Re: [newbie-it] mi e' morto Linux
On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Arwan wrote: Stavo smanettando e facendo esperimanti... e ho grippato tutto. Per vedere se riuscivo a ridimensionare un gruppo di jpg con un'unica operazione, ho lanciato il comando per aprirle (con Gimp). Ovviamente, non ho fatto la prova con due-tre file (mannaggia!) ma con un centinaio... il disco fisso si e' riempito, ho ricevuto una serie di messaggi di errore, ho fatto il loguot e, nel rientrare, mi ha seganlato che lo spazio e' insufficiente. Dopo il reboot, invece, nessun segno di vita. E ora? (Mike non ridere) Reinstallo??? Direi di no. Entra in rescue mode e dai un occiata in giro. L'ultima operazione che hai fatto deve avere riempito una qualche directory del disco e cosi' adesso non puoi fare nessuna operazione perche' i vari processi non possono scrivere i files temporanei che gli servono. Presumibilmente e' una directori in /var/spool/ oppure la directory in cui doveva venire fuori l'output. Una volta pulito un pochino entri e poi pulisci cio' che c'e' da pulire. Ciao Luigi -- Not all who wander are lost (Tolkien) Luigi De Pascale: Indirizzo: Dipartimento di Matematica Applicata U.Dini Via Bonanno Pisano 25/B, 56126 Pisa, ITALY Tel.: +39/050/844745 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: R: [newbie-it] I: VIRUS ALERT - W32/Fbound.c@MM
Di Fresco Marco wrote: OK, per questa volta ti perdoniamo. La prossima volta, disinstallazione di Linux sulla pubblica piazza e condanna a due mesi di uso esclusivo di Windows 95! ;) Ehi, piano! Questo va contro i diritti civili di base di ogni essere umano! :-) Per il momento ti condanniamo a patchare il tuo GuardaFuoriEspresso italianizzato che ha la pessima abitudine di tradurre Re: in R: :-( Questo comporta che chiunque abbia un mailer standard (compreso l'Outlook originale o in altre lingue) si ritrovi tutti i thread scombinati e subject del tipo Re: R: Re: R: ... :-( ciao, Andrea
[newbie-it] fuso...orario
Da quando ho installato la MDK ho un curioso inconveniente ho orari differernti nei due OS (winz9x e MDK8.1) installati nel pc...corregendone uno al reboot con l'altro mi si sballa l'altrola differenza tra i due è di un ora esatta. Ho provato a modificare l'orario anche dal bios,ma non ha avuto efetto. Avete qualche idea su come risolvere la cosa? grazie gia' da ora Ciao , Tom
Re: [newbie-it] permessi di r/w
SkyHeart wrote: Ciao a tutti, vorrei permettere ad un utente pippo di leggere e scrivere sulle partizioni occupate da windows (mentre ora solo root legge e scrive ed agli altri utenti è permesso solo leggere). Immagino di dover agire su /etc/fstab ma non saprei come. Grazie in /etc/fstab c'e` una riga dedicata alla partizione win. Tra le opzioni (auto,defualts,...) aggiungi umask=000 (senza virgolette). Ogni cifra corrisponde ai permessi che _togli_ rispettivamente al proprietario(root che lo monta al boot), al gruppo e agli altri. I valori base sono: read(4), write (2), execute (1) Un 7(4+2+1) corrisponde a toglierli tutti, un 3(2+1) toglie scrittura ed esecuzione,, uno 0 lascia tutti i permessi. Per maggiori dettagli vedi man umask e man chmod, stando attento che funzionano in modo opposto: uno toglie i permessi, l'altro li concede. umask=000 equivale grosso modo a chmod 777 ;) ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake in crisi!?
Ho scritto giorni fa alla Mand e dicono no, per ora non sono attrezzati per altre forme di pagamento. p.s. Io avevo trovato il powerpack 8.1 alla vobis. Non so se tutti i negozi della catena lo vendano. Asgro][ wrote: Io sono pienamente convinto di voler acquistare il power pack della mandrake(aspetto la 8.2 xò) ma non saprei come fare...xkè dal sito della mandrake è possibile acquistare di tutto(che carine le tazzine!!! :) ma solo con carta di credito...è possibile fare pagamenti con conto corrente postale??? Se si come. Sosteniamo tutti insieme questa società che merita di proseguire il suo lavoro, e noi meritiamo di usufruire di un così eccezionale prodotto!!
Re: [newbie-it] cd audio su mandrake 8.1
Ho avuto lo stesso problema. La prima cosa che dovresti verificare è se hai il cavetto analogioco audio che collega il lettore alla scheda audio o alla mother se hai audio built-in. Linux normalmente non legge i cd audio tramite l'interfaccia digitale. Oppure, sulla distribuzione 8.1 c'è xmms col suo plugin xmms-cdread che legge i cd audio attraverso il cavo digitale. Il mio sistema aveva installato automaticamente xmms ma ho dovuto richiedere in un secondo tempo l'istallazione di xmms-cdread. Spero che sia utile.Paolo Brusasco. SkyHeart wrote: Ciao a tutti, sulla mia mandrake 8.1 non riesco ad ascoltare i cd ausio mentre i cd rom vengono montati e letti senza problemi. Premetto che non ho tentato di montare i cd audio ma li ho semplicemente inseriti e ho tentato di leggerli con il cd player di gnome o con il programma play da console. Mi viene restituito un messaggio d'errore che dice che il device non e esiste o che nn riesce a trovarlo o che non ho i permessi necessari. Per quanto riguarda i permessi non penso sia quello il problema poichè ho provato a farlo da root ed il risultato è lo stesso. Ciao a tutti e grazie. SkyHeart
[newbie-it] konqueror-netscape-mozilla-galeon
Scusate se posto su un argomento gia trattatoma nelle precedenti mail non avevo capito granche. In tutti i browsers elencati mancano i plugin per java e flash , giusto? a me interessa averne uno che funzioni pienamente , in modo da poter abbandonare definitivamente Winzow. Quale browser mi consigliate di ottimizare? o tutti i brows.. si rifanno a netscape? poco fa cercavo di scaricare un plugin per java , ma avendo un modem da 33,6 funzionante sotto linux la cosa mi è risultatat un po' lunga (difatti dopo 45 minuti di dowload mi è caduta la inea e ho salutato il plugin) qualcuno mi sa indicare un link per java e/o flash dalle dimensioni umane? Ciao , Tom
Re: [newbie-it] cd audio su mandrake 8.1
Ti manca un link simbolico al device corrispondente al lettore cdrom in /dev. Controlla in /etc/fstab a quale device punta la directory /mnt/cdrom Ammettendo che sia hdc (caso + comune) spostati in /dev e crea il link simbolico: cd /dev ln -s hdc cdrom e sei a posto Ciao Marco
Re: [newbie-it] konqueror-netscape-mozilla-galeon
Non so se può esserti utile, ma io mi sono regolato così e vado mooolto bene: 1) ho abbandonato konqueror come navigatore web perche'non riuscivo a configurare i plugin (non ditelo agli amici del kde) 2) ho scaricato netscape 6.2 versione piena con tutti i plugin java compreso. impieghi una vita (2,anche 3 ore) ma una volta per tutte. 3) quando hai netscape 6.2 il mozilla (open source!) sulla distribuzione mandrake condivide (forse) i plugin di netscape; condivide anche la posta che puoi vedere indifferentemente da mozilla e da netscape. p.s. se vuoi utilizzare netscape 6 non devi ancora avere installato il netscape dei dischetti o ti conviene disinstallarlo dal control center. Quindi hai due browser etici, di cui uno anche open, funzionanti. se disgraziatamente mozilla non trova i plugin di netscape devi solo copiarli da net a moz ci sono i tip negli archivi della mailing list in inglese. Inoltre ci sono downloader per linux che permettono di scaricare con la funzione di resume, come i tipici download accelerators di win. Se hai un modem lento o una linea fallace sono indispensabili. Prova nt downloader, c'è sui dischetti del powerpack (cerca con control cneter, con nome nt) o sulla rete come rpm. Scusate se posto su un argomento gia trattatoma nelle precedenti mail non avevo capito granche. In tutti i browsers elencati mancano i plugin per java e flash , giusto? a me interessa averne uno che funzioni pienamente , in modo da poter abbandonare definitivamente Winzow. Quale browser mi consigliate di ottimizare? o tutti i brows.. si rifanno a netscape? poco fa cercavo di scaricare un plugin per java , ma avendo un modem da 33,6 funzionante sotto linux la cosa mi è risultatat un po' lunga (difatti dopo 45 minuti di dowload mi è caduta la inea e ho salutato il plugin) qualcuno mi sa indicare un link per java e/o flash dalle dimensioni umane? Ciao , Tom
Re: [newbie-it] konqueror-netscape-mozilla-galeon
Alle 13:21, lunedì 18 marzo 2002, hai scritto: Scusate se posto su un argomento gia trattatoma nelle precedenti mail non avevo capito granche. In tutti i browsers elencati mancano i plugin per java e flash , giusto? a me interessa averne uno che funzioni pienamente , in modo da poter abbandonare definitivamente Winzow. [cut] Un'altra soluzione (per konqueror), che cito per dovere di cronaca e che ho utilizzato io: se hai la versione beta di StarOffice 6, questo installa la sua java. Dentro konqueror - sezione navigatore Konqueror c'è, in basso a destra, lo spazio per inserire il Percorso dell'eseguibile java. Ho immesso il percorso java di StarOffice: /home/utente/staroffice6.0/program/jre1.3.1/bin/java Ora la mia installazione di StarOffice è da singolo utente e non l'installazione di rete. Se si è fatta un'installazione di rete si deve prendere in considerazione il percorso reale sulla propria macchina. Comunque java funziona benissimo e, al momento, non ho nessun problema con applet ed altro. Ciao Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini Mandrake Linux 8.1 on Pentium III 688 Mhz Linux Machine # 103048 Linux User # 203143
Re: [newbie-it] cd audio su mandrake 8.1
Il giornol Sun, 17 Mar 2002 18:32:45 +0100 Daniele Micci [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Ciao, il tuo problema dovrebbe dipendere da DEVFS. Devi disattivarlo (cerca nell'archivio della lista come fare) e creare il corretto collegamento simbolico al device CDROM (anche questo lo trovi nell'archivio della ML). Grazie! Avevo già spulciato l'archivio ma nn sapevo bene cosa cercare,... ora tutto è a posto mi mancava di creare il corretto link simbolico al cdrom. -- SkyHeart -another happy Linux user- user #205247
Re: [newbie-it] fuso...orario
Il giorno 11:19, domenica 17 marzo 2002 hai scritto: Da quando ho installato la MDK ho un curioso inconveniente ho orari differernti nei due OS (winz9x e MDK8.1) installati nel pc...corregendone uno al reboot con l'altro mi si sballa l'altrola differenza tra i due è di un ora esatta. Ho provato a modificare l'orario anche dal bios,ma non ha avuto efetto. Avete qualche idea su come risolvere la cosa? grazie gia' da ora Ciao , Tom Ciao, verifica il fuso orario. Probabilmente uno dei due è errato. Per Linux, clicca col destro sull'orologio in KDE, inserisci la password di root e fai le verifiche/modifiche opportune. Per Windows dovrebbe essere più o meno lo stesso procedimento. Daniele
[newbie-it] scheda video savage ed X
Ciao. Sto tentando di installare 8.1 su un pc con scheda video savage e monitor lcd (quelli delle offerte nataslizie della vobis) ed ho problemi con X. Dalla mailing list inglese ho appreso che non c'e' il supporto per le schede savage nell'X 4.. di mandrake. peraltro anche scegliendo X3.. non ho successo. ho provato ad installare in expert mode richiedendo X3... e poi scaricare un XFree86 che dovrebbe supportare la scheda da www.probo.com/timr/ con nessun successo. qualcuno ha istallato su uno di questi computers e può darmi consigli (penso ne abbiano venduta una marea) grazie. Paolo Brusasco.
