[FairfieldLife] Re: Wolds are Words. Words as Symbolic Representations. Words as Samsakara Trigg

2007-10-19 Thread new . morning
I am just guessing -- this would not be an appropriate post for WNC?

The sugar might spill from the Sterling silver tea set?

Samskara word triggers,the distinction of words and essence not relevant?

OMG. OMG! What has thou Wrought? (I mean rot -- god loves word ironies
and games)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

:

 Not for delicate nervous systems

 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunt
 
 That which is closest to the Truth, last longest. 
 
 Sims -- 1966-1982
 
 Cunt 1325 -- still going strong
 
 more below (chuckle, grin)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Cunt is an English language vulgarism most commonly used in reference
 to vulva or vagina and, more generally, the pubis, from the mons
 veneris to the perineum.[1] The earliest citation of this usage, circa
 1230, is in the Oxford English Dictionary, referring to the London
 street known as Gropecunt Lane; as the word cunt has been
 incorporated into the colloquial and technical speech of nautical and
 other occupational traditions.
 
 Generally, cunt is considered an obscene word, and therefore greatly
 offensive, although, as with all verbal profanities, some speakers
 regard it as merely informal or even a term of endearment. Calling
 someone a cunt is generally considered impolite at best, and often as
 extremely offensive, though this varies between countries and social
 groupings.
 
 Cunt is sometimes used as a nonspecific derogatory epithet in
 referring to either sex (in Australian English, specifically male; the
 Macquarie Dictionary defines cunt as a despicable man). Its usage as
 vulgar insult is, however, a relatively recent development, the
 earliest citation dating from 1929.[citation needed].Use of cunt as
 term of abuse for a woman is a 20th/21st century meaning. From
 Frederic Manning's 1929 The Middle Parts of Fortune:
 
 What's the cunt want to come down 'ere buggering us about for, 'aven't
 we done enough bloody work in th' week?
 
 This word for the female genitalia dates back to the Middle English
 period, c.1325. Its exact origin is unknown, but is related to the Old
 Norse kunta, a word with cognates in several other Germanic languages.
 From the Proverbs of Hendyng, a manuscript from sometime before 1325:
 
 #540;eue þi cunte to cunnig and craue affetir wedding. (Give your cunt
 wisely and beg after the wedding.)
 
 The term also has various other uses (see usage below).
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Wolds are Words. Words as Symbolic Representations. Words as Samsakara Trigg

2007-10-19 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I just transcended on the mantra Cunt.
 
 Should I have added OM or Namah to like, make it more effective?
 
 I did add 25. Sunk like a rock. The universe expanded, exploded, 
and
 all was ONE. I guess cunt 25 is IT. 
 
 (Sorry for the embollism Edg. But you knew it was inevitable. To 
get
 so 250/120 BP over words.)
 
 

I don't believe the semantic meanings of words are that
important. The Finnish word for 'cunt', 'vittu', seems
to be a phonetic adaptation, or whatever, of Swedish 'fitta',
which originally is said to have meant e.g. 'a wet meadow'.






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/19/07 7:38:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Who on  God's earth is Naomi Wolf? Wasn't she the one that dressed Al
 Gore in  
  earth tones?
 
 You wanted evidence the country is  growing more fascist. Read the
 article, asshole.
 
  
 
 I did. And it's pure emotionalism and hyperbole,  fool!

It's based on facts, bwana. Are you the classic less than  bright
redneck? Haven't you noticed your boy George is at 24% approval  now?
He's tied with Nixon when Nixon walked out of the White House in  shame.




Based on facts? Prove it! Are you the kind of fool that believes everything  
you read, especially from a fellow left winger ? What are Reid and Pelosi 
doing  about it? Twenty-four percent, who's poll? Last I saw it was in the  
thirties. How about that 11% approval rating for that Democrat congress? Don't  
count on Bush walking out any time soon. He will be a pain in the butt to  
Reid/Pelosi till then.



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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 9:04 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

 

While I am glad for the posting limits, I think this latest rule,
essentially requiring people to play nice with each other, is dumb and
demeaning to everyone. It basically reduces Rick to the position of having
to beseech people to mind their manners, and reduces everyone else to either
whiners or flamers Or, in some cases, both. I hope it soon goes the way of
teflon.

Sal

Because I’m too caught up in work and other matters to read most of the
posts, it seems that little flame wars erupt and subside without my
knowledge. If some serious and prolong abuse occurred and were brought to my
attention, I’d deal with it, as long as we have a consensus that we want to
restrict such behavior. We seemed to have such a consensus when we first
established the rule, although it certainly wasn’t unanimous, and we can
review and revise it any time we like. It seems to me that the intention to
enforce some sort of civility has made the group more civil, without my
having to do much enforcing. And I don’t think it has dumbed us down or
suppressed creativity.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-19 Thread t3rinity
Curtis, this was one of your excellent posts, which at the time I ahd
neglected. Today is Friday, and I still have a few posts free ;-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think where I differ with T is that he seems to believe that his
 experience of the  was in a category beyond thinking.
 
 T  I intuitively knew that here is no wrong that I can ever do,
  and I had a sense of universal love towards everybody and everything.

There are experiences where thinking is stopped,and there is simply
witnessing of a force. Thoughts are literally drained off your brain.
This is another experience, as the one quoted above, where I claerly
was reflecting, while having the experience. There was some 'insight'
here, some intuition together with the experience in the bar (and
coming from it) They were different years towns etc.
 
 I have had my share of revelations in this life and I understand how
 compelling they can feel.  I don't doubt that this insight is useful
 to T, what I doubt is that it is of a qualitatively different
 character than my own insights.  Here T sums up what he sees as my
 perspective:

I would never judge your insights or intuitions. I just explain mine,
and why I go for it.
 
 TCurtis is never tired to point out that he regards the 
same mystical experiences many of us share in a different 
way and strips them of any religious meaning they could 
have. In fact he tries to understand them rationally 
only, as I believe. Thus he places ratio[nality] highest, 
and I always understood this to mean a place where 
intellect is 'in control'
 
 
 I only disagree with this aspect of the characterization, that my
 insights are gained in this way: T: he tries to understand them
 rationallyonly,

Okay, Curtis, I could not have known how this worked for you. I
appreciate that there is more to it than pure intellectual reflection.
 What that 'more' is, one has to see, because due to the very nature
of atheism it couldn't have been a ehm revelation of any sort, like a
intuition coming from a higher, or more knowing source I assume.

In fact, as you explain, as atheism is very much something defined
through a negative, it can only be a reaction to this, the falling
away of something, which you must feel is oppressing, thus a liberation. 

Yesterday in TV they interviewed this man (Richard Dawkins) who almost
religiously endorses atheism, he just wrote a bestseller. The
commentators said more or less that his viewpoints and argumentation
wasn't really applying to Europe, as there are many  more atheists
here than in the USA. If you take East-Germany, the majority are
actually atheists, and the people there, who are believers, did so
against he ideological oppression of the former communist government,
who had postulated a 'dialectic materialism' as a states-ideology. I
would therefore categorize your liberating experience as a reflection
of your own religious history, within the context of the type of
religion followed in the USA. It certainly also is a reflection on
Christianity a a whole, and whenever you or Turq speak of Theism, you
mention 'a Creator God', yet this is in my oppinion not a defining
factor of religion, or the kind of theism I persue.

In fact Advaita, which has been my starting point, and still is
defining very much what I believe, a personal God is admitted, as real
as we are, but he is not a creator, as there is no creation at all,
the universe is just a projection, a reflection within Maya,
illussion. God, Ishwara, is still subject to Maya! That's the
bottom-line. There are various other theologies especially with the
Vaishnavas, who postulate a Creator-God, but very different than in
Christianity. In Dvaita, eg. God is not the Creator, the universe and
the souls are crated by samsara and karma, very much like in
Buddhism,God is there rather for liberation instead of creation.
Visishtadvaita claims God to be the 'efficient and material' cause of
the universe. So its a Creator God, but we are all parts of God, like
his limbs!

So there are many different ways of looking at it, we in the west are
usually just exposed to ONE mode of Theism, and if that comes along
with oppressive thoughts and ideologies, like the threat of eternal
condemnation, its quite understandable, that being free of these
concepts must be a liberation. But what if you had never believed in
any of these anyway, like me, who was not religiously raised? I didn't
have all this baggage with me, I rather freely embraced spirituality,
more like exploring it and going by my own experience only.


 This is a common misunderstanding about how certain people come to
 atheism.  By limiting their faculties to one aspect of our cognitive
 and intuitive processes. It makes dismissing the insight much easier
 if I am only using one aspect of our ability to understand and all the
 deists are using their whole heart and mind.  The truth for me is that
 my 

[FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 10/19/07 6:32:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
   Please explain how the country is 
  growing more and more Fascist day  by day.
 
 Won't Back Down
 By: Naomi Wolf
 
 
 
 Who on God's earth is Naomi Wolf? Wasn't she the one that dressed 
Al Gore  in 
 earth tones?




...famous for dressing Al Gore in Earth Tones and for channelling a 
13-year-old boy who may or may not have been Jesus...




 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Oct 19, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
 
  Can't keep track of who's in and who's out here--that fascist
  Archer must be practicing mind-control again.
 
  This notion of Rick Archer as rules-wielding fascist is utterly
  ridiculous. It was with great reluctance that he even put in place
  FFL's posting limits, and in all the years, only one person has
  ever
  been permanently banned from FFL. The Wed Night Yahoo Group is
  supposed to be an extension of the group that meets in Tom T's
  livingroom, and the biggest problem is that laissez-faire Rick
  doesn't run the Yahoo Group like Tom runs his livingroom.
 
 Alex,
 I was *joking,* for crying out loud--do I really have to put those 
 silly little smiley faces every time I want to make a funny?

I realized you were joking. I just wanted to express my opinion about
the notion of Rick as fascist, and I just used your post as a
convenient jumping off point. I apologize for not having indicated that. 
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 In a message dated 10/19/07 11:36:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Congress  is getting a low rating, almost as low as Dick Cheney because 
 the cowards  (yes Democrats too) are not doing what the American people 
 want and  impeaching Bush and Cheney.


 Show me a poll that reflects this statement.
That's a cop out.  Instead why don't you find some articles that refute 
my statement.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Wolds are Words. Words as Symbolic Representations. Words as Samsakara Trigg

2007-10-19 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 And fittstim ?


Flock of cvnts? A Swedish anthology of feminist texts?

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fittstim_%28bok%29




[FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
steve.sundur@ 
 wrote:
snip
  Lurk:
  I will make you a bet.  How long would Lawson English last on any 
  forum posting 30-40 messages a day? 
 
 Or Judith in consort radiating her lesbionic pro-TM vibe
 endlessly. It's like one of those movies where you just
 can't kill the robot.
 
