Re: [newbie-it] Problemi col Cd: senza allegati :)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 30 January 2003 18:21, you wrote: Ciao! Purtroppo per non so che motivo non riesco apostarvi i due files che mi avevate chiesto per vedere che cosa fosse successo nel mio sistema (ricordate i miei vecchi post?) Ho copiato da consolle i due files, ma non ci sono nel floppy Domani spero di postarveli Nel frattempo ho invertito master e slave: in questo modo qualcosa è migliorato. Ora, infatti, posso fare il bbot con il masterizzatore Il Lettore Cd, invece, contnua a non essere visto E non ci sono lucchetti sulla sua icona. Non vedo il contenuto (dati) né da Kde, né da Gnome, né da MIdnight Commander (tramite consolle) Ho provato anche due altre distribuzioni, giusto per fare qualcosa dato che ieri ero a casa Né ELX né Red Hat 7.3 mi risolvono la cosa RH, tramite Hardware Browser, mi dà questa situazione: *Lettore Asus CD-S500/A viene visto come /dev/hdc (cdrom come icona sul desktop) *Masterizzatore Traxdata 2x2x6 viene visto come Ide-Cd Rewritable 2x2x6 /dev/scd0 (cdrom1 sul desktop) Spero per domani di riuscire a postare i due files... Come al solito vi ringrazio per l'aiuto Andrea Mi viene un dubbio, sei sicuro che nel retro del 2 cd i jumper siano configurato bene? potrebbe essere che son settati entrambi come master? A me era capitata una cosa del genere quando volevo fare il boot dal masterizzatore che era slave e dimenticandomi di settare i jumper il computer non vedeva piu` i lettori! - -- Le ballerine sono coraggiosissime! Quante donne conoscete in grado di gettarsi tra le braccia di un omossessuale sperando che lui le afferri? Rita Rüdner chiave pubblica disponibile sul keyserver -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+OkkeTvJtVxCNwP4RAq1tAJ4gZwd5Rbob8qZOsR2TUO799OQCqACfeIw2 HsgLebZbRJ544w64gf5+/sc= =LJFz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] OT informazioni hardware x Linux
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:22:15 + tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Altri oggetti possono essere più delicati: - modem analogici: prendine uno esterno. I softmodem PCI, bene che ti va, fai una faticaccia per un oggetto che vale un terzo di un modem vero. I rockwell, puoi solo buttarli. 00:0a.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem (rev 01) Subsystem: Conexant: Unknown device 2004 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 9 Memory at e100 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] I/O ports at d000 [size=8] Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2 il mio conexant_winmodem va che un piacere,con pochissima fatica! vi diro di piu,sfrutta molto meglio quel poco di banda sotto linux che non con win$ :) Diciamo che il problema di configurare un soft-modem è una delle domande più assillanti su ng e Ml di linux. Per configurare un modem vero, invece, basta pigiare il tasto interroga modem di kppp. Non dubito che ti funzioni meglio sotto Linux, che sotto windows. Il problema era un altro: a parità di sistema operativo, funziona meglio un modem o una scheda audio camuffata da modem che fa fare tutto il lavoro alla CPU? Io direi il modem. L'altro oggetto soffrirà di rallentamenti tutte le volte che la CPU è impegnata a fare altre cose. Questo forse spiega perché con Linux il tuo funzioni meglio: Linux ha un multitasking moolto più efficiente di quello dei vari winzoz. Anche i soft-modem hanno i loro vantaggi: - costo molto basso - un oggetto in meno che ti gira sul tavolo !!! - facilità di aggiornamento - ingombro ridotto sui portatili (si possono fare schede combo, che fungono sia da modem che da audio). ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] Crashhh Browser
Ciao, ebbene, il mozillone presente in mdk9 ha qualche problema, fatto già accertato abbondantemente azz..sembra lunghetto,ma almeno è una soluzione.Io ho bisogno di un browser che mi faccia vedere le finestre in java (chat etc ect)quindi pensavo o a scaricare il plug anche per Konqueror o a installare Opera. Qualcuno ha testato? TNX Fulvio
[newbie-it] Notebook for linux
Ohilà bella gioventù, prima che vi tormenti con mail tipo ( modem help, etc.) mi potreste dire se c'è un portatile su cui posso installare mdk9 senza alcun problema? Voi ne avete qualcuno? Io vorrei avere qualche vostro consiglio, penso di prendere un'asus con athlon xp. Grazie bella gente e baciamo le mani a tutti pari! Assabanadica!
Re: [newbie-it] Crashhh Browser
Ciao, ebbene, il mozillone presente in mdk9 ha qualche problema, fatto già accertato abbondantemente azz..sembra lunghetto,ma almeno è una soluzione.Io ho bisogno di un browser che mi faccia vedere le finestre in java (chat etc ect)quindi pensavo o a scaricare il plug anche per Konqueror o a installare Opera. Qualcuno ha testato? TNX Fulvio Ciao, io ho mdk9 e ho installato anche il jdk1.4.1. Facendo alcuni link simbolici al jre (libjavaplugin_oji140.so) riesco a usare java sia con mozilla che con galeon. Sembrano entrambi abbastanza stabili. Ho installato Opera, ma lo uso davvero poco... Konqueror lo uso solo come file browser quindi non ho testato le abilitazioni java. Andrea -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie-it] Staroffice6 OO
Emma e Gigi wrote: Accade pure a me, però solamente quando apro files creati con Word. con quelli creati con OpenOffice va tutto bene!! Ergo: non sopporta Bill Gates :) Ciaooo Gigi - Original Message - From: CyberPenguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mdk ML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Staroffice6 OO Fabio wrote: Alle 15:19, giovedì 30 gennaio 2003, toto ha scritto: Ho un problema grosso con Staroffice e OpenOffice, installati nella Mandrake 9, spesso inserendo testo o immaggini e in altre circostanze l'applicazione scompare e il più delle volte uccide il serveX. snip Vero, posso confermare che utilizzando il pacchetto OpenOffice (accade sia con writer che con calc), alcune volte succede: snip Anche a me succede un problema simile con OO 1.0.1 sotto RH :-( Writer e Calc sembrano funzionare al meglio finche' non uso lo scroll del mouse che, inevitabilmente, mi fa crashare la gui. E ritorno in fase di login :-( Mah ... Bye ;-) Giovanni -- (o //\Membro del FoLug - http://folug.linux.it V_/_Red Hat 8.0 GNU/Linux Powered --- There is no system other than GNU. And Linux is one of its kernels. io ho questo noiosissimo problema con OO installato da rpm mandrake , credo sia un problema con i font cmq. ho risolto scaricandomi ed installando openoffice . è molto semplice e, quello sì davvero stabile ciao francesco
Re: [newbie-it] Crashhh Browser
On Friday 31 January 2003 11:06 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [newbie-it] Crashhh Browser: Ciao, ebbene, il mozillone presente in mdk9 ha qualche problema, fatto già accertato abbondantemente azz..sembra lunghetto,ma almeno è una soluzione.Io ho bisogno di un browser che mi faccia vedere le finestre in java (chat etc ect)quindi pensavo o a scaricare il plug anche per Konqueror o a installare Opera. Qualcuno ha testato? Ho provato Opera, ma il java e' tutt'altro che stabile e efficiente. Alla fine il meglio resta appunto Mozilla, magari una versione piu' aggiornata e un recente jdk. (ma guardo pochissimo java, lo ammetto) bye -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/ Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://www.marcob.org/go.asp?~freefred/ ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
Re: [newbie-it] Notebook for linux
carmine de pasquale wrote: Alle 11:32, venerdì 31 gennaio 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Ohilà bella gioventù, prima che vi tormenti con mail tipo ( modem help, etc.) mi potreste dire se c'è un portatile su cui posso installare mdk9 senza alcun problema? Voi ne avete qualcuno? Io vorrei avere qualche vostro consiglio, penso di prendere un'asus con athlon xp. Grazie bella gente e baciamo le mani a tutti pari! Assabanadica! prima di comprare un asus, senti le st***te che dice il loro servizio clienti su ext3 e hard disk. ti passerà la voglia di dare soldi all'asus http://punto-informatico.it/p.asp?i=42917 oramai si è toccato il fondo del boicottaggio da parte dei produttori hardware al software libero io ho un asus 8400 mi riconosce tutto tranne il modem interno .per il resto va bene senza alcun problema ciao francesco
Re: [newbie-it] Crashhh Browser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciao, ebbene, il mozillone presente in mdk9 ha qualche problema, fatto già accertato abbondantemente azz..sembra lunghetto,ma almeno è una soluzione.Io ho bisogno di un browser che mi faccia vedere le finestre in java (chat etc ect)quindi pensavo o a scaricare il plug anche per Konqueror o a installare Opera. Qualcuno ha testato? TNX Fulvio ti conviene scaricarti mozilla dal sito ed installarlo ( come root ) poi ti scarichi da sun java poi il plugin flash ed hai tutto quello che ti serve ... anzi se usi il tema classic e geramik il tema diventa uguale a keramik che è il default di kde 3.1 ciao francesco
[newbie-it] StarOffice e OO su Mandrake9
