Re: Mail Inbox Balloons with Multiple Copies
Does anybody have thoughts on the Time Machine vs. Mail angle? Thanks Harry, for your rebuild routine. I'm saving it in case this duplication happens again. For now, the duplicates are gone. Will the Imported mailboxes all wind up in a new Imported folder? Will they replace my existing set of a couple dozen folders or will they sit at the bottom of my existing list? If at the bottom, I'd have to somehow manually rearrange things to look like before. By the way, a couple years ago, I fumble-moused a folder or two into chaos. With Time Machine, I restored the entire Mail Folder in my UsersLibrary. Very Fast. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mail Inbox Balloons with Multiple Copies
Al, What happens is that everything is put back just like it was and all of the items in a corrupted database are rebuilt. You can run this procedure over and over and at the end everything will be just like it was when you started. All Mail Box's will be the same and you won't have any folders that say Imported well unless you had Imported Mail Box's when you started. I especially use this procedure when I (for what ever reason) have mail that will not move or delete. Eccenually it is the same as selecting a mailbox and the selecting the Rebuild function. Cheers Harry (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl On Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:35:58 AM UTC-7, Al Poulin wrote: Does anybody have thoughts on the Time Machine vs. Mail angle? Thanks Harry, for your rebuild routine. I'm saving it in case this duplication happens again. For now, the duplicates are gone. Will the Imported mailboxes all wind up in a new Imported folder? Will they replace my existing set of a couple dozen folders or will they sit at the bottom of my existing list? If at the bottom, I'd have to somehow manually rearrange things to look like before. By the way, a couple years ago, I fumble-moused a folder or two into chaos. With Time Machine, I restored the entire Mail Folder in my UsersLibrary. Very Fast. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mail Inbox Balloons with Multiple Copies
Greetings Al, The best way to clean up the Apple Mail mailbox is to: Open ~Library/Mail then locate the file Envelope Index and drag it to your desktop. Then Open Mail, but when you open mail it will tell you that this is the first time that you have open Mail How ever that's Okay, click on the button to proceed and you will get a message that says importing mail If you have a lot of mail it could take quite a long time so be paicient. When it;s done you'll have a clean install of your saved mail. If you still have duplicates then your problem is elsewhere. Let us know after you've done the rebuild. Cheers Harry (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl On Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:08:13 PM UTC-7, Al Poulin wrote: Could Time Machine be messing me up with my email? I have the last 24 iMac, Display Port, March 2009, running Snow Leopard 10.6.8 with Mail 4.6. On October 16 and 25, the Inbox of one of my three accounts became populated with up to six, unread copies of emails. These emails had remained in the Inbox or been moved to other folders or into the Trash after reading. Some messages were not duplicated. I use POP mail and keep the window shade at the bottom of the window. The Inbox contents usually amount to about 3/4 of one screen full. With the duplicated messages, the contents amounted to over five screens. On both occasions, I restored the offending Inbox with Time Machine. Time Machine created its own folder in Mail and provided the correct Inbox contents in a new Recovered Mailboxes folder. I dragged the contents of the bad Inbox to the Trash and then dragged the contents of the Recovered Mailboxes folder to the now empty Inbox. And all seems well. There is nothing wrong at the Gmail website. The same email account behaves properly on other devices in the house. This morning, with my back to the machines, I heard the Time Capsule working and then go silent. In an instant, I then heard a new message alert. Turning around, I found the duplicate contents in the Inbox. Mail was set to check for new messages every minute. In Console, the All Messages file shows nothing that I can suspect related to the problem. Thanks for any enlightenment. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: App that gets rid of stuff on a photo
On 26 Oct 2012, at 18:32, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:11 AM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: For some reason, when I take pictures, my thumb tends to be want to be in the photo, too. I bought Snapheal, thinking that this would be a good program to get rid of those thumbs. But it doesn't do the trick. (Snapheal seems good for small, isolated unwanted objects.) Can anyone recommend an App that is simple to use and gets rid of unwanted objects? Photoshop's Healing brush is totally awesome at this, but Snapheal is also supposed to be very good at it. I used to have this problem. I solved it by getting a new camera that didn't let me stick my fingers in the image easily :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely Pixelmator is reasonably cheap, and pretty powerful. The healing tool in that is awesome too, and oughta do what you want (and more) for a lot less $$$ than photoshop. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: App that gets rid of stuff on a photo
Arg, sorry, pixelmator is 10.7+, so probably not such a good choice, apologies! On 26 Oct 2012, at 18:32, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:11 AM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: For some reason, when I take pictures, my thumb tends to be want to be in the photo, too. I bought Snapheal, thinking that this would be a good program to get rid of those thumbs. But it doesn't do the trick. (Snapheal seems good for small, isolated unwanted objects.) Can anyone recommend an App that is simple to use and gets rid of unwanted objects? Photoshop's Healing brush is totally awesome at this, but Snapheal is also supposed to be very good at it. I used to have this problem. I solved it by getting a new camera that didn't let me stick my fingers in the image easily :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G4 Flat Panel DVD drive
I did come across that program, Bruce. If that is the one that Harry is referring to, then, as you say, it is intended for DVD burners, not DVD-ROMs. Thanks... Bob On Oct 25, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 25, 2012, at 4:44 AM, gifutiger wrote: There is a small program that makes Apple non-approved CD/DVD player compatible. Search dogpile.com for make DVD Mac compatible That would be PatchBurn, and I don't think it dealt with non-burning drives -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G4 Flat Panel DVD drive
I'm sorry that you couldn't fine the program, but then I couldn't find it either. It was more than 10 years ago that I use the application and I just don't remember the name of the program. I'll look through my old programs to see if I've still got it in the archives. Cheers Harry --- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G4 Flat Panel DVD drive
That's it Patchburn IIRC you have to install Patchburn every time you boot, but that's not a hard thing, just pot it into you start-up item list. Cheers Harr -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G4 Flat Panel DVD drive
No you only need to run it once. I very vaguely recall something like what you describe for OS 8 or 9. -- Bruce Johnson UA College of Pharmacy On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:26 PM, gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com wrote: That's it Patchburn IIRC you have to install Patchburn every time you boot, but that's not a hard thing, just pot it into you start-up item list. Cheers Harr -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G4 Flat Panel DVD drive
Drive jumpers are fine. The DVD is set as Slave, just like its predecessor. Also, I just want to be clear here, other than these 2 issues that I mentioned, the drive performs all read operations flawlessly. I installed Leopard with it, and it works well with CDs (data music), DVD-Video as well. On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Christopher Satterfield wrote: I would check drive jumper settings. I have a non-Apple drive in both my Powermac G4/400 and Powermac G5 and both see the drive in disk utility and such. While neither are an iMac I don't see how the firmware between the iMac and Powermac can be that much different in that a 3rd party optical drive won't work. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Apple Pro Keyboard
Another keyboard that is bad, but has the keycaps... ask your local university. Dan On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:54 PM, MacBob61 macbo...@cox.net wrote: Another question regarding my recently acquired iMac G4. This came with the Apple Pro Keyboard, Model M7803 (White). It is in perfect condition, except that it is missing the Mute keycap (top row, 2nd from right - between the Volume Up Eject keys). Any ideas as to where I could get a replacement? Thanks... Bob -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- There's no place like ~/... -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G4 Flat Panel DVD drive
I have a 20 G4 that I maxed the RAM out in, and installed a new DVD-RW into. You can get the DVD-RW at Newegg for about $12.00 and the RAM you can max out to 2GB with 1 GB RAM strips. You can get that from them too. Now, I'm not sure if your 17 can go up to 2GB RAM or not. There's a free program called MacTracker that'll look-up your exact iMac model and tell you the max you can go to. Then on iFixIt.com, you can find directions for doing the surgery... but it sounds like you've already been in there, so this should be a walk in the park. With the new DVD-RW, you'll really be able to utilize the Mac and have some fun with it. Good Luck--God Bless! On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 23, 2012, at 3:44 PM, MacBob61 macbo...@cox.net wrote: I recently picked up a nice iMac Flat Panel G4 700MHz. This came with the CD-RW drive. Since I wanted to be able to use DVDs (and also install Leopard), I replaced the CD-RW drive with a DVD-ROM drive from one of my old PCs. It actually works very well, with a couple of very minor exceptions: 1) The drive is completely invisible (and therefore unusable) in Disk Utility. 2) The eject.menu icon in the menu bar shows No Drives when attempting to eject. The Disk Utility issue hasn't proven to be a problem yet. But, if the Eject key on my keyboard ever died, the 2nd issue could become a problem. Anyway, does anyone have any ideas as to why these issues exist? Yep, set the jumper to CS (cable select) and you should be in business. Confirm that setting by looking at the jumper setting on the CDRW you removed. If that doesn't work, you may have a cross-platform compatibility issue, which is not surprising given the age of the hardware. Jim Scott Eureka, CA -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.net 281.467.5366 281.586.9876 fax + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. Proverbs 3:5-6 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: eMac recap
On Oct 21, 2012, at 5:52 PM, D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.net wrote: I know it's not an iMac, but it looks similar, so I thought I'd ask here. Has anyone ever replaced the bad capacitors on one of these? I have access to a nice digital Weller soldering iron and would consider myself fair with basic soldering. Or I would consider letting someone near me with experience do this. Your thoughts? Doug Portland, OR G4 eMacs are a lot easier to work on than G5 iMacs where capacitor replacement is concerned. I've replaced caps on about a dozen eMac logic boards so far, with 100 percent success. Can't say that about G5 iMacs. :^( eMacs require ordinary solder/desolder skills, unlike iMac G5s, which have multilayer boards and use no-lead, high-temp solder. I've discovered that it's smart to replace only those caps that have bulging tops, whether they're leaking or not, or caps that are tilted from failure at the bottom rubber seal. You can go ahead and replace them all, but in my experience it's a waste of time. The most likely source of bad caps in an eMac (ATI and higher) is the down converter, which is plugged into the logic board on the side opposite the ports. There are 12 caps on the down converter board, and I've seen up to 9 bad ones ... and no bad caps on the logic board. Since the down converter powers both drives as well as the logic board, the range of symptoms is awesome. There are kits sold for logic board replacement caps, but none are available for down converters. A good used down converter is getting pretty hard to find, and what new ones are out there are more expensive than a working eMac is worth. I've managed to cannibalize bad down converters for good caps and salvage a few that way. But sooner or later I'm going to be forced to buy individual caps. Good luck! Jim Scott Eureka, CA -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: eMac recap
On Oct 21, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: You just have to be careful working on eMacs, there is a chance of getting zapped. I'm not sure exactly how, but that's what I've always been told. You'd have to look it up to be sure. -Jonas eMacs are no more lethal that any other all-in-one computer with an exposed CRT, power supply and other sources of potential electrical mayhem once the case is removed. iMac G3s and eMacs have a quite similar layout, with the power/analog/video hardware on the top side of a divider board, and the logic board/hard drive/optical drive and downconverter on the bottom side. I've been inside hundreds and hundreds of iMacs and eMacs, always practicing proper precautions around the power/analog/video area, because that's where the zapping is most likely to occur. Though logic board and downconverter capacitors carry a small charge, it dissipates quickly once a computer is shut down and unplugged. So there's little danger when replacing capacitors. Jim -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
