[gentoo-user] vmware workstation fullscreen - xfree dga extension missing

2005-01-11 Thread J. Patrick Campbell

i'm using xorg. is there any way to enable this so i can get fullscreen in
vmware workstation?

thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Games

2005-01-11 Thread Timothy Johnson
Ut2004, Americas-army,Gameboy emunlater


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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox freezes

2005-01-11 Thread Mitko Moshev
Beber [Gentoo] wrote:

personnaly I have the same, but it freeez when I start it, waiting 30s
to 1 minutes else work fine

Maybe it's because I don't have an internet connection

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:10:43 +, neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

ZeeGeek wrote:


I've upgraded to firefox 1.0 and the strange problem came.
when I visit SOME webpages containing flash, the whole
browser freezes. For example, after www.mtv.com is fully
loaded and click BACK, firefox will freeze. Has anyone met
this problem?
  

I just tried it and it works perfectly here. shrug

Be lucky,

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I had a similar problem a while back. Try downgrading freetype to 2.1.5.
If you don't know how to do this:
1) open a root shell
2) mkdir /etc/portage (if it says the folder already exists, just 
proceed to step 3)
3) echo =media-libs/freetype-2.1.5-r1  /etc/portage/package.mask
4) emerge freetype

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Re: [gentoo-user] Games

2005-01-11 Thread Mitko Moshev
J. Patrick Campbell wrote:

like which games?

On Mon, January 10, 2005 6:54 pm, Timothy Johnson said:
  

I have emerge several games and they work, but only under the root
account. I was wondering if anyone knew what I needed to do to get other
users to be able to play. I tried adding the users to the games group
but that didnt work.


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Try adding yourself to the games group.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Games

2005-01-11 Thread J. Patrick Campbell
i play ut2004 just fine.
i'm in the games group.
what error do you get for ut2004?
when i reboot my system i have to go into /dev and change the permissions of
nvidia* to my user.
maybe this is the problem you have?


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Re: [gentoo-user] why do replies go sometimes to sender not list?

2005-01-11 Thread Tony Boom
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 02:54, Nick Smith wrote:

 is it just me or are other people going
 through this as well?

I'm new to this list so haven't replied to many but I'm not having that 
problem.

I'm using Kmail 1.7.2, I highlight the text I want to quote, press R and so 
far all replies have been addressed to the list. As this one has been. 

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[gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.10r4 and Vmware workstation.......

2005-01-11 Thread J. Patrick Campbell

When i start vmware workstation in this kernel my display gets all
corrupted in all applications. Anyone else had this problem??

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Looking for a CMS..

2005-01-11 Thread Kashani
Daniel G. Siegel wrote:
my configuration looks like this: safe_mode=off, GD2 installed
php4.3, mysql4.0. I can't use gallery.sf.net, it doesn't work on the
server. Thanks for advices.
FWIW, I managed to get Gallery working last month under Gentoo, but it 
was a bit painful.

1. Install Gallery
2. webapp-config Gallery
3. realize that Gallery doesn't like latest imagemagick after an hour of 
poking it
4. echo =media-gfx/imagemagick-6.1  /etc/portage/package.mask and 
emerge again followed by webapp-config
5. spend another hour in a silent fit of rage while it still doesn't 
work and hoping that the nice coffee girl won't call the cops
6. Realize that it's just a path problem that might have been in the 
code, caused by trying to fix the imagemagick issue, or screwing around 
with webapp
7. Move down the street a bit to find something stronger than coffee

If you don't need the latest and greatest imagemagick it should work, 
else you'll need to wait for Gallery 1.5 to be released. You can use the 
other image kit, NPM or something, but I had problems trying to get it 
configured as well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Games

2005-01-11 Thread Timothy Johnson
I did a chown to my user and it works now thanks, but you say you have
to do that everytime you reboot. I wonder if there is a way around this,
and also a way so any user can play not just the one the owns the nvidia
files


On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 03:29 -0500, J. Patrick Campbell wrote:
 i play ut2004 just fine.
 i'm in the games group.
 what error do you get for ut2004?
 when i reboot my system i have to go into /dev and change the permissions of
 nvidia* to my user.
 maybe this is the problem you have?
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10r4

2005-01-11 Thread Mitko Moshev
J. Patrick Campbell wrote:

about to install this kernel.
any gentoo udev people here noticed any issues yet?

Regards,

Patrick



  

Nope. I have been using it for a day now and everything works just fine.

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[gentoo-user] Disable Trash Can from Gnome / KDE

2005-01-11 Thread Chris Ong
Hi My Friend,
   I need to make the Gnome / KDE to delete my files without
them moving into the trash can but delete them directely
instead. I've look thru all the settings in Gnome and KDE
but there's no setting indicate this function. 

   Do I need to do anything special to get this work?
 
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[gentoo-user] xsane can't find saned server

2005-01-11 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
Hi,

I have configured a sane server (without ipv6) according to
http://penguin-breeder.org/sane/saned/ the server finds the scanner:
device `niash:libusb:001:002' is a Agfa Snapscan Touch flatbed scanner
from the client i do a telnet on 6566:
Trying 192.168.123.98...
Connected to rivendell.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
in /etc/saned.d/dll.conf the first line is net, /etc/saned.d/net.conf i
have the ip-address, so what am i missing here?

TIA
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Re: [gentoo-user] Tool to keep up the time?

2005-01-11 Thread Michele Noberasco
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:44:02 +0100
Trond Danielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't need anything fancy, I would go for openntpd. Check out
 the difference in size! Don't be fooled by the desription, it's not
 only a server

 *  net-misc/ntp
   Size of downloaded files: 2,480 kB
 *  net-misc/openntpd
   Size of downloaded files: 112 kB
Well, then use rdate, it's only a 3519 bytes download ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Disable Trash Can from Gnome / KDE

2005-01-11 Thread Luke Ravitch
On 2005-01-11 01:05, Chris Ong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need to make the Gnome / KDE to delete my files without
 them moving into the trash can but delete them directely
 instead. I've look thru all the settings in Gnome and KDE
 but there's no setting indicate this function. 

Gnome has an option to include a Delete command that bypasses Trash
on the Behavior tab in the File Management Preferences dialog.

(Applications - Desktop Preferences - File Management)

This probably isn't everything you're looking for - pressing the
delete key will still move files to the trash can - but at least you
can right-click and select Delete to accomplish what you want.

(I don't know about KDE.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] DirectFB

2005-01-11 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 01:19, darren kirby wrote:
 quoth the Etaoin Shrdlu:
  I am browsing their site, and the screenshots look quite good. Is there
  anybody using it that can give an opinion?
  What are the advantages and disadvantages compared with a traditional X
  window system (eg, Xorg)?
 
  Thanks
 
 I have used directFB on a gentoo-based utility live cd I created to make it 
 more lightweight. This allows me to use links2 on the framebuffer, including 
 colour and images. I can even watch movies with mplayer on the framebuffer.
*  dev-libs/DirectFB-extra
  Description: Extra image/video/font providers and graphics/input
drivers for DirectFB

*  dev-libs/DirectFB
  Description: Thin library on top of the Linux framebuffer devices

*  x11-base/xdirectfb
  Description: XDirectFB is a rootless XServer on top of DirectFB

Which of the above will do that? It would be cool to be able to shut off
Xorg, switch to VT1-5 and use mplayer.

Heck, if elinks works, it'll be great too.


 As far as using this on a desktop...I don't think it is really a suitable 
 replacement for an actuall WM unless we are talking about a severely RAM 
 challanged machine. 

P133 w/128MB ram.

Currently chugging _slowly_ on FC3.

Hiccups every now and then. Esp when under load.


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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10r4

2005-01-11 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 09:30, Richard C. Cox wrote:
 Is it just me, or is this beast *much* faster than 2.6.9.  My boot-time has 
 gone down by 30% to 50% just based on eyeball timing
 
 On Monday 10 January 2005 8:00 pm, Daniel Drake wrote:
  J. Patrick Campbell wrote:
   about to install this kernel.
   any gentoo udev people here noticed any issues yet?
 
  Judging from the very low number of bug reports that we've had so far about
  2.6.10 in comparison to previous kernels, I'd say this is one of the most
  stable releases in a long time.


Ever heard of the placebo effect?

Then again, I thik I'll emerge it and try itout for size.

BTW, how do I check if my system is udev?

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[gentoo-user] forced unmounting.

2005-01-11 Thread afabian
Is there a way to absolutely force an unmount?  I notice that the
umount command has an -f switch, but it doesn't seem to work.  Is it
limited to unreachable NFS file-systems?  Is there a kernel option I
need to get this switch working?

I've killed every process accessing /dvd, as reported by fuser. and yet
I can't unmount it. I don't care about stale file-handles, potential
damage to the filesystem (it is read-only), etc. I just want to be able
to eject the disk without a reboot.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Disable Trash Can from Gnome / KDE

2005-01-11 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 17:00, Chris Ong wrote:
 Hi My Friend,
Hey Another Gentoo user from My Directory.

I need to make the Gnome / KDE to delete my files without
 them moving into the trash can but delete them directely
 instead. I've look thru all the settings in Gnome and KDE
 but there's no setting indicate this function. 

In Gnome, go to applications-Desktop
Pref-file-management-behaviour-Include a delete command that bypasses
Trash

Do I need to do anything special to get this work?
  

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[gentoo-user] Artwiz font xfontsel problem

2005-01-11 Thread chun lee
Hi there:

I have just emerged the artwiz-aleczapka-en font and got a little problem.
The artwiz font is installed in /usr/share/fonts and can be read by
gnome-font-properties. However, xfontsel does not seem to recognize it.

Has anyone also had this? How can I solve it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] forced unmounting.

2005-01-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:47:25 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a way to absolutely force an unmount?  I notice that the
 umount command has an -f switch, but it doesn't seem to work.

Try umount -l


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Re: [gentoo-user] forced unmounting.

2005-01-11 Thread afabian
I have, incidentally, figured out why I couldn't unmount the drive.
It was in the NFS export list.  If I totally kill NFS, I can unmount
it.  I'm still interested to know if there's a way to really force an
unmount, though; FreeBSD's -f switch will unmount just about anything.

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[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo and rc hell?

2005-01-11 Thread Jens Stutte
Dmitry S. Makovey dmitry at athabascau.ca writes:

 
 Hi everybody,
 
 Brief:
 I've got simple question: is it possible to support multiple environment 
 configuration with gentoo like netenv in Debian?
 
