Open Relay Help

[Taylor, Skip]

Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
http://njabl.org/.

I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still get
listed as an open relay.

3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be used as an
open relay? 
A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
 

My server is as follows:
Windows 2000 SP2
Exchange 5.5 SP4
Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current on version and
pattern files.

I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.



Skip Taylor, MCSE 
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RE: Open Relay Help

[Andy David]

You've got to contact them and have them take you out of their database.
 

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From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Open Relay Help

Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
http://njabl.org/.

I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still get
listed as an open relay.

3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be used as an
open relay? 
A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
 

My server is as follows:
Windows 2000 SP2
Exchange 5.5 SP4
Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current on version and
pattern files.

I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.



Skip Taylor, MCSE 
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Jordan, Jones, and Goulding 

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RE: Open Relay Help

[Chris Scharff]

You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the
changes described in the article?

Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Open Relay Help
Subject: Open Relay Help


Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
http://njabl.org/.

I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still
get listed as an open relay.

3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be used as an
open relay? 
A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
 

My server is as follows:
Windows 2000 SP2
Exchange 5.5 SP4
Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current on version
and pattern files.

I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.



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RE: Open Relay Help

[Taylor, Skip]

I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you try again?

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the
changes described in the article?

Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Open Relay Help
Subject: Open Relay Help


Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
http://njabl.org/.

I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still
get listed as an open relay.

3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be used as an
open relay? 
A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
 

My server is as follows:
Windows 2000 SP2
Exchange 5.5 SP4
Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current on version
and pattern files.

I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.



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The real story with Secondary MX

[Mike Anderson]

Hello,

This is still a mystery to me.  Could somebody explain, or point me in
the right direction, as to how this all REALLY works?  And also, to make
sure things are configured correctly (on the secondary server)?

What is the overall process, on how mail gets routed - and the criteria
that has to be met, before a Primary mail server is given up on, and
then gets sent to the secondary server?

Obviously, it all begins with DNS - you have preferences using numbers.
The lower the number, the higher the priority the Mail Server is.  So,
the first MX gets a setting like '10', and the secondary MX gets a
setting like '20'.

Once that is done - what really happens, if in fact, the primary server
is unreachable?  Does the secondary Mail Server actually need to have
all the User Accounts and Domains that the first server has in order to
accept messages?  OR, does it accept literally everything, and then
spools the mail, once the Primary Mail Server is reachable again.  And
that leads me to the next question - how does the secondary Server know
that it just accepted mails (temporarily) for a primary server, and that
it's supposed to periodically contact the Primary - so it can offload
all the mail it's been accumulating this whole time?

If somebody could explain the whole process, or refer me to an article
of some type, I would be very grateful.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

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RE: Open Relay Help

[Paul Hutchings]

Still looks to be open

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> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 15:23
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you 
> try again?
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the
> changes described in the article?
> 
> Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
> http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Open Relay Help
> Subject: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
> http://njabl.org/.
> 
> I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still
> get listed as an open relay.
> 
> 3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be 
> used as an
> open relay? 
> A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
>  
> 
> My server is as follows:
> Windows 2000 SP2
> Exchange 5.5 SP4
> Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current 
> on version
> and pattern files.
> 
> I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any
> help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE 
> Network Administrator 
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding 
> 
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RE: Open Relay Help

[Chris Scharff]

Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Open Relay Help
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you try again?

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the
changes described in the article?

Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Open Relay Help
Subject: Open Relay Help


Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
http://njabl.org/.

I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still
get listed as an open relay.

3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be used as an
open relay? 
A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
 

My server is as follows:
Windows 2000 SP2
Exchange 5.5 SP4
Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current on version
and pattern files.

I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.



Skip Taylor, MCSE 
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RE: The real story with Secondary MX

[Public Folder: Exchange]

Generally you use a SMTP relay on another system as a secondary.  This
usually is just a relay that accepts ALL mail for a particular domain.
It usually has no knowledge of user accounts.

Normally, mail is attempted to be delivered to the primary MX, if it's
not available, the next lower priority one is tried and so on down the
list.

If the secondary receives mail, it tries at specified intervals to relay
the mail to the server/ip that it is set up to send that mail to
(usually the primary MX) or it can use DNS.

-Kevin


> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:22 AM
> Posted To: Exchange
> Conversation: The real story with Secondary MX
> Subject: The real story with Secondary MX
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This is still a mystery to me.  Could somebody explain, or point me in
> the right direction, as to how this all REALLY works?  And 
> also, to make
> sure things are configured correctly (on the secondary server)?
> 
> What is the overall process, on how mail gets routed - and 
> the criteria
> that has to be met, before a Primary mail server is given up on, and
> then gets sent to the secondary server?
> 
> Obviously, it all begins with DNS - you have preferences 
> using numbers.
> The lower the number, the higher the priority the Mail Server is.  So,
> the first MX gets a setting like '10', and the secondary MX gets a
> setting like '20'.
> 
> Once that is done - what really happens, if in fact, the 
> primary server
> is unreachable?  Does the secondary Mail Server actually need to have
> all the User Accounts and Domains that the first server has 
> in order to
> accept messages?  OR, does it accept literally everything, and then
> spools the mail, once the Primary Mail Server is reachable again.  And
> that leads me to the next question - how does the secondary 
> Server know
> that it just accepted mails (temporarily) for a primary 
> server, and that
> it's supposed to periodically contact the Primary - so it can offload
> all the mail it's been accumulating this whole time?
> 
> If somebody could explain the whole process, or refer me to an article
> of some type, I would be very grateful.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
> 
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RE: Unknown User problems (help!)

[Blunt, James H (Jim)]

Well Mike,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but both of the recipient organizations
are on the FiveTen RBL.

Checked both glencap.com and versaggi.com against www.SamSpade.org.

So if your servers are checking the destination address against RBL's before
sending, would you get an error similiar to that?  I don't know.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unknown User problems (help!)


Hi Ed,

The first thing I checked was Reverse DNS - it's absolutely perfect - I even
checked it using remote systems - and DNS verifiers.  Rock and Roll.  As far
as Black Lists - I will check ORBS and a couple others - but this is a
Capital Management company - nothing but first class people (and business
practices) and they never did a mass mail in their lives - so I just can't
fathom them being on any type of list.  Ok - just checked it - they are on
NO blacklists.

It's possible they are lumping this particular error message with all the
other crap they are throwing at us - saying, that it's happening more than
once.  I *know* the unknown user error is happening often - and that's my #1
concern right now.  I really don't feel that the other problem mentioned
above is happening often at all.  Today is the first I heard of that
particular one.

Now regarding the NDR (for the Unknown User error) - here it is:

> Unknown user: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Original message follows.
>
> Received: from UltimaThule [66.73.199.56] by clovisinc.com with
ESMTP
>   (SMTPD32-6.06) id A9944C510150; Mon, 26 May 2003 15:31:16
-0500
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Kim Kolesar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Matt Versaggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Fw:  Undeliverable Mail
> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:31:14 -0500
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106

If anybody has any ideas, or anything I should check, please let me know.

Thanks,

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unknown User problems (help!)


Please post the entire NDR. 

In response to the second question, it appears that your server is being
rejected.  Two reasons this might occur is that you don't have a valid
reverse DNS (PTR) entry, or you are on one or more realtime blackhole lists
(RBLs).

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Hello,

Ever since we moved our business to another building down the road, and
switched ISP's (with a new block of IP's), our Exchange Server has been
acting up.

We didn't have to change hardly anything after moving - except some IP
addresses on the ISA Firewall Server's external interface, and some DNS
settings on the Exchange Server (for outgoing mail DNS resolution).

>From time to time, external users that are sending e-mail to users on the
Exchange Box, are getting "Unknown User" error messages.  This has NEVER
happened before - and am desperately trying to figure out, how changing
ISP's, can cause all these problems.  How the heck could a remote system,
get as far as opening a connection all the way to the Exchange Box, and once
authenticated etc., it's unable to find a particular user on the system -
when they are there plain as day??? This server has never hiccupped a single
time before the move - 

Also, (here is another good one), on AOL and similar systems, from time to
time, users that had no problem before the move, could send mail to
particular users with no problems, are NOW they are getting similar error
messages:

> The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 5/28/2003 4:37 PM
> The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this
> message was sent to.  Check the e-mail address, or contact the
  > recipient directly to find out the correct address.
> < rly-xg03.mx.aol.com #5.1.1 SMTP; 550 geomarxxx IS NOT ACCEPTING
MAIL FROM THIS SENDER >

Does anybody have ANY ideas as to what is going on here?

Our client is really getting irritated - and I have been working day and
night, making sure DNS is setup right, our Reverse DNS is setup right (with
our new IP's), just anything else that I thought of...

Thanks in advance for any information offered,

Mike

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RE: The real story with Secondary MX

[Dickenson, Steven]

Well, I've only used this setup in the *nix world.  However, this is how it
tends to work.

The sending SMTP server does an MX lookup on the e-mail destination domain,
and grabs the address of the lowest numbered MX.

It attempts to make an SMTP connection to that server.  If it fails, it will
then do another MX lookup, this time grabbing the next lowest numbered MX.
Some mail servers will grab all MX records during the first lookup.  Some
mail servers will also attempt to use the secondary MX if it encounters an
error during the SMTP session with the primary MX.  I have no idea what
Exchange would do in this case.

When the secondary MX receives a message, it will automatically attempt to
forward it to the primary MX (determined via DNS), unless told to do
otherwise (usually via manual routes).  The secondary MX will keep trying to
contact the primary MX for a set amount of time.  If it times out, it should
return an NDR to the sending SMTP server.

Steven
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Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: The real story with Secondary MX


Hello,

This is still a mystery to me.  Could somebody explain, or point me in
the right direction, as to how this all REALLY works?  And also, to make
sure things are configured correctly (on the secondary server)?

