Re: [newbie-it] modem e masterizzatore
Ciao io non riesco ad installare il modem e il masterizzatore sotto mandrake 8, il modem è un v.90 56 kb della motorola SM56 interno masterizzatore invece è un plexter cd w qualcuno di voi ha queste marche mi potete aiutare? se vi serve altri dati più specifici ve li darò. grazie laura Per il masterizzatore non posso proprio aiutarti. se vuoi informazioni sul modem, vai a questo indirizzo http://www.linux-mandrake.it/forum/devices/, mi e' stato detto che alcune volte i modem interni hanno bisogno di particolari driver per funzionare sotto linux (anche se a me sembra strano comunque...) che ti devo sacricare ed usare nella configurazione. c'e' una lista dei modem non supportati e di eventuali driver (ho visto che c'e' anche il forum )? per scaricarti i driver: http://e-www.motorola.com/products/softmodem/support/software.html Leggiti la documentazione! spero di esserti stato utile, ciao Alessandro
[newbie-it] su raggiunta la dimesione massima del file !?!
Salve, stamattina se provo a dare il comando su in un terminale la shell visualizza il messaggio raggiunta la dimensione massima del file e per avere i privilegi di root devo uscire da kde e loggarmi come root. Con -man su- non sono riuscito a trovare la soluzione..qualcuno può darmi una mano? Grazie max
Re: [newbie-it] modem e masterizzatore
ok grazie! proverò :-))) ciaoo laura - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] modem e masterizzatore Ciao io non riesco ad installare il modem e il masterizzatore sotto mandrake 8, il modem è un v.90 56 kb della motorola SM56 interno masterizzatore invece è un plexter cd w qualcuno di voi ha queste marche mi potete aiutare? se vi serve altri dati più specifici ve li darò. grazie laura Per il masterizzatore non posso proprio aiutarti. se vuoi informazioni sul modem, vai a questo indirizzo http://www.linux-mandrake.it/forum/devices/, mi e' stato detto che alcune volte i modem interni hanno bisogno di particolari driver per funzionare sotto linux (anche se a me sembra strano comunque...) che ti devo sacricare ed usare nella configurazione. c'e' una lista dei modem non supportati e di eventuali driver (ho visto che c'e' anche il forum )? per scaricarti i driver: http://e-www.motorola.com/products/softmodem/support/software.html Leggiti la documentazione! spero di esserti stato utile, ciao Alessandro
[newbie-it] Scheda di rete PCMCIA
Potreste consigliarmi una scheda di rete PCMCIA perfettamente funzionante con Linux (uso Mandrake 8.0) ... vorrei mettere in rete il mio nuovo portatile col mio desktop PC. Grazie Ciao Marco
[newbie-it] INFORMAZIONI
Chiedo gentilmente se qualcusa sa dirmi se mandrake 8 beta2 si può installare su un toshiba cdt 300 grazie anticipatamente
Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 8 e ATI Rage 128
Se mi dai pure qualche indicazione di come fare... te ne sare grato. grazie per la pazienza Saluti Ciro! At 12.14 18/09/2001 +0200, you wrote: ehi posso darti un consiglio, prova a mettere la modalità agp a 2x invece che a 4x ciao DigitalBlasphemy
Re: [newbie-it] INFORMAZIONI
Chiedo gentilmente se qualcusa sa dirmi se mandrake 8 beta2 si può installare su un toshiba cdt 300 Direi di sì, guarda su http://newsletter.toshiba-tro.de/main/ e seleziona OS Machine Compatibility ... Grazie alle info trovate su quel sito ho appena installato con successo (a parte il modem ma sapevo che non era compatibile) Mandrake 8.0 su un Toshiba 1800-100 CDT. Ciao Marco
Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 8 e ATI Rage 128
ehi posso darti un consiglio, prova a mettere la modalità agp a 2x invece che a 4x ciao DigitalBlasphemy
Re: [newbie-it] su raggiunta la dimesione massima del file !?! RISOLTO!
Il 11:04, martedì 18 settembre 2001, hai scritto: Salve, stamattina se provo a dare il comando su in un terminale la shell visualizza il messaggio raggiunta la dimensione massima del file e per avere i privilegi di root devo uscire da kde e loggarmi come root. Con -man su- non sono riuscito a trovare la soluzione..qualcuno può darmi una mano? Grazie max Trovata la soluzione !!! Nella dir: /home/max/.xauth/refcount ci sono tante cartelle quanti sono gli utenti del sistema. Il problema era dovuto alla presenza di grossi files (c.a. 97 M) dal nome unix:0_max ecc (uno per ogni utente) in queste cartelle, eliminati i file è tornato tutto a posto.Ho provato ad aprire i files con kedit e konqueror ma sono andati in crash. Sarebbe bello capire che cosa è successo.. Saluti max
[newbie-it] Schedaaudio ES1969
Salve a tutti: Ho un problemino con la scheda audio: Sono costretto a tenere il volume del microfono a 0 perche' altrimenti il computer comincia a fischiare in modo orribile. (non parliamo del mancato funzionamento del winmodem che ne consegue). I dati sono i seguenti. Ho una: Mandrake 8 il computer e' un Acer Travelmate 730 e la scheda audio e' una Es1969 ecco cosa dice il sistema Fornitore: ESS Technology Modello: ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive Kernel Module: snd-card-es1938 Tipo di Bus:: PCI Eccovi la parte del module.conf che la riguarda Non son io l'autore. Qualcuno dalla mailing list e' stato cosi' gentile da mandarmi questo pezzo gia' sistemato. ___Estratto del modules.conf-- # ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1 alias snd-card-0 snd-card-es1938 # OSS/Free portion alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss post-install snd-card-es1938 modprobe snd-pcm-oss -- Ovviamente evitate di darmi la risposta banale di sostituire snd-card-es1938 con snd-card-es1969 se ci fosse lo avrei fatto da tempo. Viceversa se sapete dove trovare il modulo corrispondente mandatemi l'indirizzo. Ciao a tutti Luigi
[newbie] what is wrong with dependencies
Frankly - I am rather frustrated with the issues of dependencies. Almost each time I try to install an rpm file, or compile a tar.gz, I get a failed/missing dependencies error. I was told that this is just as in Windows in which programs need dlls. This is simply not true. When a Win32 developer prepares a package for publication he includes ALL the dlls needed (at least in 99% of the cases) and the install wizard then checks to see if there is a need to add them to the system or if something more recent is already installed. Now WHY don't rpms come with ALL the dependencies they need? Is it to reduce the size of the packages? But then, would it not be better to define a list of main dependencies which ALL distributions would install on each machine (even if the installation type is not development)? Also - sometimes, a dependency needs another dependency. What for? If the two dependencies are developed by the same people, why don't they immediately package them together. Finally, can I get any missing dependency from sites such as rpmfind.net? Are all dependencies rpm-packaged. I am sorry if these questions sound silly to those of you who are advanced newbies (-: I'm the real newbie-newbie :-) but take it from a 100% committed linux-lover as I have become: this is a problem which does NOT exist in this form in the much-hated Windows world. Any explanations would be welcome, cheers! Linux user 226850 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Accessing my files at home ??