 Full:
 I've got laptop which I use in several different environments: home, office, 
 presentation, server room, etc. Each requires number of configuration files 
 to be altered (xorg.conf, net, hostname, etc.) and different services to be 
 run.  Now I've read about custom run-levels for gentoo but couldn't figure 
 out how to apply it to different sets of config files. 
 
 So far I've developed set of scripts to manage environment changes by simply 
 copying files from /etc/laptop.d/env_name to /etc so everything works fine, 
 BUT when I try to use those scripts on startup I have a problem: I need to 
 run my script after local systems are mounted (I have helper scripts 
 in /usr/local/sbin so I can reconfigure laptop on-the-fly without reboot) 
 but before hostname is set up and network interfaces are brought up. Doing 
 any combination of after, before and needs in my rc-script I just can't 
 make it run when I need it to (i.e. just after localmount and before 
 hostname).
 
 Any suggestions and hints are welcome.
 

Hi,

i resolved this problem in the following way:

1) i created several entries in grub.conf for the same kernel, passing a kernel
parameter like this:
kernel (hd0,5)/boot/kernel-2.6.8.r3 root=/dev/hda6 acpi=on netlocation=home

The name of the parameter has been chosen by me.

2) i created a script that is executed during startup with the following action:
snip
#!/bin/sh
# description: copy network config file according to boot parameters

netlocation=
for copt in $( /proc/cmdline)
   do
 case ${copt%=*} in
 netlocation)
 netlocation=${copt##*=}
 ;;
 esac
   done
if [ -n ${netlocation} ]
then
cp /etc/conf.d/netlocation/${netlocation}/net /etc/conf.d/net
cp /etc/conf.d/netlocation/${netlocation}/hosts /etc/hosts
fi
exit 0
/snip

This examines the command line of the kernel for the existence of the parameter
netlocation, takes it value to construct a path and copies the files found there
in the right positions.

3) created the folders required (see the two cp statements at the end of the
script).

This can be extended to almost any config file, maybe there should be a test for
existence of each file before copying to have the choice which files will be
overwritten for each configuration.

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Re: [gentoo-user] forced unmounting.

2005-01-11 Thread Sascha Lucas
Hi
I have, incidentally, figured out why I couldn't unmount the drive.
It was in the NFS export list.  If I totally kill NFS, I can unmount
Do you really kill everithing? portmap etc...
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[gentoo-user] Netatalk no server in chooser

2005-01-11 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
Hi,

I have installed netatalk configured the conf files, etc/services and so
on. I can connect to with a MacOS 9, but only with a IP address ! There
is no Servername ore Printername in the chooser.
I'm searching Google now for about 2 hours but no solution.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.10r4 and Vmware workstation.......

2005-01-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:39:44 -0500 (EST), J. Patrick Campbell wrote:

 When i start vmware workstation in this kernel my display gets all
 corrupted in all applications. Anyone else had this problem??

It seems fine here.


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Re: [gentoo-user] forced unmounting.

2005-01-11 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 18:46, Sascha Lucas wrote:
 Hi
 
  I have, incidentally, figured out why I couldn't unmount the drive.
  It was in the NFS export list.  If I totally kill NFS, I can unmount

 Do you really kill everithing? portmap etc...


Try lazy umount. 

umount -l /dev/???

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11-6.8.1.901 Build Error ?

2005-01-11 Thread Aaron Walker
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| i've got a brand new install on a drive, did the basic stuff ( emerge
| -up world, etc. ) i've not completed the install though, and i can't
| seem to build Xorg, ( emerge gnome )
|
| Make.conf variables :
|
| AUTOCLEAN=yes
| MAKEOPTS=-j2
| ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 x86
| USE=nntp sse mmx static mysql gnome gstreamer mozilla dvdr cdr crypt
|
snip error
Search bugzilla[1] for a bug that looks like yours.  If you cannot find one,
submit a new one with your error and the output of 'emerge info'.
[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/
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[gentoo-user] Azureus broken

2005-01-11 Thread J. Patrick Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/xmms-crossfade-0.3.8 $ azureus
changeLocale: no message properties for Locale 'English (United States)'
(en_US), using 'English (default)'
java: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libswt-gnome-gtk-3106.so: undefined
symbol: gnome_vfs_init
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Re: [gentoo-user] Netatalk no server in chooser

2005-01-11 Thread spox
Mac OS 9  networking == a pain in the a** 

But it is doable. Unfortunately you didn't tell us much about your
environment. Anyway - things to look at:

1. kernel config:
   CONFIG_ATALK=m or y
   CONFIG_DEV_APPLETALK=y
2. man atalkd, man apfd, man netatalk.conf
3. http://www.anders.com/projects/netatalk/

Am Dienstag, den 11.01.2005, 11:49 +0100 schrieb Patrick Marquetecken:
 Hi,
 
 I have installed netatalk configured the conf files, etc/services and so
 on. I can connect to with a MacOS 9, but only with a IP address ! There
 is no Servername ore Printername in the chooser.
 I'm searching Google now for about 2 hours but no solution.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Netatalk no server in chooser

2005-01-11 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:40:56 +0100
spox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mac OS 9  networking == a pain in the a** 
 
 But it is doable. Unfortunately you didn't tell us much about your
 environment. Anyway - things to look at:
 
 1. kernel config:
CONFIG_ATALK=m or y
CONFIG_DEV_APPLETALK=y

Build-in or netatalk won't start
 2. man atalkd, man apfd, man netatalk.conf
yep
 3. http://www.anders.com/projects/netatalk/
been there

its working but i can't see the appletalk names in the chooser.
 

 Am Dienstag, den 11.01.2005, 11:49 +0100 schrieb Patrick Marquetecken:
  Hi,
  
  I have installed netatalk configured the conf files, etc/services
and so
  on. I can connect to with a MacOS 9, but only with a IP address !
There
  is no Servername ore Printername in the chooser.
  I'm searching Google now for about 2 hours but no solution.
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Disable Trash Can from Gnome / KDE

2005-01-11 Thread Holly Bostick
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 17:00, Chris Ong wrote:
Hi My Friend,
Hey Another Gentoo user from My Directory.
  I need to make the Gnome / KDE to delete my files without
them moving into the trash can but delete them directely
instead. I've look thru all the settings in Gnome and KDE
but there's no setting indicate this function. 
In Gnome, go to applications-Desktop
Pref-file-management-behaviour-Include a delete command that bypasses
Trash
  Do I need to do anything special to get this work?

In KDE, it's almost the same thing. In a Konqueror window, go to the 
Options or Configuration menu (I think that's what it says in 
English, my desktop is in Dutch, where it says 'Instellingen').

In the first subwindow (Behaviour) there is a checkbox for Show the 
delete option in the menu (or something along those lines. Again, my 
desktop is in Dutch, but it should be very obvious-- in fact, I think it 
says almost exactly the same thing as the GNOME setting mentioned above).

In any case, that's how you do it, and the only annoyance is that 
Delete still moves things to the Trash, and you must remember to use 
Shift+Delete to delete a file (there is no way to say make delete the 
default behaviour instead of move to the trash, like there is in 
Windows, which may be the only thing I liked about Windows config 
options ;-) ).

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Azureus broken

2005-01-11 Thread Holly Bostick
J. Patrick Campbell wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/xmms-crossfade-0.3.8 $ azureus
changeLocale: no message properties for Locale 'English (United States)'
(en_US), using 'English (default)'
java: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libswt-gnome-gtk-3106.so: undefined
symbol: gnome_vfs_init
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/xmms-crossfade-0.3.8 $

Did it work before? What's different? Do you have gnome-vfs installed 
(Azureus seems to like GNOME being around, despite being a Java app; 
probably due to the fact that the GUI is GTK2). If some parts of GNOME 
are not installed, you will get errors, I have found. Atm, I'm using 
Azureus under my temporary installation of SuSE (where I removed GNOME 
because GNOME is just insanely borked under SuSE, which likes KDE). 
Azureus (from the homepage download) still runs without GNOME, but gives 
me some error output in the console that it can't find the theme engine, 
presumably because I removed that engine with all the other half-borked 
GNOME stuff, like gconf. Under Gentoo, where I did have gnome-light 
installed, I had no problems whatsoever with Azureus.

The locale message is irrelevant (since the program does find an 
alternative), but this business

java: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libswt-gnome-gtk-3106.so: undefined
symbol: gnome_vfs_init
seems to be a problem. I'd check
gnome-vfs
libswt
java
and try to track it down-- but knowing what you did different between 
the last time it did work and now would probably help narrow the field 
some ;-) .

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Games

2005-01-11 Thread n_powell
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 users to be able to play. I tried adding the users to the games group
 but that didnt work.

Don't forget to add yorself to the video group so you can access the
nVidia driver.

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[gentoo-user] Make 2.6.10 kernel fails

2005-01-11 Thread Sarpy Sam
Trying to make the new kernel source fails with following errors. 
What am I doing wrong?

bunkhouse linux # make  make modules_install
  CHK include/linux/version.h
  SPLIT   include/linux/autoconf.h - include/config/*
make[1]: `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s' is up to date.
  CHK include/linux/compile.h
  CHK usr/initramfs_list
  /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r4/scripts/gen_initramfs_list.sh:
Cannot open 'n' (CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE)
make[1]: *** [usr/initramfs_list] Error 1
make: *** [usr] Error 2


Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10r4

2005-01-11 Thread William Kenworthy
rattus root # ps aux|grep udev
root   906  0.0  0.0  1332  360 ?Ss  05:48   0:00 udevd
root 30621  0.0  0.0  3504  492 pts/2R+   20:29   0:00 grep udev
rattus root #

Its either udev or devfsd, if neither you would have to know what you
are doing, or you have severly broken it.

BillK

On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 17:40 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 09:30, Richard C. Cox wrote:
...
 
 BTW, how do I check if my system is udev?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Make 2.6.10 kernel fails

2005-01-11 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hello,

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 05:27:35 -0700 you wrote:

 Trying to make the new kernel source fails with following errors. 
 What am I doing wrong?

   CHK usr/initramfs_list
   /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r4/scripts/gen_initramfs_list.sh:
 Cannot open 'n' (CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE)
 make[1]: *** [usr/initramfs_list] Error 1
 make: *** [usr] Error 2

Well, you probably entered n when asked for the root of the initramfs
data. Run make menuconfig and just enter an empty string  there.
It's in that section with the initrd/ramdisk settings (drivers/block
devices, AFAIK).

