subject:"wireless\?"

On Jan 1, 2006, at 6:25 PM, Lists wrote:

This makes a total of 5 completely unrelated Subjects: covered by
the same thread, where people just changed the Subject: line
instead of starting a new thread by clicking NEW.

I'm sorry, what are you whinging about? Every one of the posts in
this thread had something to do with Tom's problem with the CompUSA
wireless card.

Tom, try the IOXpert drivers, you can use them on a trial basis to
see if the card works with them.

I installed the drivers, but that didnt seem to do anything.

Alternatively, poke around at the Windows drivers provided on the
disk that came with it. There's an .INF file that's in the install
directories for Windows that will open in a text editor, and may
contain the manufacturer identification.

--
Bruce Johnson

When opened the net8185.inf file with text edit, it says the provider
is Realtek.
A trip to www.realtek.com.tw indicates they have they have a PCMCIA
wireless card 8185 :

http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?lineid=2002111famid=2004112series=AllSoftware=True

It says its for 10.4, but I only have 10.3.9 on my lombard. I
installed anyway but when I try and run the wireless utility it tells
me there is no wireless LAN card installed. It might be you have to
have 10.4 on the machine.

At no point am I getting any lights on the card so it is possible its
a bum card. The fact that Realtek has a mac driver is encouraging
though.

Mad Dog

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Re: Comp USA wireless card

2006-01-02 Thread Laurent Daudelin

on 02/01/06 14:26, Tom and Lisa Peters at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 1, 2006, at 6:25 PM, Lists wrote:
 
 
 This makes a total of 5 completely unrelated Subjects: covered by
 the same thread, where people just changed the Subject: line
 instead of starting a new thread by clicking NEW.
 
 I'm sorry, what are you whinging about? Every one of the posts in
 this thread had something to do with Tom's problem with the CompUSA
 wireless card.
 
 Tom, try the IOXpert drivers, you can use them on a trial basis to
 see if the card works with them.
 
 I installed the drivers, but that didnt seem to do anything.
 
 Alternatively, poke around at the Windows drivers provided on the
 disk that came with it. There's an .INF file that's in the install
 directories for Windows that will open in a text editor, and may
 contain the manufacturer identification.
 
 --
 Bruce Johnson
 
 When opened the net8185.inf file with text edit, it says the provider
 is Realtek.
 A trip to www.realtek.com.tw indicates they have they have a PCMCIA
 wireless card 8185 :
 
 http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?lineid=2002111famid=200
 4112series=AllSoftware=True
 
 It says its for 10.4, but I only have 10.3.9 on my lombard.  I
 installed anyway but when I try and run the wireless utility it tells
 me there is no wireless LAN card installed.  It might be you have to
 have 10.4 on the machine.
 
 At no point am I getting any lights on the card so it is possible its
 a bum card.  The fact that Realtek has a mac driver is encouraging
 though.

The networking kernel stuff has substantially changed with 10.4 which might
explain why the driver won't work on 10.3.x...

-Laurent.
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Re: Comp USA wireless card

Personally, the only cards I've heard of that work consistently with  
any Mac are the ones with the Broadcom chipset, I believe. To be more  
precise, I know some Buffalo, Belkin, Motorola and the Sonnet Aria all  
work with the Airport 3.1 driver. I'm ordering a Sonnet Aria for my  
Lombard, along with a NewerTech battery, so that might be an option, if  
you have an extra $70 or so lying around. My advice, check the card on  
a Windows laptop, before deciding whether it's a bum card or not.


HTH,
Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 13:26 America/Chicago, Tom and Lisa Peters  
wrote:



On Jan 1, 2006, at 6:25 PM, Lists wrote:



This makes a total of 5 completely unrelated Subjects: covered by  
the same thread, where people just changed the Subject: line instead  
of starting a new thread by clicking NEW.


I'm sorry, what are you whinging about? Every one of the posts in  
this thread had something to do with Tom's problem with the CompUSA  
wireless card.


Tom, try the IOXpert drivers, you can use them on a trial basis to  
see if the card works with them.


I installed the drivers, but that didnt seem to do anything.

Alternatively, poke around at the Windows drivers provided on the  
disk that came with it. There's an .INF file that's in the install  
directories for Windows that will open in a text editor, and may  
contain the manufacturer identification.


--
Bruce Johnson


When opened the net8185.inf file with text edit, it says the provider  
is Realtek.
A trip to www.realtek.com.tw indicates they have they have a PCMCIA  
wireless card 8185 :


http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1- 
3.aspx?lineid=2002111famid=2004112series=AllSoftware=True


It says its for 10.4, but I only have 10.3.9 on my lombard.  I  
installed anyway but when I try and run the wireless utility it tells  
me there is no wireless LAN card installed.  It might be you have to  
have 10.4 on the machine.


At no point am I getting any lights on the card so it is possible its  
a bum card.  The fact that Realtek has a mac driver is encouraging  
though.


Mad Dog



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Re: Comp USA wireless card



  When opened the net8185.inf file with text edit, it says the provider

 is Realtek.
 A trip to www.realtek.com.tw indicates they have they have a PCMCIA
 wireless card 8185 :


http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?lineid=2002111famid=200
 4112series=AllSoftware=True

 It says its for 10.4, but I only have 10.3.9 on my lombard.  I
 installed anyway but when I try and run the wireless utility it tells
 me there is no wireless LAN card installed.  It might be you have to
 have 10.4 on the machine.

 At no point am I getting any lights on the card so it is possible its
 a bum card.  The fact that Realtek has a mac driver is encouraging
 though.


The networking kernel stuff has substantially changed with 10.4 which might
explain why the driver won't work on 10.3.x...

-Laurent.


Unfortunately I dont have an easy way to test the theory.  If I find 
time I can try installing 10.4 on another notebook.


