Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Romanator

There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's
name is Whistler.

goldenpi wrote:
 
 Give it time. I have just seen windows millenium and I can assure you it will
 not last. It is awful. It is slow. It takes up half my hard drive and then its
 optional parts take the rest. And it doesn't work.
 
 Windows 2k however is here to stay. I haven't seen it running but I have heard
 of it.
 
 On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, you wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
 
 
   I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse
   support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse
   dialog. Ridiculous.
 
  Very true indeed. Kde should build a special mouse driver for mice that have
  a scrol wheel and side buttons. Mine has four buttons and a scroll wheel.
  And the people who make the mice should write software for linux also. After
  all there are a lot of people using linux today.
 
  I feel that if every one using linux sent email to the logitech company
  asking for drivers/software for there products then they might do something
  about it. i just bought a new printer, a lexmark Z32 because they have
  drivers for linux. And the Z52 has drivers for linux also.
 
  My mouse is a ms intelli mouse explorer and whith the software for windoze I
  can get the buttons to do what ever I want them to do, and I can change the
  icons as well. But I bought it because it does not have a ball in it and can
  use it as either ps2 or usb.
 
  I also feel that linux should have surport for IDE CD Burners, not just
  SCSI.
 
  Regards Anthony Daniell
 --
 ==
 Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round
 geek.

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293




Re: [Re: [[newbie] modem port prob]]

2000-12-28 Thread Penndragon

Hi Mike

 Hey James,
 From your response, it appears you have more than one Serial port.

That's right, I have two ports. Since I have win95 as the other system on
this PC, and the usual mouse port seems to be tied into USB bus, win95 won
recognise it there forcing me to commondere port 1 for the mouse leaving
port 2 for the palm pilot or modem or whatever gets connected to it. Under
windoze I opted for a pci modem to keep it free for the palm pilot. For the
moment I have yet to check if Linux will regognise a mouse on the ps2 port
which is tied to the usb bus from what I gather here. I have found an
unsupported driver for the modem and have yet to test it, but another
possibility I'm now looking at is to get another card to add 1 or more
serial ports to accept another modem I can use under both OS's.

Can you
 spare one for an external?  If not, there are SOME PCI internals that are
NOT
 winmodems.  Check one of the hardware sights from the Mandrake homepage.
I
 believe that Actiontec makes a true hardware PCI, but someone else on the
list
 please correct me if I err.
 HTH,
 Mike


Thanx, will do that as well. Never heard of Actiocec over here in Australia
though. May do a little checking into linux compatability b4 adding to this
system now.

Thanx again

James







Re: [Re: [[newbie] modem port prob]]

2000-12-28 Thread lesowens

Hi all,

I'd like to ask a quick question here -- are most internal 
modems pci/winmodems? I ask becuz: today i called my 
isp/dsl customer service folks and asked them if i could 
return my external alcatel speed touch usb for anything 
else that might support linux...  fyi the alcatel dsl that i 
have doesnt have a nic and on the piece itself its named 
a network terminator; it sets up just like a regular ppp 
modem in ms with excellent download  surf speeds - i 
havent figured out the linux yet.

the bubbas at bellsouth business weren't too up on linux 
in general - so i'm probably ending up with a pig in a 
poke again but they were at least willing to let me 
exchange what i had that i couldnt find anything to help 
me make it work with linux. i understand they have a 
3com device but cant remember what it was now.

thanks,
les
Gastonia Nc




[newbie] Please help, can't get into Mandrake7.2!!!

2000-12-28 Thread Revenant

My Mandrake 7.2 is configured to boot graphically.  It works well until
the point where you would normally enter your login and password.

What used to happen was it would display the shell login screen, then
open the graphical login screen over the top.

Now, once it reaches this stage, I get a blank black screen. 
Ctrl-Alt-F2 does nothing, nor does Alt-F2..

I've checked the messages log and I think the problem is stated here,
but am not sure what to do about it:

Dec 27 18:57:27 revenant kernel: parport0: no IEEE-1284 device present.
Dec 27 18:57:27 revenant kernel: lp0: using parport0 (polling).
Dec 27 18:57:27 revenant modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
char-major-4
Dec 27 18:57:28 revenant last message repeated 67 times
Dec 27 18:57:28 revenant modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
char-major-180


PLEASE help!

Thank you,

Revenant.


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Re: [Re: [[newbie] modem port prob]]

2000-12-28 Thread Louis F. Brooks

James,

  Go to this link :  http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/rg/  - there is some good
info concerning what modems will work.

  Two PCI modems are listed as working , they are

  Actiontec PCI Call-Waiting - model PCI56012-01CW

  3COM/USR PCI - model 3cp5610a

  I am using a 3COM/USR EXT model 5686-03 and it is working fine. The truth
of the matter is with Windows and Linux/Unix you will probably be better off
using an external modem. Many older DOS and Windows based programs, some
still on the market, have trouble supporting PCI slotted modems. I suspect
that with the current bus mastering been used on motherboards and the lack
of support from PCI modem manufactures, in regards to Linux, even a PCI
modem that CAN be used, may pose some problems as far as getting a clean
IRQ.

good luck,

Louis





Re: [newbie] How many partitions?

2000-12-28 Thread Louis F. Brooks

My install of 7.2 would not even let me do this. I was trying to put it on a
30 gig drive with W98 2nd being first. Would not work, at least for me. The
board is an Intel D815eea, Matrox 30gig with ata 66.

Louis





Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread Roger Sherman

I totally agree...I first started using Linux about 4 months ago, and
started out with KDE, as it provided a familiar environment. However,
after a while, I started to notice it did take up some resources that
could have been put to better use (and this was while I still only had 64
meg RAM). Blackbox is faster, and to me just _feels_ more "linux-y."


peace,

Rog
http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #19071

On 27 Dec 2000, Michael Scottaline wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view point
 on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.  Mandrake 7.2 is
 fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for my processors
 architecture.  windowmaker opens from startx (enter) to finished in about 2
 seconds ;-)
 ===
 Blackbox will probably do it in less than one!!  Give it a try if you're
 willing to forego eyecandy and like the understated elegance of simplicity.
 Runs just about any KDE or Gnome app with NO problem.
 Mike

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Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Anthony Daniell

so you don't like it when some one says something you don't like to hear LOL
hahahahahahahaha

- Original Message -
From: "Romanator" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux


 Could be. Could be...

 Mark Weaver wrote:
 
  Good ole tony sounds like a good candidate for the twit list, huh?
 
  Mark
  
  From: Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:39:54 -0500
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
  
  Careful, we use trained man-eating penguins. Argghh...
  
  Roman
  
  Mark Weaver wrote:
  
   On Tuesday 26 December 2000 22:53, you wrote:
Says who 
  
   don't you have a few installs to take care of or something? :\
   --
   Mark
  
   "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
worthless,"
   "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
  
   Linus Torvalds
  







Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-28 Thread Revenant

John Arkoulis wrote:
Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the new
fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon)
Yes I know G4 is a MAC.
Which one do you think is best for Linux???
Thanks

  http://www.tomshardware.com is pretty good.  Doesn't cover the Mac,
but of the other two, the short version is: Intel chips perform slightly
faster at the same MHz, but can cost as much as 2.5x as much.  Intel
have also been having a few stability probs lately.

  Re: The P4s, they seem to be roughly the equivalent of P3s of the same
MHz (if there were such a thing).  They get a big performance boost if
the software is P4-optimised but, as none of it is at the moment, that's
a fairly nebulous advantage.  http://www.tomshardware.com has more on
this.


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[newbie] javascript file errors- Virtual Hosting

2000-12-28 Thread Beckycould



I Host websites in a Virtual fashion using Mandrake 
7.0.

When I upload webpagescontaining some 
javascript.class files into their respective folders the page displays 
incorrectly upon inspecting the Error Log it says thata browser was 
looking in "My" main website folder for the class file- I dont know what 
to call "My Main Folder" except that "My" web folder is located along with all 
the others in /home/webs/myfolder like the rest 
/home/webs/otherfolders

I do not understand why.. rather than the page 
displaying correctly with the contents located within the /webs/folder it 
is looking basically in the "main" or "My" main folder- 


I have 45 various web sites and One of 
them is mine- the name of the DNS Name Server and a Domain name are "One 
in the same".

Anyone know what I am experiencing 
here?

Muchos Gracias..
Thanks
Beck


Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread Revenant

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view
 point on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900. 
 Mandrake 7.2 is fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for
 my processors architecture.
SNIP

  How do you recompile for an Athlon?


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Re: [newbie] Advice needed on firewall...

2000-12-28 Thread Paul

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Michael O'Henly wrote:

My impression is that DrakConf's "internet connection sharing" command runs a
DHCP server and masquerades IPs. This is more than I need (DHCP) but it works
so I'll use it.

At http://mandrakeuser.org you can find a few simple tips to run internet
sharing without DHCP. Just a small script on the connecting box and a
gateway setting on the client that uses the line. Very simple, and works
great.

I'm also looking a pmfirewall http://www.pointman.org/ to provide a
firewall. It looks well-documented and well-supported, and is based on
IPCHAINS.

Good choice, I use that too.

Questions:

1. Does "internet connection sharing" create any kind of a firewall on its
own?

No, it does not. It may use ipchains for a few things but that is not for
firewall purposes.

2. Is there any overlap between "internet connection sharing" (as implemented
by LM) and pmfirewall? pmfirewall asks whether you're running a DHCP server
and masquerading IPs, so I think it generates a script that takes into
account these things.

Correct.

3. If you have any other advice about how to protect a 1-Linux / 2-Mac home
network using the Linux box, two ethernet cards and a cable connection, I'd
be very interested.

After setting up ipchains with pmfirewall's script, also find portsentry
and have that loaded. Works fine against port-attacks. Then you should be
reasonably safe.