 It is these two who wholeheartedly hijacked this very group for 
 months (years?). One is still just chomping at the bit waiting
 till she can vent her vitriolic Jihad here come Saturday. (or 
 at least vent her swollen spleen on Barry). If both of these
 trolls had been ousted long, long ago by a savvy moderator,
 none of us would be STILL left suffering in their wake.
 
 It just goes to show what impotent and unrealistic wimps 
 vegetarians can become.
 
 We just lucked out that Lawson headed for the hills when his 
obsessive knee-jerk was 
 curtailed via digital decision.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread kaladevi93
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I 
 bet we can drum up some more folks to join or at least lurkers who 
  haven't ever posted who don't like these rules to *outnumber* the 
  so-called consensus are return this group to open discussion. 
 
 Lurk:
 I will make you a bet.  How long would Lawson English last on any 
 forum posting 30-40 messages a day? 

Or Judith in consort radiating her lesbionic pro-TM vibe endlessly. It's like 
one of those 
movies where you just can't kill the robot.

It is these two who wholeheartedly hijacked this very group for months 
(years?). One is still 
just chomping at the bit waiting till she can vent her vitriolic Jihad here 
come Saturday. (or 
at least vent her swollen spleen on Barry). If both of these trolls had been 
ousted long, 
long ago by a savvy moderator, none of us would be STILL left suffering in 
their wake.

It just goes to show what impotent and unrealistic wimps vegetarians can become.

We just lucked out that Lawson headed for the hills when his obsessive 
knee-jerk was 
curtailed via digital decision.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread Bhairitu
lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I 
 bet we can drum up some more folks to join or at least lurkers who 
   
 haven't ever posted who don't like these rules to *outnumber* the 
 so-called consensus are return this group to open discussion. 
 

 Lurk:
 I will make you a bet.  How long would Lawson English last on any 
 forum posting 30-40 messages a day?  What would be patience of a group 
 when a personal feud (on any given subject) can go on days at a time 
 and last 50 posts or more - on just that subject.  
   
Yes, but most moderators would have booted him if the group found him 
annoying.  But most people on groups just ignore people like that.  When 
they don't get read and replied to, they go away.
 B:
 As I have said *before* this is the *only* group I know of on Yahoo 
 that has *posting limits!*  

 Lurk:
 So it's a bad idea, just on that basis?
   
I really don't think many people would find it to be a cutting edge idea.
 B:
 There are groups that are highly moderated usually 
   
 because they are of very narrow purpose such as software support 
 groups.  Many of the mundane (non yoga related) groups I'm on 
 
 behave  more enlightened, balanced and sane than people here.  I'm 
 sure others  have found this true too.

   Doesn't speak well for TM does it?

 Lurk:
 Big judgement.  I think it does speak well for this group.  Ever been 
 to a quiet party?  It's pretty boring.  I'd rather have a active group 
 dynamic that DOES require a little imposed discipline - if thats what 
 it takes to keep things from degrading into pettiness.
Supposedly with TM that discipline is supposed to come from within.  So 
what you are saying is it doesn't.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I 
bet we can drum up some more folks to join or at least lurkers who 
 haven't ever posted who don't like these rules to *outnumber* the 
 so-called consensus are return this group to open discussion. 

Lurk:
I will make you a bet.  How long would Lawson English last on any 
forum posting 30-40 messages a day?  What would be patience of a group 
when a personal feud (on any given subject) can go on days at a time 
and last 50 posts or more - on just that subject.  

B:
As I have said *before* this is the *only* group I know of on Yahoo 
that has *posting limits!*  

Lurk:
So it's a bad idea, just on that basis?

B:
There are groups that are highly moderated usually 
 because they are of very narrow purpose such as software support 
 groups.  Many of the mundane (non yoga related) groups I'm on 
behave  more enlightened, balanced and sane than people here.  I'm 
sure others  have found this true too.

  Doesn't speak well for TM does it?

Lurk:
Big judgement.  I think it does speak well for this group.  Ever been 
to a quiet party?  It's pretty boring.  I'd rather have a active group 
dynamic that DOES require a little imposed discipline - if thats what 
it takes to keep things from degrading into pettiness.




[FairfieldLife] America Is Going the Way of Argentina

2007-10-19 Thread Bhairitu
I've been saying that for years and here's an article that underscores 
my point:
http://www.harvardmagazine.com/2007/07/debtor-nation.html



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/19/07 4:42:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED],  MDi

 
 In a message dated  10/19/07 8:40:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
 
  Last I saw it was in the thirties. How about  that 11% approval
 rating for that Democrat congress? 
 
  Nope. Congress is rated higher than boy George at 27%: 
 
  
 
 
 Try reading the polls you site.Bush's job approval  rating fell to 24 
 percent from last month's record low for a Zogby  poll of 29 percent.

Uh, huh ...how does that differ from what I  said?

A paltry 11 
 percent gave Congress a positive grade,  tying last month's record
low. So 
 Congress' positive poll numbers  are a fraction of Bush's.

Apparently you're either blind or mentally  retarded:

CBS Poll dated - 10/12-16/07 - Approval of Congress at  27%




Evidently you can't read or you refuse to accept the Zogby poll results  
which stated that A Paltry 11% gave Congress a positive grade, tying last  
month's record low. That line was right under the line giving Bush a 24%  
approval 
rating. So what are you doing, shopping your poll numbers? Zogby gives  Bush 
lower numbers so you quote it but CBS gives Congress higher numbers so you  use 
that. You might want to read the entire Zogby Poll over and you will see  
Congress getting 11% approval rating, two months in a  row!



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/19/07 3:52:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In a  message dated 10/19/07 11:36:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   writes:

 Congress is getting a low rating, almost as low as  Dick Cheney because 
 the cowards (yes Democrats too) are not doing  what the American people 
 want and impeaching Bush and  Cheney.


 Show me a poll that reflects this  statement.
That's a cop out. Instead why don't you find some articles that  refute 
my statement.



Bwahhahahahahaah. No, your's is the cop out. You make a claim. I'm just  
saying,*back it up*.



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[FairfieldLife] Microbial Creativity, Cyborg Insects, New Life Forms from Chemicals -- Is Baba's Brave New World Fresh On Our Horizon?

2007-10-19 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
*Microbial Creativity, Cyborg Insects, New Life Forms from Chemicals -- Is
Baba's Brave New World Fresh On Our Horizon?*

Even in the capable hands of saints, we still need to be careful with these
things.  Today, are these even in capable hands, in service to the best
interests of life on Earth?

Check out these items:

U.S. labs mishandling deadly germs

American laboratories handling the world's deadliest germs and toxins have
experienced more than 100 accidents and missing shipments since 2003, and
the number is increasing steadily as more labs across the country are
approved to do the work.

*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071002...andling_germs_3*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071002/ap_on_he_me/mishandling_germs_3

DARPA hatches plan for insect cyborgs to fly reconnaissance

Hybrid-Insect MEMS--a program hatched earlier this year at the Defense
Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa)--aims to harness insects the way
horses were harnessed by the cavalry.

*http://eetimes.com/news/latest/show...cleID=202200707
*http://eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=DCOQXJM2YHC4UQSNDLSCKHA?articleID=202200707

I am creating artificial life

Craig Venter, the controversial DNA researcher involved in the race to
decipher the human genetic code, has built a synthetic chromosome out of
laboratory chemicals and is poised to announce the creation of the first new
artificial life form on Earth.

*http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2...s.climatechange*http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2...s.climatechange


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/19/07 4:59:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Try  reading the polls you site.Bush's job approval rating fell to 24 
  percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent.
A  paltry 11 
 percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's  record 
low. So 
 Congress' positive poll numbers are a fraction of  Bush's.
 
 
 
 I should have added according to  Zogby.

Yes. You should have.



Why? Do you not accept Zogby's polling results when it comes to Congress,  
but accept the results when they regard Bush's ?



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 19, 2007, at 7:20 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

 It just goes to show what impotent and unrealistic wimps vegetarians 
can become.


Hey, I eat fish and chicken and I had a turkey sandwich today. (Petit 
Paris)


Did you do the appropriate amount of mood-making afterwards to make up 
for enjoying that turkey sandwich, Rick?


Sal


[FairfieldLife] Call for Articles

2007-10-19 Thread PROUT News
**
**


This is a call for articles covering most anything related to dharma
-- articles written for general audiences or specialty interest groups.
PROUT, yoga, social justice, economics, politics, true love, human evolution
-- anything related to the progressive and dharmic evolution of humanity and
all life on Earth and beyond.

I have access to many venues for presenting your articles, written for
general audiences or special interest groups, such as green and sustainable
living or alternative economics or politics, for example, yet who are not
margiis.  Send your articles along with sources and credits due to the
author(s) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the title *article submital* in the
subject line.  Articles may be edited to conform to audiences and publishing
parameters.

 *What we want is the rule of rationality.  Human
society is one and indivisible...Only due to
dogmas, people think in terms of heterogeneity.
There is only one ideology in the world which is
not only all-embracing but also all-pervading.*

*Both the problems and their solutions have been
pointed out. Now it is our bounden duty to carry
this message to all nooks and corners of this
world.  The wind is blowing in our favour.  We
should carry the message to each and every
particle of marrow of this living world.*


[FairfieldLife] Re: Key to Peace in Iraq

2007-10-19 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 10/17/07 10:07:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 In a  message dated 10/17/07 2:29:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
  jr_esq@  writes:
  
  The United States should NOT take on the role of  being the 
 benefactor 
  for the government of Iraq ad infinitum. The  USA should let the 
 Iraqi 
  develop their own destiny as an  independent nation. Peace needs 
to 
  nurtured from the hearts of the  Iraqis by themselves and at 
their 
 own 
  terms. This is the only way  stability in Iraq can be maintained. 
 As 
  such, the US should get  out of Iraq as soon as possible.
  
  
  
  Right,  survival of the fittest! 
  
 
 No, it is the survival of the  smartest that prevails...which is 
 unfortunate for Bush and his republican  followers.
 
 OffWorld
 
 
 
 
 Sorry Off, but in the case of Iraq, it will be survival of the 
fittest once  
 coalition forces leave, should that be before reconciliation takes 
place. 
 Unless  of course, your position of the *smartest* is a minority 
that can Kowtow 
 to a  more powerful adversary with a bigger sword,  convincingly. 

You're not getting it yet Dixon. You are in a quagmire. That means 
there is no getting out. You, the non-smart, are stuck there, and are 
at the mercy of the smarter...ie. the Iranians, Syrians, and the 
Russians. You are in a black hole quagmire and are trapped. Now the 
Iranians will control your future and the Russians will control them. 
That is why you, 'the fittest' have completely lost, to the smarter 
ones. However, fortunately there are those smarter than them, and 
even they will not prevail. Your big guns won't help you now. You 
will be sucked dry of all your money and ego. You can already feel it 
sucking away. Warmongers lose. You loose.

