Address change
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all ... please note that I am changing my address tomorrow. The new address will be: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:.; Meredith Sessoms ;.:. .:...:.:; Tooksend Art ;:.:...:. Moulton . Alabama . USA .:..:.;.:..:.
Re: Mane trimming?
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have never seen a web page that described the job trimming the Fjord mane and I've been a coffeetime surfer for 4 or 5 years now. There is a ton of info on the subject in the FjordHorse-L archives for reference, many descriptions of technique, discussions about the best tools to use and troubleshooting. You need to get a feel for the asthetics of a well trimmed mane before you pick up the scissors by studying photos of well groomed Fjordinger. When finished it should accentuate the natural curve af the beautifully arched neck. The way I do it is to trim and neaten the bridlepath. (then I go to the withers, since I keep a swatch on the withers for a bareback riding handhold, I figure out where I would come to at the top of the swatch had I trimmed the mane all the way down and then I cut it for reference - but that is a little advanced; see Briggen http://www.fjordstudbook.com/h-brigge.htm for a veiw of the swatch) Then I start neatly whacking the mane off at the highest spot which is not right in the middle but a few inches above the middle and work up to meet the bridle path on a gentle cresent. I go all the way across from one side to the other from the get-go, even on Dorina's thick mane, so that if my pony gets fidgety or I find I'm just not in the mood after all, I can make a short job of it. (some folks trim the white on one side, then the black, then the white on the other side) Then I trim up from the withers, making an ever-so-slightly less-rounded cresent from the withers to where I started above the middle. I have to look at my pony from the front, making her lower her head, so I can see if I made a bad slope or any grotesque dips from that angle. If there is any wind at all, watch out and don't let the little short trimmings blow into your eyes. When that is done the mane could be left as finished. If my ponys mane is floppy before I start, I make the highest point rather short - maybe only three to four inches. If the whole mane is only slightly floppy before I started or is standing upright, I keep it quite long - around five to six inches. If it's one of those days I would be happy with a poodle instead of a Labrador, I go back and do the Dutch cut. I trim the white on both sides 1/2 inch to an inch shorter than the black on one side then the other. It helps to notch a stick so you can make a premeasured cut every 10 inches or so. And that is how I trim the mane. Here are some photos that show the Fjord mane at its best: On this Beaver Dam page, look for the pic of a girl holding Tessa http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf/ourown.htm The second pic of Erlend http://www.equineadvertising.com/stallions/Erlend.htm These photos from Norway show the manes cut without doing the Dutch cut http://www.bluebirdlane.com/colour.html >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Tooksend Art >>><<< Moulton Alabama USA
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #201
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You'll find Sue's lovely, new Paint filly, Completely Aflame at: http://www.ltddstables.com/sale.htm .>>>.<<<. Meredith Sessoms .>>>.<<<. Tooksend Art .>>>.<<<. Moulton . Alabama . USA
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #198
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Meredith, just one thing for beginners about tying a horse to a tree. I had >an anglo/thoroughbred who wore a very distinctive scar behind his ears where >the halter rope had cut through his flesh as he went wild fighting the tree. Aagot surprised me the other day by slipping out of her nylon rope halter, the kind that is made from one piece. She has never fought her halter before. I was giving her a bath so I had tied it kinda loose so I could scrub around her ears and she was wet, soapy and slippery. She had never fought her halter before - she just backed up, stretched out and braced against it like a little donkey and out she popped! Thank heavens we I had found a large section of scrap carpet to have her stand on to prevent mud and splashed mud so we were under the tracter shed. The shed is within the fence line. I had considered bathing her on he carport because the garage roof is held up by stout metal poles and it is on concrete. But had she got loose there she could have run out into the road. Thank goodness I changed my mind. I try to remember the rules - when you are tying a horse up with an unbreakable nylon or rope halter or to an unbreakable post or tree, use a knot you can untie quickly. My husband just taught me to tie with a half hitch, I find it to be handy knot with those thick colored nylon leads, I double it and leave the looped end behind instead of pulling it all the way through. It tightens instantly when the horse pulls on it and can be untied with one tug. I can't believe it - I'm sitting here at my 'puter, drinking my coffee watching my horse scratching her back on the peach tree. Problem is, she's fenced away from the peach tree! Let me go check this out! She had been eating the tall grass under the tree and slipped under the electric tape fence. She's full of surprises this week, she hasn't slipped under an electric fence in two years! The electric fence is only used to define boundaries within a wire mesh fence and hasn't been turned on for months. Looks like it's time to turn it on until all the fruit has fallen and gone away. She hasn't shown any interest in peaches but I hear they are poisonous to horses. It took a minute for me to convince her to walk under the strand as I held it high over our heads with much kissing and clucking and "It's alright Sweety"'s, although she had to have gone under it with it touching her back! Funny girl! .>>>.<<<. Meredith Sessoms .>>>.<<<. Tooksend Art .>>>.<<<. Moulton . Alabama . USA
Re: the John Lyons quote, fuller
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I think the Lyons quote didn't go far enough. The full quote included >the attack like you were trying to kill your horse for a few seconds -- and >this is important -- WITHOUT HITTING THEM IN THE HEAD EVER. > Although I am not a guru follower, I prefer the Linda Tellington-Jones >ground methods for teaching leading, etc., because it is almost instant and >nontraumatic. It did teach my over-friendly fjords to stay off of me and not >to be laphorses. I teach my horses not to nip by keeping my attention on >them and my parts out of way of their teeth. After awhile they lose >interest. Neither has ever offered to kick. Most young horses will try to >nip. I agree, you'll only get a head-shy horse should you connect with a swat to the face; although the first reaction upon being bitten hard is to smack him in the face, they are so quick you only miss which just adds to the game in their minds. So smacking at them simply doesn't work. I also said that the good trainer simply nips such problems in the bud, which means (as you described) that you can stop unwanted behavior through proper handling, body language and a well timed hiss or scold. Ideally, you never let a foal learn that they can bite a human. I wish I was was a good trainer, Aagot still surprises me with an occasional nip ... and I swear she smirks afterwards! The bull finally ambled off and I got to go down to the barn to pester my pony! .>>>.<<<. Meredith Sessoms .>>>.<<<. Tooksend Art .>>>.<<<. Moulton . Alabama . USA
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #198
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I am refining my 3 year old fillies ground training because without knowing >any better I let her walk a bit more forward than she should with her >shoulder next to my hip instead of her head next to my hip where I want her >to be. She also walks a bit faster than I do so I'm training her to walk >with her head beside me and to back up a step when I say 'Whoa' and we come >to a stop, and just to respect me and pay more attention to me all the way >around. We are taking long walkabouts - 30-45 minutes - over the pasture >every day to instill these things I want to become habit with her. I talked with a horseperson, who has a lot more experience than I do, about the discussion on the list and they told me that sometimes you can handle a horse too much. I'll probubly get this all wrong by the time I get it on paper, but here is what I got from the conversation and it makes perfect sense to me. That most horsepeople never set out to halter train a colt, it just gets done as the necessity arises. When you need to take a colt from point A to point B, you just do it - no fuss, no worry about what position you are walking in. And if he acts up you get after him and he doesn't do it again. You nip any problems in the bud, so to speak. So what I do with my Aagot, who loves to go out with me and who is a joy to goof off with, may not be the best thing for a feisty colt who is easily excited and who will find trouble with inexperienced handlers. And it might not be the best thing for silly Aagot either! A colt may be handled too much which can cause problems! Something to ponder. The red, horned, Beefmaster bull in the pasture next door has left his cows to hang around our fenceline for two days now ... and he just stands there ... watching me ... whenever I bring Aagot to or from her pasture. It's quite unsettling, leading Aagot to the little paddock next to the barn and closing the gate behind us with this megamonster staring at us! He's awfully big when he's no more than 10 feet away. Maybe I don't need to go down to the barn to pester Aagot right now anyways; maybe I have handled her enough this week! .>>>.<<<. Meredith Sessoms .>>>.<<<. Tooksend Art .>>>.<<<. Moulton . Alabama . USA
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #198
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Sue Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hubby was out working with Storm tonight and had a chain under his chin (He >refuses to budge or else wants to throw his head and go where he wants) >without it. They didn't do too badly except Storm would attempt to bow his >neck and take off if he could. He also tends to crowd. When standing he >takes the leadline or chain ...whatever he can get hold of...into his mouth. >If you take off the leadline and attempt to lead him with just the halter >he will try to bite...(while refusing to move. ) I was told by a trainer that, and I believe John Lyons also goes by this rule, that if they do something hurtful and on purpose to you, you have three seconds to make them think their world has just ended without really hurting them. Biting definately comes under that rule. It's no more/no less than their own mother would do. It won't do just to swat at them or smack them, mine thinks that is just a game. With a serious biter, I'd carry a bat with a popper on it every time I handled him until he found out I was not going to stand such behavor. Look in the archives about biting, there has been a lot written on the subject, and some of the posts might help you with your bad boy. I am refining my 3 year old fillies ground training because without knowing any better I let her walk a bit more forward than she should with her shoulder next to my hip instead of her head next to my hip where I want her to be. She also walks a bit faster than I do so I'm training her to walk with her head beside me and to back up a step when I say 'Whoa' and we come to a stop, and just to respect me and pay more attention to me all the way around. We are taking long walkabouts - 30-45 minutes - over the pasture every day to instill these things I want to become habit with her. Something like this - but maybe 10-20 minutes, unlil he learns some respect for you - including lots of stopping and starting, tying him up to a tree and making him wait on you for a short spell before you start walking again, turning circles, and leading from both sides might help get the fellow in line. Something that helped me when I was training Aagot to lead properly when she was a wee yearling was to carry a dressage whip in the hand away from the filly, when ever I started off and felt her hesatate for even a millisecond I cave her a tap on the rump which packed just enough suprise to keep her with me instead of her playing 'silly filly'. This allowed me to lay off hauling around on her lead which is something you want to avoid as much as possible, because you want them to move out like somebody, not to lolly-gag around beside you. Last night ... it was so-o-o cute ... Steve and I went on our walk with me leading Aagot, two wag-tailed Labradors leading the way and two of our cats, Khyber and Splash, who came along for the entire trip. It was so funny watching those cats take turns bounding through the grass behind us, panting and crying 'little lost kitty'! .>>>.<<<. Meredith Sessoms .>>>.<<<. Tooksend Art .>>>.<<<. Moulton . Alabama . USA
