Re: [Re: [newbie] New kernel and sound (or lack of)]
I have no clue on the numbers files, i am a begginer like you. I just lucked onto that wordperfect thing. Don't give up. When M$ goes belly up in a few years you'll be ahead of everyone else. Pliler Main Unit wrote: Thsnks, Luke I think for now, I am not going to try to do any installing, untill I can learn more about this beast. I may just give it up. BTw, I find a strange bin file on my C drive, numbers.bin , is this the LILO or do you know? If I decide to delete this OS, I would need to del thAt too. Thanks, Will - Original Message - From: Luke Vandervort [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] New kernel and sound (or lack of)] Pliler, I just installed WP from the cd-rom. It is named WordPerfect_Tar.Tar I could not get it to work either untill I copied it to disk and renamed it WordPerfect.tar.gz. Then I could unzip it into a directory and run the RUNME file. It installed with out a hitch. Pliler Main Unit wrote: Thanks Michael and all, Yes, in fact if you read all those numbers at boot, I found it. I tried installing WP , just now, under root of course, it just sat there and did nothing. Using KDE, I clicked the CDrom icon, (with the disk in the cd) and saw and read the readme file, but when I tried to do mandrake.run nothing. Ideas? Will - Original Message - From: Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] New kernel and sound (or lack of)] "Pliler Main Unit" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, How do you tell which version your Kernal is? I have the 5.3 rel of L-M but that doesn't mean anything as far as the Kernal, right? Will L-M 5.3 runs kernel 2.0.36, I believe... Michael Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Guide to configuring ATAPI CD-R for Mandrake
- Original Message - From: Roberto Angelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Guide to configuring ATAPI CD-R for Mandrake I would burn my CDs on Linux but with a IDE-CDRW as Yahama 4416 the common progs as cdwrite, cdrecord and Gcombust seem not works (and explain that I have to activate the IDE-SCSI emulation). After doing some thinking on this one it looks like even with the newer kernels, a recompile will be required enabling the scsi emulation to get stuff like CDRoast working with IDE drives (shame really). Does anyone know if there is a linux CDR program around that will support ide drives ?? If not, is there anyone out there who fancies doing a recompile of the kernel from a standard mandrake install (might as well wait until version 6), leaving all options as standard, but enable the scsi emulation with a view to producing an RPM for all the people who want scsi emulation but are afraid to do the recompile. I don't mind giving it a go myself as i'm really not shy of these things, but whenever i've done a kernel recompile in the past, lots of other things (mainly networking) have not come back up fully operational ;-(. Martin. Martin White [EMAIL PROTECTED] scritto: [SNIP]
Re: [Re: [newbie] New kernel and sound (or lack of)]
At 04:40 AM 5/17/99 -0400, you wrote: I have no clue on the numbers files, i am a begginer like you. I just lucked onto that wordperfect thing. Don't give up. When M$ goes belly up in a few years you'll be ahead of everyone else. Man, I want your crystal ballit's seeing the impossible. Stefan Dozier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [[newbie] Wordperfect 8 leaves mouse droppings]
On 16 May 1999, Michael Scottaline wrote: Sam Silverman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Mandrake RH 5.3. The system seems to be up and running fine. I installed WP 8 for Linux and the program runs fine except Where can one get WP8 for Linux? Is there a store it can be mailordered from...?
Re: [newbie] Re: Linux-Mandrake User Guide
Having just installed Mandrake 5.3 myself I can confirm that suggestions on partition sizes for disks would be nice. I originally went by a manual/how-to written by someone that had a multiGB HD with plenty of space. I was installing on a 540MB HD, for Linux only, and was guessing at partition size. After the first install failed to install all of Xfree86 libs and some important KDE stuff due to space constraints I learned my lesson. I created a root partition and a swap the second time. Disk Druid only helped me to name the partition. I had to figure out fdisk, not too different from MS fdisk. Second install went great, but in partitioning, setting the partition by the number of cylinders or sectors was confusing. How many MB in a cylinder? I saw one confusing reference to number of bytes times something gives bytes in cylinder. After that it was smooth sailing.This time "startx" actually did something. Played my first game of Kasteroids, cool. Philip W. Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest including ideal partition memory amounts for particular hard drive spaces (560MB, 1.2GB, etc. machines) and exactly what suggested partitions should be allocated. To the new user, this can be a confusing ordeal if they are not given the option for a workstation install and have to choose the custom option (provided that they do not have the knowledge of how to format a disk for unpartitioned space). Philip - Original Message - From: Michael Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] G'day All I have proposed the creation of a Linux-Mandrake User Guide to MandrakeSoft SA, this proposal has been accepted by them. Quite a bit of groundwork on the project has been done by me, but because of my limited knowledge of all aspects of Linux-Mandrake, I would like to invite all those of you out there who feel they can contribute, to contact me, and book their area of expertise on the "Mandrake User Support Thingie" MUST by adding a blank tip under the Linux Mandrake User Guide Topic at http://landofoz.apana.org.au/mandrake.html. This is not a very fast link so be patient, MUST is to be moved to a faster link in the near future. The idea is to provide and easy step by step guide on how to install Mandrake, connect to the Inetnet and set up the basics such as, FTP, Web, Email, Smb, Squid, and the like for the Frst Time and New User to Linux, all languages welcome. -- Michael Doyle Adelaide, South Australia http://landofoz.apana.org.au
Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade
James Capone wrote: When I reboot and try to run Linux with the new Kernel I get the following message Loading Linux. No signature file. Then it stalls Are you able to boot at all (with the old kernel)? If not, do you have a boot disk? Did you run /sbin/lilo after making the changes to lilo.conf? -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [[newbie] Wordperfect 8 leaves mouse droppings]
If you don't mind spending a little money, you can go to www.ccsoft.cc (Circadian software), and buy their Mandrake Powerpack at around $45. Bill Moshier -Original Message- From: M. Bull [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 10:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [[newbie] Wordperfect 8 leaves mouse droppings] On 16 May 1999, Michael Scottaline wrote: Sam Silverman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Mandrake RH 5.3. The system seems to be up and running fine. I installed WP 8 for Linux and the program runs fine except Where can one get WP8 for Linux? Is there a store it can be mailordered from...?
Re: [[newbie] Wordperfect 8 leaves mouse droppings]
I got mine from www.linuxcentral.com . You can also try www.lsl.com , www.cheapbytes.com , www.linuxmall.com or several others. I got the CD only, it has online help and manuals. It was only $1.99 and then you register it at the Corel website. I have not installed it yet, I just got Mandrake running. Rip "A mind is a terrible thing." -Original Message- From: M. Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [[newbie] Wordperfect 8 leaves mouse droppings] On 16 May 1999, Michael Scottaline wrote: Sam Silverman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Mandrake RH 5.3. The system seems to be up and running fine. I installed WP 8 for Linux and the program runs fine except Where can one get WP8 for Linux? Is there a store it can be mailordered from...?
Re: [newbie] Pppd dies unexpectedly
Steve Philp wrote:
Bela Lantos wrote:
Hi everyone,
Since I installed Mandrake 5.3 I have problem with pppd dying unexpectedly
because of timeout. Even though I increased timeout to 2 min, it still dies.
Snippety snip
Strange that, I can't even get kppp to work at all. I had to resort to a suite of
home grown shell scripts (Some of them 'borrowed from Debian :-)
Turn on debugging and see if anything obvious pops up. Check your log
files and see if anything is listed there when the connection is
dropped.
Debugging don't give me any info ('cept the last msg is starting pppd then
disconnect after a few mins - timeout?)
Do you need gpm? It doesn't sound like you're very comfortable at the
command line, so I'm wondering if it's even necessary for you to run
it. If you don't need it, turn it off.
Snip snippety snip snip
--Come to think of it, my mouse seems to have been causing xcrashes (PS2) when I
switch from shell to desktop - A device/resource busy error. Anyone else had this
problem? If so, maybe we could identify the trouble; I do use console a lot
therefore want to keep gpm.
More snipping
Linux on your personal machine IS NOT and will NEVER be like running
Windows. Windows allows you to be an end-user. No sense in worrying
about where you files are stored or how to configure your POP client to
retrieve your mail -- Windows will take care of that for you. Linux
forces you to be an administrator. This is a powerful system that
allows you to undertake tasks in a variety of ways. It's up to YOU to
make something of it.
