Intro. Kate
This message is from: Sue Clark-Sorger clarksor...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:11:41 -0600 From: ke...@landsdrop.com Subject: Introduction This message is from: ke...@landsdrop.com Hi, my name is Kelly and I've been reading the list for a week or two now. I don't have a Fjord (yet) but I am looking... . I'm looking for a Fjord for trails, drill team, and a little lower level dressage. I met and fell in love with them at the Waverly Draft Horse Sale in Iowa in 2002 when I bought my percheron. There are so few in Texas, I've only seen two since then. Hi Kelly, Welcome to the list! I just purchased a 2 year old fjord gelding in Texas, so they are around. We will pick him up on March 18th and bring him home to my fjord mare Anniken. Who thinks she lives all alone in the barn as she doesn't seem to recognize the 2 Shetlands as equines. Sue next door in New Mexico. ON ANOTHER NOTE TO THE LIST. Kate (Heidi 1 2034-B) a King Gjestar daughter, was put down last week. Kate was 31 years old and what a grand mare she was. Kate was owned by Ginny Cowles at Los Trigos Ranch.NM Ginny died a couple of years ago of lung cancer. Her foreman Max Weber took over ownership of Kate. Kate only had one foal of her own but for many years she was grandma to all the weanling. After the babies left their moms Kate took over and taught them manners and watched out for them. Years ago when my mare Katrina died giving birth, Ginny sent Kate down to be with the foal, Keswick, for 6 weeks. Los Trigos Ranch had as many as 30 fjords at one time and now there are just 2 fjords, Fanny (the first fjord in the first evaluation book) and Annabelle. It is quite sad when I go to the ranch and the pens and stalls are empty. Sue Crown Oak Fjords Sandia Park NM Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
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This message is from: Linda Lottie horselo...@hotmail.com Who thinks she lives all alone in the barn as she doesn't seem to recognize the 2 Shetlands as equines Honestly, isn't that the truth. I look out in my pastures and the three fjords are all together far off from the QH and Appy. They all get along but just don't hang out that much. Linda in WI Linda Baker Lottie Wild Wind Farm Equestrian Center Where Hearts and Hooves Come Together Grantsburg WI No love, no friendship can cross the path of our destiny without leaving some mark on it forever. -Francois Muriac www.heartsandhoovesforever.blogspot.com From: clarksor...@comcast.net To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Intro. Kate Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:59:05 -0700 This message is from: Sue Clark-Sorger clarksor...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:11:41 -0600 From: ke...@landsdrop.com Subject: Introduction This message is from: ke...@landsdrop.com Hi, my name is Kelly and I've been reading the list for a week or two now. I don't have a Fjord (yet) but I am looking... . I'm looking for a Fjord for trails, drill team, and a little lower level dressage. I met and fell in love with them at the Waverly Draft Horse Sale in Iowa in 2002 when I bought my percheron. There are so few in Texas, I've only seen two since then. Hi Kelly, Welcome to the list! I just purchased a 2 year old fjord gelding in Texas, so they are around. We will pick him up on March 18th and bring him home to my fjord mare Anniken. Who thinks she lives all alone in the barn as she doesn't seem to recognize the 2 Shetlands as equines. Sue next door in New Mexico. ON ANOTHER NOTE TO THE LIST. Kate (Heidi 1 2034-B) a King Gjestar daughter, was put down last week. Kate was 31 years old and what a grand mare she was. Kate was owned by Ginny Cowles at Los Trigos Ranch.NM Ginny died a couple of years ago of lung cancer. Her foreman Max Weber took over ownership of Kate. Kate only had one foal of her own but for many years she was grandma to all the weanling. After the babies left their moms Kate took over and taught them manners and watched out for them. Years ago when my mare Katrina died giving birth, Ginny sent Kate down to be with the foal, Keswick, for 6 weeks. Los Trigos Ranch had as many as 30 fjords at one time and now there are just 2 fjords, Fanny (the first fjord in the first evaluation book) and Annabelle. It is quite sad when I go to the ranch and the pens and stalls are empty. Sue Crown Oak Fjords Sandia Park NM Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
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This message is from: melissa ridebaber...@att.net I have his half sister the 1.5 year old. She is doing wonderfull. Like I said, if in Fort Worth swing by anytime. I know the farm she came from in Missouri they have wonderful fjords. Melissa in Fort Worth Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
returning member intro
This message is from: Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello again. I used to be on the list a while back, but left when I needed to get my volume of email under control. I think it's under control now, and I thought that it would be nice to chat with Fjord people again. Here's a brief intro. I live on a small farm in Longmont, Colorado, and I have three Fjords: Belle (9 year old mare), Ivy (five year old mare), and Britta (Belle's two year old filly). I've been around horses all my life and have owned a variety of breeds, but I always wanted to check out Fjords. In 2004 I got the chance to buy Belle, and I enjoyed her so much that I bought another one! Belle was pregnant when I bought her, so that's how I got the third. I mostly do trail riding with Belle, as well as a little low level dressage basics in the arena. I'm thinking of teaching her to go over little cross rails, just for fun. I've done a lot of different trails with her, from urban flat trails to mountain trails, and she's a lot of fun. She's pretty energetic and never seems to wear out, not even on all-day trail rides. And she loves to canter down the trail. She's my energizer pony! I also do trail riding with Ivy, but she's still green. We're still working on dressage basics in the arena and short to medium length trail rides at the walk. She's a little lazier than Belle, but she's also still fat and out of shape, so she may perk up with more riding. I plan to do pretty much the same sorts of things with Britta once she's old enough to start. She went to baby boot camp this summer for an intensive ground work tune-up and for an introduction to everything she'll need to know right up to the point of being ridden. I won't have her started until she's three or four, but she's been so easy that it'll be a breeze. Nothing bothers her! The trainer also ponied her on a few trail rides, which is something I'd like to continue doing. In addition to my three Fjords, I also have a quiet, well-schooled, and exceptionally easy to ride Percheron/TB mare who has taught me a lot about dressage and my retired and arthritic do everything Paint mare from my younger days. For photos of the Fjords and stories of their adventures, see my farm web site and blog (URL below). --Amy -- Marehaven Farm ~*~ Longmont, CO http://www.marehaven.org The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: Summers Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi amy, just read your email off the fjord list,my name is summers moore and I have one gelding fjord named bizcocho and a mare coming from wisconsin named mara. she is with foal due next may. I am presently bringing them to my house in carbondale colorado and she arrives in 3 days. My brother lives in niwot and I was wondering where the niwot trail was if i ever brought one of them down for a visit/? your team looks great. take care summers On Aug 23, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Amy wrote: This message is from: Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello again. I used to be on the list a while back, but left when I needed to get my volume of email under control. I think it's under control now, and I thought that it would be nice to chat with Fjord people again. Here's a brief intro. I live on a small farm in Longmont, Colorado, and I have three Fjords: Belle (9 year old mare), Ivy (five year old mare), and Britta (Belle's two year old filly). I've been around horses all my life and have owned a variety of breeds, but I always wanted to check out Fjords. In 2004 I got the chance to buy Belle, and I enjoyed her so much that I bought another one! Belle was pregnant when I bought her, so that's how I got the third. I mostly do trail riding with Belle, as well as a little low level dressage basics in the arena. I'm thinking of teaching her to go over little cross rails, just for fun. I've done a lot of different trails with her, from urban flat trails to mountain trails, and she's a lot of fun. She's pretty energetic and never seems to wear out, not even on all-day trail rides. And she loves to canter down the trail. She's my energizer pony! I also do trail riding with Ivy, but she's still green. We're still working on dressage basics in the arena and short to medium length trail rides at the walk. She's a little lazier than Belle, but she's also still fat and out of shape, so she may perk up with more riding. I plan to do pretty much the same sorts of things with Britta once she's old enough to start. She went to baby boot camp this summer for an intensive ground work tune-up and for an introduction to everything she'll need to know right up to the point of being ridden. I won't have her started until she's three or four, but she's been so easy that it'll be a breeze. Nothing bothers her! The trainer also ponied her on a few trail rides, which is something I'd like to continue doing. In addition to my three Fjords, I also have a quiet, well-schooled, and exceptionally easy to ride Percheron/TB mare who has taught me a lot about dressage and my retired and arthritic do everything Paint mare from my younger days. For photos of the Fjords and stories of their adventures, see my farm web site and blog (URL below). --Amy -- Marehaven Farm ~*~ Longmont, CO http://www.marehaven.org The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: Bo Fjords Horse Ranch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your interesting inquiry, We do not have anything in a mare that is over two years right now that is quiet and gentle, (bomb proof) We do have a nice older gelding that I used in a team for years, and also rode quite a bit,Had to put the mate down due to ringbone in his front hoves, There is a breeder in ID, that has a light grey almost white long two year old Filly that has been ridden some, but as he says she need more hours, Says shes quiet and friendly, Think he has Pics of her being ridden, You can call him at 208 263 3344 Chip Lamb at Quad L Fjords at Sandpoint ID, If we can be of further assistance to you Please let us know, Thanks again , Larry at Bo_Fjords - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Ross-McKee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:16 AM Subject: Hello! INTRO letter and in a year. a sensible older Fjord mare that needs a good home and would like to be a companion and go for a few rides a week and might even be asked to pull a sleigh once in a while in the winter and a little cart up into the mountains so we can take the house dog out for a picnic unless teh bears continue to be an issue in which case we'll just stay in the valley and trot down the old stage coach roads! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Hello! INTRO letter
