Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Headlamp wipers were removed; PO had installed Euro headlights, mixed
set of Bosch and Hella, and used wipers that didn't really fit right but
he kludged them in.  I struggled with keeping them properly aligned, and
when I installed two new headlights from Rusty, found the issue when I
tried to move the wiper motors.  The shafts at too long, requiring a
spacer on the shaft to move the motor back, which moves the motor out of
reach of the tab-stop that keeps the motor from rotating when the wipers
encounter resistance.  I have not had time to make a proper spacer and
figure out a good solution to keeping the motors from rotating.

I'm tempted to get the hood nozzle fittings for the windshield washer
from pick-n-pull, and mount those below the headlights so I only get the
fluid squirting action to clean the lights.  Might be easier than
motor/wiper/fluid set-up, and lighter too.

-Max

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
 Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous;


Interesting pair of white 124s.
Max, your headlamp wipers fell off.
Wilton needs to detail his wheels or quit calling the car 'showroom
condition'.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

2010-11-09 Thread Walt Zarnoch
On his forum he said he was sore all over and needed to do some
drive-shaft adaptation, so I'd guess it fit in there!

Walt

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:
 Rolf,

 How did it go?  Is this swap into a diesel engine car?

 -Max

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 Subject: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

 If all goes well and Rusty comes through on some parts I will be
 swapping out my leaky auto for a 5spd manual. Hopefully I can do it in a
 day I'll have 2 sets of helping hands in theory.

 -Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

2010-11-09 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Rolf,

How did it go?  Is this swap into a diesel engine car?

-Max 

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Subject: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

If all goes well and Rusty comes through on some parts I will be
swapping out my leaky auto for a 5spd manual. Hopefully I can do it in a
day I'll have 2 sets of helping hands in theory.

-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] OM617 - Identifying real crank position

2010-11-09 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I'm with Peter on this one.  First chain replacement I ever did was on
almost the same engine (OM617.912) and I also managed to skip a tooth,
but checked my work, found the problem, and corrected it.  If you don't
want to pull the pre-chamber (I didn't either),  I think you'll have to
determine skip or not skip by experimentation.  Rotate the engine
through several complete revolutions by hand to make sure there's no
piston/valve interference, button up and drive the car and judge the
power output.  If not satisfactory, move chain one tooth on camshaft
gear, verify no interference between pistons/valves, then check the
power output for improvement.  Decide which position is better.

I'll bet that your harmonic balancer is fine and is reading true.

-Max

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM617 - Identifying real crank position

Yes, you can remove the bottom oil pan.  Messy, but should work.

You can also pull the #1 prechamber and use something like a coat hanger
wire to determine when the piston is at TDC.  Even just pulling the
injector or glow plug should let you know if you are close.  Stops
blowing and starts sucking in air at TDC on the compression stroke.

Or you can assume you have jumped a tooth, which is rather common --
I've done it twice.  I believe they are 13 degrees each, so it ads up
pretty well, and you would be within 2 degrees if you move the cam
sprocket.

It will run just fine, although low on power with the cam 15 degrees
late.  15 advance and the pistons hit the valves.

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] OM617 - Identifying real crank position

2010-11-09 Thread Rolf
There is always option C. Removing the cam lobes/retaining nut/spring on 
number one and rotating engine until the valves dont drop in the 
engine... I would take this over pulling prechambers any day...


-Rolf

On 11/09/2010 07:47 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
wrote:

I'm with Peter on this one.  First chain replacement I ever did was on
almost the same engine (OM617.912) and I also managed to skip a tooth,
but checked my work, found the problem, and corrected it.  If you don't
want to pull the pre-chamber (I didn't either),  I think you'll have to
determine skip or not skip by experimentation.  Rotate the engine
through several complete revolutions by hand to make sure there's no
piston/valve interference, button up and drive the car and judge the
power output.  If not satisfactory, move chain one tooth on camshaft
gear, verify no interference between pistons/valves, then check the
power output for improvement.  Decide which position is better.

I'll bet that your harmonic balancer is fine and is reading true.

-Max

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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM617 - Identifying real crank position

Yes, you can remove the bottom oil pan.  Messy, but should work.

You can also pull the #1 prechamber and use something like a coat hanger
wire to determine when the piston is at TDC.  Even just pulling the
injector or glow plug should let you know if you are close.  Stops
blowing and starts sucking in air at TDC on the compression stroke.

Or you can assume you have jumped a tooth, which is rather common --
I've done it twice.  I believe they are 13 degrees each, so it ads up
pretty well, and you would be within 2 degrees if you move the cam
sprocket.

It will run just fine, although low on power with the cam 15 degrees
late.  15 advance and the pistons hit the valves.

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

2010-11-09 Thread Mitch Haley

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

Rolf,

How did it go?  Is this swap into a diesel engine car?


Subject line says 87 300D.

Now he just needs an intercooler, a variable turbo, and more fuel.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Euro headlights?

2010-11-09 Thread Jim Cathey

I went ahead and installed heavier wiring and the
relay kit so that I can run the 100/130 Narva H4 bulbs.


I did the same kind of thing on the 450 SL.  Called 'em Deerslayers.
Not too expensive, the Hela lamps were the big part.  Got the
100W bulbs at NAPA, ask for motorcycle bulbs.

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLlights.html

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Inspiration

2010-11-09 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Wilton - you're way ahead of me.  Since I have the '95 'project'
occupying one garage space, my wagon has been parked outside under an
oak tree; the sap, leaves, acorns, etc take their toll, and I've only
been able to wash/wax the car twice this year.  I insisted on taking the
time to wash/wax just before this trip, knowing that a dirty car on such
a long trip would drive me nuts not to mention embarrassment if I
happened to meet up with a fellow MB enthusiast along the way.  Sadly
the car may not get such attention for another six months or so.

-Max

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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:43 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Inspiration

Nice visit with Max and his family yesterday inspired/shamed me to take
better care of the paint on my arctic white, nearly-showroom 87 300D.  I
was a bit embarrassed for them to see it in dire need of a proper
cleaning and waxing.  Yes, I've been a back-slider.  'Been running it
through carwash and wiping it down with towel afterward, but I haven't
really cleaned and waxed it properly in the 6+ years I've had it, so,
though the paint still has no nicks, gouges, scratches, dents, dings,
rust, etc., it has been looking quite flat for too long.  I've spent
about three hours so far today working on the rear section from rear
doors aft; all of that area is now pristine and glistening - even the
six years of exhaust film across the back has been removed (again, this
is a WHITE car), and that area is white again - not light grey.  I can
get to much of it sitting on my walker; 'have to stand only to get to
the higher horizontal surfaces and can touch or lean against the car for
more stability. 

BTW, 'discovered a neat trick to keep white cleaner/wax film off the
black trim areas; painters blue masking tape on those areas works
beautifully.  'Had the roll of tape in the trunk after painting a small
area on the left rear door of the black 350SDL coupla weeks ago.  

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OM617 - Identifying real crank position

2010-11-09 Thread Mitch Haley

Rolf wrote:
There is always option C. Removing the cam lobes/retaining nut/spring on 
number one and rotating engine until the valves dont drop in the 
engine... I would take this over pulling prechambers any day...


I'd pull #1 glow plug, fit a hose to the glow plug hole, and fill the cylinder 
with oil near TDC. When you find the point at which the most oil is pushed out 
the hose, you should be within one degree of TDC. Just leave the GP out until 
after you start the engine for the first time, to blow out the oil.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread E M
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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Wilton and I also commented on that; both pin striping colors match the
interior colors (maroon for Wilton, blue for me).  Mine is in pretty
shabby shape, and I'm tempted to try to remove it but would probably not
be too happy with the end result.

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

Nice cars gents.  Interesting, I notice pin-striping on both cars.  A
neighbour brought her 420 SEL up here a few years ago, when she moved
from the US.  I had pin-striping too.  Was this a factory thing in the
US?  I don't think I've even seen a Mercedes in a Canadian showroom, new
or older models, with pin-stripes.

Ed
300E no pin stripes.

On 9 November 2010 08:10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 I've had very good luck following a fast runner about 300 or 400 yards

 back, so they absorb the ticket but I can react to their sudden 
 braking and slow down without getting attention from the law.  Haven't

 had a ticket since about 1989.  NC and VA and WDC, on the other hand, 
 are usually heavily enforced and I watch the speed very closely in 
 those states.

 Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous; a beautiful blond urchin 
 in pajamas (picture 2) insisted on asking for a ride in my sexy wagon,

 and my Wife let her in!  Wilton was jealous - he needs to get a wagon 
 too I think.


 -Max

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 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:32 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

 So you lucked out and SCHP missed a good chance to replenish their 
 coffers?
 ;)))

 'Glad to know you made it home safely.

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


  I'll get the photos and share soon - need to pry SWMBO's blackberry
 from
  her hands for a few minutes to download those pix and probably
 thousands
  of others that also need to be backed up.
 
  Much thanks to Wilton for the invite AND picking up the tab.  Was a
 very
  nice break during the 540 mile trip, great to finally meet another 
  dieselitus maximitus sufferer, we took our time for the rest of 
  the trip and rolled into the home driveway at about 10 p.m.
 
  I did indulge in a little fast driving on '95 in South Carolina; a
 very
  nice W140 and a R129 cruised by at about 90 mph, and I just couldn't

  hold my wagon back.  We briefly exceed 100 in a very nice formation,
 all
  the rice burners fell away, then after 30 minutes or so the R129 and

  I had had enough and the S-class faded away in the distance.
 
  -Max
 
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  From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:00 AM
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  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
 
  Max likely will; they're in his camera.
  BTW, thanks for your help in steering him to a tire shop; 'found bad

  tire; 'installed spare after resisting sales pitches; 'driving
 smoothly
  when they came through here.
 
  Wilton
 
  - Original Message -
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  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
 
 
  Any chance you could post a link to these historic photos?
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Sounds great Wilton.  Wish there were a few more Benz guys, to 
  chat
  cars
  with over lunch around here.  I stopped for coffee today, and 
  parked beside a new black 550 CL.  What a great looking car it 
  was, and the panel
  and
  trim
  fit was something to behold.  If anyone does it better, I have yet
 to
  see
  it, and I've seen pretty much everything.  It was nice to enjoy 
  the
  view,
  and dream a bit over coffee today. :-)
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 5 November 2010 16:25, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
   'Just spent a very enjoyable and short coupla hours and lunch 
   with
  Max
   Dillon and his beautiful SWMBO and 4-year-old daughter at a
 Cracker
  Barrel
   Restaurant just off I-95 near Wilson, NC.  'Also admired his 87
  300TD
  (332
   kmi).  His SWMBO got 3 or 4 photos of us with our respective
 nearly
 
   twin
   Arctic White TD and 300D.
  