Paul

-- 
At a certain time there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
And it isn't a train.

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[newbie] TEST

2000-12-28 Thread Revenant

Are you recieving this?

I'm recieving zero replies to my (somewhat desperate  pleading)
requests for help.  Are they getting through alright?

Thank you,

Revenant.


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Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Mark Weaver

On Thursday 28 December 2000 03:06, you wrote:
 There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's
 name is Whistler.


Yeah...that short for "Whistle friggin dixie while you wait for ever for your 
computer to stinkin work correctly cause this OS sucks!" I'm sorry. Win 95B 
is a good one and 98SE isn't too bad as long as you keep the registry squeeky 
clean; NT4.0 with "all" the service pack installed and kept clean will run 
well too, but WinME is a joke! What were they thinking?

Sorry to the list cause this ain't a windows forum.

Nowdie...thread DIE! :)
-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," 
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds




[newbie] wu-ftpd

2000-12-28 Thread Andri Genio

hi

does anyone know how to setup user account for only
wuftpd ?
i don't wanna user in ftp can access in telnet or
others thing !

any simple and good website about tutorial wu-ftpd ?

thanks 

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[newbie] Digital camera relief! ;-)

2000-12-28 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Okay, I've now got my Polaroid 640 PDC plus working with Gphoto v.43, and all
is well... ;-)

I ended up disabling onboard serial port 1, and using "auto" on port 2. 

embarassed mode on

I ummalsoahem, got the 1/8 inch mini-jack serial port cable correctly
plugged into the camera...(it took a lot more force than I ever imagined, and a
final "click")

embarrassed mode off

;-)

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   /\
   DarkLord
   \/




Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Anthony Daniell

nope lol
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 5:29 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux


 On Tuesday 26 December 2000 22:53, you wrote:
  Says who 

 don't you have a few installs to take care of or something? :\
 --
 Mark

 "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
worthless,"
 "Sharing is what makes them powerful."

 Linus Torvalds







[newbie] hopefully a useful resource

2000-12-28 Thread Penndragon



Hi Guys

Thought the following site might be a useful 
resource to others later when looking for drivers for their parralel port 
peripherals.

http://www.torque.net/linux-pp.html

James


[newbie] One more question about digital cameras...

2000-12-28 Thread Ronald J. Hall

I do have another question concerning Gphoto and digital camera use. I was only
able to get it to work as "su" because my normal user returned a permission
error on ttyxxx...

I understand that normally, though kppp, my user can access ttyS00 because its
really linked to /dev/modem, which has all permissions turned on so...

How do I set things up so that my normal user account can use Gphoto and access
the ttyxxx that it needs?

Thanks much! ;-)

PS Something else odd that I'd like to mention. Gphoto saved my downloaded pics
as "-001.jpg" and up, numerically. I went su, then did:

chmod 750 *
chgrp darklord *
chown darklord *

and none of these, (which normally work) worked. I was given an error message
along the lines of:

command -- 0 invalid option
see command -- help

On a hunch, I removed the "-" in front of these filenames, (using KDE not from
a command line) and I was able to manipulate them as usual. What is it about a
"-" in front of a file name that does this? Curiosity is killing me... ;-)

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[newbie] ftp server

2000-12-28 Thread Andri Genio

hi

does anyone know how to setup the wu-ftp user name ?
i just wanna people can have access to my ftp not 
telnet server or other accounts !



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[newbie] Java Class Mystery Solved AHA Thanks

2000-12-28 Thread Beckycould

Java .class files MUST go to the server in BINARY - never in ASCII
This is number one on the hit list of common errors.  If you send the .class
file up in ASCII, the browser basically can't read the file, since it's
looking for a binary Java executable.  Variously, the browser status bar
might report a number of errors, often "class file not found" - or it may
just sit there dumb as a bag of dead flies.  (This depends on the browser
and version.)  If in doubt, send the class file up again.

Oh shoot I bet I sent that last email using HTML
whoops sorry, as I lie here in bed typing I forget about the rest of you
nerds and forget this is a soft spot.
Sorry, Just wanted to ask then share.
Sorry. Im Sorry.. Sorry about the HTML, Sorry.

Becky,
(who forgets the computer health of others as she explores the life stream
of technological rudiments).





Re: [newbie] Signal 7....

2000-12-28 Thread ZER0 FREQUENCY


Romanator wrote:

Check http://www.mandrakesoft.com. In addition, always check the
newsgroups or run a search on the mail archives before downloading. Yes,

Thanx!

32 Meg. of RAM is recommended. This ain't DOS...

Recommended but not the minimum.



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[newbie] Nvidia Riva 128Z acceleration

2000-12-28 Thread falcaraz

Dear Civileme
I have seen the Mandrakeforum.com, but using the lings these files are
not applicable to the Riva 128Z; they consider that this could be work
fine with XFree 3.36 and 4.0.
Nevertheless, Mandrake 7.2 in personal installation just gives me the
oportunity to select between 3.36 with acceleration or without
aceleration; there is a message about the possibility to use 4.01 but
not the possibility to select it.
My questions are:

1) It is possible acceleration for this video card using XFree 4.0 or
4.01?

2) In this case do I need to select an expert installation?

A question for everybody, there is any person that has reached the
acceleration with this video card (Nvidia Riva 128Z) on Mandrake 7.2?,
How?

Thanks so much for your help

Francisco Alcaraz
Murcia (Spain)





[newbie] Editorial on the success of Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Linux Tests

Just had to get this one off my chest.

http://www.linuxtests.org/articles/distributions/success.php3

-- 
Testing New PC Hardware under the GNU/Linux OS
http://www.linuxtests.org




Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Revenant

Romanator wrote:
 There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's
 name is Whistler.
SNIP
Clarification:  Millenium is MS eking the last $$$ it can out of the
dying Win9x OS.  Whistler will be what Win2000 was supposed to be - the
fusion of the NT line with the Win9x line.  It is supposed to be a very
different beast to the Win9x line, including ME...


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[newbie] Where is the kernel?

2000-12-28 Thread Arlindo Fragoso



Hi!I've searched in /usr/src for the kernel file but I d'ont see 
it!!! I've tried to compile a new kernel doing "make xconfig" or menuconfig but 
I get an error mensage. How to compile the kernel in Mandrake 
7.1?TIAAF


Re: [newbie] Please help, can't get into Mandrake7.2!!!

2000-12-28 Thread civileme

On Thursday 28 December 2000 04:24, you wrote:
 My Mandrake 7.2 is configured to boot graphically.  It works well until
 the point where you would normally enter your login and password.

 What used to happen was it would display the shell login screen, then
 open the graphical login screen over the top.

 Now, once it reaches this stage, I get a blank black screen.
 Ctrl-Alt-F2 does nothing, nor does Alt-F2..

 I've checked the messages log and I think the problem is stated here,
 but am not sure what to do about it:

 Dec 27 18:57:27 revenant kernel: parport0: no IEEE-1284 device present.
 Dec 27 18:57:27 revenant kernel: lp0: using parport0 (polling).
 Dec 27 18:57:27 revenant modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
 char-major-4
 Dec 27 18:57:28 revenant last message repeated 67 times
 Dec 27 18:57:28 revenant modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
 char-major-180

file:/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-2.2.17/devices.txt

says char-major-4 minor 0-63 are your /dev/tty0, 1, 
the next numbers are for /dev/ttys0-/dev/ttys3  Total is 67.

So you have no launch pad for your Graphical login.

file:/lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/modules.dep has nothing labeled 'char', so it 
should not be looking for this as a module.

My friend, it is time to experiment with replacing memory or to take a hard 
look at your HDD.  The kernel is showing some damage here, trying to load as 
a module what is built-in  (no modular options in a kernel compilation).

A temporary cure is reinstallation, but this sort of behavior means serious 
trouble, most likely with hardware.  

rgrep -r -i "modprobe char" /etc

showed nothing, so Mandrake initscripts and /etc/modules.conf are not causing 
this behavior.  Did you install anything recently, like right before this 
happened?  If not, look at your hardware.


Civileme

char


 PLEASE help!

 Thank you,

 Revenant.

 
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Re: [newbie] Creating PDF Files From within StarOffice

2000-12-28 Thread A V Flinsch

On Wednesday 27 December 2000 21:06, you wrote:
 Some time ago when StarOffice was 5.2 someone put out instructions and
 a small script file that enabled users to create PDF files from star
 office by printing to a PDF printer device. I've been able to get this
 to work under md7.2 with little effort and it seems to work OK. It
 consists of an instruction file (in pdf) and a script file (total size
 about 25kbyte). If anyone wants the info let me know.

 Its a pity it couldn't be a permanent part of either star office or the
 md7.x install as it certainly makes things easier.

 Nev

from staroffice
file
 print
 select generic postscript printer
 check print to file box 
 give it a filename
 OK

from console
 ps2pdf file_you_saved_above


-- 
Alex
(Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)




Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-28 Thread Po Kwok

Revenant wrote:
 
 John Arkoulis wrote:
 Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the new
 fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon)
 Yes I know G4 is a MAC.
 Which one do you think is best for Linux???
 Thanks
 
   http://www.tomshardware.com is pretty good.  Doesn't cover the Mac,
 but of the other two, the short version is: Intel chips perform slightly
 faster at the same MHz, but can cost as much as 2.5x as much.  Intel
 have also been having a few stability probs lately.
 
   Re: The P4s, they seem to be roughly the equivalent of P3s of the same
 MHz (if there were such a thing).  They get a big performance boost if
 the software is P4-optimised but, as none of it is at the moment, that's
 a fairly nebulous advantage.  http://www.tomshardware.com has more on
 this.
 

One problem with the Pentium 4 is that not all Linux distributions are
supporting it at the moment.  I think Redhat 'supports' it, but Caldera
and Mandrake haven't jumped on to the bandwagon.  What this 'support'
means is that the installation will recognize the CPU as a Pentium 4,
and install accordingly.