This message is from: Elizabeth Ross-McKee [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI! My name is Elizabeth and I live in Deer Lodge, Montana USA with my husband (a non horse person), our housedog Carlos, feral cat SawMill Sally and our Orange Boy Cat that we call Sigurd. We welcomed our newest member a 4 year old rescue horse (percheron/tbred?/quarterhorse? cross) Trinity to the menagerie just recently, in fact she arrives on September 1. I found HER when I was scouring the countryside for an older, sensible mare preferably a Fjord, she needed a home so she'll be a good pasture mate for the Fjord that I SHALL find in the next year! I met a lady from Cove, OR over a year ago through eBay. She raises Fjords and has convinced me that this sweet eyed little draft is the only horse for me. So I have been really wanting a horse again after 25 years of living in town without them. I have been scared to my teeth to start riding again as I have a spinal injury and some other health problems that have housebound me for years. Well it's now or never and everyone says a draft or draft cross makes a good companion as well as a darn sturdy riding horse. So ... ok. It's back to being the 'horses' mamma' again after all these years. Finally, at age OMG 50, my husband and I bought a little farmhouse that we call Spruce Acre as Green Acres was taken... get my drift LOL!!.. it's old and cute and not at all pretentious or fancy. The BEST part is the old tin house we are rennovating into a heated one horse barn/hay/tack storage, the fenced paddock and the large double lot that has a NICE grassed in horse lot and we will fence the rest for another smallish pasture. We just have to find a decent large grazing/running pasture close by for the rescue horse and eventually her pasture mate Fjord I intend to acquire this next year. So there you have it. Im no spring chicken, was raised chasing cows, rodeo and later I even evented for a while. I wish i remembered dressage as it will come so much in handy training this new horse so I will probably be back in 'school' soon with the new mare. I am a jewelry designer, eBay powerseller and house gnome. Kids are grown and live in CA and GA - a software designer and an attorney. My husband operates kilns at the nearby sawmill. I am starting my MA in January. We're pretty quiet folks these days so I am looking to spice up our lives with some equines of the draft size. I am always open for a chat, advice on draft horse ownership, where on EARTH to find a saddle broke fjord that is not a baby (i'd take a retired skidder horse...) and any equine info for Montana. I am learning through the state website that horses here are bug candy in a HUGE way. I've seen horrible parasites in our neighbor's animals and they take pretty good care of them too! We are at the foot of the Pintler mountains on one side of the valley adn the Divide range on the other. Sub alpine semi desert area. Yup hotter than the Hinges of Hades in the summer and Artic winters. See why I'm after a Fjord? cold weather horses suffer far less here than their hot blooded cousins! What I need.. a used fencer a wide tree saddle. is there such a thing as a hybrid English/Australian style and Western cross?LOL!! The rescue horse is only 15h1 but is only 4... and she's gonna be BROAD when filled out in a few years. assorted tack - it's been 25 years since I had horses! the only thing i have is a saddle in need of some TLC and LOTS of saddle soaping (a recent gift), my 4-H Spurs from 1969 (no kidding) and some large snaffles. a horse trailer! (next year's budget thank you very much until then it's the neighbor's) and in a year. a sensible older Fjord mare that needs a good home and would like to be a companion and go for a few rides a week and might even be asked to pull a sleigh once in a while in the winter and a little cart up into the mountains so we can take the house dog out for a picnic unless teh bears continue to be an issue in which case we'll just stay in the valley and trot down the old stage coach roads! Well off to work! Elizabeth See what youre getting into before you go there The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
New member Intro
This message is from: Cortney Lannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, I'm new to the group and wanted to offer a short intro My name is Cortney and I live in PA with my hubby and two children and of course our horses and dogs. I do not own a Fjord, but have one on my wishlist. We have 7 horses of varying breeds. Prince - Paint Collada - Paint Gem - Paint Chex - Half Arab Blondie - Welsh Snickers - Welsh Smudge - Welsh My daughter and I ride English and began competing in local competitions last year. I'm here to learn what I can until the day finally comes that I FINALLY can have my own fjord. Cortney in PA Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: Mary love [EMAIL PROTECTED] if any one is looking for great tack!!! the two tacky ladies in washington state is great and she will get trees on saddles bent to fit and special orders drop shipped to your door any weare!! her name ie evelyn fredrickson and her #is 360 678 3224... just tell her that mary love told you about her shop!!! she is a great lady for just abput any thing!!!oh and the prices . cant be beat I just got an endurance saddle there the whole set for 350.00 that was saddle greth irons and leathers!!! great shop mary love - Original Message - From: oe Wilsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.commailto:fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: Re: intro and questions This message is from: oe Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Kim We ordered a harness from camptown. The lady that now owns the business is named Margaret. I can't remember her last name. Her number is 1800-717-0957. She is very knowledgable and tells you exactly which measurements she needs. The harnesses are beautiful. We had Jeff Pedersen try them on his team and they are great. We have a single driving harness for our buggy and a farm harness with hames for heavy pulling. These were made by a local harness maker. Good luck Pat and OE Wilson Uff Da Fjords Hyde Park, UT
intro and questions
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi. I am new to this list. I just bought my first Fjord last week. I haven't even gotten him home yet, but I am extremely excited. I have several questions...1) which harness is prefered? regular pleasure harness or the kind with hames? 2) is there someone who makes harnesses specifically for Fjords? 3) because Fjords are long-lived, does that mean they are slow to mature? what age do people generally start to ride and/or drive their Fjords? Kim Horn in VA
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This message is from: John D. Herr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kim, Welcome to the world of Fjords. I hope you have a long association with Fjords, for they are addictive. I am sure there will be many responses for you but here is my opinion. All types of harness will work but you will generally want to match the type of usage you plan to do with you Fjord to the harness. The only harnesses made specifically (some may be made in the US) for Fjords come from Norway. Moreover, although they fit Fjords because of the design and the Fjords mane, they can be used on all breeds. Olaf Nyby is a driving trainer from Norway who makes and imports a Norwegian harness that will fit Fjords, and he is based in Va. when in the US. http://www.pleasurethymefarm.com/ this will have his information and link to his web site. Good Luck with your Fjord. John D. Herr
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This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] HARNESS: It depends on what you want to do, BUT If you join the Recreational Equine Driving list you will learn a LOT about harnessing and driving, and you should get Barb Lee's book on harness. http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RecreationalEquineDriving/?yguid=572457 LOTS of info in the Files on the website. Generally the Collar and hames, while harder to fit, if well fitted is much more comfortable for the horse. You should learn about Angle of draft, etc. etc. from Barb' book Lots to learn about driving and harness. But if you are simply going to do a little pleasure driving with a light cart, a breast collar harness will do fine. Camptown Harness , when Dave McWethy owned it, made Harness for Fjords. I think they still can do that however. Find a good driving instructor and trainer and/or join a driving club! AGE: Fords do seem slower to mature than , say, Quarter horses, but Dr. Deb Bennett's article Timing and Rate of Skeletal Maturation in Horses, http://www.equinestudies.org/knowledge_base/ranger.htmlWill give you some guidelines. My feeling is that you wait until at least 3 to RIDE, altho you can drive them and do a lot of training before that. Let us know when you get your Fjord, tell us all about him! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, Partly cloudy, will be 70 degrees today Hi. I am new to this list. I just bought my first Fjord last week. I haven't even gotten him home yet, but I am extremely excited. I have several questions...
Re: intro and questions
This message is from: Carol Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi. I am new to this list. I just bought my first Fjord last week. I haven't even gotten him home yet, but I am extremely excited. I have several questions...1) which harness is prefered? regular pleasure harness or the kind with hames? This depends on what you are going to be doing and what kind of vehicle you will be using. 2) is there someone who makes harnesses specifically for Fjords? Camptown Harness 3) because Fjords are long-lived, does that mean they are slow to mature? I believe they are very usable at 5 for starting to ride a lot and earlier for driving. I can send you a very detailed report on how all horses mature and why it is important to let them fully develope before using hard. what age do people generally start to ride and/or drive their Fjords? I am driving my 3yr. old, but try not to over do it with her. they have to be conditioned too. hope this helps and you get some answers from those more in the know about all of this. There is the archives, too for this imformation. Good Luck with you new Fjord friend. Kim Horn in VA -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
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This message is from: Douglas Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome Kim, Dave Mc Wethy makes harness specifically for Fjords [and other breeds]. He does wonderful work. Good luck, Peg Knutsen www.elltel.net/kffjord/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 6:51 AM Subject: intro and questions This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi. I am new to this list. I just bought my first Fjord last week. I haven't even gotten him home yet, but I am extremely excited. I have several questions...1) which harness is prefered? regular pleasure harness or the kind with hames? 2) is there someone who makes harnesses specifically for Fjords? 3) because Fjords are long-lived, does that mean they are slow to mature? what age do people generally start to ride and/or drive their Fjords? Kim Horn in VA
intro to fjords
This message is from: CHERYL GARNICA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kim, welome! I remember the excitement waiting for my fjord to come, like a mom with a new baby! First glimpse of his face in person... oh! just priceless! Very nice people here to help us newbies out. Just a comment on fjord growth. My gelding was 4 when I got him, measured almost 13.3H. I've had him 15 months and kept thinking he appears taller or figured I was shrinking. Measured last week, sure enough, he has hit a hair above 14H. Girth? I won't go thereexcept to say the heat wave is over and we will be working more! Cheryl in S. Cal
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This message is from: Russ and Laurie Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, surely you know Dave has moved out to the West Coast now! Oregon I think. That would be NW Washington, Jean. Laurie
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This message is from: oe Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Kim We ordered a harness from camptown. The lady that now owns the business is named Margaret. I can't remember her last name. Her number is 1800-717-0957. She is very knowledgable and tells you exactly which measurements she needs. The harnesses are beautiful. We had Jeff Pedersen try them on his team and they are great. We have a single driving harness for our buggy and a farm harness with hames for heavy pulling. These were made by a local harness maker. Good luck Pat and OE Wilson Uff Da Fjords Hyde Park, UT
Intro to Driving
This message is from: sandra church [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wanted to report that Sue Banks her gorgeous fjord mare Lilli gave a wonderful presentation this past Sunday at Deep Run Hunt Club which is just west of Richmond, Va. The local driving club had their annual Intro to Driving Day so that folks new to driving can learn and members of the club have a wonderful opportunity to drive in an open area and try a cones course. Sue demonstrated how to desensitize a horse Lilli was wonderful (if not bored by the whole thing). She was beautifully turned out...clipped, clean...just beautiful. I left Loki at home because he wasn't just not clipped and not cleanhe stunk! Loki had a close encounter with a skunk during Saturday night he spent a lot of time rolling in the mud trying to eliminate the odor! Never a dull minute...Thank you Sue for an excellent presentation! Sandra Loki in Va.