   Wilton
  
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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

2010-11-09 Thread Rolf

Pretty much. And rebuild the rear end. And a new head heheheh.

Can't wait to take it out to Road Atlanta and see what the top speed is...

-Rolf

On 11/09/2010 09:07 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

Rolf,

How did it go?  Is this swap into a diesel engine car?


Subject line says 87 300D.

Now he just needs an intercooler, a variable turbo, and more fuel.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time

2010-11-09 Thread John Reames
True, but fire and bottled light don't affect my internal clock much, it still 
syncs to the outside. Tubed light does mess with my internal clock (and not in 
good ways at all); gotta love schedule inversions...


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On Nov 8, 2010, at 22:01, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:50:46 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Or just forget the clock - go to work after the sun rises, and get home
 before it sets -- seems that how life used to be?
 
 Maybe a LONG time ago, but since the advent of artificial light from
 candles and oil lamps and such, not so much.
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz technical assistance 2006 Dodge Sprinter 2.7 litre diesel

2010-11-09 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Really sounds like a failure to properly secure the oil filter cover.
Could he install old filter cover, torque to factory specification using
factory tool, and then start the engine to see if it leaks?

I'm wondering if the inner tube did fail, if the resulting flow of oil
would result in lack of lubrication to a critical part of the engine,
which then caused enough damage to leak oil so that it appeared that the
leak was at the oil filter cover?  Seems a reach.

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:17 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz technical assistance 2006 Dodge
Sprinter 2.7 litre diesel

On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 08:09:28 -0800 (PST) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Here's a link to the full size photos:
 
 http://gallery.me.com/dpenoff#100266


 He has not gotten to see the engine, as it has already been repaired,

That's unfortunate. Hard to tell what went on after someone has messed
with it, let alone repairing all the damage.


 but the claimant says that the oil filter cover failed and as a result

 the oil was forced out of the engine.
 
 The pictures linked above show the original oil filter cover and 
 filter, along with a current part, which is obviously redesigned to 
 eliminate the ringed yellow part.  There is no indication of a 
 failure of the cover or O ring sealing it.

What if the cover were not tightened down? If the oil ring were not
sealing, a lot of oil could leak out quickly, leading to the type of
problem described. The breakage of the yellow part would be incidental
to the cause of failure, which would be incorrect servicing of the
engine.


 That being said, from my inspection it appears that even had this 
 center tube failed, there would be no loss of oil, it would simply 
 fail to be forced through the filter medium and go back into the 
 housing and return to the engine.

Agreed.


 If anyone has any experience with these engines and has any insight 
 into this filter assembly it would be welcome.

None, sorry.


 I am going to contact my parts buddy at the local dealership on Monday

 with the old and current part numbers to see if there has been any 
 service bulletins or other documentation that would indicate why the 
 redesign took place.

That is a good idea.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Mitch Haley

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous; 



Interesting pair of white 124s.
Max, your headlamp wipers fell off.
Wilton needs to detail his wheels or quit calling the car 'showroom condition'.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

2010-11-09 Thread Rolf


Difficult. It always is the first time... Took three hours to get the 
top bolt off the trans on Sat and by the end of it I was out of steam 
for bench pressing the trans into place. I had to adapt a clutch 
alignment tool from a 200sx one I had laying around and didnt manage to 
get it quite right... None of my helpers showed up on Sunday (their 
women had other plans for them) and I ended up putting the trans in by 
my self. Even after I finally got it in I managed to pinch the sound 
deadening material at the top, all bolts had to come loose again to pull 
that out. The DS was an issue, the 87 300d as the larger yoke and flex 
disks. I was dismayed to find this as I pulled the back half of the 
donor shaft from another 300. Last night I picked up the shaft from the 
shop. I had to pull the pedal assembly half off again to get the feed 
line from the reservoir back in. Then after I was done bleeding the 
clutch, it felt like some air was in there so I bled again and the hose 
popped off. Bled more and still pedal to floor, finally I zip tied the 
ends of the hose on the nipples and got it bled properly.


Around 2am I took the maiden voyage. Completely different than my W123. 
I am so used to the gwagen clutch setup I have in there, this totally 
feels like a 240d clutch on a 617. Also the clutch pedal sits super high 
and the sweet spot is 1 or so from the top. I don't remember seeing the 
gasket on the slave cylinder which may account for it being so high, the 
friction disk was almost new.


One thing I can say is that the rear end suspension RELLY needs work 
now :D


-Rolf

ps- and yes its a diesel,

On 11/09/2010 07:31 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
wrote:

Rolf,

How did it go?  Is this swap into a diesel engine car?

-Max

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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 10:39 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

If all goes well and Rusty comes through on some parts I will be
swapping out my leaky auto for a 5spd manual. Hopefully I can do it in a
day I'll have 2 sets of helping hands in theory.

-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz technical assistance 2006 Dodge Sprinter 2.7 litre diesel

2010-11-09 Thread Peter Frederick
If the center tube fails in such a way as to render the seal between  
the lower full flow filter and the upper bypass section ineffective,  
the oil will short-circuit back to the oil pan, resulting in low or  
non-existent oil pressure.  That will wreck the engine in short  
order.  There will be no external leakage.


I'm not familiar with that particular part, but I do know that  
careless installation can dislodge the seal between the parts of the  
oil filter on other Benz diesels.


Peter

On Nov 9, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- 
ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:



Really sounds like a failure to properly secure the oil filter cover.
Could he install old filter cover, torque to factory specification  
using

factory tool, and then start the engine to see if it leaks?

I'm wondering if the inner tube did fail, if the resulting flow of oil
would result in lack of lubrication to a critical part of the engine,
which then caused enough damage to leak oil so that it appeared  
that the

leak was at the oil filter cover?  Seems a reach.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:17 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz technical assistance 2006 Dodge
Sprinter 2.7 litre diesel

On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 08:09:28 -0800 (PST) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com  
wrote:



Here's a link to the full size photos:

http://gallery.me.com/dpenoff#100266




He has not gotten to see the engine, as it has already been repaired,


That's unfortunate. Hard to tell what went on after someone has messed
with it, let alone repairing all the damage.


but the claimant says that the oil filter cover failed and as a  
result



the oil was forced out of the engine.

The pictures linked above show the original oil filter cover and
filter, along with a current part, which is obviously redesigned to
eliminate the ringed yellow part.  There is no indication of a
failure of the cover or O ring sealing it.


What if the cover were not tightened down? If the oil ring were not
sealing, a lot of oil could leak out quickly, leading to the type of
problem described. The breakage of the yellow part would be incidental
to the cause of failure, which would be incorrect servicing of the
engine.



That being said, from my inspection it appears that even had this
center tube failed, there would be no loss of oil, it would simply
fail to be forced through the filter medium and go back into the
housing and return to the engine.


Agreed.



If anyone has any experience with these engines and has any insight
into this filter assembly it would be welcome.


None, sorry.


I am going to contact my parts buddy at the local dealership on  
Monday



with the old and current part numbers to see if there has been any
service bulletins or other documentation that would indicate why the
redesign took place.


That is a good idea.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Euro headlights?

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON
'Put 7 dia. Hellas on my 81 300D years ago.  They threw so much light out 
front first time I turned 'em on I thought I felt some rearward thrust. 
;))


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W126 Euro headlights?



I went ahead and installed heavier wiring and the
relay kit so that I can run the 100/130 Narva H4 bulbs.


I did the same kind of thing on the 450 SL.  Called 'em Deerslayers.
Not too expensive, the Hela lamps were the big part.  Got the
100W bulbs at NAPA, ask for motorcycle bulbs.

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLlights.html

-- Jim



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[MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...

2010-11-09 Thread Rolf

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2050541693.html

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Re: [MBZ] Inspiration

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON
Your wagon  looked good to me.  Don't forget, we're all sinners in some 
way.


BTW, Ed mention the maple leaves on his coupla days ago; it's oak leaves, 
acorns and bird doo (especially the doo) that keep me upset.  'Really 
amazing how fast that stuff can eat through paint.


'Really miss my nice, roomy, enclosed garage at the place I designed and 
built when our Uncle brought me here 31+ years ago.


Wilton

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From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Inspiration



Wilton - you're way ahead of me.  Since I have the '95 'project'
occupying one garage space, my wagon has been parked outside under an
oak tree; the sap, leaves, acorns, etc take their toll, and I've only
been able to wash/wax the car twice this year.  I insisted on taking the
time to wash/wax just before this trip, knowing that a dirty car on such
a long trip would drive me nuts not to mention embarrassment if I
happened to meet up with a fellow MB enthusiast along the way.  Sadly
the car may not get such attention for another six months or so.

-Max

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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:43 PM
To: mercedes list
Subject: [MBZ] Inspiration

Nice visit with Max and his family yesterday inspired/shamed me to take
better care of the paint on my arctic white, nearly-showroom 87 300D.  I
was a bit embarrassed for them to see it in dire need of a proper
cleaning and waxing.  Yes, I've been a back-slider.  'Been running it
through carwash and wiping it down with towel afterward, but I haven't
really cleaned and waxed it properly in the 6+ years I've had it, so,
though the paint still has no nicks, gouges, scratches, dents, dings,
rust, etc., it has been looking quite flat for too long.  I've spent
about three hours so far today working on the rear section from rear
doors aft; all of that area is now pristine and glistening - even the
six years of exhaust film across the back has been removed (again, this
is a WHITE car), and that area is white again - not light grey.  I can
get to much of it sitting on my walker; 'have to stand only to get to
the higher horizontal surfaces and can touch or lean against the car for
more stability.

BTW, 'discovered a neat trick to keep white cleaner/wax film off the
black trim areas; painters blue masking tape on those areas works
beautifully.  'Had the roll of tape in the trunk after painting a small
area on the left rear door of the black 350SDL coupla weeks ago.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON
No, I've been say nearly showroom for quite some time - that's one of the 
not showroom items.  ;)


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch



Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous;



Interesting pair of white 124s.
Max, your headlamp wipers fell off.
Wilton needs to detail his wheels or quit calling the car 'showroom 
condition'.



Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON
During 24-hour daylight in Greenland, I had to blackout my bedroom windows 
with draperies and a blanket to make myself think it was dark outside. 
'Went out alone many times at 1, 2, etc., AM to scout around, photograph, 
etc., base and surrounding area.


Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time


True, but fire and bottled light don't affect my internal clock much, it 
still syncs to the outside. Tubed light does mess with my internal clock 
(and not in good ways at all); gotta love schedule inversions...



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On Nov 8, 2010, at 22:01, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:


On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:50:46 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:


Or just forget the clock - go to work after the sun rises, and get home
before it sets -- seems that how life used to be?


Maybe a LONG time ago, but since the advent of artificial light from
candles and oil lamps and such, not so much.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Real flying

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON

Go ahead; just write check.  ;))

Wilton

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Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Real flying



Camera clamped to a wing strut? I have remote S/W for my Nikon - I hope to
be able to clamp it outside an airplane, and use a tablet PC as the view
finder - snapping pictures at my leasure from the inside of the cabin. Of
course, I need an airplane now ---

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:


On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:46:36 EST relng...@aol.com wrote:

OK. But the camera is outside the passenger compartment, and the
left hand in the picture definitely seems to be flying the plane.
How dey do dat?


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Re: [MBZ] Inspiration

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON
'Had IVIG treatment at hospital yesterday morning.  'Worked on car left side 
and front clip yesterday afternoon.  'Coming along slowly.  'Sure looks 
good all clean and shiny.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Inspiration



Wilton - you're way ahead of me.  Since I have the '95 'project'
occupying one garage space, my wagon has been parked outside under an
oak tree; the sap, leaves, acorns, etc take their toll, and I've only
been able to wash/wax the car twice this year.  I insisted on taking the
time to wash/wax just before this trip, knowing that a dirty car on such
a long trip would drive me nuts not to mention embarrassment if I
happened to meet up with a fellow MB enthusiast along the way.  Sadly
the car may not get such attention for another six months or so.

-Max

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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:43 PM
To: mercedes list
Subject: [MBZ] Inspiration

Nice visit with Max and his family yesterday inspired/shamed me to take
better care of the paint on my arctic white, nearly-showroom 87 300D.  I
was a bit embarrassed for them to see it in dire need of a proper
cleaning and waxing.  Yes, I've been a back-slider.  'Been running it
through carwash and wiping it down with towel afterward, but I haven't
really cleaned and waxed it properly in the 6+ years I've had it, so,
though the paint still has no nicks, gouges, scratches, dents, dings,
rust, etc., it has been looking quite flat for too long.  I've spent
about three hours so far today working on the rear section from rear
doors aft; all of that area is now pristine and glistening - even the
six years of exhaust film across the back has been removed (again, this
is a WHITE car), and that area is white again - not light grey.  I can
get to much of it sitting on my walker; 'have to stand only to get to
the higher horizontal surfaces and can touch or lean against the car for
more stability.

BTW, 'discovered a neat trick to keep white cleaner/wax film off the
black trim areas; painters blue masking tape on those areas works
beautifully.  'Had the roll of tape in the trunk after painting a small
area on the left rear door of the black 350SDL coupla weeks ago.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...

2010-11-09 Thread Mitch Haley

Rolf wrote:

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2050541693.html


240D? 280E?
Grey market 300D or 230E?

Can you trace the part number on the speedometer to a particular model?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...

2010-11-09 Thread Rusty Cullens
European 300D, velour interior, missing grill bars, needs paint from fenders 
back.




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Subject: [MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...



http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2050541693.html

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Re: [MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...

2010-11-09 Thread Mitch Haley

Rusty Cullens wrote:
European 300D, velour interior, missing grill bars, needs paint from 
fenders back.


Your car or Tom's?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...

2010-11-09 Thread Rusty Cullens

Neither, but I wouldn't mind having it if the price were right.


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Rusty Cullens wrote:
European 300D, velour interior, missing grill bars, needs paint from 
fenders back.


Your car or Tom's?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Euro headlights?

2010-11-09 Thread R A Bennell
I keep seeing references to fuses and headlights. Is that not considered 
poor practice? My recollection is that one should use circuit breakers 
for headlights in the hope that they will re-set themselves if there is 
a momentary problem and not just burn out and leave you in the dark.


Randy

On 09/11/2010 9:47 AM, WILTON wrote:
'Put 7 dia. Hellas on my 81 300D years ago.  They threw so much light 
out front first time I turned 'em on I thought I felt some rearward 
thrust. ;))


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W126 Euro headlights?



I went ahead and installed heavier wiring and the
relay kit so that I can run the 100/130 Narva H4 bulbs.


I did the same kind of thing on the 450 SL.  Called 'em Deerslayers.
Not too expensive, the Hela lamps were the big part.  Got the
100W bulbs at NAPA, ask for motorcycle bulbs.

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLlights.html

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] W126 Euro headlights?

2010-11-09 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Barry Stark barryst...@verizon.net wrote:
 Alex -
 Rusty has good deals alright. Unless you must have the look of the full Euro
 headlights you may want to take a less expensive approach and get the same
 lighting ability. I have an '81 SD and as we were getting older we found it
 was harder to see the road at night. I ended up getting the 200mm X 142mm
 Ciebe lights with the parking lights from Dan Stern.

Thanks for the recommendation, Barry.  I may do the Cibie upgrade for
the 126, although I'm more likely to go for the Euros if I can find a
set cheap with the wipers and everything, because I'm trying to get
that car back to Euro stock (before the gray-market import
conversion).

I wish the Cibie upgrade was possible on the 124s!  Why did M-B have
to use that weird trapezoidal lens shape for the inset DOT lights?
The standard rectangular sealed beams like on the US 126 would have
worked just as well (or poorly).

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread E M
 
  On 5 November 2010 16:25, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
   'Just spent a very enjoyable and short coupla hours and lunch with
  Max
   Dillon and his beautiful SWMBO and 4-year-old daughter at a
 Cracker
  Barrel
   Restaurant just off I-95 near Wilson, NC.  'Also admired his 87
  300TD
  (332
   kmi).  His SWMBO got 3 or 4 photos of us with our respective
 nearly
 
   twin
   Arctic White TD and 300D.
  
   Wilton
  
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Re: [MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...

2010-11-09 Thread Rolf

This guy is something else.


It's a real German ben
xaaa
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Subject: 1980 Mercedes Ben - $1500 (Brookhaven)

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240? 300? Why does it have a tach?

-Rolf




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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread E M
Being white cars, I don't think fading would be as big a deal than if the
paint was darker.  If it's just the stick on type, I'm sure you could get it
off, and then use a mild compound to flatten out, and remove any glue.

I also tell the dealer when I get a new car, NO DEALER STICKERS on my car,
unless you want to send me a cheque monthly for helping out with your
advertising!  If it's a used vehicle on the lot, as I've bought before, I
just carefully remove them with a carpenters razor blade, compound, then
wax.  Can't even see where the sticker has been.  I've never done it on a
car more than a couple of years old, so after that, differences in paint
shade may happen, due to fading.

I'm just not a sticker of any type kinda guy.  I think with a new Benz,
there is a no charge delete option, to remove all the model badging.  I know
BMW offer it.  The times I've seen it, it here, it's often to try and
conceal that the entry level car was purchased.  My understanding, in
Germany, it is more common for the higher end models to opt for the option,
to be more stealthy.  I tend to prefer the low profile, don't flaunt it
approach myself.  That's not to say I don't still want the twin turbo V12
engine under the hood, I just don't want the Ferrari guys to see what's
about to hit them!  hee hee.

Ed
300E

On 9 November 2010 10:26, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 Wilton and I also commented on that; both pin striping colors match the
 interior colors (maroon for Wilton, blue for me).  Mine is in pretty
 shabby shape, and I'm tempted to try to remove it but would probably not
 be too happy with the end result.

 -Max

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 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:25 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

 Nice cars gents.  Interesting, I notice pin-striping on both cars.  A
 neighbour brought her 420 SEL up here a few years ago, when she moved
 from the US.  I had pin-striping too.  Was this a factory thing in the
 US?  I don't think I've even seen a Mercedes in a Canadian showroom, new
 or older models, with pin-stripes.

 Ed
 300E no pin stripes.

 On 9 November 2010 08:10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
 53310  meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

  I've had very good luck following a fast runner about 300 or 400 yards

  back, so they absorb the ticket but I can react to their sudden
  braking and slow down without getting attention from the law.  Haven't

  had a ticket since about 1989.  NC and VA and WDC, on the other hand,
  are usually heavily enforced and I watch the speed very closely in
  those states.
 
  Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous; a beautiful blond urchin
  in pajamas (picture 2) insisted on asking for a ride in my sexy wagon,

  and my Wife let her in!  Wilton was jealous - he needs to get a wagon
  too I think.
 
 
  -Max
 
  -Original Message-
  From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:32 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
 
  So you lucked out and SCHP missed a good chance to replenish their
  coffers?
  ;)))
 
  'Glad to know you made it home safely.
 
  Wilton
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
  meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
 
 
   I'll get the photos and share soon - need to pry SWMBO's blackberry
  from
   her hands for a few minutes to download those pix and probably
  thousands
   of others that also need to be backed up.
  
   Much thanks to Wilton for the invite AND picking up the tab.  Was a
  very
   nice break during the 540 mile trip, great to finally meet another
   dieselitus maximitus sufferer, we took our time for the rest of
   the trip and rolled into the home driveway at about 10 p.m.
  
   I did indulge in a little fast driving on '95 in South Carolina; a
  very
   nice W140 and a R129 cruised by at about 90 mph, and I just couldn't

   hold my wagon back.  We briefly exceed 100 in a very nice formation,
  all
   the rice burners fell away, then after 30 minutes or so the R129 and

   I had had enough and the S-class faded away in the distance.
  
   -Max
  
   -Original Message-
   From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
   [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
   Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:00 AM
   To: Mercedes Discussion List
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
  
   Max likely will; they're in his camera.
   BTW, thanks for your help in steering him to a tire shop; 'found bad

   tire; 'installed spare after resisting sales pitches; 'driving
  smoothly
   when they came through here.
  
   Wilton
  
   

Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread pm7088
 
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:09 AM 
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch 
  
  
  Any chance you could post a link to these historic photos? 
  
