Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM import problem

[John Magyari]

Troy,

If you email the gedcom I will reproduce, look at the contents inside 
the gedcom and let you know what is wrong.

email to jmagy...@gmail.com

john

Ron Ferguson wrote:

Troy,

I notice that whilst I have been away nobody has answered your query, 
and I regret I am unble to either. I have just imported two files, one 
generated by Legacy and the other by EasyTree and both imported 
without problem. Unfortunately I do not have an FTM GEDCOM.


Legacy Help suggests the following:

If you find, after Legacy analyzes the file, that there are fewer 
individuals and marriages in the file than you were expecting 
(oftentimes zero), you can follow this procedure:


Right-click on the Start the Import button.  A popup message appears 
asking: Re-analyze this file using special binary method?
Click Yes.  The GEDCOM file will then be re-analyzed and the counts 
should then be correct.

Click Start the Import (left-click) to import the file.

I guess that this pop-up is not appearing for you. Two things which 
you may like to look at: Click on the customise and see if there are 
any unrecognised codes, and open the GEDCOM in Notepad, or similar, 
and see if the details are actually present in the GEDOM (and not just 
the headers).


Someone with more knowledge of FTM than I have may be able to help you 
further.


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- Original Message - From: troy watson
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: 21 October 2009 01:01
Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM import problem


Wondering if someone could help me.  A cousin sent me a GEDCOM 
file from his Family tree maker , from FTW file. When I try to 
import into my Legacy 7 system, it analyzes all 2,000 entries, but 
when I push the import button it only loads one entry.   What gives.  
I've tried it several times and the same thing happens.


troy






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Re: [LegacyUG] Charting

[John Magyari]

The Chart you are describing is sometimes referred to as a "Blood 
relationship chart", which is great to show families, children and to 
have at family reunions.  I've created several of these for reunions and 
family members.  And also find that most of my family members seem to 
spend more time looking at this type a chart to see who they are related 
to vs just their own ancestry tree.


Sometimes people also want to print an "All-In-One Chart" which would 
include everybody you've recorded in your database.
With large databases  this is sometimes unpractical because it's just to 
big.

What I do with All-In-One Charts is create subset databases:
For example I'll tag a branch of a tree and then tag people I'm not sure 
if connected but possibly, create a gedcom.  Then create an All-In-One 
Chart.  This has been helpful when trying to get others to view the 
section I'm working and I find it very helpful for myself.


Of the charts I use I find I use the above "All-In-One" and via a 
"All-In-One" chart create a "Blood Relationship Charts" for about 65% of 
all charts I create.


Of the 8 or 9 different packages I've tried in the past only one company 
seems to do a very good job in this area.  Currently we do not have 
these Chart Types in Legacy.


Another type of Chart I've been requested to do is an Hour Glass Chart 
based on all Children as the center node

Ex.  2 Sisters and 1 Brother all married
Create an Hour glass Chart that includes all Ancestors of above 3 
Children and their spouses and then the direct descendants of the 3 
children.


A few people have asked for their Charts to be created with their a Step 
Parent vs their biological parent who skipped out of their lives (that 
they don't even care about the skipped out biological parent).  An 
All-In-One Chart here is great because you can just delete the unwanted 
Biological Parent Tree limb (person and their ancestors) from the Chart 
and your left with the functional Family.  The Family Chart


Most programs on the market limit their charts to biological ancestors 
and descendants and their spouses.
Based on human nature I would imagine that sometimes a few listed in 
genealogical databases as biological parents are in fact only the 
married parents.


Charts are great when you can create the kinds of charts "YOU" want to 
create.


I created a Chart to show my mom of all her relatives, she has help me 
collect info over the last 5 years. The chart ended up being 6 feet high 
and 20 feet long.  She had no idea that we had collected so much info.


john



Jenny M Benson wrote:

rck wrote
Hi, is it possible to create an ancestor chart that also shows 
selected cousins, uncles, aunts, etc.?


Your cousins, uncles and aunts are not your ancestors so any chart 
which showed them would not be an Ancestor Chart, would it?!




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[LegacyUG] Charts For Requesting Info

[John Magyari]

I'd like to create a chart similar to the following, so I can forward it 
on to have others fill in missing blanks.
I'd like to be able to specify how many generations to create, when 
individuals are not in DB create placeholders for them with categories, 
and have categories displayed with known and unknown info.
If info is known in Legacy Fill in the info, if not Leave a blank space 
behind Category Field
If we can not currently do this in Legacy, is there a 3rd party app if 
gedcom is imported to that will create this type of chart?


GreatGrandFather 	  	GreatGrandMother 	  	GreatGrandFather 	  
GreatGrandMother 	  	GreatGrandFather 	  	GreatGrandMother 	  
GreatGrandFather 	  	GreatGrandMother 	 
Name: __ 	  	Name: __ 	  	Name: __ 	  	Name: __ 	  
Name: __ 	  	Name: __ 	  	Name: __ 	  	Name: __ 	 
Born: __ 	  	Born: __ 	  	Born: __ 	  	Born: __ 	  
Born: __ 	  	Born: __ 	  	Born: __ 	  	Born: __ 	 
Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  
Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	 
Married: __ 	  	Married: __ 	  	Married: __ 	  	Married: 
__ 	  	Married: __ 	  	Married: __ 	  	Married: __ 	  
Married: __ 	 
Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  
Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	 
Death: __ 	  	Death: __ 	  	Death: __ 	  	Death: __ 	  
Death: __ 	  	Death: __ 	  	Death: __ 	  	Death: __ 	 
Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  
Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	  	Place: __ 	 
Cemetary: __ 	  	Cemetary: __ 	  	Cemetary: __ 	  	Cemetary: 
__ 	  	Cemetary: __ 	  	Cemetary: __ 	  	Cemetary: 
__ 	  	Cemetary: __ 	 


Grandfather 

Grandmother 

Grandfather 

Grandmother 

Name: __

Name: __

Name: __

Name: __

Born: __

Born: __

Born: __

Born: __

Place: __   

Place: __   

Place: __   

Place: __   

Married: __ 

Married: __ 

Married: __ 

Married: __ 

Place: __   

Place: __   

Place: __   

Place: __   

Death: __   

Death: __   

Death: __   

Death: __   

Place: __   

Place: __   

Place: __   

Place: __   

Cemetary: __

Cemetary: __

Cemetary: __

Cemetary: __



Father  





Mother  





Name: __





Name: __





Born: __





Born: __





Place: __   





Place: __   





Married: __ 





Married: __ 





Place: __   





Place: __   





Death: __   





Death: __   





Place: __   





Place: __   





Cemetary: __





Cemetary: __









Starting Person 













Name: __


   

Re: [LegacyUG] Forms Need to know where to set location

[John Magyari]

Thank you both Ron and Mike,

I've moved things around so much in the past on my 5 Terabytes and 
partitions, I thought I may have messed things up.


I remembered so many directories could be set via Options-> Customize -> 
Locations there was not an option there,


I figured it out myself about 5 minutes before I received Mike's email, 
and I initally forgot to click on browse and later saw some mention of 
this in the help.


Initially there was nothing displayed at the bottom of the window as the 
help suggests as to the current path, mine was blank.


All my files were in the directory structure already and via browse I 
was able to get things back to normal.


We probably need to add this to the Locations page and any other setable 
directories to be constant with human interface guidelines.  Maybe an 
enhancement request.


thanks,
john


Mike Fry wrote:

Ron Ferguson wrote:

Mike Fry wrote:

John Magyari wrote:

Ver 7.0.0.109 Deluxe

1) Current when I go to

Reports->All Reports->Forms Center

NOTHING APPEARS in the forms section

2) When I check Options Customize
I do not see where I can set a location for forms

Is it somewhere else?


Go back to your Forms Centre and click the Browse... button. From
there, navigate to where the forms are stored - normally the Forms
subdirectory within the Legacy folder - you should see two further
subdirectories: Census Forms and Relationship Diagrams. You're
there! Click the OK button and everything should be visible.

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Best regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.


10/11/09 06:39:00


Mike,

For some users nothing appears at all so one can't navigate - it was 
that situation which I thought John meant.


Ron Ferguson


I know! We see the query often enough. But some people may 
inadvertently have lost or corrupted their settings and hadn't 
realised that the way to get their forms back was through the 
Browse... button.


As a more permanent solution, Millennia could create a ZIP file 
containing the current form files, and allow people to download them 
if they want them. Then, the forms can be removed from the main Legacy 
installation file. A small reduction of bloat, but a move towards a 
more structured and compartmentalised program.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Forms Need to know where to set location

[John Magyari]

Thank you.
This worked.

Mike Fry wrote:

John Magyari wrote:

Ver 7.0.0.109 Deluxe

1) Current when I go to

Reports->All Reports->Forms Center

NOTHING APPEARS in the forms section

2) When I check Options Customize
I do not see where I can set a location for forms

Is it somewhere else?


Go back to your Forms Centre and click the Browse... button. From 
there, navigate to where the forms are stored - normally the Forms 
subdirectory within the Legacy folder - you should see two further 
subdirectories: Census Forms and Relationship Diagrams. You're there! 
Click the OK button and everything should be visible.






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[LegacyUG] Forms Need to know where to set location

[John Magyari]

Ver 7.0.0.109 Deluxe

1) Current when I go to

Reports->All Reports->Forms Center

NOTHING APPEARS in the forms section

2) When I check Options Customize
I do not see where I can set a location for forms

Is it somewhere else?

My Legacy version is located:
R:\Program Files\Millennia\Legacy7

When I go to that directory I do see a subdirectory Forms which contain 
the forms I want to look at through Legacy.


thanks,
john




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[LegacyUG] Re: Copy Census Event created for one individual to others the same event applies to easily

[John Magyari]

I figured it out.

Using Clipboard

john

John Magyari wrote:

How Can I copy a generic Census Event from 1 person to
others?

I created a Census Event generic enough that I want 20 other people to 
have the same exact events assigned to them.


Is there an easy way to copy the event and everything associated with 
it to other individuals?


thanks,
john






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[LegacyUG] Copy Census Event created for one individual to others the same event applies to easily

[John Magyari]

How Can I copy a generic Census Event from 1 person to
others?

I created a Census Event generic enough that I want 20 other people to 
have the same exact events assigned to them.


Is there an easy way to copy the event and everything associated with it 
to other individuals?


thanks,
john




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[LegacyUG] Adding Pictures Source, Event, Step 2 Source, Step 3 Source jpg image and Notes Everywhere or only once

[John Magyari]

Legacy 7

I'm wondering where to add pictures, notes during entering/sourcing process.

I have an image of 1900 Census for Male1 and Wife1
I've copied infonotes into notepad to add into Legacy
I have a jpg of image.

I'll also use the source writer to document scanned Census image from 
Microfilm.


1) Would you attach this picture to all, some or just one place?
To Individual Male 1
To Event
On Step 2 To Source Multimedia Section
On Step 3 Source Multimedia Section

2) Where would one place the infonotes from the Census
To Event
On Step 2 To Source Text Comments Section
On Step 3 Source Text Comments Section

Then I would add his wife, dito

Seems like this same image might get add to 4 different sections,  and 
notes to 3 different,  but maybe it should be only added one or more places.


thanks,
john magyari



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[LegacyUG] Pictures - Legacy Reports, Charting, Web and TNG

[John Magyari]

I use Legacy 7 Deluxe

I've collected a number of pictures from
Ancestry
   Shipping Manifest ( 200kb to 1.5meg)
   Census (most are jpgs 150kb to 2meg)
   WW Cards
EllisIsland
Scans of microfilm from LDS (most are tiffs 3meg to 8meg in size)
Family Documents
Family Pictures

Some are Tiffs, some JPG

Is there a recommended format and SIZE (or some other measurement) for 
saving pictures so they can be used in Legacy for reports (PDF and 
word), Legacy web generation, Legacy charting, I am to also looking at 
their use with TNG web?


Should they be saved in multiple formats depending on their use?

Many of my pictures were originally saved in tiff so if printed they 
would have a better chance of clarity,  but now I'm hoping some will 
share their experience of best ways to store images for multiple uses. 
(Genealogy Websites, Reports, etc.)


For Websites do you create multiple sizes Thumbnail, Small, Med, Full 
resolution,  if so do how do you link all to Legacy internally?


Is this topic discussed on one of the Legacy CD sets in detail?

Do you look at height x width x resolution, or height pixel x width 
pixel, total size, something else?


Thanks,
john magyari





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[LegacyUG] Potential Problems More than one set of Parents

[John Magyari]

Legacy 7

How can one find all individuals which contain more than 1 set of parents?

Is this something the potential Problem Report should flag?

thanks,
john



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Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible setting

[John Magyari]

You need to update to the latest version 7.0.0.55

Reproduced with 7.0.0.55
It's a bug.

jdm

Carl Cox wrote:
I set some people "invisible", but they transferred to a GEDCOM file. 
The Help file says they will not transfer. Does anyone know what is 
wrong?
 
I have build 7.0.0.41. Is this one of the things that was corrected in 
the current build?
 
I need to correct this to avoid some irate people!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3167

[John Magyari]

Syble,

The next time the error occurs (hopefully you woun't see it again) 
knowing exactly the steps occur before the problem happens will allow 
others to try to reproduce what you are seeing.


For example in another thread it is reported that
if one
1) If You Click on "Add or Edit Source Cititations" Icon (appears as a 
book icon) in the Individual Information window

2) Click on "Add A New Source" icon
3) Click on "Cancel"
4) Click on "Cite a Master Source" icon
you will get "Run-time error 3167" Record is deleted and the application 
will disappear.
I can reproduce the above 4 steps and it always results in the same 
message and aborted application.
If this is what causing your problem you'll have to wait for another 
release because it's a bug.



But if you are doing something else, understanding exactly what you are 
doing preceeding the event can provide information to tohers to help to 
point you in the right direction. The sooner others can reproduce what 
you are seeing, the sooner it possibly get fixed.  Knowing the 
preceeding steps is very very helpful.


jdm




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Syble,

Go to our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >
Solutions by Error Number, where you'll find a solution to this error
message.

Brian
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On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Syble Glasscock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

It happens after I've been working with Legacy for a while.  I've been
adding sources to events trying to get my files more in order, so that's
what I've been doing each time it has happened.
Syble Glasscock

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From: John Magyari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3167
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 6:35 PM

This happens when you first start Legacy?

If not when does it occur,  what are the 2 previous things you do right
before it happens?

jdm

Syble Glasscock wrote:

I'm using Legacy v7, and I'm getting a Run-time error 3167 and then it just
shuts down.  I've used v.5 & v.6 and never had problems, I checked and I
have the latest update, any ideas on what is going on.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3167

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This happens when you first start Legacy?

If not when does it occur,  what are the 2 previous things you do right 
before it happens?


jdm

Syble Glasscock wrote:
I'm using Legacy v7, and I'm getting a Run-time error 3167 and then it 
just shuts down.  I've used v.5 & v.6 and never had problems, I 
checked and I have the latest update, any ideas on what is going on.  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Understanding USA 4 Field Locations and Geocoding at the address Level

[John Magyari]

If Legacy has 9 Positions in the Location Field then the designers must 
done this for a reason.  I'm having trouble seeing/understanding this in 
documentation or help.


It seems logical to me that position 9 should be used for the category 
that is the least specific ( I would assume that the Country is usually 
the least specific category, except for those limiting their research to 
one Country only),  and all lower positions should become more specific 
if known.
Even with a 4 position system, if one starts using position 4 for 
Country,  it seems to be limiting in the future if one decides they 
might want to document locations with more precise information in the 
future.


Is there any negative implications if one uses position 9 for Country vs 
using Position 4?


Is there any negative implications if one uses a location system larger 
than 4 positions?


