Re: n900 and laptop with Debian: what application to use on laptop for syncing?
If you need a service of some sort to help broker the synchronization, you may want to check out memotoo.com. They pretty much work with everything, but on the N900, syncevolution is the way to go. They even provide instructions for setting it up. K On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Philipp Haselwarter philipp.haselwar...@gmx.de wrote: If running your own server is an option for you, you can quite easily set up your own CalDAV/CardDAV server. I can recommend davical on debian, using the sync-evolution GUI on the n900 (documentation for the command line tools seems to be dated). Owncloud might be of interest as well as it integrates a CalDAV service and offers a nice web-interface. OFC you want to encrypt your connections using SSL. There are plenty of desktop clients available (kontact, evolution, thunderbird through plugins)…icedove should be work I'd guess. NB: you can always run a local server just on your laptop. -- Philipp Haselwarter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: PR1.3 coming!
Just a quik FYI: OTA worked perfectly for me. Based on an email from this list, I removed gltron prior to update. I performed a backup but didn't need it, everything appears like before the upgrade. Mail does seem to be quicker now per the fixed bug, which is the biggest win for me. K -- Mobile on my Nokia N900 - Original message - Oliver Beck wrote: The only thing what makes me a little bit perplex is the fact that the system-info-tool still displays Version 10.2010.19-1. But i couldn't care less ... In my case it changed after rebooting the device. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Opera 10 alpha for maemo
Just installed it on my N900 and opened up a couple websites. the onscreen keyboard works well enough on that, and I imagine it is better on the larger N800 screen. I am looking forward to giving this a try on my older device when I get home. K On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 05:02:55PM -0700, Gary wrote: I'm curious to see if their on-screen keyboard is useful or not... http://labs.opera.com/news/2010/05/11 installer here: http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?sub=id=32891 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Gtalk call doesnt work on 3/3.5 G Network
Nimbuzz doesn't exist for Maemo yet, only Symbian. I was just noting when Skype works and when it doesn't for my particular network. I don't know how you could proxy the service somehow. I don't know how Nimbuzz achieves its particular connection to the Skype network. K On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:09:43AM +0400, khalid khan wrote: Ok I see. But Kevin can you help me to download the Nimbuzz application for N900 because i couldn't find it in Ovi nor in Maemo web pages, generally in Ovi the Nimbuzz version is not compatible to N900. Or should i use proxy server for gtalk to be used in 3G network. Thanks Khalid On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: It may be your carrier. I notice that on ATT, Skype will not connect, but it will when I am using wifi. What is weird is that using the exact same SIM in a Symbian phone, I can connect to Skype using Nimbuzz, although that is probably proxied through their own servers. K On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 04:38:46AM +, khalid.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do anyone facing problem using N900 to make calls via gtalk on 3G or 3.5G network .I am using Data Package when i call the online gtalk contact it connects but no voice from both side. Amazingly the gtalk call works on Wi-fi connections perfectly.I have set the network setting mode as Any Connections tick marked Wi-fi connection when available is this causing any problem to call gtalk from 3G. Note: In UAE there is restrictions to use skype other third party call services but still gtalk works on PC or N900 in Wi-fi. Thanks Khalid -- Sent from my mobile computer using Nokia Messaging ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkvVK8AACgkQE+4TUALb7FEMUQCfS9+wvaOJCTWZLRfjXUwyC98Y a/8AoJBsrLOxnb6PDFbUZ9w9b3NL1P3y =2aC2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Gtalk call doesnt work on 3/3.5 G Network
It may be your carrier. I notice that on ATT, Skype will not connect, but it will when I am using wifi. What is weird is that using the exact same SIM in a Symbian phone, I can connect to Skype using Nimbuzz, although that is probably proxied through their own servers. K On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 04:38:46AM +, khalid.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do anyone facing problem using N900 to make calls via gtalk on 3G or 3.5G network .I am using Data Package when i call the online gtalk contact it connects but no voice from both side. Amazingly the gtalk call works on Wi-fi connections perfectly.I have set the network setting mode as Any Connections tick marked Wi-fi connection when available is this causing any problem to call gtalk from 3G. Note: In UAE there is restrictions to use skype other third party call services but still gtalk works on PC or N900 in Wi-fi. Thanks Khalid -- Sent from my mobile computer using Nokia Messaging ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 as an internet device
for 1) you can use Joikuspot On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Kevin Kempter ke...@kevinkempterllc.comwrote: Hi all; 2 questions: 1) I've recently seen that there's an app for the palm pre that turns it into w wireless access point. Is there a similar app for the N900 2) Other than a wireless access point app, how do I use my N900 to connect my Linux laptop to the internet? Thanks in advance ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Indications with maps.
I think it's pretty safe to assume that at some point in the near future, the Ovi Maps for Maemo will be free. I suspect the Maps team is very busy updating all the Symbian clients and ironing out the bugs in the recent releases. I was hoping for some Maemo-related announcement during MWC, but so far, nothing... On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+ma...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bma...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/2/19 Xabier Rodriguez Calvar xrcal...@igalia.com: Now that Nokia announced that navigation with indications will be free forever, I'd like to know if we'll be able to do that with the N900. Maybe I missed the info somewhere else, but if somebody can tell me something or point me to the info, I'd be pleased. Not that I know of. We can wait and hope but I don't think anything has been promised with regard to N900. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Indications with maps.
That's why I'm hoping for an update to the app in general. It's the main blocking factor for me using an N900. The Symbian version was always free, but the voice navigation was subscription-based. That became free about a month ago. K On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+ma...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bma...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: I think it's pretty safe to assume that at some point in the near future, the Ovi Maps for Maemo will be free. I suspect the Maps team is very busy updating all the Symbian clients and ironing out the bugs in the recent releases. It's always been free as far as I can tell (it never asked me for payment), but it just doesn't do the things the Symbian version does. That's the whole problem since the beginning. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Conversation Facebook plugin
It should support XMPP out of the box, looks like the Nokia Blog has instructions already: http://thenokiablog.com/2010/02/10/how-to-add-facebook-chat-nokia-n900-out-of-the-box/ K On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Kahlil Johnson jzare...@gmail.com wrote: Facebook recently change to XMPP protocol and this might affect the Facebook addition to Conversations that used to rely on JSON. Would love to see an update soon here since well since not having the propper protocol might make a lot of bugs on the logging since msgs are marked as created by the replier. -- Kahlil Johnson Ya tengo GMAIL!! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Hands-on: Mozilla's pocket-sized Firefox mobile for Maemo
An interesting Reviewer's Guide for the Nokia N900 http://to./i9h side note: really need to look at dumping Xmarks in favor of Weave sync enjoy, K On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Gary g...@eyetraxx.net wrote: in case you haven't already seen this... http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2010/02/hands-on-mozillas-pocket-sized-firefox-mobile-for-maemo.ars ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Facebook app is just a commercial after update
Actually, yes. I'm pretty sure both Gizmo and Skype used this technique in Diablo. K On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Gary g...@eyetraxx.net wrote: On 1/12/10, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: Anyway this trick was used also on the N8x0 tablets for Skype. Was it also used for Gizmo? I can't recall... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Google services
That's good to know. I do not (yet) have an N900, so this is something I have been curious about. I mean, I don't want a Google Maps app for my computer, so I wasn't sure if the fennec browser would be up to the task. From what you say, it isn't, which is sad, but I guess to be expected. thanks K On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2010/1/7 Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com: This might be naive, but since the N900 runs a fully capable mozilla browser (i.e. fennec) why does it need a suite of Google applications? Now, if it had the enhanced Google Maps app with voice navigation, that would be something. onestly... we talk a lot about usability and do you want to compare accessing Gmail from MicroB or accessing it from a native client? Have you tried using Google Maps from N900 browser?! It's more usable from Google Maps for Nokia N73 than from N900 browser No micro-browser is enough for Google applications, neither N900 one nor iPhone nor Android one there's need for a native application to access certain services. Regards, -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Google services
This might be naive, but since the N900 runs a fully capable mozilla browser (i.e. fennec) why does it need a suite of Google applications? Now, if it had the enhanced Google Maps app with voice navigation, that would be something. K On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2010/1/7 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com: Are you sure? http://www.google.com/phone/ come on Claudio... the interesting thing remains Android and its good integration with their services, not that piece of hardware :P -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: New N900 user - Few ideas...