Thanks to everybody for your suggestions! Some have pointed out my search terms were too generic. I know, and I agree they were statistically inaccurate (to say the least). That's why I thought to ask to you guys! :-) Dennis advised to keep with Snow Leopard, and not going to Lion/M. Lion. I agree. I'm (happily) with Tiger now, I (badly) disliked Lion U.I., and I plan to stick to Snow Leopard for the foreseeable future on my new iMac. Besides, I currently own mostly PPC software, so I need Rosetta. Bruce advised to go for Aluminum models, the White ones being too old and with limited memory I agree. Since several of you praised their 24 iMacs, and the 21,5 screen is too vertically-limited for my need (it's vertically shorter than my 21 CRT monitor), I've decided the 24 iMac is the perfect choice to me. Any further advice is welcome. Thanks again, Valter -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
I also love the 24 Aluminum intel's, I still use a 2007 2.8 extreme with ML as my main machine. No problems whatsoever. - Brian On Oct 12, 2012, at 3:08 AM, ValterV val...@psicofelicita.it wrote: Thanks to everybody for your suggestions! Some have pointed out my search terms were too generic. I know, and I agree they were statistically inaccurate (to say the least). That's why I thought to ask to you guys! :-) Dennis advised to keep with Snow Leopard, and not going to Lion/M. Lion. I agree. I'm (happily) with Tiger now, I (badly) disliked Lion U.I., and I plan to stick to Snow Leopard for the foreseeable future on my new iMac. Besides, I currently own mostly PPC software, so I need Rosetta. Bruce advised to go for Aluminum models, the White ones being too old and with limited memory I agree. Since several of you praised their 24 iMacs, and the 21,5 screen is too vertically-limited for my need (it's vertically shorter than my 21 CRT monitor), I've decided the 24 iMac is the perfect choice to me. Any further advice is welcome. Thanks again, Valter -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
On Oct 12, 3:08 am, ValterV val...@psicofelicita.it wrote: Since several of you praised their 24 iMacs, and the 21,5 screen is too vertically-limited for my need (it's vertically shorter than my 21 CRT monitor), I've decided the 24 iMac is the perfect choice to me. Any further advice is welcome. My 24 iMac is the last model, Display Port, March 2009. No problems with daily home use for hours at a time. I second the earlier comment about looking at lowendmac.com . Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
Bad capacitors plagued the G5 iMacs. I have opened several of those and the work is in replacing capacitors on the logicboard not opening it. My 24 inch iMac has been a reliable performer since day one. When it comes time to,upgrade, I plan to keep it in my workshop and retire a G5 PowerMac. I recently refurbished a 27 inch iMac which I would have bought from its owner but he wouldn't sell it. Except for a software issue which I resolved for him, he never lost a day using his 27 inch. Best Wishes, Bob Sent from my iPad On Oct 10, 2012, at 1:45 AM, ValterV val...@psicofelicita.it wrote: Hi all! I just joined this group, because I'm pondering about getting an used Intel iMac (replacing a PM G5 DP 2.7), and I need your expertise. :-) I am interested in the 24 models, but I did a little Googling and it seems the 24 models were problematic: - Googling imac 24 problems gives almost 32M results - Typing 20 instead of 24, it gives 61M results - With 21.5 it gives a little over 1M - With 27, 14M. Does it mean the 24 iMacs were quite troublesome? Basing on these figures, the 24 seems the worst model, besides the 20 model (but the 20 could have been sold way more); and the 21.5 seems the less troublesome (or the least sold, but It doesn't seem likely). The 21.5 model would be my second choice, if the 24 isn't much realiable (processor speed would always be more than my G5, so it's not an issue). Since I'm going to buy a relatively old machine, I would like to know in advance if I'm getting into likely trouble. I'm somehow good with hardware and troubleshooting, but opening the iMacs is no piece of cake, so I try to avoid it as much as I can. I heard several times about bad capacitors' fault in iMacs, but I don't know if they happen in every iMac model or just in some. Any info about reliability would be welcome. Thanks in advance, Valter -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
My G5 iMac is working fine, though I did have to replace the power supply a couple of months ago. That said, however, I was forced to move to an intel iMac (21.5) due to the requirements for the iPhone 5. If you do go to Intel, try to get one that runs Snow Leopard (Mac OS 10.6.x) if you can. Unless you have something that mandates it, stay away from Lion/Mountain Lion (Mac OS 10.7.x/10.8.x); I'm having lots of problems with Lion. -- Sincerely, Dennis On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Robert Esposito bobespos...@mac.comwrote: Bad capacitors plagued the G5 iMacs. I have opened several of those and the work is in replacing capacitors on the logicboard not opening it. My 24 inch iMac has been a reliable performer since day one. When it comes time to,upgrade, I plan to keep it in my workshop and retire a G5 PowerMac. I recently refurbished a 27 inch iMac which I would have bought from its owner but he wouldn't sell it. Except for a software issue which I resolved for him, he never lost a day using his 27 inch. Best Wishes, Bob Sent from my iPad On Oct 10, 2012, at 1:45 AM, ValterV val...@psicofelicita.it wrote: Hi all! I just joined this group, because I'm pondering about getting an used Intel iMac (replacing a PM G5 DP 2.7), and I need your expertise. :-) I am interested in the 24 models, but I did a little Googling and it seems the 24 models were problematic: - Googling imac 24 problems gives almost 32M results - Typing 20 instead of 24, it gives 61M results - With 21.5 it gives a little over 1M - With 27, 14M. Does it mean the 24 iMacs were quite troublesome? Basing on these figures, the 24 seems the worst model, besides the 20 model (but the 20 could have been sold way more); and the 21.5 seems the less troublesome (or the least sold, but It doesn't seem likely). The 21.5 model would be my second choice, if the 24 isn't much realiable (processor speed would always be more than my G5, so it's not an issue). Since I'm going to buy a relatively old machine, I would like to know in advance if I'm getting into likely trouble. I'm somehow good with hardware and troubleshooting, but opening the iMacs is no piece of cake, so I try to avoid it as much as I can. I heard several times about bad capacitors' fault in iMacs, but I don't know if they happen in every iMac model or just in some. Any info about reliability would be welcome. Thanks in advance, Valter -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
At 10:45 PM -0700 10/09/2012, ValterV wrote: pondering about getting an used Intel iMac I am interested in the 24 models, but I did a little Googling and it seems the 24 models were problematic Your search terms are so generic I'm not surprised you got bazillions of results. Does it mean the 24 iMacs were quite troublesome? Go by model release/year, not screen size. The technology used in the screens has improved by leaps and bounds, to the point that screen sizes from differing years rarely have much in common. FWIW, I've run across quite a few late 2006 models with video problems. And anything before 2009 is about due for HD issues. Buy a set of suction cups! As with buying any used machine, try to get its history and avoid ashtrays. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:45 PM, ValterV wrote: Hi all! I just joined this group, because I'm pondering about getting an used Intel iMac (replacing a PM G5 DP 2.7), and I need your expertise. :-) I am interested in the 24 models, but I did a little Googling and it seems the 24 models were problematic: - Googling imac 24 problems gives almost 32M results - Typing 20 instead of 24, it gives 61M results - With 21.5 it gives a little over 1M - With 27, 14M. Does it mean the 24 iMacs were quite troublesome? Basing on these figures, the 24 seems the worst model, besides the 20 model (but the 20 could have been sold way more); and the 21.5 seems the less troublesome (or the least sold, but It doesn't seem likely). The 21.5 model would be my second choice, if the 24 isn't much realiable (processor speed would always be more than my G5, so it's not an issue). No, you have no sound basis in the data you offer for making those statements. If your aim is to determine hardware reliability the results you got are meaningless, since things like I just got a new 24 iMac, and now I have a problem, my wife wants one too! and I had a problem installing Photoshop on my 24 iMac would count. There is also the 'Squeaky Wheel' syndrome: Complaints beget 'Me Too!' postings and so complaints outnumber positives. It includes issues like problem with video drivers or system updates which do not relate at all to hardware reliability Finally we do not know how many of which size Apple's sold over the years...anecdotal evidence would indicate that more 24 and 27 models have been sold all told. Since I'm going to buy a relatively old machine, I would like to know in advance if I'm getting into likely trouble. I'm somehow good with hardware and troubleshooting, but opening the iMacs is no piece of cake, so I try to avoid it as much as I can. I heard several times about bad capacitors' fault in iMacs, but I don't know if they happen in every iMac model or just in some. The capacitor plague was confined entirely to G5 iMac models. In my experience, the Intel-based iMacs have been remarkably reliable, none of the numerous ones installed here have needed servicing, and the 24 one is by far the most popular, followed closely by the 27 model. Also, working on the newer aluminum intel iMacs (you want to avoid any white iMac models as they're obsolete now, with poor performance and low memory ceilings) isn't actually that hard, provided you get the right tool to remove the glass screen. (which is available at Home Depot, since it's just a suction-cup tool for handling panes of glass) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:45 PM, ValterV wrote: I just joined this group, because I'm pondering about getting an used Intel iMac (replacing a PM G5 DP 2.7), and I need your expertise. :-) I am interested in the 24 models, but I did a little Googling and it seems the 24 models were problematic: - Googling imac 24 problems gives almost 32M results - Typing 20 instead of 24, it gives 61M results - With 21.5 it gives a little over 1M - With 27, 14M. Does it mean the 24 iMacs were quite troublesome? Basing on these figures, the 24 seems the worst model, besides the 20 model (but the 20 could have been sold way more); and the 21.5 seems the less troublesome (or the least sold, but It doesn't seem likely). The 21.5 model would be my second choice, if the 24 isn't much realiable (processor speed would always be more than my G5, so it's not an issue). Since I'm going to buy a relatively old machine, I would like to know in advance if I'm getting into likely trouble. I'm somehow good with hardware and troubleshooting, but opening the iMacs is no piece of cake, so I try to avoid it as much as I can. I heard several times about bad capacitors' fault in iMacs, but I don't know if they happen in every iMac model or just in some. Any info about reliability would be welcome. As the owner of several iMacs over quite some years, I am amused by your methodology for determining problematic models. Apple has so far sold over 40 different Intel iMac models, including 8 with 24 screens. Your generic search results are hardly meaningful. My current daily-use desktop Mac is a 2009 24 iMac. The screen size is perfect for my needs. I have had no problems whatsoever with it. Just before its AppleCare coverage expired back in July, I took it to our local Apple Store for a thorough checkup/tuneup. They found nothing wrong with it. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Christopher Satterfield christopher1...@gmail.com wrote: I myself have never had any problems with school iMacs or anyone's really. The only problem I have ever observed that can't be fixed from something in a parts bin was one iMac that wouldn't burn DVDs unless it was laying on it's back, weird but that did the trick. We ended up replacing the drive with a firewire drive. The particular iMac is a 17 2 GHz Core 2 Duo model, and it's the one out of around 10 that came up with a problem at all. If I were going to say the most troublesome iMac I've ever seen, I would say the iMac G5, killed by cheap (probably) Chinese caps. I had 2 major problems with my iMac G5 ALS: Bad Bluetooth/WiFi Module and it's socket on the logic board; both replaced under AppleCare (years ago) Dead power supply a couple of months ago; I ordered a new one and replaced the dead one. Not bad for a 7+ year-old machine. -- Sincerely, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Is there a way to get a better ProKit Private Framework for 10.6.8?
I agree, what a mess Mountain Lion is - I had to upgrade since the i-cloud started with this i - crap stuff - I can't play most of my favorite games, and since I only have a desktop computer - no cell phone, tablet, notebook, etc - there is not any benefit to me from this new o/s - Dennis On Oct 08, 2012, at 03:47 AM, John David Mings jdmi...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry Bruce to be so late. The problem turned out to be the GPU on my 7.1 2007 iMac-it worked well in 10.5 but 10.6 killed it, I had to buy a new Mac and it came with Mountain Lion,what as messIMHO. i won't go on a rant but my advice to those not so experienced as Bruce stay away from Mountain Lion if you possibly can. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Is there a way to get a better ProKit Private Framework for 10.6.8?
