Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Elizabeth Richardson wrote Geoff posted that, according to programmer Dave B. (who I would think would know the program pretty well), you cannot merge old sources into the new source writer because old source detail does not convert correctly. This will be addressed sometime in the future. I don't know why some of you are continuing to try to do this. Granted the Conversion tool is not yet available and merging old sources into new does not retain the Detail. However, it is perfectly possible, as has been said several times, to do the merging and add the "missing" Detail. I call this "manual merging" as opposed to "automatic merging." Some people, me included, have chosen to do this "manual merging" now, rather than wait for the tool. Doubtless there are several different reasons for doing so: impatience probably figures quite prominently! I am finding the process a great way to get used to the new SourceWriter and learn all about the different templates. I *may* wish to continue doing it this way even when the new Tool is available as this way I have precise control over the process and can do things "my way" at every stage. It is not always a good thing to let the computer do everything its own way including doing your thinking for you! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Elizabeth, Precisely. I think the conversation long ago passed the point of being about _trying_ to do it (did you see my most recent post?) and became a conversation about clarifying exactly what _did_ happen when they merged. In point of fact, I several days ago evolved a plan for replacing the missing source details, and have most of them done; there were a lot of them. Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Elizabeth, If you don't bang your head on a brick wall how do you know how stong the wall is? :-) Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master > Sources > Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:05:59 -0800 > > I have only been loosely following this thread because I am not using the > source writer. However, Geoff posted that, according to programmer Dave B. > (who I would think would know the program pretty well), you cannot merge old > sources into the new source writer because old source detail does not > convert correctly. This will be addressed sometime in the future. I don't > know why some of you are continuing to try to do this. It seems like a case > of pounding your forehead on a brick wall. > > Elizabeth > researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson > - Original Message - > From: "Jenny M Benson" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:09 AM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > >> >> ronald ferguson wrote >>>I'm afraid that I have only loosely been following this thread. I cannot >>>understand why you do not highlight the bit of the line "Event: Census -24 >>>June 1880, Goldsberry Township..." and use Ctrl + C to copy it? >>>(Actually I don't see why you are not getting the full detail below that >>>line either, but maybe that's another story! I always check "Show entire >>>source" so that I can copy the citation date). >> >> The problem is this. Once you have combined an old-style Master Source >> with a SourceWriter Master Source, the only place you are able to see >> anything that was originally typed into Source Details (the first Detail >> screen, not Text or Comments) is in the Detail column of the upper portion >> of the Assigned Sources screen, from where it cannot be copied. >> >> It doesn't show in the Footnote/Endnote Citation showing in the lower >> portion of the screen and does not appear when you click on Edit Detail. >> >> There *is* a way to be able to Copy and Paste the old Detail, but I think >> it is much more awkward and time-consuming than simply Reading/Typing the >> old to the new. The other way is to create the new SourceWriter Master >> Source and *do not* combine the old Source into it. Go to each person >> using the old source and in Assigned Sources Ctrl-C the relevant details >> from the citation in the lower part of the window. Then click Cite a >> Master Source and select the new SourceWriter Master and Paste the >> Details. When you have done this for everyone, combine the old Source >> with the new. Then everyone will have 2 copies of that Source, old and >> new and you need to go back and delete the old one. I don't recommend >> this method! >> >> Also, what you typed before in Source Detail doesn't always match up with >> the new fields in Detail Information. >> >> I have now converted my IGI and BVRI sources to the new style and am >> working my way through adjusting the details. It is not taking long - a >> couple of evening's work and I am about half done. I feel the amount of >> detail and the look of my new Sources makes them very professional and to >> me it is time well-spent. >> -- >> Jenny M Benson >> _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001007ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
I have only been loosely following this thread because I am not using the source writer. However, Geoff posted that, according to programmer Dave B. (who I would think would know the program pretty well), you cannot merge old sources into the new source writer because old source detail does not convert correctly. This will be addressed sometime in the future. I don't know why some of you are continuing to try to do this. It seems like a case of pounding your forehead on a brick wall. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: "Jenny M Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources ronald ferguson wrote I'm afraid that I have only loosely been following this thread. I cannot understand why you do not highlight the bit of the line "Event: Census -24 June 1880, Goldsberry Township..." and use Ctrl + C to copy it? (Actually I don't see why you are not getting the full detail below that line either, but maybe that's another story! I always check "Show entire source" so that I can copy the citation date). The problem is this. Once you have combined an old-style Master Source with a SourceWriter Master Source, the only place you are able to see anything that was originally typed into Source Details (the first Detail screen, not Text or Comments) is in the Detail column of the upper portion of the Assigned Sources screen, from where it cannot be copied. It doesn't show in the Footnote/Endnote Citation showing in the lower portion of the screen and does not appear when you click on Edit Detail. There *is* a way to be able to Copy and Paste the old Detail, but I think it is much more awkward and time-consuming than simply Reading/Typing the old to the new. The other way is to create the new SourceWriter Master Source and *do not* combine the old Source into it. Go to each person using the old source and in Assigned Sources Ctrl-C the relevant details from the citation in the lower part of the window. Then click Cite a Master Source and select the new SourceWriter Master and Paste the Details. When you have done this for everyone, combine the old Source with the new. Then everyone will have 2 copies of that Source, old and new and you need to go back and delete the old one. I don't recommend this method! Also, what you typed before in Source Detail doesn't always match up with the new fields in Detail Information. I have now converted my IGI and BVRI sources to the new style and am working my way through adjusting the details. It is not taking long - a couple of evening's work and I am about half done. I feel the amount of detail and the look of my new Sources makes them very professional and to me it is time well-spent. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Jenny, OK, I see what you mean. The Sources I have with the longest Details are my Parish Registers. Currently the old one "Entire Source" output (Footnote/Endnote Citation) reads: "Parish Registers, Various Churches, Parish Registers, Eccles Parish Registers from Central Library, Manchester. Cit. Date: 6 Jan 2008" I have changed my Master Source slightly so that it now has England as the Country and I am no longer using "Various Churches" I have not used the Repository as I'm a lumper and do not want (potentially) a Master Source for every repository in England! I copied the above Footnote from "Eccles" to the end and pasted "Eccles Parish Registers from Central Library, Manchester." into the Title Box, typed "Christening Record" (I previously had not included this in the source if it related to the person being Christened) and as I have a lousy memory pasted "6 Jan 2008" into the Recorded Date box. In actual fact, of course, in each case I pasted the lot and deleted the bits that weren't for a particular box. The output from this is: Parish Registers (England), "Eccles Parish Registers from Central Library, Manchester," Christening Record. This compares favourably (for me) with the old one. The Cit Date is not there yet as this is a reported bug. Ron Ferguson (Note: It is not my policy to include chapter and verse for my sources, in this case Page and Number. I am of the opinion that given the event, name, date, publication and repository then anyone can find it with little effort. I am not given to spoon feeding (except babies)). _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:09:33 +0100 > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master > Sources > > > ronald ferguson wrote >>I'm afraid that I have only loosely been following this thread. I >>cannot understand why you do not highlight the bit of the line "Event: >>Census -24 June 1880, Goldsberry Township..." and use Ctrl + C to >>copy it? (Actually I don't see why you are not getting the full detail >>below that line either, but maybe that's another story! I always check >>"Show entire source" so that I can copy the citation date). > > The problem is this. Once you have combined an old-style Master Source > with a SourceWriter Master Source, the only place you are able to see > anything that was originally typed into Source Details (the first Detail > screen, not Text or Comments) is in the Detail column of the upper > portion of the Assigned Sources screen, from where it cannot be copied. > > It doesn't show in the Footnote/Endnote Citation showing in the lower > portion of the screen and does not appear when you click on Edit Detail. > > There *is* a way to be able to Copy and Paste the old Detail, but I > think it is much more awkward and time-consuming than simply > Reading/Typing the old to the new. The other way is to create the new > SourceWriter Master Source and *do not* combine the old Source into it. > Go to each person using the old source and in Assigned Sources Ctrl-C > the relevant details from the citation in the lower part of the window. > Then click Cite a Master Source and select the new SourceWriter Master > and Paste the Details. When you have done this for everyone, combine > the old Source with the new. Then everyone will have 2 copies of that > Source, old and new and you need to go back and delete the old one. I > don't recommend this method! > > Also, what you typed before in Source Detail doesn't always match up > with the new fields in Detail Information. > > I have now converted my IGI and BVRI sources to the new style and am > working my way through adjusting the details. It is not taking long - a > couple of evening's work and I am about half done. I feel the amount of > detail and the look of my new Sources makes them very professional and > to me it is time well-spent. > -- > Jenny M Benson > _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001009ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Time to discontinue this thread - in the last few days I have re-entered most of the source details for the one year and county of census that I had merged. Only a few remotely related people left to convert - hence the screen shot which offered such scanty and lame sources for poor old John Bunyan Phipps, who was related to me not at all (father of a spouse of a gr gr aunt), and in whom I have little or no interest! Thanks to those who have offered suggestions. I am happy to continue rewriting sources with the source writer, and will not be merging any new with old, for a while. Enjoying the product, and looking forward to the updates. Janis Walker Gilmore Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
