[lace-chat] Wedding photos

[Avital]

Dear Arachnes,

My officemate took some photos of my son's wedding:

https://plus.google.com/photos/109530146870925961703/albums/6094378009835892833?banner=pwa

It was a very Israeli wedding, rather informal. I was certain that my
husband would be the only one under chuppah not wearing a tie, but the
bride's father also wore a white shirt, no tie. When I arrived, the
mother of the bride grabbed my arms and said, "Why didn't Orna [the
hat seller] tell me that we got the same hat?!" Technically, it is the
same hat--crocheted base with applied fabric flowers and machine lace,
but the colours are so different that you would have had to look
really closely. Her hat was white/pink and mine was white/red/purple.
Hey, we were just well-coordinated! :-)

The hall was amazing, like an indoor garden.

Son surprised us at the end when he took the stage and sang/played
with the band.

Avital

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[lace-chat] Son getting married

[Avital]

Dear spiders,

Just wanted to announce that my son Binyamin (our only child) is
getting married in 2 weeks, on Dec. 18! Yes, he and his bride are very
young (both 21) but they've been together for 5 years and are very
certain they want to do this. He has another year left in the army.
Ayala, his fiancee, is studying industrial design.

Avital
your very busy moderator

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Re: [lace-chat] Soup & Stew enhancer

[Avital]

Just one word of caution -- when storing unprocessed food in oil, keep
it refrigerated. There is a small risk of salmonella:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/food-aliment/holiday-fete-eng.php

Scroll down to "Foods stored in oil."

Avital

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:16 PM, David C COLLYER
 wrote:
>
> I'm not sure how many realize that whatever you put under oil cannot go
> "off". I've done this with such things as fresh hot chillies. But my
> favourite is cubes of fetta (a soft creamy one, such as Danish is best).
> Then add a generous tablespoon of crushed garlic and some cracked black
> pepper corns. Once you've eaten the cheese simply add more cubes to the oil
> and top up when necessary (about once a year!!!)
>
> David in Ballarat, AUS

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[lace-chat] Hacked accounts

[Avital]

Dear spiders,

There have been a lot of accounts hacked lately, so this is a gentle
reminder: Do not click on any link that looks suspicious, even if it
comes from this list or from someone you know. "Suspicious" means
links that are posted with no comments or with comments like, "Look at
this wonderful site I found!"

If you do post a link to the list, please include a sentence or two
explaining what it is, so that we know that the link is genuine.

If you do not have a secure password for your email account, change
it! Insecure passwords are the number one way that accounts get hacked
or misused. Don't use sequences like 12345678 or easy to guess
passwords like "PASSWORD" (yes, people actually do that sort of thing)
or your birth date, spouse's name, etc. When you use an insecure or a
default password, it's like leaving your house key under the doormat.

Thank-you,

Avital
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Admin: Andrea's message

[Avital]

Tamara,

You're too clever to be taken in by this kind of spam. ;-)
Unfortunately, there are people out there who don't think these things
through and unfortunately they send payment ... only to get an
embarrassed email a few months later saying, "Hi, everyone, my account
was hacked. Hope no one got hurt..."

I got the same message on Facebook chat, from someone I hardly knew,
so that raised my suspicions. I replied, "Sorry, go find another
victim," and got a smiley in return.

Avital

> I got it both ways -- in private and on the list -- and read it first on my 
> personal mail. Since I don't know Andrea personally, I was startled to see 
> the apology for not letting me know of her trip. Once that first alarm bell 
> sounded, I read the rest of the message (in poor English, not really excused 
> by the trauma described) with some amusement, looking for other oddities and 
> inconsistencies. Then trashed it, moved on to reading Arachne and, by golly, 
> there it was again :)
>

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Re: [lace-chat] Admin: Andrea's message

[Avital]

And you would probably contact a lace-making buddy privately, not send
an SOS to the whole list!

Avital

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Clay Blackwell
 wrote:
> I am horrified by what has been going on regarding Andrea's account!  I've
> gotten emails from my sister which suggest to me that her account has also
> been hacked.  She is traveling right now, so I hope all is well with her.
>
> Thank all of you for your good advice regarding passwords.  Groan...  I've
> got a lot of work to do to establish safer ones!
>
> But regarding Avital's question - if I were in trouble would I turn to
> lace-making buddies for help?  I think if I were in a foreign country and
> had a glimmer of a hope that an Arachne friend lived nearby, I might ask for
> help...  but never money!
>
> Clay

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[lace-chat] Admin: Andrea's message

[Avital]

OK, now I've finally found Andrea's message -- in my spam folder! I've
seen this at least 4 times over the past month, including from a
workmate who was sitting right beside me at the time. It's a scam. If
you were in trouble, would you turn to your lace-making buddies for
help? I mean, really

I've unsubscribed Andrea's account from lace-digest and
lace-chat-digest. Do NOT communicate with Andrea using this account.
If you reply to "her" email, you will get a message telling you how
relieved she is and with an account number where you can wire her a
couple hundred dollars to pay her bills, get her home, etc. There is a
real person using Andrea's account and it sure isn't Andrea.

Best wishes,

Avital
Arachne moderator

-- Forwarded message --
From: Andrea Lamble 
Date: Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Subject: [lace] Help...Andrea Lamble
To:


Hi,I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,sorry I did not inform you about my
trip.I actually made a quick trip to Madrid (Spain) and unfortunately attacked
and mugged at a gun point on the way to my hotel,all cash,credit card and cell
were stolen off me but luckily I still have my passport with me.
I`ve been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at
all and my return flight leaves anytime from now but I`m having problems
settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let me leave until I
settle the bills.
Am freaked out at the moment and need help.

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[lace-chat] Admin: moderator email change

[Avital]

Dear Spiders,

I've changed the moderator email address (look in the footer of this
message) to a Gmail account from Yahoo. Since I've set it up to
forward emails automatically to my personal account, I won't have to
remember to check the moderator account once a week. So that should
mean a faster turn-around in subscription requests, address changes,
lost digests, etc.

You're always welcome to write to me if you need a human reply about a
problem with Arachne. If you have a subscription problem, please tell
me which list (lace or lace-chat) and whether you get individual
messages or digests. Lace, lace-chat, lace-digest, and
lace-chat-digest are four separate lists. If you don't tell me which
list you're on, I have to either download the membership files and
search for your address or send commands blindly to majordomo, hoping
that I get the right one.

Best wishes,

Avital
Arachne moderator

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[lace-chat] Moderator off-line for a few days

[Avital]

Dear spiders,

Rosh Hashanah starts in about 15 minutes. It's two days followed by
Shabbat, so I will be off-line until Saturday night. In the meantime,
be well! For those who are celebrating the holiday, Shana tovah, Gemar
hatimah tovah.

Best wishes,

Avital

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[lace-chat] Admin: Ignore the spam

[Avital]

Don't click on the link sent to lace chat by lcamp2...@aol.com

Avital

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[lace-chat] Photos of Sunrise over Amman

[Avital]

Twice a year the rising sun aligns with the twin towers of Amman,
Jordan, some 70 km from where I live. A couple days ago I dragged
myself out of bed and managed to photograph them just before 6 a.m. I
tried this last August and it was okay, but this year was even better
because the sun lined up directly behind the buildings. Interesting
thing is that in the cropped photo you can see the cranes (the
buildings are still under construction). This year I was able to use a
DSLR camera (Canon Rebel XSi or 450D) and 250mm lens.

http://apinnick.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/sunrise-over-amman-2010/

Here are the photos I took in August 2009, if you want to compare. I
didn't have a long enough lens for my DSLR, so I used a Canon
PowerShot S5 IS.

http://apinnick.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/sunrise-over-amman/

Avital

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[lace-chat] ADMIN: [lace] Free Money , Come And Try

[Avital]

Don't go to the site and don't blame Tess, who is a long-standing
member of this list. Her addressbook has evidently been hijacked. It
could happen to anyone.

Best wishes,

Avital
Arachne moderator

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[lace-chat] Manicures

[Avital]

Moving my reply to lace-chat because my photo has nothing to do with lace.

Thanks, Vicki! I had to forward that to my officemate, who likes to
have her fingernails match her toenails. Here's a photo I took of her
latest "set":

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/4434220037/

Avital

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Vicki Bradford  wrote:
> Today on AOL, the following story was posteda new use for (machine...I
> doubt anyone would want to use handmade!) lace.  Enjoy!
>
> http://www.stylelist.com/2010/03/15/black-lace-manicure-lace-nails/
>
> Vicki in Maryland where spring has finally sprung!

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Re: [lace-chat] Lady with Unicorn cross-stitch

[Avital]

I'm sorry your daughter was so upset but I love that word --
unicornicide! Now I have to Google them to see what I blanked out.

Oh yes, now I see what you mean

http://www.inetours.com/New_York/Pages/photos/Unicorn-Tapestry.html

That wouldn't appeal to me as much as an embroidery subject!

Avital

> people were stabbing the unicorn. We had to carry her out of the room. The
> Cluny Museum series is much more pleasurable and sedate, since it depicts
> the five senses, not unicornicide.
> Devon

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Re: [lace-chat] Lady with Unicorn cross-stitch

[Avital]

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Vicki Bradford  wrote:
> Hi Avital & everyone,
>
> Lovely knitted shawl (love the color!) and very nice beginning to the
> Unicorn tapestry cross-stitch!  I'm with you as far as "compulsive
> cross-stitching" is concerned since I love finely detailed charts.  I had a
> look at the Scarlet Quince website (http://www.scarletquince.com/) last
> night and picked out 12 patterns I liked.  Then I had a long chat with
> myself and finally settled on ordering two. (I must confess that despite
> having enough charts to open a shop, my cross-stitching has taken a backseat

Well, if you ever go back to counted cross-stitch, another site I like
is http://www.goldenkite.com! But on the whole, I prefer Scarlet
Quince designs because Golden Kite has too many romantic (I mean the
historical period and style, not the subject matter) paintings for my
taste.