On Oct 8, 2012, at 3:47 AM, John David Mings wrote: . The problem turned out to be the GPU on my 7.1 2007 iMac-it worked well in 10.5 but 10.6 killed it, Installing a new OS cannot possibly 'kill' a GPU. It's likely that it's mere coincidence I had to buy a new Mac and it came with Mountain Lion,what as messIMH Going from 10.5 to 10.8 would be jarring, but not to someone who's already upgraded to 10.7. That was the big jump. It's annoying, I'm having to switch back and forth constantly, my main production work system is still running 10.6, mainly for lack of time to update it, but my home systems are running 10.7, soon to be 10.8, and I've got a new Mini running 10.8 server that I'm starting to play with. It feels like an odd duck to me; I'm used to running servers with ssh and vi; servers with GUIs are Windows. OS X server feels kinda 'uncanny valley'-ish...in-between. :-/ -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: can't boot after overwritting the recovery partition
On Sep 24, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Antonio Linares wrote: This morning I dd'ed (if=... of=...) to the recovery partition. For my surprise, after restart, the iMac no longer boots. FireWire does not activate. Option does not show anything. Pressing C does not boot from the DVD. I have also tried to netboot, safe mode, etc... Any hints ? I can't imagine that I have to open the Mac cause I overwritten a partition... :-( What DOES it do? Does it come up to a flashing Folder/Question mark? Endless spinning gear? What model iMac is this? What OS? I assume 10.7/10.8 since you're talking about overwriting the recovery partition. No, borking a partition like that should not render the Mac unable to boot from the system DVD. If you've sufficiently messed up the drive it might prevent it from mounting via Firewire. Last, most unlikely, this isn't a Mac that originally shipped with the old 'ice cube tray' keyboard, that you're using a modern flat aluminum one? I found out the hard way that that keyboard isn't supported on older machines for doing things like booting from the DVD, since they keyboard isn't recognized until after the OS loads. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: how to divide a new 2 Terrabyte external drive
On Sep 23, 2012, at 7:35 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I just bought a new 2T external drive to use for my iMac back up. I use SuperDuper to back up and of course, Time Machine. So at least 2 partitions. Now throw this into the mix: TechToolPro. Micromat suggests I make an edrive of TTP to use as a start up drive. ( From Micromat: Note that the eDrive is a preferable option to the DVD (for 10.6, which I am using), being faster, more functional, and easier to update. Because it appears that Apple is no longer going to update the boot DVD that we use, the eDrive will be more compatible moving forward.) Micromat suggested that I make a partition on my internal drive for the edrive. But wouldn't I have to erase the whole drive and start over? I see no reason to have the eDrive on the internal because usually the internal has a problem that needs to be addressed with an external tool, So, how large should the partitions be for a SuperDuper back up (I have a 500 gig hard drive), Time machine and TechToolPro edrive? You need 500 for the SuperDuper back up. And the eDrive partition will be as small as Disk Utility will allow you to make. I would put it on a USB thumb drive. I am also wondering if I should add a 4th partition and leave it blank for future use. I would leave all the space I have left for Time Machine, it can be a real hog:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Is there a way to get a better ProKit Private Framework for 10.6.8?
On Sep 18, 2012, at 5:44 AM, John David Mings wrote: Hi all, I had trouble with SL not saving my Mail Password and on the SL forum at Apple.com I found a discussion about it and a solution-an update that I had probably refused because I was busy and didn't check to see what Apple wanted, usually its just another iTunes,which I don't want because I don't need to sync anything or anybody. Ok. So you have or have not applied updates? 90% of the time OS X has issues saving passwords it's because of corrupted keychains. Run Keychain access and repair the login keychain. Worst case, delete the login keychain and let OS X create a new one the next time you have a password to save (be sure to note all your saved passwords, if necessary. Now my Apple Pro app [Logic Pro 9] won't save settings,I have asked at all other forums to no avail,does anyone here know of a way to get 10.6.8 to run Apples Pro apps as they should run? Won't save settings as in it's not saving it's prefs? Or it's not saving work files or config files? I tried to install ProKit 7 but kept getting the message that this machine does not need it because there is a newer version already installed, I looked and it is ProKit 5.1 which I assume won't allow its self to be installed because Apple wants me to buy a new Mac everytime a new OS comes out. When in a hole, stop digging. The VERY first thing to do in a case like this is boot in safe mode and see if the problem persists. (hold the shift key down when booting) A lot of the time this will fix problems because this also rebuilds a number of caches that OSX uses. If this doesn't work, log in as a different user and see if the problem persists. If you don't have another user account on this system, go create one, and use it only for testing purposes. If the problem persists when run as the other user, then it's a system or software issue, if it doesn't, it's something in your user prefs. If it's a system or software problem, try re-installing the Logic software or re-applying the 10.6.8 Combo update. If the problem only occurs with your user account, get rid of all traces of the program in your user library directory. (the one in your Home directory); typically this is in the Preferences folder and sometimes the Application Support folder. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac 20 Intel Performance Problems
Update: Got a new 7200 RPM hard disk installed, and put Lion on it. Now it's been working like a charm for 4 days straight! :D -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Extending a network
On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:09 PM, William Spencer wrote: Hi there: A friend has Verizon DSL (because FiOS isn’t available within the city limits, I don’t know why), and the modem, or whatever its equivalent is for DSL, generates the wireless network in his house. He wants to extend that network so the rest of the house gets better signal strength, but there’s an exterior brick wall between where Verizon’s device is (in a newer addition to the house) and where the rest of the house is. I believe it will be possible to place the new device in such a way that it can pick up the current signal through a doorway, but I’m not 100% certain of that. So: will any wireless router do the trick, or should he be looking at some specific features in the extender? And are there any configuration points to bear in mind? Well any old wifi router will do, but given your friends geometry, I wonder if there's a way to run an ethernet cable over to the old section of the house? DSL In -Existing Wifi===ethernetNew Wifi It's a wee bit more complicated since you need to configure the second Wifi as a network extender, but that is pretty easy with most any model. Besides, if you're extending it via WiFi it'll also need special configuration anyway. Has your friend considered a simpler solution, like putting on an extended range antenna, or putting the DSL router in a more central location, up near the ceiling? See: http://www.labnol.org/internet/extend-wifi-wireless-network-range/13534/ -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac 20 Intel Performance Problems
You need to archive and install OS X again. I would also recommend upgrading to at least Snow Leopard. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac 20 Intel Performance Problems
One thing worth trying is a RAM test, my Dual 1.8 GHz G5 felt overly slow (felt like Leopard on a 400 MHz G4-I did that once), and the cause was I had a failed ram module. I'm not sure of a tool for Mac, I just stuck the ram into a PC and ran Memtest86. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac 20 Intel Performance Problems
On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Christopher Satterfield wrote: One thing worth trying is a RAM test, my Dual 1.8 GHz G5 felt overly slow (felt like Leopard on a 400 MHz G4-I did that once), and the cause was I had a failed ram module. I'm not sure of a tool for Mac, I just stuck the ram into a PC and ran Memtest86. Uhh, that would beMemtest :-) http://www.command-tab.com/2008/01/11/how-to-test-ram-under-mac-os-x/ Applejack will install (you have to select it via Options at install time) Memtext and if you use the topsekrit 'X' command (it's only mentioned in the readme and who ever reads readmes? :-) on running Applejack you'll get an option to test the memory. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac 20 Intel Performance Problems
Danny, You should obtain a copy of Onyx and run the the option that looks like a Hammer. This application cleans up almost all problems that are OS related. Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl On Friday, September 7, 2012 7:57:17 PM UTC-7, DannyDunn wrote: Hi there, On and off, our main iMac has been working extremely slowly. It will take an eternity to start up into Mac OS X, then after logon it MAY or may not work fine. However, most of the time on logon, and nearly all of the time after a good working half hour of light use (Internet, Mail, Finder, etc.), the computer will start operating at a CRAWL. By this I mean constant beachball spinning, no response in either your active program, or the dock, or the menus. The apple menu does not open when clicked. There are only two things to do when this situation arises - wait until the computer responds again, which can be anywhere from 4 minutes to many hours (not kidding!) or force power off the computer. Then you have to wait and wait and wait for the long startup time, and hope that you can finish what you need to do before something acts up again and the system is frozen. The system has become so unusable, I have set up a ten year old Windows XP computer for use, and it works much faster and properly compared to the iMac. So obviously something is wrong here. I can trigger a less extreme version of this by opening the Spotlight icon on the menu bar, after clicking the icon, the computer will beachball, all open apps and the dock will not respond, but this only lasts about 2 or 3 minutes, after which you can search or exit out, and it continues working. Many times I have thoughtlessly entered a search, thinking it would be faster than manually browsing for it on the disk, then in dismay see my system freeze up. The system is an iMac Core 2 Duo Penryn (April 2008), with 3 GB of RAM installed, a 320 GB Apple hard disk that came with the system, and OS X 10.5.8 with all the latest updates. I have used disk utility on a OS X DVD to do a full check of the disk system for errors, and it came back clean. I ran AppleJack with all of the repairs, but that didn't make a difference. I do think the problem is storage related, because I ran the startup in verbose mode, and I kept seeing messages about I/ O delay errors flashing by on the screen. However, I don't know how to properly troubleshoot this or narrow it down. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks all, Dan -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac 20 Intel Performance Problems
Doesn't the Mac test the ram every time it starts up? That's why it takes so long to start up. There were even small programs to eliminate this for those who wanted a quicker startup. On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Christopher Satterfield wrote: One thing worth trying is a RAM test, my Dual 1.8 GHz G5 felt overly slow (felt like Leopard on a 400 MHz G4-I did that once), and the cause was I had a failed ram module. I'm not sure of a tool for Mac, I just stuck the ram into a PC and ran Memtest86. Uhh, that would beMemtest :-) http://www.command-tab.com/2008/01/11/how-to-test-ram-under-mac-os- x/ Applejack will install (you have to select it via Options at install time) Memtext and if you use the topsekrit 'X' command (it's only mentioned in the readme and who ever reads readmes? :-) on running Applejack you'll get an option to test the memory. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac 20 Intel Performance Problems
On Sep 10, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Michael J. Amato wrote: Doesn't the Mac test the ram every time it starts up? That's why it takes so long to start up. There were even small programs to eliminate this for those who wanted a quicker startup. Yes and no. It is a ram test, but it's not nearly thorough enough to test marginally bad RAM, the kind that gives you fits. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Needed - Head phone jack for iMac G3 slot loader
Hey Doug, Yeah, I have 3 of these, but they are still in the Imacs. I can remove one I guess, but as the computers won't boot for a variety of reasons, I am unable to tell if they are working. Do u want me to remove one and (Mail?) it to you? Dave Sheppard On 2012-08-31, at 9:50 PM, D. Fabel wrote: I'm in need of the little headphone jack board installed inside the iMac G3 (slot loader). It is the board on the front of the iMac into which the headphones plug. It is connected to the computer via an 8 pin connector. Looks exactly like the one in this link: http://www.welovemacs.com/8201123ar.html Does anyone have one to spare? Thanks, Doug Fabel Portland, OR 97225 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Needed - Head phone jack for iMac G3 slot loader
Dave, If you're sure you don't want to salvage them, I'd sure appreciate it. I'd imagine the sound board work just fine, so I'm not worried about testing it. The one I have doesn't work because the iMac was dropped on it's face and this little sound board seemed to take the brunt of the fall. When the computer was picked up, the sound board was loose and rattling around in the case. Upon removal, I found the board cracked in half. I'm guessing when the iMac fell that since the headphone jacks protrude a little bit proud of the face of the computer it cracked. Anyways, it appears that the iMac now thinks headphones are always plugged in as I can't get any sound out of the speakers. Were you planning on scrapping these? If so, I might be interested in other parts/pieces too??? Especially if any of them were the DVD model. We're headed out for a while. Probably won't be back by email for a day or so, so no rush. Thanks again, Doug On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Dave Sheppard wrote: Hey Doug, Yeah, I have 3 of these, but they are still in the Imacs. I can remove one I guess, but as the computers won't boot for a variety of reasons, I am unable to tell if they are working. Do u want me to remove one and (Mail?) it to you? Dave Sheppard On 2012-08-31, at 9:50 PM, D. Fabel wrote: I'm in need of the little headphone jack board installed inside the iMac G3 (slot loader). It is the board on the front of the iMac into which the headphones plug. It is connected to the computer via an 8 pin connector. Looks exactly like the one in this link: http://www.welovemacs.com/8201123ar.html Does anyone have one to spare? Thanks, Doug Fabel Portland, OR 97225 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Crash when I opened Mail
Just curious, did it crash once or does it crash every time you open it? -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Crash when I opened Mail
At 7:52 PM -0700 9/1/12, druidygal wrote: Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: 0x, 0x Crashed Thread: 3 Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.default-priority Application Specific Information: -[MailAddressManager fetchImageForAddress:] -[MessageContentController _fetchContentsForMessage:fromStore:withViewingState:] *** error for object 0x10c351998: incorrect checksum for freed object - object was probably modified after being freed. Is there anything glaring that I should be aware of, or do something for? Run a Verify Disk pass on your boot volume, using Disk Utilty. If it finds any errors, fix 'em. Then try Mail again... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Crash when I opened Mail
It crashed once, and then I was able to open and use Mail without another crash tonight. On Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:53:52 PM UTC-4, Clone Lover wrote: Just curious, did it crash once or does it crash every time you open it? -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Get Info for lots of files?