I guess for those who only use 4 Positions then one can see all 
Individuals that have a common city.
But would one only use a system of 3 Positions if one wanted to see all 
locations that share the same County, or a 2 position system to be able 
to see all who share the same State?


Ideally it would be nice to print our reports at any level of positions 
and not limit it to only a Report based on the number of positions being 
used. (All using same State,  using same house)


Is there a way to print out a report to show
a) All that lived on the same Street or
b) All those that might have lived in the same House
c) All that Live in the Same County
if you use a 4 Position system?

I have approximately 10,000 events that I'd like to import, 80% have 
location information detailed to the Address#/Street level and 20% 
detailed to the City level.

It would be great to then allow Legacy VE to geocode these events.

I'd like to implement a system so I don't have go back and redo 
everything in the near future.


thanks for your insights,
jdm

ronald ferguson wrote:

Actually, Paul, if one sets the Location List to read from right to left then 
it's quite easy to manage the locations when the full address is included in 
the location field.

Over the past month or so, even excluding mapping, we have seen many instances 
of users having different problems, many relating directly or indirectly to 
searching, because they rigidly stick to the 4 field format.

Just my view!


Ron Ferguson

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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:30:48 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Understanding USA 4 Field Locations and Geocoding at 
the address Level
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

John;

I use the 4 position address in the MASTER source list to identify the city 
etc... then in the individual DETAILS portion for that person, I place the 
remaining address information.  Organizing the master source in this manner 
allows me to find all the relatives that live in a city.
I then add an ADDRESS EVENT under the particular person to show the exact 
location of where that person lives which would include the street number, name 
and city location.   With a data base coming up to 20 thousand people, I think 
using the MASTER source list for an address book would be way too cumbersome to 
keep track of my relatives.
Example of the EVENT output:
Residence, 176 Aberfoyle Avenue, 1950-1975 - Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario, 
Canada
That is one example of how I use Legacy to my advantage.  To each his own 
though...

Thank you,
Paul Croteau

- Original Message 
From: John Magyari 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 11:16:03 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Understanding USA 4 Field Locations and Geocoding at the 
address Level

In most of the help, pdfs and videos it is implied to consider using
only 4 of the 9 positions for USA.
And to use position 1-4.
City - Position 1
County - Position 2
State - Position 3
Country - Position 4


1) With this trend how would anyone ever use the remaining fields for
positions 5 - 9 if you use positions 1-4 for city through Country?
It appears that lower position numbers give more precise location
information.

2) Wouldn't it be better to use positions 6 -9 instead of 1-4 for USA
Addresses?
City - Position 6
County - Position 7
State - Position 8
Country - Position 9

This would allow the other lower positions to be used for more detailed
location information.

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[LegacyUG] Understanding USA 4 Field Locations and Geocoding at the address Level

[John Magyari]

In most of the help, pdfs and videos it is implied to consider using
only 4 of the 9 positions for USA.
And to use position 1-4.
City - Position 1
County - Position 2
State - Position 3
Country - Position 4



1) With this trend how would anyone ever use the remaining fields for
positions 5 - 9 if you use positions 1-4 for city through Country?
It appears that lower position numbers give more precise location
information.

2) Wouldn't it be better to use positions 6 -9 instead of 1-4 for USA
Addresses?
City - Position 6
County - Position 7
State - Position 8
Country - Position 9

This would allow the other lower positions to be used for more detailed
location information.

3) Legacy VE only uses the location field when determining
latitude/longitude Geocoding information and does not use information
entered in the Address Information Window. If positions 6-9 were used
for City, County, State, Country

then

position 5 could be used for the street name
position 4 could be used for the house # or address number of a
cemetery/hospital/residence/event


When this method is used Legacy VE geocodes at the address level giving
more precise latitude/longitude information.
I've tested this and for many USA address and the geocoding gives a good
coding for longitude/latitude at an address level.
VE also appears to do a quicker job of Geocoding if the County is left
blank.

Are others using methods other than the Position 1-4 USA method and also
how are non-USA Legacy users approached this as well?

4) If so could you share how you have you system set up?

Low Position->(Position 1, Position 2, Position 3, Position 4, Position
5, Position 6, Position 7, Position 8, Position 9)
Low Position->(Position 1, Room, Apt # or Cometary Plot #, Address #,
Street Name, City, County, State, Country)

5) Where can one change the Generic Labels Position 1 - Position 9 to
descriptors such as Apt # or Cemetery Plot #, Address #, Street Name,
City, County, State, Country?

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[LegacyUG] Alternate Names Ancestry.com and US Census

[John Magyari]

While searching for my Grandfather 1920 Census via ancestry.com
ancestry had my grandfather's surname indexed Mazzari, with a Yellow 
triangle next to it indicating other possible names Maggard


When I look at the original it is correctly spelled
Magyari

Since the original image has it spelled correctly, but a search via 
ancestry,com has it indexed via Mazzari and Maggard (index does NOT have 
Magyari) which are incorrect transcriptions, but in ancestry's index.


1) How would you place this info in Legacy, so others could potential 
find in future?

a) AKAs Mazzari and Maggard ??
b) just in notes?

2) I run into a similar issue with the 1910 Census
here the index has it written incorrectly
Magdyar
I would assume here I really would use a AKA, correct???

thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] IE 7 and mapping

[John Magyari]

On my Pentium III w/512Meg memory and Pentium 4 2.53GHz w/2Gig memory,
Using either IE6 or IE7 seems to give same performance to me.  I don't 
see a slow down.


IE7 and mapping is a cool feature on Rev 7.

Why don't you load IE7,  and try it,  you can remove it if it affects 
you machine and go back to the old IE6 if you have to.  You'll probably 
have no problems with IE7.


jdm

Elsie Saar wrote:
I understand one needs to download IE 7 to have mapping work. I have 
not done so as IE 7 seemed to slow down my friend's  computer. Has 
anyone else had this happen to them? I would like to use the mapping 
feature.

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[LegacyUG] How to enter a Marriage Location or Residence Place, so it correctly maps in Legacy via (Virtual Earth)?

[John Magyari]

I need to clear up some entries and hope to clean up some of my location 
fields.
Ideally I'd like then to to use the new Virtual Earth to get as exact of 
a GPS location as possible depending on the information I've entered.


In the past most of my addresses were entered
City, County, State, Country
Location1, Location2, Location3, Location4
now I have many addresses with Zip Code, Street Address, Location (IE 
Church Name, etc), Location within Location (IE A certain Chapel)


1) Do you have any recommendations?

For Example I'd like to enter the following
Main Chapel, The Episcopal Church of St. Mary the Virgin, 2325 Union 
Street, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA, 94123, USA

Room, Church, Address, City, County, State, Zip, Country

I entered the same address a variety of ways to see what Legacy (Virtual 
Earth) Mapping would turn up
I created a Person and then added the following to Event/Fact to 
multiple Residence Categories and place the addresses in the Place Field.


Addresses that found N374645.0353 W1222512.175  Generic SF Location
San Francisco, San Francisco, CA, USA
San Francisco, , CA, USA
***A) San Francisco, San Francisco, CA, USA, 2325 Union Street
San Francisco, San Francisco, CA, USA, 2325 Union Street, The Episcopal 
Church of St. Mary the Virgin


Addresses that found N374659.432 W1222459.782
San Francisco, San Francisco, CA, USA, 2325 Union Street, The Episcopal 
Church of St. Mary the Virgin, Main Chapel


Addresses that found N374747.518 W1222615.367  
CORRECT

***B) San Francisco, San Francisco, CA, 2325 Union Street
2325 Union Street, San Francisco, CA, 94123, USA
2325 Union Street, San Francisco, CA, 94123

Addresses that found N374630 W1222506  Not sure of why this got 
mapped this way

The Episcopal Church of St. Mary the Virgin, San Francisco, CA, USA

2) When entering a location in the marriage section I don't see a + 
Address option like I do for the Born, Chr, Died, Buried

Should it be an option here?

3) I also don't see the + Option for Events/Facts for the Place Field
Should it be an option here?


4) When you look at ***A vs ***B, it appears that if I use the address 
for location4 vs using the Country I will get a correct GEO Coding


Then I need to start seeing how I can utilize the other fields for info 
on some of my European addresses.


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Re: [LegacyUG] PDF is not correct size and missing some borders

[John Magyari]

So it appears that maybe your page is to small also if you selected 8.5 
x 11.


With my smaller image part of the border was missing since I selected to 
have a page border as well


Here's better instructions to create a page border to see if it missing 
on your printed image.

Choose the Appearance Tab
Select Page Icon (4th from left)
Make sure No Page Border does NOT have a Check
and select any border type

than create a Chart that is only one page and see if the border is missing.

Maria


Randolph Clark wrote:
I tried it. At your step called "Select a Page border from apperance 
section" I neither knew how nor desired a Page border. It came out 
8.25 x 10.81.


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Maria Dymon <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Yes In Charting program
Under Page Setup
I have Epson Photo 750
Size Letter 8.5 x 11
Portrait
 
I Then can reproduce with sample database file just select Asa

Brown for a 1 generatoin chart.
Select one Generation so you don;t get multiple pages
Select a Page border from apperance section
Publish to PDF and view
Then in Adobe Pro I select properties and it shows image is only
8.27 x 10.33 in
 
And borders are missing on bottom and right side.
 
When you try this what size does your PDF View report?
 
Does your PDF have all borders?
 
Maria


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:49 AM, Jenny M Benson
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Maria Dymon wrote

I created a one page PDF and was expecting to see a
8.5 x 11 pdf produced.
 
*** What I received was a PDF with the size 8.27 x

10.33 in.  


Have you got the right page size selected in Page Setup on the
File menu?
-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Run time error 3260

[John Magyari]

Do you have MS Access installed on your machine?

Will Chapman wrote:

Will
The cure I was given did work for a while but now the problem has 
returned.
You do have a user "admin" as it is effectively the main operating 
system

tasks.

Strange, I can't find any trace of it (and Vista is quite good at 
managing such detail).


I did some "googling around" and error 3260 in the context of MS 
Access and
VB (which is how Legacy is built) is a problem regarding record 
locking in

the database. So, I think it is a bug somewhere and nothing we can cure
ourselves. I get the problem trying to do "set relationships" from one
machine where the database is on another.

I've solved it (for the moment). I noticed that one of the folders 
under C:\Legacy was shared
and after a bit of searching I found it and switched it off. (How this 
got there I don't know but must have been carried over when I 
transferred settings from my XP machine to the new Vista laptop). So I 
can now use the Potential Problems feature again (although I have 
noticed that the problem reappears sometimes if I try to use an 
existing PP list).


I think you need to wait until the whole team is back from the cruise 
and

chase Support

Indeed. I didn't realise they were away on the cruise. I originally 
posted the issue to them in early June when I was still using my XP 
machine and not getting a response surprises me. Support has always 
been good in the past but they seem to have been overwhelmed by the 
success of V7.


Cheers

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Re: [LegacyUG] 29 February 1894 - What's wrong with this date?

[John Magyari]

1892 and 1896 were leap years.

Why do assume 1894 is a leap year?

Melody B wrote:
I don't know if this is a bug or not.  I have  a date for something or 
other that is "29 Feb 1894".


To me, that sure looks like a valid date.  1894 should have been a 
leap year.


Unless of course it wasn't.  But if not, then I don't know why.

And if the date is correct, then Legacy 7 is having a problem with it 
- it flags it as a bad date Every single time.




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If not now, when?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Update chart

[John Magyari]

Far left
Icons that sit on Left margin, last Icon that has 2 Arrows Top arrow 
point to left, bottom arrow pointing to right.

If you place cursor over it it says Refresh Chart


Gary Elder wrote:
I've successfully made an hour glass chart, but recently made some 
changes to the related family file.  I would like the changes be 
reflected in the chart but I can't find the UPDATE FILE LIST button 
mentioned in the help document.


Where is it located?

Gary

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Re: [LegacyUG] two versions on one computer

[John Magyari]

Install to a different directory than your previous version and 
everything should be fine.


Default directory is c:\Legacy

choose something unique.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello listers,

OK, so even though we are leaving Mexico for Texas again and I do 
not have time yet to use it I finally purchased the new V7 deluxe 
package.


Can someone please tell me the proper way to download the new 
version and still keep V6? I want to use a small DB with the new 
version until I learn how to use it correctly. I remember that 
several of you use more than one version on the same computer and 
it is now time for me to learn how to do that.


Yes, I looked at the archives (again) and did not find the answer 
I need.


Thanks,

-- Myrna J
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Re: [LegacyUG] SSDI Search String

[John Magyari]

Rootsweb wants only middle Inital, don't think we can pass just that.

This should work for most

Pass
FirstName
Surname
Year Death if known

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi?auth=&cj=1&nt=exact&lastname=[Surname]&start=0&firstname=[FirstName]&death=[DeathYear]&o_xid=0002370638&o_lid=0002370638

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Randolph Clark wrote:
Tried searching Warren Jay Taylor who is in SSDI. Not found. Tried 
just Warren Taylor and found him among 268 entries. Apparently middle 
name is not a search parameter on WVR. Perhaps at FamilySearch.org

?

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:44 AM, John Magyari <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


Can you manually give First and Middle on lookup.

I'm seeing FAILED if I use middle name.

Please given Name (First Middle) Last that you can use
successfully on manual search and I can then provide search string.

jdm


Randolph Clark wrote:

Getting closer but need middle name.


http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/zsearch.aspx?ix=ssdiall&qt=l&zfn=[FirstName]&zln=[Surname]&zdate=

<http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/zsearch.aspx?ix=ssdiall&qt=l&zfn=%5BFirstName%5D&zln=%5BSurname%5D&zdate=>

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Randolph Clark
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

I'm getting close with this one in WVR.
http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/zsearch.aspx?ix=ssdiall&qt=l&zfn=[given

<http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/zsearch.aspx?ix=ssdiall&qt=l&zfn=%5Bgiven>
name]&zln=[surname]&zdate=1949

Need some help.


On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gene Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

Jenny M Benson wrote:


Ruth Nerud wrote

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

which I got by googling rootsweb ssdi


That's not a search string, that is a URL.  What the
OP was asking for is the search string to create a
Customised Search within Legacy's Search the Internet
feature.

(I've never used the feature so I can't help.)



I tried but the Rootsweb SSDI search does not display the
search string in the URL address bar. With out that you
can not create the string.  Apparently this one is not
doable.

-- 
Gene Y.

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Re: [LegacyUG] SSDI Search String

[John Magyari]

Can you manually give First and Middle on lookup.

I'm seeing FAILED if I use middle name.

Please given Name (First Middle) Last that you can use successfully on 
manual search and I can then provide search string.


jdm

Randolph Clark wrote:

Getting closer but need middle name.

http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/zsearch.aspx?ix=ssdiall&qt=l&zfn=[FirstName]&zln=[Surname]&zdate= 



On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Randolph Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


I'm getting close with this one in WVR.
http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/zsearch.aspx?ix=ssdiall&qt=l&zfn=[given

name]&zln=[surname]&zdate=1949

Need some help.


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> wrote:

Jenny M Benson wrote:


Ruth Nerud wrote

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

which I got by googling rootsweb ssdi


That's not a search string, that is a URL.  What the OP
was asking for is the search string to create a Customised
Search within Legacy's Search the Internet feature.

(I've never used the feature so I can't help.)



I tried but the Rootsweb SSDI search does not display the
search string in the URL address bar. With out that you can
not create the string.  Apparently this one is not doable.

