Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I MANAGED TO GET 100% DIESELFIED IN 1984.   Never regretted it.  Still 
disappointed that no van is available in the USA with a MFI Diesel 
engine.  The Metris did not have a stellar reputation in RTW, or I might 
have tried harder to get one of them.  The 100% Dieselfication ended in 
2006 when I inherited the company D GC.


If it was not for the van and the SL we'd could be DIeselfied in 2 
generations.  But the SL sits and she drives my 300D that was supposed 
to be SWMBOs.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 14, 2017 at 2:22 PM
Yup. Certified dieselmania. I don’t believe there is a known cure, 
short of death.


And no, I’ve got to pass this car along to the oldest boy. No loss of 
focus for the finnie. I’ve already been tempted by others and been 
able to avoid them. I’m dead set on a finnie to replace the W123 300D 
and nothing else.


What’s funny is that I took the youngest for a ride in it and now he 
says he wants a diesel….my plan to overtake the family with diesel is 
working…HA HA HA HA HA HA


May the klatta-klatta be with you.

-D



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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Diesel Dan states:

>my plan to overtake the family with >diesel is working…

You'll have to get something a bit newer for SWMBO‎ though. 

http://www.zeroto60times.com/?s=e320

6.7 seconds 0-60 is pretty good. 

Not that much slower than her current ride. 

http://www.zeroto60times.com/?s=sl500

And quite possibly quicker than her former ride. 

http://www.zeroto60times.com/?s=626

‎"I wasn't flooring it"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7n7KxzVjvHY

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mercedes-benz/e-class/2008/mercedes-benz-e320-bluetec-first-test/
‎
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

You should leave the kids in the beater 140s, the e300 seems too nice to get 
torn up.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yup.  Certified dieselmania.  I don’t believe there is a known cure, short of 
> death.
> 
> And no, I’ve got to pass this car along to the oldest boy.  No loss of focus 
> for the finnie. I’ve already been tempted by others and been able to avoid 
> them.  I’m dead set on a finnie to replace the W123 300D and nothing else.
> 
> What’s funny is that I took the youngest for a ride in it and now he says he 
> wants a diesel….my plan to overtake the family with diesel is working…HA HA 
> HA HA HA HA
> 
> May the klatta-klatta be with you.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 14, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep. He is going nuts.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> uh oh!  here we go again!
>>> 
>>> Now Dan will sell this and the SL and claim he wants a Ponton
>>> 
 Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 May 14, 2017 at 1:34 PM
 Not sure I want to surrender this to the boy, it’s actually pretty fun to 
 drive.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -D
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yup.  Certified dieselmania.  I don’t believe there is a known cure, short of 
death.

And no, I’ve got to pass this car along to the oldest boy.  No loss of focus 
for the finnie. I’ve already been tempted by others and been able to avoid 
them.  I’m dead set on a finnie to replace the W123 300D and nothing else.

What’s funny is that I took the youngest for a ride in it and now he says he 
wants a diesel….my plan to overtake the family with diesel is working…HA HA HA 
HA HA HA

May the klatta-klatta be with you.

-D




> On May 14, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep. He is going nuts.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 14, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> uh oh!  here we go again!
>> 
>> Now Dan will sell this and the SL and claim he wants a Ponton
>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> May 14, 2017 at 1:34 PM
>>> Not sure I want to surrender this to the boy, it’s actually pretty fun to 
>>> drive.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep. He is going nuts.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> uh oh!  here we go again!
> 
> Now Dan will sell this and the SL and claim he wants a Ponton
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> May 14, 2017 at 1:34 PM
>> Not sure I want to surrender this to the boy, it’s actually pretty fun to 
>> drive.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

We've seen this movie before...
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On May 14, 2017 2:50:55 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Great minds think alike!  I posted mine just before yours showed up!
>
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> May 14, 2017 at 1:48 PM
>> Uh oh, next it'll be listed on BaT and sell for about $5k...
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Great minds think alike!  I posted mine just before yours showed up!


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
May 14, 2017 at 1:48 PM
Uh oh, next it'll be listed on BaT and sell for about $5k...



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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

uh oh!  here we go again!

Now Dan will sell this and the SL and claim he wants a Ponton


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 14, 2017 at 1:34 PM
 Not sure I want to surrender this to the boy, it’s actually pretty 
fun to drive.