lol, I understand that and know it's basically 1.0 (or 0.8 beta or something) for the maemo version. I guess my point is I've come to rely upon it in my handheld and while I can take some instability, I need it to get me where I'm going most of the time. I used the beta on Symbian and went through some growing pains, but it's working well now. I hope the Ovi Maps team can get the Maemo version working well soon. I love the location syncing and choosing different voices. K On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com wrote: Please keep in mind that you just can't take the symbian version and install it to maemo. If I remember correctly there was no ovi maps for maemo 6 months ago. And N95 had maps 1.x, N95 was released 2007... Ossipena 2009/12/11 Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com I'm sad Ovi maps is so lacking on the N900 because it works great on Symbian. That's kind of a dealbreaker for me as far as the N900 being a usable, main device. hopefully they're working on it heavily, or hopefully we'll see a google maps client soon. actually, how well does Google maps work on the browser? does it know location? thanks, K On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.comwrote: Hi, On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 23:11 -0500, Craig Woodward wrote: There are bug trackers for garage projects, but there's none for the core (haldon?) and it's shipped apps that I could find. See bugs.maemo.org (and feel welcome to search for existing tickets first). Needing a network on to get Ovi to start up (especially after pre-loading maps) makes it almost useless. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5337 And while talking about Ovi, I'm disappointed in how lacking it is. It's actually Ovi Maps. Ovi has several meanings in the Nokia world... No turn by turn, no spoken instructions (despite me downloading maps and voice files), no ability to save points or use saved points as route-to addresses. Feel free to file/check for/vote for enhancement ideas in Brainstorm at http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/ . andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 battery duration
Any smartphone with a fair amount use is going to require charging everyday. If I'm really working it, I can kill mine in a couple hours. I have a charger in my car, at my desk at work and at home, so it's never that much of an issue. On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:03 PM, John B. Holmblad jholmb...@hotmail.comwrote: All, for what it is worth. battery charge duration is appearing as an issue with the Motorola Droid as well. I have started using a Droid and I notice that I need to charge it every night, and, if I fail to do that, then the next day it runs low on battery charge. Here is the url to some advice posted on the Verizon Wireless www site concerning battery duration related issues: http://search.vzw.com/?do=viewdocid=27662 Of course the Verizon Wireless Droid uses EVDO for Internet access which may be more or less power efficient than HSDPA as implemented on the N900, I am not sure. One think I like about the Droid is that there is a way for the user to be informed of WHAT is consuming the power on the device in each of 9 categories including Display Voice Calls Phone Idle Wi-Fi Cell Standby Browser Android System Bluetooth Android OS Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Alberto Garcia wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:48:27AM +0200, Andrea Grandi wrote: after some days using the N900 (with already lot of charge/discharge cicles) I'd like to compare my battery duration with other people. During the first days I used the N900 a lot, including browsing the web, instant messaging, e-mail, etc. The battery didn't last much more than a day, so I had to recharge it everyday at night. But then I wanted to compare its battery life with that of my old phone, so I started using it in a more conservative way: phone calls, text messages, calendar, alarm clock and occasionally as a media player. I also used the camera to take some pictures here and there and I connected to the Internet a few times to read my e-mail or check a couple of websites, but only for a 2-3 minutes each time. I charged the N900 on Wednesday night, and it's almost exhausted now, so it lasted for ~4 days, which is quite good, I think, to get an idea. Berto ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: swollen battery
This seems appropriate for the conversation http://xkcd.com/651/ On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Martin Grimme martin.gri...@gmail.comwrote: Get rid of the swollen batteries as soon as possible and do not try to charge them! They may explode or burn! Martin 2009/11/5, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com: Here you can get genuine Nokia batteries for a fraction of the price you'll find anywhere else: http://www.cellphoneshop.net/bp5l.html Mark On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:45 AM, bill keiser b...@sharpstick.org wrote: i recently pulled my N-800 out of the drawer to set it up as a GPS(my car unit got stolen!) and saw that the battery drawer was not flush. when i popped it open, i found that the battery had swollen up to about 1.5 it's normal size, exposing the silver skin of the cell inside. it didn't rupture, but the battery door now seems to be permanently warped. two of my other spares are also slightly swollen. the bad one is a nokia OEM one. no major damage done. i plan to try to charge it back up and see if it still works and buy a couple new batteries. bill keiser ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Google Maps Navigation takes a mobile turn
I find Ovi Maps on S60 to be a great program and it's a must-have for me. Like I posted earlier, I read somewhere that the Maemo version is not ready yet. I suspect it is a big part of why the N900 was delayed, though I have no direct knowledge of that. K On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently many think that Ovi Maps is just as bad as the tablet version... http://mer-l-in.blogspot.com/2009/10/ovi-maps-really-is-this-best-we-can-do.html On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: Ovi Maps uses Navteq maps. The engine is different from the mapping application on the N8x0 series tablets. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: That really works? I've been rocking mobile navigation for a couple years with Ovi Maps (formerly Nokia Maps), and more recently waze. The first is excellent, the latter very promising. I understand that Ovi Maps is not quite ready for primetime on the N900. Maybe one of the reasons they postponed the launch? K The Wayfinder Map app that came on the N8x0 is excruciatingly painful to use for actual navigation. The map data (at least in my area of the USA) is extremely out of date, and the POI database is severely lacking. You can't load the whole country at once, only the western or eastern half, and if you're traveling across the dividing line it couldn't be any less user-friendly. You can't have more than one map active at a time, so even though you can add maps at will, navigating between any two of them is impossible. Trying to enter a destination is an exercise in futility. If you manually pan the map and place a favorite and use that for your destination the directions are pretty good and the voice prompts are excellent, but there are so many obstacles to getting to that point that the app is pretty much useless for anything but showing you where you currently are. Plus, the app as shipped is crippled to only show your current location - if you want navigation you have to pay as much as a whole standalone navigation device, but you don't get the stability or any of the other strengths of the standalone devices. All of the other navigation apps for the tablets are works in progress and none of them natively do routing. Navit claims to, but if it does they've certainly hidden that functionality well. RoadMap does rudimentary routing, but you have to create the route manually. If you can't do routing, then you can't do navigation... Neither Ovi nor waze is available for the tablets, and if Ovi is the phone version of the tablet Map app that it appears to be, I'm less than impressed. You do have to pay extra to get navigation and it more than likely uses the same map data. Waze does indeed seem very promising, but again they are duplicating much of what OpenStreetMap has been working on for years, and everybody would benefit much more if they would integrate their technology with OSM instead of striking out on their own. OSM already has a huge amount of map data, but the user interface is a PITA and they would greatly benefit from an app exactly like waze. I don't own a smartphone, but Android 2.0 may be what changes my mind on the matter. Even if I could afford an N900 I wouldn't risk it at this point. Maybe if they are still being produced and supported in 2 or 3 years I'll consider it. My mobile mapping experience thus far has been with PDA, Tablet and Laptop map/navigation software, and I have yet to find an application - even the expensive ones - for any of those that is in the same league as even the worst standalone GPSr. The usability of even my piece of junk TomTom is light years beyond anything I've tried that wasn't a dedicated unit. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Google Maps Navigation takes a mobile turn
That really works? I've been rocking mobile navigation for a couple years with Ovi Maps (formerly Nokia Maps), and more recently waze. The first is excellent, the latter very promising. I understand that Ovi Maps is not quite ready for primetime on the N900. Maybe one of the reasons they postponed the launch? K On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Mark Haury wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-10384544-265.html?tag=nl.e703 Finally, a navigation solution for handhelds that really works. As soon as T-Mobile comes out with an Android 2.0 phone that I like, it's sayonara to the piece of crap TomTom I bought a couple of months ago (I'm on the third unit with a defective battery and am not going to bother sending this one in - I'll replace the battery myself - but that's just scratching the surface of all the horrible design problems. I incorrectly assumed that TomTom had been around long enough to figure out how to make a gpsr, but I should have stuck with Garmin) as well as my Nokia tablet that never really did anything well and is now dying an ugly death due to corrupt and probably failing internal flash memory. Maybe this will force the standalone gps manufacturers to bring the map update prices down to something approaching reasonable. Or even run them all out of business, which they so richly deserve after all these years of highway robbery. 95% of the map data they get for free from governments and other free and public sources, at least 4% of it is corrections from their own consumers who have paid dearly for maps, and _maybe_ 1% of it is obtained in-house. And since at least 95% of any given map update is identical to the old map, it's absurd to assert that they have any real financial investment in it. It's a racket very like the printer manufacturers who sell some printers near and sometimes even below cost, but make such extremely high profit margins on the ink and toner that they could give the printers away for free and it wouldn't make any difference. Can you say at least 6000% profit?!?!? (Except the GPS manufacturers are making a very healthy profit on the hardware as well.) Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Google Maps Navigation takes a mobile turn
Ovi Maps uses Navteq maps. The engine is different from the mapping application on the N8x0 series tablets. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: That really works? I've been rocking mobile navigation for a couple years with Ovi Maps (formerly Nokia Maps), and more recently waze. The first is excellent, the latter very promising. I understand that Ovi Maps is not quite ready for primetime on the N900. Maybe one of the reasons they postponed the launch? K The Wayfinder Map app that came on the N8x0 is excruciatingly painful to use for actual navigation. The map data (at least in my area of the USA) is extremely out of date, and the POI database is severely lacking. You can't load the whole country at once, only the western or eastern half, and if you're traveling across the dividing line it couldn't be any less user-friendly. You can't have more than one map active at a time, so even though you can add maps at will, navigating between any two of them is impossible. Trying to enter a destination is an exercise in futility. If you manually pan the map and place a favorite and use that for your destination the directions are pretty good and the voice prompts are excellent, but there are so many obstacles to getting to that point that the app is pretty much useless for anything but showing you where you currently are. Plus, the app as shipped is crippled to only show your current location - if you want navigation you have to pay as much as a whole standalone navigation device, but you don't get the stability or any of the other strengths of the standalone devices. All of the other navigation apps for the tablets are works in progress and none of them natively do routing. Navit claims to, but if it does they've certainly hidden that functionality well. RoadMap does rudimentary routing, but you have to create the route manually. If you can't do routing, then you can't do navigation... Neither Ovi nor waze is available for the tablets, and if Ovi is the phone version of the tablet Map app that it appears to be, I'm less than impressed. You do have to pay extra to get navigation and it more than likely uses the same map data. Waze does indeed seem very promising, but again they are duplicating much of what OpenStreetMap has been working on for years, and everybody would benefit much more if they would integrate their technology with OSM instead of striking out on their own. OSM already has a huge amount of map data, but the user interface is a PITA and they would greatly benefit from an app exactly like waze. I don't own a smartphone, but Android 2.0 may be what changes my mind on the matter. Even if I could afford an N900 I wouldn't risk it at this point. Maybe if they are still being produced and supported in 2 or 3 years I'll consider it. My mobile mapping experience thus far has been with PDA, Tablet and Laptop map/navigation software, and I have yet to find an application - even the expensive ones - for any of those that is in the same league as even the worst standalone GPSr. The usability of even my piece of junk TomTom is light years beyond anything I've tried that wasn't a dedicated unit. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 Cases
Nintendo DS cases are perfect for the tablet series K On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:22 AM, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote: Is anyone able to recommend a case for the N800? I would like one that protects the unit, perhaps has built in slots for space memory cards, and allows easy use of the unit. Thanks Sean ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900/Maemo 5 review