  
  On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  Sounds great Wilton. Wish there were a few more Benz guys, to chat 
  cars 
  with over lunch around here. I stopped for coffee today, and parked 
  beside 
  a new black 550 CL. What a great looking car it was, and the panel 
  and 
  trim 
  fit was something to behold. If anyone does it better, I have yet 
 to 
  see 
  it, and I've seen pretty much everything. It was nice to enjoy the 
  view, 
  and dream a bit over coffee today. :-) 
  
  Ed 
  300E 
  
  On 5 November 2010 16:25, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 
  
   'Just spent a very enjoyable and short coupla hours and lunch with 
  Max 
   Dillon and his beautiful SWMBO and 4-year-old daughter at a 
 Cracker 
  Barrel 
   Restaurant just off I-95 near Wilson, NC. 'Also admired his 87 
  300TD 
  (332 
   kmi). His SWMBO got 3 or 4 photos of us with our respective 
 nearly 
  
   twin 
   Arctic White TD and 300D. 
   
   Wilton 
   
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Re: [MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...

2010-11-09 Thread Rich Thomas
Looks like different colors paint, the LF tire looks like the tread is 
separating.


--R

On 11/9/10 10:50 AM, Rolf wrote:

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2050541693.html

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON
'Think I used a bit of paint thinner rubbed on striping on 81 300D to 
soften it; likely used a sharpened paint scraper (sharpened ice scraper 
may work good) to run along very slowly and lightly under it while being 
VERY careful not to let it dig into the paint.


Wilton

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meade.m.dil...@navy.mil

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch



Wilton and I also commented on that; both pin striping colors match the
interior colors (maroon for Wilton, blue for me).  Mine is in pretty
shabby shape, and I'm tempted to try to remove it but would probably not
be too happy with the end result.

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:25 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

Nice cars gents.  Interesting, I notice pin-striping on both cars.  A
neighbour brought her 420 SEL up here a few years ago, when she moved
from the US.  I had pin-striping too.  Was this a factory thing in the
US?  I don't think I've even seen a Mercedes in a Canadian showroom, new
or older models, with pin-stripes.

Ed
300E no pin stripes.

On 9 November 2010 08:10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:


I've had very good luck following a fast runner about 300 or 400 yards



back, so they absorb the ticket but I can react to their sudden
braking and slow down without getting attention from the law.  Haven't



had a ticket since about 1989.  NC and VA and WDC, on the other hand,
are usually heavily enforced and I watch the speed very closely in
those states.

Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous; a beautiful blond urchin
in pajamas (picture 2) insisted on asking for a ride in my sexy wagon,



and my Wife let her in!  Wilton was jealous - he needs to get a wagon
too I think.


-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

So you lucked out and SCHP missed a good chance to replenish their
coffers?
;)))

'Glad to know you made it home safely.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


 I'll get the photos and share soon - need to pry SWMBO's blackberry
from
 her hands for a few minutes to download those pix and probably
thousands
 of others that also need to be backed up.

 Much thanks to Wilton for the invite AND picking up the tab.  Was a
very
 nice break during the 540 mile trip, great to finally meet another
 dieselitus maximitus sufferer, we took our time for the rest of
 the trip and rolled into the home driveway at about 10 p.m.

 I did indulge in a little fast driving on '95 in South Carolina; a
very
 nice W140 and a R129 cruised by at about 90 mph, and I just couldn't



 hold my wagon back.  We briefly exceed 100 in a very nice formation,
all
 the rice burners fell away, then after 30 minutes or so the R129 and



 I had had enough and the S-class faded away in the distance.

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:00 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

 Max likely will; they're in his camera.
 BTW, thanks for your help in steering him to a tire shop; 'found bad



 tire; 'installed spare after resisting sales pitches; 'driving
smoothly
 when they came through here.

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


 Any chance you could post a link to these historic photos?


 On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sounds great Wilton.  Wish there were a few more Benz guys, to
 chat
 cars
 with over lunch around here.  I stopped for coffee today, and
 parked beside a new black 550 CL.  What a great looking car it
 was, and the panel
 and
 trim
 fit was something to behold.  If anyone does it better, I have yet
to
 see
 it, and I've seen pretty much everything.  It was nice to enjoy
 the
 view,
 and dream a bit over coffee today. :-)

 Ed
 300E

 On 5 November 2010 16:25, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  'Just spent a very enjoyable and short coupla hours and lunch
  with
 Max
  Dillon and his beautiful SWMBO and 4-year-old daughter at a
Cracker
 Barrel
  Restaurant just off I-95 near Wilson, NC.  'Also admired his 87
 

Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Rich Thomas

Hairdryer

--R

On 11/9/10 1:22 PM, WILTON wrote:
'Think I used a bit of paint thinner rubbed on striping on 81 300D to 
soften it; likely used a sharpened paint scraper (sharpened ice 
scraper may work good) to run along very slowly and lightly under it 
while being VERY careful not to let it dig into the paint.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dillon, Meade M CIV 
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch



Wilton and I also commented on that; both pin striping colors match the
interior colors (maroon for Wilton, blue for me).  Mine is in pretty
shabby shape, and I'm tempted to try to remove it but would probably not
be too happy with the end result.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:25 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

Nice cars gents.  Interesting, I notice pin-striping on both cars.  A
neighbour brought her 420 SEL up here a few years ago, when she moved
from the US.  I had pin-striping too.  Was this a factory thing in the
US?  I don't think I've even seen a Mercedes in a Canadian showroom, new
or older models, with pin-stripes.

Ed
300E no pin stripes.

On 9 November 2010 08:10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:


I've had very good luck following a fast runner about 300 or 400 yards



back, so they absorb the ticket but I can react to their sudden
braking and slow down without getting attention from the law.  Haven't



had a ticket since about 1989.  NC and VA and WDC, on the other hand,
are usually heavily enforced and I watch the speed very closely in
those states.

Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous; a beautiful blond urchin
in pajamas (picture 2) insisted on asking for a ride in my sexy wagon,



and my Wife let her in!  Wilton was jealous - he needs to get a wagon
too I think.


-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

So you lucked out and SCHP missed a good chance to replenish their
coffers?
;)))

'Glad to know you made it home safely.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


 I'll get the photos and share soon - need to pry SWMBO's blackberry
from
 her hands for a few minutes to download those pix and probably
thousands
 of others that also need to be backed up.

 Much thanks to Wilton for the invite AND picking up the tab.  Was a
very
 nice break during the 540 mile trip, great to finally meet another
 dieselitus maximitus sufferer, we took our time for the rest of
 the trip and rolled into the home driveway at about 10 p.m.

 I did indulge in a little fast driving on '95 in South Carolina; a
very
 nice W140 and a R129 cruised by at about 90 mph, and I just couldn't



 hold my wagon back.  We briefly exceed 100 in a very nice formation,
all
 the rice burners fell away, then after 30 minutes or so the R129 and



 I had had enough and the S-class faded away in the distance.

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:00 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

 Max likely will; they're in his camera.
 BTW, thanks for your help in steering him to a tire shop; 'found bad



 tire; 'installed spare after resisting sales pitches; 'driving
smoothly
 when they came through here.

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


 Any chance you could post a link to these historic photos?


 On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sounds great Wilton.  Wish there were a few more Benz guys, to
 chat
 cars
 with over lunch around here.  I stopped for coffee today, and
 parked beside a new black 550 CL.  What a great looking car it
 was, and the panel
 and
 trim
 fit was something to behold.  If anyone does it better, I have yet
to
 see
 it, and I've seen pretty much everything.  It was nice to enjoy
 the
 view,
 and dream a bit over coffee today. :-)

 Ed
 300E

 On 5 November 2010 16:25, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  'Just spent a very enjoyable and short coupla hours and lunch
  with
 Max
  Dillon and his beautiful SWMBO and 4-year-old daughter at a
Cracker
 Barrel
  Restaurant just off 

Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread E M
I always heat the paintwork and metal up a bit with a hairdryer before
applying touch up paint with a tooth pick.  I find when warm, the paint
spreads out nice into the chip, rather than a glob.  Mind you, don't get it
too hot, or it will dry on contract, and you're be back to a glob again.

Ed
300E

On 9 November 2010 13:33, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote:

 Hairdryer

 --R


 On 11/9/10 1:22 PM, WILTON wrote:

 'Think I used a bit of paint thinner rubbed on striping on 81 300D to
 soften it; likely used a sharpened paint scraper (sharpened ice scraper
 may work good) to run along very slowly and lightly under it while being
 VERY careful not to let it dig into the paint.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Dillon, Meade M CIV
 SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


  Wilton and I also commented on that; both pin striping colors match the
 interior colors (maroon for Wilton, blue for me).  Mine is in pretty
 shabby shape, and I'm tempted to try to remove it but would probably not
 be too happy with the end result.

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:25 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

 Nice cars gents.  Interesting, I notice pin-striping on both cars.  A
 neighbour brought her 420 SEL up here a few years ago, when she moved
 from the US.  I had pin-striping too.  Was this a factory thing in the
 US?  I don't think I've even seen a Mercedes in a Canadian showroom, new
 or older models, with pin-stripes.

 Ed
 300E no pin stripes.

 On 9 November 2010 08:10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
 53310  meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

  I've had very good luck following a fast runner about 300 or 400 yards


  back, so they absorb the ticket but I can react to their sudden
 braking and slow down without getting attention from the law.  Haven't


  had a ticket since about 1989.  NC and VA and WDC, on the other hand,
 are usually heavily enforced and I watch the speed very closely in
 those states.

 Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous; a beautiful blond urchin
 in pajamas (picture 2) insisted on asking for a ride in my sexy wagon,


  and my Wife let her in!  Wilton was jealous - he needs to get a wagon
 too I think.


 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:32 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

 So you lucked out and SCHP missed a good chance to replenish their
 coffers?
 ;)))

 'Glad to know you made it home safely.

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


  I'll get the photos and share soon - need to pry SWMBO's blackberry
 from
  her hands for a few minutes to download those pix and probably
 thousands
  of others that also need to be backed up.
 
  Much thanks to Wilton for the invite AND picking up the tab.  Was a
 very
  nice break during the 540 mile trip, great to finally meet another
  dieselitus maximitus sufferer, we took our time for the rest of
  the trip and rolled into the home driveway at about 10 p.m.
 
