Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup

2003-11-04 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 10:03, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 As for Xinerama, can any recommend a good doc on setting it up? Thanks.

The canonical reference is:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with qmail an vpopmail...

2003-11-04 Thread Johannes Findeisen
okay, it was a late yesterday so i couldn't provide more information...

here is my /service/qmail-smtpd/run script:

#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u vpopmail`
NOFILESGID=`id -g vpopmail`
exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 800 \
/usr/bin/tcpserver -H -R -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \
-u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \
`hostname --fqdn` /var/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /bin/true 21

could someone tell me whats wrong here? the authentification works now but the 
server said that the password is wrong... but i'ts the right one...

regards
hanez

On Tuesday 04 November 2003 00:45, Johannes Findeisen wrote:
 hello all,

 can some please send me the /service/qmail-smtpd/run file? it must be
 configured for use with vpopmail... i' sitting here since some hours now
 and don't know what i'm doing wrong. i want to use smtp after pop or smtp
 authentication and i have destroyed my run file... i have read all
 documentaion but arhhh, i don't find the error.

 i have set it up before but i'm missing something... :-(

 thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] /tmp not empty at boot time

2003-11-04 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
I agree with this, 
but if at boot time gentoo says clearing, i suppose it must doing
something in those two directory's, otherwise this message is completely
useless.

Patrick 

Op ma 03-11-2003, om 23:59 schreef Bryan Whitehead:
 Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
  Hi,
  
  At boot time I see a message that /tmp en /vat/tmp are being cleared,
  but I still find files from months ago in there. Is this normal?, I
  would say no, but how do i fix this?
  
  Patrick
 
 This is fine according to LSB/FHS.
 
 /var/tmp should *not* be cleared after reboot:
 http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-5.15.html
 The /var/tmp directory is made available for programs that require 
 temporary files or directories that are preserved between system 
 reboots. Therefore, data stored in /var/tmp is more persistent than data 
 in /tmp. Files and directories located in /var/tmp must not be deleted 
 when the system is booted. Although data stored in /var/tmp is typically 
 deleted in a site-specific manner, it is recommended that deletions 
 occur at a less frequent interval than /tmp. 
 
 /tmp *can* be cleared after reboot, but is not required:
 http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-3.15.html
 
 Programs must not assume that any files or directories in /tmp are 
 preserved between invocations of the program.
 Although data stored in /tmp may be deleted in a site-specific manner, 
 it is recommended that files and directories located in /tmp be deleted 
 whenever the system is booted. FHS added this recommendation on the 
 basis of historical precedent and common practice, but did not make it a 
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[gentoo-user] Simple CFLAGS test on Pentium MMX

2003-11-04 Thread Robo Cernansky

This is results of simple CFLAGS test. Maybe it will be useful for someone so
I post it here. I was wonder if results for old processors will be same as for
the fast ones so I made this simple test.
You can compare this test with Javier Villavicencio's
(http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/51881)).

I was compiling gnuchess (http://www.gnu.org/software/chess/chess.html) with
various CFLAGS settings. For each compiled gnuchess I ran these commands:

./gnuchess
depth 8
go
quit

and wrote down duration of go command (gnuchess prints it). Following numbers
are average values of five (or more) values.

Each test was performed two times. One in X with many processes running
(mostly sleeping). Second in console with minimum of processes and with niced
priority (nice -18) of gnuchess.

Values are in seconds. In parentheses is place (best is on 1st place, worst on
14th place). Lines marked with X are values from test in X environment and
C lines are values from console test.


Here are the results:

 1. Without optimizations
  X 22.12 (14)
  C 17.65 (14)
  [slowest of course - 14th place]

 2. Basic O2 test
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer):
  X 16.73 (8, 9)
  C 13.29 (6)
  [much better]

 3. Changed to O3
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer):
  X 17.23 (12)
  C 15.25 (13)
  [slower than O2 - same result as in Javier Villavicencio's test]

 4. Trying O3 being faster
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer
-falign-functions=4 -falign-jumps=4):
  X 16.62 (7)
  C 13.50 (7)
  [almost same as basic O2]

 5. Don't give up with O3
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer
-falign-functions=4 -falign-jumps=4
-fforce-addr):
  X 17.09 (11)
  C 14.39 (12)
  [bad results :-(]

 6. Piece of O3 in O2 (O3 implies -frename-registers)
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
-frename-registers):
  X 16.44 (4)
  C 13.19 (5)
  [pretty fast - as in Javier Villavicencio's test]

 7. Trying somethin else
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-falign-functions=4 -falign-jumps=4):
  X 16.25 (1)
  C 13.11 (3, 4)
  [bingo! first place in X environment; also close to second and first place in
   console]

 8. Combination of two previous
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
-frename-registers
-falign-functions=4 -falign-jumps=4):
  X 16.73 (8, 9)
  C 14.03 (10)
  [aargh! slow; why???]

 9. Trying -fforce-addr
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
-fforce-addr):
  X 18.33 (13)
  C 13.74 (9)
  [slower - like with O3; Javier Villavicencio's test shows same results;
   this is much slower in X (almost last place) - why?]

10. Just for a record
  (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
   -fforce-addr
   -frename-registers):
  X 17.02 (10)
  C 13.51 (8)
  [little bit faster]

11. Let's see clean O2
  (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2):
  X 16.58 (6)
  C 14.14 (11)
  [much slower in console (11th place)]

12. And clean Os
  (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -Os):
  X 16.28 (2)
  C 13.11 (3, 4)
  [great! I didn't expect this]

13. Let's play with Os
  (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -Os -fomit-frame-pointer):
  X 16.49 (5)
  C 13.03 (2)
  [hmm, strange - faster in console and slower in X]

14. Go Os Go!
  (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -Os -fomit-frame-pointer
   -falign-functions=4 -falign-jumps=4):
  X 16.31 (3)
  C 12.99 (1)
  [fastest in console! very close to first and second place in X; this is
   different result than Bill Kenworthy got
   (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/50998)]


Note that this test is specific to one task in one application. Effect can be
different for whole system (see different effects of some options when
application is running in X (system with many processes) and in console
(minimum processes)).

Machine specs:

$ uname -rmip
2.4.20-gentoo-r7 i586 Pentium MMX GenuineIntel

Kernel is compiled with preemptive multitasking.

Processor: Pentium 166 MMX, RAM: 64MB


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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge problem

2003-11-04 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 04 November 2003 04:07, Belinus wrote:
 It's working fine here. Maybe you have an rsync mirror in
 /etc/make.conf? If so, remove it - then try again. :-)

 I commented out the GENTOO_MIRRORS line and up'd the retries to 25 in
 make.conf but I still get the same error.

GENTOO_MIRRORS is where portage will download source tarballs from
SYNC is where portage will sync from (the default is just fine)

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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/make.profile is not a symlink error message

2003-11-04 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 04 November 2003 03:10, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 I am getting the following error when I run emerge:

 '/etc/make.profile is not a symlink and will probably prevent most
 merges!!!  It should point into a profile within /usr/portage/profiles/'

 I read an FAQ section in the gentoo user guide and issued the following
 command:

 ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4/ /etc/make.profile

 but it doesn't appear as though a link was make and I still get the same
 error.

 How did I mess up the command in linking these and how do I do it
 correctly.

 Thanks and looking forward to updating!

If /etc/make.profile really is a file (ls -lh /etc/make.profile), then delete 
it (rm /etc/make.profile) and redo the symlink.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting an ISO image problems

2003-11-04 Thread Matthias Witschel
If youre logged in as root try this one:

mount -oloop -tiso9660 bootcd.iso mnt/

(make shure loop-devices are activated in kernel)


 What do I have to change to get this working?
 
 $ mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 bootcd.iso mnt/
 mount: only root can do that
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Question About Iptables Script and Sound

2003-11-04 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 04 November 2003 00:58, Kathy Wills wrote:
 I have searched the forums and connot find an answer to either of my 
 questions. I will be changing from Slackware 9.1 to Gentoo 1.4 starting 
 later tonight. My computer acts as the firewall/gateway for my small 
 home network.
 
 With slackware I use a script file /etc/rc.d/rc.iptables to povide this 
 funcionality. It is based on a conf file in /etc. My first question is 
 do I place these two files in the same location in Gentoo as in 
 Slackware in order to provide the same functions?

If your rc script contains raw iptables commands, then run them and do an 
'/etc/init.d/iptables save'. This will use iptables-save to save your rules 
to IPTABLES_SAVE in /etc/conf.d/iptables.
Running '/etc/init.d/iptables start' will then use those saved rules 
('/etc/init.d/iptables stop' WILL NOT SAVE YOUR RULES).
/etc/conf.d/iptables also has a variable to enable IPv4 forwarding.

If it's an iptables-save formatted file
(
*nat
:PREROUTING
)
The just stick in place of IPTABLES_SAVE and start iptables.

 Next, I have a Soundblaster Live sound card. I plan to use alsa for 
 sound. Do I need to emerge emu10k1 along with the alsa?

Nope.
You can optionally set ALSA_CARDS=emu10k1 in /etc/make.conf so alsa-driver 
will only compile the emu10k1 driver, can save quite a bit of time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Simple CFLAGS test on Pentium MMX

2003-11-04 Thread Javier Villavicencio
Hi Robo, I'm really glad to see that someone else is with me on these kind of tests.

About your test, pretty cool, and with a real world program like a game, that's a 
benchmark, just to explain that optimizing for size is a lot faster on machines with 
slow or small cache, or with already good branch prediction (years ago, IIRC I readed 
somewhere that the pentium-mmx has good branch prediction, at least better than cyrix 
and amd at that moment).
This may be the cause of why!?s on your message :+) some optimizations mixed makes 
bigger code, and, sometimes with these mixes the compiler doesn't uses the same 
pseudo-random branch prediction on code.

Again, would be really nice to see that this kind of benchmarks would make our Gentoo 
faster than light :+)

Salu2.

Javier Villavicencio.


On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:36:30 +0100 (Central Europe Standard Time)
Robo Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 This is results of simple CFLAGS test. Maybe it will be useful for someone so
 I post it here. I was wonder if results for old processors will be same as for
 the fast ones so I made this simple test.
 You can compare this test with Javier Villavicencio's
 (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/51881)).
 
 I was compiling gnuchess (http://www.gnu.org/software/chess/chess.html) with
 various CFLAGS settings. For each compiled gnuchess I ran these commands:
 
 ./gnuchess
 depth 8
 go
 quit
 
 and wrote down duration of go command (gnuchess prints it). Following numbers
 are average values of five (or more) values.
 
 Each test was performed two times. One in X with many processes running
 (mostly sleeping). Second in console with minimum of processes and with niced
 priority (nice -18) of gnuchess.
 
 Values are in seconds. In parentheses is place (best is on 1st place, worst on
 14th place). Lines marked with X are values from test in X environment and
 C lines are values from console test.
 
 
 Here are the results:
 
  1. Without optimizations
   X 22.12 (14)
   C 17.65 (14)
   [slowest of course - 14th place]
 
  2. Basic O2 test
(-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer):
   X 16.73 (8, 9)
   C 13.29 (6)
   [much better]
 
  3. Changed to O3
(-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer):
   X 17.23 (12)
   C 15.25 (13)
   [slower than O2 - same result as in Javier Villavicencio's test]
 
  4. Trying O3 being faster
(-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer
 -falign-functions=4 -falign-jumps=4):
   X 16.62 (7)
   C 13.50 (7)
   [almost same as basic O2]
 
  5. Don't give up with O3
(-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer
 -falign-functions=4 -falign-jumps=4
 -fforce-addr):
   X 17.09 (11)
   C 14.39 (12)
   [bad results :-(]
 
  6. Piece of O3 in O2 (O3 implies -frename-registers)
(-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
 -frename-registers):
   X 16.44 (4)
   C 13.19 (5)
   [pretty fast - as in Javier Villavicencio's test]
 
  7. Trying somethin else
(-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer 
 -falign-functions=4 -falign-jumps=4):
   X 16.25 (1)
   C 13.11 (3, 4)
   [bingo! first place in X environment; also close to second and first place in
console]
 
  8. Combination of two previous
(-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
 -frename-registers
 -falign-functions=4 -falign-jumps=4):
   X 16.73 (8, 9)
   C 14.03 (10)
   [aargh! slow; why???]
 