Re: [newbie] MP3 to WAV
On Monday 18 March 2002 4:28 am, you wrote: Guilherme Cirne wrote: Hi, Does anyone know an easy way to do a batch conversion of mp3 files to wav files. For example, I want to easily convert all the mp3 files in one directory to wav files, keeping the same filename (only changing the extension from .mp3 to .wav). Using mpg123 -w ~/tmp/*.wav ~/tmp/*.mp3 doesn't work, since it reads all the mp3 files and outputs just one big wav file with the name *.wav. Any help is welcome. TIA, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Use XMMS. Change the output plugin to Diskwriter. Thanks, that did the trick! -- Guilherme Cirne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tinyfirewall
Colin Jenkins wrote: Hello civileme, Monday, March 18, 2002, 5:20:01 PM, you wrote: c /etc/Bastille/bastille-firewall.cfg c And look at bastille-firewall.cfg.orig to see why it is next to useless c unless hand-configured. c Cannot print remotely using CUPS unless the cups server is on the uplink c side, and of course no NIS/NFS. c Civileme ummm, I must be confused (nothing unusual about that) I was running Bastille, but had some problems with disconnection, so when I reinstalled, I just ran internet connection sharing and the basic firewall setup in Mandrake control center (which I thought was tinyfirewall) I only have bastille-firewall.cfg.orig in /etc/Bastille/ and when I test it at grc.com, all ports are closed but not stealth. I wasnt going to worry about setting up Bastille again till 8.2 comes out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com tiny firewall is a very limited and restrictive bastille setup, but with a nice GUI tool. It is useful for stand-alones and not much else. On connection sharing it protects you from an iptables rules flush at boot but you can also configure that by hand (ref http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/81errata.php3). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world style
For the time being at least, free speech has to be pretty much the same as free beer. If the code is free, then anyone who wants can make free binaries, including cloning your entire distribution (remember Mandrake itself was for many years thought of as a Red Hat clone). If the code isn't free, you lose your developers. That is the real world - you can't have half-free software. Robin On Monday 18 March 2002 07:46, john rigby wrote: Hi Todd folks, Explaining value: How much money do you think charities would receive if the big numbers weren't tax deductible? Many years ago a friend of mine who thought he knew marketing ( was a famous expert) went into professional fund-raising. Lasted 3 months. Yet, it is the little people that DO make real charities work. They just don't have the money... BUT if you give them an option to buy something that is actually useful as well, they do, they do. Some genius in Oz many years ago came up with the idea of the Lion's Club Xmas Cake. Even I used to buy a couple .. I don't even believe in Free Trials. I believe in guarantees. Moneyback ones. Who could run a business today without them? In most civilised countries they are mandatory. If *anyone* could download a *demo* of Mandrake, that too is different. THAT would be very smart. AND small. It would have to demo a full replacement for THAT other one's suite - that's all. That's all means just that. Not one in a million - literally- of the potential users out there would even ever know what a Server was. Would ever use the utils. For true Geeks, the legion of Masochists who like developing\getting broken by these things, by all means they should be able to play with kernels etc. to their hearts content. They are vital - but they have little to do with successful, competent *marketing* strategy. At most in the whole world we are talking about 10,000 people. All could be absorbed into a Friends Of Mandrake Developer's Club (free - entry requirement being a proved fully working install) and given lots of help via the millions coming in from a sensible consumer distro... But, what on earth *IS* someone who can't afford a lousy $100 doing playing with Server Systems and expecting support??? ( Pardon my ignorance, but what type of person are we talking about here, then?) REAL Server Systems DO cost thousands - I know I've bought and paid for them over the years. I STILL don't ever expect them to be free! What I hope for is just the dream of freedom of choice. To finalise my point: The 18 richest people in the history of this planet - 6 of whom each have more financial power than existed in the entire world a century ago, run businesses based on maximising of market opportunity - which translated means: charging what the market is prepared to pay. Not even what will make a simple profit - but maximising what the market will pay. None of them and no successful person in the history of the world ever made any money by giving their product or service away! Samples, yes, Demos, yes, the whole cake? I repeat, can someobody show me what the sales pitch is here? There is a market like me who will pay for experimental products in the hope of getting an edge, or even holding on (to his sanity) but, we are miniscule. How many total paid-for retail packs has Mandrake sold? Not even enough to run a single, tiny Corporate Jet. But, 20 million at just $10 each = $200 million - with no distribution costs. It's a start. Especially as almost nobody came to the pay-for Club Party. Who would? Most of the people out there won't even pay for a disc pak that you can buy for a few bucks. They are already conditioned to free. They will build a machine at home to save $20-50 assembly fee. Get no guarantee. Some do it because they like the pain. They are not the market. They are not the market They are not the market The market is the 90 million annoyed, frustrated Windows Users who will soon be told to join a subscriber thing or else. The market even bigger and better is the 300 million people out there who would buy a computer if it wasn't all so confusing and threatening and full of 20 y.o. kids showing off in electronic stores using all the latest splat words. Instead of a nice older person who smiles and arranges their home installation for them and a training session on the Net to hook them into a User Support Group Mandrake could own it. Cheap low-level hardware. Cheap Operating System Cheap Software Built-in giant underground support network. Jobs as installers for hundreds of junior geeks Jobs as tutors for hundreds of older Users. It would all be so easy. Cheers, Him Again - Original Message - From: Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] How to best
Re: [newbie] Connection sharing reconfiguration.
Wei, The easiest way to fix this is to install a proper firewall setup, which is a good move anyway. I found that this went away after I installed Interactive Bastille. Somewhere in the default network setup on LM, IP forwarding gets turned off, probably by the default firewall. If you set up a firewall intentionally, and specify that IP forwarding is to be allowed, this problem is bypassed. There are many firewalls to choose from, but if you just want to share your internet connection and keep the black hats out, Interactive Bastille is easy and teaches you some stuff along the way. (It's on your distro CDs). gShield has also been mentioned as an exceptionally easy one to set up, but I haven't tried that personally. HTH Brian On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 01:50, Wei Wang wrote: One Mandrake box and a windows box sharing one IP address. IP masquarading was set up via Mandrake control center Connection Sharing. Everything works fine except that everytime after Mandrake reboot, the configuration of Conneciton sharing has to be done again. Is there any way I could keep the configuration? Many thanks, Wei Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which firewall?
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 19:04, civileme wrote: Aryan Ameri wrote: Hi there: Well thanks all of you guys for your answers about the WINE thing. I really didn't expect to learn about WINE so much in just one day. I went to the codeweavers website and downloaded the Demo version. It really works nice and it met my expectations. If I'm am going to learn Linux with this pace, I will definitely delete my windows partition soon. I have another question. When I used to use Windows, I used a Firewall called Zone Alarm. It really was a fine product. It was freeware and it gave me the security that I needed. Now I want to use a firewall in Linux and I don't know what to use and how to use it. The best part about Zone Alarm was that it was very easy to setup and use. I have a dial up connection so I don't have a static IP address and zone alarm did provide the security that I needed ( It passed Steve Gibson's test at www.grc.com http://www.grc.com and that is all I need) I know that there are plenty of firewalls out there but they seem to be for experts. is there any easy to use firewall for Linux? if so where can I get it? again maybe a URL will help. Thanks Linux registered user # 266090 Aryan Well, for standalones, there is smoothwall and also Mandrake SNF (single network firewall), but they are standalones, designed for a machine by themselves, one between your network and the internet. For a small firewall that will work directly on your machine, load Bastille (four modules) from the CD and run it, either Bastille-Interactive or the Tk version--the Tk is a GUI. If you are using multiple machines and can put one on your internet connection, SNF is hard to beat. You install it on one machine and configure it using a web browser from another machine. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Just to clarify - if you install the GUI version of Bastille, the command to run it is: InteractiveBastille (without the quotes). When you install, make sure you select both Bastille and Bastille-tk-module. HTH Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] tinyfirewall
Hello civileme, Monday, March 18, 2002, 7:32:52 PM, you wrote: ot much else. On c connection sharing it protects you from an iptables rules flush at boot c but you can also configure that by hand (ref c http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/81errata.php3). c Civileme h http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/81errata.php3 404 Not Found ! -- Best regards, Colinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - PC building help
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Roger Sherman wrote: Sorry to address this to the list, but I'm at my wits end, and it's either this, or find a service center or something to fix this problem for me, and after building this PC, I really don't have the money. I built a PC about two 1/2 months ago (my first attempt at building a PC), and I'm having a booting problem, and a problem with it freezing up, and I'm hoping someone could help point me in the right direction, troubleshooting wise. First of all, the system configuration: Abit KG-7 motherboard AMD 1800XP 512 Meg DDR RAM ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder 32mg vid card SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 Platinum w/Live Drive 60 gig Maxtor HD generic DVD/CDROM from my old PC, a Compaq presario (which is happily gurgling along as a dedicated FTP server now) Now, it's got a boot problem that is baffling to me - to turn this PC on, I have to press the start button, at which point it sounds like it's starting up, the HD and all the fans start spinning, but I don't get the beep that I get with a successful boot, and there's no video output. So, I then have to turn the PC off, unplug it, and plug it back in - at which point it will usually start up again. Now, I do mean it will start up again just from plugging it in - I don't have to press the start button. But, sometimes I'll plug it in, and it wont start, at which point I'll have to unplug it, then press start, and it seems to discharge a little power. Then I plug it in again, and it will start. Then I get the beep that it's booting correctly, and I get video output and away we go. Now, I'd live with this problem, if it weren't for the system freezes. The first time I turn the PC on each day, there is always a complete freeze of the system - and I totally can't get it unfrozen, either by Control-Alt-Backspace, or Alt-SysRq-r. My only recourse is to press and hold the start button til it shuts down (with this box, you have to hold the start button in for 5 seconds to shut it down, for some reason). Using the reset button doesn't seem to work. This system freeze can happen anywhere, too. Sometimes it'll happen when Mandrake is actually starting up, once it even happened at a command line login (it's set up to start at runlevel 3), but usually it happens about 2 - 3 minutes after the system is up and running...usually after I've started X, and am checking my email. And I can't let it run all day - the PC actually works great once it gets past the booting and system freeze problems (usually the system freeze problem happens one or two times, and then the PC will run properly), but if I get up and walk away for several hours, then come back, of course the monitor will have gone into power save mode, and I jiggle the mouse to wake it up, but at that point for some reason the PC will have stopped giving video output, and I have to start the whole process over again. My ideal situation would be to just leave this PC running 24/7, but that makes it impossible, obviously. Now, I've tried several things to fix the problem - a friend told me the symptoms are indicative of a hardware incompatability, so I changed the HD, the CD-ROM (which is why I have the DVD player in there - I originally had a Plextor CD-RW), the power supply, and I took out the SoundBlaster and nic card (a linksys nic), although I put those two back in, since it didn't seem to make a difference. I also tried disconnecting the floppy drive. Before I replaced the HD and CD-RW, they effectively stopped working with this PC, and I'm worried what's currently in there will stop working as well, as every time I make a change, things seem to get a little better, but never really work right, and then things degenerate. I don't have anything else I can swap into this box, so if it continues to degenerate with the current config, I'll have to stop using it until I can afford to take it to a PC doctor. Again, sorry for the OT post, but any help anyone can offer would be hugely appreciated. Ack...forgot to mention - I read somewhere that the KG-7 occasionally suffers from wierd voltage spikes caused by the CPU and case fan monitoring, so I tried hooking them up to fan connections that didn't use the monitoring, which made absolutely no difference. -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world style
EXACTLY ME MIND ! Thanks a lot Sridhar Karine On Monday 18 March 2002 10:19, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: You seem to be applying closed-source pricing policies to something that is free (as in speech). Why would one pay $100 for a Mandrake server when the source is free? Someone can compile this source code and bingo: free (as in speech and in beer) Mandrake, which can be legally distributed to millions of people. Otherwise, they could just download Debian or Red Hat. Sure, Mandrake could make proprietary aplications like Suse does (and note that Suse is in financial difficulty while Red Hat isn't), but that would destroy Mandrakesoft's reputation in the GNU/Linux community. Mandrakesoft is a free software company through to the core. In this way it is almost like Debian, and it is the principal reason why myself and many others like the company. Estranging the developer community would just create a slow-developing and unpopular distro like Caldera OpenLinux (which used to be amongst the most popular). I like Mandrake. I respect Mandrakesoft. But if they move to a restrictive pricing policy like that of Suse or Caldera, I will switch to a free (as in speech) distro like Debian or Gentoo. -- Karine ZUERCHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Master slave drives
I have W2K NTFS and numerous Ext2 Linux OS's on the same hard drive(s) and have no trouble sharing data so why the VFAT partition ? John John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday 17 March 2002 12:30 am, you wrote: Joe, this is a no problem scenario. Just go ahead and install 8.1 on the slave and let lilo install as it wants during the 8.1 install and it will work. I have XP and 8.1 dual booting and there was nothing special required during the install. Just worked. Make sure you allocate a VFAT partition somewhere along the line though, so you can use it to share data bn XP and LM. That is assuming XP is on NTFS. You can mount the NTFS for reading from LM, but writing is maybe a little on the high risk side. Brian On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 05:13, Joe Barron wrote: Thank,s .Shane you understand what I,m wanting to do it,s me that is scared of this thing .I built a AMD 1900 for a friend the other day he had acouple of drives neither very big so I used one for the master and put XP on it (what he wanted not my ideal) the slave has something on it 98 I think but this weekend I wanted to wipe it out (it,s only 2.5 gig) and put 8.1 on it .But I,ve only setup lilo on 98 and on one hardrive never set-up were when I boot I want to pick another drive. - Original Message - From: shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Master slave drives maybe i don't understand, but, i just installed 8.2 release canidate 1 on a slave drive with win2000 on the master and i use lilo to boot. IIRC only part of lilo goes onto the MBR of the first disk, the rest is in your boot folder in linux (is that right guys?) and lilo handles booting for both systems. as i said though, i have not done XP. you could install lilo to the second drive i guess, but it wouldn't do anything. you could also not istall lilo and simply use a boot disk. i would certainly be sure to have a working boot disk for XP before i started though. also, once installed, if you wish to remove lilo you can boot to linux and as root run lilo -u which if i recall is for -uninstall. :-) On Saturday 16 March 2002 08:30, Joe Barron opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: Sorry ! Shane you told me what I wanted to know ,except were well lilo install master harddrive are slave .The system is for someone else but what he would like to do is have XP on the master and 8.1 on the 2nd H/D which I have slaved and he would like to have the 8.1 on that drive.Well this work trouble free? anything I need to watch loadind MD on the 2nd drive? - Original Message - -- 'Tis some script kidd3z, I muttered, tapping at my server port- Only this, and nothing more. - Edgar root Poe. shane http://shentzu.home.mindspring.com/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ - --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- J Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Fwd: [newbie] Re: ARTS / Audio Codec97 / and VT8233 Audio Chip configuration