Thanks!

-D


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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Uh oh, next it'll be listed on BaT and sell for about $5k...
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On May 14, 2017 2:34:09 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:
>I figured such.  Will do.  Drives like buttah.  Not sure I want to
>surrender this to the boy, it’s actually pretty fun to drive.
>

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I figured such.  Will do.  Drives like buttah.  Not sure I want to surrender 
this to the boy, it’s actually pretty fun to drive.

Thanks!

-D

> On May 14, 2017, at 2:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If the shifts are late you need to loosen the cable a bit that hooks on top 
> of the engine 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

If the shifts are late you need to loosen the cable a bit that hooks on top of 
the engine 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I couldn’t get to the connection on the IP, so I split the line going to is 
> and “teed” to run to the transmission vacuum modulator.
> 
> Shifts are a little late, but very smooth.  Nice!
> 
> I’ll just have to plan on some time to sort out the vacuum system when I have 
> the manifold off.
> 
> Hmm….what to do next….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 14, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I got a vacuum line diagram and did some digging.  Looks like I can tell 
>> where they screwed up reconnection or re-routing things.  Unfortunately it’s 
>> a connection on the injection pump which is buried under the intake 
>> manifold.  I don’t think I can reach it from above, so I’ll go at it from 
>> underneath.
>> 
>> And of course of all the vacuum fittings I have in stock, I don’t have a “Y” 
>> fitting, so it’s time for a trip to Advance Auto…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I couldn’t get to the connection on the IP, so I split the line going to is and 
“teed” to run to the transmission vacuum modulator.

Shifts are a little late, but very smooth.  Nice!

I’ll just have to plan on some time to sort out the vacuum system when I have 
the manifold off.

Hmm….what to do next….

-D


> On May 14, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I got a vacuum line diagram and did some digging.  Looks like I can tell 
> where they screwed up reconnection or re-routing things.  Unfortunately it’s 
> a connection on the injection pump which is buried under the intake manifold. 
>  I don’t think I can reach it from above, so I’ll go at it from underneath.
> 
> And of course of all the vacuum fittings I have in stock, I don’t have a “Y” 
> fitting, so it’s time for a trip to Advance Auto…
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I got a vacuum line diagram and did some digging.  Looks like I can tell where 
they screwed up reconnection or re-routing things.  Unfortunately it’s a 
connection on the injection pump which is buried under the intake manifold.  I 
don’t think I can reach it from above, so I’ll go at it from underneath.

And of course of all the vacuum fittings I have in stock, I don’t have a “Y” 
fitting, so it’s time for a trip to Advance Auto…

-D


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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

ABS sensor.
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On May 14, 2017 8:57:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Thanks for that, Max.
>
>I don’t think I have ASD - the build card doesn’t show it.  So what is
>the sensor or speed pickup that’s mounted on the differential in these
>cars? That’s what made me ask.
>
>-D
>
>
>> On May 14, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> A note on that additive.  I used it based on a post I found on a
>forum post
>> somewhere, but later someone challenged me on it.  I really dug into
>the
>> official MB literature and could find nothing that said my ASD
>differential
>> needed any additive, the "normal" gear lube was specified.  The
>additive I
>> found is specified for limited slip differentials from the 70's, I
>think in
>> the SL or SLC cars?
>> 
>> All that to say that you may find that you don't need it.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Meade Dillon 
>wrote:
>> 
>>> I found it!  A 000 989 82 03, Oil Additive, in a 30ml bottle.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s what I was thinking, just wanted to be sure.  No triangle in the speedo 
that I recall.  It’s not on the build sheet, either.

Thanks!

-D


> On May 14, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you had asd you would have the triangle in the speedo and the asd light. 
> The sensor on the diff is for the abs.
> 
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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 14, 2017 at 8:57 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> I don’t think I have ASD - the build card doesn’t show it.  So what is the 
> sensor or speed pickup that’s mounted on the differential in these cars? 
> That’s what made me ask.

IIRC, my W201s have three ABS sensors, front wheels and differential input 
shaft. 

Mitch.

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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

If you had asd you would have the triangle in the speedo and the asd light. The 
sensor on the diff is for the abs.