ronald ferguson wrote I'm afraid that I have only loosely been following this thread. I cannot understand why you do not highlight the bit of the line "Event: Census -24 June 1880, Goldsberry Township..." and use Ctrl + C to copy it? (Actually I don't see why you are not getting the full detail below that line either, but maybe that's another story! I always check "Show entire source" so that I can copy the citation date). The problem is this. Once you have combined an old-style Master Source with a SourceWriter Master Source, the only place you are able to see anything that was originally typed into Source Details (the first Detail screen, not Text or Comments) is in the Detail column of the upper portion of the Assigned Sources screen, from where it cannot be copied. It doesn't show in the Footnote/Endnote Citation showing in the lower portion of the screen and does not appear when you click on Edit Detail. There *is* a way to be able to Copy and Paste the old Detail, but I think it is much more awkward and time-consuming than simply Reading/Typing the old to the new. The other way is to create the new SourceWriter Master Source and *do not* combine the old Source into it. Go to each person using the old source and in Assigned Sources Ctrl-C the relevant details from the citation in the lower part of the window. Then click Cite a Master Source and select the new SourceWriter Master and Paste the Details. When you have done this for everyone, combine the old Source with the new. Then everyone will have 2 copies of that Source, old and new and you need to go back and delete the old one. I don't recommend this method! Also, what you typed before in Source Detail doesn't always match up with the new fields in Detail Information. I have now converted my IGI and BVRI sources to the new style and am working my way through adjusting the details. It is not taking long - a couple of evening's work and I am about half done. I feel the amount of detail and the look of my new Sources makes them very professional and to me it is time well-spent. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Janis, I'm afraid that I have only loosely been following this thread. I cannot understand why you do not highlight the bit of the line "Event: Census -24 June 1880, Goldsberry Township..." and use Ctrl + C to copy it? (Actually I don't see why you are not getting the full detail below that line either, but maybe that's another story! I always check "Show entire source" so that I can copy the citation date). Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master > Sources > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:34:33 -0400 > > I have posted a screen shot at http://www.tributepr.com/index.html > > In the highlighted source, you can see a fragment of the source detail at > the right. But if you open the detail (by clicking on Edit Detail), you just > get an empty Source Writer source detail window - my old source details are > nowhere to be seen, and cannot be accessed. > > I'm not real worried about this. I can create new Source Writer sources, and > not worry about the old ones yet. But if there is a solution, I do, of > course, wish to know what it is. > > Janis Walker Gilmore > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:20 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > I guess, like Rich, I don't understand where it is you can see the > detail that you can't access. If I can see detail on the Assigned > Sources screen, and I highlight that Source and click Edit Detail, > then I click on the Text/Comments tab and I can copy the detail there. > When I first click on Edit Detail, I do get the blank Source Writer > screen, but then I click on the Text/Comments tab and my detail is > there. I can edit or copy from that place. > > Dede > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Janis Gilmore > wrote: >> No, Dede, you cannot copy the detail. When you choose Edit Detail, you get >> the new (and empty) Source Writer detail screen. The details of the > citation >> are nowhere to be seen. They are not accessible. >> >> Janis >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede > Holden >> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:19 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged >> Master Sources >> >> Janis, >> I may not completely understand exactly what you're trying to do. >> What happens when you choose "Edit Detail"? Can you then copy your >> detail? >> >> Dede >> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Janis Gilmore >> wrote: >>> It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned >> Sources >>> screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen >>> full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the >>> Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is >> no >>> way to copy it for pasting. >>> >>> Is that more clear? >>> >>> Janis >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD >>> SCHULTHIES >>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged >>> Master Sources >>> >>> Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see >>> the 'lost words'? Go to "Text/Comments", or other >>> choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it >>> all and move it to the new correct place. >>> I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can >>> be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it >>> grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this >>> way, please be more descriptive of where you see the >>> hidden stuff. >>> Rich in LA CA >>> --- Jenny M Benson wrote: >>>
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
I have posted a screen shot at http://www.tributepr.com/index.html In the highlighted source, you can see a fragment of the source detail at the right. But if you open the detail (by clicking on Edit Detail), you just get an empty Source Writer source detail window - my old source details are nowhere to be seen, and cannot be accessed. I'm not real worried about this. I can create new Source Writer sources, and not worry about the old ones yet. But if there is a solution, I do, of course, wish to know what it is. Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources I guess, like Rich, I don't understand where it is you can see the detail that you can't access. If I can see detail on the Assigned Sources screen, and I highlight that Source and click Edit Detail, then I click on the Text/Comments tab and I can copy the detail there. When I first click on Edit Detail, I do get the blank Source Writer screen, but then I click on the Text/Comments tab and my detail is there. I can edit or copy from that place. Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, Dede, you cannot copy the detail. When you choose Edit Detail, you get > the new (and empty) Source Writer detail screen. The details of the citation > are nowhere to be seen. They are not accessible. > > Janis > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:19 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > Janis, > I may not completely understand exactly what you're trying to do. > What happens when you choose "Edit Detail"? Can you then copy your > detail? > > Dede > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned > Sources >> screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen >> full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the >> Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is > no >> way to copy it for pasting. >> >> Is that more clear? >> >> Janis >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD >> SCHULTHIES >> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged >> Master Sources >> >> Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see >> the 'lost words'? Go to "Text/Comments", or other >> choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it >> all and move it to the new correct place. >> I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can >> be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it >> grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this >> way, please be more descriptive of where you see the >> hidden stuff. >> Rich in LA CA >> --- Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Janis Gilmore wrote >>> >Nothing, however, will enable access to the old >>> source detail, in spite >>> >of the fact that it is partially visible. >>> > >>> >(Gee, this is hard to describe!) >>> >>> It is quite normal that you cannot access that old >>> detail because you >>> never have been able to access or copy material from >>> the Assigned >>> Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to >>> highlight a whole row >>> with either mouse or keyboard. >>> >>> You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail >>> visible by altering the >>> column widths before you click on Edit and then you >>> can copy the Detail >>> into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and >>> re-typing it. >>> -- >>> Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Now I understand what you were saying. I also can find no way to get access to the columns Source nor Detail on the Asssigned Sources screen. I was refering to the columns below in the greyed out atea, Output Text/Comments etc. which is not the