I'm at work today, and realised that I needed a file which is on my machine at home -doh! Today it's ok because I've asked my wife to email me the file. But she's always reluctant to do this, as she's got her hands full with our twin boys. :-) How easy would it be to turn on my home computer, log on to the net (with a modem) and access it from work? At work, I can use ftp etc-with windows. The file I'm after is Staroffice5.2, which shouldn't cause any problems. Would it be a case of ftping to the IP number that was assigned at home when home computer logged on the net? Or is it much more complicated than sending an email? Any advice is gratefully received. Thanks Adam __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] java and mozilla
I know this has been covered before, but I still can't get it to work. Java does not work out of the box for me in L-M 8.0 f2. Every time I go to a site with java I get a java applet error. What do I need to do to get mozilla (or any other browser) to load java enabled pages? -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Text only, UGH!
as far as the localhost comment, DO NOT change it. that is for the loopback or lo interface, and the computer needs it to talk to itself. copy the format on the next line, but change the local.localdomain to whateveris.yourdomain or what ever you call the computer and domain, orlocalhost works good too, but you will want to change the IP number from a 127.x.x.x number to a 192.186.0.x number (these are reserved for small networks with the submask 255.255.255.0, and will not go out into the Internet) when eth0 (the first ethernet connection) is delayed, it maens you ain't got the card setup right. do you have Plug and Pray aware OS set to off in the computer bios? have you tried linuxconf to setup the network? On Tuesday 18 September 2001 00:00, you wrote: Hi all, I am three weeks into using Linux after using only Macintosh for the past 10 years. I had a computer store install Redhat 7.1. This 150 Pentium w/40m Ram 20gb hd should make a good first file server. I don't want to buy a color Video card or color monitor. I have a old monochrome monitor When starting, it informs me eth0 initalization is delayed. everthing else is listed as OK. I tried /ect/hostname in Pico and found the text: saying Do not erase the lines below. It read 127.0.0.1 host_name. Local domain Should I coment this out (#). Or replace it, with my IP and host name ect.? I am concerned about erasing it. *Is this likely to be the reason for delay eth0 initalization I put my info directly under the 127... line and it does not show up anywhere. It is a isa card, I read where autoprobe may malfunction. *Exactly* how does one go about disabiling auto probe for the ethernet card Andrew Have an extra nice Day!, Andrew Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Accessing my files at home ??
I'm at work today, and realised that I needed a file which is on my machine at home -doh! Today it's ok because I've asked my wife to email me the file. But she's always reluctant to do this, as she's got her hands full with our twin boys. :-) How easy would it be to turn on my home computer, log on to the net (with a modem) and access it from work? Considering... You need something that triggers power-up of your computer, boot linux, automatically log in and dial out when that's done. I am not sure if that is something you would want your computer to do in the first place, but that's something else. During boot you could load an FTP server. After that you could ftp to your home machine (IP address indeed) and pull the files you need. Paul Would it be a case of ftping to the IP number that was assigned at home when home computer logged on the net? How would you determine which IP number your machine has after logging on? You could let the machine first send an e-mail to your work with the assigned IP number so you know where to FTP to. Or is it much more complicated than sending an email? Sounds interesting to try and set up. GOod luck Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Accessing my files at home ??
my advice is to run appache on the home computer, set any folders you want to be allowed to get into in the config, and run a connection thru a Dynamic DNS server, so you could log into linxbox.ods.dyn.dns.org (or whom ever you sign up for the service with, you can search google for dynamic dns servers and find a few). that way, you dial in, connect to the dynamic dns server to set the name to yor current dns, and you can go from there and look like you were savy enough to have created AOL if you had the time a few years ago. it really is easy (about one saterday day to learn how, since if you have installed all the toys with Mandrake 8.0 powerpack it will already be installed and waititng for you to setup the configuration. you can then set up a cron job to check the dialin connectiopn and connect to the Dynamic dns server and make sure it is correctly updated. you can also set your PPP conncetion to redial if the signal is dropped, and the cron job will reconncet to the DNS and update automagiclly. I personally think that you might then want to check out PHP-Nuke after you get the server setup and your folders accessable. On Tuesday 18 September 2001 06:40, you wrote: I'm at work today, and realised that I needed a file which is on my machine at home -doh! Today it's ok because I've asked my wife to email me the file. But she's always reluctant to do this, as she's got her hands full with our twin boys. :-) How easy would it be to turn on my home computer, log on to the net (with a modem) and access it from work? At work, I can use ftp etc-with windows. The file I'm after is Staroffice5.2, which shouldn't cause any problems. Would it be a case of ftping to the IP number that was assigned at home when home computer logged on the net? Or is it much more complicated than sending an email? Any advice is gratefully received. Thanks Adam __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Accessing my files at home ??
You could register your machine at any of the dynamic DNS systems available on the internet. Some are even free! If you install the client software and add the startup line into your diald or if-up scripts, the IP you are given is sent to the dyndns server every time a connection is started. Then you would be able to access your home machine with something like... ftp MYNAME.homeip.net where MYNAME is the machine name you registered with the DYNDNS service. Diald may then bring up the link whenever you access the internet locally, or via a cron job that brings it up while you are at the office. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Cripps |Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 6:40 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Accessing my files at home ?? | | |I'm at work today, and realised that I needed a file |which is on my machine at home -doh! Today it's ok |because I've asked my wife to email me the file. But |she's always reluctant to do this, as she's got her |hands full with our twin boys. :-) | |How easy would it be to turn on my home computer, log |on to the net (with a modem) and access it from work? | |At work, I can use ftp etc-with windows. The file I'm |after is Staroffice5.2, which shouldn't cause any |problems. | |Would it be a case of ftping to the IP number that was |assigned at home when home computer logged on the net? | | |Or is it much more complicated than sending an email? | |Any advice is gratefully received. | |Thanks | |Adam | |__ |Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? |Donate cash, emergency relief information |http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Info|rmation/ | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re:[newbie] Video cards
I was looking at the new KyroII cards but I haven't seen much info with regards to compatability, anyone know any different? So, with all the discussion about nVidia cards, what is a good card to run? I am going to upgrade cause my little 4mb ATI Rage doesn't even get tux down the hill. I want a midrange card in the $60 to $100 range. Is there any hope? TIA for any suggestions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Accessing my files at home ??
Sorry, I didn't make it clear that my wife could just log on the net - give me the IP and I'm away - so, in fact, I wouldn't want those things to be automatic. Adam --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my advice is to run appache on the home computer, set any folders you want to be allowed to get into in the config, and run a connection thru a Dynamic DNS server, so you could log into linxbox.ods.dyn.dns.org (or whom ever you sign up for the service with, you can search google for dynamic dns servers and find a few). that way, you dial in, connect to the dynamic dns server to set the name to yor current dns, and you can go from there and look like you were savy enough to have created AOL if you had the time a few years ago. it really is easy (about one saterday day to learn how, since if you have installed all the toys with Mandrake 8.0 powerpack it will already be installed and waititng for you to setup the configuration. you can then set up a cron job to check the dialin connectiopn and connect to the Dynamic dns server and make sure it is correctly updated. you can also set your PPP conncetion to redial if the signal is dropped, and the cron job will reconncet to the DNS and update automagiclly. I personally think that you might then want to check out PHP-Nuke after you get the server setup and your folders accessable. On Tuesday 18 September 2001 06:40, you wrote: I'm at work today, and realised that I needed a file which is on my machine at home -doh! Today it's ok because I've asked my wife to email me the file. But she's always reluctant to do this, as she's got her hands full with our twin boys. :-) How easy would it be to turn on my home computer, log on to the net (with a modem) and access it from work? At work, I can use ftp etc-with windows. The file I'm after is Staroffice5.2, which shouldn't cause any problems. Would it be a case of ftping to the IP number that was assigned at home when home computer logged on the net? Or is it much more complicated than sending an email? Any advice is gratefully received. Thanks Adam __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] java and mozilla
Hello Paul Isaac was very helpful to me in getting that problem solved, and this is what he said (distilled): the command you're looking for is ln. It works as follows: (the #'s are just to signify the root command prompt) # ln [options] sourcename(s) [destination directory] where sourcename(s) is the name of the file(s) you want to create links to (in your case libjavaplugin_oji.so) and destination directory is the directory you want the links to appear in (in my case it was /usr/local/mozilla0.9.3/mozilla/plugins, yours will be pretty similar - just make sure it ends up in /plugins) The option you'll be using will be -s (for symbolic). So, assuming your mozilla directory were located like mine is, the command would be: [ed. note - Both the file to be linked and the folder need to have fully qualified path names, as here shown:] # ln -s /usr/jre1.3.1/plugins/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/local/mozilla0.9.3/mozilla/plugins Your command would only differ depending on where your mozilla folder is. Anyway, after you install it you should use the simple command ls -l [destionation directory] to see that your symbolic link arrived appropriately. The line for the java plugin should start with the letter l to show it is a link. If all seems fine and dandy then try going to someplace that uses java and see if you get the error message. If you do, try logging out and logging back in. He also showed me a shortcut that works if you're using KDE, but this method works regardless, so that's the one I'll pass along. HTH Edmund -Original Message- From: Paul Rodríguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 6:41 AM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] java and mozilla I know this has been covered before, but I still can't get it to work. Java does not work out of the box for me in L-M 8.0 f2. Every time I go to a site with java I get a java applet error. What do I need to do to get mozilla (or any other browser) to load java enabled pages? -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Accessing my files at home ??