  I did indulge in a little fast driving on '95 in South Carolina; a
 very
  nice W140 and a R129 cruised by at about 90 mph, and I just couldn't


   hold my wagon back.  We briefly exceed 100 in a very nice formation,
 all
  the rice burners fell away, then after 30 minutes or so the R129 and


   I had had enough and the S-class faded away in the distance.
 
  -Max
 
  -Original Message-
  From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:00 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
 
  Max likely will; they're in his camera.
  BTW, thanks for your help in steering him to a tire shop; 'found bad


   tire; 'installed spare after resisting sales pitches; 'driving
 smoothly
  when they came through here.
 
  Wilton
 
  - Original Message -
  From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
 
 
  Any chance you could post a link to these historic photos?
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Sounds great Wilton.  Wish there were a few more Benz guys, to
  chat
  cars
  with over lunch around here.  I stopped for coffee today, and
  parked beside a new black 550 CL.  What 

Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread E M
I'm sure you have carpenters razor blades Wilton, as I know you do a lot of
woodwork too.  They're great.  Small enough to work on the detailed stuff,
and ridged  enough to do the work we're talking about.  Just have to go easy
as you say, so as not to dig into the paint. but held on the right angle,
they work great, on paint, or glass.  Nice and sharp too.  Pack of 5 is only
a couple of dollars for anyone looking for them.

Ed
300E

On 9 November 2010 13:22, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Think I used a bit of paint thinner rubbed on striping on 81 300D to
 soften it; likely used a sharpened paint scraper (sharpened ice scraper
 may work good) to run along very slowly and lightly under it while being
 VERY careful not to let it dig into the paint.


 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Dillon, Meade M CIV
 SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:26 AM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


  Wilton and I also commented on that; both pin striping colors match the
 interior colors (maroon for Wilton, blue for me).  Mine is in pretty
 shabby shape, and I'm tempted to try to remove it but would probably not
 be too happy with the end result.

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:25 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

 Nice cars gents.  Interesting, I notice pin-striping on both cars.  A
 neighbour brought her 420 SEL up here a few years ago, when she moved
 from the US.  I had pin-striping too.  Was this a factory thing in the
 US?  I don't think I've even seen a Mercedes in a Canadian showroom, new
 or older models, with pin-stripes.

 Ed
 300E no pin stripes.

 On 9 November 2010 08:10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
 53310  meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

  I've had very good luck following a fast runner about 300 or 400 yards


  back, so they absorb the ticket but I can react to their sudden
 braking and slow down without getting attention from the law.  Haven't


  had a ticket since about 1989.  NC and VA and WDC, on the other hand,
 are usually heavily enforced and I watch the speed very closely in
 those states.

 Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous; a beautiful blond urchin
 in pajamas (picture 2) insisted on asking for a ride in my sexy wagon,


  and my Wife let her in!  Wilton was jealous - he needs to get a wagon
 too I think.


 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:32 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

 So you lucked out and SCHP missed a good chance to replenish their
 coffers?
 ;)))

 'Glad to know you made it home safely.

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


  I'll get the photos and share soon - need to pry SWMBO's blackberry
 from
  her hands for a few minutes to download those pix and probably
 thousands
  of others that also need to be backed up.
 
  Much thanks to Wilton for the invite AND picking up the tab.  Was a
 very
  nice break during the 540 mile trip, great to finally meet another
  dieselitus maximitus sufferer, we took our time for the rest of
  the trip and rolled into the home driveway at about 10 p.m.
 
  I did indulge in a little fast driving on '95 in South Carolina; a
 very
  nice W140 and a R129 cruised by at about 90 mph, and I just couldn't


   hold my wagon back.  We briefly exceed 100 in a very nice formation,
 all
  the rice burners fell away, then after 30 minutes or so the R129 and


   I had had enough and the S-class faded away in the distance.
 
  -Max
 
  -Original Message-
  From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:00 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
 
  Max likely will; they're in his camera.
  BTW, thanks for your help in steering him to a tire shop; 'found bad


   tire; 'installed spare after resisting sales pitches; 'driving
 smoothly
  when they came through here.
 
  Wilton
 
  - Original Message -
  From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
 
 
  Any chance you could post a link to these historic photos?
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Sounds great Wilton.  Wish there were a few more Benz guys, to
  chat
  cars
  with over lunch around here.  I stopped for 

Re: [MBZ] Hey Rusty! W126 Euro headlights?

2010-11-09 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Hi Alex:

I have a pair of these (Bosch) that I bought locally to install on my '85
300SD.  But I never did.  They appear to be in very good condition with
perfect glass.  Contact me off list if you are interested.  I can take some
pics for you if you would like to try to work something out

Greg
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Hey Rusty! W126 Euro headlights?

Does Bimby have any specials running right now on Euro headlight
packages for the early (mine's an '82) W126?  If not what are the
current prices for Bosch and for the cheap repros?

(I discovered that RRing the SLS reservoir to give it a good cleaning
and check for leaks is a lot easier when you remove the left headlight
and mounting bezel first... then I thought, if I'm pulling the crummy
DOT headlight anyway, why not put back a real one?  The
old-car-parts-replacement domino effect strikes again...)

Thanks,
Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread E M
...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
   Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:00 AM
   To: Mercedes Discussion List
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
  
   Max likely will; they're in his camera.
   BTW, thanks for your help in steering him to a tire shop; 'found bad
   tire; 'installed spare after resisting sales pitches; 'driving
  smoothly
   when they came through here.
  
   Wilton
  
   - Original Message -
   From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
   Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:09 AM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
  
  
   Any chance you could post a link to these historic photos?
  
  
   On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Sounds great Wilton. Wish there were a few more Benz guys, to chat
   cars
   with over lunch around here. I stopped for coffee today, and parked
   beside
   a new black 550 CL. What a great looking car it was, and the panel
   and
   trim
   fit was something to behold. If anyone does it better, I have yet
  to
   see
   it, and I've seen pretty much everything. It was nice to enjoy the
   view,
   and dream a bit over coffee today. :-)
  
   Ed
   300E
  
   On 5 November 2010 16:25, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
  
'Just spent a very enjoyable and short coupla hours and lunch
 with
   Max
Dillon and his beautiful SWMBO and 4-year-old daughter at a
  Cracker
   Barrel
Restaurant just off I-95 near Wilson, NC. 'Also admired his 87
   300TD
   (332
kmi). His SWMBO got 3 or 4 photos of us with our respective
  nearly
  
twin
Arctic White TD and 300D.
   
Wilton
   
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Re: [MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...

2010-11-09 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
It was listed a while ago... its a 280.  W123.  (Not a 280E, I think... )



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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

 Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous;
 Interesting pair of white 124s.

Do Max and Wilton both live in states that don't require a front
license plate, or did they take them off for the photos? If the
former, I believe the plain center section of the W124 front bumper is
still available.  (Rusty?)  Would look nicer than those lonely
mounting tabs hanging down there.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Rusty Cullens

Yes, still available.

Rusty Cullens
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch



On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:


Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous;

Interesting pair of white 124s.


Do Max and Wilton both live in states that don't require a front
license plate, or did they take them off for the photos? If the
former, I believe the plain center section of the W124 front bumper is
still available.  (Rusty?)  Would look nicer than those lonely
mounting tabs hanging down there.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Mitch Haley

E M wrote:

I'm sure you have carpenters razor blades Wilton, as I know you do a lot of
woodwork too.  They're great.  Small enough to work on the detailed stuff,
and ridged  enough to do the work we're talking about.  Just have to go easy
as you say, so as not to dig into the paint. but held on the right angle,
they work great, on paint, or glass.  Nice and sharp too.  Pack of 5 is only
a couple of dollars for anyone looking for them.


Like these?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M5WUP6/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Mitch Haley

E M wrote:

I've seen it done on TV, with a small angled striping brush.  Take a hand
that's a lot steadier than mine!  I would imagine the hard part, is getting
both sides the same, and keeping the line smooth when reloading the brush.

I wouldn't want it on my car to be honest, but I can appreciate the skill it
takes to do it well.


What about those JC Whitney striping kits, with the bottle fed stripe rollers 
and guide wheel to hold a straight line?


Do they still sell those things?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I've got far to many MB projects to spend time and money on, don't tempt
me with another!

-Max 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

Yes, still available.

Rusty Cullens
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- Original Message -
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

 Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous;
 Interesting pair of white 124s.
 
 Do Max and Wilton both live in states that don't require a front
 license plate, or did they take them off for the photos? If the
 former, I believe the plain center section of the W124 front bumper is
 still available.  (Rusty?)  Would look nicer than those lonely
 mounting tabs hanging down there.
 
 Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Allan Streib
 What about those JC Whitney striping kits, with the bottle fed stripe
 rollers and guide wheel to hold a straight line?

 Do they still sell those things?

I would guess, like most painting gadgets that are marketed to amateurs,
that you would have mediocre results.  If they were really so great, the
pros would use them, but they don't, they pinstripe by hand.

Same with professional house painters, they don't use all those edging
gadgets or even tape most of the time.  They have a good brush and they
cut in around trim and fixtures by hand.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear spring link and supporting link RR

2010-11-09 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
OK Don,

I'll be doing the same job shortly on my '95.  Looks like if you remove
the spring link (no spring compressor required, just jack stands and a
floor jack), then you'll have access to press out the old and press in
the new.

If you fabricate sleeves and pieces to work with the Harbor Freight ball
joint press, I'd be happy to rent them or purchase them from you.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 8:40 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear spring link and supporting link RR

But - do you need a spring compressor to do the job?
I'm thinking of trying to fabricate the press in/out tool as shown in
35-114 instead of removing the wheel carrier.

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Peter Frederick
psf...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Link must come off, as the wheel carrier has to come off.  I don't 
 remember if the bushing is in the link or in the carrier,  but it must

 be pressed in and out, it's not a slip fit.

 Another job I will get to know in greater detail soon, as the rear 
 suspension needs a complete overhaul on the 300D.

 Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Max

2010-11-09 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I've had my eye on that one; price is getting close to what I'd pay, but
I'd really like to find a '94 or '95 wagon as the recipient...

-Max 

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Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 8:13 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Hey Max

Drop your diesel drivetrain right in here
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2047266951.html

--R


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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread E M
Exactly, but I usually buy in the small 5 packs, and get taken for a ride
with the price.  Cheaper to buy the 100 pack in the link, even though it
would take a lifetime of scraping to get through them all.

