Re: Any way to add a header with send-hook?
* Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-10 09:27]: I'd like to add an extra (custom, for my use) message header to messages sent to a specific address. Send-hook explicitly doesn't do this so is there any easy way of doing this or will I have to write a little script to actually edit the file and execute that via a send-hook? send-hook . unmy_hdr X-Foo send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' my_hdr X-Foo: blah blah blah I'm using similar constructs all over the place. (darren) -- It has long been an axiom of mine that the little things are infinitely the most important. -- Arthur Conan Coyle
Re: short time in index view?
* Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-09 13:19]:
However, it's giving me very long date and time fields. How can I
just get something like:
10/09/02 10:15
or 10/09 1:15. Something short and concise.
From the manual, section 6.3.84:
%d date and time of the message in the format specified by
``date_format'' converted to sender's time zone
%D date and time of the message in the format specified by
``date_format'' converted to the local time zone
Set date_format to something short.
Another option are the %{}, %(), %, and %[] formats:
%{fmt}
the date and time of the message is converted to sender's time
zone, and ``fmt'' is expanded by the library function
``strftime''; a leading bang disables locales
%[fmt]
the date and time of the message is converted to the local time
zone, and ``fmt'' is expanded by the library function
``strftime''; a leading bang disables locales
%(fmt)
the local date and time when the message was received. ``fmt''
is expanded by the library function ``strftime''; a leading bang
disables locales
%fmt
the current local time. ``fmt'' is expanded by the library
function ``strftime''; a leading bang disables locales.
(darren)
--
One cannot make an omelette without breaking eggs -- but it is amazing
how many eggs one can break without making a decent omelette.
-- Professor Charles P. Issawi
Re: short time in index view?
* Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-09 14:35]: How can I get: 118 Oct 09 11:35 To mutt-users, etc, etc, ^ In the above example? (Or even 118 10/09 11:35 To mutt-users, etc, etc) Change the part in %[ ] to be something like %[%b %d %H:%M] or %[%m/%d %H:%M]. (darren) -- How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter? -- Woody Allen
Re: Creating Aliases from sent messages?
* John P Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-06 19:31]: This worked just as promised! Cleaning out the Message-IDs was no big deal. Thanks a million Darren! Forgive my delay in responding, but I just found time to do this today. Nice. I banged it out pretty quickly. I piped the output to a file. The only thing I had to then do was to prepend the word 'alias' and a dummy alias (I used numbers) before each address, so as to make the list work with mutt. (I did this via a spreadsheet) I am a COMPLETE Perl novice, so please forgive this question, but how could the script be modified to automate this prepending? Change the last line (the print line) to read: print map alias $_\n, sort keys %addrs; Which will give you a list like: alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] (darren) -- Pohl's law: Nothing is so good that somebody, somewhere, will not hate it.
Re: feature request - save_domain
* Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-01 10:18]:
Some suggested hacks for this but IMHO, this is sufficicently
useful (especially for those who deal with many companies /
organisations) to be native functionality.
This seems like a good learning excersize, so I was looking into this,
trying to implement save_domain and force_domain that behave identically
to save_name and force_name. However, I cannot figure out how to access
the RHS of the address from within mutt_save_fcc (in hook.c):
/* Within mutt_save_fcc, lines 401 - 427 */
void mutt_select_fcc (char *path, size_t pathlen, HEADER *hdr)
{
ADDRESS *adr;
char buf[_POSIX_PATH_MAX];
ENVELOPE *env = hdr-env;
if (mutt_addr_hook (path, pathlen, M_FCCHOOK, NULL, hdr) != 0)
{
if ((option (OPTSAVENAME) || option (OPTFORCENAME))
(env-to || env-cc || env-bcc))
{
adr = env-to ? env-to : (env-cc ? env-cc : env-bcc);
mutt_safe_path (buf, sizeof (buf), adr);
snprintf (path, pathlen, %s/%s, NONULL (Maildir), buf);
if (!option (OPTFORCENAME) mx_access (path, W_OK) != 0)
strfcpy (path, NONULL (Outbox), pathlen);
}
else if ((option (OPTSAVEDOMAIN) || option (OPTFORCEDOMAIN))
(env-to || env-cc || env-bcc))
{
/* XXX how to access domain portion of address? */
}
else
strfcpy (path, NONULL (Outbox), pathlen);
}
mutt_pretty_mailbox (path);
}
I've already defined OPTSAVEDOMAIN and OPTFORCEDOMAIN in init.h and
mutt.h; if I duplicate the code for OPTSAVENAME and OPTFORCENAME in the
XXX'ed area, I get the correct results. I'm a little stumped, and I'm
sure I'm missing something simple. Any pointers?
(darren)
--
Morality works best when chosen, not when mandated.
-- Larry Wall
Re: Creating Aliases from sent messages?
* Michael Tatge [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-01 14:17]:
Why don't you run a little shell or perl script against that folder?
Hmm...
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use File::Slurp;
use Email::Find;
my (%addrs, $data, $mbox, $finder);
$data = read_file(mutt-users); # read_file comes from File::Slurp
$mbox = $ENV{HOME}/Mail/lists/mutt-users;
$finder = Email::Find-new(sub { $addrs{ $_[0]-format }++ });
$finder-find(\$data);
print join \n, sort keys %addrs;
This works, assuming you have File::Slurp and Email::Find installed.
The problem with this, though, is that it picks up Message-ID's.
A more robust solution (involving Perl) would be to create a Mail::Box
instance, that knows about the messages it contains, and then grab email
addresses from the appropriate header fields. This would also work for
things other than mbox format:
use Email::Find;
use Mail::Box::Manager;
my %addrs;
my $mgr = Mail::Box::Manager-new;
my $mbox = $mgr-open(folder = Mail/INBOX/);
my $finder = Email::Find-new(sub { $addrs{ $_[0]-format }++ });
for my $message ($mbox-messages) {
my $cc = $message-cc;
my $from = $message-from;
$finder-find(\$cc);
$finder-find(\$from);
}
print join \n, sort keys %addrs;
(Note that I've tested the first, but not the second.)
(darren)
--
It is impossible to travel faster than the speed of light, and
certainly not desirable, as one's hat keeps blowing off.
-- Woody Allen
Re: Two minor configuration questions
* Kurt Lieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-30 09:22]: 1. By default, when you delete a message in a mailbox index, mutt moves one message *down* by default. Can I change this to move one message *up*? You can setup a macro: macro pager d delete-messageprevious-entryprevious-entry Basically, delete - up - up. 2. Once a message is deleted, but not actually purged, using the arrow keys to navigate messages will skip over deleted messages. I can jump to a specific deleted message by number, but is there a way to not have the deleted messages ignored when navigating by arrow keys? By default down is bound to next-undeleted; rebind it to next-entry: bind index Down next-entry I personally use 'j' for next-undeleted and 'J' for next-entry, and 'k' for previous-undeleted and 'K' for previous-entry. (darren) -- It is impossible to travel faster than the speed of light, and certainly not desirable, as one's hat keeps blowing off. -- Woody Allen
Re: .procmailrc
* savanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-30 15:51]: A slightly offtopic question - I'm using procmail for my mail filtering, just wondering what people are using to catch all of the mutt-users email. I'm currently using: [-- snip --] An better recipe out there? I've been using: # Mutt users :0: * ^TO_mutt-users lists/mutt-users And haven't seen any messages pass through. (procmail recipes aren't my strength). They aren't anyone's strength. (darren) -- Although I can accept talking scarecrows, lions, and great wizards of emerald cities, I find it hard to believe there is no paperwork involved when your house lands on a witch.
Re: download pgpwrap from where?
* savanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 15:07]: Where do I download pgpewrap from? http://www.google.com/search?q=pgpewrap Get the source from http://cvs.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mutt/pgpewrap.c?cvsroot=Mutt, or just grab a binary from http://mutt.justpickone.org/mutt-build-cocktail/mutt-1.4/pgpewrap (darren) -- The road to Hell is paved with Bibles.
Re: Tagging mail by date
* Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 09:25]: I.e. how do I tag all messages more than (say) 365 days old in the current mailbox? tag-pattern~d 365d (darren) -- Competence, like truth, beauty, and contact lenses, is in the eye of the beholder. -- Dr. Laurence J. Peter
Re: Multiple coloring
* Johan Svedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-19 16:39]: I would like all the mail I mark for deletion to be colored the same way, so my question is this: Is it possible to set some kind of priority for which color mutt should use in case a mail has both of these conditions? Scoring? score ~D +100 score ~f winkle ~p +10 color index fg bg ~n 110 (This is an untested guess, BTW.) (darren) -- Your only obligation in any lifetime is to be true to yourself. Being true to anyone else or anything else is ... impossible. -- Richard Bach
Re: listing what's in a directory
* Deb [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-23 13:39]: In Elm, at the save prompt I could type a directory name or = (for the default Mail directory), hit return instead of a filename, and I would be graced with a file listing inside that dir. For some reason, I haven't been able to configure mutt to do this. Doesn't Tab do that for you? (darren) -- If history teaches us anything, it's that everyone will be part of the problem, but not everyone will be part of the solution. -- Larry Wall
Re: New mail to list.
* Rob Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 22:49]: Alas! darren chamberlain spake thus: * Alex Polite [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 08:22]: How do I start composing a new message to a mailing list? What I usually do now is push L for list-reply the remove the body and appropriate headers. I have this in my config: subscribe mutt-users@ mailboxes =lists/mutt-users folder-hook =lists/mutt-users macro index m \mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]\ subscribe mutt-dev@ subscribe @bugs.guug.de mailboxes =lists/mutt-dev folder-hook =lists/mutt-dev macro index m \mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]\ When I hit m in my mutt folders, it executes the macro, with the appropriate stuff filled in. That's awfully restrictive. What if you were in another mbox and you wanted to mail mutt-users? In that case, an alias (or good old-fashioned typing) Does The Right Thing. Because there is no \n at the end of the macros, the To: line is seeded, not set (I can always ^U the line to start over, for example). In practice, I only send mail to lists from within the mailbox for that list, even when creating a new message and not responding. The macros above reflect my usage patterns, not the other way around. I just use an alias, and send mail normally. Yep. This just makes that a little simpler. My macros work with aliases, of course, so I could have an alias for mutt-users that the macro invokes, which is useful for when a list changes its address (from, hypothetically speaking, guug.de to mutt.org): then only the alias needs updating. (darren) -- Elegance and truth are inversely related. -- Becker's Razor
Re: New mail to list.
* Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 22:25]: Presumably if you use the patch which has RFC 2369 support, there might be a 'list-post' option, which would be nice In fact, mutt could probably add a 'list-post' option (which would post a new message to list(s) existing in the current message. Will, Are you referring to the patch specified in [EMAIL PROTECTED], posted to mutt-dev on 9/15? I'm interested in that functionality, but haven't tried it out yet. (darren) -- The first human who hurled an insult instead of a stone was the founder of civilization. -- Sigmund Freud
Re: vi startup (not vim?)
* Dave Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-18 08:23]: Is there a way to tweak the way mutt lauches vi to get these features to run in a 'vimmish' way? To what is $editor set? If it is set to 'vi', then you might be getting either vim in compatible mode, or not vim (i.e., the default vi on your box). I am running debian woody - vim version 5.6.70. If I just type vi from a command prompt on the same box, I get full vim; .vimrc mappings and tab-expansion works fine. Debian's default vi is elvis (or at least it was as of 2.2); type vi or which vi will tell you what is executed when you type vi. Chances are that it is not what mutt is executing, due to search path differences, or shell functions/aliases, or something similar. Under bash, type vi will tell you if you are executing an alias or function, while which vi does not; type might be supported by other shells as well, but I'm unsure. It is only when mutt starts the editor that I seem to be in a 'vi compatability' mode. vim has a :version command, which other vi clones don't seem to; vim with cp set will still respond to :version, while elvis will not (well, it will, but with an error ;). (darren) -- I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. -- Vance Petree
Re: vi startup (not vim?)
* Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-18 09:04]: On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, darren chamberlain wrote: vim has a :version command, which other vi clones don't seem to; vim :ve is standard. (:version is also recognized by all of the vi's that I recall - including elvis). OK, I stand corrected. However, :ve will still tell him whether he's using vim or not, eh? with cp set will still respond to :version, while elvis will not (well, it will, but with an error ;). one of the annoying things about vim-users is that most of them don't know much about vi, and tend to ascribe lots of things to vim that are standard in vi. Hey, Sven, calm down, will ya? ;) Actually, though, my experience has been the opposite: people who are vim users tend to think that vim features are standard vi features, and get upset when, say, ga doesn't do what they expect. A lot of the vi evangelists I know are actually vim evalgelists, and it annoys me, much as it (apparently) annoys you. (don't be like most vim-users) Actually, I'm not. In fact, on many of the boxen I use regularly, I'm not a vim user at all. I was unaware that other vi's supported :ve; I thought I remembered elvis, at least, not supporting it. (darren) -- Doubt isn't the opposite of faith; it is an element of faith. -- Paul Tillich
Re: New mail to list.
* Alex Polite [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 08:22]: How do I start composing a new message to a mailing list? What I usually do now is push L for list-reply the remove the body and appropriate headers. I have this in my config: subscribe mutt-users@ mailboxes =lists/mutt-users folder-hook =lists/mutt-users macro index m \mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]\ subscribe mutt-dev@ subscribe @bugs.guug.de mailboxes =lists/mutt-dev folder-hook =lists/mutt-dev macro index m \mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]\ When I hit m in my mutt folders, it executes the macro, with the appropriate stuff filled in. (darren) -- The ultimate metric that I would like to propose for user friendliness is quite simple: if this system was a person, how long would it take before you punched it in the nose? -- Tom Carey
Re: mutt hangs on any editor
* Lance Hoffmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 13:48]: Any ideas? Mutt hangs when I try to compose an email using any editor. ps -u `whoami` shows that no editor process is being started. I can compose messages as SU. What is $EDITOR set to? Is something waiting on stdin? (darren) -- Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim. -- George Santayana
Re: imap and new mail
* Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-12 10:12]: Here, with IMAP, I get new messages as expected. But when I reconnect to the server, all the new messages become old messages! This is very annoying, in particular when I have to quit and restart Mutt without having read all the new messages. :unset mark_old (darren) -- Quiet and courteous is often mistaken for kind and polite. -- Andrew Langmead
Re: Sourcing scripts, screen flashes.
* David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-11 15:22]: (This was when I changed my muttrc to call m4 as a preprocessor on my real muttrc, as some might recall.) I recall this, and also recall a promise to post said m4 config to the list, so we could see what it looked like... (darren) -- The language Unix is vastly more inconsistent than the language Perl. And guaranteed to remain that way, forever and ever, amen. -- Larry Wall
Re: new mail in sent-mail
* Keith Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-10 08:40]: Every time I send an email, my sent-mail box gets tagged with a new-mail N. This is good for *all* of my other mail directorys, but not not for sent-mail. Do you have send-mail in $mailboxes? (darren) -- Maybe that's the only truth in the world. Not the Bibles or poetry or philosophy but just the old jokes. -- Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson
Re: Mutt+Vim: ugly block cursor when editing
* Erik Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-09 06:36]: I started playing with colors in Vim when editing mutt messages. However, I get an ugly block cursor (orange or yellow depending on the terminal) on each empty line. I was getting something the same thing for a long time. $editor was set to vim -c '/^$', so it would start on the first blank line, and I had hlsearch set. You didn't specify the contents of $editor (the mutt-side variable, not the env var), and I didn't see hlsearch mentioned in your vimrc, but setting hlsearch right now gives me identical symptoms to what you're describing. So, try :set nohlsearch, and see if that works. (darren) -- You are what you see.
Re: display_filter + sed - tabs to quotes (was: A couple of questions)
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-05 20:47]:
* darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-05 15:37]:
Look at display_filter, section 6.3.36 in the manual
(http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#display_filter).
Set it to a script that does something like:
cat | sed -e s/^\t/ /g
uh. UUCA.
D'oh!
if using sed then stuff all the changes into
a file and let sed use for the filtering:
Yes, that's what I said (sed?): Set it [display_filter] to a script...
$ grep display_filter ~/.muttrc
set display_filter=/path/sed -f mutt.sed
$ cat mutt.sed
s/^\t/ /
Yep:
$ grep display_filter ~/.mutt/muttrc
set display_filter=~/.mutt/bin/display-filter
$ cat ~/.mutt/bin/display-filter
#!/usr/bin/sed -f
s/[!]\{2,\}/!/g
s/[?]\{2,\}/?/g
s/^--$/--\ /g
s/^\ --$/--\ /g
s/^[_]\{30,\}$/--\ /g
I'll take the UUCA for my example, though. :)
(darren)
--
Always keep a song in your heart -- it's like karaoke for the
voices in your head.
-- Robert Fulton Abernethy
Re: A couple of questions
* Michael Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-04 23:02]: 2. When I receive an e-mail from someone at work that is a reply to an earlier e-mail and I view it in the pager, where the other senders MUA inserted \t (tab) as the quote/attribution character, Mutt replaces the \t with a . I would like to keep the \t instead. I have played with indent_string and quote_regexp. Look at display_filter, section 6.3.36 in the manual (http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#display_filter). Set it to a script that does something like: cat | sed -e s/^\t/ /g (darren) -- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will.
Re: fcc and reply as in pine
* Richard P. Groenewegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-29 09:07]: I have just converted a friend from using pine to mutt. Nice. But there is still one features he misses and I would feel stupid saying: `well, this is nog the way we do things in mutt.' I love that game. :) When he replies to someguy@somewhere he wants the outgoing email to be saved in =someguy. I thought about doing the following: . use edit-headers . let the editor-variable be a script that does the following: . if the in-reply-to is present, lookup the recipient and write a corresponding fcc-header . invoke the editor of choice (vim) to the result Ouch, that's a lot of work. I think this will do it: fcc-save-hook . +%O The . applies the hook to all messages, and the %O turns into the before-the-@ part of the recipient address. (darren) -- What you do instead of your real work *is* your real work. -- Roger Ebert
Re: a number of newbie questions
* krjw [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-29 11:57]: Greetings, mutts. Yo. 1) Firstly, does mutt support or will mutt ever support extended maildirs? I've never seen extended maildirs 'till I started using maildrop, but they're kinky. They allow for folders-within-folders which is very handy. I don't know, but have you tried it? It seems like it would work. 3) [this is a vim question; don't shoot me :)] I've seen mutts start up vim as their editor like vim -c ':0;/^$' which I understand puts the cursor on the first empty line. Any way to place it at the end of the file (eg, last line)? set editor=vim +$ works for me, although that feels not right. (darren) -- I'm astounded by people who want to 'know' the universe when it's hard enough to find your way around Chinatown. -- Woody Allen
Re: TDMA (was Re: Spam filtering software)
* Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-28 08:38]: On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 01:58:32PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: 2) the smtp server of your provider accepts addresses with extensions I can't see this bit about accepting addresses with extensions. My adddress here is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and that's it, I don't *think* any alternatives are possible which will reach me here. I think + addresses are the extension referred to above; have you tried them? I.e., [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- most modern SMTP servers will Do The Right Thing, and deliver it to the mailbox for user chris. Sendmail does it, so does postfix, qmail does it but uses a - instead of a + by default. I'm sure others do as well. Oh yeah, almost forgot -- only the MTA that invokes the MDA needs to support it. (darren) -- Whatever is done for love is beyond good and evil. -- Friedrich Neitzsche
Re: mutt and mail archives
* Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-28 04:36]: you're not updateting it in maildir form, what's the advantage of using maildir here over mbox? lazyness ;-) I simply do a tar czf archiv.year folderlist ... converting to mbox would include some more steps. Sorry you can not simply cat maildir/* mbox. What about maildir2mbox? I think it's part of qmail, yes? (darren) -- ...if we judge something by how badly it is misused, well, hell would be perl, right? -- dancer (http://www.advogato.org/person/dancer/)
Re: mutt + procmail + nfs...