I don't understand why that's such a big deal. *all* hardware gets tossed aside eventually. Mobile just happens more often than others because the development space is so fast. If you want something that you can keep around for a while, get a big desktop. That probably has the longest shelf-life. Still, the N900 will be more-or-less open and hackable hardware just like the N800, so continued development of other platforms will be based upon hobbyist interest, just like everything else. K On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:35 AM, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote: Andre Klapper wrote: For your interest the Mer project aims to provide a community backport of Fremantle for N8x0 devices. See http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer for more information. andre Is support for the 900 being considered in the development of Mer? I did not see it mentioned anywhere. Nokia will eventually toss it aside as well, like the previous models, and Mer will be the only upgrade path available. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900/Maemo 5 review
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: You could not be more wrong. I'm still using my Handspring Visor Deluxe every day because it does things that *no* other device can do, When is the last time you had a software update for these devices? -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900/Maemo 5 review
Not at all. The complaint I responded to was that Nokia would drop software updates for the N900 as soon as the next hardware came out, which it may or may not do. But it doesn't really matter because the tech moves so fast, older hardware just isn't useful anymore. Maybe the Visor is fine for you, but I no longer live in 1998 and require a bit more functionality from the portable electronics I carry around. This is yet another classic example of Mark taking one comment and then turning it in a different direction to prove his point. Which you didn't because both my phone and my N800 can do everything the handspring visor can do. K On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Kevin T. Neelyktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: You could not be more wrong. I'm still using my Handspring Visor Deluxe every day because it does things that *no* other device can do, When is the last time you had a software update for these devices? Ha ha, that's exactly my point: their software was *finished* - by the manufacturers - so current updates aren't necessary in order for them to still be useful at this late date. You walked right into that one... Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia netbook
There's a lot of talk that Nokia should release a Maemo netbook. Is there a working port of Maemo to Intel-based chips? I only know of the ARM version for the tablets. This was partially mentioned above, but I don't think enough weight has been given to the fact that Nokia has just within the past three months announced major partnerships with both Intel and Microsoft. I don't see it as surprising that a corporate-focused booklet would choose this platform. And remember, the N900 is coming out. The OS/2 comparison is interesting, and it may well be that Maemo stays firmly in the hobbyist arena. But i think we will see Maemo take a bigger role as the laptop and phone continue to merge into a new hybrid device (of which netbooks and internet tablets are early forays into this class of device. K On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Gary g...@eyetraxx.net wrote: Antonio Di Cello wrote: For italian maemo/nokia user I post on my blog the news ad the specifications of new booklet3G The Guardian has more speculation on the hardware specs. http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gmg/op/sXsDARYcytKh_ev4Q2pP53Q/view.m?id=158147tid=120787 My guess is that they're trying to get some attention before Apple releases their touch screen tablet. I have used WIndows 7 extensively on a seven year old notebook which is about on par with most current net books (aside from the larger screen). It is much more usable than Vista was on the same system but I still prefer to boot in to U-lite -- a custom Ubuntu distribution that runs better on less powerful hardware than any of the official Ubuntu spin-offs. Aside from that, there are plenty of other distributions that Nokia could have chosen as there have been several window manager and desktop projects over the years that sufficiently emulate the Windows look and feel to ease users in to the UI. The OS/2 vs Windows comparison is an interesting one. Maybe Nokia will hire David Cutler to help finish freemantle. ;) -Gary ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia netbook
I just recall a good bit of the video's focus was aimed at the corporate commuter types (so-called VPN-less connection to corporate email being first in my mind), so I thought that was a market segment they were going after. I suspect an Ubuntu or other Linux port to this booklet would not be too difficult and that we'll see one soon after launch. Maybe even from some Linux hobbyists from within Nokia in the same way Sony releases unsupported versions for the Playstation. That would satisfy me. K On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Gary g...@eyetraxx.net wrote: Kevin T. Neely wrote: I don't have any qualms with the Atom processor as an energy efficient device but I've never been fond of Intel's business practices (their dealings with the OLPC project are only one of many). Also, I don't really see that Nokia are marketing the Booklet 3G as a corporate platform. q.v. http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/mini-laptop and http://conversations.nokia.com/2009/08/24/nokia-booklet-3g-mini-laptop-unveiled And remember, the N900 is coming out. The OS/2 comparison is interesting, and it may well be that Maemo stays firmly in the hobbyist arena. But i think we will see Maemo take a bigger role as the laptop and phone continue to merge into a new hybrid device (of which netbooks and internet tablets are early forays into this class of device. And the N97 handset has already released based on Symbian OS 9.4 and Series 60 v5 UI running on the ARM 11 proc. I guess I don't see what they have to gain by moving in to the already overcrowded Wintel market. -Gary ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia netbook
It's not touchscreen, but I believe Maemo can be controlled via mouse keyboard. K 2009/8/25 Ove Nordström ove.nordst...@gmail.com I wondering if the Nokia Netbook is a touch screen tablet? If not, is it really possible to run Maemo 5 on it? /ove 2009/8/25 Gary g...@eyetraxx.net: I wonder why they chose Windows over Linux. And suggesting that Sony is weak in the mobile device market is not only unprofessional, it's simply untrue. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/technology/8219005.stm -Gary ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia netbook
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Gary g...@eyetraxx.net wrote: Kevin T. Neely wrote: I just recall a good bit of the video's focus was aimed at the corporate commuter types (so-called VPN-less connection to corporate email being first in my mind), so I thought that was a market segment they were going after. That's just Microsoft ActiveSync and it's no real feat if they're just using Microsoft clients. They may also be licensing ActiveSync for any Nokia developed apps but that's just guesswork on my part. Actually, it's a new MSFT technology called DirectConnect (or DirectAccess or something like that) that is basically a multi-path IPv6 IPSEC tunnel. I guess they can say no VPN needed because it only goes to the corp network when it needs to, but this seems to be really splitting hairs and I think of it as a VPN. It supports multi-factor authentication (of course, this will kill the seamless nature) so I would bet this will replace the MS PPTP solution. It requires MS Direct Connect server and something on the client end (just MS Windows, I think) for it to work. Though, if it is just IPSEC, I guess other clients could connect to it. PPTP needs to be replaced, so this looks nice. Seeing as my company has its own VPN solution, I doubt we will be deploying this. K -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Nokia netbook
I wasn't even suggesting Nokia offer Linux as a purchase option, just as an after-purchase option for someone that wants it. It would be different in the same ways the Win7 booklet is different from other windows netbooks, basically styling and the GSM SIM card slot. not that that is unique, but it is distinguishable from most. K Sent from my N97 read about it at http://rubbernecking.info -Original Message- From: Alexandru Cardaniuc Sent: 08/25/2009 3:47:24 PM Subject: Re: Nokia netbook Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com writes: I just recall a good bit of the video's focus was aimed at the corporate commuter types (so-called VPN-less connection to corporate email being first in my mind), so I thought that was a market segment they were going after. I suspect an Ubuntu or other Linux port to this booklet would not be too difficult and that we'll see one soon after launch. Maybe even from some Linux hobbyists from within Nokia in the same way Sony releases unsupported versions for the Playstation. That would satisfy me. But then, how is that netbook from Nokia going to be different from netbooks from other manufacturers? -- Great things can be reduced to small things, and small things can be reduced to nothing. - Chinese Proverb ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900/Maemo 5 review
I have to say, I'm pretty excited about the N900. That looks like Canola in the pictures. If they integrated that into the base system, the Maemo team did a very smart thing there. Looking forward to hearing more about it from Nokia World.announcements. K On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Antonio Di Cello antoniodice...@libero.itwrote: In Italian - http://rafanto.net/anteprima-nokia-n900-rx-51-con-maemo-5/ Sincerely, rafanto Hi everyone! I'm sure all of you are eager to look at the newest N900. Here is the first review of the device by Eldar Murtazin, Russian mobile columnist. In English - http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-rx51-n900-en.shtml Russian version - http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-rx51-n900.shtml Enjoy ;) -- Sincerely, Eugene ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: omweather failure
I don't develop, but I would think that 1.0 means you met all your original goals. small point versions after that would be bug fixes and feature tweaks (but not much in the way of additions). The 2.0 version would be worked on and subsequently released when the app no longer does everything you want it to. (in developing 1.0, one comes up with a ton of features they hadn't thought of but just have to go out of scope). I know that's not really the way it's done, but it makes sense to me. Otherwise, version number milestones like 1.0, 2.0 are just arbitrary. K On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/10 Peter Bart pe...@petertheplumber.net: On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:36:13 +0100 Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie wrote: Kevin T. Neely wrote: Guess it just wasn't there a couple days back when I checked. Hooray for those omweather guys, they're usually only a few days behind weather.com's incessantly changing of format/syntax. Yes, they do an excellent job. But weather.com have screwed up something: all my stations for France cause the error message Wrong station code or ZIP code!!!. I deleted all my stations and then added them all back in again, just in case the internal codes had changed, but they still cause this error. Maybe weather.com has something against France? All the others work... Peter, I had the same issue you do in the USA. For some reason I didn't see the update; in the application manager; until this morning. I now have v0.22.6 and everything works well. OMWeather has turned into quite the polished program! A simple desktop applet that has a load of useful information behind it. Best Regards, Now that we've finally seen VLC hit the 1.0 version, we'll we ever seen OMWeather do the same? :) There are S many open source applications stuck at 1.0 versions... Actually, I really do not understand :) 1.0 should mean stable and enough bug free, not full features rich, right ? Otherwise this would mean that VLC, for example, is.. done. :) -- anidel ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: omweather failure
I am guessing so, as I got this message the other day. Removed/re-added the locations and checked for updates. Still a no-go. K On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.iewrote: Suddely, omweather on my N800 has started popping up messages saying the location cannot be found or the zip code is wrong. It's been working just fine for weeks since the last upgrade, and I have it configured for about 15 locations that I commonly visit, including a couple that I added to the database and rebuilt -- but which it has accepted perfectly happily until now. Has the Weather Channel changed its feed URI recently? ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: omweather failure
Guess it just wasn't there a couple days back when I checked. Hooray for those omweather guys, they're usually only a few days behind weather.com's incessany changing of format/syntax. K On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw d...@docharley.com wrote: Ditto, installed the update last night and all is good. Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of sean Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:59 PM To: Peter Flynn Cc: maemo-users Subject: Re: omweather failure Peter Flynn wrote: Suddely, omweather on my N800 has started popping up messages saying the location cannot be found or the zip code is wrong. It's been working just fine for weeks since the last upgrade, and I have it configured for about 15 locations that I commonly visit, including a couple that I added to the database and rebuilt -- but which it has accepted perfectly happily until now. Has the Weather Channel changed its feed URI recently? ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users There is a new version, the upgrade cured the problem for me. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Reading PDFs
That's a great tip!
For power, look into something like an XPAL portable charger. I have one,
and though it charges itself via USB by default, the jack is a standard
Nokia one, so I use my Nokia chargers to charge it back up. Very handy.
K
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie wrote:
One of the problems with PDFs that are designed for printing is that the
margins and the orientation are understandably suboptimal for reading on
an 800x480 screen on a handheld device.
While sorting out some material for a long flight and trip next month, I
realised that by trimming the margins and rotating 90 degrees clockwise,
the pages of a book-shaped PDF could be made to fit comfortably on the
N800 screen so that I could hold it long ways up, with the control
button at the bottom where my thumb would be.
You can probably do this in a full copy of Acrobat, but the following
LaTeX code seems to do the job:
\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
\usepackage[landscape,margin=0pt,nohead,nofoot,
papersize={480,800},textheight=440bp]{geometry}
\usepackage{pdfpages}
\pagestyle{empty}
\begin{document}
\includepdf[angle=270,trim=72 72 72 72,pages=-]{filename}
\end{document}
The only things you need to measure are how much to trim off the four
sides to get rid of some of the margins (the units are Adobe points).
The minus argument to pages means all; you can also select a list or
range in curly braces like pages={1,2,3-10,14-22} etc.
Happy summer reading...now all I need is a battery capable of lasting an
8-hr flight in cattle class where there are no charger outlets...