At 6:56 AM -0400 8/30/12, William Spencer wrote: Hi there: I have a boatload of PDFs that all show the .pdf extension. Is there a way to hide the extension on all of them at once instead of getting info for them one by one (which is pretty tedious)? As always, my thanks in advance! In Finder's preferences, you can set it to hide the extensions. But that's a Bad Idea... Consider - what's the difference between these two files: Report-1.pdf Report-1.app If you've hidden the extensions, or removed them, then you may not be able to tell which file is the pdf and which is the application, especially if the icon has been pasted. That is EXACTLY how trojans work!!... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Re: cloned iMac Indigo won't boot
Just have to chime in from the sidelines. As one who owns/uses G3 and G4 iMacs and iBooks--all now running OSX10.4.11 with max RAM, I have to give a round of applause to Jim's email. Concise, accurate; very helpful. Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 16, 2012, at 8:34 PM, rebtevye wipeda...@gmail.com wrote: USE CASE: Supporting a grade school Mac lab and am trying to make a consistent load for all of the iMacs (G3, Indigo, 500MB RAM), with OS 10.4 and OS 9.2.1 PROCESS: I followed the recommendations in How to Clone Mac OS X to a New Hard Drive, using Carbon Copy Cloner instead of SuperDuper. To simplify this operation, I connected the target iMac to the source machine using a firewire cable, and starting it in [T]arget disk mode. RESULT: The transfer went very well, however, when I disconnected the two machines and tried to boot the target iMac, the gray OSX startup screen came up briefly, then a black square ~2 x 3 popped up on the screen and the computer shut down. When this has happened in the past, I started up from a OSX install disk and re-installed the OS. This time, I tried booting in Safe Mode (hold Shift after chime, and release at gray apple), and the computer booted up, starting me at a user selection/login screen. When in Safe Mode, I ran Disk Utility and confirmed permissions were OK. I also reset PRAM on the next restart. Still, the computer either gave the black warning screen, or just went dark and shut off. Any other suggestions? I would rather not re-install from scratch on every computer, plus I like the advantage of having the same 'student' and 'admin' user accounts on every iMac in the lab. What you are experiencing is a kernel panic. In G3 iMacs on which OS X has been loaded, this usually means bad or incompatible RAM. To successfully run OS X on a G3 iMac, both sticks must be the same speed, have the same latency and preferably be made by the same manufacturer. IOW, they should be identical in all performance characteristics, except capacity, ie they can be of different sizes (64 MB, 128 MB, etc.) I have successfully done exactly what you are attempting to do, and also in a grade school Mac lab. Since OS X 10.4 is very picky about RAM, and does all sorts of strange things when it doesn't like the RAM, the first thing I do with a G3 iMac is to put it on its side and open the RAM door. Then I boot it from the Apple Hardware Test disk. If the iMac chimes and boots with the installed RAM, that's a good sign. If it beeps or refuses to chime and boot, I substitute RAM until it does chime and boot. If the iMac chimed and booted, I then check to see if the specs of the two sticks are identical. Both must be matched, with the same latency (CL: 2.5 etc.), and with the same PC100 or PC 133 numbers. The amount of RAM on each stick can vary, but the specs must be identical *in that particular iMac*. Mismatched latency can really play havoc with a G3 iMac running OS X, as can mismatching PC 100 with PC 133. Data moves at different speeds because of the mismatch and sooner or later OS X cries Help! and that's the kernel panic screen you see. (When I've got a large number of iMacs, I usually put all the available RAM -- 512 MB is optimal -- into a big pile and laboriously test pairs of sticks using just one iMac. As I identify specification-matching pairs, I mark them AHT OK and put them in an iMac. It's a lot of work, but it's the only way to ensure the iMac will run OK with OS X 10.4. OS X 10.3 and earlier versions were much more forgiving of mismatched RAM, but not good ole Tiger. If, after sorting out the RAM you still have problems, check to make sure the iMac slot-loader's firmware has been updated to (IIRC) 4.19f1 or something like that. I still find G3 iMacs that have never had their firmware upgraded to the latest. Since Apple's Software Update stopped being available to G3 iMacs online this year, you may have to dig into apple.com's support website a bit to find and download the firmware updater. Have fun! Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists
Re: annoying popup
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Ben Kernan bkpro...@yahoo.com wrote: My 24 2.8ghz w/4gigs ram iMac running 10.5.8, which I purchased from Smalldog in November 2011, is doing something really annoying! The window that comes up when I turn the machine off is continually popping up, asking am I sure I want to shut my computer down now... When I am in the middle of doing something. When I hit cancel, it pops up again at rapid decreasing intervals till it stays on thru 4 or 5 clicks of the cancel button, then it will stay off several minutes till it starts the same irritating cycle over again. This sometimes happens very frequently, but sometimes will not happen for a couple of days. It also makes noise, quite bothersome when listening to music or playing a movie. I posted this on the LEM imac list back in march when it first started happening, the only response got was that might have a stuck on-off switch... personally think it may be software related since it did not manifest itself untill i found out that my wife had been snooping on my computer to see if there was any porn on it... There wasn't. My wife is NOT very computer literate, even though she has been using one since we got a PM 6500 years ago. Later found out she had fooled around with iChat (which I don't use), iTunes ( which like everyone else I DO use). Any suggestions, or am I going to have to back up, wipe reformat then re-install??? I do not have install disks. Ben Kernan: 24I-Mac 4/2.8/700, graphite g-4 1gig/400/52, iPad 2/64/wifi, iPhone 4gs/64 - Dedicated Mac user since 1990 -- Is something triggering an apple script? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: KeyViewer Error
On Aug 22, 2012, at 10:24 AM, fa...@gottick.com wrote: OSX.6.8 on a 2,4 Ghz Intel I'm trying to use KeyViewer and gets this message : Can not find item System:Library:Components:KeyboardViewer.component:Contents:SharedSupport:KeyboardViewerServer.app of class sdsk of application Finder. Edit / Ok -- Anyone who can explain (slowly) what this mean? :-D It means that it couldn't find the actual KeyboardViewer program, which is a built-in component of OS X. I would first look to see if there is an icon for KeyboardViewer in the /System/Library/Compnents folder. If it's there right-click, and select 'Show Package Contents' and see if the application package is in the Contents/Shared Support folder. Did you perchance, follow directions like these? http://www.mactipper.com/2008/10/keyboard-viewer.html If so make sure you didn't actually move the KeyboardViewer.app out of the KeyboardViewer.compnent package, that would cause this sort of error. Otherwise you need to re-install it, RE-installing OSX is a surefire way of doing it, although you might be able to use PAcifist to do it from your OS X installer disk. If you do that router immediately re-apply the 10.6.8 combo update, to make sure any updates are applied. It MIGHT be a corrupted application cache, you could try running applejack before re-installing it if the app is where it's supposed to be. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: KeyViewer Error
22 aug 2012 kl. 19.43 skrev Bruce Johnson: On Aug 22, 2012, at 10:24 AM, fa...@gottick.com wrote: OSX.6.8 on a 2,4 Ghz Intel I'm trying to use KeyViewer and gets this message : Can not find item System:Library:Components:KeyboardViewer.component:Contents:SharedSupport:KeyboardViewerServer.app of class sdsk of application Finder. Edit / Ok -- Anyone who can explain (slowly) what this mean? :-D Thanks for your reply. It means that it couldn't find the actual KeyboardViewer program, which is a built-in component of OS X. I would first look to see if there is an icon for KeyboardViewer in the /System/Library/Compnents folder. These is not. All I got is KeyViewer.app in the Aplications folder. If so make sure you didn't actually move the KeyboardViewer.app out of the KeyboardViewer.compnent package, that would cause this sort of error. Can not find anything named KeyboardViewer anything. I guess I have to re-install the thing. Thanks Anders Otherwise you need to re-install it, RE-installing OSX is a surefire way of doing it, although you might be able to use PAcifist to do it from your OS X installer disk. If you do that router immediately re-apply the 10.6.8 combo update, to make sure any updates are applied. It MIGHT be a corrupted application cache, you could try running applejack before re-installing it if the app is where it's supposed to be. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist __ Anders Fager Gottick International www.gottick.com -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: KeyViewer Error
On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Anders Fager / Gottick wrote: It means that it couldn't find the actual KeyboardViewer program, which is a built-in component of OS X. I would first look to see if there is an icon for KeyboardViewer in the /System/Library/Compnents folder. These is not. All I got is KeyViewer.app in the Aplications folder. If so make sure you didn't actually move the KeyboardViewer.app out of the KeyboardViewer.compnent package, that would cause this sort of error. Can not find anything named KeyboardViewer anything. I guess I have to re-install the thing. Maybe. I have a system running the same OS Version, and I don't have either an application in the Applications folder or that component, but it does pop up when I select Show Keyboard Viewer from the menu bar icon, once I enabled it. Using Activity monitor I found that the application package is actually here: /System/Library/Input Methods/KeyboardViewer.app I suspect the references to the /System/Library/Components location may be from an older version of the OS? It's in /System/Library/Input methods in 10.7 as well, and /System/Library/Components doesn't have the KeyboardViewer.component bundle, either. Since your Finder is looking someplace else I suspect it's confused. Before you go to the hassle of re-installing your OS or the application, create a new user on your Mac and see if that user CAN use the KeyboardViewer. If so the problem lies somewhere in your user preferences and re-installing the OS will do no good. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: KeyViewer Error
On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Anders Fager / Gottick wrote: It means that it couldn't find the actual KeyboardViewer program, which is a built-in component of OS X. I would first look to see if there is an icon for KeyboardViewer in the /System/Library/Compnents folder. These is not. All I got is KeyViewer.app in the Aplications folder. A sudden thought...if this application has a generic app icon, maybe it IS the one from /System/Library/InputMethods and that's why the Finder cannot find it, and the error you're getting form the finder is not as meaningful as I thought... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: cloned iMac Indigo won't boot
On Aug 16, 2012, at 8:34 PM, rebtevye wrote: USE CASE: Supporting a grade school Mac lab and am trying to make a consistent load for all of the iMacs (G3, Indigo, 500MB RAM), with OS 10.4 and OS 9.2.1 PROCESS: I followed the recommendations in How to Clone Mac OS X to a New Hard Drive, using Carbon Copy Cloner instead of SuperDuper. To simplify this operation, I connected the target iMac to the source machine using a firewire cable, and starting it in [T]arget disk mode. RESULT: The transfer went very well, however, when I disconnected the two machines and tried to boot the target iMac, the gray OSX startup screen came up briefly, then a black square ~2 x 3 popped up on the screen and the computer shut down. That is known as a kernel panic. The core of the operating system, the kernel, knows something is very wrong but can't do anything about it. When this has happened in the past, I started up from a OSX install disk and re-installed the OS. This time, I tried booting in Safe Mode (hold Shift after chime, and release at gray apple), and the computer booted up, starting me at a user selection/login screen. When in Safe Mode, I ran Disk Utility and confirmed permissions were OK. I also reset PRAM on the next restart. This is definitely NOT a permissions issue. Try Disk Verify, THAT might find a related problem. Still, the computer either gave the black warning screen, or just went dark and shut off. Any other suggestions? I would rather not re-install from scratch on every computer, plus I like the advantage of having the same 'student' and 'admin' user accounts on every iMac in the lab. Have you tried cloning this system to another computer? Typically this is due to bad memory. A simple test, if it has two DIMMs is to swap them. It won't fix the problem but it should result in a different symptom. If it does then one (or both) are bad. I worked in a grade school and used CCC to install the OS several times on about 250 computers. I perhaps had a problem a handful of times, all related to the specific computer and not to the cloning process. I may have even had a kernel panic (KP) but I can't recall it happening. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: cloned iMac Indigo won't boot
