Re: [MLO] Reminder: filtering a view in the Android app affects the widget, too

[Lisa Stroyan]

Good to know! I wouldn't have expected that otherwise.
On Jan 4, 2016 1:22 AM, "Charles Blaquière" 
wrote:

> Android users: you may be puzzled if you forget that if you apply a filter
> to a view (e.g. "Active Actions") in the app, that same filter will affect
> that view in the widget.
>
> This happened to me as I was playing with the new MLO2 for Android. I had
> recreated the widget and set it to display the *Active Actions* view. A
> few days later, I was puzzled to find the widget displaying "No items in
> view" instead. (There were tons of active actions in my MLO profile.) I
> discovered that earlier in the week, in the app, I had filtered *Active
> Actions* using a string that didn't exist in my profile. That filter had
> also affected the *Active actions* view displayed in the widget. Once I
> removed the filter in the app, both the app and the widget resumed
> displaying all *Active actions*.
>
> So keep that in mind: the widget displays the app's *current *result set
> from the selected view.
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Re: [MLO] Re: Unwanted Duplicate Tasks, linked togther

[Lisa Stroyan]

If you double click to see the task in outline view on Windows does it go
to the same task in the tree? If you look at properties, task details, are
they the same creation date? If so, it's likely they are the same task and
the view is set up to show that task twice. For example a task with
multiple contexts will show up multiple times in tasks by context, it's not
a duplicate, it just meets the criteria for the filter in both cases.
On Jan 3, 2016 5:43 AM, "Philip Lanz"  wrote:

>
>
> On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 2:10:53 PM UTC-5, MCA wrote:
>>
>> Me neither. The only assumption that I can make: check your view whether
>>> you have Hierarchy:YES and under "config", the "include child items"
>>> enabled AND the "continue searching in branch after main filter match".
>>>
>> This might be the only "functionality" that could lead to those
>> "duplicated / linked" tasks that you are talking about.
>>
>
> Well, I do have Hierarchy = Yes and to include child items, however not
> continue searching in branch after main match
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Re: [MLO] Copy tool does not work while editing the caption of a task on the task list.

[Lisa Stroyan]

Strange, it still works fine for me so must be platform dependant.I'm on a
nexus 5.
On Jan 2, 2016 7:22 PM, "Dwight Arthur"  wrote:

> ok, George is a nicer name than Zoho, maybe.
>
> Anyhow, I verified that after the cut&paste toolbar appears over the
> in-place caption editor, any tapping of the tool icons will cause the
> toolbar to disappear without any of the toolbar functionality being
> processed. Specifically:
> 1. went to Evernore and copied this string: "prior text"
> 2. Went to MLO and created a new task with this caption: "new text"
> 3. without exiting the inplace editor, longtapped the word "new". It
> became selected/highlighted and the cut&paste toolbar appeared.
> 4. tapped the copy icon in the toolbar. toolbar vanished. Back to evernote
> and pasted: result was "prior text" - conclusion., nothing was copied
> 5. back to MLO. doubletapped the text to open inplace editor. Longtapped
> the word "new" to select & highlight it and open the cut&paste toolbar.
> 6. tapped the cut icon in the toolbar. toolbar vanished. Back to evernote
> and pasted: result was "prior text" - conclusion., nothing was copied. back
> to MLO, the word "new is still there. conclusion, nothing was cut.
> 7. doubletapped the text to open inplace editor. Longtapped the word "new"
> to select & highlight it and open the cut&paste toolbar.
> 8. tapped the paste icon. toolbar vanished but nothing was pasted.
> 9. doubletapped the text to open inplace editor. Longtapped the word "new"
> to select & highlight it and open the cut&paste toolbar.
> 10. tapped the select-all icon. Nothing was selected.
>
> Repeated all of these tasks on the caption in the edit-task page. "copy"
> copied, "cut" cut, "paste" pasted and "select all" selected all.
> conclusion: the cut&paste toolbar works, but when it is invoked by
> selecting text in the in-place editor it is limited to a single function
> which is vanishing when tapped.
>
>
> -Dwight
> MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2
> On 1/2/2016 1:07 AM, george wrote:
>
> It is the same Android (4.4.2 kitkat) version. Same phone. Note 3
>
> After I saw the initial posts tried it on my phone and replicated the
> issue hence my first post in the thread. After posting I tried the " tried
> copy/paste on a different field. long press existing task >tapped 3 dots>
> copy text in Title field>pasted it in inbox  for a  new task. It worked so
> copy/paste worked in that instance.. Then I went back to the task caption
> and tried copy/paste operation and it worked.  I tried multiple times with
> different task captions.
>
> But I still think there is some problem with copy/paste based on what I
> just experienced. MLO Clipboard does not seem to be clearing at the moment.
> I tried few different copy/paste of task captions but I am getting one of
> the first caption I copied every time I try to copy/ paste. I even
> restarted the phone hoping it will clear the clipboard but it still has
> that one old caption/text string in the memory. Any where in MLO I try to
> paste still the same caption/text string is getting pasted.
>
> This seem to be an MLO issue in this instance from what I can see because
> I opened a text editor (jota) typed some text, copy/pasted within Jota and
> it is working (no text from MLO is showing up). It is getting complicated
> to test..
>
> I am on V2 version 2.016
>
> (Changed name to George like from Seinfeld). Serenity now.
>
>
>
> On Friday, January 1, 2016 at 6:41:59 PM UTC-8, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>
>> I thought that i understood this well enough to document it in Jira for
>> the developers but now i am confysed again.
>>
>> Yes, I am on Lollipop  5.1.1
>>
>> I get the screen with the copy tools which vanish when i try to use one
>> of the tools. After the tools vanish,  the text i tried to copy is not
>> available in the copy buffer.
>>
>> In this most recent post, zoho (may i call you zoho?) Is apparently
>> saying that the copy does work on kitkat therefore showing that the problem
>> does not happen on that Android version, do i have that correctly? In a
>> previous post Zoho confirmed the bug. Was that under some other Android
>> version?
>> -Dwight
>> MLO Betazoid on Android SGN4
>>
>> On Jan 1, 2016, foru...@zoho.com wrote:
>>>
>>> It is interesting. I am on kitkat 4.4.2 I tried copy/paste on a
>>> different field. long press existing task >tapped 3 dots> copy text in
>>> Title field>pasted it in inbox as for a  new task. It worked.
>>>
>>> Now when I try to copy the caption of a task it works. It worked outside
>>> of inbox (in a different view) too replicating screenshot posted by Dwight
>>> A except for the copy handles. I guess Sir Dwight is running Lollipop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 1, 2016 at 12:37:33 PM UTC-8, foru...@zoho.com
>>> wrote:

 Tried copy/paste. Looks like I am getting same issue. Once I hit copy
 icon, tools are gone and when I tried to paste the copied text nothing gets
 pasted.

 On Friday, January 

Re: [MLO] MLO2, Add To Inbox text size

[Lisa Stroyan]

I'm thinking it's there because the default "Add" button in a task list no
longer goes into the inbox but instead puts it next to the task you have
selected, which I find confusing.

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Wol Gilbraith  wrote:

> In MLO2, the bottom of the menu screen includes a grey 'Add to Inbox'
> button.
> This leads to a task creation screen, where the new task is created in a
> smaller font than is used anywhere else in the app.
> This smaller font makes it easy to create tasks full of typos,
> particularly if using this 'on the move'.
> Does anyone know of a good reason why the text size here is smaller than
> usual?
> Does this Add To Inbox screen do anything that you don't get by being in
> the Inbox and tapping '+' to add a new task?
>
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Re: [MLO] Copy tool does not work while editing the caption of a task on the task list.

[Lisa Stroyan]

Have you tried pasting text that won't paste  into MLO into other apps?
On Jan 1, 2016 11:25 PM, "george"  wrote:

> Apparently still has the problem (same as R Penzo)
>
> Here is what I just did. 1) Cleared the clipboard. 2)double tapped task to
> activate cursor on a task caption 3)long pressed and selected text within
> copy handles 4)tapped copy button 5)hit the plus sign for new task 6)long
> pressed to invoke paste
> button/action. Paste did not show up. Nothing to paste.
>
> Kitkat 4.4.2 . MLO  v2, 2.0.16
>
> (Name updated to George like from Seinfeld) Serenity now.
>
> On Friday, January 1, 2016 at 6:41:59 PM UTC-8, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>
>> I thought that i understood this well enough to document it in Jira for
>> the developers but now i am confysed again.
>>
>> Yes, I am on Lollipop  5.1.1
>>
>> I get the screen with the copy tools which vanish when i try to use one
>> of the tools. After the tools vanish,  the text i tried to copy is not
>> available in the copy buffer.
>>
>> In this most recent post, zoho (may i call you zoho?) Is apparently
>> saying that the copy does work on kitkat therefore showing that the problem
>> does not happen on that Android version, do i have that correctly? In a
>> previous post Zoho confirmed the bug. Was that under some other Android
>> version?
>> -Dwight
>> MLO Betazoid on Android SGN4
>>
>> On Jan 1, 2016, foru...@zoho.com wrote:
>>>
>>> It is interesting. I am on kitkat 4.4.2 I tried copy/paste on a
>>> different field. long press existing task >tapped 3 dots> copy text in
>>> Title field>pasted it in inbox as for a  new task. It worked.
>>>
>>> Now when I try to copy the caption of a task it works. It worked outside
>>> of inbox (in a different view) too replicating screenshot posted by Dwight
>>> A except for the copy handles. I guess Sir Dwight is running Lollipop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 1, 2016 at 12:37:33 PM UTC-8, foru...@zoho.com wrote:

 Tried copy/paste. Looks like I am getting same issue. Once I hit copy
 icon, tools are gone and when I tried to paste the copied text nothing gets
 pasted.

 On Friday, January 1, 2016 at 10:35:27 AM UTC-8, Roberto Penzo wrote:
>
> Tank you Lisa. I checked again the tools and for me they do not work.
> As soon as I press one of these tools, the editing mode immediately exits.
> When I try to paste the text, no text is pasted (actually the text of the
> last Android copt operation is passed).

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Re: [MLO] MLO2, in Starred view, tasks change position when edited

[Lisa Stroyan]

Yes. Good catch. I don't see the position change immediately but as soon as
I look again it's wrong. Happens in active starred view too.
On Jan 1, 2016 1:34 PM, "Wol Gilbraith"  wrote:

> MLO2, I'm finding that, in Starred view, when I double-tap a task to edit
> it, and then go Back to save it, it saves in one place lower in the list
> than it was when I opened it. I then have to go to the Move screen to shunt
> it one place back up the list. Is this a bug?
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Re: [MLO] MLO2, - in Starred View, new Tasks aren't always added to the Inbox

[Lisa Stroyan]

Argh!! You're right. All the tasks I've added are in random places because
I was putting them into my daily task list in the right order. This is a
huge change.

Lisa
On Jan 1, 2016 1:30 PM, "Wol Gilbraith"  wrote:

> MLO Blog page at
> http://blog.mylifeorganized.net/2015/12/mylifeorganized-2-for-android-tips.html
> includes:
>
>
>
> Here are more quick tips and tricks. We prepared this list basing on
> users' questions that our support service received:
>
> Unlike MLO 1, you can enter multiple tasks very quickly. Click "+", enter
> the task title, do not hide the keyboard and click Done on keyboard. The
> new task is inserted below automatically. Enter the title for the new task,
> click Done and so on. If adding the tasks is complete, just click Done
> while the task title is empty and the keyboard will disappear. It is quick
> and easy!
>
>
> If you are familiar with MLO 1, you might think all new tasks go into the
> Inbox, for future processing (position in Outline, add dates, contexts
> etc), but No. If you are in Starred View, and you have a task selected
> (turned green), and you add a new task this way, your new task will *n*ot**
> go into the Inbox, it will go in the Outline underneath the
> previously-selected task.
>
>
> This behaviour is a significant change from MLO 1. I've lost sight of
> several new tasks in this way
>
>
> I wonder if there are any plans to revert this, so all new tasks go into
> the Inbox
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Re: [MLO] Copy tool does not work while editing the caption of a task on the task list.

[Lisa Stroyan]

Copy function works fine for me on latest beta.
On Jan 1, 2016 9:36 AM, "Roberto Penzo"  wrote:

> Yes, that'all right and I too got it. I did'n explain too well...
> The tool appear but they do not get any copy function. When I try to paste
> text copied by using them, I get no text to paste. Sorry for my poor
> explanation.
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Re: [MLO] Unwanted Duplicate Tasks, linked togther

[Lisa Stroyan]

Been using both for many years and can't remember seeing this. Can you
create a version of the database you are willing to send to support? Do you
have an old database from many years ago perhaps?
On Dec 30, 2015 9:27 PM, "Philip Lanz"  wrote:

> Hello
>
> I occasionally get duplicate tasks, folders, projects etc.  The
> duplication can occur on any level.  I'm not sure how this duplication
> happens, but I can't delete the duplicates without deleting the original.
> Somehow they are linked together.  It seems that maybe an indexing error
> can occur in the database, but I see no database repair functions to
> correct the situation.
>
> Has this happened to anyone else?
>
> I use both the desktop version and MLO Android 2, however I remember this
> happening prior to the new release.
>
> Thanks for any help
>
> Phil Lanz
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Re: [MLO] android version: how do I turn off completed tasks in the inbox?

[Lisa Stroyan]

The strange icon in the lower left that looks like an eye. Took me a while
to figure it out.
On Dec 29, 2015 1:37 AM, "Tommy Benton"  wrote:

> I figured out how to turn off completed tasks in the views, but how do I
> do it for the inbox?
> thanks
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Re: [MLO] mlo android - what does the little cross arrows in the upper right do?

[Lisa Stroyan]

That's the symbol for move mode and the lines allow you to drag and drop
tasks to other parts of either an outline or task list that is manually
sorted. If used in active by context it seems to replace

What I can't find are the indent/outdent options that we used to have...Are
they gone?
On Dec 29, 2015 1:37 AM, "Tommy Benton"  wrote:

> Hello-
> In the new android there's some crossed arrows in the upper right hand
> corner.  Clicking this flips between the stared view and, a bunch of
> meaningless horizontal lines.  What are those lines for?
> Are there some detailed instructions for this new android view that would
> explain this?
> -tommy
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Re: [MLO] Is it worth android version2?

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I'm finding the v2 version to be a lot more intuitive once I got used to
it. It felt strange at first, though.

Value is subjective..I use MLO more than most apps and programs on my
various devices so I do think of it more as a package. I pay around $100 to
upgrade Photoshop elements every couple years, same for Dragon naturally
speaking. Last pass is $12 year (had to go to premium to get mobile
access).
On Dec 24, 2015 12:37 PM, "valor"  wrote:

> I am android mlo 1 registered user and really hoped to be updated. Finally
> it was released and I tried. Yes calendar view and some other fuctions
> added that were priorly only possible in desktop version. Cool! However I
> feel laggy than the version1 and more complecated. I don't hate complecate
> but just in some way the version1 ui and interface were easy to use and
> simple. I know  App performense could be upgraded from next updates.
> However I don't feel like to paying 15 dollars for version2 now. Cause some
> laggy and uncomfortable to use. Ao I just back to mlo1.
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Re: [MLO] What happens to Cloud profile data if I discontinue my cloud subscription?

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You should be able to log into the web interface for the cloud, and delete
your data files. You might be able to do it via the desktop as well under
synchronization options. https://sync.mylifeorganized.net/mlo/

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Saumil Vyas  wrote:

> I am using MLO with Cloud subscription for about 3 to 4 years. I have a
> few days left. I have decided not to continue with cloud subscription. I
> want to know what will happen to my data on the cloud?
>
> MLO2 on Android 6.
>
> TIA
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Re: [MLO] Add tasks to inbox with voice recognition on IOS iPhone or iPad.

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On Android I use a replacement keyboard with good voice recognition, and
that option should be available on iOS too, though it does take more
keystrokes to initiate.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 4:39 PM, devan  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm currently an enthusiastic MLO user from the Android world.  In
> Android, I have an icon to quickly record my voice and then add that task
> to my inbox as a text entry.  Is there a similar function for IOS devices?
> I've checked the videos and the forum without much success.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [MLO] Today view

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I too would like to have customizability of the Today view in MLO Android 2
to include overdue tasks. I think the Today view is hardcoded rather than a
standard MLO view so the above fix doesn't apply. I do like the combination
of tasks and events though.

