Re: DASD utilization question
This looks good to me. Unfortunately we cannot have this product yet.
I was trying to see how much of dasd is being used by the product that
was installed under Suse Linux.
Thank you;
Luis
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Barton Robinson
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:11 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DASD utilization question
would you be looking for something from a really good performance
monitor:
Screen: ESAHST2 Velocity Software - VSIVM4 ESAMON 3.808 08/04
1 of 1 LINUX HOST Storage Analysis Report NODE R* LIMIT 500
<-Utilization-> <-Storage-->
Pct Alloc
Time Server Index Size Used Full Errors Units Description
- - - -- -
07:07:00 RMTLINUX33 465 291 62.6 0 4096 /opt
329361 65.7 0 4096 /
31 372 334 89.9 0 1024 /Linux-s390
72323 100 0 1024 Cached memory
6 250 1 0.5 0 1024 Memory buffers
3 250 220 88.2 0 1024 Virtual memory
1 250 220 88.2 0 1024 Physical
memory
RH5Z3161 4 10904 2966 27.2 0 4096 /
3 409551 1.3 0 1024 Swap Space
2 497 493 99.1 0 1024 Real Memory
1 497 126 25.3 0 1024 Memory Buffers
RH5Z2161 4 10904 2966 27.2 0 4096 /
3 409551 1.3 0 1024 Swap Space
2 497 493 99.1 0 1024 Real Memory
1 497 126 25.3 0 1024 Memory Buffers
RH5Z161 4 10904 2966 27.2 0 4096 /
3 409551 1.3 0 1024 Swap Space
2 497 493 99.1 0 1024 Real Memory
1 497 126 25.3 0 1024 Memory Buffers
Ticona, Luis wrote:
> Is there any tool that will allow me to display zVM DASD utilization.
>
> I am trying to get similar to the below information but from a
zLINUX
> server running as a guest under zVM 5.4.
>
>
>
> q
> disk
>
>
> LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT
> BLK TOTAL
>
> MNT191 191 A R/W 175 3390 4096 254 8934-28
> 22566 31500
>
> MNT5E5 5E5 B R/W 9 3390 4096 131 1290-80
> 330 1620
>
> MNT2CC 2CC C R/W 5 3390 4096 60407-45
> 493900
>
> MNT51D 51D D R/W26 3390 4096 306 1575-34
> 3105 4680
>
> MNT193 193 H R/W 167 3390 4096 1093 21035-70
> 9025 30060
>
> MNT190 190 S R/O 100 3390 4096 691 14921-83
> 3079 18000
>
> MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O 250 3390 4096 1021 28225-63
> 16775 45000
>
> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 20:19:56
>
>
>
>
>
> I go into one of our zLinux servers running under zVM 5.4 and did the
> same display command and the only thing I received is just
>
> Information about their label, vdev, mode. The stat column information
> was only OS. Didn't get info for the files, used-(%), blks left and
blk
> total columns.
>
> The volumes in this server are 3390-27.
>
>
>
> The last thing I will attempt to do is dump these dasd to tape using
> INNOVATION FDRABR and then get the information about the tracks being
> dumped from the small report after the JCL job output is completed.
>
>
>
> Thank you;
>
>
>
>
>
> *Luis Ticona*
>
> Management Information Systems Division
>
> 1 Police Plaza
>
> New York, NY 10038
>
>
>
> ltic...@nypd.org or 646-610-5304
>
>
>
> cid:image001.gif@01C911AB.7C344550
>
>
>
Re: Question about Linux shutdown
SIGNAL SHUTDOWN (if configured in the Linux guest) will run the equivalent of "shutdown -h now", so as long as you provide the Linux guest time enough to execute a normal shutdown, it's safe to do that. 90 seconds may not be enough time - do a test shutdown manually to determine a rough idea of how long the system takes to shut down normally and add about 30 seconds for safety. As far as startup, the system will run the normal startup scripts when autologged, so as long as the applications are configured to be started by init normally, you're fine.
Re: Question about Linux shutdown
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Michael MacIsaac wrote: >> I would normally set the default to 600 seconds > We just moved from 5 minutes (SET SIGNAL SHUTDOWN 300) to 10 minutes (SET > SIGNAL SHUTDOWN 600) as some of our systems were not shutting down within 5 > minutes. Systems with high memory overcommit benefit from lowering LDUBUF. This makes the penguins leave in a more orderly fashion when they remain seated on the eligible list until there are sufficient resources to complete their exit. At one installation we actually did the evacuations by groups of servers rather than rush them all to the exit at the same time. Based on the monitor data you could even come up with the proper pacing. Another interesting approach is be to trigger drop_caches as part of the shutdown process and then inflate and deflate the CMM balloon according to the resources that it frees. I take donations from those with copious spare time ;-) Rob van der Heij Velocity Software http://www.velocitysoftware.com/
Re: Question about Linux shutdown
On 08/05/2011 06:18 AM, Michael MacIsaac wrote: > you'll be waiting over 9 hours for a machine to just be logged off. *up to* more than 9 hours, right? If the machine shuts down in two minutes for example, won't it halt and signal back to z/VM that it's done? (whether it then gets logged off is another matter) Yes, of course. But his question was related to if there's a problem during shutdown and a termination process hangs or something sinister like that. -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: Question about Linux shutdown
> you'll be waiting over 9 hours for a machine to just be logged off. *up to* more than 9 hours, right? If the machine shuts down in two minutes for example, won't it halt and signal back to z/VM that it's done? (whether it then gets logged off is another matter) > I would normally set the default to 600 seconds We just moved from 5 minutes (SET SIGNAL SHUTDOWN 300) to 10 minutes (SET SIGNAL SHUTDOWN 600) as some of our systems were not shutting down within 5 minutes. "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061
Re: Question about Linux shutdown
The timer can be set up to 32767 seconds. You probably don't want to go that high in practice, you'll be waiting over 9 hours for a machine to just be logged off. Set the timer for normal shutdown times with some extra. If they fail to terminate cleanly, investigate the cause and resolve the problem. I would normally set the default to 600 seconds, that worked the vast majority of the time. Of course, different software has different needs. On 08/05/2011 03:47 AM, Lu GL Gao wrote: > > Thanks! Because we have many applications and softwares on linux, maybe some > of them > have pending stop, or maybe some have problem to fail stop. Even though I set > a big > timer, it is possible that system shutdown is prior to software's normal > stop. How to > solve this situation? > > > Best Regards! > > Gao Lu (高路) > I/T Specialist > Global Technology Services > IBM Global Services (China) Company Limited. > Address:18/F, Pangu Plaza, No.27, Central North 4th Ring Road, Chaoyang > District, > Beijing, 100101 > 地址：北京市朝阳区北四环中路27号盘古大观写字楼18层，100101 > BeiJing 100027, PRC > Cell Phone: 15001327619 > Internet ID: lu...@cn.ibm.com > > Inactive hide details for Rich Smrcina ---2011-08-05 16:28:28---CP SIGNAL > SHUTDOWN > causes the standard Linux shutdown process tRich Smrcina ---2011-08-05 > 16:28:28---CP > SIGNAL SHUTDOWN causes the standard Linux shutdown process to be executed, > through > > *Rich Smrcina * > Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > > 2011-08-05 16:28 > Please respond to > The IBM z/VM Operating System > > > > To > > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > cc > > > Subject > > Re: Question about Linux shutdown > > > > > CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN causes the standard Linux shutdown process to be executed, > through > the init scripts. > > If the software you mention contains quiesce or shutdown commands in the init > scripts, > it will be executed with SIGNAL SHUTDOWN. > > The big question then is of the time frame. Is 90 seconds enough time to > guarantee that > the software is all shutdown before CP pulls the rug out from under the > virtual machine? > THAT is what you need to make sure of. Your shutdown timer may have to be > changed. > > The shutdown timer can be set system wide, so that it does not need to be > specified on > each command. > > On 08/05/2011 12:42 AM, Lu GL Gao wrote: > > > > If many softwares run on our z/Linux such as OCFS2, OMEGAMON XE Agent and > > DB2, does > > command 'CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN TSTLNX1 WITHIN 90' impacts those softwares? > > > > I mean, because thoes software were not stop by normal steps but shutdown > > linux > > directly, do thoes softwares will start normally once z/Linux boots again? > > > > The reason why I ask this question is that I need to automatically backup > > linux system > > by Operation Manager for z/VM, before backing-up, linux should be > > shutdowned. I just > > wonder how to automatically stop softwares running on linux to be backup. > > > > > > > > Best Regards! > > > > Gao Lu (高路) > > I/T Specialist > > Global Technology Services > > IBM Global Services (China) Company Limited. > > Address:18/F, Pangu Plaza, No.27, Central North 4th Ring Road, Chaoyang > > District, > > Beijing, 100101 > > 地址：北京市朝阳区北四环中路27号盘古大观写字楼18层，100101 > > BeiJing 100027, PRC > > Cell Phone: 15001327619 > > Internet ID: lu...@cn.ibm.com > > > > > -- > Rich Smrcina > Velocity Software, Inc. > http://www.velocitysoftware.com > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY > -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: Question about Linux shutdown
Thanks! Because we have many applications and softwares on linux, maybe some of them have pending stop, or maybe some have problem to fail stop. Even though I set a big timer, it is possible that system shutdown is prior to software's normal stop. How to solve this situation? Best Regards! Gao Lu (高路) I/T Specialist Global Technology Services IBM Global Services (China) Company Limited. Address:18/F, Pangu Plaza, No.27, Central North 4th Ring Road, Chaoyang District, Beijing, 100101 地址：北京市朝阳区北四环中路27号盘古大观写字楼18层，100101 BeiJing 100027, PRC Cell Phone: 15001327619 Internet ID: lu...@cn.ibm.com Rich Smrcina To Sent by: The IBM IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU z/VM Operating cc System Re: Question about Linux shutdown 2011-08-05 16:28 Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN causes the standard Linux shutdown process to be executed, through the init scripts. If the software you mention contains quiesce or shutdown commands in the init scripts, it will be executed with SIGNAL SHUTDOWN. The big question then is of the time frame. Is 90 seconds enough time to guarantee that the software is all shutdown before CP pulls the rug out from under the virtual machine? THAT is what you need to make sure of. Your shutdown timer may have to be changed. The shutdown timer can be set system wide, so that it does not need to be specified on each command. On 08/05/2011 12:42 AM, Lu GL Gao wrote: > > If many softwares run on our z/Linux such as OCFS2, OMEGAMON XE Agent and DB2, does > command 'CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN TSTLNX1 WITHIN 90' impacts those softwares? > > I mean, because thoes software were not stop by normal steps but shutdown linux > directly, do thoes softwares will start normally once z/Linux boots again? > > The reason why I ask this question is that I need to automatically backup linux system > by Operation Manager for z/VM, before backing-up, linux should be shutdowned. I just > wonder how to automatically stop softwares running on linux to be backup. > > > > Best Regards! > > Gao Lu (高路) > I/T Specialist > Global Technology Services > IBM Global Services (China) Company Limited. > Address:18/F, Pangu Plaza, No.27, Central North 4th Ring Road, Chaoyang District, > Beijing, 100101 > 地址：北京市朝阳区北四环中路27号盘古大观写字楼18层，100101 > BeiJing 100027, PRC > Cell Phone: 15001327619 > Internet ID: lu...@cn.ibm.com > -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: Question about Linux shutdown
CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN causes the standard Linux shutdown process to be executed, through the init scripts. If the software you mention contains quiesce or shutdown commands in the init scripts, it will be executed with SIGNAL SHUTDOWN. The big question then is of the time frame. Is 90 seconds enough time to guarantee that the software is all shutdown before CP pulls the rug out from under the virtual machine? THAT is what you need to make sure of. Your shutdown timer may have to be changed. The shutdown timer can be set system wide, so that it does not need to be specified on each command. On 08/05/2011 12:42 AM, Lu GL Gao wrote: > > If many softwares run on our z/Linux such as OCFS2, OMEGAMON XE Agent and > DB2, does > command 'CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN TSTLNX1 WITHIN 90' impacts those softwares? > > I mean, because thoes software were not stop by normal steps but shutdown > linux > directly, do thoes softwares will start normally once z/Linux boots again? > > The reason why I ask this question is that I need to automatically backup > linux system > by Operation Manager for z/VM, before backing-up, linux should be shutdowned. > I just > wonder how to automatically stop softwares running on linux to be backup. > > > > Best Regards! > > Gao Lu (高路) > I/T Specialist > Global Technology Services > IBM Global Services (China) Company Limited. > Address:18/F, Pangu Plaza, No.27, Central North 4th Ring Road, Chaoyang > District, > Beijing, 100101 > 地址：北京市朝阳区北四环中路27号盘古大观写字楼18层，100101 > BeiJing 100027, PRC > Cell Phone: 15001327619 > Internet ID: lu...@cn.ibm.com > -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Question about Linux shutdown
If many softwares run on our z/Linux such as OCFS2, OMEGAMON XE Agent and DB2, does command 'CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN TSTLNX1 WITHIN 90' impacts those softwares? I mean, because thoes software were not stop by normal steps but shutdown linux directly, do thoes softwares will start normally once z/Linux boots again? The reason why I ask this question is that I need to automatically backup linux system by Operation Manager for z/VM, before backing-up, linux should be shutdowned. I just wonder how to automatically stop softwares running on linux to be backup. Best Regards! Gao Lu (高路) I/T Specialist Global Technology Services IBM Global Services (China) Company Limited. Address:18/F, Pangu Plaza, No.27, Central North 4th Ring Road, Chaoyang District, Beijing, 100101 地址：北京市朝阳区北四环中路27号盘古大观写字楼18层，100101 BeiJing 100027, PRC Cell Phone: 15001327619 Internet ID: lu...@cn.ibm.com
Re: DASD utilization question
would you be looking for something from a really good performance monitor: Screen: ESAHST2 Velocity Software - VSIVM4 ESAMON 3.808 08/04 1 of 1 LINUX HOST Storage Analysis Report NODE R* LIMIT 500 <-Utilization-> <-Storage--> Pct Alloc Time Server Index Size Used Full Errors Units Description - - - -- - 07:07:00 RMTLINUX33 465 291 62.6 0 4096 /opt 329361 65.7 0 4096 / 31 372 334 89.9 0 1024 /Linux-s390 72323 100 0 1024 Cached memory 6 250 1 0.5 0 1024 Memory buffers 3 250 220 88.2 0 1024 Virtual memory 1 250 220 88.2 0 1024 Physical memory RH5Z3161 4 10904 2966 27.2 0 4096 / 3 409551 1.3 0 1024 Swap Space 2 497 493 99.1 0 1024 Real Memory 1 497 126 25.3 0 1024 Memory Buffers RH5Z2161 4 10904 2966 27.2 0 4096 / 3 409551 1.3 0 1024 Swap Space 2 497 493 99.1 0 1024 Real Memory 1 497 126 25.3 0 1024 Memory Buffers RH5Z161 4 10904 2966 27.2 0 4096 / 3 409551 1.3 0 1024 Swap Space 2 497 493 99.1 0 1024 Real Memory 1 497 126 25.3 0 1024 Memory Buffers Ticona, Luis wrote: Is there any tool that will allow me to display zVM DASD utilization. I am trying to get similar to the below information but from a zLINUX server running as a guest under zVM 5.4. q disk LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT BLK TOTAL MNT191 191 A R/W 175 3390 4096 254 8934-28 22566 31500 MNT5E5 5E5 B R/W 9 3390 4096 131 1290-80 330 1620 MNT2CC 2CC C R/W 5 3390 4096 60407-45 493900 MNT51D 51D D R/W26 3390 4096 306 1575-34 3105 4680 MNT193 193 H R/W 167 3390 4096 1093 21035-70 9025 30060 MNT190 190 S R/O 100 3390 4096 691 14921-83 3079 18000 MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O 250 3390 4096 1021 28225-63 16775 45000 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 20:19:56 I go into one of our zLinux servers running under zVM 5.4 and did the same display command and the only thing I received is just Information about their label, vdev, mode. The stat column information was only OS. Didn’t get info for the files, used-(%), blks left and blk total columns. The volumes in this server are 3390-27. The last thing I will attempt to do is dump these dasd to tape using INNOVATION FDRABR and then get the information about the tracks being dumped from the small report after the JCL job output is completed. Thank you; *Luis Ticona* Management Information Systems Division 1 Police Plaza New York, NY 10038 ltic...@nypd.org or 646-610-5304 cid:image001.gif@01C911AB.7C344550
Re: DASD utilization question
Linux and CMS use disks completely differently..Linux will use a minidisk as a partition either directly (such as /dev/dasda1 being mounted as a filesystem) -- or as part of an LVM volume group. It also may not use the minidisk at all.. On Linux -- a 'df -h' command should show you usage of the mounted filesystems. To relate that to a minidisk is possible if the minidisk is a single partition and mounted -- but much more difficult if it's part of an LVM volume group. There are various commands you can issue from Linux to figure it all out: - lsdasd tells you what minidisk address is assigned to which dasd device (e.g. dasda, dasdb, etc) - vgdisplay -v will lists what dasd partitions make are part of a volume group Relate those things to what 'df' shows and you can 'maybe' figure out how full each disk is.. but I would not approach it this way... You want to view usage at the Linux level - and not the physical disk level. The way CMS uses disks, it makes sense -- but Linux can use them in a variety of ways. Scott Rohling On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Ticona, Luis wrote: > Is there any tool that will allow me to display zVM DASD utilization. > > > I am trying to get similar to the below information but from a zLINUX > server running as a guest under zVM 5.4. > > ** ** > > q > disk > > > LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT BLK > TOTAL > > MNT191 191 A R/W 175 3390 4096 254 8934-28 22566 > 31500 > > MNT5E5 5E5 B R/W 9 3390 4096 131 1290-80330 > 1620 > > MNT2CC 2CC C R/W 5 3390 4096 60407-45 > 493900 > > MNT51D 51D D R/W26 3390 4096 306 1575-34 3105 > 4680 > > MNT193 193 H R/W 167 3390 4096 1093 21035-70 9025 > 30060 > > MNT190 190 S R/O 100 3390 4096 691 14921-83 3079 > 18000 > > MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O 250 3390 4096 1021 28225-63 16775 > 45000 > > Ready; T=0.01/0.01 20:19:56 > > ** ** > > ** ** > > I go into one of our zLinux servers running under zVM 5.4 and did the same > display command and the only thing I received is just > > Information about their label, vdev, mode. The stat column information was > only OS. Didn’t get info for the files, used-(%), blks left and blk total > columns. > > The volumes in this server are 3390-27. > > ** ** > > The last thing I will attempt to do is dump these dasd to tape using > INNOVATION FDRABR and then get the information about the tracks being dumped > from the small report after the JCL job output is completed. > > ** ** > > Thank you; > > > > ** ** > > *Luis Ticona* > > Management Information Systems Division > > 1 Police Plaza > > New York, NY 10038 > > ** ** > > ltic...@nypd.org or 646-610-5304 > > ** ** > > [image: cid:image001.gif@01C911AB.7C344550] > > ** ** >
Re: DASD utilization question
