Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup
Toss a bunch of sand bags into the trunk and then try to reach highway speeds. Might have a few in the rear foot wells. 400 lb ought to give the car a work out. On Sunday, April 2, 2006, at 03:06 PM, archer wrote: archer wrote: Steve Auto Clinics in Zambia have a long and seemingly thorough discussion of EGT versus engine life: http://www.steves.co.za/Engine_Protection_Units_1.html From reading it I get the impression that the typical Italian Tuneup might be somewhat risky. I've NEVER heard of an unmodified Mercedes diesel burning up from running at permissible loads. If it's dangerous, Mercedes either prevents it or tells you to NOT do it. All of the melted engines I know of came after people defeated the systems that controlled power output. I've NEVER heard of a Mercedes turbodiesel burning up from running flat out and I've driven dozens of 'em that way.! Marshall --- In a previous article about Italian tuneups you wrote: ...The chain stretch should be below 5 degrees or so, the valves should be properly adjusted, the air and fuel filters should be verifiably clean, and there should be clean and it would probably be best if the injection pump timing is known to be pretty close to correct (within a couple of degrees). http://articles.mbz.org/engine/diesel/italian/ If one or all of these conditions are not met, does that mean a turbodiesel could self destruct in your opinion? Note: I'm not trying to prove you wrong by any means. I'm simply trying to work out a method whereby those of us who are a long way from mountain grades can do the equivalent of an Italian tuneup. Some of us on this group cannot afford to blow up an engine, but we would still like to make our engines run better and more economically. Gerry Archer ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] a shameless plug
Found on [EMAIL PROTECTED] job Rick. Luther Thanks Luther, Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] a shameless plug
You must want one of the bigger Iowa pork chops at the OkieQ! On 4/5/06, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found on [EMAIL PROTECTED] job Rick. Luther Thanks Luther, Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron
I was looking for something on octane and tripped over http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/diesel/ and of course the timeline for low sulfer diesel http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/diesel/ulsd.shtml John 1983 300TDt 362k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 164k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] 300td timing chain issues
Found a 3/16 punch in with the leather tools. Don't believe I've ever had a 1/8 though. Will have to order one. GerryA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] one made for a 1/8 inch rivet would do. The one I have used is for 3/16 rivets, but it is too big for the timing chains. I like them because the hole is used to make sure the links are tight before you peen the rivet. At 04:27 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote: Probably have to buy the chain first, measure the diameter of the rivet, and then order the punch tool; wouldn't I? GerryA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did the riveting in the car on a 603. it should be even easier on a 616/617. There is also a punch tool made for peening rivets that has a hole the size of the rivet and a dimple to peen the rivet. I would bet that Motion Industries or a similar industrial drive supplier can sell one to you for the MB chain. This is handy because it allows you to keep the striking hammer away from the front surface of the head. It requires at least three hands though. The secret of riveting the chain in the car is to use lots of little taps. I probably tapped each pin 50 times or so. Using taps also keeps you from damaging the sprocket or the head surfaces. Peening a rivet is about lots of little taps, not one or two whacks. YMMV All the older engines i have done had a master link that I used, rather than peening. Loren
Re: [MBZ] 300td timing chain issues
What was the difference between your black 200D and the Hawaiian 200D? GerryA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] My 200D is black My wife would never drive it. She drove the Hawaiian 200D. She did like the 240D, and liked her 230TE better and now likes her 300TD very much. She does not want anything but an MB either now. At 04:40 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote: Mine was white. My wife wouldn't drive it when I brought it home; said it looked like an ugly ambulance. I finally persuaded her to drive it around the block. She wouldn't give it back and wouldn't drive anything but MBs the rest of her life. I still have her '83 240D (showroom condition) which I am thinking of selling or trading for one of those 40 mpg 190Ds. GerryA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] 110s were/are great cars. Between the noise, the fins and the big ol grille, they were always head-turners. 33 mpg combined with 27 cent fuel made for cheap travelling. At 03:57 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote: I got my '67 200D about 1972 and sold it about 1987. The speedo was broken when I got it, but it probably had over 400,000 miles on it when it was sold. I still miss the 33 mpg it got driving around town. Do you use the flat or the round end of the BIG hammer as a buck bar? The round end of mine has a small flat spot on the round end GerryA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I forgot to mention the BIG (16-24 oz) hammer behind the link as an anvil, as Jim mentioned. Use a 6-8 oz ball peen. Yeah, if you know the principle of cold riveting is lots of blows with a fairly light hammer, then you can do it with no problem. I have no intention of spending 180-200 bucks for a special tool. When did you get your 200D? When did you get rid of it. I got my 62 190 D in 1971 and sold it in 1972. Bought my 200D in 72 and still have it. Bought and junked or sold several others in the meantime. On Dec 7, 1991 I bought the Hawaiian 200D in Hawaii Kai and then we put the OM 616 in it in 98. It is my son's car now. My original 200D is still the most stable car in all weather conditions I have ever driven. But the SDL is sure nice!
[MBZ] We can all just throw our Macs away
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/ WTF! If I wanted that garbage on my computer I would have gotten a dell -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup
You might have something there. I knew a farmer who used his old 200D to take as many bags of feed as the car would hold to his cattle way out in the field. He took the seats out and piled feed sacks up to the roof and in the trunk. He started using it because his pickup truck kept breaking suspension parts. The 200D never broke anything. GerryA - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Toss a bunch of sand bags into the trunk and then try to reach highway speeds. Might have a few in the rear foot wells. 400 lb ought to give the car a work out. archer wrote: Steve Auto Clinics in Zambia have a long and seemingly thorough discussion of EGT versus engine life: http://www.steves.co.za/Engine_Protection_Units_1.html From reading it I get the impression that the typical Italian Tuneup might be somewhat risky. I've NEVER heard of an unmodified Mercedes diesel burning up from running at permissible loads. If it's dangerous, Mercedes either prevents it or tells you to NOT do it. All of the melted engines I know of came after people defeated the systems that controlled power output. I've NEVER heard of a Mercedes turbodiesel burning up from running flat out and I've driven dozens of 'em that way.! Marshall --- In a previous article about Italian tuneups you wrote: ...The chain stretch should be below 5 degrees or so, the valves should be properly adjusted, the air and fuel filters should be verifiably clean, and there should be clean and it would probably be best if the injection pump timing is known to be pretty close to correct (within a couple of degrees). http://articles.mbz.org/engine/diesel/italian/ If one or all of these conditions are not met, does that mean a turbodiesel could self destruct in your opinion? Note: I'm not trying to prove you wrong by any means. I'm simply trying to work out a method whereby those of us who are a long way from mountain grades can do the equivalent of an Italian tuneup. Some of us on this group cannot afford to blow up an engine, but we would still like to make our engines run better and more economically. Gerry Archer
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron
excellent links! thanks! Vehicles not specifically designed for use with S15 (ULSD) may use either S15 (ULSD) or S500 (500 ppm) diesel. So does this mean that we will actually be able to find S500 pumps around? That would be great. If not, will a constant use of a lubricity additive be needed? Chris John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking for something on octane and tripped over http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/diesel/ and of course the timeline for low sulfer diesel http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/diesel/ulsd.shtml John 1983 300TDt 362k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 164k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 06 00:07:02 2006 Received: from web30012.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.201.215]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRI1e-0007WI-Dz for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:07:02 + Received: (qmail 9432 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Apr 2006 00:06:58 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3iy8wiBeLgnBNAQXuCKqjMpQKw3egJMfjV5+Sz0nBhvD1LwxEVNGRPQeN16TXz33BVHoe3dp7X90Ww+V8vK412QJTOCQOybbU4NK4HNT6iJ0ZYReA38st8FFOKq+5AqE0KoEGG367Wibz9ZSZ2hI6SwtAtSvWemFelbn7ky44M8= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [67.52.19.222] by web30012.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:06:58 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Elsbett (was veggie emergency fuel) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:07:03 - Wow, that is bad. I contacted them a while back with a question and got a very short answer. Too bad. Thanks for giving me the whole story. Now there's one less option! Christopher dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience with Elsbett was actually rather bad. I shipped him my injectors so he could replace the nozzles and increase the firing pressure. He (probably) swapped the nozzles, but left the firing pressure unchanged. I had sent him the set of injectors I replaced because they were nailing so badly. When I got them back, and later verified on a pressure tester, they were still firing way under pressure. At that point, Elsbett stopped responding to my emails. I sent him 10 emails over a month's time and have not heard from him since. His tech support is non-existent and his Kit had little documentation (1 page with pictures) and was a bit above my level of understanding at the time. None of the components were labeled - which left me guessing which of 4 different hoses were to be used for what. I eventually figured out that 2 of the hoses were the wrong ID for the connectors he provided. He also shorted me on the lugs for the relay sockets (you have to assemble them yourself). I muddled through and am still using the stock injectors. I've since swapped out most of his kit for better components. The fact of the matter is that these cars (Mercedes) are very tolerant of running increased viscosity fuel and I'd suggest buying the pieces parts and doing it yourself. Ebay and McMaster are wonderful sources for parts. There are many free resources of information available. Hope this helps -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 On 4/4/06, Christopher McCann wrote:
Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel
Hahaha, too easy! I mean Lake Ontario! Jeff Zedic Toronto
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron
Christopher McCann wrote: excellent links! thanks! Vehicles not specifically designed for use with S15 (ULSD) may use either S15 (ULSD) or S500 (500 ppm) diesel. So does this mean that we will actually be able to find S500 pumps around? That would be great. If not, will a constant use of a lubricity additive be needed? By 2009 (I think) there will be NO S500! What are you trying to lubricate? Mercedes pumps don't need any more lubrication then the motor oil provides. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] We can all just throw our Macs away
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/ WTF! If I wanted that garbage on my computer I would have gotten a dell A friend of mine tells me that if you want the very fastest notebook PC you need to get an Intel Macbook and coerce it into doing Windows or Linux (whatever). Myself, I think OS X is just fine! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup
- Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Toss a bunch of sand bags into the trunk and then try to reach highway speeds. Might have a few in the rear foot wells. 400 lb ought to give the car a work out. I once had fifteen 500' spools of siamese video cable in my 300D. That's about 500 pounds. It didn't change the ride as much as you'd think, but the ride height was affected pretty noticably. I'm sure acceleration was affected, but I suspect adding weight doesn't change the engine load at a steady speed very much. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
[MBZ] Jim Cathey needs this
http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/147294413.html SD with body issue -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Seriously OT:Re: We can all just throw our Macs away
The Power Supply on my IIGS failed, and I once had to replace a PS on a IIe. We just scrapped a imac 800 cause it would not boot and the MB sound had failed after only a couple of months. That is over 20 years. I am excited about the WInders option on a Macbook. It will allow me to dual boot, and therefore, I can run Macs again and not be tied to windows for everything, but still have winders for when i need it. Just wish I could afford a 2 grand laptop Speaking of self-destroying, I have spent many hours in the past week with a self destructing XP machine that would not allow anyone to log in, because it claimed it had to be activated. Once you click OK to activate it, the activation wizard comes up and says you can't activate it because it has already been activated! (it had been activated on installation) There have been no hardware or software changes since XP, Office and MS small Biz accounting were loaded a few months ago. It worked fin the prior week, Monday it would not allow anyone to log in. I spend hours on the phone with MS tech support, and tried repairing from cd multiple times before I even got to tech support. Anyone want to guess the final word from the mothership? There is a reason why i prefer 2000 over XP At 07:19 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote: Gee, now I can run a slower, buggier, virus infested self destroying OS on my Mac! Hurrah! Back to OS 9 for me (hehe). Next big hack is going to be the killer, though -- the software work-around to run OS X on a PC! Now that I could go for! Note to the uninitiated -- I have NEVER had a board or component failure on a Mac (up to 15 years old) other than on monitor blowing and a dead MB from repeated lightening strikes on my phone line, and in that case I only lost the serial ports, everything else works fine! Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] We can all just throw our Macs away