Hi, I didn't make it clear that my wife could just log on the net - give me the IP and I'm away - so, in fact, I wouldn't want those things to be automatic. I think the problem comes in more from the fact that once your home machine is up and on the net ANYONE can ftp into your machine!!! This obviously reliese on someone having the IP address and being able to sniff out login details, but my point is that it is not overly secure. My suggestion would be to have an ssh server on your home machine and ssh into it from work. You can then use sftp to grab the files while maintaining the security you get with an ssh tunnel. Basically this would allow you to block just about anything incoming through your firewall (You DO have a firewall, don't you!) and therefore not open yourself up to all those wonderful skiddies out there. I realise this is possibly a little more initial setup, but it makes life a site more secure!!! regards, Steve. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel panics
There was a thread going just last night about the Geforce and what kernels it works with. If it wasn't on this one it was on the expert list. Randy Donohoe - Original Message - From: Marcin Jendrzejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 9:25 AM Subject: [newbie] kernel panics Hey folks, Lately I've been fiddling a lot with compiling the linux kernel 2.4.3 (both the vanilla one from kernel.org and the mandrake-customized version) and with both I seem to be getting lots of kernel panics and oops messages (actually none of the kernels get much past the INIT Loading message). While I don't expect anyone to give me the solution, I'm wondering what sort of factors would go into producing these sorts of errors. The vanilla kernel for 2.4.9 works fine, it's just that it seems that NVIDIA drivers for my geforce2 mx/200 card don't seem to work with 2.4.9 and I want to get it working. So yeah, if anyone could explain to me some possible reasons why I can produce a faulty kernel. Thanks, Marcin Jendrzejewski Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Hello all, We use a bunch of windows programs that I was curious as to whether there are any alternatives to these in the Linux community. The programs I was mostly interested in alternatives are: Adobe Photoshop Adobe Pagemaker Macromedia Dreamweaver Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Asst. Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture 434.982.3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Registered Linux User # 218330 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
on 9/18/01 9:04 AM, Terry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, We use a bunch of windows programs that I was curious as to whether there are any alternatives to these in the Linux community. The programs I was mostly interested in alternatives are: Adobe Photoshop The gimp, which is exceptionally good when you consider it's free. But price aside, it's not as good as photoshop. Adobe Pagemaker None that I know of. Why are you still using pagemaker anyway? :) Macromedia Dreamweaver bluefish isn't too bad. It lacks the macromanagement that dreamweaver has, but for html (and even php/javascript) coding, it's pretty good. I'm starting to like it. Both gimp and bluefish are included with mandrake 8.0, so you may already have them installed or they're easily installed (assuming you have m8.0 of course). For design oriented programs, I use vmware. Which allows you to run a windows session from linux. It's almost as fast as running windows natively. So I do all my illustrator/quark/etc stuff in there. I'm still crossing my fingers that the advent of Mac OSX will cause Adobe/Quark to keep going and bring their apps over to linux as well. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Bastille firewall
How can I know whether my Bastille filewall is working at all. I can't find any process when I do a ps aux that name bastille. Seem to me (through what I see in the interactive setup) that Bastille only block certain service Is there anything similar to ZoneLabs in Window where I can approve or not base on certain application? Thanks, Vinh N. Pham Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bastille firewall
In reply to Vinh's words, written Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:35:39 -0400 Bastille is a frontend to configure iptables. If things are working you can tell by going su and running iptables -L (capital l!) Paul How can I know whether my Bastille filewall is working at all. I can't find any process when I do a ps aux that name bastille. Seem to me (through what I see in the interactive setup) that Bastille only block certain service Is there anything similar to ZoneLabs in Window where I can approve or not base on certain application? Thanks, Vinh N. Pham -- Avoid cliches like the plague http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SNF7.2 and RealPlayer ICQ
I don't know much about SNF, but I do know that in the IP Chains Howto it tells you how to get it working. Check http://www.linuxdoc.org. On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Anders Thoresson wrote: Hi, Having problems using RealPlayer and ICQ (using the built-in client in browser Opera 5.12) I need help configure Single Network Firewall. The question is, simply: How should I set things up in SNF to let RealPlayer- and ICQ-traffic through? I want to have the number of ports open for connections from inside my lan set to an absolute minimum. Another question: Do I have to restart SNF before changes made in the web-interface take place? Rgds, Anders -- Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards
The concern being that unix systems are dynamic, it is what gives them their strength, what makes them powerful and secure. The availability of code allows for the most powerful systems to integrate togther. Providing static binaries make either the system or the driver unusable in a dynamic environment (something all operating systems are moving towards). Providing source code availabillity of nVidia drivers can only open and expand the use of nVidia drivers and hardware, increasing exponentially the ammount of developmental work produced with and for this hardware, which in turn popularizes its use. -Paul Rodríguez On 18 Sep 2001 10:12:06 -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday 17 September 2001 07:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi, I don't know what I am doing different, but I have an nVidia GeForce II on an card made by Asus (I think it is the V7700), and I have ABSOLUTELY no problems with it; Anyways, I was just posting this to let people who are on the market know that the GeForce II DOES work with LM8 (beautifully in fact), The latest nVidia drivers for LM 8.0 were compiled against kernel 2.4.3-20mdk and Xfree86 4.0.2. If you don't change anything they probly will work. They did for me even with XF-4.1.x. Then as I upgraded to newer kernels, XF versions, and objectprelink'd KDE2.2.1, and other upgrades (basically to LM 8.1) they became completely broken. This is one problem with closed source drivers. You never know when even a minor security or bugfix update will break them, much less other upgrades. There is no way for Mandrake to support them because nVidia refuses to share the source with Linux developers. OTOH, they do submit their driver source to M$. Other problems with closed source drivers are security related, and the added dependence on nVidia to provide future updates. If you want to upgrade to 8.1 when it comes out (it's RC1 right now), you'll most likely break the current nVidia drivers. There's also no guarantee, that future nVidia drivers will work with 8.1. They weren't smart enough to use the current LM 8.0 kernel and XF version. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA Admiral Yamamoto: I fear that all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve. =_1000826039-7607-4513 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] different user permissions for 'guest account' query
i want to create a 'guest' account on my second box so that friends who visit can log on and benefit from my cable connection, because i am behind a firewall -snf7.2- i installed both my workstations as -security = low- i don't know how wise that was, therefore i suspect that the permissions on a user account created using 'adduser' will probably be the same as my user permissions and not what i should have in a 'guest' account, not that i distrust my friends, the opposite in fact, my friends would understand perfectly the need to have good security despite the persons involved. my question is (finally you cry!), what permissions should i pay attention to? there are a lot of users and groups on a typical machine, most of which aren't 'people' and the interelationship between then is confusing to me, i want to enable web access, im chat and downloading files so that my friends can put stuff they want onto a cd, am i worrying about nothing, is the fact that someone a 'user' and not root automatically protection enough? bascule Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SQL database for patient information