Tornando al Problema(P maiuscola) ho fatto la disinstallazione sia di OOffice che di StarOffice. Reinstallando solo StarOffice Standalone , inoltre non ho configurato dal centro di controllo di Mandrake il Refresh delle stampanti (opzione che prima avevo sempre fatto per ottenere da Staro/Openffice il riconoscimento automatico delle stampanti installate), poi lo installata da /usr/lib/staroffice/setup non dal menù. Risultato di tutto : per adesso (Dopo delle prove di fuoco) funziona a meraviglia, spero continui così!!! In ogni caso Vi saprò dire. Inoltre Voglio ringraziare tutti quelli che hanno affrontato il tema o anche chi ha solo letto: Totò
Re: [newbie-it] Crashhh Browser
Il ven, 2003-01-31 alle 13:26, Andrea Nasato ha scritto: azz..sembra lunghetto,ma almeno è una soluzione.Io ho bisogno di un browser che mi faccia vedere le finestre in java (chat etc ect)quindi pensavo o a scaricare il plug anche per Konqueror o a installare Opera. Qualcuno ha testato? TNX Fulvio Testato con Konqueror: funziona benone. Basta abilitare (ovviamente) il Java e dargli come path (se si è installato la JDK 1.4.1 nelle directory di default) /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_01/. Testato anche con Opera (anche qui è configurabile rapidamente dai menù di opzioni) e Netscape 7 e Mozilla (qui è più una rottura: trovi le istruzioni per farlo a questo link: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/control_panel_script.html). Ciao. -- - Marco Balza Balzarini - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Red Hat 8.0 on Desktop: - Athlon XP 2.0ghz + MSI KT333 + 512 Mb RAM 333mhz - Point Of View GeForce4 4200 128 Mb + SB Live 5.1 - Mandrake 9.0 on Notebook: - Pentium3 700mhz + 192Mb ram + Ati Rage Mobility 8Mb
Re: [newbie-it] Crashhh Browser
Il 31 Jan 2003 16:12:20 +0100 Marco Balzarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] ebbe a dire: Il ven, 2003-01-31 alle 13:26, Andrea Nasato ha scritto: azz..sembra lunghetto,ma almeno è una soluzione.Io ho bisogno di un browser che mi faccia vedere le finestre in java (chat etc ect)quindi pensavo o a scaricare il plug anche per Konqueror o a installare Opera. Qualcuno ha testato? TNX Fulvio Testato con Konqueror: funziona benone. Basta abilitare (ovviamente) il Java e dargli come path (se si è installato la JDK 1.4.1 nelle directory di default) /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_01/. Testato anche con Opera (anche qui è configurabile rapidamente dai menù di opzioni) e Netscape 7 e Mozilla (qui è più una rottura: trovi le istruzioni per farlo a questo link: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/control_panel_script.html). Ciao. Se non ti serve il mailer puoi scaricare molto più velocemente il phoenix (praticamente solo il browser Mozilla). Il 0.5 è 'na favola, veloce, stabile e si configura come mozzi e... non ha i banner di opera. saluti Giamgax __ Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html
[newbie-it] .NET su Linux?
Ciao, qualcuno sa qualcosa di preciso riguardo al progetto di portare .NET opersource su Linux? ciao ciao, Enrico _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus
Re: [newbie-it] Crashhh Browser
Alle 10:06, venerdì 31 gennaio 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Ciao, ebbene, il mozillone presente in mdk9 ha qualche problema, fatto già accertato abbondantemente azz..sembra lunghetto,ma almeno è una soluzione.Io ho bisogno di un browser che mi faccia vedere le finestre in java (chat etc ect)quindi pensavo o a scaricare il plug anche per Konqueror o a installare Opera. Qualcuno ha testato? TNX Fulvio Java viene supportato piuttosto bene dall'ultimo konqueror. -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
Re:[newbie-it] .NET su Linux?
Ciao, qualcuno sa qualcosa di preciso riguardo al progetto di portare .NET opersource su Linux? ciao ciao, Enrico Ciao, allora il progetto si chiama MONO, è della Ximian, ma rilasciato con licenza GPL, se non ricordo male. Inoltre La Ximian ha recentemente annunciato il rilascio di un nuovo aggiornamento di Mono (23 gennaio 2003). Si tratta di un progetto nato con l?obiettivo di rilasciare una versione open source del framework .NET targato Microsoft. Ha già buone funzionalità, nonostante sia la versione 0.19. Il sito ufficiale del prodotto è http://www.go-mono.com/. Sperando di esserti stato d'aiuto ti saluto! *** Silvio Colloca Webmaster ed unico colpevole di http://www.linuxhelp.it Two significant products trace their orgins to Berkley, Unix and LSD. We do not believe this to be a coincidence. *** *** Silvio Colloca Webmaster ed unico colpevole di http://www.linuxhelp.it Two significant products trace their orgins to Berkley, Unix and LSD. We do not believe this to be a coincidence. ***
Re: [newbie-it] Notebook for linux
- Original Message - From: francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Notebook for linux carmine de pasquale wrote: Alle 11:32, venerdì 31 gennaio 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Ohilà bella gioventù, prima che vi tormenti con mail tipo ( modem help, etc.) mi potreste dire se c'è un portatile su cui posso installare mdk9 senza alcun problema? Voi ne avete qualcuno? Io vorrei avere qualche vostro consiglio, penso di prendere un'asus con athlon xp. Grazie bella gente e baciamo le mani a tutti pari! Assabanadica! prima di comprare un asus, senti le st***te che dice il loro servizio clienti su ext3 e hard disk. ti passerà la voglia di dare soldi all'asus http://punto-informatico.it/p.asp?i=42917 oramai si è toccato il fondo del boicottaggio da parte dei produttori hardware al software libero io ho un asus 8400 mi riconosce tutto tranne il modem interno .per il resto va bene senza alcun problema ciao francesco questo lo so, ma leggi l'articolo e ti morirai dalle risate. ci manca solo che non riconoscano la garanzia se non usi windogs
Re: [newbie-it] shorewall?
Alle 22:28, mercoledì 29 gennaio 2003, miKe ha scritto: Alle 05:58, mercoledì 29 gennaio 2003, Arwan ha scritto: identificarti presso il server, se quindi torni su un sito già visto, accetti di nuovo il biscottino, che poi cancellerai, resti comunque non tracciato, quindi anonimo) Quello dei biscotti e' un problema che lasciavo per la merenda (ed in fatto di linux io sono ancora alla colazione!), pero' mi interessa non poco. Vorrei capire un po' di piu' come funzia 'sta storia dei riconoscimenti per far luce sul problema, e se magari tu avessi pronto lo scriptino di cui dici, mi farebbe piacere darci una sbirciata. Administrator@mdk:~$ less rimuovi_cookie #!/bin/bash [...] Scusate (dal basso della mia ignoranza), non è lo stesso usare l'impostazione di Mozilla limit maximum lifetime of cookies to current section? Naturalmente a patto di usare Mozilla. Ciao Giorgio ___ http://digilander.iol.it/conchiglieveneziane
Re: [newbie-it] magico fstab
Alle 23:26, martedì 28 gennaio 2003, Fabio Manunza ha scritto: [...] Vedi che ne pensa mcc (mandrake control center); magari è possibile che non abbia registrato le modifiche che hai fatto a mano... Adesso sono registrate; non è detto che lo fossero prima. Alle 23:56, martedì 28 gennaio 2003, miKe ha scritto: è strano, ma in lista è passato da poco un post su una macchina inusabile a causa di un fstab che non rispecchiava la tabella delle partizioni inizia a diventare piuttosto strano hai la data di modifica ? se dovesse essere un servizio (mah) di mandrake a fare questo, puoi vedere se ha lasciato traccia in qualche log (basandoti sulla data, per no deover leggere tutto) Purtroppo ho rimesso a posto fstab a mano senza pensare di guardare la data; non ho trovato un log con informazioni su questo. Se dovesse capitare un'altra volta farò attenzione e segnalerò la cosa in lista. Grazie, ciao Giorgio ___ http://digilander.iol.it/conchiglieveneziane
Re: [newbie-it] scheda video ATI Rage 128 Pro
Alle 00:36, mercoledì 29 gennaio 2003, miKe ha scritto: [...] ma /var/log/XFree86.0.log ti dice se viene fatta una scansione delle possibili profondità colore ? (usi xfree 4 o 3?, non è che modifichi il file sbagliato?) Uso il 4, anche perché con il 3 non riuscivo a far andare la scheda; credo (credo solo, eh?) che il driver r128 non ci sia nel 3. D'altra parte, sempre attraverso il control center, le altre impostazioni che ho dato a mano in XF86Config-4 le vedo giuste, quindi il file è quello. Ho guardato XFree86.0.log ed ho trovato le seguenti righe riferentisi al numero di colori: (**) R128(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (II) R128(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps) (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp Bohh? Ciao e grazie Giorgio ___ http://digilander.iol.it/conchiglieveneziane
Re: [newbie-it] Crashhh Browser
ti conviene scaricarti mozilla dal sito ed installarlo ( come root ) poi ti scarichi da sun java poi il plugin flash ed hai tutto quello che ti serve ... è esattamente quello che ho installato...plug scaricati da sun e caricati come root..idem plug flash per funzionare funzionano,ma ogni tanto si inchioda Fulvio
Re: [newbie-it] Crashhh Browser
ti conviene scaricarti mozilla dal sito ed installarlo ( come root ) poi ti scarichi da sun java poi il plugin flash ed hai tutto quello che ti serve ... è quello che ho fatto...per funzionare funza,ma ogni tanto si inchioda :-( Fulvio
Re: [newbie-it] shorewall?