* kevin lyda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-31 12:44]: however, this is the dreaded mailbox on nfs issue. do procmail and mutt play nice on nfs? Mutt and procmail both support Maildir natively. See http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html. (darren) -- Patriotism is the last resource of scoundrels. -- Samuel Johnson
Re: aliases
* Rikard Florin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-08 20:29]:
I'm wondering if it's possible to have mutt aliases _without_ a proper
alias. sounds weird maybe, but i have a big contact list with email
adresses which I want to use in Mutt as an addressbook to walk through
when I press tab to bring up the aliases.
the problem is that if I don't supply an alias for the alias (which
sort of is the idea I guess) Mutt will make it like...
FirstnameLastname [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simple solution:
$ awk '{printf %s.%s %s\n, $1, $2, $0}' old-alias-file new-alias-file
The alias would be Firstname.Lastname, and the rest is the same.
(darren)
--
As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it
as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins.
-- Albert Schweitzer
Re: [semi-OT] bash complete a la tcsh
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-05 00:08]:
In tcsh, as discussed on the list quite a while back, one can
construct a command to complete mutt folders as shown in the attached
snippet (I watched the ideas come across and saved all of the various
flavors, so I have more than just one line).
Can the same thing be done in bash? I see that bash also has a
complete command but the man pages are a little obtuse and I can't
tell if such delightful magic is possible. I know that I sure miss it
already, though!
Here's a simple bash function/complete pair that is a (good?) place to
begin. I've only been using bash's programmable completion for a few
weeks, and I'm still pretty new at it. The gist of it is, fill the
COMPREPLY array with the output of compgen; the trick is getting the
correct thing into COMPREPLY, of course.
There is a bug in here, somewhere; if you do mutt -f =mbtab, and have
a mailbox beginning with mb, or course, it ends up with two ='s at the
beginning. This doesn't happen if you define your lists with + and not
=, so there's probably something special about using = as a beginning
character.
Another fun thing this does is give a command-line arg summary unless
you are typing -f, in which case it gives you mailboxes. A good
improvement would be that -atab, -itab, -Ftab, and -Htab give
you file completions, and -ctab and -btab give you email address
completions from your ~/.mail_aliases file.
Be sure to set MBOXLIST and MUTT appropriately, BTW.
_mutt() {
local MBOXLIST=$HOME/.mutt/lists
local MUTT=/usr/bin/mutt
local mboxes cur prev
mboxes=$(grep '^ *mailboxes' $MBOXLIST | sed -e s/mailboxes// | tr -d \012)
COMPREPLY=()
cur=${COMP_WORDS[COMP_CWORD]}
prev=${COMP_WORDS[COMP_CWORD-1]}
if [[ $prev == -f ]]
then
COMPREPLY=( $(compgen -W $mboxes $cur) );
else
COMPREPLY=( $(compgen -W $($MUTT -h | awk '/^ *\-/{printf %s , $1}')) )
fi
return 0;
}
complete -F _mutt -o default mutt
Good luck.
(darren)
--
It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother
me, it's the parts that I do understand.
-- Mark Twain
Re: [semi-OT] bash complete a la tcsh
I've banged together a (reasonably) complete version of the completion
stuff for bash that David T-G asked about earlier. It's attached. The
only thing that doesn't seem to work for me is getting aliases from
~/.mutt/aliases (the commented out awk piece); the awk script works from
the command line but goes into an infinite loop within the _mutt
function.
If anyone decides to try to use this, be sure to set $MBOXLISTS and
$MUTT to correct values for your setup, of course.
I'll look into donating it to tbe Bash Programmable Completion project
next week.
(darren)
--
We protest things because we are too impotent to effect change. We
effect change through positive action, not simply through
demonstrations of intent.
# vim: set ft=sh:
_mutt() {
local MBOXLIST=$HOME/.mutt/lists
local MUTT=/usr/bin/mutt
local ALIASES=$HOME/.mutt/aliases
local mboxes cur prev
mboxes=$(grep '^ *mailboxes' $MBOXLIST | sed -e s/mailboxes// | tr -d \012)
COMPREPLY=()
cur=${COMP_WORDS[COMP_CWORD]}
prev=${COMP_WORDS[COMP_CWORD-1]}
if [[ $prev == -f ]]
then
# Mailbox name
COMPREPLY=( $(compgen -W $mboxes $cur) );
elif [[ $prev == -a ]] || [[ $prev == -F ]] || \
[[ $prev == -H ]] || [[ $prev == -i ]]
then
# Files: attach (-a), alternate muttrc (-F), headers (-H), include
# (-i)
COMPREPLY=( $(compgen -W $(echo *) $cur) )
elif [[ $prev == -m ]]
then
# Mailbox type: mbox, MMDF, MH, Maildir
COMPREPLY=( $(compgen -W mbox MMDF MH Maildir $cur ) )
#elif [[ $prev == -b ]] || [[ $prev == -c ]]
#then
## Addresses: Cc (-c) and Bcc (-b)
#addresses=$(awk '$NF~/$/{gsub([],,$NF); print $NF}' $ALIASES)
#COMPREPLY=( $(compgen -W $addresses $cur) )
else
# Default: Mutt help (mutt -h)
COMPREPLY=( $(compgen -W $($MUTT -h | awk '/^ *\-/{printf %s , $1}') $cur)
)
fi
return 0;
}
complete -F _mutt -o default mutt
Re: random header script?
* Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-23 08:00]: If you still want to use a script but don't want to eat filesize * structure overhead and IO every invocation, you'll want to seek to somewhere random in the file and read until you get a complete line, ala (in Ruby): begin File.open(file) do |f| f.seek(rand(File.size(file))) f.gets puts f.gets end rescue EOFError retry end This will, however, guarantee the first line will never be read, and choose longer lines over shorter ones. I have a fortune file (standard strfile format) that I use, and occasionally my vi modeline (line 1) comes up as a fortune. This is an ideal solution... ;) (darren) -- Most rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read. -- Frank Zappa
Re: Autoconfiguration of subject
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-23 16:04]: One thing I do by mail is play some games at www.gamerz.net/pbmserv and their you set your game commando in the subject. Is there someway I could adjust the subject before I get the question by mutt what the subject should be so I don't have to repeat the same procedur every time. Has anyone set up a procmail recipe to play the game? Sounds like it might be a fun time... (darren) -- To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition. -- Woody Allen
Re: Set from shows no affect
* AxUm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-11 03:00]: Michael Tatge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: set realname=Oliver Fuchs set [EMAIL PROTECTED] set use_from # should be default set envelope_from # see manual section 6.3.43. Humm, even with that the from in a send hooks only takes effect if I start a message twice, realname takes the first time. set use_from set envelope_from send-hook x \ 'set realname=tc; set from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]' any ideas? send-hook gets executed when you send the message, not when you start a message. Thus, you see the results for the next message. (darren) -- I don't mow lawns for the reason that I don't shave.
Re: 3 quick questions
* Peter Gelbman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-08 01:54]: ## Delete messages to the trash can rather than bit-bucket, unless ## we're in the trash folder. folder-hook . macro index d save-message=trashenter folder-hook . macro pager d save-message=trashenter folder-hook . macro pager D delete-message folder-hook trash macro index d delete-message folder-hook trash macro pager d delete-message # When we go into to the trash folder, tag stuff greater than 14 # days old. Don't mark anything that's already flagged, though. folder-hook trash push 'D~r14d!~F\n' Thanks for the tip. I've used almost the same setup for a while, but yours is cleaner. I'd like to use the push thing but when I go into my trash folder it get a: Key is not bound. Press '?' for help. Running Running 1.3.28i under Solaris 8 Where can I find out more about the push command to tweak it to my own tastes? Thanx The push command assumes that your bindings are the same as mine. I've been meaning to modify it for a while to: folder-hook trash push 'delete-pattern~r14d!~Fcr' Which doesn't assume anything about bindings. (darren) -- Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.
Re: How can I save the help screens?
* Russell Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-10 08:38]: Is there an easy way to save mutt's help screens to a file, without doing a cut paste? I find: cat /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt | col -bx to be the easiest way. This will dump it to stdout; redirect it to a file, or lpr, or wherever. (darren) -- The history of Liberty is a history of the limitation of government power. -- Woodrow Wilson
Re: How can I save the help screens?
* Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-10 10:20]: * darren chamberlain [02-06-10 16:15:05 +0200] wrote: * Russell Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-10 08:38]: Is there an easy way to save mutt's help screens to a file, without doing a cut paste? cat /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt | col -bx ...but it won't show the current key bindings and your adjustments are skipped, too. Ah, I misunderstood the question. Sorry for the useless info... (darren) -- The Net inteprets censorship as damage and routes around it. -- John Gilmore
Re: 3 quick questions
* Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-06 16:40]:
Well here's a feature request. I wish there were an option to have
mutt prompt you for which return address to use, being able to pick
from a menu of addresses set somewhere in the muttrc. Any
possibility?
A few months ago, some (sorry, I don't remember who) posted a patch that
adds an ask-from quadoption, which does what you're asking for in not
too many lines. It's written against 1.3.27, and I've applied it to
1.3.28 (haven't tried 1.4 yet). It's attached.
(darren)
--
Students achieving Oneness will move on to Twoness.
-- Woody Allen
diff -rup mutt-1.3.27.orig/init.h mutt-1.3.27/init.h
--- mutt-1.3.27.orig/init.h Mon Dec 10 02:09:03 2001
+++ mutt-1.3.27/init.h Tue Feb 12 12:28:01 2002
@@ -181,6 +181,12 @@ struct option_t MuttVars[] = {
** If set, Mutt will use plain ASCII characters when displaying thread
** and attachment trees, instead of the default \fIACS\fP characters.
*/
+ { askfrom, DT_BOOL, R_NONE, OPTASKFROM, 0 },
+ /*
+ ** .pp
+ ** If set, Mutt will prompt you for a From: address
+ ** before editing an outgoing message.
