[gentoo-user] vi/imacs (was: Postfix vs. Qmail)

2003-06-06 Thread Marshal Newrock
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, DE SMET Bram (BDSR) wrote:

 Let us try to stop this before it gets into a flamewar.
 Next thing we know, people are going to say that emacs is better than vi ;-)

http://www.vimacs.cx  :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to start wm from console

2003-06-06 Thread David Dorward
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:23:32PM -0700, Klaus D. Neumann wrote:

 How can I start my favorite wm (KDE) from the console after login as
 a second user. My SuSE command: WINDOWMANAGER=kde3; startx -- :1
 doesn't seem to work. With it I end up in twm instead.

Something like this in ~/.xinitrc should do the trick:

#!/bin/bash
if [ -n $WINDOWMANAGER ]; then
exec $WINDOWMANAGER
else
exec startkde
fi

... but give the name of the excutable rather then a keyword
(startkde, not kde3) and lose the semi-colon.

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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables

2003-06-06 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Although correct, you need to make sure that you insert into the firewall
(iptables) at a point where it will actually matter (for instance, an
explicit accept before it will pretty much make your new entry useless).

Tom Veldhouse

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 Hi.

 Quick question. I would like to block an ip temporarily. I would like to
 accomplish this without modifying my firewall just on the fly. I am
 banking that all I would need to do is type

 iptables -I INPUT -s [ip] -j DROP

 Am I on the right track or is this not correct. Any help would be
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[gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-06 Thread Larry Wright
I am currently running qmail + fetchmail + procmail + spamassassin. Everything 
works pretty well, but I'm a little dissapointed in spamassassin's accuracy. 
I'd ideally like something similar to spambayes, which is trainable. 
Unfortunately spambayes does not appear to work with maildir. I'd really like 
to keep qmail, does anyone know of a bayesian filter that works with 
qmail/maildir?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-06 Thread wes chow

bogofilter might be what you're looking for.  I'm using it on my 
postfix+mailfilter system, but it should work fine with procmail.

Wes


On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Larry Wright wrote:

 I am currently running qmail + fetchmail + procmail + spamassassin. Everything 
 works pretty well, but I'm a little dissapointed in spamassassin's accuracy. 
 I'd ideally like something similar to spambayes, which is trainable. 
 Unfortunately spambayes does not appear to work with maildir. I'd really like 
 to keep qmail, does anyone know of a bayesian filter that works with 
 qmail/maildir?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-06 Thread Ryan
I've been using bogofilter (http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/) with
procmail with great success. A few false negatives now and then but I
haven't seen a false positive yet. The only thing I don't like about the
setup is that I have to go to a commandline to mark the spam that slipped
through bogofilter as spam. I wish that I could just throw something in a
cron job that every couple hours it would re-compute its wordlists based
on the contents of my spam folders and my other folders. Does anyone have
a script that does this? I hear that spamprobe
(http://spamprobe.sourceforge.net/) (not used it yet) has this capability
built-in. Maybe I'll try switching to see how it works.

Ryan
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 I am currently running qmail + fetchmail + procmail + spamassassin.
 Everything
 works pretty well, but I'm a little dissapointed in spamassassin's
 accuracy.
 I'd ideally like something similar to spambayes, which is trainable.
 Unfortunately spambayes does not appear to work with maildir. I'd really
 like
 to keep qmail, does anyone know of a bayesian filter that works with
 qmail/maildir?

 Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-06 Thread MrPaulAR
Try the current spamassassin (2.54).

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin

Looking for bayesian only then bogofilter may be a better choice (I prefer 
spamassassin on the server  popfile on the client).

emerge net-mail/bogofilter

Paul

At 08:31 AM 06/05/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I am currently running qmail + fetchmail + procmail + spamassassin. 
Everything
works pretty well, but I'm a little dissapointed in spamassassin's accuracy.
I'd ideally like something similar to spambayes, which is trainable.
Unfortunately spambayes does not appear to work with maildir. I'd really like
to keep qmail, does anyone know of a bayesian filter that works with
qmail/maildir?

Thanks,
Larry
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[gentoo-user] Re: gcc compiler cantcreate executables!

2003-06-06 Thread Jonathan Chocron
On jeu, 05 jun 2003, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:

 On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 21:05, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
  configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot 
  create executables.
 
 I got this error when I had a line break in my cflags.  Check it.
 
 
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Thanks for you response. It pointed me towards an answer. In fact, my
CFLAGS were fine (anyway, I checked the avifile ebuild and it does not
take the flags into account). I edited avifile configure script, and
it appears it was looking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++, I looked up g++
and it lied in a directory called i586-pc-linux-gnu, so I went into my
make.conf and changed the 6 to a 5 in my host variable. It works now,
although I don't really understand why. Do you have any clue as to
what happened ? Why are all the other apps comiling alright ?

Thanks again, 

Jonathan
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Re: [gentoo-user] bin2iso problems

2003-06-06 Thread Alexander Futasz
On 05 Jun 2003 00:35:30 +0200, Brian Reichholf wrote:
 i have a bin file, and wanted to extract one file from it,
 so i emerged bin2iso and converted it to an iso file (at least so i
 hoped)
 
 strangely enough the result was: filename-01.iso and
 filename-02.iso(the bin is an image of an SVCD)
 
 i wasn't that surprised though and just though `what the hell' and
 wanted to mount the filename-02.iso as a loopback device...
 
 so here goes:
 
 $ mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/file.iso /mnt/iso
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
or too many mounted filesystems

If you 'emerge virtualcd' you can mount bin/cue. Check the Documentation
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[gentoo-user] Re: [lists] [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-06 Thread Anthony Ventimiglia
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On Thursday 05 June 2003 09:31 am, Larry Wright wrote:
 I am currently running qmail + fetchmail + procmail + spamassassin.
 Everything works pretty well, but I'm a little dissapointed in
 spamassassin's accuracy. I'd ideally like something similar to spambayes,
 which is trainable. Unfortunately spambayes does not appear to work with
 maildir. I'd really like to keep qmail, does anyone know of a bayesian
 filter that works with qmail/maildir?


Drop that Spamassassin, it's tacking Bayesian filters on in hopes to stay 
alive, because Bayesian is the only way to do it.

I just installed Gentoo a couple weeks ago, on my last box I'd been using my 
own Bayesian filter which basically worked via procmail, mine was kind of 
crude, so I installed popfile (popfile.sf.net) when I set up Gentoo. Popfile 
has a real nice HTTP based control interface, but it is unfortunatley does 
not do things the Linux way. 

Bogofilter should be more *nixy since it was written by esr, but I don't know 
if it supports more than two buckets.
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[gentoo-user] perl 5.6.1 -- 5.8.0 upgrade

2003-06-06 Thread raptor
hi 
just upgraded to perl 5.8, and can't install XML::Parser ?!
I see that there is still stuff staying from 5.6 ver... and installation process of 
XML uses it , in fact it can't compile 'cause of some error with 5.6..

How can I wipe out ver.5.6 ?!?!
do I have to do something else after the upgrade

thanx alot 
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Re: [gentoo-user] perl 5.6.1 -- 5.8.0 upgrade

2003-06-06 Thread raptor
oopps  see :

#make test
.
t/namespaces..ok
t/paramentok 1/12
501 Can't load '/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux/auto/HTML/Parser/Parser.so' 
for module HTML::Parser: 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux/auto/HTML/Parser/Parser.so: undefined 
symbol: perl_get_sv file:/root/.cpan/build/XML-Parser-2.31/t/foo.dtd
Handler couldn't resolve external entity at line 8, column 0, byte 173
error in processing external entity reference at line 8, column 0, byte 173:
  !ENTITY more SYSTEM t/ext2.ent
]

^
fooHappy, happy
barjoy;, joy;/bar
 at /root/.cpan/build/XML-Parser-2.31/blib/lib/XML/Parser.pm line 185
t/paramentdubious
Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
DIED. FAILED tests 2-12
Failed 11/12 tests, 8.33% okay



 hi 
 just upgraded to perl 5.8, and can't install XML::Parser ?!
 I see that there is still stuff staying from 5.6 ver... and installation process of 
 XML uses it , in fact it can't compile 'cause of some error with 5.6..
 
 How can I wipe out ver.5.6 ?!?!
 do I have to do something else after the upgrade
 
 thanx alot 
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVB in the UK

2003-06-06 Thread Juri Haberland
Jim Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:39:42PM +, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:
 Has anybody setup a DVB card on Linux to view channels in the UK? Would
 be interested to see what hardware, software etc you are using.
 
 Not really the right list this try the myth tv lists they should have
 the info you are looking for.

Or the VDR list [EMAIL PROTECTED], there are a couple of guys from the UK
on it.
See also http://www.cadsoft.de/people/kls/vdr/
and http://www.linuxtv.org/

Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] pkg's safe for removing ?

2003-06-06 Thread raptor
hi,

how can I get the list of the packages and their sources (/usr/portage/distfiles) that 
are safe for removing.
And how I have to remove them from the system ? emerge unmerge ? or other way ?
One small glitch I don't want to remove sources from pakges that are not installed, 
only older versions of already installed pakges...


My distfiles directory is now ~1.8G

thanx
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Re: [gentoo-user] pkg's safe for removing ?

2003-06-06 Thread brett holcomb
You can remove anything from the distfiles directory.  It 
will just download them again.  You could check the world 
file or use qpkg -I to list the installed files or epm (I 
think that's the utility) as in epm -qa.

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:16:54 +0300
 raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,

how can I get the list of the packages and their sources 
(/usr/portage/distfiles) that are safe for removing.
And how I have to remove them from the system ? emerge 
unmerge ? or other way ?
One small glitch I don't want to remove sources from 
pakges that are not installed, only older versions of 
already installed pakges...