On Aug 16, 2012, at 8:34 PM, rebtevye wipeda...@gmail.com wrote: USE CASE: Supporting a grade school Mac lab and am trying to make a consistent load for all of the iMacs (G3, Indigo, 500MB RAM), with OS 10.4 and OS 9.2.1 PROCESS: I followed the recommendations in How to Clone Mac OS X to a New Hard Drive, using Carbon Copy Cloner instead of SuperDuper. To simplify this operation, I connected the target iMac to the source machine using a firewire cable, and starting it in [T]arget disk mode. RESULT: The transfer went very well, however, when I disconnected the two machines and tried to boot the target iMac, the gray OSX startup screen came up briefly, then a black square ~2 x 3 popped up on the screen and the computer shut down. When this has happened in the past, I started up from a OSX install disk and re-installed the OS. This time, I tried booting in Safe Mode (hold Shift after chime, and release at gray apple), and the computer booted up, starting me at a user selection/login screen. When in Safe Mode, I ran Disk Utility and confirmed permissions were OK. I also reset PRAM on the next restart. Still, the computer either gave the black warning screen, or just went dark and shut off. Any other suggestions? I would rather not re-install from scratch on every computer, plus I like the advantage of having the same 'student' and 'admin' user accounts on every iMac in the lab. What you are experiencing is a kernel panic. In G3 iMacs on which OS X has been loaded, this usually means bad or incompatible RAM. To successfully run OS X on a G3 iMac, both sticks must be the same speed, have the same latency and preferably be made by the same manufacturer. IOW, they should be identical in all performance characteristics, except capacity, i.e. they can be of different sizes (64 MB, 128 MB, etc.) I have successfully done exactly what you are attempting to do, and also in a grade school Mac lab. Since OS X 10.4 is very picky about RAM, and does all sorts of strange things when it doesn't like the RAM, the first thing I do with a G3 iMac is to put it on its side and open the RAM door. Then I boot it from the Apple Hardware Test disk. If the iMac chimes and boots with the installed RAM, that's a good sign. If it beeps or refuses to chime and boot, I substitute RAM until it does chime and boot. If the iMac chimed and booted, I then check to see if the specs of the two sticks are identical. Both must be matched, with the same latency (CL: 2.5 etc.), and with the same PC100 or PC 133 numbers. The amount of RAM on each stick can vary, but the specs must be identical *in that particular iMac*. Mismatched latency can really play havoc with a G3 iMac running OS X, as can mismatching PC 100 with PC 133. Data moves at different speeds because of the mismatch and sooner or later OS X cries Help! and that's the kernel panic screen you see. (When I've got a large number of iMacs, I usually put all the available RAM -- 512 MB is optimal -- into a big pile and laboriously test pairs of sticks using just one iMac. As I identify specification-matching pairs, I mark them AHT OK and put them in an iMac. It's a lot of work, but it's the only way to ensure the iMac will run OK with OS X 10.4. OS X 10.3 and earlier versions were much more forgiving of mismatched RAM, but not good ole Tiger. If, after sorting out the RAM you still have problems, check to make sure the iMac slot-loader's firmware has been updated to (IIRC) 4.19f1 or something like that. I still find G3 iMacs that have never had their firmware upgraded to the latest. Since Apple's Software Update stopped being available to G3 iMacs online this year, you may have to dig into apple.com's support website a bit to find and download the firmware updater. Have fun! Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iTunes 8.2.1 won't connect to radio tuning service
Thanks Bruce. I'm off to find the G3-G5 list now... Doug Portland,OR On Aug 18, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Apple has changed the format of the streamed radio station urls. Check the G3-5 list for a discussion of this and the fix, this was earlier this week under the subject iTunes G3 radio playlist servers? -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: MacBook pro external hard drive
If you are trying to power the Toshiba HD from the USB port you will need to obtain an external USB hub that can power the disk. The MBP doesn't have enough power to run that disk. Cheers Harry (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl On Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:34:05 AM UTC-7, Shields E-mail wrote: Cannot find the toshiba external hard drive in disc utility although I do have the boxes checked in preferences. I tried both USB ports. Works perfectly with old iBook and iMac just not the MBP. I am stumped. -M- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Hardware test error 4SNS/1/40000001:VDOR
I just wanted to update this post. I decided to see if I could get an update for Tech Tool Deluxe, and after I installed that and ran it again, the things that had failed in the previous runs now pass. (Format Check, Directory Scan, and Volume Structure). Yippy! Cat Late 2006 iMac Core 2 Duo OS X 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade
On Jul 15, 2012, at 4:57 AM, Shields E-mail wrote: Thankyou all for responding! Yes the USB ports for the FireWire are 400 on the ibookG4 and 800 on the macbook pro. The Ethernet migration assistant didn't see each other and wireless didn't see each other. I ordered a FireWire cable from amazon with the 400 800 ends so hopefully that will work. I will try to upgrade further, i didnt know it was a possibility. I was mistaken in getting the Toshiba formatted by the MBPro, I told my husband I needed this formatted not by the G4 and he could not format it by the MBpro so he formatted it by desk top iMac 10.5.8 with 2.66 GHz intel core duo as MacOS extended (journaled) GUID partition table. MacBook pro can't see it. Hopefully can transfer via new cables but would like to use this external drive with the MBpro. I still don't know much but am tons more savvy reading this board! -M- Can you see the drive in Disk Utility? Also check finer preferences where is says Show these items on the desktop and be sure to check the boxes labeled Hard disks and External disks Some of the new MBP's have an issue with one of the USB ports producing enough bus power for some external hard drives to show up, Hitachi is one of them. Switch ports and also some of the drives come with a USB power connector on the cable. I can't think of any reason the MBP can't mount the drive no matter the format. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
did you or someone go over your cap on dsl just a thought and is it wireless if so check the speed in the router/setup On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote: Hello: Do we blame low bandwidth DSL or the Mac? A member of our Mac user group says her machine is getting slower to websites and has YouTube videos stopping and restarting all the time. Apparently, there are no other performance problems. This is an iMac Core 2 Duo 2.4 20-Inch (Early 2008) with 1 GB RAM running OS X 10.5.8 Leopard. Apple Software Updates have been applied. Internet access is via Verizon DSL. Speed test shows: Last Result: Download Speed: 1017 kbps (127.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 375 kbps (46.9 KB/sec transfer rate) Thanks, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- Those who risk nothing—do nothing, achieve nothing, become nothing! --- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade
On Jul 14, 2012, at 4:38 AM, Shields E-mail wrote: Recently purchased new Mac book pro. Want to transfer files from old iBook G4 running Mac OSX. 10.4.11, 1.07GHz power PC G4,1.25 GB DDR SDRAM but migration assistant tells me the operating system on the iBook needs to be upgraded however it is the latest system available for this hardware, I believe. There were altogether four different models of iBook G4 with 1.0-GHz processors: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/ibook/index-ibook.html All four could run Mac OS up to 10.5.8. Also I have a Toshiba terabyte external hard drive that every other Mac in the house can see but not the new MacBook pro. I have reformatted it by the MacBook pro but still unable to get it to work. Since you managed to reformat the Toshiba hard drive by the MacBook Pro, it must have been seen by its Disk Utility. Do it again, but this time reformat to Mac OS Extended (Journaled) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
At 2:33 PM -0700 7/12/2012, Al Poulin wrote: A member of our Mac user group says her machine is getting slower to websites and has YouTube videos stopping and restarting all the time. Apparently, there are no other performance problems. iMac Core 2 Duo 2.4 20-Inch (Early 2008) with 1 GB RAM OS X 10.5.8 Leopard and what browser is involved? Does the problem occur with other browsers? Has she done the basics -- cleared caches, cookies, etc? Does the machine have any other speed issues not involving the web? Internet access is via Verizon DSL. Speed test shows: Last Result: Download Speed: 1017 kbps (127.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 375 kbps (46.9 KB/sec transfer rate) and later: Yeah, kind of slow, I know. The Verizon DSL website shows their basic package at Verizon High Speed Internet .5 to 1 Mbps. If that's the service to which they've subscribed, then the speed test is good. wrt YouTube make sure you're not trying to view the higher definition versions of the videos. At 1 Mb, one should expect those to be glitchy. Maybe need to boost both the Internet bandwidth and the RAM?? Perhaps. But eliminate cache issues and such first. Run Activity Monitor, to monitor the memory usage, etc. While 1 GB is pretty much a minimum for Leopard, it should be enough to do surfing and such. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
On Jul 14, 11:07 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 2:33 PM -0700 7/12/2012, Al Poulin wrote: and what browser is involved? Does the problem occur with other browsers? This is using Safari, updated just a few days ago. I've suggested trying Chrome, which made my teenage granddaughter very happy about a year ago. Has she done the basics -- cleared caches, cookies, etc? I've mentioned caches, History, and Activity Monitor, but will have cookies on the list when I copy this thread to her. Does the machine have any other speed issues not involving the web? Apparently nothing to make her unhappy. wrt YouTube make sure you're not trying to view the higher definition versions of the videos. At 1 Mb, one should expect those to be glitchy. Thanks, I'm passing this on to her. So the 1 MB RAM is rather minimum for some downstreaming. And thanks, Judith for your comments about the add-ons. I doubt they apply, but I'll confirm. Krys - She is using Internet, and the Verizon DSL for this low bandwidth version does not seem to have a cap. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
At 8:57 AM -0700 7/14/2012, Al Poulin wrote: wrt YouTube make sure you're not trying to view the higher definition versions of the videos. At 1 Mb, one should expect those to be glitchy. Thanks, I'm passing this on to her. So the 1 MB RAM is rather minimum for some downstreaming. Do not confuse 1 Mb -- 1 megabit per second -- DSL speed, with the 1 GB RAM in her iMac. 1 GB RAM is *certainly* enough to play video. Few apps require more than 40 to 80 MB RAM to play a video, including buffers. Safari bumps its memory usage by only about 30 MB when playing a video on YouTube. The issue of 1 GB RAM being a minimum is wrt to the system as a whole - all the processes Leopard runs, plus Dashboard, Spotlight, and the user apps that all tend to be piggy - it adds up. But again, a GIGABYTE of memory is a LOT -- that amount of memory DOES NOT restrict video playing IN ANY WAY. The slow DSL speed can be quite restrictive, however. For example, when I play a YouTube video in Safari, it spikes to up around 3 Mbps as the buffers initially load (I have 15 Mbps service), then levels out to around 700 Mbps for a while, then spikes back to 1.5 to 2 Mbps as it rebuffers. If you view the network throughput using Activity Monitor, or even iStat Menus, while playing such videos, she should get a better idea if that's the bottleneck. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
At 1:09 PM -0400 7/14/2012, Dan wrote: levels out to around 700 Mbps for a while, then spikes back to 1.5 to 2 Mbps as it rebuffers. 700 Kbps. :) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Hardware test error 4SNS/1/40000001:VDOR
At 9:04 PM -0700 7/11/2012, druidygal wrote: It's me again. The gal with the kernel panic a couple of weeks ago. I took out the bad RAM that I had recently put in the machine, and it helped stabilize things (no crashes or kernel panics). I ran Applejack as per Bruce and Dan's instructions. But Tech Tool Deluxe is still showing the same failures. (Format Check, Directory Scan, and Volume Structure). Quit all apps. Run Disk Utility. Do a Verify Disk pass on each disk volume. Does it report any errors? It has been slow loading pages, and sometimes it won't load a page, so I have to refresh it once or twice to get it to load (this would be web pages like Amazon or Facebook mostly). I also get the spinny beach ball quite often. How much free space is available on your HD? Are you having any difficulties with the machine with other apps - things NOT involving the 'net? What browser are you using? Have you tried clearing its caches and cookies? When it has problems loading a page, is it just pages from that one site or do all sites fail? ...Quite often, having to refresh pages to get all the elements to load, is an indication of a network or site problem. This evening I ran the Apple Hardware Test, and in the first pass it detected the error, so I ran the extended test, and it came up with the same error. 4SNS/1/4001:VDOR Could just be a power manager issue. But at this point, you're talking about three errors; can't tell if one is caused by the other or - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Hardware test error 4SNS/1/40000001:VDOR
