[FairfieldLife] The Earth Is Under Threat, Humans Need to Leave Soon

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Hawking may be getting paranoid.  He needs to meditate to get in touch with the 
absolute.  But it is possible for humans to colonize Mars.  But it's not likely 
we can visit the nearest exoplanets.  We don't have the technology to get there 
within a human lifetime.
 

 But robots with AI can get there as a possible representative of humanity.  
Perhaps they can grow humans there by in vitro fertilization when they arrive 
at the nearest exoplanet.
 

 https://www.yahoo.com/news/stephen-hawking-says-earth-under-162219155.html 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/stephen-hawking-says-earth-under-162219155.html

 

 

[FairfieldLife] An Earth-like Exoplanet with an Atmosphere

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It's nice to know that it exists.  But it is not likely humans can ever visit 
the place since it's too far away for our present technology to reach.  And we 
have not heard of any radio signals that any ETs live there.  So, we keep on 
searching...with billlions and billions of stars to go..

Re: [FairfieldLife] the earth is flat, says Muslim scholar

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Shit... can't argue with that!

 

  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:04 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] the earth is flat, says Muslim scholar
   
    I will probably be accused of Arab bashing or Muslim bashing, but this is 
really pretty funny, Mind you, how many of us on this forum could explain why 
he is wrong?

Saudi Preacher Bandar Al-Khaybari Demonstrates: The Earth Does Not Revolve 
around Itself 
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[FairfieldLife] the earth is flat, says Muslim scholar

[feste37]

I will probably be accused of Arab bashing or Muslim bashing, but this is 
really pretty funny, Mind you, how many of us on this forum could explain why 
he is wrong?

Saudi Preacher Bandar Al-Khaybari Demonstrates: The Earth Does Not Revolve 
around Itself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Jp_XCvVto 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Jp_XCvVto 
 
 Saudi Preacher Bandar Al-Khaybari Demonstrates:... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Jp_XCvVto Bandar Al-Khaybari, a preacher with 
the Saudi Ministry of Islamic Affairs in Al-Madina, claimed that the Earth is 
fixed and does not revolve around itself, d...
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Jp_XCvVto 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] the earth is flat, says Muslim scholar

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Oh boy, the rise of the idiot squads. I'd like to hear him explain how 
the microphone in front of him works.  BTW, there are many in Iran 
including people who work at MEMRI who would think he is a joke or 
telling one.


On 12/30/2015 06:04 PM, feste37 wrote:


I will probably be accused of Arab bashing or Muslim bashing, but this 
is really pretty funny, Mind you, how many of us on this forum could 
explain why he is wrong?


Saudi Preacher Bandar Al-Khaybari Demonstrates: The Earth Does Not 
Revolve around Itself 





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[FairfieldLife] The Earth does not revolve around itself...

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

LiveLeak.com - Saudi preacher demonstrates: The earth does not revolve around 
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 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3fa_1424359053 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Earth is Being," Mean" 2 the Moon & we to it as well. But all 2 our greater present good! MEAN???

[William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]]

The moons gravity stretched the earth crust some 3 to just  under 4 ft at the," 
Terra's" equator daily. Erosion has mostly erased our cracks from our view. We 
can view the daily tides. At some time in the distant past when the Luna was 
much closer to Terra the tides were a mile plus in height & vastly slowed our 
daily spin & far more. These effect are lessened as the moon moves away from is 
but it  may well in our distant future come in to crash with us.
 there is on the east cost of the states a full eclipse of the moon this Sunday 
evening 8 PM to 11:30 PM or so see local times 4 such.



-Original Message-
From: 'mdixon.6569' mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>; FFL-2 
<ff...@yahoogroups.com>; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<fairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 1:12 pm
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] The Earth is Being Mean to the Moon


  
 
  
Hmmm, thought the moon rover was electric. 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
  
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone  
 
 
 
 Original message  
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>  
Date: 09/21/2015 11:23 AM (GMT-06:00)  
To: ff...@yahoogroups.com, "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
<fairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>  
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Earth is Being Mean to the Moon  
 

   
Must be global warming.
 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/22/science/earth-blamed-for-cracks-in-moon.html
 
 
  
  
  
  
 
 

[FairfieldLife] The Earth is Being Mean to the Moon

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Must be global warming.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/22/science/earth-blamed-for-cracks-in-moon.html

RE: [FairfieldLife] The Earth is Being Mean to the Moon

['mdixon.6569' mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Hmmm, thought the moon rover was electric.


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message 
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
Date: 09/21/2015  11:23 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: ff...@yahoogroups.com, "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
<fairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Earth is Being Mean to the Moon 


 



  



  
  
  Must be global warming.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/22/science/earth-blamed-for-cracks-in-moon.html






 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth entering new extinction phase

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 Cheers!
 
 The Earth has entered a new period of extinction, a study by three US 
 universities has concluded, and humans could be among the first casualties.
 

 I won't miss them, I hear they are a right bunch of idiots.
 
 http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33209548 
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33209548

[FairfieldLife] Mega-Earth Found

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Its year lasts for only 45 days.  How would you like to live in that planet?
 

 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/scientists-discovered-planet-thought-impossible-170448463.html
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/scientists-discovered-planet-thought-impossible-170448463.html

[FairfieldLife] No earth??

[cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Moving through space: By Samyama on the relationship between the body and space 
(akasha) and by concentrating on the lightness of cotton, passage through space 
can be attained. While sutra 3.40 described levitation, this sutra describes 
moving through space. 
 Note the quality of opposites: A universal principle is relatively easy to see 
in this sutra. The samyama is on the relationship between the body and space. 
This results in the body having a lightness that is likened to cotton. The 
samyama allows a releasing or a cessation of the process of heaviness or earth 
element. Then, the natural lightness is experienced. It is not that a new 
quality of lightness is being attained or added on. Rather, it is a ceasing to 
be connected with the quality of earth or heaviness of body. Over and over, 
this process or practice (1.2 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.2) 
of cessation of identity (1.4 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.4) 
is repeated until the Self comes shining through (1.3 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.3). 
 Attainments and obstacles: As with the other subtle experiences this is seen 
to be both an attainment and an obstacle, and is set aside (Yoga Sutras of 
Patanjali 3.38: What to do with subtle experiences 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm) with non-attachment (1.15 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-11216.htm#1.15). 
 
 
 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm 
 
 Yoga Sutras of Patanjali 3.38: What to do with subtle ex... 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm Yoga Sutras: Extensive practical 
explanations of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. The Yoga Sutras succinctly 
outlines Yoga Meditation for Self-Realiz...
 
 
 
 View on www.swamij.com http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth Cousin Found

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 This is another exoplanet that could host living beings, even humanoids.  But 
so far, SETI has not been able to trace any signs of communications data from 
the planet.  Even if we could send a greeting by radio, TV or digital 
transmission, it would take 490 years to get there.  So, we won't hear any 
reply from them until 980 years from now, assuming they're capable of hearing 
us and sending a message back.
 

 It's amazing how optimistic we humans are, what are the chances of another 
civilisation having the same sort of technology as us at the time our message 
arrives? Unbelievably small. But that's no reason not to try, and here's the 
funny thing: we don't try! Not much anyway, we just listen, we hardly ever send 
a messages to the stars. Partly because of the cost but also I suspect because 
the people that send them won't be around to hear the reply - if we even still 
have the tech to pick them up.
 

 What if everyone else is just listening instead of sending? Oops. But then we 
did receive a message once.
 

 It came in on the day Elvis died (no connection probably) and was identified 
as being unusual a few days later. The technician that collated the night's 
readings noticed the strength of the signal and wrote Wow! in the margin.
 

 What was interesting is that a few years earlier a group of scientists decided 
what the most likely methods intelligent aliens would use to communicate across 
space. They decided the hydrogen wavelength was the most likely as it's the 
most common element and they aliens would have to know that. The decided a 
modulated signal would indicate a complex message being conveyed.
 

 A few years later there it was! Exactly what was predicted. Trouble is, when 
they triangulated where the signal had came from there wasn't any star there. 
And it was never repeated despite much searching.
 

 So that was that. Our potential first contact was left as an unrepeated 
anomaly and forgotten. Or so I thought
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal

 

 There's a good bit at the bottom:
 

 In 2012, on the 35th anniversary of the Wow! signal, Arecibo Observatory 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_Observatory beamed a response from 
humanity, containing 10,000 Twitter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter 
messages, in the direction from which the signal originated. In the response, 
Arecibo scientists have attempted to increase the chances of intelligent life 
receiving and decoding the celebrity videos and crowd-sourced tweets by 
attaching a repeating sequence header to each message that will let the 
recipient know that the messages are intentional and from another intelligent 
life form.

 

 Cool. That's what being human is all about.
 

 
http://news.yahoo.com/found-first-earth-size-planet-could-support-life-181057158.html
 
http://news.yahoo.com/found-first-earth-size-planet-could-support-life-181057158.html
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth Cousin Found

[jr_esq]

If there are any advanced civilizations out there, maybe they're using another 
method of communication other than by using radio waves, which are limited by 
the speed of light.  They could be using the principle of quantum entanglement 
to communicate which would be instantaneous.  I'm not sure if SETI or NASA is 
capable of detecting any transmissions from this mode of communications.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 This is another exoplanet that could host living beings, even humanoids.  But 
so far, SETI has not been able to trace any signs of communications data from 
the planet.  Even if we could send a greeting by radio, TV or digital 
transmission, it would take 490 years to get there.  So, we won't hear any 
reply from them until 980 years from now, assuming they're capable of hearing 
us and sending a message back.
 

 It's amazing how optimistic we humans are, what are the chances of another 
civilisation having the same sort of technology as us at the time our message 
arrives? Unbelievably small. But that's no reason not to try, and here's the 
funny thing: we don't try! Not much anyway, we just listen, we hardly ever send 
a messages to the stars. Partly because of the cost but also I suspect because 
the people that send them won't be around to hear the reply - if we even still 
have the tech to pick them up.
 

 What if everyone else is just listening instead of sending? Oops. But then we 
did receive a message once.
 

 It came in on the day Elvis died (no connection probably) and was identified 
as being unusual a few days later. The technician that collated the night's 
readings noticed the strength of the signal and wrote Wow! in the margin.
 

 What was interesting is that a few years earlier a group of scientists decided 
what the most likely methods intelligent aliens would use to communicate across 
space. They decided the hydrogen wavelength was the most likely as it's the 
most common element and they aliens would have to know that. The decided a 
modulated signal would indicate a complex message being conveyed.
 

 A few years later there it was! Exactly what was predicted. Trouble is, when 
they triangulated where the signal had came from there wasn't any star there. 
And it was never repeated despite much searching.
 

 So that was that. Our potential first contact was left as an unrepeated 
anomaly and forgotten. Or so I thought
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal

 

 There's a good bit at the bottom:
 

 In 2012, on the 35th anniversary of the Wow! signal, Arecibo Observatory 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_Observatory beamed a response from 
humanity, containing 10,000 Twitter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter 
messages, in the direction from which the signal originated. In the response, 
Arecibo scientists have attempted to increase the chances of intelligent life 
receiving and decoding the celebrity videos and crowd-sourced tweets by 
attaching a repeating sequence header to each message that will let the 
recipient know that the messages are intentional and from another intelligent 
life form.

 

 Cool. That's what being human is all about.
 

 
http://news.yahoo.com/found-first-earth-size-planet-could-support-life-181057158.html
 
http://news.yahoo.com/found-first-earth-size-planet-could-support-life-181057158.html
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth Cousin Found

[salyavin808]

 That's another problem with radio waves, there are better ways to do it that 
the aliens might have thought of too. Highly focused lasers would be good too.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 If there are any advanced civilizations out there, maybe they're using another 
method of communication other than by using radio waves, which are limited by 
the speed of light.  They could be using the principle of quantum entanglement 
to communicate which would be instantaneous.  I'm not sure if SETI or NASA is 
capable of detecting any transmissions from this mode of communications.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 This is another exoplanet that could host living beings, even humanoids.  But 
so far, SETI has not been able to trace any signs of communications data from 
the planet.  Even if we could send a greeting by radio, TV or digital 
transmission, it would take 490 years to get there.  So, we won't hear any 
reply from them until 980 years from now, assuming they're capable of hearing 
us and sending a message back.
 

 It's amazing how optimistic we humans are, what are the chances of another 
civilisation having the same sort of technology as us at the time our message 
arrives? Unbelievably small. But that's no reason not to try, and here's the 
funny thing: we don't try! Not much anyway, we just listen, we hardly ever send 
a messages to the stars. Partly because of the cost but also I suspect because 
the people that send them won't be around to hear the reply - if we even still 
have the tech to pick them up.
 

 What if everyone else is just listening instead of sending? Oops. But then we 
did receive a message once.
 

 It came in on the day Elvis died (no connection probably) and was identified 
as being unusual a few days later. The technician that collated the night's 
readings noticed the strength of the signal and wrote Wow! in the margin.
 

 What was interesting is that a few years earlier a group of scientists decided 
what the most likely methods intelligent aliens would use to communicate across 
space. They decided the hydrogen wavelength was the most likely as it's the 
most common element and they aliens would have to know that. The decided a 
modulated signal would indicate a complex message being conveyed.
 

 A few years later there it was! Exactly what was predicted. Trouble is, when 
they triangulated where the signal had came from there wasn't any star there. 
And it was never repeated despite much searching.
 

 So that was that. Our potential first contact was left as an unrepeated 
anomaly and forgotten. Or so I thought
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal

 

 There's a good bit at the bottom:
 

 In 2012, on the 35th anniversary of the Wow! signal, Arecibo Observatory 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_Observatory beamed a response from 
humanity, containing 10,000 Twitter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter 
messages, in the direction from which the signal originated. In the response, 
Arecibo scientists have attempted to increase the chances of intelligent life 
receiving and decoding the celebrity videos and crowd-sourced tweets by 
attaching a repeating sequence header to each message that will let the 
recipient know that the messages are intentional and from another intelligent 
life form.