Mad Dog

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Re: Comp USA wireless card

2006-01-02 Thread Anne Judge



On Jan 2, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote:

Personally, the only cards I've heard of that work consistently  
with any Mac are the ones with the Broadcom chipset, I believe.


The Ralink chipset that Belkin switched their card to worked fine for  
me.  I didn't use it a lot (and just sold it when I got rid of the  
WallStreet) but it never failed to make a connection.  You had to use  
the Ralink driver so it wasn't as elegant as a Broadcom-based cards  
that use the airport drivers but it worked.


But that was under 10.2 - don't know if Tiger made a change. Though I  
did recently check  see that Ralink's drivers have been updated for  
Tiger.


Anne


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Re: Comp USA wireless card

What model Belkin did you have, because I have a new Belkin F5D7010 
that I'm trying to get up on my Lombard. It's the revision 4000 model, 
so if anyone knows which chipset it uses, I'd appreciate it.


Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 16:20 America/Chicago, Anne Judge wrote:



On Jan 2, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote:

Personally, the only cards I've heard of that work consistently with 
any Mac are the ones with the Broadcom chipset, I believe.


The Ralink chipset that Belkin switched their card to worked fine for 
me.  I didn't use it a lot (and just sold it when I got rid of the 
WallStreet) but it never failed to make a connection.  You had to use 
the Ralink driver so it wasn't as elegant as a Broadcom-based cards 
that use the airport drivers but it worked.


But that was under 10.2 - don't know if Tiger made a change. Though I 
did recently check  see that Ralink's drivers have been updated for 
Tiger.


Anne


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Re: Comp USA wireless card

What model Belkin did you have, because I have a new Belkin F5D7010 
that I'm trying to get up on my Lombard. It's the revision 4000 
model, so if anyone knows which chipset it uses, I'd appreciate it.


Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 16:20 America/Chicago, Anne Judge wrote:


Caleb, if you are running X, you should see a small card icon on the 
menubar.  The menu should list the chipset.  At least, it did for my 
belkin Fd7010 (version 3001).


Mad Dog

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Re: Comp USA wireless card

It's saying Unknown Vendor and Network Controller on the Lombard. 
I'm running 10.2.8, if that helps out any.


Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 18:53 America/Chicago, Tom and Lisa Peters 
wrote:


What model Belkin did you have, because I have a new Belkin F5D7010 
that I'm trying to get up on my Lombard. It's the revision 4000 
model, so if anyone knows which chipset it uses, I'd appreciate it.


Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 16:20 America/Chicago, Anne Judge wrote:


Caleb, if you are running X, you should see a small card icon on the 
menubar.  The menu should list the chipset.  At least, it did for my 
belkin Fd7010 (version 3001).


Mad Dog



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Re: Comp USA wireless card

2006-01-02 Thread Anne Judge



On Jan 2, 2006, at 8:00 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote:

It's saying Unknown Vendor and Network Controller on the  
Lombard. I'm running 10.2.8, if that helps out any.


Under 10.2.x on my Wallstreet, I'm pretty sure it said Ralink in  
that menu item.  I haven't heard if they switched to a 3rd supplier  
(they started out Broadcom, then went to the Ralink) so I hope I'm  
wrong!


Anne


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Re: Comp USA wireless card

It's saying Unknown Vendor and Network Controller on the 
Lombard. I'm running 10.2.8, if that helps out any.


Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 18:53 America/Chicago, Tom and Lisa Peters wrote:

What model Belkin did you have, because I have a new Belkin 
F5D7010 that I'm trying to get up on my Lombard. It's the revision 
4000 model, so if anyone knows which chipset it uses, I'd 
appreciate it.


Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 16:20 America/Chicago, Anne Judge wrote:


Caleb, if you are running X, you should see a small card icon on 
the menubar.  The menu should list the chipset.  At least, it did 
for my belkin Fd7010 (version 3001).


Mad Dog


Hmmm...It could be 10.2.8 doesnt ID chipsets as well, but my Belkin 
7010 gave me Ralink as the chipset.


Mad Dog

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Re: Comp USA wireless card

I've tried the Ralink driver, and it doesn't work. Any other 
suggestions, because I really got a good deal on the card and I really 
want to get it working. I know the .3000 had a Ralink chipset, but the 
4000 is giving me a serious headache.


Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 21:05 America/Chicago, Tom and Lisa Peters 
wrote:


It's saying Unknown Vendor and Network Controller on the Lombard. 
I'm running 10.2.8, if that helps out any.


Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 18:53 America/Chicago, Tom and Lisa Peters 
wrote:


What model Belkin did you have, because I have a new Belkin F5D7010 
that I'm trying to get up on my Lombard. It's the revision 4000 
model, so if anyone knows which chipset it uses, I'd appreciate it.


Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 16:20 America/Chicago, Anne Judge wrote:


Caleb, if you are running X, you should see a small card icon on the 
menubar.  The menu should list the chipset.  At least, it did for my 
belkin Fd7010 (version 3001).


Mad Dog


Hmmm...It could be 10.2.8 doesnt ID chipsets as well, but my Belkin 
7010 gave me Ralink as the chipset.


Mad Dog



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Lombard Wireless Woes


Dear Listers,

Does anyone know of a hacked driver to get a revision 4 Belkin F5D7010 
wireless card to work under OS X. The revision 1, 2, 3 and 5 all work, 
with 1, 2 and 5 using the Airport drivers, and 3 works with the Ralink 
drivers. However, because of my stupidity, I ended up with a 4, because 
it was cheap and all that Wal-Mart had this afternoon. I also got a 
Linksys router, but my PC put it in its place. As I'm haphazardly 
moving my stuff onto a new connection, I've been running into issue 
after issue, so I could really use the help.


It's been a hassle trying to setup everything to transfer over from my 
dialup that I've used for years over to a new cable connection, and I 
want everything ready before the installers get here on Thursday.


Thanks in advance,
Caleb

P.S. I even tried the Orangeware driver, but it refused to unstuff, for 
some reason.


