Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??
The second hand market will soon die after a couple of years after this gets implemented. The second hand market does not work on upgrading the processor or any other parts. It works on sustenance. You can very easily do BGA level desoldering and repair. These guys have chip level repairing guys and machinery, and they keep replacing failed components like NB, SB or CPU. The chips themselves are procured from recycled boards. A removable socket allows user-level upgradation of the processor, which is not a huge market for second hand computers. The real big market is rental companies, BPOs, schools and other large consumers who can afford in house tech guys. I agree with you but my concerns lie with the whole market involved here. If you think about the impact this technology would have on other motherboard manufacturing businesses, they would have to find other means to sustain themselves in some way. Not saying that it should not be done in the first place, but it's a decent enough criteria for some companies to shutdown. Intel makes the processors and chipsets, does not mean it wants to make the boards too. A number of components are monopolised. Tyco monopolises certain connectors, Molex does for others. LCD panels are tightly controlled in a similar manner, and so are HDDs (I think all the HDD companies own each others' shares or something crazy like that). None of these guys want to do the assembly and full solution. Intel too is happy making just chips - as I said in my first email, it announced this week that it is in fact quitting the desktop board business. It's all about partner enablement - a euphemism for you do the dirty work while we create the cool technology. Google does the same thing with its Nexus range - it lets others do teh manufacturing and logistics. IMO, in some way, it is also anti-competitive, since Intel occupies more than half of the pie of the current microprocessor market share, and then it would try to capture the motherboard segment as well. It didn't for the longest time. Then it entered, in order to set a standard in the channel business. Channel (assembled) is big in Asia. Now the Taiwan guys like Gigabyte and BioStar have caught up pretty good, and they no longer need to keep doing this low margin board business. All public technology companies strive to increase their market share. They don't want to do the grunt work like PCBA, that doesn't do good to their stock price. We haven't seen any competitor for these guys lately, but yeah I would want that too. Dude, check out Mary Meeker's report for 2012. Android sales surpassed Windows sales long back. Every day, more Android devices are sold than all of the Microsoft OSs put together. And Apple is a distant third. The paradigm of computing has changed. The PC is no longer the only manifestation of a computer. Anything with a decent OS is a computer, whether it is your laptop or your tablet/phone. After all, all you need to do is use your browser. Of course, this means Linux won the desktop war already. Linux the kernel. Gnome or KDE may have lost out to Android on the Window Manager front, but the kernel is the same. If you throw in all those modems and 3G routers, the Linux kernel outsells everything else put together. Tizen is coming up as a decent competitors, Firefox OS just debuted. On the OS (kernel) front Linux won the war years ago. It won the war on servers (cloud computing users favour Linux many times more than Windows). It won the war on phones. It won the war on embedded devices. It lost the war on PCs, and PCs are now dying. But let me not say that out loud, because, somehow you still want to buy desktop boards :p Cheers! Saurabh ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??
Hi Sudhir Yesterday I found that Intel is not making any motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop. Intel is one of the primary sponsors of Linux development. Alan Cox was employed by Intel till he resigned yesterday. Intel is also quitting the desktop board business, as announced by them earlier this week. All Intel chips have great support for Linux. They even support Coreboot development now. Some recent Intel chips, such as the Atom D2500, have had VLSI IP licensed from third parties like PowerVR, who are not OSS friendly. As a result, Intel is moving away from these vendors. In support of open source, they've stopped licensing IP from closed source driver vendors. How cool is that? The vendor made me talk to an Intel guy on conference, who said Intel makes Server boards that support Linux, since Linux is largely used on servers only. They do have many boards that supports widows. Intel has great support for Linux on their server boards/chipsets, as opposed to say Nvidia. AMD is catching up on this after they acquired ATI. Sounds strange. Is it that m$ has bought over Intel or is it some kind of market-manipulation tie-up going on there ? Will be good to know, if anyone has more information. MS itself is not fairly friendly to open source. The battle against M$ was won long ago, in my opinion. I think it boils down to a business decision. Intel is already one of the top three employers of Linux engineers. Even then, they might not have enough folks to take care of driver development for all their hardware. After all, most of the big guns work on the tougher stuff like schedulers and filesystems, which are important for Intel on the server side. Driver writing is for the newbies. Intel needs great Linux support in order to defeat UNIX on the big iron side. That is a higher priority than desktop driver support, since, after all, how many people use Linux anyway? Things are very different with their mobile chips though. Over there, they are fighting ARM. ARM is very Android friendly, which in turn requires the Linux kernel. This means even Chinese chip makers are suddenly very Linux friendly, and will give you complete kernel trees for their chips. Sure, there are still some binary blobs around, but that's going away fast. In fact, Windows CE and Windows RT drivers are simply not available on a number of ARM chips now, since all they ever run is Linux (Android/Tizen/etc). Given this scenario, Intel also has to have excellent Linux support for their chips ready before the chip is out. Otherwise they can't run Android or Tizen for their demos. In such situation, are there boards by other makers that support Linux on Desktop or does one have the only option of shifting over to AMD ? When you ask for Linux support, what exactly are you looking for? Have you purchased a recent Desktop board from Nehru Place and tried to run Fedora 17/18 or Ubuntu 12.10 on it? Did you face any problems. See, Intel does not provide drivers for Linux on their website any more. TI doesn't. Vendors are moving away from that. Instead, they work closely with LKML, the distros, etc., to ensure the drivers are baked into the standard distros itself. That said, you need the latest Linux distro, because chipsets change fast. You might even have a situation where you buy a bleeding edge board and have to wait till the next Fedora/Ubuntu refresh to get everything working well. This is again not Intel's fault. It will work with the kernel guys and get the drivers included. But the distro might decide not to version up their kernel. So you are stuck with 3.6, say, on Fedora 17, while Intel bungs their latest and greatest drivers into 3.7. So you are forced to move to Fedora 18 to get 3.7. That's on Fedora/RedHat, not Intel. Let me know if you need more help, and I can patch you through to some vendors in NP who can provide you with Linux compliant boards. Cheers! Saurabh ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??
Agreed. The same way they are thinking of getting rid of boxed processors, instead the processor will be a part of the motherboard when shipped. But that I thought was only killing the hobbyist, can't see any direct impact on Linux or a relation to MS. I've been working with on-board processors from VIA and Intel for a decade now, on platforms like Mini-ITX, and I can't say how good an idea they are. Other than PC boards, there is no other electronics platform I know of, where the central processor goes in and out of a socket. And a socket with 500+ pins. Its ridiculous. And the environmental impact of this is tremendous. Moving to BGA saves material and energy. And, I mean, who does these weird combinations of board and processor anyway? Rather than upgrade the processor, you should get a new system. And no, the old board+processor does not end up in a landfill. It will live on in the second hand market. On the other hand, if you upgraded just the processor, then the old processor would end up in the trash most of the time. When a processor is soldered well enough on to the board, the complete system is highly reliable and will live on for more than a decade. My family's first PC was purchased in '85, and we actually sold it in '99 to someone. Yes, sold it, not gave it away. It worked very reliably, and everyone we knew, knew that it works. That's because the 808x chip it used, was securely plastered on the motherboard, not dangling from some pressure connector. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Bulk SMS application
Will you use SNPP for message relay or a GSM modem? Either way you'll find open source packages that will buffer and relay messages for you. On Jan 17, 2013 9:52 PM, Niyaz Ahmad lists.ni...@gmail.com wrote: hi, I need to build a bulk SMS application. Clarifications first :) I am not working for any spamming company. I am working for a large ecommerce company which has a large client base and to keep them updated, we send about 5 Lakh SMSes per day. Till now we have been relying on a vendor for this work but now my management wants this to be done in-house. Clearly speaking, I have never worked for such an application. I need your suggestions for the following: 1) Most suitable database for this application. From my experience I know mySQL is faster than pgSQL. But pgSQL is most robust DBMS. I am open to other better DBMSes. 2) Messages mobile numbers will be pushed to this SMS application and it needs to provide delivery status to main application. I need help regarding basic architecture of such SMS application. It will be built using open source tools. Please suggest which programming language is most suitable for this application. 3) Any other suggestions, pointer to relevant docs, etc will be highly appreciated. Thanks to you all, Niyaz ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Unable to boot fedora fc 5
New versions of Fedora work better with old hardware, in my experience. Try Fedora 17. On Jan 15, 2013 5:00 PM, Satish Kr Malanch satishmala...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I tried to install fc5 on one of my spare old server.As server was very old without dvd drive so i downlaod fc5 i386 (as x86_64 was also rejected by this server ) .Ok i install it in text mode and installtion was clean without any difficulty. Now as boot this server it show some error like *can not wrtie on /dev/isssp1* *permmision dennied* * * * * Here issp1 is partition of my hard drive for root ,( / ) and system goes in recovery shell after asking for root password as enter in recovery mode and supply init 3 command , it mount almost every file as read only and finaly system freez during starting of services. i have tried chmod 777 /dev/issp1 also please suggest solution -- With Best Regards: *Satish Kr Malanch* The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -- Visit my Blog by clicking here http://sd-malanch.blogspot.in/ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Migration to GNU/Linux: Suggestions needed
Hi Mohit This is a great endeavour. Why don't you consider network booting your PCs? That way you won't need to install Linux in 500 machines. Just build a master image on a server and let all units share it. The local HDD can be used for swap, since 1GB might be a little low for, say, running Netbeans or Eclipse (don't know what stuff you'll use). What prompted your management to make the switch? Maybe the same dose can be used in other organisations. Cheers! Saurabh On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Mohit Singh gmohitsi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear FOSSouls, Our organization is moving from winwoes to GNU/Linux. We have to convert 500+ computers of various B.Tech. CS labs to FOSS asap. Kindly give your suggestions for - (1) Distro Name and Stable Version ( We got the suggestion for trying even the TIZEN ) Are distros like GNUsense worthwhile? I think that may guarantee 100% Freedom. We have HP, 1GB, dual core systems mostly (2) Best rated FOSS for Disk cloning (vital for speeding up the installations) (3) Any of your experiences for the same kind of endeavor:) Thanks, Mohit ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- http://saurabh.org.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Migration to GNU/Linux: Suggestions needed