I'd like to create a simple SQL database and frontend for doctors to store patient information and automate callbacks, backups, and label printing. Of course I would like this to be an open source project. (GPL'd too, as much as possible). Having had no experience with SQL, I'd like to know the groups opinions/experiences to help choose between the different SQL possibilities. (i.e. mySQL, PostgreSQL) But most importantly, I'd like to learn how not to recreate the wheel. You see, I'm sure at least most of the backend work (while maybe not specifically written to store patient information) may already be written for some other purpose. In the end, it's just a simple database like any other, a few simple fields such as name, address, contact and insurance info, and a few user customizable fields (mostly for history). I've already looked at the open source medical software options and didn't find anything that really suited my needs. Where can I find the information I need to make my efforts as efficient as possible? Thanks everybody! -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Nimda virus
I caught the tail end of an FBI warning on NPR today that said the Nimda virus affects all Internet computers. That rubs me the wrong way because, as I read later at CNet, it doesn't affect our penguins (as usual). I think the popular media needs to be more careful the way they report these things. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-7215349.html Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] PS, HMTL and Web page design
I have produced five booklets of 56 to 100 Postscript pages that I would like to place on a website, with the intent that persons could download them, or view them. The pages are heavily formatted (I used Ventura 4.11 in my Windoze days). I'm a total newbie in Web page design. Prior to embarking on another steep learning curve, I wonder if someone might offer some suggestions as to pitfalls I'm certainly going to encounter. I have a few questions that will expose my woeful ignorance: 1. Is there a program that could convert the PS files to HMTL? (Is this a real newbie question, or what!) All my original document files are in .doc Word for Windows 2.0c and StarOffice doesn't recognize this file format. I've since converted everything to sdw files, except of course, the PS files. 2. I've discovered Screem but have yet to use it. Is this a good program to use in creating web-pages? Does it accept PS files? Could you recommend anything better? 3. I would like to give people the option to d/l each booklet in either PS (preferrred) or HMTL format. Each booklet runs anywhere from 1.6MB to 2.2MB. Which (or both) would you suggest? 4. Could you suggest some links that would ease me into this project gracefully? Thanks for any help, Andre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MODEM
Hi, sounds to me like there is probably an auction at eBay selling an ISA USR V.Everything, being sold by a guy named Dean (wink) :P Seriously though, with Win98, pretty much ANY modem will do, and if you want to use the same modem when dual booting with LM8, you definitely do NOT need to spend anywhere NEAR USD$170 - USD$250. Just find ANY decent (i.e. NOT winmodem) well-known (i.e. 3com/USR/etc.) PCI modem (easier time with PCI than with ISA/EISA), many of which you can get for WELL UNDER USD$100 (and if you are looking for used items on eBay, then you can probably find a beaut for approx usd$25). Thats just MY USD$0.02... David Charles On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Dean Morrell wrote: If you have an available ISA slot, check out USRobotics V.Everything at ebay. These are business class modems that sell for US $170 for internal and US $250 for external. They are great modems. At 12:10 9/17/2001 +1200, you wrote: I would appreciate any suggestions as to a suitable modem for a dual boot setup. Using Windows 98 and Mandrake 8. Thank you Ivor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Dean -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property. -Thomas Jefferson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SQL database for patient information
On Tuesday 18 September 2001 16:21, Paul Rodríguez wrote: I'd like to create a simple SQL database and frontend for doctors to store patient information and automate callbacks, backups, and label printing. I haven't tried any of the open source SQL databases but since you have no experience with SQL, go get a nice book on basic Data Modelling. Regardless of which SQL server you use, this is something you must know if you actually want to make a project that's worth a damn. Learn now before you go and invent your own bad habits like I did! Where can I find the information I need to make my efforts as efficient as possible? Good data modelling always leads to less coding and shorter developement/debugging time-- ALWAYS! Just about any introductory book on MySQL or what have you should include at least a chapter on 'Data Modelling' and 'Normailization' rules. If the book your considering doesn't have at least that, it doesn't deserve your money. Good Luck! Richie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KOffice
Hello everyone, Just wondering if anyone here is using KOffice 1.1 in a business environment. Specifically, how well does it get along with MS Word and Excel? I would *really* like to migrate away from StarOffice 5.2, and it looks to me like KOffice is more mature than OpenOffice at this time. Any thoughts or opinions will be valued. Dave PGP signature
RE: [newbie] kernel panics
What's the error message when the Kernel Oops's? Cut and Paste from your /var/log/messages will be good, and you might want to ask on the Expert list too! Steve Flynn NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst * 01603 687386 -Original Message- From: Marcin Jendrzejewski [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] kernel panics Hey folks, Lately I've been fiddling a lot with compiling the linux kernel 2.4.3 (both the vanilla one from kernel.org and the mandrake-customized version) and with both I seem to be getting lots of kernel panics and oops messages (actually none of the kernels get much past the INIT Loading message). While I don't expect anyone to give me the solution, I'm wondering what sort of factors would go into producing these sorts of errors. The vanilla kernel for 2.4.9 works fine, it's just that it seems that NVIDIA drivers for my geforce2 mx/200 card don't seem to work with 2.4.9 and I want to get it working. So yeah, if anyone could explain to me some possible reasons why I can produce a faulty kernel. Thanks, Marcin Jendrzejewski ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Check out Yellow Dog linux. Randy Donohoe - Original Message - From: hp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matt Greer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs Hi folks Some newbie questions. a) Is there Linux software to encode video as good as or better than WindowsMedia for on-demand true streaming? b) Is there Linux software like MediaCleaner Pro to encode video? c) I have a Mac G3 266. Is there a Linux Mandrake version that runs on it? If so - is there a windows emulator that will run on top of Linux(Mac) - so that I could use the WindowsMedia Encoder? - Harry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] samba functionality query
nice one jose, this is exactly what i wanted to hear:-) new question, can a old pentium function as a samba server, and is it okay to make it a firewall as well? i have an old p100 running at home with snf7.2, i could practice with samba on that before going down to the commuity centre and letting loose on our network, bascule The short answer is YES. Samba supports BOTH user Policies and Roving Profiles. Roving profiles basically stores the users desktop and menus on the Samba server itself. Since the winblows client gets it's info/menu desktop from the Samba server this will do what you want. Policies enable you to restrict changes or even access to the limitations you have imposed including; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] what is wrong with dependencies
On Tue, 2001-09-18 at 04:16, Franki wrote: I think two other things would help,. a gui and console tool that does smart tarball installs and updates the rpm database for that app, and one that can get dependencies for you,, (goes to a mandrake update site list...etc etc. or asks for the CD, or both) preferably the same app. Debian has apt-get, which does exactly this. Rpm still doesn't do it, although rpmdrake (front-end to grpmi, which actually does the work) does a decent job of it. But for packages which Mandrake does not create, rpmdrake will do you no good :-( and a self extracting tarball, (sort of like winzips self extracting file,, a new tarball format that can have a shell or perl script wrapper around the actual tarfile that untars and starts the install for you.. (then updates the RPM databse...downloads dependencies etc etc) even if it was 10% bigger then a standard tarball, people would go for it because of the ease of install and removal and smart installing features, [snip] As a matter of fact, I have seen such a beast. Nessus (www.nessus.org) comes in a self-installing shell script. Just download and run nessus.sh (or whatever it was called), and the script will run, which actually unzips and untars the file, then checks dependencies, configures, compiles, and installs. At the beginning, it asks for the root password, so it can complete the install later on. It is very slick. Dave PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Will Ximian install fix Gnome?