My distfiles directory is now ~1.8G

thanx
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Re: [gentoo-user] pkg's safe for removing ?

2003-06-06 Thread raptor
I expected somethin like :

query installed pkgs and look at distfile is there some old files that can be safely 
deleted.. :))
list them or directly remove!

 You can remove anything from the distfiles directory.  It 
 will just download them again.  You could check the world 
 file or use qpkg -I to list the installed files or epm (I 
 think that's the utility) as in epm -qa.
 
 On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:16:54 +0300
   raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi,
 
 how can I get the list of the packages and their sources 
 (/usr/portage/distfiles) that are safe for removing.
 And how I have to remove them from the system ? emerge 
 unmerge ? or other way ?
 One small glitch I don't want to remove sources from 
 pakges that are not installed, only older versions of 
 already installed pakges...
 
 
 My distfiles directory is now ~1.8G
 
 thanx
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RE: [gentoo-user] pkg's safe for removing ?

2003-06-06 Thread Wrolstad, Andy
There are two ways that I know of to check dependencies and see what
packages are safe for removal.

emerge -p depclean (p for pretend first to see what will be removed)

0r from the gentoolkit

dep-clean


-Original Message-
From: raptor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] pkg's safe for removing ?


I expected somethin like :

query installed pkgs and look at distfile is there some old files that can
be safely deleted.. :))
list them or directly remove!

 You can remove anything from the distfiles directory.  It 
 will just download them again.  You could check the world 
 file or use qpkg -I to list the installed files or epm (I 
 think that's the utility) as in epm -qa.
 
 On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:16:54 +0300
   raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi,
 
 how can I get the list of the packages and their sources 
 (/usr/portage/distfiles) that are safe for removing.
 And how I have to remove them from the system ? emerge 
 unmerge ? or other way ?
 One small glitch I don't want to remove sources from 
 pakges that are not installed, only older versions of 
 already installed pakges...
 
 
 My distfiles directory is now ~1.8G
 
 thanx
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Re: [gentoo-user] pkg's safe for removing ?

2003-06-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:16:54 +0300 raptor wrote:

 hi,
 
 how can I get the list of the packages and their sources
 (/usr/portage/distfiles) that are safe for removing. And how I have to
 remove them from the system ? emerge unmerge ? or other way ? One
 small glitch I don't want to remove sources from pakges that are not
 installed, only older versions of already installed pakges...
 
 
 My distfiles directory is now ~1.8G

In the forums there are some scripts for this purpose, but none of them
is official.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Which java-sdk?

2003-06-06 Thread Gwendolyn van der Linden
 Which java sdk should i use?

What do you want to use it for?

Gwendolyn.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-06 Thread Kurt Lieber
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:31:48AM -0500 or thereabouts, Larry Wright wrote:
 I am currently running qmail + fetchmail + procmail + spamassassin. Everything 
 works pretty well, but I'm a little dissapointed in spamassassin's accuracy. 

As Jens said, the latest version of SpamAssassin supports bayesian
filtering.  I've been using it for almost 2 weeks now and, after taking the
time to train it properly, it has been remarkably accurate.

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Re: [gentoo-user] pkg's safe for removing ?

2003-06-06 Thread brett holcomb
Not that easy!

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:48:10 +0300
 raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I expected somethin like :

query installed pkgs and look at distfile is there some 
old files that can be safely deleted.. :))
list them or directly remove!

You can remove anything from the distfiles directory. 
It 
will just download them again.  You could check the 
world 
file or use qpkg -I to list the installed files or epm 
(I 
think that's the utility) as in epm -qa.

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:16:54 +0300
  raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,

how can I get the list of the packages and their 
sources 
(/usr/portage/distfiles) that are safe for removing.
And how I have to remove them from the system ? emerge 
unmerge ? or other way ?
One small glitch I don't want to remove sources from 
pakges that are not installed, only older versions of 
already installed pakges...


My distfiles directory is now ~1.8G

thanx
raptor

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which java-sdk?

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Foster
I've found the sun j2sdk1.4.1_02 to be good. The 1.3 jdk doesn't include
JSSE (aka SSL and HTTPS) so if you need that feature go with 1.4.

IBM seems to have stopped with 1.3. I believe IBM was going for speed
and did pretty good with that aspect (also check out jikes for compile
speed). Can't speak to blackdown.
-mark

On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 17:53, Ing. Bernardo Lopez O. wrote:
 Which java sdk should i use?
 
 blackdown, sun or ibm? 
 
 Also I want the best performance and the less memory usage (for the jre)
 
 also version 1.2 1.3 1.4? 
 
 Which is the most compatible today 1.3 or 1.4??
 
 Could i use one jdk and a different jre? (like sun - ibm?)
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which java-sdk?

2003-06-06 Thread Richard Kilgore
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 05:35:47PM +0200, Gwendolyn van der Linden wrote:
  Which java sdk should i use?
 
 What do you want to use it for?
 
 Gwendolyn.

IBM's JVMs for Linux have always outperformed the Sun ones on
Linux (and Blackdown, I think).  They have provide both a 1.3.x
and 1.4.x JVM, and both perform very well.

Sun made drastic improvements to performance between 1.3.x and
1.4.x, which makes it popular.  I think the blackdown 1.4.x JVM
also performs well, and it is the only one with a plugin that
you'll get to work in your browsers in Gentoo (there is some
glibc version issue with all the others, last I checked).

If you want to write code that runs everywhere right now, there
are still lots of people stuck in 1.3.x land, so you might want
to shy away from 1.4.x for a little longer.  Some of the new
library functionality in 1.4.x is available via libraries from
jakarta (http://jakarta.apache.org), such as log4j, Regex, ORO
(perl-like regex).

- richard

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[gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Chris Bare
I've installed gentoo successfully several times before, but this time
I'm getting the following when I try to boot the first time:

VFS: Cannot open root device hda3 or 03:03

I have the following in my grub.conf:

title=Gentoo  
root (hd0,0) 
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda3 

/dev/hda3 is fine becuase I can mount it when I boot from the CD.
I've rebuilt the kernel 3 times, double checking that I have the IDE
driver and reiserfs support built in, not as a module.

What else could I be missing?
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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread brett holcomb
Did you have /boot mounted when you copied bzImage to it?

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:40:09 -0400 (EDT)
 Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've installed gentoo successfully several times before, 
but this time
I'm getting the following when I try to boot the first 
time:

VFS: Cannot open root device hda3 or 03:03

I have the following in my grub.conf:

title=Gentoo  
root (hd0,0) 
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda3 

/dev/hda3 is fine becuase I can mount it when I boot from 
the CD.
I've rebuilt the kernel 3 times, double checking that I 
have the IDE
driver and reiserfs support built in, not as a module.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Chris Bare
 
 Did you have /boot mounted when you copied bzImage to it?
 

yes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread brett holcomb
Hmm, for some reason it can't mount the root device.

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:44:11 -0400 (EDT)
 Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you have /boot mounted when you copied bzImage to 
it?

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[gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID Gentoo

2003-06-06 Thread MooktaKiNG
OK. this is the most frustrating thing i've ever had with Gentoo.

I can boot with the liveCD. I can load the produles, ataraid and
pdcraid. it does work. I install successfully. Then i install Grub.
I follow the howto and do root=/dev/ataraid/d0p1
My /boot is a seperate partition in hda1.

But it just doesn't boot.

Grub does not know what /dev/ataraid/d0p1 is. To it it doesn't work.

My hd's are:

hda= 40Gb HD use it for this and that. /boot is loacted here.
hdb= My backup HD and i also usually have swap here
hde  hdg= Raid striping. each is a 20Gb ATA100 drives.

In BIOS hda is the first to boot.

My raid is partitioned:

hda1 is /boot
disc0/part1 as root
disc0/part5 is swap

I know a LOT of people have got this working.

I tried everything that i found in gentoo's forum
Without any luck.

Its just Grub. thats whats making me very angry.

I also have WinXP in hda2, and i might install WinXP in disc0/part2
if i can get grub to boot it.

Any help will be appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Tom Wesley
On Thursday 05 June 2003 17:44, Chris Bare wrote:
  Did you have /boot mounted when you copied bzImage to it?

 yes.

could you post your fstab and fdisk output, also the output of mount from the 
livecd with it mounted?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-06 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 11:45:21AM +0200, Frank Tegtmeyer wrote:
 The discussion Postfix vs. qmail nearly always comes down to the point
 where someone says that either the qmail license or Bernstein
 sucks. But personal feelings or FUD feeded knowledge are not the base
 to choose an MTA.

Although, it is not wrong to reject qmail on philosophical grounds.  A
serious Free software person might wish to do that, but I do see
this done a lot and then passed off as a technical failing.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to start wm from console

2003-06-06 Thread Joel Brauer
If you want kde to be your default wm, then make sure there is a startup
script in /etc/X11/Sessions.  Probably something like kde-3.1.2.  Then
in your /etc/rc.conf file set XSESSION=kde-3.1.2 or whatever script you
want to be run from the /etc/X11/Sessions dir. Make sure you don't have
a .xinitrc in your home dir, because it supercedes all other methods.

