Re: Retiring after 43+ years with IBM
Aw darn! I was hoping you'd be there until I retired next summer! Congratulations, and enjoy it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
REPRO MERGECAT performance
We've just done a couple of REPRO MERGECATs that were fairly large, and took some time, so I was wondering: Can MERGECAT performance be improved by altering the buffer space values for either the input or output catalog, or both? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM manual formats
Well, if IBM still started with markup (DCF / GML etc.) for their documents, then they could use a different set of markup handlers and output something that would be a good start. If they're using something else for document creation, I think doing a 'save as' to certain document formats would work better for what the Kindle publishing tools use. Calibre is also supposed to be able to handle different conversions, but I think the input source should be something other than PDF - because as I understand PDF, you would be trying to work backward from pages which are more-or-less laid out. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM manual formats
Bear in mind that Kindle, and many other ereaders, are designed to automatically reflow text to fit user options like text size. Which works great for text, not so well for images like diagrams. The best think I've found for diagrams so far is to put the diagram on a page by itself and make sure the Kindle will size it to fit the entire page and even then, the diagram has to shrink to fit a 4x6 Kindle instead of an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper. This is definitely an area where the 'human factors' people ought to get involved. I think it's worth the time and effort, because many people want their manuals in many different (and often mobile) forms. I also think intra-document linking can help a lot for devices like Kindle; page-changing is pretty rapid, but scrolling through more than a few pages costs time. I think the RedBook people ought to do a 'Greybook' about re-working documents for the Kindle ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM TS7740 Copy/Export process
I am reading and posting via the web interface, so I don't always see the messages real time. I am trying to find my way with this Copy/Export business. It doesn't seem as though modifying virtual volumes to indicate anything makes sense, but I'm reserving judgement on that. I can see driving EJC for ejection of the physical volumes which are being exported, and possibly also either vaulting or some sort of update of the out-of-area status of a physical tape but I'm not as certain about that for virtual tapes. Another question I have is just how important is knowing the virtual-to-exported-physical mapping in a TS7740 environment? It's not like I can recover individual virtual volumes (that I know of) - at DR, I have to recover the TS7740 from zero, and recover it all, right? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
DFSORT question
I would like to assign a sequence number to the input of ICETOOL, with a limit on the maximum number - so for example, the number would increment from 1 to 6, then start at 1 again. Can I combine the seqnum and MOD operations to do it in one pass, or do I need to add sequence numbers, create a work dataset, then apply the MOD operation? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT question
Example input, RECFM=FB,LRECL=14: DSK001 100 DSK002 3962002 DSK003 0001001 DSK005 200 DSK006 200 DSK008 010 DSK007 0001002 DSK004 0527192 Two fields: VOLSER in 1-6 and SIZE in 8-14. I want to assign a 'sequence' number to the input from 1 to 4, so that I can sort these into 4 groups, and within those groups descending order by size: So for this group the input would be modified to have the sequence in 16 (for example) resulting in a temporary work dataset of LRECL=16: DSK001 100 1 DSK002 3962002 2 DSK003 0001001 3 DSK005 200 4 DSK006 200 1 DSK008 010 2 DSK007 0001002 3 DSK004 0527192 4 And the final output would be RECFM=FB,LRECL=14 DSK006 200 DSK001 100 DSK002 3962002 DSK008 010 DSK007 0001002 DSK003 0001001 DSK005 200 DSK004 0527192 The idea is to balance disk backup jobs by spreading the large volumes across the (4) jobs evenly. Doing the sort this way isn't perfect but it's closer to what is needed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on SMFDUMP on z/OS v1.7
SMFDUMP is used on some of the LPARs at the consolidated site where I work. The program is run via automated job scheduler; frequency varies by how busy that LPAR is. SMFDUMP has a problem sometimes where it hangs. I haven't seen an enqueue cause. I haven't taken a dump of it yet but I suspect that it is when the SMF datasets on the sandbox system, rarely dumped, are full, and that somehow causes a problem. I strongly recommend the use of the IEFU29 exit. It just needs, at minimum, to issue something like 'S SMFDUMP,DS=' and fill in the SMF dataset name (which is passed to the exit). The LPARS which use IEFU29 have an SMF dump proc which creates the output as a new entry in a GDG, sized to hold the data from one SMF dataset (the largest, if they are not all the same). At midnight automation issues the SWITCH SMF command (aka 'I SMF') to force a switch, which in turn kicks IEFU29. On a daily basis, the GDG entries are gathered into a daily file and the GDG cleared. That job, SMFDAY, is scheduled via an automatic job scheduler. Other daily processing of SMF data is done by jobs which are successors to the SMFDAY job. The IEFU29 / proc method has so many advantages that we will be switching everyone over to it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Replace VTS with a tape less appliance
As with all things, YMMV, but I have had success moving from VTS/VSM to DASD. It was hard to quantify cost savings, because the vendor didn't separate out cost of the virtual box (including its DASD) from the cost of the robotic library. Some important factors, in my opinion: 1. Do you have DASD you can get for free? In my case, I had a DS8100 with excess capacity so I could set up volumes for TMM (Tape Mount Management) without purchasing new DASD. It's not really free, of course, but acquisition cost for this project was zero. 2. Understanding the tape data and usage: I used a combination of MXG and IBM's Volume Mount Analyzer, and found out that 80% of the tape datasets were 40MB or less, making them 'low hanging fruit'. 3. Having a good working relationship with the application/end-user people you're going to affect. In my case, it was very important with one office (because of some ancient history between our two organizations) that I agree to be on-call to fix problems with their batch workload if TMM caused something to blow up. After about a month, everything was working smoothly enough that we were able to change all the rest of their tape over to TMM. 4. System-determined BLKSIZE: I was surprised at how many tape DD statements did NOT use it. We corrected some even before moving the dataset to DASD, just for the perforance impact. 5. SMS compression: while it can cost some CPU, it can minimize the space you need to accomplish the move to DASD. There's possibly a trade-off point somewhere - not yet analyzed - in the small dataset range where there's no point compressing the dataset because the decompression time might outweigh the I/O time. 6. Hierarchical Storage Management: Good understanding of how you will use HSM/ABR to migrate the TMM data to ML2. If you don't want to migrate, then plan to buy new DASD regularly as you keep accountant-mandated 20 years of detailed transactions around on disk. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Replace VTS with a tape less appliance
No, and I didn't mean to imply that it was. We use native high-capacity cartridges for ML2. It has its own management challenges of course, but is working well for us right now. One question often comes up when discussing using tapeless systems for ML2: If I'm going to have it on disk anyway, why did I migrate it? The question gets into muddy areas because the DS8xxx series has options for adding lower-cost and/or lower-performance drives, which are primarily aimed at the same use cases as tape. So - do you send ML2 to those types of drives? Offsite storage also presents questions: do you let your 'tapeless' virtual tape system replicate its back-end disk, or do you just replicate your DS8xxx system and avoid going to 'tape' at all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Beating a dead horse but
Thanks to all who replied, and apologies for not tracking this in a timely manner (life intervenes, etcetera) to the thread on IEFBR14 DELETEs and HSM recalls. I had not heard of the enhancement to z/OS 1.11 that should do just what I want it to, but I'll check it out. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Beating a dead horse but
In a 2008 thread on people using IEFBR14 to do deletes there as this: Indeed, how should Allocation know whether the program about to execute wants to do something with the dataset(s) before deleting it/them? Perhaps Allocation could be educated to issue HDELETE iff the dataset is migrated *AND* DISP=(,DELETE) *AND* PGM=IEFBR14. I have a set of application folks who use this method for tape datasets (reusing the dataset names, rather than making them unique for whatever reason), and of course no one wants to change the batch application because of testing requirements, busy with other things, etc. I believe HSM installs a catalog locate exit, as does ABR, to handle the 'dynamic recall' . Why can't the exit check for this specific set of conditions: 1. jobstep program is IEFBR14 2. At offset 0 of the location of IEFBR14 in storage, we have '1BFF07FE' : SR 15,15 followed by BCR 15,14 3. Status is OLD or MOD 4. normal disposition AND conditional disposition are DELETE If all of the above are met, then do the equivalent of HDELETE for the dataset Seems to me that verifies in most cases that we're dealing with the real IEFBR14 and not a replacement (although I grant it's possible to leave those bytes in place by coding an IEFBR14 replacement with a different entry point, I believe it in practice to be pretty unlikely), and that the dataset is intended to be deleted no matter what (both dispositions are DELETE). The workaround for now is to try to make sure the dataset to be deleted is either retained until the delete reference (often the next day), OR to do HRECALLs ahead of the job. As I said, this is probably beating a dead horse but I didn't see this specific proposal mentioned. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Concatenating TERSEd data?
