the case of the K3, is substantial. Doug -- K0DXV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
Wow Phil, right on. My first career was a buyer for an audio chain. I listened to everything they brought in. My assistant and my secretary and I NEVER agreed on what system sounded best. I would think a speaker that is reasonably flat from 200 hz to maybe 5khz with low mechanical distortion and good power handling would provide a decent baseline. After that - your warm tones are my screeching trebles; your full bass is my headache- inducing low range. I use a quality, small bookshelf speaker and then use the K3's equalizer to make the sound fill into the peaks and valleys of my ear's response curve. $50 would probably net you a pair of small Sony, Polk, KLH, JBL or even Pyle. New or used - you can't beat a nice rigid box with a woofer and a tweeter. Other interesting options are line-out to a Bluetooth audio source and then to one of the many Bluetooth wireless speaker systems. Or to a small stereo hifi amplifier. The K3 has stereo line output - a nice pair of bookshelf speakers left and right would definitely give you the best sound the K3/K3s is capable of producing (especially the K3s or an upgraded K3). A good audio setup will amaze you when you talk to another properly adjusted radio with a good microphone. There is a very broad range in the quality of signals on HF SSB. From dreadful to beautiful. I recommend setting up your station for the very best receive quality your radio can produce - which in the case of the K3, is substantial. Doug -- K0DXV On 10/17/2016 4:20 PM, Phil Townsend Lontz wrote: I have spent may years in “hi end” audio… some building some selling some just fooling around. Does wire matter? is there a difference between tubes and soild state? Can I hear 20K? does it matter if I can’t hear 20K? Why build a wide band amp if you can hear it? All these questions really don't matter one bit. The ONLY question the listener need ask… Do I LIKE how it sounds? That's it folks, no more no less. Simplistic… yep sure is. A few years back I was attending an audio show in Denver with a few “audio” friends. We would typically visit different rooms together and give a listen to the various systems in each room. To my surprise, we all had different ideas about what system sounded good. I like room 990 but Glen said it sucked. He liked the system in 512 but to me it nearly drove me to drinking. Chris loved 234 but the rest of us were sure he was ready for the funny farm. We all “hear” differently… I love how my K3 sounds with high end speakers left and right side... and a fine digital amp that drives the speakers. I eq the crap out of the K3 after 8K and set the tone of my CW note to 440… Near a natural “C”. to me that sounds easy and warm. But to my old ears the best tone in the world was and is a fine old Drake or a Collins pure analog signal run thru a nice 8" alnico speaker in an open baffle. That, to me, is simply the best. Phil K5SSR Santa Fe __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@k0dxv.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I have spent may years in “hi end” audio… some building some selling some just fooling around. Does wire matter? is there a difference between tubes and soild state? Can I hear 20K? does it matter if I can’t hear 20K? Why build a wide band amp if you can hear it? All these questions really don't matter one bit. The ONLY question the listener need ask… Do I LIKE how it sounds? That's it folks, no more no less. Simplistic… yep sure is. A few years back I was attending an audio show in Denver with a few “audio” friends. We would typically visit different rooms together and give a listen to the various systems in each room. To my surprise, we all had different ideas about what system sounded good. I like room 990 but Glen said it sucked. He liked the system in 512 but to me it nearly drove me to drinking. Chris loved 234 but the rest of us were sure he was ready for the funny farm. We all “hear” differently… I love how my K3 sounds with high end speakers left and right side... and a fine digital amp that drives the speakers. I eq the crap out of the K3 after 8K and set the tone of my CW note to 440… Near a natural “C”. to me that sounds easy and warm. But to my old ears the best tone in the world was and is a fine old Drake or a Collins pure analog signal run thru a nice 8" alnico speaker in an open baffle. That, to me, is simply the best. Phil K5SSR Santa Fe __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Seems I can't go wrong with Elecraft, Phonema or Palstar speakers, assuming the wallet factor is a near-draw at too expensive :-) -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Speakers-Optimal-Frequency-Range-tp7623428p7623471.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Your logic is good, as usual. But let's look at the physics of loudspeakers, which I tried to do on an earlier post. A SMALL diaphragm has better dispersion of high frequencies, while it doesn't produce loud bass. We don't need loud bass, so a GOOD small diaphragm loudspeaker is what we need. And that is EXACTLY what Elecraft uses in the K2 and both versions of the K3. The late Dick Heyser famously said that "trying to describe an audio device or system using only frequency response is like trying to write Shakespeare with only one word in your vocabulary. In addition, to have any meaning, a frequency response spec must include +/- dB limits and it must include angular dispersion. VERY few consumer loudspeakers do that -- they simply quote upper and lower limits. Many cheap loudspeakers (and headphones) have very bumpy frequency response, and those bumps create phase distortion that degrades speech intelligibility. So, to repeat my earlier advice, the best loudspeaker for ham radio is one that has smooth response from about 300 Hz to about 3 kHz and has wide, uniform dispersion within those limits. In other words, it sounds the same both on and off axis. Loudspeakers that cover a wider frequency range are FINE, but don't pay extra to get one. A loudspeaker with wider response would reproduce lower lows and higher highs, but our ham rigs (at least the good ones when well adjusted) limit audio to a range of about 300 - 3,000 Hz in the IF. There is no good reason to buy a speaker rated for 300 - 3,000 Hz. What we want is one with good performance within that range, and most that do will have at least another octave or two above and below those limits. (An octave is 2:1 frequency) BTW -- I purposely set my RXEQ flat because I primarily work CW, and I want to hear the off-frequency signals that may be very low or very high in frequency, and I limit frequency response on SSB with the settings of my IF filters. 73, Jim K9YC On Sun,10/16/2016 10:44 PM, Dave Cole wrote: So, as I said in my original post, it is the most efficient use of the hardware is to use a limited response speaker. No need for high end stereo speakers on a K3... That said, I may put on some better speakers on my K3 because in the long run it is a bit less stressful on my ears...:) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Hmmmthinking about what Martin wrote, a K3Snkinda like Snorkel? Gary -Original Message- From: "Martin Sole" Sent: 17/10/2016 2:21 PM To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range? It's been doing the rounds for years in one form or another. I remember trying one from a 70's or 80's ARRL H&K book. a 45 degree PVC pipe bend of suitable diameter, 3 or 4 inches. Suitably fixed to the top of the radio, blu-tak or whatever. Paint to match. Very useful to focus the sound. I'm sure a suitably embellished matching "K-pipe", available soon no doubt, will be even better ;-) Martin, HS0ZED On 17/10/2016 06:36, Mark via Elecraft wrote: > Re: "Back in the K2 days, many hams folded some stiff card or paper to make > such a deflector to tape to the top of their rigs." > > That idea was highlighted again in May 2016 QST Hints & Kinks, pg 63. > > Mark, > KE6BB > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to hs0...