Re: [ilugd] Some Trainings/Support In Open OS/Softwares
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:40 PM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: Seems, someone might have hijacked the agenda to make hay while the sun shines ;) I believe, there is no emergency now, as ban (on M$ products) is no more there. http://www.dqweek.com/dq-week/news/23230/jcda-conducts-seminar-open-source -- H.S.Rai ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Some Trainings/Support In Open OS/Softwares
Seems, someone might have hijacked the agenda to make hay while the sun shines ;) I believe, there is no emergency now, as ban (on M$ products) is no more there. http://www.dqweek.com/dq-week/news/23230/jcda-conducts-seminar-open-source yes i have seen this , have not spoken to him , hopefully he is covered well and the steam is not lost after few months. -Satya fossevents.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Dear Sir I am really sorry not to respond in time. I am very much thankful to all of you for taking your valuable time to discuss the topic. This has given us very much needed confidence to explore FOSS. Mr Sudhir Gandotra is in touch with so many associations of Punjab including ACTA and conducted a seminar on installation/manage of Linux on Laptop/Desktop (non commercial). Our members have got confidence in offering FOSS to end customers. The complete event will be shared with the community later on. I am running Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop just after the seminar. What I see, there is a lot to be done for FOSS. It has to come out from LAB, we didn't have any expert in our association, still we are sharing our experience with others and providing whatever solution one gets. Thanks regards Sanjay Gupta M-9814084901 * I am available for any discussion on this topic. I believe, there is no emergency now, as ban (on M$ products) is no more there. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:49 PM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:40 PM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: Seems, someone might have hijacked the agenda to make hay while the sun shines ;) I believe, there is no emergency now, as ban (on M$ products) is no more there. http://www.dqweek.com/dq-week/news/23230/jcda-conducts-seminar-open-source -- H.S.Rai ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 11/14/2012 10:49 PM, H.S.Rai wrote: On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:40 PM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: Seems, someone might have hijacked the agenda to make hay while the sun shines ;) I believe, there is no emergency now, as ban (on M$ products) is no more there. http://www.dqweek.com/dq-week/news/23230/jcda-conducts-seminar-open-source The above said news did/does not cover any of the questions I raised in my earlier post :( -- Balwinder S bdheeman Dheeman (http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 11/14/2012 11:12 PM, sanjay gupta wrote: The complete event will be shared with the community later on. I could not understand the reasons of such delay. What I see, there is a lot to be done for FOSS. It has to come out from LAB, we didn't have any expert in our association, still we are sharing our experience with others and providing whatever solution one gets. The journey of a thousand miles begins with single step -- Laozi http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Laozi (c 604 BC - c 531 BC) in the Tao Te Ching http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Tao_Te_Chingaction=editredlink=1, chapter 64. And that's how the Linux/Unix and hundreds of thousands of other FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) projects were started. The vibrant community or volunteers behind these leave no stone unturned to make this kind of software useful for an average user, but the commercial users pay a little attention to give back to the community, volunteers and, or FLOSS projects. -- Balwinder S bdheeman Dheeman (http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 10/13/2012 07:50 AM, satyaakam goswami wrote: I have created a page for this project http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/ILUGD/ActaTrainings anyone interested can edit the page accordingly. I learned that the JCTA and ACTA organized some training sessions in the recent past; there's no mention of it on the above said page -- how successful these workshops were and, or who delivered these trainings? Were these training workshops video graphed? If yes, where these posted to http://youtube.com/; If yes again, where can one find these? IMHO, these kinds of sessions and, or videos can be useful for others and valuable for the FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) movement in general and the community in particular. Seems, someone might have hijacked the agenda to make hay while the sun shines ;) -- Balwinder S bdheeman Dheeman (http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman bdhee...