 

 Cool. That's what being human is all about.
 

 
http://news.yahoo.com/found-first-earth-size-planet-could-support-life-181057158.html
 
http://news.yahoo.com/found-first-earth-size-planet-could-support-life-181057158.html
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Mother Earth News on Fairfield Iowa

[Share Long]

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Nature-Community/2006-08-01/Great-Places-Fairfield-Iowa.aspx

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth at night from the International Space Station

[Susan]

I will check on the iridium flares - looks amazing.   I have seen the space 
station pass overhead many times, but only because I had the schedule for my 
area and was looking for it.  Go to: www.heavens-above.com/PassSummary.  You 
need to enter your location and time zone.  It will give you  dates and times 
and locations (which area of the sky it will appear in and what direction it 
will be traveling).  It is very accurate.

Thanks for the info on the flares.  I am passing it around...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Susan:  Are you talking about or have you seen an iridium flare?  One has 
 to be watching at the exact time, but they are very cool.  There was a 
 schedule for the flares at the star party I attended this year and we saw 
 several; one doesn't need a telescope to see them.  
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_flare
 
 
 The lower the magnitude number, the brighter the flare.  
 
 http://www.wikihow.com/Find-an-Iridium-Flare
 
 
 http://www.heavens-above.com/iridium.asp?Dur=1lat=0lng=0loc=Unspecifiedalt=0tz=CET
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Susan wayback71@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 8:44 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth at night from the International Space 
 Station
  
 
   
 
 You cans see the space station from earth by getting the time of its travel 
 over where you live nearly each evening.  I will get the link and post it 
 tomorrow morning. It looks like a bright, large star that moves fairly 
 quickly, bigger and brighter than the satelites you can see in the hight sky. 
  Amazing.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 
  Earth at night from the International Space Station
  http://vimeo.com/45878034
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth at night from the International Space Station

[nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 Earth at night from the International Space Station
 http://vimeo.com/45878034

 Nice pictures-thanks.
 Somehow, with all the people saying there are too many people, I don't get a 
crowded feeling seeing such pictures.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth at night from the International Space Station

[Susan]

You cans see the space station from earth by getting the time of its travel 
over where you live nearly each evening.  I will get the link and post it 
tomorrow morning. It looks like a bright, large star that moves fairly quickly, 
bigger and brighter than the satelites you can see in the hight sky.  Amazing.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 Earth at night from the International Space Station
 http://vimeo.com/45878034

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth Day at the Waterfront Park

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 Scenes from my walk this morning with original music.  Also there are 
 some scenes of my lemon tree, camellia tree, apple blossom, roses, 
 daisies, etc.
 
 http://youtu.be/2Er9w3HD8zk
 
 Enjoy!


Nice. What kind of camera and video editor did you use? Good job on the music 
too. I'm thinking about getting the new Cannon VIXIA HF M52. It's small, light 
weight and works well in low light. The Flip is fun but it has a very limited 
zoom function. With a Cannon you can see a bug's butt from 50 feet away. 

I have a Best Buy reward points that expire in June. It's weighing my decision 
to buy the camera sooner than later. Oh what the heck, I might as well get it, 
it will come in handy for a vacation I'm taking in June.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth Day at the Waterfront Park

[Bhairitu]

On 04/23/2012 12:39 AM, raunchydog wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@...  wrote:
 Scenes from my walk this morning with original music.  Also there are
 some scenes of my lemon tree, camellia tree, apple blossom, roses,
 daisies, etc.

 http://youtu.be/2Er9w3HD8zk

 Enjoy!

 Nice. What kind of camera and video editor did you use? Good job on the music 
 too. I'm thinking about getting the new Cannon VIXIA HF M52. It's small, 
 light weight and works well in low light. The Flip is fun but it has a very 
 limited zoom function. With a Cannon you can see a bug's butt from 50 feet 
 away.

 I have a Best Buy reward points that expire in June. It's weighing my 
 decision to buy the camera sooner than later. Oh what the heck, I might as 
 well get it, it will come in handy for a vacation I'm taking in June.

Thanks, the camera is a Canon ELPH 310 HS which is a inexpensive 
point-and-shoot.  But it far better than the Aiptek 1080p camera I was 
using.  The Canon does have optical telephoto and also shoots at 24 
fps.  It also has far less shutter roll than the Aiptek.  The Canon also 
does far better in low light which was useful at last night's birthday 
bash.  The Vixia is a good choice however you'd need to put that camera 
on a tripod to film a bug's butt at 50 feet. ;-)

A lot of the shots I took yesterday were zoomed in a bit and so any 
shake was more noticeable.   This is just an interim casual camera.  My 
last expensive camera was a Sony HD1 when it was released in 2005.  It 
has a very nice Zeiss lens on it but it uses tape and way behind 
compared to today's technology.  My choice for a more expensive camera 
would be a DSLR probably a Canon T3i since it has a reticulating 
viewfinder and you can change lenses for it.  And there is the Magic 
Lantern hack that adds all kinds of pro filmmaker features to Canon DSLRs.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth Day at the Waterfront Park

[authfriend]

Very nice, Bhairitu. I enjoyed!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 Scenes from my walk this morning with original music.  Also there are 
 some scenes of my lemon tree, camellia tree, apple blossom, roses, 
 daisies, etc.
 
 http://youtu.be/2Er9w3HD8zk
 
 Enjoy!

[FairfieldLife] The Earth Does Not Revolve Around the Sun

[John]

This guy's observation has merits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NH5yK3ZN54feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Mother Earth Oil Spill Invocation

[anatol_zinc]

Mother Earth Oil Spill Invocation

Why not try prayer? Everything else is not working !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQoEmmi4q7A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQoEmmi4q7A

Invocation For Mother Earth by Anrita Melchizedek
www.pleiadianlight.net. Music by Mike Hammer/Yahoel
www.michaelhammer.com Creative production by Adele Selina.

Invocation. I call upon the Company of Heaven,
Nature Intelligence and Mother Earth,
The Dolphins and Whales, and all Sea Beings of the Light,
To assist in calming the oceans of the this world,

To assist in stopping the bleeding of Grandmother Earth,
To assist all the sea creatures who have experienced distress,
And to stabilize the Ocean beds of the Earth plane,
Primarily in the Gulf of Mexico.

I connect through the Unity Grid of Light,
The crystalline grid of Light within and around this earth plane,
To all the Light workers and Beings of Light along this grid.
I assist through the Flame of unconditional Love,
In creating a vortex of Light within and around this area.
I bring through the Pink Flame of Love,
The Violet Transmuting Flame of Forgiveness and transformation,
And the White Light of the Christed One.

I am the Heartbeat of this Earth,
One with Mother Earth,
One with all Life.
I trust and surrender to all that Is,
Knowing the difference that I make as part of this Collective of Light.

I Am Wisdom
I Am Light
And I Am Love.
I Am the magnificence of Creation through Service in Love,
Bringing about changes to this Earth plane,
For all Life to live in harmony, peace, abundance, Love and through the
Grace of Mother/Father God.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth From The Middle Ages To The Space Age

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 Views of Earth From The Middle Ages To The Space Age
 
 NPR photo gallery,8 images.
 
 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123613649

Nice photos. I especially like #7, which puts 
things into a perspective gained neither from
the Nightly News, nor from Global Good News.

As a planet, we're just Not That Important. As
dwellers on it, even less so.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth From The Middle Ages To The Space Age

[Buck]

 
  Views of Earth From The Middle Ages To The Space Age
  
  NPR photo gallery,8 images.
  
  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123613649
 
 Nice photos. I especially like #7, which puts 
 things into a perspective gained neither from
 the Nightly News, nor from Global Good News.
 
 As a planet, we're just Not That Important. As
 dwellers on it, even less so.


Naw, you're way more important than that.

But

I like this photo below (link) for the same reason Carl Sagen gives in that 
#8 slide.  8 is a good quote about the awe. I like running this whalebanner as 
a screen saver for the same reason.


http://www.wdcs.co.uk/media/flash/whalebanner/content_pub_en.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth From The Middle Ages To The Space Age

[Hugo]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 
 
 Views of
 Earth From The Middle Ages To The Space Age
 
 NPR photo gallery,8 images.
 
 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123613649



Thanks for that, some of my favourite pics there.

The pale blue dot pic was Carl Sagan's idea, the voyager
probe was on it's way out of the solar system when he 
suggested turning it round to get a view of earth. The
other guys at NASA objected to it as unscientific and a 
waste of resources. Luckily Sagan's sense of wonder won
out as it never fails to send a shiver down my spine.

The photo earthrise (number 3) won a competition for best 
photo ever taken, voted by readers of several of europes 
top photo mags. Out of all the thousands of nominations it
was the only picture that wasn't taken by a professional 
photographer. William Anders did have a slight advantage
in being there though.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth could plunge into sudden ice age

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 Hmm, is this why we're having such a unusually cold fall in
California?

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34242705/?GT1=43001
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34242705/?GT1=43001


But it is unusually warm in Vermont :-(
Not enough snow yet !

OffWorld

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth could plunge into sudden ice age

[Bhairitu]

off_world_beings wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
   
 Hmm, is this why we're having such a unusually cold fall in
 
 California?
   
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34242705/?GT1=43001
 
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34242705/?GT1=43001
   

 But it is unusually warm in Vermont :-(
 Not enough snow yet !

 OffWorld
Are you going to have a drought?  California is in it's fourth year of a 
drought.  The water stasi is licking its chops too. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth could plunge into sudden ice age

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 off_world_beings wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  Hmm, is this why we're having such a unusually cold fall in
 
  California?
 
  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34242705/?GT1=43001
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34242705/?GT1=43001
 
  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34242705/?GT1=43001
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34242705/?GT1=43001 
 
 
  But it is unusually warm in Vermont :-(
  Not enough snow yet !
 
  OffWorld
 Are you going to have a drought?  California is in it's fourth year of
a
 drought.  The water stasi is licking its chops too.


Nah, there will never be a drought in Vermont. There are 4 -5,000 foot
mountains either side of a valley with a humongous fresh water lake that
is placed at just over sea level. That is one reason I chose to live
here. Climate change in North America (wether it is warmer, drier,
wetter, windier, or colder) won't affect Vermont much (we were the least
affected by the recession too.)

There is a great Goddess that lives in Lake Champlain, and she protects
Vermont from all the bad influances of the world.



OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] The earth with rings

[authfriend]

Neat animation of what earth would look like if it
had rings like Saturn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT2sQ7KIQ-E

The first part shows what it would look like from
space; but the best part shows how the rings would
appear from various locations on the surface,
including at night.

One thing the animation doesn't show that I'd love
to see is what it would look like with the rings
directly in front of the sun.

Would make a great science fiction story: how would
the earth's mythology and even history have been
affected if the planet had rings?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth Shakti

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 One of the things I am most thankful to the Rama guy
 I studied with for is introducing me to the practice 
 of surfing Places Of Power.
 
 I don't remember hearing much about Places Of Power
 in my time in the TM movement. If we went on pilgrimage,
 it was to a place we were journeying to for a course.
 In other words, for the people or events offered in the
 place, not for the place itself. If we felt anything
 different in a spiritual sense while on the course,
 we tended to attribute it to the people or the events,
 not to the place itself.
 
 Me, I enjoy just surfing the Places Of Power themselves,
 feeling their unique energies, and allowing them to flow
 through me. Journeying to such places is like getting a 
 hit of Earth Shakti, and can be (IMO) far more trans-
 formative spiritually than a hit of human shakti.
 
 Places Of Power are concentrated nexuses (nexi?) of 
 energy. When you meditate or hike there, you immerse
 yourself in that energy nexus as profoundly as you might 
 by sitting at the feet of some living spiritual teacher.
 
 The best such places -- like the best spiritual teachers
 -- have an energy that isn't static. It flows, constantly
 changing, keeping you on your toes to follow it *as*
 it changes. For example, the crater of Haleakala is 
 primarily about the energy of Silence. But -- as I tried
 to write about recently in the context of meditation -- 
 Silence isn't static. It flows, and grows into deeper 
 and deeper levels of Silence. On a hike through Haleakala, 
 if you are practicing mindfulness and watching the different 
 states of attention as they play across your mind, you will 
 notice not One but *hundreds* of levels of Silence. And by 
 noticing them and paying attention to them, that Silence 
 becomes more a part of your Silence.
 
 Other Places Of Power are more raucous or lively, charged
 with energies that one could describe as more occult. My
 favorite Place Of Power of that type is Canyon de Chelly. 
 Walking through that canyon in a receptive state of mind 
 can allow you to try on and wear dozens of occult states 
 of attention far more powerful than the sorcerers you read 
 about in fantasy novels or tales of Siddhas.
 
 Once you've grokked the energy of a particular Place Of 
 Power, and the effect that being there has on you, you
 can add that place to your arsenal of spiritual weapons.
 Feeling lethargic and low on energy? Just take a day trip
 to a Place Of Power that consistently leaves you feeling
 charged up and more energetic every time you go there.
 Feeling a little low on creativity? Go to a place that
 leaves your mind filled with creative thoughts every time
 you go there. 
 
 Could this be a placebo effect, and have nothing to do 
 with the energy of the place? Sure. But if it works,
 who gives a shit? The homeopathic sugar pill that cured
 my tinitis might have been only a sugar pill, with no
 traceable residue of the remedy it was based on. But 
 it worked. If the tinitis ever returns, I will slip
 another sugar pill under my tongue.
 
 Places Of Power *work*. And fortunately or unfortunately,
 no one can tell you where they are. A geographical loca-
 tion that gets you higher than a kite and brings on bouts
 of heavy witnessing or whatever you call a spiritual 
 experience may do diddleysquat for someone else. 
 