(I also can't find "skip occurrences" which I used to use daily to catch up
overdue daily tasks, does it exist?).

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 3:10 AM, Nick Clark  wrote:

> I use a custom view that shows all Active items with a Due Date of Today-7
> or later, plus anything in the Inbox plus any Starred items. I group it by
> Due Date.
> This or a variant should achieve what you need.
>
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Re: [MLO] Re: Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

[Lisa Stroyan]

What is the solution you ended up with on Android? Manually ordered list?
Do you pull from across the task tree or are you working in the outline?
Just curious!

Lisa

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Laurence Glazier <
laurence.glaz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have made that mistake once, but not this time. Only one Inbox!
>
> I have decided to look at the manual sync issues positively. I'll limit my
> use of Mark Forster's systems to the Android, and view that as a bonus
> facility which comes with the Android platform. I always have my phone with
> me and the Windows version is very useful for inboxing and multiple-select
> operations.
>
> That way I can enjoy all the benefits and look-and-feel of the Android app
> without trying to manipulate it with extra contexts/stars/sorting tricks!
> Thanks so much for all your time and suggestions. :))
>
> Laurence
>
>
> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 10:22:55 PM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
>> Is there any chance that you have more than one inbox?
>> -Dwight
>> MLO Betazoid on Android SGN4
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2015, Laurence Glazier  wrote:
>>
>>> Update - I found that if I set the context for Inbox on the Android
>>> device, new items added inherit it.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 2:23:07 PM UTC, Laurence Glazier wrote:

 That's strange, Dwight, I am using the same handset, a Note 4. I will
 look at this more closely and see if I can fix it before contacting 
 support.

 On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 5:15:31 AM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
> Laurence, on my Samsung Note 4 running Android 5.1.1 and MLO 2.0.14
> new tasks added to the inbox inherit the context of the inbox folder. I
> have tried adjusting settings that seem as though they might have an 
> impact
> but no matter what i do the inheritance continues to occur. I have no idea
> why it is not happening for you and I would suggest that you write to
> sup...@mylifeorganized.net
> -Dwight
> MLO Betazoid on Android SGN4
>
> On Dec 19, 2015, Laurence Glazier  wrote:
>>
>> A quick update. Using contexts seems to work quite well. One problem
>> you may be able to advise on. I ascribed the context "New none" to the
>> Inbox, and all tasks I inbox in Windows automatically get this context, 
>> but
>> on Android, whether I use the widget or the app to inbox intems, the
>> context is not set, so I have to do it by editing. Is there an Android
>> setting to make this automatic?
>>
>> I have just made a query about these issues on Mark Forster's website
>> at
>>
>>
>> http://markforster.squarespace.com/blog/2015/5/21/the-final-version-perfected-fvp.html?postSubmitted=true¤tPage=3#comments
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 19, 2015 at 4:23:28 PM UTC, Laurence Glazier
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Dwight I might choose the path of outline based views. For
>>> the moment I have been tweaking the importance slider but I can see this
>>> may get harder as time goes on!
>>>
>>> I tried a different approach today, by using the Active by Context
>>> view. To move a task to the bottom of the list, I would set a context 
>>> based
>>> on a date stamp, e.g. 151219/1 etc, which effectively puts it to the 
>>> bottom
>>> of the list. In time, as these contexts become emptied, they would be
>>> deleted. However the synchronisation from Windows to Android did not 
>>> work
>>> well. Tasks without contexts did not always show on the Android, but
>>> sometimes did. By creating a new context and putting all items without a
>>> context into it (called "New None") seemed to fix it. I may persevere 
>>> with
>>> this idea for a while.
>>>
>>> I need to understand this aspect of MLO better. Even if it does not
>>> solve the immediate issue it is bound to help me in the future :)
>>>
>>> I might pose these questions, with a link to this thread, on a
>>> similar forum on Mark Forster's website which I think may have a number 
>>> of
>>> MLO users.
>>>
>>> Laurence
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 3:40:20 AM UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote:

 You mention an important point. In a to-do list view, the included
 tasks are shown in a flat list either ordered according to a defined 
 set of
 sort rules or else ordered according to a manual sort.

 Outline views in contrast show the included tasks in a hierarchical
 list. Most of the time, the entire view is ordered according to the 
 order
 the tasks are in within the underlying profile. If you specify a sort 
 rule
 in a hierarchical view, it will be used to sort the top level items; 
 tasks
 in the branch below each top level item are unsorted, that is they are 
 in
 the order of the underlying profile outlin

Re: [MLO] Thoughts on using MLO with Mark Forster's systems

[Lisa Stroyan]

Ah, gotcha. I've been only working out of active starred on Android as far
as manually sorted views.  So importing a manually sorted view doesn't sync
sort order?, that's too bad. (And I don't think alt complete is on Android
anyway).
On Dec 20, 2015 7:21 AM, "Laurence Glazier" 
wrote:

> Thanks Lisa, I knew about this, it was encouraging to find it out. But the
> sort order is lost on sync to the Android, unless we use Starred view. I
> think it was intended for use in single outline branches, where order gets
> synced, but if we combine multiple branches and view as active actions, it
> is getting more complex.
>
> But yes very useful in Windows in the Outline view!
>
> Laurence
>
> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 2:34:55 AM UTC, Lisa S wrote:
>>
>> In case no-one has mentioned it, I believe the "Alternative Complete" was
>> added to support moving a task to the bottom of a manually sorted list for
>> this method. (I don't use it and haven't read all the discussion but wanted
>> to make sure you knew about it).
>>
>> Lisa /  lstr...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> __
>> Sent from eM Client | www.emclient.com 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/15/2015 3:30:28 AM, "Laurence Glazier" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Can someone advise on the best way to achieve using Mark Forster's
>> methods in MLO? This usually involves moving a task to the bottom of a
>> list. To achieve this I am using the Active Starred view. This is because
>> manual orders in other views generally do not sync in the new Android
>> version. (Are there plans to change this?)
>>
>> I am operating more flexibly than Mark Forster described, creating Active
>> Actions lists only of areas relevant at a particular time; the other areas
>> get hidden. Generally I am seeing tasks from 2, 3 or 4 visible
>> sub-branches. At root level I have a "Hidden" branch where I put the
>> irrelevant sub-branches (e.g. "Home" while I am at work), and an "In
>> Progress" visible branch where I have relevant and priority sub-branches. I
>> move the main sub-branches back and forth between these primary ones during
>> the day to generate relevant active task lists.
>>
>> While my approach technically works, there are overheads. Because only
>> the Active Starred view syncs active actions with a manual order, I have to
>> ensure every active action is starred, which means I can no longer use the
>> star for the purpose intended. In the FVP system (Final Version Perfected)
>> a chain of tasks is established. Without access to the stars, I tried
>> showing the tasks in bold face (Ctrl-B) but that works only in Windows and
>> does not transfer to the Android. The best I have found so far is to
>> identify the chain of tasks visually by setting them to be projects (they
>> then show in blue on the desktop, and are underlined in blue on the phone).
>> But this is another overhead in terms of keystrokes, and undermines the use
>> of projects as projects. A similar way it make the tasks overdue, but that
>> has similar issues.
>>
>> Is there some way I should be using flags and contexts to achieve my
>> approach with lower or no overhead? Is there some clever technique with
>> views I should know (bearing in mind they need to have manual sort to that
>> tasks can be moved to the bottom)? Should I consider abandoning the Windows
>> version for serious work and instead treat it as a resource for occasional
>> manipulation of tasks in bulk (with the multiple selection facility)?
>>
>> Thanks for reading to the end!
>>
>> Laurence
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Re: [MLO] Re: Someday, maybe: A very, very simple Apple Watch app?

[Lisa Stroyan]

This may be the first time I I can remember been wistful about iOS/apple
etc, unless you count when the people I was babysitting for in high school
got the first version of the Mac with it's pretty GUI and I was stuck with
a word-processor or writing Basic programs on a text-only green-and-black
something or other possibly with "64" in it's name. Unfortunately I didn't
make googly eyes at the baby enough, with that shiny computer available
while she slept, so they stopped calling me, and my destiny began to become
clear...

But the watch would be too big for me anyway, I suppose. I want a flip-up
screen option to double the space. (Though until now I could say, at least
it doesn't run MLO). LOL.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:16 AM, Nick S  wrote:

> Just received the newsletter. It is full of great news and there is to be
> an Apple Watch app! Great work Andrey. Happy to be a beta tester too.
> Looking forward to the new desktop as well.
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Re: [MLO] A few (beginner) questions...

[Lisa Stroyan]

Here's an old process I wrote up that might help explain some of the
workflow possibilities. Ignore if it adds confusion :)
http://stroyan.net/lisasblog/2012/mylifeorganized/

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> Pinning an All Tasks workspace to the leftmost tab position is definitely
> helpful.
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[MLO] MLO combined with paper/BulletJournal?

[Lisa Stroyan]

Odd question from someone you may have thought disappeared (I'll try to
write an update soon).

Has anyone ever come up with an effective combination of MLO and a paper
notebook system (or freeform electronic journal) such as BulletJournal /
DashPlus / Etc?  (http://bulletjournal.com/get-started/)

I've been very ill this year, incapacitated at times...but doing much
better now (and back home! :). MLO fell by the wayside for new tasks and
projects though I used it for daily routines and such. In the meantime I
used a BulletJournal for capture as it was something my brain could handle
(That sounds so sad, if you know me, but it wasn't as bad as all that. And
hey, I have tons of raw book material written in longhand :).

I didn't use the BJ calendar since I do all that electronically. But I like
paper for capturing tasks, notes, I also began taking graphical notes (
http://images.lmgtfy.com/?q=graphical+notes) which seems to cement the
information better in my brain.

But of course paper/free-form is not a good repository for access
long-term.  Anyway, I like both, each have their strengths, and I've been
pondering concocting and writing up some kind of method that integrates
them both (And Evernote for non-tasks), but my brain hasn't quite put these
ideas into a coherent picture yet. I'd love any thoughts you have.

(Looking forward to re-engaging with MLO soon!).

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Re: [MLO] Copy a View and Change Problems?

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Workspaces, i.e. tabs, can hold changes to a view that are not saved.
Perhaps you are changing the workspace's copy of the view. There should be
a way to revert to the saved copy of the view - in the left hand view
selection list right click menu, perhaps?
On Aug 3, 2015 4:30 AM, "TotheMoonAlice"  wrote:

> It seems whenever I copy a view and then edit the copy, it changes the
> original view somehow.
>
> I wouldn't normally think this would happened, so I sped through,
> uncarefully adjusting my copy thinking I could always return to the
> original, but this was also screwed up somehow.
>
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Re: [MLO] Interesting article - "The Most Productive People Have One Thing In Common: They Do Nothing"

[Lisa Stroyan]

I just heard about that book from someone else! It sounded like a nice spin
on it.
On Aug 4, 2015 6:10 PM, "Stephen Jones" 
wrote:

> Lisa,
>
> From what you have said, one book you might find useful is Essentialism by
> Greg McKeown. The approach it sets out is one that would seem to address
> some of the issues you have raised. I do not fully subscribe to everything
> in the book, but it has helped me to develop an approach to productivity
> that suits me and has taken the stress out of not getting everything done
> or even spending some time "doing nothing". I am actually achieving more by
> doing less.
>
> Regards
>
> Stephen J
>
>
> On Tuesday, 4 August 2015 23:50:37 UTC+10, Lisa S wrote:
>>
>> Just wanted to chime in on this thread . I think this article title is
>> misleading as to what the article discusses ( in the opposite way from your
>> point, John , but both are true). I don't see having to clear all the tasks
>> in your head out as necessary for the mindful practices that have been
>> shown to help health and productivity, and I was expecting a different kind
>> of "do-nothing" than they describe, more along the lines of time resetting
>> the nervous system out of the constant stress, fight or flight mode that
>> task management tends to pull me into .
>>
>> I am very intrigued by the concept the title itself implies. I do think
>> that such activities – relaxing in nature, meditation, exercise, morning
>> pages journaling, a discipline like the one I do, Tai Chi Chih – for me are
>> having a profound effect on my relationship with my task list and all of
>> the shoulds. An amazing amount of effort goes into anxiety in our
>> culture... staggering, really , I'm realizing for myself anyway. I haven't
>> yet learned to channel that anxiety into productivity, but I am learning to
>> turn it off and not have my health be impacted by it .
>>
>> If anyone knows of books that combine mindful approaches with daily
>> productivity, I would be interested in hearing about them. ( if you feel
>> like it, copy your response to lstr...@gmail.com :).
>>
>> The book that is completely changing my life right now, though it might
>> not be a good fit for many of you :-) Is, "The Life-Changing Magic of
>> Tidying up " . (People's can poo-poo it all they want, and they do, but
>> it's going across the world like wildfire, and for a reason :-)
>>
>> It's this short, poorly organized and not particularly well-written,
>> translation of a Japanese book that is ostensibly about deciding what items
>> in your house you would like to keep because they are joyful/appreciated,
>> and seems like just another twist on other organizing methods, that instead
>> has hidden in it a gem of a process that has clarified what's been missing
>> for me for 25 years in how I deal with my belongings and is now changing
>> how I see my actions through the day and even my life perspective a
>> little.  (Sidenote:it doesn't seem like it makes a lot of sense, it appeals
>> more to women than men, and it doesn't work well IMO unless it's embraced
>> as is rather than being analyzed to death and tweaked, all probably making
>> it a poor fit for most of this list :-)
>>
>> I haven't yet gotten to the point of applying this process to my task
>> list, but it's going to take a while and probably be quite amazing and
>> freeing. I have thousands of "aspirational" tasks collected over the years
>> (just as I've collected aspirational clutter – that stuff that reminds me
>> of actions I wanted to take but never got to and now have become guilt)
>> that are sitting in MLO and weighing me down. (many of them captured from
>> my brain using GTD but then never let go of because I was so running around
>> trying to do the tasks that I never did a review process consistently , but
>> also from time management books that encourage keeping of everything in
>> your system, but never say to let it go - "just move it to a someday list"
>> :-) . It will be interesting to see what kind of the task management
>> solution I end up with in MLO when I'm done. I wouldn't be at all surprised
>> to see a book come out of it but it might be a few years . …
>>
>> Lisa, who has pretty much abandoned you all due to health issues but
>> getting better slowly
>> On Jul 24, 2015 6:06 AM, "John Smith"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> What do you make of this interesting article?
>>>
>>> http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/productive-people-do-nothing/1107640/
>>>
>>> Apparently the key to productivity is not blasting through (endless)
>>> to-do lists flat out, nope - not even nicely prioritized ones. No,
>>> according to David Allen the trick is to create enough 'space' in your mind
>>> in order to think clearly. The way to do this can be either to deliberately
>>> put stuff off or to deliberately not do most of the stuff on your list at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> I think the title is slightly disingenuous - highly productive people
>>> don't JUST sit around "doing nothing", but nonethe

Re: [MLO] Interesting article - "The Most Productive People Have One Thing In Common: They Do Nothing"

[Lisa Stroyan]

Just wanted to chime in on this thread . I think this article title is
misleading as to what the article discusses ( in the opposite way from your
point, John , but both are true). I don't see having to clear all the tasks
in your head out as necessary for the mindful practices that have been
shown to help health and productivity, and I was expecting a different kind
of "do-nothing" than they describe, more along the lines of time resetting
the nervous system out of the constant stress, fight or flight mode that
task management tends to pull me into .

I am very intrigued by the concept the title itself implies. I do think
that such activities – relaxing in nature, meditation, exercise, morning
pages journaling, a discipline like the one I do, Tai Chi Chih – for me are
having a profound effect on my relationship with my task list and all of
the shoulds. An amazing amount of effort goes into anxiety in our
culture... staggering, really , I'm realizing for myself anyway. I haven't
yet learned to channel that anxiety into productivity, but I am learning to
turn it off and not have my health be impacted by it .

If anyone knows of books that combine mindful approaches with daily
productivity, I would be interested in hearing about them. ( if you feel
like it, copy your response to lstro...@gmail.com :).