Hi, Luis. I think the Linux command that you are looking for is the "df" commandit will show for each mounted file system, how much space is allocated, how much is free and how much remains. Use the "-h" option to get the returned values in terms that are easy to remember...MB, GB, etc., instead of block counts. DJ On 8/3/2011 7:30 PM, Ticona, Luis wrote: Is there any tool that will allow me to display zVM DASD utilization. I am trying to get similar to the below information but from a zLINUX server running as a guest under zVM 5.4. q disk LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT BLK TOTAL MNT191 191 A R/W 175 3390 4096 254 8934-28 22566 31500 MNT5E5 5E5 B R/W 9 3390 4096 131 1290-80 330 1620 MNT2CC 2CC C R/W 5 3390 4096 60 407-45 493 900 MNT51D 51D D R/W 26 3390 4096 306 1575-34 3105 4680 MNT193 193 H R/W 167 3390 4096 1093 21035-70 9025 30060 MNT190 190 S R/O 100 3390 4096 691 14921-83 3079 18000 MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O 250 3390 4096 1021 28225-63 16775 45000 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 20:19:56 I go into one of our zLinux servers running under zVM 5.4 and did the same display command and the only thing I received is just Information about their label, vdev, mode. The stat column information was only OS. Didn’t get info for the files, used-(%), blks left and blk total columns. The volumes in this server are 3390-27. The last thing I will attempt to do is dump these dasd to tape using INNOVATION FDRABR and then get the information about the tracks being dumped from the small report after the JCL job output is completed. Thank you; *Luis Ticona * Management Information Systems Division 1 Police Plaza New York, NY 10038 ltic...@nypd.org or 646-610-5304 cid:image001.gif@01C911AB.7C344550
DASD utilization question
Is there any tool that will allow me to display zVM DASD utilization. I am trying to get similar to the below information but from a zLINUX server running as a guest under zVM 5.4. q disk LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT BLK TOTAL MNT191 191 A R/W 175 3390 4096 254 8934-28 22566 31500 MNT5E5 5E5 B R/W 9 3390 4096 131 1290-80330 1620 MNT2CC 2CC C R/W 5 3390 4096 60407-45493 900 MNT51D 51D D R/W26 3390 4096 306 1575-34 3105 4680 MNT193 193 H R/W 167 3390 4096 1093 21035-70 9025 30060 MNT190 190 S R/O 100 3390 4096 691 14921-83 3079 18000 MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O 250 3390 4096 1021 28225-63 16775 45000 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 20:19:56 I go into one of our zLinux servers running under zVM 5.4 and did the same display command and the only thing I received is just Information about their label, vdev, mode. The stat column information was only OS. Didn't get info for the files, used-(%), blks left and blk total columns. The volumes in this server are 3390-27. The last thing I will attempt to do is dump these dasd to tape using INNOVATION FDRABR and then get the information about the tracks being dumped from the small report after the JCL job output is completed. Thank you; Luis Ticona Management Information Systems Division 1 Police Plaza New York, NY 10038 ltic...@nypd.org or 646-610-5304 cid:image001.gif@01C911AB.7C344550
Re: page pack question
Another suggestion that no one seems to have mentioned, is to define different system names in the CONFIG file, one for the 1st level CPUID and a different one for 2nd level. Then you can specify different OWNED lists, by system name. I do this for a few items in my config, such as defining some hardware and the HOST command only for a 2nd level system. Shimon On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: > Yea, the only thing is that once I add them as CPOWNED on my 6.1 system > (which I'd have to do while up on level 2), I would not be able to ipl it > second level if I had to go back to 5.4. Then what would I do? > > Anne D. Crabtree > System Programmer > WV Office of Technology Data Center > 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > Charleston, WV 25305 > (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > (304)558-1441 fax > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On > Behalf Of Rich Smrcina > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: page pack question > > As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. > > On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: > > > > I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label > as page packs > > to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 > page packs when > > I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I > usually define > > new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) > > > > Anne D. Crabtree > > > > System Programmer > > > > WV Office of Technology Data Center > > > > 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > > > > Charleston, WV 25305 > > > > (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > > > > (304)558-1441 fax > > > > > -- > Rich Smrcina > Velocity Software, Inc. > http://www.velocitysoftware.com > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY >
Re: page pack question
As CP can page in SPOOL space, your secondlevel system may even start without any page pack attached to it. It just depends on how much (and hwo large) guests you'd start in the secondlevel test system. 2011/7/12 Crabtree, Anne D > Ok, I think I'll go that route... and as someone else suggested, I can > always access my 6.1 system config from my 5.4 system if I needed to change > it... > > Anne D. Crabtree > System Programmer > WV Office of Technology Data Center > 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > Charleston, WV 25305 > (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > (304)558-1441 fax > > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On > Behalf Of Rich Smrcina > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:07 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: page pack question > > That's reasonable. As long as the 5.4 system isn't using them at the same > time. That > would be 'bad'. > > On 07/12/2011 09:53 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: > > How about I bring up 6.1 with the couple of 6.1 page packs I can define > and then add the 5.4 ones on the fly? (attach them to system, define > cpowned, etc) That way they would not be in the system config and I could > still bring 6.1 up on second level if necessary. > > > > Anne D. Crabtree > > System Programmer > > WV Office of Technology Data Center > > 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > > Charleston, WV 25305 > > (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > > (304)558-1441 fax > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On > Behalf Of Rich Smrcina > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Subject: Re: page pack question > > > > As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. > > > > On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: > >> I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label > as page packs > >> to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 > page packs when > >> I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I > usually define > >> new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) > >> > >> Anne D. Crabtree > >> > >> System Programmer > >> > >> WV Office of Technology Data Center > >> > >> 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > >> > >> Charleston, WV 25305 > >> > >> (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > >> > >> (304)558-1441 fax > >> > > > > > -- > Rich Smrcina > Velocity Software, Inc. > http://www.velocitysoftware.com > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: page pack question
Ok, I think I'll go that route... and as someone else suggested, I can always access my 6.1 system config from my 5.4 system if I needed to change it... Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question That's reasonable. As long as the 5.4 system isn't using them at the same time. That would be 'bad'. On 07/12/2011 09:53 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: > How about I bring up 6.1 with the couple of 6.1 page packs I can define and > then add the 5.4 ones on the fly? (attach them to system, define cpowned, > etc) That way they would not be in the system config and I could still bring > 6.1 up on second level if necessary. > > Anne D. Crabtree > System Programmer > WV Office of Technology Data Center > 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > Charleston, WV 25305 > (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > (304)558-1441 fax > > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On > Behalf Of Rich Smrcina > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: page pack question > > As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. > > On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: >> I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as >> page packs >> to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page >> packs when >> I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I >> usually define >> new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) >> >> Anne D. Crabtree >> >> System Programmer >> >> WV Office of Technology Data Center >> >> 1900 Kanawha Blvd East >> >> Charleston, WV 25305 >> >> (304)558-5914 ext 58292 >> >> (304)558-1441 fax >> > -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: page pack question
Hi, Anne. If your second level system is only to maintenance (5.4 or 6.1, no matter) , you don't need a lot of page packs. Define a virtual machine with 256G and one mdisk (not full pack) to PAGE, formated with the same volser as the fullpack. When IPLed on first level, it can take the full packs needed. Caution: this tip it's not valid for SPOOL, only to PAGE volumes. SPOOL needs a more elaborated solution. Regards, __ Clovis From: Tom Huegel To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 12/07/2011 12:04 Subject: Re: page pack question Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System You need to beable to access your 6.1 CF! disk from youe 1st level 5.4 machine to change the SYSTEM CONFIG file back to what you need for the 2nd level IPL... At least that is what I would do. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: Yea, the only thing is that once I add them as CPOWNED on my 6.1 system (which I'd have to do while up on level 2), I would not be able to ipl it second level if I had to go back to 5.4. Then what would I do? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: > > I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs > to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when > I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define > new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) > > Anne D. Crabtree > > System Programmer > > WV Office of Technology Data Center > > 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > > Charleston, WV 25305 > > (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > > (304)558-1441 fax > -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: page pack question
That's reasonable. As long as the 5.4 system isn't using them at the same time. That would be 'bad'. On 07/12/2011 09:53 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: How about I bring up 6.1 with the couple of 6.1 page packs I can define and then add the 5.4 ones on the fly? (attach them to system, define cpowned, etc) That way they would not be in the system config and I could still bring 6.1 up on second level if necessary. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: page pack question
You need to beable to access your 6.1 CF! disk from youe 1st level 5.4 machine to change the SYSTEM CONFIG file back to what you need for the 2nd level IPL... At least that is what I would do. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: > Yea, the only thing is that once I add them as CPOWNED on my 6.1 system > (which I'd have to do while up on level 2), I would not be able to ipl it > second level if I had to go back to 5.4. Then what would I do? > > Anne D. Crabtree > System Programmer > WV Office of Technology Data Center > 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > Charleston, WV 25305 > (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > (304)558-1441 fax > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On > Behalf Of Rich Smrcina > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: page pack question > > As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. > > On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: > > > > I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label > as page packs > > to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 > page packs when > > I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I > usually define > > new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) > > > > Anne D. Crabtree > > > > System Programmer > > > > WV Office of Technology Data Center > > > > 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > > > > Charleston, WV 25305 > > > > (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > > > > (304)558-1441 fax > > > > > -- > Rich Smrcina > Velocity Software, Inc. > http://www.velocitysoftware.com > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY >
Re: page pack question
Can't you go ahead and put them in your CP OWNED list and as long as they are not attached to the 2nd level id, you will get an error that they can't be found but the system will still come up as long as you still have at least one pack that you are using at 2nd now. Bob Bates robert.ba...@wellsfargo.com This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Crabtree, Anne D Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:54 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question How about I bring up 6.1 with the couple of 6.1 page packs I can define and then add the 5.4 ones on the fly? (attach them to system, define cpowned, etc) That way they would not be in the system config and I could still bring 6.1 up on second level if necessary. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: > > I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as > page packs > to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page > packs when > I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually > define > new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) > > Anne D. Crabtree > > System Programmer > > WV Office of Technology Data Center > > 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > > Charleston, WV 25305 > > (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > > (304)558-1441 fax > -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: page pack question
How about I bring up 6.1 with the couple of 6.1 page packs I can define and then add the 5.4 ones on the fly? (attach them to system, define cpowned, etc) That way they would not be in the system config and I could still bring 6.1 up on second level if necessary. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: > > I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as > page packs > to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page > packs when > I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually > define > new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) > > Anne D. Crabtree > > System Programmer > > WV Office of Technology Data Center > > 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > > Charleston, WV 25305 > > (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > > (304)558-1441 fax > -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: page pack question
Yea, the only thing is that once I add them as CPOWNED on my 6.1 system (which I'd have to do while up on level 2), I would not be able to ipl it second level if I had to go back to 5.4. Then what would I do? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: > > I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as > page packs > to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page > packs when > I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually > define > new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) > > Anne D. Crabtree > > System Programmer > > WV Office of Technology Data Center > > 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > > Charleston, WV 25305 > > (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > > (304)558-1441 fax > -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: page pack question
On Tuesday, 07/12/2011 at 10:38 EDT, "Crabtree, Anne D" wrote: > I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don?t have enough mod 3?s to label as > page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can?t use the > 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do > but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) You can use the same paging and T-disk volumes. Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: page pack question
As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don’t have enough mod 3’s to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can’t use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: page pack question
Hi, Anne. Yes, you can use the old 5.4 page packs when you IPL 6.1 on first level. Just make usre you add them to 6.1's SYSTEM CONFIG file as cpowned. DJ On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: > I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don’t have enough mod 3’s to > label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I > can’t use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this > is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie > 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) > > > > Anne D. Crabtree > > System Programmer > > WV Office of Technology Data Center > > 1900 Kanawha Blvd East > > Charleston, WV 25305 > > (304)558-5914 ext 58292 > > (304)558-1441 fax > > > -- Dave Jones V/Soft Software www.vsoft-software.com Houston, TX 281.578.7544
page pack question
I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax
Re: EDEVICE Question
For scalability, no. In fact, since the I/O is per channel and not per subchannel, you gain little from spearding EDEVs across subchannels. At one point early in a prior life, I tried pinning each EDEV on its own pair of FCP subchans. Was a pain! -- R; <>< Velocity Software http://www.velocitysoftware.com/ On Jun 30, 2011 10:02 AM, "John Hanley" wrote:
Re: EDEVICE Question
Thanks Daniel. That's kinda what I thought. And these are not even NPIV'ed (just 1 LPAR). John Hanley (804) 786-7823 Daniel Bewley ---06/30/2011 10:12:51 AM---Daniel Bewley Daniel Bewley Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 06/30/2011 10:12 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: EDEVICE Question Hi John, I can't speak as to what's absolutely best, but I can tell you that in our environment we use a single set of multipathed FCP subchannels with access to multiple LUNs for our EDEVs. The EDEVs are then shared between 60 or so guests per LPAR without any issue. -Daniel Bewley On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:01 AM, John Hanley <jhan...@courts.state.va.us> wrote: Hello, When setting up EDEVs, is it preferable to use a unique FCP subchannel per EDEV or to use a single FCP subchannel for multiple EDEVs? I multi path each EDEV across all my FCP CHPIDS and they are used in a single LPAR, so I'm not sure it matters? Thanks. John Hanley
Re: EDEVICE Question
Hi John, I can't speak as to what's absolutely best, but I can tell you that in our environment we use a single set of multipathed FCP subchannels with access to multiple LUNs for our EDEVs. The EDEVs are then shared between 60 or so guests per LPAR without any issue. -Daniel Bewley On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:01 AM, John Hanley wrote: > Hello, > When setting up EDEVs, is it preferable to use a unique FCP subchannel > per EDEV or to use a single FCP subchannel for multiple EDEVs? > I multi path each EDEV across all my FCP CHPIDS and they are used in a > single LPAR, so I'm not sure it matters? > Thanks. > > John Hanley >