  9. Trying -fforce-addr
(-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
 -fforce-addr):
   X 18.33 (13)
   C 13.74 (9)
   [slower - like with O3; Javier Villavicencio's test shows same results;
this is much slower in X (almost last place) - why?]
 
 10. Just for a record
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
-fforce-addr
-frename-registers):
   X 17.02 (10)
   C 13.51 (8)
   [little bit faster]
 
 11. Let's see clean O2
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -O2):
   X 16.58 (6)
   C 14.14 (11)
   [much slower in console (11th place)]
 
 12. And clean Os
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -Os):
   X 16.28 (2)
   C 13.11 (3, 4)
   [great! I didn't expect this]
 
 13. Let's play with Os
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -Os -fomit-frame-pointer):
   X 16.49 (5)
   C 13.03 (2)
   [hmm, strange - faster in console and slower in X]
 
 14. Go Os Go!
   (-mcpu=pentium-mmx -march=pentium-mmx -mmmx -Os -fomit-frame-pointer
-falign-functions=4 -falign-jumps=4):
   X 16.31 (3)
   C 12.99 (1)
   [fastest in console! very close to first and second place in X; this is
different result than Bill Kenworthy got
(see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/50998)]
 
 
 Note that this test is specific to one task in one application. Effect can be
 different for whole system (see different effects of some 

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple CFLAGS test on Pentium MMX

2003-11-04 Thread William Kenworthy
Interesting.  Most of the machines I use have around 1G ram and 2 to 4
gbytes of swap, so -Os looks like it creates a real loss on systems with
ram to spare (see http://wdk.dyndns.org/flags.png - pick -Os !), but
gains when ram is short.

Some people are saying (no figures though) that -Os helps on a desktop
system with responsiveness.

-falign-functions=4 created a slight loss , = 8 or 16 a bit more, but
=32 gained some (32 bit addressing?)

The more I test, I am coming down on the side of using some basic flags
for the system, compiling desktop stuff with -Os (if I can confirm it
does work) and then specific apps with the best flags for performance. 
Examples here are zip/gzip/bzip, mysql, gimp : basicly things that run a
lot and for a long time where long term speed is required.

One point to make about running in X and console: running an application
in an xterm, gnome-terminal, text console or frame-buffer console all
produced different results when tested.  So to be valid, you will need
to do the tests in as close to the way you intend to use the program as
possible.

The golden rule is test, test, and dont accept someone elses flags
without testing

BillK



On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 18:36, Robo Cernansky wrote:
 This is results of simple CFLAGS test. Maybe it will be useful for someone so
 I post it here. I was wonder if results for old processors will be same as for
 the fast ones so I made this simple test.
 You can compare this test with Javier Villavicencio's
 (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/51881)).
 
 I was compiling gnuchess (http://www.gnu.org/software/chess/chess.html) with
 various CFLAGS settings. For each compiled gnuchess I ran these commands:



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[gentoo-user] sed Unterminated `s' command

2003-11-04 Thread Denny Schierz

hi,

i want to install a fresh gentoo system on the pc from my boss, but it fails on
the most packages with something like that:

sed: Couldn't flush stdout: Broken pipe
config.status: creating panel/Makefile
sed: file /var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.3-r2/temp/cs4BDf2a/subs-2.sed line 7:
Unterminated `s' command

or from (-u portage/world) coreutils:

sed: file ./confstatobTiw4/subs-2.sed line 14: Unterminated `s' command
sed: couldn't write 29 items to stdout: Broken pipe
sed: Couldn't flush stdout: Broken pipe
config.status: creating tests/uniq/Makefile
sed: file ./confstatobTiw4/subs-2.sed line 14: Unterminated `s' command
sed: couldn't write 29 items to stdout: Broken pipe
sed: Couldn't flush stdout: Broken pipe
config.status: creating tests/wc/Makefile
sed: file ./confstatobTiw4/subs-2.sed line 14: Unterminated `s' command
sed: couldn't write 29 items to stdout: Broken pipe
sed: Couldn't flush stdout: Broken pipe
config.status: creating config.h
config.status: linking ./lib/ftw_.h to lib/ftw.h
config.status: executing depfiles commands
config.status: executing default-1 commands
config.status: creating po/POTFILES
config.status: creating po/Makefile
GNUmakefile:21: /Makefile.cfg: No such file or directory
GNUmakefile:22: /Makefile.maint: No such file or directory
make: *** No rule to make target `/Makefile.maint'.  Stop.

!!! ERROR: sys-apps/coreutils-5.0-r3 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 64, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)

gentoo01 root #


he started with stage 3.

any sugegstions?

cu denny


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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables

2003-11-04 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 02 November 2003 23:27, Brian Doob wrote:
   Changing that didn't seem to fix my problem.  Here's what happened:

 root # iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.1.3/16
 modprobe: Can't locate module ip_tables
 iptables v1.2.7a: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not
 exist (do you need to insmod?) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be
 upgraded.

 This is my network/netfilter configs (for ck-sources 2.4.22-ck1):

 #
 #   IP: Netfilter Configuration
 #
 CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK=m
 CONFIG_IP_NF_FTP=m
 # CONFIG_IP_NF_AMANDA is not set
 # CONFIG_IP_NF_TFTP is not set
 # CONFIG_IP_NF_IRC is not set
 # CONFIG_IP_NF_QUEUE is not set
 CONFIG_IP_NF_IPTABLES=y

 So what do I need to do to get NAT working?  Any thoughts, anyone?  Thanks.

You need way more than that.
Select 'IP tables support (required for filtering/masq/NAT)' then scroll down 
to and select the NAT option and it's options.

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[gentoo-user] Re: sed Unterminated `s' command *SOLVED*

2003-11-04 Thread Denny Schierz
hi,

the problem was in the make.conf . I wrote the gcc flags into two lines with an
\ on the break. After removing this and write the whole statement into one
line, it works.

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 config.status: creating panel/Makefile
 sed: file /var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.3-r2/temp/cs4BDf2a/subs-2.sed line 7:
 Unterminated `s' command




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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/make.profile is not a symlink error message

2003-11-04 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:56:12 +, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On Tuesday 04 November 2003 03:10, Trey Sizemore wrote:
  I am getting the following error when I run emerge:
 
  '/etc/make.profile is not a symlink and will probably prevent most
  merges!!!  It should point into a profile within /usr/portage/profiles/'
 
  I read an FAQ section in the gentoo user guide and issued the following
  command:
 
  ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4/ /etc/make.profile
 
  but it doesn't appear as though a link was make and I still get the same
  error.
 
  How did I mess up the command in linking these and how do I do it
  correctly.
 
  Thanks and looking forward to updating!
 
 If /etc/make.profile really is a file (ls -lh /etc/make.profile), then
 delete 
 it (rm /etc/make.profile) and redo the symlink.
 
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Here is the output:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] trey $ ls -lh /etc/make.profile/
total 21K
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   38 Nov  3 09:49 default-x86-1.4
- /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4/
-rw-r--r--1 root root  789 Jul 16 09:52 make.defaults
-rw-r--r--1 root root 3.5K Jul 25 21:43 packages
-rw-r--r--1 root root  485 Oct 16  2002 packages.build
-rw-r--r--1 root root 1.2K Jul 20 10:11 use.defaults
-rw-r--r--1 root root 1.6K Jul 27 10:23 virtuals

It  looks as though the directory is symlinked correctly, but I still get
the message.  Should I still delete the directory and all files in it,
then recreate a directory called /etc/make.profile symlinked to
/usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4/?

Thanks,

Trey
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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/make.profile is not a symlink error message

2003-11-04 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 04 November 2003 12:10, Trey Sizemore wrote:

 Here is the output:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] trey $ ls -lh /etc/make.profile/
 total 21K
 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   38 Nov  3 09:49 default-x86-1.4
 - /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4/

 It  looks as though the directory is symlinked correctly, but I still get
 the message.  Should I still delete the directory and all files in it,
 then recreate a directory called /etc/make.profile symlinked to
 /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4/?

Nope, it's not. /etc/make.profile/default-x86-1.4 is a symlink.
Drop the trailling / (ls -lh /etc/make.profile -- no final slash), if you 
still get a listing of files it's is a directory.
I can't remember, but doubt, if you were to rm -rf /etc/make.profile it would 
follow the symlink down and delete a small part of /usr/portage/profiles/, so 
I'd still
rm /etc/make.profile/default-x86-1.4
rm -rf /etc/make.profile
ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4 /etc/make.profile

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Re: [gentoo-user] /tmp not empty at boot time

2003-11-04 Thread Craig Carpenter
/etc/init.d/bootmisc

76  #
77  # Clean up /tmp directory
78  #
79  ebegin Cleaning /tmp directory
80  rm -f /tmp/.X*-lock /tmp/esrv* /tmp/kio*
/tmp/jpsock.* /tmp/.fam* /dev/null
81  rm -rf /tmp/.esd* /tmp/orbit-* /tmp/ssh-*
/tmp/ksocket-* /tmp/.*-unix /dev/null
82  # Make sure our X11 stuff have the correct
permissions
83  mkdir -p /tmp/.{ICE,X11}-unix /dev/null
84  chown root.root /tmp/.{ICE,X11}-unix /dev/null
85  chmod 1777 /tmp/.{ICE,X11}-unix /dev/null
86  eend 0

On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 23:26, Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
 I agree with this, 
 but if at boot time gentoo says clearing, i suppose it must doing
 something in those two directory's, otherwise this message is completely
 useless.
 
 Patrick 
 
 Op ma 03-11-2003, om 23:59 schreef Bryan Whitehead:
  Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
   Hi,
   
   At boot time I see a message that /tmp en /vat/tmp are being cleared,
   but I still find files from months ago in there. Is this normal?, I
   would say no, but how do i fix this?
   
   Patrick
  
  This is fine according to LSB/FHS.
  
  /var/tmp should *not* be cleared after reboot:
  http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-5.15.html
  The /var/tmp directory is made available for programs that require 
  temporary files or directories that are preserved between system 
  reboots. Therefore, data stored in /var/tmp is more persistent than data 
  in /tmp. Files and directories located in /var/tmp must not be deleted 
  when the system is booted. Although data stored in /var/tmp is typically 
  deleted in a site-specific manner, it is recommended that deletions 
  occur at a less frequent interval than /tmp. 
  
  /tmp *can* be cleared after reboot, but is not required:
  http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-3.15.html
  
  Programs must not assume that any files or directories in /tmp are 
  preserved between invocations of the program.
  Although data stored in /tmp may be deleted in a site-specific manner, 
  it is recommended that files and directories located in /tmp be deleted 
  whenever the system is booted. FHS added this recommendation on the 
  basis of historical precedent and common practice, but did not make it a 
  requirement because system administration is not within the scope of 
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[gentoo-user] how to build only new packages

2003-11-04 Thread Erwin Lang
Hi All!

Is is possible to build only packages which I don't already have (in the /usr/
portage/packages)?

If i execute
  emerge --buildpkg xyz-package
then it generates a package (as expected), but if I execute the same command 
again, emerge builds it again, and doesn't see that there is already a 
packaged version of this package. - that's not what I want.

my probelm: I want one pc to compile all the packages I need and use them also 
on other pc's. I'd like to update the packages once in a week. But I don't 
like to recompile all of them, but only the packages for which a new version 
is available.

