Re: Wallstreet Hinge Question
On 09/02/06 12:07, Paul Stamsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I know this comes up too frequently, but who is generally best for replacing them? PowerBook Parts http://www.pbparts.com/ does that. They replace the pot metal with stainless steel hinges. However, even though I bought stuff from them, I must disclosed that I've never purchased that specific service. I had them replace the hinges on my Wallstreet. I was completely satisfied. The hinge replacement cost about what the hinges alone would cost from Apple. Andrew in Ann Arbor technology is the answer, what was the question? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wallstreet hinge question
Sorry, I know this comes up too frequently, but who is generally best for replacing them? -- Only exceptionally rational men can afford to be absurd. -- Allan Goldfein -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet hinge question
On 09/02/06 12:07, Paul Stamsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I know this comes up too frequently, but who is generally best for replacing them? PowerBook Parts http://www.pbparts.com/ does that. They replace the pot metal with stainless steel hinges. However, even though I bought stuff from them, I must disclosed that I've never purchased that specific service. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Airport Question (again)
Hi Y'all... I have an Airport problem. Recently, I put an original Airport card in my iBook (G3/500 - Dual USB). Worked fine under Panther and after upgrading to Tiger, it still performed flawlessly. This afternoon, I reset the Power manager in an attempt to squeeze a bit more life out of an old battery. That failed and when I rebooted the computer, I had no internet connection. According to MacStumbler, I have a good connection to the wireless router (and a few others) but any attempt to access a web page fails with the message I'm not connected to the internet. I'm pretty lost here. Any suggestions on where to start? Thanks, Amanda -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: further Lombard HD question
Hello Dean Yes, it does need to be a ATA-5 drive. I've tried a several newer ATA6 drives, and they show up, are installable, but not bootable. I would do a Pricegrabber search for ATA-5 drives Dave Dave Bennett G3/400 Lombard MacOSX 10.3.9 512mb/27GB. On Jan 31, 2006, at 4:27 PM, Dean A. Arnold wrote: Okay, We've established that all HD's are dodgy in terms of quality. Now back to the tech end of things. I read in LEM that the HD for a Lombard must be ATA-5. Does that preclude the use of an ATA-6 drive or is that protocol backwards compatible. I'd prefer to hear from folks that have replaced drives rather than speculative musings. Thanks! Dean -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.25/247 - Release Date: 1/31/2006 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: further Lombard HD question
G-Books wrote on 2/1/06, 19:12: Hello Dean Yes, it does need to be a ATA-5 drive. * I also have a Lombard which I intend to put a larger hard drive in. I have at present a 40gb hard drive which is in a USB enclosure so I don't happen to know the manufacturers name but how can you determine whether or not a hard drive is an ATA5,6, 4 or what. Do you have to go by the manufacturers name or the type of hard drive such as a maxtor diamondmax for example in order to determine the ATA type. Thank you for any and all assistance in this matter. -- Brad 55417-1734 Pwr Mac G4 64 MB Radeon 7000 AGP Gtaphics OWC Mercury Extreme 1GHZ CPU Upgrade 1.12GB Ram 9GB Quantum Fireball/ OS 9.2.2 WDC 80GB/ OS X.3.9 Pioneer DVR 105 Pwr Mac G3 BW 64MB Radeon 7000 PCI Graphics card 450MHZ CPU 1gb ram 120 gb Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus X.3.9/80gb Hitachi Deskstar Sata harddrive X.4/ 40gb Maxtor DiamondMax ATA hard drive/9.2.2 Seritek SATA Controller card/Pioneer DVR 105 OS X.3.9/ Lexmark X1185 all- in- one printer Powerbook 3400c 200MHZ, 144MB ram, 2gig harddrive, OS 9.1, modules; floppy, cd-rom, zip drive If it's good to you, it's good for you -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
further Lombard HD question
Okay, We've established that all HD's are dodgy in terms of quality. Now back to the tech end of things. I read in LEM that the HD for a Lombard must be ATA-5. Does that preclude the use of an ATA-6 drive or is that protocol backwards compatible. I'd prefer to hear from folks that have replaced drives rather than speculative musings. Thanks! Dean -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.25/247 - Release Date: 1/31/2006 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question Regarding After-market SuperDrives in Pismos
Hello illustrious comrades, I just swapped a MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-815A superdrive into my Pismo successfully, used PatchBurn to bring it into full finder functionality. My question is this: Is there any way to turn the unit into a multi-region player? What I'm hoping for is a simple app or utility, but any suggestions welcome. Yours, Run (206) 760-0462 --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question Regarding After-market SuperDrives in Pismos
on 11/01/06 18:11, Illovox Media at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello illustrious comrades, I just swapped a MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-815A superdrive into my Pismo successfully, used PatchBurn to bring it into full finder functionality. My question is this: Is there any way to turn the unit into a multi-region player? What I'm hoping for is a simple app or utility, but any suggestions welcome. Yours, Run (206) 760-0462 --- To turn a DVD player into a multi-region player, you need to apply a non-official, hacked firmware that removes the limitation of that stupid region check. There are some risks associated with this but everytime I did it, it went fine. Now, you would need to find if somebody came out with a firmware for your specific model. Do a Google search on matshita firmware and you should get a few hits. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] frag n.,v.: [from Vietnam-era U.S. military slang via the games Doom and Quake] 1. To kill another player's avatar in a multiuser game. I hold the office Quake record with 40 frags. 2. To completely ruin something. Forget that power supply, the lightning strike fragged it. See also gib. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
HD warranty question
I've had TechTool running for ~ 10 hours and it's showing 601 bad blocks (block 359040 of 156301488) so far. The data's completely corrupt and seemingly unsalvageable. Disk First Aid, TechTool, DiskWarrior and Drive Genius all give up on it. Is this a warranty issue (HD purchased w/laptop 7 months ago) or is a thorough reformat and reinstall going to get me back up and running. The local tech told me that If I have to order a part, it's under warranty. If not, you eat the cost Thanks -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: HD warranty question
On 10/01/06 13:01, Frank P. Eigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had TechTool running for ~ 10 hours and it's showing 601 bad blocks (block 359040 of 156301488) so far. The data's completely corrupt and seemingly unsalvageable. Disk First Aid, TechTool, DiskWarrior and Drive Genius all give up on it. Is this a warranty issue (HD purchased w/laptop 7 months ago) or is a thorough reformat and reinstall going to get me back up and running. The local tech told me that If I have to order a part, it's under warranty. If not, you eat the cost Thanks A thorough reformat and reinstall would probably get you back and running but if I was you, I would have it replaced. You never know, it might start acting up again... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: HD warranty question
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Mike Kauspedas wrote: I've had TechTool running for ~ 10 hours and it's showing 601 bad blocks (block 359040 of 156301488) so far. The data's completely corrupt and seemingly unsalvageable. Disk First Aid, TechTool, DiskWarrior and Drive Genius all give up on it. Is this a warranty issue (HD purchased w/laptop 7 months ago) or is a thorough reformat and reinstall going to get me back up and running. The local tech told me that If I have to order a part, it's under warranty. If not, you eat the cost Thanks A thorough reformat and reinstall would probably get you back and running but if I was you, I would have it replaced. You never know, it might start acting up again... -Laurent. You may have to plug it into an x86 laptop or find an adapter for a PC, but if you low level format it with a tool from the manufacturer's website it may fix the issues. If it is a mechanical issue though it will not. Regardless you should get it replaced if it is under warranty. Mike Kauspedas Thanks, and understood. But if the problems are resolved with a software solution, it doesn't sound like I can get it replaced under warranty. Does anyone know? -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: HD warranty question
On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:02 PM, Frank P. Eigler wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Mike Kauspedas wrote: I've had TechTool running for ~ 10 hours and it's showing 601 bad blocks (block 359040 of 156301488) so far. Mike Kauspedas Thanks, and understood. But if the problems are resolved with a software solution, it doesn't sound like I can get it replaced under warranty. Does anyone know? -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum Sounds like excessive dead spots on the drive to me, push to have it replaced. It will only get worse. Maybe just after the warranty runs out! John -- I know that God won't give me anything I cannot handle, I just wish He didn't trust me soo much! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
The truly amazing thing is the actual stupidity you come across in this PC dominated world when it comes to Mac Networking. Back when I used PC's I used a wired network and I was really new to networking back then. I even took a course on it at a local community college. With that under my belt and a couple of texts to refer to, I went at it. I bought my routers and all of my cat 5 cables and then the PC's still wouldn't cooperate. One would see some but others wouldn't see others. It took me weeks to finally get it to where I finally have everybody able to share files and printers. When I was able to afford a Windows NT server, that helped quite a bit. Then I made the switch in 2001 and started going over to wireless, obvious choice was wireless and networking has never been so easy. Using only Apple hardware probably has made it a lot easier on me than using 2nd and 3rd party equipment. Everything works right out of the box and works with little to no configuration. As far as wireless networking, Apple the top of the line. I would not consider using anything else. Tim On Dec 24, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Concetta Z wrote: Reminds me of when I went to Staples, and asked a salesperson about setting up a wireless network between a PC and a Mac. They didn't know, so they called over a higher up, who told me it could not be done. I got a Linksys WRT54G (not from Staples), installed an Airport extreme card, called Linksys tech support and very soon after, Voilà, the impossible was actually quite easy, even for a tech- impaired person like me. Concetta On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:59 AM, Tim Collier wrote: I called customer support and got a very unhelpful person at the other end who told me that you shouldn't be using this with a Mac in the first place. So they really don't want Mac users buying their product. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
Reminds me of when I went to Staples, and asked a salesperson about setting up a wireless network between a PC and a Mac. They didn't know, so they called over a higher up, who told me it could not be done. I got a Linksys WRT54G (not from Staples), installed an Airport extreme card, called Linksys tech support and very soon after, Voilà, the impossible was actually quite easy, even for a tech-impaired person like me. Concetta On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:59 AM, Tim Collier wrote: I called customer support and got a very unhelpful person at the other end who told me that you shouldn't be using this with a Mac in the first place. So they really don't want Mac users buying their product. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
On Dec 22, 2005, at 10:49 PM, Clem Bacani wrote: Generally routers works fine for both PC and Mac but manufacturers had the habit of putting in their box that product works ok with Windows -- XP etc and no mention that it works ok with Mac. Perhaps they are not targeting Mac users as their clients. Clem I suspect they are just catering to the rubes that need a little picture to assure them that the product works with what they are running. I've yet to see a little hardware box with a Linux character on it but networking hardware would be perfectly happy there. So I think it could actually be a point of personal pride that the routers I buy don't need to be sold to folks who need pictures of their OS to prove compatibility. At any rate the works with tags on hardware are little more than stupidity honey. I've even seen mice and keyboards with little Windows flags on them that care not a jot what OS they're talking to. But there are surely some manufacturers who go the extra distance to invite Mac users to the table. Buffalo does that, as does LaCie. And I think I've seen more fried routers than any other type of hardware except perhaps hard drives or laptop screens. Routers get hot for some reason. They tend to break. John -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