Re: Hans Out's Website
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >http://home.online.no/~hebden/carriagehistor/History1.htm If you click on the page "Voss", what kind of saddle is that? .>>>.<<<. Meredith Sessoms .>>>.<<<. Tooksend Art .>>>.<<<. Moulton . Alabama . USA
Re: Back from WY
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wrote ... >We went to King's Saddlery and Museum in Buffalo WY. Oops, King's Saddlery is in Sheridan WY, not Buffalo! And I forgot to mention the Cody Museum ... a wonderful place and an absolute must-see for anyone travelling through the East entrance of the Yellowstone. Meredith Sessoms Tooksend Art Moulton . Alabama . USA
Back from WY
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have finally, almost, recouped from our great Western adventure. Steve and I, our three Labradors, my best friend, Patty, her husband, David, and two children, Mark and Samantha, and their Golden, Woody, drove in two cars to Yellowstone and back. Unfortunately, since it was a group thing, I didn't get the chance to do any Fjord visiting or shopping. Our camp in the Bighorns got drenched. Thunderstorms booming in Western mountains is a thing I'll remember for a long time, but it was fun anyways. The reservations we had made and payed for 6 months in advance at Goff Creek got completely bungled and upset our plans. The final insult was when they told us our dogs weren't allowed! Absaroka Lodge helped us find lodging, dogs and all, despite the fact that they were full. And the final upset, on the way home the radiator blew in Patty and David's van! They made it to Sheridan with the help of a can of 'leak stop' where they bought a new van on the spot! Despite all, it was a remarkably fun trip. We went to King's Saddlery and Museum in Buffalo WY. Oh my, it was wonderful. I have become very interested in the history of the Western saddle and there were more old Western saddles here than I could have imagined. I bought Dorina a Sliester hackamore, but I don't think it will fit her mug. It looks darling on Aagot but she isn't even snaffle trained yet! We ended up at Shoshone Lodge in nice cabins in Wapiti Valley between Cody WY and Yellowstone and rode horses there. Keith, the owner and his mother are great folks. There, we went on a wonderful, scenic, two-hour guided trail ride. Steve, a large fellow, got to ride a short but stocky, black gelding named Pryor. Come to find out he is a Pryor Mountain Mustang captured on the range! Pryor took good care of my husband. I rode a pretty bay, who I enjoyed riding but whom I had soon renamed Lurch for the action he put me through on the uphill. I highly reccommend Shoshone Lodge to anyone headed that way. (GC and PT lodges - yuk) We also went to the Cody Stampede Parade July the 4th. It was a wonderful parade, chock full of horses. Heart Mountain Fjords brought a few horses and A2Z brought a whole convention of Fjordies for all to see. Both farms had a baby Fjordling tagging along beside their moms. So the breed was presented in fine style by both these farms. We saw pronghorns galore; moose; bison; a black bear; 5 elk bulls at once; muleys; and to top it off, two, young grizzly bears when we left our lodge to head home. Meredith Sessoms Tooksend Art Moulton Alabama USA
Re: friendly one
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Just an update on the friendly one, aka Gunnar, aka friendlier one, aka >unfriendly one. Well you all can go on about your rides and ribbons but I >got the big reward today. That's wonderful Jean ... I am so glad you found a fun, true, Fjord character under that crusty, old soul! Meredith Sessoms ~ Tooksend Art ~ Moulton . Alabama . USA
Sweet itch
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I found this article on sweet itch at the EquiSearch site: http://equisearch.com/newsroom/articles/sweet-itch06-00.html Meredith Sessoms Tooksend Art Moulton Alabama USA
TTFN
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi everybody, we are on our way to Yellowstone today. I'm unsubscribing at noon and our laptop went to sleep and won't wake back up ... so I will be Listless for two weeks. All the folks that have sent me stuff about mares for sale ... if I didn't get back to you, thanks for the help, I'll try to get back with you when I get home. ttfn >>><<<Meredith Sessoms >>><<<Tooksend Art >>><<<Moulton . Alabama . USA
Re: Reduced Prices Mink Hollow Fjords
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Laura ... We are going off on vacation now. I will do my best to visit you and a few others in New England as soon as I can after we get back home. Take care ... Meredith -Original Message- From: Laura Corcoran-Wich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Fjord Horse List To Post (E-mail) Date: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:14 PM Subject: Reduced Prices Mink Hollow Fjords >This message is from: "Laura Corcoran-Wich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >NEW REDUCED PRICES! Please pass the word along. We have got to sell them >by end of summer. WWW.norwegianfjordhorses.com Please Help us out, Any >Fjord breeders we will consider further discounts if multiple purchases. >Thankyou !! Laura and Craig > >SF Abigail was 15k now 9,5k (16,5k if sold as pair with Evita) Has Registry >of Excellence > >Evita 14k by the wonderful Stallion Oswin, now 9K A premium (16,5K for >Pair) > >MVF Neschild was 14k 2nd Premium Norway Now 6,9K Sired by first Premium >Rossar > >MH Verde (Colt out of Neschild by Hostar) was 3k now 1,8K > >Hostar Prestatie.Hengst Stallion was25K then 19,5K now 18K or Best Offer >(Sired by Brusvein Champion of Norway and the Elite Viola) > >MH Tatiana was 6K now 4,2K 2 year old by Hostar out of Christiana Daughter >of the First Premium Grabb. (Has the best trot we have ever ever seen on >any Fjord Horse!) > >MH Tristan was 5k now 3,5K 2 year old by Hostar out of SF Abigail > >MH Sollvard was 7,5K now 4.9K 3 yr gelding drives, Hostar out of MVF Stina >2nd prem mare > >Tasja was 5,5K now 4K 2 year old Import, looks like SF Abigail, Stallion's >Arin and Zidar > >Tamara was 6K now 4,5K Great Buy!!! Less than we payed Sired by Elite >Stallion Tunar out of Keur Mare Sired by Elite Stallion Myrstein. > > >Sincerely, >Laura and Craig Wich Mink Hollow >802 333 9961 > >
Unusual Stubben saddle
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There is a lovely, very pale Stubben on E-Bay right now. I have never seen anything like it. Looks like it's for the circus or a special event. Finding a bridle to match it might be impossible! Meredith Sessoms Tooksend Art & Fjordhorses Moulton . Alabama . USA
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #164
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Sue Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Well I have done it I believe...totally spoiled my colt. Storm has now been >gelded for 3 weeks and tonight we undertook to lead him to see if he was any >quieter. He was so bullheaded at the vet clinic where he was gelded that >they compared him to a Brahma bull! My husband could lead him tonight with >no trouble...for once he did not try to bite...but with me...oh dear...he >and I have had one too many tongue rubbing and nose rubbing sessions. He >wants to crowd into me I am no expert ... so if anyone with real experience has any problems with this post or has anything to add, please, please jump in! This fellow is so out-of-control that I would reccommend putting a halter on him and carrying a crop or a bat every time someone handles him, and smacking him with it - three times, real good on the chest - every time he invades your space, bites, or does some other rude/dangerous infraction. Hold up on the petting stuff, make him be a respectful horse first, and make him earn the right to be a pet again. Make him do something positive - like stand stock still for a spell, or hold up each foot for cleaning without jerking or leaning, or trot in-hand and stop along side of you - before he gets any pets at all. With dogs it's called denial. A puppy might be asked to lay down perfectly still and quiet at its persons feet for 30 seconds before it is given dinner or pets and hugs. But it is a lesson they must learn. It may be a while before your pony figures out you aren't kidding and he learns to work to earn his perks. That is my take on the subject of rude youngsters. You must be dillegent; he must learn to respect you. There is a lot of good advise in the Fjordhorse-L archives on young horses being bullys, mouthy youngsters, and other stuff because this is a very smart breed that will quickly take control if their people don't! >> >< << Meredith Sessoms >> >< << Tooksend Art >> >< << Moulton AL USA
Moving ... bye
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bye for now ... I'll be gone for a while because we are moving to 16 in Alabam'. I hope to be back in a week or two with a new e-mail address. Casey, I'll still have e-mail, so I'll let you know whenever I learn my new address, I don't have it with me at the moment. ttfn folks >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Clipping Muzzle Hairs
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >All they know are quarter horses, paints, and a little about arabs, etc. >All these breeds are supposed to have clipped muzzles, white socks, >fetlocks, eye hairs, and ears to be able to compete. If we showed up >with a horse with long face hairs, the judges would not give us a second >look in a halter, showmanship, or pleasure/horsemanship class. Would those judges penilize a Welsh Cob, Clydesdale or Friesian for hairiness? ;-> >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< (soon to be Moulton. Alabama. USA)
Re: Clipping Muzzle Hairs
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Lynn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >How to the Fjords in the warmer climes cope? Do they not grow as thick >winter coats as the ones that actually experience winter, or do they still >go the whole hog in defiance of the temperature? Here near Chattanooga, Tennessee, my horses get pretty darn thick coated. Aagot was downright shaggy as a yearling, like a Shetland Pony, hence her nickname will always be 'Shaggy'. Aagot's gets long enough to blow in the wind and Dorina's is like a plush rug with a bit of a wave over the rump! But the adult horses coats aren't that much longer than some other horses I see about the countryside, but I suspect they are a lot thicker. Their adult coats are no where as long as the Fjords winter coats I've seen in some photos from Northern climes. All the same, I suspect they over prepare for the South's winter weather. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Cant clip , judges rule ! ; (
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >One of my ponies stepped on her own fetlock yesterday, and it >concerned me. It must have hurted and damaged her hair. I should have said ... One of my ponies stepped on her own fetlock hairs ... >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Cant clip , judges rule ! ; (
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Since I don't show, yet, I prefer to shave/trim the beards in the fall, let them grow out with the coat, then shave them off again in the spring. I leave the muzzle and eye whiskers too. Where can one find official rules for grooming such in-between, semi-shaggy breeds as Welsh Cobs, Highland Ponies, Haflingers and Fjords. Little Aagot's legs are shaggy all the way up to the knees/hocks. I trim the hair from the knees/hocks down almost to the top of the pasterns. I assume that's proper. Her feet are so shaggy the hair hangs down on her hooves ... do you shave their pasterns and coronet bands, leaving the fetlock hairs long? or do you take a pair of scissors and neaten the coronet much like you would the ears? Or are they left natural? If the fetlock hair hangs all the way to the ground, do you bang it straight across off the ground like their tails ... or do you round it off for a more natural look? One of my ponies stepped on her own fetlock yesterday, and it concerned me. It must have hurted and damaged her hair. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: New Fjord site - shameful!