Hope that helps!
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[gentoo-user] wierd problem with unicode

2003-06-06 Thread Spundun Bhatt
Hi, 
I installed indlinux (not supported by gentoo yet) for indian language
support some 3 weeks back, for a week or so it worked great, I was able
to type in scripts like hindi and gujarati, but about 2 weeks back
suddenly I have started having problems. I can still use the scripts
with gedit and gaim but I cannot use it in the file save/open dialog
boxes. I had named files in unicode but I canonot see them now in the
open file dialog box of gedit. In the save dialog box I cannot type the
filename in these indian scripts. I can still see the filenames
perfectly fine in nautilus(of the files I had named before this problem
started). And I can open them through nautilus also, the contents of the
file , I can modify in unicode through gedit file, but only the
filenames are causing this problem. I must have reinstalled something to
have had this problem.
Anybody has anyidea whats wrong?
Thanx a lot
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RE: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID Gentoo

2003-06-06 Thread Kevin J. Anderson


--Original Message-
-From: MooktaKiNG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:55 PM
-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Subject: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID  Gentoo
-
-
-OK. this is the most frustrating thing i've ever had with Gentoo.
-
-I can boot with the liveCD. I can load the produles, ataraid and
-pdcraid. it does work. I install successfully. Then i install Grub.
-I follow the howto and do root=/dev/ataraid/d0p1
-My /boot is a seperate partition in hda1.
-
-But it just doesn't boot.
-
-Grub does not know what /dev/ataraid/d0p1 is. To it it doesn't work.
-
-My hd's are:
-
-hda= 40Gb HD use it for this and that. /boot is loacted here.
-hdb= My backup HD and i also usually have swap here
-hde  hdg= Raid striping. each is a 20Gb ATA100 drives.
-
-In BIOS hda is the first to boot.
-
-My raid is partitioned:
-
-hda1 is /boot
-disc0/part1 as root
-disc0/part5 is swap
-
-I know a LOT of people have got this working.
-
-I tried everything that i found in gentoo's forum
-Without any luck.
-
-Its just Grub. thats whats making me very angry.

I spent numerous hours last weekend trying to get gentoo to boot completely
from a promise raid also.  It saw the bood drive and started the kernel just
fine finally, but I could never get it past the root filesystem.  kernel
panic every time. tried both gentoo and ac sources etc.

I finally gave up, put everything on the regular ide channel, then mounted
the raide after the fact.

kev


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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID Gentoo

2003-06-06 Thread dsoper
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 06:54:36PM +0100, MooktaKiNG wrote:

 OK. this is the most frustrating thing i've ever had with Gentoo.
 
 I can boot with the liveCD. I can load the produles, ataraid and
 pdcraid. it does work. I install successfully. Then i install Grub.
 I follow the howto and do root=/dev/ataraid/d0p1
 My /boot is a seperate partition in hda1.
 
 But it just doesn't boot.

I gave up using grub for this, and used (groan) lilo.  My /etc/fstab
looks like this:

/dev/ataraid/disc0/part1/boot   ext2 noauto,noatime  1 1
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part3/   ext3 noatime 1 1
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part2noneswap sw  0 0
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part5/usr ext3noatime 1 1
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part6/var ext3noatime 1 2
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part7/usr/local ext3noatime 1 2
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part8/opt ext3noatime 1 2
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part9/home ext3noatime 1 2

And my /etc/lilo.conf looks like this:

menu-scheme=Wb
prompt
timeout = 50 
lba32
boot=/dev/ataraid/disc0/disc
disk = /dev/ataraid/disc0/disc
bios = 0x80

map = /boot/System.map
delay = 50
vga = normal# Normal VGA console   
# End LILO global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
image = /boot/vmlinuz
root = /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3
append = idebus=66, ide0=ata66
label = Gentoo
read-only # read-only for checking

image = /boot/vmlinuz.old
root = /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3 
label = Old.kernel 
read-only # read-only for checking

I hope this helps.  If you find a way to make grub work, please let me
know, as I would much prefer to be using grub.

Cheers,
Dennis
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RE: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Rex Young


/etc/fstab from the root I can't mount:

/dev/hd1/boot   ext2
noauto,noatime  1 1
/dev/hd3/   reiserfs
noatime 0 0
/dev/hd2noneswapsw 
 0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660 
noauto,ro   0 0
proc/proc   procdefaults   
 0 0
tmpfs   /dev/shmtmpfs   defaults   
 0 0

I think that if you double-check things, you will find that you
do not have /dev/hd1, /dev/hd2 nor /dev/hd3.  You probably have
/dev/hda1, /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda3.  Not that there is an a added
between the numeral and the letter d.  Hope it helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Chris Bare
 I think that if you double-check things, you will find that you
 do not have /dev/hd1, /dev/hd2 nor /dev/hd3.  You probably have
 /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda3.  Not that there is an a added
 between the numeral and the letter d.  Hope it helps.
 

thanks for spotting that. I've fixed it, but I had it right in grub. The
problem is before it even managed to get to fstab.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID Gentoo

2003-06-06 Thread Ricardo Nuno
hi,

I have a PROMISE controler also and i got it to work with grub.
here is my config.

/etc/fstab

/dev/ataraid/disc0/part1/boot   ext3
noauto,noatime  1 1
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part2/   ext3noatime
0 0
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part3/usrext3noatime
0 0
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part5/home   ext3noatime
0 0
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part6 none   swapsw
0 0
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part7/str0   ext3noatime
0 0


/boot/grub/grub.conf

default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo Linux on RAID
root (hd0,1)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/ataraid/disc0/part2


Hope it helps, lemme now if it worked for you

RNuno

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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID  Gentoo


On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 06:54:36PM +0100, MooktaKiNG wrote:

 OK. this is the most frustrating thing i've ever had with Gentoo.

 I can boot with the liveCD. I can load the produles, ataraid and
 pdcraid. it does work. I install successfully. Then i install Grub.
 I follow the howto and do root=/dev/ataraid/d0p1
 My /boot is a seperate partition in hda1.

 But it just doesn't boot.

I gave up using grub for this, and used (groan) lilo.  My /etc/fstab
looks like this:

/dev/ataraid/disc0/part1/boot   ext2 noauto,noatime  1 1
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part3/   ext3 noatime 1 1
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part2noneswap sw  0 0
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part5/usr ext3noatime 1 1
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part6/var ext3noatime 1 2
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part7/usr/local ext3noatime 1
2
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part8/opt ext3noatime 1 2
/dev/ataraid/disc0/part9/home ext3noatime 1 2

And my /etc/lilo.conf looks like this:

menu-scheme=Wb
prompt
timeout = 50
lba32
boot=/dev/ataraid/disc0/disc
disk = /dev/ataraid/disc0/disc
bios = 0x80

map = /boot/System.map
delay = 50
vga = normal# Normal VGA console
# End LILO global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
image = /boot/vmlinuz
root = /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3
append = idebus=66, ide0=ata66
label = Gentoo
read-only # read-only for checking

image = /boot/vmlinuz.old
root = /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3
label = Old.kernel
read-only # read-only for checking

I hope this helps.  If you find a way to make grub work, please let me
know, as I would much prefer to be using grub.

Cheers,
Dennis
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Facilities Services-- The University of Oregon
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leaders.  That is easy.  All you have to do is to tell them they are being
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[gentoo-user] artsshell permissions (was Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop + Gentoo)

2003-06-06 Thread wes chow

So, I got it to work with a little hack.  Turns out that if I use OSS 
sound compiled into the kernel, I can suspend and resume, but artsd 
doesn't handle it very well.  If I run artsshell suspend to suspend 
artsd either before the suspend or after the resume, sound in kde resumes 
fine.  I put this into the /etc/apm/events.d directory.

Now, the hackish part is... artsshell only connects to arts if you run it 
as the user at the console.  It does not work as root, and apmd runs the 
suspend/resume scripts as root.  Does anybody know how to disable 
chekcking in artsd?  As it is, my script tries to figure out who's logged 
in at the console, performs an su, then runs artsshell.  I'm probably 
doing all sorts of naughty things security-wise.

Wes


On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Jason Nielsen wrote:

  
  Hmmm... isn't this kind of tough if you use KDE/Gnome (they like to keep 
  control of sound with arts/esd)?
  
  If I can get sound compiled into the kernel, will that help?
  
  Wes
  
 
 Good point, I don't use either so that slipped my mind...  but to answer
 your question sound will unload properly if you compile the sound into the
 kernel.  I'm not sure why that is but probably has something to do with
 the kernel suspending and resuming properly.. no running module gets hung!  
 I found OSS to suck ass though for my intel8x0 so I switched back to
 alsa... you can't compile alsa into the kernel unless you are using 2.5.*
 and I had trouble with pcmcia-cs with these kernels.. could be fixed now
 but I haven't tried as everything is working fine.  All you really have to
 do is find out how to stop esd/arts and restart it on resume.  Basically
 in /etc/apm/suspend.d you would have a script that stops all apps running
 sound and shuts down esd/arts then runs a '/etc/init.d/alsasound stop' and
 in /etc/app/resume.d you would '/etc/init.d/alsasound start' and restart
 esd/arts and all sound apps you like to have running and all should work
 nice.
 
 Cheers,
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Rex Young
thanks for spotting that. I've fixed it, but I had it right in 
grub. The
problem is before it even managed to get to fstab.

I looked back at your original e-mail, and I'll be durned if I
can see what might be wrong.  Sorry I can't help.

-rex

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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Chris Bare
 I looked back at your original e-mail, and I'll be durned if I
 can see what might be wrong.  Sorry I can't help.
 

I have a feeling I've left something out of the kernel that should be
built in statically, but I haven't spotted the problem yet.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Martin Larsson
diff with a working kernel? ;)

On tor, 2003-06-05 at 18:25, Chris Bare wrote:
  I looked back at your original e-mail, and I'll be durned if I
  can see what might be wrong.  Sorry I can't help.
  