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> On May 14, 2017, at 7:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that, Max.
> 
> I don’t think I have ASD - the build card doesn’t show it.  So what is the 
> sensor or speed pickup that’s mounted on the differential in these cars? 
> That’s what made me ask.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 14, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A note on that additive.  I used it based on a post I found on a forum post
>> somewhere, but later someone challenged me on it.  I really dug into the
>> official MB literature and could find nothing that said my ASD differential
>> needed any additive, the "normal" gear lube was specified.  The additive I
>> found is specified for limited slip differentials from the 70's, I think in
>> the SL or SLC cars?
>> 
>> All that to say that you may find that you don't need it.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found it!  A 000 989 82 03, Oil Additive, in a 30ml bottle.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

"Oil additive, transmission oil” - $27.00 list.


-D


> On May 14, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I found it!  A 000 989 82 03, Oil Additive, in a 30ml bottle.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:
> 
>> Dan,
>> 
>> Yes, I think that's what I have in mine.
>> 
>> However, when I had to replace my ASD diff a few years ago, the shop
>> ignored my request to use the M1 and put in whatever they normally use.
>> During the drive home I found that it would catch on sharp turns.
>> 
>> I immediately drained out their stuff, and re-filled with the M1 and also
>> the MB limited slip diff additive.  I don't know which did the trick, but
>> all was fine after that.
>> 
>> Now if I can find the part number for that additive...
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just
>>> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 14, 2017 at 8:46 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> A note on that additive.  I used it based on a post I found on a forum post
> somewhere, but later someone challenged me on it.  I really dug into the
> official MB literature and could find nothing that said my ASD differential
> needed any additive, the "normal" gear lube was specified.  The additive I
> found is specified for limited slip differentials from the 70's, I think in
> the SL or SLC cars?


I would assume that friction modifier would be a good thing for any regular 
LSD, like the old fashioned unit in the 1986-1987 2.3-16v.
IIRC, the guys at a Ford diesel pickup forum I used to frequent liked the Mopar 
stuff. 

Mitch.

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks for that, Max.

I don’t think I have ASD - the build card doesn’t show it.  So what is the 
sensor or speed pickup that’s mounted on the differential in these cars? That’s 
what made me ask.

-D


> On May 14, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A note on that additive.  I used it based on a post I found on a forum post
> somewhere, but later someone challenged me on it.  I really dug into the
> official MB literature and could find nothing that said my ASD differential
> needed any additive, the "normal" gear lube was specified.  The additive I
> found is specified for limited slip differentials from the 70's, I think in
> the SL or SLC cars?
> 
> All that to say that you may find that you don't need it.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:
> 
>> I found it!  A 000 989 82 03, Oil Additive, in a 30ml bottle.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 


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[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

A note on that additive.  I used it based on a post I found on a forum post
somewhere, but later someone challenged me on it.  I really dug into the
official MB literature and could find nothing that said my ASD differential
needed any additive, the "normal" gear lube was specified.  The additive I
found is specified for limited slip differentials from the 70's, I think in
the SL or SLC cars?

All that to say that you may find that you don't need it.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:

> I found it!  A 000 989 82 03, Oil Additive, in a 30ml bottle.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Meade Dillon 
> wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Yes, I think that's what I have in mine.
>>
>> However, when I had to replace my ASD diff a few years ago, the shop
>> ignored my request to use the M1 and put in whatever they normally use.
>> During the drive home I found that it would catch on sharp turns.
>>
>> I immediately drained out their stuff, and re-filled with the M1 and also
>> the MB limited slip diff additive.  I don't know which did the trick, but
>> all was fine after that.
>>
>> Now if I can find the part number for that additive...
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just
>>> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Does your car have asd?

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> On May 13, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just 
> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I found it!  A 000 989 82 03, Oil Additive, in a 30ml bottle.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:

> Dan,
>
> Yes, I think that's what I have in mine.
>
> However, when I had to replace my ASD diff a few years ago, the shop
> ignored my request to use the M1 and put in whatever they normally use.
> During the drive home I found that it would catch on sharp turns.
>
> I immediately drained out their stuff, and re-filled with the M1 and also
> the MB limited slip diff additive.  I don't know which did the trick, but
> all was fine after that.
>
> Now if I can find the part number for that additive...
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just
>> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Dan,

Yes, I think that's what I have in mine.