> to lace since I discovered it some time ago...(-: Still, I can't resist a
> really wonderful chart!)  I love medieval designs too, and I too have been
> fortunate to see a set of the Cluny unicorn tapestries, though the ones I
> saw are at The Cloisters in upper Manhattan.  I think The Cloisters is such
> a perfect setting for their display and highly recommend visiting to anyone
> who has the opportunity.  I do hope to see the ones in Paris someday as
> well.  We ran out of time the last time I was there, but that museum had
> been on my list.

I've seen the ones in the Cloisters, too. I'd forgotten about that,
probably because it was part of a disastrous weekend when I broke up
with my boyfriend while I was in grad school. That's probably why I
remember the Cluny ones better. ;-)  Also, I was traveling alone in
Europe, so I was able to hang around the Cluny Museum for as long as I
wanted. When you're with someone else you have to adjust to their
schedule.

> For cross-stitchers on the list, Scarlet Quince has Vermeer's "The
> Lacemaker" among its selections.  Sorry to be a temptress and facilitator!
>  

LOL! Isn't that what lace and needlework lists are for? To tempt us?

Avital

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[lace-chat] Lady with Unicorn cross-stitch

[Avital]

I'm moving this to chat because it's getting rather far from lace.

I'm working this on Aida cloth. The finished piece will be about 18x23
inches. Here's a link to my description of the pattern itself.

http://apinnick.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/lady-and-the-unicorn-sense-of-hearing/

Avital


On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:04 AM,   wrote:
> Avital,
> You certainly have been busy.  What an incredible project.  Is it worked on 
> congress cloth?  Do you have any idea how big the piece will be when it's 
> finished?  I don't think I would ever have the guts to tackle something that 
> big.
> Liz
> Raleigh, NC, USA where the snow is beginning to melt.

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Re: [lace-chat] First solar eclipse of 2010

[Avital]

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Ruth Rocker  wrote:
> Those are great pictures, Avital. I must be living in a cave because I
> wasn't even aware of the eclipse 

I didn't know about it either, except that I was talking with a
co-worker, trying to identify a bird I'd photographed (he's a licensed
tour guide). He mentioned that there would be a partial solar eclipse
and we both knew Roy, so I emailed Roy to ask whether it was possible
to photograph it. He said he'd be in one of the parks in our
neighbourhood. I met him and we both took pictures.

Tonight we (and about ten other people) met for a sighting of the new
moon. Unfortunately, I couldn't take pictures because it was on
Shabbat but maybe next month, if the skies are clear!

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] First solar eclipse of 2010

[Avital]

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Francis Busschaert
 > is it possible we could not see it
here in europe?

Belgium is probably too far west. You could check the NASA site or a
map of eclipse paths.

> may i also ask wy did you not take a direct picture of it?
> is it because of dificultys whit the digital camera? can it not cope whit
> the to strong sun and "black" spot?

I don't have a solar filter for my camera. You probably know that's
it's dangerous to look directly into the sun. Even more so with a
telephoto lens. I'd like to keep my retina intact for a few more
years. Even my 3-stop ND filter wouldn't have been sufficient.

Avital

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[lace-chat] First solar eclipse of 2010

[Avital]

Gentle spiders,

Did anyone else manage to see the solar eclipse? I thought it would be
too cloudy but just at the maximum point the clouds parted and we were
able to photograph it.

http://apinnick.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/first-solar-eclipse-of-2010/

Avital

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[lace-chat] Admin: Trimming posts

[Avital]

Dear Spiders on lace-chat,

Please trim your posts! I just saw one with four, yes, FOUR message
footers. Delete them! Delete anything else that you don't need! Neat
emails keep our digests nice and trim.

Hope you're all having a great 2010.

Avital
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Re: [lace-chat] nothing about lace, but

[Avital]

Dora,

We'll open a bottle in your honour tonight! ;-) Congratulations on the
sixty years and sorry that Vic is not there to celebrate with you. I
hope you'll post more pictures of your amazing knotting again.

Best wishes,
Avital

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Dora Northern
 wrote:
> Hallo Lacers,
>
> I cant resist telling you, that tomorrow I will be 6o years in England and I
> only had the permission to stay for one working year.. It is surprising how
> one year can be stretched.
> Alas Vic is no longer with me and without a family I will have to drink all by
> myself.
> So please think about me when I open the bottle at about 7 pm.
> I still like it here not just because they do not want me back in Germany.
>
> Greetings from a loner Knotter
>
> Dora

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Re: [lace-chat] Music video

[Avital]

Oh, darn -- I was hoping for more problems to solve! ;-)

If others are having problems, try later or try refreshing the browser
page. Sometimes a video gets overloaded and shows a "Not available"
message.

Avital

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 7:01 PM,   wrote:
> Malvary told me what to look for on the index and I found it - at the
> address I had been using all along!  Avital - I don't expect you to sort  out
> this little mystery for me.
>
> Patricia in Wales
> scotl...@aol.com
>

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[lace-chat] Admin: Subscription problems

[Avital]

Dear spiders,

If you (or someone you know) is having trouble subscribing or
unsubscribing, write to me at spind...@gmail.com or at
arachnemodera...@yahoo.com (I check that address about once a week).
The yahoo address is at the bottom of every Arachne email. You can use
it for questions about the email archives, photos, attachments,
viruses, computer problems (within reason!), etc.

I live in Israel so my time zone is 7 hours ahead of the US east coast
and 2 hours ahead of the UK. I'm off-line during Jewish holidays and
Shabbat (late Fri. afternoon to early Sat. evening), but unless I'm
actually out of town on vacation I do follow the Arachne list and try
to sort out subscription problems behind the scenes.

Best wishes,

Avital
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Re: [lace-chat] You got in Lesley!

[Avital]

I checked the subscription list. Lesley managed to subscribe to lace-chat.

Avital

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Tamara P Duvall  wrote:
> Um. I'm not so sure. Anyone who's suscribed to Arachne (lace, the tech
> version) can *post* to both it and lace-chat. But you have to subscribe to
> lace-chat to be able to read it. And sending your "subscribe" request to
> chat doesn't do it. OTOH, I'm pretty sure that once the weekend is over
> Avital will sort Leslie out, and get her subscribed here too; she usually
> catches those mis-sent "subscribe" requests pretty smartly.

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Re: [lace-chat] Missing digests?

[Avital]

Lynn,

The last two digests were sent on Apr. 6 and Apr. 13. So if you didn't
get the digest that was sent the day you sent this message, then you
are missing one. If you did receive it, then you are up to date. You
can always check the archives at
http://www.mail-archive.com/lace-c...@arachne.com.

Avital

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Lynne Cumming
 wrote:
> Have there really been no lace-chat messages since 6th April? I get the
> digest and have not had anything since then No.97. Some of my lace digests
> have been diverted to junk mail by outlook despite my rules being up to date
> (and I haven't changed any) so I'm just concerned - and I don't want to miss
> anything!
>
> Lynne

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[lace-chat] Short video of my son playing the guitar

[Avital]

Because so many of you have heard about my son since he was very
young, I feel like he has several hundred lace-making aunties. ;-)

This is a one-minute video of my son playing the guitar (acoustic --
he usually leaves his electric guitar at school because the amplifier
is too bulky to drag home by bus on weekends):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFVsJwUO6oQ

Normally he plays better than this but he had a cold that day and I
was insistent on filming him. This was my first video (I've gotten
better at it since then, although I've only made two others).

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] :-)) GOTTA LOVE SURVEYS!

[Avital]

Actually, the first time I got it when you sent it to the list, my
Gmail account showed the Arabic just fine. When I was studying Syriac,
a Syrian student told me it looked like messy Arabic, so I always
think of Arabic as looking like messy Syriac. ;-) Cute joke. The
second time, when you posted this apology, the Arabic wasn't rendered
properly. Maybe it was your email program that made a mess of the
Arabic the first time or perhaps the Unicode viewing setting of my
browser (so that I can read Hebrew when I have to) allowed the Arabic
font to display.

Avital



On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:46 PM, jeanette  wrote:
> I sent this as an experiment but it did not work.  The last sentence is
> supposed to be in Arabic writing but it was not accepted by lace-caht.
> Apologies.  Jeanette Fischer.
>

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Re: [lace-chat] Thanks Avital - Rego Plates

[Avital]

LOL! Did I suggest that? I'd forgotten. What a scream! I'm glad you
got the plates. Please let us know if you get any reactions!

Avital,
busy with Passover preparations but still calm


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:08 AM, David in Ballarat
 wrote:
> Dear Friends,
> Yesterday I finally got myself a new 2nd hand car (2006 VW Polo Match -
> black)
>
> I went straight away and found out how to get personalized plates and have
> ordered them today. Pity I didn't do it a couple of years ago when we were
> discussing this issue here. They've gone up a couple of hundred dollars
> since.
>
> I had always meant to get what Avital suggested and they are now on the way
>
> "LACEXY" - with its triple entendre.
>
> David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Need Help Identifying Pulled Thread Embroidery Design

[Avital]

It looks like South American/Mexican drawn work to me. Is that
possible? Is Alex Stillwell on lace chat? She would probably know.

Avital

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Tamara P Duvall  wrote:
> On Jan 27, 2009, at 10:39, Lois Mackin wrote:
>
>> I would like to know if anyone can identify the design. Is it American? Is
>> it Polish? Is it Lithuanian? Can anyone suggest a date?
>
> Probably not Polish. I don't know much about Polish embroidery but,
> according to the book I have (Polski haft ludowy -- Polish Folk Embroidery),
> what little of pulled-thread embroidery there was, seemed to have been done
> in the western and central parts of Poland, not in the eastern part. And it
> was mostly floral, rather than geometric, the way your piece is.
>
> But I can't say for certain-sure; negative evidence is always less
> illuminating than positive evidence. It's not in the book, but does it mean
> it wasn't made, or that none srvived (the book deals with costumes, rather
> than home furnishings), or that the author didn't come accross any examples?
> --
> Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
> Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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Re: [lace-chat] Morris Dancing: Life with Bells On

[Avital]

I missed that! Guess I need to watch it again. ;-)

Avital

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:15 PM,   wrote:
> The film is definitely taking the mick out of Morris dancing - and  Hollywood
> (to a lesser extent).  Did anyone look at the cast list?!