///Peter
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Re: replacement battery for N810
Not sure that's true. I use the same charger for all my devices, and my E63 battery is definitely bigger than the N800. Both are 3.7V. N800 1300mAh, E63 1500mAh. Just wish they had the leads in the same place so I could swap them back and forth. I would think any charger from a Nokia smartphone would be fine on the tablets. Of course, I have no empirical evidence for any of this. :) K On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie wrote: Kevin T. Neely wrote: Nokia uses the same charger for all its batteries, so I'm sure that wouldn't be a problem. But you can get several differently-rated Nokia chargers with the same micro-plug (like the N800) intended for other devices like phones. So they'll fit, but the weaker (phone) ones won't give the heavier devices (N800) the full charge -- as I discovered to my cost when we went away last year and I forgot my N800 charger and couldn't buy one anywhere and had to rely on my daughter's phone charger twice a day... ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: replacement battery for N810
Nokia uses the same charger for all its batteries, so I'm sure that wouldn't be a problem. You want to make sure it is the same voltage as the original battery. Greater mAh should simply mean longer run (and longer charge) times. K On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Erik Hovland e...@hovland.org wrote: I've been looking at replacement batteries for my N810 and came across Mugen Power 1800 mAh Extended Battery at $29.95 It's 300 mAh more than stock Nokia battery. Does anybody have any experience with it? Does it really work? Is larger capacity actually noticeable? Also found Mugen Power 3600 mAh Extended Battery for N810 for $79.95 here: http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-3600mah-extended-battery-for-nokia-n810-with-battery-door-blue-p-475.html Would be interesting to know if anybody tried that one. That's 2.4 times more capacity than the stock battery. Nearly removes the need of caring spare batteries... A couple more questions :) Are the batteries above thicker than the Nokia stock battery? Will they fit N810 ? The Mugen batteries come in two sizes, the standard size and the extended size. Also, will the stock charger work with them ? Will it charge them to their full capacity? Don't know. But the battery would be useless if it couldn't be charged. My experience w/ batteries of this type is that they usually have a chip inside that the charger uses to figure out when it is full. E -- Erik Hovland e...@hovland.org http://hovland.org/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Rumor mill: Maemo 5 device
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.iewrote: Mark wrote: Also, at this point regular cellular voice would be a requirement for me. I'd rather not. I already have a perfectly working phone, and I don't want to combine phone and PDA: you look such a prat trying to work a Many of the points made are good ones, but to each his own on this one. Personally, I am 100% behind convergence for my pocket devices. I don't want to carry more than one. I may look like a prat with my microphone-equipped earbuds plugged into my phone, but no more than any other person listening to music, or really anyone walking down the street with one hand held against their head. These days, those people look stranger to me than ones that have their hands free. ...but I strongly suspect that those leaked specs are all somebody's fantasy. I think the GPS and accelerometer probably are. I doubt it. The N810 already has GPS in it, and Nokia is shipping both of these items (and more) with devices that are fully subsidized. I wouldn't want the N900 to only come as a subsidized option, but I would like to see it in both subsdized (carrier-tied) models and fully open ones. Choice is always good. K -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: omweather weirdness
What version are y'all running? I see an option to upgrade to 0.21.11, but am running 0.21.6 just fine, and was afraid to upgrade based on the comments. K On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Karl Kobel karlko...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Tim Peter, I also had this 'problem'. Check your App-Manager repositories. Make sure the ...Devel repositories are disabled. There is a 'test only' version in there. Un-install, disable the Devel repository, and reinstall. Karl Tim Ashman wrote: On Friday 19 June 2009 04:00:04 pm Peter Flynn wrote: I've had omweather on-screen ever since I got my N800 and it's been great. There was an update to the stations database the other day, and suddenly omweather has vanished from the screen, and it's no longer in the applet setup menu. So I uninstalled it (and the stations database) and reinstalled both, but I can't find a way to get it back into the applet menu, and when I run it standalone, there are no stations to select from. Has something happened that I have missed? ///Peter Same thing here. No applet anymore. Kinda a bummer. Hopefully this will be fixed soon. tim ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 for $180
Note that the Palm Pre came out before the SDK was even readily available. I'm not sure the SDK is a good metric. Also, most of Mark's arguments tend toward the Internet Tablet is not ready for end users. Taking that as a fact (for sake of argument) then the freezing of the SDK would be the best time to release a device. K On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Jamie Bennettja...@linuxuk.org wrote: OK, so you're saying that a beta SDK means impending device release? Doesn't seem likely to me... -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 for $180
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Kevin T. Neelyktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: Note that the Palm Pre came out before the SDK was even readily available. I'm not sure the SDK is a good metric. You're comparing apples with oranges. The Palm Pre already has a complete PIM etc. as well as a suite of other finished apps right out of the box, and is intended specifically for consumers, not developers. Therefore, it will sell and is useful right out of the box. That is in sharp contrast to a device that needs to have a stable SDK well before its release in order to generate hype with the developers who will be buying it. I'm doing nothing of the kind. I took your metric: the SDK and simply compared the two of them. Also, Mark is once again doing his famous argument which is bring up one thing and then ignore it later. He says the IT is not for the end user and only for developers, then complains that it does not have a mature and robust PIM system (something I have yet to be convinced that it needs, but that is another discussion). You can place one in the 'cons' column, but not both. No double-dipping allowed! K -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: maemo.org excrutiatingly slow
Everyone is downloading the Fremantle SDK? On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: Why is maemo.org so incredibly slow? It's always been far slower than any other site I frequent, but lately it's just getting worse and worse. I don't have that problem with any other site, and it doesn't matter what machine or device I'm using to access it. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Skype for SIP + N800/N810 - Does it Work?
Seems like this is the kind of thing that would be all abuzz a CTIA this week. K On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Jonathan Greene atmasph...@atmasphere.net wrote: I'm with you ... I just have no idea how to get it to work. I think you need a backend (like Asterisk) somewhere to actually route the call. http://nerdvittles.com/?p=587 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:42 PM, John B. Holmblad jholmb...@hotmail.com wrote: Jonathan, my assumption is that if Skype for Business is designed to work with a PBX that supports SIP trunking then it MAY also work with a softclient that utilizes SIP, such as the one provided with the N000/N810 OS. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC Jonathan Greene wrote: not directly on the device, but you can use Gizmo5 to point to Skype for a call in path ... maybe that will work on the tablet if that's what you are trying to do. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:55 AM, John B. Holmblad jholmb...@hotmail.com wrote: All, I visited the Skype for SIP beta www site whose url is: http://www.skype.com/business/form/sip-beta/ Has anyone been able to get this to work using the SIP client that is configured in the N800/N810 OS2008? It would appear that this new service from Skype is essentially a SIP trunking service. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- http://jonathangreene.tel Sent from New York, United States ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Skype for SIP + N800/N810 - Does it Work?
Can't rtcomm and/or Gizmo interface with Asterisk? Or do you mean the Asterisk server daemons running on the tablet? K On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Erik Hovland e...@hovland.org wrote: I'm with you ... I just have no idea how to get it to work. I think you need a backend (like Asterisk) somewhere to actually route the call. http://nerdvittles.com/?p=587 Probably not feasible, but there is no technical reason why Asterisk can't run on the N8x0. There are examples of Asterisk on ARM: http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Asterisk E -- Erik Hovland e...@hovland.org http://hovland.org/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: How About Google Maps for Mobile for the IT?
Also, it's not only touch screens that have Google Maps. There's an app for nearly all phones. But, like Jonathan said, it's an app, not viewing via the web client. K On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Jonathan Greene atmasph...@atmasphere.netwrote: keep in mind though that the iPhone and Android devices direct you to an application NOT the browser through a URL handler. not that that's not a good idea but no other device except for the upcoming PalmPre can really handle the heavy requirements in the browser. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:41 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, here is another app that would be nice to have on the IT: http://www.google.com/mobile/default/maps.html# At the end of that www page they put in the following teaser: Of course, if you have an iPhone, iPod touch, or Android device, you’ll already be familiar with Google Maps right there on your home screen. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - jonathangre...@gmail.com Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com Sent from: Paddington Greater London United Kingdom. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Ihpone on Steroids to IT G5?
they likely don't care about multi-tasking until you give a concrete example of a multi-tasking scenario: say, listening to mp3s while using IM. Or, switching between browsing, IM, and [your favourite iPhone app here]. concepts like multi-tasking tend to go over most people's heads until an example that directly impacts them comes into play. K On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:03 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, the post at the www page whose url is http://www.thestreet.com/story/10470711/1/rim-apple-feast-on-nokia.html frames the experience I had today. While seated at a luncheon following a technical meeting (Cisco/VMware/Netapp/etc) I duly noted that I was among a crowd (that would be ~6-8 people) where the average mobile device at the table was somewhere between the iphone and the blackberry. While explaining what I do to the individual seated next to me , I brought the N800 into the discussion and I blithely asserted that the N800 is, well,.like an iphone on steroids but without a GSM or CDMA radio for voice. Although the listener, knows that LInux is, in fact, an operating system, and is aware of the TMobile G1 (but not Android), that individual did not perceive it as a big deal that the N800 runs LInux and is therefore capable of multitasking. This is perhaps what I expected, that is, the end user, even of the kind (let's call them technically sophisticated professionals) who would attend such an event, does not really care about these things. I did ask the iphone user about her experience with the device and she said she loved it. And during a discussion on iphone jailbreaking she confirmed that one of her friends has jailbroken his iphone to get tethering to work. I think that the following commentary For consumers, it appears that features such as the touchscreen interface are more in demand than the OS. Since the iPhone was released, almost every major phone manufacturer is offering a touch-screen model, many of which are not smartphones from the wireless week article whose url is: http://www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=166592 says it all although the same article does have some positive things to say about the Nokia Nseries And speaking of Nokia and the Iphone, here is the url to another posting from the thestreet.com www site that suggests that Nokia will join hands with Verizon Wireless to take on the ATT/Iphone Cabal: http://www.thestreet.com/story/10468078/1/nokia-verizon-plan-exclusive-4g-device.html Maybe what the article's author is referring to without knowing it is G5 of the IT? -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way
I did set it up last year, so I am sure my pricing is pretty good. It's not so good that it is the *real* unlimited data which some people still enjoy. I get just over 100kbps, but that's because I have an N82 and it's Edge only in the US. When I swap my SIM to my N75, I get 400+kbps K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:45 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: Kevin, you may have legacy pricing because it now appears from the ATT www site that it is $30/month for the Data Connect service. Do you actually get bit rates above 100kbps in your location? I suspect that the ATT service, similar to Verizon Wireless's service, will automatically downhift to GPRS/Edge bit rates (on Verizon Wireless's network it is referred to as 1xRTT). Maybe ATT had a lower price for those geographic locations that were not yet upgraded to HSDPA. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Kevin T. Neely wrote: FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means 5GB) plan from ATT and I tether my laptop to that. K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com mailto:jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their salesperson. These choices are 1. Device only Internet access $30 US/month 2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability $60 US/month^1 (there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this) ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device. The monthly charge for that plan, called Data Connect is $60/month also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5 gb/month. I should note that the $60 US/month for pricing plan #2 above from ATT compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way