HWH

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Re: [gentoo-user] Make 2.6.10 kernel fails

2005-01-11 Thread Sarpy Sam
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:33:56 +0100, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 05:27:35 -0700 you wrote:
 
  Trying to make the new kernel source fails with following errors.
  What am I doing wrong?
 
CHK usr/initramfs_list
/usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r4/scripts/gen_initramfs_list.sh:
  Cannot open 'n' (CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE)
  make[1]: *** [usr/initramfs_list] Error 1
  make: *** [usr] Error 2
 
 Well, you probably entered n when asked for the root of the initramfs
 data. Run make menuconfig and just enter an empty string  there.
 It's in that section with the initrd/ramdisk settings (drivers/block
 devices, AFAIK).
 
 HWH
 
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[gentoo-user] Must I have nfs-utils? (short question)

2005-01-11 Thread =?gb18030?q?=ED|=CE=E4_=D5=C5?=
Hello. I am mounting a nfs share from a server in LAN.

Currently the mount takes very long time, about 5 minutes. Like this

#mount sappho.realss:/usr/portage /usr/portage

People suggest me 'emerge nfs-utils' and I will be able to mount imediately.
I just wonder if this is the only solution? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Newbe kernel install question...

2005-01-11 Thread Tamas Sarga

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, chun lee wrote:


 Hi there:

 For the last few days, I have managed to do a stage1 install of gentoo on a
 spare laptop (P2 300MHz) of mine. I thought I will try Gentoo to learn more
 about linux.

 I had problem with configuring the kernel compiling options with the PCMCIA
 supprt. I got the following error:

 Cardmgr[5752]: no sockets found

 While this kernel boots ok, but the PCMCIA ethernet card does not work.

 Then I thought I will build a kernel with genkernel and use its .config file
 as the basis of my next menuconfig kernel. But I could not find one after
 genkernel has built the kernel.

 So, my questions is that

 1. what is the cardmgr[5752] means?

 2. where can I find the .config if the kernel is built with genkernel?

 3. how can I check if a particular kernel has certain options compiled in?
 For example, the alsa support.

 Many thanks

 CHUN

 Ps, I now have a functional gentoo using the kernel built by genkernel.



Hi,
I don't know the answer your first and second question. At least I can
answer your third question. If you use 2.6.x kernel, then there is an
option about it. Kernel will store its own .config file and you can view
it in /proc. The exact filename escaped from my mind, but it is written
in the help of this option.
If you are interested about modules, you could use modconf. It will list
the available modules for the runnng kernel.

HTH.
Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Must I have nfs-utils? (short question)

2005-01-11 Thread Robert Svoboda
* ?|?? ?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-01-11 13:50]:
 Hello. I am mounting a nfs share from a server in LAN.
 
 Currently the mount takes very long time, about 5 minutes. Like this

I'd try emerge portmap first. (don't forget to start it then :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Disable Trash Can from Gnome / KDE

2005-01-11 Thread Charles Pittman
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:41:33 -0800, Luke Ravitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gnome has an option to include a Delete command that bypasses Trash
 on the Behavior tab in the File Management Preferences dialog.
 
 (Applications - Desktop Preferences - File Management)
 
 This probably isn't everything you're looking for - pressing the
 delete key will still move files to the trash can - but at least you
 can right-click and select Delete to accomplish what you want.

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Is it possible to link ~/.Trash (the trashcan used by Gnome, I don't
know about KDE) to /dev/null ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation fullscreen - xfree dga extension missing

2005-01-11 Thread Nick Smith
quote who=J. Patrick Campbell

 i'm using xorg. is there any way to enable this so i can get
 fullscreen in
 vmware workstation?

yes i just fixed this problem on my machine, in xorg, by default
there is a section that says omit dga, im not at my machine
right now so i cant get you the exact line, its the only one
having to do with dga though,look in another thread on here
called vmware setup, its one of the last posts, you have to
comment that section out out and it will work actually i just
removed the omit, but someone else told me to comment it out.
see what works for you.

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel-2.6.9 DVD read / CDRW errors

2005-01-11 Thread Tamas Sarga

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Tomek wrote:


 Hallo,

 With the most recent gentoo-dev-sources kernel (2.6.9=gentoo-r9),
 but also with other kernels from 2.6 branch, I have been constantly
 experinecing DVD reading, CD writteing erros. To focus only on
 DVD issue: When I try to play a media or simply copy it to hdd
 I get the following errors:
 
 end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 11059272
 Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 1382409
 hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
 hdc: command error: error=0x50
 ide: failed opcode was 100
 
 It does not happen when I read data DVDs.
 I have DMA and Use multi-mode options set.

 Any hints ?

 Thanks,
 Tomek



Hi,
I also had problems with CDRW. My user somehow *fall out* from CDROM and
CDRW group. Doublecheck that your user is in CDROM, CDRW and DVD group.
And of course don't try IDE-SCSI. It isn't recommended under 2.6.x.

HTH.
Cheers,
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RE: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10r4

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
 Nope. I have been using it for a day now and everything works just fine.

Well I sure judge stability by whether things work for a whole *day*.

I've had 2.6.10-nitro4 running for a week with no problems.  Does that make
it stable?  Probably not even close.  I'll be happy with two weeks ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox freezes

2005-01-11 Thread ZeeGeek
On 10:25 Tue 11 Jan , Mitko Moshev wrote:
 Beber [Gentoo] wrote:
 
 personnaly I have the same, but it freeez when I start it, waiting 30s
 to 1 minutes else work fine
 
 Maybe it's because I don't have an internet connection
 
 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:10:43 +, neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
 ZeeGeek wrote:
 
 
 I've upgraded to firefox 1.0 and the strange problem came.
 when I visit SOME webpages containing flash, the whole
 browser freezes. For example, after www.mtv.com is fully
 loaded and click BACK, firefox will freeze. Has anyone met
 this problem?
   
 
 I just tried it and it works perfectly here. shrug
 
 Be lucky,
 
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 I had a similar problem a while back. Try downgrading freetype to 2.1.5.
 If you don't know how to do this:
 1) open a root shell
 2) mkdir /etc/portage (if it says the folder already exists, just 
 proceed to step 3)
 3) echo =media-libs/freetype-2.1.5-r1  /etc/portage/package.mask
 4) emerge freetype
 
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 o? K? w--- O? M? V? !PS (PS(PS+)) PE Y PGP-(PGP+++) t--- 5-- X-- R tv-- b+++ 
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[gentoo-user] Virtual mail and mysql

2005-01-11 Thread Toby Batch
I'm following the virtual mail set guide on the gentoo site and all 
appears to be going ok.  i'm just having a few problem figuring out what 
should go in each of the mysql tables?

I have 5 tables:
 alias
 relocated
 transport
 users
 virtual
If I have a server called realserver.com with the users john  paul, and 
two virtual servers, virt1.com with user george and virt2.com with user 
ringo, then what goes in each table?

Assume each user has a unix log on with a home directory in /home and a 
maildir of $HOME/.maildir

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox freezes

2005-01-11 Thread Beber [Gentoo]
what is the problem with that version of freetype ?

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:25:24 +0200, Mitko Moshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Beber [Gentoo] wrote:
 
 personnaly I have the same, but it freeez when I start it, waiting 30s
 to 1 minutes else work fine
 
 Maybe it's because I don't have an internet connection
 
 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:10:43 +, neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 ZeeGeek wrote:
 
 
 I've upgraded to firefox 1.0 and the strange problem came.
 when I visit SOME webpages containing flash, the whole
 browser freezes. For example, after www.mtv.com is fully
 loaded and click BACK, firefox will freeze. Has anyone met
 this problem?
 
 
 I just tried it and it works perfectly here. shrug
 
 Be lucky,
 
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 I had a similar problem a while back. Try downgrading freetype to 2.1.5.
 If you don't know how to do this:
 1) open a root shell
 2) mkdir /etc/portage (if it says the folder already exists, just
 proceed to step 3)
 3) echo =media-libs/freetype-2.1.5-r1  /etc/portage/package.mask
 4) emerge freetype
 
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 o? K? w--- O? M? V? !PS (PS(PS+)) PE Y PGP-(PGP+++) t--- 5-- X-- R tv-- b+++ 
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Re: [gentoo-user] DirectFB

2005-01-11 Thread David Mallwitz
Ow Mun Heng wrote:

 *  dev-libs/DirectFB-extra
   Description: Extra image/video/font providers and graphics/input
 drivers for DirectFB
 
 *  dev-libs/DirectFB
   Description: Thin library on top of the Linux framebuffer devices
 
 *  x11-base/xdirectfb
   Description: XDirectFB is a rootless XServer on top of DirectFB
 
 Which of the above will do that? It would be cool to be able to shut off
 Xorg, switch to VT1-5 and use mplayer.

dev-libs/DirectFB is the only library you need for console DVD playback,
then set the directfb USE flag and emerge mplayer again. Invoke mplayer
with 'mplayer -vo directfb dvd://1' from the console.

 P133 w/128MB ram.

I don't think that's a powerful enough CPU to decode a DVD on the fly,
so you might want to purchase an MPEG-2 hardware accellerator.

Dave

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[gentoo-user] emerge openoffice results in *tiny* fonts...

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
I just emerged openoffice (that was a wonderful 24 hours waiting for the
build to complete ;-)

When I open a text document and use a font, say times 12, the display
appears to size the font at an extremely miniscule size (maybe a couple of
pixels in height, if that).

I'm thinking it might be a freetype issue (as the OO build was referring to
the FT include files without following the standard for FT2 by including the
ftbuild.h header first so I hacked my freetype.h file to include it first
rather than throwing an #error message), but don't know for sure.

Anyone have suggestions on how to fix it?

Dave



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge openoffice results in *tiny* fonts...

2005-01-11 Thread Dirk Raeder
Dave Nebinger wrote:
I just emerged openoffice (that was a wonderful 24 hours waiting for the
build to complete ;-)
When I open a text document and use a font, say times 12, the display
appears to size the font at an extremely miniscule size (maybe a couple of
pixels in height, if that).
I'm thinking it might be a freetype issue (as the OO build was referring to
the FT include files without following the standard for FT2 by including the
ftbuild.h header first so I hacked my freetype.h file to include it first
rather than throwing an #error message), but don't know for sure.
Anyone have suggestions on how to fix it?
Hi Dave,
did you check the zoom for your document? OpenOffice sometimes starts 
with a horrible zoom of say 33%, to fit a whole page on your screen. Try 
 changing the zoom to 100%.