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Re: Lombard Wireless Woes

Sorry about the double post, but I've done some tracing via the FCC 
site, but it seems that I'm out of luck. I traced the manufacturer of 
the revision 4 card to Askey Computers out of Taiwan, but when I 
checked their site, it
A: Wouldn't render properly in Camino or Safari. (Big warning to Mac 
users)

B: Had no Mac drivers.
C: None of the drivers have been updated in almost 2 years.

I'm giving up and calling Belkin to see if they'll replace my card. 
Hopefully, they'll help out a poor Mac user.


Unfortunately, my gumshoe work made it unnecessary for your help.

Caleb

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On Tuesday, Jan 3, 2006, at 00:10 America/Chicago, Caleb Cupples wrote:


Dear Listers,

Does anyone know of a hacked driver to get a revision 4 Belkin F5D7010 
wireless card to work under OS X. The revision 1, 2, 3 and 5 all work, 
with 1, 2 and 5 using the Airport drivers, and 3 works with the Ralink 
drivers. However, because of my stupidity, I ended up with a 4, 
because it was cheap and all that Wal-Mart had this afternoon. I also 
got a Linksys router, but my PC put it in its place. As I'm 
haphazardly moving my stuff onto a new connection, I've been running 
into issue after issue, so I could really use the help.


It's been a hassle trying to setup everything to transfer over from my 
dialup that I've used for years over to a new cable connection, and I 
want everything ready before the installers get here on Thursday.


Thanks in advance,
Caleb

P.S. I even tried the Orangeware driver, but it refused to unstuff, 
for some reason.


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Comp USA wireless card

2006-01-01 Thread Tom and Lisa Peters




CompUSA is blowing out their brand of wireless PCMCIA cards for $4 
after rebates.  I took a chance and bought one, but I cant find any 
record of vendor or chipset, not even reported by OS X.  The only 
clue I have on this card is that the vendor ID under the system 
profiler is Ox104c.  Is there a list of vendor IDs somewhere ?


Mad Dog

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Re: Comp USA wireless card

2006-01-01 Thread Michael A. Howard


Tom and Lisa Peters wrote:




CompUSA is blowing out their brand of wireless PCMCIA cards for $4 
after rebates.  I took a chance and bought one, but I cant find any 
record of vendor or chipset, not even reported by OS X.  The only clue 
I have on this card is that the vendor ID under the system profiler is 
Ox104c.  Is there a list of vendor IDs somewhere ?


Mad Dog

That vendor id is for a Texas Instruments PCMCIA chipset, so I'm not 
sure you're seeing the card itself in the profiler.


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Re: Comp USA wireless card

2006-01-01 Thread illovox

Do tell...does it work as an airport card?


 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 14:54:55 -0500
 From: Tom and Lisa Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Comp USA wireless card
 
 
 
 CompUSA is blowing out their brand of wireless PCMCIA cards for $4
 after rebates.  I took a chance and bought one, but I cant find any
 record of vendor or chipset, not even reported by OS X.  The only
 clue I have on this card is that the vendor ID under the system
 profiler is Ox104c.  Is there a list of vendor IDs somewhere ?
 
 Mad Dog


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Re: Comp USA wireless card

2006-01-01 Thread Tom and Lisa Peters


Do tell...does it work as an airport card?


It is not recognized as an airport card, nor do the Ralink drivers I 
already have loaded recognize it.


Mad Dog

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Re: Comp USA wireless card

2006-01-01 Thread Tom and Lisa Peters


Tom and Lisa Peters wrote:




CompUSA is blowing out their brand of wireless PCMCIA cards for $4 
after rebates.  I took a chance and bought one, but I cant find any 
record of vendor or chipset, not even reported by OS X.  The only 
clue I have on this card is that the vendor ID under the system 
profiler is Ox104c.  Is there a list of vendor IDs somewhere ?


Mad Dog

That vendor id is for a Texas Instruments PCMCIA chipset, so I'm not 
sure you're seeing the card itself in the profiler.


How can I get the manufacturer ID/chipset ?

Mad Dog

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Re: Comp USA wireless card

2006-01-01 Thread Lists



This makes a total of 5 completely unrelated Subjects: covered by the  
same thread, where people just changed the Subject: line instead of  
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Antenna Adapter for Enterasys wireless card

2005-12-22 Thread David Jones

I have an Enterasys wireless card that I am using with my Lombard 400. 
The card has an external antenna port on it. I am wondering where I can 
get an adapter to plug an external antenna into this card. Any advice 
would be appreciated. Thanks,

Dave Jones
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Re: Anybody tried one of these: Motorola 802.11g PCMCIA WiFi wireless card WN825G

2005-12-21 Thread B.L.



G-Books wrote on 12/21/05, 14:30:

  the motorola card i had in the pcmcia slot of my pismo had a
  broadcom chip, and worked flawless. it was seen buy the system as an
  airport extreme card and was the 54mbps card .
 vicki.
***
Hi Vicki thanks for the information, I was wondering about this PCMCIA 
card because the PCI card I have in my B  W and my Sawtooth both work 
flawlessly plus they show up as an Airport Extreme card. I just wanted 
to match this performance in my Lombard. Maybe I'll just take a Leap of 
Faith here and try it out. They're going for about $19.00 on Ebay so 
they 're in my price range.
Once again thank you.
Brad

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Anybody tried one of these: Motorola 802.11g PCMCIA WiFi wireless card WN825G

2005-12-20 Thread B.L.


