RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Not heard of those two, but having used both Symantec Enterprise Vault and EMC EmailXtender/Sourceone I'm firmly of the belief that all archiving solutions have their faults! Archiving is great for some things, mainly keeping all emails ever safe from deletion, and for compliance, etc. It's terrible at space saving, I've now worked at 2 places who implemented archiving to save space on exchange and in both cases it has been a nightmare! It increases backups, adds complexity and degrades end user experience. Am I jaded, probably, but I deal with the fallout every day! If space is the only issue buy a bigger exchange server, or even better buy another. PST ingestion is a good thing, but in order to access that mail though outlook/OWA you will need stub messages for all those messages in exchange. You will need to seriously consider the impact of this on performance and space, this is often overlooked. Nick Turner From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CC250A.43695920] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist This electronic message contains information from CACI International Inc or subsidiary companies, which may be confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be used solely by the recipient(s) named above. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this transmission or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us immediately at postmas...@caci.co.uk Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. CACI Limited. Registered in England Wales. Registration No. 1649776. CACI House, Avonmore Road, London, W14 8TS. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.jpg
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.jpg
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Are Exchange online archives accessible offline, if Cached Exchange Mode is implemented? From: bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [Description: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.jpg
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Hi Simon I have considered the Exchange 2010 Archiving solution but unless I have misunderstood, if I create a new database for the Archived Email it still needs to be on my exchange server. I cannot map a drive to another server with slower / cheaper disks. Or I need to install another copy of Exchange on the slower server that will host the Archive database. Also the Exchange 2010 archiving will not allow people to view archived email whilst not attached to the internet. (Or so I understand) We have a lot of staff that work away from the office and travel a lot and they have requested that they would like to see archived email whilst not connected to the internet. (Like they can with their wonderful PST files). If possible I would also like to be able to Archive Public Folders which the Exchange 2010 Archiver cannot do at the moment. If you can correct my understanding of any of the above then I would look at the Exchange 2010 Archive tool because it is very easy to implement. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Hi Kevan, I wouldn't let the costs of a new server / license worry you - you'll be paying through the nose for a third-party archiving solution anyway :) but yes, the Exchange archive lives on an Exchange database, but it doesn't have to be the same database or server as your primary mailbox (so long as you're running SP1). Richard From: bounce-9350322-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350322-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Kevan Dickinson Sent: 07 June 2011 14:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Hi Simon I have considered the Exchange 2010 Archiving solution but unless I have misunderstood, if I create a new database for the Archived Email it still needs to be on my exchange server. I cannot map a drive to another server with slower / cheaper disks. Or I need to install another copy of Exchange on the slower server that will host the Archive database. Also the Exchange 2010 archiving will not allow people to view archived email whilst not attached to the internet. (Or so I understand) We have a lot of staff that work away from the office and travel a lot and they have requested that they would like to see archived email whilst not connected to the internet. (Like they can with their wonderful PST files). If possible I would also like to be able to Archive Public Folders which the Exchange 2010 Archiver cannot do at the moment. If you can correct my understanding of any of the above then I would look at the Exchange 2010 Archive tool because it is very easy to implement. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
No. Are third-party archiving solutions available if you don't have Internet access? ;-) Probably not... Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Are Exchange online archives accessible offline, if Cached Exchange Mode is implemented? From: bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [Description: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.jpg
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
I should say network access, not Internet. Sorry about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions No. Are third-party archiving solutions available if you don't have Internet access? ;-) Probably not... Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Are Exchange online archives accessible offline, if Cached Exchange Mode is implemented? From: bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [Description: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Heh. Touché :) Actually, Symantec Enterprise Vault has a Vault Cache / Offline Vault (sheesh, I can never remember that, it changed from one to the other in v89) that lets you cache archived information locally for offline access. Richard From: bounce-9350340-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350340-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 07 June 2011 14:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions No. Are third-party archiving solutions available if you don't have Internet access? ;-) Probably not... Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Are Exchange online archives accessible offline, if Cached Exchange Mode is implemented? From: bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [Description: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Hi Both the products I mentioned are supposed to have archived email available off line with their archive client installed. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 14:39 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions I should say network access, not Internet. Sorry about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions No. Are third-party archiving solutions available if you don't have Internet access? ;-) Probably not... Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Are Exchange online archives accessible offline, if Cached Exchange Mode is implemented? From: bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [Description: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
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No they are not. Exchange 2010 Online Archive does not provide mobile access either. These may not be an issue in your environment, but this is why you should define your requirements prior to looking at products. Chuck Robinson ___ Sr. Solutions Architect MCITP:EA, Messaging / MCSE: Messaging EMC Consulting Mobile: 973-865-0394 chuck.robin...@emc.commailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com www.emc.com/consultinghttp://www.emc.com/consulting Transforming Information Into Business Results From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Are Exchange online archives accessible offline, if Cached Exchange Mode is implemented? From: bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [Description: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email
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I wonder if it would be possible to cache the archive as a second mailbox in outlook, won't help much with OWA, but apparently possible in outlook which i never knew http://communified.net/archive/2009/05/08/caching-shared-additional-mailboxes-in-outlook-2007.aspx Other things to consider with archiving are making sure that any outlook add-ins you might have are compatible. We've got major problems here caused by the SAGE CRM add-in clashing with the SourceOne add-in which adds up to a huge headache. Make sure your users aren't relying on anything that plugs into outlook! Having it thrust upon me now twice as an admin I can assure you that once implemented it will probably become the biggest headache and largest creator of work in your daily life! Nick Turner From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: 07 June 2011 14:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Hi Kevan, I wouldn't let the costs of a new server / license worry you - you'll be paying through the nose for a third-party archiving solution anyway :) but yes, the Exchange archive lives on an Exchange database, but it doesn't have to be the same database or server as your primary mailbox (so long as you're running SP1). Richard From: bounce-9350322-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350322-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Kevan Dickinson Sent: 07 June 2011 14:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Hi Simon I have considered the Exchange 2010 Archiving solution but unless I have misunderstood, if I create a new database for the Archived Email it still needs to be on my exchange server. I cannot map a drive to another server with slower / cheaper disks. Or I need to install another copy of Exchange on the slower server that will host the Archive database. Also the Exchange 2010 archiving will not allow people to view archived email whilst not attached to the internet. (Or so I understand) We have a lot of staff that work away from the office and travel a lot and they have requested that they would like to see archived email whilst not connected to the internet. (Like they can with their wonderful PST files). If possible I would also like to be able to Archive Public Folders which the Exchange 2010 Archiver cannot do at the moment. If you can correct my understanding of any of the above then I would look at the Exchange 2010 Archive tool because it is very easy to implement. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CC251F.2970BD50] From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf
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I've been running MessageSolution for a few years. I have one Exchange 2003 server with about 200 mailboxes. In the beginning, it was an almost complete disaster. The size of my mail store just about doubled by the time it was done with the initial archive operation, OWA became completely inaccessible every few days, and on Exchange store.exe started crashing on a regular basis. The MessageSolution software would sometimes just stop archiving. It was so bad that I asked for a refund, but they asked me to give them a chance to make everything right. They did eventually (a couple of months of troubleshooting) get it all working, although I never did regain the space in my database. It has been working OK for a couple of years now. One thing to note, I haven't had to use tech support over a year, so this may have changed, but their developers all seem to be based in China. For any issue that required their expertise, I had to give them remote access to my EEA server and they would work on in during what was for me the overnight hours. Some other issues - make them show you everything actually working - pst import, exporting archived messages to pst files, restoring messages, etc. Some of these things seem to work through the web interface, and others don't. Some functions, you have to use a separate utility instead of the web interface - I think searching for messages and then exporting the matching messages to pst was one of these. It works seamlessly (now) in OWA - users have no indication that they are viewing a stubbed message. In Outlook, in the preview pane, stubbed messages have a button to view the message but double clicking opens the original message as usual. The Outlook plugin often gets disabled and requires reenabling in Outlook. I see this also on other Outlook plugins, e.g. the Vipre plugin we use, so I don't know if this is a problem with the plugins, our environment, or just par for the course. One thing I do use all the time is the searching the archive - I'll search the archive even for recent messages since it often faster than scrolling through my inbox if I can't remember the sender and or subject You can't do a search from within OWA - for that you have to log into the EEA web interface. So for users on the road to search their archive you would have to make the EEA server available from the outside (VPN, port forwarding, etc.). So, bottom line, I am satisfied with the product now, since over the past couple of years it has worked acceptably well, but if I had to do it all over again I would choose a different solution. Ralph From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 6:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.com http://www.nsf-cmi.com ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions
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Hi Ralph Thank you for this feedback. It is very useful. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: 07 June 2011 15:39 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions I've been running MessageSolution for a few years. I have one Exchange 2003 server with about 200 mailboxes. In the beginning, it was an almost complete disaster. The size of my mail store just about doubled by the time it was done with the initial archive operation, OWA became completely inaccessible every few days, and on Exchange store.exe started crashing on a regular basis. The MessageSolution software would sometimes just stop archiving. It was so bad that I asked for a refund, but they asked me to give them a chance to make everything right. They did eventually (a couple of months of troubleshooting) get it all working, although I never did regain the space in my database. It has been working OK for a couple of years now. One thing to note, I haven't had to use tech support over a year, so this may have changed, but their developers all seem to be based in China. For any issue that required their expertise, I had to give them remote access to my EEA server and they would work on in during what was for me the overnight hours. Some other issues - make them show you everything actually working - pst import, exporting archived messages to pst files, restoring messages, etc. Some of these things seem to work through the web interface, and others don't. Some functions, you have to use a separate utility instead of the web interface - I think searching for messages and then exporting the matching messages to pst was one of these. It works seamlessly (now) in OWA - users have no indication that they are viewing a stubbed message. In Outlook, in the preview pane, stubbed messages have a button to view the message but double clicking opens the original message as usual. The Outlook plugin often gets disabled and requires reenabling in Outlook. I see this also on other Outlook plugins, e.g. the Vipre plugin we use, so I don't know if this is a problem with the plugins, our environment, or just par for the course. One thing I do use all the time is the searching the archive - I'll search the archive even for recent messages since it often faster than scrolling through my inbox if I can't remember the sender and or subject You can't do a search from within OWA - for that you have to log into the EEA web interface. So for users on the road to search their archive you would have to make the EEA server available from the outside (VPN, port forwarding, etc.). So, bottom line, I am satisfied with the product now, since over the past couple of years it has worked acceptably well, but if I had to do it all over again I would choose a different solution. Ralph From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 6:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence
Re: Email Archiving Solutions
I’m running Metalogix (formerly Sunbelt e-mail Archiver) for about 3 years. About 250 users, about 8.4 mil e-mails archived and 392 Gb used space. It works great with OWA and Remote Outlook. Support is pretty good. I have no complaints would recommend the product. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix “Archive Manager” and MessageSolutions “Enterprise Email Archive” Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards *Kevan Dickinson* Network Manager *NSF-CMi Ltd* 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.com [image: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Stefan Jafs --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistimage001.jpg
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Hi Stefan Do you know where is your support based? Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 16:22 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions I'm running Metalogix (formerly Sunbelt e-mail Archiver) for about 3 years. About 250 users, about 8.4 mil e-mails archived and 392 Gb used space. It works great with OWA and Remote Outlook. Support is pretty good. I have no complaints would recommend the product. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Stefan Jafs --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office: Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.jpg
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I forgot, running Exchange 2007 SP3 Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote: I’m running Metalogix (formerly Sunbelt e-mail Archiver) for about 3 years. About 250 users, about 8.4 mil e-mails archived and 392 Gb used space. It works great with OWA and Remote Outlook. Support is pretty good. I have no complaints would recommend the product. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix “Archive Manager” and MessageSolutions “Enterprise Email Archive” Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards *Kevan Dickinson* Network Manager *NSF-CMi Ltd* 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.com [image: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Stefan Jafs -- Stefan Jafs --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistimage001.jpg
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That was my other choice when I chose MessageSolution. At the time I didn't want to have to purchase MS SQL server, and wasn't sure if the 4 GB limit on SQL Express 2005 would be enough. In hindsight I should have gone with Sunbelt. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions I'm running Metalogix (formerly Sunbelt e-mail Archiver) for about 3 years. About 250 users, about 8.4 mil e-mails archived and 392 Gb used space. It works great with OWA and Remote Outlook. Support is pretty good. I have no complaints would recommend the product. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.com http://www.nsf-cmi.com ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Stefan Jafs --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: --- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistimage001.jpg
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Somewhere in the EU from what I gathered last time I was on a support call. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Hi Stefan Do you know where is your support based? Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CC2505.FE4460A0] From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 16:22 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions I'm running Metalogix (formerly Sunbelt e-mail Archiver) for about 3 years. About 250 users, about 8.4 mil e-mails archived and 392 Gb used space. It works great with OWA and Remote Outlook. Support is pretty good. I have no complaints would recommend the product. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CC2505.FE4460A0] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Stefan Jafs --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR
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There is some local support Pennsylvania I think, but the more difficult issues are dealt with in Slovakia I think. I had a phone support ones with eastern Europe but the guy was very knowledgeable and professional and it was fixed very quickly. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: Hi Stefan Do you know where is your support based? Regards *Kevan Dickinson* Network Manager *NSF-CMi Ltd* 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.com [image: NSF-CMi logo] *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 07 June 2011 16:22 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Email Archiving Solutions I’m running Metalogix (formerly Sunbelt e-mail Archiver) for about 3 years. About 250 users, about 8.4 mil e-mails archived and 392 Gb used space. It works great with OWA and Remote Outlook. Support is pretty good. I have no complaints would recommend the product. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix “Archive Manager” and MessageSolutions “Enterprise Email Archive” Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards *Kevan Dickinson* Network Manager *NSF-CMi Ltd* 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.com [image: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Stefan Jafs --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body
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Jatheon - Original Message - From: Ara Avvali aavv...@questrade.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:40:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Email Archiving Hi everyone, Just wondering what do you guys use on 2010 for archiving. Symantec ent vault does not support 2010 yet. Thank you The information in this document and attachments is confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately and then delete this document. All reasonable care has been taken to ensure the correctness of the information provided in this document, however it constitutes an overview and does not constitute advice. While all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No responsibility is accepted by Questrade, Inc. in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate.
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Note: you better have the latest update (as of about a month ago) or they’ll have issues in a coexistence environment. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Jatheon - Original Message - From: Ara Avvali aavv...@questrade.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:40:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Email Archiving Hi everyone, Just wondering what do you guys use on 2010 for archiving. Symantec ent vault does not support 2010 yet. Thank you The information in this document and attachments is confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately and then delete this document. All reasonable care has been taken to ensure the correctness of the information provided in this document, however it constitutes an overview and does not constitute advice. While all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No responsibility is accepted by Questrade, Inc. in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate.