I do agree with you, there. I know that I use Linux and OS X for most of what I do, but it's really a pain to have to jump through hoops to configure a router. Now, I agree with your condescending outlook on such things, but there are some things that I'd like to be able to see a picture of my OS on the box, so I know it works. I have an old HP Scanjet that refuses to work under any Mac OS. Of course, I knew that, simply because it's my grandpa's old scanner that he replaced when it wouldn't work on his new mini. Mice and keyboards are totally different from a wireless card or a router, as far as I'm concerned. Personally, I tend to look at the table of compatibility on the box, as it's usually more accurate than the pictures... For the record, I do have a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse with the ugly little Windows logo on the keyboard where the option key should be... Caleb P.S. Don't take this seriously and please don't take offense, but you might like to try putting the router in the freezer. That'll cool it down... :) CSC On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 02:02 America/Chicago, John Siple wrote: On Dec 22, 2005, at 10:49 PM, Clem Bacani wrote: Generally routers works fine for both PC and Mac but manufacturers had the habit of putting in their box that product works ok with Windows -- XP etc and no mention that it works ok with Mac. Perhaps they are not targeting Mac users as their clients. Clem I suspect they are just catering to the rubes that need a little picture to assure them that the product works with what they are running. I've yet to see a little hardware box with a Linux character on it but networking hardware would be perfectly happy there. So I think it could actually be a point of personal pride that the routers I buy don't need to be sold to folks who need pictures of their OS to prove compatibility. At any rate the works with tags on hardware are little more than stupidity honey. I've even seen mice and keyboards with little Windows flags on them that care not a jot what OS they're talking to. But there are surely some manufacturers who go the extra distance to invite Mac users to the table. Buffalo does that, as does LaCie. And I think I've seen more fried routers than any other type of hardware except perhaps hard drives or laptop screens. Routers get hot for some reason. They tend to break. John -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
Plain simple truth of the matter is that Apple designed their Airport base stations and the Airport Express to work with your Mac. The Airport Setup software is designed to set it up in just a few simple steps that rarely even require referring to the enclosed documentation. Whether you use an original Airport Card or an Airport Extreme or for that matter a third party card, setup is a truly simple thing to do. I do not have any experience with Linksys or D-Link but I did make the mistake of buying a Netgear as my first attempt at wireless networking. I had all of my Macs equipped with Airport Extreme cards and one with an original card. I took the Netgear wireless router out of the box and read through the manual and everything seemed straight forward. I got the first Mac connected but that's as far as I got. None of the others would connect. Of course the Netgear instructions assumed that I had PC's but it should still work the same as for the first Macbut no. I called customer support and got a very unhelpful person at the other end who told me that you shouldn't be using this with a Mac in the first place. After several attempts and failures, I said thank you and hung up. I packed everything up and returned the router to CompUSA where I bought it. I went over and got the Airport base station that I should have gotten, brought it home and set it up myself. All done in about 15 minutes without having to call anybody. I've extended the reach of my signal (didn't really have to, but it made me feel better) by buying 2 Airport Express and distributing them around the other end of the house. Adding them to the network was also simple and I didn't need to call any tech support line. And, my network isn't a straight-forward Mac setup either, I'll describe below (sorry for the length of this post, but I want to make my point): Cable modem to Airport Basestation Konica-Minolta Laser Network Printer connected to base station Mac #1 G5 Dual 2 gig with Airport Extreme Card--Location Office with the basestation Mac #2 G4 Dual 1 gig with Sonnet Aria Extreme PCI card (shows up as an Airport card)--Location Office with the basestation Mac #3 G3 Blue White 450 mhz with Sonnet Aria Extreme PCI card-- Location Office with the basestation Mac #4 G3 Blue White 400 mhz connected to Airport Express via ethernet--Location Kitchen, Airport Express also shares printer and set of speakers Mac #5 G4 iBook 1.3 gig 14 inch mostly used in Family room served by another Airport Express which shares a printer and speakers--it can roam anywhere in the house without losing it's connection Computer # 6 Dell Insiron 9300 17 inch with Centrino processor mostly used in Family room but can also roam anywhere in the house without losing a connection So, on my simple Wireless network, I have access to 1 laser printer and 2 inkjet printers and 2 sets of speakers (1 is my home stereo system, the other just a simple setup with a sub-woofer). All of the Macs can share files, nobody ever drops off, unless they're asleep. The PC plays nicely although we had to play around and tweak Norton a bit. Plus the whole network is protected with WEP 128 encryption. Tim On Dec 23, 2005, at 1:40 AM, Caleb Cupples wrote: That's what I was getting at. Plus, as far as my bespectacled eyes can tell, the box says Designed for Microsoft Windows XP on most, if not all of their products. That's enough to make me look the other way. No blue X = not buying... Caleb On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 00:12 America/Chicago, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 23/12/05 00:52, themacuser at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh? Their routers all seem to have web-config and they're all 802.11, so I don't see how it can not be mac-friendly. I havent used one yet though, so correct me if I am wrong. As long as you don't need their support, you're fine. But if you ever need to call them and tell them that you're using it with a Macintosh, they will almost hang up on you. FYI, Over the period of two years, I had 2 Linksys cable/dsl routers. Both stopped functioning without any apparent reasons. Right after the warranty ended up. I decided to go with D-Link and so far, after a little bit over a year, it's still running fine. They were all Ethernet routers, not wireless, though. YMMV... -Laurent. -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Airport Question
On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:59 AM, Tim Collier wrote: I called customer support and got a very unhelpful person at the other end who told me that you shouldn't be using this with a Mac in the first place. So they really don't want Mac users buying their product. -- Alan Miller Underwater Photographer °°.°.°.°. http://home.earthlink.net/~uwphoto/ Pismo400, 1G RAM, OS X.4.3 eBay ID uwphotoer Live each day like it is your last because someday you'll be right. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
Hi all if that is so then why does mac format give it 4.5 out of 5 as a mac router and it only dropped the .5 % because of the price even thought they are, roughly 30% cheaper that the airport base stations. I think That it is each to there own on the router side and what works for some may not work for others. My experience of routers is Netgear all the way. So who ever the original poster was you need to look at all the options, check the prices see what you understand, then see what you can afford if there is a router that is new that falls into both then go for that one. if not then wait until there is. vicki I called customer support and got a very unhelpful person at the other end who told me that you shouldn't be using this with a Mac in the first place. So they really don't want Mac users buying their product. -- Alan Miller -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
Ouch. Sounds like a bad business strategy, as far as I'm concerned. Even Microsoft admits that Mac users make up a large chunk of their profits... Caleb On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 07:12 America/Chicago, Alan Miller wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:59 AM, Tim Collier wrote: I called customer support and got a very unhelpful person at the other end who told me that you shouldn't be using this with a Mac in the first place. So they really don't want Mac users buying their product. -- Alan Miller Underwater Photographer °°.°.°.°. http://home.earthlink.net/~uwphoto/ Pismo400, 1G RAM, OS X.4.3 eBay ID uwphotoer Live each day like it is your last because someday you'll be right. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
FYI, Over the period of two years, I had 2 Linksys cable/dsl routers. Both stopped functioning without any apparent reasons. Right after the warranty ended up. I decided to go with D-Link and so far, after a little bit over a year, it's still running fine. They were all Ethernet routers, not wireless, though Just to weigh in with another user's results. I was given a wired Linksys BEFSR41 Router, v.3; firmware version 1.05.00, by a friend who replaced it with a new ABS. I don't know how long he had it, but it's been on since he gave to me over a year ago and it has been trouble free. I find routers rather complex what with the multitude of items that can be tinkered with and changed and for others who feel the same way, I strongly urge you to bookmark the site: http://www.portforward.com/ This is from their home page: PortForward.com is proud to offer help setting up port forwarding on your router or firewall. Many Internet users are not aware of how to configure their router or firewall in order to use applications like Peer-to-Peer file sharing (PtoP), Internet Games, Web serving, FTP serving, WebCams, IRC DDC, and Instant Messaging such as AIM, ICQ, Yahoo and MS Messenger. Our Routers section offers detailed walkthroughs on how to setup port forwarding. These how to guides make it easy to setup your router or firewall for any application you may need. Routers can be tough to configure. Our Help and FAQ page gives general tips and definitions. These can help if you can't connect to your router, or are unsure of some of the terms on this page. If you do not know exactly what you are doing or are having problems, Start Here. Try our Common Ports ports page if you need to know what ports are required by a commonly used software application. We will be adding more to this section soon! If you would like to submit ports used by a common software application, please send that information to us using our Comments page. bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
Oh, I've been told that before. Like with BellSouth DSL, after one of their outages and my modem appeared fully connected yet wouldn't allow mail or safari to connect, they blamed the Mac and said it wasn't compatible with their system and it was my fault. If I would only use Internet Explorer I'd have no problems. Of course a few short hours later, all was working fineseems like one of their servers got ALL of it's services up and functioning or something like that, at least that was their explanation for the problem. After that, I cancelled service with them and started using my cable company. What a difference! And there have been similar incidents. Tim On Dec 23, 2005, at 9:37 AM, Caleb Cupples wrote: Ouch. Sounds like a bad business strategy, as far as I'm concerned. Even Microsoft admits that Mac users make up a large chunk of their profits... Caleb On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 07:12 America/Chicago, Alan Miller wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:59 AM, Tim Collier wrote: I called customer support and got a very unhelpful person at the other end who told me that you shouldn't be using this with a Mac in the first place. So they really don't want Mac users buying their product. -- Alan Miller Underwater Photographer °°.°.°.°. http://home.earthlink.net/~uwphoto/ Pismo400, 1G RAM, OS X.4.3 eBay ID uwphotoer Live each day like it is your last because someday you'll be right. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Onyx Question
Based on an earlier thread I downloaded Onyx to do some house keeping. I have run it twice and each time it asks for my system password. Is that usual? I know that to install software I get asked to provide the PW, so I know I'm open to comment as to what am I worried about, but this constant request for the PW concerns me. I suspect that Onyx needs the PW to work with the system files and the fact that I have to enter the PW is indicative that the software does not save the PW. Comments? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Onyx Question
That is 100% normal. Yep, you're exactly right. Onyx needs the password to be able to mess with system files, and the fact that you have to re-enter it means that it does in fact not save the password. On 22/12/2005, at 9:37 PM, Barry Muller wrote: Based on an earlier thread I downloaded Onyx to do some house keeping. I have run it twice and each time it asks for my system password. Is that usual? I know that to install software I get asked to provide the PW, so I know I'm open to comment as to what am I worried about, but this constant request for the PW concerns me. I suspect that Onyx needs the PW to work with the system files and the fact that I have to enter the PW is indicative that the software does not save the PW. Comments? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
On Dec 22, 2005, at 1:41 AM, Clark Martin wrote: Your iBook can only take an original Airport card (802.11b) so stick with a b router unless there is something else that might go wireless. Don't worry about the future, by then a g (or n, x, y or z) router will likely be cheaper than what a b is now. You probably won't find any routers that are just 802.11b - g is pretty much the standard and compatible with the Airport card in your iBook. n is becoming the new standard but isn't 'standard' yet. I steer people away from Linksys, I've heard bad things about their reliability and features. D-Link seems okay as is Netgear. Oh boy do I agree here. We completely stopped carrying Linksys products this year due to their flaky wireless routers. We recommend Netgear highly as well as Apples Airport stations for the technophobes. The airport station is one of those areas where Apple deserves its reputation for high price - they are very high priced compared to other wireless stations. But there is something to be said for one stop support. There is nothing worse then getting stuck on the Support Merry Go Round of - you'll need to talk to Apple about that problem - you'll need to talk to XYZ about that problem. I'd also recommend just powering the unit up, plugging it into your network and then trying it out with your iBook. But do be sure to turn security on soon afterwards. cheers david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Onyx Question
On Dec 22, 2005, at 4:07 AM, Barry Muller wrote: Based on an earlier thread I downloaded Onyx to do some house keeping. I have run it twice and each time it asks for my system password. Is that usual? Yes, it's perfectly normal because it needs to do things as root. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Superdrive Question?