Good evening fellow G-Bookies. I have a question for the list regarding 
pcmcia cards for the Lombard and any other powerbooks. I have in my G4 
Sawtooth a Motorola WPCI810G 802.11g Wireless PCI Network Adapter that 
shows up in Apple Profiler as an Airport Extreme card and works 
flawlessly with my Graphite Base Station because it has a Broadcom 
chipset in it. What I am wondering is whether or not any one knows if 
this Motorola 802.11g PCMCIA WiFi wireless card WN825G also has the 
Broadcom chipset or if someone can point me in the direction to find out 
what chipset it has. Why; because, since the other Motorola PCI card 
works so well I'd like to use one of these in my Lombard if possible. 
Thank you one and all for your assistance in this matter.
Happy Holidays and Season's Greetings
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Re: Anybody tried one of these: Motorola 802.11g PCMCIA WiFi wireless card WN825G

2005-12-20 Thread VICTORIA.DUGGAN



On Dec 20, 2005, at 10:59 PM, B.L. wrote:



Good evening fellow G-Bookies. I have a question for the list  
regarding

pcmcia cards for the Lombard and any other powerbooks. I have in my G4
Sawtooth a Motorola WPCI810G 802.11g Wireless PCI Network Adapter that
shows up in Apple Profiler as an Airport Extreme card and works
flawlessly with my Graphite Base Station because it has a Broadcom
chipset in it. What I am wondering is whether or not any one knows if
this Motorola 802.11g PCMCIA WiFi wireless card WN825G also has the
Broadcom chipset or if someone can point me in the direction to  
find out

what chipset it has. Why; because, since the other Motorola PCI card
works so well I'd like to use one of these in my Lombard if possible.
Thank you one and all for your assistance in this matter.
Happy Holidays and Season's Greetings
Brad
--


Hi brad
 the motorola card i had in the pcmcia slot of my pismo had a  
broadcom chip, and worked flawless. it was seen buy the system as an  
airport extreme card and was the 54mbps card .


vicki. 


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Wireless Internet with WS II under OS 9.2.2?

2005-12-02 Thread Stanton Mitrany

Is there a guide to how to do this? Drivers /or patches necessary?

I already have some devices which may make this possible for me to do. The
first is a:

PCMCIA BUSlink USB 2.0 Cardbus for Notebook, Model UII-CB4, plus a D-Link
DWL-122 Wireless USB Adapter Version A1. The other is a

PCMCIA Belkin Wireless Notebook Network Card, Model FSD6020, 802.11b Network
Interface Card, CardBus Wireless (I know that's a lot of labeling, but
that's what the card top label says)

Also, if I decide to try, and successfully upgrade this WS II to OS X
10.3.9, will I be able to go online wirelessly with either of the setups
I've detailed above?


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Re: Wireless Internet with WS II under OS 9.2.2?

2005-12-02 Thread Stanton Mitrany

I'm hoping you can help with this. Also, isn't there a member of this list
who has compiled a substantial array of material about going online
wirelessly, and which is available somewhere for download?

Thanks,
stanton

 From: Stanton Mitrany [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Wireless Internet with WS II under OS 9.2.2?

 Is there a guide to how to do this? Drivers /or patches necessary?

 I already have some devices which may make this possible for me to do. The
 first is a:

 PCMCIA BUSlink USB 2.0 Cardbus for Notebook, Model UII-CB4, plus a D-Link
 DWL-122 Wireless USB Adapter Version A1. The other is a

 PCMCIA Belkin Wireless Notebook Network Card, Model FSD6020, 802.11b Network
 Interface Card, CardBus Wireless (I know that's a lot of labeling, but
 that's what the card top label says)

 Also, if I decide to try, and successfully upgrade this WS II to OS X
 10.3.9, will I be able to go online wirelessly with either of the setups
 I've detailed above?

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Re: Wireless Internet with WS II under OS 9.2.2?

2005-12-02 Thread Ken

My Reply follows quote. On 02/12/2005 09:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
said:  

I'm hoping you can help with this. Also, isn't there a member of this list
who has compiled a substantial array of material about going online
wirelessly, and which is available somewhere for download?

Thanks,
stanton

Don't recall the URL just now, but you can locate it by
Googling for Macwireless or some such.

Ken

PS: Just found it at

http://home.earthlink.net/~macwireless/

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Re: Wireless Internet with WS II under OS 9.2.2?

2005-12-02 Thread GalBros


In a message dated 12/2/05 12:03:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I'm hoping you can help with this. Also, isn't there a member of this list
who has compiled a substantial array of material about going online
wirelessly, and which is available somewhere for download?

Well, a Belkin 802.11b wireless card, f5d6020 will work with Mac OS9 and 
10.2-10.4 using (either?) an IOxperts or MacSense driver. If the IOxperts 
driver 
is the same as what comes with Orinoco cards for Macs (correct me, list?) I 
think I have the OS9 version available.

However, isn't the 6020 a non-cardbus card? Sometimes some entities use 
cardbus and PCMCIA interchangeably.

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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-14 Thread Howard Katz

On 11/13/05, Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A given DCHP server might cover quite a large area, it depends on how
 everything is setup.  And it could also be multiple DHCP servers that
 were messed up.

Very true.  But I was involved with the setup (on a minimal basis)
with the new facility - less than a year old - so I know how the
servers at least were set up. It MAY be that the DHCP server is off
the main system, which is off-site, but the IT person made it sound
like the upgrade was made to servers--plural.

 Unfortunately that is all too common an IT view point.  Personally I
 wouldn't have said oh yes you will but rather bye bye.

Several of us wanted to suggest this, but there was in-house politics
involved.  :)


Later.Howard

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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-13 Thread Howard Katz

Nope--it was multiple locations throughout the campus.  I took the PB
and tried it out on the chance it was just the node I was trying to
hook into.  And the student who was having trouble was several floors
and server rooms away from where I originally was.

They've pretty much admitted it was their fault, but as of yesterday
at least, it was fixed.  :)

(These are the same IT people who when they came in, to a Univ. that
caters to teacher education, tried to tell us we didn't need Macs and
they weren't planning on supporting them.  They were told oh yes you
will. :) )

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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-13 Thread Clark Martin


At 10:31 AM -0600 11/13/05, Howard Katz wrote:

Nope--it was multiple locations throughout the campus.  I took the PB
and tried it out on the chance it was just the node I was trying to
hook into.  And the student who was having trouble was several floors
and server rooms away from where I originally was.