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, these kinds of sessions and, or videos can be useful for others and valuable for the FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) movement in general and the community in particular. Seems, someone might have hijacked the agenda to make hay while the sun shines ;) I believe, there is no emergency now, as ban is no more there. -- H.S.Rai ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman bdhee...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, these kinds of sessions and, or videos can be useful for others and valuable for the FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) movement in general and the community in particular. Seems, someone might have hijacked the agenda to make hay while the sun shines ;) I believe, there is no emergency now, as ban (on M$ products) is no more there. -- H.S.Rai ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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5.The demand is to develop confidence/awareness in the society about OSS, this topic should not be big enough to take weeks to discuss, it should be on demand, things should be availabe always, we are not going to fight on borders, we are discussing on the cofee table, it should be light enough to be carried by anyone. now i am really confused initially this thread was started asking for help , now you say there are things already happening on the ground and sounds like you are pretty much in good shape , so what is that you are expecting from people in this group ? -Satya fossevents.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:14 PM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: By offering only MS Window solution only. I would like to see choice to customers. We need vendor, you show their customers machines with Linux, Mac, MS Windows. Now a day, to find a vendor who sell, support and promote Linux is difficult to find. Exactly, If we talk about local vendors in towns and in small cities (like one I belong to) they don't even have a slightest of knowledge about what open source or Linux is. These local vendors from towns (like Samrala) buy stuff from big vendors in big cities (like Ludhiana) and after keeping a commission they supply it to local customers and most of these guys are completely unaware of any operating system other than windows. In Punjab Chandigarh, there is great opportunity, for the ultimate benefit of customers. +1 -- Inder Singh http://www.inderplus.com Water can be poured only in empty vessels. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 10/14/2012 12:40 AM, sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com wrote: A great thanx to all the concerned. For your information we have already started and three sessions/seminar is conducted successfully. 4th is on Monday. We will be covering 8 cities of Punjab in this month with the support of our friends. I will be in touch with all of you for further support. Thanx again Regards Sanjay Gupta ACTA, Amritsar Sent from BlackBerry� on Airtel -Original Message- From: Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com Sender: ilugd-bounces+sanjaygupta.amritsar=gmail@lists.linux-delhi.org Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:31:11 To: list ILUGDilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: Re: [ilugd] Some Trainings/Support In Open OS/Softwares On 13 October 2012 08:33, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:15 AM, sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com wrote: This has been started (The News). We welcome all of you to be the part of this movement. Let's start next monday onwards trainings/seminars in each city of punjab and chandigarh even beyond this. Make a page dedicated to OSS with content links, downloads, OEM lists support Linux etc. My team is waiting. What will happen, if M$ takes back FIR, and invites some members to USA to visit their office ;-) If that will not happen, they I am with you. I always fins it difficulty to purchase Linux friendly PC/Laptop (or any other hardware). Many vendor refuses to listen me. Those who are nice and known to me, are favouring me by just letting me to try before purchase, but no support. Our IT Industry is handicapped. [...] Dear Hardeep-ji, Your points are well taken, and I indeed sympathise with your frustration. It can often seem that all various parties in India presenting a facade of support for FOSS are really interested in is promoting their own narrow agenda. Genuine supporters of FOSS seem to get marginalised in this process. Nevertheless, unless we have good reasons to believe otherwise, we should at least try to take on each potential new project at its face value. Given that we have the at least some volunteers, we should extend what support we can to Sanjay-ji. Balwinder, it would be good if you formally assumed lead of this project, and drive it from here on out. $Gora, I agree with you; and I understand it well that some of people are trying their their best to pick the agenda up and want to make hay while the sun shines. Hence, we need to take care of them all. We nevertheless are neither political or religious nor are opportunists of any kind, so we should help only those who either are honest enough who want to give something back to the community or who are real proponents of Linux/Unix and, or FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software). We, no doubt shall take a lead provided someone genuinely approaches us and, or someone else they feel is adequately competent enough to fulfill their needs and, or requirements and is open enough to post all the proceedings to the list and, or web. -- Balwinder S bdheeman Dheeman (http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Dear Sir (Satya) 1.We are having sessions to train our support person on OS (installation/manage/expand) so that they can develop confidence in OSS. 2.Further we will be exploring the device/manufacturer supporting OSS and providing the drivers etc. 3.After getting feedback from the industry/consumer we will upload a Page to provide all the practical solutions there, all the links to get to those software/solutions. 