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On Sun, 2016-10-16 at 20:47 -0800, Edward R Cole wrote: > As many of you know I suffer extreme hearing loss (especially high > freqs), so Don's comment really hit home for me. Several years ago I > debated buying a home theater system with prof. speakers as I > wondered if I could discern the improvement. I found that having > very linear response from 50-Hz to 20KHz improved understanding of > voice on the TV as well as enjoyable music. Edward, My last hearing test, I asked for and received a copy of my hearing results. I used to listen to CW at 650 Hz., and noticed that my speed was slowing down as my hearing got worse over time. I noted a big dip in my hearing response at 600 Hz. from the results of the hearing test. I then changed the spot frequency from 650 to 540, which is not nearly as depressed, I copy CW MUCH faster as a result of that change. I in essence, have used the K3 EQ to adjust for my hearing deficiencies, producing something much flatter between 300 to 3000 Hz. than I would be hearing without the EQ. Over all this has really helped both my CW and SSB receive ability. -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On Sun, 2016-10-16 at 23:32 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Dave, > > While what you say (using the speaker as a filter) may have been > advantageous in the days when receiver selectivity was "broad as a > barn > door". I don't think that applies today for receivers have adequate > selectivity to do that filtering job. Some low end receivers that do > not provide adequate filtering may benefit from a peaked speaker, but > that is not true of any of the Elecraft receivers. > > Besides, unless your "filtering" speaker matches the filtering > provided > by your headphones, there will be a vast difference when switching > between the speaker and the 'phones. > > In modern days, a flat speaker response in the 300 to 3000 Hz range > is > the best for communications. If the speaker response is greater than > that range, it will not matter because the receiver will not produce > audio much beyond that 300 to 3000 Hz range. > > To me, the goal is a flat speaker response in the range that the > receiver produces audio. The fact that the speaker is also flat > beyond > that range is of no consequence unless that same speaker is also used > for Hi-Fi listening. > > 73, > Don W3FPR Hi Don, I am saying that not using the speaker as part of the total communications system is not effective use of hardware, having a speaker that is flat beyond the audio output range of the radio is useless and just runs the cost of the radio up. You are assuming that receivers are all 300-3000, they are not, else ESSB would never have come about. We are not running broadcast stations, we are running communications links. Best communications is achieved using something close to 300-3000. See: http://www.w0btu.com/ssb_audio-weak_signal.html In reality, it really would not matter if one put a high end stereo speaker on the radio, assuming the radio were limited to 300-3000, (as it should be), save a bit of amp noise leaking through... So, as I said in my original post, it is the most efficient use of the hardware is to use a limited response speaker. No need for high end stereo speakers on a K3... That said, I may put on some better speakers on my K3 because in the long run it is a bit less stressful on my ears... :) -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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As many of you know I suffer extreme hearing loss (especially high freqs), so Don's comment really hit home for me. Several years ago I debated buying a home theater system with prof. speakers as I wondered if I could discern the improvement. I found that having very linear response from 50-Hz to 20KHz improved understanding of voice on the TV as well as enjoyable music. Later, I found choosing the flat response program in my hearing aids also provided the crispest voices and better understanding. Long ago I bought a pair of Sony stereo headsets for listening to weak signals on ham radio. Appears that also was a good move. So even if the audio output is restricted to 300-4000 Hz the speaker reproduces that faithfully. My new blue-tooth capable hearing aids have much wider freq response as I am hearing a wider range from low to high freq. The plus is my iphone connects directly to my hearing aids for best hearing in public (and that half is private). I have yet to try using bluetooth with my K3. Let you know how that sounds, later. 73, Ed - KL7UW PS: my KX3 audio will be connected to the truck speakers via sync; more on that, later. From: Don Wilhelm To: MaverickNH , elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range? Message-ID: <0ac70af8-6d68-a819-8b21-60c05fdab...@embarqmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Bret, In my opinion, a speaker should not "color" the audio response of the receiver. While it is true that there is not normally much response above 4000Hz from a ham transceiver, the speaker should not be the limiting factor. IMHO, the best characteristic of a speaker is the flatness of its response curve rather than its frequency range. A speaker with a flat response will allow you to hear the transceiver "as it should be" without distortion. So my vote is for "High-Fidelity" speakers. 73, Don W3FPR 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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It's been doing the rounds for years in one form or another. I remember trying one from a 70's or 80's ARRL H&K book. a 45 degree PVC pipe bend of suitable diameter, 3 or 4 inches. Suitably fixed to the top of the radio, blu-tak or whatever. Paint to match. Very useful to focus the sound. I'm sure a suitably embellished matching "K-pipe", available soon no doubt, will be even better ;-) Martin, HS0ZED On 17/10/2016 06:36, Mark via Elecraft wrote: Re: "Back in the K2 days, many hams folded some stiff card or paper to make such a deflector to tape to the top of their rigs." That idea was highlighted again in May 2016 QST Hints & Kinks, pg 63. Mark, KE6BB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hs0...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Re: "Back in the K2 days, many hams folded some stiff card or paper to make such a deflector to tape to the top of their rigs." That idea was highlighted again in May 2016 QST Hints & Kinks, pg 63. Mark, KE6BB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Dave, While what you say (using the speaker as a filter) may have been advantageous in the days when receiver selectivity was "broad as a barn door". I don't think that applies today for receivers have adequate selectivity to do that filtering job. Some low end receivers that do not provide adequate filtering may benefit from a peaked speaker, but that is not true of any of the Elecraft receivers. Besides, unless your "filtering" speaker matches the filtering provided by your headphones, there will be a vast difference when switching between the speaker and the 'phones. In modern days, a flat speaker response in the 300 to 3000 Hz range is the best for communications. If the speaker response is greater than that range, it will not matter because the receiver will not produce audio much beyond that 300 to 3000 Hz range. To me, the goal is a flat speaker response in the range that the receiver produces audio. The fact that the speaker is also flat beyond that range is of no consequence unless that same speaker is also used for Hi-Fi listening. 73, Don W3FPR On 10/16/2016 8:17 PM, Dave Cole wrote: On Sun, 2016-10-16 at 18:28 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: Bret, In my opinion, a speaker should not "color" the audio response of the receiver. Au contraire, the speaker is as much a part of the radio as the synthesizer, or the APF is. We are not dealing with a high end stereo here, (where the speakers should never color things, but frequently do), we are dealing with the terminal end of a communications link, which can be several thousand miles long, and as such, the speaker is just another filter/device to reproduce the sound. Filters by nature color things, hence the speaker must color the sound if we are to use all parts as efficiently as possible. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Take a stiff card, book or even your hand and hold it at a 45 degree angle behind the speaker and against the top of the K3 so the sound is bounced toward you and notice the difference. It's dramatic! Back in the K2 days, many hams folded some stiff card or paper to make such a deflector to tape to the top of their rigs. (Most of us, like me, used headphones so the issue was moot). 