[newbie-it] x-server la saga continua..
= Original Message from michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 3/07/00 17.30 Qualche d'uno ci e' riuscito? Via Rete magari? Le donne senza tette sono come i jeans senza tasche: non sai mai dove mettere le mani. [Un SMS anonimo] -- Michel ZioBudda Morelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN: 58351764 PR of PhpItalia.com http://www.ziobudda.net http://faq.ziobudda.net *** Caro ZioBudda, se ti riferisci al mio messaggio : ho sentito una storiella (non mi pare molto reale.mmm), che diceva piu' o meno cosi' : un tale a cui stava molto poco simpatico un altro tale della ditta pinco, gli ha configurato il monitor da 15' per una frequenza orizzontale di 200 hz ( quando il top era 50 ) e ha lasciato il pc acceso durante la notte ... al mattino il tubo catodico fece il botto,con le relative conseguenze. Cosi' finisce la storia - p.s. personalmento vedo l'esplosione del tubo difficile da verificarsi, ma teoricamente possibile. se non era per me come non detto p.s. : ne approfitto,ritenendoti un ottimo conoscitore di Linux e penso anche di Enlightenment (visto il mirror),per chiederti una cosetta (sperando non sia una faq):tempo fa installai per errore un tema DR15 su E 0.16.3,causando un pasticcio alla visualizzazione. Ripristinando il tema di default,ma non sono piu' riuscito a recuperare i bordi del pager di E per nessun etheme. Ho dovuto ricreare l'utente!! Come mai? Grazie - ciao Simone
[newbie-it] editor di menu
salve a tutti uso il kde la mandrake 7.1 non mi ha installato l'editor di menu qualcuno sa quale pacchetto sia? byez -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia www.acidlife.com/aciderror/freefred Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://i.am/freefred ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
[newbie] partition (drive) access
I was wondering if someone could answer a technical question for me. Recently I installed Mandrake 7.1 on my personal computer. Mandrake will automaticaly mount your media for you, whether it's HDs, zips, cds, etc. I am using a dual boot system, windows and then of course linux. On the windows partition I have two drives, C:\ and D:\ Well when I am running Linux, I can see both of the windows partitions and can even access the files across the partition (from Linux onto windows). But when I boot into Windows I can't see the D:\ drive. I can access the C but can't even see the D. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what I can do to resolve this? Sean
[newbie] 3COM 3C905C-TX Network Card
Hi, i hope anyone can help with this:I can't install driver for network card 3COM 3C905C-TX ExternalParallel Interface100 MBI'm using LM 7.0Deluxe with kernel 2.2.14-15MDKThanks
Re: [newbie] Printer Epson
I have a Epson Stylus 400 Color and there is no specific driver for it in my version 6.5 however, there is a generic Epson Stylus driver. Try installing that and see if it works. Sorry no more help from me on this one, but I just did this about 4 days ago and never was able to get it to work before. Good luck. Gustavo Halperin wrote: I have the printer Epson Stylus Color 670 The Linux Mandrake was know this in the configuration hardware, but when I send any think is not print, What I can to do -- _/_/_/_/.._/. _/._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/ _/.._/._/_/_/_/.. ..._/..._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/.._/_/.._/._/... .._/..._/_/.._/._/._/_/_/_/..._/..._/_/_/_/..._/..._/.._/._/ ._/.._/.._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/_/._/..._/._/. _/_/_/_/.._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/.._/..._/.._/._/_/..._/_/_/_/.. .Gustavo Halperin... .Paradigm Geophysical..\\\Y///. [EMAIL PROTECTED]\\ ^ ^ // .972-9-9709318..(/ @ @ \).. -oOOo-(_)-oOOo- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
[newbie] KPPP again
Hi! As I wrote yesterday, I can log-on with kppp (using Mandrake 7.1) but not get fetchmail to to download or lynx to act. Using a shell script of my own I can do all these things. I changed /etc/ppp/resolv.conf to match /etc/resolv.conf and everything worked fine with kppp something seems to have re-written my /etc/ppp/resolv.conf file and now even if I change it back it will not cut the mustard... any ideas?? This is /etc/resolv.conf search localdomain nameserver 212.1.130.10 nameserver 212.1.128.156 TIA Glyn M. -- ** * "The soul is greater than the hum of its parts. " * * Douglas Hoftstatder* **
Re: [newbie] Realplayer and icons etc.
Dennis, I hope these will help you out. Put these into /usr/share/icons/ Seve -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:18 PM Subject: [newbie] Realplayer and icons etc. Here I am with all indications that real player 7 down loaded and installed. It shows up in RPM/files and is set in /usr/bin and usr/local with a whole bunch of /usr/lib files. Ok, how do I know it is working? It also shows up in /usr/local/netscape/plugins. I don't know if or how I should put an icon on the desk top or on the tray ala MS Windows. Any ideas on if I installed ok and how to make an icon, any icon for that matter. rp7.xpm rprod.xpm rprod-wine.xpm
Re: [newbie] StarOffice5.1KpackageInstalling
Marcia Waller wrote: Dear anyone, I have the Linux-Mandrake 7.0 complete and I thought I installed it from the CD#3 last night. It shows up in the Kpack window as installed I believe, but I do not know how to open and use the program. There is no icon on my desktop. I would like to do this the easy way if possible such as through KPackage or RPMDrake. Thank you very much for your help. Sincerely, Marcia Waller Star Office shows up under "Personal" menu item for me. I installed it from the CD and after restarting windows, it lists three menu items for SO. -- Barry :-)
[newbie] Printer Epson
I have the printer Epson Stylus Color 670 The Linux Mandrake was know this in the configuration hardware, but when I send any think is not print, What I can to do -- _/_/_/_/.._/. _/._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/ _/.._/._/_/_/_/.. ..._/..._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/.._/_/.._/._/... .._/..._/_/.._/._/._/_/_/_/..._/..._/_/_/_/..._/..._/.._/._/ ._/.._/.._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/_/._/..._/._/. _/_/_/_/.._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/.._/..._/.._/._/_/..._/_/_/_/.. .Gustavo Halperin... .Paradigm Geophysical..\\\Y///. [EMAIL PROTECTED]\\ ^ ^ // .972-9-9709318..(/ @ @ \).. -oOOo-(_)-oOOo- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
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RE: [newbie] The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!
|-Original Message- |From: toyswins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 12:11 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [newbie] The pppd daemon died unexpectedly! | | |Answered this on another string I think, but used both and terminal |based also. Results are gibberish on connect. Not necessarily. Your connect script might be expecting to see Ascii text at this point but your ISP might already be way into PPP handshaking and PAP/CHAP authentication. In this case you would see unintelligible gibberish, as this is handled in binary sequences. If this is the case, the fix is to REDUCE the wait time for a PPP connection and eliminate your last send/expect entries. |Something isn't right or |I'd get back legible data. I think that's probably the only hurdle left |for my end then it'd work fine. Also, if I can figure out Earthlink, |then I can work on my other ISP, S. W. Bell. | However to make matters worst, you'll also get unintelligible gibberish when the modem is switching the DCE rate down, but the computer is fixed at another rate. You need to make sure that your initialization string "fixes" the DCE rate at 115K and that you use the STTY SPD_VHI option in /etc/rc.d/rc.local to adjust the UART to reflect this. The modem to modem rate is handled via "probes" between the local and remote modem, and will vary based upon line conditions. If your NVRAM modem settings were reset, the modem's rate when communicating via the UART to the computer will vary along with the modem to modem rate. This will give any comm program headaches. -JMS
Re: [newbie] KDE2 problems
Install kde2and1stripts.i586.rpm and reboot. the problems should go away. and you should have your menu options for kde2. Make sure that the package does over-write the /etc/X11/window-managers file. -Chris In Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Gentile, Sam wrote: I finally got KDE2 installed on Mandrake 7.0 using http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc/index.html. I followed the instructions and used the mandrake script but the only way I can get KDE2 running is WINDOWMANAGER=kde2 startx. Is this correct? How do I get a menu choice? Also, all my menus are screwed up. All the menus contain GNOME things and multiple times. How do I correct this or reset the menus? Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Compuware NuMega Performance Coverage Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.numega.com http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?SamGentile "Love Yourself. Love Your Neighbor. Love Your COM"
Re: [newbie] Printer Epson
Sorry, but I don't understand what is mean : and set-up your printer and spool. Can you explain to me please. Eric MC DECLERCK wrote: Try to reconfigure your printer with: Drakconf, printer, and set-up your printer and spool. Eric Gustavo Halperin wrote: I have the printer Epson Stylus Color 670 The Linux Mandrake was know this in the configuration hardware, but when I send any think is not print, What I can to do -- _/_/_/_/.._/. _/._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/ _/.._/._/_/_/_/.. ..._/..._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/.._/_/.._/._/... .._/..._/_/.._/._/._/_/_/_/..._/..._/_/_/_/..._/..._/.._/._/ ._/.._/.._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/_/._/..._/._/. _/_/_/_/.._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/.._/..._/.._/._/_/..._/_/_/_/.. .Gustavo Halperin... .Paradigm Geophysical..\\\Y///. [EMAIL PROTECTED]\\ ^ ^ // .972-9-9709318..(/ @ @ \).. -oOOo-(_)-oOOo- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ -- _/_/_/_/.._/. _/._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/ _/.._/._/_/_/_/.. ..._/..._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/.._/_/.._/._/... .._/..._/_/.._/._/._/_/_/_/..._/..._/_/_/_/..._/..._/.._/._/ ._/.._/.._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/_/._/..._/._/. _/_/_/_/.._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/.._/..._/.._/._/_/..._/_/_/_/.. .Gustavo Halperin... .Paradigm Geophysical..\\\Y///. [EMAIL PROTECTED]\\ ^ ^ // .972-9-9709318..(/ @ @ \).. -oOOo-(_)-oOOo- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [newbie] Reconfiguring X
Whats this registered Linux user # stuff??? Is there a multi distrobution registration now? and if so wouldent that go against the freedom of linux idea? dave I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Wed, 5 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I had a power outage while inside KDE, and my X server wasn't able to shutdown properly. Now whenever I startup Mandrake, and thus when it goes into the graphical login, I get a garbled mess on my screen indicating my X settings have been corrupted (if I shall use the term correctly). What I wish to know is to how to abort starting X automatically on startup so I can reconfigure X from VC. I appreciate any response or help. Kenny -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= LINUX - Why? Cause I dont do windows -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: [newbie] Reconfiguring X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It's just a little thing that Linux users do to proclaim their pride in the Penguin and celebrate their freedom from the evil empire, Micro$soft. - -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Armisis Aieoln wrote: Whats this registered Linux user # stuff??? Is there a multi distrobution registration now? and if so wouldent that go against the freedom of linux idea? dave I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Wed, 5 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I had a power outage while inside KDE, and my X server wasn't able to shutdown properly. Now whenever I startup Mandrake, and thus when it goes into the graphical login, I get a garbled mess on my screen indicating my X settings have been corrupted (if I shall use the term correctly). What I wish to know is to how to abort starting X automatically on startup so I can reconfigure X from VC. I appreciate any response or help. Kenny -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.2 iQA/AwUBOWRl18yAJXntrICxEQLE9QCfXUPNEFKapMlBc2nqEycQdyGlPi4AnRjr Vm+8mrJD6V39NiKYiWXrGiyZ =gz20 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [[newbie] KPPP again]
Glyn Millington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! As I wrote yesterday, I can log-on with kppp (using Mandrake 7.1) but not get fetchmail to to download or lynx to act. Using a shell script of my own I can do all these things. I changed /etc/ppp/resolv.conf to match /etc/resolv.conf and everything worked fine with kppp something seems to have re-written my /etc/ppp/resolv.conf file and now even if I change it back it will not cut the mustard... any ideas?? This is /etc/resolv.conf search localdomain nameserver 212.1.130.10 nameserver 212.1.128.156 TIA === search your isp #not localdomain HTH, Mike "Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing and dreadful idolatry took place there!" Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
[newbie] Hard drive compromised by Mandrake install
Hello All Having tried various flavours of Linux (RH 5.2 - 6.1, SuSE 6.0 - 6.3) I thought I'd try Mandrake. Followed my usual practice of clearing some space(3.5G) on my 2nd drive using Partition Magic 3.0 and running the installation CD. Everything seemed to go fine, quite impressed in fact, then, as has happened with all the other distros, graphics card gets probed and bye bye install. Never mind, been there before, start clean and try again with text installer. Problem. PM 3.0 now tells me it doesn't recognise the 2nd drive's signature (or words to that effect) so it's not going to play anymore. Win 95, astonishingly, seems quite happy with it! It can see it's 1.3G FAT32 partition and doesn't seem concerned about anything else. Just to see if the Mandrake installer could figure out what it had done, tried it again only to be told my drive was corrupt and it was giving up! (Once again words to that effect - this happened a few weeks ago). Fdisk(DOS) and FIPS indicate some problems with overlapping partition boundaries or something. H/W setup:- Gateway 2000 P5 200MMX 64M Virge/VX 4M Ensonic Soundscape VIVO 90 Fujitsu 6.4G, Maxtor 4.8G 2 brand X CDR. TV card, modem, scanner etc. There are obviously a number of possible solutions to the problem which, being a byte botherer of too many years experience, I could probably work out, but the question is:- WHY DID IT HAPPEN? Any clues anyone? (Is this a known problem?) Bye for now Graham ** This transmission is confidential and must not be used or disclosed by anyone other than the intended recipient. Neither Corus Group Plc nor any of its subsidiaries can accept any responsibility for any use or misuse of the transmission by anyone. **
Re: [newbie] The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!