re: Jane's Intro / Welsh
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the list, Jane! I have a 17 yr old Welsh, too (been with me for almost 7 yrs now is my working partner) - and *just* brought home a Fjord of my own last June (will become a trail horse maybe a working partner.)Pics of my little herd _http://www.rockymountaintrails.net/Horses.html_ (http://www.rockymountaintrails.net/Horses.html)Hey, and my hubby Rick is from Cokato MN! ;-) Goldie our Welsh gets along well with Loki the Fjord. But then, porky Loki gets along with *anyone* who'll share their meal! LOL Happy trails! Sher in Aurora, CO Like to ride weekdays? Colorado _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COWeekdayRider/_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COWeekdayRider/) Trail book for equestrians, Colorado _http://RockyMountainTrails.net/Book.html_ (http://rockymountaintrails.net/Book.html)
Apologies and intro
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I'd like to apologize about a personal email going out to the whole group. And now I guess I'd better officially de-lurk! I think you got most of the relevant info from my mis-sent email. I live in Saint Paul and recently bought -- gasp! -- a Welsh pony. I subscribed to the list when I was thinking of getting a fjord. I decided at some point that a fjord might not be the best horse for me -- a novice who is occasionally still intimidated by horses. I think my pony was the perfect choice for me. In the future though . . . you never know! In the meantime, I still learn so much from the discussions here that I cannot bring myself to unsubscribe! And just as important, if not more so, I have made a couple of good friends here. So maybe I can be part of the adopted fjord family. :-) My apologies for the previous list noise, and many thanks for your lively discussions that have helped me learn about fjords and horses in general. I know I am a better horse owner because of your generosity with your knowledge. Jane Fallander Minnesota
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This message is from: ulli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello LIst, I am new to the list would like to introduce myself. My name is Catherine Woodliffe. I live outside of Belleville Ontario live with 9 fjord horses, two aged grades (27 years old) one percheron gelding, we primarily ride our horses but now have a few of them trained to drive. I've also been involved in breeding show dogs (American Staffordshires for nearly 20 years) now Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs, which we also use for carting (if you don't know what they are, visit our website: www.efarms.cc/swissy.htm ). It's nice to see such a diversified group of Fjord lovers on this list! cheers! catherine
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This message is from: Edward L Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone this is Ann from ToadSong Farm, new to your list and new to Fjords. Though I'm planning to lurk, I'm following the welcome message's suggestion of introducing myself and our farm. We keep horses, children, dogs, cats, and chickens on a small acreage in south central CT. We have two wonderful Fjord mares and a lovely (though invisible to visitors from Antigonish County!) Arabian mare. The horses are all terrific children's mounts and of course the Fjords drive marvelously! Both came from Carol and Arthur Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm, who have been patient instructors and are now dear friends! We have had our 7-year-old Myrstein daughter, Riena, for exactly one year, and just this past November we took delivery of Maryke, known and loved by all friends and past guests of BDF. Our plan is to breed both mares in a year or two, but for now are going to learn as much as we can at home, the Fjord shows, and evaluations -- Ed and I had a wonderful weekend auditing the one at SUNY Morrisville this fall -- what a great opportunity to learn, everybody should go, JMO. All the Fjord people we have met have been great -- welcoming and so helpful. Just one more thing to love about the breed. I've been reading the last 40 or 50 messages, and want to thank all of you who post for sharing your insights. Hmm, will I really be able to just lurk and not chime in?... Ann
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This message is from: Warren Stockwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome Dagmar!! Roberta - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:16 PM Subject: Intro This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was quite surprised when I started receiving emails from this list, I thought it was a dead list. From the post I read I realize that I still don't receive emails from everyone, only through quotes from others I see these missed emails. My name is Dagmar, I am 38 years old, mother of 2 teenagers, 15 and 16 and a toddler, 2.5 years old. I do not currently own a Fjord horse, but would like to purchase one within a years time. I currently own 3 dogs, 1 Guinea Pig, a bunch of fish, a Budgie and a National Show Horse gelding named Party Lights, who is 16.1 h, 16 years old and my very first horse in 16 years, my first horse in the US. I was born and raised in Germany, owned a Fjord horse mare Laikar. I had to sell Laikar in 1988 because my American husband was re-stationed from Germany to the US. Laikar is 24 years old today and my very best friend of 22 years is still looking after her for me. I wish I had the money to ship my horse to the states, because I would have, but it gives me great comfort knowing that she is with a loving family and well taken care of. I am still a German citizen and live in Vancouver WA. Today is a bleak day for me because I have to say good-bye to one of the best dogs I have ever owned, his name is Bär, he is a Rottweiler male and he has had my heart for 11 1/2 years now. He came to us as a rambunctious 7 week old puppy! Anyway, hope to meet more of you here and learn MORE about Fjord horse keeping here in the United States, even though I believe it's not much different from any other horse breed ;) Happy Fjording! Dagmar
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was quite surprised when I started receiving emails from this list, I thought it was a dead list. From the post I read I realize that I still don't receive emails from everyone, only through quotes from others I see these missed emails. My name is Dagmar, I am 38 years old, mother of 2 teenagers, 15 and 16 and a toddler, 2.5 years old. I do not currently own a Fjord horse, but would like to purchase one within a years time. I currently own 3 dogs, 1 Guinea Pig, a bunch of fish, a Budgie and a National Show Horse gelding named Party Lights, who is 16.1 h, 16 years old and my very first horse in 16 years, my first horse in the US. I was born and raised in Germany, owned a Fjord horse mare Laikar. I had to sell Laikar in 1988 because my American husband was re-stationed from Germany to the US. Laikar is 24 years old today and my very best friend of 22 years is still looking after her for me. I wish I had the money to ship my horse to the states, because I would have, but it gives me great comfort knowing that she is with a loving family and well taken care of. I am still a German citizen and live in Vancouver WA. Today is a bleak day for me because I have to say good-bye to one of the best dogs I have ever owned, his name is Bär, he is a Rottweiler male and he has had my heart for 11 1/2 years now. He came to us as a rambunctious 7 week old puppy! Anyway, hope to meet more of you here and learn MORE about Fjord horse keeping here in the United States, even though I believe it's not much different from any other horse breed ;) Happy Fjording! Dagmar
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This message is from: John Martie Bolinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] At one of the Horse Progress Days in PA, John and I looked at a one horse reel-type mower. The manufacturer said that the smaller model could easily be pulled by a single Halflinger, so I am sure a Fjord could manage it. I think it had 3 rotary mowers staggered underneath a deck. There were shafts and the whole thing looked sort of like a forecart. I can't remember the manufacturer though. Martie in MD
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kay wrote: ...Is there such a thing as a 14.2 to 15 hand Belgian?... Actually, yes, there is, if you up that height to 15.2 or so. Look for belgians raised by people who use them for farming, not for showing. DeeAnna
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/12/01 5:07:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe I'd enjoy hearing how you wound up with Fjords. Was it the same drive to do something useful, skilled and honest with your favorite broomtail, too? First thing that caught my attention was their beauty and charm. You're new here, so you don't know my story (okay so MOST of the people here do, almost verbatim). I have a special needs child. And had taken a bad fall off of a TALL horse. So the character drew me next. I think this breed of horse is one of the best for special needs kids. While my son is at school I borrow his Juniper to take to dressage lessons. On thursdays, the little person taking lessons right before me is a sweet little girl with cerebral palsy. She is maybe 3 years old? And therapeutic riding has helped her enormously. The MINUTE she sees Juniper I hear a beautiful squeal of delight. When she is taken off of the therapy pony she MUST be picked up and carried over to Juniper, to pat her nose, admire her forelock. Her dad, when he first saw Juniper made a bit of a derisive comment. But as thursdays would come and go, I'd see more and more interest in him about fjords. He wants to know if they are strong enough to carry him (YES!). And he's now thinking, if his little girl is still interested in horses in 3 or 4 years, a fjord would be JUST the ticket for her. So yes, I think doing something useful, skilled and honest is just the thing I wanted from my horse! Of course, our visions of what useful is are different, the fjord still fits the bill! Pamela
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kay welcome! I believe my first fjord came about as I was aging (rapidly) and had gone from my 17 hand warm blood to the couch. When I saw Ann Appleby riding Wez where I had my boy in training I was quite impressed. I read up on the beasties and sure enough was able to buy a very sweet boy from Karen (lister) and we did very well until his death (tragic). But then after some time I bought Gunnar who was and is quite a challenge. The other night he lifted the gate off again and I was shocked to see him grazing on the lawn. It was not until that evening when I went into the feed room that I found he had also been there. Frantically I searched the grain bags and supplement sacks. He had rearranged one grain bag and had pulled the alfalfa bales down. The door is left open usually as it does not lead into a pasture. I think he got about 15 pounds of grain and thank God turned to the alfalfa and then his conscience got the best of him. Dreamer, the green lawn looked too tantalizing. Thank heavens no harm done and the door is now closed and the gate roped shut until I can fix the hinges. I personally think you would enjoy the power of a fjord when it comes to pulling. Plus their personalities are usually people loving. I have the exception but then he has other appealing pluses such as being completely reliable under saddle. Good luck in your search. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, Wa 98563
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This message is from: Carol J. Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Margaret Hicks wrote: This message is from: Margaret Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, At this point, I don't have much to say of a practical nature or in a familiar knowing way about Fjords. I admire the Fjord's appearance and descriptive write ups very much. I've never seen one face-to-face, but I'd like to. That's about it. I'm mulling over the idea of acquiring a draft pony...or perhaps a team. I daydream about using original horsepower to mow 10 acres. (I wonder if there is such a gizmo as a one horse mower?) Inotherwords, I believe I'd really enjoy owning and using a sure 'nuf working animal. Hi Kay, Where do you live? I know someone who might have a pair of Percherons with harness for sale. They are well broke and a real dream to drive. -- Built FJORD tough Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
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This message is from: Joe Glick [EMAIL PROTECTED] I live in Lancaster Co. PA, and a lot of the Amish mow their lawns with a small horse or pony. (Like a Haflinger, for instance) Most of them use a gang of reel mowers. Three mowers in a gang will mow a 60 path and can be pulled with a Haflinger or Fjord. I know one guy that mows his lawn with a Fjord. But if you're mowing 10 acres, you probably don't want to do it all at once with only one horse. Unless he's in real good condition. There's a local shop that sells any configuration you might want for a horse drawn mower. Except for sickle bar mowers. I don't think they handle them. They make their own fore-cart that you hitch your horse into and attach a ground driven gang mower or to a motorized rotary finish mower. Hope this helps. Joe