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RE: [gentoo-user] emerge openoffice results in *tiny* fonts...

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
 Hi Dave,
 
 did you check the zoom for your document? OpenOffice sometimes starts
 with a horrible zoom of say 33%, to fit a whole page on your screen. Try
   changing the zoom to 100%.

That was the first thing I did.  Increasing the font size to 96 point and
zoom to 200% resulted in a viewable point size approximating 6 and was still
too unreadable.

Dave



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[gentoo-user] pam-login blocks shadow?

2005-01-11 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
I just build my 2004.3 system from a stage3 install and went to update 
and I am seeing the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] veldy # emerge --update --pretend world
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (from pkg sys-apps/shadow-4.0.5-r2)
What does this mean?  How do I fix it?
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[gentoo-user] can't get rw permissions on nfs mount

2005-01-11 Thread Matt Garman

I'm trying to export an NFS mount for my LAN.  Here's the relevant
line of my /etc/exports file:

/video192.168.1.1/255.255.0.0(rw,sync)

Now, when I mount this share from another PC, I can't create any new
files on it, even though mount reports the mount as being mounted
rw:

 mount
192.168.1.1:/video on /video/septictank type nfs (rw,addr=192.168.1.1)

Even as root I cannot create any files.  In fact, I can only cd one
directory below /video.  On the NFS server, I set all my directory
(and sub-directory) permissions to 777, yet that doesn't change
anything.

I have other NFS shares exported that work as I expect.  The only
that is different about this one is that it's an XFS filesystem.
Can XFS filesystems not be used with NFS?  I was under the
impression that the whole point of NFS was to be a filesystem
abstraction.  shrug

Any hints would be appreciated!

Thank you,
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Looking for a CMS..

2005-01-11 Thread Tony Bibbs
I help manage Geeklog, http://www.geeklog.net.  Geeklog has integration 
support for gallery (http://gallery.sf.net) and has nearly everything 
you want.  For example sites:

http://www.iowaoutdoors.org (mine.  runs Gentoo)
http://www.macosxhints.com
http://www.portalparts.com
If you were to use Geeklog and did and ebuild, that would be great
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[gentoo-user] WiFi success story :|

2005-01-11 Thread Schafer Frank
Hi all,

I can't nderstand why things working on LFS, Redhat 7, Aurox, Mandrake,
Slackware and Debian don't work on Gentoo.

I have (had) a working WiFi net at home. The machine I upgraded from
Aurox to Gentoo wasn't a participant in this net some time.

I need a driver - of course. The WiFi card is an Intel ProWireless 2200.
I've choosen the Linux driver for this card. It worked on LFS, Slack and
Aurox. O.K. I've built it for Gentoo too (without emerge - of course ;).
The firmware of the card is uploaded using hotplug. So ... ``emerge
hotplug'' ... and the driver stops working. O.K., I've solved this.

# rc-update del hotplug boot
# emerge --unmerge hotplug
# bunzip2 hotplug.tar.bz2
# tar -xf hotplug.tar
# cd hotplug
# make
# make install

``modprobe'' now shows, that everything works like a charm (and there
isn't even a service started).

Now I need wireless-tools. This is masked. I don't have a clue why. I
have a working installation on LFS and (had) a  working installation on
Aurox. I tried to install the Gentoo package using ebuild. The fetch
told me, that the Gentoo people force everybody who needs wireless-tools
to download and install madwifi. WHY?? None of my wireless-tools
installations is dependent on this (Intel ProWireless 2200, Edimax,
Prism2.5 none of this cards need madwifi).

O.K. this is solved too.

# emerge --unmerge wireless-tools
# emerge --unmerge madwifi
# bunzip wireless-tools.tar.bz2
# tar -xf wireless-tools.tar
# cd wireless-tools
# make
# make install

Now I have a further working installation again.

... so the machine is in the net again :) I'd smile even more if I had
achieved this in a more Gentoo way. :|

Well, now when I've convinced the machine running Gentoo to co-work in
the net, I've a further question.

What will I have to do to change from simpleinit to sysv init? Would it
be sufficiennt to emerge sysv? Will I have to unmerge simpleinit? I'd
like to have my initscripts #!/bin/sh.

Regards and thanks in advance
Frank


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Re: [gentoo-user] cups problem(more)

2005-01-11 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On the server issueong localhost:631 in konqueror gets the console for cups, 
issueing the ip:631 gets Forbidden...

Same thing from clients I always get forbidden. lpstat -a from clients gets 
forbidden..

What am I missing?

Here is cupsd.conf on teh server again.

cupsd.conf on Client Machine

ServerName chiefnb.ptfd.org
Classification none
DefaultCharset UTF-8
DefaultLanguage en
Printcap /etc/printcap
PrintcapFormat BSD
RemoteRoot remroot
SystemGroup lp
ServerCertificate /etc/cups/ssl/server.crt
ServerKey /etc/cups/ssl/server.key
Location /
Encryption IfRequested
Satisfy All
Order deny,allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
Allow From 192.168.14.*
/Location
Location /admin
AuthType Basic
AuthClass System
Encryption IfRequested
Satisfy All
Order deny,allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
Allow From 192.168.14.*
/Location
Location /printers
Encryption IfRequested
Satisfy All
Order allow,deny
Allow From All
/Location
HostnameLookups Off
KeepAlive On
KeepAliveTimeout 60
MaxClients 100
MaxRequestSize 0m
Timeout 300
Listen *:631
AccessLog /var/log/cups/access_log
ErrorLog /var/log/cups/error_log
PageLog /var/log/cups/page_log
MaxLogSize 1m
LogLevel info
PreserveJobHistory On
PreserveJobFiles Off
AutoPurgeJobs No
MaxJobs 0
MaxJobsPerPrinter 0
MaxJobsPerUser 0
User lp
Group lp
RIPCache 8m
FilterLimit 0
DataDir /usr/share/cups
DocumentRoot /usr/share/cups/docs
RequestRoot /var/spool/cups
ServerBin /usr/lib/cups
ServerRoot /etc/cups
TempDir /var/spool/cups/tmp
Browsing On
BrowseProtocols CUPS
BrowsePort 631
BrowseInterval 30
BrowseTimeout 300
BrowseAddress 255.255.255.255
BrowseOrder allow,deny
ImplicitClasses On
ImplicitAnyClasses Off
HideImplicitMembers Yes
BrowseShortNames Yes


Mike


On Monday 10 January 2005 10:17 pm, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 One more piece of info.

 lpstat -a on the client results...

 lpstat: get-printers failed: client-error-forbidden


 Mike

 On Monday 10 January 2005 09:23 pm, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
  Even if this client is a laptop and is sometimes out of contact with the
  LAN?
 
  I knew I was probably missing something... I have always had the clients
  running cupsd and cupsd.conf files??
 
  So how do I print if I don't start cupsd?
 
 
  Mike
 
  On Monday 10 January 2005 09:05 pm, Sarpy Sam wrote:
   On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:20:34 +, Michael W. Holdeman
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  wrote:
Here are the config files.
   
I have never understood cups config files.
   
cupsd.conf on Client Machine
  
   On the client machine you have to configure the /etc/cups/client.conf
   file not the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Virtual mail and mysql

2005-01-11 Thread Kevin Philp
Speaking from a postfix background...so it could all be rubbish! 

The tables can overlap in function. Generally you want virtual and alias - the 
rest can probably be ignored: 

Alias maps one local user to another ie root - fred would be typical so fred 
gets all the root mail.

Relocated is for people who have left - ignore it

transport is specifying a certain route (ie smtp server) for a non local user 
- ignore it

users are the local accounts - john and paul, plus a whole load of default 
stuff

virtual is normally when you can map one user to another in another domain, 
you can also map locally so thats why it overlaps with aliases.

I generally use alias to redirect local mail to another local account and 
virtual to map full email addresses to local users.

Kevin.


On Tuesday 11 January 2005 14:32, Toby Batch wrote:
I'm following the virtual mail set guide on the gentoo site and all
appears to be going ok.  i'm just having a few problem figuring out what
should go in each of the mysql tables?

I have 5 tables:
  alias
  relocated
  transport
  users
  virtual

If I have a server called realserver.com with the users john  paul, and
two virtual servers, virt1.com with user george and virt2.com with user
ringo, then what goes in each table?

Assume each user has a unix log on with a home directory in /home and a
maildir of $HOME/.maildir

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge openoffice results in *tiny* fonts...

2005-01-11 Thread Kevin Philp
Look at the following three and see if anything is weird, check your font 
replacement table to see if you have some wonky font replacement going on. 
What font are you using??:

1. options - openoffice.org - view

2. options - openoffice.org - fonts

2. options - text - basic fonts

Kevin.


On Tuesday 11 January 2005 14:49, Dave Nebinger wrote:
 Hi Dave,

 did you check the zoom for your document? OpenOffice sometimes starts
 with a horrible zoom of say 33%, to fit a whole page on your screen. Try
   changing the zoom to 100%.

That was the first thing I did.  Increasing the font size to 96 point and
zoom to 200% resulted in a viewable point size approximating 6 and was still
too unreadable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10r4

2005-01-11 Thread Victor Argüelles

 
 Ever heard of the placebo effect?
 
 Then again, I thik I'll emerge it and try itout for size.
 
 BTW, how do I check if my system is udev?
 

I'd say, if you don't know which one you're using, and you followed the
installation guide to the letter, you're using devfs.
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[gentoo-user] Re: why do replies go sometimes to sender not list?

2005-01-11 Thread Philip Nilsson
On 10-01-05 21:54 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:
 seems like 50/50 i when i reply it wants to go to the sender
 instead of the list, i keep emailing people directly by mistake.
  with i high volume list like this i would think it would be set
 to reply-to-list, is it just me or are other people going
 through this as well?
 
 
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When I reply in my client, I will be prompted for the
emails to reply to, depending on what headers the message
that I reply to contains the sender's email might be
included or not. For lists the list email is always
included.