same. From what you said, I am guessing you cannot get into these columns at present. Try choosing one of the Events. (You probably alreay have.) Hopefully Suport will be following this thread, and jump in with either furthur ideas. Good Luck. Wish I could do more. Rich in LA CA --- Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is only visible (partially) in the Details column > of the Assigned Sources > screen (for any individual). When I make the > Assigned Sources screen > full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim > width, and leave the > Details column very wide, I can almost see all of > the info - but there is no > way to copy it for pasting. > > Is that more clear? > > Janis > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of RICHARD > SCHULTHIES > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated > with newly Merged > Master Sources > > Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you > see > the 'lost words'? Go to "Text/Comments", or other > choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy > it > all and move it to the new correct place. > I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, > can > be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it > grabs the total document. If it is not accessable > this > way, please be more descriptive of where you see the > hidden stuff. > Rich in LA CA > --- Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Janis Gilmore wrote > > >Nothing, however, will enable access to the old > > source detail, in spite > > >of the fact that it is partially visible. > > > > > >(Gee, this is hard to describe!) > > > > It is quite normal that you cannot access that old > > detail because you > > never have been able to access or copy material > from > > the Assigned > > Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to > > highlight a whole row > > with either mouse or keyboard. > > > > You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail > > visible by altering the > > column widths before you click on Edit and then > you > > can copy the Detail > > into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and > > re-typing it. > > -- > > Jenny M Benson > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages: > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Jenny and Janis, I have gone back and reread this thread. I think I understand what you're talking about now. The Text/comment is NOT the problem. I finally figured it out - it's late on a Friday night. I guess this has not been a problem for me, because the Source Detail I've been working with is just a page number, so I've not had a problem re-entering it. Please forgive me for trying to solve this problem that I didn't fully understand. I can see that if you're working with a census or something more complicated than just a page number that it would be a problem to re-enter. I'm thinking that I'll wait for the conversion tool to do my census and other complicated conversions! Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Dede Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess, like Rich, I don't understand where it is you can see the > detail that you can't access. If I can see detail on the Assigned > Sources screen, and I highlight that Source and click Edit Detail, > then I click on the Text/Comments tab and I can copy the detail there. > When I first click on Edit Detail, I do get the blank Source Writer > screen, but then I click on the Text/Comments tab and my detail is > there. I can edit or copy from that place. > > Dede > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> No, Dede, you cannot copy the detail. When you choose Edit Detail, you get >> the new (and empty) Source Writer detail screen. The details of the citation >> are nowhere to be seen. They are not accessible. >> >> Janis >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden >> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:19 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged >> Master Sources >> >> Janis, >> I may not completely understand exactly what you're trying to do. >> What happens when you choose "Edit Detail"? Can you then copy your >> detail? >> >> Dede >> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned >> Sources >>> screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen >>> full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the >>> Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is >> no >>> way to copy it for pasting. >>> >>> Is that more clear? >>> >>> Janis >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD >>> SCHULTHIES >>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged >>> Master Sources >>> >>> Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see >>> the 'lost words'? Go to "Text/Comments", or other >>> choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it >>> all and move it to the new correct place. >>> I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can >>> be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it >>> grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this >>> way, please be more descriptive of where you see the >>> hidden stuff. >>> Rich in LA CA >>> --- Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Janis Gilmore wrote >>>> >Nothing, however, will enable access to the old >>>> source detail, in spite >>>> >of the fact that it is partially visible. >>>> > >>>> >(Gee, this is hard to describe!) >>>> >>>> It is quite normal that you cannot access that old >>>> detail because you >>>> never have been able to access or copy material from >>>> the Assigned >>>> Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to >>>> highlight a whole row >>>> with either mouse or keyboard. >>>> >>>> You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail >>>> visible by altering the >>>> column widths before you click on Edit and then you >>>> can copy the Detail >>>> into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and >>>> re-typing it. >>>> -- >>>> Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
I guess, like Rich, I don't understand where it is you can see the detail that you can't access. If I can see detail on the Assigned Sources screen, and I highlight that Source and click Edit Detail, then I click on the Text/Comments tab and I can copy the detail there. When I first click on Edit Detail, I do get the blank Source Writer screen, but then I click on the Text/Comments tab and my detail is there. I can edit or copy from that place. Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, Dede, you cannot copy the detail. When you choose Edit Detail, you get > the new (and empty) Source Writer detail screen. The details of the citation > are nowhere to be seen. They are not accessible. > > Janis > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:19 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > Janis, > I may not completely understand exactly what you're trying to do. > What happens when you choose "Edit Detail"? Can you then copy your > detail? > > Dede > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned > Sources >> screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen >> full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the >> Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is > no >> way to copy it for pasting. >> >> Is that more clear? >> >> Janis >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD >> SCHULTHIES >> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged >> Master Sources >> >> Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see >> the 'lost words'? Go to "Text/Comments", or other >> choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it >> all and move it to the new correct place. >> I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can >> be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it >> grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this >> way, please be more descriptive of where you see the >> hidden stuff. >> Rich in LA CA >> --- Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Janis Gilmore wrote >>> >Nothing, however, will enable access to the old >>> source detail, in spite >>> >of the fact that it is partially visible. >>> > >>> >(Gee, this is hard to describe!) >>> >>> It is quite normal that you cannot access that old >>> detail because you >>> never have been able to access or copy material from >>> the Assigned >>> Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to >>> highlight a whole row >>> with either mouse or keyboard. >>> >>> You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail >>> visible by altering the >>> column widths before you click on Edit and then you >>> can copy the Detail >>> into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and >>> re-typing it. >>> -- >>> Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, Dede, you cannot copy the detail. When you choose Edit Detail, you get > the new (and empty) Source Writer detail screen. The details of the citation > are nowhere to be seen. They are not accessible. > > Janis > Janis -- I just wanted to let you know that I've been struggling with the exact same situation. The old details "come over" in the merge of the old and new sources, but they are not accessible to be edited. I've been watching this thread with interest, in the hopes that someone would have a solution for this! Cricket Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
move your mouse cursor over the children , right click mouse key and a drop down menu will appear, move cursor down the drop down menu until children's settings is high lit then press left mouse key, now go to Child Status frame and select the childs status and maybe also select the childs status in relation to Father and Mother whilst your in this frame, you can also choose to set the private option, now close, and move to next child you wish to apply setting for. Hope this makes sense, if all else fails see HELP within Legacy for settings and reports perhaps. Reg Brisbane-Australia -- From: "Jenny M Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:59 AM To: Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see the 'lost words'? Go to "Text/Comments", or other choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it all and move it to the new correct place. I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this way, please be more descriptive of where you see the hidden stuff. As I said, in the Detail field on the Assigned Sources Screen. It is not the Text/Comments which need to be copied as they automatically transfer when you merge and old Source into a new (SourceWriter) one. It is the Details themselves which need to be copied and this has to be done by read/type copying, not by copy/paste. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