I have yet to install Linux on my G4 400MHz tower yet (I know, it's only
single CPU), but based on my reading, I am aware that you will need a
Linux distribution that will really take real advantage of SMP.  I am
under the impression that Yellow Dog Linux will be much better at this
than Linux PPC 2000.

Po Kwok
Sydney, Australia




Re: [newbie] How many partitions?

2000-12-28 Thread Mark Weaver

Louis,

You can do what you're describing. What you have to do is using DOS fdisk 
make your windows partition. Don't make any extended partitions. Only the 
primary that you're going to need for windows to live on. Don't use all the 
space on the drive either. I'd say 1/2 of the drive is more then enough for 
windows.

Now, after you're satisfied with your installation of Windows stick the 
Mandrake CD in the drive and reboot your machine booting from the CDROM. When 
the screen comes up hit F1 and on the command line type "expert". (quoteless 
of course).

The installation will begin and you will be presented with numerous prompts 
and questions, none of which are too difficult even for a raw newbie who 
knows his/her machine decently. A few minutes into the process you will be 
presented with a screen for Diskdrake that will want you to define your 
partitions for your Linux Mandrake installation. Here is a basic, never fail 
partition definition solution.

/boot = 30MB
/home = 5GB  # remember...this is a LARGE drive and we're planning ahead
/ = 500MB # the 'root' partition
/usr= 3GB # generally the place where all the binaries live (programs)
/var= 3GB # Mandrake uses this dir for web related files now as opposed
   # to the /home dir these days...but thats another matter.
   # the data base software also uses this dir to store it's files
/swap
note---{split what you have left of the drive between your swap and an 
and this archive partition...If you're using 64MB of RAM your 
shouldn't need to be any larger then 160MB; if you're using 
128MB of RAM then at the most 300MB for Swap. Any more 
RAM then this and you really don't need a /swap partition.}
/archive # this partition is optional, although it's nice to have some where 
   to stick all your stuff when you download it. You can also use the
   archive to store backups if you wish. Just an idea though...

The great thing about partitioning your drive like this is when/if you would 
do subsequent installs the with this partition solution the only partitions 
you would need to format and worry about are the / (root) and /usr 
partitions. The data on the other partitions, and especially the /home 
partition would be totally intact and safe from erasure during any 
installation processes. Now THIS is real freedom!

As for which bootloader to use I'm partial to LILO having used it almost 
exclusively since starting with Linux. (2 years now). I've used Grub in the 
past and on another one of my machines, but I very much prefer LILO. Just my 
personal preference. Both work. On older machines the /boot partitiion was a 
necessity because LILO had cylinder limitations that it no longer has, 
however, old habits die hard and this is one of those tried and true methods 
of Hard drive layout that just keeps producing great results. So, if it ain't 
broke...don't fix it. It's only 30MB's.

Good luck and enjoy Mandrake. In my opinion it's the best Linux distro yet.

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," 
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds


On Thursday 28 December 2000 04:48, you wrote:
 My install of 7.2 would not even let me do this. I was trying to put it on
 a 30 gig drive with W98 2nd being first. Would not work, at least for me.
 The board is an Intel D815eea, Matrox 30gig with ata 66.

 Louis





Re: [newbie] telnet/SSH

2000-12-28 Thread Tim Holmes

Okay, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't sending a post that solved a problem
you didn't have, so that's why I asked.

But Mark may be correct, you may not have the server installed. You can have
the client installed and be able to connect to a remote machine, but will not
be able to connect to your own machine.  So run this command

rpm -qa |grep openssh
rpm -qa |grep telnet

That will tell you what packages for openssh and telnet are installed.  For 
example, on a friend's machine I ran those commands, and here's what I got
in return.

[timh@eric timh]$ rpm -qa |grep openssh
openssh-2.1.1p3-3mdk
openssh-askpass-2.1.1p3-3mdk
openssh-clients-2.1.1p3-3mdk
openssh-server-2.1.1p3-3mdk

[timh@eric timh]$ rpm -qa |grep telnet 
ktelnet-0.61-6mdk
telnet-0.16-4mdk
telnet-server-0.16-4mdk

So with out that openssh-server-2.1.1p3-3mdk, you will not be able to create
a ssh connection to that server.  So start out by trying that.

You will need to have a ssh key created.  Using the ssh-keygen command will 
walk you through setting that up.  Keep in mind the key's passwd, DOES NOT
have to be the same as that account's passwd.

So give that a try and let me know if that doesn't work. Then we can go from
there.
tdh
--
T. Holmes
Unixtechs.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.unixtechs.org/

"Real Men use Vi."

* Ben Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001226 17:24]:
 SSH, the reason the subject says telnet is because that is where the thread 
 started.
 
 At 11:38 26/12/2000 , you wrote:
 Wait a minute... I want to make sure I'm address the correct issue first.
 Are you asking about a telnet issue?  Or a SSH issue?  Meanwhile the two
 are tied in together, in a very round about way, but they are completely
 different.  Let us know and I'll try and take it from there.
 tdh
 --
 T. Holmes
 Unixtechs.org
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.unixtechs.org/
 
 "Real Men use Vi."




Re: [newbie] wu-ftpd

2000-12-28 Thread Irwan Hadi

At 01:54 AM 12/28/00 -0800, you wrote:
hi

does anyone know how to setup user account for only
wuftpd ?
i don't wanna user in ftp can access in telnet or
others thing !

any simple and good website about tutorial wu-ftpd ?



well you can try proftpd see www.proftpd.net and you can make your own "ftp 
users' instead of using /etc/passwd
you can create like /usr/local/proftpd/etc/passwd
or mysql based authentification






Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread Mark Weaver

I think he's refering to recompiling the kernel for his family of processor.

On Thursday 28 December 2000 05:32, you wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view
  point on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.
  Mandrake 7.2 is fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for
  my processors architecture.

 SNIP

   How do you recompile for an Athlon?

 
 Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design
 For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real-
 world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds.
 ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," 
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds




Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Mark Weaver

Nh...there's no problem there...

On Thursday 28 December 2000 05:39, you wrote:
 so you don't like it when some one says something you don't like to hear
 LOL hahahahahahahaha

 - Original Message -
 From: "Romanator" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 1:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

  Could be. Could be...
 
  Mark Weaver wrote:
   Good ole tony sounds like a good candidate for the twit list, huh?
  
   Mark
  
   From: Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:39:54 -0500
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
   
   Careful, we use trained man-eating penguins. Argghh...
   
   Roman
   
   Mark Weaver wrote:
On Tuesday 26 December 2000 22:53, you wrote:
 Says who 
   
don't you have a few installs to take care of or something? :\
--
Mark
   
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being

 worthless,"

"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
   
Linus Torvalds

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," 
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds




Re: [newbie] Netcomm USB Modem Unrecognised

2000-12-28 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Wednesday 27 December 2000 04:30 pm, nicole davies wrote:
 Tom,
 I guess what your saying is that netcomm is a winmodem
 ?? 

 No, only that that link is a good place to begin finding out if it is.

I can't find anything on the URL that mentions USB
 modems, or is that irrelevant.

??  OK, I went to that link and used my browser to search the 
entire list for 'netcomm'.  It went right to the Roadster II. It's 
listed as unknown, but there's a link to the manufacturers website.
There it says 'Works with W98 and W2k'.  Usually that means it _only_ 
works with W98-2k, but there's also a downloadable specification (pdf).
If you're still not sure after reading that, a search of various ML and 
newsgroup archives is prob'ly your next best bet.

 Can you recommend a
 driver / or is there none avail ?

  No, IMO, if it's a winmodem (and it looks like it is) it's not 
worth having even if you only use it with Windoze.  If you do a Google 
search on 'linmodem' you might turn something up tho.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

 --- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wednesday 27 December 2000 03:25 am, Paul 
 
  Nicole wrote:
   I have just installed LM 7.2 and can't get my
 
  modem working. I'm not
 
   100% sure it is supported, Netcomm Roadster II 56K
 
  USB.
 
 http://www.kcdata.com/~gromitkc/winmodem.html




RE: [newbie] Nvidia Riva 128Z acceleration

2000-12-28 Thread Charles A Edwards

I am not Civileme but I think I can answer your question since I have used a
Riva128 card before.
In order for the 4.0 simple server to be installed you can not accept the
generic Riva128 designation you need to select the specific card that you
have or if that is not listed 1 with the same amount of ram and "the same"
abilities. An example is that say your card is not listed and it has 16mb
with built in 3d accel then you could choose to designate your card as
either a GrahicsBlaster Riva TNT, which is listed under Other, or you could
choose the Velocity 4400, which is listed under STB.

   Charles  (-:


Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 5:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Nvidia Riva 128Z acceleration


Dear Civileme
I have seen the Mandrakeforum.com, but using the lings these files are
not applicable to the Riva 128Z; they consider that this could be work
fine with XFree 3.36 and 4.0.
Nevertheless, Mandrake 7.2 in personal installation just gives me the
oportunity to select between 3.36 with acceleration or without
aceleration; there is a message about the possibility to use 4.01 but
not the possibility to select it.
My questions are:

1) It is possible acceleration for this video card using XFree 4.0 or
4.01?

2) In this case do I need to select an expert installation?

A question for everybody, there is any person that has reached the
acceleration with this video card (Nvidia Riva 128Z) on Mandrake 7.2?,
How?

Thanks so much for your help

Francisco Alcaraz
Murcia (Spain)







[newbie] Re: [expert] What the heck is this daily cron task?