RDP and VNC are pretty light as far as full graphical protocols go, although you may be right about eating up the usage. Still, I'd imagine actually DOING the web browsing on a tethered phone would use just as much data. I can easily chew through 20-30MB on train ride just doing my mail. ICA is Citrix's lighter protocol. K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: Jonathan, I did not ask the sales rep, HOW ATT prevents tethering on the iphone and it did not occur to me that they would use the user identity and account info derived from the SIM to prevent tethering. For that to work, the ATT network would have to be able to determine when a device was attempting to tether while authenticated with a SIM and user account that did not allow that. I just assume that the iphone hw+sw was designed to not include tethering capability, from Apple, at least. As Jose points out, there is at least one app available to turn the iphone into an IEEE 802.11 Access Point. Now, I have to ask, does jailbreaking the iphone violate the ATT commercial terms of its use on the ATT Network? And speaking of data volume limits for these plans, I have learned that a good way to exceed the 5gb limit per month of either ATT's or Verizon Wireless's data plan is to start doing RDP or VNC sessions to other computers/servers from a computer that is tethered to your mobile device. Then launch a www browser on the target computer/server and visit your typical www sites (I am not even talking about, say youtube here) using that browser on that computer/server. With all the rich graphics. and dancing baloney on today's typical www site you will quickly consume that 5 gb on the mobile network with all the graphical content being played out over the RDP or VNC session. Actually I am making a bit of an assumption here, because so far I have only tried this using RDP. VNC may be more bit efficient. I understand that Citrix, the original developer of the RDP components that Microsoft uses, themselves have a more efficient version of RDP (RDP+?} that is, well, more efficient when it comes to the video part of RDP. In fact, and speaking only based on my experience with the typical real bandwidths (~300kbps in the direction to the tethered device) that I get over the Verizon Wireless network in the locations where I use it, I get that old dial up/slow-mo feeling sometimes when using this service. The performance is bad enough that I wish it would be better, but good enough that I keep using it. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Jonathan Greene wrote: I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810, netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be more like your only connection ... On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means 5GB) plan from ATT and I tether my laptop to that. K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their salesperson. These choices are 1. Device only Internet access $30 US/month 2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability $60 US/month^1 (there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this) ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device. The monthly charge for that plan, called Data Connect is $60/month also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5 gb/month. I should note that the $60 US/month for pricing plan #2 above from ATT compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org
Re: Bluetooth headset - N800
That is a tricky thing to remember. The first time they are turned on, headsets are automatically in pairing mode. After that, you have to usually hit some sort of button voodoo to get them into it again. K On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Chiron Bloch johnnybadhab...@gmail.comwrote: Are you sure the headset itself is in pairing mode?To activate pairing mode on the H350, start with the headset turned off, then press and hold the call button until the indicator light turns on and stays steadily lit. At this point the headset should be visible to the N800. If it is, attempt to pair with the headset and enter the default passcode for the headset (located in the documentation or online). Obviously disregard this if you have already attempted to pair the headset with pairing mode activated. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:25 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.comwrote: Mark wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:25 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: Is it possible to connect a Bluetooth headset, such as those used with cell phones to the N800? I've tried connecting to a Motorola H350, which I use with my cell phone, but the N800 doesn't see it. tnx jk The procedure with the headset itself is of course the same as with anything else - put it in pairing mode. With the N800, go to Control Panel-Bluetooth. Make sure the Bluetooth on checkbox is checked, then click Devices-New. I don't remember whether or not Visible needs to be checked, but I think that's only necessary if the N800 is being used as a client, like as a remote control or something. My Jabra BT250v works fine with my N800. That's what I'm doing and while I can see several devices, I can't see anything that I can identify as being my headset. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Moving icon to different menu in task navigator
Control Panel Panels Organize. K On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jeffrey Barish jeff_bar...@earthlink.netwrote: After installing Gizmo, it suggested that I install an upgrade. The upgrade moved the icon to Extras. How can I move it to Communication or Internet? -- Jeffrey Barish ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Canola2 no video icon
I had a similar problem where my install was missing all the Internet-y icons (photostream, last.fm, etc). The problem was I had the extras-devel repo enabled and it basically installed different versions of Canola, and broke the plugins. I had to uninstall, disable the extras-devel repo, and then reinstall. InternetTabletTalk.com forums have an entire channel devoted to Canola. I found -a better description- of my problem there. hope that helps, K On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Has anyone come across this one before. I have installed Canola2 on a diablo N810 and don't have a video's icon. If so how did you fix it. Thanks. Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Installing Easy Debian
Doesn't Easy Debian expect that you are running from the built-in memory? Maybe it is confused since you are running from your external card. Since you are already using a custom bootloader, why not install regular Debian for the tablet? just a guess, K On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Rick Bilonick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've set up my N810 to boot from an 8GB external SDHC card. This works perfectly. I installed the easy debian chroot package. When I use the install image program created in Extras, it always shows only a small amount of space on the external card. It says it needs about 1.3GB but only a few hundred mb's appear to be free. What should I do? Rick B. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: What to do
Like this? http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24272 K On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Dean Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I recently got given a Dell axim x51v that does the same job as my 770 but im thinking of selling them both and getting an iPhone. I wanna hack it to run debian yet im not thinking its possible. I've gone a bit debian crazy atm lol. I know maemo is based on debian yet i want to know if it is possible just 2 run debian on it? If i can i might not sell it. I don't like the axim think it has more compatibility issues than the 770. Any recommendations would be useful thanks in advance. Dean Chester E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://deanchester.com/blog ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: What to do
Not sure, really, as I have not tried it. It installs to the memory card and you have to reboot. I am *guessing* that it creates a boot loader to boot either Maemo from the onboard memory, or the Debian install in the mem card. But this looks far easier than the last install Debian on your tablet I saw, which was a bit more involved and had you go through the create a boot loader steps manually. K On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:52 AM, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, does that install an instance of Debian LInux as a virtual machine on OS2008 or does it in fact replace OS2008 altogether? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * *GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GAWN, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM*** *Cisco Select Certified Partner and SMB Specialist | **Microsoft Small Business Specialist | Speakeasy Certified VOIP Partner | Linksys Authorized LVS Partner | Qualys Certified Qualysguard Specialist* * * (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 (W) www.acadiasecure.com primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin T. Neely wrote: Like this? http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24272 K On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Dean Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I recently got given a Dell axim x51v that does the same job as my 770 but im thinking of selling them both and getting an iPhone. I wanna hack it to run debian yet im not thinking its possible. I've gone a bit debian crazy atm lol. I know maemo is based on debian yet i want to know if it is possible just 2 run debian on it? If i can i might not sell it. I don't like the axim think it has more compatibility issues than the 770. Any recommendations would be useful thanks in advance. Dean Chester E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://deanchester.com/blog ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: I loaded canola did not work on n770
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 06:12:14PM -0700, Jeff Treague wrote: I loaded canola on to my sons n770. Would not install. Do I need a program to go with it to get it to work. Can you Help Although I thought they had made this dependency seamless on the 770, Canola requires Python to be installed. It ma be a simple thing of adding the necessary repositories, Maemo Extras perhaps. Or, just go and install python for maemo. Having that installed tends to fix a number of installation issues on the 770. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Diablo released
Haven't heard about this: Does A2DP work with Diablo out-of-the-box? thanks, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OT: Nokia to release Symbian/S60 under open-source license
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 04:42:47PM -0500, mathew wrote: tanguyr wrote: Also, it will commit to moving the platform to open source during the next two years, with the intent to use the Eclipse Public License. Will this mean the death of mandatory code signing for basic functionality like file storage, I wonder? Maybe they will implement a red pill mode... K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Diablo released
Chinook supports it? The last I'd read was that you needed to jump through some hoops to get it to work. thanks, K On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 07:51:14PM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote: It did previously ... On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Kevin T. Neely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't heard about this: Does A2DP work with Diablo out-of-the-box? thanks, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIYsClE+4TUALb7FERAunCAJ4nIwqRm7S8J/VZpEPJBXnObD8PegCgqohH XZmwx7uLGmaJLbe4hf0peSM= =JA7E -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Reading Ebooks.
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 08:38:01PM +0930, Peter wrote: I was hoping that some else out their may be able to share their experiences with readers for the N810. Sadly, mobipocket has not been ported to maemo. You can, however, install Garnet VM and then install your Palm reader on that. It supports full-screen now but I have not been able to try it since the upgrade killed my installation somehow. I mostly use FBreader, coupled with Gutenbrowse to get books from the Gutenberg project. I am looking for a good way to port pdfs to a format FBreader understands (prc/pdb perhaps?) but have not come across one yet. I was happy to see that someone had ported Zittrain's new _Future of the Internet_ book to that format and it works perfectly in FBreader. http://www.consumingexperience.com/2008/06/free-ebook-zittrain-future-of-internet.html hope that helps, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Postal address in Contacts?
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:41:48AM -0600, Mark wrote: Okay, what problem does it solve? It's not a cellphone, so phone numbers are no help. How many phone numbers do you need to look up To follow your logic, there is no reason that the tablet's contacts profile should have physical addresses because it cannot do anything with them. It certainly cannot send snail mail, and until recently the tablets did not have GPS (a reason for addresses to be included in Diablo perhaps?) But the tablet *can* send e-mail and it *can* initiate voice communications, which is a good reason for it to store e-mail addresses. I believe the RTcomm update allows you to initiate voice calls to phone numbers that are stored in the contacts database but I have not played with this. when your cell phone stores those? It can't send email addresses to anything but the built-in email app, so that's no help. How many times do you need to look up someone's email address when your email program The internal contacts database also works with Modest, which is what I use. Therefore, the e-mail program I use /does/ use the the contacts database. stores that? Almost none of my contacts have their own Web sites, and Mine do, and I cannot remember every single .edu/~username out there, nor do I want to fill up my bookmarks with this, since it is such a small screen. So, the contacts database may not fufill *your* needs, and it is far from perfect, but it is certainly not useless. Many of your examples tell us why Contacts does not fit Mark's needs, but do not demonstrate that the app is useless. I would love for it to be better and more useful, but insisting on using words like Useless does not help to foster useful discussion on the topic. Yeah, useless is exactly the correct term. If this is supposed to be a consumer device, it needs to meet the needs of consumers, not only A consumer device, yes. A Personal Information Manager, no. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Postal address in Contacts?