Thanks for your help!
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to build only new packages

2003-11-04 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 04 November 2003 13:08, Erwin Lang wrote:
 Hi All!

 Is is possible to build only packages which I don't already have (in the
 /usr/ portage/packages)?

 If i execute
   emerge --buildpkg xyz-package
 then it generates a package (as expected), but if I execute the same
 command again, emerge builds it again, and doesn't see that there is
 already a packaged version of this package. - that's not what I want.

 my probelm: I want one pc to compile all the packages I need and use them
 also on other pc's. I'd like to update the packages once in a week. But I
 don't like to recompile all of them, but only the packages for which a new
 version is available.

emerge -k package
Remember that the PC need to have at least the same CPU.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Operating System not Found

2003-11-04 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 11:21 PM 11/3/2003, you wrote:
OK so wait - you say to NOT have /boot mounted during
normal use.  Does normal use include compiling a new
kernel?
First let me clarify that I USED to have /boot mounted all the time. When I 
tried Gentoo, the install docs suggest that it's not necessary and I 
understand that they're correct, so I figured, what's the harm ??

In other words.. do I mount /boot when I run
genkernel??  And by watching the genkernel output
doesnt it just basically DO the same things as the
old-fashioned way ?
I'm not sure what all genkernel does, but yes, it basically does 5-6 or 
more steps for you. Now, does it run mount /boot ?? I don't know. :-) The 
last two steps I do when compiling a kernel are 'mount /boot  make install'.

And /boot is in my fstab.. but either way.. does that
really matter?
It's in my /etc/fstab also, but mine has a noauto flag specified. In this 
case, it just saves you from typing mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /boot.

Just an observation.. I may be wrong.. but this is
still driving me nuts.
I see from your other post that you've solved it now too. :-)

Hall 

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to build only new packages

2003-11-04 Thread Erwin Lang
Am Dienstag, 4. November 2003 14:14 schrieb Mike Williams:
 On Tuesday 04 November 2003 13:08, Erwin Lang wrote:
  Hi All!
 
  Is is possible to build only packages which I don't already have (in the
  /usr/ portage/packages)?
 
  If i execute
emerge --buildpkg xyz-package
  then it generates a package (as expected), but if I execute the same
  command again, emerge builds it again, and doesn't see that there is
  already a packaged version of this package. - that's not what I want.
 
  my probelm: I want one pc to compile all the packages I need and use them
  also on other pc's. I'd like to update the packages once in a week. But I
  don't like to recompile all of them, but only the packages for which a
  new version is available.

 emerge -k package
 Remember that the PC need to have at least the same CPU.
with this command I can install a prebuild package on a pc. but I want to know 
how I can avoid to build the same package every week if there is no new 
version available (as I said, emerge --buildpkg builds a package regardless 
if there already exist a packaged version of this package in /usr/portage/
packages or not.). Assume a script execute once a week: `emerge --buildpkg 
apache tomcat samba ... (and other packages I need)`. So I don't have to 
build packages manually if there is a new version available. And I also 
need'n look for new versions of certain packages in portage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to build only new packages

2003-11-04 Thread Doug Weimer
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 05:38, Erwin Lang wrote:
 with this command I can install a prebuild package on a pc. but I want to know 
 how I can avoid to build the same package every week if there is no new 
 version available (as I said, emerge --buildpkg builds a package regardless 
 if there already exist a packaged version of this package in /usr/portage/
 packages or not.). Assume a script execute once a week: `emerge --buildpkg 
 apache tomcat samba ... (and other packages I need)`. So I don't have to 
 build packages manually if there is a new version available. And I also 
 need'n look for new versions of certain packages in portage.

You can use the --update option along with buildpkg. Assuming you don't
unmerge the packages after you build them, using 'emerge --update
--buildpkg packagename' will only build a new package if a new version
is available..

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to build only new packages

2003-11-04 Thread Erwin Lang
Am Dienstag, 4. November 2003 14:51 schrieb Doug Weimer:
 On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 05:38, Erwin Lang wrote:
  with this command I can install a prebuild package on a pc. but I want to
  know how I can avoid to build the same package every week if there is no
  new version available (as I said, emerge --buildpkg builds a package
  regardless if there already exist a packaged version of this package in
  /usr/portage/ packages or not.). Assume a script execute once a week:
  `emerge --buildpkg apache tomcat samba ... (and other packages I need)`.
  So I don't have to build packages manually if there is a new version
  available. And I also need'n look for new versions of certain packages in
  portage.

 You can use the --update option along with buildpkg. Assuming you don't
 unmerge the packages after you build them, using 'emerge --update
 --buildpkg packagename' will only build a new package if a new version
 is available..
But this only works if all the packages I want to keep up to date are 
installed on that one pc which builds the packages.
Erwin


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Re: [gentoo-user] Simple CFLAGS test on Pentium MMX

2003-11-04 Thread Robo Cernansky
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:36:30 +0100 (Central Europe Standard Time) Robo Cernansky 
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RC 
RC This is results of simple CFLAGS test. Maybe it will be useful for someone so
[...]
RC I was compiling gnuchess (http://www.gnu.org/software/chess/chess.html) with
RC various CFLAGS settings. For each compiled gnuchess I ran these
[...]

I forgot to tell version of gcc - it is 3.2.3.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Operating System not Found

2003-11-04 Thread William Kenworthy
I am not sure what it is about gentoo but I have lost /boot a couple of
times now when shutdown with it mounted (mounts as ext3, runs as ext2 on
boot).  Never happened on Mandrake or redhat.

After a few painful rescues, I now make /boot is unmounted when not
needed.

BillK

On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 21:31, Hall Stevenson wrote:
 At 11:21 PM 11/3/2003, you wrote:
 OK so wait - you say to NOT have /boot mounted during
 normal use.  Does normal use include compiling a new
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation w/ Wireless PCMCIA

2003-11-04 Thread Cal Evans
I've got an old Winbook Xl2 that I've been testing GLIS on for the past 
couple of weeks. (glis.sf.net) I'm using a WPC11 card in it as the 
primary NIC.  Here's what I do.

Boot with gentoo dopcmcia form a 1.4 Live CD
cd /etc/conf.d
nano -w net
Now replace every instance of eth0 with wlan0. Make sure you change and 
uncomment your gateway line if you need it and setup your IP address or 
DHCP. (I'm using DHCP) Now save (CTRL-O).

cd /etc/init.d
cp net.eth0 net.wlan0
/etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start

This works for me every time.

(BTW, if you are using GLIS, then start with step 2 since you already 
have the network started.

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Brent L Johnson wrote:
I've been searching around the web and on the forums but I
haven't found a definitive solution to my problem.
I just purchased a Linksys WPC11 ver.4 PCMCIA card.  I'm
new to the Gentoo distribution but I've got a slower
(900mhz celeron) laptop and Redhat didnt run so well.
I'm trying to install Gentoo.. but I don't really want
to do the stage3 install (this is where it doesnt compile
or optimize everything right?).  But stage1 and 2 both
require a network to be available.
If I boot the kernel with dopcmcia and I check iwconfig
and ifconfig I do not see my wireless adaptor listed.
It seems (after searching the internet, mailing lists
and forums) as though the WPC11 works with gentoo.. but
requires getting pcmcia-cs with emerge.
Doesnt emerge use the network?  I cant very well run
emerge for getting my networking modules/drivers.
Anyone have any ideas, pointers.. or know of somewhere
I could look for help with this?
Thanks so much,

- Brent

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting an ISO image problems

2003-11-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:02:41 +0100 (MET) Matthias Witschel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 If youre logged in as root try this one:
 
 mount -oloop -tiso9660 bootcd.iso mnt/
 
 (make shure loop-devices are activated in kernel)
 
 
  What do I have to change to get this working?
  
  $ mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 bootcd.iso mnt/
  mount: only root can do that
  

1. emerge sudo
2. update /etc/sudoers (allow desired users with or without password)
3. sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 bootcd.iso mnt/


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Re: [gentoo-user] Operating System not Found

2003-11-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 22:09:56 +0800 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am not sure what it is about gentoo but I have lost /boot a couple of
 times now when shutdown with it mounted (mounts as ext3, runs as ext2 on
 boot).  Never happened on Mandrake or redhat.
 
 After a few painful rescues, I now make /boot is unmounted when not
 needed.
 

Security freaks will complain, but I have been with gentoo almost since the
beginning, and I have never created a /boot partition.  I never have to remember
to mount /boot when needed.  No problems ever.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new KernelB

2003-11-04 Thread Markus Dittrich
Hi Brent,

I had to compile support for the YENTA socket into the
kernel in order to get my wirless card to work.

#
# PCMCIA/CardBus support
#
CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
CONFIG_YENTA=y
CONFIG_CARDBUS=y
# CONFIG_I82092 is not set
# CONFIG_I82365 is not set
# CONFIG_TCIC is not set
CONFIG_PCMCIA_PROBE=y

---
MARKUS

On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Brent L Johnson wrote:

 I compiled PCMCIA support into a new kernel and when I
 reboot I get no lights on my linksys wpc11 v4 wireless
 pc card.. as though PCMCIA support isnt working.

 Any ideas why this is happening?  Im recompiling
 the kernel now and specifying PCMCIA support as a module
 instead of compiled directly into the kernel.

 If I boot from the LiveCD and use the dopcmcia boot option
 the light on my Linksys WPC11 v4 comes on and it sees the card
 in the slot (not correctly of course.. since I havent gotten
 the driver working yet).

 I got my driver over to the machine without MTools though..
 I just formatted the floppy to ext2 fs on my dell poweredge
 server and just copied it to the floppy.

 The server is running Redhat.. its a shame too.. Im thinking of
 running Gentoo on that baby.. will Gentoo run on a
 2.4Ghz Xeon?

 Thanks,

 - Brent



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[gentoo-user] [solved] Re: [gentoo-user] Making .ebuild

2003-11-04 Thread raptor
thanx,
i solved the problem..
I had to set  ./configure --install-dir ${D}usr


 tring to make an .ebuild for tcng but in the make install stage I'm getting errors 
 i.e. tcng install script tries to write 
 outside the sandbox..  
 This is the problematic part of the Makefile :
 -
 install-tcc:tcc check-install-dir scripts/localize.sh
 ln -sf scripts/localize.sh .
 tar cfh - $(TCC_BINDIST) | \
   (cd $(INSTALL_DIR)  tar xf -)
 cd $(INSTALL_DIR)  ./localize.sh
 rm -f localize.sh $(INSTALL_DIR)/localize.sh
 -
 
 Is there a way to correct this... i.e. what u do when some program tries to write 
 oustside of the sandbox
 I had some other minor problems such as .ebuild not enetering the correct 
 directory.. so that I have to add
 cd ./work/tcng and so...
 