2000-12-28 Thread A V Flinsch


 What is this task:

 [chris@localhost cron.daily]$ less slocate.cron

 #!/bin/sh

 /usr/bin/slocate -u -f
 "udf,nfs,smbfs,ncpfs,proc,devpts,iso9660,usbdevfs" -e
 "/tmp,/var/tmp,/usr/tmp,/afs,/net"

 This annoying task looks around on my hard drive for half an hour,
 consuming 50% of my CPU time on a PII 300. Is this needed? Can I cancel
 it? I have no idea what it's trying to do.

It is building the database used by locate. Locate allows you to quickly
find a file, or files with a given stirng int he name. It is pretty
useful.

If you find it annoying, you can remove the entry from the crontab. If
you find locate to be useful, perhaps you can reschedule it to run at a
more convient time for you.



--
Alex
(Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)




RE: [newbie] Signal 7....

2000-12-28 Thread Charles A Edwards



 .

-Original Message-
From: ZER0 FREQUENCY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 7:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Signal 7



Charles A Edwards wrote:

GPL has nothing to do with the RAM requirement.

You can run the install with less than 32MB but with 2 caveats
 1)You have to perform the installation in text mode.

How do I do it in text mode?


  Press F1 when the CD boots and type text at the prompt



 2)You can not install the X window system

I don't mind. I can live in the console or my name ain't the ZER0
FREQUENCY : What is important right now is getting helium installed.
AFAIK, X requires an 8MB or 16MB minimum to run fine


To me, unless you are planning to run your system only as a firewall or a
file server, there would be no point in even doing the installation.

Personally, linux w/ or w/o the graphics is still a productive OS
depending on the capacity of the user's ability and know-how on his/her way
around linux. Linux's real power comes from console and not the
graphics...although I admit it'll look prettier if I can run X. I'm aiming
for windowmaker or blackbox as my window manager since they generally use
much less memory than KDE. I'll try GNOME, though.



  All those still window managers require that XFree be installed and
even 3.3 requires more ram.



Btw, I checked out Signal 7 which led me to SIGBUS, It seems SIGBUS is
an anomalous fatal failure execution of ASM which results the processor
detecting an anomalous condition on it's bus. Ergo, I hope the error is
caused by some buggy code in the installation process and the memory is
irrelevant.



   By all means run the installation in text mode and see what happens
   Let me know how it comes out.


Charles  (-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.







Re: [newbie] TEST

2000-12-28 Thread Mark Weaver

On Thursday 28 December 2000 06:07, you wrote:
 Are you recieving this?

 I'm recieving zero replies to my (somewhat desperate  pleading)
 requests for help.  Are they getting through alright?

 Thank you,

 Revenant.

Recieving just fine. List is fairly active this morning.
-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," 
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds




Re: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Jim Dawson

Actually, 'Whistler' is based on Windows 2000 and (according 
to Microsoft) will contain no legacy 16-bit code. (I'll 
believe it when I see it.)

On the plus side, it will probabally be the most stable 
desktop version of Windows ever. On the other hand a lot of 
older programs will break under Whistler.

Given Microsoft's track record on OS releases, the 3Q 2001 
release date will more likely be 2Q 2002 or later... 

 On Thursday 28 December 2000 03:06, you wrote:
  There's an update to Millennium coming out later this 
year. I think it's
  name is Whistler.
 
 
 Yeah...that short for "Whistle friggin dixie while you 
wait for ever for your 
 computer to stinkin work correctly cause this OS sucks!" 
I'm sorry. Win 95B 
 is a good one and 98SE isn't too bad as long as you keep 
the registry squeeky 
 clean; NT4.0 with "all" the service pack installed and 
kept clean will run 
 well too, but WinME is a joke! What were they thinking?
 
 Sorry to the list cause this ain't a windows forum.
 
 Nowdie...thread DIE! :)
 -- 
 Mark
 
 "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up 
being worthless," 
 "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
 
   Linus Torvalds
 
 





Re: [newbie] Advice needed on firewall...

2000-12-28 Thread Michael O'Henly

On Wednesday 27 December 2000 21:53, you wrote:

 After setting up ipchains with pmfirewall's script, also find portsentry
 and have that loaded. Works fine against port-attacks. Then you should be
 reasonably safe.

Thanks for your reply. I'm interested that you run portsentry as well as 
PMfirewall. In a situation where you've blocked all access to your network 
from external hosts (as I have), would running portsentry be redundant? I'm 
trying to decide whether I should add portsentry or not.

The way I understand it, portsentry senses a port scan and then immediately 
creates a rule that adds the scanning host to a REJECT or DENY rule. So if 
you've told your firewall to do this by default for all external hosts, is 
that the same thing?

Thanks.

M.

-- 
Michael O'Henly
TENZO Design




Re: [newbie] Advice needed on firewall...

2000-12-28 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Wednesday 27 December 2000 08:27 pm, Michael O'Henly wrote:
 I've tested this
 network with Shields Up and it does indeed appear not to be visible
 to casual miscreants.
PMfirewall is available at ... http://www.pointman.org/
 Shields Up is available at... https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd

http://www.sdesign.com/securitytest/   Complete scan is a much better 
test than Shields up.   Test takes 30 minutes or more and they email 
you a full report.  Still, a clean bill of health from them doesn't 
mean your system's bulletproof either. 

  IMO, Shields Up is actually a disservice. Even vulnerable systems 
get a rave review, ie, 'full stealth' and 'your computer doesn't even 
appear to exist'.  One bit of good advice on the Shields Up site : 
A FALSE sense of security is worse than being unsure.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




Re: Re[2]: [newbie] The NVIDIA Kernel Compile

2000-12-28 Thread s

On Thursday 14 December 2000 12:16 am, you wrote:
 Hellos,

 Wednesday, December 27, 2000, 5:31:59 PM, you wrote:

 s Great thanks.  That did the trick.  Now if I could get the agpgart
 moduled to s load so I could install the nvidia drivers I would be
 delirious. s -s

  You are welcome :)
  Do you have an i815 board ? I came to that problem (agpgart and new
  kernels) only on that one, and could not solve it anyhow

   Onur

Yep, an i815.  It's a mess.  I tried loading the module first, even 
unsupported.  I tried modifying the nvdriver kernel so that it would use it's 
own agp.  Just won't work.  Somebody's bound to think of something soon, I 
hope. 
-s




Re: [newbie] Netcomm USB Modem Unrecognised

2000-12-28 Thread Joseph Red

Have you looked at www.linux-usb.org ?

Joseph Red
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - 
From: "nicole davies" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Netcomm USB Modem Unrecognised


 Tom,
 
 I guess what your saying is that netcomm is a winmodem
 ?? I can't find anything on the URL that mentions USB
 modems, or is that irrelevant. Can you recommend a
 driver / or is there none avail ?
 
 Sorry for all the questions
 
 Later Paul
 
 --- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wednesday 27 December 2000 03:25 am, Paul 
  Nicole wrote:
  
   I have just installed LM 7.2 and can't get my
  modem working. I'm not
   100% sure it is supported, Netcomm Roadster II 56K
  USB. 
  
 http://www.kcdata.com/~gromitkc/winmodem.html  
  -- 
  Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Galveston Bay
  
 
 
 __
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 Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
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Re: [newbie] One more question about digital cameras...

2000-12-28 Thread Joseph Red

The way I fixed it, which isn't the "proper" or security-minded way, was to
give everyone rw access to ttyS0.  I just su'd  chmod.   my next
suggestion was going to be to try the other port :)

Joseph Red
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: "Ronald J. Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Mandrake Newbie Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 11:12 PM
Subject: [newbie] One more question about digital cameras...


 I do have another question concerning Gphoto and digital camera use. I was
only
 able to get it to work as "su" because my normal user returned a
permission
 error on ttyxxx...

 I understand that normally, though kppp, my user can access ttyS00 because
its
 really linked to /dev/modem, which has all permissions turned on so...

 How do I set things up so that my normal user account can use Gphoto and
access
 the ttyxxx that it needs?

 Thanks much! ;-)






RE: [newbie] How many partitions?

2000-12-28 Thread Lon Lentz


  Question for you. I'm trying to do this with 7.1 on my notebook, and the
system locks at the partition setup. What kind of problems were you having,
and what did you end up doing? How was your drive partitioned prior to
attempting the ManLin install?

Lon Lentz
Applications Developer  CyberEntomologist - Alvion Technologies
DataWarehousing and List Sales - Market Your Lists on the Net!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
941-574-8600 Ext. 210

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Louis F. Brooks
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 11:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] How many partitions?


My install of 7.2 would not even let me do this. I was trying to put it on a
30 gig drive with W98 2nd being first. Would not work, at least for me. The
board is an Intel D815eea, Matrox 30gig with ata 66.

Louis






Re: [newbie] Nvidia Riva 128Z acceleration

2000-12-28 Thread Meph Istopheles

  Hey,

 1) It is possible acceleration for this video card using XFree
 4.0 or 4.01?
 2) In this case do I need to select an expert installation?

 A question for everybody, there is any person that has reached
 the acceleration with this video card (Nvidia Riva 128Z) on
 Mandrake 7.2?, How?

  I'm wondering about this myself.  I've a Diamond Viper 770D
wiht a Riva TnT [nv5] (or so lm7.2 has identified it by the
chip-set).

  When I was running RH6.0, Dell had written up a different Xf86
file,  had acceleration for what ever version of Xfree was
installed with RH6.0.  Now, under the 4.0, I, of course, don't
have acceleration.

  If I'd not had such an unsuccessful experience trying to get my
sound to work with the Dell isapnp, I'd try the Xf86 file, or
switch to the 3.3.6 version.  But why?

  What realistic options do I have when I just love all the
pretty colours?

  Meph

-- 
  "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
  -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux





Re: [newbie] How many partitions?

2000-12-28 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Wednesday 27 December 2000 07:44 pm, Anthony wrote:
 I use 3 partitions: /, /home, and swap. You'll definitly want to make
 /home on it's own partition, since it makes reinstalling Linux a TON
 easier.