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Re: [lace-chat] Morris Dancing: Life with Bells On

[Avital]

I saw the link posted to a spinning list that I belong to. Call me a
cultural boor, but I always thought Morris dancing was a bit, er,
silly. This video was so over-the-top with the melodramatic music and
dialogue ("I'd die for it. In fact I know some people who have") that
I couldn't stop laughing. Then I sent the link to all my English
friends, DH (from London/Birmingham), and my sister (born in Bethnal
Green, now living in the Lewisham area of London). I knew the Arachnes
would appreciate it.  I wish I could see the real film!

Avital


On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> Quite extraordinary! How did you come across that film & site, Avital?
>
> Sue

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[lace-chat] Morris Dancing: Life with Bells On

[Avital]

Since there are quite a few Arachnes in England, I thought the
non-English might appreciate this interesting bit of culture. ;-)

http://www.morrismovie.com/

Avital

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[lace-chat] Moon, Jupiter, Venus

[Avital]

Did anyone go out to see the moon-Jupiter-Venus show last night? I
only found out by chance when DH called me at work. I took three
photos of the moon setting when I got home. It was moving so fast (and
I was using a long exposure) that the planets appear as motion blurs.
I hear that the next time this will occur is in 40 years.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/3076278379/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/3076278257/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/3077109182/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/3073931157/  ("Smiley" in the
sky taken a couple hours before the others)

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] Something slightly different-recession strategy

[Avital]

> Beautiful, but who are you going to sell them to? I understand that the
> first thing people cut down on in a recession is handmade greeting cards.

Just joking. We're about to undergo a wave of firings at my company,
so we're all coming up with worst case scenarios. At lunch today one
of my coworkers said he'd become a Playboy Magazine photographer and
the other said he would become a professional sperm donor (if you know
them, you'd see the absurdity). If I wanted to sell my work,
however, I wouldn't sell greeting cards because they're simply not
very popular in Israel. There are fewer card-oriented holidays and so
many people have Internet, so it's much easier to send e-cards. But
people do pay good money for Judaica. It's not easy to break into that
market with so many talented artists out there, but it pays better
than greeting cards!

At the moment I like to pursue my hobbies as hobbies. Whenever people
say, "You should sell your
knitting/crochet/tatting/drawing/painting/whatever," I always say,
"But that would take all the fun out of it." After all those years in
grad school I don't want to end up in my very own sweatshop. ;-)

Avital

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[lace-chat] Something slightly different

[Avital]

Another paper cutting.

I figure that if I lose my job in the current economic situation I can
always try selling greeting cards on a street corner. ;-)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/3045629858/

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Another paper cutting

[Avital]

It's really not a problem. The things that are problematic to ship are
explosives, inflammable substances, drugs, and anything forbidden by
local laws. Last time I checked, both Israel and the US allow their
citizens to use craft knives. The only stipulation is that it must be
wrapped up properly so that a postal handler doesn't get injured.
Getting a craft knife sent by Tamara is no different from my ordering
one from Amazon or Fred Aldous or Dick Blick. Totally legal.

Best wishes,

Avital


On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Clay Blackwell
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> I surely hope not!!  But it may land one or both of you on "a list"
> somewhere!!
>
> Tamara P Duvall wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 17, 2008, at 17:25, Clay Blackwell wrote:
>>
>>> Gosh, you two...  I hope you don't get arrested for shipping hazardous
>>> sharp objects!!!
>>
>> You can't take them with you on a plane (but that's true about every
>> country now) but, a craft knife with spare blades, safely packed and
>> declared on a mailing slip? What's dangerous about that? It's not a hand
>> grenade or a loaded gun.
>>

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Re: [lace-chat] Another paper cutting

[Avital]

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Tamara P Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  I think I need to find a reliable source
>> for knife blades.
>
> Me, me, me! Am I first? :)

LOL! Of course you're first! You're faster with the reply key than
almost anyone I know! ;-)  We'll talk off-line. Thanks very much for
the offer.

> PS Your cuttings are lovely. Remind me a bit of the ones I used to see in
> folk stores, back in Warsaw, except yours are single colour and therefore
> nicer/more lacy.

When I was a teenager, a Polish friend of my mother used to do amazing
paper cuttings of roosters, flowers, etc., from magazine pages. She
did the traditional kind (sorry, can't think of the term and certainly
can't spell it without checking) where different coloured papers are
layered. I remember her son pointing to an amazing chrysanthemum paper
cutting and telling me, "That used to be a picture of meatloaf." From
Hamburger Helper to art.

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] Another paper cutting

[Avital]

Actually, X-acto knives can be sent to Israel easily. I might have to
order them from Fred Aldous in Manchester. The only problem with
bringing the knives into Israel is if they are packed hand luggage.
Since most of the systems engineers I know who go abroad frequently
like to travel with only hand luggage, this is a problem! ;-)  There
is a local knife. I'll have to see whether I can get more blades for
it. Or maybe I should practice with a box cutter until I get really
good! 

Avital

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> Beautiful piece. Avital. Also one of my favourite passages from Scripture!
>
> Changing blades frequently is very important in cutting paper. hope you can
> find an X-acto substitute, as I don't think we can send them into Israel
> easily!!
> Sue
>
>

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[lace-chat] Another paper cutting

[Avital]

This time I tackled lettering for the first time. It wasn't as hard as
I thought it would be, but I think I need to find a reliable source
for knife blades. They don't seem to have X-Acto knives in Israel.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/3034438526/

I was thinking that small paper cuttings, with names and dates and a
simple design, might make a fast, cheap wedding gift.

Hey, this guy charges $900 for a 2-layer paper cutting!
http://www.archiegranot.com/Product.asp?IDProduct=474

Avital

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[lace-chat] Paper-cutting tips

[Avital]

 it does reduce the
eye strain and help me to make neater cuts. You also should have a
good source of light nearby.


Designs and inspiration:

http://elsita.typepad.com/allaboutpapercutting/

The woman who runs this blog has a very modern style. She has many,
many links down the sides of the page to other paper artists and you
can get a good idea of different styles by looking at their work. The
Russian woman who taught my neighbour was obviously taught or
influenced by the Israeli artist Zippora Neeman. She uses the same
designs and techniques. I've only started skimming the surface and
have browsed through maybe a dozen of these links.

Here's an Israeli artist (originally from England) who has a very
modern and geometric approach to Jewish papercutting:
http://www.archiegranot.com/index.asp

Joe Bagley, an American artist, does some impressive work. I assume
that he starts with B/W photographs for his architecture paper
cuttings: http://www.papercutsbyjoe.com/intro.htm   His paper cutting
of Big Ben is amazing.

There are almost no decent books on the market that I could find (I
was looking around Amazon for books to put on my wish list for my
birthday), so I recommend looking around the blogs and Web sites for
ideas. There is a craft book called "Craft Workshop: Paper Cutting,"
which is available on Amazon (I picked it up in a bargain bin). I
don't recommend it. The projects are extremely simple and sort of
artsy-craftsy -- lampshades, shelf trim, desk accessories, that sort
of thing. Interestingly, I found that one pattern looked strangely
familiar. I pulled out my Vinciolo "Renaissance Patterns for Lace,
Embroidery and Needlepoint" book (the little Dover paperback with the
purple and red cover) and discovered that the pattern was based on one
of the punto in aria patterns, so you might want to try translating
lace patterns (especially needle lace) into paper cutting.

Another book that is available is "Papercutting: Tips, Tools, and
Techniques for Learning the Craft." It teaches you how to cut in the
German style (flowers, birds, hearts, often painted with watercolours
afterwards). If that style appeals to you, then the book is worth a
look.

Enjoy! It's an incredibly easy and cheap craft and requires very
little equipment or storage space.

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] Paper cutting

[Avital]

Compared to lace-making and embroidery, paper-cutting is almost
instant gratification! I can do a fairly complex one in a couple
evenings. I find it rather relaxing.

Please do take pictures of the panels! Would love to see them.

Avital

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Avital, they are great and so intricate - must take you hours to do.
>
> I started my Christmas shopping today - went to Bluewater, one of the
> biggest indoor shopping malls in Europe.  I had lunch in Ponti's, next to
> The Pier, and overhead are several decorative panels which reminded me of
> your paper cutting, except that they are each about 3 metres / 10 feet long
> and are of fish and birds etc.  Can't find any pics of these panels on the
> web so I'll try to remember to take my camera next time I go there.
>
> Brenda

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Re: [lace-chat] Paper cutting

[Avital]

This kind of work is usually called paper sculpting. Although cutting
is involved, the 3-dimensional effects require molding, etc.
Traditional paper-cutting is 2-dimensional and flat.

Avital

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> The paper cutting fascinated me also so I Googled paper cutting hoping to
> find some instructions but found this site
> http://www.petercallesen.com/index/A4PAPERCUT_000.htm.  Was this done the
> same way, Avital?  One site is on Youtube and I thought that would show how
> but it was a band called Paper cutting
>
> Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa.

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Re: [lace-chat] Paper cutting

[Avital]

Thanks! I added three more, done from photos. One is my son playing
the electric guitar. The other two are a gate and a statue at Hampton
Court.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/sets/72157608480889917/

I'm still fooling around, haven't really come up with a particular
style or big project yet.

Avital

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> Wow, Avital, they are beautiful!  I especially like the peacock one.
>
> Margaret in PA

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Re: [lace-chat] No time to read the Classics?