I'd suggest either a Pioneer DVR-K05 or Matshita/Panasonic UJ-845, either will work great. I chose for my TiBook the Pioneer unit, under US$90 (shipped) from zipzoomfly: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=171021 or from meritline for US$90: http://www.meritline.com/pioneer-dvr-k-05-slim-8x-dual-layer-dvd-burner-dr ive.html meritline also has the UJ-845: http://www.meritline.com/panasonic-uj-845-b-8x-slim-dvd-drive-bundle-nero- suite-software-pc.html Reading DVDs and CDs uses the same lens, but with separate lasers. I'd try a light shot of compressed air on the lens before tossing the drive. It's quite common for a bit of dust on the lens to foil proper operation with one media and not the other. dan k . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
Not trying to be contrary here, but I am very pleased with Linksys. I installed Airport Express in my iBook and I bought one of their 802.11g routers a while back and set up a wireless network in our house, talked through by great customer service - and it was a network between my Mac and my mom's PC, on opposite sides of the house. Both these procedures were surprisingly easy for someone as technically challenged as I am. Everything works great. I have had to call them again (I'm sure my mom's PC was the culprit) and they led me step-by-step to the solution to that problem. I couldn't ask for more from Linksys. Concetta I steer people away from Linksys, I've heard bad things about their reliability and features. D-Link seems okay as is Netgear. Oh boy do I agree here. We completely stopped carrying Linksys products this year due to their flaky wireless routers. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
The big issue with Linksys is that they're not very Mac friendly. That's just my humble opinion, based on the lack of Mac-compatible offerings they have... Caleb On Thursday, Dec 22, 2005, at 23:25 America/Chicago, Concetta Z wrote: Not trying to be contrary here, but I am very pleased with Linksys. I installed Airport Express in my iBook and I bought one of their 802.11g routers a while back and set up a wireless network in our house, talked through by great customer service - and it was a network between my Mac and my mom's PC, on opposite sides of the house. Both these procedures were surprisingly easy for someone as technically challenged as I am. Everything works great. I have had to call them again (I'm sure my mom's PC was the culprit) and they led me step-by-step to the solution to that problem. I couldn't ask for more from Linksys. Concetta I steer people away from Linksys, I've heard bad things about their reliability and features. D-Link seems okay as is Netgear. Oh boy do I agree here. We completely stopped carrying Linksys products this year due to their flaky wireless routers. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
Huh? Their routers all seem to have web-config and they're all 802.11, so I don't see how it can not be mac-friendly. I havent used one yet though, so correct me if I am wrong. On 23/12/2005, at 4:01 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote: The big issue with Linksys is that they're not very Mac friendly. That's just my humble opinion, based on the lack of Mac-compatible offerings they have... Caleb On Thursday, Dec 22, 2005, at 23:25 America/Chicago, Concetta Z wrote: Not trying to be contrary here, but I am very pleased with Linksys. I installed Airport Express in my iBook and I bought one of their 802.11g routers a while back and set up a wireless network in our house, talked through by great customer service - and it was a network between my Mac and my mom's PC, on opposite sides of the house. Both these procedures were surprisingly easy for someone as technically challenged as I am. Everything works great. I have had to call them again (I'm sure my mom's PC was the culprit) and they led me step-by-step to the solution to that problem. I couldn't ask for more from Linksys. Concetta I steer people away from Linksys, I've heard bad things about their reliability and features. D-Link seems okay as is Netgear. Oh boy do I agree here. We completely stopped carrying Linksys products this year due to their flaky wireless routers. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
on 23/12/05 00:52, themacuser at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh? Their routers all seem to have web-config and they're all 802.11, so I don't see how it can not be mac-friendly. I havent used one yet though, so correct me if I am wrong. As long as you don't need their support, you're fine. But if you ever need to call them and tell them that you're using it with a Macintosh, they will almost hang up on you. FYI, Over the period of two years, I had 2 Linksys cable/dsl routers. Both stopped functioning without any apparent reasons. Right after the warranty ended up. I decided to go with D-Link and so far, after a little bit over a year, it's still running fine. They were all Ethernet routers, not wireless, though. YMMV... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy's Law: prov. The correct, _original_ Murphy's Law reads: If there are two or more ways to do something, and one of those ways can result in a catastrophe, then someone will do it. This is a principle of defensive design, cited here because it is usually given in mutant forms less descriptive of the challenges of design for lusers. Edward A. Murphy, Jr. was one of the engineers on the rocket-sled experiments that were done by the U.S. Air Force in 1949 to test human acceleration tolerances. One experiment involved a set of 16 accelerometers mounted to different parts of the subject's body. There were two ways each sensor could be glued to its mount, and somebody methodically installed all 16 the wrong way around. Murphy then made the original form of his pronouncement, which the test subject quoted at a news conference a few days later. Before too many years had gone by variants had passed into the popular imagination, changing as they went. Most of these are variants on Anything that can go wrong, will; this is correctly referred to as Finagle's Law. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
Strange though, I've had people swear by Linksys routers and say Netgear ones suck... I have already ordered a linksys ADSL2 ethernet router when I signed up to internode... hope it works... On 23/12/2005, at 4:42 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 23/12/05 00:52, themacuser at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh? Their routers all seem to have web-config and they're all 802.11, so I don't see how it can not be mac-friendly. I havent used one yet though, so correct me if I am wrong. As long as you don't need their support, you're fine. But if you ever need to call them and tell them that you're using it with a Macintosh, they will almost hang up on you. FYI, Over the period of two years, I had 2 Linksys cable/dsl routers. Both stopped functioning without any apparent reasons. Right after the warranty ended up. I decided to go with D-Link and so far, after a little bit over a year, it's still running fine. They were all Ethernet routers, not wireless, though. YMMV... -Laurent. -- == == Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp:// nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Murphy's Law: prov. The correct, _original_ Murphy's Law reads: If there are two or more ways to do something, and one of those ways can result in a catastrophe, then someone will do it. This is a principle of defensive design, cited here because it is usually given in mutant forms less descriptive of the challenges of design for lusers. Edward A. Murphy, Jr. was one of the engineers on the rocket-sled experiments that were done by the U.S. Air Force in 1949 to test human acceleration tolerances. One experiment involved a set of 16 accelerometers mounted to different parts of the subject's body. There were two ways each sensor could be glued to its mount, and somebody methodically installed all 16 the wrong way around. Murphy then made the original form of his pronouncement, which the test subject quoted at a news conference a few days later. Before too many years had gone by variants had passed into the popular imagination, changing as they went. Most of these are variants on Anything that can go wrong, will; this is correctly referred to as Finagle's Law. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
That's what I was getting at. Plus, as far as my bespectacled eyes can tell, the box says Designed for Microsoft Windows XP on most, if not all of their products. That's enough to make me look the other way. No blue X = not buying... Caleb On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 00:12 America/Chicago, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 23/12/05 00:52, themacuser at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh? Their routers all seem to have web-config and they're all 802.11, so I don't see how it can not be mac-friendly. I havent used one yet though, so correct me if I am wrong. As long as you don't need their support, you're fine. But if you ever need to call them and tell them that you're using it with a Macintosh, they will almost hang up on you. FYI, Over the period of two years, I had 2 Linksys cable/dsl routers. Both stopped functioning without any apparent reasons. Right after the warranty ended up. I decided to go with D-Link and so far, after a little bit over a year, it's still running fine. They were all Ethernet routers, not wireless, though. YMMV... -Laurent. -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
Generally routers works fine for both PC and Mac but manufacturers had the habit of putting in their box that product works ok with Windows -- XP etc and no mention that it works ok with Mac. Perhaps they are not targeting Mac users as their clients. Clem On Dec 22, 2005, at 10:40 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote: That's what I was getting at. Plus, as far as my bespectacled eyes can tell, the box says Designed for Microsoft Windows XP on most, if not all of their products. That's enough to make me look the other way. No blue X = not buying... Caleb On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 00:12 America/Chicago, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 23/12/05 00:52, themacuser at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh? Their routers all seem to have web-config and they're all 802.11, so I don't see how it can not be mac-friendly. I havent used one yet though, so correct me if I am wrong. As long as you don't need their support, you're fine. But if you ever need to call them and tell them that you're using it with a Macintosh, they will almost hang up on you. FYI, Over the period of two years, I had 2 Linksys cable/dsl routers. Both stopped functioning without any apparent reasons. Right after the warranty ended up. I decided to go with D-Link and so far, after a little bit over a year, it's still running fine. They were all Ethernet routers, not wireless, though. YMMV... -Laurent. -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Superdrive Question?
David Rodriguez on 12/20/05 5:06 PM wrote: I purchased a used G4 800 DVI Powerbook this last weekend. Everything runs fine and its in great shape, except the Combo drive. It was damaged by prior owner. DVD still works but no cd performance at all. So wondering about compatibility of Superdrives. Specifically, does anybody know if a Superdrive from an Imac G5 would fit? If it's just a matter of exchanging exterior drive mounting hardware, not a problem. If there are physical orientation or size differences of the drive itself, then that would be an issue. Obviously they are both slot loading. It's possible the drive just plain broke. I have a 1GHz 15 Aluminum and the Combo drive crapped out on me over a year ago, with the exact same symptoms as yours (DVD reads data and played movies, CD didn't read or write). Apple replaced it under warranty for me. You can add a SuperDrive to yours without any new hardware required. I've purchased and installed them for customers and they work nicely. Here's a link to OWC. They have a good selection available: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/optical-drives/superdrives/powerbook/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Superdrive Question?
You already said that. :) Yep, it is possible it is plain broke. The guy I bought it from said it stopped working, well when he dropped a gallon paint can on top of that corner (with the screen open). Yeah, I pictured a totally crushed corner too. But, no serious damage to the palm rest although it did impact. Though not too bad, it is already repaired with a little glue.There was no cd in the drive and I have learned that this drive uses the same lens for both cd and dvd, so that would indicate the cd components went bad. But I still wonder if the drive failure had something to do with installation of some software, but no telling at this point. There were clearly some issues with 10.3.9. I still am going to try and get this one working but will be picking up a superdrive either way. Thnx, Dave David Rodriguez on 12/20/05 5:06 PM wrote: I purchased a used G4 800 DVI Powerbook this last weekend. Everything runs fine and its in great shape, except the Combo drive. It was damaged by prior owner. DVD still works but no cd performance at all. So wondering about compatibility of Superdrives. Specifically, does anybody know if a Superdrive from an Imac G5 would fit? If it's just a matter of exchanging exterior drive mounting hardware, not a problem. If there are physical orientation or size differences of the drive itself, then that would be an issue. Obviously they are both slot loading. It's possible the drive just plain broke. I have a 1GHz 15 Aluminum and the Combo drive crapped out on me over a year ago, with the exact same symptoms as yours (DVD reads data and played movies, CD didn't read or write). Apple replaced it under warranty for me. You can add a SuperDrive to yours without any new hardware required. I've purchased and installed them for customers and they work nicely. Here's a link to OWC. They have a good selection available: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/optical-drives/superdrives/powerbook/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Airport Question
Hi All, I've decided to go wireless with my iBook-500, but I don't have a base unit yet. Just put an Airport (original) card in my 'Book and it works fine... seems someone is running an open wireless network nearby! :) Anyway... I went window shopping for equipment over the weekend and was amazed at what is available. Thus my question. Having an old Airport card, is there any equipment I should stay away from? I mean, I assume an older Airport base would work and the Airport control panel says I'm accessing either a netgear or linksys network. Would these work as well? And what of 802.11b vs 802.11g? I'm pretty comfortable with wired networks, but there's a =steep= learning curve for wireless. Thanks for any advice! Amanda -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
Hi Amanda I use a netgear wgt624 108mbps wireless router without problem. The router is very easy to set up and i have no troubles connecting a couple of laptops and a couple of desktops all via airport or wireless connections. It lets my mini connect at the full 54mbps airport extreme and my G4 tower and powerbook connect at 11mbps 802.11b speed via internal airport cards. I also use a 2400 with an old dell truemobile card in using the orinoco drivers and that connects problem free. The only problem i have is when my mother in law come over with her windows laptop i have to turn off the security i have so she can access it as the card she uses does not support the same level encryption as i use for the macs. vicki On Dec 22, 2005, at 6:23 AM, Amanda Ward wrote: Hi All, I've decided to go wireless with my iBook-500, but I don't have a base unit yet. Just put an Airport (original) card in my 'Book and it works fine... seems someone is running an open wireless network nearby! :) Anyway... I went window shopping for equipment over the weekend and was amazed at what is available. Thus my question. Having an old Airport card, is there any equipment I should stay away from? I mean, I assume an older Airport base would work and the Airport control panel says I'm accessing either a netgear or linksys network. Would these work as well? And what of 802.11b vs 802.11g? I'm pretty comfortable with wired networks, but there's a =steep= learning curve for wireless. Thanks for any advice! Amanda -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Question
At 10:23 PM -0800 12/21/05, Amanda Ward wrote: Hi All, I've decided to go wireless with my iBook-500, but I don't have a base unit yet. Just put an Airport (original) card in my 'Book and it works fine... seems someone is running an open wireless network nearby! :) Anyway... I went window shopping for equipment over the weekend and was amazed at what is available. Thus my question. Having an old Airport card, is there any equipment I should stay away from? I mean, I assume an older Airport base would work and the Airport control panel says I'm accessing either a netgear or linksys network. Would these work as well? And what of 802.11b vs 802.11g? I'm pretty comfortable with wired networks, but there's a =steep= learning curve for wireless. Best thing is to start with the simplest setup, no encryption and use all the defaults except the SSID name. Get it working and then keep activating the features you want. The one thing I always suggest is to survey the wireless environment. Download MacStumbler and run it. It will tell you what channels are in use and how strong the signal is. Pick a channel that is as little used as you can. A common mistake people make is to buy the router and just use all the defaults. This often means several routers are on the same channel in a given area. That is a great way to kill range. The other thing is leaving the default SSID. I've done some war driving and found a large percentage of routers are operating on their default settings, or most of them. Your iBook can only take an original Airport card (802.11b) so stick with a b router unless there is something else that might go wireless. Don't worry about the future, by then a g (or n, x, y or z) router will likely be cheaper than what a b is now. I steer people away from Linksys, I've heard bad things about their reliability and features. D-Link seems okay as is Netgear. I'm using a Motorola g but that is because it's rather full featured including some unusual features I needed. I've got a Belkin which is okay if slightly flakey. They did do a rather hare brained thing on another router, it redirected web URLs to some other site (they gave up on that fast). My SMC works okay but it's range isn't as good as either the Belkin or Motorola. Airports are good but they aren't cheap. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Superdrive Question?