+ */
{ askbcc, DT_BOOL, R_NONE, OPTASKBCC, 0 },
/*
** .pp
diff -rup mutt-1.3.27.orig/mutt.h mutt-1.3.27/mutt.h
--- mutt-1.3.27.orig/mutt.h Tue Jan 15 13:00:32 2002
+++ mutt-1.3.27/mutt.h Tue Feb 12 12:30:20 2002
@@ -307,6 +307,7 @@ enum
OPTALLOWANSI,
OPTARROWCURSOR,
OPTASCIICHARS,
+ OPTASKFROM,
OPTASKBCC,
OPTASKCC,
OPTATTACHSPLIT,
diff -rup mutt-1.3.27.orig/send.c mutt-1.3.27/send.c
--- mutt-1.3.27.orig/send.c Fri Dec 28 09:14:36 2001
+++ mutt-1.3.27/send.c Tue Feb 12 12:23:27 2002
@@ -201,6 +201,8 @@ static int edit_envelope (ENVELOPE *en)
char buf[HUGE_STRING];
LIST *uh = UserHeader;
+ if (option (OPTASKFROM) edit_address (en-from, From: ) == -1 || en-from ==
+NULL)
+return (-1);
if (edit_address (en-to, To: ) == -1 || en-to == NULL)
return (-1);
if (option (OPTASKCC) edit_address (en-cc, Cc: ) == -1)
Re: 3 quick questions
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-06 16:31]: % 1. Where do D (deleted) msgs go? Is there an equivalent of % trash, or am I truly out of the disneyland GUI world now and % just like using rm on files, there's no going back. With the stock version, that's the way it is. [-- snip --] Other folks have in the past whipped up some macros that bind 'd' to actually save to some other folder where you *then* really delete the messages later. I have been using this setup for over a year, and it works great: ## Delete messages to the trash can rather than bit-bucket, unless ## we're in the trash folder. folder-hook . macro index d save-message=trashenter folder-hook . macro pager d save-message=trashenter folder-hook . macro pager D delete-message folder-hook trash macro index d delete-message folder-hook trash macro pager d delete-message # When we go into to the trash folder, tag stuff greater than 14 # days old. Don't mark anything that's already flagged, though. folder-hook trash push 'D~r14d!~F\n' Thus, in all folders except trash, 'd' moves the message to the trash folder, and 'D' deletes it for real, when I'm viewing the message (in the index, 'D' still maps to delete-pattern). Every few days or so, I go into the trash folder to clean it out (I save 2 weeks worth of trash). Hope that's helpful. (darren) -- We can't all, and some of us don't. That's all there is to it. -- Eeyore
Re: ask-from quadoption was 3 quick questions
* Kevin Coyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-07 09:28]: Many thanks for the patch. I'll give it a try, but have to learn how to apply them first. I've graduated from windoze to linux rpms to now being comfortable with compiling source, but haven't tried the patch route yet. Got to read up on it first. In this case, the patch can be applied, from within the mutt source directory, like so: $ patch -p1 patch-1.3.27.ds.askfrom.txt For patch, the -p# tells patch how many directory levels to remove from the filenames. If you read through the patch file, you can see that it references files as mutt-1.3.27/init.h and mutt-1.3.27/send.c, which is to say 1 directory and then a filename, so patch has to strip off 1 level of directories to file the name of the file to patch. (darren) -- All men are mortal. Socrates was mortal. Therefore, all men are Socrates. -- Woody Allen
Re: Color with folder-hooks and status changes
* Joseph Ishac [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-07 15:11]: Actually, I wasn't aware you could do that with the folder-hook command. :) However, I did a quick copy/paste on the lines below and it didn't remedy the problem. I think I'll stick with the four term expression with the use of ~P (which I didn't know about either). Make sure that the lines you pasted in had nothing after the \ 's; they need to escape the newline. (darren) -- The rebootings will continue until the configuration works.
Re: Lotus Notes server?
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-05 22:07]: * darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-05 19:44]: Notes has an IMAP interface, which is, AFAIK, compatible with other IMAP implementations. I have co-worker who have used mutt with our internal Notes server without too many problems. without too many problems? how many exactly? This was about two years ago; I think the problems were with mutt's IMAP support (I remember him trying to diagnose segfaults), but I'm not sure, because it wasn't me, and I know better than to acknowledge the Notes server. ;) (darren) -- Alden's Laws: (1) Giving away baby clothes and furniture is the major cause of pregnancy. (2) Always be backlit. (3) Sit down whenever possible.
Re: key macros
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04 13:17]: It looks like that's the case for Ctl, anyway, and maybe for Shf. Given, thanks to my new friend Bob, the handy perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' to take input per line and spit out key codes and then running echo ctl-v f1 | ... echo ctl-v shf-f1 | ... echo ctl-v ctl-ft | ... we get 27 79 80 27 91 50 51 126 27 79 80 (where F1 and Ctl-F1 appear as '^[OP' and Shf-F1 is '^[[23~'), so there is no difference whatsoever between F1 and C-F1, while S-F1 might be tricky to recognize because it's longer (and, in fact, the same as F11, as Kurt showed). I get: $ echo ctrl-v f1 | perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' 27 79 80 $ echo ctrl-v ctrl-F1 | perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' 27 79 53 80 I'm using a happy hacking keyboard, which might make a difference, but I doubt it. (darren) -- People who are willing to give up freedom for the sake of short term security, deserve neither freedom nor security. -- Ben Franklin
Re: colorize a word
* andrej hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-05-10 04:49]: how do I instruct mutt to colourize only a certain word in the header of a message? I'd like to make for instance the word From: appear in red, while the text following it in default, i.e. no colour. I just posted a patch that allows for this yesterday (or was it the day before?). Search the archives for Message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is my message with the patch attached (and the followup, which has David T-G taking credit for it ;). (darren) -- Competition is a by-product of productive work, not its goal. A creative man is motivated by the desire to achieve, not by the desire to beat others. -- Ayn Rand
Re: colorize a word
* andrej hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-05-10 08:58]: On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 08:09:59AM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote: I just posted a patch that allows for this yesterday (or was it the day Great; I've found it. Would you please tell me how to apply it? I've installed mutt from a .deb, so I'll have to go get the source, right? Yes. Here's a (simplistic) step-by-step: ncftpget ftp://ftp.mutt.org/mutt/mutt-1.3.99i.tar.gz gunzip -c mutt-1.3.99i.tar.gz | tar xf - cd mutt-1.3.99 patch -p0 /path/to/patch-1.3.2609.whatever.its.called ./configure --with-the-right=options make make install The key is the patch line (4th line). Good luck. (darren) -- Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.
Re: deleting messages and default folders
* Mike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-05-10 09:36]: Hello Mutters, My switch from Pine to Mutt is going pretty well so far. I have a few questions that I could use some help with though. Good news. - Let's say I delete all messages in a folder by pressing 'd'. Then I go to Undelete them. I can't seem to figure out how to go up to select those deleted messages. The cursor only highlights undeleted messages. I can use 'U' to undelete via a pattern, but I'd rather not have to do that. Am I missing something? You need to bind something to next-entry and previous-entry. By default, up and down are bound to next-undeleted and previous-undeleted. This is what I have: # vi-like keys bind index j next-undeleted bind index J next-entry bind index k previous-undeleted bind index K previous-entry (These may actually be the defaults, so try them out before you rebind your keys.) - Also, is there a way to have mutt open in a file folder other than your spoolfile? My spoolfile isn't my primary mailbox, and I'd rather have Mutt open my primary by default. mutt -f +mailboxname (darren) -- Intolerance is the last defense of the insecure.
Re: Different colour after signature
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-05-09 12:47]: Darren, et al -- ...and then darren chamberlain said... % ... There's the hdrpart patch, which allows for exactly that. I use it to ... I don't remember where I got it, so I'll attach it. I've applied it to 1.3.22 and 1.3.28 without incident. ... [-- Attachment #2: patch-1.3.2609.mg.hdrcolor.1.dtg.txt --] Since there's a dtg on it, it looks like you grabbed my tweaked version from my cocktail site. Anyone else can get it at http://mutt.justpickone.org/ under /cocktail as they may need it. Show off. ;) (darren) -- Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence. -- Napolean Bonaparte
Re: JAVA applet to run mutt via http
* Marco Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-29 13:52]: Last but not least: what was that JAVA applet called anyway? I think you're looking for MindTerm, which google tells me is at http://www.appgate.com/ag.asp?template=productslevel1=product_mindterm. (darren) -- Words are also deeds. -- Wittgenstein
Re: JAVA applet to run mutt via http
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-29 15:43]: begin darren chamberlain quotation: * Marco Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-29 13:52]: Last but not least: what was that JAVA applet called anyway? I think you're looking for MindTerm, which google tells me is at http://www.appgate.com/ag.asp?template=productslevel1=product_mindterm. However, FYI, a Java telnet isn't going to do what Marco wants. yeah, but that's what he asked for. ;) If his company only lets http through the firewall, then running a Java telnet on his home system will give him a nice Java applet running on his side of the firewall, no more able to connect to his home system than a telnet written in any other language. True. I think what he meant was some sort of java app that can run on the server side (i.e., behind the firewall) and connect out to his machine on the other side, since outgoing traffic is usually less restricted than incoming traffic. What he *really* wants here is something to kick off a port-forwarding ssh on the internal side that will allow him to log into a box behind the firewall. Sounds like he needs some kind of http-based proxy, unless the firewall is dumb enough to let non-http things through port 80, in which case I'd recommend ssh. If the company lets through port 80, they probably also let through port 443; run an sshd on port 443 (all encrypted traffic looks the same, but encrypted traffic going through port 80 will look suspicious -- assuming someone is looking at the streams going through the firewall), and you've got yourself an instant hole in the firewall. This is one of the principle reasons why firewalls are ineffective, BTW. (darren) -- Freedom is an all-or-nothing proposition: either we are completely free, or we are subjects of a tyrannical system. If we lose one freedom in a thousand, we become completely subjugated.
Re: [OT] procmail rule
* Benjamin Michotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-18 15:55]: sorry for the off-topic but I would like to add a rules to my procmailrc to create archive by month; ie mutt-users.april.2002 :0 * ^[EMAIL PROTECTED] mutt-users.`date +%B.%Y | tr 'A-Z' 'a-z'` The tr will do lower casing, as well. Tested on Linux and Solaris. (darren) -- Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature. -- Rich Kulawiec
Re: mail-followup-to header
* Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-17 14:06]: I use diferent email addresses to subscribe to diferent lists, ejg-mutt for mutt-users and ejg-qmail for qmail lists. I use ejg too. Is the following alternetes set appropriately for my scenario? set alternates=^ejg.*(-mutt|-qmail)@ar.homelinux.org$ I'd do it like: set alternates = ejg(-mutt|-qmail)?@ar\.homelinux\.org I have something like: set alternates = dlc(-.*)?@(host1|host2) So that I don't have to keep updating $alternates when I add new -pieces. (darren) -- All is fear in love and war.
