Re: [Flashcoders] DHTML menus overlaying Flash elements
er, that should have been: swf.addParam(wmode, opaque); On Apr 20, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Riley, Jason wrote: On the site I am working on, there is an OpenCube DHTML menu system that when moused over causes the drop down menus to overlay on a large Flash element. How can I make it so the menus sit on top of the Flash element rather than behind it? Is this a setting in the Flash file or do I need to do it through the code? If through the code are there any snippets somewhere on this? Despite the fact that this is likely an old topic, I cannot find much information on it. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] eolas fix for IE7
even older versions should work fine (i think we were testing it in ie7 all the way back to 1.3 or so) - but using the very latest is always a good idea. On Apr 3, 2007, at 12:44 PM, eka wrote: Hello :) you use the last version of SWFObject ? (1.5) http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/ EKA+ :) 2007/4/3, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm using it and it works. Got any code to have a look at. Maybe you're using it differently. Adrian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew Ganz Sent: 03 April 2007 17:20 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] eolas fix for IE7 hi. i've tried implementing the eolas fix using the flashobject.js method and swfobject.js method and they both work for IE6 but not for IE7. is there a different fix needed for IE7? thanks. -- matt. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] eolas fix for IE7
you don't need anything in the /source folder - it's just there so you can see the code in an uncompressed way, or if you want to modify the expressinstall.swf files. you only need swfobject.js and (optionally) expressinstall.swf On Apr 3, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Matthew Ganz wrote: my foolish mistake. i only had the swfobject.js file and i didn't put the swfobject_source.js file into the 'source' directory as well as all the other expressInstall files that are included in the fix. it's working now. thanks. matt. - Original Message - From: Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:34 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] eolas fix for IE7 I'm using it and it works. Got any code to have a look at. Maybe you're using it differently. Adrian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew Ganz Sent: 03 April 2007 17:20 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] eolas fix for IE7 hi. i've tried implementing the eolas fix using the flashobject.js method and swfobject.js method and they both work for IE6 but not for IE7. is there a different fix needed for IE7? thanks. -- matt. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] eolas fix for IE7
that code looks fine to me, are you testing this on a web server? IE has different security restrictions for local files vs. internet based files, so it's always best to test it on a web server. On Apr 3, 2007, at 1:37 PM, Matthew Ganz wrote: actually, all of a sudden it's not working again. here's the code i have on my html page: html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 / titlehome/title script type=text/javascript src=javascript/swfobject.js/script /head body bgcolor=#ff div id=flashcontent This text is replaced by the Flash movie. /div script type=text/javascript var so = new SWFObject(home.swf, mymovie, 100%, 100%, 8, #FF); so.addParam(scale, NOSCALE); so.write(flashcontent); /script /body /html - Original Message - From: Geoff Stearns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] eolas fix for IE7 even older versions should work fine (i think we were testing it in ie7 all the way back to 1.3 or so) - but using the very latest is always a good idea. On Apr 3, 2007, at 12:44 PM, eka wrote: Hello :) you use the last version of SWFObject ? (1.5) http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/ EKA+ :) 2007/4/3, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm using it and it works. Got any code to have a look at. Maybe you're using it differently. Adrian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew Ganz Sent: 03 April 2007 17:20 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] eolas fix for IE7 hi. i've tried implementing the eolas fix using the flashobject.js method and swfobject.js method and they both work for IE6 but not for IE7. is there a different fix needed for IE7? thanks. -- matt. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] flash player 9 debugger version detection issues
i adjusted the detection in swfobject to account for debug players in the last update (1.5) which may explain why my test site works and youtube doesn't. but they should still detect that you have a version 7 which is what all their videos are encoded for... are you using firefox or IE? and are you on XP or OS X? Have you tried running the uninstaller and then reinstalling it? On Apr 1, 2007, at 11:48 PM, Ivan Todorov | BLITZ wrote: Hey Guys, During the Flex 2 Trial installation I was prompted to replace my regular Flash Player 9 with the Flash Player 9 Debugger version. Since a lot of detection scripts are failing all over the net including: SWFObject 1.4 on YouTube - claims I have no Flash Player AC_OETags.js used all over the place - including when I tried to check out the Flex PM app: http://radscientist.com/flexpm/demo/ - and - http://codeazur.com.br/stuff/fc64_final/ However, these sites work fine: http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/swfobject.html http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/ Any ideas of what may be causing the Debugger version to cause problems with detection scripts? Thx, Ivan ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Site check - Javascript errors (can't figure out)
can you expand on the problems you had with swfobject? i haven't seen any problems like you described while using it. On Jan 29, 2007, at 5:48 PM, Patrick Lemiuex wrote: Hey guys and girls: I am having an issue with javascript flash detection and using javascript methods from html form elements to target methods in my swf movie. This is working in Firefox, however in IE i get errors on the page. I'm using the factory adobe flash detection script. ( I tried swfobject - which resets our session and a couple different document write methods, all of them have issues) Can anybody give me a suggestion on this one? http://me.com/_meslide Why does not internet explorer have to suck so bad anyway? I'm a javascript luddite anyway. Thanks, Patrick ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Help: test EventDispatcher speed please
I think most people should be very interested in these results, even if they don't know it yet. On Mar 21, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Francis Bourre wrote: hello! As I know, I didn't ask ppl to test an application or a site I made. That's a test that to enlight the fact that EventDispatcher behaves weird on mac player. I think ppl should be interested by these results mac vs pc/linux, don't you think ? :) francis Le 21 mars 07 à 15:15, Merrill, Jason a écrit : http://osflash.org/flashcoders/etiquette ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Annoying, (should be simple) bitwise problem
there's an old article on the adobe dev center that talks all about this... go check it out: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/bitwise_operators.html On Mar 21, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Alias™ wrote: Hi guys, This is annoying me - I'm just trying to get the seperate RGB component values out of a hex number, then manipulate and reconstruct them. var col = 0xFF; r = col 16; g = col 8 % 255; b = col % 255; trace(r=+r.toString(16)); trace(g=+g.toString(16)); trace(b=+b.toString(16)); col2 = r 16 + g 8 + b; trace(col2=+col2.toString(16)); Anyone got any idea why this isn't working right? My blue values are doing all sorts of wierd stuff - getting smaller, flipping out etc - is it a modulo problem maybe? Should be simple but this always gets me... Any help much appreciated, Alias ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] shared object default size limit
the default is 100k, so if you need less than that, you don't need to call flush() On Mar 14, 2007, at 4:44 PM, Matthew Ganz wrote: hi. is there a default size for a shared object? i know thru the settings you can set it to different values, but when i test a flash app that wants to set one, it says the app is requesting 10KB of space. i also read in the flash help glossary that shared objects can be created up to a maximum of 100K of data per domain. thanks. -- matt. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Differences in Mozilla vs IE player...why?
most performance differences are negligible between the players. if you are seeing bugs because of slow code execution, you are probably writing some Very Bad Code and should consider changing the way your app is put together (eg. use callbacks for when dependancies finish, etc.) The getURL issue is odd - are you trying to open two new browser windows at the same time or change multiple frames/iframes on a page? You could easily call a single javascript function that opens the two windows for you instead. And if you are using it to call javascript, you should be looking into the ExternalInterface class instead of using the getURL to call javascript (if you are targeting flash player 8, then look into the flash/javascript integration kit, which will queue up your js calls so they don't get skipped like that) On Mar 16, 2007, at 6:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Though I'd ask the flash community their opinion since this has been on my mind lately and has caused no shortage of grief. Perhaps the title of my post should be 'Why is the Mozilla/Firefox Flash Player plugin so much better?' One thing I've noticed is that an iidentical flash app played in both Firefox and IE doesn't always play the same. If there are 'bugs', they can usually be traced to timing diffences. In my expereince code/loops seem to execute much slower in the IE/ plugin and also there is the 'geturl' bug (or is this a feature?) wherby simultaneous geturl calls are correctly resolved in Firefox but IE only recognizes the last one. I'm not a C coder but to me, it would make sense to make it a HUGE priority to ensure both versions of the plugin perform identically, Any thoughts? [e] jbach at bitstream.ca [c] 416.668.0034 [w] www.bitstream.ca ...all improvisation is life in search of a style. - Bruce Mau,'LifeStyle' ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] xml parse question
all the attributes are in the attributes object, so you can just do a
for...in loop and grab them all.
example:
for(a in xObj.attributes) {
obj[a] = xObj.attributes[a];
}
On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:19 AM, Carl Welch wrote:
What if I don't know what the names are going to be? How can I check
how many attributes are in a node? is there anything like
XMLNode.attributes.length (I know that's wrong...) so I can loop
through and find out their names?
--
Carl Welch
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On 3/14/07, Andrew Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
XMLNode.attributes.imageID
XMLNode.attributes.img
XMLNode.attributes.text
etc
Hi coders,
I just started working on a new project that is requiring me to
handle
an xml format that I haven't had to deal with yet.
Here is an example of what it looks like:
image imageID=halLogin img=hal.png text=
Font=Black,8,Regular,AlignLeft onPanel=true xPos=0.25
yPos=0.112 /
I'm used to parsing xml that looks like this:
something
blahfoo/blah
/something
How do I parse xml that looks like the first example with multiple
values inside of a single node?
Thanks.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Internet Explorer Problem
this might help you out: http://blog.deconcept.com/2006/12/08/corrupt-flash-player-install- after-ie-7-upgrade/ On Mar 14, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Juan Anzaldo wrote: Hi I am using the swfobject object from deconcept, and I have a strange behavior in some Internet Explorer web browsers, in some navigators everything works correctly, but in others it appears the message that or this not installed or does not accept Javascript, but the configurations of the navigator in those machines are the correct one, have correctly qualified the Javascript options (enable), What can i do to see where is the problem? thanks Ing. Juan Anzaldo Tel Cel. 614 427-6523 Blog : http://janzaldo.wordpress.com - Original Message From: hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:38:45 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Site Check got all the way through. On 3/14/07, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could I get some of you to check this site: http://www.simon-mills.co.uk/test/ Some people are saying that it gets stuck at 1% or 2%. Can anyone confirm this? Cheers. Adrian Lynch ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com __ __ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] flash / ajax
I have an example I never officially released, and i remember seeing another example on another blog somewhere. it's pretty easy to set up, just do a loadvars and pass the raw data back to js and it works very similarly to the native xmlhttprequest. On Mar 14, 2007, at 1:28 PM, bruce wrote: hi... looking at implementing an ajax widget and wanted to know if anybody's combined ajax and flash to be able to implement a cross-domain solution? thanks -bruce ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash / Flex specific search engine
you guys should have it show the number of results under each tab. it looks like you get no results at all when you search for something that's not in the livedocs, but is under other tabs. or maybe just some indication that there are other results in the other tabs? On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote: http://www.gotswf.com Feedback appreciated. Trying to figure out what this is - what does Flash / Flex specific search engine mean? I went to the site, but still not sure how this different from a regular search engine (other than that is has far far less contents/links from search results). Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Technology Operations, Learning Leadership Development eTools Multimedia Team ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Global functions
a good way to do this would be to make a static class for your
tracking stuff.
then you can do things like:
StatsTracker.trackPage(url);
from any class or timeline (assuming you import the class first, etc.
etc.)
then you can use ExternalInterface to make the js call to your
tracking function.
On Mar 8, 2007, at 5:31 PM, Glen Pike wrote:
Hi,
I am trying to wrap the getURL function in order to track
outgoing links using Google analytics...
e.g.
function getURLTracked(url, window, method) {
getURL(url, window);
getURL(javascript:alert('+ url+'));
//getURL(javascript:urchinTracker('/app/ + url +'););
}
I would like to create a global function that is available to
AS2 classes and the timeline
I have tried to write it in an external file and #include this
file in the constructor of my classes, but still don't get the
function in scope at compile time.
Apart from writing a method in my class, which I would have to
repeat for a few different classes, is there a way of making this
function available to the timeline and the AS2 classes in one foul
swoop?
I have a core application and lots of loaded SWF's with nasty
timeline buttons to track...