Hi Dan, Okay, I ran Disk Utility, selected mac HD and had it Verify, and it found no errors. (appears to be OK). Cool! Of the 160 G on my hard drive, I have 132.76 G of free space. I use Safari for browsing, and I cleared caches and cookies a few weeks ago. I do get the spinny beach balls when opening iTunes app. I don't have to refresh every single webpage I go to, no. So maybe it's just those aforementioned websites then. I also ditched the Ad Block extension today, since I read in another post that that can cause big lags in pages loading. Well, maybe I'm worrying over nothing. I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something important or that there isn't something else I should do. Cat On Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:04:50 AM UTC-4, druidygal wrote: Hello All, It's me again. The gal with the kernel panic a couple of weeks ago. I took out the bad RAM that I had recently put in the machine, and it helped stabilize things (no crashes or kernel panics). I ran Applejack as per Bruce and Dan's instructions. But Tech Tool Deluxe is still showing the same failures. (Format Check, Directory Scan, and Volume Structure). It has been slow loading pages, and sometimes it won't load a page, so I have to refresh it once or twice to get it to load (this would be web pages like Amazon or Facebook mostly). I also get the spinny beach ball quite often. I mention this in case it's related to the hardware test issue. This evening I ran the Apple Hardware Test, and in the first pass it detected the error, so I ran the extended test, and it came up with the same error. 4SNS/1/4001:VDOR So I looked that up online and it sounds like a logic board issue? Does this mean it's on its way out? What else should I do? It sounds like the cost of replacing it would be nearly the price of a new computer. :( Drat! Thanks, Cat Late 2006 iMac Core 2 Duo OS X 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Hardware test error 4SNS/1/40000001:VDOR
At 5:52 PM -0700 7/14/2012, druidygal wrote: Okay, I ran Disk Utility, selected mac HD and had it Verify, and it found no errors. (appears to be OK). Cool! Good. Of the 160 G on my hard drive, I have 132.76 G of free space. Good. I use Safari for browsing, and I cleared caches and cookies a few weeks ago. Do it again. Safari tends to get slower and slower as its cache grows. Ditto for its cookie and web site icon databases. Another thing to try is to enable the Develop menu in Safari (via Safari's Preferences). Therein are items to quickly enable/disable various features. I've found that sites are often linking to the likes of facebook -- which causes their pages to take forever to load. If you turn off JavaScript then visit those pages, *bam* they load at warp speed! I do get the spinny beach balls when opening iTunes app. Yea, that's normal. iTunes does a lot of farking around when it launches. It checks the integrity of its data on your HD, then it talks to Apple quite a bit. It can take quite a long time for the SPOD to clear if your iTunes library is large. I don't have to refresh every single webpage I go to, no. So maybe it's just those aforementioned websites then. Try to note which sites give the most pain. I also ditched the Ad Block extension today, since I read in another post that that can cause big lags in pages loading. Yea, but it might just be some of its settings too. ...In the mean time, to get back to the errors from TT and AHT, it might be a good idea to update your backups, just in case. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
On 12 Jul 2012, at 22:33, Al Poulin wrote: Download Speed: 1017 kbps (127.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 375 kbps (46.9 KB/sec transfer rate) Al These are not dsl speeds. They are more akin to isdn rates. I take it you were previously able to watch Youtube videos without buffering which would suggest to me that your dsl speed has slipped. John -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:33:39 PM UTC-7, Al Poulin wrote: Do we blame low bandwidth DSL or the Mac? A member of our Mac user group says her machine is getting slower to websites and has YouTube videos stopping and restarting all the time. Apparently, there are no other performance problems. I would venture: neither. I've found that when things slow up when they were previously fine, then it's the addition of AdBlock Plus. Sometimes ClickToFlash and Block PopUps will set the beach ball spinning where it hadn't been before. Or maybe another newly added app. Or did she set her videos to run at higher/highest resolution? That'll bollox it up as well. Also, throw more RAM into it. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
On Jul 12, 11:30 pm, Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net wrote: On 7/12/12 4:33 PM, Al Poulin wrote: This is an iMac Core 2 Duo 2.4 20-Inch (Early 2008) with 1 GB RAM running OS X 10.5.8 Leopard. snip=== 1 Gig ram for OS X.5 ? How long has she had X.5 on it? This machine came with OS X 10.5.x on it. Leopard had just come out some months before, and Apple finally went to 2 Gig RAM in the next year's model iMac. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
On Jul 13, 3:01 am, John Hobbs jfh...@googlemail.com wrote: On 12 Jul 2012, at 22:33, Al Poulin wrote: Download Speed: 1017 kbps (127.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 375 kbps (46.9 KB/sec transfer rate) Al These are not dsl speeds. They are more akin to isdn rates. I take it you were previously able to watch Youtube videos without buffering which would suggest to me that your dsl speed has slipped. John Yeah, kind of slow, I know. The Verizon DSL website shows their basic package at Verizon High Speed Internet .5 to 1 Mbps. Maybe need to boost both the Internet bandwidth and the RAM?? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: can'tload page on Shutterfly
Hi Jane, In most cases Safari works great, you might give it a shot. There are the rare times that a page is looking for Internet Explorer or Firefox. The tech you spoke with must have either not known much about Mac or may have not known that you were using Mac. *Internet Explorer has not been available for Mac in years. I would suggest downloading Google Chrome and trying Shutterfly there: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I would caution you to not set or use Firefox as default browser for everyday use on Mac. My experience with Firefox on Mac has been horrible. Thus, I keep Firefox around only for those times when absolutely nessecary to use it. Google Chrome is much better. Although, I still use Safari as my default browser as it just plain works. Best Regards, - Patrick Berg Skyvalley Higher Praise: http://skyvalleyhigherpraise.co.cc/ http://www.myspace.com/skyvalleyhigherpraise Don't be afraid, for I am with you; don't be distressed, for I am your God. I give you strength, I give you help, I support you with my victorious right hand. Isaiah 41:10 On Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:31:17 AM UTC-7, Jane (Portland, OR) wrote: Stats: Intel iMac;10.6.9; latest Firefox; Add-on QuickJava 1.7.9; Flash Player Plug in 11.3.300.257 I am trying to make a free photo book on Shutterfly. These are the steps that I have done: signed in selected photo book 8x8 Family Portraits Select this style And then this page opens: http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=c2d57ccf877dd041c7e45aad1e0cdff4 The page does not load. I keep getting Just a moment. I cleared the cache and Cookies. Restarted Firefox. Restarted the iMac. Still doesn't load. I was on the phone with Shutterfly Customer Service for an hour and did the same steps with him. Page still doesn't load! His suggestion was to download Internet Explorer! Safari has the same problem page doesn't load! Does anyone have any suggestions on how to resolve this? I can't believe Mac users will be shut out of Shutterfly!! Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: can'tload page on Shutterfly
Jane, The link that you posted is the login page. Try using Safari and your get through. Cheers Harry (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl On Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:31:17 AM UTC-7, Jane (Portland, OR) wrote: Stats: Intel iMac;10.6.9; latest Firefox; Add-on QuickJava 1.7.9; Flash Player Plug in 11.3.300.257 I am trying to make a free photo book on Shutterfly. These are the steps that I have done: signed in selected photo book 8x8 Family Portraits Select this style And then this page opens: http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=c2d57ccf877dd041c7e45aad1e0cdff4 The page does not load. I keep getting Just a moment. I cleared the cache and Cookies. Restarted Firefox. Restarted the iMac. Still doesn't load. I was on the phone with Shutterfly Customer Service for an hour and did the same steps with him. Page still doesn't load! His suggestion was to download Internet Explorer! Safari has the same problem page doesn't load! Does anyone have any suggestions on how to resolve this? I can't believe Mac users will be shut out of Shutterfly!! Jane Jane, The page opens fine for me using firefox 13.0.1. It is a sign up page for Shutterfly. Roger -- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have Thomas Jefferson -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: can'tload page on Shutterfly
Jane, The link that you posted is the login page. Try using Safari and your get through. Cheers Harry (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl On Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:31:17 AM UTC-7, Jane (Portland, OR) wrote: Stats: Intel iMac;10.6.9; latest Firefox; Add-on QuickJava 1.7.9; Flash Player Plug in 11.3.300.257 I am trying to make a free photo book on Shutterfly. These are the steps that I have done: signed in selected photo book 8x8 Family Portraits Select this style And then this page opens: http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=c2d57ccf877dd041c7e45aad1e0cdff4 The page does not load. I keep getting Just a moment. I cleared the cache and Cookies. Restarted Firefox. Restarted the iMac. Still doesn't load. I was on the phone with Shutterfly Customer Service for an hour and did the same steps with him. Page still doesn't load! His suggestion was to download Internet Explorer! Safari has the same problem page doesn't load! Does anyone have any suggestions on how to resolve this? I can't believe Mac users will be shut out of Shutterfly!! Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac 233 MHz bondi blue (rev. A) RAM issue
Hey Bertil, Me too! I have a 333 Mhz G3 Imac with only 192 mb ram. I'd love to upgrade to 512. Where did u get ur memory ? How did you determine that your Mac would accept the increased ram, trial error? I have run Pagemaker soft ware since first using Mac's, way back in 1989 and have files I still need from way back then. I upgraded the PM to verson 7 and now they don't make it any more and the files won't convert to Indesign so I can run them on my newest Imac running Snow Leopard. I still use the Pagemaker software daily but it is wonky from inadequate memory. Incidentally, when my 1998 Imac gave up the ghost, I bought 6 old G3's for parts ($200), and ended up salvaging 2 of 'em; both run Panther well, but more ram is needed for both). Dave Sheppard On 26-Jun-12, at 3:18 AM, Bertil Born wrote: Hi, i've just tried to breathe new life into an iMac 233 MHz ”bondi blue”. I've installed Mac OS X 10.3.9 (including 15 updates from Software Update :-) ) on it, and i've put 512 (256 + 256) MB of RAM into it. It works like a charm, just one minor issue though: according to ”About this computer” it only detects 256 MB of RAM, which is a bummer since i'm trying to install Indesign CS2 on it, which requires 384 MB or more... so I cannot install it. I still have a 32 MB and a 128 MB module from before the upgrade... i've read stuff about putting ”low-profile” SO-DIMM:s into the lower socket of the processor card. I cannot see any major physical difference between the different modules except the amount of memory IC:s on them, but still... if i put the 32 or the 128 MB module into the bottom socket and let the 256 MB module stay put in the top socket, is there any chance of the system detecting them too, so that i'd get 288 or 384 MB of RAM? Any advice is most welcome. Cheers! -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: kernel panic
On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:27 AM, druidygal wrote: Hey there, Mac wizards, I had my first ever kernel panic. I ran TechTool Deluxe after restarting the machine, and 3 things came up as a Fail. My machine specs: September 2006 iMac 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Bus speed 667 MHz 4 GB RAM 160 G hard drive running Snow Leopard, 10.6.8 Most times on those machines reseating the RAM is what it needs. kernel panics are not always a sign of serious trouble. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: can'tload page on Shutterfly
Stats: Intel iMac;10.6.9; latest Firefox; Add-on QuickJava 1.7.9; Flash Player Plug in 11.3.300.257 I am trying to make a free photo book on Shutterfly. These are the steps that I have done: signed in selected photo book 8x8 Family Portraits Select this style And then this page opens: http://www.shutterfly.com/custompath/viewEdit.sfly?fid=c2d57ccf877dd041c7e45aad1e0cdff4 The page does not load. I keep getting Just a moment. I cleared the cache and Cookies. Restarted Firefox. Restarted the iMac. Still doesn't load. I was on the phone with Shutterfly Customer Service for an hour and did the same steps with him. Page still doesn't load! His suggestion was to download Internet Explorer! Safari has the same problem page doesn't load! Does anyone have any suggestions on how to resolve this? I can't believe Mac users will be shut out of Shutterfly!! Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: kernel panic