The book that is completely changing my life right now, though it might not
be a good fit for many of you :-) Is, "The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying
up " . (People's can poo-poo it all they want, and they do, but it's going
across the world like wildfire, and for a reason :-)

It's this short, poorly organized and not particularly well-written,
translation of a Japanese book that is ostensibly about deciding what items
in your house you would like to keep because they are joyful/appreciated,
and seems like just another twist on other organizing methods, that instead
has hidden in it a gem of a process that has clarified what's been missing
for me for 25 years in how I deal with my belongings and is now changing
how I see my actions through the day and even my life perspective a
little.  (Sidenote:it doesn't seem like it makes a lot of sense, it appeals
more to women than men, and it doesn't work well IMO unless it's embraced
as is rather than being analyzed to death and tweaked, all probably making
it a poor fit for most of this list :-)

I haven't yet gotten to the point of applying this process to my task list,
but it's going to take a while and probably be quite amazing and freeing. I
have thousands of "aspirational" tasks collected over the years (just as
I've collected aspirational clutter – that stuff that reminds me of actions
I wanted to take but never got to and now have become guilt) that are
sitting in MLO and weighing me down. (many of them captured from my brain
using GTD but then never let go of because I was so running around trying
to do the tasks that I never did a review process consistently , but also
from time management books that encourage keeping of everything in your
system, but never say to let it go - "just move it to a someday list" :-) .
It will be interesting to see what kind of the task management solution I
end up with in MLO when I'm done. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a
book come out of it but it might be a few years . …

Lisa, who has pretty much abandoned you all due to health issues but
getting better slowly
On Jul 24, 2015 6:06 AM, "John Smith"  wrote:

> Hello
>
> What do you make of this interesting article?
>
> http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/productive-people-do-nothing/1107640/
>
> Apparently the key to productivity is not blasting through (endless) to-do
> lists flat out, nope - not even nicely prioritized ones. No, according to
> David Allen the trick is to create enough 'space' in your mind in order to
> think clearly. The way to do this can be either to deliberately put stuff
> off or to deliberately not do most of the stuff on your list at all.
>
> I think the title is slightly disingenuous - highly productive people
> don't JUST sit around "doing nothing", but nonetheless spending a
> significant amount of time doing nothing is extremely important nonetheless
> to one's overall productivity.
>
> Food for thought, no?
>
> John
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Re: [MLO] Re: How can I sync automatically? (i.e. without pressing Synchronise button) (MLO Pro v4.3.3 on Win8.1)

[Lisa Stroyan]

It also syncs on exit and start automatically.

Lisa (alive but not really here :-)
On Jul 31, 2015 11:33 AM, "Dwight Arthur"  wrote:

> Hi John and Francesco. In the MLO FAQ at
>
> http://www.mylifeorganized.net/support.shtml#29-How-does-Cloud-autosync-work-on-MLO-Desktop
> you can see that "MLO Desktop syncs automatically to MLO-Cloud if MLO
> application was inactive for 5-10 minutes."
>
> So, if you do not want to worry about hitting the sync button, ust make
> sure that you let the app go idle for 10 minutes every once in a while. You
> can check if this has happened by hovering the mouse pointer over the sync
> button, a popup will tell you how long it has been since the last sync. If
> you cannot step away from your computer, you can still hit the sync button.
> If you want to make it sync without having to take a break *or* hit th sync
> button, then sorry, I don't know how to achieve that.
> -Dwight
> MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2
> On 7/31/2015 8:54 AM, Francesco Consoli wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> i noticed that the sync is auto by default.
> I don't think we can tweak it.
>
> Il giorno venerdì 31 luglio 2015 12:02:52 UTC+2, John Smith ha scritto:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> OK I give up. How can I make my MLO (v4.3.3. on Windows 8.1) sync
>> *automatically* ?
>> i.e. Without my pressing the "Synchronize" button ?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> John
>>
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Re: [MLO] Unable to add tasks or subtasks to my MLO file

[Lisa Stroyan]

What happens, specifically? I'm successfully running on 8.1 but don't think
I did anything special. I'm leaving on travel soon but hopefully someone
has ideas. It's definitely possible!
On Mar 6, 2015 7:42 AM, "Alan Ming Kong"  wrote:

> Dear all:
>
> Most of my time with MLO was on Win 7, which was great. I switched to and
> used Win 8 for a short period of time, and now I am using Win 8.1. My MLO
> is 4.1.0 Professional Edition.
>
> I am unable to add tasks or subtasks in my MLO data file. I encountered
> the same issue on Win 7, and resolved it by Save As or Export and Import
> (sorry, cannot remember).
>
> Now I have tried the same method to resolve the problem and failed. I have
> also tried Run the program as Administrator and Compatibility Mode of Win
> 7&8. None worked. I am really frustrated now as my MLO file contains a lot
> of my career and personal planning data.
>
> Would greatly appreciate your help!
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Re: [MLO] Email Alerts

[Lisa Stroyan]

Sorry, haven't tried it. But I do remember something about gmail needing a
hack to work...have you searched the archives? Anyone remember?
On Mar 6, 2015 7:42 AM, "Nick S"  wrote:

> Just me then?
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RE: [MLO] mlo android menu question

[Lisa Stroyan]

On my phone which doesn't have a physical menu button, there are three dots
in the upper right corner.
On Mar 6, 2015 6:12 PM, "Dwight Arthur"  wrote:

> Hi, Joanne.
> To get to the menu, go to the MLO home page, then hit the Android's
> hardware Menu button. The pop-up menu should include Settings, but I don't
> remember if "hide completed" is in the Settings or not.
> -Dwight
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 6:28 PM
> To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [MLO] mlo android menu question
>
> Ok I'm sure this is a dumb question. But where is the menu on mlo for
> android tablet? I want to hide completed task and can't.  Help pls.
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Re: [MLO] Newbie Question: Does MLO have 'Areas of Focus'?

[Lisa Stroyan]

I too get stuck with the RTE and not wanting to have to type a new folder
name each time. I suppose I could have a sticky note with several versions
of " -tofldnameofparentfolder " but I'd still have to cut and paste them
in.

The answer is probably to train myself to do it with the inline parsing but
that's not happened yet. Also, that doesn't account for notes, multiple
tasks, etc.

Possible (un-thought-out) enhancement: a different key combination that
brings up an RTE with some sense of knowledge of where you invoked it from.
(Which doesn't change the main RTE).


On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:55 AM, pottster  wrote:

> You can tell MLO where to put it in RTE by using the parsing commands for
> tasks/folder e.g. -to*nameofparenttask* or -tofld*nameofparentfolder*
>
>
> On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:55:06 UTC, John Smith wrote:
>>
>> Christoph
>>
>> But when you add data e.g. using Ctrl/Shift/M where does MLO put it?
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 10:19:12 AM UTC, Christoph wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 27.01.2015 um 10:48 schrieb John Smith:
>>> > I am trying to work out if I could set up a way of working whereby I
>>> > might have say 4 or 5 completely separate areas of my life (AKA "Areas
>>> > of Focus") whereby at a single click or hotkey combination I now look
>>> at
>>> > a universe that consists of just that area. i.e. Everything I then
>>> enter
>>> > goes straight into that area and everything I see is just that area.
>>>
>>> I have created a folder for each of the areas, and a workspace
>>> associated with each of the folders. In every workspace, I have
>>> zoomed-in (Ctrl-R) to the associated folder. Works great for me.
>>>
>>> -- Christoph
>>>
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Re: [MLO] Re: Feature request: SubTabs (secondary tabs)

[Lisa Stroyan]

I like it! A lot!

I would suggest that perhaps the main group tab (the default for the group)
would also become the first tab when a second tab is added to the group. So
if my tab starts as Outline, and I want to add another Outline that hides
completed, I would have both listed as subtabs to switch between, with
something indicating which one is selected.

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Andrei Bacean 
wrote:

> attached is a simple mock-up
>
> the idea is simple. when we click on a main-tab, we will see a view
> assigned to it (like it is in the current version of MLO).
> also below that tab we will see a collection of subtabs. when we click on
> a subtab we will see another view.
> Each main tab has its own collection of subtabs.
>
> вторник, 13 января 2015 г., 0:12:51 UTC+2 пользователь Stéph написал:
>>
>> Can you mock-up how this would look, Andrei?
>>
>> Happy New Year to you, too.
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Re: [MLO] How many Actions to create per project? I can't decide...

[Lisa Stroyan]

The "Hide in todo" will make a subtask inactive and hide the task from
views that contain only Active tasks, and will be shown in gray in the
outline. Even more useful, a task with children that are hidden, is itself
active, which parent tasks are usually not (parents with outstanding
children, that is). So if I have

PM Routine
 Take supplements
 Review tomorrow's schedule...

If the subtasks are hidden, "PM Routine" will be active.

I don't know how many tasks you should create but here's my
modified/inspired by GTD strategy. I don't break tasks down into component
actions in MLO until they are on the horizon. (or if they are recurring).
If I know steps that will be in the list I put them in the notes. So for
example, in our mold remediation project, I had "Get the ducts cleaned" -
clearly not actionable at that level of detail. But that couldn't be done
until all moldy materials were removed and a bunch of other things. I might
have a note with it, "need to solicit recommendations / look at schedule
dependencies" but I wouldn't break it down into steps until it was coming
up. The further the horizon, the less detail I have in my tree,
theoretically. (It's all a bit theoretical at this point for me; my task
tree is a mess, which those of you that know me can imagine is a rather
painful state for me :).



On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:01 PM, John Smith  wrote:

>
> P.S. Is it possible in MLO to have tick-lists for very small tasks which
> do NOT appear on all your normal lists of Actions & Projects etc ?
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Re: [MLO] Re: Is this the best way to move stuff into a GTD Sometime-Maybe list? (i.e. Control/M, Enter, Enter !)

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I had the same thought about Control-D. I think Alt-D was what was meant,
it goes to the due date field.

I really have to find time to play with auto formatting and icons more.
Sounds like a good refinement.

John, I know you already have your system but for others following the
thread...I prefer to use drag/drop ordering for importance/priority also,
but since my outline structure has other meaning, I do that drag/drop in a
manually sorted view. Since Android only syncs the order of Starred and
Active Starred (two independent sort orders), I use those. I have learned
that if I create a view based on one of these, for example, modified Active
Starred with action type set to all, I can rearrange the non-active tasks
and they will show up in that order -- with caveats -- in the other Active
Starred views as well.  (That way I can rearrange tomorrow's tasks).

Unfortunately there is some sync bug where my recurring tasks sometimes get
sent to the bottom of the list for the next day when I'm working from and
syncing from both platforms (happened long before the above view hack). So
John, this probably wouldn't work for you anyway, because it works as a
"today's working order" but not really as a static order. The only way I
make it work is that all of my recurring tasks have "()" in the title so I
can quickly grab them and put them back in place when this happens.

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:12 AM, John Smith  wrote:

> Dwight -
>
> One problem I was having with the folders is that I was being over-whelmed
> with too much what was if fact rather low priority stuff clogging up my
> lists and I found that that high priority stuff was ending up being buried
> down in some folder somewhere.
>
> The other problem I was having was that I found - and continue to find -
> it way too pedantic and time consuming to allocate as well as Context, to
> also enter both Importance AND Urgency to ever single sub-task. And for
> this reason I have been experimenting with manually dragging the higher
> overall priority item further up the sort order in Outline view.
>
> At the time I also needed to "simplify and get on with my life" - but
> thanks for your suggestion. I can see that some form of folders could
> possibly help me, so I may revisit this issue later, but as things stand
> complex folders would be the kiss of death for me(!)
>
>
> Stéph
>
> - Interesting. Yes, your greying-out formatting rule sounds extremely
> clever.
>
> - When your remove the Due Dates is this done with an "advanced filtering
> rule" applied to whichever view(s) you are using.
>
> - Please can you explain what you mean by "Control-D, Delete". Control-D
> will duplicate the current item, but Delete then deletes the original one,
> so surely you are back to where you started, no?
> (Yes, I like using Control-D on it's own, particularly where the Context
> is the same, because obviously it saves us from re-entering the Context)
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 9:12:02 AM UTC, Stéph wrote:
>>
>> Hello John,
>>
>> I use the outline structure to group my tasks into the following
>> hierarchy:
>> Areas of Focus (personal, home, work, community),
>> Roles (husband, father, friends & family, project engineer, team leader,
>> SCADA specialist, etc),
>> Goals and Projects,
>> Sub-projects and tasks.
>>
>>
>> I use a Context to tag tasks as someday/maybe (see the flying pig icon in
>> the "icons and filters" thread I started and Andrey kindly pinned at the
>> top of the list). I've got a formatting rule set up to grey-out the text of
>> someday/maybe items so that they don't stand-out when I'm looking at my
>> outline. I also remove due dates. This way it's quick to make something
>> someday/maybe - just assign the context (with a hotkey, if you like). Also
>> type ctrl-D, Delete, if you have the time for two actions.
>>
>>
>> As far as the tickler list is concerned, that's definitely a case of
>> setting a start date.  The quickest way for me is Ctrl-S and then type and
>> take advantage of the excellent date parsing - "Next week Thursday", "in 2
>> months", etc.
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
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Re: [MLO] Can you sync between pcs and apple products without the cloud sync?

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MLO doesn't run natively on iOS yet but some people have gotten it running
with emulators. If you can get that working and are comfortable with cloud
sync you should be able to create a fairly seamless solution. It's not 100
percent automatic but I find it reliable with two pc's and an android phone.
On Dec 27, 2014 7:00 AM, "Lea Kline Allen" 
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> I have a pc desktop and an apple laptop and an android phone.  I want to
> sync seamlessly. Can I with different operating systems?  Do I need to plug
> in to sync, can all three sync automatically if I sign up for the cloud?
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Re: [MLO] feature request: sync manual sort of todo list

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The outline has a fixed order that can be used as a sort order. That
transfers to Android. There is a separate concept called manual sort which
is specific to each view allowing, for example, me to drag my morning tasks
around without messing with the outline (fixed) order.
On Dec 18, 2014 11:15 AM, "John Smith"  wrote:

> Hi Andrei B
>
> Yes, on the disk will be the order in which the tasks were entered. And
> there will be some type of sorting in effect a sorting layer applied to the
> data to given you the sort order for the All Tasks button output.
>
> And if you apply a context filter the sort order is not changed, yes?
>
> What I meant by what do you mean by a query was whether it had a specific
> meaning in MLO terms as opposed to something that looked similar but which
> nonetheless was NOT a query. Either way as far as I can see a MLO 'View' is
> something very similar to 'a query' or 'a report'. i.e. it is a request for
> data from the MLO database that can be filtered and grouped. It can also be
> sorted automatically - OR it can have a manual sort order to it. However as
> far as I can see there is only ONE manual sort order working on any
> database at a time, no?
>
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Re: [MLO] feature request: sync manual sort of todo list

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The Starred and Active Starred are both manually sorted and their order
does sync to Android. I use Active Starred as my "work from" list, along
with Goal settings.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:28 PM, J Smith  wrote:
>
> +1
>
> I have also given 2 votes on mlo.uservoice.com where it has received 28
> votes.
>
> What's going on on this issue? For anyone who uses manual sorting this is
> a pretty fundamental request (!)
> This issue was first suggested on Google Groups back in 2011, and it is
> now about to be 2015!
> Has anything been done about this issue yet?
>
> J
>
> P.S. Personally I use a combination of Importance & Urgency PLUS manual
> sorting. The problem with Importance and Urgency is that life moves too
> quickly to enter let alone change the priorities all the time. And so for
> me manual sorting + Alt/H is best for quick fire-stuff.  HOWEVER tasks &
> projects that have been around for a while need more serious thought
> applied to them...
>
> I'd love to hear from other people how they are using manual sort and/or
> the other forms of marking up to control priority.
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Re: [MLO] Suggestion: New Group (or new forum) for MLO new users?

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I'm going to put on my volunteer moderator hat, given to me the developer,
and officially ask that you  don't create any separate list about MLO right
now. Wait for an okay from the developers for any idea like this before you
jump in and mix things up and frankly, create more discord. This is their
list, set up for peer support and discussion.  If you create another list I
believe it risks fracturing the community we have here.

What's "clear" to you is not at all clear to many of us who have actually
been here doing this for years.