Thanks
Glen
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash / Flex specific search engine
i searched for swfobject and got a few results. none were the official page. that made me sad :( On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Steve Drucker wrote: http://www.gotswf.com Feedback appreciated. Regards, Steve Drucker CEO Fig Leaf Software www.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] swf/html and swf/swf communication
localconnection i believe is supported in all the browsers - as long as you have the minimum flash player requirement (i think flash player 6 was the first one to add support?) as for the getURL question: if you are using flash player 8 or higher you should be using external interface, which i don't think has a limit (or if it does, it's a very high limit). BUT, that said, you shouldn't really put javascript code into your swfs like that, it's much smarter to put the js code in your html page, and then simply call the js functions from your swf when you need them to do something. On Feb 26, 2007, at 3:32 AM, Martin Klasson wrote: Hi Flashcoders, I have been searching around, but not found it to be that easy to get answers. I know that you people here tends to know everything, so I will ask you. first question: Is LocalConnection the only way to talk between two swf's in a browser (when NOT using javascript), and are there a list of browsers/os that supports this? In my case it I will have two swf's on the same html-page. -or is there a list of browsers/os that LocalConnection does NOT work on? second question: Inline javascript in flash, are there any problems with that? I mean using javascript in a getURL to make it for example write out another swf in a div. I have used javascript to open popups directly from a getURL -but is there any known limitations of writing javascript in the getURL? Maybe the 99 character-bugg still is there in Flash as well? Thanks mates! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] FMS 2.0 Flash 8 Flv Player Continues Playback after Window Close
this is a sort-of-known issue - i don't think adobe ever posted a knowledge base article about it, but they implemented a fix for it in flash player 9 (which was buggy) i replied to your post here: http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/forum/discussion/123/fms-20- flash-8-flv-player-continues-playback-after-window-close/ On Jan 30, 2007, at 5:04 PM, Jeff Harrington wrote: Hey Andy, Wow... and duh... Thanks for making me look at it again, I was modifying the onunload code for something which gets pushed into a sub-div. That fixed it! The onunload videoController.destroy method just wasn't getting called. Thanks for making me reexamine my code. Ouch! Still a weird problem though. This video playback must be pretty deeply-embedded code in the OS. (This was an IE only problem fwiw). Jeff Andy Herrman wrote: Could you put some javascript in the window the movie actually plays in (you said it's a browser window, so I'm guessing javascript is doable) that detects when the window is closed and sends a message to the Flash movie? The flash movie can then detect that and stop playing? That is weird that it's not stopping when the window is closed. I figured the Flash player would shut down the movie once the window containing it is gone. -Andy On 1/30/07, Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, the guys on the FMS list quasi-suggested I contact you guys as you might have encountered similar playback enigmae? I've been working around some strange errors in NetStream codes (InvalidArg) which prevents seeks from working sometimes and now I've created a player that just will not stop playing the stream until the complete browser - every window - it's in a child window - is closed. I'm closing 3 windows to get the stream to stop playing. What can I do to insure that a browser window close will shut down the stream? I've created destroy methods in my AS but they don't seem to be getting called at least as long as the parent window is open. The player is in a child window. Thanks for any suggestions... Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] swfObject+externalinterface
should be fine, do you have any other elements with the same id as
your movie (mymovie) or is your swf inside a form?
On Jan 24, 2007, at 6:57 AM, Andreas R wrote:
I'm having some trouble catching EI calls when using swfObject,
anyone else got this working?
div id=flashcontent
This text is replaced by the Flash movie.
/div
script type=text/javascript
var so = new SWFObject(display.swf, mymovie, 200, 100,
7, #336699);
function sayHello(){
alert(hello);
}
so.write(flashcontent);
/script
where display.swf has this:
testButton.onPress = function(){
ExternalInterface.call(sayHello);
}
no go for me :(
- A
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Re: [Flashcoders] passing url variables to flash movie
wow you are all making this much harder than it has to be.
If you use SWFObject to embed your swfs, it has a built in function
that grabs vars from the url string.
an example:
var so = new SWFOBject(mymovie.swf, mymovie, ...);
so.addVariable(myvar, getQueryParamValue(myurlvar));
so.addVariable(myothervar, getQueryParamValue(myotherurlvar));
so.write(target);
get it here:
http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/
On Jan 24, 2007, at 4:12 PM, iashido wrote:
dont know in asp (but on my prev research i found many simple .asp
examples on google)
look at the url then in flash i have sn and fe variables that will
be filled onfly when u swf its loaded
http://www.iashido.com/test/test.php?sn=34fe=var2
u can use get them in swf like that whatever.com/flash.swf?
var1=value1var2=value2varn=valuen (its ugly but works :)
or javascript might save your day (search archives/google)
itseveryday.ro
iashido.com
On Jan 24, 2007, at 10:48 PM, Gustavo Duenas wrote:
I don't think this guys have the phpdo you know how can I use
this in html?
regards
Gustavo
On Jan 24, 2007, at 3:41 PM, iashido wrote:
sometime i use this ald allways work:
... VALUE=voila.swf?sn=?php print $_GET['sn']; ?fe=?php
print $_GET['fe']; ? PARAM...
...
PARAM NAME=movie VALUE=voila.swf?sn=?php print $_GET['sn']; ?
fe=?php print $_GET['fe']; ? PARAM NAME=menu VALUE=false
PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high PARAM NAME=bgcolor
VALUE=#FF EMBED src=voila.swf?sn=?php print $_GET['sn']; ?
fe=?php print $_GET['fe']; ? menu=false quality=high
bgcolor=#FF WIDTH=100% HEIGHT=100% NAME=voila
ALIGN= ...
then i changes the .html into .php
and i have whatever.php?sn=value1fe=value2
and i have in flash variable sn and fe and amm as many as u want
hope this is what ur looking for
itseveryday.ro
iashido.com
On Jan 24, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Joshua Sera wrote:
You need to pass the variables in the GET query to
flashvars in the object tag. You'll have to use
JavaScript to write out the object tag, and insert the
variables in the right place.
--- Gustavo Duenas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Guys, I'm really concerned for this, Iknow this
might be easy for
you, but I'm knocking my head against the wall.
This is the code in the action script:
var video1 = nbc6;
var video = _root.video;
if (video1 = video){
tellTarget(this.videoLoader){
gotoAndPlay(2);
}
}
and this is the link in the text message:
fullpage.html?video=nbc6
I'd appreciate your help.
Thanks
Gustavo Duenas
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Re: [Flashcoders] Embed JS for flash 9 content
Can you give more details on the 'invalidate our php session in IE'
problem you mentioned?
Many people use SWFObject with PHP, and I've never heard of a problem
like this before.
On Jan 21, 2007, at 1:52 PM, {reduxdj} wrote:
Hi There,
I'm using a document write tag in js to avoid the click to activate
crap. I'm developing for flash 9 content. Do you know if there's
a way to detect and redirect if flash 9 is not being used? I tried
using swfobject, which worked, however it would invalidate our php
session in IE.
I can't use the build in flex/flash 9 detection because these are
single widgets within an html page, not full browser swf's are
something. Here is what my code looks like. I appreciate the help
as javascript is not my strong suit.
Here's what I am working with:
function homepageload2()
{
document.write('object classid=clsid:d27cdb6e-
ae6d-11cf-96b8-44455354 codebase=http://
fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/
swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0 width=800 height=250 id=landing
align=middle\n');
document.write('param name=allowScriptAccess
value=sameDomain /\n');
document.write('param name=movie value=/_p/viewer/some.swf /
param name=quality value=high /param name=bgcolor
value=#ff /\n');
document.write('embed src=/_p/viewer/some.swf quality=high
bgcolor=#ff width=800 height=250 name=homepage
align=middle allowScriptAccess=sameDomain type=application/x-
shockwave-flash pluginspage=http://www.macromedia.com/go/
getflashplayer /\n');
document.write('/object\n');
}
Thanks,
Patrick
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash IE OCX error
have you tried uninstalling the plugin (using the adobe uninstaller) and then reinstalling it? On Jan 22, 2007, at 3:36 AM, Arindam Dhar wrote: hi, I have encountered flash ocx error many times which just appears without any hint after which I have no other option but to close the relevent browser. This is what exactly i get in the error popup, Internet explorer encountered a problem with addon and needs to close. The following add-on running when this problem occured file: Flash9.ocx company : adobe systems incorporated Description :Adobe flash player 9 Has anyone faced this or has any explanation and solution? thanks, Arindam - Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?
no way, apple already has a widget engine - Dashboard. On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:05 PM, hosey hosey wrote: Here is a crack pipe for ya.released in June, Apollo in June (ish)Apollo runs the widgets on iphone? Smoke em if ya got em Hosey On 1/10/07, Andy Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if I believe that. Analysts are saying that, but I haven't seen any direct evidence that 3rd parties will be cut off (haven't seen anything from apple claiming this). I wouldn't be surprised either way. I don't tend to install anything on my phone as it is, so I doubt I would use it, but then again, there might be some really nice things that could be added. Though one of the arguments I've seen that suggests you *can* develop for it is widgets. Having a widgets engine like it seems to would be kind of useless if people couldn't write them (I have a feeling most of the widgets people use in OS X are 3rd party, and the phone would probably be the same). -Andy On 1/10/07, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See no third party apps about 1/4th the way down the page: http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com/2007/01/impact-of-apple- iphone.html Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Porroa / Porroa.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:43 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash? I'm interested in: will Apple let the posibility to open the capabilites of install third parties programs like IM's?, Will be a special version of FlashPlayer for the iPhone? Cheers, Erik Merrill, Jason escribió: In regards to this, Adobe's John Dowdell just posted this on Flashcoders: No responses from other staff members, because Apple usually locks down news pretty tightly at a launch. I didn't know about this device until the keynote, myself. I *do* know that Adobe staffers are currently working on getting some good guidance out there, but the key steps of initial disclosure are really up to Apple. I put up an early i dont know up on the weblog yesterday, and added some useful third-party analysis overnight: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/01/ iphone_launch.cfm Summary: No info yet, but ASAP. jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] site check please: swfobject issues
i've never heard of this happening on a mac. i *have* heard a few reports of this behavior happening with IE7, which i recently outlined in this blog post: http://blog.deconcept.com/2006/12/08/corrupt-flash-player-install- after-ie-7-upgrade/ but if she says she is on a mac, then maybe there is something else going on? On Dec 13, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Count Schemula wrote: Hey, could y'all visit a site I just did. Client is say her whole family had issues accessing the site and she says it makes her upgrade the flash player every time. She's on a Mac. I asked her for more information, but for now, I'm just assuming that there is something wrong. http://www.ash-designs.com I'm using swfobject with express install. It was fine for me on Windows XP and FF2 and IE7. Thanks, any feedback on access issues welcome. -- count_schemula ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q:passing multiple argements via a getURL javascript call
if you need to pass strings like that, you just have to include an
extra set of quotes...
you could either escape another set, like this:
getURL(javascript:testfunc(\+arg+\));
or use single quotes:
getURL(javascript:testfunc('+arg+'));
On Nov 17, 2006, at 4:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
I'm passing multiple arguments in a getURL javascript call.
Because of the way that arguments need to be enclosed in quotes I'm
not sure about the best way for handling this
Single argument (this works)
var arg='myvar'
getURL(javascript:testfunc(+arg+));
solution 2 (doesn't work, the javascript method doesn't get called)
var myob={};
myob.prop=String
myob.value=number
getURL(javascript:testfunc(+myob+));
Anyone have some ideas?
No, I can't use External Interface;)
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Re: [Flashcoders] Simple Flash player detection without versioning?
uhh, SWFObject requires you specify a version, but it's a *minimum* version... so if you publised your movie as flash 7 content, you say 'this requires flash player 7', and swfobject takes that as '7 or higher'. so you don't have to update anything. On Nov 9, 2006, at 1:52 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote: Yes, but I don't want my scripts to HAVE version detection for the users who do have the Flash player, because we always know what to build for and what version the user will have. Since the detection script gets copied all over the place, I don't want to update those scripts to account for newer Flash players when we push out newer versions. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Rodecker Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:42 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Simple Flash player detection without versioning? if they dont have flash player, then they won't have the required version number anyway, so wouldn't the version detection scripts still work? On 11/9/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might be a dumb and simple answer, but is there any way to simply detect the presence of the Flash player in IE WITHOUT also checking for a specific version number (IE detection only is required, not other browsers)? The Javascript detection scripts I've seen always check for say Flash 7 or 8, but not for just Flash. Reason is: In our case, all of our user base either has the Flash player installed of a specific common version enterprise wide, or not at all. I'd like a script that does not check for versions, or multiple versions, so we don't have to update the detection script when the enterprise pushes out a new player version to the user base. Our detection scripts in HTML files get pushed out and copied several times over to different web sites, so I don't want to have to update all of those later when new version of Flash get pushed out. It's probably quite simple with Javascript, I just don't have much time to research it today. Thanks! Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Grabbing data directly from the HTML page
I did some research into this a while back:
http://blog.deconcept.com/2006/02/27/using-alternate-content-flash/
end result: too much hassle to get the code you really want... you
never know when browsers will update and break it in the future, or
when some new obscure browser will come up and screw up your Flash
content.
this other method of loading the entire page as xml is an interesting
one, I know i've seen talk of things before, but i'm not aware of any
big sites that actually do it.
for most 'big' projects, we'll just use a database, and output the
page as html for the browser, and have an option to output it as
clean xml for flash (or anything else that wants an xml feed of the
page content). so then you don't have to worry about forward
compatibility or rely on clientside conversion of SGML (or mangled
html, etc.)
On Nov 9, 2006, at 2:39 PM, Ryan Potter wrote:
Not sure how complicated your html page is, but I have been playing
with
the same idea but going at it a different way. I just loaded the
entire
page in as xml. As long as the page is valid xhtml it works great. I
realize it doesn't exactly answer your sgml question, but it should
get you
the same effect and it doesn't rewrite your code. Then you can
either go
directly to the node or use xpath to navigate to it.
Just a thought.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mike Keesey
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:24 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: [Flashcoders] Grabbing data directly from the HTML page
I was playing around with the idea of passing data from an HTML page
directly into a Flash movie via Javascript/SWFObject. One thing I
wanted
to try was sending the text that SWFObject replaces into the Flash
movie.
In Firefox this was pretty simple. E.g., if SWFObject was replacing
the
contents of div id=flash-content.../div, then all that was
needed
was something in the Javascript code like:
var swfObj = new SWFObject(parameters);
swfObj.addVariable(HTML_flashContent, escape('div
id=flash-content' +
document.getElementById(flash-content).innerHTML.toString() +
/div));
Then, in Flash, the root variable HTML_flashContent can be parsed into
an XML object. This has obvious benefits for search engine
optimization,
as well as making it so a Flash and non-Flash version of a page can be
the exact same file.
Unfortunately, though, Internet Explorer and Safari return SGML, not
XHTML, for the innerHTML property (e.g., the above div tag gets
converted to DIV id=flash-content.../DIV in IE). I made a
quick-and-dirty SGML to XHTML conversion tool to get around this,
and it
seems to work so far.