Intelligence awakes now. Adios old school.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Ramana's out of body experience

2007-10-19 Thread matrixmonitor



About a year after his first meeting with Sri Bhagavan, Ganapathi 
Muni experienced a remarkable outflow of his Grace. While he was 
sitting in meditation in the temple Tiruvottiyur he felt distracted 
and longed intensely for the presence and guidance of the Bhagavan. 
At that moment Sri Ramana entered the temple. Ganapati prostrated 
himself before him and, as he was about to rise, he felt the 
Maharshi's hand upon his head and a terrifically vital force coursing 
through his body from the touch; so that he also received Grace by 
touch from the Master. Speaking about this incident in later years, 
Sri Ramana Maharshi said:





One day, some years ago, I was lying down and awake when I 
distinctly felt my body rise higher and higher. I could see the 
physical objects below growing smaller and smaller until they 
disappeared and all around me was a limitless expanse of dazzling 
light. After some time I felt the body slowly descend and the 
physical objects below began to appear. I was so fully aware of this 
incident that I finally concluded that it must be by such means that 
Sages using the powers of Siddhis travel over vast distances in a 
short time and appear and disappear in such a mysterious manner. 
While the body thus descended to the ground it occurred to me that I 
was at Tiruvottiyur though I had never seen the place before. I found 
myself on a highroad and walked along it. At some distance from the 
roadside was a temple of Ganapati and I entered it.
at
http://www.tinyurl.com/ysxstr









[FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
  Or Judith in consort radiating her lesbionic pro-TM vibe
  endlessly. It's like one of those movies where you just
  can't kill the robot.

Lesbionic  WTF Kaladevi?  Calling Judy Lesbionic is flaming as
well as dishonest. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
 steve.sundur@ 
  wrote:
 snip
   Lurk:
   I will make you a bet.  How long would Lawson English last on any 
   forum posting 30-40 messages a day? 
  
  Or Judith in consort radiating her lesbionic pro-TM vibe
  endlessly. It's like one of those movies where you just
  can't kill the robot.
  
  It is these two who wholeheartedly hijacked this very group for 
  months (years?). One is still just chomping at the bit waiting
  till she can vent her vitriolic Jihad here come Saturday. (or 
  at least vent her swollen spleen on Barry). If both of these
  trolls had been ousted long, long ago by a savvy moderator,
  none of us would be STILL left suffering in their wake.
  
  It just goes to show what impotent and unrealistic wimps 
  vegetarians can become.
  
  We just lucked out that Lawson headed for the hills when his 
 obsessive knee-jerk was 
  curtailed via digital decision.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 10/19/07 8:40:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Last I saw it was in the thirties. How about that 11% approval
 rating for  that Democrat congress? 
 
 Nope. Congress is rated higher than boy George  at 27%: 
 
 
 
 
 Try reading the polls you site.Bush's job approval rating fell to 24  
 percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent.


Uh, huh ...how does that differ from what I said?


 A paltry 11  
 percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's record
low.  So  
 Congress' positive poll numbers are a fraction of  Bush's.


Apparently you're either blind or mentally retarded:

CBS Poll dated - 10/12-16/07 - Approval of Congress at 27%

SOURCE [as I posted previously]:  http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm










[FairfieldLife] Wisdom of Baba Faquir Chand

2007-10-19 Thread matrixmonitor

Nevertheless, in a nearly Zen-like epiphany... 

Faqir Chand was NOT satisfied with these attainments and sought for 
something higher and more permanent. 

Eventually Faqir realized that no matter how subtle or blissful a 
meditation experience may be, it did not in and of itself constitute 
the ultimate in spiritual realization. 

Rather, the ultimate truth was that no experience could capture or 
contain the transcendental mystery of Being. In the highest stages of 
development man does not develop a keen sense of omniscience, but a 
radical and irrevocable understanding of unknowingness. 

at:
http://www.tinyurl.com/4clwc





[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-19 Thread george_deforest

all the jyotishees are so inclined, because of the present
transit of Mercury.

this msg from Team CyberAstro (www.cyberastro.com)
summarizes it well:

Mercury is the planet of intelligence and exchange/transaction 
in our daily life. During retrograde motion, Mercury will cause
confusion, rumour galore, and communication bottlenecks in our life.
 
In mundane astrology, retrograde Mercury reverses the present trend 
in the stock market. So, watch out! 

Take a little more care on house keeping activities on your 
computer and mail systems. 

Of course effect of retrograde Mercury will be different 
on different people based on their individual charts 
and specific house and life aspects that Libra represents 
in the individual chart.

also, Fairfielder David Hawthorne has this to say:
Mercury transits Libra from 12:39 to 04:43
and moves away from the aspects of Saturn and Rahu. 
Mercury is combust until Oct. 29, and retrograde until Nov. 1
Be careful with your stocks, business and communications.

http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=blogcategoryid=104Itemid=98

 docu1000 wrote:

 Below is a free alert from Mahendra Sharma (link
 http://www.mahendraprophecy.com/LatestFlash.asp?Id=334Page=3%20
 I wonder what Maharishi Jyotish predicts.
 
 Dear Member,
 We are approaching toward worst volatile period like 1929 and 1987.
 I advise please stay alert and just watch market. 
 Hold cash as many will fall with fall of commodities, 
 stock market and hot bubble currencies.
 This will happen in the next two weeks.
 
 As predicted today all commodities will remain very volatile.
 Trading up can move down during the day 
 (This apply for metals, oil and grains).
 
 I mentioned in newsletter that today is the day to sell 
 Canadian and Australian dollar and yes once again I confirm that.
 Currently December contract are trading at $1.0243 and 0.9009.
 Dollar index trading stable and it should trade positive.
 
 I predicted major crash in all stock market from 18 October 
 so watch this date closely and plan your trades accordingly. 
 There will blood-bath in Asian market and may few of the market
 will close down for few days so watch carefully. 
 Get out from all position before 18 October including metals,
 Uranium and Alternative energy stocks.
 Coffee and cotton to remain positive.
 Thanks  God Bless
 Mahendra Sharma, 11 Oct 5.50AM





[FairfieldLife] Meditation and Faith

2007-10-19 Thread george_deforest
i found this Buddist quote to be inspiring, so i wanted to share it:
[my commentary added, in brackets]


An act of meditation is actually an act of faith -- 
of faith in your spirit, in your own potential. 
Faith is the basis of meditation. 

Not of faith in something outside you -- a metaphysical buddha, 
an unattainable ideal, or someone else's words. [gurus, bibles]

The faith is in yourself, in your own buddha-nature. [Atman]
You too can be a buddha, an awakened being that lives and 
responds in a wise, creative, and compassionate way.

-Martine Batchelor, Meditation for Life

Copyright Wisdom Publications 2001. Reprinted from 
Daily Wisdom: 365 Buddhist Inspirations, 
edited by Josh Bartok, 
with permission of Wisdom Publications, 
199 Elm St., Somerville MA 02144 U.S.A, 
www.wisdompubs.org





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-19 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote:
 Bhairitu wrote:
   
 Don't feed the troll. Don't take mantra knowledge 
 from a troll. Enough said.

 
 Fuck you, Mr. Bharat2 - when you unsubscribe to ComCast
 get back to us. Is it alright with you, Sir, if I dialog 
 with Bill, for just 1 minute, without you butting in
 with your surly personal attacks? 

 Now we know who is the real troll around here.
   
   
 You would have to be both deaf and blind to not 
 know bij mantras growing up in India. :)

 
 So, what then, is the big secret, and why are you 
 attempting to make us believe that you've got some
 secret knowledge of magic words and phareses. Growing
 up in India anyone would know that you are a pretender,
 and that all you are really doing is waving your hands 
 around over a fire and snaping your fingers. And,
 for what purpose? 

 NEW YORK - Comcast Corp. actively interferes with 
 attempts by some of its high-speed Internet subscribers 
 to share files online, a move that runs counter to the 
 tradition of treating all types of Net traffic equally.

 Full story:

 'Comcast blocks some Internet traffic' 
 By Peter Svensen
 http://tinyurl.com/2aa3tr
Where did I say *you* were a troll?  But if the shoe fits then wear it. :)

Note my email address.  It is the *other* NWO company ATT.   So far 
they aren't blocking what rare P2P files I download *which* are BTW 
totally legal.  They are often ISO files for Linux, some video and music 
files distributed by the authors that way.   That's why Comcast is very 
lame doing this because there *are* companies including film studios 
using P2P as a low cost way to distribute even DRM'd stuff. You can use 
DixX's DRM this way as once downloaded DivX's software will download 
with your authorization code a small section of the file that makes it 
playable.  That's why they can even publish the DRM code but it is of no 
use for a hacker.  Too bad Microsoft, Apple and other MPAA companies 
engineers aren't that bright.  :)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Or Judith in consort radiating her lesbionic pro-TM vibe
   endlessly. It's like one of those movies where you just
   can't kill the robot.
 
 Lesbionic  WTF Kaladevi?  Calling Judy 

Lesbionic 
not that there is anything wrong with that


is flaming as
 well as dishonest. 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
  steve.sundur@ 
   wrote:
  snip
Lurk:
I will make you a bet.  How long would Lawson English last on any 
forum posting 30-40 messages a day? 
   
   Or Judith in consort radiating her lesbionic pro-TM vibe
   endlessly. It's like one of those movies where you just
   can't kill the robot.
   
   It is these two who wholeheartedly hijacked this very group for 
   months (years?). One is still just chomping at the bit waiting
   till she can vent her vitriolic Jihad here come Saturday. (or 
   at least vent her swollen spleen on Barry). If both of these
   trolls had been ousted long, long ago by a savvy moderator,
   none of us would be STILL left suffering in their wake.
   
   It just goes to show what impotent and unrealistic wimps 
   vegetarians can become.
   
   We just lucked out that Lawson headed for the hills when his 
  obsessive knee-jerk was 
   curtailed via digital decision.
  
 





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of kaladevi93
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 7:00 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

 

It is these two who wholeheartedly hijacked this very group for months
(years?). One is still 
just chomping at the bit waiting till she can vent her vitriolic Jihad here
come Saturday. (or 
at least vent her swollen spleen on Barry). If both of these trolls had been
ousted long, 
long ago by a savvy moderator, none of us would be STILL left suffering in
their wake.

It just goes to show what impotent and unrealistic wimps vegetarians can
become.

Hey, I eat fish and chicken and I had a turkey sandwich today. (Petit Paris)


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[FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 10/19/07 11:14:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
 In a message dated 10/19/07 8:40:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] a messag
 
   Last I saw it was in the thirties. How about that 11% approval
 rating for  that Democrat congress? 
 
 Nope. Congress is rated higher than boy  George at 27%: 
 
 
 
 
 Try reading the polls you site.Bush's job approval rating fell to 24  
 percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent.
A paltry  11 
 percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's record 
low.  So 
 Congress' positive poll numbers are a fraction of  Bush's.
 
