[FairfieldLife] Followup to Share's post about eating insects
Don't eat them...fly them: http://digg.com/video/this-10-second-animation-is-bound-to-make-you-smil\ e http://digg.com/video/this-10-second-animation-is-bound-to-make-you-smi\ le
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
Why not ? BTW, a brand new Tape Library is being constructed in Vlodrop to house the Sea of tapes as Maharishi called them. Donations welcome.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Being *afraid* to write about one's spiritual experience
Nice to read a well written piece on experiences here. Stands out from the rest, thanks for posting.
[FairfieldLife] Jargon As A Second Language: how it impedes spiritual communication
Michael's story about a Death Watch, Southern-Style really inspired me this morning. It reached me. It got me interested in the characters and the scenario and how things were gonna turn out...even though that was a little telegraphed by the title. :-) Being me, I started thinking about this in terms of some recent posts that have discussed the writing of stories about spiritual experience. Some of the tales of power I've read from seekers on many paths reached me, and some didn't. In some cases there was too much Look at me in the tales I didn't like, too much attention-seeking on the part of the storyteller, and that -- for me -- is a bit of a turnoff. But more often in the tales I didn't like, the issue was language, and in particular the overuse of spiritual jargon. Jargon has its uses. If you're dealing with a concept that really doesn't much exist for most of the people in your audience, it's fine IMO to give it a name. The first time a spiritual teacher does this, he or she also gives a talk about what that name or term *means*. If it's a term that comes up in his or her teaching often, over time the students no longer need the explanations or definitions every time they hear the term. They hear karma and *don't* hear in their heads Huh? They begin to hear karma and immediately associate the term with everything they've been told about it by their teacher. Nothing wrong with this so far, IMO. It's when the students go out and try to talk to non-students that the issue of Jargon As A Second Language comes up. If these same students try to give a lecture or write a story that is peppered with the jargon they've come to be so familiar with that they don't even *notice* when they're using it, then they often lose their audience. If every other word is karma this, or dosa that, or purusha somethingorother, all interjected with no definitions of the terms, IMO the storyteller is *limiting* his audience. And in most cases, losing them. They've been *excluded*, because they don't know the jargon the writer is using. Michael's tale wasn't exclusionary; it was inclusive. He used ordinary language, the way he heard it spoken around him at the time, and he used it well to weave a story that said Ya'll come on in, now. Sit yerselves down while I make us some icetea. One of the things I'm most grateful to the Fred Lenz - Rama guy for is for his command of the English language and how to use it. He taught that skill explicitly in his talks to his students, and he demonstrated it in his own public talks. Some of Rama's students liked the talks he'd give where he got into really esoteric or occult shit, subjects that really did require some jargon and were obviously only for my students. I liked his intro lectures. The esoteric talks, given to students who all knew Jargon As A Second Language, were great because he could skip the definitions and use just the jargon as shorthand, and as a time-saver. He could get into some really, really interesting subjects in these just for students talks. But it was the intro lectures that were High Art. There, he'd get into the *same* interesting subjects, only this time using metaphors like going to the movies and going to work and stuff like that, things that people knew and identified with. His intros were in almost all cases jargon-free, and that's what's so interesting in retrospect. He didn't *need* the jargon to discuss these same interesting subjects -- he found a way to do it *without jargon*, and in language that actually reached the people he was talking to. There are legitimate uses for spiritual jargon. But if you use them in your writing, you're limiting your audience. I guess that's all I'm saying. By relying on jargon that they don't explain, some writers are IMO being more than a little elitist in their approach. They are expecting their audience to know all these jargon words and buzzphrases, and respecting them so little that they don't even bother to translate them back into English as they go. I think that's rude. When I encounter seekers and teachers from spiritual traditions I haven't encountered before and they start talking in non-stop jargon, I have a little trick that I sometimes do. After a particularly long jargonfest, I stop them and ask them politely, Could you repeat that in English, without using any jargon or buzzwords this time? You'd be amazed at how many actually CAN'T. Some actually get angry, and accuse me of asking them to (a literal quote I've heard several times) Speak down to the level of my audience. What made them think they were above them in the first place? If you're talkin' neuroscience to a bunch of neuroscientists, you can get away with using a lot of neuroscience jargon. No one in the audience feels left out, because they understand it all. But if you talk to the same audience and start peppering your talk with, say, Jyotish jargon buzzwords that they don't understand, they're going to start fidgeting in their seats
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
Once being driven from the airport in Frankfurt to a lecture Maharishi commented on the high standards of the Autobahn. And who built the first Autobahns ? That's right; the Nazis. His denouncers, the impatient guru-shoppers torn in different directions in life due to the dominance of rajas, now largely into various Buddhist techniques of feeling the body such as mindfulness and other such childlike practices claim this comment from a Guru with a status rarely seen proves Maharishi was a supporter of Nazism. More than anything it shows how desperate the Maharishi-denouncers have become.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Followup to Share's post about eating insects
turq, not to get too jargony but eating insects, especially by humans, is called entomophagy. Not sure what flying insects is called. Maybe we could have a contest on FFL to devise a word for that (-: On Friday, January 24, 2014 2:32 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Don't eat them...fly them: http://digg.com/video/this-10-second-animation-is-bound-to-make-you-smile
[FairfieldLife] Re: Followup to Share's post about eating insects
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, not to get too jargony but eating insects, especially by humans, is called entomophagy. Not sure what flying insects is called. Maybe we could have a contest on FFL to devise a word for that (-: Allow me to be the first to suggest Bugic Flying. :-) :-) :-) On Friday, January 24, 2014 2:32 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Don't eat them...fly them: http://digg.com/video/this-10-second-animation-is-bound-to-make-you-smil\ e http://digg.com/video/this-10-second-animation-is-bound-to-make-you-smi\ le
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
Seraph, one hears all sorts of interesting spiritual tidbits when one lives in FF. The tidbits are as if floating in the air, swimming in the puddles of melting snow, etc. I don't remember that there was an explanation but it made sense to me given that the feminine is the receptive in the act of intimate congress. However your idea is intriguing also. And your insight is practical. On Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:34 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Re Share's Also, and more importantly, I believe that a woman takes on a man's karma when they have intercourse.: That's an intriguing speculation. Where have you encountered that suggestion before? (And why shouldn't a man take on a woman's karma when a couple make love?) Of course, the idea of a man and woman taking on each other's karmas can be used to make a case for fidelity in sexual relationships and to argue against promiscuity.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Followup to Share's post about eating insects
You bad but LOL anyway! On Friday, January 24, 2014 6:04 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, not to get too jargony but eating insects, especially by humans, is called entomophagy. Not sure what flying insects is called. Maybe we could have a contest on FFL to devise a word for that (-: Allow me to be the first to suggest Bugic Flying. :-) :-) :-) On Friday, January 24, 2014 2:32 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Don't eat them...fly them: http://digg.com/video/this-10-second-animation-is-bound-to-make-you-smile
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Followup to Share's post about eating insects
PS I LOVE the word entomophagy and find myself strangely frustrated by the fact that I've not heard it spoken. I checked out the dictionary for the auditory clues as to pronunciation and found those mysteriously unhelpful. Ok, will now google and I just bet I can find someone saying it! PPS I have never knowingly eaten a bug. OTOH, I have not been horrified by the possibility that I have eaten one. I figure there are already tons of bugs in my tummy. What's one more? On Friday, January 24, 2014 6:15 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: You bad but LOL anyway! On Friday, January 24, 2014 6:04 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, not to get too jargony but eating insects, especially by humans, is called entomophagy. Not sure what flying insects is called. Maybe we could have a contest on FFL to devise a word for that (-: Allow me to be the first to suggest Bugic Flying. :-) :-) :-) On Friday, January 24, 2014 2:32 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Don't eat them...fly them: http://digg.com/video/this-10-second-animation-is-bound-to-make-you-smile
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Followup to Share's post about eating insects
I LOVE Internet! http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/places/culture-places/food/us_insects/ On Friday, January 24, 2014 6:20 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: PS I LOVE the word entomophagy and find myself strangely frustrated by the fact that I've not heard it spoken. I checked out the dictionary for the auditory clues as to pronunciation and found those mysteriously unhelpful. Ok, will now google and I just bet I can find someone saying it! PPS I have never knowingly eaten a bug. OTOH, I have not been horrified by the possibility that I have eaten one. I figure there are already tons of bugs in my tummy. What's one more? On Friday, January 24, 2014 6:15 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: You bad but LOL anyway! On Friday, January 24, 2014 6:04 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, not to get too jargony but eating insects, especially by humans, is called entomophagy. Not sure what flying insects is called. Maybe we could have a contest on FFL to devise a word for that (-: Allow me to be the first to suggest Bugic Flying. :-) :-) :-) On Friday, January 24, 2014 2:32 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Don't eat them...fly them: http://digg.com/video/this-10-second-animation-is-bound-to-make-you-smile
[FairfieldLife] Tremendous article about the most inaccessible man on earth
http://www.esquire.com/features/who-is-this-bob-dylan-interview-0214?cli\ ck=promo http://www.esquire.com/features/who-is-this-bob-dylan-interview-0214?cl\ ick=promo Tremendous article from Esquire by Tom Junod about the *real* most interesting man on earth and why, after 50 years, two autobiographies, 35 albums, thousands of interviews and tens of thousands of performances, we still know nothing about him. Two of my favorite quotes: Bob Dylan is either the most public private man in the world or the most private public one. Dylan is not just the first and greatest intentional rock 'n' roll poet. He's also the first great rock 'n' roll asshole. The poet expanded the notion of what it was possible for a song to express; the asshole shrunk the notion of what it was possible for the audience to express in response to a song.
[FairfieldLife] This is the fellow who contested the will of Guru Dev
Long championed by the Maharishi-denouncers in the West to be entitled to not only 1 but 2 Shankaracharya seats ! As the Americans say: Go figure ! :-) http://ibnlive.in.com/news/senior-priest-slaps-journalist-on-being-asked-about-narendra-modi/447283-37-64.html http://ibnlive.in.com/news/senior-priest-slaps-journalist-on-being-asked-about-narendra-modi/447283-37-64.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Religion that doesn't take itself deadly seriously
Also, and more importantly, I believe that a woman takes on a man's karma when they have intercourse. Sounds like pure 24 karat bullshit, to me, derived from sexual repression, and a desire to escape the mundane existence of a dull nervous system. No offense.:-) Before Awakening, people will do and say anything in the quest for Liberation, and fail completely at ALL of it. After Awakening, despite any attempts to climb back into the aforementioned cage, it will be found to be utterly impossible - Instead, success becomes inevitable, in any domain, as that is the practical definition of Awakening, Enlightenment and Liberation. So this discussion of spiritual experiences from those Terrified To Wake Up, is pretty much worthless. Happy 2014!!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraph, one hears all sorts of interesting spiritual tidbits when one lives in FF. The tidbits are as if floating in the air, swimming in the puddles of melting snow, etc. I don't remember that there was an explanation but it made sense to me given that the feminine is the receptive in the act of intimate congress. However your idea is intriguing also. And your insight is practical. On Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:34 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: Re Share's Also, and more importantly, I believe that a woman takes on a man's karma when they have intercourse.: That's an intriguing speculation. Where have you encountered that suggestion before? (And why shouldn't a man take on a woman's karma when a couple make love?) Of course, the idea of a man and woman taking on each other's karmas can be used to make a case for fidelity in sexual relationships and to argue against promiscuity.
[FairfieldLife] RE: This is the fellow who contested the will of Guru Dev
After watching the video, perhaps the monkey was hungry for a banana, and thought the reporter's microphone was edible. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Long championed by the Maharishi-denouncers in the West to be entitled to not only 1 but 2 Shankaracharya seats ! As the Americans say: Go figure ! :-) http://ibnlive.in.com/news/senior-priest-slaps-journalist-on-being-asked-about-narendra-modi/447283-37-64.html http://ibnlive.in.com/news/senior-priest-slaps-journalist-on-being-asked-about-narendra-modi/447283-37-64.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie review: Saving Mr. Banks
yeah, noozguru, I think that post of yours went in deep. I actually did not enjoy Saving Mr. Banks though I love Emma Thompson and I thoroughly enjoyed the character of her chauffeur. Spoiler alert: I think Ginty's Dad was embodied in two of Travers' fictional characters: Mr. Banks, of course. But I also think the character of Bert was inspired by her Dad. On Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:43 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: What about that Harlan Ellison review on YouTube I pointed to a month ago? And we get to thank Disney for the lame DMCA, oh eyepatch. ;-) On 01/23/2014 01:08 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: This is a strange movie for *me* to be reviewing, and even stranger to be reviewing positively, but react to it positively I did. After all, it's a Disney movie, and worse, it's *about* Walt Disney, someone whose sensibilities with regard to fairy tales and the dilution of them I do not admire. And yet. I was charmed by many things in this film. I felt that the script was wonderfully written, and directed just as well. And there have been exactly *zero* other films this year that knocked my socks off by the strength of their ensemble performances the way this one did. The combination of Emma Thompson as the irascible P.L. Travers, arguing tooth and nail with Walt Disney (Tom Hanks, better than I would have imagined) over whether she was going to give him the film rights to her book Mary Poppins are pretty much unbeatable from start to finish. Add to them Paul Giamatti as her limo driver in L.A., Colin Farrell as her father in flashbacks, and Annie Rose Buckley as Travers herself as a child, and this is pretty much a dream cast, crafting a dream. Yes, it's schmaltzy, yes, it's a bit of a tearjerker in parts, and yes, it's manipulative. But it *works*, and it's a damned pity that the Academy Awards chose to ignore it, except for its musical score. The Golden Globes, to their credit, at least nominated Emma Thompson as Best Actress, and in my opinion she acted circles around any of the other nominees, or at least the ones whose films I've seen so far. The real P.L. Travers was supposedly a total bitch who, according to her own adoptive grandchildren, died loving no one and with no one loving her. This film showed a better side of her, one that I wish the old tyrant had gotten to see in life. If she had, she might have lightened up a bit and learned to laugh at herself a bit more, and thus had a happier life.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Jargon As A Second Language: how it impedes spiritual communication
Nice little rap. It is something I notice on the Batgap chat site. There are some correspondents (as Richard would say), who really nail that jargon. I have to say it always sounds good, but I ask myself, could it not be said more simply? There is basically no state of consciousness or experience they haven't had. If suddenly a hidden lecture of Maharishi's surfaced about, say, Brahman-in Loka 7, they would have been there, and could speak authoritatively about it. For all I know, maybe they are living those realities! But I find after only a few sentences, I get pretty bored. You get that same thing with David Spero, (sorry no link, kind of rushing this morning). I know he has a Batgap interview, (which I haven't seen), but every so often I check into his website to see a few minutes of his talks. On the other hand, there's much I don't know about the upper echelons of spirituality, that maybe they all have arrived as they seem to indicate. The most spiritual thing I've seen in the last couple years was the video Ann posted about Ann ___ who can dial into the thinking and feeling of animals. If I have any spiritual tingling in my life, it would be along those lines. I do feel an affinity with the animal world, including insects, but nothing like she has. I'd be like comparing a kindergartner to a college grad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: Michael's story about a Death Watch, Southern-Style really inspired me this morning. It reached me. It got me interested in the characters and the scenario and how things were gonna turn out...even though that was a little telegraphed by the title. :-) Being me, I started thinking about this in terms of some recent posts that have discussed the writing of stories about spiritual experience. Some of the tales of power I've read from seekers on many paths reached me, and some didn't. In some cases there was too much Look at me in the tales I didn't like, too much attention-seeking on the part of the storyteller, and that -- for me -- is a bit of a turnoff. But more often in the tales I didn't like, the issue was language, and in particular the overuse of spiritual jargon. Jargon has its uses. If you're dealing with a concept that really doesn't much exist for most of the people in your audience, it's fine IMO to give it a name. The first time a spiritual teacher does this, he or she also gives a talk about what that name or term *means*. If it's a term that comes up in his or her teaching often, over time the students no longer need the explanations or definitions every time they hear the term. They hear karma and *don't* hear in their heads Huh? They begin to hear karma and immediately associate the term with everything they've been told about it by their teacher. Nothing wrong with this so far, IMO. It's when the students go out and try to talk to non-students that the issue of Jargon As A Second Language comes up. If these same students try to give a lecture or write a story that is peppered with the jargon they've come to be so familiar with that they don't even *notice* when they're using it, then they often lose their audience. If every other word is karma this, or dosa that, or purusha somethingorother, all interjected with no definitions of the terms, IMO the storyteller is *limiting* his audience. And in most cases, losing them. They've been *excluded*, because they don't know the jargon the writer is using. Michael's tale wasn't exclusionary; it was inclusive. He used ordinary language, the way he heard it spoken around him at the time, and he used it well to weave a story that said Ya'll come on in, now. Sit yerselves down while I make us some icetea. One of the things I'm most grateful to the Fred Lenz - Rama guy for is for his command of the English language and how to use it. He taught that skill explicitly in his talks to his students, and he demonstrated it in his own public talks. Some of Rama's students liked the talks he'd give where he got into really esoteric or occult shit, subjects that really did require some jargon and were obviously only for my students. I liked his intro lectures. The esoteric talks, given to students who all knew Jargon As A Second Language, were great because he could skip the definitions and use just the jargon as shorthand, and as a time-saver. He could get into some really, really interesting subjects in these just for students talks. But it was the intro lectures that were High Art. There, he'd get into the *same* interesting subjects, only this time using metaphors like going to the movies and going to work and stuff like that, things that people knew and identified with. His intros were in almost all cases jargon-free, and that's what's so interesting in retrospect. He didn't *need* the jargon to discuss these same interesting subjects -- he found a way to do it *without jargon*, and in