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome Kay- The Norwegian Fjordhorse may be just what you're looking for. Many folks use them for real farm work in addition to pleasure/competition driving. List member Amy Evers works for the Small Farmer's Journal. I'm sure she can give you some article references. Happy Fjording! Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/12/2001 5:07:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (I wonder if there is such a gizmo as a one horse mower?) Yes, there certainly is such a thing as a one horse sickle bar mower. Several companies made them; McCormick - Deering is probably the most well known. However, they are pretty hard to find these days. Let me know where abouts you live and I may be able to point you in the right general direction! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Margaret Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, At this point, I don't have much to say of a practical nature or in a familiar knowing way about Fjords. I admire the Fjord's appearance and descriptive write ups very much. I've never seen one face-to-face, but I'd like to. That's about it. I'm mulling over the idea of acquiring a draft pony...or perhaps a team. I daydream about using original horsepower to mow 10 acres. (I wonder if there is such a gizmo as a one horse mower?) Inotherwords, I believe I'd really enjoy owning and using a sure 'nuf working animal. I expect the following sentiments might hit a raw nerve on the heart of a true-blue Fjord enthusiast. Good draft character, good feet and a large dollop of versatility matter more to me than breed and/or show records of it's ancestors. At this point, I don't know if I'll wind up with a 'runt' Belgian ( Is there such a thing as a 14.2 to 15 hand Belgian?); or a Haflinger; or a Fjord; or whatever. I intend to spend the winter reading all I can about drafts, going to auctions, and talking drafts with any soul kind enough to share knowledge. I presently own a pony-sized mule (too short to be useful), a Saddlebred mare, and a TWH filly. While a good group, none are particularly suitable for what I've got in mind. I believe I'd enjoy hearing how you wound up with Fjords. Was it the same drive to do something useful, skilled and honest with your favorite broomtail, too? Kay
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This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] listers, tomorrow night my saddle club is having a club only team penning/play night. quinn, my fjord, is going to accompany me on this venture. he is used to cattle, as we have two cattle ranches on two sides. so he visits with the bovines on a daily basis. but i notice when i am out riding and we come across bovine strangers he shys away and goes to the other side of the trail. tomorrow will be his first in the ring so to speak contact. any suggestions? yeehaw
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome Mary Dixon! I'm also a clicker trainer and look forward to hearing of your adventures with Ibsen. Congrats on your purchase and welcome to the Fjord world! Brigid Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://members.nbci.com/mrgnpetsit/fjord1;Our Fjords/A
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mary! Glad to see you are on this list, you will be able to learn loads of Fjord info here. The people here are very nice. There are also some who do clicker training themselves, so maybe you can share stories! Interestingly enough, Mid's Ibsen, or Ibsie as we call him, fell instantly in love with Mary when he saw her. He followed her around like a puppy, it was so cute. We cannot wait to hear the stories of Mary and Ibsie. Congratulations Mary on your new boy! Lynda Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231.689.9902 http://hometown.aol.com/heithingi/BaileysNorwegianFjords.html
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This message is from: Mary Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all I am afraid it is all my fault that my fellow artist friend did the fjord painting! I put her up to it after telling her how fantastic all the fjordie people have been to me in my search for the right horse! She is gathering money to pay for her father's newfoundland's ear polyp surgery and has kind of been through life's wringer a little herself. About a year and a half ago she was dragged a few hundred feet when her harness went kaputz on her while on Drummond Island (where she is from) in MI. Her morgan mare was frightened out of her mind and just wanted to get away from that broken, twisted, part human/part busted harness mess that was skidding and screaming on the gravel road behind her. You'd never guess what she went through to look at her now. She looks great! Upon having my first 'real' horse accident (a no-broken bones black eye spill in 1996) I told her I would probably never ride again. Undaunted, she scoured mid-MI without my knowing and invariably found me my first horse.a 20 year old morgan who built my confidence back to almost where it once was. In the meantime, she also taught me clicker training for my dogs and my horse (a lot more humane than what I was used to using...choke now, ask questions later). I experienced a renaissance of animal training interest, enough to let my old man horse go to yet another timid adult returning rider who deserved a chance at building her confidence. I began my search for a norwegian fjord when another friend of mine, who I met on http://www.horsepage.com (the MI Horse Page) almost three years ago, who is actually from Sweden, suggested that I look into this breed about a year ago. This, after getting to know me, she said this is my 'true' breed...the kind of horse I myself am most like. How surreal! So we trotted all over Michigan looking at various horses, learning about fjords here and there and mostly on the internet, getting hooked up with one filly that was for sale in early September only to find out, months later, in December, when it was time to deliver her, that the seller couldn't part with her...it was her first born. I am not saying names here! It was time to look back at my old emails from last summer and I looked again at Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Farm in White Cloud, MI, which is very close to our summer cottage on Lake MI in Pentwater. They had some geldings for sale that were just the right age and size (I really wanted one that would be around 14.2, which is what I was used to). With the horse resources I have, not to mention years of dog training experience with a very difficult breed (the australian cattle dog) I knew that I could train my own horse using my friend's training advice, Cherry Hill's methods and clicker training, which is how my friend Nancy does it. Her horse fetches toys when you throw them for himthat's pretty cool. I was almost fetching a plastic dog dumbell with my old morgan. He knew all sorts of useful things and cute tricks just from my clicker training him. And look how old he was! I have bought Mid's Ibsen from them and he is coming here (well, to the farmer's down the road...where I'll see him at least twice a day) this month, just in time for his three year old summer o' learnin'! So anyway, that's the basics of my story. Hope to write more about our adventures here with the dogs, the art and the new addition. Mary Dixon http://www.marydixondogart.com also: 2nd Chance Cattledogs- The Australian Cattle Dog Rescue of MI Since 1990
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This message is from: sandra church [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone Vivian expressed concern over her to-be-imported fjords and just today this information was sent through The Horse newsletter. The procedure and requirements for handling horses imported into the US from countries with FMD (foot mouth disease) is explained at this website: http://www.thehorse.com/news/index031601_fmd.html Gail's mention of the Santa Fe outfitter was timely for me. This weekend, our local Powhatan Riding Association is meeting at my home and the guest speaker will demonstrate how to pack a horse. Of course, my Loki will be used since he's more dependable than the rest of my equines. Hopefully, he won't startle too many of the club members because anytime he greets a new person, he sticks his nose in their face for a long sniff. Then if he likes the person, he sticks out his tongue from the side of his mouth and wants you to stroke it. That's the first thing he did to me when I answered his for sale ad and I'm curious if anyone else's fjord does this. For anyone near Richmond, Va. there's a Introduction to Carriage Driving clinic on Sunday, March 25th from 10am to 2:30pm at the Deep Run Hunt Club Showgrounds at Manakin-Sabot. The demonstrations include: obstacle course driving, driving attire appropriate turnout, training, safety, choosing a suitable driving horse. There is no charge but bring a pot luck dish. For more info, contac Dot Ruqus at 804-556-4486 or Cheryl Childress at 804-784-0001. Last year, there were several fjords there. Too bad Loki doesn't have his harness or cart yet. Happy trailsSandra in Va. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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This message is from: Eileen Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all, I just wanted to post a quick intro to the group. I'm interested in Fjords after having visited several farms, and became totally smitten. My equestrian interests are trail riding, dressage, jumping and recently, driving. I compete in dressage on two Appy sport horses (Appy-TB english types) and have started teaching one of them to drive. But I'm beginning to realize that it would be *really* nice to have a seasoned, road-safe campaigner to help teach me to drive (so if anyone knows of such a find...) I am interested in talking to others about ridden dressage on Fjords, if certain lineages have more 'dressage' movement than others, etc. Looking forward to the list discussions! Eileen in sunny eastern WA
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] greetings Les and Margaret welcome to the list and hope you enjoy our many faceted topics. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: LHCarriage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi my name is Les D. Hoagland and I have been lurking for about 2 1/2 years... Well Les, it's about time! Welcome!! Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords Carson City, NV _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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This message is from: carol j makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] LHCarriage wrote: This message is from: LHCarriage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi my name is Les D. Hoagland and I have been lurking for about 2 1/2 year Hi Les, Welcome to the active part of the list. Don't go back into lurking. Join in on our wicked sense of humor. You sound like you have a lot to offer for those of us new to driving and such. -- Built FJORD tough Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
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This message is from: LHCarriage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi my name is Les D. Hoagland and I have been lurking for about 2 1/2 year because I don't know much about computers. My family, Mother ( 89 ) Wife Margaret ( 64 ) and I ( 57 ) live about 65 miles south of the Oregon border. We have four horses (28 yr.'s)Appy , (17 yr.'s) Standardbred mare, (8 yr.'s) Appy gelding and of course our 5 yr. old Fjord bred mare.I am a semi retired professional horse drawn carriage owner/operator which I've done for over 28 year mostly in So. Cal. We still have a beautiful white Vis-a-Via , which we still use a lot for weddings. Also other carts buggies and horse related things. I have driven ever thing from single, pair, to a four in hand. My wife is a Special-Ed school teacher and hopes to retire in 3 yr.'s. Our main interests with our Fjords will be driving in the mountain and parades. Also enjoying raising cute little fur creatures. I have met a few of the wonderful listers and hope to meet many more. I have learned a lot off the list and will back into the lurk and stop being windy. Les Margaret H. Callahan,Ca