What is the overall process, on how mail gets routed - and the criteria
that has to be met, before a Primary mail server is given up on, and
then gets sent to the secondary server?

Obviously, it all begins with DNS - you have preferences using numbers.
The lower the number, the higher the priority the Mail Server is.  So,
the first MX gets a setting like '10', and the secondary MX gets a
setting like '20'.

Once that is done - what really happens, if in fact, the primary server
is unreachable?  Does the secondary Mail Server actually need to have
all the User Accounts and Domains that the first server has in order to
accept messages?  OR, does it accept literally everything, and then
spools the mail, once the Primary Mail Server is reachable again.  And
that leads me to the next question - how does the secondary Server know
that it just accepted mails (temporarily) for a primary server, and that
it's supposed to periodically contact the Primary - so it can offload
all the mail it's been accumulating this whole time?

If somebody could explain the whole process, or refer me to an article
of some type, I would be very grateful.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

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RE: The real story with Secondary MX

[Chris Scharff]

Secondary Mx records is one of the services we provide to our customers,
so I've been through this a lot. :) The typical secondary Mx record
falls into one of the two following categories:

1. A secondary entrance into your existing mail network. Offices in NY
and LA, an Mx record which points to each with one being the higher
preference. In the event one link is unavailable mail is routed to the
other and then dispersed throughout the network

2. More commonly, it is a store and forward server which has been
configured to accept mail for foo.com and either uses DNS to try and
forward that mail to the higher preference Mx record or has been
specifically configured to forward all mail for foo.com to a specific
host or IP address. 

-Original Message-
From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:22 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: The real story with Secondary MX
Subject: The real story with Secondary MX


Hello,

This is still a mystery to me.  Could somebody explain, or point me in
the right direction, as to how this all REALLY works?  And also, to make
sure things are configured correctly (on the secondary server)?

What is the overall process, on how mail gets routed - and the criteria
that has to be met, before a Primary mail server is given up on, and
then gets sent to the secondary server?

Obviously, it all begins with DNS - you have preferences using numbers.
The lower the number, the higher the priority the Mail Server is.  So,
the first MX gets a setting like '10', and the secondary MX gets a
setting like '20'.

Once that is done - what really happens, if in fact, the primary server
is unreachable?  Does the secondary Mail Server actually need to have
all the User Accounts and Domains that the first server has in order to
accept messages?  OR, does it accept literally everything, and then
spools the mail, once the Primary Mail Server is reachable again.  And
that leads me to the next question - how does the secondary Server know
that it just accepted mails (temporarily) for a primary server, and that
it's supposed to periodically contact the Primary - so it can offload
all the mail it's been accumulating this whole time?

If somebody could explain the whole process, or refer me to an article
of some type, I would be very grateful.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

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RE: Open Relay Help

[Taylor, Skip]

On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for POP3/IMAP4
support)is checked.
In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and Route to: is


The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and populated with 3
internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can send email.
Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is checked with the
Internal IP address of our exchange server.
Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail is empty.

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Open Relay Help
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you try again?

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the
changes described in the article?

Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Open Relay Help
Subject: Open Relay Help


Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
http://njabl.org/.

I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still
get listed as an open relay.

3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be used as an
open relay? 
A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
 

My server is as follows:
Windows 2000 SP2
Exchange 5.5 SP4
Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current on version
and pattern files.

I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.



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RE: The real story with Secondary MX

[Mike Anderson]

Great - thanks for the info.

Another question - how does the Secondary server KNOW that it's a
secondary server?  How is it setup differently, from the primary server?

I don't want to go overkill and setup another Exchange box, to simply
accept messages.  I was thinking about using IMail or something much
lighter, since it's only a temporary dumping ground for e-mail.

Thanks again, for your help,

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Public Folder: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The real story with Secondary MX




Generally you use a SMTP relay on another system as a secondary.  This
usually is just a relay that accepts ALL mail for a particular domain.
It usually has no knowledge of user accounts.

Normally, mail is attempted to be delivered to the primary MX, if it's
not available, the next lower priority one is tried and so on down the
list.

If the secondary receives mail, it tries at specified intervals to relay
the mail to the server/ip that it is set up to send that mail to
(usually the primary MX) or it can use DNS.

-Kevin


> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:22 AM
> Posted To: Exchange
> Conversation: The real story with Secondary MX
> Subject: The real story with Secondary MX
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This is still a mystery to me.  Could somebody explain, or point me in

> the right direction, as to how this all REALLY works?  And also, to 
> make sure things are configured correctly (on the secondary server)?
> 
> What is the overall process, on how mail gets routed - and
> the criteria
> that has to be met, before a Primary mail server is given up on, and
> then gets sent to the secondary server?
> 
> Obviously, it all begins with DNS - you have preferences
> using numbers.
> The lower the number, the higher the priority the Mail Server is.  So,
> the first MX gets a setting like '10', and the secondary MX gets a
> setting like '20'.
> 
> Once that is done - what really happens, if in fact, the
> primary server
> is unreachable?  Does the secondary Mail Server actually need to have
> all the User Accounts and Domains that the first server has 
> in order to
> accept messages?  OR, does it accept literally everything, and then
> spools the mail, once the Primary Mail Server is reachable again.  And
> that leads me to the next question - how does the secondary 
> Server know
> that it just accepted mails (temporarily) for a primary 
> server, and that
> it's supposed to periodically contact the Primary - so it can offload
> all the mail it's been accumulating this whole time?
> 
> If somebody could explain the whole process, or refer me to an article

> of some type, I would be very grateful.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
> 
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RE: The real story with Secondary MX

[Public Folder: Exchange]

> Another question - how does the Secondary server KNOW that it's a
> secondary server?  How is it setup differently, from the 
> primary server?

It doesn't.

You can simply use the Windows 2000 SMTP service for this task.  Just be
sure to set it up correctly so it only accepts mail for the required
domain(s) and isn't an open relay.

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RE: The real story with Secondary MX

[Dickenson, Steven]

You have to set it up to accept mail (aka be a relay for) the primary e-mail
domain.  It doesn't know it's a secondary MX, per sea, it just knows that
it's supposed to accept mail for a certain domain.  Then, during it's
delivery attempt, it determines where to send it (via DNS or manual routes).

If you don't want to setup another Exchange box, try setting up a *nix box.
That way you can do spam scanning on the cheap when accepting the mail.  I
use a Linux box with Exim, SpamAssassin, and SA-Exim to do just this.

Steven
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-Original Message-
From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The real story with Secondary MX


Great - thanks for the info.

Another question - how does the Secondary server KNOW that it's a
secondary server?  How is it setup differently, from the primary server?

I don't want to go overkill and setup another Exchange box, to simply
accept messages.  I was thinking about using IMail or something much
lighter, since it's only a temporary dumping ground for e-mail.

Thanks again, for your help,

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Public Folder: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The real story with Secondary MX




Generally you use a SMTP relay on another system as a secondary.  This
usually is just a relay that accepts ALL mail for a particular domain.
It usually has no knowledge of user accounts.

Normally, mail is attempted to be delivered to the primary MX, if it's
not available, the next lower priority one is tried and so on down the
list.

If the secondary receives mail, it tries at specified intervals to relay
the mail to the server/ip that it is set up to send that mail to
(usually the primary MX) or it can use DNS.

-Kevin


> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:22 AM
> Posted To: Exchange
> Conversation: The real story with Secondary MX
> Subject: The real story with Secondary MX
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This is still a mystery to me.  Could somebody explain, or point me in

> the right direction, as to how this all REALLY works?  And also, to 
> make sure things are configured correctly (on the secondary server)?
> 
> What is the overall process, on how mail gets routed - and
> the criteria
> that has to be met, before a Primary mail server is given up on, and
> then gets sent to the secondary server?
> 
> Obviously, it all begins with DNS - you have preferences
> using numbers.
> The lower the number, the higher the priority the Mail Server is.  So,
> the first MX gets a setting like '10', and the secondary MX gets a
> setting like '20'.
> 
> Once that is done - what really happens, if in fact, the
> primary server
> is unreachable?  Does the secondary Mail Server actually need to have
> all the User Accounts and Domains that the first server has 
> in order to
> accept messages?  OR, does it accept literally everything, and then
> spools the mail, once the Primary Mail Server is reachable again.  And
> that leads me to the next question - how does the secondary 
> Server know
> that it just accepted mails (temporarily) for a primary 
> server, and that
> it's supposed to periodically contact the Primary - so it can offload
> all the mail it's been accumulating this whole time?
> 
> If somebody could explain the whole process, or refer me to an article

> of some type, I would be very grateful.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
> 
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RE: The real story with Secondary MX

[Paul Hutchings]

Basically you tell it, not trying to sound funny there, but I guess
different MTAs are told in different ways..

As an example I use postfix as our inbound gateway, if I wanted to set it up
as a secondary MX for domain.com I'd basically tell it where to route mail
to domain.com to, and that would pretty much be that barring some tweaking.