A given DCHP server might cover quite a large area, it depends on how 
everything is setup.  And it could also be multiple DHCP servers that 
were messed up.




They've pretty much admitted it was their fault, but as of yesterday
at least, it was fixed.  :)

(These are the same IT people who when they came in, to a Univ. that
caters to teacher education, tried to tell us we didn't need Macs and
they weren't planning on supporting them.  They were told oh yes you
will. :) )


Unfortunately that is all too common an IT view point.  Personally I 
wouldn't have said oh yes you will but rather bye bye.

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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-12 Thread Howard Katz

Whatever the problem was, IT got it fixed.  I sitting here at the
campus and composing this via the wireless connection.  I'm going to
see if I can get the info about which patch from one of the techs. 
(Our Help dept. isn't overseas, but we're located in the Chicago area
(4 campuses here in Chicago) and the helpdesk is down in FL.  :) )

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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-12 Thread Clark Martin


At 9:11 AM -0600 11/12/05, Howard Katz wrote:

Whatever the problem was, IT got it fixed.  I sitting here at the
campus and composing this via the wireless connection.  I'm going to
see if I can get the info about which patch from one of the techs.
(Our Help dept. isn't overseas, but we're located in the Chicago area
(4 campuses here in Chicago) and the helpdesk is down in FL.  :) )


If it isn't, try using the laptop in one of the locations you had 
problems with before.  It's possible (probable) several DHCP servers 
serve the whole campus with each one serving addresses for several 
Access Points.  It may be you are only having trouble with one or 
some DHCP servers but not all.

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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-11 Thread P. Turtle-Bear Guillermo


On Nov 10, 2005, at 8:21 AM, Clark Martin wrote:


At 8:57 AM -0500 11/10/05, Brian McEwen wrote:

Howard Katz wrote


So the question is why won't Tiger connect?  Not really my problem
now--it's the IT dept.  And there's enough Tiger users wandering
around that they'll need to fix this fast.

Oh, and for information's sake--I'm sitting at a Panera's cafe using
their free wifi.  Other than having a slight problem negotiating 
their

sign-in system this morning (more their system than mine!), it's
obviously working ok.

Why is it we tend to, when it comes to computers, to think it's our
system that's the problem, and not something on the other end, but
when it comes to things political or social issues, it's always the
other guy's fault?  :)



I'll still say that, despite that it's a MS server software, the fact 
that every other wireless device I own can work fine, and the 10.4 
one cannot, tells me that Apple has made some assumptions/broken some 
rules/ is doing *something* differently than everything else out 
there. Think back to good ol' dialup days, where everything else with 
a PPP stack could obtain the local DNS server info automagically, 
while us Mac types had to type it in by hand always.   That the MS 
server update might bring this wireless feature to the fore, 
doesn't necessarily mean that it is the fault of MS or your local IT 
guys.


Fun/useful to hear what exact server update they are now running 
(hint hint :)


In the past at least there were problems with Macs running with a MS 
DHCP server specifically because Apple WAS following the rules and MS 
was breaking them and expecting everyone else to because, well, just 
because.

--
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I noticed that an Airport Extreme Driver update came up on my Software 
Update list this morning (Friday). I wonder if that will help? (I'm 
running Panther.)


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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-10 Thread Brian McEwen



On Nov 10, 2005, at 1:48 AM, John Siple wrote:



--
Noise level and occasionally the manufacturer of the router or  
access point. It keeps a log of signal strength and last connection  
date, and there's a field for notes, though I don't find that very  
useful. Mostly what I use is channel and strength, and if you're  
getting that from


Also you will be able to see many networks that don't show up in the  
regular Airport connection util.  For example, the 2 networks named  
Public on 2 different channels- the Airport util would not show  
them both.  Plus it would not show me the hidden WEP protected  
connection that hospital had for staff use- but with the stumbler  
util, I could see it was present.


Worth taking a look, just to see who is in the neighborhood.

B


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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-10 Thread Howard Katz

Amazing what can happen when your IT finally gives you additional info.

Spent close to an hour at various times with the IT helpdesk last
nite.  One nice gentleman (Better that euphemism than something else
I could say--and besides, someone from there could be on this list. 
:) ) looking over the shoulder of the person I was talking to actually
said Oh, we don't support 10.4 Mac OS--only the earlier versions.  I
let them know that it's been working flawlessly since July when I got
this puppy.

Then the shoe drops.  The tech mentions that, and I'm going to use
caps here, so be prepared for a little shouting--INSTALLED A NEW
MICROSOFT SERVER UPDATE PACKAGE TO ALL THE CAMPUS SERVERS YESTERDAY!!

Gee, you think, especially since another Mac user there, running
Tiger, couldn't connect, it could have something to do with MS's
(lousy) software?  He admitted that it could be the case, and put in a
work ticket--to one of my co-workers.  (I've advised him of the
situation in a separate email).  Just for grins, I also booted up one
of the school's eMacs running Panther (or earlier--I forget the
version #, but I know it's not Tiger)--disconnected the ethernet
cable, set it to run via the airport card--no problem, it worked.

So the question is why won't Tiger connect?  Not really my problem
now--it's the IT dept.  And there's enough Tiger users wandering
around that they'll need to fix this fast.

Oh, and for information's sake--I'm sitting at a Panera's cafe using
their free wifi.  Other than having a slight problem negotiating their
sign-in system this morning (more their system than mine!), it's
obviously working ok.

Why is it we tend to, when it comes to computers, to think it's our
system that's the problem, and not something on the other end, but
when it comes to things political or social issues, it's always the
other guy's fault?  :)

Thanks again for all the help, input and insight, folks!!


Later...Howard   (a relieved PB user!)