It's time to get back to talking about how to use the features we already
have, IMNSHO.
Hello

It is clear that new users and long-time users have very different
requirements.

I think it's important for the long-time users of MLO to have a place where
they can have in depth, carefully considered conversation, normally having
read the relevant parts of the manual about the extremely complex system
(or should I say 'platform'?  ;^)  ) that his MLO. And to be able to do so
without distracting noise & chatter from new users.

As a new user I would like a place where I can have a very different, much
more informal sort of conversation. When I first moved to MLO I wanted to
be able to spray out at least 1 at least one question every half hour of
using the system. But I did not want to irritate the experts during the
process. I do NOT expect to have all my questions answered. I want
something more like a chat room or Twitter, where you tweet out to the
universe and you may or may not get a direct message back, depending on
whether or not anyone else is listening (i.e. following *and* reading). I
also want to be able to retract or edit my questions if I discover answer
to my question or have the misspelled something before anyone got to answer
my question.

Possible solutions:

1. Another Google Group.
It's quite easy to start another Google Group called say
"MyLifeOrganised.new.users"
On the down side editing posts appears to be impossible (??)

2. Google+
Perhaps a more modern solution?
(Although I have never used it seriously)

3. A Free Hosted Forum
e.g.
- https://www.proboards.com/free-forum-features
- http://www.lefora.com/
- ??


Any thoughts/other suggestions?

If nobody stops me in the first instance I will probably just start new
Google Group as a experiment, but with the clear understanding that we
decide to delete the whole group if unsuccessful and/or anyone has a better
idea.

J

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Re: [MLO] This forum - please can we have immediate visibility?

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Apologies for that. But it's a Google group with volunteers doing much of
the moderation. Not only does that mean we have no control over the
features, but it also means it's not so much a feature problem, just a
resources problem.

As someone that has been on communication platform search committees and
has looked into what it might take for organizations to switch between
types, there is no platform that is perfect and free and even if there was,
people complain because they are more used to other ways because that is
what they know. There are big advantages to email groups (but the web
interface might not be one). This is not a forum, it's an email group with
a not-great web interface. It's not changing anytime soon, we aren't going
to get Google to change its model.
On Dec 8, 2014 8:33 AM, "MrCricket"  wrote:

> Hi, I agree with a machanism of moderation, but I would like to propose to
> put moderated posts at the end of the thread (with 'now' date, which will
> advance thread's mtime), else it is being inserted somewhere in the middle
> of the thread (due to earlier original post time), *so nobody sees it.*
> I've posted on this forum two messages, for both took about 1-2 days for
> moderation and got no answers. I think the above is the reason. 10x
>
>
> On Thursday, December 4, 2014 7:53:57 AM UTC+2, Lisa S wrote:
>>
>> New members are only moderated until it's obvious they are not trolling
>> and someone gets around to manually unmoderating them as it's not supported
>> through the email system (or in the very rare case that a moderator feels a
>> discussion is getting too personal or vitriolic).  That usually takes time.
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Re: [MLO] This forum - please can we have immediate visibility?

[Lisa Stroyan]

Ken: definitely. I enjoy having it appreciated so steal away :-)

John: here's the thing. In the opinion of many of us here, MLO is an
amazingly powerful, very carefully designed task management platform. (it's
not really a task management system, in my opinion, but a platform. More on
that in a sec) It's certainly not bug free, nor is it consistently the same
level of sophistication in all areas. ( for example, rich text,
documentation, etc) . No one is arguing that it's perfect. Honest.

But some things that you are vehemently calling bugs are intentional and
appropriate design decisions, and have had a lot of smart people thinking
in much detail about the best way to implement them cohesively with other
features. This is not defensiveness or "because it's always been this way"
which I think you will be able to see as time goes bythere are real
design trade-offs in complicated software systems as I'm sure you know.

However, some of the points you bring up are valid - but you can't really
know which ones until you understand the system as it is. so coming in and
saying "this is a stupid way to do things" takes people aback. So I ask you
to come in with an attitude of, "explain what I'm not understanding ." And
to realize that the people replying to your questions are other users, so
you may not always get answers.

I think one area of confusion is that MLO is not really an out-of-the-box
wysiwyg task system, and should not be,  when you get into the complexity
that we are talking about. It's designed to support many methodologies
robustly, and even though it uses GTD terminology and can be implemented as
a GTD management system, it is not hardwired that way.  My experience, even
people that want a "pure" GTD system (which I moved away from years ago)
implement it radically differently in MLO.

so I guess that is my answer to a question you raised in another thread
about do you really have to set up your MLO structure and why it doesn't
just work intuitively. Yes. You do. It's the curse and the beauty of MLO ,
take it or leave it. then after you've explored it more, you will be better
equipped to advocate for missing and unintuitive features. I can tell you
will be good at that :-) let's see… I'm guessing you will be wanting a
calendar view?(Sorry, inside joke).

The good news is that you don't have to design your system all perfectly
the first time because it's not that hard to change later. ( I've switched
from context to flags to tree structure , for example, for my areas of
focus. I just created a view that selected all tasks with a particular
context or flag and edit them as a group ).

I have actually begun to look at my task management system as something
that has a natural evolution . I energize myself to organize my life by
reviewing my processes and adjusting my MLO structure to match. thinking
about my task management system organization is part of my review process
and helps me organize myself as well. I used to be on my own case about
always changing it, but you know? I think my brain just needs to keep it
interesting.

I hope you give MLO a chance to show off its amazing features as well as
its quirks, rather than trying to line it up with the picture you have of
what it ought to be. Be curious. (You might want to choose your on-list
curiosities based on which ones you most want an answer for ).

By the way, welcome to the crowd.
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>
>
> You might want to adjust your vinegar to honey ratio accordingly...
>>
>
> Love that expression! Have I your permission to borrow?
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Re: [MLO] Re: MLO on Windows 8.1 and very high resolution screens

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Photoshop elements has tiny text though there may be workarounds I haven't
tried. Works fine you ashtray know where things are. But most hi res
computers can run at a lower resolution if you are desperate.

I didn't try to port my old apps. I replaced old style Eudora (though need
a solution to search old mail archives) and Outlook both with EMClient,
upgraded Dragon, Master Cook, and still have a few others I haven't dealt
with.I doubt screen resolution would be your biggest problem though if a
program isn't updated.
On Dec 4, 2014 2:53 AM,  wrote:

> No - not decided yet so that it very helpful (and reassuring).  Thank you,
> Lisa
>
> Off topic follow up question:  have you had any problems with any other
> applications running at that resolution.  I still use Ecco (for time
> recording) for which support ceased 10-15 years ago and I wondering how
> that would cope with such a high resolution.
>
> Richard
>
> On 2014-12-04 05:37, Lisa Stroyan wrote:
>
>> Apologies if my reply is too late to help. I'm running on a Samsung
>> Ativ Book 9 with 3200 x 1800 high-resolution display and 8.1. MLO
>> works great.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Richard C  wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks everybody. That's helpful. I sounds as if MLO is well
>>> behaved in terms of the way it deals with resolutions
>>>
>>> I can get the laptop I want with a 1920 x 1024 resolution but the
>>> higher res one is only slightly more expensive and would be nice.
>>> But
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 22 November 2014 20:34:25 UTC, Richard C wrote:
>>>
>>>  Does anybody have any experience of using MLO on Windows 8.1 at
>>>> very high resolutions (3200 x 1880)?
>>>>
>>>> I am about to upgrade to a new laptop and think I might get
>>>> something with the above specification.
>>>>
>>>> The reviews I have read indicate that even with the Windows 8.1
>>>> scaling set to display icons and text at an easy to use size,
>>>> some older programs do not work with these settings (eg dialog
>>>> boxes are very small).
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have any experience of this?
>>>>
>>>> And does MLO work OK with Windows 8.1. Is there anything I need
>>>> to know.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
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Re: [MLO] This forum - please can we have immediate visibility?

[Lisa Stroyan]

New members are only moderated until it's obvious they are not trolling and
someone gets around to manually unmoderating them as it's not supported
through the email system (or in the very rare case that a moderator feels a
discussion is getting too personal or vitriolic).  That usually takes time.

One note: 95% of the attention on this list is by users; it's much more of
a peer support group than a customer input mechanism. You might want to
adjust your vinegar to honey ratio accordingly...

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:31 AM, John Smith  wrote:

>
> Hello
>
> Can anyone tell me whether it is technically possible on Google Groups
> (assuming we must stay using it) to have our posts be visible immediately?
> And if so is it technically possible that we can EDIT our forum
> contributions. (As can be done on most modern forums including David
> Allen's official one here: http://gettingthingsdone.com/forum/,
> http://forum.gtdnext.com/ etc)
>
> I don't mind (much!) having my posts moderated and removed afterwards if
> they are in any way inappropriate. But I am trying hard to help, believe
> me. And having a "stop-start" discussion on any topic where you can't even
> see what you said yourself for 24 hour is deeply frustrating.
>
> If we get junkmail and/or trolling surely it is better to remove those
> post afterwards rather than have all of us unable to have a fast-flowing
> conversation.
>
> So, if it is technically possible, MLO, please, please, PLEASE can you
> change the settings so that we can see our posts immediately and not 24
> hours later.
>
> Thanx
>
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Re: [MLO] Re: MLO on Windows 8.1 and very high resolution screens

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Apologies if my reply is too late to help. I'm running on a Samsung Ativ
Book 9 with 3200 x 1800 high-resolution display and 8.1. MLO works great.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Richard C  wrote:

> Thanks everybody.That's helpful.   I sounds as if MLO is well behaved
> in terms of the way it deals with resolutions
>
> I can get the laptop I want with a 1920 x 1024 resolution but the higher
> res one is only slightly more expensive and would be nice.  But
>
> On Saturday, 22 November 2014 20:34:25 UTC, Richard C wrote:
>>
>> Does anybody have any experience of using MLO on Windows 8.1 at very high
>> resolutions (3200 x 1880)?
>>
>>
>> I am about to upgrade to a new laptop and think I might get something
>> with the above specification.
>>
>>
>> The reviews I have read indicate that even with the Windows 8.1 scaling
>> set to display icons and text at an easy to use size,  some older programs
>> do not work with these settings (eg dialog boxes are very small).
>>
>>
>> Does anybody have any experience of this?
>>
>>
>> And does MLO work OK with Windows 8.1.  Is there anything I need to know.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Richard
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Re: [MLO] Re: MyLifeOrganized for Android v.2

[Lisa Stroyan]

This is where you are going to find the experienced users (including those
of us that have been around for various instantiations of "why aren't we
using ", though to be fair there may be
experienced users out there that are no longer here.

I suspect you cannot edit because it's a email group as well. Posts are
emailed out to the list so allowing changes would be awfully confusing with
some people seeing one version and others, another.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Joel Azaria  wrote:

> You can discuss it anywhere you want.  Here and the user voice are the
> only "official" channels I'm aware of.
> On Nov 28, 2014 3:47 AM, "John Smith"  wrote:
>
>> Are there any other places where we can discuss MLO?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:02:45 AM UTC, Joel Azaria wrote:
>>>
>>> I know.  Typo.
>>> And this board won't allow to edit a post.
>>> J.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:57:37 PM UTC-5, DJM wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 3 1/2 months since since early August for the counting challenged.
>>>>
>>>> David J. Mangen
>>>> MRA
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 25, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Joel Azaria  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> THIS alone would be a great first step.  Though more concisely and
>>>> perhaps useful to the devs would be open up the accessibility of beta
>>>> tester status so more of us could use, participate and offer feedback on
>>>> the beta rather than this closed group of elite's (not jabbing at you Lisa,
>>>> it's just how the structure of the program feels).
>>>>
>>>> And just to point out - Andrey opened this thread on AUGUST 8th (that's
>>>> 5 1/2 months for the lazy/math challenged) regarding software announced to
>>>> Beta almost a year prior and thus far all we have to show for it is a blog
>>>> post with 5 or 6 screen shots.  Glad to see my words about communication
>>>> weren't taken lightly.
>>>>
>>>> I guess the joke that is us the users continues on...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, November 3, 2014 10:21:26 AM UTC-5, Lisa S wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an idea. I know, wrong forum but hopefully that's ok. I have
>>>>> been working with the last Android beta for almost a year and it is very
>>>>> stable. I would suggest the development team release the current Beta as
>>>>> the option for Android 2 phones to give them basic custom views when the
>>>>> beta team switches to the new version.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:59 AM, robert roszak 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another ~3 months have passed and I think many of us are wondering if
>>>>>> they can count on having Android v.2 still this year (let's say as a
>>>>>> Christmas present;)). Does anyone know anything new he could share with 
>>>>>> us?
>>>>>> I think it would be much appreciated by all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert
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Re: [MLO] Newbie Q: How well does MLO match up to this?

[Lisa Stroyan]

I think everything you list is covered except encryption -- search the
board for previous discussions particularly from Dwight; and perhaps color
-- I'm not sure how far automatic formatting goes, but I think you can do
it.

As far as sending to the inbox through email, you would need to buy the
cloud service and I think that is what hits against the encryption side. If
you did only wi-fi sync I believe you cannot use Task-by-email.

Just a user -

Lisa

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:55 PM, John Smith  wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> I am new to GTD and to MLO.  I have been using a web-only app called
> GTDNext. But I am frustrated that there is no mobile app version.  I am
> looking for a tool to automate GTD lists (David Allen)
>
> I am looking for a tool with the following features:
>
> 1. Extremely easy/fast data entry (using lots of hotkeys and only minimal
> use of the mouse)
>
> 2. Multi-levels of Projects and Actions (i.e. sub-projects and/or
> sub-action )
>
> 3. Ease of changing an item between Projects and Actions (and back).
>
> 4. Next Actions - i.e. the ability to generate a queue of future Next
> Actions for a Project, but with the ability to just show one Next Action
> per Project.  And as soon as you tick off an action as being complete, then
> the  next action in the queue immediately pops up as the official "Next
> Action" for the Project.
>
> 5. The ability to send emails into the "In Basket" for processing (ideally
> with tags embedded in the title).
>
> 6. Ability to put Projects (and Actions) into some sort of priority that
> is can be sorted/reported on and which is clearly visible with colour.
> i.e. I want to be able to see a screenful of items and without actually
> needing to read anything, to see which are the most urgent (about 4 levels
> of priority/color would be fine).
>
> 7. "Focus" mark-up.
> i.e. Separate from "priority" to have some bright colour mechanism for
> showing "has focus" (i.e. I have decided to do this item today)
>
> 8. The ability do move projects up and down the list of projects FAST
> using hotkeys. i.e. To change the sort order of both Projects and Actions
> within projects very easily
>
> 9. Either a good web or PC application...
>
> 10. ...that syncs well with a mobile app... that works off-line (as well
> as on-line).
>
> 11. Excellent security/encryption of all my project data
>
> 12. A development team that has a history if being responsive to user
> requests.
>
> How well does MLO match up?
>
> Many thanks
>
> J
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Re: [MLO] Formatting Notes

[Lisa Stroyan]

Ha! You know me too well :-) But have no fear, I'm barely skimming this
month and next.

On Nov 18, 2014 7:57 AM, "Dwight Arthur"  wrote:
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>  I hope you (and Lisa) did not waste too much time trying to make it work.
> -Dwight

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Re: [MLO] Review not showing in outline

[Lisa Stroyan]

I think you are talking about the view called "Review" under outline. When
I click on the view title I get to the view configuration options, and I
scroll down and look under Advanced. It shows tasks for which next review
exists and next review on or before today. Perhaps your tasks are set to be
reviewed later? I'm not sure why this view is under Outline since most
outline views don't discriminate based on date. You might want to modify it
to be what you want. Then save it under a new name and make that new one
the view for your tab.
On Nov 11, 2014 1:42 AM, "Alan McBurney" 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> I am trying to mark items for review which I can sucessfully do.
>
> The issue that I am struggling with is that any item that is marked for
> review does not show within Outline - Review section.
>
> Am I missing something?
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Re: [MLO] Does MLO support input parsing on Android ?