Hi -- Don't know if this will solve the problem, but I too had the message "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly." Tried NOAUTH, and it didn't work. What DID work was greatly increasing the timeout from 60 to 600 seconds. On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 23:10:31 -0500, toyswins wrote: Answered this on another string I think, but used both and terminal based also. Results are gibberish on connect. Something isn't right or I'd get back legible data. I think that's probably the only hurdle left for my end then it'd work fine. Also, if I can figure out Earthlink, then I can work on my other ISP, S. W. Bell. Thanks for the hint, got to checking them out just today...good timing. B. B. Stanfield III KC5PIY kdm wrote: What kind of authentification are using? Have you tried changing PAP or CHAP? On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: Well, sorry but having to revert to you folks for help. Get this message on dialing so the other end is hanging up immediately on connect. I've checked the various files in the HOWTO's and all seems fine. Used KPPP 1.6.22 as the dialer and to set up the system. pppd is 2.3.8 so I've provided the full fault message below. I've reloaded the entire Linux Mandrake 6.5 two times, no changes. All the startup files load okay. As root, it's a pretty system, but hit this glitch. pppd 2.3.8 started by root, uid0 Using interface ppp0 Connect ppp0---/dev/ttyS1 Hangup (SIGHUP) Modemhangup Connection terminated. Exit This is what I understand so far: The modem is found, dials and gets a machine on the other end. The other machine then immediately initiated a disconnect, (SIGHUP), then it disconnects at my end, gives me the error message. ISP is S. W. Bell. I've got the ADSL on the Windows system going fine, but it dies now and then, also I travel and need access from other locations. The dialup on LINUX would be really handy, if I could get it to work. I know there's either a bug or three and need to update to something or I've got some configuration problem. Either way, I've looked at it so long I'm not seeing it. Pointers Thanks B. B. Stanfield III KC5PIY -- ..., _ ___ ___ , ...|\ \|/ / \ \ \ \/\/ / /| [K][D][M]=== | | [] | | ^^ | ===[K][D][M] ...|/ /|\__\ /__/ /__|\__/|__\ \| ...' ' Pete Clapham Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences Cleveland State University Cleveland, Ohio, 44115 Phone: [216] 687-4820 Fax: [216] 523-7175 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] StarOffice5.1KpackageInstalling
My StarOffice came on CD with the LINUX package. The readme files called for running a file as root which installed the program suite. I then had to go in as a regular user, not root, to install for that user. Actually I think they were links to the program for that user. You might want to check the readme files that came with your distribution, it wasn't obvious unless you read the whole thing since it was buried. If yours is anything like mine, that might be useful. If not, then you at least get a better feel for the program in the developers eyes. See ya' B. B. Stanfield KC5PIY Paul wrote: On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Marcia Waller wrote: You can run /opt/soffice/bin/soffice (If you installed it in /opt/soffice). Good luck! Paul Dear anyone, I have the Linux-Mandrake 7.0 complete and I thought I installed it from the CD#3 last night. It shows up in the Kpack window as installed I believe, but I do not know how to open and use the program. There is no icon on my desktop. I would like to do this the easy way if possible such as through KPackage or RPMDrake. Thank you very much for your help. Sincerely, Marcia Waller -- Do you work to live? Or do you live to work? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
[newbie] PPP connection for other than root
Hello everyone! What should I do to use a PPP dialup conection to internet whithout going into drakconf/network/PPP? I'd like to have a sort of shortcut so I dont have to go into drakconf (and type root's password). Is this possible? Thanks in advance. Hugo
Re: [newbie] Make Rescue/Bootdisk?
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote:
Hi all,
I'm very new to this stuff.
I finally have a Mandrake 7.1 distribution up and running at home.
I'd like to create a "rescue" or "bootdisk" diskette. {I'm planning to
re-install the Win98 portion of my "dual boot" machine - but I'm worried
about the possibility of not being able to get back into Mandrake.}
Is there an 'easy' way to do this?
Sure, have a floppy ready and type, mkbootdisk $(uname -r)
full explaination here
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/admin/arecov2.html
--
~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] IBM 10/100 Etherjet PCI Adapter
did some digging (got nothing better to do, eh?), and it seems like the ibm etherjet pci 10/100 is based on the i82557 chip from crystal semiconductor. it seems the eepro100 module should work for this card. when you install, you should find this module in the list, i assume. otherwise you have to compile/install it yourself, but the good news is it sounds like your card should work. ...joakim On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: If it's not supported by one distribution, it will not be supported by another. All of the distributions are based around similiar kernels. So if your hardware is not supported there is nothing you can do but get another interface card. You might want to pull out the interface board. Often the chips are "generic". IBM often will use other manufacturer's chipsets. Check the brand name on the largest chip. If it says something other than IBM you might be able to use the board. You can also try to go ahead and install Linux. It may have a driver that will work with that board. If it fails, get another supported card and install Linux again. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 11:27 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] IBM 10/100 Etherjet PCI Adapter | | |Bonjour :) | |Not yet newbie, I am planning to install |a machine under Linux Mandrake as a development |server. I have for that an IBM 300 GL with |an IBM 10/100 Etherjet PCI Adapter. | |If I read well the list of supported hardware |from mandrake.com site, this adapter is not |supported. | |Before chasing for another distribution, I just |want to make sure that this adapter is really not |supported. | |So, if somebody has the info :) Thank you in advance :) | |Benjamin Lupu |Product Development Manager AOL/CompuServe France |office : + 33 1 41 45 85 25 |e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: [newbie] How to set internet in Linux Mandrake????????
Thanks, I am using a modem, I don't know what is kppp, and how to use it, would you like please help me. Thanks Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, majid L wrote: Just installed Linux Mandrake, I am using two internet in windows 98, one from my school ( ppp account) and another free internet, could you please show me how to do the same thing under Linux, what do I have to set. Your help will be appreciated. Do you use a modem? Use kppp. Do you use ISDN? Use http://www.wurtel.demon.nl Do you use something else? Don't know... Paul -- Do you work to live? Or do you live to work? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 __ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com
Re: [newbie] Printer Epson
Does your application send the print job to the correct port? Check the basics first. See ya' Gustavo Halperin wrote: I have the printer Epson Stylus Color 670 The Linux Mandrake was know this in the configuration hardware, but when I send any think is not print, What I can to do -- _/_/_/_/.._/. _/._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/ _/.._/._/_/_/_/.. ..._/..._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/.._/_/.._/._/... .._/..._/_/.._/._/._/_/_/_/..._/..._/_/_/_/..._/..._/.._/._/ ._/.._/.._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/_/._/..._/._/. _/_/_/_/.._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/.._/..._/.._/._/_/..._/_/_/_/.. .Gustavo Halperin... .Paradigm Geophysical..\\\Y///. [EMAIL PROTECTED]\\ ^ ^ // .972-9-9709318..(/ @ @ \).. -oOOo-(_)-oOOo- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [newbie] Make Rescue/Bootdisk?
Yeah there is
at the command prompt type:
$ mkbootdisk 2.2.14-15mdk
Noting:
-replace 2.2.14-15mdk with the kernel version for 7.1
-you need a floppy in the drive 8)
When you re-install Win98 the LILO or GRUB *WILL* be lost.
Also note that if your cdrom is bootable you can use the Mandrake Install disc
to boot linux.
Hi all,
I'm very new to this stuff.
I finally have a Mandrake 7.1 distribution up and running at home.
I'd like to create a "rescue" or "bootdisk" diskette. {I'm planning to
re-install the Win98 portion of my "dual boot" machine - but I'm worried
about the possibility of not being able to get back into Mandrake.}
Is there an 'easy' way to do this?
Ron Luther
Telxon Corporation
RE: [newbie] Make Rescue/Bootdisk?