I told JohnnyB that yesterday. You guys weren't paying attention: You might consider purchasing what is currently the world's fastest Windows laptop, a Macbook. Yep! Macbook! http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/06/03/23/1717259.shtml There is a patch out that allows you to have a dual boot Macbook; OSX for efficiency, or Windows when you must. Seems like a good solution to me. And you also get a very nice laptop in the deal. He needs to run winders for FEMA, but prefers to work efficiently the rest of the time. I have been drooling over the macbooks for some time now. At 07:55 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote: http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/ WTF! If I wanted that garbage on my computer I would have gotten a dell A friend of mine tells me that if you want the very fastest notebook PC you need to get an Intel Macbook and coerce it into doing Windows or Linux (whatever). Myself, I think OS X is just fine! -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Seriously OT:Re: We can all just throw our Macs away
Anyone want to guess the final word from the mothership? There is a reason why i prefer 2000 over XP Yeah. Buy another copy and re-install it. That would be my guess. I have found oem copy's of xp pro for under 75 bucks. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] Seriously OT:Re: We can all just throw our Macs away
- Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speaking of self-destroying, I have spent many hours in the past week with a self destructing XP machine that would not allow anyone to log in, because it claimed it had to be activated. Once you click OK to activate it, the activation wizard comes up and says you can't activate it because it has already been activated! (it had been activated on installation) There have been no hardware or software changes since XP, Office and MS small Biz accounting were loaded a few months ago. It worked fin the prior week, Monday it would not allow anyone to log in. I spend hours on the phone with MS tech support, and tried repairing from cd multiple times before I even got to tech support. Anyone want to guess the final word from the mothership? They told you to buy a new copy of XP and load it on the PC; replacing the bad copy and saving your data? GerryA
Re: [MBZ] 300D Bundtcake Rims
I dont throw them away anymore, people will buy them on ebay jlervine wrote: ---Original Message--- From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I had bundt wheels, mine never got dirty from brake dust - they still had the factory inner liners between the wheels and the brakes, and so the wheels still looked pristine. The liners were metal (maybe aluminum?) and not that thick, but they took all the abuse from the brake dust. Maybe these liners are still available. Those weren't factory. Those are Kleen Wheels. Two of my cars came with them installed. The first time the tires came off, the liners went in the garbage. John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] a shameless plug
cool, maybe that is why we had a bunch of new people sign up today. Luther Gulseth wrote: Found on [EMAIL PROTECTED] job Rick. Luther Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:30:39 -0500 From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: car issues??? I am a member of an email list dedicated to Mercedes diesels. You can get all the help you need here... http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net There are two fuel filters on your Benz. A clear pre-filter and a larger spin on filter. They both need replaced. Bio-diesel is a VERY effective solvent and will clean the inside of your fuel system, among other things, very well. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Damn, it's cold
Temp for one 2 week period at Sondrestromfjord, Greenland was -55F; chill factor = -90F. My new USAF 78 Ford crewcab pickup ran continuously for the 2 weeks. 'Had to breathe slowly and carefully not to freeze/hurt throat and lungs. Yes, spit froze before hitting grnd. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Cheap W124 300D
Well its still cheap enough I suppose if you could do your own work. Tony Wirtel wrote: Kaleb posted this car http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-4-Dr-300D-Tu-NO-RESERVE-1987-MERCEDES-BENZ-300D-T_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6330QQitemZ4627171297QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW originally. Saw it today- this is a gen-u-ine POS that has been run down hard. Those pictures make the dirty interior look better than it is. Didn't drive it, but found that the glow light didn't light. It started, but ROUGH for a good 30 seconds at about 35 degrees F. Driver seat springs shot, window regulator bad, steering wheel had a chunk knawed out at the top. In the engine compartment had a leaking injection pump, power steering lines and other stuff. HOWEVER, according to the seller, they checked with an MB dealer and found that the tranny has less than 10k miles on it. So if you need a tranny that comes with a car, well, here you are. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 300td timing chain issues
I have always just used a ball peen hammer.
archer wrote:
It looks like Loren has convinced me I can do it with a ball peen hammer.
Thanks for the reference to Mercedesshop. It's good to know tools can be
rented someplace besides Performance Products.
GerryA
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Gerry,
I agree - it would *definately* be difficult to do it while in the car.
The
only reason I was able to do it the way I did way because the engine was
disassembled (the crank was out) which allowed me to insert the TC in one
whole piece.
It can be rented at -
http://www.mercedesshop.com/diy/mb_tools/mb_tools.html
There's probably other places where it can be rented but I didn;t spend
much
time searching, There used to be a list member who loaned the tool but I
think he left the list - but I may be wrong - I'll look thru my favorites
to
see what I can find -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] 300td timing chain issues
More good news. Thanks. GerryA - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have always just used a ball peen hammer. archer wrote: It looks like Loren has convinced me I can do it with a ball peen hammer. Thanks for the reference to Mercedesshop. It's good to know tools can be rented someplace besides Performance Products. GerryA
Re: [MBZ] Seriously OT:Re: We can all just throw our Macs away
Close! They said to wipe the drive and reload all the software. I had already tried any tricks they were aware of before I called. So, the activation scheme locks up the computer and you are screwed, because Bill takes the stance that everyone is a thief. (it was not an OEM preinstall) I am not sure how many times it was escalated. I think it was twice. I think there were about 8 people involved from MS. I have always stayed away from MS support, other than what's online. Been able to fix everything else one way or another. When this has happened before, I just reloaded the OS. But on this machine, with the accounting, I wanted to try to save it, but that was a waste of time. At 08:53 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote: Anyone want to guess the final word from the mothership? There is a reason why i prefer 2000 over XP Yeah. Buy another copy and re-install it. That would be my guess. I have found oem copy's of xp pro for under 75 bucks. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] brake schmutz
A simple hosing off of the wheels about once a month is all that is required to keep the wheels looking good. A simple hosing off??? What's your idea of looking good', anyway? Water does not wash off brake dust. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Damn, it's cold
what are you doing in greenland?! On 4/5/06, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Temp for one 2 week period at Sondrestromfjord, Greenland was -55F; chill factor = -90F. My new USAF 78 Ford crewcab pickup ran continuously for the 2 weeks. 'Had to breathe slowly and carefully not to freeze/hurt throat and lungs. Yes, spit froze before hitting grnd. Wilton ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] We can all just throw our Macs away
On 4/5/06 7:55 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine tells me that if you want the very fastest notebook PC you need to get an Intel Macbook and coerce it into doing Windows or Linux (whatever). Myself, I think OS X is just fine! -- Jim This is true. And Apple this a disclaimer on its site: Word to the Wise Windows running on a Mac is like Windows running on a PC. That means it¹ll be subject to the same attacks that plague the Windows world. So be sure to keep it updated with the latest Microsoft Windows security fixes. -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (101k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +--
Re: [MBZ] MB's funeral pyre
http://www.ehowa.com/showpicture.shtml?image=burningmercedes.jpg this is why we need to keep the engine clean and check for leaks. Or just normal behavior for the new mercedes MBs don't have engineered in oil leaks anymore. And you don't have to worry about running the oil level an inch down on the stick. That SL undoubtedly developed a fuel leak. What I can't understand is why the doors and trunk aren't open after all the belongings were removed. BTW, for those who tend to panic, next year's V-6 is a gasoline direct injection engine. 3.5L, 293hp. RLE
Re: [MBZ] for number watchers
for 100 years On Tuesday, April 4, 2006, at 06:46 AM, BillR wrote: On Wednesday of next week, at two minutes and three seconds after 1:00 in the morning, the time and date will be: 01:02:03 04/05/06. That won't ever happen again. BillR ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] for number watchers
or 2106 On Tuesday, April 4, 2006, at 08:49 AM, BillR wrote: Make that tomorrow, and as was pointed out this will happen again - in 3006. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] for number watchers Wednesday of what week??? On 4/4/06, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday of next week, at two minutes and three seconds after 1:00 in the morning, the time and date will be: 01:02:03 04/05/06. That won't ever happen again. BillR ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup
Why is the word Italian used to cure a problem? Can *4r3$ be used to cause the problem in the first place??? Bill 1981 300 TD Not a Italian archer wrote: You might have something there. I knew a farmer who used his old 200D to take as many bags of feed as the car would hold to his cattle way out in the field. He took the seats out and piled feed sacks up to the roof and in the trunk. He started using it because his pickup truck kept breaking suspension parts. The 200D never broke anything. GerryA - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Toss a bunch of sand bags into the trunk and then try to reach highway speeds. Might have a few in the rear foot wells. 400 lb ought to give the car a work out. archer wrote: Steve Auto Clinics in Zambia have a long and seemingly thorough discussion of EGT versus engine life: http://www.steves.co.za/Engine_Protection_Units_1.html From reading it I get the impression that the typical Italian Tuneup might be somewhat risky. I've NEVER heard of an unmodified Mercedes diesel burning up from running at permissible loads. If it's dangerous, Mercedes either prevents it or tells you to NOT do it. All of the melted engines I know of came after people defeated the systems that controlled power output. I've NEVER heard of a Mercedes turbodiesel burning up from running flat out and I've driven dozens of 'em that way.! Marshall --- In a previous article about Italian tuneups you wrote: ...The chain stretch should be below 5 degrees or so, the valves should be properly adjusted, the air and fuel filters should be verifiably clean, and there should be clean and it would probably be best if the injection pump timing is known to be pretty close to correct (within a couple of degrees). http://articles.mbz.org/engine/diesel/italian/ If one or all of these conditions are not met, does that mean a turbodiesel could self destruct in your opinion? Note: I'm not trying to prove you wrong by any means. I'm simply trying to work out a method whereby those of us who are a long way from mountain grades can do the equivalent of an Italian tuneup. Some of us on this group cannot afford to blow up an engine, but we would still like to make our engines run better and more economically. Gerry Archer ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] We can all just throw our Macs away
On 5-Apr-06, at 7:25 PM, George Gregory wrote: This is true. And Apple this a disclaimer on its site: Word to the Wise Windows running on a Mac is like Windows running on a PC. That means it’ll be subject to the same attacks that plague the Windows world. So be sure to keep it updated with the latest Microsoft Windows security fixes. That's for ignorant macintosh users who've never been exposed to the Window's trauma of viruses and pop-up ads extraordinary. I will also note consumer reports rates apple #1 by a huge percentage over #2 for hardware quality support. So buying a nice mac and *only* running XP or Vista someday on it wouldn't be a stupid decision just in order to get nice looking and superb performing hardware. Still I have to wonder if you buy a XP CD who does the support for you? Usually isn't that covered by the poor hardware vendor? PS I keep getting whacked by the fact that consumer reports also says mercedes ranked mucho last in problems with their cars. Although I point out that a friend bought a used 2002 C320? wagon which he still feels after two months of usage the finest automobile he has driven even compared to every 2006/2007 wagon/crossover vehicle he could get his hands on. John 1983 300TDt 372k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 164k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] brake schmutz
Well, I do dry them off after rinsing. I noticed that if I am driving in the rain, the brake dust sticks to the wheel. That happened once to me in the past 2 years. On 4/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A simple hosing off of the wheels about once a month is all that is required to keep the wheels looking good. A simple hosing off??? What's your idea of looking good', anyway? Water does not wash off brake dust. RLE ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit
Re: [MBZ] coolish?