 
 
 I should have added according to Zogby.


Yes. You should have.







[FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
biosoundbill wrote:
 Richard are you saying that the TM mantras are 
 not Tantric Bija Mantras?
 
Bill - The so-called TM bija mantras are just common 
everyday words from the Sanskrit dictionary. They can 
be found in almost any standard Sanskrit lexicon. For 
example, Ram, Sri, Nama...nothing esoteric. 

In contrast, Buddhist Tantric bijas are all esoteric - 
sounds that have no semantic meaning. Marshy is not 
a Tantric Yogi, therefore he would be knowing nothing 
about any esoteric bijas. He may or may not have been 
instructed in Sri Vidya by his guru, and Marshy may or 
may not have read Shankara's Saundarylahari. 

However, there are no bija mantras to be found in the 
Rig Veda, the scriptures extolled by the Marshy. If he 
were to impart any esoteric bija mantras, where whould 
he have gotten them? If he read them in books, that 
would be a travesty for him to pass them on - you can 
get real bija mantras only in an initiation from a 
tantric guru. 

There are no bija mantras in Patanjalis Yoga Sutras or 
in any of the standard Upanishads.

That is unless you are suggesting that Marshy was a
Tantric Guru - if so, why do you suppose he hasn't 
shared any of his insights into sexual yoga, and why
would he keep all the sex enjoyment techniques to himself? 

We already know that the Marshy was a sexual deviate - 
but now you're suggesting that he passed out tantric
bija mantras that he read about in a book, without 
having been an authentic tantric initiate?

What's up with that?



[FairfieldLife] Next Pandemic

2007-10-19 Thread suziezuzie
Sorry about this link if it comes up patially complete. Copy and paste 
it. If you put Next Pandemic into a seach, there's plenty of 
information on the topic.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote:
 I bet we can drum up some more folks to join or 
 at least lurkers who haven't ever posted who 
 don't like these rules to *outnumber* the 
 so-called consensus are return this group to 
 open discussion.  

How much would you be willing to wager?

 As I have said *before* this is the *only* group 
 I know of on Yahoo that has *posting limits!*   
 There are groups that are highly moderated usually 
 because they are of very narrow purpose such as 
 software support groups.  Many of the mundane 
 (non yoga related) groups I'm on behave more 
 enlightened, balanced and sane than people here.  
 I'm sure others have found this true too.  Doesn't 
 speak well for TM does it?

No, it doesn't, especially since you're no longer a 
TMer in good standing. But this group would be a lot 
better off, in my opinion, with fewer little fascist 
shits like you try to interfere with the sharing of 
information by calling other posters trolls because 
you don't agree with what they have to say. Maybe 
it's time for you to take a tantric sabbatical from 
this group, then return in a year or two when you can 
dialog like a adept, or at least a pundit. At present, 
you are neither, Sir.

Or, maybe you'd like to stand up like a man and offer 
me an opology for calling me a troll and attempting 
to prevent me from exchanging opinions with Bill.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread lurkernomore20002000
 Bhairitu:
Many of the mundane (non yoga related) groups I'm on 
behave  more enlightened, balanced and sane than people here.  I'm 
sure others  have found this true too.
Doesn't speak well for TM does it?

Lurk:
Big judgement.  I think it does speak well for this group.  Ever been 
to a quiet party?  It's pretty boring.  I'd rather have a active group 
dynamic that DOES require a little imposed discipline - if thats what 
it takes to keep things from degrading into pettiness.

Bhairitu:
Supposedly with TM that discipline is supposed to come from within.  
So what you are saying is it doesn't.

Lurk:
Bhairitu, let me tell you a secret I have learned, that has allowed me 
to be a little successful in my chosen field of sales.  People like to 
talk.  People LOVE to talk, espcially about themselves, especially 
about their opinions.  And if you are willing to listen, you will find 
ourself making a friend.  So, no, I don't think TM will instill enough 
self discipline to overcome this tendency.  And I don't view it as a 
failure of TM. I view it as a positive thing that people here have 
opinions, and POVs that they want to express.

Just remember one thing.  God, (or whoever, or whatever), gave you two 
ears and one mouth for a reason.




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread Rick Archer
THYPERLINK
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bob+dylan/talkin+world+war+iii+blues_20021598.
htmlalkin’ World War III Blues 

 

Talkin' World War III Blues was a spontaneous composition created in the
studio during Dylan's final session for The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan.

 

Some time ago a crazy dream came to me,
I dreamt I was walkin into world war three,
I went to the doctor the very next day
To see what kinda words he could say.
He said it was a bad dream.
I wouldnt worry bout it none, though,
They were my own dreams and they’re only in my head.

I said, hold it, doc, a world war passed through my brain.
He said, nurse, get your pad, this boys insane,
He grabbed my arm, I said ouch!
As I landed on the psychiatric couch,
He said, tell me about it.

Well, the whole thing started at 3 oclock fast,
It was all over by quarter past.
I was down in the sewer with some little lover
When I peeked out from a manhole cover
Wondering who turned the lights on.

Well, I got up and walked around
And up and down the lonesome town.
I stood a-wondering which way to go,
I lit a cigarette on a parking meter
And walked on down the road.
It was a normal day.

Well, I rung the fallout shelter bell
And I leaned my head and I gave a yell,
Give me a string bean, Im a hungry man.
A shotgun fired and away I ran.
I dont blame them too much though,
I know I look funny.

Down at the corner by a hot-dog stand
I seen a man, I said, howdy friend,
I guess theres just us two.
He screamed a bit and away he flew.
Thought I was a communist.

Well, I spied a girl and before she could leave,
Lets go and play adam and eve.
I took her by the hand and my heart it was thumpin
When she said, hey man, you crazy or sumpin,
You see what happened last time they started.

Well, I seen a cadillac window uptown
And there was nobody aroun,
I got into the drivers seat
And I drove 42nd street
In my cadillac.
Good car to drive after a war.

Well, I remember seein some ad,
So I turned on my conelrad.
But I didnt pay my con ed bill,
So the radio didnt work so well.
Turned on my player-
It was rock-a-day, johnny singin,
Tell your ma, tell your pa,
Our loves are gonna grow ooh-wah, ooh-wah.

I was feelin kinda lonesome and blue,
I needed somebody to talk to.
So I called up the operator of time
Just to hear a voice of some kind.
When you hear the beep
It will be three oclock,
She said that for over an hour
And I hung it up.

Well, the doctor interrupted me just about then,
Sayin, hey Ive been havin the same old dreams,
But mine was a little different you see.
I dreamt that the only person left after the war was me.
I didnt see you around.

Well, now time passed and now it seems
Everybodys having them dreams.
Everybody sees themselves walkin around with no one else.
Half of the people can be part right all of the time,
Some of the people can be all right part of the time.
I think abraham lincoln said that.
Ill let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours,
I said that.

 

HYPERLINK http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bob+dylan/Bob Dylan lyrics


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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ahh, Good 'Ol FFL

2007-10-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:40 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ahh, Good 'Ol FFL

 

--- In HYPERLINK
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gotcha Lurk. I normally don't resort to name calling, but after 
being called what I was called, my response was quite mild. In the 
interest of civility and consideration for others reading the 
posts, I'll refrain from any disparaging adjectives describing 
anyone posting.

Hey Dix, I have no more power to ban you, than you do to ban me. I 
was just mocking the flaming policy which for all practical purposes 
is a policy in name only. No one willing or able to enforce it. 

Although I’m not crazy about the rule, I’m reluctantly willing and certainly
able to enforce it. I don’t think an occasional slip should warrant
banishment, but egregious and blatant disregard for the guideline, as long
as a consensus supports it, should.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote:
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 9:04 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

  

 While I am glad for the posting limits, I think this latest rule,
 essentially requiring people to play nice with each other, is dumb and
 demeaning to everyone. It basically reduces Rick to the position of having
 to beseech people to mind their manners, and reduces everyone else to either
 whiners or flamers Or, in some cases, both. I hope it soon goes the way of
 teflon.

 Sal

 Because I’m too caught up in work and other matters to read most of the
 posts, it seems that little flame wars erupt and subside without my
 knowledge. If some serious and prolong abuse occurred and were brought to my
 attention, I’d deal with it, as long as we have a consensus that we want to
 restrict such behavior. We seemed to have such a consensus when we first
 established the rule, although it certainly wasn’t unanimous, and we can
 review and revise it any time we like. It seems to me that the intention to
 enforce some sort of civility has made the group more civil, without my
 having to do much enforcing. And I don’t think it has dumbed us down or
 suppressed creativity.
I bet we can drum up some more folks to join or at least lurkers who 
haven't ever posted who don't like these rules to *outnumber* the 
so-called consensus are return this group to open discussion.  As I 
have said *before* this is the *only* group I know of on Yahoo that has 
*posting limits!*   There are groups that are highly moderated usually 
because they are of very narrow purpose such as software support 
groups.  Many of the mundane (non yoga related) groups I'm on behave 
more enlightened, balanced and sane than people here.  I'm sure others 
have found this true too.  Doesn't speak well for TM does it?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ahh, Good 'Ol FFL

2007-10-19 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gotcha Lurk. I normally don't resort to name calling, but after 
being  called what I was called, my response was quite mild. In the 
interest of  civility and consideration for others reading the 
posts, I'll refrain from any disparaging adjectives describing 
anyone  posting.

Hey Dix, I have no more power to ban you, than you do to ban me.  I 
was just mocking the flaming policy which for all practical purposes 
is a policy in name only.  No one willing or able to enforce it.  
FWIW, I enjoy your input.  FWIW II.  I don't think you want to get 
into a flaming match with Doflex. You'd be seriously outgunned in 
that department...thank goodness.

lurk
 
 
 






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/19/07 11:14:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
In a message dated 10/19/07 8:40:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a messag

  Last I saw it was in the thirties. How about that 11% approval
rating for  that Democrat congress? 

Nope. Congress is rated higher than boy  George at 27%: 




Try reading the polls you site.Bush's job approval rating fell to 24  
percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent. A paltry  
11 
percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's record  low.  So 
Congress' positive poll numbers are a fraction of  Bush's.



I should have added according to Zogby.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/19/07 8:40:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Last I saw it was in the thirties. How about that 11% approval
rating for  that Democrat congress? 

Nope. Congress is rated higher than boy George  at 27%: 




Try reading the polls you site.Bush's job approval rating fell to 24  
percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent. A paltry 
11  
percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's record low.  So  
Congress' positive poll numbers are a fraction of  Bush's.



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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of t3rinity
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 10:25 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

 

--- In HYPERLINK
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick
Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I play more of a moderator role, because somebody
 needs to, but as you know, I want to interfere as little as possible and
 basically let the group run on automatic pilot, which it usually does.