Thanks Much Tom!! That sounds a heck of a lot better than the 40+ pages or so I was trying to wade through at http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/index.html http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/index.html Super! Ron L. -Original Message- From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject:Re: [newbie] Make Rescue/Bootdisk? Sure, have a floppy ready and type, mkbootdisk $(uname -r)
Re: [newbie] Make Rescue/Bootdisk?
"Luther, Ron" wrote: Hi all, I'm very new to this stuff. Is there an 'easy' way to do this? [make a rescue diskette] Open up a terminal window if you are not at the command line already and become root with the "su" command. Then you can just use the "mkbootdisk" command. You need to type the kernel version after mkbootdisk, which you can find out from the "uname -a" command. There is more information available from the "man mkbootdisk" command. I found all this by typing "apropos boot" and reading the man pages for the programs that sounded like what I wanted. Apropos is real useful for us newcomers :). There may be an easier way but I didn't find it. Jim
Re: [newbie] StarOffice5.1KpackageInstalling
Dear All, Thank you for your help. I found the installation file because of your input. I still do not know how I go the StarOffice installed from the kpackage into the /opt/office but somehow I did. I imagine the other programs need to be installed the same way so I hope I can figure out what I did. Could anyone tell me exactly how to install a program from kpackage into a file? Thank you very much , Marcia
RE: [newbie] 7.1 resolution (as in screen)
Hi B.B. What is the maximum resolution your monitor can handle? What is the setting for resolution in X that you use when you change to somthing better (Victory Erazor II PCI card)? What is your actual video card? I have been trying to make things smaller in my 15" monitor at 1024x768, I dont mean a greater resolution, but just smaller bars and icons. Hugo Hugo GONZALEZ MIS Cuernavaca Mexico -Original Message- From: toyswins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.1 resolution (as in screen) I've got the same problem with KDE in Linux Mandrake 6.5. Most windows are larger than my screen resolution. If I make the system use something better, (Victory Erazor II PCI card), the "stuff" is so tiny on my 15" monitor I can't read it, even with my brand new bifocals!! KDE windows don't all respond the same to resizing either, so in some cases can't get to the option buttons, (always on the bottom). I'd be very interested in any and all solutions from the experts out there also. Right now I'm battling ppp problems, haven't gotten back into networking SAMBA in this new version and my sound card.well, never mind that for now. Off to work in a couple hours so will check this again late this evening, South Texas time that is. See ya' B. B. Stanfield KC5PIY Adrian Smith wrote: ah, so it's not just me. i thought maybe i was going nuts i spent a few hours yesterday playing with linux again to see what i could do (i got disgusted after windoze took a dive on me). at the moment i am using Enlightenment as it's work spaces allow a window to overlap, so if it's off the current work space, i can just bounce over to another one by moving the mouse. this is a really great feature which doesn't seem to exist with the other window managers -- or if it does, i simply don't know how to configure them to make this happen. now if i could just get the pop up menus to sit still, i'd be pretty happy with this window manager. the pop ups are tiny jump all over the darn place. there was another window manager (i done forgot which one) that had wonderful pop ups that stay open and right where you leave 'em this is good stuff, but it's making me use my brain i hate that Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digital Wokan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3:01:41 PM 7/3/00 I noticed that, too. I think it has to do with the Sawmill/Sawfish WM. If there's a way of disabling/removing it to restore the alt-drag way of moving windows, that would probably solve your problem. Adrian Smith wrote: okie dokie, now that i know the correct way to post to the list... thanks David for pointing out that it's Newbie... and not newbie by the way, am i the only one alive who thinks that computers, files, URLs etc should not be case sensitive? do things really have to be made as difficult as possible? just so ya know where i'm at in the linux world - i've used apples (still have my apple IIc) macs, PCs under dos windoze. mastered all of them. done some very basic programing (BASIC and assembly). installed configured many dos/windoze systems - so i know my way 'round computers more or less. never used unix or linux before however - so i'm having to learn this new language from the bottom up. ok, but now my first real question background - my box is one of the cheaper (read junk) compaq models - it's at home, i'm at work, don't have the specs with me. anyhow, i installed mandrake 7.0 and played with it a bit. since my video card adhears to the lowest standards i can only get 640 X 480, or so it seems - i tried out some attempts at 800 X 600 in linux, none of them worked (nor can i get 8x6 in windoze) so it looks like i'm stuck. some of the linux programs open up in screens larger than my screen resolution. it seems that a linux window can only be resized with the lower right corner?? well in 7.0 there was some key/mouse combo that would let you grab a window at any place and move it around. so at least i could work around it. got my 7.1 disk and installed the new flavor. same problem - only now the key/mouse combo doesn't work. or else i can't remember it - tho i tried every possible combination that seemed obvious. since the bottom of the window is often off the screen, i can't resize it. so question must be this if i want to use linux am i going to have to get a video card that does 800x600, and will linux be able to find use that one instead of the one on the motherboard without causing problems? thanks much... expect to see a whole lot more of me Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Swap File
Harry Flaxman wrote: One thing I've just noticed about my 7.0 setup that the partition info for the swap file never seemed to get assigned. Now, when I boot Linuxit says swap file initializedfailed. Is there anyway to move partition info in Linux without destroying the system, and re-assigning the swap partition? I have 256mb of ram, and was wondering if a swap is needed. The system seems stable and running well without it. Can I just let it be, the way it is. Thanks. Harry -- ___ Harry Flaxman http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman ICQ # 22086907 Harry, Run Drakeconf there is a utility in there that will allow you to change the size of your swap file. At the moment I can't remember off the top of my head what it is, I'm not at home, but I remember seeing something the other day while I was looking around. Also there is a great config utility on your system called Webmin that my be able to assist you with this. It's very powerful. I would check there before using Drakeconf. It's much more user friendly. To access Webmin start your browser. The address is http://127.0.0.1:1 I think you'll be surprised by what you find there. Login as root and have at it. -- Mark I love my Linux box... REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563
Re: [newbie] Swap File
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Harry Flaxman wrote: One thing I've just noticed about my 7.0 setup that the partition info for the swap file never seemed to get assigned. Now, when I boot Linuxit says swap file initializedfailed. Is there anyway to move partition info in Linux without destroying the system, and re-assigning the swap partition? I have 256mb of ram, and was wondering if a swap is needed. The system seems stable and running well without it. Can I just let it be, the way it is. sure. and if you don't smoke, you don't really need a smoke detector in your house. heh, optimism is a good thing. ...joakim
Re: [newbie] PPP connection for other than root
Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: Hello everyone! What should I do to use a PPP dialup conection to internet whithout going into drakconf/network/PPP? I'd like to have a sort of shortcut so I dont have to go into drakconf (and type root's password). Is this possible? Thanks in advance. Hugo If you are usin KDE desktop there should be an icon on the desktop that says internet, or click on the K button and find KPPP under "internet" either way click on the icon or the KPPP and then the setup button and you can set up for dialup right off of the desktop. Dennis
RE: [newbie] Make Rescue/Bootdisk?
Thanks Jim, KDM, Tom!! I'm reading as fast as I can ... but this list is a BIG help! Ron -Original Message- From: Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject:Re: [newbie] Make Rescue/Bootdisk? "mkbootdisk" command. You need to type the kernel version after mkbootdisk, which you can find out from the "uname -a" command. There is more information available from the "man mkbootdisk" command. I found all this by typing "apropos boot" and reading the man pages for the programs that sounded like what I wanted. Apropos is real useful for us newcomers :). There may be an easier way but I didn't find it.
[newbie] Missing basesystem error on install
I've installed Slackware and Redhat on other computers in the past, and a friend recommended Mandrake so I thought I'd give it a try. I'm trying to put Mandrake on an empty partition of a computer where the first three partitions are devoted to Windows NT. I downloaded the 7.1 iso CD-R image file and burned an installation CD. Then I created a boot disk and rebooted. The installation seemed to go fine. I created a simple partition setup -- one 200MB swap partition and a 4000MB+ root partition. The very next step after that is choosing packages to install. I get the error: Looking for available packages An error occurred: Missing basesystem package Then it goes back to the partition menu. If I click DONE I get another menu: Package Group Selection * Miscellaneous * Individual Package Selection Regardless of which of these choices I select, or both, or neither, when I click to go to the next step I get: An error occurred Illegal division by zero At first I guessed that I'd mis-burned the CD, I mean "missing basesystem package" sure sounds like it can't find a file on the CD... so I rebooted to NT and burned a new copy of the CD-R. The second disk exhibited the same problems as the first. So now I'm thinking that the iso image file itself is corrupt, but after searching lots of newsgroups, I can't find anyone else who's having the same problem, so somehow I doubt that's it. Is it looking for the "basesystem package" on the CD? Anyone have any ideas as to what's happening?
Re: [newbie] partition (drive) access
Charles, I don't have partition magic. I used the utility during the install to partition the disk. Might there be another way? I'll look for patition magic to download but i'm connected really slowly so I'm not sure if i'd be able to get it. thank you Sean Sean Let me see if I have your info correctly. You have 1 hd on which you have 2 Windows partitions (CD) and an extended Linux partition. When your Linux partitions were created your Win D was changed from Active to Hidden because normally you would have only 1 active partition per hd. If it is hidden Windows can not see it. Linux dosen't care and can see any thing except BeOS. I am guessing that you have PM. If so then launch it. Select what should be your D partition and from the Operation menu choose Advanced/ Set Active. You will get a warning message about your Drive letters changing and reccomending that you don't do it, but do it anyway. Once you reboot your system Windows will once again see both your C D partitions. Charles - Original Message - From: "Sean David McCurry-Nieto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 6:51 PM Subject: [newbie] partition (drive) access I was wondering if someone could answer a technical question for me. Recently I installed Mandrake 7.1 on my personal computer. Mandrake will automaticaly mount your media for you, whether it's HDs, zips, cds, etc. I am using a dual boot system, windows and then of course linux. On the windows partition I have two drives, C:\ and D:\ Well when I am running Linux, I can see both of the windows partitions and can even access the files across the partition (from Linux onto windows). But when I boot into Windows I can't see the D:\ drive. I can access the C but can't even see the D. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what I can do to resolve this? Sean
Re: [newbie] How to set internet in Linux Mandrake????????
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote: Thanks, I am using a modem, I don't know what is kppp, and how to use it, would you like please help me. Thanks Hi Click on the internet icon on the desktop. Click on setup and fill in all the relevant details for your connection and modem. Click on ok and then connect. Andrew.