However, when I had to replace my ASD diff a few years ago, the shop
ignored my request to use the M1 and put in whatever they normally use.
During the drive home I found that it would catch on sharp turns.

I immediately drained out their stuff, and re-filled with the M1 and also
the MB limited slip diff additive.  I don't know which did the trick, but
all was fine after that.

Now if I can find the part number for that additive...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just
> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
>
> -D
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[clay via Mercedes]

I used that in the E300D and had no issues.  The car was made unhappy by a dame 
in a SUV, but revived by a Ruskie who did a quick body panel fix and tried to 
flip the car for thrice what I sold if for


clay

> On May 13, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just 
> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just wondered 
since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 13 May 2017 18:12:13 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> That’s where I looked first.  I was just pointing out that they were
> close by if they did have them…

It sounded like you had your keys and hat in hand and were walking out
the door.


Craig


> > On May 13, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 13 May 2017 18:03:29 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m
> >> going to look….
> > 
> > You might try looking on their website first ...

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

No but they are all over eBay. 

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> On May 13, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m going to 
> look….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I would get the Bushing pliers for sure
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did the final round for the day.
>>> 
>>> Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.
>>> 
>>> Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the 
>>> pump.  Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the 
>>> coolant flow, but at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for 
>>> the reservoir rather than keep the original which would have had the holes 
>>> for the heater pipes in it.
>>> 
>>> Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice 
>>> for this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for 
>>> the job.
>>> 
>>> Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back 
>>> of the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp 
>>> fuse on what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a 
>>> blade fuse as part of the relay?)
>>> 
>>> Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected. 
>>>  I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is 
>>> probably leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it 
>>> probably is.  Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean 
>>> GONE.  I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy one of the special 
>>> pliers?  Not looking forward to that job, as the tunnel is really, really 
>>> tight on this car.
>>> 
>>> All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m 
>>> bummed that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long 
>>> before I got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as 
>>> I’m at the point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the 
>>> transmission an that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta 
>>> start getting the 300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week 
>>> from Monday to drive it back to Grand Rapids….
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Got under the car.
 
 Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
 “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take 
 the car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the 
 leak and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he 
 has to install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a 
 little more to get the leak sealed up.
 
 Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs 
 new brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound 
 deadening panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below 
 decks actually looks pretty good.
 
 Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it 
 just came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
 
 Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running 
 out of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
 cleaner, and call it a day.
 
 -D
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I did check the EGR and the valve flange is blocked off with a very thin metal 
gasket, sort of the “coke can” approach.  Thank goodness, this gives me some 
hope.

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> I just try to understand the motivation.  Something like the EGR gains 
> nothing, not to mention you’re bypassing filtered air into the engine.  Just 
> like the lack of a cabin air filter.
> 
> Grrr.
> 
> It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It's to annoying to get a car in that has had all sorts of short cuts done 
>> that would have been simple to fix the right way. I have run into that with 
>> the latest e300 I picked up. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s where I looked first.  I was just pointing out that they were close by 
if they did have them…

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 13 May 2017 18:03:29 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m
>> going to look….
> 
> You might try looking on their website first ...
> 
> 
> Craig
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nope.

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m going to 
> look….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I would get the Bushing pliers for sure
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did the final round for the day.
>>> 
>>> Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.
>>> 
>>> Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the 
>>> pump.  Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the 
>>> coolant flow, but at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for 
>>> the reservoir rather than keep the original which would have had the holes 
>>> for the heater pipes in it.
>>> 
>>> Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice 
>>> for this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for 
>>> the job.
>>> 
>>> Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back 
>>> of the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp 
>>> fuse on what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a 
>>> blade fuse as part of the relay?)
>>> 
>>> Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected. 
>>>  I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is 
>>> probably leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it 
>>> probably is.  Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean 
>>> GONE.  I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy one of the special 
>>> pliers?  Not looking forward to that job, as the tunnel is really, really 
>>> tight on this car.
>>> 
>>> All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m 
>>> bummed that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long 
>>> before I got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as 
>>> I’m at the point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the 
>>> transmission an that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta 
>>> start getting the 300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week 
>>> from Monday to drive it back to Grand Rapids….
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Got under the car.
 
 Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
 “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take 
 the car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the 
 leak and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he 
 has to install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a 
 little more to get the leak sealed up.
 
 Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs 
 new brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound 
 deadening panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below 
 decks actually looks pretty good.
 
 Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it 
 just came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
 
 Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running 
 out of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
 cleaner, and call it a day.
 
 -D
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 13 May 2017 18:03:29 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m
> going to look….

You might try looking on their website first ...


Craig

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m going to 
look….

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would get the Bushing pliers for sure
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Did the final round for the day.
>> 
>> Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.
>> 
>> Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the 
>> pump.  Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the coolant 
>> flow, but at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for the 
>> reservoir rather than keep the original which would have had the holes for 
>> the heater pipes in it.
>> 
>> Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice 
>> for this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for the 
>> job.
>> 
>> Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back 
>> of the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp fuse 
>> on what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a blade 
>> fuse as part of the relay?)
>> 
>> Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected.  
>> I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is 
>> probably leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it 
>> probably is.  Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean 
>> GONE.  I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy one of the special 
>> pliers?  Not looking forward to that job, as the tunnel is really, really 
>> tight on this car.
>> 
>> All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m bummed 
>> that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long before 
>> I got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as I’m at 
>> the point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the 
>> transmission an that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta 
>> start getting the 300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week from 
>> Monday to drive it back to Grand Rapids….
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Got under the car.
>>> 
>>> Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
>>> “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take 
>>> the car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the 
>>> leak and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he 
>>> has to install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a 
>>> little more to get the leak sealed up.
>>> 
>>> Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs 
>>> new brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound 
>>> deadening panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below 
>>> decks actually looks pretty good.
>>> 
>>> Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it just 
>>> came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
>>> 
>>> Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running 
>>> out of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
>>> cleaner, and call it a day.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I would get the Bushing pliers for sure

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did the final round for the day.
> 
> Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.
> 
> Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the pump. 
>  Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the coolant flow, 
> but at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for the reservoir 
> rather than keep the original which would have had the holes for the heater 
> pipes in it.
> 
> Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice for 
> this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for the job.
> 
> Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back 
> of the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp fuse 
> on what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a blade fuse 
> as part of the relay?)
> 
> Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected.  
> I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is 
> probably leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it 
> probably is.  Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean GONE. 
>  I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy one of the special pliers?  Not 
> looking forward to that job, as the tunnel is really, really tight on this 
> car.
> 
> All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m bummed 
> that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long before I 
> got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as I’m at the 
> point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the transmission 
> an that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta start getting 
> the 300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week from Monday to 
> drive it back to Grand Rapids….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Got under the car.
>> 
>> Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
>> “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take 
>> the car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the 
>> leak and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he 
>> has to install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a 
>> little more to get the leak sealed up.
>> 
>> Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs 
>> new brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound 
>> deadening panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below 
>> decks actually looks pretty good.
>> 
>> Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it just 
>> came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
>> 
>> Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running 
>> out of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
>> cleaner, and call it a day.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Did the final round for the day.

Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.

Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the pump.  
Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the coolant flow, but 
at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for the reservoir rather 
than keep the original which would have had the holes for the heater pipes in 
it.

Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice for 
this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for the job.

Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back of 
the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp fuse on 
what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a blade fuse as 
part of the relay?)

Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected.  
I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is probably 
leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it probably is.  
Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean GONE.  I wonder if I 
should bite the bullet and buy one of the special pliers?  Not looking forward 
to that job, as the tunnel is really, really tight on this car.

All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m bummed 
that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long before I 
got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as I’m at the 
point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the transmission an 
that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta start getting the 
300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week from Monday to drive it 
back to Grand Rapids….

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Got under the car.
> 
> Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
> “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take the 
> car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the leak 
> and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he has to 
> install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a little 
> more to get the leak sealed up.
> 
> Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs new 
> brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound deadening 
> panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below decks 
> actually looks pretty good.
> 
> Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it just 
> came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
> 
> Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running out 
> of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
> cleaner, and call it a day.
> 
> -D
> 
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got under the car.

Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to “delete” 
the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take the car to my 
local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the leak and hope he 
doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he has to install a new 
catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a little more to get the 
leak sealed up.

Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs new 
brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound deadening 
panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below decks actually 
looks pretty good.

Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it just 
came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.

Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running out 
of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet cleaner, 
and call it a day.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

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On Sat, 13 May 2017 16:09:04 +
Rick Knoble via Mercedes  wrote:

> Dan says:
> 
> >It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
> 
> So do Toyota's. 
> But as Dimitri says
> 
> "Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."
> 
> Except Gerry. 
> We can make an exception for Gerry.
> He has achieved maturity milestones
> that I will be grateful to achieve one day.   
> 
> Rick

Thanks.
Assuming you mean "age-wise", I hope you do too.
Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Fans are toast.  Both have internal electrical issues, shorted windings I 
suspect based on the bench tests I did on them both.

So I’ll be running aux fanless for now.

In the meantime, anyone know where the relay would be for the fans?  I want to 
go ahead and check the circuit out so when I get replacements I can drop them 
in and know they’ll be ready to run.

Dan

 
> On May 13, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Ramps.
> 
> Tearing down the aux fans right now.  Just got them out of the car (oy!) and 
> letting them soak with some Kroil for a few minutes.
> 
> Both were pretty much non-functional, as they could barely be turned by hand. 
>  I have had some success recovering these in the past, so I’m going to give 
> it a shot with these.
> 
> I have never seen a condenser so crudded up before in my life.  There must 
> have been five pounds of crap, like dead bugs, leaves, etc., etc. in the 
> thing.  There’s a pile of crap under the front of the car where stuff fell 
> out while I was taking things apart.
> 
> Fun.  Time to see if I can recover these fans.
> 
> -D
> 
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Dan, I've got a set if used fans if you can't.
-- 
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'95 E300

On May 13, 2017 1:22:11 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Ramps.
>
>Tearing down the aux fans right now.  Just got them out of the car
>(oy!) and letting them soak with some Kroil for a few minutes.
>
>Both were pretty much non-functional, as they could barely be turned by
>hand.  I have had some success recovering these in the past, so I’m
>going to give it a shot with these.
>
>I have never seen a condenser so crudded up before in my life.  There
>must have been five pounds of crap, like dead bugs, leaves, etc., etc.
>in the thing.  There’s a pile of crap under the front of the car where
>stuff fell out while I was taking things apart.
>
>Fun.  Time to see if I can recover these fans.
>
>-D
>
>
>
>
>
>> On May 13, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Dan writes "...Get the car in the air"  Do you have a lift at home?
>> 
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dan says:
>>> 
 It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
>>> 
>>> So do Toyota's.
>>> But as Dimitri says
>>> 
>>> "Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."
>>> 
>>> Except Gerry.
>>> We can make an exception for Gerry.
>>> He has achieved maturity milestones
>>> that I will be grateful to achieve one day.
>>> 
>>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Ramps.

Tearing down the aux fans right now.  Just got them out of the car (oy!) and 
letting them soak with some Kroil for a few minutes.

Both were pretty much non-functional, as they could barely be turned by hand.  
I have had some success recovering these in the past, so I’m going to give it a 
shot with these.

I have never seen a condenser so crudded up before in my life.  There must have 
been five pounds of crap, like dead bugs, leaves, etc., etc. in the thing.  
There’s a pile of crap under the front of the car where stuff fell out while I 
was taking things apart.

Fun.  Time to see if I can recover these fans.

-D





> On May 13, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan writes "...Get the car in the air"  Do you have a lift at home?
> 
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dan says:
>> 
>>> It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
>> 
>> So do Toyota's.
>> But as Dimitri says
>> 
>> "Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."
>> 
>> Except Gerry.
>> We can make an exception for Gerry.
>> He has achieved maturity milestones
>> that I will be grateful to achieve one day.
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Dan writes "...Get the car in the air"  Do you have a lift at home?

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan says:
>
> >It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
>
> So do Toyota's.
> But as Dimitri says
>
> "Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."
>
> Except Gerry.
> We can make an exception for Gerry.
> He has achieved maturity milestones
> that I will be grateful to achieve one day.
>
> Rick
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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dan says:

>It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.

So do Toyota's. 
But as Dimitri says

"Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."

Except Gerry. 
We can make an exception for Gerry.
He has achieved maturity milestones
that I will be grateful to achieve one day.   