Just a personal opinion but I'd be tempted to use a third party for a
secondary MX - the one I use is dirt cheap and deadly reliable so I'd sooner
not worry about another box to look after..

regards,
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> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 15:36
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: The real story with Secondary MX
> 
> 
> Great - thanks for the info.
> 
> Another question - how does the Secondary server KNOW that it's a
> secondary server?  How is it setup differently, from the 
> primary server?
> 
> I don't want to go overkill and setup another Exchange box, to simply
> accept messages.  I was thinking about using IMail or something much
> lighter, since it's only a temporary dumping ground for e-mail.
> 
> Thanks again, for your help,
> 
> Mike
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Public Folder: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: The real story with Secondary MX
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Generally you use a SMTP relay on another system as a secondary.  This
> usually is just a relay that accepts ALL mail for a particular domain.
> It usually has no knowledge of user accounts.
> 
> Normally, mail is attempted to be delivered to the primary MX, if it's
> not available, the next lower priority one is tried and so on down the
> list.
> 
> If the secondary receives mail, it tries at specified 
> intervals to relay
> the mail to the server/ip that it is set up to send that mail to
> (usually the primary MX) or it can use DNS.
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:22 AM
> > Posted To: Exchange
> > Conversation: The real story with Secondary MX
> > Subject: The real story with Secondary MX
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > This is still a mystery to me.  Could somebody explain, or 
> point me in
> 
> > the right direction, as to how this all REALLY works?  And also, to 
> > make sure things are configured correctly (on the secondary server)?
> > 
> > What is the overall process, on how mail gets routed - and
> > the criteria
> > that has to be met, before a Primary mail server is given up on, and
> > then gets sent to the secondary server?
> > 
> > Obviously, it all begins with DNS - you have preferences
> > using numbers.
> > The lower the number, the higher the priority the Mail 
> Server is.  So,
> > the first MX gets a setting like '10', and the secondary MX gets a
> > setting like '20'.
> > 
> > Once that is done - what really happens, if in fact, the
> > primary server
> > is unreachable?  Does the secondary Mail Server actually 
> need to have
> > all the User Accounts and Domains that the first server has 
> > in order to
> > accept messages?  OR, does it accept literally everything, and then
> > spools the mail, once the Primary Mail Server is reachable 
> again.  And
> > that leads me to the next question - how does the secondary 
> > Server know
> > that it just accepted mails (temporarily) for a primary 
> > server, and that
> > it's supposed to periodically contact the Primary - so it 
> can offload
> > all the mail it's been accumulating this whole time?
> > 
> > If somebody could explain the whole process, or refer me to 
> an article
> 
> > of some type, I would be very grateful.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
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RE: The real story with Secondary MX

[Dickenson, Steven]

Wow, I must be tired.  Way too many pronouns this morning.

Sorry.

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-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The real story with Secondary MX


You have to set it up to accept mail (aka be a relay for) the primary e-mail
domain.  It doesn't know it's a secondary MX, per sea, it just knows that
it's supposed to accept mail for a certain domain.  Then, during it's
delivery attempt, it determines where to send it (via DNS or manual routes).

If you don't want to setup another Exchange box, try setting up a *nix box.
That way you can do spam scanning on the cheap when accepting the mail.  I
use a Linux box with Exim, SpamAssassin, and SA-Exim to do just this.

Steven
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-Original Message-
From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The real story with Secondary MX


Great - thanks for the info.

Another question - how does the Secondary server KNOW that it's a
secondary server?  How is it setup differently, from the primary server?

I don't want to go overkill and setup another Exchange box, to simply
accept messages.  I was thinking about using IMail or something much
lighter, since it's only a temporary dumping ground for e-mail.

Thanks again, for your help,

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Public Folder: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The real story with Secondary MX




Generally you use a SMTP relay on another system as a secondary.  This
usually is just a relay that accepts ALL mail for a particular domain.
It usually has no knowledge of user accounts.

Normally, mail is attempted to be delivered to the primary MX, if it's
not available, the next lower priority one is tried and so on down the
list.

If the secondary receives mail, it tries at specified intervals to relay
the mail to the server/ip that it is set up to send that mail to
(usually the primary MX) or it can use DNS.

-Kevin


> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:22 AM
> Posted To: Exchange
> Conversation: The real story with Secondary MX
> Subject: The real story with Secondary MX
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This is still a mystery to me.  Could somebody explain, or point me in

> the right direction, as to how this all REALLY works?  And also, to 
> make sure things are configured correctly (on the secondary server)?
> 
> What is the overall process, on how mail gets routed - and
> the criteria
> that has to be met, before a Primary mail server is given up on, and
> then gets sent to the secondary server?
> 
> Obviously, it all begins with DNS - you have preferences
> using numbers.
> The lower the number, the higher the priority the Mail Server is.  So,
> the first MX gets a setting like '10', and the secondary MX gets a
> setting like '20'.
> 
> Once that is done - what really happens, if in fact, the
> primary server
> is unreachable?  Does the secondary Mail Server actually need to have
> all the User Accounts and Domains that the first server has 
> in order to
> accept messages?  OR, does it accept literally everything, and then
> spools the mail, once the Primary Mail Server is reachable again.  And
> that leads me to the next question - how does the secondary 
> Server know
> that it just accepted mails (temporarily) for a primary 
> server, and that
> it's supposed to periodically contact the Primary - so it can offload
> all the mail it's been accumulating this whole time?
> 
> If somebody could explain the whole process, or refer me to an article

> of some type, I would be very grateful.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
> 
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RE: The real story with Secondary MX

[Roger Seielstad]

It all depends on how you want to configure your relays.

The default for sendmail implementations is that mail needs to be delivered
to the lowest preference server. If a server with a higher preference
accepts the mail, it will spool it and attempt delivery to that lowest
preference mail server.

In the case of Exchange, you can easily have 2 IMS's with staggered MX
preferences. In this case, either IMS will accept mail and route it
internally (assuming full directory replication).

If you look at the MX records for my company, you'll see that there are 4
MX's listed with increasing preferences. All 4 of those servers will accept
mail and then forward it through our firewalls to internal relays which
deliver the mail to Exchange.

Roger
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> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: The real story with Secondary MX
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This is still a mystery to me.  Could somebody explain, or 
> point me in the right direction, as to how this all REALLY 
> works?  And also, to make sure things are configured 
> correctly (on the secondary server)?
> 
> What is the overall process, on how mail gets routed - and 
> the criteria that has to be met, before a Primary mail server 
> is given up on, and then gets sent to the secondary server?
> 
> Obviously, it all begins with DNS - you have preferences 
> using numbers. The lower the number, the higher the priority 
> the Mail Server is.  So, the first MX gets a setting like 
> '10', and the secondary MX gets a setting like '20'.
> 
> Once that is done - what really happens, if in fact, the 
> primary server is unreachable?  Does the secondary Mail 
> Server actually need to have all the User Accounts and 
> Domains that the first server has in order to accept 
> messages?  OR, does it accept literally everything, and then 
> spools the mail, once the Primary Mail Server is reachable 
> again.  And that leads me to the next question - how does the 
> secondary Server know that it just accepted mails 
> (temporarily) for a primary server, and that it's supposed to 
> periodically contact the Primary - so it can offload all the 
> mail it's been accumulating this whole time?
> 
> If somebody could explain the whole process, or refer me to 
> an article of some type, I would be very grateful.
> 
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RE: Open Relay Help

[Paul Hutchings]

I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses" is
your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it isn't ticked
here and doesn't affect inbound email).

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> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for 
> POP3/IMAP4
> support)is checked.
> In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and Route to: is
> 
> 
> The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
> Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and 
> populated with 3
> internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can send email.
> Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is 
> checked with the
> Internal IP address of our exchange server.
> Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail is empty.
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Open Relay Help
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you 
> try again?
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the
> changes described in the article?
> 
> Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
> http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Open Relay Help
> Subject: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
> http://njabl.org/.
> 
> I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still
> get listed as an open relay.
> 
> 3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be 
> used as an
> open relay? 
> A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
>  
> 
> My server is as follows:
> Windows 2000 SP2
> Exchange 5.5 SP4
> Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current 
> on version
> and pattern files.
> 
> I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any
> help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE 
> Network Administrator 
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding 
> 
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RE: Open Relay Help

[Dickenson, Steven]

> Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and populated with 3
> internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can send email.

I'd bet money that's your problem.  I had my Exchange server setup like this
at one point, for a Mac client with an old version of Eudora that didn't
support SMTP AUTH.  It turned Exchange into an open relay.  Removing the IP
address, but leaving the box checked, solved my problem.

Steven
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Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for POP3/IMAP4
support)is checked.
In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and Route to: is


The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and populated with 3
internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can send email.
Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is checked with the
Internal IP address of our exchange server.
Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail is empty.

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Open Relay Help
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you try again?

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the
changes described in the article?

Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Open Relay Help
Subject: Open Relay Help


Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
http://njabl.org/.

I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still
get listed as an open relay.

3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be used as an
open relay? 
A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
 

My server is as follows:
Windows 2000 SP2
Exchange 5.5 SP4
Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current on version
and pattern files.

I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.



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Jordan, Jones, and Goulding 

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RE: Open Relay Help

[Dickenson, Steven]

Man, I AM tired.  Sorry, wrong entry.

This is the one I was talking about.

> Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is checked
> with the Internal IP address of our exchange server.

Remove that entry.

Steven
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The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


> Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and populated with 3
> internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can send email.

I'd bet money that's your problem.  I had my Exchange server setup like this
at one point, for a Mac client with an old version of Eudora that didn't
support SMTP AUTH.  It turned Exchange into an open relay.  Removing the IP
address, but leaving the box checked, solved my problem.

Steven
---
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Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for POP3/IMAP4
support)is checked.
In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and Route to: is


The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and populated with 3
internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can send email.
Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is checked with the
Internal IP address of our exchange server.
Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail is empty.

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Open Relay Help
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you try again?

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the
changes described in the article?

Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Open Relay Help
Subject: Open Relay Help


Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
http://njabl.org/.

I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still
get listed as an open relay.

3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be used as an
open relay? 
A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
 

My server is as follows:
Windows 2000 SP2
Exchange 5.5 SP4
Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current on version
and pattern files.

I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.



Skip Taylor, MCSE 
Network Administrator 
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding 

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RE: Open Relay Help

[Taylor, Skip]

I unchecked "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses" and
restarted the IMS.  Still relaying?

