Re: welcome
This message is from: Gail Russell > Welcome Jeanine, congratulations from the West Coast as well. I have Ws > Romulus, Odin (not registered, my bad!), and Claylee's Gunthar. I have WS > Romulus. > I was always a fan of Julie Will's horses, and I know Tira's sire, Erlend, quite well, having seen him at Libby and at other Fjord events. I bet she is a nice horse. Gail Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
welcome
This message is from: Don Brown Welcome Jeanine, congratulations on partnering with the most wonderful breed of horses, hope you enjoy as much as we all do. there is a lot of information here, the list has been quieit for awhile, maybe a new member will bring us out of the weeds. love Yvonne Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Welcome Jeanine
This message is from: Krist Martinsen Sorry, but you have the wrong Jeanine! Sounds like fun. We only have one Fjord now and my husband drove him, and a couple of other for many years. Hope you find the right person and good luck with your writing! Jeanine Martinsen Sent from Windows Mail From: Alice MacGillivray Sent: âSaturdayâ, âNovemberâ â7â, â2015 â9â:â29â âAM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Cc: fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com This message is from: Alice MacGillivray Congratulations; so excited for you. A few years ago, I was in very similar shoes and so excited. I hope it is OK to mention that I was talked into writing a book, which ended up with the title âRiding Horseback in Purple.â I have had wonderful feedback from novices as well as more experienced horsewomen and even people who just enjoy animals or good stories. Check it out on Amazon if you think it might help you. This list and Facebook Fjord lists are great resources as well. Alice MacGillivray > > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 12:54:43 -0500 > From: "Jeanine Dell'Orfano" > Subject: Hello, introduction > > This message is from: "Jeanine Dell'Orfano" > Hi everyone, > > I was very happy to find this list. My name is Jeanine and we are counting > down the days until our Fjord comes home. She will be my first... > > Jeanine Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Welcome Jeanine!
This message is from: Krist Martinsen I am sorry, but you have the wrong Jeanine! We have had Fjord horses for 22 years but only have one now as we are way up into our 80s. Jeanine Martinsen Sent from Windows Mail From: Tish Pasqual Sent: âSaturdayâ, âNovemberâ â7â, â2015 â7â:â48â âAM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com This message is from: Tish Pasqual Welcome to the list! The archives are a treasure-trove of information, and please do feel free to ask questions. I have had my Elph for 18 years now (oh my!), mostly living in Minnesota, and having recently moved to San Francisco (Elph is in Woodside on a free lease as a therapy horse). I only get to see him on weekends, as traffic is so awful here that the idea of driving the 30 miles or so is unbearable to even think about during the week. I envy you being able to have your horse right there with you. Where are you located? I'm sure she will enjoy the goats! Tish and Elph in SF and Woodside (paradise for horses!) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
welcome
This message is from: "fofdfjo...@clearwire.net" Hi Jeanine, Welcome to the wonderful world of Fjords and their families. Gayle Ware Field of dreams Eugene, OR www.fjordhorse.com Hi everyone, I was very happy to find this list. My name is Jeanine and we are counting down the days until our Fjord comes home. She will be my first. She is OH Tira and is a 16 yr old mare. She has been living in Oswego and has always been in that area. Bred at Old Hickory. I am new to Fjords and also a beginner to horses. I used to live in Nova Scotia and had a goat farm with many acres of pasture. I used to take in retired, lame and old horses that needed a home and that has been the scope of my horse experience. I am a learning rider. I am looking forward to learning here and meeting you all. We are moving to a farm property and she will be coming home to us the week we move. She will be our only horse just for this winter. She will have many goats but hopefully a Fjord friend in the spring. Jeanine Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Welcome Jeanine
This message is from: Alice MacGillivray Congratulations; so excited for you. A few years ago, I was in very similar shoes and so excited. I hope it is OK to mention that I was talked into writing a book, which ended up with the title “Riding Horseback in Purple.” I have had wonderful feedback from novices as well as more experienced horsewomen and even people who just enjoy animals or good stories. Check it out on Amazon if you think it might help you. This list and Facebook Fjord lists are great resources as well. Alice MacGillivray > > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 12:54:43 -0500 > From: "Jeanine Dell'Orfano" > Subject: Hello, introduction > > This message is from: "Jeanine Dell'Orfano" > Hi everyone, > > I was very happy to find this list. My name is Jeanine and we are counting > down the days until our Fjord comes home. She will be my first... > > Jeanine Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Welcome Jeanine!
This message is from: Tish Pasqual Welcome to the list! The archives are a treasure-trove of information, and please do feel free to ask questions. I have had my Elph for 18 years now (oh my!), mostly living in Minnesota, and having recently moved to San Francisco (Elph is in Woodside on a free lease as a therapy horse). I only get to see him on weekends, as traffic is so awful here that the idea of driving the 30 miles or so is unbearable to even think about during the week. I envy you being able to have your horse right there with you. Where are you located? I'm sure she will enjoy the goats! Tish and Elph in SF and Woodside (paradise for horses!) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Welcome Joann!
This message is from: Bonnie Michelis I have had my fjord since he was a weanling. He is now 15. Keeping weight off this breed is a challenge and I think alot of them are very prone to insulin resistance,. If you go to www.equinemedsurg.com they have alot of great articles for managing horses that gain easily. My boy had laminitis for the first time this past summer even tho he is worked alot. He was still overweight and to diet him I would need to dry lot him and he would have to go long periods without eating to keep weight off, Now I manage him alot different thanks to what I learned at this site. He got the weight off and keeps it off very well by feeding a low starch/high protein pellet and using hay bags. I also use a muzzle. I know he doesn't like it much, but he does accept it. When you introduce it, be sure they aren't very hungry when you put it on at first. Put a small treat in it so they think treat every time you put it on - they don't fight it then. They have to learn to use it by picking it up and placing it straight down on the grass. It doesn't work with very short grass, but my guy will graze the taller stuff this way. Since I changed how I manage him, I am able to offer grass without a muzzle 2 hrs a day without weight gain. I hope I am able to increase that this summer as the quality of grass goes down. Check out this site! My horse is never hungry anymore. You can put a new bag up and he doesn't run to it - doesn't shake his head and acts agitated when other horses are fed anymore either. It made a huge difference for us! bonnie in wi Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: We are new...welcome!
This message is from: Kay Van Natta Hi Jo Anne! If you can find a new place you like that has a couple of dry lots where Emma can spend her outside time, that would be ideal. Then you can control what goes into those busy Fjord lips fairly easily. When she's in her stall, can she see other horses? Maybe that would make her less upset. My Bogie pony came to me at age 14, had spent most of his adult life outside and was pretty suspicious of the stall concept. Since that's where his meals are served and he can see his pasture buddies in their respective stalls, he has bonded with his room...'though he still prefers to be out. Best of luck to you, Emily and Emma! Kay Van Natta Yellow Pony Farm in Michigan Sent from my iPad > On Jan 4, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Jo Anne Wylie wrote: > > This message is from: Jo Anne Wylie > > > We would like to introduce ourselves to you. I am Jo Anne, grandmother to > Emily, age 13, who has had her fjord for a year and a half. Her horse, Emma > came with that name and it has caused a bit of confusion. Emily kept her name > Emma because, when she would arrive at the barn and call her name, she would > look up and come right over to the fence, even when she was busy eating hay! > Emily bought Emma from a lady's small backyard farm, here in Maryland, where > she had bred and raised her for Emma's first three years. She came to us at > least 200 lbs. overweight, and not worked very much, but she has a sweet > disposition and a willingness to work. She is 14-3-1/2 hands and weighs 950 > lbs now. She lost that 200 lbs. the first year with helpful advice from our > barn owner/trainer, and her muscle development and hind-end impulsion has > improved a good bit. Emma is very food oriented, she makes us think she is > hungry all the time. The fields at the barn she is at have no grass, but hay > is always available. > We searched for a group like you because we have an issue we would like some > advice on, and also because we thought it would be fun to follow other fjord > stories. We have not met any other fjord owners in our area. Emily would > like to change barns to one that has more space for her to ride in. Her > current barn has some trails, but not long, and only one small ring, with no > place else to get Emma moving. The barns we have looked at have lovely grass > fields and we worry how to manage her weight and other possible complications > from all her grazing. She does not like being in a stall, unless she is > eating, and we have not tried to keep her in a stall for very long. She > becomes very impatient! She has been field boarded and seems to enjoy her > herd, although she is always the bottom rung. She currently gets hay pellets, > vitamins, and about two teaspoons of Vetra Calm to help diminish her appetite. > We are really afraid she would be frustrated with a grazing muzzle. What have > you experienced with a muzzle? The only thing we have read is that it can > cause fur damage if needed all the time. Do you have any other advice for us. > We certainly do not want the problems that can happen from an overweight > horse! > Thanks for any advice you have, Jo Anne & Emily (written by Gram and Edited > by Emily) > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Welcome Catie