Temp for one 2 week period at Sondrestromfjord, Greenland Sonderstrom. Gee, on my first European trip, we landed at Sondrestrom to refuel on the way from Vancouver to Dusseldorf. 727-100 Thrilling approach up the dead-end fjord. Like flying down a curved hallway. RLE
Re: [MBZ] coolish?
Or into Juneau, AK on Alaska Air. On 4/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Temp for one 2 week period at Sondrestromfjord, Greenland Sonderstrom. Gee, on my first European trip, we landed at Sondrestrom to refuel on the way from Vancouver to Dusseldorf. 727-100 Thrilling approach up the dead-end fjord. Like flying down a curved hallway. RLE ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit
Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk
I am planning on having BiL see if he can weld it up. He likes to hammer and zap metal. Makes his own stuff for the jeeps. So I have to go find a good trunk in a 114/115 and cut it out? Looks like I am headed to harbor freight to get a cordless nibbler On Tuesday, April 4, 2006, at 11:10 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Jim Cathey is my new best friend. Curse Jim. Sorry, dude! When he came over a few weeks ago, he was nice enough to want to check Gump's trunk. We found that there was a lake under the rubber and trunk liner. Lots of rusty looking stuff. Thought I would wait until summer when it got hot and dry to tackle that. That stuff lurks. Sneaks up on ya. How in creation do I deal with the rusted through bit to join the stern back to the rest of the car? Can I have a panel made with the channel and weld that in? It would cover the access to the tank sender The official way is to get a new trunk floor and have it welded in. It can be surprisingly less expensive than you might think, or not. Quotes can be extremely variable, I hit about six body shops before I found the one that fixed the rust in the SL. It got a new trunk floor. Well, part of one. I bought the crash piece and the guy cut it up to get what he needed out of it. His price was substantially less than half of anybody else's. I suggest you explore bodywork purveyors in the low-rent district, wherever that is in your area. Here, it was Hillyard. I've had good luck with auto repair labor in Hillyard. Hungry, and inexpensive. Last time was two weeks ago when I got the 240D's seat cover repaired at an upholstery shop. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Advice on Timing Chain Replacement (was: 300td timing chain issues)
Hi all! I have some questions for the collective group if I may, as I try and understand the diesel timing chain and how it corresponds to the engine tune. Im exactly at 5% stretch on my timing chain in my 82 300t with a stock turbo 617. From what I have been gathering from the various input I have received that this is just a bit much and the timing chain should be replaced. So I have decided to do this. When I do this, should I: Replace the tensionier? Since there is enough wear to stretch the chain 5% I suspect there will be some little slack in the sprockets. So the new chain will not exactly line up at zero when I put it on. So should I suspect it to line up at like 1%? I plan on just crimping with a hammer, (since I have some vague experience with a ball peen) this seems fairly straight forward. I have a small dremel with a grinding disk. Would this tool be enough to grind off the pins to loose the old chain? Ummm Is there anything else I should think of before I try and swap the timing chains? I am new to this, so any info or insight you may have, would be greatly appreciated.! Thanks- Hue- 82 300td helgra 71 280sel lungren --- archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More good news. Thanks. GerryA - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have always just used a ball peen hammer. archer wrote: It looks like Loren has convinced me I can do it with a ball peen hammer. Thanks for the reference to Mercedesshop. It's good to know tools can be rented someplace besides Performance Products. GerryA ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk
So I have to go find a good trunk in a 114/115 and cut it out? Hey, and good luck with that! (I don't think I've ever seen one.) What's new trunk floor metal cost? (Crash part.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] We can all just throw our Macs away
He needs to run winders for FEMA, but prefers to work efficiently the rest of the time. I have been drooling over the macbooks for some time now. And why not run VPC (or equivalent) instead? No dual-booting involved, and the PC junk is never in control enough to be able to hammer the system, only itself. Plenty fast enough for a whole lot of uses. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Jim Cathey needs this
http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/147294413.html Like I need a hole in my, well, whatever. (And which I might get if I brought home yet another POS, since my wife knows where the guns are kept...) _Nothing_ comes in here until at least the 240D leaves, unless it's truly a stunning deal that I can't pass up. (Grudge sale of a flawless 6.9 for $100 by wronged wife, etc.) I bet I could get away with a nice 108/109, because for some reason my wife likes the look of those. When I pointed at the one in Roy as we drove by she said something to the effect of those being nice looking cars. I know: make that a grudge-sale 600! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 300td timing chain issues
No, I just happen to have a chain crimper for this chain. Richard --- archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you rent any other tools, Richard? Front spring compressors, for example? GerryA - Original Message - From: Richard Hattaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will rent the tool for $30. You pay shipping both ways, and pay a deposit of $ 160. Total payment up front from you $ 200, money order. I return a money order for $ 160 when you return the tool in good shape. Richard ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Advice on Timing Chain Replacement (was: 300td timing chain issues)
I believe most of your problem is with the tensioner, although the chain is stretched some. Definitely replace the tensioner. You can peen the connection link as long as you are careful. Same goes for the dremel. just be sure to stuff rags everywhere so no abrasive or grindings get in the engine or oil. the backing for riveting (peening) the pin can be anything, but should be at least twice as heavy as the hammer you are using. A steel bar, a brick of gold (just kidding though it would make an excellent backer) or a larger hammer. as a precaution if dealers are distant, and time is critical, you might want to buy an extra repair link in case you mess up the first try. At 10:03 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote: Hi all! I have some questions for the collective group if I may, as I try and understand the diesel timing chain and how it corresponds to the engine tune. I'm exactly at 5% stretch on my timing chain in my '82 300t with a stock turbo 617. From what I have been gathering from the various input I have received that this is just a bit much and the timing chain should be replaced. So I have decided to do this. When I do this, should I: Replace the tensionier? Since there is enough wear to stretch the chain 5% I suspect there will be some little slack in the sprockets. So the new chain will not exactly line up at zero when I put it on. So should I suspect it to line up at like 1%? I plan on just crimping with a hammer, (since I have some vague experience with a ball peen) this seems fairly straight forward. I have a small dremel with a grinding disk. Would this tool be enough to grind off the pins to loose the old chain? Ummm Is there anything else I should think of before I try and swap the timing chains? I am new to this, so any info or insight you may have, would be greatly appreciated.! Thanks- Hue- 82 300td helgra 71 280sel lungren --- archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More good news. Thanks. GerryA - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have always just used a ball peen hammer. archer wrote: It looks like Loren has convinced me I can do it with a ball peen hammer. Thanks for the reference to Mercedesshop. It's good to know tools can be rented someplace besides Performance Products. GerryA ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Request for 124 EPC data
Hi there, I'm attempting to install late-model (circa '93 400E) leather insert doorpanels in my TD, but apparently those versions use a wider metal upper lip that attach to the felt wiper seal against the window. I need to know the part number for the little metal clips which attach the felt wiper to the door panel. I believe there are 4 of these on the fronts and three on the rear. For extra karmic benefit, could someone send me EPC screenshots of the pages showing how the late-model lower body cladding and rocker panels mount to the body and doors? I'm attempting to install this cladding, but I have no idea what attachment clips are required. Do these screenshots show the part numbers for all those clips? TIA -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (213k) '84 300D (211k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
Re: [MBZ] Advice on Timing Chain Replacement (was: 300td timing chainissues)
You wrote:
I have some questions for the collective group if I
may, as I try and understand the diesel timing chain
and how it corresponds to the engine tune.