 You find your own Places Of Power by going to different
 places and practicing mindfulness, watching what you think
 about and what you feel when you are there. If you find a
 place in which you find yourself thinking cool things and
 feeling really good...duh...go back. If it happens again,
 and seems to happen consistently, you have found a Place 
 Of Power. For you. 
 
 You can take advantage of such places. Places Of Power
 are your friends along the spiritual path.


Nice post, Barry. You managed to get through it without slamming anyone.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth Shakti

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 On Sep 12, 2009, at 7:54 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  One of the things I am most thankful to the Rama guy
  I studied with for is introducing me to the practice
  of surfing Places Of Power. (...)
 
 My family has always stayed at a power place on the Canadian 
 shield over the summer, that also turned out to the UFO 
 sighting capital of Canada (in fact it's the area mentioned 
 in a song Huge orange flying boat rises off the lake, thousand 
 year-old petroglyphs doing a double take, pointing a finger at 
 eternity, some kind of ecstasy's got a hold  on me.). 

Know the Precambrian Shield well, but not the Bruce 
connection. That's cool. I would agree with his 
characterization of the energy nexus as ecstasy. 

 The petroglyphs seem to indicate some sort of communion with  
 an extraterrestrial species.

That's one way of interpreting them. I have found
petroglyphs all over the Southwest and even here
in Spain or in the south of France, but I would
never associate them with extraterrestrials. I
think they're far more interesting if created by
good, old-fashioned terrestrials like you and me
and for good, old-fashioned all-human reasons. 

 When I was 15 we spotted one of the HUGE UFO's floating at 
 the end of the lake. It looked like a star at first. It was 
 only years after the encounter that I realized, it had drawn 
 a pattern in the sky. So I used that pattern as part of my 
 nightly dream-yoga practice. It awoke me immediately into 
 contact. One of the things they first showed me was the 
 dakini net. This web of intelligence that was spread across  
 the globe. Wherever the nexuses were in the web was a power spot.

Cool, I guess. I have never seen a UFO or wanted 
to, but thought I had one night while in a Place
Of Power, Joshua Tree. My girlfriend and I had just
finished escaping from a tarantula the size of 
Cleveland when we looked up and saw a bright light 
in the night sky. And the thing was that it wasn't 
just hanging there in mid-air the way that a brick 
doesn't, it was growing larger and larger, and 
seemingly coming right at us. This went on for
some seconds, during which I will admit to wonder-
ing whether the aliens who were coming to abduct
to us would be offended that I was still wearing
yesterday's underwear when they went to probe me.

Finally the bright light swerved, and instead of
coming directly at us, turned to the right. At that
point we could see that it had been the landing 
headlights of a plane circling before landing at 
the Palm Springs airport. We laughed until we cried.

In a way I carried that experience into my spirit-
ual practice, too, because every time I remember
it I laugh again. And what's not spiritual about
that?

As for the rest of your rap, while I appreciate 
that it might be fun for you to speculate as to
what these Places Of Power are and what they mean,
that just doesn't float my boat. It is enough for
me to know that such outer places exist and that I 
can use them to shift my state of attention to 
shinier inner places. Why or how that happens 
has no interest to me.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth Shakti

[Vaj]

On Sep 12, 2009, at 9:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 On Sep 12, 2009, at 7:54 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

  One of the things I am most thankful to the Rama guy
  I studied with for is introducing me to the practice
  of surfing Places Of Power. (...)

 My family has always stayed at a power place on the Canadian
 shield over the summer, that also turned out to the UFO
 sighting capital of Canada (in fact it's the area mentioned
 in a song Huge orange flying boat rises off the lake, thousand
 year-old petroglyphs doing a double take, pointing a finger at
 eternity, some kind of ecstasy's got a hold on me.).

Know the Precambrian Shield well, but not the Bruce
connection. That's cool. I would agree with his
characterization of the energy nexus as ecstasy.

 The petroglyphs seem to indicate some sort of communion with
 an extraterrestrial species.

That's one way of interpreting them. I have found
petroglyphs all over the Southwest and even here
in Spain or in the south of France, but I would
never associate them with extraterrestrials. I
think they're far more interesting if created by
good, old-fashioned terrestrials like you and me
and for good, old-fashioned all-human reasons.



It's not petroglyphs in general, but the specific ones Bruce was  
referring to, which seem to show some sort of happening and people  
interacting with them. This is actually not that unusual. If there's  
an area where sightings presently occur, generally the native  
population in that area will have some legend or record of the same  
thing previously, whether it's fairy rings in Britain with people  
sometimes disappearing or some petrogylphs (as in this case) or a  
myth. The locals in Canada, we were surprised to find out, already  
knew all about them and could tell story after story.


In Tibet and the Himalaya they just see them as guardians of place,  
some worldly, some not. Some people see them, some do not. For some it  
might just feel nice in some way.



Cool, I guess. I have never seen a UFO or wanted
to, but thought I had one night while in a Place
Of Power, Joshua Tree. My girlfriend and I had just
finished escaping from a tarantula the size of
Cleveland when we looked up and saw a bright light
in the night sky. And the thing was that it wasn't
just hanging there in mid-air the way that a brick
doesn't, it was growing larger and larger, and
seemingly coming right at us. This went on for
some seconds, during which I will admit to wonder-
ing whether the aliens who were coming to abduct
to us would be offended that I was still wearing
yesterday's underwear when they went to probe me.

Finally the bright light swerved, and instead of
coming directly at us, turned to the right. At that
point we could see that it had been the landing
headlights of a plane circling before landing at
the Palm Springs airport. We laughed until we cried.


In this case, it was pretty clear it was something unusual, as it was  
two very large (as in blotting out stars) tetrahedrons base-to-base  
which made no sound.




In a way I carried that experience into my spirit-
ual practice, too, because every time I remember
it I laugh again. And what's not spiritual about
that?

As for the rest of your rap, while I appreciate
that it might be fun for you to speculate as to
what these Places Of Power are and what they mean,
that just doesn't float my boat. It is enough for
me to know that such outer places exist and that I
can use them to shift my state of attention to
shinier inner places. Why or how that happens
has no interest to me.


I wasn't really looking for an answer myself. It was the being's  
explanations, not mine. :-)

[FairfieldLife] 'Major Earth Shift Prediction'

[Robert]

'The Shifting Sands of Time'

August 8th, 29 (based on string theory, involved with gravitons, as well as 
farts benignity:
Over, under, around and through...
The magnificent surface of certain areas, of the Bluish Green Lavender Mia Maya 
Gaia.
Earth Mother; White Buffalo Woman, and all the rest, of 'Womanhood of Power'.
'Joan of Arc Archetype applies here.

At hand, in just a few days,
There will be a major earth shift...
I am not sure what this will be.
But, I keep getting this date,
As some kind of big shift...
Stay as calm as possible to soften the blow.
Something about planet earth?
Is about to shift.

r.g.


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Major Earth Shift Prediction'

[Ghanesh PV]

Jai SathGuru,
Dear Babaji, Did you come across webbot's 2009 summer Global coastal event
prediction?
Am not sure if your thought and global subconsciousness research prediction
are referring to same event, but I can feel big changes are here to happen,
its objective is for sure heaven on earth

Peace, peace
Wish you wonderful day
Ghanesh





On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Robert babajii...@yahoo.com wrote:



 'The Shifting Sands of Time'

 August 8th, 29 (based on string theory, involved with gravitons, as
 well as farts benignity:
 Over, under, around and through...
 The magnificent surface of certain areas, of the Bluish Green Lavender Mia
 Maya Gaia.
 Earth Mother; White Buffalo Woman, and all the rest, of 'Womanhood of
 Power'.
 'Joan of Arc Archetype applies here.

 At hand, in just a few days,
 There will be a major earth shift...
 I am not sure what this will be.
 But, I keep getting this date,
 As some kind of big shift...
 Stay as calm as possible to soften the blow.
 Something about planet earth?
 Is about to shift.

 r.g.

  

[FairfieldLife] 'Dakani- Earth Goddess'

[Robert]

[FairfieldLife] Dish Earth channel -- 212

[bob_brigante]

Dish satellite service has a channel showing the earth from their satellite 
22,000 miles out -- so far, I've only seen glare from the sun, but should be 
cool at times.

[FairfieldLife] Dish Earth channel -- 212

[bob_brigante]

  Dish satellite service has a channel showing the earth from their
satellite 22,000 miles out -- so far, I've only seen glare from the sun,
but should be cool at times.
http://www.homesfornh.com/dish-network-tv/blog/tag/dish-earth/
http://www.homesfornh.com/dish-network-tv/blog/tag/dish-earth/
UFOlogists, take note:

  [ufo] 
http://www.homesfornh.com/dish-network-tv/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/\
04/ufo.jpg

In a first-of-its-kind event, DISH Network has launched the DISH Earth
channel. A channel that will show our planet 24 hours a day, seven days
a week from the vantage point provided by DISH Network's EchoStar 11
satellite.

Orbiting some 23,000 miles above the Earth's equator, the stationary
satellite will provide DISH Network subscribers with stunning views of
our planet as the never-ending changes cross its surface. In addition to
the changes viewers might expect to witness such as the transition from
day to night (and vice versa) and wandering weather systems, some
speculate that the new camera may capture a passing UFO or two.

Launched during 2008, EchoStar 11 is positioned at 110 degrees west
longitude in order to provide television programming for DISH Network
customers who are inside the satellite's broadcast
footprint.

This development marks the first time in history that a camera has been
mounted on a commercial communications satellite. In development for six
years, the project was the result of a working partnership between DISH
Network, it's sister company EchoStar Spacecraft Operations Team,
Ecliptic Enterprises Corporation of Pasadena, CA, and Space
Systems/Loral. It is being operated under a license granted by the U.S.
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

We are pleased to be able to offer, exclusively to our customers,
footage from the world's only Earth-viewing live video camera on a
commercial communications satellite, said Dave Shull, senior vice
president of Programming at DISH Network. What's more, from time to
time, the DISH Earth camera is able to capture some unique images,
including an unidentified flying object last August.

UFO buffs with copious amounts of time on their hands may want to keep
watch in DISH Channel 212 for any other-worldly visitors that may be
buzzing out planet. DISH Network customers who also have DVRs could also
record hours of the new channel and later fast-forward through the
footage for any interesting phenomenon,

Sounds like it could be an interesting tool for the guys in UFO Hunters.

Before anyone gets the idea that I'm making light of UFOs, and worse
yet, those who investigate such things, I will admit that I find the
whole UFO phenomenon quite interesting and I never miss an episode of
UFO Hunters myself.

[FairfieldLife] Old? Earth Hour Pics...

[cardemaister]

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/03/earth_hour_2009.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 There is no theory for
 why the Moon is so precisely positioned to cover the
 Sun exactly -- just a happenstance, not a certainty
 of the Earth-Moon formation process.  In fact, it's
 a miracle.

And, as was shown in the video I posted a link to, 
the earth is also precisely positioned to cover the
sun exactly, from the moon's viewpoint.

Just one such arrangement between a star, a planet,
and the planet's satellite might be chalked up to
happy coincidence.

But *two*?

Astronomers tell us the orbit of the moon isn't
eternally fixed, but drifts slowly; that this precise
alignment wasn't the case eons before humans evolved
to see it, and will not be the case eons hence when
we're no longer around.

They say the real coincidence is that the tiny slice
of cosmological time in which there are humans on
earth *just happens* to be that which enables them
to observe the alignment in which the moon precisely
covers the sun (and to send a vehicle to orbit the
moon to observe the alignment in which the earth
precisely covers the sun).

I'm not buying it.

But I don't buy an Intelligent Designer having set
it up this way either, nor that there is an infinity
of different universes (talk about Occam's razor!).

There are just too many coincidences for us to be
here *at all* wondering why there are so many
coincidences.

There's something we're not getting...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[Duveyoung]

 authfriend wrote:
 Just one such arrangement between a star, a planet,
 and the planet's satellite might be chalked up to
 happy coincidence.
  But *two*? 
 Astronomers tell us the orbit of the moon isn't
 eternally fixed, but drifts slowly; that this precise
 alignment wasn't the case eons before humans evolved
 to see it, and will not be the case eons hence when
 we're no longer around.
 I'm not buying it. 
 There's something we're not getting...

Judy,

I'm not up on optics, but I believe that if the Moon covers the Sun
from an earthly POV, then the Earth MUST cover the Sun from a lunar
POV.  So you can't have one, but must have two equal POVs, so then
that would mean it's not a suspicious coincidence.  Not sure though. 
Anyone?

The Moon is moving about an inch per year away from us, so over time,
it's getting smaller and that means that someday it will be but a dot
crossing the Sun's disk instead of covering it completely.  

To me, it's not so much a red flag that God is afoot with tricks, but
that our having the Moon that is so close and so big compared to it's
parent planet was very rare and very lucky.  It helped life form in
many ways.

Edg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

  authfriend wrote:
  Just one such arrangement between a star, a planet,
  and the planet's satellite might be chalked up to
  happy coincidence.
   But *two*? 
  Astronomers tell us the orbit of the moon isn't
  eternally fixed, but drifts slowly; that this precise
  alignment wasn't the case eons before humans evolved
  to see it, and will not be the case eons hence when
  we're no longer around.
  I'm not buying it. 
  There's something we're not getting...
 
 Judy,
 
 I'm not up on optics, but I believe that if the Moon
 covers the Sun from an earthly POV, then the Earth
 MUST cover the Sun from a lunar POV.  So you can't
 have one, but must have two equal POVs, so then that
 would mean it's not a suspicious coincidence.  Not
 sure though. Anyone?

Hmm, you could be right. But I'm not sure either.

Even if it were, it's still suspicious, by me!