EDEVICE Question
Hello, When setting up EDEVs, is it preferable to use a unique FCP subchannel per EDEV or to use a single FCP subchannel for multiple EDEVs? I multi path each EDEV across all my FCP CHPIDS and they are used in a single LPAR, so I'm not sure it matters? Thanks. John Hanley
Re: Question on SHUTDOWNTIME
No z/OS vols here. They aren't even on that same box anymore let alone genned for VM lpars to get at them. Good security practice I believe ;) So there's not anything I can offline that isn't already. We could lump various VM systems together, but then the performance guys will get mad about the I/O patterns not being spread across all the LCUs that are defined. I guess we'll up it. We've got a PMR open for support advice as well. Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Question on SHUTDOWNTIME On Thursday, 06/23/2011 at 07:06 EDT, Marcy Cortes wrote: > The default is 30 seconds (Q SHUTDOWNTIME) for the CP's portion of the shutdown > process. > I recall hearing that is good default. > > We are seeing systems exceed that - 33 seconds in this one that seemed to come > with bonus messages (that is our SW seemed to capture the HCPWRP963I's on this > one). > > > Are others seeing that? In my experience IPL and SHUTDOWN times are directly related to the number of devices. Any device you don't use should be kept in OFFLINE_AT_IPL. That will drastically improve startup/shutdown. On one system, I went from 44 seconds to about 12 by simply getting rid of those pesky shouldn't-be-in-the-I/O-configuration-anyway MVS volumes. Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: Question on SHUTDOWNTIME
On Thursday, 06/23/2011 at 07:06 EDT, Marcy Cortes wrote: > The default is 30 seconds (Q SHUTDOWNTIME) for the CP's portion of the shutdown > process. > I recall hearing that is good default. > > We are seeing systems exceed that - 33 seconds in this one that seemed to come > with bonus messages (that is our SW seemed to capture the HCPWRP963I's on this > one). > > > Are others seeing that? In my experience IPL and SHUTDOWN times are directly related to the number of devices. Any device you don't use should be kept in OFFLINE_AT_IPL. That will drastically improve startup/shutdown. On one system, I went from 44 seconds to about 12 by simply getting rid of those pesky shouldn't-be-in-the-I/O-configuration-anyway MVS volumes. Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: Question on SHUTDOWNTIME
Ah, I wonder if it is a function of number of devices! Prod has 1800+ DASD vols now, each with a PPRC secondary - so approx 3700 addresses. That would explain why our tiny systems here have seen it too - they have access to the whole farm. We'll see what Endicott says tomorrow I guess. It looks like 16 seconds of it is in the mystery step between processors offline and STEP USOAC. There are 7 processors here though and 5 go offline, FWIW. Thanks Dennis! Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 4:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Question on SHUTDOWNTIME I think I saw one of our systems take 78 seconds to shut down recently, but AFAIK, we don't have software to capture the shutdown messages. If I'm thinking of the right system, it has over 5000 devices. Dennis O'Brien "I want to express my gratitude to my family. To my mother and father who instilled in me the values that have carried me this far." -- former U.S. Representative Anthony Wiener, during his resignation speech -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 16:05 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Question on SHUTDOWNTIME The default is 30 seconds (Q SHUTDOWNTIME) for the CP's portion of the shutdown process. I recall hearing that is good default. We are seeing systems exceed that - 33 seconds in this one that seemed to come with bonus messages (that is our SW seemed to capture the HCPWRP963I's on this one). Are others seeing that? Here's an example. MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:00-SYSTEM 000%49 Users VM:Operator on OPERATOR(ME8VM)Sun 19Jun11 01:56 01:51:48 HCPSHU6018I The processor controller has sent a shutdown signal with a timeout interval of 300 seconds 01:51:48 HCPSHU6019I Guests may not have time to shut down because VM SHUTDOWN requires 30 seconds 01:51:48 HCPSIG2113I User VMSERVU has reported successful termination 01:51:48 HCPSIG2113I User ME8SFS has reported successful termination 01:52:18 HCPSIG2113I User ME8PROX2 has reported successful termination MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:19-01:56:19 Processor 01 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:19-01:56:19 Processor 02 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:20-01:56:20 Processor 03 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:20-01:56:20 Processor 04 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:21-01:56:21 Processor 05 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:37- 01:56:37 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP USOAC - JOURNAL USER TERMINATION MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:38- 01:56:38 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MFRSD - TERMINATE HARDWARE LOADER MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:38- 01:56:38 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP APISD - TERMINATE OTHER PROCESSORS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:39- 01:56:39 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ENASD - DISABLE TERMINAL DEVICES MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:40- 01:56:39 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP XLGIN - CLEAR CROSS-SYSTEM LINK FLAGS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:40- 01:56:40 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ISHDN - SHUT DOWN I/O SUBSYSTEM MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:41- 01:56:41 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SVACV - ACTIVATE TERMINATION SAVE AREAS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:41- 01:56:41 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MXYTM - STOP CHANNEL PATH MEASUREMENT FACILIT MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:42- 01:56:42 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP CHMOF - DISABLE CHANNEL MEASUREMENT MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:43- 01:56:42 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ISHDA - DISABLE ALL DEVICES MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:48- 01:56:47 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP CKPSH - TAKE A CHECKPOINT MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:49- 01:56:49 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP OPRCK - SAVE OPERATOR CONSOLE LIST MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:50- 01:56:49 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MCWMD - DETERMINE MACHINE CHECK STATUS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:50- 01:56:50 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SDVRS - RESET IBM DASD CU CHARACTERISTICS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:51- HCPWRP962I VM SHUTDOWN COMPLETED IN 33 SEC 01:56:51 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SVADV - DEACTIVATE TERMINATION SAVE AREAS HCPWRP962I VM SHUTDOWN COMPLETED IN 33 SEC MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:52- 01:56:51 HCPWRP961W SYSTEM SHUTDOWN COMPLETE Marcy -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender,
Re: Question on SHUTDOWNTIME
It's running Linux. GDPS proxy server for hyperswapping. I'm OK with him taking 30 seconds - the whole 4:30 is attributed to RMSMASTR (see other email) It's the 1:56:51 - 1:56:19 - 32 seconds (or 33 it reports ) that exceeds what SHUTDOWNTIME is set to in this case. It looks like a default we need to change if everything is operating normally. Marcy From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 4:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Question on SHUTDOWNTIME What's ME8PROX2? That seems to be taking a full 30 seconds to terminate.. Scott Rohling On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Marcy Cortes mailto:marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com>> wrote: The default is 30 seconds (Q SHUTDOWNTIME) for the CP's portion of the shutdown process. I recall hearing that is good default. We are seeing systems exceed that - 33 seconds in this one that seemed to come with bonus messages (that is our SW seemed to capture the HCPWRP963I's on this one). Are others seeing that? Here's an example. MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:00-SYSTEM 000%49 Users VM:Operator on OPERATOR(ME8VM)Sun 19Jun11 01:56 01:51:48 HCPSHU6018I The processor controller has sent a shutdown signal with a timeout interval of 300 seconds 01:51:48 HCPSHU6019I Guests may not have time to shut down because VM SHUTDOWN requires 30 seconds 01:51:48 HCPSIG2113I User VMSERVU has reported successful termination 01:51:48 HCPSIG2113I User ME8SFS has reported successful termination 01:52:18 HCPSIG2113I User ME8PROX2 has reported successful termination MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:19-01:56:19 Processor 01 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:19-01:56:19 Processor 02 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:20-01:56:20 Processor 03 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:20-01:56:20 Processor 04 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:21-01:56:21 Processor 05 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:37- 01:56:37 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP USOAC - JOURNAL USER TERMINATION MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:38- 01:56:38 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MFRSD - TERMINATE HARDWARE LOADER MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:38- 01:56:38 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP APISD - TERMINATE OTHER PROCESSORS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:39- 01:56:39 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ENASD - DISABLE TERMINAL DEVICES MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:40- 01:56:39 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP XLGIN - CLEAR CROSS-SYSTEM LINK FLAGS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:40- 01:56:40 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ISHDN - SHUT DOWN I/O SUBSYSTEM MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:41- 01:56:41 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SVACV - ACTIVATE TERMINATION SAVE AREAS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:41- 01:56:41 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MXYTM - STOP CHANNEL PATH MEASUREMENT FACILIT MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:42- 01:56:42 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP CHMOF - DISABLE CHANNEL MEASUREMENT MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:43- 01:56:42 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ISHDA - DISABLE ALL DEVICES MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:48- 01:56:47 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP CKPSH - TAKE A CHECKPOINT MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:49- 01:56:49 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP OPRCK - SAVE OPERATOR CONSOLE LIST MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:50- 01:56:49 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MCWMD - DETERMINE MACHINE CHECK STATUS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:50- 01:56:50 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SDVRS - RESET IBM DASD CU CHARACTERISTICS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:51- HCPWRP962I VM SHUTDOWN COMPLETED IN 33 SEC 01:56:51 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SVADV - DEACTIVATE TERMINATION SAVE AREAS HCPWRP962I VM SHUTDOWN COMPLETED IN 33 SEC MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:52- 01:56:51 HCPWRP961W SYSTEM SHUTDOWN COMPLETE Marcy
Re: Question on SHUTDOWNTIME
I think I saw one of our systems take 78 seconds to shut down recently, but AFAIK, we don't have software to capture the shutdown messages. If I'm thinking of the right system, it has over 5000 devices. Dennis O'Brien "I want to express my gratitude to my family. To my mother and father who instilled in me the values that have carried me this far." -- former U.S. Representative Anthony Wiener, during his resignation speech -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 16:05 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Question on SHUTDOWNTIME The default is 30 seconds (Q SHUTDOWNTIME) for the CP's portion of the shutdown process. I recall hearing that is good default. We are seeing systems exceed that - 33 seconds in this one that seemed to come with bonus messages (that is our SW seemed to capture the HCPWRP963I's on this one). Are others seeing that? Here's an example. MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:00-SYSTEM 000%49 Users VM:Operator on OPERATOR(ME8VM)Sun 19Jun11 01:56 01:51:48 HCPSHU6018I The processor controller has sent a shutdown signal with a timeout interval of 300 seconds 01:51:48 HCPSHU6019I Guests may not have time to shut down because VM SHUTDOWN requires 30 seconds 01:51:48 HCPSIG2113I User VMSERVU has reported successful termination 01:51:48 HCPSIG2113I User ME8SFS has reported successful termination 01:52:18 HCPSIG2113I User ME8PROX2 has reported successful termination MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:19-01:56:19 Processor 01 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:19-01:56:19 Processor 02 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:20-01:56:20 Processor 03 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:20-01:56:20 Processor 04 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:21-01:56:21 Processor 05 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:37- 01:56:37 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP USOAC - JOURNAL USER TERMINATION MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:38- 01:56:38 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MFRSD - TERMINATE HARDWARE LOADER MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:38- 01:56:38 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP APISD - TERMINATE OTHER PROCESSORS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:39- 01:56:39 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ENASD - DISABLE TERMINAL DEVICES MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:40- 01:56:39 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP XLGIN - CLEAR CROSS-SYSTEM LINK FLAGS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:40- 01:56:40 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ISHDN - SHUT DOWN I/O SUBSYSTEM MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:41- 01:56:41 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SVACV - ACTIVATE TERMINATION SAVE AREAS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:41- 01:56:41 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MXYTM - STOP CHANNEL PATH MEASUREMENT FACILIT MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:42- 01:56:42 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP CHMOF - DISABLE CHANNEL MEASUREMENT MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:43- 01:56:42 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ISHDA - DISABLE ALL DEVICES MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:48- 01:56:47 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP CKPSH - TAKE A CHECKPOINT MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:49- 01:56:49 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP OPRCK - SAVE OPERATOR CONSOLE LIST MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:50- 01:56:49 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MCWMD - DETERMINE MACHINE CHECK STATUS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:50- 01:56:50 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SDVRS - RESET IBM DASD CU CHARACTERISTICS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:51- HCPWRP962I VM SHUTDOWN COMPLETED IN 33 SEC 01:56:51 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SVADV - DEACTIVATE TERMINATION SAVE AREAS HCPWRP962I VM SHUTDOWN COMPLETED IN 33 SEC MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:52- 01:56:51 HCPWRP961W SYSTEM SHUTDOWN COMPLETE Marcy -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country
Re: Question on SHUTDOWNTIME
What's ME8PROX2? That seems to be taking a full 30 seconds to terminate.. Scott Rohling On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Marcy Cortes wrote: > The default is 30 seconds (Q SHUTDOWNTIME) for the CP's portion of the > shutdown process. > I recall hearing that is good default. > > We are seeing systems exceed that - 33 seconds in this one that seemed to > come with bonus messages (that is our SW seemed to capture the HCPWRP963I's > on this one). > > > Are others seeing that? > > > > Here's an example. > > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:00-SYSTEM 000%49 Users VM:Operator on > OPERATOR(ME8VM)Sun 19Jun11 01:56 > 01:51:48 HCPSHU6018I The processor controller has sent a > shutdown signal with a > timeout interval of 300 seconds > 01:51:48 HCPSHU6019I Guests may not have time to shut down > because VM SHUTDOWN > requires 30 seconds > 01:51:48 HCPSIG2113I User VMSERVU has reported successful > termination > 01:51:48 HCPSIG2113I User ME8SFS has reported successful > termination > 01:52:18 HCPSIG2113I User ME8PROX2 has reported successful > termination > > > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:19-01:56:19 Processor 01 offline > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:19-01:56:19 Processor 02 offline > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:20-01:56:20 Processor 03 offline > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:20-01:56:20 Processor 04 offline > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:21-01:56:21 Processor 05 offline > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:37- 01:56:37 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP USOAC - JOURNAL > USER TERMINATION > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:38- 01:56:38 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MFRSD - > TERMINATE HARDWARE LOADER > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:38- 01:56:38 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP APISD - > TERMINATE OTHER PROCESSORS > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:39- 01:56:39 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ENASD - DISABLE > TERMINAL DEVICES > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:40- 01:56:39 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP XLGIN - CLEAR > CROSS-SYSTEM LINK FLAGS > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:40- 01:56:40 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ISHDN - SHUT > DOWN I/O SUBSYSTEM > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:41- 01:56:41 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SVACV - ACTIVATE > TERMINATION SAVE AREAS > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:41- 01:56:41 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MXYTM - STOP > CHANNEL PATH MEASUREMENT FACILIT > > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:42- 01:56:42 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP CHMOF - DISABLE > CHANNEL MEASUREMENT > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:43- 01:56:42 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ISHDA - DISABLE > ALL DEVICES > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:48- 01:56:47 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP CKPSH - TAKE A > CHECKPOINT > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:49- 01:56:49 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP OPRCK - SAVE > OPERATOR CONSOLE LIST > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:50- 01:56:49 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MCWMD - > DETERMINE MACHINE CHECK STATUS > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:50- 01:56:50 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SDVRS - RESET > IBM DASD CU CHARACTERISTICS > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:51- > > > > > >HCPWRP962I VM SHUTDOWN COMPLETED IN 33 SEC >01:56:51 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SVADV - DEACTIVATE > TERMINATION SAVE AREAS > > > > > > >HCPWRP962I VM SHUTDOWN COMPLETED IN 33 SEC > MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:52- 01:56:51 HCPWRP961W SYSTEM SHUTDOWN COMPLETE > > > > > > Marcy >