G-day all, I purchased a used G4 800 DVI Powerbook this last weekend. Everything runs fine and its in great shape, except the Combo drive. It was damaged by prior owner. DVD still works but no cd performance at all. So wondering about compatibility of Superdrives. Specifically, does anybody know if a Superdrive from an Imac G5 would fit? If it's just a matter of exchanging exterior drive mounting hardware, not a problem. If there are physical orientation or size differences of the drive itself, then that would be an issue. Obviously they are both slot loading. Could use the information relatively soon. Thanks, Dave -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Superdrive Question?
David... I'd say a critical question is, Why does the DVD work, but the audio CD does not? I'm assuming the DVD audio is fine, correct? If so, then clearly there is no laser registration issue, and the fact that DVD audio works indicates the audio circuitry in the drive is fine. Are you sure there is not another, simpler--but, perhaps less obvious--issue? rb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Actually I have several things to try yet re the combo drive. These were data disks so really wasn't considering whether there was an audio disk issue. Apparently there are some files though that can get corrupted that I can try removing. Apparently resetting the pmu may also have an impact according to the Apple web site. About to shut down and try that next. The thing is, yeah I may fix the combo drive, BUT I REALY want to be able to burn dvd's on this too. So I am wanting to take the opportunity to upgrade to a Superdrive. I can always sell the combo drive off after I fix it if it happens. Dave David... I'd say a critical question is, Why does the DVD work, but the audio CD does not? I'm assuming the DVD audio is fine, correct? If so, then clearly there is no laser registration issue, and the fact that DVD audio works indicates the audio circuitry in the drive is fine. Are you sure there is not another, simpler--but, perhaps less obvious--issue? rb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Superdrive Question?
But yes RB, they are audio cd's (with data files on them). Resetting the pmu didn't work. I am running Tiger 10.4.3. I am wondering if anybody has this file? It is called 'CD Info.cidb' file. It is your in Users/Home/ Library/Preferences folder. Someone on the Apple site forum said it get corrupted but I don't even have it. I suspect it gets created after using some form of cd format, but this powerbook may have been upgraded since the drive stopped working, so said file may never have been generated. My guess anyhow... So now wondering if anybody has it in their folder. Thanks, Dave Actually I have several things to try yet re the combo drive. These were data disks so really wasn't considering whether there was an audio disk issue. Apparently there are some files though that can get corrupted that I can try removing. Apparently resetting the pmu may also have an impact according to the Apple web site. About to shut down and try that next. The thing is, yeah I may fix the combo drive, BUT I REALY want to be able to burn dvd's on this too. So I am wanting to take the opportunity to upgrade to a Superdrive. I can always sell the combo drive off after I fix it if it happens. Dave David... I'd say a critical question is, Why does the DVD work, but the audio CD does not? I'm assuming the DVD audio is fine, correct? If so, then clearly there is no laser registration issue, and the fact that DVD audio works indicates the audio circuitry in the drive is fine. Are you sure there is not another, simpler--but, perhaps less obvious--issue? rb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Superdrive Question?
On Dec 20, 2005, at 4:18 PM, David Rodriguez wrote: But yes RB, they are audio cd's (with data files on them). Resetting the pmu didn't work. I am running Tiger 10.4.3. I am wondering if anybody has this file? It is called 'CD Info.cidb' file. It is your in Users/Home/ Library/Preferences folder. Someone on the Apple site forum said it get corrupted but I don't even have it. I suspect it gets created after using some form of cd format, but this powerbook may have been upgraded since the drive stopped working, so said file may never have been generated. My guess anyhow... So now wondering if anybody has it in their folder. Thanks, I have it, it's a mostly text file that looks like it's a listing of some of the audio tracks I've played off CD's in iTunes.: volm cmpl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ B O X S E T ] ( D i s c 2 )auth B o b D y l a ncomp B o b D y l a ngnre R o c kyear ¡dnum dcnt cmpl meid J E 2 8 A 8 9 8 E E 7 C B A C 4 0 7 C 0 1 8 C 7 0 C B D 5 2 5 D 3muid 9 5 1 6 0prog * trak \ tnam . V i s i o n s O f J o h a n n agrup volm cmpl trak ^ tnam 0 E v e r y G r a i n O f S a n dgrup volm cmpl trak X tnam * Q u i n n T h e E s k i m ogrup volm cmpl trak \ tnam . M r . T a m b o u r i n e M a ngrup volm cmpl trak R tnam $ D e a r L a n d l o r dgrup volm cmpl trak X tnam * I t A i n ' t M e B a b egrup This wouldn't have anything to do with whether the CD works or not. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Interesting. Dan A had already sent me the file, but it doesn't open as a text file if it is 'saved' to disk. If it is just drug, then it does open as text file for me. Either way, it didn't work after restart. So much for that Apple forum suggestion... Found that one here: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=231004tstart=15 Dave I have it, it's a mostly text file that looks like it's a listing of some of the audio tracks I've played off CD's in iTunes.: ...snip ?i?n?'?t? ? M?e? ?B?a?b?egrup??? This wouldn't have anything to do with whether the CD works or not. -- Bruce Johnson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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David Rodriguez on 12/20/05 5:06 PM wrote: I purchased a used G4 800 DVI Powerbook this last weekend. Everything runs fine and its in great shape, except the Combo drive. It was damaged by prior owner. DVD still works but no cd performance at all. So wondering about compatibility of Superdrives. Specifically, does anybody know if a Superdrive from an Imac G5 would fit? If it's just a matter of exchanging exterior drive mounting hardware, not a problem. If there are physical orientation or size differences of the drive itself, then that would be an issue. Obviously they are both slot loading. It's possible the drive just plain broke. I have a 1GHz 15 Aluminum and the Combo drive crapped out on me over a year ago, with the exact same symptoms as yours (DVD reads data and played movies, CD didn't read or write). Apple replaced it under warranty for me. You can add a SuperDrive to yours without any new hardware required. I've purchased and installed them for customers and they work nicely. Here's a link to OWC. They have a good selection available: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/optical-drives/superdrives/powerbook/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Greetings folks, This may be a no-brainer Q... but I don't know... I'm thinking of buying from a certain vendor a G4 ibook that comes without an OS. My Q is, How can you install an OS if it doesn't already have one? I have OS 9.1 CDs which came with this current G3 ibook (300mhz, 6gig, 128 ram). Will a G4 ibook (800mhz, 30gig, 640 ram) without any OS on it, let me boot from and/or install this OS 9.1-CD, for starters? (Eventually I would look to buy OSX CDs, etc.) In other words, I'm sure the machine will turn on, but then what? Will a G4 ibook w/o any OS on it even let you get to the Start Up Disk in the Apple Menu/Control Panels so you can set it to start up on the OS 9.1 CD? And then would it let me merely copy to HD the entire OS 9.1 from the CD? If so, that'd be great. But if not, I wouldn't want to buy this G4 ibook if I can't even make it work. If it's more complicated than what I described above, does anyone know of a webpage or URL that would list How To do such a thing, step-by-step? Thanks for any tips! Best regards, Gail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
on 09/12/05 05:23, BGbank at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings folks, This may be a no-brainer Q... but I don't know... I'm thinking of buying from a certain vendor a G4 ibook that comes without an OS. My Q is, How can you install an OS if it doesn't already have one? I have OS 9.1 CDs which came with this current G3 ibook (300mhz, 6gig, 128 ram). Will a G4 ibook (800mhz, 30gig, 640 ram) without any OS on it, let me boot from and/or install this OS 9.1-CD, for starters? (Eventually I would look to buy OSX CDs, etc.) In other words, I'm sure the machine will turn on, but then what? Will a G4 ibook w/o any OS on it even let you get to the Start Up Disk in the Apple Menu/Control Panels so you can set it to start up on the OS 9.1 CD? And then would it let me merely copy to HD the entire OS 9.1 from the CD? If so, that'd be great. But if not, I wouldn't want to buy this G4 ibook if I can't even make it work. If it's more complicated than what I described above, does anyone know of a webpage or URL that would list How To do such a thing, step-by-step? Depending on the model of iBook, it may or may not boot from that OS 9.1 CD. Any Macintosh will be able to boot from an appropriate system install CD. The CD has a version of the OS so that the Mac can boot from it. The only gotcha is to make sure that the system install CD you have is appropriate for the specific model of Mac you're planning to use it with. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] metasyntactic variable: n. A name used in examples and understood to stand for whatever thing is under discussion, or any random member of a class of things under discussion. The word foo is the canonical example. To avoid confusion, hackers never (well, hardly ever) use `foo' or other words like it as permanent names for anything. In filenames, a common convention is that any filename beginning with a metasyntactic-variable name is a scratch file that may be deleted at any time. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
On Dec 9, 2005, at 2:23 AM, BGbank wrote: Greetings folks, This may be a no-brainer Q... but I don't know... I'm thinking of buying from a certain vendor a G4 ibook that comes without an OS. My Q is, How can you install an OS if it doesn't already have one? G4 iBooks will require Panther or better. It will not boot into any version of 9. Just buy the retail CD's for Panther or DVD for Tiger, boot with the C key held down. Nothing more to it than that. -Dylan -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
On 12/9/05, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 09/12/05 05:23, BGbank at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings folks, This may be a no-brainer Q... but I don't know... I'm thinking of buying from a certain vendor a G4 ibook that comes without an OS. My Q is, How can you install an OS if it doesn't already have one? I have OS 9.1 CDs which came with this current G3 ibook (300mhz, 6gig, 128 ram). Will a G4 ibook (800mhz, 30gig, 640 ram) without any OS on it, let me boot from and/or install this OS 9.1-CD, for starters? (Eventually I would look to buy OSX CDs, etc.) In other words, I'm sure the machine will turn on, but then what? Will a G4 ibook w/o any OS on it even let you get to the Start Up Disk in the Apple Menu/Control Panels so you can set it to start up on the OS 9.1 CD? And then would it let me merely copy to HD the entire OS 9.1 from the CD? If so, that'd be great. But if not, I wouldn't want to buy this G4 ibook if I can't even make it work. If it's more complicated than what I described above, does anyone know of a webpage or URL that would list How To do such a thing, step-by-step? Depending on the model of iBook, it may or may not boot from that OS 9.1 CD. Any Macintosh will be able to boot from an appropriate system install CD. The CD has a version of the OS so that the Mac can boot from it. The only gotcha is to make sure that the system install CD you have is appropriate for the specific model of Mac you're planning to use it with. -Laurent. -- First, the price of the iBook should be discounted because there is no original CD or OS loaded on the iBook. It should be sold with the original OS and include the CD's but that does not happen all the time so you will be responsible to get a licensed OS for it. I would not buy one that way personally because there could be problems you will not know about until it's got an OS on it. Unless you know the seller personally of course, or can return it if there is a problem. Many of the Mac specific install CD's like the one you have may not boot and install on any other specific Mac. So your OS 9 CD from your iBook may or may not work. Since it is an iBook CD your chances are better that it will work. You will find out when you boot from the CD and do the install process whether or not it will work for that particular iBook. If you have access to the iBook try booting from your CD by starting it or restarting it with the CD in the iBook while holding down the C key. Installing an OS is as simple as booting from the CD with the C key and following the installer instructions. It's easy to do. I would suggest buying a retail version of OS 10.3 from the swaplist or eBay as soon as possible. Your G3 iBook can also run OS 10.3 with enough RAM and it would be a much better Mac'n experience than OS 9.1 ever was. If you are going to buy a G4 iBook you should put a decent OS on it. OS 9 on a G4 is like driving a Cadillac with a Chevette motor in it. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Dylan McDermond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 10:46 AM G4 iBooks will require Panther or better. It will not boot into any version of 9. Just buy the retail CD's for Panther or DVD for Tiger, boot with the C key held down. Nothing more to it than that. -Dylan THANK YOU Dylan. I didn't know about the C key. That sounds simple enough! Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 8:33 AM Depending on the model of iBook, it may or may not boot from that OS 9.1 CD. Any Macintosh will be able to boot from an appropriate system install CD. The CD has a version of the OS so that the Mac can boot from it. The only gotcha is to make sure that the system install CD you have is appropriate for the specific model of Mac you're planning to use it with. -Laurent. That sounds easy enough to figure out by checking some specs at everymac or apple, which I did, and so I'm thinking OS9 would NOT work on the G4/800mhz, first edition. I never had a mac w/No OS, so wasn't sure. Thanks again. Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 10:47 AM First, the price of the iBook should be discounted because there is no original CD or OS loaded on the iBook. It should be sold with the original OS and include the CD's but that does not happen all the time so you will be responsible to get a licensed OS for it. Yes, thanks. It is discounted, or was, I should say, because I just got email to my query and in their ad/mac description it had said at the bottom of the page Buy Now for $400 but he just wrote me to say that was a mistake, as it was supposed to say that bidding STARTS at $400. I thought it was too good to be true, lol. Of course he said if no one bids on it he would gladly sell it for the $400. I would not buy one that way personally because there could be problems you will not know about until it's got an OS on it. Unless you know the seller personally of course, or can return it if there is a problem. Thanks for that advice. I didn't think about the fact there COULD be problems unknown UNTIL an OS was put on it. And no, I don't know the people but they are a power seller at ebay with refurbs and 30-day warranty only. Many of the Mac specific install CD's like the one you have may not boot and install on any other specific Mac. So your OS 9 CD from your iBook may or may not work. Since it is an iBook CD your chances are better that it will work. You will find out when you boot from the CD and do the install process whether or not it will work for that particular iBook. If you have access to the iBook try booting from your CD by starting it or restarting it with the CD in the iBook while holding down the C key. I love that C key tip, thanks! I wish I had access to it to try it out in advance but not yet and may not even end up with it if the bidding doesn't work out. Installing an OS is as simple as booting from the CD with the C key and following the installer instructions. It's easy to do. I would suggest buying a retail version of OS 10.3 from the swaplist or eBay as soon as possible. Yes, thanks, I already zeroed in on two good deals at ebay for the 10.4/Tiger but I won't need them if I don't get the G4-without-OS. Your G3 iBook can also run OS 10.3 with enough RAM and it would be a much better Mac'n experience than OS 9.1 ever was. I just don't think these 6gig'er clamshells are enough HD memory. I have hardly anything on this current G3 clamshell (IE-OE-MS Office 98, etc.) and it's slow as molasses and bogs down, etc. which is why I was looking for a newer model with more mhz and more ram and mucho bigger HD. Also it's awful heavy on the lap! ;-) If you are going to buy a G4 iBook you should put a decent OS on it. Definitely, I agree, thanks! Some good deals on OSX's at ebay, haven't seen too many through the swap list yet. And since most newer macs COME WITH an OSX, the only reason I was needing one was due to this possible G4-deal w/o the OS, but thought if I could get it revved up first w/the OS9 which I already have... but that's history now, I'm thinking it wouldn't work and if I get the G4 I would just go ahead and get a separate OSX for it at the same time since the prices don't look as bad as I expected (for full install versions). OS 9 on a G4 is like driving a Cadillac with a Chevette motor in it. Ron heehee, good one! ;-) What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster? Ram size, or HD size, or mhz/ghz size? Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. THANKS Ron, Dylan, and Laurent! With all that advice I now have a much clearer idea of what I'm doing! Best regards, Gail - on 09/12/05 05:23, BGbank at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings folks, This may be a no-brainer Q... but I
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Not that it would help Gail's situation, but I'm curious: Could a mac without an OS on it's hard drive be started up in target mode? And if it could, would doing a full backup with a program like SuperDuper be able to put a working OS, as well as other files, on the one with the blank drive, from a working Mac? LaterHoward -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 09/12/05 12:47, Howard Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that it would help Gail's situation, but I'm curious: Could a mac without an OS on it's hard drive be started up in target mode? And if it could, would doing a full backup with a program like SuperDuper be able to put a working OS, as well as other files, on the one with the blank drive, from a working Mac? It should as the target disk mode is implemented in the firmware, even before the machine tries to boot. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
On Dec 9, 2005, at 10:47 AM, Howard Katz wrote: Not that it would help Gail's situation, but I'm curious: Could a mac without an OS on it's hard drive be started up in target mode? And if it could, would doing a full backup with a program like SuperDuper be able to put a working OS, as well as other files, on the one with the blank drive, from a working Mac? Yes. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS 9 on a G4 is like driving a Cadillac with a Chevette motor in it. Ron heehee, good one! ;-) What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster? Ram size, or HD size, or mhz/ghz size? Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. THANKS Ron, Dylan, and Laurent! With all that advice I now have a much clearer idea of what I'm doing! Best regards, Gail - Everything like MHz, RAM and even HD speed makes a difference in how the OS will run. For the average user hard drive size only makes a difference if it gets loaded too full, but mostly it just limits you to how many apps you can have installed. Adding RAM will improve any Macs performance and is easy to do. Adding RAM is always the first thing I do with a new Mac and I try to add as much as I can afford. In my opinion RAM gives the best return on your money of all the things you can add to a computer. I have a Clamshell 466MHz G3 with a 10GB drive that I have Tiger running on with 320MB of RAM and it does ok on surfing and light duty. I may end up putting Panther back on it because it was snappier than Tiger is and for what I use the Clamshell for I don't need the added perks of Tiger. I also had a 300MHz Clamshell with 320MB of RAM and a 6GB hard drive running Panther but the hard drive size was too small for what I want loaded on it. Panther ran fine on it though and with thorough cleaning and burning files to CD's it is easy to keep the junk from overloading the Mac. One thing about the seller who has the iBook is that he is probably reputable but just does not have the OS CD's to sell with it. Too many eBay sellers sell computers with a newer OS but no CD's which is software pirating and generally is a sign of their honesty. Without the CD's the hard drive should be wiped clean. So at least he didn't add Panther or Tiger to the iBook to sell it for more money and that's a good sign. Even the Swaplist has far too many Macs for sale that have newer OS's installed without CD's included in the sale, which is pirated software and also a violation of the LEM rules but apparently the nanny never reads the posts. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster? Max RAM will have the most salutory effect - I'd say *AT LEAST* 512 MB is needed, 1 GB or more is even better. Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. It'll function okay but whether it's fast enough is a subjective opinion. I'd say that with max RAM a G3/500 iBook would be more than adequate for light duty use, but if you do more than basic stuff you'll be much happier with at least a G4/800 iBook. Gene Osburn Common sense...isn't -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Gene - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Gene Osburn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 1:33 PM What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster? Max RAM will have the most salutory effect - I'd say *AT LEAST* 512 MB is needed, 1 GB or more is even better. Thank you! The G4-800mhz they are selling has 640mb which the specs say is the max for that model. Of course the G3-300mhz clamshell I'm using now has the bare MINImum, 128. Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. It'll function okay but whether it's fast enough is a subjective opinion. I'd say that with max RAM a G3/500 iBook would be more than adequate for light duty use, but if you do more than basic stuff you'll be much happier with at least a G4/800 iBook. Gene Osburn Common sense...isn't The G3-500mhz w/Tiger is the second item I was looking at, at ebay (in addition to looking at the G4-800mhz w/o OS). I guess I do basic stuff because have never had a machine big/fast enough to do much else, and only recently got high-speed cable and before that, a total bear to even visit ebay at all. The G3-500mhz has 384mb ram and a whopping 55gig HD. Which is all good if the 500mhz would work OK w/Tiger but since that's what he has on it, maybe it works fine. Thanks Gene! Gail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 1:21 PM Everything like MHz, RAM and even HD speed makes a difference in how the OS will run. For the average user hard drive size only makes a difference if it gets loaded too full, but mostly it just limits you to how many apps you can have installed. Adding RAM will improve any Macs performance and is easy to do. Adding RAM is always the first thing I do with a new Mac and I try to add as much as I can afford. In my opinion RAM gives the best return on your money of all the things you can add to a computer. Thanks for the advice. I should've put more RAM on this clamshell a long time ago. I had always heard clamshells were hard to open and install RAM so was never anxious to mess with it. Would rather put any $ toward something a little bigger/faster. I have a Clamshell 466MHz G3 with a 10GB drive that I have Tiger running on with 320MB of RAM and it does ok on surfing and light duty. I may end up putting Panther back on it because it was snappier than Tiger is and for what I use the Clamshell for I don't need the added perks of Tiger. I can't imagine fitting another OS of any kind of this 6gig, and I really don't have that many apps for the same reason. So I keep it for internet and email and some word-processing, but want to add a newer faster laptop. And I definitely wanted Tiger on whatever newer machine because I heard that spotlight is awesome for finding emails (I heard Walt Mossberg, WSJ techie, on Charlie Rose one night rave about spotlight and how easy it is to find emails, and that's exactly why I want Tiger. I've got a yahoo email list and I just can't find emails anymore - I've reached the boggled-mind limit, lol). I also had a 300MHz Clamshell with 320MB of RAM and a 6GB hard drive running Panther but the hard drive size was too small for what I want loaded on it. Panther ran fine on it though and with thorough cleaning and burning files to CD's it is easy to keep the junk from overloading the Mac. Well, that's yet another reason I wanted a newer ibook, so it would have CDRW on it! Zips don't hold much anymore and I want an INTERNAL CDRW vs. all this stuff hanging off the ibook, like the zip and USB-hub, etc. One thing about the seller who has the iBook is that he is probably reputable but just does not have the OS CD's to sell with it. Too many eBay sellers sell computers with a newer OS but no CD's which is software pirating and generally is a sign of their honesty. Without the CD's the hard drive should be wiped clean. So at least he didn't add Panther or Tiger to the iBook to sell it for more money and that's a good sign. Thank you for explaining that! I just replied to the guy and asked why he did NOT have an OS on it! ;-) Thanks! BTW, it appears they sell more pc's than mac's so I was thinking maybe they didn't know too much about macs. Even the Swaplist has far too many Macs for sale that have newer OS's installed without CD's included in the sale, which is pirated software and also a violation of the LEM rules but apparently the nanny never reads the posts. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ Ops! Cat's out of the bag now! ;-) Gail --- On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS 9 on a G4 is like driving a Cadillac with a Chevette motor in it. Ron heehee, good one! ;-) What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster? Ram size, or HD size, or mhz/ghz size? Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. THANKS Ron, Dylan, and Laurent! With all that advice I now have a much clearer idea of what I'm doing! Best regards, Gail - -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Clark Martin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 1:39 PM At 10:33 AM -0800 12/9/05, Gene Osburn wrote: What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster? Max RAM will have the most salutory effect - I'd say *AT LEAST* 512 MB is needed, 1 GB or more is even better. I concur. I used my iBook G4 for the first week with just the stock 256Mb. Every time I switch apps the beach ball cursor sat and spun. When I got the 1Gb upgrade it just jumped from app to app. At first I considered the 512Mb upgrade. But then I figured I would eventually go to 1Gb (1.25 Gb total) and my guesstimate for the cost made the 1Gb now the more economical over all. More is better! And that dang beachball, lol. I am too familiar with that thang! /Gail --- Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. It'll function okay but whether it's fast enough is a subjective opinion. I'd say that with max RAM a G3/500 iBook would be more than adequate for light duty use, but if you do more than basic stuff you'll be much happier with at least a G4/800 iBook. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
snip I've got a yahoo email list and I just can't find emails anymore - I've reached the boggled-mind limit, lol). ah, the beauty of Gmail. I would never argue against the merits of Tiger, but if the email is the one thing pushing you over the edge, you might want to consider moving to gmail. I would assume anyone with gmail would have plenty of invites - I know I have 100. --Van -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
G3 iBook LCD question
Hi, what is the exchange matrix for LCDs for iBooks, starting with the 500mhz dual USB on up? I recently obtained an iBook 500mhz with a busted screen. I was told all of the non-clamshell G3 iBook LCDs could be used with it, but the 800mhz and 900mhz LCDs would be a slightly different color. Thank you for the help! xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo Ivy F., AL Roll Tide! Beiges, 'Books and other oddities xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Gene - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you! The G4-800mhz they are selling has 640mb which the specs say is the max for that model. Of course the G3-300mhz clamshell I'm using now has the bare MINImum, 128. Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. It'll function okay but whether it's fast enough is a subjective opinion. I'd say that with max RAM a G3/500 iBook would be more than adequate for light duty use, but if you do more than basic stuff you'll be much happier with at least a G4/800 iBook. Gene Osburn Common sense...isn't The G3-500mhz w/Tiger is the second item I was looking at, at ebay (in addition to looking at the G4-800mhz w/o OS). I guess I do basic stuff because have never had a machine big/fast enough to do much else, and only recently got high-speed cable and before that, a total bear to even visit ebay at all. The G3-500mhz has 384mb ram and a whopping 55gig HD. Which is all good if the 500mhz would work OK w/Tiger but since that's what he has on it, maybe it works fine. Thanks Gene! Gail The advise I always give is spend as much as you can afford. I can't imagine 800MHz as only being adequate for Tiger. My 466 Clam does just fine with surfing, email and ebaying. My 1.5GHz G4 Powerbook doesn't do those things that much faster. A 300MHz G3 iBook would be pushing it but an 800MHz G4 iBook will handle Tiger with no problems. iBooks are made for Light duty use and he's comparing it to something you would need a G4 Powerbook or G4/G5 Powermac for. Anyone using high-end graphics apps or video apps should not be using an iBook anyway. iBooks are for the home computer user and an 800MHz G4 has plenty of oomph for that. As mentioned 512MB or better RAM helps too. Now that you have fast internet you can get on the wifi wagon too ! The main reason I have a Powerbook and iBook is because I can use wifi and lounge on the couch, in bed or out enjoying the weather. (I live in FL so it's nice enough to go outside in my shorts and iBook here) Caution though. it can make one turn into a couch potato ;-) -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Gmail Gbooks - (was: Re: Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question)