This message is from: Windago Welcome Catie. You will LOVE your fjord. CAUTION: They are VERY addictive!~ Teresa F in MO This message is from: Catie Wells Hello! My name is Catie Wells, and I am a new member of the fjord horse mailing list. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: welcome Deb
This message is from: Nancy Newport Hi Deb, I'm so glad that you connected with the list. You'll find a great network of Fjord folks in Colorado. I live in Berthoud as do several other Fjord enthusiasts. I'm sure you'll hear from Jeanne Poirier as last year we formed the Rocky Mountain Fjord Horse Club and she is our president. We have all kinds of activities. Once a year we have a Fjord Fun Day and people come from all over Colorado and as far away as California (hi Linda). We also participate in the National Western Stock Show (courtesy of Starfire Farm) about every other year. Welcome to the Fjord world! Best, Nancy Newport Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: thanks for welcome
This message is from: Melinda Schumacher Thank you for sharing this wonderful story! Melinda Pittsburgh 48F, cool, sunny and colorful Fall! On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Julie ~ Funny French Cars < i...@funnyfrenchcars.co.nz> wrote: > This message is from: Julie ~ Funny French Cars < > i...@funnyfrenchcars.co.nz> > > Hi julie from NZ here, thanks for the welcome , i have been reading the > digest for a while now and have enjoyed it lots, plus learnt heaps, I have 2 > fjords, both geldings, a 14yo whom i brought into NZ from australia and a > 3yo who was bred in NZ , I wanted to write and share with u all my guys > adventure last weekend, I was out and my husband was home in his shed , I > had left the fjords out to mow the lawn, Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: thanks for welcome
This message is from: Jane Brackett OMG S very funny!!! You gave us a great laugh here in Maine. I can just picture our two Fjords and their side kicks (paint and Appy) doing something similar. Still laughing! Thank you so much for sharing! Jane, in Maine, long way from NZ, where I've ALWAYS wanted to go. ) and found the place was totally trashed, stuff everywhere, like a massive earthquake, he put 2 and 2 together and got 2 fjords getting into the house 2hrs ago, I had baked a banana cake and fresh bread and they had been in plastic bags, well they had rubbed it all onto the carpet trying to get it out of the bags big stains on the Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
thanks for welcome
This message is from: Julie ~ Funny French Cars Hi julie from NZ here, thanks for the welcome , i have been reading the digest for a while now and have enjoyed it lots, plus learnt heaps, I have 2 fjords, both geldings, a 14yo whom i brought into NZ from australia and a 3yo who was bred in NZ , I wanted to write and share with u all my guys adventure last weekend, I was out and my husband was home in his shed , I had left the fjords out to mow the lawn, deane heard the house door slam close around lunchtime and thought nothing of it, a couple of hours later he went back into the house to get his ph ( which was charging) and found the place was totally trashed, stuff everywhere, like a massive earthquake, he put 2 and 2 together and got 2 fjords getting into the house 2hrs ago, I had baked a banana cake and fresh bread and they had been in plastic bags, well they had rubbed it all onto the carpet trying to get it out of the bags big stains on the carpet( wont describe what the bags looked like found one in the sink, yuck,) the fruit bowl, had oranges apples bananas, kiwi fruit, lemons, only 1 lemon survived as it rolled under the furniture, I had dishes on the drying rack they were all on the floor, I had butter out defrosting, it was gone, but had been smeared all over one of the kitchen cupboards first, and these guys are in full molt, i suspect u get the picture hair everywhere, all the fridge magnets on the floor, cell ph chomped but still goes, dvd covers bitten but dvds ok, cover ripped off printer but printer and laptop ok, coffee table tipped over and the only real casualty as its glass top was broken, deane began cleaning up, no sign of the horses, then he heard some banging noises thought oh noand opened the bedroom door to my sons room, which they had shut behind them, and standing over top of tristins new drum set was benji, the young fjord, very happy and not worried or freaked when the door opened, trying out the drums., deane called him and he happily followed him outside, then he came back in to discover thor coming out of the laundry, then wandering into our bedroom, quite at home, apparently he was handreared and quite used to being inside when a foal, deane txted me and said he was running late as he was cleaning up the house after the horses had been thru it, I couldnt stop laughing asked him what on earth was he doing inviting the horses inside. I had had to chase thor away a day earlier when he kept opening the front door, then the next day when i let them out to graze they bet me back to the house and had the door open , so now i,ll have to mow the lawn myself. sorry to go on so long but it was so funny, and our house is quite small and they could of got seriously hurt as we have lots of glass doors, but being fjords they took it in their stride, arent they wonderful and intelligent. look forward to hearing more stories and info cheers julie Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: fjord digest- welcome Julie! Lola
This message is from: laura fisher Hi Lola- I live on the coast in a town called North Bend. Actually they mushed the two towns ( Coos Bay)together and call it Coos bay/ North Bend. The coast is beautiful here even with the old mills sprawled along the river, dead,(the mills) but we have a very nice horse camp about ten minutes from where we live. It is called "Horsefall Camp". I have my days and nights free to horse around and I am very fortunate for that. We moved to a new home and I have an indoor arena. I am so thankful I try to use it every day. My fjord, Elisie, and I have only know each other for about 90 days. ... I have three other horses. In fact my husband and I took a ride on the dunes today. This part of the coast is a big draw for ATV'S but they stay away from the camp. Tomorrow I am going to write to the forum about my experiences today out on the trail. It got pretty hairy there for awhile. I am getting a lot of help from the forum and I am following their suggestions. It is helping me not make quite so many mistakes and bring the knowledge that I do know together. I know this is more information than you asked for. do you live in Oregon? Laura :) > Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:07:01 -0700 > Subject: Re: fjord digest- welcome Julie! > From: lolal...@gmail.com > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > This message is from: Lola Lahr > > Where do you live in Oregon, Laura? > > > > > > _ > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > > > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f > > _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: fjord digest- welcome Julie!
This message is from: Lola Lahr Where do you live in Oregon, Laura? > > _ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: fjord digest- welcome Julie!
This message is from: laura fisher Welcome Julie! I am new to the forum also! You should be expecting many kind people to contact you into the group! New Zealand? I live in Oregon. A friend told me New Zealand resembles Oregon, (and vice versa) USA, where I live . How many Fjords do you have? I have one. A mare. 9 years old. Elisie. Laura :) > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > From: i...@funnyfrenchcars.co.nz > Subject: fjord digest > Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:45:02 +1300 > > This message is from: Julie ~ Funny French Cars > > Hi is this how i post on the digest?? cheers julie from new zealand > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f > > _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Winter Wear and Welcome
This message is from: Robin Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello from Olivia Farm, > > > > For real riding I have a pair of insulated, > full-seat, winter over-pants from State Line Tack. > I have no idea what the cost is (they were a > well-appreciated gift!), but they are super and I am > usually sweating. I have had them for about 6 years > now and they are still looking great since I only > use them to ride. My only issue with them is that > they tend to "pop" open at the sides when I wear > jeans under them, so I switched to winter breeches. > > It's not an issue for me anymore but when it was, I used silk or polypropylene long underwear, polarfleece breeches and when really cold, the pants that Solveig has which are kind of like snow pants with a full seat. Some catalogs also have the smooth on the outside, polarfleece lined breeches but I have not used them. Robin Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winter Wear and Welcome
This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello from Olivia Farm, My favorite winter work pants are the $30 rain-suit variety from Costco. They are super thin and you wouldn't think it would be much difference, but I wouldn't THINK about going outside without them when the temperature is between 10 and -10 around here. They keep out the wind and the wet, as long as it isn't a huge downpour. The only draw back is that they are slick. I did ride bareback in them at a walk and with the western saddle they would probably be fine, but in English tack it might be an issue. For real riding I have a pair of insulated, full-seat, winter over-pants from State Line Tack. I have no idea what the cost is (they were a well-appreciated gift!), but they are super and I am usually sweating. I have had them for about 6 years now and they are still looking great since I only use them to ride. My only issue with them is that they tend to "pop" open at the sides when I wear jeans under them, so I switched to winter breeches. For Laurie (and Oz, even though he won't be out here THIS time) - We hope you can make it by for a visit this summer - that would be great fun! We may even have one of our little cabins finished by then. Keep warm everyone! Solveig Watanabe Olivia Farm www.oliviafarm.com (509) 258-7348 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Welcome back.....