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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-10 Thread Brian McEwen


Howard Katz wrote


So the question is why won't Tiger connect?  Not really my problem
now--it's the IT dept.  And there's enough Tiger users wandering
around that they'll need to fix this fast.

Oh, and for information's sake--I'm sitting at a Panera's cafe using
their free wifi.  Other than having a slight problem negotiating their
sign-in system this morning (more their system than mine!), it's
obviously working ok.

Why is it we tend to, when it comes to computers, to think it's our
system that's the problem, and not something on the other end, but
when it comes to things political or social issues, it's always the
other guy's fault?  :)



I'll still say that, despite that it's a MS server software, the fact that every other 
wireless device I own can work fine, and the 10.4 one cannot, tells me that Apple has 
made some assumptions/broken some rules/ is doing *something* differently than everything 
else out there. Think back to good ol' dialup days, where everything else with a PPP 
stack could obtain the local DNS server info automagically, while us Mac types had to 
type it in by hand always.   That the MS server update might bring this wireless 
feature to the fore, doesn't necessarily mean that it is the fault of MS or 
your local IT guys.


Fun/useful to hear what exact server update they are now running (hint 
hint :)


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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-10 Thread Howard Katz

If I can get the the info about which update they used, I'll pass it on.

But the fact that tiger, even the latest update, was problem-free
until yesterday makes me tend to think that Apple actually had the
software compliant, and MS f***ked up something that excluded Mac and
was only MS-compliant for their own OS.  Like I said, I've had no
problem for almost 4 months, and there's no problem right now at
panera's--tho I know they're only using a standard base-station on a
DSL line vs a whole-campus server system. (College also went to VoIP
for phone service--personally I don't think it's as good sound quality
as the telco system was.)


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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-10 Thread Laurent Daudelin

on 10/11/05 09:04, Howard Katz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I can get the the info about which update they used, I'll pass it on.
 
 But the fact that tiger, even the latest update, was problem-free
 until yesterday makes me tend to think that Apple actually had the
 software compliant, and MS f***ked up something that excluded Mac and
 was only MS-compliant for their own OS.  Like I said, I've had no
 problem for almost 4 months, and there's no problem right now at
 panera's--tho I know they're only using a standard base-station on a
 DSL line vs a whole-campus server system. (College also went to VoIP
 for phone service--personally I don't think it's as good sound quality
 as the telco system was.)

Howard,

So, you're saying that until yesterday, even with 10.4.3 installed, you had
no problem to connect?

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to get the computer's attention, it printed out some status information,
including how many people were already using the computer; it might print
14 users, for example. Someone thought it would be a great joke to patch
the system to print 14 losers instead. There ensued a great controversy,
as some of the users didn't particularly want to be called losers to their
faces every time they used the computer. For a while several hackers
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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-10 Thread Clark Martin


At 8:57 AM -0500 11/10/05, Brian McEwen wrote:

Howard Katz wrote


So the question is why won't Tiger connect?  Not really my problem
now--it's the IT dept.  And there's enough Tiger users wandering
around that they'll need to fix this fast.

Oh, and for information's sake--I'm sitting at a Panera's cafe using
their free wifi.  Other than having a slight problem negotiating their
sign-in system this morning (more their system than mine!), it's
obviously working ok.

Why is it we tend to, when it comes to computers, to think it's our
system that's the problem, and not something on the other end, but
when it comes to things political or social issues, it's always the
other guy's fault?  :)



I'll still say that, despite that it's a MS server software, the 
fact that every other wireless device I own can work fine, and the 
10.4 one cannot, tells me that Apple has made some 
assumptions/broken some rules/ is doing *something* differently than 
everything else out there. Think back to good ol' dialup days, where 
everything else with a PPP stack could obtain the local DNS server 
info automagically, while us Mac types had to type it in by hand 
always.   That the MS server update might bring this wireless 
feature to the fore, doesn't necessarily mean that it is the fault 
of MS or your local IT guys.


Fun/useful to hear what exact server update they are now running (hint hint :)


In the past at least there were problems with Macs running with a MS 
DHCP server specifically because Apple WAS following the rules and MS 
was breaking them and expecting everyone else to because, well, just 
because.

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Wireless network problem - help!

One of my part-time jobs is working at a local university--I'm there now.

I've used the wireless capabilities of my G4 15 AL unit for months
here with no problems.  Univ. network is open, unprotected. I was
sitting at my desk today using the wirelss connection, via automatic
airport setting when all of a sudden it stopped working.  I've tried
two different browsers (icab, firefox), a telnet client, as well as
launching a few internet-connected widget to see if anything would
take care of the problem.  Even removed the battery for 10 min on the
off-chance that would work.  It didn't, and neither have multiple
restarts and shutdowns.

Airport's icon in the menu bar shows a strong signal. 
AirTrafficControl widget shows network(s), and strength.  However,
nothing I try will get anything to connect thru the wireless.  (A
co-worker's peecee is working fine wireless.)  It does however, work
fine when I plug directly into an ethernet jack, like right now.

It was working earlier today when I stopped for coffee at an place
that offers free wifi, and like I said, it was working here for maybe
an hour and then just stopped.

I ran the netowrk status diagnostics, and it fails on ISP and server. 
It does see the network, and I've got a good strong, all-bars signal
showing.

IT isn't too mac savvy here, so I'm basically on my own.

Any suggestions or help?


Later..Howard

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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-09 Thread Clark Martin


At 6:03 PM -0600 11/9/05, Howard Katz wrote:

One of my part-time jobs is working at a local university--I'm there now.

I've used the wireless capabilities of my G4 15 AL unit for months
here with no problems.  Univ. network is open, unprotected. I was
sitting at my desk today using the wirelss connection, via automatic
airport setting when all of a sudden it stopped working.  I've tried
two different browsers (icab, firefox), a telnet client, as well as
launching a few internet-connected widget to see if anything would
take care of the problem.  Even removed the battery for 10 min on the
off-chance that would work.  It didn't, and neither have multiple
restarts and shutdowns.