Alle 20:50, venerdì 31 gennaio 2003, Giorgio Griffon ha scritto: Scusate (dal basso della mia ignoranza), non è lo stesso usare l'impostazione di Mozilla limit maximum lifetime of cookies to current section? Naturalmente a patto di usare Mozilla. Ciao Giorgio In realtà volevo fare una domanda simile, e cioè a disconnessione potrei in linea teorica da Mozilla rimuovere i cookies e avrei fatto la stessa cosa che lanciare lo script che rimuove cookies.txt e poi lo ricrea?? Secondo me intuitivamente ed irrazionalmente credo non sia la stessa cosa, ma non riesco a trovare il perché di questa sensazione... cioè non credo che lanciare lo script sia una versione linuxiana elegante della rimozione formato x-window dei cookies sotto Mozilla... ma non so perché, ci deve essere sotto dell'altro... Forse però mi sbaglio! Ciao
Re: [newbie-it] Crashhh Browser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ti conviene scaricarti mozilla dal sito ed installarlo ( come root ) poi ti scarichi da sun java poi il plugin flash ed hai tutto quello che ti serve ... è esattamente quello che ho installato...plug scaricati da sun e caricati come root..idem plug flash per funzionare funzionano,ma ogni tanto si inchioda Fulvio io , siccome mi aggiorno con le night version mozilla mi sono messo i link ed i plugind nella dir ~/.mozilla/plugins/ così quando mi aggiorno il mozilla , ogni due o tre giorni i plugin rimangono funzionanti ... ciao francesco .. ah ..mai un crash per fortuna
Re: [newbie-it] saned, parzialmente risolto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 23:17, giovedì 30 gennaio 2003, carmine de pasquale ha scritto: 2) (si ripresenta ad ogni riavvio del server) i permessi del /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target2/lun0/generic vengono resettati ad ogni avvio come lettura e scrittura per utente e gruppo e non per gli altri, appena dò i permessi agli altri, lo scanner viene condiviso. è il fido devfs !! non funziona nemmeno se uso lo stesso nome utente e gruppo sul client. come posso impostare questa procedura (cambio dei permessi su questo file) in automatico all'avvio, subito dopo il riconoscimento dello scanner? o crei l'utente che usa lo scanner come appartenente al gruppo che può usarlo oppure in rc.local metti un chmod 666 /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target2/lun0/generic bye miKe - -- Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+Ot9nF/9fksDJ4y0RAvY/AKC28OPzWsHx7mvz/j7FiAEYdO+kKwCfU5D4 /53mF0GsT7mHV8su9MdfY9Q= =BMYV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] Problemi di boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 23:25, giovedì 30 gennaio 2003, carmine de pasquale ha scritto: molto simile al mio problema. ho risolto col cd mdk, avviando una istallazione esperto, dando alle partizioni il loro punto di mount, NON FORMATTANDO, istallando un sol pacchetto a caso (se non istalli pacchetti non funziona), dando annulla a tutte le opzioni (mouse, tastiera, connessione, server X), tranne che a lilo, nel quale ho aliminato le vecchie voci. non so se esistono procedure più semplici. la mia è durata 20 minuti. con quella procedura riscrivi fstab e reinstalli lilo lo stesso puoi farlo con la iso che ti ho indicato, montando la / della mandrake entrandoci facendo chroot e editando a mano fstab (in base all'output di fdisk -l) e lilo.conf (quindi reinstallandolo) 30 secondi per il boot 10 per fdisk -l 10 per il mount -t reiserfs-ext2/3 /dev/hdxn /mnt/hd 2 per il cd /mnt/hd chroot . 20 per vi /etc/fstab 20 per vi /etc/lilo.conf 1 per lilo -v ___ 93 ;P bye miKe - -- Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+OuEoF/9fksDJ4y0RAkhgAJ9bENHrA9s9Ou71D98xVT6+S7IQxgCfVi+p gs+r5LNNYttOlS0Dfyfwbrw= =xGiP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie] Microsoft User Group
Kesav Tadimeti wrote: Hi all, It makes sense to use some sensible linux distro instead of using pirated MS s/w. Consider - Windows OS ($8/-) + MS Office ($8/-) + MSVC ($8/-) + SqlServer ($8/-) + Adobe suite (acrobat, photoshop...$8/-) + ... = $40 atleast Boxed Mandrake Linux (standard) was $50/- (7.2) Or if you try Debian, FreeBSD = $10-15/- With linux/BSD you get a whole lot of software as well. Those were prices in Singapore. In India, it is 100/- for a CD (USD2/-). So a Linux CD set would cost upwards of Rs300/- when you could get it for half the price from the Linux users group. Like Indonesia, most people here buy Windows and Windows programs on the street for about $3. Now I know why the EU is reluctant to admit Turkey. g Cheers... LOL. I think software piracy is a minor issue compared to the fact that we have a populous country with a lousy economy (I suspect concerns about human rights, the role of the military etc. are a convenient way to avoid talking about this issue openly). Still, software piracy is massive here - often even the copy of Windows you get with a new PC is pirated. Software sells on the street for about $3 per CD, so you're talking around $15 for a pirated MS software suite - cheaper than a Mandrake boxed set, but more expensive than buying Linux on the street. Computer magazines often provide Linux distros (I got 7.2 and 9.0 like that, the latter being a stripped-down one-CD version). BTW, $3 is not a negligible amount of money here - you can get a pretty decent meal for that. Sir Robin -- A Perl script is correct if it gets the job done before your boss fires you. - Larry Wall Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft User Group
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 19:48, robin wrote: LOL. I think software piracy is a minor issue compared to the fact that we have a populous country with a lousy economy (I suspect concerns about human rights, the role of the military etc. are a convenient way to avoid talking about this issue openly). Still, software piracy is massive here - often even the copy of Windows you get with a new PC is pirated. Software sells on the street for about $3 per CD, so you're talking around $15 for a pirated MS software suite - cheaper than a Mandrake boxed set, but more expensive than buying Linux on the street. Computer magazines often provide Linux distros (I got 7.2 and 9.0 like that, the latter being a stripped-down one-CD version). BTW, $3 is not a negligible amount of money here - you can get a pretty decent meal for that. Sir Robin Mmmmaybe I should enroll in one of your classes, Sir Robin - and motivate my physical self there...I've always wanted to do some digging around Turkey...(barring nuclear strikes by US Armed Forces) -- Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:00:00 +1100 8:00pm up 22:57, 4 users, load average: 0.18, 0.25, 0.29 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- `O' LEVEL COUNTER CULTURE Timewarp allowed: 3 hours. Do not scrawl situationalist graffiti in the margins or stub your rollups in the inkwells. Orange may be worn. Credit will be given to candidates who self-actualise. (1) Compare and contrast Pink Floyd with Black Sabbath and say why neither has street credibility. (2) Even Buddha would have been hard pushed to reach Nirvana squatting on a juggernaut route. Consider the dialectic of inner truth and inner city. (3) Discuss degree of hassle involved in paranoia about being sucked into a black hole. (4) The Egomaniac's Liberation Front were a bunch of revisionist ripoff merchants. Comment on this insult. (5) Account for the lack of references to brown rice in Dylan's lyrics. (6) Castenada was a bit of a bozo. How far is this a fair summing up of western dualism? (7) Hermann Hesse was a Pisces. Discuss. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Fax to email box.
Has anyone any ideas on fax to email in the UK. I currently use 'Trinite' to receive faxes via a separate fax number to my email box. Unfortunately I usually receive only the first page and I am told by Trinite that I need to use 'Windows Imaging' or 'Irfan View'. Are there any Linux fax to email box services? -- Malcolm Candlish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 2:05 am, Larry Williams wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 14:24, Anne Wilson wrote: As root edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. Reboot the machine and the DNS resolution should start working ok. Actually, as I'm quickly learning, there shouldn't be a need to reboot. You will have to restart your network service, whcih can be done as root by typing service network restart In general I would agree - reboots are usually not needed, but in my experience if you have had problems (as distinct from just adjusting or adding something) it may be necessary, to clean out the junk, I suppose. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Evolution mail?
If I need to email from the Galeon browser the default email prog is Evolution. I set it up with the minimum info necessary to send email, preferring to continue to use KMail for everything else. However, since such a message is not going to be in my sent mail box on KMail, I have used bcc to myself on a different account. These copies are not being received. Any ideas, anyone? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Evolution mail?