4.We are having 100% practical approach to the technology from a home user to an industry and we wish to design such a solution readily available to all. 5.The demand is to develop confidence/awareness in the society about OSS, this topic should not be big enough to take weeks to discuss, it should be on demand, things should be availabe always, we are not going to fight on borders, we are discussing on the cofee table, it should be light enough to be carried by anyone. Thanx for your concern Sanjay Gupta ACTA, Amritsar On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:50 AM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:40 AM, sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com wrote: A great thanx to all the concerned. For your information we have already started and three sessions/seminar is conducted successfully. 4th is on Monday. We will be covering 8 cities of Punjab in this month with the support of our friends. I will be in touch with all of you for further support. What do you cover and who all are the audience ? can we have some insights into it , my initial assumption was we were trying to get the technical support person on the ground gain skills in order to support Gnu/Linux based systems . -Satya fossevents.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Dear Sir (Prof. (Dr.) H.S.Rai) You are in a position to aware the new generation about the choice available in OS market. There are more than 100 and 1000 professionals available to support OSS, they just need the platform to show them. Let us generate the opportunity to make things live and working. I can take care of more that 1000 business houses in Amritsar. Thanx and regards for your concern Sanjay Gupta Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel -Original Message- From: H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com Sender: ilugd-bounces+sanjaygupta.amritsar=gmail@lists.linux-delhi.org Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:14:39 To: list ILUGDilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: Re: [ilugd] Some Trainings/Support In Open OS/Softwares On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:36 AM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: added you to the list I always fins it difficulty to purchase Linux friendly PC/Laptop (or s/fins/find/ any other hardware). Many vendor refuses to listen me. Those who are nice and known to me, are favouring me by just letting me to try before purchase, but no support. Here is an opportunity to change that mindset. Our IT Industry is handicapped. How? By offering only MS Window solution only. I would like to see choice to customers. We need vendor, you show their customers machines with Linux, Mac, MS Windows. Now a day, to find a vendor who sell, support and promote Linux is difficult to find. In Punjab Chandigarh, there is great opportunity, for the ultimate benefit of customers. Should we consider this boycott, as Dandi march? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_March heeh not at all lets not talk anything negative No thing negative. Just past experience. Many times, such things happened, this time it may be on larger scale than earlier. or try to be on a collision course with any one , stick to the plan and execute lets say for next six months lets see how it all pan's out . +1 -- Prof. (Dr.) H.S.Rai Dean Testing and Consultancy http://gndec.ac.in/tcc/ Guru Nanak Dev Engg. College http://gndec.ac.in/ Ludhiana (Pb) India http://gndec.ac.in/~hsrai/ http://hs.raiandrai.com = = = = = = = = = = = = Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail - Save paper ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 10/13/2012 08:38 PM, sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sir (Prof. (Dr.) H.S.Rai) You are in a position to aware the new generation about the choice available in OS market. There are more than 100 and 1000 professionals available to support OSS, they just need the platform to show them. Let us generate the opportunity to make things live and working. I can take care of more that 1000 business houses in Amritsar. +1 #INFO: Why you must/should use #Linux and, or F/LOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software)? http://bitly.com/IhE767 Dr. H. S. Rai, Please spread the word if agree with reasons I have pointed out in above said article. Thank you, Warm Regards, -- Balwinder S bdheeman Dheeman (http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 13 October 2012 