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "David Stewart, Registrar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >As Registrar of the FHRS, I think that the derogatory comments made about >our beloved Fjord horses in Scotland proves, without doubt, that this >particular horse society doesn't care about the breed in the UK, or >otherwise they would not have written these blatant untruths. Honestly, I found the site and posted the address to the list before I even looked it over! I still haven't read the text. But it is a rotten site because there are lots of clickables and they all go to one page! So disappointing. I will read it and if I find them to talk bad about the Scottish Fjords I will post them a nasty! ;-) >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
New Fjord links
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Fjord Horse Society Of Great Britain http://www.fjord-horse.co.uk/ Anjer Farm http://capital.net/~anjer/ Linnea's pages http://home.bip.net/ornstein/elindex.htm >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: mares udders
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was once told to flake off the gunky stuff with your fingers. Slather the udder with cooking oil (forgot what type, don't see that it would matter). Let it set and soak in for a half hour or so. Flake off the rest of the gunky stuff with fingers. Then gently clense the udder with warm, mild, soapy water and a soft rag or very soft brush. Rinse very, very well. That should take care of any discomfort and/or clean the mare up for a little suckling to be. If there are raw spots in the folds of the udder, I wouldn't treat it with anything harsh, perhaps your vet can recommend an ointment you can pick up at the drug store that wouldn't be irritating down there. I believe the guck they collect is simply caused by sweat and dust they kick up onto themselves. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Apology from Misty Meadows
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: Misty Meadows B & B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I had sent our sales list off to the entire newsgroup Sorry >everyone for the advertising- just delete it. Please don't apologise for advertising. If you are contributing member of the list you should be able to send a list of horses for sale, on purpose, without guilt. I enjoy reading about horses listed for sale, like someone else said before when this subject came up ... it's like window shopping, but better!!!!! So please don't feel bad. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Response to "Gelding Only Wanted-VA"
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Laurie Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> This message is from: "Sarah Vogeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Perhaps my hesitation to put a wanted ad up on the Fjord List was >>for good cause after all! I would think that all the breeders and sellers >>out there would appreciate my announcing a potential buyer to this list! >>It should matter NOT about why my friend wants a gelding only. It's a >>personal choice! > >Don't regret posting that request for your friend, Sarah. You're right, it >is a personal choice. While I'd never turn down a good mare, I also tend to >prefer geldings. Sarah ... I agree with Laurie ... please don't let it hurt your feelings. You have to expect some rambling of thought here. Another reson for prefering one sex over the other is the mix in your pasture. If you already have a mean boss mare or an older mare who can no longer defend herself, you might not want to bring in a new mare. It's my understanding that mares are often meaner to other mares than they are to geldings. I prefer mares because I don't want to ever, ever, ever have to clean that thing! ;-):-);-):-);-):-);-):-);-):-) >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: **** New on the NFHR Web Site ****
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kathy, in case you haven't heard ... check this out! Fjord pedigrees on-line!: -Original Message- From: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Friday, April 07, 2000 10:50 AM Subject: New on the NFHR Web Site >This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I am very happy to announce that the new Pedigree Lookup feature is now up >and running on the NFHR Web Site. > >Thanks go to our Education Committee member Lori Albrough of Capable >Computing for the design of this new system. She put in an awful lot of >hours on this as you will see when you try it out. > >Please take a moment of your time to go and check it out. I think you will >all be interested in some of the things you will be able to look up with it. > >Here is the URL to it, or you can get it right from the main www.nfhr.com page: > >http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ > >Just type in a horses name or part of it and hit begin search. You can put >in lots of other requests to it also. Like if you want to know which >stallions are in your state or province then put in your state/prov & pick >stallion under the gender. If you want a certain color stallion you can >put in the color you want also. > >If you want to see the horse after you get the list of them just click on >the horses name. It will bring up another screen with all of the horses >info on it including a 5 generation pedigree. You can then click on any of >the horses in the pedigree & get their info & a 5 generation pedigree on them. > >There is also a picture upload feature. If the owner of the horse would >like to upload a picture of his/her horse they can do that. You can upload >up to 3 pictures. Just click on the upload picture link. You will need a >password to do it though. If you want a password you can request one from >me from the upload screen. > >So try it out and let me & Lori know what you think of it please. > >Mail can be sent to Lori's address from the "Capable Computing link also >on the opening Ponyweb screen. > >Enjoy! > > >
Re: **** New on the NFHR Web Site ****
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Somebody pinch me, am I dreaming? This is so much fun I feel guilty! Oh my butt hurts, I sat here for how many hours yesterday? Did my husband come home last night? Thanks Mike! >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #102
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Someone had mentioned some pretty horse tiles last week.I thought it was >on www.windspirits.com.I have had no luck getting to this site.Did I get it wrong? It is ... Home page http://www.windspirits.net/ Fjord mare and foal http://www.windspirits.net/fjtrfr.jpg Fjordhorse trotting http://www.windspirits.net/fjmffr.jpg >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot > >Also,what is the appropriate age to breed your mare for the first time? > >Thanks,Ellen >
Joke: Money Isn't Everything
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> A thought...Money Isn't Everything >> >> Money can buy a house >> but not a home. >> Money can buy a bed >> but not sleep. >> Money can buy a clock >> but not time. >> Money can buy a book >> but not knowledge. >> Money can buy food >> but not an appetite. >> Money can buy position >> but not respect. >> Money can buy blood >> but not life. >> Money can buy medicine >> but not health. >> Money can buy sex >> but not love. >> Money can buy insurance >> but not safety. >> You see, money is not everything. >> >> Therefore, if you have too much, please, send it to me, immediately. >> I will accept checks, money orders and cash >> Have a great day!!!