Monday ,18.03.2003,1300GMT Well, despite best efforts my sound system is less that stable. Provided that I shut down completely and reboot ,CD Player OK. Sometimes X-CD-Roast sound player OK, most of the time not. If I automatically reboot ,without pause, NOTHING. Taskbar ControlCenter -Sound reports:- ALSA v0.5.11 emulation code (my sound driver ) Card Config VIA8233 at 0xec00,irq10 Audio device 0:VIA8233(Duplex) Synth dev. : Not enabled in Config Midi Dev. : Not enabled in Config Times: 7:sytem timer Mixers:0:Advance logic ALC200/200p lsmod reports:- [root@localhost root]# lsmod Module Size Used by ppp_generic19616 0 (autoclean) slhc5136 0 (autoclean) [ppp_generic] snd-seq-oss28944 0 (unused) snd-seq-midi-event 3216 0 [snd-seq-oss] snd-seq41856 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event] snd-seq-device 3984 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq] snd-pcm-oss18624 0 (unused) snd-pcm-plugin 15792 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-mixer-oss 4800 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-card-via82335952 0 snd-pcm31616 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin snd-card-via8233] snd-timer 8528 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm] snd-ac97-codec 25056 0 [snd-card-via8233] snd-mixer 24544 0 [snd-mixer-oss snd-ac97-codec] snd35248 1 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-seq-device snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin snd-mixer-oss snd-card-via8233 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer] soundcore 4208 4 [snd] usb-uhci 21232 0 (unused) printer 5920 0 usb-ohci 18880 0 (unused) usbcore50624 1 [usb-uhci printer usb-ohci] nls_iso8859-1 2880 4 (autoclean) ntfs 50320 4 (autoclean) sg 28624 0 (autoclean) (unused) sr_mod 14944 0 (autoclean) (unused) parport_pc 20240 1 (autoclean) lp 5808 1 (autoclean) parport24768 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] sd_mod 12320 0 (unused) My /etc/modules.conf:- alias net-pf-4 ipx pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start alias usb-interface usb-ohci alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi above snd-card-via8233 snd-pcm-oss #alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-via8233 alias usb-interface1 usb-uhci alias usb-interface2 usb-uhci alias usb-interface3 usb-uhci #alias /dev/sound sound-slot-0 #alias /dev/audio /dev/sound #alias /dev/mixer /dev/sound #alias /devdsp/dev/sound #alias /dev/dspW /dev/sound #alias /dev/midi /dev/sound # ALSA native device support #alias char-major-116 snd #option snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1 alias snd-card-0 snd-card-via8233 #next line might need to have snd_id,if so... #option snd-card-interwave snd_index=0 #see below #OSS/Free setup #alias char-major-14 soundcore #alias sound-siot-0 snd-card-0 #alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss #alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss #alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss #alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss #alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss As you can see I have been messing about experimenting with different options, each of which I lifted verbatum from various odd websites. Nothing I do gives me a stable intergrated sound system.I feel sure there is nothing wrong with the ALSA sound driver, no, it's a configuration problem. It's a matter of getting all the various components to communicate properly with one another. ARTS is disabled. I think I have reached an impasse , I don't feel I understand all these various commands and what they are supposed to do eg. urpmi slocate slocate -u -c slocate update modprobe-card-via 8233 ntsysv pnpdump isapnp I need a bit more imput , to sort out my uderstanding , to progress in a more logical way. I'm just fumbling around hoping to come across the answer, when an application of logic and understanding is required. help John -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [newbie] Re: ARTS / Audio Codec97 / and VT8233 Audio Chipconfiguration Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:00:59 + From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NEWBIE 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. Friday , 15.03.2002, GMT , upon first bootup to dektop, to my suprise I find that the CD player is now working, and not only that but putting up other programmes like sound mixer does not hault it either as it used to when ARTS was running things. Why this should be so today, but not last night , I haven't a clue. Perhaps someone can suggest a reason. Anyway thats the good news, the bad news is that I cannot play cashed(to hard drive) audio files in X-CD-Roast, that is in the Roast's own audio player programme. A configuration problem ? Any suggestions would be welcome. I cann't live without my Audio CD Writer in full working order. Please help John On Thursday 14 March 2002 10:27 pm, you wrote:
RE: [newbie] What is ICE and DCOP?
Graham, I only use KDE as my window environment/manager. Thanks LX for the DCOP info. That cleared the fog. Scott -Original Message- From: Lyvim Xaphir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:38 PM To: NewbieMandrake-List Subject: Re: [newbie] What is ICE and DCOP? On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 11:21, Burrows, Scott wrote: Hey all, Newbie question here. I have a MD8.1 system. What are the following files in my home folder for? If they are corrupted or deleted what happens to the system? 1) ICEauthority 2) DCOPserver_localhost.localdomain_0: Thanks Scott Burrows Scott, Truthfully, I'm not sure about ICE. But DCOP is a process that allows desktop application interoperability under KDE. I run Enlightenment with the KDE compatibility mode enabled and DCOP runs a symlink in my home dir as well. It allows cutting and pasting between apps, among other things. HTH, LX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Higher priority for XMMS
I don't think so - any user can nice their own running tasks so nicer nice values (i.e. any user can say, this program I am running, it's low priority so don't spend too much effort on running it for me) but only root has the power to do the opposite (i.e. lower the nice value to make the scheduler spend more time on this piece of code). -Original Message- From: Nelson Bartley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 5:58 PM To: LM Newbie Mailing List Subject: RE: [newbie] Higher priority for XMMS so there is no way to give a higher priority to the program from within a non-root account? On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 10:36, FLYNN, Steve wrote: You can 'nice' the task, to a lower value to give it more cpu cycles. However, to do so, you will have to be root anyway. It's easy enough to do with the sudo command though... -Original Message- From: Nelson Bartley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 3:29 PM To: LM Newbie Mailing List Subject:[newbie] Higher priority for XMMS I've got a question.. I've been finding that XMMS is skipping a lot on my system. Not because my system isn't fast, but rather because I've got ALOT of things going on on it. (folding, evolution, gaim, gkrellm, mozilla, kdevelop, gnomeicu, etc...) I was wondering if it were posible to give XMMS a higher priority (like say realtime)? (and yes I realize I can log in as root and run the app, but that is very annoying) NB File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
On Monday 18 March 2002 04:36, Sridhar Dhanapalan opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: One thing I don't understand is how people have interpreted Mandrakesoft's request for people to join the Mandrake Club as a plea for charity to keep an ailing company afloat. It is no such thing. The i think you have the right of it. as i keep explain to all my mandrake using friends, money now sees to that they keep the type of people that are paid by mandrake to work for projects like KDE or Gnome. mandrake is in ok condition, but mandrakes contribution to free software may take a small hit. since i can't code, i pay so others can. on the other hand, if you like and use the distro, and can afford to, shouldn't you support it? even if they aren't begging for cash to stay afloat, surely paying for software you use is a good thing© if you can do it. by no means is that a guilt trip. i used 7.0 briefly, 7.1 and 7.2 all without giving a penny. i didn't have pennies. starving student and all that. nw, while not wealthy by any stretch, i can afford to live (student can't do that) so i make donations and buy boxes and join clubs. behold the magic linux, ;-) i wasn't a thief for using it before, and now i am a proud contributor. -- Microsoft: Having a false sense of security was never so expensive. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How to Install Alternative Kernel
I recently downloaded an updated kernel version 2.4.8-26mdk.rpm which is said to be suited to LM8.1 . How can I install this without overwriting my existing kernel version k2.4.8-19mdk in /boot partition. When I went to install it using RPM package manager I am sure it was going to overwrite so I chose to leave it. I want to install kv2.4.8-16mdk in the same /boot partition as old kernel version and work out a Lilo boot script to boot it.So I bet it isn't that simple ? Can I do this ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT - PC building help
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Bill Spatz wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Sherman Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] OT - PC building help Sorry to address this to the list, but I'm at my wits end, and it's either this, or find a service center or something to fix this problem for me, and after building this PC, I really don't have the money. I built a PC about two 1/2 months ago (my first attempt at building a PC), and I'm having a booting problem, and a problem with it freezing up, and I'm hoping someone could help point me in the right direction, troubleshooting wise. -- I had a similar problem with my laptop after upgrading the RAM. Be sure that your RAM is fully and securely seated in their slots. Bill Thanks Bill...I actually had to take a great deal of care with the RAM...this board seems to be incredibly sensitive to how the RAM is seated. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the problem. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.333 / Virus Database: 187 - Release Date: 03/08/2002 -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 8.2 Blackbox logout problem
I don't know if I should submit this as a bug report or not, but has anyone else noticed that on the menu on blackbox (where you right click to get a floating menu), it no longer has the Exit (logout) option at the bottom? Now to get out of it, I have to Cntl-Alt-Backspace. Is there a better way of doing this? -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - PC building help
On Monday 18 March 2002 07:28 am, Roger Sherman wrote: Sorry to address this to the list, but I'm at my wits end, and it's either this, or find a service center or something to fix this problem for me, and after building this PC, I really don't have the money. First try re-seating everything, ram, cable connections, peripheal cards, etc, even the cpu. Clean the connectors on ram and other cards with a clean pencil eraser. If you have more'n one stick of ram, try reversing the order they're installed. Make sure your harddrive cables aren't wadded up, don't have any kinks in 'em. Make sure that Compaq CD drive is properly set to either master or slave, and not CS (cable select). Abit's are fussy about what card is in what slot. Look for a KG-7 FAQ, there's often recommends for which card to put where, eg, SB Live! in slot 3. There are many reports of Abit/SB Live! problems, sometimes solved by moving them to suggested slots. I believe you'll have the best chance of getting further help from an AMD newsgroup. As always make sure you're grounded to the case to avoid static elec shocks to the electronics. Working barefoot on a tile floor is a good idea. Give the PS a few minutes to loose any residual charge after unplugging before working on the system. I'm no big fan of Abit's period. Might as well admit that up front. Many users experience just the symptoms you describe, but with any board they're indicative of motherboard and/or power supply problems. You need at least a 300w PS and it should be one one AMD's recommended list. Go by model numbers, many PS's are sold under different brand names. BUT with Abit's it's more often the motherboard. I believe that's why AMD does not recommend them. http://www.amd.com/us-en/ (look for AMD Athlon Configuration Info) It could also be many other varied things (eg, drive cables, bad ram, etc) causing your problems, but you'll have to eliminate the mobo/PS first. They're the most important part of any system. The very foundation. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas I built a PC about two 1/2 months ago (my first attempt at building a PC), and I'm having a booting problem, and a problem with it freezing up, and I'm hoping someone could help point me in the right direction, troubleshooting wise. First of all, the system configuration: Abit KG-7 motherboard AMD 1800XP 512 Meg DDR RAM ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder 32mg vid card SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 Platinum w/Live Drive 60 gig Maxtor HD generic DVD/CDROM from my old PC, a Compaq presario (which is happily gurgling along as a dedicated FTP server now) Now, it's got a boot problem that is baffling to me - to turn this PC on, I have to press the start button, at which point it sounds like it's starting up, the HD and all the fans start spinning, but I don't get the beep that I get with a successful boot, and there's no video output. So, I then have to turn the PC off, unplug it, and plug it back in - at which point it will usually start up again. Now, I do mean it will start up again just from plugging it in - I don't have to press the start button. But, sometimes I'll plug it in, and it wont start, at which point I'll have to unplug it, then press start, and it seems to discharge a little power. Then I plug it in again, and it will start. Then I get the beep that it's booting correctly, and I get video output and away we go. Now, I'd live with this problem, if it weren't for the system freezes. The first time I turn the PC on each day, there is always a complete freeze of the system - and I totally can't get it unfrozen, either by Control-Alt-Backspace, or Alt-SysRq-r. My only recourse is to press and hold the start button til it shuts down (with this box, you have to hold the start button in for 5 seconds to shut it down, for some reason). Using the reset button doesn't seem to work. This system freeze can happen anywhere, too. Sometimes it'll happen when Mandrake is actually starting up, once it even happened at a command line login (it's set up to start at runlevel 3), but usually it happens about 2 - 3 minutes after the system is up and running...usually after I've started X, and am checking my email. And I can't let it run all day - the PC actually works great once it gets past the booting and system freeze problems (usually the system freeze problem happens one or two times, and then the PC will run properly), but if I get up and walk away for several hours, then come back, of course the monitor will have gone into power save mode, and I jiggle the mouse to wake it up, but at that point for some reason the PC will have stopped giving video output, and I have to start the whole process over again. My ideal situation would be to just leave this PC running 24/7, but that makes it impossible, obviously. Now, I've tried several things to fix the problem - a friend told me the
Re: [newbie] How to Install Alternative Kernel
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/index.html#ku On Sunday 17 March 2002 13:04, John Richard Smith opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: I recently downloaded an updated kernel version 2.4.8-26mdk.rpm which is said to be suited to LM8.1 . How can I install this without overwriting my existing kernel version k2.4.8-19mdk in /boot partition. -- ... the only people I fear, are those who never have doubts -Billy Joel shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] best news reader and ftp client
Rather than using Pan for binary newsgroups, try bnr (Binary News Reaper). There is a Win version and a Linux version available. It;s really is very very good for binary newsgroups. http://www.bnr.com (I think!) -Original Message- From: Tom Brinkman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 10:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [newbie] best news reader and ftp client On Sunday 17 March 2002 02:44 pm, Jose Mirles wrote: For a newsreader, most have recommended PAN or KNODE. I still use Forte Agent in a Win4Lin session. For FTP, I love gftp. I think it beats anything in the windows world. IMNSHO, News: Knode for discussion groups (also way ahead of whatever was in second place in a recent Web survey). Pan for unattended auto d/l'g from binary groups with resume/retry when needed even if you should happen to shutdown your system and re-boot. IOW's, pick a bunch of stuff and go to bed ;) FTP: by far, nt (Webdownloader for X) is the very best, also supports resume/retry when needed even if you shutdown your system and re-boot, and/or switch mirrors. Very quick and simple to use. Also displays connection rate, both graphically and numerically. Probly the only d/l butler on the planet that can successfully get Mandrake ISO's over a = 56k connection ;) all the above are on your Cd's if not already installed -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT - PC building help