Question on SHUTDOWNTIME
The default is 30 seconds (Q SHUTDOWNTIME) for the CP's portion of the shutdown process. I recall hearing that is good default. We are seeing systems exceed that - 33 seconds in this one that seemed to come with bonus messages (that is our SW seemed to capture the HCPWRP963I's on this one). Are others seeing that? Here's an example. MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:00-SYSTEM 000%49 Users VM:Operator on OPERATOR(ME8VM)Sun 19Jun11 01:56 01:51:48 HCPSHU6018I The processor controller has sent a shutdown signal with a timeout interval of 300 seconds 01:51:48 HCPSHU6019I Guests may not have time to shut down because VM SHUTDOWN requires 30 seconds 01:51:48 HCPSIG2113I User VMSERVU has reported successful termination 01:51:48 HCPSIG2113I User ME8SFS has reported successful termination 01:52:18 HCPSIG2113I User ME8PROX2 has reported successful termination MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:19-01:56:19 Processor 01 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:19-01:56:19 Processor 02 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:20-01:56:20 Processor 03 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:20-01:56:20 Processor 04 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:21-01:56:21 Processor 05 offline MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:37- 01:56:37 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP USOAC - JOURNAL USER TERMINATION MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:38- 01:56:38 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MFRSD - TERMINATE HARDWARE LOADER MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:38- 01:56:38 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP APISD - TERMINATE OTHER PROCESSORS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:39- 01:56:39 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ENASD - DISABLE TERMINAL DEVICES MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:40- 01:56:39 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP XLGIN - CLEAR CROSS-SYSTEM LINK FLAGS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:40- 01:56:40 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ISHDN - SHUT DOWN I/O SUBSYSTEM MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:41- 01:56:41 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SVACV - ACTIVATE TERMINATION SAVE AREAS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:41- 01:56:41 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MXYTM - STOP CHANNEL PATH MEASUREMENT FACILIT MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:42- 01:56:42 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP CHMOF - DISABLE CHANNEL MEASUREMENT MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:43- 01:56:42 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP ISHDA - DISABLE ALL DEVICES MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:48- 01:56:47 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP CKPSH - TAKE A CHECKPOINT MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:49- 01:56:49 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP OPRCK - SAVE OPERATOR CONSOLE LIST MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:50- 01:56:49 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP MCWMD - DETERMINE MACHINE CHECK STATUS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:50- 01:56:50 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SDVRS - RESET IBM DASD CU CHARACTERISTICS MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:51- HCPWRP962I VM SHUTDOWN COMPLETED IN 33 SEC 01:56:51 HCPWRP963I SHUTDOWN STEP SVADV - DEACTIVATE TERMINATION SAVE AREAS HCPWRP962I VM SHUTDOWN COMPLETED IN 33 SEC MZ8-300:Jun 18 23:56:52- 01:56:51 HCPWRP961W SYSTEM SHUTDOWN COMPLETE Marcy
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
> As a follow-up to this (for those interested), this turned out to be a > hardware problem. The HMC's hard drive had crashed and communications > was totally messed up. The CE promptly got things under control Suddenly I had a flash of the scene in Monty Python's "Life of Brian" after Brian escapes from the Romans and goes out to the hermit with the juniper bushes, followed by the crowd: "The Message! Believe in the Message!" "No, the gourd!" "The shoe!" "Heretics!" "Unbelievers!" "Smite them!" Seriously, though, glad to see the hardware diags actually worked. -- db
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
As a follow-up to this (for those interested), this turned out to be a hardware problem. The HMC's hard drive had crashed and communications was totally messed up. The CE promptly got things under control and I was happy to see: CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2817I LOAD COMPLETED FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2817I NOW STARTING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4. CFCC4 : 11:36:29 CF0009I Licensed Internal Code - Property of IBM CFCC4 : Coupling facility control code CFCC4 : (C) Copyright IBM Corp 1993,1994,1995,1996,1997 CFCC4 : All rights reserved. CFCC4 : US Government Users Restricted Rights - CFCC4 : Use, duplication or disclosure restricted CFCC4 : by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corp. CFCC4 : 11:36:29 CF0280I CFCC Release 15.00, Service Level 00.27 CFCC4 : Built on 12/06/2007 at 13:26:00 CFCC4 : Code Load Features: CFCC4 : Facility Operational Level: 15 CFCC4 : 11:36:29 CF0010I Coupling Facility is active with: CFCC4 : 1 CP CFCC4 : 0 CF Receiver Channels CFCC4 : 0 CF Sender Channels CFCC4 : 172 MB of allocatable storage Thanks to those who offered their advice on this! Dave Booher Quest Software === From: David Booher To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 09/06/2011 12:25 Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SERVICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Mike,
I'm investigating just those points you mentioned. However, the z9 is in
England and the remote web-app for the HMC isn't cooperating very well at the
moment :(
I've contacted my guys over there and we'll be checking the microcode updates
as well as profiles on the HMC to see if there's anything glaring for that
LPAR.
I appreciate all the "remote viewing" because that's exactly what I'm doing
with a z9 not too far from Stonehenge and I'm here in Chicago :)
Thanks for your help.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf
Of Mike Walter
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:53 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
David,
Isn't the problem that the virtual CF machines are not responding?
If that is the case, then I don't understand why the IOCP would be
involved... it's all virtual. During initialization following the
XAUTOLOG, the virtual CF machine is supposed to read the actual CF code
from the HMC - the same place that the real CFs load their code.
If you are getting time-outs during virtual CF initialization, perhaps
there's something happening on the HMC during the XAUTOLOG. Or maybe a
problem with the micro-code on the HMC. How up-to-date is the microcode
on that z9? Or as mentioned before some configuration not set
properly on the HMC (go back to the "Running Guest Operating Systems"
manual?)
I'm doing nothing more than what most everyone else is doing... guessing
from a remote vantage point. It's a bit like "remote viewing" in the
movie "Men Who Stare at Goats". (bahh-ahh) :-)
Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
"David Booher"
Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System"
06/14/2011 08:44 AM
Please respond to
"The IBM z/VM Operating System"
To
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
cc
Subject
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Forgive my ignorance, but is this all defined in the IOCP? Because the
IOCP is very generic and most of the stuff is SHARED. I don?t see
anything in the current IOCP that sets any partition apart from the other.
BTW, this is a z9 that?s having trouble:
IOCONFIG ID=33
IDMSG2='SYS1.IODF33 - Z9 23JAN08',SYSTEM=(7060,1),*
TOK=('M3000H30',0081AD0E2094202540630106302F*
,,'06-10-29','20:25:40','SYS1','IODF99')
*
RESOURCE PARTITION=((CSS(0),(CFE1,9),(CFE2,A), +
(PART1,1),(PART2,2),(PART3,3),(PART4,4),+
(PART5,5),(PART6,6),(PART7,7),(PART8,8)))
Dave
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of gclo...@br.ibm.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:23 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
David,
I don't have access to a Z10, so it is only speculation.
Something to check:
Are the CF Processors dedicated to CF LPAR?
The VM LPAR have access to at least one CF processor?
Is VM LPAR running in Mode VM?
Follow this line...
__
Clovis
From:
David Booher
To:
IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu
Date:
09/06/2011 12:25
Subject:
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Sent by:
The IBM z/VM Operating System
Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in
Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange
messages indicated below.
I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are
running CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a "licensing"
issue... Is it just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM
LPAR? Is this a requirement for zVM 5.3?
No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want
to get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because
DB2 won't run on my z800 here in Chicago.
My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back
from trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was "supposedly"
loading.
09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4
09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED
09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR
CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR
CONTROL
LER.
09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP
CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM
THE SERVICE PROCESSOR.
CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR
CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME.
CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT CO
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
David,
Isn't the problem that the virtual CF machines are not responding?
If that is the case, then I don't understand why the IOCP would be
involved... it's all virtual. During initialization following the
XAUTOLOG, the virtual CF machine is supposed to read the actual CF code
from the HMC - the same place that the real CFs load their code.
If you are getting time-outs during virtual CF initialization, perhaps
there's something happening on the HMC during the XAUTOLOG. Or maybe a
problem with the micro-code on the HMC. How up-to-date is the microcode
on that z9? Or as mentioned before some configuration not set
properly on the HMC (go back to the "Running Guest Operating Systems"
manual?)
I'm doing nothing more than what most everyone else is doing... guessing
from a remote vantage point. It's a bit like "remote viewing" in the
movie "Men Who Stare at Goats". (bahh-ahh) :-)
Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
"David Booher"
Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System"
06/14/2011 08:44 AM
Please respond to
"The IBM z/VM Operating System"
To
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
cc
Subject
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Forgive my ignorance, but is this all defined in the IOCP? Because the
IOCP is very generic and most of the stuff is SHARED. I don?t see
anything in the current IOCP that sets any partition apart from the other.
BTW, this is a z9 that?s having trouble:
IOCONFIG ID=33
IDMSG2='SYS1.IODF33 - Z9 23JAN08',SYSTEM=(7060,1),*
TOK=('M3000H30',0081AD0E2094202540630106302F*
,,'06-10-29','20:25:40','SYS1','IODF99')
*
RESOURCE PARTITION=((CSS(0),(CFE1,9),(CFE2,A), +
(PART1,1),(PART2,2),(PART3,3),(PART4,4),+
(PART5,5),(PART6,6),(PART7,7),(PART8,8)))
Dave
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of gclo...@br.ibm.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:23 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
David,
I don't have access to a Z10, so it is only speculation.
Something to check:
Are the CF Processors dedicated to CF LPAR?
The VM LPAR have access to at least one CF processor?
Is VM LPAR running in Mode VM?
Follow this line...
__
Clovis
From:
David Booher
To:
IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu
Date:
09/06/2011 12:25
Subject:
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Sent by:
The IBM z/VM Operating System
Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in
Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange
messages indicated below.
I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are
running CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a "licensing"
issue... Is it just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM
LPAR? Is this a requirement for zVM 5.3?
No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want
to get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because
DB2 won't run on my z800 here in Chicago.
My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back
from trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was "supposedly"
loading.
09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4
09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED
09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR
CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR
CONTROL
LER.
09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP
CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM
THE SERVICE PROCESSOR.
CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR
CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME.
CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS.
Dave Booher
Quest Software
The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may
contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from
disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this
message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender
by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any
dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by
anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages
sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by
applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies
and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to
be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or
contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate
with us by e-mail.
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Ok, that’s what I eventually figured out…. we’re checking into that now.
Thanks for the advice and a “place to start looking”…..
Dave
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf
Of gclo...@br.ibm.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:58 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Hi, David.
No, the processors and LPAR modes are defined into HMC (Hardware Management
Console), function "Configure Activation Profiles".
It is not IOCP.
Regards,
__
Clovis
From:
David Booher
To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:
14/06/2011 10:44
Subject:
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Sent by:
The IBM z/VM Operating System
Forgive my ignorance, but is this all defined in the IOCP? Because the IOCP is
very generic and most of the stuff is SHARED. I don’t see anything in the
current IOCP that sets any partition apart from the other. BTW, this is a z9
that’s having trouble:
IOCONFIG ID=33
IDMSG2='SYS1.IODF33 - Z9 23JAN08',SYSTEM=(7060,1),*
TOK=('M3000H30',0081AD0E2094202540630106302F*
,,'06-10-29','20:25:40','SYS1','IODF99')
*
RESOURCE PARTITION=((CSS(0),(CFE1,9),(CFE2,A), +
(PART1,1),(PART2,2),(PART3,3),(PART4,4),+
(PART5,5),(PART6,6),(PART7,7),(PART8,8)))
Dave
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf
Of gclo...@br.ibm.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:23 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
David,
I don't have access to a Z10, so it is only speculation.
Something to check:
* Are the CF Processors dedicated to CF LPAR?
* The VM LPAR have access to at least one CF processor?
* Is VM LPAR running in Mode VM?
Follow this line...
__
Clovis
From:
David Booher
To:
IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu
Date:
09/06/2011 12:25
Subject:
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Sent by:
The IBM z/VM Operating System
Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in
Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange
messages indicated below.
I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are running
CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a "licensing" issue... Is it
just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM LPAR? Is this a
requirement for zVM 5.3?
No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want to
get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because DB2 won't
run on my z800 here in Chicago.
My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back from
trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was "supposedly" loading.
09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4
09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED
09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR
CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR
CONTROL
LER.
09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP
CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM
THE SERVICE PROCESSOR.
CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR
CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME.
CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS.
Dave Booher
Quest Software
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Hi, David.
No, the processors and LPAR modes are defined into HMC (Hardware
Management Console), function "Configure Activation Profiles".
It is not IOCP.
Regards,
__
Clovis
From:
David Booher
To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:
14/06/2011 10:44
Subject:
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Sent by:
The IBM z/VM Operating System
Forgive my ignorance, but is this all defined in the IOCP? Because the
IOCP is very generic and most of the stuff is SHARED. I don’t see
anything in the current IOCP that sets any partition apart from the other.
BTW, this is a z9 that’s having trouble:
IOCONFIG ID=33
IDMSG2='SYS1.IODF33 - Z9 23JAN08',SYSTEM=(7060,1),*
TOK=('M3000H30',0081AD0E2094202540630106302F*
,,'06-10-29','20:25:40','SYS1','IODF99')
*
RESOURCE PARTITION=((CSS(0),(CFE1,9),(CFE2,A), +
(PART1,1),(PART2,2),(PART3,3),(PART4,4),+
(PART5,5),(PART6,6),(PART7,7),(PART8,8)))
Dave
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of gclo...@br.ibm.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:23 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
David,
I don't have access to a Z10, so it is only speculation.
Something to check:
Are the CF Processors dedicated to CF LPAR?