Re: Frighten Fjord
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Wertin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hi meredith, I read your piece about Fjords temperment. However my Fjord >Aaron is at the trainers and he trembles with fear, he is ground driving >and pulling a 4ftx4ft. harrow, and mounts and walks and stops also But >he trembles as if fearful. He's willing just seems scared. It hurts my >heart to see him tremble. He's been timid since birth and was attached >by a stallion as a yearly that's all I know from his owner. That is so sad. I have never heard of a Fjord who trembles with fear with normal handling. Of course, when I wrote about Fjords being so confident, I was speaking about my experience with my two ladies, and generalities based on what I have read and heard. I hope your fellow's fearful behavior gets better with time and that he gains confidence in himself and in those around him. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
One stallion
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was "Re: Fjord Temperament & more questions" >This message is from: "Lynn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I was I admit a little alarmed after following the links to the historical >information about the near loss of the breed and the tracing back to one >only stallion. >now all modern Friesians can be traced back through three sire lines to one >founding sire. It is precisely this small gene pool that seems to >contribute to a lower fertility and other breeding problems that I was >hoping to move away from in a more robust "natural" breed, but find that >the Fjord too nearly met the same fate. > >Is the gene pool now considered a problem? With the Friesians a close check >is kept on the in breeding coefficient or possible combinations. I would love to have this settled once and for all ... do our Fjords literally go back to one stallion? It is my understanding that their were several pure stallions and mares found after the Rimfakse War, but that Njal 166 was considered the father of the modern Fjord breed because they used him to point out just what qualities they had lost. Is there someone on the List who can answer this, or someone who can find out?? >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Wind Spirit Tiles www pages
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wind Spirit Tiles There are some Fjord tiles at the bottom of the 'Other equines' section. Nice work: Home page http://www.windspirits.net/ Fjord mare and foal http://www.windspirits.net/fjtrfr.jpg Fjordhorse trotting http://www.windspirits.net/fjmffr.jpg >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Fjord Temperament
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Lynn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>What do you think about Norwegian Fjords? >**I had a chat to a lady at Equitana who imported a few some years ago - >and >she is most disappointed in them...I got them impression that they are very >mule like - stubborn and rude. > >I do not bring this up so you can all leap to their defence! The Norwegian >vet who was staying with me also said she found that "some" could be quite >stubborn and some were snappy. > >If I am going to take the step of importing some of these horses I do not >want to end up like the lady mentioned above. I am no expert by any means, having owned only two Fjordies, but I find the Fjordhorse to be delightfully different to handle than other horses. I jumped in and bought a mare and a filly after only two visits with Dr. Brian's Fjordhorses and I have never, for a moment, regretted it. My two come from completely different bloodlines: Dorina - Holunder, German, Dutch and Austrian lines; Aagot's grandsires are Grabb and Solar with four Norwegian grand sires and dams. They do have strong personalities. They are confident. They act like the the world is there for their amusement. They are too easy to spoil. They can be mouthy so you have to get a handle on the problem and nip it in the bud. You have to be diligent with their ground work because they will take advantage if you let them get away with pushing and hauling on you. Being a rookie at training I have had some problems with who's boss but nothing I can't deal with. They can be stubborn and rude if someone has spoiled them and they never learned basic lessons. They don't frighten like other horses, so people who rely heavily on getting a horse to behave through fear might not have an easy time training a Fjord. I have yet to learn how to send a Fjord out on a longe line! I can flick a whip, stomp and yell all day long and Aagot will walk up to see what the commotion is all about. I have given up on longing her until I learn more about handling them. It slays me to watch my dressage instructor lounging her horses of various breeds, she just clucks at them or waves the whip their way and they practically jump out of their own skins! Fjordies are very loving. I believe mine truly enjoy my company. They are really happy when I return from a trip or come outside to give them attention. Aagot thinks I am her personal amusement park. She will even walk away from her food to see what I am up to. Aagot is extremely steady and has a curious 'what's around the bend?' personality. Dorina is more high-strung but this makes her a very demonstrative pet and a fun riding horse. They are different from other horses. When I have been with other horses all day, I am so happy to come home to my Fjords with their beautiful eyes, sweet faces, and familiar ways. I wouldn't trade them for any other breed. If you have reservations, is there any way you can spend time with the breed before committing to buying some? >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: a question for the list
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Anna Rousseau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >what harm is there in >breeding a stallion to other breeds of mares? The ultimate goal in breeding >anything is to produce something better in terms of conformation, movement, >and temperment. Anna ... we are very awake ... I am with those who believe this breed to be unique in looks and behavior; and in genotype too, we've recently found out. Fjords are very different from other horses and don't always cross well. I have seen some photos of very ugly Fjord crosses and some of nice Fjord crosses. But are the best results an improvement over either breed? What could you be trying to produce with a Fjord cross? A fabulous family horse? a handsome steady pony to compete in driving, do packing or to do farm work? a best friend and trail companion? a very handsome smooth moving mount for basic dressage that you don't need a ladder to get up on? What could you cross with a Fjordhorse to beat the real thing? At this point in time, I see no good reason to cross this breed with anything else, especially since there are many reports of cross-breds being passed off as pure-breds. Since the Fjord is so special, and I've heard that crosses do not necessarily pick up the wonderful Fjord temperament, I don't think it would be favorable to the breed to allow crosses. There are already hundreds of thousands of cross-bred ponies and horses out there that desperately need good homes ... pure-breds too, for that matter. If a related breed like the Freisian, or the Highland, or Fell Pony, or the Icelandic, or a draft breed grew genetically weak through small numbers or heavy linebreeding and they asked us to infuse their breed with a dose of the Fjords genetic strength (like the Pointers did for the Dalmatians in the '80's) I certainly could not see turning them down. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Another brag alert
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >this boy is now friendly. Not cuddly friendly but >nice. He does so enjoy It has taken him fifteen months to trust again so do not >write off those fjords at the auctions and sales who have bad behavior. >Can not fault him at this point Jean ... I am so glad to hear that your work with 'The Unfriendly One', no ... Gunner, has paid off. You don't know how many times I have started to write you to beg you to sell him, because you deserve to have a fun responsive Fjord who enjoys your company when there are so many Fjordhorses out there with a fun, happy nature. But I bit my tongue and deleted all those messages figuring you probably know far more about horses and what you are doing than I ever will. I am glad I did. Here's hoping you have many more sucesses with the fellow, and that he learns to truly enjoy his fine fortune in ending up in such a good home! >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Sommer saddle
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Meredith, Is Theo Sommers a dressage rider? Some companies as you may know >design saddles for the top riders to help sell saddles Nope, my Millers magazine says, "From the famous saddlemaker Theo Sommers of Germany ..." The saddle has that nice feel of quality. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Sommer saddle
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have the chance to buy a Theo Sommer Diplomat dressage saddle for $800. This saddle has sat in a tiny English saddle shop near Chattanooga for 2 years. It is in the 1998 Millers Catalog for $1900. It is beautiful and it fits me like a glove. I haven't fitted it to Dorina or Aagot yet, but I will before I plunk the money down. My questions are ... ~ Is the Sommer a respected brand of saddle? I have never heard or read any comments on them. ~ Does anybody on the list ride with a Sommer Diplomat on a Fjording? If so, what do you think of it? >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Robert Duncan Fjord Painting
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: Misty Meadows B & B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Recently, I bought The 2000 Homeland Calendar which features prints by Robert >Duncan. Imagine the pleasant surprise I found in the picture"To Spring Pastures". >Of course it is his best painting ever. Wonderful painting of a Weegie, thanks Cathy ... http://www.digisys.net/bayside/posters/duncan/0074lg.jpg That will be my wallpaper for this week! >>>>>> >>><<< <<<<<< Someone on the list wrote to tell me she had a problem when she made the Eohippus cartoon her wallpaper ... I didn't mean to cause anybody any problems. Please read further if you had any problems, here is what I wrote her: Uh-oh! I never had that problem. I have never changed the screen saver by changing the wallpaper, I do not know if I can help you or not! So very sorry if I have caused you any problems! I'll tell you all I know how to do. - click on 'my computer' - click on 'control panel' - click on 'display' - if your's is a wallpaper problem, it says 'display properties' on the bar, click 'background' the Windows blue cloudy sky picture should be on there if that is what you are missing - it will say 'wallpaper', 'select HTML document or picture', there will be a list of wallpapers that came with your operating system, look through them and try to find the one that was on there - if the trouble is - the wallpaper image doesn't sit neatly in the center of the screen but is in an annoying tile form - click on 'display: center' and you will get one neat image centered in your screen -if it is a screen saver problem, click on 'screen saver' and try to find the one you are missing in the drop-down menu Unfortunately, if what you had on there wasn't already saved on your computer, you may have lost it. If it is saved, I think the stuff on Paintbrush automatically goes to the wallpaper menu, if you can import it to Paintbrush, or to Screen Savers ... if this would get things back to normal, write me back and I'll have my husband send you instructions cause I've never done that. I change my wallpaper everytime I find a cool photo on the web, so I never really considered ruining anything, sorry. Be sure to write me back to tell me if you could fix it or not ... ok! And that is all I know to tell you, hope it helps. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Fjords have 65 chromosomes?
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>donkey which has 62 chromosomes and a horse which has 64; giving the mule 63. Of course the mule can't reproduce because he has an odd number of chromosomes." For instance, interspecies hybrids produced by mating a horse with 64 chromosomes and a Przewalski' (wild) horse with 66 chromosomes produces a hybrid with 65 chromosomes which is normally fertile. In fact, a number of individuals studied from several domestic horse breeds showed 65 chromosomes. The breeds included the Norwegian Fjord, Caspian pony and the America Tarpan.<<< I wonder how many chromosomes the Arabian Horse has? >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: etiquette question
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I forgot to mention ... if you do change the subject line, drop the 'Re:'. Subject lines in a discussion should go like: His name is Winslow Re: His name is Winslow Re: His name is Winslow Re: His name is Winslow Cresty necks (was Re: His name is Winslow) Re: Cresty necks (was Re: His name is Winslow) Re: Cresty necks (was Re: His name is Winslow) Re: Cresty necks (was Re: His name is Winslow) etc. That's the way it should go to have neat archives. I learned we should put the 'was' in the body, Lori has it in the subject line. Do we have some knowledgable computer people amongst us to tell us which is the more acceptable? I have been on one other list long enough to learn their ways. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Fjords have 65 chromosomes?