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses" is
your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it isn't ticked
here and doesn't affect inbound email).

regards,
Paul
--
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Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for 
> POP3/IMAP4
> support)is checked.
> In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and Route to: is
> 
> 
> The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
> Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and 
> populated with 3
> internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can send email.
> Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is 
> checked with the
> Internal IP address of our exchange server.
> Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail is empty.
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Open Relay Help
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you 
> try again?
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the
> changes described in the article?
> 
> Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
> http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Open Relay Help
> Subject: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
> http://njabl.org/.
> 
> I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still
> get listed as an open relay.
> 
> 3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be 
> used as an
> open relay? 
> A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
>  
> 
> My server is as follows:
> Windows 2000 SP2
> Exchange 5.5 SP4
> Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current 
> on version
> and pattern files.
> 
> I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any
> help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE 
> Network Administrator 
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding 
> 
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RE: Open Relay Help

[Paul Hutchings]

Nope, rejects relay attempts using sam spade.

If you've not already done so check your outbound queue - you don't want to
find there's 10,000 spams in there :-)

regards,
Paul
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Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 15:44
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> I unchecked "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> addresses" and
> restarted the IMS.  Still relaying?
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> addresses" is
> your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it 
> isn't ticked
> here and doesn't affect inbound email).
> 
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for 
> > POP3/IMAP4
> > support)is checked.
> > In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and 
> Route to: is
> > 
> > 
> > The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> > Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
> > Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and 
> > populated with 3
> > internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can 
> send email.
> > Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is 
> > checked with the
> > Internal IP address of our exchange server.
> > Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail is empty.
> > 
> > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > Network Administrator
> > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Open Relay Help
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you 
> > try again?
> > 
> > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > Network Administrator
> > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the
> > changes described in the article?
> > 
> > Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
> > http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Open Relay Help
> > Subject: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
> > http://njabl.org/.
> > 
> > I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, 
> and still
> > get listed as an open relay.
> > 
> > 3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be 
> > used as an
> > open relay? 
> > A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
> >  
> > 
> > My server is as follows:
> > Windows 2000 SP2
> > Exchange 5.5 SP4
> > Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current 
> > on version
> > and pattern files.
> > 
> > I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any
> > help would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Skip Taylor, MCSE 
> > Network Administrator 
> > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding 
> > 
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RE: Open Relay Help

[Dave Vantine]

No


-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


I unchecked "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses" and
restarted the IMS.  Still relaying?

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses" is
your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it isn't ticked
here and doesn't affect inbound email).

regards,
Paul
--
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Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for
> POP3/IMAP4
> support)is checked.
> In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and Route to: is
> 
> 
> The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked. Host 
> and clients with these IP addresses is checked and populated with 3
> internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can send email.
> Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is 
> checked with the
> Internal IP address of our exchange server.
> Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail is empty.
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Open Relay Help
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you
> try again?
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the 
> changes described in the article?
> 
> Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail: 
> http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Open Relay Help
> Subject: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at 
> http://njabl.org/.
> 
> I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still 
> get listed as an open relay.
> 
> 3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be
> used as an
> open relay? 
> A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
>  
> 
> My server is as follows:
> Windows 2000 SP2
> Exchange 5.5 SP4
> Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current
> on version
> and pattern files.
> 
> I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any 
> help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator 
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding 
> 
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RE: Open Relay Help

[Dickenson, Steven]

Nope, all good now.

Steven
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Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


I unchecked "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses" and
restarted the IMS.  Still relaying?

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses" is
your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it isn't ticked
here and doesn't affect inbound email).

regards,
Paul
--
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Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for 
> POP3/IMAP4
> support)is checked.
> In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and Route to: is
> 
> 
> The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
> Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and 
> populated with 3
> internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can send email.
> Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is 
> checked with the
> Internal IP address of our exchange server.
> Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail is empty.
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Open Relay Help
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you 
> try again?
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the
> changes described in the article?
> 
> Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
> http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Open Relay Help
> Subject: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
> http://njabl.org/.
> 
> I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, and still
> get listed as an open relay.
> 
> 3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be 
> used as an
> open relay? 
> A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
>  
> 
> My server is as follows:
> Windows 2000 SP2
> Exchange 5.5 SP4
> Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current 
> on version
> and pattern files.
> 
> I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any
> help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE 
> Network Administrator 
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding 
> 
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RE: Unknown User problems (help!)

[Mike Anderson]

Hmmm okay.

Actually, versaggi.com - is the address of my partner - in which we are
the consultants working on this project.  The originator of the messages
(that was having problems sending to glencap.com) was just forwarding
the information to my friend @ versaggi.com to show him the errors he
was getting.

I checked dnsstuff.com - to check for the blacklists - and it came back
(almost) squeaky clean.  Also, they are using XO Communications as their
ISP (which I am not happy with) - and I know that TONS of their IP
blocks, and clients, are on Spam lists up the Wazoo.

I just hope glencap.com isn't being lumped in, with some other Spammers.
That would stink.  Also (much to my dismay), when we moved facilities
(and ISP's), we didn't get a full Class C this time - which stinks.
Because some companies / Spam lists, will simply block an entire Class C
- and not go the extra mile, to figure out which SUBNET the Spammer came
from - so they end up blocking TONS of other legit companies that are on
that Class C.  All this crap started when we lost our Class C, and moved
to XO - with our chopped up Class C.

Well, moving on - that still doesn't answer the question of the "Unknown
User" - because if they are doing Spam checking, before the message gets
sent, wouldn't it intercept it before it could make to the destination
server?  If that's the case, the 550 message should never get an
opportunity to present itself.  This is happening, once the glencap.com
mail server is contacted, and a connection attempt with a particular
user is being made.

I am really stumped on this - 

Thanks for the info though,

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unknown User problems (help!)


Well Mike,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but both of the recipient
organizations are on the FiveTen RBL.

Checked both glencap.com and versaggi.com against www.SamSpade.org.

So if your servers are checking the destination address against RBL's
before sending, would you get an error similiar to that?  I don't know.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unknown User problems (help!)


Hi Ed,

The first thing I checked was Reverse DNS - it's absolutely perfect - I
even checked it using remote systems - and DNS verifiers.  Rock and
Roll.  As far as Black Lists - I will check ORBS and a couple others -
but this is a Capital Management company - nothing but first class
people (and business
practices) and they never did a mass mail in their lives - so I just
can't fathom them being on any type of list.  Ok - just checked it -
they are on NO blacklists.

It's possible they are lumping this particular error message with all
the other crap they are throwing at us - saying, that it's happening
more than once.  I *know* the unknown user error is happening often -
and that's my #1 concern right now.  I really don't feel that the other
problem mentioned above is happening often at all.  Today is the first I
heard of that particular one.

Now regarding the NDR (for the Unknown User error) - here it is:

> Unknown user: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Original message follows.
>
> Received: from UltimaThule [66.73.199.56] by clovisinc.com
with ESMTP
>   (SMTPD32-6.06) id A9944C510150; Mon, 26 May 2003 15:31:16
-0500
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Kim Kolesar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Matt Versaggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Fw:  Undeliverable Mail
> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:31:14 -0500
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106

If anybody has any ideas, or anything I should check, please let me
know.

Thanks,

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unknown User problems (help!)


Please post the entire NDR. 

In response to the second question, it appears that your server is being
rejected.  Two reasons this might occur is that you don't have a valid
reverse DNS (PTR) entry, or you are on one or more realtime blackhole
lists (RBLs).

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Hello,

Ever since we moved our business to another building down the road, and
switched ISP's 

RE: Open Relay Help

[Taylor, Skip]

I saw about 50 or so.  I'm still getting items in the queue with a blank
originator.  Is this to be expected?  What happens to these items?

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


Nope, rejects relay attempts using sam spade.

If you've not already done so check your outbound queue - you don't want to
find there's 10,000 spams in there :-)

regards,
Paul
--
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Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 15:44
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> I unchecked "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> addresses" and
> restarted the IMS.  Still relaying?
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> addresses" is
> your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it 
> isn't ticked
> here and doesn't affect inbound email).
> 
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for 
> > POP3/IMAP4
> > support)is checked.
> > In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and 
> Route to: is
> > 
> > 
> > The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> > Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
> > Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and 
> > populated with 3
> > internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can 
> send email.
> > Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is 
> > checked with the
> > Internal IP address of our exchange server.
> > Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail is empty.
> > 
> > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > Network Administrator
> > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Open Relay Help
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you 
> > try again?
> > 
> > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > Network Administrator
> > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after making the
> > changes described in the article?
> > 
> > Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
> > http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Open Relay Help
> > Subject: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
> > http://njabl.org/.
> > 
> > I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, 
> and still
> > get listed as an open relay.
> > 
> > 3.73 Q: How can I configure my Exchange server so it can't be 
> > used as an
> > open relay? 
> > A: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 
> >  
> > 
> > My server is as follows:
> > Windows 2000 SP2
> > Exchange 5.5 SP4
> > Trend Micro's ScanMail and EManager are installed and current 
> > on version
> > and pattern files.
> > 
> > I have been unsuccessful in finding and searching the archives.  Any
> > help would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Skip Taylor, MCSE 
> > Network Administrator 
> > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding 
> > 
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RE: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's

[Ken Cornetet]

The new "free" MMS only comes with the enterprise version of Windows
2003 server. It does not come with standard. I guess it must need saucer
separation for operation

-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's


 
I forgot to mention I have no money to spend :-( I am looking forward to
the new version MMS coming soon - the free that is, not the enterprise
version.

Ken
 
-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Or HP LDAP Directory Synchronization Utility. 

Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Not directly.  You could use MMS or simplesync or your own scripts. You
might be able to set up a standalone 5.5 environment in the middle and
have an ADC on each side sync through that.  Sounds like a pain in the
neck to me though.


ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released! http://www.swinc.com/erm

 

-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday,
May 27, 2003 9:47 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's
Subject: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's

Hello,

It it possible to synchronize 2 separate E2K GAL's using the ADC? It
does not appear to be and I am finding very little information on it.

Thanks.

Ken Jasa
Messaging Manager
Weber Shandwick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Open Relay Help

[Paul Hutchings]

If it's originator is <> they're NDRs and the likes - they can be safely
deleted.

You might want to keep an eye on http://www.openrbl.org to make sure you
don't creep onto more DNSBLs as people receive stuff that may have been sent
through your server and report it to Spamcop and the likes.

Some lists you'll be able to get removed from, some you're stuck on simply
for being with QWest.

regards,
Paul
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Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 15:52
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> I saw about 50 or so.  I'm still getting items in the queue 
> with a blank
> originator.  Is this to be expected?  What happens to these items?
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:46 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Nope, rejects relay attempts using sam spade.
> 
> If you've not already done so check your outbound queue - you 
> don't want to
> find there's 10,000 spams in there :-)
> 
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:44
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > I unchecked "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> > addresses" and
> > restarted the IMS.  Still relaying?
> > 
> > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > Network Administrator
> > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:42 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> > addresses" is
> > your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it 
> > isn't ticked
> > here and doesn't affect inbound email).
> > 
> > regards,
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Hutchings
> > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for 
> > > POP3/IMAP4
> > > support)is checked.
> > > In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and 
> > Route to: is
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> > > Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
> > > Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and 
> > > populated with 3
> > > internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can 
> > send email.
> > > Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is 
> > > checked with the
> > > Internal IP address of our exchange server.
> > > Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail is empty.
> > > 
> > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > Network Administrator
> > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
> > > Posted To: swynk
> > > Conversation: Open Relay Help
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you 
> > > try again?
> > > 
> > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > Network Administrator
> > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after 
> making the
> > > changes described in the article?
> > > 
> > > Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
> > > http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:06 AM
> > > Posted To: swynk
> > > Conversation: Open Relay Help
> > > Subject: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Apparently my mail server has been listed as an Open Relay at
> > > http://njabl.org/.
> > > 
> > > I've followed the instructions listed in the following FAQ, 
> > and still
> > > get listed as

RE: Open Relay Help

[Taylor, Skip]

Thank you All for your help on this issue.

btw what's the deal with Qwest?  We just switched to them 2 weeks ago.

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


If it's originator is <> they're NDRs and the likes - they can be safely
deleted.

You might want to keep an eye on http://www.openrbl.org to make sure you
don't creep onto more DNSBLs as people receive stuff that may have been sent
through your server and report it to Spamcop and the likes.

Some lists you'll be able to get removed from, some you're stuck on simply
for being with QWest.

regards,
Paul
--
Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 15:52
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> I saw about 50 or so.  I'm still getting items in the queue 
> with a blank
> originator.  Is this to be expected?  What happens to these items?
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:46 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Nope, rejects relay attempts using sam spade.
> 
> If you've not already done so check your outbound queue - you 
> don't want to
> find there's 10,000 spams in there :-)
> 
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:44
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > I unchecked "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> > addresses" and
> > restarted the IMS.  Still relaying?
> > 
> > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > Network Administrator
> > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:42 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> > addresses" is
> > your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it 
> > isn't ticked
> > here and doesn't affect inbound email).
> > 
> > regards,
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Hutchings
> > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for 
> > > POP3/IMAP4
> > > support)is checked.
> > > In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and 
> > Route to: is
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> > > Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
> > > Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and 
> > > populated with 3
> > > internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can 
> > send email.
> > > Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is 
> > > checked with the
> > > Internal IP address of our exchange server.
> > > Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail is empty.
> > > 
> > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > Network Administrator
> > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
> > > Posted To: swynk
> > > Conversation: Open Relay Help
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you 
> > > try again?
> > > 
> > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > Network Administrator
> > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:13 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You're still an open relay. Did you restart the IMS after 
> making the
> > > changes described in the article?
> > > 
> > > Describe your settings on this tab as well in detail:
> > > http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Files/04/7696/Screen_04.gif
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

RE: Open Relay Help

[Randal, Phil]

On the subject of emails from "<>", RFC2821 says your mailer must
accept them.  It neededn't do anything with them, though.

There's a surprisingly large number of misconfigured mailers
which bounce them, alas.

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 15:58
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> If it's originator is <> they're NDRs and the likes - they 
> can be safely
> deleted.
> 
> You might want to keep an eye on http://www.openrbl.org to 
> make sure you
> don't creep onto more DNSBLs as people receive stuff that may 
> have been sent
> through your server and report it to Spamcop and the likes.
> 
> Some lists you'll be able to get removed from, some you're 
> stuck on simply
> for being with QWest.
> 
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:52
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > I saw about 50 or so.  I'm still getting items in the queue 
> > with a blank
> > originator.  Is this to be expected?  What happens to these items?
> > 
> > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > Network Administrator
> > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:46 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > Nope, rejects relay attempts using sam spade.
> > 
> > If you've not already done so check your outbound queue - you 
> > don't want to
> > find there's 10,000 spams in there :-)
> > 
> > regards,
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Hutchings
> > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:44
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I unchecked "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> > > addresses" and
> > > restarted the IMS.  Still relaying?
> > > 
> > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > Network Administrator
> > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:42 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> > > addresses" is
> > > your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it 
> > > isn't ticked
> > > here and doesn't affect inbound email).
> > > 
> > > regards,
> > > Paul
> > > --
> > > Paul Hutchings
> > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for 
> > > > POP3/IMAP4
> > > > support)is checked.
> > > > In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and 
> > > Route to: is
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> > > > Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
> > > > Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and 
> > > > populated with 3
> > > > internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can 
> > > send email.
> > > > Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is 
> > > > checked with the
> > > > Internal IP address of our exchange server.
> > > > Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail 
> is empty.
> > > > 
> > > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > > Network Administrator
> > > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > Posted At: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:23 AM
> > > > Posted To: swynk
> > > > Conversation: Open Relay Help
> > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm sure I did but restarted once more to make sure.  Can you 
> > > > try again?
> > > > 
> > > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > > Network Administrator
> > > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 

RE: Open Relay Help

[Paul Hutchings]

It looks like a bunch of Qwest IPs are on blacklists because of Qwests
alleged unwillinglness to terminate spammers using their network - I don't
really know the specifics, but I suspect if you go to
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=qwest+group%3A
news.admin.net-abuse.* you'll get an idea.

Main thing is get of any lists you're on because you were an open relay,
short of changing IPs or ISPs you can't do much about the others.

regards,
Paul
--
Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 16:04
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Thank you All for your help on this issue.
> 
> btw what's the deal with Qwest?  We just switched to them 2 weeks ago.
> 
> Skip Taylor, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussion
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> If it's originator is <> they're NDRs and the likes - they 
> can be safely
> deleted.
> 
> You might want to keep an eye on http://www.openrbl.org to 
> make sure you
> don't creep onto more DNSBLs as people receive stuff that may 
> have been sent
> through your server and report it to Spamcop and the likes.
> 
> Some lists you'll be able to get removed from, some you're 
> stuck on simply
> for being with QWest.
> 
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:52
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > I saw about 50 or so.  I'm still getting items in the queue 
> > with a blank
> > originator.  Is this to be expected?  What happens to these items?
> > 
> > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > Network Administrator
> > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:46 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > Nope, rejects relay attempts using sam spade.
> > 
> > If you've not already done so check your outbound queue - you 
> > don't want to
> > find there's 10,000 spams in there :-)
> > 
> > regards,
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Hutchings
> > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:44
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I unchecked "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> > > addresses" and
> > > restarted the IMS.  Still relaying?
> > > 
> > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > Network Administrator
> > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:42 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> > > addresses" is
> > > your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it 
> > > isn't ticked
> > > here and doesn't affect inbound email).
> > > 
> > > regards,
> > > Paul
> > > --
> > > Paul Hutchings
> > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for 
> > > > POP3/IMAP4
> > > > support)is checked.
> > > > In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and 
> > > Route to: is
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> > > > Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
> > > > Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and 
> > > > populated with 3
> > > > internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can 
> > > send email.
> > > > Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is 
> > > > checked with the
> > > > Internal IP address of our exchange server.
> > > > Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail 
> is empty.
> > > > 
> > > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > > Network Administrator
> > > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay He

RE: Archiving Solutions

[Hurst, Paul]

C2C have active folders at a reasonable price?

-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 May 2003 14:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Archiving Solutions



Ok, so I know that pst = bad.
What can I use for archiving purposes then?  I have had a look around but I
am totally budget constrained so I imagine that something like EAS
(http://www.exchangearchivesolution.com/) is out the question as I bet it
costs £££ - similarly commvault et al.
Does anyone know of a low cost solution if users want to save email?  I am
currently researching Microsoft Exchange Server Archiving Agent (EAA) Has
anyone used this?  Any good?  Reading
http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7920&pg=1&show=640
makes me think that this isn't really what I'm after which is some way of
users keeping messages in their mailboxes or some other central repository
without going over their limit.  Disk space is a problem at the moment and I
have no money to spend.  Anyone got any ideas?  Or do I just tell the users
to like it or lump it?
Site:
SBS 2000 sp1 with Exchange 2000 sp3 / windows 2000 sp3
Thanks
Rob
Support Analyst
TKC Group Ltd
Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est
Keynsham
BS31 1TZ
UK
0117 916 1320


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RE: Archiving Solutions

[Taylor, Skip]

I don't know if this is Acceptable Practice but could be a work around.
Copy the emails to a directory on a file server or local drive as a .msg file.  At this time you can keep them there or burn them to a CD. 

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, and Goulding


-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussion
Subject: RE: Archiving Solutions


C2C have active folders at a reasonable price?