Now that answers the question, Who is in control? We are on autopilot..

Sure, but if a plane is flying on autopilot, the pilots still have to sit
there and occasionally intervene.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey T,

Thank you for taking the time to go do deeply on this topic.  It will
take me a while to work up a response that does justice to the level
of thought in your post.  This has been one of the most satisfying
exchanges I have had here on FFL, so thanks for that!  It is really
advancing my thinking and allowing me to reconsider topics in a fresh
way.  I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate this
opportunity for discussion.  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Curtis, this was one of your excellent posts, which at the time I ahd
 neglected. Today is Friday, and I still have a few posts free ;-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  I think where I differ with T is that he seems to believe that his
  experience of the  was in a category beyond thinking.
  
  T  I intuitively knew that here is no wrong that I can ever do,
   and I had a sense of universal love towards everybody and
everything.
 
 There are experiences where thinking is stopped,and there is simply
 witnessing of a force. Thoughts are literally drained off your brain.
 This is another experience, as the one quoted above, where I claerly
 was reflecting, while having the experience. There was some 'insight'
 here, some intuition together with the experience in the bar (and
 coming from it) They were different years towns etc.
  
  I have had my share of revelations in this life and I understand how
  compelling they can feel.  I don't doubt that this insight is useful
  to T, what I doubt is that it is of a qualitatively different
  character than my own insights.  Here T sums up what he sees as my
  perspective:
 
 I would never judge your insights or intuitions. I just explain mine,
 and why I go for it.
  
  TCurtis is never tired to point out that he regards the 
 same mystical experiences many of us share in a different 
 way and strips them of any religious meaning they could 
 have. In fact he tries to understand them rationally 
 only, as I believe. Thus he places ratio[nality] highest, 
 and I always understood this to mean a place where 
 intellect is 'in control'
  
  
  I only disagree with this aspect of the characterization, that my
  insights are gained in this way: T: he tries to understand them
  rationallyonly,
 
 Okay, Curtis, I could not have known how this worked for you. I
 appreciate that there is more to it than pure intellectual reflection.
  What that 'more' is, one has to see, because due to the very nature
 of atheism it couldn't have been a ehm revelation of any sort, like a
 intuition coming from a higher, or more knowing source I assume.
 
 In fact, as you explain, as atheism is very much something defined
 through a negative, it can only be a reaction to this, the falling
 away of something, which you must feel is oppressing, thus a
liberation. 
 
 Yesterday in TV they interviewed this man (Richard Dawkins) who almost
 religiously endorses atheism, he just wrote a bestseller. The
 commentators said more or less that his viewpoints and argumentation
 wasn't really applying to Europe, as there are many  more atheists
 here than in the USA. If you take East-Germany, the majority are
 actually atheists, and the people there, who are believers, did so
 against he ideological oppression of the former communist government,
 who had postulated a 'dialectic materialism' as a states-ideology. I
 would therefore categorize your liberating experience as a reflection
 of your own religious history, within the context of the type of
 religion followed in the USA. It certainly also is a reflection on
 Christianity a a whole, and whenever you or Turq speak of Theism, you
 mention 'a Creator God', yet this is in my oppinion not a defining
 factor of religion, or the kind of theism I persue.
 
 In fact Advaita, which has been my starting point, and still is
 defining very much what I believe, a personal God is admitted, as real
 as we are, but he is not a creator, as there is no creation at all,
 the universe is just a projection, a reflection within Maya,
 illussion. God, Ishwara, is still subject to Maya! That's the
 bottom-line. There are various other theologies especially with the
 Vaishnavas, who postulate a Creator-God, but very different than in
 Christianity. In Dvaita, eg. God is not the Creator, the universe and
 the souls are crated by samsara and karma, very much like in
 Buddhism,God is there rather for liberation instead of creation.
 Visishtadvaita claims God to be the 'efficient and material' cause of
 the universe. So its a Creator God, but we are all parts of God, like
 his limbs!
 
 So there are many different ways of looking at it, we in the west are
 usually just exposed to ONE mode of Theism, and if that comes along
 with oppressive thoughts and ideologies, like the threat of eternal
 condemnation, its quite understandable, that being free of these
 concepts must be a 

[FairfieldLife] Why are we pausing?

2007-10-19 Thread Duveyoung
Are you for war?  

I think this upcoming vote is a critical taking of America's psychic
temperature, and, given that Hillery is leading in the polls, and
that the Dems have not confronted BushCo with any potency, I am
dumbfounded that anyone would vote for either Dems or Repubs --
they're all so obviously in the grasp of GlobalBiz. 

Hillary's lead can only be real if the heart and soul of America is
shockingly tainted.

And, it burns so fiercely to see such an angelic presentation like
Obama's and know he's already got 32 million bucks -- bought and paid
for -- and fast becoming an Uncle Tom. And Obama succeeds while a
REAL angel like Kucinich is an object of derision (Leprachaun's body)
by even Jon Stewart.

I keep asking, How is it that Americans don't know about pain?  Even
a papercut should have taught us that wars leave scars that are like
acid on skin, leave memories of injustice that will not stop boiling
inside the heads of parents, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters,
and doom a generation to experiencing a personality hobbled with a
crippling intent to exact revenge.  

Ask anyone who lost a loved one in the fall of the 911 towers if
they've stopped grinding about it. 

I haven't.

Didn't you lose a loved one then too?  Hundreds of hero cops and
firefighters killed instantly?  Who can recover from this?

How evil the powers that keep whole cultures blazing with anger by
such atrocities.

Almost every American has seen The Godfather where even the children
of one's enemy must be killed, because those children will surely seek
revenge when they grow older, because, OF COURSE, they will not be
able to forgive, could never be able to forgive, and are impossibly
hard-wired forever to hate.  

What Evil Group Consciousness is created by our mass killings in the
Middle East?  We know how we've been challenged to bear the memory of
9-11 -- what don't we get about our killing at least 100 Arabs for
every person who died in the towers?  

What loathsome monster of karma now lurches our way?

Why don't Americans flinch when talking about war and what momentums
are created that continue for lifetimes?  Ask any Jew if they know
someone with a Nazi tattoo.

No one forgets.  These things echo and inform and forcefully mold
cultures. 

What prevents EVERYONE from knowing this tarbaby?  Why can't Americans
feel this world groan under the weight of all the wars and what still
roils billions into every sort of negativity?

Who hasn't seen a napalmed baby in a ditch or its equivalent EVERY DAY
MANY TIMES ON EVERY CHANNEL?  

Jack Baur doing a waterboarding -- that's PRIME TIME -- KIDS WATCHING
TOO - THAT'S OUR ENTERTAINMENT???  

Spending half a trillion dollars on pillaging the lives of hundreds of
millions of innocents while America's downtrodden poor cringe -- this
is politely talked about on CNN like, well, just like how good loving
Nazi families talked about Krystalnacht around the nightly dinner
table, right?

2012 cannot come fast enough, but how dangerous is this long fall
towards it?  After the masses realize that the tipping point happened
way before anyone noticed, after the noticing starts, panic in the
streets might be the most common response as folks everywhere go
through the stages of grief.  

   1. Denial: It can't be happening. America isn't a fascist state
that tortures, invades, imperializes.
   2. Anger: Who let this happen?  Off with their heads! 
   3. Bargaining: Just don't rock the boat.  They're still letting us
vote, and they'll change presidents soon, and maybe we can all get along.
   4. Depression: Globalbiz cannot be beat.  A trillion gallons of
tattoo ink will be used to stamp 666 on every forehead.
   5. Acceptance: It's going to be OK. 2012 is just around the corner.

I'll tell ya, America has never had a Bastille Day, but I think that
the powers of GlobalBiz are pushing our culture way too fast, and the
masses are not being given enough assimilation time for each erosion
to our Bill of Rights.  Is the pressure mounting so much that the poor
will do an uprising?  I doubt it, but how then will all that stress
show itself in our culture?

More bad, lots more bad, right?

I'll tell ya, voting for Dennis Kucinich just ain't a gonna cut it for
me.  Even he wouldn't suggest the death penalty for Bush, right?

So here's what I can do:  if anyone, ANYONE even slightly suggests
that mass carnage is acceptable, that Hillary is not as evil as Bush,
I'm going to start raging, screaming, ranting, on the spot.  Yeah,
make a total fool of myself.

Why?  Cuz, well, that's what you'd do right?

You'd do that, right?  You'll scream your throat raw if anyone says in
your presence that they're going to vote for Hillary.

I'm absolutely sure you do that.

Okay, you don't want to admit you'd do that?

I'm telling you: if you had clarity, you'd do that.

Still in stage one denial?

Okay, you asked for it.  Here's the clarity you're missing:

If you opened a bedroom door and found your 42 year 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Alex Stanley
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 8:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

 

This notion of Rick Archer as rules-wielding fascist is utterly
ridiculous. It was with great reluctance that he even put in place
FFL's posting limits, and in all the years, only one person has ever
been permanently banned from FFL. The Wed Night Yahoo Group is
supposed to be an extension of the group that meets in Tom T's
livingroom, and the biggest problem is that laissez-faire Rick doesn't
run the Yahoo Group like Tom runs his livingroom.

I set up the Wednesday night chat because I know how, not because I want to
run it. I’m just a technician there, mostly sending out occasional
invitations, usually at Tom’s request. I’m not a moderator and don’t want to
be. Here in FFL of course, I play more of a moderator role, because somebody
needs to, but as you know, I want to interfere as little as possible and
basically let the group run on automatic pilot, which it usually does. A
more controlling role would directly contradict the mission of the group, as
stated in the description: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fairfieldlife/.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 19, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:


Can't keep track of who's in and who's out here--that fascist
Archer must be practicing mind-control again.


This notion of Rick Archer as rules-wielding fascist is utterly
ridiculous. It was with great reluctance that he even put in place
FFL's posting limits, and in all the years, only one person has ever
been permanently banned from FFL. The Wed Night Yahoo Group is
supposed to be an extension of the group that meets in Tom T's
livingroom, and the biggest problem is that laissez-faire Rick doesn't
run the Yahoo Group like Tom runs his livingroom.


Alex,
I was *joking,* for crying out loud--do I really have to put those 
silly little smiley faces every time I want to make a funny?


While I am glad for the posting limits, I think this latest rule, 
essentially requiring people to play nice with each other, is dumb and 
demeaning to everyone.  It  basically reduces Rick to the position of 
having to beseech people to  mind their manners, and reduces everyone 
else to either whiners or flamers  Or, in some cases, both.  I hope it 
soon goes the way of teflon.


Sal


[FairfieldLife] Re: Wolds are Words. Words as Symbolic Representations. Words as Samsakara Trigg

2007-10-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
It is with great pleasure that I honor New Morning with the Free
Thinker of the Week Award!  That was brilliant.