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is very interesting stuff. I personally believe the French cave horses have to be far more closely related to our modern Fjordinger than the Przewalski horse ever was! I wonder how many chromosomes they had? Except for a few differences in color and it looks like the cave horses mane sheds each year like a Zebra's and so it stays short. They look so similar to our Fjordies. Even the little short, thick, dished faces; solid bone and build; shaggy fetlocks; and tail set and shape are identical. It makes sense to me that they would have galloped all over Europe and that their last strong hold could have been Norway. Any thoughts on this, Anneli? I know I have posted this cartoon address before, but I ran across it again and thought many of you would get as hearty a chuckle over it as I do. This cartoon makes a fabulous, fun wallpaper, just put your cursor on it, click on your right mouse button and click on 'Set as Wallpaper': http://www.equineartguild.com/abernethy/infrance.jpg >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: etiquette question
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Often a post by someone will bring up other ideas. For instance, the >thread of "his name is Walter" is now more onto health and feeding >topics, etc. When we want to write in with more thoughts on the new >topic(s), is it better to keep the same "subject" line as a heading, even >though the contents of the message are now totally different? Or is it >better to rename the subject with a title that's more appropriate to the >actual topic? I think it does matter. I was taught that it is good to rename the subject with a title that's more appropriate to the actual topic and to keep posts single subject as much as possible. I also learned to put the original subject line in the body of the message if you change the subject. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Crocodile Hunter
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 'Re: More Fjords on Tv': >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >PS I think the crocodile hunter on that network should be eaten too!! Hey now, you guys are treadin' on thin ice here! I'm the kind of person that runs to catch every snake I see, unless it has a pattern and a scary face, and when I walk out the door I am mesmirised by moths, lizards, the sky, the fluttering things in the trees, etc. I am so fascinated by the amimals that I can forgive Mr. Irwin for terrifying the poor critters 'cause I do the same thing to them as often as I can. I'm forever catching frogs and toads and bugs and lizards and 'possums, or poking sticks at puff adders just to watch them rise up and flatten out like a cobra ... all much to my poor husbands chagrin! So Crocodile Hunter is my hero ... someone that thinks like me that is older than 10! I love the Crocodile Hunter! (I also like 'Acorn the Nature Nut' ... now that is scary!) :-);-):-);-):-);-):-):-);-):-) >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Warning
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Does just viewing it on your screen trigger the invasion? Or do you >have to click on an html in the message? You have to click on an icon in the body of the e-mail message to pick up the worm/virus. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Sini's page
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think Sini Seppälä has outdone herself again ... take a look at the new fjordling portrait at the top of her page! Sometimes I begin to believe our breed has been sprinkled with fairy dust! Great photos Sini!: http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Bellcrown Carriage Raffle
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I enquired about the Bellcrown Carriage Raffle and they said the raffle has not been drawn yet for the Bellcrown. It will drawn May 15th if they have sold a minimum of 100 tickets at $50 each ... at first they said it was to be drawn when they reach 250 sold. So people still have time to buy a ticket. (Jill, have they already raffled off one of your lovely driving blankets?) Here is the link to Skyline Farm where the raffle is being held: http://www.trot-on.com/skyline.html For additional information on the carriage offered contact Driving Essentials, Inc. at 1-800-622-8543 or email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] For information on tickets call Mary Gray at 207-829-9908 or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make checks payable to: The North Yarmouth Historical Society / Carriage and Driving Center Mail checks to: Skyline Farm / Bellcrown Raffle 463 Walnut Hill Road North Yarmouth, ME 04097 >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: ARCHIVES ARE AVAILABLE!!
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > A couple weeks ago I said I was working with an archiving site to > make the entire history of the list available to you in a searchable > format. I am pleased to announce that the archives are now available > for use. Go to http://www.listquest.com. Read the HELP there to get > an idea how the search engine works. Then select "Home & Garden", > then "Pets & Animals", then "FjordHorse". At this point you will be > presented with a security dialog. The username is "fjordhorse" and > the password is "fjords_rule". Steve ... WOW ... nice job! Now maybe I can keep my e-mailbox clean and not forever tottering on the brink of using up all the c-drive and crashing my pathetic, 5-6 year old 'puter! People, we must learn how to use the subject lines for archival purposes. It is relevant when ... we search for a subject, find a post and try to follow the thread ... attempting to garner information from archived posts. I have yet to figure out how to read the posts I missed from early April '98. I tried the date (29-Mar-1998) in all three seach options knowing there were posts on that date; subject, body and name. I got no results. I need to read the 'help' page better, I guess. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Bad weather
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Is a horse smart enough to seek shelter when the weather is bad enough to >possibly cause hypothermia? These past few days have been rainy and 35 >degrees. Petra has a shelter to go into, but doesn't go into it. Does that >mean the weather isn't bad enough that she needs to seek shelter, or is she >too stupid to seek shelter on her own and I need to intervene? I would say the horse is fine if she is healthy, strong and not shivering. In Tennessee there isn't a lot of cold weather that concerns me, but whenever I am afraid they might get chilly I give them lots of extra hay to eat which keeps them warm in chilly, wet and windy weather. If it would put your mind at ease put her up in the shelter. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: White Line
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message- From: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 9:49 AM Subject: Re: White Line >This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>I personally love this analogy about the white line in the highway; >>however, what does it really mean? > >It means that if you see a 17 hand Fjord in someone's pasture you should >get back in the truck & drive away. It is way over in the ditch on the >side of the "Fjord Highway" On the other side of the highway in the other >ditch you will see the 12 hand or less one. I have a slightly different take on this Mike ... I feel it means, if you have a tall mare, 14.2 or 14.3hh, you definately don't want to breed her to a 14.3 stallion. You probably don't want to breed her to a 13.1hh stallion either. You do want to breed her to a stallion who is around 14hh, to try to avoid extremes and the possibility of getting a foal who might be untypically tall. Really big-boned Fjords, cute 13.1hh childrens mounts or driving Fjords, 15hh riding horses - are all within our breed on some extremely nice Fjordies, but some are not within standard. What you do not want to do is to double up on these non-typical traits or traits that are 'on the edge'. You want to go back to standard. If your Fjord mare has an extreme feature, come back to the middle. A Fjord stallion should not be out of standard (untypical). >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Where the daffodils and forsythia are blooming! >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Dutch Kuering/ American Fjord?
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: Debby Stai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I'm confused here and have to ask. Is everyone in agreement exactly what a >Norwegian Fjord is? LOL! No, everyone is not in agreement as to what a Fjord is! But I think we can all agree that Fjord's should be bred to the standard; to be a great character; to be a fun ride with smooth gaits; to drive with a steady, working attitude; and the larger boned ones should have the strength and nature to be capable, safe draft horses and ponies. >She's not too heavy, not too light, carries herself >upright in front, like I would want a dressage horse to do. Thats what I >intend to do with her. She can drive and I hope to do CDE's with her. >When I watch her move, I look at her like I do my daughters TB, my husbands >QH and my soon to be retired Arab. I want horses that can do dressage. Is >there anything wrong with that. A well-bred Fjord should have wonderful, smooth, supple gaits well suited to dressage. The perfect Fjord can be very heavy-boned and still be a nice dressage mount as well as a lighter-boned one. All Fjords, even the big-boned ones, should be 'riding type'. That should confuse you even more!;-)No bone-size is more correct than the other. >I don't care if she can't pull a dozen logs, thats not what I do. >And if I want to and can, which by what I've heard on this list may be >very difficult, breed her to another Fjord which will compliment what I see >in her and hopefully "fix" what isn't ideal, I don't see what the problem >is. I don't really understand the point here but there are lots of Fjords, nice high quality Fjords, that are not large-boned. If you prefer a lighter bone that should not be hard to find. I have two, a large-boned lady and a medium-boned filly, and I don't prefer one type over the other. >I'm not rich, I can't travel to Europe just >to go to an evaluation done by the Dutch, much less go to one of only a few >places here in the states. If I don't do this, am I penalized because this >will not show up on my papers. No, there will be so many Americans that won't do the evaluations that that shouldn't matter. But I am a big believer in proving pure-bred breeding stock be they dogs or horses. >If my Fjord wasn't evaluated and "pass" does that mean I >have a low quality Fjord? I don't understand the emphasis put on these >evaluations. Evaluations are a tool. Pure-bred doesn't mean AnyThing if breeders don't hold to a standard. To avoid being barn-blind it helps most of to have an unbiased, expert opinion. Also, the biggest need for shows and evaluations is to get breeders out, talking to one another, studying animals other than their own, comparing their own animals side-by-side with other animals, etc. How can you know you are breeding to standard if you don't know what that standard means. You can't understand a written standard without knowing the breed, hands on - that doesn't mean only the horses in your barn. Breeders have a responsibility to our breed of choice to try to get to know our breed and do the best we can by it. A lot of Americans think that registration papers on a horse or a dog means that the animal is automatically breeding quality. It doesn't. There are only a few purebreds that are truly breeding quality, most breeders will fudge a little, and shows/evaluations are one way to help us determine the importance of our horses strong and weak points. >I know most of you have had Fjords in >your lifes for a long time and have your ideal Fjord in mind. I'd just >like to know what that is! Visit and talk to as many breeders as you can, buy books, get the Herald and go to as many breed events as you can! The Fjord Horse is a breed with an historical lineage, and a distict look, different from all other breeds, much like the Arab. Think 'desert, hot-blood Arab'; 'northlands, cold-blood Fjordhorse'. The Fjordhorse has specific colors; a certain ear shape and set; a thick yet short, fleshy, wide, dished and refined face; specific neck and body type; a thick, protective, relitively unrefined coat texture; a certain mane and tail texture and thickness; a certain leg and hoof shape and sturdiness; and last but far from least, a certain wonderful type of personality that many of us have never seen in another breed of horse. Most of these things we can't learn by written word. I don't mean to be preachy, please don't take my post in that light. But Fjords are a very special breed and with every foal - for better or worse - it's breeders are stewarding this unique pre-Viking breed into the future. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Two little Fjord sites
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cute kid and her cute New Forest/Fjord Horse cross in Europe: http://www.angelfire.com/me/annapf/start.html Trail riding in Europe on Fjords and Shetties, only two photos: http://www.fjallbacka.com/rimfaxe/ >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Lost Phil Prichard's number
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi folks, I need to get in touch with Phil Prichard. I had his Memphis number but I've lost it. Anyways, he may have moved recently to a place south of Nashville. If anyone has it, could you please send it to me? Many thanx ... >> >< << Meredith Sessoms >> >< << Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >> >< << Dorina & NFR Aagot
Site with old brasses
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fun site with antique horse brasses, etc.: http://www.antiquehorse.com/index.html >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #54
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Also the fleas, or no-see-ums (don't know which) in >> the grass were horrible. > >they're No-see-ums. There's no fleas at this altitude. Ticks, yes; >fleas, no. In the South, we call the bug whose bite is akin to a giant mosquto, and lives in the grass, that is so tiny you can't see them ... 'chiggers'. You know it, regrettably, for the next two weeks if you waded through a field with chiggers in the tall grass! And Southern 'no-see-ums' are a kind of tiny biting gnat that can get through tent netting. I've never encountered these, I think they are on beaches at night or something. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Bear Creek Fjord Gifts
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bear Creek Fjord Gifts 1790 Meridian Road, Victor, Montana 59875 406-642-3807 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybernet1.com/bcfjordgifts/belt_buckles.htm >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Mailing list etiquette and such
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 'Re: Another Fjord Site Coming Soon' >This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > By the way, having searchable archives means everyone should > try to be a little more careful about the subject line of messages > they send. Steve ... I think the number of people who understand proper, archival subect lines are very few and far between on this list. I'm certainly no expert, but, if you don't mind, here are a few pointers that make life with a mailing list archivable and just a little nicer to read: ~ An original subject line should not be started with 'Re:'. ~ 'Re:' should be only be used as though it meant 'Reply'. ~ When you reply directly to a post you should not change the subject line in any way except to start the subject line with 'Re:'. ~ You really shouldn't reply to two posts in one if they are about two different subjects/posts. ~ You should give the readers some reference to the post you are replying to or else nobody will know what you are talking about! A few lines from the original post will usually suffice. See above ... ~ When the subject changes mid-stride you should change the subject line but refer back to the original title in some way so a person can use the search to follow a thread, I use 'was Re: Such n such' in the body. See above ... ~ Name and whereabouts should be on every post. It is totally uninteresting to read about experiences, the local flavor or the weather when the reader does't even know your what state/country you are in. A trail ride in Alaska is very different from one in Tennessee! I have a post in my draft box called 'a aa signatures', it stays on top of my draft box at all times so it is very easy to find, I keep my sigs in it and from it I 'copy and paste' my signature whenever I write to the List. A sig should be informative yet short and to the point. See below ... ~ 'Copy' is highlight, hold 'Ctrl' and then hit 'C'. 'Paste' is highlight, hold 'Ctrl' and hit 'V'. 'Cut' is highlight, hold 'Ctrl' and hit 'X'. If your's isn't the same as mine it's all under 'Edit' on the bar. Whew ... I tried to find a nice FAQ to refer to and 'copy and paste' but couldn't. I hope this helps. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Ticks ... yuk!