El lun, 18-03-2002 a las 10:58, Roger Sherman escribió: On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Bill Spatz wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Sherman Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] OT - PC building help Sorry to address this to the list, but I'm at my wits end, and it's either this, or find a service center or something to fix this problem for me, and after building this PC, I really don't have the money. I built a PC about two 1/2 months ago (my first attempt at building a PC), and I'm having a booting problem, and a problem with it freezing up, and I'm hoping someone could help point me in the right direction, troubleshooting wise. -- I had a similar problem with my laptop after upgrading the RAM. Be sure that your RAM is fully and securely seated in their slots. Bill Thanks Bill...I actually had to take a great deal of care with the RAM...this board seems to be incredibly sensitive to how the RAM is seated. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the problem. i had similar problems ( not booting, freezing ) with my sister's computer a while ago. i had to borrow her a stick of RAM to replace hers, and that did the trick. is there any way you can test your RAM? on other machine, a friend's or something? HTH. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to Install Alternative Kernel
On Sunday 17 March 2002 21:04, John Richard Smith wrote: I recently downloaded an updated kernel version 2.4.8-26mdk.rpm which is said to be suited to LM8.1 . Well don't use that kernel... It is the one that shipped with 8.1 and was replaced due to a security vulnerability. The current 'official' kernel for 8.1 is 2.4.8-34mdk You can get it from www.rpmfind.net LM8.2 will be released this week, and that will have a much newer kernel. How can I install this without overwriting my existing kernel version k2.4.8-19mdk in /boot partition. When I went to install it using RPM package manager I am sure it was going to overwrite so I chose to leave it. Good move... so many people have had problems by overwriting kernels... You should install the kernel alongside the old one with rpm -Ivh kernel blah blah I want to install kv2.4.8-16mdk in the same /boot partition as old kernel version and work out a Lilo boot script to boot it.So I bet it isn't that simple ? Yes it is. All you need is a new stanza in your /etc/lilo.conf file. For a complete procedure on kernel updating refer to http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php HTH derek Can I do this ? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] cdrecord in DAO
Hi, Is there a way to define the amount of silence between audio tracks when using cdrecord in DAO mode? TIA, -- Guilherme Cirne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Dvorak on Linux
John Dvorak has an interesting piece entitled Is Linux Your Next OS? at http://www.pcmag.com/article/0,2997,s=1500a=23172,00.asp As usual, there are some things in there that border on the outrageous, but I thought that some might find it interesting. Regards, Chuck -- Charles Muller Toyo Gakuen University Digital Dictionary of Buddhism and CJK-English Dictionary www.acmuller.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to Install Alternative Kernel
On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:04:32 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently downloaded an updated kernel version 2.4.8-26mdk.rpm which is said to be suited to LM8.1 . How can I install this without overwriting my existing kernel version k2.4.8-19mdk in /boot partition. When I went to install it using RPM package manager I am sure it was going to overwrite so I chose to leave it. I want to install kv2.4.8-16mdk in the same /boot partition as old kernel version and work out a Lilo boot script to boot it.So I bet it isn't that simple ? Can I do this ? cd to the directory to which you downloaded the kernel. Su to root and do: rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.8-16mdk.rpm Using any editor open /etc/lilo.conf Verify that the new kernel image listing was created that the initrd= is correct and that the append options are also correct. If you wish for the new kernel to be the default edit the 4th line of lilo.conf to read default= 248-16 Save the change and exit the editor. From the terminal, still as root, enter: lilo This writes your new lilo and on your next boot you will have the option to boot to either of your installed kernels with the -18 being the default. Just so that you can see one that has been altered several time I have attached a copy of mine. Charles lilo.sample.gz Description: Binary data Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Network Monitor Program Web Gui
Do any of you know of a program that will display statistics on my home network that I could access via the web. Statistics such as most visited web sites and bytes transferred, network usage by the hour or by the day, some type of information in that nature. Thanks, Ira
Re: [newbie] how to create a logout message?
Hi Todd, Todd Slater wrote: I have edited the file /etc/profile so that users get a message when logging in. What file would I edit so that all users receive a bye-bye message when they log out? I can do it per individual user, but is there a universal file like /etc/profile? Gracias, Todd I would also be interested if someone gave you a solution or you managed to find out howto. appreciated -- === Hylton Conacher on KDE 2.1.1 on kernel 2.4.3-20mdk#1 Registered Linux user # 229959 on Mandrake 8 on an i686 (AMD 1 Ghz K7 mobo Licenced Windows user === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ping
Dear All, I cannot ping my vmware Windows95 guest from my LM8.1. I can ping my Linux from the Windows95, but I cannot reach the machine from Linux. Even so, the networking in Win95 is working well. I can see my machine and do anything with all of my Linux files within the vmware Windows. However I have not been able to get the samba networking going in Linux so that I can see my Windows95 machine and files. I have read and tried so many things in Samba, go rid of Bastille, worked with the /etc/hosts.allow and deny files and more. I do not know why I cannot reach the machine yet. Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I need your suggestions
Hello Linux gurus, Is it okay to put up a firewall, router and proxy servers/packages, all in one computer? Can you give me your recommended packages and what's their individual use, for this kind of setup? Also, can you give your how-to's in setting up this kind of setup? Thank you in advance. God bless you all... Just a newbie... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 11:08, sda wrote: Note that Mandrakesoft does have a donations page, which can be reached at http://mandrakelinux.com/donations/. They have _not_ publicised this site in their press release (in fact, it's been almost a year since they last mentioned it), so it is not a plea for charity. Donations is not charity?! Ok whatever you say. In closing all I'm going to say is that public for profit companies have no business asking for donations. Charge for the product, if it's good and people really are sincere about how much they like Mandrake, they'll pay for it. Otherwise they're just fairweather friends. -- -^- -^- ? ?Steve ^ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' ` Here's another troll tactic. Sridhar just very plainly stated above that Mandrake has a separate donations page. In this he is stating, in a very simple and understandable way, that MandrakeSoft has clearly delineated the lines between their subscription model of business and donations (or charity). Nowhere above can it be interpreted that Sridhar is saying that Donations are not charity. Youre not out to be reasonable, you're just trolling. And what's with the stupid looking sig, anyway? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Apache + PostgreSQL + qmail + djbdns + LDAP + CUPS
Hello Linux gurus, Is it okay to install Apache + PostgreSQL + qmail + djbdns + LDAP + CUPS in to one computer and this computer is connected through a dial-up connection? This is for my home network setup with a limited number of computers. Thank you very much in advance for giving your time to read this very newbie question. Any suggestions and/or recommendations is highly appreciated. God bless you all... =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Kernel upgrade problem
Hello Linux gurus, I've been trying to upgrade my default kernel-2.4.8 of my Mandrake 8.1 to a newer version but with no luck. I don't know what's the matter that everytime I installed a newer kernel version, I can't boot from it. I am using XFS for my /usr, /home, /tmp, /opt, etc. and ext2 for my /boot and / partitions. Anybody knows how to upgrade a newer kernel version using XFS and ext2 filesystems and give me their how-to's? Thank you in advance. Just a newbie... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world style
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 10:56, sda wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 08:19:15PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: You seem to be applying closed-source pricing policies to something that is free (as in speech). Why would one pay $100 for a Mandrake server when the source is free? Someone can compile this source code and bingo: free (as in speech and in beer) Mandrake, which can be legally distributed to millions of people. Otherwise, they could just download Debian or Red Hat. Sure, Mandrake could make proprietary aplications like Suse does (and note that Suse is in financial difficulty while Red Hat isn't), but that would destroy Mandrakesoft's reputation in the GNU/Linux community. Mandrakesoft is a free software company through to the core. In this way it is almost like Debian, and it is the principal reason why myself and many others like the company. Estranging the developer community would just create a slow-developing and unpopular distro like Caldera OpenLinux (which used to be amongst the most popular). Caldera is unpopular by whom? Maybe people like you, but the business community that *pays* for software and support seem, to like it very much. At least Caldera has a viable business model while Mandrake - well let's just say Mandrake is struggling. I find it extemely interesting that you home in on one particular part of Sridhar's statement above, (Caldera's popularity) but fail to address the rest of what he's said, which is totally valid. For that matter, you've skipped alot; which to me smacks of troll. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Audio CD in TAO mode
On Monday 18 March 2002 04:21 am, you wrote: Hi, When I try to burn an audio CD in TAO I get an error (in DAO it works fine). The output of cdrecord is as follows: Calling: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin/xcdrwrap CDRECORD dev= 0,0,0 fs=4096k driveropts=burnproof -v -useinfo speed=2 -dummy -eject -pad -audio /home/gui/tmp/Backbeat - Please Mr Postman.wav ... scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.20 pregap1: -1 Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 0 = CD-DA Using libscg version 'schily-0.5' Driveropts: 'burnproof' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: 'HL-DT-ST' Identifikation : 'CD-RW GCE-8240B ' Revision : '1.06' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO Drive buf size : 2029726720 = 1982155 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: audio 23 MB (02:17.92) no preemp pad Track 02: audio 45 MB (04:28.90) no preemp pad Total size: 68 MB (06:48.84) = 30663 sectors Lout start: 69 MB (06:50/63) = 30663 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 6 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+) (3) ATIP start of lead in: -11625 (97:27/00) ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74) Disk type:unknown Manuf. index: 81 Manufacturer: ILLEGAL OLD CODE: Old Ritek Co.??? Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 329186 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 16 in dummy mode for single session. 0 seconds. Operation starts. cdrecord: Turning BURN-Proof on Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error Starting new track at sector: 0 CDB: 2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1B 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 64 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x64 Qual 0x00 (illegal mode for this track) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.002s timeout 40s Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 write track data: error after 0 bytes Writing time:5.033s Fixating... WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode. Fixating time:0.003s Does anyone know what could be wrong? TIA, Try disabling the dummy mode. -- Jonathan Dlouhy Monday, March 18, 2002 HEADLINE! Man Struck by Lightning Faces Battery Charge Registered Linux user #264482 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - PC building help
Roger Sherman wrote: Sorry to address this to the list, but I'm at my wits end, and it's either this, or find a service center or something to fix this problem for me, and after building this PC, I really don't have the money. I built a PC about two 1/2 months ago (my first attempt at building a PC), and I'm having a booting problem, and a problem with it freezing up, and I'm hoping someone could help point me in the right direction, troubleshooting wise. First of all, the system configuration: Abit KG-7 motherboard AMD 1800XP 512 Meg DDR RAM ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder 32mg vid card SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 Platinum w/Live Drive 60 gig Maxtor HD generic DVD/CDROM from my old PC, a Compaq presario (which is happily gurgling along as a dedicated FTP server now) Now, it's got a boot problem that is baffling to me - to turn this PC on, I have to press the start button, at which point it sounds like it's starting up, the HD and all the fans start spinning, but I don't get the beep that I get with a successful boot, and there's no video output. So, I then have to turn the PC off, unplug it, and plug it back in - at which point it will usually start up again. Now, I do mean it will start up again just from plugging it in - I don't have to press the start button. But, sometimes I'll plug it in, and it wont start, at which point I'll have to unplug it, then press start, and it seems to discharge a little power. Then I plug it in again, and it will start. Then I get the beep that it's booting correctly, and I get video output and away we go. Now, I'd live with this problem, if it weren't for the system freezes. The first time I turn the PC on each day, there is always a complete freeze of the system - and I totally can't get it unfrozen, either by Control-Alt-Backspace, or Alt-SysRq-r. My only recourse is to press and hold the start button til it shuts down (with this box, you have to hold the start button in for 5 seconds to shut it down, for some reason). Using the reset button doesn't seem to work. This system freeze can happen anywhere, too. Sometimes it'll happen when Mandrake is actually starting up, once it even happened at a command line login (it's set up to start at runlevel 3), but usually it happens about 2 - 3 minutes after the system is up and running...usually after I've started X, and am checking my email. And I can't let it run all day - the PC actually works great once it gets past the booting and system freeze problems (usually the system freeze problem happens one or two times, and then the PC will run properly), but if I get up and walk away for several hours, then come back, of course the monitor will have gone into power save mode, and I jiggle the mouse to wake it up, but at that point for some reason the PC will have stopped giving video output, and I have to start the whole process over again. My ideal situation would be to just leave this PC running 24/7, but that makes it impossible, obviously. Now, I've tried several things to fix the problem - a friend told me the symptoms are indicative of a hardware incompatability, so I changed the HD, the CD-ROM (which is why I have the DVD player in there - I originally had a Plextor CD-RW), the power supply, and I took out the SoundBlaster and nic card (a linksys nic), although I put those two back in, since it didn't seem to make a difference. I also tried disconnecting the floppy drive. Before I replaced the HD and CD-RW, they effectively stopped working with this PC, and I'm worried what's currently in there will stop working as well, as every time I make a change, things seem to get a little better, but never really work right, and then things degenerate. I don't have anything else I can swap into this box, so if it continues to degenerate with the current config, I'll have to stop using it until I can afford to take it to a PC doctor. Again, sorry for the OT post, but any help anyone can offer would be hugely appreciated. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com OK well finding this line in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file OptionDPMS on and changing it to Option DPMS off will stop the powersaver (then just lock the screen when you leave for a while). I would be very concerned about a number of things: 1. The front panel connections to the header need to be double-checked... It is almost like the power switch is conected to the Green header pins. 2. The motherboard may have an intermittent short. Sspray instant frost in a few spots to see what happens. If you can reproduce the symptoms that way, time for a warranty return. 3. The motherboard may be like my experience with Abit, just plain poorly manufactured, and ready to eat other components. Abit did some really weird things with dodging around the PCI
[newbie] IDE CD Burner installation/use?