 To me, it's not so much a red flag that God is
 afoot with tricks,

Nor to me. But it's a red flag of *something*.

 but
 that our having the Moon that is so close and so
 big compared to it's parent planet was very rare
 and very lucky.  It helped life form in many ways.

Yupper. And civilization and culture as well.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 I'm not up on optics, but I believe that if the Moon covers the Sun
 from an earthly POV, then the Earth MUST cover the Sun from a lunar
 POV.  So you can't have one, but must have two equal POVs, so then
 that would mean it's not a suspicious coincidence.  Not sure though. 
 Anyone?
 
 The Moon is moving about an inch per year away from us, so over time,
 it's getting smaller and that means that someday it will be but a dot
 crossing the Sun's disk instead of covering it completely.  
 
 To me, it's not so much a red flag that God is afoot with tricks, but
 that our having the Moon that is so close and so big compared to it's
 parent planet was very rare and very lucky.  It helped life form in
 many ways.
 
 Edg


Yes, it is all about alignment of the earth, moon and sun and where
you are on the earth, or on the moon for that matter.  Simple
explanation here: http://star-www.st-and.ac.uk/~awc/eclipse.html

I had vague notions of being an astronaut when I was young.  Along
with a million other kids.  Loved astronomy.  

Sometimes I can weird myself out by thinking: How did all this come
together so perfectly that now I am sitting in a condo on Mustang
Island enjoying the internet?  Then again, I can think of all the
things that didn't come out so perfectly.  But the fact that nature
appears to operate within a set of rules is intensely fascinating and
mysterious. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[Duveyoung]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@...
wrote: 
 Sometimes I can weird myself out by thinking: How did all this come
 together so perfectly that now I am sitting in a condo on Mustang
 Island enjoying the internet?  Then again, I can think of all the
 things that didn't come out so perfectly.  But the fact that nature
 appears to operate within a set of rules is intensely fascinating and
 mysterious.

Hey, consider this:  The water pump is thought to be the reason for
the start of the Industrial Revolution because it made pumping out
mines easy and ores, salt, chemicals like sulfur, became cheap.

Now, here's the cool part: the Romans had all the technology to build
a water pump 2,000 years earlier, but it just never got invented
despite metallurgy and manufacturing being up to the task if someone
had had the concept come to them.

History is replete with this stuff.  Mendel's pea plant experiments
went unnoticed for 30 years for instance, and think of all the gizmos
that didn't require much technology to create, say, the Hula Hoop, the
Yo-Yo, the Frisbie, the yoke for horses, military use of gunpowder,
etc. -- they just didn't get manifested -- no reason for it except the
serendipity of chance favoring a prepared mind.

Edg

Edg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  The eclipse may look spectacular. But in jyotish, an eclipse 
  is not good for the country where the shadow is cast.
 
 Maharishi used to refuse to enter rooms in
 which chairs had been placed upside down.
 I assume you believe that is a valid reason
 for fear as well.
 
 What IS it about superstitious people that
 makes them believe that because they are
 afraid of more things than rational people,
 they're better or more knowledgeable or
 more evolved than the rational people?
 

There may be a scientific explanation for it.  We just haven't 
discovered it yet.  At present, we know that the power of the 
Sun is vital to life on earth.  Without its light, we would not be 
here, or life as we know it will end.

For practitioners of the TM-Siddhi, their samyama about the Sun utra 
should reveal to them the meaning of the eclipse, and how it affects 
the world as a whole.  Is there anyone who can share this knowledge 
with the group?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   The eclipse may look spectacular. But in jyotish, an eclipse 
   is not good for the country where the shadow is cast.
  
  Maharishi used to refuse to enter rooms in
  which chairs had been placed upside down.
  I assume you believe that is a valid reason
  for fear as well.
  
  What IS it about superstitious people that
  makes them believe that because they are
  afraid of more things than rational people,
  they're better or more knowledgeable or
  more evolved than the rational people?
 
 There may be a scientific explanation for it. We just haven't 
 discovered it yet.  At present, we know that the power of the 
 Sun is vital to life on earth. Without its light, we would not 
 be here, or life as we know it will end.

Every question is an opportunity for the answer
we have already prepared. - Maharishi

:-)
 
 For practitioners of the TM-Siddhi, their samyama about the Sun 
 sutra should reveal to them the meaning of the eclipse, and how 
 it affects the world as a whole. Is there anyone who can share 
 this knowledge with the group?

The fact that you would consider the subjective
perceptions or intuitions of TM siddhas to be
knowledge worthy of being shared with the
group is almost scarier than the fact that you
believe the shadow cast by an eclipse is malefic.

THIS is the reason that people like Jim stop 
reading books and start believing that anything
they feel is not only true but Truth. 
Maharishi presented an approach to knowledge 
that specified that not only was completely 
subjective perception or intuition valid know-
ledge, it was *more valid* knowledge than 
what can be objectively verified.

Again, while I *understand* that many still 
believe this, I do not. I trust my subjective
experiences and my intuitions to some extent, 
but I would never declare them as fact or as
knowledge. They are what they are -- mere
subjective experiences and intuitions. 

And, as such, they are worth diddleysquat. I at
least can admit this.

can you, John? Or are your subjective experiences 
and intuitions somehow on a higher plane, one 
that can legitimately be called knowledge?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[Peter]

Did you write that, emptybill?


--- On Thu, 2/26/09, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:40 AM














In outer yoga, sun and moon progressively illuminate the
fields of outer and inner activity and define the phases of expansion and
decrease.  

  

In inner yoga the unification of sun and moon means placing
them together (samadhi) into a state of equal balance.

  

In innermost yoga, the sun and moon are the signatories of
sequence (krama), defined either by temporal succession or vertical causation.
Whether balanced or imbalanced, the sun and moon thus define the fundamental 
mortality
and interdependence of a being or system.
 Within innermost yoga, the eclipse of the sun or moon signifies the occlusion 
of any temporality or causal contingency. This is a state of freedom. The 
instantiation
of this freedom is the immediacy of transcendence within the living presence of 
an
individual being. 

Or you could just smoke some weed and call it enlightenment. Other stoners will 
agree and this certainly will confirm it forever. 





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 In inner yoga, the unification of the sun and the moon is the goal:  
 samadhi.
 
 On Feb 25, 2009, at 8:24 PM, John wrote:
 
  The eclipse may look spectacular.  But in jyotish, an eclipse is not
  good for the country where the shadow is cast.




















 




  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[Vaj]

On Feb 26, 2009, at 3:17 AM, John wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:


The eclipse may look spectacular. But in jyotish, an eclipse
is not good for the country where the shadow is cast.


Maharishi used to refuse to enter rooms in
which chairs had been placed upside down.
I assume you believe that is a valid reason
for fear as well.

What IS it about superstitious people that
makes them believe that because they are
afraid of more things than rational people,
they're better or more knowledgeable or
more evolved than the rational people?



There may be a scientific explanation for it.  We just haven't
discovered it yet.  At present, we know that the power of the
Sun is vital to life on earth.  Without its light, we would not be
here, or life as we know it will end.

For practitioners of the TM-Siddhi, their samyama about the Sun utra
should reveal to them the meaning of the eclipse, and how it affects
the world as a whole.  Is there anyone who can share this knowledge
with the group?



I had clear experiences during the sun the moon and polestar  
siddhis. It would start as a beam of light the penetrated my body  
through the crown, and there was the perception that this light  
grounded in the earth. As it ascended out of the crown, it spread  
into an immense umbrella-like set of spokes which formed an umbrella- 
like web. Outside of this the different layers of the planets  
interpenetrated it. The atmosphere of the earth had similar, layered  
appearance, as did the crown of the head, where soma would pour  
through these gauze-like sieves.


An eclipse would correspond to the crown of the head.

Eclipses are generally thought to be very auspicious for performing  
certain sadhanas, as their power is magnified many times. In Vedic  
superstition, the opposite is the case.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[Vaj]

On Feb 26, 2009, at 12:40 AM, emptybill wrote:

Or you could just smoke some weed and call it enlightenment. Other  
stoners will agree and this certainly will confirm it forever.



Don't smoke too much.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[Vaj]

On Feb 26, 2009, at 3:33 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


For practitioners of the TM-Siddhi, their samyama about the Sun
sutra should reveal to them the meaning of the eclipse, and how
it affects the world as a whole. Is there anyone who can share
this knowledge with the group?


The fact that you would consider the subjective
perceptions or intuitions of TM siddhas to be
knowledge worthy of being shared with the
group is almost scarier than the fact that you
believe the shadow cast by an eclipse is malefic.



It's interesting the superstitiousness of patriarchal Brahmanic  
thinking (often the opposite of tantric mindsets) has definitely  
become not only part of the TM org mindset, but an often an  
unshakeable part of many TMers beliefs. Witness some of the  
superstitions we've seen here: garlic is antithetical to your  
meditation and your evolution--it's not a part of real Ayurveda  
(even though classic Ayurvedic texts praise it), no pets in the room  
while you meditate, women are unclean during their period, don't  
touch the Maharishi he's so much purer than us, all other meditation  
techniques are inferior, don't read Vedic or yogic texts it will only  
confuse you, only speak the sweet truth--no critical thinking, at  
least out loud, etc.


The most destructive spiritual communities are the ones where the  
teacher has no shadow, they are purity incarnate, but inevitably  
patriarchal, power-centered, destructive ego trips. The student, not  
being so pure and shadow free, must follow or believe in strange  
rules if they are too evolve. I see little humility in such spiritual  
leaders.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[authfriend]

All this discussion about eclipses of the sun
in Vedic and tantric lore is very interesting.

But the link in the initial post in the thread
is to a video of an eclipse of the sun by the
*earth* as seen from the *moon*, not an eclipse
of the sun by the moon as seen from the earth
(as the thread title indicates).

Somehow I doubt either Vedic or tantric lore
deals with such an eclipse.

Nothing wrong with changing the subject. I just
wondered if anybody had noticed that's what
happened.

It's really quite a knockout video, BTW.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/25feb_kaguyaeclipse.htm?
list967212

http://tinyurl.com/d7j7vf



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Feb 26, 2009, at 3:17 AM, John wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  The eclipse may look spectacular. But in jyotish, an eclipse
  is not good for the country where the shadow is cast.
 
  Maharishi used to refuse to enter rooms in
  which chairs had been placed upside down.
  I assume you believe that is a valid reason
  for fear as well.
 
  What IS it about superstitious people that
  makes them believe that because they are
  afraid of more things than rational people,
  they're better or more knowledgeable or
  more evolved than the rational people?
 
  There may be a scientific explanation for it.  We just haven't
  discovered it yet.  At present, we know that the power of the
  Sun is vital to life on earth.  Without its light, we would not be
  here, or life as we know it will end.
 
  For practitioners of the TM-Siddhi, their samyama about the Sun 
utra
  should reveal to them the meaning of the eclipse, and how it 
affects
  the world as a whole.  Is there anyone who can share this 
knowledge
  with the group?
 
 
 I had clear experiences during the sun the moon and polestar  
 siddhis. It would start as a beam of light the penetrated my 
body  
 through the crown, and there was the perception that this light  
 grounded in the earth. As it ascended out of the crown, it spread  
 into an immense umbrella-like set of spokes which formed an 
umbrella- 
 like web. Outside of this the different layers of the planets  
 interpenetrated it. The atmosphere of the earth had similar, 
layered  
 appearance, as did the crown of the head, where soma would pour  
 through these gauze-like sieves.
 
 An eclipse would correspond to the crown of the head.
 
 Eclipses are generally thought to be very auspicious for 
performing  
 certain sadhanas, as their power is magnified many times. In Vedic  
 superstition, the opposite is the case.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[billy jim]

Yes I wrote it but I was occluded. I admit it.

High sounding talk like that may seem pedantic but I 
figure meditating stoners will flip back and forth with it
in a bardo of felt meaning.

Who needs the immediacy of transcendence when you
can have felt meaning?

Reminds me of a sutra I heard somewhere -

Experience is not always what it seems,
Even skimmed milk parades as ghee.


 
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim emptyb...@... wrote:

 Yes I wrote it but I was occluded. I admit it.
 
 High sounding talk like that may seem pedantic but I 
 figure meditating stoners will flip back and forth with it
 in a bardo of felt meaning.
 
 Who needs the immediacy of transcendence when you
 can have felt meaning?
 
 Reminds me of a sutra I heard somewhere -
 
 Experience is not always what it seems,
 Even skimmed milk parades as ghee.

Yes, I know,
That is so.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 All this discussion about eclipses of the sun
 in Vedic and tantric lore is very interesting.
 
 But the link in the initial post in the thread
 is to a video of an eclipse of the sun by the
 *earth* as seen from the *moon*, not an eclipse
 of the sun by the moon as seen from the earth
 (as the thread title indicates).
 
 Somehow I doubt either Vedic or tantric lore
 deals with such an eclipse.

Wrong. The Vedas say: During an eclipse of the earth, Earthstruck
Moonlings should moon earth and chant Shine on Harvest Moon. During
an eclipse of the sun, Moonstruck Earthlings should stay indoors,
chant Fly me to the Moon, resist hornyness, and squash the urge to
run naked with howling packs of wolves, thereby preventing hyperactive
hair follicles and frequent shaving.

ECLIPSES OF THE SUN SEEN FROM THE MOON

...Just as the Moon does here, the Earth goes through its phases once
every 29.5 days. When the Sun crosses the meridian (the zenith for
observers on the lunar equator), the Earth is new, i.e., dark. When
the Earth is full the Sun is directly behind the Moon and it is night.
Sometimes, when the Earth is new, the Sun passes behind it and
observers see a solar eclipse.

During a solar eclipse the Sun moves behind the Earth at the same
speed as the Moon moves in front of the Sun during a solar eclipse on
Earth. But the Earth isn't orbiting the Moon and doesn't move across
the sky; rather, Earth's shadow is hanging there in space and the Moon
blunders into it. Lunar observers, though, see the shadow rushing
towards them across the ground, providing dramatic proof that the Moon
is moving relative to the Earth...