Re: I've broken something
* John Buttery [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-11 09:27]: * darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-10 15:19:58 -0400]: If you like pain, try stracing a mutt session: strace -o /tmp/mutt.out mutt Actually, vim has very passable syntax highlighting for strace output files...saved me a lot of headaches. Just name the file *.strace and open it in vim (I'm not sure if the .strace extension is necessary, I just always use it and I know it worked with that). You're right, it is pretty good. Just running :set ft=strace will be enough, if the extension is not .strace. (darren) -- Don't create a problem for which you do not have the answer.
Re: Organizing mailfolders (strategies and using with mutt)
* Johan Almqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-11 09:44]: * Kai Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020411 14:32]: I am just reorganzing my mail sorting and filtering. I now use a structure like that: Mail/list/mutt-users Mail/list/debian-users Mail/mail/inbox Mail/mail/private ... Have you tried mailboxes `echo ~/Mail/*/*` That assumes he only has one level of subdirectories, but he mentioned ~/Mail/lists/mutt-users/2002-04 (or similar), so that's not necessarily true. If the problem is the newlines, as someone suggested, give this a try: mailboxes `echo \`find ~/Mail -type f -print\`` which gives me a full list with no newlines. The nested backticks are ugly; if you are on a machine where your shell is bash (or bash disguising itself as /bin/sh) try: mailboxes `echo $(find ~/Mail -type f -print)` Although that's completely untested, it seems that it would work if the shell understands the $() syntax, since everything in `` is passed to the shell. (darren) -- How you look depends on where you go.
Re: Feature request: uncolor not only in index
* Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-10 10:22]: [-- snip --] That being said, I would really like such an uncolor feature myself. I receive internal newsletters that I find easier to read if I highlight the section headings like this: display-hook '~s blips' 'push /\^[A-Z0-9][A-Z0-9 [:punct:]]*$^M' These highlights disappear, however, whenever I search for something. Being able to color and uncolor patterns in the pager would be a good solution. Where does display-hook come from? I just built 1.3.28 and use 1.3.22.1 regularly and neither has it. I'm assuming it comes from a patch, but which one? (darren) -- I accept chaos. I'm not sure whether it accepts me. I know some people are terrified of the bomb. But then some people are terrified to be seen carrying a modern screen magazine. Experience teaches us that silence terrified people the most. -- Bob Dylan
Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-11 12:24]: Well, in my best low tech manner, I think I've come up with something of promise. What I did was: 1) Select all the messages in the inbox or outbox. 2) Perform File|Save As and save the entire contents as a text file. These big text files open fine with vim. When I get home, I may have to fiddle with the From header to get things right. But, this may work. I'll report back. Try formail; I think it can add missing From lines. (darren) -- The biggest difference between time and space is that you can't reuse time. -- Merrick Furst
Re: Feature request: uncolor not only in index
* Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-11 12:02]: On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:54:49AM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote: That being said, I would really like such an uncolor feature myself. I receive internal newsletters that I find easier to read if I highlight the section headings like this: display-hook '~s blips' 'push /\^[A-Z0-9][A-Z0-9 [:punct:]]*$^M' These highlights disappear, however, whenever I search for something. Being able to color and uncolor patterns in the pager would be a good solution. Where does display-hook come from? I just built 1.3.28 and use 1.3.22.1 regularly and neither has it. I'm assuming it comes from a patch, but which one? I _think_ it's actually a message-hook? Yup, got it. Thanks. I was interested in the hook displayed above, which is why I was looking for display-hook in the first place. I noticed, though, that the above command jumps to the first occurance of the match, so my version adds a top after the search. Here is an example, similar to the above: message-hook ~s 'pgp|gpg' 'push searchpgp|gpgReturntop' This highlights pgp and gpg in messages with pgp or gpg in the subject. Thanks to all who helped. (darren) -- A theory is not accepted when it's critics are converted, but when they eventually die. -- Maxwell Plank
Re: I've broken something
* Rafael C. Gawenda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-10 14:50]: Don't know if it's my config, or some broken patch, I suppose it's the first option, but when I enter my spool (by just nachine$ muttCR), read a message, and quit, the mailbox doesn't get updated, ie, If I reenter, the msg is still there (instead of being moved to +mbox), and marked as New... Has somebody seen a similar behaviour? Is the spool directory mounted via NFS? Are permissions correct on $MAIL? Is /var some kind of strange partition type? Are you (accidentally) opening the mailbox readonly (try bouncing on '%' a few times)? (darren) -- All things are possible, except for skiing through a revolving door.
Re: syntax highlighting in mutt
* Jim MacBaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-05 16:52]: Hello everybody, I'm regularly recieving perl and java programs and I have to sort out the good from the bad. Perl - good. Java - bad. Done. :) Right now I'm using mutt and use a mailcap entry to open the attachments in NEdit to have the syntax highlighted and help my brain sorting the code. Why are you attempting to do this in your MUA? But it would be great to have a auto_view filter that shows the mail coloured. Something like lynx -dump with the right escape sequences. Have you considered using vim as your pager? I've not digged deeper into vi/vim than the basic editing functions, but perhaps it can be misused for this... vim already does syntax highlighting, if you have it configured for it, so that should be a good way to go. (darren) -- A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any other invention, with the possible exceptions of handguns and Tequila. -- Mitch Ratcliffe
Re: syntax highlighting in mutt
* Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-05 17:57]: On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 06:01:44PM -0500, David T-G wrote: ...and then Jim MacBaine said... I'm regularly recieving perl and java programs and I have to sort out the good from the bad. The perl sounds fun, but I feel for you for the java junk ;-) At least java has a well-defined grammar which makes it easy to parse. (perl, otoh...) Perl parser? Sure, look at perly.c and toke.c in the perl source... I haven't seen a syntax highlighter for perl that handles all of perl (counting vim, vile, emacs). As a professional perl programmer, I have to say that I've found vim to be the least deficient in parsing perl syntax. Better than Emacs' cperl-mode (not a flame, and observation!) and light year's better than anything else (have you how atrocious enscript's syntax highlighting for perl is?). The things most highlighter seem to have a problem with (inculding emacs) is POD, regexes, and the alternative quoting mechanisms. Perhaps that should be a feature of perl 6. Actually, it is. (darren) -- We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart. -- H.L.Mencken
Re: [feature requests] view attached file.
I use 2 or 3 softwares that do the same things (example image viewer), but I would like to choose the correct viewer (xv doesn't support animated gif but it is lighter that any other image viewer I have). It would be great if mutt propose all the viewer for that content-type according to the mailcap file. Use a shell script to view */*, and have the shell script Do The Right Thing. (darren) -- Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it. -- Andre Gide
Re: help with folder hook?
* Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-08 15:20]: Hi everyone... Could someone help me sort this folder-hook out please? folder-hook =Tioka/nick set my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] folder-hook =Tioka/nick set my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you need to put set inside the quotes. (darren) -- Maybe this world is another planet's hell. -- Aldous Huxley
Re: send-hook and set
* Peter T. Abplanalp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-04 10:51]: i think i know the answer to this but i wanted to make sure... if i have a send-hook: send-hook somelist set pgp_autosign=no it changes the value of pgp_autosign from there on out, yes? it is not a temporary item just for this send afterwhich the global value of pgp_autosign returns. that is why when i asked about send hooks everyone gave me two send-hooks instead of one. Correct. That's why almost all examples like this also include something along the lines of: send-hook . set pgp_autosign=yes And then have send-hooks for specific exceptions to the general rule. (darren) -- Humor distorts nothing, and only false gods are laughed off their earthly pedestals. -- Agnes Repplier
Re: display proces id (Re: to GNU ps or not to GNU ps)
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 09:40]: ObMutt: can mutt display its own process id? the display of the porcess id would be helpful when there's a problem with mutt. the admin could add this number to the status_format in /etc/Muttrc so that users will see it and will catch it with a screen hardcopy. bug reports might then be handled much quicker.. This made me interested. This works for me, against mutt-1.3.27. Ite defines %$ as the status char for the pid. My rudimentary tests show that it Does The Right Thing. (I diff'ed with -caw; is there a preferred option set for mutt patches?) (darren) *** status.c.orig Wed Apr 3 11:11:19 2002 --- status.cWed Apr 3 11:17:51 2002 *** *** 52,58 * %S = current aux sorting method ($sort_aux) * %t = # of tagged messages [option] * %v = Mutt version ! * %V = currently active limit pattern [option] */ static const char * status_format_str (char *buf, size_t buflen, char op, const char *src, const char *prefix, const char *ifstring, --- 52,59 * %S = current aux sorting method ($sort_aux) * %t = # of tagged messages [option] * %v = Mutt version ! * %V = currently active limit pattern [option] ! * %$ = current pid */ static const char * status_format_str (char *buf, size_t buflen, char op, const char *src, const char *prefix, const char *ifstring, *** *** 272,277 --- 273,283 optional = 0; break; + case '$': + snprintf (fmt, sizeof(fmt), %%%sd, prefix); + snprintf (buf, buflen, fmt, getpid()); + break; + case 0: *buf = 0; return (src); -- Responsible behavior is the result of a socialization process.