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:18 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range? What matters is smooth (flat) response from about 200 Hz to about 3 kHz as heard at the ear of the operator. The laws of physics dictate that uniformity of high frequency response is limited by diaphragm size -- the larger the speaker, the worse it sounds off axis. The speaker built into the K3 is a nice small one, so it has pretty good off axis response, but it faces straight up. In most shacks, the highs bounce off of nearby surfaces to get to the listener. A front-facing loudspeaker will have flatter response, but takes up more space on the operating desk. 73, Jim K9YC On Sun,10/16/2016 3:02 PM, MaverickNH wrote: > So what's the verdict, High-Fidelity or HAM-Fidelity? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to r...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Converting electrical power to mechanical power is fraught with peril. One way to get excellent performance from 300 to 3000 Hertz is to have very good performance from 30 to 30,000 Hertz. Or something like that. We want to be in the safely linear portion of the speaker. That said, I just bought some cheap Pyle speakers (two for $20) and am trying them out. Because hams are cheap. But I really wanted some of the old Radio Shack small two-way speakers. I have one of those on my Lowe HF-150 Europa and it is just fine, thank you. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > > On Sun, 2016-10-16 at 18:28 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> Bret, >> >> In my opinion, a speaker should not "color" the audio response of the >> receiver. > > Au contraire, the speaker is as much a part of the radio as the > synthesizer, or the APF is. We are not dealing with a high end stereo > here, (where the speakers should never color things, but frequently do), > we are dealing with the terminal end of a communications link, which can > be several thousand miles long, and as such, the speaker is just another > filter/device to reproduce the sound. Filters by nature color things, > hence the speaker must color the sound if we are to use all parts as > efficiently as possible. > > -- > 73's, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) > For software/hardware reviews see: > http://www.nk7z.net > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On Sun, 2016-10-16 at 18:28 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Bret, > > In my opinion, a speaker should not "color" the audio response of the > receiver. Au contraire, the speaker is as much a part of the radio as the synthesizer, or the APF is. We are not dealing with a high end stereo here, (where the speakers should never color things, but frequently do), we are dealing with the terminal end of a communications link, which can be several thousand miles long, and as such, the speaker is just another filter/device to reproduce the sound. Filters by nature color things, hence the speaker must color the sound if we are to use all parts as efficiently as possible. -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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The Hallicrafters bass reflex speaker cabinet for the SX-28 had fabulous flat response ... down to the deep bass if you drove it with that. It also employed a fairly large speaker and was big ... very big, and took a few watts [8 peak, I think] to drive it. In the late 50's, in college and on a limited budget, it was common for students to use 5 or 6" speakers in tight cubic boxes made of 3/4" plywood and stuffed with some wall insulation for the then-new stereo records. They sounded pretty good and doubled as supports for the ubiquitous cinder-block shelving. My roomie and I painted ours black. Why wouldn't one of those work? 73, Fred K6DGW Sparks NV USA Washoe County DM09dn On 10/16/2016 4:56 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: While I agree that the speakers should not color the transceiver, excessive low frequency response on receive is as wasteful as excessive low frequency response on transmit. In that regard, I'm very happy with a pair of Pyle PCB3 (3" Mini Cube Bookshelf Speakers) - one left and one right. They are specified for 90 Hz - 18 KHz and I *still* use the maximum RX EQ cut on the 50 and 100 Hz bands. Speaker response above 5 - 6 KHz is moot since the K3/K3S includes a 4.5 KHz "brick wall" lowpass filter in the headphone/speaker channel. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
300-3000 flat will work best... On Sun, 2016-10-16 at 15:02 -0700, MaverickNH wrote: > So aside from speakers that match the design of a transceiver, there > seems to > be some difference in philosophy about frequency range. Palstar touts > a > 55-8000 Hz range while the Phonema and Elecraft speakers spec at 100- > 2 > Hz. Palstar says sound above 8kHz is non-communication noise. > > So what's the verdict, High-Fidelity or HAM-Fidelity? > > Bret/N4SRN > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Spe > akers-Optimal-Frequency-Range-tp7623428.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net > -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
On 10/16/2016 6:28 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > IMHO, the best characteristic of a speaker is the flatness of its > response curve rather than its frequency range. A speaker with a flat > response will allow you to hear the transceiver "as it should be" > without distortion. So my vote is for "High-Fidelity" speakers. While I agree that the speakers should not color the transceiver, excessive low frequency response on receive is as wasteful as excessive low frequency response on transmit. In that regard, I'm very happy with a pair of Pyle PCB3 (3" Mini Cube Bookshelf Speakers) - one left and one right. They are specified for 90 Hz - 18 KHz and I *still* use the maximum RX EQ cut on the 50 and 100 Hz bands. Speaker response above 5 - 6 KHz is moot since the K3/K3S includes a 4.5 KHz "brick wall" lowpass filter in the headphone/speaker channel. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
That's why we use a CM500 On 10/16/2016 3:18 PM, Jim Brown wrote: What matters is smooth (flat) response from about 200 Hz to about 3 kHz as heard at the ear of the operator. The laws of physics dictate that uniformity of high frequency response is limited by diaphragm size -- the larger the speaker, the worse it sounds off axis. The speaker built into the K3 is a nice small one, so it has pretty good off axis response, but it faces straight up. In most shacks, the highs bounce off of nearby surfaces to get to the listener. A front-facing loudspeaker will have flatter response, but takes up more space on the operating desk. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
Bret, In my opinion, a speaker should not "color" the audio response of the receiver. While it is true that there is not normally much response above 4000Hz from a ham transceiver, the speaker should not be the limiting factor. IMHO, the best characteristic of a speaker is the flatness of its response curve rather than its frequency range. A speaker with a flat response will allow you to hear the transceiver "as it should be" without distortion. So my vote is for "High-Fidelity" speakers. 73, Don W3FPR On 10/16/2016 6:02 PM, MaverickNH wrote: So aside from speakers that match the design of a transceiver, there seems to be some difference in philosophy about frequency range. Palstar touts a 55-8000 Hz range while the Phonema and Elecraft speakers spec at 100-2 Hz. Palstar says sound above 8kHz is non-communication noise. So what's the verdict, High-Fidelity or HAM-Fidelity? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
What matters is smooth (flat) response from about 200 Hz to about 3 kHz as heard at the ear of the operator. The laws of physics dictate that uniformity of high frequency response is limited by diaphragm size -- the larger the speaker, the worse it sounds off axis. The speaker built into the K3 is a nice small one, so it has pretty good off axis response, but it faces straight up. In most shacks, the highs bounce off of nearby surfaces to get to the listener. A front-facing loudspeaker will have flatter response, but takes up more space on the operating desk. 73, Jim K9YC On Sun,10/16/2016 3:02 PM, MaverickNH wrote: So what's the verdict, High-Fidelity or HAM-Fidelity? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Speakers - Optimal Frequency Range?