Read more: http://tinyurl.com/c3o3jv

 Nothing wrong with changing the subject. I just
 wondered if anybody had noticed that's what
 happened.
 
 It's really quite a knockout video, BTW.
 
 http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/25feb_kaguyaeclipse.htm?
 list967212
 
 http://tinyurl.com/d7j7vf

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[Duveyoung]

Maybe you don't know what you're losing when an eclipse happens.

I posted this paragraph awhile ago, but it pertains:

New concept: Once I took a Majorcan moonlight stroll with Maharishi
Mahesh Yogi -- along with about 200 others trailing him, and I don't
remember his words, but his concept was that the Moon was a powerhouse
of LOVE shining on all of us that night. Here's the new concept: if
Maharishi is enlightened, is pure love, then his loving the Moon was
what?wait for itwait.HIS OWN LOVE BEING REFLECTED OFF OF
THAT ORB. Enlightened persons are bright lights of some sort, right?
What they see in the world is what reflects back to them -- where
another pure soul is encountered, the reflection is most perfect and
the love sent is the least absorbed. I love this idea. Talk amongst
yourselves..it's buttah.

So, if that's true, all the love of humanity (not just a saint's love,
see?) that is sent to the moon is coming back at us, then consider
that an eclipse of the sun --  it's massive, the sun's worth about
4,000,000 moons, so get out your calculator to figure the amount of
love that one is suddenly bereft of when the Moon's shadow crosses
over head.

By the way, there is always a full eclipse at least two times per year
but never more than seven times per year.  The size of the spot on the
Earth is only 200 miles across, so the chances of having an eclipse
over any given spot on Earth is very very rare.  That's why folks fly
into the shadows instead of waiting for luck.  There is no theory for
why the Moon is so precisely positioned to cover the Sun exactly --
just a happenstance, not a certainty of the Earth-Moon formation
process.  In fact, it's a miracle.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  All this discussion about eclipses of the sun
  in Vedic and tantric lore is very interesting.
  
  But the link in the initial post in the thread
  is to a video of an eclipse of the sun by the
  *earth* as seen from the *moon*, not an eclipse
  of the sun by the moon as seen from the earth
  (as the thread title indicates).
  
  Somehow I doubt either Vedic or tantric lore
  deals with such an eclipse.
 
 Wrong. The Vedas say: During an eclipse of the earth, Earthstruck
 Moonlings should moon earth and chant Shine on Harvest Moon. During
 an eclipse of the sun, Moonstruck Earthlings should stay indoors,
 chant Fly me to the Moon, resist hornyness, and squash the urge to
 run naked with howling packs of wolves, thereby preventing hyperactive
 hair follicles and frequent shaving.
 
 ECLIPSES OF THE SUN SEEN FROM THE MOON
 
 ...Just as the Moon does here, the Earth goes through its phases once
 every 29.5 days. When the Sun crosses the meridian (the zenith for
 observers on the lunar equator), the Earth is new, i.e., dark. When
 the Earth is full the Sun is directly behind the Moon and it is night.
 Sometimes, when the Earth is new, the Sun passes behind it and
 observers see a solar eclipse.
 
 During a solar eclipse the Sun moves behind the Earth at the same
 speed as the Moon moves in front of the Sun during a solar eclipse on
 Earth. But the Earth isn't orbiting the Moon and doesn't move across
 the sky; rather, Earth's shadow is hanging there in space and the Moon
 blunders into it. Lunar observers, though, see the shadow rushing
 towards them across the ground, providing dramatic proof that the Moon
 is moving relative to the Earth...
 
 Read more: http://tinyurl.com/c3o3jv
 
  Nothing wrong with changing the subject. I just
  wondered if anybody had noticed that's what
  happened.
  
  It's really quite a knockout video, BTW.
  
  http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/25feb_kaguyaeclipse.htm?
  list967212
  
  http://tinyurl.com/d7j7vf

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[John]

The eclipse may look spectacular.  But in jyotish, an eclipse is not 
good for the country where the shadow is cast.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 Spectacular video of the earth eclipsing the sun
 from Japan's Kayuga lunar orbiter:
 
 http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/25feb_kaguyaeclipse.htm?
 list967212
 
 http://tinyurl.com/d7j7vf
 
 Keep watching even though the screen appears to be
 completely dark; at first, the moon is in the way.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 The eclipse may look spectacular.  But in jyotish, an eclipse is not 
 good for the country where the shadow is cast.
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  Spectacular video of the earth eclipsing the sun
  from Japan's Kayuga lunar orbiter:
  
  http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/25feb_kaguyaeclipse.htm?
  list967212
  
  http://tinyurl.com/d7j7vf
  
  Keep watching even though the screen appears to be
  completely dark; at first, the moon is in the way.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 The eclipse may look spectacular.  But in jyotish,
 an eclipse is not good for the country where the
 shadow is cast.

So I guess we'll be hearing bad news from the moon
shortly, then, eh?


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  Spectacular video of the earth eclipsing the sun
  from Japan's Kayuga lunar orbiter:
  
  http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/25feb_kaguyaeclipse.htm?
  list967212
  
  http://tinyurl.com/d7j7vf
  
  Keep watching even though the screen appears to be
  completely dark; at first, the moon is in the way.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 The eclipse may look spectacular.  But in jyotish,
 an eclipse is not good for the country where the
 shadow is cast.

So I guess we'll be hearing bad news from the moon
shortly, then, eh?


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  Spectacular video of the earth eclipsing the sun
  from Japan's Kayuga lunar orbiter:
  
  http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/25feb_kaguyaeclipse.htm?
  list967212
  
  http://tinyurl.com/d7j7vf
  
  Keep watching even though the screen appears to be
  completely dark; at first, the moon is in the way.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 The eclipse may look spectacular.  But in jyotish, an eclipse is not 
 good for the country where the shadow is cast.
 
snip
  As with a lot of this stuff, if you believe it, you are stuck with it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[Vaj]

In inner yoga, the unification of the sun and the moon is the goal:  
samadhi.

On Feb 25, 2009, at 8:24 PM, John wrote:

 The eclipse may look spectacular.  But in jyotish, an eclipse is not
 good for the country where the shadow is cast.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[emptybill]

In outer yoga, sun and moon progressively illuminate the fields of outer
and inner activity and define the phases of expansion and decrease.



In inner yoga the unification of sun and moon means placing them
together (samadhi) into a state of equal balance.



In innermost yoga, the sun and moon are the signatories of sequence
(krama), defined either by temporal succession or vertical causation.
Whether balanced or imbalanced, the sun and moon thus define the
fundamental mortality and interdependence of a being or system.




Within innermost yoga, the eclipse of the sun or moon signifies the
occlusion of any temporality or causal contingency. This is a state of
freedom. The instantiation of this freedom is the immediacy of
transcendence within the living presence of an individual being.





Or you could just smoke some weed and call it enlightenment. Other
stoners will agree and this certainly will confirm it forever.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 In inner yoga, the unification of the sun and the moon is the goal:
 samadhi.

 On Feb 25, 2009, at 8:24 PM, John wrote:

  The eclipse may look spectacular.  But in jyotish, an eclipse is not
  good for the country where the shadow is cast.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 The eclipse may look spectacular. But in jyotish, an eclipse 
 is not good for the country where the shadow is cast.

Maharishi used to refuse to enter rooms in
which chairs had been placed upside down.
I assume you believe that is a valid reason
for fear as well.

What IS it about superstitious people that
makes them believe that because they are
afraid of more things than rational people,
they're better or more knowledgeable or
more evolved than the rational people?


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  Spectacular video of the earth eclipsing the sun
  from Japan's Kayuga lunar orbiter:
  
  http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/25feb_kaguyaeclipse.htm?
  list967212
  
  http://tinyurl.com/d7j7vf
  
  Keep watching even though the screen appears to be
  completely dark; at first, the moon is in the way.
 

[FairfieldLife] Google Earth becomes a time machine

[TurquoiseB]

Ever wondered what ancient Rome looked like
from space? And in 3D? Wonder no more:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iTaV7Lu7CnTQBzTcpKnkVWMxIMbQD94DLDV80
or
http://tinyurl.com/6jj28t

http://earth.google.com/rome/index.html

Just the ticket for those with a somewhat...
uh...paranoid and self-important aspect to
their personalities. You can zoom down to
floor of the Colosseum and imagine yourself
dressed in gladiatorial garb, ready to fight
off the male-chauvinist pigs or barbarian
hordes from America sent to persecute you
and demonstrate how morally and intellect-
ually superior you are to them.

In other words, it's just like Fairfield 
Life, but with better decor.

[FairfieldLife] Google earth adds ocean view

[bob_brigante]

http://tinyurl.com/4lg3n2

[FairfieldLife] Photo: Earth and moon from Mars

[do.rflex]

It's a small world...

This is an image of Earth and the moon, acquired on October 3, 2007,
by the HiRISE camera on NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. 

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/214812main_EarthMoon-browse.jpg

[FairfieldLife] The Earth And Its People - lecture by Charlie Lutes

[do.rflex]

The Earth And Its People - 8/14/81

When on Earth, as in the present age, the number of demonic or
destructive people is rapidly increasing, as a result natural
disturbances are also increasing - such as cyclones, hurricanes, too
much heat, heavy snowfalls, volcanoes, tidal waves, earthquakes, etc.
The numbers of people murdered, robbed and injured also are
increasing. Countries where there is terrible unrest, riots,
revolutions,etc. indicate that these places are heavily inhabited by
such destructive people who are causing turmoil wherever they are. 

It is said that Mars and Saturn are impious planets and when they
shine brightly in the skies it is not a good sign. It is understood
that when there are constant disturbances on Earth it is a sign that
the destructive evil population is increasing, and as a result, fear
is generated among the good people and they do not know where to turn
for protection. 

The only place anyone can turn for refuge is to God.


If the unwanted destructive population continues to increase, the
Earth will become like hell. These destructive people are not
concerned with developing a trade or honorable profession in life;
rather they prefer to live on welfare or steal from others, and then
some deal in drugs, etc. to make a living from the misery of others. 

In essence, this is transferring Hell to this Earth. Destruction also
runs to higher levels of life such as those who would exploit the
resources of the world, pollute the rivers, lakes and oceans, and
destroy the forests, etc. for their own gain, regardless of who they
may injure. 

They would also wage war without any good reason except for personal
gain. Although there is a great price to pay for unnecessarily
disturbing the peace of the world, they plunge on in their destructive
ways creating their own particular hell and the hell to follow this
life. For one creating hell on Earth also creates his own hell in
afterlife.

Some on this Earth believe the power of God to be only material, and
in ignorance they pit themselves against this power. They also kill
and conquer people and nations in the guise of freeing the people only
to plunge them into slavery. This is why Christ said, Ye are of your
father the devil and his works shall ye do. 

Those who are on the spiritual path are seeking the light of God; God
will save them. All that is needed is devotion and perseverance. 

Even demons, when they are active in their destructive ways, believe
that their power is awesome and that God is hiding from them. Such is
the nature of their delusiveness. Again, they are very much disturbed
when there is a religious fervor or a spiritual wave among the people
for they fear this even though they do not know why or believe this.

Those of a demonic or destructive nature always believe that if they
have great wealth and power this will save them from the wrath of God.
They believe all on Earth to be their property. When it isn't, and in
countries where they try to drive God out and suppress religion, they
are never, ever successful. 

For a time they may appear to be successful on the surface, but below
the surface they are not really successful at all. There is, however,
a constant war going on between the negative forces and the positive
forces for control of the Earth. 

The Earth, like everything else, constantly fluctuates between the
three modes, or is a combination of the three modes of ignorance,
passion and Goodness. However, in the present time, the emphasis is on
ignorance and passion, with Goodness running a poor third. The highest
mode on Earth is Goodness, while the Almighty Creator and the Absolute
is pure Goodness, whereas on Earth there is no state of pure Goodness. 

In pure Goodness there cannot possibly be any contamination of
ignorance or passion. Hence, it is pure. The vibration would not
permit the expression of either lessor mode. 

The main thrust of humanity in life is to gain oneness with God, or
the pure light, and not become lost in the lesser expressions of
light. For what seems like the light to us is really, in the absolute
sense, still a lesser degree of darkness for we have not reached the
end of the tunnel.

When there comes a time of necessity on Earth an avatar comes and
straightens everything out. The word, avatar, means One who
descends, or God coming onto Earth. 

It is said that the Godly person is full of knowledge while the
destructive person is full of ignorance. Also, the main difference
between material enjoyment and spiritual enjoyment is that material
enjoyment has limitations and spiritual enjoyment has no end and it
keeps on increasing. 

The one great force that has the most binding influence on humanity is
the sex force. In its lower projection of lust it becomes demonic, and
there are those so caught up that they are possessed with a desire to
kill in their pursuit of lust. This is why we must always keep our
mind on God, or on the pure, because this protects us from becoming

[FairfieldLife] 'Current Earth Changes'

[Robert Gimbel]

 
August 25th, 2007
http://www.spiritli te.com/messages. php 
Greetings to each of you! I know this is a bit early - I thought I 
ought to get a follow up newsletter out since the changes that the 
Masters spoke of are coming earlier than the actual event they spoke 
of, the tear in the fabric of creation which begins on Sept 6th and 
maximizes on the 14th or so. They will fill you in below.