08:33, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:15 AM, sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com wrote: This has been started (The News). We welcome all of you to be the part of this movement. Let's start next monday onwards trainings/seminars in each city of punjab and chandigarh even beyond this. Make a page dedicated to OSS with content links, downloads, OEM lists support Linux etc. My team is waiting. What will happen, if M$ takes back FIR, and invites some members to USA to visit their office ;-) If that will not happen, they I am with you. I always fins it difficulty to purchase Linux friendly PC/Laptop (or any other hardware). Many vendor refuses to listen me. Those who are nice and known to me, are favouring me by just letting me to try before purchase, but no support. Our IT Industry is handicapped. [...] Dear Hardeep-ji, Your points are well taken, and I indeed sympathise with your frustration. It can often seem that all various parties in India presenting a facade of support for FOSS are really interested in is promoting their own narrow agenda. Genuine supporters of FOSS seem to get marginalised in this process. Nevertheless, unless we have good reasons to believe otherwise, we should at least try to take on each potential new project at its face value. Given that we have the at least some volunteers, we should extend what support we can to Sanjay-ji. Balwinder, it would be good if you formally assumed lead of this project, and drive it from here on out. Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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A great thanx to all the concerned. For your information we have already started and three sessions/seminar is conducted successfully. 4th is on Monday. We will be covering 8 cities of Punjab in this month with the support of our friends. I will be in touch with all of you for further support. Thanx again Regards Sanjay Gupta ACTA, Amritsar Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel -Original Message- From: Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com Sender: ilugd-bounces+sanjaygupta.amritsar=gmail@lists.linux-delhi.org Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:31:11 To: list ILUGDilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: Re: [ilugd] Some Trainings/Support In Open OS/Softwares On 13 October 2012 08:33, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:15 AM, sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com wrote: This has been started (The News). We welcome all of you to be the part of this movement. Let's start next monday onwards trainings/seminars in each city of punjab and chandigarh even beyond this. Make a page dedicated to OSS with content links, downloads, OEM lists support Linux etc. My team is waiting. What will happen, if M$ takes back FIR, and invites some members to USA to visit their office ;-) If that will not happen, they I am with you. I always fins it difficulty to purchase Linux friendly PC/Laptop (or any other hardware). Many vendor refuses to listen me. Those who are nice and known to me, are favouring me by just letting me to try before purchase, but no support. Our IT Industry is handicapped. [...] Dear Hardeep-ji, Your points are well taken, and I indeed sympathise with your frustration. It can often seem that all various parties in India presenting a facade of support for FOSS are really interested in is promoting their own narrow agenda. Genuine supporters of FOSS seem to get marginalised in this process. Nevertheless, unless we have good reasons to believe otherwise, we should at least try to take on each potential new project at its face value. Given that we have the at least some volunteers, we should extend what support we can to Sanjay-ji. Balwinder, it would be good if you formally assumed lead of this project, and drive it from here on out. Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:40 AM, sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com wrote: A great thanx to all the concerned. For your information we have already started and three sessions/seminar is conducted successfully. 4th is on Monday. We will be covering 8 cities of Punjab in this month with the support of our friends. I will be in touch with all of you for further support. That's wonderful!!! Can you keep updating about these events at: http://acta-amritsar.org/category/events/ or http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/ILUGD/ActaTrainings Then might be in news papers, which with help in spreading awareness in public, and might your each workshop / training session inaugurated by a person, who can helpful in popularising Linux and get his / her computing shifted to Linux. -- H.S.Rai ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:40 AM, sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com wrote: A great thanx to all the concerned. For your information we have already started and three sessions/seminar is conducted successfully. 4th is on Monday. We will be covering 8 cities of Punjab in this month with the support of our friends. I will be in touch with all of you for further support. What do you cover and who all are the audience ? can we have some insights into it , my initial assumption was we were trying to get the technical support person on the ground gain skills in order to support Gnu/Linux based systems . -Satya fossevents.