Re: [newbie] IBM 10/100 Etherjet PCI Adapter
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before chasing for another distribution, I just want to make sure that this adapter is really not supported. The ultimate test would be to install Linux and see what happens. Usually when you see that the device is not supported, it is not supported. But you could check the IBM website to see if they have become brave and went out of their way to write a driver that works with Linux. Paul -- Do you work to live? Or do you live to work? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
[newbie] Registered Linux User (was Reconfiguring X)
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Armisis Aieoln wrote: Whats this registered Linux user # stuff??? Is there a multi distrobution registration now? and if so wouldent that go against the freedom of linux idea? dave There is this place on the internet, called http://counter.li.org, that gives you a chance to register yourself as a Linux user. This has nothing to do with any kind of distribution, kind, shape or flavor of Linux. Just an attempt to keep track of how many people use Linux. Paul -- Do you work to live? Or do you live to work? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] 3COM 3C905C-TX Network Card
On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Intercom wrote: At the 3com website there seems to be a proper working driver available. Paul Hi, i hope anyone can help with this: I can't install driver for network card 3COM 3C905C-TX External Parallel Interface 100 MB I'm using LM 7.0 Deluxe with kernel 2.2.14-15MDK Thanks -- Do you work to live? Or do you live to work? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Printer Epson
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Gustavo Halperin wrote: Sorry, but I don't understand what is mean : and set-up your printer and spool. Can you explain to me please. Eric MC DECLERCK wrote: Try to reconfigure your printer with: Drakconf, printer, and set-up your printer and spool. Eric Run DrakConf Select Printer Make sure you have a printer selected that is compatible with your printer. Set up the proper printer port in the program too. (LP0 = LPT1) Tell the printer configuration program in what directory the spool-entries (this means: what will be printed) will be stored. Linux puts all printfiles in a separate directory from where the printer-daemon will get its work and feed it to the printer. Paul -- Do you work to live? Or do you live to work? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Make Rescue/Bootdisk?
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Luther, Ron wrote:
I finally have a Mandrake 7.1 distribution up and running at home.
Congratulations. A smart move.
I'd like to create a "rescue" or "bootdisk" diskette. {I'm planning to
re-install the Win98 portion of my "dual boot" machine - but I'm worried
about the possibility of not being able to get back into Mandrake.}
Is there an 'easy' way to do this?
Yes. it is called
mkbootdisk
Note that you can only run it as root.
Good luck!
Paul
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Re: [newbie] Printer Epson
When in KDE click on 'Drakconf'. Then click on Printer configuration. Eric Gustavo Halperin wrote: Sorry, but I don't understand what is mean : and set-up your printer and spool. Can you explain to me please. Eric MC DECLERCK wrote: Try to reconfigure your printer with: Drakconf, printer, and set-up your printer and spool. Eric Gustavo Halperin wrote: I have the printer Epson Stylus Color 670 The Linux Mandrake was know this in the configuration hardware, but when I send any think is not print, What I can to do
Re: [newbie] How to set internet in Linux Mandrake????????
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, majid L wrote: Thanks, I am using a modem, I don't know what is kppp, and how to use it, would you like please help me. Thanks If you are running the KDE desktop, just open the menu, go to INTERNET, and you will find KPPP there. Go into the setup bits and pieces, it should fairly much be self-explanatory. (Otherwise ask the modem users here.) Then you should ask about not being able to get anywhere, and we will explain about /etc/resolv.conf, where you need to write search your-isp nameserver dns-ip-address1 nameserver dns-ip-address2 And we'll see you online through linux! Good luck! Paul -- Do you work to live? Or do you live to work? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
RE: [newbie] PPP connection for other than root
Thanks Dennis. And what about if I use Gnome? Hugo GONZALEZ MIS Cuernavaca Mexico -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 11:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] PPP connection for other than root Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: Hello everyone! What should I do to use a PPP dialup conection to internet whithout going into drakconf/network/PPP? I'd like to have a sort of shortcut so I dont have to go into drakconf (and type root's password). Is this possible? Thanks in advance. Hugo If you are usin KDE desktop there should be an icon on the desktop that says internet, or click on the K button and find KPPP under "internet" either way click on the icon or the KPPP and then the setup button and you can set up for dialup right off of the desktop. Dennis
[newbie] SB Live! Value card won't work
Hi, I've just installed an SB Live! Value PCI sound card and I can't get the darn thing to work in MDK7.0. What I've done is run sndconfig and then the card gets detected and it says it is going to run a sample sound. When it goes to do this i get the following error message: modprobe error The following error occurred running the modprobe program: /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/misc/emu10k1 o: init_module: Device or resource busy. After the autoconfiguration fails it says it will do a manual configuration. Then it gives the list of cards, I pick the Sound Blaster Live! card and then the above process is repeated. (at no stage am i given the option to enter the settings manually for the sound blaster card) So now I try another manual configuration with a different card, that being the Sound Blaster 16. This time I am allowed to enter the settings available. So I enter the following: I/O Port 0x220 IRQ5 DMA11 DMA25 MPU I/O0x330 Doing this and hitting enter results in me being cast out of sndconfig and back to the terminal with the following message on the terminal: [/root]# /usr/sbin/sndconfig Segmentation fault (core dumped) [/root]# I have tried manual configurations with all the sound blaster cards and other cards with the available settings as indicated above. I then read somewhere that there could be an IRQ conflict due to PNP being enabled in the bios, So I went into the bios and there I found no way of disabling PNP but I did find the list of IRQ's and noticed IRQ[5] was reserved so I changed this to being available. I then proceeded to repeat the long process described above with the same result (device resource busy) and being thrown out of sndconfig to a message saying - Segmentation fault (core dump). I am a newbie so going into files and editing them etc. is completely beyond me, I just wouldn't know where to start. If anyone could enlighten me as to how I can fixed this I would be very grateful! Adriaan
RE: [newbie] Missing basesystem error on install
Hi Earl, I also had a bad file the first time I downloaded the 7.1 install ISO file. I downloaded the file a second time, cut it to disk, and it worked fine! (The first disk is serving as a coaster for my diet coke!) HTH, Ron -Original Message- From: Earl C. Ruby III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject:[newbie] "Missing basesystem" error on install
Re: [newbie] Registered Linux User (was Reconfiguring X)
Paul wrote: On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Armisis Aieoln wrote: > >Whats this registered Linux user # stuff??? > >Is there a multi distrobution registration now? and if so wouldent that go >against the freedom of linux idea? > >dave There is this place on the internet, called http://counter.li.org, that gives you a chance to register yourself as a Linux user. This has nothing to do with any kind of distribution, kind, shape or flavor of Linux. Just an attempt to keep track of how many people use Linux. Paul -- Do you work to live? Or do you live to work? )0( [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] )0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 The site has a nice GIFF you could add to your signature block like I will as soon as I figure out how to make it show up. Dennis -- GIF87a
Re: [newbie] partition (drive) access
Sean You can not download a working copy of PM. I have used PM for almost all of my partitioning so I have no first hand knowledge as to wheather fdisk or any other utility will allow you to set your D partition as active. Since you created your D partition when you installed Mandrake does that mean that you don,t actually have any data on it? If it is just an empty Fat partition you can boot to your 7.1 installation CD, go through to the partition utility, delete D, and resize C to take back the space. After it has been written to disk cancel the installation.and reboot your system. You will now have only one Windows partition but it's size will now be that of C D combined. Charles - Original Message - From: "Sean David McCurry-Nieto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] partition (drive) access Charles, I don't have partition magic. I used the utility during the install to partition the disk. Might there be another way? I'll look for patition magic to download but i'm connected really slowly so I'm not sure if i'd be able to get it. thank you Sean Sean Let me see if I have your info correctly. You have 1 hd on which you have 2 Windows partitions (CD) and an extended Linux partition. When your Linux partitions were created your Win D was changed from Active to Hidden because normally you would have only 1 active partition per hd. If it is hidden Windows can not see it. Linux dosen't care and can see any thing except BeOS. I am guessing that you have PM. If so then launch it. Select what should be your D partition and from the Operation menu choose Advanced/ Set Active. You will get a warning message about your Drive letters changing and reccomending that you don't do it, but do it anyway. Once you reboot your system Windows will once again see both your C D partitions. Charles - Original Message - From: "Sean David McCurry-Nieto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 6:51 PM Subject: [newbie] partition (drive) access I was wondering if someone could answer a technical question for me. Recently I installed Mandrake 7.1 on my personal computer. Mandrake will automaticaly mount your media for you, whether it's HDs, zips, cds, etc. I am using a dual boot system, windows and then of course linux. On the windows partition I have two drives, C:\ and D:\ Well when I am running Linux, I can see both of the windows partitions and can even access the files across the partition (from Linux onto windows). But when I boot into Windows I can't see the D:\ drive. I can access the C but can't even see the D. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what I can do to resolve this? Sean
Re: [newbie] StarOffice5.1KpackageInstalling
You can just click on the package out of kfm in kde. That brings up the package program and offers you options. Harry Marcia Waller wrote: Dear All, Thank you for your help. I found the installation file because of your input. I still do not know how I go the StarOffice installed from the kpackage into the /opt/office but somehow I did. I imagine the other programs need to be installed the same way so I hope I can figure out what I did. Could anyone tell me exactly how to install a program from kpackage into a file? Thank you very much , Marcia -- ___ Harry Flaxman http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman ICQ # 22086907
[newbie] LM 7.1 destroys working Linux installation
hello ppl ! i recently decided to upgrade to mandrake 7.1 air, from ver 6.1. i got the gpl-version, 2 cd´s, booted from cdrom and everything went fine. chose "upgrade" and then installation process told me that it was searching for packets which need to be upgraded and that i was later able to chose which of them i would like to upgrade. after a while setup finished searching and simply started installing packages - without prompting me to choose ! i didnt want to interrupt the installation process because a feared linux wouldnt work at all if i did, so i left it installing.mandrake air intalled 2 hours (!!) packetsafter that i thought i would get the chance to do all the settings like user managment, printer, x, and the most important one : creating a boot disk !!but mandrake didnt do anything of these things..i simply saw some dialog boxes rushing over my screen, and finally a last dialog box told me that linux was now completly installed and that i could now reboot my computer.. i was somehow amazed about this..but i restarted...and guess : after choosing "Linux" from my win nt bootmanager i only got 2 characters to see from LILO.: LI nothing more..completly dead..i hoped to be able to start it from my previous boot disk.from version 6.1..i inserted ..linux began booting from floppy and finally i got somrthing like : insert root floppy and hit enter ! i didnt have some other boot floppy from linuxthis was the only disk i created during setup of ver. 6.1 so i hit enter and got after some seconds : kernel panic : no init found... i really dont know what was going on..i had a full operating and functionally linux 6.1which took me 6 months to set up..and now everything is gone.. i would really appreciate if someone could tell me what the hell mandrake air did with my WORKING LINUX INSTALLATIONaargh.--- please anybody tell me whether it is completly fucked up or whether theres a way to recover or to access 7.1... btw..it didnt fuck up my win98 installation..at least..some good thing.. --quaylar ...a resignated linux newbie
Re: [newbie] Modem Audio
Barry Premeaux wrote: On Monday, I replaced Calderas Open Linux 2.2 with Mandrake 7.1. Really love the install. It went smoothly with Mandrake finding all my hardware, including my Stylus Color 850. My SB128 sound card performs far better than it ever did with COL 2.2. The only problem I have is the small internal speaker that plugs in the ASUS P5A motherboard does not seem to be operational. The only reason I miss it is that I can no longer listen to the modem dial out and hear the handshake. The modem is an internal 56K with the Rockwell chip set. It came with the PC from QLI-Tech. Neither the modem board or the little user manual identify the manufacturer. The modem works fine and the log screen shows the 'ATM0L1" initialization string. It isn't a major problem, but I'm clueless as to where I should go to resolve it. -- Barry :-) This might sound odd, but my "warbling" modem tone comes though my speakers attached to my SBLive card...there is a short cable that goes from my internal Supra Diamond modem to my soundcard... -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Realplayer and icons etc.