My question is, has anybody else made an SGML to XHTML conversion tool
in ActionScript, or should I continue to refine mine and offer it for
public use when done?
―
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Re: [Flashcoders] Grabbing data directly from the HTML page
no javascript, just do a new XML object in flash, and load the page.
so you really just need to pass the page url into flash:
so.addVariable(currentPage, document.location.href);
then use that to do an xml.load()
On Nov 9, 2006, at 3:03 PM, Mike Keesey wrote:
That sounds *much* nicer--how do you grab the whole XHTML page in
Javascript?
―
Mike Keesey
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Potter
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:39 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Grabbing data directly from the HTML page
Not sure how complicated your html page is, but I have been playing
with
the same idea but going at it a different way. I just loaded the
entire
page in as xml. As long as the page is valid xhtml it works
great. I
realize it doesn't exactly answer your sgml question, but it should
get
you
the same effect and it doesn't rewrite your code. Then you can
either
go
directly to the node or use xpath to navigate to it.
Just a thought.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Keesey
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:24 PM
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Subject: [Flashcoders] Grabbing data directly from the HTML page
I was playing around with the idea of passing data from an HTML page
directly into a Flash movie via Javascript/SWFObject. One thing I
wanted
to try was sending the text that SWFObject replaces into the Flash
movie.
In Firefox this was pretty simple. E.g., if SWFObject was replacing
the
contents of div id=flash-content.../div, then all that was
needed
was something in the Javascript code like:
var swfObj = new SWFObject(parameters);
swfObj.addVariable(HTML_flashContent, escape('div
id=flash-content' +
document.getElementById(flash-content).innerHTML.toString() +
/div));
Then, in Flash, the root variable HTML_flashContent can be parsed
into
an XML object. This has obvious benefits for search engine
optimization,
as well as making it so a Flash and non-Flash version of a page
can be
the exact same file.
Unfortunately, though, Internet Explorer and Safari return SGML, not
XHTML, for the innerHTML property (e.g., the above div tag gets
converted to DIV id=flash-content.../DIV in IE). I made a
quick-and-dirty SGML to XHTML conversion tool to get around this, and
it
seems to work so far.
My question is, has anybody else made an SGML to XHTML conversion
tool
in ActionScript, or should I continue to refine mine and offer it for
public use when done?
―
T. Michael Keesey
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Re: [Flashcoders] Simple Flash player detection without versioning?
swfobject is only 6.7kb... it doesn't get much lighter than that. if you *really* need something smaller (which sounds like a ridiculous need to me) you could take the plugin detection code from swfobject out and just use that. that would chop the size down to about 1/4 of the full size, and you could still use the version detection stuff. you would then have to rewrite the embed code, though, and that would push your file size back up anyway. On Nov 9, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote: Thanks re:swfobject, but I was hoping to keep this pretty light - there really is no simple Javascript way to do this? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Weekes Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:02 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Simple Flash player detection without versioning? Maybe you could use swfobject (pretty much industry standard detection script), and then pass in the RequiredVersion var of 0? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: 09 November 2006 18:53 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Simple Flash player detection without versioning? Yes, but I don't want my scripts to HAVE version detection for the users who do have the Flash player, because we always know what to build for and what version the user will have. Since the detection script gets copied all over the place, I don't want to update those scripts to account for newer Flash players when we push out newer versions. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Rodecker Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:42 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Simple Flash player detection without versioning? if they dont have flash player, then they won't have the required version number anyway, so wouldn't the version detection scripts still work? On 11/9/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might be a dumb and simple answer, but is there any way to simply detect the presence of the Flash player in IE WITHOUT also checking for a specific version number (IE detection only is required, not other browsers)? The Javascript detection scripts I've seen always check for say Flash 7 or 8, but not for just Flash. Reason is: In our case, all of our user base either has the Flash player installed of a specific common version enterprise wide, or not at all. I'd like a script that does not check for versions, or multiple versions, so we don't have to update the detection script when the enterprise pushes out a new player version to the user base. Our detection scripts in HTML files get pushed out and copied several times over to different web sites, so I don't want to have to update all of those later when new version of Flash get pushed out. It's probably quite simple with Javascript, I just don't have much time to research it today. Thanks! Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Simple Flash player detection without versioning?
sure, i think that you are making a mistake though not testing for a flash version number. if you have flash 8 content, and you user has flash player 7 (or lower) - your method would still embed the swf into the page, and the user's flash player would attempt to play that swf... often resulting in very strange things happening. maybe some stuff won't show up, maybe it will show up partially, maybe it will just be an empty box... it depends on the content. i completely understand your wanting to roll your own thing, that's why I wrote swfobject in the first place - all of the existing solutions weren't that great - overly bulky or too complicated to use, or sometimes just plain didn't work for the situations i needed. that said, i think you should take a good look at the whole package - it's very small and super easy to use, and lets you rest well knowing that your users don't get wacky content showing up. We use it on tons of high profile websites every day, and thousands of other people do as well (go and pick just about any flash site or flash movie these days and view source, i bet 8/10 times you'll see swfobject there in the source). it's just one file, not an entire framework or app to maintain. On Nov 9, 2006, at 4:51 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote: FYI - I looked in more detail at swfobject as was suggested and the only think I needed to pull out of it and plug into our other detection and embedding scripts was in the catch/try statements: axo = new ActiveXObject(ShockwaveFlash.ShockwaveFlash); Not specifying a version number. Thanks to Geoff who suggested I just pull out part of swfobject. Re: swfobject suggestions, I think I was really trying to get down to a teach me to fish, don't give me a fish kind of a thing because of our IT requirements, but I found the code I needed so I can fish. Thanks. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:43 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Simple Flash player detection without versioning? swfobject is only 6.7kb... it doesn't get much lighter than that. if you *really* need something smaller (which sounds like a ridiculous need to me) Before you actually think I have a ridiculous need - I'm not talking about filesize necessarily, I'm also talking about controlling large amounts of sourcecode - in this case, code we didn't write - or at least being able to understand/navigate all of it. And this is code that will be propagated to other systems and servers. I work for a Bank, you can imagine what that can mean from an IT perspective. :) Shoot me for not wanting to use swfobject out of the box and roll my own - but I will take a look at what we could pull out of it as you suggested. Thanks, Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Closing Browser Through Flash/Javascript
you need to add allowscriptaccess=always to your embed code.
BUT, even with that, you might not be able to close it.. usually when
you try to close a window you didn't open yourself, you get prompted
by the browser... nothing you can do about that.
if you really want it to behave like an app, you should look into
using one of the swf wrapper programs.
On Nov 8, 2006, at 8:09 AM, Holth, Daniel C. wrote:
Hello,
We are building Flash application that will be run off a CD and
would like to have a button that closes the browser the Flash
application is running in. We keep getting security errors that
'main.swf' is trying to communicate with 'index.html'. I know that
I can personally set these to 'always allow' but we do not want our
clients to get any security messages.
The java script code in the html page is:
script type=text/javascript language=JavaScript name=cmifrag
function index_f_DoFSCommand(command, args){
if(command == close){
self.opener=null;
self.close();
}
}
/script
and the actionscript called by the button is:
function exit(){
fscommand(close);
}
Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
-Dan
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Re: [Flashcoders] trying to make htmlText more w3c valid
I'm curious why you would want to. Are you taking that text and spitting it out as html? As long as it's inside the Flash player, it doesn't matter what it looks like, as the Flash Player is acting as the browser, and no web browser will ever see that htmlText or have to read it. To answer your question, though, it would just be a matter of running the string through a regex that makes tag + attributes lowercase [and removes deprecated tags]. On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Adrian Ionut Beschea wrote: Hello, The htmlText value of a textfield looks much like a jungle Eg, a simple Verdana text : TEXTFORMAT LEADING=2P ALIGN=LEFTFONT FACE=Verdana SIZE=12 COLOR=#FFsample text/FONT/P/TEXTFORMAT Is there a way to at least make the tags lower case ? I'm looking for an actionscript or php solution. Thanks. - Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] trying to make htmlText more w3c valid
but html inside your flash movie doesn't need to be valid, and in some cases might even display wrong, since the flash player is what displays it, not the browser... so trying to make htmlText that is only displayed in the flash player valid is a bit of a waste of time. when you validate an html page, it validates the html and not the stuff inside the swf. On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Adrian Ionut Beschea wrote: Hey. I want to have content that would eventually validate to XHTML- Basic standards. It's for a site that will have an alternate xhtml version besides flash. I know regular expressions are the way. They're bit of a vodoo for me, but I'm getting there... :) Geoff Stearns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious why you would want to. Are you taking that text and spitting it out as html? As long as it's inside the Flash player, it doesn't matter what it looks like, as the Flash Player is acting as the browser, and no web browser will ever see that htmlText or have to read it. To answer your question, though, it would just be a matter of running the string through a regex that makes tag + attributes lowercase [and removes deprecated tags]. On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Adrian Ionut Beschea wrote: Hello, The htmlText value of a textfield looks much like a jungle Eg, a simple Verdana text : SIZE=12 COLOR=#FFsample text Is there a way to at least make the tags lower case ? I'm looking for an actionscript or php solution. Thanks. - Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com - We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Justifying Flash 8 Content
I just use:
object, embed {
align: justify;
}
and that usually does the trick!*
* it's a joke. ha ha.
On Oct 31, 2006, at 3:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm working on a large commercial site that uses FP7 based content.
What are some of the arguments and/or approaches that Flash
developers have and are using to push the transition to FP8 content?
The bottom line is really about providing the best user experience
possible
Jim bachalo
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Justifying Flash 8 Content
not sure about accessibility changes.. but SEO changes are kinda pointless in most cases.. i wrote an article on flash SEO a while back that might interest you (and others on the list): http://blog.deconcept.com/2006/03/13/modern-approach-flash-seo/ On Oct 31, 2006, at 4:56 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: Merrill, Jason wrote: Video capabilities can be a big seller - also the fact most people have it now is another. The much enhanced security of the 8 player could be your Ace of Spades though. Might be hard to convince them that the blur, dropshadow, glow etc. effects you can do dynamically would be worth it, but its' a shot. I would just look at the Adobe Flash homepage at all the new features and use that as argument. What about accessability/use-ability/SEO-friendly aspects? Has F8 improved these things? Or, is Flex2 the better option if the above things are important to a client/boss? Got any links that talk about accessability/use-ability/SEO- friendly aspects and FLash? Sorry for ignorance... I have taken a break from Flash for a bit now, but am still a member of the list to keep-up with the conversations. Cheers, Micky -- Wishlist: http://snipurl.com/vrs9 Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Firefox on a mac
i don't understand how this would help. firefox on mac supports transparent wmode perhaps better than any other browser... what we really need to help is a link to the page so we can have a look and see what's going on. On Oct 30, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Steven Sacks | BLITZ wrote: Check to see if wmode=transparent in the embed tag of the Flash in the HTML. That may be the cause of your issue, but I'm not sure exactly what your issue is because your description is a bit vague. If removing the wmode=transparent doesn't help, can you please provide more information or perhaps a link? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Firefox on a mac
no, it works well enough on firefox + safari*. the decreased performance is true, but i beleive that's across all platforms.. it's just more noticeable on osx because it's already that much slower than PC in some cases. but just using the param by no means would make a movie not show up at all. * only with flash player 7 or higher on safari, fp6 doesn't support it On Oct 30, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Steven Sacks | BLITZ wrote: I may be wrong, but I thought IE on Windows is pretty much the only browser that it works absolutely correctly on. AFAIK, other browsers have issues including decreased performance, etc. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] swfobject - make it failproof
it sounds to me like what is happening is that the user has a version less than flash 8 installed, so they *should* get the expressinstall prompt, but that probably isn't working. mostlikely the code wasn't implemented properly in your swf. for the next release of swfobject i'm fixing this to make it more foolproof (failproof?) by using a separate swf for the expressinstall parts. this was mainly because it's required now for flash 9 swfs that use as3... so if you are interested in testing out the new version, you are welcome to grab it and try it. just note that the expressinstall stuff works a little differently... you should be able to see how it works by looking at the example expressinstall.html page. http://blog.deconcept.com/code/swfobject2.0/ if anyone else wants to try it out, feel free... we are using it here at schematic for a flash 9 project and haven't had any issues with it yet, so it appears to be pretty solid, but if anyone has any feedback feel free to send it along to me. On Oct 30, 2006, at 6:22 PM, Count Schemula wrote: For people publishing to Player 8, what steps are you taking when swfobject + express Install fails? For example, I don't think express install works with Flash Player 6 and some early versions of Player 7, which is causing me problems sometimes. I have text in the div id=flashcontent so, they _should_ see my text links and my link to upgrade the flash player, but sometimes I'm hearing that the flash loads, but the Player 8 features (important stuff like the text) is not showing up. Here is my var so: var so = new SWFObject(images/header_01.swf, header_01, 800, 150, 8.0.23, #00, true); so.write(flashcontent); It mostly works, but, it's still not 100% and it's causing me strife. -- count_schemula ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] [Flash Mac Widget]Transparency