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 04:34:09PM -0600, Mark wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Kevin T. Neely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:41:48AM -0600, Mark wrote: To follow your logic, No, you're most certainly *not* following my logic. My logic is that physical addresses are something that needs to be looked up, whereas I am. Your logic was, If the tablet does not do X, it does not need to store Y Well, following that, there is no need to store physical addresses because the tablet cannot send actual, physical mail. It's a stupid permutation but it does follow the logic trail you laid in the earlier e-mail. ...and neither can its owner if they can't find the address... That's just circular, and you know it. If we follow that, then the information it stored you thought was useless is not so. A phone number cannot be dialled w/o the owner. Nor an e-mail address. The tablet is, to me, an electronic communications device. Would I like for *all* my contact information to be in there? Of course, but if we have to pick and choose, then it makes sense to have the information that is immediately useful, like phone numbers, e-mail addresses, and IM addresses (the latter two pretty much the same, heck, with VOIP, all three pretty much the same). Let's see if I've got this straight: you're saying that it's somehow easier to drag out the tablet, start up Contacts, look up the person, make sure you're tethered to your phone with bluetooth, then use the tablet to tell the phone to dial the number, than to simply open the I think this has been addressed, but in short, tethering is simple and seamless in my usage. And, besides, I was really referring to using wi-fi. Not that that matters much. The tablet is meant to be online. The newest version is WIMAX-enabled, which should give a good idea of where Nokia is going with it. A device of the future, always connected. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GPE calendar sync?
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:56:19PM +0200, Magnus Larsson wrote: Just upgraded from a N770 to a N800, and are now trying to get gpe calendar to sync to evolution on a ubuntu laptop. On the laptop I have multisync 0.90, opensync 0.22, inlcuding the libopensync-gpe, and on the N800 the gpesyncd. I came across this while looking for a SyncML client for my Chinook tablet. http://www.cleardefinition.com/page/Sync_Evolution_and_GPE_on_N800/ perhaps that will help you? I am not trying to sync that. I have GPEcal and Google Calendar syncing perfectly with Ermining. However, never one to be satisfied, I was looking at using ScheduleWorld to sync everything (ermining just does cal). I believe that all I would need is a SyncML client, point it to the GPE databases, and then point it to the resources at ScheduleWorld. No luck so far. hope that helps, Kevin -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GPE calendar sync?
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 07:04:20PM -0700, Lake Stevens Dental wrote: What program do you use to sync your n800 with GC? I've installed GPE in my 800 and couldn't find anywhere to sync with GC. Claws Mail's calendar doesn't seem to have a GC link feature either. I use Ermining. It works perfectly. there was a post to this list a couple emonths ago regarding two different ways to sync gCal with GPE on the tablet. I chose to go the Ermining route. It was easy to setup and I am syncing multiple calendars (mine and friends I have added to my gCal) without any problems. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Lock, sleep, power-down
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:07:49PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: One thing I know happens now is that touching the screen turns on the backlight while locked. So sitting in the case in my bag may be turning That shouln't happen. Touching the screen should no bring the backlight up. However, hitting one of the hard buttons ought to bring it up, so the device can show you how to unlock it. This may have been mentioned before, but did you trying placing it in offline mode before locking? I definitely get better battery time if I do that so the wlan won't kick in as i move between networks it knows or thinks it knows. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Cell Phone As Modem
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:09:07PM +0300, Sameer Verma wrote: Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: service would keep telling me that I could not use Bluetooth because I had not purchased the tethering package. I was at the end of my contract and so, I switched to T-Mobile. It not only connects vis The what? I'm sorry, that's just funny. I don't think I've ever heard of anything like that. You either have a data plan or you don't. Either way, if your phone is capable, you should be able to tether to it. Never listen to anything the ATT service people say. Firstly, one will usually tell you something completely different from what the next will say, and secondly, they're usually /both/ wrong. Like Jonathan, I use an N-series handset. It works perfectly for me and seems pretty quick on the 3g network. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Master reset
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 04:47:36PM -0500, Kahlil Johnson wrote: Hi I am going to sell my old 770 and I would like to know how can I master reset it, or at least update to the latest build for 770. You can get the flasher and the latest firmware image from Nokia's support site. There is also a OS2008 hacker edition firmware floating out there. Those would be the newest versions for the 770. Flashing will eliminate all your personal data stored on the device, but will not touch any MMC cards you have in there, so you will have to delete that data manually. hope that helps, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Newbie to maemo lookig for advice
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 04:07:39PM +0200, Arnau Bria wrote: On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:35:55 -0700 Lake Stevens Dental wrote: installable program it doesn't appear there, it typically shows up with appropriate links in the Maemo.org downloadable programs, or in the Maemo garage. It does not appear in mine, but I should update my repos. No matter about that. You may need to add a repo, like extras or something. Helpfully, many of the apps you install these days from sites like maemo.org and garage.maemo.org add their repo for you, making updates and such easier. For standard add-ons like the above, the popular secondary repos like Extras will probably make them available for you. Don't forget to update the application catalogue! with it offline. My wife and daughter are wandering around Europe with my tablet so they can call me over the internet, so I'll have to wait for a week or so to see what does or doesn't work in the Claws calendar plugin. Thanks for the info. Now that talked about internet call, I must study this issue too. Dr. Fred, That's really cool that you are keeping in contact via VOIP from Europe, how is it working? The primary apps for this are Gizmo and Skype. They should be very easy to install on an up-to-date OS2008 install. For a bit more work and for a real communications upgrade for the tablet, check out rtcomm project which, I think, is a replacement enhancement for the communication systems, adding features and making them feel more default. Mmm... my idea is not running movies but some home-made video. You know, party ones, etc... It may depend upon what you use to create the videos. I was able to transfer videos taken with my N-series phone to my tablet and play them without a problem. Other .avi files require me to run them through the excellent tablet-encode program available on garage. Tablet-encode formats the resolution for the screen, and also (can) easily reduce quality and file size so you can fit more on the tablet. hope that's a help, Kevin -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Newbie to maemo lookig for advice
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:51:53AM -0700, lakestevensdental wrote: IMHO, Gizmo has a minor advantage in that you can phone another Gizmo account and leave voice mail for free. Skype charges for that. Gizmo also offers 'connections' to about ten messenger programs like (I fear we are treading beyond the scope of maemo-users here, but since Gizmo has no decent talk forums (they never got my account working right, and I can't use them) and I promise to try to bring this back around, I will continue.) I have noticed that, if a person has a Gizmo account, and they have associated a mobile phone with it, you can send them a txt message through the IM interface. Evidently, you can send txt messages with the phone Gizmo5 client, but I don't really use that one. If straight-up IM worked through the desktop (incl. tablet) clients, then that would really be something. I see these apps as very important to the maemo platform. If WIMAX ever actually takes off, then the Internet Tablet can finally move to being a full-fledged Communication Tablet. Thanks for the usage description, Dr. Fred. I need to get my parents a camera for their computer so I can give that a try. As it is, I have only used the voice aspects of these programs, but I look forward to giving video a try. cheers, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Microb Versus Mozilla Fennec
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 04:50:54PM +0200, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: MicroB opens my Google Reader page with no issue at all, and is actually quite fast. Lucky, it doesn't work for me. Fennec is still pretty unusable for me on an n800, although i have it installed and am waiting for an updated version. Sadly, readermini.com doesn't really work anymore, either, making me far, far behind on my RSS subscriptions. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Microb Versus Mozilla Fennec
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 11:53:29AM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote: I tend to use the mobile version of GR, which I don't really like, but at least it's reliable. They need to do much more than a single item, ust fired up reader on my 800 and it appears to be working, albeit slowly (might blame canola running in the background on that one). What's the mobile reader URL? Tried m.reader.google.com but that was a no-go (besides, it looks like a USENET group!) K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Microb Versus Mozilla Fennec
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 12:48:33AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my earlier post I said that our browser development is being done nowadays on the Gecko trunk (practically same as Fennec) and we are also willing to embrace the Firefox add-on developer community. Fennec will Will we see this use of the Gecko trunk in the next OS2008 release (the one that's coming with 810 WIMAX)? Thanks Quim for the great description of the work being done. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: omweather stopped working: bad codes
On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 11:46:16PM +0100, Peter Flynn wrote: I am running omweather on my N800 under OS2007. I have been using it since I got the device last year and it seemed to work perfectly. Check the thread Re: omweather recently broken? on this list from earlier today. Weather.com has changed something. Evidently, the fix is easy, but omweather has not been updated yet. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Decent PIM for the N8x0
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 05:54:16PM -0600, Mark wrote: actually does out of the box. (And that tiny screen makes the it's only an Internet device excuse extremely absurd - who can stand to browse the Web very long with these things?) It's Nokia that has screwed us all, *including* the developers who were also hoping for I have no problem browsing, IMing, eBooking (if that an be a verb) for hours on the tablet. Compare it to any phone, and the tablet's screen is huge and the browsing experience is far superior. And before you say it, no the tablet is not a phone, but it is not a laptop, either. In fact, the tablet is much more like a phone than a laptop. Just look at how Nokia has it marketed: it is an N-series device, which (apart from the tablet) is all smartphones. Lately, i have used Word-py to post a few blog entries. This is actually a pretty nice text editor, and may be a good option for some more-formatted notes you may want to create. I believe it saves in HTML format, which you could import into OO.org or whatever. As much as I, like you, want to have my data available when not connected, this tablet is most assuredly marketed as an Internet Tablet and it appears the developers have Internet-connectedness in mind with the app development. For right or wrong (and I think this is the right path, just as I think incliding Firefox 3 beta in the Hardy Heron Ubuntu release was the right forward-looking thing to do) this is the path the tablet is on, and it will become better as access becomes more ubiquitous, but it looks like we still have some growing pains ahead. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Decent PIM for the N8x0
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 11:49:56AM -0600, Mark wrote: On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Kevin T. Neely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just look at how Nokia has it marketed: it is an N-series device, which (apart from the tablet) is all smartphones. That's really not true. First of all, every one of those smartphones has a decent PIM that works (not to mention a whole bunch of other Exactly what I said, they are all so-called smartphones as opposed to laptops. Of course, that line blurs more and more each year. I think the tablets are completely consumer devices. Based on mine, a couple other people at work have purchased them. One, I even had to upgrade the OS for her, since that process did not make sense to her. But still, they all manage to take advantage of a number of apps, including GPE and canola, on the tablet. And, since the beginning of this thread, I have started to use the GPE apps more. I now have Cal syncing with my Google Calendar(s) with Ermining and it works great, I've imported my contacts, so even though they do not sync (boy, syncing w/ Google would be great!) I still have 95% of the contacts I would ever want to look at sitting there in my pocket. Kudos to Graham and all his work. GPE may not be polished, but it has added yet another facet to my tablet. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Decent PIM for the N8x0
Summary: - Developers use Bugzilla as a to-do list for their project, with input from users - Many users are frustrated by the need to remember a login and enter the data - It is not a perfect system Can we move on from the Bugzilla discussion please? If there are still complaints or ideas for Bugzilla, it would be more constructive to take those to the Bugzilla team. Thanks to Graham for GPE, thanks to the users for their time and ideas, Kevin -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: English dictionary
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 03:35:48PM +0800, jason zhang wrote: Is there an English dictionary Application for OS2800? It will be great if the dictionary can pronounce the word. dict is available for the platform. I use dict for both English and English-German lookups. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Hacker Edition (was Re: Is OS2006 still supported?)