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Death Watch
On 1/23/2014 7:02 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: at least the cousins that are still alive You didn't eat the cousins yet? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
On 1/23/2014 7:21 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I was speaking somewhat in jest So, you told a fib - do you know what happens to people who post lies and fabrications on this forum? LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
On 1/23/2014 7:22 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: and I am willing to bet some of those talks were recorded on audio if not video How much would you be willing to wager? Has anyone ever heard a recording of MMY praising Hitler or Mussolini?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jargon As A Second Language: how it impedes spiritual communication
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Nice little rap. It is something I notice on the Batgap chat site. There are some correspondents (as Richard would say), who really nail that jargon. I have to say it always sounds good, but I ask myself, could it not be said more simply? There is basically no state of consciousness or experience they haven't had. If suddenly a hidden lecture of Maharishi's surfaced about, say, Brahman-in Loka 7, they would have been there, and could speak authoritatively about it. For all I know, maybe they are living those realities! But I find after only a few sentences, I get pretty bored. I know how you feel. Especially the new knowledge suddenly, overnight being the everyday reality of the people who've just heard it the day before thang. If Maharishi had suddenly announced DC (Dweezil Consciousness, y'know...higher than all the rest) they'd immediately be able to discourse knowingly about DC and what it's like to be there. Just for the edification of us rubes who (sadly) aren't there yet, of course. :-) You get that same thing with David Spero, (sorry no link, kind of rushing this morning). I know he has a Batgap interview, (which I haven't seen), but every so often I check into his website to see a few minutes of his talks. Don't know him. I've certainly seen the same thing in many orgs, both in the teachers and in their students. It's more forgivable IMO in the students. On the other hand, there's much I don't know about the upper echelons of spirituality, that maybe they all have arrived as they seem to indicate. And maybe the self they no longer have just wants to be appreciated for Having Arrived at selflessness. :-) The most spiritual thing I've seen in the last couple years was the video Ann posted about Ann ___ who can dial into the thinking and feeling of animals. If I have any spiritual tingling in my life, it would be along those lines. I do feel an affinity with the animal world, including insects, but nothing like she has. I'd be like comparing a kindergartner to a college grad. I haven't seen it, and haven't had very many experiences of that sort myself. The most powerful ones were with birds of prey. They just lock eyes with you and won't look away, and if you hold that gaze you (or at least I) can convince yourself that you're getting a hit on what they're thinking, and how they think. I've seen a weird thing around the Rama guy that I have no explanation for. To me it feels a lot like how he described it -- transmission. What would happen was that we'd be late into a center meeting or out in the desert in the wee hours of the night, after literally hours of meditation and talks, and he'd just say Watch. Then he'd either meditate, or dance around, or whatever, with no setup. Often there would be no subsequent explanation, only a passing That was a new teaching. Afterwards, as I walked around and overheard students talking amongst themselves on the break of after the gathering, I'd lurk and listen to what they were saying. Often -- and often to my surprise -- they were describing the same experiences I would have. And using the same language. It was (subjectively) as if packets of data had been downloaded to each of us, silently. It was just the damnedest thing, and as I say I can't explain how it happened, only that it did, with some frequency. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: Michael's story about a Death Watch, Southern-Style really inspired me this morning. It reached me. It got me interested in the characters and the scenario and how things were gonna turn out...even though that was a little telegraphed by the title. :-) Being me, I started thinking about this in terms of some recent posts that have discussed the writing of stories about spiritual experience. Some of the tales of power I've read from seekers on many paths reached me, and some didn't. In some cases there was too much Look at me in the tales I didn't like, too much attention-seeking on the part of the storyteller, and that -- for me -- is a bit of a turnoff. But more often in the tales I didn't like, the issue was language, and in particular the overuse of spiritual jargon. Jargon has its uses. If you're dealing with a concept that really doesn't much exist for most of the people in your audience, it's fine IMO to give it a name. The first time a spiritual teacher does this, he or she also gives a talk about what that name or term *means*. If it's a term that comes up in his or her teaching often, over time the students no longer need the explanations or definitions every time they hear the term. They hear karma and *don't* hear in their heads Huh? They begin to hear karma and immediately associate the term with everything they've been told about it by their teacher. Nothing wrong with this so far, IMO. It's when the students go out and try to talk to non-students that the issue of Jargon As A Second Language comes up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death Watch
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 1/23/2014 7:02 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: at least the cousins that are still alive You didn't eat the cousins yet? Go figure. OK, now that's funny. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death Watch
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 1/23/2014 7:02 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: at least the cousins that are still alive You didn't eat the cousins yet? Go figure. OK, now that's funny. :-) Then again, maybe I've just been watching too much Justified and True Detective. Both series are taking me back to what it was like to grow up in the American South. The landscapes of back-country Louisiana and Kentucky are so *familiar* to me that part of me feels at home every time I see them. Even the shanty town houses are familiar. And the ways that people talk to each other, and relate...that's a real Southern thing, one that Michael captured well in his story. In Justified, you really can imagine Boyd Crowder chowing down on one of his own cousins who'd betrayed him in a drug deal.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie review: Saving Mr. Banks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: yeah, noozguru, I think that post of yours went in deep. I actually did not enjoy Saving Mr. Banks though I love Emma Thompson and I thoroughly enjoyed the character of her chauffeur. Harlan's rant did not sink in deep for me, and thus didn't prejudice my viewing of the movie in any way. Partly it's because I've interacted with Harlan Ellison in real life, know his tendency *to* rant, and also know that many of his rants can be reduced to I didn't like this story because it's not the way *I* would have told it. Harlan is nothing if not narcissistic, petty, and jealous. That said, he is also severely limited by the buttons that are so easy to push in him. He was IMO *unable* to step out of how he would have seen this famous confrontation between Travers and Disney and see it as a screenplay on its own, examining one person's view of the confrontation. I was, and thus was able to appreciate it in the same way that I appreciate Immortal Beloved. That is, as a fantasy or theory about someone famous -- pure fiction, just done well, and coherent within its own space. We'll never know if the real-life Beethoven was driven by the things that the writer of Immortal Beloved projected onto him, but it doesn't matter, because the projection itself was so masterful and beautiful. Similarly, we'll never know what the real-life reasons Travers had for writing Mary Poppins were, but the writer of Saving Mr. Banks created IMO a pretty compelling set of theories about them. IMO *all* biographies and *all* autobiographies are fiction. You know that going in. They are *not* fact. They're the story of an individual told from a particular point of view. There are other POVs. So the game is not *about* whether it's true to life. No one has a source for what true to life entails, or access to an objective POV on the subject. Thus the only criterion with which I approach these things are, Is it a good story? Does it stand on its own, and remain consistent to its own premises and assumptions? On Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:43 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: What about that Harlan Ellison review on YouTube I pointed to a month ago? And we get to thank Disney for the lame DMCA, oh eyepatch. ;-) On 01/23/2014 01:08 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: This is a strange movie for *me* to be reviewing, and even stranger to be reviewing positively, but react to it positively I did. After all, it's a Disney movie, and worse, it's *about* Walt Disney, someone whose sensibilities with regard to fairy tales and the dilution of them I do not admire. And yet. I was charmed by many things in this film. I felt that the script was wonderfully written, and directed just as well. And there have been exactly *zero* other films this year that knocked my socks off by the strength of their ensemble performances the way this one did. The combination of Emma Thompson as the irascible P.L. Travers, arguing tooth and nail with Walt Disney (Tom Hanks, better than I would have imagined) over whether she was going to give him the film rights to her book Mary Poppins are pretty much unbeatable from start to finish. Add to them Paul Giamatti as her limo driver in L.A., Colin Farrell as her father in flashbacks, and Annie Rose Buckley as Travers herself as a child, and this is pretty much a dream cast, crafting a dream. Yes, it's schmaltzy, yes, it's a bit of a tearjerker in parts, and yes, it's manipulative. But it *works*, and it's a damned pity that the Academy Awards chose to ignore it, except for its musical score. The Golden Globes, to their credit, at least nominated Emma Thompson as Best Actress, and in my opinion she acted circles around any of the other nominees, or at least the ones whose films I've seen so far. The real P.L. Travers was supposedly a total bitch who, according to her own adoptive grandchildren, died loving no one and with no one loving her. This film showed a better side of her, one that I wish the old tyrant had gotten to see in life. If she had, she might have lightened up a bit and learned to laugh at herself a bit more, and thus had a happier life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death Watch
Thanks Barry - that is high praise coming from a writer like you. I have a ton of great and true stories from my mother's side of the family, but if I ever tried to get them published, I'd have to move to the moon - we have lots of cousins still living that would be highly offended if I told tales of their momma's and daddies - drunks and thieves become saints after death, you know. On Fri, 1/24/14, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death Watch To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 7:58 AM Excellent story, Michael, and beautifully told. You bring back to me so many memories of childhood in the South, and the strangely mannered (but comforting) ways that people acted there. Your descriptions of the people, always including who they're related to the way that people in the South always do, are great, as are your descriptions of the food. Sometimes the only way we can come to terms with disturbing but formative experiences like this is to try to tell the story, as best we can. I think that's what made Garrison Keillor so good at what he did...he was a great storyteller, and you could tell that much of what he related on Prairie Home Companion were tales from *his* life, told as a way of not only sharing them with others, but coming to peace with them himself. Very nice. Deep bow. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I have told some funny stories, all true, here on FFL. This one is not so funny, but nonetheless still true. This happened when I was about six years old. And it was, and still stands today as a strange experience. It was one of my first experiences of death. I suppose I might have at that time experienced the death of a pet, but I don't remember it. So maybe I was unprepared for death, not having had much experience of it, but I had never seen nor heard of a death watch. My great, great Aunt Ola was dying. I don't know what she was dying of, but she damn sure didn't want to go. And all her kin people were there, watching, waiting for her to die. (Most everyone I knew then called her ain't Oler or if she wasn't their aunt, then they just called her Oler, rhymes with roller.) Ola and her husband lived near a town in North Carolina called Marshville. Marshville would become known as the birthplace of Randy Travis and parts of the Steven Spielberg film The Color Purple would be filmed there 35 or so years in the future, but all Marshville meant to me was the place we went to see my great grandmother, and this time to watch Aunt Ola die. The community was not named Marshville because some enterprising fools had drained a swamp to build the town, but rather for a couple of wealthy benefactors named Marsh who donated a good deal of land for a community center and a couple churches back around the beginning of the 20th century. It had once been a champion area for cotton in the pre and post Civil war days, and still was devoted to agriculture here in the early 1960's. Many of my kin in the area were farmers of one sort or another. It wasn't my intention to watch Aunt Ola die, but like all kids have to, I had to do what my folks told me to do. So I found myself wandering around in a very large old A frame house watching all the adults behave in as strange a fashion as I had ever witnessed. This old house had been the nexus of many a happy gathering and many a country Sunday meal, but now it was serving as hospice. Aunt Ola was pretty old, and it seemed the entire family had gathered to watch her die. Ola Little, my mother's great aunt had been married for years to Lee Hill, but he had been dead for some years by the time his wife seemed destined to join him in the afterlife. All her kids should have been by her side, watching her go to her reward, but some were absent. For one thing, she and her daughter Velma had fallen out over the land upon which we were standing at that moment and over the house Ola was dying in. Daughter Gladys had taken care of her momma for some years at this time and was slated to receive the house and farm in Ola's will, which is why Gladys and Velma didn't get along, and the reason Velma and husband Dusty weren't there at the death watch. They did not in fact even attend the funeral. The other kids may have been there, but I really didn't know who they were. All my great aunts and Uncles were there. Brice and Cara-Lou (that we all pronounced Carry-Lou), drunkard con artist Cecil and his enabling wife Marge, philandering drunk L.W. and his gorgeous wife Fay, upright Hoyle who made a living running a tobacco vending route servicing the cigarette needs of the community through the cigarette vending machines that were ubiquitous in those
[FairfieldLife] The Quaker Meditators in Fairfield, Iowa
The group meditations in Fairfield, Iowa were long, large and twice daily then. As the transcendental meditators generally arrived in Fairfield, Iowa during the mid and late 1970's and throughout the 1980's the Fairfield group meditations then were large and inclusive of the whole TM meditating community. The group meditations once facilitated in the 1980's by the TM organization were long, large and twice daily attended. Initially there was not need to have distinct Quaker meetings for worship separate from the long hours of the much larger corporate enterprise as the TM group meditations were facilitated in Fairfield, Iowa. Only very occasionally would the meditator-Quakers meet of their own being in Quaker Meeting as they were certainly in discipline as peace-activists otherwise in the long group meditations as meetings for worship as Quakers could recognized themselves within the TM group. It was only after some years when TM administration of the Dome meditation became exclusionary and the size of the Dome meditations declined that meditating-Quakers of Fairfield also added in a turning back to their own meditation schedule a Quaker Meeting to fill a vacuum created by communal purgings and depletion then of what had been the larger TM Dome meditation community. Since that time of the declines in the TM Dome meditation of the 1990's and 00's in Fairfield there has been sustained a regular schedule of old silent Quaker Meetings kept in an addition as their own Quaker's refuge of inclusive communal spirituality. Quaker Meeting for Worship, 17th Century. Entering into this form of worship. . “… the first that enters into the place of your meeting, be not careless, nor wander up and down either in body or mind, but innocently sit down in some place and turn in thy mind to the Light, and wait upon God (The Unified Field Transcendent) simply, as if none were present but the Lord, and here thou art strong. When the next that come in, let them in simplicity and heart sit down and turn to the same Light, and wait in the Spirit, and so all the rest coming in fear of the Lord sit down in pure stillness and silence of all flesh, and wait in the Light. A few that are thus gathered by the arm of the Lord into the unity of the Spirit, this is a sweet and precious meeting in which all are met with the Lord…. Those who are brought to a pure, still waiting on God in the Spirit are come nearer to God than words are… though not a word be spoken to the hearing of the ear. In such a meeting where the presence and power of God is felt, there will be an unwillingness to part asunder, being ready to say in yourselves, it is good to be here, and this is the end of all words and writings, to bring people to the eternal living word.” -1660 -Alexander Parker, Letters of Early Friends, ed. A.R. Barclay (London; Darton and Harvey, 1841), pp. 365-66. Alexander Parker was a close companion of George Fox. There is a principle which is pure, placed in the human mind, which in different places and ages hath had different names. It is, however, pure and proceeds from God (the Unified Field). It is deep and inward, confined to no forms of religion nor excluded from any, where the heart stands in perfect sincerity. In whomsoever this takes root and grows, of what nation soever, they become brethren. -John Woolman, Quaker 20th Century Quakers coming to Fairfield, Iowa in a form of spiritual direct-action peace-activism as re-enforcement joining with the large group meditations facilitated by Transcendental Meditation(TM) in Fairfield held a natural affinity to Quakers. To come as re-enforcement to the enterprise of what was identified then as the spiritual Meissner Effect (ME) of group consciousness had a recognized legitimacy to spiritual Quakerism. That corporate group spirituality is a Quaker practice that particularly attracted a number of old Quakers in to the TM movement early on. Initially upon coming to Fairfield, Iowa to re-enforce the aggregate numbers in meditation the old-style Quakers joined in alongside the TM meditations; as when in Rome do as the Romans do. This history in context now becomes an additional chapter in The Quakers of Iowa. See: http://iagenweb.org/history/qoi/QOITOC.htm http://iagenweb.org/history/qoi/QOITOC.htm The Quakers of Iowa A history of the Quaker settlement of Iowa including the nature of the under ground rail road in 19th Century Iowa. Written by Louis T. Jones, 1914 http://iagenweb.org/history/qoi/QOITOC.htm For sometime, the transcending meditation group practices of Quakers as the Society of Friends was a dominant spiritual practice in the settlement and cultivation of America and as so often has happened with Knowledge in sequence of time the now ancient silent transcendental Quaker practice fell crashing upon shoals of spiritually ignorant ideologies and the primitive