We need to TERSE a fairly large (for us) amount of data. This data is in multiple separate datasets now, but needs to be sent as one large sequential dataset. We can TERSE the concatenated sequential input of course; but out of curiosity I'm wondering: can you TERSE the individual components, concatenate the results via IEBGENER, and the UNTERSE the resulting file on the other end? From what I remember about Lempel-Ziv, the dictionary is built as you go along but it might mean that the second and subsequent files concatenated would be read with incomplete information, resulting in erroneous decompression results? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SMFPRMxx questions
Somewhere in our migration to z/OS 1.9 (pretty sure it wasn't this way on 1.7), our IEFUJV exit started getting invoked for OMVS address spaces. Since this exit tries to enforce TIME= and account numbers on job cards, it fails our OMVS address spaces. We coded, in SMFPRM, SUBSYS(OMVS,NOEXITS) as a work-around. This solved the immediate problem but introduced another. Now, file predecessors in our job scheduling software don't work when the dataset is closed by FTP. The vendor confirms that they dynamically install IEFU83 for SYS, SYSJES2, and SYSTSO to monitor SMF records (14/15) to determine when a dataset has closed and mark the file predecessor complete. Coding SMFPRM to pick up the IEFU83 exit point for the OMVS: SUBSYS(OMVS (IEFU83) doesn't work because it seems to pick up IBM's IEFU83. We probably need to code the vendor's module name on an exit statement for SYSOMVS.IEFU83 and we're working on that, but I have had other questions: 1. If we let EXITS default at the SYS level, and we code EXITS at the SUBSYS level, SUBSYS seems to inherit the other exits when we do D SMF,O; is that correct? 2. If so, does that mean we need to code SYS(NOEXITS) and then SUBSYS (EXITS(IEFwhatever, IEFwhatever)) for each SUBSYS? 3. Some doc seems to imply that when multiple IEFU83 exit modules are defined, they _all_ get invoked. Which one's return code is honored? 4. Our exits are named IEFx because we've had them for years, from before the EXIT statement existed. Is current best practice to give them installation-specific names and add EXIT statements in PROGxx for them? Our ultimate goal is to make sure our IEFUJV doesn't get invoked for OMVS address spaces, but it's sure been confusing trying to figure out the hierarchy of the exits. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
DFSORT/ICETOOL question
Really two questions I guess. 1. We have variable length records with the data similar to COBOL 'OCCURS DEPENDING ON' clauses - a count of the number of segments to follow, followed by those segments. Is there a way to handle these in INREC/OUTREC/OUTFILE ? I already thought of using IFTHEN - if the count is at least 1, output data from 1st segment, if at least 2, output from first 2 segments, etc. but I don't see how to do that based on the count that's in the record 2. Is there a way to describe such segments in DFSORT Symbols? I've been RTFM and PDFs but without enlightenment. It seems to me that it requires being able to specify the position field as a calculation rather than a constant (i.e. 'p' = base+ (seg_number_starting_from_0*seg_length+offset_to_field_in_segment)? This would also be of use for some SMF records I'd imagine. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL question
I know the offset and format of the count, and I certainly can compare it to a literal. The problem is not knowing the maximum value the count could have in any group of records (and each record can have a different value for the count). I could for example, code the IFTHEN statement to handle 9 segments, but have a record show up with 10. I could, I suppose, make one pass through the file to determine the maximum number of segments, then create control statements to process them. I guess what I was looking for would be more of an iterative loop processing of the record segments. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Dumb CA-1 question
It's Friday and the brain apparently turned off, and RTFM isn't working well When running with CA-1 active, is it possible to reset the expiration date of an existing tape dataset via the EXPDT= parameter in JCL? Some of us thought that at one time it was possible, at least for single-dataset volumes... but others don't. The only thing I could think of would be to rewrite the dataset with DISP=OLD and a new EXPDT= but I can't see that you could do it without recreating the dataset - for example, by reading it and coding EXPDT= in the JCL. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Management type Conferences
SHARE has management tracks as well. I know they specifically have a Software Assett Management project, I went to a session on the Subcapacity Reporting Tool given by the manager who receives the data - she was knowledgable, well-spoken, etc. There is also a Computer Operations Management Project (COMP). They are all under the System Management program: Systems Management: Computer Operations Management Project Enterprise-Wide Systems Management Interdisciplinary Technologies Security and Audit Software Asset Management Technical Support Management Systems Management Several of those might be of interest to manager types. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 07/13/2007 07:48 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Management type Conferences Does anyone have an idea where manager types can go to get information on their job functions? We have SHARE, CMG and a few others we can attend. For areas like Data Center Management or Asset Management topics, are there any conferences to lean towards those topics more? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070711-legacy-matters-why-the-ibm-mainframe-continues-to-thrive.html referenced article http://www.itjungle.com/big/big071007-story01.html Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Career Advice Sought
I have to agree with Ken's post, Eric - remember that in a lot of ways, what the server farms are learning to do, you've already done for years; the RAS attitude is definitely transferable, especially in the DR / Business Continuity area, also in the area of operational automation: with the large number of servers, automating how things go daily is a challenge I'm sure... I am, as are many of us, spoiled by the 'set it and forget it' way of the mainframe where you can set up a process and it's still working 3 decades later (recently had to review one of these!). Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/03/2007 03:04:33 PM: Don't forget about related areas. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
FORTRAN