[Avital]

Some of them are a sophomoric but they're addictive!

Avital

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:42 PM, David in Ballarat
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> No time to read the classics? This is how they should have taught us in
> school!
>
>
> http://www.rinkworks.com/bookaminute/classics.shtml   I liked the Rime of
> the Ancient Mariner!!
>
>
> David in Ballarat
>

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[lace-chat] Paper cutting

[Avital]

Dear Spiders,

Does anyone do paper cutting (Scherenschnitte)? A neighbour took a
course and explained the basics to me. Since I was stuck at home with
a cold for a couple days and had bought a knife, I thought I'd give it
a go. Here are pictures of my first two tries:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/sets/72157608480889917/

The first attempt is pretty bad. The second one was a big improvement,
after I learned how to control the knife and remembered how to draft
geometric borders. (Haven't done that since I was around 20, when I
did calligraphy as a hobby.)

Avital

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[lace-chat] Lace earth-moving machines

[Avital]

Admittedly, the subject is related to lace but it would be a bit of a
stretch to post this to the lace list so I'm posting to lace chat.

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/08/25/lacy-steampunk-earth.html

Description: "Artist Wim Delvoye's "Gothic" series features a
collection of beautiful earth-moving equipment that's been
painstakingly laser-cut with ornate, lacy designs."

Not very practical for moving boulders but rather pretty.

Avital

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[lace-chat] Photos of mola I bought at the arts & crafts fair

[Avital]

I've uploaded photos of the mola I bought at the Arts & Crafts Fair
and a description of the process of dismantling the bag. It turned out
to be quite a fine piece of needlework. The scale of the stitching is
mind-boggling. I'm pretty nimble-fingered but I'm not sure I could do
32 chain stitches per inch!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/sets/72157606919855917/


Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] Help needed please

[Avital]

I don't think she saw a different version. Pauline said her handbag
was stolen, so she was relying on her memory. The words aren't the
same but they're close enough.

Avital

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> Woah, that did take effort!   I entered whole lines into Google with quotes,
> but tht wouldn't work in this case because the words weren't teh same.  I
> did think that she had it memorized.  But this is so different that probably
> she saw a different version.
>
> Yours,
> Dora Smith
> Austin, TX
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Re: [lace-chat] Help needed please

[Avital]

That was a tough one to track down (i.e., it took me more than 3
minutes).  It's called The Faith That Moves The Mountains, by Patience
Strong


When you know not where to turn,
stay still, just where you are.
There is something yet to learn.
Be careful lest you jar the threads that
fate is weaving in a patternyou can't see.
Be Passive.

Trust the Hand that works the looms of destiny.
Though it is your wish to set things right
and put things straight,
Choose the wiser way.
Have faith.
With patience watch and wait.
There's a purpose in it all,
as time will surely prove
And when you least expect it,
you will see the mountain move.


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> Dear friends,
>
> I am looking for the inspirational verse called 'The Faith that moved a
> Mountain', it has within it, 'when you know no what to do, stop, stand
> still, just where you are', which I kept for many years, having taken it
> out of an English magazine, and it was in a handbag at the time which
> got stolen.
>
> Sadly I am unsure of the author, I thought it was Helen Steiner Wright,
> and then it maybe Patience Strong.
>

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[lace-chat] Any subscribed to lace-chat but not lace?

[Avital]

Good question, Devon.

I'll ask the people on lace-chat: Do any of you subscribe to lace-chat
or lace-chat-digest and not to lace or lace-digest?

Would be curious to know. Please post to me privately.

Thanks,

Avital

On 6/11/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My impression is that everyone, or virtually everyone, who is on "lace-chat"
> is also on "lace". Many people are on lace who are not on lace-chat, but
> lace-chat is a subset of those on lace. So when there is an announcement of
> something important, an event, let's say, posting on "lace" will catch 100%
> of the people who need to know this bit of news and posting on both lists
> will not expose the message to more people.
>
> Would you say this is correct, Avital?
>
> Devon

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[lace-chat] Admin P.S.

[Avital]

Forgot to add this to my previous gentle reminders list:

Please don't send the same message to both lace and lace-chat. Lace is
for anything related to lace. Lace-chat is for everything else. So
lace is fine for stories about your cat knocking over your lace-pillow
but not for a discussion about your cat's vaccinations. Lace is fine
if you're looking for a lacemaker and can't find a current address or
if you want to comment on a lace-related eBay auction or a
lace-related painting. Lace-chat should be used for jokes, non-lace
topics.

If a lace-related topic veers into chat, then please change it to
lace-chat and only post it there. Things get very confusing when the
same thread is sent to both lists.

Thanks,

Avital

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[lace-chat] Gentle reminders

[Avital]

Dear spiders,

The behind-the-scenes admin duties are starting to consume more of my
time than I would like, so I am sending out this list of gentle
reminders.

1. If you are a digest subscriber, please change the subject heading
to something meaningful when you reply to a message. If you leave the
digest number as the subject, it messes up people's filters and it is
useless for finding the message later in the archives.

2. If you are having trouble unsubscribing, please check the following:
   a. You are sending in PLAIN TEXT.
   b. You are sending the unsubscribe command from the same account
that you want unsubscribed (you'd be amazed by how many people change
their accounts, then try to unsub the old address using the new
account; it just doesn't work that way).
   c. You are unsubscribing from lace if you get individual messages
and from lace-digest if you get the digest. Lace and Lace-Digest work
like two separate lists.

3. If you have tried everything and still can't get yourself
unsubscribed, you can write to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], but
please, please, please tell me which list you are subscribed to. There
are four lists (lace, lace-digest, lace-chat, lace-chat-digest) and it
does take a fair amount of time for me to download four subscription
lists, check for your email (and any number of close aliases --
sometimes people don't know what their actual email address is and use
something close because it works), and then unsubscribe it from that
list. An aside: sometimes I ask people whether they want to be
unsubscribed from lace or lace-digest and I get the reply, "Yes,
please." Duh. 

4. Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone told me
that she couldn't find a message there and thought that it might have
disappeared. Well, mail-archive is free and assuming the principle of
"You get what you pay for" works there, that's what there is. Since
I'm not the list owner I don't have the authority to set up
list-archive software on the server or to tinker with the
majordomo-generated software.

5. Another thought on 'disappearing messages' in the archive. Some of
you send your postings to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message gets posted
because majordomo recognizes both addresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is
actually an alias for the longer address). However, anything addressed
to that email will not appear in the on-line archives because
mail-archive.com has no way of knowing that it's the same list. Same
applies if digest subscribers hit 'reply all' and send to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Everyone will see your message but
mail-archive.com won't save it.

Thanks for bearing with me. We return to our regularly scheduled
program of threads

Best wishes,

Avital
Arachne Moderator

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Re: [lace-chat] Photos of London

[Avital]

I use a Canon PowerShot S5. It's a high-end point-and-shoot and takes
very nice pictures but will let me do what I want. It has a good macro
setting (about a centimeter from the lens) and a 12x optical zoom.
It's 8 megapixels, sells for about $300 in the US (for UK, probably
have to change the $ to a pound sign ). I'm very happy with it.

Avital

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> Can I ask what camera you use? I'm being tempted at the moment by a camera
> that can do 18x optical zoom but also macro for lace.  So  if anyone has any
> experience of a Fuji Finepix S8000fd (or even the very new S8100fd) I'd be
> very interested. It's not a digital SLR but neither is it a compact but it
> ticks most of my boxes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lynne
>
> Baldock, North Herts, UK
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[lace-chat] Back from London, plus pictures

[Avital]

Alice and other spiders,

You're lucky to have found a cheap hotel in London! I got back last
Tuesday and I can say that prices are *very* high, especially if
you're restricted to kosher restaurants. After photographing various
tourist sites, I think I should have photographed menus posted along
Golders Green Road! That would have given friends in Israel quite a
shock. Oh, and vegetable prices. Wow

It was cloudy and overcast the whole time I was in London and
Manchester, but I managed to take some decent photos at night, when
the sky doesn't matter so much. I didn't have a tripod, so all the
photos were done with a hand-held camera. Here's the link:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/sets/72157604170010910/

There are photos of Big Ben, the London Eye, Hampton Court, and St.
Pancras station. The only photo from Manchester that I posted is the
one of the wine glasses on a table. That pretty much sums up my visit
to Manchester, which was a bit dull (unless you're one of those people
who loves meeting lots of strangers you'll never see again and
listening to endless speeches).

Best wishes,

Avital

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[lace-chat] Admin: Moderator going on holiday

[Avital]

Dear spiders,

I'm heading off to England tomorrow morning for a double bar mitzvah
(DH's twin nephews). I've packed clothes for the stormy weather.

Sorry I won't be able to meet up with any Arachnes, but it's going to
be a fast trip. Two days in London to see my sister, then a train to
Manchester on Thursday for the bar mitzvah, back to London on Monday,
and back to Israel on Tuesday. And, no, I'm not worried about someone
reading this email and breaking into my house because it would be
really tough for a stranger to find my address and then to get past
all my watchful neighbours and steel-reinforced front door (required
for insurance purposes).

When I get back I'll straighten out subscription problems, etc., but
until then I will not be checking my email. Have fun while I'm gone!

Best wishes,

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] lonely Birthday

[Avital]

Happy birthday, Dora! I hope you create many more beautiful lace macrame
pieces this year!

Avital

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Re: CC: Re: [lace-chat] mandoline

[Avital]

Ah--didn't see that Ricky sent a CC to the lace-chat list!