So aside from speakers that match the design of a transceiver, there seems to be some difference in philosophy about frequency range. Palstar touts a 55-8000 Hz range while the Phonema and Elecraft speakers spec at 100-2 Hz. Palstar says sound above 8kHz is non-communication noise. So what's the verdict, High-Fidelity or HAM-Fidelity? Bret/N4SRN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Speakers-Optimal-Frequency-Range-tp7623428.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] FS: SP-3 Elecraft Speakers
I have a pair of SP-3 speakers for sale. Your K3 / K3s deserves the best and these speakers were designed by Dr. Bruce Edgar to provide proper audio reproduction for voice and cw communication. http://www.elecraft.com/K3/sp3_1a.jpg They are in perfect condition except for one tiny scratch on the top toward the rear on one speaker. These sell new for $180 each! I'm asking only $199.95 for the pair! You add shipping. PayPal Please Steve N4LQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Speakers
Different speakers so they sound different. In radios studios I always used a "cheap" speaker as a cue speaker so it could be distinguished from the air speaker. I use an Elecraft speaker for main and an inexpensive tinny speaker for the sub receiver. Ray W8LYJ Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I use different speakers for left and right so my ear can use the different sounds to tell a which receiver sound is from. Ray W8lyj Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 22, 2015, at 6:48 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: > > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to >elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at >elecraft-ow...@mailman.qth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Power meter inaccurate (Bob McGraw - K4TAX) > 2. OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" (Ken G Kopp) > 3. Stereo Speaker for K3 (w5...@comcast.net) > 4. Re: Stereo Speaker for K3 (Robin Moseley) > 5. KAT500 Antenna and Alpha 87A (Amateur Radio Operator N5GE) > 6. Re: Stereo Speaker for K3 (Jim Miller) > 7. Re: Stereo Speaker for K3 (Don Wilhelm) > 8. Re: OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" (Robert Harmon) > 9. Re: OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" (Don Wilhelm) > 10. Re: OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" (Merv Schweigert) > 11. K2 MAB board progress (Doug Shields) > 12. Re: Stereo Speaker for K3 (Bob McGraw - K4TAX) > 13. Re: Stereo Speaker for K3 (Bob McGraw - K4TAX) > 14. Re: OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" (Bob McGraw - K4TAX) > 15. Re: Stereo Speaker for K3 (Steve Ellington) > 16. Re: KAT500 Antenna and Alpha 87A (KD7PY) > 17. Re: Stereo Speaker for K3 (Bill) > 18. Re: OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" (hsherriff) > 19. Re: OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" (Ron D'Eau Claire) > 20. Re: OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" (Bob McGraw - K4TAX) > 21. Re: OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" (Don Wilhelm) > 22. Re: [P3] Can I? (Alan) > 23. Re: OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" (lmarion) > 24. Re: K3 NB problem (Wes (N7WS)) > 25. Re: K2 MAB board progress (Brian Denley) > 26. Re: OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" (Richard Fjeld) > 27. Re: Stereo Speaker for K3 (w5...@comcast.net) > 28. Re: OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" (briancom) > 29. K3 sudden loss of output power (Pete Smith N4ZR) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 16:32:33 -0600 > From: Bob McGraw - K4TAX > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Power meter inaccurate > Message-ID: <5650f101.4020...@blomand.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > You might be surprised at how many times I've assisted folks with low > transmitter power only to find their power meter was not accurate.It > happens to the best of us, regardless of how new or how expensive the > instrument might be. > > A lesson I learned as a pilot and that is always have a "what if" in > your pocket. What if on landing approach I lower the landing gear and > one does not extend and lock?What if I pull back the throttles to > cruise setting after take-off and #2 quits. What if on a cold winter > day I take off, have the airplane off of the runway and look at the > panel only to discover the airspeed is zero! Well there's answers for > each of those, most of which I hope I never have to apply..again! > > 73 > Bob, K4TAX > >> On 11/21/2015 11:09 AM, Dave Olean wrote: >> Then I discovered that my Bird 43 meter circuit was bad. It made for a >> good laugh at my expense. > > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 16:23:48 -0700 > From: Ken G Kopp > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > An earlier posting brings this to mind > > There is a seemingly little-known failure that frequently occurs to Bird > meter movements ... or more correctly ... to the connector at the sensor > casting end of the length of coax used to connect the (30 ua) meter to the > sensor. > > Often a sharp "whack" on the housing will cause the meter to resume > working, often for long periods of time. The connector's internal > connection is made by inserting the (solid) center conductor of the coax > between turns of the coils of a tiny spring that's part of the center pin > assembly of the casting end's cable connector. > > There's such a tiny amount of current flowing through the coax center > conductor and the spring "connection" that it seems to corrode easily, and > most assume the meter movement has failed. The resulting tiny disturbance > to the wire/spring junction is why the "slap" on the housing often brings > the meter back to life. Many of the expensive proprietary meters have been > needlessly replaced because of this. > > 73 - K0PP > > > -- > > Messa
[Elecraft] speakers
Thanks everyone for there input.. I have a lot of good ideas.. 73s Bob W5RG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Speakers for K3
I purchased a 4ohm/8 ohm 250w audio amp, then two 6x9 4ohm 200w speakers and 6x9 enclosed car stereo kicker speaker cabinets. I took a stereo 1/8 to dual (R/L) RCA connectors to connect the radio to the amp. Then speaker wire to the kicker boxes/speakers. I keep the audio low when I turned on the radio and amp, then raise the audio on the radio a bit and then the amp a bit. I have great audio I can hear DX from anywhere in the house. With the AM filter and AM station selected, it is like being in the broadcast studio. The little audio amp also works with my smartphone/laptop with a appropriate stereo cable, too Parts where all off of Amazon. You can make smaller speakers that take up less space, but I have the room for the larger speakers. Doug Ellmore - NA1DX d...@ellmore.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers audio is gone