 Or a nightmare when there's significant differences, eg, 7.1 to 7.2
IMO, it's always better to do a complete wipe, then a fresh install.

 All your personal files and config files are saved, so when
 you reinstall you don't have to start over from scratch. Other than
 that partition though, the rest are up to you.

These personal files should be bak'd up in a different location. So 
it's easy to copy them back in, no need to preserve an old /home. 
'Specially if it's loaded up with a lot of obsolete files, apps, and 
configs.

 I"m not sure about the sizes. I have 1.5 GB dedicated to /home and 7
 GB to /, and that is plenty. But you could probally go with less if
 you needed.

And there in lies the problem.  Why restrict any Linux install to 
less than efficient use of all the available disk space?  For a 
personal desktop system that's been secured, there's no compelling 
reasons to not consider putting all of Linux in / .  For new users, or 
just those who still want to have all the various often suggested Linux 
partitions, consider running Linux all in one big / for awhile.  At 
least then you can see how big partitions like /usr, /home, etc. need 
to be (du -ch /dir).  Still, there's no right answer to which ones?, 
and how big?  Only others opinions, and what currently works for you. 
IMO, putting all of Linux in / , and not too much in /swap, is the most 
efficient use of disk space.  2 partitions, been doing it for years ;
 
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




Re: [newbie] Advice needed on firewall...

2000-12-28 Thread David Boles


On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:59:43 -0600, Tom Brinkman said:

 On Wednesday 27 December 2000 08:27 pm, Michael O'Henly wrote:
   I've tested this
   network with Shields Up and it does indeed appear not to be visible
   to casual miscreants.
  PMfirewall is available at ... http://www.pointman.org/
   Shields Up is available at... https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd
  
  http://www.sdesign.com/securitytest/   Complete scan is a much better 
  test than Shields up.   Test takes 30 minutes or more and they email 
  you a full report.  Still, a clean bill of health from them doesn't 
  mean your system's bulletproof either. 
  
IMO, Shields Up is actually a disservice. Even vulnerable systems 
  get a rave review, ie, 'full stealth' and 'your computer doesn't even 
  appear to exist'.  One bit of good advice on the Shields Up site : 
  A FALSE sense of security is worse than being unsure.
  -- 
  Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

I tried the Secure Design site and the only ports I have open are 1024 and 1025
 which, the report says, are for RFS - Remote File Sharing. Could anyone tell
me what these ports are used for, what L-M 7.2 program controls them, and if
the is a "bad thing" to have open? I have a small, home LAN that is only used
for IP/phone line sharing and there is no real need for any kind of file
sharing.

-- 

David Boles
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Rick Commo

Whistler is no an "update" to Windows ME.  It is the complete replacement of
all previous "consumer" Windows versions (Win95, Win98, WinME) with a
Windows NT based code source.

What this means for Microsoft is that all "markets" - consumer, workstation
and server - will have the same code base.  Some of the GUI shell stuff will
be different between the consumer and workstation/server versions no doubt,
but the core OS will be NT based.

Cheers and Happy New Year to all,
Rick

-Original Message-
From: Romanator
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 7:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux


There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's
name is Whistler.

goldenpi wrote:

 Give it time. I have just seen windows millenium and I can assure you it
will
.
.
.





RE: [newbie] TEST

2000-12-28 Thread John Hart

You are coming through fine...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Revenant
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 1:08 AM
To: Newbie List - Linux Mandrake
Subject: [newbie] TEST


Are you recieving this?

I'm recieving zero replies to my (somewhat desperate  pleading)
requests for help.  Are they getting through alright?

Thank you,

Revenant.


Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design 
For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real-
world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds.
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Re: [newbie] Where is the kernel?

2000-12-28 Thread Jason Kary



Do you have the kernel-src installed??? rpm -qa| grep kernel
If so you can find it by using: rpm -ql pkg> where pkg is
the name of the package.
JK

Arlindo Fragoso wrote:

Hi!
I've searched in /usr/src for the kernel file but I d'ont see it!!!
I've tried to compile a new kernel doing "make xconfig" or menuconfig but
I get an error mensage. How to compile the kernel in Mandrake 7.1?
TIA
AF





Re: [newbie] Re: KDE2.1 Updates

2000-12-28 Thread Barry Premeaux

Gary de Montigny wrote:
 
 This message was sent from: Linux Mandrake Newbie.
 http://telesoft.ca/phorum/read.php?f=6i=1679t=1662
 
 
 Where can I find the KDE 2.1 upgrade?  Thanks.
 
 Gary de Montigny
 
 
 Sent using Phorum software version 3.2.11 http://phorum.org

You can try either of the following sites.  Personally, I'm using
the ones from the first site.

ftp://nebsllc.com/pub/KDE_UPDATE/

http://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/unstable/distribution/2.1beta1/rpm/Mandrake/7.2/

Barry :-)




Re: [newbie] Where is the kernel?

2000-12-28 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Thursday 28 December 2000 05:27 am, Arlindo Fragoso wrote:
 I've searched in /usr/src for the kernel file but I d'ont see it!!!
 I've tried to compile a new kernel doing "make xconfig" or menuconfig
 but I get an error mensage. How to compile the kernel in Mandrake
 7.1?

  http://mandrakeuser.org/install/kupgrade.html
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




[newbie] really basic questions

2000-12-28 Thread lesowens

Hi all,

i have a really basic question or two 
to ask the group.

1. i've loaded l-m7.2 into my pc, and 
it looks real cool but as yet i dont 
have a clue what to do with it next. i 
think i'm suffering from hyperwinism 
(windoz induced inferiority complex). 

2.where do i need to begin 
concentrating my slow learning curve 
to start making this work? my 
experience is all operator/user and 
some of these unix commands are 
familiar from my work experience, but 
most of that is task related.

i've read a few howto's and still in 
the l-m installation and user guide. 
i've made an icon or two in kde (but 
the programs didnt work yet).

i'm kinda overwhelmed... is this 
normal? or am i ungeekable?

les in gastonia nc 




Re: [newbie] Creating PDF Files From within StarOffice

2000-12-28 Thread cpdewman

I would like this info. Although I am having trouble getting 7.2
installed. THink I will be going back to 7.1.






[newbie] Mandrake update: fetching of mirror list failed

2000-12-28 Thread Dr. Trevor J. Stocki

Hi,
I was trying to update my Linux 7.1 using the Mandrake Update program and
I got the message:

fetching of mirror list failed.

Then it just dumped me out of the program.  I can ftp to places ok but my 
netscape needs
a http proxy in order to work.  How can I fix this problem?

Can I simply download the free installation from mandrake the two disks and 
upgrade that
way? or will there be a lot of conflicts?


Thank you inadvance,
Sincerely,
Trevor J. Stocki
   





[newbie] Installing Kdevelop on MDK7.2

2000-12-28 Thread Romanator

Hi everybody,

Has any one tried installing kdevelop on mdk7.2? Will it work - as it
used to be available with mdk7.1?
I was wondering why it was pulled...

Cheers!
-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293




RE: [newbie] really basic questions

2000-12-28 Thread Jeff Norris

I'm sure we're all "geekable" to some extent. Maybe just not worthy of a
pocket protector and tape on the eyeglasses.  :)



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 6:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] really basic questions


Hi all,

i have a really basic question or two
to ask the group.

1. i've loaded l-m7.2 into my pc, and
it looks real cool but as yet i dont
have a clue what to do with it next. i
think i'm suffering from hyperwinism
(windoz induced inferiority complex).

2.where do i need to begin
concentrating my slow learning curve
to start making this work? my
experience is all operator/user and
some of these unix commands are
familiar from my work experience, but
most of that is task related.

i've read a few howto's and still in
the l-m installation and user guide.
i've made an icon or two in kde (but
the programs didnt work yet).

i'm kinda overwhelmed... is this
normal? or am i ungeekable?

les in gastonia nc







Re: [newbie] TEST

2000-12-28 Thread marcia

Yes, I have received it. Marcia




Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Romanator

Some of your favorite's from the past will not run correctly. It's best
to create another partition and install an older OS. Or, move to Linux.

Jim Dawson wrote:
 
 Actually, 'Whistler' is based on Windows 2000 and (according
 to Microsoft) will contain no legacy 16-bit code. (I'll
 believe it when I see it.)
 
 On the plus side, it will probabally be the most stable
 desktop version of Windows ever. On the other hand a lot of
 older programs will break under Whistler.
 
 Given Microsoft's track record on OS releases, the 3Q 2001
 release date will more likely be 2Q 2002 or later...
 
  On Thursday 28 December 2000 03:06, you wrote:
   There's an update to Millennium coming out later this
 year. I think it's
   name is Whistler.
  
 
  Yeah...that short for "Whistle friggin dixie while you
 wait for ever for your
  computer to stinkin work correctly cause this OS sucks!"
 I'm sorry. Win 95B
  is a good one and 98SE isn't too bad as long as you keep
 the registry squeeky
  clean; NT4.0 with "all" the service pack installed and
 kept clean will run
  well too, but WinME is a joke! What were they thinking?
 
  Sorry to the list cause this ain't a windows forum.
 
  Nowdie...thread DIE! :)
  --
  Mark
 
  "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up
 being worthless,"
  "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
 
Linus Torvalds
 
 

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293




Re: [newbie] Signal 7....

2000-12-28 Thread ZER0 FREQUENCY


Romanator wrote:

Check http://www.mandrakesoft.com. In addition, always check the
newsgroups or run a search on the mail archives before downloading. Yes,

Thanx!

32 Meg. of RAM is recommended. This ain't DOS...

Recommended but not the minimum.