Dennis Myers wrote: Well I tried the b2.bin download and did a chmod and the ./INSTALL , nothing happened. No install to or anything just took me back to the "root@localhost "# line. There must be a pattern to downloads and installations that I am missing cause I don't see consistancy in the way these programs are installed. Anyway, I now will begin to try to uninstall and try to regain my verve for Linux. Some of this seems to much like a guessing game, guess where the file is, guess where you should put it and then guess if it will work correctly. I think that you are looking at it too hard. All it takes is 2 lines to install I D/Led it to root then : Rename the uncompressed file. Type mv rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2_rpm rp7.linux20.libc6.i386.b2.rpm To install this package, use the standard rpm install command. You must be logged in as root to install this package. Type rpm -i rp7.linux20.libc6.i386.b2.rpm And bingo! it works!!! MarkP
Re: [newbie] The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!
I had the same problem Changed flow control to xon/xoff and suddenly it worked! MarkP >toyswins wrote: Well, sorry but having to revert to you folks for help. Get this message on dialing so the other end is hanging up immediately on connect. I've checked the various files in the HOWTO's and all seems fine. Used KPPP 1.6.22 as the dialer and to set up the system. pppd is 2.3.8 so I've provided the full fault message below. I've reloaded the entire Linux Mandrake 6.5 two times, no changes. All the startup files load okay. As root, it's a pretty system, but hit this glitch. pppd 2.3.8 started by root, uid0 Using interface ppp0 Connect ppp0--->/dev/ttyS1 Hangup (SIGHUP) Modemhangup Connection terminated. Exit This is what I understand so far: The modem is found, dials and gets a machine on the other end. The other machine then immediately initiated a disconnect, (SIGHUP), then it disconnects at my end, gives me the error message. ISP is S. W. Bell. I've got the ADSL on the Windows system going fine, but it dies now and then, also I travel and need access from other locations. The dialup on LINUX would be really handy, if I could get it to work. I know there's either a bug or three and need to update to something or I've got some configuration problem. Either way, I've looked at it so long I'm not seeing it. Pointers Thanks B. B. Stanfield III KC5PIY
Re: [newbie] SB Live! Value card won't work
Hi Adriaan, At a minimum you most likely need the latest emu10k1 driver - you can download it from www.opensource.creativelabs.com. Untar the file and follow the instructions on the Readme to compile and install - I have had to do that with my SBLive! for both 7.0 and 7.1 . cheers, philomena At 07:23 PM 7/6/00 +, you wrote: Hi, I've just installed an SB Live! Value PCI sound card and I can't get the darn thing to work in MDK7.0. What I've done is run sndconfig and then the card gets detected and it says it is going to run a sample sound. When it goes to do this i get the following error message: modprobe error The following error occurred running the modprobe program: /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/misc/emu10k1 o: init_module: Device or resource busy. After the autoconfiguration fails it says it will do a manual configuration. Then it gives the list of cards, I pick the Sound Blaster Live! card and then the above process is repeated. (at no stage am i given the option to enter the settings manually for the sound blaster card) So now I try another manual configuration with a different card, that being the Sound Blaster 16. This time I am allowed to enter the settings available. So I enter the following: I/O Port 0x220 IRQ5 DMA11 DMA25 MPU I/O0x330 Doing this and hitting enter results in me being cast out of sndconfig and back to the terminal with the following message on the terminal: [/root]# /usr/sbin/sndconfig Segmentation fault (core dumped) [/root]# I have tried manual configurations with all the sound blaster cards and other cards with the available settings as indicated above. I then read somewhere that there could be an IRQ conflict due to PNP being enabled in the bios, So I went into the bios and there I found no way of disabling PNP but I did find the list of IRQ's and noticed IRQ[5] was reserved so I changed this to being available. I then proceeded to repeat the long process described above with the same result (device resource busy) and being thrown out of sndconfig to a message saying - Segmentation fault (core dump). I am a newbie so going into files and editing them etc. is completely beyond me, I just wouldn't know where to start. If anyone could enlighten me as to how I can fixed this I would be very grateful! Adriaan
[newbie] MOUNT POINTS
I just started using linux, and can come one explain what a mount point is and what each one does. Please. Erik begin 600 winmail.dat M)\^(C`4`0:0"``$```!``$``00!@`(Y`0```#H``$(@`` M$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`06``P`.T`'``8` M#0`S``P`!``T`0$@@`,`#@```-`'!P```T`-``N``0`5P$!"8`!`"$R M1C)#,#(Y-30X-3-$-#$Q03%#,C`P.3`R-SA!0S,R1@#K!@$$@`$`#0```$U/ M54Y4(%!/24Y44P"0`P$-@`0``@(``@`!`Y``!P```P`P`(@`@@ M!@``P$8`4H4``"=J`0```F`""```#` M1@!4A0```00Y+C``"P`*@`@@!@``P$8` M!H4#``N`""```#`1@`!A0L``(`( M(`8``,!``.%"P`4@`@@!@``P``` M`$8`#H4#``*`""```#`1@`0A0`` M``,`%8`((`8``,!`!%`P`7@`@@!@`` MP$8`(4`":`""```#`1@`V MA0```0$`'@`G@`@@!@``P$8`-X4```$` M```!`!X`*(`((`8``,!`#B%```!`0`` M```"`0D0`0```,X```#*^0```$Q:1G5DME^1`P`*`')CQ,C46 M,@#X"V!N#A`P,S-/`?"I`/C`@!C:`K`[!E=#`@!Q,"@'T*@9)V")!W:PN` M9#0,8`YC`%`+`PNU($D@:EQUP5`%!`*P'0)@"`C%``+@@;`N`=7CL+"`` M[EMAIL PROTECTED]!:`'@"8@`B`605X"U,@=U,0\`5`82`$8'4","!\\+@`5`!``5 M@QC924`T@64V1O!Y`N(-@@4P9$!$@+@JB"H2UL9%!1!KH01X0`@``` M'@!P``$-34]53E0@4$])3E13``(!0`!%@_YXO3 M(9OJ*)U3?A'4J^`4-JT10@```L``@`!`P`)60,#`-X_KV\``$`` M.0"@;9KKB^_`0,`\3\)!```'@`Q0`$3$5%14H#`!I` M`!X`,$`!!@```$Q%145*`P`90``#`/T_Y`0```,`)@`` M`P`V```#`(`0_P(!1P`!-P```,]55,[83T@.W`]3U)'04Y) M6D%424]..VP],TU!5S,W,#%%+3`P,#P-C(P-3$Q,EHM,S4P,@'Y/P$` M``!@`-RG0,C`0A`:M+D(`"LOX8(!`"]//4]21T%.25I! M5$E/3B]/53TS34%7+T-./4U74TS-R!214-)4$E%3E13+T-./4U74U,S-S,@ M4S8O0TX]3$5%14H`'@#X/P$035E($Q#P@17)I:R!*`!X`.$`! M!@```$Q%145*`@'[/P$```!@`-RG0,C`0A`:M+D(`"LO MX8(!`"]//4]21T%.25I!5$E/3B]/53TS34%7+T-./4U74TS-R!2 M14-)4$E%3E13+T-./4U74U,S-S,@4S8O0TX]3$5%14H`'@#Z/P$0 M35E($Q#P@17)I:R!*`!X`.4`!!@```$Q%145*0``',+`CF.N+ MY[\!0``(,"87L".,Y[\!'@`]``$!`!X`'0X!#0```$U/ M54Y4(%!/24Y44P``#40`0```#,\.34T1CDV,C0T-S9$1#,Q,4$Q M.3`P,#DP,CX04,S,D9-#0S,3=`,TU!5S,W,#%%/@``"P`I```+`",` M``,`!A"O3PJK`P`'$%@#`!`0``,`$1``'@`($`$```!9 M24I54U135$%25$5$55-)3D=,24Y56"Q!3D1#04Y#3TU%3TY%15A03$%) M3E=(051!34]53E103TE.5$E304Y$5TA!5$5!0TA/3D5$3T534$Q%05-%15)) M2P`"`7\``0```#,\.34T1CDV,C0T-S9$1#,Q,4$Q.3`P,#DP,CX :04,S,D9-#0S,3=`,TU!5S,W,#%%/@``71,= ` end
[newbie] To the GRUB users
Hi guys, Well, I decided to try the GRUB bootloader instead of LILO. Need help to do it. Hard-disks: 2 /boot installed at HD1 hda5 = logical partition in extended. / installed at HD2 = primary partition. To try it, I want to boot from the floppy (fd0) No pb with 1024st cyl. are LBA's. Thanks in advance.