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Quaker Meditators in Fairfield, Iowa
well stated Buck thanks 4 deleting the offensive one from Ur reply post very up beat positive In a message dated 01/24/14 09:55:07 Eastern Standard Time, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com writes: The group meditations in Fairfield, Iowa were long, large and twice daily then. As the transcendental meditators generally arrived in Fairfield, Iowa during the mid and late 1970's and throughout the 1980's the Fairfield group meditations then were large and inclusive of the whole TM meditating community. The group meditations once facilitated in the 1980's by the TM organization were long, large and twice daily attended. Initially there was not need to have distinct Quaker meetings for worship separate from the long hours of the much larger corporate enterprise as the TM group meditations were facilitated in Fairfield, Iowa. Only very occasionally would the meditator-Quakers meet of their own being in Quaker Meeting as they were certainly in discipline as peace-activists otherwise in the long group meditations as meetings for worship as Quakers could recognized themselves within the TM group. It was only after some years when TM administration of the Dome meditation became exclusionary and the size of the Dome meditations declined that meditating-Quakers of Fairfield also added in a turning back to their own meditation schedule a Quaker Meeting to fill a vacuum created by communal purgings and depletion then of what had been the larger TM Dome meditation community. Since that time of the declines in the TM Dome meditation of the 1990's and 00's in Fairfield there has been sustained a regular schedule of old silent Quaker Meetings kept in an addition as their own Quaker's refuge of inclusive communal spirituality. Quaker Meeting for Worship, 17th Century. Entering into this form of worship. . “… the first that enters into the place of your meeting, be not careless, nor wander up and down either in body or mind, but innocently sit down in some place and turn in thy mind to the Light, and wait upon God (The Unified Field Transcendent) simply, as if none were present but the Lord, and here thou art strong. When the next that come in, let them in simplicity and heart sit down and turn to the same Light, and wait in the Spirit, and so all the rest coming in fear of the Lord sit down in pure stillness and silence of all flesh, and wait in the Light. A few that are thus gathered by the arm of the Lord into the unity of the Spirit, this is a sweet and precious meeting in which all are met with the Lord…. Those who are brought to a pure, still waiting on God in the Spirit are come nearer to God than words are… though not a word be spoken to the hearing of the ear. In such a meeting where the presence and power of God is felt, there will be an unwillingness to pa rt asunder, being ready to say in yourselves, it is good to be here, and this is the end of all words and writings, to bring people to the eternal living word.” -1660 -Alexander Parker, Letters of Early Friends, ed. A.R. Barclay (London; Darton and Harvey, 1841), pp. 365-66. Alexander Parker was a close companion of George Fox. There is a principle which is pure, placed in the human mind, which in different places and ages hath had different names. It is, however, pure and proceeds from God (the Unified Field). It is deep and inward, confined to no forms of religion nor excluded from any, where the heart stands in perfect sincerity. In whomsoever this takes root and grows, of what nation soever, they become brethren. -John Woolman, Quaker 20th Century Quakers coming to Fairfield, Iowa in a form of spiritual direct-action peace-activism as re-enforcement joining with the large group meditations facilitated by Transcendental Meditation(TM) in Fairfield held a natural affinity to Quakers. To come as re-enforcement to the enterprise of what was identified then as the spiritual Meissner Effect (ME) of group consciousness had a recognized legitimacy to spiritual Quakerism. That corporate group spirituality is a Quaker practice that particularly attracted a number of old Quakers in to the TM movement early on. Initially upon coming to Fairfield, Iowa to re-enforce the aggregate numbers in meditation the old-style Quakers joined in alongside the TM meditations; as when in Rome do as the Romans do. This history in context now becomes an additional chapter in The Quakers of Iowa. See: http://iagenweb.org/history/qoi/QOITOC.htm The Quakers of Iowa A history of the Quaker settlement of Iowa including the nature of the under ground rail road in 19th Century Iowa. Written by Louis T. Jones, 1914 http://iagenweb.org/history/qoi/QOITOC.htm For sometime, the transcending meditation group practices of Quakers as the Society of Friends was a dominant spiritual practice in the settlement and cultivation of America and as so often has happened with Knowledge in sequence of time the now
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie review: Saving Mr. Banks
turq, I especially like your point about critiquing any story by its own internal beauty rather than its adherence to facts which are well nigh impossible to ascertain, especially from the dim past. Spoiler alert: Anyway, I thought the movie was going to focus on a writer attempting to maintain the integrity of her creation. That appealed to me. I was disappointed that it focused so much on her childhood. I'm pretty sure that my main problem with the movie was that I had just about zero sympathy for Ginty's father. Definitely my bad... However, it is fascinating to me how she as if healed the rift between her father and her aunt by creating a harmonious relationship between Mary Poppins and Bert, who I think is the doppelganger of Mr. Banks. On Friday, January 24, 2014 7:55 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: yeah, noozguru, I think that post of yours went in deep. I actually did not enjoy Saving Mr. Banks though I love Emma Thompson and I thoroughly enjoyed the character of her chauffeur. Harlan's rant did not sink in deep for me, and thus didn't prejudice my viewing of the movie in any way. Partly it's because I've interacted with Harlan Ellison in real life, know his tendency *to* rant, and also know that many of his rants can be reduced to I didn't like this story because it's not the way *I* would have told it. Harlan is nothing if not narcissistic, petty, and jealous. That said, he is also severely limited by the buttons that are so easy to push in him. He was IMO *unable* to step out of how he would have seen this famous confrontation between Travers and Disney and see it as a screenplay on its own, examining one person's view of the confrontation. I was, and thus was able to appreciate it in the same way that I appreciate Immortal Beloved. That is, as a fantasy or theory about someone famous -- pure fiction, just done well, and coherent within its own space. We'll never know if the real-life Beethoven was driven by the things that the writer of Immortal Beloved projected onto him, but it doesn't matter, because the projection itself was so masterful and beautiful. Similarly, we'll never know what the real-life reasons Travers had for writing Mary Poppins were, but the writer of Saving Mr. Banks created IMO a pretty compelling set of theories about them. IMO *all* biographies and *all* autobiographies are fiction. You know that going in. They are *not* fact. They're the story of an individual told from a particular point of view. There are other POVs. So the game is not *about* whether it's true to life. No one has a source for what true to life entails, or access to an objective POV on the subject. Thus the only criterion with which I approach these things are, Is it a good story? Does it stand on its own, and remain consistent to its own premises and assumptions? On Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:43 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: What about that Harlan Ellison review on YouTube I pointed to a month ago? And we get to thank Disney for the lame DMCA, oh eyepatch. ;-) On 01/23/2014 01:08 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: This is a strange movie for *me* to be reviewing, and even stranger to be reviewing positively, but react to it positively I did. After all, it's a Disney movie, and worse, it's *about* Walt Disney, someone whose sensibilities with regard to fairy tales and the dilution of them I do not admire. And yet. I was charmed by many things in this film. I felt that the script was wonderfully written, and directed just as well. And there have been exactly *zero* other films this year that knocked my socks off by the strength of their ensemble performances the way this one did. The combination of Emma Thompson as the irascible P.L. Travers, arguing tooth and nail with Walt Disney (Tom Hanks, better than I would have imagined) over whether she was going to give him the film rights to her book Mary Poppins are pretty much unbeatable from start to finish. Add to them Paul Giamatti as her limo driver in L.A., Colin Farrell as her father in flashbacks, and Annie Rose Buckley as Travers herself as a child, and this is pretty much a dream cast, crafting a dream. Yes, it's schmaltzy, yes, it's a bit of a tearjerker in parts, and yes, it's manipulative. But it *works*, and it's a damned pity that the Academy Awards chose to ignore it, except for its musical score. The Golden Globes, to their credit, at least nominated Emma Thompson as Best Actress,
[FairfieldLife] RE: Pope: Cultivating Consciousness is NOT the same thing as Morality.
Acquiring virtue. Did you know that hard-boiling eggs in water with some salt sprinkled in the boiling water helps make shucking the egg shells off easier? When did you acquire that particular lesson in life? From whom? You were born with that knowledge? When have you learned otherwise about spiritual virtue? The role of Civic virtue in spirituality? At school from teachers and books? From Parents? Guru or spiritual treacher? Church? A pastor? FFL list guidelines and moderators? Yahoo-groups guidelines? Just wondering, should we expect that developing consciousness would cultivate virtue? In the subtle bodies it seems that sin directly obstructs expansion of consciousness as spirituality. Virtue then in the human form develops the more pure spiritual experience of the Unified Field as the source of large nature. “Never do that which we know to be wrong.” “Don''t be unkind” and “love thy neighbor” hold powerful spiritual field effects that are fundamental to essential spiritual growth for individuals and communities. Rating people and groups against a scale of kindness and love is something we all do. Clearly some individuals do groups better than other other people and some groups are more spiritual than others. Are the virtues of kindness and loving learned and acquired in spiritual practice or innate coming with the DNA? What is your experience with virtue as spiritual practice and progress? Which comes first, spirituality or virtue? -Buck TM it seems never really quite equates expansion of consciousness with development of morality necessarily. There is some assertion about improved moral reasoning from the science research but not really moral development. TM seems to stay away from that equation. After this (1974) TM publication, morality and consciousness it seems never really run close together. Moral reasoning and consciousness yes, but not development of morality or virtue in the soul of character as consciousness development necessarily. The TM moral instruction at best was, Meditate twice a day, act and “Never do that which you know to be wrong”. Maharishi and the Pope evidently felt a similar way about consciousness, ethics and morality. Well, obviously there is virtue and there is vice, and there are our spiritual practice of discipline to free our soul of those indentations of the sheaths of the subtle system created of vice. Spiritually then, those Vāsanā of spiritual vice, usually given as wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony or in morality of 10 commandments. Unfortunately some people are brought up badly. Fortunate are those whom have good teachers who knew better and can give spiritual help. Then evidently in life service to others is the great virtue as it undoes vice. Seek good company. Do good. Come to a group transcending meditation near you. So says the science. By the Pope's spiritual description quoted as authority in the 1974 TM publication, consciousness development is quite evidently different from morality development. One could certainly contend by enumeration of long experience that in practice this is so, that moral reasoning is some set different from virtue as to the implementation of necessary spiritual morality in the development of consciousness. Though these two are evidently intertwined as spiritual practice. Future theologians of the Unified Field of next generations will sit with this as they review the virtue of moral leadership of our past and present TM.Org . I do hope for the best judgment and redemption even to all, -Buck in the Dome “This study was designed to investigate whether a positive relationship exists between the practice of the Transcendental Meditation (TM) technique and moral reasoning,” Paper 91, A Study of the Relationship of the Transcendental Meditation Program to Kohlberg's Stages of Moral Reasoning. Scientific Research on the Transcendental Meditation Program Collected Papers, Volume I, 1977 Editors, Orme-Johnson Farrow pp 727 The whole purpose of life is to gain enlightenment. Nothing else is significant compared to that completely natural, exalted state of consciousness. So always strive for that. Set your life around that goal. Don't get caught up in small things, and then it will be yours. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi = “When you speak of consciousness, you do not refer to the moral conscious: the very rigor of your methods ensures that you do not leave the strictly scientific domain which belongs to you. What you have in mind exclusively is the same faculty of perceiving and of reacting to perception, that is to say, the psychophysiological concept which constitutes one of the accepted meanings of the word 'consciousness.'” -(Pope Paul VI addressing a gathering of Scientists for the study of Brain and Conscious Experience, Rome 1964). Excerpt, The Psychobiology of Transcendental Meditation A Literature Review Kanellakos and Lukas
[FairfieldLife] Where Do the gods Exist?
They exist in our consciousness. That's why people see these subtle beings while in altered states of consciousness induced by drugs or while in the dream state of consciousness and in samadhi. IMO, this phenomenon cannot be ignored as a scientific fact nor be dismissed as a fantasy. As such, this phenomenon suggests that the higher spacial dimensions exist in human consciousness. IOW, the familiar space-time continuum seamlessly merges into the human states of consciousness.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Great Rock Hits of the Past
Robert Palmer [image: Inline image 1] Robert Palmer - Addicted To Love http://youtu.be/XcATvu5f9vE Motive 8 - Rare Steve Rodway remix 1997 http://youtu.be/tWIj8YLeUGk Simply Irresistible http://youtu.be/UrGw_cOgwa8 Letterman Live http://youtu.be/VvZcJ04k9Sw Bad Case Of Loving You - Live in Tokyo 1986 http://youtu.be/QNLfQkHQlE8 Respect Yourself - Live in Denmark 1995 http://youtu.be/af0XKu88YTE You Are in My System - Libe in Tokyo 1986 http://youtu.be/PkoAI83GgNU Palmer received a number of awards throughout his career, including two Grammy Awards for Best Male Rock Vocal Performance, an MTV Video Music Award, and was twice nominated for the Brit Award for Best British Male. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Palmerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Palmer_%28singer%29 Robert Palmer's Addicted to Love earned him a Grammy in 1987 for Best Rock Vocal Performance, Male, and a year before that he released an iconic music video featuring a bevy of fembot beauties. So where are the Robert Palmer girls today? 'The Robert Palmer Girls Today' Yahoo Music News: http://music.yahoo.com/video/robert-palmer-girls-todayhttp://music.yahoo.com/video/robert-palmer-girls-today-003611538.html On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: The Zombies [image: Inline image 1] She's Not There - Live 1965 http://youtu.be/aBdrDu9nq7Q Paul Atkinson Chris White Sebastian Santa Maria Hugh Grundy Keith Airey She's Not There - from the Moon Flower album by Santana, 1977 http://youtu.be/c7wNM30R2WI The Zombies are an English rock band, formed in 1962 in St Albans and led by Rod Argent (piano, organ and vocals) and Colin Blunstone (vocals). The group scored British and American hits in 1964 with She's Not There Their 1968 album, Odessey and Oracle, comprising twelve songs by the group's principal songwriters, Argent and Chris White, is ranked number 100 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time. Carlos Santana - Guitars Greg Walker - Vocals David Margen - Bass Tom Coster - Keys Graham Lear - Drums Pete Escovedo - Percussion Pablo Tellez - Percussion Paul Rekow - Percussion [image: Inline image 2] This classic Zombies album still in my record collection, 331/3 RPM vinyl - played once (near mint). Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zombies http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-timehttp://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-20120531/the-zombies-odessey-and-oracle-20120525 On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: [image: Inline image 1] Huey Lewis and the News - from the Sports Album http://youtu.be/gMa2coAIiuo I Want A New Drug - from the Sports Album http://youtu.be/N6uEMOeDZsA Hip To Be Square - From the album Fore! http://youtu.be/LB5YkmjalDg Workin' for a livin' - Live 1992 http://youtu.be/9N2CANatVYQ In 1993 I saw this band at a free concert in Zilker Park in Austin. Sweet! Huey Lewis and the News is an American pop rock band based in San Francisco, California. They had a run of hit singles during the 1980s and early 1990s, eventually scoring a total of 19 top-ten singles across the Billboard Hot 100, Adult Contemporary and Mainstream Rock charts. Their greatest success was in the 1980s with the number-one album, Sports, coupled with a series of highly successful MTV videos. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_Lewis_and_the_News On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Gene Vincent [image: Inline image 1] Be-Bop-A-Lula - Video http://youtu.be/AH4qCNjpY_k Vincent Eugene Craddock (February 11, 1935 - October 12, 1971), known as Gene Vincent, was an American musician who pioneered the styles of rock and roll and rockabilly. His 1956 top ten hit with his Blue Caps, Be-Bop-A-Lula, is considered a significant early example of rockabilly. He is a member of both the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the Rockabilly Hall of Fame. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Vincent On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Eddie Cochran [image: Inline image 1] Summertime Blues - Town Hall Party - 1959 http://youtu.be/Ti38LFY7x1Y C'mon Everybody 45 RPM vinyl recording http://youtu.be/7-71rZxFiRQ [image: Inline image 2] Edward Raymond 'Eddie' Cochran (October 3, 1938 - April 17, 1960) was an American musician. Cochran's rockabilly songs, such as C'mon Everybody and Summertime Blues. He experimented with multitrack recording and overdubbing even on his earliest singles, and was also able to play piano, bass and drums.[1] His image as a sharply dressed, rugged but good-looking young man with a rebellious attitude epitomized the stance of the 50s rocker, and in death he achieved an iconic status. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Cochran On Fri, Dec 27, 2013
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ah, Mother India
On 1/23/2014 7:38 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Not everyone in India is a gang rapist. Bawwy is a simple guy and doesn't do well with complexity. Plus, he loves to make the world a worse place to be. He lives for it, stir up the poop and encourage others to be at each other's throats. That's how he limps along. The TurquoiseB is a downer, fer sure!