This time I did not bother removing the senders email, so
you'll get this too ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] WiFi success story :|

2005-01-11 Thread Ric Messier
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Schafer Frank wrote:
What will I have to do to change from simpleinit to sysv init? Would it
be sufficiennt to emerge sysv? Will I have to unmerge simpleinit? I'd
like to have my initscripts #!/bin/sh.
Is that the only reason you want a SysV init? A bit odd, especially given:
ls -la /bin/sh
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4 Jul  1  2004 /bin/sh - bash
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[gentoo-user] phpmyadmin: pmadb deleted accidentally

2005-01-11 Thread myang

I accidentally deleted the pmadb through phpmyadmin, and now I can not
log into it anymore. Does anyone know know a way to recover it? 

I am using mysql-4.0.20-41 and phpmyadmin-2.6.1-r1. Any hits are highly
apprecitated! 

MF


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Re: [gentoo-user] WiFi success story :|

2005-01-11 Thread Ric Messier
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Ric Messier wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Schafer Frank wrote:
What will I have to do to change from simpleinit to sysv init? Would it
be sufficiennt to emerge sysv? Will I have to unmerge simpleinit? I'd
like to have my initscripts #!/bin/sh.
Is that the only reason you want a SysV init? A bit odd, especially given:
Thinking about this further, I'm even less sure about the problem you are 
trying to solve. You might check to see whether sysvinit is already 
installed as I seem to recall it's part of the base system. I know it's 
installed on my system and I never asked for it explicitly.

Ric
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[gentoo-user] Gnome Emerge fails

2005-01-11 Thread James \Morpheous\ Harrison
Hi,
I'm trying to emerge gnome xscreensaver, I run that command and then it
gets to a certain part and boom...
Console logs as follows:
make[3]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.7-r4/work/alsa-driver-1.0.7/pcmcia/pdaudiocf'
copying file alsa-kernel/pcmcia/pdaudiocf/pdaudiocf.c
patching file pdaudiocf.c
Hunk #2 succeeded at 29 with fuzz 1.
Hunk #3 FAILED at 62.
Hunk #4 succeeded at 80 (offset -4 lines).
Hunk #5 succeeded at 192 (offset -4 lines).
Hunk #6 succeeded at 279 (offset -7 lines).
Hunk #7 succeeded at 377 (offset -7 lines).
Hunk #8 succeeded at 448 (offset -7 lines).
1 out of 8 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file pdaudiocf.c.rej
make[3]: *** [pdaudiocf.c] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.7-r4/work/alsa-driver-1.0.7/pcmcia/pdaudiocf'
make[2]: *** [_sfdep_pdaudiocf] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.7-r4/work/alsa-driver-1.0.7/pcmcia'
make[1]: *** [dep] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.7-r4/work/alsa-driver-1.0.7'
make: *** [include/sndversions.h] Error 2
!!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.7-r4 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 88, Exitcode 2
!!! Parallel Make Failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
message.
Any ideas?
James
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Re: [gentoo-user] WiFi success story :|

2005-01-11 Thread Martin Büchler
unmask ipw2200, then there is no need for building the driver yourself.

i've got it here on my laptop, and it works like a charm. (asus
travelmate 6002lmi, kernel 2.6.9)

mfg martin

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:35:01 -0700 (MST), Ric Messier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Ric Messier wrote:
 
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Schafer Frank wrote:
 
 
  What will I have to do to change from simpleinit to sysv init? Would it
  be sufficiennt to emerge sysv? Will I have to unmerge simpleinit? I'd
  like to have my initscripts #!/bin/sh.
 
 
  Is that the only reason you want a SysV init? A bit odd, especially given:
 
 
 Thinking about this further, I'm even less sure about the problem you are
 trying to solve. You might check to see whether sysvinit is already
 installed as I seem to recall it's part of the base system. I know it's
 installed on my system and I never asked for it explicitly.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Disable Trash Can from Gnome / KDE

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Sullivan
If you enable that option on Behavior and then hold hit Shift+Delete it
will permanently delete the files.  At least that was the was it was in
FC1.  Be very careful if you choose to use this option though...

On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 01:41 -0800, Luke Ravitch wrote:
 On 2005-01-11 01:05, Chris Ong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I need to make the Gnome / KDE to delete my files without
  them moving into the trash can but delete them directely
  instead. I've look thru all the settings in Gnome and KDE
  but there's no setting indicate this function. 
 
 Gnome has an option to include a Delete command that bypasses Trash
 on the Behavior tab in the File Management Preferences dialog.
 
 (Applications - Desktop Preferences - File Management)
 
 This probably isn't everything you're looking for - pressing the
 delete key will still move files to the trash can - but at least you
 can right-click and select Delete to accomplish what you want.
 
 (I don't know about KDE.)
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] pam-login blocks shadow?

2005-01-11 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
I just build my 2004.3 system from a stage3 install and went to update 
and I am seeing the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] veldy # emerge --update --pretend world
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (from pkg sys-apps/shadow-4.0.5-r2)
What does this mean?  How do I fix it?
Hmm ... I guess it helps to have PAM in my USE variables.  I thought 
this was a default and that it wasn't explicitly required?

USE=x86 3dnow X509 acl acpi acpi4linux activefilter alsa apache2 
bash-completion bcmath bzip2 bzlib cap caps cddb cdr clamav cracklib 
crypt cscope ctype cups curl curlwrappers dba dbm dhcp encode erandom 
fastcgi flatfile foomaticdb ftp gcj gcl gd gif gmp gmtfull gmthigh 
gmtsuppl gmttria gsl iconv idea imap imlib inifile innodb java jpeg 
kerberos lcms libclamav lzw-tiff maildir mcal memlimit mhash mime ming 
mmx mng mono msession mysql mysqli nptl ntlm objc odbc pam pcntl pcre 
pdflib pear-db perlsuid php pic pie posix quotas rtc samba sasl session 
skey slang soap sockets softquota suid szip tiff usb vhosts xml2 xmlrpc 
xpm xsl xslt yaz

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Re: [gentoo-user] phpmyadmin: pmadb deleted accidentally

2005-01-11 Thread myang
OK. Solve the problem myself. Thanks!

On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 10:32:57AM -0500, myang wrote:
 
 I accidentally deleted the pmadb through phpmyadmin, and now I can not
 log into it anymore. Does anyone know know a way to recover it? 
 
 I am using mysql-4.0.20-41 and phpmyadmin-2.6.1-r1. Any hits are highly
 apprecitated! 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Emerge fails

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Sullivan
I've been battling this problem for a month now.  The only alternative I
found to go into /usr/portage/media-sound/alsa-driver and try installing
ebuilds from the newest one to the oldest until you find one that works.
I'm sorry, but I don't know how to find what version of alsa-driver I'm
using.  When I installed GNOME it didn't seem to care which alsa-driver
I had installed, as long as there was one.  Now the only problem comes
up when I try to do an emerge -uD world.  I have to do it manually so
that it doesn't trip over alsa-driver...

On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 15:44 +, James Morpheous Harrison wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to emerge gnome xscreensaver, I run that command and then it
 gets to a certain part and boom...
 
 Console logs as follows:
 
 make[3]: Entering directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.7-r4/work/alsa-driver-1.0.7/pcmcia/pdaudiocf'
 copying file alsa-kernel/pcmcia/pdaudiocf/pdaudiocf.c
 patching file pdaudiocf.c
 Hunk #2 succeeded at 29 with fuzz 1.
 Hunk #3 FAILED at 62.
 Hunk #4 succeeded at 80 (offset -4 lines).
 Hunk #5 succeeded at 192 (offset -4 lines).
 Hunk #6 succeeded at 279 (offset -7 lines).
 Hunk #7 succeeded at 377 (offset -7 lines).
 Hunk #8 succeeded at 448 (offset -7 lines).
 1 out of 8 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file pdaudiocf.c.rej
 make[3]: *** [pdaudiocf.c] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.7-r4/work/alsa-driver-1.0.7/pcmcia/pdaudiocf'
 make[2]: *** [_sfdep_pdaudiocf] Error 2
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.7-r4/work/alsa-driver-1.0.7/pcmcia'
 make[1]: *** [dep] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.7-r4/work/alsa-driver-1.0.7'
 make: *** [include/sndversions.h] Error 2
 
 !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.7-r4 failed.
 !!! Function src_compile, Line 88, Exitcode 2
 !!! Parallel Make Failed
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
 message.
 
 Any ideas?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] pam-login blocks shadow?

2005-01-11 Thread Bob Sanders
 Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
 
 I just build my 2004.3 system from a stage3 install and went to update 
 and I am seeing the following:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] veldy # emerge --update --pretend world
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (from pkg sys-apps/shadow-4.0.5-r2)
 
 
 What does this mean?  How do I fix it?
 i

emerge -C pam-login

 Hmm ... I guess it helps to have PAM in my USE variables.  I thought 
 this was a default and that it wasn't explicitly required?


No.  Pam is not required.  You may or may not want pam.  Some apps may need
the pam libs, or think they need it, but strictly speaking, pam is not required.

The choice is yours.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Gnome Emerge fails

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
 I've been battling this problem for a month now.  The only alternative I
 found to go into /usr/portage/media-sound/alsa-driver and try installing
 ebuilds from the newest one to the oldest until you find one that works.
 I'm sorry, but I don't know how to find what version of alsa-driver I'm
 using.  When I installed GNOME it didn't seem to care which alsa-driver
 I had installed, as long as there was one.  Now the only problem comes
 up when I try to do an emerge -uD world.  I have to do it manually so
 that it doesn't trip over alsa-driver...
 
 On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 15:44 +, James Morpheous Harrison wrote:
  Hi, [problem with alsa-driver build failure snipped]

Guys, I don't understand why you're having these issues with alsa-driver.
It's built into the kernel and I can't for any reason see why you're
emerging it directly...  The built-in alsa is working fine for my soundcard,
so maybe that's you're original issue, but I don't know...

I just did an emerge --search of alsa-driver and it is showing as not
installed.  Did an emerge --pretend gnome and it does not come up as a
dependency to be installed.

I've got alsa in my USE flags, so it knows that I'm using it.

It's always been a pain to use alsa drivers of a different release than the
one included with the kernel.  They have to be defined as modules, they have
to be rebuilt after a successful kernel upgrade (or the different alsa
modules will not be available to the new kernel), etc.  It has always been
recommended by all distributions (and alsa project, I believe) to stick with
the built in alsa driver version unless you absolutely need a newer driver.