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This message is from: Diana Calder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, February 05, 2001, 12:59:31 PM, Jean Gayle wrote: JG Hello Diana and welcome. Sounds like you did a great job of JG finding the right horse for you. or is it for your Dad? You may JG have some problems there and that is why you can not stop with JG just one fjord! Jean I've already figured that one out! The Fjord-fund is slowly growing again, though the cart harness last fall set it back again. It'll probably be a year or two before I start looking for another fjord, but I do eventually want at least a team! At the moment, though, it's just as well that we just have one since it gives us more time and attention to spend on him - and he sure does soak it all up! The time that we've spent with Donnie definitely shows - he'll follow either my dad or myself just about anywhere (You want me to climb that gravel pile and stand on top?!? Sure, if you do first! - Want me to go through that narrow doorway and make a right-angle turn halfway through? Sure, if you go first! - Want to pony me beside the bike you're riding? Sure! - Want me to stick my head in the house's door and tell Diana to come out and play? Sure!). (And yes, my dad does actually bring Donnie right up the sidewalk, open the door, and let Donnie stand with his head inside so he can look up the stairs to the kitchen and nicker for me to come see him! The only catch is that he has to keep a good grip on Donnie so that he doesn't decide to come right on in!) -- Best regards, Dianamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Diana and welcome. Sounds like you did a great job of finding the right horse for you. or is it for your Dad? You may have some problems there and that is why you can not stop with just one fjord!Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Diana Calder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I've been lurking on the list since way back around June 2000, so I guess now's as good a time as any to finally introduce myself. My name's Diana Calder, I'm from southwestern Ontario, I'm 31, and I have one Fjord gelding, Donnie. I bought Steinacker's Donnie from the Bosomworth's at Deere Country Fjords as a yearling in May of 2000, after spending a LOT of time researching several breeds and even more time saving up money (one doesn't tend to have much to spare when repaying student loans :P ). It had been (quite) a few years since I last had a horse, and neither of the two I'd had were trained to drive. The Shetland pony that I'd had before those was, however, and I'd had more fun with her than with either of the two horses. I considered getting a Shetland again, but Shetlands like the one I had (sturdy, stubborn, clever, but sweet when they want to be) are very hard to find. Most Shetlands now seem to be of the fine-boned, high-strung variety. I'd loved the Morgan that I had as well, but again he was the quiet, calm type and any that I looked at were much more high-strung. Well, that is, he was calm and quiet after we'd had him for a year or so - the 14-year-old horse that got loose and took 8 people, including his former owner, nearly two hours to catch on the day that he was delivered (if I hadn't already handed over the cheque, he probably would have gone straight back in the trailer when we DID finally catch him!) ended up a big sook who, if you dropped the reins on his neck, would walk up the sidewalk to bang on the door with his nose till my mom would bring him a cookie. He had definitely had some less-than-gentle handling in the past, but once he figured out that he could trust us, he was a great horse (but unfortunately one with a number of health problems, also unknown when we purchased him). The 16-year-old 3/4 Arab mare that I had after him cured me of any romantic teenage notions about an Arab being the perfect horse for me (she'd work up a sweat before you even got in the saddle, and she didn't have a walk, only a bone-jarring jog that led straight into an even more bone-jarring trot). I've never been a better than mediocre rider, and as the only rider in the family, riding alone wasn't much fun, so I was more interested in a driving horse/pony this time around, though one that would be large enough for me to ride as well would be kind of nice. I didn't want anything too tall - 15 hands was the absolute limit for height (this ruled out one other breed I'd considered, Canadians, since in spite of what the breed standard says (14 - 16 hands), I couldn't seem to find any under 15.2 or 16 hands, and many were over 16 hands!), since I didn't want to need a step-stool to mount. Kind, gentle, good-natured - all these were traits that appealed to me. I had also had enough of older horses - I didn't want to inherit someone else's problems, either health- or behaviour-related, this time around. So I researched three breeds that I'd heard good things about (Bashkirs, Icelandics, and Fjords). All three were quite expensive compared to other horse prices in my area, particularly since most of them seemed to be priced in U.S. funds, and it quickly became obvious that I wasn't just looking for a younger animal, I would be looking at a weanling or yearling, or else saving up for three or four more years. I narrowed my choices down to Icelandic or Fjord, then finally - and mostly based on geography (I couldn't find ANY Icelandics listed in Ontario) and price - just Fjord. Some of the breeders on the list may even recall me e-mailing them early in 2000 to inquire about horses available and pricing. Just as an aside, a couple of things that I observed while Fjord-shopping: first, everyone would be much better served by listing at least ballpark prices on their sites when they list stock for sale, as it quickly became obvious to me that my definition of reasonable prices and the definition that others used were vastly different - I could have a TEAM of registered, fully-trained Haflingers, or Welshes, or a mixed-breed team plus harness locally for less than the price of a single Fjord - I don't want to open up a can of worms over what a reasonable price is or isn't, just state that I would have been far more prepared for the prices if people had indicated them up front, and certainly it would have saved some time for everyone involved if I'd known how far out of the range of possibility most of these horses were for me; second, that it looks like, as is the case with some other breeds such as the Canadian horse, the Fjords are being bred increasingly taller (it would be interesting to see the average height over the years, but I was originally looking for a Fjord on the low end of the breed average and couldn't find ANY less than 14 or 14.2 hands, and I've only seen two or three listed for sale since then, while there've been plenty of 14 to 15+
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This message is from: linda hickam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome LauraYOU ARE SO CUTE! -- From: Laura Grimwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Intro Date: Thu, Dec 21, 2000, 6:27 PM This message is from: Laura Grimwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! I just signed up with the Fjordhorse Digest, so I guess I should introduce myself! My name is Laura and I'm only 13 years old. I live somewhere in some desert in AZ. I've been riding for 2 1/2 years and I do Hunter/Jumpers 2'6 for competitions, but jump 2'9 and 3' often in my lessons. I also volunteer at a therapeutic riding association where I'm working with a 10 year old Fjord gelding name Calypso. He's really stubborn, but once you challenge him he's super smart. Oh, and he's a VERY big pig. He's 1,154 lbs and stands around 14 or 14.2 hh. I really want to train him how to jump or do dressage or something more interesting then flat work with him. Mostly flatwork though. I have to go now, but I'll write more later! Laura
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This message is from: Laura Grimwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! I just signed up with the Fjordhorse Digest, so I guess I should introduce myself! My name is Laura and I'm only 13 years old. I live somewhere in some desert in AZ. I've been riding for 2 1/2 years and I do Hunter/Jumpers 2'6 for competitions, but jump 2'9 and 3' often in my lessons. I also volunteer at a therapeutic riding association where I'm working with a 10 year old Fjord gelding name Calypso. He's really stubborn, but once you challenge him he's super smart. Oh, and he's a VERY big pig. He's 1,154 lbs and stands around 14 or 14.2 hh. I really want to train him how to jump or do dressage or something more interesting then flat work with him. Mostly flatwork though. I have to go now, but I'll write more later! Laura
intro from lady who won raffle of Fjord weanling at Turlock
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, All, (and I apologize for the length) I am now known as the Woman who Won Raffle Fjord at Turlock..but that is ok.it is a way to identify me. Around here I am known as The Vet's Wife, or Boss (I don't live in the office anymore), or one of the Beadgang, or Mom, or Carole works well, too...even a hey, you! Yes, my husband is an equine veterinarian with his own 3-doctor practice, so I have been interested in seeing what people in other parts of the country do for Scratches, and any other type of veterinary question. I LOVE the training questions, and I am actually enjoying the posts regarding the white on Fjords (I'm also a nutcase when it comes to rulesI LOVE rules!).it all is pertinent and interesting to read. The Fjord humor stories are also a great read!!! I also have a mule, so I have humor stories on her, too, which is better than crying in frustration. I hope that I may contribute an occasional worthy posting. I am supposed to be introducing myself.. I grew up on a farm in the central San Joaquin Valley in California. I have always been a little horse crazy, which, much to my parents chagrin, I never outgrewand here I am now married to an equine veterinarian..yes, I made sure he was a good one before I married him I started out riding by the seat of my pants with the cowboys in the feedlot my parents had, along with all the row crops..then, after college I discovered dressage, and bought my first English horse in 1984. (I'm starting to date myself!) Prior life wasn't working, so got rid of him, and vowed I'd get it right the second time...which I did, and I now have a really supportive husband, and 2 great children, now aged 9 and 10, a boy (Pokemon fiend), and a daughter (my Mother's revenge, she is getting seriously horse crazy now!). Anyway, there was a bit of a dry spell, (regarding the horses), while I had my children, plus my husband starting up his own practice, and now I am getting back a little bit of a life of my own, finally! My husband has discovered cutting is his passion, and we both have cutting horses, with his QH cutting mare having had a foal this year. I have a 17hh warmblood that we raised (shipped semen, the whole bit) that I ride dressage with, as I do my mule, too, but in a Western saddle for her. The old TB grey mare is bred again to a QH. My daughter has a Paint, my son an Appaloosa. I picked up a garage sale horse this summer, a Standardbred mare, for driving. And, of course, we have our little new fellow, Nattman, our winning prize from the Hold Your Horses Raffle drawing held at the Turlock Scandifest Horse Show Needless to say, we collect horses the way that small animal vets collect cats!!! I still think I'm forgetting one or two. Among the other joys of horses, and I do love dressage, but I have just this year discovered that my true passion is driving..(I am co-leasing a schoolmaster driving horse with a friend of mine, too!) Nattman is going to be, hopefully, an all-around fellow.CDE's with me, Pleasure Driving Shows, Pony Club with the kids (in 4 years), trail rides to the hills, dressage, Scandifest Horse Show in Turlock, friend, companion, etc. I have known about Fjords for years, and had always wanted one. We had been buying tickets for this raffle for years, but I had given up any hope of winningI was now simply buying the tickets to help support this worthy group.. .then..I WON I had even told my parents about them, and told them to look them up as they traveled to Norway several years ago!!! Yes, we had the choice of the foal or the money. My husband, bless him, said whatever you want to do, hon.that was it..we went to look at him first (of course!), and it was all overhe was the newest addition to our many-colored herd! Nattman came home yesterday afternoonI picked him up after a ride off-property with my mule..she brayed before he got in the trailer..MOM, what was THATthen home we came. Good boy that he was, he stepped right up into the trailer and home he came. We figured, too, that if we were going to listen to one baby cry all night, may as well make it twoNattman and the QH's filly (Sydney) are now being weaned together. Boy, was he calm about the whole eventwatched the filly make a fool of herself, and expend WAY too much energy, running around and aroundand look at the FOOD, why bother running??? And THEN, he proceeded to lie down and thoroughly roll around in this LITTLE BITTY spot of mud He is going to be quite the character! His back is not as long as some I have seen..nice neck, goes well into the chest..nice depth of rear-end going into back legs..nice legs and feet...cute as a button headand those EYES!!! He's a cutie all
Re: intro from lady who won raffle of Fjord weanling at Turlock
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/8/00 7:33:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have known about Fjords for years, and had always wanted one. We had been buying tickets for this raffle for years, but I had given up any hope of winningI was now simply buying the tickets to help support this worthy group.. .then..I WON I had even told my parents about them, and told them to look them up as they traveled to Norway several years ago!!! Congratulations! I am very happy for you and for Nattman also. It sounds like the baby found a perfect match in this raffle. Pamela
Re: 2 rookies place at first show! and intro...