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

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Not hard. It's been a while but I am thing the fronts have real regulators and 
not the flimsy cable ones. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How tough is it to replace window regulators in these cars? The driver’s 
> widow is just about to wear the teeth off the segmented gear thing.  When it 
> gets to the top of the window travel if you keep the switch down you can hear 
> it “pop”.
> 
> -D
> 
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

How tough is it to replace window regulators in these cars? The driver’s widow 
is just about to wear the teeth off the segmented gear thing.  When it gets to 
the top of the window travel if you keep the switch down you can hear it “pop”.

-D


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I just try to understand the motivation.  Something like the EGR gains nothing, 
not to mention you’re bypassing filtered air into the engine.  Just like the 
lack of a cabin air filter.

Grrr.

It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's to annoying to get a car in that has had all sorts of short cuts done 
> that would have been simple to fix the right way. I have run into that with 
> the latest e300 I picked up. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I noticed that yesterday.  However, what I can see appears to be stock and 
>> unaltered, although as I go through the car in more detail I definitely am 
>> finding things that would indicated someone in the past liked to second 
>> guess the engineers and cut corners.
>> 
>> For instance:
>> 
>> Figured I would replace the cabin air filters, since this car has them - or 
>> does it?
>> 
>> I pulled all of the plenum pieces out to get at the filters, and guess what? 
>>  They’re not there.  As in someone removed them and never put replacements 
>> in.  Yup, a gaping hole from the plenum straight into the 
>> airbox/evaporator/heater core.  Lovely.
>> 
>> So with the plenum pulled apart and all of the seals removed, I vacuumed the 
>> detritus from AZ out, mostly pine needles as one would expect and then 
>> installed fresh cabin air filters.
>> 
>> While I was in the neighborhood I pulled the cover off of the monowiper and 
>> greased everything in sight with Mobil 1 grease.  That area looked pretty 
>> good.
>> 
>> In anticipation of future troubleshooting of the AC system, specifically the 
>> auxiliary fans, I reconnected the disconnected wires from the high 
>> temperature refrigerant switch on the receiver/dryer.  I’ll be looking into 
>> aux fan operation later today, I suspect.
>> 
>> I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air 
>> intake valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone appears 
>> to have cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold and then 
>> smashed the stub of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection at the intake 
>> tube appears to have been left open to outside air.  There is no cap or 
>> plug. 
>> 
>> At this point I’m going to do some interior cleaning and get that sorted 
>> before I get under the car and poke around.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are a ton of vacuum lines under the manifold that you can't really 
>>> see unless the manifold is off, or maybe from under the car.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 13, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
 finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.
 
 The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a 
 bad thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.
 
 Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the 
 interior and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For 
 the most part it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise 
 this should be a fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under 
 the rear seat cushion yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the 
 ash tray.  Nice!
 
 After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
 underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black. 
  I need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s 
 the source of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside 
 look OK and to be in the proper positions.
 
 In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
 breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s 
 making me crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to 
 pop the aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I 
 tear into the antenna.
 
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Neither from what I can see.  I’ll be sealing the opening in the intake before 
it gets started again. Sigh.

Why are people such idiots?