The VM LPAR have access to at least one CF processor?
Is VM LPAR running in Mode VM?
Follow this line...
__
Clovis
From:
David Booher
To:
IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu
Date:
09/06/2011 12:25
Subject:
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Sent by:
The IBM z/VM Operating System
Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in
Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange
messages indicated below.
I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are
running CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a "licensing"
issue... Is it just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM
LPAR? Is this a requirement for zVM 5.3?
No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want
to get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because
DB2 won't run on my z800 here in Chicago.
My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back
from trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was "supposedly"
loading.
09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4
09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED
09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR
CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR
CONTROL
LER.
09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP
CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM
THE SERVICE PROCESSOR.
CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR
CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME.
CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS.
Dave Booher
Quest Software
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Forgive my ignorance, but is this all defined in the IOCP? Because the IOCP is
very generic and most of the stuff is SHARED. I don't see anything in the
current IOCP that sets any partition apart from the other. BTW, this is a z9
that's having trouble:
IOCONFIG ID=33
IDMSG2='SYS1.IODF33 - Z9 23JAN08',SYSTEM=(7060,1),*
TOK=('M3000H30',0081AD0E2094202540630106302F*
,,'06-10-29','20:25:40','SYS1','IODF99')
*
RESOURCE PARTITION=((CSS(0),(CFE1,9),(CFE2,A), +
(PART1,1),(PART2,2),(PART3,3),(PART4,4),+
(PART5,5),(PART6,6),(PART7,7),(PART8,8)))
Dave
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf
Of gclo...@br.ibm.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:23 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
David,
I don't have access to a Z10, so it is only speculation.
Something to check:
* Are the CF Processors dedicated to CF LPAR?
* The VM LPAR have access to at least one CF processor?
* Is VM LPAR running in Mode VM?
Follow this line...
__
Clovis
From:
David Booher
To:
IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu
Date:
09/06/2011 12:25
Subject:
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Sent by:
The IBM z/VM Operating System
Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in
Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange
messages indicated below.
I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are running
CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a "licensing" issue... Is it
just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM LPAR? Is this a
requirement for zVM 5.3?
No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want to
get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because DB2 won't
run on my z800 here in Chicago.
My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back from
trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was "supposedly" loading.
09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4
09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED
09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR
CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR
CONTROL
LER.
09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP
CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM
THE SERVICE PROCESSOR.
CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR
CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME.
CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS.
Dave Booher
Quest Software
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
David, I don't have access to a Z10, so it is only speculation. Something to check: Are the CF Processors dedicated to CF LPAR? The VM LPAR have access to at least one CF processor? Is VM LPAR running in Mode VM? Follow this line... __ Clovis From: David Booher To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 09/06/2011 12:25 Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange messages indicated below. I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are running CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a "licensing" issue... Is it just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM LPAR? Is this a requirement for zVM 5.3? No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want to get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because DB2 won't run on my z800 here in Chicago. My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back from trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was "supposedly" loading. 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SERVICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
On Thursday, 06/09/2011 at 11:14 EDT, Mike Walter wrote: > I'm not sure if this will be of any help, but here are the CF-related > console messages extracted from our most recent IPL of a z/VM 5.4 system > running in an LPAR on a z10: You can find sample output and other information on the virtual Coupling Facility in the Running Guest Operating Systems book. The relevant error in this case is > CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER > DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. HELP HCP2814E tells you to try again, but that if it fails repeatedly to open a PMR. SEND won't work until the CF is loaded and ready. z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange messages indicated below. I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are running CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a "licensing" issue... Is it just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM LPAR? Is this a requirement for zVM 5.3? No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want to get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because DB2 won't run on my z800 here in Chicago. My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back from trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was "supposedly" loading. 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SERVICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
David, I'm not sure if this will be of any help, but here are the CF-related console messages extracted from our most recent IPL of a z/VM 5.4 system running in an LPAR on a z10: -- CF1 : HCPMFZ2821I Some SPECIAL MSGP processing was deferred. 21:27:58 AUTO LOGON *** CF1 USERS = 15BY AUTOLOG1 CF1 : HCPMFT2816I Loading message processor CF1 from the processor controller. <-21:28:24 timestamp from another message at this point... -> CF1 : HCPMFT2817I Load completed from the processor controller. HCPMFT2817I Now starting message processor CF1. CF1 : Command complete CF1 : 21:28:26 CF0009I Licensed Internal Code - Property of IBM CF1 : Coupling facility control code CF1 : (C) Copyright IBM Corp 1993,1994,1995,1996,1997, CF1 : 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, CF1 : 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 CF1 : All rights reserved. CF1 : US Government Users Restricted Rights - CF1 : Use, duplication or disclosure restricted CF1 : by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corp. CF1 : 21:28:26 CF0280I CFCC Release 16.00, Service Level 04.01 CF1 : Built on 01/24/2011 at 14:44:00 CF1 : Code Load Features: CF1 : Facility Operational Level: 16 CF1 : 21:28:26 CF0010I Coupling Facility is active with: CF1 : 2 CPs CF1 : 2 CF Receiver Channels CF1 : 1 CF Sender Channel CF1 : 3750 MB of allocatable storage -- Perhaps seeing what *should* occur will give you a clue. One presumes that you have looked up the HCP messages you recieved, right? Questions for you: 1) (Since Alan mentioned it) what sort of LPAR definition is involved? I.e. is it a VM LPAR? 2) Has your CFCC4 virtual machine ever initialized successfully before? 3) If it did initialize before, was it on the very same CEC? 4) If it did initialize before, (the obvious question) - what changed (e.g. hardware, LPAR definition, z/VM system upgrade or maintenance)? Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "David Booher" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 06/09/2011 09:46 AM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Hmmm?then I wonder what this is all about. I?d really like to get this working: 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SER VICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DI D NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR We've been running CFUSER virtual machines (albeit with different userids) in an LPAR since at least z/VM 4.3, perhaps even earlier. Mike Walter Aon Corporation y e-mail. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
On Thursday, 06/09/2011 at 10:12 EDT, David Booher wrote: > Am I understanding correctly that the CFUSER virtual machines that you can run > when z/VM is running natively and now be run in zVM when running in an LPAR? > This was added in zVM 5.4? There has never been a restriction on using virtual coupling in an LPAR. The only thing that is required is that the machine be licensed for Coupling Facility, which, IIRC, is demonstrated by the presence of at least one coupling link on the box. (But that may have changed over the years) If the machine is not licensed for CF, then virtual CF cannot be used. What IS relatively new is that if you are running in a z/VM mode LPAR, then you can have real CF engines in the z/VM LPAR and virtual CFs will be dispatched on real CFs. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Hmmm...then I wonder what this is all about. I'd really like to get this working: 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SER VICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DI D NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR We've been running CFUSER virtual machines (albeit with different userids) in an LPAR since at least z/VM 4.3, perhaps even earlier. Mike Walter Aon Corporation y e-mail.
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
We've been running CFUSER virtual machines (albeit with different userids) in an LPAR since at least z/VM 4.3, perhaps even earlier. Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "David Booher" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 06/09/2011 09:10 AM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Am I understanding correctly that the CFUSER virtual machines that you can run when z/VM is running natively and now be run in zVM when running in an LPAR? This was added in zVM 5.4? The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Am I understanding correctly that the CFUSER virtual machines that you can run when z/VM is running natively and now be run in zVM when running in an LPAR? This was added in zVM 5.4?
Re: EXECIO DISKW Question
> > We want write a REXX EXEC , that do a Update in place. > > Another words, I need, read the record 1 from the file, and then > rewrite > the > > same record. > > Is possible? In addition to reading the manuals that Alan suggested, you should look for the RXFILEIO package on the VMWorkshop tapes. It provides CMS filesystem I/O interfaces that are much more natural REXX function interfaces to the CMS file I/O macros. You probably could also use the CMS common I/O routines, but they're a lot harder to understand and use.
Re: EXECIO DISKW Question
Read up also about FILEMODE 6. And be sure that the file being updated has RECFM F (fixed record format), not RECFM V (variable). Once you are satisfied that you have it working, run some performance tests comparing: - updating that file vs - reading in the whole file, replacing just that record, and re-writing the whole file using CMS Pipelines. You may be surprised (depending on the file size, your disk subsystem, etc.). Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Chip Davis" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 06/01/2011 10:28 AM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: EXECIO DISKW Question Yes, but be careful. Try: EXECIO 1 DISKRU ... -Chip- On 6/1/11 14:49 Sergio Lima said: > Hello List, > > We want write a REXX EXEC , that do a Update in place. > Another words, I need, read the record 1 from the file, and then rewrite > the same record. > Is possible? > > Thanks, > > Sergio The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: EXECIO DISKW Question
On Wednesday, 06/01/2011 at 10:50 EDT, Sergio Lima wrote: > We want write a REXX EXEC , that do a Update in place. > Another words, I need, read the record 1 from the file, and then rewrite the > same record. > Is possible? Yes. There are a few programming considerations: 1. If the file is RECFM F, you can change any record you want. 2. If the file is RECFM V, you can change any record you want. 3. If you change the LRECL of a record in a RECFM V file, that record will become the last record in the file. 4. If other virtual machines have the disk accessed while you're doing this, then you can use filemode number 6 to cause the records to be physically rewritten to the same disk location. 5. Update-in-place using fm6 exposes the file to corruption if the system or CMS dies in the middle of a write. For more information, please read these (sub)sections of Ch. 9 (CMS File System) of the CMS Application Development Guide for Assembler - Replacing Records - EDF Data Integrity - Extending the file Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: EXECIO DISKW Question
Yes, but be careful. Try: EXECIO 1 DISKRU ... -Chip- On 6/1/11 14:49 Sergio Lima said: Hello List, We want write a REXX EXEC , that do a Update in place. Another words, I need, read the record 1 from the file, and then rewrite the same record. Is possible? Thanks, Sergio
EXECIO DISKW Question
Hello List, We want write a REXX EXEC , that do a Update in place. Another words, I need, read the record 1 from the file, and then rewrite the same record. Is possible? Thanks, Sergio
Re: Dirmaint question
Karl, Did you check all the variations of DIRM STATUS? See DIRM HELP STATUS Looks like a Workunit not assigned, due a Mdisk or Userid locked. Regards, __ Clovis From: Karl Kingston To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 20/05/2011 08:47 Subject: Dirmaint question Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System Hi Folks. Yesterday, one of our administators issued a "DIRM FOR ONGWW02 PURGE" to delete a z/VM user. Checking to see if this was done, he issued "DIRM FOR ONGWW02 REV" and got the following back: DVHREQ3205E The directory entry for ONGWW02 is scheduled to be purged. I did a DIRM STATUS to see if there were any pending workunits and did not see any. This AM, I checked and still seeing the purge is still scheduled. The only DASD in the directory entry right now (from a DIRM USER) is LINKS to other minidisks. I have recycled both DIRMAINT and DATAMOVE but no change. What's going on? What's it waiting for? How do I fix this? Thanks!
Dirmaint question
Greetings Karl, There was an APAR on DirMaint FL540 and FL610 (VM64724 - PURGE CLEAN ON USERID WITH VDISK DOES NOT COMPLETE). PTFs: Release 540 : UV61094 Release 610 : UV61095 When a user entry contains VDISK or TDISK minidisks, DirMaint would not finish PURGE processing correctly. When a user is stuck in this state--purge is still pending but there are no left over workunits associated with the id--you will need to delete the user's entry in the PURGES PENDING file on the DIRMAINT 155 disk. Once t he record is deleted in the PURGES PENDING file, you can reissue the DIRM FO R userid PURGE command and the PURGE should then work correctly. If the user did not contain VDISK or TDISK minidisks, then this is a new problem for which a PMR should be opened. Regards, Mike Wilkins z/VM Development
Re: Dirmaint question
Karl. Is it possible that a user may still have an active link to the ONGWW02 minidisk? Hans From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Karl Kingston Sent: May-20-11 7:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Dirmaint question Hi Folks. Yesterday, one of our administators issued a "DIRM FOR ONGWW02 PURGE" to delete a z/VM user. Checking to see if this was done, he issued "DIRM FOR ONGWW02 REV" and got the following back: DVHREQ3205E The directory entry for ONGWW02 is scheduled to be purged. I did a DIRM STATUS to see if there were any pending workunits and did not see any. This AM, I checked and still seeing the purge is still scheduled. The only DASD in the directory entry right now (from a DIRM USER) is LINKS to other minidisks. I have recycled both DIRMAINT and DATAMOVE but no change. What's going on? What's it waiting for? How do I fix this? Thanks!
Dirmaint question
Hi Folks. Yesterday, one of our administators issued a "DIRM FOR ONGWW02 PURGE" to delete a z/VM user. Checking to see if this was done, he issued "DIRM FOR ONGWW02 REV" and got the following back: DVHREQ3205E The directory entry for ONGWW02 is scheduled to be purged. I did a DIRM STATUS to see if there were any pending workunits and did not see any. This AM, I checked and still seeing the purge is still scheduled. The only DASD in the directory entry right now (from a DIRM USER) is LINKS to other minidisks. I have recycled both DIRMAINT and DATAMOVE but no change. What's going on? What's it waiting for? How do I fix this? Thanks!