Airport's icon in the menu bar shows a strong signal.
AirTrafficControl widget shows network(s), and strength.  However,
nothing I try will get anything to connect thru the wireless.  (A
co-worker's peecee is working fine wireless.)  It does however, work
fine when I plug directly into an ethernet jack, like right now.

It was working earlier today when I stopped for coffee at an place
that offers free wifi, and like I said, it was working here for maybe
an hour and then just stopped.

I ran the netowrk status diagnostics, and it fails on ISP and server.
It does see the network, and I've got a good strong, all-bars signal
showing.

IT isn't too mac savvy here, so I'm basically on my own.

Any suggestions or help?


Best guess is you aren't getting a DHCP lease.  Open the Network 
Preference Pane and see what IP address your Airport interface is 
getting.  If it is 169.254.x.x that is what is known as Self 
Assigned (the Network Preference Pane will refer to it as such).  It 
means your Mac couldn't get a DHCP address from a server and made up 
it's own address which is usually used with ad hoc networks.


It should ultimately re-find a DHCP address.  You can force it by 
either hitting the Renew DHCP Lease button in the TCP/IP section or 
creating a new location with a static IP address (it doesn't matter 
what), switch to it (hitting Apply Now) then switch back (again 
hitting Apply Now).  The former is simpler but the latter is more 
reliable.

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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-09 Thread John Siple


I agree with Clark. It's probably a DHCP problem.

Go to the NETWORK system prefs panel
Show Airport
Click TCP/IP and make sure the setting is Using DHCP not Using  
DHCP with manual address.


You might also take a look at MacStumbler if you do any war driving  
at all. It gives you a good idea what's in the air.


John
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On Nov 9, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Howard Katz wrote:

One of my part-time jobs is working at a local university--I'm there  
now.


I've used the wireless capabilities of my G4 15 AL unit for months
here with no problems.  Univ. network is open, unprotected. I was
sitting at my desk today using the wirelss connection, via automatic
airport setting when all of a sudden it stopped working.  I've tried
two different browsers (icab, firefox), a telnet client, as well as
launching a few internet-connected widget to see if anything would
take care of the problem.  Even removed the battery for 10 min on the
off-chance that would work.  It didn't, and neither have multiple
restarts and shutdowns.

Airport's icon in the menu bar shows a strong signal.
AirTrafficControl widget shows network(s), and strength.  However,
nothing I try will get anything to connect thru the wireless.  (A
co-worker's peecee is working fine wireless.)  It does however, work
fine when I plug directly into an ethernet jack, like right now.

It was working earlier today when I stopped for coffee at an place
that offers free wifi, and like I said, it was working here for maybe
an hour and then just stopped.

I ran the netowrk status diagnostics, and it fails on ISP and server.
It does see the network, and I've got a good strong, all-bars signal
showing.

IT isn't too mac savvy here, so I'm basically on my own.

Any suggestions or help?


Later..Howard






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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

Yup--a DHCP problem--I'm on now wireless, but I had to choose an
arbitrary IP number based on what I was getting from the plug-in
ethernet info.  It won't get one for me when I renew or try automatic
DHCP when I'm airport connected.  It just won't do it automatically.

Is there a preference I should trash, maybe?  I CAN connect--at least
here, but it's going to be problematic at some of the free wifi
sites--they don't usually have ethernet ports to plug into.  :)

Later.Howard

On 11/9/05, John Siple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I agree with Clark. It's probably a DHCP problem.

 Go to the NETWORK system prefs panel
 Show Airport
 Click TCP/IP and make sure the setting is Using DHCP not Using
 DHCP with manual address.

 You might also take a look at MacStumbler if you do any war driving
 at all. It gives you a good idea what's in the air.

 John
 ---
 On Nov 9, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Howard Katz wrote:

 One of my part-time jobs is working at a local university--I'm there
 now.

 I've used the wireless capabilities of my G4 15 AL unit for months
 here with no problems.  Univ. network is open, unprotected. I was
 sitting at my desk today using the wirelss connection, via automatic
 airport setting when all of a sudden it stopped working.  I've tried
 two different browsers (icab, firefox), a telnet client, as well as
 launching a few internet-connected widget to see if anything would
 take care of the problem.  Even removed the battery for 10 min on the
 off-chance that would work.  It didn't, and neither have multiple
 restarts and shutdowns.

 Airport's icon in the menu bar shows a strong signal.
 AirTrafficControl widget shows network(s), and strength.  However,
 nothing I try will get anything to connect thru the wireless.  (A
 co-worker's peecee is working fine wireless.)  It does however, work
 fine when I plug directly into an ethernet jack, like right now.

 It was working earlier today when I stopped for coffee at an place
 that offers free wifi, and like I said, it was working here for maybe
 an hour and then just stopped.

 I ran the netowrk status diagnostics, and it fails on ISP and server.
 It does see the network, and I've got a good strong, all-bars signal
 showing.

 IT isn't too mac savvy here, so I'm basically on my own.

 Any suggestions or help?


 Later..Howard






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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

Oh--and question--what would macstumbler give me that I'm not seeing
with airtraffic control?  I was able to see the network, the channel,
strength, and choose which channel to connect to.

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No go--now even putting in DHCP manually doesn't seem to work--and the
diagnostics keep failing on internet and server.

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Re: Wireless network problem - help!



On Nov 9, 2005, at 7:17 PM, Clark Martin wrote:



IT isn't too mac savvy here, so I'm basically on my own.

Any suggestions or help?