What are we experiencing? Holy cow what a ride we are on! I have 
heard from many, many people about changes that we humans are 
experiencing in preface to the actual shift. There is a lot of body 
pain, sharp shooting pains particularly in the head. Not headaches, 
shooting pains. Also the feet, particularly the balls of the feet are 
demonstrating pain, particularly after sleeping or standing after 
sitting for a while. Some people are getting burning in their feet. 
The foot stuff is directly related to the earthquake activity that 
has escalated just as the masters said it would. Hang onto your hats 
because the earthquake activity is about to ramp up. Please don't 
take this with a fearful perspective, just a head's up. Particularly 
if you are in an earthquake zone. Some people are feeling pain in 
their major joints, hips, elbows for the most part. Don't shoot the 
messenger, but these symptoms will most likely get worse before they 
get better.

Other symptoms of the current coming shift are sleepless nights 
(including yours truly!), appetite changes including not being hungry 
at all or being ravenous for several days at a whack. Weigh issues 
are on the rise, but that is mostly fluid retention based upon the 
energy influences. Remember, we are mostly created of water so when 
there are huge changes in the universe, our bodies are going to 
respond. Sometimes that means fluid gain for a while. This too shall 
pass. Another thing that is happening is brain fog. Jut try to think 
of that word you mean to say, or to recall someone's name, even 
though you know it as well as your own. 

The most intense for people have been the emotional ups and downs. 
That is rampant and there have been lots of arguments among people 
who just don't do that, misunderstandings like a mercury retrograde 
on steroids. Be sure to be very clear with what you say or do, then 
follow up even when it is with someone that you trust because pretty 
much everyone is affected with the energies right now.

The truth is that all in all the old paradigms are dying. They no 
longer work. I know that I said that before, but if whatever you are 
doing isn't working, look for new or creative ways to go about them. 
Mostly, please, look inside of you. Go into your hearts and ask the 
real you what you can do differently to avoid misunderstandings or 
taking things personally. Don't depend on anyone else for validation 
of your choices. Ask yourself how you can change old ways so that you 
are free of them. All it takes is making a different choice in a 
moment and lives change forever. Believe me, I know!

The positive side of all of this is that with the new energies are 
coming new and exciting teachings from the ethers. I know that many 
of you are experiencing new types of awakenings that are often 
profound. My advice is to stay out of your heads with this. Don't try 
to understand. Let the information free flow into you. When you need 
it, it will be fully present to you. You will wonder how you knew it!

Look closely to your dreams. There is a lot of night school going on 
right now. The guides are coming and the Masters are roaming the 
dimensions, sharing and caring and leaving us with what we need 
toward total recall of our light beingness. Also in our dreams, many 
of us are processing our day time lives big time. Look for the 
symbolism, don't take your dreams literally. Often your dreams will 
tell you volumes through symbols or things that represent something 
to you. What we can't always face in our waking time, our dreams will 
process with us.

Remember, through it all, that each of us is whole and perfect just 
as we are, no matter how the moment looks, if we are forcing or 
fighting anything we must look at what it is we are really doing., 
Usually it isn't at all about what we are uncomfortable with in the 
moment, but something, some issue, that we are carrying deep within 
us. Generally this is a fear that we just don't want to own, so it 
causes us dysfunction in our lives until we meet it head on and 
dispense with it. It isn't as hard as it sounds and we don't have to 
relive the pain of whatever experience in the past caused it. Just 
let go. Life is too short and there is so much beautiful for us all!

Well, I am thrilled to tell you that I finished Conversations with 
the Children of Now last night (Ya!) It comes out in February. I 
interviewed 15 kids for the book about life, death, love, God, 2012 
and many other subjects that we humans always want to know about. The 
children didn't let us down either! I know 

[FairfieldLife] 'Present Earth Changes'

[Robert Gimbel]

August 25th, 2007
http://www.spiritli te.com/messages. php 
Greetings to each of you! I know this is a bit early - I thought I 
ought to get a follow up newsletter out since the changes that the 
Masters spoke of are coming earlier than the actual event they spoke 
of, the tear in the fabric of creation which begins on Sept 6th and 
maximizes on the 14th or so. They will fill you in below.

What are we experiencing? Holy cow what a ride we are on! I have 
heard from many, many people about changes that we humans are 
experiencing in preface to the actual shift. There is a lot of body 
pain, sharp shooting pains particularly in the head. Not headaches, 
shooting pains. Also the feet, particularly the balls of the feet are 
demonstrating pain, particularly after sleeping or standing after 
sitting for a while. Some people are getting burning in their feet. 
The foot stuff is directly related to the earthquake activity that 
has escalated just as the masters said it would. Hang onto your hats 
because the earthquake activity is about to ramp up. Please don't 
take this with a fearful perspective, just a head's up. Particularly 
if you are in an earthquake zone. Some people are feeling pain in 
their major joints, hips, elbows for the most part. Don't shoot the 
messenger, but these symptoms will most likely get worse before they 
get better.

Other symptoms of the current coming shift are sleepless nights 
(including yours truly!), appetite changes including not being hungry 
at all or being ravenous for several days at a whack. Weigh issues 
are on the rise, but that is mostly fluid retention based upon the 
energy influences. Remember, we are mostly created of water so when 
there are huge changes in the universe, our bodies are going to 
respond. Sometimes that means fluid gain for a while. This too shall 
pass. Another thing that is happening is brain fog. Jut try to think 
of that word you mean to say, or to recall someone's name, even 
though you know it as well as your own. 

The most intense for people have been the emotional ups and downs. 
That is rampant and there have been lots of arguments among people 
who just don't do that, misunderstandings like a mercury retrograde 
on steroids. Be sure to be very clear with what you say or do, then 
follow up even when it is with someone that you trust because pretty 
much everyone is affected with the energies right now.

The truth is that all in all the old paradigms are dying. They no 
longer work. I know that I said that before, but if whatever you are 
doing isn't working, look for new or creative ways to go about them. 
Mostly, please, look inside of you. Go into your hearts and ask the 
real you what you can do differently to avoid misunderstandings or 
taking things personally. Don't depend on anyone else for validation 
of your choices. Ask yourself how you can change old ways so that you 
are free of them. All it takes is making a different choice in a 
moment and lives change forever. Believe me, I know!

The positive side of all of this is that with the new energies are 
coming new and exciting teachings from the ethers. I know that many 
of you are experiencing new types of awakenings that are often 
profound. My advice is to stay out of your heads with this. Don't try 
to understand. Let the information free flow into you. When you need 
it, it will be fully present to you. You will wonder how you knew it!

Look closely to your dreams. There is a lot of night school going on 
right now. The guides are coming and the Masters are roaming the 
dimensions, sharing and caring and leaving us with what we need 
toward total recall of our light beingness. Also in our dreams, many 
of us are processing our day time lives big time. Look for the 
symbolism, don't take your dreams literally. Often your dreams will 
tell you volumes through symbols or things that represent something 
to you. What we can't always face in our waking time, our dreams will 
process with us.

Remember, through it all, that each of us is whole and perfect just 
as we are, no matter how the moment looks, if we are forcing or 
fighting anything we must look at what it is we are really doing., 
Usually it isn't at all about what we are uncomfortable with in the 
moment, but something, some issue, that we are carrying deep within 
us. Generally this is a fear that we just don't want to own, so it 
causes us dysfunction in our lives until we meet it head on and 
dispense with it. It isn't as hard as it sounds and we don't have to 
relive the pain of whatever experience in the past caused it. Just 
let go. Life is too short and there is so much beautiful for us all!

Well, I am thrilled to tell you that I finished Conversations with 
the Children of Now last night (Ya!) It comes out in February. I 
interviewed 15 kids for the book about life, death, love, God, 2012 
and many other subjects that we humans always want to know about. The 
children didn't let us down either! I know 

[FairfieldLife] 'Google Earth get intimate...'

[Robert Gimbel]

July 21, 2007 9:27 PM PDT Google acquires ImageAmerica to boost mapping 
 Posted by  Stephen Shankland  
Google has acquired ImageAmerica, a company that builds 
high-resolution cameras and uses them to take aerial photographs. 
(Credit: Google)
  The search engine giant announced the move Friday on its LatLong blog about  
Google Earth and its other mapping efforts. It didn't disclose terms of the 
deal. 
 We're excited about how ImageAmerica's technology will contribute to our 
mapping services down the road, Product Manager Stephen Chau said on the blog. 
Since we're in the research and development phase right now it may be some 
time before you see any of this imagery in Google Maps or Earth. 
 ImageAmerica supplied Google Earth with high-resolution aerial photos of New 
Orleans after Hurricane Katrina struck in 2005. 
 According to older pages from the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine, Clayton, 
Mo.-based ImageAmerica specialized in creating aerial photos with accuracy, 
quick delivery and low cost, selling primarily to city, county, state and 
federal governments and to corporate customers. In addition to developing its 
DDP-2 (Direct Digital Panoramic) camera system, the company has its own 
aircraft to house it. The high-resolution camera can capture details as small 
as 6 to 12 inches, and the company's processing system can produce 
orthorectified imagery that's been corrected for perspective distortions. 
 Google has extensive efforts under way to add geographic data to its already 
vast repository of information. Its Google Earth application lets users view 
satellite imagery, and its Google Maps service provides aerial views as well. 
Google also has begun integrating street-level views into its maps, a move that 
has raised some privacy hackles. 
 


   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Live Earth Concert- 9 million internet streams for MSN'

[Bhairitu]

I watched a little of it.  Enough to remind me of how little of this 
stuff is music anymore but corporate contrived sound pieces.  The 
choreography, especially Madonna's, looked like it was a high school 
cheerleader routine.  Of course I'm arrogant because I'm a classically 
trained musician who created dumbed down pieces for some of the rock 
groups I played in.  Thus I know how the scheme works.  Ironic to watch 
Chevrolet sponsor the show on NBC which BTW had a lower bitrate feed and 
thus poorer sound than Universal HD (also a part of GE owned NBC).

Robert Gimbel wrote:
 EAST RUTHERFORD, New Jersey (Reuters) - The Live Earth global pop concerts on 
 Saturday broke a record for an online entertainment show by generating more 
 than 9 million Internet streams, Microsoft Corp. Web portal MSN said.
   As the last two of the nine Live Earth concerts got underway, MSN product 
 manager Karin Muskopf said the number of streams had surpassed the previous 
 record held by 2005's Live 8 global concerts to fight poverty.
   We have exceeded any other online entertainment event, Muskopf said. 
 It's really exciting to see the enthusiasm for the concert.
   An Internet stream is when a person watches on a computer. People can 
 stream an event more than once -- by switching it on and off -- so 9 million 
 streams does not necessarily mean 9 million people watching, MSN said.
   Live 8 was the first major multi-venue event successfully streamed live 
 with Time Warner Inc.'s AOL portal on the Web. AOL said 5 million people had 
 logged on to the event on the day of those shows, but it did not say how many 
 Internet streams of the event there had been.
   MSN said it would not be able to immediately determine the number of people 
 who logged on to Live Earth.
   Control Room, producer of Live Earth and Live 8, said it found that the 
 on-demand streams in the days after the Live 8 had the most impact, 
 especially after clips were passed around by e-mail.
   Live 8 was streamed by users more than 100 million times in the six weeks 
 following the shows.
   Live Earth is predicted to be three times bigger with organizers expecting 
 more than 80 percent of the viewership will be on-demand in the days after 
 the event.


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[FairfieldLife] Live Earth drumming

[curtisdeltablues]

Rick and other lovers of the drum.  Check this out:

http://entimg.msn.com/i/ExperienceData/p1-7/us/x.htm?sh=LiveEarthep=le_london

[FairfieldLife] 'Live Earth Concert- 9 million internet streams for MSN'

[Robert Gimbel]

EAST RUTHERFORD, New Jersey (Reuters) - The Live Earth global pop concerts on 
Saturday broke a record for an online entertainment show by generating more 
than 9 million Internet streams, Microsoft Corp. Web portal MSN said.
  As the last two of the nine Live Earth concerts got underway, MSN product 
manager Karin Muskopf said the number of streams had surpassed the previous 
record held by 2005's Live 8 global concerts to fight poverty.
  We have exceeded any other online entertainment event, Muskopf said. It's 
really exciting to see the enthusiasm for the concert.
  An Internet stream is when a person watches on a computer. People can stream 
an event more than once -- by switching it on and off -- so 9 million streams 
does not necessarily mean 9 million people watching, MSN said.
  Live 8 was the first major multi-venue event successfully streamed live with 
Time Warner Inc.'s AOL portal on the Web. AOL said 5 million people had logged 
on to the event on the day of those shows, but it did not say how many Internet 
streams of the event there had been.
  MSN said it would not be able to immediately determine the number of people 
who logged on to Live Earth.
  Control Room, producer of Live Earth and Live 8, said it found that the 
on-demand streams in the days after the Live 8 had the most impact, especially 
after clips were passed around by e-mail.
  Live 8 was streamed by users more than 100 million times in the six weeks 
following the shows.
  Live Earth is predicted to be three times bigger with organizers expecting 
more than 80 percent of the viewership will be on-demand in the days after the 
event.

   
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[FairfieldLife] 'Live Earth Feed- Streaming on Internet Explorer'

[Robert Gimbel]

  ~+ Live Earth Feed+~
   
   
  
http://entimg.msn.com/i/ExperienceData/p1-7/en-us/x.htm?sh=LiveEarthLiveg=9f240073-cf25-4402-bbb0-bd77c597c4abf=fg=email

   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Live Earth Feed- Streaming on Internet Explorer'

[Bhairitu]

Robert Gimbel wrote:
   ~+ Live Earth Feed+~


   
 http://entimg.msn.com/i/ExperienceData/p1-7/en-us/x.htm?sh=LiveEarthLiveg=9f240073-cf25-4402-bbb0-bd77c597c4abf=fg=email


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[FairfieldLife] Habitable earth-like Exo-planet found

[Jason Spock]

 
  Distant planet judged possibly habitable
   
  April 23, 2007
Courtesy ESO 
and World Science staff
   
  In a findshy;ing that if conshy;firmed could stand as a landshy;mark in 
history, asshy;troshy;noshy;mers have reshy;ported 
disshy;coshy;vshy;ershy;ing the most Earth-like planshy;et outshy;side 
our Soshy;lar Sysshy;tem to date: a world that may have liqshy;uid oceans 
and thus life.