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Jack / [EMAIL PROTECTED] : By the way, They say that people look like their pets, I think only one person had a crew cut, I'm afraid to say any more : ) Your new barn manager (Super Duper Pooper Scooper) Jack ^..^ Gee Jack, are you politely trying to say some of us resemble the amplitude that our air fern horses exhibit? Hm... Karen _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: 2 rookies place at first show! and intro...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/2/00 9:58:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jack, it was really a pleasure meeting you, Thank you so much for your kind messege, The feeling is mutual. I felt very much welcomed and a part of everything. Being accepted so quickly was such a surprise. I had no idea what a great family I was going to become a part of. By the way, They say that people look like their pets, I think only one person had a crew cut, I'm afraid to say any more : ) we look forward to next year. Your new barn manager (Super Duper Pooper Scooper) Jack ^..^
Re: 2 rookies place at first show! and intro...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/2/00 9:07:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jack, my sweetie, don't forget your spell check! The CAMARADERIE Wow, am I ever embarr(ass)ed, I thought any mis spelled words would be ed ited. I guess I had butter do it me self next Hour, I mean minuet, oops, oh yea, time. ^..^
Re: 2 rookies place at first show! and intro...
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack, it was really a pleasure meeting you, and am so happy Brigid you enjoyed yourself so much at your first-ever show. You were a total crack-up at our potluck dinner meeting. Thanks for piping up and volunteering.I am really looking for ward to next year's Turlock show knowing that we will have so many cool people coming back and pitching in to help - and we also have a comedian on staff! Cheers, Karen _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: 2 rookies place at first show! and intro...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/2/00 4:40:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I must add that the comarodity was superb, as everyone there was a pleasure to be around. I still don't know how it happened, but, I will be the new Barn Manager for next years show. Thanks for listening to my story, I was just bursting out with pride. I know you all understand : ) Your friend, and rookie for the year, Jack Jack, my sweetie, don't forget your spell check! The CAMARADERIE is incredible among Fjord folks. You became barn manager because you have a cheerful, fun-loving, helpful attitude, kinda like a Fjord : ) I can't imagine a better community of people. On that note, I had my first DRIVING lesson this weekend. What fun! At Turlock, I helpd Kacey Ashley and Trond of Santa Rosa, CA, in the ride-to-drive class. They placed 2nd. In appreciation, Kacey insisted I have a free driving lesson, so I took her up on the offer. Fortunately for me Trond is a champion horse and gives 5 lessons a week to small children. Very forgiving and steady! Now I have a new discipline to pursue... Brigid
Re: 2 rookies place at first show! and intro...
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack and Brigid, congratulations. How wonderful for the four of you. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: 2 rookies place at first show! and intro...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/2/00 4:40:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My name is Jack Long and I live in the San Francisco bay area. Actually in Redwood City. This is my first attempt to write to this list, as I have Just gone to my first Fjord show, and am dying to share my experience with someone. Hi Jack! Nice meeting you. Sounds like you've got the fever! There's nothing like a fjord is there? I know I'll never go back to a regular horse after having these horses in my life. The others just don't do it for me anymore. And a big Congratulations on yours and Brigid's placing in the show. Pamela
2 rookies place at first show! and intro...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/1/00 9:56:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Welcome to the fjordhorse mailing list! Hi there, My name is Jack Long and I live in the San Francisco bay area. Actually in Redwood City. This is my first attempt to write to this list, as I have Just gone to my first Fjord show, and am dying to share my experience with someone. I need to enlighten you as to how I got aquatinted with these magnificent animals known as Norwegian Fjords. I work for a young woman, who of course is a member of this list, and who introduced me to her two Fjords. I owned a quarter horse about thirty years ago, so I was a little knowledgeable about horses. However, when I met her two horses, (Tommas and Rafael) I was totally blown away. Having one horse is a lot of work, She (Brigid) had two, and no one to help her. She worked full time all day, seven days a week, and still found time to travel 45 min. (one way, to Half moon Bay, on the coast) and take care of them. To make a long story short, I offered my help in return for the privilege of riding one of these magnificent horses. That was approx. 16 months ago. It may help to know that she didn't even own a saddle, she rode bare back. We then went out and bought two saddles, and not knowing that these horses never were ridden before, I jumped on one, and a new relationship began. I coached her (as best I could) and the two of us managed to break these horses into riding. She heard about the Skandifest (In Turlock Ca.) last year, and went to see what it was all about without her horses. She returned full of stories, and an undying desire to return this year and bring her horses. I agreed to help her as best I could. We arrived at the fair grounds in Turlock about noon the first day (Fri) and I was in utter awe. There were Fjords everywhere. I felt like tourist minus the many cameras I wished I had dangling around my neck. I encourage anyone with a Fjord, or interested in them, to make the trip. After it was all done and said, Brigid and I both took a ribbon. She a 6th place in western pleasure, and a 6th place ribbon for me in trail. We were ecstatic To say the least. Especially knowing that neither us or the horses ever had any type of formal training. I must add that the comarodity was superb, as everyone there was a pleasure to be around. I still don't know how it happened, but, I will be the new Barn Manager for next years show. Thanks for listening to my story, I was just bursting out with pride. I know you all understand : ) Your friend, and rookie for the year, Jack
Re: intro..bits
This message is from: Alison Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could use input on what kind of riding and driving equipment to use (bits,etc.) while working with them now to give me the best control and best results without having a negative effect on the horses. Personal favorite bit for problem work... The reversible mouth elbow bit. Six possible ways to use it, not including curb chain options. You can be really evil, or have the equivalent of a mullen mouth snaffle. I have on occasion worked Fj though the levels, starting with harsh and moving reins as he went well. Other side, I have headed out and switched to harsh. Saved his mouth from too much pulling in the process. If you were feeling particularity ambitious, you could use it like a phlegm with double reins. What I actually use on a daily basis... A german silver loose ring french link bit. the silver is a bit heavier (noticeable for the solid weegian), and promotes salivation. the loose rings keep the solid little guy from locking on, and the link does too. The link also eliminates the nutcracker effect, which hurts him because of his low pallet. Hey, never underestimate the power of a horse's brain. I have a set of big spurs, a flash, a set of draw reins, and my elbow bit all to work through problems (not all at the same time!!). All I have to do is put one of these things on, and Fj realizes that he is in trouble, and smartens up. one ride does it, usually. No more problem, no real punishment needed. However, if you do this and then use something as a precaution (say a show), you will get an annoyed pony going hey, what did I do? I was good, what's with the flash/spurrs/bit ect.