This message is from: "Jeanne Zuker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you Steve for getting the infomation out on the 'missing Fjordhorse List,' I appreciate your efforts on this. I was thinking perhaps everyone was out with their horses and not writing. Again thanks, and happy Fjording to all. Jeanne and Monty ~MI~ it is HOT. Forgot what rain looks or feels like. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: List Donations was Welcome New Subscribers
This message is from: "Debbie Ulrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> LOL...Stevea bunny butt pup...huh? Yes, Corgis are darling and will arrive about June 15th I will for sure send you a donation via Paypal and truly appreciate you being instrumental in this fjord list. Debbie Ulrich Corgi Hill Farm Winona, MN From: "Steve McIlree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debbie Ulrich" the link to the PayPal donation form can be found at the bottom of the message.> Of course YOU could always just send a nice Bunny-butt pup. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
List Donations was Welcome New Subscribers
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debbie-- Friday, May 4, 2007, you wrote: > Can we just send you a check? I'd just as soon not get into that. I don't want to make this into a donation drive like we did in the early years of the list. I will be reposting the Welcome Message around the first of every month, and perhaps a little reminder that the link to the PayPal donation form can be found at the bottom of the message. I really don't want this to be a fund-raising drive, rather something that's always there in case people find the clerk at the grocery store gave them too much change and want to share. ;~) Of course YOU could always just send a nice Bunny-butt pup. -- Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA The difference between a policy and a crusade is that a policy is judged by its results, while a crusade is judged by how good it makes its crusaders feel. --Thomas Sowell The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Re[2]: Welcome New Subscribers
This message is from: "Debbie Ulrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Can we just send you a check? Debbie Ulrich Corgi Hill Farm Winona, MN donation form for the FjordHorse List. Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re[2]: Welcome New Subscribers
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean-- Thursday, May 3, 2007, you wrote: > I clicked on your address, but it came out as undeliverable. Can you > send me your address privately so I can chip in on the costs? In my previous reply I said I didn't know what your problem might be. Another subscriber wrote to me to point out what might be confusing you. I chose to use TinyURL's preview option so people can see that the link really leads to PayPal rather than some evil site designed to steal your credit card information. The idea here is that after reviewing the URL displayed by TinyURL and confirming it is indeed a link to PayPal, you need to click a second time on the link labeled "Proceed to this site.". When you do so your will be taken directly to the PayPal donation form for the FjordHorse List. -- Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA A dog teaches a boy fidelity, perseverance, and to turn around three times before lying down. --Robert Benchley The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re[2]: Welcome New Subscribers
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean-- Thursday, May 3, 2007, you wrote: > I clicked on your address, but it came out as undeliverable. Can you > send me your address privately so I can chip in on the costs? I don't know what the problem might be other than it's not an email address but a link to a Web site. I know it's working because several people have already used it successfully. -- Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary numbers and those who do not. --Bumper Sticker The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Welcome New Subscribers
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve. I clicked on your address, but it came out as undeliverable. Can you send me your address privately so I can chip in on the costs? Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Welcome New Subscribers
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'd like to welcome the bunch of new subscribers who just got on the List. I need to apologize for the length of time some of you have waited to have your subscriptions activated. I pay for the List server in increments of 100 subscribers, and since we have been within a hair's breadth 800 members, I wanted to wait until the annual payment was made before going over the line. May 1 was the due date, and now that we are paid up to 900 subscribers, I was able to go ahead and activate all you new folks. I certainly hope you will find it worth the wait. -- Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Welcome Liann
This message is from: "Jeanne Zuker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What a wonderful introduction of yourself and how you came to have your boys. I am sure your dreams of leisure trail rides and driving into town will come true. The only thing I would caution you about, make sure you buy enough ice cream so 'the boys' can have some. I have found mine like anything I am eating, but love cold treats like snow, those flavored ice sticks and ice cream! :>) Oh, and Monty likes his coffee. Welcome and I know you will have many years together. Jeanne ~MI~ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Welcome to the Fjord List Nina
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's me JO. This is the address I use for my Fjord communications.
Re: Welcome to the Fjord List Nina
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, who is this?
Re: Welcome to the Fjord List Nina
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry about the last message! I didn't realize hitting 'reply' to a response would get the entire fjord list :o Does anybody know Ruthie Bushnell's e-mail? I tried to e-mail her through her website but it came back undeliverable. Thank you, Nina
Re: Welcome to the Fjord List Nina
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sabrina/Nina... Duffers?
Welcome to the Fjord List Nina
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's about time Nina! (Sabrina) I've been trying to get her on the list for over a year. Nina forgot to mention that she is the proud owner of Opal, the dam of our up and coming 4 year old (make sure I got the number right this time) stallion WHR Elsker. Opal made herself priceless to Nina last year, when she gave birth to a beautiful filly and then had to take on a Fjord colt too. She nursed both successfully and brought the colt back from the brink. Condolences to Nina for the recent loss of her first Fjord Kona, We know you loved her a lot. Michele Noonan Stevensville, Mt
Welcome, Dagrun
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Glad to hear you have come to God's over populated Washington State! There are certainly many Fjords up your way and Donida (comes from Don and Ida) is a great outfit. I am down in Aberdeen near the Coast about two hours from Seattle with Gunnar, (Grubb/Guldua (the beautiful)), who is lounging about the place as I no longer ride. Olympia is a good center of Fjords and Ann Appleby has her Fjords just outside Olympia. Must be quite a cultural shock coming to the Coast!!! Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520
Welcome Cathi
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/5/04 7:39:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hello everybodymy name is Cathi, I am new to this list. I have already > enjoyed readying the postings of the weekend! I live in Longview, > Washington. > We also have a farm in PeEll, Washington, well, five miles from PeEll, so > weare pretty remote there. Hi Cathi, Welcome to the Fjord world! We live in Eugene, OR so we are not far from you. We have a boarding and training facility (not just Fjords), but we always have several Fjords here. Stop by for a visit sometime. The Fjords always welcome someone new to schmooze them!! Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR www.fjordhorse.com
EPSM/ welcome to NC Fjord owners/ Fjords on small acrage/ off side mounting..
This message is from: "Jeanne Zuker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> EPSM stands for "Equine Polysaccharid Storage Myopathy" I think I have the spelling correct. I just put EPSM in my Yahoo search and came up with a wonderful list of info written by Dr Beth Valentine, DVM,Phd. for Rural Heritage. Welcome to the Hardin's of NC and their Fjord. Are you located anywhere near Asheboro, my brothers' family live there and love the mountains and state, they are trying to get me to move to NC since I retired a couple years ago. For Nancy, I have an acre of land for house, barn, small pasture/paddock, dog kennel and yard--whew! It can be done. I love having Olaf "home" so I can take care of him, I am fortunate that the area I live in is rural and I have neighbors who have horses, so I do have access to trails (off road), two neighbors have indoors that I can use and my local requirements allow me to have a horse an a small amount of land. Please feel free to email me privately if you would like more info. I would love to have more land, but I moved here before I got Olaf and I know that more land would be more ideal, but Olaf is not lacking for anything. I do have another horse here for the next 6 mos., helping someone out, both horses are doing great on the land and with each other. I have been mounting "off side" on Olaf since I went to a seminar and was told there is nothing wrong with it, you should be working both sides of the horse on ground work and turns so this just takes it to the next step. I will tell you at first it was extremely awkward for me and thankfully Olaf was good and just stood there probably thinking I was crazy. I would highly recommend having someone hold your horse or at least be standing by the first few times you do this. It does feel awkward but to tell you the truth, I feel stronger mounting from the "off side" and if you do it in "public" some people will give you some very odd looks or make a comment. Just remember to use your right foot or, well you get the picture.LOL It is fall, the colors are changing, the bugs are leaving, the days are cooler and the riding is wonderful, I am so sorry for all of you who have had to suffer through fires, drought, floods, hurricanes and other acts of Mother Nature this summer. Jeanne in MI (not the hurricane)
Welcome to the list, Bindy!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Bindy - When I saw your post, and that you were in Arvada, had to send out a big welcome! I've been on the list for several years - but not until now, have I had the good fortune of a Fjord of my own. Loki comes home on June 8th - 13 more days, and counting! I live in north eastern Aurora, off I-70 just west of Watkins - that's about 25 minutes from Arvada! "...I am a relatively 'new' Fjord owner and have definately discovered the joy of being involved with this breed. I first fell in love with Fjords 5-6 years ago..." That's about the same here - about the same time I first learned of Fjords and dreamed of one in my pasture.:-) Do you have a pic of Axel you'd care to share? Would love to see him! Happy trails, Sher Olson, Aurora CO http://RockyMountainTrails.net/Book.html "Rocky Mountain Trails, Vol.1" 60 trails in of the urban, prairie, foothills and mountains in the central corridor of Colorado - Ft. Collins to Colorado Springs. For the one hour or all day rider. Plus Bed & Breakfasts for you & your horse. Binder format.
Welcome Cliff
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/28/03 1:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > First time poster here. > My name is Cliff and I'm in Oregon. I've had horses for 10 years but for > the past 2 years I have had only one. My 3+ yr old Fjord gelding of the > draftier type. Gotta love the breed. Hi Cliff, Where in Oregon do you live? Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR www.fjordhorse.com
Welcome to list
This message is from: Holly Tuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Susan, I just wanted to welcome you to the list. I am a lurker but find the information given out is great. I am learning just through reading. I have one grey dun fjord that will be turning four in 2004. She has riding and driving experience but I have just done ground work with her because I felt she was too young. I am going to be taking a Equine Studies Course in Saskatchewan, Canada, possibly in January and will be taking my PMU foal from 2001 a QH/Fjord cross. Any way I ramble, sure hope you enjoy the list. Holly from Manitoba, Canada > I've been lurking on the list for a few weeks and am finally ready to write. I have a wonderful 11 year old fjord mare, Princess Erika that I've owned for a year and a half.