 
 I have a feeling I've left something out of the kernel that should be
 built in statically, but I haven't spotted the problem yet.
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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Chris Bare
 
 diff with a working kernel? ;)
 

The only working one I have at the moment is the liveCD. What's weird is
I've installed gentoo at least 2 other times on this exact same hardware
and never had this problem. Maybe I got a newer kernel source this time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Martin Larsson
IIRC the /proc/config exist on the livecd

On tor, 2003-06-05 at 18:29, Chris Bare wrote:
  
  diff with a working kernel? ;)
  
 
 The only working one I have at the moment is the liveCD. What's weird is
 I've installed gentoo at least 2 other times on this exact same hardware
 and never had this problem. Maybe I got a newer kernel source this time.
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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Tom Wesley
On Thursday 05 June 2003 18:52, Chris Bare wrote:
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  On Thursday 05 June 2003 17:44, Chris Bare wrote:
Did you have /boot mounted when you copied bzImage to it?
  
   yes.
 
  could you post your fstab and fdisk output, also the output of mount from
  t= he=20
  livecd with it mounted?

 /etc/fstab from the root I can't mount:

 /dev/hd1/boot   ext2noauto,noatime  1 1
 /dev/hd3/   reiserfsnoatime 0 0
 /dev/hd2noneswapsw  0 0
 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660 noauto,ro  
 0 0 proc/proc   procdefaults   
 0 0 tmpfs   /dev/shmtmpfs   defaults   
 0 0


 fdisk p
Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
 /dev/hda1   * 113104422   83  Linux
 /dev/hda214   138   1004062+  82  Linux swap
 /dev/hda3   139  4982  38909430   83  Linux

 mount (from within the chrooted environment on the livecd)
 rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
 tmpfs on / type tmpfs (rw)
 devfs on /dev type devfs (rw)
 /newroot/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 on /mnt/cdrom type iso9660 (ro)
 /dev/cloop on /mnt/cloop type ext2 (ro)
 proc on /proc type proc (rw)
 tmpfs on /mnt/.init.d type tmpfs (rw)
 tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
 usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)
 /dev/hda3 on / type reiserfs (rw)
 /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
 proc on /proc type proc (rw)


 Thanks for your help.

Try a:
~#  grep REISERFS /usr/src/linux/.config

CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y
# CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is not set
# CONFIG_REISERFS_PROC_INFO is not set

you should see the first line =y ?  does yours match.  If it does then try 
this:

cd /usr/src/linux
mv .config /
make mrproper
mv /.config .
make dep bzImage modules modules_install
mount /boot
cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot

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RE: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Knecht
 I've installed gentoo successfully several times before, but this time
 I'm getting the following when I try to boot the first time:

 VFS: Cannot open root device hda3 or 03:03


It's a total guess as I've seen something similar to this on Redhat,
although not with ext2 partitions. Is the 03:03 part a clue? Is that saying
something like it's looking for /dev/hdd? I might have expected it to say
00:03.

In my case it was getting confused about my specific EIDE controller on an
Asus A7V266 MB. To get around it I had to lie about what drive it was to get
it to boot and told it I was booting off of hdd. This only happened when we
built our own kernel from kernel.org. Redhat's sources managed to get it
right somehow.

If it is something like this, the clue will be a bit higher up in the
console while booting. Look at what drives it says it found. Does it see hda
or something else?

I could be completely wrong about this.

Best of luck,
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RE: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID Gentoo

2003-06-06 Thread MooktaKiNG
Ricardo:

I don't understand how you got it working with
root=/dev/ataraid/disc0/part2

i thought grub excepts d0p2. weird.

Did you do anything special with the kernel?

Are any options you need to compile in. I mean i think i compiled
the correct modules but, who knows.

The weirdest thing is different people says different things.

 hi,

 I have a PROMISE controler also and i got it to work with grub.
 here is my config.

 /etc/fstab

 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part1/boot   ext3
 noauto,noatime  1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part2/   ext3
 noatime
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3/usrext3
 noatime
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part5/home   ext3
 noatime
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part6 none   swapsw
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part7/str0   ext3
 noatime
 0 0


 /boot/grub/grub.conf

 default 0
 timeout 30
 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

 title=Gentoo Linux on RAID
 root (hd0,1)
 kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/ataraid/disc0/part2


 Hope it helps, lemme now if it worked for you

 RNuno

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Junho de 2003 18:57
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID  Gentoo


 On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 06:54:36PM +0100, MooktaKiNG wrote:

 OK. this is the most frustrating thing i've ever had with Gentoo.

 I can boot with the liveCD. I can load the produles, ataraid and
 pdcraid. it does work. I install successfully. Then i install
 Grub.
 I follow the howto and do root=/dev/ataraid/d0p1
 My /boot is a seperate partition in hda1.

 But it just doesn't boot.

 I gave up using grub for this, and used (groan) lilo.  My /etc/fstab
 looks like this:

 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part1/boot   ext2 noauto,noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3/   ext3 noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part2noneswap sw
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part5/usr ext3noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part6/var ext3noatime
 1 2
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part7/usr/local ext3noatime
   1
 2
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part8/opt ext3noatime
 1 2
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part9/home ext3noatime
  1 2

 And my /etc/lilo.conf looks like this:

 menu-scheme=Wb
 prompt
 timeout = 50
 lba32
 boot=/dev/ataraid/disc0/disc
 disk = /dev/ataraid/disc0/disc
 bios = 0x80

 map = /boot/System.map
 delay = 50
 vga = normal# Normal VGA console
 # End LILO global section
 # Linux bootable partition config begins
 image = /boot/vmlinuz
 root = /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3
 append = idebus=66, ide0=ata66
 label = Gentoo
 read-only # read-only for checking

   image = /boot/vmlinuz.old
   root = /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3
   label = Old.kernel
   read-only # read-only for checking

 I hope this helps.  If you find a way to make grub work, please let
 me
 know, as I would much prefer to be using grub.

 Cheers,
 Dennis
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 the
 leaders.  That is easy.  All you have to do is to tell them they are
 being
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[gentoo-user] Good ways to wine

2003-06-06 Thread Aaron Stout
Hi.

I have recently setup the stock version of wine and a small win98se
partition. In my fstab I made a little entry for users to mount the
win98 partition so they have read write permissions. I noticed that Wine
will once and a while move directories around giving them garbled names.
Thus making win98 pretty unstable until the garbled folders files are
moved back to their proper place.With the way I have things setup at the
moment. Many win32 applications have worked very well through Wine. But
I fear it will in the end tear up the actual Windows partition. To make
a long story short I would just like some good tips for setting up Wine
with an existing win98se partition if anyone has them. All i really want
to achieve is MS office. Games are no concern.

  
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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Thursday 05 Jun 2003 19:40, Mark Knecht wrote:
 It's a total guess as I've seen something similar to this on Redhat,
 although not with ext2 partitions. Is the 03:03 part a clue? Is that
 saying something like it's looking for /dev/hdd? I might have
 expected it to say 00:03.

Sorry Mark, 03:03 _is_ /dev/hda3

$ ll /dev/hda3
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   33 2003-06-05 13:41 /dev/hda3 - 
ide/host0/bus0/

$ ll /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3
brw---1 root root   3,   3 1970-01-01 01:00 
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3

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Re: [gentoo-user] Good ways to wine

2003-06-06 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Thursday 05 Jun 2003 20:50, Aaron Stout wrote:
 Hi.

 I have recently setup the stock version of wine and a small win98se
 partition. In my fstab I made a little entry for users to mount the
 win98 partition so they have read write permissions. I noticed that
 Wine will once and a while move directories around giving them
 garbled names. Thus making win98 pretty unstable until the garbled
 folders files are moved back to their proper place.With the way I
 have things setup at the moment. Many win32 applications have worked
 very well through Wine. But I fear it will in the end tear up the
 actual Windows partition. To make a long story short I would just
 like some good tips for setting up Wine with an existing win98se
 partition if anyone has them. All i really want to achieve is MS
 office. Games are no concern.

$ wine /mnt/win/d/MICROSOFT\ OFFICE/Office/winword.exe
...works4me

from fstab:
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RE: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID Gentoo

2003-06-06 Thread Ricardo Nuno
Well my system is working :)

cat /proc/pci

.

Bus  0, device   9, function  0:
RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20268R (rev 2).
  IRQ 5.
  Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=4.Max Lat=18.
  I/O at 0xa400 [0xa407].
  I/O at 0xa800 [0xa803].
  I/O at 0xac00 [0xac07].
  I/O at 0xb000 [0xb003].
  I/O at 0xb400 [0xb40f].
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf600 [0xf600].

Anyway i have 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel and i compiled
with this options:

ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support  ---
  * ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support
  IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices  ---
   [*] PROMISE PDC202{46|62|65|67|68|69|70} support
   [*]   Special UDMA Feature
   [*]   Special FastTrak Feature
   * Support for IDE Raid controllers (EXPERIMENTAL)
   *Support Promise software RAID (Fasttrak(tm)) (EXPERIMENTAL)

So basicly i access my drives like if i used modeprobe pdcraid
on /dev/ataraid/disc0 (for the first array) ..disc1 for the second array.

What is the error that you are getting ?

regards,
RNuno



-Original Message-
From: MooktaKiNG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Junho de 2003 20:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID  Gentoo


Ricardo:

I don't understand how you got it working with
root=/dev/ataraid/disc0/part2

i thought grub excepts d0p2. weird.

Did you do anything special with the kernel?

Are any options you need to compile in. I mean i think i compiled
the correct modules but, who knows.

The weirdest thing is different people says different things.

 hi,

 I have a PROMISE controler also and i got it to work with grub.
 here is my config.