you mean inside dashboard? i tried this when dashboard first came out, and I couldn't figure out how to get it working. On Oct 17, 2006, at 4:54 AM, Oliver Müller wrote: Hi, does anyone know how to make a swf transparent within a Mac widget? I only get white a white border though it works well in Safari. greetings, Olli this is my code: object classid=clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-44455354 codebase=http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/ swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0 width=200 height=200 id=test align=middle param name=allowScriptAccess value=sameDomain / param name=movie value=test.swf /param name=quality value=high /param name=wmode value=transparent /param name=bgcolor value=#ff /embed src=test.swf quality=high wmode=transparent bgcolor=#ff width=200 height=200 name=test align=middle allowScriptAccess=sameDomain type=application/x-shockwave-flash pluginspage=http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer; / /object ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Express Install (again)
there's one other issue with expressinstall, and that is if you are using IE, and some other program on your system is using the flash player .ocx file, then when you finish the upgrade, and your original browser window closes and the new one opens, the page will still think that you have the older flash player installed... so it will prompt to start the install all over again. this mostly happens with people using MSN messenger with the flash player in it (not sure the details, but i guess they have some skins or something that use flash?) this causes the ocx file to be locked and the upgrade can't finish until they quit all the apps that use the flash player. then everything is fine. as for your general issues with the upgrade: the first thing to test, is are you testing it on a web server? the redirect won't work if you are launching it from a local file - this is a common mistake people make when testing it. On Oct 17, 2006, at 8:05 AM, Kurt Dommermuth wrote: HI Toby, Thanks for the comments. Can I get your opinion on something? I've gone the route of using express install because it seemed to be that at worst you wouldn't be redirected back. Are there other risks? Thanks, Kurt At 06:45 AM 10/17/2006, you wrote: Can I recommend you subscribe to the SWFobject list and post this question there [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the point of the issue you are experiencing I would have thought this could have been also been influenced by browser behaviour and the installers behaviour, regardless of SWFObject, infact, I doubt SWFObject has any control over the installer or what it does after it has installed... although that is pure guesswork! OT: I think you will be lucky if you manage to get the express install to work identically on a lot of browsers over the next year, especially with IE7 coming out. Personally I would hold your horses depending on the commercial status of the website you are attaching this functionality too. Hope the ramblings help! T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Dommermuth Sent: 16 October 2006 18:57 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Express Install (again) A follow-up. It just worked on one and not the other. So freakin' erratic. will there ever be solid flash detection? At 01:53 PM 10/16/2006, you wrote: Hello All, I've seen a few posts regarding express install/ swfObject/ ufo etc.. I'm having a problem with both Adobe's express install scheme and swfObject. IE 6 works fine. Firefox (1.5.0.7) forces me to close the browser. No redirect back. I've tried on two different computers. no joy. Anyone else experience this? Is this a known problem? Any fix? Thanks, Kurt ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Express Install (again)
most of my projects these days do have express install enabled, so i use the same code that is in the 'basic w/ express install' example. swfobject doesn't really do much in the way of express install - all it does is check to see if the user needs the upgrade or not, and then pass some vars into your flash movie. once the movie gets those vars, it just laods a swf from adobe and it takes care of the rest. you do have control over which url is passed into the swf, and that determines where the user is sent after the install is done (by default it's the current page's url, but you can change it by using the xiRedirectUrl attribute. but rest assured, it does in fact work most of the time - i think the issues you are having are probably rare things that may be caused by your specific machine setup, and won't be seen by your users. there's hundreds (thousands?) of websites using this daily, and like you said, even if they aren't redirected back, they still get the updated player and will hopefully find their way back to your site just like they did in the 'old days' before express install existed. On Oct 17, 2006, at 9:26 AM, Kurt Dommermuth wrote: Hi Geoff, thank you for the clarification. so, as the creator of SWFobject, I'm sure you've put a ton of thought into this. (THANK YOU!) I want to do the best thing. would you say Basic Flash Embed with Express Install allowed is the best option? Or does it still succumb to the problem you outlined below? Basically, what do you use? also, yes, I did initially try testing on a local machine, but ultimately tested on a remote server. The results are inconsistent. thanks again, Kurt At 08:37 AM 10/17/2006, you wrote: there's one other issue with expressinstall, and that is if you are using IE, and some other program on your system is using the flash player .ocx file, then when you finish the upgrade, and your original browser window closes and the new one opens, the page will still think that you have the older flash player installed... so it will prompt to start the install all over again. this mostly happens with people using MSN messenger with the flash player in it (not sure the details, but i guess they have some skins or something that use flash?) this causes the ocx file to be locked and the upgrade can't finish until they quit all the apps that use the flash player. then everything is fine. as for your general issues with the upgrade: the first thing to test, is are you testing it on a web server? the redirect won't work if you are launching it from a local file - this is a common mistake people make when testing it. On Oct 17, 2006, at 8:05 AM, Kurt Dommermuth wrote: HI Toby, Thanks for the comments. Can I get your opinion on something? I've gone the route of using express install because it seemed to be that at worst you wouldn't be redirected back. Are there other risks? Thanks, Kurt At 06:45 AM 10/17/2006, you wrote: Can I recommend you subscribe to the SWFobject list and post this question there [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the point of the issue you are experiencing I would have thought this could have been also been influenced by browser behaviour and the installers behaviour, regardless of SWFObject, infact, I doubt SWFObject has any control over the installer or what it does after it has installed... although that is pure guesswork! OT: I think you will be lucky if you manage to get the express install to work identically on a lot of browsers over the next year, especially with IE7 coming out. Personally I would hold your horses depending on the commercial status of the website you are attaching this functionality too. Hope the ramblings help! T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Dommermuth Sent: 16 October 2006 18:57 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Express Install (again) A follow-up. It just worked on one and not the other. So freakin' erratic. will there ever be solid flash detection? At 01:53 PM 10/16/2006, you wrote: Hello All, I've seen a few posts regarding express install/ swfObject/ ufo etc.. I'm having a problem with both Adobe's express install scheme and swfObject. IE 6 works fine. Firefox (1.5.0.7) forces me to close the browser. No redirect back. I've tried on two different computers. no joy. Anyone else experience this? Is this a known problem? Any fix? Thanks, Kurt ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To
Re: [Flashcoders] flv not playing in IE with Flash 9
i thought it was funny. On Oct 5, 2006, at 5:43 PM, Ammon Lauritzen wrote: On 10/5/06, Ammon Lauritzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, I thought I was clearer than that. By without swfobject I meant that I had also tried manually as well: And yes, now that I look back on it, I realise that my poor attempt at humor might not have parsed very well visually... but shrug. Ammon ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Google Adsense in Flash ...
the answer I always give is this: sure, it's possible to use javascript to extract the links and information that is in your adsense stuff, and put it into your flash movie. this is just javascript reading html and sending it to your flash movie. but the real question is: does it violate google's adsense terms. and while I haven't read the terms myself, I do believe that other people have, and they have determined that this is against the terms of service for adsense. so even if you do hack it together, google will probably just cancel your account anyway. On Sep 27, 2006, at 11:54 AM, hank williams wrote: On 9/27/06, Ryan Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He is saying you may not need to use flash to read in the adwords and just float a div above flash and put the google adwords in the div. Every time this question gets asked, the answer is well you could do this... But the question was has anybody successfully incorporated Google Adsense Ads into their site. It is of course, interesting to hear how people *think* they would do it. But it is far different to speculate than to do it. And I personally would love to hear from someone that has *actually tried* to do it and what the issues they encountered were. The devil is in the details. And as with all code, those details cannot be discovered by just thinking about it. Regards Hank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank williams Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:34 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Google Adsense in Flash ... But what are the alternatives to google adwords - particularly in the flash world. Or are you just saying money may not be necessary. Or perhaps get money some other way? Bank robbery perhaps? I still dont get it. On 9/27/06, slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i.e.: find an alternative! -Scott On 9/27/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/27/06, slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's not possible, it may also not be necessary... ? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Associate clip with class
that article was only meant for assigning a class to your _root timeline... I don't think he intended it to be used for other movieclips in the library or on stage. for that you could just use the linkage in the library or use Object.registerClass() On Sep 19, 2006, at 4:29 PM, slangeberg wrote: I was looking at Danny's article regarding a Flash Document Class at: http://www.dannypatterson.com/Resources/Blog/EntryDetail.cfm?id=106 And i started to wonder if people are using this to associate their clips on stage with a class? Are people doing this kind of thing (or otherwise) instead of setting the AS 2.0 class property in the 'linkage' dialog of their movieclips in the library? I just hate how it's not obvious (by linkage) which class is being used in Flash 8.0. Only gets me more excited for some Flash 9.0 projects to come through! : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Associate clip with class
it does work in flash 8. as for clips on the stage, it does work, you just have to give the clip a linkage ID in the library first, and use that linkage to register the class to it. On Sep 19, 2006, at 5:31 PM, slangeberg wrote: Does Object.registerClass() work in Flash 8 (i haven't been able to get it to work)? Also, does that allow you to register more than one clip with a class? The documentation seems to point to using the Linkage setting for AS2: * Availability: *ActionScript 1.0; Flash Player 6 - If you are using ActionScript 2.0 classes, you can use the ActionScript 2.0 Class field in the Linkage Properties or Symbol Properties dialog box to associate an object with a class instead of using this method. Also, I don't think it works for clips that you've dragged to the stage: When an instance of the specified movie clip symbol is created by using MovieClip.attachMovie() or MovieClip.duplicateMovieClip(), it is registered to the class specified by theClass Scott On 9/19/06, Geoff Stearns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that article was only meant for assigning a class to your _root timeline... I don't think he intended it to be used for other movieclips in the library or on stage. for that you could just use the linkage in the library or use Object.registerClass() On Sep 19, 2006, at 4:29 PM, slangeberg wrote: I was looking at Danny's article regarding a Flash Document Class at: http://www.dannypatterson.com/Resources/Blog/EntryDetail.cfm?id=106 And i started to wonder if people are using this to associate their clips on stage with a class? Are people doing this kind of thing (or otherwise) instead of setting the AS 2.0 class property in the 'linkage' dialog of their movieclips in the library? I just hate how it's not obvious (by linkage) which class is being used in Flash 8.0. Only gets me more excited for some Flash 9.0 projects to come through! : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- : : ) Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] SWFObject 2.0: What new features do you want?
Hey all, I'm working on what will become SWFObject 2.0 (need to update it to support as3 Express Install stuff) and I wanted to get ideas for new features. It currently works fine, and there aren't too many obvious things that could be added, but I wanted to ask and see what sort of 'killer' feature you might want to see in it. So if you are using it and find it lacking in any area, let me know what you would change or add to it. Speak up! So far the only major change is how the Express Install functionality works - because of AS3 I have to put that stuff in a separate swf, so it will be much easier for you all to add that functionality to your site. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] HTML in XML
you just need to put the html content inside a cdata tag: newsitem date=8/5/2006 headline=Some headline![CDATA[ Body of the news article. a href=http://www.google.com;Google/a More body of the article/newsitem newsitem date=8/1/2006 headline=Another headlineBody of the second article ]]/newsitem On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Burns, John D wrote: I'm having a very weird problem and I'm hoping it's something simple that I'm overlooking. I have an xml document similar to this: news newsitem date=8/5/2006 headline=Some headlineBody of the news article. a href=http://www.google.com;Google/a More body of the article/newsitem newsitem date=8/1/2006 headline=Another headlineBody of the second article/newsitem /news The problem I'm having is that on the first article where the link is, flash is seeing that as the end of the first node and then it skips to the next one. I'm looping over the nodes in news and using this code: trace(newsNode.childNodes[i].firstChild.nodeValue); and all I would see for the first record is Body of the news article and then it goes on to the next one. A client is maintaining news through a flat xml file and wants to be able to add links. Am I missing something simple? Is there something else I need to do? Please help. John Burns ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] how to set the root directory - swf vs html?
this is why i don't like putting my swf and html in different directories... try using the base attribute On Aug 8, 2006, at 11:04 AM, quinrou . wrote: Hi, My HTML and my flash movie live in 2 different directories. So when I work in the flash IDE my swf can load all its assets but when I try to use that same swf via its HTML page the swf can't find its assets. Because it now has its root as the html root. I am pretty sure there's a work around to define the swf directory as the root not the html. thanks seb ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] ExternalInterface, embed tag and IE
the short answer is you probably just need to give the embed tag an Id attribute. the long answer is: why can't you use an object tag? that makes absolutely no sense at all. even more: you should be using a Javascript solution like SWFObject anyway, since that will skip the 'click to activate' stuff and handle your plugin detection and all that for you. On Jul 31, 2006, at 9:57 PM, Vishal Kapur wrote: Hello, I am trying to use ExternalInterface on a flash movie loaded via an embed tag in Internet Explorer. (For specific reasons I do not want to use the object tag and I can't use firefox). I have set allowScriptAccess=always and I have specified the 'name' attribute. However, when I try to call an AS function from javascript on this object I get an error like Object does not support this property or method. My embed tag looks something like: embed name=testMovie type=application/x-shockwave-flash src=testMovie.swf allowScriptAccess=always /embed The AS function I want to call is exposed via ExternalInterface.addCallback(). Also I do not have the issue if I use an object tag to load the swf. Has anyone faced this issue before? Any thoughts/pointers would be appreciated. Thanks, Vishal ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Express Install is reliable?