I've got a LiteOn LTR-12101B IDE CD BURNER installed, but I cannot burn to the CD... There was a CD reader installed before (and it worked fine). I want to use the excellent MONDO/MINDI (http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/) as a system backup tool from the command line. I'd also like the burner to work from within X, but my main concern is that it burns from the command line, since the machine is primarily a server. HardDrake 0.9.3 reports the burner under CD-ROMS as Unknown LITE-ON LTR-12101B (the Unknown is for the Vendor), Device /dev/hdc, with a Bus Type of ATAPI/IDE. My /etc/fstab entry for the CD is: /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,nosuid,noauto,user,exec,codepage=850,nodev 0 0 ...but I don't know for sure if that's right for the burner. It was what was in there when the previous CD reader was installed. So, what I've been trying to do is to use Mondo/Mindi to create a test CD image (saved as an iso file), which I would then like to burn to the CD burner using CDRECORD (the tool specified by Mondo/Mindi). I don't know what command line parameters to pass to CDRECORD... Can someone help by telling me if my /etc/fstab entry is correct, and the command line parameters to use to make the CD burner operate from the command line? Thanks in advance... This has been a frustrating problem! -drew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dvorak on Linux
I agree with most of Dvorak's comments. I am concerned that if Linux were to follow such a direction it would lose that personality that attracts me to using and playing with it. I use XP too, but it is like picking up a shovel, driving the car to the store for milk. and similar. I don't get a thrill in doing these things I just do them and get them done. Would love a standard, but you can only have so much when people feel threaten with changes in the things they prefer or enjoy. People can be difficult and difficult people are troublesome. - Original Message - From: Charles Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]; TLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: [newbie] Dvorak on Linux John Dvorak has an interesting piece entitled Is Linux Your Next OS? at http://www.pcmag.com/article/0,2997,s=1500a=23172,00.asp As usual, there are some things in there that border on the outrageous, but I thought that some might find it interesting. Regards, Chuck -- Charles Muller Toyo Gakuen University Digital Dictionary of Buddhism and CJK-English Dictionary www.acmuller.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Audio CD in TAO mode
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 08:04, Tom Brinkman wrote: The only GUI frontend to cdrecord I've found that's reliable is Gcombust. On the Mandrake news group most seem to favor Eroaster, but I tried burning a 700mb CD from files that I had just made a CD with Gcombust, and Eroaster failed. So... oTry with gcombust (it's probly already installed) oTry without BURN-Proof ocdrecord doesn't seem to like your media either. The right code for Ritek cdr's is 22, not 81 as reported. Try using a different media than the one you're using. o If you're usin older versions of cdrecord and mkisofs, try updating. I've had no problems with.. cdrecord-cdda2wav-1.11-0.a13.4mdk cdrecord-1.11-0.a13.4mdk cdrecord-devel-1.11-0.a13.4mdk mkisofs-1.15-0.a13.4mdk cdrdao-1.1.5-6mdk -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Tom, Just recently have I started experimenting with CDRW frontends. I just tried gcombust per your advice, and it blows xcdroast away. Thanks! Best Regards, LX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] IDE CD Burner installation/use?
Title: RE: [newbie] IDE CD Burner installation/use? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:51 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] IDE CD Burner installation/use? I've got a LiteOn LTR-12101B IDE CD BURNER installed, but I cannot burn to the CD... There was a CD reader installed before (and it worked fine). I want to use the excellent MONDO/MINDI (http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/) as a system backup tool from the command line. I'd also like the burner to work from within X, but my main concern is that it burns from the command line, since the machine is primarily a server. HardDrake 0.9.3 reports the burner under CD-ROMS as Unknown LITE-ON LTR-12101B (the Unknown is for the Vendor), Device /dev/hdc, with a Bus Type of ATAPI/IDE. My /etc/fstab entry for the CD is: /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,nosuid,noauto,user,exec,codepage=850,nodev 0 0 ...but I don't know for sure if that's right for the burner. It was what was in there when the previous CD reader was installed. So, what I've been trying to do is to use Mondo/Mindi to create a test CD image (saved as an iso file), which I would then like to burn to the CD burner using CDRECORD (the tool specified by Mondo/Mindi). I don't know what command line parameters to pass to CDRECORD... Can someone help by telling me if my /etc/fstab entry is correct, and the command line parameters to use to make the CD burner operate from the command line? Thanks in advance... This has been a frustrating problem! -drew Drew, the fstab entry is showing ro for read only, and should be rw IIRC. Also go to your lilo config and add at append line hdc=ide-scsi That should link the cdrw to the scsi emulation. Run /sbin/lilo from command line and then I think you have to reboot. That should then allow you to burn.
Re: [newbie] OT - PC building help
just thought i would add my two cents... i run an abit bp6 dual machine. it is very stable now that i removed my piece of #$$% HP cd burner. but, while i was fighting with it, i had some similar weird symptoms you mention, like if i edited the bios settings, generally the machine would hang after save and exit. needing a power reset. every once in awhile, if i have had it turned off (doesn't happen often), when i start it up by power on, it won't boot until i give it a reset then away it goes. i think this is specific to this mb, but something related to the video card not initialising correctly. things for you to check: are you running the most current revision of the bios? your power supply is stable and delivering the correct voltages? what size of supply are you running? i too have heard of the AMD chips being somewhat hungry and sensitive to dirty power. i know i haven't helped much other than i feel for you brother! been there, done that. made me crazy for awhile too. good luck! :-) moose. On March 18, 2002 10:48 am, you wrote: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade problem
Mandrake Newbie wrote: Hello Linux gurus, I've been trying to upgrade my default kernel-2.4.8 of my Mandrake 8.1 to a newer version but with no luck. I don't know what's the matter that everytime I installed a newer kernel version, I can't boot from it. I am using XFS for my /usr, /home, /tmp, /opt, etc. and ext2 for my /boot and / partitions. Anybody knows how to upgrade a newer kernel version using XFS and ext2 filesystems and give me their how-to's? Thank you in advance. Just a newbie... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well you don't update newer kernels, you _install_ them. Download and rpm -ivh kernelname The name is different so it will install alongside the older kernel and be bootable. Updating usually leaves you with a new kernel and modules compiled for an older one, which is a sad situation. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] best news reader and ftp client
On Monday 18 March 2002 07:42 am, FLYNN, Steve wrote: Rather than using Pan for binary newsgroups, try bnr (Binary News Reaper). There is a Win version and a Linux version available. It;s really is very very good for binary newsgroups. http://www.bnr.com (I think!) http://www.co.jyu.fi/~ap/bnr.htmlworks better ;) THANKS, I always appreciate links, I googled 'Binary News Reaper') to new software options, specially those that run on Windoze and Linux. I believe cross platform development is a good thing for Linux, for everybody. I've got some questions tho. I visited the site and looked for info that's important to me. BNR is free beer, but is it free speech?, ie, is the source included, or is it binaries in a .gz wrapper? I d/l'd the BRN2.gz file but it won't open (I'll try again some other time, it was just released today). If it's closed source binary only, I don't want the headaches, nor wish 'em on anybody else. GPL ? or is it free (beer) till it's finished, then commercial? I looked at the features link and it supports many of the same features as Pan, but I didn't see retry/resume/don't give up til ya get 'em all even thru reboots or broken connections. ? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas -Original Message- From: Tom Brinkman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 10:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [newbie] best news reader and ftp client On Sunday 17 March 2002 02:44 pm, Jose Mirles wrote: For a newsreader, most have recommended PAN or KNODE. I still use Forte Agent in a Win4Lin session. For FTP, I love gftp. I think it beats anything in the windows world. IMNSHO, News: Knode for discussion groups (also way ahead of whatever was in second place in a recent Web survey). Pan for unattended auto d/l'g from binary groups with resume/retry when needed even if you should happen to shutdown your system and re-boot. IOW's, pick a bunch of stuff and go to bed ;) FTP: by far, nt (Webdownloader for X) is the very best, also supports resume/retry when needed even if you shutdown your system and re-boot, and/or switch mirrors. Very quick and simple to use. Also displays connection rate, both graphically and numerically. Probly the only d/l butler on the planet that can successfully get Mandrake ISO's over a = 56k connection ;) all the above are on your Cd's if not already installed -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
Mandrake Newbie wrote: Hello Linux gurus, Is it okay to put up a firewall, router and proxy servers/packages, all in one computer? Can you give me your recommended packages and what's their individual use, for this kind of setup? Also, can you give your how-to's in setting up this kind of setup? Thank you in advance. God bless you all... Just a newbie... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] stopped jobs
Greetings When I attempt to run a kill %PID on a stopped job, nothing happens. I get no error, but a ps x |more shows the job still there. What can I do about this? How can I restart the job again? -- °°° Mandrake Linux 8.1 Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk KDE 2.2.1 Sylpheed 0.7.2 David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Homepagewww.davidlsteiner.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to Install Alternative Kernel
On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 03:00, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:04:32 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently downloaded an updated kernel version 2.4.8-26mdk.rpm which is said to be suited to LM8.1 . How can I install this without overwriting my existing kernel version k2.4.8-19mdk in /boot partition. When I went to install it using RPM package manager I am sure it was going to overwrite so I chose to leave it. I want to install kv2.4.8-16mdk in the same /boot partition as old kernel version and work out a Lilo boot script to boot it.So I bet it isn't that simple ? Can I do this ? cd to the directory to which you downloaded the kernel. Su to root and do: rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.8-16mdk.rpm Using any editor open /etc/lilo.conf Verify that the new kernel image listing was created that the initrd= is correct and that the append options are also correct. If you wish for the new kernel to be the default edit the 4th line of lilo.conf to read default= 248-16 Save the change and exit the editor. From the terminal, still as root, enter: lilo This writes your new lilo and on your next boot you will have the option to boot to either of your installed kernels with the -18 being the default. Just so that you can see one that has been altered several time I have attached a copy of mine. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com It's also a good idea at the time you check the LILO settings, to do a ls -l /boot and look at what is linked to what. Pay particular attention to any flashing filenames as that indicates a broken link. I have found that sometimes, installing a new kernel has resulted in both a new entry in lilo.conf and changes in links which together effectively mean that I lost the ability to boot the old kernel. i.e. One lilo setting was pointing directly at the new kernel and the other was pointing at the old link, but the link had been updated to point at the new kernel. Clear? Maybe not. Here's an example: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.8-26mdk label=linux root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.8-26mdk.img image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.8-34.1mdk label=248-341 root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.8-34.1mdk.img These two extracts from lilo.conf clearly provide the option to boot two different kernels, but if the first one were to read: image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd.img as it did from my original install, the kernel booted depends on where vmlinuz and initrd.img are linked. In my case, installing 2.4.8-34 resulted in the creation of the 248-341 label and relinking of vmlinuz and initrd.img to point at the 2.4.8-34 kernel. In effect, both lilo entries were pointing at the same kernel. That's OK if it works. It didn't and I had to boot in rescue mode to recover. OK, so I'm confused - if you are too, reply to this and I'll try to do a better explanation. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] And their OFF!!!!! 8.2 is now out!!
El lun, 18-03-2002 a las 18:53, David .. escribió: Go and get them _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com whoa!! should have the mail checker open always... looks like they are too busy and timing out.. :o( well anyway this can't be bad, i mean lots of ppl want it. ;o) i hope it's three times the people that used 8.1. they deserve it. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IDE CD Burner installation/use?
Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) wrote: snip I've got a LiteOn LTR-12101B IDE CD BURNER installed, but I cannot burn Can someone help by telling me if my /etc/fstab entry is correct, and the command line parameters to use to make the CD burner operate from the command line? /snip Thanks in advance... This has been a frustrating problem! -drew Well -drew, here's my personal how-to : Most - if not all - CD-burners are ATAPI-devices and use the IDE-bus. To make them work under linux, you must fake that they are SCSI-devices. Now, assuming you have connected your hardware correctly, let's take a look at my setup as an example : My CD-Rom (reader/player) is connected as the master on the second IDE-bus (hdc). My CD-WRITER (burner) is connected as the slave on the second IDE-bus (hdd). Accordingly, I had to edit my file : /etc/lilo.conf to make everything work. Here's how it can be done : 1. open a terminal and become root (type su and, when prompted, type your root-password) 2. open a text-editor of your choice (I prefer Midnight Commander - type : mc) 3. go to /etc/lilo.conf and hit F4 to edit that file. 4. here you must make an append-statement (a boot-parameter to linux), like this : image=/boot/vmlinuz label=Linux root=/dev/hda2 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append= hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi devfs=nomount vga=791 read-only # (where hdc is my CD-reader and hdd is my CD-burner (eventually, put in your own configuration)). 5. hit F2 to save this file. 6. hit F10 to exit Midnight Commander 7. still in your terminal-window as root, type : /sbin/lilo (and watch the output). 8. type exit twice. 9. reboot, and you are done ! - (Eventually, you can now check the file /etc/fstab) Enjoy ! A very easy-readable guide on CD-burning : http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/January2002/article227.shtml References : CD Writing Howto: http://linuxdoc.org Linux MP3 CD Burning mini-HOWTO: http://linuxdoc.org (How to make normal audio CDs from mp3 files ) USB CD howto: http://mobilix.org/linux_usb_cd.html Kaj Haulrich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] File size limit exceeded
Hi, I mucked something up when trying to setup Bastille firewall. I used InteractiveBastille, there were a lot of questions. I answered all the best I could. Here's whats happening: Now when I try to su - and enter the passwd, I get the File size limit exceeded. How can I fix this? Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world style
I have ADD, please keep your posts to 2 paragraphs or less. Sheesh. Anyway, just being a dork. Thought I'd say I can't be bothered to read all that. And I'm sure there are others here who agree. Femme john rigby wrote: Hi Todd folks, Explaining value: How much money do you think charities would receive if the big numbers weren't tax deductible? Many years ago a friend of mine who thought he knew marketing ( was a famous expert) went into professional fund-raising. Lasted 3 months. Yet, it is the little people that DO make real charities work. They just don't have the money... BUT if you give them an option to buy something that is actually useful as well, they do, they do. Some genius in Oz many years ago came up with the idea of the Lion's Club Xmas Cake. Even I used to buy a couple .. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which firewall?, small OT
As an aside, I know the site says SNF will NOT run on a 486. However its an 486sx * i think * compaq. Now I have 78mb of ram in it, might be able to put 128 in ... not sure. Will the ram help or am I still fubared ? :) Just thought I'd ask. Femme civileme wrote: Well, for standalones, there is smoothwall and also Mandrake SNF (single network firewall), but they are standalones, designed for a machine by themselves, one between your network and the internet. For a small firewall that will work directly on your machine, load Bastille (four modules) from the CD and run it, either Bastille-Interactive or the Tk version--the Tk is a GUI. If you are using multiple machines and can put one on your internet connection, SNF is hard to beat. You install it on one machine and configure it using a web browser from another machine. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 Blackbox logout problem
Session WindowManagers Exit Miark On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:01:32 -0500 (EST), Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: I don't know if I should submit this as a bug report or not, but has anyone else noticed that on the menu on blackbox (where you right click to get a floating menu), it no longer has the Exit (logout) option at the bottom? Now to get out of it, I have to Cntl-Alt-Backspace. Is there a better way of doing this? -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Connection sharing reconfiguration.
OK I have bastille installed... now how to I use this interactive setup ;) Haven't looked for it, not knowing where to look...so just point i'll click. Femme Brian Parish wrote: Wei, The easiest way to fix this is to install a proper firewall setup, which is a good move anyway. I found that this went away after I installed Interactive Bastille. Somewhere in the default network setup on LM, IP forwarding gets turned off, probably by the default firewall. If you set up a firewall intentionally, and specify that IP forwarding is to be allowed, this problem is bypassed. There are many firewalls to choose from, but if you just want to share your internet connection and keep the black hats out, Interactive Bastille is easy and teaches you some stuff along the way. (It's on your distro CDs). gShield has also been mentioned as an exceptionally easy one to set up, but I haven't tried that personally. HTH Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
On Monday 18 March 2002 07:36, you wrote: One thing I don't understand is how people have interpreted Mandrakesoft's request for people to join the Mandrake Club as a plea for charity to keep an ailing company afloat. It is no such thing. The Mandrakesoft web page clearly shows Mandrake's financial details (as a public company, this is mandatory). They expect a profit by the end of the year, but at their current cash burn rate (which isn't extravagant, BTW) they can't do so without making some redundancies. This is how I interpreted the press release: While we are on track to post a profit by year-end, this cannot currently be done without losing some valuable employees. These members have made a substantial contribution towards the development of free software both within and outside of Mandrakesoft, and we would like to continue sponsoring them so that they can continue this fine work. To achieve this, we kindly request that Mandrake users join the Mandrake Club (http://www.mandrakeclub.com/). A standard Mandrake Club membership only costs $US5 a month and offers supurb value for money (http://mandrakelinux.com/en/club/). In addition to these benefits, you will be helping to support the continued development of the best GNU/Linux distribution around. I like the way you phrased it better. It makes a lot of sense. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File size limit exceeded
Dr Joe Brand wrote: Hi, I mucked something up when trying to setup Bastille firewall. I used InteractiveBastille, there were a lot of questions. I answered all the best I could. Here's whats happening: Now when I try to su - and enter the passwd, I get the File size limit exceeded. How can I fix this? Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Boot and escape the regular LILO/GRUB menu and linux single That will get you up without the firewall and logged in as root in a console. Now go to /etv/security/limits.conf and see the file size limit line and change it to 400 or something even more obscene. There is a spurious /tmp file geerated in going to root via su in the earlier kernels which is very large but does not actually exist. Anyway, the file size limit catches it and gigs you. Oh yes, you will need to use a text-based editor, emacs or vi, or jed, joe, pico or nano if you have them installed. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix error message
Thank you for your help. I did check the diskspace and it has plenty of space available. However, I figured out the problem and I would like to share with everybody here. Two days ago I install a guestbook cgi in my Apache web server. One thing I did not know is that every time when someone signed the guestbook, it will sent a notice email to the web master I set up in the Apache setting. The way it send the email is put a message in /var/spool/postfix/maildrop Unfortunately, this folder is not own by Apache and it did not allow world to write in the directory. So, how do I solve the problem? I change the permission to world writable. I know it probably is not a good idea for security reason, so I am looking if any of you expert can give me some advice. Daniel Daniel Chen wrote: These messages repeated almost 1000 times in my syslog. It made paranoid. Can anybody tell me what may go wrong with my Postfix? Thank you! Daniel, Well, I guess almost anything can go wrong with Postfix ;-). However, with no real knowledge of Postfix, the first thing I'd do is check your diskspace -- have any partitions filled up recently, especially in /var? Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Willing to run Dragon Plus MB
Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas wrote: FWIW === This I don't know yet! What does it mean? For What Its Worth. Sort of like saying, In my opinion it may not be worth much... My concern on cooling is not only on the cpu itself but, as we've just got thru a compulsory energy saving period (in Brazil we had a quota of Kwats/month plus fine and 48 hours without power at all on the second notice!!!), so air conditioning... just for keeping the dust ;-(. It happened once... so it can happen again! So the cooling should be to provide ventilation enough to keep things under control Get a server case add Internal fans *a couple of good ones that provide airflow will do, 80 mm is fine.* If you need a decent airflow design ideas/examples I can post some links if you like. HTH Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix error message
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:59:48 -0500, Daniel Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: Two days ago I install a guestbook cgi in my Apache web server. One thing I did not know is that every time when someone signed the guestbook, it will sent a notice email to the web master I set up in the Apache setting. The way it send the email is put a message in /var/spool/postfix/maildrop Unfortunately, this folder is not own by Apache and it did not allow world to write in the directory. How, more specifically, is Apache trying to put messages in there? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - PC building help
Roger Sherman wrote: well IMO I've built several PC's you have a definite problem. If I may ask, is that the old case Powersupply that came with it? I know you said you swapped PW's, but...how big is that PW? 250 watts won't cut it. Get the biggest you can afford this is one area in PC's where more $ usually means better hardware. Powersupplies that are crappy also weigh less. If you can, take 2 that are the same output stuff. Put one in one hand, the other in the other hand. Weigh them. The heavier one is the better one. Why? Because they don't use cheap electronics, more fans more circuit board stuff. I would recommend a 350 watt PS minimum. Preferably one that will clean the input electricity too. It helps a helluva lot. Other than that, I take it cooling isn't an issue? Do you have 2 case fans at least in there ? One on the Hard drives one at the back letting air out help. *Not expensive, maybe $10 tops for 2 or 3 of them*. Femme Now, I've tried several things to fix the problem - a friend told me the symptoms are indicative of a hardware incompatability, so I changed the HD, the CD-ROM (which is why I have the DVD player in there - I originally had a Plextor CD-RW), the power supply, and I took out the SoundBlaster and nic card (a linksys nic), although I put those two back in, since it didn't seem to make a difference. I also tried disconnecting the floppy drive. Before I replaced the HD and CD-RW, they effectively stopped working with this PC, and I'm worried what's currently in there will stop working as well, as every time I make a change, things seem to get a little better, but never really work right, and then things degenerate. I don't have anything else I can swap into this box, so if it continues to degenerate with the current config, I'll have to stop using it until I can afford to take it to a PC doctor. Again, sorry for the OT post, but any help anyone can offer would be hugely appreciated. -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] In a world of geeks......... :-)
On Sunday 17 March 2002 22:00, John R typed: http://rute.sourceforge.net/rute.html The cute thing is enormous! Looks great! Needs an already installed WORKING Linux to even read the Manual !!! Ha Ha Ha Ha..sigh- --- Monday 18 March 2002 -- 18:15hrs cst Look around some more John...there is a copy of rute for download in PDF form that you can read in MS windows with the adobe reader...I have a copy someplace in one of my defunct ms systems...but I remember reading it in ms.. luck -- Olly P. Biloxi Mississippi Linux MDK 8.0 and 2.4.3-20 mdk Kmail 2.1.1 ATX Plll 600mhz Asus CUBX ...384m PC133ram Mon Mar 18 18:19:55 EST 2002 6:19pm up 8 days, 15:21, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.01 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SCSI dialog box problem Linux-Mandrake 7.2
Hi There, I'm installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD. I get to the Setup Filesystems section. A dialog box pops up asking Do you have any SCSI Interface? I do not so I click No. The dialog box keeps popping up and I can't get past it. I'm installing it on a P-II 233mhz machine w/ 295MB of RAM. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Joel - Qualcomm, Eudora Mail Pro 5.1 - Joel Viney[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 5512737 AIM: LdEaldred Federal Way, WA Hans 1957 VW Karmann Ghia Wolfgang 1971 VW Westfalia Camper Der Krieglastwagen Goro1995 Nissan Pickup http://home.earthlink.net/~aldredmac/ The voice of God, if you really want to know, is Aretha Franklin. - Marianne Faithful ___ Want cheap long distance calling? Try 10 - 10 - Pi The more digits you dial, the greater the savings!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] stopped jobs
El lun, 18-03-2002 a las 18:27, David escribió: Greetings When I attempt to run a kill %PID on a stopped job, nothing happens. I get no error, but a ps x |more shows the job still there. What can I do about this? How can I restart the job again? usually this means that you have no permissions to kill/restart that process. su to root and try again. hth Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which firewall?, small OT
FemmeFatale wrote: As an aside, I know the site says SNF will NOT run on a 486. However its an 486sx * i think * compaq. Now I have 78mb of ram in it, might be able to put 128 in ... not sure. Will the ram help or am I still fubared ? :) Just thought I'd ask. Femme civileme wrote: Well, for standalones, there is smoothwall and also Mandrake SNF (single network firewall), but they are standalones, designed for a machine by themselves, one between your network and the internet. For a small firewall that will work directly on your machine, load Bastille (four modules) from the CD and run it, either Bastille-Interactive or the Tk version--the Tk is a GUI. If you are using multiple machines and can put one on your internet connection, SNF is hard to beat. You install it on one machine and configure it using a web browser from another machine. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ummm, well SNF is available as source as well--easy to compile for 486 if you like. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System Getting Sluggish
El dom, 17-03-2002 a las 13:45, jquandt3 escribió: Well, I have the same problem on occasion. I cannot say if it is related to being online since I have a cable connection, but RAM is not my problem. I have 512 MB DDR and my system never touches the swap file. I intentionally tried to make it hit the swap file and had a hard time getting it below 150 MB. Similar symptoms to the previous message. Everything slows down to a crawl until reboot. it takes 2 mins for the clock icon to leave a program opening in KDE and then it may not actually pop up for another 30 sec to 1 min. Even if I just want to open a terminal. It does not seem to be related to length of logon time, as it has occurred soon after a reboot and after several hours. Thanks, Jeff - Original Message - From: Gerald Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] System Getting Sluggish On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, cervix couch wrote: %_ I've been having a problem in Linux and I have no idea where to look for the culprit. My problem is that, periodically, while I'm online (and only when I'm online), the system will get extremely sluggish to the point where I usually have to power down and reboot. When this happens, there are sounds like there's a lot of hard disk activity going on and it never stops. I've tried unplugging the modem, but it doesn't do any good. Does anyone know why this happens? THRASHING!!! You need more RAM Linux is trying to run swapping everything back and forth to the hard drive -- Gerald Waugh i may have a penny to add to this thread. but before i start babbling, i have a question for everyone getting a sluggish system after a while. are you all running KDE? see ya. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world style