I'll just add the following bit that I wrote to Ricky off-line,
omitting the stuff that I wrote in response to Tamara's posting:

>>
It's great for cucumber salads, French fries, scalloped potatoes,
Chinese stir fry vegetables, julienne carrots (where you don't want
them grated), sliced cabbage and sauerkraut (fantastic for that
because you can use half a cabbage or a quarter of a large one!). Be
careful if you're trying to cut a flexible vegetable like bell
peppers. They might get mushed up inside the blade. Good luck!
>>


On 1/29/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Hi Avital,
>
>
>
>  Thanks for your reply. Just dragged it out of the box (again)...Looks like 
> it's a Mafler (made in France, and all the paperwork stuff is in French). I 
> wish I had botten a plastic one -- people have told me they are easier to 
> use, and a great asset, after I bought this oneIt's beautiful to look at, 
> when I take it out of the box, BUTI guess the blades scare me too much - 
> they are indeed razor sharp. I'm afraid to lose a finger if I play with it 
> too much. Or at least, I need to be more sure of what I'm trying to do, and 
> how to do it, to minimize that risk!
>
>
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Ricky
>

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: mandoline

[Avital]

Ricky wrote to me off-line, so I sent her a link to a guide in English
for her mandolin and some tips on using it. It's a really nice one, a
Matfer. Here's the link if you want to have a look at it.
http://www.fantes.com/matfer_mandolin.htm

Basically, a food processor will do almost everything a mandolin will
do but a mandolin can handle much larger pieces of food (e.g., whole
onion, half a cabbage, large potato), so there's less food prep
involved. When I want to chop up vegetables really fast for soup
before I rush off to work, I get out the mandolin and a small knife or
peeler, prepare the veggies, chop on the mandolin, then rinse the
mandolin parts under hot water and I'm done. Clean-up of a mandolin is
also much faster than with a food processor.

But a mandolin has to be treated with respect or you can lose a
finger. Seriously.  They're very sharp. I bought my first Borner for
about $10 when I was a student and couldn't afford a food processor.
Even after I got a food processor, I kept the mandolin for fast jobs
and I've only just replaced my mandolin with another Borner (now
they're about $20). The old mandolin was still functional but the
blades were getting a little dull. They take up very little space. If
it weren't for the fact that they can be quite dangerous, I would
recommend them for everyone, but you really don't want to let kids or
inattentive cooks use them. A friend bought a Borner and said that all
her kids (they're adults, BTW) call it the 'finger slicer' and refuse
to use it.

Avital

On 1/29/08, Tamara P Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 28, 2008, at 23:40, Avital wrote:
>
> > I use mine mainly for slicing or julienning vegetables.
>
> Aaaah... Thanks! I was puzzled by Ricki's question (stainless steel???
> Blades???), because the only "mandoline" I know is an instrument
> (wooden, with strings)... :)
>
> There's, of course, "Mezza Mandolina"... but lace seemed to be an even
> less likely answer to the "stainless steel" and "blades" question, not
> to mention that everyone knows how to use lace :)
> --
> Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
> Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
>

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Re: [lace-chat] mandoline

[Avital]

What brand do you have? I have a Borner (plastic with metal blades --
definitely one of the cheap models) and I love it. They all work
pretty much the same way. You must be zealous about using the hand
guard because any mandoline can give you really nasty cuts. I use mine
mainly for slicing or julienning vegetables.

Avital

On Jan 29, 2008 5:49 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have a mandoline, and know how to use it? I bought a beautiful, 
> nice stainless steel one years ago, in a fit of wanna-be-martha-stewart, but 
> have never gotten the hang of setting it up, putting the blades in, and using 
> it. Does anyone have any tips or suggestions that might help me actually make 
> use of my investment?
>
>
>
> All thumbs, suffering from buyer's remorse,
>
>
>
> Ricki in Utah

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[lace-chat] Photos I took

[Avital]

Hi, spiders,

I got a new camera last week so that I could take a photography course
at work. So far I've had one lesson, but it inspired me to drag my new
camera out in the evenings.

I took this one as an experiment in how light affects a camera at
night. The light in this photo was orange and white but the camera
brings out the blue and green tones of the fluorescent and mercury
vapour lights.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/2148787266/

And here's one I took of the moon. It's not artistic at all, just a
challenge to produce something that didn't look like a fuzzy pingpong
ball.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/2138398939/

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] instant yeast

[Avital]

On 12/5/07, Joy Beeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Using more yeast will make the bread rise faster -- it rises
> faster the second time because there is more yeast in it.

Zapping for 10 seconds (and 10 seconds only) will also speed the
rising. So will putting it into a warm oven.

Personally, I've stopped using commercial yeast. I've been baking
solely with my homemade sourdough starter (just flour and water and
whatever wild yeast is floating around), which I've had for about 5
years now. The bread itself is just flour, water, and salt. Because
there's no fat, it does go stale slightly faster than loaves with fat,
but it seems to keep almost forever! I've sometimes found forgotten
half-loaves in the back of the fridge that were 3 weeks old and they
were just fine.

Avital

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[lace-chat] Admin: political jokes

[Avital]

You are correct, but there is also a 'gentleman's agreement' to tread
carefully in areas such as politics because it causes ill feeling on
the lace-chat list.

Please, everyone, pull your claws in and try to exercise some tact and
sensitivity. We know that there are different political views
represented on both lace and lace-chat. A joke that could be
interpreted as a kick in the teeth to someone else isn't really
appropriate on this list.

Thank-you,

Avital
Arachne moderator


On 10/18/07, madame RD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi everybody
>
> lace-chat is devoted to everything but lace actually ...  or so i
> thought .. ;-)
> dominique from Pari

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: "Buddy" map

[Avital]

LOL! Miriam Gidron says that you can see the roof tiles of her place
with Google Earth.

Avital

> On 10/4/07 12:59 PM, Avital wrote:
>
> > . . . . Also, the Google satellite photos are
> > not nearly as detailed as for other parts of the world,
> > . . .
>
> Perhaps that's *because* they have an office in Tel Aviv.
>
> --
> Joy "you can see my pickup truck" Beeson

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[lace-chat] Moderator off-line until Sat pm

[Avital]

Gentle spiders,

I will be offline from a few minutes from now until Saturday evening after
sundown, for the two days of Rosh Hashana (Jewish New Year) followed by
Shabbat/Sabbath. So if you want to flame each other with gleeful abandon, now's
your chance! Just kidding.  Have fun while I'm gone.

And for those who are celebrating, le-shanah tovah tekhatevu vetechatemu.

Best wishes,

Avital

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RE: [lace-chat] tatting kit

[Avital]

Yes, some of the tools are netting implements. I see a netting shuttle and
gauges. They're rather coarse and wouldn't be suitable for lace. I'm not sure
what the things that look like awls with wooden handles are for. The bit of
'display lace' looks like Coronation cord with crochet. It would be quite a feat
to produce that with netting equipment.

Avital


> Here is something different that is a 'tatting kit'.
> Could it be for netting?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-VICTORIAN-CRAFT-LACEMAKING-TATTING-KIT_W0Q
> QitemZ180035324157
>
>
> Alice in Oregon

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RE: [lace-chat] Gender of names

[Avital]

Re: Leslie/Lesley. It may be a generation/regional thing. When I was a child in
southern Ontario in the 60s, in my pre-Avital incarnation, kids would say to me,
"'Leslie'? That's a *boy's* name!" Yet, in the 70s, my high school phys ed class
had *four* female Leslies. In fact I don't think I ever knew a "Lesley."

Re: first names. A linguistics prof/friend whose area of expertise was language
and gender told me that once a name is used for females, it tends to die out for
males. That certainly holds for Valery, Hillary (and variants), Julian, and
others. Or maybe it only holds for old Roman names.  I've
noticed the same in Hebrew names. It's becoming increasingly common for girls to
have formerly male names like Daniel (probably spelled Danielle in English) and
Ariel (despite the Little Mermaid, Ariel is predominantly a man's name in
Israel). We also have a whole slew of unisex names like Simcha, Sima, Sharon
(yes!), and Dror. Mind you, the choice of Hebrew women's names is far smaller
than men's (no surprise when you read the Bible or Talmud), so a lot of the
women's names are modern names derived from flowers or stones.

My sister is named Tacey, from the Latin "tacere" (now there's a misnomer). When
we were young, she could never find personalized stationery, placemats, or name
plates, which are important to little girls. I once told her that I'd read in
the paper that people with unusual names have a greater chance of ending up in
prison. We're still on speaking terms. 

As for Ms/Mrs, I'm glad that Hebrew has only one form of address (geveret) for
women and it doesn't indicate anything about marital status, so we've been
spared that battle. Israel is a fairly informal society, so I use my first name
for most contexts and "Dr." (PhD) only in academic settings, where pecking rank
becomes important. I once told my doctor to call me Mrs. Pinnick when he did the
"Me, doctor. You, Jane" routine, but that's an exception. I was feeling
irritable that day. ;-)

Avital
in Maale Adumim, Israel

> -Original Message-
> From: Martha Krieg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I agree with you about Marion/Marian - but my female cousin Leslie
> would be surprised!  I don't know that there are many male Leslies in
> the US; I think all the females I've known have been Leslie.>

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RE: [lace-chat] Surnames

[Avital]

I guess I've been in Israel too long. I'd forgotten the first pronunciation! My
sister's oldest daughter is called Sarah and they live in England. I'd better
start practicing saying "Sair-ah" now so that I won't mangle the name when Tacey
comes over for the bar mitzvah.

Avital

> S-air-a   and S-ar-a
> Sarah Sara
>
> That's the (usual) English way of pronouncing it.
>
> Brenda>

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RE: [lace-chat] Surnames

[Avital]

What's the difference in pronunciation between Sarah and Sara?

Avital

Brenda Paternoster wrote:
> was just Christian names - and only the first ones, the priest couldn't 
> cope with a whole string of names for Andrew and he struggled with 
> Sarah, pronouncing it as Sara.  Having said that he actually did 

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RE: [lace-chat] a question about surname

[Avital]

I asked my husband, who's English, and he said, "Why would anyone want to
advertise the fact?" ;-)

Avital

> That's true, but historically, a double barrelled name is more likely
> to have come about through an illegitimate child using both parents
> names.
>
> Brenda
> http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/

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RE: [lace-chat] DVD's for UK

[Avital]

Australia is region 4. But there are various 'hacks' available. I work in
pay-TV, so it's not hard for me to find someone to hack a player, if I happened
to own one. If you know someone who's fairly geeky, then you could try asking.
For PCs, it's fairly easy to find a program to convert the DVD player to
multi-region. For TV DVD players, it depends on the manufacturer.