There was mention on the SWFObject list that the expressinstall servers were being hit pretty hard right now because myspace (the #1 site on the internet traffic wise) started requiring Flash Player 9, and are using expressinstall... so there's thousands (millions?) of people upgrading right now and for the past couple of weeks. just gotta wait for adobe to either add more servers or for the flow of upgrades to settle down a bit. On Jul 31, 2006, at 4:11 PM, orange wrote: Hi, I have been implementing the Express Install feature on my site for the last few days, and after extensively testing it, I have found some of the servers it relays on are intermittently not available. It really fails very often. I have tested this for several days, on different browsers, and using the default playerProductInstall.swf, and customizing it. The result is always the same a good percentage of the times (maybe more than 50% I would say): The Express Install dialog comes up as expected, with the spining circle, then is says 'Connecting... and it stays there for as long as you wait. If it fails and you immediately try again it usually fails again. You have to try at a later time, like 20-30 minutes later and see if it works then. I have noticed a similar unreliability on some pages at the old macromedia website (the problem is usually that it can't connect to the server). Does anybody have experienced this problem. Could you test it on your site, or here: http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/expressinstall.html (you need an older flash player) I have also just tested this url: http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer (which is often included as the embed tag pluginspage url), and this fails as well (cannot find server) Please let me know if it works in your tests. Thank you very much Orange ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Multiple instances of ExternalInterface in IE
hey, here's an update (and a fix) to this issue:
it looks like (as you pointed out) it is a bug in the new fp9 - this
code was added in to fix an issue in IE with streaming media... if
you were using flash media server to stream video, and left the page
while the video was playing, the audio would keep going. this only
happened in ie5 or 6 when you used innerHTML to insert the swf into
the page - something more and more people are now doing because of
the Eolas stuff.
so to fix this, you had to clear our all the functions that the flash
player inserted into the page, to allow IE to do proper cleanup on
the activex control.
I came up with a fix a few weeks back after discussing it a bit with
an adobe engineer, and my fix was very similar to this one (it was
integrated into SWFObject 1.4.2).
So naturally when fp9 came out, they wanted to include the fix with
it, and did, but apparently the code isn't all that great.
Anyway, long story short, we've been working on a fix today and I
just uploaded the new version of SWFObject to my SVN repository, and
it looks like it takes care of the problem. it basically just removes
the Adobe code that the player inserts and uses some custom code to
clean up the controls instead.
have a look, let me know if you have any problems with it:
I haven't made a tag for it yet, so just grab it from the trunk folder:
http://svn.deconcept.com/swfobject/trunk/
On Jul 5, 2006, at 12:47 AM, Alexis Glass wrote:
In absence of a response, I thought I'd post more results from my
investigation. Debugging IE's scripts, we come across the culprit
- ExternalInterface saves the previous unload handler and installs
its own. Its own unload handler calls the saved unload handler
after freeing up all its resources. Pity that it saves the
previous unload handler in a global variable so that if
ExternalInterface is initialized twice on one page it recursively
calls the __flash_savedUnloadHandler until IE complains about no
memory.
As Brad Neuberg wrote in his blog about ExternalInterface's broken
XML implementation (http://codinginparadise.org/weblog/
2006_02_03_archive.html), In general, whoever coded
ExternalInterface should be fired. Well, or whoever signed off
on it :( On the up side, I guess it should be possible (if not
exactly future-proof) to overwrite the default
__flash_unloadHandler behaviour.
---
function __flash_unloadHandler() {
myflash_object.style.display = 'none';
for (var prop in myflash_object) {
if (typeof(myflash_object[prop]) == function) {
myflash_object[prop]=null;
}
}
if (__flash_savedUnloadHandler != null) {
__flash_savedUnloadHandler();
}
}
function __flash_setupUnloadHandler() {
if (window.onunload != __flash_unloadHandler) {
__flash_savedUnloadHandler = window.onunload;
window.onunload = __flash_unloadHandler;
}
}
--
Alexis Glass wrote:
I have two entirely separate SWFs on a page, both using
ExternalInterface to interface with my JavaScript. Things seemed
just fine under Firefoxi, but under IE I get an Out of memory at
line: 56 error following a really long delay when the page is
unloaded as I try to navigate to another page. This only happens
when both SWFs are displayed on the page at the same time. They
both have different IDs set in their object tags and are realized
from entirely separate SWFs, so I don't see why there should be
any conflict by including both on one page...
I don't seem to be the only person to have encountered this
problem (http://blog.deconcept.com/2006/05/18/flash-player-bug-
streaming-content-innerhtml-ie/ ), but I haven't been able to find
a solution mentioned anywhere. Has anyone else encountered this
problem -- or, better yet, found a solution?
Thanks (fingers crossed)
Alexis
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Re: [Flashcoders] Back button fun
it's been on my list for months now... i did create one, but it was a bit buggy and not documented at all - http://blog.deconcept.com/code/historymanager/ and there's changes to this I wanted to make, so it does more friendly looking hashes, instead of name/value pairs as it does now... and it doesn't work in safari (only one does that i know of, and it doesn't support page title updates). I was trying to modify this one from kevin newman: http://www.unfocus.com/projects/HistoryKeeper/ because it sorta works in safari, but i kept running into more and more problems... so my patience finally gave out. the lessrain guys also have really nice solution they use (and they use it with swfobject,too), so check out their blog and see what they say about it. On Jul 25, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Paul Neave wrote: This is an age-old problem but I still can't find a decent solution. I'm looking for a JavaScript library or script for browser back-button support for Flash, and one that uses the hash notation in the browser window so users can navigate to points in a Flash movie through the address bar, e.g. mypage.html#page123. There are so many about and they all seem to be overly complex, use Flash 5 code, require twenty different JavaScript files and two or three hours to get your head around what it is exactly you're supposed to do to get it to work, and even then it'll only work in Internet Explorer 5.5 on a Tuesday morning. I'm using SWFObject and Flash 8, so a simple, easy to use, drag and drop back button functionality would be ideal. Anybody know of such a beautiful thing? Thanks lorry loads. Paul. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Back button fun
Do you think you'll carry on development on it? yeah eventually... i haven't had much time lately for stuff like this, but it's at the top of my 'would be nice to have...' list. On Jul 25, 2006, at 3:53 PM, Paul Neave wrote: On 25/07/06, Geoff Stearns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i did create one, but it was a bit buggy and not documented at all - http://blog.deconcept.com/code/historymanager/ This looks really great Geoff. The nice thing about it is that it's just one js file and only a few lines of code to get it to work, just the way SWFObject is. Although it may not be as compatible as most at the moment it's simple and simplicity wins for me every time. Do you think you'll carry on development on it? Paul. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] detect request from Flash Player?
no, but you could fake it by appending something to your requests, like so: http://www.example.com/loadstuff.php?reqfrom=swf On Jun 19, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Mike Lyda wrote: I can use PHP ( echo($_SERVER[HTTP_USER_AGENT]); ) to detect a request from the Flash IDE or from Central. Both show a user agent of Shockwave Flash. However, when I open a standard Flash SWF in the web browser either embedded in an HTML page or just opening the SWF directly in the browser PHP sees the user agent as the browser. So is there a way to tell if a request to the server is coming from the Flash Player? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug
that's not really accurate... you can have the flash inserted as the page loads and not have to activate it. the requirement is that it's written by an external script, and not invoked natively by the browser (and plain html). it doesn't matter if it's done onload or inline as the page is loading. the solution to all of this is to just use one of the many js solutions that don't have issues like this. if you can't use javascript for some reason (which should never be the case), then be prepared to force your customers to click to activate the control. On Jun 14, 2006, at 5:19 PM, ryanm wrote: There's no magic there, the embedded object cannot exist prior to the onload event firing or it will require activation. Period. Don't use a delay, use the onload event. A delay is unpredictable because you are working on the client side, where bandwidth, network congestion, and the size of the images and other files loaded into the page will cause the amount of time before the onload event fires to vary drastically. To state that more clearly, you will *never* accomplish this in any predictable way using a time delay, not even if you make the delay over 1 minute, because somewhere there is still a guy using a 14.4 modem. ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug
you have to use an external script because of the way the patent was worded.. by using an external script, you are somehow not infringing on it, so that's how the patch works. On Jun 15, 2006, at 11:09 AM, 8ball Developer wrote: Hi Karina, (probably already answered question) Why does the javascript need to be external? Is there any solution to this problem that uses an internal javascript. Thanks in Advance. On 6/14/06, Karina Steffens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alec, You could try ObjectSwap on my blog - http://www.neo-archaic.net/blog/2006/04/25/objectswap.htm Karina ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug
also i might as well take this opportunity to point everyone to SWFObject: http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/ it fixes all the eolas problems you are having, it's really easy to use, supports express install, does plugin detection and can provide alternate content, opens your wine bottles and tin cans, and gives you a massage at the end of a long day. check it out. On Jun 15, 2006, at 11:09 AM, 8ball Developer wrote: Hi Karina, (probably already answered question) Why does the javascript need to be external? Is there any solution to this problem that uses an internal javascript. Thanks in Advance. On 6/14/06, Karina Steffens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alec, You could try ObjectSwap on my blog - http://www.neo-archaic.net/blog/2006/04/25/objectswap.htm Karina ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug
there's a number of known issues with it... maybe this is the problem? http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=4f91f9b8 i have a summary of all the issues related to the eolas stuff here: http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/12/15/internet-explorer-eolas-changes- and-the-flash-plugin/ On Jun 15, 2006, at 11:41 AM, Tom Lee wrote: the solution to all of this is to just use one of the many js solutions that don't have issues like this. If you're referring to the issue I'm reporting, I'm afraid your solution is not immune either. Two out of 3 of my PCs will show the click to activate message if you have cleared your cache and then visited your example pages without restarting your browser first. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Stearns Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:56 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug that's not really accurate... you can have the flash inserted as the page loads and not have to activate it. the requirement is that it's written by an external script, and not invoked natively by the browser (and plain html). it doesn't matter if it's done onload or inline as the page is loading. the solution to all of this is to just use one of the many js solutions that don't have issues like this. if you can't use javascript for some reason (which should never be the case), then be prepared to force your customers to click to activate the control. On Jun 14, 2006, at 5:19 PM, ryanm wrote: There's no magic there, the embedded object cannot exist prior to the onload event firing or it will require activation. Period. Don't use a delay, use the onload event. A delay is unpredictable because you are working on the client side, where bandwidth, network congestion, and the size of the images and other files loaded into the page will cause the amount of time before the onload event fires to vary drastically. To state that more clearly, you will *never* accomplish this in any predictable way using a time delay, not even if you make the delay over 1 minute, because somewhere there is still a guy using a 14.4 modem. ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] geturl:javascript is causing images to not display on IE
it still works fine - same as always.
On May 30, 2006, at 8:58 AM, Christian wrote:
I was under the impression that getURL(javascript:) no longer
worked in Flash 8. Is this incorrect?
Geoff Stearns wrote:
are you making the js call before the page is done loading?
the browser might be treating is as an anchor click and stop
loading the remaining items on the page (this is normal browser
behavior)
since you are using Flash 8, why not use ExternalInterface to make
the call? in IE that will have the player use fscommand
(basically) and i think your images will stop dissapearing. (or
failing to load as the case may be)
On May 28, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Phil Glatz wrote:
I've been experiencing an intermittent problem with a getURL call
back to a javascript function on the page calling an SWF.
I'm using Flash 8, and testing on XP. With Firefox, there is no
issue. With IE 6, I experience the problem about 80% of the
time. This issue is that I have my SWF in a div, with some divs
below it containing some gif images. When I flush the browser's
cache, the images always display. After subsequent page
refreshes (F5), the images usually don't appear (but sometimes do).
I'm using the SWF to display some variable content, filling
dynamic text fields from passed variables. I can also select
from a number of fonts via a passed var. When the font changes,
the div height needed to contain the stage changes. I created an
actionscript function that passes the new calculated height back
to the page via a javascript call:
function resize() {
if (allowResize == true) {
h = Math.ceil(pBody._y+pBody._height)+10;
getURL(javascript:setFlashHeight('wrapper','+h+'););
}
}
The HTML page has the javascript function setFlashHeight() that
resizes the enclosing division for the SWF, via DOM. Like I say,
it all works fine with Firefox, and the HTML and CSS are both
correct.
I first suspected a DOM issue, but I later discovered that if I
added a return statement as the first line of the javascript
function, the problem persisted.
If I comment out the getURL call in the actionscript, my
disappearing image problem goes away. So it appears to be a
Flash issue of some sort, which I'm not understanding.
I've Googled around a bit and can't find anything remotely
related to this problem. I'm on a tight project deadline and am
about to send $99 to Macromedia for a support call. I thought
I'd check with this wise group first to see if this rings any
bells. Is this some sort of known issue with Flash/IE? Driving
me nuts!
thanks, Phil
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Re: [Flashcoders] passing variable from email to flash
yes, just make your links like this: http://www.example.com/path/to/page.html?variable=value replace variable with the name of a variable you want, and 'value' with whatever value you want to pass. then, in your page.html when you embed the flash movie, you can grab the variable from the url string using javascript (or a server side language) and pass it into the flash movie using flashvars. if you use swfobject, it has a little utility that can grab vars from the url and pass them into the movie, so your embed code would look something like this: div id=flashcontent This text is replaced by the Flash movie. /div script type=text/javascript var so = new SWFObject(movie.swf, mymovie, 200, 100, 7, #336699); so.addVariable(variable1, value1); so.write(flashcontent); /script more info on the script: http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/ On May 30, 2006, at 9:06 PM, watch dog barking wrote: I'm not entirely sure if these are flash questions, but here goes... I have a couple of question in regards to passing variables from a link embedded in an email to a flash movie. 1. Is it possible to direct people to a specific frame of a flash movie from an email (i.e. if its one swf, can you put them to specific place on the time line). 2. Not knowing how the flash site is set up yet, is it possible to direct them to a specific place in the timeline and then dynamically load in another swf (let's say each page is its only swf being loaded into a main movie on the 10th frame) 3. Is it possible to pass variables by clicking a link in an email so that the system will know the people who come from the email link are members (all people clicking from the email will likely be members) 4. Do the above scenarios involve server side programming? Essentially we would like user to click from an email to a certain page on a flash site, where after a series of activities they would get the opportunity to perform an activity available to members only. If they come from the email link they will be members, but if they have come from a different part of the site, we won't know whether they are members or not. If they aren't, we would invite them to register to become members. If they are, then they can enter their email address and will be prompted for a password. Of course, we will then need to determine what happens when the email is forwarded, but that will be next for us to sort out. Any information or suggestions would be appreciated. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] geturl:javascript is causing images to not display on IE
are you making the js call before the page is done loading?
the browser might be treating is as an anchor click and stop loading
the remaining items on the page (this is normal browser behavior)
since you are using Flash 8, why not use ExternalInterface to make
the call? in IE that will have the player use fscommand (basically)
and i think your images will stop dissapearing. (or failing to load
as the case may be)
On May 28, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Phil Glatz wrote:
I've been experiencing an intermittent problem with a getURL call
back to a javascript function on the page calling an SWF.