-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] SSDI Search String

[John Magyari]

For Just Given Name, Surname use

http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/GlobalSearch.aspx?qt=g&zfn=[FirstName]&zln=[Surname]&zplace=&zdate=&*content=&se=Exact
[ ]=[%20]

For Given name, Surname, Death Date
http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/GlobalSearch.aspx?qt=g&zfn=[FirstName]&zln=[Surname]&zplace=&zdate=[DeathDate]
[ ]=[%20]

jdm

Randolph Clark wrote:

I'm getting close with this one in WVR.
http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/zsearch.aspx?ix=ssdiall&qt=l&zfn=[given 
 
name]&zln=[surname]&zdate=1949


Need some help.

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gene Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Jenny M Benson wrote:


Ruth Nerud wrote

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

which I got by googling rootsweb ssdi


That's not a search string, that is a URL.  What the OP was
asking for is the search string to create a Customised Search
within Legacy's Search the Internet feature.

(I've never used the feature so I can't help.)



I tried but the Rootsweb SSDI search does not display the search
string in the URL address bar. With out that you can not create
the string.  Apparently this one is not doable.

-- 
Gene Y.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

[John Magyari]

If you spouse has father, mother, aunt, uncle, cousin, nephew, niece, 
whatever as blood relationships,
Then to you if you are married add "-in-law" to end and they are 
non-blood relationships.


If someone is married to one of your blood relationships and they are 
not a blood relationship then add appropriate

spouse prefix
"husband of" or
"wife of".

You would use 7C 6R in-law about as much as your spouse would use 7C 6R, 
not to often, but if it came up the description would fit.


jdm



Anne Hildrum wrote:

Uncle-in-law what is that? Guess we have less relationships or
non relationship names than you do in english.

Personally I would expect Legacy to handle mother-father-brother and 
sister-in laws
as that is "relationship names" that we do have and use. Are we also 
going to have

7C 6R in-law?

Anne

- Original Message - From: "Chick Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator



Maybe so, but Legacy does return in-law relationships, so it should
return the so-called uncle-in-law relationship.  I still think that
"no relationship" is wrong.


On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Wynthner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ah.. but here's the thing
*Any* in-law "relationship" is no genealogical relationship at 
all-merely a social one or a legal one (if that).

;)


- Original Message 
From: Chick Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:35:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

OK, then Legacy should return the relationship as nephew-in-law.
but it returns "no relationship" which is wrong.


On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Wynthner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Your uncle is the brother of your father or mother. The husband of 
your aunt (your father's or mother's sister) is yoru uncle-in-law.
You are the nephew-in-law, not the nephew, of the husband of your 
aunt.

Imho, it is not a bug.


- Original Message 
From: Chick Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:28:12 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

So what is the verdict?  Is it a bug or not?
Seems to me that even if my uncle is calculated as the husband of my
aunt, he is still my uncle and should be listed as such.  And I should
be calculated as his nephew as well as my aunt's nephew or at least as
the nephew of my aunt's husband.
My wife's parents are not actually related to me either, but they are
calculated as in-laws.
Chick


On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:01 AM, glove 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not really - the nephew of my wife is a different person to the 
husband of
my aunt. If the true aunt was the selected person the relationship 
would
show both ways round and the reverse relationship would show if I 
were the

selected person.
Graham


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Mary Young

Sent: 28 June 2008 12:58
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

Seems to me, the relationship is equally valid both ways.
The other end of "husband of aunt"  is  "nephew of wife"
--
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[LegacyUG] Locations Order Input

[John Magyari]

Legacy 7 Deluxe

I noticed that one can set nine fields for  locations

I'd like to be able to set
Loc1, Loc2, Loc3, Loc4, Loc5, Loc6, Loc7, Loc8, Loc9
with Country, State, County, City, Street, Address#, Apt#, Room, Bed #

1) How would I set the above parameters in the proper order??

A) Country, State, County, City, Street, Address#, Apt#, Room, Bed #
or
B ) Bed #, Room, Apt#, Address#, Street, City , County, State, Country
or
C) Some other logically way

and then based on known info input subsets of above.

When I go to the Master Location and try to do sort
it appears it wants
LOC4 to be Country
LOC3 to be State
LOC2 to be County
LOC1 to be City

I want it so I can use all nine fields if known and then to be able to 
using MAPPING


2) Can I specify for mapping use all locations except Apt#, Room, Bed of 
what is know?


jdm



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

[John Magyari]

If there is a relationship one way, then there should be a relationship 
the other way.
The reason for a relationship in either direction is because of a common 
connection.


Chick Lewis wrote:

Legacy correctly calculates the relationship between me and my uncle
as "husband of aunt", but when the names are swapped, it says there is
no relationship.  I notice this with similar relationships.  Do we
have a bug ?
Chick Lewis



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[LegacyUG] Non Blood Relationships

[John Magyari]

If Person in Col#1 is related to Col#4
And Col#4 individual has the relationship to Col#5

1) Are the Relationships in Col # 3 Valid Non-Blood relationships to the 
individual in Col #1?

2) Are there other Non-Blood Relationships over looked here?

Column 1Column 2Column 3Column 4Column 5
Column 6
Selected Person 	Blood/Non-Blood 	Relationship 	Related Individual to 
Selected Person 	How related to Related Individual 	To Related

Husband NB  Brother-In-Law  WifeBrother 
Husband NB  Sister-In-Law   WifeSister  
Husband NB  Niece-In-LawWifeNiece   
Husband NB  Nephew-In-Law   WifeNephew  
Husband NB  Father-In-Law   WifeFather  
Husband NB  Mother-In-Law   WifeMother  
Husband NB  Grandfather-In-Law  WifeGrandfather 
Husband NB  Grandmother-In-Law  WifeGrandmother 
Husband NB  Uncle-In-LawWifeUncle   
Husband NB  Aunt-In-Law WifeAunt
Husband NB  Husband of Aunt-In-Law  WifeHusband of Aunt 
Husband NB  Wife of Uncle-In-LawWifeWife of Uncle   
Husband 	NB 	Husband of Sister-In-Law 	Wife 	Husband of Sister 
Brother-In-Law

Husband NB  Wife of Brother-In-Law  WifeWife of Brother 
Sister-In-Law
Husband NB  Cousin-In-Law   WifeCousin  
Husband NB  Half-Brother-In-Law WifeHalf-Brother
Husband NB  Half-Sister-In-Law  WifeHalf-Sister 
Husband NB  Step-Sister-In-Law  WifeStep-Sister 
Husband NB  Step-Brother-In-Law WifeStep-Brother
Husband NB  Foster-Sister-In-LawWifeFoster-Sister   
Husband NB  Foster-Brother-In-Law   WifeFoster-Brother  
Husband NB  Husband of Cousin-In-LawWifeHusband of 
Cousin   
Husband NB  Wife of Cousin-In-Law   WifeWife of Cousin  
Husband NB  Wife of Half-Brother-In-Law WifeWife of 
Half-Brother
Husband NB  Husband of Half-Sister-In-Law   WifeHusband of 
Half-Sister  
Husband NB  Step-SonWife (Previous Marriage)Son 
Husband NB  Step-Daughter   Wife (Previous Marriage)
Daughter
Husband 	NB 	Father of Step-Son/Daughter 	Wife (Previous Marriage) 
Father of Son/Daughter 	
Wife 	NB 	Mother of Step-Son/Daughter 	Husband (Previous Marriage) 
Mother of Son/Daughter 	

Father or MotherNB  Son-In-Law  DaughterHusband 
Father or MotherNB  Daughter-In-Law Son Wife
Father or MotherNB  Father of Son-In-LawDaughterFather 
of Husband   
Father or MotherNB  Mother of Son-In-LawDaughterMother 
of Husband   
Father or MotherNB  Father of Daughter-In-Law   Son Father 
of Wife  
Father or MotherNB  Mother of Daughter-In-Law   Son Mother 
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Re: [LegacyUG] LG7 and Virtual Earth

[John Magyari]

Sometimes when I have not been able to uninstall via Control Panel 
Add/Remove.
This problem was related for me when I had several different 
installations on my machine.


I have been able to uninstall, when I go to installation directory and 
run unwise.exe. 
Unwise.exe will use the install.log file in the same folder, where 
sometimes the process via Control Panel has problems locating the 
correct install.log file.


Good detective work on your Error 53, I need to refer to the log file 
you mentioned more myself.


jdm

Amrit Yegnanarayan wrote:

I just checked for log files and in LegError.log, I found this:
Sunday, September 16, 2007Error 3314: The field 'tblMR.IDMS' cannot 
contain a Null value because the Required property for this field is 
set to True.  Enter a value in this field. - Error saving Marriage.
Saturday, June 21, 2008Error 53: File not found - Error creating 
Virtual Earth map.


There are a lot more of the Error53 lines (as many times as I tried).

I also looked for the install.log file and find that it is in the 
Legacy directory (in which installed). I can attach my install file if 
that is allowed and if it will help solve my problems, which are now 2:

1. Cannot uninstall
2. Cannot use VE

Regards,
Amrit.


John Magyari wrote:

I assume on your original install you saw no error messages.
I wonder whether reinstall would make a difference.

1) You might want to check your system,  for XP maybe other OSs
scan file system

To do this simply go to the *Run *box on the *Start Menu* and type in:

*sfc /scannow*

This command will immediately initiate the Windows File Protection 
<http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html#> service  to scan all 
protected files and verify their integrity, replacing any files with 
which it finds a problem.




2) Would it be possible for you to list your System info.
on XP
Start->My Computer
Right Click and select properties

On My System(jdm) (With abbreviations)
MS XP
Pro
Ver 2002
SP2
SKIP REGISTER TO STUFF
Computer Intel
P4 2.53 GHz
2.56 GHZ 2 GB Ram

thanks,
jdm

Amrit Yegnanarayan wrote:

Ron,
I tired with IE7 as default too and the result was the same. I am 
able to access VE at http://maps.live.com/ from FF3.* and IE7. Only 
that I keep getting the same error irrespective of from where within 
Legacy I access it. I have not tried reinstall, but am not 
optimistic, as my father-in-law too has the same problem - same 
error message.

Regards,
Amrit.


ronald ferguson wrote:

Amrit,

You only have to have IE7 installed not set as default - so since you have it you can now forget 
about it. You say "purchased" so I assume you have the Delux. Do you have enough memory 
to run it (I know it says "Path not Found")?

I don't think these possibilities will work but here goes: You do not say how you are 
opening VE: have you tried both ways viz. using the Icon and View>Master 
Sources>Locations making sure that the Show Map box is set in the case of the 
latter - you may have to wait a while. You could try File Maintenance/Check Repair 
but I'm even less optimistic!

If all else fails then reinstall may be the only option


Ron Ferguson

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:48:02 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com 
<mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com>
Subject: [LegacyUG] LG7 and Virtual Earth

I purchased the upgrade to LG7 and upgraded. The VE does not work. I get
an error message:

Error creating Virtual Earth map
Error 53: File not found
Would you like to try again
Yes/No/Quit

I have IE7.* on my m/c, but it is not my default browser (FFX3.* is). I
switched to IE7 as default and still got the same error.Can anyone throw
light on what the problem may be? Legacy has been of very little help so
far.

Thanks,
Amrit.


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Re: [LegacyUG] LG7 and Virtual Earth

[John Magyari]

Barb,

Do you have a high speed connection to the Internet or Dialup?
If dialup, what is max modem speed?

jdm

Barb Weed wrote:

Hi My experience with Legacy and VE is as follows.  I have IE7 on my computer 
but I use Fire Fox as my default browser.  When I first opened up maps I got a 
message that VE could not be found.  Left maps and played around a bit went 
back to maps and got a blank screen, waited a long time and left again.  about 
the third time and from the locations field I finally saw a map and went back 
to the program to maping my family and waited and the map showed up with the 
pins.  The next time I opened Legacy the map field was white again I waited a 
long time and the map showed up!  Now it showes up after a short waite and 
works fine.  It's almost as if the program had to find its own way and now that 
it has, it works fine.

- Original Message 
From: Amrit Yegnanarayan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:00:39 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] LG7 and Virtual Earth

Thanks. I will reinstall and let you guys know the result.


Gene Young wrote:
  

Amrit Yegnanarayan wrote:

I purchased the upgrade to LG7 and upgraded. The VE does not work. I 
get an error message:


   Error creating Virtual Earth map
   Error 53: File not found
   Would you like to try again
   Yes/No/Quit

I have IE7.* on my m/c, but it is not my default browser (FFX3.* is). 
I switched to IE7 as default and still got the same error.Can anyone 
throw light on what the problem may be? Legacy has been of very 
little help so far.


Thanks,
Amrit.
  
A simple google of the phrase "Error 53: File not found" gives the 
answer as the first choice:
-- 


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q178489/

SYMPTOMS
The following error message displays when you attempt to call a 
function in a dynamic-link library (DLL) file from Visual Basic:

Error 53 "File Not Found"

The error message occurs at the function call statement.

Back to the top
CAUSE
This message occurs when Windows is unable to load the specified DLL, 
particularly if the DLL has not been saved at the specified location. 
It will also occur if the dependency files required by the DLL file 
are not installed in the computer.


Back to the top
RESOLUTION
Install the dependency files required by the DLL file.
-- 



Basically you are missing a DLL file (Dynamic Link Library).

There is no entry on the Legacy site for Error 53.
If you did any "house cleaning" on your computer you may have moved or 
deleted the required file. You may need to un-install and re-install 
Legacy.








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Re: [LegacyUG] LG7 and Virtual Earth

[John Magyari]

I assume on your original install you saw no error messages.
I wonder whether reinstall would make a difference.

1) You might want to check your system,  for XP maybe other OSs
scan file system

To do this simply go to the *Run *box on the *Start Menu* and type in:

*sfc /scannow*

This command will immediately initiate the Windows File Protection 
 service  to scan all 
protected files and verify their integrity, replacing any files with 
which it finds a problem.




2) Would it be possible for you to list your System info.
on XP
Start->My Computer
Right Click and select properties

On My System(jdm) (With abbreviations)
MS XP
Pro
Ver 2002
SP2
SKIP REGISTER TO STUFF
Computer Intel
P4 2.53 GHz
2.56 GHZ 2 GB Ram

thanks,
jdm

Amrit Yegnanarayan wrote:

Ron,
I tired with IE7 as default too and the result was the same. I am able 
to access VE at http://maps.live.com/ from FF3.* and IE7. Only that I 
keep getting the same error irrespective of from where within Legacy I 
access it. I have not tried reinstall, but am not optimistic, as my 
father-in-law too has the same problem - same error message.

Regards,
Amrit.


ronald ferguson wrote:

Amrit,

You only have to have IE7 installed not set as default - so since you have it you can now forget 
about it. You say "purchased" so I assume you have the Delux. Do you have enough memory 
to run it (I know it says "Path not Found")?

I don't think these possibilities will work but here goes: You do not say how you are 
opening VE: have you tried both ways viz. using the Icon and View>Master 
Sources>Locations making sure that the Show Map box is set in the case of the 
latter - you may have to wait a while. You could try File Maintenance/Check Repair 
but I'm even less optimistic!

If all else fails then reinstall may be the only option


Ron Ferguson

_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:48:02 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] LG7 and Virtual Earth

I purchased the upgrade to LG7 and upgraded. The VE does not work. I get
an error message:

Error creating Virtual Earth map
Error 53: File not found
Would you like to try again
Yes/No/Quit

I have IE7.* on my m/c, but it is not my default browser (FFX3.* is). I
switched to IE7 as default and still got the same error.Can anyone throw
light on what the problem may be? Legacy has been of very little help so
far.

Thanks,
Amrit.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping and IE7

[John Magyari]

Mapping makes system calls that are available with IE7 to allow Virtual 
Earth to display.


It doesn't make any difference what default browser you use for mapping 
function,  mapping needs to interface directly via OS to IE7 interface 
and is not looking to see what default browser you use.