I'm exactly at 5% stretch on my timing chain in my
'82 300t with a stock turbo 617.
From what I have been gathering from the various input
I have received that this is just a bit much and the
timing chain should be replaced. So I have decided to
do this.
When I do this, should I:
Replace the tensionier?
I doubt it - the tensioner usually lasts a really long time. How many miles
are on the engine?? Of course, the tensioner is not very expensive and if
you want everything to be as close to On Spec as possible it won't hurt -
but it can always be done later - IIRC it's 2 nuts and the tensioner comes
off if you want to replace it later.
Since there is enough wear to stretch the chain 5% I
suspect there will be some little slack in the
sprockets. So the new chain will not exactly line up
at zero when I put it on. So should I suspect it to
line up at like 1%?
When I replaced mine I did not replace the sprockets and it aligned
perfectly at 0.
I plan on just crimping with a hammer, (since I have
some vague experience with a ball peen) this seems
fairly straight forward.
Make the decision on how to proceed when you have the chain and connecting
link in your hands. And consider that a failed crimp could destroy the
engine. Also consider the place you'll be working and trying to hold a
backing plate in place while you tap-tap-tap with your little hammer - while
making sure the connecting link stays in place as you hold everything and
swing the hammer, gently.
I have a small dremel with a grinding disk. Would
this tool be enough to grind off the pins to loose the
old chain?
Probably - that steel's pretty high quality and your grinding wheels tools
must be up to the task,
Ummm Is there anything else I should think of before
I try and swap the timing chains? I am new to this,
so any info or insight you may have, would be greatly
appreciated.!
Give us a day to think about it --
Good luck - and try to get your mind of it for a little while --
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk
Will POR-15 build up enough for rejoining the two halves of sheet into one? I suspect that it wants to be a bearing piece not just cosmetic. From the muck I ground up while dealing with the rust, I think after one fender bender or trunk crunch, it was coated with spray undercoating. Not that it helped. It just made is sticky. On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 07:53 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: POR15 should be your new best friend. Check out their website, they have a variety of good stuff over there. You could either just glob the paint on if the holes are really tiny and the structure of the metal is not compromised or use it with some fiberglass matte to build up strength. They also make a putty version of the stuff for filling larger areas. I used it to seal a snowmobile gas tank a couple years ago and its been just great. I also used it on a lawnmower deck last spring. I haven't mowed with that yet but after a winter of sitting out in the snow none of the rust has come back. I just wirebrushed the worst of the rust off, use the 2 treatment chemicals and just brushed on the paint. Anywhere its going to be exposed to sunlight you need to topcoat but in a trunk you'd be okay. Be aware also that most normal primer is porus so rust will develop under it just as fast or faster than baremetal. -Curt Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 19:47:48 -0700 From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk To: Mercedes list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Jim Cathey is my new best friend. Curse Jim. When he came over a few weeks ago, he was nice enough to want to check Gump's trunk. We found that there was a lake under the rubber and trunk liner. Lots of rusty looking stuff. Thought I would wait until summer when it got hot and dry to tackle that. Then I decided I ought to look at it further, so today I pulled the liner out and sopped up the water. Really nasty looking rust staining everywhere. Out comes the wire wheel and away I go attacking the dynamat like stuff as well as the gooey rubbery coating. All the way down to bare painted metal or rust. Found a Bunch of pin holes as well as a few larger, though none bigger than a dime. There is a largish black plastic hose that runs from starboard to port in a channel. Guess where the most rust through is. YEP! right there it is mostly rusted all the way through and the tanks seems to just hang from a few paper thin bits of metal. First question - What is the best or quickest method to plug the little holes? I have already used the rust to black primer spray and thought about maybe Bondo or an epoxy coating, then some bedliner for protection. Second question - How in creation do I deal with the rusted through bit to join the stern back to the rest of the car? Can I have a panel made with the channel and weld that in? It would cover the access to the tank sender -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1cent;/min. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 300td timing chain issues
Me too - I did two - a 615 and a 616, in the car. Used an aircraft bucking bar, a small ball peen hammer, and my father's helping hands (one of the cars was his). They both went over another 100K miles without anytiming chain problems. My kids are now driving the 616. On 4/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have always just used a ball peen hammer. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] 300D Bundtcake Rims
Bead blast is the operative phrase. Do not, repeat DO NOT sand blast or garnet or ... just use glass to get the old paint off, then do a good rattle can paint job. The sand will pit the wheels and you will then end up purchasing new ones. I have used a paint solvent and some elbow grease to clean a few sets of wheel. It takes time, but you get a really good feel for the wheel and then you can rattle can paint. About $40 worth of paint and a few days to let it cure and you have really nice looking wheels again. There is another product for dealing with brake dust on wheels. Comes in a silver spray bottle and there are formulas for all manner of metal wheel. It is solvent specific to the metal of the wheel. Eagle One. Etching stuff. Make sure you get the right stuff, or you may as well use brake cleaner. Spray on, hose off. I used it on bundts that I had stripped of paint, but the build up on the back side was just too thick. This got it down to metal after a bit of elbow grease and wire wheel. www.eagleone.com On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 08:11 AM, Loren Faeth wrote: Leave em, Get em bead blasted and painted, or buy now ones. The last 2 choices are about the same price. Personally I prefer steel wheels and hubcaps. At 09:52 AM 4/5/2006, you wrote: I have been negligent in washing.my wheels are looking bad..the rear cleaned up well, but the front ones are not comming clean and it feels rough in some places..some pitting I guess...any suggestions on what to clean them with, to keep from making it worse? I know about the clean wheels but have heard discussions about overheating...some have said not to use, some say ok if slotted..another said if one has a habit of riding the brakes while driving, it is problematic...what to do..I don't have time to clean wheels 3 - 4 times a week.. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Seriously OT:Re: We can all just throw our Macs away
Yeah, mercedes used to the the macintosh of cars. Now macs are becoming the mercedes of computers (later model benz, not our old ones) On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 05:19 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Gee, now I can run a slower, buggier, virus infested self destroying OS on my Mac! Hurrah! Back to OS 9 for me (hehe). Next big hack is going to be the killer, though -- the software work-around to run OS X on a PC! Now that I could go for! Note to the uninitiated -- I have NEVER had a board or component failure on a Mac (up to 15 years old) other than on monitor blowing and a dead MB from repeated lightening strikes on my phone line, and in that case I only lost the serial ports, everything else works fine! Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup
I would believe that having two large football players worth of weight added to your own will increase the load on the engine when you are trying to get it going from stop, or accelerate on the freeway. A full tank is only 160 lb. Dead flat like KS or FL may allow you to flog the engine a bit more than just puttering about town On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 06:05 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Toss a bunch of sand bags into the trunk and then try to reach highway speeds. Might have a few in the rear foot wells. 400 lb ought to give the car a work out. I once had fifteen 500' spools of siamese video cable in my 300D. That's about 500 pounds. It didn't change the ride as much as you'd think, but the ride height was affected pretty noticably. I'm sure acceleration was affected, but I suspect adding weight doesn't change the engine load at a steady speed very much. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Seriously OT:Re: We can all just throw our Macs away
BTDT, and decided to just let her have XP and buy her new disks every year. I will stick with OS X. Took the Gateway laptop back to win98 so it can stop buggering up. Once 2k and/or XP were removed the thing decided to work again. The HP came with 2k and is only used for the epc On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 06:54 PM, archer wrote: - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speaking of self-destroying, I have spent many hours in the past week with a self destructing XP machine that would not allow anyone to log in, because it claimed it had to be activated. Once you click OK to activate it, the activation wizard comes up and says you can't activate it because it has already been activated! (it had been activated on installation) There have been no hardware or software changes since XP, Office and MS small Biz accounting were loaded a few months ago. It worked fin the prior week, Monday it would not allow anyone to log in. I spend hours on the phone with MS tech support, and tried repairing from cd multiple times before I even got to tech support. Anyone want to guess the final word from the mothership? They told you to buy a new copy of XP and load it on the PC; replacing the bad copy and saving your data? GerryA ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] a shameless plug
Oh, I think those were the folks from Mistress Jill's defense league On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 07:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: cool, maybe that is why we had a bunch of new people sign up today. Luther Gulseth wrote: Found on [EMAIL PROTECTED] job Rick. Luther Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:30:39 -0500 From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: car issues??? I am a member of an email list dedicated to Mercedes diesels. You can get all the help you need here... http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net There are two fuel filters on your Benz. A clear pre-filter and a larger spin on filter. They both need replaced. Bio-diesel is a VERY effective solvent and will clean the inside of your fuel system, among other things, very well. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Seriously OT:Re: We can all just throw our Macs away
Back UP. BACK UP, back up. then install a new disk On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 07:12 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Close! They said to wipe the drive and reload all the software. I had already tried any tricks they were aware of before I called. So, the activation scheme locks up the computer and you are screwed, because Bill takes the stance that everyone is a thief. (it was not an OEM preinstall) I am not sure how many times it was escalated. I think it was twice. I think there were about 8 people involved from MS. I have always stayed away from MS support, other than what's online. Been able to fix everything else one way or another. When this has happened before, I just reloaded the OS. But on this machine, with the accounting, I wanted to try to save it, but that was a waste of time. At 08:53 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote: Anyone want to guess the final word from the mothership? There is a reason why i prefer 2000 over XP Yeah. Buy another copy and re-install it. That would be my guess. I have found oem copy's of xp pro for under 75 bucks. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] We can all just throw our Macs away