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 21:06, Anne Wilson wrote: If I need to email from the Galeon browser the default email prog is Evolution. I set it up with the minimum info necessary to send email, preferring to continue to use KMail for everything else. However, since such a message is not going to be in my sent mail box on KMail, I have used bcc to myself on a different account. These copies are not being received. Any ideas, anyone? Anne If you go into the prefs for Galeon you can change the default mail proggie under URL handling... -- Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:10:01 +1100 9:10pm up 1 day, 7 min, 5 users, load average: 0.27, 0.31, 0.29 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Up against the net, redneck mother, Mother who has raised your son so well; He's seventeen and hackin' on a Macintosh, Flaming spelling errors and raisin' hell... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 1:50 am, John Rye wrote: I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a Soltek SL-KT400-A4/7 Socket A board, Via KT133 series, running an Athlon-XP 1800 with no problems. Thanks for that. For your interest a good test of a mother board is to locate, aquire,steal, borrow or of coarse d/l Knoppix. Now that's an interesting thought. No good in this situation, because I'll have to buy it before I can test it, but a good idea for checking out existing older computers. Thanks. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 7:47 am, robin wrote: You don't need imwheel (see responses to my posts on an optical mouse). I have a Microsoft Intellimouse on one box and it works OK. My /etc/sysconfig/mouse file reads as follows: MOUSETYPE=ps/2 XMOUSETYPE=ExplorerPS/2 FULLNAME=PS/2|Microsoft Explorer XEMU3=no WHEEL=yes device=psaux You could compare this with what you have. XMOUSETYPE=ExplorerPS/2 FULLNAME=PS/2|Microsoft Explorer XEMU3=no WHEEL=yes device=psaux You could compare this with what you have. The XEMU3 and, of course, WHEEL lines are important. Perhaps these intellimice are not all the same? Mine is an elderly one. Bootup always record problems saying that it will be treated as a generic one, but the scroll and the middle-button behaviour work, so I'm tempted to leave it alone. FYI my /etc/sysconfig/mouse says MOUSETYPE=imps2 XMOUSETYPE=IMPS/2 FULLNAME=PS/2|Generic PS2 Wheel Mouse XEMU3=no WHEEL=yes device=psaux Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Fax to email box.
Malcolm, It might be a bit big for your needs, but Hylafax does just that, as long as it is coming in on your box. Tony. -Original Message- From: Malcolm Candlish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:41 AM To: Mandrake List Subject: [newbie] Fax to email box. Has anyone any ideas on fax to email in the UK. I currently use 'Trinite' to receive faxes via a separate fax number to my email box. Unfortunately I usually receive only the first page and I am told by Trinite that I need to use 'Windows Imaging' or 'Irfan View'. Are there any Linux fax to email box services? -- Malcolm Candlish [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fax to email box.
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 9:41 am, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Has anyone any ideas on fax to email in the UK. I currently use 'Trinite' to receive faxes via a separate fax number to my email box. Unfortunately I usually receive only the first page and I am told by Trinite that I need to use 'Windows Imaging' or 'Irfan View'. Are there any Linux fax to email box services? From that reply I guess you are looking at multi-page tif files received as faxes? FWIW I use the service provided by Tiscali, which simply sends faxes as email attachments. Much simpler. Does your provider offer that as an option? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
- Original Message - From: Chuck Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) On Wed, January 29 2003 5:19 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: Hi Margot! I haven't followed this whole thread but if I may say, your ISP Is full of shit. ZA has nothing to do with them. It just shields your comp from outside of the LAN computers. IE, Net comps on the other end. Actually, that's not QUITE true, perhaps her ISP uses some transparent proxying that ZA blocks. I have seen cases where firewalls DO cause problems with certain ISPs. Although, that is not her problem, that is the ISP's. Or, perhaps they have a very non-standard way of giving her internet access, perhaps using some sort of virtual networking, automatically set up at their end. If this is the case, then 9 times out of 10, any firewall would break it. I could get quite technical, in the ways it could happen.. But there is no time, nor is this the proper place. However, to help you with your problem, I would suggest that you, at the (EEK!!) command line, su to root, type ipchains -F, then ipchains -L and see what the default policies are.. INPUT and OUTPUT should be allowed.. If they are, then we have another problem, but it's a start. -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Chuck Logged in as user, su to root, went to (EEK!!) command line, tried both ipchains -F and ipchains -L, got the same error message for both: Could not run the specified command. In case there was a permission problem, tried logging in as root and using root console for both commands, and got command not found. Is there somewhere else to look for these default policies? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Cheap, Sensible UK ISP?
Hi All If you have followed my other thread (Internet Connection Problem) you will see that in spite of lots of help from various people I still can't connect to the internet from my new linux machine using my current ISP Eurobell. I'm beginning to think that what I really need is a different ISP, because Eurobell's technical support people don't seem to understand their own system setup, let alone mine! I have a 56k dial-up modem and a standard BT phone line which I will have to continue to use as there is no cable where I live, and I can't afford anything else. Eurobell charges a penny a minute any time of day/night, which is useful because I have ME so my sleeping/waking hours are somewhat erratic. I spend about fifteen pounds a month, and can't afford more because my budget is limited (Incapacity Benefit doesn't stretch very far, and I need to eat occasionally!). Can anyone recommend a suitable UK ISP that is both cheap and linux-user-friendly? I'd also like to hear about any that you would NOT recommend - feel free to mail me off-list if you prefer not to criticise your current ISP in public! TIA Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) snipped all Anne, I used the wizard in MCC to set up the connection again, then used the Mozilla wizard to set up my account, but still no luck. As eurobell failed to give a sensible answer to my question about authentication protocol, I tried all the options! This is what I got... As PAP: Failed to connect to server mail.eurobell.co.uk As CHAP: Failed to connect to server mail.eurobell.co.uk As Terminal-based: Gave me a terminal screen where I put in my username, then I got The pppd daemon died unexpectedly Exit status:16 As Script-based: The pppd daemon died unexpectedly Exit status:16 Consulted man pppd - found that Exit status 16 = The link was terminated by the modem hanging up. Originally I thought the problem might be failure of the hardware module located between chair and keyboard - I have ME, and sometimes my brain gets a bit foggy! Now I think it is more likely that eurobell has some weird setup that they can't understand themselves, let alone explain to other people! So perhaps the answer is just that I need to use a different ISP? I've started a new thread asking for recommendations... Meanwhile, I don't feel inclined to waste any more of my time or yours on this problem - I'm sure we've all got better things to do - but big thanks to Anne and all others for help so far. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 11:27 am, Margot wrote: So perhaps the answer is just that I need to use a different ISP? I've started a new thread asking for recommendations... The messages, to me, indicate that either a) you are timing out - but IIRC you have already set that as high as it will go b) you are failing authentication. I think this is the real problem. Yes, if Eurobel are the real problem, you may have to look elsewhere. FWIW I use Mailbox for my adsl isp. You may wish to check out there website. I found them through the adslguide site, that looks at service and customer satisfaction, and have been delighted with them. What's more they don't eek when you say linux. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap, Sensible UK ISP?
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 10:39 am, Margot wrote: I have a 56k dial-up modem and a standard BT phone line which I will have to continue to use as there is no cable where I live, and I can't afford anything else. Eurobell charges a penny a minute any time of day/night, which is useful because I have ME so my sleeping/waking hours are somewhat erratic. I spend about fifteen pounds a month, and can't afford more because my budget is limited (Incapacity Benefit doesn't stretch very far, and I need to eat occasionally!). For £15 a month you can get an Anytime connection. Tiscali is the one I use for dial-up connection. They aren't particularly linux oriented, but they give clear set up info that can be used with any os. I set them up on Mandrake 8.1, when I was the rawest newbie you could imagine, and it worked first time. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] against the war!