Re: VM VTAM Question
Z, o,/s,,, likes,commas,and,positional,,parameters. VM not so much (good boy, VM) Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Wandschneider, Scott Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM VTAM Question Wow the problem was the comma. I removed it and it worked. Thank you very much! Thank you, Scott -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM VTAM Question r 05 ignore ? (or just do TCP/IP :) Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Wandschneider, Scott Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM VTAM Question But - here is what I get... v act,id=ncpnet6 GCTACC425I 0191 replaces A (0191) GCTACC423I A (0191) R/O Ready; IST097I VARY ACCEPTED IST461I ACTIVATE FOR U/RNAME ENTRY ID = 0C10-S STARTED IST464I LINK STATION 0C10-S HAS CONTACTED NCPNET6 SA 46 IST521I GBIND QUEUED FOR COS ISTVTCOS FROM MCC6 TO NCPNET6 IST528I VIRTUAL ROUTE NUMBER 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 IST523I REASON = NO ROUTES OPERATIVE 05 IST937A NCPNET6 CORRELATOR MISMATCH 04/27/06 21:36:13 - 07/16/08 15:00:50 REP LY 'RELOAD', 'INACT', OR 'IGNORE' TIME IS 10:00:00 EDT THURSDAY 04/28/2011 CONNECT= 99:59:59 VIRTCPU= 999:59.99 TOTCPU= 999:59.99 Ready; r 05,ignore GCTRPY206E Reply not accepted, ID not specified Ready(8); Thank you, Scott -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:46 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM VTAM Question I think you are right Ivan. I just tried it. Vtam prefix has to be on the Vtam commands GCS just r 00,ignore Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Ivan Warren Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM VTAM Question On 4/28/2011 5:46 AM, Marcy Cortes wrote: > I'm pretty sure it's > > vtam r 00,ignore > > > It's been a long while though! > > Marcy Isn't 'reply' a standard GCS command (part of the OS emulation in GCS) In which case, it would definitely be 'r 00,ignore' issued from the virtual machine hosting VTAM. (But I could be wrong.. It's been a few years)... --Ivan ��ۙ�Y[�X[] H��N�\�K[XZ[ [�� Y[��[�H] X�Y[� �] X^H�Z[�X]\�X[ ]\��ۙ�Y[�X[ �� �Y]\�K �]�[Y�Y[� �܈� ��X�YX[ [��ܛX][ۋ� �][� HYX[�[��و H �Y�[][ۜ� [�\� HX[ [��\�[��HܝX�[] H �X���[�X�[] HX�\�[Y[�Y �Y�]\����X\� ] [�H\�H H[�[�Y �X�\Y[� [�H\�H\�X�H��Y�YY ] [�H]�H �X�Z]�Y \� �[��Z] [[�\��܋[�[�H �]�Y]�\��[Z[�][ۋ\� �X�][ۈ܈�� Z[��و \�K[XZ[ [�� Y[��[�H] X�Y[� �] \� � �X� H ��X�]Y �Y� [�H]�H �X�Z]�Y \�K[XZ[[�\��܋ X\�H[[YYX][ H �] \��] � H �[�\�[�[]H]���H [�\� �\�[K�[�� [�K� Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or "Protected Health Information," within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: VM VTAM Question
Wow the problem was the comma. I removed it and it worked. Thank you very much! Thank you, Scott -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM VTAM Question r 05 ignore ? (or just do TCP/IP :) Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Wandschneider, Scott Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM VTAM Question But - here is what I get... v act,id=ncpnet6 GCTACC425I 0191 replaces A (0191) GCTACC423I A (0191) R/O Ready; IST097I VARY ACCEPTED IST461I ACTIVATE FOR U/RNAME ENTRY ID = 0C10-S STARTED IST464I LINK STATION 0C10-S HAS CONTACTED NCPNET6 SA 46 IST521I GBIND QUEUED FOR COS ISTVTCOS FROM MCC6 TO NCPNET6 IST528I VIRTUAL ROUTE NUMBER 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 IST523I REASON = NO ROUTES OPERATIVE 05 IST937A NCPNET6 CORRELATOR MISMATCH 04/27/06 21:36:13 - 07/16/08 15:00:50 REP LY 'RELOAD', 'INACT', OR 'IGNORE' TIME IS 10:00:00 EDT THURSDAY 04/28/2011 CONNECT= 99:59:59 VIRTCPU= 999:59.99 TOTCPU= 999:59.99 Ready; r 05,ignore GCTRPY206E Reply not accepted, ID not specified Ready(8); Thank you, Scott -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:46 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM VTAM Question I think you are right Ivan. I just tried it. Vtam prefix has to be on the Vtam commands GCS just r 00,ignore Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Ivan Warren Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM VTAM Question On 4/28/2011 5:46 AM, Marcy Cortes wrote: > I'm pretty sure it's > > vtam r 00,ignore > > > It's been a long while though! > > Marcy Isn't 'reply' a standard GCS command (part of the OS emulation in GCS) In which case, it would definitely be 'r 00,ignore' issued from the virtual machine hosting VTAM. (But I could be wrong.. It's been a few years)... --Ivan ��ۙ�Y[�X[] H��N�\�K[XZ[ [�� Y[��[�H] X�Y[� �] X^H�Z[�X]\�X[ ]\��ۙ�Y[�X[ �� �Y]\�K �]�[Y�Y[� �܈� ��X�YX[ [��ܛX][ۋ� �][� HYX[�[��و H �Y�[][ۜ� [�\� HX[ [��\�[��HܝX�[] H �X���[�X�[] HX�\�[Y[�Y �Y�]\����X\� ] [�H\�H H[�[�Y �X�\Y[� [�H\�H\�X�H��Y�YY ] [�H]�H �X�Z]�Y \� �[��Z] [[�\��܋[�[�H �]�Y]�\��[Z[�][ۋ\� �X�][ۈ܈�� Z[��و \�K[XZ[ [�� Y[��[�H] X�Y[� �] \� � �X� H ��X�]Y �Y� [�H]�H �X�Z]�Y \�K[XZ[[�\��܋ X\�H[[YYX][ H �] \��] � H �[�\�[�[]H]���H [�\� �\�[K�[�� [�K� Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or "Protected Health Information," within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: VM VTAM Question
r 05 ignore ? (or just do TCP/IP :) Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Wandschneider, Scott Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM VTAM Question But - here is what I get... v act,id=ncpnet6 GCTACC425I 0191 replaces A (0191) GCTACC423I A (0191) R/O Ready; IST097I VARY ACCEPTED IST461I ACTIVATE FOR U/RNAME ENTRY ID = 0C10-S STARTED IST464I LINK STATION 0C10-S HAS CONTACTED NCPNET6 SA 46 IST521I GBIND QUEUED FOR COS ISTVTCOS FROM MCC6 TO NCPNET6 IST528I VIRTUAL ROUTE NUMBER 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 IST523I REASON = NO ROUTES OPERATIVE 05 IST937A NCPNET6 CORRELATOR MISMATCH 04/27/06 21:36:13 - 07/16/08 15:00:50 REP LY 'RELOAD', 'INACT', OR 'IGNORE' TIME IS 10:00:00 EDT THURSDAY 04/28/2011 CONNECT= 99:59:59 VIRTCPU= 999:59.99 TOTCPU= 999:59.99 Ready; r 05,ignore GCTRPY206E Reply not accepted, ID not specified Ready(8); Thank you, Scott -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:46 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM VTAM Question I think you are right Ivan. I just tried it. Vtam prefix has to be on the Vtam commands GCS just r 00,ignore Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Ivan Warren Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM VTAM Question On 4/28/2011 5:46 AM, Marcy Cortes wrote: > I'm pretty sure it's > > vtam r 00,ignore > > > It's been a long while though! > > Marcy Isn't 'reply' a standard GCS command (part of the OS emulation in GCS) In which case, it would definitely be 'r 00,ignore' issued from the virtual machine hosting VTAM. (But I could be wrong.. It's been a few years)... --Ivan ��ۙ�Y[�X[] H��N�\�K[XZ[ [�� Y[��[�H] X�Y[� �] X^H�Z[�X]\�X[ ]\��ۙ�Y[�X[ �� �Y]\�K �]�[Y�Y[� �܈� ��X�YX[ [��ܛX][ۋ� �][� HYX[�[��و H �Y�[][ۜ� [�\� HX[ [��\�[��HܝX�[] H �X���[�X�[] HX�\�[Y[�Y �Y�]\����X\� ] [�H\�H H[�[�Y �X�\Y[� [�H\�H\�X�H��Y�YY ] [�H]�H �X�Z]�Y \� �[��Z] [[�\��܋[�[�H �]�Y]�\��[Z[�][ۋ\� �X�][ۈ܈�� Z[��و \�K[XZ[ [�� Y[��[�H] X�Y[� �] \� � �X� H ��X�]Y �Y� [�H]�H �X�Z]�Y \�K[XZ[[�\��܋ X\�H[[YYX][ H �] \��] � H �[�\�[�[]H]���H [�\� �\�[K�[�� [�K�
Re: VM VTAM Question
But - here is what I get... v act,id=ncpnet6 GCTACC425I 0191 replaces A (0191) GCTACC423I A (0191) R/O Ready; IST097I VARY ACCEPTED IST461I ACTIVATE FOR U/RNAME ENTRY ID = 0C10-S STARTED IST464I LINK STATION 0C10-S HAS CONTACTED NCPNET6 SA 46 IST521I GBIND QUEUED FOR COS ISTVTCOS FROM MCC6 TO NCPNET6 IST528I VIRTUAL ROUTE NUMBER 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 IST523I REASON = NO ROUTES OPERATIVE 05 IST937A NCPNET6 CORRELATOR MISMATCH 04/27/06 21:36:13 - 07/16/08 15:00:50 REP LY 'RELOAD', 'INACT', OR 'IGNORE' TIME IS 10:00:00 EDT THURSDAY 04/28/2011 CONNECT= 99:59:59 VIRTCPU= 999:59.99 TOTCPU= 999:59.99 Ready; r 05,ignore GCTRPY206E Reply not accepted, ID not specified Ready(8); Thank you, Scott -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:46 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM VTAM Question I think you are right Ivan. I just tried it. Vtam prefix has to be on the Vtam commands GCS just r 00,ignore Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Ivan Warren Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM VTAM Question On 4/28/2011 5:46 AM, Marcy Cortes wrote: > I'm pretty sure it's > > vtam r 00,ignore > > > It's been a long while though! > > Marcy Isn't 'reply' a standard GCS command (part of the OS emulation in GCS) In which case, it would definitely be 'r 00,ignore' issued from the virtual machine hosting VTAM. (But I could be wrong.. It's been a few years)... --Ivan
Re: VM VTAM Question
I think you are right Ivan. I just tried it. Vtam prefix has to be on the Vtam commands GCS just r 00,ignore Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Ivan Warren Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM VTAM Question On 4/28/2011 5:46 AM, Marcy Cortes wrote: > I'm pretty sure it's > > vtam r 00,ignore > > > It's been a long while though! > > Marcy Isn't 'reply' a standard GCS command (part of the OS emulation in GCS) In which case, it would definitely be 'r 00,ignore' issued from the virtual machine hosting VTAM. (But I could be wrong.. It's been a few years)... --Ivan
Re: VM VTAM Question
On 4/28/2011 5:46 AM, Marcy Cortes wrote: I'm pretty sure it's vtam r 00,ignore It's been a long while though! Marcy Isn't 'reply' a standard GCS command (part of the OS emulation in GCS) In which case, it would definitely be 'r 00,ignore' issued from the virtual machine hosting VTAM. (But I could be wrong.. It's been a few years)... --Ivan
Re: VM VTAM Question
I'm pretty sure it's vtam r 00,ignore It's been a long while though! Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM VTAM Question Did you try R 00,ignore Lizette > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On > Behalf Of Wandschneider, Scott > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:30 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: VM VTAM Question > > Last week we were attempting to activate our NCP from VM/VTAM and received the > following message. My question is, how does one respond? I tried 00,ignore > or 00 > ignore or vtam 00 ignore or net 00 ignore - Nothing worked > > 00 IST937A NCPNET6 CORRELATOR MISMATCH 04/27/06 21:36:13 - 07/16/08 15:00:50 > REPLY 'RELOAD', 'INACT', OR 'IGNORE' > > Thank you, > Scott R Wandschneider > Systems Programmer 3|| Technology Infrastructure Services, Wipro || 11707 > Miracle > Hills Drive, Omaha, NE, 68154-4457|| : 402.963.8905 || :847.849.7223 || : > scott.wandschnei...@wipro.com **Think Green - Please print responsibly** > > > Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may > contain material > that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or "Protected Health > Information," within > the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability & > Accountability > Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you > are hereby > notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, > dissemination, > distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is > strictly > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately > return it to the > sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: VM VTAM Question
Did you try R 00,ignore Lizette > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On > Behalf Of Wandschneider, Scott > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:30 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: VM VTAM Question > > Last week we were attempting to activate our NCP from VM/VTAM and received the > following message. My question is, how does one respond? I tried 00,ignore > or 00 > ignore or vtam 00 ignore or net 00 ignore - Nothing worked > > 00 IST937A NCPNET6 CORRELATOR MISMATCH 04/27/06 21:36:13 - 07/16/08 15:00:50 > REPLY 'RELOAD', 'INACT', OR 'IGNORE' > > Thank you, > Scott R Wandschneider > Systems Programmer 3|| Technology Infrastructure Services, Wipro || 11707 > Miracle > Hills Drive, Omaha, NE, 68154-4457|| : 402.963.8905 || :847.849.7223 || : > scott.wandschnei...@wipro.com **Think Green - Please print responsibly** > > > Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may > contain material > that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or "Protected Health > Information," within > the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability & > Accountability > Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you > are hereby > notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, > dissemination, > distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is > strictly > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately > return it to the > sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
VM VTAM Question
Last week we were attempting to activate our NCP from VM/VTAM and received the following message. My question is, how does one respond? I tried 00,ignore or 00 ignore or vtam 00 ignore or net 00 ignore - Nothing worked 00 IST937A NCPNET6 CORRELATOR MISMATCH 04/27/06 21:36:13 - 07/16/08 15:00:50 REPLY 'RELOAD', 'INACT', OR 'IGNORE' Thank you, Scott R Wandschneider Systems Programmer 3|| Technology Infrastructure Services, Wipro || 11707 Miracle Hills Drive, Omaha, NE, 68154-4457|| : 402.963.8905 || :847.849.7223 || : scott.wandschnei...@wipro.com **Think Green - Please print responsibly** Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or "Protected Health Information," within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
DB2 VM/VSE migration question
This is being cross posted to the VSE and VM lists. Would anyone care to share their experiences in migrating from DB/2 on VM/VSE to DB/2 on I-series and DB2LUW? We are looking at one option, and I am curious if anyone has opinions (good or bad) about this type of migration. If you prefer, you may reply offline. Thanks for any help you may be able to offer. Ed Zell Illinois Mutual Life (309) 636-0107 . CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
Re: VM question - QIDLE
I will take this opportunity to first agree with Dennis, (Thank you Dennis) and say that for VSE installations running under z/VM, we have a phenomenal offering called the ZVPS Starter Kit that won't break any even little banks. O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: Velocity Software has an ESAFORCE component which can force idle users. I imagine it could just list them, too. Dennis "If you give a mouse a cookie, he's going to ask for a glass of milk." *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Frank M. Ramaekers *Sent:* Monday, April 11, 2011 08:47 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: [IBMVM] VM question - QIDLE Redirect… Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. *From:* owner-vs...@lehigh.edu [mailto:owner-vs...@lehigh.edu] *On Behalf Of *Wakser, David *Sent:* Monday, April 11, 2011 10:41 AM *To:* VSE Discussion List *Subject:* VM question - QIDLE Since our email addresses were changed, I have not been successful in re-subscribing to the VM discussion list, so I am posting this here. If someone would be so kind as to post this on the VM list, I would be greatly appreciative. We have a module in z/VM called QIDLE (dated 2002) which lists current CMS users and the number of minutes that they have been idle. It was originally written by Randy Foster when he did work for our company (or our client). However, we do not have the source, and Angela just informed me that Randy passed away quite a while ago. Does anyone have access to the source for such a program (that can be shared), or does anyone have another method of determining how many minutes a CMS user has been idle? Thanks, in advance. David Wakser (201) 840-4781 Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or "Protected Health Information," within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. References to "Sender" are references to any subsidiary of Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this EC may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. By messaging with Sender you consent to the foregoing.
Re: VM question - QIDLE
Velocity Software has an ESAFORCE component which can force idle users. I imagine it could just list them, too. Dennis "If you give a mouse a cookie, he's going to ask for a glass of milk." From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 08:47 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM question - QIDLE Redirect... Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: owner-vs...@lehigh.edu [mailto:owner-vs...@lehigh.edu] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:41 AM To: VSE Discussion List Subject: VM question - QIDLE Since our email addresses were changed, I have not been successful in re-subscribing to the VM discussion list, so I am posting this here. If someone would be so kind as to post this on the VM list, I would be greatly appreciative. We have a module in z/VM called QIDLE (dated 2002) which lists current CMS users and the number of minutes that they have been idle. It was originally written by Randy Foster when he did work for our company (or our client). However, we do not have the source, and Angela just informed me that Randy passed away quite a while ago. Does anyone have access to the source for such a program (that can be shared), or does anyone have another method of determining how many minutes a CMS user has been idle? Thanks, in advance. David Wakser (201) 840-4781 Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or "Protected Health Information," within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. References to "Sender" are references to any subsidiary of Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this EC may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. By messaging with Sender you consent to the foregoing.
