Re: [LegacyUG] New Mailing List Software and Servers

[JLB]

There's an easy cure for this in the meantime. Send one to your JUNK 
folder and the rest should follow suit.


JL

On 2/22/2016 7:20 PM, Dick D Staley wrote:

I have received tons of the e-mails.. please stop it

On 2/22/2016 6:27 PM, Michele/Support wrote:
I only got ONE email per list I am subscribed to.  The email stated 
exactly

what it was.  I am not sure why some people are saying they received
"hundreds" of emails.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Panic!

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It sounds like your computer is in big trouble in some mysterious way.
You could try TuneUp Utilities. http://www.tune-up.com/

A free trial is 30 days I think so you don't have to buy it.

The initial setup asks a lot of questions. It's not hard if you take it
one step at a time but it takes awhile. It will go through your
computer in depth and fix most problems. What I mean by 'most' is that
sometimes reinstalling your operating system is the last but only resort.

Instead of picking and guessing your way through one possibility at a
time TuneUp is like having a mechanic inside your computer.

If you want on-screen support I will work at an hourly rate. You can
contact me through email.
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On 4/10/2013 2:08 PM, BK Ford wrote:

 I am now desperate. I spent some time with the tech support people at
 Milennia looking around on my computer. He could not solve the
 problem. He did try 7.5, and it returned the same error. He said
 there must be some sort of conflict on my computer, but he did not
 have a clue what it might be. He was very apologetic. He set my
 BitDefender antivirus software to Game Mode and thought that might do
 it, but no. The program actually opens, but the second I try to open
 a file, like the Sample file (and he also created a test file, but
 same thing), it returns the error. I used the program on this same
 Windows 7 computer not very long ago. The only programs I have
 installed since that time, according to my Control Panel, are Turbo
 Tax and Java and something called Microsoft Silverlight (I didn't
 actually install that--don't know what it is or where it came from).
 I uninstalled Java. No change.

 He suggested that as long as I use this computer, I probably can't
 use Legacy. That doesn't make sense to me, as I used it on this very
 computer not long ago.

 He said the incompatibility issue is not that uncommon, and yet there
 is no list of known incompatible software.

 I feel totally stranded. Is there any way I can send my data file and
 have someone convert it to a gedcom so that I can open it in another
 family tree software program (like FTM or something)? Right now, I
 don't even think I can create a gedcom, can I? The tech support guy
 said he didn't think I could.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Print Out of Customize parameters

[JLB]

I use Syncback for all my backups to external hard-drives and simply add
the entire Legacy folder to it. Does Legacy have to baby us through
everything?
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On 4/6/2013 12:16 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
 Because this request seems to come up every few months in one form or
 another, it would seem to me a simple resolution of the problem to
 have Legacy provide for an automatic backup of all .USR files. As it
 exists right now, there are options to backup not only the family
 data file but also Research Guidance files, IGI Search Results, Focus
 Group settings, and FamilySearch link files. Come on now, why won't
 Legacy back up its own settings? Seems like a major oversight.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Print Out of Customize parameters

[JLB]

Of course not. It doesn't matter where you back up to. But if you back
up the whole Legacy folder /somewhere/ you'll have all your USR files to
copy back if you need them. A list of what USR file contains what could
be useful.

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On 4/6/2013 3:50 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
 Is an external hard drive required hardware in order to run Legacy?

 It's not being babied, but rather just simplistic and economical.

 Brian in California



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Re: [LegacyUG] Print Out of Customize parameters

[JLB]

It's not really necessary to print out the options you've chosen. You
can save and reload them using the Save and Load buttons under Report
Settings, lower right hand corner.
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On 4/5/2013 2:46 PM, Mike Fry wrote:
 On 2013/04/05 23:21, John Gregson wrote:

 Is there any way to generate such a document?

 So far as I know, only by using the Print-Screen key and perhaps software to
 save captured screen images to disk.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Print Out of Customize parameters

[JLB]

Ok, that was dumb. You weren't asking about reports but Customize
options. Sorry.
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On 4/5/2013 2:59 PM, JLB wrote:
 It's not really necessary to print out the options you've chosen. You
 can save and reload them using the Save and Load buttons under Report
 Settings, lower right hand corner.
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 On 4/5/2013 2:46 PM, Mike Fry wrote:
 On 2013/04/05 23:21, John Gregson wrote:

 Is there any way to generate such a document?

 So far as I know, only by using the Print-Screen key and perhaps
 software to
 save captured screen images to disk.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting a Family Group Record

[JLB]

Or you could use something free like PDF Creator. There's quite a few to
choose from which you'll see if you Google it.
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On 4/4/2013 11:05 AM, Lee Bruch wrote:
 I can print anything that my printer can print as a pdf. All I do is go to 
 print and there select the printer ... pdf is one of the choices.  I have 
 acrobat professional, that might be what allows me to do this.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Installing two copies of Legacy on one machine?

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He's not going to be able to install two copies of Legacy.

Go to the Data folder and make shortcuts to the desktop of the two
family files.
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On 4/4/2013 1:44 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
 A friend is switching to Legacy after using Brother's Keeper for years.

 He asked me a question yesterday, which I am pretty sure there is an
 answer for - but I couldn't tell him straight off, and I can't find what
 I was looking for in my mail archive this morning. Thought it best to
 come here and get up-to-date help from those who know about these
 things.  :-)

 He wants two icons on his computer's desktop, one for him and his family
 file, and one for his wife's and her family file.  So that they don't
 accidentally open each other's files and work on them before realising
 their mistake.  They don't want separate Windows log-ins, that's more
 effort than they want to endure.

 I did explain why I have all of my research in one file, but they don't
 want to do that.  They've worked separately for years and want to
 continue that way.

 My thoughts went along the lines of having two copies of Legacy
 installed, so that one can be set to open his file on startup, and the
 other opening hers.

 What do you think?  Do you have an alternative scenario that might suit
 them?  How do you go about installing two copies of Legacy? I think it
 involves changing the installing file's name, but my memory is a bit
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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA Names

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Go to the Options for that report and un-tick the box under Include that
says Alternate given and surnames.
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On 4/4/2013 1:35 PM, John Gregson wrote:
 In Legacy deluxe.

 When I print the Family Group Record, the AKA Name is always there.
 I did experiment with this, but I have now removed the only  AKA name.,
 but it still
 prints as a blank space, also AKA Fields with other people.
 How do I remove the AKA field from my reports.
 Have I missed something?

 John.




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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA Names

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Ok then, try hitting the Reset button and starting from scratch.
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On 4/4/2013 2:21 PM, John Gregson wrote:
 That option is already un - ticked.

 John.



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[LegacyUG] spacing

[JLB]

Including Event Address in a Descendant Report gives me the following
type of result:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n0ljl3pquah662i/2013-03-31_133213.jpg

Not even so much as a space. I would prefer if it would sit at the top
of the paragraph next to or beneath the city/state/country address and
before the Notes.

Any chance?

I can see I could get it to sit one line below the Notes if I put a
carriage return there but ...
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Re: [LegacyUG] spacing

[JLB]

What I did was hit the reset button and I just got the address in
parentheses. Too bad it doesn't say Address: anymore. Why it did before
I don't know.

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On 3/31/2013 3:10 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
 The Event Address included by Legacy is the portion in the Parentheses
 () Check how you have entered the data for the Event to look at how the
 entry of Mary A Murphy was entered for the Address:  in your sample.

 Brian
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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?

[JLB]

Well, that should be changed (and it's easy on the backup screen) or
you're in danger of losing them all if your computer crashes. I send my
backup files to a folder of their own inside My Documents. All of My
Documents is backed up to an external hard-drive daily.
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On 3/26/2013 2:00 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 The Legacy backup. zip file when created is always stored in the Legacy Data 
 folder.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?

[JLB]

Ron, I was just punctuating the point for anyone who hasn't looked at
that closely. Some people might not have noticed that the default
setting could get them in trouble. It wasn't directed at you personally.
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On 3/26/2013 10:04 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 That is the Legacy Default which I though was the question I was answering.
 If, however, you are asking where I have my back-ups, then in addition to
 the default I have copies on my brother-in-law's PC, the cloud and an
 external HD.

 Ron Ferguson,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?

[JLB]

I used to back up to disc until it took about 50 of them to do
everything. And then repeating that every few months got ridiculous in
price. And time. Then I did it only to send copies to my family every
couple of years of a relatively small amount of the files in case they
cared about having an update. Nowadays I can zip up a folder and put it
in Dropbox.

An external hard-drive is preferable in every way I can imagine, not the
least of which is that I can back up my files immediately.

I don't understand the point of a safety deposit box, as someone
suggested. Do you go get the drive out, bring it home, update it and go
put it back in the box? If I had that kind of routine on my schedule I'd
probably only get it done once a year.

I just toss my most up-to-date backup drive in my pocket when I leave
the house. Unless the earth swallows my house (plus computer) AND I get
run over by a bus on the same day, it works.

I use the cloud for transferring files to others but I don't depend on
it for backups. It might be safe but do you really want to depend on
someone else to keep your files?
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On 3/26/2013 4:21 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Brian,

 No, I do not back up to DVDs etc.. I did 10 - 12 years ago but stopped as the 
 price HD memory fell, I can't remember exactly when that was, but maybe 8 
 years ago.

 I fail to see why, in the circumstances you describe, a DVD would be 
 preferable to an external a HD, neither are dependant on the internet, and I 
 do not have great confidence in a DVD which has been written to many times. 
 In my case, if the Internet does implode, and the world enters into the 
 consequencial total disorder, I will be happy in the knowledge that the copy 
 on my external HD and on my brother-in-law's PC will be available.
 ---
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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?

[JLB]

If there's no electricity we'll be too busy surviving to enjoy our
present indulgence in what dead people did. But then of course there's
FamilySearch with their indestructible mountain of microfilm so when we
crawl out of the dirt we can start over.

O, boy, I can see this thread going downhill from here ... let 'er rip.
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On 3/26/2013 4:27 PM, Ron Walter wrote:
 Ron
 If the internet isn't available what makes you think that there will be 
 electricity?  I suggest backing up to goatskins as the only safe alternative.
 Ron



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Re: [LegacyUG] Backups (was Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?)

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I also send my genealogy files by Dropbox on a regular basis to a cousin
who lives 5,000 miles from where I am just to increase their odds of
survival.

I suppose it's possible that something so catastrophic and instantaneous
could happen to my entire computer desk and accompanying shelves that I
wouldn't have the opportunity to grab a backup drive. I don't want to
stretch my creative imagination that far but now that I think of it;
perhaps something like the floor caving in. But if the floor goes so do
I. So I won't care about the 'restore' options.

I generally consider myself out of my house with a backup drive in my
pocket as a 'second place'.

Other second places could be scattering backup drives around my house so
they're not all in the same room. Just in case a flood makes it up to
the 3rd floor.

OK, seriously -- bad things happen and a lot of times they're not
scheduled. So, it's worthwhile thinking about the possibilities and how
to cover as many potential scenarios as possible. Safety deposit box
won't work for people with mobility issues.
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On 3/26/2013 5:06 PM, Paul Gray wrote:
 Hi JL Beeken,

 I use the safety deposit box. I actually have 2 USB external drives,
 so I make a backup to one, take it to the bank and put it in the box,
 at the same returning home with the older drive. I'm lucky, my bank
 is (literally) a five minute walk, so it's no big deal. I do it
 faithfully once a month. I also use cloud storage, so I have two
 offsite backups. Many of these services are free. I would never use
 them as my only backup, but they are a valuable option.

 Having backups in a second place is critical. One doesn't like to
 tempt fate, but suffering some type of flood or fire (maybe even in
 just one room of a home) could potentially result in total data
 loss.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?

[JLB]

Since this conversation has turned to disaster now, how can paper
storage be considered 'safe'? Paper burns. Paper rots. Paper turns to
mush if you add enough water. Ink fades. Perhaps as genealogists we're
overly concerned with forever.
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On 3/26/2013 5:50 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
 Well, it's been an interesting discussion so far. It started out as to how to 
 back up the Legacy family file and then the questions arose as to where to 
 back up the files.

 Seems clear to me that there should be at least 2 different geographic 
 locations where the backups are held: one can be your own house and the 
 second can be your relative's house which could be across town or across the 
 country. Doesn't matter as long as it is not in the same location otherwise 
 if your house burns down, all backups literally go up in flames. I think 
 these generally suffice for what I call short-term storage, defining 
 short-term to mean your own life span.

 When it comes to long-term storage, meaning something that your grandchildren 
 will be able to access,  the format of the media upon which the data is held 
 seems to be of most importance. Note that even the LDS keeps their master 
 storage as a physical hardcopy of microfilm. The do not rely solely on 
 magnetically read media such as hard drives or DVDs. Maybe they're scared of 
 the effects of EMP from a nuclear detonation or maybe they just know all 
 these short term methods degrade from bit rot, mostly likely effects of 
 gamma rays and who knows what else.

 So, are we all storing our data just for short-term? Not discounting the 
 chance of  any type of global disaster in the next 100 years, doesn't it seem 
 logical that the only SURE method of storage is actually a hardcopy of some 
 type. I would assume this to be most likely a printed set of reports or even 
 a bound manuscript or booklet. Hey, could even mean goatskins after all.

 Brian in California



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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?