Sounds great. Network booting allows you to run complete distros only. It does not convert the PCs into thin clients. I am not talking about LTSP here. Fedora, for example, can easily be configured to network boot. The full distro. The advantage is single system imaging. You are all running the same copy of Fedora, which means you run yum update once, and all your 500 machines are updated. Its just... from an admin point a complete no-brainer to run a single image. The other advantage is that your Linux installation virtually never crashes. With SSI, it is easy to maintain a backup of the known good working copy. Do your updates on a staging copy, test it on 10 machines for a week, then roll out the updates to other machines (just move a softlink around and you're done). The only other way for you to keep 500 machines updated, would be to have a local mirror of the Fedora/Ubuntu repo you use. Lots of universities do this. And remember, network booting means that every evening, you can switch all 500 machines into Beowulf mode. Meerut's fastest supercomputer by a long margin, I'm sure! And oh... this 100% non-destructive. Which means you can do this NOW, without erasing Windoze or anything else installed on your machines. You can switch all 500 machines to Linux one day, without changing anything on them (other than a BIOS setting to enable PXE). What does that mean? Any migration will have its hiccups. Migrating 500 machines dead turkey will make a lot of users very unhappy. This retains the dual boot option for as long as you want. Once you feel the migration is done, just SSH into the machines and nuke the Windoze copy on the HDD. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Mohit Singh gmohitsi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Saurabh, Thanks for a quick response! We have really started a mission to FOSSify complete B.Tech. CS labs from first to fourth year. We want a full-fledged running GNU/Linux system on each computer. We want to utilize a distro which may run even on modest hardware with full support for software development projects of B.Tech. So I am really talking about replacing Oracle with MySQL and Visual Studio with * (something still under search - C,Java,JDBC with MySQL,JSP will be used mostly). GLUG Meerut wanted this to happen and finally our chairman has given us the green signal. I ask all the FOSSouls to help us do this. We are going to ask many questions and solve many for the organizations similar to us. Mohit -- Mohit Singh -- *Today's Imagination is Tomorrow's Innovation Today's Innovation is Tomorrow's Common Sense Today's Common Sense is Tomorrow's Nonsense * -- http://saurabh.org.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Need advice on setup of computers for a rural school
Shameless plug, but Thinvent has built solar computers just for this purpose. Google for thinvent solar. I can also get a low cost ferrocement structure done if space and security are issues. On Oct 4, 2012 8:30 PM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: Hi, I have been out of this area for a while, and would like to hear from people about who work with computer infrastructure for rural schools, including educational content. Here is some background: 1. A rural school in Orissa wants to provide 1-2 computers for the children there, ranging from primary to class X. They have spoken to Hole-in-the-wall (HIWEL), but the quoted costs seem high to me. Would love to hear from people who have worked with HIWEL. (a) The school is sort of remote, but not very much so. A major highway is some 15km away, and a largish town is some 5km away, with reasonable road connectivity. They have wireless Internet access, and I am checking up on the electricity situation. (b) The costs are quoted as at least 2.03 lakhs for a two- window HIWEL setup. They claim that the content is free, but where is the 2-lakh cost going into, then? (c) Maintenance costs also seem high: 25K/computer annually. I would have been sort of OK with a 25K annual cost for the entire facility, regardless of the number of computers. If anyone has figures on what such support costs, that would be great. 2. I really dislike the idea of proprietary content. Would like to hear from people who have actually set up similar content for schools, ideally in more detail than a basic games, multimedia, plus WIkipedia setup. Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] A Gnome Text Editor Joke
OK, so I look stupid laughing my ass off all of a sudden. Well played, Sir. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Anupam Jain ajn...@gmail.com wrote: Gedit? ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- http://saurabh.org.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Network install disk image
You can use a combination of nc and dd. A search for nc dd network backup threw up this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-copy-compressed-drive-image-over-network.html On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: Hi, Can you suggest a utility or web page instructions for installing a pre- built Linux disk image over the network? We have a bare machine with PXE and a server with a Linux disk image. Need the flow to get this image onto the bare machine's disk. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathur || r...@kandalaya.org || GPG: http://otheronepercent.blogspot.com || http://kandalaya.org || CC68 It is the mind that moves || http://schizoid.in || D17F ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- http://saurabh.org.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Recommendations for Indian SMS gateways
Generally speaking all providers should be able to provide these features, since they are a part of SNPP. I know the founders of SMSCountry and can put you in touch. Check them out. On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: Hi, Another request for recommendations. This time, it is for Indian SMS gateway providers. Below are my requirements. I have personally used mysmsmantra.com , and Unicel. The former has been fine so far, but we now have more needs. 1. Two-way SMS: Send, and receive. I am aware of various receiving options such as short code vs. long code, dedicated vs. non-dedicated, etc. We are probably looking at a non-dedicated number with a 5-6 digit short code. 2. Immediate notification of delivery status on sending, even if it is to say that delivery was delayed. The practice of returning a code that one needs to look up later is fine in principle, but the delivery status reports have proved flaky. 3. Received SMSes should be delivered to a web URL that we own, and specify to the provider. Forwarding to a mobile number is not sufficient, though OK as an additional feature. 4. White-listing recipients: I am not so sure that this is possible, but I would like to be able to send SMSes to people that have actively opted in, even if they are on the DND. list. I seem to receive such messages, even though my number is DND, e.g., for a dentist's appointment. 5. Cost is a factor, but not the most important one. Ideally, the price point would be 10-15 paise/SMS for a package of a few thousand SMSes. Receiving on a non-dedicated short code should not be more than about Rs. 2000/month. Would love to hear from people with direct experience with a vendor. Thanks in advance. Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- http://saurabh.org.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Recommendations for .in domain name registrar
Agreed. Bad hosting or dns can take away a lot of freedom. As stallman says, the cloud is the next bastion that floss has to go after. On Apr 1, 2012 7:10 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Angad Singh said on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 12:58:05AM +0530,: Didn't know domain registrars fall under the subject matter of free/open source software. Just that people using F/OSS tend to share certain values in common. Freedom is not just use; and use is not just on the desktop / server. Refer to Karanbir's reply. If you are hinting that this thread deserves a slightly-OT/commercial tag; IMHO, no. I speak only for myself. -- Mahesh T. Pai || End Users are just friends who haven't submitted a patch yet. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Recommendations for .in domain name registrar
Mitsu! No problems, been using them for 4+ years now. Was using Rediff before that, they made me miserable! On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: Hi, Has anyone used a domain name registrar that offers .in registry? I know of GoDaddy, but would prefer not to use them. bigrock.in seems OK, but I would like to get recommendations of any registrars that people are particularly happy with. Thanks. Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- http://saurabh.org.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Hardware] Config for Linux desktop
Hey Vijai I was going to respond to your email as soon as I saw it, saying that you should buy thin clients and a terminal server. But I didn't since I have a vested interest - I own a company that provides thin client solutions in the NCR area - www.thinvent.in. I am happy to know that every other responder has offered the same solution. I have been working on diskless computers, LTSP, and thin clients, for the last 15 years. I am happy to know that there is now so much traction and widespread acceptance of this technology. Do post on the list if you need any help setting up diskless nodes. Ubuntu is the OS to go for diskless nodes, although my own favourite is Fedora. Cheers! Saurabh On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Vijai Ganapathy vijai.ganapa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am planning to buy 10 numbers of system for FOSS related free education + lab setup. Main purpose for buying these to enable students to work on FOSS ( mainly Linux Admin and programming ) topics. Budget is really tight as all the money coming from my pocket. I was thinking about below configuration. 1. AMD Athlon II X2 260 + Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P + HDD + 4 GB Ram or 2. Intel Atom D525 based system. Heard that Atom based system are not really facinating to work from few users. Can someone throw light on this. Also need your suggestion on the HW config and keep in mind that my budget is really tight. -- Vijai Ganapathy Mailto: vijai.ganapa...@gmail.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- http://saurabh.org.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Recommendation for low-end Android phones
I use an LG Optimus P500. Excellent for fooling around with, since it has 512 MB RAM (fairly large for an entry level Android). You should be able to pick this up for around Rs. 8K in the retail market. Being the largest selling sub 10K Android phone in the market means the community support for it is awesome. On 12/28/11 8:57 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote: Hi, I was looking for a cheap (sub-10K INR) Android phone that I could experiment on, and not particularly worry if I bricked it. Ideally, it should be supported by CyanogenMod, but I am willing to put in some time to add such support. An excellent source for Android handset prices seems to be http://www.mysmartprice.com/mobile/pricelist/android-mobile-price-list-in-india.html though some of the newest handsets seem to be missing. From this list, official Cyanogen support seems to be available for phones around 9K, e.g., the HTC Wildfire. I am intrigued by the low-end Micromax phones, e.g., the A60 at 4K. Does anyone have experience in using any of the low-end handsets, or better yet has anyone rooted them and installed CyanogenMod? Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Looking for an Android Developer for App Dev Contract