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >PS I'm still anxious to hear from anyone about tick control for horses. My ponies have a paddock carved out of a dry, hard-scrabble, Tennessee hillside right in the woods. So we battle ticks. I have a collection of metal dog/cat combs of different tooth sizes that I have collected over the years and I use them to groom the horses. And I go over them with my hands every time I go to pet or groom and am quite expert at removing ticks swiftly and cleanly with my fingers and crushing them between stones. The horses soft underparts attract them more than thier legs and body does and it is next to impossible to get a tool down there to remove them, it must be done with fingers, and they must be found before they get pumped up because the longer they are in the animal the harder they are to get out because the tissues and the more likely they are to pass disease, and the more disgusting they are. Unfortunately, vinegar doesn't bother horse flies or ticks.:-( I also have two male Guinea Fowl that comb the paddocks and yard for bugs of all kinds. And my dogs and cats are on that wonderful product, Frontline I think it's called, which helps immensely. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: what has happened to their manes?
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I only have two Fjords. Aagot, my red dun, has a nice, stiff mane that I can whack off in record time. Dorina, on the other hand, has that extremely thick mane and tail. And if I let it go the least little bit, the mane falls to each side and looks so funny, like a black and white bonnet from the front! It is a struggle to get it all even and neat. And my poor hand is so-o-o worn out by the time I have finished with her ... whew! >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: BREYER HORSE
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >When I heard about fjord red duns I had no interest in >them. Till I saw them. So different from the QH red dun, and so >beautiful. I agree, a lot of folks that know the red dun Fjords feel this way. I think it is, by far, the most elegant of the Fjord colors. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: BREYER HORSE
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Now I wonder what you call the smoky, >smudged, grey brown that I always was told was a grullo is called. Pamela ... I agree with you. The grullo's I have seen are very different than the Fjord's grey dun. The red dun of the Quarter Horse is different also. However, the same dun colors complete with the two-color mane of the Fjord Horse can be found in the Mustang/Sorroyo(sp.?)/Spanish Horses in both brown dun and grey dun. Maybe these colors can be found in Quarter horses who have wild Mustang in their pedigrees. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA (where the weather is still absolute perfection and I must force myself to attack Dorina's giant mane today ... spooky isn't it!) >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Finally, more pages!
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Finally, we succeeded in getting up the new pages on our web site. Still >have many more pictures to ad - what fun. Enjoy! > >Peg Knutsen, Knutsen Fjord Farm >www.eburg.com/~kffjord20 The full, clickable address is: http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/ Wonderful pictures Peg ... if you're not careful you will have the coolest Fjord Horse site on the web! >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA (where the weather is absolute perfection and Dorina is jiggy 'cause I haven't been getting her out enough this winter!) >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Norwegian woven peice w/horses
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In the photography section of this Norwegian site < http://www-not.hit.no/ef > I fould this woven work with what looks like a brown dun and an ulsdun, don't know what year, don't know if the horses are Fjordinger or not: http://www-not.hit.no/ef/folkekultur/grafikk/so-rodde.jpg >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #36
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>I have two Fjords: Lasse a four year old gelding and TUF Leka a three year old mare. I also have a twelve year old Paso Fino. I have been riding (badly) for many yaers as an adult. I am extemely fearful and timid. I had a bad horse accident a few years ago We bought Leka at 4 months and a year later bought Lasse at 2 years.We are not trainers,but worked with Leka to get her use to clippers, etc. then started under saddle. I could use input on what kind of riding and driving equipment to use (bits,etc.) while working with them now to give me the best control and best results without having a negative effect on the horses.<<< I am not a driver or a trainer, so I can't help on that score. All I can say to help is ... spend a lot of time working with your horses. Work on quiet hands and good communication through aids and cues until it becomes second nature with you and your horses. I have grown out a swatch of mane over Dorina's whithers which helps me feel a more secure when I'm riding bareback. Ride bareback whenever you can. It strengthens your legs and improves your balance which in turn improves your confidence! A lot of us wear a belly bag with a cell phone in it and a helmet when going alone on the trails. The cell phone gets me out on the trails a lot more often since I don't have a riding buddy other than my dog! Good Luck! >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: urine color
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I asked my vet about it the first time I saw red urine in the snow, she said that is gets concentrated in the winter because they don't drink as much water. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< on a chilly (in the 20's)Tennessee morning with the sun pouring in the windows >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
New German Fjord site
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Check out the photos, well worth the wait and the pop-up ads: http://www.get.to/nordvind >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: crossbreeding
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ruthie ... don't let Merek 'get your goat'. There are many of us who appriciate your contribution to FjordHorse-L. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Brands, Scanners and "Quest" wormer.
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I have a pretty good picture of a Fjord brand (from Holland I believe) on >my web page; check it out! >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589/old-fjords.html > >Amy Amy ... for some reason The photo of the neck brand is too dark for me to view, however, I see a Dutch triangle hip brand on the photo of the mare, "Eitenmulla". >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: mules
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I, personally, like a zebra to be a zebra, and a horse to be a >horse.I just don't see a reason to cross the two. The color is >interesting, but it doesn't go any further than that for me. I agree wholeheartedly. There was a zorse in Pat Parelli's seminar at Equitana. It behaved fairly well when I was watching, however, it did take off on its own and ran around until it was caught. I once saw a feature on zorses on Larry Mahon's horse series on TV, someone handed him the lead to a zorse foal and it objected so much to being handled that it flipped itself over backwards to get away. He did nothing unusual to it. And I think the poor things are downright homely looking in the face. If the line could be continued to accentuate the color and loose the wild behavior I could see breeding them. But since they are nothing but strange acting mules with unusual coloring, I don't see the sense in breeding them at all. It certainly isn't a color improvement over the Zebra! Here is a horse color I hope can be perpetuated as a color breed: Brindle Horses http://members.aol.com/brindlehos/ Three of my favorite photos from the site: http://members.aol.com/brindlehos/dunbar.htm http://members.aol.com/brinslides/tiger.jpg http://members.aol.com/brinslides/ginger.jpg I agree with the rule against outcrossing Fjords with other types of horse. I've seen several photo's of Fjord crosses and only one looked to truly be as nice a horse as a Fjord of decent quality and worth breeding for. And there is no telling what personality traits a cross would have that could be blamed on the Fjord. I can't see making a mule with a breeding quality Connemara mare, Andulasian mare, Dartmoor Pony mare, Lipizzan mare, Highland Pony mare, Norwegian Fjord mare, etc. A mare that is not breeding quality should not be bred at all. If mules could be made with stallions, that is a different story. But I don't think they use Donkey mares to make mules, size being the one factor I can think of. Besides, would you want a double dose of smarts? Fjord brains + donkey brains could mean nothing but trouble! >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Equine ID Brands
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My Dorina is a double branded Dutch mare and I love her brands, esppecially the upside-down triangle with a 'D' in it. I like the fact that it is there. It makes me proud. It is an unmistakeable identifying mark should we ever get seperated unexpectedly (heaven forbid). However, I sure would hate to have that hot branding iron put on my bottom! The Trakehner brand is the most beautiful I've ever seen. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: (no subject)
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This is probably his dam, looks pure Fjording to me: >> > > http://www.foreverton.com/graphx/ > >Well, Leighla looks like she could be a Fjord, but I don't think there's any >chance that she's Blonken's dam. Blonken is listed as 11 years old and >Leighla as 5 years old. > >Amy Good eyes, Amy ... maybe I should be a little more observant before I make assumptions llike that! LOLOL! >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
BOK Ranch poster
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here is a seriously cool modern art poster sold to help BOK Ranch ... children's therapy riding I believe ... with a Fjord pony, well, a modern art Fjord pony ... they forgot his forelock though!=:-o http://www.trifox.com/aux/bokranch/ >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Blonken
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: sini seppala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Meredith, which one of them do you think is the dam? Only found a list >of names and none of them says Fjord - which is the right one? It looks like the list of names of horses for sale has already changed since I wrote the mesage to send to the list. >>>False alarm, now I did find a Fjord mare at http://www.foreverton.com/snag.htm Sini.<<< Hey, wait a minute, Sini ... Snag is a llama! tehe The link is: http://www.foreverton.com/leighla.htm >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Re:13th Warrior
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The darling Fjordies came from the Unrau's Anvil's Acres. They have written about their experiences making the movie in the Fjord Herald and on this list. I think the story was based on a thoery that there really was a Neanderthal people still in existance during the Dark Ages living in the wilds of Norway. And that those people were the Wendol, Grendal, etc. The little fat lady figure they kept finding is called a Venus figure. They were made by Stone Age people in Europe. I'm glad I read the book first. This is one case where I felt it would have made the movie better had they broke away from the book a bit more. And I am 'so over' darkly filmed movies, I wish movie makers would wise up and realize that theirs is a visual medium - we need to see what's going on for us to enjoy it! And the quick clips that are so popular in music videos, commercials and movies - they used that fad way too often in this movie, so you never got any good visuals exept of Banderas' face! Since I have Braveheart in video drawer and we watch all the psycho killer movies like 'Silence of the Lambs', I watched this whole move and did not think it was unusually violent. Athough I love anthropology, Fjords and Banderas, the movie was disappointing but I still enjoyed it. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Blonken
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If this is a Fjord I'll eat my hat! http://www.foreverton.com/blonken.htm This is probably his dam, looks pure Fjording to me: http://www.foreverton.com/graphx/ >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: E-Z BOOTS
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >What sort of problem is caused by a farrier trimming too short in >very cold weather? I've never heard of this. If you have your horses bare feet trimmed up real neat and the ground freezes hard, the horse can wear its poor feet down til they are raw and tip-toeing in a very short time. The same can happen in dry hard summer clay with rocks; and in very wet weather on rocky and muddy ground where the wet weather keeps the hooves soft so that they quickly wear down on the rocks. This happened to Dorina last year. I thought her feet were fine. The weather had been very dry and the ground was hard as concrete. I was marvelling at how neat the ground was keeping her feet and I hadn't needed Dan the farrier in weeks. Then one morning I noticed Dorina was wincing with every step. Her hooves had suddenly worn down way too far and I was very upset because I couldn't get the farrier out here quick enough and I had to watch her tip-toe around until Dan could make it out to put shoes on her. Weeks later when he came out to reset her shoes I could still see where the bruising had been around the hoof wall. I thought Dan was cutting her to the quick when I saw red dots in the shavings. He told me that was old bruising from when her feet had worn down so badly weeks before.:( >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Fw: Dun looking for names?