 
 -installation log
 .
 make[2]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/tcng-9f/work/tcng/tcc'
 make -C ext
 make[3]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/tcng-9f/work/tcng/tcc/ext'
 make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/tcng-9f/work/tcng/tcc/ext'
 [ -r ports.tc ] || make ports.tc
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/tcng-9f/work/tcng/tcc'
 ln -sf scripts/localize.sh .
 tar cfh - localize.sh bin/tcc bin/tcc_var2fix.pl lib/tcng/bin/tcc-module 
 lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-err lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-null lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-file 
 lib/tcng/lib/libtccext.a lib/tcng/lib/tcm_cls.c lib/tcng/lib/tcm_f.c 
 lib/tcng/include/tccext.h lib/tcng/include/echoh.h lib/tcng/include/tccmeta.h 
 lib/tcng/include/default.tc lib/tcng/include/meta.tc lib/tcng/include/fields.tc 
 lib/tcng/include/values.tc lib/tcng/include/fields4.tc lib/tcng/include/fields6.tc 
 lib/tcng/include/meters.tc lib/tcng/include/ports.tc lib/tcng/include/idiomatic.tc | 
 \
   (cd /usr/bin  tar xf -)
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/localize.sh
 tar: localize.sh: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/bin/tcc
 tar: bin/tcc: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/bin/tcc_var2fix.pl
 tar: bin/tcc_var2fix.pl: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/bin/tcc-module
 tar: lib/tcng/bin/tcc-module: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-err
 tar: lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-err: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-null
 tar: lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-null: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-file
 tar: lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-file: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/lib/libtccext.a
 tar: lib/tcng/lib/libtccext.a: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/lib/tcm_cls.c
 tar: lib/tcng/lib/tcm_cls.c: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/lib/tcm_f.c
 tar: lib/tcng/lib/tcm_f.c: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/tccext.h
 tar: lib/tcng/include/tccext.h: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/echoh.h
 tar: lib/tcng/include/echoh.h: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/tccmeta.h
 tar: lib/tcng/include/tccmeta.h: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/default.tc
 tar: lib/tcng/include/default.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/meta.tc
 tar: lib/tcng/include/meta.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/fields.tc
 tar: lib/tcng/include/fields.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/values.tc
 tar: lib/tcng/include/values.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/fields4.tc
 tar: lib/tcng/include/fields4.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/fields6.tc
 tar: lib/tcng/include/fields6.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/meters.tc
 tar: lib/tcng/include/meters.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/ports.tc
 tar: lib/tcng/include/ports.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied
 ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/idiomatic.tc
 tar: lib/tcng/include/idiomatic.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied
 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
 make[1]: *** [install-tcc] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/tcng-9f/work/tcng'
 make: *** [install] Error 1
  
 !!! ERROR: net-misc/tcng-9f failed.
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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/make.profile is not a symlink error message

2003-11-04 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 07:24, Mike Williams wrote:
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 On Tuesday 04 November 2003 12:10, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 
  Here is the output:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] trey $ ls -lh /etc/make.profile/
  total 21K
  lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   38 Nov  3 09:49 default-x86-1.4
  - /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4/
 
  It  looks as though the directory is symlinked correctly, but I still get
  the message.  Should I still delete the directory and all files in it,
  then recreate a directory called /etc/make.profile symlinked to
  /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4/?
 
 Nope, it's not. /etc/make.profile/default-x86-1.4 is a symlink.
 Drop the trailling / (ls -lh /etc/make.profile -- no final slash), if you 
 still get a listing of files it's is a directory.
 I can't remember, but doubt, if you were to rm -rf /etc/make.profile it would 
 follow the symlink down and delete a small part of /usr/portage/profiles/, so 
 I'd still
 rm /etc/make.profile/default-x86-1.4
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Re: [gentoo-user] Operating System not Found

2003-11-04 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 09:49 AM 11/4/2003, you wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 22:09:56 +0800 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I am not sure what it is about gentoo but I have lost /boot a couple of
 times now when shutdown with it mounted (mounts as ext3, runs as ext2 on
 boot).  Never happened on Mandrake or redhat.

 After a few painful rescues, I now make /boot is unmounted when not
 needed.

Security freaks will complain, but I have been with gentoo almost since the
beginning, and I have never created a /boot partition.  I never have to 
remember
to mount /boot when needed.  No problems ever.
Don't worry, many feel that you HAVE to have seperate /boot, /home, /usr, 
/var, and so on partitions

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RE: [gentoo-user] Operating System not Found

2003-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
 At 09:49 AM 11/4/2003, you wrote:
 On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 22:09:56 +0800 William Kenworthy 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
   I am not sure what it is about gentoo but I have lost 
 /boot a couple of
   times now when shutdown with it mounted (mounts as ext3, 
 runs as ext2 on
   boot).  Never happened on Mandrake or redhat.
  
   After a few painful rescues, I now make /boot is 
 unmounted when not
   needed.
  
 
 Security freaks will complain, but I have been with gentoo 
 almost since the
 beginning, and I have never created a /boot partition.  I 
 never have to 
 remember
 to mount /boot when needed.  No problems ever.
 
 Don't worry, many feel that you HAVE to have seperate /boot, 
 /home, /usr, 
 /var, and so on partitions

Thats because the theory goes, if something happens to one of your partitions, your 
not having to fix the entire drive.. Also, you can then mark usr as read only, and 
eliminate many of the root kits.

But then, I hear many times your firewall computer shouldn't run any services.. Yet I 
still have not gotten and answer on how forwarding a port to another machine 
alleviates getting hacked..

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[gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..

2003-11-04 Thread Joshua Banks
Hello,

I don't know what happened but at some point my KDE desktop completely
froze-up. Couldn't move the mouse but I could still ALT+Tab through
programs running at the bottom of the screen. Luckily I had a Console
session open and the only thing that I knew how to do was to do a
shutdown -ah now I powered back up and everything was fine.


What is the best way to get out of stuck KDE desktop session and
restart KDE when something in Gentoo freezes the desktop like that?

As well which logs would tell me possibly why this happened?

Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] Power management

2003-11-04 Thread Chase Jeffery D
Title: Power management






I need help! This is definitely a noob question but how do I change the Power management settings in gentoo 1.4? I'm running xfce4 as my desktop manager and have done a few searches in google which say that the power management settings are in /etc/X11/XF86config but I don't see them anywhere I've also tried using xset with no effect. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

 





Re: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..

2003-11-04 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 04 November 2003 15:45, Joshua Banks wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I don't know what happened but at some point my KDE desktop completely
 froze-up. Couldn't move the mouse but I could still ALT+Tab through
 programs running at the bottom of the screen. Luckily I had a Console
 session open and the only thing that I knew how to do was to do a
 shutdown -ah now I powered back up and everything was fine.
 
 
 What is the best way to get out of stuck KDE desktop session and
 restart KDE when something in Gentoo freezes the desktop like that?

I've had something similar happen to me before. It was a quite long running 
bug in CVS whereby if I hit 'v' in kmail to see the message source and closed 
the window kwin/kded would eat up all system resources.
To fix it, get a console by whatever means and kill kded and kwin, they will 
show in a ps listing as 'kdeinit: kwin' and 'kdeinit: kded'. Then, if your 
not at Konsole in the frozen session, 'export DISPLAY=:0' (or whatever X 
display the frozen kde session is on) and run 'kdeinit kded' 'kdeinit kwin' 
one will attempt to start the other I think.

 As well which logs would tell me possibly why this happened?

dmesg, or /var/log/messages *might*, but I doubt it.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..

2003-11-04 Thread Chris Carter
 What is the best way to get out of stuck KDE desktop session 
 and restart KDE when something in Gentoo freezes the desktop 
 like that?

Did you try Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?

Cheers!
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RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..

2003-11-04 Thread Joshua Banks

--- Chris Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What is the best way to get out of stuck KDE desktop session 
  and restart KDE when something in Gentoo freezes the desktop 
  like that?
 
 Did you try Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?

Thanks for the reply Mike and Chris.

To funny. As I was logged-in via dialup reading Chris's response, I hit
 Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. This brought me back to what looked like the tail
end of my bootup sequence just before KDM starts when Gentoo first
starts up, but had a text login at the very bottom of the screen. It
stayed like that for about maybe 5 seconds and then switched to the KDM
login box. When I logged back in I noticed that the modem never
disconnected but nothing was running in the bottom of the desktop. 

So I'm assuming that all of the browser sessions along with KPPP were
still running even know nothing appeared to be running visually at the
bottom of the desktop. 

This allows me to logback in again but do I need to go and kill the
prior running processes first? Sorry.. I've never done this before so
this is a little new. I guess I got my homework cut out for me today,
reading wise. Heh.. :P

Thanks,
JBanks

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RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..

2003-11-04 Thread Mark Knecht
 --- Chris Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   What is the best way to get out of stuck KDE desktop session
   and restart KDE when something in Gentoo freezes the desktop
   like that?
 
  Did you try Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?

 Thanks for the reply Mike and Chris.

 To funny. As I was logged-in via dialup reading Chris's response, I hit
  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. This brought me back to what looked like the tail
 end of my bootup sequence just before KDM starts when Gentoo first
 starts up, but had a text login at the very bottom of the screen. It
 stayed like that for about maybe 5 seconds and then switched to the KDM
 login box. When I logged back in I noticed that the modem never
 disconnected but nothing was running in the bottom of the desktop.


Josh,
   I've had this happen also. Try changing the /etc/inittab default runlevel
to 3 instead of 5. This takes you to a console when boot up instead of kdm.
You log in and type startx and you're in KDE (or whatever you are using.)

   Setup like this, when I've had to Alt-Ctl-Backspace out of X it's always
stayed at the console.

   You could also try Alt-Ctrl-F2 (or F3-F6) and go to a different console.
From their you can run top and kill some runaway process, or KDE itself if
you need to.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..

2003-11-04 Thread Chris Carter
 This allows me to logback in again but do I need to go and 
 kill the prior running processes first? Sorry.. I've never 
 done this before so this is a little new. I guess I got my 
 homework cut out for me today, reading wise. Heh.. :P

Joshua,

I'm not absolutely certain but I think KPPP is a front-end to a
background process. Hence when you exit X (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace), the PPP
backend process continues to run.

Cheers!
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RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..

2003-11-04 Thread Joel Wright
Hi

As far as I'm aware this is not true (since runlevels 3,4 and 5 are all
the same in gentoo). The only way to avoid booting into kdm is to either
change the value of DISPLAYMANAGER in /etc/rc.conf to something else
(gdm or xdm or ome of the new e managers) or to remove xdm from the
default runlevel

rc-update del xdm default

as root

changing the runlevel from 5 to 3 only stops X loading on RedHat and
RedHat derived linux distros.

Have Fun,
Joel. 

  Try changing the /etc/inittab default runlevel to 3 instead of 5. 

 This takes you to a console when boot up instead of kdm.
 You log in and type startx and you're in KDE (or whatever you are using.)
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..

2003-11-04 Thread Joshua Banks

Thanks everyone. You've all been very helpfull. Much appreciated.

I've gotten closer to figuring out what the problem is caused by I
think. I didn't even think about but I just installed a Belkin
OmniCube 2port ps/2 switch thee other day so that I could share my big
monitor between my win2k box and gentoo.

Well I just had win2k freeze completely. No recovering from that no
matter what I try. Atleast gentoo allows me to recover. So it looks as
though this probably has to do with the new switch. Yee-Haw.. using
linux is like being a super computer detective. Now I have something
new to diagnose and figure out today. Geesh...and to think the day was
going be boring. Heh.. never with linux. :D Woo-hoo

Thanks again,
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RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..

2003-11-04 Thread Mark Knecht

 Hi

 As far as I'm aware this is not true (since runlevels 3,4 and 5 are all
 the same in gentoo). The only way to avoid booting into kdm is to either
 change the value of DISPLAYMANAGER in /etc/rc.conf to something else
 (gdm or xdm or ome of the new e managers) or to remove xdm from the
 default runlevel

 rc-update del xdm default

 as root

 changing the runlevel from 5 to 3 only stops X loading on RedHat and
 RedHat derived linux distros.

 Have Fun,
 Joel.

Joel,
   You may well be right. I'm no guru about this stuff, and I don't know
much about the specifics of Gentoo runlevels. I don't emerge KDE or Gnome
under any circumstances on my machines, and I'm not even sure if I have kdm.
(Boy, I'm dumb!) ;-)

   My Gentoo machines get built with just a text type login and happily run
nothing but fluxbox for X. This strategy works for me on my Gentoo machines,
and works on my Redhat machines where 3, 4  5 are a bit different. Maybe
I'm speaking out of school here. Sorry if I've not contributed.