Welcome to California
This message is from: "Les D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, we are welcoming Tim's Grabbson to our ranch in Northern California. He left on Friday after the sale with some people who live in Clovis California and we will pick him up on Friday this week. He made the trip very well and the lay over will rest him. The price ( $2000 ) was incorrect but was close. We are looking for some great things from him. I spent some time with Tim on Saturday and got to learn more about Grabbson ( he was driven and I hope to get him back in harness ) . Tim is a very nice man and knows a lot about the breed. All I can say is thank you. Les & Margaret H. Callahan,Ca
Welcome Back Lisa!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey Lisa! It's good to have you back, we've missed you. (And those silly things you say!! LOL) I do believe the DOA in the stock tank in CO was a BAT and not a poor Fjord. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: welcome Nancy
This message is from: Nancy Newport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Welcome to the list, Nancy, from another Nancy in Florida. We're in Gainesville. Nancy Newport Gainesville, Florida Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Welcome to my hometown
Welcome to my hometown
This message is from: kathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Welcome Amy
This message is from: Holly Tuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Welcome Amy, This is a great list for learning things. Holly from Manitoba > Hello all, > My name is Amy Ebbert. > Amy __ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca
Welcome Susan from Narnia!
This message is from: "SueFreivald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I do hope that, unlike the Susan from Lewis's Narnian Chronicles, you remain a friend of Narnia! I love the Chronicles and have read them aloud at the dinner table several times over the years of growing children. Welcome to the List! You will find a truly marvelous group of knowledgeable, generous folk. I sure have. My name is similar to yours -- Sue -- and I am from Rivendell :~)! I have ridden most of my life -- just back yard stuff, and am now riding and driving my first Fjord. They are truly remarkable as a breed and delightful as individuals. They require more quiet persistence and understanding than other breeds I believe -- make awesome, thoughtful partners. But no anthropormorphizing here -- still horses! Enjoy. They are worth what they cost. I always remember that it costs just as much if not more, to keep a mediocre or unsuitable horse as it does to keep the right one. I live on the other side of the (world) state, in upstate New York -- and it is less costly to keep a horse here, than in the City> God Bless and good luck. Sue Freivald.
Welcome Jeanne
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all - My apologies ahead of time for posting this on the digest, but my message was bounced back when I tried to send this privately. "Hi Jeanne- I don't think we have what you are interested in, unless you want to raise the little guy yourself. However, you might enjoy visiting our web site, listed below. There are lots of Fjord folks in Michigan, including one of our judges, Karen Maas - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, try the Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry web site - www.NFHR.com . Good luck and welcome to "Fjord madness..." I think you'll love the breed!" Also, Gayle, I didn't know you were putting out a calendar too. I must have missed that info when we picked up our email in Mexico. Way cool! I haven't even started on ours yet. Regarding Libby next year - our Show Comm will meet for the first time on Dec 8. I have asked Anne Appleby whether there is interest in having an Eval there next year, but haven't heard back yet. It's really a big job, so if you are interested in another Eval, please let me know privately as soon as possible - perhaps we could find enough folks who would be willing to make it happen. The dates for the show will be Sept 13-15, 2002, to coincide with Libby Nordicfest. Bye for now - Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/ Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Welcome Valerie!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valerie: Welcome to our Fjord Community! I know you'll just love your new Fjord - everyone does. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Welcome and congrats
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all - I want to welcome Judy to the sunny side of the mountains in Washington. The Northern Lights are wonderful here! Judy, I hope you come to visit all of us Ellensburg folks who have Fjords. And many congratulations to the folks who did so well in driving and at Turlock! Wish we could have come, but it's too soon after Libby for us. Anyway, His Majesty [AKA Erlend] is down in Oregon having more of his vital bodily fluids frozen. Br! Bye for now - Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
re:thanks for warm welcome
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, I just wanted to say thanks for your warm welcome and all the great advice about blanketing for winter. I feel a lot better about being able to take care of my Buddy. Hope everyone has a great time in Libby and Turlock. Maybe I can get there nect year. Thanks for the invite! Sharon & Buddy in So. Cal. (riverside) GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Welcome Message
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I guess it's about time to send out the "Welcome Message" again. If everyone would stash this away somewhere they would always have the Web site URL's handy so they could pass them on to new subscribers. -- Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List ===== Welcome to FjordHorse Mailing List === PLEASE SAVE THIS MESSAGE === It contains information you will need later on. FjordHorse List is an open forum dedicated to the discussion of all subjects relating to the Norwegian Fjord horse. The primary subject of the list is the Fjord horse, but the list is open to the discussion of any related equine issue. Typical subjects may include selection, breeding, care, training, and use of Fjord horses. Personal experiences, discussions of training techniques, good advice and pleasant conversation are always welcome here. View the list as an opportunity to sit around the kitchen table with friends and discuss Fjord horses over a pot of good coffee. Even if you intend to mostly lurk on this list, please introduce yourself when you first subscribe. It's fun for everyone to know everyone else on the list. Tell the rest of us about yourself and your horses. Where do you live? How many horses do you have? What activities do you enjoy with your horse? And whatever else you think the folks sitting around the virtual kitchen table would like to know. And when you do decide to post to the list, please include something in your signature block so other folks know what part of the world you're from. To send a message to the list address it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that even if you subscribe to the FjordHorse Digest, your messages to the list should be directed to the address above. If you reply to a message on the list and your email program copies the original message into your reply, please use your block and delete functions to limit that quotation to only a sentence or two that will establish the context to which you are replying. It is especially important for subscribers to the Digest to eliminate the copy of the entire digest from their replies. Announcements of competitions and clinics, and "for sale" or "wanted" advertisements relating to horses and equipment are welcome. Unrelated commercial ads, chain letters and virus warnings should be kept to yourself. Flaming will not be tolerated. Advertising of items for sale on the list should be limited to brief sales lists to be repeated no more often than once a month. For example, if one has five horses for sale, they may post a list of all five horses, containing their name, breeding, sex, size, age, price and a *brief* description of training or suitability. If a prospective buyer wants more detail about a specific horse they may contact the seller by private e-mail. The same policy will hold for the advertising of harness, tack, vehicles, feeds, books or any other goods appropriate for sale on the list. Remember that people DO take comments personally--that's what makes it fun to be with them. Before posting an angry response, sleep on it. Go ahead and write it up before you forget what you want to say, but don't hit the send button until the next day. Then reread what you have written as if it were directed toward you. If you wouldn't be hurt go ahead and send it. Otherwise you might want to reword your message. Discussion and disagreement are accepted on this list, derision is not. Please DO NOT send pictures or HTML formatted messages to the list. Many people have mail programs that are not capable of viewing them and they come through like a mass of garbage characters. Be aware, that any messages you send to the list that are not formatted as plain ASCII text will be filtered out by the list server and sent to the list owner for reformatting. This may cause long delays in your messages reaching the list. Online archives for the FjordHorse List are available at http://www.eScribe.com/pets/fjordhorse/. The user name is "fjordhorse" and the password is "fjords_rule". At this Web site you can access everything that has been discussed on the list since its inception in March, 1998. At this same site you will find a bulletin board and chat room available to FjordHorse List subscribers using the same user name and password. There is a companion web site for the mailing list at http://www.fjordhorselist.com. There you can find FAQs on netquette, links to interesting Web sites, and easy subscription forms. Subscription/unsubscription/info requests should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Requests are sent in the body of a message and look something like: subscribe fjordhorse unsubscribe fjordhorse info fjordhorse help Any questions concerning the FjordHorse List or the FjordHorse Digest should be directed to [EMA
Welcome Saskia and Little Ben!
This message is from: "Patryjak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Saskia, Welcome to the list. Good for you for seeing more in Little Ben than what the wrangler said. A lot of folks here have talked about the 13th Warrior, but I have not been able to find it. I think your Little Ben may be famous...at least here! How old are you? (We have also been collecting ages.) I think at last count the youngest here was 14 or 15 and the oldest , 75? Let us know more about you and Ben...eventing...hmmm...too wild for me. Don't jump over that big stuff anymore. Betsy in Michigan
Re: New Welcome Message
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> welcome storme, it sounds like an awful lot of food to me. why was he losing weight? is he up to date on his worming? as i recall there are some listers near seattle. you might contact them and pow-wow, even go out and visit their places and discuss what is and is'nt the proper weight for a fjord. if i fed mine that much, he would be a toad with fur in short order. JOT, denise > This message is from: Storme Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am a new Fjord owner, I purchased Jordan in late August and am still > learning stuff everyday about the breed. I am so thankful for this list.. receiving 3 flakes of grass in the evening and 16 oz. of feed > in the am and the pm plus a scoop of supplement. The feed and > supplement is 'Dynamite'..