I'm using Flash 8, and testing on XP. With Firefox, there is no
issue. With IE 6, I experience the problem about 80% of the time.
This issue is that I have my SWF in a div, with some divs below it
containing some gif images. When I flush the browser's cache, the
images always display. After subsequent page refreshes (F5), the
images usually don't appear (but sometimes do).
I'm using the SWF to display some variable content, filling dynamic
text fields from passed variables. I can also select from a number
of fonts via a passed var. When the font changes, the div height
needed to contain the stage changes. I created an actionscript
function that passes the new calculated height back to the page via
a javascript call:
function resize() {
if (allowResize == true) {
h = Math.ceil(pBody._y+pBody._height)+10;
getURL(javascript:setFlashHeight('wrapper','+h+'););
}
}
The HTML page has the javascript function setFlashHeight() that
resizes the enclosing division for the SWF, via DOM. Like I say,
it all works fine with Firefox, and the HTML and CSS are both correct.
I first suspected a DOM issue, but I later discovered that if I
added a return statement as the first line of the javascript
function, the problem persisted.
If I comment out the getURL call in the actionscript, my
disappearing image problem goes away. So it appears to be a Flash
issue of some sort, which I'm not understanding.
I've Googled around a bit and can't find anything remotely related
to this problem. I'm on a tight project deadline and am about to
send $99 to Macromedia for a support call. I thought I'd check
with this wise group first to see if this rings any bells. Is this
some sort of known issue with Flash/IE? Driving me nuts!
thanks, Phil
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Re: [Flashcoders] active X activation, no blinkinkg
have you tried SWFObject? http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/ On May 26, 2006, at 6:21 AM, Martin Weiser wrote: Hello guys, i found soullution for active x object activation by js here: http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html but, it had that unpleasant blink (http://cigare1.fatcow.com/ picture_hosting/web_pages/therippa/stuff/activateActiveX/ example.html) i tried to bypass it by hiding in div element: ans you can see it here: http://flash.dna01.net/advertures/banner/tester.htm Do you see it ok, in all browsers? Thanks for help Martin ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
import in flash is only used to save you some typing. when you use import com.package.Class; the class is *not* included in the swf until you reference that class in your code somewhere. like var blah:Class; you don't have to use import, you can also use: var blah:com.package.Class; and it will behave exactly the same way, only every time you reference the class, you'll need to type the full path instead of just 'Class' it's just a typing shortcut. On May 25, 2006, at 2:01 PM, j.c.wichman wrote: Hi, it is included, but not solely becoz of the import statement. I might be wrong, but I believe this is even a 'bug'. Expected behavior: import MyClass causes inclusion of MyClass in the swf Real behavior: import MyClass still requires you to use MyClass somewhere in the code as in var myClass:MyClass, in order for it to be included. Note that we are talking about the Flash IDE here, with mtasc you can include exclude any class you like whether or not it is referenced in the code. greetz Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:25 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. Err...that has not been my understanding at all. If that is the case, then why do you NOT need to include your class files on the server with the .swf? Since reality is you don't, all that code has to be in the .swf upon compiling, otherwise, the .swf wouldn't know what to do with Myvar:MyCoolClass = new MyCoolClass(); If it's not included with the .swf, how would the .swf know what MyCoolClass is otherwise? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:27 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? Errm - actually that's not such a good reason. The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. You could just type com.fred.MyClass throughout the body of your code instead of typing import at the top of the file. 'import' is simply a disambiguation helper for the compiler. It's got nothing to do with what code actually gets included in the resultant .swf. You can prove this by typing: import com.fred.* // Replace with some set of classes you're not using in your current project And recompiling. The .swf file size won't go up until you actually _reference_ an object that belongs to one of those packages. As soon as you typed: var f:MyClass=new MyClass(); or, in fact var f:com.fred.MyClass=new com.fred.MyClass(); The file size would go up. So - in answer to RifledCloaca - no, you don't need to type 'import' at all, as long as you refer to all your classes by full packagename. Ian On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because if Flash imported every class available to it automatically, then your .swf files would be huge and unnecessarily bloated. Do you really want the code to all the Remoting classes imported into your .swf if you're not using them? When you include, the actionscript cotained in the class is embedded in the .swf. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] fp9 ExternalInterface bug?
maybe it's not serializing a value properly? there are a few known issues with it in fp8, mainly newline elements... more info here: http://codinginparadise.org/weblog/2006/02/how-to-speed-up-flash-8s.html On May 16, 2006, at 6:21 PM, eric dolecki wrote: Its been called to my attention at work that sometimes my embedded SWF is making calls out to Python (using ExternalInterface) where the XML document only contains: NaN/invoke And thats it. Could this perhaps be a known bug in the player itself? The syntax itself isn't valid. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Proxy for Express Install
i think setting up your own proxy for express install would be way more trouble than it's worth... you'd have to have every plugin version and do platform sniffing and return the correct plugin for each platform.. then when adobe updates the Flash player, you'll have to update all your stuff... it wouldn't be very much fun. it sounds to me like the DNS hasn't propagated across to some of your DNS servers yet. so as a temporary fix, you could try replacing the fpdownload.macromedia.com in the express install code with the ip address of the server (make sure you get the ip address from a computer that the install works on) i don't recommend this as a permanent fix, but it might work until adobe takes care of their DNS issues. you should also try e-mailing someone over there - the flash developer relations person (i'm not sure who that is anymore) and see if they have any insight into the problem. On Jun 13, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Asai wrote: Adobe still hasn't fixed the problem (it seems to be coming from them anyway) which is preventing me and others from other parts of the country (and world) from being able to download the Flash Player using the express install feature (or simply trying to download it direct from their site). However, when I use our remote server to get it, not from my own personal broadband connection, there is no problem. Does anyone (Geoff Stearns, perhaps?) know how I could rig up the express install code to use our server as a proxy? ---asai ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash detection
here's more info on the second link, and other techniques you can use: http://blog.deconcept.com/2006/03/13/modern-approach-flash-seo/ On May 10, 2006, at 7:45 AM, Michael Stuhr wrote: Kevin Boyd (MMCR) schrieb: Client wants to detect if flash installed and then jump to a HTML based site if not. What is the current state of play with this approach regards IE and Firefox? http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/ufo/ http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/swfobject.html micha ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Trouble with Downloading Flash Player
there were some hiccups last monday / tuesday when they switched to the adobe server, but they were all fixed up as of wednesday i think. you could use this page as another test: http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/expressinstall.html On May 5, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Asai wrote: Is anyone having trouble downloading the Flash Player right now? I'm testing the Express Install Feature but every time I try to go to the fpdownload.macromedia.com page, I get a server not found message. My paths are correct I know, because once I was able to successfully test last night, but that was erratic and in between not found messages. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Trouble with Downloading Flash Player
i just tested it, and the download part worked fine, but when the install was finished, it didn't redirect me back to the original page... they said they were still working on that part on wednesday, so hopefully it will be all fixed soon. On May 5, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Asai wrote: It seems like indigestion. I still can't connect. This can't be internet wide can it? Perhaps its only my neck of the woods, who at Adobe can I report this to? At 09:11 AM 5/5/2006, you wrote: there were some hiccups last monday / tuesday when they switched to the adobe server, but they were all fixed up as of wednesday i think. you could use this page as another test: http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/expressinstall.html On May 5, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Asai wrote: Is anyone having trouble downloading the Flash Player right now? I'm testing the Express Install Feature but every time I try to go to the fpdownload.macromedia.com page, I get a server not found message. My paths are correct I know, because once I was able to successfully test last night, but that was erratic and in between not found messages. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ---asai ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] SWF, IFrame and z-order
try setting the wmode pararmeter on the swf file to 'opaque' that might work. On May 3, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Éric Thibault wrote: I all!!! Here is my little problem : I have an html page that contains, on the left side a list of SWF files and on the right side an iframe to play those SWF. When I click a file on the left, it plays inside the iframe just fine... My client wants to see some informations inside a box on top of the page (centered so that a portion of the list and iframe gets blocked). I can give any z- index number to that info box and the iframe, the flash inside the iframe is always on top If I change the flash for a jpg or text, my info box is on top of everything! Is there a known issue when using SWF inside iframe and z- indez.. :'( I cannot change the source code of that page (I have to keep the iframe and it is used by other projects) but I can manage to include modifications Thanks a million! -- === Éric Thibault Programmeur analyste Réseau de valorisation de l'enseignement Université Laval, pavillon Félix-Antoine Savard Québec, Canada Tel.: 656-2131 poste 18015 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Avis relatif à la confidentialité / Notice of Confidentiality / Advertencia de confidencialidad http://www.rec.ulaval.ca/lce/ securite/confidentialite.htm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Can this be true?
try bumping it up to 31fps and see how it works then. i'm getting about 24 on my browser (firefox on osx 10.4) On May 2, 2006, at 10:37 AM, Michael Kønig wrote: At this link there is a swf embeded in a html with a 5 line script that measures fps: http://www.fla10.com/test/test.html The movie is set to 30 fps but plays at around 23 and I have a good computer! Does flash automatically loose this much power and I just never noticed?? What numbers are you guys getting? /Michael ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] flashObject expressinstall error
looks like the download url is fixed now, but the redirect after the install is done isn't working yet... On May 1, 2006, at 3:38 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote: Adobe is changing the dns/severs that the expressinstall lives on... and they are having some issues with it right now. i'd recomment just disabling the expressinstall until it's fixed (hopefully soon). On May 1, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Karina Steffens wrote: Hi Tony, Just a shot in the dark, but it could be because the link to the flash player has changed. It's now http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi? P1_Prod_Version=Shockwa veFlashpromoid=BIOW I think Adobe has just closed down the macromedia website. www.macromedia.com is redirected to www.adobe.com Karina -Original Message- From: Tony Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 May 2006 19:19 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] flashObject expressinstall error I'm using flashObject with express install. Worked fine last Friday, but this morning I'm getting the little Flash dialog box with the message A download error occurred. Try to download again? Same error in ie pc, safari and firefox mac. I¹ve now confirmed this with someone else. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] HTML templates in Flash
this page has a list of all the stuff: http://www.123flashchat.com/flash/20_publish16.html On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Alejandro Diaz wrote: Hello again everyone, Does anyone know of any documentation or explanation about some of the variables in the Flash HTML template files? For example, the actual name of the file is sent through a variable named $PO, but I seem to be unable to find anything regarding how to break this down (since this variable apparently has a whole bunch of code in it, not just the file name) and edit the file name. I am basically trying to create a couple of HTML templates that have a ?myVariable=myValue after the .swf, and I can't seem to find any documentation or any other information online on how to do this. Thanks in advance! -Alex ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] HTML templates in Flash
you should use flashvars instead of the .swf? - that way your swf will be cached properly and you don't have any limits (or at least much higher limits) than the query string. On Apr 27, 2006, at 2:48 PM, Alejandro Diaz wrote: Thanks! the explanation of some of those variables and a bit of thinking got me to do exactly what I wanted. In case anyone is interested, what I ended up doing is just doing away with using $PO and $PE and building the file name using $TI and adding .swf? plus the variables I am trying to pass. I had to add in some of the other parameters in that list that were part of $PO/E, like quality, etc. but that link you sent me had the information I needed for that. Thanks! -Alex On 4/27/06, Geoff Stearns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this page has a list of all the stuff: http://www.123flashchat.com/flash/20_publish16.html ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] HTML templates in Flash
oh and you should use swfobject to embed your stuff anyway :) http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/ On Apr 27, 2006, at 3:41 PM, Alejandro Diaz wrote: y, it always remain very short). But I will certainly take your advice ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Font jumping cross platform
i've seen a jsfl that you can run to move all the text fields in a movie up/down .. but other than that i think you are screwed. (or maybe you could use a different font?) On Apr 26, 2006, at 11:11 AM, Kevin Newman wrote: Hello, I don't know if this is the right place for this kind of question, but I have an problem where if I use a font (either a crossplatform opentype, or a crossfont converted font) in an fla, then move that fla from a Mac to a Windows, all the text elements move down on the screen by a few pixels. The opposite problem exists if I move it from Windows to Mac (it moves up). This is only a problem in the IDE - published files are fine (well once I correct the positioning problem in the IDE anyway). Has anyone seen this problem or found a solution? This problem only exists in Flash it seems, since if I load the same fonts in Photoshop (or just about anything else) I don't have any problems at all. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Font jumping cross platform
i found this link from a cached page in google: http://www.slice-media.com/jsfl/pixelShift.mxp it's supposed to be the jsfl that shifts your textfields so you don't have to do it manually. link: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache: 9lKfRcMTFOwJ:www.eyezberg.com/Breaking_News_from_the_Flash_World/ Components_(mxp_packages)/Shift_all_textfields/+jsfl+font+shift +flashhl=engl=usct=clnkcd=2 On Apr 26, 2006, at 11:39 AM, Kevin Newman wrote: This seems to happen with any OpenType font (most of them from Fontfolio OpenType), and possibly means with all PostScript outline fonts, since it happens with OpenType and converted fonts (from mac). I really think this is a bug in Flash, since as I've mentioned, I don't have a problem with any other software using these fonts. Oh well, I guess I'm stuck moving the fonts up and down. :-( Thanks, Kevin N. Geoff Stearns wrote: i've seen a jsfl that you can run to move all the text fields in a movie up/down .. but other than that i think you are screwed. (or maybe you could use a different font?) On Apr 26, 2006, at 11:11 AM, Kevin Newman wrote: Hello, I don't know if this is the right place for this kind of question, but I have an problem where if I use a font (either a crossplatform opentype, or a crossfont converted font) in an fla, then move that fla from a Mac to a Windows, all the text elements move down on the screen by a few pixels. The opposite problem exists if I move it from Windows to Mac (it moves up). This is only a problem in the IDE - published files are fine (well once I correct the positioning problem in the IDE anyway). Has anyone seen this problem or found a solution? This problem only exists in Flash it seems, since if I load the same fonts in Photoshop (or just about anything else) I don't have any problems at all. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and IE update question
you could just use SWFObject - it will work with flash stuff in
layers/divs/whatever.