Re: outgoingmail
* Johannes Breu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 13:16]: I can get mails from my POP-server using mutt but I am not able to send mails. I think is due to unsuccessfull configuration of sendmail. So this is my question: How do I configure sendmail? I just want sendmail to know my SMTP-server. Nothing more. If it is important: my computer is stably integrated in an network. If you have a mailhost (I'll assume by stably integrated that you do), you can build your sendmail.cf with define(`SMART_HOST', `esmtp:mailhost') in the m4 config; the resulting line in the sendmail.cf looks like: DSesmtp:mailhost (I think that's all you need.) However, I recommend ssmtp. Keep reading if you care. If you can help me please say I exactly wih which commands I need to configure sendmail. I really got angry with that. We've all been there. I just installed ssmtp the other day, and it was trivial. The entirety of my config looks like: # # /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf -- a config file for sSMTP sendmail. # # The person who gets all mail for userids 1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] # The place where the mail goes. The actual machine name is required # no MX records are consulted. Commonly mailhosts are named mail.domain.com # The example will fit if you are in domain.com and your mailhub is so named. mailhub=mailhost # Where will the mail seem to come from? rewriteDomain=real.domain # The full hostname hostname=me.real.domain Furhter information: I am using Debian 2.2. In some way sendmail seems to be connected with zmailer. I am not familiar with this either. All I want to know is what do I have to do that my outgoing mail goes to the SMTP-server. You should be able to apt-get install ssmtp: $ apt-cache search ssmtp ssmtp - Extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub (darren) -- There is not enough love in the world to squander it on anything by human beings.
Re: Sending Mail
* Michael Montagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 14:41]: I apologize for asking a question that I know I've seen before, but I just can't seem to find it in the archives. When sending a message, after editing the text and exiting out of vim, I'm taken to a screen and required to press Y to send. How can I make Y the default so I can press ENTER? I believe ENTER is bound to edit, and I don't want to lose that ability either. bind compose Return send-message bind compose v view-attach (darren) -- There is nothing like returning to a place that remains unchanged to find the ways in which you yourself have altered. -- Nelson Mandela
Re: change $record based on mailboxes
* Jun Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 14:55]: I have multiple mailbox folders. I want to save a copy of outgoing message in the current mbox folder. Pretty reasonable enough. The following solution seems to work: [-- snip --] 6.3.51. force_name Type: boolean Default: no This variable is similar to $save_name, except that Mutt will store a copy of your outgoing message by the username of the address you are sending to even if that mailbox does not exist. Also see the $record variable. ... 6.3.189. save_name Type: boolean Default: no This variable controls how copies of outgoing messages are saved. When set, a check is made to see if a mailbox specified by the recipient address exists (this is done by searching for a mailbox in the $folder directory with the username part of the recipient address). If the mailbox exists, the outgoing message will be saved to that mailbox, otherwise the message is saved to the $record mailbox. Also see the $force_name variable. (darren) -- Those who learn from history are doomed to have it repeated to them anyway. -- Larry Wall
Re: display proces id (Re: to GNU ps or not to GNU ps)
* Jeremy Blosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 16:19]: On Apr 03, darren chamberlain [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: (I diff'ed with -caw; is there a preferred option set for mutt patches?) -dup Noted. (darren) -- The moment one gives close attention to anything, even a blade of grass, it becomes a mysterious, awesome, indescribably magnificent world in itself. -- Henry Miller
Re: OT: OS / distro / kernel
* Mike Schiraldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-28 10:42]: Except that Linux is only the kernel. Linux + GNU + some other files and configuration is the OS. That, plus some applications is the distribution. You're wrong. How is he wrong? I was wondering that too; he seems pretty right on, to me. (darren) -- To believe is very dull. To doubt is intensely engrossing. To be on alert is to live, to be lulled into security is to die. -- Oscar Wilde
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
Quoting David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 27, 2002 08:19]: I think he actually means 'hostname', not 'uname'; hostname, on any sane system, displays the hostname when called with no args, and tries to set I agree so far, but ... Here is I think what happened: $ uname -a; hostname -i SunOS mail 5.8 Generic_108528-03 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi-cEngine uname: not super user $ Yes? GNU's hostname has a -i option which returns an IP address; Solaris' hostname does not. I've had freshly installed Solaris boxen with a hostname of -i before... ;) (darren) -- Democracy is a form of government where you can say what you think, even if you don't think.
Re: mutt+Outlook - calendar utility?
Quoting Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 26, 2002 17:25]: * David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 19:34]: On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:30:19AM -0500, Adam Shostack wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:15:47AM -0500, Mike Schiraldi wrote: ..it would be way cool to have an interface that downloaded your mail into mutt, and left your calendar in Evolution. It would be even nicer if there was a connector product that worked with mutt instead of Evolution so that you could reply to appointments from Outlook clients without using the web client or vmware. ok, now the problem has been identified and a possible solution has been suggested. good. now - can somebody please do some research on the net and set up a web page for this? There is Reefknot (URL:http://www.reefknot.org/), which is building RFC 2445 (the iCal RFC)-compliant calendaring libraries and software. It is written in Perl and is in an early phase, although they have done extensive work on documenting the RFC and it's various details (and other implementations). They have also done a huge amount of work towards attempting to standardize date and time handling in Perl, with internationalization specifically in mind. For people interested in calendaring but interested in Reefknot (or Perl ;), they have produced several documents describing the RFC, such as the Bootstrap guide http://www.reefknot.org/bootstrap-guide/. (darren) -- Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. -- Diderot
Re: How to - keystrokes?
* Dave Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-27 10:31]: I really did take a look at the online help and docs first ... Are there quick ways to: * change to main inbox? If you mean your spool ($MAIL in the shell), there is the ! shortcut. * save a message to a specific folder without confirmation - can i turn the append to folder confirmation off globally? 6.3.26. confirmappend Type: boolean Default: yes When set, Mutt will prompt for confirmation when appending messages to an existing mailbox. 6.3.27. confirmcreate Type: boolean Default: yes When set, Mutt will prompt for confirmation when saving messages to a mailbox which does not yet exist before creating it. Set these to no. * select and save a group of messages matching a pattern to a particular folder? Use tagging, in this case tag-pattern, which I think is bound to T by default, and tag-prefix, bound to ; to save the messages: T~A;s=somewhere/else will tag all messages (~A), apply the save function (;s) to them, and set the box to be somewhere/else. (darren) -- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will.
Re: thread view
Quoting Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 26, 2002 10:02]: How can i configure muttrc to collapse thread messages ? collapse-thread, bound to \ev by default (I think). There's also collapse-all, bound to \eV. (darren) -- Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim. -- George Santayana
Re: reverse_name question
Quoting Tim Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 26, 2002 12:33]: Sorry if this has been asked a lot. I've been looking through the 'net, and various archives of various messages, for an answer to how I can get mutt to reply to emails using the To address, as the From address. my local account name is sugarat. but I also get mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. When people send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I want to automatically use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my From address in any replies. I tried to figure out something similar a while ago, but as far as I can tell, there is no way to set headers based on a message you are relpying to. A possible solution is a send-hook/macro combination that sets the From: header: send-hook . 'my_hdr From: me [EMAIL PROTECTED]' macro index \er 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED];reply' macro pager \er 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED];reply' This sets the default From to me [EMAIL PROTECTED] (set this to your real values, of course), and then, when you want to reply to something sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], do escr instead of just r. This is untested, BTW, but I think it's basically sound. (darren) -- If it turns out that there is a God, I don't think that he's evil. But the worst that you can say about him is that basically he's an underachiever. -- Woody Allen
Re: Command expansion
Quoting Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 26, 2002 14:55]: The problem is the following: if I would type fast enough to send a few dozen mails a minute, I wanted to be abled to include the date and time in the file I specify by the 'record' variable. Using `date`. But `date` is only expanded on startup. Pipes may not be used. So that all mails would end up in the same file the with time mutt read the config file. And permanently re-reading the config file is ugly. I think if you \ the backticks, they will be evaluated when the variable is read, and not when the config is read. So, instead of: set record=`date +'%Y-%m-%d-%H:%M'` use something like: set record=\`date +'%Y-%m-%d-%H:%M'\` Untested. :) (darren) -- All is fear in love and war.
Re: Mail is not reaching destination
Quoting Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 23, 2002 16:39]: When I do: # date | sendmail -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] #(ispwest.com is another isp of mine) Here's what I get: (lines removed) Possibly two things wrong: 1. Is sendmail set up to allow messages to go to/from root? 2. I can't find an address for jerryvb.vei.net, although that might just be my setup. (darren) -- There is not enough love in the world to squander it on anything by human beings.
Re: defining a command - internal langauge
Quoting Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 22, 2002 06:20]: * Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-22 12:24:10 +1100]: Someone has already mentioned his startup file being: source shell-cmd | Wouldn't: macro foo :source shell-cmd| be general enough to go most algorithmic things without bloating mutt? The shell hcan hand of to whatever interpreter tickles your fancy. How can I get the current settings/status information into the script? For example, the value of editor, or the number of unread messages. Simple -- make shell-cmd write out a config file as a side effect, and, when it starts, it can read the current config file and use it as a base. (darren) -- There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. -- C.A.R. Hoare
Re: Replacing a message with its filtered output
Quoting Mike Schiraldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 21, 2002 17:17]:
#! /usr/bin/perl -W
while() { print; s/\r//g; chomp; last unless $_; }
while() { y/A-Za-z/N-ZA-Mn-za-m/; print; }
while () {
(1 .. /^$/) ? s/\r\n//g : y/A-Za-z/N-ZA-Mn-za-m/;
print;
}
:)
(darren)
--
All pleasures cost at least the time they take.
Re: Filtering a message from the index - procmail
Quoting David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 21, 2002 13:15]: * On 2002.03.20, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's only one thing I really miss: I'd like to be abled to define my own commands. Something like: define my-command-1 'mutt-command-1mutt-command-2enter' define my-command-2 'mutt-command-1my-command-1mutt-command-3enter' This is why my muttrc looks like this: source ~/.mutt/muttrc.sh| muttrc.sh is a small script to set up an m4 pipeline. I define a lot of things -- not just commands, but particular pattern sequences, conditional variables, and so on. Very cool; can you post this, or is it already available for perusal somewhere? I'd really like to see what you're doing... (darren) -- ...if we judge something by how badly it is misused, well, hell would be perl, right? -- dancer (http://www.advogato.org/person/dancer/)
Re: Can I save all thread collapsed?
Quoting Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 12, 2002 20:10]: How to save all messages of a thread? I do this quite often, to make special purpose, short-lived mailboxes apropos to a particular discussion. An easy (manual) way is to tag-thread and then do tag-prefix save to save all the tagged messages. In my setup that esc-t to for tag-thread, ; for tag-prefix, and s to save: \et;s=new-folder is the full command. (darren) -- Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature. -- Rich Kulawiec
Re: describing command sequences in email
Quoting Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 13, 2002 08:14]: * darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020313 13:07]: How to save all messages of a thread? An easy (manual) way is to tag-thread and then do tag-prefix save to save all the tagged messages. In my setup that esc-t to for tag-thread, ; for tag-prefix, and s to save: \et;s=new-folder is the full command. I suggest describing command sequences like this tag-threadtag-prefixsave-message =new-folder ESC t ; s =new-folder or like this: commandtype tag-thread ESC t tag-prefix ; save-message s =new-folder comments? Blah, blah, blah, whine, whine, whine. :) Just kidding. Point taken, personal reality duly adjusted. (darren) -- If your software doesn't recognize the limitations of your hardware, your software is useless.
Re: Can I save all thread collapsed?
Quoting David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 13, 2002 08:37]: Darren, et al -- ...and then darren chamberlain said... % % Quoting Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 12, 2002 20:10]: % How to save all messages of a thread? % % I do this quite often, to make special purpose, short-lived % mailboxes apropos to a particular discussion. Makes sense. Well, thanks. ;) % An easy (manual) way is to tag-thread and then do tag-prefix Will that work for a collapsed thread? I thought it wouldn't... Just because it's now unclear to me whether we're discussing collapsed threads or threads in general :-) Yes[*]. (darren) * Yes means it works on my system in my one unscientific and unreapeated test using my particular setup, which has nothing non-standard about how I'm handling threading or callapsing. -- Whether you can hear it or not the Universe is laughing behind your back.
Re: OT: Re: attribution and quotes
Quoting Rob Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 12, 2002 18:43]: Modified Julian Dates are completely numeric and therefore suitable for all Earthlings (not just astronomers) but unfortunately my /bin/date, from Red Hat's sh-utils-2.0-11 RPM, doesn't support them. It really should. Completely unrelated to the rest of this thread, but: $ rpm -qi sh-utils | head -2 | cut -c-30 Name: sh-utils Version : 2.0.11 $ /bin/date +%j 072 The sh-utils on my RH 7.2 box seems to support julian dates just fine. (darren) -- We are not who we think we are. We are not who others think we are. We are who we think others think we are. -- Anonymous
Re: building question
Quoting Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 10, 2002 18:05]: I am getting a new shell account where I am limited 50 megs of space. Even though I use my own patched version of mutt, they do have it installed. What I want to do is use the mutt binary from ~/bin, but use the rest of the stuff from the system directories. What is the best way to do this? I am thinking I guess about compile parameters, etc. Assuming that the system on which you are building has a decent libc and a libncurses, there should be many exteranl dependencies. On my boxen, I get: $ ldd /usr/local/bin/mutt libncurses.so.5 = /usr/local/lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x4001c000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4005e000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) and: $ ldd /usr/local/bin/mutt-1.3.22.1 libsocket.so.1 =/usr/lib/libsocket.so.1 libnsl.so.1 = /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1 libc.so.1 = /usr/lib/libc.so.1 libdl.so.1 =/usr/lib/libdl.so.1 libmp.so.2 =/usr/lib/libmp.so.2 /usr/platform/SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi-cEngine/lib/libc_psr.so.1 (Linux and Solaris, repsecitvely). It looks like all of the required files are from the system itself (other than mutt itself). So, build mutt with --prefix=/where/yor/isp/has/their/mutt/installed and just copy your resulting binary to ~/bin (don't run make install) so you can piggyback off their installed files. (darren) -- An error on your own is safer than ten truths accepted on faith, because the first leaves you the means to correct it, but the second destroys your capacity to distinguish truth from error. -- Ayn Rand
Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs
Quoting Lorin Winchester [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 11, 2002 11:39]: [-- snip --] So is this a case of users not knowing how to properly configure/use their MTAs, or is it a case of the list administrator not knowing how to properly setup the list? I posted this here since this list runs Mailman and I've heard no comments here about this. There also seems to be a good number of knowledgeable people here. I'd say that it's bad MUAs being mis-configured; you can only do so much about that. I've never seen/heard of this problem, and my first instinct is to chalk it up to user mis-education. Oh, BTW, if this list ran mailman, you'd see a bunch of mailman urls in the header, which I, at least, don't. (darren) -- Freedom is an all-or-nothing proposition: either we are completely free, or we are subjects of a tyrannical system. If we lose one freedom in a thousand, we become completely subjugated.
Re: Another Color to new Mail.
Quoting Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 11, 2002 12:58]: I'm with a little matter: I work with several folder to store mails in filtering of procmail... When I type c and ? I receive: 1 drwxr-sr-x 31 michel michel 2048 Mar 09 07:33 ../ 2 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Linux/ 3 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Feb 19 02:02 Musica/ 4 drwxrwsr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Noticias/ 5 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:42 Pessoal/ 6 drwxrwsr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Programacao/ 7 -rw-r--r-- 1 michel michel 2240 Mar 09 07:46 adiadas 8 -rw--- 1 michel michel 59865 Mar 09 06:05 enviadas 9 lrwxrwxrwx 1 michel michel 22 Feb 19 04:51 inbox@ 10-rw--- 1 michel michel 46191 Mar 09 08:42 lidas Well, I want 2 thing to be changed: 1) Programacao, Linux, Musica, Noticias and Pessoal are folders... Can I change the color of names (to detach when there are boxes with new mail)? Don't about colors here, sorry. But... 2) Can I filter de screen every time I enter in this screen (to remove name, group, permissions or add new labels)? Take a look at folder_format: 6.3.49. folder_format Type: string Default: %2C %t %N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f This variable allows you to customize the file browser display to your personal taste. This string is similar to $index_format, but has its own set of printf()-like sequences: %C current file number %d date/time folder was last modified %f filename %F file permissions %g group name (or numeric gid, if missing) %l number of hard links %N N if folder has new mail, blank otherwise %s size in bytes %t * if the file is tagged, blank otherwise %u owner name (or numeric uid, if missing) %X right justify the rest of the string and pad with character X %|X pad to the end of the line with character X It looks likes your is %C %F %l %u %g %s $d $f, give or take a few format sizes (do :set ?folder_format to see for sure). It sounds like you want to remove the %u, %g, and %F formats. (darren) -- Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal
Re: About the language for the mutt config tool
I'm going to reply to a bunch of messages all at once. I'm
attaching my first quick attempt at a configuration script; I've
called mutt-makeconfig, for lack of a better name. It's very
brute force, but it works. The config is very basic, enough to
get the bare minimum of personalized part of the process done
(ie, it sets realname, from, alternates, editor, folder,
mbox_type, print_command, and sendmail). It's written in perl,
uses only standard (5.00505+) modules, and runs reasonably fast.
The options it takes are --muttrc (where it should write the
file, default /tmp/muttrc-$USER) and --color (a useless option to
make it purty).
And, just so everyone knows, I'm not really attached to the
script, they way it does things, the language it's written in, or
the choice of colors on the screen, so spare no flames. :)
Quoting Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
regarding cvs space, i've never setup a cvs pserver before; i'm
assuming this will be the easiest way to offer anonymous CVS
access. i doubt it's that hard to setup though.
Anonymous CVS access is not enough, because the folks working on
it will need write access; that means user accounts. If we make
it a sourceforge project, then all the hard work is handled for
us, at least in that department.
Quoting Michael Maibaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
That is OK for read access, dubious for write access(which
should be by ssh probably), add a cvs module to the mutt.newbie
project at sourceforge?
This was my thought, either attach ourselves to the mutt-newbie
project or start a new project on sourceforge.
Quoting Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Take a language which you can expect to be present on minimal
systems. Otherwise you might end up in dependencies which are
no advantage for mutt. One of the advantages of console progs
is that they do not need hundreds of extra languages installed
to get them going.
Yes. Similarly:
Quoting John Buttery [EMAIL PROTECTED] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I agree with this logic; there's nothing that this shell script
needs to do that can't be done with a Bourne shell script.
That's the one interpreter you're always guaranteed to have.
I agree entirely. sh is the most likely candidate, if we are
going for it to run absolutely everywhere (I'd say awk would be
the second, followed by perl). The script I've written doesn't
too (too many) Perl-ish things and should be strightforward to
port to whatever languagewe decide to use, if that's what is
wanted.
(darren)
--
The Feynman Problem 1) Write down the problem.
Solving Algorithm 2) Think real hard.
3) Write down the answer.
#!/usr/bin/perl
# --
# $Id$
# --
# Inital version by darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# --
use strict;
use vars qw| $VERSION |;
use Sys::Hostname; # To determine the hostname
use Text::Wrap;
# --
# Set defaults and local (script-level) variables.
# --
$VERSION = sprintf %d.%02d, q$Revision: 1.1 $ =~ /(\d+)\.(\d+)/;
my $Muttrc = /tmp/muttrc-$ENV{USER};
my $help_only = undef;
# Normally, doing colors this way is kinda dumb; ANSI::Term and friends
# were designed to do this, but I wanted to ensure that no external
# modules were needed here. Besides, you have to explicitly ask for
# color, so by default nothing bad will happen.
my $color = undef;
my $red = ;
my $blue = ;
my $green = ;
my $norm = ;
# $ENV{COLUMNS} is some sh magic. COLUMNS is usually only defined when
# running under X, but we rely on it a little later, so we define
# it if it isn't already defined. Note that this does not propogate
# outwards to the parent process, so we're OK here.
$Text::Wrap::columns = $ENV{COLUMNS} ||= 80;
# --
# Get command line options, using the standard Getopt::Long module.
# --
use Getopt::Long;
GetOptions(
muttrc=s = \$Muttrc,
color! = \$color,
help!= \$help_only,
);
# Perhaps nocolor should be the default?
if (defined $color) {
$red = [1;31m;
$blue = [1;34m;
$green = [1;32m;
$norm = [0m;
}
my @config = ();# Lines that will become the config file
my %env = (); # Elements that will become the values
# ==
# main
# ==
populate_from_environment(\%env);
# --
# This is the banner, our short introduction to mutt
Re: About the language for the mutt config tool
Quoting Mike Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 08, 2002 11:51]: I think a major improvement would be to store the configuration file (sorry for the buzzword) metainfo seperately. *nod* Have a parsable file containg the options, possible values, and description. This will make adding new configuration directives much easier than writing (and reusing) code for each one. Opinions? I tried that, but there seemed to be too many variations for it to be done in a way that (a) didn't take more than a hour or two (I was doing this on the train home last night ;), (b) could be easily ported to another language if we decide to not use Perl, and (c) took all the possibilities into consideration (other than string-based, boolean, and quad-options, there's the issue of alternates, which takes 0 or more addresses and makes a regex -- too hard to do in a generic way, without making each directive be code that gets evaluated at run time, which is cake for Perl but starts to become Perl only very quickly... ;). I like the mon does things: a master script that calls other scripts, and expects the script to send its results to STDOUT. We could do this, make what I wrote a shell script that basically does: for file in config/*; do results=`$i` echo $results $new_muttrc done And the individual config modules can just pull everything from %ENV (or os.environ or getenv() or whatever is appropriate). ps: Coincidentily, I'm in the process of developing an ancillary tool for people trying to get GPG+mutt working fast and easy. Cool! Can it be integrated, and, if not, can you send me a URL? I keep procrastinating... (darren) -- The rebootings will continue until the configuration works.
Mutt configuration tool -- count me in!
Quoting Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 07, 2002 01:16]: i was thinking about this in the car tonight, and i realized that (AFAIK) there isn't a simple interactive command line program to help new users adjust to / configure mutt. Like many others have mentioned, I am also interested in this, not so much because I would use it myself, but because I've introduced many people to mutt, and without fail, I end up spending a several hours explaining hooks, and colors, and all the various configuration options. Plus, I would have liked something like this when I started using mutt; I had to piece my config together by reading hundreds of other configs from all over the Net (and a huge thanks to everyone who makes their configs publicly available, by the way!). I know a lot of perl (I'm a perl programmer by trade, in fact), and a good amount of bash, and would be willing to help where I could, but, like everyone else so far, I have limited time (perhaps 2-4 hours per week). I would be interested in helping out with the implementation, if there were others willing to help handle the design and scope out the goals we were trying to reach. Someone mentioned making the script able to read and use custom configuration modules, so that different people could maintain the parts for Pine compatibility and the like; I think this is a wonderful idea. The easiest thing that I can think of would be to make this a part of the mutt-newbie project on sourceforge; I am a registered Sf user (see my email address), and would be willing to attach myself to this project. Also, someone mentioned earlier in the thread that they could provide CVS space and mailing list support. In other words, count me in. (darren) -- The rebootings will continue until the configuration works.
Re: Mutt configuration tool -- count me in!
Quoting Steve Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 07, 2002 10:16]: On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:05:08AM -0500, darren chamberlain wrote: myself to this project. Also, someone mentioned earlier in the thread that they could provide CVS space and mailing list support. In other words, count me in. Hosting another mutt list wouldn't be a problem here either. I'm just as interested in CVS space as a list, especially if we are going to be breaking development out into separate pieces. Speaking of another list, though, I think this thread is starting to warrant one... (darren) -- Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it.
Re: Mutt configuration tool - does it have to be perl?
Quoting cruciatuz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 07, 2002 10:51]: i like python(.org) and i think it would be a good choice for this tool, because team-development would be easier (just my opinion, i don't want to start a silly language war). I like python too, it's a good language. I brought up perl because (a) someone else did first, (b) on all non-Linux Unix-types, there is a higher probability that perl is installed than python, and (c) it's what I know best, and I was offering to help implement it. None of those are language-war starters, I think. ;) does it have to be written in the perl language? Of course not, but that's an implementation detail, to be decided once we've actually spec'ed out what we want to accomplish. ;) (darren) -- All men are mortal. Socrates was mortal. Therefore, all men are Socrates. -- Woody Allen
Re: Mutt configuration tool
Quoting Steve Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 07, 2002 12:49]: On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 08:55:08AM -0800, Carl B. Constantine wrote: Well, if we're not reinventing the wheel, why not just ask the guy if we can have a copy of his whole HTML and just include it with the mutt distribution? I'm sure it's not very big on disk. Then just include instructions on how to navigate to the first page of it with a browser. Actually, the mutt configuration web site is written in PHP3 with a PostgreSQL backend. You might ask him for the code. I did and he was willing to give it to me (I'm evaluating it as an idea for a completely unrelated project). Maybe host it on www.mutt.org ? You got me curious, so: $ HEAD www.mutt.org 200 OK Connection: close Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 18:06:57 GMT Accept-Ranges: bytes Server: Apache/1.2.1 Content-Length: 9975 Content-Type: text/html ETag: 9fb5b-26f7-3c4e728a Last-Modified: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 08:21:30 GMT Client-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 18:07:46 GMT Client-Peer: 194.70.126.33:80 Tell me this isn't accurate! Is www.mutt.org really running Apache 1.2.1? (BTW, no PHP there...) (darren) -- Maybe that's the only truth in the world. Not the Bibles or poetry or philosophy but just the old jokes. -- Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson
Re: Is mutt really handicapped?
Quoting Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 07, 2002 16:30]: On 07/03/02 MuttER did speaketh: Goodness... Open several xterm windows with mutt and look at all the different msgs you wish. I just tried xterm -e mutt, and I get a no such file or directory error. Any idea what that is? I'd like to put opening mutt in an xterm on an IceWM keybinding. Try xterm -e /path/to/mutt (darren) -- My one regret in life is that I am not someone else. -- Woody Allen
Re: Viewing only mailboxes with 'N'
Quoting David Collantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 06, 2002 09:52]: I have a very long list of mailboxes. When I get into the mailbox list, I can see at the top I have 3 mailboxes with new messages, but I have to scroll down looking for those 3 one's. If there a way to mask and show only the mailboxes with new messages in it? My (imperfect) solution is to reverse sort by modification time (Oz in the file browser). Since I keep mutt open all day, and change mailboxes pretty often, it offers a simple way to sort folders. All the ones with new mail (usually) end up on or near the top. (darren) -- It is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead. -- E. W. Dijkstra
Re: Pity that mutt doesn't read news - what's the best match?
Quoting Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Feb 28, 2002 10:48]: Andre Berger wrote: Are there key bindings for slrn around that make it use the same keys as mutt? i asked this very question on the mutt newsgroup, and didn't get any responses. however i think it would be great if someone came up with this and posted their .slrnrc for us. anyone anyone?? It would be great to have this in contrib/ as well. I'd do it, but I don't use slrn. (darren) -- Beware all enterprises that require new clothes. -- Henry David Thoreau
Re: mutt paints over background image
Quoting Dominik Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27 Feb-02 08:22]: I have been using mutt in an rxvt window with a background xpm for a long time, using the version from the SuSE distribution withouth compilling myself. Since SuSE 7.2 however, rxvt covers the background image with a black character background itself. I guess this has something to do with slang vs. ncurses. The older versions were using ncurses and the new ones are compiles with slang. Are you defining colors? If so, are you using a background color of black, rather than default? (darren) -- It's not that things are getting worse, it's just that news reporting is getting better.
Re: Pretty print filters
Quoting Thomas Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [26 Feb-02 02:10]: I had never noticed that before. The command enscript --help-pretty-print lists about twenty other file types that can be prettified. Great stuff. Tom: Try printing to a color printer too; it works very well. (darren) -- So far as a man thinks, he is free.
Re: Pretty print filters
Quoting Thomas Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [25 Feb-02 14:50]: On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Marco Fioretti wrote: 3) Don;t you have enscript on your solaris box? It might work. Yes, but I don't believe it has any special functions for filtering and formatting email headers. Enscript does; pass the -Email (that's a -E followed by 'mail'). (darren) -- We are not who we think we are. We are not who others think we are. We are who we think others think we are. -- Anonymous
Re: Change the date format on index
Quoting David Collantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [25 Feb-02 15:20]:
I would like to change my index to look instead of:
L 66 Feb 22 To mutt-users@mutt. ( 0.2K) The Subject goes here...
to:
L 66 Feb 22 2002 To mutt-users@mutt. ( 0.2K) The Subject goes here...
I read the %d uses the $date_format, but the actual date_format
does not matches the existing index_format (it should be
showing the year and it does not). Help, anyone?
What does your index_format look like? Have you seen this part
of the index_format description:
%{fmt}
the date and time of the message is converted to sender's time
zone, and ``fmt'' is expanded by the library function
``strftime''; a leading bang disables locales
%[fmt]
the date and time of the message is converted to the local time
zone, and ``fmt'' is expanded by the library function
``strftime''; a leading bang disables locales
%(fmt)
the local date and time when the message was received. ``fmt''
is expanded by the library function ``strftime''; a leading bang
disables locales
%fmt
the current local time. ``fmt'' is expanded by the library
function ``strftime''; a leading bang disables locales.
So, use something like:
%{%b %e %Y}
in that spot, and that should do it.
(darren)
--
Language is not neutral. It is not merely a vehicle which carries ideas.
It is itself a shaper of ideas.
-- Dale Spender
Re: strange behaviour mutt 1.3.27
Quoting Stephan van Beerschoten [EMAIL PROTECTED] [22 Feb-02 05:59]: I recently installed a completely new machine (FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE) that replaced an older one. I also installed Mutt. But now, mutt keeps telling me that there is new mail in =System, which is one of my procmail-sorted mailboxes, when there is no new mail. And after I opened =System, mutt tells me there is new mail in /var/mail/stephanb, which was the mailbox I just left. Not surprisingly, as I switch back to my /var/mail/stephanb folder, there is no new mail. This is rather irritating. Has anyone else experienced this kind of behaviour ? What can I do to get ridd of it ? Is your time correctly synchronized? Are you using NFS, and if so, is the time on that box synchronized correctly? Leaving a folder writes the contents, naturally, so if the time on the machine doing the writing is different from the time on the machine doing the stat (where mutt is running), you'll get false positives for new mail. (darren) -- This is the crucial difference between fiction and real life: fiction must be plausible; real life has no such constraint. -- Kevin Kelly