If you current version of IE is 6,5,4,3,2,1 then you will have to update 
to currently released version of IE7 if you wish to use mapping.


jdm

Roxanne wrote:
Is there a workaround for this? I use Firefox exclusively, and when I 
attempted to use the mapping feature, I got a popup which stated I had 
to have IE7. Yes, I HAVE IE, but since I don't use it, I never update 
it. Wondering, too, if this means I can't use Firefox as my default 
browser with Legacy 7. Does it assume I don't HAVE IE, since I use 
Firefox?


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Re: [LegacyUG] LG7 and Virtual Earth

[John Magyari]

Can you try goto to both these sites and see if Virtual Earth Works?
http://maps.live.com
http://dev.live.com/virtualearth/sdk/
It would be interesting to know if you have the same or other problems here.

jdm

Amrit Yegnanarayan wrote:
I purchased the upgrade to LG7 and upgraded. The VE does not work. I 
get an error message:


   Error creating Virtual Earth map
   Error 53: File not found
   Would you like to try again
   Yes/No/Quit

I have IE7.* on my m/c, but it is not my default browser (FFX3.* is). 
I switched to IE7 as default and still got the same error.Can anyone 
throw light on what the problem may be? Legacy has been of very little 
help so far.


Thanks,
Amrit.



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Re: [LegacyUG] index view

[John Magyari]

Yes I've seen this.

In Index View Click in the Upper Left Box RIN
a) does anything happen?
b) then exit Legacy and restart Legacy, does everything appear to be 
working now?


Please email back what happens.
jdm

Randolph Clark wrote:

I just imported an FTM gedcom and the index view is devoid of names.
If I select it and then return to family view I end up on the same
person. Has anyone encountered this?
Thanks.

Randy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Online download of Legacy 7 Question:

[John Magyari]

When every you overwrite any file, with any program, the previous files 
are replaced by the new ones.


Legacy installs to C:\Legacy by default.

If you want to keep old version(s) of Legacy and have new one just 
install Legacy7 somewhere else like

c:\legacy7

then if you want to keep you old Database Files for Ver 5.
Copy the old version 5 files(usually located in "C:\legacy\data"  into 
the new Legacy7 Location\data


If you open database files with new version once converted previous 
versions will no longer be able to access them.  This is how most 
programs work.


jdm



Deborah K. Millemaci wrote:
I downloaded the latest version of Legacy Friday evening and installed 
it.  Am I wrong to assume that it "overwrites" the previous versions?  
I tried to download Version 5 which was on my desktop...and I received 
the mssage "Are you sure you want to deleter Version 7.0.


Has anyone else had this problem? - Deb

~~
Researching the Following Familiy Ancestors:

Taylor Family From Carter County, KY
(Taylor Branch - Willard)
Hicks Family From Boyd County, KY
(Ashland)
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Millemaci & Arlotta Families from
Montalbano, Sicily
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Re: [LegacyUG] Resizing Legacy charts - suggestion

[John Magyari]

A scaling or resizing option is not currently available.

You could Publish you chart to a jpg, tiff.  Open with a graphics 
program.  Scale to a smaller image and canvas size depending on how many 
pages (1 or more) you wanted to use for you test print review.


Probably more importantly
The scaling will also apply to maximizing a chart to fully take 
advantage of the printed image based on the roll paper being used.


If scaling or resizing is important you might want to submit it via

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp

as an enhancement.

jdm

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since the charts produced by Legacy Charting are designed to be 
wallcharts if one elects to print them on a regular printer, they will 
need several pages to be taped together.


It would be nice if it was possible to resize these charts so that 
they print on a single sheet of paper.  This would allow us to look at 
them in that format and see if we wish to fiddle with them further 
before sending them out for professional printing.  I suppose that one 
could achieve something similar by resizing all the components and 
fonts, but that is impractical.  It would be nice if Legacy Charting 
permitted an option to "fit to page" that is available in many graphic 
programs.


Presently, one work around might be to publish the chart as a jpg file 
which can then be printed using a graphic program's "fit to page" 
option, but it would be nicer if the option to print in that manner 
was available from Charting itself.


Jeff




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting

[John Magyari]

LegacyCharting
Appearance->Box Items->Items To Display
Uncheck Picture
jdm

Melanie Tucker wrote:
Is there a way to suppress photos on the charting software?  I wanted 
to do an ancestor chart, but since I only had photos for two of the 
individuals, I'd rather not include them.
 
Thanks,

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Re: [LegacyUG] charting question

[John Magyari]

Could you add the children to the step parent, mark them as step 
children in the process.


Then when you go to charting they should appear, as all the rest of the 
children.


jdm

Nancy Bender wrote:

Ron,
I know I don't need a text box, but I am adding some step-children to the chart 
so I needed a text box for that. I want to add their pictures so the boxes look 
like the entries for the biological children.
Nancy


  

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] charting question
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:22:48 +0100


Nancy,

You do not need a text box to insert a picture just click the Image Icon.


Ron Ferguson

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Subject: [LegacyUG] charting question
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I have created a chart and added a text box that I would like to add a picture 
to. I found an entry in the help file about how to bring a picture to the 
front. According to that there should be an option in the appearance section of 
the picture tab but I do not find that choice there. Is that not available yet?

Thank you,
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Re: [LegacyUG] CRASH!!

[John Magyari]

When you went to Windows Task Manager

What was the Status of Legacy in the Applications TAB was it Running, 
Not Responsive, something else?


In the processes Tab was Legacy still using CPU Cycles, if so how much?

In the processes Tab what was the memory usage for Legacy? was it 
gradually increasing as you watched?
You can click on the top of the different categories to see what 
processes are consumed the most.


Were any error messages placed in your event Viewer
Control Panel-> Administrative Tools-> Event Viewer-> Application

The above can sometimes give an indication of what's going wrong, before 
killing a process(s)

jdm

ronald ferguson wrote:

Could it be a memory problem?


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Was doing some editing of individual's Picture Files from a search
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View Search List to continue and LEGACY 7.0 FROZE UP completely. Had
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Re: [LegacyUG] New V. 7

[John Magyari]

Sounds like you using some old versions of communications tools.

Why don't you contact the mfg and tell him that IE7 came out in Oct 2006 
and find out when they will support the current shipping IE Browser for 
XP and Vista?


Wynthner wrote:

Now there is a new idea.. a la cart pricing depending on which special features 
you want!
I think I like it... and would hope the cable companies would follow suit.
:)



- Original Message 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:50:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New V. 7

There should be a discounted upgrade price for those that don't have or cannot have 
IE7--as we cannot use the "deluxe" map feature.  I have a job with several 
communication tools that require that I NOT have IE7, so I don't have a choice of whether 
to have it or not.


  





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Re: [LegacyUG] Estern European characters in name and place fields

[John Magyari]

These are the characters that Legacy supports that might not be on your 
keyboard, they can be entered by holding down your alt key and typing 
the indicated 3 numbers

alt127 
alt128 €
alt129 
alt130 ‚
alt131 ƒ
alt132 „
alt133 …
alt134 †
alt135 ‡
alt136 ˆ
alt137 ‰
alt138 Š
alt139 ‹
alt140 Œ
alt141 
alt142 Ž
alt143 
alt144 
alt145 ‘
alt146 ’
alt147 “
alt148 ”
alt149 •
alt150 –
alt151 —
alt152 ˜
alt153 ™
alt154 š
alt155 ›
alt156 œ
alt157 
alt158 ž
alt159 Ÿ
alt160  
alt161 ¡

alt162 ¢
alt163 £
alt164 ¤
alt165 ¥
alt166 ¦
alt167 §
alt168 ¨
alt169 ©
alt170 ª
alt171 «
alt172 ¬
alt173 ­
alt174 ®
alt175 ¯
alt176 °
alt177 ±
alt178 ²
alt179 ³
alt180 ´
alt181 µ
alt182 ¶
alt183 ·
alt184 ¸
alt185 ¹
alt186 º
alt187 »
alt188 ¼
alt189 ½
alt190 ¾
alt191 ¿
alt192 À
alt193 Á
alt194 Â
alt195 Ã
alt196 Ä
alt197 Å
alt198 Æ
alt199 Ç
alt200 È
alt201 É
alt202 Ê
alt203 Ë
alt204 Ì
alt205 Í
alt206 Î
alt207 Ï
alt208 Ð
alt209 Ñ
alt210 Ò
alt211 Ó
alt212 Ô
alt213 Õ
alt214 Ö
alt215 ×
alt216 Ø
alt217 Ù
alt218 Ú
alt219 Û
alt220 Ü
alt221 Ý
alt222 Þ
alt223 ß
alt224 à
alt225 á
alt226 â
alt227 ã
alt228 ä
alt229 å
alt230 æ
alt231 ç
alt232 è
alt233 é
alt234 ê
alt235 ë
alt236 ì
alt237 í
alt238 î
alt239 ï
alt240 ð
alt241 ñ
alt242 ò
alt243 ó
alt244 ô
alt245 õ
alt246 ö
alt247 ÷
alt248 ø
alt249 ù
alt250 ú
alt251 û
alt252 ü
alt253 ý
alt254 þ

Legacy currently does not support the UNICODE character set.

If you like to see UNICODE in a new release or any other features here's 
where to request it

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp

jdm

Richard Doherty wrote:

The surnames and places are from present day Czech Republic.  PAF supported the 
Unicode character set, but apparently Legacy does not - at least not yet.

Dick 

 
Richard M. Doherty

Director, Celtic Quest, LLC
5237 Folkstone Dr.
Troy, MI 48085-3222
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD 
SCHULTHIES
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 3:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Estern European characters in name and place fields

I am curious. Which language are you working with?  I remember you said'Eastern 
European, So we are talking about of the Cyrillic ones. That is one of the 
groups I don't use, but I have seen it discussed occasionally.  Maybe someone 
working in them could help you.
Rich in LA CA

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From: Richard Doherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 6:06:34 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Estern European characters in name and place fields

Thanks for the follow-up Rich.  I cut and pasted your "Ølstøren" into a location in my Legacy db and it displayed correctly. So I next looked at the Character Map (via the ribbon) and both of those "O" characters with the slash were already in the Legacy character map.  


In my case, the special letters that are already in the character map appear fine, the 
ones that do not appear in the map are displayed as a "?".  I am only missing 5 
letters that I need.

I have not seen a Legacy response to this question yet. 

Dick 



Richard M. Doherty
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Troy, MI 48085-3222
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD 
SCHULTHIES
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Estern European characters in name and place fields

Thinking about what I have done, I suspect that because I have the alphabetic list set to Swedish, so all the extra letters/names/places sort properly in ALL lists, it may be a result of the above mentioned setting. I remember having done it, but forgot what I did to accomplish this.  Since Swedish is in the available languages for reports, I don't know if that affects anything. Also, I had originally used the Alt- to create the previous mentioned note-list.  My characters have always printed on Legacy reports. Here is an example of a name. 
'Ølstøren'  Some servers may change this now. What should show up is the Norwegian character O with a slash through it, 1 capital, 1 small. This may be a good test. 
Rich in LA CA


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Sent: Monday, June 2, 2008 6:04:58 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Estern European characters in name and place fields

Thanks Rich, but how did you get Legacy to display or print that character?  
When I cut and paste from PAF or Windows, Legacy displays a questionmark.

Dick 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location

[John Magyari]

There's a Beta for MapCrucher based on Microsoft Virtual Earth.  A free 
download goggle for it.


You can zoom in and it will display location on the cross hairs.
Great if you want exact location information for house, cemetery, 
hospital, etc.


If you can find it on the map you then get the longitude, latitude.

john

Cathy wrote:

Hi Martin,

The Geo Location list hasn't been updated since introduced and is just 
a guide which may be helpful particularly in the US.

I don't use it.

I prefer to research locations for myself - and the mapping has made 
it easier to explore the neighbourhood once you've found it.
So now my locations are slowly getting Lats and Longs added from the 
mapping.


Cathy

At 08:10 PM 4/06/2008, you wrote:

I have just upgraded to Legacy 7 so thought I would give Geo Location
another try.  Just too frustrating with non-US locations because it 
does not
recognise most places and screws up others by adding US locations on 
to the
end of a perfectly valid non-US location because it find somewhere in 
the US

with a similar name.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Italicized Names

[John Magyari]

Thank u that was it.

thanks,
john

Mike Fry wrote:

John Magyari wrote:
In the Index Tab I see some names are italicized as well as all other 
info on that line, and others are not.


Can someone tell me why this occurs?


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[LegacyUG] Italicized Names

[John Magyari]

In the Index Tab I see some names are italicized as well as all other 
info on that line, and others are not.


Can someone tell me why this occurs?

john



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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Relationship Report

[John Magyari]

In Legacy7 just got today the relationship calculator is great

I loaded a Royal Database From Europe
Some of the relationships I can see in this database
64th Great Grandfather
Husband of 1st cousin 15 times removed
Wife of 35th Great Grand Uncle
Mother of Son-In-Law
Husband of 14th Great Grand Aunt
Husband of 27 great-grandmother
Husband of 2nd great grandfather

For Queen Elizabeth II Of England married to Prince Phillip here's the 
relationships

Relationship Chart
Looks like they were
2nd Cousins Once Removed
3rd Cousins
4th Cousins
4th Cousins Once Removed
6th cousins
6th cousins once removed
... many more to many to list
30th cousins 4 times removed
also
husband and wife

Elizabeth_ii Alexandra Mary Windsor Queen Of England [52] is the 2nd 
cousin once removed * of Philip Mountbatten Prince [57]


   Common Ancestor

 * Christian_ix King Of Denmark [225]
  (1818-1906)
* Louise Of_hesse-Cassel Princess [226]
  (1817-1898)
   Married 1842 [74]
  |
  
  |  |
  |  |
* William George_i Of_the_hellenes Oldenburg King Of Greece [227] 
Edward_vii Wettin King Of England [4]

 (1845-1913) (1841-1910)
 Olga Constantinovna Princess [228]  * Alexandra Of_denmark "Alix" 
Princess [12]

 (1851-1926) (1844-1925)
  Married 1867 [75]Married 10 Mar 1863 [2]
  |  |
  |  |
   * Andrew Of_greece Prince [104] * George_v Windsor King Of 
England [14]

 (1882-1944) (1865-1936)
 Alice Of_battenberg Princess [101] Mary_of_teck (May) Queen [30]
   (1885-Abt 1969)   (1867-1953)
  Married 1903 [28]Married 6 Jul 1893 [7]
  |  |
  |  |
  * Philip Mountbatten Prince [57]* George_vi Windsor King Of 
England [32]

  (1921-  )  (1895-1952)
  Elizabeth Angela Marguerite 
Bowes-Lyon Lady [51]

  (1900-  )
  Married 26 Apr 1923 [12]
 |
 |
 * Elizabeth_ii Alexandra Mary Windsor 
Queen Of England [52]

  (1926-  )

Elizabeth_ii Alexandra Mary Windsor Queen Of England [52] is the 3rd 
cousin of Philip Mountbatten Prince [57]


   Common Ancestor

 * Albert Augustus Charles Prince [2]
  (1819-1861)
* Victoria Hanover Queen Of England [1]
  (1819-1901)
Married 10 Feb 1840 [1]
  |
  
  |  |
  |  |
* William George_i Of_the_hellenes Oldenburg King Of Greece [227] 
Edward_vii Wettin King Of England [4]

 (1845-1913) (1841-1910)
 Olga Constantinovna Princess [228]  * Alexandra Of_denmark "Alix" 
Princess [12]

 (1851-1926) (1844-1925)
  Married 1867 [75]Married 10 Mar 1863 [2]
  |  |
  |  |
   * Andrew Of_greece Prince [104] * George_v Windsor King Of 
England [14]

 (1882-1944) (1865-1936)
 Alice Of_battenberg Princess [101] Mary_of_teck (May) Queen [30]
   (1885-Abt 1969)   (1867-1953)
  Married 1903 [28]Married 6 Jul 1893 [7]
  |  |
  |  |
  * Philip Mountbatten Prince [57]* George_vi Windsor King Of 
England [32]

  (1921-  )  (1895-1952)
  Elizabeth Angela Marguerite 
Bowes-Lyon Lady [51]

  (1900-  )
  Married 26 Apr 1923 [12]
  

Re: [LegacyUG] Using Legacy on 2 Computers

[John Magyari]

I like to use a USB Flash drive, and keep backup copies on the hard 
drives of both my laptop and desktop computers.