That plus the fact that the built-in version tends to be well tested before
it is accepted into the kernel source tree...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backup script issues

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Sullivan
OK.  I echoed every line that is to be run before it is run.  I know it
looks like commands take up more than one line, but they don't - it's
just the text wrap.  Here's the script:

#!/bin/bash

rm -r /home/amy/.Trash
rm -r /home/amy/.thumbnails
rm -r /home/michael/.Trash
rm -r /home/michael/.thumbnails

today=`date '+%m%d%y'`

# Backup all
echo Backing up both /home/amy and /home/michael 
   
# michael section
filename=/backup/baby-gentoo-michael-$today.tar.bz2
echo find /home/michael -daystart -type f -mtime 1
 /home/michael/system/iBackup_list
find /home/michael -daystart -type f -mtime 1
 /home/michael/system/iBackup_list
echo tar -c -v --file=$filename -j
--files-from=/home/michael/system/iBackup_list
tar -c -v --file=$filename -j
--files-from=/home/michael/system/iBackup_list
echo Backup of /home/michael complete
   
# amy section
filename=/backup/baby-gentoo-amy-$today.tar.bz2
echo find /home/amy -daystart -type f -mtime 1
 /home/michael/system/iBackup_list
find /home/amy -daystart -type f -mtime 1
 /home/michael/system/iBackup_list
echo tar -c --file=$filename -j
--files-from=/home/michael/system/iBackup_list
tar -c --file=$filename -j
--files-from=/home/michael/system/iBackup_list
echo Backup of /home/amy complete

filename=/backup/baby-gentoo-etc-$today.tar.bz2
echo find /etc -daystart -type f -mtime 1  /home/iBackup_list
find /etc -daystart -type f -mtime 1  /home/iBackup_list
echo tar -c -j --file=$filename  --files-from=/home/iBackup_list
tar -c -j --file=$filename  --files-from=/home/iBackup_list
echo Backup of /etc complete

cp /var/lib/portage/world /backup


And here's the output in the cron report:

rm: cannot remove `/home/amy/.Trash': No such file or directory
rm: cannot remove `/home/amy/.thumbnails': No such file or directory
rm: cannot remove `/home/michael/.thumbnails': No such file or directory
Backing up both /home/amy and /home/michael
tar -c -v --file=/backup/baby-gentoo-michael-011105.tar.bz2 -j
--files-from=/home/michael/system/iBackup_list
tar: Too few arguments; will not create an empty archive.
Usage:  tar cmd [options] file1 ... filen

Use tar -help
and tar -xhelp
to get a list of valid cmds and options.

Use tar H=help
to get a list of valid archive header formats.

Use tar diffopts=help
to get a list of valid diff options.
Backup of /home/michael complete
tar -c --file=/backup/baby-gentoo-amy-011105.tar.bz2 -j
--files-from=/home/michael/system/iBackup_list
tar: Too few arguments; will not create an empty archive.
Usage:  tar cmd [options] file1 ... filen

Use tar -help
and tar -xhelp
to get a list of valid cmds and options.

Use tar H=help
to get a list of valid archive header formats.

Use tar diffopts=help
to get a list of valid diff options.
Backup of /home/amy complete
tar -c -j --file=/backup/baby-gentoo-etc-011105.tar.bz2
--files-from=/home/iBackup_list
tar: Too few arguments; will not create an empty archive.
Usage:  tar cmd [options] file1 ... filen

Use tar -help
and tar -xhelp
to get a list of valid cmds and options.

Use tar H=help
to get a list of valid archive header formats.

Use tar diffopts=help
to get a list of valid diff options.
Backup of /etc complete


I know that I can use a switch to turn off those warnings about the
directories I'm trying to delete not existing, but I like them there.
And as I said, the script works just fine when run in a terminal window.
So why is it tripping?
-Michael Sullivan-





On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 20:05 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 On 08-01-05 10:28 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  I'm having issues with my backup scripts.  I wrote both backup scripts
  back when I was using FC1 on my client PC.  One is a full backup of two
  user accounts in /home and then /etc and the other creates a list of
  files created/modified the date before the script is run and then only
  backs those files up.  Full backup is on Sunday; every other day gets
  iBackup.  They're listed in the crontab to run at 3am.  The trouble is
  each morning when I'm reading my cron report for the backup it says that
  there was a problem with tar in my script, but when I run the script
  from the command line as root it works fine.  I scheduled the script in
  root's (su -) crontab.  Here is the /home/michael/system/iBackup script:
  
  #!/bin/sh
  
  rm -r /home/amy/.Trash
  rm -r /home/amy/.thumbnails
  rm -r /home/michael/.Trash
  rm -r /home/michael/.thumbnails
  
  today=`date '+%m%d%y'`
  
  # Backup all
  echo Backing up both /home/amy and /home/michael 
 
  # michael section
  filename=/backup/baby-gentoo-michael-$today.tar.bz2
  find /home/michael -daystart -type f -mtime 1
   /home/michael/system/iBackup_list
  tar -c --file=$filename -j
  --files-from=/home/michael/system/iBackup_list
  echo Backup of /home/michael complete
 
  # amy section
  filename=/backup/baby-gentoo-amy-$today.tar.bz2
  find /home/amy -daystart -type f -mtime 1
   /home/michael/system/iBackup_list
  tar -c 

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Emerge fails

2005-01-11 Thread Billy Holmes
Dave Nebinger wrote:
That plus the fact that the built-in version tends to be well tested before
it is accepted into the kernel source tree...
Audio enthusiasts need a bleeding edge alsa than the relatively old one 
that's approved into the kernel. Just because good enough is OK for 
you, doesn't mean that it's ok for everyone else. I personally find what 
is built into the kernel to be fine. However, I also find the vanilla 
kernel to not be snappy enough for my requirements.

To believe that the box you hold with square holes is sufficient to 
satisfy all other people's shapes spherical and elliptical is just not 
what Gentoo is about.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Gnome Emerge fails

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
 To believe that the box you hold with square holes is sufficient to
 satisfy all other people's shapes spherical and elliptical is just not
 what Gentoo is about.

Nor do I believe that no one should use alsa drivers outside of the kernel;
obviously there is full support for using a bleeding edge driver when it is
needed.  I happen to be running nitro patches on my 2.6.10 kernel so I'm
already using the bleeding edge alsa driver, and I know many other folks may
want and/or need a different alsa driver; that wasn't the point I was trying
to make.

Neither party said that they were trying to emerge gnome so they could use a
bleeding edge sound application, they just indicated that gnome was failing,
the failure was due to a lack of alsa-driver, and they could not figure out
how to resolve the problem.

Even if they were going to be using a cutting edge sound app, I'd still
suggest to them that they use the built in alsa driver to get their core
components installed (i.e. gnome), then upgrade to a new alsa driver when
they're ready to install that new wizbang sound app.

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FW: [gentoo-user] Re: Backup script issues

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
 OK.  I echoed every line that is to be run before it is run.  I know it
 looks like commands take up more than one line, but they don't - it's
 just the text wrap.
 
 On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 20:05 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 08-01-05 10:28 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
   I'm having issues with my backup scripts.  I wrote both backup scripts
   back when I was using FC1 on my client PC.  One is a full backup of
 two
   user accounts in /home and then /etc and the other creates a list of
   files created/modified the date before the script is run and then only
   backs those files up.  Full backup is on Sunday; every other day gets
   iBackup.  They're listed in the crontab to run at 3am.  The trouble is
   each morning when I'm reading my cron report for the backup it says
 that
   there was a problem with tar in my script, but when I run the script
   from the command line as root it works fine.  I scheduled the script
 in
   root's (su -) crontab.

Probably a difference in cron's environment versus the environment that
you're starting the command in as root...

When I encounter things like this I'll tend to flush out the script with
additional environment properties to make things work.  You can do this by
prepending environment settings manually into the start of the script
(typically the PATH is the critical one), or you can automate part of it by
following the suggestion for using an 'at' script as the basis for the cron
script as documented here:
http://www.cod.utvinternet.com/documentation/mondo-with-cron/mondo-with-cron
-5.html

This suggestion is from mondo-rescue, but you'd do a similar thing with 'at'
using your script name.

I'm willing to bet that this will fix your cron issue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Emerge fails

2005-01-11 Thread James Harrison
Dave Nebinger wrote:
Neither party said that they were trying to emerge gnome so they could use a
bleeding edge sound application, they just indicated that gnome was failing,
the failure was due to a lack of alsa-driver, and they could not figure out
how to resolve the problem.
Even if they were going to be using a cutting edge sound app, I'd still
suggest to them that they use the built in alsa driver to get their core
components installed (i.e. gnome), then upgrade to a new alsa driver when
they're ready to install that new wizbang sound app.
Dave
Hey,
To be completely honest, I have no idea what alsa is ^_^ except the 
basics that is, but i'm gonna try manually emerging it, and if that 
fails i'll try some of the other workarounds suggested.

Thanks to all on this problem...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Emerge fails

2005-01-11 Thread Joel Merrick
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 17:07 +, James Harrison wrote:
 Dave Nebinger wrote:
 
  Neither party said that they were trying to emerge gnome so they could use a
  bleeding edge sound application, they just indicated that gnome was failing,
  the failure was due to a lack of alsa-driver, and they could not figure out
  how to resolve the problem.
  
  Even if they were going to be using a cutting edge sound app, I'd still
  suggest to them that they use the built in alsa driver to get their core
  components installed (i.e. gnome), then upgrade to a new alsa driver when
  they're ready to install that new wizbang sound app.
  
  Dave
 
 Hey,
 
 To be completely honest, I have no idea what alsa is ^_^ except the 
 basics that is, but i'm gonna try manually emerging it, 

If you are using a 2.6 series kernel, it should be build in...


 and if that 
 fails i'll try some of the other workarounds suggested.
 
 Thanks to all on this problem...
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Backup script issues

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
Ooops, wrong list.  Sorry guys...

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Nebinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:04 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: FW: [gentoo-user] Re: Backup script issues
 
  OK.  I echoed every line that is to be run before it is run.  I know it
  looks like commands take up more than one line, but they don't - it's
  just the text wrap.
 
  On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 20:05 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 08-01-05 10:28 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
I'm having issues with my backup scripts.  I wrote both backup
 scripts
back when I was using FC1 on my client PC.  One is a full backup of
  two
user accounts in /home and then /etc and the other creates a list of
files created/modified the date before the script is run and then
 only
backs those files up.  Full backup is on Sunday; every other day
 gets
iBackup.  They're listed in the crontab to run at 3am.  The trouble
 is
each morning when I'm reading my cron report for the backup it says
  that
there was a problem with tar in my script, but when I run the script
from the command line as root it works fine.  I scheduled the script
  in
root's (su -) crontab.
 