Marcel, You have probably blown the speaker amplifier chip, U1 on the DSP Board. Many of us have had the same problem. Elecraft has not been able to determine the cause of the failures, so they have not provided a solution. The part is inexpensive, but is very difficult to replace because the pins are very close together. If you know an excellent soldering technician, maybe they could do it for you. Otherwise, you have to send the radio, or just the DSP Board, for repair. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -Original Message- From: Marcel Jorba Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:36 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Speakers audio is gone Hello Since today, my K3 is not producing audio on the internal speaker or via an external speaker connected to the rear speaker socket Audio is fine in my headest via the front or the rear connector Time to time I can see HI CURR on the display. I must power off and on the eliminate it Any idea? Thanks Marcel - EA3IN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers audio is gone
Sounds like you have the same failure I do. Take the cover off and look for the DSP PCB and on the upper left side top is U1. Mine did not heat up or draw excessive current but was told that it might smoke smell bad and be hot to the touch. I think your U1 the audio amp is the culprit. I ordered the AF protection PCB assembly and a new IC from Elecraft. Not expensive but a bear to replace the SMD IC. Good luck Mel, K6KBE On Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:36 AM, Marcel Jorba wrote: Hello Since today, my K3 is not producing audio on the internal speaker or via an external speaker connected to the rear speaker socket Audio is fine in my headest via the front or the rear connector Time to time I can see HI CURR on the display. I must power off and on the eliminate it Any idea? Thanks Marcel - EA3IN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Speakers audio is gone
Hello Since today, my K3 is not producing audio on the internal speaker or via an external speaker connected to the rear speaker socket Audio is fine in my headest via the front or the rear connector Time to time I can see HI CURR on the display. I must power off and on the eliminate it Any idea? Thanks Marcel - EA3IN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Speakers for K3
I use 2 of the Yeasu MLS100 speakers thru a stereo adapter into the back speaker jack of the K3. They are small, black and I think nice looking in the K Line equipped shack, Main receiver on the left, sub receiver on the right or both on with sub receiver off. Work very well in my opinion, and only $49.00 each at AES... NF8J Paul On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Mike Rodgers wrote: > Most are satisfied with small speakers and some like the big 8-12 ones > that seem to cut some of the high frequency hiss. > > It's not one size fits all and even a particular speaker size is not a one > size fits all. I can see where a speaker enclosure that matches would be > desirable for a lot of folks where you could install your preferred speaker. > Look at how many $200 speakers with filters have been sold by the big3 to > match their radios. > > I've used small ones, a kenwood one and currently using an old classroom > public address speaker. It seems the large ones are hard to find around > here. > > I've also finally got rid of my hiss/roar/frying bacon with the addition > of a external equalizer and mainly pushing the 3.5 slider of the unit to -4 > to -6db. (3.2 on k3 @-16). > RFI was a bit of a problem for my close antenna. > > 73 > Mike R > > Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin! > > Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC > HF & Echolink mobile > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Paul VanOveren 5911 Snow Av Alto, Mi 49302 (616) 868-7149 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Speakers for K3
Most are satisfied with small speakers and some like the big 8-12 ones that seem to cut some of the high frequency hiss. It's not one size fits all and even a particular speaker size is not a one size fits all. I can see where a speaker enclosure that matches would be desirable for a lot of folks where you could install your preferred speaker. Look at how many $200 speakers with filters have been sold by the big3 to match their radios. I've used small ones, a kenwood one and currently using an old classroom public address speaker. It seems the large ones are hard to find around here. I've also finally got rid of my hiss/roar/frying bacon with the addition of a external equalizer and mainly pushing the 3.5 slider of the unit to -4 to -6db. (3.2 on k3 @-16). RFI was a bit of a problem for my close antenna. 73 Mike R Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin! Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC HF & Echolink mobile __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers and other Bright Ideas… Maybe not so Bright...
This is true in many cases. however in many small devices like phones and such put decent modern drivers in that will sound pretty good without all the electronic wizardry that the device uses to make it even better my speaker mic was proof of that.Its amazing how the fine points of speaker driver have changed in the miniature world of today yet the basic principle is still the same as the good old Rice Kellogg design of 1924. Where the speaker, its driving electronics and the enclosure are all in one package, there's great scope to compensate for all the short-comings of the arrangement with sophisticated (software) filters which you will not get when you salvage just the speaker which is not in itself optimised for clarity - it's the whole ensemble. David G3UNA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Speakers and other Bright Ideas… Maybe not so Bright...
Interesting ideaI did that in a speaker mic that I used on an HT using a speaker element from a dead blackberry. it sounded much better than the original.My only worry is the original speaker used and its magnetic shielding may be important.If I replaced it would I be creating potential problems if I cant shield the magnet properly. (i dont have either KX1 or KX3 but often thought a better speaker driver in the K3 would be nice but dont want to take the chance of adding a problem) On 12/10/2012 1:17 PM, Phil Townsend Lontz wrote: Re Speakers and the KX3 and the KX1… Has anyone considered the speaks used in the iPad, iPhone, iPad Mini and the iTouch? The iPad speaker sounds darn good! I am about to pop the top on an older iTouch that has a built in speaker… Its sound is so so but maybe it would work for the KX1… Ideas…. Bueller ??? Anyone?? Phil Winter has arrived in Santa Fe… Snow and cold. K5SSR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Speakers and other Bright Ideas… Maybe not so Bright...