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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We have a small users group for Chandigarh, but with quite a low traffic; see http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/linux_chandigarh/ if this news is true and happening http://www.dqweek.com/dq-week/news/23096/microsoft-cancels-windows-launch-chandigarh then we would be needing all hands on the deck for the state wide trainings . so we have some folks from Chandigarh , Ludhiana some people can join , who is there in Amritsar ? Boss team how many people and what resources can be counted on ? -Satya ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Dear Sirs This has been started (The News). We welcome all of you to be the part of this movement. Let's start next monday onwards trainings/seminars in each city of punjab and chandigarh even beyond this. Make a page dedicated to OSS with content links, downloads, OEM lists support Linux etc. My team is waiting. Regards Sanjay Gupta Gen.Secretary, ACTA, Amritsar M-9814084901 Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel -Original Message- From: satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com Sender: ilugd-bounces+sanjaygupta.amritsar=gmail@lists.linux-delhi.org Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 00:36:53 To: list ILUGDilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: Re: [ilugd] Some Trainings/Support In Open OS/Softwares We have a small users group for Chandigarh, but with quite a low traffic; see http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/linux_chandigarh/ if this news is true and happening http://www.dqweek.com/dq-week/news/23096/microsoft-cancels-windows-launch-chandigarh then we would be needing all hands on the deck for the state wide trainings . so we have some folks from Chandigarh , Ludhiana some people can join , who is there in Amritsar ? Boss team how many people and what resources can be counted on ? -Satya ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:15 AM, sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sirs This has been started (The News). We welcome all of you to be the part of this movement. Let's start next monday onwards trainings/seminars in each city of punjab and chandigarh even beyond this. Make a page dedicated to OSS with content links, downloads, OEM lists support Linux etc. My team is waiting. I have created a page for this project http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/ILUGD/ActaTrainings anyone interested can edit the page accordingly. -Satya fossevents.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:15 AM, sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com wrote: This has been started (The News). We welcome all of you to be the part of this movement. Let's start next monday onwards trainings/seminars in each city of punjab and chandigarh even beyond this. Make a page dedicated to OSS with content links, downloads, OEM lists support Linux etc. My team is waiting. What will happen, if M$ takes back FIR, and invites some members to USA to visit their office ;-) If that will not happen, they I am with you. I always fins it difficulty to purchase Linux friendly PC/Laptop (or any other hardware). Many vendor refuses to listen me. Those who are nice and known to me, are favouring me by just letting me to try before purchase, but no support. Our IT Industry is handicapped. Should we consider this boycott, as Dandi march? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_March -- H.S.Rai ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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What will happen, if M$ takes back FIR, and invites some members to USA to visit their office ;-) If that will not happen, they I am with you. added you to the list I always fins it difficulty to purchase Linux friendly PC/Laptop (or any other hardware). Many vendor refuses to listen me. Those who are nice and known to me, are favouring me by just letting me to try before purchase, but no support. Here is an opportunity to change that mindset. Our IT Industry is handicapped. How? Should we consider this boycott, as Dandi march? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_March heeh not at all lets not talk anything negative or try to be on a collision course with any one , stick to the plan and execute lets say for next six months lets see how it all pan's out . -Satya fossevents.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 10/11/2012 05:30 PM, navneet sharma wrote: I have not posted my willingness regarding free training in this mailing list just to make FUN. I did not intend that, I otherwise appreciate your sentiments. If anybody in this mailing list have potential users/candidates to get some practical knowledge on linux I am always available and I am doing so from last 10 years regardless to show my worry how will I manage my bills. Linux is free to use, Free to modify and free to distribute..I have made it free to LEARN also. We can count how many people can do it these days. While India had a well known tradition -- not sell education. I am always to work in my domain with the support of you people.. Great, kindly post your replies to the list; no private messages please. Let us make our nation PIRACY FREE..! -- Balwinder S bdheeman Dheeman (http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 10/06/2012 10:10 AM, Gora Mohanty wrote: On 6 October 2012 06:09, Balwinder S Dheeman bdhee...