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Re: [newbie] Modem Problems

2000-12-28 Thread Carroll Grigsby

Ted-
Before you're going to get a response, the people on this list who can
give you some help need some hints, such as:
1. The header says "Modem Problems", but the message talks about a sound
card. In either case, we need to know which modem, which sound card,
which CPU, how much RAM, what other stuff you've got installed on your
system. It's OK to say that you're trying to dual boot Mandrake on top
of Windows.
2. What version of Mandrake Linux are you installing? The tweaks change
with the versions.
3. What have you tried so far? Your definition of "necessary" doesn't
seem to agree with the Penguin's idea.
Try reposting with more facts and symptoms.
Regards,
Carroll


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Having trouble with configuring my sound card.  I've made the
 necessary
 adjustments on the settings, but to no avail.




RE: [newbie] Mandrake update: fetching of mirror list failed

2000-12-28 Thread Jeff Norris

Don't feel bad. Took me forever to get the KDE updates (and others) for 7.2.
Wouldn't find the mirrors etc. I finally got everything I needed though.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dr. Trevor J.
Stocki
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 5:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake update: fetching of mirror list failed


Hi,
I was trying to update my Linux 7.1 using the Mandrake Update program
and
I got the message:

fetching of mirror list failed.

Then it just dumped me out of the program.  I can ftp to places ok but my
netscape needs
a http proxy in order to work.  How can I fix this problem?

Can I simply download the free installation from mandrake the two disks and
upgrade that
way? or will there be a lot of conflicts?


Thank you inadvance,
Sincerely,
Trevor J. Stocki









[newbie] samba conf

2000-12-28 Thread Andri Genio

hi

Does anyone know how to set smb.conf that can work in
windows 98 and 2000 ?

I edit smb.conf but only works in windows 2000 only
not windows 98. 

can someone send smb.conf that works in both windows ?

thanks 

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Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
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Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Revenant

Romanator wrote:
 Revenant wrote:
  Clarification:  Millenium is MS eking the last $$$ it can out of the
  dying Win9x OS.  Whistler will be what Win2000 was supposed to be - the
  fusion of the NT line with the Win9x line.  It is supposed to be a very
  different beast to the Win9x line, including ME...
 Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are
 pushing our resources to their limits.

  shrug  Our resource limits are increasing.  Most software aims to
take maximum advantage of the hardware available.  Now that the industry
standard machine is a PIII, I'd be disappointed if the OS didn't have
additional functionality.

  That said, Windows *does* seem to have more than its fair share of
bloat...


Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design 
For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real-
world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds.
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Re: [newbie] Where is the kernel?

2000-12-28 Thread Mark Weaver

On Thursday 28 December 2000 11:27, you wrote:

  Hi!

 I've searched in /usr/src for the kernel file but I d'ont see it!!! I've
 tried to compile a new kernel doing "make xconfig" or menuconfig but I get
 an error mensage. How to compile the kernel in Mandrake 7.1?

 TIA

 AF

AF,

If you navigate to /usr/src you should see a few folders inside this dir. The 
kernel source lives in one of these. Most likely the one named linux-2.2.14-5 
or something like that. Enter this directory and only as root issue the 
command "make xconfig".

From the menu that comes up you will be able to configure the kernel as you 
wish.
-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," 
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds




Re: [newbie] Please help, can't get into Mandrake7.2!!!

2000-12-28 Thread Revenant

  I recently installed the Aureal soundcard drivers from Sourceforge. 
Do you think that is the problem?

  Is there a way to cure it short of reinstallation?

  Please remind me - what are tty0 and ttys3?

  Thank you.


  Revenant.

civileme wrote:
 On Thursday 28 December 2000 04:24, you wrote:
  My Mandrake 7.2 is configured to boot graphically.  It works well until
  the point where you would normally enter your login and password.
SNIP
  Dec 27 18:57:27 revenant kernel: parport0: no IEEE-1284 device present.
  Dec 27 18:57:27 revenant kernel: lp0: using parport0 (polling).
  Dec 27 18:57:27 revenant modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
  char-major-4
  Dec 27 18:57:28 revenant last message repeated 67 times
  Dec 27 18:57:28 revenant modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
  char-major-180
 file:/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-2.2.17/devices.txt
 
 says char-major-4 minor 0-63 are your /dev/tty0, 1, 
 the next numbers are for /dev/ttys0-/dev/ttys3  Total is 67.
 
 So you have no launch pad for your Graphical login.
 
 file:/lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/modules.dep has nothing labeled 'char',
 so it should not be looking for this as a module.
 
 My friend, it is time to experiment with replacing memory or to take
 a hard look at your HDD.  The kernel is showing some damage here,
 trying to load as a module what is built-in  (no modular options in a
 kernel compilation).
 
 A temporary cure is reinstallation, but this sort of behavior means
 serious trouble, most likely with hardware.
 
 rgrep -r -i "modprobe char" /etc
 
 showed nothing, so Mandrake initscripts and /etc/modules.conf are not
 causing this behavior.  Did you install anything recently, like right
 before this happened?  If not, look at your hardware.
 
 Civileme
 
 char


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For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real-
world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds.
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Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread Penndragon

Hi Roger


 I totally agree...I first started using Linux about 4 months ago, and
 started out with KDE, as it provided a familiar environment. However,
 after a while, I started to notice it did take up some resources that
 could have been put to better use (and this was while I still only had 64
 meg RAM). Blackbox is faster, and to me just _feels_ more "linux-y."


 peace,


I must admit the others do seem somewhat faster than KDE. I find the sound
on startup with KDE breaks up whilst it's fine in most others. Use mostly
Gnome or Enlightenment for the moment, but still getting the feel for the
others.

James
 Rog
 http://www.slammingrooves.com
 Registered Linux user #19071

 On 27 Dec 2000, Michael Scottaline wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view
point
  on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.  Mandrake 7.2
is
  fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for my processors
  architecture.  windowmaker opens from startx (enter) to finished in
about 2
  seconds ;-)
  ===
  Blackbox will probably do it in less than one!!  Give it a try if you're
  willing to forego eyecandy and like the understated elegance of
simplicity.
  Runs just about any KDE or Gnome app with NO problem.
  Mike
 
  "Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol
  than alcohol has taken out of me."
  --Winston Churchill
 
  
  Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at
http://home.netscape.com/webmail
 
 
 







Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Paul

On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Revenant wrote:

 There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's
 name is Whistler.
SNIP
Clarification:  Millenium is MS eking the last $$$ it can out of the
dying Win9x OS.  Whistler will be what Win2000 was supposed to be - the
fusion of the NT line with the Win9x line.  It is supposed to be a very
different beast to the Win9x line, including ME...

Which is good. Win9x and Win ME are bad. They die when you run them.
Paul
 (speaking from too much experience...)

-- 
At a certain time there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
And it isn't a train.

http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403
 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31





Re: [Re: [[newbie] modem port prob]]

2000-12-28 Thread Penndragon

Hi Louis

 James,

   Go to this link :  http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/rg/  - there is some good
 info concerning what modems will work.

   Two PCI modems are listed as working , they are

   Actiontec PCI Call-Waiting - model PCI56012-01CW

   3COM/USR PCI - model 3cp5610a

   I am using a 3COM/USR EXT model 5686-03 and it is working fine. The
truth
 of the matter is with Windows and Linux/Unix you will probably be better
off
 using an external modem. Many older DOS and Windows based programs, some
 still on the market, have trouble supporting PCI slotted modems. I suspect
 that with the current bus mastering been used on motherboards and the lack
 of support from PCI modem manufactures, in regards to Linux, even a PCI
 modem that CAN be used, may pose some problems as far as getting a clean
 IRQ.

 good luck,

 Louis

Thanx for the advice. Think I'll be looking at adding the extra serial port
and external modem then to ease the transition between the two OS's

Jame







[newbie] When the printer goes mad

2000-12-28 Thread Paul

Hi everyone,

perhaps this is too simple, but it stumps me.
I accidentally sent a wrong print to the printer, and it went nuts
printing all kinds of garbage without end.

I could not find any way to stop this but to reboot the entire system (how
low can one go)...

Is there another way to reset the spooler, easier (and faster) than what I
did? After cancelling the print job, the printer kept going and going.
There must be a better way, but I rarely use the printer so I don't know.

A tip would be welcome :)

Paul

-- 
At a certain time there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
And it isn't a train.

http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403
 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31





Re: [newbie] How many partitions?

2000-12-28 Thread Paul

On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, jiten wrote:

what is the the solution?
say i want to have 3 partitions for win and /, /home, /swap, /var for
linux. how should i do it for 20 gb hd. i mean some partition has to go to
dos fat32 extended as we can have only 4 primary partitions of which one
has to be extended if we want totel of 7 partitions.
is there anything like linux extended??
-jiten

How much of the 20Gb do you want to sacrifice to Windoze? Do you play many
games on that, or something other that uses a lot of space?

Decide on that, and use fips/partitionmagic/completely clean install
with windows-fdisk to reserve that space.

Then install Mandrake, with /(root), swap and /home as separate
partitions. I'd personally also put /usr on a separate partition. Afaik,
Linux does not have this thing with primary and extended partitions that
the microsoft based systems do.

If you do not do a lot of windoze, my suggestion:

windoze: 5 Gb

/(root)  4Gb
/home7Gb
swap 2 x size of your RAM
/usr 3Gb

In case you do not want a separate /usr, move that space to /, Mandrake
will set up a /usr dir in there then.

Much windoze:

Windoze: 10 Gb

/(root)  3Gb
/home4Gb
swap 2 x size of RAM
/usr 3Gb

But that's my idea. Good luck in deciding. In the end the choice is yours.

Paul

-- 
At a certain time there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
And it isn't a train.

http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403
 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31





[newbie] Re: Digest for list newbie

2000-12-28 Thread John Batt

Len Lawrence wrote:

 Have you tried Camera - Summary?  That should tell you if the camera is
 properly recognized.  The information would include battery state and the
 number of photos already taken.