We have a lot of FORTRAN engineering programs; not much new development or maintenance, but when there is it often gets migrate to some variety of FORTRAN or C with a GUI on a PC. But you can't get rid of it: many of the engineers that developed the code have calculated their last structural element tensor, pocketed their slide rule, and moved on to wherever engineers go (there are definite theological debates over the fates of engineers vs. non-engineers ;-) )... but the new guys with the fresh engineering degrees are not always ready to do away with something that seems to do the calculations correctly. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM tapes
OK, I've just got to ask: if you're going to migrate to disk, why not just leave the data where it was? If HSM or something does compression before creating the migrated copy, use DFSMS compression for the original data, perhaps? I don't see the advantage in migrating data from disk to disk, in other words. If I'm overlooking something, please enlighten me. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICC question
The ICC is just like a TN3270E server - your PC's emulator program specified the LU name, which is matched to an LU name in the ICC to select that particular device. You have to match a device in order to become a console, since consoles are assigned by device number. You can use any IP address in the ICC's address range to connect and match up; but as far as I know you can't do it from any IP address you want. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Andy White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 07/02/2007 09:52 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject ICC question Is anyone out there using an ICC for IPL'ing their systems? We started to play around with the ICC in our z9 box. We want to use it to eliminate our old 3174's locally we did some preliminary testing with a PC at my desk with a static IP address. We were able to successfully IPL the LPARS on the box with out any problem. Now we want to expand the use of the ICC's we have at our remote DR site (we own the site) and IPL the z9 remotely from our location but we don't want to use a static address. I've looked through the redbook on the ICC and don't see how we might be able to 'pool' the console so we could IPL from anywhere within our network e.g. behind our firewalls etc. Could anyone who is using an ICC card to IPL their system tell me how they were able to 'pool' the addresses so multiple PC's could IPL and not be static or direct me in the right direction (maybe I didn't read something correctly). If you want to write me off-line that is fine. Thanks Andy Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S0C4 in IEBCOPY on z/OS 1.8
Do you have PDSFAST, FDRREORG, or other product which replaces IEBCOPY ? You may need to re-install, or at least look into, the usermod or other hook that does provides the IEBCOPY entry point. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/29/2007 09:47:20 AM: Wonder if anyone else has experienced this. We just rolled out z/OS 1.8 to our 1st two Test/Dev LPARs and we have encountered a problem. Our DB2 folks were copying a PDSE loadlib and got an IGW message in the IEBCOPY followed by recursive S0C4 and S0C1 abends. Essentially, until this is resolved, we are stopped dead in our tracks from rolling out z/OS 1.8 any further. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: File to PDF Product
I evaluated a copy of JES2FTP / JES2MAIL a couple of years ago; it has a lot of capability above and beyond the PDF creation: it has a scripting language you can use, for example, to split a large report into smaller PDFs based on page fields; create HTML pages, etc. It was a good product, and I'm sure it's improved since then. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Products to send alerts from the mainframe to mobile devices
We currently use AF/Remote, in conjunction with AF/Operator, to send alerts to certain pagers; we're also trying to use it to copy some action messages to pagers. What other products do people use for this purpose? Are there products which can route mainframe alerts to cell phones (SMS or EMS preferably)? Please note: we'd prefer products that do not rely on our server-based e-mail infrastructure, because we don't have any control over its uptime. If it uses SMTP or sendmail on the mainframe, it's possible we could do that although currently we are directed to use IPMAILERNAME to route through an MTA in that infrastructure it's possible I could get an exception granted. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OPERLOG stops after IPL
And, Carmen, even if you _are_ perturbed because we didn't solve your problem for you, there are more polite ways to express it. Most of us have our own fires to fight, for employers who put money in the bank, so forgive us if our volunteer work comes second. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities
Question: how do we know that your organization is not just asking us to provide a way to disrupt mainframe systems? No offense intended, at all; it's just a basic security question. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Storage Group for non-SMS volumes?
This is one of those things that _ought_ to exist, but I can't find it documented anywhere so far. Is there, anywhere a 'reserved name' storage group which contains all of the non-SMS volumes? If it doesn't exist, has it been suggested through the requirements process that anyone knows of? If I were implementing it, it would contain all volumes which are online to the current system I'm using it on, and which are not part of a storage group. The advantage to having this would be to allow me to use utilities / commands that have storagegroup operands for selecting groups of volumes (for example, ABR's MOUNT STORGRP=). Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I have a couple of thoughts. First I am on z/OS V1.7. Not sure of your release. Are you trying to list this through ISMF or some other fashion? If ISMF, then you can use Option 2 to list all volumes. Then sort on column 22 to see the ones marked NONSMS for nonsms. If you have Quickref you can use the SPACE command and look under the STG Grp column and see it is I've used both of those techniques, but they don't address what my issue is: I'd like to be able to treat those volumes as a group (mainly in batch utilities) rather than having to name them individually, or as an inverted selection (i.e. EXCLUDE STORGRP= naming all of my valid storage groups). Personally, I would just make all of the volumes SMS managed, but the z/OS installer and I disagree on that, so at a minimum all of the volumes for target libraries for z/OS and products packed with z/OS are at the moment non-SMS. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Why do we need BPXBATCH, JZOS et. al.?