Van Snyder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 2:43 PM snip I've got a yahoo email list and I just can't find emails anymore - I've reached the boggled-mind limit lol). ah, the beauty of Gmail. I would never argue against the merits of Tiger, but if the email is the one thing pushing you over the edge, you might want to consider moving to gmail. I would assume anyone with gmail would have plenty of invites - I know I have 100. --Van Hi Van, when I first heard of gmail sometime back I got excited about it and tried to sign up but at the time it said I didn't have the correct-something... maybe it was browser, can't remember now. I'm using the highest IE there is for OS9, so I'm stuck until I move up to OSX. So I checked again just now and it says something about by invite only...? A few days ago I saw two authors on TV who had written books about google... The Search and I think the other was Google Company. Maybe it's the same for all search engine companies, but the one man said google stores every single search done by every single person on the planet which, google says, is so they can come up with better services, etc., but this author said it could also be used, for instance, in divorce cases where a spouse could get all the search info on their partner, etc., so he didn't think it was a good thing. Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 3:55 PM And Gmail has none of that flashy crap all over the page that Yahoo seems to get more and more of.. I highly recommend Gmail and I was never a fan of on-line mail services until Gmail came along. I've never used webmail either... too cumbersome, too slow (or at least it WAS). Who wants to have to go log on the net just to get into your email? I had a Yahoo account for years but rarely used it and I use Gmail exclusively now. Wow, big switch. I've never used any yahoo accounts I ever made either. They almost make you have one just to use their other services, but it's a waste of space. I don't like yahoo search engine either. I love google search, totally clean search page, no junk, etc. I don't use my ISP email at all because Gmail is so much easier. Wow, now THAT I would have to see and experience! ;-) I've used Gmail for a couple of years almost and have used 7% of my storage space and I could have thrown away a bunch more but I keep an archive of this list and 3 others. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ That's amazing... I may have to give it a test run with one of my lesser accounts and see how it feels. Thanks! Very interesting! I do LOVE google search feature, and I love all websites that have a google search feature. None others compare to it as far as I'm concerned. So what if they are saving all my searches, lol, I'm probably already considered a domestic terrorist (=by having politically incorrect opinions). Gail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Gmail Gbooks - (was: Re: Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question)
On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Van, when I first heard of gmail sometime back I got excited about it and tried to sign up but at the time it said I didn't have the correct-something... maybe it was browser, can't remember now. I'm using the highest IE there is for OS9, so I'm stuck until I move up to OSX. So I checked again just now and it says something about by invite only...? Try Wacom Mozilla, it works fine with OS 9 and gmail: http://www.wamcom.org/ And you can get rid of Internet Exploiter hopefully ! Wamcom Mozilla handles a lot of the new sites too but you may still need Exploiter for site like Bank sites. Another alternative is iCab: http://www.icab.de A few days ago I saw two authors on TV who had written books about google... The Search and I think the other was Google Company. Maybe it's the same for all search engine companies, but the one man said google stores every single search done by every single person on the planet which, google says, is so they can come up with better services, etc., but this author said it could also be used, for instance, in divorce cases where a spouse could get all the search info on their partner, etc., so he didn't think it was a good thing. Wow, big switch. I've never used any yahoo accounts I ever made either. They almost make you have one just to use their other services, but it's a waste of space. LOL, that's the only reason I have one too. So what if they are saving all my searches, lol, I'm probably already considered a domestic terrorist (=by having politically incorrect opinions). Gail I'm sure you'll be in good company on those lists ! I'm on all the lists. I'd rather be politically incorrect any day. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 4:33 PM The advise I always give is spend as much as you can afford. I can't imagine 800MHz as only being adequate for Tiger. My 466 Clam does just fine with surfing, email and ebaying. My 1.5GHz G4 Powerbook doesn't do those things that much faster. A 300MHz G3 iBook would be pushing it but an 800MHz G4 iBook will handle Tiger with no problems. That's great to know. The G3-500mhz was just sold (Mr. Frenchy), but the G4-800mhz with No-OS ends at 9pm and one person already did bid on it finally. Don't think I can stay awake 'til 9pm... iBooks are made for Light duty use and he's comparing it to something you would need a G4 Powerbook or G4/G5 Powermac for. Anyone using high-end graphics apps or video apps should not be using an iBook anyway. iBooks are for the home computer user and an 800MHz G4 has plenty of oomph for that. As mentioned 512MB or better RAM helps too. Awesome! Then that G4 is a good machine for Tiger. No video apps or high-end graphics here, mostly Text Text and more Text, lol, and a few pics now and then. Now that you have fast internet you can get on the wifi wagon too ! heehee, would love to be completely wireless! Mr. French's G3-500mhz actually had an airport card (if he is for real, that is), as most of them do not include the airport card. The main reason I have a Powerbook and iBook is because I can use wifi and lounge on the couch, in bed or out enjoying the weather. (I live in FL so it's nice enough to go outside in my shorts and iBook here) That's the only place I ever do computing is legs stretched out on the bed. Sat crouched over a desk for too many years on the job. So this is the only way to compute! As for outside, enjoy while you can as this is THE ONLY time of year that outside is even bearable. -- Also a native Floridian -- but can't take the 7-months of humidity-h***. Ugh! Caution though. it can make one turn into a couch potato ;-) -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ heehee, too late, already happened -- even WITH wires! /Gail On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you! The G4-800mhz they are selling has 640mb which the specs say is the max for that model. Of course the G3-300mhz clamshell I'm using now has the bare MINImum, 128. Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. It'll function okay but whether it's fast enough is a subjective opinion. I'd say that with max RAM a G3/500 iBook would be more than adequate for light duty use, but if you do more than basic stuff you'll be much happier with at least a G4/800 iBook. Gene Osburn Common sense...isn't The G3-500mhz w/Tiger is the second item I was looking at, at ebay (in addition to looking at the G4-800mhz w/o OS). I guess I do basic stuff because have never had a machine big/fast enough to do much else, and only recently got high-speed cable and before that, a total bear to even visit ebay at all. The G3-500mhz has 384mb ram and a whopping 55gig HD. Which is all good if the 500mhz would work OK w/Tiger but since that's what he has on it, maybe it works fine. Thanks Gene! Gail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Gmail Gbooks - (was: Re: Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question)
I'm sure you'll be in good company on those lists ! I'm on all the lists. I'd rather be politically incorrect any day. I do agree with you. Back on topic, I'm using Gmail with the POP3 turned on, with Mail on my Lombard, and I find it's a lot faster than the webmail, plus it has the beauty of the Mac to go with it.. :D Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
In a message dated 11/25/05 9:38:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been trying out some various apple laptops, primarily for use as a writing tool, though I want to surf wirelessly. Hello, I would like to opine on this. I am a writer (legal) as well, and I surf endlessly on legal sites to research. While I do have an iBook, I prefer using my ancient Powerbook 5300c or 3400c for my daily writing, especially when I am out and about. First of all, the keyboard on these two machines (identical keyboards) are in my opinion the very best Apple keyboard for typing. The keys have a nice feel to them, and take a dedicated finger-punch to register, and the spring feel seems just right, for me at least. Secondly, both have cheap, cheap ($5-$10) batteries out there that still hold good charges; the 3400c more so. I can pack my two 3400c li-ion batteries, or my four 5300c ni-cads, and have productivity at Starbucks or the Waffle House for 4-5 hours. Also, both can be made to be wireless. Most importantly, while neither is a lightweight compared to today's moden Apple laptops, both are pretty ruggedly built, and neither is expensive enough to worry about getting stolen or broken. xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo Ivy F., AL Roll Tide! Beiges, 'Books and other oddities xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
In a message dated 11/25/05 9:38:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a 1400 - too slow on the Internet. I bought a Clamshell iBook. I liked it, but somehow my daughter ended up with it. Forgot to mention: The 1400 has a good keyboard also (I do not THINK it is the same as the 5300/3400 type?). If a 1400 is too slow, then a 5300 would be intolerably so for you. But maybe a G3 upgrade for the 1400 would be the solution. Their batteries are expensive and getting hard to find in good condition, though. xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo Ivy F., AL Roll Tide! Beiges, 'Books and other oddities xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
I've got a 2400c on the way now. I'm hoping that it handles my needs for typing and wireless surfing. If not, I'll probably try a 3400c. Thanks Tom On 11/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/25/05 9:38:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a 1400 - too slow on the Internet. I bought a Clamshell iBook. I liked it, but somehow my daughter ended up with it. Forgot to mention: The 1400 has a good keyboard also (I do not THINK it is the same as the 5300/3400 type?). If a 1400 is too slow, then a 5300 would be intolerably so for you. But maybe a G3 upgrade for the 1400 would be the solution. Their batteries are expensive and getting hard to find in good condition, though. xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo Ivy F., AL Roll Tide! Beiges, 'Books and other oddities xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo -- My wife makes itty bitty horse tack http://www.darkstormstudio.com http://editor.weeklyzone.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
I had a 2400c G/3 320 and it was pretty fast and small, but the battery life forced me to get a G/3 600 iBook, dual USB and it is all I take on trips now. It has great battery life, great WIFI range, is faster than the 2400c and is much more convenient than the strange rear input panel the 2400c has. That said, I did get another 2400c after I sold my G/3 320 for lots of money, and play with it every once and a while even now. I have had my iBook 600 for a couple of years now and so far no problems at all. Tom On 11/26/05 7:58 AM, Tom W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a 2400c on the way now. I'm hoping that it handles my needs for typing and wireless surfing. If not, I'll probably try a 3400c. Thanks Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
FWIW I have dock for the 2400c than makes it much easier to use, but is now portable by any means. Tom On 11/26/05 8:37 AM, Tom Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is much more convenient than the strange rear input panel the 2400c has. That said, I did get another 2400c after I sold my G/3 320 for lots of money, and play with it every once and a while even now. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
On Nov 25, 2005, at 7:37 PM, The Northerner wrote: I have been trying out some various apple laptops, primarily for use as a writing tool, though I want to surf wirelessly. I love those 12 white iBooks and would buy a used one of those in a heartbeat, except I keep running into people who are having repair nightmares with them. Are the white iBooks really just waiting to die? I just don't want to spend $350-$450 on a 12 iBook and have the logic board go after a few months. Only one of the several students at school with white iBooks (of various vintage) has had to get a new one...and that was because her original one was stolen. While there are troubles with some of them (and I'm sure someone on this list will come up with nightmarish stories just to contradict me) the large majority of them are just fine. The Internet is a gigantic squeaky wheel amplifier. If you listen seriously to them Apple cannot get any working equipment out the door. That said, my pismo is quite nice, but for portability, a 12 ibook is really hard to beat. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig that says 'NI!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