Re: [newbie] Reconfiguring X
Denis has a Linux Counter for Linux users. Register yourself and you will be assigned a number. It's basically to keep count of how many users are interested and are using Linux. It's free with no strings attached. Don't worry it's not a direct line to the FBI or Bill G. Just joking. You will not lose your rights. Linux belongs to the public. I registered. Navigate to http://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik/ and register. We all did and we're still free. Roman (Registered Linux User #179293) Armisis Aieoln wrote: Whats this registered Linux user # stuff??? Is there a multi distrobution registration now? and if so wouldent that go against the freedom of linux idea? dave I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Wed, 5 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I had a power outage while inside KDE, and my X server wasn't able to shutdown properly. Now whenever I startup Mandrake, and thus when it goes into the graphical login, I get a garbled mess on my screen indicating my X settings have been corrupted (if I shall use the term correctly). What I wish to know is to how to abort starting X automatically on startup so I can reconfigure X from VC. I appreciate any response or help. Kenny -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= LINUX - Why? Cause I dont do windows -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: [newbie] MOUNT POINTS
hi eric, hope i deciphered your name correctly out of your email addy! in linux all your files and directorys (folders) are all part of one 'tree' or hierachy, there are no seperate drive letters for each physical hard disk or partition. instead each partition is 'mounted' on a directory of your choice. an example is, in windows you may have a c,d, and an e drive, in linux you may choose to see thses drives as /mnt/drivec, /mnt/drived and /mnt/drivee, if you were to mount the drives like this then a file that windows sees as d:\some folder\somefile.ext would appear in your linux sysyem as /mnt/drived/some folder/somefile.ext, note that /mnt/drived is a directory that you get to choose when you mount the drive or partition, you can choose any directory name to mount a partition on (use an empty directory or any files that are already in it before mounting a partition there will become invisible). also the files that make up linux are also on partitions and these are mounted as part of the linux filesystem, when installing linux you will neeed to choose a partition to be known as / and it is usually a good idea to have a seperate partition that is known as /home, that way if you save work in /home and have to reinstall linux you can aviod formatting /home and keep your work. there are other traditional mount points for linux files, it is common to have a seperate partition for /usr since a lot of basic system files get put there by the installtion process. how you partition your hard disk and what mount points you create for linux files depends a lot on how many physical disks you have and what their capacity is. a lot of people disagree as to exactly what is the best 'scheme' for partitioning and mounting and i am not such an expert that i like to get drawn into such discussions! i hope this goes some way to answering your question, if not then let us know, there are far more knowledgable people on this list than me! bascule Lee LCpl Erik J wrote: I just started using linux, and can come one explain what a mount point is and what each one does. Please. Erik Name: winmail.dat winmail.datType: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) Encoding: x-uuencode
Re: [newbie] Hard drive compromised by Mandrake install
This begs a BIG question. If, from your previous experience, you're aware of problems Linux has with your particular video card why are you surprised that Mandrake has the same, or similar problems during installation? Why not just change video cards to accomodate Linux since you obviously like the OS, and clearly Winblows couldn't care less? I'd say that would take care of the problem and you would be free to keep on trying all the different flavors and versions of Linux that are populating the computer world and keeping you occupied with hours of fun. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All Having tried various flavours of Linux (RH 5.2 - 6.1, SuSE 6.0 - 6.3) I thought I'd try Mandrake. Followed my usual practice of clearing some space(3.5G) on my 2nd drive using Partition Magic 3.0 and running the installation CD. Everything seemed to go fine, quite impressed in fact, then, as has happened with all the other distros, graphics card gets probed and bye bye install. Never mind, been there before, start clean and try again with text installer. Problem. PM 3.0 now tells me it doesn't recognise the 2nd drive's signature (or words to that effect) so it's not going to play anymore. Win 95, astonishingly, seems quite happy with it! It can see it's 1.3G FAT32 partition and doesn't seem concerned about anything else. Just to see if the Mandrake installer could figure out what it had done, tried it again only to be told my drive was corrupt and it was giving up! (Once again words to that effect - this happened a few weeks ago). Fdisk(DOS) and FIPS indicate some problems with overlapping partition boundaries or something. H/W setup:- Gateway 2000 P5 200MMX 64M Virge/VX 4M Ensonic Soundscape VIVO 90 Fujitsu 6.4G, Maxtor 4.8G 2 brand X CDR. TV card, modem, scanner etc. There are obviously a number of possible solutions to the problem which, being a byte botherer of too many years experience, I could probably work out, but the question is:- WHY DID IT HAPPEN? Any clues anyone? (Is this a known problem?) Bye for now Graham ** This transmission is confidential and must not be used or disclosed by anyone other than the intended recipient. Neither Corus Group Plc nor any of its subsidiaries can accept any responsibility for any use or misuse of the transmission by anyone. **
Re: [newbie] Hard drive compromised by Mandrake install
something else I forgot to mention. NEVER use FIPS on a HDD that you intend to use all the time, or one that you intend to keep. Use FIPS and you're welcoming any and all problems that you can imagine on your HDD. Overlapping partitions is one of the most common problems associated with the program and just the beginning of your sorrows. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, kdm wrote: I have installed many types of Linuxs(Redhat, Debian, SuSe, Mandrake, Slack, all x86), but I have never seen an install corrupt a hard drive. It sounds as if Partition Magic has corrupted your partition table. Maybe use fdisk to clean it up? -...graphic card gets probed and bye bye install. Never mind, been there before, start clean and try again...- Sounds as if you need a better video card manufacturer 8) Hello All Having tried various flavours of Linux (RH 5.2 - 6.1, SuSE 6.0 - 6.3) I thought I'd try Mandrake. Followed my usual practice of clearing some space(3.5G) on my 2nd drive using Partition Magic 3.0 and running the installation CD. Everything seemed to go fine, quite impressed in fact, then, as has happened with all the other distros, graphics card gets probed and bye bye install. Never mind, been there before, start clean and try again with text installer. Problem. PM 3.0 now tells me it doesn't recognise the 2nd drive's signature (or words to that effect) so it's not going to play anymore. Win 95, astonishingly, seems quite happy with it! It can see it's 1.3G FAT32 partition and doesn't seem concerned about anything else. Just to see if the Mandrake installer could figure out what it had done, tried it again only to be told my drive was corrupt and it was giving up! (Once again words to that effect - this happened a few weeks ago). Fdisk(DOS) and FIPS indicate some problems with overlapping partition boundaries or something. H/W setup:- Gateway 2000 P5 200MMX 64M Virge/VX 4M Ensonic Soundscape VIVO 90 Fujitsu 6.4G, Maxtor 4.8G 2 brand X CDR. TV card, modem, scanner etc. There are obviously a number of possible solutions to the problem which, being a byte botherer of too many years experience, I could probably work out, but the question is:- WHY DID IT HAPPEN? Any clues anyone? (Is this a known problem?) Bye for now Graham ** This transmission is confidential and must not be used or disclosed by anyone other than the intended recipient. Neither Corus Group Plc nor any of its subsidiaries can accept any responsibility for any use or misuse of the transmission by anyone. **
Re: [newbie] PPP connection for other than root
Hugo, somebody else jump in here if I'm wrong, but I think if you use Gnome , then you have to use the ppp dialer . Set it up in Drakconfig out of the gnome popup menu . Then I'm not sure how you use it. Somebody that uses gnome just jump right in here! Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: Thanks Dennis. And what about if I use Gnome? Hugo GONZALEZ MIS Cuernavaca Mexico >-Original Message- >From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 11:56 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] PPP connection for other than root > > >Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: > >> Hello everyone! >> >> What should I do to use a PPP dialup conection to internet >whithout going into drakconf/network/PPP? >> I'd like to have a sort of shortcut so I dont have to go >into drakconf (and type root's password). Is this possible? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Hugo > >If you are usin KDE desktop there should be an icon on the >desktop that says internet, or click on the K button and >find KPPP under "internet" either way click on the icon or the >KPPP and then the setup button and you can set up for >dialup right off of the desktop. Dennis > > -- GIF87a
[newbie] [Fwd: Swap Device]
-- ___ Harry Flaxman http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman ICQ # 22086907 I originally configured. my Mandrake 7.0 accidentally with NO SWAP device. It was misconfigured and somehow the system thought it was on hda6, which it is not. I have repartitioned one of my hard drives , hdc1, to be the swap file. The fstab entry is proper. The device has been partitioned and formatted under DOS. I have tried this with no formatting and formatting. I get an error message that the kernal doesn't support the filesystem swap. hdc1 is not mounted, and the OS goes to turn on swapping and fails. If I look at linuxconf under KDE.it shows the device being set up for swap. I get no swapping at all, and my system just keeps grabbing real ram until it fills up. Oh yes, I have tried mkswap and get an error that 130048 is larger than device which has 0 size. Wondering if there were any tips on this one, that someone could give me. Thanks. Harry -- ___ Harry Flaxman http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman ICQ # 22086907
[newbie] X server is small and looks funny
Hello I am trying to install linux on P-II 300 with RIVA 128 - 4mb. The installation went fine but the x server is kind of funny. First, it doesn't fill the whole screen; it is just a small square on the middle of it. Second, the taskbar is not there. Linux can find all the parameters so I don't know what is wrong? The monitor is LG 20". Any help is appreciated. Thanks a lot. Eduardo
Re: [newbie] partition (drive) access
The download time is really long since it's rather large. but i'm working on getting it, it'll just take some time. I do have data on the FAT32 D partition. it wasn't just written over, but rather how you were saying it's hidden since i can't access it. i'll try to get PM and see if that would do the trick. sean On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Charles A Edwards wrote: Sean You can not download a working copy of PM. I have used PM for almost all of my partitioning so I have no first hand knowledge as to wheather fdisk or any other utility will allow you to set your D partition as active. Since you created your D partition when you installed Mandrake does that mean that you don,t actually have any data on it? If it is just an empty Fat partition you can boot to your 7.1 installation CD, go through to the partition utility, delete D, and resize C to take back the space. After it has been written to disk cancel the installation.and reboot your system. You will now have only one Windows partition but it's size will now be that of C D combined. Charles - Original Message - From: "Sean David McCurry-Nieto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] partition (drive) access Charles, I don't have partition magic. I used the utility during the install to partition the disk. Might there be another way? I'll look for patition magic to download but i'm connected really slowly so I'm not sure if i'd be able to get it. thank you Sean Sean Let me see if I have your info correctly. You have 1 hd on which you have 2 Windows partitions (CD) and an extended Linux partition. When your Linux partitions were created your Win D was changed from Active to Hidden because normally you would have only 1 active partition per hd. If it is hidden Windows can not see it. Linux dosen't care and can see any thing except BeOS. I am guessing that you have PM. If so then launch it. Select what should be your D partition and from the Operation menu choose Advanced/ Set Active. You will get a warning message about your Drive letters changing and reccomending that you don't do it, but do it anyway. Once you reboot your system Windows will once again see both your C D partitions. Charles - Original Message - From: "Sean David McCurry-Nieto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 6:51 PM Subject: [newbie] partition (drive) access I was wondering if someone could answer a technical question for me. Recently I installed Mandrake 7.1 on my personal computer. Mandrake will automaticaly mount your media for you, whether it's HDs, zips, cds, etc. I am using a dual boot system, windows and then of course linux. On the windows partition I have two drives, C:\ and D:\ Well when I am running Linux, I can see both of the windows partitions and can even access the files across the partition (from Linux onto windows). But when I boot into Windows I can't see the D:\ drive. I can access the C but can't even see the D. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what I can do to resolve this? Sean
Re: [newbie] Hard drive compromised by Mandrake install
Tom, Tell that mis-understanding part to one of my 3 HDD's on my system. Used FIPS on it once a long time ago when I was new to Linux, and it hasn't been the same since. That "useful" little utility scrambled it's eggs so bad that I wasn't sure I was going to get it back. I wasn't able to get it back until I went at it with Partition Magic, and luckily was able to rescue most of the data on the drive curtousy of Norton Utilities. I got lucky. Some I've known weren't so lucky after using FIPS. So, it's not a "belief" it's a cold, hard reality of experience. One that thankfully I've learned from. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote: something else I forgot to mention. NEVER use FIPS on a HDD that you intend to use all the time, or one that you intend to keep. Use FIPS and you're welcoming any and all problems that you can imagine on your HDD. Overlapping partitions is one of the most common problems associated with the program and just the beginning of your sorrows. -- Mark Mark, you're welcome to that belief if you wanna keep it, but user lack of understanding and use shouldn't be blamed on perfectly good utilities. Biggest problems with partitioning and formatting drives for any OS, with any OS's tools, is most all of us do it only on rare occasions an aren't that sharp at using the tools. Next source of heartache would prob'ly be the hardware some of us trustingly buy. Last on the list would be the OS and the utilities that come with it, includin FIPS. -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Suggestion For A message Footer
Denis, As mostly a lurker I observe a fairly constant stream of requests to "Un-Sub-Scribe" (reserved word??) from readers who wish to leave, depart, resign, give up, etc. I watch several user groups and note that a number add a footer to every outgoing message from the mailserver which tells the recipient how to depart gracefully. Two in particular are worth a 'look-at' - Pronto and Mysql. Cheers John === Home of the Americas Cup MSer's of the world ignite!!! ===
[newbie] Exit BIOS/don't save changes
Linux won't start after installation unless: Hold "delete" and enter BIOS. Exit BIOS and don't save changes. This has to be done each time I boot Linux. I've installed Linux 7.0 several times on two different hard drives(different makes and models). When the installation is complete and I try to load Linux without entering the BIOS first. The machine hangs. LILO comes up and then after 5 seconds - 'loading Linux'. Eleven dots follow the 'loading Linux' and then the system hangs. The keyboard appears to be dead. Mother Board: Zerus AT Pentium TX w/AMD K6 300 MMX P Processor: AMD-K6-2/300 Bios: American Megatrends, AMI BIOS VER. 2.5 (c) 1997 HDD: FUJ-MPE3064AT IDE 6.4GB 9.5MS DMA66 540 Cdrom: Standard 40 speed Video: PCI Trio 64P(FP) Ver 1.5-07 w/S3 chip T3M 127A M6026133 Controller is on the mother board, I think it is a DMA 33. OS: Linux-Mandrake 7.0 - No other operating system on HDD. I do runs Windows on this machine with no problems, but I switch to other HDD. William Tomlinson
[newbie] How to set Modem in LMandrake?