 /etc/fstab

 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part1/boot   ext3
 noauto,noatime  1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part2/   ext3
 noatime
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3/usrext3
 noatime
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part5/home   ext3
 noatime
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part6 none   swapsw
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part7/str0   ext3
 noatime
 0 0


 /boot/grub/grub.conf

 default 0
 timeout 30
 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

 title=Gentoo Linux on RAID
 root (hd0,1)
 kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/ataraid/disc0/part2


 Hope it helps, lemme now if it worked for you

 RNuno

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Junho de 2003 18:57
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID  Gentoo


 On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 06:54:36PM +0100, MooktaKiNG wrote:

 OK. this is the most frustrating thing i've ever had with Gentoo.

 I can boot with the liveCD. I can load the produles, ataraid and
 pdcraid. it does work. I install successfully. Then i install
 Grub.
 I follow the howto and do root=/dev/ataraid/d0p1
 My /boot is a seperate partition in hda1.

 But it just doesn't boot.

 I gave up using grub for this, and used (groan) lilo.  My /etc/fstab
 looks like this:

 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part1/boot   ext2 noauto,noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3/   ext3 noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part2noneswap sw
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part5/usr ext3noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part6/var ext3noatime
 1 2
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part7/usr/local ext3noatime
   1
 2
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part8/opt ext3noatime
 1 2
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part9/home ext3noatime
  1 2

 And my /etc/lilo.conf looks like this:

 menu-scheme=Wb
 prompt
 timeout = 50
 lba32
 boot=/dev/ataraid/disc0/disc
 disk = /dev/ataraid/disc0/disc
 bios = 0x80

 map = /boot/System.map
 delay = 50
 vga = normal# Normal VGA console
 # End LILO global section
 # Linux bootable partition config begins
 image = /boot/vmlinuz
 root = /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3
 append = idebus=66, ide0=ata66
 label = Gentoo
 read-only # read-only for checking

   image = /boot/vmlinuz.old
   root = /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3
   label = Old.kernel
   read-only # read-only for checking

 I hope this helps.  If you find a way to make grub work, please let
 me
 know, as I would much prefer to be using grub.

 Cheers,
 Dennis
 --
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 Network Supervisor
 Facilities Services-- The University of Oregon
 1276 University of Oregon phone:  541-346-2286
 Eugene, OR  97403 fax:541-346-2299

 Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of
 the
 leaders.  That is easy.  All you have to do is to tell them they are
 being
 attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
 exposing the
 country to danger.  

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Chris Bare
 Rats!  This reminded me that I had the same problem at some point
 because of multiple controllers.  I changed /dev/hda? to /dev/hde?
 and things went just fine.  I think that it was loading the controller
 card before the on-board controller.  Could this be a possibility?
 
 -rex
 

I don't think it could be in my case, I don't have any extra
controllers. I do have USB and 1394, but no devices plugged in. I wonder
if they could cause a problem?

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RE: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Rex Young

I don't think it could be in my case, I don't have any extra
controllers. I do have USB and 1394, but no devices plugged 
in. I wonder
if they could cause a problem?

nah.  I wouldn't think that this would be a problem.  Given that
the bootcd loads the drive as /dev/hda would tend to negate
my previous suggestion, anyway.

Did you specify the correct chipset when you were setting up
the kernel?  This is absolutely the last possibility I can
think of.

-rex

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RE: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID Gentoo

2003-06-06 Thread MooktaKiNG
Well it loads the kernel and then at the end it says there's no
ataraid/disc0/part1 and i should append it.

But i'll try reinstalling again tonight.

 Well my system is working :)

 cat /proc/pci

 .

 Bus  0, device   9, function  0:
 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20268R (rev 2).
   IRQ 5.
   Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=4.Max Lat=18.
   I/O at 0xa400 [0xa407].
   I/O at 0xa800 [0xa803].
   I/O at 0xac00 [0xac07].
   I/O at 0xb000 [0xb003].
   I/O at 0xb400 [0xb40f].
   Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf600 [0xf600].

 Anyway i have 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel and i compiled
 with this options:

 ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support  ---
   * ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support
   IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices  ---
  [*] PROMISE PDC202{46|62|65|67|68|69|70} support
  [*]   Special UDMA Feature
  [*]   Special FastTrak Feature
  * Support for IDE Raid controllers (EXPERIMENTAL)
  *Support Promise software RAID (Fasttrak(tm))
 (EXPERIMENTAL)

 So basicly i access my drives like if i used modeprobe pdcraid
 on /dev/ataraid/disc0 (for the first array) ..disc1 for the second
 array.

 What is the error that you are getting ?

 regards,
 RNuno



 -Original Message-
 From: MooktaKiNG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Junho de 2003 20:51
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID  Gentoo


 Ricardo:

 I don't understand how you got it working with
 root=/dev/ataraid/disc0/part2

 i thought grub excepts d0p2. weird.

 Did you do anything special with the kernel?

 Are any options you need to compile in. I mean i think i compiled
 the correct modules but, who knows.

 The weirdest thing is different people says different things.

 hi,

 I have a PROMISE controler also and i got it to work with grub.
 here is my config.

 /etc/fstab

 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part1/boot   ext3
 noauto,noatime  1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part2/   ext3
 noatime
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3/usrext3
 noatime
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part5/home   ext3
 noatime
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part6 none   swapsw
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part7/str0   ext3
 noatime
 0 0


 /boot/grub/grub.conf

 default 0
 timeout 30
 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

 title=Gentoo Linux on RAID
 root (hd0,1)
 kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/ataraid/disc0/part2


 Hope it helps, lemme now if it worked for you

 RNuno

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Junho de 2003 18:57
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID  Gentoo


 On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 06:54:36PM +0100, MooktaKiNG wrote:

 OK. this is the most frustrating thing i've ever had with Gentoo.

 I can boot with the liveCD. I can load the produles, ataraid and
 pdcraid. it does work. I install successfully. Then i install
 Grub.
 I follow the howto and do root=/dev/ataraid/d0p1
 My /boot is a seperate partition in hda1.

 But it just doesn't boot.

 I gave up using grub for this, and used (groan) lilo.  My
 /etc/fstab
 looks like this:

 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part1/boot   ext2
 noauto,noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3/   ext3 noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part2noneswap sw
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part5/usr ext3noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part6/var ext3noatime
 1 2
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part7/usr/local ext3noatime
   1
 2
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part8/opt ext3noatime
 1 2
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part9/home ext3noatime
  1 2

 And my /etc/lilo.conf looks like this:

 menu-scheme=Wb
 prompt
 timeout = 50
 lba32
 boot=/dev/ataraid/disc0/disc
 disk = /dev/ataraid/disc0/disc
 bios = 0x80

 map = /boot/System.map
 delay = 50
 vga = normal# Normal VGA console
 # End LILO global section
 # Linux bootable partition config begins
 image = /boot/vmlinuz
 root = /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3
 append = idebus=66, ide0=ata66
 label = Gentoo
 read-only # read-only for checking

  image = /boot/vmlinuz.old
  root = /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3
  label = Old.kernel
  read-only # read-only for checking

 I hope this helps.  If you find a way to make grub work, please
 let
 me
 know, as I would much prefer to be using grub.

 Cheers,
 Dennis
 --
 Dennis Soper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Network Supervisor
 Facilities Services-- The University of Oregon
 1276 University of Oregonphone:  541-346-2286
 Eugene, OR  97403fax:541-346-2299

 Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding
 of
 the
 leaders.  

[gentoo-user] emerge -pv world fails on mod_php

2003-06-06 Thread douggorley
Just did an emerge sync, and now emerge -pv world gives me the following:

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies \
!!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =dev-libs/libxslt-1.0.30 have been masked.
!!!(dependency required by dev-php/mod_php-4.3.2 [ebuild])

!!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.

Anyone else have this problem?

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-06 Thread brett holcomb
What kind of license is it???

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 18:00:49 +0100
 Andy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 11:45:21AM +0200, Frank Tegtmeyer 
wrote:
The discussion Postfix vs. qmail nearly always comes 
down to the point
where someone says that either the qmail license or 
Bernstein
sucks. But personal feelings or FUD feeded knowledge are 
not the base
to choose an MTA.
Although, it is not wrong to reject qmail on 
philosophical grounds.  A
serious Free software person might wish to do that, but I 
do see
this done a lot and then passed off as a technical 
failing.

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[gentoo-user] Cursor :(

2003-06-06 Thread MIKE MacMartin
I just upgraded to xfree-4.3.0-r2, and my redglass cursors are gone!  I can't 
even install another theme, such as tuxcursors 
(http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=5359 ).

I've got a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/defaults/index.theme that has an 
inherits=tuxcursor there, but no go.  I've tried the tuxcursors in 
tuxcursor/cursors and tuxcursor, neither of which work.

Also, redglass and whiteglass seem to have disappeared on me.

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[gentoo-user] Riva TNT GL

2003-06-06 Thread Alexander Netopier Leonov
Hello
A try runnig some games (quake3...) but this games need GL driver for 
xfree...
Can you forward me to some documentation (how install GL...)?
Thanks a lot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cursor :(

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 I've got a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/defaults/index.theme that has an 
 inherits=tuxcursor there, but no go.  I've tried the tuxcursors in 
 tuxcursor/cursors and tuxcursor, neither of which work.
 
 Also, redglass and whiteglass seem to have disappeared on me.

You've tried editing your ~/.Xdefaults and added these lines?:
# Begin .Xdefaults
Xcursor.size: 24 # Edit to your preference.
Xcursor.theme: whiteglass # Or redglass if that's what you want.
# End .Xdefaults

These work for me, and without editing any global config-files.

Patrick Börjesson

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cursor :(

2003-06-06 Thread MIKE MacMartin
 You've tried editing your ~/.Xdefaults and added these lines?:
 # Begin .Xdefaults
 Xcursor.size: 24 # Edit to your preference.
 Xcursor.theme: whiteglass # Or redglass if that's what you want.
 # End .Xdefaults

I've got Xcursor.theme: tuxcursor here ... like I said, the 
whiteglass/redglass cursorthemes don't exist anymore on this system.