Ed
300E

On 9 November 2010 14:50, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 E M wrote:

 I'm sure you have carpenters razor blades Wilton, as I know you do a lot
 of
 woodwork too.  They're great.  Small enough to work on the detailed stuff,
 and ridged  enough to do the work we're talking about.  Just have to go
 easy
 as you say, so as not to dig into the paint. but held on the right angle,
 they work great, on paint, or glass.  Nice and sharp too.  Pack of 5 is
 only
 a couple of dollars for anyone looking for them.


 Like these?

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M5WUP6/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

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[MBZ] Is this something I'd want to get into?

2010-11-09 Thread Allan Streib
http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2049746883.html

Wife could use a new vehicle soon... yet I don't know anything about the M 
class.  How do they hold up?  Are they easy to work on?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread E M
I would imagine you still need to make a tape guideline or something.  Even
with that, I'd probably be all over the panels! lol  Maybe tint shops and
other places that offer such services also offer striping at a reasonable
price?

Ed
300E

On 9 November 2010 14:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 E M wrote:

 I've seen it done on TV, with a small angled striping brush.  Take a hand
 that's a lot steadier than mine!  I would imagine the hard part, is
 getting
 both sides the same, and keeping the line smooth when reloading the brush.

 I wouldn't want it on my car to be honest, but I can appreciate the skill
 it
 takes to do it well.


 What about those JC Whitney striping kits, with the bottle fed stripe
 rollers and guide wheel to hold a straight line?

 Do they still sell those things?

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Is this something I'd want to get into?

2010-11-09 Thread E M
Well, it gets 25 mpg, but then again, it only has 2 cylinders.  Must be
pretty honk'n cylinders out of a Merlin or something though, as it's a 3.2
litre!  hee hee

I don't know a lot about the series run, but I know the early ones had all
kinds of problems.  Then again, at $3000, if you do the work, and Rusty has
parts for it, it might work out to be pretty economical motoring for you.

Ed
300E

On 9 November 2010 15:56, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2049746883.html

 Wife could use a new vehicle soon... yet I don't know anything about the M
 class.  How do they hold up?  Are they easy to work on?

 Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON

Yep, that should help, too.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch



Hairdryer

--R

On 11/9/10 1:22 PM, WILTON wrote:
'Think I used a bit of paint thinner rubbed on striping on 81 300D to 
soften it; likely used a sharpened paint scraper (sharpened ice scraper 
may work good) to run along very slowly and lightly under it while being 
VERY careful not to let it dig into the paint.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dillon, Meade M CIV 
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch



Wilton and I also commented on that; both pin striping colors match the
interior colors (maroon for Wilton, blue for me).  Mine is in pretty
shabby shape, and I'm tempted to try to remove it but would probably not
be too happy with the end result.

-Max

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:25 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

Nice cars gents.  Interesting, I notice pin-striping on both cars.  A
neighbour brought her 420 SEL up here a few years ago, when she moved
from the US.  I had pin-striping too.  Was this a factory thing in the
US?  I don't think I've even seen a Mercedes in a Canadian showroom, new
or older models, with pin-stripes.

Ed
300E no pin stripes.

On 9 November 2010 08:10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:


I've had very good luck following a fast runner about 300 or 400 yards



back, so they absorb the ticket but I can react to their sudden
braking and slow down without getting attention from the law.  Haven't



had a ticket since about 1989.  NC and VA and WDC, on the other hand,
are usually heavily enforced and I watch the speed very closely in
those states.

Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous; a beautiful blond urchin
in pajamas (picture 2) insisted on asking for a ride in my sexy wagon,



and my Wife let her in!  Wilton was jealous - he needs to get a wagon
too I think.


-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

So you lucked out and SCHP missed a good chance to replenish their
coffers?
;)))

'Glad to know you made it home safely.

Wilton

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From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


 I'll get the photos and share soon - need to pry SWMBO's blackberry
from
 her hands for a few minutes to download those pix and probably
thousands
 of others that also need to be backed up.

 Much thanks to Wilton for the invite AND picking up the tab.  Was a
very
 nice break during the 540 mile trip, great to finally meet another
 dieselitus maximitus sufferer, we took our time for the rest of
 the trip and rolled into the home driveway at about 10 p.m.

 I did indulge in a little fast driving on '95 in South Carolina; a
very
 nice W140 and a R129 cruised by at about 90 mph, and I just couldn't



 hold my wagon back.  We briefly exceed 100 in a very nice formation,
all
 the rice burners fell away, then after 30 minutes or so the R129 and



 I had had enough and the S-class faded away in the distance.

 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:00 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

 Max likely will; they're in his camera.
 BTW, thanks for your help in steering him to a tire shop; 'found bad



 tire; 'installed spare after resisting sales pitches; 'driving
smoothly
 when they came through here.

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


 Any chance you could post a link to these historic photos?


 On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sounds great Wilton.  Wish there were a few more Benz guys, to
 chat
 cars
 with over lunch around here.  I stopped for coffee today, and
 parked beside a new black 550 CL.  What a great looking car it
 was, and the panel
 and
 trim
 fit was something to behold.  If anyone does it better, I have yet
to
 see
 it, and I've seen pretty much everything.  It was nice to enjoy
 the
 view,
 and dream a bit over coffee 

Re: [MBZ] Is this something I'd want to get into?

2010-11-09 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2049746883.html


One tire needs replaced soon, it has 1 new tire and the others are 70% or so.

That's a deal-breaker right there as far as I'm concerned.  The seller
is an idiot, cheap, or careless (or all three).  On any modern car
with a full-time 4WD system, you have to replace both tires on the
same axle at the same time, preferably all four at once, to avoid
premature failure of the drivetrain caused by the difference in the
diameter of new vs. old tires and of one brand vs. another.  This
isn't just the manufacturers' lawyers being cautious; I've heard
reliable reports of it happening on '80s and '90s Audis and Subarus.
I'd bet that the owner's manual for the ML says so in big capital
letters.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON

Yes, that, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


I'm sure you have carpenters razor blades Wilton, as I know you do a lot 
of

woodwork too.  They're great.  Small enough to work on the detailed stuff,
and ridged  enough to do the work we're talking about.  Just have to go 
easy

as you say, so as not to dig into the paint. but held on the right angle,
they work great, on paint, or glass.  Nice and sharp too.  Pack of 5 is 
only

a couple of dollars for anyone looking for them.

Ed
300E

On 9 November 2010 13:22, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


'Think I used a bit of paint thinner rubbed on striping on 81 300D to
soften it; likely used a sharpened paint scraper (sharpened ice scraper
may work good) to run along very slowly and lightly under it while being
VERY careful not to let it dig into the paint.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:26 AM

Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


 Wilton and I also commented on that; both pin striping colors match the

interior colors (maroon for Wilton, blue for me).  Mine is in pretty
shabby shape, and I'm tempted to try to remove it but would probably not
be too happy with the end result.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:25 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

Nice cars gents.  Interesting, I notice pin-striping on both cars.  A
neighbour brought her 420 SEL up here a few years ago, when she moved
from the US.  I had pin-striping too.  Was this a factory thing in the
US?  I don't think I've even seen a Mercedes in a Canadian showroom, new
or older models, with pin-stripes.

Ed
300E no pin stripes.

On 9 November 2010 08:10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 I've had very good luck following a fast runner about 300 or 400 yards




 back, so they absorb the ticket but I can react to their sudden

braking and slow down without getting attention from the law.  Haven't



 had a ticket since about 1989.  NC and VA and WDC, on the other hand,

are usually heavily enforced and I watch the speed very closely in
those states.

Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous; a beautiful blond urchin
in pajamas (picture 2) insisted on asking for a ride in my sexy wagon,



 and my Wife let her in!  Wilton was jealous - he needs to get a wagon

too I think.


-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

So you lucked out and SCHP missed a good chance to replenish their
coffers?
;)))

'Glad to know you made it home safely.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


 I'll get the photos and share soon - need to pry SWMBO's blackberry
from
 her hands for a few minutes to download those pix and probably
thousands
 of others that also need to be backed up.

 Much thanks to Wilton for the invite AND picking up the tab.  Was a
very
 nice break during the 540 mile trip, great to finally meet another
 dieselitus maximitus sufferer, we took our time for the rest of
 the trip and rolled into the home driveway at about 10 p.m.

 I did indulge in a little fast driving on '95 in South Carolina; a
very
 nice W140 and a R129 cruised by at about 90 mph, and I just couldn't



  hold my wagon back.  We briefly exceed 100 in a very nice formation,

all
 the rice burners fell away, then after 30 minutes or so the R129 and



  I had had enough and the S-class faded away in the distance.


 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:00 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

 Max likely will; they're in his camera.
 BTW, thanks for your help in steering him to a tire shop; 'found bad



  tire; 'installed spare after resisting sales pitches; 'driving

smoothly
 when they came through here.

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


 Any chance you could post a link to these historic photos?


 On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com 

Re: [MBZ] Is this something I'd want to get into?

2010-11-09 Thread Allan Streib
I know that's true on viscous-coupling AWD systems such as used by VW and Audi 
in that era, is that what the ML uses also?

Allan


On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 13:22 -0800, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 wrote:
  http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2049746883.html
 
 
 One tire needs replaced soon, it has 1 new tire and the others are 70%
 or so.
 
 That's a deal-breaker right there as far as I'm concerned.  The seller
 is an idiot, cheap, or careless (or all three).  On any modern car
 with a full-time 4WD system, you have to replace both tires on the
 same axle at the same time, preferably all four at once, to avoid
 premature failure of the drivetrain caused by the difference in the
 diameter of new vs. old tires and of one brand vs. another.  This
 isn't just the manufacturers' lawyers being cautious; I've heard
 reliable reports of it happening on '80s and '90s Audis and Subarus.
 I'd bet that the owner's manual for the ML says so in big capital
 letters.
 
 Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON
I agree wholeheartedly.  We don't need front plates, (NC for me; SC for Max) 
and I have the plain insert for that area; 'think I got it from Rusty 
several years ago.  'Haven't decided on an alternative to removing the 
bumper to replace it, yet.  'Fi could just get the old one off simply, I'd 
just glue the new one on, maybe.  Max and I discussed that, too.  May have 
to bite the dust and do it right, anyway.  'Fi had not been nearly 
disabled for several years, it would have been done years ago.