The serious problems with gnome seemed to be fixed (I did find still another gnome RPM. Maybe that did it I still can't understand why it was necessary to do it manually, though. --- Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've decided that I like Gnome more than KDE and want to learn and begin using it. But I'm having problems beyond the normal (like getting CD floppy access from the desktop or panel. I won't have to manually monunt/unmount will I?) That's not the problem. When I try to select many of the Gnome features, the computer freezes--completely, I have to turn the power off and on (which I worry about each time). I've found that some of these problems have gone away after I've installed more gnome files from the RPMs on CD-ROM, so that might be the heart of the problem (and also what I would consider a serious bug in the program). But I have installed everything that I can find named gnome and there are still problems. (And shouldn't the initial installation of Gnome from the install CD have worked even without what I've done?) What I've done now is gone to the Ximian signt and downloaded their gnome files (and also gnuCash which I had tried to install earlier without success). I figure I should install -core- first, then perhaps -applets-, -libs-, -utils- and the others I found. Ximian says that it is based on gnome 1.4, and instructions are that it is not necessary to first remove regular gnome installation--that it will automatically upgrade files. My hopes are that whatever files are giving me problems will be replaced and most if not all of my problems solved. But I also seem to remember having read somewhere that installation of Ximian must be on a sound gnome base. Do I need to find and fix my gnome problems before installing Ximian? That's the key question. Sorry to go on so long with this. Anyone know? Just occurred to me, I should ask Ximian, even though this is the free download I'm talking about. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards
On Monday 17 September 2001 07:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi, I don't know what I am doing different, but I have an nVidia GeForce II on an card made by Asus (I think it is the V7700), and I have ABSOLUTELY no problems with it; Anyways, I was just posting this to let people who are on the market know that the GeForce II DOES work with LM8 (beautifully in fact), The latest nVidia drivers for LM 8.0 were compiled against kernel 2.4.3-20mdk and Xfree86 4.0.2. If you don't change anything they probly will work. They did for me even with XF-4.1.x. Then as I upgraded to newer kernels, XF versions, and objectprelink'd KDE2.2.1, and other upgrades (basically to LM 8.1) they became completely broken. This is one problem with closed source drivers. You never know when even a minor security or bugfix update will break them, much less other upgrades. There is no way for Mandrake to support them because nVidia refuses to share the source with Linux developers. OTOH, they do submit their driver source to M$. Other problems with closed source drivers are security related, and the added dependence on nVidia to provide future updates. If you want to upgrade to 8.1 when it comes out (it's RC1 right now), you'll most likely break the current nVidia drivers. There's also no guarantee, that future nVidia drivers will work with 8.1. They weren't smart enough to use the current LM 8.0 kernel and XF version. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA Admiral Yamamoto: I fear that all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Will Ximian install fix Gnome?
I retract my recent self-response to this message, saying all was OK with Gnome. I tried to shutdown and reboot (before beginning my Ximian install) and found that Gnome froze immediately upon loading. I restarted the computer and the same happened again. But the third time, I started as root Gnome (fortunately, I had turned autostart off) and that, as well as KDE, seems to be OK. So, all of my original message below is more or less still true. Thanks. --- Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've decided that I like Gnome more than KDE and want to learn and begin using it. But I'm having problems beyond the normal (like getting CD floppy access from the desktop or panel. I won't have to manually monunt/unmount will I?) That's not the problem. When I try to select many of the Gnome features, the computer freezes--completely, I have to turn the power off and on (which I worry about each time). I've found that some of these problems have gone away after I've installed more gnome files from the RPMs on CD-ROM, so that might be the heart of the problem (and also what I would consider a serious bug in the program). But I have installed everything that I can find named gnome and there are still problems. (And shouldn't the initial installation of Gnome from the install CD have worked even without what I've done?) What I've done now is gone to the Ximian signt and downloaded their gnome files (and also gnuCash which I had tried to install earlier without success). I figure I should install -core- first, then perhaps -applets-, -libs-, -utils- and the others I found. Ximian says that it is based on gnome 1.4, and instructions are that it is not necessary to first remove regular gnome installation--that it will automatically upgrade files. My hopes are that whatever files are giving me problems will be replaced and most if not all of my problems solved. But I also seem to remember having read somewhere that installation of Ximian must be on a sound gnome base. Do I need to find and fix my gnome problems before installing Ximian? That's the key question. Sorry to go on so long with this. Anyone know? Just occurred to me, I should ask Ximian, even though this is the free download I'm talking about. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] freezes rendering 3d with my nVidia drivers
Ok, I've installed both the tar balls and later the src rpms of the latest nVidia drivers. I am running Mandrake 8.0 freq 2. I still get the same problem. Computer starts successfully (with nVidia logo). Launching a 3d accelerated program (e.g. gears or tuxracer) freezes the computer. I cannot even log out the a command line or restart x. -Paul Rodríguez On 16 Sep 2001 11:23:31 -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday 16 September 2001 06:27 am, Paul Rodríguez escribió: Did the earlier versions supprt 3d acceleration? I'm concerned about using the rpms. I was told that using them would make my problem easier to troubleshoot. However, if they were compiled on a different kernel version than the one I am using (almost certyainly since I am using Freq 2), can this cause me any probelms? This won't change my kernel will it? Many people have the mistaken belief that tarballs are always source. The nVidia tarballs are nothin more than archive (.tar), compressed (.gz) wrappers around secret, closed source, nVidia binaries. The src.rpm's are the same, but add in the increased ability to easily remove them when/if the nVidia closed binaries break your system. Which they will, sooner or later. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA Admiral Yamamoto: I fear that all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve. =_1000657534-7607-4076 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Console mode
Steve Flynn wrote: You can edit the /etc/issue* files - The one which has all of the escape codes in it, draws the penguin. Takes me back to my BBS days with ANSI graphics and whatnot! Actually, has anyone ever bothered to come up with a better penguin or other nice little ansi graphic for the console welcome screen? I feel a little messing about coming over me! :-) Steve Flynn NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst * 01603 687386 I've found the ect/issue file but i don't understand its symbols meaning and most of all i'm not able to change it ( it seems that it is newly recreated each time i boot). Any suggestion? Ragno The Spider Stefano. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] java and mozilla
Like you I could not get Mozilla to work with Java. It kept insisting Java was not enabled. Went through the process of down loading java, and then failing again. Nor can I persuade Star Office Java is actually installed. Netscape 4.77 works with Java, but it sucks. So now I use Opera 5.05TP which works just great. Opera is the fastest browser for rendering pages I have seen. (Much faster than Konquerer)The Linux version is not as good as the Windoze one (some neat features have been left out), but at least it works with Java. The downside is the free version has an advertising banner which annoys some people. If you want it go to www.opera.com Make sure you get 5.05TP and not 5.0 which has no Java support. There is a page of instructions telling you how to set up the Java VM at http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/ Derek :-) On Tuesday 18 September 2001 06:41, you wrote: I know this has been covered before, but I still can't get it to work. Java does not work out of the box for me in L-M 8.0 f2. Every time I go to a site with java I get a java applet error. What do I need to do to get mozilla (or any other browser) to load java enabled pages? -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Digital Cameras
All; I just thought I'd pass this along. Over the weekend I picked up the new Olympus S4040 Digital Camera (impressive little camera!). If any one is interested in these cameras, rest assured, it worked with Linux right out of the box! I just hooked it up to the USB, and mounted the device (/dev/sda1 in my case). It was identified as a SCSI emulated mass storage device. Very very simple to hook up use. So even though it's not on the hardware compatability list, it does work. BTW: I'm running MDK 8.0, on an intel box. Now I just need to get gphoto to recognize it. Not too much luck there, but I really don't care too much, gimp will do. Anyway, just thought I'd pass that along. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] quick help with pine and selecting not working
are you sure it is not copied to the clipboard, but whebn you mouse click the other window you remove the check mark for the item you wanted to paste? it ain't winders, you gots lots more than just the last copy in the klipper buffer. once it is copied you can go back to it. On Tuesday 18 September 2001 10:22, you wrote: Greetings all, troubled am I, but that will start later. I have a quick question about terminal stuff: PINE, when running, somehow disallows select of it's text, which puts a big crimp in my use of GClipper, something which I've become pretty reliant on. I'm a copy-paste kinda guy. How does PINE do this, and how can enable the ability to SELECT in pine? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel panics
when you compile do you use make mrproper?On Tuesday 18 September 2001 09:25, you wrote: Hey folks, Lately I've been fiddling a lot with compiling the linux kernel 2.4.3 (both the vanilla one from kernel.org and the mandrake-customized version) and with both I seem to be getting lots of kernel panics and oops messages (actually none of the kernels get much past the INIT Loading message). While I don't expect anyone to give me the solution, I'm wondering what sort of factors would go into producing these sorts of errors. The vanilla kernel for 2.4.9 works fine, it's just that it seems that NVIDIA drivers for my geforce2 mx/200 card don't seem to work with 2.4.9 and I want to get it working. So yeah, if anyone could explain to me some possible reasons why I can produce a faulty kernel. Thanks, Marcin Jendrzejewski Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] freezes rendering 3d with my nVidia drivers