-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 May 2003 14:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Archiving Solutions



Ok, so I know that pst = bad.
What can I use for archiving purposes then?  I have had a look around but I
am totally budget constrained so I imagine that something like EAS
(http://www.exchangearchivesolution.com/) is out the question as I bet it
costs £££ - similarly commvault et al.
Does anyone know of a low cost solution if users want to save email?  I am
currently researching Microsoft Exchange Server Archiving Agent (EAA) Has
anyone used this?  Any good?  Reading
http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7920&pg=1&show=640
makes me think that this isn't really what I'm after which is some way of
users keeping messages in their mailboxes or some other central repository
without going over their limit.  Disk space is a problem at the moment and I
have no money to spend.  Anyone got any ideas?  Or do I just tell the users
to like it or lump it?
Site:
SBS 2000 sp1 with Exchange 2000 sp3 / windows 2000 sp3
Thanks
Rob
Support Analyst
TKC Group Ltd
Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est
Keynsham
BS31 1TZ
UK
0117 916 1320


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Re: improve exchange response

[Nikki Peterson]

XGEN: Changing the RPC Binding Order
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;163576

If Outlook 2002:
To remove the link between Outlook 2002 and MSN Messenger
perform the following steps:
   1. Start Outlook.
   2. From the Tools menu, select Options.
   3. Select the Other tab.
   4. Clear the "Enable Instant Messaging in Microsoft Outlook"
check box in the Instant Messaging section, then click OK.
   5. Close and restart Outlook for the change to take effect.

Nikki

> Check DNS, WINS etc etc. Are they configured correctly. What are the ping
> response times from the client to the server where the mailbox is on.
> 
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Santhosh, H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:54 AM
> Subject: RE: improve exchange response
> 
> 
> > Hi
> > Thanks for the input. If u don't mind can you give more details on how to
> > network lookup stuff
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Regards
> > Santhosh.H
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:26 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: improve exchange response
> >
> >
> > Check the network lookup stuff on the client and server if they are
> > configured properly.
> >
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> > From: "Santhosh, H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > >  I have a issue with an  exchange server response. when some one wants
> > to
> > > > open a persons calendar or trying to open his mailbox using outlook it
> > > > takes 2 minutes. I am monitoring all the performance exchange counters
> > but
> > > > nothing alarming there. any idea or resources from where   we can find
> > > > some help  to reduce the response time to outlook clients
> > > >
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Scripted shutdown of Ex2k

[Aaron Greer]

I've been asked to come up with a script that will allow others (on our
general networking team) to gracefully shut down one of our Exchange
servers. I'm figuring that a straightforward series of NET STOP commands
should take care of it, but am concerned about the time it'll take to
shut down the IS (for instance, if net stop times out and gives up
before a large IS finishes shutting down). Do any of you all have any
pointers or caveats? Is there any way in a simple batch script to check
to see if a service has finished shutting down?

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RE: Open Relay Help

[Dickenson, Steven]

Agreed.  It drives me nuts, as I do sender address verification using null
senders.  It's okay to reject null senders for multiple recipients, but not
for just one!  I'm also amazed at the number of sites that just ignore
e-mails I send informing them of their RFC violation.

Steven
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-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Open Relay Help


On the subject of emails from "<>", RFC2821 says your mailer must
accept them.  It neededn't do anything with them, though.

There's a surprisingly large number of misconfigured mailers
which bounce them, alas.

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 15:58
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> If it's originator is <> they're NDRs and the likes - they 
> can be safely
> deleted.
> 
> You might want to keep an eye on http://www.openrbl.org to 
> make sure you
> don't creep onto more DNSBLs as people receive stuff that may 
> have been sent
> through your server and report it to Spamcop and the likes.
> 
> Some lists you'll be able to get removed from, some you're 
> stuck on simply
> for being with QWest.
> 
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:52
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > I saw about 50 or so.  I'm still getting items in the queue 
> > with a blank
> > originator.  Is this to be expected?  What happens to these items?
> > 
> > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > Network Administrator
> > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:46 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > Nope, rejects relay attempts using sam spade.
> > 
> > If you've not already done so check your outbound queue - you 
> > don't want to
> > find there's 10,000 spams in there :-)
> > 
> > regards,
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Hutchings
> > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:44
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I unchecked "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> > > addresses" and
> > > restarted the IMS.  Still relaying?
> > > 
> > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > Network Administrator
> > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:42 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal 
> > > addresses" is
> > > your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it 
> > > isn't ticked
> > > here and doesn't affect inbound email).
> > > 
> > > regards,
> > > Paul
> > > --
> > > Paul Hutchings
> > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for 
> > > > POP3/IMAP4
> > > > support)is checked.
> > > > In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and 
> > > Route to: is
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> > > > Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is not checked.
> > > > Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and 
> > > > populated with 3
> > > > internal addresses for Canon Image Runner copiers that can 
> > > send email.
> > > > Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is 
> > > > checked with the
> > > > Internal IP address of our exchange server.
> > > > Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail 
> is empty.
> > > > 
> > > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > > Network Administrator
> > > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:29 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Still open... What's that tab say now exactly?
> > > > 
> > > > 

Re: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's

[Martin Tuip [MVP]]

The 'free' MMS also needs SQL and Visual Studio.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Cornetet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's


The new "free" MMS only comes with the enterprise version of Windows
2003 server. It does not come with standard. I guess it must need saucer
separation for operation

-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's



I forgot to mention I have no money to spend :-( I am looking forward to
the new version MMS coming soon - the free that is, not the enterprise
version.

Ken

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Or HP LDAP Directory Synchronization Utility.

Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Not directly.  You could use MMS or simplesync or your own scripts. You
might be able to set up a standalone 5.5 environment in the middle and
have an ADC on each side sync through that.  Sounds like a pain in the
neck to me though.


ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released! http://www.swinc.com/erm



-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday,
May 27, 2003 9:47 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's
Subject: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's

Hello,

It it possible to synchronize 2 separate E2K GAL's using the ADC? It
does not appear to be and I am finding very little information on it.

Thanks.

Ken Jasa
Messaging Manager
Weber Shandwick
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RE: The real story with Secondary MX

[bscott]

On Thu, 29 May 2003, at 9:35am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Another question - how does the Secondary server KNOW that it's a
> secondary server?  How is it setup differently, from the primary server?

  Others have answered your question well, but I feel it worth emphasizing
that MX records only tell *other* mail servers what to do.  They usually do
not influence the actual destination servers themselves.  Most SMTP
implementations need to be explicitly told to handle mail for a given
domain.  Otherwise you get errors like "Relaying denied" or "MX loops back
to me".

  The typical algorithm is something like this...

  First, the server checks an SMTP envelope's "RCPT TO" command(s).  Any
"RCPT TO" commands which specify a domain the server is configured to handle
are accepted for processing.  What exactly happens depends on the
configuration, but typically, the message is either delivered locally, or
relayed to a higher priority (lower numbered) MX.  High availability systems
may do things like use alternate routes to internal mail storage servers or
things like that.

  Any remaining "RCPT TO" commands on the envelope are thus relay attempts.  
If the server is well-behaved, it will make sure the sender is authorized to
relay.  (This is where the "Relay denied" error mentioned above comes from.)  
If the relay is authorized, the server will look up the destination MX, and
forward the message on to that mail exchanger.  If a server discovers that
*it* is the best MX, you get errors like "MX loops back to me".

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RE: The real story with Secondary MX

[Mike Anderson]

Ah excellent info.

Thanks to *everybody* that replied.  I understand much better now.

Most appreciated :)

Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The real story with Secondary MX


On Thu, 29 May 2003, at 9:35am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Another question - how does the Secondary server KNOW that it's a 
> secondary server?  How is it setup differently, from the primary 
> server?

  Others have answered your question well, but I feel it worth
emphasizing that MX records only tell *other* mail servers what to do.
They usually do not influence the actual destination servers themselves.
Most SMTP implementations need to be explicitly told to handle mail for
a given domain.  Otherwise you get errors like "Relaying denied" or "MX
loops back to me".

  The typical algorithm is something like this...

  First, the server checks an SMTP envelope's "RCPT TO" command(s).  Any
"RCPT TO" commands which specify a domain the server is configured to
handle are accepted for processing.  What exactly happens depends on the
configuration, but typically, the message is either delivered locally,
or relayed to a higher priority (lower numbered) MX.  High availability
systems may do things like use alternate routes to internal mail storage
servers or things like that.

  Any remaining "RCPT TO" commands on the envelope are thus relay
attempts.  
If the server is well-behaved, it will make sure the sender is
authorized to relay.  (This is where the "Relay denied" error mentioned
above comes from.)  
If the relay is authorized, the server will look up the destination MX,
and forward the message on to that mail exchanger.  If a server
discovers that
*it* is the best MX, you get errors like "MX loops back to me".