Best guess is you aren't getting a DHCP lease.  Open the Network  
Preference Pane and see what IP address your Airport interface is  
getting.  If it is 169.254.x.x that is what is known as Self  
Assigned (the Network Preference Pane will refer to it as such).   
It means your Mac couldn't get a DHCP address from a server and  
made up it's own address which is usually used with ad hoc networks.




the OSX wireless/ open WAP thing is partly broken as far as I can  
tell.  Both at my workplace and at the hospital where I was spending  
many hours a few months back, I could get online fine with any laptop  
except the OSX powerbook.


I could get an IP, signal fine, see the SSID of the open network,  
etc. but trying to ping anywhere let alone DNS lookups gav eno route  
to host.


Apple support ('book was new) was no help, local admins said yup for  
whatever reason OS X can't get online, we have no ideas, but would  
like it to work.


I thought perhaps I had an idea of the problem- the hospital had 2  
open networks named PUBLIC but on 2 channels, I thought perhaps  
things were confused on the Mac due to that (though my Clie UX-50,  
Win98, WinXP, and Newton Messagepad were fine (I had lots of time and  
trips to work on this :)  but the work one, DORA is open and the  
only one around.


I gave up.  Macs just don't work as well as windows machines  
sometimes.  I know my karma will take a pummelling but that's the data.


B


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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

Brian--that sparked something.  I called our HelpDesk people back.  I
actually got someone who said We don't support Mac OSX except for
10.3 and earlier.  His coworker thought this was an odd statement, but
let it go.  Seems that they applied a microsoft update sometime today
to the server software--he thinks it broke something Mac related--to
test it, I found a student with an iBook, who also was running it
turns out--Tiger.  She couldn't connect either.  I've a feeling the
problem isn't mine, but the IT folk who aren't big mac fans.  I'll
test it out tomorrow at the wifi cafe and give a report back.

Thanks!


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On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:55 PM, Howard Katz wrote:


turns out--Tiger.  She couldn't connect either.  I've a feeling the
problem isn't mine, but the IT folk who aren't big mac fans.  I'll
test it out tomorrow at the wifi cafe and give a report back.



FWIW, I can connect fine at work on the WEP protected network- just  
the open one won't work.


Laptop is fine at Panera stores, other places.

The hospital IT guys worked hard with me to troubleshot but I finally  
gave up.  It's in Apple's court.  In June they said they would have  
an update that addressed some network stuff- but 10.4.1 didn't touch it.


If you can find out what they are doing for server stuff at your  
workplace (routers versions etc) I've ben meaning to trap our guy  
near the coffee pot and find out.  The weird thing is our AP is just  
a bog standard off the shelf Linksys or some such.  Big Cisco thing  
behind it, but I'm not sure why the Cisco hardware would matter at  
that point.


It's really Apple's issue, I think- if everything else is fine, and  
9.1 machines are fine, and Win98 machines are fine- Apple's the cause  
in my book.  Heck my Newton Messagepad is even fine, and its TCP/IP  
stack is a poster child for broken...


Luck;

B


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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

FWIW, it was a Panera's that I was at earlier too.  I'll try it out
there tomorrow, as well as the public library's free wifi - hopefully
all will be well.  And should I hear something about what the IT folk
do or change, I'll pass it on.

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On Nov 9, 2005, at 10:18 PM, Brian McEwen wrote:

The hospital IT guys worked hard with me to troubleshot but I  
finally gave up.  It's in Apple's court.  In June they said they  
would have an update that addressed some network stuff- but 10.4.1  
didn't touch it.



 

sorry, meant 10.4.2.

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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-09 Thread Laurent Daudelin

on 09/11/05 22:27, Brian McEwen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 9, 2005, at 10:18 PM, Brian McEwen wrote:
 
 The hospital IT guys worked hard with me to troubleshot but I
 finally gave up.  It's in Apple's court.  In June they said they
 would have an update that addressed some network stuff- but 10.4.1
 didn't touch it.
 
  
   
 sorry, meant 10.4.2.

What about 10.4.3? There were a lot of fixes in that (huge) update...

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On 11/9/05, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 What about 10.4.3? There were a lot of fixes in that (huge) update...



10.4.3 is what I'm currently using.  It sounds like IT doesn't want to
deal with anything newer than 10.3.  However this Univ deals primarily
with teacher education.  you'd better believe that there's a fair
number of PB's  being using around here!  IT knows it has to support
Tiger.  (I hate to think what'll happen when the next
version--Leopard?--appears)

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On Nov 9, 2005, at 10:43 PM, Howard Katz wrote:


Tiger.  (I hate to think what'll happen when the next
version--Leopard?--appears)



I hate all these nicknames.  especiallly the laptop ones.  Pismo indeed.

I hadn't been down to the hospital group since early July so hadn't  
tested that setup with 10.4.3.  I should put it on and try the work  
one, though- it just automatically goes through the WEP protected one  
now so I hadn't bothered doing more unpaid work testing for Apple.


Sounds like Howard has the 10.4.3 installed with the same issue  
persisting, though.


Brian

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Re: Wireless network problem - help!

2005-11-09 Thread Laurent Daudelin

on 09/11/05 22:43, Howard Katz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/9/05, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 What about 10.4.3? There were a lot of fixes in that (huge) update...
 
 
 
 10.4.3 is what I'm currently using.  It sounds like IT doesn't want to
 deal with anything newer than 10.3.  However this Univ deals primarily
 with teacher education.  you'd better believe that there's a fair
 number of PB's  being using around here!  IT knows it has to support
 Tiger.  (I hate to think what'll happen when the next
 version--Leopard?--appears)

I still don't understand what 10.4.3 would have introduced that would
require some intervention from your IT department. 802.11b and 802.11g are
well known specifications and every vendor wishing to be compliant has to go
through certification tests before he can call his stuff 802.11b or 802.11g
compliant. The only problem you might experience is that not all wireless
access points support AppleTalk, but, otherwise, it shouldn't matter. The
network negotiation from the PowerBook to the WAP should be the very same.
Heck, it should be the same if you switch to built-in Ethernet. If it's
802.11b or 802.11g, then it should work.

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