Swiss, French and Porshy;tushy;guese scishy;enshy;tists found the body, 
esshy;tishy;mated as 50 pershy;cent widshy;er than our Earth, 
orshy;bitshy;ing a so-called red dwarf star relshy;ashy;tively close to 
Earth. The star is thought to harshy;bor two othshy;er planshy;ets alshy;so.


 Artist's imshy;presshy;sion of a sysshy;tem of 
three planshy;ets surshy;roundshy;ing the red dwarf Gliese 581. 
(Courshy;teshy;sy ESO)
  
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  The newshy;found exoshy;plashy;nshy;et—as asshy;troshy;noshy;mers call 
planshy;ets around stars othshy;er than the Sun—would be the smallshy;est 
such body evshy;er reshy;ported. 

Noneshy;theshy;less, the object is esshy;tishy;matshy;ed to weigh as much 
as five Earths, partshy;ly thanks to its greatshy;er width. For the same 
reashy;son, it would have more than twice Earth’s surshy;face arshy;ea. 
Hisshy;torshy;ishy;cally, only large exoshy;plashy;nshy;ets lend 
themshy;selves to hushy;man deshy;tectshy;ion, though that is changshy;ing.

Othshy;er cushy;rishy;ous feashy;tures of the newshy;found planshy;et are 
that gravshy;ishy;ty at its surshy;face would be around twice as strong as 
on Earth; and its year is just 13 Earth days long, as it compshy;letes one 
orshy;bit about its sun in that time.

It’s 14 times closshy;er to its star than we are from our Sun, 
reshy;searchshy;ers said. But since its host star, the red dwarf Gliese 581, 
is smaller and coolshy;er than the Sun, the planshy;et nevshy;ertheless 
would lie in its habshy;itshy;ashy;ble zone—the reshy;gion around a star 
with suitshy;ashy;ble temshy;peshy;rshy;ashy;tures for liqshy;uid 
washy;ter. 

Avshy;ershy;age temshy;peshy;rshy;ashy;tures on this “supeshy;r-Earth” 
lie beshy;tween 0 and 40 deshy;grees Celshy;sishy;us (32 to 104 
deshy;grees Fahrenshy;heit), “and washy;ter would thus be liqshy;uid,” said 
Stéshy;phane Udry of Switzshy;ershy;land’s Geshy;neshy;va 
Obshy;servshy;ashy;toshy;ry, lead aushy;thor of a pashy;peshy;r 
reshy;portshy;ing the reshy;sult. “Modshy;els preshy;dict that the 
planshy;et should be eishy;ther rockshy;y—like our Earth—or covshy;ered 
with oceans,” he added.

“Liqshy;uid washy;ter is critshy;ishy;cal to life as we know it,” 
notshy;ed Xashy;vishy;er Delfosse, a memshy;ber of the team from 
Greshy;noshy;ble Unishy;vershy;sishy;ty, France. “Beshy;cause of its 
temshy;peshy;rshy;ashy;ture and relshy;ashy;tive 
proxshy;imshy;ishy;ty, this planshy;et will most probshy;ashy;bly be a 
very imshy;porshy;tant tarshy;get of the fushy;ture space misshy;sions 
dedshy;ishy;catshy;ed to the search for extra-terrestrial life. On the 
treasshy;ure map of the Unishy;verse, one would be tempted to mark this 
planshy;et with an X.” 


The arshy;row marks the apshy;proxshy;ishy;mate 
loshy;cashy;tion of the red dwarf star Gliese 581 with reshy;spect to the 
conshy;stelshy;lashy;tion Lishy;bra vishy;sishy;ble in the southshy;ern 
sky. 
  
-
  
  The host star, Gliese 581, is among the 100 closshy;est stars to us, 
lyshy;ing 20.5 light-years away in the conshy;stelshy;lashy;tion Lishy;bra 
(“the Scales.”) A light-year is the disshy;tance light travshy;els in a year. 

Gliese 581 has one third the mass of our Sun. Such small stars, called red 
dwarfs, are at least 50 times faintshy;er than the Sun and are beshy;lieved 
to be the most comshy;mon stars in our galshy;axy. Among the 100 closshy;est 
stars to the Sun, 80 beshy;long to this class.

“Red dwarfs are ideshy;al tarshy;gets for the search for such planshy;ets 
beshy;cause they emit less light, and the habshy;itshy;ashy;ble zone is 
thus much closshy;er to them than it is around the Sun,” said Xashy;vishy;er 
Bonshy;fils, a co-reshy;searcher from Lisshy;bon Unishy;vershy;sishy;ty. 
Planshy;ets near a star are easshy;ishy;er to deshy;tect beshy;cause their 
gravshy;ishy;tashy;tionshy;al pull afshy;fects the parshy;ent star 
noshy;ticeshy;ably, inshy;ducshy;ing someshy;thing of a wigshy;gling 
moshy;tion.

Red dwarfs are alshy;so exshy;pected to live 
exshy;traorshy;dishy;narshy;ily long beshy;cause they burn fushy;el 
slowshy;ly. A red dwarf one-third the Sun’s mass, like Gliese 581, would 
typshy;ishy;calshy;ly shine for some 130 bilshy;lion years, 
outshy;livshy;ing the Sun by thirshy;teen times. That might reshy;lieve at 
least one source of stress for any inshy;habshy;ishy;tants of a red dwarf 
sysshy;tem. We on Earth are alshy;ready halfshy;way through the Sun’s 
lifeshy;time, though much time reshy;mains.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth Carrying Capacity

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jul 4, 2006, at 5:06 PM, new.morning wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  8.  And of course the root of the problem *is* overpopulation.
 
  I was struck when reading some time ago about population estimates of
  ancient cultures. Vedic India was about 100,000. No wonder it was a
  golden age!
 
 Peter Russell in his Global Brain hypothesized that what would  
 happen would be a leap to global collective consciousness when  
 humanity reached a population of about 10 billion, as this would  
 coincide with increasing interest in mediation and higher states of  
 consciousness by greater and greater numbers of humanity.
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth Carrying Capacity

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On Jul 4, 2006, at 6:30 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   On Jul 4, 2006, at 5:06 PM, new.morning wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:  8.  And of course the root of the problem *is* overpopulation.  I was struck when reading some time ago about population estimates of ancient cultures. Vedic India was about 100,000. No wonder it was a golden age!  Peter Russell in his "Global Brain" hypothesized that what would   happen would be a leap to global collective consciousness when   humanity reached a population of about 10 billion, as this would   coincide with increasing interest in mediation and higher states of   consciousness by greater and greater numbers of humanity.   I am sure you probably know this, but just in case, you know Peter is an old time TM initiator? Yes, of course, that's why I bought the book and got the video originally.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

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On Nov 13, 2005, at 11:49 PM, sparaig wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Nov 13, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Jason Spock wrote:

 Why does the TM-org rabidly criticise Deepak Chopra and Sri
 Sri. Ravishankar.??  TM-governors claim MMY called him Sugar-
 Caned
 poison.??

 Duh. One word: competition. Falling mantra sales doesn't make M.
 happy. Isn't that obvious?

 Of course, it's also easy to rationalize it as some sort of cosmic
 scenario.


 I have NEVER heard anyone claim that MMY ever said anything ill about
 Chopra.

I assumed he was talking about SSRS. Perhaps Jason can clarify who  
this comment was about, Chopra or SSRS?



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

[Peter]

Yes, yes, it's all so true. SSRS is a fraud. Thank God
we all know that now. Spending all that time with MMY
from the age of 12 onwards must have had some sort of
impact on him. IT IS SO TRUE THAT, MEDITATORS SHOULD
WATCH OUT FOR SWEET POISON.


--- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
Yes, he was talking about SSRS.  Re-Certified
 TM-governor Frank Lotz mentioned it. Here below
  
 From:  frank lotz [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:37:46 +0100 (CET) 
 The Bigger Picture - Sri Sri. RaviShankar 
 
   Maharishis commentary on ravi, the so called
 shankar:  Sugar caned poison.
  
   He is from my point of view a bad imitator of
 our Divine Master His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh
 Yogi, despite of all his (ravis) so called success,
 only superficial, not much lasting influence!
 
   Lets take recourse to Maharishis Vedic
 Tradition, whether you call me fanatic or not,
 that’s the point!
 
   Râm 
   Frank Lotz
 
 
 
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 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:02:50 -0500 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around
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 (TM) for a handful of spinach...) 
 
  I assumed he was talking about SSRS. Perhaps
 Jason can clarify who this comment was about, Chopra
 or SSRS?
 
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

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On Nov 14, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Peter wrote:Yes, yes, it's all so true. SSRS is a fraud. Thank God we all know that now. Spending all that time with MMY from the age of 12 onwards must have had some sort of impact on him. IT IS SO TRUE THAT, "MEDITATORS SHOULD WATCH OUT FOR SWEET POISON." I don't think that's the point. The point is it shows the extreme jealousy of M. who obviously can't deal with the loss of his movement to SSRS's now larger and more vital movement...so he puts SSRS down to his few remaining students. Not surprising, but not the greatest thing one would want to hear.Kinda like McDonald's bitching about Burger King.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

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 Hey man, remember, I have nothing to do with this. Some Charlie who calls himself re-certified governor, says it came from Maharishi himself.

 Some months back, some Charlie misunderstood my post and gave me a bloody nose with his insultomatic, the incident had made me nervous ever since.

From: "Peter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 04:20:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...) 
  Yes, yes, it's all so true. SSRS is a fraud. Thank Godwe all know that now. Spending all that time with MMYfrom the age of 12 onwards must have had some sort ofimpact on him. 
 IT IS SO TRUE THAT, "MEDITATORS SHOULD WATCH OUT FOR SWEET POISON."
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

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No problems Jason. I was reacting more to the
knee-jerk comment by a TB who blindly follows any
dictate of an authority figure.

--- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 Hey man, remember, I have nothing to do with
 this.  Some Charlie who calls himself re-certified
 governor, says it came from Maharishi himself.
  
 Some months back, some Charlie misunderstood my
 post and gave me a bloody nose with his
 insultomatic, the incident had made me nervous ever
 since.
  
 From:  Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 04:20:21 -0800 (PST) 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around
 the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond
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 Yes, yes, it's all so true. SSRS is a fraud.
 Thank God
 we all know that now. Spending all that time with
 MMY
 from the age of 12 onwards must have had some sort
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 14, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Peter wrote:
 
  Yes, yes, it's all so true. SSRS is a fraud. Thank God
  we all know that now. Spending all that time with MMY
  from the age of 12 onwards must have had some sort of
  impact on him. IT IS SO TRUE THAT, MEDITATORS SHOULD
  WATCH OUT FOR SWEET POISON.
 
 I don't think that's the point. The point is it shows the extreme  
 jealousy of M. who obviously can't deal with the loss of his
 movement to SSRS's now larger and more vital movement...so he puts 
 SSRS down to his few remaining students. Not surprising, but not the 
 greatest thing one would want to hear.

For the record, the sweet poison warning goes
at least as far back as 1998 and referred 
specifically to a hyperventilation-type breathing
technique Shankar taught (called, I believe, 
Sudarshan Kriya).

According to someone on alt.m.t who had spent time
in Shankar's ashram in 1978, Shankar had only broken
with the TMO fairly recently at the time the person
was posting in 1994.  He was said then not to be
interested in starting a movement (and was known as
Pundit Ravi Shankar; Sri Sri apparently came later).

The point being that at the time MMY issued the
sweet poison warning, probably around 1994, the
TMO was still in full swing, and Shankar apparently
did not pose any kind of major threat in terms of
even starting a movement of his own, let alone one
that could compete with the TMO.

Perhaps MMY foresaw that he would do so, but that
doesn't appear to have been evident at the time.

In any case, contrary to Vaj's suggestion, the
sweet poison warning about the hyperventilation
technique is hardly a recent development.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

[Peter]

--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 14, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Peter wrote:
 
  Yes, yes, it's all so true. SSRS is a fraud. Thank
 God
  we all know that now. Spending all that time with
 MMY
  from the age of 12 onwards must have had some sort
 of
  impact on him. IT IS SO TRUE THAT, MEDITATORS
 SHOULD
  WATCH OUT FOR SWEET POISON.
 
 I don't think that's the point. The point is it
 shows the extreme  
 jealousy of M. who obviously can't deal with the
 loss of his movement  
 to SSRS's now larger and more vital movement...so he
 puts SSRS down  
 to his few remaining students. Not surprising, but
 not the greatest  
 thing one would want to hear.
 
 Kinda like McDonald's bitching about Burger King.

The only difference is that the president of McDonalds
and the president of Burger King are actually great
friends and talk to each other privately.



 
 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  On Nov 14, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Peter wrote:
  
   Yes, yes, it's all so true. SSRS is a fraud. Thank God
   we all know that now. Spending all that time with MMY
   from the age of 12 onwards must have had some sort of
   impact on him. IT IS SO TRUE THAT, MEDITATORS SHOULD
   WATCH OUT FOR SWEET POISON.
  
  I don't think that's the point. The point is it shows the 
extreme  
  jealousy of M. who obviously can't deal with the loss of his
  movement to SSRS's now larger and more vital movement...so he 
puts 
  SSRS down to his few remaining students. Not surprising, but not 
the 
  greatest thing one would want to hear.
 
 For the record, the sweet poison warning goes
 at least as far back as 1998 and referred 
 specifically to a hyperventilation-type breathing
 technique Shankar taught (called, I believe, 
 Sudarshan Kriya).
 