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RE: Open Relay Help

[Roger Seielstad]

Sooner or later I need to start using these guys:
http://www.rfc-ignorant.com/policy-dsn.php

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> -Original Message-
> From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:10 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> On the subject of emails from "<>", RFC2821 says your mailer 
> must accept them.  It neededn't do anything with them, though.
> 
> There's a surprisingly large number of misconfigured mailers 
> which bounce them, alas.
> 
> Phil
> 
> -
> Phil Randal
> Network Engineer
> Herefordshire Council
> Hereford, UK 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:58
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > If it's originator is <> they're NDRs and the likes - they
> > can be safely
> > deleted.
> > 
> > You might want to keep an eye on http://www.openrbl.org to
> > make sure you
> > don't creep onto more DNSBLs as people receive stuff that may 
> > have been sent
> > through your server and report it to Spamcop and the likes.
> > 
> > Some lists you'll be able to get removed from, some you're
> > stuck on simply
> > for being with QWest.
> > 
> > regards,
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Hutchings
> > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:52
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I saw about 50 or so.  I'm still getting items in the queue
> > > with a blank
> > > originator.  Is this to be expected?  What happens to these items?
> > > 
> > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > Network Administrator
> > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:46 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Nope, rejects relay attempts using sam spade.
> > > 
> > > If you've not already done so check your outbound queue - you
> > > don't want to
> > > find there's 10,000 spams in there :-)
> > > 
> > > regards,
> > > Paul
> > > --
> > > Paul Hutchings
> > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:44
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I unchecked "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal
> > > > addresses" and
> > > > restarted the IMS.  Still relaying?
> > > > 
> > > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > > Network Administrator
> > > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:42 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal
> > > > addresses" is
> > > > your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it 
> > > > isn't ticked
> > > > here and doesn't affect inbound email).
> > > > 
> > > > regards,
> > > > Paul
> > > > --
> > > > Paul Hutchings
> > > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > > > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 
> > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for
> > > > > POP3/IMAP4
> > > > > support)is checked.
> > > > > In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and 
> > > > Route to: is
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> > > > > Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is 
> not checked. 
> > > > > Host and clients with these IP addresses is checked and 
> > > > > populated with 3 internal addresses for Canon Image Runner 
> > > > > copiers that can
> > > > send email.
> > > > > Hosts and clients connecting to these internal addresses is
> > > > > checked with the
> > > > > Internal IP address of our exchange server.
> > > > > Specify the hosts and clients that can NEVER route mail 
> > is empty.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > > > Network Administrator
> > > > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10

RE: Open Relay Help

[Randal, Phil]

Just what I needed, thanks!

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 May 2003 17:44
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> 
> 
> Sooner or later I need to start using these guys:
> http://www.rfc-ignorant.com/policy-dsn.php
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:10 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > 
> > 
> > On the subject of emails from "<>", RFC2821 says your mailer 
> > must accept them.  It neededn't do anything with them, though.
> > 
> > There's a surprisingly large number of misconfigured mailers 
> > which bounce them, alas.
> > 
> > Phil
> > 
> > -
> > Phil Randal
> > Network Engineer
> > Herefordshire Council
> > Hereford, UK 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:58
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If it's originator is <> they're NDRs and the likes - they
> > > can be safely
> > > deleted.
> > > 
> > > You might want to keep an eye on http://www.openrbl.org to
> > > make sure you
> > > don't creep onto more DNSBLs as people receive stuff that may 
> > > have been sent
> > > through your server and report it to Spamcop and the likes.
> > > 
> > > Some lists you'll be able to get removed from, some you're
> > > stuck on simply
> > > for being with QWest.
> > > 
> > > regards,
> > > Paul
> > > --
> > > Paul Hutchings
> > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:52
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I saw about 50 or so.  I'm still getting items in the queue
> > > > with a blank
> > > > originator.  Is this to be expected?  What happens to 
> these items?
> > > > 
> > > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > > Network Administrator
> > > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:46 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Nope, rejects relay attempts using sam spade.
> > > > 
> > > > If you've not already done so check your outbound queue - you
> > > > don't want to
> > > > find there's 10,000 spams in there :-)
> > > > 
> > > > regards,
> > > > Paul
> > > > --
> > > > Paul Hutchings
> > > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > > > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 
> > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:44
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I unchecked "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal
> > > > > addresses" and
> > > > > restarted the IMS.  Still relaying?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Skip Taylor, MCSE
> > > > > Network Administrator
> > > > > Jordan, Jones, and Goulding
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:42 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussion
> > > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think the "Hosts and clients connecting to these internal
> > > > > addresses" is
> > > > > your problem - you don't need it ticked (or I should say it 
> > > > > isn't ticked
> > > > > here and doesn't affect inbound email).
> > > > > 
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > Paul
> > > > > --
> > > > > Paul Hutchings
> > > > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > > > > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 
> > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: 29 May 2003 15:35
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Open Relay Help
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On the Routing tab "Reroute incoming SMTP mail (required for
> > > > > > POP3/IMAP4
> > > > > > support)is checked.
> > > > > > In the field below Sent to: has our domain of jjg.com and 
> > > > > Route to: is
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The Routing Restrictions are as follows:
> > > > > > Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate is 
> > not checked. 
> > > > > > Host and clients with these IP addresses is checke

RE: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's

[Jasa, Ken]

 
Still 25k freer then the enterprise version.

Ken
 
-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

The 'free' MMS also needs SQL and Visual Studio.

**  Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with
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--
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www.exchange-mail.org
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- Original Message -
From: "Ken Cornetet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's


The new "free" MMS only comes with the enterprise version of Windows
2003 server. It does not come with standard. I guess it must need saucer
separation for operation

-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's



I forgot to mention I have no money to spend :-( I am looking forward to
the new version MMS coming soon - the free that is, not the enterprise
version.

Ken

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Or HP LDAP Directory Synchronization Utility.

Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Not directly.  You could use MMS or simplesync or your own scripts. You
might be able to set up a standalone 5.5 environment in the middle and
have an ADC on each side sync through that.  Sounds like a pain in the
neck to me though.


ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released! http://www.swinc.com/erm



-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday,
May 27, 2003 9:47 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's
Subject: Synchronize separate E2K GAL's

Hello,

It it possible to synchronize 2 separate E2K GAL's using the ADC? It
does not appear to be and I am finding very little information on it.

Thanks.

Ken Jasa
Messaging Manager
Weber Shandwick
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SpamBelt

[Tom Meunier]

Why would a company who sends me so much SPAM sell a product called "SpamSucks!"?  
Especially spam trying to sell me a product called "SpamSucks!"  And sent with a 
throw-away account at juno.com as a reply-to address, yet sent through a spamming 
firm's (roving.com) servers... yeesh.  How many more alarms need to go off here before 
people realize how egregiously these people commit the crime they're purported to 
guard against???

Just trying to help a struggling business gain exposure to their target audience...  
We now return you to your regularly scheduled technical discussion.  I'll be over 
there adding sunbelt.com to my smtp gateway filters if you need me.  Not that it'll 
help me since they obfuscate the injection point of their spam.

-tom

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RE: SpamBelt

[Martin Blackstone]

The  subscribe to the following theory:
Its only SPAM if someone else sends it. We send out specially targeted
marketing material" 


-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Why would a company who sends me so much SPAM sell a product called
"SpamSucks!"?  Especially spam trying to sell me a product called
"SpamSucks!"  And sent with a throw-away account at juno.com as a reply-to
address, yet sent through a spamming firm's (roving.com) servers... yeesh.
How many more alarms need to go off here before people realize how
egregiously these people commit the crime they're purported to guard
against???

Just trying to help a struggling business gain exposure to their target
audience...  We now return you to your regularly scheduled technical
discussion.  I'll be over there adding sunbelt.com to my smtp gateway
filters if you need me.  Not that it'll help me since they obfuscate the
injection point of their spam.

-tom

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RE: SpamBelt

[Durkee, Peter]

And in fact, if they send enough of it, their messages are guaranteed to be perfectly 
targeted.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 13:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SpamBelt


The  subscribe to the following theory:
Its only SPAM if someone else sends it. We send out specially targeted
marketing material" 


-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Why would a company who sends me so much SPAM sell a product called
"SpamSucks!"?  Especially spam trying to sell me a product called
"SpamSucks!"  And sent with a throw-away account at juno.com as a reply-to
address, yet sent through a spamming firm's (roving.com) servers... yeesh.
How many more alarms need to go off here before people realize how
egregiously these people commit the crime they're purported to guard
against???

Just trying to help a struggling business gain exposure to their target
audience...  We now return you to your regularly scheduled technical
discussion.  I'll be over there adding sunbelt.com to my smtp gateway
filters if you need me.  Not that it'll help me since they obfuscate the
injection point of their spam.

-tom

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Del Items Recovery- Public Folder failure

[MS Exchange List]

Hello,

OS: W2K SP3 + Security Hot fixes
E2K SP3 + 03/03 Store Roll-up

Recovering a Public Folder with "Recover Deleted Items" results in the error:

"Outlook was unable to recover some or all of the items in this folder.  Make sure you 
have the required permissions to recover items in this folder, and try again.  If the 
problem persists, contact your administrator."

Sadly, I am the Administrator.
 
This 1 PF is 3 levels down, messages in it, but no sub-folders.  The user that deleted 
it has Owner rights for the folder it was deleted from and the deleted folder itself.  
As do Email Admins.  The Owner that deleted it gets the same error I do when they try 
to recover it (I turned "dumpster always on" for them).

The behavior is you can see the folder to recover, it lets you start recovery, you can 
see the folder appear and messages then start to appear in it (if you're watching from 
a different Outlook client), and then right at the end you get the above error and it  
vanishes from the PF structure.  It is then in "Recover Deleted Items" again and ready 
for another try.

What I've done:

-I have tested creating, deleting, and recovering other folders with similar Rights, 
(and ones not similar) etc... and all works fine.

-I have run "isinteg -s ... -fix -test alltests" against the PF store.

-I have turned off Virus scanning (Trend Scanmail).

-I've searched Google Groups, and it looks like the last couple months there are a 
quite a few Admins in the same boat as me.  The only happy endings I found were one 
that ran isinteg, and one that just kept trying and trying and finally it worked (feel 
the power of Admin).  

One thing that comes to mind is that this PF was probably created back in the Exchange 
5.5 days and was on a server upgraded in place to E2K.

Any tips?