http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/
(that amerasoftware page links to my blog at the bottom as well as an
alternative)
On Apr 24, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Michael F. Hiatt wrote:
All,
I'm trying to implement the fix to take care of the ActiveX/Flash
activate
issue (using the code found on Amara's site:)
http://www.amarasoftware.com/flash-problem.htm
---
To fix the problem, please follow these steps:
1) Just below the last object in your HTML page, insert the
following
Javascript:
script type=text/javascript src=ieupdate.js/script
2) Open a new document in Notepad or your HTML editor, and copy
paste the
following content into it:
theObjects = document.getElementsByTagName(object);
for (var i = 0; i theObjects.length; i++) { theObjects
[i].outerHTML =
theObjects[i].outerHTML; }
3) Save this file as ieupdate.js
-
This is working fine except when the swf is in a layer. The swf
shows up for
a second and then is replaced with undefined
Any ideas on how to make this fix work for swfs in layers would be
appreciated.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Testing ExternalInterface on Windows for me.
i'm just reading this now... but here's how to fix all your problems:
1) as for 'getting the movie' - since you are using FlashObject, it's
really easy, just use document.getElementById();
once you call fo.write() you can get the reference to the movie and
you don't have to get it again - no sense in running that every time
you call a function.
normally i'll embed the flash movie inline in the page, then put the
externalinterface initialization stuff in an onload event. that way
you know the flash movie will be there, and it gives all the other
elements on the page time to load as well.
2) the form issue is a sort of known issue - there's a lot of
problems when placing the flash movie inside a form, although i
haven't heard of issues with placing it before vs. after.
read the comments on the livedocs here:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/8/main/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/
html/wwhelp.htm?context=LiveDocs_Partsfile=2200.html
and maybe try some googling for more info.
On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:35 PM, David Rorex wrote:
Instead of creating a reference to your flash movie and storing it, I
get it every time.
JS Code:
function getMovie(movieName) {
if (navigator.appName.indexOf(Microsoft) != -1) {
return window[movieName]
}
else {
return document[movieName]
}
}
Example usage in JS:
getMovie('myMovie').someFunctionInFlash();
-David R
On 4/18/06, Aaron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark, Ryan,
Thanks for the input. I looked at that other guys ExternalInterface
testing. I switched all of my code to follow what he is doing. I am
still getting IE errors. I can't figure out what is going on. IE
doesn't like calling methods on the flash object for some reason.
When it calls ( flashMovieScroller.gotoStepFromJS(num) ) it errors
out. Why would it be doing that for my methods and not Geoff's
methods. Weird!.
take a look again at this. Look at the update JS and HTML compared to
that other guys. See if there's anything you notice that might be
wrong.
http://www.smithaaronlee.net/jstest/ImgScrollerTEST333.html
The only thing I haven't tried yet was rearranging the flash objects
on the page to see if that helps. I guess i'll give that a try
thanks for taking the time.
-Smith
On Apr 18, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Mark Llobrera wrote:
Ryan:
When testing locally with Windows/IE, you can set allowScriptAccess
to 'always' - it'll save you having to upload to a server.
Aaron:
I was stalled with ExternalInterface myself yesterday; I had the
hardest time getting it to work on the Windows/IE combo. The
included samples from Macromedia didn't work, and several others on
the web didn't work either. Other browsers (Firefox, Safari/Firefox
on the Mac) worked fine. Since I was using flashobject to embed
the swf, I wandered over to Geoff Stearns's blog and found this
example: http://blog.deconcept.com/code/externalinterface.html. I
eventually ended up taking that html (since it worked on Win/IE)
and using it as the basis for my html page, just so I could figure
out what was wrong. I found two things different between my page
that didn't work and the deconcept example:
If you look at the code on that page the reference to the flash
movie isn't initialized until the entire page is loaded. That would
be the first place I would look.
The second thing I learned yesterday (and this is where it starts
to devolve into voodoo) is that the order of items on the page
matters greatly (but seemingly only on Win/IE). I was calling a
flash movie from a javascript function triggered by a form button
(http://www.dirtystylus.com/sandbox/feedroom/filebrowser/
file_browser.html - an attempt to feed an flv on a local filesystem
to a video object). When the form was placed before embedding the
swf, it didn't work on Win/IE. As soon as I moved the form after
the embedded swf in the html code, it worked. Extremely weird.
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ryan
Potter
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:19 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Testing ExternalInterface on Windows for
me.
I get the same as you. I looked at the external interface code
that I
have and the only difference I can see is I have swLiveConnect
set to
true but I don't think that is it.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Aaron
Smith
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:46 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Testing ExternalInterface on Windows for
me.
Yes I tried it out on yours and my server. works just fine. Now have
a look at this. on Firefox and IE: ( http://www.smithaaronlee.net/
jstest/ImgScrollerTEST.html )
It works in firefox like it should. But in IE it doesn't work
completely. I'm having troubles figuring out what is wrong in
IE, IE
throws errors when you click on a
Re: [Flashcoders] Again with the wmode
flash satay is bad news - it breaks your params sometimes (in older safari versions) and JAWS will ignore your flash content. you should use something like FlashObject instead*. or SWFObject, etc. etc. http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/ On Apr 21, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Karina Steffens wrote: You can also try the alternative web standards solution, that does not require an embed tag at all to work with firefox and other non-ie browsers: object data=movie.swf type=application/x-shockwave-flash codebase=http://www.yourdomain.com; width=620 height=350 param name=movie value=movie.swf / param name=menu value=false / param name=wmode value=transparent / param name=quality value=best / pAlternative content if flash is not present/p /object There's an example on my home page: www.neo-archaic.net I've been using this a lot lately, as it also creates a lot more lightweight code. Karina -Original Message- From: Merrill, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 April 2006 19:27 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Again with the wmode NEVERMIND - looks like we just needed to also add wmode to the embed tags as well... looks like our developer has it working now. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:21 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Again with the wmode I know this has been asked and answered a kagillion times, but I can't seem to get a definitive answer in my searches: The whole DHTML layer, browser, and flash object wmode thing - we can get our DHTML layer to show over the top of our flash piece (which contains some solid background images with animations) in IE using wmode=transparent and Flash on layer1, but not Firefox, Netscape or Opera - I KNEW (or at least I thought I knew) this had been a problem already and that there hadn't been a workaround, but then I saw this article: http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=E5141 It says, It's not uncommon to hear developers complaining that their DHTML menus, when triggered, have dropped behind the Flash movie below them. It's also not uncommon to hear, that's just how they work. Before Flash Player 6, that was true in many browsers. But nowadays, it's become urban legend With Flash Player 6, Macromedia introduced windowless mode for Netscape and Mac OS X So can we do it or not? And if so how? Right now we have to do some browser detection and then render out either the Flash or the image. Thanks, Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e- mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] New wrinkle in IE activation issue...
as i stated in another mail in another thread, using the 'object tag only' methods is very buggy and can cause lots of headaches... JAWS will not read the Flash content, and some older browser will ignore the param tags, so you can't use flashvars or specifiy wmode or other parameters. there's more info here: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/accessibility/archives/2005/08/ in_search_of_a.cfm On Apr 21, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Karina Steffens wrote: Hiya, Great work to you and Kevin. I'm writing a little tutorial about my solution which I intend to place on my blog as soon as it's done. The version detection was the last bit that I wanted to get sorted first, and it seems to be working like a charm. Regarding the display:none issue - I've changed my code from visibility to display and noticed an interesting thing. Some background first: I'm using a standards compatible version of the object tag: object data=flash/home.swf type=application/x-shockwave-flash codebase=http://www.neo-archaic.net; width=620 height=350 param name=movie value=flash/home.swf / param name=menu value=false / param name=wmode value=transparent / param name=quality value=best / pAlternative content if flash is not present/p /object This works well on both ie and Mozilla based browsers without needing to use the embed tag. The downside is that the movie waits until it's loaded before it starts to play. On IE this results in a placeholder showing up briefly before the content is loaded. When I use the visibility:hidden style with the replaceFlash script and reload the page locally, I don't see the placeholder because it disappears before the content is replaced (the original object having loaded by then). But when I change it to the display:none style, it appears again before the movie starts playing. This could mean that display:none does prevent the flash from loading after all! What do you think? Karina -Original Message- From: elibol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 April 2006 19:18 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] New wrinkle in IE activation issue... Hi Karina, Kevin Newman deserves the credit, I've just written some of the code. Great work though, I'm very happy to have a little team working on this problem now. I'm sure we will solve it soon enough. I think Geoff mentioned that display:none does not prevent the object from loading, Ryan further validates this by giving us a clear idea of how html documents function, so, we should continue under the assumption that if the object is defined in the original document then it will always load. M. On 4/21/06, Karina Steffens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... I'm not sure if you can do that, but what about using an intermediate stub? Then you could communicate with and tell it when to load the main content. This might even work automatically, with one of the object replacement techniques. Or... Here's a thought - what if the style for the object starts with display:none for the object, and then changes to display:block when the page has loaded. display: none removes the element from the document's flow, while visibility:hidden simply makes it invisible. Do you think this might do the trick? Karina -Original Message- From: Kevin Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 April 2006 18:48 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] New wrinkle in IE activation issue... Sorry to reply to myself, but I was thinking that if it is possible to detect when an object is added to the dom tree, then I could just replace the object before it gets a chance to load, so I guess I wouldn't need to disable it. So now I guess the question is if it is possible to detect when an object is added... Kevin N. Kevin Newman wrote: Well yeah, that's what I would usually do, but that doesn't solve the specific problem I'm looking to solve here (I'm not concerned with the merits of this solution, I really just want to see if I can make it work). If I could figure out how to detect when a new object tag has been added to the dom (I have some ideas, but have not tested them), then use some method call to disable it completely, I'd be satisfied with that. There is a disabled property, but I don't think that stops it from loading, I think that just stops the interactivity - is that correct? If so, does anyone know of a way to completely turn off an embedded object in IE? Thanks, Kevin N. ryanm wrote: Do you happen to know of any way to either stop a loading activex or to prevent it from loading? Yes, don't write it to the page until you are ready for it to load. HTML is stateless, it's either there or it isn't. If it's there, it will load, if it's not, it won't. Use DHTML to add the tag to the page when you are ready for it to start loading. ryanm
Re: [Flashcoders] New wrinkle in IE activation issue...
you could do this with flashobject really easily. just call fo.write() whenever you want and it will replace the object you target with your flash movie. On Apr 20, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Kevin Newman wrote: I prefer solutions that try to hide IE's lack of conformity, like Dean Edwards's IE 7 script: http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/ There are just too many installations to realistically ignore them. Speaking of hacking on IE, is there a way to prevent an object from loading? By that I mean, I want to use Object tags to embed a Swf, but I don't want it to download or load in the background until I tell it to via a script interaction (vbscript or javascript). Will hiding it via css do the trick, or will I need to take further steps to keep it from loading? Thanks, Kevin N. elibol wrote: Maybe web developers should stop making sites that work with IE. On 4/20/06, Chad Mefferd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ditto On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:45 AM, Zárate wrote: Maybe it's time for Adobe to start promoting the use of Firefox/alternative web browsers... Bye! On 4/20/06, Stephen Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said Lee. Microsoft has taken their own initiative to include Active X, Object, Embed activation in their latest IE patch. Has nothing to do with a court ruling. Can only be an attempt to make life more difficult for Adobe.___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] New wrinkle in IE activation issue...
doesn't this method break flashvars and other params? On Apr 20, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Kevin Newman wrote: I didn't want to have to redefine all the stuff that has already been defined in the html object. So I made this: :-) http://www.unfocus.com/projects/PatentMagic/ A super tiny js file include and a stylesheet takes care of all object activation. It's a bit brute force, but it should get the job done if you are looking for a quick fix and are using static embedded html. If anyone has any ideas on how to make this more robust, please let me know. :-) Kevin N. Geoff Stearns wrote: you could do this with flashobject really easily. just call fo.write() whenever you want and it will replace the object you target with your flash movie. On Apr 20, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Kevin Newman wrote: I prefer solutions that try to hide IE's lack of conformity, like Dean Edwards's IE 7 script: http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/ There are just too many installations to realistically ignore them. Speaking of hacking on IE, is there a way to prevent an object from loading? By that I mean, I want to use Object tags to embed a Swf, but I don't want it to download or load in the background until I tell it to via a script interaction (vbscript or javascript). Will hiding it via css do the trick, or will I need to take further steps to keep it from loading? Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] New wrinkle in IE activation issue...
there's been a couple other people sending scripts around that do the exact same thing as yours, but IE handles inner/outerHTML very poorly, so I think it drops the param tags inside the object tag... or something like that. On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Kevin Newman wrote: You know, I actually didn't check it out that thoroughly. I'll take a look some time. Why would it break params, if you happen to know off hand? Thanks. :-) Kevin N. Geoff Stearns wrote: doesn't this method break flashvars and other params? On Apr 20, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Kevin Newman wrote: I didn't want to have to redefine all the stuff that has already been defined in the html object. So I made this: :-) http://www.unfocus.com/projects/PatentMagic/ A super tiny js file include and a stylesheet takes care of all object activation. It's a bit brute force, but it should get the job done if you are looking for a quick fix and are using static embedded html. If anyone has any ideas on how to make this more robust, please let me know. :-) Kevin N. Geoff Stearns wrote: you could do this with flashobject really easily. just call fo.write() whenever you want and it will replace the object you target with your flash movie. On Apr 20, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Kevin Newman wrote: I prefer solutions that try to hide IE's lack of conformity, like Dean Edwards's IE 7 script: http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/ There are just too many installations to realistically ignore them. Speaking of hacking on IE, is there a way to prevent an object from loading? By that I mean, I want to use Object tags to embed a Swf, but I don't want it to download or load in the background until I tell it to via a script interaction (vbscript or javascript). Will hiding it via css do the trick, or will I need to take further steps to keep it from loading? Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] New wrinkle in IE activation issue...