Hi Len. Yep, I tried that. It waits several seconds then blows up an info box
that has blank entries in it. ;-(

According to my owners manual (camera), the camera is supposed to beep when 
the computer is turned on, IF it is properly connected. Well, it doesn't, so 
I guess that means I've got a port/irq problem, but danged if I know how to 
fix it. Gonna take the camera later today, and try it on my younger brothers 
dual booting Mandarke 7.2/Windog setup and see if it works on both sides 
there. 

Thanks for you help! ;-)

Try running gphoto as root.  I use it with my PDC 640 and have to become root 
so that I can use it.  As user it tells me that there is no camera.

John Batt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Anthony Daniell

Ok I think you can contact them at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] but I am still waiting for a reply to my email about there
cameras and that was three weeks ago.

Anthony Daniell.

- Original Message -
From: "Vic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux


 Does HP make their own printer drivers as well?

 If I had the e mail address I would
 e mail them and tell them they need
 to write linux drivers for their mice


 On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Anthony Daniell wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
 
 
   I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse
   support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse
   dialog. Ridiculous.
 
  Very true indeed. Kde should build a special mouse driver for mice that
have
  a scrol wheel and side buttons. Mine has four buttons and a scroll
wheel.
  And the people who make the mice should write software for linux also.
After
  all there are a lot of people using linux today.
 
  I feel that if every one using linux sent email to the logitech company
  asking for drivers/software for there products then they might do
something
  about it. i just bought a new printer, a lexmark Z32 because they have
  drivers for linux. And the Z52 has drivers for linux also.
 
  My mouse is a ms intelli mouse explorer and whith the software for
windoze I
  can get the buttons to do what ever I want them to do, and I can change
the
  icons as well. But I bought it because it does not have a ball in it and
can
  use it as either ps2 or usb.
 
  I also feel that linux should have surport for IDE CD Burners, not just
  SCSI.
 
  Regards Anthony Daniell







Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread abe

ok, millennium edition is the last microsoft OS built on the win9x
kernel (mixed 16 and 32bit kernel).  Win NT, 2000 and whistler are all
true 32bit OS and are based on a different kernel.   Microsoft wants to
get everyone using 32bit OS's and that is why millennium edition's gui
looks almost exactly like win2k's.  Whistler is the follow up to win2k. 
There will be a number of different versions of it, home, professional,
server, data center.  Basically it'll get microsoft into a point where
they only have to support one OS with different flavors rather then the
hell they have now.

Also, winNT/win2k's memory management is a *little bit* better then
win9x so they are a bit more stable or should I say that they are less
crash prone?  In theory anyway, why is it that no microsoft OS is stable
for more then a month or two?  My experience is that win2k is like a
giant 1950's american car.  Its a boat, slow to start, breaks often, and
requires a ton of maintanence.



Abe


Romanator wrote:
 
 There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's
 name is Whistler.
 
 goldenpi wrote:
 
  Give it time. I have just seen windows millenium and I can assure you it will
  not last. It is awful. It is slow. It takes up half my hard drive and then its
  optional parts take the rest. And it doesn't work.
 
  Windows 2k however is here to stay. I haven't seen it running but I have heard
  of it.
 
  On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, you wrote:
   - Original Message -
   From: David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM
   Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
  
  
I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse
support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse
dialog. Ridiculous.
  
   Very true indeed. Kde should build a special mouse driver for mice that have
   a scrol wheel and side buttons. Mine has four buttons and a scroll wheel.
   And the people who make the mice should write software for linux also. After
   all there are a lot of people using linux today.
  
   I feel that if every one using linux sent email to the logitech company
   asking for drivers/software for there products then they might do something
   about it. i just bought a new printer, a lexmark Z32 because they have
   drivers for linux. And the Z52 has drivers for linux also.
  
   My mouse is a ms intelli mouse explorer and whith the software for windoze I
   can get the buttons to do what ever I want them to do, and I can change the
   icons as well. But I bought it because it does not have a ball in it and can
   use it as either ps2 or usb.
  
   I also feel that linux should have surport for IDE CD Burners, not just
   SCSI.
  
   Regards Anthony Daniell
  --
  ==
  Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round
  geek.
 
 --
 Roman
 Registered Linux User #179293




Re: [newbie] Re: Help with Digital Camera

2000-12-28 Thread Ronald J. Hall

John Batt wrote:

 Try running gphoto as root.  I use it with my PDC 640 and have to become root
 so that I can use it.  As user it tells me that there is no camera.
 
 John Batt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi John. Thanks for the reply. Well, I got it working, and I did have to use
root (su), since it told me that I did not have permission to ttyxxx as my
normal user account.

Anyone know how to access ttyxxx as a normal user? ;-)

-- 
 
 /\
 DarkLord
 \/




Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread Roger Sherman

Just so you know, I'm not trying to say one is better than the other, or
trying to sell you, or anything...just stating my preference...which could
change in the next twenty minutes ;-)


peace,

Rog
http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #19071

On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Penndragon wrote:

 Hi Roger


  I totally agree...I first started using Linux about 4 months ago, and
  started out with KDE, as it provided a familiar environment. However,
  after a while, I started to notice it did take up some resources that
  could have been put to better use (and this was while I still only had 64
  meg RAM). Blackbox is faster, and to me just _feels_ more "linux-y."
 
 
  peace,
 

 I must admit the others do seem somewhat faster than KDE. I find the sound
 on startup with KDE breaks up whilst it's fine in most others. Use mostly
 Gnome or Enlightenment for the moment, but still getting the feel for the
 others.

 James
  Rog
  http://www.slammingrooves.com
  Registered Linux user #19071
 
  On 27 Dec 2000, Michael Scottaline wrote:
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view
 point
   on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.  Mandrake 7.2
 is
   fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for my processors
   architecture.  windowmaker opens from startx (enter) to finished in
 about 2
   seconds ;-)
   ===
   Blackbox will probably do it in less than one!!  Give it a try if you're
   willing to forego eyecandy and like the understated elegance of
 simplicity.
   Runs just about any KDE or Gnome app with NO problem.
   Mike
  
   "Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol
   than alcohol has taken out of me."
   --Winston Churchill
  
   
   Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at
 http://home.netscape.com/webmail
  
  
  
 
 









Re: [newbie] One more question about digital cameras...

2000-12-28 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Joseph Red wrote:
 
 The way I fixed it, which isn't the "proper" or security-minded way, was to
 give everyone rw access to ttyS0.  I just su'd  chmod.   my next
 suggestion was going to be to try the other port :)
 
 Joseph Red
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Joseph. Well, sometimes us 'Nix users don't always do things the "right"
way, do we? smile

I'll try doing that su/chmod route and see what happens. Is r+w both needed?
Did you try just read? Just curious as to how far we'd have to go to let Gphoto
access a port.

Thanks for your help!

-- 
 
 /\
 DarkLord
 \/




Re: [newbie] Holy emails Batman!!

2000-12-28 Thread Les Owens

I thought it was just me!

les 

Romanator wrote:
 
 Wow,
 
 Is every one getting 6 copies of each email?!
 
 --
 Roman
 Registered Linux User #179293




Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread abe

I did the same thing.  I started with KDE because I could understand it
with my leaving-windows-mentality.  Eventually I started playing around
with the different window managers looking for something that was
faster, used less resources, was more customizable and pleased my
aesthetic sense more directly.  Blackbox just didn't groove wiht me but
the nexty look and feel of windowmaker totally made me happy.


Abe


Roger Sherman wrote:
 
 I totally agree...I first started using Linux about 4 months ago, and
 started out with KDE, as it provided a familiar environment. However,
 after a while, I started to notice it did take up some resources that
 could have been put to better use (and this was while I still only had 64
 meg RAM). Blackbox is faster, and to me just _feels_ more "linux-y."
 
 peace,
 
 Rog
 http://www.slammingrooves.com
 Registered Linux user #19071
 
 On 27 Dec 2000, Michael Scottaline wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view point
  on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.  Mandrake 7.2 is
  fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for my processors
  architecture.  windowmaker opens from startx (enter) to finished in about 2
  seconds ;-)
  ===
  Blackbox will probably do it in less than one!!  Give it a try if you're
  willing to forego eyecandy and like the understated elegance of simplicity.
  Runs just about any KDE or Gnome app with NO problem.
  Mike
 
  "Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol
  than alcohol has taken out of me."
--Winston Churchill
 
  
  Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
http://home.netscape.com/webmail
 
 
 




Re: [newbie] Installing Kdevelop on MDK7.2

2000-12-28 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Thursday 28 December 2000 12:45 pm, Romanator wrote:

 Has any one tried installing kdevelop on mdk7.2? Will it work - as it
 used to be available with mdk7.1?
 I was wondering why it was pulled...

   kdevelop-2.0-4mdk   was available (and still is by an ftp search), 
but it's either unusable or seg11's on start.  It's one of the KDE1 
apps that wasn't ready when KDE2 was released. 
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




Re: [newbie] Re: [expert] What the heck is this daily cron task?

2000-12-28 Thread Ronald J. Hall

A V Flinsch wrote:

 It is building the database used by locate. Locate allows you to quickly
 find a file, or files with a given stirng int he name. It is pretty
 useful.
 
 If you find it annoying, you can remove the entry from the crontab. If
 you find locate to be useful, perhaps you can reschedule it to run at a
 more convient time for you.
 
 --
 Alex
 (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)

Alex has it right, and there is another option, remove the entry, and anytime
you think enough has changed on your system to warrant it, issue a:

locate -u

command, and it will update itself then...at -your- convenience.

"locate" to me is *very* useful. Wouldn't want to be without it... ;-)

-- 
 
 /\
 DarkLord
 \/




Re: [newbie] really basic questions

2000-12-28 Thread Abraham E Mandac Jr

Sounds like me 2 months ago.
--Abe

At 03:49 PM 12/28/00 -0800, you wrote:
sounds normal to me ;-)

   Original Message ---
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 18:31:42 -0500
 
  Hi all,
 
  i have a really basic question or two
  to ask the group.
 