Within the same LAN, it is legal. You can transfer incoming PSTN lines over IP to any point within your network. You can even transfer over WAN to an office in another SDCA. On the outbound front, you can't initiate a call using a PSTN port in another SDCA. So, you can't use SIP over your WAN and use a PSTN port in Bangalore to initiate a local call in Bangalore. You'd have to use your local PSTN port and dial long distance to Bangalore. The rules are easy to understand once you know the motivations of the babus. Their corporate overlords told them IP calling should not impact revenue. And so, anything that effects the revenue of Airtel, BSNL, etc., is not allowed. That said, for incoming calls, they don't care if you forward a PSTN call over IP - over a LAN, or over WAN even internationally. On 12/28/11 8:37 AM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: On Wednesday 28 Dec 2011, Arjun Venkatraman wrote: [snip] A SIP client that can : 1. Forward incoming calls on a GSM/CDMA (GSM only will do, but CDMA only will not) line to a SIP number at a proxy on the same LAN Wouldn't that be illegal without a VoIP licence in India? Regards, -- Raj ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Looking for an Android Developer for App Dev Contract
Could someone please, please clarify this? Last I heard from some FOSS-friendly legal minds, the answer to this was, it depends. I just responded, but I think my post was rather incoherent. Didn't realise there was interest in this list about VoIP. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [Commercial] Opening for Linux System Developers at Gurgaon based startup
From: http://www.thinvent.in/about-us/jobs Thinvent Technologies Pvt. Ltd. is a startup developing free and open source software solutions. We service large government clients, design hardware and embedded systems, produce a Linux distribution of our own, and participate in some of the largest IT deployments in India. We require Linux System Developers, who will be responsible for the development, maintenance and deployment of our Linux based products. Successful candidates will posses a Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science or a related field, and have two years of experience performing duties similar to those required of this position. Candidates must have intimate familiarity with the Linux operating system; excellent organization and time management skills; flexibility to handle a variety of tasks and shift priorities simultaneously; solid verbal, written communication skills are essential to interact effectively with team members and customers; ability to work in and contribute to a team-oriented environment; attention to detail and a process-oriented individual is desired. If you live and breathe computers, can extract relevant information from the Internet at the speed of light, don’t have to refer to man pages to use console commands, can write shell scripts and C and Perl programs, can use and abuse package repositories, and would love to be a part of a leading Linux development organisation, then feel free to write us at j...@thinvent.in. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] SSH KeepAlive with Switched Networks
Is there a way to overcome this situation. Situation : I’m on a LAN [in office] connected to remote server over SSH [using gnome terminal], now I've to go over for a meeting on another floor along with my notebook. I switch on to mine office WLAN with a descent 90+ signal strength, Network manager shows both connections there as connected. I disconnect my LAN connection and now on WLAN when i try working on the server to which i was connected, the server is not responding to my keystrokes as if the connection broke and i have to make a new connection to the server in order to use it in a new tab. The old connection [the one over LAN ] breaks after some time, with a timeout message. Configuration tried out : I have the settings done for keeping SSH session alive by adding entry 'ServerAliveInterval 30' to '/etc/ssh/ssh_config', but that fails to work in my case. It only supports in case e.g. i connect to a server over LAN [ have both LAN and WLAN active ]. I break the LAN connection, now over WLAN the server does NOT shows any response to my keystrokes [let it be ENTER key]. I connect back to the LAN, and it works, also all of my previous key strokes are responded to. Any help will be great. OS : Fedora 14 OpenSSH_5.5p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0e-fips 6 Sep 2011 NetworkManager Applet 0.8.4 ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Requirement for a Cisco UCS Guy
Folks Does Any One has Experience working on Cisco UCS Platform (Unified Computing System) . Please Let me know I have a opening in my current organisation for a Onsite Project Do let me know at the earliest if you are Interested with Your CV Regards Saurabh -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Need Linux People Resumes
FOlks Please provide me Resumes and CV's for people who are interested in Joining a Big MNC in Noida The Candidate should have very good experience in Linux (4-6 Yrs) -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Need Linux People Resumes
System admin + hardware and data centre knowledge + Virtualization On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Mohit Singh gmohitsi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:15 PM, saurabh vadhera saurabh.vadh...@gmail.com wrote: FOlks Please provide me Resumes and CV's for people who are interested in Joining a Big MNC in Noida The Candidate should have very good experience in Linux (4-6 Yrs) In which segment? Sys Admin? Device Drivers? Virtualization? Mohit Singh ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Requirement Gathering Document
Folks Iam in the process of preparing a detailed Requirement gathering document for a Linux Server or VM Deployment for a large scale Data Centre System Integration project . Please Suggest the parameters (technical as well fundamental) which should be included Regards Saurabh -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Need Linux Implementation Guys
Folks I need Linux Implementation Guys for a Project Onsite in Singapore for a year (with handsome Salary in Dollars) . Please send me the Resumes and provide the lead time to join POSITION: CONSULTANT - LINUX POSITION SUMMARY: The LINUX Consultant will be responsible for implementation of LINUX Systems, driving technical service resolution and maintaining high levels of customer satisfaction by providing pre and post-sales technical/functional support to current and prospective customers. The position will be responsible for system implementation and design for customers. The position is expected to work mainly on projects, not primarily in an OMC environment. Role and Responsibilities: The principal duties and responsibilities of the LINUX Consultant will be: • Implementation and design of LINUX systems. • Should participate in solution design for new or existing clients pertaining to applications hosted on LINUX Server. • Provide technical expertise in the LINUX domain. Education/Training: • Certification in LINUX – Red Hat or Equivalent • BE/MCA or equivalent in related field with total 5-8 years of experience in a distributed UNIX environment and/or equivalent. Experience/Skills: • Familiarity with at least two Linux Distros (Redhat and Novell Suse) • Familiarity with Databases and web programming languages and automation • High Availability and Failover scenarios , load balanced environments • Knowledge of Storage Environments (SAN and NAS) is desirable. • Experience with Apache, PHP, Sendmail, postfix, LDAP, RADIUS and HA Clustering • Automation Via scripting (Perl, python or shell) • File Replication, File System tuning, Upgradation and Configuring • Strong Linux troubleshooting skills • Strong Knowledge in KVM or VMware Virtualization concepts, should be able to deploy Linux Based VM’s over ESX Hosts • Should have hands on experience in deploying Linux and related applications over multiple server within a short period of time Additional Knowledge Skills: • Ability to work well with customers and in a cross team environment • Experience in handling global customers will be an added advantage. • Excellent interpersonal and Communication skills • Documentation process and procedures -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Linux Implementation Engineers
Folks I have a Urgent opening with my organisation which is a MNC in India , the requirement is of a Linux Implementation Engineers with about 5-6 yrs of experience , the selected candidate will be posted to Onsite location for a very visible and critical project Job description : • Familiarity with at least two Linux Distros (Redhat and Novell Suse) • Familiarity with Databases and web programming languages and automation • High Availability and Failover scenarios , load balanced environments • Strong Knowledge of Storage Environments (SAN and NAS) • Experience with Apache , PHP , Sendmail , postfix , LDAP , RADIUS and HA Clustering • Automation Via scripting (Perl , python or shell) • File Replication , File System tuning , Up gradation and Configuring • Strong Linux troubleshooting skills • Strong Knowledge in KVM or VMware Virtualization concepts , Should be able to deploy Linux Based VM’s over ESX Hosts • Should have hands on experience in deploying Linux and related applications over multiple server within a short period of time If interested , please send me Ur Resumes at saurabh.vadh...@gmail.com , since its a urgent opening we need to close this by end of this week Regards Saurabh ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Open Source Software for Sending Bulk Emails
Team Please let me know if their any Php scripts available which can fetch the data from the mysql DB and send emails using the SMTP server ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [OT] W3C India conference: 6 7 May | Delhi
Besides the Inaugural Session Launch of W3C India Office the technical sessions planned out are as follows. The discussion planned for the days. Day 1. Technical Session-I: Internationalization aspects in W3C. Technical Session-II: Web access through mobile handheld devices. Technical Session-III: Web Architecture and semantic Web. Day 2. Technical Session-IV:Human Machine Interface. Technical Session-V: Web Content Accessibility in Indian Languages. Technical Session-VI: Web of services and its issues. Conference Venue : The Lalit Barakhamba Avenue Connaught Place , New Delhi-110001 Register : http://tinyurl.com/248hmvc -- Thanks Sawrub ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] AIX - SAP Help
Team I would like to gather the system data for SAP running on a AIX system Can Some one please help me with parameters that needs to be looked at , and if thier is any script/tool to do that ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Gecko vs Webkit
- Gecko is now very solid and no longer lags behind WebKit. Is this claim substantiated? From still from my study, i felt, webkit is better, but i will miss millions of users using Firefox if i dont build on Gecko. Depends on what your app is. If its a tool, yes, you have a problem. If it is a business app, then most people won't mind having an extra browser just to use your app. We have business customers who eagerly change browsers if their business app performance improves - these customers' business lives in their apps, so app performance is important. Can someone help me out in deciding or share their views on Gecko vs Webkit. Webkit is faster, even on slower systems. And with Chrome(ium) you no longer have to sell Webkit to potential users. My two paise worth... Saurabh ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Protecting my copyright
I have written a program which i want to deploy at my university. Therefore i want some help so that i can put my copyright on the program. Is this just a copyright statement you want or a copy protection / DRM mechanism? You work (art) is copyrighted to you, be default. No special manoeuvres needed to protect your copyright (though I am not a lawyer). ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Fwd: [OFF-TOPIC] Calling all RHC{T,E}s
-- Forwarded message -- From: Saurabh Sharma luckysharm...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Calling all RHC{T,E}s To: M.K.Pai madhavprasad@gmail.com On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:43 AM, M.K.Pai madhavprasad@gmail.com wrote: Hi, What is the authenticity of the mail...? are you a spammer...? Is there any documentation of the same at the REDHAT web ? We did think of collecting this data by sending an email to all our our certified community - something along the lines of hi, since you are/were certified with Red Hat, please click on this link and update your profile with us But we decided against that approach because we want to know our certified community better and in person rather than as profiles. I am quite decidedly NOT a spammer. Thats why I gave you my redhat mail address. if you want to see me in person, I guess you'll have to come to the LUG meeting at JNU on the 7th :) Raj Mathur will tell you that I was among the few guys with whom this LUG began - how many years ago. Best regards, -- Pai The way i was thinking this to be a SPAM activity is by asking hundreds of persons RHC{T/E} on the lists to spam the mkpai[at]redhat[dot]com mail box, with responses. The thought that RedHat would be having the id's in their DB since result was sent to that only, led to suspicion. By the way, I too will be mailing you and will love to meet at JNU if time permits. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] FTP error while running script in cron