If anyone is interested, I gave a presentation to the minnesota flash user group last night about FlashObject, and it included a bit of Eolas info in it. it was basically a general rundown of the benefits of using FlashObject and a primer for getting started using it. view it here: http://mmusergroup.breezecentral.com/p64707124/ (had a couple small technical issues, but i think it still turned out ok :)) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] New wrinkle in IE activation issue...
setting display:none won't stop anything from loading, so it will load twice. (or load part way and then load again, etc.) On Apr 21, 2006, at 1:08 AM, Kevin Newman wrote: I change it so that it might work on all Objects. :-) http://www.unfocus.com/projects/PatentMagic/ I took care of that loading forever bug too. Does anyone know if setting display:none on an object prevents it from loading? If not, then double loading is the only thing left to take care of. Nice coding btw. Kevin N. elibol wrote: I've modified it to transfer FlashVars http://anticipatechange.com/huseyin/patentMagic/ On 4/20/06, Kevin Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I'm doing to try and keep the objects from loading is defining all objects with display:none - is there a more reliable way to prevent objects from loading in the background? I took a quick look on msdn for some ActiveX magic method, but wasn't able to find anything. It looks like it does loose the values of some of the params unfortunately. If there is a way around that, I'd be happy to implement it. Kevin N. elibol wrote: It doesn't seem to Geoff, I tested it with a 100%x100% object: http://anticipatechange.com/huseyin/shifty.html The object tag has noscale params, there is one problem though, it seems as if the replaced objects appear to still be loading from the browsers perspective. Besides this, seems like a reliable exploit so far. Nice job Kevin. M. On 4/20/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it make sense for this to work with all Active X Objects? The idea is to override object activation by rewriting the objects after the document is loaded? Is this a hole in the activation process, where it will only force activation when the page is being initialized? Objects written after the page is loaded slip through? M. On 4/20/06, Kevin Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't want to have to redefine all the stuff that has already been defined in the html object. So I made this: :-) http://www.unfocus.com/projects/PatentMagic/ A super tiny js file include and a stylesheet takes care of all object activation. It's a bit brute force, but it should get the job done if you are looking for a quick fix and are using static embedded html. If anyone has any ideas on how to make this more robust, please let me know. :-) Kevin N. Geoff Stearns wrote: you could do this with flashobject really easily. just call fo.write() whenever you want and it will replace the object you target with your flash movie. On Apr 20, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Kevin Newman wrote: I prefer solutions that try to hide IE's lack of conformity, like Dean Edwards's IE 7 script: http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/ There are just too many installations to realistically ignore them. Speaking of hacking on IE, is there a way to prevent an object from loading? By that I mean, I want to use Object tags to embed a Swf, but I don't want it to download or load in the background until I tell it to via a script interaction (vbscript or javascript). Will hiding it via css do the trick, or will I need to take further steps to keep it from loading? Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] New wrinkle in IE activation issue...
In every case i've heard of, checking the 'disable script debugging' has fixed it. If you can reproduce your issue of always having the 'click to activate' box showing up, even when all the known bugs are accounted for, I'm sure Microsoft would like to hear about it. There is also a nice big list of known issues on this page: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912945/en-us/ So if you are still having troubles, have a look. On Apr 19, 2006, at 5:35 PM, ryanm wrote: Ryan you seem to have hacked this problem inside and out with no luck. Could you and others with a solid understanding on this problem explain exactly what has been tried as work arounds? Maybe we can find a solution if we're all caught up with what's already been done. As best as I can tell, it's a bug in the new patch and it's not fixable (except by MS). In some cases, enabling client-side script debugging and rebooting fixes it, in other cases it doesn't. IMO, it's just a buggy update. ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Flash Object vs UFO for flash detection and as eolas workaround
sounds like a very rare edge case to me - but first I have to point out that this isn't an issue with FlashObject, it's an issue with the way ExpressInstall works. There's just too many variables that have to be in place for this to actually be an issue. But there is a way for this to be worked around - when i built FlashObject, I allowed the user to be able to bypass the plugin detection, just add ?detectflash=false to the url and it skips it. This is documented on the FlashObject page and has been a feature since version 1.0. If that really did happen to 5 people in a row, I would think that it may be something specific with that website: Maybe you put it in a popup window, and the page that launched the popup window already had a Flash movie playing in it? It seems to me that this should be a fairly easy issue to work around, and if it's not, then it should be taken up with Adobe through their developer relations people. On Apr 17, 2006, at 7:56 PM, John Grden wrote: Hey Geoff, thanks for the response. I have a question though, and it's not me being a smart-ass or anything -honestly! Ok, open IE6, load a flash site with version 6 of the flash player. Open another instance of IE6, load a different site and do the upgrade to flash 8 (without closing the other browser). After its all said and done, the upgrade never completed and now IE can't create an instance of the FLash object to do version detection OR show the site. The only way to show it, is to hardcode the object tag in an html page - then IE will display the content. Mind you, it doesn't have to be another instance of IE open, it can be anything using the FlashOCX. So, I guess what I'm missing here is the part where JS can't make an object and FlashObject works anyway. Huh? I mean, give me the technical reason *why* I should just use FlashObject anyway, despite the fact that it failed during the Hilton journey's site. There's a fortune 500 company, and it no worky. Now, for the vast majority of users, there probably wasn't a problem, but with the 5 executives who went home to show off their new site to the family, it happened to 100% of them. So, there's no trying to talk them out of what they experienced. In their eyes, 100% failure rate amongst themselves means big problems elsewhere etc. I feel like either I'm missing something fundamental here, or I haven't articulated the problem well enough. Thanks Geoff John On 4/17/06, Geoff Stearns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since nobody really answered this, here you go: Neither one is really 'better' - they both do pretty much exactly the same thing. Some people like the syntax used in FlashObject, some people like the way UFO works instead. Check them both out and pick the one you like better. I'd also like to address some of the concerns about FlashObject: 1) Jim said My only reservation with FlashObject is that it's written in a style that makes it pretty un maintainable. First, I guess I'm not sure why you would need to 'maintain' it. The script is basically just an API for writing the HTML to embed a swf file into an html document. This probably won't change significantly any time soon, so the need to 'maintain' a script like this is non- existent. Second, maybe you were looking at the compressed version? I include a version of the 'source' code that is much easier to read if you are into that. As far as the misc. accusations about FlashObject not being Object Oriented, (Jim said: IMHO, the code is very procedural, not object oriented. The cues for this are the endless conditional statements. A good, encapsulated architecture can greatly minimize these...) I say this: WTF? FlashObject is about os OOP as you can get with Javascript. (and where are the 'endless conditional statements' you speak of?) It's not some compiled language that gets compressed and translated into machine language. FlashObject is also meant to be a *very* small file with one specific task. Comparing it to dojo or other js libraries makes absolutely no sense to me at all. That said, it's very easy to add more functionality to FlashObject because it *is* in fact written in an object oriented fashion (in the style of ECMA script, using prototype). I've written an extension for it for Flash/JS communication and it works great - I haven't officially released it yet, but if anyone is interested in seeing how to do this, you are welcome to grab the source code here: example page: http://blog.deconcept.com/code/intkit/fo_integrationkit.html source: http://blog.deconcept.com/code/intkit/fo_integrationkit.zip 2) elibol and I have discussed the ExpressInstall functionality in FlashObject very thoroughly, and he has a lot of very good points and had a couple of requests to make using ExpressInstall a bit easier, but I decided to not change how it works because I like giving people the choice of custom upgrade messages. During the exchange
Re: [Flashcoders] New wrinkle in IE activation issue...
I'll second the 'disable script debugging' issue... you should make sure that the box is checked and quit/restart the browser window. A reboot wouldn't hurt, but it shouldn't be necessary. On Apr 17, 2006, at 7:33 PM, ryanm wrote: Just for fun, you might want to see if this is limited to Flash, or if it affects other ActiveX controls. Unfortunately, I can't think of any other ActiveX controls on public sites offhand, but I ran into an issue today with a rich text editor that's an ActiveX control. Not limited to flash, all activex controls have this problem. ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Flash Object vs UFO for flash detection and as eolas workaround
well that's cool, thanks for the response..
the only thing i'd like to address was this part:
The FlashObject class would just embed swf files. Any additional
concerns
would be seperated from this class, where each class would
interface to
operate with one anotherAs it stands, all of the features are
crammed into one class file, the
FlashObject.js, making it very hard to add/remove functionality
without
fundamentally reprogramming the entire tool.
If you take a look at the code, you'll see that it *is* split up into
different 'classes' and objects that have their own methods...
the FlashObject 'class' handles the base creation (constructor) and
writing the HTML to the page.
for plugin detection, I have another 'class' that handles lookups of
the flash player version, this is under
deconcept.FlashObjectUtil 'class'. To do this, it creates
PlayerVersion objects, which contain methods for comparing versions
to check if the user has the version that is required or not
(PlayerVersion.versionIsValid)
then, because it is extremely useful, I've included another 'class'
for grabbing query parameters (and hash parameters) from the query
string - this is packaged up in the 'deconcept.util' 'class' (or
package i guess)
Each of these can be modified / changed / added / removed just as you
could in any other OOP language (obviously with a few more
restrictions, since this is Javascript and not some other compiled
language).
So you can see that it is indeed split up into different sections for
easier modification.
I guess it helps if you look at the flashobject.js file as more of a
'package' than a 'class'.
(and as an aside, John's problem can't be fixed by modifying the script)
On Apr 17, 2006, at 9:54 PM, Jim Kremens wrote:
Hi Geoff,
I'll reply to your comments inline below...
First, I guess I'm not sure why you would need to 'maintain' it. The
script is basically just an API for writing the HTML to embed a swf
file into an html document. This probably won't change significantly
any time soon, so the need to 'maintain' a script like this is non-
existent.
I said 'maintain' - a more accurate word would have been 'modify.'
John Grden ran into an 'edge case.' In a case like that, he might
have chosen to dive into the script to refactor the code in a way that
involved more
than just extending it.
Second, maybe you were looking at the compressed version? I
include a version of the 'source' code that is much easier to read if
you are into that.
I was reading the compressed version. What a dumbass... For some
reason
I just didn't see the 'source' directory there. Certainly
helps... :-)
As far as the misc. accusations about FlashObject not being Object
Oriented, (Jim said: 'IMHO, the code is very procedural, not object
oriented. The cues for this are the endless conditional
statements. A good, encapsulated architecture can greatly minimize
these...')
The code is object oriented - that comment was inaccurate. I think
it could be
*more* object oriented, if that makes sense... In other words, I would
prefer it if it were
refactored in a way that further encapsulated the various tasks it
performs.
As far as the conditional statements are concerned, the red flag for
me is seeing conditionals that include seemingly unlike things:
if(this.skipDetect || this.getAttribute('doExpressInstall') ||
this.installedVer.versionIsValid(this.getAttribute('version'))){
I'm sure all of that makes sense when you're the guy who wrote the
code. And of course, I can take the time to figure it out
so it makes sense to me as well. I just think that, for my taste,
this file is trying to do too much. I'd rather the functionality were
broken out into separate classes. I alluded to the Strategy pattern
only because I use it all the time. It forces me to make small
classes that
really only do one thing. That style of coding used to annoy me, but
I've learned to love it because once you understand how things fit
together, everything's incredibly easy to modify. And it can
eliminate the need for lots of conditional checks that are otherwise
unavoidable.
I still think Elibol said it extremely well:
The FlashObject class would just embed swf files. Any additional
concerns
would be seperated from this class, where each class would
interface to
operate with one anotherAs it stands, all of the features are
crammed into one class file, the
FlashObject.js, making it very hard to add/remove functionality
without
fundamentally reprogramming the entire tool.
It all comes down to a matter of taste. For better or worse, my code
looks more like Java than it used to. (I think too much Java is a
disease,
but there's a lot that can be learned from Java or C#). I know
Javascript isn't Java, and it isn't even Actionscript. So it's unfair
of me to
complain about it. The javascript that I do like typically resides in
larger JS frameworks, like DOJO. Frameworks