-D

 
> On May 13, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Ouch, air filter bypassed when (if) that EGR valve opened.  Hopefully a 
> block-off plate is installed, or at least the vacuum tube sealed to prevent 
> it from opening.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On May 13, 2017 11:21:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air
>> intake valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone
>> appears to have cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold
>> and then smashed the stub of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection
>> at the intake tube appears to have been left open to outside air. 
>> There is no cap or plug. 
>> 
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It's to annoying to get a car in that has had all sorts of short cuts done that 
would have been simple to fix the right way. I have run into that with the 
latest e300 I picked up. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I noticed that yesterday.  However, what I can see appears to be stock and 
> unaltered, although as I go through the car in more detail I definitely am 
> finding things that would indicated someone in the past liked to second guess 
> the engineers and cut corners.
> 
> For instance:
> 
> Figured I would replace the cabin air filters, since this car has them - or 
> does it?
> 
> I pulled all of the plenum pieces out to get at the filters, and guess what?  
> They’re not there.  As in someone removed them and never put replacements in. 
>  Yup, a gaping hole from the plenum straight into the 
> airbox/evaporator/heater core.  Lovely.
> 
> So with the plenum pulled apart and all of the seals removed, I vacuumed the 
> detritus from AZ out, mostly pine needles as one would expect and then 
> installed fresh cabin air filters.
> 
> While I was in the neighborhood I pulled the cover off of the monowiper and 
> greased everything in sight with Mobil 1 grease.  That area looked pretty 
> good.
> 
> In anticipation of future troubleshooting of the AC system, specifically the 
> auxiliary fans, I reconnected the disconnected wires from the high 
> temperature refrigerant switch on the receiver/dryer.  I’ll be looking into 
> aux fan operation later today, I suspect.
> 
> I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air 
> intake valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone appears 
> to have cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold and then 
> smashed the stub of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection at the intake 
> tube appears to have been left open to outside air.  There is no cap or plug. 
> 
> 
> At this point I’m going to do some interior cleaning and get that sorted 
> before I get under the car and poke around.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There are a ton of vacuum lines under the manifold that you can't really see 
>> unless the manifold is off, or maybe from under the car.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
>>> finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.
>>> 
>>> The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a bad 
>>> thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.
>>> 
>>> Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the 
>>> interior and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For 
>>> the most part it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise 
>>> this should be a fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under the 
>>> rear seat cushion yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the ash 
>>> tray.  Nice!
>>> 
>>> After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
>>> underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black.  
>>> I need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s the 
>>> source of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside look 
>>> OK and to be in the proper positions.
>>> 
>>> In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
>>> breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s making 
>>> me crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to pop the 
>>> aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I tear into 
>>> the antenna.
>>> 
>>> -D
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ouch, air filter bypassed when (if) that EGR valve opened.  Hopefully a 
block-off plate is installed, or at least the vacuum tube sealed to prevent it 
from opening.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 13, 2017 11:21:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air
>intake valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone
>appears to have cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold
>and then smashed the stub of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection
>at the intake tube appears to have been left open to outside air. 
>There is no cap or plug. 
>

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I noticed that yesterday.  However, what I can see appears to be stock and 
unaltered, although as I go through the car in more detail I definitely am 
finding things that would indicated someone in the past liked to second guess 
the engineers and cut corners.

For instance:

Figured I would replace the cabin air filters, since this car has them - or 
does it?

I pulled all of the plenum pieces out to get at the filters, and guess what?  
They’re not there.  As in someone removed them and never put replacements in.  
Yup, a gaping hole from the plenum straight into the airbox/evaporator/heater 
core.  Lovely.

So with the plenum pulled apart and all of the seals removed, I vacuumed the 
detritus from AZ out, mostly pine needles as one would expect and then 
installed fresh cabin air filters.

While I was in the neighborhood I pulled the cover off of the monowiper and 
greased everything in sight with Mobil 1 grease.  That area looked pretty good.

In anticipation of future troubleshooting of the AC system, specifically the 
auxiliary fans, I reconnected the disconnected wires from the high temperature 
refrigerant switch on the receiver/dryer.  I’ll be looking into aux fan 
operation later today, I suspect.

I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air intake 
valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone appears to have 
cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold and then smashed the stub 
of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection at the intake tube appears to have 
been left open to outside air.  There is no cap or plug. 

At this point I’m going to do some interior cleaning and get that sorted before 
I get under the car and poke around.

-D



> On May 13, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There are a ton of vacuum lines under the manifold that you can't really see 
> unless the manifold is off, or maybe from under the car.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
>> finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.
>> 
>> The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a bad 
>> thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.
>> 
>> Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the interior 
>> and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For the most 
>> part it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise this 
>> should be a fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under the rear 
>> seat cushion yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the ash tray.  
>> Nice!
>> 
>> After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
>> underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black.  
>> I need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s the 
>> source of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside look OK 
>> and to be in the proper positions.
>> 
>> In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
>> breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s making 
>> me crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to pop the 
>> aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I tear into 
>> the antenna.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

There are a ton of vacuum lines under the manifold that you can't really see 
unless the manifold is off, or maybe from under the car.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
> finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.
> 
> The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a bad 
> thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.
> 
> Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the interior 
> and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For the most 
> part it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise this should 
> be a fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under the rear seat 
> cushion yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the ash tray.  Nice!
> 
> After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
> underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black.  I 
> need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s the 
> source of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside look OK 
> and to be in the proper positions.
> 
> In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
> breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s making 
> me crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to pop the 
> aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I tear into 
> the antenna.
> 
> -D
> 
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