That's like asking why we need IKJEFT01 to run TSO commands in batch. The commands need an environment which supplies the services needed to execute. BPXBATCH et al provide that environment for Unix commands. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to list LE options
I never understood the auditor/sysprog paranoia about letting normal users have access to the operator Display commands I don't know about your shop, but at ours it gets to be a pain when users call to complain because: my job is 20th on the queue it looks like there are an awful lot of abends today , what are you guys doing about it? why is job such-and-such allowed to generate 20 million lines? We also had similar problems with programmers and RMFMON before we protected it. It's not that I don't want them to see the information, it's that they don't understand the information they see, and then they complain to me about it. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CMS/DOD idle connection requirements
Don't know about DOD but our security folks were satisfied that the multi-session product (Supersession in our case) timed out and locked its session with the physical terminal while allowing the virtual terminal sessions to remain live. This allows a timed out user to resume where they left off, preventing the productivity loss. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Idenitfy ibm-main posts on Lotus Notes
I have a rule for when Sender, To, or CC contain IBM-MAIN, which moves mail to a different Notes folder. since the folder is highlighted when it contains unread mail, this sort of provides color coding. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
what does IBM really have to lose? I agree that licenses of some sort need to be accessible to the small developers; however if a hobbyist license is granted, how do they keep it from being abused by unscrupulous companies who then run their business on the hobbyist machine rather than the commercial mainframe license (that they dropped once they found they could get away from it)? Perhaps IBM needs to be allowed to do something the other vendors are doing - bundling all sorts of software in as part of their OS. For example - Microsoft Paint, Notepad, and Wordpad are all demonstrably applications; their drag to the CD to burn it software is demonstrably a backup utility. IBM unbundles all of these things now - I think because of the consent decree way back when, correct me if I'm wrong. What if they were allowed to sell us a single OS license that included everything we needed to run our apps, including CICS, WebSphere, and DB2, and they priced it for what z/OS goes for now? Would our bean counters be happy? Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Virtual tape cost question
I don't know if the rules of this list allow cost discussion - but I'm not asking for specific numbers, and I'm trying to avoid being specific about the vendor, so maybe it will slide? We're trying to evaluate switching to Tape Mount Management versus virtual tape. This post is not about the pros or cons of doing it; rather we're trying to analyze what some of the costs are. We already have a virtual tape system, leased, so as part of our analysis we asked the vendor to tell us cost figures for the virtual tape box. What we got back was about 20% of the total lease cost. This doesn't make sense to me - I figured the virtual tape components, being basically a multi-processor computer and a disk array, would cost more than the robotic tape components. Am I wrong in this? If anyone has actual cost figures for their virtual tape box separately, could you give me a ballpark of what the ratio of the cost of the virtual compontents to the tape components should be so I can do a sanity check on what I'm hearing? Basically, I'm trying to determine whether the vendor is lowballing the cost figure to influence whether or not we include a virtual tape box on our next lease... Thanks Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virtual tape cost question
I started this analysis thinking a robotic tape library was the way to go, but I've changed my mind. I can't see how anyone can justify physical tape anymore. Most virtual tape systems eventually write to physical tape as they internally perform hierarchical storage management. There's an OS that does HSM functions on a bunch of disk, and when the disk space gets full, the datasets representing virtual tape volumes are written off to physical tape. The robotic tape library I looked at is also virtual, but is backed by physical tape. The costs to purchase a robotic tape library with about 250 cart capacity is just over $400K. The cost to purchase 15TB of DASD or a virtual tape solution backed by DASD is around $200K. That is the cost of a robotic tape library _plus_ the virtual tape storage box with it, if I am reading you right. What we're looking at is the cost of _just_ the robotic tape library in conjunction with DASD we already own, versus the robotic tape + virtual tape solution. Since we have the capacity on our DASD to provide a disk buffer for the sequential datasets we currently create on tape it's hard to see the benefit of going to a virtual tape rather than just a sequential dataset on disk. The backups and migrated copies of these datasets will go to physical, not virtual tape. Physical tape transported offsite via vehicle we believe to be cheaper than PPRC or offsite tape devices connected via channel extenders (and of course high-speed networks). But that's not part of my original question either, I'm just trying to find out whether the virtual tape component being 20% of the total cost is legit or not. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Questions to the list
Tom Schmidt: Now we are seeing evidence of new people (if not new workload) ... and we COMPLAIN about helping them?!? Just to set the record straight, I thought I tried pretty hard to avoid complaining; except for the little bit about reading the manual first. Bob Shannon: they are taught to take problems as far as they can before asking for help. That is part of the learning/teaching paradigm. I agree, and it also strengthens their skills for the long term. Knowing how to use the reference materials is one reason I survived here so long, when (way back) the really experienced guys left for IBM and elsewhere. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help settle a job title/role debate
Wayne Driscoll wrote: Makes me wish there was a certification test required to run for public office! Why? We all know that those guys are certifiable! Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100
Make changes to the current member of VTAMLST, issue V NET,ACT,ID=,UPDATE=ALL and it should implement your changes on the fly. VTAM has quite a bit of update-while-running functionality, rarely mentioned, but it is documented. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ulterior Motive for IBM's Lawsuits
I don't think IBM is trying to turn the zSeries into a gaming system; rather they are trying to take advantage of the Cell processor that they spent quite a bit of money developing. In the long term we may see them provide a _lot_ of Cell processors in one zSeries box, with the Cell being microcoded to emulate zSeries instruction set, perhaps with some parallel-processing instructions and/or networking added. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RES: Counting occurrences of a string in loadlib
Why not do this in Assembler? There are interfaces for reading the directory of the PDS; then do a LOAD, [insert your scan of the loaded load module here], DELETE for each load module? LOAD will return the address and length of the entire module loaded, if I am not mistaken, which is easier than assembling the module in Rexx, I think. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 reliability question
One of the good intangibles about z/OS (and, MVS/ESA, and MVS/XA, and.. ) reliability is that when you call support with a problem, they usually work on the problem. With those other guys and even with some vendors on z/OS who code on other platforms and then port to z/oS, you often spend the first day or two convincing them that there *is* a problem and that the problem *is* in their code.IBM's mainframe support, on the other hand, usually assumes that you are *not* a clueless person and that when you call, a problem *does* exist.While it's hard to measure, I do believe that this contributes to a faster problem resolution cycle and therefore improved reliability. Thanks, IBM support crew - wherever you are now. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Many or few instructions?
You need only one instruction: DOIT The rest is just operands and microding g,d, r Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Death of the Mainframe (?)
Well, there go my aspirations for attending NIU after I retire. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Fw: IS IBM COBOL dead or just not being upgraded for z9? Re: z9 Hardware update
Perhaps the COBOL compiler builders feel that the code generated is optimal without using relative branch or the other new instructions. Most application programmers don't see the instruction-level code, nor do they really need to. Most systems people would only worry about it if they were aware of a real CPU hog that could benefit; if response time is within the SLAs, and all work is getting done, then no one much bothers with further code optimization. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z9 Hardware update
That's a shame. I would love to propose we start using XML to store all our data. If it offloaded to the special CPU's we can really save $$$. Consider: you're going to create it once, but parse it many times thereafter. The more you read the data, the better the economics will be. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Flex, Hercules, mainframe future and IBM annual meeting
In the protest/Abby Hoffman spirit we could write a green card titled Steal This Green Card and run a turkey for president. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 for z/OS version 7 - accessing an Oracle database from CICS and batch
Oracle has an Oracle for DRDA adapter which runs on an Oracle box and plays with DB2's DDF; they also have an Oracle DB2 gateway which runs as two started tasks on the mainframe: network and gateway, and makes DB2 appear to an Oracle network as another Oracle instance. I've installed the latter, it works pretty well. Requires a small DB2 database which contains some mapping info (I think it's one row). There's an Oracle subsystem (usually named ORAC); you use ORAC commands to start and stop gateway pieces which let us fit it into our AF/Operator automation. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 for z/OS version 7 - accessing an Oracle database from CICS and batch
In my previous post I mentioned the DB2 gateway - I'm not sure it works bi-directionally; Oracle's DRDA gateway is probably what you want. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Effects of Linux on z...ISV support and z/OS (Was: IBM to the PCM market)
Let's be fair - Windows security may or may not be bad. What we usually see are examples of poor application programming security. At least from my viewpoint, Internet Explorer, Word, Firefox, et al are applications, they're not part of the core OS. Which is, of course, not to say that Windows OS security is as good as z/OS Security Server, but I think we just want to compare apples to apples. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: dynamic zAAP
You would possibly want to shut the use of zAAP off for development environments, to prevent alpha-level code loops from using resources better spent on production (I'd say money-making work but as you can see I work for a government, people believe we don't make it we just spend it) work. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z9BC HMC - Remote access?