[JLB]

That option must be turned off on my computer because I just tried
closing without backing up and nothing happened. Hitting the Backup
button every time is an automatic reflex so that works for me.
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On 3/25/2013 1:20 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 And, don't forget that when closing one is always asked if a backup is 
 required. I confess that I cannot see how this can be missed!
 ---
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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?

[JLB]

I'm pretty sure I turned it off so I wouldn't be bugged by it. Since I
back up every time I work in there a reminder would be redundant.
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On 3/25/2013 9:53 AM, Sherry/Support wrote:
 Go to Options  Customize Other  Turn On or Off Optional Reminder
 Messages to set the reminder. It's on the Prompts/Reminders tab.

 The reminder will only pop up if you've done any edits to the Family
 File. It won't come up if you've only viewed the file.


 Sincerely,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?

[JLB]

Are you aware of where the backup files are being saved? I mean, just so
you know to also backup again from there to an external source.
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On 3/25/2013 9:03 PM, elizabeth wrote:
 I do always get the prompt to backup whenever I close Legacy and I
 always do the backup.

 But I did not associate that with what JLB said (...the '''zip''' file
 that's created when
 you click the '''BACKUP button) since I have never paid any attention
 to what format the file was being save as when I close
 Legacy.jpg, zip, txt, or whatever. I've never bothered to look
 for a '''Backup button''' anywhere else either, since I always get that
 backup prompt window and always use it.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?

[JLB]

One just has to wonder how these things happen in this day and age of
free and virtually free backup options.

Do you have any Legacy BACKUPS? I mean the zip file that's created when
you click the BACKUP button.

If so, install Legacy on your new computer. Then click the RESTORE
option in Legacy and browse to your most recently dated zip file (on a
flash-drive or wherever you've got it by now.) Follow your nose through
the rest of it.

There's another dealie-do with the USR files but I'll save that for now.

I'm wondering what you mean by your 'download folder'. Without knowing
that I'm not sure what else is on your mind. Was EVERYTHING on one
computer? Did you lose EVERYTHING? If not, what DO you have to work with
Legacy-wise?
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On 3/24/2013 8:27 PM, elizabeth wrote:
 Hi,

 I couldn't find an answer I could understand in the archives so I am
 hoping someone can help me here.

 My computer crashed and I need to move legacy to my new computer. How do
 I do it? Can I just copy/paste the 'Legacy folder' and the 'Legacy.exe
 file in my download folder' to my flash drive and then copy/paste them
 to my new computer?

 I use the free version of Legacy.

 Thanks!

 Elizabeth




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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?

[JLB]

Yes, you should start with installing the latest version of Legacy.
Copying and pasting your backup Legacy folder over the top of the
installation is not the best idea but it will do in a pinch. That way
you'll preserve your user settings.

After you have it all on your new computer, you can install Legacy again
over the top of everything to make sure you have all the files that
should be there. I think that's how I'd do it anyway if I was where you are.

For the future, there's a backup button that can be dragged onto your
toolbar in Legacy. Right click on the toolbar and it will bring up a
menu of icons. Find the backup button and drag it up to the top and
click OK.

Or you can back up using the File menu. It says right there - Backup
Family File. This will create a zip file. Make a folder for them
wherever you want and you can customize the Location for them on the
Customize Backup screen.

In the future you can use Restore to bring back a zip file.
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On 3/24/2013 9:02 PM, elizabeth wrote:
 Well, in this day and age there are still some who don't know
 everything..:-)

 I didn't even know Legacy had a 'backup' button. I've never seen it so
 it must be hidden somewhere.

 I use a flash drive for backup for my computer information. I always
 just copy/paste from my hard drive to the flash drive whenever I need to
 update the things I have on my hard drive.As far as I know I have never
 'lost' anything by doing that. However I am not sure about moving Legacy
 to another computer which is why I am asking.

 I do have the main Legacy folder backed up on the flash drive
 (C:/Legacy). I also copy/pasted the original legacy 'exe' file from my
 'Downloads' folder (C:/Downloads). This was the original .exe file I
 used to install Legacy on my computer when I first began using the
 program. I have updated the program now and then).

 Can I just download the latest Legacy version of the free program from
 the Legacy web site and then copy/paste the Legacy folder from my flash
 drive into the C:/ of my new computer? Or won't that work?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.

[JLB]

Ron, the issues with linking files are the problems that come up with
either renaming them or moving them to other folder locations.

As I've seen expressed here, some people file in a multitude of folders
and sub-folders. Moving hundreds of file-paths would not be easy.
Renaming thousands of files even worse.

The original OP was looking for a system to 'get started'. Someone just
starting out may not know enough to settle on their own 'perfect system'
from the get-go so linking files can complicate their process of discovery.

One shortcut in this regard: It's not necessary to browse to each file.
You can drag and drop files into the galleries. It doesn't always work
on the first try or second or third, but with persistence ...
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On 3/18/2013 4:48 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 I have kept out of this discussion as it does not seem appropriate to
 suggest my system, or to be accurate lack of. Unfortunately I now have too
 many images to contemplate change.

 However, unless I have missed something, I cannot understand why one would
 not attach images to Legacy, I do and over many years have had very few
 problems. During this time I have moved my data onto 3 (I think) new
 computers, but other than that have not really had to change many links.

 Whilst I, and JLB, know how to enter images into webpages or reports what
 happens if someone does not? In any event, the process of so doing is an
 absolute time consuming bore. I do it for some Event or Source Images but
 for nothing else.

 BTW for manipulating photos, the free GIMP will do most jobs, Photoshop is
 not necessary for most people.

 Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.

[JLB]

Photoshop Elements, IMO, is very good for editing photos.

The Organizer (the other half) is very poor. In particular in regards to
tagging. You can add keywords in the Organizer. And captions, I think.
Everything else (locations, copyright, source, object name and all the
other IPTC fields) can only be done one photo at a time through the File
Info window accessible only through the Editor. It's quite a nonsensical
arrangement. The mapping feature in the Organizer is also pathetic.
There's no batch-mode either.

I could go on for hours about how much I dislike it. I did use it many
years ago and tried a couple of trials since then hoping it had been
improved. It seemed to be the best there was until I found something
better. And I was so relieved to find something better.

Photo Mechanic, as well as GeoSetter and XnView can be used for adding
metadata as well as other functions that differ from one to the other;
the first two also handle GPS. GeoSetter is particularly good at that.

None of them is an 'organizer' per se. In other words, you're working on
the images wherever they already exist on your computer. Which is good
because if you move them around or rename them you can still find them.
(Another yuck point about APSE Organizer; it creates a linked catalog.)

XnView and GeoSetter are both free. Photo Mechanic is a free trial. I
would suggest trying all of them and having a look. Once you establish a
work flow with them or one or two of them you'll find what you prefer.
Try Photo Mechanic when you've got time to enjoy the trial. The others
don't matter since you can have them forever. XnView also has a portable
version if you're into PortableApps. http://portableapps.com/

About not linking files to Legacy - I did link them at one time. From
where I started to where I am now I probably moved or renamed files
about 20 times. By the time I got to 15,000 source citations with images
attached, relinking them to Legacy had gotten really tedious. One day I
knocked myself up the side of the head about my stupidity in that
regard. The filing system I use now makes it really easy to access files
anywhere and anytime in a variety of ways, generally quicker than I can
click through to them inside Legacy. Linking files to Legacy seems to me
a make-work project with zero benefits.

I link individual pictures because I like to print them out in reports.
But only one per person. If I really want to get serious with photos I
can easily search them and create things outside Legacy like collage or
focused PDFs. There are so many ways of being creative with images and I
really don't see Legacy being the place for it.

Of course, all data is extracted from each record and entered into
Legacy and sourced.
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On 3/17/2013 4:55 PM, Sentz wrote:
 JLB

 Just getting back to you after reviewing your powerpoint presentation on
 MRINs...interesting how your thought process evolved.  I may incorporate
 some of your ideas as I formulate my new computer filing strategy.

 I have been considering purchasing photoshop Elements software.  Would
 you know the advantages of using photo mechanic software instead
 Elements?

 Understanding LTools, Geosetter and XnView and what they do is on my
 list.  At this point, I don't have that many individual records and
 haven't had difficulty finding multimedia files.

 Also, if I am understanding correctly, what is your thinking about not
 linking any images to Legacy, or just 1 photo for an individual.  It's
 interesting to hear that some others only link some images, but not
 everything, which makes sense.  Do you link any census images at all?
 Or do you just enter the census data?

 Cathy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.

[JLB]

People often ask on this list about photo organization and linking files
to Legacy.

Since my file organization is heavily dependent on tagging I consider
this subject relevant. Others' mileage may vary.

Yes, it's possible to keyword tag in bulk with APSE Organizer. However,
keywords are only one of many tagging options. Even Adobe knows that.
But they make all those other fields only accessible through the Editor
one photo at a time. (Unless they've FINALLY changed that in versions 10
or 11. The last one I looked at was version 9.) I also use the following
fields quite regularly: caption writer, object name, city, location,
state, country, photographer, credit, source, copyright, copyright URL
and Contact Address and GPS.

I stand by my assessment. I think APSE Organizer a terrible option for
tagging genealogy files.

I know Geoff Rasmussen has recommended it in his webinars and even wrote
a book about it. But I don't consider Geoff my go-to person for photo
information. I simply think he's wrong in some respects. And this is one
of them.
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On 3/17/2013 6:54 PM, Paul Gray wrote:
 JLB,

 Although we all have our own opinions of various software programs, I
 must disagree with your assessment of Photoshop, at least version 10
 and 11, the latest ones.

 The main thrust of this thread was around file structures for ease of
 finding various files from the masses of files we tend to accumulate.
 Tagging is another way of accomplishing the same thing.

 Photoshop allows tagging, including batch tagging, of photos. It also
 has great facial recognition and facial tagging, which does a pretty
 good job (yes, there is some manual work required)  of tagging the
 people in photos. Then, one can find photos by any combination of
 keyword tags, and/or 'people tags'. In my view, it's an excellent
 organizer.

 Before rejecting it, I urge anyone considering Photoshop to download
 the free trial and see for yourself. Also, be patient, it is fairly
 complex to learn, the trick is to use just those small parts that you
 need for organization at the beginning and gradually get into more
 complex functions.

 I hope I'm not going to be ruled off topic, as Photoshop has been
 discussed in Webinars and Geoff's digital imaging book (I think), but
 it isn't really a Legacy add on. So, this thread may be stopped
 soon.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.

[JLB]

Photos 'should' be scanned as TIFFs. Picasa does not tag TIFFs. It
'acts' like it does but if you open any self-respecting photo software
you will find that the tags do not carry through.

Picasa (i.e. Google) is only interested in collecting as much personal
information as they can get their hands on, therefore they're only
interested in the JPGs that come off digital cameras nowadays. They're
not interested in dead people, i.e. TIFFs.

If you have no money, XnView and GeoSetter will cover all tagging, GPS
and simple editing functions.

If you want to restore photos you may have to spring for Adobe Elements
anyway. The editor is actually worth the price, about $100.
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On 3/17/2013 7:29 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
 For those of use who dont have the funds for programs like Photoshop,

 OR really dont want to have to learn a fairly complex program,

 I suggest two alternatives.

 For tagging and straightening and adding text to images, Picasa  works
 very well for these tasks.

 If you have any version of Microsoft office, then you can use the ultra
 simple Microsoft Office Picture manager for cropping
 (Right click any image and open withOffice Picture Manager)
 And it is fantastic for resizing as it has two 'standard settings which
 work very well to automatically downsize AND compress the images.
 I use the standard 'document' re-size for larger family photos and
 document records, census, etc.
 Then the standard 'web' re-size is great for indiv photos and tombstone
 images.

 And I also recently started using the free Irfanview,
 I have lots of documents that are two or three images, where Irfanview
 has a 'create panorama' photo which is excellent for these multiple
 images that combines them into one single image.
 Either vertically or horizontally.
 (ImageCreate Panorama Image)

 Just my own way of doing things.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.

[JLB]

Ron, what does tagging for files that are NOT images?

The only one I know of is a PDF editor for PDF metadata but that's a
hard one to search as I recall.

A lot of records are downloaded in image format so that covers most of
them for me. I can search for PDF's or text by MRIN or specific content
by something like Copernic Desktop Search.

Something that has not been mentioned yet in this discussion is that if
you're linking your files to Legacy, it's important to DECIDE where
you're going to put your files and how you're going to name them and
stick to your plan. Changing file-paths can be difficult. One folder to
another if the file-names are the same is easy. Moving dozens or
hundreds of sub-folders, or re-linking renamed files is not.

I find it easier to not link files at all except for one folder of
'portraits' used in reports or charting. Instead of clicking four times
to get to a view of a single file in Legacy, I can do a simple search in
Windows to get that one file or get a whole folder or folder tree view
and wider perspective.

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On 3/15/2013 10:02 PM, Ron Walter wrote:
 I think there are two sides to the 'Harris' example;  bringing up everything 
 that has 'Harris' in it could be exactly what is needed.

 While I don't use it, Windows Explorer provides tagging, but not for every 
 file type.

 It should be pointed out the GeoSetter only provides tagging for image files.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.

[JLB]

Alas! If only I used Microsoft Word. If I look hard I might be able to
find five .doc files on my entire computer.