Re: VM question - QIDLE
Redirect... Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: owner-vs...@lehigh.edu [mailto:owner-vs...@lehigh.edu] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:41 AM To: VSE Discussion List Subject: VM question - QIDLE Since our email addresses were changed, I have not been successful in re-subscribing to the VM discussion list, so I am posting this here. If someone would be so kind as to post this on the VM list, I would be greatly appreciative. We have a module in z/VM called QIDLE (dated 2002) which lists current CMS users and the number of minutes that they have been idle. It was originally written by Randy Foster when he did work for our company (or our client). However, we do not have the source, and Angela just informed me that Randy passed away quite a while ago. Does anyone have access to the source for such a program (that can be shared), or does anyone have another method of determining how many minutes a CMS user has been idle? Thanks, in advance. David Wakser (201) 840-4781 Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or "Protected Health Information," within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
Thanks guys. It's fixed.All I did was a DIRM RLDE to reload the extents file. I think that took care of it. From: Scott Rohling To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/08/2011 11:37 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System And you don't have to take DIRMAINT down to erase files--you can issue DIRM CMS ERASE xxx VCONTROL E (don't have a system handy - I think 1DF is accessed as E -- otherwise do a DIRM CMS Q DISK or DIRM CMS LISTFILE * VCONTROL * to figure it out) Scott Rohling On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Scott Rohling wrote: I would try a DIRM RLDE first... that should rebuild the VCONTROL files...I'm 'pretty' sure it erases them all first --- but if not - then yes, you can erase them, though I would report it as a bug and leave one around to be able to recreate. Scott Rohling On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:20 AM, wrote: You can erase them but you will have to take down DIRMAINT first Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 11:11 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Found them. So how do I get rid of them? From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 11:08 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, The VCONTROL files can be found on the DIRMAINT 1DF minidisk. LINK * 1DF 1DF RR ACCESS 1DF m FILELIST * * m Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 11:05 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System VCONTROL file? where do I find this? From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 11:00 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, You are saying that at not time in the past, these volumes were not referenced in any of your user directory entries? What is the creation date of the vcontrol file? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:57 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Yes, the DIRMAP shows: VM1L0A 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L06 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L07 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L08 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L09 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 But why are they there? They're not supposed to be there. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:54 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Did you run a DIRM DIRMAP? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:47 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Joe, Searched the directory but didn't find them. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:44 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, I believe that they are created in response to volume references found in one or several of your directory entries. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:39 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
And you don't have to take DIRMAINT down to erase files--you can issue DIRM CMS ERASE xxx VCONTROL E (don't have a system handy - I think 1DF is accessed as E -- otherwise do a DIRM CMS Q DISK or DIRM CMS LISTFILE * VCONTROL * to figure it out) Scott Rohling On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Scott Rohling wrote: > I would try a DIRM RLDE first... that should rebuild the VCONTROL files... >I'm 'pretty' sure it erases them all first --- but if not - then yes, you > can erase them, though I would report it as a bug and leave one around to be > able to recreate. > > Scott Rohling > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:20 AM, wrote: > >> You can erase them but you will have to take down DIRMAINT first >> >> *Joseph Di Pippo >> Operating Systems Programmer III >> FRIT Computing Services >> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support >> 1-201-531-3820* >> >> >> >> From:Karl Kingston >> To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Date:04/08/2011 11:11 AM >> Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD >> Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System >> -- >> >> >> >> Found them. So how do I get rid of them? >> >> >> >> >> >> From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org >> To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Date:04/08/2011 11:08 AM >> Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD >> Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System >> -- >> >> >> >> Karl, >> >> The VCONTROL files can be found on the DIRMAINT 1DF minidisk. >> >> LINK * 1DF 1DF RR >> ACCESS 1DF m >> FILELIST * * m * >> >> Joseph Di Pippo >> Operating Systems Programmer III >> FRIT Computing Services >> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support >> 1-201-531-3820* >> >> >> >> From:Karl Kingston >> To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Date:04/08/2011 11:05 AM >> Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD >> Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System >> -- >> >> >> >> VCONTROL file? where do I find this? >> >> >> >> >> >> From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org >> To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Date:04/08/2011 11:00 AM >> Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD >> Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System >> -- >> >> >> >> Karl, >> >> You are saying that at not time in the past, these volumes were not >> referenced in any of your user directory entries? What is the creation date >> of the vcontrol file? * >> >> Joseph Di Pippo >> Operating Systems Programmer III >> FRIT Computing Services >> z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support >> 1-201-531-3820* >> >> >> >> From:Karl Kingston >> To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Date:04/08/2011 10:57 AM >> Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD >> Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System >> -- >> >> >> >> Yes, the DIRMAP shows: >> >> VM1L0A 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap >> >> 0 >> >> VM1L06 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap >> >> 0 >> >> VM1L07 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap >> >> 0 >> >> VM1L08 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap >> >> 0 >> >> VM1L09 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap >> >> 0 >> >> >> But why are they there? They're not supposed to be there. >> >> >> >> >> From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org >> To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Date:04/08/2011 10:54 AM >> Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD >> Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System >> -- >> >> >> >> Karl, >> >> Did you run a DIRM DI
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
I would try a DIRM RLDE first... that should rebuild the VCONTROL files... I'm 'pretty' sure it erases them all first --- but if not - then yes, you can erase them, though I would report it as a bug and leave one around to be able to recreate. Scott Rohling On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:20 AM, wrote: > You can erase them but you will have to take down DIRMAINT first > > *Joseph Di Pippo > Operating Systems Programmer III > FRIT Computing Services > z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support > 1-201-531-3820* > > > > From:Karl Kingston > To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Date: 04/08/2011 11:11 AM > Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD > Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System > -- > > > > Found them. So how do I get rid of them? > > > > > > From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Date:04/08/2011 11:08 AM > Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD > Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System > -- > > > > Karl, > > The VCONTROL files can be found on the DIRMAINT 1DF minidisk. > > LINK * 1DF 1DF RR > ACCESS 1DF m > FILELIST * * m * > > Joseph Di Pippo > Operating Systems Programmer III > FRIT Computing Services > z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support > 1-201-531-3820* > > > > From:Karl Kingston > To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Date:04/08/2011 11:05 AM > Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD > Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System > -- > > > > VCONTROL file? where do I find this? > > > > > > From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org > To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Date:04/08/2011 11:00 AM > Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD > Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System > -- > > > > Karl, > > You are saying that at not time in the past, these volumes were not > referenced in any of your user directory entries? What is the creation date > of the vcontrol file? * > > Joseph Di Pippo > Operating Systems Programmer III > FRIT Computing Services > z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support > 1-201-531-3820* > > > > From:Karl Kingston > To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Date:04/08/2011 10:57 AM > Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD > Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System > -- > > > > Yes, the DIRMAP shows: > > VM1L0A 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap > > 0 > > VM1L06 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap > > 0 > > VM1L07 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap > > 0 > > VM1L08 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap > > 0 > > VM1L09 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap > > 0 > > > But why are they there? They're not supposed to be there. > > > > > From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org > To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Date:04/08/2011 10:54 AM > Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD > Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System > -- > > > > Karl, > > Did you run a DIRM DIRMAP? * > > > Joseph Di Pippo > Operating Systems Programmer III > FRIT Computing Services > z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support > 1-201-531-3820* > > > > From:Karl Kingston > To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Date:04/08/2011 10:47 AM > Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD > Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System > -- > > > > Joe, > > Searched the directory but didn't find them. > > > > > > From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org > To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Date:04/08/2011 10:44 AM > Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD > Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System > -- > > > > Karl, > > I believe that they are created in response to volume references found
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
You can erase them but you will have to take down DIRMAINT first Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From: Karl Kingston To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/08/2011 11:11 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Found them. So how do I get rid of them? From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 11:08 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, The VCONTROL files can be found on the DIRMAINT 1DF minidisk. LINK * 1DF 1DF RR ACCESS 1DF m FILELIST * * m Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 11:05 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System VCONTROL file? where do I find this? From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 11:00 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, You are saying that at not time in the past, these volumes were not referenced in any of your user directory entries? What is the creation date of the vcontrol file? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:57 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Yes, the DIRMAP shows: VM1L0A 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L06 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L07 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L08 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L09 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 But why are they there? They're not supposed to be there. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:54 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Did you run a DIRM DIRMAP? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:47 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Joe, Searched the directory but didn't find them. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:44 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, I believe that they are created in response to volume references found in one or several of your directory entries. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:39 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Bill, They are not.. Only volumes I have in the SYSTEM CONFIG is the PAGING and Spool volumes as well as SYSRES. From:william JANULIN To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:34 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file? Bill J. --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston wrote: From: Karl Kingston Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM Hi All. Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents were and we got this on one of our systems: VOLUME DEVTYPE -- FREE EXTENTS --- $$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500 $$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382 VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
Found them. So how do I get rid of them? From: joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/08/2011 11:08 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, The VCONTROL files can be found on the DIRMAINT 1DF minidisk. LINK * 1DF 1DF RR ACCESS 1DF m FILELIST * * m Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 11:05 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System VCONTROL file? where do I find this? From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 11:00 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, You are saying that at not time in the past, these volumes were not referenced in any of your user directory entries? What is the creation date of the vcontrol file? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:57 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Yes, the DIRMAP shows: VM1L0A 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L06 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L07 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L08 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L09 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 But why are they there? They're not supposed to be there. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:54 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Did you run a DIRM DIRMAP? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:47 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Joe, Searched the directory but didn't find them. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:44 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, I believe that they are created in response to volume references found in one or several of your directory entries. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:39 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Bill, They are not.. Only volumes I have in the SYSTEM CONFIG is the PAGING and Spool volumes as well as SYSRES. From:william JANULIN To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:34 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file? Bill J. --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston wrote: From: Karl Kingston Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM Hi All. Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents were and we got this on one of our systems: VOLUME DEVTYPE -- FREE EXTENTS --- $$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500 $$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382 VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283 In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx defined. Even checked the directory and there's no references to these DASD.Why is DIRMAINT picking this up? An
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
Karl, The VCONTROL files can be found on the DIRMAINT 1DF minidisk. LINK * 1DF 1DF RR ACCESS 1DF m FILELIST * * m Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From: Karl Kingston To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/08/2011 11:05 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System VCONTROL file? where do I find this? From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 11:00 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, You are saying that at not time in the past, these volumes were not referenced in any of your user directory entries? What is the creation date of the vcontrol file? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:57 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Yes, the DIRMAP shows: VM1L0A 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L06 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L07 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L08 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L09 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 But why are they there? They're not supposed to be there. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:54 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Did you run a DIRM DIRMAP? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:47 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Joe, Searched the directory but didn't find them. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:44 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, I believe that they are created in response to volume references found in one or several of your directory entries. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:39 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Bill, They are not.. Only volumes I have in the SYSTEM CONFIG is the PAGING and Spool volumes as well as SYSRES. From:william JANULIN To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:34 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file? Bill J. --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston wrote: From: Karl Kingston Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM Hi All. Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents were and we got this on one of our systems: VOLUME DEVTYPE -- FREE EXTENTS --- $$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500 $$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382 VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283 In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx defined. Even checked the directory and there's no references to these DASD.Why is DIRMAINT picking this up? And where is it getting its information from?Would like to get them off of this list since they're on our other VM system. Thanks
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
VCONTROL file? where do I find this? From: joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/08/2011 11:00 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, You are saying that at not time in the past, these volumes were not referenced in any of your user directory entries? What is the creation date of the vcontrol file? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:57 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Yes, the DIRMAP shows: VM1L0A 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L06 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L07 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L08 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L09 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 But why are they there? They're not supposed to be there. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:54 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Did you run a DIRM DIRMAP? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:47 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Joe, Searched the directory but didn't find them. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:44 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, I believe that they are created in response to volume references found in one or several of your directory entries. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:39 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Bill, They are not.. Only volumes I have in the SYSTEM CONFIG is the PAGING and Spool volumes as well as SYSRES. From:william JANULIN To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:34 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file? Bill J. --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston wrote: From: Karl Kingston Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM Hi All. Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents were and we got this on one of our systems: VOLUME DEVTYPE -- FREE EXTENTS --- $$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500 $$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382 VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283 In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx defined. Even checked the directory and there's no references to these DASD.Why is DIRMAINT picking this up? And where is it getting its information from?Would like to get them off of this list since they're on our other VM system. Thanks
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
Karl, You are saying that at not time in the past, these volumes were not referenced in any of your user directory entries? What is the creation date of the vcontrol file? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From: Karl Kingston To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/08/2011 10:57 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Yes, the DIRMAP shows: VM1L0A 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L06 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L07 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L08 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L09 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 But why are they there? They're not supposed to be there. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:54 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Did you run a DIRM DIRMAP? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:47 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Joe, Searched the directory but didn't find them. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:44 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, I believe that they are created in response to volume references found in one or several of your directory entries. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:39 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Bill, They are not.. Only volumes I have in the SYSTEM CONFIG is the PAGING and Spool volumes as well as SYSRES. From:william JANULIN To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:34 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file? Bill J. --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston wrote: From: Karl Kingston Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM Hi All. Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents were and we got this on one of our systems: VOLUME DEVTYPE -- FREE EXTENTS --- $$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500 $$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382 VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283 In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx defined. Even checked the directory and there's no references to these DASD.Why is DIRMAINT picking this up? And where is it getting its information from?Would like to get them off of this list since they're on our other VM system. Thanks
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
Yes, the DIRMAP shows: VM1L0A 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L06 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L07 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L08 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 VM1L09 3390 0 1112 1113 Gap 0 But why are they there? They're not supposed to be there. From: joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/08/2011 10:54 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Did you run a DIRM DIRMAP? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:47 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Joe, Searched the directory but didn't find them. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:44 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, I believe that they are created in response to volume references found in one or several of your directory entries. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:39 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Bill, They are not.. Only volumes I have in the SYSTEM CONFIG is the PAGING and Spool volumes as well as SYSRES. From:william JANULIN To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:34 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file? Bill J. --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston wrote: From: Karl Kingston Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM Hi All. Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents were and we got this on one of our systems: VOLUME DEVTYPE -- FREE EXTENTS --- $$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500 $$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382 VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283 In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx defined. Even checked the directory and there's no references to these DASD.Why is DIRMAINT picking this up? And where is it getting its information from?Would like to get them off of this list since they're on our other VM system. Thanks
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
Karl, Did you run a DIRM DIRMAP? Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From: Karl Kingston To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/08/2011 10:47 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Joe, Searched the directory but didn't find them. From:joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:44 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, I believe that they are created in response to volume references found in one or several of your directory entries. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:39 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Bill, They are not.. Only volumes I have in the SYSTEM CONFIG is the PAGING and Spool volumes as well as SYSRES. From:william JANULIN To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:34 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file? Bill J. --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston wrote: From: Karl Kingston Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM Hi All. Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents were and we got this on one of our systems: VOLUME DEVTYPE -- FREE EXTENTS --- $$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500 $$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382 VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283 In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx defined. Even checked the directory and there's no references to these DASD.Why is DIRMAINT picking this up? And where is it getting its information from?Would like to get them off of this list since they're on our other VM system. Thanks
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
Joe, Searched the directory but didn't find them. From: joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/08/2011 10:44 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, I believe that they are created in response to volume references found in one or several of your directory entries. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From:Karl Kingston To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:39 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Bill, They are not.. Only volumes I have in the SYSTEM CONFIG is the PAGING and Spool volumes as well as SYSRES. From:william JANULIN To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:34 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file? Bill J. --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston wrote: From: Karl Kingston Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM Hi All. Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents were and we got this on one of our systems: VOLUME DEVTYPE -- FREE EXTENTS --- $$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500 $$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382 VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283 In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx defined. Even checked the directory and there's no references to these DASD.Why is DIRMAINT picking this up? And where is it getting its information from?Would like to get them off of this list since they're on our other VM system. Thanks
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
Karl, I believe that they are created in response to volume references found in one or several of your directory entries. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services z/OS, z/VM, Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 From: Karl Kingston To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/08/2011 10:39 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Bill, They are not.. Only volumes I have in the SYSTEM CONFIG is the PAGING and Spool volumes as well as SYSRES. From:william JANULIN To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:04/08/2011 10:34 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file? Bill J. --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston wrote: From: Karl Kingston Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM Hi All. Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents were and we got this on one of our systems: VOLUME DEVTYPE -- FREE EXTENTS --- $$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500 $$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382 VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283 In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx defined. Even checked the directory and there's no references to these DASD.Why is DIRMAINT picking this up? And where is it getting its information from?Would like to get them off of this list since they're on our other VM system. Thanks
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
Bill, They are not.. Only volumes I have in the SYSTEM CONFIG is the PAGING and Spool volumes as well as SYSRES. From: william JANULIN To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/08/2011 10:34 AM Subject:Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System Karl, Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file? Bill J. --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston wrote: From: Karl Kingston Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM Hi All. Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents were and we got this on one of our systems: VOLUME DEVTYPE -- FREE EXTENTS --- $$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500 $$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382 VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283 In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx defined. Even checked the directory and there's no references to these DASD.Why is DIRMAINT picking this up? And where is it getting its information from?Would like to get them off of this list since they're on our other VM system. Thanks
Re: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
Karl, Are they in your SYSTEM CONFIG file? Bill J. --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Karl Kingston wrote: From: Karl Kingston Subject: DIRMAINT question regarding DASD To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 10:28 AM Hi All. Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents were and we got this on one of our systems: VOLUME DEVTYPE -- FREE EXTENTS --- $$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500 $$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382 VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283 In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx defined. Even checked the directory and there's no references to these DASD. Why is DIRMAINT picking this up? And where is it getting its information from? Would like to get them off of this list since they're on our other VM system. Thanks
DIRMAINT question regarding DASD
Hi All. Just noticed something when we did a "DIRM FREEXT" to see what free extents were and we got this on one of our systems: VOLUME DEVTYPE -- FREE EXTENTS --- $$ 3380 START= 1 AVAIL= 500 $$ 3380 START= 503 AVAIL= 382 VM1L0A 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L06 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L07 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L08 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM1L09 3390 START= 1 AVAIL= 1112 VM2K01 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K02 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2K03 3390-03 START= 1 AVAIL= 3338 VM2L00 3390-09 START= 6734 AVAIL= 3283 In the EXTENT CONTROL file, I have VM2xxx defined but I do not have VM1xxx defined. Even checked the directory and there's no references to these DASD.Why is DIRMAINT picking this up? And where is it getting its information from?Would like to get them off of this list since they're on our other VM system. Thanks
Re: XEDIT question
I don't think XCOL helps a lot to learn how to use/make XEDIT panels. Maybe my old SMARTX package is easier (a panel front-end for RTM/ESA), or, better, it has more features to use panels. Like the panel itself being a file that is XEDITed, so the panel can be longer han a screen, and PF8/PF7 can be used to scroll down/up. Addresses very closely Tom's basic goal (protect/unportect some field). It is based on an undocumented feature (the same that HELP uses): when a READ NOCHANGE TAG is active, XEDIT doesn't require SET RESERVED commands to cover all screen lines. No, with READ NOCHNAGE TAG, XEDIT will honor the control characters that are imbedded in the file that is displayed. With SMARTX, there is a file SMART COMMANDS with the imbedded "panel" data. SMART XEDIT is the macro that displays the panel, gets the user input, etc. Another tool I've got to make panels easy is my SELFS exec. It doesn't use XEDIT buth the CMS WINDOW & VSCREEN commands. SELFS is alos very well suited to make scrollable panels. The initial goal was to have an easy tool to select one or more lines from a list, hence the name SELFS, SELect FullScreen. SELFS has some demo tool to illustrate its capablities. And, at last there is my collegue's RxMessageBox (RXMB), what produces nicely looking popup boxes, also based on CMS WINDOW & VSCREEN commands I'll send those. 2011/4/7 David Boyes > Have a look at XCOL from the vm download library. You could probably use > that as a starting place. > > > > *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On > Behalf Of *Tom Huegel > *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:50 AM > *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > *Subject:* Re: XEDIT question > > > > Yes I have toyed with IOS3270 in the past. This application just isn't > worth the effort. There will never be more than 16 records to display/update > and only 2 or 3 occasional users. > > > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: XEDIT question
Have a look at XCOL from the vm download library. You could probably use that as a starting place. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Huegel Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: XEDIT question Yes I have toyed with IOS3270 in the past. This application just isn't worth the effort. There will never be more than 16 records to display/update and only 2 or 3 occasional users.