Thanks,
Brent

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RE: SpamBelt

[Akerlund, Scott]

Not only that, but since lots of us asked to be on the mailing list of
Sunbelt.com it's not spam because we "opted" to have them send us that kind of
stuff.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SpamBelt


And in fact, if they send enough of it, their messages are guaranteed to be
perfectly targeted.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 13:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SpamBelt


The  subscribe to the following theory:
Its only SPAM if someone else sends it. We send out specially targeted
marketing material" 


-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Why would a company who sends me so much SPAM sell a product called
"SpamSucks!"?  Especially spam trying to sell me a product called "SpamSucks!"
And sent with a throw-away account at juno.com as a reply-to address, yet sent
through a spamming firm's (roving.com) servers... yeesh. How many more alarms
need to go off here before people realize how egregiously these people commit
the crime they're purported to guard against???

Just trying to help a struggling business gain exposure to their target
audience...  We now return you to your regularly scheduled technical
discussion.  I'll be over there adding sunbelt.com to my smtp gateway filters
if you need me.  Not that it'll help me since they obfuscate the injection
point of their spam.

-tom

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Exchange 2000 Contact to fax connector?

[jclin]

Well what I've been asked to look into is if you were to send an outlook
contact who only has a fax number, how can you get exchange server to
transfer the message to MSFAX?  If anyone has any tips I'd be grateful,
tahnks.

Well I'm just looking into this right now, but I'm wondering if anyone
here has any resources or any tips as to how I can achieve this.

Justin

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RE: Exchange 2000 Contact to fax connector?

[Martin Blackstone]

You will need a 3rd party fax server. GFI Faxmaker is a nice and well priced
system. 


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Well what I've been asked to look into is if you were to send an outlook
contact who only has a fax number, how can you get exchange server to
transfer the message to MSFAX?  If anyone has any tips I'd be grateful,
tahnks.

Well I'm just looking into this right now, but I'm wondering if anyone here
has any resources or any tips as to how I can achieve this.

Justin

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RE: Front End Server

[Fioon]

A. HP Netserver LH 3000.  PIII.   1GHZ.   1.128GB RAM.   RAID 5.
B. Can I just disable the setting in the backend (on the configuration for
front end)? 
Lets said, OWA. Can I disable the OWA Setting in Backend for OWA Logging in
FrontEnd.. and redirect back the OWA Logging in Backend? 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Front End Server


A. Insufficient data.
B. Probably, depending on the products in use.

-Original Message-
From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, May 26, 2003 10:22 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Front End Server
Subject: Front End Server


Hi,

On the progress to upgrade Exchange5.5&Win4.0 to Ex2K&2K. So would like
take some consideration on the Front End Server. We would like the Front
End Server to work on these :-

1. Spam Filtering
2. NAV Exchange Scanning
3. Mail Relay
4. OWA Logging

A. Do you guys think all this work on one server will be very burden to
the server? B. If my Front End Server down, (OWA Logging,Mail Relay,NAV)
should be able to redirect to the backend right?

Rgds
Fioon


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Remote sites

[Leeann McCallum]

I know this is probably a dumb question.  In fact, I KNOW this is a dumb
question for a Friday.

I've set up a test nt4, 5.5 environment by doing a couple of restores (both
IS and DS) from 2 sites in our live environment.  (Several reasons for this
incl. recovering a few public folders, testing our DR procedures, and
preparing for a 2K upgrade)

Our live environment is actually 5 sites, however I was wondering if it is
possible to somehow remove the 3 sites from the Directory that I don't
intend to restore.

I have tried removing the connectors (x400 and DRC) from the gateway server,
but there is no server in the site to contact to delete.

I'm thinking I need to somehow remove these 3 orphan sites, and perhaps
running admin in raw state, but this is just Friday theorising.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
Leeann



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Re: SpamBelt

[Martin Tuip [MVP]]

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for the conference. Once the conference is over you delete the mailbox.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Akerlund, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: SpamBelt


> Not only that, but since lots of us asked to be on the mailing list of
> Sunbelt.com it's not spam because we "opted" to have them send us that
kind of
> stuff.
>
> Scott
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:45 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: SpamBelt
>
>
> And in fact, if they send enough of it, their messages are guaranteed to
be
> perfectly targeted.
>
> -Peter
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 13:17
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: SpamBelt
>
>
> The  subscribe to the following theory:
> Its only SPAM if someone else sends it. We send out specially targeted
> marketing material"
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:08 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
>
> Why would a company who sends me so much SPAM sell a product called
> "SpamSucks!"?  Especially spam trying to sell me a product called
"SpamSucks!"
> And sent with a throw-away account at juno.com as a reply-to address, yet
sent
> through a spamming firm's (roving.com) servers... yeesh. How many more
alarms
> need to go off here before people realize how egregiously these people
commit
> the crime they're purported to guard against???
>
> Just trying to help a struggling business gain exposure to their target
> audience...  We now return you to your regularly scheduled technical
> discussion.  I'll be over there adding sunbelt.com to my smtp gateway
filters
> if you need me.  Not that it'll help me since they obfuscate the injection
> point of their spam.
>
> -tom
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RE: Del Items Recovery- Public Folder failure

[Dumke, Jane]

I've found that when this happens to us (and it has several times), that
there were probably "ghost" permissions on the folder from an account
that has been removed from AD.  We've never been successful in
recovering one of those.

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



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Subject: Del Items Recovery- Public Folder failure



Hello,

OS: W2K SP3 + Security Hot fixes
E2K SP3 + 03/03 Store Roll-up

Recovering a Public Folder with "Recover Deleted Items" results in the
error:

"Outlook was unable to recover some or all of the items in this folder.
Make sure you have the required permissions to recover items in this
folder, and try again.  If the problem persists, contact your
administrator."

Sadly, I am the Administrator.
 
This 1 PF is 3 levels down, messages in it, but no sub-folders.  The
user that deleted it has Owner rights for the folder it was deleted from
and the deleted folder itself.  As do Email Admins.  The Owner that
deleted it gets the same error I do when they try to recover it (I
turned "dumpster always on" for them).

The behavior is you can see the folder to recover, it lets you start
recovery, you can see the folder appear and messages then start to
appear in it (if you're watching from a different Outlook client), and
then right at the end you get the above error and it  vanishes from the
PF structure.  It is then in "Recover Deleted Items" again and ready for
another try.

What I've done:

-I have tested creating, deleting, and recovering other folders with
similar Rights, (and ones not similar) etc... and all works fine.

-I have run "isinteg -s ... -fix -test alltests" against the PF store.

-I have turned off Virus scanning (Trend Scanmail).

-I've searched Google Groups, and it looks like the last couple months
there are a quite a few Admins in the same boat as me.  The only happy
endings I found were one that ran isinteg, and one that just kept trying
and trying and finally it worked (feel the power of Admin).  

One thing that comes to mind is that this PF was probably created back
in the Exchange 5.5 days and was on a server upgraded in place to E2K.

Any tips?

Thanks,
Brent

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RE: SpamBelt

[Robert Moir]

 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 29 May 2003 21:08
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Why would a company who sends me so much SPAM sell a product 
> called "SpamSucks!"?  Especially spam trying to sell me a 
> product called "SpamSucks!"  And sent with a throw-away 
> account at juno.com as a reply-to address, yet sent through a 
> spamming firm's (roving.com) servers... yeesh.  How many more 
> alarms need to go off here before people realize how 
> egregiously these people commit the crime they're purported 
> to guard against???
> 
> Just trying to help a struggling business gain exposure to 
> their target audience...  We now return you to your regularly 
> scheduled technical discussion.  I'll be over there adding 
> sunbelt.com to my smtp gateway filters if you need me.  Not 
> that it'll help me since they obfuscate the injection point 
> of their spam.

Assuming spambelt's target audience is the /dev/nul device on my SMTP
gateway I am pleased to report they have 100% market penetration and a
good rapport with their recipients and have done so for a couple of
years now.

Of course if they think they are actually sending that drivel to real
live actual people here then I guess suddenly things don't look quite so
rosy.

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Public Folder Replication Across Routing Groups

[Neil Doody]

Hi, to combat a problem I have been having, I have recreated the
configuration within Exchange, and used different routing groups for
different servers to accomplish the same setup as I had previously.

However, since putting the different servers in different routing
groups, public folders are no longer working.  The public folders work
at head office where I am, but at remote sites where servers are in a
different routing group, the public folders cannot be accessed and they
say that they probably haven't been replicated.

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Exchange for macs

[Mustafa Ibrahim]

Hi guys,

I am setting up exchange 5 for mac clients, what services do I need to get
it up and running? Many thanks in advance

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RE: SpamBelt

[Erik Sojka]

Not quite.  
I'm merely pointing out the difference here ;)
 
If Tom's talking about the same message I got today, it was "targeted"
to TechEd attendees, and not to any and every @$$hole who has ever
browsed Sunbelt's website (i.e. their normal "targeted" audience).
 
Of course, Sunbelt's messages in this case can still be construed as
being vaguely requested (I get a boatload of junk from MEC/TechEd
vendors) - it is assumed that all MEC/TechEd vendors get the list of
attendees.  
 
The question remains why Sunbelt chose this particular message to look
extremely spammy (See Tom's note re: roving.com and juno).
 

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Sent: Thu 29-May-03 6:13 PM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: SpamBelt



Not only that, but since lots of us asked to be on the mailing
list of
Sunbelt.com it's not spam because we "opted" to have them send
us that kind of
stuff.

Scott


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RE: Exchange for macs

[Couch, Nate]

You don't need to do anything on the Exchange server.

For the Macintoshes themselves all you need is a hosts file with entries for
the Exchange server(s) and the DNS servers since Macs don't use WINS.

Then on the client side make sure you are not using Appletalk since that is
a chatty service.  Set them up for strictly TCPIP.

In your TCPIP control panel make sure they have the DNS servers in their
search list and that should be it.


Nate Couch
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> To:   Exchange Discussions
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> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I am setting up exchange 5 for mac clients, what services do I need to get
> it up and running? Many thanks in advance
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