DLevenick wrote:

If I want to use Legacy on a desktop and a laptop, is it better to keep the
data files on the desktop and move them to a portable drive for access by
the laptop? Or is it just as useful to keep the data on a portable hard
drive and access it off either computer? I can't find a reference to this
scenario I the manual and would appreciate ideas.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Training Videos

[John Magyari]

Here's a toll free number, why don't you call them Tuesday morning and 
order a copy


800-753-3453

I'm sure they would be happy to sell you a copy.

They have been working very hard over the last few months,  hopefully 
the sales staff has the weekend and US holiday off.


jdm

Keith Bage wrote:

I found the videos after all. I also need to know if these are really
different to V5 videos.

It's somewhat ironic that I can buy the v7 videos but not Legacy 7 itself.

Keith




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Re: [LegacyUG] getting DELUXE Legacy 7

[John Magyari]

When it's Deluxe you will see it

Help->About Legacy

Lower left Corner of image will display
Deluxe Edition

This is the way most programs that are being sold today display the 
version information, you can try it on all your office applications


Help-> About XYZ
and see what u have

jdm

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How can I get the Deluxe Version in 7?   I've tried putting in my Deluxe 
Number, with dashes, but didn't seem to be  there.  Will it be on the Help Screen, 
showing I have DELUXE or where?  





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy V7 and Acess 2000

[John Magyari]

Most people should be discouraged from doing this with the Legacy 
Database or any other databases other Program use to store data, it's 
like editing your Registry.
If you do or try, unless you know what you're doing, and if the database 
becomes non functional, then you start from scratch.


For those who are doing it today with Rev 6, it's the same MS database 
with new tables/data.


jdm



Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:

Can the Legacy V7 database still be opened in Access same as V6?

Thanks
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Re: [LegacyUG] IE7 Required (Trouble)

[John Magyari]

Complaining about IE7.

Sounds like your looking for the CPM operating system,  it was much more 
stable then Bill Gates stuff at the time.

Relatively resistant to new Viruses as well.
And most versions work with 10" diskettes,  now that's something you'll 
never get with Vista or XP.

The days before IE7 sometimes one forgets what it was like.

IE7 been out since Oct 2006,  report you dislikes to Microsoft about 
their problems.  IE8 is already out.


Bill's guy's are currently working on IE9 which is probably frozen for 
new features, IE10 working on coding, and IE11 on the drawing board.
Give Bill a call,  I'm sure he'd love to hear your comments, you'll need 
a credit card unless you currently have a service contract.


My 3 and 6 year old grand children are using IE7 on their XP systems,  
I'll check to see their having any issues with it.


Wynthner wrote:

IMHO, Legacy requiring IE7 for certain functions is the biggest blunder by a 
software company since Ancestry introduced FTM2008!
It *will* act as a factor limiting sales, I know several people who won't touch 
IE7 with a 25 foot pole.


- Original Message 
From: Kirsten Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup 
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 12:11:06 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] IE7 Required (Trouble)


I've read that Internet Explorer is required for some of the new Legacy
features.  If you have one of several Norton products and use IE7 to access
Ancestry.com, either directly or via Legacy, you may find screens or digital
images freezing or refusing to load or shut down..  This is not a Legacy
problem but is a conflict between IE7 and Norton.  If you have a combination
of IE7 and a Norton product and notice these problems, they can most easily
be corrected via an online chat with Norton/Symantec.

Hope this may help someone and avoid complaints to the LUG list.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 features and specifications

[John Magyari]

Did you watch the videos?

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Videos.asp

John Gregson wrote:
I am not yet a user of Legacy, but I do use another high end 
genealogy program.

I have been monitoring the LUG List.
 
Is there anywhere a feature List for this new version?

I like what I see for version 6 and am interested in version 7.
Surely it would not take much effort for the Legacy folk to place such 
a List on a simple Web Page.
 
John.
 
 


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Re: [LegacyUG] All in One Report.

[John Magyari]

What versions of FTM and PAF programs are you referring to?
And are you referring to Charts or Reports?

My version of FTM2008 the one you pay for doesn't have it in it.
Does you friend have a free version that  has it?,  I didn't think they 
had a free version.


FTM 2008 has the following from the help file
The list below displays the categories and reports available.
Person Reports
Relationship Reports
Place Reports
Media Reports
Source Reports
Books

The list below displays the categories and charts available. Click a 
chart for a description of the chart and directions on how to format the 
chart.

Pedigree Chart
Descendant Chart
Relationship Chart

PAF Charting Companion 5.2 the one you pay for doesn't have All-In-One 
Charts, is there a free version that does?


The Charts I produce in Legacy to me look much better than the one I can 
produce in my FTM2008 version and *PAF Companion 5.2.*  But then again 
every program does things differently.


Please contact your friend and find out what free versions he's using to 
accomplish this I'd like to try them myself.
Also ask your friend to compare the charts he is able to do today with 
his FTM and PAF versions that I don't have with LegacyCharting.
I assume he's already using the free demo offered by Legacy for 
charting, it would be interesting to hear his feedback

http://www.legacycharting.com/

Have him send in new feature or enhancement requests to
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp

some of the suggestions I've made in the past to the link above have 
already be included in the new Legacy Release.


Like most companies if they get enough requests for the same feature, 
they seriously consider it for future releases over those they get one 
or 2 requests for.


Look for to seeing what version your friend is using if he could send 
links that would be great.


jdm

Colin Liddell wrote:
I have a friend to whom I recommended Legacy, I suggested he use the 
free version for a while to see if it would do what he required.
After looking at the type of reports available in Legacy compared to 
FTM and PAF he found he could not replicate the All in One Report in 
the free version of Legacy that is available in FTM .
His question was, is it possible to do this in the De Luxe version and 
if so, how?


I tried to do this in my De Luxe version and was not successful, I 
obviously don't know enough about the program yet, being a very new 
user.{;-).


Can anyone tell me how to make an All in One report in Legacy similar 
to the one in FTM.


I look forward to any suggestions from this very knowledgeable group.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Customized Searches SSDI

[John Magyari]

The search string field
http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/ZSearch.aspx?zfn=[FirstName]&zln=[Surname]&Submit=++Search++&qt=l&ix=ssdiall&id=1034&cpn=myap1034

In the data preparation field
[ ]=[%20] this might be hard to read depending on your font,  there are 
three characters before the equal sign,"Open Bracket""Space""Closed Bracket"


Robert Carneal USA wrote:

John-

Could you do another one for us please? I make heavy use of the SSDI 
site, located on:

http://www.ssdi-search.com/

Thank you.

Robert Carneal


John Magyari wrote:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSfn=[FirstName]&GSmn=&GSln=[Surname]&GSby=&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=&GSdyrel=in&GScntry=0&GSst=0&GSob=n
[ ]=[%20]


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Re: [LegacyUG] Customized Searches Find A Grave

[John Magyari]

Not sure what you are referring to. Please email me offline.  I can 
usually figure out things even if I've never worked with them before.  
I'll see if I can help.


jdm

Robert Carneal USA wrote:

John-

Thank you for this URL I have saved it.  One more piece to the puzzle, 
though. Would would be the data preparation code for this particular 
URL? Do you know? If you are not sure what I am asking I can send a 
screen shot with that field highlighted.


Thank you.

Robert

John Magyari wrote:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSfn=[FirstName]&GSmn=&GSln=[Surname]&GSby=&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=&GSdyrel=in&GScntry=0&GSst=0&GSob=n 


[ ]=[%20]

Larry Wilson wrote:
If anyone has a customized version for Find a Grave, passing first 
name and Last, I would like a copy.
 
Larry  
/---Original Message---/
 
/*From:*/ John Magyari <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

/*Date:*/ 5/22/2008 12:56:42 PM
/*To:*/ LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
<mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>

/*Subject:*/ [LegacyUG] Customized Searches
 
I created a customized version for Ellis Island passing first name and

last below:
 
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?FNM=[FirstName]&LNM=[Surname]&first_kind=1 

 
[ ]=[%20]
 
I was wondering if any out there have some customized searches they

would share with the group.
 
Maybe to smgf.org, or some of the pages on the stevemorse.org site or

others you find helpful.
 
thanks,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Customized Searches Find A Grave

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http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSfn=[FirstName]&GSmn=&GSln=[Surname]&GSby=&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=&GSdyrel=in&GScntry=0&GSst=0&GSob=n
[ ]=[%20]

Larry Wilson wrote:
If anyone has a customized version for Find a Grave, passing first 
name and Last, I would like a copy.
 
Larry 
 
/---Original Message---/
 
/*From:*/ John Magyari <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

/*Date:*/ 5/22/2008 12:56:42 PM
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<mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>

/*Subject:*/ [LegacyUG] Customized Searches
 
I created a customized version for Ellis Island passing first name and

last below:
 
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?FNM=[FirstName]&LNM=[Surname]&first_kind=1
 
[ ]=[%20]
 
I was wondering if any out there have some customized searches they

would share with the group.
 
Maybe to smgf.org, or some of the pages on the stevemorse.org site or

others you find helpful.
 
thanks,

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[LegacyUG] Customized Searches

[John Magyari]

I created a customized version for Ellis Island passing first name and 
last below:


http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?FNM=[FirstName]&LNM=[Surname]&first_kind=1

[ ]=[%20]

I was wondering if any out there have some customized searches they 
would share with the group.


Maybe to smgf.org, or some of the pages on the stevemorse.org site or 
others you find helpful.


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Re: [LegacyUG] PDFs

[John Magyari]

I reproduced same results, missing right and bottom border.
I will forward to the BETA program.
john

ronald ferguson wrote:

Maria,

I have now checked the PDFs from both a Legacy Descendant Chart and Legacy Charting. In 
the case of the latter I only created enough generations for it to fit on one page (one 
as it happens). In the Legacy Charting Set-up I set it to "fit page" (A4) and 
similarly set the Legacy Descendant Chart to A4.

Both PDFs were the same size (8.22x11.65  for Legacy Desc. Chart and 8.26x11.69 
Legacy Charting)

However when I used a border on the Legacy Charting PDF the right-hand border 
and the bottom border were cut off. Without the border it looked OK and was 
still the same size as the other PDF.

It looks like they have solved the main problem, in that previous large chunks 
of the charts were being cut off, but not quite got the borders right yet.


Ron Ferguson

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Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:49:40 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PDFs


Using version

Legacy Version 6.0.0.190

Legacy Chart 7.0.094



I went back and created PDFs again in both applications saw different 
dimensions for PDFs, the Legacy Chart being smaller with the right and bottom 
border/margin missing.


Maria

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:41 AM, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Maria,

Have you checked that you have the latest version of Legacy Charting 
(7.0.094.645) and that your charts were made using this version? It was a known 
problem but I understood that this problem had been resolved, otherwise it 
hasn't!

Ron Ferguson

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Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 07:26:52 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] PDFs





I created a Ancestor Book in Legacy and saved as PDF.

I then created several charts in Legacy Charting as PDFs.

I'd like to send out PDFs for family members to print themselves.





When I inserted the Charts into my Ancestor Book PDF, I noticed that the size 
of the chart PDF pages were 8 x 10.67 inches and the Legacy Pages are 8.5 x 11 
inches.



Also the charts seem to have a margin around the top and left hand size, but 
seem to be missing margins from the bottom and right hand side,  is this 
because the pages created 8 x 10.67 inches are to small?



Is there something I'm suppose to set to get 8.5 x 11 inch pages in Legacy 
Charting?





Thanks,

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[LegacyUG] Export To File Kicks back 2 menus if problem, and DPI entry check

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7.0.0.96 Legacy Chart

1) Should there be a check to only allow legal DPI levels to be typed
in??

2) If during Export To File an error occurs
(ie Illegal File Name,  DPI to Large, etc.)

you should be kicked back to the EXPORT To File Menu after the error
message is displayed and cleared.

The following is the menu you should be kicked back to

[LegacyUG] Reset to Default Chart Parameters

[John Magyari]

7.0.096 Legacy Chart

1) Is there a way to force a chart type to be reset to the original defaults
ie Font Size, what gets displayed etc.)

vs always using what the last parameters that a chart was using?

a reset to defaults button to click would be prefered, if not pressed 
use last settings for particular chart.


2) Enhancement request,  allow user to type what they want for defaults 
in a file, to be used if reset to default is clicked.

IE a editable text file
Default Standard Chart.txt
Name, New TIme Roman CE, 16, Bold/Itralic/Underline, Left, Left
Birth, Palentino, 8,  Bold, Right, Center
Death,Time New Roman, 16, none, Left, Center
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Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names In Given Field for Reports and Charts

[John Magyari]

Thank you.

You explanation was very helpful.

john

Cathy wrote:

Hi John,

Whether I use a Quoted Name or an AKA is a decision I make on an 
individual basis after asking the question "Do I want this name to be 
the one used in narratives?" If yes - it has to be a quoted name. If 
no - it's an AKA.


I think the difference is between a name that is always or mostly used 
by everyoneor almost everyone (familiar) as opposed to a name that is 
used by a few (nickname).


For example: My mother was known as Joyce. This was her third given 
name so it would be wrong to call it a nickname but to have it used in 
narrative it must be added as a Quoted Name.
Her school friends called her "T". All her life she received letters 
from some which began "Dear T".

This is a nickname that I have in the AKAs.

Her brother was known as Roy. This wasn't one of his given names so a 
true nickname but everyone knew him as Roy all his life - so it's 
entered as a Quoted Name.
Another example: My nephew Richard is mostly known as Richard. However 
many of his cousins call him "Wretched" and he still signs himself 
"Wretched" in some situations (and so he was for a short time in his 
adolescence ;-) but not now as a father of 4). I've entered it as an 
AKA as it's not in general use - however I wouldn't want to ignore it 
as it's there in letters and cards.


Cathy

At 10:00 AM 1/05/2008, you wrote:

Thanks.

For some reason, which I thought I saw in LegacyUG that some might 
enter Nick names via [[ ]]


When looking at the help it seems to imply to use AKA for Nicknames 
and use double quotes for familiar names.

I guess I've always thought a familiar name was a nickname.

I'm going to go back and start using double quotes for familiar names.

1) What's the difference between a familiar name and a nick name?

From Help section:

Given

Enter all the given names for the individual.  This includes the 
first name and all middle names.  Don't include nicknames or 
alternate names which should be entered by clicking on the  icon to 
the right of the Surname field. Given names can be up to 120 
characters long.




You can enter a "familiar" name as part of the given names by 
enclosing it in quotes.  For example, Margaret "Peggy" Ann.  This 
familiar name can then be used in narrative paragraphs when a book 
report is generated.  (See the Use Quoted Names for Narratives topic 
in the Format tab section of Report Options.)


thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names In Given Field for Reports and Charts

[John Magyari]

Thanks.

For some reason, which I thought I saw in LegacyUG that some might enter 
Nick names via [[ ]]


When looking at the help it seems to imply to use AKA for Nicknames and 
use double quotes for familiar names.