Re: XEDIT question
Yes I have toyed with IOS3270 in the past. This application just isn't worth the effort. There will never be more than 16 records to display/update and only 2 or 3 occasional users. Thanks to everyone that responded. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Les Koehler wrote: > Try IOS3270 from the VM Download Library. It's pretty neat. > > Les > > > Tom Huegel wrote: > >> It looks like XEDIT is too much effort for now, maybe I'll get back to it >> later. >> I wanted all other fiedls to be update-able. >> Maybe I'll use my old program that does DIAG58's ... Not today though. >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Les Koehler >> wrote: >> >> Sure, just like FILELIST et. al. do! But Tom's opening statement was: >>> >>> I don't do XEDIT macro's that often... >>> >>> I suspect he might be better off with something like IOS3270. That labels >>> me as an old codger, doesn't it! >>> I've been retired to long to know what the modern equivalent might be. >>> >>> Les >>> >>> >>> Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: >>> >>> Not true. You can do it, but it's a lot of work. You have to process >>>> the screen contents yourself (READ ALL TAG) and update file and screen >>>> contents yourself. >>>> >>>> Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On >>>> Behalf Of Les Koehler >>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:23 AM >>>> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >>>> Subject: Re: XEDIT question >>>> >>>> You can do it IF you're willing to change the file itself just to >>>> display >>>> it. Then, of course, you can't make text changes and save it in its >>>> original >>>> form. There are better tools available if that's what you want to do. >>>> >>>> Les >>>> >>>> Tom Huegel wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't do XEDIT macro's that often so this may be obvious to some, >>>>> >>>>> but I >>>> >>>> can't seem to find the 'how to' answer. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way, (how to do it?) to set screen attributes on a file? >>>>> The SET RESERVED is fine it I want to affect the whole row, but I want >>>>> >>>>> to >>>> >>>> highlight-skip columns of data from the edited file. >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _ >>>> >>>> This message contains information which is privileged and confidential >>>> and >>>> is solely for the use of the >>>> >>>> intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that >>>> any review, disclosure, >>>> >>>> copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is >>>> strictly >>>> prohibited. If you have >>>> >>>> received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at >>>> privacy...@ailife.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>
Re: XEDIT question
Try IOS3270 from the VM Download Library. It's pretty neat. Les Tom Huegel wrote: It looks like XEDIT is too much effort for now, maybe I'll get back to it later. I wanted all other fiedls to be update-able. Maybe I'll use my old program that does DIAG58's ... Not today though. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Les Koehler wrote: Sure, just like FILELIST et. al. do! But Tom's opening statement was: I don't do XEDIT macro's that often... I suspect he might be better off with something like IOS3270. That labels me as an old codger, doesn't it! I've been retired to long to know what the modern equivalent might be. Les Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: Not true. You can do it, but it's a lot of work. You have to process the screen contents yourself (READ ALL TAG) and update file and screen contents yourself. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Les Koehler Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: XEDIT question You can do it IF you're willing to change the file itself just to display it. Then, of course, you can't make text changes and save it in its original form. There are better tools available if that's what you want to do. Les Tom Huegel wrote: I don't do XEDIT macro's that often so this may be obvious to some, but I can't seem to find the 'how to' answer. Is there a way, (how to do it?) to set screen attributes on a file? The SET RESERVED is fine it I want to affect the whole row, but I want to highlight-skip columns of data from the edited file. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: XEDIT question
It looks like XEDIT is too much effort for now, maybe I'll get back to it later. I wanted all other fiedls to be update-able. Maybe I'll use my old program that does DIAG58's ... Not today though. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Les Koehler wrote: > Sure, just like FILELIST et. al. do! But Tom's opening statement was: > > I don't do XEDIT macro's that often... > > I suspect he might be better off with something like IOS3270. That labels > me as an old codger, doesn't it! > I've been retired to long to know what the modern equivalent might be. > > Les > > > Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: > >> Not true. You can do it, but it's a lot of work. You have to process >> the screen contents yourself (READ ALL TAG) and update file and screen >> contents yourself. >> >> Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Les Koehler >> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:23 AM >> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Subject: Re: XEDIT question >> >> You can do it IF you're willing to change the file itself just to display >> it. Then, of course, you can't make text changes and save it in its original >> form. There are better tools available if that's what you want to do. >> >> Les >> >> Tom Huegel wrote: >> >>> I don't do XEDIT macro's that often so this may be obvious to some, >>> >> but I >> >>> can't seem to find the 'how to' answer. >>> >>> Is there a way, (how to do it?) to set screen attributes on a file? >>> The SET RESERVED is fine it I want to affect the whole row, but I want >>> >> to >> >>> highlight-skip columns of data from the edited file. >>> >>> Can anyone point me in the right direction? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >> _ >> >> This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and >> is solely for the use of the >> >> intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that >> any review, disclosure, >> >> copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly >> prohibited. If you have >> >> received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at >> privacy...@ailife.com. >> >>
Re: XEDIT question
Sure, just like FILELIST et. al. do! But Tom's opening statement was: I don't do XEDIT macro's that often... I suspect he might be better off with something like IOS3270. That labels me as an old codger, doesn't it! I've been retired to long to know what the modern equivalent might be. Les Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: Not true. You can do it, but it's a lot of work. You have to process the screen contents yourself (READ ALL TAG) and update file and screen contents yourself. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Les Koehler Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: XEDIT question You can do it IF you're willing to change the file itself just to display it. Then, of course, you can't make text changes and save it in its original form. There are better tools available if that's what you want to do. Les Tom Huegel wrote: I don't do XEDIT macro's that often so this may be obvious to some, but I can't seem to find the 'how to' answer. Is there a way, (how to do it?) to set screen attributes on a file? The SET RESERVED is fine it I want to affect the whole row, but I want to highlight-skip columns of data from the edited file. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: XEDIT question
Not true. You can do it, but it's a lot of work. You have to process the screen contents yourself (READ ALL TAG) and update file and screen contents yourself. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Les Koehler Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: XEDIT question You can do it IF you're willing to change the file itself just to display it. Then, of course, you can't make text changes and save it in its original form. There are better tools available if that's what you want to do. Les Tom Huegel wrote: > I don't do XEDIT macro's that often so this may be obvious to some, but I > can't seem to find the 'how to' answer. > > Is there a way, (how to do it?) to set screen attributes on a file? > The SET RESERVED is fine it I want to affect the whole row, but I want to > highlight-skip columns of data from the edited file. > > Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > Thanks > _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: XEDIT question
You can do it IF you're willing to change the file itself just to display it. Then, of course, you can't make text changes and save it in its original form. There are better tools available if that's what you want to do. Les Tom Huegel wrote: I don't do XEDIT macro's that often so this may be obvious to some, but I can't seem to find the 'how to' answer. Is there a way, (how to do it?) to set screen attributes on a file? The SET RESERVED is fine it I want to affect the whole row, but I want to highlight-skip columns of data from the edited file. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks
Re: XEDIT question
Tom, the best way is a practice, just try to explore "how it works". As example you can use existing highlights, like: *help perfkit tasks* and compare the output and source file: PERFKIT HELPTASK. The keyword is QUERY CTLCHAR. 2011/4/6 Tom Huegel > Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > -- WBR, =Maxim Bochagov IBM Russia, PTK development team
Re: XEDIT question
Here's an example of setting up attributes for display: esc="FF"x;scc esc "ESC" !._PGN= esc"P";scc "P PROTECT GREEN NONE" !._PGR= esc"R";scc "R PROTECT GREEN REVVIDEO" !._PWN= esc"W";scc "W PROTECT WHITE NONE" !._PBN= esc"B";scc "B PROTECT BLUENONE" !._NWN= esc"E";scc "E NOPROTECT WHITE NONE" !._NRN= esc"*";scc "* NOPROTECT RED NONE" !._NdN= esc"1";scc "1 NOPROTECT DEFAULT NONE" !._NGN= esc"2";scc "2 NOPROTECT GREEN NONE" !._PdNI=esc"D";scc "D PROTECT DEFAULT NONE INVISIBLE" (I use !. as global prefix...i.e. PROCEDURE EXPOSE !.) Then, here I setup a PF key display (for the bottom of the screen): !._MMTail.1=!._PGN"PF:"||, " 1"!._PGR"HELP"!._PGN||, " 2"!._PGR"Refresh "!._PGN||, " 3"!._PGR"QUIT"!._PGN||, " 4"!._PGR"Sort+Cat"!._PGN||, " 5"!._PGR"Sort+Des"!._PGN||, " 6"!._PGR""!._PGN !._MMTail.2=!._PGN" "||, " 7"!._PGR"Backward"!._PGN||, " 8"!._PGR"Forward "!._PGN||, " 9"!._PGR"Toggle "!._PGN||, "10"!._PGR"Sort+# "!._PGN||, "11"!._PGR"View"!._PGN||, "12"!._PGR"Sort-Blk"!._PGN Then you simply "SET RESERVED n" on the line you wish to display the information. Now, if the file is small enough, you can simply put the entire file into STEM variables, then it's easy to break it up (PARSE VAR vblname field1 n ...) Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Huegel Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: XEDIT question Is there an example somewhere you can point me to? Basically all I want to do is highlight/protect the first field on the display. i.e. AA BC D AA BC D AA BC D AA BC D On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: Sure you can either code it in your PROFILE XEDIT or code a specific PROFILE and invoke it with the '(PROF profile'. You can paint the entire screen the way you want (it doesn't even have to resemble a file that is being edited). (see TRANSFER.) In fact, you don't even have to edit the file that you will be showing information from (e.g. PIPE into a STEM and just navigate the variables.) Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Huegel Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:34 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: XEDIT question I don't do XEDIT macro's that often so this may be obvious to some, but I can't seem to find the 'how to' answer. Is there a way, (how to do it?) to set screen attributes on a file? The SET RESERVED is fine it I want to affect the whole row, but I want to highlight-skip columns of data from the edited file. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: XEDIT question
Is there an example somewhere you can point me to? Basically all I want to do is highlight/protect the first field on the display. i.e. *AA* BC D *AA* BC D *AA* BC D *AA* BC D On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: > Sure you can either code it in your PROFILE XEDIT or code a specific > PROFILE and invoke it with the ‘(PROF profile’. You can paint the entire > screen the way you want (it doesn’t even have to resemble a file that is > being edited). (see TRANSFER.) In fact, you don’t even have to edit the > file that you will be showing information from (e.g. PIPE into a STEM and > just navigate the variables.) > > > > > > Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. > > > > > -- > > *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On > Behalf Of *Tom Huegel > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:34 AM > *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > *Subject:* XEDIT question > > > > I don't do XEDIT macro's that often so this may be obvious to some, but I > can't seem to find the 'how to' answer. > > Is there a way, (how to do it?) to set screen attributes on a file? > The SET RESERVED is fine it I want to affect the whole row, but I want to > highlight-skip columns of data from the edited file. > > Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > Thanks > _ This message > contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for > the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be > aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the > contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at > privacy...@ailife.com. >