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No, but there is a hack...if you enter the text to parse on android then
later go to that task on the desktop, click in the title and hit ctrl
enter, it will parse it then.
On Nov 10, 2014 5:58 AM, "jason liu"  wrote:

> MLO support input parsing on Windows.But does MLO support input parsing on
> Android ?
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Re: [MLO] Re: Sync stuck on Android

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That's strange. My experience has been that the sync has been  consistently
reliable, better than most apps in my experience. ( I'm referring to the
cloud sync and haven't  used Wi-Fi sync). Perhaps I have a more standard
device and than you do?

Are you creating a new cloud file when you wipe your install?

Also, think about your system parameters. Is there anything that could be
interfering? For example, last week I had what I thought was a MLO data
corruption bug. Suddenly all my tasks would be 109 days out of date . This
had happened once before and I thought I had tracked it down . After
writing up a big bug report, I discovered that syncplicity was overwriting
it with an old version that hadn't been updated for 109 days, which happens
to be when I got my new laptop. It wasn't MLO at all.
On Nov 5, 2014 3:37 AM,  wrote:

> Strange. I am having the same problem.  I have so far
> uninstalled/reinstalled a couple of times on my phone but no luck.
> If this latest attempt doesn't work I'll try wiping the data and starting
> over.
> I have to say the sync on this app is a bit of a shocker. I seem to be
> having constant problems with it. The tech support is great but must be
> kept very busy with sync issues.
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Re: [MLO] Re: Google Calendar and Tasks integration/sync - now that Outlook can't be used as hub

[Lisa Stroyan]

It sounds like there are two issues.

1 - You were syncing tasks and Calendar from Outlook to Google but your
sync method no longer works. gSyncIt (third party app designed to get
around this issue) would probably still work but it sounds like that's not
what you are looking for as it still requires Outlook. But for anyone that
cares, gSyncIt is pretty brilliant and has a ton of customization. I've
used it for years (though I now am moving away from any Outlook
involvement. It does sync tasks.

2 - You want to get away from Outlook. For Calendar and mail I use emClient
and it's excellent. I've only needed the free version so far. MUCH better
desktop for Google mail and calendar than trying to force Outlook to sync
every hour or so taking up a bunch of resources in the background (which
gSyncIt does).  But I do not have a task solution for you -- google tasks
are so...basic? antiquated? that for me it was pointless to even try.
Sorry...maybe someone else has an option.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:25 PM, pttravis  wrote:

> Actually, Outlook no longer syncs with Google :(
> sad - it was quite handy.
>
> I just liked having tasks (I would use an Urgent category) showing up in
> my calendar ... made one less thing to have to look at during the day.
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:41:01 PM UTC-4, pttravis wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks.
>> Question is now that Google Calendar/Tasks cannot be synced with Outlook
>> -
>> I'm having an issue with MLO
>> Example: I was having MLO sync with Outlook and then Outlook sync with
>> Google Calendar
>> ... can't do that anymore
>> .. ANY suggestions, tricks, tips to do this and Tasks now?
>> (I have to utilize Google Calendar and Task because of a team situation
>> ...)
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Re: [MLO] Re: MyLifeOrganized for Android v.2

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I have an idea. I know, wrong forum but hopefully that's ok. I have been
working with the last Android beta for almost a year and it is very stable.
I would suggest the development team release the current Beta as the option
for Android 2 phones to give them basic custom views when the beta team
switches to the new version.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:59 AM, robert roszak 
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> Hi
>
> Another ~3 months have passed and I think many of us are wondering if they
> can count on having Android v.2 still this year (let's say as a Christmas
> present;)). Does anyone know anything new he could share with us? I think
> it would be much appreciated by all.
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Re: [MLO] Re: Recurring Tasks. Keeping a specific time if using regeneration.

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I agree with the original poster that using time and "regenerate" doesn't
work well. I have recurrent tasks that need to start at a particular time
(taking medicine). I have to change recurrence to "daily" and use "skip
occurrences" to catch up.  OTOH I don't see an easy way to provide another
option without much confusion to the user since everyone is already used to
the way it is now.

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Dwight Arthur  wrote:

> Here's how I would handle this:
>
> I would leave "use time" turned off, so that the start date and start due
> date do not show any time
> Then I would set a reminder on the task set for 19:00 on start date.
> I believe that whatever time you complete the task it will be regenerated
> for x days hence, with a reminder set for 19:00 on that date.
>
> On Thursday, October 23, 2014 7:47:02 AM UTC-4, Alexis wrote:
>>
>> I like the function "Regenerate Task X Days after task is completed" Is
>> there a way the new task is regenerated at a set time like 19:00 even if i
>> complete the task at 13:35?
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Re: [MLO] Re: Tip: Using Incremental Search

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Do you know about the option to search in current view versus all tasks?
Presuming you are talking about windows. The setting of what to search is
persistent, I believe. You can set to current view, search in a view, click
on the Outline tab, and see the search results there.

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> Thanks for appreciating!
>
> I guess the function would be used more often if it would work the
> convential way. The search begins from the selected task only in down
> direction and only visible tasks (not even ones in closed folders) are
> considered. This would really speed up your workflow. The way it works now
> is kind of unpredictable.
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Re: [MLO] Re: Feature Request: Drag&Drop dependencies

[Lisa Stroyan]

Ah, is that why I keep getting a menu sometimes but not always asking if I
want to add a dependency when I drag and drop? Maybe I'm bumping the right
mouse button.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) <
for...@mylifeorganized.net> wrote:

> Do you know you can drag tasks with right mouse button clicked for
> advanced options? You can add dependency or local links this way. Let me
> know if it helps.
>
> Andrey.
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 11:34:17 AM UTC+3, Andrei Bacean wrote:
>>
>> Drag and drop to create dependency is a time-saver.
>> I placed a feature request on uservoice:
>> http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-general/suggestions/6532021-create-
>> dependencies-by-drag-drop-tasks
>>
>> If anyone thinks that it is a great feature, please vote for it on
>> uservoice.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Andrei Bacean
>>
>> четверг, 19 марта 2009 г., 12:08:08 UTC+2 пользователь neilh написал:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Proposed benefit: Suggestion that would save time, improve best
>>> practice and increase
>>>
>>> Proposed feature: Drag and drop to create task dependencies (using a
>>> hotkey to distinguish from a move)
>>>
>>> Description:
>>> I quite often want to add task dependencies don't bother as it takes
>>> me too long to go into the dependencies box, click open the list,
>>> scroll to the action, etc. What I'd love is to be able to do this by
>>> drag & drop.
>>>
>>> I can see this working in two possible ways:
>>> 1. by allowing you to drag a task with the shift-key held down and
>>> drop it on another task to show that the task you have dragged is a
>>> dependencies for the one that you dropped it on to (instead of moving
>>> it)
>>> 2. have a button in the Dependencies panel that pops open a new dialog
>>> box as a collector for the currently highlighted task. This would
>>> allow you to move the cursor to other tasks and drag them into the
>>> collector dialog.
>>>
>>> This would help in using dependencies better - which would make MLO
>>> more powerful for project management (if changes to the due-dates in
>>> dependent tasks triggered an alert in the subsequent task) , and
>>> increase focus in the To-Do list (automatically hiding the tasks you
>>> can't do anything about without having to select the 'complete
>>> subtasks in order' for the whole branch).
>>>
>>> Any others think this would help them?
>>>
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Re: [MLO] MyLifeOrganized for Android v.2

[Lisa Stroyan]

Quick comment before i retreat back into lurkerdom (hopefully for a few
more months!) My reasoning for voting for supporting only newer phones is
that really, running on an old phone might not be the best experience of
MLO, performance wise. If it's a small percentage and they'd be unhappy you
have to weigh that...

Also I'm curious, are any of those registrations inactive? For example I no
longer use my droid or my bionic, if you want to check your database to see
if they are listed.

Lisa
On Aug 6, 2014 5:32 AM, "Andrey Tkachuk (MLO)" 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Yes, I know that many of you have been waiting for MLO-Android v2 news too
> long. I understand. Android version really needs some love.
>
> I can confirm that the new version is in development.
>
> I never promise any release dates due to complexity of MLO product and
> nature of the software development under fast evolving mobile platforms. I
> would like to inform that we did run into some problems that slowed down
> the development. Now we are back to speed and have all the resources needed
> for the project.
>
> If you want to be the first to know about MLO-Android and not subscribed
> yet for the news - you can do it here:
>
> http://mylifeorganized.net/products/my-life-organized/Android2-announce-subscribe.htm
>
>
> Also we have one important question where we need your help. We need to
> decide if the new version should still support old 2.x Android devices. If
> we support old devices we may not be able to add new cool features
> available only in new 4.x Android devices. Also the development may take
> longer due to compatibility issues.
>
> Our statistics shows that there are still ~19% of MLO users are currently
> using old 2.x devices.
>
> Please help as to make this decision by answering these two questions:
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> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1TNsidEr0p_XxpEu1Mm2khLhYYfEs6TA0aBo8VmE4CtE/viewform
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> Thank you!
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RE: [MLO] Due Dates & Workspaces

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I sometimes put a due date a year from the start date for things I don't
want to have one.
On Jul 22, 2014 6:23 AM, "Dwight Arthur"  wrote:

> Hi, Michael. Good questions.
>
>
>
> 1. Unfortunately you cannot create a repeating task that has no due date.
> But what you could do is to put all of this kind of task into the same top
> level folder or assign them the same context and then exclude that folder
> or context from the views you use to manage your workflow.
>
>
>
> 2. You don’t really need to make a distinction between views and
> workspaces, and a lot of users seem to treat them as synonymous. But since
> you asked, a view is a collection of filters, sort and grouping specs, etc.
> A workspace is a page that displays a view, is accessible via a tab, and
> has a particular record selected as current. You can change what view is in
> a workspace. You can name a workspace a different name from the view name
> if you want. You can have one view displayed in more than one workspace.
> For example, you can have two workspaces displaying the “all tasks” outline
> view, one positioned at your inbox and the other positioned at your “today”
> folder and you can flip back and forth between them using Ctrl+Tab and
> Ctrl+Shift+Tab. You can modify a view in one workspace and (as long as you
> don’t save the modified view) still see the original in another workspace.
>
> -Dwight
>
>
>
> *From:* mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael Mroczka
> *Sent:* Monday, July 21, 2014 12:03 PM
> *To:* mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [MLO] Due Dates & Workspaces
>
>
>
> Two big questions I have are these:
>
>
>
> 1) I have tv series that I'm watching called "Suits". A new episode comes
> out weekly on thursdays so I have it set as a reoccurring task that happens
> on thursdays. The goal is to be able to look at the general project
> "Leisure Media Activities" and at a glance see what is available to do. I
> want to know if I have 4 episodes that are new vs. one episode that is new
> vs. no episodes. It works great and will weekly recur and I can just
> quickly count the number of "New Suits Episode!" tasks that there are. The
> problem lies in the fact that they are marked as OVERDUE and it's screwing
> up my workflow. I want them to have a reoccurring start date, but NO due
> date. Is this possible?
>
>
>
> 2) Workspaces Vs. Views. What the hell is the difference between these?
> Can anyone give me a practical example of how they use the two different
> features? What is a good use for them and how are they different?
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Re: [MLO] Calendar Views?

[Lisa Stroyan]

Not yet.
On Jul 23, 2014 7:25 AM, "Ron George"  wrote:

> I just installed MLO for Windows, can't find a calendar view (i.e.
> monthly). Are there calendar views?
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Re: [MLO] How do I "snooze" a reoccurring task?

[Lisa Stroyan]

I struggle with this all the time. I don't think there is an obvious
answer.

One option is to use "recur x intervals after completion" (e.g.recur one
month after this is completed) for any tasks that could work that way, then
you can change the start date in recurrence options. Your only choice
otherwise might be ctrl-d to duplicate, remove recurrence, change start
date. It's a pain especially with a task tree.hopefully someone has
something better.
 On Jul 10, 2014 5:54 AM, "Bill Border"  wrote:

> I have a reoccurring task that creates a task for me on the first of every
> month to do something. That works fine.
>
> The question: On the first I see the new task, but I won't be able to do
> this until Friday. How do I effectively move the start date for this
> occurrence to Friday?
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> Thanks.
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Re: [MLO] Syncing new tasks from Android to Windows

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Yes, absolutely. the cloud sync is bidirectional. I set it up to "use
server version" in case of conflicts and it works well. However be aware
that the android sync is not entirely automatic, when it detects changes it
notifies you rather than syncing immediately, so good idea to hit the sync
button regularly when are leaving the platform. F9 on Windows, cloud icon
on android.
On Jul 10, 2014 5:54 AM, "Pratik"  wrote:

> I am considering buying MLO Cloud service. In the notes it says we can add
> tasks on the Windows desktop version (I already have that) and then sync.
> Once setup, can we add new tasks on the Android phone/tablet and will they
> sync to the Windows desktop after sync?
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Re: [MLO] When will the MLO android 2 release?

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No announcement has been made.
On Jun 16, 2014 6:54 AM, "zhouhonghua zhou"  wrote:

> When will the MLO android 2 release?
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Re: [MLO] Can tasks be set as recurrent by default?

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You can create your task with defaults and use it as a template
On Jun 16, 2014 5:10 AM, "Laurence Glazier" 
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> Is there some way to this, e.g. by creating default task settings which
> are always applied to a new task? Can't find it anywhere in the program.
> Likewise would be handy on the mobile versions.
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Re: [MLO] Use both sync methods simultaneously?

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The other issue, at least from a practical standpoint right now, is widgets
and such. Widgets don't usually have "focus"; and at least in the current
Android version, completing tasks from the status bar does not have the
same effect as completing them from the application and then switching
focus.
On Jun 15, 2014 6:22 AM, "Dwight Arthur"  wrote:

> Hi, Steve. First of all, they are not *my* servers. I'm just a user with a
> lot of opinions. I might have to get a more powerful phone,  though.
>
> The other issue involves pushing versus pulling synched changes. In push
> sync, the server tells the client thay there are changes waiting. In pull
> sync, the client polls periodically. MLO currently pulls. I am not certain
> but I think Google Calendar, Gmail and Evernote all push. The performance
> of pull sync depends on the polling interval, or how often the client looks
> for changes. If it's too slow, there's a greater risk that a change shows
> up too late. But the faster it gets, the more of your phone's data quota
> and cpu gets used up. Your suggestion of polling whenever the client
> regains focus does help to reduce the risk of late/missed changes but there
> are two problems. (1) when I discover a new task and want to add it to my
> task list and pick up my phone,  I want to get on with adding it right now.
> If the phone makes me watch a "please wait" sign for 20 seconds before
> starting, I would be very frustrated.  (2) sometimes I find a task in MLO,
> put the phone down, spend a while on the task, go to my laptop, make some
> changes, and later pick up the phone to look at my tasks.apparently MLO was
> in the foreground all this time and does not have to "regain focus", so to
> pick up all changes, timer-driven polling is still necessary.
>
> In my view,  push sync is better but it's more complex to code.
> Ng-Dwight
> Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2
>
> On Jun 15, 2014, Steve Gledhill  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Dwight. I can understand the second point about the resources (I
>> guess you're saying that mlo would have to be continually syncing and your
>> servers can't cope). This could be addressed by introducing another level
>> of service to generate the income required to upgrade.
>>
>> I'm not sure about first point:  " It would have to be done quickly
>> enough to arrive at each platform faster than it would take the user to
>> arrive and start updating the other platform." I only ever use MLO on one
>> device at a time. I  may move from from PC to my laptop to my phone quite
>> quickly but certainly not instantly. If we could have mlo check for changes
>> when it has been inactive for a while then that would do. I.e. I make a
>> change on my laptop and then immediately start using mlo on the phone ; mlo
>> on the phone will have been inactive and will therefore auomtatically sync
>> when it has focus.
>>
>> On Saturday, 14 June 2014 02:29:23 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>>
>>> Instant synch would be ideal, but there’s actually a little more to it.
>>> Whenever a changed record gets synched to the cloud there would need to be
>>> a way to push the changed record out to every platform that stores a copy
>>> of the record. It would have to be done quickly enough to arrive at each
>>> platform faster than it would take the user to arrive and start updating
>>> the other platform.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regarding why this is not the case already, this takes a lot more
>>> resources. It would take bigger servers and faster internet connections, in
>>> other words money. In addition any user running MLO on a system where it
>>> feels a little sluggish would see a clearly perceptible slowdown when this
>>> is implemented, and may have to upgrade to a bigger or faster phone.
>>>
>>> _Dwight
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* mylifeo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeo...@googlegroups.com]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Gledhill
>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 13, 2014 8:19 PM
>>> *To:* mylifeo...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [MLO] Use both sync methods simultaneously?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with Dwight: we need to find a way to solve this fundamental
>>> problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My preferred method would be option 2: sync each record to the cloud
>>> immediately. I don't know why this isn't the case already.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:42:13 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>>
>>> Lucas, I agree with you and it really is an MLO problem.  It's just that
>>> it's not a problem with mixed-mode sync.  You can get the same problem with
>>> cloud sync alone. Just change a task on windows and sync to cloud, then
>>> without syncing Android make a change there. Then sync. One of the changes
>>> will be lost based on your sync setting, and neither setting will always be
>>> right. Latest change isnt always right either.
>>>
>>> I believe there are two possible solutions:
>>> 1. Implement on Android the process that's on Windows that notifies the
>>> user that a task was modified on both sides and let the user pick which one

[MLO] OT: project management software ?