 Probably a difference in cron's environment versus the environment that
 you're starting the command in as root...
 
 When I encounter things like this I'll tend to flush out the script with
 additional environment properties to make things work.  You can do this by
 prepending environment settings manually into the start of the script
 (typically the PATH is the critical one), or you can automate part of it
 by
 following the suggestion for using an 'at' script as the basis for the
 cron
 script as documented here:
 http://www.cod.utvinternet.com/documentation/mondo-with-cron/mondo-with-
 cron
 -5.html
 
 This suggestion is from mondo-rescue, but you'd do a similar thing with
 'at'
 using your script name.
 
 I'm willing to bet that this will fix your cron issue.
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Backup script issues

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
Oops again, it was the right list.  Ah well.  Hope this fixes things for you
Michael...

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Nebinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:10 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Backup script issues
 
 Ooops, wrong list.  Sorry guys...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Nebinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:04 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: FW: [gentoo-user] Re: Backup script issues
 
   OK.  I echoed every line that is to be run before it is run.  I know
 it
   looks like commands take up more than one line, but they don't - it's
   just the text wrap.
  
   On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 20:05 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 08-01-05 10:28 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I'm having issues with my backup scripts.  I wrote both backup
  scripts
 back when I was using FC1 on my client PC.  One is a full backup
 of
   two
 user accounts in /home and then /etc and the other creates a list
 of
 files created/modified the date before the script is run and then
  only
 backs those files up.  Full backup is on Sunday; every other day
  gets
 iBackup.  They're listed in the crontab to run at 3am.  The
 trouble
  is
 each morning when I'm reading my cron report for the backup it
 says
   that
 there was a problem with tar in my script, but when I run the
 script
 from the command line as root it works fine.  I scheduled the
 script
   in
 root's (su -) crontab.
 
  Probably a difference in cron's environment versus the environment that
  you're starting the command in as root...
 
  When I encounter things like this I'll tend to flush out the script with
  additional environment properties to make things work.  You can do this
 by
  prepending environment settings manually into the start of the script
  (typically the PATH is the critical one), or you can automate part of it
  by
  following the suggestion for using an 'at' script as the basis for the
  cron
  script as documented here:
  http://www.cod.utvinternet.com/documentation/mondo-with-cron/mondo-with-
  cron
  -5.html
 
  This suggestion is from mondo-rescue, but you'd do a similar thing with
  'at'
  using your script name.
 
  I'm willing to bet that this will fix your cron issue.
 
  Dave
 
 
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] Gnome Emerge fails

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
James do you have alsa in your USE flags?

 To be completely honest, I have no idea what alsa is ^_^ except the
 basics that is, but i'm gonna try manually emerging it, and if that
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[gentoo-user] DWL-520 Rev. E - anyone have this working on Gentoo?

2005-01-11 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi all,
   On my son's computer I run FC2. He just uses it for homework and I
don't want to spend time building code so FC2 was a good choice for
me. I got wireless working on that machine using ndiswrapper and a
DWL-520. It works great.

   My wife's old, slow Windows box has been getting flaky from adware.
I clean it up. It gets bogged down again. She got frustrated enough
that she bought herself a new 3GHz P4HT machine and asked me to load
Linux. Certainly it could handle Gentoo but in a rush I put FC2 on it
and then went to the store to get a wireless NIC for her.

   I thought I was in fat city when I found that DLink still
manufactured the DWL-520 and I could get it for $9 after rebates so I
bought one, brought it home and installed it. Guess what? It's not the
same chipset! My son's 520 uses a Realtek chipset and the new one uses
a Prism chipset and ndiswrapper locks up on the FC2 kernel, apparently
due to FC2 using 4K kernel stack  sizes.

   So, does anyone have the 520 Rev. E using a Prism chipset running
on Gentoo using ndiswrapper? If so I'll start switching the machine
over this morning and likely she'll be a Gentoo user in the next day
or two, but please don't ask me to do it for Gentoo vs. FC2 reasons.
She'd be very happy with FC2 for her first Linux box.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Emerge fails

2005-01-11 Thread James Harrison
Dave Nebinger wrote:
James do you have alsa in your USE flags?

To be completely honest, I have no idea what alsa is ^_^ except the
basics that is, but i'm gonna try manually emerging it, and if that
fails i'll try some of the other workarounds suggested.


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Yes, I do. emerge --search shows it all as being uninstalled, i'm just 
running the emerge now
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Backup script issues

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Sullivan
I put an export PATH= and then root's full path (from echo $PATH while
logged in as root) to the top of the iBackup script.  I'll find out
tomorrow if it worked...

On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 12:10 -0500, Dave Nebinger wrote:
 Oops again, it was the right list.  Ah well.  Hope this fixes things for you
 Michael...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Nebinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:10 PM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Backup script issues
  
  Ooops, wrong list.  Sorry guys...
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Dave Nebinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:04 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: FW: [gentoo-user] Re: Backup script issues
  
OK.  I echoed every line that is to be run before it is run.  I know
  it
looks like commands take up more than one line, but they don't - it's
just the text wrap.
   
On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 20:05 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 08-01-05 10:28 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  I'm having issues with my backup scripts.  I wrote both backup
   scripts
  back when I was using FC1 on my client PC.  One is a full backup
  of
two
  user accounts in /home and then /etc and the other creates a list
  of
  files created/modified the date before the script is run and then
   only
  backs those files up.  Full backup is on Sunday; every other day
   gets
  iBackup.  They're listed in the crontab to run at 3am.  The
  trouble
   is
  each morning when I'm reading my cron report for the backup it
  says
that
  there was a problem with tar in my script, but when I run the
  script
  from the command line as root it works fine.  I scheduled the
  script
in
  root's (su -) crontab.
  
   Probably a difference in cron's environment versus the environment that
   you're starting the command in as root...
  
   When I encounter things like this I'll tend to flush out the script with
   additional environment properties to make things work.  You can do this
  by
   prepending environment settings manually into the start of the script
   (typically the PATH is the critical one), or you can automate part of it
   by
   following the suggestion for using an 'at' script as the basis for the
   cron
   script as documented here:
   http://www.cod.utvinternet.com/documentation/mondo-with-cron/mondo-with-
   cron
   -5.html
  
   This suggestion is from mondo-rescue, but you'd do a similar thing with
   'at'
   using your script name.
  
   I'm willing to bet that this will fix your cron issue.
  
   Dave
  
  
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] DWL-520 Rev. E - anyone have this working on Gentoo?

2005-01-11 Thread Bob Sanders
 
I thought I was in fat city when I found that DLink still
 manufactured the DWL-520 and I could get it for $9 after rebates so I
 bought one, brought it home and installed it. Guess what? It's not the
 same chipset! My son's 520 uses a Realtek chipset and the new one uses
 a Prism chipset and ndiswrapper locks up on the FC2 kernel, apparently
 due to FC2 using 4K kernel stack  sizes.


while I'm not knowledgeable on this board, did you drop the ndiswrapper
and try modprobe prisim or prism54?  It could be there are real Linux
kernel drivers for this board.

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[gentoo-user] Updating world broken?

2005-01-11 Thread Marcin Daczkowski
Hello! 

I have just noticed that pdflib and wine are not listed by `emerge
-upvD world`. But when I manually do `emerge -upv pdflib` or `emerge
-upv wine` it shows that there are new versions for them. I have
similar problem with cups. But after `euse -E cups` it showed up in
`emerge -upvD world` list, so I suspect that it can somehow be problem
with flags. I noticed a lot of use flag changes (i.e i am sure cups
was enabled before, but probably not in make.conf - does use defaults
changed?). What can be a problem here? I just can have more apps that
can be updated but I don't have idea which and I really like to be
up-to-date :P

Greets,
  Marcin Daczkowski

PS: i found pdflib needs updating because glsa - it was on list of
vuln but not in -upvD world :]


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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world broken?

2005-01-11 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Marcin Daczkowski wrote:
Hello! 

I have just noticed that pdflib and wine are not listed by `emerge
-upvD world`. But when I manually do `emerge -upv pdflib` or `emerge
-upv wine` it shows that there are new versions for them. I have
similar problem with cups. But after `euse -E cups` it showed up in
`emerge -upvD world` list, so I suspect that it can somehow be problem
with flags. I noticed a lot of use flag changes (i.e i am sure cups
was enabled before, but probably not in make.conf - does use defaults
changed?). What can be a problem here? I just can have more apps that
can be updated but I don't have idea which and I really like to be
up-to-date :P
If those packages aren't in the world file *and* they aren't a dependency of any 
installed package (the package that needed them has been unmerged, for example), 
they won't show up in a 'emerge -uDpv world'. You may want to run 'emerge -p 
depclean', add anything you want to keep (like cups and wine) to the world file, 
and then run 'emerge depclean'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DWL-520 Rev. E - anyone have this working on Gentoo?

2005-01-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:21:36 -0800, Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I thought I was in fat city when I found that DLink still
  manufactured the DWL-520 and I could get it for $9 after rebates so I
  bought one, brought it home and installed it. Guess what? It's not the
  same chipset! My son's 520 uses a Realtek chipset and the new one uses
  a Prism chipset and ndiswrapper locks up on the FC2 kernel, apparently
  due to FC2 using 4K kernel stack  sizes.
 
 
 while I'm not knowledgeable on this board, did you drop the ndiswrapper
 and try modprobe prisim or prism54?  It could be there are real Linux
 kernel drivers for this board.
 
 Bob

Actually, yes, I tried both. Kudzu found the card and configured it to
use the orinoco_pci driver. That driver starts loading but then says
the card's firmware isn't present and bombs out. (The firmware is
present. I put the card in a Windows box and it works fine.)

I then switched to ndiswrapper which on FC2. You have to do pretty
much everything by hand with ndiswrapper. In that setup ndiswrapper
says the driver and hardware are present, and modprobe ndiswrapper
will load the Windows driver, and genreally I can scan for and
sometimes see the router, but then the system hangs after 2-3 minutes
and I have to pull the power plug to get back. The box will not
respond to any other stimulus.

So, ndiswrapper seems like a reasonable way to go, and if I have to
build a kernel then I'd rather use Gentoo and get the advantages of
portage over time. (Or that's my thought in the cold cruel light of
morning...) ;-)

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RE: [gentoo-user] Updating world broken?