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Sawrub luckysharm...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/01/2009 11:18 AM, Amit Sharma wrote: Hi, Some questions... a) Is the destination directory the same as when you run it from terminal yes, script is the same b) How frequently does the cron script run? Once a week c) Is the destination actually running out of space? No, if I run the script as is from commabd prompt, it just runs d) Are you just adding files or overwriting them? First deleting the file, then copying it e) Is the cron job being run as the same user from commandline? yes it is from root on both , actually from cron it copies says 18GB and then gives disk full error. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Since most of the pointers are going towards the permissions but all in vain. Can u please pass on the script to the list so that people can try out. -- Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ Open your doors...It's time to look beyond Windows Seems that you don't want to share the script, then please check the paths defined in the script. The relative paths used in can also be the cause of the issue. -- Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ Open your doors...It's time to look beyond Windows ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google Chrome finally out for Linux
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Gaurav Gehani gauravforyou...@gmail.com wrote: Just for those who gonna use chrome-unstable be lil careful when u use it specially when using search function (ctrl f) in page. With me it has crashed my session many times and only possible way to recover was hard-reboot. :( so be little careful and rest its all cool. Just make sure u dont search lot many number of things in page if some other important thing is open else u wont even get chance to save that :( -- Thanks Regards, Gaurav Gehani ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Sorry to say, but its just working great on my side. No crashes so far. Thanks Saurabh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Web server Cluster
You Can use this as well http://www.howtoforge.com/high_availability_loadbalanced_apache_cluster -Saurabh On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Rajveer Singh torajveersi...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Amit, On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:05 AM, amit jani jani...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All, I want to make apace and mysql cluster server on centos.please help for the same Thanks and Regards Amit Kumar Please follow the below link, It may help you out.:- http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.2/html/Cluster_Administration/ap-httpd-service-CA.html Re, Rajveer Singh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [OT] Opportunity for Freshers
Cheers All, My company 'NexTag S/W and Services Pvt ltd' [www.nextag.com] posted a mail regarding opportunity for Freshers which i'm posting out here . Please recommend it to your friends or send in your CV to 'ssharm...@nextag.com' if the CV meets the below mentioned criteria. For small info about company please visit http://www.linkedin.com/companies/nextag [ Mail ] We are planning to hire few fresher (0–1 Year) in QA and Content team. Please recommend, send resume of your friends relative. Required Skill: Qualification: B.Tech or MCA [Regular Computer Science or Electronics only] OS: Windows and Linux basic command knowledge. DB: Oracle/My SQL concepts and SQL queries. Networking: Basic knowledge. QA: QA concepts, SDLC Optional skills/Good to have: Web Technologies [Web server / Application server, cookies, java script, session etc.] Language: Core Java, HTML, XML [ /Mail ] Thanks Saurabh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi
On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 10:48 +0530, g.t rao wrote: Greetings HOW CAN ANY ONE INSTALL FREE DISTRO'S LIKE ( fedora , centos, suse ... ),with all fetures through offline dvd. thankx gtra On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:45 AM, g.t rao netwebst...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings pl send me ur program details . thankx g.t.rao On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Alok G. Singh alephn...@hcoop.netwrote: We have an office in Delhi that we'd like to move to Ubuntu in stages. 5 desktops in the first stage. It's a non-profit book publishing trust[1] and there's no one who knows about Ubuntu. We'd like to setup a local mirror (or caching proxy) and most importantly have someone on hand to help with the initial teething troubles. This is especially important as there are no geeks in the office and telephone support doesn't work if the people aren't sure of what they are doing. As far as the scope of the migration goes, at this stage, it's just getting people use Firefox instead of IE and Openoffice instead of MS Office. TIA. Footnotes: [1] http://prathambooks.org/home.htm -- Alok ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ @g.t rao All that you need to do is that during the installation via DVD...when you reach the Software Selection section of the installation just go checking in the all of the check box ,default selection is Office and Productivity as shown in http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/s1-pkgselection-x86.html either you can go for Customize Now and select out what ever you need. Similar is the case with other Distro's. Hope this helps. -- Thanks Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ Open your doors...It's time to look beyond Windows ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Proposed workshop at KNMIET, Ghaziabad, Sat., 31st Oct., 11am-5pm
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 10:32 +0530, Vinay Yadav wrote: * I think it will be a great if we maintain a common repository for sharing all such files of events Thumbs up Vinay.. :-) -- Thanks Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ Open your doors...It's time to look beyond Windows ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 22:35 +0530, Amit Sharma wrote: PJ wrote: Alok G. Singh alephn...@... writes: Oui, à la fois, monsieur :) Seeing two responses already, I'm delighted to see that linux sysadmin support is getting popular. Do write in occasionally to let the list now about any interesting problems faced etc (if any). I expect it to be a kickass migration. Sharing My Story . . . . Migrated about 200 systems from Windows to Linux last year, everything was smooth expect the local printers just refused to work with diskless machines. I used Kiwi-LTSP on the server. Tried for few days to make it work, then just left it as is :( On the bright side, last week I called that office to check if they are still on Linux or slowly (machine by machine, by giving one reason/ excuse at a time) reverted to Windows). Glad to hear from them: 1. The mandatory one in six months or so OS formatting is a thing of past. 2. No issues at all except some trivial issues in using Linux Desktop (openSUSE 11.0) 3. There are still only 8-10 windows machines in 200 desktops. 4. People (Staff) actually feel proud to tell their family and friend that they use Linux in their office and it is as easy as Windows without any fear of any virus etc. regards, amit ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Really a gr8 work amit... -- Thanks Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ Open your doors...It's time to look beyond Windows ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Google Caching issues
Hi Team I want to take some advice and suggestions from this Group . I am actually facing a very strange problem these days . Current Setup : We have two websites hosted on a same linux apache server , But they are pointing to two different Ip's and virtual hosts in apache . These two Domains are also sharing a common Name Server Problem : When we try to do a google search for Cache:domain Name it actually opens the page for the other domain name and website , which means that from google search the site is getting redirected to other domain . Even though we donot have any redirects at apache level or at the DNS level too Please suggest how can i resolve this problem , any help would be really appreciated Regds saurabh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] SMS Server
Team I want to setup a SMS service which will run from a Linux machine , Basically i want to send sms's alerts . I know we can do it using scripts (written in php and perl etc) , But most of them requires paid SMS gateways in the form of email2sms functionality Please help me with any other open source option if at all Regds Saurabh -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Capacity Planning and Reporting
Hi Everyone Can You please suggest me some Open Source tools to do capacity planning and reporting for a Unix Server enviorment . Iam looking to some open souce replacement of sitescope etc . Requirement is to generate the capacity reports (CPU Load avg and Memory as well some application servies) in tabular and graphical format -Saurabh -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] I want to buy a laptop
-Original Message- From: narendra sisodiya narendra.sisod...@gmail.com Reply-to: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: Re: [ilugd] I want to buy a laptop Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:37:22 +0530 On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM, rakesh kumar kumar3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using HCL leaptop for a long time, but there is a problem that it does not fully support LINUX, i am just able to work on fedora 9 not even other version of fedora. Actually i have seen lots of discussion on this topic so can any one suggest me any laptop for this purpose. I want to spend not more than Rs 30k. regards rakesh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ I have purchased Acer Aspire 4736z, you can checkout that it is falls under your requirement.. -- Thanks Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ Open your doors...It's time to look beyond Windows ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] I want to buy a laptop
-Original Message- From: Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com Reply-to: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: Re: [ilugd] I want to buy a laptop Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:46:07 +0530 On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Saurabh Sharma luckysharm...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: narendra sisodiya narendra.sisod...@gmail.com On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM, rakesh kumar kumar3...@gmail.com wrote: What was that? A miscalculated forwarded email? --- n9986 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Sorry for that,was sent out by a wrong click :-( -- Thanks Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ Open your doors...It's time to look beyond Windows ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] another official mirror
-Original Message- From: Nagarjuna G. nagar...@gnowledge.org Reply-to: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org To: glug linux...@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Cc: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: [ilugd] another official mirror Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:51:25 +0530 I came to know about this mirror today. If you already know about it, please ignore. http://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/mirror/linux_mirror.html Hi, This is cool, at least for the North IndiansIs there a way in which we can ask the IITK for adding in the spins too. -- Thanks Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ Open your doors...It's time to look beyond Windows ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Anyone interested in ARM development?