--8
I know, fun isn't it ;-)
So quit stomping your feet and tossing a temper tantrum and ask for help
WITHOUT the "threats" to give up Linux. You'll get alot further.
--
Steve Philp
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Martin Barnard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Too much is not enough.
Re: [[newbie] Wordperfect 8 leaves mouse droppings]
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wordperfect 8 can be downloaded from www.corel.com (jump to their Linux section). I got mine from eBay on a CD with Mandrake Red Hat 5.3 Sam
Re: [newbie] Re: Linux-Mandrake User Guide
Lorne Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snip snip Another thing - if Mandrake is 100% compatible with RedHat and KDE as they claim, why is upgrading to KDE 1.1.1 so hard? KDE's install script doesn't work. That's not compatibility! Lorne. I believe there was a post from someone at Mandrake here a couple of days ago that explained this to us. He said that the Redhat RPMs install to a different directory than where Mandrake put them in their release. Previously Redhat did not install KDE at all, but Mandrake did so as a default. On an upgrade you could install KDE where the RPM puts it and then create a symlink from there to the old location. You could also obtain the source from KDE direct and place them in the current file location then do your install (likely you will have to compile). The Mandrake ver. 6.0 is supposed to take all this into account and put stuff where Redhat does to remain compatible. If you go to Mandrake 6.0 most likely you will have to do a full reinstall if your not sure what your doing. Me, I'm sticking with the default install of 5.3 for a while till I get the hang of things or run into a major problem. This is all a learning experience for me as I had little exposure to Unix in college. Only a few programming classes. Rip "A mind is a terrible thing."
[newbie] kernel update configure
OK, here goes...I'm jumping into Linux. Looks like an interesting operating system and besides, I think MS is at least arrogant and perhaps monopolistic, so we need to find something better. I am not an administrator and never will be, but I would like to use and learn the system as I believe the future may belong to an open system. I bought a copy of Redhat 5.2 at my local CompUSA. I ordered a copy of Linux-Mandrake from cheap bytes. No manuals from cheap bytes, living up to their name. I tried (on a 3.1 gig, freshly formatted hard drive with nothing else on it) to install Redhat. I could only get as far as the grey screen. I re-installed twice. Same deal. No one could help me get a windows interface running. So, I tried Mandrake and lo and behold, I got xwindows running right away. Three cheers for Mandrake and BOO to you, redhat! Wouldn't even answer my e-mail after I paid for their system. The screen works (well, almost. It is shrunken at 1024 X 768 but it works), the sound card talks to me and makes all of the .wav noises. With the help of some paid support, I was able to get on ibm.net, my ISP. Still can't get kppp to get me on the internet, but I'll figure that out someday. Now I have a redhat manual and a mandrake system. Nothing seems to match up, although Mandrake is supposed to be compatible with redhat. Sure... So now, I think I would like to upgrade my kernel (now that I know what one is) and have been studying all the information available at several locations. I downloaded and printed out the detailed instructions. I then check to find my kernel and guess what? It is not where it is supposed to be, at least not according to the documentation. Mine is in /proc/sys/kernel not /usr/src/linux. So much for the directions. I suppose that is where it is normally found under Mandrake 5.3, which is (I now know) running on my computer. It would really be nice if there was some information somewhere that would make some of these things available. I am not lazy and would gladly look up the proper information, but it sure is frustrating to try and find something; when everyone that is already using linux assumes that anyone just starting must already know all of this stuff! I have news for you. We DON'T! But we want to support the concept and would like to learn. Please be patient with our ignorance. Most of us are not stupid, just ignorant. I happen to have an airline transport type rating in the 747-400. If you came up in the cockpit with me, I could make you look pretty stupid if I wanted to, but that wouldn't make me any smarter, so I would not do that. enough said... How, please, does one upgrade from 2.0.36 to the new 2.2 kernel under mandrake 5.3? If I do this, will I destroy my cofiguration for getting on the internet through control panel, network, interfaces and highlighting and clickin on my ppp0 interface? Thanks for any help [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Kernel upgrade (long)
I just finished upgrading the kernel on my machine to 2.2.9. The gory details are below, but here's the executive summary: (1) make _sure_ you have a _working_ bootdisk for your system (# mkbootdisk version), (2) make sure you update /etc/lilo.conf to boot your new kernel, (3) make sure you run /sbin/lilo once you've done (2), and (4) pay attention to any warning messages you may get from lilo. I build the new kernel at about 0110 this morning, and didn't get to bed (with it working) until about 0430. I decided to upgrade the kernel for a few reasons; primary among them were (1) hey, it's new, and (2) VMware was complaining about the cd-rom drivers in my previous (mandrake default) 2.0.36 kernel. Because I'm a bit of a geek (or maybe just because I'm nuts), I decided to download the source tarball and install it from there. So, off I went to http://www.linuxhq.org to check out Jon Niehof's excellent "Moving to kernel 2.2" document. After reading that document and checking the versions installed on my system, it turned out that I needed to upgrade modutils and a couple of other packages. I also needed to install bzip2, since I'd downloaded the .bz2 kernel. With that done, I cd'd to /usr/src and untarred the kernel source archive. Oops--thanks to the symlink, all the source went into the 2.0.36 directory. Remove the linux symlink, untar again, rename the linux directory to linux-2.2.9, and re-make the symlink. To restore the 2.0.36 directory to its former condition, would I just delete it and reinstall the kernel-source package? Once everything was unpacked, I ran make xconfig and stepped through the configuration process. Following that, make dep, make clean, make bzImage (I didn't use modules for most things), make modules, make modules_install all completed (apparently) properly. Went to /lib/modules, and made sure preferred was linked to 2.2.9. Copied bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.9, then linked that to vmlinuz. Then edited lilo.conf appropriately, with entries for the old and new kernels. When I ran lilo after that, I got a warning message that "/dev/sda3 is not the first disk", but I ignored it--after all, my system had been starting from /dev/sda3 all along without any problems. Then I rebooted, and that's where the problems started. I got to "LI", and then everything stopped, except that my printer was trying to feed paper and print something. And, not heeding the lessons from my brief time in the Boy Scouts, I was not prepared. I didn't have a boot disk; I didn't even have my Mandrake CD (I had loaned it to a friend). I did have a RedHat 5.2 disc, though, so I tried making boot and rescue disks from that--didn't work, as you can guess (that's what the part about "this can't be used as a rescue disk" means). I'm not quite panicking yet, but I'm getting pretty worried--I don't have a way to boot my (Linux) system! Finally, I hit on this idea: clear off some space on a spare hard drive, install a minimal configuration of RedHat 5.2 on that, and answer Yes when it asks to make a boot disk. Then, I can use that boot disk to either (1) boot linux root=/dev/sda3 (preferred, obviously), or (2) boot the rescue disk. Quite thankful for Partition Magic 4 (which can resize e2fs partitions), I tried this. The installation went fine, it made the boot disk, and then said it was finished. OK, I'm going to boot the new installation first, just to make sure it'll work at all. It worked fine, saw my SCSI adapter, and was able to mount those drives. Cool. So I reboot again from the boot disk, and tell it to use /dev/sda3 as my root device. What? Error 0x10? D@#%. I try it a few more times, with the same result. Apparently the disk that I used for the boot disk is flaky, and doesn't want to boot. Out comes the RedHat 5.2 installation disk again, as I tell it to "upgrade" the existing installation. Of course, no packages need to be upgraded, but it offers to make another boot disk (which is what I was hoping for). Now I boot off the (new) boot disk, it works fine (no error 0x10 this time), but it doesn't detect my SCSI host. It can still see the spare drive where I installed RedHat (which is an IDE drive), and after booting, I can insmod ncr538xx (or whatever that one is), and it will detect the host and devices. Since I'm booted into that system, I try running mkbootdisk, and it builds a boot disk, but I get warnings from mkinitrd, and that boot disk doesn't see the SCSI host either. I'm guessing that the reason for this is that the (RedHat) modules directory is named 2.0.36-0.7, so that is the argument I need to give to mkbootdisk, but that's confusing mkinitrd. After a bit more hairpulling, I try booting again from the first (flaky) boot disk (again setting root to /dev/sda3), and after a couple of tries, it works! I immediately put in a freshly-formatted floppy and ran mkbootdisk 2.2.9. Then
[newbie] lilo questions
I had a few questions about lilo (see my post about upgrading the kernel to find out how they came up)... When I initially installed Mandrake 5.3, my system was all-SCSI--my hard drives, CD-ROMs, zip, jaz, etc. were all on a Diamond Fireport 40 Dual board. This worked fine. After I got that up and running, I heard about vmware, and decided it'd be cool to play with it. I hooked up an IDE drive to store the vmware data, set it to mount in the right place (/home/danb/vmware), etc. Everything continued to work just fine. Then, last night, I decided to upgrade my kernel. I built the new kernel, copied it into /boot, and edited lilo.conf. When I ran lilo, though, I got an error message to the effect that /dev/sda3 (which is where linux boots from) was not on the first disk--and when I rebooted, it stopped at "LI". After a few hours of messing around, I got the system to boot from a boot floppy, but lilo still gave the same error. Once I unplugged the IDE drive, lilo installed without a problem, the system booted, and everything worked fine. When I hooked the IDE drive back up, it still worked fine--the system still booted, recognized the drive, etc (though I didn't try running lilo again). Is this just the way lilo works? Will I need to unplug my IDE drive every time I want to change my lilo settings? Or is there some way around this? Thanks for any help! -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade
"James J. Capone" wrote: I can boot with the old 2.0.36 kernel, Also after I did zlilo and typed lilo at the command prompt and it loaded everything.. Also is there any reference to the systemmap.xxx that would cause it. and do I need to make a Link to the kernel somehow. I don't know that you _need_ to make a link to the kernel. I copied the new bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.9, and then made a symlink to /boot/vmlinuz. As to the systemmap stuff, I'm not quite sure. When I upgraded, I thought I'd copy and paste the existing (working) setup from the 2.0.36 kernel, but there was a line which didn't match. Unfortunately, I'm not at that system right now, so I can't find which line it was, but this is roughly what I used in lilo.conf: image = /boot/vmlinuz root = /dev/sda3 label = linux read-only -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
Hi Don, Me like you are new to this OS, and I have my 5.3 working. But when I go into the KDE desktop as a user, nothing seems to be installed, or working , apps that is. I am very frustrated already, as I have a USB modem, and know it will never (at least under this config) be supported. So how can I even think of giving up MS win98, I cAn't . Seems like all users are supposed to be supergeeks, code writers, programmer's. NOt just a fairly intelligent guy, like you or me. I am ready to bAil, if some one tells me how to delete this LILO, so I won't have it on my C drive. Will - Original Message - From: Donald J. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 2:52 PM Subject: [newbie] kernel update configure OK, here goes...I'm jumping into Linux. Looks like an interesting operating system and besides, I think MS is at least arrogant and perhaps monopolistic, so we need to find something better. I am not an administrator and never will be, but I would like to use and learn the system as I believe the future may belong to an open system. I bought a copy of Redhat 5.2 at my local CompUSA. I ordered a copy of Linux-Mandrake from cheap bytes. No manuals from cheap bytes, living up to their name. I tried (on a 3.1 gig, freshly formatted hard drive with nothing else on it) to install Redhat. I could only get as far as the grey screen. I re-installed twice. Same deal. No one could help me get a windows interface running. So, I tried Mandrake and lo and behold, I got xwindows running right away. Three cheers for Mandrake and BOO to you, redhat! Wouldn't even answer my e-mail after I paid for their system. The screen works (well, almost. It is shrunken at 1024 X 768 but it works), the sound card talks to me and makes all of the .wav noises. With the help of some paid support, I was able to get on ibm.net, my ISP. Still can't get kppp to get me on the internet, but I'll figure that out someday. Now I have a redhat manual and a mandrake system. Nothing seems to match up, although Mandrake is supposed to be compatible with redhat. Sure... So now, I think I would like to upgrade my kernel (now that I know what one is) and have been studying all the information available at several locations. I downloaded and printed out the detailed instructions. I then check to find my kernel and guess what? It is not where it is supposed to be, at least not according to the documentation. Mine is in /proc/sys/kernel not /usr/src/linux. So much for the directions. I suppose that is where it is normally found under Mandrake 5.3, which is (I now know) running on my computer. It would really be nice if there was some information somewhere that would make some of these things available. I am not lazy and would gladly look up the proper information, but it sure is frustrating to try and find something; when everyone that is already using linux assumes that anyone just starting must already know all of this stuff! I have news for you. We DON'T! But we want to support the concept and would like to learn. Please be patient with our ignorance. Most of us are not stupid, just ignorant. I happen to have an airline transport type rating in the 747-400. If you came up in the cockpit with me, I could make you look pretty stupid if I wanted to, but that wouldn't make me any smarter, so I would not do that. enough said... How, please, does one upgrade from 2.0.36 to the new 2.2 kernel under mandrake 5.3? If I do this, will I destroy my cofiguration for getting on the internet through control panel, network, interfaces and highlighting and clickin on my ppp0 interface? Thanks for any help [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
"Donald J. Taylor" wrote: So now, I think I would like to upgrade my kernel (now that I know what one is) and have been studying all the information available at several locations. I downloaded and printed out the detailed instructions. I then check to find my kernel and guess what? It is not where it is supposed to be, at least not according to the documentation. Mine is in /proc/sys/kernel not /usr/src/linux. So much for the directions. Why do you think you want to upgrade the kernel? No, I'm not trying to be a quasi-psychoanalyst, just trying to understand. If you want to do it just to have done it, that's one thing (and it might be best to wait a while, until you know the OS better); if you need an upgraded kernel for some reason, that's another issue. In any case, what you found in /proc is not the same as what's supposed to be in /usr/src/linux. The /proc filesystem is artificial, and /proc/sys/kernel is what is actually running as the kernel on your system--it's not a file, it's actually the kernel image in your machine's memory. What's in /usr/src/linux is the kernel source code (if you installed the kernel-source package). The kernel file on your system is probably at /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-something. Before proceeding, make sure you have a working boot disk, so if you mess something up, you can still bring your system up. Don't ask me how I know this. To upgrade to 2.2.x, first go to one of the mandrake mirrors, in the updates/kernel2.2 directory, and read (and print) the README file. Then go to updates/kernel2.2/RPMS/updates, and download the packages that README says you'll need--initscripts, linux_logo, modutils, mount, net-tools, and util-linux are needed, and possibly others as well. For the kernel itself, you have two options. First, you can download kernel-2.2.5-5mdk.i386.rpm from updates/kernel2.2/RPMS/kernel, if you just want to upgrade to 2.2.x, but don't want (or need) to compile a whole new kernel. Second, if you need (or want) to compile the whole thing from source (which I did), you can download the whole source tarball from a local ftp.kernel.org mirror (it's about 12 megs; you'll probably want linux-2.2.9.tar.gz unless you've installed bzip2 on your system). Once you've got all of that, install it, according to the directions you've already downloaded. I did not lose network services after upgrading (once I was able to get the machine to boot at all--see my earlier post on this subject). BTW, could you turn on line wrapping in your mail program? Thanks! -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
RE: [newbie] kernel update configure
well if you want to get rid of Linux and remove Lilo from the boot record from the c prompt in DOS. you must boot into dos not be in windows. type this C:\ format /mbr That means format Master Boot Record. that will remove the Lilo boot loader. But Patience is a virtue. Also I am non of the people you listed in your reply and Love running Linux. Once it can be used as a full game station then I will fully convert over. James J. Capone Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author - Linux Book For Newbies. "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!" On Monday, May 17, 1999 5:35 PM, Pliler Main Unit [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hi Don, Me like you are new to this OS, and I have my 5.3 working. But when I go into the KDE desktop as a user, nothing seems to be installed, or working , apps that is. I am very frustrated already, as I have a USB modem, and know it will never (at least under this config) be supported. So how can I even think of giving up MS win98, I cAn't . Seems like all users are supposed to be supergeeks, code writers, programmer's. NOt just a fairly intelligent guy, like you or me. I am ready to bAil, if some one tells me how to delete this LILO, so I won't have it on my C drive. Will - Original Message - From: Donald J. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 2:52 PM Subject: [newbie] kernel update configure OK, here goes...I'm jumping into Linux. Looks like an interesting operating system and besides, I think MS is at least arrogant and perhaps monopolistic, so we need to find something better. I am not an administrator and never will be, but I would like to use and learn the system as I believe the future may belong to an open system. I bought a copy of Redhat 5.2 at my local CompUSA. I ordered a copy of Linux-Mandrake from cheap bytes. No manuals from cheap bytes, living up to their name. I tried (on a 3.1 gig, freshly formatted hard drive with nothing else on it) to install Redhat. I could only get as far as the grey screen. I re-installed twice. Same deal. No one could help me get a windows interface running. So, I tried Mandrake and lo and behold, I got xwindows running right away. Three cheers for Mandrake and BOO to you, redhat! Wouldn't even answer my e-mail after I paid for their system. The screen works (well, almost. It is shrunken at 1024 X 768 but it works), the sound card talks to me and makes all of the .wav noises. With the help of some paid support, I was able to get on ibm.net, my ISP. Still can't get kppp to get me on the internet, but I'll figure that out someday. Now I have a redhat manual and a mandrake system. Nothing seems to match up, although Mandrake is supposed to be compatible with redhat. Sure... So now, I think I would like to upgrade my kernel (now that I know what one is) and have been studying all the information available at several locations. I downloaded and printed out the detailed instructions. I then check to find my kernel and guess what? It is not where it is supposed to be, at least not according to the documentation. Mine is in /proc/sys/kernel not /usr/src/linux. So much for the directions. I suppose that is where it is normally found under Mandrake 5.3, which is (I now know) running on my computer. It would really be nice if there was some information somewhere that would make some of these things available. I am not lazy and would gladly look up the proper information, but it sure is frustrating to try and find something; when everyone that is already using linux assumes that anyone just starting must already know all of this stuff! I have news for you. We DON'T! But we want to support the concept and would like to learn. Please be patient with our ignorance. Most of us are not stupid, just ignorant. I happen to have an airline transport type rating in the 747-400. If you came up in the cockpit with me, I could make you look pretty stupid if I wanted to, but that wouldn't make me any smarter, so I would not do that. enough said... How, please, does one upgrade from 2.0.36 to the new 2.2 kernel under mandrake 5.3? If I do this, will I destroy my cofiguration for getting on the internet through control panel, network, interfaces and highlighting and clickin on my ppp0 interface? Thanks for any help [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
-Original Message- Donald J. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I bought a copy of Redhat 5.2 at my local CompUSA. I ordered a copy of Linux-Mandrake from cheap bytes. No manuals from cheap bytes, living up to their name. If you view the contents of the CD in windows (if its still on your machine), you will see that there are HTML files on it. These are copies of the manual that Redhat used paper to print and some people never look at. Its a waste if not used. Using your browser of choice you can view these pages, which have been altered to reflect the changes made by Mandrake. I tried (on a 3.1 gig, freshly formatted hard drive with nothing else on it) to install Redhat. I could only get as far as the grey screen. I re-installed twice. Same deal. No one could help me get a windows interface running. So, I tried Mandrake and lo and behold, I got xwindows running right away. Three cheers for Mandrake and BOO to you, redhat! Wouldn't even answer my e-mail after I paid for their system. The screen works (well, almost. It is shrunken at 1024 X 768 but it works), the sound card talks to me and makes all of the .wav noises. With the help of some paid support, I was able to get on ibm.net, my ISP. Still can't get kppp to get me on the internet, but I'll figure that out someday. Now I have a redhat manual and a mandrake system. Nothing seems to match up, although Mandrake is supposed to be compatible with redhat. Sure... Again look at the CD for the appropriate docs. Also see the many HOWTOs on the net and you made a good step coming here. I have learned a ton reading about the problems of others. There are a couple of not-so-newbies here answering the harder questions, the rest we help each other. So now, I think I would like to upgrade my kernel (now that I know what one is) and have been studying all the information available at several locations. I downloaded and printed out the detailed instructions. I then check to find my kernel and guess what? It is not where it is supposed to be, at least not according to the documentation. Mine is in /proc/sys/kernel not /usr/src/linux. So much for the directions. I suppose that is where it is normally found under Mandrake 5.3, which is (I now know) running on my computer. It would really be nice if there was some information somewhere that would make some of these things available. I am not lazy and would gladly look up the proper information, but it sure is frustrating to try and find something; when everyone that is already using linux assumes that anyone just starting must already know all of this stuff! I have news for you. We DON'T! But we want to support the concept and would like to learn. Please be patient with our ignorance. Most of us are not stupid, just ignorant. I happen to have an airline transport type rating in the 747-400. If you came up in the cockpit with me, I could make you look pretty stupid if I wanted to, but that wouldn't make me any smarter, so I would not do that. enough said... How, please, does one upgrade from 2.0.36 to the new 2.2 kernel under mandrake 5.3? If I do this, will I destroy my cofiguration for getting on the internet through control panel, network, interfaces and highlighting and clickin on my ppp0 interface? If you go to www.linux-mandrake.com there is a link on the main page to info on upgrading. See the left hand side of the page. I looked at it but haven't used it yet. The instructions seemed clear and there is another link to follow to find the current downloadable kernel RPM for Mandrake. Your almost there. Thanks for any help [EMAIL PROTECTED] Us newbies need to stick together and help each other. That being said I got a problem with Rip "A mind is a terrible thing."
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
Pliler Main Unit wrote: But when I go into the KDE desktop as a user, nothing seems to be installed, or working , apps that is. Define "nothing". Lots of stuff is installed w/ mandrake by default (like netscape)--does that work? If not, what happens? If it works but other stuff doesn't, _what_ other stuff doesn't work, and what happens when you try? I am very frustrated already, as I have a USB modem, and know it will never (at least under this config) be supported. So how can I even think of giving up MS win98, I cAn't . All OSs have a Hardware Compatibility List, and if something isn't on the list, it's a fair bet it won't work. If the use of the USB modem was critical to you, why didn't you check out the Linux HCL before installing? Or, just set it up as a dual-boot, and use both OSs as needed (I think most Linux users set up their machines this way). Seems like all users are supposed to be supergeeks, code writers, programmer's. NOt just a fairly intelligent guy, like you or me. Intelligence has little to do with the it; it's more an issue of knowledge and attitude. If you start with the attitude that Linux ought to work instantly with all your hardware, without any tweaking, no matter how wierd your hardware is, and that everybody else ought to hand you all the answers on a silver platter, you won't get far with Linux (or anything else, most likely). If you figure from the outset that the system is very different from Windows (which it is, and always will be, no matter how close the UI comes), and that you'll need to learn a lot to be able to use it effectively, you'll do much better. As to the "code writers, programmer's" remark, hardly. I don't even think I'm a "supergeek", though some people might disagree with me there... For most tasks, you just have to be patient, find, and read the documentation. Again, when you set up a Linux box, you _are_ a system administrator, whether you want to be or not, and you need to act like one. I am ready to bAil, if some one tells me how to delete this LILO, so I won't have it on my C drive. Boot from a MS-DOS floppy with FDISK.EXE on it, and type FDISK /MBR. -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: [newbie] lilo questions
"Payne-Tingleff, Sam" wrote: I believe your BIOS sets the IDE drive as the primary disk by default. If there is no IDE present it will attempt to boot off a scsi disk. Thanks for the response. My BIOS is set to (and does) boot SCSI drives first. It loads System Commander, from which I choose Win98, Linux, etc. Lilo is installed in the superblock of /dev/sda3. Might it help if I told the BIOS to not probe for IDE disks at all? This drive is only used for storage; I don't need to boot from it at all. If I did that, would Linux see the drive at all? Worth trying, I suppose... -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
Hi James, I just bought (yes paid $55 for the LM, thru Circadian soft\ware), because I'm retired with lots of time on my hands. I also was influenced by the ZDTV guys who keep hyping how great this OS is. I don't play games, and my only use would be to do the net. and I can't with my modem even give that a try., So why do I need it, I can't name one reason. I just wasted $55. Will - Original Message - From: James J. Capone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 5:04 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] kernel update configure well if you want to get rid of Linux and remove Lilo from the boot record from the c prompt in DOS. you must boot into dos not be in windows. type this C:\ format /mbr That means format Master Boot Record. that will remove the Lilo boot loader. But Patience is a virtue. Also I am non of the people you listed in your reply and Love running Linux. Once it can be used as a full game station then I will fully convert over. James J. Capone Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author - Linux Book For Newbies. "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!" On Monday, May 17, 1999 5:35 PM, Pliler Main Unit [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hi Don, Me like you are new to this OS, and I have my 5.3 working. But when I go into the KDE desktop as a user, nothing seems to be installed, or working , apps that is. I am very frustrated already, as I have a USB modem, and know it will never (at least under this config) be supported. So how can I even think of giving up MS win98, I cAn't . Seems like all users are supposed to be supergeeks, code writers, programmer's. NOt just a fairly intelligent guy, like you or me. I am ready to bAil, if some one tells me how to delete this LILO, so I won't have it on my C drive. Will - Original Message - From: Donald J. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 2:52 PM Subject: [newbie] kernel update configure OK, here goes...I'm jumping into Linux. Looks like an interesting operating system and besides, I think MS is at least arrogant and perhaps monopolistic, so we need to find something better. I am not an administrator and never will be, but I would like to use and learn the system as I believe the future may belong to an open system. I bought a copy of Redhat 5.2 at my local CompUSA. I ordered a copy of Linux-Mandrake from cheap bytes. No manuals from cheap bytes, living up to their name. I tried (on a 3.1 gig, freshly formatted hard drive with nothing else on it) to install Redhat. I could only get as far as the grey screen. I re-installed twice. Same deal. No one could help me get a windows interface running. So, I tried Mandrake and lo and behold, I got xwindows running right away. Three cheers for Mandrake and BOO to you, redhat! Wouldn't even answer my e-mail after I paid for their system. The screen works (well, almost. It is shrunken at 1024 X 768 but it works), the sound card talks to me and makes all of the .wav noises. With the help of some paid support, I was able to get on ibm.net, my ISP. Still can't get kppp to get me on the internet, but I'll figure that out someday. Now I have a redhat manual and a mandrake system. Nothing seems to match up, although Mandrake is supposed to be compatible with redhat. Sure... So now, I think I would like to upgrade my kernel (now that I know what one is) and have been studying all the information available at several locations. I downloaded and printed out the detailed instructions. I then check to find my kernel and guess what? It is not where it is supposed to be, at least not according to the documentation. Mine is in /proc/sys/kernel not /usr/src/linux. So much for the directions. I suppose that is where it is normally found under Mandrake 5.3, which is (I now know) running on my computer. It would really be nice if there was some information somewhere that would make some of these things available. I am not lazy and would gladly look up the proper information, but it sure is frustrating to try and find something; when everyone that is already using linux assumes that anyone just starting must already know all of this stuff! I have news for you. We DON'T! But we want to support the concept and would like to learn. Please be patient with our ignorance. Most of us are not stupid, just ignorant. I happen to have an airline transport type rating in the 747-400. If you came up in the cockpit with me, I could make you look pretty stupid if I wanted to, but that wouldn't make me any smarter, so I would not do that. enough said... How, please, does one upgrade from 2.0.36 to the new 2.2 kernel under mandrake
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
Refresh my memory. Is it FDISK /MBR that restores the master boot record, or does format /mbr do something to the same effect? Rob "James J. Capone" wrote: well if you want to get rid of Linux and remove Lilo from the boot record from the c prompt in DOS. you must boot into dos not be in windows. type this C:\ format /mbr That means format Master Boot Record. that will remove the Lilo boot loader.
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
Hi Dan, I think I'm hopeless. What I mean, I tried to play the CD player, didn't work, altho its installed same with all other desktop apps , they seem have been installed, but don't seem to function. The only thing I've made work, is I know I can get some sound, and I mad e my printer print. The rest,is just some vast unknown, of what I could be capable of doing but don't know how. This was all in the x window , KDE desktop, I see lots of icons, and they won't operate anything. Will - Original Message - From: Dan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] kernel update configure Pliler Main Unit wrote: But when I go into the KDE desktop as a user, nothing seems to be installed, or working , apps that is. Define "nothing". Lots of stuff is installed w/ mandrake by default (like netscape)--does that work? If not, what happens? If it works but other stuff doesn't, _what_ other stuff doesn't work, and what happens when you try? I am very frustrated already, as I have a USB modem, and know it will never (at least under this config) be supported. So how can I even think of giving up MS win98, I cAn't . All OSs have a Hardware Compatibility List, and if something isn't on the list, it's a fair bet it won't work. If the use of the USB modem was critical to you, why didn't you check out the Linux HCL before installing? Or, just set it up as a dual-boot, and use both OSs as needed (I think most Linux users set up their machines this way). Seems like all users are supposed to be supergeeks, code writers, programmer's. NOt just a fairly intelligent guy, like you or me. Intelligence has little to do with the it; it's more an issue of knowledge and attitude. If you start with the attitude that Linux ought to work instantly with all your hardware, without any tweaking, no matter how wierd your hardware is, and that everybody else ought to hand you all the answers on a silver platter, you won't get far with Linux (or anything else, most likely). If you figure from the outset that the system is very different from Windows (which it is, and always will be, no matter how close the UI comes), and that you'll need to learn a lot to be able to use it effectively, you'll do much better. As to the "code writers, programmer's" remark, hardly. I don't even think I'm a "supergeek", though some people might disagree with me there... For most tasks, you just have to be patient, find, and read the documentation. Again, when you set up a Linux box, you _are_ a system administrator, whether you want to be or not, and you need to act like one. I am ready to bAil, if some one tells me how to delete this LILO, so I won't have it on my C drive. Boot from a MS-DOS floppy with FDISK.EXE on it, and type FDISK /MBR. -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
-Original Message- Donald J. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you view the contents of the CD in windows (if its still on your machine), you will see that there are HTML files on it. These are copies of the manual that Redhat used paper to print and some people never look at. Its a waste if not used. Using your browser of choice you can view these pages, which have been altered to reflect the changes made by Mandrake. ^^^ Don, I beg to differ! I see nothing in these pages to indicate they have been changed at all by Mandrake. Being one of the rare breed who actually read manuals, I've noticed there is quite a difference 'tween RedHat 5.2 and Mandrake 5.3. Sussing out the diff's has been quite entertaining. Good thing I have lots of time on my hands. Mandrake does have documentation on the CD. You have to dive into Mandrake/en/userguid to get started, since the index.html file in /Mandrake is BLANK. And then there are the HOW-to's, brought to you by the ad-hoc geek committee. Linux is fun! Lorne.
Re: [newbie] Whining and Griping. (was pppd dies unexpectedly)
On Tue, 18 May 1999, you wrote: I also installed Red Hat 6 on another partition. It is missing kpackage and glint, which is a very ugly error from Red Hat. Pppd works fine as ROOT, but when I try to bring up kppp the following is the message: What does this have to do with Mandrake, might I ask? As for it missing kpackage and glint, who REALLY cares? Glint sucked rocks through a straw! Thank God I did not install it then ;-) Try gnorpm or (horror of horrors!) the command line! As for kpackage, I tried it with Mandrake and just gave up on it. While uninstalling packages, it would magically up and lose root privileges every few minutes forcing me to restart the program. Thanks, but no thanks. It's rather buggy at uninstalling sometimes. But installation is pretty nice. Just click on an rpm file in the kfm window and up it pops. Installs are easy too. However...I prefer the rpm command line...it's more "deterministic" for now. (hey, i'm being nice) :-) Do these Linux companies know what they are doing? Since Red Hat received so much investment, and Mandrake became successful their products are not worth buying unless you are a programming guru who can fix the ugly errors. This KPPP problem doesn't exist on my copy of Mandrake, and I haven't seen any other postings about 'works as root, not as user' from anyone else in the past 3 or 4 months that I've been using Mandrake. I agree...it sounds pretty bad. Even on my worst days it was never that bad for me. When you installed Mandrake, did you get any error messages? How about at boot time? Might want to look at /var/messages. I used to do it. There is nothing there. Pppd is terminated on signal 15. I have no idea what that is. 1. I dial my ISP -- pppd dies unexpectedly (it complains that the server didn't pass on the required configuration, but it is not sure, it says. 2. I dial again immediately -- it connects without problem. 3. I installed RH 6.0 on another partition. It connects without any problems. The only trouble with it: you cannot install Star Office 5.0 on it, and RealPlayer doesn't seem to work either. Bela As for the 'programming guru' comment, I'll be the first to admit that I couldn't code my way out of a paper bag. My Mandrake installation and subsequent use has been completely trouble-free and without any need to program anything. Same here. Although, programming is the reason I'm using Linux. (Steve! Try Python. I'm serious! :-)) I think it's not "programming" that you mean...it's configuring. And remember that "figuring" is a big part of "configuring". Seriously, though. Docs abound and help is friendly (here, anyway). So persevere, it's worth it. (you'll have to get out of Win98 mindset, though). You get bonus marks for asking "where can I find docs about..." type questions as well as "I'd like to do...where do I find the docs / what docs are pertinent?". Of course, general questions will be normally entertained here. It _is_ a "newbie" mailing list. I am very upset about their carelessness. Linux will not win the hearts of people this way. I am now not recommending it to anyone until it will be praised on the newsgroups. I'm sick and tired of people posting to this mailing list who've seen a mention of Linux somewhere, bought a distribution, installed it, and now snipped WITHOUT the "threats" to give up Linux. You'll get alot further. -- Steve Philp Well said, Steve. I could not have waxed as lyrical-ly myself. I dare say there is a large number of newbies coming to Linux everyday. Whether they stay on depends much on whether they can or have the time or are lucky enough (like me) to be able to find the docs "in the nick of time". Or maybe I'm just too dumb to know when quit. ;-) -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster *And avid Python breeder. --
[newbie] Browsing ext2 from DOS/Windoze
Anybody have a utility to access a Linux disk from Win95? Lorne.