The United States are about to start a war without of consideration for international law. If you want to speak against it, the UN are collecting signatures to work against this tragically event. Please do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the attached list and send it to all the people you know. If you've received a list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy to the United Nations mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition! Die Vereinigten Staaten sind gerade dabei einen Krieg zu diktieren. Wir befinden uns heutzutage in einem weltweiten Ungleichgewicht, was zu einem Dritten Weltkrieg fuehren kann. Wenn Du Dich ebenfalls dagegen aussprichst, die UNO ist gerade dabei Unterschriften zu sammeln, um diesem tragischen Geschehen entgegenzuwirken. Bitte kopiere diese e-mail in eine neue mail, unterzeichne sie am Ende der Liste, die unten angehaengt ist und schicke sie an alle Personen, die Du kennst. Wenn Du die Liste mit mehr als 500 Namen erhaeltst, dann schicke bitte eine Kopie davon an: United Nation mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auch wenn Du Dich entschliessen solltest nicht zu unterzeichnen, dann schicke die Petition bitte trotzdem weiter. Estados Unidos está a punto de dictar la guerra. Hoy nos encontramos en un punto en desequilibrio mundial por lo que puede dar inicio a un a Tercera Guerra Mundial. Si tu estas en contra, la ONU se encuentra recopilando firmas para evitar este tragico acontecimiento mundial. Por favor copia este e-mail en un mensaje nuevo, firma al final de la lista que verasa continuacion, y envialo a todas las personas que conozcas. Si recibes esta lista con mas de 500 nombres en ella, por favor envia una copia del mensaje a: United Nations mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Incluso si decides no firmar, por favor se considerado y no elimines la peticion. SOLO REENVIALO PARA JUNTOS HACER ALGO 1) Suzanne Dathe, Grenoble, France 2) Laurence COMPARAT, Grenoble,France 3) Philippe MOTTE, Grenoble, France 4) Jok FERRAND, Mont St Martin, France 5) Emmanuelle PIGNOL, St Martin d'Heres,FRANCE 6) Marie GAUTHIER, Grenoble, FRANCE 7) Laurent VESCALO, Grenoble, FRANCE 8) Mathieu MOY, St Egreve, FRANCE 9) Bernard BLANCHET, Mont St Martin,FRANCE 10) Tassadite FAVRIE, Grenoble, FRANCE 11) Loic GODARD, St Ismier, FRANCE 12) Benedicte PASCAL, Grenoble, FRANCE 13) Khedaidja BENATIA, Grenoble, FRANCE 14) Marie-Therese LLORET, Grenoble,FRANCE 15) Benoit THEAU, Poitiers, FRANCE 16) Bruno CONSTANTIN, Poitiers, FRANCE 17) Christian COGNARD, Poitiers, FRANCE 18) Robert GARDETTE, Paris, FRANCE 19) Claude CHEVILLARD, Montpellier,FRANCE 20) Gilles FREISS, Montpellier, FRANCE 21) Patrick AUGEREAU, Montpellier,FRANCE 22) Jean IMBERT, Marseille, FRANCE 23) Jean-Claude MURAT, Toulouse, France 24) Anna BASSOLS, Barcelona, Catalonia 25) Mireia DUNACH, Barcelona, Catalonia 26) Michel VILLAZ, Grenoble, France 27) Pages Frederique, Dijon, France 28) Rodolphe FISCHMEISTER, Chatenay-Malabry,France 29) Francois BOUTEAU, Paris, France 30) Patrick PETER, Paris, France 31) Lorenza RADICI, Paris, France 32) Monika Siegenthaler, Bern,Switzerland 33) Mark Philp, Glasgow, Scotland 34) Tomas Andersson, Stockholm, Sweden 35) Jonas Eriksson, Stockholm, Sweden 36) Karin Eriksson, Stockholm, Sweden 37) Ake Ljung, Stockholm, Sweden 38) Carina Sedlmayer, Stockholm, Sweden 39) Rebecca Uddman, Stockholm, Sweden 40) Lena Skog, Stockholm, Sweden 41) Micael Folke, Stockholm, Sweden 42) Britt-Marie Folke, Stockholm, Sweden 43) Birgitta Schuberth, Stockholm, Sweden 44) Lena Dahl, Stockholm, Sweden 45) Ebba Karlsson, Stockholm, Sweden 46) Jessica Carlsson, Vaxjo, Sweden 47) Sara Blomquist, Vaxjo, Sweden 48) Magdalena Fosseus, Vaxjo, Sweden 49) Charlotta Langner, Goteborg, Sweden 50) Andrea Egedal, Goteborg, Sweden 51) Lena Persson, Stockholm, Sweden 52) Magnus Linder, Umea ,Sweden 53) Petra Olofsson, Umea, Sweden 54) Caroline Evenbom, Vaxjo, Sweden 55) Asa Pettersson, Grimsas, Sweden 56) Jessica Bjork, Grimsas, Sweden 57) Linda Ahlbom Goteborg, Sweden 58) Jenny Forsman, Boras, Sweden 59) Nina Gunnarson, Kinna, Sweden 60) Andrew Harrison, New Zealand 61) Bryre Murphy, New Zealand 62) Claire Lugton, New Zealand 63) Sarah Thornton, New Zealand 64) Rachel Eade, New Zealand 65) Magnus Hjert, London, UK 67) Madeleine Stamvik, Hurley, UK 68) Susanne Nowlan, Vermont, USA 69) Lotta Svenby, Malmoe, Sweden 70) Adina Giselsson, Malmoe, Sweden 71) Anders Kullman, Stockholm, Sweden 72) Rebecka Swane, Stockholm, Sweden 73) Jens Venge, Stockholm, Sweden 74) Catharina Ekdahl, Stockholm, Sweden 75) Nina Fylkegard, Stockholm, Sweden 76) Therese Stedman, Malmoe, Sweden 77) Jannica Lund, Stockholm, Sweden 78) Douglas Bratt 79) Mats Lofstrom, Stockholm, Sweden 80) Li Lindstrom, Sweden 81) Ursula Mueller, Sweden 82) Marianne Komstadius, Stockholm,Sweden 83) Peter Thyselius, Stockholm, Sweden 84) Gonzalo Oviedo, Quito, Ecuador 85) Amalia Romeo, Gland,
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 22:36, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 31 Jan 2003 11:27 am, Margot wrote: So perhaps the answer is just that I need to use a different ISP? I've started a new thread asking for recommendations... The messages, to me, indicate that either a) you are timing out - but IIRC you have already set that as high as it will go b) you are failing authentication. I think this is the real problem. Yes, if Eurobel are the real problem, you may have to look elsewhere. FWIW I use Mailbox for my adsl isp. You may wish to check out there website. I found them through the adslguide site, that looks at service and customer satisfaction, and have been delighted with them. What's more they don't eek when you say linux. Anne Due to the problems with timeouts with KPPP, I'd suggest giving wvdial a go since it sometimes bypasses the idiosyncrasies of KPPP and initiates a connection. The wvdial package is on the CD set...can't recall where, though... -- Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:45:00 +1100 10:45pm up 1 day, 1:42, 5 users, load average: 0.51, 0.40, 0.18 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- birth, n: The first and direst of all disasters. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap, Sensible UK ISP?
Hi I have freeserve and have not had any problems On Friday 31 Jan 2003 10:39 am, Margot wrote: Hi All If you have followed my other thread (Internet Connection Problem) you will see that in spite of lots of help from various people I still can't connect to the internet from my new linux machine using my current ISP Eurobell. I'm beginning to think that what I really need is a different ISP, because Eurobell's technical support people don't seem to understand their own system setup, let alone mine! I have a 56k dial-up modem and a standard BT phone line which I will have to continue to use as there is no cable where I live, and I can't afford anything else. Eurobell charges a penny a minute any time of day/night, which is useful because I have ME so my sleeping/waking hours are somewhat erratic. I spend about fifteen pounds a month, and can't afford more because my budget is limited (Incapacity Benefit doesn't stretch very far, and I need to eat occasionally!). Can anyone recommend a suitable UK ISP that is both cheap and linux-user-friendly? I'd also like to hear about any that you would NOT recommend - feel free to mail me off-list if you prefer not to criticise your current ISP in public! TIA Margot -- Thank You Benjamin Jeeves Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation fault
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 12:09 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 11:55 pm, Sharrea wrote: On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:19, Keith Powell wrote: On Monday 27 January 2003 10:16 am, Derek Jennings wrote: Just for future reference if you download from the command line with urpmi --noclean blah blah then it will not erase /var/cache/urpmi/rpms and if the same rpms are called again it will find them in the cache derek Thanks for the information, Derek. It's very useful to know about --noclean. Pity that the MCC install software facility doesn't give the choice of keeping the downloaded packages on the hard drive. Perhaps a future version will. Cheers Keith This does not work for me in mdk9.0. It deletes the file in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/. It worked in 8.1. Does anyone else have this problem? Sharrea Hmm You are right. That will teach me to believe 'man' pages derek That's funny, because it works OK for me in 9.0 and in 9.1 (beta 2). I haven't tweaked any settings. David -- Registered Linux User #207521 The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory. (Paul Fix) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
or maybe because it restarts a bunch of servicces that have been reconfigured but not restarted. On Friday 31 January 2003 05:02 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 31 Jan 2003 2:05 am, Larry Williams wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 14:24, Anne Wilson wrote: As root edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. Reboot the machine and the DNS resolution should start working ok. Actually, as I'm quickly learning, there shouldn't be a need to reboot. You will have to restart your network service, whcih can be done as root by typing service network restart In general I would agree - reboots are usually not needed, but in my experience if you have had problems (as distinct from just adjusting or adding something) it may be necessary, to clean out the junk, I suppose. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap, Sensible UK ISP?
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 10:39 am, Margot wrote: Hi All If you have followed my other thread (Internet Connection Problem) you will see that in spite of lots of help from various people I still can't connect to the internet from my new linux machine using my current ISP Eurobell. I'm beginning to think that what I really need is a different ISP, because Eurobell's technical support people don't seem to understand their own system setup, let alone mine! I have a 56k dial-up modem and a standard BT phone line which I will have to continue to use as there is no cable where I live, and I can't afford anything else. Eurobell charges a penny a minute any time of day/night, which is useful because I have ME so my sleeping/waking hours are somewhat erratic. I spend about fifteen pounds a month, and can't afford more because my budget is limited (Incapacity Benefit doesn't stretch very far, and I need to eat occasionally!). Can anyone recommend a suitable UK ISP that is both cheap and linux-user-friendly? I'd also like to hear about any that you would NOT recommend - feel free to mail me off-list if you prefer not to criticise your current ISP in public! TIA Margot Try UKLinux - http://www.uklinux.net There's a free option and various paid ones: no adsl at present but as you're on dial-up, I would recommend them. Linux orientated so tech support is good, albeit a little slow sometimes. David -- Registered Linux User #207521 The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory. (Paul Fix) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HD
On Thursday 30 January 2003 10:45, Gil Katz wrote: Hi I bought a new WD 80GB disk and mount it with HardDrake and made one partition but when i look in KDiskFree i see that i got only 25 GB. What is wrong? Gil I'll refine the problem DiskDrake see the disk as is (74 GB) but KDiskFree see only 2.5 HD Gil -- Fair well and thanks for all the fish Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel
On Thursday 30 January 2003 09:30 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Having been to the archives and checking my /etc files for the proper configuration on the mouse, I am still unable to use the wheel as a wheel or third button. Has anyone an idea of what makes the little bugger work? TIA for any suggestions. if you cann't trade it in on a logitech, try to set it up as logitech intellimouse and test it and see if that works... works for me... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] against the war!