I guess I've always thought a familiar name was a nickname.

I'm going to go back and start using double quotes for familiar names.

1) What's the difference between a familiar name and a nick name?

From Help section:

*Given*

Enter all the given names for the individual.  This includes the first 
name and all middle names.  Don't include nicknames or alternate names 
which should be entered by clicking on the  icon to the right of the 
*Surname* field. Given names can be up to 120 characters long.




You can enter a "familiar" name as part of the given names by enclosing 
it in quotes.  For example, *Margaret "Peggy" Ann*.  This familiar name 
can then be used in narrative paragraphs when a book report is 
generated.  (See the *Use Quoted Names for Narratives *topic in the 
*Format* tab section of Report Options .)



thanks,
john


Cathy wrote:

The option to choose is coming in Legacy Charting.
The Quoted name will then either be able to be removed or used as the 
First Name as it can be in Legacy itself.


I think it's always best to enter using the conventions of the program 
rather than making your own.


If you use Privacy brackets for including or excluding nicknames, do 
you always print the privacy brackets? If you don't, then how do 
people know which name is a Nickname rather than one of the Given names?


And what do you do with other Private material? You may want to 
include Nicknames but not everything else you've marked as private 
with Privacy brackets.


Cathy

At 12:32 AM 1/05/2008, you wrote:
How do you think a charting program should display Names in Charts 
when entered in Legacy

Given: Givename "Nickname" Middlename
Surname: Surname


a) Givename "Nickname" Middlename Surname
b) Givename Middlename Surname
c) "Nickname" Surname
d) option to select from above
e) Something else

I had been entering Nicknames myself [[Nickname]] so I might be able 
to suppress it when I wish, in the given name field with [[ ]] vs 
AKA.  Now I'm wondering if maybe ""Nickname" is a better way to go.


I guess for me the key would be whats best when considering doing 
reports and charts in the future.


john

Cathy wrote:

Hi Ron,
You can't change the sentence wording for AKAs. But note you can 
enter Nicknames as Quoted Names and have them used in narratives.
See the Help file and make sure you check the options on the Format 
tab in Reports so that the quoted name is picked up as the First Name.


This may solve your dilemma.

I don't use AKAs much but use Quoted Names extensively as most of my 
mother's family went by a name other than their first name.

So, for example, my mother is entered
Edith Beryl Joyce "Joyce", her sister Winifred Kate "Freda", her 
brother Robert Walter Osment "Roy", etc


If I'd put Joyce in as AKA the sentence is a nonsense. Joyce wasn't 
another name for her. It was the name she was known by all her life.


Cheers,
Cathy

At 02:02 AM 25/04/2008, you wrote:

Is there a way to change the sentence wording on reports for 
Nicknames/AKAs?  I have looked in help, but cannot find it.


Thanks to all in advance,

Ron





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[LegacyUG] Quoted Names In Given Field for Reports and Charts

[John Magyari]

How do you think a charting program should display Names in Charts when 
entered in Legacy

Given: Givename "Nickname" Middlename
Surname: Surname


a) Givename "Nickname" Middlename Surname
b) Givename Middlename Surname
c) "Nickname" Surname
d) option to select from above
e) Something else

I had been entering Nicknames myself [[Nickname]] so I might be able to 
suppress it when I wish, in the given name field with [[ ]] vs AKA.  Now 
I'm wondering if maybe ""Nickname" is a better way to go.


I guess for me the key would be whats best when considering doing 
reports and charts in the future.


john

Cathy wrote:

Hi Ron,
You can't change the sentence wording for AKAs. But note you can enter 
Nicknames as Quoted Names and have them used in narratives.
See the Help file and make sure you check the options on the Format 
tab in Reports so that the quoted name is picked up as the First Name.


This may solve your dilemma.

I don't use AKAs much but use Quoted Names extensively as most of my 
mother's family went by a name other than their first name.

So, for example, my mother is entered
Edith Beryl Joyce "Joyce", her sister Winifred Kate "Freda", her 
brother Robert Walter Osment "Roy", etc


If I'd put Joyce in as AKA the sentence is a nonsense. Joyce wasn't 
another name for her. It was the name she was known by all her life.


Cheers,
Cathy

At 02:02 AM 25/04/2008, you wrote:

Is there a way to change the sentence wording on reports for 
Nicknames/AKAs?  I have looked in help, but cannot find it.


Thanks to all in advance,

Ron





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[LegacyUG] MAC

[John Magyari]

I getting ready to do a mailing to my relatives.

I'd like them to check the info I have on them and get any additional 
info they might be able to contribute.


Ideally I'd like them to send me back any info in gedcom or Legacy
format.

Does any one have any recommendations of what programs I can recommend 
to them if they are MAC users to input the data before returning it to

me?

thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting a Legacy file to Access

[John Magyari]

Your right in GENViewer u can only sort via one column at a time.

But Genviewer allows you to easily export to a comma, delimited text 
file which you can then do sorts on multiple levels with OpenOffice 
Excel equivalent.


You don't have to create SQL Querys on multiple tables in the Database 
if you use GENViewer.  There's 28 tables in the Legacy database, if like 
to write SQL queries go for it,  if you want the data in one easy to 
manipulate spreedsheet, GENViewer can get there for you,  with 
accidentally messing up the database by going in there directly.  I do 
it both ways but think for many GENViewer would be easier.


Here's a dump of the columns GENViewer can provide to a spreadsheet 
program, hopefully one that's knows how to handle dates which MS Excel 
only handles if after 1900.


Index,RIN,User ID,Surname,Given,Full Name,"Surname, Given",Birth 
Date,Birth Place,Chr Date,Chr Place,Death Date,Death Place,Burial 
Date,Burial Place,Mar Place,Mar Date,Spouse,"Spouse (Last, 
First)",Father,"Father (Last, First)",Mother,"Mother (Last, 
First)",Relationship,Common Ancestor,"Common Ancestor (L, F)",#Anc,A 
Gens,Avg A Gens,#Des,D Gens,Avg D Gens,#Mars,#Pars,#Chds,Age,Mar. Age,F. 
Age,M. Age,Sex,AFN,Note,Has Note,Has Source,Has Events,Island 
#,Alive,Sur Sdx,Name Sdx,Create Date,Modify Date,Birth/[C] 
Date,Birth/[C] Place,Death/[B] Date,Death/[B] 
Place,Father/Mother(M)/Spouse(S),"Father/Mother(M)/Spouse(S) (L, 
F)","Spouse/Father(F)/Mother(M) (F, L)","Spouse/Father(F)/Mother(M) (L, 
F)",LDS,LDS B,LDS B Temple,LDS E,LDS E Temple,LDS SP,LDS SP Temple,LDS 
SS,LDS SS Temple


In one to two minutes you can dump your whole database to a comma 
delimted text file to sort whatever way u want.


As you can see there's some columns which also tell age, age married, # 
ancestors, #children, etc.  already calculated as well.


john

Gary Templeman wrote:
That will only give you the option to sort by one item at a time. One 
of her messages seemed to indicate she wanted to sort by one criteria, 
then take a sub-group from that list and sort by another criteria, 
then do the same again with another criteria. She said "where I can 
search the birth years, and then search again *in that search* 
(emphasis mine) for the place and then the father." You cannot use a 
single column sort to narrow down multiple variables.


Gary Templeman


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To: 
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting a Legacy file to Access



Have you tried looking at your data with genviewer?
Once loaded, it can read your legacy file directly or a gedcom, 
select list mode, indicate what columns you want, click on top of 
columns to sort by that option.

It has a nice scripting language as well to highlight selected items.
It can also dump all columns to comma delimited text file. (CTRL-C)

here's a link from the Legacy Family site
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/GENViewerDownload.asp

Excel has problems with dates older than 1900.  If you use a 
spreadsheet program to look at extracted data use open office instead.


john


Valerie Garton wrote:
I would like to export a file from Legacy and then import it in to 
Access.


Could some one please give me directions.

I have looked at the help files in Legacy and Access and can not 
find the

inforamtion to do the above.

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, 
DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow &

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Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting a Legacy file to Access

[John Magyari]

Have you tried looking at your data with genviewer?
Once loaded, it can read your legacy file directly or a gedcom, select 
list mode, indicate what columns you want, click on top of columns to 
sort by that option.

It has a nice scripting language as well to highlight selected items.
It can also dump all columns to comma delimited text file. (CTRL-C)

here's a link from the Legacy Family site
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/GENViewerDownload.asp

Excel has problems with dates older than 1900.  If you use a spreadsheet 
program to look at extracted data use open office instead.


john


Valerie Garton wrote:

I would like to export a file from Legacy and then import it in to Access.

Could some one please give me directions.

I have looked at the help files in Legacy and Access and can not find the
inforamtion to do the above.

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. 
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow &
Wexford 
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[LegacyUG] Renumbering RINs

[John Magyari]

I'm in the process of renumbering RINS

1) Each time I select a record to change a RIN

the BOX Log all changes to a text file is checked

If I previously unchecked this box, I would assume that the next time I 
go to make a RIN change the box would not be checked, but it's always 
checked when I go to make another change.


Is this happening because I need to change a global parameter somewhere?

2) In fact I wouldn't mind it being the default but each time it is 
checked, 
but I'm always prompted --->>> Would you like to view the report of the 
changes that were made?

Is there a way for me to turn this message off?

3) Is there an easier way than?
Select an Individual
Menu-> Tools  -> Renumber RINs

it would be nice to rick click on an Individual and select Renumber 
RINS, to help minimize mouse movement.


thanks,
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[LegacyUG] Creating Stripped down Gedcoms

[John Magyari]

I want to send out info to relatives to have them check what I have so 
far on them and descendants is correct and also to see if they can add 
additional info.
AT the same time some relatives might not want my complete tree being 
sent to everyone and I'd like to have them to concentrate on their own 
info as well.


SO I want to create stripped down Gedcoms which contains info focused on

them from my master gedcom file.

Once I have the stripped down gedcoms,  I'd like to send them a Self 
Generated Gedcom they can view with Genviewer and get them to enter 
additional info into Legacy which they can then send back to me.



?
Based on the 4 conditions below
A) Can Genviewer or Legacy 6 create stripped down gedcoms ? 
B) Are there any other programs that you are aware of 
that has a good scripting language that would let me specify conditions,


then create a gedcom of only those individuals found?


Here's some initial conditions that I would like to do first

1) The first case would be to select an individual and create a gedcom 
that would include the individual, all their descendants and TWO 
generations of the individuals ancestors.


Similar to using Genviewer and using the Highlighting feature
+Ancestors of  2 Generation
or
+Descendants of  0(Zero) Generations (Which would include all)

I'd like to create a gedcom of the above highlighted by Gedviewer and 
the Individual used as a starting point.


2) Same as #1 but include siblings
+Ancestors of  2 Generation
or
+Descendants of  0(Zero) Generations (Which would include all)
or
+Sibling is

3) Create a gedcom for the following:
Individual A and Individual B
Create a Gedcom that shows only those individuals in the ancestor lines 
that connect Individual A & Individual B.

ie

Cousin A-> Cousin A's Dad-> Cousin's A's Dad's Mother&Dad
Cousin B-> Cousin B's Mother -> Cousin B's Mother's Mother&Dad
it's possible there may be multiple paths.

This would be similar to Genbox's Convergent Chart which shows the 
lineage paths between two or more starting individuals.

But I'm looking to extract those individuals to a gedcom.

4) Same as #3 add siblings


thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Gen Viewer

[John Magyari]

Genviewer is a great program by MudCreek Software.
It's used as an addition tool to Legacy allow you to look at your 
information from a different perspective.


They have a 15 day demo version,  and also a completly free lite version.

Here's 2 links from our Legacy Site
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/_Lists.asp
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/GENViewerDownload.asp

Links to Mudcreek site
http://www.mudcreeksoftware.com/genviewer.htm
http://www.mudcreeksoftware.com/genviewer_lite.htm

The full version allows you to create Read Only Self-Viewing Gedcoms 
which you can send to  others to easily view your data, even if they are 
not genealogy experts.


The scripting language allows you to search via the following conditions 
and the conditions can be used in combination with each other to view 
what's in your file.


Vital (Birth, Burial, Christening, Death) Information Conditions
Any Place
Birth Place
Burial Place
Christening Place
Death Place
Has No Birth Date
Has No Birth Place
Has No Burial Date
Has No Burial Place
Has No Christening Date
Has No Christening Place
Has No Death Date
Has No Death Place
Individual Information Conditions
Age
Custom ID
Has AFN
Has Age
Has Any Note
Has Any Source
Has Birth Note
Has Birth Source
Has Burial Note
Has Burial Source
Has Christening Note
Has Christening Source
Has Death Note
Has Death Source
Has Ind Note
Has Name Note
Has Name Source
Has No Given Name
Has No Surname
Is Alive
Given Names
Given Soundex
Marriage Place
Sex Type
Surname
Surname Soundex
Text in Notes
# Ancestors
# Children
# Daughters
# Descendants
# Familes
# Marriages
# Parents
# Sons
Family Conditions
Has No Father
Has No Mother
Relationship Conditions
Ancestors of
Child is
Descendants of
Is a Relation to
Parent is
Parent Name
Sibling is
Spouse is
Spouse Name
Sibling Name
Child Name
LDS Conditions
Has LDS Baptism
Has LDS B Date
Has LDS B Place
Has LDS Endowment
Has LDS E Date
Has LDS E Place
Has LDS Event
Has LDS Sealed to Parents
Has LDS SP Date
Has LDS SP Place
Has LDS Sealed to Spouse
Has LDS SS Date
Has LDS SS Place
LDS B Date
LDS B Place
LDS E Date
LDS E Place
LDS SP Date
LDS SP Place
LDS SS Date
LDS SS Place
Warnings / Possible Error Conditions
Children with Same Name
Couple Same Surname
Married - No Spouse
Married - Same Name
Surname is Mother's
Surname not Father's
Surname not Parent's



Shirl wrote:
 
What is Genviewer?
Ist it another software programme or a part fo legacy that I haven'y 
discovered as yet?

Thanks

When I use Genviewer and select an ancestor of mine, lets say on my 
moms side.

Then set the filtering to Descendants of
My wife, my father, my brothers wife are not highlighted, nor are any 
spouses of anyone else.
Only those starting from the selected individual and those related by 
blood are highlighted.


This is what I was trying to figure out in Legacy, how can I create a 
tag that shows the same individuals that GenViewer finds.


Genviewer 1.23
Select any individual
Apply Highlighting + Descendants of

All sons and daughters of the selected individual and all children, 
and children-children, etc. are highlighted.
No spouses, divorced spouses get highlighted, because they are not 
descendants.


john

ronald ferguson wrote:

John,

There maybe a problem with what you are asking. You say "no spouses", fair enough 
it's easy to select the descendants, tag them and then use Search>Find>Detailed Search 
and search first for those tagged and by surname. But this excludes the children of the 
daughters.

Basically searching for Descendants by surname is easy but if you exclude 
spouses then it would ignore the female side. I can see the point about a 
spouse's other partners and doubt of this would be a problem to eliminate 
(although I haven't thought about it yet) but would appreciate firstly your 
answer to my other query.


Ron Ferguson

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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:31:13 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendants - How to Tag

Legacy Deluse 6

Was watching the other thread about descendants?
Sounds like Descendants are those related by blood via the person
selected at the top of the tree.

I'd like to export to gedcom
and am not sure how I can tag the following to easily just export the
tagged individuals

Do you know how I can create tags for the following:
1) Descendants - Which I'm looking for those related by blood, (No
Spouses (I guess there are not really descendants), No one not related
via blood (Adopted, etc)

When I select Descendants for my father
Edit -> Tag records -> Descendants

there appears 2 options
a) Descendants (Include all desce

Re: [LegacyUG] Descendants - How to Tag

[John Magyari]

When I use Genviewer and select an ancestor of mine, lets say on my moms 
side.