[Lisa Stroyan]

I have a one time home project that is bigger and more complicated than
either my brain or MLO really can handle. I'm looking for project
management software, preferably free , that generates text for MLO import.
I'd like to be able to see the relationship between projects , subprojects,
steps, and tasks. I have Inspiration software somewhere, and it might do
the job. It's more designed for kids.

To give you an example of the kind of things I'm talking about, every
belonging we own it needs to be sorted and cleaned after getting rid of
toxic mold. However the whole house is torn up, so there isn't really clean
places to put things. Returning plates to the kitchen, for example,
requires not only that the cabinets be finished, which they aren't, but
also that each item is clean before it goes back into a cabinet, which
requires a dishwasher. We don't have a new dishwasher yet.

I'm starting to sort it all out in my head, and realized that something to
make it visual would be very helpful. Then, I will probably want to
generate a set of text tasks and import them into MLO.

Any ideas?

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Re: [MLO] Holidays and closed contexts

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Couldn't you have views that do not consider open/closed context, or is
that too many views to re-create? If you used inheritance perhaps?

On May 26, 2014 7:51 AM, "Dwight Arthur"  wrote:
>
> Hi, everyone. Today is a holiday in the US and I should be doing yard
work. But my @Yardwork context is closed and my @Work context is open and
my TODAY view is full of stuff about getting the work week off to a good
start. I went in to the "manage contexts" window and set @Yardwork to
always open and @Work to always closed, but this totally wiped out the
schedule that I had created for each of these contexts - tonight I will
have to re-establish all of the days and hours that I want each of these
contexts to be open.
>
> What I would really like would be a command that I could use today to say
"Treat this Monday like it was a Sunday" and have all of my open and closed
contexts from Sunday in effect. I probably would have also asked for this
Sunday to be treated as a Saturday.
>
> Second choice, probably a lot less coding, would be to have buttons on
the "hours" tab in Manage Contexts to say Override: Open context and
Override: Close context, as well as End Override.
>
> Do any of you share this issue and how do you deal with it?
> -Dwight
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Re: [MLO] Auto Cloud Sync on Android

[Lisa Stroyan]

I think you need to open the app and then leave it to have it auto sync.
I've never seen it auto sync when locked.

Lisa
On May 21, 2014 12:29 PM, "Yury S. Chistyakov" 
wrote:

> For some reasons it never works...
> Andoroid 4.2 on HTC. I just get some notifications that updates are
> avialable.
>
> So it is surprise that it exist :)
>
>
> 2014-05-20 13:36 GMT+04:00 Alexandra Borovytskaya :
>
>> MLO Android syncs automatically when user switches to another application
>> or lock the device. When user opens MLO app, auto sync is not started and
>> application waits when user starts the sync himself.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 1:41 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello how come the android app doesn't auto sync cloud changes
>>> available.  I constantly get a notification in the toolbar saying MLO Cloud
>>> changes available.  I have it set to poll every hour, but everytime that
>>> notification comes up I have to click it, go into the app, then hit the
>>> cloud button.  Seriously i don't want to do that, why cant it just sync on
>>> its own, it kinda defeats the purpose of paying for it over the wifi sync.
>>> Thanks
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Re: [MLO] inherit flags

[Lisa Stroyan]

Still the same.
On May 8, 2014 11:35 AM, "Joel Azaria"  wrote:

> I see this request is pretty old - is this still the same or been
> implemented?
>
> Specifically I would like to inherit Star from a folder to tasks created
> within it (from RTE or otherwise).
> The workarounds of specifying manually are not very convenient when
> creating tasks on mobile (android) especially.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:39:35 AM UTC-4, fant wrote:
>>
>> hi,
>> is it possible to tweak mlo this way, that a new task (e.g. via RTE)
>> has automatically a dedicated flag?
>> - jens
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Re: [MLO] Re: Need help - MLO Desktop filename changed, added date/time stamp and the word 'conflict'

[Lisa Stroyan]

I ran into something similar recently. The problem was that I was syncing
through the cloud, but I was using the same file on a new computer, synced
through Syncplicity. I may even have had both open at one time.

My solution is that each computer has different files and both sync via
cloud.
On May 7, 2014 2:53 PM, "Joel Azaria"  wrote:

> Thank you Andrey.  I got reply from email support.
>
> Yes, it seems to be sync software I use with my NAS (in effect similar to
> dropbox).  Not sure why it errored.   Has been being used this way for many
> months w/o issue but I will keep an eye on it.
>
> On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:37:47 PM UTC-4, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) wrote:
>>
>> Joel,
>>
>> It was not MLO who renamed your file. It looks like software similar to
>> Google Drive or DropBox has renamed it due to a conflict.
>> Do you sync your MLO file with DropBox? Do you change them in one place
>> while it is open in other place? This maybe the reason of the conflict.
>>
>> Andrey.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 6:03:02 PM UTC+3, Joel Azaria wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Upon shutting down and reopening my MLO desktop just now it did not
>>> auto-open my .ml file as usual.
>>>
>>> When I went to go open the file manually I noticed the file name changed
>>> adding the following "_computername_May-07-104758-2014_Conflict" to the
>>> file name (where 'computername' = my computer's name and the rest is a
>>> timestamp).   When I opened the file MLO asked me to acknowledge that the
>>> file had 'moved' and I that knew why it had 'moved' which I did.
>>>
>>> What is the cause of this conflict?  Why didn't I get a conflict
>>> resolution box if there were conflicts to resolve and why did it rename my
>>> file (instead of making a backup/copy, etc)?
>>>
>>> And how do I find the 'conflicts' and how do I fix?
>>>
>>> Please advise asap.
>>>
>>> thank  you.
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Re: [MLO] Review View

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It may be that you have a file from an older version that didn't include
this view. I don't have a "review" view either, but when I create a new
file I do see one there. You could create a new MLO data file and export
that view.


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> I do not see a Review View under my Outline.  Does this need to be created
> manually?
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Re: [MLO] sorting subtasks

[Lisa Stroyan]

There is an optional "recursively to all subtasks" option at the bottom of
the dialog box. This is under "Advanced – –>Sort subtasks".


On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Yury S. Chistyakov wrote:

> But this sorting (through "Sorting" dialog) seems to work only for the
> first level of the outline, does it?
>
>
> 2014-04-21 4:20 GMT+04:00 JoeT :
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>> Gotcha. No, that makes sense. Than you again for taking the time to
>> respond to me.
>>
>> Have a nice week.
>>
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Re: [MLO] Re: Scrolling on Win8.1 touch screen

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I may have misspoke… I know I tried it on my touchpad not sure I tried it
on the screen itself. I don't have it handy at the moment.

Probably the best thing to do is to get someone who's on the beta group to
report it using the JIRA system.
On Apr 22, 2014 5:45 AM, "Karl" 
wrote:

> Hi Lisa, i just tried to scroll the other way on my Dell Venue 8 and it
> does NOT work. Also tried it on my Surface Pro and it doesn't scroll.  It
> such a important feature for all touchscreen devices now. It makes using
> MLO on a tablet running windows impossible without a mouse, which defeats
> the purpose of a tablet.  Can we request this feature?
>
> Other than that I love MLO!
>
> On Sunday, April 20, 2014 2:24:55 AM UTC+10, robisme (Olivier R) wrote:
>>
>> It seems to be a 4th post on this thread, but it is not displayed.
>> I've just received my new Dell Venue 11 Pro, and the scroll effectively
>> doesn't work on the touch screen. Worst, it doesn' work neither with the
>> touhpad of the optional keayboard, I have to plug a mouse.
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> Le mercredi 16 avril 2014 04:34:37 UTC+2, Lee Zaretsky a écrit :
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, that did not work either.  Using two fingers the screen
>>> did not move, nor did a task drag and drop.  Nothing seems to work, unless
>>> there is a configuration setting that allows for touch screen scrolling.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a suggestion?
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 14, 2014 9:18:40 AM UTC-5, robisme (Olivier R) wrote:

 I'm also interested because I will have a tablet soon.
 Did you try scrolling with 2 fingers in case?

 Olivier

 Le vendredi 11 avril 2014 18:38:56 UTC+2, Lee Zaretsky a écrit :
>
> Apologize if this has been asked and answered already, but I've not
> seen such a response.  I have a Win8.1 system with MLO running nicely in
> desktop mode.  I'd like to be able to scroll the screen up/down with the
> flick of my finger, but when I do so, this ends up moving a task rather
> than just scrolling.  Is there a way to disable drag and drop of tasks, so
> that I can easily scroll the screen??
>
> Lee
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Re: [MLO] Urgent vs Important (revisited)

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Very cool idea, and I like that you can easily reconfigure how urgent of a
view you want, though I'm not sure I can give up the ease of making urgent
tasks with a starwondering what to do on a mobile platform to change
dates quickly also.
On Apr 22, 2014 5:44 AM, "Simon Dodds"  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> It occurred to me recently that there are so many Omnifocus users out
> there that have blogged about their setups - and since both OF and MLO are
> practically identical in functionality (although MLO is much better at
> setting up task views/"perspectives"!) it makes sense to look there to see
> what we can apply to MLO.
>
> I stumbled across this great article -
> http://colterreed.com/tracking-urgent-and-important-tasks-in-omnifocus/ -
> where the Eisenhower matrix is presented in such a clever way that I had to
> share it here.
>
> The logic is so simple:
>
>- important = star
>- urgent = due in next X days
>
>
> So here's the MLO setup I use to make this all work:
>
>- Show available actions, include closed contexts
>- Hide actions belonging to closed or suspended projects, and those
>with incomplete dependencies & subtasks
>- Show all tasks that are starred OR due in the next X days (i use 7)
>- Sort by Starred, then Due, then Start
>
> It has since become THE default view for me on MLO  - try it out.
>
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Re: [MLO] Outlook sync issue

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It's been a while since I have used Outlook sync, but I think you can
specify a view to sync, and just not show folders in that view. Take a look
at the Outlook Sync options.


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> I'm experimenting some issue while syncing with Outlook.
>
> Folder are send to Outlook.
> Is it correct? In older version of MLO it doesn't seem to have that
> behaviour
>
> For example: in MLO I've this structure
>
> FOLDER
>task 1
>task 2
>
> and I'd like that TASKS are synced with Outlook, not folder (that are no
> task)
> Instead, I find both task and folder in Outlook list, and this is a bit
> confusing
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Re: [MLO] Re: Inbox

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I'm glad it was helpful! Here's another trick. On Windows, or If you have a
mobile device that supports creating your own views, you can define your
own version of the inbox view that excludes tasks that have attributes that
indicate those tasks have been processed . this view becomes " new tasks
that are urgent to decide about" . Kind of like a pile of bills  separated
out from the paper inbox because the paper inbox has gotten too big . :-)

For example, you can have a view that shows any task that is in the inbox
that does not have a context, or any task that does not have a star. Then,
you can add all of your tasks to the inbox and once you add the
context/star or whatever attribute you choose to indicate that you don't
need to see it in that new view anymore, and the task will disappear from
that view . You will still want to clean out the regular inbox on a regular
basis, but this can eliminate the clutter from your daily view of it.

I've also sometimes used the opposite approach, which is to force the inbox
tasks into my daily view so that I have to move the tasks to elsewhere in
the tree . But when life gets crazy this sometimes gets overwhelming enough
to reduce my use of MLO, which is not a good thing. Right now all of my
house remodel tasks are in the inbox, but I'm working out of my active
Starred view.

I guess the tricky balance is to find a way that keeps us using the program
and yet also supports good long-term habits. I've come to think of evolving
our systems as a good thing, because even if it doesn't improve the system
all that much, at least for me it energizes my thinking .
On Mar 24, 2014 6:03 AM, "John Cesta"  wrote:

> Thanks. The article by Lisa helped a lot. I appreciate it.
>
> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:28:53 PM UTC-4, John Cesta wrote:
>>
>> What r some ways of getting tasks out of the inbox? I see them accumulate
>> there n
>>
>> Thanks
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Re: [MLO] Outlook task sync does not sync Notes

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Did you look for advanced options and see if you can map that field? It's
been years since I used the Outlook sync but I remember something like this.
On Mar 21, 2014 9:05 AM, "Brian Cohen"  wrote:

> I trying to use Outlook task sync, but any Task notes in Outlook 2010 are
> not syncing over to MLO.
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Re: [MLO] Just Purchased - Free Version Upgrade Yes/No

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In short, there are not. Any hints, that is.

On Mar 20, 2014 5:07 AM, "Cass"  wrote:
>
> are there any 'clues' available that would indicate when this upgrade
will likely happen...?
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Re: [MLO] Problems Synchronization

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Are you sure you don't have to similarly named cloud files, and the two
devices aren't syncing to a different file? BTDT...
On Mar 20, 2014 5:07 AM,  wrote:

> Hi,
> I am having serious problems syncing with the cloud. basically the problem
> is that it will not sync. I am using MLO on my Ipad. I sync to the cloud
> and it tells me that the sync is complete. I then set up a sync on the desk
> top and set it to be cloud to local and it says that it has synced but it
> hasn't actually update anything. It have set up a new cloud sync which it
> says it will save under Tools/sync but nothing appears there. No idea what
> to do next.
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Re: [MLO] Re: How to set amount of time for completion of a task - not a due date.

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At one point I think I may have solved that issue by having the template
task recur once, in your example, two weeks after the task is completed .
By completing the task after creating it from the template , the lone
recurrence would be updated appropriately . It's been a while so I don't
remember the details.
On Mar 19, 2014 11:49 AM, "FischerPhoto"  wrote:

> Hi again
> Am I to assume that wen I create a "new task from template" from this
> template that I will need to change the duration of the parent task to
> reflect 2 weeks from that time that i am creating that new task? If so, is
> there anything else I will need to do besides renaming it?
> I'm also assuming that it can't be made to happen automatically to enter
> today's date from the time I am creating it , correct?
>
> Thanks!
> Jon
>
> On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:18:06 AM UTC-4, FischerPhoto wrote:
>>
>> Gotcha Dwight. Makes a lot of sense. And again thanks so much for that in
>> depth step by step instructions on how to solve that problem. And for
>> taking the time to figure it out.  I'm surprised that I was actually able
>> to follow it and make it work. Glad that is now available for anyone to use.
>>
>> Best
>> Jon
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:03:28 PM UTC-4, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Jon. Flattering offer but no thanks.  Please go ahead and post
>>> whatever you want to know on the forum. If I think I have expertise and I
>>> find it interesting I will answer., when I get around to it.
>>>
>>> Private phone convo would have a few problems:
>>> I'm less comfortable on the phone
>>> I like to test my answer before publishing it
>>> I want to spend time on this kind of thing when it's convenient for me.
>>> If I figure out something useful I want to document it where everyone
>>> can see it.
>>>
>>> If you have not asked Lisa you should.  She knows a lot and might be
>>> interested.
>>> -Dwight
>>> -Dwight
>>> Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2
>>>
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, FischerPhoto  wrote:

 Dwight, I don't know if you'll get this but do you have any interest in
 having a phone call with me about this? There are way's that I would love
 to tweak my whole system to make it work for me. And I think you have the
 answers and I think I need a bit (understatement) of handholding. Maybe I
 can pay you for your for your time.  I'd be happy to .. Thoughts?
 Thanks!