No, Dede, you cannot copy the detail. When you choose Edit Detail, you get the new (and empty) Source Writer detail screen. The details of the citation are nowhere to be seen. They are not accessible. Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, I may not completely understand exactly what you're trying to do. What happens when you choose "Edit Detail"? Can you then copy your detail? Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned Sources > screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen > full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the > Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is no > way to copy it for pasting. > > Is that more clear? > > Janis > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD > SCHULTHIES > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see > the 'lost words'? Go to "Text/Comments", or other > choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it > all and move it to the new correct place. > I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can > be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it > grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this > way, please be more descriptive of where you see the > hidden stuff. > Rich in LA CA > --- Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Janis Gilmore wrote >> >Nothing, however, will enable access to the old >> source detail, in spite >> >of the fact that it is partially visible. >> > >> >(Gee, this is hard to describe!) >> >> It is quite normal that you cannot access that old >> detail because you >> never have been able to access or copy material from >> the Assigned >> Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to >> highlight a whole row >> with either mouse or keyboard. >> >> You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail >> visible by altering the >> column widths before you click on Edit and then you >> can copy the Detail >> into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and >> re-typing it. >> -- >> Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Janis, I may not completely understand exactly what you're trying to do. What happens when you choose "Edit Detail"? Can you then copy your detail? Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned Sources > screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen > full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the > Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is no > way to copy it for pasting. > > Is that more clear? > > Janis > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD > SCHULTHIES > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see > the 'lost words'? Go to "Text/Comments", or other > choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it > all and move it to the new correct place. > I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can > be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it > grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this > way, please be more descriptive of where you see the > hidden stuff. > Rich in LA CA > --- Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Janis Gilmore wrote >> >Nothing, however, will enable access to the old >> source detail, in spite >> >of the fact that it is partially visible. >> > >> >(Gee, this is hard to describe!) >> >> It is quite normal that you cannot access that old >> detail because you >> never have been able to access or copy material from >> the Assigned >> Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to >> highlight a whole row >> with either mouse or keyboard. >> >> You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail >> visible by altering the >> column widths before you click on Edit and then you >> can copy the Detail >> into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and >> re-typing it. >> -- >> Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see the 'lost words'? Go to "Text/Comments", or other choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it all and move it to the new correct place. I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this way, please be more descriptive of where you see the hidden stuff. As I said, in the Detail field on the Assigned Sources Screen. It is not the Text/Comments which need to be copied as they automatically transfer when you merge and old Source into a new (SourceWriter) one. It is the Details themselves which need to be copied and this has to be done by read/type copying, not by copy/paste. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned Sources screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is no way to copy it for pasting. Is that more clear? Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see the 'lost words'? Go to "Text/Comments", or other choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it all and move it to the new correct place. I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this way, please be more descriptive of where you see the hidden stuff. Rich in LA CA --- Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Janis Gilmore wrote > >Nothing, however, will enable access to the old > source detail, in spite > >of the fact that it is partially visible. > > > >(Gee, this is hard to describe!) > > It is quite normal that you cannot access that old > detail because you > never have been able to access or copy material from > the Assigned > Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to > highlight a whole row > with either mouse or keyboard. > > You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail > visible by altering the > column widths before you click on Edit and then you > can copy the Detail > into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and > re-typing it. > -- > Jenny M Benson > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see the 'lost words'? Go to "Text/Comments", or other choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it all and move it to the new correct place. I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this way, please be more descriptive of where you see the hidden stuff. Rich in LA CA --- Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Janis Gilmore wrote > >Nothing, however, will enable access to the old > source detail, in spite > >of the fact that it is partially visible. > > > >(Gee, this is hard to describe!) > > It is quite normal that you cannot access that old > detail because you > never have been able to access or copy material from > the Assigned > Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to > highlight a whole row > with either mouse or keyboard. > > You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail > visible by altering the > column widths before you click on Edit and then you > can copy the Detail > into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and > re-typing it. > -- > Jenny M Benson > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
I have not been working with the New Source stuff, because I am still cleaning up some old stuff. From what you say, you may not know that in some screens in Legacy, you can Ctrl-C some data, even if you cannot access it directly. This is at best a band-aid approach for any notes that got locked. I have also sent similar problems to Word, which accepted it. The separate issue of having resident ghost data Will need to be fixed in the future. Rich in LA CA --- Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ron, > > Since Gail and I are in the same boat (having tried > to merge an old-style > source with a Source Writer source), I believe what > she meant was that the > remnant of the original source detail is at least > partially visible in the > Assigned Sources screen, but does not show in the > Output box, and is not > accessible in any way. If you click on the Master > Source, you get just that > - the Master Source. If you click on Source Detail, > you get a new empty > Source Writer source detail entry box. Nothing, > however, will enable access > to the old source detail, in spite of the fact that > it is partially visible. > > (Gee, this is hard to describe!) > > Janis > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of ronald > ferguson > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:55 AM > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated > with newly Merged > Master Sources > > > Gail, > > I'm a little puzzled - have you tried to use > Highlight and Ctrl + C to copy? > The mouse won't work. > > > Ron Ferguson > > _ > > New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open > Office > http://www.fergys.co.uk > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _________________ > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:26:33 -0400 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail > associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > > > I think what Janis and I were talking about has to > do with what > > happens to the source detail. When you merge an > old master source > > (which has one or more details attached to it) > into a new sourcewriter > > source, the new source does replace the old one as > expected. The > > source details associated with the old source also > do seem to go along > > and become part of the the newly merged source. > > > > *However*, when you look at the assigned sources > screen, you cannot > > see the old source details in the source output > tab at the bottom of > > the screen, even when you select "show entire > source" (at least I > > can't). You *can* still see part of the source > details in the upper > > part of the assigned sources screen, but unless > your entry is short > > (which mine aren't for my census sources), you > will have to stretch > > the field width to the max to (hopefully) see it > all. Even then, I > > don't believe you can do a copy/paste of this > data, but maybe I am > > wrong. > > > > I have been feverishly working on source > conversion for the last > > couple of days and I think I have a few good tips > to share. When I > > get the kids off to camp, I'll try to write > something up. It is still > > a tedious process, but I don't think it's going to > be as bad as I > > first thought. I have 800 master sources in my > database and tens of > > thousands of source details associated with them. > Whew! > > > > > > Gail Rich Nestor > > Smyrna, Georgia > > www.roots2buds.net > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 4:41 AM, Jenny M Benson > wrote: > >> > >> Dede Holden wrote > >>> > >>> Based on what Geoff and Dave B have said, I > think my source and details > >>> were pretty clear cut - no conflicts so > everything combined like it was > >>> supposed to. > >> > >> If you did indeed do exactly what you described > in your original post, > you > >> merged the *new* Source into the *old* one. This > does retain the old > >> Source Detail. Presumably what you intended to do > is the opposite - old > >> into new - and everyone is finding that Source > Deta