Re: New Welcome Message
This message is from: Storme Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hello~~ I am a new Fjord owner, I purchased Jordan in late August and am still learning stuff everyday about the breed. I am so thankful for this list. My question is this. I just moved barns, he was on 30 acres and receiving 2 flakes of grass in the evening, plus LMF Supersupplements..he is now on a 1 acre paddock, receiving 3 flakes of grass in the evening and 16 oz. of feed in the am and the pm plus a scoop of supplement. The feed and supplement is 'Dynamite'. We had to change things one because of the move and two he lost a little too much weight the last 3 weeks at my old barn. He needs to put on a little weight and when he reaches his ideal he will go back down to having feed only once a day. Is this ok? I have heard so many stories and am worried that it might be too much feed Does anyone on this list use a brand called 'Dynamite'? I have seen many horses on it and they are beautiful and healthy---one at my new barn is a 35 year old leopard spot Appy---she/he is the one in the 'Easy boot' Ads and looks like she/he is 18---20 years old, she/he still gets ridden. I live in the Seattle area, my barn is in Kent.also he was used to coming in at night at my old barn, but now is outside 24/7.he seems fine with it. Any insights would help me greatly. Thank you Storme Lee
New Welcome Message
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As part of my New Year house keeping for the List, I've edited the old "Welcome Message" which is sent to all new subscribers. Since it contains information that is useful to everyone, I thought I'd send it out to the entire list. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA What a piece of work is a horse! In action how like an angel! In apprehension how like a man! --James Agate(1877-1947) ==Welcome Message Follows=== Welcome to FjordHorse Mailing List === PLEASE SAVE THIS MESSAGE === It contains information you will need later on. FjordHorse List is an open forum dedicated to the discussion of all subjects relating to the Norwegian Fjord horse. The primary subject of the list is the Fjord horse, but the list is open to the discussion of any related equine issue. Typical subjects may include selection, breeding, care, training, and use of Fjord horses. Personal experiences, discussions of training techniques, good advice and pleasant conversation are always welcome here. View the list as an opportunity to sit around the kitchen table with friends and discuss Fjord horses over a pot of good coffee. Even if you intend to mostly lurk on this list, please introduce yourself when you first subscribe. It's fun for everyone to know everyone else on the list. Tell the rest of us about yourself and your horses. Where do you live? How many horses do you have? What activities do you enjoy with your horse? And whatever else you think the folks sitting around the virtual kitchen table would like to know. And when you do decide to post to the list, please include something in your signature block so other folks know what part of the world you're from. To send a message to the list address it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that even if you subscribe to the FjordHorse Digest, your messages to the list should be directed to the address above. If you reply to a message on the list and your email program copies the original message into your reply, please use your block and delete functions to limit that quotation to only a sentence or two that will establish the context to which you are replying. It is especially important for subscribers to the Digest to eliminate the copy of the entire digest from their replies. Announcements of competitions and clinics, and "for sale" or "wanted" advertisements relating to horses and equipment are welcome. Unrelated commercial ads, chain letters and virus warnings should be kept to yourself. Flaming will not be tolerated. Advertising of items for sale on the list should be limited to brief sales lists to be repeated no more often than once a month. For example, if one has five horses for sale, they may post a list of all five horses, containing their name, breeding, sex, size, age, price and a *brief* description of training or suitability. If a prospective buyer wants more detail about a specific horse they may contact the seller by private e-mail. The same policy will hold for the advertising of harness, tack, vehicles, feeds, books or any other goods appropriate for sale on the list. Remember that people DO take comments personally--that's what makes it fun to be with them. Before posting an angry response, sleep on it. Go ahead and write it up before you forget what you want to say, but don't hit the send button until the next day. Then reread what you have written as if it were directed toward you. If you wouldn't be hurt go ahead and send it. Otherwise you might want to reword your message. Discussion and disagreement are accepted on this list, derision is not. Please DO NOT send pictures or HTML formatted messages to the list. Many people have mail programs that are mot capable of viewing them and they come through like a mass of garbage characters. Be aware, that any messages you send to the list that are not formatted as plain ASCII text will be filtered out by the list server and sent to the list owner for reformatting. This may cause long delays in your messages reaching the list. Online archives for the FjordHorse List are available at http://www.eScribe.com/pets/fjordhorse/. The user name is "fjordhorse" and the password is "fjords_rule". At this Web site you can access everything that has been discussed on the list since its inception in March, 1998. At this same site you will find a bulletin board and chat room available to FjordHorse List subscribers using the same user name and password. Subscription/unsubscription/info requests should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Requests are sent in the body of a message and look something like: subscribe fjordhorse subscribe fjordhorse-digest unsubscribe fjordhorse unsubscribe fjordhorse-digest info fjordhorse info fjordhorse-digest help Any questions concerning the Fjord
Re: Welcome
This message is from: "SUSAN L GIARGIARI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Welcome Astrid! I have a brother to your Marius! I am going to check your picture out after I write this. I am very curious to check him out as the brother, LLA Hilmar, that I have is a Toddy son and also an Oswin Grandson! Hilmar's dam, Dena, is an Oswin daughter. What is the pedigree of your boy! My husband, Richard, had seen a picture of Toddy in the Dutch Book and said he wanted to breed our mare, Stella 1 to him someday. Little did we know that the two horses that we rescued, each 250 pounds under weight, one of them was a Toddy son! We found out after we had them for awhile, and vet checked. They were healthy, just needed groceries. Lots of loving, too, to get them back to herd behavior and trust that they could interact with other horses again. Dena was a basket case for the first two years, and now, she goes everywhere, does Kid's camp at Penfrydd Farm, has done Equitana USA and Equine Affaire. She can have her foal taken away so she can work for a few hours and knows that it is OK and doesn't flip out any more. She is awesome. Hilmar too, finally had his day in September when we participated in the Dutch Keuring held over here. He got a 3rd premium and an A in the Agriculture ABOP, a B in the Driving and a not so good D in the riding. He was supposed to be worked with in the riding, but it didn't get done. He did get 9's for tempermant and behavior in the tests! This was great for him, as alot of people think he is "crazy" , as we brought him out in public when he still had alot of behavior issues to do with being away from all horses and across the aisle from his mom, constantly coming into heat and not having any contact with another horse. We use him now to babysit the weanlings every year. Right now he has our weanling, Vimark, who is by Hilmar, out of Stella 1. If all the mares are bred, he can run with them for the winter. He is low man on the totem pole then! He has the most beautiful color and big, gorgeous eyes! He is a very dark, butterscotch. It is not just a dark brown. He also is the sweetest boy. He will never try to hurt anyone, even when he thinks he needs to maybe get to a mare in heat! He throws this temperment in his offspring, also. One of his daughters got a 1st Premium at the Keuring and a son got a B Premium. Another daughter got an A Premium. We were very pleased. Well, I am going to check out your pictures! Glad to have you aboard on the list! Sue g.
Welcome Mary Ann
This message is from: Cathy Koshman <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Mary Ann - welcome to the newsgroup - I grew up just down the road from you in Beaverlodge (at last - someone who will know where that is) - God's country - still miss the winters with the northern lights and all those stars above the huge expanses of snow. The fjords must look wonderful there. Do invite our Canadian artist, Betty McNaught out to your place for a sketching trip - would be wonderful to have her do a fjord. Her horse paintings are her best. I've heard that there is quite a large herd of fjords around Valhalla - do you know anything about them? Anyway - welcome. Cathy Koshman Misty Meadows B&B and Fjords, Victoria, BC
Welcome and Congratulations Carole!
This message is from: "Patryjak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carole, Welcome and congratulations on your wonderful prize! Sounds like he'll have great fun with you and the gang...kids, horses, mule... Enjoyed your intro. A question for you...you wrote "then, after college I discovered dressage, and bought my first "English" horse in 1984. (I'm starting to date myself!) Prior life wasn't working, so got rid of "him", and vowed I'd get it right the second time.." Hope this isn't too personal but,which "him" did you get rid of? The horse or the spouse or both? :) (Some folks get it right the first time, I did better the second!) Betsy in Boggy, Soggy, gray & cold Michigan.
Re: Welcome
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/3/00 9:16:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Good idea Gayle. I must be very tasty, because I'm always the #1 target of insects. You want to take me camping -- all the mosquitos will swarm into MY tent! Perhaps next year we can sell prosthetic horse tails for people, so we can swat the flies off eachother... >> Hey, what happened to the "spell check" on "EACH OTHER"? Eh,eh,eh, ^..^" j
Re: Welcome
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/3/00 7:32:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Jack, may I make a suggestion when you assume your position as barn manager for next year's show?? Would you please feed the flies before everyone arrives? They seemed very hungry this year! LOL! >> Good idea Gayle. I must be very tasty, because I'm always the #1 target of insects. You want to take me camping -- all the mosquitos will swarm into MY tent! Perhaps next year we can sell prosthetic horse tails for people, so we can swat the flies off eachother... Brigid
Welcome
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/2/00 4:43:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << After it was all done and said, Brigid and I both took a ribbon. She a 6th place in western pleasure, and a 6th place ribbon for me in trail. We were ecstatic To say the least. Especially knowing that neither us or the horses ever had any type of formal training. I must add that the comarodity was superb, as everyone there was a pleasure to be around. I still don't know how it happened, but, I will be the new "Barn Manager" for next years show. Thanks for listening to my story, I was just bursting out with pride. I know you all understand : ) Your friend, and rookie for the year, Jack >> Jack & Brigid, Welcome to the 'wonderful world of Fjording'. Thanks for filling in your 'background'. When we officially met Jack at Turlock, he tagged himself a stand up comic. I'd like to correct that statement - now you're sit down (on a horse) comic!! Jack, may I make a suggestion when you assume your position as barn manager for next year's show?? Would you please feed the flies before everyone arrives? They seemed very hungry this year! LOL! Will look forward to seeing all four of you after the first of the year!! Thomas and Rafael will be coming to stay with us for a while with intermittent visits from Jack and Brigid. Once again - WELCOME! Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR www.fjordhorse.com
Welcome Jane
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It is lovely to see that so many "Fjord people" have remembered > that it is the taking part that counts, and if you win something then > that's nice, but only if you had fun doing it. > Anyway its feed time now and my Yak (yes he sill grows a major > overkill coat)is demanding his tea. > Bye for now Rocky and Jane Hello Jane and welcome to the list! I loved reading your introduction post...sounds like the 1/4 part of Rocky that is Fjord loves to eat well and he's growing that incredible coat too. Keep posting... All the best, Ingrid in Ohio
Welcome Cheryl
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> My name is Cheryl and I live in Fremont, CA
> Ive had horses growing up, and trained one from breaking to ride, to cart
> driving (What an experience). Ive wanted a fjord for the last 10 years and I
> am finally going to get one.