[FairfieldLife] RE: Jargon As A Second Language: how it impedes spiritual communication
...something I notice on the Batgap chat siteI have to say it always sounds good, but I ask myself, could it not be said more simply? There is basically no state of consciousness or experience they haven't had Hey Steve - Maharishi was speaking from his own experience when he described his 7 states (which he amended to include life in Brahman as a further expression of enlightenment). The discussions I have with one other person on BatGap are in the context of how well, or not, our experience matches the descriptions of various states, as Brahman is inclusive of all of them. In that context, I find that the language used can sometimes sound like jargon, simply because everyone [having the discussion] already understands the experience of CC, or GC or UC. Nonetheless, I have discovered a lot by comparing notes. For example, through these discussions, it has become evident to me, that GC does not necessarily evolve from CC, as UC does, but is rather an expression more of subtle emotional development, vs. expansion of consciousness. I am really not sure what your beef is, except that you were possibly hoping for descriptions, put a different way, so that they would be more useful to your future achievement of them. However, if you simply follow the discussion for what it is - two people clarifying and discussing experiences, you won't get bored so quickly. Last, the only way you are going to get clarification of something, on the BatGap site, is to put on your big-boy pants and actually ask a question, or make a statement. Hope this helps. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Nice little rap. It is something I notice on the Batgap chat site. There are some correspondents (as Richard would say), who really nail that jargon. I have to say it always sounds good, but I ask myself, could it not be said more simply? There is basically no state of consciousness or experience they haven't had. If suddenly a hidden lecture of Maharishi's surfaced about, say, Brahman-in Loka 7, they would have been there, and could speak authoritatively about it. For all I know, maybe they are living those realities! But I find after only a few sentences, I get pretty bored. You get that same thing with David Spero, (sorry no link, kind of rushing this morning). I know he has a Batgap interview, (which I haven't seen), but every so often I check into his website to see a few minutes of his talks. On the other hand, there's much I don't know about the upper echelons of spirituality, that maybe they all have arrived as they seem to indicate. The most spiritual thing I've seen in the last couple years was the video Ann posted about Ann ___ who can dial into the thinking and feeling of animals. If I have any spiritual tingling in my life, it would be along those lines. I do feel an affinity with the animal world, including insects, but nothing like she has. I'd be like comparing a kindergartner to a college grad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: Michael's story about a Death Watch, Southern-Style really inspired me this morning. It reached me. It got me interested in the characters and the scenario and how things were gonna turn out...even though that was a little telegraphed by the title. :-) Being me, I started thinking about this in terms of some recent posts that have discussed the writing of stories about spiritual experience. Some of the tales of power I've read from seekers on many paths reached me, and some didn't. In some cases there was too much Look at me in the tales I didn't like, too much attention-seeking on the part of the storyteller, and that -- for me -- is a bit of a turnoff. But more often in the tales I didn't like, the issue was language, and in particular the overuse of spiritual jargon. Jargon has its uses. If you're dealing with a concept that really doesn't much exist for most of the people in your audience, it's fine IMO to give it a name. The first time a spiritual teacher does this, he or she also gives a talk about what that name or term *means*. If it's a term that comes up in his or her teaching often, over time the students no longer need the explanations or definitions every time they hear the term. They hear karma and *don't* hear in their heads Huh? They begin to hear karma and immediately associate the term with everything they've been told about it by their teacher. Nothing wrong with this so far, IMO. It's when the students go out and try to talk to non-students that the issue of Jargon As A Second Language comes up. If these same students try to give a lecture or write a story that is peppered with the jargon they've come to be so familiar with that they don't even *notice* when they're using it, then they often lose their audience. If every other word is karma this, or dosa that, or purusha somethingorother, all interjected with no
[FairfieldLife] Netflix is planning a substantial European expansion
After establishing an EU footprint in the U.K. and Ireland, the Nordic territories and, most recently, the Netherlands, 2014 Netflix truly goes big in Europe with Germany and France added to the U.K.group, will have a presence in Europe's three largest TV territories They plan to take costs up from the $8 to $18.95 per month Seems you do not need a way to change your IP address to an American address anymore http://jordanfried.com/how-to-watch-netflix-in-europe/ http://jordanfried.com/how-to-watch-netflix-in-europe/ Welcome to the world of binge watching..The addict vs the connoisseur
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
If Michael J has pointed out things M really said, this does not reflect on you Buck as a love of truth. Maharishi did really seem to have a totalitarian mindset, a top down, there is a king, under whom there are subjects, subject to the will of the king. If M praised Hitler and you would desire that it be lied about, either a lie of commission or a lie omission, why should I or anyone follow your advice? Gurus have warts. If what they have to teach has value, it is not because of their personal quirks, it is because what they teach has a value beyond individual concerns. You take what is of value, but if you push away an individual's dark side as if it did not exist, that is not realistic, that is self deception. Hitler's influence on the world was not very life supporting in the end. But there are those pearly teeth on the dead dog in the gutter. He was not a great artist, but he was a better artist than Winston Churchill, or Dwight Eisenhower, who also painted, as well as engineering Hitler's defeat. Maharishi seems to have appreciated his organising power, his penchant for order and systems, his top down style of management, which resembles more the Joseph Stalin school of management rather than say, Thomas Jefferson's preferences for individual freedom. In the interest of reality, I restored MJ's comments below (and by the way, taking offense shows a lack of stability, it means that others could use that characteristic to control your behaviour by pushing your buttons): ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling blaspheme that you may burn in hell for. As a practicing conservative Transcendental Meditation meditator and satisfied customer of the Maharishi, I am completely offended by your comments. I am going to delete your words from this thread right now to save you from your sin damaging your spiritual subtle system any further. Kindly, and of the Love that is the Natural Law of the Unified Field, your Friend, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Comments [restored] If they promise to show some of the old black and white videos of Marshy praising Hitler, I'll go on the course. I would love to see how well we would all transcend after watching Marshy praise Der Fuhrer and Mussolini, and Robert Mugabe, and Marcos - p'raps they'll show the video of Marshy denouncing England as a scorpion nation, that would be quite fun too - I'd love to watch that one whilst we have a bit of spotted dick or drowned baby. That would be lovely. On Thu, 1/23/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 10:43 PM We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend of deep relaxation with Transcendental Meditation This course is for those practising Transcendental Meditation who would like to experience an extended meditation programme. It is the ideal opportunity for anyone who has never been on a weekend course before to come and enjoy this deeply restful experience. Friday, 28th February to Sunday, 2nd March 2014 Deep rest to restore balanceDuring the weekend you will have the opportunity to deepen your experience of Transcendental Meditation. Through extended practice of Transcendental Meditation you can benefit from deep rest to create the perfect condition for the mind and body to throw off stress and fatigue, to restore balance, stay healthy and feel your own inner happiness. We will also guide you through some simple and easy Maharishi Yoga Asanas (postures) and Pranayama (breathing exercises) to complement your daily practice of Transcendental Meditation. To discover and understand more about your experiences during meditation there will be special videotapes with questions and answer sessions each day. This will also provide a deeper insight into the development of consciousness through Transcendental Meditation and the practical benefits of the programme. The venue The Transcendental Meditation residential course weekend will be at the De Vere’s Milton Hill House Hotel, Steventon, Oxfordshire. A beautiful conference and spa hotel set in 20 acres of tranquil parkland. Milton Hill House is a warm friendly and delightful blend of modern comfort and traditional style. Located just 13 miles from Oxford, it’s only 40 minutes by train from Paddington Station to the local station, Didcot Parkway, and a 10 minutes taxi ride to the hotel. If you plan to drive there is plenty of free car parking space in the hotel grounds. For more information on the hotel please visit:
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Advaita is about inherent freedom
emptybill: As usual, you are really only interested in spouting off what you have read. However, what you have read is not deep and comprehensive and it shows in your amateurish identifications of the influences between separate traditions. Get back to us when you get some time for reading and research. You don't get historical knowledge from gazing at your navel. According to many Indian scholars, Shankara and Gaudapada were crypto-Buddhists. Gaudapada incorporated aspects of Buddhism into Advaita in order to reinterpret the Upanishads and the Brahma Sutras. According to Sharma, the early commentators on the Brahma Sutras were all realists and/or pantheist realists, NOT monist idealism. In fact, many of the statements in Brahma Sutras can be taken to be dualist or quasi-dualist thinking. Nowhere in the Brahma Sutras of Badarayanya do we find any statement extolling Pure Consciousness as the one ultimate reality; nor any statement about non-origination; or any references to the four-corned negation; or any statement about maya's illusory markers; nor any reference to two truths of Nagarajuna. According to Raju, the fourth chapter of Gaudapada's Mandukya Karika — Alatasanti Prakarana — is very differnet from the other chapters - it shows direct a Mahayana Buddhist style of dialectic. Gaudapada shows the deepest respect for the Buddha whom he salutes repeatedly, and quotes freely from Vaasubandhu and Nagarjuna. Raju says that it was who bridged Buddhism and Vedanta. He took over the Buddhist doctrines that ultimate reality is pure consciousness and that the nature of the world is the four-cornered negation. That is why Shankara was severely criticized by Ramanuja, Madhva, and Nimbarka, because Shankara had become a closet-Buddhist, to the point of taking up the ochre robe and instituting a monastic system modeled after the Buddhist Sangha. Go figure. Excerpt from Mahayana Sutra Lankara by Asanga Maitreyanatha: Pure consciousness is the only Reality. By its nature, it is Self-luminous. (XIII, 13). Thus shaking off duality, he directly percieves the Absolute which is the unity underlying phenomena (dharmadatu) (VI, 7 - Sharma). Works cited: 'The Philosophical Traditions of India' by P.T. Raju University of Pittsburgh Press, 1972 p. 177. 'A Critical Survey of Indian Philosophy' by Chandrahar Sharma, M.A., D. Phil., D. Litt., LL.B., Shastri, Dept. of Phil., Benares Hindu U. Rider, 1960 pp. 112-113 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:39 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: As usual, you are really only interested in spouting off what you have read. However, what you have read is not deep and comprehensive and it shows in your amateurish identifications of the influences between separate traditions. You read about these influences from the common arena of discourse in India and then conclude that x causes y because of similar concerns in two traditions. Advaita means not-two. However, that does not mean that because the use the term advaita or advaya is used in multiple traditions that one of these traditions has caused, created or even influenced the view of the others. Kashmiri Trika is not and never has been influenced by Shankara's Kevela Advaita. What they share is a common Indian basis for philosophizing. You also know nothing about the pivitol question of causation in the development of Hinayana dharma-pluralism, Vijñanavada Ideationism and HwaYen's Tathata-Causation. This is a topic that was later very important in the refinement and development of Chan/Zen/Sön - both Linji and Caodong traditions. But then you must already know this because you are the professor who discourses upon everything you've read. You must be the ultimate embodiment of mutual-identity and interpenetration between absolute and relative. Hail to Professor P.Dog Willy ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Thanks for posting the information,but you failed to point out the similarities: Shankara's Advaita claims to be based on the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita and the Brahma Sutras, but many scholars such as Sharma and Raju have noted that Shankara shows many signs of influence from Mahayana Buddhism, Madhyamaka, founded by Nagarjuna, the Yogacara, founded by Vasubandhu and Asanga. Gaudapada incorporated aspects of Buddhism into Hindusim in order to reinterpret the Upanishads and the Brahma Sutras. 1. Gaudapada adapted the Buddhist concept of ajata, the doctrine of non-origination or non-creation, from Nagarjuna's Madhyamika. Ajata is the fundamental philosophical doctrine of Gaudapada. 2. Advaita Vedanta also adopted from the Madhyamika the idea of two levels of reality - two truths - absolute and relative. 3. Gaudapada and Shankara adopted almost all of the Buddhist dialectic, methodology, arguments and analysis, their concepts, their terminologies and even their philosophy of the Absolute. 4. Gaudapada embraced the Buddhist idea that the nature of the
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Advaita is about inherent freedom
Kashmiri Trika is not and never has been influenced by Shankara's Kevela Advaita. Kashmere Trika was incorporated into the Madukya Upanishad, Gaudapada and Shankara. In fact, many of the terms used in Kashmere Shaivism mean the very same thing as in the Gaudapada's karika and in Mandukya Upanaishad. In addition, with the exception of the concept of 'Maya', many of the terms used in Kashmere Shaivism mean the very same thing in the Adwaita Vedanta espoused by the Adi Shankaracharya. Kashmere Shaivism is a form of transcendental, realistic idealism; a form of absolute monism. According to Kashmere Shaivism, 'Cit' is pure consciousness - the One Reality, just like in Shankara's Advaita and in Vasubhandu's Vijnanavada. So, the question is: How did three different Indian systems all get the idealistic notion that consciousness was the one reality, at the same time? [image: Inline image 1] MMY with Laksmanjoo - Master of Kashmere Trika (TTC Kashmere) My theory is that the Buddhist Yogacara tradition was established up in Kashmere and was adopted by the Kasmere Tantrics. Then, whan Shankara was on pilgrimage to Kashmere he came under the influence of the Yogacara and took that knowledge back to India and established the Sri Vidya. Not for nothing is the Shankara math Sringeri named after Srinagar! Somehow the symbol Sri Yantra went from Kashmere to India. Now I ask you - who is famous for painting yantras and mandalas on silk to hang on the wall? Go figure. Kashmere Shaivism is called 'Trika' based on the three fundamental states of consciousness: 1. ja-grat - waking state 2. svapna - dreaming 3. sus.upti - dreamless sleep And, turiya - pure consciousness, is the fourth state of consciousness, 'turiya' which is pure consciousness. These are the three cities mentioned in the Sri Vidya Soundarya Lahari. According to Bernard, the Vedanta doctrine contends that there is only one ultimate reality which never changes; therefore the manifest world is an 'appearance' only. Kashmere Saivism contends that there is only one reality, but it has two aspects; therefore the manifestation is real. This is based on the argument that the effect cannot be different from its cause. The world of matter is only another form of consciousness. Swami Rama on the Mandukhya Upanishad: 2) Sarvam hyetad brahmayam-atma brahma soyamatma catushpat. Atman has Four Aspects: All of this, everywhere, is in truth Brahman, the Absolute Reality. This very Self itself, Atman, is also Brahman, the Absolute Reality. This Atman or Self has four aspects through which it operates. Work cited: 'Hindu Philosophy' The definitive sourcebook, in English, of the Six Systems of Indian Philosophy, by the author of Hatha Yoga, Penthouse of the Gods, and Heaven Lies Within Us. Comprehensive, erudite, scholarly. by Theos Bernard, Ph.D. Philosophical Publishing House 1947 'Enlightenment Without God' Mandukya Upanishad By Swami Rama Himalayan Institute Press, 1982 Other titles of interst: 'The Secret of the Three Cities' An Introduction to Hindu Sakta Tantrism By Douglas Renfrew Brooks University Of Chicago Press, 1998 'The Triadic Heart of Siva' Kaula Tantricism of Abhinavagupta in the Non-Dual Shaivism of Kashmir By Paul Eduardo Muller-Ortega State University of New York Press, 1989 Notes: 1. Kashmir Shaivism resembles Hindu tantra, and both have as their key symbol the Shri Yantra, as I previously posted, which was established by the Adi Shankara in Kashmere and at the four principle mathas - Sringeri, Puri, Jyotir, Dwarka, and at Kanchi. In Kashmere Shaivism, the 'aham' bija mantra is considered to be a non-dual interior space of Lord Shiva, which supports the entire manifestation. 'Aham' in Kashmere Shaivism is the 'Supreme' bija mantra and is identical to Shakti. It's the very same thing in the Hindu Tantras. 2. Samyama is activated subconsciously in non-structured form by any thinking activity and experiencing deep levels of trance induction or meditation. 'Samyama' is the combined, simultaneous practice of dharana, dhyana, and samadhi. That's TM! On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:39 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: As usual, you are really only interested in spouting off what you have read. However, what you have read is not deep and comprehensive and it shows in your amateurish identifications of the influences between separate traditions. You read about these influences from the common arena of discourse in India and then conclude that x causes y because of similar concerns in two traditions. Advaita means not-two. However, that does not mean that because the use the term advaita or advaya is used in multiple traditions that one of these traditions has caused, created or even influenced the view of the others. Kashmiri Trika is not and never has been influenced by Shankara's Kevela Advaita. What they share is a common Indian basis for philosophizing. You also know nothing about the pivitol question of causation in
[FairfieldLife] Robert Palmer and his Women
Bhairitu, This is the band that reminded me of the video that you made on YouTube. Robert Palmer was dressed in a black suit and so were the women in his band. http://music.yahoo.com/video/robert-palmer-girls-today-003611538.html http://music.yahoo.com/video/robert-palmer-girls-today-003611538.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
From some posts I copied from FFL: A Swiss friend told me that several years ago she was on a course in Austria, and Satayand also characterized Hitler as a great leader. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@s... wrote: This is from a Jewish friend who was full-time in the TMO for many years, including Purusha and International Staff in Vlodrop and elsewhere. He's now with a different teacher. We've been having a private discussion about this in recent days and I asked if I could post this. He said I could but asked that I not mention his name. Some time after being on Purusha, I discovered, to my great amazement, that some German Purusha were wearing swastikas under their ties, celebrating Hitler's birthday, and generally feeling very bully about the whole thing. I remembered what Frank Pappentine told me a few years back during our 6-month course in Arosa (we were good friends during that course): that Maharishi had met with the Germans in Seelisberg and told them that the Allies presented Hitler as a great demon to suppress the German morale, that the facts were different and that Hitler was, in fact, a good strong leader. I heard that from Maharishi myself, in Washington DC in 1983, when a reporter asked him what he thought of Hitler. He said, that Hitler was actually a good strong leader who unified Germany, it's just too bad that he did so much indiscriminate killing. On 07/31/2013 10:57 AM, martyboi wrote: 40 years ago I read a document in the TM center about The Absolute Theory of Greatness. In this document various people from history were mentioned. The premise, as I recall (and I could have this all wrong, due to time) was that from the perspective of the absolute, a person's impact on the world (Greatness) is based on how many people his life affects. Both Hitler and Alexander the great were mentioned. Nature allows a truly great person to live a very long time (108 years?) I believe Veda Vyasa was mentioned as the greatest. I could have this all wrong. Another person wrote: Yes, I seem to recall seeing such a document myself. In fact it was a subject of discussion at a teachers meeting with Charlie Lutes who was in town. I seem to recall that Charlie said Maharishi was told to back off on that because it would alienate a lot of Jewish supporters. On Fri, 1/24/14, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 4:48 PM If Michael J has pointed out things M really said, this does not reflect on you Buck as a love of truth. Maharishi did really seem to have a totalitarian mindset, a top down, there is a king, under whom there are subjects, subject to the will of the king. If M praised Hitler and you would desire that it be lied about, either a lie of commission or a lie omission, why should I or anyone follow your advice? Gurus have warts. If what they have to teach has value, it is not because of their personal quirks, it is because what they teach has a value beyond individual concerns. You take what is of value, but if you push away an individual's dark side as if it did not exist, that is not realistic, that is self deception. Hitler's influence on the world was not very life supporting in the end. But there are those pearly teeth on the dead dog in the gutter. He was not a great artist, but he was a better artist than Winston Churchill, or Dwight Eisenhower, who also painted, as well as engineering Hitler's defeat. Maharishi seems to have appreciated his organising power, his penchant for order and systems, his top down style of management, which resembles more the Joseph Stalin school of management rather than say, Thomas Jefferson's preferences for individual freedom. In the interest of reality, I restored MJ's comments below (and by the way, taking offense shows a lack of stability, it means that others could use that characteristic to control your behaviour by pushing your buttons): ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling blaspheme that you may burn in hell for. As a practicing conservative Transcendental Meditation meditator and satisfied customer of the Maharishi, I am completely offended by your comments. I am going to delete your words from this thread right now to save you from your sin damaging your spiritual subtle system any further. Kindly, and of the Love that is the Natural Law of the Unified Field, your Friend, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Comments [restored] If they promise to show some of the old black and white videos of Marshy praising Hitler,
[FairfieldLife] China Warns Foreign Planes
China has been belligerent lately with its neighboring countries, especially with its self-declared boundaries both in the air and at sea. This national attitude is understandable when one analyzes the national natal chart of China. Specifically, the country has a debilitated Mars in the 7th house which is making it angry and uncomfortable due to its perceived weakness against outsiders. It would not be advantageous to approach China through military threats or actions. It would only lead to war which would be a disaster for the world both in terms of human lives and economy. The best way to deal with China is to approach it through its strength, which is Venus in the 10th house. This means that China can be dealt with through sophisticated and bureaucratic diplomacy or negotiations pertaining to its growing economy. In particular, it would accept deals that are related to the significations for Venus, such as designer housing, clothing, luxury cars, and the fine arts. http://news.yahoo.com/china-warns-foreign-planes-entering-defense-zone-064540562.html http://news.yahoo.com/china-warns-foreign-planes-entering-defense-zone-064540562.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
Yes, I recall the audio and/or videos where Maharishi said this back in the 1970s plus one of those thick gold fringed books had the statement too. Of course there have been lots of tyrants who have unified countries and often at the point of a gun they hand to bullies in uniform. There's a thing about Indians that they somehow think that the rich *should* rule. Thus there was the Nehru dynasty which seems be trying to re-establish itself again. On 01/24/2014 10:50 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: From some posts I copied from FFL: A Swiss friend told me that several years ago she was on a course in Austria, and Satayand also characterized Hitler as a great leader. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@s... wrote: This is from a Jewish friend who was full-time in the TMO for many years, including Purusha and International Staff in Vlodrop and elsewhere. He's now with a different teacher. We've been having a private discussion about this in recent days and I asked if I could post this. He said I could but asked that I not mention his name. Some time after being on Purusha, I discovered, to my great amazement, that some German Purusha were wearing swastikas under their ties, celebrating Hitler's birthday, and generally feeling very bully about the whole thing. I remembered what Frank Pappentine told me a few years back during our 6-month course in Arosa (we were good friends during that course): that Maharishi had met with the Germans in Seelisberg and told them that the Allies presented Hitler as a great demon to suppress the German morale, that the facts were different and that Hitler was, in fact, a good strong leader. I heard that from Maharishi myself, in Washington DC in 1983, when a reporter asked him what he thought of Hitler. He said, that Hitler was actually a good strong leader who unified Germany, it's just too bad that he did so much indiscriminate killing. On 07/31/2013 10:57 AM, martyboi wrote: 40 years ago I read a document in the TM center about The Absolute Theory of Greatness. In this document various people from history were mentioned. The premise, as I recall (and I could have this all wrong, due to time) was that from the perspective of the absolute, a person's impact on the world (Greatness) is based on how many people his life affects. Both Hitler and Alexander the great were mentioned. Nature allows a truly great person to live a very long time (108 years?) I believe Veda Vyasa was mentioned as the greatest. I could have this all wrong. Another person wrote: Yes, I seem to recall seeing such a document myself. In fact it was a subject of discussion at a teachers meeting with Charlie Lutes who was in town. I seem to recall that Charlie said Maharishi was told to back off on that because it would alienate a lot of Jewish supporters. On Fri, 1/24/14, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 4:48 PM If Michael J has pointed out things M really said, this does not reflect on you Buck as a love of truth. Maharishi did really seem to have a totalitarian mindset, a top down, there is a king, under whom there are subjects, subject to the will of the king. If M praised Hitler and you would desire that it be lied about, either a lie of commission or a lie omission, why should I or anyone follow your advice? Gurus have warts. If what they have to teach has value, it is not because of their personal quirks, it is because what they teach has a value beyond individual concerns. You take what is of value, but if you push away an individual's dark side as if it did not exist, that is not realistic, that is self deception. Hitler's influence on the world was not very life supporting in the end. But there are those pearly teeth on the dead dog in the gutter. He was not a great artist, but he was a better artist than Winston Churchill, or Dwight Eisenhower, who also painted, as well as engineering Hitler's defeat. Maharishi seems to have appreciated his organising power, his penchant for order and systems, his top down style of management, which resembles more the Joseph Stalin school of management rather than say, Thomas Jefferson's preferences for individual freedom. In the interest of reality, I restored MJ's comments below (and by the way, taking offense shows a lack of stability, it means that others could use that characteristic to control your behaviour by pushing your buttons): ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling blaspheme that you may burn in hell for. As a practicing conservative Transcendental Meditation meditator and satisfied customer of the Maharishi, I am completely offended by your comments. I am going to delete your words from this thread right now to save
[FairfieldLife] Una Noche
I've written about movies made in Cuba and here is a recently made one about some teenagers who try to flee the country via raft to Miami. Just for seeing what life is like in Cuba and not necessarily entirely because of the communist government but probably more due to stinky old rich Americans who won't let the US sanctions against the country be lifted. It's available on Netflix WI: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Una_Noche/70241252 Of course the stinky old rich Americans want to see the people of the US driven into similar poverty as found in Cuba. Then buy our properties for pennies on the dollar make us work off our debts in prisons.