Then set the filtering to Descendants of
My wife, my father, my brothers wife are not highlighted, nor are any 
spouses of anyone else.
Only those starting from the selected individual and those related by 
blood are highlighted.


This is what I was trying to figure out in Legacy, how can I create a 
tag that shows the same individuals that GenViewer finds.


Genview
Select any individual
Apply Highlighting + Descendants of

All sons and daughters of the selected individual and all children, and 
children-children, etc. are highlighted.
No spouses, divorced spouses get highlighted, because they are not 
descendants.


john

ronald ferguson wrote:

John,

There maybe a problem with what you are asking. You say "no spouses", fair enough 
it's easy to select the descendants, tag them and then use Search>Find>Detailed Search 
and search first for those tagged and by surname. But this excludes the children of the 
daughters.

Basically searching for Descendants by surname is easy but if you exclude 
spouses then it would ignore the female side. I can see the point about a 
spouse's other partners and doubt of this would be a problem to eliminate 
(although I haven't thought about it yet) but would appreciate firstly your 
answer to my other query.


Ron Ferguson

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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:31:13 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendants - How to Tag

Legacy Deluse 6

Was watching the other thread about descendants?
Sounds like Descendants are those related by blood via the person
selected at the top of the tree.

I'd like to export to gedcom
and am not sure how I can tag the following to easily just export the
tagged individuals

Do you know how I can create tags for the following:
1) Descendants - Which I'm looking for those related by blood, (No
Spouses (I guess there are not really descendants), No one not related
via blood (Adopted, etc)

When I select Descendants for my father
Edit -> Tag records -> Descendants

there appears 2 options
a) Descendants (Include all descendants)
My wife show up here, she's not a descendant of my father

b) Entire Descendant Line
Here my wife's first husband, who she divorced. Why would he be tagged?
Divorced not a spouse, not in any way related to my father.
When I clear and then set the relationship to my father.
This divored husband correctly shows no relationship, in the
relationship calculator.

2) Would like to be able to select Descendants as described in option 1
add also if selected adopted
add also if selected spouses

I looked at the Search Feature as well and was not sure how I could get
# 1 and #2 to be tagged.

thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendants - How to Tag

[John Magyari]

When I use Genviewer and select an ancestor of mine, lets say on my moms 
side.

Then set the filtering to Descendants of
My wife, my father, my brothers wife are not highlighted, nor are any 
spouses of anyone else.
Only those starting from the selected individual and those related by 
blood are highlighted.


This is what I was trying to figure out in Legacy, how can I create a 
tag that shows the same individuals that GenViewer finds.


Genviewer 1.23
Select any individual
Apply Highlighting + Descendants of

All sons and daughters of the selected individual and all children, and 
children-children, etc. are highlighted.
No spouses, divorced spouses get highlighted, because they are not 
descendants.


john

ronald ferguson wrote:

John,

There maybe a problem with what you are asking. You say "no spouses", fair enough 
it's easy to select the descendants, tag them and then use Search>Find>Detailed Search 
and search first for those tagged and by surname. But this excludes the children of the 
daughters.

Basically searching for Descendants by surname is easy but if you exclude 
spouses then it would ignore the female side. I can see the point about a 
spouse's other partners and doubt of this would be a problem to eliminate 
(although I haven't thought about it yet) but would appreciate firstly your 
answer to my other query.


Ron Ferguson

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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:31:13 -0800
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendants - How to Tag

Legacy Deluse 6

Was watching the other thread about descendants?
Sounds like Descendants are those related by blood via the person
selected at the top of the tree.

I'd like to export to gedcom
and am not sure how I can tag the following to easily just export the
tagged individuals

Do you know how I can create tags for the following:
1) Descendants - Which I'm looking for those related by blood, (No
Spouses (I guess there are not really descendants), No one not related
via blood (Adopted, etc)

When I select Descendants for my father
Edit -> Tag records -> Descendants

there appears 2 options
a) Descendants (Include all descendants)
My wife show up here, she's not a descendant of my father

b) Entire Descendant Line
Here my wife's first husband, who she divorced. Why would he be tagged?
Divorced not a spouse, not in any way related to my father.
When I clear and then set the relationship to my father.
This divored husband correctly shows no relationship, in the
relationship calculator.

2) Would like to be able to select Descendants as described in option 1
add also if selected adopted
add also if selected spouses

I looked at the Search Feature as well and was not sure how I could get
# 1 and #2 to be tagged.

thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendants - How to Tag

[John Magyari]

This goes back to what is the definition of a descendant.

The State Court System in Missouri
defines descendant as
Those persons who are in the blood line of the ancestor; persons who 
proceed from a body of another, such as a child, grandchild, etc.


You would be a descendant of your parents.
Your spouse would be a descendant from their parents.
Your children would be descendants form both you and your spouse(being 
their parents), and all 4 grandparents.

Your spouse is not a descendant from your parents, only his.

Here's another definition.
Family members that are born to a person and their children.

Back to your question
How does a person get descendants without having a spouse?
Our Republican Vice President, Dick Cheney prefers we don't go here.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3205613&page=1
Another example of who is a Descendant
Descendants of Dick Cheney
Certainly both of his daughters Mary and Elizabeth, and all their 
children can make this claim.
But Mary Cheney's partner Heather Poe, I just don't think would qualify 
as being a descendant of Dick Cheney.


john

Elizabeth Richardson wrote:

How does a person get descendants without having a spouse?

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson




Do you know how I can create tags for the following:
1) Descendants - Which I'm looking for those related by blood, (No 
Spouses (I guess there are not really descendants)




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[LegacyUG] Descendants - How to Tag

[John Magyari]

Legacy Deluse 6

Was watching the other thread about descendants?
Sounds like Descendants are those related by blood via the person 
selected at the top of the tree.


I'd like to export to gedcom
and am not sure how I can tag the following to easily just export the 
tagged individuals


Do you know how I can create tags for the following:
1) Descendants - Which I'm looking for those related by blood, (No 
Spouses (I guess there are not really descendants), No one not related 
via blood (Adopted, etc)


When I select Descendants for my father
Edit -> Tag records -> Descendants

there appears 2 options
a) Descendants (Include all descendants)
My wife show up here, she's not a descendant of my father

b) Entire Descendant Line
Here my wife's first husband, who she divorced.  Why would he be tagged? 
Divorced not a spouse, not in any way related to my father.

When I clear and then set the relationship to my father.
This divored husband correctly shows no relationship, in the 
relationship calculator.


2) Would like to be able to select Descendants as described in option 1
add also if selected adopted
add also if selected spouses

I looked at the Search Feature as well and was not sure how I could get 
# 1 and #2 to be tagged.


thanks,
john



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Chart -

[John Magyari]

The new program LegacyChart has the ability to generate PDF, BMP, JPG, 
PNG, TIFF, PSD images.  Are there other types of images you would like 
to see that you could use and import into your reports?


Unfortunately most charts are too large to print on a home printer,  but 
if you want to print on a home printer any of the above images can be 
forced to print on a single 8.5x11 inch page.


Most home printers will not allow one to print on 100% of the page and 
force a border making it hard to tape multiple pages together and are 
designed so consumers will spend a fortune on ink.  For most printing 
applications you'll save money bringing you pictures and charts to a 
professional printer, the professional printers they use sometimes costs 
$200,000 and up vs the $200 home printers run, usually when you look at 
how much your spending for ink you're better off bringing it to the pros.


G. C. Oliver wrote:

Keith,
I feel your pain. Sadly legacy Charting is not designed to print Charts on
standard printers. Like all of the others they have concentrated their
efforts on reinventing the wheel pioneered by FTM, TMG and Roots Magic.
I am sure that the chart would look great if printed on a 36" wide format
color printer.
Don't get me wrong I have used Legacy for a number of years even though I
have access to the other big three programs. It is by far the best Genealogy
program for more reasons than I would care to go into. The lack of native
charting has been its big weakness. I just wish that they would/could design
a portion that was centered on producing charts that could be printed on
regular printers (8.5x11,8.5x14, or even 11x17)and inserted into reports,
books etc. This would truly be unique and fill an obvious void in the
market.
Sorry, rant over.
GCO

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GeoSci
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Chart -

Luc,
This is a .pdf from PDF995 (you print to the program and it makes a
.pdf) and preserves EXACTLY what I got on my printer - an HP Office
Jet 5110 All-in-one.  The third generation is messed up (shows on
pages 2 and 4).
Keith

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:57 PM, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

 Keith,

 This is a known problem and I understand it's being worked on. Not only


the right but the bottom can also be lost. It seems to depend on the
size/type of file. You can improve matters by ensuring the page setting
covers the whole of the the page (see the re box in the little window) and
add upto 50% of the dimension.
  

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 > Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:09:17 -0400
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 > Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Chart -



 > Produced a 4 gen chart and it looked good on screen . When printed -

 > Generations 1,2 and 4 were perfect but - only right 40% (right side)
 > of 3rd generation printed - rest ??? Gone!
 > IDEAS?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Charting of Non-Related Persons

[John Magyari]

I looked at genepro in the past and found the charts looked very ugly.  
You could chart some things other software did not currently allow,  but 
the charts generated would be nothing I'd hang on my walls.


go look for yourself
http://www.genopro.com/screenshots



Dee Whiting wrote:

It's www.genopro.com.
Dee

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Mullins
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Charting of Non-Related Persons

I thought I read somewhere that the new Legacy 7 was/might contain a feature
to chart connected but non-related persons - for example connected by
marriage to distant aunts & uncles. Is this true?

Furthermore, would you be able to say specify more than two people to be
shown on such a chart  - for example to be able to chart how myself *AND* a
newly discovered fourth cousin once removed, both connect to my ancient
first cousin seven times removed, all on the one chart.

I can't find such a chart in the new pre-release Legacy 7.0 Charting,
perhaps it will be in the Relationship Calculator print facility in the
actual Legacy 7.0 program itself.

If not, can anyone suggest an add-on program that might achieve this?

TIA

Regards

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Re: [LegacyUG] Family File to Legacy Chart Trial Copy

[John Magyari]

Select Create A New Chart
Select Browse for File

and Legacy will find all files you can use to  create charts.

There are other ways, but this way is very easy.



WALTER D. CONNER wrote:
When I first downloaded the trial copy of Legacy Charting program, the 
family file I was using in Legacy 5 appeared automatically in the file 
list for the charting program. Since then, I have created a new family 
file and upgraded to Legacy 6. I could not figure out how to get the 
new family file into the charting program so I deleted the old family 
file from the list of Legacy Charting, uninstalled the charting 
program and reloaded it thinking that it would automatically pick up 
the new, currently used family file, it did not.


How do I get the currently used family file to link from Legacy 6 to 
Legacy Charting, please?


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[LegacyUG] Primary Surname and AKA Names, Charts, same person different spellings

[John Magyari]

Some of my ancestors came from the Lemko region of the Carpathian 
Mountains in Austria Hungary, and were Greek Catholics ?


When reviewing the Church records (written Polish/Latin/Kinda of 
Combinations of Something) Births, Deaths, Marriages for a period of 
even 20 years,  I might find 5 different spellings in the church records 
for Surnames and Given names of the same individual (based on recorded 
marriage and children's birth records, and then death records)


Ie Surname
Joannes Waranka
Joanes Warjanka
Joinnes Warianka
Jan Waryanka
Joannes Varanka

All same person.

How do others record variations, do you record every variation?

Then how do you decide what name to use as the primary?

In my family over the years some modern day branches have chosen all 5 
different branches.


I'm now trying to figure out what name to use as the primary for ancestors.

Then when it comes to charting,  It might be nice to include all AKAs.

Depending on what branch of the family tree I might be charting the 
different branches might have one of the 5 variations,  how would one 
notate based on the Charts being printed.


When it comes to Charting depending on who wants what,  the ability to 
select from any AKA would be WONDERFUL,  I currently do not know of any 
Charting program that would allow me to change on the fly depending on 
the Charts being created.


During some periods of time many ancestors could not read or write 
themselves,  Church records have spellings all over the place, some not 
even close sometimes.


What's are your thoughts?

thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

[John Magyari]

Thank you clearing and resetting is now giving the correct results.

thanks

Dawn Crowley wrote:
I'm using version 6.0.0.190.  Both the pedigree screen and the family 
view show the appropriate relationships--including step & half 
relatives.  BTW, the relationship to whom is dependent upon who was 
selected when setting relationships.  Perhaps clearing & then setting 
relationships again would help the person with the original post.


Dawn Crowley

Myrick wrote:


Okay, you're right - I had never even noticed that relationship to ME
on the Pedigree screen.  But it still shows the same thing as it does on
the Family View on mine:  Half Uncle, Half 1st Cousin, etc.
 
I can't even guess why yours doesn't, but someone out there must know.
 
Kent Myrick
 
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From: John Magyari <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
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Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

All in the Pedigree View of Legacy 6.0

If I select my Mother's brother it shows UNCLE to the right of his
name

If I select my mother's half brother it shows nothing.

If I select my Uncles Child it shows First Cousin to the right of
his name.

I do agree my Uncle and 1st Cousin are not my ancestors but when
they are select in the Pedigree View it shows there correct
relationship to me.

Tools -> Set Relationships and set it to me.

Then select other relatives in the pedigree view.

If there's a relationship it appears to the right of their name.

1/2 Uncle nothing to the right of his name.

Are you using an old version of Legacy?

john

Myrick wrote:


The Pedigree screen shows the selected person's ancestors,
not any other relationships.
 Kent Myrick

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

When I'm looking at relations via the Pedigree Tab and select
the 1/2
Uncle nothing appears to the right of his name.

For all other relationships based on who is highlighted
Father, mother,
uncle, aunt, grandmother I do see the relationship appear to
the right
of the name.

When I do the Relationship Calculator I do see 1/2 Uncle.  I
have never
used this feature before.

Still wondering why I don't see something in the Pedigree
view though!

thanks,
john

Wendy Howard wrote:
> HI John,
>
> In the relationships displayed above the central couple in
the Family
> View, the relationship is called Uncle.  However, if you go
to the
> Relationship Calculator (under Tools in the menu) and
choose those two
> people, it will be called Half-Uncle, which is what I was
thinking I'd
> call it before I went to see what Legacy would do.  Is this
a bug?
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy Howard



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Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

[John Magyari]

All in the Pedigree View of Legacy 6.0

If I select my Mother's brother it shows UNCLE to the right of his name

If I select my mother's half brother it shows nothing.

If I select my Uncles Child it shows First Cousin to the right of his name.

I do agree my Uncle and 1st Cousin are not my ancestors but when they 
are select in the Pedigree View it shows there correct relationship to me.


Tools -> Set Relationships and set it to me.

Then select other relatives in the pedigree view.

If there's a relationship it appears to the right of their name.

1/2 Uncle nothing to the right of his name.

Are you using an old version of Legacy?

john

Myrick wrote:

The Pedigree screen shows the selected person's ancestors,
not any other relationships.
 
Kent Myrick


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*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
<mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>
*Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2008 7:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

When I'm looking at relations via the Pedigree Tab and select the 1/2
Uncle nothing appears to the right of his name.

For all other relationships based on who is highlighted Father,
mother,
uncle, aunt, grandmother I do see the relationship appear to the
right
of the name.

When I do the Relationship Calculator I do see 1/2 Uncle.  I have
never
used this feature before.