Hi Sridhar and folks again, You are actually selling my case, again, my friend. Everybody and his dog have already tried to make this unworkable thing go and there has been a 100% failure. Look around. Now look at Microsoft. A company flogging a set of products that even the front-end user has become enraged with and they are about to REALLY sock it to us.. ME and my millions of non-geek compatriots. What are our real world choices? 1. Stay and be . you-know-what-ed 2. Go to the Fruit? ... An absurd but very successful Religion built on the most atrocious lies. BUT great Advertising/PR. ( Great margins for the resellers, too who sorta illegally, in my opinion for most countries, agree not show them against anything else!) Amazing over-pricing. They could if they wanted, quadruple their marketshare, but who wants to?? It would mean cutting margins - poo to that! 3. The *X world. Now, the big corporate users are well catered for - even Bill's Billions haven't help him make a dent there. He just hasn't got the product and knows it, but he knows that the IT world is dumbing down, too. So that leaves the small business person and the domestic user. There is not a single, sensible product out there oriented toward the needs of the 90 million and the 300 million in the wings. I know because I and many, many people I know are still there, still trying. AND that is not even the highly experienced group I'm talking about - people like me who can not even understand the Manual. (Even though it has little to do with the actual product or components of the moment) Until somebody who understands PL Statements and can write them a Business Plan does so, the future of Mandrake is decidedly grim. I will take bets on it -sadly. I want it to work, but 30 years of international business experience- many as a last chance consultant - tells me that this future is clear. Simple arithmetic. Folks, skip the rhetoric, the Religious fervour, give me some hope based on some sensible numbers. What we need are some Cost Accountants here... :-) Cheers, Him Again Still with time on his hands - the last attempt at installing M8.0 fell over yesterday on my techo friends machine, too. - Original Message - From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world style You seem to be applying closed-source pricing policies to something that is free (as in speech). Why would one pay $100 for a Mandrake server when the source is free? Someone can compile this source code and bingo: free (as in speech and in beer) Mandrake, which can be legally distributed to millions of people. Otherwise, they could just download Debian or Red Hat. Sure, Mandrake could make proprietary aplications like Suse does (and note that Suse is in financial difficulty while Red Hat isn't), but that would destroy Mandrakesoft's reputation in the GNU/Linux community. Mandrakesoft is a free software company through to the core. In this way it is almost like Debian, and it is the principal reason why myself and many others like the company. Estranging the developer community would just create a slow-developing and unpopular distro like Caldera OpenLinux (which used to be amongst the most popular). I like Mandrake. I respect Mandrakesoft. But if they move to a restrictive pricing policy like that of Suse or Caldera, I will switch to a free (as in speech) distro like Debian or Gentoo. On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:46:14 +1000, john rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Todd folks, Explaining value: How much money do you think charities would receive if the big numbers weren't tax deductible? Many years ago a friend of mine who thought he knew marketing ( was a famous expert) went into professional fund-raising. Lasted 3 months. Yet, it is the little people that DO make real charities work. They just don't have the money... BUT if you give them an option to buy something that is actually useful as well, they do, they do. Some genius in Oz many years ago came up with the idea of the Lion's Club Xmas Cake. Even I used to buy a couple .. I don't even believe in Free Trials. I believe in guarantees. Moneyback ones. Who could run a business today without them? In most civilised countries they are mandatory. If *anyone* could download a *demo* of Mandrake, that too is different. THAT would be very smart. AND small. It would have to demo a full replacement for THAT other one's suite - that's all. That's all means just that. Not one in a million - literally- of the potential users out there would even ever know what a Server was. Would ever use the utils. For true Geeks, the legion of Masochists who like developing\getting broken by these things, by all means they should be able to play with kernels etc. to
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
john rigby wrote: Hi Sridhar folks, Unfortunately this whole thing is enough for me to almost rest my case! Mandrake seems to be composed of nice people - Geeks one and all. There are certainly no people from the hard world there. This Company doesn't even have the excuse that its owners shot through with the money and bought a few corporate jets! It has actually being trying to make a good product! Like a good mouse-trap. It won't happen. It can't win. Otherwise it would be at least making a decent wage for its seemingly fanatical employees! All the corporation needs to do is get some marketing nouse in to the system. THERE IS NO COMPETITION. My friend who sells those monstrocities called Apple told me the other day he cannot believe it. He is making money hand over fist from them - and they are like Lemmings. They actually *bring* their mothers and sisters and Ministers into his shop. He has a Network system hidden out the back - because it is running on 25% of the cost PC's and Linux -one expensive(!) Apple terminalout front to show the big world of the Internet. Works for some. this idea of making money as well. Cheers? John OK enough pontification. The fact is that your solution is untenable. The only assets a software companyy has are its people. The people at Mandrake make the company, and the fact that they are part of alinux community seems to have escaped you. Do you really expect to pull an apple off a grape vine? Mandrakesoft would have to be changed down to the roots to make what you suggest happen, and then without the authors of the tools, they would have to pick up and go on. So start your own company and see if you can find engineers who will take the -free- Mandrakesoft product and make it closed source. And best of luck to you. I won't help, and I doubt if you will find a handful of people associated with the Mandrakesoft effort who will. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Higher priority for XMMS
The nice scale consists of all the integers running between -20 and 20, inclusive. Lower numbers have a higher priority in the system scheduler. By default, all applications run with a nice value of 0. An ordinary user is able to 'nice' to any value = 0. Anything below zero is only accessible by a root user. This means that an ordinary user who wants to allocate more CPU time to a process must reduce the priority of their other running processes. This system is in place to prevent a user from monopolising system resources. On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 13:22:53 -, FLYNN, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think so - any user can nice their own running tasks so nicer nice values (i.e. any user can say, this program I am running, it's low priority so don't spend too much effort on running it for me) but only root has the power to do the opposite (i.e. lower the nice value to make the scheduler spend more time on this piece of code). -Original Message- From: Nelson Bartley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 5:58 PM To: LM Newbie Mailing List Subject:RE: [newbie] Higher priority for XMMS so there is no way to give a higher priority to the program from within a non-root account? On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 10:36, FLYNN, Steve wrote: You can 'nice' the task, to a lower value to give it more cpu cycles. However, to do so, you will have to be root anyway. It's easy enough to do with the sudo command though... -Original Message- From: Nelson Bartley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 3:29 PM To: LM Newbie Mailing List Subject:[newbie] Higher priority for XMMS I've got a question.. I've been finding that XMMS is skipping a lot on my system. Not because my system isn't fast, but rather because I've got ALOT of things going on on it. (folding, evolution, gaim, gkrellm, mozilla, kdevelop, gnomeicu, etc...) I was wondering if it were posible to give XMMS a higher priority (like say realtime)? (and yes I realize I can log in as root and run the app, but that is very annoying) NB File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 -- Sridhar Dhanapalan It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it. -- Governor George W. Bush, Jr. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world style
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:41:03 -0700 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have ADD, please keep your posts to 2 paragraphs or less. Sheesh. Anyway, just being a dork. Thought I'd say I can't be bothered to read all that. And I'm sure there are others here who agree. Femme I agree! I'm thinking we need a mandrake-business-strategies or mandrake-business-plan discussion list, which I would be the first not to join ;-) -- Todd Slater Everywhere I go I'm asked if I think the university stifles writers. My opinion is that they don't stifle enough of them. There's many a bestseller that could have been prevented by a good teacher. (Flannery O'Connor) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] how to create a logout message?
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:17:01 +0200 Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Todd, Todd Slater wrote: I have edited the file /etc/profile so that users get a message when logging in. What file would I edit so that all users receive a bye-bye message when they log out? I can do it per individual user, but is there a universal file like /etc/profile? Gracias, Todd I would also be interested if someone gave you a solution or you managed to find out howto. appreciated I have not found out how to do this on a system-wide basis yet. I searched for a little bit, then got tired and forgot about it. Perhaps I'll investigate more later on. Todd -- Todd Slater If the Aborigine drafted an I.Q. test, all of Western civilization would presumably flunk it. (Stanley Garn) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
Mandrake Newbie wrote: Hello Linux gurus, Is it okay to put up a firewall, router and proxy servers/packages, all in one computer? Can you give me your recommended packages and what's their individual use, for this kind of setup? Also, can you give your how-to's in setting up this kind of setup? Thank you in advance. God bless you all... Just a newbie... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I have another suggestion Fix your system time. I am getting letters before you mail them. (and after dealing with 37 inches of snow in 24 hours, I am likely to be mildly amused by that) Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] XSANE UMAX Astra 2000p
I need some help here. After upgrading the kernel to 2.4.18-5mdk, my UMAX Astra 2000p don't work at all. I only get the following message: [root@localhost root]# scanimage --list -devices [umax_pp_low] Found 0x18 expected 0x00 (umax_pp_low.c:4374) [umax_pp_low] Unexpected value for for register 0x0D, expected 0x00 or 0x40, got 0x18 ! (umax_pp_low.c:4445) [umax_pp_low] EPPRegisterRead, found 0xFF expected 0x00 (umax_pp_low.c:4536)[umax_pp_low] *** It appears that EPP data transfer doesn't work*** [umax_pp_low] *** Please read SETTING EPP section in sane-umax_pp.5 *** Violación de segmento (Segmentation fault) The BIOS config is set as sane-umax_pp.5 document recommend: EPP/1.7/378/IRQ7 Changing this to: EPP/1.9 or to ECP, or to NORMAL, or to ECP/EPP 1.7 ot to 1.9, give me the same error. Any idea? Thks Carlos Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
On Monday 18 March 2002 20:54, you wrote: john rigby wrote: Hi Sridhar folks, Unfortunately this whole thing is enough for me to almost rest my case! Mandrake seems to be composed of nice people - Geeks one and all. There are certainly no people from the hard world there. This Company doesn't even have the excuse that its owners shot through with the money and bought a few corporate jets! It has actually being trying to make a good product! Like a good mouse-trap. It won't happen. It can't win. Otherwise it would be at least making a decent wage for its seemingly fanatical employees! All the corporation needs to do is get some marketing nouse in to the system. THERE IS NO COMPETITION. My friend who sells those monstrocities called Apple told me the other day he cannot believe it. He is making money hand over fist from them - and they are like Lemmings. They actually *bring* their mothers and sisters and Ministers into his shop. He has a Network system hidden out the back - because it is running on 25% of the cost PC's and Linux -one expensive(!) Apple terminalout front to show the big world of the Internet. Works for some. this idea of making money as well. Cheers? John OK enough pontification. The fact is that your solution is untenable. The only assets a software companyy has are its people. The people at Mandrake make the company, and the fact that they are part of alinux community seems to have escaped you. Do you really expect to pull an apple off a grape vine? Mandrakesoft would have to be changed down to the roots to make what you suggest happen, and then without the authors of the tools, they would have to pick up and go on. So start your own company and see if you can find engineers who will take the -free- Mandrakesoft product and make it closed source. And best of luck to you. I won't help, and I doubt if you will find a handful of people associated with the Mandrakesoft effort who will. Civileme Never mind about the pontification Civileme. Mr. Rigby appears to be in marketing. That says it all. His mind set is for the masses and that is the same Mindset as M$. Feed them BS and as long as it has a pretty bow on it and has been spayed with Deoderant it will sell like hot cakes. Sorry but I am up past my bed time, hard day at work and tired of hearing Sunday quarterbacks say it can't be done. Needs must tell that to companies like Trane and Carrier who have taken the public domain mathematical formulas of thermodynamics and physics and massaged them, turned them into a very servicable product and made a good living for a lot of people that way. Anyone can access the formulas and chemistry, physics etc of the product, making the product is the trick. And IMHO Mandrakesoft is doing a damned fine job of making a product. The competitors had a head start but Mandrakesoft is closing fast. I have watched it mature since 6.0 and wow is it closing fast. Hang tough MandrakeSoft team. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
On Monday 18 March 2002 19:50, Dennis Myers opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: john rigby wrote: way too much Never mind about the pontification Civileme. Mr. Rigby appears to be in marketing. That says it all. lets just face that fact he 1) has no questions about mandrake or its workings that we can answer and 2) has no answers we want and simply not feed the troll. -- If you can't make it good, at least make it look good. -Bill Gates, 1994 shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
Hello! john rigby wrote: [...] BTW; FOR REAL NEWBIES: NEITHER OF THE LINKS WORK IN SRIDHARS MESSAGE - JUST DROP OFF THE "( )"s That must depend on what browser you use. Everything works fine here (with Netscape on Mandrak 8.1 and on MacOS 9 X). Pascal Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] back orofice for unix flaw discovered in solaris and mandrake 8.0/8.1
there is apparently a back orifice flaw in the way mandrake deals with remote X sessions.. the report is here http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/24447.html the flaw and its solution are detailed here http://www.procheckup.com/security_info/vuln_pr0208.html apologies if this has already been posted mikecola ...Who's the big winner tonight...? Mikey! Mikey wins! Mikey's the big winner...!- Trent Double Down (Vince Vaughn) -- www.pherell.com TECHNO melbourne style. heard it yet? mike thinks you should Your Lowrider Community... http://www.lowrider.com Your Personalized Page Start Page... http://my.lowrider.com - Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