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
Do notice that all this gossip is from people who have left the Movement and might hold several grunges towards it. That Rick Archer post negativity here from anonymous friends is nothing new and will happen again.
[FairfieldLife] Now you too can be a guru
You too can be a guru with the new web domain extension .guru. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-new-internet-addresses-20140124,0,1802905.story Better grab one now, Willy. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where Do the gods Exist?
On 1/24/2014 9:54 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Where Do the gods Exist? How many gods are there Yajnavalkya? He answered,...As many as are mentioned in the Hymn to All the Gods, namely, three hundred and three, and three thousand and three.. Yes, but just how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya? Thirty-three. Yes, but just how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya? Three. Yes, but just how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya? One and a half. Yes, but just how many gods are there, Yajnavalkya? One. - Brih. Up. iii, 9
[FairfieldLife] RE: We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
They get an invitation from the Grand Master of Fabrications Himself to do an interview at Batgap ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Classical Masterpieces
We enjoyed the San Antonio Symphony's performance of Dvorak Seventh Symphony at the restored old Majestic Theater theater downtown. Featuring Nancy Zhou as soloist on Dvorak's Violin Concerto, under the direction of Music Director Sebastian Lang-Lessing. [image: Inline image 1] Symphony No. 7 in D minor, Op. 70, B. 141 III. Scherzo Bernard Haitink, Concertgebouw Orchestra of Amsterdam http://youtu.be/jVzpGcF5PSs The movement starts with intense calm and peace, but also includes turmoil and unsettled weather. He told his publisher that there is not one superfluous note. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._7http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._7_%28Dvo%C5%99%C3%A1k%29 Read more: 'S.A. Symphony delivers glowing Dvorák Seventh Symphony' San Antonio Express-News: http://www.mysanantonio.com/Dvor-k-Seventhhttp://www.mysanantonio.com/default/article/S-A-Symphony-delivers-glowing-Dvor-k-Seventh-5158227.php On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Antonin Dvorak [image: Inline image 1] Carnaval Op 92 Ouverture Zubin Mehta http://youtu.be/KREp0VTtKMk Symphony No.9 - New York Philharmonic 4/4 (HD) Lorin Maazel, conductor New York Philharmonic, 2004 http://youtu.be/DlMPh3AtBZY Cello Concerto in B minor, Op. 104, B. 191 Allegro (B minor then B major) Mstislav Rostropovich, Cello; Seiji Ozawa conductor http://youtu.be/kVkjWftBZcs Slavonic Dance Number One Opus 46 In C Major Furiant - George Szell with the Cleveland Orchestra 1975 http://youtu.be/aKyf9CSHpAc Antonín Leopold Dvorak was a Czech composer. Following the nationalist example of Bedrich Smetana, Dvorak frequently employed features of the folk music of Moravia and his native Bohemia (then parts of the Austrian Empire and now constituting the Czech Republic). Among Dvorak's best known works are his New World Symphony. Read more: Antonin Dvorak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton%C3%ADn_Dvo%C5%99%C3%A1k On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Johann Sebastian Bach [image: Inline image 1] Toccata And Fugue In D Minor - Kurt Ison, Sydney Town Hall http://youtu.be/ipzR9bhei_o Johann Sebastian Bach was a German composer, organist, harpsichordist, violist, and violinist of the Baroque period. He enriched established German styles through his skill in counterpoint, harmonic and motivic organisation, and the adaptation of rhythms, forms, and textures from abroad, particularly from Italy and France. He is now generally regarded as one of the main composers of the Baroque period, and as one of the greatest composers of all time. His most famous work is the Toccata And Fugue In D Minor. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Sebastian_Bach On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky [image: Inline image 1] 1812 Overture - Leningrad Phil. Itzhak Perlman http://youtu.be/cEkTZ5zlGRw Peterr Ilyich Tchaikovsky was a Russian composer whose works included symphonies, concertos, operas, ballets, chamber music, and a choral setting of the Russian Orthodox Divine Liturgy. Some of these are among the most popular theatrical music in the classical repertoire. Tchaikovsky wrote many works which are popular with the classical music public, including his Romeo and Juliet, the 1812 Overture, his three ballets, The Nutcracker, Swan Lake, The Sleeping Beauty, and Marche Slave. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Ilyich_Tchaikovsky On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Johann Strauss II [image: Inline image 1] The Blue Danube Waltz - Vienna Philharmonic - Vals del Danubio Azul http://youtu.be/_CTYymbbEL4 Tales from the Vienna Woods - Brazil Orquestra Filarmônica, Belo Horizonte http://youtu.be/MaOVp8FfGRo Johann Strauss II was an Austrian composer of light music, particularly dance music and operettas. He composed over 400 waltzes, polkas, quadrilles, and other types of dance music, as well as several operettas and a ballet. In his lifetime, he was known as The Waltz King, and was largely then responsible for the popularity of the waltz in Vienna during the 19th century. Some of Johann Strauss's most famous works include The Blue Danube, and Tales from the Vienna Woods. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Strauss_II On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Richard Wagner [image: Inline image 1] Rienzi Overture (Full) - The Symphony Orchestra of the LISZT School of Music, Weimar http://youtu.be/URIwWtwn6qA Wilhelm Richard Wagner was a German composer, theater director, polemicist, and conductor who is primarily known for his operas. Wagner revolutionized opera through his concept of the Gesamtkunstwerk (total work of art), by which he sought to synthesis the poetic, visual, musical and dramatic arts, with music
Re: [FairfieldLife] China Warns Foreign Planes
What China chart are you using? With the disruption of the global economy and climate one doesn't really need a horoscope to see things are falling apart. The real problem was the failure to accommodate a global population of 7 billion plus and the stinginess of a small number of stinky old billionaires and trillionaires who want to be control freaks. On 01/24/2014 11:15 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: China has been belligerent lately with its neighboring countries, especially with its self-declared boundaries both in the air and at sea. This national attitude is understandable when one analyzes the national natal chart of China. Specifically, the country has a debilitated Mars in the 7th house which is making it angry and uncomfortable due to its perceived weakness against outsiders. It would not be advantageous to approach China through military threats or actions. It would only lead to war which would be a disaster for the world both in terms of human lives and economy. The best way to deal with China is to approach it through its strength, which is Venus in the 10th house. This means that China can be dealt with through sophisticated and bureaucratic diplomacy or negotiations pertaining to its growing economy. In particular, it would accept deals that are related to the significations for Venus, such as designer housing, clothing, luxury cars, and the fine arts. http://news.yahoo.com/china-warns-foreign-planes-entering-defense-zone-064540562.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
Sorry Nabby, but irregardless of how folks feel about TM, many DO recall MMY saying the stuff about Hitler. Like I said, I feel it is mainly due to cultural differences. There are folks in India back in the 30's and 40s who thought that Nazism was a good thing and wrote about it. On 01/24/2014 11:25 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Do notice that all this gossip is from people who have left the Movement and might hold several grunges towards it. That Rick Archer post negativity here from anonymous friends is nothing new and will happen again.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where Do the gods Exist?
Like I said recently they are a *metaphor* as many an Indian intellectual will tell you. Remember that Maharishi liked to boil it down to the *absolute and relative*. That's known as the impersonal school. Some of us grabbed the free ISKCON books (that George Harrison paid for) and had fun reading Prabupad's railing against the impersonal school because we knew what particular organization he was railing against. On 01/24/2014 07:54 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: They exist in our consciousness. That's why people see these subtle beings while in altered states of consciousness induced by drugs or while in the dream state of consciousness and in samadhi. IMO, this phenomenon cannot be ignored as a scientific fact nor be dismissed as a fantasy. As such, this phenomenon suggests that the higher spacial dimensions exist in human consciousness. IOW, the familiar space-time continuum seamlessly merges into the human states of consciousness.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Now you too can be a guru
Holy Shit! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: You too can be a guru with the new web domain extension .guru. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-new-internet-addresses-20140124,0,1802905.story http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-new-internet-addresses-20140124,0,1802905.story Better grab one now, Willy. :-D
[FairfieldLife] RE: Now you too can be a guru
That's one of the new ones, .holyshit. Holy Shit! You too can be a guru with the new web domain extension .guru. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-new-internet-addresses-20140124,0,1802905.story http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-new-internet-addresses-20140124,0,1802905.story Better grab one now, Willy. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
Don't they have the idea of Truth shall set you free in Germany??? On Fri, 1/24/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 7:25 PM Do notice that all this gossip is from people who have left the Movement and might hold several grunges towards it. That Rick Archer post negativity here from anonymous friends is nothing new and will happen again.
[FairfieldLife] Messy fingers
A few years back I used to refill the ink cartridge for an HP 3500 which I had bought at Target for a mere $30. The cartridges themselves cost $32. It's the old razor/razor blade scam which unfortunately exists with most printers today. A couple years ago I got tired of the ink supposedly running out on my HP wireless printer so I opted to get a Kodak printer because they were boasting a better ink life and reviewers said it was true. The HP wireless printer seemed to run on a timer so after a few months even if you just printed 10 sheets it would say the cartridges needed replacement. The Kodak keeps a count of pages on their chip on the cartridge. That doesn't work so well when printing something like a web page or invoice that just happens to have just a blank page or maybe just the copyright notice (which you don't need). So this time around as the ink was getting low I ordered an ink refill kit that included some chips to replace the ones that hold the count on the cartridge. Note there are also some devices for sale on the Internet that can clear some chips of the count though there appears not be one for my printer model. So I set to work yesterday afternoon after printing out the one page of instruction from the PDF included on the CD that came with the kit. Funny thing was that page printing out fine but printing an addition all text page failed due to the black cartridge being out of ink (or so to say). Basically the instructions were for the XL cartridge so I was a little concerned that the chip might not work with the standard cheaper low use cartridge. What happened was ink did overflow out of the top which says the cartridge was NO WHERE NEAR out of ink. Worse yet the chip didn't want to clip into it's slot. Frustrated I grabbed another empty cartridge and instead of filling it with ink first tried replacing the chip first and it went right into place. So I cleaned that cartridge using head cleaner because it had been sitting around for awhile and probably clogged up. Then I put half the recommended amount of ink in the cartridge which is what another site said to use for the standard cartridge. I plugged the cartridge back into the printer and it reported a full cartridge and printed fine. What I had forgotten about the other times I filled cartridges was avoiding getting ink on my fingers by wearing cheap surgical gloves from the dollar store. However by today the black ink is all but gone from my fingers.
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
It has been said by some who knew Marshy that he was an ardent Hindu - the fact that much of Nazi philosophy was based on Hindu principles may have made M warm towards Adolph. There are a good many things available on the Hindu underpinnings of the Nazi state. Here are a couple of excerpts from an article about Heinrich Himmler: Himmler was also drawn to The Pilgrim Kamanita by the Danish author Karl Gjellerup, which was a contemporary best-seller. In his diary, Himmler commented: A precious narration. The content is the teaching of salvation. Gjellerup's book quoted several verses from the Vedas, including: The one who kills believes that he is killing. The one who has been killed believes that he dies. Both of them are wrong, for one doesn't die and the other doesn't kill. Later, Himmler delivered some of these same philosophies in his speeches to his SS officers. In the 1920s and the early 1930s, Himmler read some popular books about Hinduism and Buddhism. Yet, his actual interest in classic Hindu texts came later, when he founded the SS-Ahnenerbe, the brain trust of the Black Order, a group of highly qualified academics and occultists that attempted to forge the ideology of a racist warrior religion. In 1937, Himmler chose Professor Walter Wüst to serve as the president of the SS-Ahnenerbe. Two years later, Wüst became the curator of this notorious organization. Incidentally, in addition to being one of the leading Sanskrit scholars of his time, Wüst served as the president of the Maximilian University in Munich. In the academic world, Orientalists from this particular university were considered the top experts in their field. Wüst was keenly interested in extracting ideas from the Vedas and Buddhism of the so-called Aryan tradition in order to give National Socialism a religious dimension. One slogan of his was: Also above India hovers the sun-sign of the Swastika. To Wüst, Hitler appeared as the manifestation of a Chakravartin - Indo-Aryan world emperor. Wüst tried to support this particular speculation by verses from classical Indian scriptures. Moreover, in one of his emotion-driven speeches, he compared Hitler with the historical Buddha. http://www.ibtimes.com/heinrich-himmler-nazi-hindu-21 On Fri, 1/24/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 7:58 PM Sorry Nabby, but irregardless of how folks feel about TM, many DO recall MMY saying the stuff about Hitler. Like I said, I feel it is mainly due to cultural differences. There are folks in India back in the 30's and 40s who thought that Nazism was a good thing and wrote about it. On 01/24/2014 11:25 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Do notice that all this gossip is from people who have left the Movement and might hold several grunges towards it. That Rick Archer post negativity here from anonymous friends is nothing new and will happen again.