Honorable mention goes to Card for the most charming, scholarly porn.
(As a side note, having done a bit of research in the field, the new
generation of Fins are no doubt choosing a new grass-free image.)
 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  I just transcended on the mantra Cunt.
  
  Should I have added OM or Namah to like, make it more effective?
  
  I did add 25. Sunk like a rock. The universe expanded, exploded, 
 and
  all was ONE. I guess cunt 25 is IT. 
  
  (Sorry for the embollism Edg. But you knew it was inevitable. To 
 get
  so 250/120 BP over words.)
  
  
 
 I don't believe the semantic meanings of words are that
 important. The Finnish word for 'cunt', 'vittu', seems
 to be a phonetic adaptation, or whatever, of Swedish 'fitta',
 which originally is said to have meant e.g. 'a wet meadow'.





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2007-10-19 Thread WLeed3
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NJ. A person in ff has purchased an auto in NJ  desires to fetch it  or to be 
driven there to bring it back to ff him self.
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 10/19/07 7:38:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Who on  God's earth is Naomi Wolf? Wasn't she the one that dressed Al
  Gore in  
   earth tones?
  
  You wanted evidence the country is  growing more fascist. Read the
  article, asshole.
  
   
  
  I did. And it's pure emotionalism and hyperbole,  fool!
 
 It's based on facts, bwana. Are you the classic less than  bright
 redneck? Haven't you noticed your boy George is at 24% approval  now?
 He's tied with Nixon when Nixon walked out of the White House in  shame.


 Twenty-four percent, who's poll? 


Bush sinks to 24% approval - Reuters/Zogby:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071017/pl_nm/usa_politics_poll_dc_1

Bush's current 24% record is tied with Dick's lowest... that's the
same approval rating that Nixon had the day he walked out of the White
House in shame.


Nixon (Gallup)

8/1974
Approve 24%
Disapprove 66%

CBS:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/02/opinion/polls/main1005327.shtml 


 Last I saw it was in the thirties. How about that 11% approval
rating for that Democrat congress? 


Nope. Congress is rated higher than boy George at 27%: 

CBS Poll 10/12-16/07:   27% Americans approve of Congress' job
http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm


 Don't count on Bush walking out any time soon. 


Uh...everyone knows Bush won't be out until the end of his term. You
think that's news?


 He will be a pain in the butt to Reid/Pelosi till then.


Classic right wing freak show response. Bush has been *much more* than
a pain in the butt to the American people for over 6 1/2 years and the
American people have had enough. 

Denial of reality is quite necessary for you to sustain your
anti-American ideology. Can you admit why your boy George and the GOP
are on a fast sinking political ship? I doubt it. That's an example of
you're denial of reality.






[FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 10/19/07 7:18:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Who on  God's earth is Naomi Wolf? Wasn't she the one that dressed Al
 Gore in  
  earth tones?
 
 You wanted evidence the country is growing more  fascist. Read the
 article, asshole.
 
 
 
 I did. And it's pure emotionalism and hyperbole,  fool!


It's based on facts, bwana. Are you the classic less than bright
redneck? Haven't you noticed your boy George is at 24% approval now?
He's tied with Nixon when Nixon walked out of the White House in shame.

See video clip of Nixon, the man boy George partially emulates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejvyDn1TPr8






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/19/07 7:26:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
In a message dated 10/19/07 7:18:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a messag

Who on  God's earth is Naomi Wolf? Wasn't she the one that dressed Al
Gore in  
 earth tones?

You wanted evidence the country is growing more  fascist. Read the
article, asshole.



I did. And it's pure emotionalism and hyperbole,  fool!




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Bush were a fascist, Stark would be in prison with no  bail.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/19/07 7:18:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Who on  God's earth is Naomi Wolf? Wasn't she the one that dressed Al
Gore in  
 earth tones?

You wanted evidence the country is growing more  fascist. Read the
article, asshole.



I did. And it's pure emotionalism and hyperbole,  fool!



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[FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 10/19/07 6:32:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
   Please explain how the country is 
  growing more and more Fascist day  by day.
 
 Won't Back Down
 By: Naomi Wolf
 
 
 
 Who on God's earth is Naomi Wolf? Wasn't she the one that dressed Al
Gore  in 
 earth tones?


You wanted evidence the country is growing more fascist. Read the
article, asshole.







[FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 10/18/07 2:48:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 His  legacy will be the worst president in history and if anyone in 
 congress  has enough balls he'll serve it out in Leavenworth. The 
 country is growing  more and more fascist day by day.
 
 
 Sorry, that's Jimmy Carter's legacy. 


Jimmy Carter didn't violate national and international laws. Dubya'
has arrogantly and blatantly done so.


 Please explain how the country is  
 growing more and more Fascist day by day.


Won't Back Down
By: Naomi Wolf

Naomi Wolf is the author of The End of America: A Letter of Warning To
A Young Patriot.


I wish people would stop breaking into tears when they talk to me
these days.

I am traveling across the country at the moment — Colorado to
California — speaking to groups of Americans from all walks of life
about the assault on liberty and the ten steps now underway in America
to a violently closed society.

The good news is that Americans are already awake: I thought there
would be resistance to or disbelief at this message of gathering
darkness — but I am finding crowds of people who don't need me to tell
them to worry; they are already scared, already alert to the danger
and entirely prepared to hear what the big picture might look like. To
my great relief, Americans are smart and brave and they are
unflinching in their readiness to hear the worst and take action. And
they love their country.

But I can't stand the stories I am hearing. I can't stand to open my
email these days. And wherever I go, it seems, at least once a day,
someone very strong starts to cry while they are speaking.

In Boulder, two days ago, a rosy-cheeked thirtysomething mother of two
small children, in soft yoga velours, started to tear up when she said
to me: `I want to take action but I am so scared. I look at my kids
and I am scared. How do you deal with fear? Is it safer for them if I
act or stay quiet? I don't want to get on a list.'

In DC, before that, a beefy, handsome civil servant, a government
department head — probably a Republican — confides in a lowered voice
that he is scared to sign the new ID requirement for all government
employees, that exposes all his most personal information to the State
— but he is scared not to sign it: `If I don't, I lose my job, my
house. It's like the German National ID card,' he said quietly.

This morning in Denver I talked for almost an hour to a brave,
much-decorated high-level military leader who is not only on the watch
list for his criticism of the administration — his family is now on
the list. He has undertaken many dangerous combat missions in his
service to his country over the course of his career, but his voice
cracks when he talks about the possibility that he is exposing his
children to harassment.

Jim Spencer, a former columnist for the Denver Post who has been
critical of the Bush administration, told me today that I could use
his name: he is on the watch list.

An attorney contacts me to say that she told her colleagues at the
Justice Department not to torture a detainee; she says she then faced
a criminal investigation, a professional referral, saw her emails
deleted — and now she is on the watch list.

I was told last night that a leader of Code Pink, the anti-war women's
action group, was refused entry to Canada.

I hear from a tech guy who works for the airlines — again, probably a
Republican — that once you are on the list you never get off.

Someone else says that his friend opened his luggage to find a letter
from the TSA saying that they did not appreciate his reading material.

Before I go into the security lines, I find myself editing my
possessions. In New York's LaGuardia, I reluctantly found myself
putting a hardcover copy of Tara McKelvey's excellent Monstering, an
expose of CIA interrogation practices, in a garbage can before I get
in the security line; it is based on classified information.

This morning at my hotel, before going to the airport, I threw away a
very nice black T-shirt that said `We Will Not be Silenced' — with an
Arabic translation — that someone had given me, along with a copy of
poems written by detainees at Guantanamo.

In my America we are not scared to get in line at the airport. In my
America, we will not be silenced.

More times than I can count, courageous and confident men and women
who are telling me about speaking up, but who are risking what they
see as the possible loss of job, home or the ability to pay for grown
kids' schooling, start to choke up. Yesterday a woman in one gathering
started to cry simply while talking about the degradation of her
beloved country.

And always the questions: what do we do?

It is clear from this inundation of personal stories of abuse and
retribution against ordinary Americans that a network of criminal
behavior and intention is catching up more and more mainstream
citizens in its grasp. It 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wolds are Words. Words as Symbolic Representations. Words as Samsakara Trigg

2007-10-19 Thread new . morning
I just transcended on the mantra Cunt.

Should I have added OM or Namah to like, make it more effective?

I did add 25. Sunk like a rock. The universe expanded, exploded, and
all was ONE. I guess cunt 25 is IT. 

(Sorry for the embollism Edg. But you knew it was inevitable. To get
so 250/120 BP over words.)








--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am just guessing -- this would not be an appropriate post for WNC?
 
 The sugar might spill from the Sterling silver tea set?
 
 Samskara word triggers,the distinction of words and essence not
relevant?
 
 OMG. OMG! What has thou Wrought? (I mean rot -- god loves word ironies
 and games)
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote
 
 :
 
  Not for delicate nervous systems
 
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunt
  
  That which is closest to the Truth, last longest. 
  
  Sims -- 1966-1982
  
  Cunt 1325 -- still going strong
  
  more below (chuckle, grin)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Cunt is an English language vulgarism most commonly used in reference
  to vulva or vagina and, more generally, the pubis, from the mons
  veneris to the perineum.[1] The earliest citation of this usage, circa
  1230, is in the Oxford English Dictionary, referring to the London
  street known as Gropecunt Lane; as the word cunt has been
  incorporated into the colloquial and technical speech of nautical and
  other occupational traditions.
  
  Generally, cunt is considered an obscene word, and therefore greatly
  offensive, although, as with all verbal profanities, some speakers
  regard it as merely informal or even a term of endearment. Calling
  someone a cunt is generally considered impolite at best, and often as
  extremely offensive, though this varies between countries and social
  groupings.
  
  Cunt is sometimes used as a nonspecific derogatory epithet in
  referring to either sex (in Australian English, specifically male; the
  Macquarie Dictionary defines cunt as a despicable man). Its usage as
  vulgar insult is, however, a relatively recent development, the
  earliest citation dating from 1929.[citation needed].Use of cunt as
  term of abuse for a woman is a 20th/21st century meaning. From
  Frederic Manning's 1929 The Middle Parts of Fortune:
  
  What's the cunt want to come down 'ere buggering us about for, 'aven't
  we done enough bloody work in th' week?
  
  This word for the female genitalia dates back to the Middle English
  period, c.1325. Its exact origin is unknown, but is related to the Old
  Norse kunta, a word with cognates in several other Germanic languages.
  From the Proverbs of Hendyng, a manuscript from sometime before 1325:
  
  #540;eue þi cunte to cunnig and craue affetir wedding. (Give your
cunt
  wisely and beg after the wedding.)
  