Hi again, Couldn't reply to anyone yesterday, as this thing was going crazy with crashes and kernel panics galore. Yeesh! Last night it kept kicking me to a blue screen and freezing there. I did a Repair Permissions, which caused all kinds of mayhem after. (including the blue screen, and several crashes in a row, and another panic). I wasn't able to install Applejack yesterday. I downloaded it and installed it, but then it wasn't there. I'll try again. Wasn't able to copy/paste anything from Console, it just blues out a line and I can't do anything with it. Is there some magic trick to be able to copy/paste the Console log? I pulled the new RAM this morning and put the old back in, which so far is an improvement, though I'm still seeing a lot of error logs in Console, but so far today, no crashes (fingers crossed). Tech Tool showed the same failures when I redid the scan. My next step is to do a clean install of Snow Leopard. Anyway, just wanted to thank you Dan and Fabian for the earlier replies and I wish I could have gotten the panic reports and some of these error reports on here for your perusal. Cat On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:27:56 AM UTC-4, druidygal wrote: Hey there, Mac wizards, I had my first ever kernel panic. I ran TechTool Deluxe after restarting the machine, and 3 things came up as a Fail. My machine specs: September 2006 iMac 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Bus speed 667 MHz 4 GB RAM 160 G hard drive running Snow Leopard, 10.6.8 I recently upgraded to Snow Leopard, and I just installed the 4 G's of RAM this past weekend. I did not do a clean install of the SL, I just installed it over my previous OS. (maybe that is the problem?) I'm wondering if I need to wipe the HD and reinstall SL? Or go back to the previous OS? The only other thing I've done recently is rip a bunch of my cd collection onto the computer, but I can't imagine that would cause a kernel panic. The things that failed in the Tech Tool report are: Format Check , which says that this test result most likely indicates an actual hardware problem, and to try backing up, reformatting, and replacing data and testing again. Directory Scan, which says that media defects cause this test to fail, and they recommend the above. Volume Structure, which it says can be a minor issue or indicative of a more serious problem. I printed out the kernel panic report, but can't find it on the computer to copy/paste it here. Is there a segment of it that would be useful for me to type here? Or, where do I look for it to try and copy/paste it? Man, I hope this machine isn't dying, I can't replace it right now. Any advice is most appreciated. Thank you, Cat -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: kernel panic
On Jun 29, 2012, at 2:50 PM, druidygal wrote: I wasn't able to install Applejack yesterday. I downloaded it and installed it, but then it wasn't there. I'll try again. Applejack is only usable in Single User mode (hold down the S key at startup) Wasn't able to copy/paste anything from Console, it just blues out a line and I can't do anything with it. Is there some magic trick to be able to copy/paste the Console log? control/right-click doesn't work but command c or selecting 'copy' from the edit menu do: From mine running 10.6.8. 6/29/12 3:06:01 PM com.apple.backupd[44061]Starting standard backup 6/29/12 3:06:01 PM com.apple.backupd[44061]Backing up to: /Volumes/TardisToo/Backups.backupdb I pulled the new RAM this morning and put the old back in, which so far is an improvement, though I'm still seeing a lot of error logs in Console, but so far today, no crashes (fingers crossed). That pretty well nails it as the RAM being the problem. Tech Tool showed the same failures when I redid the scan. My next step is to do a clean install of Snow Leopard. You might try running APpleJack, then Disk Repair. Permissions repair won't rally fix anything unless you're getting explicit permissions errors in the logs. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: kernel panic
At 2:50 PM -0700 6/29/2012, druidygal wrote: I wasn't able to install Applejack yesterday. I downloaded it and installed it, but then it wasn't there. I'll try again. To elaborate on Bruce's reply... AppleJack is a special shell script that is run from Single User Mode. It is NOT a normal app -- so it won't be there where you expect. (Technically, it lives within OS X's Unix underbelly, in /private/var/root/Library/Scripts/, instead of /Applications). To run AppleJack, get into Single User Mode by holding down cmd-S while restarting your Mac. You'll see the Unix kernel of OS X load, then it will drop you at a command prompt. Type applejack, without the quotes, and hit return. It's pretty self-explanitory after that. At this point, just tell it to repair the disk. DO NOT run all the other tasks [*see below]. When AppleJack is done, reboot. That boot will take a bit longer than normal, as it has to rebuild the kernel caches. I pulled the new RAM this morning and put the old back in, which so far is an improvement, good. but so far today, no crashes (fingers crossed). great! Tech Tool showed the same failures when I redid the scan. My next step is to do a clean install of Snow Leopard. Why would your next step be to reinstall the OS? You are not running Windows. OS X does NOT corrupt itself normally. It would be better if you worked to determine the actual cause of the problems - hardware or software - THEN take the appropriate action. Otherwise, reinstalling - that's the equivalent of replacing the oil in your car when the problem is that you have flat tires! It's the type of thing that really poor tech support people tell you to do, just to get you off the phone. [*] Seriously. Think about what you're doing. You have an unstable system, so you need to do as little as possible. You DO NOT want to make things worse. DO NOT repair permissions, for example. That just makes no sense - in an unstable system you want to run around making changes to the operating system's files No. Keep it simple. JUST repair the file system itself. At this point you have TWO potential problems. 1) Memory failure. 2) corrupted HFS+ file system on your HD. While the memory is borked, you don't want to muck with the HD, because to fix the HD, the computer has to read data into that potentially failing memory! oops.Ok. You put in the old memory and things seem more stable. That's good. You addressed (1) first. If the machine really seems more stable, then Ok, NOW it's probably safe to repair that drive. Do that with AppleJack. Then see how things run. If things seem better, AppleJack it again, telling it to do everything. Then see how things run. THEN make a good backup. THEN consider trying that new memory again... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: kernel panic
Oh man, thank you guys so much for this info! I'm going to try Applejack right after I'm finished here. Dan, you're right, I was trying things that the tech at the local mac sellers said to do, (she said repair permissions, and reinstall the OS, and that if that didn't work, I'd need to bring it to them for deeper diagnostics). Okay, now I'm going to try pasting a few snippets from Console, in hopes it will tell us something useful (not sure which exact things to select, but hope some of this is okay): 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20128:23 PM [0x0-0x2db2db].com.apple.iPhoto[13400] Tue Jun 26 20:23:30 catherine-torellis-computer.local iPhoto[13400] Error: The function `CGDataProviderAccessSessionEnd' is obsolete and will be removed in an upcoming update. Unfortunately, this application, or a library it uses, is using this obsolete function, and is thereby contributing to an overall degradation of system performance. (hey cool, it works! Thanks Bruce!) 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20128:23 PM iPhoto[13400] *** WARNING: Method setDrawsGrid: in class MediaBrowserTableView is deprecated. It will be removed in a future release and should no longer be used. 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20128:26 PM [0x0-0x2e52e5].com.apple.iPhoto[13437] Tue Jun 26 20:26:03 catherine-torellis-computer.local iPhoto[13437] Error: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged. 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20128:58 PM [0x0-0x2c92c9].com.apple.Safari[13326] Tue Jun 26 20:58:46 catherine-torellis-computer.local Safari[13326] Error: CGImageDestinationCreate destination parameter is nil 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20129:04 PM [0x0-0x2c92c9].com.apple.Safari[13326] 2012-06-26 21:04:23.320 PluginProcess[13574:903] *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x101dc0 of class NSCFDictionary autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20129:14 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[106] ([0x0-0x2d22d2].com.apple.Preview[13375]) Exited: Killed 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20129:15 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[99] (com.apple.ReportCrash) Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20129:15 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.xprotectupdater[20]) Exited with exit code: 252 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20129:15 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[99] (com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[124]) Exited with exit code: 1 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20129:15 PM com.apple.WindowServer[73] Tue Jun 26 21:15:33 catherine-torellis-computer.local WindowServer[73] Error: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged. 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20129:17 PM SubmitDiagInfo[151] Submitted panic report: /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Kernel_2012-06-26-211515_catherine-torellis-computer.panic 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20129:17 PM SubmitDiagInfo[151] Submitted panic report: /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Kernel_2012-06-26-211515_catherine-torellis-computer.panic 6/28/12 Jun 28, 20128:31 PM com.apple.Dock.agent[101] Thu Jun 28 20:31:08 catherine-torellis-computer.local Dock[101] Error: (ipc/send) invalid destination port: CGSSetMagicMirror: server didn't like your request 6/28/12 Jun 28, 20128:31 PM com.apple.Dock.agent[101] Thu Jun 28 20:31:08 catherine-torellis-computer.local Dock[101] Error: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged. Okay, that's probably enough, and maybe some of this isn't as ominous as it looks to non-Tech me. Does any of this tell us anything useful? Thanks, Cat -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: kernel panic
At 6:02 PM -0700 6/29/2012, druidygal wrote: 6/26/12 Jun 26, 20129:17 PM SubmitDiagInfo[151] Submitted panic report: /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Kernel_2012-06-26-211515_catherine-torellis-computer.panic Okay, that's probably enough, and maybe some of this isn't as ominous as it looks to non-Tech me. Does any of this tell us anything useful? The errors that refer to iPhoto and Safari were just routine blither. The key is the panic report. Open the folder /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ Drag the file Kernel_2012-06-26-211515_catherine-torellis-computer.panic to your desktop. Email that file to me, or paste it into your reply here. Hopefully it will have something definitive in it. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: kernel panic
On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:27 AM, druidygal wrote: I had my first ever kernel panic. I ran TechTool Deluxe after restarting the machine, and 3 things came up as a Fail. I recently upgraded to Snow Leopard, and I just installed the 4 G's of RAM this past weekend. This happened to my iMac G5 after a RAM upgrade. Make sure that your new RAM modules are of the correct type/speed, and securely set. Fabian -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: kernel panic
At 7:27 AM -0700 6/27/2012, druidygal wrote: [2 GHz iMac Core2Duo, 4GB RAM, 160GB HD, OS X 10.6.8] I had my first ever kernel panic. I ran TechTool Deluxe after restarting the machine, and 3 things came up as a Fail. I recently upgraded to Snow Leopard, and I just installed the 4 G's of RAM this past weekend. [snip] I can't imagine that would cause a kernel panic. Most panics are caused by hardware issues. Can't tell exactly what happened in your case, without seeing the log. Since you installed new memory - that's the best place to start. Pull it. Clean the slots and DIMMs. Reinstall it firmly. Be sure to be properly grounded when doing any hardware work! The things that failed in the Tech Tool report are: Format Check , which says that this test result most likely indicates an actual hardware problem, and to try backing up, reformatting, and replacing data and testing again. Directory Scan, which says that media defects cause this test to fail, and they recommend the above. Volume Structure, which it says can be a minor issue or indicative of a more serious problem. Repair the disk volume with Disk Utility. If you've installed AppleJack, then you can use it to run the repair, without needing to boot on something else (OS X DVD, external backup, etc). I printed out the kernel panic report, but can't find it on the computer to copy/paste it here. Is there a segment of it that would be useful for me to type here? Or, where do I look for it to try and copy/paste it? Use Console.app (It's in /Applications/Utilities/) to view all system type logs. View the log list; it will be in there. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac 233 MHz bondi blue (rev. A) RAM issue
On Jun 25, 2012, at 11:18 PM, Bertil Born wrote: Hi, i've just tried to breathe new life into an iMac 233 MHz ”bondi blue”. I've installed Mac OS X 10.3.9 (including 15 updates from Software Update :-) ) on it, and i've put 512 (256 + 256) MB of RAM into it. It works like a charm, just one minor issue though: according to ”About this computer” it only detects 256 MB of RAM, which is a bummer since i'm trying to install Indesign CS2 on it, which requires 384 MB or more... so I cannot install it. It needs 'single density' so-dimms, meaning that a 256 mb on should have 16 chips on it, not 8. That's the most common reason for only seeing half your ram. Double check in System profiler, to make sure memory's detected in both slots. If both slots show 128mb that's the problem. If only one slot shows ram present, it's either not seated properly, or the ram or one slot is bad. Swap the So-Dimms around and see what happens. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Outgoing mail problem