What you're suggesting does not work for RTF, PDF, TXT, ODS, HTML, EML,
ZIP, MHT ...

Almost of all of my genealogy has been downloaded or scanned as image
files and GeoSetter works fine, as does Photo Mechanic and XnView as I
mentioned previously. GIF, PNG and BMP cannot be tagged with anything.
JPG and TIFF, of course, can be.

Opening my genealogy folders of almost 17,000 files show me over 90%
image files. The rest are mostly RTF, PDF, TXT, HTML or EML, none of
which can be tagged with Windows.

So I guess that leaves Windows tagging DOCX besides it's usual, wholly
inadequate, tagging of JPGs and TIFFs.
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On 3/16/2013 11:42 AM, Ron Walter wrote:
 JL

 In windows explorer, highlight a file, and at the bottom of the explorer 
 panel there are a number of fields displayed and tags is among them. You can 
 enter, delete, etc. tags in that field.

 It doesn't work for all file types (pdf is one that it doesn't work for) but 
 does work for jpgs and office doc types.

 Ron



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Re: [LegacyUG] Need help with PATH

[JLB]

Look up LTools on the Internet.
http://zippersoftware.com/wp/ltools/what-is-ltools/
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On 3/16/2013 1:55 PM, Emily Moore wrote:
 Where can one get  Ltools?

 Emily

 On Mar 9, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Ron Taylor wrote:

 Jay,
 Ltools can make the change to all your multimedia paths.  Run Repair 
 Multimedia Paths and set Find Substring in Path to c:\ then set and 
 Replace with to C:\

 It can also fix paths that have actually changed because of rearranging 
 where the files are kept.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center

[JLB]

Yes. Don't use Legacy.

Of course, if you don't you'll have to relink the files. Second
suggestion: Don't link files to Legacy.
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On 3/16/2013 1:52 PM, Emily Moore wrote:
 I have seen recommendations that one use Picture Center to rename
 files.  However, in Picture Center, I cannot seem to get enough
 detail, even with the zoom, to tell what family is in a census record
 jpg file in the picture list.  Is there a good work around?

 Thanks,

 Emily




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Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.

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I do something that started out as MRIN filing and morphed into nested
family folders.

All photos and documents go into one folder for each marriage. The files
are named chronologically so the thumbnails tell a story. All the other
information; keywords, captions, source, copyright, locations, GPS,
etc., is embedded in the files. This makes it easy for searching as well
as capable of producing PDF's and slideshows using some or all of the
embedded info.

All the folders are nested by family starting with the direct line
folders so, theoretically, between the nesting and embedded information
the MRIN's could be left out.

There's a PowerPoint slideshow about it here:
http://jlog.jgen.ws/mrin-filing-system-ppsx/
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On 3/15/2013 3:51 PM, Sentz wrote:
 I am in the process of deciding how to best reorganize things, since I
 don't have that many individual records yet and need to do some major
 clean up with my source citations. Prior to getting Legacy, I set up
 2 Genealogy folders with sub folders by Surname and then Surname with
 the head of household under both My Documents and My Photos in Windows
 7.  In my mind at the time I was thinking that Pictures/Photos should be
 separate from images of documents, census records, family
 documents, death records, birth records, etc.  Using the Surname
 organization seems to work along with the filing cabinet in my head so
 that I could find things easily.  How do some of you organize
 your photos and scanned docs?  Do you put them in the same Picture
 folders?  Seems like it would be more efficient, eventhough they may be
 a different type of media.
 Geoff Rasmusen uses the Geographic filing system. I see the logic behind
 doing this, but will likely stick with the Surname filing for now.
 Cathy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.

[JLB]

I've never understood surname filing so this might be a good time to
ask. I have about 5000 surnames in my database so would I create a
folder and sub-folders for every single surname? Is it that
straightforward or are there problems that come up with duplicate
records or before/after people are married?
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On 3/15/2013 4:08 PM, Mary Moyer wrote:
 I have mine organized by surname with subfolders, and it works well for me.

 For example:
 Smith Family
 --Smith cemetery records
 --Smith census records
 --Smith correspondence
 --Smith genealogy pics
 --Smith land records
 --Smith military records
 --Smith research
 --Smith tombstone pics
 --Smith vital records
 --Smith wills  probate

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Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.

[JLB]

That's what's happened to me with surname filing - interested in how it
works (since I hear so many people refer to it) but too deep into my own
method to switch gears. Maybe for the first thousand people but after
awhile it's too much to move.

What you do sounds somewhat similar to mine. The folders are nested from
the direct lines down so anyone who doesn't want to use the MRIN's can
still find their way around. The MRIN's just make for quick reference to
or from Legacy.
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On 3/15/2013 4:40 PM, Mary Moyer wrote:
 JLB

 I don't make a surname folder for every surname (way too many) - I make
 a folder for every direct ancestor surname and put related families in
 that folder. Before her marriage, the woman's information goes in her
 parent's folder, and after her marriage I put the info in her husband's
 surname folder. If she marries again, I keep her info in my direct
 ancestor's folder. I name all my files in the folders very specifically
 with all the relevant information so that the info is easy for me to
 find. I will occasionally keep duplicate info in more than one folder
 but not very often.

 As far as using the locality method, I'd be jumping all over the place,
 since most of my families moved multiple times, and it would drive me
 crazy to have to look in 15 different folders for the info I wanted.

 I never thought of using the MRIN method when I was starting out, so
 when I started using digital files I just duplicated the method I used
 when I put everything into paper folders.

 Mary




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Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.

[JLB]

I like the sound of the one folder method too. Why complicate things?
The only reason I can think of is that I want to make it understandable
to my non-techie family and likely inheritors. And I also want to be
able to easily find batches of specific files.

Windows Explorer is a pretty sad excuse for search though. For instance
if I search 'Harris' it will bring up everything keyword tagged Harris
but also every folder with the name Harris in it and every location that
has Harris in it. No subtlety there at all and it only recognizes a few
of the many IPTC fields. And, being Windows, of course names them
differently than the accepted standard.

For tagging and searching, there's the free GeoSetter (location data and
GPS as well as all the range of IPTC tags; keywords, captions, object
name (where I put type of records) source, copyright and much more.
http://www.geosetter.de/en/

Or XnView. http://www.xnview.com/

Photo Mechanic is also very good but costs about $150.
http://www.camerabits.com/site/

Anything that does batch tagging and detailed search (all of the
above-mentioned) is a real boon when you're dealing with thousands of files.

Adobe does some gawd awful things with metadata which I've mostly
forgotten now because I moved away from using it a long time ago. One
thing I do remember is that it strips out all maker notes.
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On 3/15/2013 5:40 PM, Paul Gray wrote:
 Ron Walter,

 I think your approach (one big folder, use other tools to
 organize/find) is actually being touted by some as best practice. I
 use Adobe Photoshop to attach tags or keywords to all photos and
 documents, and then use its search functions to find them. However,
 you don't need a paid program like Photoshop, the free Windows Live
 Photo Gallery has similar capabilities.

 One advantage is that one can attach multiple tags/keywords/labels to
 photos. For example, I use one keyword 'gravestone' for all
 headstones/markers, and then add keywords for each of the surnames on
 that marker. Works equally well with group photos. I must admit I am
 in the process of doing this tagging, and I haven't yet actually been
 brave enough to move everything into one folder, but it is where I'm
 heading.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.

[JLB]

I don't think there is a 'strict' MRIN filing system. In its
'officiality' as originally designed by Karen Clifford, it's only a
paper-based system. The digital side is wide open to personal creativity.
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On 3/15/2013 5:22 PM, Bruce Jones wrote:
 I am using a modification of the strict MRIN filing method

 I have 4 grandparent surnames: Jones, Barnes, Warr, Tingey
 So I have created 9 main folders:
 Jones, JonesR, Barnes, BarnesR, Warr, WarrR, Tingey, TingeyR, and Misc.
 (those ending in R are related or married into the grandparent line)
 I then create MRIN subfolders for each family within one of the main 9
 folders,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Print book

[JLB]

Good heavens. I hope the MRIN's don't revert to 'default'. I'm not even
sure what that means. My entire filing system is based on them and I've
never seen them change by themselves. It would be a nightmare if they did.

Saving them? What does that mean?
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On 3/6/2013 2:38 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 I don't think that there is a way of savng the MRINs, maybe you could use a 
 tag?

 The USR files are to be found in the main Legacy folder not a sub-folder.
 ---
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 CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote:


 Oh.  Is there any way to save the MRINS so that the next time I want, I can 
 load those?  Is the only way to recreate this report to open the saved 
 report (PDF, text, etc.) and search for them?  Other reports are for one 
 person = easy to recreate.  This is a real pain for the Multiple Lines of 
 Descent report because you aren't searching for RINs but MRINs. In which 
 folder are the .usr files saved?  I want to be sure to save them because so 
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Re: [LegacyUG] I'm getting an Endless Loop message

[JLB]

Or run a Potential Problems report.
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On 3/3/2013 1:53 PM, Ron Taylor wrote:
 A real loop, where someone is their own grandfather, will continue no
 matter what option you chose.  Repeating lines can be eliminated as
 Terri suggested.  I do have a few old royal pedigrees.  When I try to do
 an Ancestor report, it will show This individual has now been processed
 3 times.  You could be in an endless loop.  I set the warn again
 after to 10 and click Continue Processing.  It will stop again,
 showing another RIN that has been encountered multiple times.  I set it
 to 20 and again it stops.  I set it to 30 and again it stops.  I set it
 to 40 and finally it will finish.  That means that I descend from
 someone in the database more than 30 different ways.  I set it to 31 and
 it finishes also so the magic number of duplicate encounters for my
 lineeage is 30.  If I had tried higher and higher numbers and never
 found a limit to the duplicates being encountered, then I would know
 that there is a true endless loop.  For example, if I had entered the
 max for the field of 250 and it still bounced back then there is
 probably a loop and not simply multiple lineages to the same person.  I
 doubt that there are real pedigrees with more than 50 duplicate
 encounters and that would most likely require a very large database.  A
 typical family file may only have a few of these duplicate lineages.

 Anyway, by noting the RIN displayed, you can investigate descendants of
 that RIN to see if there are any parents younger than their children.
   Those are the real loops.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Search

[JLB]

Go to your Master Source List and choose Find-A-Grave. In the sidebar
click Show List. Tag that list.

Created by: isn't necessarily Event Notes. Maybe it's some other kind of
notes.
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On 2/15/2013 3:22 PM, Lloyd L. Hite wrote:


   Hello List,

 I am trying to compile a list of people in my database that has a 
 Find-A-Grave source and Created by: in the Notes. I did SearchDetailed 
 Search Look for Whom Individual Where to Look Event Name How to Look 
  Contains What to Look For Find-A-Grave.

 Second Condition and Where to Look Events Notes How to Look Contains 
 What to Look For Created by:

 I have tried several times and gets this error message.

 NO RECORDS WERE FOUND THAT MATCH THE SEARCH CRITERIA.

 What am I doing wrong?


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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicate spouses

[JLB]

Thanks. I think I worked it out. New MRINs got assigned to some of the
people when opening one file into another. I could swear I un-ticked
that box. Nothing to do with LTools. Or merging either.
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On 2/11/2013 9:11 AM, Ron Taylor wrote:
 This is probably a question that Dennis Kowalek should answer but I think the 
 Ltool you are using has the option to put a / and then the MRIN of the 
 parents in the UserID field.  So 2019/3726 may mean that the individual's 
 MRIN is 2019 and the parent's MRIN is 3726.

 You are likely getting duplicate problems because a given MRIN should apply 
 to 2 people.  If you are doing that in two separate databases and then 
 combining those databases...the MRINs in the UserID will definitely be 
 confusing if utilized for merging.
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[LegacyUG] duplicate spouses

[JLB]

I've merged several small files together. Not that much overlap. Like
almost none. All the MRINs are/were as I want them. After running LTools
to put the MRINs into the UserID fields, I noticed (and this may have
nothing to do with LTools) that many of the people in the database have
two versions of the same spouse. Not duplicate people but just two
listings of the same spouse in the Spouse list. And each one has a
different MRIN; the original and another one.

I'm going through the names un-linking one spouse but I have no way of
knowing which MRIN I'm deleting so this is getting treacherous.

And it's messy. I'm just saying. Has anyone heard of a similar problem?
And is there an easy fix for it?

Oh, and I also noticed this problem after running File Maintenance
thinking that might help the database overall. Apparently not.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing File

[JLB]

Assuming your files aren't actually 'missing' but are in the folder
where you say you put them called Genealogy Data, you simply need to
browse to that location (from the window you are/were at called Master
Picture/Sound/Video/File Path List using the Add button and then click
OK. That will set the file-path and everything should link up again.
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On 2/6/2013 3:34 PM, James Gallagher wrote:
 Sherry:-I did as you asked, I done it two times as the program
 suggested, the second time I seem to have got rid of the Error but the
 Missing Files Message still comes up with my entire family
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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Multimedia file

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108 refers to either the RIN or the MRIN, but probably the RIN. Record
Identification Number. Those numbers in the bottom right of most
screens; H, M, and W are the husband's RIN, the MRIN and the wife's RIN.
Click in one the RIN boxes, a small window will come up. Type in 108,
hit Enter and see where it takes you. Then click around through your
picture galleries and you should see the missing file represented by a
question mark. It may be in the individual's gallery or it may be
attached (in this case, not attached) as a source document in one of the
other picture galleries.
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On 2/6/2013 8:39 PM, Chuck Schober wrote:
 The error message tells me that individual 108 is missing a file called
 abc.  How do I find the entry in individual 108 referring to file abc?