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[gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working with 2.6.0-test9

2003-11-04 Thread Bruce Munro
I have a problem which has been driving me nuts today. I decided to have 
a bit of fun and build/install a 2.6.0-test9 kernel on my PC, which is a 
fairly standard AMD Athlon based PC which has worked fine with SuSE 
8.[012] , and also with Gentoo 1.4 which is currently my day to day 
working distro. Had a few teething problems with the 2.6 kernel, and 
ironed most of them out, but the one I can't seem to fathom, is that the 
mouse won't work.

I've looked in the dmesg output, and there's nothing untoward there, 
looked through the kernel config lots of times and built lots of 
kernels, all to no avail. When XF86 starts the mouse won't move, even 
tried doing a:

cat  /dev/misc/psaux

while moving the mouse, and it gives nothing. My current mouse is a USB 
mouse, but connected via a PS/2 adapter, but that isn't the source of 
the problem as an ordinary Micr*s*ft PS/2 mouse doesn't work either. Did 
check the interrupts info from /proc, but that is the same on the 2.4 
and 2.6 kernels.

I feel sure I've overlooked something blindingly obvious, so hopefully 
it'll be case of just pointing me towards a simple fix. Anyhow, I'd be 
really grateful for any advice on what to check, or where to look to get 
further info towards resolving this.

Thanks in advance,
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RE: [gentoo-user] Desktop session frozen..

2003-11-04 Thread Joshua Banks

--- Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  As far as I'm aware this is not true (since runlevels 3,4 and 5 are
 all
  the same in gentoo). The only way to avoid booting into kdm is to
 either
  change the value of DISPLAYMANAGER in /etc/rc.conf to something
 else
  (gdm or xdm or ome of the new e managers) or to remove xdm from the
  default runlevel
 
  rc-update del xdm default
 
  as root
 
  changing the runlevel from 5 to 3 only stops X loading on RedHat
 and
  RedHat derived linux distros.
 
  Have Fun,
  Joel.
 
 Joel,
You may well be right. I'm no guru about this stuff, and I don't
 know
 much about the specifics of Gentoo runlevels. I don't emerge KDE or
 Gnome
 under any circumstances on my machines, and I'm not even sure if I
 have kdm.
 (Boy, I'm dumb!) ;-)
 
My Gentoo machines get built with just a text type login and
 happily run
 nothing but fluxbox for X. This strategy works for me on my Gentoo
 machines,
 and works on my Redhat machines where 3, 4  5 are a bit different.
 Maybe
 I'm speaking out of school here. Sorry if I've not contributed.

No worries Mark. I knew what your were getting at and I new it didn't
apply to my situation specifically for KDE. I run fluxbox on 2 of my
other machines. The one with the problem is the womans pc and she has
to have her nice kool gui or she's lost.

Thanks anyways,

Joshua Banks

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo binary packages

2003-11-04 Thread Redeeman
i dont know how, except for setup some ftp, and let ppl download from
there, and btw, if you do this, i would like to contribute, because i
have compiled some big things, with athlon-xp optimization, and got
everything working, many ppl have problems with that, like for
openoffice-ximian1.1 :-)

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 precompiled gentoo packages, used for easy installing/reinstalling/
 duplicating gentoo systems. It would contain precompiled gentoo 
 packages that we use, with different optimizations (architecture 
 etc...). It would be easier to install a new system, having the 
 packages already compiled and ready for merging.. 
 
 Have any of you any idea on how we could do this ? Any docs/scripts 
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[gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Collins Richey
I have finally gotten alsa to work for my SoundBlaster PCI 64 (ens1371), but
it's still a bit hokey.  I've seen a few reports but no real answers on forum. 
Maybe someone knows the answer.  Bugzilla is down, so I can't search there at
present.

1. You should be able to compile the 2.6 alsa modules as built in, but this does
not work.  The kernel reports that the soundcard is not working.

2.  Alsa compiled as modules does work with a little tinkering.

  a.  If I add alsasound to the boot level scripts as recommended, sound does
  not work.  Devfsd does not build the /dev/dsp ... entries.

  b.  If I add alsasound to the default level scripts as recommended, same
  results as for a.  A few extra dependancy complaints, since alsasound
  is design for executing at boot time.

  c.  After either of these approaches, if I issue /etc/init.d/alsasound stop
  and then /etc/init.d/alsasound start, sound works.

So, what I do for now is to add the following to /etc/conf.d/local.start

/etc/init.d/alsasound start
/etc/init.d/alsasound stop
/etc/init.d/alsasound start

Messy (lots of dependancy errors) , but it works.

Does anyone have a clue how to fix this POS?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Power management

2003-11-04 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 16:50, Chase Jeffery D wrote:
 I need help!  This is definitely a noob question but how do I change the
 Power management settings in gentoo 1.4?  I'm running xfce4 as my
 desktop manager and have done a few searches in google which say that
 the power management settings are in /etc/X11/XF86config but I don't see
 them anywhere..  I've also tried using  xset with no effect.  Any
 help would be greatly appreciated.

I assume you mean the monitor power?

then you have to set this in the Monitor section in your XF86config:
Option   DPMS

and then you can use xset to set the timeout values:
xset dpms standby suspend off

or if you use xscreensaver then you can use that to change it, 
Settings-Screensaver will launch the xscreensaver preferences panel.

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[gentoo-user] open office calc - border/grid question

2003-11-04 Thread Eric Marchionni
hi

is there a way in oocalc to get different border width to frame different
sections in the grid (like this is possible in M$ windowz)?
regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] xlib error

2003-11-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:40:04 -0500 rh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Would someone tell me what this error is and how to fix it. I get it all
 the time when i am working in a terminal under 'su -'as a regular
 account user in a terminal, never see it.
 
 
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
 xset:  unable to open display :0.0
 
 

Before issuing 'su', as your normal user, you must issue 'xhost +localhost' in
order to allow the root user to have access to the display.  This is considered
a security exposure, so as soon as you exit from the root environment, issue
'xhost -localhost'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xlib error

2003-11-04 Thread Meka[ni]
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:40:04 -0500
rh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Would someone tell me what this error is and how to fix it. I get it all
 the time when i am working in a terminal under 'su -'as a regular
 account user in a terminal, never see it.
 
 
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
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~user/.Xauthority
to ~root where user is the one running X. Another way is to allow everybody to use X 
but
I can't remember how to do it. Good luck :o)


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[gentoo-user] cannot mount DVD's

2003-11-04 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hello 

I just discovered that I can't mount DVD's with Gentoo.
I'm on Gentoo 1.4 kernel 2.4.20 (gentoo-sources-r8)
The drive is an LG IDE and works with the discs I tried under Mandrake. 
Both Mandrake and Gentoo use ide-scsi for this device.

I get the message no medium found, no matter what I do (mount with
filesytem options...)

Thanks for any help

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread brett holcomb
Do you get any error messages in any logs?

Here, alsa has worked like a champ.  I build it (and 
rebuild if I do another kernel).  After that I copy my 
saved alsa file to /etc/modules.d and do the 
modules-update.  Works fine.

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:09:38 -0700
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have finally gotten alsa to work for my SoundBlaster 
PCI 64 (ens1371), but
it's still a bit hokey.  I've seen a few reports but no 
real answers on forum. 
Maybe someone knows the answer.  Bugzilla is down, so I 
can't search there at
present.

1. You should be able to compile the 2.6 alsa modules as 
built in, but this does
not work.  The kernel reports that the soundcard is not 
working.

2.  Alsa compiled as modules does work with a little 
tinkering.

  a.  If I add alsasound to the boot level scripts as 
recommended, sound does
  not work.  Devfsd does not build the /dev/dsp ... 
entries.

  b.  If I add alsasound to the default level scripts as 
recommended, same
  results as for a.  A few extra dependancy 
complaints, since alsasound
  is design for executing at boot time.

  c.  After either of these approaches, if I issue 
/etc/init.d/alsasound stop
  and then /etc/init.d/alsasound start, sound works.

So, what I do for now is to add the following to 
/etc/conf.d/local.start

/etc/init.d/alsasound start
/etc/init.d/alsasound stop
/etc/init.d/alsasound start
Messy (lots of dependancy errors) , but it works.

Does anyone have a clue how to fix this POS?

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RE: [gentoo-user] cannot mount DVD's

2003-11-04 Thread Chris Carter
 I just discovered that I can't mount DVD's with Gentoo.
 I'm on Gentoo 1.4 kernel 2.4.20 (gentoo-sources-r8)
 The drive is an LG IDE and works with the discs I tried under 
 Mandrake. 
 Both Mandrake and Gentoo use ide-scsi for this device.
 
 I get the message no medium found, no matter what I do (mount 
 with filesytem options...)

Funny. I have the same brand DVD and same kernel. I had some problems
mounting as a normal user but not root. I had to find the right /dev and
add it to fstab, problems gone. If you've enabled ide-scsi for it, then
it should be symlinked somewhere under /dev/cdroms.

Cheers!
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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot mount DVD's

2003-11-04 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 02:11 PM 11/4/2003, you wrote:
Hello

I just discovered that I can't mount DVD's with Gentoo.
I'm on Gentoo 1.4 kernel 2.4.20 (gentoo-sources-r8)
The drive is an LG IDE and works with the discs I tried under Mandrake.
Both Mandrake and Gentoo use ide-scsi for this device.
I get the message no medium found, no matter what I do (mount with
filesytem options...)


What mount command are you using ?? The filesystem to specify should be 
ISO9660.

Something like mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/dvd, with the device and 
mount point changed to match *your* system, of course.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xlib error

2003-11-04 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 02:09 PM 11/4/2003, you wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:48:48 -0800, Collins Richey muttered:
 Before issuing 'su', as your normal user, you must issue 'xhost
 +localhost' in order to allow the root user to have access to the
 display.  This is considered a security exposure, so as soon as you exit
 from the root environment, issue 'xhost -localhost'.
NO, NO, NO.

xhost is EVIL.

Use xauth properly instead: run `xauth list' as user, run `xauth add' with
the output as root.
Agreed. People get chastised to no end on Debian-User for suggesting 
'xhost'. Sure, it's quick and easy... I've got what's supposedly the 
proper and safe way to solve this, but it's on my Debian box at home. If 
no one posts it, I can in a few hours.

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[gentoo-user] Logging alerts for multiple emerges from bash?

2003-11-04 Thread Greg Yasko
Hi all.

Some newbie questions for you Gentooers: Are alerts logged when emerging 
packages? How can I view alerts after running emerge given that I 
usually do my merging after booting into a bash console?

I've tried changing the terminal settings in Gnome to 10MB in order to 
scroll up and view alerts, but don't like to run emerge while Gnome is 
running if not absolutely necessary.

What I've been doing lately is merge from a bash console, startup Gnome, 
and view the Gentoo CVS from mozilla -- all of the alerts are 
conveniently in CVS. But there has to be a better way to view alerts on 
multiple emerges.

Thanks,

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RE: [gentoo-user] Logging alerts for multiple emerges from bash?

2003-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
This has been a issue for a long time and there is a bug in gentoo's list to do 
something about it. Your only option is to turn on portage logging and tail the end of 
all the logs you just did.. 

just depends on which idea you like better, yours or mine.. ;)

 Hi all.
 
 Some newbie questions for you Gentooers: Are alerts logged 
 when emerging 
 packages? How can I view alerts after running emerge given that I 
 usually do my merging after booting into a bash console?
 
 I've tried changing the terminal settings in Gnome to 10MB in 
 order to 
 scroll up and view alerts, but don't like to run emerge while 
 Gnome is 
 running if not absolutely necessary.
 
 What I've been doing lately is merge from a bash console, 
 startup Gnome, 
 and view the Gentoo CVS from mozilla -- all of the alerts are 
 conveniently in CVS. But there has to be a better way to view 
 alerts on 
 multiple emerges.