Hey guys! I'm not sure if this qualifies as a commercial post, so I didn't flag it so. We have some pretty interesting work to be done on the ARM platform. If you've heard of the BeagleBoard, then this is pretty much the same stuff. We are creating a very low end computing device using an ARM SoC. In fact we're making a series of these devices, with Silicon from TI and lesser known Taiwanese firms. The target for the equipment is mostly rural primary education. Right now we're using commercial boards, but as the project gathers steam, we'll have open source hardware. For now, the software part will be as open as possible (we're having to deal with binary blobs from the Silicon vendors). To fund the project, we'll be using these boards in thin clients, digital signage, and other projects where we currently use x86 Mini-ITX boards with VIA or Atom processors. We're looking for folks with cross platform development experience. If you've dealt with a few of the following things, this work is up your street: 1. Uboot 2. Remote boot 3. Kernel development for non-x86 targets (even cross compilation and booting up will suffice) 4. Firmware development on Linux 5. GTK+ 6. Building root file systems for ARM targets If you've worked with the BeagleBoard or Gumstix, you already have the right skills. What we will give you: 1. A shiny new ARM SoC board that has Uboot and a kernel going on it already. 2. Money for your expenses. 3. We do this work commercially, so we have a lot of experience. You'll get to learn a lot if you're a relative newbie. 4. If you are a great performer, we could remunerate. We will remunerate if you work on our commercial projects. If you're keen on building appropriate computing devices for India, this is your opportunity. This is not an experiment or hobby project. We will build entire devices and systems around the technology, and encourage a bunch of vendors in India to manufacture and sell this equipment. We already have the vendors and the buyers listening - all we need is devices that work ;-) If you're interested, drop me an email at saurabh at thinvent dot in. Please do forward this email to the IITD-LUG list, and any other lists of relevance. Regards, Saurabh -- Visit us at http://www.thinvent.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Microsoft giving Best Buy anti-Linux training
MS really down to worst now... http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/09/07/best.buy.told.to.misrepresent.linux/ -- Thanks Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ Open your doors...It's time to look beyond Windows ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] wma under Rhythmbox
Hi All I'm not able to make Rhythmbox play wma files under Fedora11 box,it just hangs and then the system asks me to force kill the app.looking forward for any help in getting this to work. PS : totem is able to play wma files nicely,so at least doesn't seems to be issue with missing plugins. -- Thanks Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ Open your doors...It's time to look beyond Windows ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] :Evolving talents
Hey Rajkamal , A decent initiative on your part . Seems that you are from I.E.E.T. At our time the crowd there was not that dumb,as you are mentioning them to be now .And i really fear if now the institute is going in that direction. Besides that all ,I wish you get the best results in your efforts . Thanks Saurabh http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:28 AM, rajkamal bhardwajrk.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hi..Baddi is in Himachal Pradesh... I know lots off stuff about linux and Solaris due to Sun's campus ambassador program in our clg. But ur links will be helpfull, thanks. But the real problem is of getting started and just breaking the surface, coz many students just dont know definition of software. I have around 200 students in this group with very uneven intellect as on one hand there are students i talked about and on the other hand some are just brillant programs but acute knowledge. So class becomes pretty boring sometime for these students. I wonder if movies like Hackers3, Pyrates of silicon valley could makes things rolling and hepl them understand better. My friend at MIT suggested this idea but i wonder if that could work here coz english is another problem with rural areas. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:14 AM, narendra sisodiya narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM, rajkamal bhardwaj rk.re...@gmail.comwrote: Hi. i m new to this mailing list... I m doing Btech from baddi and we have a group formed by the students in our college to help nurshing hidden talents in our college and since many come in our clg from rural areas with low computer literacy. I am the student convener of this group i want to break the surface of new session by proving quality technical knowlegde and i've thought of starting telling new student about paradigms using C,C++,java,Scheme and python. But i want them to know and appreciate the open source softwares also. Can you all tell any ideas to make classes fun and tell them the importance of open source and expect them to contribute in this area, Keeping in view many of them don't even know how to switch on a computer. I need to help them and make them oriented with mordern world. Thanks. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Hi Rajkamal, I will suggest to start from this - http://lug-iitd.org/Nice_Linux_Links . A lot of links are their on page. just click them and read and study them to understand FOSS and Linux. You can Order Ubuntu Linux CDs/DVDs online from ubuntu.com in case you do not have sufficient bandwidth. Their are hell lot of tutorial are their on Internet to learn it. If you face problem in installing Linux OS, howtoforge website will help you. I do not know where is Buddi and how far will it be from Delhi. but if it is near, I will love to visit ! You can start Group study and start teaching eachother for a quick start. -- ┌─┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya ( नरेन्द्र सिसोदिया ) │ RD Engineer │ Web : http://narendra.techfandu.org │ Twitter : http://tinyurl.com/dz7e4a └─┘ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Need Fedora 11
That will be ok for me,i can get LFY Thanks 2 all who responded Thanks Saurabh On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Andrew Lynnlynn.and...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Amit bamit0...@gmail.com wrote: fedora 11 is bundled woth linux for you magzine. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Saurabh Sharma luckysharm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I reside in Vikaspuri can any one provide me with iso/dvd for Fedora 11.Please mail or contact me at 9958563399 Thanks Saurabh Replying to the list as it maybe useful for others: Fedora 11: I have the iso for both i386 and x86_64. In addition I maintain a local repository of the Everything, updates, rpmfusion-free and non-free for internal use. Please feel free to drop in and pick up copies. Andrew Lynn Hall #8 School of Information Technology Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi 110067 -- Freed.in : Freedom in technology and software ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [OT] Need Fedora 11
Hi All, I reside in Vikaspuri can any one provide me with iso/dvd for Fedora 11.Please mail or contact me at 9958563399 Thanks Saurabh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] FOSSCOM Meeting in Delhi on June 4th
The date in summary seems to be typo for 4th July. -- Warm Regards Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ narendra sisodiya wrote: FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:34 PM Subject: [ILUG-BOM] FOSSCOM Meeting in Delhi on June 4th To: GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India linux...@mm.ilug-bom.org.in We are planning a meeting of the FOSS COMmunity of India in Delhi, at the JNU Campus on 4th July to discuss key issues facing the FOSS community and strategies for dealing with them. All those interested are welcome. More details below. Venky 1. Reporting on the Bangalore FOSSCOM 1st Meeting and follow up 2. Open Standards and actions by the FOSS community Follow up on the Department of IT's draft policy on open standards. It appears that some proprietary software vendors are blocking the policy. 3. FOSS in Education What the FOSS community can do in a) School Education b) Higher Education 4. Software Patents and other legal issues a) Take up pre and pre grant opposition for selected cases b) Take up the issue of Draft Manual which deviates from the Patent Act c) Take up cases with the Competition Commission, which are restrictive trade practices and are monopolistic. 5 Building political consensus around FOSS as India's best bet for development This is planned for the whole day and will start at 10.00 AM. We will give you the actual venue shortly, but it is planned to be in JNU, For outstation people, this is in Soth Delhi. Those who require accommodation, please let us know, we will try and arrange. The travel costs as well as the cost of stay will have to be borne by the participants. We will arrange for the venue and lunch. For those requesting accommodation, please write to the following: Prof. Andrew Lynn Andrew Lynn lynn.and...@gmail.com rajesh kalithody myidraj...@gmail Any suggestion/modifications to the agenad is welcome. For initiating the discussion, suggesting the following: Item 1.Banaglore meeting and follow-up: Sunil/Guru Item 2. Open Standards Venkatesh Hariharan Item 3. Education Guru/Jaijit Item4. Patents Prabir Item 5. Free wheeling. The purpose of initiation is that at least some home work is done before the meeting. Time for this should be around 5-10 minutes. Hoping that this is not to short a notice and you will be able to attend. Please circulate this widely to whoever you think should attend. If some people have to be formally requested, please let us know and we will follow up at our end also. Best, Prabir Purkayastha -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Protest against Section 69A and 69B of the IT-Act?