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Is there an unwritten rule that >the names should be Norwegian or is it just nice to keep some of the >Norwegian flavor? >Tami My older mares name is Dorina which, although I haven't looked it up, I believe it is an Old English name. I think it suits her and the breed. I think most folks who know the breed prefer to see names that are either Norwegian, or that are Old World, or that have that kind of a style. My fillies name is NFR Aagot. Aagot is Scandinavian, probubly Norwegian. Dr. Brian named her. I love the name. It is a lot like the Russian name Olga, and since Russia has had a huge Viking influence I would bet that the names have the same roots. But it took me months to learn how to pronounce it and I know I still don't have it right. I asked Dr. Brian to pronounce it for me a few times. Then I met a Norwegian lady who pronounced it for me. The name rolled off her tounge in a way that we Americans just don't do! So beautiful. Even so, when I tell people her name, most women pause and say, "That's a pretty name." >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA (where if this icy weather keeps up, I'll have to go buy a pair of cleated football shoes!) >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Another Fjord? in art on the web
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Theodor Kittelsen (1857-1914) http://www.cs.uit.no/~espensk/kittelsen/index-2.0.html Unfortunately, when I clicked on the horse drawing I only got half the image, but I could print the small image alone at: http://www.cs.uit.no/~espensk/kittelsen/svartedauen.gif >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Fw: Dun looking for names?
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 7:41 PM Subject: Re: Dun looking for names? >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >In a message dated 1/20/2000 8:48:31 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >writes: ><< You QH people have it easy >> > >just love horses and can find something to appreciate in just about any >equine. I would love to have one of all the different breeds. I just don't >like people who cut down other people's horses. Not that you did. Sorry, I guess I did some fast writing and no proof reading. I didn't intend that to be a slight in the least! In fact I meant it very off the cuff and slightly sarcastic; I should of used a :-). When I think of finding nice Norwegian names when I don't know what they mean or how they are pronounced, the American word play, Quarter Horse names are a breeze. You QH people DO have it easy!:-) I hope you people who are still up are looking at that moon ... it sure is strange! >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Offical military art on the web
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Artistic Documentation of Norway NATO EXERCISES 1984 These paintings & drawings are part of THE MARINE CORPS ART COLLECTION ~ by Colonel D.J. Neary, USMCR ~ http://www.heritagestudio.com/norway.htm With a Fjording in this drawing!: http://www.heritagestudio.com/norway10.htm
Re: Norwegian folk art www site
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Just found this site: > >http://www.norskfolke.museum.no/presentasjon/bonde-best/ There is an ulsdun on an old plate in the BONDESTANDEN section, and more Fjords in the hunter section. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Norwegian folk art www site
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just found this site: http://www.norskfolke.museum.no/presentasjon/bonde-best/ Wonderful stuff. The IDEALSKIKKELSEN part has at least two Fjordinger. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot (It's cold and windy and I've set my clock at 9:30 to see the moon eclipse tonight ... hope these clouds roll on out of here!)
Re: Dun looking for names?
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You QH people have it easy ... I put the word 'done' into a search engine at a CD sales site and came up with all kinds of names, same could be dun at Amazon.com or IMDB. Hope this helps: Soon Be Dun Hank Dun It Brother Dun It Daddy's Dun Can Be Dun What Love Has Dun Love Has Dun Said 'n' Dun Dun For Love How It's Dun Will Be Dun All Been Dun Deeds Dun The Deed Is Dun Boy Dun Good Run Til Your Dun Dun 'n' Dusted Historical and geographical names: Dunedin Dunkirk St. Dunstan Dunsterforce >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA (where it is chilly, windy and spittin' snow!) >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
New pages at the Norwegian Fjord www site
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fjord Horse International AS Homepage
http://www.fjordhorseint.no/english/index_e.html
click on 'Salglister' ('Sales List')
http://www.fjordhorseint.no/norsk/salg/index_s.html
For some reason I could only get one 'stallion for sale' photo, and he is
lovely. They only had one 'mare for sale' photo but all had short pedigrees
for those of us who enjoy such things.
I haven't had the chance to see what else is new at that site.