I was trying to setup the internet, so I clicked the INTERNET icon, but don't know how to setup modem, and is it possible have a free internet, could you please help me. Thanks " Even the longuest journey has to start with a small first step" -- majid L [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email (617) 598-1046 x6951 - voicemail/fax __ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive compromised by Mandrake install
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:56:55 -0400 (EDT), Mark Weaver wrote: Tom, Tell that mis-understanding part to one of my 3 HDD's on my system. Used FIPS on it once a long time ago when I was new to Linux, and it hasn't been the same since. That "useful" little utility scrambled it's eggs so bad that I wasn't sure I was going to get it back. I wasn't able to get it back until I went at it with Partition Magic, and luckily was able to rescue most of the data on the drive curtousy of Norton Utilities. I got lucky. Some I've known weren't so lucky after using FIPS. So, it's not a "belief" it's a cold, hard reality of experience. One that thankfully I've learned from. -- Mark LOTS SNIPPED Hi Guys, A recommendation here is to use the Partition Magic DOS based program to do the actual partitioning. Then use each Operating Systems respective utility to format the partition that each OS will occupy. For example if Win98 (Fat32) will be on the 2nd partition, WinNT (VFat or NTFS) on the 3rd partition and Linux (Ext2FS) on the 4th partition, then use Win98 to format the 2nd, WinNT to format the 3rd partition and Linux to format the4th partition AFTER you have used Partition Magic (DOS - PQMagic.exe) to setup or change the partitions. It appears that all the operating systems find the DOS partitioning table acceptable. If you have PM 4 you can create a DOS boot disk that also includes a graphical version of PQMagic.exe on it. You can use PQMagic.exe to format but while the other OS will accept the partition table, they will sometimes not like the formatting. BTW if you always use the same tool for partitioning and repartitioning you are less like to have any incompatibilities and corruption. Ralph Sanford-If your government does not trust you, [EMAIL PROTECTED]-should you trust your government? +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+ For my public PGP key send email with subject: "Send_PGP_Key" RSA Key - 0x434B4825 DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
Re: [newbie] GNOME
On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, yatsenng wrote: Hi there, I installed Mandrake for the first time yesterday and opted for GNOME, however, I have no idea how to start it up. When I log in I only get the default windowmanager (ICEwm). Another thing, I chose for a graphical login. How can I disable this? Thank you very much! In a terminal you can run "switchdesk", or select something from somewhere in DrakConf (I think). Paul -- Do you work to live? Or do you live to work? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Lost Update Icon
Damthe desktop icon is an applications kdelnk to the program /usr/X11R6/bin/MandrakeUpdate. Alan "Gentile, Sam" wrote: For some reason, the "Update" icon is gone from my KDE desktop. I can't seem to find the program either. How do I do this? Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Compuware NuMega Performance Coverage Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.numega.com http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?SamGentile "Love Yourself. Love Your Neighbor. Love Your COM"
Re: [newbie] Make Rescue/Bootdisk?
Ronasuming that you let it install the default grub
bootloader the below is cut and pasted from the command:
info grub
and was found in the FAQ's section.
Alan
How to create a GRUB boot floppy with the menu interface?
The easiest way is:
1. Create filesystem in your floppy disk. For example:
$ mke2fs /dev/fd0
2. Mount it on somewhere, say, `/mnt'.
3. Copy the GRUB images to `/mnt/boot/grub'. Only
`stage1',
`stage2' and `menu.lst' are necessary. You may not
copy
"stage1.5"s.
4. Run the following command:
$ /sbin/grub --batch EOT
root (fd0)
setup (fd0)
quit
EOT
"Luther, Ron" wrote:
Hi all,
I'm very new to this stuff.
I finally have a Mandrake 7.1 distribution up and running at home.
I'd like to create a "rescue" or "bootdisk" diskette. {I'm planning to
re-install the Win98 portion of my "dual boot" machine - but I'm worried
about the possibility of not being able to get back into Mandrake.}
Is there an 'easy' way to do this?
Ron Luther
Telxon Corporation
Re: [newbie] Printer Epson
Hi Gustavo: Mine is an Epson Stylus 740 Color. And yes, I did experience the same problem like yours. I'm not so sure if I could help out but this is what I noticed in my case. If my printer is already on before I start installing Mandrake 7.0 it does not work (most of the time, coz I have reinstalled my Mandrake many times already). However, if I turn on my printer just before I configure for printer, it works. (very peculiar, huh?) Sometimes also, I don't configure the printer in install and configure it after installing. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. Doing this on the same machine and using the same installation disk and installation procedure and acting inconsistently, I can really conclude that there is a bug (or there are bugs) in Mandrake 7.0 (this is just my personal opinion, no other intention intended :) ) "If" you are going to reinstall, try what I did. Turn on the printer just before configuring it. good luck. edison From: toyswins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Printer Epson Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:27:58 -0500 I have a Epson Stylus 400 Color and there is no specific driver for it in my version 6.5 however, there is a generic Epson Stylus driver. Try installing that and see if it works. Sorry no more help from me on this one, but I just did this about 4 days ago and never was able to get it to work before. Good luck. Gustavo Halperin wrote: I have the printer Epson Stylus Color 670 The Linux Mandrake was know this in the configuration hardware, but when I send any think is not print, What I can to do -- _/_/_/_/.._/. _/._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/ _/.._/._/_/_/_/.. ..._/..._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/.._/_/.._/._/... .._/..._/_/.._/._/._/_/_/_/..._/..._/_/_/_/..._/..._/.._/._/ ._/.._/.._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/_/._/..._/._/. _/_/_/_/.._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/.._/..._/.._/._/_/..._/_/_/_/.. .Gustavo Halperin... .Paradigm Geophysical..\\\Y///. [EMAIL PROTECTED]\\ ^ ^ // .972-9-9709318..(/ @ @ \).. -oOOo-(_)-oOOo- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] How to set Modem in LMandrake?