[FairfieldLife] RE: We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
FWIW, who / what the f*uck protected Hitler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler
Re: [FairfieldLife] China Warns Foreign Planes
Bhairitu, I researched the inauguration date of Red China's nationhood, which is October 1, 1949; 15:01 hrs; Beijing, China. This would make the lagna in Capricorn. Mars is debilitated in Cancer, and Venus is swakshetra in Libra.
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
You're sorry ? Right, you claimed it was Satyanand and NOT Maharishi that made that comment. You should be sorry
[FairfieldLife] Documentary Film on Science Spirituality
Dear ones, Please enjoy my latest thought provoking documentary film on Science Spirituality: http://www.cultureunplugged. com/documentary/watch-online/ play/50597/Beyond-Reason http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/play/50597/Beyond-Reason My films are non-commercial, non-profit and educational. I've made them at my own expense and provide them at no cost to you on my advertisement-free site!! Frank Huguenard Executive Producer Beyond Me Films www.beyondmefilm.com http://www.beyondmefilm.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] China Warns Foreign Planes
Thanks! On 01/24/2014 01:27 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Bhairitu, I researched the inauguration date of Red China's nationhood, which is October 1, 1949; 15:01 hrs; Beijing, China. This would make the lagna in Capricorn. Mars is debilitated in Cancer, and Venus is swakshetra in Libra.
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
Nope, never said it was Satyanand. You have me confused with someone else. On 01/24/2014 01:33 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: You're sorry ? Right, you claimed it was Satyanand and NOT Maharishi that made that comment. You should be sorry
[FairfieldLife] RE: We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
Correct, but you did write: many DO recall MMY saying the stuff about Hitler. Without a reference to whom that many might be. That's slander. To your credit you don't post from a friend who wish to be anonymous like a certain Rick Archer does.
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
Correct, but you did write: many DO recall MMY saying the stuff about Hitler. Without a reference to whom that many might be. That's slander. To your credit you don't post from a friend who wish to be anonymous like a certain Rick Archer does, FFL's Grand Master of Deception.
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
Correct, but you did write: many DO recall MMY saying the stuff about Hitler. Without a reference to whom that many might be or what the stuff is all about. That's slander. To your credit you don't post from a friend who wish to be anonymous like a certain Rick Archer does, FFL's Grand Master of Deception.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Great Country Classics
Garth Brooks [image: Inline image 1] Two Of A Kind Working On A Full House http://youtu.be/xIaUxNuO0dY Garth Brooks integrated rock elements into his recordings to produce progressive country music. He is the best-selling recording artist in the United States since 1991 ahead of the Beatles, and the second best selling artist of all time, behind only Elvis Presley. Brooks has won two Grammy Awards, and seventeen American Music Awards. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garth_Brooks On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Merl Haggard [image: Inline image 2] We saw Merle Haggard and Kris Kristofferson at the Wells Fargo Center, Santa Rosa, CA located at 50 Mark West Springs Road, on Apr 2, 2009. My daughter lives in Santa Rosa and is a big country music fan. He has played Austin on several occasions. Live in Austin,Texas October 30, 1985 http://youtu.be/GDPoQa1Ptt0 Live - Austin City Limits, 1978 http://youtu.be/UwHzkyPZHKg [image: Inline image 1] Merle Haggard Fender Signature Telecaster Haggard has endorsed Fender guitars and has a Custom Artist signature model Telecaster. The guitar is a modified Telecaster Thinline with laminated top of figured maple, set neck with deep carved heel, birdseye maple fingerboard with 22 jumbo frets, ivoroid pickguard and binding, gold hardware, abalone Tuff Dog Tele peghead inlay, 2-Colour Sunburst finish and a pair of Fender Texas Special Tele single-coil pickups with custom-wired 4-way pickup switching. He also plays six string acoustic models. In 2001, C.F. Martin Company introduced a limited edition Merle Haggard Signature Edition 000-28SMH acoustic guitar available with or without factory-installed electronics. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merle_Haggard 'The Encyclopedia of Country Music' by Paul Kingsburyand Vince Gill Oxford University Press, 1998 On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:48 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: One of my favourite country classics (bear in mind I'm British so American country has an exotic element that would be lost on Yanks) is Merle Haggard's Okie from Muskogee. First time I heard it I took it straight as a conservative Yank protesting about the permissive hippie culture. The second time I heard it I thought what an idiot I'd been - it was *obviously* a satire taking the mickey out of straight-laced country fans. Later I realised that what makes the song so appealing is precisely its ambiguity. It isn't offering a neat resolution but leaves you understanding that life isn't interested in accommodate our preconceived notions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb41WPXYlQc
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Great Country Classics
[image: Inline image 1] Two Of A Kind Working On A Full House - Trey Laymon cover http://youtu.be/eX0JcMWgENg On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Garth Brooks [image: Inline image 1] Two Of A Kind Working On A Full House http://youtu.be/xIaUxNuO0dY Garth Brooks integrated rock elements into his recordings to produce progressive country music. He is the best-selling recording artist in the United States since 1991 ahead of the Beatles, and the second best selling artist of all time, behind only Elvis Presley. Brooks has won two Grammy Awards, and seventeen American Music Awards. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garth_Brooks On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Merl Haggard [image: Inline image 2] We saw Merle Haggard and Kris Kristofferson at the Wells Fargo Center, Santa Rosa, CA located at 50 Mark West Springs Road, on Apr 2, 2009. My daughter lives in Santa Rosa and is a big country music fan. He has played Austin on several occasions. Live in Austin,Texas October 30, 1985 http://youtu.be/GDPoQa1Ptt0 Live - Austin City Limits, 1978 http://youtu.be/UwHzkyPZHKg [image: Inline image 1] Merle Haggard Fender Signature Telecaster Haggard has endorsed Fender guitars and has a Custom Artist signature model Telecaster. The guitar is a modified Telecaster Thinline with laminated top of figured maple, set neck with deep carved heel, birdseye maple fingerboard with 22 jumbo frets, ivoroid pickguard and binding, gold hardware, abalone Tuff Dog Tele peghead inlay, 2-Colour Sunburst finish and a pair of Fender Texas Special Tele single-coil pickups with custom-wired 4-way pickup switching. He also plays six string acoustic models. In 2001, C.F. Martin Company introduced a limited edition Merle Haggard Signature Edition 000-28SMH acoustic guitar available with or without factory-installed electronics. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merle_Haggard 'The Encyclopedia of Country Music' by Paul Kingsburyand Vince Gill Oxford University Press, 1998 On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:48 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: One of my favourite country classics (bear in mind I'm British so American country has an exotic element that would be lost on Yanks) is Merle Haggard's Okie from Muskogee. First time I heard it I took it straight as a conservative Yank protesting about the permissive hippie culture. The second time I heard it I thought what an idiot I'd been - it was *obviously* a satire taking the mickey out of straight-laced country fans. Later I realised that what makes the song so appealing is precisely its ambiguity. It isn't offering a neat resolution but leaves you understanding that life isn't interested in accommodate our preconceived notions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb41WPXYlQc
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Sat 25-Jan-14 00:15:03 UTC
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 01/18/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 01/25/14 00:00:00 596 messages as of (UTC) 01/24/14 23:54:42 58 Share Long 56 authfriend 51 TurquoiseB 51 Richard Williams 50 dhamiltony2k5 45 Bhairitu 43 nablusoss1008 43 awoelflebater 41 Michael Jackson 27 jr_esq 20 emptybill 19 s3raphita 15 anartaxius 13 cardemaister 10 Richard J. Williams 9 emilymaenot 9 doctordumbass 5 Jason 4 wleed3 4 j_alexander_stanley 4 Mike Dixon 3 steve.sundur 3 WLeed3 2 yifuxero 2 salyavin808 2 merudanda 2 martyboi 1 ultrarishi 1 sharelong60 1 punditster 1 fhuguenard 1 Dick Mays Posters: 32 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Music Greats
Joe South [image: Inline image 3] Rose Garden http://youtu.be/klHkXsalMDE Games People Play http://youtu.be/MAGyENr3_44 [image: Inline image 1] Joe South (February 28, 1940 - September 5, 2012) was an American singer-songwriter and guitarist. Best known for his songwriting, South won the Grammy Award for Song of the Year in 1970 for Games People Play and was again nominated for the award in 1972 for Rose Garden. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_South On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Fleetwood Mac Fleetwood Mac is one of the greatest popular music bands of all time. We saw this performance of Fleetwood Mac on June 4, 2013 at the American Airlines Center in Dallas. [image: Inline image 3] This is just an AWESOME live performance by Fleetwood Mac - World Turning. This is one of the best live versions ever done of this song! We play this song from the CD version when we are demonstrating our high-end Yamaha stereo system in the barn. This version originally aired on April 8, 1976 on the The Midnight Special: World Turning - Live 1976 http://youtu.be/rcsYa6jFRoY Watch these other classic live performances: Go Your Own Way - 1997 - http://youtu.be/p8Ojjn35kP8 Rhiannon - Stevie Nicks 1976 http://youtu.be/wgmRb3MlpHQ Over My Head - Christine McVie http://youtu.be/U3p-AHX0ml0 [image: Inline image 4] Fleetwood Mac's second album after the incorporation of Buckingham and Nicks, 1977's Rumours, produced four U.S. Top 10 singles (including Nicks' song Dreams), and remained at No.1 on the American albums chart for 31 weeks, as well as reaching the top spot in various countries around the world. To date the album has sold over 45 million copies worldwide, making it the 4th highest selling album of all time. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleetwood_Mac
[FairfieldLife] RE: Documentary Film on Science Spirituality
What a fabulous video. Yes, so science as a process gives us what we know and taking what know we then make policy as to what we should do. Therefore science tells us what we should do, like meditate. Science in process then Crafts rational laws that apply in systems and control the universe we live in, like we should come to group meditations. Science and spirituality are not two different things this way like these fundamentalist science-teacher ideologue guys are trying to make. Of course there is a right answer according to the science and we can and should agree on that for our own well-being especially where we get to non-locality like the meissner effect [ME] of coherence in the consciousness of the human form. The policy initiative out of that is that we should be teaching our children to meditate in their schools. That is a truth and should be public policy. That everyone should be taking quiet time to meditate, even from workday in the workplace we should be meditating according to the truth of science. There is nothing relative about that, it just is. People should get their head around that as real and get real about the necessity to meditate for everyone's well-being. That has been modeled and well tested and it is just real science truth. Get over it and get to a spiritual transcending meditation near you as something very good for you for so many good reasons. Let nothing keep you from your meditation. Science has certainly found the dawn of an age of enlightenment in a modern fusion of science process with vedanta and vedic science, just like Maharishi always said as is the keystone of degrees from Maharishi University of Management. What was visionary on the part of Maharishi should certainly be public policy everywhere by the light of science. It is time for quiet-time meditation legislation everywhere as the ultimate civil right. Let freedom ring. Let science be the hammer that rings the bell calling us all in community to meditation. It is quite fair to conclude that science says we all should meditate. -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] Cowboy Breakfast
The largest cowboy breakfast on the planet! [image: Inline image 1] Photo By Billy Calzada/San Antonio Express-News Volunteers cook up breakfast Friday January 24, 2014 at the annual Cowboy Breakfast at the parking lot of Cowboys Dancehall. The event unofficially kicks off the San Antonio Stock Show Rodeo. SAN ANTONIO — Thousands of hearty South Texans, bundled up for warmth, converged on the parking lot of Cowboys Dancehall for an old-fashioned sunrise party at the 36th annual Cowboy Breakfast. The breakfast tradition, which began in 1979 with tacos being served to a few hundred people from the bed of a pickup outside Central Park Mall, has since grown to crowds of 50,000 or more, even during hard freezes and heavy rain... San Antonio Express-News: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/Cowboy-Breakfasthttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Thousands-brave-cold-for-Cowboy-Breakfast-5170674.php#photo-5770082
[FairfieldLife] Why Mars Rover Has Lasted
Probably this shows that it's possible for humans to live there with some ingenuity. Perhaps plant foods can be grown over there under a temperature-controlled dome for protection against the severe cold. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-well-made-american-vehicle-185918089.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-well-made-american-vehicle-185918089.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
Don't quit your day job to be a lawyer. What is your day job anyway? TM Fanatic? :-D On 01/24/2014 03:38 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Correct, but you did write: many DO recall MMY saying the stuff about Hitler. Without a reference to whom that many might be or what the stuff is all about. That's slander. To your credit you don't post from a friend who wish to be anonymous like a certain Rick Archer does, FFL's Grand Master of Deception.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Cowboy Breakfast
Many years ago we were in El Paso, TX for business. Just outside of town, there was a restaurant ranch that offered hearty meals. To this day, I have not eaten a steak dinner as huge as the one cooked in that place. We also went across the Rio Grande to visit Juarez, before it became a war zone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where Do the gods Exist?
Richard, It's possible that everything that we see and not see here in this universe is only a dream by the Knower.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where Do the gods Exist?
Bhairitu, There's an Indian guru by the name of Dr. Pillai who calls these gods, including those recognized in Egypt, as archetypes. Whatever they may be, some humans were able to perceive them in one way or another. And, apparently the humans who saw them perceived them to have some common characteristics as discussed in the vedas or the Egyptian scrolls. Even today, there are shamans in the Yucatan Peninsula or the Amazon who can guide outsiders to see their gods in replicable experiences through the use of hallucigenic plants like peyote or ayuhuasca. My point is that these gods may exist in the higher dimensions of space and consciousness. However, they cannot be perceived in the basic space-time continuum.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where Do the gods Exist?