On our boxes, the HMC has been on a private network, it's not exposed to our LAN - which means I have to go into the data center to do HMC functions of course. I was always wary of having my HMC on a network visible to others - but it seems many are doing it. What makes it secure enough for you? Is it vulnerable to a denial-of-service attack if someone keeps hammering at it? And for those of you using AF/Remote or a similar product with an HMC interface - do you allow people to dial into that product from outside your LAN to do HMC functions? Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RACF and Member Level Protection
RACF does not protect individual members - and I don't see how Top Secret does either. SAF is called from OPEN, which is a dataset-level, not member-level function. Top Secret could of course intercept BLDL and STOW to provide some sort of member security - but I think those intercepts would have a performance penalty given all of the PDS searches in an MVS shop, and of course there are always programs which don't bother with BLDL to worry about. I am not a RACF expert (I'll leave that to Walt and Russ and others) but reasoning tells me member protection can't be 100% - too many ways around it. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
Bob Shannon wrote: XMIT the PDSE to a flat file. FTP (binary) the Xmitted file. RECEIVE the file on the target system. If JES subsystems on the two systems are connected via NJE, then just XMIT the PDS-E to a user on the other system, and RECEIVE it there; no need to go through the flat file and FTP in that case. If the two share spool, you don't even need an NJE connection. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VSM(VT), Disaster Recovery, No Tapes
You could FTP those files to a PC running an FTP server / services, then copy them to a USB key to take them to the DR site, I suppose. I think you're going to have a problem determining the number of T1 cartridges you need. If you mix retention on the cartridge, then as you say you have to keep it offsite until the dataset with the longest retention period expires. The number of cartridges you need is equal to (number of such cartridges produced daily)*(longest retention period on the cartridge) - i.e. if you produce 1 tape per day on which the longest retention is 365 days, you're going to need 365 cartridges. It can quickly become expensive if it's done wrong! We faced this even when we moved to 9840s.. for some of our longer retention migrations, we've reduced the frequency of the runs to reduce the number of tapes needed. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SMS Management Class usage
Will DCOLLECT gather data on all management classes in use from the catalog (i.e. including migrated datasets)? I suspect I have several management classes which aren't in use, inherited from someone's previous work, and I'm looking for a good safe way to clean up. Thanks Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISPF SRCHFOR and member lists
You can (and I just learned this the other week, having never thought to try it before), issue SRCHFOR string on the command line of a member listing in edit or view, and it will search each member for the string, and show you (via *Found in the Prompt column) each member where it was found. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Accessing CLIST variables in a batch job
I have a bit of a weird situation in which I'm running a clist in a step of a batch job. In this clist I'm reading an input file containing variables that I would like to use in the following steps of the same job. For example as datasetnames, PARM options etc. I hope I'm making sense. Is this possible? I'm open to any alternative options. Thanks for your help. I second Steve Comstock's suggestion to use ISPF Skeletons to submit the job, but if that is not possible, my next suggestion is to execute one Rexx exec which invokes all of the former steps of the job using LINKMVS. You will have to add all of the condition code checking, etc. in the Rexx exec to replace whatever the JCL is doing. The other option is to investigate your job scheduling package: they also can usually do job customization before submission - but typically once per day. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
GDG question
I'm pretty sure I can do this, but I'm looking for a second opinion (and you're ugly, too as my coworker said doesn't count grin). I have the assistance of a job scheduler which can substitute variables in JCL to help with this idea, so bear that in mind. I want to create twelve GDGs, prefix.whatever.JAN, prefix.whatever.FEB and so forth. Then, instead of creating prefix.whatever.JAN(+1) I want to create prefix.whatever.JAN.G(day-of-month-with-leading-zeroes)V00 with DISP=(NEW,CATLG). In essence one generation per day of month, with missing generations if we don't run that day (state holiday or whatever). Then I want to be able to read prefix.whatever.JAN as the complete set, as you can do with GDGs. Are there any holes in this theory that I'm overlooking? Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TRSMAIN question
I believe TRSMAIN uses an LZ (Lempel-Ziv?) or LZW (add Welch) algorithm of sorts, but of course the algorithm matters less than the archive format in your case. IBM's Unix Tools Toys page (I believe) has GZIP ported for Unix Systems Services. I got this to work for me: cat //'dataset_name' | gzip -c archive_name.gz Yes that is double quotes around the double slash entity, and single quotes around the fully-qualified dataset name, I am sure there may be better syntax(?) but it worked. So, if your tape data is cataloged, and you have mount authority you might be able to issue a command like that for your tapes, sit back, and wait. Once you're in gzip you can decompress it on a PC I'm sure. Oh - you might have to pipe it through iconv to get it into ASCII / Unicode before zipping it. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HTTP server and JAVA Serverpac question
1.Change SETUP.SH back to read JAVA_HOME=${JAVA_HOME:-JAVA_HOME}
2. In OMVS, type ECHO $JAVA_HOME to see if it is set; if it is then run
SETUP.SH
3. If not set, use the command EXPORT JAVA_HOME = '
/usr/lpp/java/IBI/J5.0/bin' (or one of the other suggestions depending
upon what Java you actually have), then run SETUP.SH
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Re: A Sort/ICETOOL Challenge
I could get past whatever it is that makes it so hard for me to understand the syntax of these newer features. There's an interesting project for someone: a lanuage preprocessor for SORT which accepts a different syntax, and produces SORT control statements; or a wrapper which does the same thing. Maybe a sort wizard also, to help someone build the sort they need? I don't personally have a problem with the syntax, but I know a lot of people seem to. I think, also, that we're seeing more zNextGen types who don't usually code control statements for a sort, they (I guess) set up a sort via drop-down menus and the like - which makes the learning curve of sort syntax (any mainframe sort tool, not just IBM's) a pretty big hurdle to jump. Unfortunately I don't think non-functional improvement to mainframe sorts (i.e. allowing a different syntax without adding new capabilities) is going to get a lot of new customers, so I don't know if an economic case can be made for building a new language for it. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CA-1 reblocking gotchas?