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Right, Jenny. I know you have never been able to copy/paste from that screen. What I am trying to say :-) is that when you OPEN the source detail, there is no source detail to copy/paste; there is only the new source writer screen, with nothing in it. There is no longer any access to the source detail as it was entered in the old system. It's there somewhere, because you can see a bit of it, but there is no way to "get at it," so to speak [For those who have lost the thread on this complicated issue, it pertains to the merging of a source newly created by the Source Writer, with the same source previously created in v. 6. The source details go missing.] Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:04 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis Gilmore wrote >Nothing, however, will enable access to the old source detail, in spite >of the fact that it is partially visible. > >(Gee, this is hard to describe!) It is quite normal that you cannot access that old detail because you never have been able to access or copy material from the Assigned Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to highlight a whole row with either mouse or keyboard. You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail visible by altering the column widths before you click on Edit and then you can copy the Detail into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and re-typing it. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Janis Gilmore wrote Nothing, however, will enable access to the old source detail, in spite of the fact that it is partially visible. (Gee, this is hard to describe!) It is quite normal that you cannot access that old detail because you never have been able to access or copy material from the Assigned Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to highlight a whole row with either mouse or keyboard. You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail visible by altering the column widths before you click on Edit and then you can copy the Detail into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and re-typing it. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Gail, Since our (grown) children and little granddaughter have been with us at the beach this week, I have only converted perhaps 20 sources. I'll look forward to seeing what you have to say about your process. And, by the way, you described the "merge" outcome perfectly. That is exactly my situation. Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:27 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources I think what Janis and I were talking about has to do with what happens to the source detail. When you merge an old master source (which has one or more details attached to it) into a new sourcewriter source, the new source does replace the old one as expected. The source details associated with the old source also do seem to go along and become part of the the newly merged source. *However*, when you look at the assigned sources screen, you cannot see the old source details in the source output tab at the bottom of the screen, even when you select "show entire source" (at least I can't). You *can* still see part of the source details in the upper part of the assigned sources screen, but unless your entry is short (which mine aren't for my census sources), you will have to stretch the field width to the max to (hopefully) see it all. Even then, I don't believe you can do a copy/paste of this data, but maybe I am wrong. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Ron, Since Gail and I are in the same boat (having tried to merge an old-style source with a Source Writer source), I believe what she meant was that the remnant of the original source detail is at least partially visible in the Assigned Sources screen, but does not show in the Output box, and is not accessible in any way. If you click on the Master Source, you get just that - the Master Source. If you click on Source Detail, you get a new empty Source Writer source detail entry box. Nothing, however, will enable access to the old source detail, in spite of the fact that it is partially visible. (Gee, this is hard to describe!) Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:55 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Gail, I'm a little puzzled - have you tried to use Highlight and Ctrl + C to copy? The mouse won't work. Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:26:33 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources > > I think what Janis and I were talking about has to do with what > happens to the source detail. When you merge an old master source > (which has one or more details attached to it) into a new sourcewriter > source, the new source does replace the old one as expected. The > source details associated with the old source also do seem to go along > and become part of the the newly merged source. > > *However*, when you look at the assigned sources screen, you cannot > see the old source details in the source output tab at the bottom of > the screen, even when you select "show entire source" (at least I > can't). You *can* still see part of the source details in the upper > part of the assigned sources screen, but unless your entry is short > (which mine aren't for my census sources), you will have to stretch > the field width to the max to (hopefully) see it all. Even then, I > don't believe you can do a copy/paste of this data, but maybe I am > wrong. > > I have been feverishly working on source conversion for the last > couple of days and I think I have a few good tips to share. When I > get the kids off to camp, I'll try to write something up. It is still > a tedious process, but I don't think it's going to be as bad as I > first thought. I have 800 master sources in my database and tens of > thousands of source details associated with them. Whew! > > > Gail Rich Nestor > Smyrna, Georgia > www.roots2buds.net > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 4:41 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote: >> >> Dede Holden wrote >>> >>> Based on what Geoff and Dave B have said, I think my source and details >>> were pretty clear cut - no conflicts so everything combined like it was >>> supposed to. >> >> If you did indeed do exactly what you described in your original post, you >> merged the *new* Source into the *old* one. This does retain the old >> Source Detail. Presumably what you intended to do is the opposite - old >> into new - and everyone is finding that Source Details are *not* retained in >> the new, merged Source. >> >> Has your newly combined Source got the bullet next to it when you look at >> the Source List? If not, then you definitely merged new into old. >> -- >> Jenny M Benson >> _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001002ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Gail, I'm a little puzzled - have you tried to use Highlight and Ctrl + C to copy? The mouse won't work. Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:26:33 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master > Sources > > I think what Janis and I were talking about has to do with what > happens to the source detail. When you merge an old master source > (which has one or more details attached to it) into a new sourcewriter > source, the new source does replace the old one as expected. The > source details associated with the old source also do seem to go along > and become part of the the newly merged source. > > *However*, when you look at the assigned sources screen, you cannot > see the old source details in the source output tab at the bottom of > the screen, even when you select "show entire source" (at least I > can't). You *can* still see part of the source details in the upper > part of the assigned sources screen, but unless your entry is short > (which mine aren't for my census sources), you will have to stretch > the field width to the max to (hopefully) see it all. Even then, I > don't believe you can do a copy/paste of this data, but maybe I am > wrong. > > I have been feverishly working on source conversion for the last > couple of days and I think I have a few good tips to share. When I > get the kids off to camp, I'll try to write something up. It is still > a tedious process, but I don't think it's going to be as bad as I > first thought. I have 800 master sources in my database and tens of > thousands of source details associated with them. Whew! > > > Gail Rich Nestor > Smyrna, Georgia > www.roots2buds.net > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 4:41 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote: >> >> Dede Holden wrote >>> >>> Based on what Geoff and Dave B have said, I think my source and details >>> were pretty clear cut - no conflicts so everything combined like it was >>> supposed to. >> >> If you did indeed do exactly what you described in your original post, you >> merged the *new* Source into the *old* one. This does retain the old >> Source Detail. Presumably what you intended to do is the opposite - old >> into new - and everyone is finding that Source Details are *not* retained in >> the new, merged Source. >> >> Has your newly combined Source got the bullet next to it when you look at >> the Source List? If not, then you definitely merged new into old. >> -- >> Jenny M Benson >> _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001002ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