 According to someone on alt.m.t who had spent time
 in Shankar's ashram in 1978, Shankar had only broken
 with the TMO fairly recently at the time the person
 was posting in 1994.  He was said then not to be
 interested in starting a movement (and was known as
 Pundit Ravi Shankar; Sri Sri apparently came later).
 
 The point being that at the time MMY issued the
 sweet poison warning, probably around 1994, the
 TMO was still in full swing, and Shankar apparently
 did not pose any kind of major threat in terms of
 even starting a movement of his own, let alone one
 that could compete with the TMO.
 
 Perhaps MMY foresaw that he would do so, but that
 doesn't appear to have been evident at the time.
 
 In any case, contrary to Vaj's suggestion, the
 sweet poison warning about the hyperventilation
 technique is hardly a recent development.


Well, a warning about a technique isn't the same as referring to SSRS 
himself as sweet poison, which was what I was questioning.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

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On Nov 14, 2005, at 9:36 AM, sparaig wrote: Well, a warning about a technique isn't the same as referring to SSRS  himself as sweet poison, which was what I was questioning. As was I, but that might not have been obvious to a careless reader.Since none of this is dated or given a clear reference it's hard to tell what the actual comment was.M. has certainly had many comments leveled against him by other gurus as well, so this ain't real surprising behavior in the spiritual supermarket.





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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Nov 14, 2005, at 9:36 AM, sparaig wrote:
 
  Well, a warning about a technique isn't the same as referring to
  SSRS himself as sweet poison, which was what I was questioning.
 
 As was I, but that might not have been obvious to a careless reader.

For reference, in case anyone wants to read what
Vaj said more carefully:

--

On Nov 14, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Peter wrote:

Yes, yes, it's all so true. SSRS is a fraud. Thank God
we all know that now. Spending all that time with MMY
from the age of 12 onwards must have had some sort of
impact on him. IT IS SO TRUE THAT, MEDITATORS SHOULD
WATCH OUT FOR SWEET POISON.

[Vaj wrote:]
I don't think that's the point. The point is it shows the extreme 
jealousy of M. who obviously can't deal with the loss of his movement 
to SSRS's now larger and more vital movement...so he puts SSRS down 
to his few remaining students. Not surprising, but not the greatest 
thing one would want to hear.

Kinda like McDonald's bitching about Burger King.

-

 Since none of this is dated or given a clear reference it's hard 
 to tell what the actual comment was.

The actual comment, referring to the hyperventilation
technique, was sweet poison, and we know it was made
prior to 1998, i.e., well before the TMO could be said
to have been lost to Shankar's now larger and more
vital movement or that it was a putdown of Shankar by
MMY to MMY's few remaining students.

As noted, Shankar had broken with the TMO sometime not
long prior to 1994, so the sweet poison warning
would have had to have been issued at some point in
between then and 1998.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

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On Nov 14, 2005, at 10:13 AM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 14, 2005, at 9:36 AM, sparaig wrote:  Well, a warning about a technique isn't the same as referring to SSRS himself as sweet poison, which was what I was questioning.  As was I, but that might not have been obvious to a careless reader.  For reference, in case anyone wants to read what Vaj said more carefully: snipActually here's what I said:"I assumed he was talking about SSRS. Perhaps Jason can clarify whothis comment was about, Chopra or SSRS?"Please try to read more carefully before commenting (or trying to cause arguments/trouble) Judy.Prems,Vaj





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 snip
  
  As noted, Shankar had broken with the TMO sometime not
  long prior to 1994, so the sweet poison warning
  would have had to have been issued at some point in
  between then and 1998.
 
 
 
 1993 at the DC course.
 
 L B S


Born in 1956 in Papanasam, India, His Holiness Sri Sri Ravi Shankar
studied with many renowned spiritual masters and became a scholar of
Vedic Literature. By the age of seventeen, he obtained an Advanced
Degree in Modern Physics.

In 1982, His Holiness Sri Sri Ravi Shankar founded the Art of Living
Foundation

http://www.artofliving.org/founder.html


In 1982, he started the Art of Living Foundation, a United Nations NGO
and introduced to the world 'Sudarshan Kriya technique'—a unique
breathing process, which removes stress and negative toxins from the
body by rejuvenating each and every cell. The Foundation aims at
fostering health at every conceivable human level-mental, physical,
emotional as well as spiritual.

http://www.webindia123.com/personal/religious/sriravi.htm



I took his basic course with him in 1994 or 95. By then, it was quite
a mature movement -- in that some friends had been to india with him
4-5 years or more previously, lots of people on courses, including
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Nov 14, 2005, at 10:13 AM, authfriend wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Nov 14, 2005, at 9:36 AM, sparaig wrote:
  Well, a warning about a technique isn't the same as referring to
  SSRS himself as sweet poison, which was what I was questioning.
 
  As was I, but that might not have been obvious to a careless 
reader.
 
 
  For reference, in case anyone wants to read what
  Vaj said more carefully:
  snip
 
 Actually here's what I said:

Actually I quoted exactly what you said, just
apparently from a different post than you were
thinking of, although you gave no indication of
which one you were referring to.

 I assumed he was talking about SSRS. Perhaps Jason can clarify who
 this comment was about, Chopra or SSRS?
 
 Please try to read more carefully before commenting (or trying to  
 cause arguments/trouble) Judy.

What makes you think I was trying to cause arguments
or trouble, Vaj?  Do the facts represent trouble as
far as you're concerned?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Even if you may consider me as somehow arrogant, but I allow 
myself to tell 
 you that I would like to open your eyes a little bit now. First of 
all I 
 have already been an independent mind before, while and after 
having started 
 with TM. My master is my master but he is not my mental guardian 
or nurse. I 
 am a free man and not a mental slave. This as first preliminary 
vedic ideal 
 to be mentioned and herewith postulated.
 
 Instead of asking, where Maharishi has been stating this or that 
the 
 question would be much more intelligently raised by asking, how 
Maharishi 
 would probably react in case you challenged his intellect by some 
tricky 
 problematics.
 
 You may remember the commentary on the Bhagavadgita, where 
Maharishi 
 described the necessity to challenge one's master in order to make 
him set 
 free more knowledge. (By the way this challenge according to my 
opinion is 
 not being taking place sufficiently by his disciples).
 
 Now after this introductory citation I come back to the main 
general point 
 by whose solution your fundamental questioning of authority makes 
most of 
 the consecutive doubtfully interposed questions at least formally 
obsolete.
 
 I myself took the opportunity to challenge Maharishi several times 
in my 
 life in direct contact, in order to get the validation of that 
answer, which 
 I have already been giving to myself through mere setting free of 
inherent 
 CI (= Creative Intelligence). This is the self-evident purpose and 
result of 
 this spiritual practice (self-unfolding in double sense of the 
word).
 
 In one case I brought my challenge to the peak point, because I 
dared to 
 doubt about an old-established model even, which Maharishi had 
launched as 
 one of his most fundamental ones. The reaction of the master gave 
me the 
 proof that it was worth to herald him at such high esteem, because 
his 
 answer was clear, modest and onepointed; I told him that the 
bubble-diagram 
 must be wrong, because transcending according to the law of 
irreversability 
 of processes in nature dictates the mind to walk in one direction 
only, and 
 that is from Atman (point value of inifinity = smaller than the 
smallest) to 
 Brahman (expanded value of infinity = bigger than the biggest). In 
fact 
 smaller than the smallest is essentially the same as bigger than 
the 
 biggest. This is the only reason, why the mind is enabled to 
transcend, that 
 is to say just by rescuing itself in the most expanded value in 
order to be 
 able to come back to the starting point of all manífestation. So 
I said to 
 Maharishi, Transcending is a process of constant engrossment of 
the mantra 
 until it reaches its most expanded value and such the mind alone 
can find 
 back to its source. Without hesitation Maharishi agreed. It was 
in late 
 summer 1979 at the Golden Hall at Seelisberg-Switzerland. He 
literrally said 
 to me in presence of the audience: You are absolutely right in 
what you 
 say. We just held this model as a working model for practical 
reasons only.
 
 So thinking by yourself is not only allowed but vital necessary, 
as already 
 the great philosopher Immanuel Kant found out. His maxims of human 
thinking 
 (= emancipation) were:
 
 1.  Think !
 2.  Think by yourself !
 3.  Think consecutively !
 4.  Think up to the end !
 
 Very often I have to doubt, whether meditators - in their tendency 
to 
 regressive development - have ever come beyond stage 2. Whereas 
the 
 majority of the population at average moves at least somwhere in 
between 
 stage 2 and 3. A genuine spiritual seeker is expetced to range 
somewhere 
 between thinking level 3 and 4.
 
 Maharishi has never taught to surrender in a non-critical manner. 
This are 
 old-fashioned concepts out of the moth's chest of topsy-turby 
theories on 
 Yoga, where constantly cause and effect got fatalistically turned 
upside 
 down (best example: concentration is the input of meditation 
even though 
 it is the output of the interaction of the three gunas in the mind 
(= 
 samyama, which leads to the state of ekagrata parinama or 
constant flow of 
 the mind in one thought (= what is meant by the real meaning of 
the word 
 concentration). And this again is identical with the state of at 
least 
 savikalpa-samadhi). Samadhi is by the way also a constant process 
and not a 
 static state, the same way as diving is always going along with 
some effort 
 to be able to stay underneath the surface and not a static notion, 
staying 
 at one spot without further invested dynamics.
 

Thank you for your comments, Hagen. What you have shared often seems 
to be missing in the various discussions here regarding Maharishi; 
that we should always 'seek' intelligently and vigorously, asking 
and challenging along the way. I agree with your assessment that 
this doesn't occur enough with Maharishi, and yet it is *absolutely 
vital* if the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

[Jason Spock]

 Yes, he was talking about SSRS. Re-Certified TM-governor Frank Lotz mentioned it. Here below


From: "frank lotz" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:37:46 +0100 (CET) The Bigger Picture - Sri Sri. RaviShankar 
  Maharishis commentary on "ravi", the so called shankar": "Sugar caned poison".

 He is from my point of view a bad imitator of our Divine Master His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, despite of all his (ravis") so called success, only superficial, not much lasting influence!
 Lets take recourse to Maharishis Vedic Tradition, whether you call me fanatic or not, that’s the point!
 Râm 
 Frank Lotz
From: "Vaj" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:02:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...) 
 I assumed he was talking about SSRS. Perhaps Jason can clarify whothis comment was about, Chopra or SSRS?
 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 13, 2005, at 11:49 PM, sparaig wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On Nov 13, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Jason Spock wrote:
 
  Why does the TM-org rabidly criticise Deepak Chopra and Sri
  Sri. Ravishankar.??  TM-governors claim MMY called him Sugar-
  Caned
  poison.??
 
  Duh. One word: competition. Falling mantra sales doesn't make M.
  happy. Isn't that obvious?
 
  Of course, it's also easy to rationalize it as some sort of 
cosmic
  scenario.
 
 
  I have NEVER heard anyone claim that MMY ever said anything ill 
about
  Chopra.
 
 I assumed he was talking about SSRS. Perhaps Jason can clarify who  
 this comment was about, Chopra or SSRS?


I tend to doubt that MMY would say anything good or bad about SSRS 
either. Paying attention to someone gives them strength afterall.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
Yes, he was talking about SSRS.  Re-Certified TM-governor 
Frank Lotz mentioned it. Here below
  
 From:  frank lotz [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:37:46 +0100 (CET) 
 The Bigger Picture - Sri Sri. RaviShankar 
 
   Maharishis commentary on ravi, the so called 
shankar:  Sugar caned poison.
  
   He is from my point of view a bad imitator of our Divine 
Master His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, despite of all his 
(ravis) so called success, only superficial, not much lasting 
influence!
 
   Lets take recourse to Maharishis Vedic Tradition, whether you 
call me fanatic or not, that's the point!
 
   Râm 
   Frank Lotz


Perhaps he DID say that about SSRS. It seems less-than worthwhile to 
bother responding to questions about former students, but o well.

 
 
 
 From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:02:50 -0500 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the 
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  I assumed he was talking about SSRS. Perhaps Jason can clarify 
who this comment was about, Chopra or SSRS?
 
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 14, 2005, at 9:36 AM, sparaig wrote:
 
 
  Well, a warning about a technique isn't the same as referring to 
SSRS
  himself as sweet poison, which was what I was questioning.
 
 As was I, but that might not have been obvious to a careless reader.
 
 Since none of this is dated or given a clear reference it's hard 
to  
 tell what the actual comment was.
 
 M. has certainly had many comments leveled against him by other 
gurus  
 as well, so this ain't real surprising behavior in the spiritual  
 supermarket.


Sure. I was just wondering at the claim since MMY has carefully 
refrained, as far as I know, from criticizing Chopra. If he won't 
criticize Chopra who was far closer to him emotionally than SSRS ever 
was, as far as I know, it seemed very strange that he would criticize 
SSRS.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

[Rick Archer]

on 11/14/05 2:34 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Sure. I was just wondering at the claim since MMY has carefully
 refrained, as far as I know, from criticizing Chopra. If he won't
 criticize Chopra who was far closer to him emotionally than SSRS ever
 was, as far as I know,

How could you have any idea which of them was closer to him emotionally?




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)

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--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Sure. I was just wondering at the claim since MMY
 has carefully 
 refrained, as far as I know, from criticizing
 Chopra. If he won't 
 criticize Chopra who was far closer to him
 emotionally than SSRS ever 
 was, as far as I know, it seemed very strange that
 he would criticize 
 SSRS.

I would see MMY and SSRS as having a much closer
connection than MMY and Chopra. SSRS sees MMY as his
guru. MMY saw SSRS when he was 12 when he visited a
Brahmin school in India. MMY asked SSRS parents to
have him stay with him. They agreed and SSRS was with
MMY running the TMO in India for close to 20 years.
SSRS has a room for MMY in his ashram in south India
always ready for him.


 
 
 
 
 
 
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