Does anyone know of organized (preferably mass) protests against Section 69A and 69B of the IT-Act, 2009? [1] http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/06/07/stories/2009060750090300.htm [2] http://www.mit.gov.in/default.aspx?id=969 Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Workshop for NGO's on Free and Open Source Software and local language computing
Hi All, It was a hot day today in New Delhi ,but turned out to be a great and very informative under the AC's running at the seminar hall at SARAI. Here are the few glimpse of the first day. http://picasaweb.google.com/luckysharma11/NIABNewDelhi Thanks sawrub On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:34 PM, shantanu choudhary @sarai.net wrote: Hello All, Sarai, and NGO-in-a-box (developed by Mahiti, Bangalore), are organizing a free software workshop in Delhi on June 5th, and 6th. It is aimed at NGOs, and not-for- profit organizations looking to migrate to FOSS solutions. Link for announcement and registration is http://ngoinabox.mahiti.org/niab-8-coming-soon. -- Regards Shantanu Choudhary ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Poll for a Multi-User Accounting FOSS Alternative
Saurabh Sharma wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Arun Khan kn...@yahoo.com mailto:kn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Wednesday 29 Apr 2009, Saurabh Sharma wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@sarai.net mailto:g...@sarai.net wrote: Besides your list, you might take a look at GNUKhata (http://gnukhata.gnulinux.in/), an accounting package targeted at Indian needs. It is currently under development. The link is giving Address not found to me,Please see if there is some typo. The link is valid. What are your DNS settings in /etc/resolv.conf? Use opendns servers or your own caching bind dns server. Added opendns to the nameserver list and it worked Thanks Saurabh -- Arun Khan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org mailto:ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Thanks to all for their valuable contribution,i'l try couple of them and then post back the choice with my recommendations. thanks Saurabh -- Warm Regards *Saurabh Sharma* http://abt-linux.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Poll for a Multi-User Accounting FOSS Alternative
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@sarai.net wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:02:52 +0530 Saurabh luckysharm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All Last weekend i had a chance to impress a friend of mine for FOSS ,who is presently using windoz, there were answers with me to all of his question except to the one `That is there any alternative to Tally Gold [Accounting S/W] ' that he uses most. [...] Besides your list, you might take a look at GNUKhata (http://gnukhata.gnulinux.in/), an accounting package targeted at Indian needs. It is currently under development. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ The link is giving Address not found to me,Please see if there is some typo. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Poll for a Multi-User Accounting FOSS Alternative
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Arun Khan kn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Wednesday 29 Apr 2009, Saurabh Sharma wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@sarai.net wrote: Besides your list, you might take a look at GNUKhata (http://gnukhata.gnulinux.in/), an accounting package targeted at Indian needs. It is currently under development. The link is giving Address not found to me,Please see if there is some typo. The link is valid. What are your DNS settings in /etc/resolv.conf? Use opendns servers or your own caching bind dns server. Added opendns to the nameserver list and it worked Thanks Saurabh -- Arun Khan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Poll for a Multi-User Accounting FOSS Alternative
Hi All Last weekend i had a chance to impress a friend of mine for FOSS ,who is presently using windoz, there were answers with me to all of his question except to the one `That is there any alternative to Tally Gold [Accounting S/W] ' that he uses most. I goggled for the FOSS alternatives for the Tally Gold a multi-user application. Though i came across few but was not able to filter out a single one out the many simply out of comments of forums.. I'll need to look into these and them come up with the bests that suits him. But in the mean time prior to my diging into them which i'll do on the week end, i wanted to have a small poll from among the members who have made use of any such or heard off any such ,so that there could be little filtering. So please help me ,following are the links to the applications http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiere http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERP5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GnuCash http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grisbi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomeBank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JGnash http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KMyMoney http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NolaPro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMFG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postbooks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar_Accounting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XTuple All have been picked up from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_accounting_software -- Warm Regards *Saurabh Sharma* http://abt-linux.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Configuring Diskless Machines to use Linux
Dear Amit Will test it for load on server. Not very sure if I will be able to run 25 diskless machines from One or even 2 servers. I've been creating diskless machines for a living for the last 10 years. So I speak with some authority. 1:25 is a pretty good ratio. We've simultaneously streamed full screen video over ordinary X11 to 25 LTSP clients from a single Xeon server (and this was Xeon 2006). Do let me know how it went. Cheers! Saurabh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Configuring Diskless Machines to use Linux
do you have experience in environments where there is only windows server and diskless linux thinclients pxe booting off tftp server on the windows machine. I'm sorry but I've never done this myself. if yes can we do it with LTSP or what should i use It is supposed to be eminently doable with LTSP. You just need DHCP, TFTP and NFS servers for Windows. Why do you need this? Trust me, go down to Nehru place, find the most ridiculous old PC you can find. It will work excellently as a diskless server (provided it doesn't have flaky hardware). It is only serving files after all. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [FSUG-Bangalore] Boycott Novell Protesters Man-handled at National Conference on Free Software 2008
This is on Slashdot. Read the comments there-- one of the few times they make sense. If the protesters were on private property and were asked to leave by the organizers, they should have. Basic respect for private property. Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] { Announcement/Invitation } General Meeting cum Discussion on Software Patents at IIT Delhi at 24 oct 2008
Whoever wants to argue about the efficacy of software patents should make it a point to read this essay by Paul Graham before forming voicing strong opinions: http://www.paulgraham.com/softwarepatents.html Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [ILUG -D] ILUG - D Polls
Hi All The home page of ILUG - D [http://www.linux-delhi.org/] have a section named ILUG- D polls and showing poll regarding Freed to be held in Feb 2008,isn't it too old and certainly the section needs a refreshing subject. Thanks Saurabh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [ILUGD] OSS CAMP Day 2 under Camera
Hi All, Here are some of the pics for the day 2 of OSS Camp Delhi held at IIT Delhi.Please follow the link and if there is some issue with the album ,please do revert me back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Thanks Saurabh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Issues with Monitor Resolution
narendra sisodiya wrote: Try settng horizontal and vertical frequencies also,, use 60Hz refresh rate,, it will sovlve you probem, Always remember two command * gnome-display-properties * system-config-display Try changing refresh rate to 60Hz,, and press Ctrl+Alt+BackSace then increase resolution to desired one and then press Ctrl+Alt+BackSacepress try these ,, it works,, on yumraj based system, What card do you have?? you are using Vesa driver,,, its a very generic driver,, try installing driver for your card and change the line Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver vesa EndSection to Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver ilug-d-driver EndSection Monitor :15 CRT Samsung Samtron 56v Thanks Lucky # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display Section ServerLayout Identifier single head configuration Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver vesa EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Cheers ,problem resolved. Last night i left my system for yum update after pointing to CentOS repositories,It indicated a total download of abt 530MB ,after all was done i restarted the system and there was an extra entry of CentOS kernel [ 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5.centos.plus] on my machine. Booted under CentOS and there was no such resolution problem,it provided me with multiple resolutions to choose from,may be it was some fight with the kernel [2.6.29] that i had under RHEL,previous xorg setting worked here fine. Thanks for all who responded Thanks Saurabh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Issues with Monitor Resolution
Hi, Want help from you on a issue that i'm facing with my monitor resolution,i have a dual boot windows XP and RHEL5. In Windows the monitor provide the option to set the resolution at 1024x786 but the same is not allowed here in linux. i googled a lot ,defined settings in in xorg.conf [Attached] but no resolution,some times on pressing Alt+Ctrl+[Backspace] the resolution used to get fixed,but it have just been 2-3 times. Waiting for something good from you all. Monitor :15 CRT Samsung Samtron 56v Thanks Lucky # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display Section ServerLayout Identifier single head configuration Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver vesa EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Any experiences with Acer Aspire One?
I would advise everyone to not buy any Acer notebook. Their build quality sucks. And believe me, you might think that build quality does not matter, but for notebooks it does -- you'll realize it later. The mousepad of my Acer laptop[1] started misbehaving within 2 months of purchase. Today, after 3 years of sparse usage (mostly lying around at home) I find out that the keyboard has started misbehaving too. Don't even get me started on the battery. Even when it was brand new, I never got more than 1h 15m of battery backup. Moral: DON'T buy Acer. [1] TravelMate 4061NWLCi Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] How to Check Permgen Java Memory stats in JDK 1.4
Hello Folks Please Let me know how I can check for Permgen statistics of Java memory in JDK 1.4 I know with JDK 1.5 we have tools like jmap and jstat which can be used , any ideas how we can do with JDK1.4 regds saurabh -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Web Analysis Open Source Tool
Hey Geeks Want Your Recommendation for a Professional Enterprise Web analysis tool like awstats , the tool shuld consider both IIS and Apache Logs Please Suggest -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose
Thank you everyone and i guess i will go with ubuntu. Good choice. Months later, when you are more familiar with Linux and try some other distro, you'll wonder why all of them aren't as easy to install and use as Ubuntu :) If you aren't in a hurry, you can visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and have them ship you a free CD. It comes in from Singapore, yet arrives within a week. Not wanting to start a flame war - I use Fedora for all my work. But I still have Ubuntu on my spare laptop, to turn to when all else fails. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Conversation view (like GMail) in Evolution
Is it possible? Is there a plugin, which can help me achieve this? Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Conversation view (like GMail) in Evolution
I guess you mean the thread view, you just have to enable that view - group by thread I think I already have that on. The difference between a conversation view and a thread view is that the former also shows the mails sent be you in the same tree Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose
1. Is it legal for someone to distribute a Redhat Enterprise Linux copy that he bought from Redhat without any Redhat agreement or restrictions? If yes, than again I get back to my old question which is how will he get the distro. It is illegal. The binaries are copyright protected. The source is re-distributable. The Red Hat logos and trademarks embedded into their product can also not be redistributed. 2. Is it legal for someone from Redhat(assuming he has the access to the distro) to distribute it for free without any Redhat agreement or restrictions(in short as FOSS) I don't think so, though I would like a RedHat guy to comment. The RHEL EULA prohibits you from using RHEL unless someone from RH gives you a license, or written permission to do so. (b) Use CentOS Acceptable. Yet, still not RHEL! Not RHEL. Only better :) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose
.This EULA does not permit User to distribute the Programs or their components using Red Hat's trademarks, regardless of whether the copy has been modified. *Courtesy: Redhat http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhel_rha_eula.html Thanks Smruti. I was going to point the list members to the EULA link myself. The GPL only talks about the source code. What someone compiles out of the source, is their work. How the authors of this binary work licenses that work, is their prerogative. The GPL only dictates that the source must accompany the binary. You can charge for the binary, and copy protect it. GPL v3 of course has interesting caveats, which prevent Tivo-isation, to use a word coined by Stallman. To put it trivially, you can copy protect the binary, as long as you don't prevent the user from removing your binary firmware from the device altogether, and putting in their binaries. The RedHat EULA is actually pretty accommodative. Other EULAs I've read in the past, specifically prohibit redistribution of binaries. I think Novell made SUSE that way - you couldn't redistribute SUSE 10. Then they had to create OpenSuse to appease the community. If we're going to divert ourselves into a licensing discussion, shouldn't we change the thread subject ;-) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux compatibility with Dell Latitude laptop
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Pranith Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:58 AM, sonika tyagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all...need some help! Hello, 1. 2.5Ghz/2.6 Ghz dual core processor ( is there a major difference in the speed of the two... as the difference in the price is pretty large). 2.5Ghz is good enough. 2.6 costs an aweful more for 100mhz. 2. two separate hard disks (making at least 250GB) for linux and windows, respectively. Are there any issues such as heating and speed with two separate hard drives on the laptop? The option I got was a 200GB SATA HDD (7.2k rpm) + 80MB PATA (5400 rpm) 2nd drive...I am a bit skeptical about the PATA drive!!! why dont u take the second one as sata too?? 3. 1X2GB SDRAM 4. 9 cell Li-ion bettery Bad choice, if u ask me. 9 cell battery of dell is too heavy and carrying around the laptop will prove quite a burden. I dont agree at all. I bought Dell Inspiron 1525, three weeks before and it is of 9 cell battery. It has 250GB hard disk and 3 GB RAM and I cant explain how light is this. It is even lighter than my friend's laptop from dell which has 6 cell battery which they bought last year. I think with advancement in technology Dell has made certain optimizations to make it light in weight. And afterall 9 cell battery is going to give you more backup than 6 cell battery and there is not going to be a much difference in weight which should make you think about 6 cell. 5. 8X DVD RW 6. 6MB L2 Cache with 800MHz FSB 7. blue tooth 8. wi-fi etc. Which audio/video, wireless network cards are the best with Linux ? Should there be any other issues you know of and would like to share? Try the live cd if u have access to a machine and see if it works before buying. Ubuntu 8.04 works like a charm on my laptop for both wireless and wired internet connection. However I never had a working internet connection with ubuntu 6.06. D Pranith Kumar, Member, Technical Staff, Mentor Graphics, India. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Saurabh Gupta Electronics and Communication Engg. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux compatibility with Dell Latitude laptop
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:58 PM, sonika tyagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good! Saurabh, would you mind sending me over the spec of your Dell inspiron, with all the technical details ? I belive it'll help. Ok, I am sending you the configuration details for my DELL laptop on your email-id. Thanks Sonika On 7/17/08, saurabh gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Pranith Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:58 AM, sonika tyagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all...need some help! Hello, 1. 2.5Ghz/2.6 Ghz dual core processor ( is there a major difference in the speed of the two... as the difference in the price is pretty large). 2.5Ghz is good enough. 2.6 costs an aweful more for 100mhz. 2. two separate hard disks (making at least 250GB) for linux and windows, respectively. Are there any issues such as heating and speed with two separate hard drives on the laptop? The option I got was a 200GB SATA HDD (7.2k rpm) + 80MB PATA (5400 rpm) 2nd drive...I am a bit skeptical about the PATA drive!!! why dont u take the second one as sata too?? 3. 1X2GB SDRAM 4. 9 cell Li-ion bettery Bad choice, if u ask me. 9 cell battery of dell is too heavy and carrying around the laptop will prove quite a burden. I dont agree at all. I bought Dell Inspiron 1525, three weeks before and it is of 9 cell battery. It has 250GB hard disk and 3 GB RAM and I cant explain how light is this. It is even lighter than my friend's laptop from dell which has 6 cell battery which they bought last year. I think with advancement in technology Dell has made certain optimizations to make it light in weight. And afterall 9 cell battery is going to give you more backup than 6 cell battery and there is not going to be a much difference in weight which should make you think about 6 cell. 5. 8X DVD RW 6. 6MB L2 Cache with 800MHz FSB 7. blue tooth 8. wi-fi etc. Which audio/video, wireless network cards are the best with Linux ? Should there be any other issues you know of and would like to share? Try the live cd if u have access to a machine and see if it works before buying. Ubuntu 8.04 works like a charm on my laptop for both wireless and wired internet connection. However I never had a working internet connection with ubuntu 6.06. D Pranith Kumar, Member, Technical Staff, Mentor Graphics, India. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Saurabh Gupta Electronics and Communication Engg. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Saurabh Gupta Electronics and Communication Engg. NSIT,New Delhi, India I blog here: http://saurabh1403-blog.blogspot.com/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux compatibility with Dell Latitude laptop
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Pranith Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:05 PM, saurabh gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I am sending you the configuration details for my DELL laptop on your email-id. If you dont mind, post them here too so that others can see what machine works :) Oh sure. I didn;t post it here because of the fear of violation of any rules of this group by attaching a file. Anyways, I am writing down the configuration for my laptop. *Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor T5750 2.0 GHz, 2MB Cache, 667 MHz FSB *Genuine Windows Vista(TM) Home Premium - with AER O experience *Dell(TM) PC-Restore *15.4 Widescreen WXGA (1280x800) TFT Display with TrueLife(TM) *3GB (1 X 2 GB + 1 X 1 GB) 667MHz Dual Channel DDR 2 SDRAM *250GB SATA Hard Drive *internal 8X DVD+/-RW *Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3 100 *Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945 Dual Band 802.11a/g 54 Mbps Wireless Mini Card *9-cell battery *Dell(TM) Wireless 355 Bluetooth Module *1 Year Complete Cover Accidental Damage Protection *1 Year Telephone Technical Support (9am To 6pm, Monday - Friday) * 1 ExpressCard Slot, (DOES NOT SUPPORT PCMCIA CARD) *8 in 1 media card reader * Integrated 10/100 Fast Ethernet And all other common and other things like 2Mpixel cam, internal 56K modem etc. etc. And the total cost is 41,856/-. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Saurabh Gupta Electronics and Communication Engg. NSIT,New Delhi, India I blog here: http://saurabh1403-blog.blogspot.com/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Web Analysis Tool
Hello Folks Iam Searching for a Open Source Web Analysis Tool for windows platform , which can give me data like page views , visits , etc . I have heard about awstats , Is there any other tool which is even more powerfull then awstats -saurabh -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Content Management Tool
Hello Folks I need your Suggestion in selecting a Enterprise level Content Management Software , Considering that Iam not a developer or coder by profession . and yet i wanna design a powefull enterprise level portal . These are the few which I came across : Joomla , Drupal , Mambo , typo3 . Please let me know whch one to head for .. As Ever Saurabh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)
Hi, Has anyone been able to successfully transact on the ICICI Netbanking website using Firefox 2.0. By transact I mean able to transfer funds, etc. Basically anything that requires: (a) your transaction password to be entered, or (b) the debit card grid verification to be performed). My session has consistently been timed out immediately after (a) above. While Googling around, I came across a forum where someone claimed that due to a JS error the session times out in Firefox 2.0, but the site works on Firefox 1.5. Does anyone know where I can get a Firefox 1.5 package (or tarball) for Ubuntu Feisty Fawn. I've been trying to search for it, but in vain. Help will be appreciated, Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)
Don't remember *b), *but definitely for *a) *I didn't have problem* *on Firefox 2.0 (on both Windows RHEL ). Could you please do small favour? Can you try entering a _wrong_ transaction password and see if the site gives you an appropriate error or summarily times out your session? Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)
Couldn't test on RHEL 5;on Windows, ICICI Direct says: *Transaction Password is incorrect*. Hmmm, interesting. Why is this happening with me? Consistently. And not only my account - one more person has tried from my browser with the same result. What's your exact browser id string? Mine is -- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/2.0.0.11 (Ubuntu-feisty) PS: If you find the time, please test it on RHEL as well. Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)
But the final insight only came after grovelling through the Javascript code on the page. It takes a reasonable amount of time and effort, but at the end of it you usually know exactly what is wrong. For the record, I have successfully used Iceweasel/Firefox 2.0 for both Netbanking and the payment gateway. Wow! Did you document it anywhere? If not, do you remember what the problem was and how you fixed it? Can you document it now? I can try to write a small userscript to fix the error. Thanks for the link to Firefox 1.5 Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU
Please do remember that Freed.in is what the community wants it to be, so if you do not like the change of focus, please be at the meeting, and make yourselves heard. This focus on what the community wants, in my opinion, does not always work. There are things which need to be driven by a single person or a small core team based on their personal convictions. Everything can't be a decision by committee. All those who're harping about the inappropriateness about the new direction of Freed on the mailing list (me included) will probably not work as much (or not work at all) in running around to get stuff organized. So why let them take control of the decision? (which would mean giving them a vote in the meeting -- if it comes to that) The core team can listen to everyone's view, and execute only what they themselves are convinced about. Not some fuzzy community trying to drive stuff by proxy using video conferencing and IRC. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Plan for Freed.in 2008