 Thanks in advance
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Re: [LegacyUG] old files

[JLB]

Well, they will but you'll lose the settings they refer to and you'll
have to set your settings all over again at which time those files will
be regenerated depending what each one is for. Is there some reason
you've become fixated on this question that we can answer more directly?

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On 2/3/2013 1:21 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
 What I don't understand is this:  Legacy generated those little files in
 the first place; why won't it do it again, if needed?

 Pat

 On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 6:13 AM, Brian/Support
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 go to help and search for file extensions. That has a list of the
 extensions used and list what some of them mean.

 Brian
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 On 02-Feb-13 23:21, Pat Hickin wrote:
   I don't quite understand -- can you give me an example??
  
   Pat
  
   On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Brian/Support
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.comwrote:
  
   Most of them are for things like calculating relationships, saving
   clipboards and such actions. Ones with your family file name and an
   extension are related to your file and may contain links to records
   within the file.
  
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   I thought Legacy generated them from the .fdb file?
  
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Re: [LegacyUG] PDF Reports

[JLB]

There does seem to be a PDF limit in Legacy. You can get around this by
installing your own PDF driver and using that to print instead. Try PDF
Creator. http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/

When you go to print, choose Screen/Printer, then Print Setup so you can
choose your PDF printer.
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On 2/1/2013 12:19 PM, JMB wrote:
 I have been trying to produce some copies of a tree for some friends without 
 LEGACY.  Is there a limit to the size of PDF file that can be produced?  I 
 know that when I tried similar on my main (and bigger) tree then LEGACY 
 crashed.  I could produce a report file of this other tree with about 2000 
 pages OK but when I added the Timeline LEGACY crashed.

 I got Passage Express some years ago but was very disappointed, it is very 
 fiddly and never seemed to do what I wanted.  It no longers works presumably 
 because of Windows 7.

 The only other way for my main tree is to output as 'Create Web Site' though 
 it would be nice if it would include all the pictures for each person.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Finding by ID number

[JLB]

I fill the User ID fields with the MRINs using LTools. As I file by MRIN
I have the option to turn on User IDs across Legacy in places that use
the RINs by default.

It may be possible for you to use LTools to assign some other
suitable-to-you numbers into the User ID fields instead.

http://ltoolshelp.zippersoftware.com/#31-en

http://zippersoftware.com/wp/ltools/what-is-ltools/
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On 1/27/2013 10:00 AM, Jane Sarles wrote:
 I don't believe I have ever established user ID numbers, since I thought
 that was what the RIN was.  What do others use as User ID numbers?  I
 like the ahnentafal numbering system (1 for me; 2 for my father; 3 for
 my mother, etc) but it would not do, since, for my children's benefit, I
 have their fathers genealogy in my data base as well.  All that side
 would have no number.  How on earth do I assign User IDs at this late
 date anyhow?

 Don't know how it can happen, but I seem to be a newbie after doing
 genealogy for 30 years and Legacy for 6 or 7 years.

 Jane





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Re: [LegacyUG] conflicting info

[JLB]

I'd write the story under Research notes for the person whose Will it is
and get onto something I care about.
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On 1/27/2013 5:55 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
 Let's say there is a big debate as to whether John B---'s daughter
 Martha B- or daughter Ellen B-- married Robert G--- and had
 daughters  Mary G  and Jean G-, both of whom are  named in their
 maternal grandfather B---'s will.

 Let's say there is no good way to find out readily and they are not in
 your direct line and you don't want to expend a lot of time and energy,
 but you do want to document their existence and the controversy.

 I'd love to know where and how you handle this kind of matter??

 Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Search list question

[JLB]

I think you need two tags there. Tag the first list, (with tag 1, for
instance). Then do a search for direct ancestors and tag those with a
second tag number (tag 2, for instance). Then do a search for
Individuals with Tag 1 and Tag 2.

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On 1/21/2013 1:03 PM, John Roose wrote:
 An example: I have a search list of people born, died, buried in Ohio.
From that list of several hundred names, what is the easiest way to
 identify those that are direct ancestors? They are, of course, bold in
 the resulting Search List but there has to be an easier way than
 scrolling down and tagging them individually. Suggestions?

 Thanx. John

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Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures

[JLB]

I've heard this same thing about scanners from my cousin, Sam, who
insists her scanner can only scan pictures as JPG's. I doubt it but I
haven't seen her scanner.

When you scan pictures you're just scanning them. It doesn't have
anything to do with file format. It's when you save them that you choose
a format. Use the drop down arrow next to Save to choose TIFF.

When you want to convert a TIFF to a JPG, simply open the TIFF in any
photo software (XnView and Paint.NET are both free) and re-save it as a
JPG. This can also be done in batch-mode in some software.
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On 1/19/2013 3:29 AM, Barbara wrote:
 Do I need a special program to put the pictures into TIFF?

 My scanner shows only JPEG and PDF.  I have a copier/scanner/fax.

 I appreciate all of you who have taken the time to write me.  I have Jeff's
 book (didn't see the workshop on line), but I haven't been able to decifer
 TIFF.  I know that seems to be the best place to save family photos that
 there appears to be only one of a kind and then make copies in JPEG to
 share.

 A hearty thank you to each of you who responded.  As you can see I'm still
 learning.
 Barb


 - Original Message -
 From: JLB j...@jgen.ws
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures


 If you have something like Adobe Photoshop Elements you can open your
 PDF's there and it will extract the photos for you. Do it one PDF at a time.

 The other way (depending on the size of your photos) is to open the PDF
 as usual. Depending on your PDF reader there may be a camera icon in the
 menu that allows you to take a screenshot of the photo. You'd want to be
 able to do that at full size, of course.

 It depends what software is available to you but,no, you can't edit a
 photo inside a PDF. Not in the way you mean, anyway.

 And no, you shouldn't be editing JPG's. It's a compressed format and
 every time you edit and re-save you'll lose picture quality. Your photos
 should be in TIFF to begin with but that's not always possible.
 
 JL Beeken
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 http://jlog.jgen.ws/

 On 1/18/2013 1:35 PM, Barbara wrote:
 Hopefully you don't think this is off topic.
 Two questions about pdf saved photos:
 1.  Is there a way to edit pdf saved pictures?
2. If not is there a way to change pdf saved pictures into jpeg so
 they can be edited?
 I'm learning, and have saved several phots in pdf and have not been able
 to work with them.  Maybe I've learned a lesson and should save all of
 them in jpeg.
 Awaiting your thoughts and expertise.
 Barb


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Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures

[JLB]

I believe the original question was about scanning images. Why are you
mixing this up with talk about downloading images?
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On 1/19/2013 1:01 PM, SHIRLEY ANDERSON wrote:
 A scanner may give you the option to save a file as a TIFF, but a lot of
 websites don't.  I checked a few of my favorites.


 Ancestry's only option is .jpg.
 American Ancestors and Family Search save as .jpg. They don't give you an 
 option
 but they do allow you to open it in a photo editor instead.


 I have a lot of older images of books that are .gif.  I'm not sure that any
 websites are using that any more.

   ~~
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Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures

[JLB]

XnView can also be used to 'Select TWAIN Source' and it's free. After
clicking the Scan button in XnView, my Epson scanner windows open as
usual for a choice of other options. The scanned photo then shows up in
XnView and can be saved from there in whatever format I choose through
the 'Save file as' option in Windows.

It's quite do-able if your scanner won't do a TIFF by itself. I
generally use Epson directly after setting the Save option for TIFF and
the Save location.

What I've seen about saving TIFF's is that None is the default
compression option but it's worth checking to make sure. LZW, which is
lossless, can be used to save space. To reconstitute to the original
size, just re-save with the None compression option.

The word on the street about re-saving JPG's is to not change the level
of compression. If you stick with the original the damage is less.

I don't bother making JPG copies of my edited TIFF's unless I have a
reason for it; emailing, web use, wikis, etc. I have almost nothing
linked to Legacy.
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On 1/19/2013 1:03 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
 The reason that some people claim they can only scan an image as one
 particular file format is that they are most likely using the
 proprietary software that came with the scanner. In such cases, the
 software is so simplistic and lacking in options, the image is
 imported into Windows as a JPG only, or perhaps only as a BMP. They
 don't realize that they can use a number of free imaging programs
 such as Irfanview and a multitude of others that will allow them to
 use the scanner (just Google free image scanning programs) as long as
 the driver supplied by the scanner is Twain compliant (almost all
 are). Such programs are full of features that offer the capability to
 save a scanned image in a number of different file formats.

 Methinks that the argument about lossy compression of JPEGS is
 overblown when considering that with most programs the user has the
 option to choose the amount of compression to be used by the
 algorithms in saving the JPEG. Just try staying away from the
 defaults. Using Photoshop, I always choose 12 which results in next
 to no compression. Studies have shown that multiple saves of a JPEG
 using this compression setting results in an image that is
 practically indiscernible from the original. I just don't like the
 idea of having a Master TIFF image and then another identical image
 in JPG format. Seems counter-intuitive when hard drive space is cheap
 so I have no problem with 5 or 6 meg pictures. Besides, I usually
 edit my scanned images only once or twice and never touch them after
 that. But to each his own.

 And after all is said and done, I just can't argue against the basic
 concept that a TIFF format will keep your image in its original
 pristine condition and a JPEG will technically change every time one
 re-saves it. Just make sure you are using an un-compressed TIFF
 format. There are several options for a compressed TIFF and some of
 those options are a lossy compression technique which puts you right
 back into the realm of a JPEG image. I don't think Geoff Rasmussen
 and others have made this point strong enough and so I suspect that
 there are many Legacy users unknowingly saving their images in a
 lossy compressed TIFF format.


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Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures

[JLB]

If you have something like Adobe Photoshop Elements you can open your
PDF's there and it will extract the photos for you. Do it one PDF at a time.

The other way (depending on the size of your photos) is to open the PDF
as usual. Depending on your PDF reader there may be a camera icon in the
menu that allows you to take a screenshot of the photo. You'd want to be
able to do that at full size, of course.

It depends what software is available to you but,no, you can't edit a
photo inside a PDF. Not in the way you mean, anyway.

And no, you shouldn't be editing JPG's. It's a compressed format and
every time you edit and re-save you'll lose picture quality. Your photos
should be in TIFF to begin with but that's not always possible.

JL Beeken
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On 1/18/2013 1:35 PM, Barbara wrote:
 Hopefully you don't think this is off topic.
 Two questions about pdf saved photos:
 1.  Is there a way to edit pdf saved pictures?
   2. If not is there a way to change pdf saved pictures into jpeg so
 they can be edited?
 I'm learning, and have saved several phots in pdf and have not been able
 to work with them.  Maybe I've learned a lesson and should save all of
 them in jpeg.
 Awaiting your thoughts and expertise.
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Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures

[JLB]

If you want to know that you can try it. Take a JPG and re-save it a few
times. Yes, photos in Legacy should be in JPG for size. That doesn't
mean editing them over and over. I start with TIFF and convert a copy to
JPG if I want to link it. Just viewing them doesn't degrade them.
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On 1/18/2013 2:04 PM, gcr...@juno.com wrote:
 Just how much does a JPG 'degrade' when you edit it? Isn't recommended
 that photo's in Legacy be in JPG format? Does just viewing them in
 Legacy, or any other app for that matter, degrade them?

 gc


 -- Original Message --
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 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures
 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:56:12 -0800

 And no, you shouldn't be editing JPG's. It's a compressed format and
 every time you edit and re-save you'll lose picture quality. Your photos
 should be in TIFF to begin with but that's not always possible.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Lead Error Message

[JLB]

2.7MB is a big picture to attach to Legacy. If you're continually
attaching large images like that to Legacy you may have maxed out
Legacy's ability to handle them. If you try something smaller does it
still give you the problem?
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On 1/17/2013 4:06 PM, Diane wrote:
 I'm attaching document images in source details and all of a sudden I'm
 getting an error message that reads:  LEAD Error: Not enough memory
 available.  I've added hundreds of images and documents and have never
 had this happen before.  The image I'm trying to add is 2,700KB.  I
 don't believe it's my system as I'm running Windows 7 w/ 9GB of RAM, and
 no other programs are running.  I tried rebooting, but still get the
 message.  I haven't received it in any other program except Legacy.

 Anyone have any ideas about the problem or a solution??  Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] Webinar calendar

[JLB]

This calendar did import but I realized a couple hours later it imported
all webinars going back to when Legacy webinars began, not just the
upcoming ones.
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On 1/5/2013 6:10 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
 That worked just fine.  It went straight to Outlook :)

 Michele


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 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Webinar calendar

 JLB said the following on 1/4/2013 9:04 PM:
 Is there any way to get the webinar calendar for 2013 in a format that
 I can import into my present calendar? ical or ics, for instance. I
 don't use Google Calendar and don't want to.

 The file downloaded via this link:
 https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/legacyfamilytree.com_1dbb76rklg9uqeajd75dr9odnk%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics
 (watch for wrapped URL) might allow you to get the calendar in ICAL or ICS 
 format for import. This is the link given to me for the ICAL link of that 
 calendar.

 Regards,
 Ken







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Re: [LegacyUG] Search for the number of spouses

[JLB]

Under Search/Find/Miscellaneous is an option to find people with
multiple spouses.


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On 1/5/2013 12:35 PM, Lloyd L. Hite wrote:


Hello List,
Is  there  a  way to find the number of spouses of everyone that had
more  than  one? I have a lot of spouses that are out of order and I
want a quick way of correcting them.


   Lloyd  mailto:lhite3...@juno.com




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Re: [LegacyUG] Birthdays, Death Dates and Anniversaries

[JLB]

I can't recreate it now that's it's 'fixed' on my computer but it seemed
at the time it had something to do with people who I didn't have
specific dates for, just the years. Anyone without a month and day was
being automatically assigned January 1st as their birthday.
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On 12/31/2012 12:30 AM, Mike Fry wrote:
 On 2012/12/31 10:27, Mike Fry wrote:
 On 2012/12/31 10:07, JLB wrote:

 I noticed something like that the other day. A huge list of people whose
 birthday is supposedly January 1st. I turned off the reminder and then
 turned it back on just now and it's working fine.

 Nope! Tried that! Turned the options off - reminders disappeared. Even shut 
 down
 and restarted before re-enabling the options. Same problem. Also, an 
 anniversary
 on 5th January is only 4 days away :-)

 Anything to do with the fact that 2012 was a leap year? Or just a coincidence?




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Re: [LegacyUG] web site hosting

[JLB]

There are free sites
http://webstream.jgen.ws/idesign/site-builders/
http://webstream.jgen.ws/idesign/blogs/
http://webstream.jgen.ws/idesign/wikis/

and there is

paid hosting with your choice of CMS.
http://webstream.jgen.ws/idesign/hosting/

Free sites can be OK but there's a hidden price to pay in lack of
freedom and options and possible advertising on your site to pay for the
'free' part.

If you want to expand your offerings later as your knowledge increases
it can be hard and/or time-consuming to move to paid hosting.

My personal preference is paid hosting and I use Hostgator. It SO
depends on you.
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On 12/28/2012 6:24 PM, Naomi SMITH BLACK wrote:
 I have been playing catch up with my email.  Have read a lot of info on
 using Legacy to make a web site.  I'd like to try it but where do you
 host these web sites?
 /*


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 Marietta, GA.*/

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Re: [LegacyUG] individuals that have sources with pictures attatched

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Try Scrapbook options. Choose All individuals and then Source citation
detail at the bottom of that column. And on the right hand side, choose
Include picture files.
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On 12/25/2012 7:54 PM, unique64 Riley wrote:
 Is there a way to create, tag or print a list of those individuals who
 have a source that has a picture attached to the source citation detail?
 Thanks,
 Monique


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Re: [LegacyUG] individuals that have sources with pictures attatched

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If you haven't already found out, this doesn't work. I don't know what does.
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On 12/25/2012 8:05 PM, JLB wrote:
 Try Scrapbook options. Choose All individuals and then Source citation
 detail at the bottom of that column. And on the right hand side, choose
 Include picture files.
 ---
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 On 12/25/2012 7:54 PM, unique64 Riley wrote:
 Is there a way to create, tag or print a list of those individuals who
 have a source that has a picture attached to the source citation detail?
 Thanks,
 Monique


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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing a location name

[JLB]

It depends where you put the address. If you added it to the Address
book you can change it there. If you tell us where you entered the
address we could give you a better answer.
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On 12/22/2012 5:49 PM, Corney Keller wrote:
 Hello Rich,

 You can manage and change place names in one go from the Master Location
 List.

 Cheers,

 Corney Keller
 Zaandam, NL

 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Falzini [mailto:rfalz...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: zondag 23 december 2012 2:19
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Changing a location name

 Hello everyone,
I have the name of a church listed as a place of
 marriage and today I located the actual name of the church.

 I have this church listed over 100 times,but now I want to use the correct
 name.

 Do I make the change one by one, or can I change to the new name and change
 all at one time?

 Thanks

 Rich in Cleveland, Ohio

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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing a location name

[JLB]

Do you mean in the same box as the date? Surely not.

Assuming you put it in the address field, then it can be changed in the
Master Locations list.
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On 12/22/2012 8:00 PM, Rich Falzini wrote:
 I entered the name of the church after the marriage date

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 22, 2012, at 9:19 PM, JLBj...@jgen.ws  wrote:

 It depends where you put the address. If you added it to the Address
 book you can change it there. If you tell us where you entered the
 address we could give you a better answer.
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 On 12/22/2012 5:49 PM, Corney Keller wrote:
 Hello Rich,

 You can manage and change place names in one go from the Master Location
 List.

 Cheers,

 Corney Keller
 Zaandam, NL

 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Falzini [mailto:rfalz...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: zondag 23 december 2012 2:19
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Changing a location name

 Hello everyone,
I have the name of a church listed as a place of
 marriage and today I located the actual name of the church.

 I have this church listed over 100 times,but now I want to use the correct
 name.

 Do I make the change one by one, or can I change to the new name and change
 all at one time?

 Thanks

 Rich in Cleveland, Ohio

 Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [LegacyUG] New scanner - Legacy Profile (Colour?)

[JLB]

Black and white should/could be scanned as grayscale. I think you'll
find, if you try it, that black and white will not make a good scan. Why
color if there's no color in your document? Same with photos.
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On 12/14/2012 2:53 PM, lio . wrote:
 Thank you everyone for your replies. I feel much braver about attempting
 to begin scanning my documents.

 One question I forgot to ask was about colour (added the word Colour to
 the subject line). So, thanks to everyone, I've learned to scan a black
 and white text document as a 600 dpi TIF, should I scan it in black and
 white, grayscale, or in colour? What about black and white photos?

 Thank you.

   From: da...@schmeckabernathy.com
   To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
   Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] New scanner - Legacy Profile
   Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 08:44:54 -0800
  
   When printing the biggest controlling factor is the printer itself.
 If you have a very cheap printer, the DPI and LPI can be as low as 72.
   Have a read for some real information about printing images at
 http://www.design215.com/toolbox/print_guide.php
  
   Thanks,
   David C Abernathy
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   == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus ==
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
   Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 11:27 AM
   To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
   Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New scanner - Legacy Profile
  
   Syble,
  
   You are quite correct to suggest that 300dpi is about right for
 printing, and also that 72 is too low. I tend to think that the
 appropriate resolution depends on how one mainly publishes the work.
 Mine is on the web, for which 90dpi is the most suitable and that is
 what I use for Legacy pictures.
  
   However, when producing reports etc. I always post-process in a
 word-processor, and it is at this stage that I import the images as
 250dpi jpgs of the correct dimensions.
  
   ---
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   http://www.fergys.co.uk/
   GOONS #5307
  
   Syble Glasscock syble_...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
   I've had a scanner for years and didn't know to keep a separate file
 for Tiff's, it's certainly a good idea as has been suggested, to keep
 the scanned originals is a separate folder and have another folder with
 copies at a lower resolution. for legacy, personally I wouldn't have the
 copies as low as 72 dpi, remember they need to be at 300 dpi for
 printing. I'd be interested at what dpi others use for Legacy,
 considering the fact that most of our Legacy use, the photo would be a
 small size, so I'm not sure what would be ideal.
Syble
   
   
   
From: lio . likeitouts...@hotmail.com
   To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
   Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2012 11:23 AM
   Subject: [LegacyUG] New scanner - Legacy Profile
   
   
   
   I've been good at sourcing, but up until now I haven't had a
 scanner to attach scans of the document to source. But this morning I
 inherited a pretty nice scanjet from my brother who upgraded.
   
   I've been reading that I should create an untouched 600 dpi TIF
 scan of each document for archival purposes. But I'm worried attaching a
 whack of 600 dpi (10 MB) scans to Legacy will slow down my computer and
 Legacy.
   
   Is it better to keep the 600 dpi TIF for my archives, and
 create/attach a 72 dpi JPG scan of each document to attach to Legacy?
   
   What do others do?
   
   LIO
   
   
   
  
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Re: [LegacyUG] fixing duplicates

[JLB]

No. You should be looking at the information for each individual. If
you're not sure if they're the same, use the Tagging option so you can
later bring those up in the Name List by searching that tag number. Then
you'll see the 'pairs' next to each other and you can click from one to
the other to see if they're the same person or not. Then you can use
Manual Merge to merge them. That's when you would use the RIN's to bring
them up in the Merge window.
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On 12/11/2012 2:07 PM, MJ SA wrote:
 I did a report to Find Duplicates, it seems I have a lot of them.  I
 am not sure about other naming traditions, but Italians repeat names
 constantly. So I see the duplicates by the RIN Numbers.  Although when
 I look at my index of my surnames I do not see duplicates. So is
 looking at the RIN numbers on the duplicate report  the correct way to
 fix my tree?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Charts

[JLB]

Can you re-order the husbands in Legacy before you produce the chart? Go
to View/Husband List for your aunt and change the order.
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On 12/11/2012 4:57 PM, Sandra Hopgood wrote:
 Hi Group (and Merry Christmas)
 Is there a way of easily changing the order of the boxes in a chart?
 The problem I'm having is when there are 2 spouses for 1 individual and
 _I don't have marriage dates attached to either_ of them.
 For example I have an Aunt who married husband 1 and had children, then
 divorced and remarried. At the moment reading across the chart boxes she
 appears, then husband 2, then husband 1 (with the children below him).
 I want to be able to reverse the order. I want Husband 1 (who is
 selected as the preferred spouse) to appear beside my aunt then husband 2.
 I know I can drag the boxes to the preferred place in the chart but it
 is really tedious way of doing it.
 Any suggestions?
 Sandra



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Re: [LegacyUG] Charts

[JLB]

Try reversing the preferred spouse the other way. You may have fixed it
and then canceled it out.

Are they are in alphabetical order in the chart? Maybe that's what
Legacy is doing with it. You really have to look at every option.
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On 12/11/2012 8:52 PM, Sandra Hopgood wrote:
 I've tried changing the order of the spouse and also tried changing the
 selected preferred spouse.
 It makes no difference, the boxes still read in the same order across
 the generation line.
 I only have this problem with the few couples who I don't have marriage
 dates against so the program must be making some kind of assumption
 about the marriage order. It's not the RIN or MRIN either, because they
 are entered chronologically.
 Any other suggestions?
 Sandra


 --- On *Wed, 12/12/12, Pat Hickin /pph...@gmail.com/*wrote:


 From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Charts
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Received: Wednesday, 12 December, 2012, 2:03 PM

 Or you can click on the spouse, which brings up a little box of
 spouses, then move the highlighted spouse up or down using the black
 arrows in the lower right corner.

 Pat

 On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:14 PM, JLB j...@jgen.ws
 /mc/compose?to=j...@jgen.ws wrote:

 Can you re-order the husbands in Legacy before you produce the
 chart? Go
 to View/Husband List for your aunt and change the order.
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 On 12/11/2012 4:57 PM, Sandra Hopgood wrote:
   Hi Group (and Merry Christmas)
   Is there a way of easily changing the order of the boxes in a
 chart?
   The problem I'm having is when there are 2 spouses for 1
 individual and
   _I don't have marriage dates attached to either_ of them.
   For example I have an Aunt who married husband 1 and had
 children, then
   divorced and remarried. At the moment reading across the
 chart boxes she
   appears, then husband 2, then husband 1 (with the children
 below him).
   I want to be able to reverse the order. I want Husband 1 (who is
   selected as the preferred spouse) to appear beside my aunt
 then husband 2.
   I know I can drag the boxes to the preferred place in the
 chart but it
   is really tedious way of doing it.
   Any suggestions?
   Sandra
  
  
  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown

[JLB]

Try looking at View/Tree Finder. Hit the Refresh button and then go
examine the various trees. Maybe the unlinked Unknowns will show up
there and you can remove them.
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On 12/9/2012 9:28 PM, Anne Hollingshead wrote:

   Yes I have unlinked them. How did I get them ???



   I have many unknowns in my data base. How did they get there
   when I have checked just leave it blank   and how do I get
   rid of them altogether ?



   Anne


 On 10/12/2012 2:41 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
 Have you tried unlinking them?

 Pat

 On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Anne Hollingshead
 holl...@melbpc.org.au mailto:holl...@melbpc.org.au wrote:

 I have three instances in my data base (marriage list) where
 unknown is married to unknown.
 The Rin numbers refer to other individuals. I can find no way of
 deleting these entries.
 I have just leave it blank checked.

 Anne




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source List Name?

[JLB]

It really doesn't matter. It's your list and you're the one who has to
be able to find things in it, unless or until Legacy programs it for
search.

I sort mine by type. And that 'type' would probably fall under Family
Group Sheets: [name].
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On 12/9/2012 7:40 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
 As a matter of curiosity, what Source List Name would you give for the
 following (which I have cited for 16 individuals in my .fdb)?

 James Morgan Family Group Sheet
 Author: Unknown submitter/compiler
 Publ. Facts: Morgan Vertical File, Hampshire Co Library, Romney, WV
 [I saw this on 2 Aug 2002  I assume there's no other date, though I
 failed to say so.]

 Pat


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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing date format??

[JLB]

If the placement of the dates is as random as you're suggesting then,
yeah, that would be tough.
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On 12/9/2012 7:55 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
 I don't suppose there's a way of /easily /changing a bunch of
 /different/ dates written, e.g. 12/09/2012, into e.g.,09 Dec 2012?

 (These are part of some source list names /or titles.)

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Re: [LegacyUG] New scanner - Legacy Profile

[JLB]

Don't change the JPG resolution. Do your original scans as TIFF's (600
dpi is fine) and keep those for your archives. Then batch convert them
to JPG's to attach to Legacy. Most photo editors can do that for you.

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On 12/1/2012 9:23 AM, lio . wrote:
 I've been good at sourcing, but up until now I haven't had a scanner to
 attach scans of the document to source. But this morning I inherited a
 pretty nice scanjet from my brother who upgraded.

 I've been reading that I should create an untouched 600 dpi TIF scan of
 each document for archival purposes. But I'm worried attaching a whack
 of 600 dpi (10 MB) scans to Legacy will slow down my computer and Legacy.

 Is it better to keep the 600 dpi TIF for my archives, and create/attach
 a 72 dpi JPG scan of each document to attach to Legacy?

 What do others do?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

[JLB]

I record an obit under Death Notes for the individual, and use it as a
source for the other people mentioned in it. And the source would most
often be written as Newspaper: [Name, Location] and the text of the obit
copied under Source Detail.
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On 11/16/2012 1:45 PM, Lee Bruch wrote:
 And to further explain: For my use, a source is the where I heard about, or 
 others can find out about, either the event or record.
 Thus, a death is an EVENT, an obituary is a RECORD, and the newspaper that 
 ran the obituary, or where that obituary can be currently found, is a SOURCE

 -Original Message-
 From: Lee Bruch [mailto:lbr...@nwlink.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:35 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

 Everyone has their own needs and preferences. (It must be hard for genealogy 
 programmers to fulfill all those needs!!!).

 But I try to simplify things in my own mind. So for me, an event is simply 
 what happened (born, lived at, moved to, died, etc.) and a record is a record 
 of those events. So for me, an obituary would be a record.



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[LegacyUG] Re: moving Legacy to a new computer

[JLB]

What I would suggest is copy the entire Legacy folder from your old
computer onto a USB key or external hard-drive. The one at C:\Legacy.

Then go to your new computer and copy the entire folder to C:\ which is
probably where it is (check!) so it overwrites your new installation of
Legacy.

That way all your personal settings and everything will be exactly as it
is on your old computer.
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On 11/2/2012 3:57 PM, runolf...@aol.com wrote:
 I got a new computer (long over due) I was running Windows XP and now have
 Windows 7.

 What files do I need to copy from my old Legacy file to put all my stuff on
   the new computer?

 I assume I go to: C: Legacy, Data, then what do I copy? I have installed
 Legacy on my new computer.


 Thanks,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: moving Legacy to a new computer

[JLB]

He did say he'd already installed Legacy on his new computer. I did not
suggest that it's an alternative to installation but there's no reason I
can think of why he can't overwrite the new folder with the old one as
long as they're the same version number and it's not years down the road
which it didn't sound like it is.
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On 11/2/2012 8:50 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
 No - you don't want to do that.

 Copy the .USR files from the c:\Legacy folder from the old computer to
 the new one, but do not copy the entire program folder over it. That
 could cause all sorts of problems, esp with uninstalling

 Programs must be installed on a computer, not just copied over.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
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 Legacy Family Tree



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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: moving Legacy to a new computer

[JLB]

Is it better then to just restore a backup file from the older computer?
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On 11/2/2012 9:44 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
 The install.log file will be different. There could be problems
 uninstalling since the install.log registers the installation process.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


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 suggest that it's an alternative to installation but there's no reason I
 can think of why he can't overwrite the new folder with the old one as
 long as they're the same version number and it's not years down the road
 which it didn't sound like it is.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Question regarding website building

[JLB]

The information is only publicly available if someone already knows a
name. Why make it easier for the snoops by giving out the names? Anyone
born after about 1900 can still have living children. My grandmother
born in 1899 does.
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On 10/28/2012 9:57 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
 I think this bottle has been passed around many times before. As many of
 the other replies may so indicate, the choice of “Living” over the
 actual name seems to be the politically correct answer. But as what
 little hair I have left grows more grey and my eyes get dimmer, I find
 myself pondering this over and over myself. I can certainly understand
 omitting just about all details about a living person but why is it not
 prudent to just show their names?

 Before you answer, consider that their birth is a matter of public
 record, there was probably a newspaper publication naming their parents
 when they were born, probably a wedding announcement giving names of
 parents, siblings, and other relatives published in their local city and
 elsewhere. Their names are easily found by looking in the white pages of
 a phone book which not only gives the phone number but their residential
 address. Even if you’re not sure of the exact names of children then a
 quick click and visit to Spokeo.com reveals quite a bit about the
 parents including the names of their children.

 My point is that all this information is readily available and open to
 the public but for some reason the direction that genealogy has taken in
 the past 20 years is to hide even their names. Someone tell me why and
 please do it without using the word “privacy” because their lives have
 all been public so far. Just wondering.

 Brian in CA

 *From:*Richard Falzini [mailto:rfalz...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:56 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Question regarding website building

 Hello,

 I have been up dating my web site I have made with Legacy, and at the
 current moment I do not list names, birth dates, marriage dates, etc.

 of any living individuals.

 when the name of a living person should be displayed it says LIVING.

 I wanted to ask should I keep my site like that, or would it be ok to
 show the name such as Richard Falzini but suppress all personal data
 from the viewers of my site?

 I look forward to all input regarding my question

 Thanks

 Rich



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Re: [LegacyUG] Event sentence redesign

[JLB]

Thanks, Tessa. Here's the link:
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/presentations/mrin-filing-system-ppsx/
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On 10/26/2012 9:09 AM, Tessa Keough wrote:
 Last month's Legacy Virtual Users' Group recorded hangout was all
 about how one Legacy user (Linda McCauley) sets up and uses her
 Events/Facts in the program. She showed how she created her own
 events, how she updated sentences, and how she included notes and
 photos in the events section. Although I play around (update my
 sentences for events/facts) I had not considered having notes there.
 The layout and ability to read better in a report was really nice
 (and a bit of a surprise). Additionally she puts her photos in the
 events/facts section and they print out (in that date order) in her
 reports - very nice. There are so many ways that people use Legacy and
 it is always helpful to discuss and learn how others use the program.

 If you want to lean how other Legacy users do things in Legacy - check
 out the recordings. They can be found at YouTube (search LVUG
 Hangouts) or at the Legacy Virtual Users' Group Google+ Page (at the
 file cabinet). There are (so far) a half dozen additional recorded
 hangouts covering an overview of Legacy, customizing Legacy, sources,
 tagging, Legacy in the cloud,  data entry for locations, and most
 recently events/facts. In addition to the recordings - the slides used
 for the presentation are available to review (also at the file
 cabinet).

 Also JL Beeken has a great slide presentation on her website about her
 MRIN filing system that I found really helpful. I am sure there are
 lots of other Legacy users out there who have written about Legacy on
 their websites or blogs. Why not direct the rest of us to your posts?

 Tessa Keough
 Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089
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Re: [LegacyUG] syncing files

[JLB]

Syncback if you create different backup sets for the different versions.
A bit off topic but it's a direction to try.

Dropbox saves versions going back 30 days but I haven't used it the way
you're suggesting so I don't know for sure.

I'm wondering why you want different versions. Sync means that the
latest version prevails on whichever device you're on.
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On 10/26/2012 2:42 PM, Marg Strong wrote:
 I have been using a sync program to sync all files from my working drive
 to my backup drives. Since I use one drive and copy to only backup
 drives it's worked well.

 But now I have a laptop and will be working on legacy while traveling
 and it doesn't seems as though my chronosync program will save both
 the older file and the newer one that is different. I can't find a way
 to do that. I haven't yet delved into drop box. What happens with files
 of the same name and different contents? Is there a sync program that
 will save a copy the way a program like Adobe Bridge or even microsoft
 explorer, I think, will save both files, adding a (1) to the second copy.

 Hoping you can help me figure out how to do this! Thank you, Peggy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Transcribing

[JLB]

Transcript
http://www.jacobboerema.nl/en/Freeware.htm

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On 10/26/2012 4:07 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote:
 Copy what you see always, you can always note what the usual name
 spelling is in brackets.

 I love a little thing called Transcribe which puts the jpg (or other
 image) in the upper window and text in the bottom, someone posted the
 link which I can't find nowG


 Eliz

 On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Marg Strongtiny...@yahoo.com  wrote:
  I don't know if transcribe is the correct term. I gathered many
 photocopies of documents on a recent trip and would like to transcribe
 them into text files. I've tried Windows Voice Recognition but it takes
 longer than typing (though I'm concrned about carpal tunnel ?)).

 My question: When you transcribe, do you enter the spelling and grammar
 errors in the original or correct the obvious ones? If the document is old,
 do you use the old language or update it for modern readers? (adding a note
 to that effect)?

 Thank you.
 Peggy



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Re: [LegacyUG] syncing files

[JLB]

There has to be an easier way than what you're doing. If it's only one
file that's being changed you can remember it, but if it's more you're
going to get confused, pretty much guaranteed.

If you're using Syncback then you know you can set up backup or sync
profiles. All you need in the middle is an external HD to go from one to
the other.

What NOT to do is work on your desktop and then your laptop without
syncing the files before you change computers.

Another way to go at this is using SugarSync, free 5GB.
(http://www.jgen.ws/sugarsync.php [referral link]) You do have to wait
for the files to sync between computers before you switch computers. And
you also have to trust the cloud.
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On 10/26/2012 7:42 PM, Marg Strong wrote:
 Since I will be traveling and working on a few documents that will be
 both in my laptop and desktop at home, it should work out ok because I
 can just replace the older. But today I ended up somehow working on a
 doc and having part of one with new notes and part on the laptop with
 other new notes. I renamed the laptop file by adding a 2 and consolidated.

 I guess that's what I meant rather than syncing: consolidating. Probably
 not possible to do except manually. Will just have to be careful to work
 on docs in only one pc.

 Thanks for the response (I do use SyncbackSE, by the way.

 
 *From:* JLB j...@jgen.ws
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Friday, October 26, 2012 3:21 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] syncing files

 Syncback if you create different backup sets for the different versions.
 A bit off topic but it's a direction to try.

 Dropbox saves versions going back 30 days but I haven't used it the way
 you're suggesting so I don't know for sure.

 I'm wondering why you want different versions. Sync means that the
 latest version prevails on whichever device you're on.
 ---
 JL Beeken
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 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

 On 10/26/2012 2:42 PM, Marg Strong wrote:
   I have been using a sync program to sync all files from my
 working drive
   to my backup drives. Since I use one drive and copy to only backup
   drives it's worked well.
  
   But now I have a laptop and will be working on legacy while traveling
   and it doesn't seems as though my chronosync program will save both
   the older file and the newer one that is different. I can't find
 a way
   to do that. I haven't yet delved into drop box. What happens with
 files
   of the same name and different contents? Is there a sync program that
   will save a copy the way a program like Adobe Bridge or even
 microsoft
   explorer, I think, will save both files, adding a (1) to the
 second copy.
  
   Hoping you can help me figure out how to do this! Thank you, Peggy
  
  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event sentence redesign

[JLB]

What you're looking for is Legacy Virtual Users' Group. Tessa didn't put
a link for it so Google it. I don't have it and would have to look it up
myself.
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On 10/26/2012 9:46 PM, Anne Hollingshead wrote:
 When I follow this link i get


 Surname Filing, MRIN’s  Photo Collections: MRIN Folders, Part 3
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/mrin-filing/surname-filing-mrin-photo-collections/
 (April, 2012)
 Genealogy Filing: MRIN Folders, Part 2
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/mrin-filing/genealogy-filing-mrin-folders-part-2/
 (April, 2012)
 MRIN Filing: MRIN Folders, Part 1
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/mrin-filing/mrin-folders/ (April, 2012)
 MRIN Filing System Update
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/mrin-filing/mrin-filing-system-update/
 (February, 2012)
 MRIN Filing System Backup | Legacy Family Tree
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/backup/mrin-filing/ (August, 2011)
 Yo! MRIN Filers | Another MRIN Filing System Tip
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/mrin-filing/yo-mrin-filers/ (February, 2011)
 MRIN Filing System: Renumbering MRIN’s
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/organize/mrin-filing-again/ (May, 2010)
 Source Detail Text | Legacy Family Tree
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/legacy/source-detail-text/ (October, 2007)
 MRIN Filing System Tip: File ID Assistant
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/mrin-filing/file-id-assistant/ (June, 2007)
 MRIN Filing Revisited: Digital Source Files
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/organize/mrin-filing-revisited/ (June, 2007)
 MRIN Filing System+ for Genealogy
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/organize/mrin-filing-system/ (October, 2006)

 Nothing about event sentences. Could you give me a direct link please.

 Anne



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Re: [LegacyUG] Report Marriage List

[JLB]

What 'data' is included in the Marriage List besides the names and the
MRIN's? That CAN be printed from the Name List.
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On 10/24/2012 7:17 AM, Brian/Support wrote:
 Your approach will only produce a list of people involved in the tagged
 marriages. The data you can include for those people is not the same as
 the data available from the marriage list.

 Brian
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 Millennia Corporation
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 On 23/10/2012 22:06, JLB wrote:
 I think you could do it by tagging the marriages you want, then doing a
 Detailed Search for Marriage/Marriage Tag #/Equal To/Tagged. The Search
 Results will show up in the Name List and you can Print from there.
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 On 10/23/2012 6:07 PM, kjfick...@aol.com wrote:
 hi

 Is there anyway I can print only tagged items from the marriage list?

 Phyllis



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Re: [LegacyUG] Report Marriage List

[JLB]

I think you could do it by tagging the marriages you want, then doing a
Detailed Search for Marriage/Marriage Tag #/Equal To/Tagged. The Search
Results will show up in the Name List and you can Print from there.
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On 10/23/2012 6:07 PM, kjfick...@aol.com wrote:
 hi

 Is there anyway I can print only tagged items from the marriage list?

 Phyllis


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Re: [LegacyUG] Search for individuals with notes

[JLB]

Unless I'm looking for something specific, I search for Contains 'e' and
I think that would likely cover everything.
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On 10/21/2012 11:23 AM, Nut wrote:
 Hi,

 How does one search for individuals with 'General Notes' ?
 I tried Individual  General Notes  Wildcard  *





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Re: [LegacyUG] .pdf for everyone in my family file?

[JLB]

When you get ready to print, choose Printer and then your own PDF
printer assuming you have one installed. Legacy's PDF printer has a
limit which you've already found out.

If you need a PDF printer try PDF Creator or look for reviews. There's
quite a few but some have nag screens. I've used PDF Creator for years
and it's great. http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/

After you install it, it will always be an option listed in your list of
available Printers everywhere on your computer.
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On 10/18/2012 8:15 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
 I don't really care /which/ report.  I just want everybody in it -- all
 the events -- everything so that I can search my whole database easily
 for whatever.  I tried ( just one time) doing Family Group Records for
 everybody (because in Record selection I could choose all individuals
 and spouses) but after the report got to well over a thousand pages
 Legacy quit working -- so if you have some suggestions  on how I can
 keep that from re-occurring that would be good!!

 Thanks!

 Pat

 On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Brian/Support
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 Oops. I should have looked at the Bowtie Chart. It does not go both
 directions it shows ancestors only but for the person's father on one
 side and their mother on the other.

 Brian
 Customer Support
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 --


 On 18/10/2012 22:27, Brian/Support wrote:
   We need to know what report you want to use.
  
   snipThe only
   report which goes both directions for the same person is the Bowtie
   Chart created by Legacy Charting.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Spaces in file names Was - What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

[JLB]

Ron, I wasn't saying that you're wrong about what you said, just that
it's not necessary to go changing all the file names on your computer
unless you plan on uploading your files to the web. The few that I do
upload I change prior. It's a different batch of work.

Of course, if you're linking your files to Legacy (which I don't) and
creating web pages from Legacy (which I don't) then, yes, you might as
well get it right the first time. Hyphenate and ampersand away there.
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On 10/15/2012 1:36 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Bob,

 You are correct, that using the ampersand on its own is a risk, and your post 
 also shows why, it has other uses or meanings in html - normally no problem, 
 but potentially a problem.

 To deal with other points made. Lee, you may have no problems with your 
 server, and the problems are more to do with servers than PCs, but that does 
 not mean it is true fir all. For some ron ferguson.jpg will be fine, but 
 others can change it to ron%20ferguson.jpg which is not the same and the 
 image will not be visible. As always, safety first.

 JLB I really am not paranoid about this, but I have seen too many instances 
 where problems have been caused. I am aware that there is software available 
 which will rewrite file names substituting hyphens or underscores, but I feel 
 that it is better to get it right in the first place. In a way it is like 
 Windows reading upper and lower case the same whereas servers do not, so it 
 is best not to mix the cases unless one adopts a system eg. 
 RonFerguson.jpg. This is why I do mention it whenever I spot potential 
 future problems.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 Robert Austenrgaus...@telus.net  wrote:

 Hi Ron,

 Thanks for this.  John also showed everything connected with underscores. I 
 appreciate the comment regarding creating a website.  Time to go back and 
 fill in the spaces.  John also recommended only the hyphen, underscore and 
 'ampersand'.  I am very inexperienced in HTML coding but I thought I had 
 heard of problems with the ampersand, particularly in a url unless it's 
 written as 'amp'.  I suppose the phot file name could show up in a url.

 Your thoughts?

 Bob



 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:16 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of 
 compi ler

 Bob,

 Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider 
 creating a website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an 
 underscore or hyphen instead, otherwise they may well not work.

 In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the 
 above two.
 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

[JLB]

If this is all too complicated, just mark the album pages with numbers
in pencil and then create a list of descriptions in a text document.
Trust me, anything is better than nothing. Scanning for long-term
preservation would also be good if you can get it done.
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On 10/15/2012 2:10 PM, JLB wrote:
 I would use a Flip-Pal as a last resort/emergency measure only. It's
 good for traveling when you need a mobile scanner and it's better than
 nothing in that case. I believe it only saves images as JPG's which is a
 compressed format and not suitable for editing.

 If the photos are in your album at home, as you say they are, you have
 total control. I would scan them on a flatbed scanner using at least
 300dpi, *at least* twice the size of the originals (in case you ever
 want to reprint them) and save them as uncompressed TIFF's.

 All photo information can be added using good IPTC software. I add the
 names as keywords, and the order of the people in the photo, L-R, in the
 caption. My recommendations for that are GeoSetter or XnView (both free)
 or Photo Mechanic.
 ---
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 On 10/15/2012 11:26 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
 In a recent Legacy webinar about the FlipPal mobile scanner they showed
 how you could write on a transparent sheet of glass (?) and lay that
 over the photo you are scanning, then scan it once with the writing and
 once without. That allows you to write on the photo with circles 
 arrows, etc., without damaging the photo. I thought that was pretty
 cool. I think they sell you the glass/plexiglass on their website...?
 --Paula


 
 *From:* Paulette rivo...@gmail.com
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Sat, October 13, 2012 11:28:29 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death
 of compi ler

 I am interested also. I have several albums of old photos of ancestors
 and others. I am the only one left who can identify the people on the
 photographs and it is becoming urgent for me to do so. I am reticent
 marking the original photos. What is your recommendation? Thank you.

 Paulette,
 Camarillo, Ca



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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

[JLB]

 anniversary of our first male immigrant's 
 arrival in the colonies, and we exp
ect to have the book ready just 4 years after being elected.  Hopefully we can 
have much more of the articles and things scanned and in the next book in 2020. 
 Forty years is way to long for people to wait for a book with the last 15 
years having someone in charge who doesn't even own a computer.

 Our Family Reunion is actually a genealogy fest.  LOTS of very distant 
 relatives have been working on research so we know no dearth of interest.  
 We even have a few minutes of storytelling by the Family Historian as well 
 as a report of the deaths/births/marriages since the prior year.  With so 
 many sad stories, I thought it would be great to tell one fairly good story. 
  We will have to check out what was given away, but I have plenty to keep me 
 busy for a long time even without whatever she gave away.

 God bless,
 Ellen

 On Oct 14, 2012, at 1:47 AM, hwedhlor wrote:

 Hi Ron,

 That's a fair comment, and one with which I completely agree.  I
 should have ask those requesting copies to contact me offlist, and
 would have done so if I expected such a large response.  My apologies
 to the list.

 Anyone requesting copies of my file naming documents please contact me
 offlist.

 Thanks,

 John Zimmerman
 Mesa, AZ

 On 10/13/2012 10:18 AM, Ron Bernier wrote:
 Could all of these Me too posts please be taken off line.  Rather
 than clog up the list with non Legacy me too posts, it would be
 much more considerate of other Legacy subscribers if folks were to
 contact the original poster via his personal email address.

 Ron Bernier
 Woonsocket, RI

 On Saturday, October 13, 2012, Lee Bruch wrote:

 I too would be interested in receiving copies.
 Thanks
 Lee Bruch

 -Original Message-
 From: hwedhlor [mailto:hwedh...@cox.netjavascript:;]
 Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:56 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical
 files after death of compi ler

 JLB and Robert Austen,

 Thank you both for your kind remarks.

 On the further subject of archiving images in Legacy
 and elsewhere,

 snip

 If anyone is interested I will be happy to send them a
 five-page rationale and a one-page quick reference
 sheet, both in MS Word format, or to publish that
 rationale here if there is sufficient demand.

 John Zimmerman
 Mesa, AZ











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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

[JLB]

You win the prize for writing the most depressing post I've ever read.

I don't agree with the paper thing either. First of all, mine is way too
much to print and it's no guarantee anyway.

Share while you can. If your close relatives are boobs at least it's all
somewhere else and has a fighting chance.
---
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JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 10/11/2012 2:23 PM, gcr...@juno.com wrote:
 Lets be honest and face it. No matter what format our life's work is in
 it becomes questionable as to whether it will survive us, especially if
 what we do is not appreciated in anyway by our survivors.

 I personally knew of a situation where a friend and fellow genealogist
 who helped me get started had all his research PAPERS (including
 correspondence spanning several years) PITCHED when his 'loving
 children' thought he was on his death bed. 40 years of meticulous
 gladiolus hybridizing records suffered the same fate. He survived his
 impending death scare only to learn when he was well enough to come
 home that his children had rented a dumpster, parked it at the front
 door and got rid of all his crap. He later told me he didn't have one
 scrap of paper left to show for 40+ years of hybridizing OR genealogy. I
 would have LOVED to have, at least been offered, the chance to pick
 through what he had since we had a common ancestor.

 In another situation the widow of the researcher was ready to pitch her
 husband's research when an in law found out about it and salvaged it
 before she did. In neither case was anyone contacted to see if you want
 any of this 'stuff'  (fill in the blank, Dad, Mom, Aunt Alice,
 Grandpa, Grandma etc) accumulated?

 Safe guard as best we can and hope for it to survive us and wind up in
 some one (or some institution) loving hands...!

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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

[JLB]

At the risk of being 'off-topic' once again, THIS should be distributed
everywhere. Good job.
---
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On 10/12/2012 3:55 PM, hwedhlor wrote:
 I had a friend who spent a lifetime researching and writing
 his family history.  He kept a daily journal, entering 1,500
 words each day for over 67 years and taking thousands of
 photographs.  My friend privately published six volumes of
 400+ pages each, 9x12 hardbound and had 100 copies printed
 of each of the six volumes.  A few copies were given to the
 local LDS Family History Centers and to the one in Salt Lake
 City, as well as to local libraries where he lived and where
 he grew up, but most of the libraries to which he offered
 his work declined his offer because of space restrictions.
 At the point when I became involved my friend had 14 more 3
 ring binders full of information and photos which he
 intended to have published in the same format as the
 previous six volumes.  The estimated cost of printing the
 remaining volumes of his work was $80,000.00.  I suggested
 that he consider publishing his work on CD which would
 include the contents of his previous six volumes as well as
 his unpublished work, and that he print only a few paper
 volumes of the new work.  My friend agreed and asked me to
 undertake that task.

 Much of my friend's work had been recorded on hard drives
 and floppy disks, but the two old original IBM PCs in which
 the hard drives were installed no longer ran.  I had to
 install new BIOS chips to get them running.  Then we
 discovered that the programs he had used (word processors
 and genealogical database software) to record and organize
 his data would no longer run either, and the backup copies
 he had made were not readable by current versions of his
 software.  A third, more modern PC also would not run and
 had to be resurrected.  He had two running PCs and both were
 shakey at best.  We bought a new PC, and updated software,
 and over a period of three years I was able to recover the
 electronic versions of all what my friend had so laboriously
 written.

 The completed CD included the previously printed six volumes
 as well as much of the later data and was automated to run
 on any then-current PC under several contemporary browsers
 and on a variety of screen sizes.  All of the text was
 searchable, and the photos were integrated into the text of
 many articles, genealogical histories, journal entries and
 various charts and reports.  The photos were also available
 in an indexed photo gallery. When my friend and his wife
 passed away a few years later not a single one of his
 children wanted the CD.  The remaining books (a few hundred
 copies) were boxed up and hauled away to an unknown fate.

 The one lesson I took from having helped with that project
 is that it pays to disseminate your data as widely as
 possible, and in as many formats as possible, while you are
 living.  Make paper copies.  Publish online.  Make CDs.
 Give away copies of your files to relatives and other
 researchers as you work.  Don't let the unfinished nature
 of your research keep you from distributing what you already
 have.  Better to publish some of your incomplete, or poorly
 sourced research than to let it be lost if you die
 suddenly.  Try not to let possessiveness overcome
 willingness to share.  We all like to be credited with what
 we've discovered, but it's better to disclose information we
 have rather than to risk it being lost forever because we
 fear those receiving it won't mention us when they publish.

 One last thought.  No electronic format is permanent.  They
 all deteriorate, and they will all become obsolete
 eventually.  If you choose to use an eletronic format you
 should also commit to keeping that format up-to-date.  Don't
 stick with an old version of the software you're using
 simply because you like the old version, or because you're
 comfortable using it.  Keep your hardware and software up to
 date!  If not immediately when it's released, at least
 within say a year of that release. Stagnation can mean your
 data will no longer be useable to those who come after you.
 Even paper copies can burn, or be thrown out, so diversify
 and distribute!

 John Zimmerman
 Mesa, AZ



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Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Numerous Individual Reports

[JLB]

Thank-you. I was wondering the same thing.
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On 10/10/2012 11:34 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
 On 10/10/2012 19:04, Chuck Schober wrote:
 I wish to print an Individual Report for numerous individuals.  What is the
 most efficient way to do this?


 See Record Selection on the Individual Report main screen.  Lots of
 options to choose from.



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Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

[JLB]

Having also written User Guides called READ ME files, about a dozen to
cover everything computer related, including Legacy and the ancestors of
course, there's another essential part to this. That's the cover letter
that you actually print and put somewhere easily accessible. (In my
case, in an envelope tacked to my bulletin board and addressed to my
executor.)

All READ ME's and cover letter updated on a regular basis as my
computer/finances/etc. change. If you're counting on someone actually
turning your computer on to see what's in there ... well, they might
not. And if they do, chances are they could use some clear direction.

Or as the Chinese say, One who's all over the map is no less lost than
one without a map.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 10/10/2012 4:54 PM, gcr...@juno.com wrote:
 This is (or should be!) a concern of all of us who spend a 'lifetime'
 researching. Just so happens I've been doing this very thing for my
 family - what to do when the time comes I'm either gone or incapacitated
 so as not to be 'with it'.

 I've prepared a couple of 'user guides A User Guide of (my
 Computer--how to get onto it, what's on it, general organization etc;
 and A User Guide of my Genealogy--how it's organized, what each folder
 contains, etc). Have taken screen shots along with a narrative in a WORD
 document to try and explain at least the basics.

 Even if you donate your work to a society/library, unless they have a
 skilled IT specialists on staff (probably unlikely unless a major
 society/library) that understands computer technology we use they won't
 have a clue as to what they've got NOR how to access the treasure that
 they've inherited. Without some kind of 'guide' for them you might as
 well pitch it - which the family may do anyway!

 If you're interested in more details, please feel free to contact me off
 list.

 Gary

 -- Original Message --
 From: Emily Moore eall...@aol.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of
 compiler
 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:54:30 -0400

 The Allen County Public Library in Fort Wayne is happy to receive
 donations of genealogical records (paper or electronic) regarding
 deceased individuals. Also, local genealogical or historical societies
 may want such records.
 Emily


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 I thought of a question yesterday: If I died tomorrow, who would know
 how to access, navigate, restore my legacy, or other genealogy files?
 I helped a neighbor go through her fathers possessions, I could tell
 that he had done massive amounts of genealogical research and
 organizing, the members of his family had no idea what to do with it.
 Prepare for the day when you will be gone.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search files and your next generation

[JLB]

I've been thinking about it for years. I made a READ ME file with
instructions. Also, I'm using a very simple filing system that anyone
can follow. The real question is: will anyone be interested anyway?
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On 10/9/2012 8:44 PM, Modena1920 wrote:
 I thought of a question yesterday: If I died tomorrow, who would know
 how to access, navigate, restore my legacy, or other genealogy files? I
 helped a neighbor go through her fathers possessions, I could tell that
 he had done massive amounts of genealogical research and organizing, the
 members of his family had no idea what to do with it. Prepare for the
 day when you will be gone.

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Re: [LegacyUG] check all picture locations - am I doing this correctly?

[JLB]

I switched to 'not linking' by making my filing system do more. I made
it into a PowerPoint presentation and, even if the whole thing is not
your cup of tea, you may find something there to get to a different way
of looking at this.

http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/presentations/mrin-filing-system-ppsx/
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On 10/4/2012 7:42 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
 Could be programmed to ask replace links to oldfilename to
 filenameyoujustselected? and Y response fixes those.
 I know... submit a suggestion.

 At least in the future I will rename in picture center first, then only
 have to do citations individually.

 In the meantime, I will ponder what someone else posted: Not linking
 anything into Legacy... or at least linking less.
 --Paula


 
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 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Wed, October 3, 2012 9:41:58 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] check all picture locations - am I doing this
 correctly?

 Legacy can't read your mind and doesn't know how you rename a file.
 The lilnks to the files are stored in the database using the file name
 and path as it is at the time you link it.

 Legacy can, however, find pictures that have been *moved*.

 If you change the file name through Picture Center, then the name is
 changed in the database, but not if you change it outside of Legacy.

 Sadly, you'll have to manually relink each file that has had a name change.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
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 Legacy Family Tree

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Re: [LegacyUG] check all picture locations - am I doing this correctly?

[JLB]

I think what you're doing is how it works. Unfortunately. That's why I
don't link files. To Legacy or to anything. If I'm looking for a file
I'd rather find it in its original location, whatever that is and
whenever. Thankfully Windows can be searched. Linking files is a
thankless task and when you've had enough you'll stop.
---
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On 10/2/2012 8:46 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
 I have changed the names on a few files for one particular family, but
 some of them have been linked in several times, so this is getting tedious.

 I went in Customize  Locations  Test All Multimedia Paths and am
 testing locations... I chose not to create a list; rather, to have each
 one pop up to be corrected.
 I am choosing to Browse for the File myself, but the error pops up for
 EVERY file not found... *even after I have selected the renamed file.

 Isn't the system supposed to know that this is the new name and
 correct all paths to it? Am I doing this incorrectly?

 Or does that only work if you renamed the folder?

 It's been so long since I've done this or seen a discussion on here that
 I have forgotten.

 Thanks,
 --Paula in Texas
 Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton
 Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis
 Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind
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Re: [LegacyUG] RIN numbers

[JLB]

You can use Renumber RIN's under Tools to renumber RIN's one at a time.
So, if the only one she cares about is herself, that would be easy.
Otherwise, it's one at a time all the way through.
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On 9/30/2012 5:44 PM, Pat Roberts wrote:
 Hi!  This is my first post.

 One of our Legacy students wants to import her PAF file into Legacy.  In
 Legacy, she wants to change all her RIN numbersto have herself become
 #1.  In PAF she is number #2255.  Is there any way for her to do this?

 Thanks..
 Pat Roberts, Aiken, SC

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Re: [LegacyUG] Where is the best place to post obituary in Legacy?

[JLB]

I put my obits under Death Notes next to the Death date on the
Individual's Information screen. I don't exactly understand, though, why
Legacy outputs information starting with the Death information. Life
doesn't usually occur in that order.
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On 9/25/2012 8:31 PM, CE WOOD wrote:
 You can use the Obituary Event and put the whole obituary in the notes
 section of the event.

 Problem with that is, it may take up lots of space in your report if you
 include Events. You can use the Obituary Event without putting it in the
 notes section of the event and then include the whole obituary in the
 source detail text for that event. Your choice.


 CE

 
 From: dasm...@new.rr.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Where is the best place to post obituary in Legacy?
 - Also comments regarding locations in Census Reports
 Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 18:42:58 -0500

 _OBITUARY AND SIMILAR TEXT_

 I am wondering where users find is the best place to post obituaries and
 similar text information in an individuals record in Legacy.

 I have been putting it in the source citation – detail – text area. But,
 I am beginning to think this may not be the best place when it comes to
 printing reports. I’m not sure I like it printing in the source part of
 the report, would probably prefer it in the narrative.

 Any Comments?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Displaingy URL window

[JLB]

I'm trying to picture this and it sounds like it doesn't have anything
to do with Legacy. Your browser won't go to another URL? Can you see
your browser? Are you working with one monitor or two?
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On 9/23/2012 11:17 AM, Jane Colquhoun wrote:
 Hi All

 I'mhoping someone more knowledgable about Legacy can help.

 I've been reading Geoff's book - the Official Unofficial Guide to Legacy
 - and he suggests using the split screen option to browse a genealogy
 website and then cut and paste into Legacy in the other window. I can
 get the Legacy website in the window, but I can't get the URL address
 section to show up so I can put in another website to look at.

 Any idea how I can do this - I've searched the Help File and Users
 Manual and haven't found anything obvious.

 Many thanks.

 Jane
 Newbie Legacy user

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Re: [LegacyUG] Displaying URL window

[JLB]

Not really but maybe.

Somehow you've got Legacy opened across half of your browser so you
can't see the address bar? Maybe we're having a language problem.

Ok let's back up the train. I personally would not split a screen using
Legacy on both halves for this purpose. What I would do is drag the
handles on the edge of my Legacy database so it takes up half the
monitor. Then I would open my browser and do the same thing for the
other half. If you're using W7 you don't have to drag the handles. Just
drag one screen left and drop it and the other screen right and drop it
and they'll automatically split the monitor in half.

I did not even know there was an address bar on the Legacy home page.
First of all, they use Internet Explorer that I absolutely can't stand
so it's not even an option even if I did know it was there.

Anyway, try that. You can certainly split a wide screen monitor to fit
two screens. Aha! Perhaps the problem is your browser becomes too narrow
to see the address bar??

OK, I'm on my knees. Please tell me that I'm even remotely close to what
you're talking about.
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On 9/23/2012 12:33 PM, Jane Colquhoun wrote:
 Hi

 I'm only working on one monitor. In the article Geoff stated that you
 could change the Legacy view to 'split view' and then use one of the
 window splits to access the internet. I can get the Legacy home page in
 this but can't navigate away from that as I don't have a URL space to
 input the web address ie at the top of the webpage.

 Does that make the issue any clearer?

 Thanks.

 Jane

 
 *From:* JLB j...@jgen.ws
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, 23 September 2012, 20:17
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Displaingy URL window

 I'm trying to picture this and it sounds like it doesn't have anything
 to do with Legacy. Your browser won't go to another URL? Can you see
 your browser? Are you working with one monitor or two?
 ---
 JL Beeken
 JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

 On 9/23/2012 11:17 AM, Jane Colquhoun wrote:
   Hi All
  
   I'mhoping someone more knowledgable about Legacy can help.
  
   I've been reading Geoff's book - the Official Unofficial Guide to Legacy
   - and he suggests using the split screen option to browse a genealogy
   website and then cut and paste into Legacy in the other window. I can
   get the Legacy website in the window, but I can't get the URL address
   section to show up so I can put in another website to look at.
  
   Any idea how I can do this - I've searched the Help File and Users
   Manual and haven't found anything obvious.
  
   Many thanks.
  
   Jane
   Newbie Legacy user
  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people

[JLB]

Use the Copy and Paste buttons on the Event screen. They're under the
Help button on the right. You don't have to put your cursor anywhere.
Enter the information for one person as you want it. Then click the Copy
button. Go to the each of the other people one at a time, open to that
same window and click the Paste button.
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On 9/16/2012 12:23 PM, Karen and Jim wrote:
 Hi Listers,

 Using ver 5 Deluxe.

 I would like to be able to auto-fill Events/Facts.
 When doing census for a large families,
 10 - 15 children.
 I would like NOT to have to retype the
 same thing again and again.
 I would like to automated this procedure.

 I would prefer to simply put my cursor in
 the Event box and paste and all four boxes
 would be filled.
 I would like to paste the following 4 lines as a single action:
 cen
 Living with parents.
 1930
 Helt

 I copied the above into Notepad,
 separating with tabs,
 but everything stayed in the first box, Event.

 Can this be done?

 JimS



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Re: [LegacyUG] Paper filing question (by family)

[JLB]

Although I file by MRIN, the question is still applicable.

I put all records for a person in their MRIN folder (and under their
MRIN in paper filing) regardless of whether it's before a marriage or
after. Except, for instance, where they're in a census record as a
child. All census records are filed under head of household.

I could just as well do it the other way except then I'd have to wonder
which record belongs after marriage and which before and that gives me
one more thing to trip over on my way to finding it.

I don't think it really matters. It's your filing system and as long as
you're consistent with your 'rules', then you know where to find things.

Documents for unmarried children are filed with their parents.

Because I digitize everything I rarely reference my paper files. I also
annotate all records with keywords (people's names), locations, etc., so
I can pull all records for anyone from everywhere through a simple
search. Consequently it wouldn't matter if I threw all files in one huge
folder or anywhere at random. Except for other reasons I have for not
doing it that way.

Video: MRIN Filing System
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On 9/11/2012 11:08 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
 I file my papers by family (I believe it's the system by Mills?), and
 have a question for those of you who do likewise. I don't wish to change
 how I file the papers, because I do my research by family.

 For a daughter, I have been filing all her papers for events prior to
 her marriage (e.g., her birth record) in her parent's folder. Then I
 file all her papers for events after her marriage (including after her
 husband's death, where applicable) in her marriage folder. I haven't run
 into a case in my lineage where the widow has remarried, but I would put
 her papers, beginning with that marriage record, in a new folder for the
 second marriage.

 For a son, I had not been doing likewise... or at least I was not
 consistent. Most times, I put all his papers (including birth record) in
 his marriage folder, but discovered I had not done so on my current
 research project; I had filed the birth register in his parents' folder.

 Further, for most collateral lines (which up until recently I have not
 been researching), I leave all the other children's papers in the
 parents' folder.

 So, my question is this: Where do YOU file the papers for life events
 prior to marriage? In the parents' folder? Or in their own folder?
 Follow-up questions: Do you treat sons and daughters the same? Do you
 treat grown, unmarried children the same?

 Thanks in advance for your thoughtful replies,
 --Paula in Texas
 Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton
 Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis
 Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind
 Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner
 Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan
 Weller Williams

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