@gmail.com mailto:bdhee...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I reside at Chandigarh and work from home as a freelance consultant; visiting New Delhi (NCR), Amritsar and rest of the major cities of Punjab and Haryana, parts of Himachal, Utrakhand and even Jammu is possible. OK, then maybe it is best if you try to work something out with Sanjay. Please keep us informed, and maybe there are others that can help out. � Sure, I shall/can soon create a page related to free training sessions for the local trainers, hardware assemblers, integrators and, or vendors on deployment (installation, administration, tips and tricks) and road-shows for the general public on the use and benefits of Linux/Unix and Free/Libre Open Source Software. Great. � How about charging a reasonable registration fee from the attendees to cover up the expenses or get these events sponsored by local associations? We, as in ILUG-Delhi, have not charged for attendance in the past, but do ask local associations to cover any costs incurred for travel, food, and lodging. Personally, I see no reason why we cannot charge attendees. One possible model might be to have a broad training session that is free of cost, with incidental expenses covered by a local association. Local associations, and attendees, can then discuss with the trainers on an individual basis regarding more intensive, focused sessions. Yes, we shall try our best to make these events as much free as we can. But we definitely need pay the bills as almost all Free/Libre Open Source Software projects do. Sanjay Gupta, Please comment. � In this specific case, Sanjay has already said that he is ready to do this on a commercial basis. You, and anyone else willing, can take this up further with him. I still invite others volunteers and, or freelancers; together we shall make it movement. -- Balwinder S bdheeman Dheeman (http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 10/05/2012 07:49 AM, Gora Mohanty wrote: On 5 October 2012 06:20, Balwinder S Dheeman bdhee...@gmail.com mailto:bdhee...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/05/2012 01:20 AM, sanjay gupta wrote: I will go to any extent to acheive my goals. There is no problem in coming to Delhi for these sessions if I get offered by someone. I will take care of local trainings later on. I have to cover the complete state of Punjab. I am in touch of all the association of this state. Please contact me to plan the training sessions and even road-shows; I shall/can spare a few weekends (Saturdays and Sundays only). [...] Where are you based, and are you planning to do this in Amritsar, or in Delhi? If it is the latter, I can also help out. I reside at Chandigarh and work from home as a freelance consultant; visiting New Delhi (NCR), Amritsar and rest of the major cities of Punjab and Haryana, parts of Himachal, Utrakhand and even Jammu is possible. It might be best if we could plan an agenda for such trainings, and announce them so as to get more attendees. Would it be possible for you to take the initiative on this by creating a page on http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/ ? Sure, I shall/can soon create a page related to free training sessions for the local trainers, hardware assemblers, integrators and, or vendors on deployment (installation, administration, tips and tricks) and road-shows for the general public on the use and benefits of Linux/Unix and Free/Libre Open Source Software. How about charging a reasonable registration fee from the attendees to cover up the expenses or get these events sponsored by local associations? Sanjay Gupta, Please comment. Best wishes, -- Balwinder S bdheeman Dheeman (http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 6 October 2012 06:09, Balwinder S Dheeman bdhee...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I reside at Chandigarh and work from home as a freelance consultant; visiting New Delhi (NCR), Amritsar and rest of the major cities of Punjab and Haryana, parts of Himachal, Utrakhand and even Jammu is possible. OK, then maybe it is best if you try to work something out with Sanjay. Please keep us informed, and maybe there are others that can help out. Sure, I shall/can soon create a page related to free training sessions for the local trainers, hardware assemblers, integrators and, or vendors on deployment (installation, administration, tips and tricks) and road-shows for the general public on the use and benefits of Linux/Unix and Free/Libre Open Source Software. Great. How about charging a reasonable registration fee from the attendees to cover up the expenses or get these events sponsored by local associations? We, as in ILUG-Delhi, have not charged for attendance in the past, but do ask local associations to cover any costs incurred for travel, food, and lodging. Personally, I see no reason why we cannot charge attendees. One possible model might be to have a broad training session that is free of cost, with incidental expenses covered by a local association. Local associations, and attendees, can then discuss with the trainers on an individual basis regarding more intensive, focused sessions. Sanjay Gupta, Please comment. In this specific case, Sanjay has already said that he is ready to do this on a commercial basis. You, and anyone else willing, can take this up further with him. Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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OK, then maybe it is best if you try to work something out with Sanjay. Please keep us informed, and maybe there are others that can help out. I will be in Ludhiana speaking coming on 11-12th for this event http://www.twenty19.com/opportunities/organiser/guru-nanak-dev-engineering-college-ludhiana/ignite-12 hope to catch up with people around there then. Sure, I shall/can soon create a page related to free training sessions for the local trainers, hardware assemblers, integrators and, or vendors on deployment (installation, administration, tips and tricks) and road-shows for the general public on the use and benefits of Linux/Unix and Free/Libre Open Source Software. I too am interested will chime in . Great. How about charging a reasonable registration fee from the attendees to cover up the expenses or get these events sponsored by local associations? We, as in ILUG-Delhi, have not charged for attendance in the past, but do ask local associations to cover any costs incurred for travel, food, and lodging. Personally, I see no reason why we cannot charge attendees. +1 , ILUG-Delhi as a society why not, we can build some corpus amount with the extras and spend it on more events. One possible model might be to have a broad training session that is free of cost, with incidental expenses covered by a local association. Local associations, and attendees, can then discuss with the trainers on an individual basis regarding more intensive, focused sessions. This is one model which has not worked in the past as we know there is no follow up with any of the colleges and institutions , may be as an active society these kinds of items can be take up proactively , something like a quarterly news letter to all the colleges and associations in and around NCR. -Satya ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 6 October 2012 10:22, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: How about charging a reasonable registration fee from the attendees to cover up the expenses or get these events sponsored by local associations? We, as in ILUG-Delhi, have not charged for attendance in the past, but do ask local associations to cover any costs incurred for travel, food, and lodging. Personally, I see no reason why we cannot charge attendees. +1 , ILUG-Delhi as a society why not, we can build some corpus amount with the extras and spend it on more events. We had discussions on this in the past, and I remember now why we had decided not to do this. While it would defray expenses, bring money into the ILUG-Delhi kitty, and maybe allow us to pay trainers, the main objection to this was that the LUG should not be setting itself up in commercial competition to local startups providing Linux support. Besides, there are significant managerial headaches for such a setup. One possible model might be to have a broad training session that is free of cost, with incidental expenses covered by a local association. Local associations, and attendees, can then discuss with the trainers on an individual basis regarding more intensive, focused sessions. This is one model which has not worked in the past as we know there is no follow up with any of the colleges and institutions , may be as an active society these kinds of items can be take up proactively , something like a quarterly news letter to all the colleges and associations in and around NCR. Yeah, in the case of no follow up, the free of cost session, where expenses are covered but time is volunteered, will be the only one. Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Some Trainings/Support In Open OS/Softwares
Dear Sir I am a solution provider and system integrator at Amritsar. I want a training session for my Association member on Linux/Linux Variant. How to install/manage this OS on Laptops/Desktops. This will be great support to our community, if possible do reply me. Best Regards Sanjay Gupta Gen.Secretary, ACTA Amritsar ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Thanx again dear, I will go to any extent to acheive my goals. There is no problem in coming to Delhi for these sessions if I get offered by someone. I will take care of local trainings later on. I have to cover the complete state of Punjab. I am in touch of all the association of this state. Regards Sanjay Gupta On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: On 4 October 2012 23:52, sanjay gupta sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com wrote: Dear sir Extremely Thanks for the reply. I used to silently watch your communication as i am not familiar with the topic you discuss yet i have started my career way back to 1991 as a software