  1. i've loaded l-m7.2 into my pc, and
  it looks real cool but as yet i dont
  have a clue what to do with it next. i
  think i'm suffering from hyperwinism
  (windoz induced inferiority complex).
 
  2.where do i need to begin
  concentrating my slow learning curve
  to start making this work? my
  experience is all operator/user and
  some of these unix commands are
  familiar from my work experience, but
  most of that is task related.
 
  i've read a few howto's and still in
  the l-m installation and user guide.
  i've made an icon or two in kde (but
  the programs didnt work yet).
 
  i'm kinda overwhelmed... is this
  normal? or am i ungeekable?
 
  les in gastonia nc
 

Jesus saves,
Allah forgives,
Chuthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.





Re: [newbie] Advice needed on firewall...

2000-12-28 Thread Mark Weaver

On Thursday 28 December 2000 14:59, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 27 December 2000 08:27 pm, Michael O'Henly wrote:
  I've tested this

  network with Shields Up and it does indeed appear not to be visible
  to casual miscreants.
 PMfirewall is available at ... http://www.pointman.org/
  Shields Up is available at... https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd

 http://www.sdesign.com/securitytest/   Complete scan is a much better
 test than Shields up.   Test takes 30 minutes or more and they email
 you a full report.  Still, a clean bill of health from them doesn't
 mean your system's bulletproof either.

   IMO, Shields Up is actually a disservice. Even vulnerable systems
 get a rave review, ie, 'full stealth' and 'your computer doesn't even
 appear to exist'.  One bit of good advice on the Shields Up site :
 A FALSE sense of security is worse than being unsure.

It's also a good idea to layer your systems security instead of expecting one 
app or tool to do the entire job for you. i.e. ipchains and PortSentry. This 
is a simple layer model that works nicely on most home machines.
-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," 
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds




Re: [newbie] really basic questions

2000-12-28 Thread Romanator

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 i have a really basic question or two
 to ask the group.
 
 1. i've loaded l-m7.2 into my pc, and
 it looks real cool but as yet i dont
 have a clue what to do with it next. i
 think i'm suffering from hyperwinism
 (windoz induced inferiority complex).
 
 2.where do i need to begin
 concentrating my slow learning curve
 to start making this work? my
 experience is all operator/user and
 some of these unix commands are
 familiar from my work experience, but
 most of that is task related.
 
 i've read a few howto's and still in
 the l-m installation and user guide.
 i've made an icon or two in kde (but
 the programs didnt work yet).
 
 i'm kinda overwhelmed... is this
 normal? or am i ungeekable?
 
 les in gastonia nc

Hi Les,

This is completely normal. It's impossible to soak in everything at one
time. Not only do you have a very solid operating system but a lot of
new applications. However, you will need to invest some time reading. 
I would recommend getting yourself a couple of good books on Linux. The
books will show the file and command structure of the operating system.
Plus, if you get stuck, just post a question on this newsgroup. 

You can check out the following books:
Linux in a Nutshell, from O'Reilley
Running Linux, from O'Reilley

Cheers!

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293




Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Vic

BOOM

it died.


On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Mark Weaver wrote:
WinME is a joke! What were they thinking?
 
 Sorry to the list cause this ain't a windows forum.
 
 Nowdie...thread DIE! :)
 -- 
 Mark
 
 "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," 
 "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
 
   Linus Torvalds




Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Anthony Daniell


 
 
 Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are
 pushing our resources to their limits.
 
 -- 
 Roman
 Registered Linux User #179293
 
Yes the os is getting bigger. But not getting better, the subject 
of this should be changed. or killed off

Anthony Daniell





Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Romanator

Anthony Daniell wrote:
 
 
 
  Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are
  pushing our resources to their limits.
 
  --
  Roman
  Registered Linux User #179293
 
 Yes the os is getting bigger. But not getting better, the subject
 of this should be changed. or killed off
 
 Anthony Daniell

Bang. I killed it.

Cheers!

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293




Re: [newbie] SIS6326 Video

2000-12-28 Thread Riker

Hello! 

I fixed the problem. Actually it was the monitor driver that I had
chosen. There are two different drivers for the monitor and I was
continually choosing the wrong one. Go figure. :) After choosing the
right monitor driver, all was well. 

Riker



Sevatio Octavio wrote:
 
 Which X version did you choose?  Try version 3 instead.
 Seve
 
 Original Message dated 3/6/00, 5:39:24 AM
 Author: "Riker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Re: [newbie] SIS6326 Video:
 
 Hello:
 
 I'm setting up Linux Mandrake 7.2 on a new machine. The install goes fine
 but after the first boot, and it tries to go into X it terminates and
 goes to a command line. The video card is an SIS 6326 and the mother
 board is a PC200 - Athalon800 - 64meg of ram.
 
 Any thoughts? Please inqure if more information is needed.
 
 Thanks,
 Riker
 
 P.S. This is the second system like this I'm installing it on. The other
 went perfectly. All the hardware is exactly the same.




Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread abe

yes I am.  With the 2.2.17 kernel the option is PPro (pentium pro) but I
noticed with the 2.4 kernel that there is one more level of optimization
called K7.  I juist haven't been able to build a 2.4 kernel that works
yet ;-(

Abe

Mark Weaver wrote:
 
 I think he's refering to recompiling the kernel for his family of processor.
 
 On Thursday 28 December 2000 05:32, you wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view
   point on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.
   Mandrake 7.2 is fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for
   my processors architecture.
 
  SNIP
 
How do you recompile for an Athlon?
 
  
  Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design
  For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real-
  world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds.
  ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --
 
 --
 Mark
 
 "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
 "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
 
 Linus Torvalds




Re: [newbie] Holy emails Batman!!

2000-12-28 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Romanator wrote:
 
 Wow,
 
 Is every one getting 6 copies of each email?!
 
 --
 Roman
 Registered Linux User #179293

I did just now, from Barry... This seems to come and go, as has been discussed
before, but 6 is the most I've seen. (doubles happen in a regularly irregular
way) smile

PS Would the real Barry please stand up? ;-)

-- 
 
 /\
 DarkLord
 \/




[newbie] boot virus

2000-12-28 Thread smithjw

Hi,

I found another place in the BIOS that had to do with boot viruses.  
Works fine now.  I went ahead and after all the warnings not to, 
placed logical Linux and FAT32 partitions in the same extended 
partition.  I've played a little with both OSs and haven't found any 
problems with it yet.  *fingers crossed*

Jake

Shop Safely Online Without a Credit Card
http://www.rocketcash.com




Re: [newbie] Holy emails Batman!!

2000-12-28 Thread Marcia

Dear All, I have been getting 3 or more of some emails. What is causing
that?
Marcia




Re: [newbie] Holy emails Batman!!

2000-12-28 Thread s

On Friday 29 December 2000 01:55 am, you wrote:
 Wow,

 Is every one getting 6 copies of each email?!

Not 6, but like 2 and 3!
-s




Re: [newbie] Holy emails Batman!!

2000-12-28 Thread Penndragon

Hi Guys,

Getting multi copies as well. Maybe a slight server hiccup?

James



 I thought it was just me!
 
 les 
 
 Romanator wrote:
  
  Wow,
  
  Is every one getting 6 copies of each email?!
  
  --
  Roman
  Registered Linux User #179293
 





Re: [newbie] When the printer goes mad

2000-12-28 Thread IRoKd

Paul:

While by far am I the Linux expert, I would say that you experience some
kind of buffer over run or something in your printer.  Before killing the
spool, I would turn the printer offline, then power it off to clear the
buffer.  Then, kill all the jobs, reset the spooler, etc, and fire the
printer back up to see what happens.

Hope this helps.

IRoKd

- Original Message -
From: "Paul" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:08 AM
Subject: [newbie] When the printer goes mad


 Hi everyone,

 perhaps this is too simple, but it stumps me.
 I accidentally sent a wrong print to the printer, and it went nuts
 printing all kinds of garbage without end.

 I could not find any way to stop this but to reboot the entire system (how
 low can one go)...

 Is there another way to reset the spooler, easier (and faster) than what I
 did? After cancelling the print job, the printer kept going and going.
 There must be a better way, but I rarely use the printer so I don't know.

 A tip would be welcome :)

 Paul

 --
 At a certain time there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
 And it isn't a train.

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  Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31



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Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-28 Thread Adam Willcox



Dual G4's kick butt. Butt you really don't 
even need Linux on a G4. MacOS X can do all that linux will.


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 3:37 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Fast CPU
  i think p4 is good, my 
  desktop is a p4 1.4ghz, but i read somewhere that 1.4 ghz arent too 
  compatible with linux unless you have the latest kernel...so get the 
  latest version of the distrobution you prefer so you'll be less likely to 
  not have an incompatible computer, so either go with the amd or p4, i'd go 
  with the p4 


Re: [newbie] Holy emails Batman!!

2000-12-28 Thread Paul

On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Romanator wrote:

Wow,

Is every one getting 6 copies of each email?!

Yup.
Paul

-- 
Save our trees: Stop printing tax forms!

http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403
 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31





Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

2000-12-28 Thread Paul

On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Revenant wrote:

 Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are
 pushing our resources to their limits.

  shrug  Our resource limits are increasing.  Most software aims to
take maximum advantage of the hardware available.  Now that the industry
standard machine is a PIII, I'd be disappointed if the OS didn't have
additional functionality.

But not more speed.
Lotus 1.2.3 version 1 that ran on the original 8086 is equally fast as
excel2000 on the 800Mhz P-III.

Paul

-- 
Save our trees: Stop printing tax forms!

http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403
 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31





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