If you're giving people DVDs in other countries, you could always order from the
Amazon of their country. When I used to be able to play only Region 2 DVDs, I
ordered mainly from Amazon.co.uk. If you're giving to someone in the US, you can
order just about anything from Amazon.com and it will work. For Europe, order
from Amazon.co.uk.

Avital

> Avital - do you know, by any chance - what region Australia is in?
>
> Sending/receiving DVDs is another gift idea - and a good one - If they work
> at the other end!!
> I did not know about the regions and DVDs being regional.   I knew TV and
> Videos were, but had not thought about DVDs.
>
> Regards from Liz in Melbourne,Oz
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [lace-chat] DVD's for UK

[Avital]

Oh, right. I assumed you were using a commercial movie format. If you're using a
PC movie format like wma and burning it to a DVD, then you're right. You can use
anything. PCs have no regions (unlike DVD players).

Avital


> > What you do need to worry about is the DVD region format. North America
> > is region 1, while UK, Europe, and Middle East are region 2. Playing a
>
> I think this is for the commercially sold DVDs, as in movies. If we make a
> DVD on our computer, it should be playable on another computer, anywhere
> in the world, as long as the respective software is compatible (if new
> enough, it should be).
> I received one from an e-friend in the UK, and viewed it using my
> picture-viewing prgram (Irfanview) not the media player.
> I and my computer are in Canada :)
>
> > > I want to get a DVD made from a Video to send to the UK.
> > >
> > > What I need to know is whether a DVD made in Canada work on a
> > > computer in the
> >
>
>
> Bev in Sooke BC (west coast of Canada)
>

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RE: [lace-chat] Sudoku (again)

[Avital]

I did think about it and came to the same conclusion as you. I was going to post
it but you beat me to it. ;-) Also, I did an extremely easy Sudoku today while
in the middle of cooking and realised that knowing that numbers split up (2 go
one way and the third goes the other way) does not help in solving the puzzle.

going offline for the last day of Passover

Avital

Sue Babbs wrote:
> Thinking about it:
> if the 3 5 and 6 are in the top row of the first block
> then they can't be in the top row of the second block
> or the top row of the third block.
>
> Taking the second block first:
> 3,5 & 6 can be positioned so that
> all are in the second row
>
> or they can be split so that one of them is in the second row and two in the
> third row
>
> or 2 of them in the second row and one of them in the third row
>
> or all are in the third row.
>
> Similarly with the third block (but with more restrictions based on what has
> happened in the second block).
>
> So, yes, it is inevitable that at least 2 of them will stay together in each
> of the second and third blocks, because there aren't enough rows to spread
> them any other way.
> Sue
> >

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RE: [lace-chat] Sudoku (again)

[Avital]

Very interesting! I had a quick look at some Sudoku solutions and I think you
may be right. Thanks!

Best wishes,

Avital

Susan Webster wrote:
> By studying solutions (and frankly looking for some trick), I have
> discovered an “ugly” little truth that may or may not be well known (but
> in the event it is not, I thought I would share it here).
>
> Consider a 3-row block which consists of 27 little squares (within the
> bold separators) – it happens that numbers travel together.  What I mean
> is that if, for example, the first 3 numbers across are 3 5 6, then you
> can be sure that at least two of them will move across the 3-row block
> together.   That is, the 3 and the 5  OR the 3 and the 6 OR the 5 and
> the 6 will appear in the same 3-square block in the rest of the section.
> They may not be in the same order, or they have a separator between
> them, but they will both be in the same little 3-square section across
> those 27 squares.
>
> In the puzzle I have just finished, the top 3 rows are as follows:
>
> 3 5 6 4 9 7 2 8 1
> 9 2 1 5 6 8 4 3 7
> 4 8 7 1 3 2 5 6 9
> 

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RE: [lace-chat] WD40

[Avital]

Thanks, everyone who told me about WD-40. It does sound very useful. Now that I
think of it, someone did send me an e-mail years ago: "If it moves and it
shouldn't, use duct tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40." I think
she recommended duct tape for my DS, although this morning, after the time
change, I think WD-40 would be more appropriate.

It's pouring outside. Mom, do I have to go to work today???

Avital,
woken at 3:00 a.m. by one of the loudest thunderstorms we've had in months

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RE: [lace-chat] Moderator ruling

[Avital]

The moderator is back. As Jane mentioned, I don't check the computer during
Shabbat (Friday just before sundown to Saturday after sundown), so if you want
to flame each other with wild abandon, you picked the right time! I've skimmed
through the political messages, but I'm not going to read them in detail. Have
you all gotten this off your chests? Do you think we could get back to less
emotionally touchy subjects? This is a nice group and it would be a shame to
lose members because of political differences.

And can someone please tell me what WD-40 is?

Best wishes,

Avital
Arachne Moderator

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[lace-chat] Finally leaving the nursing home

[Avital]

Those of you who inadvertently posted about the nursing home before seeing my
message, please don't worry about it. There's always some overlap. BTW, I didn't
actually 'ban' the topic. I just said to end this thread, i.e., the flaming. If
someone wants to talk in a civilized manner about nursing homes and Virginia,
then I guess lace-chat would be the place to do it.

Suzy is no longer a subscriber to this list. Brenda, are you in charge of the
Secret Pals? You'll have to notify her secret pal. Thanks.

Best wishes,

Avital
Arachne moderator

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RE: [lace-chat] I'm wrong!

[Avital]

LOL! Never mind. You had a good excuse if you were going through red and white
wine and bourbon in the same meal. It sounds as though you had a merry time!

Avital

> Forgive me!! I was a bit out of my clear-thinking element when I wrote the
> message below yesterday.  We couldn't decide if red or white wine would go
> better with Christmas dinner, and since no one under 18 was present, we had
> both.  And, the egg nog-well-fortified-with-bourbon certainly did not add to
> my clear thinking!
> "Blessing someone's heart" certainly *does not* conform to "Taking the
> Mickey" out of anyone. Taking the wind out of their sails *would* however.
>
> Sorry for the boozey answer,
> Betty Ann in Roanoke Virginia USA
>

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RE: [lace-chat] Expressions

[Avital]

Hmmm. Maybe Clive uses it in a different sense from what I've heard. Also, I
can't imagine how the expression would be used. Would Clive say, for example, "I
called her an ugly cow, but she just smiled because she knew I was just taking
the mickey out of her" (i.e., "She knew I didn't really mean it because I
followed it with 'bless your heart'")?

At our local clinic, the new doctor in town hung up his umpteen medical
certificates, including his Harvard diploma, in the hall on the way to his
office. This was considered a tad pretentious because the other doctors had
theirs in their offices. The English receptionist told me that she took the
mickey out of the doctor's equally pretentious wife by saying, "Have you ever
seen all these certificates before?" The American woman rose to the bait by
getting huffy and said, "Of course, I have!" It was not meant to be an endearing
softening of an insult. She was just pulling Mrs. Harvard Medical School's leg.

I've heard "taking the piss" out of someone as a synonym for "taking the mickey"
and I think both expressions mean pulling someone's leg to deflate them, like
pricking a balloon to let out the hot air. One does this to bring someone down a
notch or two.

Maybe one of the English Arachnes could clarify the definition as soon as you
folks recover from your Christmas pudding, wassail bowls, and King's College
Choir marathons. And you'll have to tell us what the Queen wore this year during
her annual address! ;-)

Best wishes,

Avital

> Taking the Mickey out of anyone is sort of "Bless Her/His Heart"  Say
> anything you want as long as you bless hearts.  Example, "Bless her heart,
> she's so fat she can't fit in the church pew!"  or "Her green bean casserole
> tastes like it was made last week, bless her heart." Or, "Lord only knows,
> bless her heart, she can't carry a tune in a gallon bucket!"  Since FH Clive
> is English, I am familiar with taking the mickey out of someone, so blessing
> hearts is a comparable expression in the South - maybe not North of the
> Potomac...
>
> Merry Christmas to All
> Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA>

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RE: [lace-chat] Printing wide pages

[Avital]

That's very common if one is trying to print on A4 paper from Web sites that
think the entire world uses American 'letter size' paper. ;-) Or it might just
be incompetent Web design.

There are a number of ways to do this, but this is the simplest.

1. In the browser, choose Page Setup from the File menu.
2. Check the Landscape option.
3. Click OK. Now her pages will print width-wise on the paper instead of
lengthwise.

It is important to change the Page Setup back to Portrait. If you don't,
everything you print will be arranged sideways.

If this doesn't work, write to me privately and send me the URL. I'll see
whether I can come up with a solution.

Best wishes,

Avital

> -Original Message-
> She is trying to print a page from a web site with no printer-friendly page
> option.  She has found it is cutting off the last word and a bit from the RH
> end of the lines.  She's tried moving out the margins, copying it
> first into a
> document then printing, highlighting then printing the selection - in fact
> everything we can think of with our collective brains.
>
> So, how is it done, or is this a ploy to stop you printing off information.
>
> Many thanks, Jacquie
>

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[lace-chat] admin: new moderator address

[Avital]

Dear spiders,

At Jeri's suggestion I am finally setting up a new arachne moderator address.
It's [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Best wishes,

Avital
Arachne moderator

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[lace-chat] Admin: Trimming messages

[Avital]

Hi, Arachnes,

Just a gentle reminder to trim quoted messages, please. Thank-you.

Avital
Arachne moderator

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RE: [lace-chat] Harry Potter

[Avital]

That's Voldemort.