developer. At present I am gen.secretary to ACTA (Amritsar Computer Traders Association) having more than 100 members formed for the welfare of its members and society primarly computer hardware traders. As most of the pc users are used to Microsoft, some want to switch to other but due to lack of support/training/exposure/availibility/suspicion could not started with other OS. I want to change the scenario here with the live session on Linux and this is possible only with the professional like you friends. If it is a commercial our association will bear the cost. If someone goes for Microsoft he has to pay nearly 2/- for single pc but he did not need to pay this much to do the work on internet, but due to non familiarity with other OS he is bound to transfer this much of foreign currency to Microsoft headquarters. I want you people support to achieve my goals. This sounds good, but did you mean to send it just to me, or to the mailing list at large (it has been sent just to me). Unfortunately, I am not in a position to offer Linux support in Amritsar, beyond maybe a one-off visit as part of a ILUG-Delhi initiative. So, please post this to the list, and maybe you will find someone willing to help out in Amritsar. I think that you will find two kinds of viewpoints in this regard: * There might be people willing to do this on a voluntary basis, but then they will probably want a buy-in to FOSS ideals from the side of your association, and that is something that you will need to convince them about. * On a commercial basis, you should be able to find some startup company, or some bright kids willing to work with your association on this. Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 10/05/2012 01:20 AM, sanjay gupta wrote: I will go to any extent to acheive my goals. There is no problem in coming to Delhi for these sessions if I get offered by someone. I will take care of local trainings later on. I have to cover the complete state of Punjab. I am in touch of all the association of this state. Please contact me to plan the training sessions and even road-shows; I shall/can spare a few weekends (Saturdays and Sundays only). On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: On 4 October 2012 23:52, sanjay gupta sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com wrote: Extremely Thanks for the reply. I used to silently watch your communication as i am not familiar with the topic you discuss yet i have started my career way back to 1991 as a software developer. At present I am gen.secretary to ACTA (Amritsar Computer Traders Association) having more than 100 members formed for the welfare of its members and society primarly computer hardware traders. As most of the pc users are used to Microsoft, some want to switch to other but due to lack of support/training/exposure/availibility/suspicion could not started with other OS. I want to change the scenario here with the live session on Linux and this is possible only with the professional like you friends. If it is a commercial our association will bear the cost. If someone goes for Microsoft he has to pay nearly 2/- for single pc but he did not need to pay this much to do the work on internet, but due to non familiarity with other OS he is bound to transfer this much of foreign currency to Microsoft headquarters. I want you people support to achieve my goals. This sounds good, but did you mean to send it just to me, or to the mailing list at large (it has been sent just to me). Unfortunately, I am not in a position to offer Linux support in Amritsar, beyond maybe a one-off visit as part of a ILUG-Delhi initiative. So, please post this to the list, and maybe you will find someone willing to help out in Amritsar. I think that you will find two kinds of viewpoints in this regard: * There might be people willing to do this on a voluntary basis, but then they will probably want a buy-in to FOSS ideals from the side of your association, and that is something that you will need to convince them about. * On a commercial basis, you should be able to find some startup company, or some bright kids willing to work with your association on this. Regards, Gora -- Balwinder S bdheeman Dheeman (http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 5 October 2012 06:20, Balwinder S Dheeman bdhee...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/05/2012 01:20 AM, sanjay gupta wrote: I will go to any extent to acheive my goals. There is no problem in coming to Delhi for these sessions if I get offered by someone. I will take care of local trainings later on. I have to cover the complete state of Punjab. I am in touch of all the association of this state. Please contact me to plan the training sessions and even road-shows; I shall/can spare a few weekends (Saturdays and Sundays only). [...] Where are you based, and are you planning to do this in Amritsar, or in Delhi? If it is the latter, I can also help out. It might be best if we could plan an agenda for such trainings, and announce them so as to get more attendees. Would it be possible for you to take the initiative on this by creating a page on http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/ ? Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