 Jon
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>
> OK, I think I have this. It uses a technique that I call "sliding
> schedules." - I use them when I want to be able to do a chore late without
> having to try to catch up afterwards. When one task is late the following
> tasks are all automatically pushed back. It looks like the same technique
> could be used if you finish a ta sk early, to push up all of the 
> subsequent
> tasks.
>
> There are a lot of steps because I'm writing this so it could be
> followed by people who are at different levels of MLO expertise.
>
> 1. Jon, if I understand correctly, you set up another set of these
> tasks whenever you engage with a new client. So I would suggest setting
> this up in a hidden branch called "templates" and then using "new from
> template" for each new client.
>
> 2. Create a parent task, with subtasks representing all of the tasks
> you will need to complete.
>
> 3. Make sure all of the subtasks have "inherit parent dates" set.
>
> 4. Give the parent task start and end dates that represent the
> duration (time to complete) for each of your tasks.
>
> 5. Be sure that "complete tasks in order" is set for the parent.
>
> 6. In the task attributes of the parent, click "recurrence:none" to
> bring up the task recurrence window
>
> 7. Set the recurrence pattern to "daily" and select "regenerate new
> task ___ days after each task is completed." Fill in the blank with the
> number of days you want to have to complete each step (14 for two weeks)
>
> 8. Set Start Date for when you want the first task to start, and Due
> Date for the date you want it to be done, in this case two weeks later.
> Check lead time to ensure that the interval came out to what you wanted.
>
> 9 Leave "End Occurrences" set to "No end date." - if you want this set
> of instructions to self destruct after a single use you can select "end
> after" but be sure that the number you type in is equal to the total 
> number
> of subtasks.
>
> 10. Click the "advanced Options" button to bring up the Task
> Recurrence Advanced Options window.
>
> 11. If you are going to use this set of instructions just once, select
> "disable automatic reset" - if you will use them multiple times select
> "Reset all subtasks to uncompleted, if all subtasks are completed."
>
> 12. Comp

Re: [MLO] I check hide branch in do do but I still see the items in the to do list

[Lisa Stroyan]

That means that your to do list has been set to a view that includes
inactive tasks. Check what view and definition you are using.
On Mar 18, 2014 11:09 AM, "FischerPhoto"  wrote:

> is there something else to check or do?
> thanks!!
> Jon
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Re: [MLO] Does Outlook Sync settings in a local .ml file sync to MLO Cloud

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I'm am pretty sure they are not synced.


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> Question, if on one Windows machine, I have Outlook Sync enabled, and I
> also have MLO Cloud sync going.  On the 2nd Windows machine, will I see the
> Outlook sync settings in it's local .ml file?
>
> I actually hope the answer is no, as I only want the Outlook sync to
> happen on one client/.ml file.
>
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Re: [MLO] Feature: Hide task in To-Do until ...

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Actually in that case you don't have to change it manually. The start date
will track with recurrence when it is completed.

So, suppose you have a task, "Water plants every week", due Sunday at 6pm,
and the reminder is for Sunday at 3pm.. If you set the start date and time
also to Sunday 3pm, and then you complete this week's task, both the
reminder and the Start date/time will be moved to the next Sunday at 3pm,
and the task will not be active until then. (And, the to-do list by default
lists only active tasks). If you only set the Start date and not time, it
will show up active every Sunday with no time set.

If I had time to think about your proposed options I would probably argue
against them. Hide-in-todo is currently a static property of a task. It
would be confusing to combine this with dynamic properties. However, I
would suggest it could be added to the proposed (but not promised or
addressed by developers) automation idea that gets proposed every once in a
while, where the user can say, "When X, then Y". There could be, "When
reminder time hit, turn off Hide-in-todo". But I like start dates better
because they are designed to be dynamic.



On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Mikhail Marukhin wrote:

> I have periodical tasks with reminder and manually change start date is
> not very useful :)
>
> четверг, 6 марта 2014 г., 19:11:54 UTC+7 пользователь Dwight Arthur
> написал:
>>
>> Hi, Mikhail. If you set the start date and time for a task to the same
>> value as your reminder date and time, the task would be hidden in any to-do
>> list that shows active tasks. Would that take care of this issue for you?
>> -Dwight
>> Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2014, Mikhail Marukhin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> It would be nice to have new option to hide task in todo until reminder.
>>>
>>> Could you add 2 new options to "Setup Reminder" dialog:
>>>
>>>1. Hide task in To-Do list until date of remind
>>>2. Hide task in To-Do list until remind time
>>>
>>> This settings handling should be similar as "Hide the Branch in To-Do"
>>> setting that we have in the task.
>>> "Hide the Branch" works permanently but these options should hide tasks
>>> temporarily.
>>>
>>> It would be very useful to minimize list of items in To-Do cause these
>>> tasks will be alerted for me in needed time.
>>> Advanced view filtering is not so useful because it allows hide or show
>>> all tasks with reminder but some flexibility is needed.
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Re: [MLO] Re: Sync warning: Too many changes!

[Lisa Stroyan]

Every once in a while when I sort my Active Starred tasks (about 20) from
Android I will get a warning upon next sync that I've modified 240 or so
tasks. It's strange but I've taken to going ahead and allowing it to sync,
and I don't see any discrepancies when I do.

However last month I had one that was much higher...tried to stop it from
syncing, but it synced on exit anyway (I think...my memory is spotty but I
posted exact steps to the beta forum). Somehow a bunch of old, deleted
tasks came back. It's possible I screwed up and synced with an old cloud
file, I guess. I restored from backup, installed a different (standard
instead of beta) version on Android, and it was OK. Never finished tracking
it down.

Do let us know if you figured out what happened!


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Grant  wrote:

> I get this too once in a while, and in my case its usually something like
> adding a context to everything under my ' work'  tree.  I bet you would get
> the same if you changed the name of a context, etc.  Or there is the small
> chance you opened an older file (copy) on your PC, etc..
>
> That being said, if I have any doubt, I do just what Dwight instructs, and
> it is pretty easy and quick to do, given the piece of mind it give you
> about not totally messing up everything.
>
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Re: [MLO] Re: templates from a new user

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Here's my use model (probably has changed some since I wrote it) which may
be what Steve is referring to. Use what works, modify the rest!

http://stroyan.net/lisasblog/2012/mylifeorganized/

(Yes, still planning to write a book one of these days but life has been
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Steve Gledhill wrote:

> Good question Don. I had the same thoughts when I started. I chose MLO to
> support my GTD 'habit' and chose the GTD but, even now, I'm not sure how
> much of my configuration is based on the template, how much is native MLO
> and how much is my configuration..
>
> I followed some guidance on this forum from someone whou used the goals
> and stars to identify a time scale / priority for instance.
>
> My system is a bit of each I suppose. It's not ideal, and I need to
> simplify I think. I'd almost like to start again so that I could understand
> my set up better!
>
> Don't get me wrong, I'm loving MLO and it works well for me. I just think
> I've messed around with it too much and confused myself!
>
>
> On Thursday, 13 March 2014 12:47:53 UTC, don wrote:
>>
>> When I opened MLO for the very first time, I was confronted with template
>> choices which I didn't expect.  I have tried to find out more about them in
>> the user guide, but can't find anything.  What are they, and how do they
>> affect how I use MLO going forward??
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Re: [MLO] Re: What year was MyLIfeOrganized first released?

[Lisa Stroyan]

Wasn't Andrey going to take the beta team on vacation...where was it? He
posted some beautiful pictures.

Oh, shoot, wrong list. S

:)


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:23 PM, pottster  wrote:

> I think it was 2004-08-01 version 1.0.03.
>
> So, this year will be the 10th Anniversary! Any plans for celebration
> Andrey?
>
>
> On Wednesday, 29 January 2014 22:00:24 UTC, Holmes245 wrote:
>>
>> Sorry if this seems a bit random but I was curious what year Andrey first
>> released MLO? I discovered it in 2008 or 2009, I think but it was at
>> version 3 already so I was curious to know what year it was released.
>>
>> Joel
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Re: [MLO] Question about the default "Inbox"

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The problem with that, I think, is syncing with mobile devices. It would
add complexity (for the developer) if each mobile version gets to name it's
own inbox, and the sync software would have to translate on the way out and
then back in. For example, on Android if I create a task in "My_Inbox" and
then sync to a desktop which as Inbox named, "Collect" -- what task is the
parent of this task while in the cloud? Maybe it could have a special ID or
something, but it might also be confusing to end users.


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 1:37 AM, jeromeg  wrote:

> Thanks Dwight, that makes sense. But I think it would also make sense to
> have an option somewhere to enable or not a global inbox and to choose its
> name.
>
> --
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>
> Jerome
>
> On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:32:36 AM UTC+1, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
>> You cannot stop MLO from creating a top level folder named  but
>> you don't have to use it. You are free to create a top level folder named
>> Collect. It's hard to impossible to modify the included view "Inbox" but
>> nothing stops you from creating another view called "collect" and showing
>> the tasks in your Collect folder.  Sometimes MLO will deposit new tasks
>> into the Inbox. Some of the things that cause that are:
>>
>> 1. Hitting the big red "new task" button while in the  folder
>>
>> 2. Using Rapid Task Entry while the *P*arent... field contains \
>>
>> 3. Emailling new tasks to the "MLO by Email" address defined in the cloud
>> sync setup
>>
>> There are probably others. But you don't have to do any of these things.
>> For example, you could type \Collect in the RTE *P*arent... box
>>
>>
>>
>> To sum up, you cannot get rid of  but you can have both Collect
>> and  and use Collect instead of Inbox for everything that matters.
>>
>> -Dwight
>>
>>
>>
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>> Behalf Of *jeromeg
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2014 6:44 PM
>> *To:* mylifeo...@googlegroups.com
>>
>> *Subject:* [MLO] Question about the default "Inbox"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm back to MLO after a few years during which I tried several other
>> tools...
>>
>>
>>
>> I've a basic question for which I couldn't find an answer in the
>> documentation nor in the faq :
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a workspace named "Process" that just display the default view
>> named "Inbox"
>>
>> Whenever I switch to this workspace, if I don't already have a top-level
>> folder named "" it is automatically created, but I want my inbox to
>> have a different name, e.g. "Collect".
>>
>>
>>
>> Can I disable this behaviour or change the name of the default inbox to
>> something of my liking?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers  /jerome
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Re: [MLO] Position lost in "Active by Context"

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It doesn't seem intuitive to me to go to the last context each time,
especially since you cannot sort your contexts other than alphanumerically.
Shouldn't it at least go to the *first* context? But I would expect that
since the selection is saved, information about which context the task was
being shown under could be saved too.


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Stéph  wrote:

> Can you provide some more detail? I've just tried the following:
>
> I've got my first tab locked to an outline view and my second tab set up
> as a flat, to do list (mimicing MLO3 layout).
>
> In the outline view, I select an item with multiple contexts.
> When I switch to the to do view, set up as 'Active by Context', the item
> is shown under the last context in its list of contexts.
> If I select the same item under the first context in its list, then go
> back to the outline view, then select a different item, then go back to the
> original item, then view it in the 'active by context' list, it's shown
> under the last of its contexts again.
>
> The above makes sanse to me, but is that an example of the way you're
> navigating around MLO?
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Re: [MLO] Collaboration using Cloud

[Lisa Stroyan]

This sounds like a great solution. I wonder, though, do you have to have
the secondary file open for it to sync, or are you using the command line
option in the scheduler, or am I missing something?

Lisa


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Eberhard  wrote:

> What you can do is the following ...
>
> Have your "main file" including "Personal" and "Work" and used it as
> before (sync it to cload or whatsoever).
>
> Then create a second (additional) file and sync only the branch "Work"
> between your "main file" and that "second" file.
>
> That second file could then by syncronized to the cloud and shared with
> your co-workers.
>
> That would at least be a work around unless we're probably getting "branch
> sync to cload" one day.
>
> Eberhard
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 4:00 PM, bobpeak  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been using MLO for a year or so personally and use the cloud sync. I
>> am very interested in buying additional copies for work colleagues so that
>> we can all collaborate via the Cloud service but cannot see a way to keep
>> my personal stuff separate from the info I wish to share. Currently I have
>> two top level tasks called "Personal" and "Work" with all my sub tasks
>> below them, I'd obviously only like to share the "Work" task.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bob.
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Re: [MLO] Can I sync MLO to my calendar?

[Lisa Stroyan]

No, I've not heard of a way to do this, but you can add a task to your
calendar on Android by using "Share". They will not be synced, however.


On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, FischerPhoto wrote:

> I know it has been a feature request.
> thanks
> Jon
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Re: [MLO] Tabs of tasks of a folder

[Lisa Stroyan]

See if "TopLevelProjectName" is what you are looking for in your advanced
search.


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Dwight Arthur  wrote:

> Hi. There may be a better answer, but I wanted to ask if you considered
> turning your subfolders into ordinary subtasks, with the tasks inside them
> becoming sub-subtasks. Advantage: not sure but I imagine that your tab will
> show everything you want. Disadvantage: at some point you will have to
> check the completion box on the tasks that used to be folders.
>
> -Dwight
>
>
>
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> *Subject:* [MLO] Tabs of tasks of a folder
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I'm creating projects inside folders. And inside these folders, I may have
> other folders, containing tasks.
>
> I'm using tabs to easily navigate between the projects.
>
> I created a new tab and setup an advanced rule: ProjectName is
> MyProjectName
>
>
>
> My problem is: I can see all the tasks that are in MyProjectName.
>
> I can also see the directories that are under MyProjectName.
>
> But I can't see the tasks that are in these folders...
>
>
>
> Any idea of how I can handle that ? Without having to use contexts or
> other things.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MLO] Collaboration using Cloud

[Lisa Stroyan]

I think what you want is a file that is shared with others (work), and a
different file that represents the part that is not shared (home), which
you would sync to a different profile.

However, I can't remember if you can sync different profiles to different
cloud accounts on Android. I think you can but you might need to test. If
you share the cloud account you wouldn't be able to stop others from seeing
your personal file and would defeat the purpose of separating the file in
the first place.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Dwight Arthur  wrote:

> Hi, Roberto. Your original request referred to opening two files, and the
> multiple instance feature works well for that. If your objective is to open
> one file in two windows, I don't have any suggestions.
> -Dwight
> -Dwight
> Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2014, Roberto Penzo  wrote:
>>
>> Sorry Dwight: I tried the double instance feature but opening the same
>> file on both instances seems to be not allowed.
>> Any suggestion?
>>
>> Il giorno giovedì 9 gennaio 2014 00:47:59 UTC+1, Dwight Arthur ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Hi Joel,
>>> On Android, no. But you can quickly switch by going to the MLO home page
>>> (usually by one press of the ESC button) and clicking the title bar at the
>>> to, to produce a list of available profile files.
>>>
>>> On Windows: yes. Open the Options window from the Tools Menu. Select the
>>> Behaviour page and check the checkbox for "allow multiple instances. Close
>>> the options window and without closing MLO, use the Windows start bar to
>>> start another instance of MLO. The two instances can display different
>>> views of the same file or they could display different files.
>>> -Dwight
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 6, 2014 7:04:28 PM UTC-5, Joel Azaria wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can you open 2 files in MLO at the same time?
>>>> What about on Android?
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [MLO] when closed by android the app doesn't remember its state and opens on the main screen next time

[Lisa Stroyan]

All good catches :-) for this one try looking at MLO Android setting  keep
in memory . MLO will start at home after os kills it. I agree that keeping
state would be a good enhancement though

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> Hello,
> When closed by android the app doesn't remember its state and opens on the
> main screen next time.
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Re: [MLO] Why my Cloud Sync Account has been disabled?

[Lisa Stroyan]

Thanks, Andrey, that makes much more sense.