BTW, in about 1958, I was returning to Lincoln, NE, from Omaha one Sat 
afternoon on my 51 Chevy with single NC plate (black with yellow lettering 
much like NE plates of the time) on back.  NE required 2 plates.  'Met NE 
highway patrolman; in my mirror, 'saw his brake lights come on immediately 
and watched as he hurriedly turned around and came whipping up behind me. 
'Thought to myself, He thinks he has caught another one (NE vehicle) with 
just one plate.  He came close up on my rear bumper very fast, then quickly 
braked, turned around and went on his way.


Wilton

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From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch



On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:


Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous;

Interesting pair of white 124s.


Do Max and Wilton both live in states that don't require a front
license plate, or did they take them off for the photos? If the
former, I believe the plain center section of the W124 front bumper is
still available.  (Rusty?)  Would look nicer than those lonely
mounting tabs hanging down there.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON
In fact, I have a box of 'em like that.  'Got away from using 'em so much 
when my tremor was so bad.


Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch



E M wrote:
I'm sure you have carpenters razor blades Wilton, as I know you do a lot 
of
woodwork too.  They're great.  Small enough to work on the detailed 
stuff,
and ridged  enough to do the work we're talking about.  Just have to go 
easy

as you say, so as not to dig into the paint. but held on the right angle,
they work great, on paint, or glass.  Nice and sharp too.  Pack of 5 is 
only

a couple of dollars for anyone looking for them.


Like these?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M5WUP6/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Peter Frederick
That's almost as good and the summer student we had at Foresty Canada  
the last year I was up there.


He was driving a dual fuel Lada (aka Fiat 131, Russian version) and  
decided to go visit family in Michigan.


Not only that, he had two sets of valid plates on the car (BC which  
had front and rear and NorthWest Territories -- rear only).   
Naturally, the car quit on him about an hour south of Sault Ste  
Marie.  He sat on the side of the road for 5 hours because no one  
would stop, had to have it towed back to Canada (no parts for Ladas  
in the US, of course, not even Fiat parts, for that matter) and then  
they didn't want to let him in because it was double registered.


College kids, eh?  What a blast when they aren't your kids!

Peter

On Nov 9, 2010, at 3:46 PM, WILTON wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly.  We don't need front plates, (NC for me; SC  
for Max) and I have the plain insert for that area; 'think I got it  
from Rusty several years ago.  'Haven't decided on an alternative  
to removing the bumper to replace it, yet.  'Fi could just get the  
old one off simply, I'd just glue the new one on, maybe.  Max and I  
discussed that, too.  May have to bite the dust and do it right,  
anyway.  'Fi had not been nearly disabled for several years, it  
would have been done years ago.


BTW, in about 1958, I was returning to Lincoln, NE, from Omaha one  
Sat afternoon on my 51 Chevy with single NC plate (black with  
yellow lettering much like NE plates of the time) on back.  NE  
required 2 plates.  'Met NE highway patrolman; in my mirror, 'saw  
his brake lights come on immediately and watched as he hurriedly  
turned around and came whipping up behind me. 'Thought to myself,  
He thinks he has caught another one (NE vehicle) with just one  
plate.  He came close up on my rear bumper very fast, then quickly  
braked, turned around and went on his way.


Wilton

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apchamberl...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch



On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:


Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous;

Interesting pair of white 124s.


Do Max and Wilton both live in states that don't require a front
license plate, or did they take them off for the photos? If the
former, I believe the plain center section of the W124 front  
bumper is

still available.  (Rusty?)  Would look nicer than those lonely
mounting tabs hanging down there.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread E M
All he needed was a Swiss plate too, and he could have told the guard at the
crossing he worked for Her Majesty's Secret Service.

LADA the new stealth Bond-mobile.

Ed
300E

On 9 November 2010 16:56, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:


 Not only that, he had two sets of valid plates on the car (BC which had
 front and rear and NorthWest Territories -- rear only)
 Peter


 On Nov 9, 2010, at 3:46 PM, WILTON wrote:

  I agree wholeheartedly.  We don't need front plates, (NC for me; SC for
 Max) and I have the plain insert for that area; 'think I got it from Rusty
 several years ago.  'Haven't decided on an alternative to removing the
 bumper to replace it, yet.  'Fi could just get the old one off simply, I'd
 just glue the new one on, maybe.  Max and I discussed that, too.  May have
 to bite the dust and do it right, anyway.  'Fi had not been nearly
 disabled for several years, it would have been done years ago.

 BTW, in about 1958, I was returning to Lincoln, NE, from Omaha one Sat
 afternoon on my 51 Chevy with single NC plate (black with yellow lettering
 much like NE plates of the time) on back.  NE required 2 plates.  'Met NE
 highway patrolman; in my mirror, 'saw his brake lights come on immediately
 and watched as he hurriedly turned around and came whipping up behind me.
 'Thought to myself, He thinks he has caught another one (NE vehicle) with
 just one plate.  He came close up on my rear bumper very fast, then quickly
 braked, turned around and went on his way.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain 
 apchamberl...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


  On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:


 Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous;

 Interesting pair of white 124s.


 Do Max and Wilton both live in states that don't require a front
 license plate, or did they take them off for the photos? If the
 former, I believe the plain center section of the W124 front bumper is
 still available.  (Rusty?)  Would look nicer than those lonely
 mounting tabs hanging down there.

 Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Which?

2010-11-09 Thread RELNGSON
 ...240D? 280E? Grey market 300D or 230E?..
 
Likely a 280E since the top of 1st gear mark is at 34+mph. Second, that 
style of headlight was not in the low end models which eliminates the 
4-cylinder model.

Had both styles of 123 Euro lights and know the difference on sight.

RLE

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[MBZ] someone must want this

2010-11-09 Thread Allan Streib
190d with a 5-speed... http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/2039993061.html

no interest, etc...

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON
'Not gonna have a stealer sticker on my car, either - not on the car, not on 
the license plate - nowhere.  'First thing I did to 81 300D I bought from 
90-year-old friend years ago was to use dental floss to cut through glue 
behind stealer metal badge on trunk.  'Don't remember what mild solvent I 
used to remove rest of glue, but I got it off fairly readily.  Color of car 
was ivory (623) and was 18+ years old; paint behind badge was ever so 
slightly darker than rest of car, but I blended it very nicely with 
rubbing compound; 'quickly got so it was not noticeable at all.


In '85, I helped older son buy a new Toyota little sport something (GT or 
GTS?); 'took stealer a few weeks to get the car; I told salesman, Don't put 
a sticker on it; if you do, I'm gonna be damned mad.  When salesman called 
to say they had just gotten the car and that it would be ready in coupla 
hours, I reminded the salesman, Don't put a sticker on it.  When we pulled 
into the lot, first thing I saw was the sticker on the trunk.  I asked 
salesman, Didn't I tell you I was gonna be damned mad if you put a sticker 
on it?  He replied, Oh, we put stickers on all of our cars.  My reply, 
But in a few minutes, it won't be YOURS.  It'll come off as soon as we get 
home.  They've never gotten another penny from me.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch



Being white cars, I don't think fading would be as big a deal than if the
paint was darker.  If it's just the stick on type, I'm sure you could get 
it

off, and then use a mild compound to flatten out, and remove any glue.

I also tell the dealer when I get a new car, NO DEALER STICKERS on my 
car,

unless you want to send me a cheque monthly for helping out with your
advertising!  If it's a used vehicle on the lot, as I've bought before, I
just carefully remove them with a carpenters razor blade, compound, then
wax.  Can't even see where the sticker has been.  I've never done it on a
car more than a couple of years old, so after that, differences in paint
shade may happen, due to fading.

I'm just not a sticker of any type kinda guy.  I think with a new Benz,
there is a no charge delete option, to remove all the model badging.  I 
know

BMW offer it.  The times I've seen it, it here, it's often to try and
conceal that the entry level car was purchased.  My understanding, in
Germany, it is more common for the higher end models to opt for the 
option,

to be more stealthy.  I tend to prefer the low profile, don't flaunt it
approach myself.  That's not to say I don't still want the twin turbo V12
engine under the hood, I just don't want the Ferrari guys to see what's
about to hit them!  hee hee.

Ed
300E

On 9 November 2010 10:26, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 


meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:


Wilton and I also commented on that; both pin striping colors match the
interior colors (maroon for Wilton, blue for me).  Mine is in pretty
shabby shape, and I'm tempted to try to remove it but would probably not
be too happy with the end result.

-Max

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

Nice cars gents.  Interesting, I notice pin-striping on both cars.  A
neighbour brought her 420 SEL up here a few years ago, when she moved
from the US.  I had pin-striping too.  Was this a factory thing in the
US?  I don't think I've even seen a Mercedes in a Canadian showroom, new
or older models, with pin-stripes.

Ed
300E no pin stripes.

On 9 November 2010 08:10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 I've had very good luck following a fast runner about 300 or 400 yards

 back, so they absorb the ticket but I can react to their sudden
 braking and slow down without getting attention from the law.  Haven't

 had a ticket since about 1989.  NC and VA and WDC, on the other hand,
 are usually heavily enforced and I watch the speed very closely in
 those states.

 Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous; a beautiful blond urchin
 in pajamas (picture 2) insisted on asking for a ride in my sexy wagon,

 and my Wife let her in!  Wilton was jealous - he needs to get a wagon
 too I think.


 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:32 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

 So you lucked out and SCHP missed a good chance to replenish their
 coffers?
 ;)))

 'Glad to know you made it home safely.

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
 To: Mercedes Discussion 

Re: [MBZ] someone must want this

2010-11-09 Thread Mitch Haley

Allan Streib wrote:

190d with a 5-speed... http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/2039993061.html


A 190D 2.5 that gets 44mpg with a dead odometer?
Not only is the claimed mileage at least 20% high, how would they know if the 
ODO reads 0mpg?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread harry watkins
Perhaps a sign shop is a good choice.  while waiting for my yard signs to be 
made I saw two workers doing a sheriff's car.  One was selecting patterns on 
a computer screen, clicking run and a machine loaded with a roll, cut the 
piece.  The other guy was coming and going to the car and stayed ahead of 
the guy inside.  The car looked nice.


Harry
86 300 SDL


I would imagine you still need to make a tape guideline or something.  Even
with that, I'd probably be all over the panels! lol  Maybe tint shops and
other places that offer such services also offer striping at a reasonable
price?

Ed
300E



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Re: [MBZ] someone must want this

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON

GPS?