Those fixes are the cause of more trouble with that darn PC On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 07:25 PM, George Gregory wrote: On 4/5/06 7:55 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine tells me that if you want the very fastest notebook PC you need to get an Intel Macbook and coerce it into doing Windows or Linux (whatever). Myself, I think OS X is just fine! -- Jim This is true. And Apple this a disclaimer on its site: Word to the Wise Windows running on a Mac is like Windows running on a PC. That means it’ll be subject to the same attacks that plague the Windows world. So be sure to keep it updated with the latest Microsoft Windows security fixes. -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (101k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] We can all just throw our Macs away
Last CR I looked at did not list a Benz as a best buy, but had a large number in the car to avoid On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 07:45 PM, John M McIntosh wrote: On 5-Apr-06, at 7:25 PM, George Gregory wrote: This is true. And Apple this a disclaimer on its site: Word to the Wise Windows running on a Mac is like Windows running on a PC. That means it’ll be subject to the same attacks that plague the Windows world. So be sure to keep it updated with the latest Microsoft Windows security fixes. That's for ignorant macintosh users who've never been exposed to the Window's trauma of viruses and pop-up ads extraordinary. I will also note consumer reports rates apple #1 by a huge percentage over #2 for hardware quality support. So buying a nice mac and *only* running XP or Vista someday on it wouldn't be a stupid decision just in order to get nice looking and superb performing hardware. Still I have to wonder if you buy a XP CD who does the support for you? Usually isn't that covered by the poor hardware vendor? PS I keep getting whacked by the fact that consumer reports also says mercedes ranked mucho last in problems with their cars. Although I point out that a friend bought a used 2002 C320? wagon which he still feels after two months of usage the finest automobile he has driven even compared to every 2006/2007 wagon/crossover vehicle he could get his hands on. John 1983 300TDt 372k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 164k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk
I have no idea of cost, I am going to hit Pacific Iron and see what they have in the way of thin sheet metal to form a pan or patch On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 08:19 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: So I have to go find a good trunk in a 114/115 and cut it out? Hey, and good luck with that! (I don't think I've ever seen one.) What's new trunk floor metal cost? (Crash part.) -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] We can all just throw our Macs away
Used to run VPC on a 9500/200 and it was about as fast as having a P5/133. Had it hopped up with ram. No OS X version, so no idea if it runs well on the iMac and what speed. The 6400/G3 400 made it seem about as fast as a 266 PII under OS 8.6 and 384 ram On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 08:21 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: He needs to run winders for FEMA, but prefers to work efficiently the rest of the time. I have been drooling over the macbooks for some time now. And why not run VPC (or equivalent) instead? No dual-booting involved, and the PC junk is never in control enough to be able to hammer the system, only itself. Plenty fast enough for a whole lot of uses. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 300D Bundtcake Rims
I also really like S100 wheel cleaner. Still have some from the beemer. Works well for regular cleaning, not heavy accumulations. Spray on, let is soak and wash off. On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 09:18 PM, redghost wrote: Bead blast is the operative phrase. Do not, repeat DO NOT sand blast or garnet or ... just use glass to get the old paint off, then do a good rattle can paint job. The sand will pit the wheels and you will then end up purchasing new ones. I have used a paint solvent and some elbow grease to clean a few sets of wheel. It takes time, but you get a really good feel for the wheel and then you can rattle can paint. About $40 worth of paint and a few days to let it cure and you have really nice looking wheels again. There is another product for dealing with brake dust on wheels. Comes in a silver spray bottle and there are formulas for all manner of metal wheel. It is solvent specific to the metal of the wheel. Eagle One. Etching stuff. Make sure you get the right stuff, or you may as well use brake cleaner. Spray on, hose off. I used it on bundts that I had stripped of paint, but the build up on the back side was just too thick. This got it down to metal after a bit of elbow grease and wire wheel. www.eagleone.com On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 08:11 AM, Loren Faeth wrote: Leave em, Get em bead blasted and painted, or buy now ones. The last 2 choices are about the same price. Personally I prefer steel wheels and hubcaps. At 09:52 AM 4/5/2006, you wrote: I have been negligent in washing.my wheels are looking bad..the rear cleaned up well, but the front ones are not comming clean and it feels rough in some places..some pitting I guess...any suggestions on what to clean them with, to keep from making it worse? I know about the clean wheels but have heard discussions about overheating...some have said not to use, some say ok if slotted..another said if one has a habit of riding the brakes while driving, it is problematic...what to do..I don't have time to clean wheels 3 - 4 times a week.. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] VPC (was: We can all just throw our Macs away)
On 4/5/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Used to run VPC on a 9500/200 and it was about as fast as having a P5/133. Had it hopped up with ram. No OS X version, so no idea if it runs well on the iMac and what speed. The 6400/G3 400 made it seem about as fast as a 266 PII under OS 8.6 and 384 ram Humph. I wonder what's wrong with my setup. I have VPC 5 running on a 1 Ghz G4 with 1.5 Gb of RAM and OS X 10.3, and Win98 is unusably slow. Like you click a menu title and count the seconds until it drops down. Seriously, it's slower than a 386DX25 I used to have to run Windows 3.1 on. Virus or bad Win98 install or something? Should I wipe the virtual partition and start over? I have been using Macs forever and consider myself pretty good with them, but Windows hates me and this has me stumped. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '99 Sawtooth G4, PowerLogix accelerator, Radeon 8500 '98 Lombard G3 PowerBook Assorted junky sacrificial PCs for specific purposes, like running OBDII diagnostic software
Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk
Don't forget to raid the Goodwill for broken microwaves! ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 4/5/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea of cost, I am going to hit Pacific Iron and see what they have in the way of thin sheet metal to form a pan or patch On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 08:19 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: So I have to go find a good trunk in a 114/115 and cut it out? Hey, and good luck with that! (I don't think I've ever seen one.) What's new trunk floor metal cost? (Crash part.) -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Spotted 190E for sale
Out walking the pooch tonight, I saw a 190E for sale. I have seen this
thing parked in the driveway of its house for some time now, but tonight is
the first time I've seen it out on the street for sale. I don't know the
seller, or anything about it other than that I could see no body damage at
night, and it appears to be gold in color. I know it's nothing special, just
thought of the list when I saw it. Phone number on the sign is 507-281-2046
Also, I have known for some time about a TE station wagon. 123 chassis. ('m
not sure if they're called TE, I just know the diesels are called TD). It's
also in my neighborhood. It's a 123, and in very rough shape. The rear seems
collapsed, and it has rust, etc. It clearly doesn't run. Owner is a neighbor
of a friend. I've never talked to him. I know that wagons are a bit more
coveted, so I thought I'd mention it. I know he at least used to own a 240D
as well, but I haven't seen it for over a year. If anyone is SERIOUSLY
interested, I could ask the guy. But otherwise, I don't think I'd feel like
hassling him.
Brian
83 240D
Re: [MBZ] We can all just throw our Macs away
When I heard the news on the radio today, I knew lots of people would get all worked up. Mac vs. PC reminds me of the Mopar vs. Chevy war that raged in my circles growing up. As a graphic artist, I have used lots of Macs, but some years ago it seems PCs became capable enough to do everything I need to do. So I don't feel much loyalty either way. To me, a computer is a tool - I have never understood the passion. Well, actually, I may begin to understand when I think of the war in terms of cars. I would throw down in defense of Mopars as a kid. I hated Chevys. And Fords did not often even enter the conversation. Guess everyone needs something to root for. Look at avid sports fans, heck, even young gang members. We need something that allows us to say, Hey, this is mine, this is who I am, you got a problem with that? Brian Feeling philosophical tonight On 4/6/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Used to run VPC on a 9500/200 and it was about as fast as having a P5/133. Had it hopped up with ram. No OS X version, so no idea if it runs well on the iMac and what speed. The 6400/G3 400 made it seem about as fast as a 266 PII under OS 8.6 and 384 ram On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 08:21 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: He needs to run winders for FEMA, but prefers to work efficiently the rest of the time. I have been drooling over the macbooks for some time now. And why not run VPC (or equivalent) instead? No dual-booting involved, and the PC junk is never in control enough to be able to hammer the system, only itself. Plenty fast enough for a whole lot of uses. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Spotted 190E for sale
If anyone is SERIOUSLY interested, I could ask the guy. But otherwise, I don't think I'd feel like hassling him. And why is it that everybody always forgets to say _where_ these morsels are, because location, location, location really enters into the picture. (And no, I'm not personally interested.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk
Don't forget to raid the Goodwill for broken microwaves! ;) St. Vinnie's is much better for that sort of thing. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] VPC (was: We can all just throw our Macs away)
Humph. I wonder what's wrong with my setup. I have VPC 5 running on a 1 Ghz G4 with 1.5 Gb of RAM and OS X 10.3, and Win98 is unusably slow. Like you click a menu title and count the seconds until it drops down. I believe VPC 6 is faster than 5, and by more than a bit. I'm using VPC6 on a 233 MHz G3 with 384MB RAM, running 10.2.8, hosting W2k, and it's not (quite) that bad. Usually. But once you're into the EPC or WIS it's fine. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 300D Bundtcake Rims
A pressure washer held just close enough to remove the dirt/brake dust and not the finish did a good job on a set of bundt wheels after spraying them with some kind of cleaner (409?) I forget which one. GerryA - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also really like S100 wheel cleaner. Still have some from the beemer. Works well for regular cleaning, not heavy accumulations. Spray on, let is soak and wash off. On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 09:18 PM, redghost wrote: Bead blast is the operative phrase. Do not, repeat DO NOT sand blast or garnet or ... just use glass to get the old paint off, then do a good rattle can paint job. The sand will pit the wheels and you will then end up purchasing new ones. I have used a paint solvent and some elbow grease to clean a few sets of wheel. It takes time, but you get a really good feel for the wheel and then you can rattle can paint. About $40 worth of paint and a few days to let it cure and you have really nice looking wheels again. There is another product for dealing with brake dust on wheels. Comes in a silver spray bottle and there are formulas for all manner of metal wheel. It is solvent specific to the metal of the wheel. Eagle One. Etching stuff. Make sure you get the right stuff, or you may as well use brake cleaner. Spray on, hose off. I used it on bundts that I had stripped of paint, but the build up on the back side was just too thick. This got it down to metal after a bit of elbow grease and wire wheel.
Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup
Good question-I have thought that German tune up is more appropriate, given the autobahns and the legendary speeds there. FWIW Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gallagher Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup Why is the word Italian used to cure a problem? Can *4r3$ be used to cause the problem in the first place??? Bill 1981 300 TD Not a Italian archer wrote: You might have something there. I knew a farmer who used his old 200D to take as many bags of feed as the car would hold to his cattle way out in the field. He took the seats out and piled feed sacks up to the roof and in the trunk. He started using it because his pickup truck kept breaking suspension parts. The 200D never broke anything. GerryA - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Toss a bunch of sand bags into the trunk and then try to reach highway speeds. Might have a few in the rear foot wells. 400 lb ought to give the car a work out. archer wrote: Steve Auto Clinics in Zambia have a long and seemingly thorough discussion of EGT versus engine life: http://www.steves.co.za/Engine_Protection_Units_1.html From reading it I get the impression that the typical Italian Tuneup might be somewhat risky. I've NEVER heard of an unmodified Mercedes diesel burning up from running at permissible loads. If it's dangerous, Mercedes either prevents it or tells you to NOT do it. All of the melted engines I know of came after people defeated the systems that controlled power output. I've NEVER heard of a Mercedes turbodiesel burning up from running flat out and I've driven dozens of 'em that way.! Marshall --- In a previous article about Italian tuneups you wrote: ...The chain stretch should be below 5 degrees or so, the valves should be properly adjusted, the air and fuel filters should be verifiably clean, and there should be clean and it would probably be best if the injection pump timing is known to be pretty close to correct (within a couple of degrees). http://articles.mbz.org/engine/diesel/italian/ If one or all of these conditions are not met, does that mean a turbodiesel could self destruct in your opinion? Note: I'm not trying to prove you wrong by any means. I'm simply trying to work out a method whereby those of us who are a long way from mountain grades can do the equivalent of an Italian tuneup. Some of us on this group cannot afford to blow up an engine, but we would still like to make our engines run better and more economically. Gerry Archer ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] VPC (was: We can all just throw our Macs away)
On Apr 6, 2006, at 1:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: Windows hates me But OS X loves me. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup
On Apr 6, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Good question-I have thought that German tune up is more appropriate, given the autobahns and the legendary speeds there. FWIW Dwight Giles, Jr It has already been dubbed Italian Tune-Up in the early days of these forums. Ever been to Italy? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 300D Bundtcake Rims
Once the wheels are clean try rubbing them with a fabric softener dryer sheet to keep them clean and free of brake dust. Seems the anti;static stuff works well. Mike - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 5:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D Bundtcake Rims A pressure washer held just close enough to remove the dirt/brake dust and not the finish did a good job on a set of bundt wheels after spraying them with some kind of cleaner (409?) I forget which one. GerryA - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also really like S100 wheel cleaner. Still have some from the beemer. Works well for regular cleaning, not heavy accumulations. Spray on, let is soak and wash off. On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 09:18 PM, redghost wrote: Bead blast is the operative phrase. Do not, repeat DO NOT sand blast or garnet or ... just use glass to get the old paint off, then do a good rattle can paint job. The sand will pit the wheels and you will then end up purchasing new ones. I have used a paint solvent and some elbow grease to clean a few sets of wheel. It takes time, but you get a really good feel for the wheel and then you can rattle can paint. About $40 worth of paint and a few days to let it cure and you have really nice looking wheels again. There is another product for dealing with brake dust on wheels. Comes in a silver spray bottle and there are formulas for all manner of metal wheel. It is solvent specific to the metal of the wheel. Eagle One. Etching stuff. Make sure you get the right stuff, or you may as well use brake cleaner. Spray on, hose off. I used it on bundts that I had stripped of paint, but the build up on the back side was just too thick. This got it down to metal after a bit of elbow grease and wire wheel. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Spotted 190E for sale
Johnson, Nancy 856 11-1/2 St SW Rochester, MN 55902 Courtesy of anywho.com's reverse lookup feature. Dave W If anyone is SERIOUSLY interested, I could ask the guy. But otherwise, I don't think I'd feel like hassling him. And why is it that everybody always forgets to say _where_ these morsels are, because location, location, location really enters into the picture. (And no, I'm not personally interested.) -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel
At -20F don't inhale through your mouth, thats a prescription for a coughing fit. I was born in Caribou, Maine where the week I was born (Feb 7) it never got above -20F. I own 85 acres up there with a little camp on it. My wife and I always talk about going up in the winter to go snowmobiling but the camp doesn't have any insulation in the roof or floor, at -20F I expect it'd be MIGHTY tough to keep warm. Oh my sleeping bag is good to -15F and I'm sure if I put it in another bag I'd be fine its the time it takes to get up in the night and go pee I'd be worried about... -Curt Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 15:53:45 -0400 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kinda like when you have to worry about the oil in your differential freezing solid so that it physically won't move even with the engine's power, or if you shut the door too hard your paint falls off. (: Those are just anecdotes I've heard from people. Personally, the coldest I've done is way north, NY (Canton area, right next to Canada) where it periodically hits 20 below and occasionally 40 below (F). It feels cold here at 15 degrees, but at 20-40 below, it gets to where that first inhalation walking out the door kinda hurts, and you get an instant chill up your pantleg. And you hope your door locks will still move. (I would have been worried about the engine starting were I not using Mobil 1). Most people just leave their cars running at the store when it's that cold. So I bet I've been through colder than most of the typical U.S., but I'm no where's near the worst of it. (: Levi - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 06 14:01:16 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.102] helo=ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRV2y-wm-1B for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:01:16 + Received: from computer (cpe-065-190-170-184.nc.res.rr.com [65.190.170.184]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id k36E10HG008925 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:00:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Damn, it's cold X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:01:16 - Sunil, I was USAF Director of Engineering at Sondrestrom Air Base, Grnlnd, Feb 78-Feb 79. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel
buffalo is on a different lake altogether i grew up in NYC and have spent time in rochester. rochester is MUCH colder. not sure how you figure toronto would be warmer On 4/5/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The beauty of living in Toronto is that we have a huge heat source right at the south end of the city so even though we're farther north, we're almost always warmer than NYC 500 miles south! Buffalo on the other hand, is on the wrong side of the lake and gets 10 times the snow and cold that we do! Jeff Zedic Toronto ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel
On Thursday 06 April 2006 7:55, Curt Raymond wrote: At -20F don't inhale through your mouth, thats a prescription for a coughing fit. Been there a few times in Detroit. I have seen -60 with the wind chill, and it was unpleasantly cold. I worked in commercial blast freezers for a couple of years, and it was not as bad as a bad winter day in Detroit. Inhaling through the mouth is bad, inhaling through your nose means you can feel the moisture in your nose and airway freeze and crackle almost instantly (probably TMI for some.) Breath tends to condense in facial hair and freeze, and if the cold makes your nose run, you have snotsickles. Stepping back indoors, if you wear glasses, means that moisture will immediately condense on them and freeze. Lee
Re: [MBZ] MBZ] Request for 124 EPC data
Only thing I see that looks remotely plausible, Casey, is 201 998 17 78, except the parts bible lists 5 ea for each rear door, total 10. Attached stripped fr list copy is a screenshot that should show it all - if you can figure it out. My karma's all warm fuzzy now. joe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Panelling 124.034.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 81430 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060= 405/751face8/Panelling124.034.pdf
Re: [MBZ] Seriously OT:Re: We can all just throw our Macs away
You've not delt with all that many Macs then... The early G5s were absolutely horrible, failure rates of easily 30% right out of the box. The same was true with the early MDD G4s. Oh did I mention that the MDD G4s were backwards? The heat of the processors rose into the expansion cards? Anybody who made an expansion card needed to provide a fan kit or risk ruining the motherboard on the machine. Then lets talk about the cube. Remember the cube? I watch one get hit with a gust of cold air once when somebody opened the window, that 30F air hit the case and it split right open... iBook motherboards are prone to failure as are the crappy powersupply connectors on the pre-G3 powerbooks. I'll admit Apple makes fine hardware that you pay a PREMIUM for but my experience an HP workstation (like an xw8000 or xw8200) is every bit as rugged. HP also has just as good a return policy for the worstation models, in many cases better because they'll send a tech onsite for the repair. The PC workstations also adopted PCI-X and PCIe technology earlier, supported IDE 100 and 133 drives, SCSI 320 and proper support of multiple processors earlier. Supported standard monitor types (Apple has had at least 3 mostly proprietary monitor connectors now), standardized keyboard and mouse connections and finally multiple button mice. All that and I still like Apple. The best laptops ever, despite what Powerbook and iBook people will tell you, was made by Sun. They named it the Turtle which was a stupid marketing move... -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:19:41 -0500 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Seriously OT:Re: We can all just throw our Macs away To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Gee, now I can run a slower, buggier, virus infested self destroying OS on my Mac! Hurrah! Back to OS 9 for me (hehe). Next big hack is going to be the killer, though -- the software work-around to run OS X on a PC! Now that I could go for! Note to the uninitiated -- I have NEVER had a board or component failure on a Mac (up to 15 years old) other than on monitor blowing and a dead MB from repeated lightening strikes on my phone line, and in that case I only lost the serial ports, everything else works fine! Peter - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 06 14:28:24 2006 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.206]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRVTD-0003sj-Lg for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:28:24 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so114129wxd for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:28:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EZoytrFA5B790lo63bs4chgIPPsVgX58RLte93xupTQAi457DK5/EFR6JqSzKAzhcXda69MOEGSc0zevCNSQyKjyutudpJcsvyAIowLQMmhSt/2tPzhxrB5cdlkW7w/uaBfdsVlqjecCSpMaK2Y2SjLu5zHOr/Bv7XtcpNMOBGk= Received: by 10.70.78.14 with SMTP id a14mr1283354wxb; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ( [129.44.71.2]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i39sm867377wxd.2006.04.06.07.28.16; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:28:02 -0400 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:28:24 - Yeah, I forgot about the frosty beard effect as well, though that's usually snow instead of snot. (: I remember one time (I don't even think it was THAT cold at the time) I was getting a little worried as the snow was blowing
Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel
I thought Rochester NY was known more for its localized lake-effect blizzards than record-breaking cold. On 4/6/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I forgot about the frosty beard effect as well, though that's usually snow instead of snot. (: I remember one time (I don't even think it was THAT cold at the time) I was getting a little worried as the snow was blowing in my face and I was squinting, it was literally freezing my eyelashes together... Levi (: lee wrote: On Thursday 06 April 2006 7:55, Curt Raymond wrote: At -20F don't inhale through your mouth, thats a prescription for a coughing fit. Been there a few times in Detroit. I have seen -60 with the wind chill, and it was unpleasantly cold. I worked in commercial blast freezers for a couple of years, and it was not as bad as a bad winter day in Detroit. Inhaling through the mouth is bad, inhaling through your nose means you can feel the moisture in your nose and airway freeze and crackle almost instantly (probably TMI for some.) Breath tends to condense in facial hair and freeze, and if the cold makes your nose run, you have snotsickles. Stepping back indoors, if you wear glasses, means that moisture will immediately condense on them and freeze. Lee ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MBZ] Request for 124 EPC data