Tinkerbell intro and personal info recommendations
This message is from: Doug Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tinkerbell is here! Hi Everyone! I'll attempt to keep my intro short as I want to share a bunch of other info with you this time. I adore all of those hooved fuzzies we commonly call horses; I believe they always deserve more than they get simply on account of their essence. (no, not that kind! Do you really think I'd talk like that first time on the Digest!?) Regarding relationship(which I've noticed life is all about: I find I'm always in some kind of relationship with something) horses have such an awesome amount of wisdom-and joy- they offer to share with us in relationship(there it is again!) to this, our lives. Due to this adoration of mine, I currently find myself in a position called trainer(by the people, anyway) at Knutsen Fjord Farm. Owned by Peg and Doug Knutsen, we have Fjords coming out of our ears here. Ok, so there are only 3-well 4; I saw #4(who will have a real name in about 7 months)with the ultrasound. So I hope you catch my drift, I find the find Fjords particularily delightful and that goes for their people, too. Show me your horse and I will tell you what kind of person you are.(old English proverb, I'm pretty sure) So, in reply to those of you hunting for good info, what I would like to do is share with you a list of some of my favorite books, et c. They have become favorites because I find the information correct, comprehensive and well written(easy to read-I don't want to decipher languages, I want to spend time kissing my horse!) The Body Language of Horses by Tom Ainslie and Bonnie Ledbetter For anyone who has anything to do with horses. The Man Who Listens To Horses by Monty Roberts Same as above. I was deeply moved by his autobiography. Incl. in book is language of horses he calls Equus. Website: montyrroberts.com Breaking and Training the Driving Horse and Drive On! by Doris Ganton Excellent. Probably good review for the exp. driver, too. Commonsense Horsemanship by Littauer If you sit a horse's back, read this. I put off looking at this for years because of it's tome-like appearance. It's because it is so incredibly full of well organized, easy-to-locate information without getting lost in what does not necessarily apply to you right now. The Complete Training of Horse and Rider by Alois Podhajsky As complete and marvellous as Com. Horsemanship, but with direction for collection in later training: this is the method used at the Spanish Riding School in Vienna. Horses are Made to Be Horses by Franz Mairinger Holds a very special place in my heart. Is the method of the Spanish Riding School presented from Franz's point of view which is full of a wonderful sense of respect and sensitivity for the horse. The Art of Horsemanship by Xenophon An oldie but a goodie. Training Your Horse to Show by Neale Haley Just that. Preparing horse and rider physically and mentally, show etiquette. Very handy and helpful. Basic Equitation by Cmdt. Jean Licart A gem. Good pictures, tells what, how, and why. I stress that, because when I discovered it ages ago, it was the first book that did. Thrilled me to pieces. Centered Riding by Sally Swift If you sit a horse, read this one too. Superb for hunting up fun solutions for specific technical(or emotional!) difficulties. Think Harmony With Horses by Tom Dorrance Deserves to be gilded. He conveys the feeling of the magic that can be. He shows us how, and it's real easy. The Complete Herbal Handbook for Farm and Stable by Juliette De Bairacli I hold in extremely high regard. I have remedied some nasties that those used to doing the drug routine would freak at with the knowledge and wisdom in here. Everything we need is in our own back yard. The Complete Horseshoeing Guide by Robert F. Wiseman If your horse has hooves, add this to your library. Any books by Margaret Cabell Self Hers are anectdotal, practical and fun to read. To find these: Some are common enough to find in your library, The Book Stable, Inc., 5326 Tomahawk Trail, Fort Wayne, IN 46804, has a high quality selection, and Chamisa Ridge- www.chamisaridge.com-has an illumined selection of books, herbs, gifts and those kind of cool things. Of course try your tack and book stores, too. These are a few of my favorite things. I did my best to address the various subjects I recall (correctly?) some of you seeking info on. I'll stop myself here (there are so many great sources of help and info available now it is easy to ramble on), but I'm more than happy to recommend more, or help you locate a particular one. Hope this helps! Ingrid Ivic, Tinkerbell rides a Friesian. In fact, she is my business partner and helps me train baby stallions, et cetera(every thing else that needs doing on a farm)... Please bear with me as I express a few other ideas I felt I needed to at this time? One: A reminder I really wonder if any of you need: There is so much info out there, I
Re: Intro, EasyBoots
This message is from: Northhorse [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-05-14 14:49:29 EDT, you write: Hi! I guess we ought to introduce ourselves before I comment. We are Becky Vorpagel and Robert Thilsted in Monmouth, Oregon. We have five Fjords at the moment, including a wonderful older mare, our stallion, Sleipner, and three fillies, one started, one starting, and one waiting to be started. We love them dearly. Good information on the easy boots. I'm glad to see someone else from Oregon on this list. We're just outside of Portland. The way I got interested in Fjords is at the Washington County Fair. Every year, I'd go to the Fjord exhibit, enchanted by these animals, wishing for one, but thinking they were out of my reach. I could have stayed there all day, but my son would get bored within 15 minutes, and pull me away, on to something else. I always wandered back before we went home. Do you know who it is who puts on those exhibits? I would love to thank them for sharing their fjords, and giving me the opportunity of discovering this, my now favorite, breed of horse. Pamela
Intro, EasyBoots
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Information Architecture) Hi! I guess we ought to introduce ourselves before I comment. We are Becky Vorpagel and Robert Thilsted in Monmouth, Oregon. We have five Fjords at the moment, including a wonderful older mare, our stallion, Sleipner, and three fillies, one started, one starting, and one waiting to be started. We love them dearly. I've been tempted to comment on much on the list, but seldom have time and usually feel someone else knows better than I. However, I can comment on the EasyBoots as we have used them quite a bit. First of all, we have found that Fjords do need to be shod, and while some of them have hard hooves, a lot of this is myth -- if you ride them a lot, they need shod. Some, especially it seems to me the Dutch bred ones, have very low soles, so even if their hooves are hard, the sole is close to the ground where it can easily come in contact with rocks, etc. Also, I've noticed that many are not straight over their hooves (their knees, fetlocks, and pasterns are not perfectly straight) and need to be shod just because of soundness concerns. And I must say, since we live in a wet part of Oregon, our horses' hooves tend to be soft and thus are a bit more sensitive. And we live on a mile of gravel road and lots of gravelled and dirt logging roads around. In any event, we keep our riding horses shod in front year round, and use Easy Boots behind. I am not an especial fan of the boots -- we jokingly call them not so easy boots, but they do work, are cheaper than shoeing, and I would rather leave the horse barefoot if I could. Our older mare takes a 1 in front and a 0 behind, the just started filly takes a 0 in front and a 00 behind. Fit them as tight as possible -- contrary to the PR, they do come off. We tie little fluorescent marking tape flags on our boots to see them easily when they come off (paint doesn't stick) and we have just ordered some red ones, which the firm puts out once a year around hunting time. You can order them direct from the firm, for $36 each, but you can get regular black ones from Jeffers for $29 each. The EasyCare company makes an ankle bracelet for the boot so you don't loose it, but that seems dangerous to me so I don't use them. They are tricky to put on, and take some time, especially until they stretch out to fit the particular foot. We mark ours so that the left hind is always the left hind and if we're using them regularly, reserve a pair for one horse. Horses can be a bit sensitive to them at first, and I would just take one for a long trail ride without lunging it or otherwise acclimating it to the boots some. They can interfere with their footing a little, but are certainly better for the horse on gravel. The traction on them is not so good on mud or on grass (slick, wet type grass) and we've just purchased some studs from the firm designed to help with this. Can let you know if they work. Overall, if you're riding your horse a lot on such surfaces, I would say to shoe the horse. For the occasional ride on rough terrain or where you get a lot of pulled shoes in the winter from mud or whatever, they're helpful and worth the hassle. Incidentally, endurance riders tend to glue them on, so they don't have the same problems with losing boots. Happy Fjording! Becky Vorpagel
reply to the Trupiano's intro
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) Duane and Nancy, That's a neat story about the two of you and your family. If you just rode off into the sunset now on your Fjords, it would be complete. (You know you'd both get called back for emergencies though! : ) One question though; When you met, did you each know that the other's favorite childhood song was Old McDonald Had A Farm? Either that or there must have been a DooLittle somewhere in one of your backgrounds! Just kidding! Actually, I guess you guys are about par for the course for a pair of vets. Nice to meet you and have you on the List! Any more vets out there? Brian and Barbara Jacobsen Salisbury, North Carolina P.S. We work for a husband and wife veterinary team. What do you think about that Mike?! ;-) _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: reply to the Trupiano's intro
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:24 AM 5/11/98 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Amy K. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well I already knew that actually ;-) You told me about that before. I really didn't realize there were so many husband/wife vets around. I suppose it makes sense though, I am sure most of you met in college or something like that. Mike, you're right. I think many vet couples pair off in school because in vet school you don't have time for many outside interests and you both have at least one big common goal, which is to make it through school! For example, in our graduating class of 80, six couples ended up getting married (though 2 couples are now divorced). Probably the same thing happens in other professions, such as human medicine and law. You know how adversity sometimes brings people together, like when they think they are not going to survive a terrible ordeal (a la Christie Brinkley and the ski lift incident in which she met one of her former husbands)? There's probably an element of that at work, too! :) Hello Trupianos and Jacobsens! Makes a lot of sense I guess. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry http://www.nfhr.com Mike May, Registrar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 ===
Re: reply to the Trupiano's intro
This message is from: Amy K. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:13 AM 5/11/98 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:09 PM 5/10/98 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) P.S. We work for a husband and wife veterinary team. What do you think about that Mike?! ;-) Well I already knew that actually ;-) You told me about that before. I really didn't realize there were so many husband/wife vets around. I suppose it makes sense though, I am sure most of you met in college or something like that. Mike, you're right. I think many vet couples pair off in school because in vet school you don't have time for many outside interests and you both have at least one big common goal, which is to make it through school! For example, in our graduating class of 80, six couples ended up getting married (though 2 couples are now divorced). Probably the same thing happens in other professions, such as human medicine and law. You know how adversity sometimes brings people together, like when they think they are not going to survive a terrible ordeal (a la Christie Brinkley and the ski lift incident in which she met one of her former husbands)? There's probably an element of that at work, too! :) Hello Trupianos and Jacobsens! Amy White
Re: reply to the Trupiano's intro
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:09 PM 5/10/98 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) P.S. We work for a husband and wife veterinary team. What do you think about that Mike?! ;-) Well I already knew that actually ;-) You told me about that before. I really didn't realize there were so many husband/wife vets around. I suppose it makes sense though, I am sure most of you met in college or something like that. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry http://www.nfhr.com Mike May, Registrar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 ===
Re: Intro to the list
This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm flattered! Although I'm a little perplexed about the time-line. I got Nansy in the fall of 1986, but didn't get involved with rec.equestrian right away. More like 1989, as best I can recall You're probably right, although I could have sworn I was still in school. I graduated in 1988. No matter... There are at least 3 Fjord owners nearby who've told me that it's all my fault. ;-) Well, me too. Put another notch in your belt :-) Lori
Re: Intro from an old timer.
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glad to see that you joined us, Nancy! Nancy was the one who sold me my two most-bragged-upon Fjords---Nansy and Sleepy, a.k.a Trondleif. And, she's the person I'd go back to if I ever needed another one! Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. ---
Re: Intro from an old timer.
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:02 PM 5/4/98 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Nancy Lehnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone! My name is Nancy Lehnert, sometimes better known as Nancy's Fjord Horses! I am new to the mailing list but have been reading the E-mails for a few days and love the conversations. It is wonderful! I've been an equine enthusiast all my life and have raised horses since 1964. Hi Nancy! Glad to see you made it to the list. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry http://www.nfhr.com Mike May, Registrar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 ===
Intro from an old timer.