In a message dated 11/25/05 6:38:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do pismos really run a lot cooler than wallstreets? Yes, very much so. And, they are a lot lighter, too. If you must have the most current Mac OS possible, the Pismo is your machine; otherwise the Lombard (lacks built-in Firewire, lacks built-in Airport) is essentially the same machine. I own both, and both have been upgraded to the greatest extent possible using Apple features and third-party replacement drives. The Pismo is 500 MHz, a 60 GB hard drive, and a dual-layer DVD-ROM-R-R/W drive (Pioneer DVR-K05); the Lombard is 400 MHz (built-in DVD decoder), a 60 GB hard drive, and a dual-layer DVD-ROM-R-R/W drive (Teac UJ-845). One thing that is important to me is DVD performance, and for this purpose the Pismo and Lombard are equal, if a built-in DVD writer is used (limited to 4X most of the time; limited to 2X in a few cases, both on account of problems with the internal drive bay and its supporting chip set); whereas the Pismo has no such limits provided an external Firewire DVD-ROM-R-R/W drive (Pioneer DVR-110) is used instead (8X is easily achieved with an external writer). Either machine is usable with my digicams as these support both USB and Firewire; USB is used as a fallback connection with my Fuji Finepix Pro S2 on the Lombard, whereas Firewire is used as the preferred connection on the Pismo with the same digicam. Both machines are running Mac OS 10.3.9. The Pismo is easily upgradeable to 10.4; the Lombard is less easily so upgraded. Personally, I prefer the Pismo as it has essentially the same connectivity as my Rev. 2 BW 450 MHz desktop. But, the BW has no problems with internal DVD drive performance (it employs the recommended, and required for 8X performance 80-wire/40-pin cable). Both support 10/100 Ethernet, which is my in-house networking standard. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
I use a 12 g4/800 iBook (refurb) that was purchased 18 months ago from Apple. It has never given me any problems and I have been very pleased. My only complaint is that it does get warm on the bottom after an hour or so of steady use. To avoid the heat problem, I either carry it in a LapTrap case or carry a CoolPad (roadwired?) and don't worry about it. JeffW. iBook G4/800/640MB/30GB/Combo/Airport I have been trying out some various apple laptops, primarily for use as a writing tool, though I want to surf wirelessly. I love those 12 white iBooks and would buy a used one of those in a heartbeat, except I keep running into people who are having repair nightmares with them. Are the white iBooks really just waiting to die? I just don't want to spend $350-$450 on a 12 iBook and have the logic board go after a few months. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
I guess I'll have to chime in like that squeaky wheel and weigh in against certain iBooks: The white iBook G3 series--all of them--are dogs and to be avoided like the plague. And it is not just cranky complaint, it is acknowledged so by Apple, who still have an extended repair program in place to handle the failures of logic board, screens and screen power and data connections. Furthermore, if they fail in any other regard than the extended program covers, then you are in for either an expensive or complicated repair: expensive if you have to hire someone to do the work, and complicated if you do it your self. The market believes them to be dogs as well, for they continually sell at values well below the older Lombard and Pismos on eBay, yes, but more importantly, in local classifieds of computer savvy locations like SF and Seattle. The iceBook G4 on the other hand seems to have corrected many of the G3 flaws. I enjoy the ice form factor immensely. BUT, even the G4 iceBooks are very difficult to self serve in repairs. I also still have affection for my G3 upgraded PowerBook 1400c. The keyboard is the best ever provided by Apple. It is light, and the active matrix screen is gorgeous. A G3 upgraded 1400 can fly past many stock Wallstreets in finder and non-ram intensive apps. It chokes at ram, but I did choose to try the flash ram/virtual memory OS load, and it works like a charm. It is easy to self service. It is a powerful net surfer with a G3 chip, even the 250 Newer chip, but it cannot and will not ever enjoy USB or Firewire connections. If you use SCSI peripherals, then you are in luck. it is stuck in OS9 at best, and web surfing options are shrinking in that platform. Explorer has not been updated, Mozilla is buggy, Netscape--forget it, iCab is nifty... And SO cheap to buy and build up these days! 2400s...nifty, but clunky as far as all the needed peripherals. 3400s...great, simply great. Slightly heavy, very thick. Easy to service. Which is good because failure rates are increasing. These machines seem to be slightly less robust than the 1400s build-wise, especially at the track-pad clicker, which is the most frequently broken compenent I see. And no wonder, underneath it's a tab of weak plastic against a steel spring--guess who wins over time? Like the 1400s, cheap to buy, build and repair. Basically stuck at OS9 also, although X-Post Facto will induce a load of X.1 (and the loss of several functions). Lomards are robust machines, easy to fix, handle X OK, but need special tricks to load past X.3. Have USB, SCSI, no built in firewire, and you cannot use firewire and a wireless card simultaneously due to the reduction of PCMCI slots to one. You could use a wireless e-net bridge and firewire at the same time though. Getting cheap enough to be good travel in risky places units. If stolen, or seared by molten lava, relatively cheap to replace. Pismo--a very sweet machine. With 1 gig of ram and the 500 chip, a relative screamer compared to the pack. Only the G4 iceBooks compare in price and performance, but the Pismo is supremely upgradeable in ram load and processor (even to G4), has more connectivity and expansion options, and can handle even the latest X OS. Interestingly, you even see some tiBooks at this price range, but the early ti's are not as fast as a G4 boosted Pismo, nor as robust apprearance wise-issues with dents and paint chipping abound. If you have the money, my suggestion would be a Pismo. Yours, Run Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:37:50 -0500 (EST) From: The Northerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop I have been trying out some various apple laptops, primarily for use as a writing tool, though I want to surf wirelessly. I have a 1400 - too slow on the Internet. I bought a Clamshell iBook. I liked it, but somehow my daughter ended up with it. Then I bought a severely upgraded wallstreet, now a g4-500, and while I love the way it works, I dislike both the size and the heat factor. As a writer, I feel distracted by the heat coming up through my fingers. I have heard the Pismos run much cooler. I want small size, battery longevity, cool running, wireless ability (doesn't have to be built-in as long as I can add on). -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
On Nov 26, 2005, at 15:14, G-Books wrote: I have been trying out some various apple laptops, primarily for use as a writing tool, though I want to surf wirelessly. Then I bought a severely upgraded wallstreet, now a g4-500, and while I love the way it works, I dislike both the size and the heat factor. As a writer, I feel distracted by the heat coming up through my fingers. I have heard the Pismos run much cooler. I want small size, battery longevity, cool running, wireless ability (doesn't have to be built-in as long as I can add on). The heat issue is probably connected with the G4 upgrade. I never noticed the heat with the 266 MHz Wallstreet I used to have. My Mom has it now, Wallstreets are tough. If all you are doing is writing and surfing then a stock Wallstreet 300 MHz processor should work fine and will run a lot cooler. I'm sure you could find someone with a stock 300 MHz wallstreet that would be happy to trade. Doesn't do much for the weight issue though. The Lombard and Pismo are both thinner and lighter than the Wallstreet. if you wanted a Lombard I could make you a deal on a 333 Lombard with a 400 MHz CPU. Andrew in Ann Arbor technology is the answer, what was the question? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
My Pismo 500 G/3 is not as fast as my iBook 600 G/3 and that is the cold hard fact. The Pismo is a great machine, but it is nowhere as portable as the iBook 600, battery (on one battery) life is much less and WIFI range is the same for both. Tom On 11/26/05 4:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pismo--a very sweet machine. With 1 gig of ram and the 500 chip, a relative screamer compared to the pack. Only the G4 iceBooks compare in price and performance, but the Pismo is supremely upgradeable in ram load and processor (even to G4), has more connectivity and expansion options, and can handle even the latest X OS. Interestingly, you even see some tiBooks at this price range, but the early ti's are not as fast as a G4 boosted Pismo, nor as robust apprearance wise-issues with dents and paint chipping abound. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
I have been trying out some various apple laptops, primarily for use as a writing tool, though I want to surf wirelessly. I want small size, battery longevity, cool running, wireless ability (doesn't have to be built-in as long as I can add on). I love those 12 white iBooks and would buy a used one of those in a heartbeat, except I keep running into people who are having repair nightmares with them. Are the white iBooks really just waiting to die? I just don't want to spend $350-$450 on a 12 iBook and have the logic board go after a few months. AFAIK you only hear about problems with iBooks because Mac users are so particular and so vocal; they're actually quite reliable 'Books that perform nicely for your intended uses. I really liked the G3/500 IceBook that I owned for about a year, and never had a problem. The 500-600 MHz models should be available at decent prices via ebay and/or the Swaplist, and would do quite well for you. My thoughts on how well other 'Books I've owned meet your criteria: - The 2400c is a sweet little PB, BUT... Good batteries (more than 60-90 minutes of runtime) can be hard to come by. You might also find the 800x600 10.4 display a little cramped. If you can find one that's been upgraded with a G3 processor and/or RAM maxed to 112 MB, you might be able to live with the limitations. The keyboard's only 87% of standard size so you might find it a little cramped (I didn't but some folks do). - A 1400c with a G3 upgrade and RAM maxed at 64 MB is a VERY nice writing machine -- one of the best keyboards ever in a laptop. The 800x600 11.3 display seemed to feel a little bigger to me; only about an inch larger diagonally than the 2400's, but felt a bit more usable. (I have a G3/250 1400 I'm looking to sell, if you wanna contact me offlist.) - If you don't mind the heft (8 lbs. or more with battery, etc.) you'll find the 3400c an EXCELLENT 'Book for writing and basic internet. The display is also only 800x600 but it's 12...and the 144 MB RAM max is is a nice upgrade compared to the 1400 and 2400; more than adequate for running OS 9.1 comfortably. I've just switched to a 240 MHz model as my second Mac, primarily for exactly the uses you indicate -- writing and internet. All three of the x400 'Books do wi-fi internet quite well with PC cards, so basically your choice of which to use will largely depend one three factors: budget, display size preference, and speed (what's fast enough for you). The Dual USB 12 iBooks are of course more modern and more powerful and the 1024x768 display would feel very roomy compared to the older 'Books, but you can save a pretty penny by going with one of the x400's. HTH, -- Gene Osburn Friends don't let friends do Windows -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Question about mail
Does anyone know how to ad read next buttons to the mail program? Is there a fix out there? Thanks, NBT -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question about mail
While I don't know how to add this button, I do have something that may help. At least while in Organize by Threads mode, using the right arrow key on the keyboard accomplishes this. Up arrow goes to the next thread when you've read all the messages in a thread. Regards, Harry Corsover --- On Nov 25, 2005, at 4:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to ad read next buttons to the mail program? Is there a fix out there? Thanks, = Feel better, look younger, live longer and make more money with Synergy Worldwide: Harry Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED]303-909-9218 www.harryc.biz -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
I have been trying out some various apple laptops, primarily for use as a writing tool, though I want to surf wirelessly. I have a 1400 - too slow on the Internet. I bought a Clamshell iBook. I liked it, but somehow my daughter ended up with it. Then I bought a severely upgraded wallstreet, now a g4-500, and while I love the way it works, I dislike both the size and the heat factor. As a writer, I feel distracted by the heat coming up through my fingers. I have heard the Pismos run much cooler. I want small size, battery longevity, cool running, wireless ability (doesn't have to be built-in as long as I can add on). I love those 12 white iBooks and would buy a used one of those in a heartbeat, except I keep running into people who are having repair nightmares with them. Do pismos really run a lot cooler than wallstreets? Are the white iBooks really just waiting to die? I just don't want to spend $350-$450 on a 12 iBook and have the logic board go after a few months. Would like to hear comments from any other users on the above. Tom __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question re: buying a used Apple Laptop
Tom: I did the Windows to Mac switch about 7 months ago. I was so impressed with the desktop transition that I bought a used 12 iBook also. My reasons for buying it are much like yours...I wanted to wirelessly access the internet at home and office and I use it primarily for writing. The heat factor was a bit troublesome at first. But, I bought a set of laptop bumpers from www.bodelin.com and that helped both the heat issue and ergonomics. I understand your concern for the issue of problems after a few months. While I only have 7 months under my belt with this new/used machine, I believe it to very solid. I use my approximately 4 hours a day, primarily on battery and have had absolutely no problems with it. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one just like it. Harvey On 11/25/05 8:37 PM, The Northerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying out some various apple laptops, primarily for use as a writing tool, though I want to surf wirelessly. I have a 1400 - too slow on the Internet. I bought a Clamshell iBook. I liked it, but somehow my daughter ended up with it. Then I bought a severely upgraded wallstreet, now a g4-500, and while I love the way it works, I dislike both the size and the heat factor. As a writer, I feel distracted by the heat coming up through my fingers. I have heard the Pismos run much cooler. I want small size, battery longevity, cool running, wireless ability (doesn't have to be built-in as long as I can add on). I love those 12 white iBooks and would buy a used one of those in a heartbeat, except I keep running into people who are having repair nightmares with them. Do pismos really run a lot cooler than wallstreets? Are the white iBooks really just waiting to die? I just don't want to spend $350-$450 on a 12 iBook and have the logic board go after a few months. Would like to hear comments from any other users on the above. Tom __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question about mail