Avital

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hi All!
> I finished Harry Potter, in fact, I've read it twice, I read really fast  the
> first time just to find out what happened, then I go back to catch what I
> missed.
> Some of the stuff was predictable, I'm not saying what, for those who
> haven't been able to pry the book out of their DO (Dear Other)'s
> hand.  I  do have a
> guess for the last book.  I bet we find out that the main reason  that Snape
> hates Harry isn't for what James, his father, did, I bet it's because  Snape
> was in love with Lily.  That's the only thing that I can see that
> makes sense.
>  His price for going to the dark side was that Voldemont has  to kill James,
> but not Lily.  When Voldemont does kill Lily, that's when  Snape becomes the
> double agent.  Does that make sense to anyone else, or is  it just really
> obvious?
> Sigh,
> JoAnne Pruitt
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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[lace-chat] Looking for photo archive boxes in UK

[Avital]

UK Arachnes (esp. in Manchester area),

Does anyone know where I can get acid-free photo archive boxes (5x7") in the UK?
My husband's nieces from Manchester are coming to Israel in a couple weeks and
would be able to bring something light. I've tried googling but found only
manufacturers like Pel. I haven't found any sources that allow on-line ordering.

Thanks,

Avital

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RE: [lace-chat] dangers of giving address

[Avital]

Helene wrote:
> please relax, I don't think anyone in the lacemaking world has got time to go

And I think that someone looking for victims on a list of primarily older women
would be more interested in our money than our bodies. ;-)

> they are. I don't think you've ever seen my full name, have you? I

Your name isn't "Helen Gannac"? That's what appears in all your e-mail headers.
I presumed that your username (albigeoise or something like that) was your
maiden name.

> I would say the chance of anyone being killed in a road accident is a lot more
> likely that being killed in a terrorist attack!! Many more people die

That's how many of us in Israel feel. Statistically, far more people die in car
accidents in Israel than in terrorist attacks. But my SIL is sending her
daughters to Israel for a couple weeks and wants us to take cabs everywhere,
instead of buses. "Um, Mandy, have you ever seen how some of those Israeli taxi
drivers drive? Like they're competing for the bobsled events in the
Olympics" You're a lot more likely to survive a bus accident than a taxi
accident on the highway. I've only heard of a couple bus accidents in all the
years I've lived here, and they were mainly on the long road to Eilat, where
drivers sometimes fall asleep late at night.

Avital

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RE: [lace-chat] fried green tomatoes/ peanut butter

[Avital]

Reese's Peanut Butter Cups! Yes, we can get them here and they're kosher. DH
buys them quite often. They're the only sweet thing I will eat willingly,
probably because they also have so much salt in them. I don't have much of a
sweet tooth and chocolate goes moldy around me.  We also have the Reese's
Pieces and something else that came to Israel recently. A friend described it as
a chip version of the peanut butter cups. Carol, should I send you a care
package? ;-)

Avital,
amazed to find something in Israel that's not in the UK, but my English DH says
he's never seen Reese's there

> From: Carol Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> I am just drooling, thinking of those lovely American chocolate sweets -
> like a little cup of chocolate, and filled with peanut butter.   I could
> become addicted very easily - I just can't find them over here now ...
>
> Carol - in Suffolk UK

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Re: [lace-chat] Is this correct?

[Avital]

That depends what you mean by "correct." The piece you quoted is an editorial 
written by a free-lance writer named Jonathan Wheeler. 

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=72546;title=APFN 

It's fairly widespread on the Internet (more on fringe sites than mainstream 
news sites), so it's difficult to tell how accurate his valuation of the bill 
is. I think CNN gives a better summary of the US Intelligence Reform Bill:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/08/intelligence.key.facts/

Avital


> Sorry to raise something political, but DH had this sent to him yesterday.
> Knowing that what the US does, the UK usually follows (year grades in
> schools, SATS, etc), is this correct? As part of our tightened security
> since 9/11 passports have to be produced for internal air travel here, which
> means that, not having been outside the UK since 1959 and therefore not
> having had need of a passport, currently I can't fly from Bournemouth to
> London, but then it is only 60 odd miles.
> 
>  Nazi regime of Adolph Hitler, the United States Congress passed legislation
> yesterday that requires the States to surrender their regulatory rights over
> driver's licenses and birth certificates to The Department of Homeland
> Security.
> The massive US Intelligence Reform Bill weighed in at over 3,000 pages and
> though unread by individual Members of either the House or Senate
> nevertheless passed all of the legislative hurdles needed in order to become
> law.
> 

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Re: Re: [lace-chat] Looking for dust ruffles in the UK

[Avital]

Thanks very much! I was wondering whether it might be a terminology problem. 
I'll try some of the links you and Jenny sent me.

Best wishes,

Avital

> Hi Avital - I think it might be a terminology problem. Here in the UK they 
> are called Valence(d) sheets and are usually a fitted sheet with the ruffle
> attached. They come in single, double and king size usually. Try 
> www.argos.co.uk - they have plenty, as do most of the chain stores here 
> (Littlewoods,
> BHS, John Lewis etc) You can fit them semi-permanently onto the sprung base 
> of the bed and use a separate sheet for the mattress.
> 
> ttfn Jacqui
> 
> Jacqui Southworth, Fleetwood, Lancs, England
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> NEW *** Christmas 2004 bobbin ***
> Larkholme Lace - Bobbin Lace Supplies, painted bobbins and tools,books
> www.larkholmelace.co.uk

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[lace-chat] Looking for dust ruffles in the UK

[Avital]

Dear Spiders,

At long last I'm back on-line. My home computer was gone for nearly a month,
supposedly having its hard drive replaced. When the technician finally
showed up, he brought me a new computer and confessed that the old one had
been stolen from his car the night after he picked it up. He'd been hoping
that it would 'turn up' somewhere. They must have very considerate burglars
in Beitar. Oh, well, since I was prepared for HD failure and had backups of
everything, I wasn't heartbroken to have a new computer with a larger (80G)
hard drive.

DH will be going to England for a short visit in 3 weeks. I'd like to order
dust ruffles (aka bed skirts, those flouncy things that cover the box
springs of a bed) over the Internet to be delivered to his sister in
Manchester. I'm getting nowhere with Google (it just turns up those Web
directory sites and I have no way of knowing whether I'm dealing with a real
business). I've tried Marks&Spencer's site but they only sell more common
items like sheets, duvet covers, etc. Do any UK Arachnes have suggestions?

TIA,

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] Computer help please

[Avital]

GIF files have fewer colours than BMP files. That's one of the reasons that
GIF files are good for compression, but they're better for very simple
designs, like logos. If you're saving something like a photo, with lots of
colour gradations, you will lose a lot of colour definition. It's better to
save them as JPGs. Also, if you're only sending them by e-mail or uploading
them to a Web site, you don't need a resolution higher than 72 dpi. Pictures
directly from a digital camera have a much higher resolution and should be
converted to a lower resolution before you send them to everyone in your
addressbook!

Best wishes,

Avital

- Original Message -
From: "Malvary Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Chat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Computer help please


Jean Nathan wrote:  not many of them know how to convert a .bmp files into a
.gif or .jpeg

I must add my comment here - I don't know how to do it successfully.  So if
someone can help I'd appreciate it.  I seem to lose colour/definition when
I've
tried re-saving .bmp files as .gif.  If anyone knows how to guarantee
success
every time I'd really like to know.

Thanks in advance

Malvary in Ottawa, where we have a gorgeous day and all the maple trees are
turning all shades of red and orange (exept the one in my garden that just
seems
to go yucky yellow and then throw all its leaves on my garden in disgust).

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Re: [lace-chat] joining up Yahoo

[Avital]

Jean, most of these problems sound like they're a result of the Yahoo groups he 
belongs to. It's true that some send enormous files (if the moderator has configured 
the list so that attachments are allowed) and that some accounts will get start 
bouncing. 

Liz, I've had my free Yahoo account for years and been satisfied with it. I use it as 
my "throwaway address", to keep spam off my regular account and as the address that 
appears on my Web site.

You mentioned the greetings. There is a caveat--in the past all the greetings were 
free for Yahoo users. Now you have to make sure that the greeting card actually says 
"Free." If it doesn't say free, then you can sign up for a 30-day trial membership 
with AmericanGreetings.com. The yearly membership costs $13, so I don't bother 
subscribing to that. You still get a reasonable choice of free greetings to send but 
not nearly as many as when they were all free.

Other pluses of the Yahoo membership are an on-line calendar (reminds me to make 
backups at the end of every month or to defrost meet on Wednesday), backups of all my 
bookmarks, and RSS feed from my favourite blogs. There are some blogs I like to follow 
but I don't have time to click to each one every few days to see if there have been 
changes. With the RSS feed, I can add the blogs to my "My Yahoo" page and see 
instantly what's changed, all on one page.

If I were to travel a lot I'd use my Yahoo account more, because you can access it 
from any computer connected to the Internet. So far I haven't had any problems with 
the Yahoo account. The basic account with 100M storage is free. Yahoo accounts do tend 
to get spammed, but 95% of the spam goes into the bulk mail folder, which is 
automatically deleted every month or so, so I never see it.

Avital

Jean wrote:
> DH belongs to four Yahoo groups, so has an "account", which is free. For
> unknown reasons, he keeps getting messages to him bounced. He knows this has
> happened because he gets no messages instead of the usual 40, 60  or so, and
> and a while later he gets an email from Yahoo saying he's been bouncing and

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Re: [lace-chat] Fwd: T-shirts

[Avital]

For cleaning e-mails when forwarding messages to chat, I love ecleaner (sorry, Tamara, 
PC only). It's free, reliable, and very easy to use (just click on the smiley face). 
You can download it from http://ecleaner.tripod.com/. It was a lifesaver when I used 
to edit an e-newsletter and had to clean up all sorts of stuff in order to get a clean 
text. It does pretty much the same as Jean's recommendations, as well as cleaning up 
HTML.