Hi Cheryl...welcome to the List!
There are many terrific people on this List willing to help. It's a good
place to come with questions. Some are professional breeders, others are long
time owners and some are just beginning the "fjord experience". All have
plenty of wonderful stories to tell!
Here's wishing you the best in your quest for the perfect fjord for
you.
(...say that 5 times fast...LOL!!) ;o)
Ingrid in Ohio
http://www.geocities.com/fullmoonfjords/
Flying Fjord and welcome Hostar colt!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, Nice to hear all the new foal news. MVF Neschild had a Hostar colt and I put his picture up for viewing. ( www.norwegianfjordhorses.com) She is a 2nd premium from Norway, A Rossar daughter who was a 1st premium stallion by Grabb. Will be nice to see if he gets the same momement as MH Tatiana who is out of a Grabb daughter. Brian, I know you follow Grabb offspring, I have a photo of Tatiana ( A Hostar filly by a Grabb Daughter on the sale page of our web site) She actually floats about a foot off the ground. We call her the flying fjord. She is 2 now and still floats. The picture shows her a foot off the ground all four feet. I have a series of photos and they are all that way. Amazing match for movement. MH Verde( we go for the opera themes at Mink Hollow) the new colt is related so should be fun to see! Carllientje a Holunder daughter had a beautiful Hostar Filly Vonneke. Happy Mothers day to all you new fjordie moms. Laura of the Hollow
Welcome Bonnie!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let me be the first to welcome you to the list, Bonnie! I sure enjoyed meeting you at the Midwest Horse Fair in Madison, WI. You were such a help! Thanks again! Perhaps one day soon I'll take a drive up to Manitowoc and visit you and Patti-I'd like to see Bergen and I'm anxious to see Patti's Uljer(sp?).Joni :)
Welcome
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Welcome from me too, Jennifer. I love reading about the excitement and adventures that follow getting one's first Fjord. You and your hubbie have some great times ahead! Torrin must be the son of MVF Erlend, our grey stallion that we bought from Julie Will last year. I'd love to see any pictures you take of Torrin. If you have a scanner, you can copy and email them. If not, I'd be happy to return photos. I'd like to make another page featuring Erlend's progeny for our web site, plus a picture album to take to shows, etc. Very happy Fjording to you! Peg Knutsen, Knutsen Fjord Farm http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Re: Sue Glenister - welcome!
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Welcome Sue!!! I wish I knew the history of the people responsible for the beautiful names of cities and areas of the British Isles. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: Sue Glenister - welcome!
This message is from: "David Stewart, Registrar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message- From: Susan Glenister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: 11 February 2000 15:26 Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #48 >This message is from: "Susan Glenister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sue, Nice to see you are now part of the "gang". As I've said before the list is a must for everyone interested in the breed, so don't be afraid to ask questions! With good wishes, David >Hi everyone, >I'm new to the list, although I feel that I know most of you as my friend >Fiona Nicholson had been sending mail onto me before I got my own p.c >I live in England on the south coast and own four fjord's.Lisette a Danish >imported mare, Girda and Erik both out of Lisette and by my stallion Froy. >Sue Glenister >Havenlodge Fjords >England > >
Re: Welcome Mat is here.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Denise, Nobody could'ave Dun it better! I really enjoyed your ideas. Tami
Re: Welcome Mat is here.
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tami; how about; been there, DUN that you should'nt a DUN that DUN all over DUN again DUN of a gun denise
Re: Welcome Mat is here.
This message is from: Joanna Crell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Our very best friends are named the Dunleavey's, quite a large lovely family that all ride with us. When we go out for a meal together its a right riot, and at evenings end they'll say, "The Dunleavey's are dun gone!" they have started a camp for children with CP and other challenges, naturally our fjords are a most important ingredient! a local house is named Dun Roamin (Rohmin) just thought I'd pipe up. Joanna in wind whipped Mt Desert Isle At 12:27 AM 1/19/00 EST, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Thank you very much Amy, >Catherine sent us a list and you were on it too. We are still trying to >figure out our itenerary, we will call if we can make it to your place and >make an appointment. I love the name of your place. We bred our QH mare to >a Hollywood Dun It son whose name is I'm glad I'm dun. And we're looking for >a cute name for the foal with a "Dun" in it. I hope we can make it, we just >have one Fjord so far, and we still have a lot of learning to do, and I think >that it helps to get all the exposure we can. >Thanks,Tami > > === Joanna Crell - David Folger Willowind Therapeutic Horseback Riding Center Phone & FAX (207) 288-9506
Re: Welcome Mat is here.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you very much Amy, Catherine sent us a list and you were on it too. We are still trying to figure out our itenerary, we will call if we can make it to your place and make an appointment. I love the name of your place. We bred our QH mare to a Hollywood Dun It son whose name is I'm glad I'm dun. And we're looking for a cute name for the foal with a "Dun" in it. I hope we can make it, we just have one Fjord so far, and we still have a lot of learning to do, and I think that it helps to get all the exposure we can. Thanks,Tami
Welcome Mat is here.
This message is from: Evers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> << Anybody in the northern California or southern Oregon area that wouldn't mind visitors who are just starting in Fjords let me know. We will be in that area for the last week of January. Tami >> Tami, We are a little north of Bend. You are welcome here. Always have a cup of ?? ready& lots of Fjord chat and information. Tillie Bud, Tillie & Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589 "Speak yer mind, but ride a fast horse."
Welcome Karen Lambert, FL.
This message is from: "Betsy Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Karen and Group, Yes, the fjords are wonderful Pony Club equine. My daughter is loving her beginning jumping classes, stable management, mock fox hunts, game days et. al. Her fjord is 13.3h and loves to jump more than she is willing at this time. I'll forward to you, Karen, a picture and some information about where to find that special fjord. Wanta' Chat with Fjord Buyers & Breeders? Thursday evenings, 6 pm, pst. at: www.fjordpony.com Betsy Bauer
Re: No List Today and a "welcome to topica" ? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Susan you are on the list. Just not much discussion. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: No List Today and a "welcome to topica" ? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This message is from: "Carl & Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> i think we are still on the list as we are supposed to be i got both your messages. not getting much, just a few here and there. perhaps it's the holidays! Sarah Nagel in Northern Idaho -Original Message- From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Cc: SUSAN L GIARGIARI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 5:57 PM Subject: Re: No List Today and a "welcome to topica" ? ! >This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Susan, > >I got that confusing message too, but also some other messages from the >"Mystery" Fjord list!(do you get the digest?) so I presume we're still OK >on "Mystery"! > >Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, +10 degrees and light snow, we gained 2 minutes >daylight today! > >~At 08:24 PM 12/27/1999 -0500, you wrote: >>This message is from: "SUSAN L GIARGIARI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>I just got a welcome notice from topica saying I was now on their mailing >>list and that that is where I need to write to get the list. What's up? I >>thought this was the new list address and i got the "goodbye, disconnect" >>from topica the same day i got the welcome from angus.mystery. I didn't get >>anything from the list today. WWAhh!!! please help! >>Sue G. >> >> >> >> > >Jean Ernest >Fairbanks, Alaska >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: No List Today and a "welcome to topica" ? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Susan, I got that confusing message too, but also some other messages from the "Mystery" Fjord list!(do you get the digest?) so I presume we're still OK on "Mystery"! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, +10 degrees and light snow, we gained 2 minutes daylight today! ~At 08:24 PM 12/27/1999 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: "SUSAN L GIARGIARI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I just got a welcome notice from topica saying I was now on their mailing >list and that that is where I need to write to get the list. What's up? I >thought this was the new list address and i got the "goodbye, disconnect" >from topica the same day i got the welcome from angus.mystery. I didn't get >anything from the list today. WWAhh!!! please help! >Sue G. > > > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No List Today and a "welcome to topica" ? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This message is from: "SUSAN L GIARGIARI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just got a welcome notice from topica saying I was now on their mailing list and that that is where I need to write to get the list. What's up? I thought this was the new list address and i got the "goodbye, disconnect" from topica the same day i got the welcome from angus.mystery. I didn't get anything from the list today. WWAhh!!! please help! Sue G.