I know some people who have done ayuhuasca, they say it is quite a demanding experience. On Sat, 1/25/14, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Where Do the gods Exist? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 25, 2014, 2:09 AM Bhairitu, There's an Indian guru by the name of Dr. Pillai who calls these gods, including those recognized in Egypt, as archetypes. Whatever they may be, some humans were able to perceive them in one way or another. And, apparently the humans who saw them perceived them to have some common characteristics as discussed in the vedas or the Egyptian scrolls. Even today, there are shamans in the Yucatan Peninsula or the Amazon who can guide outsiders to see their gods in replicable experiences through the use of hallucigenic plants like peyote or ayuhuasca. My point is that these gods may exist in the higher dimensions of space and consciousness. However, they cannot be perceived in the basic space-time continuum.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY and Siddha Tradtions
MMY - Yogi and Seer: So, you think that the Adi Shankaracharya of Sringeri not only initiated disciples into Sri Vidya practices, but said: Worship of Sri Chakra is a must for the Swamis of the peetha. And, as noted, not by householders, but by Swamis? Sri Vidya practice consists of tantric yoga techniques such as mantra, yantra and puja. According to Brooks, The srividya, because it consists of indestructible seed syllables (bijaksara) rather than words, transcends such mundane considerations as semantic meaning. Accordingly, a bija-only mantra is not merely esoteric but inherently superior. Because it is purely seed-syllables [bijasaras] is the purest form of mantra. It does not make a request or praise god, it is God's purest expression. Gayatri is great but it cannot match srividya because it is still in language; it is Veda and mantra but when transformed into the srividya its greatness increases. From what I've read, the TM bija mantras come from the Sri Vidya tradition. This makes sense when you consider that Swami Brahmanand Saraswati was a Shri Vidya adherent, like his master Swami Krishnananda Saraswari of Sringeri. Sringeri is the headquarters for the Saraswati sannyasin and the center of Sri Vidya worship. [image: Inline image 1] And, isn't it a fact that the principal deity, Saradambal, the Goddess of Learning, is a focus of a mighty spiritual force? According to my informant, Saradamba, by all legendary accounts, is a deity of Kashmir who was literally brought down to the south of India by Adi Shankara. He installed the Sri Yantra at the Kamakshi Temple by Shankarachary himself at Kanchipuram. Swami Krishnananda Saraswati: Mystic and Master: [image: Inline image 2] So, let's go figure. There is a shrine to Shankara at the Sri Vidya temple down in Kanchipuram peeth, wherein lies the Sri Cakra or Sri Yantra. And, the Swami Rama's recounted in his book, Living With the Himalyan Masters, a direct, first hand account of Guru Dev having a Sri Yantra in his possession: Shri Yantra in two dimensions: [image: Inline image 3] During our conversation he started talking to me about Sri Vidya, the highest of paths, followed only by accomplished Sanskrit scholars of India. It is a path which joins raja yoga, kundalini yoga, bhakti yoga, and advaita Vedanta. There are two books recommended by the teachers of this path: The Wave of Bliss and The Wave of Beauty; the compilation of the two books is called Saundaryalahari in Sanskrit. Swami Rama of the Himalayas wrote that SBS was a proponent of the Sri Vidya, and that he used to worship a ruby-encrusted Sri Chakra. Brahmananda Saraswati: Yogi and Siddha: [image: Inline image 4] So, to sum up: So, I guess we can conclude that Swami Krishnananda of Sringeri was a Himalayan Master. And, we can also conclude that SBS, his disciple, was a Himalayan Master. And, I guess we can conclude that Swami Rama was a Himalayan Master, since he founded the Himalayan Institute. MMY came out of the Himalayas and he looks like a Himalayan Master. So, if someone comes out of the Himalayas after studying with a Himalayan Master, and MMY looks and talks like a Himalayan Master, then MMY must be some kind of Himalayan Master. And, since people all over India used to call MMY a Master, then he is probably a Master of some kind. So, since the TM bija mantras came from Naryana, through Parashara and Shakti, down to the Adi Shankara, passed on to Shantanand Saraswati, and Vasudevanand Saraswati, are which are included in the supreme scripture of the Sri Vidya, the Soundaryalahari, we can conclude that the Mahesh Yogi got the TM bija mantras fromthe Shri Vidya tradition. James Duffy and Billy Smith both seem to agree with this. They understand that the TM bijas came from the Sri Vidya tradition, but emptybill cannot. Go figure. Notes: Apparently, the 33rd Shankaracharya of the Sringeri Matha died before he could give all the initiations to the 34th, his succossor. However, the 33rd is reputed to have said: Worship of Sri Chakra is a must for the Swamis of the peetha. According to an authority on the subject, normally the Srividya mantropadesa would be done by the guru, but Narasimha Bharati had passed away before his disciple arrived at Sringeri. Hence the mantropadesa was done by Srikanta Sastri. He had been initiated into it by Narasimha Bharati Mahaswami the34th. The Pontiff's rein was from 1912 to 1953, so he was a contemporary of Guru Dev. The 33rd. was Sri Narasimha Bharati Mahaswami, making him a contemporary of SBS's Guru, Swami Krishnanand Saraswati. Works cited: 'Living With the Himalayan Masters' by Swami Rama Himayan Institure, 1999 p.245 Auspicious Wisdon The texts and traditions of Srividya Sakta Tantrism in South India. by Douglas Renfrew Brooks SUNY 1992 p.95 On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: [image: Inline image 1] MMY and Swami Venkatesananda Saraswati at Rishikesh According to MMY, sidha yoga is a
[FairfieldLife] RE: Ah, Mother India
Re The TurquoiseB is a downer, fer sure!: Yet turquoise is a beautiful colour and stone. This is what I read from a Google search: Perhaps the oldest stone in man’s history, the talisman of kings, shamans, and warriors. It is a stone of protection, strong and opaque, yet soothing to the touch, healing to the eye, as if carved from an azure heaven and slipped to earth. For thousands of years, Turquoise has spanned all cultures, prized as a symbol of wisdom, nobility and the power of immortality. Indian priests wore it in ceremonies when calling upon the great spirit of the sky. Many honoured Turquoise as the universal stone, believing their minds would become one with the universe when wearing it. Because of its ability to change colours, it was used in prophecy or divining.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Jargon As A Second Language: how it impedes spiritual communication
Good points Jim. And I think that perhaps I need to be a little more open minded because for me, I can't understand why anyone would really even want to talk about those experiences. I feel that I have some nice experiences too, but it's not really anything I'd want to share, ala Judy's point. But maybe because you and David are more established in those higher states of consciousness, you find value in discussing them, and it helps you in your understanding. I will say Jim, that you said something recently that stuck with me, because it has been my experience, and MO for a long time. That is, meditation along with introspection and an effect to ferret out our flaws, is a real key to progress. Now just for fun, I guess you could say, that ego confronting maya, and separating the non self from the transcendental self is the key to attaining Moksha. Oh well. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ...something I notice on the Batgap chat siteI have to say it always sounds good, but I ask myself, could it not be said more simply? There is basically no state of consciousness or experience they haven't had Hey Steve - Maharishi was speaking from his own experience when he described his 7 states (which he amended to include life in Brahman as a further expression of enlightenment). The discussions I have with one other person on BatGap are in the context of how well, or not, our experience matches the descriptions of various states, as Brahman is inclusive of all of them. In that context, I find that the language used can sometimes sound like jargon, simply because everyone [having the discussion] already understands the experience of CC, or GC or UC. Nonetheless, I have discovered a lot by comparing notes. For example, through these discussions, it has become evident to me, that GC does not necessarily evolve from CC, as UC does, but is rather an expression more of subtle emotional development, vs. expansion of consciousness. I am really not sure what your beef is, except that you were possibly hoping for descriptions, put a different way, so that they would be more useful to your future achievement of them. However, if you simply follow the discussion for what it is - two people clarifying and discussing experiences, you won't get bored so quickly. Last, the only way you are going to get clarification of something, on the BatGap site, is to put on your big-boy pants and actually ask a question, or make a statement. Hope this helps. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Nice little rap. It is something I notice on the Batgap chat site. There are some correspondents (as Richard would say), who really nail that jargon. I have to say it always sounds good, but I ask myself, could it not be said more simply? There is basically no state of consciousness or experience they haven't had. If suddenly a hidden lecture of Maharishi's surfaced about, say, Brahman-in Loka 7, they would have been there, and could speak authoritatively about it. For all I know, maybe they are living those realities! But I find after only a few sentences, I get pretty bored. You get that same thing with David Spero, (sorry no link, kind of rushing this morning). I know he has a Batgap interview, (which I haven't seen), but every so often I check into his website to see a few minutes of his talks. On the other hand, there's much I don't know about the upper echelons of spirituality, that maybe they all have arrived as they seem to indicate. The most spiritual thing I've seen in the last couple years was the video Ann posted about Ann ___ who can dial into the thinking and feeling of animals. If I have any spiritual tingling in my life, it would be along those lines. I do feel an affinity with the animal world, including insects, but nothing like she has. I'd be like comparing a kindergartner to a college grad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: Michael's story about a Death Watch, Southern-Style really inspired me this morning. It reached me. It got me interested in the characters and the scenario and how things were gonna turn out...even though that was a little telegraphed by the title. :-) Being me, I started thinking about this in terms of some recent posts that have discussed the writing of stories about spiritual experience. Some of the tales of power I've read from seekers on many paths reached me, and some didn't. In some cases there was too much Look at me in the tales I didn't like, too much attention-seeking on the part of the storyteller, and that -- for me -- is a bit of a turnoff. But more often in the tales I didn't like, the issue was language, and in particular the overuse of spiritual jargon. Jargon has its uses. If you're dealing with a concept that really doesn't much exist for most of the people in your
[FairfieldLife] RE: Advaita is about inherent freedom
Apparently you can't understand what you read. Gaudapada in Mandukya Karika, 4.99; “naitad buddhena bhasitam” (this was not expressed by Buddha). Shankara comments: The nature of the supreme reality is free from the differences of knowledge, known and knower, and is without a second, etat, the fact: na bhâsitam, was not expressed; buddhena, by Buddha; though a near approach to non-dualism was implied in his negation of outer objects and his imagination of everything as mere consciousness. But this non-duality, the essence of the ultimate Reality, is to be known from the Upanishads only. This is the purport.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jargon As A Second Language: how it impedes spiritual communication
Well, I say this for Michael's benefit mostly, and I've mentioned this before. I read the transcripts of two interviews with Fred Lenz, aka Rama, and I was most impressed with them. And that's a capital M. I believe the second interview was sometime into the whole affair, and my perception was - in the first interview, the silver was polished with a high sheen. In the second interview, it was still silver, but had just gotten a little tarnished. On the other hand, Ithink you see that a lot in spiritual teachers. They work hard to get to a certain level of spiritual development, and gain a level of freedom that comes with it, and then decide, why not (indulge a little). And then maybe a little becomes a lot. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Nice little rap. It is something I notice on the Batgap chat site. There are some correspondents (as Richard would say), who really nail that jargon. I have to say it always sounds good, but I ask myself, could it not be said more simply? There is basically no state of consciousness or experience they haven't had. If suddenly a hidden lecture of Maharishi's surfaced about, say, Brahman-in Loka 7, they would have been there, and could speak authoritatively about it. For all I know, maybe they are living those realities! But I find after only a few sentences, I get pretty bored. I know how you feel. Especially the new knowledge suddenly, overnight being the everyday reality of the people who've just heard it the day before thang. If Maharishi had suddenly announced DC (Dweezil Consciousness, y'know...higher than all the rest) they'd immediately be able to discourse knowingly about DC and what it's like to be there. Just for the edification of us rubes who (sadly) aren't there yet, of course. :-) You get that same thing with David Spero, (sorry no link, kind of rushing this morning). I know he has a Batgap interview, (which I haven't seen), but every so often I check into his website to see a few minutes of his talks. Don't know him. I've certainly seen the same thing in many orgs, both in the teachers and in their students. It's more forgivable IMO in the students. On the other hand, there's much I don't know about the upper echelons of spirituality, that maybe they all have arrived as they seem to indicate. And maybe the self they no longer have just wants to be appreciated for Having Arrived at selflessness. :-) The most spiritual thing I've seen in the last couple years was the video Ann posted about Ann ___ who can dial into the thinking and feeling of animals. If I have any spiritual tingling in my life, it would be along those lines. I do feel an affinity with the animal world, including insects, but nothing like she has. I'd be like comparing a kindergartner to a college grad. I haven't seen it, and haven't had very many experiences of that sort myself. The most powerful ones were with birds of prey. They just lock eyes with you and won't look away, and if you hold that gaze you (or at least I) can convince yourself that you're getting a hit on what they're thinking, and how they think. I've seen a weird thing around the Rama guy that I have no explanation for. To me it feels a lot like how he described it -- transmission. What would happen was that we'd be late into a center meeting or out in the desert in the wee hours of the night, after literally hours of meditation and talks, and he'd just say Watch. Then he'd either meditate, or dance around, or whatever, with no setup. Often there would be no subsequent explanation, only a passing That was a new teaching. Afterwards, as I walked around and overheard students talking amongst themselves on the break of after the gathering, I'd lurk and listen to what they were saying. Often -- and often to my surprise -- they were describing the same experiences I would have. And using the same language. It was (subjectively) as if packets of data had been downloaded to each of us, silently. It was just the damnedest thing, and as I say I can't explain how it happened, only that it did, with some frequency. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: Michael's story about a Death Watch, Southern-Style really inspired me this morning. It reached me. It got me interested in the characters and the scenario and how things were gonna turn out...even though that was a little telegraphed by the title. :-) Being me, I started thinking about this in terms of some recent posts that have discussed the writing of stories about spiritual experience. Some of the tales of power I've read from seekers on many paths reached me, and some didn't. In some cases there was too much Look at me in the tales I didn't like, too much attention-seeking on the part of the storyteller, and that -- for me -- is a bit of a turnoff.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Great Rock Hits of the Past
Don't know who to thank more: Robert Palmer for his effortlessly stylish persona or Terence Donovan for his brilliant direction of the iconic video. R.I.P. to both of them. And the models played their parts to perfection also. Addicted to Love gets a thumbs up from me.
[FairfieldLife] Fighting for a Failed War
It appears that Karzai has secretly made a deal with the Taliban to kick the Americans out of Afghanistan. By doing so, he gets to live in peace in his country or continue as president while the Taliban takes a de facto rule of certain regions of Afghanistan. It's unfortunate that the American military brass is clueless about this possibility. Or, they may know it, but is helpless to do anything about it considering Obama's political agenda to get out of the country ASAP. http://news.yahoo.com/fighting-failed-war-104500505--politics.html http://news.yahoo.com/fighting-failed-war-104500505--politics.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: Where Do the gods Exist?
Re I know some people who have done ayuhuasca, they say it is quite a demanding experience.: Any drug that makes its partakers vomit (eg, heroin and ayahuasca) I assume is our body's way of telling us this isn't a good idea. I did try DMT a few times (an ingredient in ayahuasca) which gives you a 15-minute (!) trip as opposed to ayahuasca's six hours endurance test. One thing I noticed was that it gave other people an Aztec appearance. There's nothing occult about it of course. It's just that the ancient Mexican artists who have left us their visual records had themselves imbibed DMT-laced hallucinogens when they created their distinctive work.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where Do the gods Exist?
MJ, From what I've seen on the video documentaries, the ayuhuasca users get sick to their stomach during the trip. But they do see or experience strange visions.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fighting for a Failed War
What a shit-hole Afghanistan has become. It used to be a hippie haven a long, long time ago. Check out these pictures of women in Afghanistan pre-Taliban . . . http://dangerousminds.net/comments/it_didnt_always_suck_to_be_a_woman_in_afghanistan http://dangerousminds.net/comments/it_didnt_always_suck_to_be_a_woman_in_afghanistan
[FairfieldLife] RE: Jargon As A Second Language: how it impedes spiritual communication
Hey Steve - yeah, I am grateful that I am able to find people, from time to time, with whom I can discuss my experiences. I don't do it simply to hear different perspectives, or flavors, but, rather as a quicker way to learn about something, and make progress. Simply that it is another person, having similar enough experiences that they can be compared, is a fantastic way, for me, to clear up misconceptions or questions that creep up into anything. The duration is far shorter, but I get equally excited when I learn how to clean out a gas burner tube, fix a plumbing leak, rewire a circuit, or install a solar panel. Life is just so mind blowingly cool, and everything about it. I am a constant sponge for knowledge and experience, and learning, and always have been. My latest adventure involves RVing in a Class A 34 ft rig - Fun as fuck!! and you can quote me on that. Now that I know how to operate it, after a shake-out trip, I soon leave for a primitive campsite in the mountains for two weeks, carrying all my water food, fuel and all the comforts of home, except for cell, internet and tv (no problem-o) . I am writing my life story, and it is time to get started, with future sojourns in mind. Anyway, my point is, as a life goal, I really enjoy going after that 200 percent of life thing MMY talked about; 100% inside (Moksha) and 100% outside (Unity). The fun is blending it all together, while continuing to learn, live and grow, without any apparent limits to what can be achieved; just have to watch out for the thorns on the roses sometimes. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Good points Jim. And I think that perhaps I need to be a little more open minded because for me, I can't understand why anyone would really even want to talk about those experiences. I feel that I have some nice experiences too, but it's not really anything I'd want to share, ala Judy's point. But maybe because you and David are more established in those higher states of consciousness, you find value in discussing them, and it helps you in your understanding. I will say Jim, that you said something recently that stuck with me, because it has been my experience, and MO for a long time. That is, meditation along with introspection and an effect to ferret out our flaws, is a real key to progress. Now just for fun, I guess you could say, that ego confronting maya, and separating the non self from the transcendental self is the key to attaining Moksha. Oh well. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ...something I notice on the Batgap chat siteI have to say it always sounds good, but I ask myself, could it not be said more simply? There is basically no state of consciousness or experience they haven't had Hey Steve - Maharishi was speaking from his own experience when he described his 7 states (which he amended to include life in Brahman as a further expression of enlightenment). The discussions I have with one other person on BatGap are in the context of how well, or not, our experience matches the descriptions of various states, as Brahman is inclusive of all of them. In that context, I find that the language used can sometimes sound like jargon, simply because everyone [having the discussion] already understands the experience of CC, or GC or UC. Nonetheless, I have discovered a lot by comparing notes. For example, through these discussions, it has become evident to me, that GC does not necessarily evolve from CC, as UC does, but is rather an expression more of subtle emotional development, vs. expansion of consciousness. I am really not sure what your beef is, except that you were possibly hoping for descriptions, put a different way, so that they would be more useful to your future achievement of them. However, if you simply follow the discussion for what it is - two people clarifying and discussing experiences, you won't get bored so quickly. Last, the only way you are going to get clarification of something, on the BatGap site, is to put on your big-boy pants and actually ask a question, or make a statement. Hope this helps. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Nice little rap. It is something I notice on the Batgap chat site. There are some correspondents (as Richard would say), who really nail that jargon. I have to say it always sounds good, but I ask myself, could it not be said more simply? There is basically no state of consciousness or experience they haven't had. If suddenly a hidden lecture of Maharishi's surfaced about, say, Brahman-in Loka 7, they would have been there, and could speak authoritatively about it. For all I know, maybe they are living those realities! But I find after only a few sentences, I get pretty bored. You get that same thing with David Spero, (sorry no link, kind of rushing this morning). I
[FairfieldLife] RE: Where Do the gods Exist?