I hate to say it but I had the same problem and with the exception of Chromium have never been able to play an GL based games or run any of the mesa demos without a total lock-up. I even corresponded directly with Nvidia for about two weeks trying everything to get them to work and it was all for nothing. My card is PCI perhaps that has something to do with it. Nvidia never said yes, no or possibly with regards to the fact of the card being PCI. Good luck, John At 03:42 PM 9/18/01 -0400, you wrote: Ok, I've installed both the tar balls and later the src rpms of the latest nVidia drivers. I am running Mandrake 8.0 freq 2. I still get the same problem. Computer starts successfully (with nVidia logo). Launching a 3d accelerated program (e.g. gears or tuxracer) freezes the computer. I cannot even log out the a command line or restart x. -Paul Rodríguez On 16 Sep 2001 11:23:31 -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday 16 September 2001 06:27 am, Paul Rodríguez escribió: Did the earlier versions supprt 3d acceleration? I'm concerned about using the rpms. I was told that using them would make my problem easier to troubleshoot. However, if they were compiled on a different kernel version than the one I am using (almost certyainly since I am using Freq 2), can this cause me any probelms? This won't change my kernel will it? Many people have the mistaken belief that tarballs are always source. The nVidia tarballs are nothin more than archive (.tar), compressed (.gz) wrappers around secret, closed source, nVidia binaries. The src.rpm's are the same, but add in the increased ability to easily remove them when/if the nVidia closed binaries break your system. Which they will, sooner or later. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA Admiral Yamamoto: I fear that all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve. =_1000657534-7607-4076 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Hi, I quite often work with Photoshop (have been for years), and can tell you that a LOT of graphics/printing/publishing professionals use Photoshop. As for Cyan Magenta Yello blacK (CMYK) it is 4 colour seperation process used for making films that are used when printing (not bubble jet/laser jet printing, but printing press printing) high quality images/colour layouts for magazines, colour papers, lithographic reproductions of art, etc. NO professional in ANY publishing/graphics field would EVER use RGB when making films for pre-press/production. RGB (Red Green Black) has major limits pertaining to decent reproduction of the colour spectrum. Anyways, this is just to let you know, that CMYK is NOT just something that never is needed; like I said before, it is the ONLY way to go when producing any works (that are to be taken seriously by professionals). David Charles On 18 Sep 2001, Paul [ISO-8859-1] Rodríguez wrote: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
On Tuesday 18 September 2001 23:15, you wrote: Hi, NO professional in ANY publishing/graphics field would EVER use RGB when making films for pre-press/production. RGB (Red Green Black) has major limits pertaining to decent reproduction of the colour spectrum. rgb is red green blue. It has a larger color spectrum than cmyk actually. rgb is used right up to the point the file is needed for press, then is convereted to cmyk typically. The thing is it's an additive color system (add red+green+blue and get white). Where as cmy(k) is a subtractive color system (add cyan+magenta+yellow to get black. Or conversly, start with black and remove cyan, magenta and yellow and you end up with white). Inks are always subtractive, which is why the cmyk system is used. Anyways, this is just to let you know, that CMYK is NOT just something that never is needed; like I said before, it is the ONLY way to go when producing any works (that are to be taken seriously by professionals). I use cmyk every day. Basically everything that's printed (from gorgeous art books to the weekend coupon flyer in your newspaper) relies on cmyk and/or other ink systems. rgb is reserved for things that will never leave a digital medium, and some specialty photographic processes. The gimp lacks support for anything subtractive as far as I can tell, which is more than just cmyk. So until/if that happens, it can't compete with the majority of the stranglehold that photoshop has. Adobe is the microsoft of the design world, afterall :) But don't get me wrong, I think the gimp is a great program. Matt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] what is wrong with dependencies
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:16:09 +0800, Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand this issue and I comiserate Think about this though, KDE would have been much harder to write (and one hell of alot bigger most likely),, had it not used the QT libs, they conntain all the code for the GUI generating and numerous other things.. The benefits of using libs are at least two fold, if you have many apps using the same libs, they need only be loaded into memory once for all of them, which speeds things up greatly. They also provide for a more unified look between apps, (like KDE apps for example) Ditto with Gnome and its libs and nearly every other package.. If all packages had all the libs they required in them, then Mandrake would probably come on 8 CD's for just the basics and one distro would have hundreds of copies of the same libs in different RPM's... I personally think that they should offer full dependencies versions of RPM's for the newbies for download on the web... but it wouldn't be productive on the CD's to do it.. I believe you are referring to statically-linked RPMs. The problem with these is that, as the name suggests, they are static. For example, the statically-linked version of Opera will not benefit from upgrading QT, whilst dynamically-linked apps will. Open-source development is far more dependency-based, and so upgrading a lib like QT or GTK can benefit all apps that rely on them. I think two other things would help,. a gui and console tool that does smart tarball installs and updates the rpm database for that app, and one that can get dependencies for you,, (goes to a mandrake update site list...etc etc. or asks for the CD, or both) preferably the same app. Checkinstall is a console tool that does smart tarball installs and updates the rpm database for that app. Apt is an app that can get dependencies for you,, (goes to a mandrake update site list...etc etc. or asks for the CD, or both). Urpmi is a similar app, designed specifically for Mandrake. It has a GUI frontend: Software Manager (AKA RPMdrake). and a self extracting tarball, (sort of like winzips self extracting file,, a new tarball format that can have a shell or perl script wrapper around the actual tarfile that untars and starts the install for you.. (then updates the RPM databse...downloads dependencies etc etc) even if it was 10% bigger then a standard tarball, people would go for it because of the ease of install and removal and smart installing features, you could even make an app that keeps a updatable database of files that have a certain extension, like .exec and it runs suid or something and makes the file executable and runs the app if its clicked, (so that newbies don't have to learn chmod straight away) it would be potentially a security risk, but if the program is smart enough, it could be capable of foreseeing possible problems and risks, and then avoiding them...and it could prompt and warn for packages not listed in its database. its no more dangerous then downloading windows setup apps.. (although thats not saying much really is it?? ) No, it isn't. And this is why it isn't done. Newbies generally know nothing about security, so it is best to give them as little opportunity as possible to compromise their system's security. They would make a difference me thinks... and the latter one would bring us closer to the day where we are more powerful (compiling as opposed to installing binaries) and yet as easy to install... I think that would go along way to helping the newies issues.. (and sometimes the rest of us too.) Also, Mandrake should consider a Prefab lib section, (if selected during install, default would be on unless there are space issues) of as many of the common libs as possible,,, that way, even if they didn't get used, most people would be willing to put up with an extra 50 or 100MB of libs on their hard drive if it meant that 98% of lib dependencies never happend again.. This is already done to some degree, but not enough I think.. anyone with a 4 gig or above hard disk could put up with that,, (and like I said, make it install option.) Many newbies just do a full install. With today's huge hard drives, a 2GB installation is not much at all. If the entire first CD is installed, most dependencies should be taken care of. If a newbie uses a tool like Software Manager to install apps, they will not have to bother with dependencies at all. just some thoughts.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrei Raevsky Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2001 3:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] what is wrong with dependencies Frankly - I am rather frustrated with the issues of dependencies. Almost each time I try to install an rpm file, or compile a tar.gz, I get a failed/missing dependencies error. I was told that this is just as in Windows
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:04:06 -0400, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, We use a bunch of windows programs that I was curious as to whether there are any alternatives to these in the Linux community. The programs I was mostly interested in alternatives are: Adobe Photoshop That's easy: The GIMP. It is very much the equal of Adobe Photoshop, and in some ways (like scripting) it surpasses it. It's only real draback is that it doesn't have a CYMK palette (for legal reasons). Adobe Pagemaker This is more difficult. You can try an advanced word processor, like StarOffice (StarOffice 6.0 is set to hit beta next month). Kword, a simple word processor, shares much in common with DTP apps. Macromedia Dreamweaver A real blind spot for GNU/Linux. Good HTML editors abound (like SCREEM, Bluefish and Quanta+), but there are few WYSIWYG editors. The best at present are Netscape/Mozilla Composer, Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/) and IBM Homepage Builder (http://www-4.ibm.com/software/webservers/hpbuilder/linux/index.html). Of these, IBM Homepage Builder has by far the most features, but it costs money and it is a port from Windows (using Winelib). A 60-day trial version is available for download. Once again, StarOffice can also be used as an HTML editor. From my experience, it has better HTML support than MS Word. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Accessing my files at home ??