Wowza! That's exactly what I needed. It's a regular karmic cavalcade around your place. On 4/5/06, Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only thing I see that looks remotely plausible, Casey, is 201 998 17 78, except the parts bible lists 5 ea for each rear door, total 10. Attached stripped fr list copy is a screenshot that should show it all - if you can figure it out. My karma's all warm fuzzy now. joe -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (212k) '84 300D (211k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
Pulled the hood ornament. Looking at the manual, the old epoxied POS, and the (partial) new star I now see what the huge spring to the bottom of the grille is about: the locking collar is missing (on both ornament assemblies!) and the heavy spring is what's holding the whole mess in. The old assembly had its heavier (of two) springs moved from the inside of the spring retainer cup to the outside of it (below), and the inner spring was extended and had a cotter pin through it to pin the outer spring in place. (The relocated spring is what normally puts tension on the star itself so that it stays wherever it's moved to in its socket, but its lack wasn't felt because the socket was epoxied together, presumably as part of holding on a snapped-off star.) Then the whole mess was spring-loaded down into the grille's hole by the long heavy spring. Without the locking collar what else can you do? I ended up just moving the old outer spring to the same place on the new (resulting in two outer springs, one inside the retaining cup and one outside) and used a piece of framing nail to pin it in place through the inner spring's hook as before. Then the whole mess was loaded into the grille's hole and tied down with the long spring, just as before. Highly inelegant, but functional. And it looks just fine from outside. If someday a retaining clip turned up it could easily be made right as no harm has been done to anything, so that's OK, but it seems just fine to me as it is. Done! Have I said that lately? Thanks to Kevin, for Erik the half-a-star! Now I just need to wait for the weather to clear enough to wash the car again and take the pictures. Then it goes up for sale. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel
I'd say you are correct, but that Rochester isn't even that well known for the lake effect snow. (not that it doesn't get it, but I don't think it holds a candle to the buffalo area). I live near Corning which is more south of Rochester and my in-laws live between Jamestown, NY and Erie, PA which is mostly South of Buffalo. There's almost a visible line you cross somewhere around Salamanca, where suddenly you're in the REAL snow belt in the winter. Which usually means that even with the traffic, the highway is covered, you have a hard time seeing anything but driving snow, and it usually comes down about 12 inches at a time. (as opposed to this side of that line where it seems to come down a couple inches at a time). Levi (: andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought Rochester NY was known more for its localized lake-effect blizzards than record-breaking cold. On 4/6/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I forgot about the frosty beard effect as well, though that's usually snow instead of snot. (: I remember one time (I don't even think it was THAT cold at the time) I was getting a little worried as the snow was blowing in my face and I was squinting, it was literally freezing my eyelashes together... Levi (: lee wrote: On Thursday 06 April 2006 7:55, Curt Raymond wrote: At -20F don't inhale through your mouth, thats a prescription for a coughing fit. Been there a few times in Detroit. I have seen -60 with the wind chill, and it was unpleasantly cold. I worked in commercial blast freezers for a couple of years, and it was not as bad as a bad winter day in Detroit. Inhaling through the mouth is bad, inhaling through your nose means you can feel the moisture in your nose and airway freeze and crackle almost instantly (probably TMI for some.) Breath tends to condense in facial hair and freeze, and if the cold makes your nose run, you have snotsickles. Stepping back indoors, if you wear glasses, means that moisture will immediately condense on them and freeze. Lee ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk
Nah for anything structural you need steel, I was thinking of POR15 for just the bottom of a trunk thats a little holey. They've actually got a trunk repair kit thats like a quart of the paint with the associated cleaning chemicals and some fiberglass matte. You can't buy trunk replacement parts? Isn't there somebody else on the list going through that right now? -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:09:17 -0700 From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Will POR-15 build up enough for rejoining the two halves of sheet into one? I suspect that it wants to be a bearing piece not just cosmetic. From the muck I ground up while dealing with the rust, I think after one fender bender or trunk crunch, it was coated with spray undercoating. Not that it helped. It just made is sticky. - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 06 14:58:12 2006 Received: from web32813.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.43]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRVw4-0006jy-Kx for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:58:12 + Received: (qmail 74559 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Apr 2006 14:58:09 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rAzIjJXXcjaCUkZN4b+DX3WkZ2cekAd8kmKIaKcVg92Z055epTDeE+LqHvB8aHPcmDa7B4MXqZcnLgl8iel5LLA5LGiO5KDKfE4QSXXS5BrrAxln3g7OW2m/nwHI2Chni+NiQF+gf+GzWwNWqmANZ5E/ikik22MKdT1C+7T2/m4= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32813.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:58:09 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:58:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:58:12 - I'd always assumed it had something to do with the legendary ehh, whatever Italian work ethic... -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:52:27 -0400 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Apr 6, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Good question-I have thought that German tune up is more appropriate, given the autobahns and the legendary speeds there. FWIW Dwight Giles, Jr It has already been dubbed Italian Tune-Up in the early days of these forums. Ever been to Italy? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 06 15:26:24 2006 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.200.83]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRWNL-0001KU-RB for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:26:24 + Received: from notebook (c-68-57-181-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net[68.57.181.125]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id 2006040615261801300bikire; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:26:18 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:26:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
Where do you plan to market it? Harry - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pulled the hood ornament. Looking at the manual, the old epoxied POS, and the (partial) new star I now see what the huge spring to the bottom of the grille is about: the locking collar is missing (on both ornament assemblies!) and the heavy spring is what's holding the whole mess in. The old assembly had its heavier (of two) springs moved from the inside of the spring retainer cup to the outside of it (below), and the inner spring was extended and had a cotter pin through it to pin the outer spring in place. (The relocated spring is what normally puts tension on the star itself so that it stays wherever it's moved to in its socket, but its lack wasn't felt because the socket was epoxied together, presumably as part of holding on a snapped-off star.) Then the whole mess was spring-loaded down into the grille's hole by the long heavy spring. Without the locking collar what else can you do? I ended up just moving the old outer spring to the same place on the new (resulting in two outer springs, one inside the retaining cup and one outside) and used a piece of framing nail to pin it in place through the inner spring's hook as before. Then the whole mess was loaded into the grille's hole and tied down with the long spring, just as before. Highly inelegant, but functional. And it looks just fine from outside. If someday a retaining clip turned up it could easily be made right as no harm has been done to anything, so that's OK, but it seems just fine to me as it is. Done! Have I said that lately? Thanks to Kevin, for Erik the half-a-star! Now I just need to wait for the weather to clear enough to wash the car again and take the pictures. Then it goes up for sale. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron
So there is NO moving part in an IP that is lubricated with JUST fuel? engine oil lubricates everything? Cant't see how that could be...I'm probably wrong, but would like a little more info/confirmation. Is there ANYTHING we need to concern ourselves about regarding ULSD? Thanks! Chris Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: excellent links! thanks! Vehicles not specifically designed for use with S15 (ULSD) may use either S15 (ULSD) or S500 (500 ppm) diesel. So does this mean that we will actually be able to find S500 pumps around? That would be great. If not, will a constant use of a lubricity additive be needed? By 2009 (I think) there will be NO S500! What are you trying to lubricate? Mercedes pumps don't need any more lubrication then the motor oil provides. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 06 16:02:16 2006 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRWw4-0004yM-Jl for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:02:16 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id 2006040616021101100ldgqae; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:02:11 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:02:10 -0400 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:02:16 - http://www.kkmfg.com/catalogs.php Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel
On Apr 6, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Levi Smith wrote: I'd say you are correct, but that Rochester isn't even that well known for the lake effect snow. (not that it doesn't get it, but I don't think it holds a candle to the buffalo area). I live near Corning which is more south of Rochester and my in-laws live between Jamestown, NY and Erie, PA which is mostly South of Buffalo. There's almost a visible line you cross somewhere around Salamanca, where suddenly you're in the REAL snow belt in the winter. The Mohawk valley is a pipeline for snow. I live about 70 miles North of Albany and historically we get lower temps and less snow. Find Old Forge and Tugg Hill Plateau on a map and see if you can figure out why it is the snowmobiling capital of the world Can we talk about Spring soon, please? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron
On Apr 6, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: So there is NO moving part in an IP that is lubricated with JUST fuel? engine oil lubricates everything? Cant't see how that could be...I'm probably wrong, but would like a little more info/ confirmation. The parts of the pump that come in contact with the fuel are lubricated by the sulphur in the fuel. There is no mixing (or rather shouldn't be any mixing) of motor oil with fuel. Most of the IP is lubed by motor oil. Viewing a cut-away of an IP may help you comprehend the above statement. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] Mercedes high tech OT
Subject: A New Car This was sent to me today. I just got my new Mercedes 500 SL, and I returned to the dealer the next day with the complaint that I couldn't figure out how the radio worked. The salesman explained that the radio was voice activated. Watch this! he said. Nelson! The radio replied, Ricky or Willie? Willie, he continued and then On The Road Again came from the speakers. I drove away happy, and for the next few days, every time I'd say, Beethoven! I'd get beautiful classical music, and if I said, Beatles! I'd get one of their awesome songs. One day a couple ran a red light and nearly creamed my new car, but I swerved just in time to avoid them. A--holes! I yelled. The French National Anthem began to play, sung by Jane Fonda and Michael Moore, backed up by John Kerry on guitar, Al Gore on Drums and Bill Clinton on sax I love this car!!! Just a joke, no flames please. Jim in Phoenix
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron
Christopher McCann wrote: So there is NO moving part in an IP that is lubricated with JUST fuel? engine oil lubricates everything? Cant't see how that could be...I'm probably wrong, but would like a little more info/confirmation. Is there ANYTHING we need to concern ourselves about regarding ULSD? People in California have been using ULSD for several years now in both old and new Mercedes diesels and there have been NO problems. Same in Europe for even longer. The Bosch mechanical injection pump design has ample lubriction when pumping #2 diesel, #1 diesel OR even gasoline!! All of the mechanical gasoline pumps from the '50 thru the early '70s were essentially the same design. The only thing that USLD MIGHT cause trouble with in a Mercedes are seals and rubber hose. Most that have been in place for 20 years will be fine as will the newest ones, but some small percentage MAY fail if the formulation of the fuel and it's seal swelling properties aren't perfect. Not really very different problems than switching to Bio or Veggie fuel, except the problems with ULSD are rather minor in severity. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron
John Berryman wrote: On Apr 6, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: So there is NO moving part in an IP that is lubricated with JUST fuel? engine oil lubricates everything? Cant't see how that could be...I'm probably wrong, but would like a little more info/ confirmation. The parts of the pump that come in contact with the fuel are lubricated by the sulphur in the fuel. There is no mixing (or rather shouldn't be any mixing) of motor oil with fuel. Most of the IP is lubed by motor oil. Viewing a cut-away of an IP may help you comprehend the above statement. Correction: Sulfur lubricates NOTHING! When refining to remove sulfur from the fuel, often other fractions that are lubricants are also removed. Unless they are replaced (they often weren't when low sulfur diesel was first produced) the fuel will have less lubricity. #1 diesel has the same sulfur content as #2 but #1 has MUCH, MUCH poorer lubricity. ULSD has almost NO sulfur but better lubricity than than ANY #1 diesel and than MOST #2. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup
Maybe because a lot of Italy is mountainous and the general idea is to drive hard going uphill? Or maybe, trying to make your poor old diesel move like a Ferrari? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:36 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup Good question-I have thought that German tune up is more appropriate, given the autobahns and the legendary speeds there. FWIW Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gallagher Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My friend the Italian Tuneup Why is the word Italian used to cure a problem? Can *4r3$ be used to cause the problem in the first place??? Bill 1981 300 TD Not a Italian archer wrote: You might have something there. I knew a farmer who used his old 200D to take as many bags of feed as the car would hold to his cattle way out in the field. He took the seats out and piled feed sacks up to the roof and in the trunk. He started using it because his pickup truck kept breaking suspension parts. The 200D never broke anything. GerryA - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Toss a bunch of sand bags into the trunk and then try to reach highway speeds. Might have a few in the rear foot wells. 400 lb ought to give the car a work out. archer wrote: Steve Auto Clinics in Zambia have a long and seemingly thorough discussion of EGT versus engine life: http://www.steves.co.za/Engine_Protection_Units_1.html From reading it I get the impression that the typical Italian Tuneup might be somewhat risky. I've NEVER heard of an unmodified Mercedes diesel burning up from running at permissible loads. If it's dangerous, Mercedes either prevents it or tells you to NOT do it. All of the melted engines I know of came after people defeated the systems that controlled power output. I've NEVER heard of a Mercedes turbodiesel burning up from running flat out and I've driven dozens of 'em that way.! Marshall --- In a previous article about Italian tuneups you wrote: ...The chain stretch should be below 5 degrees or so, the valves should be properly adjusted, the air and fuel filters should be verifiably clean, and there should be clean and it would probably be best if the injection pump timing is known to be pretty close to correct (within a couple of degrees). http://articles.mbz.org/engine/diesel/italian/ If one or all of these conditions are not met, does that mean a turbodiesel could self destruct in your opinion? Note: I'm not trying to prove you wrong by any means. I'm simply trying to work out a method whereby those of us who are a long way from mountain grades can do the equivalent of an Italian tuneup. Some of us on this group cannot afford to blow up an engine, but we would still like to make our engines run better and more economically. Gerry Archer ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron
Will dig up a diagram. FYI, the sulphur is not what lubricates. The process which removes the sulphur destroys the lubriciity. I've heard this before (from Stanadyne) and the Chevron website makes the same point. ADDING sulphur to ULSD will NOT help lubricty, so if some yahoo comes along selling sulphur additive, it's snake-oil, so to speak. Chris John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 6, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: So there is NO moving part in an IP that is lubricated with JUST fuel? engine oil lubricates everything? Cant't see how that could be...I'm probably wrong, but would like a little more info/ confirmation. The parts of the pump that come in contact with the fuel are lubricated by the sulphur in the fuel. There is no mixing (or rather shouldn't be any mixing) of motor oil with fuel. Most of the IP is lubed by motor oil. Viewing a cut-away of an IP may help you comprehend the above statement. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1cent;/min. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 06 16:45:15 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRXbe-0001RN-TB for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:45:15 + Received: from dogear.com (IP-206-63-94-253.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.253] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k36GjtxZ014686 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:45:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:45:11 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:45:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:45:15 - http://www.kkmfg.com/catalogs.php But no 115 parts there. I got my 107 trunk floor from the dealer. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
Where do you plan to market it? Thought I'd start with the Spokane, Seattle, and Portland Craig's lists. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Spotted 190E for sale
You're right. I forgot. But I thought y'all knew me so well, that you'd remember where I live! :) Brian On 4/6/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is SERIOUSLY interested, I could ask the guy. But otherwise, I don't think I'd feel like hassling him. And why is it that everybody always forgets to say _where_ these morsels are, because location, location, location really enters into the picture. (And no, I'm not personally interested.) -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Spotted 190E for sale
I can't see this thread title without picturing a 201 painted like a Dalmatian! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron
ULSD has almost NO sulfur but better lubricity than than ANY #1 diesel and than MOST #2. Becuase a lubricity agent is added, I assume... Chris Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Berryman wrote: On Apr 6, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: So there is NO moving part in an IP that is lubricated with JUST fuel? engine oil lubricates everything? Cant't see how that could be...I'm probably wrong, but would like a little more info/ confirmation. The parts of the pump that come in contact with the fuel are lubricated by the sulphur in the fuel. There is no mixing (or rather shouldn't be any mixing) of motor oil with fuel. Most of the IP is lubed by motor oil. Viewing a cut-away of an IP may help you comprehend the above statement. Correction: Sulfur lubricates NOTHING! When refining to remove sulfur from the fuel, often other fractions that are lubricants are also removed. Unless they are replaced (they often weren't when low sulfur diesel was first produced) the fuel will have less lubricity. #1 diesel has the same sulfur content as #2 but #1 has MUCH, MUCH poorer lubricity. ULSD has almost NO sulfur but better lubricity than than ANY #1 diesel and than MOST #2. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1cent;/min. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 06 17:18:18 2006 Received: from tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.34]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRY7e-0004Yj-90 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:18:18 + Received: from [192.168.2.10] ([64.231.142.61]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:18:08 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:18:08 -0400 From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:18:18 - Jabba, The reason Toronto is warmer is that we get a lake heat effect, whereas Barffalo gets a snow lake effect. The lake acts as a giant heat sink and on cold winter mornings you can see the heat rising off the lake. With the prevailing winds here it picks up heat and the city traps it as all cities do with heat. In summer you get the reverse effect. It is usually a few degrees cooler at the lake. Most times I've been to NYC in winter it's been colder than us here. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] 300D Bundtcake Rims
Me too! Surprised to hear myself say that as I've always loved aluminum wheels - unsprung weight and all that. I just like the character the steels and caps give (or as wife calls it cute). Here's a question I've had: Has anyone seen or heard of the wheelcovers popping off a Mercedes under hard cornering? I know that this happens on a lot of cars, and it's why police cars would always have hubcaps (just covering the middle of the wheel), rather than wheel covers which cover the whole diameter, attaching to the outer lip of wheel (and thus are succeptible to popping off under wheel flex). I know on that old TV commercial that was posted to the list some time ago, that orange 300D was cornering at the limits of its capability, and the wheel covers stayed on. Unless I'm forgetting and it had bundts. Or unless they sneakily adhered them to the wheels in preparation for the handling demonstration. Brian 83 240D On 4/5/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I prefer steel wheels and hubcaps. At 09:52 AM 4/5/2006, you wrote: I have been negligent in washing.my wheels are looking bad..the rear cleaned up well, but the front ones are not comming clean and it feels rough in some places..some pitting I guess...any suggestions on what to clean them with, to keep from making it worse? I know about the clean wheels but have heard discussions about overheating...some have said not to use, some say ok if slotted..another said if one has a habit of riding the brakes while driving, it is problematic...what to do..I don't have time to clean wheels 3 - 4 times a week.. thanks Rhonald 1985 300D Black/Palomino 290,000 miles Washington, DC ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron
On Apr 6, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Christopher McCann wrote: Correction: Sulfur lubricates NOTHING! When refining to remove sulfur from the fuel, often other fractions that are lubricants are also removed. Unless they are replaced (they often weren't when low sulfur diesel was first produced) the fuel will have less lubricity. #1 diesel has the same sulfur content as #2 but #1 has MUCH, MUCH poorer lubricity. ULSD has almost NO sulfur but better lubricity than than ANY #1 diesel and than MOST #2. Marshall I stand corrected. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] We can all just throw our Macs away
John M McIntosh wrote: Still I have to wonder if you buy a XP CD who does the support for you? Usually isn't that covered by the poor hardware vendor? If you buy a retail boxed copy, you get support directly from Microsoft. That's one of the reasons you pay a premium to get it that way. If you buy the OEM edition, a little flat package with a peel-off sticker to put on the case, YOU have just become the hardware vendor and you're on your own. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] 300D Bundtcake Rims
Zoltan Finks wrote: Me too! Surprised to hear myself say that as I've always loved aluminum wheels - unsprung weight and all that. I just like the character the steels and caps give (or as wife calls it cute). Are the Mercedes alloy wheels really much lighter than the steelies? On some cars, the OEM alloys are actually heavier than stamped steel wheels. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] 300D Bundtcake Rims
archer wrote: A pressure washer held just close enough to remove the dirt/brake dust and not the finish did a good job on a set of bundt wheels after spraying them with some kind of cleaner (409?) I forget which one. In that vein, I've had reasonably good results at removing light accumulations by spraying the wheels with cheap parts store wheel cleaner just before driving through a self-serve automatic car wash. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel
John Berryman wrote: The Mohawk valley is a pipeline for snow. I live about 70 miles North of Albany and historically we get lower temps and less snow. Find Old Forge and Tugg Hill Plateau on a map and see if you can figure out why it is the snowmobiling capital of the world I went to college in Houghton, Michigan, in the northern part of the upper peninsula. Lake Superior keeps the temperatures from getting as low as they do in northern Minnesota, but it also generates a lot of lake effect snow. The worst of it tends to be around Marquette and Munising, but the first winter I was up there, Houghton got over 200 inches. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