Mark; Could you take a moment to define your use of the word Balls? I'm hoping that your intended use of the word was in reference to the fact that this list is not a political group, and therefore is probably unable to effect a change in the foreign policies of the United States where war is the outcome, rather than implying that this group or members thereof have no will or courage of their own? A clarification would probably go a long way to minimizing the list of replies that your post would otherwise generate! Lanman On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 07:14, Mark Weaver wrote: Frank Mertens wrote: The United States are about to start a war without of consideration for international law. If you want to speak against it, the UN are collecting signatures to work against this tragically event. Please do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the attached list and send it to all the people you know. If you've received a list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy to the United Nations mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition! In all seriousness your time and energy would be far better spent sending these sigs to the US congress and senate and communicating your feelings to them rather then sending them to a body that has no balls. Let Washington know and hear how you feel. you've a much better chance at least getting heard. Mark __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] against the war!
Lanman, I interpreted his disparagement to apply to the UN rather than to us. Still, clarity is a good thing when insulting randomly and in a public forum (or amy discourse in any forum, for that matter). --- Original Message --- From: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] against the war! Mark; Could you take a moment to define your use of the word Balls? I'm hoping that your intended use of the word was in reference to the fact that this list is not a political group, and therefore is probably unable to effect a change in the foreign policies of the United States where war is the outcome, rather than implying that this group or members thereof have no will or courage of their own? A clarification would probably go a long way to minimizing the list of replies that your post would otherwise generate! Lanman On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 07:14, Mark Weaver wrote: Frank Mertens wrote: The United States are about to start a war without of consideration for international law. If you want to speak against it, the UN are collecting signatures to work against this tragically event. Please do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the attached list and send it to all the people you know. If you've received a list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy to the United Nations mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition! In all seriousness your time and energy would be far better spent sending these sigs to the US congress and senate and communicating your feelings to them rather then sending them to a body that has no balls. Let Washington know and hear how you feel. you've a much better chance at least getting heard. Mark __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] against the war!
Maybe you should have not posted it to this group as you say it not a political group. On Friday 31 Jan 2003 1:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lanman, I interpreted his disparagement to apply to the UN rather than to us. Still, clarity is a good thing when insulting randomly and in a public forum (or amy discourse in any forum, for that matter). --- Original Message --- From: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] against the war! Mark; Could you take a moment to define your use of the word Balls? I'm hoping that your intended use of the word was in reference to the fact that this list is not a political group, and therefore is probably unable to effect a change in the foreign policies of the United States where war is the outcome, rather than implying that this group or members thereof have no will or courage of their own? A clarification would probably go a long way to minimizing the list of replies that your post would otherwise generate! Lanman On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 07:14, Mark Weaver wrote: Frank Mertens wrote: The United States are about to start a war without of consideration for international law. If you want to speak against it, the UN are collecting signatures to work against this tragically event. Please do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the attached list and send it to all the people you know. If you've received a list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy to the United Nations mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition! In all seriousness your time and energy would be far better spent sending these sigs to the US congress and senate and communicating your feelings to them rather then sending them to a body that has no balls. Let Washington know and hear how you feel. you've a much better chance at least getting heard. Mark __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Thank You Benjamin Jeeves Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] support for gnome-python2 and pygtk2
Would anyone happen to know if there will be support for gnome-python2 and pygtk2 in Mandrake 9.1? -- Regards Trevor === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 290542 at http://counter.li.org Registered Machine #'s 186951, Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] against the war!
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 07:14, Mark Weaver wrote: In all seriousness your time and energy would be far better spent sending these sigs to the US congress and senate and communicating your feelings to them rather then sending them to a body that has no balls. Let Washington know and hear how you feel. you've a much better chance at least getting heard. Mark You think the US legislative branch has balls? Maybe one or two members. Most are corporate whores. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Email Sig Fortune question
- Original Message - From: heather [EMAIL PROTECTED] I see lots of ppl have the Fortune program make them a sig for email. Usually random. How do I do this or where can I go for information on how to do this neat trick? :) Ty Femme ** Hi Heather! Nice to see you back on the list. Hope you're doing well. Using Kmail all you have to do is the following: KMail Settings Identity Signature Obtain signature from: Output of command Specify command: fortune Works for me. If you aren't using KMail, I can't help, sorry. ;-) Best regards. Take good care. --Angus I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week sometimes to make it up.--Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ http://www.operamail.com Now with OperaMail Premium for only US$29.99/yr Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] against the war!
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 3:16 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote: I agree, no more posts on the subject please. Lets make this the last. In any case, do the math. Your name, if you sign, after only a couple more iterations appears on more than 1700 different 'petitions'. Do you seriously expect anyone to take notice of that? It's nothing more than an old-fashined chain mail. A great way of clogging up the internet. Bin it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Friday 31 Jan 2003 2:34 pm, Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dennis Myers wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 08:44 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: AFAIK, install a program called imwheel and run it via the cli (imwheel) to start the program. That should start the wheel working. Cheers Jason Dennis Myers wrote: Having been to the archives and checking my /etc files for the proper configuration on the mouse, I am still unable to use the wheel as a wheel or third button. Has anyone an idea of what makes the little bugger work? TIA for any suggestions. Nope, still nothing, guess Charlies' suggestion will have to be considered. I don't even have the third button function with the wheel let alone scrolling. Bummer! Thanks for the suggestions any others? You don't need imwheel (see responses to my posts on an optical mouse). I have a Microsoft Intellimouse on one box and it works OK. My /etc/sysconfig/mouse file reads as follows: MOUSETYPE=ps/2 XMOUSETYPE=ExplorerPS/2 FULLNAME=PS/2|Microsoft Explorer XEMU3=no WHEEL=yes device=psaux You could compare this with what you have. The XEMU3 and, of course, WHEEL lines are important. Sir Robin ** I'm using the MS Intellimouse also, and mine is ID'd as a PS/2|Generic PS2 Wheelmouse in /etc/sysconfig as follows: MOUSETYPE=imps2 XMOUSETYPE=IMPS/2 FULLNAME=PS/2|Generic PS2 Wheel Mouse XEMU3=no WHEEL=yes device=psaux Works OK. (No imwheel needed) Identical settings to mine. Do you get error messages during bootup? I do, but everything works fine. I wonder if mine is trying to ID it as something else, but settles for this as best bet. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 *** Anne, yes, I do get error messages, if I move the mouse, either on bootup or shutdown. That was pointed out to me as a possible cause of the messages by some other wise soul on this list. (can't remember who though) If I refrain from moving the mouse on boot or shutdown, I don't get error messages. Are you moving you're mouse when you shouldn't Anne??? ;-) LOL HTH. All the best. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ http://www.operamail.com Now with OperaMail Premium for only US$29.99/yr Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Correction to More on Alas and Alack'
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 06:35:00PM -0900, civileme wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 03:52 pm, Richard Babcock wrote: Of course I have to jump on this! I would rather have my warts for free than pay slick Willie for them! -snip- I know of an alleged witchcraft wart cure: the witch buys warts from you! -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:51:49 -0800 Myers, Dennis R NWO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I know that GLXGears is not the best thing in the world to use for a comparison, but the results surprised me: 2600fps 2200fps Dennis, unless you have exactly the same processes running on both systems you can not really do a true comparison. Also did you set the memory and mode for AGP in your BIOS for each card? Charles Kramer's Law: You can never tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks. -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-1mdk -- msg117557/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] HD
Once it is mounted, do a df -h on the command line and see what it says. ~~Brad On Friday 31 January 2003 04:47 am, you wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 10:45, Gil Katz wrote: Hi I bought a new WD 80GB disk and mount it with HardDrake and made one partition but when i look in KDiskFree i see that i got only 25 GB. What is wrong? Gil I'll refine the problem DiskDrake see the disk as is (74 GB) but KDiskFree see only 2.5 HD Gil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xincludes
Sounds like it needs some x11 library headers to me. Perhaps it needs the header files: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/ Maybe give more details. The exact output from when you are trying to compile. ~~Brad On Friday 31 January 2003 08:13 am, you wrote: I'm certain this will have been asked before, but I can't find it in the archives. I'm installing a .tar.gz program and it says it needs Xincludes. I can't find this anywhere. I've looked at rmpfind, google and sourceforge, but nothing turns up. I have also looked on the disks. It's probably part of another package which is called something altogether different! Where is it, please? Many thanks Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] YP Server
Origionally stood for Yellow Pages. Its a network information system, that allows information to be hosted on a server and accessed from the clients on the network. An example is a lab in a school where you log onto any machine and still have all your preferences. Try searching google for some documentation. ~~Brad On Friday 31 January 2003 08:45 am, you wrote: Can anyone tell me what a YP server is and what it does, and is there any documentation I can look up. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] graphic login screen
You need to be running KDM or GDM or XDM. They stand for KDE Display Manager, Gnome Display Manager, and X Display Manager. Should be an rpm or something to install them. ~~Brad On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:22 pm, you wrote: Greetings, I am running ML 8.2 on my generic desktop box. I didn't install X to begin with but 'added' it later. My login screen is a plain white dialog box with two input fields, one for userid, one for password. I have to type in both my userid and password and there is no drop down box for selecting a desktop. How can I get the nifty login screen with the little people icons in it so I can just click on my 'user' and then type in my password and select a different desktop? tia R - Richard L. Babcock, Owner Tower Training At Tower Training, We Bring the Classroom to You! www.towertraining.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Logitech Wingman/USB joystick question.