Wilton

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Allan Streib wrote:
190d with a 5-speed... 
http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/2039993061.html


A 190D 2.5 that gets 44mpg with a dead odometer?
Not only is the claimed mileage at least 20% high, how would they know if 
the ODO reads 0mpg?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Euro headlights?

2010-11-09 Thread Barry Stark
Randy -
 Hadn't thought about that. You're probably right. Of course on my '81 cars
the stock lighting is all with regular fuses. The stock configuration is
such that there is one fuse for each bulb so if you lost one low beam fuse
you would still have the other low beam and both high beams. I'm trying to
remember the way I wired the relay kit and I believe that there are now just
two 60A fuses. One for Lows and one for Highs. So if you did lose one fuse
you would still have either both lows or both highs. If I was to do it over
again I think I would go to my local McParts and buy the new style fuses
holders with a pigtail that use the double spade connection type fuses that
they use on all the new cars. I guess it would be good as well to go back to
using 4 fuses or the circuit breakers too.

Barry



 I keep seeing references to fuses and headlights. Is that not
 considered
 poor practice? My recollection is that one should use circuit breakers
 for headlights in the hope that they will re-set themselves if there is
 a momentary problem and not just burn out and leave you in the dark.
 
 Randy



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Re: [MBZ] someone must want this

2010-11-09 Thread Mountain Man
Mitch wrote:
 A 190D 2.5 that gets 44mpg with a dead odometer?

Wasn't there a 2.2 diesel?
What makes you think this is a 2.5?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] someone must want this

2010-11-09 Thread Mitch Haley

Mountain Man wrote:

Mitch wrote:

A 190D 2.5 that gets 44mpg with a dead odometer?


Wasn't there a 2.2 diesel?
What makes you think this is a 2.5?


It's a 1986, not a '83 or '84, and I assume it's a US model.

190E gave you a choice of 2.3 or 2.6, 190D were 2.2 for two years, then 2.5 
through 1989.


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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread Dieselhead
In the 60s and early 70s,  BMW motorcycle tanks were all hand 
pinstriped.  I changed my 70 /5 from silver/Blue to the classic 
Schwarz/weiss colors.  I found a guy down by the river in Nauvoo, Il 
who was supposed to be good at hand pinstriping.  After I had the 
tank painted Black imron, I took it to him for striping, which he 
said was no problem, as he had done many BMW tanks.  I also asked him 
to do some additional lettering and scrollwork.


When I got the tank back, I was amazed at the artwork he had done. 
All by hand.  I still have the tank.  He told me that pinstriping was 
done with flat leather brushes


I think JCWhitney still sells the flat pinstriping brushes.


  What about those JC Whitney striping kits, with the bottle fed stripe

 rollers and guide wheel to hold a straight line?

 Do they still sell those things?


I would guess, like most painting gadgets that are marketed to amateurs,
that you would have mediocre results.  If they were really so great, the
pros would use them, but they don't, they pinstripe by hand.

Same with professional house painters, they don't use all those edging
gadgets or even tape most of the time.  They have a good brush and they
cut in around trim and fixtures by hand.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Euro headlights?

2010-11-09 Thread Jim Cathey
I keep seeing references to fuses and headlights. Is that not 
considered poor practice? My recollection is that one should use 
circuit breakers for headlights in the hope that they will re-set 
themselves if there is a momentary problem and not just burn out and 
leave you in the dark.


The stock MB solution is fuses.  Seems to work great.  You
want more than one, though, so that one fuse flaking out
doesn't hurt you too bad.  (Stock is 5, IIRC.)  Breakers
aren't exactly 100% reliable, either.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] ADHD

2010-11-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
Uh ... You're a loser.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Your a looser.

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Re: [MBZ] Real flying

2010-11-09 Thread OK Don
I'm leaning this way right now --
http://www.doubleeagleairplane.com/

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:42 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Go ahead; just write check.  ;))

 Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear spring link and supporting link RR

2010-11-09 Thread OK Don
I'll keep that in mind. I'm going to get a quote from a frame/alignment shop
next week - might save myself the hassle if the price isn't too high.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 OK Don,

 I'll be doing the same job shortly on my '95.  Looks like if you remove
 the spring link (no spring compressor required, just jack stands and a
 floor jack), then you'll have access to press out the old and press in
 the new.

 If you fabricate sleeves and pieces to work with the Harbor Freight ball
 joint press, I'd be happy to rent them or purchase them from you.

 -Max

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Re: [MBZ] Is this something I'd want to get into?

2010-11-09 Thread OK Don
My 2001 ML 320 gets 22.3mpg on the highway, and 19 in town. I paid twice
that for mine, but it had $7200 of work done on it before I bought it. Water
pump, radiator, power steering pump, and the alternator were the biggies.
It doesn't seem to be too hard to work on, though I've only messed with the
expansion valve and receiver/dryer so far. You do need a set each of male
and female torx bits/sockets - they are everywhere on that car.
It dirves/rides like a truck - which is what it is - don't expect it to
drive like a W124. It's a well behaved truck, but there's nothing soft about
it (other than the seats after a leatherique treatment).

The all wheel drive is a chain in the transfer case, with independent wheel
braking for traction loss management. I'll see how that works this winter.

I did not see anything in the owners manual about replacing all four tires
at once, but I wasn't looking for it, since that's what I do as SOP.
I found quite a bit of information about the W163 at
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/m-class-w163-10/.
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 I know that's true on viscous-coupling AWD systems such as used by VW and
 Audi in that era, is that what the ML uses also?

 Allan


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Re: [MBZ] someone must want this

2010-11-09 Thread OK Don
My son's '84 190D 2.2 5-speed gets 42 on the highway - but he drives it
like he stole it ALL the time. He loves driving it, and that one looks alot
better than my son's does.
My technical data manual lists only the 2.5 Diesel in '86.


On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Mountain Man wrote:

 Mitch wrote:

 A 190D 2.5 that gets 44mpg with a dead odometer?


 Wasn't there a 2.2 diesel?
 What makes you think this is a 2.5?


 It's a 1986, not a '83 or '84, and I assume it's a US model.

 190E gave you a choice of 2.3 or 2.6, 190D were 2.2 for two years, then 2.5
 through 1989.


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Re: [MBZ] W126 Euro headlights?

2010-11-09 Thread OK Don
That's one reason there are spare fuses in the fuse box! - You have to stop
and change the blown fuse - you'd have to stop and reset a breaker - seems
the same either way to me.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

  I keep seeing references to fuses and headlights. Is that not considered
 poor practice? My recollection is that one should use circuit breakers for
 headlights in the hope that they will re-set themselves if there is a
 momentary problem and not just burn out and leave you in the dark.


 The stock MB solution is fuses.  Seems to work great.  You
 want more than one, though, so that one fuse flaking out
 doesn't hurt you too bad.  (Stock is 5, IIRC.)  Breakers
 aren't exactly 100% reliable, either.


 -- Jim --


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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear spring link and supporting link RR

2010-11-09 Thread Dieselhead
Take off the wheel carrier and take it to the alignment shop, along 
with the new bushings.  Not too much money.   When I did mine, I 
think it was $35.  (after you recover from sicker shock at that the 
shop wants to RR and align.)




I'll keep that in mind. I'm going to get a quote from a frame/alignment shop
next week - might save myself the hassle if the price isn't too high.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:


 OK Don,

 I'll be doing the same job shortly on my '95.  Looks like if you remove
 the spring link (no spring compressor required, just jack stands and a
 floor jack), then you'll have access to press out the old and press in
 the new.

 If you fabricate sleeves and pieces to work with the Harbor Freight ball
 joint press, I'd be happy to rent them or purchase them from you.

 -Max


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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread OK Don
At what price? I hate that empty plate spot in the front bumper. That's one
reason I mounted the Aussie kangaroo that Fay nad Hendrick brought -- it
does add a bit of unusual class to the smoke silver W124.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, still available.


 Rusty Cullens

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

2010-11-09 Thread OK Don
I have an old brass pin-striper - it's a cylinder with a plunger, and a
knurled wheel running in a slot at the bottom. There's a guide arm on one
side that's adjustable, but it's just a brass rod. I've never tried to use
it - it looks like paint would just run right out around the wheel. I
pin-striped my '51 VW when I re-painted it in college - by hand. It was OK,
but not perfectly straight like the pro can do.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the 60s and early 70s,  BMW motorcycle tanks were all hand pinstriped.
  I changed my 70 /5 from silver/Blue to the classic Schwarz/weiss colors.  I
 found a guy down by the river in Nauvoo, Il who was supposed to be good at
 hand pinstriping.  After I had the tank painted Black imron, I took it to
 him for striping, which he said was no problem, as he had done many BMW
 tanks.  I also asked him to do some additional lettering and scrollwork.

 When I got the tank back, I was amazed at the artwork he had done. All by
 hand.  I still have the tank.  He told me that pinstriping was done with
 flat leather brushes

 I think JCWhitney still sells the flat pinstriping brushes.


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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear spring link and supporting link RR

2010-11-09 Thread OK Don
I couldn't get the lower bolt out of the wheel carrier with a 4# hammer --
guess I could leave it on the lower control arm and take the whole thing to
them to press out ---

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Take off the wheel carrier and take it to the alignment shop, along with
 the new bushings.  Not too much money.   When I did mine, I think it was
 $35.  (after you recover from sicker shock at that the shop wants to RR and
 align.)




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Re: [MBZ] Real flying

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON

Hey, maybe I could afford one of those!

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Real flying



I'm leaning this way right now --
http://www.doubleeagleairplane.com/

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:42 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Go ahead; just write check.  ;))

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Real flying

2010-11-09 Thread E M
Anytime I've heard an old VW engine wound up to where it sounds like that,
it wasn't very long before it went BANG!  hee hee.

Ed
300E

On 9 November 2010 22:33, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Hey, maybe I could afford one of those!

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Real flying


  I'm leaning this way right now --
 http://www.doubleeagleairplane.com/

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:42 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Go ahead; just write check.  ;))

 Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...

2010-11-09 Thread RELNGSON
 ...240D? 280E? Grey market 300D or 230E?..
 
 
Likely a 280E since the top of 1st gear mark is at 34+mph. Second, that 
style of headlight was not in the low end models which eliminates the 
4-cylinder model.

Had both styles of 123 Euro lights and know the difference on sight.

RLE
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