If you know the IP address, you should be able to SSH into the machine. Of course, you need an SSH daemon running. On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 04:38:47 -0700 (PDT), Adam Cripps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I didn't make it clear that my wife could just log on the net - give me the IP and I'm away - so, in fact, I wouldn't want those things to be automatic. Adam --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my advice is to run appache on the home computer, set any folders you want to be allowed to get into in the config, and run a connection thru a Dynamic DNS server, so you could log into linxbox.ods.dyn.dns.org (or whom ever you sign up for the service with, you can search google for dynamic dns servers and find a few). that way, you dial in, connect to the dynamic dns server to set the name to yor current dns, and you can go from there and look like you were savy enough to have created AOL if you had the time a few years ago. it really is easy (about one saterday day to learn how, since if you have installed all the toys with Mandrake 8.0 powerpack it will already be installed and waititng for you to setup the configuration. you can then set up a cron job to check the dialin connectiopn and connect to the Dynamic dns server and make sure it is correctly updated. you can also set your PPP conncetion to redial if the signal is dropped, and the cron job will reconncet to the DNS and update automagiclly. I personally think that you might then want to check out PHP-Nuke after you get the server setup and your folders accessable. On Tuesday 18 September 2001 06:40, you wrote: I'm at work today, and realised that I needed a file which is on my machine at home -doh! Today it's ok because I've asked my wife to email me the file. But she's always reluctant to do this, as she's got her hands full with our twin boys. :-) How easy would it be to turn on my home computer, log on to the net (with a modem) and access it from work? At work, I can use ftp etc-with windows. The file I'm after is Staroffice5.2, which shouldn't cause any problems. Would it be a case of ftping to the IP number that was assigned at home when home computer logged on the net? Or is it much more complicated than sending an email? Any advice is gratefully received. Thanks Adam __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] update time over internet
The system time is set to the hardware clock on bootup. Over time, the system and hardware clock fall out of sync, and neither of them are very accurate as is. This is why you should use both the rdate and hwclock commands relatively often (maybe about once a day) to keep them _both_ in sync with a NTP server. On 17 Sep 2001 10:48:51 -0400, Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems as though the hardware clock is set correctly (doesn't lose its time). The system clock stays off even after reboot, though. Is there a command to set the system time to the hardware clock? -Paul Rodríguez On 18 Sep 2001 00:03:06 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: You have two clocks. The first is your hardware clock, which is run from a battery on your motherboard (and hence runs even when your machine is off). The second is the system clock, which is set from the hardware clock at bootup. In the command rdate -s clock-1.cs.cmu.edu synchronises the system clock to the clock on the clock-1.cs.cmu.edu server. Since this is only a runtime clock (and so is lost at shutdown), you need to set the hardware clock as well. This is what hwclock --systohc does. The allows you to run two commands on the same line, but only runs the second command if the first has completed without error. On 17 Sep 2001 09:16:24 -0400, Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does hwclock --systohc do? -Paul Rodríguez On 17 Sep 2001 01:49:44 -0500, Bill R wrote: This is what I use. Im in the central standard time. rdate -s clock-1.cs.cmu.edu hwclock --systohc On Sunday 16 September 2001 07:34 pm, you wrote: Hi, I read somewhare about setting up a recurring program to update my system time by checking the time on internet time servers. My system clock goes out of sync with the world's clocks after it wakes up from suspend (laptop), I need a program to reset the time after wake up. I seem to recall something about a program (i believe it was called) rdate. Anybody know how to do this? -Paul Rodríguez -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] suid icon on desktop
That's the way it is set up now. I wanted an icon to reset the network status in case the connection fails (allways a possibillity) without having to restart the computer. -Paul Rodríguez On 18 Sep 2001 01:24:03 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Have you considered having the system automatically connect to the ADSL network at startup? This can be done by adding the relevant lines to your /etc/rc.d/rc.local file. On 17 Sep 2001 10:57:35 -0400, Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand the security risk, that's why I would like to find a way to give root functionality for just one program. I am particularly interested in this for my grandmother's machine. I want it operable with as little computer knowledge as necessary. I just want one icon that resets the DSL connection. For example, a little shell script that does: adsl-stop wait 2 secs adsl-start retry if fails. Right now I have her DSL connection to go up on startup. And I don't want to worry her with passwords or logins. -Paul Rodríguez On 18 Sep 2001 00:03:13 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 17 Sep 2001 09:28:57 -0400, Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way I can set certain icons on a user's desktop that can can run a program as root? For example, for a system I am building for my mom, and icon that sets system time, or resets the dsl connection? -Paul Rodríguez Giving a user direct access to root functionality is a major security risk, and is not recommended. You can, however, have an icon query the user for a root password when it is activated. In the link properties, place kdesu -c before the command you wish to run as root. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Re: [newbie] PS, HMTL and Web page design
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:49:34 -0400, Andre Dubuc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have produced five booklets of 56 to 100 Postscript pages that I would like to place on a website, with the intent that persons could download them, or view them. The pages are heavily formatted (I used Ventura 4.11 in my Windoze days). I'm a total newbie in Web page design. Prior to embarking on another steep learning curve, I wonder if someone might offer some suggestions as to pitfalls I'm certainly going to encounter. I have a few questions that will expose my woeful ignorance: 1. Is there a program that could convert the PS files to HMTL? (Is this a real newbie question, or what!) All my original document files are in .doc Word for Windows 2.0c and StarOffice doesn't recognize this file format. I've since converted everything to sdw files, except of course, the PS files. At a terminal, type man xxx, where xxx is one of: ps2ascii ps2frag ps2pdfps2pdf13 ps2pk ps2epsi ps2lwxl ps2pdf12 ps2pdfwr ps2ps Most notably, you can convert PS to ASCII (plain text) and PS to PDF (thanks to Free Software, you don't have to pay Adobe $$$ to make PDF files!). Converting PS to ASCII will allow you to import the output into a word processor or HTML editor for editing and embellishment. 2. I've discovered Screem but have yet to use it. Is this a good program to use in creating web-pages? Does it accept PS files? Could you recommend anything better? Screem is good, but it doesn't accept PS files (neither do other editors). You should also try Bluefish and Quanta+. Also, take a look at Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/). 3. I would like to give people the option to d/l each booklet in either PS (preferrred) or HMTL format. Each booklet runs anywhere from 1.6MB to 2.2MB. Which (or both) would you suggest? Here's what I would do: 1. Use ps2ascii to convert each PS booklet to plain text. 2. Use a word processor or HTML editor to turn the ASCII text into a HTML page. 3. Either use ps2pdf to turn the original PS files into PDFs, or 'print' the HTML pages to PS files (most apps can do this) and then use ps2pdf on those. The latter should ensure that both the HTML and PDF files look the same. 4. Could you suggest some links that would ease me into this project gracefully? Everything I mentioned is included in Mandrake (except Amaya). No other links are necessary :-) Thanks for any help, Andre -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gnome CD-ROM floppy access
Make sure that you have either Nautilus or GMC configured to manage your desktop. On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:52:08 -0400, Charles A. Punch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to open File Manager in Super User , then drag drop onto the desktop. Works fine from the desktop. I would like to get it onto my panel, but every way I try to add it to the panel just gives me a dead icon. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 O Lord, grant that we may always be right, for Thou knowest we will never change our minds. etharp wrote: ehh..just guessing right now but..right click and select new, link, disks. On Tuesday 18 September 2001 19:13, you wrote: Bigger problems and qustions aside for the moment, I've decided that I prefer Gnome oveer KDE, but am unhappy that there are no CD-ROM and floppy icons on the desktop (or the panel). Gnome help says that I can fix that by right-clicking on desktop and then clicking Disks. But the choices that my right-click bring up do include any such. How do I get quick and easy access to these drives in Gnome? Thanks. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:01:45 +, hp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks Some newbie questions. a) Is there Linux software to encode video as good as or better than WindowsMedia for on-demand true streaming? Try these: http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/ http://www.emulinks.de/divx/ b) Is there Linux software like MediaCleaner Pro to encode video? Sorry, I can't help there (I've never heard of MediaCleaner Pro :-) ) c) I have a Mac G3 266. Is there a Linux Mandrake version that runs on it? If so - is there a windows emulator that will run on top of Linux(Mac) - so that I could use the WindowsMedia Encoder? There is a PPC version of Mandrake. Look for details at http://www.linux-mandrake.com. I don't think there are any Windows emulators, though. - Harry -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Re: [newbie] Will Ximian install fix Gnome?