Still wondering why I don't see something in the Pedigree view though!

thanks,
john

Wendy Howard wrote:
> HI John,
>
> In the relationships displayed above the central couple in the
Family
> View, the relationship is called Uncle.  However, if you go to the
> Relationship Calculator (under Tools in the menu) and choose
those two
> people, it will be called Half-Uncle, which is what I was
thinking I'd
> call it before I went to see what Legacy would do.  Is this a bug?
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy Howard



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Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

[John Magyari]

When I'm looking at relations via the Pedigree Tab and select the 1/2 
Uncle nothing appears to the right of his name.


For all other relationships based on who is highlighted Father, mother, 
uncle, aunt, grandmother I do see the relationship appear to the right 
of the name.


When I do the Relationship Calculator I do see 1/2 Uncle.  I have never 
used this feature before.


Still wondering why I don't see something in the Pedigree view though!

thanks,
john

Wendy Howard wrote:

HI John,

In the relationships displayed above the central couple in the Family 
View, the relationship is called Uncle.  However, if you go to the 
Relationship Calculator (under Tools in the menu) and choose those two 
people, it will be called Half-Uncle, which is what I was thinking I'd 
call it before I went to see what Legacy would do.  Is this a bug?


Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard




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[LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

[John Magyari]

Legacy 6 Deluxe 6.0.0.190

In Legacy I set the relationship based on me.

If my mom's mother (my Grandmother) had a son to a previous husband (not 
my mom's dad) what should the 1/2 brother of my mom, relationship be to me.


What I'm seeing via Legacy is nothing.  Would he be a 1/2 Uncle, Uncle, 
maybe not related?


john





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[LegacyUG] Gedcom Export

[John Magyari]

Legacy 6.0.0.190

I've been exporting tagged individuals to a Gedcom so I can then import 
them into an ALL_IN-ONE-CHART so I compare graphical the selected 
changes I've made to my database.


Here's the issue below
Everytime I select

File -> Export To -> Gedcom

all the previous settings I selected are reset to defaults

I find myself having to
click on
[x] Export [[ Private ]] Information
[x] Export Private individual events
[x] Export Private Master events
[x] Export Private Individuals

Then for my Record Selection which was previous set to
All records with an individual tag of 1
and unchecked
[ ] Export all spouses of tagged individuals
[ ] Export all children of tagged individuals
[ ] Export all parents of tagged individuals

Each time I modify the items tagged I find myself having to set 
everything back to same way I last Exported a GEDCOM before I can export 
it exactly like I did the last time.


How can I get Legacy to remember to keep my last settings until I choose 
to either modify them or reset them to defaults?


thanks,
john



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Re: [LegacyUG] private persons in Legacy Charting

[John Magyari]

Check settings in 2 locations

1) Help & Options -> General ->   Then check suppress options
2) Home -> Privacy Options ->   Then check suppress options

john

JLB wrote:
I'm a little behind the times here, just getting into the new Legacy 
Charting today.  It's wonderful but I'm having a problem getting rid 
of ex-spouses whose like-ability factor went downhill some time ago 
and would not be wanted on a wall for regular viewing.  I have the 
Privacy Options set to exclude Private persons and have marked the 
offensive persons as Private in Legacy, rebooted the computer and all 
that and damn, they're still there.  Any known cure?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Reports - > Pedigree Chart -> Alternate Names

[John Magyari]

Sorry about the attachment, I screwed up and it won't happen again.

Cathy said is was grayed out. 

If you received the attachment you can see it appears as an option on 
the version


Legacy Deluxe Version 6.0.0.190


Am I using a more current version, that it's not grayed out,  and the 
feature is broken.


If you didn't get the attachment
From Legacy 6.0.0.190 This is how I get there:
Reports-> Report Menus -> Index Options

my version has a check box
Include Alternate names

are you using a different Version of Legacy than I am?

thanks and sorry about the attachment again,.
john

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John,

Your last e-mail was 231KB. Please think of the people who have to pay for dial-up by the download size and remember that no attachments and no html is permitted on LUG. That includes embedded images btw. 


An URL for the rules of etiquette is given at the bottom of all emails. 
Furthermore Cathy gave you the answer.

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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:49:21 -0800
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Reports -> Pedigree Chart -> Alternate Names


See attached which printed
1) Page 1 and page 2 No Alternate Name PDF
2) No names indexed not even the one on first page



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Cathy wrote:
Since the Pedigree Chart doesn't include Alternate Names - note the option is 
greyed out, it doesn't make sense to include them in the Index.

Cathy

At 04:35 AM 17/03/2008, you wrote:


Legacy Deluxe Version 6.0.0.190

I'm trying to print a Pedigree Chart (This is the one in Legacy 6.0, not the 
new Charting Program)

Reports
Pedigree Chart
Index Options Checked
Index Option Include Alternate Names Checked

When I do Preview I do not see the Alternate Names

Trying to create a Pedigree chart that includes Alternate names.

thanks,
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[LegacyUG] Reports - > Pedigree Chart -> Alternate Names

[John Magyari]

Legacy Deluxe Version 6.0.0.190

I'm trying to print a Pedigree Chart (This is the one in Legacy 6.0, not 
the new Charting Program)


Reports
Pedigree Chart
Index Options Checked
Index Option Include Alternate Names Checked

When I do Preview I do not see the Alternate Names

Trying to create a Pedigree chart that includes Alternate names.

thanks,
john



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting Pre-Release Edition Now Available For Free Download

[John Magyari]

Select the Icon in the upper left hand corner to the left of the words 
HOME, there you will see what you want.


Mary Young wrote:

Charting Companion Help says
"Sometimes it is more efficient, taking fewer pages, to orient your
paper to landscape rather than portrait mode before printing.  (To
make this change, go to the Home tab and choose Page Setup.) "
Well I have fallen at the first hurdle - I have selected "Home tab"
but can't see Page Setup anywhere on screen!!
Cheers
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[LegacyUG] Options For Ancestor Charts, Report Options

[John Magyari]

For a DNA testing company, they requested an ancestry chart which includes

Name
Birth date:
Birth Location:

When I select Options For Ancestor Charts, Report Options most of the 
selectable fields are grayed out.


Is there a way to create a very basic ancestor chart with Legacy 6 that 
includes the above 3 pieces of info?


Hopefully Legacy 7 or 8 might have more options in this area as well.  
Enhancement request.


thanks,
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[LegacyUG] Adding a brother to oldest known female member (don;t know hersurname) of a tree branch

[John Magyari]

1) Question for Legacy User group?

To make things easy to visualize,
Lets say I have a tree with 2 people in it

Daughter Helen Smith with her mother Judy (Don't know her surname)
Judy has a brother Bob (Don;t know his surname) I want to add to the 
Legacy Database.


How would you do the following:

If I want to add the brother to a direct line ancestor Judy who is a 
female with no parents, I know her first name but not her surname, how 
do you do it
a) would you add both a father and mother, just one parent, if so which 
one, then add Judy's brother Bob

b) how would you specify given and surnames for the mother and father

2) Question for people who use charting programs?

I now want to print out an ancestor tree for Judy that includes only 
ancestors who I have names for


how would I do this,  I'm assuming in example 1, I have to use some type 
of place holder(father, mother, both; who I don't know any names) so I 
can add Judy's brother Bob to the database.


Would you just specify create ancestor tree for Judy, and after it's 
created delete from the chart any nodes that don't have names?


thanks,
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Re: Www - Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Too Complicated??? Please change the subject, when the topic of your message changes to a new Topic

[John Magyari]

Please change  the subject, when the topic of your message changes to a 
new Topic


If you have a new topic unrelated to the original message, when doing a 
reply to message, please change the Subject as well.


thanks,
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[LegacyUG] Finding those common to a source

[John Magyari]

If I assign a common source to multiple individuals can I then do a 
search to find out all those individuals that share that source?


For example if I have 15 people who all came to the the US on the same 
ship from the same village, I then assign to all the same source, How I 
do a search and show a list of all those individuals who road together 
to the US on the same ship by searching for individuals common to a source?


thanks,
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[LegacyUG] Legacy Picture Gallery

[John Magyari]

1) Is there a way in the Picture Gallery to also display the dates under 
each picture?


If the dates were displayed I could easy and quickly sort a page of 
pictures manually.


2) Or is there an easy way to sort all Pictures In The Picture Gallery 
by date, ie sort by date, sort by caption, sort by file id?






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[LegacyUG] Legacy Training CD's just Wonderful

[John Magyari]

I'm always trying to save money and initially did not purchase the 
Training CDs and manual.  I wish I would have made the small investment 
sooner.  I recently purchased the Vol 1 and manual and will soon be 
purchasing the other CDs. I'm now doing many things I was unaware of, 
and some things that I thought I was doing correctly, I'm now doing more 
efficiently.  Yes I could spend hours trying to figure everything out by 
trial and error,  but in the long run purchasing the CDs is going to 
cost me much less in time, energy and money than learning it on my own.
Most companies don't include instruction Video's with the basic purchase 
and most charge a much greater premium for them.  Many large companies 
sometimes don't take the effort in producing any training videos, due to 
the cost and time to produce them.  This was the case for several 
multi-million dollar software companies I worked for.


Great work Legacy team.

Looking forward to Legacy 7 when it's ready.

john magyari

marilyn E B wrote:

I purchased the bundle that included the manual and 4 CDs and I find
them all useful.
I have to save for these purchases and I really wish they would let us
know what the
price version 7 will be and if there will bundles that come together.
Even that information would be helpful for me.

Marilyn

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I am hesitant to purchase the training CD collection,
and wanted feedback on whether LUG members feel they
are worth the cost.

I am one with a mindset that feels tutorials and
training should be free with purchase of software for
adequate usage.

Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Renaming Pictures

[John Magyari]

Looks like each and every file has to be done individually.

I also noticed each time I select to manually find (Browse for the file 
yourself) the 30 files I am sent to the
Default location of family files, instead of Default location of 
picture, sound, video files Picture Files which is the directory I would 
have thought I would have started in.
It would have been nice if whatever I last changed would have been 
remembered including the last file name selected considering I am going 
to change the same file 30 times.  I have to do 7 clicks each time, only 
210 clicks and I got through the whole process.


I have several Census files that I'd like to rename associated with many 
individuals, unfortunately my naming convents were not thought out when 
I first started,  maybe I'll wait until Version 7 comes out and see if 
there is possibly a Master List associated with pictures.
If there was a crc was associated with each of the images, then if files 
were renamed the first attempt in location could be to associate old 
name with new name if CRCs are identical.


thanks,
john


Jenny M Benson wrote:

John Magyari wrote

Is there an easy way to do the following

I had a shipping manifest which I created a jpg lets say 1931.jpg
Assigned it one by one to the 30 individuals using add pictures (I 
submitted enhancement request to see if tag feature could be applied 
to pictures)
Now I discovered that I misspelled the name of the picture it should 
be 1930.jpg
I rename it,  now all 30 individuals the picture was assigned to 
can't find the picture.


Similar to Masterlist where one can make a global change to certain 
information,


can I do this once without going back in 30 times and changing the name?


You can redirect Legacy to a file with a changed name this way:

Rename the file.  Then go to Options, Customise, Locations and click 
on Test All Multimedia Paths...


When the program discovers it can't file the picture by the old 
filename you will be offered several options, including Browse for the 
File Yourself.  Click on this and browse for the file with the new 
filename and select it and click Open.


Legacy will then ask you if you want to use this new filename and you 
click yes.


I don't know if Legacy will then automatically associate that new 
filename with *all* instances of the old one or not.  If it doesn't, 
you will find the correct folder opens each time you click Browse for 
the File Yourself so it is very quick to find renamed file.




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[LegacyUG] Renaming Pictures

[John Magyari]

Is there an easy way to do the following

I had a shipping manifest which I created a jpg lets say 1931.jpg
Assigned it one by one to the 30 individuals using add pictures (I 
submitted enhancement request to see if tag feature could be applied to 
pictures)
Now I discovered that I misspelled the name of the picture it should be 
1930.jpg
I rename it,  now all 30 individuals the picture was assigned to can't 
find the picture.


Similar to Masterlist where one can make a global change to certain 
information,


can I do this once without going back in 30 times and changing the name?

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[LegacyUG] Adding Multiple Pictures to a tagged group

[John Magyari]

What I would like to do is add the same 5 pictures to 100 tagged 
individuals?


What is the most efficient way to do this.

I know how to assign a tag to the 100 individuals.

If I go to Picture Center I can see my 100 individuals via a search list.

What I don't know how to do is

a) select all 5 pictures out of the 1000 I have in that directory

b) Then click once to assign them to all 100 individuals.

thanks,.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Chart printing

[John Magyari]

For a Family Reunion's it's great to be able to print an All-In-One 
Chart which contains a subset of your complete database.


First create a gedcom which is a subset of your database.  (This is  the 
hardest part,  selecting  the right multiple ancestors, and selecting 
them and their descendants.)


Then use Genbox or Family Tree Maker to create a tree with everyone 
included.  An All-In-One Chart


It's great to see a tree of ancestors for those attending a family reunion.

I like the idea of creating a tree based on blood relatives,  it would 
sure be less painful than the process I go through now.


A Tree Chart of Blood Relatives would probably be used more often than 
the All In One Charts. 

I don't think I've seen a Tree Chart of Blood Relatives in anyone's 
product out there yet, does anyone know if anyone has done this?


john

Terry Foxcroft wrote:
As well as an everyone chart, a chart with all blood relatives would 
be good. Rather than only showing the descendants, it can show 
different lines that are beyond value at family reunions. Fortunately 
I have access to a colour roll printer at work.


In Generations I printed one out for a family reunion, starting at my 
wife (it was here family).


If I had only done ancestor chart, only her direct line would be 
shown. I could have done descendant charts to get everyone, but then I 
would have to get charts for all her descendants - a huge duplication 
of effor. An all blood relations chart was fantastic.


Not many programmes have this, and the ones that do can be clunky.

Foxy - putting my bid in for an all blood relations chart.

Original Message Follows

I don't think most people would ever want to print a chart with 
everyone in

their database..  I for one have over 30,000 people in my database and a
chart for everyone would probably be a block long - how do you print that
and what would you do with it if you had it?

Most people will probably only print a few generations of ancestors 
and/or
descendants, say 5 to 10 and place them in a frame to hang on the 
wall.  If

I would try to print say 15 generations of all ancestors, my chart would
probably exceed 100 pages.   Most fan type charts for practical 
purposes are
normally limited by the user to about 5-7 generations, otherwise, you 
cannot

read the print or it gets too large to print economically.

You might want to print a direct line ancestry chart which if you 
could get
5 generations per page, then a 25 generation ancestry chart would only 
be 5
pages - that would be ok.  I have printed out over 100 generations 
like that

and it is basically 2 people per generation.

In Legacy 6, you can create a compact form of ancestors charts (Ancestor
Chart) that is very useful for determining what lines of ancestors 
that you
need to do more research on.  You can start with the youngest person 
in your
database for your family and create say 15 generations -- preview it 
first
before you sent it to a printer - you may not want to print that many 
pages.

 I would suggest you try that 1st and see if that meets your needs.





>  Can anyone tell me how to print a chart with *all* individuals in my
> family tree data base displayed.
>
> I believe there are other programs that are capable of doing this, like
> Genbox. But I wish to know if Legacy is capable of this function.
>
> I am running the deluxe version.

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[LegacyUG] Undo Accidental Delete

[John Magyari]

If one accidentally deletes something in Legacy v6

I was in the descendant view, and deleted the top entry instead on the 
entry I wanted to delete.


Is there an undo command?


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[LegacyUG] Trees

[John Magyari]

1) Is there a way in Legacy to print a tree based on

a) individual and/or
b) husband&wife

that shows all descendants as well as pedigree from option a and/or b above?

2) What about printing a tree which includes everything you input into 
Legacy?


3) What external tree printing programs add the most to those not 
available in Legacy?


thanks,
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