>>><<< Meredith Sessoms
>>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA
>>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Tripping
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Sarah Vogeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Though now that I am hearing other peoples' observations of other Fjords with similar tripping episodes, I am curious to know why this is? Since I have little direct contact with this breed, and I am trying to soak up as much information as possible, I would really like to hear opinions from breeders on this list.<<< I am not a breeder yet, but there is only one thing I know of that could cause widespread co-ordination problems within a breed that is reknown worldwide for nimbleness and good movement - bad breeders. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Tree eating horses
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Casey wrote ... >My 2 horses, one Fjord and one QH, are systematically de-barking our >trees. We live in Alabama, and have quite a few (literally over 400) >trees on our property so it's not as if we bought, planted and nurtured >them . . but still . . we wonder if they are lacking some nutrition, >some supplement, something! to cause them to literally eat trees. > >I'm not worried enough to fence them off from the trees unless theres a >health factor involved Casey ... my two have stripped, chewed, bent and killed every tree in their paddock that was under an inch in diameter. Now they are working on a few larger ones. Aagot walks over them to bend them over and eat the leaves. The bigger she gets the larger the trees she is able to destroy! I think it is natural for them to eat leaves and bark to some degree. And down South we have plenty of trees for them to eat! Come fall, all I can do to combat fallen leaf and acorn eating is to feed them an endless supply of hay until the novelty of the season wears off. They do eat acorns, shell and all, with relish. All I know to do is to recognize, dig up and chop down all choke cherries and red maples. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Rosendalsborken
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Sarah Vogeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Being new to this breed and still learning what the true "type" really >looks like, I would like to see the photo(s) of this Fjord as well. Please let >me know if there are websites that might lead me in their direction. You can see the print of Rosendalsborken on Invild Nygaard Sveen's "The Fjordhorse Pages" at: http://www.multinett.no/ingvild/fjord.html In B.J. van Bon's book "Van "Vestlandhest" tot "Fjordenpaard" there is a picture of the print on page 4 and a cropped photo on page 11. Since the photo is cropped along the image of the horse there is no way for me to tell how good the person who cropped it was at keeping true to the image. This print obviously comes from the photo and is not romanticized very much at all. The photo shows him standing with his shoulder away and uphill which distorts him a little and makes him look like he has an uphill build. The only difference I see is the print artist added a little chest since it is hidden or cropped in the photo. It looks like Rosendalsborken had a lovely face. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Sunfishing Fjord at Sini's site
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There is a wonderful photo of a sunfishing Fjord at Sini's site. I am using it for wallpaper this week: http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Flash v/s Function
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anne wrote ... >>>There were two mares left in the final selection of two or three year old mares at the show at Forde. One was a wonderful mover; free and uphill, pushing from behind; all those things that attract a dressage rider's eye. The other was not as nice a mover but was drop dead beautiful; a head and face to die for, striking in color and would turn anyone's head, horse person or not. The judges deliberated for a long long time and finally chose the nicer looking mare for first place. When I asked them why, they said that it was a tough decision but basically felt that it was more important to preserve type in the breed than to breed for more extravagant movement which, while it has it's place is not necessarily what is needed to pull the cart up the mountain slope or work the fields...I loved that moment because it took my trained sport horse train of thought and soundly planted it in the context of the breed at hand. <<< >Then Elaine wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED] : > >Since we are on this topic of type, your story from Norway left me a little >confused. It sounds like the judges where just going for looks and the >pretty face instead of function. I'd take a real homely, nice mover over a >gorgeous looking, average one. What's that old saying, "beauty is as beauty >does"...or something like that. But maybe I am brainwashed by years of >working with warmbloods! I got the feeling Anne meant that special, typey, Fjord beauty. There are some things that make a Fjord a Fjord and an Arab an Arab. What is a breed without these distinct features? For example ... they now breed Arabs with long ears, lots of bloodveins, long legs, and narrow faces with hard eyes. To me those Arabian have lost type. The Fjord people must pay special attention to detail to truly perserve breed type. Assuming both mares were good movers, one better than the other, I would go for excellent Fjord type rather than to go for movement. A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that in-hand classes for horses and dogs are some kind of beauty contest. For some breeds that is exactly what it is. For other breeds, like Labrador Retrievers and Fjord Horses (and it should be for Arabians before they all turn into faux-Saddlebreds) conformation classes are an honest attempt to keep a breed distinctive and true to type. Without people agreeing on what makes a Fjord a Fjord - via the standard - and then educating people - via shows and evaluations and books - everybody would go by their own idea of what a Fjord should be, most probably based on the few Fjords they have encountered. The breed would lose type. It is a fad these days to say that a horse with a crest can't be athletic. If Fjord folks followed this fad we would loose breed type because a Fjord is not a Fjord without that strong neck. If this keeps our ponies from cutting cows like lightning ... then so be it. I don't want a horse that moves so fast she pops out from under me on a regular basis anyways! When you are talking about breeding Warmbloods, you aren't talking about preserving distinct features that make the breed instantly recognizable from any other breed. You are talking purely about conformation with some type thrown in, but not a distinct type. You could say, the Oldenburg has a longer ear, the Trakehner can have a dished face, but I don't know that anyone could take five typical broodmares from each of the Warmblood breeds and sort them out into their correct groups without looking at their brands. Recognizing type is very important with our Fjords. You can always breed for good movement within the breed but once breed type is lost can it be found again?? >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: llama wool
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I enjoy the llamas around our farm, they lend a peaceful attitude to >sometimes a hectic day. I think a llama baby has to be the cutest baby >of any animal other than, oh maybe a panda! Now wait a minute Pat ... could there possibly be anything cuter than a Fjord baby?!!!!;-) >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Out West vacation plans
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: Alison Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Ripple Creek Lodge in the White Mountains of CO has fabulous horses. >>They appoint ~you~ as the guide before you take off, so your group is free >>to go wherever you want to go at your own pace. > >Please don't think I want to imply anything about any place, but this is >a much abused system I agree, there is more room for abuse. But the horses here are used to go to definate places ... like to go fishing at Mirror Lake or to go on guided trips to the Table Tops for elk. The going is rough and they are often loaded with fishing gear, cameras and lunches. It's not an atmosphere for abuse. The folks are mostly families or old fishing buddies. It's not like a rental stable. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: Out West vacation plans
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wrote ... >Any nice guest ranch or b&b with reasonable prices and regular horses? I have only stayed at two guest ranches: Ripple Creek Lodge in the White Mountains of CO has fabulous horses. They appoint ~you~ as the guide before you take off, so your group is free to go wherever you want to go at your own pace. You can even claim a horse for your exclusive use for the duration of your stay. However, you pay dearly for filthy hunting cabins. Good food though and they take dogs. I can highly reccommend this place for a horseback ride and a meal after you turn your horse in ... sleep somewhere else. Absaroka Mountain Lodge in the Wapiti Valley between Cody WY and the east entrance to Yellowstone has very nice, clean cabins but the horse experience is lacking ... mixed, guided groups on bored horses. Nice restaurant, reasonable prices and they accept dogs too. Any guest ranches out there with nice cabins and good horses? Vivian wrote ... >If you ever head northeast please feel free to stop by for a visit. We have plenty of room. I wanted to go to New England and up into Canada to visit Fjordhestgards along the way to Boston and Quebec, but I got voted down before I even got the chance to voice my opinion! So ... out West it is! And I will check out the ADS travel booklet. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Out West vacation plans
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My husband, Steve, and I are planning a vacation from the South to Yellowstone next summer with our friends, a family of four. The route is not fixed yet, however, I like to head straight for the Rocky Mountains in CO. There is something special about waking up on the high plains looking at those high peaks and heading out to cross over them in the morning light. Since we will be traveling northwest we probably won't go south of CO. We might explore MT or ID a little this year and we usually head home over the Bighorns. Does anybody know of guest ranchs or b&bs that have Fjords along the way? Any nice guest ranch or b&b with reasonable prices and regular horses? Any nice guest ranch or b&b with dressage or driving lessons? >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
A new Fjord link to Norway
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.angelfire.com/ab/lindbak/ >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: religious views
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Whether you believe in the Lord in Heaven, Buddha, or the Kachina ... it's a wonderful world! Merry Christmas everybody!!!!! Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy TN USA ~ Dorina & NFR Aagot ~
fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Steve--is the deal on the list ---either pay or have ads put in? I would >prefer to pay than to look at the ads. BUT--if it's ads and pay or whatever >they aren't too obtrusive it would be better to have them than have no >list. The list is a great source of information and fun. > >Thanks for running it Steve! Ditto ~ Meredith ~
Re: trimming mane
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I read the article <http://fjord.hypermart.net/mail/manes.htm> and was surprised because I trim differently. I trim with a smooth transition from bridle path to mane whereas DeeAnne's article called for a bridlepath notch. To those who know ... is one way Dutch and the other Norwegian ... or one way Western and the other Eastern? I also like to ride bareback and I like at least 8 inches of mane over the wither to grow out ... if I need it I don't want to have to grope for a small swatch, I want a whole handfull! I got the idea from looking at photos of Dutch stallions like Briggen <http://www.fjordstudbook.com/h-brigge.htm>. But that means, when I cut the mane, I have to eyeball the line of the crest to the line of the withers and guess where to cut, otherwise my downward curve will head for the neck at too sharp an angle. Without the swatch, the mane should blend into the tallest spot on the withers. I will brush the mane before I start with a wet brush if they have rubbed against a tree and bent some hairs, or if the mane is so-o-o long it droops. There are lots of different ways to trim the mane. I trim the whole mane at first ... I do most of it from one side, then neaten up from the other side. I step back often to see what I'm doing, much like an artist with a painting. I even look at it from in front of the horse. I pay attention to my reference points - the bridle path, the high point (which is a little higher on the neck than the middle) and the wither. At first I do the whole mane the Norwegian way, without even looking at the colors. That way, if I lack the gumption or the patience to do the Dutch trim - with the black higher than the white - I can stop at that point and do the Dutch cut on another day. I usually have to come back at a later date and do some major corrections and trim those hairs that I missed the first time anyways. When I do the Dutch cut I use the black as a guide, and cut the white hairs on both sides at about 1/4 to 1/2 inch shorter than the black. Oh ... and be sure to wear gloves! And be careful to not get those tiny snips in your eyes on a windy day ... believe me, they are like a hard piece of straw, not a bit like an eyelash! Somebody mentioned that the Norwegians brush buttermilk into their mane to make it stand up perfectly for show. I have yet to try this ... has anyone else tried it? Does it work? Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: D-rings
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Karen wrote ... >>>its a dorky old foxhunting custom,( and it is still judged like that in a Hunting appointments class), that you carry your sandwich case there, off of those D rings. Glad I never had to rely on what was inside the sandwich case - too meagre a lunch for moi. Can't belive they havn't changed this over to something more modern and useful!<<< So, does this mean I will be forced to ride Western (team penning and communuty trail rides) although my interests lie with dressage and competitive riding ... just so that I can ride with a pack with coke, fruit and sandwiches, maybe a blanket to sit on and a camera. Is this why so many ladies riding Engish are approximately the size of toothpicks ... 'cause they can't take enough food with them on a day out riding?;-) I thought I was finally going to get a used dressage or all-purpose saddle, now I have to re-think my stratagy. Can a saddle repair shop put d-rings on both sides ... or would the cost be prohibitive? I'd love to find something like a used Kieffer Lech Pro with some serious thigh blocks for emergency use. Does anyone else use dressage thigh blocks, like a Western saddle, on the trail? Do they work or are you held in position too severely for comfort? Meredith Sessoms (Muffed in Tennessee)
D-rings
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Are d-rings on only one side of an all-purpose or dressage saddle? I keep running across photos of used all-purpose and dressage saddles that look like they have them one one side and not the other. If it is true ... why, you can't keep a saddle bag steady tied to one side????? Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy TN USA ~ Dorina & NFR Aagot ~
Surfin' for Fjordinger
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Stonewall/5775/norway.html http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Stonewall/5775/setesdalstab.jpg http://www.pferdezeitung.com/Eitenmueller/ http://pferdezeitung.com/Archiv/99-23.html http://pferdezeitung.com/Archiv/99-24.html http://home.sol.no/~caravan/Miljobild_pa_fjordingar.jpg http://www.ktv.koping.se/users/lehe039/enhast.htm http://www.w3.org/People/howcome/d/9707-vestland/ http://vestinternett.no/~reisemal/ Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy TN USA (where the azalias are trying to bloom and I had the windows open today) ~ Dorina & NFR Aagot ~