Re: Eqvalan (Welcome to the New List)
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thanks brian for all the med info. and also the goat tip. denise - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 7:38 PM Subject: Re: Eqvalan (Welcome to the New List) > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Jean, in regards to your request for a veterinary comment, you wrote: > > >The Eqvalan is specifically labled for oral use , but the Ivomec is > labled for injection. >However the Merck Factory rep said they were > identical. I quess you should verify this >for yourself somehow and not > take my word for it! :) > > First, so that no one mistakes Jean's intent, realize that the Ivomec is > labeled for injection in CATTLE, not horses. For a short time the > injectable was available for horses, but after a few horses died from > Clostridial infections at the injection site, the company discontinued > it. Also, there is an Ivomec injectable for swine that is a different > strength than the cattle product. > > I have actually never bothered to ask if the Ivomec injectable was > exactly the same as the Eqvalan oral formula. I had just assumed > (dangerous to do) that since they were labeled for different species, > they were slightly different. I will say, though, that a veterinarian is > putting him/herself on slightly shaky ground if they sell a non-labeled > product for a horse (Ivomec) when there is an effective and available > product that is labeled for horses (Eqvalan), even if the contents are > exactly the same. > > So that everyone knows what paste wormer we are talking about replacing, > the active ingredient in Eqvalan is the same as what's in Zimectrin, > Equimectrin, and Rotectin I. > > >I thought it might be more of a hassle to administer the liquid instead > of the paste, but it >actually was easier, as I squirted it in with a 12 > CC plastic syringe without a needle and >they made no attempt to spit it > out. > > I agree. As long as you are careful, using the liquid is just as good as > the paste. Our Fjords love the taste! > > >My vet used a "drenching syringe" which he hooked directly to the bottle > of > >Eqvalan for multiple doses. However.he said I could save money if > I would > >give it myself and he would sell me a bottle; > > Yes, a person can save money with the liquid. > > >[He also said] that the liquid was really much more effective. It is > apparently immediately >absorbed through the mucous membranes of the > mouth, etc. into the blood stream and >gets any larvae moving around in > the blood and tissues, altho not the encysted ones. > >I suppose the paste does the same, but gets diluted with the stomach > contents. > > I don't really think the mucous membranes in the horse's mouth can absorb > 10cc of liquid before the horse has a chance to swallow it, so much or > most of it probably still gets to the stomach. In fact, if anything, the > paste probably stays in the mouth longer. Compare how it would be for a > person to try to swallow a teaspoon of toothpaste vs. a teaspoon of > water. I don't think the difference in consistency really matters > though; They both work well. > > (Incidently, Ivomec is a good dewormer for goats, sheep, and llamas when > given orally. It is labeled to be used as an injection; However, many > people are reluctant to give shots, so they use it orally. As long as a > person is careful and makes sure it all gets in there, it seems to work > fine. And while we're on the subject, if you have goats, deworm them at > least four times per year. We see more problems with wormy goats than > wormy horses. ) > > Brian Jacobsen, DVM > Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch > Salisbury, North Carolina >
RE: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: "Julia E. Pollock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Steve, Yesterday I was welcomed to the new list and today I got an e-mail that I was dropped. I want to continue getting mail from the Fjord list. Julia Pollock [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve McIlree Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 3:53 PM To: Fjord Horse List Subject:Welcome to the New List This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Let me initiate the new FjordHorse list by welcoming everyone. The switch-over seemed to go pretty smoothly to me. Please let me know right away if anyone has any problems. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889)
Re: Eqvalan (Welcome to the New List)
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, in regards to your request for a veterinary comment, you wrote: >The Eqvalan is specifically labled for oral use , but the Ivomec is labled for injection. >However the Merck Factory rep said they were identical. I quess you should verify this >for yourself somehow and not take my word for it! :) First, so that no one mistakes Jean's intent, realize that the Ivomec is labeled for injection in CATTLE, not horses. For a short time the injectable was available for horses, but after a few horses died from Clostridial infections at the injection site, the company discontinued it. Also, there is an Ivomec injectable for swine that is a different strength than the cattle product. I have actually never bothered to ask if the Ivomec injectable was exactly the same as the Eqvalan oral formula. I had just assumed (dangerous to do) that since they were labeled for different species, they were slightly different. I will say, though, that a veterinarian is putting him/herself on slightly shaky ground if they sell a non-labeled product for a horse (Ivomec) when there is an effective and available product that is labeled for horses (Eqvalan), even if the contents are exactly the same. So that everyone knows what paste wormer we are talking about replacing, the active ingredient in Eqvalan is the same as what's in Zimectrin, Equimectrin, and Rotectin I. >I thought it might be more of a hassle to administer the liquid instead of the paste, but it >actually was easier, as I squirted it in with a 12 CC plastic syringe without a needle and >they made no attempt to spit it out. I agree. As long as you are careful, using the liquid is just as good as the paste. Our Fjords love the taste! >My vet used a "drenching syringe" which he hooked directly to the bottle of >Eqvalan for multiple doses. However.he said I could save money if I would >give it myself and he would sell me a bottle; Yes, a person can save money with the liquid. >[He also said] that the liquid was really much more effective. It is apparently immediately >absorbed through the mucous membranes of the mouth, etc. into the blood stream and >gets any larvae moving around in the blood and tissues, altho not the encysted ones. >I suppose the paste does the same, but gets diluted with the stomach contents. I don't really think the mucous membranes in the horse's mouth can absorb 10cc of liquid before the horse has a chance to swallow it, so much or most of it probably still gets to the stomach. In fact, if anything, the paste probably stays in the mouth longer. Compare how it would be for a person to try to swallow a teaspoon of toothpaste vs. a teaspoon of water. I don't think the difference in consistency really matters though; They both work well. (Incidently, Ivomec is a good dewormer for goats, sheep, and llamas when given orally. It is labeled to be used as an injection; However, many people are reluctant to give shots, so they use it orally. As long as a person is careful and makes sure it all gets in there, it seems to work fine. And while we're on the subject, if you have goats, deworm them at least four times per year. We see more problems with wormy goats than wormy horses. ) Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear jean in fairbanks, boy, the liquid sounds much better, especially if you can get a large multi-dose vial through some vet supply catalogue. do you rotate the different wormers or give the same each time? i have been told and read, that it is best to rotate. do the other types come in liquid, do you know? thanks for all the good info. denise in calif. - Original Message - From: "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Welcome to the New List > This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The Eqvalan is specifically labled for oral use , but the Ivomec is labled > for injection. However the Merck Factory rep said they were identical. I > quess you should verify this for yourself somehow and not take my word for > it! :) > > I thought it might be more of a hassle to administer the liquid instead of > the paste, but it actually was easier, as I squirted it in with a 12 CC > plastic syringe without a needle and they made no attempt to spit it out. > My vet used a "drenching syringe" which he hooked directly to the bottle of > Eqvalan for multiple doses. However when it broke, he simply used the > plastic syringe. Last time when I had the Spring clinic I was going to do > the ivermectin paste instead of having him worm with the liquid as that > cost $22 for each horse, but he said I could save money if I would give it > myself and he would sell me a bottle; that the liquid was really much more > effective. It is apparently immediately absorbed through the mucous > membranes of the mouth, etc. into the blood stream and gets any larvae > moving around in the blood and tissues, altho not the encysted ones. I > suppose the paste does the same, but gets diluted with the stomach contents. > > Any comments from our vet experts on liquid vs paste? > > > > >is the eqvalan or ivomec also made for oral use? or does it say injectable > > Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, Sun is setting at 2:37 and the temperature has > dropped to zero from a high yesterday of +45. The warm chinook wind > stripped all the beautiful snow and frost decorations off the spruce and > birch trees! :( > > > Jean Ernest > Fairbanks, Alaska > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Eqvalan is specifically labled for oral use , but the Ivomec is labled for injection. However the Merck Factory rep said they were identical. I quess you should verify this for yourself somehow and not take my word for it! :) I thought it might be more of a hassle to administer the liquid instead of the paste, but it actually was easier, as I squirted it in with a 12 CC plastic syringe without a needle and they made no attempt to spit it out. My vet used a "drenching syringe" which he hooked directly to the bottle of Eqvalan for multiple doses. However when it broke, he simply used the plastic syringe. Last time when I had the Spring clinic I was going to do the ivermectin paste instead of having him worm with the liquid as that cost $22 for each horse, but he said I could save money if I would give it myself and he would sell me a bottle; that the liquid was really much more effective. It is apparently immediately absorbed through the mucous membranes of the mouth, etc. into the blood stream and gets any larvae moving around in the blood and tissues, altho not the encysted ones. I suppose the paste does the same, but gets diluted with the stomach contents. Any comments from our vet experts on liquid vs paste? >is the eqvalan or ivomec also made for oral use? or does it say injectable Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, Sun is setting at 2:37 and the temperature has dropped to zero from a high yesterday of +45. The warm chinook wind stripped all the beautiful snow and frost decorations off the spruce and birch trees! :( Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear jean, is the eqvalan or ivomec also made for oral use? or does it say injectable on the label. the two are usually not interchangeable. wondering why it might be easier than the paste? you still have to squirt it into their mouths. please let us know. thanks, denise