 These work for me, and without editing any global config-files.

I want to subject _everyone_ to animated Tux cursors ;) ... actually, I just 
want to make it go.

 Patrick Börjesson
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RE: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID Gentoo

2003-06-06 Thread MooktaKiNG
I would like to ask one thing tho.

You have part1 as /boot and part2 as root.

But i have hda1 as /boot and part1 as root.

Where do you install grub?
is it hda's mbr?
or disc0's mbr?

if it is disc0 then how to you choose that disc?
did you choose in your BIOS to boot that disc first?


 Re-check your kernel config, and change ur grub.conf
 to your root partion: /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3 not part1
 acording to your fstab

 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part1/boot   ext2
 noauto,noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3/   ext3 noatime
 1 1


 RNuno



 -Original Message-
 From: MooktaKiNG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Junho de 2003 21:17
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID  Gentoo


 Well it loads the kernel and then at the end it says there's no
 ataraid/disc0/part1 and i should append it.

 But i'll try reinstalling again tonight.

 Well my system is working :)

 cat /proc/pci

 .

 Bus  0, device   9, function  0:
 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20268R (rev 2).
   IRQ 5.
   Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=4.Max Lat=18.
   I/O at 0xa400 [0xa407].
   I/O at 0xa800 [0xa803].
   I/O at 0xac00 [0xac07].
   I/O at 0xb000 [0xb003].
   I/O at 0xb400 [0xb40f].
   Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf600 [0xf600].

 Anyway i have 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel and i compiled
 with this options:

 ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support  ---
   * ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support
   IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices  ---
 [*] PROMISE PDC202{46|62|65|67|68|69|70} support
 [*]   Special UDMA Feature
 [*]   Special FastTrak Feature
 * Support for IDE Raid controllers (EXPERIMENTAL)
 *Support Promise software RAID (Fasttrak(tm))
 (EXPERIMENTAL)

 So basicly i access my drives like if i used modeprobe pdcraid
 on /dev/ataraid/disc0 (for the first array) ..disc1 for the second
 array.

 What is the error that you are getting ?

 regards,
 RNuno



 -Original Message-
 From: MooktaKiNG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Junho de 2003 20:51
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID  Gentoo


 Ricardo:

 I don't understand how you got it working with
 root=/dev/ataraid/disc0/part2

 i thought grub excepts d0p2. weird.

 Did you do anything special with the kernel?

 Are any options you need to compile in. I mean i think i compiled
 the correct modules but, who knows.

 The weirdest thing is different people says different things.

 hi,

 I have a PROMISE controler also and i got it to work with grub.
 here is my config.

 /etc/fstab

 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part1/boot   ext3
 noauto,noatime  1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part2/   ext3
 noatime
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3/usrext3
 noatime
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part5/home   ext3
 noatime
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part6 none   swap
 sw
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part7/str0   ext3
 noatime
 0 0


 /boot/grub/grub.conf

 default 0
 timeout 30
 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

 title=Gentoo Linux on RAID
 root (hd0,1)
 kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/ataraid/disc0/part2


 Hope it helps, lemme now if it worked for you

 RNuno

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Junho de 2003 18:57
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Promise RAID  Gentoo


 On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 06:54:36PM +0100, MooktaKiNG wrote:

 OK. this is the most frustrating thing i've ever had with
 Gentoo.

 I can boot with the liveCD. I can load the produles, ataraid and
 pdcraid. it does work. I install successfully. Then i install
 Grub.
 I follow the howto and do root=/dev/ataraid/d0p1
 My /boot is a seperate partition in hda1.

 But it just doesn't boot.

 I gave up using grub for this, and used (groan) lilo.  My
 /etc/fstab
 looks like this:

 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part1/boot   ext2
 noauto,noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part3/   ext3 noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part2noneswap sw
 0 0
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part5/usr ext3noatime
 1 1
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part6/var ext3noatime
 1 2
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part7/usr/local ext3
 noatime
   1
 2
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part8/opt ext3noatime
 1 2
 /dev/ataraid/disc0/part9/home ext3noatime
  1 2

 And my /etc/lilo.conf looks like this:

 menu-scheme=Wb
 prompt
 timeout = 50
 lba32
 boot=/dev/ataraid/disc0/disc
 disk = /dev/ataraid/disc0/disc
 bios = 0x80

 map = /boot/System.map
 delay = 50
 vga = normal# Normal VGA console
 # End LILO global section
 # Linux bootable partition config begins
 image = /boot/vmlinuz
 root = 

Re: [gentoo-user] Cursor :(

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 I've got Xcursor.theme: tuxcursor here ... like I said, the 
 whiteglass/redglass cursorthemes don't exist anymore on this system.

You know that the cursors changed location at some version-change in
xfree? Currently they reside in /usr/share/cursors/xfree/

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[gentoo-user] Root user password problems

2003-06-06 Thread Paulo J. Matos
Hi all,

I have Gentoo Linux installed in my PC and today I did as usually su -
root to change to root. I entered the password for root, and emerged
dhcp. After that I exited root and since then I was enable to enter as
root. It's just not accepting my password, which is extremely odd. I've
tried a hundred times already and I know the correct password, I'm
surely not wrong and caps lock is just ok.

Any ideas on how to solve this issue?

Best regards,

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RE: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Knecht
 
  Rats!  This reminded me that I had the same problem at some point
  because of multiple controllers.  I changed /dev/hda? to /dev/hde?
  and things went just fine.  I think that it was loading the controller
  card before the on-board controller.  Could this be a possibility?
  
  -rex
  
 
 I don't think it could be in my case, I don't have any extra
 controllers. I do have USB and 1394, but no devices plugged in. I wonder
 if they could cause a problem?

Too bad. In my case there is an extra on-board EIDE controller. I have 
the chipset one and the ATA-100 Promise controller. My issue was
caused (in some way I never determined) by this option about
booting from chipsets vs. other controllers first, just like Rex.
The Redhat kernel correctly handled my hardware while the kernel.org 
kernel did not.

Well, I'm tapped out, but I'll keep thinking.

Good luck.


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[gentoo-user] Totem

2003-06-06 Thread Tim Oestreich
I got a couple of questions about Totem. I have it and
xine installed. Xine can play DVD's and audio CD's.
When I try to play them in Totem I get this error.

Totem could not play 'file:///home/tim/cda%3a/1'
Reason: Generic Error

Now on the net it can play the stuff from
www.shoutcast.com but when it tries to play real audio
or  ms video it will just sit there. Is there a plugin
I need to get them to work? I have RealPlayer 8 and
Mplayer and mplayer plugin installed. 

 I like the idea of Totem if it would work or is it
still in early development?

Tim O.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Cursor :(

2003-06-06 Thread MIKE MacMartin
On June 5, 2003 04:01 pm, Patrick Börjesson wrote:
  I've got Xcursor.theme: tuxcursor here ... like I said, the
  whiteglass/redglass cursorthemes don't exist anymore on this system.

 You know that the cursors changed location at some version-change in
 xfree? Currently they reside in /usr/share/cursors/xfree/

Thanks!

 Patrick Börjesson
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[gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Börjesson
In the sendmail init script's depend() it says need net but there's no
init script in /etc/init.d/ that provides net. Should it be that way?

Patrick Börjesson

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Re: [gentoo-user] Root user password problems

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 I have Gentoo Linux installed in my PC and today I did as usually su -
 root to change to root. I entered the password for root, and emerged
 dhcp. After that I exited root and since then I was enable to enter as
 root. It's just not accepting my password, which is extremely odd.
 I've tried a hundred times already and I know the correct password,
 I'm surely not wrong and caps lock is just ok.
 
 Any ideas on how to solve this issue?

This should work:
1. Boot up from Live-cd
2. Mount and cdroot to your root-partition
3. Change passwd for root
4. Unmount and reboot

If this doesn't work something is seriously wrong.

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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Florian Huber
Hello Patrick,

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:04:43 +0200
Patrick Börjesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the sendmail init script's depend() it says need net but
 there's no init script in /etc/init.d/ that provides net. Should it
 be that way?

There is: /etc/init.d/net.eth0
(or maybe even .eth1 if you have several NICs)

Do this:
rc-update add net.eth0 default

and everything should work fine.

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world fails on mod_php

2003-06-06 Thread Florian Huber
Hello Doug,

i have the same problem.
PHP 4.3.2 is recommended by php.net since there are several bugs in
4.3.1. So i guess that the the developers rashly put the 4.3.2 ebuild
in the stable tree. But the ebuild has still dependencies which are
from the unstable tree, e.g. libxslt, cracklib, etc.

Hope this will be fixed soon (if i am not wrong)

Florian Huber

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 Calculating dependencies \
 !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =dev-libs/libxslt-1.0.30 have
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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 There is: /etc/init.d/net.eth0
 (or maybe even .eth1 if you have several NICs)
 
 Do this:
 rc-update add net.eth0 default

Those scripts does _not_ provide net (not mine anyway). The line
provide net should be present in depend() in those scripts if it did,
which it isn't. I'm almost 100% sure I've always updated those script
when etc-update asked me to as I don't manually edit
/etc/init.d/net.ethX, only /etc/conf.d/net. Could you check yours just
to be sure?

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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Florian Huber
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:22:33 +0200
Patrick Börjesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Those scripts does _not_ provide net (not mine anyway). The line
 provide net should be present in depend() in those scripts if it
 did, which it isn't. I'm almost 100% sure I've always updated those
 script when etc-update asked me to as I don't manually edit
 /etc/init.d/net.ethX, only /etc/conf.d/net. Could you check yours
 just to be sure?