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They have differnt boxes for how much you need. We have one of the big ones that support 2,000 ish users with about 4-6 mil emails a month. On Mar 3, 2009 7:10 PM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.com wrote: How well do they scale? Is one box good for 100 users? 1000? 10,000? 25,000? 50,000? How do multiple boxes (assuming that's an option) work together? - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld - Original Message - From: Ben Nordlander bennordlan...@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin I... Sent: Tue Mar 03 19:46:28 2009 Subject: Re: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Check out the arcmail def... [ MCSE+I - Win4.0/ MCSE - Win2k/ BJCP # C0389(Recognized)¬ ] Systems Administrator Gardner Publications, Inc. *Phone .. 1-513-527-8867 *Fax 1-... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbelt... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Have a look at Zantaz -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: 03 March 2009 16:15 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __ __ This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this message or its contents may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by electronic mail and delete the original message and any attachments without retaining any copies. _ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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How big is your environment? How many users, how big are your databases now? What are your business requirements? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM, John Bowles john_bow...@yahoo.com wrote: All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Maybe for a small business. Horrible for the enterprise unless you really like to babysit an application... On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote: Thrilled with GFI for Exchange. -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Are you looking at handling it yourself (i.e., special hardware/software on your end) or having an outside company do it all? We're in the market for a solution here, too. I'm leaning towards having the solution hosted by a vendor, but can't find anything affordable so far. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Basic requirements are as follows: - User base is 5-600 users -PST Archiving is a must -Seamless integration to Outlook clients That's all I have for now, this is a customer of ours and I haven't been onsite for an assessment yet. Thanks again, _ John Bowles From: Don Ely don@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:27:38 AM Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions How big is your environment? How many users, how big are your databases now? What are your business requirements? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM, John Bowles john_bow...@yahoo.com wrote: All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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This is to be hosted in house. They are not considering any outside vendors. Thank you, _ John Bowles - Original Message From: John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:29:56 AM Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Are you looking at handling it yourself (i.e., special hardware/software on your end) or having an outside company do it all? We're in the market for a solution here, too. I'm leaning towards having the solution hosted by a vendor, but can't find anything affordable so far. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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The list host's SEA should be a definite look-see. I'd also recommend you take a look at Red-Gates new solution. It's drop-dead EASY. http://www.red-gate.com/products/Exchange/index.htm From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions Basic requirements are as follows: - User base is 5-600 users -PST Archiving is a must -Seamless integration to Outlook clients That's all I have for now, this is a customer of ours and I haven't been onsite for an assessment yet. Thanks again, _ John Bowles _ From: Don Ely don@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:27:38 AM Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions How big is your environment? How many users, how big are your databases now? What are your business requirements? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM, John Bowles john_bow...@yahoo.com wrote: All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Michael in your travels have you run into anyone running emailextender from EMC? We are also looking at email archiving and since we already have two EMC Centera's for our medical records archiving I am being ask to look at their product. dave From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions The list host's SEA should be a definite look-see. I'd also recommend you take a look at Red-Gates new solution. It's drop-dead EASY. http://www.red-gate.com/products/Exchange/index.htm From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions Basic requirements are as follows: - User base is 5-600 users -PST Archiving is a must -Seamless integration to Outlook clients That's all I have for now, this is a customer of ours and I haven't been onsite for an assessment yet. Thanks again, _ John Bowles From: Don Ely don@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:27:38 AM Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions How big is your environment? How many users, how big are your databases now? What are your business requirements? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM, John Bowles john_bow...@yahoo.com wrote: All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I haven't. Most of my customers are in the SMORG (Microsoft term for small and medium organization) space and don't play with larger EMC solutions. I do know two Exchange MVPs who work for EMC. If you have specific questions, I can certainly get them answered for you. From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Michael in your travels have you run into anyone running emailextender from EMC? We are also looking at email archiving and since we already have two EMC Centera's for our medical records archiving I am being ask to look at their product. dave From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions The list host's SEA should be a definite look-see. I'd also recommend you take a look at Red-Gates new solution. It's drop-dead EASY. http://www.red-gate.com/products/Exchange/index.htm From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions Basic requirements are as follows: - User base is 5-600 users -PST Archiving is a must -Seamless integration to Outlook clients That's all I have for now, this is a customer of ours and I haven't been onsite for an assessment yet. Thanks again, _ John Bowles _ From: Don Ely don@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:27:38 AM Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions How big is your environment? How many users, how big are your databases now? What are your business requirements? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM, John Bowles john_bow...@yahoo.com wrote: All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I've looked at these 2 - both were very similar in their approach and both charge for historical archiving ie. archiving the databases and PSTs http://www.messagesolution.com/ http://www.hs-soft.com http://www.hs-soft.com/ Richard Sice IT Manager Goldschmidt Howland Ltd Tel: 020 8347 2678 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: 03 March 2009 17:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject RE: Email Archiving I haven't. Most of my customers are in the SMORG (Microsoft term for small and medium organization) space and don't play with larger EMC solutions. I do know two Exchange MVPs who work for EMC. If you have specific questions, I can certainly get them answered for you. From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Michael in your travels have you run into anyone running emailextender from EMC? We are also looking at email archiving and since we already have two EMC Centera's for our medical records archiving I am being ask to look at their product. dave From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions The list host's SEA should be a definite look-see. I'd also recommend you take a look at Red-Gates new solution. It's drop-dead EASY. http://www.red-gate.com/products/Exchange/index.htm From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions Basic requirements are as follows: - User base is 5-600 users -PST Archiving is a must -Seamless integration to Outlook clients That's all I have for now, this is a customer of ours and I haven't been onsite for an assessment yet. Thanks again, _ John Bowles From: Don Ely don@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:27:38 AM Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions How big is your environment? How many users, how big are your databases now? What are your business requirements? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM, John Bowles john_bow...@yahoo.com wrote: All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege or may otherwise be protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. It must not be disclosed to any person without our written authority. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are not authorised to and must not disclose, copy, use, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. Please contact us immediately and delete the email from your computer system and destroy any hard copies you may have made. The opinions, statements and thoughts expressed in this e-mail and its attachments if any are those of the individual sender and not necessarily Goldschmidt Howland's or any associated personnel. Goldschmidt Howland believes this e-mail and any attachments are free of any virus or other defect which may affect a computer. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and Goldschmidt Howland does not accept any responsibility for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. Goldschmidt Howland Registered Office: Stanhope House, 4-8 Highgate High Street, London N6 5JL ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Like I said I have two centera's at two locations doing replication already. The emc engineer that installed this showed me a demo of the emailextender and it looked like it fit the bill. The prelim quote I saw was not too far off what others including our host (SEA) proposed. I'm thinking the existing in-place replication to an offsite is going to be hard to beat. Also considering the economic times I may be able to get a better deal yet. No I don't have any specific questions but if we go down that route I may queue up a few your way. Thanks dave From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions I haven't. Most of my customers are in the SMORG (Microsoft term for small and medium organization) space and don't play with larger EMC solutions. I do know two Exchange MVPs who work for EMC. If you have specific questions, I can certainly get them answered for you. From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Michael in your travels have you run into anyone running emailextender from EMC? We are also looking at email archiving and since we already have two EMC Centera's for our medical records archiving I am being ask to look at their product. dave From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions The list host's SEA should be a definite look-see. I'd also recommend you take a look at Red-Gates new solution. It's drop-dead EASY. http://www.red-gate.com/products/Exchange/index.htm From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions Basic requirements are as follows: - User base is 5-600 users -PST Archiving is a must -Seamless integration to Outlook clients That's all I have for now, this is a customer of ours and I haven't been onsite for an assessment yet. Thanks again, _ John Bowles From: Don Ely don@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:27:38 AM Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions How big is your environment? How many users, how big are your databases now? What are your business requirements? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM, John Bowles john_bow...@yahoo.com wrote: All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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John, sounds like an idea environment for SEA. List Members get a discount. http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/Sunbelt-Exchange-Archiver/ Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Founder, VP Marketing. P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions This is to be hosted in house. They are not considering any outside vendors. Thank you, _ John Bowles - Original Message From: John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:29:56 AM Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Are you looking at handling it yourself (i.e., special hardware/software on your end) or having an outside company do it all? We're in the market for a solution here, too. I'm leaning towards having the solution hosted by a vendor, but can't find anything affordable so far. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ .. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I've taken a look at both and they both seem quite simple.. but who has had some working experience with any of these two? As for anything it can do anything you want it to do and more.. but when you actually implement it you discover pains and bugs etc and it's not as great is you thought it was going to be when you looked at it on the website. Know what I'm saying? Thank you, _ John Bowles From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:43:25 AM Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions The list host’s SEA should be a definite look-see. I’d also recommend you take a look at Red-Gates new solution. It’s drop-dead EASY. http://www.red-gate.com/products/Exchange/index.htm From:John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions Basic requirements are as follows: - User base is 5-600 users -PST Archiving is a must -Seamless integration to Outlook clients That's all I have for now, this is a customer of ours and I haven't been onsite for an assessment yet. Thanks again, _ John Bowles From:Don Ely don@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:27:38 AM Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions How big is your environment? How many users, how big are your databases now? What are your business requirements? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM, John Bowles john_bow...@yahoo.com wrote: All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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We are running the eVault product here. Been in for about 6 months. Not as seamless as they let on but for the most part, one nice product. We paid for professional services to help us design the server(s) needed to implement it into our environment. We are also using the full journaling features for legal reasons. The one thing is that there is an install for Outlook that is needed to help my end users manage the system along w/ some fine tuning for the OWA portion. This also does not work well for the mac users unless they are running some type of XP emulator for the office applications. Felis demulcta mitis ... Alan G. Monaghan [ MCSE+I - Win4.0/ MCSE - Win2k/ BJCP # C0389(Recognized) Ò¿Ó¬ ] Systems Administrator Gardner Publications, Inc. *Phone .. 1-513-527-8867 *Fax 1-513-527-8801 *Cell ... 1-513-378-0919 *E-mail . al...@gardnerweb.com *URL http://Bullwinkle.GardnerWeb.Com/ -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions I've taken a look at both and they both seem quite simple.. but who has had some working experience with any of these two? As for anything it can do anything you want it to do and more.. but when you actually implement it you discover pains and bugs etc and it's not as great is you thought it was going to be when you looked at it on the website. Know what I'm saying? Thank you, _ John Bowles From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:43:25 AM Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions The list host's SEA should be a definite look-see. I'd also recommend you take a look at Red-Gates new solution. It's drop-dead EASY. http://www.red-gate.com/products/Exchange/index.htm From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions Basic requirements are as follows: - User base is 5-600 users -PST Archiving is a must -Seamless integration to Outlook clients That's all I have for now, this is a customer of ours and I haven't been onsite for an assessment yet. Thanks again, _ John Bowles From: Don Ely don@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangel...@lyris..sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:27:38 AM Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions How big is your environment? How many users, how big are your databases now? What are your business requirements? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM, John Bowles john_bow...@yahoo.com wrote: All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I have first hand experience with Evault. That is correct, there is a lot of configuring that needs to be done for that guy to be effective. And you're going to need to rollout the Outlook plug-in as well if you want your users to have all the rich features that comes with Evault. Once you get it configured, it's a nice product, but there are a lot of moving parts to get that thing to work. But by far the best one I've worked with yet. _ John Bowles - Original Message From: Alan Monaghan al...@gardnerweb.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 3:52:02 PM Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions We are running the eVault product here. Been in for about 6 months. Not as seamless as they let on but for the most part, one nice product. We paid for professional services to help us design the server(s) needed to implement it into our environment. We are also using the full journaling features for legal reasons. The one thing is that there is an install for Outlook that is needed to help my end users manage the system along w/ some fine tuning for the OWA portion. This also does not work well for the mac users unless they are running some type of XP emulator for the office applications. Felis demulcta mitis ... Alan G. Monaghan [ MCSE+I - Win4..0/ MCSE - Win2k/ BJCP # C0389(Recognized) Ò¿Ó¬ ] Systems Administrator Gardner Publications, Inc. *Phone .. 1-513-527-8867 *Fax 1-513-527-8801 *Cell ... 1-513-378-0919 *E-mail .. al...@gardnerweb.com *URL http://Bullwinkle.GardnerWeb.Com/ -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions I've taken a look at both and they both seem quite simple.. but who has had some working experience with any of these two? As for anything it can do anything you want it to do and more.. but when you actually implement it you discover pains and bugs etc and it's not as great is you thought it was going to be when you looked at it on the website. Know what I'm saying? Thank you, _ John Bowles From: Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:43:25 AM Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions The list host's SEA should be a definite look-see. I'd also recommend you take a look at Red-Gates new solution. It's drop-dead EASY. http://www.red-gate.com/products/Exchange/index.htm From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions Basic requirements are as follows: - User base is 5-600 users -PST Archiving is a must -Seamless integration to Outlook clients That's all I have for now, this is a customer of ours and I haven't been onsite for an assessment yet. Thanks again, _ John Bowles From: Don Ely don@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangel...@lyris..sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:27:38 AM Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions How big is your environment? How many users, how big are your databases now? What are your business requirements? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM, John Bowles john_bow...@yahoo.com wrote: All- I've been tasked to find some email archiving solutions for our company. Besides Evault from Symantec which ones do you guys/gals recommend? I'm trying to gather a list of 5 different vendors so I can do a thorough eval of all of them. TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Check out the arcmail defender appliances. They are locked down linus boxes. Attractive thing I like about our box ia no per user cost. One price for box plus optional yearly software update and hardware support. On Mar 3, 2009 12:52 PM, Alan Monaghan al...@gardnerweb.com wrote: We are running the eVault product here. Been in for about 6 months. Not as seamless as they let on but for the most part, one nice product. We paid for professional services to help us design the server(s) needed to implement it into our environment. We are also using the full journaling features for legal reasons. The one thing is that there is an install for Outlook that is needed to help my end users manage the system along w/ some fine tuning for the OWA portion. This also does not work well for the mac users unless they are running some type of XP emulator for the office applications. Felis demulcta mitis ... Alan G. Monaghan [ MCSE+I - Win4.0/ MCSE - Win2k/ BJCP # C0389(Recognized) Ò¿Ó¬ ] Systems Administrator Gardner Publications, Inc. *Phone .. 1-513-527-8867 *Fax 1-513-527-8801 *Cell ... 1-513-378-0919 *E-mail . al...@gardnerweb.com *URL http://Bullwinkle.GardnerWeb.Com/ -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto: john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archi... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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How well do they scale? Is one box good for 100 users? 1000? 10,000? 25,000? 50,000? How do multiple boxes (assuming that's an option) work together? - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld - Original Message - From: Ben Nordlander bennordlan...@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tue Mar 03 19:46:28 2009 Subject: Re: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Check out the arcmail defender appliances. They are locked down linus boxes. Attractive thing I like about our box ia no per user cost. One price for box plus optional yearly software update and hardware support. On Mar 3, 2009 12:52 PM, Alan Monaghan al...@gardnerweb.com wrote: We are running the eVault product here. Been in for about 6 months. Not as seamless as they let on but for the most part, one nice product. We paid for professional services to help us design the server(s) needed to implement it into our environment. We are also using the full journaling features for legal reasons. The one thing is that there is an install for Outlook that is needed to help my end users manage the system along w/ some fine tuning for the OWA portion. This also does not work well for the mac users unless they are running some type of XP emulator for the office applications. Felis demulcta mitis ... Alan G. Monaghan [ MCSE+I - Win4.0/ MCSE - Win2k/ BJCP # C0389(Recognized)¬ ] Systems Administrator Gardner Publications, Inc. *Phone .. 1-513-527-8867 *Fax 1-513-527-8801 *Cell ... 1-513-378-0919 *E-mail . al...@gardnerweb.com *URL http://Bullwinkle.GardnerWeb.Com/ -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archi... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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You might want to look at Jatheon. I looked at Barracuda and thier capacity claims were inflated (compressed guess instead of actual physical space) and thier lead engineers lacked answers to my questions. I kind of got the feeling they rushed the product to market. -- Original message -- From: Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will look at SEA too, but I prefer appliances. The cost and headache of adding a pretty beefy server to handle this function is annoying and costly. Has anyone seen Barracuda's archive tool? It is not cheap at $15K for the midrange, but includes your hardware cost in that with RAID-5 and a few other perks. If I am reading Bob's commentary correctly, you would need to purchase the server, SQL 2005 license, Server 2003 license, and then the SEA product. We are making a move sooner than later. Just in PSTs (not counting the redundant ones) we have over 50 GB floating around. What a nightmare. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Scott Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone use Mimosa Systems for archiving? We are looking at this product. It doesn;t use journaling rather log shipping similar to Exchange 2007. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Just one more option in the list. Every time we have a thread like this a new one seems to pop up. Has anyone on the list used Jatheon before? I appreciate the Barracuda feedback. That is just the type of issue I would prefer to avoid in an area like this. On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to look at Jatheon. I looked at Barracuda and thier capacity claims were inflated (compressed guess instead of actual physical space) and thier lead engineers lacked answers to my questions. I kind of got the feeling they rushed the product to market. -- Original message -- From: Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will look at SEA too, but I prefer appliances. The cost and headache of adding a pretty beefy server to handle this function is annoying and costly. Has anyone seen Barracuda's archive tool? It is not cheap at $15K for the midrange, but includes your hardware cost in that with RAID-5 and a few other perks. If I am reading Bob's commentary correctly, you would need to purchase the server, SQL 2005 license, Server 2003 license, and then the SEA product. We are making a move sooner than later. Just in PSTs (not counting the redundant ones) we have over 50 GB floating around. What a nightmare. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Scott Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone use Mimosa Systems for archiving? We are looking at this product. It doesn;t use journaling rather log shipping similar to Exchange 2007. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- http://www.otbdesign.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mqcarpenter ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I will look at SEA too, but I prefer appliances. The cost and headache of adding a pretty beefy server to handle this function is annoying and costly. Has anyone seen Barracuda's archive tool? It is not cheap at $15K for the midrange, but includes your hardware cost in that with RAID-5 and a few other perks. If I am reading Bob's commentary correctly, you would need to purchase the server, SQL 2005 license, Server 2003 license, and then the SEA product. We are making a move sooner than later. Just in PSTs (not counting the redundant ones) we have over 50 GB floating around. What a nightmare. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Scott Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone use Mimosa Systems for archiving? We are looking at this product. It doesn;t use journaling rather log shipping similar to Exchange 2007. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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If you're looking at appliance based archiving, give Proofpoint(formerly Fortiva) a look. - John Barsodi From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving I will look at SEA too, but I prefer appliances. The cost and headache of adding a pretty beefy server to handle this function is annoying and costly. Has anyone seen Barracuda's archive tool? It is not cheap at $15K for the midrange, but includes your hardware cost in that with RAID-5 and a few other perks. If I am reading Bob's commentary correctly, you would need to purchase the server, SQL 2005 license, Server 2003 license, and then the SEA product. We are making a move sooner than later. Just in PSTs (not counting the redundant ones) we have over 50 GB floating around. What a nightmare. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Scott Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone use Mimosa Systems for archiving? We are looking at this product. It doesn;t use journaling rather log shipping similar to Exchange 2007. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I should clarify, it's also offsite. - John Barsodi From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 1:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving If you're looking at appliance based archiving, give Proofpoint(formerly Fortiva) a look. - John Barsodi From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving I will look at SEA too, but I prefer appliances. The cost and headache of adding a pretty beefy server to handle this function is annoying and costly. Has anyone seen Barracuda's archive tool? It is not cheap at $15K for the midrange, but includes your hardware cost in that with RAID-5 and a few other perks. If I am reading Bob's commentary correctly, you would need to purchase the server, SQL 2005 license, Server 2003 license, and then the SEA product. We are making a move sooner than later. Just in PSTs (not counting the redundant ones) we have over 50 GB floating around. What a nightmare. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Scott Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone use Mimosa Systems for archiving? We are looking at this product. It doesn;t use journaling rather log shipping similar to Exchange 2007. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I'm a huge Barracuda fan, but I ended up going with an ArcMail Defender. Setup was incredibly easy. Our host (Sunbelt) also has one, but it's PC based IIRC. Joe Louis Systems Network Manager Guardian Alarm Company (248) 423-1000 x1394 (248) 233-1394 (Direct) (248) 790-9458 (Cell) (248) 233-1389 (NOC) From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 4:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving I will look at SEA too, but I prefer appliances. The cost and headache of adding a pretty beefy server to handle this function is annoying and costly. Has anyone seen Barracuda's archive tool? It is not cheap at $15K for the midrange, but includes your hardware cost in that with RAID-5 and a few other perks. If I am reading Bob's commentary correctly, you would need to purchase the server, SQL 2005 license, Server 2003 license, and then the SEA product. We are making a move sooner than later. Just in PSTs (not counting the redundant ones) we have over 50 GB floating around. What a nightmare. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Scott Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone use Mimosa Systems for archiving? We are looking at this product. It doesn;t use journaling rather log shipping similar to Exchange 2007. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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You mean it is a host based option? On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should clarify, it's also offsite. - John Barsodi *From:* Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, August 15, 2008 1:32 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: email archiving If you're looking at appliance based archiving, give Proofpoint(formerly Fortiva) a look. - John Barsodi *From:* Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, August 15, 2008 1:18 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: email archiving I will look at SEA too, but I prefer appliances. The cost and headache of adding a pretty beefy server to handle this function is annoying and costly. Has anyone seen Barracuda's archive tool? It is not cheap at $15K for the midrange, but includes your hardware cost in that with RAID-5 and a few other perks. If I am reading Bob's commentary correctly, you would need to purchase the server, SQL 2005 license, Server 2003 license, and then the SEA product. We are making a move sooner than later. Just in PSTs (not counting the redundant ones) we have over 50 GB floating around. What a nightmare. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Scott Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone use Mimosa Systems for archiving? We are looking at this product. It doesn;t use journaling rather log shipping similar to Exchange 2007. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- http://www.otbdesign.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mqcarpenter ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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We are making a move sooner than later. Just in PSTs (not counting the redundant ones) we have over 50 GB floating around. What a nightmare. I pray you don't have a nightmare compounded by lawyers. From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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In the SEA world, what does Direct Archiving a user refer to? Is it simply just user mailbox management, stubbing, reduction, etc? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am running Direct Archive with over 150 with no issues on the Exchange side. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving We have customers that are using direct archiving for a little more than 100 mailboxes without problems, but since the bottleneck is the Exchange Server, we do not suggest direct archiving for more than 50 mailboxes. Instead we prefer setting up jobs that run every couple of hours, which has the same effect. Or use journaling, which the product supports. HTH, Alex From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Alex what is the cutoff for a small shop? 250, 500 mailboxes? From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Actually you can opt to use Journaling or not in SEA. There are also environmental considerations to consider, Direct Archving works well in smaller shops but for larger operations, we recommend Journaling instead for overhead reasons. Alex Alex Eckelberry CEO Sunbelt Software 33 N. Garden Avenue, Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] p: 727.562.0101 x220 f: 727-562-3402 w: www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ b: www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving SEA doesn't use Journaling. Direct Archiving eliminates need for Journaling SEA provides a unique Direct Archiving feature that enables archiving of emails immediately after they are received. Direct Archiving is a significant breakthrough in efficient email archiving which eliminates the need for the Exchange Journal mailbox. Immediate archiving onto storage media improves the performance of the Exchange server, helps to ensure legal compliance, and diminishes the necessity to apply scheduler, threshold and quota archiving jobs. From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies
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Refers to the use of an Event Store Sink to perform the archival, rather than a MAPI login or journaling mailbox. From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving In the SEA world, what does Direct Archiving a user refer to? Is it simply just user mailbox management, stubbing, reduction, etc? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am running Direct Archive with over 150 with no issues on the Exchange side. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving We have customers that are using direct archiving for a little more than 100 mailboxes without problems, but since the bottleneck is the Exchange Server, we do not suggest direct archiving for more than 50 mailboxes. Instead we prefer setting up jobs that run every couple of hours, which has the same effect. Or use journaling, which the product supports. HTH, Alex From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Alex what is the cutoff for a small shop? 250, 500 mailboxes? From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Actually you can opt to use Journaling or not in SEA. There are also environmental considerations to consider, Direct Archving works well in smaller shops but for larger operations, we recommend Journaling instead for overhead reasons. Alex Alex Eckelberry CEO Sunbelt Software 33 N. Garden Avenue, Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] p: 727.562.0101 x220 f: 727-562-3402 w: www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ b: www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving SEA doesn't use Journaling. Direct Archiving eliminates need for Journaling SEA provides a unique Direct Archiving feature that enables archiving of emails immediately after they are received. Direct Archiving is a significant breakthrough in efficient email archiving which eliminates the need for the Exchange Journal mailbox. Immediate archiving onto storage media improves the performance of the Exchange server, helps to ensure legal compliance, and diminishes the necessity to apply scheduler, threshold and quota archiving jobs. From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
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Anyone use Mimosa Systems for archiving? We are looking at this product. It doesn;t use journaling rather log shipping similar to Exchange 2007. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Journaling is a feature in Exch. that uses a mailbox to bcc every email that is sent to or from or within your organization. So everything sent or received goes to that mailbox. Then you set up an appliance, or a server...or on the same server if you want to hit that mailbox every few minutes and download those messages. The archiver then organizes those messages into a searchable database. That way they are all on a machine that is secure from the users and the emails cannot be deleted by them There is the appliance route, a box you just plug in and set up. There are also pure software solutions where you bring your own server and add their software to it. We went that route and went with GFI for Exchange. They have nonprofit/education discounts. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.orgblocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Hi Paul, My environment is almost exactly as yours. We are a Non-Profit entity also. We have been using GFI Mail Archiver with SQL Server 2005 which has worked well, however some of the Exchange MVP's may state that Journaling is not a good choice due to the fact it could cause high CPU usage however we have not seen that occur in this environment...yet! YMMV! If I had it to do over again, I would choose another program. One I have looked at is from MailTrust, www.Mailtrust.com http://www.Mailtrust.com or you can go with the one offered by our host, Sunbelt-Software, which looks very nice indeed called, Sunbelt Exchange Archiver. You have to decide if you want to host your own archival solution or outsource. Both have their Pro's and Con's, the biggest negative being security of information in the email's archived if you outsource and loss of control. HTH some, Tom From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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You might think of sharing the name of the solution so as to gain input for others that may have it or looked at it. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is a feature in Exch. that uses a mailbox to bcc every email that is sent to or from or within your organization. So everything sent or received goes to that mailbox. Then you set up an appliance, or a server.or on the same server if you want to hit that mailbox every few minutes and download those messages. The archiver then organizes those messages into a searchable database. That way they are all on a machine that is secure from the users and the emails cannot be deleted by them.. There is the appliance route, a box you just plug in and set up. There are also pure software solutions where you bring your own server and add their software to it. We went that route and went with GFI for Exchange. They have nonprofit/education discounts. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ www.leementalhealth.org to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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It is MessageLabs. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving You might think of sharing the name of the solution so as to gain input for others that may have it or looked at it. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is a feature in Exch. that uses a mailbox to bcc every email that is sent to or from or within your organization. So everything sent or received goes to that mailbox. Then you set up an appliance, or a server...or on the same server if you want to hit that mailbox every few minutes and download those messages. The archiver then organizes those messages into a searchable database. That way they are all on a machine that is secure from the users and the emails cannot be deleted by them There is the appliance route, a box you just plug in and set up. There are also pure software solutions where you bring your own server and add their software to it. We went that route and went with GFI for Exchange. They have nonprofit/education discounts. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Because journaling is turned on (plus a couple of reg hacks) every message that passes through the MTA is archived. We use it here. While it is great for compliance in terms of enforcing our retention policy, it does not help to manage information store sizes as it is just taking a copy of everything. We just put in a solution called Zantaz. It's not cheap, but what it does is takes every email older than a specified date and moves it to archive storage. What's cool though is that the email appears to the user as if it is still in the original folder in outlook, it just changes the icon slightly. It compresses the archive and eliminates duplicates that may have got past single instance storage. We have changed from having 160GB if information store date to having under 20, but then in the mean time the size of the archive is 70 GB because of the compressions etc etc etc. Great solution. Clayton Doige IT Project Manager CME Development Corporation T: 020 7430 5355 M: 07949 255062 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W:www.cetv-net.com From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2008 14:15 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving How does a hosted solution like Messagelabs archive internal email sent tofrom employees? From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving It is MessageLabs. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving You might think of sharing the name of the solution so as to gain input for others that may have it or looked at it. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is a feature in Exch. that uses a mailbox to bcc every email that is sent to or from or within your organization. So everything sent or received goes to that mailbox. Then you set up an appliance, or a server...or on the same server if you want to hit that mailbox every few minutes and download those messages. The archiver then organizes those messages into a searchable database. That way they are all on a machine that is secure from the users and the emails cannot be deleted by them There is the appliance route, a box you just plug in and set up. There are also pure software solutions where you bring your own server and add their software to it. We went that route and went with GFI for Exchange. They have nonprofit/education discounts. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __ __ This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this message or its contents may be subject to legal restriction or sanction
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Ditto on the Zantaz EAS but it's not cheap and may be overkill for smalller shops that don't have compliance issues. From: Doige, Clayton To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 10 09:23:42 2008 Subject: RE: email archiving Because journaling is turned on (plus a couple of reg hacks) every message that passes through the MTA is archived. We use it here. While it is great for compliance in terms of enforcing our retention policy, it does not help to manage information store sizes as it is just taking a copy of everything. We just put in a solution called Zantaz. It’s not cheap, but what it does is takes every email older than a specified date and moves it to archive storage. What’s cool though is that the email appears to the user as if it is still in the original folder in outlook, it just changes the icon slightly. It compresses the archive and eliminates duplicates that may have got past single instance storage. We have changed from having 160GB if information store date to having under 20, but then in the mean time the size of the archive is 70 GB because of the compressions etc etc etc. Great solution. Clayton Doige IT Project Manager CME Development Corporation T: 020 7430 5355 M: 07949 255062 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W:www.cetv-net.comhttp://www.cetv-net.com From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2008 14:15 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving How does a hosted solution like Messagelabs archive internal email sent tofrom employees? From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving It is MessageLabs. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving You might think of sharing the name of the solution so as to gain input for others that may have it or looked at it. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is a feature in Exch. that uses a mailbox to bcc every email that is sent to or from or within your organization. So everything sent or received goes to that mailbox. Then you set up an appliance, or a server…or on the same server if you want to hit that mailbox every few minutes and download those messages. The archiver then organizes those messages into a searchable database. That way they are all on a machine that is secure from the users and the emails cannot be deleted by them…. There is the appliance route, a box you just plug in and set up. There are also pure software solutions where you bring your own server and add their software to it. We went that route and went with GFI for Exchange. They have nonprofit/education discounts. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I’m sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don’t know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling “on” on our Exchange server, and it’s wildly expensive. Can someone give me an “in-a-nutshell” explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.orgblocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __ __ This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential
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I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: email archiving
Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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How does a hosted solution like Messagelabs archive internal email sent tofrom employees? From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving It is MessageLabs. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving You might think of sharing the name of the solution so as to gain input for others that may have it or looked at it. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is a feature in Exch. that uses a mailbox to bcc every email that is sent to or from or within your organization. So everything sent or received goes to that mailbox. Then you set up an appliance, or a server...or on the same server if you want to hit that mailbox every few minutes and download those messages. The archiver then organizes those messages into a searchable database. That way they are all on a machine that is secure from the users and the emails cannot be deleted by them There is the appliance route, a box you just plug in and set up. There are also pure software solutions where you bring your own server and add their software to it. We went that route and went with GFI for Exchange. They have nonprofit/education discounts. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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SEA doesn't use Journaling. Direct Archiving eliminates need for Journaling SEA provides a unique Direct Archiving feature that enables archiving of emails immediately after they are received. Direct Archiving is a significant breakthrough in efficient email archiving which eliminates the need for the Exchange Journal mailbox. Immediate archiving onto storage media improves the performance of the Exchange server, helps to ensure legal compliance, and diminishes the necessity to apply scheduler, threshold and quota archiving jobs. From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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That's good to know. I've gotten approval for an archive system this summer and this is certainly one of my choices. Thanks From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: email archiving
How does that work? I imagine you must need a TON of storage for archiving? Sunbelt claims they can reduce your exchange database, but I don't see how when they are collecting everything that passes through? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: email archiving
It's magic as far as I can tell. Probably a factor of how efficient SQL seems to be with storage. We use GFI and the storage is dramatically smaller than in Exchange. I am sure Sunbelt delivers the same. I have about 100 gigs of active stores on Exchange. When I put it up we did a full archive of the existing stores, then everything sent/received since Feb 1st, yet the archive store is currently 108 gigs. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving How does that work? I imagine you must need a TON of storage for archiving? Sunbelt claims they can reduce your exchange database, but I don't see how when they are collecting everything that passes through? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.orgblocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: email archiving
Is the archive store on the same physical drives as the Exchange store? From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving It's magic as far as I can tell. Probably a factor of how efficient SQL seems to be with storage. We use GFI and the storage is dramatically smaller than in Exchange. I am sure Sunbelt delivers the same. I have about 100 gigs of active stores on Exchange. When I put it up we did a full archive of the existing stores, then everything sent/received since Feb 1st, yet the archive store is currently 108 gigs. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving How does that work? I imagine you must need a TON of storage for archiving? Sunbelt claims they can reduce your exchange database, but I don't see how when they are collecting everything that passes through? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Completely separate server. GFI pulls the messages from the Journaling mailbox, with a glorified Outlook connection. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Is the archive store on the same physical drives as the Exchange store? From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving It's magic as far as I can tell. Probably a factor of how efficient SQL seems to be with storage. We use GFI and the storage is dramatically smaller than in Exchange. I am sure Sunbelt delivers the same. I have about 100 gigs of active stores on Exchange. When I put it up we did a full archive of the existing stores, then everything sent/received since Feb 1st, yet the archive store is currently 108 gigs. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving How does that work? I imagine you must need a TON of storage for archiving? Sunbelt claims they can reduce your exchange database, but I don't see how when they are collecting everything that passes through? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.orgblocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender
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I highly recommend it. Price is better than just about anything else. Performance is good. Support has been excellent. To answer a couple of the other questions posted: RE: Storage: I have 900GB available for my archive. My Exchange store is 250GB. Currently my archive is using about 120GB (all the Exchange store was archived, plus I have about 5 months of active archiving). Everything is compressed, so space use is good in my opinion. You can have SEA move things from Exchange to the archive to reduce Exchange store space. SEA would leave a shortcut in the users' inbox and will retrieve the archived item when the shortcut is activated. Currently I am not doing that, but plan on short cutting items older than X years very soon. The SEA server is on a separate box, so the archive is NOT on the same physical drives. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving That's good to know. I've gotten approval for an archive system this summer and this is certainly one of my choices. Thanks From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender
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What kind of box is the SEA on? (Hardware/software?) I assume it is a dedicate server that sits close to Exchange? SQL server? Thx From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I highly recommend it. Price is better than just about anything else. Performance is good. Support has been excellent. To answer a couple of the other questions posted: RE: Storage: I have 900GB available for my archive. My Exchange store is 250GB. Currently my archive is using about 120GB (all the Exchange store was archived, plus I have about 5 months of active archiving). Everything is compressed, so space use is good in my opinion. You can have SEA move things from Exchange to the archive to reduce Exchange store space. SEA would leave a shortcut in the users' inbox and will retrieve the archived item when the shortcut is activated. Currently I am not doing that, but plan on short cutting items older than X years very soon. The SEA server is on a separate box, so the archive is NOT on the same physical drives. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving That's good to know. I've gotten approval for an archive system this summer and this is certainly one of my choices. Thanks From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you
RE: email archiving