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
Pliler Main Unit wrote: Hi Don, Me like you are new to this OS, and I have my 5.3 working. But when I go into the KDE desktop as a user, nothing seems to be installed, or working , apps that is. What happens when you try to start a program on the menus? I am very frustrated already, as I have a USB modem, and know it will never (at least under this config) be supported. So how can I even think of giving up MS win98, I cAn't . Beginning USB support is showing up in the 2.2.x line of kernels, I don't know if modems are supported yet. Seems like all users are supposed to be supergeeks, code writers, programmer's. NOt just a fairly intelligent guy, like you or me. That's not what Linux is about. However, you can find plenty of helpful information about running/using/configuring Linux in the /usr/doc directories. I am ready to bAil, if some one tells me how to delete this LILO, so I won't have it on my C drive. Boot into dos and type 'fdisk /mbr' and LILO will disappear. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
For safety's sake of Win98 I'd boot to DOS. Then issue commands: cd \windows\command fdisk /mbr That should restore the mbr to boot dos/win. From there you can take care of removing Linux. (all i seem to get with format /mbr is ``invalid switch - /mbr``perhaps this works with other versions?) (I'm running win95 OSR2 4.00.950B) Rob Pliler's Remote Unit Mail wrote: Hi James, and Rob, BTW, I do have Dos on my machine, (windows98), and I certainly don't want to mess this MBR up for it, trying to remove LINUX, so make sure you are telling me the way that only removes it. Thanks Will - Original Message - From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] kernel update configure Refresh my memory. Is it FDISK /MBR that restores the master boot record, or does format /mbr do something to the same effect? Rob "James J. Capone" wrote: well if you want to get rid of Linux and remove Lilo from the boot record from the c prompt in DOS. you must boot into dos not be in windows. type this C:\ format /mbr That means format Master Boot Record. that will remove the Lilo boot loader.
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
James, Why can't I just delete this file that was created by the LILO install, I assume its a hidden file on my C drive? Any thing to do with format, makes me believe it wipes the MBR clean. Will - Original Message - From: James J. Capone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 6:32 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] kernel update configure Hello, Well stability for one. No need to reboot everytime you upgrade something. Nothing is hidden from you, Better use of space and speed of your computer. Many other reasons. I guess we all have our reasons one or the other. But if you run the format /mbr that will remove Lilo from your boot record and boot right into Windows 9.xxx Good Luck and sorry Linux didn't work out for you, James J. Capone Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author - Linux Book For Newbies. "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!" On Monday, May 17, 1999 6:43 PM, Pliler's Remote Unit Mail [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hi James, I just bought (yes paid $55 for the LM, thru Circadian soft\ware), because I'm retired with lots of time on my hands. I also was influenced by the ZDTV guys who keep hyping how great this OS is. I don't play games, and my only use would be to do the net. and I can't with my modem even give that a try., So why do I need it, I can't name one reason. I just wasted $55. Will
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
James, I haven't definitely decided to do away with Linux yet, just want to be able to when or if I decide. Thanks, Will - Original Message - From: James J. Capone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 6:32 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] kernel update configure Hello, Well stability for one. No need to reboot everytime you upgrade something. Nothing is hidden from you, Better use of space and speed of your computer. Many other reasons. I guess we all have our reasons one or the other. But if you run the format /mbr that will remove Lilo from your boot record and boot right into Windows 9.xxx Good Luck and sorry Linux didn't work out for you, James J. Capone Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author - Linux Book For Newbies. "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!" On Monday, May 17, 1999 6:43 PM, Pliler's Remote Unit Mail [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hi James, I just bought (yes paid $55 for the LM, thru Circadian soft\ware), because I'm retired with lots of time on my hands. I also was influenced by the ZDTV guys who keep hyping how great this OS is. I don't play games, and my only use would be to do the net. and I can't with my modem even give that a try., So why do I need it, I can't name one reason. I just wasted $55. Will
Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade
James Capone wrote: I am trying to upgrade to the 2.2.9 version of the Kernel. I went through the entire process for un taring the file through the entire process. I did the make menuconfig I did the make dep I did the make zImage I did the make modules I did the make modules_install I did the make zlilo Even did cp zImage /vmlinuz edited the lilo.conf to look like this image=/vmlinuz Label=Linux etc... When I reboot and try to run Linux with the new Kernel I get the following message Loading Linux. No signature file. Then it stalls If that's the order that you did things in, you might want to try this instead: make menuconfig make dep make clean make zImage make modules make modules_install cp zImage /vmlinuz [edit /etc/lilo.conf] /sbin/lilo That should fix it up! -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Window Maker
"Philip W. Huff" wrote: I recently installed Linux Mandrake for the very first time. Needless to say, I am a little baffled as to how to change my desktop manager from KDE to Window Maker. I purchased both the Redhat 5.2 and Mandrake CD's along with a Contributed RPM's CD. Number one, are all the files I need for Windowmaker on any of these CD's? If so, can They should be. I don't recall whether Mandrake ships with WindowMaker (and I don't have my CD handy). Just find the .i386.rpm package for WindowMaker and type: rpm -Uvh package-name After it's installed, login as your normal user and edit ~/.xinitrc to read this: exec wmaker Then exit the editor and type: chmod +x ~/.xinitrc 'startx' should now bring you up with the WindowMaker window manager. anyone explain what I must do to install them? A download is not preferred since I have not yet established the internet connection. I installed Linux in the first place to see how much customization could be done to the desktop and I am not happy with the KDE environment. Any suggestions as to what desktop manager can give me the most customization would be greatly appreciated. I was also wondering if the ability to elimate the control bar, along with the taskbar, is possible. My main ambition is to just right click on the desktop to access any menu that I may need. Not sure about eliminating those items in KDE, since I've never tried. If you want configurability, you might give the GNOME project a try. Maybe pick up one of the RH6.0 CD's from CheapBytes (they're probably about $1.99), since none of the CD's you listed above contains a recent version of GNOME. But, if you go with WindowMaker, you'll lost the taskbar/panel/etc automatically. Sincerely, Philip Huff Philip Huff Technical Support Thomas Bros. Maps (800)899-6277 -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Whining and Griping. (was pppd dies unexpectedly)
Kuraiken wrote: I'm sick and tired of people posting to this mailing list who've seen a mention of Linux somewhere, bought a distribution, installed it, and now snipped WITHOUT the "threats" to give up Linux. You'll get alot further. -- Steve Philp Well said, Steve. I could not have waxed as lyrical-ly myself. I dare say there is a large number of newbies coming to Linux everyday. Whether they stay on depends much on whether they can or have the time or are lucky enough (like me) to be able to find the docs "in the nick of time". Or maybe I'm just too dumb to know when quit. ;-) I didn't mean to sound like I've always had a golden Unix spoon in my mouth when I wrote the stuff above. It's just not true. I've BEEN there. When I first installed Slackware about 4 or 5 years ago the install went fine, but after that my CDROM didn't work, I couldn't get X configured, and I had NO CLUE what to do with the system. I finally figured out that the kernel that you install with isn't the kernel that's installed on the system and that's why the CDROM didn't work. I didn't get X to work for over a YEAR after installing the stuff -- I had a non-standard video card and a non-standard monitor and despite reading the docs, I just couldn't get it working. As for not knowing what to do with the system, a couple of Linux books helped me out greatly in finding out how to use the system -- "The Linux Bible" (a printed collection of the HOWTO's really), and a book that (if I remember correctly, authored by SuSE) described various Linux applications. I still wonder why I never gave up on Linux in those days, but I think it's probably got something to do with me really wanting to figure this whole thing out. I'm not a programmer, but I could probably whip up some Tcl/Tk code or maybe Perl (and I'm currently playing with PHP -- witness the MUST website) if it came down to it. All in all, Linux has been pretty good for me. I _know_ I wouldn't have learned as much about the Internet, providing services, server security, or user administration without using Linux. And all of those things are exactly what landed me my new job. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
fdisk /mbr from the dos prompt will do it. Lyndon Lininger Sr. - Original Message - From: James J. Capone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 6:40 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] kernel update configure format /mbr will restore the MBR not sure about the FDISK one though. I just use the format mbr here at work when needed. James J. Capone Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author - Linux Book For Newbies. "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!" On Monday, May 17, 1999 6:45 PM, Robert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Refresh my memory. Is it FDISK /MBR that restores the master boot record, or does format /mbr do something to the same effect? Rob "James J. Capone" wrote: well if you want to get rid of Linux and remove Lilo from the boot record from the c prompt in DOS. you must boot into dos not be in windows. type this C:\ format /mbr That means format Master Boot Record. that will remove the Lilo boot loader.
Re: [newbie] Whining and Griping. (was pppd dies unexpectedly)
Bela Lantos wrote: 3. I installed RH 6.0 on another partition. It connects without any problems. The only trouble with it: you cannot install Star Office 5.0 on it, and RealPlayer doesn't seem to work either. If you've got the retail version of RedHat 6.0, StarOffice is on the Apps CD and works extremely well. I've been happy with it. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] gcc + linking
When I do the ln -s /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.9 /boot/vmlinuz will I still be able to use my old kernel If I am not able to boot to the new one. Like have Lilo look like this image=/boot/vmlinuz Label= Linux2.0.36 etc.. The only vmlinuz I can find on the system in the /boot directory is the vmlinuz one. Not at home know so don't remember if it is vmlinuz or vmlinuz-2.0.36 either way there is only one with the word vmlinuz in it. If I do the ln -s will that kill the old one or is there a way to make it be able to boot the old one if I where to type Linux2.0.36 at the Lilo prompt? Also what about the system.map file with the compiling take care of that for me?? Thanks, James J. Capone cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.x # copy the kernel image to your boot directory; replace the x with # the appropriate number ln -s /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.x /boot/vmlinuz # make a symbolic link between "vmlinuz" and "vmlinuz-2.2.x" # when a program (like lilo) asks for "vmlinuz" it'll get # "vmlinuz-2.2.x" -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
RE: [newbie] kernel update configure
That is my fault. The one here at work has it as format /mbr for a script file they wrote. It is Fdisk /mbr James On Monday, May 17, 1999 8:03 PM, Robert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: For safety's sake of Win98 I'd boot to DOS. Then issue commands: cd \windows\command fdisk /mbr That should restore the mbr to boot dos/win. From there you can take care of removing Linux. (all i seem to get with format /mbr is ``invalid switch - /mbr``perhaps this works with other versions?) (I'm running win95 OSR2 4.00.950B) Rob Pliler's Remote Unit Mail wrote: Hi James, and Rob, BTW, I do have Dos on my machine, (windows98), and I certainly don't want to mess this MBR up for it, trying to remove LINUX, so make sure you are telling me the way that only removes it. Thanks Will - Original Message - From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] kernel update configure Refresh my memory. Is it FDISK /MBR that restores the master boot record, or does format /mbr do something to the same effect? Rob "James J. Capone" wrote: well if you want to get rid of Linux and remove Lilo from the boot record from the c prompt in DOS. you must boot into dos not be in windows. type this C:\ format /mbr That means format Master Boot Record. that will remove the Lilo boot loader.
RE: [newbie] Kernel.
I installed the 2.2.7 kernel and did not install anything else. When it booted after the new kernel was installed I received some errors. I installed modutils with nothing else and the error went away. I was able to get my IP masqerading going and all worked well. So I didnt touch anything else. Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James J. Capone Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 8:42 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] Kernel. I had to start a new thread sorry. I went the Mandrake website, They reference to the 2.2.3 kernel upgrade not the 2.2.9 kernel. Any which way. The file I DL for the kernel is kernel-2.2.9.tar.gz I did not DL and .i386.rpm or kernel-headers-2.2.x-x.i386.rpm does this matter. If I Downloaded the .tar.gz file does not that contain it all. Please let me know. Also It says to upgrade initscripts-3.91-3 and modutils-2.1.121-4 is that also really needed. Has anyone upgraded to the 2.2.3 or higher without upgrading the modutils or the initscripts files. Thanks, James
[newbie] kernel 2.2.5 error on CDROM
Hi,
I've a problem with the kernel 2.2.5-15 (installed from kpackage, I believe is
kernel-2.2.5-15.i386.rpm). This kernel (2.2.5-mk5 works reguraly) hang my cdrw yamaha
4416E bios 1.0b on SuperMicro P6SBA.
Temporaly it's seem resolved by removing /dev/cd* but I mail you file that can be
usefull to fix it (file0.txt before changing - file1.txt after changing)
The strange error is more more frequently on burned CD respect the silver.
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--- Loaded modules ---
[root@localhost /root]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
nls_iso8859-1 2020 1 (autoclean)
nls_cp437 3548 1 (autoclean)
vfat 11420 1 (autoclean)
fat25344 1 (autoclean) [vfat]
es1370 22140 0
soundcore 2404 4 [es1370]
--- List of /dev/cd* ---
[root@localhost /root]# cd /dev
[root@localhost /dev]# ls cd*
brw-rw 2 root 22, 64 mag 5 1998 cdrom
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root8 mag 16 20:37 cdrw - /dev/hdc
brw-rw-r-- 1 root 15, 0 mag 5 1998 cdu31a
brw-r- 1 root 24, 0 mag 5 1998 cdu535
read the file dmesg0.txt to see the boot
--- Error on mount /dev/hdc ---
[root@localhost /dev]# mnt /mnt/cdrw
hdc: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: packet command error: error=0x00
ATAPI device hdc:
Error: Unit attention -- (Sense key=0x06)
Not ready to ready transition, medium may have changed -- (asc=0x28,
ascq=0x00)
The failed "Test Unit Ready" packet command was:
"00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 "
--- Error on reading /dev/hdc ---
[root@localhost /dev]# cd /mnt/cdrw
[root@localhost /dev]# ls -r * | less
hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hdc: ATAPI reset timed-out, status=0x80
ide1: reset timed-out, status=0x80
hdc: status timeout: status=0x80 { Busy }
hdc: drive not ready for command
Linux version 2.2.5-15 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66
19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Mon Apr 19 23:00:46 EDT 1999
Detected 334098118 Hz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 333.41 BogoMIPS
Memory: 63140k/65536k available (996k kernel code, 412k reserved, 928k data, 60k init)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
CPU: Intel Pentium II (Deschutes) stepping 02
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.26 (19981001) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb81
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Enabling I/O for device 00:3a
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
Serial driver version 4.27 with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.9)
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
hda: SAMSUNG SV0432A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: WDC AC36400L, ATA DISK drive
hdc: YAMAHA CRW4416E, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdd: LTN301, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: SAMSUNG SV0432A, 4112MB w/482kB Cache, CHS=784/255/63
hdb: WDC AC36400L, 6149MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=784/255/63
hdc: ATAPI 16X CD-ROM DVD-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.54
hdd: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MAX_REAL=12
raid5: measuring checksumming speed
raid5: using high-speed MMX checksum routine
pII_mmx : 813.054 MB/sec
p5_mmx: 787.908 MB/sec
8regs : 575.691 MB/sec
32regs: 413.766 MB/sec
using fastest function: pII_mmx (813.054 MB/sec)
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
md.c: sizeof(mdp_super_t) = 4096
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda5
hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 hdb4 hdb5 hdb6
autodetecting RAID arrays
autorun ...
... autorun DONE.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 60k freed
Adding Swap: 144548k swap-space (priority -1)
es1370: version v0.19 time 21:48:00 Apr 19 1999
es1370: found adapter at io 0xef00 irq 10
es1370: features: joystick off, line in, mic impedance 0
hdc: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete
[newbie] kernel 2.2.5-15 error on CDROM
Hi,
I've a problem with the kernel 2.2.5-15 (installed from kpackage, I believe is
kernel-2.2.5-15.i386.rpm). This kernel (2.2.5-mk5 works reguraly) hang my cdrw yamaha
4416E bios 1.0b on SuperMicro P6SBA.
Temporaly it's seem resolved by removing /dev/cd* but I mail you file that can be
usefull to fix it (file0.txt before changing - file1.txt after changing)
The strange error is more more frequently on burned CD respect the silver.
_
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--- Loaded modules ---
[root@localhost /root]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
nls_iso8859-1 2020 1 (autoclean)
nls_cp437 3548 1 (autoclean)
vfat 11420 1 (autoclean)
fat25344 1 (autoclean) [vfat]
es1370 22140 0
soundcore 2404 4 [es1370]
--- List of /dev/cd* ---
[root@localhost /root]# cd /dev
[root@localhost /dev]# ls cd*
brw-rw 2 root 22, 64 mag 5 1998 cdrom
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root8 mag 16 20:37 cdrw - /dev/hdc
brw-rw-r-- 1 root 15, 0 mag 5 1998 cdu31a
brw-r- 1 root 24, 0 mag 5 1998 cdu535
read the file dmesg0.txt to see the boot
--- Error on mount /dev/hdc ---
[root@localhost /dev]# mnt /mnt/cdrw
hdc: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: packet command error: error=0x00
ATAPI device hdc:
Error: Unit attention -- (Sense key=0x06)
Not ready to ready transition, medium may have changed -- (asc=0x28,
ascq=0x00)
The failed "Test Unit Ready" packet command was:
"00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 "
--- Error on reading /dev/hdc ---
[root@localhost /dev]# cd /mnt/cdrw
[root@localhost /dev]# ls -r * | less
hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hdc: ATAPI reset timed-out, status=0x80
ide1: reset timed-out, status=0x80
hdc: status timeout: status=0x80 { Busy }
hdc: drive not ready for command
Linux version 2.2.5-15 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66
19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Mon Apr 19 23:00:46 EDT 1999
Detected 334098118 Hz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 333.41 BogoMIPS
Memory: 63140k/65536k available (996k kernel code, 412k reserved, 928k data, 60k init)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
CPU: Intel Pentium II (Deschutes) stepping 02
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.26 (19981001) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb81
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Enabling I/O for device 00:3a
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
Serial driver version 4.27 with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.9)
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
hda: SAMSUNG SV0432A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: WDC AC36400L, ATA DISK drive
hdc: YAMAHA CRW4416E, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdd: LTN301, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: SAMSUNG SV0432A, 4112MB w/482kB Cache, CHS=784/255/63
hdb: WDC AC36400L, 6149MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=784/255/63
hdc: ATAPI 16X CD-ROM DVD-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.54
hdd: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MAX_REAL=12
raid5: measuring checksumming speed
raid5: using high-speed MMX checksum routine
pII_mmx : 813.054 MB/sec
p5_mmx: 787.908 MB/sec
8regs : 575.691 MB/sec
32regs: 413.766 MB/sec
using fastest function: pII_mmx (813.054 MB/sec)
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
md.c: sizeof(mdp_super_t) = 4096
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda5
hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 hdb4 hdb5 hdb6
autodetecting RAID arrays
autorun ...
... autorun DONE.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 60k freed
Adding Swap: 144548k swap-space (priority -1)
es1370: version v0.19 time 21:48:00 Apr 19 1999
es1370: found adapter at io 0xef00 irq 10
es1370: features: joystick off, line in, mic impedance 0
hdc: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
On Mon, 17 May 1999, Donald J. Taylor wrote: then check to find my kernel and guess what? It is not where it is supposed to be, at least not according to the documentation. Mine is in /proc/sys/kernel not /usr/src/linux. So much for the directions. /proc/sys/kernel is not a physical location in the hard disk. It is similar to a RAM drive that Linux creates every boot time so that system processes info are accessible from the ext2 filesystem. Your kernel sources are still on the CD. You just need to install them since they are not included during the installation. Gilbert I suppose that is where it is normally found under Mandrake 5.3, which is (I now know) running on my computer. It would really be nice if there was some information somewhere that would make some of these things available. I am not lazy and would gladly look up the proper information, but it sure is frustrating to try and find something; when everyone that is already using linux assumes that anyone just starting must already know all of this stuff! I have news for you. We DON'T! But we want to support the concept and would like to learn. Please be patient with our ignorance. Most of us are not stupid, just ignorant. I happen to have an airline transport type rating in the 747-400. If you came up in the cockpit with me, I could make you look pretty stupid if I wanted to, but that wouldn't make me any smarter, so I would not do that. enough said... How, please, does one upgrade from 2.0.36 to the new 2.2 kernel under mandrake 5.3? If I do this, will I destroy my cofiguration for getting on the internet through control panel, network, interfaces and highlighting and clickin on my ppp0 interface? Thanks for any help [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
You can't access the MBR using delete. When LILO is gone dos should replace it with its own boot record. Format will rebuild it for you without erasing the data in your HD. Gilbert On Mon, 17 May 1999, Pliler's Remote Unit Mail wrote: James, Why can't I just delete this file that was created by the LILO install, I assume its a hidden file on my C drive? Any thing to do with format, makes me believe it wipes the MBR clean. Will - Original Message - From: James J. Capone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 6:32 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] kernel update configure Hello, Well stability for one. No need to reboot everytime you upgrade something. Nothing is hidden from you, Better use of space and speed of your computer. Many other reasons. I guess we all have our reasons one or the other. But if you run the format /mbr that will remove Lilo from your boot record and boot right into Windows 9.xxx Good Luck and sorry Linux didn't work out for you, James J. Capone Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author - Linux Book For Newbies. "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!" On Monday, May 17, 1999 6:43 PM, Pliler's Remote Unit Mail [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hi James, I just bought (yes paid $55 for the LM, thru Circadian soft\ware), because I'm retired with lots of time on my hands. I also was influenced by the ZDTV guys who keep hyping how great this OS is. I don't play games, and my only use would be to do the net. and I can't with my modem even give that a try., So why do I need it, I can't name one reason. I just wasted $55. Will
[newbie] Kernel Upgrade :)
Hello All, Finally I got the kernel -2.2.9 to compile load and work. I ran uname -r to make sure and it comes up as 2.2.9 thanks all for the help. Now I need to get the soun drivers to work. With 2.0.36 they worked fine, now when I load the kernel it gives me a bunch of errors about the sound. Like no such file or directory all on the sound. Every thing else works fine. I had to make the kernel with "make bzImage" when i tried it with "make zImage" it would not work. But it works now I just wanted to thank everyone. Thanks again, James J. Capone
Re: [newbie] Browsing ext2 from DOS/Windoze
"Birchall, Richard" wrote: Explore2fs http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ _Very_ cool. Thanks for the link! -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: [newbie] IP Masquerading
Rich McCabe wrote: Well I am not using proxy. It is Ip masquerading and it is in the many "mini how to's" on the web. Let me know if I can help. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the pointer! For the sake of other readers and/or the archives, the most current info is at http://ipmasq.cjb.net. I followed the steps and it works just great, both for VMware and my little LAN here. Of course, as soon as I get it set up, I see the posting for Ballantain on Freshmeat, which would do the job on an old 486 with a NIC and a modem... -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