AFAIS net is not provided explicitly, but is handled in the
runlevel.sh.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world fails on mod_php

2003-06-06 Thread Robin H . Johnson
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 10:21:13PM +0200, Florian Huber wrote:
 i have the same problem.
 PHP 4.3.2 is recommended by php.net since there are several bugs in
 4.3.1. So i guess that the the developers rashly put the 4.3.2 ebuild
 in the stable tree. But the ebuild has still dependencies which are
 from the unstable tree, e.g. libxslt, cracklib, etc.
 Hope this will be fixed soon (if i am not wrong)
It is fixed now (both libxslt and cracklib), and should be in the rsync
tree in ~10 minutes or so. Somebody else went and pushed it into stable
because of an upcoming GLSA, without checking on it first.
I've pushed both libxslt and cracklib into stable as well on x86 for it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:22:33 +0200 Patrick Börjesson wrote:

  There is: /etc/init.d/net.eth0
  (or maybe even .eth1 if you have several NICs)
  
  Do this:
  rc-update add net.eth0 default
 
 Those scripts does _not_ provide net (not mine anyway). The line
 provide net should be present in depend() in those scripts if it
 did, which it isn't. I'm almost 100% sure I've always updated those
 script when etc-update asked me to as I don't manually edit
 /etc/init.d/net.ethX, only /etc/conf.d/net. Could you check yours just
 to be sure?

They do provide net, it's not coded in the scripts but in
/sbin/runscript.sh IIRC. I think it is this way because multiple scripts
cannot provide the same dependency at the same time (e.g. multiple cron
or syslog daemons) but it's absolutely ok to have more than one NIC up.

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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 AFAIS net is not provided explicitly, but is handled in the
 runlevel.sh.

Then something is seriously at false somewhere as both my NICs are
initialized and added to runlevel default. Anyone got an idea of what?

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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 AFAIS net is not provided explicitly, but is handled in the
 runlevel.sh.

Then something is seriously at false somewhere as both my NICs are
initialized and added to runlevel default. Anyone got an idea of what?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Riva TNT GL

2003-06-06 Thread brett holcomb
Go to the Nvidia Web site and check the README for the 
Nvidia drivers.  In Gentoo you emerge nvidia-glx.

On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:50:49 +0200
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A try runnig some games (quake3...) but this games need 
GL driver for xfree...
Can you forward me to some documentation (how install 
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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread brett holcomb
Did you go to /etc/conf.d and edit the net script, then do 
rc-update add net.eth0 default?

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:22:33 +0200
 Patrick Börjesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is: /etc/init.d/net.eth0
(or maybe even .eth1 if you have several NICs)
Do this:
rc-update add net.eth0 default
Those scripts does _not_ provide net (not mine anyway). 
The line
provide net should be present in depend() in those 
scripts if it did,
which it isn't. I'm almost 100% sure I've always updated 
those script
when etc-update asked me to as I don't manually edit
/etc/init.d/net.ethX, only /etc/conf.d/net. Could you 
check yours just
to be sure?

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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread brett holcomb
They are supposed to be there so the addressing, gateway, 
etc. gets setup.

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:33:46 +0200
 Patrick Börjesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AFAIS net is not provided explicitly, but is handled 
in the
runlevel.sh.
Then something is seriously at false somewhere as both my 
NICs are
initialized and added to runlevel default. Anyone got an 
idea of what?

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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 They do provide net, it's not coded in the scripts but in
 /sbin/runscript.sh IIRC. I think it is this way because multiple
 scripts cannot provide the same dependency at the same time (e.g.
 multiple cron or syslog daemons) but it's absolutely ok to have more
 than one NIC up.

Thanks for the clarification =)
But the original problem still remains. Got any clues on why it says the
following as while trying to start sendmail through /etc/init.d/sendmail
# /etc/init.d/sendmail start
 * Could not get dependency info for sendmail!
 * Could not get dependency info for sendmail!
 * Starting sendmail...   [ ok ]

The only dependencies sendmail has (according to its depend()) is logger
and net. As I have both metalog and my NICs started I have problem
understanding the warnings, and I _hate_ warnings!

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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 Did you go to /etc/conf.d and edit the net script, then do 
 rc-update add net.eth0 default?

I don't have a problem with my NICs, but with sendmails init script
which says that it can't find info on its dependencies.

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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:45:46 +0200 Patrick Börjesson wrote:

 But the original problem still remains. Got any clues on why it says
 the following as while trying to start sendmail through
 /etc/init.d/sendmail# /etc/init.d/sendmail start
  * Could not get dependency info for sendmail!
  * Could not get dependency info for sendmail!
  * Starting sendmail...   [ ok
  ]

Seems that not the dependencies but something in the sendmail script is
broken. If I understand this message right runscript.sh (that is the
interpreter for most/all initscripts) cannot retrieve the dependency
information from the sendmail script (I can be wrong of course).
It says that sendmail is started, but you report it as a problem, so I
take it that sendmail is not started? Or is your only problem the Could
not get dependency info message? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Chris Bare
 IIRC the /proc/config exist on the livecd
 

Thanks for all the suggestions, I finally got it to work. I took your
advice and did:

cat /proc/config  /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config
chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
source /etc/profile
cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig
make dep  make clean bzImage modules modules_install
cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot

It seems like the config you booted off with is likely to be a better
one than the default, so this is probably a safe step for any install.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Root user password problems

2003-06-06 Thread Mike Arrison
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Paulo,
I had this problem too.  It came from not being careful enough with
the etc-update procedure after upgrading dhcp.  I believe that one
of the versions of dhcp overwrites the /etc/passwd and|or /etc/group
files.  This is _very_ bad.  Either, your root user got blown away,
or, more likely, you got kicked out of the wheel group in the
/etc/group file.  If you have a backup of /etc/group and /etc/passwd
I'd recommend finding the effected lines.

-Mike Arrison


On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:02:11PM +0100, Paulo J. Matos wrote:
 Hi all,
=20
 I have Gentoo Linux installed in my PC and today I did as usually su -
 root to change to root. I entered the password for root, and emerged
 dhcp. After that I exited root and since then I was enable to enter as
 root. It's just not accepting my password, which is extremely odd. I've
 tried a hundred times already and I know the correct password, I'm
 surely not wrong and caps lock is just ok.
=20
 Any ideas on how to solve this issue?
=20
 Best regards,
=20
 Paulo J Matos
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Re: [gentoo-user] Riva TNT GL

2003-06-06 Thread mushis
Alexander,

Try emerge nvidia-glx
 
but first make sure that you have enabled MTTR support in your kernel,
rebuilt it and then rebooted.

There is a very good explanation of how to get the accelerated drivers for
nvidia working in the Desktio Configuration Guide which is on the gentoo
documentation home page.

Enjoy, I managed to get QuakeIII running on my dual pentium II 550, with a
Riva TNT and it is pretty impresssive under OpenGL, better than OpenGl in
windoze and that;s the truth!

Simon

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Alexander Netopier Leonov wrote:

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 A try runnig some games (quake3...) but this games need GL driver for 
 xfree...
 Can you forward me to some documentation (how install GL...)?
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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 Seems that not the dependencies but something in the sendmail script
 is broken. If I understand this message right runscript.sh (that is
 the interpreter for most/all initscripts) cannot retrieve the
 dependency information from the sendmail script (I can be wrong of
 course). It says that sendmail is started, but you report it as a
 problem, so I take it that sendmail is not started? Or is your only
 problem the Could not get dependency info message? 

The latter. Sendmail is started and running, but I can't just sit and
silently accept that something is broken somewhere... I'll attach the
sendmail init script and see if you can make sense of it...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which java-sdk?

2003-06-06 Thread Ing. Bernardo Lopez O.
Its a kind of chat server (not ircd... but kind of) its for a server whit 
1.4ghz 256ram

On Thursday 05 June 2003 15:35, Gwendolyn van der Linden wrote:
  Which java sdk should i use?

 What do you want to use it for?

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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Thursday 05 June 2003 02:56 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote:
 On Thursday 05 Jun 2003 19:40, Mark Knecht wrote:
  It's a total guess as I've seen something similar to this on
  Redhat, although not with ext2 partitions. Is the 03:03 part a
  clue? Is that saying something like it's looking for /dev/hdd? I
  might have expected it to say 00:03.

 Sorry Mark, 03:03 _is_ /dev/hda3

 $ ll /dev/hda3
 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   33 2003-06-05 13:41 /dev/hda3
 - ide/host0/bus0/

 $ ll /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3
 brw---1 root root   3,   3 1970-01-01 01:00
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3

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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:17:59 +0200 Patrick Börjesson wrote:

  Seems that not the dependencies but something in the sendmail script
  is broken. If I understand this message right runscript.sh (that is
  the interpreter for most/all initscripts) cannot retrieve the
  dependency information from the sendmail script (I can be wrong of
  course). It says that sendmail is started, but you report it as a
  problem, so I take it that sendmail is not started? Or is your only
  problem the Could not get dependency info message? 
 
 The latter. Sendmail is started and running, but I can't just sit and
 silently accept that something is broken somewhere... I'll attach the
 sendmail init script and see if you can make sense of it...

Hmm, looks ok. I deleted the actual sendmail lines and tested it here,
works for me without that message. Might be some other component,
baselayout, rc-scripts or likewise, no real idea here. Try asking in IRC
or the forums, maybe a dev sees it there. As a last resort you can file
a bug on bugzilla.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-06 Thread Chris Bare
 Look back at his fstab. He has his partitions listed as hd1, hd3 etc. 
 shouldn't it read hda1,hda3 etc?