Harry is correct you can use the up and down arrow to go from one mail to another and if you want to read the contents just press enter and if you want to close the one that you opened press apple and w to close. Clem On Nov 25, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Harry Corsover wrote: While I don't know how to add this button, I do have something that may help. At least while in Organize by Threads mode, using the right arrow key on the keyboard accomplishes this. Up arrow goes to the next thread when you've read all the messages in a thread. Regards, Harry Corsover --- On Nov 25, 2005, at 4:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to ad read next buttons to the mail program? Is there a fix out there? Thanks, = Feel better, look younger, live longer and make more money with Synergy Worldwide: Harry Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED]303-909-9218 www.harryc.biz -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Question about mail
Yes. I knew that was an option. I was hoping for a real next and previous button. Thanks for the suggestion anyhow. NBT On Nov 25, 2005, at 11:46 PM, Clem Bacani wrote: Harry is correct you can use the up and down arrow to go from one mail to another and if you want to read the contents just press enter and if you want to close the one that you opened press apple and w to close. Clem On Nov 25, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Harry Corsover wrote: While I don't know how to add this button, I do have something that may help. At least while in Organize by Threads mode, using the right arrow key on the keyboard accomplishes this. Up arrow goes to the next thread when you've read all the messages in a thread. Regards, Harry Corsover --- On Nov 25, 2005, at 4:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to ad read next buttons to the mail program? Is there a fix out there? Thanks, = Feel better, look younger, live longer and make more money with Synergy Worldwide: Harry Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED]303-909-9218 www.harryc.biz -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4 blue chip question
Tech support from powerlogix states that the accellerator can only be flashed once. and that they no longer offer the product. On Nov 6, 2005, at 12:18 PM, Tom and Lisa P wrote: Hello. I wander about in LEM with a wallstreet I and a blue chip powerlogix g4 upgrade. I have only 2 meg video ram. I obtain wallstreet II bottom and a wallstreet II processor. I load os 9.2.1 on the hard drive (spare that has no os on it) and with the wallstreet II processor it boots up and all is well with the video. I run the powerlogix flash utility with extensions off and the machine powers down. I reset Power management with the wallstreet 3 key + power salute. Then I switch processor, and restart. No video. Put wallstreet II processor back in and video returns. Does anyone out there have experience with this chip upgrade. HELP. TIA If it runs but no video, this is a classic problem when trying to run WS1 CPUs (or CPUs with WS1 ROMS) on a WS2 motherboard. What is the flash upgrade for the powerlogix CPU supposed to do ? Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo ram and Tiger question
On Nov 4, 2005, at 9:07 PM, kaldav wrote: Hello, I have just installed a larger memory module into my Pismo running 10.4.2. It had two 128 mb modules = 256 mb ram total. Therefore, I put in one 256 mb from my ibook G3 300 mhz, leaving the other 128 mb in place = total 384 mb. With the 256 mb only, it ran Tiger. However, once I put the other 256 mb in, it starts up fine, lets me log in and then the cursor freezes. I wondered it if was bad ram, but then why does it boot up? Does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks. Because that's how far it gets before it freezes..it won't mess up until it actually accesses the ram.:-) Double check all connections, and reseat the RAM and CPU. These are the usual causes of such problems. if it persists, then the the system isn't happy with the Ram. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo memory question
on 06/11/05 02:08, kaldav at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have recently acquired a 500 mhz Pismo running 10.4.2 and would appreciate members' opinions on the following: 1. Memory- installed are two 128 mb ram cards for a total of 256 mb ram. I have an additional 256 mb LP PC100 32x64 CL2 SDRAM SO DIMM piece of ram, yet when I installed it in the top memory slot of the Pismo the machine froze after starting up with Tiger. The Pismo had worked before with only 256 mb of ram. thought the ram for the G3 ibook 300 mhz should work with the Pismo. I also have tried another 512 mb PC133 piece of ram a dealer said would work, but the Pismo only saw half of it. Is the Pismo very specific about memory? Yes, the Pismo is kind of specific about memory. You really have to find memory that is advertised for the Pismo or for previous, older models. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] heads down: [Sun] adj. Concentrating, usually so heavily and for so long that everything outside the focus area is missed. See also hack mode and larval stage, although this mode is hardly confined to fledgling hackers. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
G4 blue chip question
Hello. I wander about in LEM with a wallstreet I and a blue chip powerlogix g4 upgrade. I have only 2 meg video ram. I obtain wallstreet II bottom and a wallstreet II processor. I load os 9.2.1 on the hard drive (spare that has no os on it) and with the wallstreet II processor it boots up and all is well with the video. I run the powerlogix flash utility with extensions off and the machine powers down. I reset Power management with the wallstreet 3 key + power salute. Then I switch processor, and restart. No video. Put wallstreet II processor back in and video returns. Does anyone out there have experience with this chip upgrade. HELP. TIA -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4 blue chip question
Hello. I wander about in LEM with a wallstreet I and a blue chip powerlogix g4 upgrade. I have only 2 meg video ram. I obtain wallstreet II bottom and a wallstreet II processor. I load os 9.2.1 on the hard drive (spare that has no os on it) and with the wallstreet II processor it boots up and all is well with the video. I run the powerlogix flash utility with extensions off and the machine powers down. I reset Power management with the wallstreet 3 key + power salute. Then I switch processor, and restart. No video. Put wallstreet II processor back in and video returns. Does anyone out there have experience with this chip upgrade. HELP. TIA If it runs but no video, this is a classic problem when trying to run WS1 CPUs (or CPUs with WS1 ROMS) on a WS2 motherboard. What is the flash upgrade for the powerlogix CPU supposed to do ? Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Pismo memory question
Hello, I have recently acquired a 500 mhz Pismo running 10.4.2 and would appreciate members' opinions on the following: 1. Memory- installed are two 128 mb ram cards for a total of 256 mb ram. I have an additional 256 mb LP PC100 32x64 CL2 SDRAM SO DIMM piece of ram, yet when I installed it in the top memory slot of the Pismo the machine froze after starting up with Tiger. The Pismo had worked before with only 256 mb of ram. thought the ram for the G3 ibook 300 mhz should work with the Pismo. I also have tried another 512 mb PC133 piece of ram a dealer said would work, but the Pismo only saw half of it. Is the Pismo very specific about memory? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Pismo firmware update question
Hello, I have recently acquired a 500 mhz Pismo running 10.4.2 and would appreciate members' opinions on the following: 5. I know there is a 4.18 firmware update that can be applied to the Pismo. At the moment it has the rom number listed as version 3.28. However, it is running Tiger. Should I leave well enough alone, or should I update the firmware to 4.18? Thanks. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Pismo ram and Tiger question
Hello, I have just installed a larger memory module into my Pismo running 10.4.2. It had two 128 mb modules = 256 mb ram total. Therefore, I put in one 256 mb from my ibook G3 300 mhz, leaving the other 128 mb in place = total 384 mb. With the 256 mb only, it ran Tiger. However, once I put the other 256 mb in, it starts up fine, lets me log in and then the cursor freezes. I wondered it if was bad ram, but then why does it boot up? Does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
file sharing password question
Hi Listers, I have a PB G3/400 running OS X 10.4.2 (used 99% of the time) and a BW G3/400 running OS X 10.3.9. I would like to move some things off the BW and onto the PB among other things. I wrote my file sharing names and passwords down on an index card which I keep handy but when I try to log in as a Registered User on either machine, it tells me I have the name and/or password incorrect. So I end up having to log in as Guest. Is there some way to reset this information? Would this be the same as resetting the Administrator password using the install CD or is it hidden somewhere else? I can't figure out what happened. Probably something simple but ...? Any help would be greatly appreciated. No one but me uses either machine. TIA for any suggestions. If it helps, this seems to have started when I upgraded the PB to 10.4. I put the same password on both machines that I've had since 10.0. Susie -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: file sharing password question
On Oct 28, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Susie wrote: Hi Listers, I have a PB G3/400 running OS X 10.4.2 (used 99% of the time) and a BW G3/400 running OS X 10.3.9. I would like to move some things off the BW and onto the PB among other things. I wrote my file sharing names and passwords down on an index card which I keep handy but when I try to log in as a Registered User on either machine, it tells me I have the name and/or password incorrect. So I end up having to log in as Guest. Is there some way to reset this information? Would this be the same as resetting the Administrator password using the install CD or is it hidden somewhere else? I can't figure out what happened. Probably something simple but ...? Any help would be greatly appreciated. No one but me uses either machine. TIA for any suggestions. If it helps, this seems to have started when I upgraded the PB to 10.4. I put the same password on both machines that I've had since 10.0. Try using the short names instead of the long names. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: file sharing password question
At 10:32 AM -0700 10/28/05, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 28, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Susie wrote: Hi Listers, I have a PB G3/400 running OS X 10.4.2 (used 99% of the time) and a BW G3/400 running OS X 10.3.9. I would like to move some things off the BW and onto the PB among other things. I wrote my file sharing names and passwords down on an index card which I keep handy but when I try to log in as a Registered User on either machine, it tells me I have the name and/or password incorrect. So I end up having to log in as Guest. Is there some way to reset this information? Would this be the same as resetting the Administrator password using the install CD or is it hidden somewhere else? I can't figure out what happened. Probably something simple but ...? Any help would be greatly appreciated. No one but me uses either machine. TIA for any suggestions. If it helps, this seems to have started when I upgraded the PB to 10.4. I put the same password on both machines that I've had since 10.0. Try using the short names instead of the long names. Tried that with same result. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: file sharing password question
Hi Listers, I have a PB G3/400 running OS X 10.4.2 (used 99% of the time) and a BW G3/400 running OS X 10.3.9. I would like to move some things off the BW and onto the PB among other things. I wrote my file sharing names and passwords down on an index card which I keep handy but when I try to log in as a Registered User on either machine, it tells me I have the name and/or password incorrect. So I end up having to log in as Guest. Is there some way to reset this information? Would this be the same as resetting the Administrator password using the install CD or is it hidden somewhere else? I can't figure out what happened. Probably something simple but ...? Any help would be greatly appreciated. No one but me uses either machine. TIA for any suggestions. If it helps, this seems to have started when I upgraded the PB to 10.4. I put the same password on both machines that I've had since 10.0. Susie The easiest way to do it is to login as administrator, open the Accounts preference pane and then set a new password for the user you're trying to log into. If that user is also the admin, then you will have to reboot both Macs with the system install CD and reset the admin password from the installer. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: file sharing password question
On Oct 28, 2005, at 10:40 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Hi Listers, I have a PB G3/400 running OS X 10.4.2 (used 99% of the time) and a BW G3/400 running OS X 10.3.9. I would like to move some things off the BW and onto the PB among other things. I wrote my file sharing names and passwords down on an index card which I keep handy but when I try to log in as a Registered User on either machine, it tells me I have the name and/or password incorrect. So I end up having to log in as Guest. Is there some way to reset this information? Would this be the same as resetting the Administrator password using the install CD or is it hidden somewhere else? I can't figure out what happened. Probably something simple but ...? Any help would be greatly appreciated. No one but me uses either machine. TIA for any suggestions. If it helps, this seems to have started when I upgraded the PB to 10.4. I put the same password on both machines that I've had since 10.0. Susie The easiest way to do it is to login as administrator, open the Accounts preference pane and then set a new password for the user you're trying to log into. If that user is also the admin, then you will have to reboot both Macs with the system install CD and reset the admin password from the installer. You can also (from the command line in terminal) do: sudo passwd username That works without a reboot. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: sorry for posting dog question on wrong list
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Re: sorry for posting dog question on wrong list
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