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:49:59 -0700 (PDT), Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I retract my recent self-response to this message, saying all was OK with Gnome. I tried to shutdown and reboot (before beginning my Ximian install) and found that Gnome froze immediately upon loading. I restarted the computer and the same happened again. But the third time, I started as root Gnome (fortunately, I had turned autostart off) and that, as well as KDE, seems to be OK. So, all of my original message below is more or less still true. Thanks. --- Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've decided that I like Gnome more than KDE and want to learn and begin using it. But I'm having problems beyond the normal (like getting CD floppy access from the desktop or panel. I won't have to manually monunt/unmount will I?) Supermount makes using removable media totally transparent. There is no need to mount or unmount media. Check your /etc/fstab to see if you have supermount configured for your removable drives. That's not the problem. When I try to select many of the Gnome features, the computer freezes--completely, I have to turn the power off and on (which I worry about each time). I've found that some of these problems have gone away after I've installed more gnome files from the RPMs on CD-ROM, so that might be the heart of the problem (and also what I would consider a serious bug in the program). But I have installed everything that I can find named gnome and there are still problems. (And shouldn't the initial installation of Gnome from the install CD have worked even without what I've done?) What I've done now is gone to the Ximian signt and downloaded their gnome files (and also gnuCash which I had tried to install earlier without success). I figure I should install -core- first, then perhaps -applets-, -libs-, -utils- and the others I found. Ximian says that it is based on gnome 1.4, and instructions are that it is not necessary to first remove regular gnome installation--that it will automatically upgrade files. My hopes are that whatever files are giving me problems will be replaced and most if not all of my problems solved. But I also seem to remember having read somewhere that installation of Ximian must be on a sound gnome base. Do I need to find and fix my gnome problems before installing Ximian? That's the key question. Sorry to go on so long with this. Anyone know? Just occurred to me, I should ask Ximian, even though this is the free download I'm talking about. Firstly, try renaming or moving your ~/.gnome directory. This will force GNOME to regenerate it the next time it loads. It wouldn't hurt to try Ximian GNOME. Download the installer and use that to install the packages (it's easier than installing manually). Also, remember that Mandrake 8.1 is just around the corner. If you instal Mandrake 8.1, do a fresh installation, not an upgrade. If those don't work, you may have a hardware problem. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital Cameras
Upgrade to the latest version of Gphoto. Installing Ximian GNOME is a good way to do this. On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:30:03 -0400, GonzalixLeDruide [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Creative Web-Cam, but I don't know how to use it on Linux. Mine is LM 7.2 Anybody could help me ? Thanks G le D --- Ric Tibbetts escribió: All; I just thought I'd pass this along. Over the weekend I picked up the new Olympus S4040 Digital Camera (impressive little camera!). If any one is interested in these cameras, rest assured, it worked with Linux right out of the box! I just hooked it up to the USB, and mounted the device (/dev/sda1 in my case). It was identified as a SCSI emulated mass storage device. Very very simple to hook up use. So even though it's not on the hardware compatability list, it does work. BTW: I'm running MDK 8.0, on an intel box. Now I just need to get gphoto to recognize it. Not too much luck there, but I really don't care too much, gimp will do. Anyway, just thought I'd pass that along. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Internet connection sharing with Alcatel SpeedTouch USB
Has anyone managed to use an Alcatel SpeedTouch USB ADSL modem as a shared internet connection for several machines? If so, your ideas would be very welcome. Thanks, Chris SW === Chris Slater-Walker BA(Hons) CCNP CCDA MCSE Cisco, Windows NT, Linux, Samba, DNS French German Spoken === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.slater-walker.net/ === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] what is wrong with dependencies
Hi, I have a related question; is there no uninstall (not talking about rpms)? A lot of the apps I have installed (./configure;make;make install) have a make uninstall, but that means that you have to untar/gunzip the package again if/when you want to uninstall it; Has there ever been any thoughts on having some kind of flat file/db that stores all of a program's associated files (and if one/many of those files was shared/dl, then kept track of how many apps are associated with them), for the eventuality that someone decides they want to remove the app, and all traces? If there is, where/what is it? and if there isn't, is this not something that would be beneficial for system maintenace? i.e. if you end up removing an app, that when untarred/gunzipped took up 50MB (for example), but are only able to find (for sure) 35-40MB of that app's associated files, and you do this several times (which is typical/reasonable IMO), then you are wasting a LOT of hd space over time, and quite possible causing future dependency issues/conflicts. If there is NOT such an utility, and enough of the distros would be interested or the group that controls the RPM spec, I would be very willing/happy to start coding such an app in perl (or C, but for this, I would think perl is more suited); (n.b. I have NO idea if it would have to have anything to do with the distros/RPM group, so if anyone knows what would be the best way of going about it, please let me know). Thanks, David Charles On 18 Sep 2001, Dave Sherman wrote: On Tue, 2001-09-18 at 04:16, Franki wrote: I think two other things would help,. a gui and console tool that does smart tarball installs and updates the rpm database for that app, and one that can get dependencies for you,, (goes to a mandrake update site list...etc etc. or asks for the CD, or both) preferably the same app. Debian has apt-get, which does exactly this. Rpm still doesn't do it, although rpmdrake (front-end to grpmi, which actually does the work) does a decent job of it. But for packages which Mandrake does not create, rpmdrake will do you no good :-( and a self extracting tarball, (sort of like winzips self extracting file,, a new tarball format that can have a shell or perl script wrapper around the actual tarfile that untars and starts the install for you.. (then updates the RPM databse...downloads dependencies etc etc) even if it was 10% bigger then a standard tarball, people would go for it because of the ease of install and removal and smart installing features, [snip] As a matter of fact, I have seen such a beast. Nessus (www.nessus.org) comes in a self-installing shell script. Just download and run nessus.sh (or whatever it was called), and the script will run, which actually unzips and untars the file, then checks dependencies, configures, compiles, and installs. At the beginning, it asks for the root password, so it can complete the install later on. It is very slick. Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