This message is from: Nancy Lehnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone! My name is Nancy Lehnert, sometimes better known as Nancy's Fjord Horses! I am new to the mailing list but have been reading the E-mails for a few days and love the conversations. It is wonderful! I've been an equine enthusiast all my life and have raised horses since 1964. I was introduced to the wonderful world of the Fjords when I met my late husband, Jim Clow in 1974 and they have been a part of my life ever since! Lucky me! Guess that makes me one of the old timers of this breed in the States?! Lou Thiesen and I joined up about eight years ago and his work enhances the operation with his horsemanship as well as his carriage building abilities. Just ask Dave McWethy about the quality of his Thiesen Carriage. Lou was asked to be the driving clinician for the Kansas Equifest in Feb. That's where we met Steve McIlree and Cynthia Madden who were kind enough to drive Tank for the demos. Needless to say, Tank was wonderful to work with and stole the show!!! Note to Brian Jacobson: I enjoyed meeting your folks when they were still in Colorado and we were back from Wyoming for a visit. Jim had purchased his first Fjord mare in 1964 from Art and Betty Pfister in Aspen, CO when Jim still lived in Old Snowmass. I am glad you have carried on your father's good work of breeding the Fjord horses and I appreciate your imput to this mailing list. Jim and I lived in Buffalo, Wyoming bordering the Purdy Ranch. Gene Bauer bought many of Bob Purdy's horses. I met Gene in Montana when he was visiting David Parker who had imported the stallion Ask ( a son of Grabb). I was standing the stallion King Gjestar whom Gene had raised. That was one of the first Fjord Horse Playdays in the country. We are so fortunate to have so many more shows, fairs, exhibitions and evaluations now. One of the other historic Firsts was the 1984 Fjord Gathering in Hood River, Oregon. Jon Hegdal, who was head of the Norgesfjordhestlag, visited for the event. Fjord owners from Canada, Washington, Wyoming, Alaska, Idaho, and Oregon came and many with horses. Everyone demonstrated something with their horses-- riding, packing, driving, plowing etc. None of us had seen so many Fjords in one place together before! It was wonderful. I still get the awe struck feeling when seeing the horses at shows today. Traveling to the Fjord shows in Norway and The Netherlands, was a very good learning experience for me. Paying close attention to the judging of hundreds of Fjord horses gives one a better eye to judge horses. What helped the most was being able to speak with the judges and breeders in The Netherlands and ask questions about the pedigrees as well as the faults or strong points of the horses. I imported horses from The Netherlands in 1987 hoping to add to the gene pool in the States. The stallion Glengard (a Bjorgard son) was one of those. He sired the mare NFH Dokka who achieved a First Place Blue ribbon for conformation and movement at the NFHR Evaluation. ( The day after being evaluated, Dokka didn't show well at halter because she was so worried about an upset foal she knew outside the ring that she didn't want to stand like a statue pony. Yes, she has a very strong mothering instinct! ) As Carol R. says, there isn't the perfect horse and even in this mare, there was still room for improvement. So I asked David Klove, a Norwegian Judge, who saw the mare, what I should look for in the stallion I would breed to her. He told me she needed one with more bone, better movement in the front legs and a little bit shorter back. That's what I went looking for. Having noted bloodlines from Norway I admired, I next purchased a Ramstad son MVF Ravel out of Froya. Both sire and dam had been evaluated by the Norwegian judges and received good marks. I next had a very competent Equine Vet assess the young stallion for the standard teeth and testicles but more stringently for conformation and movement since no evaluations were going on at that time. Ravel was next unofficially evaluated and approved by Jon Hegdal when Jon was with the film crew documenting the Fjords in the USA. The response of Heather Mason, an AHSA r-rated judge, (who also raises Warmbloods and competes at Dressage shows at Grand Prix level) after having seen a video of Ravel in motion stated I love his movement! As far as Evaluations go, I believe in them whole heartedly! I believe that a stallion's value is not just in what he is, but more importantly, in his potency to produce offspring as good or better than he himself or the mares he breeds. Bob VanBon once told me that a very good stallion in Holland was gelded because his offspring were not of good quality. One of Ravel's two year old fillies placed First in a large halter class at Libby, Montana last year. The nick between Dokka and Ravel had worked well... The filly had inherited her sire's good front legs and movement! What is
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This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone! New list member here! Thanks to Steve for inviting me to join, I had no idea we had such a list. Now for my intro. I became interested in Fjords back in 1986 or 87. Marsha Jo Hannah had just recently bought Nansy and was posting to rec.equestrian about her (Nansy's) wonderful qualities. I was intrigued. Here was a compact, hardy, thrifty, smart, trainable, kind, loaded-with-character, all-around type of horse. I searched for more info -- not much was available -- but at some point I found a picture of a Fjord. It was BEE-YOU-TEA-FULL, and I was sold. I'd been riding (in Pony Club, 3-day eventing, and some hunter-jumper) since I was a kid, and had always wanted to be a horse breeder, and at that point I knew what kind of horse I wanted to breed. It took me the intervening years to buy a farm, build a house, barn, fences, etc. and to get ready. Last year, through Carol Rivoire, I purchased two of the yearling fillies Carol imported from Holland, as well as a Dutch-import mare who is in foal to Gjest. I am one happy girl!!! My Fjords are the two year-olds Rjelgrimm (Myrstein x Carla (sire Oswald)) and Roza (Fjelljon x Lisa (sire Bjorgard), and Cindy (Ostar x Louise (sire Alfred)). We are located in Southern Ontario, Canada, about 120 kilometres west of Toronto. Our farm name is Bluebird Lane Fjords, as our farm has both many bluebirds and a very long laneway. Well I've perused all the digests and am looking forward to many more interesting conversations on this list. Lori Albrough
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This message is from: FJORDING [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello. My name is Merek Geiger, and the following is brief background of my Fjord, Lars. Lars is an 12-year-old Norwegian Fjord gelding, one of six residing on Long Island, New York. He lives at a large private stable in Deer Park, as I cannot keep a horse in North Merrick where I live. There are four other Fjords out east in suffolk County, and one in the Queens Zoo in New York City. His original home and place of birth is Valhalla Centre, Alberta, Canada. When this is combined with the last name of the family who bred him, the Lees, it gives his full paper name, Valea's Lars. He then was sent to British Columbia, Canada, for training, after which he came to New England and finally to his present home in Long Island about 6 years ago. His most noticeable feature is his six-inch-tall arched and erect mane. Since he is of the brown dun color pattern, he has a FULL dorsal stripe. His mane is three inches wide at the crest-an inch of white, one of brown, and another inch of white. After I form the arch with the clippers, I then use them to cut out pieces of the white hair along the length of the mane so that it has a black-white-black pattern resembling a zebra's mane. Most people think I dye it! He is 14 hands tall. His weight is 1260 pounds, according to our local truck scale. The rest of his features include a white muzzle, white around the eyes, and zebra striping on the knees and hocks. Here on L.I., I march him in parades around the area on many occasions during the year. He also carries me as a Roman soldier in the Westbury Good Friday pageant held each year by St. Brigid's Church. Then there are various appearances at horse shows and events to display the Fjord breed, which many horsepeople have never seen, except in a book. He will be at the Belmont Horse Fair this year .He is borrowed or rented from me for several street fairs and the Long Island Pet Expo in November at the Nassau Colliseum. One of the strangest affairs has to be the time he was used in a Bat Mitzvah in a catering hall. The 13-year-old girl, who had never been on a horse before, was put on him and led through the rear emerency exit of the hall. Wearing a long white dress, as Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz, she was led past all the guests at their tables and across the dance floor to her father. Luckily for the catering hall, Lars never wears horseshoes, as his large, very hard hooves do not need this protection. Finally, his longest event is his yearly stay at the Old Bethpage Restoration Village for their October Festival. He is on display for the entire 2-week event, and may be seen at the stable area or being ridden around the village. This Nassau County facility recreates an American community of the mid 1800's, using actual homes and shops of that period which have been moved from locations around Long island and situated on the grounds as they would have been over a hundred years ago. A cast of people dressed in period clothing performing labors that were common in those days completes the scene. They have various family participation events scheduled throughout most of the year, being closed only during the Winter after the Christmas festivities. After years of procrastination, this year I finally made the big move and bought a horse trailer. With this new freedom from dependence on others for transportation, I hope to have Lars at many more events in the coming years. A short time ago, I took him home to N.Merrick and rode him around the area of my home, causing so considerable surprise to the local residents, who could not believe that a horse could be walking down these residential streets. It will also make it much easier for me to go to the Westbury Street Fair, where I do pony rides each year, and allow me for the first time to begin doing some pony work at children's parties. . If you have any other questions you would like to ask, just send them to me here at:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED], which I use for public inquiries about his services. I will answer them as soon as possible. Thank you and goodbye. Merek
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FjordHorse List-- Hi folks. Please bear with me, I'm new to this list administrator role, and I'm going to need to learn some new skills. I should have the _reply_ problem fixed shortly. Hopefully, there won't be too many rough edges getting this thing started. hello steve! we all are very gratefull that you made this list, so we forgive you the startup problems ;-) First let me welcome all who have already subscribed. I am delighted with the response. In less than 24 hours we have 16 subscribers in 5 countries. Most lists are around much longer before they go international! oh but people with fjordhorses are very sociably people! you have found a gap in the marked ( free translated from an hollands proverb.) greetings! ilona
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FjordHorse List-- Hi folks. Please bear with me, I'm new to this list administrator role, and I'm going to need to learn some new skills. I should have the _reply_ problem fixed shortly. Hopefully, there won't be too many rough edges getting this thing started. First let me welcome all who have already subscribed. I am delighted with the response. In less than 24 hours we have 16 subscribers in 5 countries. Most lists are around much longer before they go international! Let me briefly introduce myself before I go tackle the list config file. I am a male, age 52. Cynthia Madden and myself have one Fjord gelding (that's the word for a castrated stallion) who's coming six years old. He drives and Cynthia is training him in dressage. He's also a good trail horse. His registered name is Hjerte Barn, but we normally call him Tank. We live in Omaha, Nebraska, which puts us just about in the center of the USA. We have 3 other horses; two Morgans and an Anglo-Trakehner. -- Steve McIlree Cynthia Madden -- Pferd, Keyah, Skipper, Tank -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA What a piece of work is a horse! In action how like an angel! In apprehension how like a man! --James Agate(1877-1947)