Usually it¹s the ISP; in my case, I keep losing my internet connection, and have to wait for the cable modem to reset and reconnect. On 6/13/12 8:40 AM, Anders Fager / Gottick fa...@gottick.com wrote: 2.4 GhZ Machine running 10.6.8. Every so often Mail seem to be unable to find the out port when sending mail. Mail's setting has been checked a million times. The are correct. But still every third or fourth mail can not be sent becaset it times out. Anyone else who has had this problem? Anders __ Anders Fager Gottick International www.gottick.com http://www.gottick.com -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Outgoing mail problem
On Jun 13, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Anders Fager / Gottick wrote: 2.4 GhZ Machine running 10.6.8. Every so often Mail seem to be unable to find the out port when sending mail. Mail's setting has been checked a million times. The are correct. But still every third or fourth mail can not be sent becaset it times out. Anyone else who has had this problem? This due to a flaky network connection or a non-responding or intermittent server issue. Timeouts mean something isn't responding. If other network activity works as normal (ie web sites don't take abnormally long to open up) it's the server, either not responding or responding abnormally (like not recognizing your password, etc) Sadly, in that case, you cannot email your ISP to complain :-/ Check the Activity window, that will give more information, as will the system log. If everything is acting up, then start checking your network.There's a lot to check: physical connections, devices between you and the internet, your ISP... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Dismantling iMac G5
I just replaced the power supply on my G5 iMac ALS a couple of weeks ago. I used Apple's DIY Manuals https://support.apple.com/manuals#imac then click on the DIY Manuals option. Scroll down the list until you find what you need. Note they don't go down to component repair level. BTW, I never heard of the white stripes you mention. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Charliefrown charliefrown...@gmail.comwrote: hello, need to replace those nasty capacitors in my power supply module (it only runs fine in reduced cpu mode). Instead of shipping the entire computer to the nearest Mac shop I thought about taking only my power supply module to the local PC/console repair shop. I know there's tear down guide on iFixit site, but maybe someone could give me some tips on that. Particularly I would like to avoid getting white stripes on screen, people reported having after disassemling this iMac. BTW I am not new to fiddling with computers, I do iBook reballing on regular basis :) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G5 issue with DVD Drive
1st thing to do is try another connector cable, then try another drive. On Sunday, June 3, 2012 12:34:45 PM UTC-7, Drew Alleman wrote: I have a second hand 20 inch G5 iMac that I am working on. When ever I install the DVD drive into the machine it refuses to boot. Does this mean a bad motherboard? If not what dos it mean? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Question about Finder Copy
At 8:47 PM -0700 5/30/2012, emelvy wrote: in Mac OS X I chose (in Finder Preferences/Advanced) to let them remain hidden, which is Apple's default for most Kinds of files. Tell Finder to display extensions. OS X no longer depends completely on the internal file creator type code - it uses those extensions. By hiding them, beside the name collision issues, you create opportunities to accidentally run trojans. Next time a filename disappears during a Finder Copy, I will try harder to find out what Kind of file is showing the problem among the many others created in a similar way that don't behave this way. Use Disk Utility to run a verify disk pass on each volume. Make sure the file systems are clean. And next time it happens, check your system log for errors. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G5 issue with DVD Drive
Thanks for your help what I did was I got a drive from a friends broken 17 inch iMac and flipped the connectors and it works now. Thank you, -Drew On Jun 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, gifutiger wrote: 1st thing to do is try another connector cable, then try another drive. On Sunday, June 3, 2012 12:34:45 PM UTC-7, Drew Alleman wrote: I have a second hand 20 inch G5 iMac that I am working on. When ever I install the DVD drive into the machine it refuses to boot. Does this mean a bad motherboard? If not what dos it mean? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard
10.2 is slow. Panther and Tiger are a lot better. As far as I know there isn't. Even if there was it would be so dreadfully slow you would want to throw it out the window. OS 10.2 felt slow on my 400 MHz iMac with a gig of ram, so I'm sure Leopard would be worse. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Question about Finder Copy
On May 28, 12:37 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 12:16 AM -0400 5/27/2012, Melvyn Edith Halbert wrote: I often use the Finder to Copy a bunch of files from my iMac's internal hard drive to some external device. Occasionally an error message pops up that says 'An item named already exists in this location. Do you want to replace it with the one you're moving?' The error message sometimes includes a dot for the name of a problem file (.). When this error occurs with a bunch of files, I have found no easy way to determine what the real filename is or which application created that file. Some of the files being copied were created from webpages saved from Safari, but most of them are text files created by Text Edit in its rtf mode (but without the extension .rtf). I never saw this error before I started using Lion. Has anyone seen similar behavior in Finder Copy? Does anyone know what to do about it? Could be that you're grabbing some invisible files too. You can set Finder to display most invisible files using a tool such as OnyX. Or you can just use the ls -al command in Terminal to view them all. In Finder's preferences, set it to show all file extensions. If you haven't been giving files appropriate extensions, get in the habit of doing so. This will reduce the possibility of odd name collisions. And Apple has depreciated the old creator/type code system anyway. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Dan, Thanks for the suggestions. All of the files that are copied to an external device are ones I produced myself, for which I did not set the invisibility flag (at least not intentionally). I checked whether such a flag was set for any file by listing the source directory in Terminal by ls -al. I found no invisible files (i.e., filenames with a dot as first character). As for filename extensions, they are all there -- for example, it is always .rtf for files created in TextEdit's Rich Text mode. The extensions do appear in the Terminal listing and also in the Get Info window of Mac OS X. However, in Mac OS X I chose (in Finder Preferences/Advanced) to let them remain hidden, which is Apple's default for most Kinds of files. Next time a filename disappears during a Finder Copy, I will try harder to find out what Kind of file is showing the problem among the many others created in a similar way that don't behave this way. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G5 issue with DVD Drive
Are you trying to boot a OS disk or just a regular disk in general keeping it from booting? If you're trying to boot an OS disk you need to use a 10.2-10.5, 10.5 is the best as it provides the most usability and it runs well on a G5. Also, to boot from a disk you need to hold down the C key, and if that doesn't work try holding down the option key to bring up the Boot menu. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G5 issue with DVD Drive
I put a hard drive in it that already had a OS on it (10.5) and it boots when the Superdrive is not installed. When I install the Superdrive the light on the front turns on but nothing else. On Jun 3, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Satterfield wrote: Are you trying to boot a OS disk or just a regular disk in general keeping it from booting? If you're trying to boot an OS disk you need to use a 10.2-10.5, 10.5 is the best as it provides the most usability and it runs well on a G5. Also, to boot from a disk you need to hold down the C key, and if that doesn't work try holding down the option key to bring up the Boot menu. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G5 issue with DVD Drive
I would check to make sure it's properly connected. I'm not sure of the connection on the drive as the only iMac newer than a G4 I've worked on is a 2.16 GHz C2D one. If that isn't the problem try and find a friend with a G5 they will let you use to see if it's a drive or motherboard issue. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard
On May 28, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Alex Sciortino wrote: How can I get Leopard on a 400mhz iMac G3? I know it is impractical, but I want to do it. You can't. It's not merely impractical, it's not possible. Leopard on PPC requires Altivec, which is only present in the G4 and above.. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard
On May 28, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Alex Sciortino wrote: How can I get Leopard on a 400mhz iMac G3? I know it is impractical, but I want to do it. There are 4 400MHz G3 iMacs 3 have Firewire ports If you have a F/W port then make a Carbon Copy Clone of the 10.5 system and use Target Disk Mode with a Fire Wire cable to transfer the cloned file to the G3, Good luck getting it to boot. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard
While, it is basically impossible within reason, and I'm assuming you meant OS X 10.5. Either way, these are the MINIMUM requirements for Leopard, and your G3 would require a complete overhaul just to run it at its minimum. A Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or Power PC G4 (867 MHz or faster) processor 512 MB memory or more A DVD drive for installation 9 GB of available disk space or more However, you could try to put something like 10.2 ( Jaguar) on it, but that's just about as far as I would go. Best Regards, Peter On May 28, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Alex Sciortino zeosr...@gmail.com wrote: I -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Question about Finder Copy
Dan dantear...@gmail.com May 28 12:37PM -0400 Could be that you're grabbing some invisible files too. You can set Finder to display most invisible files using a tool such as OnyX. Or you can just use the ls -al command in Terminal to view them all. In Finder's preferences, set it to show all file extensions. If you haven't been giving files appropriate extensions, get in the habit of doing so. This will reduce the possibility of odd name collisions. And Apple has depreciated the old creator/type code system anyway. - Dan. Melvyn Edith Halbert halbe...@esper.com May 27 12:16AM -0400 I often use the Finder to Copy a bunch of files from my iMac's internal hard drive to some external device. Occasionally an error message pops up that says 'An item named already exists in this location. Do you want to replace it with the one you're moving?' The error message sometimes includes a dot for the name of a problem file (.). When this error occurs with a bunch of files, I have found no easy way to determine what the real filename is or which application created that file. Some of the files being copied were created from webpages saved from Safari, but most of them are text files created by Text Edit in its rtf mode (but without the extension .rtf). I never saw this error before I started using Lion. To make invisible files and folders visible the simplest way is to download a Dashboard widget that toggles invisibility off or on. Install it and you get a tiny window that says Hidden Files with a single button: Show. http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/developer/hiddenfiles.html Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard
Thanks, Do you think a custom kernel would get it to boot? If I remember right there is a custom kernel for the G3. There are 4 400MHz G3 iMacs 3 have Firewire ports If you have a F/W port then make a Carbon Copy Clone of the 10.5 system and use Target Disk Mode with a Fire Wire cable to transfer the cloned file to the G3, Good luck getting it to boot. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard
It currently runs Tiger. I have ran Leopard on a 400mhz G4 it is just removing the need for AltiVec at this point. On May 29, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Peter Haller peter.j.h.r...@gmail.com wrote: While, it is basically impossible within reason, and I'm assuming you meant OS X 10.5. Either way, these are the MINIMUM requirements for Leopard, and your G3 would require a complete overhaul just to run it at its minimum. A Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or Power PC G4 (867 MHz or faster) processor 512 MB memory or more A DVD drive for installation 9 GB of available disk space or more However, you could try to put something like 10.2 ( Jaguar) on it, but that's just about as far as I would go. Best Regards, Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard
As far as I know there isn't. Even if there was it would be so dreadfully slow you would want to throw it out the window. OS 10.2 felt slow on my 400 MHz iMac with a gig of ram, so I'm sure Leopard would be worse. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard
On May 29, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Alex Sciortino wrote: Thanks, Do you think a custom kernel would get it to boot? If I remember right there is a custom kernel for the G3. No there isn't. There may be a G3-optimized Darwin, but OS X is a microkernel architecture; 'customized kernel' is something from monolithic kernel architectures like Linux. You cannot get around the fact that 10.5 makes system calls to hardware that does not exist on a G3 CPU. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