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] chat digests

[Avital]

Digest #150 just came out, so you haven't missed anything. Believe it or
not, there are far fewer chat digests than lace digests, roughly one
lace-chat digest for every four lace digests. If you are concerned that you
have missed a digest, go
to the archives (http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and see
whether there are recent messages that you haven't seen.

Best wishes,

Avital

- Original Message -
From: "Helen Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 5:45 PM
Subject: [lace-chat] chat digests


OK,  has anyone seen any chat digests since #149?  I know it's been
quiet this week with the Conventioneers gone, but I've seen nothing
since about the 3rd or 4th.

Just checking to see if there's anyone still out there.

Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in summery Denver, where it appears Fall may be coming
early this year, as I see some leaves beginning to change colour.

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[lace-chat] Our cows were lions

[Avital]

Same thing in Jerusalem, except that instead of cows or moose, we had lions
decorated by artists. Since they get moved around from time to time, my kid
likes spotting lions in new places.

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] Tatting to dream of

[Avital]

Wow--someone put a lot of work into this piece! Probably made by more than
one person.

Yes, the thickened chains have crochet along the picots. It's very common in
Asian-made pieces. I have a couple examples at home and once posted some
closeups to my Web site for Arachnes to see.

Avital

- Original Message -

> Tatters -- did you ever dream of making a bedspread?  Look at this one.
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=63626&item=3730388056
&rd=1
>
> Does this have some crochet along with the tatting?  I recognize parts of
> this but some of it doesn't quite look like tatting.
>
> Eye candy --anyway.
> Alice in Oregon

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[lace-chat] Arachne FAQ - version 1.0

[Avital]

Dear Spiders,

Here is a first draft of the Arachne FAQ. Feedback and corrections are
welcome! Let me know if I've missed anything or if something should be
written more clearly for non-English speakers. Thanks.

I could send this out on a quarterly basis if this is of any use.

Best wishes,

Avital

>>>

ARACHNE FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
Version 1.0 (17 June 2004)

1. I just came back from vacation and want to read what I missed. Where are
the archives?

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2. I haven't received a digest for two days. What should I do?

Go to the archives (see above). You can view the messages by date. If you
see a lot of messages that you haven't seen before, then you are probably
missing a digest. Remember that the digest does not appear every day. The
list is configured to send out a digest when 22K (about a dozen) messages
accumulate. If the list is quiet, you might not see a digest for a day or
two.

3. I checked the archives and definitely missed a digest. Where can I get
it?

E-mail Avital, the moderator, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (take the
"nospam" out of the e-mail address). I keep backups on CDs. Occasionally I
miss a digest, but my collection is fairly complete.

4. What are SPs (Secret Pals)?

Secret Pals are a monthly gift swap. The current coordinator is Brenda
Paternoster. E-mail her at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (take the
"nospam" out of the e-mail address) if you want to participate.

5. How do I thank my Secret Pal?

Send your thank-you note to lace-chat, not lace. If you are not subscribed
to lace-chat, then you must type "SP Thanks" (exactly as spelled, with same
capitalization) in the subject line. That should allow non-subscribers to
post their messages to lace-chat.

6. Who runs the list?

Liz is the list owner and I am the moderator. I take care of the day-to-day
business.

7. I just got a virus from Arachne. Should I send a warning to the list?

No, you shouldn't. What you got is a virus from someone else who has Arachne
in their addressbook and makes the "sender" look like Arachne. Arachne is a
majordomo list on unix machines and is currently not affected by viruses.

8. I just got a virus warning from my brother-in-law's best friend's
ex-wife's boss, who used to work for Microsoft and plays golf with Bill
Gates. Should I send it to the list?

No, you shouldn't. Even "reputable sources" and computer experts slip up and
there are a lot of viruses hoaxes floating around. Check it first at
http://www.symantec.com or http://www.snopes.com or ask me to check it out.

9. Are the archives private?

No, they're not. Mail-Archive is a free service and you get what you pay
for. They are able to disguise the addresses so you won't be spammed, but
it's best not to post personal details to the list like your address and
phone number.

10. I'm going on vacation. What should I do?

You should unsubscribe. The list does not have a "no-mail" option. If your
account gets full and starts bouncing, Liz will ignore it for a few days. If
your account bounces for more than a few days, then she will unsubscribe
you.

11. I just sent a digest by accident to the list. Should I unsubscribe,
change my name, and move to a place where no one knows me?

Relax. The list will not accept a message as large as a digest. It will
probably bounce to me and I'll trim the digest.

12. What's the rule about advertising?

Generally, we discourage advertising by professional vendors because that
would greatly increase the volume of the list. It is okay for a vendor to
say "Hi, we have blue matte contact paper" if someone asks for it. It is
okay if you want to sell your extra bobbins and pillows or announce that
your guild has a book or pattern for sale, because those are one-off
announcements. What we want to avoid are messages like "This month's thread
special is xxx and I just got the following 18 new books and I accept Visa,
etc., etc."
Announcements in sigs are perfectly okay as long as the length of the sig
isn't excessive (if the sig contains 3 pages of advertising, then that
defeats the purpose of this rule).

13. How can I be a model of good Net behaviour?

Trim quotes: Remember that most of us have pretty good memories and it is
usually not necessary to quote more than a few lines of the posting to which
you are responding.

Use meaningful subject lines: If you are a digest subscriber, change the
subject line to something meaningful, instead of the number of the digest.

Stay on topic: If it's lace-related (including lace you may have seen on
vacation), it's okay to post it to lace. If it's a joke, recipe, description
of your daughter's wedding, your reaction to a political figure, a movie, or
a TV show, then it probably belongs on lace-chat.

Please do not se

Re: [lace-chat] Sound bites

[Avital]

I think it should have been "Ich bin Berliner." Same word, but if you put
the article in front, it has a different connotation. Sort of like the
difference between saying "I am Danish" and "I am a Danish."

Avital,
whose eight languages are very rusty

- Original Message -
From: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


One of our TV shows is discussing 'soundbites' - the short, sometimes witty,
"memorable" things politicians say. One mentioned was John F Kennedy saying
"Ich bin ein Berliner", hopefully meaning "I am a Berliner", but what he
actually said was "I am a dougnut". Not speaking German, can any of you who
do tell me what he should have said - I gather it's got something to do with
the grammar or the real German word for a "Berliner", like a "Londoner".

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace-chat] Spam

[Avital]

Yvonne and others,

Does your address appear on any Web pages? One of my addresses, my old
university address, was grabbed by spammers from LaRae's Locate-a-Lacemaker
page. I didn't know it was there as a clickable link (those are very easy
for spammers to grab automatically), but when I found it I asked LaRae to
replace it with my Yahoo account, where I don't care about the spam because
it goes straight into a "bulk mail" folder and then into trash. That account
does get spam like you describe, targeted at lacemakers.

Also, do you belong to a guild or fiber-related organization? Some guild
sites put up their members addresses and don't tell them about it. That can
also lead to spam if the Web designer doesn't insert spaces or other
spam-foiling things to disguise the address.

On the topic of avoiding general spam, I strongly recommend that everyone
get a yahoo account to use when you need to provide your e-mail address for
some reason. Try not to use your personal home account for anything but
personal mail and trusted lists. For registering for downloads, registering
to read on-line newsletters, filling out surveys, playing games, use an
address that you don't care about. Remember to check it from time to time
and throw out all the junk. Also, if you register for a site and they have
to send you a password, use your "throwaway" account and remember to check
it for the automatic e-mail they send you.

I should add that one should be cautious when writing to businesses and
strangers. A friend of mine wrote to Leisure Arts to find a place where she
could buy some of their patterns. She never got a reply, but she noticed a
significant increase in craft-related spam.

Best wishes,

Avital,
who's had almost no spam for three years

- Original Message -
Hi all,

I don't usually get spam through on my email but one came through today and
I was wondering if anyone else got it. Something about buying embroidery
from Asia. I thought it may have picked up tatters or lacers addys. I don't
really appreciate these sellers hijacking lackmakers or tatters private
emails. Very poor form.

Cheers, Yvonne

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Re: [lace-chat] customs (lace-chat)

[Avital]

Please, Arachnes, let's not have a discussion on the merits and faults of
the American tax structure and health services. It's not a simple issue and
it gets people worked up for no good purpose. Helene, I'd appreciate it if
you tone down your language a little.

Thanks,

Avital
Moderator

- Original Message -
From: "Helene Gannac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello, Devon,

Well, I think your tax structure stinks! You don't tax people "as if". I
can't believe that the nation that prides itself on being more democratic
than anyone else has come up sith such ideas!!! (I don't think much of
your health services, either) In both cases, the people who work there are
not to blame, it's the bureaucracy that's crazy

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Re: [lace-chat] Witches

[Avital]

What a cool family history! I read about the Lancashire witches when I was a
teenager.

Best wishes,

Avital

- Original Message -
From: "Joan Whitfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Malvary, I can also claim a weird family history - one of my ancestors was
reputedly a witch.  The UK arachnes may have heard about the Pendle witches
in Lancashire; my ancestor was Alice Nutter who met an untimely end.  I've
read various versions - hanged in Lancaster, burnt at the stake but

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: evacuation

[Avital Pinnick]

Living in Jerusalem, I've been around real bombs a couple times, usually when they've 
been detected and detonated. I haven't been in the vicinity during a real bomb attack, 
although I think Miriam was around when the refrigerator bomb went off in Zion Square 
in the 70s. We had a suicide bomber on our bus line once (I wasn't on the bus at the 
time). Fortunately, he was caught before he blew himself up.

Avital

> British citizens I have, in the past, been evacuated from the university, 
> theatre, bus stations etc because of bomb threats.  While bomb scares tended to 
> be empty threats (the real ones came with no warning) all had to be treated as 
> potentially dangerous.  
> 
> Patricia in Wales

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