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 07:49:54AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:43:59AM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: Hi, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My personal opinion (and I insist in the personal bit) is that a requisite to continue any Hacker Edition model is to have the community hackers not only involved but driving. Agreed. But Nokia need to do some more work to make this viable. As I outline in my maemo.org: what next? post[1], I'm afraid you can't get this for free. The community *could* maintain the Hacker Editions, but currently the level of work involved would be too great to make it worthwhile. For example (and I've not tried any of this myself, since I no longer have a 770, so please forgive any errors): * How can the community create an easy to install FIASCO image? * How can the community easily recompile large numbers of source packages from Maemo 3.x and 4.x with 770-compatible optimisations? * Are the changes which were necessary to build the existing HEs integrated upstream; is the series of patches applyable and maintainable over a given codebase? * Is it clear which bits of an N800 firmware image need to be extracted and reused wholesale, and which bits of an existing 770 firmware image need to copied verbatim as they are binary blobs? * Can the kernel be updated and still maintain user-expected functionality such as wifi, BT and power management? * If all the above is possible, can the community actually redistribute the images in compliance with the click-through EULA on ITOS firmware downloads, which prohibits redistribution? And: * Which of the 3rd party binary blobs (flashplayer[1], fonts etc) in the newer release would require users to buy extra licensees to legally use it on another product. And for which they can actually do this [1] For example, you need to buy a license for using Flashplayer on an embedded device: Usage of Adobe Web Players is only permitted for supported platforms; usage rights on non-PC devices or embedded systems are not granted by this license. see: http://www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution/ It's not clear whether the n800 is an embedded device. It's very similar to some of the hard-disk-free laptops that are appearing these days, except for form factor. Although the exact nature of the tablets is certainly up for debate, it looks like Adobe has done a pretty decent job of excluding the tablets. Licensee may not distribute, download or embed the Software on any non-PC device or with any embedded or device version of any operating system. For the avoidance of doubt, and by example only, Licensee may not distribute the Software for use on any (A) mobile devices, set top boxes (STB), handhelds, phones, web pads, tablets and Tablet PCs (that are not running Windows XP or Windows Vista Tablet PC Edition), Going (very briefly, and using w3m to do so) through their licensing information, it looks like they take an inclusive approach to the platforms. If it is not explcitly included, then it is not covered by the license. The above exclusions appear to be examples for mobile products that are not included. That licensing will certainly cause some inconsistency with licensing as convergent devices are released. The thinkpad tablet running full ubuntu comes to mind. I am sure you can download and run the linux flash player, but you may unwittingly be in violation of the license. Another funny quirk of licensing is Apple's recent only for devices with an Apple logo specification. Can you slap a sticker on the device and say it is logo'd? Probably not, but a strict reading of the license language might support that. In any case, this certainly demonstrates we cannot simply blame Nokia as some people seem to want to do. There are many factors to this problem. I have my 770 sitting around. I'm thinking of using Canola to turn it into a web-enabled picture frame. I would love to extend its usefulness with a hacker edition, or I would install something compeltely different on it (android, maybe? Or something from that Poky platform builder?), but it certainly plays second fiddle to my 800. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OpenOffice (was Bluetooth keyboard?)
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 09:15:07PM -0600, Mark Haury wrote: Kevin T. Neely wrote: I'd love to be able to run office apps on my tablet, but might it not just be easier in situations like the above to use vnc or similar to connect to a desktop machine that can run these apps and viewers? Not if the tablet is all you have with you, or a desktop machine with the requisite apps isn't available or connectable via wireless, or you simply *can't* take a larger machine with you, and the list goes on and on. When I bought my tablet, I really was hoping it would be more of a laptop I assume that the tablet has internet connectivity, b/c you mentioned dl'ing the presentations on the fly. In any case, it can almost always be connected through your phone. The other assumption is to leave home or office workstation on, with VNC server (or equivalent) running. Every windows machine (since XP) has remote desktop built-in, so that is also an option. With that running, just have the appropriate ports forwarded on the router to the machine. Perhaps not the ideal solution, but should be implementable (is that a word) for just about anyone. And, in any case, is easier than fooling around with office for the tablet and worrying about its ability to convert a 12meg powerpoint or complex spreadhsheet. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OpenOffice (was Bluetooth keyboard?)
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:22:08PM -0600, Mark wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Kevin T. Neely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 09:15:07PM -0600, Mark Haury wrote: Kevin T. Neely wrote: I'd love to be able to run office apps on my tablet, but might it not just be easier in situations like the above to use vnc or similar to connect to a desktop machine that can run these apps and viewers? Not if the tablet is all you have with you, or a desktop machine with the requisite apps isn't available or connectable via wireless, or you simply *can't* take a larger machine with you, and the list goes on and on. When I bought my tablet, I really was hoping it would be more of a laptop per-MB charges. Meanwhile, free Wi-Fi is ubiquitous in most metro areas, where the need for urgent Internet access is most likely to occur, and it's way faster than any form of wireless phone network Great! then we can assume wireless access, and will snip the rest off snip but should be implementable (is that a word) for just about anyone. Nope. Not even close. Guess I need a better word then. Still. VNC server is basically install, choose a port, and forward that port on the router. That is pretty much a point-and-click procedure. It may take a bit of playing around, but will be nowhere near as difficult as fiddling with beta versions of OO tablet edition. Wrong again. I have yet to have a recent version of OOo choke on any Word, Excel, or Powerpoint file I've thrown at it, or even screw up I am sure that OO (if it were implemented) on a tablet would choke on complex docs. And the main point is that it is not currently on the tablet, so this is an in-the-meantime solution that is not difficult and may actually be useful. But, I came up with a second solution. I think you'll like this one: From the original post, I did not realize you had access to the files ahead of time. If you have that, you can use OO.org to convert to pdf and then use evicne on the tablet to view them. voila! still, not ideal, but I suspect OO tablet edition is quite a ways off. good luck! K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: gpe contacts import
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 01:43:26PM -0300, Jonathan Markevich wrote: If OSS doesn't view itself as professional as commercial stuff, then it's guaranteed to fail in the long run. Look at the success stories of OSS; Firefox, Apache, Linux, OOo, and so on. They aren't based around the Oh really? I started using Mozilla 0.5 or so, shortly after they split the code from Netscape. There were a number of problems with all compenents (back before the Firefox-Thunderbird split) and submitted and voted for numerous bugs, reallocating my votes after certain bugs were fixed. I would posit that Firefox is a better product specifically *because* of all the bug submissions. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: gpe contacts import
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 02:50:08PM -0300, Jonathan Markevich wrote: My point there was that Mozilla/FF always considered itself to be professional, no matter how open the code is. Did anyone from the Mozilla Besides, a typical install installs not only Firefox but the crash reporter... so, it nicely sidesteps the issue we are discussing anyway. My point was that Mozille did not start out as the polished product you download today. I do not recall a crash reporter being a part of the install back then. In fact, the install consisted of unzipping to a some directory. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OpenOffice (was Bluetooth keyboard?)
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 05:15:38PM -0700, Andrew Daviel wrote: I don't want to create documents, I just want to view PowerPoint. And maybe Word. And maybe**2 Excel. Not all in one huge app. For when I'm at I'd love to be able to run office apps on my tablet, but might it not just be easier in situations like the above to use vnc or similar to connect to a desktop machine that can run these apps and viewers? K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS 2008 Bluetooth keyboard problems (was: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions)
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:39:31PM -0400, Norman Ramsey wrote: Don't just stew, vote for the bug here: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2850 Let Nokia know this is happening to more people and you're not pleased. I can't believe we have only 5 votes for this killer bug. Thank you so much for the pointer. I have tried and failed to vote for this bug. Perhaps my experience will explain why it has received FYI, using my tablet, I created a bugzilla account, entered teh bug number above (2850) and voted for it. It probably took me 2.5 minutes. It's annoying yes, but something I've been meaning to do. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Xournal 0.4.2.1 has been ported to Maemo Chinook
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 12:19:38AM +0200, Andrea Grandi wrote: yes, we have to enable this: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ Like a charm, thank you so much for the followup! Well done and very cool app. I like it! K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
gps and maps
This is kind of a silly question... I'm looking to get a BT GPS for my n800 and I was wondering something about the capabilities of the map programs for the tablets: Does it talk to you? thanks! K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Xournal 0.4.2.1 has been ported to Maemo Chinook
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 01:07:53PM +0200, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: Just wanted to make people be aware I have finished the Maemo port of the latest Xournal versionhttp://anidel.blogspot.com/2008/04/xournal-0421-available-in-maemo-extras.html(v0.4.2.1). The improvements and features look great. Sadly when I go to install it (OS2008, latest), I am missing a couple dependencies libart-2.0-2 poppler-utils Refreshed my application catalog, and I see it, but when I try to apt-get install them, I get a message stating they are not available, but referred to by another package. thanks, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS 2008 Bluetooth keyboard problems (was: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions)
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 09:29:24PM -0400, Norman Ramsey wrote: 1. Based on random criteria I haven't been able to figure out, the Bluetooth keyboard sometimes activates the word-completion I have seen this. Cannot figure out what causes it, either. I am only really typing txt messages and such, so it is not much of an issue forme, although it takes up valuable screen real-estate. Since moving to OS2008, I have not done much major typing through the shell. If I were, and if this happened, it would definitely be a pain. 2. THE KILLER: Once I have connected a bluetooth keyboard, the on-screen stylus keyboard and thumb keyboard no longer work. Even when the BT keyboard is put away and turned off, attempts to use the stylus keyboard produce only a black bar at the bottom of I have yet to see this, thankfully I also have a #3: 3. Sometimes, when I switch the keyboard on, the first couple letters I type cause the entire tablet to halt for a second, minimizes all the applications, and the desktop applets disappear. (It reminds me of when explorer.exe crashes on a Win2k/XP machine). A reboot brings everything back. Until then, the device seems to operate well enough, but I try to reboot asap. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Is OS2006 still supported?