2005-01-11 Thread John Dangler
Have you done emerge -sync recently?

-Original Message-
From: Marcin Daczkowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] Updating world broken?

Hello! 

I have just noticed that pdflib and wine are not listed by `emerge
-upvD world`. But when I manually do `emerge -upv pdflib` or `emerge
-upv wine` it shows that there are new versions for them. I have
similar problem with cups. But after `euse -E cups` it showed up in
`emerge -upvD world` list, so I suspect that it can somehow be problem
with flags. I noticed a lot of use flag changes (i.e i am sure cups
was enabled before, but probably not in make.conf - does use defaults
changed?). What can be a problem here? I just can have more apps that
can be updated but I don't have idea which and I really like to be
up-to-date :P

Greets,
  Marcin Daczkowski

PS: i found pdflib needs updating because glsa - it was on list of
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Re: [gentoo-user] DWL-520 Rev. E - anyone have this working on Gentoo?

2005-01-11 Thread Bob Sanders
 
 Actually, yes, I tried both. Kudzu found the card and configured it to
 use the orinoco_pci driver. That driver starts loading but then says
 the card's firmware isn't present and bombs out. (The firmware is
 present. I put the card in a Windows box and it works fine.)


The firmware needs to be on the hard drive, in a path the firmware
loader can find.  On Gentoo, I see there is - prism54-firmware,
but it's for the Intersil Prism GT and Duette chipsets.

 
 
 So, ndiswrapper seems like a reasonable way to go, and if I have to
 build a kernel then I'd rather use Gentoo and get the advantages of
 portage over time. (Or that's my thought in the cold cruel light of
 morning...) ;-)


Well as you have a Gentoo system, you might pull down the prism54-firmware 
package,
see where it's installed to and cp it over to the other system and give it a 
shot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: GMAIL accounts

2005-01-11 Thread Antoine

Can we please cease this Gmail invite thing / kill this thread ?
It is the new spam, every list gets flooded by it...!
Not a slight exaggeration there? This is the first gmail thread in a 
couple of months. If I got only one thread of useful spam every two 
months (given that likewise, some people really *do* want/need penis 
enlargers), I would not be too worried...
Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: GMAIL accounts

2005-01-11 Thread James Harrison
Antoine wrote:

Can we please cease this Gmail invite thing / kill this thread ?
It is the new spam, every list gets flooded by it...!

gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

If you're using Thunderbird, just add a filter where there's the words 
gentoo-user and gmail in the body to move to a spam folder. Easy as 
dead :)

Mind you, not very spammy. Try using Hotmail for a day, now there's 
spam :p

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Re: [gentoo-user] pam-login blocks shadow?

2005-01-11 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Bob Sanders wrote:
No.  Pam is not required.  You may or may not want pam.  Some apps may need
the pam libs, or think they need it, but strictly speaking, pam is not required.
The choice is yours.
Bob
 

I understand it is not required.  However, it always was the default.  
When did it cease being a default USE variable.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Sane Netword daemon

2005-01-11 Thread Jonathan Hudson
Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
Hi,
My scanner (Agfa touch) is supported by sane, but its connected to my
home server. I have read the website of sane network deamon and they
talk only of grant access to parallel port scanner My Agfa is a usb
scanner does this means that i can not use this kind of setup?
Sane network access works fine for me. Epson 1650 on USB on my Gentoo 
box; net client access from Ubuntu boxen (i686 and PPC). Setup both 
sides is less than intuitive. saned is invoked via xinetd on the server.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cups problem(more)

2005-01-11 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 01/11/05 Michael W. Holdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment:

 On the server issueong localhost:631 in konqueror gets the console for cups, 
 issueing the ip:631 gets Forbidden...

 Same thing from clients I always get forbidden. lpstat -a from clients gets 
 forbidden..

 What am I missing?

 Here is cupsd.conf on teh server again.

 cupsd.conf on Client Machine
I imagine it's a typo *Server* Machine?
If so, you have the very important BrowseAddress item incorrect:
BrowseAddress 255.255.255.255
The addresses here should be ip addresses of the client machines.
Also I don't see what you want to do exactly connecting the server web
interface from the client machine? On the web interface of the *client*
machine you can configure the client to use the server's printer, as soon
as the client can see this printer, which you check on its web (client's)
interface.
(Excuse me if I misunderstood you),
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Re: [gentoo-user] cups problem(SOLVED)

2005-01-11 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
Must have been too many upgrades to cups, unmerged and emerged and now 
everything is fine.

Mike


On Tuesday 11 January 2005 10:13 am, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 On the server issueong localhost:631 in konqueror gets the console for
 cups, issueing the ip:631 gets Forbidden...

 Same thing from clients I always get forbidden. lpstat -a from clients gets
 forbidden..

 What am I missing?

 Here is cupsd.conf on teh server again.

 cupsd.conf on Client Machine

 ServerName chiefnb.ptfd.org
 Classification none
 DefaultCharset UTF-8
 DefaultLanguage en
 Printcap /etc/printcap
 PrintcapFormat BSD
 RemoteRoot remroot
 SystemGroup lp
 ServerCertificate /etc/cups/ssl/server.crt
 ServerKey /etc/cups/ssl/server.key
 Location /
 Encryption IfRequested
 Satisfy All
 Order deny,allow
 Deny From All
 Allow From 127.0.0.1
 Allow From 192.168.14.*
 /Location
 Location /admin
 AuthType Basic
 AuthClass System
 Encryption IfRequested
 Satisfy All
 Order deny,allow
 Deny From All
 Allow From 127.0.0.1
 Allow From 192.168.14.*
 /Location
 Location /printers
 Encryption IfRequested
 Satisfy All
 Order allow,deny
 Allow From All
 /Location
 HostnameLookups Off
 KeepAlive On
 KeepAliveTimeout 60
 MaxClients 100
 MaxRequestSize 0m
 Timeout 300
 Listen *:631
 AccessLog /var/log/cups/access_log
 ErrorLog /var/log/cups/error_log
 PageLog /var/log/cups/page_log
 MaxLogSize 1m
 LogLevel info
 PreserveJobHistory On
 PreserveJobFiles Off
 AutoPurgeJobs No
 MaxJobs 0
 MaxJobsPerPrinter 0
 MaxJobsPerUser 0
 User lp
 Group lp
 RIPCache 8m
 FilterLimit 0
 DataDir /usr/share/cups
 DocumentRoot /usr/share/cups/docs
 RequestRoot /var/spool/cups
 ServerBin /usr/lib/cups
 ServerRoot /etc/cups
 TempDir /var/spool/cups/tmp
 Browsing On
 BrowseProtocols CUPS
 BrowsePort 631
 BrowseInterval 30
 BrowseTimeout 300
 BrowseAddress 255.255.255.255
 BrowseOrder allow,deny
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 On Monday 10 January 2005 10:17 pm, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
  One more piece of info.
 
  lpstat -a on the client results...
 
  lpstat: get-printers failed: client-error-forbidden
 
 
  Mike
 
  On Monday 10 January 2005 09:23 pm, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
   Even if this client is a laptop and is sometimes out of contact with
   the LAN?
  
   I knew I was probably missing something... I have always had the
   clients running cupsd and cupsd.conf files??
  
   So how do I print if I don't start cupsd?
  
  
   Mike
  
   On Monday 10 January 2005 09:05 pm, Sarpy Sam wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:20:34 +, Michael W. Holdeman
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   wrote:
 Here are the config files.

 I have never understood cups config files.

 cupsd.conf on Client Machine
   
On the client machine you have to configure the /etc/cups/client.conf
file not the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
   
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Re: [gentoo-user] DWL-520 Rev. E - anyone have this working on Gentoo?

2005-01-11 Thread Billy Holmes
Mark Knecht wrote:
or two, but please don't ask me to do it for Gentoo vs. FC2 reasons.
She'd be very happy with FC2 for her first Linux box.
my wife uses FC1, and if I even approach her box like I'm gonna upgrade 
it or change it, she growls and points at the couch. You have to pick 
your battles :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] DWL-520 Rev. E - anyone have this working on Gentoo?

2005-01-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:27:20 -0500, Billy Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
  or two, but please don't ask me to do it for Gentoo vs. FC2 reasons.
  She'd be very happy with FC2 for her first Linux box.
 
 my wife uses FC1, and if I even approach her box like I'm gonna upgrade
 it or change it, she growls and points at the couch. You have to pick
 your battles :)
 

Sure, I get that, but I don't want to talk about FC vs. Gentoo. I just
want a solution to this networking dilemma. Does she run an 520 Rev. E
on FC1? If so, how? Do you run one on Gentoo? If so, let me know.

Just looking for a solution, not a debate on what distro is better as
there is no single answer to that. Sometimes I prefer Gentoo,
sometimes FC. Depends on the job.

Thanks,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] Hauppauge Wintv

2005-01-11 Thread Tony Boom

Can anyone point me to a detailed Howto on getting  a Hauppauge Wintv card 
working in Gentoo please. I've been googling for hours but can't find 
anything specific other than other peoples problems.

MNI TNX
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Re: [gentoo-user] pam-login blocks shadow?

2005-01-11 Thread Bob Sanders
 
 I understand it is not required.  However, it always was the default.  
 When did it cease being a default USE variable.


Looking at the shadow Changelog, the ebuilds were updated
on 23 Nov 2004 for shadow-4.0.5-r{2,3}, and shadow-4.0.6,
all based on bug 67815 - Remove PAM requirement in Gentoo.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Emerge fails

2005-01-11 Thread Billy Holmes
Dave Nebinger wrote:
Even if they were going to be using a cutting edge sound app, I'd still
suggest to them that they use the built in alsa driver to get their core
components installed (i.e. gnome), then upgrade to a new alsa driver when
they're ready to install that new wizbang sound app.
a perfectly sound theory to solve a problem. However, from my reading of 
your reply to the parent to this thread, my interpetation was you 
weren't saying the same thing. Michael replied with his own solution, 
and you fired back, questioning the reason for using the alsa ebuilds. 
There are reasons, and that was the point I wanted to make. James 
probably should unmerge alsa, and use the version in the 2.6 kernel. 
Before knowing his reason for using the ebuild, it's not really fair to 
question it.

This has gotten off topic, and I apologize and hope James uses these 
suggestions to make his system more stable.

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