Re: Re[2]: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Steve re info about "Who" Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well said Lisa P. JeanPS Do we know some one famous here? Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That one of mine to Linda should have been to Michelle!!! I think am famous...for forgetting. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 05:53 PM 12/22/99 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Let me initiate the new FjordHorse list by welcoming everyone. The switch-over seemed to go pretty smoothly to me. Please let me know right away if anyone has any problems. I got you here ok. I take it the new address to send mail to the list is fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Right? Mike
Re[2]: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean-- Wednesday, December 22, 1999, you wrote: > "Who" is located where in reference to new commands on the list? I have disabled the "who" command on the new list as it was on the old list. I have done this to protect everyone's privacy from spammers who subscribe to mailing lists for the sole purpose of harvesting email addresses. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889)
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, look in your wlcome message and you will find the ddifferent commands. "Eqvalan" liquid is the brand of Ivermectin by Merck, and it is under prescription. My vet sold it to me for about twice what it is listed in KV vet supply, but I saved money on doing it myself. Apparently "Ivomec" 1 % injectable for cattle is the very same stuff, but not under prescription! The price in the K-V vet catalog is about the same per ML but EQVALAN comes in 100 ml bottles, IVOMEC comes in 50 and 200 ML bottles. 1 ml/110 lbs, or 10 ml for a 1100 lb horse. I use a 12 ml plastic syringe and squirt it onto the middle of the horse's tongue. They don't seem to spit it out like the paste! Glad you are having some dry weather...I would have preferred the 10 inches of snow they were warning us about, rather than this melting stuff and freezing rain! We're losing our insulation! Jean in Fairbanks, temp dropped to +39, but still dripping out there: all the pretty snow and frost has fallen off the trees! > >Jean, Two questions, "Who" is located where in reference to new commands on >the list? And what is liquid ivermectin. Is it the same as for cows and >injected? Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, Two questions, "Who" is located where in reference to new commands on the list? And what is liquid ivermectin. Is it the same as for cows and injected? I bought a bottle for the chickens and then chickened out!! Ahem. Jean PS it has been in the forties and dry for two days. Sheer heaven. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, just testing the new list. Lets TRY and make a fresh start and not turn every subject into a " I dont agree with what your saying": pissing contest. It does the memory of June and Jean disgrace, to see what started as condolenses , turn into a big fued over where or where not we all go (animals included) when we leave this world. If you dont agree, you dont have to respond EVERY time, AND not every subject has to be beaten into the ground . OKAY NERVE WAS STRUCK i admit. And a little advice (given for free and unsolicited) A little sugar and humor always makes the words better May you all have a very merry Christmas and a Happy New year PS Lisa PeDerson, you have the right idea, i loved your post about the signature lines Michele Noonan Wild Hair Ranch Home of 4 children 6 horses 3 (wishing it was 2) dogs and 5 cats that all need fixing soon Havent done anything famous Home is under construction and my presents arent wrapped
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This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, steve! Looks good to me? I see we can find out who is on the list? (the command "who")? Again, thanks for all your work Steve..this list is important to me! I don't geel so isolated way up here in Fairbanks! The temp got up to +43 today and I got manes cut, and wormed everybody with liquid Eqvalan (ivermectin). Boy, that's much easier than using the paste! and my vet says its is more effective. Now, if I only could have gotten the farrier out to do their feet...first time in two months it has been warm enough, but the roads were slick sheets of ice, with freezing rain, "frost" building up on the cold pavement, etc. More freezing rain predicted. Then back to -10 to -30 Friday and Christmas! What crazy weather! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where we are GAINING daylight, even if it only half a minute! At 05:53 PM 12/22/1999 -0600, you wrote: >This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Let me initiate the new FjordHorse list by welcoming everyone. The > switch-over seemed to go pretty smoothly to me. Please let me know > right away if anyone has any problems. > >-- >Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA > Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped > scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889) > > > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Let me initiate the new FjordHorse list by welcoming everyone. The switch-over seemed to go pretty smoothly to me. Please let me know right away if anyone has any problems. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889)
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/24/99 11:04:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Does everyone remember the day you "actually saw our first Fjord"? >> Oh yeah! It was my last day at my lesson barn. I quit because I felt like I was going nowhere, trotting endlessly in circles with a retired Western Pleasure QH who was as bored as I was. I'm walking out to my car, when I see these two creatures who stop me in my tracks. Yes, they were Norwegian Fjords. Atypical, actually, at 13hh w/natural long manes. I was captivated by their quiet nature, their "primitive" coloration, and their strong build. I asked the owner what kind they were. She wasn't very talkative, but I did get the breed name. Next, I go home to the internet (dangerous thing!) and find Fjord web sites. I am hooked. I find www.fjordpony.com and next thing I know, I'm a happy Fjord Mom! Brigid
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re first fjord sighting. I had my big trakehner training at Miari stables in Oympia, Wa. One day while having watched my boy work, Ann came out with Wez and I fell in love with that darling hard working boy. My mare, Amblin Brook was a whiz of a brood mare and was sick and tired of arena work altho she was very good. So I was finally able to let her go and that left room for Howdie my first fjord. It really was a plot inspired by Wez. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Betsy Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Betsy Bauer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does everyone remember the day you > "actually saw our first > Fjord"? Yes. It was Howard Berge's stallion, Chico, who looked very much like a heavy-built old style Quarter Horse as I recall. Still I liked him. So we began looking for one - no easy task in western Washington where there were none! It seemed we were always "just a little late" in our inquiries and the horses had "just sold". Finally a couple about an hour's drive from us bought a pair of mares from Bev Bishop(then Bev Tarmina), so we drove by to see them. No one was at home, so we just looked from the car. By this time we had received pictures from Anita Unrau - in Alberta, Canada, no less - and had tentatively chosen a mare, based on our still wanting her when we actually saw her. Mid-summer that year we finally saw - up close and "personal" - their herd. The mare we had picked was everything her picture showed, and more. She was the first Fjord I ever got close enough to to touch, and we are still "together". We bought her on the spot, loaded her up and brought her home - what a trip!! That was in 1986. She was the beginning of an adventure with several Fjords over the years. At 28 she is retired and enjoying it. It took a while to realize that, although I like her ulsdun color, it is not all that easy to come by, so Line is our only ulsdun. She does pass her personality - unflappable - on to her babies though. And some of them produce ulsdun foals. Her eyes, by the way, are also quite large and kind. No, they are not light colored, but are brown - a little lighter brown than those of a brown dun, but still VERY brown. Needless to say, I'm glad that Orville weakened and "let" Anita buy those two ulsdun mares she saw in Norway and wanted. I have been very happy with Line - thank you very much guys! Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/24/99 23:04:58 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Does everyone remember the day you "actually saw our first Fjord"? >> Oh yes. At the Washington County Fair. I took my son to it, and ended up around the animal exhibits. Walked through the quarter horse area, the percheron, clydesdale areas and then stopped. There were some exquisite small horses that I'd never seen before. Such big eyes, such beautiful manes. I was given the Fjord Flyer. I stayed and just stared at the horses. Till my little boy literally dragged me away. Next year: same thing. Moved to New Mexico, saw an ad in the local horse magazine for fjords. Mentioned them in passing to my husband, how they are so beautiful and sweet, I wanted one. He took me for a drive to Ginny Cowles place and to my surprise told me to pick one. Ginny had two mares that were equally beautiful for sale. Wendy and Juniper. I couldn't decide between the two till Ginny told me to hurry up and pick one. She would give me first choice, but somebody else was interested too! Tough decision, but you all know who I picked! Pamela
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This message is from: "Betsy Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Welcome Patti Jo & Dave, It's really nice to have you among us in the list. I often have people from Wisconsin looking for fjords. May I invite them to contact you and learn more??? Does everyone remember the day you "actually saw our first Fjord"? Busily matching up fjords & buyers, Betsy Bauer www.fjordpony.com
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beth, You'd certainly be welcome to come for the 'ride of a lifetime'! Actually, I think I may have created some 'beach monsters'! This weekend the gals from my barn went back to the beach for an encore ride. The weather has been unbelievable. I had to stay home and work, sigh. One of the gals said her hubby was mumbling as she left about her cleaning house someday?! She told him she'd do it next month after the rains started! HA! Just as an interesting side note - on our final beach ride last year, we discovered, the hard way, that horses can get vertigo if you allow them to stare at the water. As the waves come in, the sand and water is in constant swirling motion. We had a couple of them actually go down in the surf!! They got dizzy and fell right over! It was pretty scary, not to mention 'invigorating'? The Pacific Ocean is pretty cold this far north! We don't let them focus on the ground anymore while riding on the beach!! Regarding haircuts. Niki May recently referred to herself as the "Nazi" of turnout. Guess I am the NAZI of haircuts! It is a matter of preferance. I show in a lot of open shows. For the most part, those judges are 'main-breed' judges, i.e., Qh, Arab, Paint etc. They expect to see the horses 'clean'. When in Rome - so I have always done MAJOR haircuts to go with the flow. I trim ears (pony clip for horses outside) and the goat hairs under the chin as well as whiskers and the hair inside the nostrils. It never ceases to amaze me how much prettier they look after a haircut! Also, in this area, we have clay instead of dirt. We have a small creek that flows through 2 of our pastures. The horses spend a lot of time up to their knees searching for that one blade of GREENER grass that grows there. The GUMBO that clings to their legs is like concrete! There is no 'brushing' that stuff off! It takes a fire hose or JACKHAMMER to get it off! So I keep the hair on their legs as short as possible. Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR