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 06:39:10PM -0400, Don Birdsall wrote: Question: Is there any advantage for me to upgrade the OS to the last that will run on this machine which I guess is the Hacker Edition? Canola was not trivial for me to install on OS2007HE. I got it working with some excellent help from this mailing list, but it was more involved than you might be looking for. Comment: If I were to upgrade to something newer I doubt it would be an 810. The new ultra-portables with 9 inch screens are becoming available. They cost only a little more and will run a regular Linux distro. Always depends on what you need. I loved my 770, recently upgraded to an 800 and love it even more. There is a lot of room for improvement, sure, but there are great apps available for it, it's more stable, and the added speed makes it morereliable to task switch with multiple apps open. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: BECOMEROOT
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 04:01:45AM +0200, sebastian maemo wrote: 2008/4/15, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can install lots of applications in my cellphone (also a Nokia). But I can install only a few applications in the 770, unless I do a (non-trivial) Can you? I have an S60 phone and -although there are a number of applications for it- most of them are either 1) non-free (in code or cost), and 2) require a special signature, without which they are very difficult to install. Now, the package I need is gone to another folder. A folder I'm supposed not to check because I'm using mistral distribution... That's fucking nonsense. I see this attitude as completely unproductive. I am sorry your 770 does not do as much as you want it to, but, please, the raving is not helpful, nor does it make a good representation for the community. I loved my 770 and used the hacker edition for quite some time. As you have realized, however, it became much more difficult to keep up with the newer apps while tethered to the older operating system. You have to realize two things about the 770: 1) it was the first edition of the IT. Anytime you willingly step into version 1.0, you become a beta tester and will be subject to all types of difficulties not necessarily expected. This is as true for new electronics as it is for first run cars. 2) the 770 is now an outdated model. I loved mine and have only recently moved to an 800. I love OS2008, with the flash support, video, and easy installation of apps like canola. But it was a necessary move. If I were consent to do a little rss, web, IM, and gizmo calls, I would stick with the 770, but like you, I want more, more, more out of my internet tablet. I want to try all the differnt applications and that requires the newer operating system. There's a chaos in deb packages maintaining and distribution... It's obviously Nokia's fault... Or maybe it's my fault because I've bought a Once you start trying to run *any* third party app, it does become something of a chaos. Even on my 800, the catalogs (repos) have become somewhat chaotic, yet still manageable. I think that I'll be able to get my 770 booting again from MMC, but this kind of things should never happen. At least to a simple end user... And here, as I see it, is the root of your problem. When you start doing things like booting from MMC, you have left the realm of simple end user and become a hacker. Welcome to the club! It is fun, rewarding, and frustrating. But to claim to be a simple end user, you would not even try to install applications like BecomeRoot or apps that might require root privileges. An end user is someone like a friend of mine at work; I flashed her device to OS2008 and she remains within the apps browsable through Application Manager. When you want to be restrained by your device, then the Apple iPhone is the right thing for you. When you want the -sometimes difficult- ability to extend your device beyond the imaginings of even its developers, then something like the maemo-based IT, or an S60 phone is for you. Pros and cons to both sides, but that is the simple presentation. enjoy hacking on your 770, you are definitely in the club now! K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions
Terminal is installed by default. I have GPE cal, etc. running fine on my OS2008. Also got Ermining to work, and it is syncing my calendar w/ gCal like a charm. gainroot works. Installed it on a friend's device I upgraded for her. For me, I just install openssh and login as root. cheers and hope all si well after your accident, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Support for external screen
Funny you should ask. I was just perusing the S60 blogs, and there was a link to the NoBounds project on the internettablettalk.com forums. Give it a search, there's a video, and it looks to be what you are looking for. (sadly, the video is not working on my tablet, so you may need to unt up a desktop machine to view it) hope that helps, K On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 07:48:51PM +0300, Pekka Niemelä wrote: Hi everybody, I'm really sorry if this question is a FAQ or something, I've tried to look with google but haven't found anything conclusive. The thing is, I have a Nokia N800, which is really cool, thanks for the good work. It does quite a lot of strange things I wouldn't expect from an embedded device to be sure, it's almost like a general purpose computer in that regard. Anyways, my question is, that have somebody tinkered with the internals of the N800 (I know this will void any warranty), and managed to attach somekind of connectors for an external display to the machine? I'm not entirely up-to-date about how an video signal is generated and sent to the display. Even if this is an digital transmission, I'm pretty sure there has to be somekind of high frequency signal involved. Has anyone pondered about how this could be done? Somebody who is more inclined about the electronics side of things? thanks, and best regards, Pekka ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions
And, lastly, for the applications that require no changes, e.g. no new binaries, will they show up after I upgrade or do I have to re-install them? You'll have to reinstall them. When upgrading within a major release (e.g. from 2.2007.50-2 to 2.2007.51-3) you can use the backup function to backup and then reinstall everything. However, when upgrading from one major release to another (e.g. OS2007 to OS2008), you'll probably I was able to restore my bookmarks from an OS2007HE running on a 770 to a OS2008 running on an n800. I didn't really have anything else I wanted to restore, but the bookmark restore worked perfectly. I have heard about problems when trying to restore settings, however. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GPE Google calendar
Swaying a bit from the topic, but this was just posted to #800 on jaiku: Maemo Sync Packages http://fl0rian.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/maemo-sync-packages/ Looks a bit rough, but it is always nice to see progress in this area. A frontend will go a long way to what people have been asking for. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Flash Full Screen on n810/800??
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:53:54PM +1100, Tim wrote: Has anyone run Flash (or YouTube, same thing) full screen on N810/800? If you view YouTube videos using Canola2, you can tap once on the video and it will switch to full screen. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GPE Google calendar
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 01:25:46PM -0400, Larry Battraw wrote: There's a second option: using gpesyncd and opensync but I've not tried it before and I belive it works with the Evolution Email/PIM software instead. Just something to look for when trying to find a way to make it happen. I Just thinking out loud here: Does open/gpesync use SyncML? If so, would it be possible to use goosync, which appears to be compatible with SyncML, to do the syncing directly with gCal, eliminating the need to go through Evolution? K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GPE Google calendar
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 02:19:42PM -0400, James Knott wrote: Ryan Pavlik wrote: Kevin T. Neely wrote: On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 01:25:46PM -0400, Larry Battraw wrote: There's a second option: using gpesyncd and opensync but I've not tried it before and I belive it works with the Evolution Email/PIM software instead. Just something to look for when trying to find a way to make it happen. I Just thinking out loud here: Does open/gpesync use SyncML? If so, would it be possible to use goosync, which appears to be compatible with SyncML, to do the syncing directly with gCal, eliminating the need to go through Evolution? OpenSync is pretty powerful - the instructions I wrote up (and that appear to be fairly popular now) are specific to Evolution, but only in one step. With a one-line change, a visitor offered a suggestion that However, I'm not looking to sync with Evolution or KDE-PIM. I want to sync with Google calendar. That was kind of my idea. If the opensync option supports SyncML, then it ought to be able to use goosync to directly sync the info with Google. Also, they just announced support for syncing tasks today, so gpe-todo might work, as well. Let's call that Phase 2. :) K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 built-in flash: unreliable?
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 01:52:10PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote: I'm now trying to see if I can find a safe partition size that I can use without losing my data. I initially thought this might be related to https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2802 It seems like the tablets are plagued by similar -but not necessarily the same- issue. I had something similar happen with my 770 a while back, and I've seen other posts to this list the gist of which, at least, is basically the same. Were you writing data from your pc to the tablet's memory card via USB when this happened, or downloading via network? In my case, it was while downloading an album or two worth of mp3 files. After being mounted read-only, the tablet rebooted. I put the card in my laptop, copied the data, and reformatted the card. I haven't had any problems since, but I do worry about it. As a side note, what would the proper way to format and prepare these cards be? Especially if one has used the card in a different system (a phone or mp3 player) and want to make it more maemo tablet friendly. thanks, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Adding internet content to Canola
I have beta 7 installed for Canola2. I am unable to add internet content (photo feeds, podcasts, etc.) I tried to add my Flickr photo stream using the rss link at the bottom of my page, Canola gave me an error saying it couldn't find anything. Likewise, I tried to add the splendidtable.org podcast, and failed: http://americanpublicmedia.publicradio.org/podcasts/xml/splendid_table/kitchen_questions.xml As I am running canola on a 770, it is difficult for me to use the switch to browser, then switch back to canola to add links. Is there a simple text config file I could edit on my laptop? Maybe just pull links out of an OPML file and drop them in there? I know this is a more hacker-ish way of getting the links in there, but hey! I'm running OS2007HE. thanks in advance, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Someone with an IT2006 on Nokia 770 please help...
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 10:36:13AM -0600, david feldman wrote: Ryan and I have been exchanging posts about a missing bluetooth control icon my Nokia 770 with IT2006 upgrade. Can someone with this device look at theirs and tell me if there is a control dialog for Bluetooth? I am trying to set my device to discoverable state. I only have the one device and don't have access to any other. Sorry, I've long since upgraded my 770 to OS2007HE. IIRC, the bluetooth status icon in the upper bar only appears when you are bluetooth connected (like to a phone or keyboard). And it pretty much only allows you to disconnect. All the relevant settings were in the control panel. I've been reading the posts and am surprised they haven't included the answer, namely, to turn BT on and make the device discoverable. Then to always allow connections or something like that. cheers and good luck! K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Canola2 Beta6 and Beta7
Just a quick note, running OS2007HE, I was able to (using the comment out all repos other than the canola ones, and running update) upgrade to the latest canola: Preparing to replace canola2 2.0.0~beta5-maemo4 (using .../canola2_2.0.0~beta7-maemo1_all.deb) ... so that all seems to be good and well. First impressions: seems to work just as well as before. Haven't given it a real spin, but I thought this time I'd try the photostreams. I am having problems adding my flickr rss feed to it. I copied the URL from the Flickr page, and then pasted it in, but Canola reports that there is nothing available at that URL. thanks! K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Internal Memory Read Only?
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:45:54AM -0500, Scott Carr wrote: Quoting Ryan Pavlik [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, there are two different internal memories - the 256 system and the 2gb fake internal card with map data. (I have no idea how to get map data back, presumably from within the program. I know it can be I am talking about the 2gb card with the Map info, etc. It is saying readonly filesystem, for some reason. Also, I can't install any new applications or update either. I believe those tasks make use of the 2gb card as well. This sounds similar to my problem I posted to the list at the first of the year. That thread was MMC Read only or something like that. I'm running OS2007HE on a 770 and my 2GB MMC card suddenly went Read-only. I blamed it on the kernel not being patched with the improved driver (your OS2008 wouldn't suffer from this, I think) but it actually happened one more time after patching, so I never determined -for sure- the cause of the problem. To fix it, I had to run nkdosfs from my laptop on the memory card to reformat it. I ended up with only 1GB of space on the card, but I attribute that to it being a cheap card from Hong Kong that likely wasn't 2GB in the first place. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: strange hardbutton behavior
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 02:00:33PM +0200, Eero Tamminen wrote: Hi, ext Paul Gear wrote: Kevin T. Neely wrote: The behavior of the hard buttons on my tablet has changed and I am not sure why. Before, if I clicked the home button, i would get a list of currently open windows. Now, when i press it, all the open windows minimize. Also, the power button immediately turns the device off instead of opening the lock keys/shut off/offline choices. It sounds like your keys somehow get stuck down. Home key has different behaviour with long and short presses. I do not think so. They feel no different than they did before. The power off upon pressing the power button is instantaneous. The tablet immediately makes the light plonk sound and shuts off. The buttons still have solid tactile feedback when depressed. Thanks! K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