Actually you can opt to use Journaling or not in SEA. There are also environmental considerations to consider, Direct Archving works well in smaller shops but for larger operations, we recommend Journaling instead for overhead reasons. Alex Alex Eckelberry CEO Sunbelt Software 33 N. Garden Avenue, Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] p: 727.562.0101 x220 f: 727-562-3402 w: www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ b: www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving SEA doesn't use Journaling. Direct Archiving eliminates need for Journaling SEA provides a unique Direct Archiving feature that enables archiving of emails immediately after they are received. Direct Archiving is a significant breakthrough in efficient email archiving which eliminates the need for the Exchange Journal mailbox. Immediate archiving onto storage media improves the performance of the Exchange server, helps to ensure legal compliance, and diminishes the necessity to apply scheduler, threshold and quota archiving jobs. From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Windows 2003 / SQL 2005 It is a quad-dual core 2GHZ with 4GB Ram It has a Raid 0+1 with 6 300GB SAS drives. It is in the same rack as the Exchange box. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving What kind of box is the SEA on? (Hardware/software?) I assume it is a dedicate server that sits close to Exchange? SQL server? Thx From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I highly recommend it. Price is better than just about anything else. Performance is good. Support has been excellent. To answer a couple of the other questions posted: RE: Storage: I have 900GB available for my archive. My Exchange store is 250GB. Currently my archive is using about 120GB (all the Exchange store was archived, plus I have about 5 months of active archiving). Everything is compressed, so space use is good in my opinion. You can have SEA move things from Exchange to the archive to reduce Exchange store space. SEA would leave a shortcut in the users' inbox and will retrieve the archived item when the shortcut is activated. Currently I am not doing that, but plan on short cutting items older than X years very soon. The SEA server is on a separate box, so the archive is NOT on the same physical drives. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving That's good to know. I've gotten approval for an archive system this summer and this is certainly one of my choices. Thanks From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system
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Is it dedicated to archiving? Meaning it is only running Sunbelt's Exchange Archiver? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Windows 2003 / SQL 2005 It is a quad-dual core 2GHZ with 4GB Ram It has a Raid 0+1 with 6 300GB SAS drives. It is in the same rack as the Exchange box. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving What kind of box is the SEA on? (Hardware/software?) I assume it is a dedicate server that sits close to Exchange? SQL server? Thx From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I highly recommend it. Price is better than just about anything else. Performance is good. Support has been excellent. To answer a couple of the other questions posted: RE: Storage: I have 900GB available for my archive. My Exchange store is 250GB. Currently my archive is using about 120GB (all the Exchange store was archived, plus I have about 5 months of active archiving). Everything is compressed, so space use is good in my opinion. You can have SEA move things from Exchange to the archive to reduce Exchange store space. SEA would leave a shortcut in the users' inbox and will retrieve the archived item when the shortcut is activated. Currently I am not doing that, but plan on short cutting items older than X years very soon. The SEA server is on a separate box, so the archive is NOT on the same physical drives. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving That's good to know. I've gotten approval for an archive system this summer and this is certainly one of my choices. Thanks From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state
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Yes. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Is it dedicated to archiving? Meaning it is only running Sunbelt's Exchange Archiver? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Windows 2003 / SQL 2005 It is a quad-dual core 2GHZ with 4GB Ram It has a Raid 0+1 with 6 300GB SAS drives. It is in the same rack as the Exchange box. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving What kind of box is the SEA on? (Hardware/software?) I assume it is a dedicate server that sits close to Exchange? SQL server? Thx From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I highly recommend it. Price is better than just about anything else. Performance is good. Support has been excellent. To answer a couple of the other questions posted: RE: Storage: I have 900GB available for my archive. My Exchange store is 250GB. Currently my archive is using about 120GB (all the Exchange store was archived, plus I have about 5 months of active archiving). Everything is compressed, so space use is good in my opinion. You can have SEA move things from Exchange to the archive to reduce Exchange store space. SEA would leave a shortcut in the users' inbox and will retrieve the archived item when the shortcut is activated. Currently I am not doing that, but plan on short cutting items older than X years very soon. The SEA server is on a separate box, so the archive is NOT on the same physical drives. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving That's good to know. I've gotten approval for an archive system this summer and this is certainly one of my choices. Thanks From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical
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Nice! Thanks for the info... I need to start investigating archiving as well. -Dave From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Yes. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Is it dedicated to archiving? Meaning it is only running Sunbelt's Exchange Archiver? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Windows 2003 / SQL 2005 It is a quad-dual core 2GHZ with 4GB Ram It has a Raid 0+1 with 6 300GB SAS drives. It is in the same rack as the Exchange box. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving What kind of box is the SEA on? (Hardware/software?) I assume it is a dedicate server that sits close to Exchange? SQL server? Thx From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I highly recommend it. Price is better than just about anything else. Performance is good. Support has been excellent. To answer a couple of the other questions posted: RE: Storage: I have 900GB available for my archive. My Exchange store is 250GB. Currently my archive is using about 120GB (all the Exchange store was archived, plus I have about 5 months of active archiving). Everything is compressed, so space use is good in my opinion. You can have SEA move things from Exchange to the archive to reduce Exchange store space. SEA would leave a shortcut in the users' inbox and will retrieve the archived item when the shortcut is activated. Currently I am not doing that, but plan on short cutting items older than X years very soon. The SEA server is on a separate box, so the archive is NOT on the same physical drives. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving That's good to know. I've gotten approval for an archive system this summer and this is certainly one of my choices. Thanks From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited
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Alex what is the cutoff for a small shop? 250, 500 mailboxes? From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Actually you can opt to use Journaling or not in SEA. There are also environmental considerations to consider, Direct Archving works well in smaller shops but for larger operations, we recommend Journaling instead for overhead reasons. Alex Alex Eckelberry CEO Sunbelt Software 33 N. Garden Avenue, Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] p: 727.562.0101 x220 f: 727-562-3402 w: www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ b: www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving SEA doesn't use Journaling. Direct Archiving eliminates need for Journaling SEA provides a unique Direct Archiving feature that enables archiving of emails immediately after they are received. Direct Archiving is a significant breakthrough in efficient email archiving which eliminates the need for the Exchange Journal mailbox. Immediate archiving onto storage media improves the performance of the Exchange server, helps to ensure legal compliance, and diminishes the necessity to apply scheduler, threshold and quota archiving jobs. From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error
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Although I am sure it is over kill for what it does. I could probably run something else on it, but I rather have it dedicated. I Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Yes. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Is it dedicated to archiving? Meaning it is only running Sunbelt's Exchange Archiver? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Windows 2003 / SQL 2005 It is a quad-dual core 2GHZ with 4GB Ram It has a Raid 0+1 with 6 300GB SAS drives. It is in the same rack as the Exchange box. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving What kind of box is the SEA on? (Hardware/software?) I assume it is a dedicate server that sits close to Exchange? SQL server? Thx From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I highly recommend it. Price is better than just about anything else. Performance is good. Support has been excellent. To answer a couple of the other questions posted: RE: Storage: I have 900GB available for my archive. My Exchange store is 250GB. Currently my archive is using about 120GB (all the Exchange store was archived, plus I have about 5 months of active archiving). Everything is compressed, so space use is good in my opinion. You can have SEA move things from Exchange to the archive to reduce Exchange store space. SEA would leave a shortcut in the users' inbox and will retrieve the archived item when the shortcut is activated. Currently I am not doing that, but plan on short cutting items older than X years very soon. The SEA server is on a separate box, so the archive is NOT on the same physical drives. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving That's good to know. I've gotten approval for an archive system this summer and this is certainly one of my choices. Thanks From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use
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How many Exchange servers, and how widely separated are they? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Just one Exchange server. (However I do have a replicate server using DoubleTake at another site) Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving How many Exchange servers, and how widely separated are they? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Ah. I'm looking at an archiving solution to take care of three servers, one each in the UK, US and Australia. That'lll prove interesting. We're currently using MJ to get all mail to a mailbox here, and (YUCK!) manually archiving to PSTs. It's painful, sinful, and a heinous waste of time and resources, along with being not useful in the event that we need to recover email. Thanks be to Chuthulu that we haven't yet run into a discovery motion, or anything like it. Kurt On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one Exchange server. (However I do have a replicate server using DoubleTake at another site) Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving How many Exchange servers, and how widely separated are they? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http
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If I am not mistaken... SEA will do that. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Ah. I'm looking at an archiving solution to take care of three servers, one each in the UK, US and Australia. That'lll prove interesting. We're currently using MJ to get all mail to a mailbox here, and (YUCK!) manually archiving to PSTs. It's painful, sinful, and a heinous waste of time and resources, along with being not useful in the event that we need to recover email. Thanks be to Chuthulu that we haven't yet run into a discovery motion, or anything like it. Kurt On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one Exchange server. (However I do have a replicate server using DoubleTake at another site) Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving How many Exchange servers, and how widely separated are they? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use
Re: email archiving
Hmmm, I get the impression that Bob likes SEA On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken... SEA will do that. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Ah. I'm looking at an archiving solution to take care of three servers, one each in the UK, US and Australia. That'lll prove interesting. We're currently using MJ to get all mail to a mailbox here, and (YUCK!) manually archiving to PSTs. It's painful, sinful, and a heinous waste of time and resources, along with being not useful in the event that we need to recover email. Thanks be to Chuthulu that we haven't yet run into a discovery motion, or anything like it. Kurt On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one Exchange server. (However I do have a replicate server using DoubleTake at another site) Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving How many Exchange servers, and how widely separated are they? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center
RE: email archiving
SEA = Shook in his underwear. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Hmmm, I get the impression that Bob likes SEA On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken... SEA will do that. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Ah. I'm looking at an archiving solution to take care of three servers, one each in the UK, US and Australia. That'lll prove interesting. We're currently using MJ to get all mail to a mailbox here, and (YUCK!) manually archiving to PSTs. It's painful, sinful, and a heinous waste of time and resources, along with being not useful in the event that we need to recover email. Thanks be to Chuthulu that we haven't yet run into a discovery motion, or anything like it. Kurt On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one Exchange server. (However I do have a replicate server using DoubleTake at another site) Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving How many Exchange servers, and how widely separated are they? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org to learn more
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I get the impression that Bob like SEA men :) j/k From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving SEA = Shook in his underwear. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Hmmm, I get the impression that Bob likes SEA On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken... SEA will do that. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Ah. I'm looking at an archiving solution to take care of three servers, one each in the UK, US and Australia. That'lll prove interesting. We're currently using MJ to get all mail to a mailbox here, and (YUCK!) manually archiving to PSTs. It's painful, sinful, and a heinous waste of time and resources, along with being not useful in the event that we need to recover email. Thanks be to Chuthulu that we haven't yet run into a discovery motion, or anything like it. Kurt On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one Exchange server. (However I do have a replicate server using DoubleTake at another site) Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving How many Exchange servers, and how widely separated are they? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551
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E, no SEA = Sherry E. Abercrombie (really, those are my initials) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SEA = Shook in his underwear. -- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:29 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: email archiving Hmmm, I get the impression that Bob likes SEA On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken... SEA will do that. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Ah. I'm looking at an archiving solution to take care of three servers, one each in the UK, US and Australia. That'lll prove interesting. We're currently using MJ to get all mail to a mailbox here, and (YUCK!) manually archiving to PSTs. It's painful, sinful, and a heinous waste of time and resources, along with being not useful in the event that we need to recover email. Thanks be to Chuthulu that we haven't yet run into a discovery motion, or anything like it. Kurt On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one Exchange server. (However I do have a replicate server using DoubleTake at another site) Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving How many Exchange servers, and how widely separated are they? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you
RE: email archiving
Is this where we hum Bob and Sherry, sitting in a tree... ? Seriously, though, almost all the Archive vendors will work in a geographically disparate solution set... it's just a question of how, and how well... The archiving topic keeps coming up, and it seems most people are missing the two important starting points: everyone needs different things out of an archive system - they are not all equal; you need to understand what you need the system to do before you try to pick it. I'm thinking about writing up something basic guidelines on Archiving 101... no vendor specific details, just some of the various ways it is implemented and considerations, from personal experience. Would that prove useful to the group? If so, and I actually find time to throw it together, would Michael or one of you guys with an actuall posting place/history be willing to commandeer/enhance it? From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving E, no SEA = Sherry E. Abercrombie (really, those are my initials) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SEA = Shook in his underwear. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Hmmm, I get the impression that Bob likes SEA On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken... SEA will do that. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: email archiving
Yes, that would be very useful and greatly appreciated! From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Is this where we hum Bob and Sherry, sitting in a tree... ? Seriously, though, almost all the Archive vendors will work in a geographically disparate solution set... it's just a question of how, and how well... The archiving topic keeps coming up, and it seems most people are missing the two important starting points: everyone needs different things out of an archive system - they are not all equal; you need to understand what you need the system to do before you try to pick it. I'm thinking about writing up something basic guidelines on Archiving 101... no vendor specific details, just some of the various ways it is implemented and considerations, from personal experience. Would that prove useful to the group? If so, and I actually find time to throw it together, would Michael or one of you guys with an actuall posting place/history be willing to commandeer/enhance it? From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving E, no SEA = Sherry E. Abercrombie (really, those are my initials) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SEA = Shook in his underwear. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Hmmm, I get the impression that Bob likes SEA On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken... SEA will do that. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: email archiving
Well, I for one would surely benefit from it, and appreciate the offer. I look forward to it. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Bingham, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this where we hum Bob and Sherry, sitting in a tree… ? Seriously, though, almost all the Archive vendors will work in a geographically disparate solution set… it's just a question of how, and how well… The archiving topic keeps coming up, and it seems most people are missing the two important starting points: everyone needs different things out of an archive system – they are not all equal; you need to understand what you need the system to do before you try to pick it. I'm thinking about writing up something basic guidelines on Archiving 101… no vendor specific details, just some of the various ways it is implemented and considerations, from personal experience. Would that prove useful to the group? If so, and I actually find time to throw it together, would Michael or one of you guys with an actuall posting place/history be willing to commandeer/enhance it? From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving E, no SEA = Sherry E. Abercrombie (really, those are my initials) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SEA = Shook in his underwear. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Hmmm, I get the impression that Bob likes SEA On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken... SEA will do that. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: email archiving
We have customers that are using direct archiving for a little more than 100 mailboxes without problems, but since the bottleneck is the Exchange Server, we do not suggest direct archiving for more than 50 mailboxes. Instead we prefer setting up jobs that run every couple of hours, which has the same effect. Or use journaling, which the product supports. HTH, Alex From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Alex what is the cutoff for a small shop? 250, 500 mailboxes? From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Actually you can opt to use Journaling or not in SEA. There are also environmental considerations to consider, Direct Archving works well in smaller shops but for larger operations, we recommend Journaling instead for overhead reasons. Alex Alex Eckelberry CEO Sunbelt Software 33 N. Garden Avenue, Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] p: 727.562.0101 x220 f: 727-562-3402 w: www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ b: www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving SEA doesn't use Journaling. Direct Archiving eliminates need for Journaling SEA provides a unique Direct Archiving feature that enables archiving of emails immediately after they are received. Direct Archiving is a significant breakthrough in efficient email archiving which eliminates the need for the Exchange Journal mailbox. Immediate archiving onto storage media improves the performance of the Exchange server, helps to ensure legal compliance, and diminishes the necessity to apply scheduler, threshold and quota archiving jobs. From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete
RE: email archiving
Hey, be nice to customers of Sunbelt! They pay for this list! ;-) Alex From: Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I get the impression that Bob like SEA men :) j/k From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving SEA = Shook in his underwear. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Hmmm, I get the impression that Bob likes SEA On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken... SEA will do that. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving Ah. I'm looking at an archiving solution to take care of three servers, one each in the UK, US and Australia. That'lll prove interesting. We're currently using MJ to get all mail to a mailbox here, and (YUCK!) manually archiving to PSTs. It's painful, sinful, and a heinous waste of time and resources, along with being not useful in the event that we need to recover email. Thanks be to Chuthulu that we haven't yet run into a discovery motion, or anything like it. Kurt On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one Exchange server. (However I do have a replicate server using DoubleTake at another site) Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: email archiving How many Exchange servers, and how widely separated are they? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Journaling is NOT enabled. I am using SEA's Direct Archive and see very little (if any)impact on our Exchange server. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250
RE: email archiving
I am running Direct Archive with over 150 with no issues on the Exchange side. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving We have customers that are using direct archiving for a little more than 100 mailboxes without problems, but since the bottleneck is the Exchange Server, we do not suggest direct archiving for more than 50 mailboxes. Instead we prefer setting up jobs that run every couple of hours, which has the same effect. Or use journaling, which the product supports. HTH, Alex From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Alex what is the cutoff for a small shop? 250, 500 mailboxes? From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Actually you can opt to use Journaling or not in SEA. There are also environmental considerations to consider, Direct Archving works well in smaller shops but for larger operations, we recommend Journaling instead for overhead reasons. Alex Alex Eckelberry CEO Sunbelt Software 33 N. Garden Avenue, Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] p: 727.562.0101 x220 f: 727-562-3402 w: www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ b: www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving SEA doesn't use Journaling. Direct Archiving eliminates need for Journaling SEA provides a unique Direct Archiving feature that enables archiving of emails immediately after they are received. Direct Archiving is a significant breakthrough in efficient email archiving which eliminates the need for the Exchange Journal mailbox. Immediate archiving onto storage media improves the performance of the Exchange server, helps to ensure legal compliance, and diminishes the necessity to apply scheduler, threshold and quota archiving jobs. From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving Bob are you running it with journaling turned off? From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I am using SEA and am very happy with it. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: email archiving I didn't think there were any specific regs concerning HIPAA and email retention. Anyone on the list using our hosts product? Sunbelt Archiver. They do mention that it doesn't require journaling turned on. From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: email archiving I'm sure this topic has come up before so excuse me it this is old hat. We are looking at an email archive solution from an outside vendor. I don't know much about it except they put an appliance on our network and turn Journaling on on our Exchange server, and it's wildly expensive. Can someone give me an in-a-nutshell explanation of how this works? Is this the best solution for our money? Any alternatives? We are a non-profit behavioral health facility trying to stay HIPAA compliant. We have a 2003 Domain w/Exchange 2003. Approx 250 mailboxes and right now my total mail store is 30 gigs (priv and pub). Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Lee Mental Health Center 239-791-1551 Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally