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RE: [gentoo-user] cannot mount DVD's

2003-11-04 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 02:12 PM 11/4/2003, you wrote:
 I just discovered that I can't mount DVD's with Gentoo.
 I'm on Gentoo 1.4 kernel 2.4.20 (gentoo-sources-r8)
 The drive is an LG IDE and works with the discs I tried under
 Mandrake.
 Both Mandrake and Gentoo use ide-scsi for this device.

 I get the message no medium found, no matter what I do (mount
 with filesytem options...)
Funny. I have the same brand DVD and same kernel. I had some problems
mounting as a normal user but not root. I had to find the right /dev and
add it to fstab, problems gone. If you've enabled ide-scsi for it, then
it should be symlinked somewhere under /dev/cdroms.
Actually, I believe /dev/cdroms is a devfs thing and if he's not using 
devfs, he should look under /dev/scdX instead. Using ide-scsi, the drive 
will appear as a SCSI device, hence the /dev/scd items.

Hall

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Re: [gentoo-user] two pcmcia network cards of the same type are not functioning!

2003-11-04 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
I do not remember it exactly, but in a past (over 4 years ago) I had the 
same
problem on red hat and probably 3c509 cards.
I had to add something like eth0=...  eth1=...
to boot command  in lilo.conf.
... you have to replace by something reasonable, what you should
find in kernel driver documentation.

The problem occured because the eth card driver is not able to recognize
more than 1 card itself, so you have to specify it explicitly.
noro

James Rey wrote:

Hi,

I've got two 3 Com 3C589 pcmcia cards that won't play
nice. Each work separately but plugging a second one
in when the system is running, which is what i need to
do, causes my /var/run/stab to look like this:
Socket 0: 3Com 589 Ethernet
0   network 3c589_cs0   eth0
Socket 1: 3Com 589 Ethernet
So it looks like cardmgr recognizes the card properly
but there is failure somewhere along the line because
it is not brought up as eth1 as it should. Perhaps
this is a feature or design issue rather than a bug? I
really don't know. Reading man pages and google didn't
help me solve this. Where should I begin? I want it to
brought up as eth1 with a manual configuration of the
IP address, netmask, etc.
Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:17:31 -0500 brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Do you get any error messages in any logs?
 
 Here, alsa has worked like a champ.  I build it (and 
 rebuild if I do another kernel).  After that I copy my 
 saved alsa file to /etc/modules.d and do the 
 modules-update.  Works fine.
 

Small note.  This is 2.6 kernel.  There is nothing to rebuild after
generating a kernel.  alsa is now a part of the kernel tree.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Operating System not Found

2003-11-04 Thread Pat Kerwan


On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:43:46AM -0600, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
 [snip]
 Thats because the theory goes, if something happens to one of your partitions, your 
 not having to fix the entire drive.. Also, you can then mark usr as read only, and 
 eliminate many of the root kits.
 
 But then, I hear many times your firewall computer shouldn't run any services.. Yet 
 I still have not gotten and answer on how forwarding a port to another machine 
 alleviates getting hacked..
 

I'm not a security guru, but I think the point is to make sure the
*firewall* isn't hacked.  An uncompromized firewall may limit what an
attacker who's compromized a server behind that firewall can do.

But a server visible to the outside world is probably not any safer
from outside attack whether it's behind a firewall or not.

But as I said, I'm not a security guru.  If I'm wrong, I'm sure
someone will point it out.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Logging alerts for multiple emerges from bash?

2003-11-04 Thread Greg Yasko
Jeffrey Smelser wrote:

This has been a issue for a long time and there is a bug in gentoo's list to do something about it. Your only option is to turn on portage logging and tail the end of all the logs you just did.. 

just depends on which idea you like better, yours or mine.. ;)


Hi all.

Some newbie questions for you Gentooers: Are alerts logged 
when emerging 
packages? How can I view alerts after running emerge given that I 
usually do my merging after booting into a bash console?

I've tried changing the terminal settings in Gnome to 10MB in 
order to 
scroll up and view alerts, but don't like to run emerge while 
Gnome is 
running if not absolutely necessary.

What I've been doing lately is merge from a bash console, 
startup Gnome, 
and view the Gentoo CVS from mozilla -- all of the alerts are 
conveniently in CVS. But there has to be a better way to view 
alerts on 
multiple emerges.


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Shame about the bug, but tailing the portage log sounds like the way to 
go. Thanks -- Gentoo CVS will get a lot less traffic from me:-O



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RE: [gentoo-user] Operating System not Found

2003-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
I am asking because I simply want to know.. I am not asking to try to be hard on 
anyone.. 

Here is my thing with that, depending on what and how your hacked, once your behind 
the firewall, you pretty much have access to everything. Very few networks I know of 
shield the internal workings from the firewall. Hell, I have seen people here admit, 
like me, once a hacker is behind the firewall, you pretty much have free access to the 
rest of the network. Obviously, since each computer in my network would need different 
ways of getting in unless they are using some kind of kernel in, there is no firewall 
either. I know for a fact people on here could ssh to another machine without a 
password.. ;) I have seen them ask how to do it.

So my question still stands.. once you have someone behind the firewall, what are you 
really going to be able to do UNLESS you firewall each computer. That becomes a 
nightmare since your having to configure firewalls every time you want to do 
something, and I know I am not the only one that doesn't want to be doing that.  

My work uses sub nets so if they got on the firewalled server, they wouldn't be able 
to get far since there are no routes past that. But I am sure no one does that at 
home. But they would get the app servers and db..

 On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:43:46AM -0600, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
  [snip]
  Thats because the theory goes, if something happens to one 
 of your partitions, your not having to fix the entire drive.. 
 Also, you can then mark usr as read only, and eliminate many 
 of the root kits.
  
  But then, I hear many times your firewall computer 
 shouldn't run any services.. Yet I still have not gotten and 
 answer on how forwarding a port to another machine alleviates 
 getting hacked..
  
 
 I'm not a security guru, but I think the point is to make sure the
 *firewall* isn't hacked.  An uncompromized firewall may limit what an
 attacker who's compromized a server behind that firewall can do.
 
 But a server visible to the outside world is probably not any safer
 from outside attack whether it's behind a firewall or not.
 
 But as I said, I'm not a security guru.  If I'm wrong, I'm sure
 someone will point it out.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Logging alerts for multiple emerges from bash?

2003-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
Well, its not a bug parse, its more of a feature request. Sorry if I mislead you..

 Shame about the bug, but tailing the portage log sounds like 
 the way to 
 go. Thanks -- Gentoo CVS will get a lot less traffic from me:-O

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[gentoo-user] Video 4 Linux in kernel?

2003-11-04 Thread Steve Withers
I'm trying to get my TV card (Avermedia Cph03x) going with Gentoo 1.4. 

I see that the support for it is in the source tree of the kernel
2.4.20-gentoo-r8.  

There is no module in the /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r8/drivers
directory. I have seen docs saying there should be a 'media' directory
there, but it isn't there on my system. 

insmod bttv doesn't work.confirming no module. 

How can I be sure I have the support actually compiled into the kernel
and then generate the appropriate module? 

I'm learning this stuff fairly rapidly, but I'm not sure what to look at
nextand the docs all assume a specific starting point - which I'm
not at - and I'm having trouble working out exactly where I am and which
way to go. 

Mythtv installed perfectly and runs great - except for the lack of a
video capture device defined on the system to point it at.  :-)  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video 4 Linux in kernel?

2003-11-04 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 04 November 2003 21:04, Steve Withers wrote:
 I'm trying to get my TV card (Avermedia Cph03x) going with Gentoo 1.4.

 I see that the support for it is in the source tree of the kernel
 2.4.20-gentoo-r8.

 There is no module in the /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r8/drivers
 directory. I have seen docs saying there should be a 'media' directory
 there, but it isn't there on my system.

 insmod bttv doesn't work.confirming no module.

 How can I be sure I have the support actually compiled into the kernel
 and then generate the appropriate module?

 I'm learning this stuff fairly rapidly, but I'm not sure what to look at
 nextand the docs all assume a specific starting point - which I'm
 not at - and I'm having trouble working out exactly where I am and which
 way to go.

 Mythtv installed perfectly and runs great - except for the lack of a
 video capture device defined on the system to point it at.  :-)

I assume you used genkernel to compile your kernel, if so simply do a 
'genkernel --config' and poke about.
The option selection is the default config, so there is no need to worry about 
sorting the rest to suit your machine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with qmail an vpopmail...

2003-11-04 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Johannes Findeisen --
 could someone tell me whats wrong here? the authentification works now
 but the server said that the password is wrong... but i'ts the right
 one...

If you have problems with auth., then best would be to check vchkpw. I had 
similar problems with vmailmgr, but then it turned out that I gave the 
wrong directory for the password checking program in my run file...

just my first thought, HTH!
Greetings, Matthias

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backyard is cruel.  Pulling his tail is cruel.  Yelling in his ears is 
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[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user-de] UUCP xinetd, keine Verbindung von draußen

2003-11-04 Thread Dennis Freise
 service uucp
 {
 socket_type = stream
 protocol = tcp
 user = uucp
 server = /usr/sbin/uucico
 server_args = -I /etc/uucp/config -l
 type = UNLISTED
 wait = no
 }

You have to add only_from = your_subnet, or you have to edit
/etc/xinetd.conf and change only_from = localhost to something less
restrictive. I would advice to add the option to the service, leaving other
services restricted to localhost.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user-de] UUCP xinetd, keine Verbindung von draußen

2003-11-04 Thread Dennis Freise
Sorry, that one should have gone gentoo-user-de, not gentoo-user :( clicked
the wrong contact... Please disregard.

  service uucp
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[gentoo-user] openssl upgrade

2003-11-04 Thread Tom Wesley
Hi all,

Just a quick warning:  I just upgraded my openssl to current and
suddenly programs wouldn't start, complaining of no libssl-0.9.6.  Just
so people know, creating a symbolic link to 0.9.7 seems a solve it, at
least so far

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RE: [gentoo-user] openssl upgrade

2003-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
Is that version masked?

btw, did you try revdep-rebuild? That's supposed to rebuild dependency packages to the 
new version.. 

 Hi all,
 
 Just a quick warning:  I just upgraded my openssl to current and
 suddenly programs wouldn't start, complaining of no 
 libssl-0.9.6.  Just
 so people know, creating a symbolic link to 0.9.7 seems a solve it, at
 least so far

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Re: [gentoo-user] openssl upgrade

2003-11-04 Thread Dennis Freise
 Just a quick warning:  I just upgraded my openssl to current and
 suddenly programs wouldn't start, complaining of no libssl-0.9.6.  Just
 so people know, creating a symbolic link to 0.9.7 seems a solve it, at
 least so far

Running 'revdep-rebuild' (part of gentoolkit) is IMHO the right way to solve
it. That rebuilds every package still in need of the old libssl-0.9.6, so
that they from now on use the new libssl-0.9.7. Creating a symbolic link
will work too, but it looks more like a hack than a solution to me :)

Greetings, Dennis


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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot mount DVD's

2003-11-04 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I think I tracked down the problem... 
It seems that my drive has intermittend problems reading DVD's, which
made me think it always failed on gentoo, and always worked on Mandrake.
A couple of minutes ago, I managed to get one disc working in Gentoo, so
I may need a new drive :-(

Thanks for your help!

Guy

On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 20:21, Hall Stevenson wrote:
 At 02:11 PM 11/4/2003, you wrote:
 Hello
 
 I just discovered that I can't mount DVD's with Gentoo.
 I'm on Gentoo 1.4 kernel 2.4.20 (gentoo-sources-r8)
 The drive is an LG IDE and works with the discs I tried under Mandrake.
 Both Mandrake and Gentoo use ide-scsi for this device.
 
 I get the message no medium found, no matter what I do (mount with
 filesytem options...)
 
 
 What mount command are you using ?? The filesystem to specify should be 
 ISO9660.
 
 Something like mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/dvd, with the device and 
 mount point changed to match *your* system, of course.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] xlib error

2003-11-04 Thread rh
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:23:11 -0500
Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 02:09 PM 11/4/2003, you wrote:
 On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:48:48 -0800, Collins Richey muttered:
   Before issuing 'su', as your normal user, you must issue 'xhost
   +localhost' in order to allow the root user to have access to the
   display.  This is considered a security exposure, so as soon as
   you exit from the root environment, issue 'xhost -localhost'.
 
 NO, NO, NO.
 
 xhost is EVIL.
 
 Use xauth properly instead: run `xauth list' as user, run `xauth add'
 with the output as root.
 
 Agreed. People get chastised to no end on Debian-User for suggesting 
 'xhost'. Sure, it's quick and easy... I've got what's supposedly the 
 proper and safe way to solve this, but it's on my Debian box at
 home. If no one posts it, I can in a few hours.
 
 
 Hall 


Thank you. I kind of thought it was going to be something like that. I
would be interested in seeing your 'proper and safe' way of correcting
it also.

I might as well as this as wellthis error only comes up when I have
xdm or gdm running as my login. If I log on without either, issue
startx, open a terminal and then 'su -', I don't get thsi error. Is that
normal as well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] openssl upgrade

2003-11-04 Thread Tom Wesley
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 21:35, Dennis Freise wrote:
  Just a quick warning:  I just upgraded my openssl to current and
  suddenly programs wouldn't start, complaining of no libssl-0.9.6.  Just
  so people know, creating a symbolic link to 0.9.7 seems a solve it, at
  least so far
 
 Running 'revdep-rebuild' (part of gentoolkit) is IMHO the right way to solve
 it. That rebuilds every package still in need of the old libssl-0.9.6, so
 that they from now on use the new libssl-0.9.7. Creating a symbolic link
 will work too, but it looks more like a hack than a solution to me :)
 
 Greetings, Dennis

Reply to both, evolution and Galeon (together with gdm?) required this,
and the rebuild didn't work, so I got bored and added a link, although I
am sure this will be fixed better within a few moments of hitting the
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RE: [gentoo-user] openssl upgrade

2003-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
 On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 21:35, Dennis Freise wrote:
   Just a quick warning:  I just upgraded my openssl to current and
   suddenly programs wouldn't start, complaining of no 
 libssl-0.9.6.  Just
   so people know, creating a symbolic link to 0.9.7 seems a 
 solve it, at
   least so far
  
  Running 'revdep-rebuild' (part of gentoolkit) is IMHO the 
 right way to solve
  it. That rebuilds every package still in need of the old 
 libssl-0.9.6, so
  that they from now on use the new libssl-0.9.7. Creating a 
 symbolic link
  will work too, but it looks more like a hack than a 
 solution to me :)
  
  Greetings, Dennis
 
 Reply to both, evolution and Galeon (together with gdm?) 
 required this,
 and the rebuild didn't work, so I got bored and added a link, 
 although I
 am sure this will be fixed better within a few moments of hitting the
 send button.

Didn't work?? Was it a compile issue or? Sounds like a bug from what your saying that 
needs to be submitted..

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RE: [gentoo-user] openssl upgrade

2003-11-04 Thread Tom Wesley
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 21:53, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
  On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 21:35, Dennis Freise wrote:
Just a quick warning:  I just upgraded my openssl to current and
suddenly programs wouldn't start, complaining of no 
  libssl-0.9.6.  Just
so people know, creating a symbolic link to 0.9.7 seems a 
  solve it, at
least so far
   
   Running 'revdep-rebuild' (part of gentoolkit) is IMHO the 
  right way to solve
   it. That rebuilds every package still in need of the old 
  libssl-0.9.6, so
   that they from now on use the new libssl-0.9.7. Creating a 
  symbolic link
   will work too, but it looks more like a hack than a 
  solution to me :)
   
   Greetings, Dennis
  
  Reply to both, evolution and Galeon (together with gdm?) 
  required this,
  and the rebuild didn't work, so I got bored and added a link, 
  although I
  am sure this will be fixed better within a few moments of hitting the
  send button.
 
 Didn't work?? Was it a compile issue or? Sounds like a bug from what your saying 
 that needs to be submitted..
 
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The compile went ok, I will hold of the bug report until morning, maybe
lunchtime tomorrow, am very tied up this end and may have missed
something.
I would appreciate anyone that remembers cc'ing me personally on a fix
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Re: [gentoo-user] Simple CFLAGS test on Pentium MMX

2003-11-04 Thread Stroller
On Nov 4, 2003, at 1:58 pm, Robo Cernansky wrote:

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:36:30 +0100 (Central Europe Standard Time) Robo 
Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RC
RC This is results of simple CFLAGS test. Maybe it will be useful for 
someone so
[...]
RC I was compiling gnuchess 
(http://www.gnu.org/software/chess/chess.html) with
RC various CFLAGS settings. For each compiled gnuchess I ran these
[...]

I forgot to tell version of gcc - it is 3.2.3.
Ah! I was just about to ask you that!!
I hope you will consider reporting the results should you change gcc 
versions. I'm given to understand this can make quite a big difference.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Simple CFLAGS test on Pentium MMX

2003-11-04 Thread Dennis Freise
  I forgot to tell version of gcc - it is 3.2.3.

 Ah! I was just about to ask you that!!
 I hope you will consider reporting the results should you change gcc
 versions. I'm given to understand this can make quite a big difference.

I've done some quick test with gcc-3.3.2 and povray 3.50.
I only did test the -O things... what I found out:

povray compiled with -O3: took ~55 secs to render picture
povray compiled with -O2: took ~50 secs to render picture
povray compiled with -Os: took ~68 secs to render picture

-frename-registers and -finline-functions both did no good, making slower
executables. However, this was really a quick test. CPU was a pentium-mmx
233 mhz with 256mb ram.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Samba encrypted passwords will not work with Gentoo

2003-11-04 Thread Alan Watson
Hi Marshall,

Thanks for your advice - just to finish the thread ..

I re-emerged Samba as you suggested with USE=-ldap emerge samba

and got the message below when the compile finished:

* GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
* IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /etc need updating.
* Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files.

I ran find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' as suggested by emerge --help config
which found a file called /etc/init.d/._cfg_winbind. I overwrote
/etc/init.d/winbind in this directory with /etc/init.d/._cfg_winbind and
everything seems to be running fine.

Thanks,

Alan

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From: Andrew Heberle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Samba encrypted passwords will not work with
Gentoo


 Alan Watson wrote:
  Hi Marshall,
 
  Thanks -- no I don't need it. So how do I turn it off..?
 
  Alan

 Samba makes use of LDAP if the ldap USE flag is set, once it is compiled
 with LDAP support you cannot turn it off without a recompile.

 So either edit make.conf and remove ldap from your USE flags, the
 re-emerge samba or re-emerge samba with the following command:

 # USE=-ldap emerge samba

 This will just disable LDAP support while building samba.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Simple CFLAGS test on Pentium MMX

2003-11-04 Thread William Kenworthy
Did you note the size of the binaries?  Something I neglected to with
the tests I did.

BillK

On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 06:34, Dennis Freise wrote:
   I forgot to tell version of gcc - it is 3.2.3.
 
  Ah! I was just about to ask you that!!
  I hope you will consider reporting the results should you change gcc
  versions. I'm given to understand this can make quite a big difference.
 
 I've done some quick test with gcc-3.3.2 and povray 3.50.
 I only did test the -O things... what I found out:
 
 povray compiled with -O3: took ~55 secs to render picture
 povray compiled with -O2: took ~50 secs to render picture
 povray compiled with -Os: took ~68 secs to render picture
 
 -frename-registers and -finline-functions both did no good, making slower
 executables. However, this was really a quick test. CPU was a pentium-mmx
 233 mhz with 256mb ram.
 
 Greetings, Dennis
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Operating System not Found

2003-11-04 Thread David Friggens
* Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-04 07:49]:
 On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 22:09:56 +0800 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  After a few painful rescues, I now make /boot is unmounted when not
  needed.

 Security freaks will complain, but I have been with gentoo almost since the
 beginning, and I have never created a /boot partition.  I never have to remember
 to mount /boot when needed.  No problems ever.

When I first installed the instructions (PPC install) said not to create
a separate /boot partition. But I wasn't planning on it anyway. I've
done the same with the x86 installs I've done since. I don't see any
point for desktop.

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[gentoo-user] Portage Tree

2003-11-04 Thread Belinus
Out of curiousity, how often does it get updated? I am seeing that at least
one of the programs I want to emerge is behind the actual site.

The specific one is nmap and gentoo.org reports it at 3.45 and its homepage
saus 3.48.

Jon


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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Ahha - I'm on 2.4.x series.  When 2.6,7, or whatever is stable then I'll go 
for that!

On Tuesday 04 November 2003 15:18, you wrote:
 On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:17:31 -0500 brett holcomb
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  Do you get any error messages in any logs?
 
  Here, alsa has worked like a champ.  I build it (and
  rebuild if I do another kernel).  After that I copy my
  saved alsa file to /etc/modules.d and do the
  modules-update.  Works fine.

 Small note.  This is 2.6 kernel.  There is nothing to rebuild after
 generating a kernel.  alsa is now a part of the kernel tree.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage Tree

2003-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I guess one answer would be whenever the developer can get to it G.  Nmap 
may have released a version but the Gentoo developer(s) who work on that have 
to make an ebuild, check it enough to make sure it's  ~arch and then release 
it.  Once that's done it's there for you.

On Tuesday 04 November 2003 17:06, you wrote:
 Out of curiousity, how often does it get updated? I am seeing that at least
 one of the programs I want to emerge is behind the actual site.

 The specific one is nmap and gentoo.org reports it at 3.45 and its homepage
 saus 3.48.

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[gentoo-user] Re: xlib error

2003-11-04 Thread Jonathan Singer
Andrew Farmer:
 Use xauth properly instead: run `xauth list' as user, run `xauth add' with
 the output as root.

This works for me, but needs to be repeated each time X restarts.

Hall Stevenson:
 I've got what's supposedly the
 proper and safe way to solve this, but it's on my Debian box at home. If
 no one posts it, I can in a few hours.

I'd very much appreciate your posting it. I've been trying to get this
working for nearly a year and while I've received many suggestions, none
have worked.

Reg Hughson:
 I might as well as this as wellthis error only comes up when I have
 xdm or gdm running as my login. If I log on without either, issue
 startx, open a terminal and then 'su -', I don't get thsi error. Is that
 normal as well.

Actually the last time I tested it, the problem only occurred with kdm. With
gdm there was no problem su'ing to root  and running X apps. If there really
is a security issue with setting things up the way every other Linux distro
I've used does things, it would seem that the gdm maintainer is (or was)
violating it as well.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xlib error

2003-11-04 Thread Hall Stevenson
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 23:22, Jonathan Singer wrote:
 Andrew Farmer:
  Use xauth properly instead: run `xauth list' as user, run `xauth add' with
  the output as root.
 
 This works for me, but needs to be repeated each time X restarts.
 
 Hall Stevenson:
  I've got what's supposedly the
  proper and safe way to solve this, but it's on my Debian box at home. If
  no one posts it, I can in a few hours.
 
 I'd very much appreciate your posting it. I've been trying to get this
 working for nearly a year and while I've received many suggestions, none
 have worked.

Here it is:

# allow root to run programs when another
# user is running X
if [ ! $USER = root ]; then
  export XAUTHORITY=/home/$USER/.Xauthority
fi

Add this to root's .bashrc file.

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[gentoo-user] no workstation OS from RedHat so more chances for Gentoo?

2003-11-04 Thread HvR




http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/33760.html seems to indicate that redhat will stop shipping a workstation OS. So probably no more up2date (the tool to update redhat Linux with the latest versions of your installed sw). Maybe they should put a link to Gentoo on heir website ;-)






[gentoo-user] wireless network issues

2003-11-04 Thread eric heller
Hi!

I recently read on slashdot about a great little program that emulates
certain windows wireless network card drivers, called driverloader (see
www.linuxant.com). I was especially glad to hear about this because it
supports my Intel Centrino PRO/Wireless mini-pci card (for which there
are currently no real linux drivers, at least not to my knowledge).

Anway, I got driverloader working, and things seem to be working on some
level. I got eth1 to run and it's even correctly connecting to my
wireless network. I disconnected by ethernet cable, stopped eth0, and
then fired up MozillaFirebird. To my delight, everything seemed to be
working great!

But then I fired up evolution, and it was unable to resolve the address
of my pop email server. I thought, what the heck? So I went to my
command line and tried to ping the address. Ping returned nothing. So I
tried www.yahoo.com. Still nothing. It seems that the only program that
can actually resolve host names is MozillaFirebird, and nothing else.

Any ideas why this may be? Is there something I need to do to get eth1
setup right? Here's what I did:

1 ln -s /etc/init.d/net.eth0 /etc/init.d/net.eth1

2 rc-update add net.eth1 default

3 edited /etc/conf.d/net to include the line:
iface_eth1=dhcp

4 /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start

And it started up with no errors.

5 /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop

But like I said, only MozillaFirebird seems to be able to establish any
kind of connection. It may likely be a problem with driverloader, and if
it is, then I'll try out their user list, but I'm still not very
familiar with gentoo, and I just wondered if there's a step I missed in
configuring eth1 to work right. Do I need to somehow tell all my
programs that they need to use eth1 instead of eth0? Any ideas?

Thanks!

Eric Heller.


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[gentoo-user] using all my 3gb of ram in the kernel -- how?

2003-11-04 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
Hi

I am basically a FreeBSD guy but need to install a Linux server for 
some special java stuff.

I installed a aa-sources kernel using  gentoo 1.4-release stage3 non 
GRP on a dual athlon 2800+ system gigabyte MB with 3gig RAM.

I would like to know what I have to do to have the kernel recognize all 
3 gig of RAM.

When I boot the kernel that was configured using genkernel --config 
and  set the user addressable RAM parameter under the CPU sectiom to 
2 GB, I get

Warning only 1920MB will be used.
Use a HIGHMEM enabled kernel.
1920MB LOWMEM available.
If I set that to 3gb, the system won't boot. I get to LILO I boot (my 
entry is called Gentoo) and it says

Gento.
and there it freezes
Please enlighten me on what I need to do to have the system use the 3gb.

Thanks
Chad
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RE: [gentoo-user] Portage Tree

2003-11-04 Thread Luke Davison
Jon,

If your feeling adventurous, there is a masked ebuild for nmap 3.48:

# emerge /usr/portage/net-analyzer/nmap/nmap-3.48.ebuild -pv

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] using all my 3gb of ram in the kernel -- how?

2003-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
There is an option in the kernel build to let it recognize that.  I've never 
used genkernel so I don't know where or if it lets you get to that.   I'd cd 
to /usr/src/linux then run make menuconfig and select the options from there. 
 Use the install instructions for a non-genkernel to build your kernel.

On Tuesday 04 November 2003 18:49, you wrote:
 Hi

 I am basically a FreeBSD guy but need to install a Linux server for
 some special java stuff.

 I installed a aa-sources kernel using  gentoo 1.4-release stage3 non
 GRP on a dual athlon 2800+ system gigabyte MB with 3gig RAM.

 I would like to know what I have to do to have the kernel recognize all
 3 gig of RAM.

 When I boot the kernel that was configured using genkernel --config
 and  set the user addressable RAM parameter under the CPU sectiom to
 2 GB, I get

 Warning only 1920MB will be used.
 Use a HIGHMEM enabled kernel.
 1920MB LOWMEM available.


 If I set that to 3gb, the system won't boot. I get to LILO I boot (my
 entry is called Gentoo) and it says


 Gento.
 and there it freezes

 Please enlighten me on what I need to do to have the system use the 3gb.

 Thanks
 Chad

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RE: [gentoo-user] no workstation OS from RedHat so more chances for Gentoo?

2003-11-04 Thread Brent L Johnson
That's one of the reasons I came over to Gentoo
and loaded it on my laptop.  Now to decide whether
I should load it on my 2.4Ghz Xeon server.

Has anyone successfully loaded Gentoo on a server
type box?  It's a Dell PowerEdge 2600 server
with 512MB ram.. not sure of the motherboard
but when I cracked it open it was some server
motherboard with PCIX slots or something.

- Brent

-Original Message-
From: HvR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] no workstation OS from RedHat so more chances for
Gentoo?


http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/33760.html seems to indicate that
redhat will stop shipping a workstation OS. So probably no more up2date
(the tool to update redhat Linux with the latest versions of your
installed sw). Maybe they should put a link to Gentoo on heir website
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RE: [gentoo-user] wireless network issues

2003-11-04 Thread Brent L Johnson
Not sure why Firebird would work and nothing else.
But do you have your DNS servers listed in
/etc/resolv.conf or are you using DHCP?

- Brent

 -Original Message-
 From: eric heller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:42 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [gentoo-user] wireless network issues
 
 
 Hi!
 
 I recently read on slashdot about a great little program that 
 emulates certain windows wireless network card drivers, 
 called driverloader (see www.linuxant.com). I was especially 
 glad to hear about this because it supports my Intel Centrino 
 PRO/Wireless mini-pci card (for which there are currently no 
 real linux drivers, at least not to my knowledge).
 
 Anway, I got driverloader working, and things seem to be 
 working on some level. I got eth1 to run and it's even 
 correctly connecting to my wireless network. I disconnected 
 by ethernet cable, stopped eth0, and then fired up 
 MozillaFirebird. To my delight, everything seemed to be working great!
 
 But then I fired up evolution, and it was unable to resolve 
 the address of my pop email server. I thought, what the heck? 
 So I went to my command line and tried to ping the address. 
 Ping returned nothing. So I tried www.yahoo.com. Still 
 nothing. It seems that the only program that can actually 
 resolve host names is MozillaFirebird, and nothing else.
 
 Any ideas why this may be? Is there something I need to do to 
 get eth1 setup right? Here's what I did:
 
 1 ln -s /etc/init.d/net.eth0 /etc/init.d/net.eth1
 
 2 rc-update add net.eth1 default
 
 3 edited /etc/conf.d/net to include the line:
 iface_eth1=dhcp
 
 4 /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start
 
 And it started up with no errors.
 
 5 /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
 
 But like I said, only MozillaFirebird seems to be able to 
 establish any kind of connection. It may likely be a problem 
 with driverloader, and if it is, then I'll try out their user 
 list, but I'm still not very familiar with gentoo, and I just 
 wondered if there's a step I missed in configuring eth1 to 
 work right. Do I need to somehow tell all my programs that 
 they need to use eth1 instead of eth0? Any ideas?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Eric Heller.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:26:18 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Ahha - I'm on 2.4.x series.  When 2.6,7, or whatever is stable then I'll go 
 for that!
 
 On Tuesday 04 November 2003 15:18, you wrote:
  On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:17:31 -0500 brett holcomb
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  wrote:
   Do you get any error messages in any logs?
  
   Here, alsa has worked like a champ.  I build it (and
   rebuild if I do another kernel).  After that I copy my
   saved alsa file to /etc/modules.d and do the
   modules-update.  Works fine.
 
  Small note.  This is 2.6 kernel.  There is nothing to rebuild after
  generating a kernel.  alsa is now a part of the kernel tree.
 

Unless you have a very unusual configuration, it's rock solid now.  I've been on
board since 2.5.x (now 2.6.0_test8) without any glitches - several months.  I'm
sure this is in part due to the fact that I use plain ole ext3 instead of the
more adventuresome filesystems grin.  Even nvidia has updated their modules. 
2.6 is a lot more stable at this point than 2.4 was in its early stages.

Getting alsa support to work for my ens1371 has been the only problem, and that
is nothing new - never worked on for me on 2.4.  Now at least I have a workable
(if clumsy) solution. Prior to this on 2.4 and 2.6 I could only get the OSS
support for ens1371 to work.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] using all my 3gb of ram in the kernel -- how?

2003-11-04 Thread Mike Williams
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 There is an option in the kernel build to let it recognize that.  I've
 never used genkernel so I don't know where or if it lets you get to that.  
 I'd cd to /usr/src/linux then run make menuconfig and select the options
 from there. Use the install instructions for a non-genkernel to build your
 kernel.

genkernel --config punts you into menuconfig.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Has Linus released it G.  I guess sometime I'll delve into but I get the 
idea it's still in development.   Right now I need to run and don't have time 
to mess with it - maybe later on.

On Tuesday 04 November 2003 19:16, you wrote:
 On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:26:18 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  Ahha - I'm on 2.4.x series.  When 2.6,7, or whatever is stable then I'll
  go for that!
   generating a kernel.  alsa is now a part of the kernel tree.

 Unless you have a very unusual configuration, it's rock solid now.  I've
 been on board since 2.5.x (now 2.6.0_test8) without any glitches - several
 months.  I'm sure this is in part due to the fact that I use plain ole ext3
 instead of the more adventuresome filesystems grin.  Even nvidia has
 updated their modules. 2.6 is a lot more stable at this point than 2.4 was
 in its early stages.

 Getting alsa support to work for my ens1371 has been the only problem, and
 that is nothing new - never worked on for me on 2.4.  Now at least I have a
 workable (if clumsy) solution. Prior to this on 2.4 and 2.6 I could only
 get the OSS support for ens1371 to work.

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Re: [gentoo-user] no workstation OS from RedHat so more chances for Gentoo?

2003-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Check the archives here.   There have been extensive discussions on the use 
of Gentoo for a server.  In short - yes it works.  RH and others distribute 
server versions but I suspect all they've done is tweaked the desktop 
version with some settings and what gets installed by default.  Any Linux 
distro should be able to run as a server (well, maybe not Lindows G).  The 
only thing is the admin has to set up what he wants - but that's good and 
what Gentoo is about.

On Tuesday 04 November 2003 19:04, you wrote:
 That's one of the reasons I came over to Gentoo
 and loaded it on my laptop.  Now to decide whether
 I should load it on my 2.4Ghz Xeon server.

 Has anyone successfully loaded Gentoo on a server
 type box?  It's a Dell PowerEdge 2600 server
 with 512MB ram.. not sure of the motherboard
 but when I cracked it open it was some server
 motherboard with PCIX slots or something.

 - Brent

 -Original Message-
 From: HvR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [gentoo-user] no workstation OS from RedHat so more chances for
 Gentoo?


 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/33760.html seems to indicate that
 redhat will stop shipping a workstation OS. So probably no more up2date
 (the tool to update redhat Linux with the latest versions of your
 installed sw). Maybe they should put a link to Gentoo on heir website
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Re: [gentoo-user] no workstation OS from RedHat so more chances for Gentoo?

2003-11-04 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Brent L Johnson wrote:
That's one of the reasons I came over to Gentoo
and loaded it on my laptop.  Now to decide whether
I should load it on my 2.4Ghz Xeon server.
Has anyone successfully loaded Gentoo on a server
type box?  It's a Dell PowerEdge 2600 server
with 512MB ram.. not sure of the motherboard
but when I cracked it open it was some server
motherboard with PCIX slots or something.
I've got Gentoo running on a dual Athlon MP 2200+ that is a medium load web/mail/mysql server.

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Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup

2003-11-04 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Andrew Cowie wrote:
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 10:03, Andrew Gaffney wrote:

As for Xinerama, can any recommend a good doc on setting it up? Thanks.


The canonical reference is:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/
That thread was a month and a half ago! Anyway, thanks for the link :)

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