Hi Gora, I have attended only one Freed (it was called Freedel at that point) and the focus seems to have shifted quite a bit since that time (open source s/w focused event to a more social revolution kind of event). Therefore, please read my comments in that context -- most of them may be emanating from the fact that the new direction doesn't fit my notion of the event. 1. How does a focus on the Knowledge Ecosystem tie in with open source software? It surely ties in with open standards (and file formats), but not necessarily with free/open source software. However, freed.in may focus on the use of open source software in helping create the knowledge system - which is absolutely fine. Except that (a) this is not stated anywhere explicitly in the document, and (b) not all content can be managed properly with open source s/w as of now. 2. The term Knowledge Ecosystem can mean different things to different people. I've read the document carefully, it does not define what knowledge ecosystem means to the organizers of the event in clear concise terms. I think that's important. Also, knowledge can impact lots of aspects of our lives. It would be good to list a few of them, which Freed is planning to focus upon. From the tone of the document, education and government seemed to be the primary focus, but again, helps to be explicit. 3. What does section 1.3 mean? How do you plan to achieve the tangible goals listed out in this section through Freed.in? Wouldn't achieving these goals require a lot more sustained effort than a 3 day event? Section 2.4 answers this question partially, but I'm still a bit skeptical. Also, from a document writing perspective, portions of the text of section 2.4 should be contained in section 1.3 to make things more obvious. 4. Pardon me, but IMHO, most of section 3.1 offers nothing concrete to the user. It simply adds to the sense of vagueness. It should probably be removed and replaced by a succinct definition of the term Knowledge Ecosystem and be moved to somewhere in section 1 itself. 5. This might be my ignorance, but what role do open source licenses (as defined by OSI) play in creating and sharing knowledge? (Also, the link to OSI http://opensource.org opens a website wildly different from http://www.opensource.org!) As an overall comment, the document needs to be more specific. Probably you're expecting community feedback to flesh out the details. But in my opinion, the overall vagueness (and too many buzzwords) hampered my in offering any useful feedback. Making the document shorter and adding a one line mantra (v/s a mission and vision statement) about Freed should help people understand the overall context. And get the ideas flowing. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [LONG] Re: Plan for Freed.in 2008
If you look at our country (and probably most developing countries), you will see that the fundamental issues relate to availability of knowledge, not availability of software. Posting free CDs of Linux to people who don't have the computers to run them on won't help in any of these areas -- software isn't the whole solution, it's just part of it. Exactly. This whole thing about the knowledge economy is not necessarily about software. Its about mind sets. It's the same mind set that is required to get an RTI act into effect. Sure, the RTI act is more effective if the information dissemination is not through individual applications and replies -- but it still works without the software. So where is that huge fund of knowledge that is lying with the individuals of India? Can I access it? Can I use it? Can I enhance it? No, since it's hidden away in the minds and collective wisdom in villages and small towns, whose people do not have any means available for expressing that wisdom and sharing it with the rest of the world. One of freed.in's goals at this event is to discuss ways forward for enabling the free collection and dissemination of knowledge, no matter where in this country or in the developing world it exists. At the risk of oversimplification: Today's society and economy is hinged upon the availability of knowledge. Digital technologies have proven to be an effective way for sharing such knowledge. Digital technologies are not available to most of India (especially rural parts). Is Freed.in about bridging this digital divide? Finally, to answer the question you raised raised at the end of your first para, knowledge that is hidden away in a proprietary format, no matter how prevalent the format or how high the quality of the knowledge, is useless in the new paradigm IMNSHO. No. In fact, I said that knowledge needs to be stored in open formats and transmitted using standard (open) protocols. That's necessary. What's not necessary is that the *tools* required to manipulate these formats be free and open source. For example, a Wiki developed in .Net and deployed on Microsoft Server 2k with IIS as the web server is still a Wiki. It will achieve the purpose of knowledge sharing in the same way a Twiki on LAMP does. Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Plan for Freed.in 2008
[As noted by Raj, this discussion should move to the Freed mailing list (copied on this message). All future follow-ups there.] How do I subscribe to it? The Freed 2008 wiki has no link to the mailing list web interface. The Freed 2007 link (at http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Freed2007/TakingPart) doesn't work. Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: NOOOXML: Your action is required: Contact BIS now!
Does anyone know what happened? Dec 11 (yesterday) was when the reps had to be announced. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] (long mail - a report) Linux FOSS workshop at Acharya Narendra Dev College (Delhi University) formation of College LUG
you might find the laugh being at your expense, when you realise that its an outsourced service. I don't think so. Large corporations have strict guidelines and specifications that their vendors need to follow. These may include: * software with exact version * coding guidelines * documentation guidelines * brand guidelines for logo placements, selection of fonts, selection of colours etc. (Microsoft has a 3kg glossy printed book detailing each one of these) So, Microsoft, theoretically, has full control over what their vendors do. It's a different matter, that in this case they're not exercising it, Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: NOOOXML: Your action is required: Contact BIS now!
You can make a difference and call now BIS at +91-1123237991 and help us to find out: a. Who will represent BIS on DIS 29500 at the Ballot Resolution Meeting in Geneva? Did anyone call BIS? Any information on who will be representing our country and what their background is? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Help on Sify Client Installation
I've CentOS 5 and Windows XP installed on my machine,and i'm using the SIFY Connection [128KBPS] for accessing the net. I'm finding a little problem to get on with installation of the Sify Client for Linux,to get start for using Inet on my L-Box. I worked all the way as told by SIFY through the installation process.The installation was cool,but when i tried to access the script to start the client,it showed error asking for some file that it was not able to get. I 'm able to ping my GATEWAY and even access a web page on the local network of SIFY which provides clients for download. The same setting of Network are working fine on Windows. Can you help me out,getting an alternative client or working out with the same. With Regards Saurabh Sharma Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo..com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Revoking/Objecting to Software Patents in Indian Patent Office
A group of people started this group to look into this matter. Could those of you who are interested join in this group and contribute, so that together we can do something. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the info, Nagarjuna. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Latest bug from M$
An attempt by Joel Spolsky to explain the Excel bug: http://joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/09/26b.html Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Revoking/Objecting to Software Patents in Indian Patent Office
http://spicyipindia.blogspot.com/2007/09/spicyip-tidbits_23.html India, prima facie, does not allow pure software patents or business method patents. But that doesn't stop companies from trying. The Indian Patent Office is already being flooded with the patents described as A web based system to do XYZ or A computer system in conjunction with XY to do Z With no one opposing them (and not enough noise about this, like in the case of pharma patents), there's a high probability that this would get granted. Does anyone know of a concerted effort to keep this kind of cruft out from our country? Any pointers? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Adding an image to Disclaimer on Outgoing e-mails
The final email shows up correctly in KMail and Thunderbird with the image being displayed after the disclaimer text, but not so in M$ Outlook. Well it comes as an attachment on M$ Outlook. You might want to read the following blog post. http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/604-navigating-the-html-email-jungle An excerpt: As I type this post I still can't believe it. I'm literally stunned. If you haven't already heard, I'm talking about the recent news that Outlook 2007, released next month, will stop using Internet Explorer to render HTML emails and instead use the crippled Microsoft Word rendering engine. An easy solution is to simply send an email from Thunderbird with an inline image and see if it opens properly in Outlook. If it does, just view the source and make sure your python script is generating *exactly* the same source. I've noticed that random stuff like not putting angular brackets cid:abc around the inline part name also causes some mail clients to barf. HTH, Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact
That means, well, M$ is licensing the gnu/linux OS; which M$ cannot do unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL applies to M$ patents!!! The clause refering to a royalty-free, non-discriminatory, licence to use any applicable patents is in GPLv3 and not GPLv2, IIRC. Correct me if I'm wrong. Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Opening up participation in ILUG-D decision making
Time and again, there have been expressions on this list that management decisions in ILUG-Delhi are taken behind closed doors. While I personally feel that ILUG-D is among the most open organisations that I have been a part of, and strongly resent such implications, there must be some truth behind this, as it has been expressed by many people. Hey Gora, I think it might simply be a case of 'do-ers' making the decisions. Which is good. If you (a) turn up for most of the meetings, (b) give a hand in organizing events (especially Freedel), (c) are an active face, your opinions should obviously have more weightage in the community rather than some lurker on the mailing list hell bent upon discussing pros and cons of GPL/BSD or Emacs/Vi or (insert favourite flame war here). Don't get bogged down by too much process. Get stuff done. Period. PS: Before I get flamed, there will always be cases when active people couldn't make it to a meet where decisions were taken, and they want to debate it on the list. I think everyone is sane enough to listen to the valid points on the list and alter decisions if it makes sense. Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?
we should always emphasize that fighting for freedom is a lifelong process - as they say Fighting to get freedom is not enough, we have to keep fighting forever to preserve it. that's why the name Free-d -- as in daemon (aka ftpd, telnetd, sshd). So it keeps waking up in intervals, fights for freedom, and goes to sleep :) Sorry. Couldn't stop myself :P Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Choice of scripting language on http://courtnic.nic.in
Mahesh, Did you get a reply for this? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Kernel 2.6.15 and DEVFS
Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) and have custom installed the vanilla kernel version 2.6.15-1 -- I needed it for the SiS190 NIC driver. I couldn't find DEVFS anywhere in the kernel configuration menu. Adding the following lines to the '.config' file didn't work: CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT=y [I had picked up these lines from the config file of the standard Ubuntu kernel v2.6.12-9] Has devfs support been withdrawn from the kernel? While booting I get a lot of error messages regarding devfs not being mounted, but apparently my system is working perfectly. Will I face any problem without devfs on Ubuntu? TIA Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ext3 file format
I am ready to shed my pockets for my emails, but i want someone real expert who can do it. Is anyone of you know a real linux recovery expert? Also, how much will he charge?? If e-mails (text only) is your primary concern I *think* the following solution might work: o You have run mke2fs on the corrupted partition o I am assuming that you have not yet written any fresh data on that partition o Which means that your data is still on the disk but is not logically organized in files and directories anymore o Run the following command on the partition and sift through *large* volumes of data to recover your mail root# cat /dev/hda7|strings|less Disclaimer: Please don't blame me if this doesn't work. In case it does, just pass on the 'pocket shedding' this side :-) HTH Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/