I am thinking about finally blocking my CA-1 TMC. We're not a huge shop, tape-wise, compared to many and so the block size of our TMC isn't really killing us but it would be nicer if certain queries or reports ran faster. I'm thinking that someone on IBM-MAIN must have done this already - anything major to look out for? Our CA-1 is at R11.5 . Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JOB07040 IEC130I SLFVDDIL DD STATEMENT MISSING
I would look into FILE-STATUS-CODE in FILE-CONTROL; I believe LE sets a value for this case (but don't have my COBOL manuals with me so I can't check it out). Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Remote Tape drives
There are 3490-compatible drives that attach to PCs (one example: http://tapedrives-3480to3590.com/134-04-11025) . Get one, use it to read the tape file at the PC end, then FTP the resulting file to your mainframe. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Crispin Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 12/29/2006 01:27 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Remote Tape drives Cheers John, I thought channel extenders had a finite distance , like about 250k. I think we are looking for something which would be IP based Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 plc internal virus protection system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Remote Tape drives
You'll need people at both ends for a tape drive, too - tape drives end up with all sorts of issues requiring operator intervention. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 That would work but does require that we have people at both end available. There may be a need to use this system over greater distances which would cause problems with time differences -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICC for StorageTek 9740
I don't think the connection is LU 6.2, I believe is is STK's own command protocol done through I/O to a 327x device (I could be wrong). As far as I know there is no way to replace it with an ICC (and boy would I be glad if there were!). ICC is basically 327x I/O-to-TN3270(E) protocol; you'd have to engineer the opposite on the silo end. Why we could get an IP connection on a Wolf Creek (9360) but not on a 9740 escapes me. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Jack Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 12/26/2006 12:16 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject ICC for StorageTek 9740 We're finally getting around to ICC and it works rather painlessly (or ignorance is bliss). A sticking point may be the STC silo LU62 coax connection? I'm still trying to get the STC doc'm and registering with SUN/STC/STK.. to look at the doc'm online but I'm not sure how long this will take. I didn't see anything in the archives but I've certainly missed things before. So with the preamble out of the way, has anyone used the ICC to replace the STK silo coax connection? If not, is there a mechanism to bypass the connection and then use the ICC? Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE in Tampa Florida, February 11-16, 2007
Also worthy of note (at least to me): The Personal Itinerary scheduling tool know contains the appropriate HTML and links to back-end iCalendar files which allows you to click on an icon and add a session to your Outlook, Apple iCal, or Notes calendar (some versions of Notes do better at this than others) - it should work with whatever calendaring app you use as long as that app supports the '.ics' file format (RFC 2445). From there, it's easy (usually) to sync it to your PDA or phone's calendar. Many thanks to the SHARE HQ folks who have worked hard to implement this and iron out bugs over the past couple of SHAREs. It's definitely a great improvement over the download the entire agenda to my PDA days. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Don Marquardt
Since Don was always badge #1 I've written to Smith-Bucklin / SHARE HQ to propose that hs number be retired. In these days of electronic registration probably nothing more than symbolic, but Don was one reason I stayed with SHARE in the early days; he made it great for a newcomer, and he was just an all around good guy as near as I could tell. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Tape mount / CA-1 / STK question
Before I try writing up the enhancement requests to three vendors, I thought I'd ask on the list to see if there's already a solution that I'm overlooking. Here's the problem: I created a new backup job which would use real 9840s, and modified my HSC (StorageTek) TAPEREQ statements to reflect that, but I forgot to modify CA-1's TMONSMxx statement so that the job used tapes from that scratch pool. CA-1 therefore rejected every scratch 9840 tape mounted because the tape was from a specific scratch pool and the request was not for that pool - IECTMS3 not scratch message with reason code 84. Every time one of these IECTMS3 messages happened, the tape was marked scratch in the STK CDS. This, naturally, depleted by scratch pool causing failures in other jobs as well. Yes, I have now fixed the error, but I think somewhere along the line the various pieces of software involved should be modified so that scratch pool rejections like that do not cause the tape to be marked as non-scratch in the CDS. It's not a simple case however: CA-1 rejects the tape and drives another mount. HSC sees each mount as an individual thing. Therefore, if the tape is still scratch, it might get mounted again immediately, causing the job to loop forever mounting the same tape or set of tapes (depending upon how HSC picks what the next scratch tape to mount is). Because ot that kind of issue, I'm thinking this is a three-vendor problerm: A. The original mount (IBM message) needs some sort of identifier to identify a unique mount sequence. B. CA-1 needs to use that identifier in all subsequent mounts used to satisfy the original request. C. HSC needs to avoid marking the tapes as non-scratch in this situation, but it also needs to keep track of the tapes it has already mounted for the uniquely-identified request so that it can bypass tapes it has already tried. Has anyone developed or seen a solution for this, or even things which would help? Obviously, paying enough attention to what I'm doing to avoid making these mistakes is the first thing, but I'm afraid there's not a debugging tool for the software running on the old grey matter box, so I'm looking for solutions that run on z/OS . Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape mount / CA-1 / STK question
Obviously you meant to write marked *not* scratch above. Yes I did, thanks for the correction Write procedures so you don't forget. Put a note in the TAPEREQ member to remind you to check TMONSMxx when you make changes. Good suggestions I've never run into this but I haven't worked at a shop that used TMONSMxx in a long time. I just let TAPEREQ control what type of media (virtual, physical 3490, physical 9840 etc.). So, you don't define any scratch pools in CA-1, or you just don't assign them in CA-1? Thanks, Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: record reformatting ... flowing records into each other
Ancient method - may or may not be suitable for what you're doing: Step 1: IEBGENER the 80 character records into a dataset with attributes of LRECL=80 BLKSIZE=(8240 or 16480 or 24720) Step 2: IEBGENER using the same file as input, coding LRECL=103 and the same BLKSIZE you used. IEBGENER will copy the LRECL from input, or you can code it if you want. This works because 8240, 16480, or 24720 are all multiples of 80 * 103. You may need to add some records to the end of the original dataset to make the last block come out even - I can't remember if I needed to do that or not. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape mount / CA-1 / STK question
HSC/SMC get involved at allocation so they are out of the picture at that point. All HSC knows is a tape was mounted so it marks it non-scratch in the CDS to preserve integrity. HSC would probably need to add hooks into the system like other tape management software does to do more. I know SMC influences allocation, however HSC is involved at other points. When installing you're told to make sure that the HSC subsystem follows TMS in the IEFSSNxx definitions - that's so that HSC sees messages _after_ CA-1 has dealt with them. I believe this is HSC's hook into what's happening with the tapes. Two people have mentioned that they think a tape is marked non scratch at the time it is mounted - is there anyone from StorageTek on this list that can verify that the tape is marked not scratch at mount time, as opposed to OPEN, CLOSE, EOV or the IECTMS3 occurrence? To me it would make sense to do the not scratch change at OPEN time if the DCB is opened for any kind of output function- however as Mr. Zelden says, that would involve hooks in the same place as tape management software like CA-1. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Bisync
I don't know who or what the other end is, but it would probably change if your organization offered to fund their migration from BSC to something else, than it would be to buy new boxes to support it. Many times an offer like that will cause change in a hurry. It would be cheaper in the long run for your organization than it would be to leave the status quo (consider the cost of changing their connection versus the cost of maintaining your 3745s). For one thing, who do you have that understands the protocol if there are problems? I used to have to support BSC connection to a modified RJE workstation program (IBM and our group modified the RJE package that came with JES so it had tape device support, long story I'll tell if you buy me a beer at SCIDS) and it's not pretty when it's not working! You may have someone now who understands the protocol - but he's probably close to retiring, and when he leaves then it will cost more money to get help when you need it. If this is in fact an RJE connection, I would suggest you look into Barr Systems (we use them, I can recommend them) or one of the other PC-based RJE packages. If it's something else, I'm sure that there must be a way to communicate whatever is coming over that link in another manner. If you absolutely can't get it changed, at least look at removing features and scanners from the 3745s that you don't need so you can drop maintenance costs and lower your licensing costs to a lower tier. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 I still have some 3745's and the maintenance contract is horrendous. I have no control over the far end, only my end. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Master Start Pendings
If you are using any sort of storage array where the disk volumes are virtualized (such as a Shark), define some 3390-3 volumes with just enough storage to hold your STK CDS - one little volume for each CDS. This will ensure that any reserve only affects your STK work and nothing else. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
StorageTek libraries with IP interface for z/OS?