  The term also has various other uses (see usage below).
  Contents
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[FairfieldLife] Next Pandemic

2007-10-19 Thread suziezuzie
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20050701faessay84401/laurie-garrett/the-
next-pandemic.html



[FairfieldLife] Next Pandemic

2007-10-19 Thread suziezuzie
Heard on the radio, a scientist was saying that the last flu pandemic 
was in 1918. With records kept at that time, the estimated number of 
deaths was 30 million but she said, 50 million was more accurate. She 
stated that every hundred years, there are two minor pandemics and 
one major one. She said that the bird flu is now primed or evolved 
for the next one hundred year pandemic which will sweep across the 
USA in waves over three weeks and will kill hundreds of millions 
world wild because---the virus has evolved to withstand temperatures 
over 98.6. She said that when the flu stikes, the US will become 
inoperative  because half the population will be at home. The 
hospitals will not be able to handle the load and the infrastructure 
and services will have no one to work them. When the pandemic hits 
the US, you'll need to have three months of supplies, food and water 
stored in your home until it finishes. Be prepared to stay home for 
at least three months. And don't forget the guns when the neighbors 
come over, sick as a dog, wanting your stuff. 

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20050701faessay84402/michael-t-
osterholm/preparing-for-the-next-pandemic.html



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 In a message dated 10/19/07 8:40:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
  Last I saw it was in the thirties. How about that 11% approval
 
 rating for  that Democrat congress? 

 Nope. Congress is rated higher than boy George  at 27%: 




 Try reading the polls you site.Bush's job approval rating fell to 24  
 percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent. A paltry 
 11  
 percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's record low.  So  
 Congress' positive poll numbers are a fraction of  Bush's.



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Congress is getting a low rating, almost as low as Dick Cheney because 
the cowards (yes Democrats too) are not doing what the American people 
want and impeaching Bush and Cheney.  They are afraid of being called 
soft on terror when they return to their districts but what they are 
now finding is they are being called soft of Bush.  I think, as Nader 
points out in this video, they have been blackmailed:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rIO-tCPSfHA

Naomi Kline argued here how America is going fascist.  But I think one 
has to be brain dead not to see America is going fascist (or you don't 
understand *what* fascism is).
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Naomi_Klein_explains_how_we_willingly_1013.html




[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-19 Thread shukra69
Mercury goes retrograde quite often. It also that Saturn is right now 
conjunct Ketu, and also right now Saturn is not only afflicted by 
that but also weak due to its dispositor being weak (the Sun, at the 
moment changing signs. This will impact some individuals and nations 
very badly depending on their ascendant and if they have a birth 
planet around the same approx 11 degrees in odd signs.
But the worst is already averted.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 all the jyotishees are so inclined, because of the present
 transit of Mercury.
 
 this msg from Team CyberAstro (www.cyberastro.com)
 summarizes it well:
 
 Mercury is the planet of intelligence and exchange/transaction 
 in our daily life. During retrograde motion, Mercury will cause
 confusion, rumour galore, and communication bottlenecks in our life.
  
 In mundane astrology, retrograde Mercury reverses the present trend 
 in the stock market. So, watch out! 
 
 Take a little more care on house keeping activities on your 
 computer and mail systems. 
 
 Of course effect of retrograde Mercury will be different 
 on different people based on their individual charts 
 and specific house and life aspects that Libra represents 
 in the individual chart.
 
 also, Fairfielder David Hawthorne has this to say:
 Mercury transits Libra from 12:39 to 04:43
 and moves away from the aspects of Saturn and Rahu. 
 Mercury is combust until Oct. 29, and retrograde until Nov. 1
 Be careful with your stocks, business and communications.
 
 http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/index.php?
option=com_contenttask=blogcategoryid=104Itemid=98
 
  docu1000 wrote:
 
  Below is a free alert from Mahendra Sharma (link
  http://www.mahendraprophecy.com/LatestFlash.asp?Id=334Page=3%20
  I wonder what Maharishi Jyotish predicts.
  
  Dear Member,
  We are approaching toward worst volatile period like 1929 and 
1987.
  I advise please stay alert and just watch market. 
  Hold cash as many will fall with fall of commodities, 
  stock market and hot bubble currencies.
  This will happen in the next two weeks.
  
  As predicted today all commodities will remain very volatile.
  Trading up can move down during the day 
  (This apply for metals, oil and grains).
  
  I mentioned in newsletter that today is the day to sell 
  Canadian and Australian dollar and yes once again I confirm that.
  Currently December contract are trading at $1.0243 and 0.9009.
  Dollar index trading stable and it should trade positive.
  
  I predicted major crash in all stock market from 18 October 
  so watch this date closely and plan your trades accordingly. 
  There will blood-bath in Asian market and may few of the market
  will close down for few days so watch carefully. 
  Get out from all position before 18 October including metals,
  Uranium and Alternative energy stocks.
  Coffee and cotton to remain positive.
  Thanks  God Bless
  Mahendra Sharma, 11 Oct 5.50AM





[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, docu1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Below is a free alert from Mahendra Sharma (link
 http://www.mahendraprophecy.com/LatestFlash.asp?Id=334Page=3%20 ). I
 wonder what Maharishi Jyotish predicts.
 
 Dear Member,
 
 We are approaching toward worst volatile period like 1929 and 1987. I
 advise please stay alert and just watch market. Hold cash as many will
 fall with fall of commodities, stock market and hot bubble currencies.
 This will happen in the next two weeks.
 
 As predicted today all commodities will remain very volatile. Trading up
 can move down during the day (This apply for metals, oil and grains).
 
 I mentioned in newsletter that today is the day to sell Canadian and
 Australian dollar and yes once again I confirm that. Currently December
 contract are trading at $1.0243 and 0.9009. Dollar index trading stable
 and it should trade positive.
 
 I predicted major crash in all stock market from 18 October so watch
 this date closely and plan your trades accordingly. There will
 blood-bath in Asian market and may few of the market will close down for
 few days so watch carefully. Get out from all position before 18 October
 including metals, Uranium and Alternative energy stocks.
 



 Coffee and cotton to remain positive.

Does he have any predictions on Gold ? It's unfortunately traded in
that american dollar...

 
 Thanks  God Bless
 Mahendra Sharma, 11 Oct 5.50AM





[FairfieldLife] Re: Wolds are Words. Words as Symbolic Representations. Words as Samsakara Trigg

2007-10-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  I just transcended on the mantra Cunt.
  
  Should I have added OM or Namah to like, make it more effective?
  
  I did add 25. Sunk like a rock. The universe expanded, exploded, 
 and
  all was ONE. I guess cunt 25 is IT. 
  
  (Sorry for the embollism Edg. But you knew it was inevitable. To 
 get
  so 250/120 BP over words.)
  
  
 
 I don't believe the semantic meanings of words are that
 important. The Finnish word for 'cunt', 'vittu', seems
 to be a phonetic adaptation, or whatever, of Swedish 'fitta',
 which originally is said to have meant e.g. 'a wet meadow'.

And fittstim ?




[FairfieldLife] Crash stock markets.

2007-10-19 Thread docu1000
Below is a free alert from Mahendra Sharma (link
http://www.mahendraprophecy.com/LatestFlash.asp?Id=334Page=3%20 ). I
wonder what Maharishi Jyotish predicts.

Dear Member,

We are approaching toward worst volatile period like 1929 and 1987. I
advise please stay alert and just watch market. Hold cash as many will
fall with fall of commodities, stock market and hot bubble currencies.
This will happen in the next two weeks.

As predicted today all commodities will remain very volatile. Trading up
can move down during the day (This apply for metals, oil and grains).

I mentioned in newsletter that today is the day to sell Canadian and
Australian dollar and yes once again I confirm that. Currently December
contract are trading at $1.0243 and 0.9009. Dollar index trading stable
and it should trade positive.

I predicted major crash in all stock market from 18 October so watch
this date closely and plan your trades accordingly. There will
blood-bath in Asian market and may few of the market will close down for
few days so watch carefully. Get out from all position before 18 October
including metals, Uranium and Alternative energy stocks.

Coffee and cotton to remain positive.

Thanks  God Bless
Mahendra Sharma, 11 Oct 5.50AM



[FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Oct 18, 2007, at 10:15 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
  wrote:
   We lost both Bronte and Angela in one evening--we must be doing
  something right.
 
  Must have missed that losing Angela part.
 
 Oh, I thought she was dropping out too--maybe she meant out of
 the WNC group.
 
 Can't keep track of who's in and who's out here--that fascist
 Archer must be practicing mind-control again.

This notion of Rick Archer as rules-wielding fascist is utterly
ridiculous. It was with great reluctance that he even put in place
FFL's posting limits, and in all the years, only one person has ever
been permanently banned from FFL. The Wed Night Yahoo Group is
supposed to be an extension of the group that meets in Tom T's
livingroom, and the biggest problem is that laissez-faire Rick doesn't
run the Yahoo Group like Tom runs his livingroom.



[FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 10/18/07 9:46:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Sorry, that's Jimmy Carter's legacy. Please explain how the
country is  
  growing more and more Fascist day by day.
 Try reading the news.  We've lost habeas corpus. We now know that 
 Bushco had the telecoms  snooping through our emails before 9-11. The 
 telecoms should NOT be  granted immunity from prosecution for the 
 snooping. We have unwarranted  search and seizures. We have the cops 
 tasering innocent people. We have  stuck on the do not fly list who 
 don't belong there but can't get off  it. And on and on and on.
 
 
 
 My goodness, well I guess Lincoln was a precursor to Adolf Hitler
since he  
 suspended Habeas Corpus as well. And Roosevelt? How about throwing
all those  
 *Japs* in concentration camps and spying on the Kraut/Americans in
the US.  So 
 Bush has cops tasering innocent people? Ha! Those were campus
police, under  
 the control of a University President who hosted John Kerry to
speak. Kerry  
 could have done more to prevent *Don't tase me Bro* from getting
what he  
 deserved better than Bush could have. If Bush were half the Fascist
you seem to  
 think he is, there would be no *Bundestag*( Congress), no articles
critical of  
 him or his administration printed, your e-mail investigated by the
FBI and on  
 and on and on.


IMAGE: The America We Used to Know

http://www.bartcop.com/usa-mssing.jpg






[FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-19 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Don't feed the troll. Don't take mantra knowledge from a troll. 
Enough said.
 
 You would have to be both deaf and blind to not know bij mantras 
growing 
 up in India. :)
 
 
 biosoundbill wrote:
  Richard,
 
  Most of the TM mantras are listed in the Varada Tantra.
 
  I believe MMY played around with them a little to dilute their 
  power, like making Kriing into ki-ring, Shriing into shir-ing, 
  Hriing into Hi-ring, shyam into she-am, etc

In Sanskrit, 'y' as in English 'yes', represents, I believe,
(almost?) always an older i-sound. In Vedic recitation, words
like 'suurya' (sun), are often pronounced like 'suuria'. Actually,
I seem to recall that 'suuryaH' is *always* pronounced like
'suuriaH'(~soo-ree-a[k]ha), but am not absolutely sure about that. I 
think the pronunciation depends on the requirements of the metre 
(meter)in question. In Classical Sanskrit, it is, of course,
pronounced like 'soor-ya(k)ha'!