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On Jan 14, 2014 4:44 AM, "Andrey Tkachuk (MLO)" 
wrote:

> Let me step in here since there is a misunderstanding with Cloud account
> disabling policy.
>
> If there are number of incorrect password attempts (6-10) the cloud is
> disabled *temporary* for several minutes to prevent massive password
> guessing attempts. The more incorrect attempts the more minutes set for
> this delay.
>
> The cloud account is disabled permanently only if user *deletes* it in
> the web interface.
>
> It is possible to restore deleted cloud account during several days after
> user deletes it (to prevent accidental deletion). After this time the
> account maybe deleted without possibility to restore it.
>
> Andrey.
>
> On Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:31:02 PM UTC+2, Lisa S wrote:
>>
>> Two incorrect attempts and then locked out seems very conservative for an
>> application like MLO. Even my bank has three chances, and then there is a
>> phone number that can be called. I'd like to see a way to configure this in
>> the cloud settings or extend the number of changes. I have a lot of
>> passwords, I often have to try several if I don't have LastPass handy.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Alexandra Borovytskaya 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it was disabled due to 2 invalid password attempts. I have enabled
>>> it, please try again now.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:10 AM, 王旭波  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why my Cloud Sync Account has been disabled?
>>>>
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Re: [MLO] How to switch off reminder on desctop version

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Interesting question. Maybe I missed something, but  I don't think there is
a way to turn off all reminders even if a task has a reminder. I could see
the value, though, if one wants the reminders to only pop up on a mobile
device.




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Re: [MLO] Re: A counter of active tasks within each tab

[Lisa Stroyan]

I think for this to get support we need to understand it better. Tabs are
not limited to active tasks, so how would this be defined for non-active
tabs? For example, a planning tab, showing all Projects, or a
completed-tasks view, or the Starred view -- should it show 30 tasks but
only count the active ones? Can the user specify what to count? It's true
that "Active" has special meaning in MLO, but only for tasks themselves,
not for views or workspaces.

If really Active is all that is desired, this could be an option per
workspace setup. A checkbox, "Count Active Tasks". This way at least we
wouldn't be stuck with meaningless numbers on the other workspaces.

However, I'll warn you, I suspect this feature would require significant
(though perhaps warranted) changes to the MLO underlying design, because
Workspace updates are "pulled" as far as I know - they don't update
contents until you activate them and even then when something changes in
the background, they only refresh when you switch back to them or change a
task while already in the tab. So a count wouldn't be update without a
focus change AFAIK.




On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:20 AM, robert roszak wrote:

>
>
> Sorry to answer myself but it seems there's no such function for the time
> being,.. I created a feature suggestion and if you like the idea, you can
> vote for it here:
>
>
> http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-general/suggestions/5347572-a-counter-of-active-tasks-in-other-tabs
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Re: [MLO] Why my Cloud Sync Account has been disabled?

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Two incorrect attempts and then locked out seems very conservative for an
application like MLO. Even my bank has three chances, and then there is a
phone number that can be called. I'd like to see a way to configure this in
the cloud settings or extend the number of changes. I have a lot of
passwords, I often have to try several if I don't have LastPass handy.


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> it, please try again now.
>
>
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>> Why my Cloud Sync Account has been disabled?
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Re: [MLO] Wi-Fi sync - does it Synchronise tasks or Copy profiles?

[Lisa Stroyan]

I don't use Wifi sync but I'm pretty sure it's working well lately, and
provides task level sync. The one issue that has been raised that I can
remember is that syncing two different mobile devices to the same file
(maybe the same computer) requires re-pairing ie, doesn't really work easy.


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Wallace Gilbraith wrote:

> The screen calibration on my old Palm TX is starting to fail, so I’m
> moving over to Android, on a HTC One, now running Android 4.3 (and HTC
> Sense 5.5).
>
> My desktop setup is Outlook 2003 service pack 3, running in Windows XP 5.1
> with service pack 3.
>
>
>
> I’ve been keen to find Android solutions to Outlook’s Calendar, Contacts
> and Tasks.
>
> My desktop is now using MLO for Windows Pro 4.2.1, and the Android is
> using MLO Pro 1.6.9. I paid for the Pro version so I can sync by wi-fi.
>
>
>
> I’d like to be able to
>
> Add Tasks on the desktop, for things I may need to do in the future,
>
> and at the same time
>
> Check off, or defer, or add, on the handheld, for the Tasks I’m completing
> at the moment
>
> And at the end of the day, synchronise my changes so both sides are
> updated.
>
>
>
> When syncing Outlook to Palm, any Tasks that have been changed on one side
> are updated on the other.
>
> Any Tasks that have been updated on both sides are duplicated, so I can
> review them, and keep the one I want.
>
>
>
> On the Wi-Fi Sync, the Android version offers two choices for dealing with
> conflicts, on the ‘both sides changed item’ option
>
> Apply server version
>
> Use local version
>
>
>
> From my Outlook/ Palm experience, I expect the MLO sync to merge the
> Windows and Android data, updating both sides for any changes made on the
> other, and only giving priority to one side in the event that the Same Task
> has been updated on both sides.
>
>
>
> However, rather than ‘Synchronising’, what seems to be happening is the
> entire *.mlo data file is simply Copied from one side to the other, in the
> specified direction.
>
>
>
> Can this be right, or am I missing something?
>
>
>
>
>
> I’ve had a look online for advice, and in Jun 212, ‘Dwight’ described the
> same situation, at
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/mylifeorganized/both$20sides$20changed$20item/mylifeorganized/7GeDqZjqQq0/DmMPq_q--QgJ
>
> It looks like I have to get real disciplined about syncing, after every
> single edit on either platform, maybe dozens of times a day.
>
>
>
> In Jun 2011, ‘yurkennis’ requested an improvement, at
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/mylifeorganized/both$20sides$20changed$20item/mylifeorganized/NTDsynZlgCk/nFDF5jA5E2IJ
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>
>
> I wonder, has any progress been made to add more functionality to the sync
> feature?
>
>
>
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Re: [MLO] Email directly to a certain project, and not the inbox

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I think I have a way to *almost* do what you want. First, practice your
task parsing by entering an item in the Inbox that ends in -toprjTEST
(where TEST is a project), no spaces I think. Position the cursor inside
the text and hit Alt-Enter. Does your task get moved?

Once you have this working, you should be able to hit Alt-Enter in the
tasks from the inbox to move them. Unfortunately I don't think you can
process multiple all at once.  But it still might be faster if you figure
out a way to have a template for your email with the suffix pre-loaded or
something. Let us know what you find.

Lisa

On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jacob Lindberg wrote:

> I'm a student whose attention are on 3 big things: a Course1, b Course 1,
> and c Own firm. Lets call each of these a *project*. When I clean my
> inbox, I find myself hitting *ctrl+m* and finding either a b or c very
> often. Very, very often. So I would really be in help of a email directly
> to this projects, i.e. not the inbox.
>
> Do any one have a tips for a workaround?
>
> Right now I use a naming rule, combined with Sort by caption, combined
> with flagging. Could go into more detail if needed.
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Re: [MLO] Incorrrect grouping by Due Date

[Lisa Stroyan]

I'm not seeing an image.


On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Mikhail Marukhin wrote:

> Check the following image. Grouping by Due Date works incorrectly.
> Here 4 tasks with Due Date = "in 3 days" and each shown in own group.
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Re: [MLO] Android - Home Screen - Can you customize which views show?

[Lisa Stroyan]

There is no way to do this, but when you are in a view, and want to switch
to another, you can tap the top bar and the view pulldown will allow
re-ordering of the views; put "Active Starred" at the top.

I think the same order is used by "All Views" (or is it called "More
views"?) from the home screen, so from the home screen try clicking that
and I think "Active Starred" will be the first one.


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Elizabeth Lindsay
wrote:

> I would prefer to have the "Active Starred" show instead of "Starred" on
> my Android phone's MLO home screen.  Is there a way to change which views
> show there?  Thank you!
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Re: [MLO] MLO Windows - Outline: Default Collapsed Tree?

[Lisa Stroyan]

This is not exactly what you are looking for but it might be helpful...do
you know about the function keys for collapse/expand all, all but selected,
and current? They are listed under the view menu.


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:05 AM, TahirXJO  wrote:

>
> Hi, in MLO-Win Outline View (or generally), if I make changes to a tree,
> MLO remembers how the tree structure appears.
>
> e.g. If I "move" a task to a branch, then move another task, the structure
> is remembered.
>
> Is there a way of choosing the view to default to completely Collapsed
> View each time I want to make a change.
>
> Having the choice to do default to this and then back to remembering the
> tree structure would be great too.
>
> Having both just makes different types of processing easier in either
> situation.
>
> Many thanks,
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Re: [MLO] Re: Collapse collapsing outline all tabs... what am I missing?

[Lisa Stroyan]

Also, I been noticing recently that when you create a workspace out of the
previous work space, there are things that are linked. If you truly wanted
a hierarchical view that did not follow your all tasks view, try creating
it from scratch. (Unfortunately I don't have time to test at the moment)

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On Dec 5, 2013 10:31 AM, "mlo_user_08"  wrote:

> Right on the nose, Thank You Kindly!
>
> Grouping by Parent brings back some structure to the view
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:35:25 AM UTC-8, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>
>> Hi, C.
>> When you talk about collapsing stuff in step 3, I assume that you are
>> talking about collapsing subtasks into their parent in a hierarchical view.
>> Most users would not see this collapsed view reflected in a view of today's
>> actions, because most to-do lists are not hierarchical and therefore cannot
>> be collapsed. Try setting the hierarchy filter to "No".
>> -Dwight
>> MLO Betazoid & Moderator
>> Via k@mail on sgn2
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2013, mlo_user_08  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:33:46 AM UTC-8, mlo_user_08 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if I changed something with the file, or if something changed
>>>> with the most recent builds, but the scenario is this:
>>>>
>>>> 1) I have (2) tabs. The first tab is the master outline, the second tab
>>>> is today's actions filtered out of the master outline.
>>>> 2) On the today's actions tab, I expand the view so I can see
>>>> everything on deck for the day.
>>>> 3) I go back to the master outline tab, then clean stuff up and
>>>> collapse so it's all neat and tidy.
>>>> 4) I go back over to the today's actions tab and all action items are
>>>> now collapsed.
>>>>
>>>> Is there some setting or filter that I'm missing or accidentally
>>>> enabled/disabled? I've been running this way for some time and as of 4.20
>>>> (now 4.2.1) it's been behaving this way...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any suggestions!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> C.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So... maybe this is working as designed?
>>>
>>> If so, any workarounds that anybody might be able to offer?
>>>
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Re: [MLO] Re: Feature Request - Complete Subtasks ..... in reverse order.

[Lisa Stroyan]

If you don't mind it being a tree you can do this by using insert subtask
hotkey for each new item. The last created will be the only active item.

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On Nov 26, 2013 12:25 PM, "Andrei"  wrote:

> Hello Andrey,
>
> I am searching for the same feature.
> Is this also possible in the latest version?
>
> Thanks.
>
> вторник, 25 декабря 2007 г., 9:11:27 UTC+2 пользователь Andrey Tkachuk
> (MLO) написал:
>>
>> >could there be an option to 'Complete Subtasks in order' but reverse the
>> order.
>> This is possible in 1.9.9-beta
>>
>> On Dec 3, 6:44 pm, "Steve Wynn" 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Guys,
>> >
>> > This is another strange request from me so I will try and explain the
>> logic a little.  In the Now Habit by Neil Fiore he covers the Reverse
>> Calendar for projects and goals etc. Now the reverse calendar is basically
>> just scheduling from the end point to the beginning, so for example:-
>> >
>> > Tidy Office - Fri
>> > |___ Hoover Office - Fri
>> > |___ Clean Desk - Thurs
>> > |___ Move printer - Wed
>> > |___ Clear rubbish - Wed
>> > |___ Move magazine and store - Tues
>> > |___ Clear desk   - Tues
>> > |___ Sort out Filing   - Mon
>> >
>> > So in essence you go up the tree, rather than down. Now I don't know if
>> this is possible or not, but could there be an option to 'Complete Subtasks
>> in order' but reverse the order. Last first.   Or some other way to flag
>> part of the Outline to go in reverse. Obviously I can work around this by
>> putting things in the right order. But it would be nice to have an option
>> of going up the structure as well as down, though I can appreciate this may
>> not actually be possible. But I just thought I would ask anyway :o)
>> >
>> > All the best
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > 'Nobody tests the depth of a river with both feet' - Ashanti Proverb
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Re: [MLO] Re: Feature Request: Option in Options to Show Parent Task in Todo List

[Lisa Stroyan]

Another option is to change the children to "hide in to-do", then the
parent shows up. What I do is put (+) in the parent's caption to indicate
to myself that there are children.

For tasks whose children accumulate over time, I create a sub parent and
mark it as hidden. I do wish there were a "hide children"option.

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On Dec 3, 2013 6:22 AM, "Yury S. Chistyakov"  wrote:

My usecase for this is as follows: inside the project there is some big
task. And I gradually write subtasks there. I know when I will do this big
task I need to look through all these small tasks. But I don't want to see
small tasks in to do list - only the parent with "Today" date, for instance.

So, it seems that the first solution is the one I'm looking for. Thanks for
another approach anyway!)


2013/12/2 MLO User 

> Another way to see the Parent in the to do list is to set it up as one of
> the columns.  Right click on the View bar where the headers are for the to
> do list and select Parent in the drop down list.  Also, when a task is
> selected in the to do list, the parent can be seen in the path shown
> between the tabs and the toolbar.  One of these methods might be an
> alternative to what you are trying to do.
>
> On Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:46:09 AM UTC-4, Toes_NZ wrote:
>>
>> as per my post here http://groups.google.com/
>> group/myLifeOrganized/browse_thread/thread/c984717d364305ab
>> this would be very useful. My current workaround is to duplicate the
>> parent task as the first child task so that it shows in the todo list.
>>
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Re: [MLO] TDL and MLO both have their place on my desktop? Differences?

[Lisa Stroyan]

I am only familiar with cloud sync, but switching between profiles seems
very straightforward there.

My comment about discussing platforms was directed at the developer but
it's moot now.

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On Nov 23, 2013 8:27 PM, "bs27975"  wrote:

> On Saturday, 23 November 2013 20:12:17 UTC-5, Lisa S wrote:
>
>> Two comments:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:31 PM, bs27975  wrote:
>>
>>> (Particularly given that the multiple file usefulness of the desktop app
>>> does not appear to have been carried through to the cloud / android, where
>>> a single monolithic file seems de rigeur.)
>>>
>>
>> The cloud and Android can support multiple profiles, and each profile can
>> correspond to a desktop file if you want, so I do think this is supported.
>>
>
> But not via local sync, and, as I remember my testing, switching profiles
> is painful. Which is to say, using multiple lists or switching lists is not
> as simple or as easy as on the desktop, let alone (in essence) simultaneous
> use.
> - sync is to the currently open list on the desktop, only. Not all lists
> all of the time.
>
> Perhaps achievable by multiple instances on Android? If such were even
> possible to program.
>
> Not that I'm entirely certain this is a deal breaker / how much this
> matters, it was more of an observation of a welcome desktop element that
> didn't carry through. Or at least not intuitively. I suspect this is more
> of a use / learning curve issue - since a task can be blessed as a project,
> and zoomed to a view wherein that project task looks like the root task
> (for the moment).
>
>
>>
>> Regarding discussion of competitors...I think the tradeoff is worth it.
>> You have enough happy users here that the number that would go investigate
>> and tell you either why MLO is better or how similar features could be
>> added to MLO (both of which can be useful to the dev team), is much higher
>> than the number that go switch. I think you can assume a pretty
>> sophisticated user base, that knows other ways to find other
>> software...just my thoughts!
>>
>> Sorry, not sure what you're saying here. Tradeoff of what, to what.
>
> I think you misunderstand (or I'm misunderstanding you, it feels like you
> are making both positive and negative points to such discussion):
>
> (a) this public group is the first point of presence for further info /
> help with mlo. It is where someone looking for a solution is going to come,
> first. Looking over the fence and asking the neighbour what they might know
> or have experienced.
> (b) It is this very user base that you talk about, which is to say, those
> that ultimately chose MLO over TDL, that know the answer, and the good
> solid reasons for making the choice they did.
>
> And that is what my question was: Why did you choose MLO over TDL? (i.e.
> Help me choose it too, or figure out why to choose it, or what solutions it
> brings to my party that the other does not.) [All such software is way too
> intensive to properly evaluate for oneself quickly - it means pouring one's
> life into it, and migration is always a headache, and using it for some
> months. 'Failed' trials are too painful and time expensive.It's prudent to
> ask such questions in order to keep the number of forays down. ]
>
> Which is all I have done.
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