Yes, someone caught that earlier, but the kernel wasn't even getting
that far. I'd left out something that needed to be linked in statically.
I started over with /proc/config from the liveCD and that fixed it, so I
never figured out exactly what I'd missed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Root user password problems

2003-06-06 Thread Eric Marchionni
hi

i think you should report this to the gentoo bugs team.
otherwise more people will also experience this problem...
regards,
eric
Mike Arrison wrote:
Paulo,
I had this problem too.  It came from not being careful enough with
the etc-update procedure after upgrading dhcp.  I believe that one
of the versions of dhcp overwrites the /etc/passwd and|or /etc/group
files.  This is _very_ bad.  Either, your root user got blown away,
or, more likely, you got kicked out of the wheel group in the
/etc/group file.  If you have a backup of /etc/group and /etc/passwd
I'd recommend finding the effected lines.
-Mike Arrison

On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:02:11PM +0100, Paulo J. Matos wrote:

Hi all,

I have Gentoo Linux installed in my PC and today I did as usually su -
root to change to root. I entered the password for root, and emerged
dhcp. After that I exited root and since then I was enable to enter as
root. It's just not accepting my password, which is extremely odd. I've
tried a hundred times already and I know the correct password, I'm
surely not wrong and caps lock is just ok.
Any ideas on how to solve this issue?

Best regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Root user password problems

2003-06-06 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
I had this problem a while back. It was that I was removed from teh wheel 
group. I could log on to root in a console, but not su. Try it. 

HTH
Mike


On Thursday 05 June 2003 06:14 pm, Eric Marchionni wrote:
 hi

 i think you should report this to the gentoo bugs team.
 otherwise more people will also experience this problem...

 regards,
 eric

 Mike Arrison wrote:
  Paulo,
  I had this problem too.  It came from not being careful enough with
  the etc-update procedure after upgrading dhcp.  I believe that one
  of the versions of dhcp overwrites the /etc/passwd and|or /etc/group
  files.  This is _very_ bad.  Either, your root user got blown away,
  or, more likely, you got kicked out of the wheel group in the
  /etc/group file.  If you have a backup of /etc/group and /etc/passwd
  I'd recommend finding the effected lines.
 
  -Mike Arrison
 
  On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:02:11PM +0100, Paulo J. Matos wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have Gentoo Linux installed in my PC and today I did as usually su -
 root to change to root. I entered the password for root, and emerged
 dhcp. After that I exited root and since then I was enable to enter as
 root. It's just not accepting my password, which is extremely odd. I've
 tried a hundred times already and I know the correct password, I'm
 surely not wrong and caps lock is just ok.
 
 Any ideas on how to solve this issue?
 
 Best regards,
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] No init-script that provides net?

2003-06-06 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 Hmm, looks ok. I deleted the actual sendmail lines and tested it here,
 works for me without that message. Might be some other component,
 baselayout, rc-scripts or likewise, no real idea here. Try asking in
 IRC or the forums, maybe a dev sees it there. As a last resort you can
 file a bug on bugzilla.

Hmm... something was apparently wrong with something in baselayout. I
reemerged it and now everything is dandy =)
Thanks everybody for the suggestions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-06 Thread Steven Knight
On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 09:40, Ryan wrote: 
 I've been using bogofilter (http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/) with
 procmail with great success. A few false negatives now and then but I
 haven't seen a false positive yet. The only thing I don't like about the
 setup is that I have to go to a commandline to mark the spam that slipped
 through bogofilter as spam. I wish that I could just throw something in a
 cron job that every couple hours it would re-compute its wordlists based
 on the contents of my spam folders and my other folders. Does anyone have
 a script that does this? I hear that spamprobe
 (http://spamprobe.sourceforge.net/) (not used it yet) has this capability
 built-in. Maybe I'll try switching to see how it works.


I've been using spamprobe for months now.  It is wonderful.  Move spam
to spam mbox and spamprobe does the rest.  You can find an ebuild here:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19192

Once installed, I use the following cron entries:

spamprobe good /home/skk/mail/inbox
spamprobe spam /home/skk/mail/spam

and the procmail entry:

:0
SCORE=| /usr/bin/spamprobe receive
:0 wf
| formail -I X-SpamProbe: $SCORE
:0 a:
*^X-SpamProbe: SPAM
spam

I'm using mbox, I have not used this is with maildir, or other mail
storage methods.

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Re: [gentoo-user] X 4.3 DRM new issue

2003-06-06 Thread MIKE MacMartin
 KDM and GDM both display the system freeze issue, but using startx from the
 prompt does not.

Upgrading to xfree-4.3.0-r2 fixed this ... either that, or the kernel for 
2.4.20-r5 is more stable than r2.  Either way, problem's gone.  I think I'll 
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[gentoo-user] OT: mbox vs maildir

2003-06-06 Thread Anthony Floyd
With all the discussion of mail handling recently, it's perked my interest in trying 
to revive the mail system on my test machine, which I've borked pretty royally.  One 
thing I've never had a good handle on is mbox vs maildir.  I sort-of know the 
differences between the two, but have no idea about the advantages/disadvantages of 
either of them.

So.  I know it's not Gentoo related, but perhaps some of the gurus here can point me 
to some of TFMs so I can read up and learn a bit more.  In particular, I'm interested 
in the pros  cons of mbox vs maildir.

TIA,
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: mbox vs maildir

2003-06-06 Thread Jonathan Nichols
Anthony Floyd wrote:
With all the discussion of mail handling recently, it's perked my
interest in trying to revive the mail system on my test machine,
which I've borked pretty royally.  One thing I've never had a good
handle on is mbox vs maildir.  I sort-of know the differences between
the two, but have no idea about the advantages/disadvantages of
either of them.
mbox = big fat flat file
Pro:Can be easy to administer  move mailboxes if needed
Con:Unfortunately easy to corrupt mail file
maildir = each message is an individual file
Pro:More efficient  less likely to hose big mail file
Con:Lots of files
I think that's a fairly rough list.. ;) We use Postfix/Courier-Imap here 
with maildir. It's been working a LOT better than the old 
Postfix/UW-Imap setup, that's for sure.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-06 Thread Chris I
On 2003.06.05 09:31, Larry Wright wrote:
I am currently running qmail + fetchmail + procmail + spamassassin.
Everything
works pretty well, but I'm a little dissapointed in spamassassin's
accuracy.
I'd ideally like something similar to spambayes, which is trainable.
Unfortunately spambayes does not appear to work with maildir. I'd
really like
to keep qmail, does anyone know of a bayesian filter that works with
qmail/maildir?
Just to tag a me too on here.

I'm using Spam Assassin and rarely get any spam in my inbox. I am very 
impressed with this product.

As for maildir support, they way I set up SA with procmail negates SA's 
need to even touch maildirs. I'd assume a similar setup is possible for 
any spam filter.

-Chris I

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Re: [gentoo-user] Root user password problems

2003-06-06 Thread David
Right, that is usually what happens. Logout as user and back in as root.
Then set the permissions backup again.

On Thursday 05 June 2003 05:25 pm, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 I had this problem a while back. It was that I was removed from teh wheel
 group. I could log on to root in a console, but not su. Try it.

 HTH
 Mike

 On Thursday 05 June 2003 06:14 pm, Eric Marchionni wrote:
  hi
 
  i think you should report this to the gentoo bugs team.
  otherwise more people will also experience this problem...
 
  regards,
  eric
 
  Mike Arrison wrote:
   Paulo,
   I had this problem too.  It came from not being careful enough with
   the etc-update procedure after upgrading dhcp.  I believe that one
   of the versions of dhcp overwrites the /etc/passwd and|or
   /etc/group files.  This is _very_ bad.  Either, your root user got
   blown away, or, more likely, you got kicked out of the wheel group in
   the /etc/group file.  If you have a backup of /etc/group and
   /etc/passwd I'd recommend finding the effected lines.
  
   -Mike Arrison
  
   On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:02:11PM +0100, Paulo J. Matos wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I have Gentoo Linux installed in my PC and today I did as usually su -
  root to change to root. I entered the password for root, and emerged
  dhcp. After that I exited root and since then I was enable to enter as
  root. It's just not accepting my password, which is extremely odd. I've
  tried a hundred times already and I know the correct password, I'm
  surely not wrong and caps lock is just ok.
  
  Any ideas on how to solve this issue?
  
  Best regards,
  
  Paulo J Matos
  
  
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[gentoo-user] changing emerge download site

2003-06-06 Thread Seo Boon, NG
Hi,

whenever I emerge any ports, the sources get downloaded from
gentoo.oregonstate.edu. This mirror site is painfully slow from my side of the
network.  Wonder is there a configuration file that I could change to point to a
faster download site? Thanks in advance.

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Re: [gentoo-user] pkg's safe for removing ?

2003-06-06 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 10:23:15 -0400
brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can remove anything from the distfiles directory.  It 
 will just download them again.  You could check the world 
 file or use qpkg -I to list the installed files or epm (I 
 think that's the utility) as in epm -qa.
 
 On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:16:54 +0300
   raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi,
 
 how can I get the list of the packages and their sources 
 (/usr/portage/distfiles) that are safe for removing.

This comes up every few weeks.  What am I missing here?

 I've never found anything except the kernel sources an the xfree
sources that are ever referenced again.  99% of the packages are
discrete installs rather than a base packages with patches.  I regularly
wipe/usr/portage/distfiles and /var/tmp/portage without any dire
consequences.  I almost never see anything reloaded that I wiped
out.  Since I have cable that's not a problem, but how often does one
update the kernel or xfree sources anyway?

It would seem that the developers should put a proper rationale for what
to do in the gentoo documentation, and then we could close this out
permanently.

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