Re Speakers and the KX3 and the KX1… Has anyone considered the speaks used in the iPad, iPhone, iPad Mini and the iTouch? The iPad speaker sounds darn good! I am about to pop the top on an older iTouch that has a built in speaker… Its sound is so so but maybe it would work for the KX1… Ideas…. Bueller ??? Anyone?? Phil Winter has arrived in Santa Fe… Snow and cold. K5SSR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] SPEAKERS FOR THE K3
HI I WENT TO SAMS CLUB AND FOUND 2 60 DOLAR STERO SPEAKERS THAT SEEMED OK, CALLED COMPANION 2 PRODUCT CODE 035734, AND THEY WORK GREAT. MY RADIO SOUNDS LIKE AN 5K MP ON STEROIDS GOOD ON CW ALSO AND THEY ARE STEREO. BILL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] speakers
I use a pair of these on my K3, but they're actually "KLH Audio Systems Model 403A". The carton says they're "weatherized" and suitable for use in "your boat, patio, workshop, etc ...". The company's website rates them at 4 - 6 ohms, 40 watts. The company address is 11131 Dora Street, Sun Valley, CA 91352. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP elecraftcov...@rwave.net http://tinyurl.com/7lm3m5 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] speakers
These look really good and you can't beat the price. No we just need stereo amplifier so we can drive them from the line level output. 73, Doug -- K0DXV ac...@aol.com wrote: > Here's the Best Buy webpage for these speakers: > > _http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7314523&type=product&id=11188 > 43685964_ > (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7314523&type=product&id=1118843685964) > > > I bought these after Eric recommended them and have been very happy with > them on my K3 on both CW and SSB in AFX mode. > > Mike AC6JA > K3 #3215 > > > > > In a message dated 9/29/2009 9:58:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > n...@elecraft.com writes: > > Hi Dan, > > I recommend a pair of Best Buy "Insignia, 4-inch, 3-way surround > speakers" (same as the KLH Model 970A or other similar models). These > are unpowered bookcase speakers, but provide plenty of volume when > used with the K3. They're very inexpensive and sound great. Size: > about 4"W x 8"H x 4"D. > > Having two speakers allows you to get L/R separation of the main and > subreceivers, as well as take advantage of the K3's "AFX" simulated > stereo mode. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > On Sep 29, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Dan Copeland wrote: > > >> I am looking at speakers for my K3 >> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Here's the Best Buy webpage for these speakers: _http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7314523&type=product&id=11188 43685964_ (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7314523&type=product&id=1118843685964) I bought these after Eric recommended them and have been very happy with them on my K3 on both CW and SSB in AFX mode. Mike AC6JA K3 #3215 In a message dated 9/29/2009 9:58:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, n...@elecraft.com writes: Hi Dan, I recommend a pair of Best Buy "Insignia, 4-inch, 3-way surround speakers" (same as the KLH Model 970A or other similar models). These are unpowered bookcase speakers, but provide plenty of volume when used with the K3. They're very inexpensive and sound great. Size: about 4"W x 8"H x 4"D. Having two speakers allows you to get L/R separation of the main and subreceivers, as well as take advantage of the K3's "AFX" simulated stereo mode. 73, Wayne N6KR On Sep 29, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Dan Copeland wrote: > I am looking at speakers for my K3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Speakers and more
Lots of good posts regarding speakers. I suspect many others have the problem I was faced with: too many speakers. 2 for the K3, one for my K2, 2 for the PC, 2 for a small AM/FM set, 2 for my VHF/UHF FM rig. I picked up a Behringer RX1602 (~$130 today), 8 stereo inputs, each with an on/off button, balance, gain, and clipping indicator. Two outputs: one for the speaker pair of your choice and a headphone output with level control on the front panel. I built up a set of isolators for each input pair just to be safe and have no RF issues at legal limit into a variety of antennas. Now have the mixer and one pair of speakers - much less clutter. 73, Bill N2BC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Speakers
Speakers for ham radio should cut off at about 100Hz.. Leave the HiFi, for music. Music that is from a high quality source. I am sure there are many good choices out there. The one I use fits the size of my K3. It is Vertex mobile speaker, made by Yeasu. It has ahold sound and it is very well made. Also it looks good with K3. 73 N6XVT. Karl Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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OK, All this talk about speakers, I may as well chime in. I have used a pair of JBL Control-1 Bookshelf size two way speakers in my amateur station since I got out of Broadcasting. I used these speakers in various TV station master control rooms to monitor air for quality, and I bought a pair of (tax deductible!) ones for home so that I could hear my stations at home through the same transducers what the MCR guys were using at work for less "margin of error"... Acoustics non withstanding (I have audio dweeb tendencies... Just ask at the Fox, NBC and ABC network TOC's). When I no longer needed them in the living room "off-air monitoring position", I moved them to my ham shack. Listening to my TS430S, TS570D and TS850SAT has been rewarding through them. I look forward to listening to the extended bass response on the K3 through these very nice transducers. They are way overkill for ham radio, but they were just sitting there in 1999 with nothing important to do... :) I also have several of the old Nokia mobile phone car installation kit speakers that came with their hands free kit, refugees from decomissioned AMPS phones in News Vans. These small plastic case speakers with gimball mounts sound surprisingly good! I now use one of these as the main speaker for the TS570 secondary radio. They are all black and built solidly to take mobile abuse. I also have one in the car for my mobile VHF/UHF rig. You can often find them at hamfests and flea markets for around $5. Ordinarily, I use headsets when operating. But for guests in the shack, the speakers are a requirement :) -lu-W4LT- K3 #3192 (Now somewhere in Kansas, on its way back from Aptos with new encoders) Message: 10 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:05:01 -0400 From: "Larry - K2GN" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] speakers To: "Wayne Burdick" ,"Dan Copeland" Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: <75314d2048d049cc888cffbb4209b...@k2gn> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Wayne: or anyone. Ever try the Motorola Mobile speakers. I have 2 in the metal case and some in the plastic case. I like then but I've used them for years on all my radios. Great sound de K2GN/Larry K3 - S/N 3278 - Original Message - From: "Wayne Burdick" To: "Dan Copeland" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] speakers > Hi Dan, > > I recommend a pair of Best Buy "Insignia, 4-inch, 3-way surround > speakers" (same as the KLH Model 970A or other similar models). These > are unpowered bookcase speakers, but provide plenty of volume when > used with the K3. They're very inexpensive and sound great. Size: > about 4"W x 8"H x 4"D. > > Having two speakers allows you to get L/R separation of the main and > subreceivers, as well as take advantage of the K3's "AFX" simulated > stereo mode. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > On Sep 29, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Dan Copeland wrote: > >> I am looking at speakers for my K3 > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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I've had very good results with a pair of Sony B-1000 bookshelf speakers. They're just slightly larger than the Insignia/KLH and can often be found at Radio Shack, Best Buy and others for $49.95 (per pair) on sale. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:58 PM > To: Dan Copeland > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] speakers > > > Hi Dan, > > I recommend a pair of Best Buy "Insignia, 4-inch, 3-way surround > speakers" (same as the KLH Model 970A or other similar > models). These > are unpowered bookcase speakers, but provide plenty of volume when > used with the K3. They're very inexpensive and sound great. Size: > about 4"W x 8"H x 4"D. > > Having two speakers allows you to get L/R separation of the main and > subreceivers, as well as take advantage of the K3's "AFX" simulated > stereo mode. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > On Sep 29, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Dan Copeland wrote: > > > I am looking at speakers for my K3 > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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All this talk about speakers prompted me to resurrect a pair of Apple amplified speakers that have very good frequency response. All was well until I tried 10 and 6 meters - then got the "thumps and bumps" in the form of a loud hum. Tried FOE (ferrite on everything) first with no success. Opened up the speaker and found not one bypass capacitor. I put one (.01ufd) across the power plug, and after zapping the amplifier module, one across each of the stereo amp's power inputs. Perfectly quiet now. Monty K2DLJ > Some (possibly many) PC speakers include internal amplifiers which can be > susceptible to RFI which results in "thumps 'n 'bumps in the night". > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Hi Dan: >I am looking at speakers for my K3. I have looked >At the various computer speakers but don't know >Which of the many available would work best. Does >Anyone have an opinion on which set is best :-). >Also should I get a set with a sub? Some (possibly many) PC speakers include internal amplifiers which can be susceptible to RFI which results in "thumps 'n 'bumps in the night". I have settled on a pair of (UNamplified) 8-Ohm Motorola mobile speakers I bought off EBay for $5 each, plus shipping. They are a very dark brown case, which is almost dark enough to be taken for black, and match the K3 nicely. Trying top plug two (2) separate (UNamplified) speakers into the single 1/8" stereo jack in the back of the K3 was getting to be a PITA... I had two wires going different directions (L and R) RIGHT OUT OF THE BACK OF THE K3, which made things a bit 'busier' than I wanted. So I fabricated a 'splitter' for the speakers... a single 2-wire/shielded cable (about 8" long) to a 1/8" stereo plug goes into the back of the K3. The cable terminates in a small PC board containing two (2) 1/8" STEREO jacks of which only the TIP and SLEEVE are used (RING = N/C). This allows me to plug in speakers which are terminated in mono OR stereo jacks and to not have to worry about possibly plugging a mono plug into the stereo jack on the K3. Yeah, I know, there have been mods for the K3 to prevent damage if I mono plug was plugged into the stereo jack, but this helps to ensure that I never do it regardless of the preventative mods! It also helps to get the two wires (to the two speakers) out and a bit away from the immediate read of the K3, making wire 'congestion' a bit easier to handle. Thought I've not done so (yet), if there's any interest in the 2-speaker 'splitter', I'll put the info out on my web site for general access. 73, Tom Hammond N0SS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Wayne: or anyone. Ever try the Motorola Mobile speakers. I have 2 in the metal case and some in the plastic case. I like then but I've used them for years on all my radios. Great sound de K2GN/Larry K3 - S/N 3278 - Original Message - From: "Wayne Burdick" To: "Dan Copeland" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] speakers > Hi Dan, > > I recommend a pair of Best Buy "Insignia, 4-inch, 3-way surround > speakers" (same as the KLH Model 970A or other similar models). These > are unpowered bookcase speakers, but provide plenty of volume when > used with the K3. They're very inexpensive and sound great. Size: > about 4"W x 8"H x 4"D. > > Having two speakers allows you to get L/R separation of the main and > subreceivers, as well as take advantage of the K3's "AFX" simulated > stereo mode. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > On Sep 29, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Dan Copeland wrote: > >> I am looking at speakers for my K3 > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] speakers
I use my PC speaker system and control mixer with good results. These are the creative 3 tweeters per channel and a subwoofer adjusted for natural sound. The K3 sounds excellent even into this amplified system. 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods ATS-3B -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Hi Dan, I recommend a pair of Best Buy "Insignia, 4-inch, 3-way surround speakers" (same as the KLH Model 970A or other similar models). These are unpowered bookcase speakers, but provide plenty of volume when used with the K3. They're very inexpensive and sound great. Size: about 4"W x 8"H x 4"D. Having two speakers allows you to get L/R separation of the main and subreceivers, as well as take advantage of the K3's "AFX" simulated stereo mode. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Hi all, Just a comment on speakers. I use cans or a small computer speaker, non-amplified, for most SSB and CW work. However, I do a reasonable amount of SW and BC listening with the K3 with the 6KHz filter and find an old HiFi combo speaker with a 8" woofer to be most pleasant to listen to. Mel, K6KBE --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Don Wilhelm wrote: From: Don Wilhelm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] speakers To: "Dan Copeland" Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 8:47 AM Dan, I see no need for a sub-woofer for use with the K3. If you are running an amplifier, you may want to look at shielded speakers (usually non-amplified) because those with amplifiers are usually prone to RF problems. The K3 has adequate audio to drive non-amplified speakers. If you use AFX or you have the subRX you will want 2 speakers, but there is no need for any more than that, the K3 does not do Dolby Surround sound or anything of that nature. If you want great low-frequency bass response in shielded speakers you may have to look to what is available in the pro-audio field, but for only communications quality, the Motorola speakers available on Ebay or at hamfests will do the job for you. 73, Don W3FPR Dan Copeland wrote: > I am looking at speakers for my K3. I have looked > At the various computer speakers but don't know > Which of the many available would work best. Does > Anyone have an opinion on which set is best :-). > Also should I get a set with a sub? > > Thanks > > Dan N0DT K3 #3388 > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] speakers