S3, Since you took DMT, what did you personally experience? How did you feel? Did you see any visions?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Jargon As A Second Language: how it impedes spiritual communication
Jim, thanks for your reply. I understand what you are saying. And I gotta say, it sounds like you've got a damn fine plan! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hey Steve - yeah, I am grateful that I am able to find people, from time to time, with whom I can discuss my experiences. I don't do it simply to hear different perspectives, or flavors, but, rather as a quicker way to learn about something, and make progress. Simply that it is another person, having similar enough experiences that they can be compared, is a fantastic way, for me, to clear up misconceptions or questions that creep up into anything. The duration is far shorter, but I get equally excited when I learn how to clean out a gas burner tube, fix a plumbing leak, rewire a circuit, or install a solar panel. Life is just so mind blowingly cool, and everything about it. I am a constant sponge for knowledge and experience, and learning, and always have been. My latest adventure involves RVing in a Class A 34 ft rig - Fun as fuck!! and you can quote me on that. Now that I know how to operate it, after a shake-out trip, I soon leave for a primitive campsite in the mountains for two weeks, carrying all my water food, fuel and all the comforts of home, except for cell, internet and tv (no problem-o) . I am writing my life story, and it is time to get started, with future sojourns in mind. Anyway, my point is, as a life goal, I really enjoy going after that 200 percent of life thing MMY talked about; 100% inside (Moksha) and 100% outside (Unity). The fun is blending it all together, while continuing to learn, live and grow, without any apparent limits to what can be achieved; just have to watch out for the thorns on the roses sometimes. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Good points Jim. And I think that perhaps I need to be a little more open minded because for me, I can't understand why anyone would really even want to talk about those experiences. I feel that I have some nice experiences too, but it's not really anything I'd want to share, ala Judy's point. But maybe because you and David are more established in those higher states of consciousness, you find value in discussing them, and it helps you in your understanding. I will say Jim, that you said something recently that stuck with me, because it has been my experience, and MO for a long time. That is, meditation along with introspection and an effect to ferret out our flaws, is a real key to progress. Now just for fun, I guess you could say, that ego confronting maya, and separating the non self from the transcendental self is the key to attaining Moksha. Oh well. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ...something I notice on the Batgap chat siteI have to say it always sounds good, but I ask myself, could it not be said more simply? There is basically no state of consciousness or experience they haven't had Hey Steve - Maharishi was speaking from his own experience when he described his 7 states (which he amended to include life in Brahman as a further expression of enlightenment). The discussions I have with one other person on BatGap are in the context of how well, or not, our experience matches the descriptions of various states, as Brahman is inclusive of all of them. In that context, I find that the language used can sometimes sound like jargon, simply because everyone [having the discussion] already understands the experience of CC, or GC or UC. Nonetheless, I have discovered a lot by comparing notes. For example, through these discussions, it has become evident to me, that GC does not necessarily evolve from CC, as UC does, but is rather an expression more of subtle emotional development, vs. expansion of consciousness. I am really not sure what your beef is, except that you were possibly hoping for descriptions, put a different way, so that they would be more useful to your future achievement of them. However, if you simply follow the discussion for what it is - two people clarifying and discussing experiences, you won't get bored so quickly. Last, the only way you are going to get clarification of something, on the BatGap site, is to put on your big-boy pants and actually ask a question, or make a statement. Hope this helps. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Nice little rap. It is something I notice on the Batgap chat site. There are some correspondents (as Richard would say), who really nail that jargon. I have to say it always sounds good, but I ask myself, could it not be said more simply? There is basically no state of consciousness or experience they haven't had. If suddenly a hidden lecture of Maharishi's surfaced about, say, Brahman-in Loka 7, they would have been there, and could speak authoritatively about it. For all I
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: David Lynch’s remed y for Mideas t peace: Transcendental Meditat ion
Michael, This is excellent writing. You should write a book about your youth while growing up in the South. Who knows, it could be a best seller.
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
Anartaxius; Lack of stability, not necessarily. You are making that up and projecting it. As a meditating Iowa livestock man I got my spiritual feet on the ground in life proly more than most meditators around here. Context is everything when people quote like MJ is trying to do on Maharishi. Think what you like but Maharishi was an extremely important guru to the world in the 20th and now 21st Centuries. MJ just spouting something without cultural context like he perpetrates is being spiritually vile. Frankly I am concerned about MJ's eternal soul. MJ is way too black and white without any attempt at showing understanding (empathy) of the grey tones. His attack on Maharishi for some quote pulled out of the air shows a lack of perspective.. that seems willful and aggressive to some bitter end. MJ's comments deserves to be deleted to protect virtue and MJ from further sin. So, I have taken them out again below. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: If Michael J has pointed out things M really said, this does not reflect on you Buck as a love of truth. Maharishi did really seem to have a totalitarian mindset, a top down, there is a king, under whom there are subjects, subject to the will of the king. If M praised Hitler and you would desire that it be lied about, either a lie of commission or a lie omission, why should I or anyone follow your advice? Gurus have warts. If what they have to teach has value, it is not because of their personal quirks, it is because what they teach has a value beyond individual concerns. You take what is of value, but if you push away an individual's dark side as if it did not exist, that is not realistic, that is self deception. Hitler's influence on the world was not very life supporting in the end. But there are those pearly teeth on the dead dog in the gutter. He was not a great artist, but he was a better artist than Winston Churchill, or Dwight Eisenhower, who also painted, as well as engineering Hitler's defeat. Maharishi seems to have appreciated his organising power, his penchant for order and systems, his top down style of management, which resembles more the Joseph Stalin school of management rather than say, Thomas Jefferson's preferences for individual freedom. In the interest of reality, I restored MJ's comments below (and by the way, taking offense shows a lack of stability, it means that others could use that characteristic to control your behaviour by pushing your buttons): ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling blaspheme that you may burn in hell for. As a practicing conservative Transcendental Meditation meditator and satisfied customer of the Maharishi, I am completely offended by your comments. I am going to delete your words from this thread right now to save you from your sin damaging your spiritual subtle system any further. Kindly, and of the Love that is the Natural Law of the Unified Field, your Friend, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: MJ's Comments [Deleted] [restored] [Deleted] On Thu, 1/23/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 10:43 PM We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend of deep relaxation with Transcendental Meditation This course is for those practising Transcendental Meditation who would like to experience an extended meditation programme. It is the ideal opportunity for anyone who has never been on a weekend course before to come and enjoy this deeply restful experience. Friday, 28th February to Sunday, 2nd March 2014 Deep rest to restore balanceDuring the weekend you will have the opportunity to deepen your experience of Transcendental Meditation. Through extended practice of Transcendental Meditation you can benefit from deep rest to create the perfect condition for the mind and body to throw off stress and fatigue, to restore balance, stay healthy and feel your own inner happiness. We will also guide you through some simple and easy Maharishi Yoga Asanas (postures) and Pranayama (breathing exercises) to complement your daily practice of Transcendental Meditation. To discover and understand more about your experiences during meditation there will be special videotapes with questions and answer sessions each day. This will also provide a deeper insight into the development of consciousness through Transcendental Meditation and the practical benefits of the programme. The venue The Transcendental Meditation residential course weekend will be at the De
Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
So, are there any black and white videos on YouTube that show MMY praising Hitler or Mussolini? On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:39 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Anartaxius; Lack of stability, not necessarily. You are making that up and projecting it. As a meditating Iowa livestock man I got my spiritual feet on the ground in life proly more than most meditators around here. Context is everything when people quote like MJ is trying to do on Maharishi. Think what you like but Maharishi was an extremely important guru to the world in the 20th and now 21st Centuries. MJ just spouting something without cultural context like he perpetrates is being spiritually vile. Frankly I am concerned about MJ's eternal soul. MJ is way too black and white without any attempt at showing understanding (empathy) of the grey tones. His attack on Maharishi for some quote pulled out of the air shows a lack of perspective.. that seems willful and aggressive to some bitter end. MJ's comments deserves to be deleted to protect virtue and MJ from further sin. So, I have taken them out again below. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: If Michael J has pointed out things M really said, this does not reflect on you Buck as a love of truth. Maharishi did really seem to have a totalitarian mindset, a top down, there is a king, under whom there are subjects, subject to the will of the king. If M praised Hitler and you would desire that it be lied about, either a lie of commission or a lie omission, why should I or anyone follow your advice? Gurus have warts. If what they have to teach has value, it is not because of their personal quirks, it is because what they teach has a value beyond individual concerns. You take what is of value, but if you push away an individual's dark side as if it did not exist, that is not realistic, that is self deception. Hitler's influence on the world was not very life supporting in the end. But there are those pearly teeth on the dead dog in the gutter. He was not a great artist, but he was a better artist than Winston Churchill, or Dwight Eisenhower, who also painted, as well as engineering Hitler's defeat. Maharishi seems to have appreciated his organising power, his penchant for order and systems, his top down style of management, which resembles more the Joseph Stalin school of management rather than say, Thomas Jefferson's preferences for individual freedom. In the interest of reality, I restored MJ's comments below (and by the way, taking offense shows a lack of stability, it means that others could use that characteristic to control your behaviour by pushing your buttons): ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling blaspheme that you may burn in hell for. As a practicing conservative Transcendental Meditation meditator and satisfied customer of the Maharishi, I am completely offended by your comments. I am going to delete your words from this thread right now to save you from your sin damaging your spiritual subtle system any further.Kindly,and of the Love that is the Natural Law of the Unified Field,your Friend,-Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: MJ's Comments [Deleted] [restored] [Deleted] On Thu, 1/23/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 10:43 PM We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend of deep relaxation with Transcendental Meditation This course is for those practising Transcendental Meditation who would like to experience an extended meditation programme. It is the ideal opportunity for anyone who has never been on a weekend course before to come and enjoy this deeply restful experience. Friday, 28th February to Sunday, 2nd March 2014 Deep rest to restore balanceDuring the weekend you will have the opportunity to deepen your experience of Transcendental Meditation. Through extended practice of Transcendental Meditation you can benefit from deep rest to create the perfect condition for the mind and body to throw off stress and fatigue, to restore balance, stay healthy and feel your own inner happiness. We will also guide you through some simple and easy Maharishi Yoga Asanas (postures) and Pranayama (breathing exercises) to complement your daily practice of Transcendental Meditation. To discover and understand more about your experiences during meditation there will be special videotapes with questions and answer sessions each day. This will also provide a deeper insight into the development of consciousness through Transcendental Meditation and the practical benefits of the programme. The venue The Transcendental Meditation residential
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jargon As A Second Language: how it impedes spiritual communication
* the overuse of spiritual jargon.* ** Speaking of jargon, what is spiritual? From what I've read, spiritual means believing in spirit beings. Just explain it without the jargon. Thanks. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:45 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: *Michael's story about a Death Watch, Southern-Style really inspired me this morning. It reached me. It got me interested in the characters and the scenario and how things were gonna turn out...even though that was a little telegraphed by the title. :-) Being me, I started thinking about this in terms of some recent posts that have discussed the writing of stories about spiritual experience. Some of the tales of power I've read from seekers on many paths reached me, and some didn't. In some cases there was too much Look at me in the tales I didn't like, too much attention-seeking on the part of the storyteller, and that -- for me -- is a bit of a turnoff. But more often in the tales I didn't like, the issue was language, and in particular the overuse of spiritual jargon.Jargon has its uses. If you're dealing with a concept that really doesn't much exist for most of the people in your audience, it's fine IMO to give it a name. The first time a spiritual teacher does this, he or she also gives a talk about what that name or term *means*. If it's a term that comes up in his or her teaching often, over time the students no longer need the explanations or definitions every time they hear the term. They hear karma and *don't* hear in their heads Huh? They begin to hear karma and immediately associate the term with everything they've been told about it by their teacher. Nothing wrong with this so far, IMO.It's when the students go out and try to talk to non-students that the issue of Jargon As A Second Language comes up. If these same students try to give a lecture or write a story that is peppered with the jargon they've come to be so familiar with that they don't even *notice* when they're using it, then they often lose their audience. If every other word is karma this, or dosa that, or purusha somethingorother, all interjected with no definitions of the terms, IMO the storyteller is *limiting* his audience. And in most cases, losing them. They've been *excluded*, because they don't know the jargon the writer is using. Michael's tale wasn't exclusionary; it was inclusive. He used ordinary language, the way he heard it spoken around him at the time, and he used it well to weave a story that said Ya'll come on in, now. Sit yerselves down while I make us some icetea. One of the things I'm most grateful to the Fred Lenz - Rama guy for is for his command of the English language and how to use it. He taught that skill explicitly in his talks to his students, and he demonstrated it in his own public talks. Some of Rama's students liked the talks he'd give where he got into really esoteric or occult shit, subjects that really did require some jargon and were obviously only for my students. I liked his intro lectures. The esoteric talks, given to students who all knew Jargon As A Second Language, were great because he could skip the definitions and use just the jargon as shorthand, and as a time-saver. He could get into some really, really interesting subjects in these just for students talks. But it was the intro lectures that were High Art. There, he'd get into the *same* interesting subjects, only this time using metaphors like going to the movies and going to work and stuff like that, things that people knew and identified with. His intros were in almost all cases jargon-free, and that's what's so interesting in retrospect. He didn't *need* the jargon to discuss these same interesting subjects -- he found a way to do it *without jargon*, and in language that actually reached the people he was talking to. There are legitimate uses for spiritual jargon. But if you use them in your writing, you're limiting your audience. I guess that's all I'm saying. By relying on jargon that they don't explain, some writers are IMO being more than a little elitist in their approach. They are expecting their audience to know all these jargon words and buzzphrases, and respecting them so little that they don't even bother to translate them back into English as they go. I think that's rude. When I encounter seekers and teachers from spiritual traditions I haven't encountered before and they start talking in non-stop jargon, I have a little trick that I sometimes do. After a particularly long jargonfest, I stop them and ask them politely, Could you repeat that in English, without using any jargon or buzzwords this time? You'd be amazed at how many actually CAN'T. Some actually get angry, and accuse me of asking them to (a literal quote I've heard several times) Speak down to the level of my audience. What made them think they were above them in the first place?If you're talkin'
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fighting for a Failed War
S3, It goes to show how the Taliban destroyed the country in the guise of religion. They became the breeding ground for Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY and Siddha Tradtions
RW, Good descriptive paragraph. That is my experience. Thanks for the put to words and posting it here, -Buck RW writes, According to Brooks, The srividya, because it consists of indestructible seed syllables (bijaksara) rather than words, transcends such mundane considerations as semantic meaning. Accordingly, a bija-only mantra is not merely esoteric but inherently superior. Because it is purely seed-syllables [bijasaras] is the purest form of mantra. It does not make a request or praise god, it is God's purest expression. Gayatri is great but it cannot match srividya because it is still in language; it is Veda and mantra but when transformed into the srividya its greatness increases. MMY - Yogi and Seer: So, you think that the Adi Shankaracharya of Sringeri not only initiated disciples into Sri Vidya practices, but said: Worship of Sri Chakra is a must for the Swamis of the peetha. And, as noted, not by householders, but by Swamis? Sri Vidya practice consists of tantric yoga techniques such as mantra, yantra and puja. According to Brooks, The srividya, because it consists of indestructible seed syllables (bijaksara) rather than words, transcends such mundane considerations as semantic meaning. Accordingly, a bija-only mantra is not merely esoteric but inherently superior. Because it is purely seed-syllables [bijasaras] is the purest form of mantra. It does not make a request or praise god, it is God's purest expression. Gayatri is great but it cannot match srividya because it is still in language; it is Veda and mantra but when transformed into the srividya its greatness increases. From what I've read, the TM bija mantras come from the Sri Vidya tradition. This makes sense when you consider that Swami Brahmanand Saraswati was a Shri Vidya adherent, like his master Swami Krishnananda Saraswari of Sringeri. Sringeri is the headquarters for the Saraswati sannyasin and the center of Sri Vidya worship. And, isn't it a fact that the principal deity, Saradambal, the Goddess of Learning, is a focus of a mighty spiritual force? According to my informant, Saradamba, by all legendary accounts, is a deity of Kashmir who was literally brought down to the south of India by Adi Shankara. He installed the Sri Yantra at the Kamakshi Temple by Shankarachary himself at Kanchipuram. Swami Krishnananda Saraswati: Mystic and Master: So, let's go figure. There is a shrine to Shankara at the Sri Vidya temple down in Kanchipuram peeth, wherein lies the Sri Cakra or Sri Yantra. And, the Swami Rama's recounted in his book, Living With the Himalyan Masters, a direct, first hand account of Guru Dev having a Sri Yantra in his possession: Shri Yantra in two dimensions: During our conversation he started talking to me about Sri Vidya, the highest of paths, followed only by accomplished Sanskrit scholars of India. It is a path which joins raja yoga, kundalini yoga, bhakti yoga, and advaita Vedanta. There are two books recommended by the teachers of this path: The Wave of Bliss and The Wave of Beauty; the compilation of the two books is called Saundaryalahari in Sanskrit. Swami Rama of the Himalayas wrote that SBS was a proponent of the Sri Vidya, and that he used to worship a ruby-encrusted Sri Chakra. Brahmananda Saraswati: Yogi and Siddha: So, to sum up: So, I guess we can conclude that Swami Krishnananda of Sringeri was a Himalayan Master. And, we can also conclude that SBS, his disciple, was a Himalayan Master. And, I guess we can conclude that Swami Rama was a Himalayan Master, since he founded the Himalayan Institute. MMY came out of the Himalayas and he looks like a Himalayan Master. So, if someone comes out of the Himalayas after studying with a Himalayan Master, and MMY looks and talks like a Himalayan Master, then MMY must be some kind of Himalayan Master. And, since people all over India used to call MMY a Master, then he is probably a Master of some kind. So, since the TM bija mantras came from Naryana, through Parashara and Shakti, down to the Adi Shankara, passed on to Shantanand Saraswati, and Vasudevanand Saraswati, are which are included in the supreme scripture of the Sri Vidya, the Soundaryalahari, we can conclude that the Mahesh Yogi got the TM bija mantras fromthe Shri Vidya tradition. James Duffy and Billy Smith both seem to agree with this. They understand that the TM bijas came from the Sri Vidya tradition, but emptybill cannot. Go figure. Notes: Apparently, the 33rd Shankaracharya of the Sringeri Matha died before he could give all the initiations to the 34th, his succossor. However, the 33rd is reputed to have said: Worship of Sri Chakra is a must for the Swamis of the peetha. According to an authority on the subject, normally the Srividya mantropadesa would be done by the guru, but Narasimha Bharati had passed away before his disciple arrived at
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where Do the gods Exist?
It is possible that everything we see and not see in this universe is only a dream, but it is also possible that a dream is real while it lasts. There isn't anything we do in the waking state that we cannot do in the dream state. In dreams we can run and jump; tables are tables; and we can consult with our friends. But, what if the we are just dreaming a lucid dream? It's like a Zen koan: A monk fell asleep and dreamed he was a butterfly. When he awoke, he asked himself Was I a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or am I a butterfly dreaming I am a man? On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:48 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, It's possible that everything that we see and not see here in this universe is only a dream by the Knower.