We once had a StorageTek 9360, on which you could get a feature to have robotics control commands sent over IP instead of 3270 coax (we didn't buy it, but the feature was available). Then our lease was up, and we ended up with 9740 LMUs which only use 3270 connections. Now that we would like to get rid of our 3x74s (we use ICCs for consoles), these LMUs are a sticking point. As far as I know, the new SL8500 has an IP interface (having quite a few 9840 cartridges, it will be easier to stick with STK I think) - however on the Sun site it doesn't even say that box is compatible with z/OS or z/VM (probably an error?). Anyone know of other ways around this on current hardware? Maybe some sort of ICC interface which routes out a coax instead of TN3270E (remember, once upon a time 9370 CPUs had an inegrated 3x74 controller so this is not too far-fetched)? Barring that, can anyone verify they are running SL8500s with z/OS? Thanks Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Dynamic IPL
It's been a while since my primary responsibility was z/OS (actually it was last that during MVS/ESA days?) but I am a backup to the guy that does it. It has occurred to me that with all of the new changes to make things like linklist dynamically changeable, it might be a good idea to IPL the minimum and then have commands issued to make the system environment what you want. So, what's the mimimum going to involve? 1. Besides the basic OS, and master scheduler, what subsystems need to be initialized from the very beginning? I believe I'd start SMS so I could use SMS parameters in linklist and APF list members of PARMLIB... then JES2 of course. Anything else? 2. I know subsystem initialization routines need to be in the linklist before the subsystems start, but do they have to be there from the beginning or only when the SETSSI ADD command is invoked? 3. Assuming we've got all that right, we'd then use SET PROG= to set up linklist and APF after SMS is started, and SETSSI for things like DB2 or other things. My feeling is that, similar to the way ISPF logon procs can be cleaned up, this will result in a reliable IPL, even on our sandbox where people make changes, while giving us some more flexibility. Anyone done this? What were your pros and cons? Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Internal Reader Resources
This answer is based on the last time I looked (it may be different for current versions of JES2 that I don't have) The number of internal readers is set in JES2 by the RDINUM parameter on the INTRDR statement. That's the limit. I don't see documentation allowing RDINUM to be set by the $SET INTRDR command.As with any other SYSOUT file, the resources are in use from ALLOCATE until FREE, although I think you can use FREE=CLOSE to make sure it's freed when closed. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 I remember seeing cautions on this list that SYSOUT=(,INTRDR) be used with restraint because of resource constraints. So: o What resource(s)? o How many INTRDRs can (typically) be active concurrently? o Can an installation modify the limit? What are the costs of doing so? o Are the resource(s) occupied from ALLOCATE until FREE, or merely from OPEN until CLOSE? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MB to Cyl Conversion
You can allocate space on z/OS in MB if you want: AVGREC=M,SPACE=(1,(1000,100)) for example, allocates enough space in millions of records (AVGREC=M). Those records (for allocation purposes, this is not the LRECL) are 1 byte long. Here our primary is 1000M or approximately 1GB. I use this technique successfully, for example, when allocating an HFS for a product ported to USS where the vendor says you need xMB to install. If you like, you can do an allocation like this and use some other tool to determine the tracks or cylinders that it occupies. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
I did a report from MXG data one time which cast much of the mainframe work in (Windows) server terms (i.e. batch jobs were background tasks, , started tasks were Services etc. A little different from the server farm concept (which I also like), but still useful. It does help some PHB-types to draw comparisons. It also helps to point out to such bean-counters that often you are serving the _same_ number of customers with _one_ piece of hardware. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEBPTPCH oddity
If they're like our users, they no longer use the report but just don't bother to tell us. Someone dutifully files it on a shelf, because they don't know what that report is for, but the IT guys send it every week Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 I have no idea how long this has been wrong. I have no idea why users never let us know the report was like that. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL Question
Take the easy (?) way: modularize the program so that the business logic is in one module, invoked by dynamic CALL from either a batch wrapper or a CICS wrapper. This means the business logic doesn't need to worry about the environment, and also makes the business logic more portable: for example if you want to later invoke it from a CICS HTTP application, or from a calling program invoked in a servlet or something. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: support elements failure
For educational purposes, would you please tell us what piece of hardware failed that took out both SEs? Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 11/28/2006 02:17:07 PM: Due to a hardware failure we lost the communication with both SEs (z900). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RACF and product tape data set names
We're a CA-1 and RACF shop. You can, in CA-1, specify the FORNDSN option as NONE FORNDSN NONE Foreign DSN check Which prevents CA-1 from calling RACF for datasets specified as foreign (ACCODE=XCANORES is how we do it, some use EXPDT=98000). Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 s. 1. Management, and even auditors, might buy off on an exit which bypasses the security checks on *foreign* tapes. Or, perhaps, an exit which does that only when the job is run by someone in the sysprog group. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Friday question: in search of Rexx elegance?
I'm trying to construct some modify commands in AF/Operator, unfortunately the product for which the commands are being issued requires single quotes around some operands... Here's what I did: VARCMD1 = F $SCHED,VAR(DB2TNAME,||''||STRIP(DSN)||'') VARCMD2 = F $SCHED,VAR(DB2TRBAS,||''||STRIP(STARTRBA)||'') VARCMD3 = F $SCHED,VAR(DB2TRBAE,||''||STRIP(ENDRBA)||'') OPER ' VARCMD1 ' OPER ' VARCMD2 ' OPER ' VARCMD3 ' Note the preponderance of double and single quotes (it may help to pull the text into ISPF to look at it). The OPER command as I understand it, takes its operand within single apostrophes (for a simple example - OPER 'D T' ) I need to issue the command F $SCHED,VAR(name, 'value') with the value in single apostrophes. The above Rexx does it by using quotes around literal strings, and double apostrophes when we want to end up with a single one in the final command. The variables within the STRIP function are created in other parts of the Rexx code. Is there an easier- to-maintain, more elegant way to do this? The above code works, but I don't think it's easy to understand or maintain. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: strange request: EBNF desc of JCL?
1. Do you mean ABNF? 2. How about an XSLT to take JCL and transform it into XML; you can then go from XML to just about anything else. 3. Maye there should be an XML schema / DTD for JCL which _also_ includes scheduling information; I for one would love to see scheduler info in a standard data format, so I could export from one scheduler and import into another if management decides that some other scheduler is superior (read: the salesman offered us a cheaper price or showed us a pretty GUI) Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FAQ
I thought the FAQ for us old mainframers was called RTFM? Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSO user activity logger
Just turn on the AUDIT attribute for those users, I believe RACF will then record everything they do (that is everything which invokes RACF such as OPEN, CICS checking for access to transactions, etc.) Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Syncsort / DFSORT LPA
I just have to ask: why do would an installation need both sort products unless you're at an ISV where you have to test your product with both? Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IKJCT43A Return Code 99 - What does this mean.