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote: I was trying to setup the internet, so I clicked the INTERNET icon, but don't know how to setup modem, and is it possible have a free internet, could you please help me. Thanks You're just havin a heck of a time with this aren't ya? :) http://www.mandrakeuser.org/connect/cppp.html This covers a lot of different ways and applications, so scroll down the page till you see 'Kppp' But first I gotta feelin, you might've missed, or Mandrake missed figuring out what com port, or ttyS? (eg, Com2, or ttyS1) your modem is on. Start 'linuxconf' (as root), and mash the 'miscellaneous services' button on the 'config' tab. You should now see a 'modem' button to mash on. Then you'll see 5 choices, ttyS1 thru S4, and 'unknown'. I dunno what happens if you hit unknown ;) Click on the one your modem is on (most likely Com2/ttyS1 if you've gotta decent hardware modem). Quit making the change(s). If none of the above doesn't get you going, you might not have a modem? Check here: http://www.kcdata.com/~gromitkc/winmodem.html Read that page, but especially click on the link 'View the entire table'. That's prob'ly the most up to date list of modems that work with any OS other than Windoze only, ie, real modems. If none of the above works, holler back with more specifics on your hardware, and what you found out. Yes it's possible to have free Internet (FWIW). There's very few ISP's in the world that can't be accessed usin linux, but very few will tell you how ;) Even tho most of 'em are runnin Un*x -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Exit BIOS/don't save changes
Try resetting your PCI/PNP options in the BIOS. Make sure it reads PNP/OS, etc. Then try rebooting. Entering the BIOS works for you, because it permits the machine to start up without fully initializing the PNP/PCI cards. This indicates a conflict in the PNP/PCI setup. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: wtomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 10:43 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Exit BIOS/don't save changes | | |Linux won't start after installation unless: | Hold "delete" and enter BIOS. | Exit BIOS and don't save changes. | This has to be done each time I boot Linux. | |I've installed Linux 7.0 several times on two different hard |drives(different makes and models). When the installation is |complete and I |try to load Linux without entering the BIOS first. The machine hangs. |LILO comes up and then after 5 seconds - 'loading Linux'. Eleven dots |follow the 'loading Linux' and then the system hangs. The |keyboard appears |to be dead. | |Mother Board: Zerus AT Pentium TX w/AMD K6 300 MMX P |Processor: AMD-K6-2/300 |Bios: American Megatrends, AMI BIOS VER. 2.5 (c) 1997 |HDD: FUJ-MPE3064AT IDE 6.4GB 9.5MS DMA66 540 |Cdrom: Standard 40 speed |Video: PCI Trio 64P(FP) Ver 1.5-07 w/S3 chip T3M 127A M6026133 |Controller is on the mother board, I think it is a DMA 33. |OS: Linux-Mandrake 7.0 - No other operating system on HDD. |I do runs Windows on this machine with no problems, but I switch |to other HDD. |William Tomlinson |
Re: [newbie] PPP connection for other than root
I prefer KPPP also, because it is quick and easy, I just don't know how Hugo can get it if He is using gnome. Does he set it up on the gnome desktop the same as KDE? Mark Weaver wrote: When you're running Gnome you have a choice of either the Gnome dialer which I've found to be somewhat troublesome in 7.1 or Kppp. Personally it's easier to just use Kppp. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Dennis Myers wrote: > Hugo, somebody else jump in here if I'm wrong, but I think if you use > Gnome , then you have to use the ppp dialer . Set it up in Drakconfig > out of the gnome popup menu . Then I'm not sure how you use it. > Somebody that uses gnome just jump right in here! > > > > > > Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: > > > Thanks Dennis. > > And what about if I use Gnome? > > > > Hugo GONZALEZ > > MIS Cuernavaca > > Mexico > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 11:56 AM > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: [newbie] PPP connection for other than root > > > > > > > > >Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: > > > > > >> Hello everyone! > > >> > > >> What should I do to use a PPP dialup conection to internet > > >whithout going into drakconf/network/PPP? > > >> I'd like to have a sort of shortcut so I dont have to go > > >into drakconf (and type root's password). Is this possible? > > >> > > >> Thanks in advance. > > >> > > >> Hugo > > > > > >If you are usin KDE desktop there should be an icon on the > > >desktop that says internet, or click on the K button and > > >find KPPP under "internet" either way click on the icon or the > > >KPPP and then the setup button and you can set up for > > >dialup right off of the desktop. Dennis > > > > > > > > -- > GIF87a > > > -- BM
Re: [newbie] Missing basesystem error on install
I make clock faces out of AOL and MSN CDs I have received in the mail, they make lovely parting gifts for ITs and other geeks or geek wannabe's like me. But coasters are good! How do you plug the hole so condensation does'nt get through to the wood finish? Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote: > At 03:33 PM 7/6/00 -0400, Luther, Ron wrote: > >I also had a bad file the first time I downloaded the 7.1 install ISO file. > > > >I downloaded the file a second time, cut it to disk, and it worked fine! > > > >(The first disk is serving as a coaster for my diet coke!) > > I'll give that a try. Thanks! While we're on the subject, and this is only my experience and opinion I don't have near fast enough connection to d/l, specially 1.2 gigs of 7.1. I do have a burner tho. I've always bought linux CD's from cheapbytes.com. But with 6.1 and again with 7.0, the cd's were poor quality. No problems I couln't work around, but not up to par. So I bought 7.1 from LinuxLand because I heard ahead of time that they were good quality, and from masters obtained directly from Mdk, not a burn of the d/l iso's. I wasn't disappointed. Very high quality cdr's, rather than production cd's. Full 2.5 gig install went without one hitch. I don't mean this as a plug for LL, or a slap at Cheapbytes, but I do believe it's important that when we experience install problems, we should also state where or what we're tryin to install from, no? I gotta Plextor 8432, hasn't made a coaster yet :^p doesn't matter tho, I've got a sh!+load of AoL MSN cd's they mail me ;-> -- ~~ Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BM
Re: [newbie] Sound Blaster Live
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Jim Dwyer wrote: I'm having a lot of trouble getting my sound card to work in 7.1 I got the new drivers from Creative OpenSource and compiled and installed but still can't get the darn thing to work. When i go to configure it in HardDrake it plays sound when i run the test but when i click OK to configure it says cannot find file "/dev/dsp" What's up with this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hi Jim, I had the same problem once, and I could fix it through chmod a+rw /dev/dsp Perhaps this helps you too. Paul -- You need legs if you don't have courage )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
[newbie] Install
I have downloaded and created the 2 CD containing Mandrake 7.1 but when I try and install I have the following problem. I select standard install and it runs till it gets to my two IDE disks. It then assumes that it can go ahead and rewrite the partitions on /dev/hdc and I really don't want Mandrake fiddling with this drive. I have no problem with it doing what it will with /dev/hda but I need to change the install so that it leaves /dev/hdc alone. I have tried disabling the second drive in the BIOS but still Mandrake persists in trying to rewrite it. Please tell me how to do this. --- Regards, Alf Stocktonwww.stockton.co.za In God we trust, all others are suspects.
[newbie] Configuring my ISA Modem
Now that I've tackled almost every device on my computer, there lies one last part to be recognized by Mandrake: my ISA "Compaq 56K-DF" modem. I doubt that it is a winmodem due to the fact that Windows reads it on Com2, and not as an expansion device. Any advice, drivers? I've already set Linux to look for it on Com2 (ttyS2), only to the success of a droning "Modem busy" message each time I try Kppp. And another comment ... switching to a Windows session after a long Linux session avails my modem undetectable to Windows unless I do a clean reboot. Could this be related? Believe me, this modem has giving me trouble many times before. Kenny
Re: [newbie] video chipset video card
Hi all: I'm having problems with my X interface. I can login in text mode but the startx would give me a blinking screen. I checked out www.xfree86.org and found that my chipset "Trident Blade 3D" is supported. However, i followed the instructions to set it up using xf86config to no avail. My Trident Blade 3D chipset is intergrated into the motherboard. Does this make a difference then? I mean from a separate video card? My monitor is a Compaq 15" MV520. I'm trying to isolate the problem first before going out to get a video card. If I get video card (compatible with Linux) and solves that problem would be great but if not I don't want to spend anymore $$$ and will get the same errors. Thanks, edison Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Acrobat Reader 4 problem
I've had something like this happen at work when you try and read a PDF document created in version 4 with version 3 reader, but your problem appears to be somewhat different. Nev Joan Tur wrote: Hallo! I've a problem with Acrobat Reader 4; it installs fine (rpm), but opening some .pdf pages appear in black or cut by the middle... 8-? Any idea? Thanks. - Joan Tur - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ibiza - Spain Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de
RE: [newbie] StarOffice5.1KpackageInstalling
-Original Message- From: Barry Premeaux [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thu, July 06, 2000 06:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] StarOffice5.1KpackageInstalling Marcia Waller wrote: Dear anyone, I have the Linux-Mandrake 7.0 complete and I thought I installed it from the CD#3 last night. It shows up in the Kpack window as installed I believe, but I do not know how to open and use the program. There is no icon on my desktop. I would like to do this the easy way if possible such as through KPackage or RPMDrake. Thank you very much for your help. Sincerely, Marcia Waller Star Office shows up under "Personal" menu item for me. I installed it from the CD and after restarting windows, it lists three menu items for SO. ^ | --| Barry :-) | | Windows??? | Michael Perry. RD. Dep. Netafim Magal. Linux -- the Ultimate Windows Service Pack The three most dangerous things are a programmer with a soldering iron, a manager who codes, and a user who gets ideas.
Re: [newbie] video chipset video card
Have you set up your XF86Config with the correct vertical and horizontal sync's for your monitor? dave On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote: Hi all: I'm having problems with my X interface. I can login in text mode but the startx would give me a blinking screen. I checked out www.xfree86.org and found that my chipset "Trident Blade 3D" is supported. However, i followed the instructions to set it up using xf86config to no avail. My Trident Blade 3D chipset is intergrated into the motherboard. Does this make a difference then? I mean from a separate video card? My monitor is a Compaq 15" MV520. I'm trying to isolate the problem first before going out to get a video card. If I get video card (compatible with Linux) and solves that problem would be great but if not I don't want to spend anymore $$$ and will get the same errors. Thanks, edison Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registration #182490 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= LINUX - Why? Cause I dont do windows or ovens! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
RE: [newbie] Hard drive problems
"man hdparm" -JMS |-Original Message- |From: Steve Elliott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 4:30 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Hard drive problems | | |Hiya all, | I have a problem with HD access with 7.1. | It was a fresh install of the 2 IsO cd set. I had w98 |installed first |in a 6 gig primary partition. I then installed linux into the remainder. |I have an athlon 650 on an asus k7v motherboard and voodoo 3000 vid, 128 |ram, 10 g seagate st310212a ultra66 disk. I am ansure as to controller |type. | The prob is when i run hdparm -Tt i get a low reading of 4 |mb/sec :((( |for reading form the disk - 140 mb/sec thru the cache. | I have run a similar test under 98 and got roughly the same |low result |for disk read. | When the machine boots up the disk is starting in mode 4. | I spoke to the dealer who i got the machine from - only 2 |weeks old. He |has the same setup at home and has found a similar prob under rh6.2 on |his box and w98. What he found was that with 98 on the system as a fresh |install - no linux on system at all - it reads OK. as soon as linux goes |near the disk it slows down. He has spoken to seagate, but of course |they r not a lot of help as soon as u mention the word linux. | Anyway able to help me here ? I have not confirmed my dealers story |that with 98 only it runs OK - i don't wanna blow the system away just |yet |
RE: [newbie] Hard drive problems
Opps I see that you've alread read the man page... Now try ENABLING the extra features, ONE AT A TIME... Linux disables 32 bit I/O, DMA, etc. by default for compatibility purposes. You'll need to enable this on your drive... but test this FIRST! -JMS |-Original Message- |From: Steve Elliott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 4:30 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Hard drive problems | | |Hiya all, | I have a problem with HD access with 7.1. | It was a fresh install of the 2 IsO cd set. I had w98 |installed first |in a 6 gig primary partition. I then installed linux into the remainder. |I have an athlon 650 on an asus k7v motherboard and voodoo 3000 vid, 128 |ram, 10 g seagate st310212a ultra66 disk. I am ansure as to controller |type. | The prob is when i run hdparm -Tt i get a low reading of 4 |mb/sec :((( |for reading form the disk - 140 mb/sec thru the cache. | I have run a similar test under 98 and got roughly the same |low result |for disk read. | When the machine boots up the disk is starting in mode 4. | I spoke to the dealer who i got the machine from - only 2 |weeks old. He |has the same setup at home and has found a similar prob under rh6.2 on |his box and w98. What he found was that with 98 on the system as a fresh |install - no linux on system at all - it reads OK. as soon as linux goes |near the disk it slows down. He has spoken to seagate, but of course |they r not a lot of help as soon as u mention the word linux. | Anyway able to help me here ? I have not confirmed my dealers story |that with 98 only it runs OK - i don't wanna blow the system away just |yet |