I think what Janis and I were talking about has to do with what happens to the source detail. When you merge an old master source (which has one or more details attached to it) into a new sourcewriter source, the new source does replace the old one as expected. The source details associated with the old source also do seem to go along and become part of the the newly merged source. *However*, when you look at the assigned sources screen, you cannot see the old source details in the source output tab at the bottom of the screen, even when you select "show entire source" (at least I can't). You *can* still see part of the source details in the upper part of the assigned sources screen, but unless your entry is short (which mine aren't for my census sources), you will have to stretch the field width to the max to (hopefully) see it all. Even then, I don't believe you can do a copy/paste of this data, but maybe I am wrong. I have been feverishly working on source conversion for the last couple of days and I think I have a few good tips to share. When I get the kids off to camp, I'll try to write something up. It is still a tedious process, but I don't think it's going to be as bad as I first thought. I have 800 master sources in my database and tens of thousands of source details associated with them. Whew! Gail Rich Nestor Smyrna, Georgia www.roots2buds.net On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 4:41 AM, Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dede Holden wrote >> >> Based on what Geoff and Dave B have said, I think my source and details >> were pretty clear cut - no conflicts so everything combined like it was >> supposed to. > > If you did indeed do exactly what you described in your original post, you > merged the *new* Source into the *old* one. This does retain the old > Source Detail. Presumably what you intended to do is the opposite - old > into new - and everyone is finding that Source Details are *not* retained in > the new, merged Source. > > Has your newly combined Source got the bullet next to it when you look at > the Source List? If not, then you definitely merged new into old. > -- > Jenny M Benson > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Jenny, My newly "combined" source does have the bullet beside it. That's one of the first questions I posted after I combined the sources and Geoff responded that the bullet means the source was created with the new Source Writer. I thought that in itself is a great feature so that you will know the difference. I wish I had a time machine so I could go back and see exactly what I did. I really do think I clicked on the new source first. Somehow it made sense to me that if I wanted the Master Source info from one and the detail from the other that I should click on the Master first and then combine the details into that master. I knew I had my backup to rely on, in case I lost all the details. Thanks for exploring this with me. It's really helping me to think through my next steps - do I wait for these quesitions to be answered definitely, or do I keep working on my sources? Right now, I'm just adding new sources with the Source Writer - not doing any more combining. Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dede Holden wrote >> >> Based on what Geoff and Dave B have said, I think my source and details >> were pretty clear cut - no conflicts so everything combined like it was >> supposed to. > > If you did indeed do exactly what you described in your original post, you > merged the *new* Source into the *old* one. This does retain the old > Source Detail. Presumably what you intended to do is the opposite - old > into new - and everyone is finding that Source Details are *not* retained in > the new, merged Source. > > Has your newly combined Source got the bullet next to it when you look at > the Source List? If not, then you definitely merged new into old. > -- > Jenny M Benson > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Dede Holden wrote Based on what Geoff and Dave B have said, I think my source and details were pretty clear cut - no conflicts so everything combined like it was supposed to. If you did indeed do exactly what you described in your original post, you merged the *new* Source into the *old* one. This does retain the old Source Detail. Presumably what you intended to do is the opposite - old into new - and everyone is finding that Source Details are *not* retained in the new, merged Source. Has your newly combined Source got the bullet next to it when you look at the Source List? If not, then you definitely merged new into old. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Janis, Based on what Geoff and Dave B have said, I think my source and details were pretty clear cut - no conflicts so everything combined like it was supposed to. Or maybe it was just beginner's luck! After reading Geoff's comments and Dave B.'s observations, I've gone back and checked everything just to be sure I didn't overlook something that might have gotten lost in translation. I'm a little nervous about trying to combine any more sources, since everyone has not had the same results that I had. I'm like you - I do love the new Sourcewriter. I am able to be more consistent in the way I am entering my data. I finally feel confident that I'm doing things the right way - not just feeling my way through and making it up as I go. Dede On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure, Geoff, that I understand this in light of DeDe's comment, > however. > > She said her source details survived the merge. Is that in conflict with > what Dave B. indicated? > > Janis (loving the new SourceWriter, and still experimenting) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff > Rasmussen > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:54 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > Janis, > > In one of the emails I wrote yesterday I included Dave B.'s (programmer) > comments about this, he basically said that this won't work all the way, > hence the need for the conversion tool. > > Thanks, > > Geoff Rasmussen > Millennia Corporation > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis > Gilmore > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:39 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > I just tried merging it the opposite direction, but it won't merge - I get a > message saying that there are citation details involved. When I forced it, > the citation details were indeed preserved, but the Master Source had not > preserved the Source Citation formatting - so I ended up with an incomplete > source. > > Comments, Geoff? > > Janis Walker Gilmore > > -----Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Keeton > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:49 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > Ladies, > > Did anyone notice that Janis merged the old source into the new source and > Dede merged them the other way, new into old? > > -----Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis > Gilmore > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:07 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > > DeDe (and Gail), > > That's exactly what I did, except with a census source. Gail, is that what > you did when you tried to combine an old source with a new source, and lost > the citation detail? > > Just trying to pinpoint the problem, possibly to a particular template. > > It's encouraging to know that DeDe was successful at this. > > Janis Walker Gilmore > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:00 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > Janis, > > The source was a book compiled by my great uncle. I had BMD info for each > particular person in the Source Details. I also had a paragraph from the > Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments. > > From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the SourceWriter > Template. I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just a little from what > I had written originally. As far as I can remember now, I clicked on the > new source first, chose "Combine Highlighted Source" then clicked on the old > source and then clicked again. This source was attached to several areas, > Name, Birth, Marriage, and some Residence events. I have just checked one > more time and all the details are still there, just as I entered them on > Legacy 6. > > Hope this helps. > > Dede > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
I'm not sure, Geoff, that I understand this in light of DeDe's comment, however. She said her source details survived the merge. Is that in conflict with what Dave B. indicated? Janis (loving the new SourceWriter, and still experimenting) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Rasmussen Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:54 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, In one of the emails I wrote yesterday I included Dave B.'s (programmer) comments about this, he basically said that this won't work all the way, hence the need for the conversion tool. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:39 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources I just tried merging it the opposite direction, but it won't merge - I get a message saying that there are citation details involved. When I forced it, the citation details were indeed preserved, but the Master Source had not preserved the Source Citation formatting - so I ended up with an incomplete source. Comments, Geoff? Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Keeton Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:49 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Ladies, Did anyone notice that Janis merged the old source into the new source and Dede merged them the other way, new into old? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources DeDe (and Gail), That's exactly what I did, except with a census source. Gail, is that what you did when you tried to combine an old source with a new source, and lost the citation detail? Just trying to pinpoint the problem, possibly to a particular template. It's encouraging to know that DeDe was successful at this. Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, The source was a book compiled by my great uncle. I had BMD info for each particular person in the Source Details. I also had a paragraph from the Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments. >From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the SourceWriter Template. I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just a little from what I had written originally. As far as I can remember now, I clicked on the new source first, chose "Combine Highlighted Source" then clicked on the old source and then clicked again. This source was attached to several areas, Name, Birth, Marriage, and some Residence events. I have just checked one more time and all the details are still there, just as I entered them on Legacy 6. Hope this helps. Dede On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dede, > > Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and > in what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on > "combine highlighted source with another in list" - then clicked on > the new SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation > details, but > comments tabs remained intact. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Thanks, Geoff - I probably didn't read it carefully enough. (All of the kids are home!) Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Rasmussen Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:54 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, In one of the emails I wrote yesterday I included Dave B.'s (programmer) comments about this, he basically said that this won't work all the way, hence the need for the conversion tool. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:39 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources I just tried merging it the opposite direction, but it won't merge - I get a message saying that there are citation details involved. When I forced it, the citation details were indeed preserved, but the Master Source had not preserved the Source Citation formatting - so I ended up with an incomplete source. Comments, Geoff? Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Keeton Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:49 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Ladies, Did anyone notice that Janis merged the old source into the new source and Dede merged them the other way, new into old? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources DeDe (and Gail), That's exactly what I did, except with a census source. Gail, is that what you did when you tried to combine an old source with a new source, and lost the citation detail? Just trying to pinpoint the problem, possibly to a particular template. It's encouraging to know that DeDe was successful at this. Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, The source was a book compiled by my great uncle. I had BMD info for each particular person in the Source Details. I also had a paragraph from the Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments. >From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the SourceWriter Template. I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just a little from what I had written originally. As far as I can remember now, I clicked on the new source first, chose "Combine Highlighted Source" then clicked on the old source and then clicked again. This source was attached to several areas, Name, Birth, Marriage, and some Residence events. I have just checked one more time and all the details are still there, just as I entered them on Legacy 6. Hope this helps. Dede On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dede, > > Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and > in what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on > "combine highlighted source with another in list" - then clicked on > the new SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation > details, but > comments tabs remained intact. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Janis, In one of the emails I wrote yesterday I included Dave B.'s (programmer) comments about this, he basically said that this won't work all the way, hence the need for the conversion tool. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:39 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources I just tried merging it the opposite direction, but it won't merge - I get a message saying that there are citation details involved. When I forced it, the citation details were indeed preserved, but the Master Source had not preserved the Source Citation formatting - so I ended up with an incomplete source. Comments, Geoff? Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Keeton Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:49 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Ladies, Did anyone notice that Janis merged the old source into the new source and Dede merged them the other way, new into old? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources DeDe (and Gail), That's exactly what I did, except with a census source. Gail, is that what you did when you tried to combine an old source with a new source, and lost the citation detail? Just trying to pinpoint the problem, possibly to a particular template. It's encouraging to know that DeDe was successful at this. Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, The source was a book compiled by my great uncle. I had BMD info for each particular person in the Source Details. I also had a paragraph from the Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments. >From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the SourceWriter Template. I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just a little from what I had written originally. As far as I can remember now, I clicked on the new source first, chose "Combine Highlighted Source" then clicked on the old source and then clicked again. This source was attached to several areas, Name, Birth, Marriage, and some Residence events. I have just checked one more time and all the details are still there, just as I entered them on Legacy 6. Hope this helps. Dede On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dede, > > Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and > in what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on > "combine highlighted source with another in list" - then clicked on > the new SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation > details, but > comments tabs remained intact. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
I just tried merging it the opposite direction, but it won't merge - I get a message saying that there are citation details involved. When I forced it, the citation details were indeed preserved, but the Master Source had not preserved the Source Citation formatting - so I ended up with an incomplete source. Comments, Geoff? Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Keeton Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:49 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Ladies, Did anyone notice that Janis merged the old source into the new source and Dede merged them the other way, new into old? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources DeDe (and Gail), That's exactly what I did, except with a census source. Gail, is that what you did when you tried to combine an old source with a new source, and lost the citation detail? Just trying to pinpoint the problem, possibly to a particular template. It's encouraging to know that DeDe was successful at this. Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, The source was a book compiled by my great uncle. I had BMD info for each particular person in the Source Details. I also had a paragraph from the Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments. >From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the SourceWriter Template. I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just a little from what I had written originally. As far as I can remember now, I clicked on the new source first, chose "Combine Highlighted Source" then clicked on the old source and then clicked again. This source was attached to several areas, Name, Birth, Marriage, and some Residence events. I have just checked one more time and all the details are still there, just as I entered them on Legacy 6. Hope this helps. Dede On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dede, > > Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and > in what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on > "combine highlighted source with another in list" - then clicked on > the new SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation > details, but > comments tabs remained intact. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Ladies, Did anyone notice that Janis merged the old source into the new source and Dede merged them the other way, new into old? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources DeDe (and Gail), That's exactly what I did, except with a census source. Gail, is that what you did when you tried to combine an old source with a new source, and lost the citation detail? Just trying to pinpoint the problem, possibly to a particular template. It's encouraging to know that DeDe was successful at this. Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, The source was a book compiled by my great uncle. I had BMD info for each particular person in the Source Details. I also had a paragraph from the Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments. >From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the SourceWriter Template. I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just a little from what I had written originally. As far as I can remember now, I clicked on the new source first, chose "Combine Highlighted Source" then clicked on the old source and then clicked again. This source was attached to several areas, Name, Birth, Marriage, and some Residence events. I have just checked one more time and all the details are still there, just as I entered them on Legacy 6. Hope this helps. Dede On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dede, > > Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and > in what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on > "combine highlighted source with another in list" - then clicked on > the new SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation > details, but > comments tabs remained intact. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1508 - Release Date: 6/18/08 9:08 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
DeDe (and Gail), That's exactly what I did, except with a census source. Gail, is that what you did when you tried to combine an old source with a new source, and lost the citation detail? Just trying to pinpoint the problem, possibly to a particular template. It's encouraging to know that DeDe was successful at this. Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, The source was a book compiled by my great uncle. I had BMD info for each particular person in the Source Details. I also had a paragraph from the Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments. >From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the SourceWriter Template. I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just a little from what I had written originally. As far as I can remember now, I clicked on the new source first, chose "Combine Highlighted Source" then clicked on the old source and then clicked again. This source was attached to several areas, Name, Birth, Marriage, and some Residence events. I have just checked one more time and all the details are still there, just as I entered them on Legacy 6. Hope this helps. Dede On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dede, > > Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and in > what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on "combine > highlighted source with another in list" - then clicked on the new > SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation details, but > comments tabs remained intact. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Janis, The source was a book compiled by my great uncle. I had BMD info for each particular person in the Source Details. I also had a paragraph from the Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments. >From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the SourceWriter Template. I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just a little from what I had written originally. As far as I can remember now, I clicked on the new source first, chose "Combine Highlighted Source" then clicked on the old source and then clicked again. This source was attached to several areas, Name, Birth, Marriage, and some Residence events. I have just checked one more time and all the details are still there, just as I entered them on Legacy 6. Hope this helps. Dede On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dede, > > Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and in > what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on "combine > highlighted source with another in list" - then clicked on the new > SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation details, but > comments tabs remained intact. > > Since I did it with a particular census, and the census year and county, and > the household data is in the Event Notes area, all I have lost is the > township, p. no.'s, etc - easily replaced. > > Janis Walker Gilmore > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:52 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged > Master Sources > > Gail and Janis, > > I have done the same thing. I took a source that had lots of > different source details for several generations. I created a new > Master Source using the Source Writer. I combined the two. My > details stayed exactly where they were supposed to! I did not have to > re-enter any of the details. I was thrilled. Of course, I did a > backup before trying this, just in case I lost all those source > details that I spent DAYS entering. > > As soon as they tweak the subsequent citation problem, this is going > to be the best thing to happen to us since the GEDCOM! > > Dede Holden > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Dede, Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and in what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on "combine highlighted source with another in list" - then clicked on the new SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation details, but comments tabs remained intact. Since I did it with a particular census, and the census year and county, and the household data is in the Event Notes area, all I have lost is the township, p. no.'s, etc - easily replaced. Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:52 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Gail and Janis, I have done the same thing. I took a source that had lots of different source details for several generations. I created a new Master Source using the Source Writer. I combined the two. My details stayed exactly where they were supposed to! I did not have to re-enter any of the details. I was thrilled. Of course, I did a backup before trying this, just in case I lost all those source details that I spent DAYS entering. As soon as they tweak the subsequent citation problem, this is going to be the best thing to happen to us since the GEDCOM! Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Don't blame GIGO on the data, we know who wasn't doing validation and sourcing, and who was. Rich in LA CA --- Wynthner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It should be noted that a certain school of thought > considers the GEDCOM to be the worst thing ever to > befall computerizsed genealogy! > In concept it was great but in implementation by the > various companies (including the LDS itself) it was > more than somewhat lacking. > > > - Original Message > From: Dede Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:52:03 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated > with newly Merged Master Sources > > As soon as they tweak the subsequent citation > problem, this is going > to be the best thing to happen to us since the > GEDCOM! > > Dede Holden > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
It should be noted that a certain school of thought considers the GEDCOM to be the worst thing ever to befall computerizsed genealogy! In concept it was great but in implementation by the various companies (including the LDS itself) it was more than somewhat lacking. - Original Message From: Dede Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:52:03 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources As soon as they tweak the subsequent citation problem, this is going to be the best thing to happen to us since the GEDCOM! Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Gail and Janis, I have done the same thing. I took a source that had lots of different source details for several generations. I created a new Master Source using the Source Writer. I combined the two. My details stayed exactly where they were supposed to! I did not have to re-enter any of the details. I was thrilled. Of course, I did a backup before trying this, just in case I lost all those source details that I spent DAYS entering. As soon as they tweak the subsequent citation problem, this is going to be the best thing to happen to us since the GEDCOM! Dede Holden On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gail, > > This is exactly what happened to me when I merged two census sources. > > Any thoughts, Geoff? > > Janis Walker Gilmore > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:48 PM > To: Legacy User Group > Subject: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master > Sources > > I decided to start a new topic here for this question. I created a > new master source for a census. Then I merged an existing master > source used by 5 individuals into the new master source. The master > source looked good and the source detail does seem to have stayed > attached to the new master. > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Gail, I asked Dave about this last night and this was his response: "Well, it makes a body think... I don't think we have even looked at the combine master sources code on the master source list. If someone chooses an old master source (with various detail citations using it) and then combines it with a new SourceWriter master source, the citations would point to the new master source but the old detail fields wouldn't be moved to the new detail fields. I don't even know how we would do that. We wouldn't know where to put the info. Looks like we need a conversion tool... So, yes, right now the new detail fields would be blank... with no way to show the old detail info." I'll respond in my next email on how I'm converting my sources Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:48 PM To: Legacy User Group Subject: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources I decided to start a new topic here for this question. I created a new master source for a census. Then I merged an existing master source used by 5 individuals into the new master source. The master source looked good and the source detail does seem to have stayed attached to the new master. The problem is that, while I can see the beginning of the "old" detail on the assigned sources screen, I cannot access it to update it. When I click "Edit Detail," the new Source Detail template pops up with empty fields. I need a way to get to my old data to show up somewhere so that I can use it to update the new fields. Am I missing something else obvious? Geoff, is this how you are merging sources or are you creating all the new masters with out merging the old ones in and then re-creating and attaching all the detail separately? Gail Rich Nestor Smyrna, Georgia www.roots2buds.net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Gail, This is exactly what happened to me when I merged two census sources. Any thoughts, Geoff? Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:48 PM To: Legacy User Group Subject: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources I decided to start a new topic here for this question. I created a new master source for a census. Then I merged an existing master source used by 5 individuals into the new master source. The master source looked good and the source detail does seem to have stayed attached to the new master. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Gail Nestor wrote I decided to start a new topic here for this question. I created a new master source for a census. Then I merged an existing master source used by 5 individuals into the new master source. The master source looked good and the source detail does seem to have stayed attached to the new master. The problem is that, while I can see the beginning of the "old" detail on the assigned sources screen, I cannot access it to update it. When I click "Edit Detail," the new Source Detail template pops up with empty fields. I need a way to get to my old data to show up somewhere so that I can use it to update the new fields. This is how I do it. Let's say you have an old style Master Source named Old Master and you create a new one with SourceWriter and call it New Master. You merge Old Master into New Master. You go to Joe Bloggs's Assigned Sources screen and select the line which shows New Master. If necessary, resize the columns so you can see all of the text in the Detail column. In the lower half of the screen, select the Output tab and the radio button for Show Entire Source. You can now see the old Source Detail and, in the lower section, any Source Text and Source Detail you had with Old Source. Now click on Cite a Master Source and select New Master again. Keep the new Add the Source Detail window about 1/2 full screen size and by moving it around as necessary you can see all the old text behind it which you want to copy. You can't actually copy and paste, you will have to read and re-type. When you are finished you will have two rows showing New Master - the top one is the old version, which you now delete, and the bottom one is the new, SourceWriter version. That sounds a bit long-winded, but it isn't hard to do and doesn't take long. ... And now that I've typed all that, Geoff will be along saying the Source Conversion tool is ready!! . -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
I decided to start a new topic here for this question. I created a new master source for a census. Then I merged an existing master source used by 5 individuals into the new master source. The master source looked good and the source detail does seem to have stayed attached to the new master. The problem is that, while I can see the beginning of the "old" detail on the assigned sources screen, I cannot access it to update it. When I click "Edit Detail," the new Source Detail template pops up with empty fields. I need a way to get to my old data to show up somewhere so that I can use it to update the new fields. Am I missing something else obvious? Geoff, is this how you are merging sources or are you creating all the new masters with out merging the old ones in and then re-creating and attaching all the detail separately? Gail Rich Nestor Smyrna, Georgia www.roots2buds.net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