Hi Dan, I recommend a pair of Best Buy "Insignia, 4-inch, 3-way surround speakers" (same as the KLH Model 970A or other similar models). These are unpowered bookcase speakers, but provide plenty of volume when used with the K3. They're very inexpensive and sound great. Size: about 4"W x 8"H x 4"D. Having two speakers allows you to get L/R separation of the main and subreceivers, as well as take advantage of the K3's "AFX" simulated stereo mode. 73, Wayne N6KR On Sep 29, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Dan Copeland wrote: > I am looking at speakers for my K3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] speakers
Dan, I see no need for a sub-woofer for use with the K3. If you are running an amplifier, you may want to look at shielded speakers (usually non-amplified) because those with amplifiers are usually prone to RF problems. The K3 has adequate audio to drive non-amplified speakers. If you use AFX or you have the subRX you will want 2 speakers, but there is no need for any more than that, the K3 does not do Dolby Surround sound or anything of that nature. If you want great low-frequency bass response in shielded speakers you may have to look to what is available in the pro-audio field, but for only communications quality, the Motorola speakers available on Ebay or at hamfests will do the job for you. 73, Don W3FPR Dan Copeland wrote: > I am looking at speakers for my K3. I have looked > At the various computer speakers but don't know > Which of the many available would work best. Does > Anyone have an opinion on which set is best :-). > Also should I get a set with a sub? > > Thanks > > Dan N0DT K3 #3388 > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Dan, Computer speakers are intended to play music and sound effects, not communications audio. Get a communications speaker. Mono, no amplifier, no sub-woofer. Even better, use headphones. 73, Bob W5OV > I am looking at speakers for my K3. I have looked > At the various computer speakers but don't know > Which of the many available would work best. Does > Anyone have an opinion on which set is best :-). > Also should I get a set with a sub? > > Thanks > > Dan N0DT K3 #3388 > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] speakers
I am looking at speakers for my K3. I have looked At the various computer speakers but don't know Which of the many available would work best. Does Anyone have an opinion on which set is best :-). Also should I get a set with a sub? Thanks Dan N0DT K3 #3388 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Two Elecraft Speakers in Moses Lake, WA on Saturday October 4
There won't be any formal video of the conference, but this is a formal conference, and a proceedings CD will be given to each attendee. These CD's will be available to non-attendees from the Pacific Northwest VHF Society following the conference for about $5.00. Check the PNWVHFS website following the conference for details: . 73, Bruce N7RR J. Bruce Prior 853 Alder Street Blaine, WA 98230-8030 360-332-6046 Amateur Radio Station N7RR Grid CN88px FISTS 10539QRP ARCI 4241GORC 015NAQCC 2618 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Two Elecraft Speakers in Moses Lake, WA on Saturday October 4 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:12:02 -0700 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Will this be recorded? I would love to be able to hear what Lyle and Erichave to say. Maybe a youtube video? _ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Two Elecraft Speakers in Moses Lake, WA on Saturday October 4
From: NZ0T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Will this be recorded? I would love to be able to hear what Lyle and Eric > have to say. Maybe a youtube video? Let me second that! 73, Randy, KS4L K2 #337 K3 On Order!!___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Two Elecraft Speakers in Moses Lake, WA on Saturday October 4
Will this be recorded? I would love to be able to hear what Lyle and Eric have to say. Maybe a youtube video? Bruce Prior-2 wrote: > > > The Pacific Northwest VHF Society Conference takes place this coming > weekend at the Best Western Lake Front Hotel in Moses Lake, Washington. > That's east of the Cascade Mountains on I-90. All of the formal events > are on Saturday. There is also laser and 10 GHz show and tell on Friday > afternoon. > > The keynote speaker will be weak-signal pioneer and Nobel Laureate Joe > Taylor K1JT. > > Other speakers are Elecraft DSP developer Lyle Johnson KK7P and Elecraft > CEO Eric Swartz WA6HHQ. > > In addition, ARRL Contest Branch Manager Sean Kutzko KX7X, ARRL VHF/UHF > Advisory Committee Northwestern Division member Jim Aguirre W7DHC, and > Alaskan VHFer Ed Cole KL7UW will give presentations. > > The Pacific Northwest VHF Society is a lively and well-organized group > whose conferences are routinely excellent. This year's meeting is looking > like another winner. > > See or Google: Pacific Northwest VHF Society for details. > > 73, Bruce N7RR > > > J. Bruce Prior > 853 Alder Street > Blaine, WA 98230-8030 > 360-332-6046 > Amateur Radio Station N7RR > Grid CN88px > FISTS 10539QRP ARCI 4241GORC 015NAQCC 2618 > > > > > _ > Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Two-Elecraft-Speakers-in-Moses-Lake%2C-WA-on-Saturday-October-4-tp1131348p1133986.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Two Elecraft Speakers in Moses Lake, WA on Saturday October 4
The Pacific Northwest VHF Society Conference takes place this coming weekend at the Best Western Lake Front Hotel in Moses Lake, Washington. That's east of the Cascade Mountains on I-90. All of the formal events are on Saturday. There is also laser and 10 GHz show and tell on Friday afternoon. The keynote speaker will be weak-signal pioneer and Nobel Laureate Joe Taylor K1JT. Other speakers are Elecraft DSP developer Lyle Johnson KK7P and Elecraft CEO Eric Swartz WA6HHQ. In addition, ARRL Contest Branch Manager Sean Kutzko KX7X, ARRL VHF/UHF Advisory Committee Northwestern Division member Jim Aguirre W7DHC, and Alaskan VHFer Ed Cole KL7UW will give presentations. The Pacific Northwest VHF Society is a lively and well-organized group whose conferences are routinely excellent. This year's meeting is looking like another winner. See or Google: Pacific Northwest VHF Society for details. 73, Bruce N7RR J. Bruce Prior 853 Alder Street Blaine, WA 98230-8030 360-332-6046 Amateur Radio Station N7RR Grid CN88px FISTS 10539QRP ARCI 4241GORC 015NAQCC 2618 _ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Speakers
Wanted to share. When using a speaker with my K2, I experimented with many and settled on the Sounds Sweet speaker. I liked it so well that I have it in my AM station as well. Part of my R388/Globe King 500B combination. Really great. Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc. www.instantgourmetspices.com 727-944-3226 (800) 395-7795 pin 02 Cell 727-510-5038 FAX- 727-937-8834 N.A.S.F.T # 30210 W9DVM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.302 / Virus Database: 265.8.3 - Release Date: 1/31/2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