Thus it seems that 'she-am' (shiaama) would represent
an older pronunciation, if that word is old enough to appear
in the saMhitaa-s, and stuff. Have no idea whether that makes
that word more or less powerful...


  He really went to town on Saraswati aing,ainga,aim,and aima 
  (Pronounced  i-ing, i-ing-ah, i-im, and i-eem-ah respectively) – 
was 
  he short on mantras, or what?
 
  Again as I said before, Southern pronunciation is slightly 
  different, they pronounce the `ii' in a bija as the `ee' in the 
word 
  feet etc,they also tend  to use only the anusvara `M' 
ending,where 
  the lips are closed pushing the sound up the nasal passages. It 
  sounds more like the `mb' ending in the word Numb!
 
  In the North the `ii' is pronounced more like the `i' in the 
words 
  ring, bring, fling, etc
  Some Northerners use the anusvara `M' ending, but more use the 
  allegedly more powerful `ng' ending known as anunAsika,-
personally I 
  think the anusvara `M' ending is more powerful and grounding in 
the 
  long term.
 
  The late Harish Johari tended to pronounce the bijas with `ng' 
  endings combined with the `ee' sound as against the `i' sound 
giving 
  shreeng, hreeng, kreeng, etc
 
  Bottom line no matter what way the bijas are pronounced they are 
all 
  Tantric.
 
  Namaste,
 
  Billy
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
  willytex@ wrote:

  Bhairitu wrote:
  
  The short bij mantra bobs up and down.  
 

  There seems to be some confusion here. Marshy doesn't 
  give out 'bija' mantras, only the names of the devatas, 
  the deified heroes of the Hindu tradition, along with 
  various words and phrases from Sanskrit. Marshy isn't 
  a tantric yogi in the Nath tradition, therefore he 
  would not be knowing any actual bija mantras. The tantric 
  bija mantras are enumerated in the Buddhist Tantras. 
  There are no bija mantras in the Rig Veda, in the 
  Upahishads, or in the Puranas. There are no canonical 
  collections of bija mantras in Hinduism. The Buddhist 
  bija mantras all originated with the Nath Siddhas when 
  India was a Buddhist country.
 
  
 
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Wed Night Chat

2007-10-19 Thread new . morning
Since I am not one of invited elite (I am so bummed) I search for it.

Is that Tom's ass. Or Ricks. Or Brontes. or Gods. 

  
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/191471.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: Next Pandemic

2007-10-19 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Sorry about this link if it comes up patially complete. Copy and paste 
 it. If you put Next Pandemic into a seach, there's plenty of 
 information on the topic.

This link to it will work:

http://tinyurl.com/7jmdd



[FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-19 Thread matrixmonitor
---The Mahareeshee was by No means a sexual deviate!. He simply had 
normal sexual relationships, (encounters) with various females. 
What's wrong with that?


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 biosoundbill wrote:
  Richard are you saying that the TM mantras are 
  not Tantric Bija Mantras?
  
 Bill - The so-called TM bija mantras are just common 
 everyday words from the Sanskrit dictionary. They can 
 be found in almost any standard Sanskrit lexicon. For 
 example, Ram, Sri, Nama...nothing esoteric. 
 
 In contrast, Buddhist Tantric bijas are all esoteric - 
 sounds that have no semantic meaning. Marshy is not 
 a Tantric Yogi, therefore he would be knowing nothing 
 about any esoteric bijas. He may or may not have been 
 instructed in Sri Vidya by his guru, and Marshy may or 
 may not have read Shankara's Saundarylahari. 
 
 However, there are no bija mantras to be found in the 
 Rig Veda, the scriptures extolled by the Marshy. If he 
 were to impart any esoteric bija mantras, where whould 
 he have gotten them? If he read them in books, that 
 would be a travesty for him to pass them on - you can 
 get real bija mantras only in an initiation from a 
 tantric guru. 
 
 There are no bija mantras in Patanjalis Yoga Sutras or 
 in any of the standard Upanishads.
 
 That is unless you are suggesting that Marshy was a
 Tantric Guru - if so, why do you suppose he hasn't 
 shared any of his insights into sexual yoga, and why
 would he keep all the sex enjoyment techniques to himself? 
 
 We already know that the Marshy was a sexual deviate - 
 but now you're suggesting that he passed out tantric
 bija mantras that he read about in a book, without 
 having been an authentic tantric initiate?
 
 What's up with that?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/19/07 11:36:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Congress  is getting a low rating, almost as low as Dick Cheney because 
the cowards  (yes Democrats too) are not doing what the American people 
want and  impeaching Bush and Cheney.


Show me a poll that reflects this statement.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/19/07 6:32:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  Please explain how the country is 
 growing more and more Fascist day  by day.

Won't Back Down
By: Naomi Wolf



Who on God's earth is Naomi Wolf? Wasn't she the one that dressed Al Gore  in 
earth tones?



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/18/07 9:15:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

--Not  Fascist, but rather: religious fundamentalist.--Not  
takeover with  various fundies in the Pentagon and Military.
The fundies will have  difficulty throwing their support to 
Giulianni, thus giving the next  election to a Democrat.

In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED],  MDi

 
 In a message dated  10/18/07 2:48:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
 
 His legacy will be the worst president in history  and if anyone 
in 
 congress has enough balls he'll serve it out in  Leavenworth. The 
 country is growing more and more fascist day by  day.
 



I think the country has been pretty much in the control of *fundies*  since 
it's inception.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/18/07 9:46:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Sorry, that's Jimmy Carter's legacy. Please explain how the country is  
 growing more and more Fascist day by day.
Try reading the news.  We've lost habeas corpus. We now know that 
Bushco had the telecoms  snooping through our emails before 9-11. The 
telecoms should NOT be  granted immunity from prosecution for the 
snooping. We have unwarranted  search and seizures. We have the cops 
tasering innocent people. We have  stuck on the do not fly list who 
don't belong there but can't get off  it. And on and on and on.



My goodness, well I guess Lincoln was a precursor to Adolf Hitler since he  
suspended Habeas Corpus as well. And Roosevelt? How about throwing all those  
*Japs* in concentration camps and spying on the Kraut/Americans in the US.  So 
Bush has cops tasering innocent people? Ha! Those were campus police, under  
the control of a University President who hosted John Kerry to speak. Kerry  
could have done more to prevent *Don't tase me Bro* from getting what he  
deserved better than Bush could have. If Bush were half the Fascist you seem to 
 
think he is, there would be no *Bundestag*( Congress), no articles critical of  
him or his administration printed, your e-mail investigated by the FBI and on  
and on and on.



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[FairfieldLife] Ahh, Good 'Ol FFL

2007-10-19 Thread lurkernomore20002000
You wanted evidence the country is growing more  fascist. Read the
article, asshole.


 
I did. And it's pure emotionalism and hyperbole,  fool!

 
It's based on facts, bwana. Are you the classic less than bright
redneck? 

Hey, you guys are gonna get banned for a week, NEXT TIME for sure.  
I warning ya, I'm really warnin ya.  NEXT TIME, One really, really, 
really last chance. I'm gonna do it, I'm really gonna do 
it...next time.

lurk






Re: [FairfieldLife] Ahh, Good 'Ol FFL

2007-10-19 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 10/19/07 8:01:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You  wanted evidence the country is growing more fascist. Read the
article,  asshole.

I did. And it's pure emotionalism and hyperbole,  fool!

It's based on facts, bwana. Are you the classic less than  bright
redneck? 

Hey, you guys are gonna get banned for a week, NEXT  TIME for sure. 
I warning ya, I'm really warnin ya. NEXT TIME, One really,  really, 
really last chance. I'm gonna do it, I'm really gonna do  
it..it...it..

lurk



Gotcha Lurk. I normally don't resort to name calling, but after being  called 
what I was called, my response was quite mild. In the interest of  civility 
and consideration for others reading the posts, I'll refrain from any  
disparaging adjectives describing anyone  posting.



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[FairfieldLife] Elephants Use Smell of Fear to Sort Friend from Foe

2007-10-19 Thread do.rflex




Elephants Use Smell of Fear to Sort Friend from Foe

Scientific American, October 18, 2007
http://www.sciam.com/print_version.cfm?articleID=B4F19421-0EA5-62AE-89758AC94F723D17


They say elephants never forget, but their brainpower does not stop
there. A new study suggests that pachyderms can distinguish
threatening groups of people from those who mean them no harm.

Researchers working in Kenya presented the animals with identical red
garments worn for five days either by Maasai tribesmen, who slay
elephants to prove their strength and daring, or by farmers of the
Kamba tribe, who leave the pachyderms in peace.

The beasts turned tail and ran after sniffing the clothing worn by the
Maasai but had much less reaction to the odor of the Kamba, according
to a report published in Current Biology. The same elephants responded
aggressively toward unworn red robes—the traditional color of the
Maasai—but not toward odorless white clothing.

It tells us a bit about how elephants classify the world, says
evolutionary psychologist Richard Byrne of the University of St.
Andrews in Scotland. Instead of treating humans as all one set,
they're able to discriminate within one set.

Human minds effortlessly extract key characteristics common to groups
of objects, he says, such as the redness of apples. But researchers
are less sure whether animals can form similar categories.

Byrne says he, St. Andrews colleague Lucy Bates and the other team
members began their experiment after talking to members of the
Amboseli Elephant Research Project in Nairobi, Kenya, who told tales
of odd elephant behavior.

There were a number of reports of very inquisitive and sometimes
aggressive reactions of elephants toward signs of Maasai, but not
towards people brandishing spears, he says.

Researchers have found that individual elephants can identify one
another as strangers or old friends. Byrne says the fact that
elephants seem to pick out particular cues from their environment that
mark Maasai warriors suggests that the animals can actually classify
whole subsets of a species based on the threat they pose.

The elephants' different reactions to smell and color make sense, he
adds, because the odor of a Maasai hunter implies that he is nearby,
triggering fear that sends the pachyderm packing.

It's an innovative way of getting at the problem of what animals
know about their environments, says Karen McComb, an expert in mammal
communication and cognition at the University of Sussex in Brighton,
England. The response is very appropriate to knowing what the threat
was. It's suggesting they have some sort of reasonably advanced
understanding of the sorts of cues that are going to be dangers.

As for what goes on in their heads and whether it resembles human
consciousness, she adds, we can only guess. 






[FairfieldLife] Re: Angela Tells It to The FF Enlightened

2007-10-19 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I play more of a moderator role, because somebody
 needs to, but as you know, I want to interfere as little as possible and
 basically let the group run on automatic pilot, which it usually does.

Now that answers the question, Who is in control? We are on autopilot..