As many will no doubt inform you, you probably want to (in the long run) start invoking those ISPF commands with execs that use the TSO ALTLIB and/or ISPF LIBDEF commands, so that you only have to allocate the libraries necessary for the application and not allocate every possible thing. Tom Conley (hope I got that right) has done presentations on this many times at SHARE. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Zip problems
Why not just install gzip on z/OS? There's a USS version available. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virtual Tape vs. TMM
I agree with many that a duplex VSM/VTS situation solves the DR problem but that's capital outlay that probably won't happen. That leaves us with one virtual box, and the DR solutions in that case are more problematic. I haven't yet compared the DASD cost so I will have toI accept at face value that disk in the VSM is cheaper than disk in my ESS 2105, although the VSM and the 2105 are very similar in nature and use very similar drives, so I think the difference is cost is more due to the software and interfaces running on those boxes than due to the actual media. As for CPU cost, we're not an HSM shop. I haven't had any particular CPU hawg problems with ABR that I've noticed; the worst problem I have is if I have to scan all my disks during prime time I have an initiator tied up. Regarding ML1 pollution: for TMM I don't bother with ML1, if it's unreferenced TMM it gets migrated directly to 9840. Only in a few cases would migration go to virtual tape, which we're trying to weed out because you end up doing a VTV recall to mount a tape to do an ABR recall, and that just seems a bit counterproductive sometimes. Maybe due to a use pattern specific to us (and government accounting), but about 90% of user-generated tape gets referenced a lot the first few days after creation, up to a month after creation, and then nothing. Basically they're rolling daily stuff into weekly or monthly stuff, so the daily things don't get referenced after the weekly is built, and so on. This means my TMM buffer doesn't have to be all that large. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: afoper
Sounds like they were assembled with a version of JES2 macros prior to 1.7; there were changes in this area for 1.7 I'm told (we are doing our prep for 1.7 now). This may be an AF/Operator bug, or it may be a problem with assembling a JES2 interface table . Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Virtual Tape vs. TMM
The virtual tape mount question in the SMF JWT thread prompted me to post this: We're thinking about moving off virtual tape, to Tape Mount Management. We've been kicking the idea around because: 1. We think we have the DASD to accomodate an x-day buffer of user tape 2. All of our important backups and migrations (we are FDR/ABR) go directly to 9840 3. DR of virtual tapes is kind of a pain 4. Since the advent of PC workstations and servers, users grasp the idea of online disk datasets, but don't quite grasp files on tape. Plus their DASD datasets would be available faster (no tape mounts), TMM and virtual tape are conceptually identical (to us anyway) - both use a DASD buffer to eliminate tape mounts and both use system-managed storage techniques to manage that DASD buffer. The main difference is that a VTS / VSM system uses SMS logic defined by the vendor rather than by us. We think we would use the savings from dropping the virtual tape hardware to purchase more drives and/or another STK LSM if we needed it to accomodate increased backup activity (although in our case we might not need it). Additional drives would shorten our backup and migration times, which is a plus for this scenario. So - that's _our_ thinking on the topic, but I'd be interested to hear the opinions - and we _know_ this list has them - on the topic of migrating away from virtual tape... Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virtual Tape vs. TMM
VTS disk may be cheaper than online disk, but the the total cost of the VSM box with DASD may not be cheaper than what we need to go to TMM, especially since that DASD is free - it's capacity we already own but don't use. I appreciate the point, however, and we'll try to see if we can figure out which is cheaper for us. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 10/31/2006 - Why do you send your migrations to 9804? We run CA-DISK and I don't know ABR, but you can: 1. Migrate to disk. This will roughly decrease the space, since idle space is dropped and you can also compress the data if you can spend the CPU costs. This delivers fast recall times, so you can possibly migrate more aggressively. 2. Migrate to VTS and set up rules to keep the data in the cache. This will also deliver fast recall times and at the same time, much faster than from 9840 and you can possibly migrate more aggressively. - VTS storage is cheaper than online Dasd, so from the cost point, VTS is preferred about TMM. - If your recalltimes from VTS, are a problem because they cannot be done from the cache, you might spend your money on enlarging the cache in stead of the TMM buffer. - DR is possible with a peer-to-peer VTS (VSM) configuration if you can put them far enough apart from each other and can be handled by the VTS. What is your DR procedure now, with the backups and migrations directly to 9840? - Have a look at the new TS7700 from IBM. This has enhanced the Virtual Tape concept considerably, both for normal operation and for DR. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Java/LE Tuning Advice sought
I've been out for a week, and I haven't seen this possibility posted in response to your problem, so I'm going to post it. Feel free to cross-post to MVS-OE if you think it's necessary. Check with the vendor to see what kind of I/O the application does. We once had an engineering software vendor come in here with a wonderful application that the users really wanted badly. They had seen it run on a PC or Unix box, I forget which. On MVS/ESA (at that time) it ran like a dead dog. The problem? They were doing I/O a byte at a time. On Unix/Windows filesystems that didn't matter a lot (I am not a filesystem guru, so I'll not try to explain why), but when they got to MVS, of course, it died because they were writing one-byte blocks to CKD disk. I realize that HFS will change this but there's still got to be a lot of of overhead if you're doing byte-level work on your files. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 10/27/2006 02:35 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Java/LE Tuning Advice sought Possible progress: In my open TechQA question with IBM on this topic I got a new option to specify in the Java options, and I am now recording verbosegc output in readable form. The option is -Xverbosegclog:filename where filename is a file name of one's own choosing. Maybe this is the something that another poster couldn't remember having to do? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Why does MAXPROCUSER not limit the number of FTP sessions?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe, since the process is created by the FTP server, wouldn't the process in question be created by the user ID of the FTP server? I haven't ready any FTP code, but I'm thinking it creates the process, then maybe does something like 'su' to have it run under the ID of the person logging in. IF (and it's a big if I guess) that is the case, then the maximum that applies is the one set to the user ID of the FTP server and you probably don't want to limit that one. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: StorageTek 9840 / VTSS question
Thanks to all who replied. I found it in the VTCS Admin Manual as suggested; not much there but it does say you need an ESCON director to provide connectivity from VSM and z/OS. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
StorageTek 9840 / VTSS question
I can't find this in the manual for some dumb reason (probably I'm the dumb reason but we'll let that drop...), I'm pretty sure I saw it in an STK manual but I'm not finding it. Has anyone configured a StorageTek VTSS so that the RTDs (the 9840s usually dedicated to the VSM box) are shareable with z/OS? Does it require additional ESCON cables/ channels from z/OS? If not, how is the physical connection made? Is it over the same ESCON channels used to the VSM box?? Thanks Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