On Monday 18 March 2002 20:15, Pascal opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: That must depend on what browser you use. Everything works fine here (with Netscape on Mandrak 8.1 and on MacOS 9 X). and konq, and opera from kmail. maybe it is just low quality MS programs that screw it up? :-D -- you can have peace or freedom, but never count on both at once -heinlein shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 11:08, sda wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 11:36:50PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: One thing I don't understand is how people have interpreted Mandrakesoft's request for people to join the Mandrake Club as a plea for charity to keep an ailing company afloat. It is no such thing. The Mandrakesoft web page clearly shows Mandrake's financial details (as a public company, this is mandatory). They expect a profit by the end of the year, but at their current cash burn rate (which isn't extravagant, BTW) they can't do so without making some redundancies. This is how I interpreted the press release: You seem to forget that Mandrake promised a profit the 1st quarter of this year. If you believe that `they're on track' you really are self delusional. A company that is on track to make a profit, doesn't hold out it's hand and plea for money. I believe that Sridhar's point was that they are NOT holding out their hands with a plea, they are moving to a subscription model of business; seems to me that YOU are the one that's delusional. You're just seeing what you want to see, or pushing an agenda that you want to push. It's already been stated elsewhere and here the details and advantages of the business plan they have; you're just not reading. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world style
On Sunday 17 March 2002 19:53, Todd Slater opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: But, if Mandrake called in PayPals services and said: $10 for the lot by download in bits. NO FREEBIES, it would work. I would never have downloaded and tried Mandrake if I had had to pay. I was not willing to pay anything to test it out. Now that it is my only OS at home, yea verily sing praises and pass the plate brother! i like suse almost as much as mandrake, but i loaded it once, and will never do so again. damn difficult ftp installer rather than ISO's! and it is still free, just harder to get to. that cost them a customer. i do not buy cars without test drives, do not buy CD's until i have heard at least half the songs on them, and will not buy an OS i can't try first. BUT, i happily buy cars i like after i try them, buy all the CD's from artists whos MP3's i file swaped and like enough to keep on my drive, and give lots of money to my favorite OS. i think those who can not understand the mentality of the linux community, and expect them to pay for nothing, will not last long. those who do understand will get paid if they build a good product. call me polyanna. (I hope the young whipper-snappers out there still listen to Bobby D) does 30 something make me a whipper snapper or an old goat? i can never recall... but i listen from time to time. -- When you say 'I wrote a program that crashed Windows', people just stare at you blankly and say 'Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*'. - Linus Torvalds shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - PC building help
Hey Terry... Yep, just did that. Stripped it down to the bare motherboard, reseated the CPU, RAM, vid card...reconnected the power switch, reset switch, etc. Then I tried starting it up, with basically nothing but the vid card attatched, and it still exhibited the same boot problem, so I guess I'm in the market for a new motherboard. I saw a couple Asus boards on the AMD recommended list that might do the job. Anyone want to make some recommendations for boards that worked well for them? It needs to be a board recommended for an XP1800, that will accept DDR RAM, and no integrated sound or video... On 18 Mar 2002, Terry Smith wrote: Roger, Sorry to hear about your troubles. I had some 'shutdown' problems with my new box also. Turned out to be a bad mobo (which has been replaced - no problems since). One way of debugging these things is to 'simplify'. Disconnect all your peripherals - removable drives, keyboard, floppy, mouse, etc. - everything except the monitor and the boot drive. Does it boot and run? (Obviously you won't be able to do anything). Yes, start adding components and rebooting. No. Swap drives. Try again. No. Swap power supplies. Try again. Well I think you get the drift. Try to isolate the component that's causing the problem. Good luck. Terry Smith Cape Cod, USA On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 08:28, Roger Sherman wrote: Sorry to address this to the list, but I'm at my wits end, and it's either this, or find a service center or something to fix this problem for me, and after building this PC, I really don't have the money. I built a PC about two 1/2 months ago (my first attempt at building a PC), and I'm having a booting problem, and a problem with it freezing up, and I'm hoping someone could help point me in the right direction, troubleshooting wise. First of all, the system configuration: Abit KG-7 motherboard AMD 1800XP 512 Meg DDR RAM ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder 32mg vid card SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 Platinum w/Live Drive 60 gig Maxtor HD generic DVD/CDROM from my old PC, a Compaq presario (which is happily gurgling along as a dedicated FTP server now) Now, it's got a boot problem that is baffling to me - to turn this PC on, I have to press the start button, at which point it sounds like it's starting up, the HD and all the fans start spinning, but I don't get the beep that I get with a successful boot, and there's no video output. So, I then have to turn the PC off, unplug it, and plug it back in - at which point it will usually start up again. Now, I do mean it will start up again just from plugging it in - I don't have to press the start button. But, sometimes I'll plug it in, and it wont start, at which point I'll have to unplug it, then press start, and it seems to discharge a little power. Then I plug it in again, and it will start. Then I get the beep that it's booting correctly, and I get video output and away we go. Now, I'd live with this problem, if it weren't for the system freezes. The first time I turn the PC on each day, there is always a complete freeze of the system - and I totally can't get it unfrozen, either by Control-Alt-Backspace, or Alt-SysRq-r. My only recourse is to press and hold the start button til it shuts down (with this box, you have to hold the start button in for 5 seconds to shut it down, for some reason). Using the reset button doesn't seem to work. This system freeze can happen anywhere, too. Sometimes it'll happen when Mandrake is actually starting up, once it even happened at a command line login (it's set up to start at runlevel 3), but usually it happens about 2 - 3 minutes after the system is up and running...usually after I've started X, and am checking my email. And I can't let it run all day - the PC actually works great once it gets past the booting and system freeze problems (usually the system freeze problem happens one or two times, and then the PC will run properly), but if I get up and walk away for several hours, then come back, of course the monitor will have gone into power save mode, and I jiggle the mouse to wake it up, but at that point for some reason the PC will have stopped giving video output, and I have to start the whole process over again. My ideal situation would be to just leave this PC running 24/7, but that makes it impossible, obviously. Now, I've tried several things to fix the problem - a friend told me the symptoms are indicative of a hardware incompatability, so I changed the HD, the CD-ROM (which is why I have the DVD player in there - I originally had a Plextor CD-RW), the power supply, and I took out the SoundBlaster and nic card (a linksys nic), although I put those two back in, since it didn't seem to make a difference. I also tried disconnecting the floppy drive. Before I replaced the HD and
Re: [newbie] 8.2 Blackbox logout problem
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Miark wrote: Session WindowManagers Exit Aha! Those slippery bastards...;-) Thanks, Miark. Miark On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:01:32 -0500 (EST), Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: I don't know if I should submit this as a bug report or not, but has anyone else noticed that on the menu on blackbox (where you right click to get a floating menu), it no longer has the Exit (logout) option at the bottom? Now to get out of it, I have to Cntl-Alt-Backspace. Is there a better way of doing this? -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
Hello! shane wrote: On Monday 18 March 2002 20:15, Pascal opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: That must depend on what browser you use. Everything works fine here (with Netscape on Mandrak 8.1 and on MacOS 9 X). and konq, and opera from kmail. maybe it is just low quality MS programs that screw it up? :-D That's exactly what I meant! Pascal Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake Update
When I try to add any source from the list of mirrors, I get an error An error occured when adding this source. I have tried each source listed, Cooker and Security (anticipating comments) and got the same reply. Is this an intended feature to keep me from screwing up my box again with needless upgrades? Can I or should I fix it? 8.2Beta4 on AMD 1900 Cable connect is up Lee -- Registered Linux user #223705 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] supporting Mandrake
I don't understand all the fuss. Either give them a whopping $5 a month, or don't. I chose to. I've used Mandrake for a good while and I can spare the $5. It's like one less trip to McDonalds each month. I think I can handle it. Peace, -- Jonathan Dlouhy Tuesday, March 19, 2002 You're talking to someone who really understands rock music --Tipper Gore Registered Linux user #264482 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT - PC building help
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 08:58, Roger Sherman wrote: I had a similar problem with my laptop after upgrading the RAM. Be sure that your RAM is fully and securely seated in their slots. Bill Thanks Bill...I actually had to take a great deal of care with the RAM...this board seems to be incredibly sensitive to how the RAM is seated. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the problem. peace, Rog Roger, I think Damian is on the right track with the RAM replacement approach. If you could get a known good ram module, you might be able to make some progress in your diagnosis. I assume that your bios is at it's defaults and you haven't make any changes to the processor speeds (overclocking, etc). ? HTH LX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update
Lee wrote: When I try to add any source from the list of mirrors, I get an error An error occured when adding this source. I have tried each source listed, Cooker and Security (anticipating comments) and got the same reply. Is this an intended feature to keep me from screwing up my box again with needless upgrades? Can I or should I fix it? 8.2Beta4 on AMD 1900 Cable connect is up Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Nope tis a bug of Beta4 that was recognized as soon as the Beta hit the mirrors and updates were offere4d but only by DLing rpms from cooker. Civileme P.S. 8.2 final is out and has no such problem Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Which firewall?
In windows you need a firewall software, in Linux you don't. Linux has IPTables which is built into the system/kernel if you have it installed. 'rpm -q iptables' will tell you if you have it installed. The firewall is different to Windows as much as the firewall is defined by a set of rules. You will need to understand a little about what services you need, port 110/pop3 etc. But with a basic setup you can 'drop' all inbound request unless the inbound traffic was initiated by a request from inside your box. I posted to either the newbie/expert list a couple of months ago a basic rules list explaining each section basically. Other options are scripts which build the rules based on a number of questions you are asked. Options include 'Bastille project' but remember that the best firewall is the one where you wrote the rules. Do not be put off by the thought of learning a little scripting, get the HOWTO on IPTables, look in the archive for these mailing lists, and put your own together. ;-)= HTH, Dave Orinal Message: Hi there: Well thanks all of you guys for your answers about the WINE thing. I really didn't expect to learn about WINE so much in just one day. I went to the codeweavers website and downloaded the Demo version. It really works nice and it met my expectations. If I'm am going to learn Linux with this pace, I will definitely delete my windows partition soon. I have another question. When I used to use Windows, I used a Firewall called Zone Alarm. It really was a fine product. It was freeware and it gave me the security that I needed. Now I want to use a firewall in Linux and I don't know what to use and how to use it. The best part about Zone Alarm was that it was very easy to setup and use. I have a dial up connection so I don't have a static IP address and zone alarm did provide the security that I needed ( It passed Steve Gibson's test at www.grc.com and that is all I need) I know that there are plenty of firewalls out there but they seem to be for experts. is there any easy to use firewall for Linux? if so where can I get it? again maybe a URL will help. Thanks Linux registered user # 266090 Aryan mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 01:32 am, you wrote: Lee wrote: When I try to add any source from the list of mirrors, I get an error An error occured when adding this source. I have tried each source listed, Cooker and Security (anticipating comments) and got the same reply. Is this an intended feature to keep me from screwing up my box again with needless upgrades? Can I or should I fix it? 8.2Beta4 on AMD 1900 Cable connect is up Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Nope tis a bug of Beta4 that was recognized as soon as the Beta hit the mirrors and updates were offere4d but only by DLing rpms from cooker. Civileme P.S. 8.2 final is out and has no such problem Thanks Civileme, 8.2 Final, it is. Hats off to the Mandrake Team. Ya'll never cease to amaze me. Beta4 installed with ease. Should be a snap to upgrade from here..right? Lee -- Registered Linux user #223705 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] supporting Mandrake
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 01:06 am, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: I don't understand all the fuss. Either give them a whopping $5 a month, or don't. I chose to. I've used Mandrake for a good while and I can spare the $5. It's like one less trip to McDonalds each month. I think I can handle it. Peace, I'll second that. Seems like the choice is simple. Support a dynamic team of people dedicated to pushing our artform to science, or send your ransom to Redmond. I don't do McDonalds though. Guess I'll give up something else. Hmmm Lee -- Registered Linux user #223705 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which File system?
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 21:12, civileme wrote: Ext2 I ran three times under each mode and came up with the same results (nearly). The one thsat others suggested to me as the fastest turned out to be the slowest. Yes, i have run sledgehammer on IDE, on SCSI and on seven different processors, including a PPro dual system running SMP. The verdict is that ext3 is slow, about 60-70% of ext2, while Reiserfs, XFS and ext2 are all comparable, and JFS is out in front except it takes more storage and needs defragmentation as a separate process. Your results with ext3 as compared against ext2 might explain somewhat why I haven't noticed alot of difference, although not totally. For one thing, I still don't know what ext3 journaling mode you were using for the tests. For another thing, I also still don't know what the minimum size for XFS filesystems are. 20 meg? 30? 40? I've looked, but have not been able to find that information anywhere. The reason I'm interested is because I'm considering using XFS when I migrate my configuration/data to LM82. Your tests have me interested. Concerning XFS minimum partition size...if you don't know, have you got an idea of where to go to find out? Withint two weeks I will have my site back up and the timed version of Filesystem Sledgehammer set up downloadable for everyone to try. The only caveat is that only Mandrake kernels really run XFS as it should be run, because XFS does require some significant kernel changes. Sounds like another feather in Mandrake's cap.I look forward to running the benchmarks on this system. And sorry about the postscript. I was typing after a very long day. Civileme No problem. I am just grateful that *someone* is doing public filesystem tests. So a heartfelt thanks is in order. Best Regards, LX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