Is there a good howto on getting this to work? I can plug it in to my USB port and it shows up, recognized and everything in USB View. Do I have to load some modules 'n stuff? Also, what games support Linux joysticks? Thanks much! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PPPoE-client for Linux
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 2:58 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 10:29 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:17 pm, Anders Lind wrote: PPPoE is basically already built into the system, else you can use the PPPoE client from say, Roaring Penguin (RPM based so no thinking required) - I personally would try to stay within the actual parameters of the operating system - I tend to stick with what's already built into the networking before finding an alternative, but everyone likes their tea a different way! I should have a look at it I changed from modem to adsl just before I changed to 9.0. It was such a no-brainer with standard Mdk tools that I can hardly remember doing anything - and I certainly couldn't be called experienced. 9.0 detected it automatically, so I didn't need to do anything as far as I can remember. Anne Anders, I suppose you live in Sweden where most things are like Denmark (maybe except the booze). In Denmark it's not necessary to use PPPoE, we use DHCP instead. I think PPPoE is mostly an American thing. All I had to do was to connect the *splitter* to the phone outlet, then the ADSL-modem to the splitter and, finally, the ethernet card to the ADSL modem. Reboot. Voila. No change of settings. That sounds like the same system we have. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Cheap, Sensible UK ISP?
UK? H, Im here in US, working for an isp, we can lease a server VERY CHEAP. That way you have no needs for server costs. Write back if you are interested. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Jeeves Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 4:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Cheap, Sensible UK ISP? Hi I have freeserve and have not had any problems On Friday 31 Jan 2003 10:39 am, Margot wrote: Hi All If you have followed my other thread (Internet Connection Problem) you will see that in spite of lots of help from various people I still can't connect to the internet from my new linux machine using my current ISP Eurobell. I'm beginning to think that what I really need is a different ISP, because Eurobell's technical support people don't seem to understand their own system setup, let alone mine! I have a 56k dial-up modem and a standard BT phone line which I will have to continue to use as there is no cable where I live, and I can't afford anything else. Eurobell charges a penny a minute any time of day/night, which is useful because I have ME so my sleeping/waking hours are somewhat erratic. I spend about fifteen pounds a month, and can't afford more because my budget is limited (Incapacity Benefit doesn't stretch very far, and I need to eat occasionally!). Can anyone recommend a suitable UK ISP that is both cheap and linux-user-friendly? I'd also like to hear about any that you would NOT recommend - feel free to mail me off-list if you prefer not to criticise your current ISP in public! TIA Margot -- Thank You Benjamin Jeeves Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel
h, i set mine up as generic 3 wheel, and the pos works fine. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of et Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 5:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel On Thursday 30 January 2003 09:30 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Having been to the archives and checking my /etc files for the proper configuration on the mouse, I am still unable to use the wheel as a wheel or third button. Has anyone an idea of what makes the little bugger work? TIA for any suggestions. if you cann't trade it in on a logitech, try to set it up as logitech intellimouse and test it and see if that works... works for me... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] against the war!
On Friday 31 January 2003 06:54 am, Frank Mertens wrote: The United States are about to start a war without of consideration for international law. If you want to speak against it, the UN are collecting signatures to work against this tragically event. Please do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the attached list and send it to all the people you know. If you've received a list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy to the United Nations mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition! I just forwarded this list of names to the following: FBI (Federal Bureau Of Investigation) CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) NSA (National Security Agency) OHS (Office Of Homeland Security) MADD (mothers against drunk drivers) DAMM (drunks against mad mothers) and any other pertinent organisation I can bloody well think of!!! roflol! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Friday 31 January 2003 10:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Don't know about that, but a Duron is very throttled back compared with an Athlon, so perhaps it's a case of what you gained in one place you lost in another. Anne Hi Anne. I knew a Duron is lite beer compared to a regular Athlon but I didn't think it would affect video like that. You might be right. Thanks! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Friday 31 January 2003 11:14 am, Charles A Edwards wrote: Dennis, unless you have exactly the same processes running on both systems you can not really do a true comparison. Well, they are both running v9.0 of Mandrake with the same kind of setup. Only software diff. that I know of is the Nvidia drivers... Also did you set the memory and mode for AGP in your BIOS for each card? Charles They are both set to aperture size of 128 megs. As far as mode?, I'm not sure what you meant. Thanks! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Vaio GRX models
I just got my Mandrake Pro Suite in the mail yesterday and want to finally rid myself of the last Windows machine, my laptop! It is a Sony Vaio GRX 560 and most everything works except: The Sony Memory Stick adapter and sound. I believe this is related to apic. Has anyone on the list gotten around these issues or at least have some ideas on doc's. I did find a doc on getting RH 7.3 working with the Vaio, but no Mandrake specific docs. Thanks, -Scott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 5:04 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 31 January 2003 10:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Don't know about that, but a Duron is very throttled back compared with an Athlon, so perhaps it's a case of what you gained in one place you lost in another. Anne Hi Anne. I knew a Duron is lite beer compared to a regular Athlon but I didn't think it would affect video like that. You might be right. Thanks! I could be way off, though. It just seemed to me that it might prove a bottleneck. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Friday 31 January 2003 07:59 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Okay, I've got 2 systems here I'm looking at: Shuttle MBSoyo MB 384 megs Ram 384 megs DDR Ram 900mhz Athlon CPU 1.3 ghz Duron CPU SB Live audioOnboard audio 56x IDE CD 56x IDE CD floppy floppy 20 Gig Seagate HD 30 Gig Maxtor HD Nvidia Geforce 2-32 megs Ram Nvidia Geforce 2-64 megs Ram (made by Verto-PNY) (made by MSI) 4191 drivers Drivers that come with v9.0 Now I know that GLXGears is not the best thing in the world to use for a comparison, but the results surprised me: 2600fps 2200fps Why would the system in column 1 outperform (video wise) the machine in the 2nd column? It seems like it would be the other way around? (could the drivers make that much of a difference?) Thanks! :-) Other than Anne's suggestion of the Athlon's on chip cache being doubled in comparison to the Duron; what is the chipset on the Shuttle? That may make a difference. Also the drivers actually *will* make a difference, the Athlon is using the NVidia 4191 driver, while the Duron is using the generic/open source good enough without tainting the kernel set that shipped with the operating system. Reflect on that one Dark Lord; a budget processor running non optimized drivers is running a 3d app at nearly 85% of the efficiency of an optimized driver running the same operating system. I think both are a good indication that greater things are still to come, don't you? The final point I want to make; have you read any comparisons on hardware review sites of the differences between GeForce cards from different manufacturers? There are differences and even though the tests for the most part are done under Windows the drivers used are always the latest stable offerings from NVidia. It may just be that part of the difference is something like VRAM speed difference on the two different boards as well. Lot's of variables, not enough for me to base anything other than these SIWAGes on. (semi intelligent wild @$$ guesses) :-) Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org The day you leave work early to make it to class on time, the sensei will be sick -- Murphy's Laws of Martial Arts n°4 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft Intellimouse disfunctional wheel
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 4:03 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Anne, yes, I do get error messages, if I move the mouse, either on bootup or shutdown. That was pointed out to me as a possible cause of the messages by some other wise soul on this list. (can't remember who though) If I refrain from moving the mouse on boot or shutdown, I don't get error messages. Are you moving you're mouse when you shouldn't Anne??? ;-) LOL LOL - I get the messages if my hands are behind my back. It works, though, so if it ain't broke Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Friday 31 January 2003 12:20 pm, Charlie wrote: Lot's of variables, not enough for me to base anything other than these SIWAGes on. (semi intelligent wild @$$ guesses) :-) Regards; Ha - those are the finest kind! grin (and thanks for the reply) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:07:47 -0500 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are both set to aperture size of 128 megs. As far as mode?, I'm not sure what you meant. mode=1x, 2x, 3x, 4x and with newest high end cards 8x Both your cards should be set for 4x But hell if you have 1 system that is not using the nvidia drivers it would be tremendously faster With those drivers. Charles A definition of teaching: casting fake pearls before real swine. -- Bill Cain, Stand Up Tragedy -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-1mdk -- msg117574/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:24 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: As root edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. Reboot the machine and the DNS resolution should start working ok. ps there are full details in the archives somewhere (errata) HTH Anne Anne, I've got this in my /etc/sysconfig/network file: GATEWAY= GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 and it works fine. I had to do this since Mandrake always complains during installation that I've configure multiple ways to connect to the Internet. (I've got an external modem and LAN card). Also, you don't have to reboot. You can do (as su) a: service network restart :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 5:20 pm, Charlie wrote: The final point I want to make; have you read any comparisons on hardware review sites of the differences between GeForce cards from different manufacturers? There are differences and even though the tests for the most part are done under Windows the drivers used are always the latest stable offerings from NVidia. It may just be that part of the difference is something like VRAM speed difference on the two different boards as well. Lot's of variables, not enough for me to base anything other than these SIWAGes on. (semi intelligent wild @$$ guesses) :-) Question for Charlie - Since graphics cards are amongst the most popular upgrades, would you like to put on record the checks you would make if you were choosing a card, and where you would look for answers? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 11:53 am, et wrote: or maybe because it restarts a bunch of servicces that have been reconfigured but not restarted. That sounds more than likely g Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Friday 31 January 2003 12:33 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: mode=1x, 2x, 3x, 4x and with newest high end cards 8x Both your cards should be set for 4x grin I thought thats what you meant but didn't want to show my, ah ignorance... :-) Anyways, yes - both are set to 4x mode. But hell if you have 1 system that is not using the nvidia drivers it would be tremendously faster With those drivers. Charles They are both using Nvidia drivers - just that the first one is using the latest 4191 drivers, and the 2nd one is using the Nvidia drivers that come with the v9.0 Powerpack. (not 2D). Thanks! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 5:23 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:24 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: As root edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. Reboot the machine and the DNS resolution should start working ok. ps there are full details in the archives somewhere (errata) HTH Anne Anne, I've got this in my /etc/sysconfig/network file: GATEWAY= GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 Can't comment on that. Mine is adsl over lan with a router, so quite different. and it works fine. I had to do this since Mandrake always complains during installation that I've configure multiple ways to connect to the Internet. (I've got an external modem and LAN card). Also, you don't have to reboot. You can do (as su) a: service network restart :-) I guess that's why he said re-boot, but your way would be just as good, but perhaps not as 'intuitive' for a newbie? intuitive - inn-too-it-iv - adj: relative to the windows way of doing thing. Origin u.s.a., late 20c. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 January 2003 12:34 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: I guess that's why he said re-boot, but your way would be just as good, but perhaps not as 'intuitive' for a newbie? intuitive - inn-too-it-iv - adj: relative to the windows way of doing thing. Origin u.s.a., late 20c. Anne grin Windows is not inn-too-it-iv, Anne...just look - you have to go to the start icon to stop :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:30:55 -0500 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are both using Nvidia drivers - just that the first one is using the latest 4191 drivers, and the 2nd one is using the Nvidia drivers that come with the v9.0 Powerpack. (not 2D). Is either system by chance running setiathome? Charles The hearing ear is always found close to the speaking tongue, a custom whereof the memory of man runneth not howsomever to the contrary, nohow. -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-1mdk -- msg117581/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Thursday 30 January 2003 01:59 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 6:30 pm, et wrote: Snipped I would suggest you turn of DNS, caching name server, named, routed and yp services and other YP services (unless you need them and understand how to correctly configure them seems that named (a DNS) would be the only one i need of the ones you mentioned as i am attempting to setup a server/dumb terminal network as per www.ltsp.org and need dns. the rest were deactivated as per your suggestion. Dennis M. had mentioned that on his system leaving the bios set to auto detect contributed to a slow and unstable system and suggested doing a hd detect in bios. perhaps with both suggestions i can get this thing moving! thank you (and Dennis M.) for your time and suggestion. -iggy DNS, if not configured correctly is one of those things that will sure as hell start a system to crawl, as your box might decide it needs to look on the Internet for //iggy.ISP.com/home/Iggy/fileIneed.txt instead of /home/iggy/fileineed.txt, and look to the dns servers upline before timing out and looking for the file where it is supposed to be. this might only take ten seconds while your network is up, but 10 seconds added to the time to open each file can sure make it seem like it is crawling. IMHO, better to not try to setup a dns server untill the rest of the box is setup correctly. When I got dns wrong it affected absolutely everything. Opening a file from the desktop took upwards of a minute. Sure the startup was very, very slow, but so was every other time the system needed it. Maybe this setup has a correct entry coupled with one or more incorrect ones, so that eventually gets there, while mine just had to time out. Anne i stopped the deamon from starting at boot, rebooted and checked to make sure that the deamon was stopped. it was... however, i'm still quite slow. it does not take me 1 minute more like 15 - 20 seconds to open programs. i do remember that the only other time i did a default install (mdk 8.2) i also had a slow system. once i did a custom install (checking only the programs i wanted and needed) the system ran fine. i'll reinstall if i have to :^( but i'm not looking forward to it (reeks of ms crap i went through w/ win98). anyother ideas would be greatly appreciated. -iggy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Friday 31 January 2003 12:51 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: Is either system by chance running setiathome? Charles Nah, although I do think its a very cool project! :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow after 9.0 install
On Friday 31 January 2003 12:53 pm, iggy wrote: anyother ideas would be greatly appreciated. -iggy Make sure you don't have a hostname conflict somewhere. That wil definitely slow your system down. Also, you can get KDE to bootup faster by editing: /usr/bin/startkde and commenting out the following lines: # Laurent kde2.2-30mdk scan-nsplugins #if [ -x /usr/bin/nspluginscan ]; then # /usr/bin/nspluginscan #fi HTH's! :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 5:40 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 31 January 2003 12:34 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: I guess that's why he said re-boot, but your way would be just as good, but perhaps not as 'intuitive' for a newbie? intuitive - inn-too-it-iv - adj: relative to the windows way of doing thing. Origin u.s.a., late 20c. Anne grin Windows is not inn-too-it-iv, Anne...just look - you have to go to the start icon to stop :-) I always thought that was a master stroke g Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 January 2003 02:27 am, Margot wrote: - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) snipped all Anne, I used the wizard in MCC to set up the connection again, then used the Mozilla wizard to set up my account, but still no luck. As eurobell failed to give a sensible answer to my question about authentication protocol, I tried all the options! This is what I got... As PAP: Failed to connect to server mail.eurobell.co.uk As CHAP: Failed to connect to server mail.eurobell.co.uk As Terminal-based: Gave me a terminal screen where I put in my username, then I got The pppd daemon died unexpectedly Exit status:16 As Script-based: The pppd daemon died unexpectedly Exit status:16 Consulted man pppd - found that Exit status 16 = The link was terminated by the modem hanging up. Originally I thought the problem might be failure of the hardware module located between chair and keyboard - I have ME, and sometimes my brain gets a bit foggy! Now I think it is more likely that eurobell has some weird setup that they can't understand themselves, let alone explain to other people! So perhaps the answer is just that I need to use a different ISP? I've started a new thread asking for recommendations... Meanwhile, I don't feel inclined to waste any more of my time or yours on this problem - I'm sure we've all got better things to do - but big thanks to Anne and all others for help so far. Margot OK I am late in on this thread, but let's see You have PAP on their end without a doubt. If you are using 9.0, then you need to erase the GATEWAY=xxx.yyy.zzz.aaa entry in /etc/sysconfig/network. Script error causes a big problem with ppp connections by demanding a gateway that cannot point to ppp0. Now on to firewalling. If you use the command line, likely you will need to bring up a terminal window and su first then give the root password # iptables -L is the instruction to list all the tables and any rules within if you have tables and there are policies or rules in effect, you need to iptables -F OUTPUT iptables -F INPUT iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT to turn off filtering entirely. Now if iptables does not work at all, then you do not have it loaded and no firewalling can be present, so firewalling would not be your problem An OLD OLD error was /etc/ppp/options it should be the following lock noauth noipdefault usepeerdns The usepeerdns can be eliminated if you set up your own dns pointers, but the noauth is critically important. When it is absent, the server is required to authenticate itself to your PC and that dialog could produce the hangup behavior you speak of. OTHER problems could be the protocol of your modem vs their protocol. If both are not using V.92, this could be the case. In that case, change modems or change ISPs. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:19:54 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 31 Jan 2003 1:50 am, John Rye wrote: I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a Soltek SL-KT400-A4/7 Socket A board, Via KT133 series, running an Athlon-XP 1800 with no problems. Thanks for that. For your interest a good test of a mother board is to locate, aquire,steal, borrow or of coarse d/l Knoppix. Now that's an interesting thought. No good in this situation, because I'll have to buy it before I can test it, but a good idea for checking out existing older computers. Thanks. I mildly disagree Anne, if the vender needs or wants the sale they will want to find a way to prove their product does what they advertise. I guess it is a little more difficult if you purchasing from a remote source (as I was), but I was able to use a 'return on failure to perform' promise made by the vendor. (Do you have any consumer protection legistation you could invoke?) Cheers John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HD
On Friday 31 January 2003 02:47 am, Gil Katz wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 10:45, Gil Katz wrote: Hi I bought a new WD 80GB disk and mount it with HardDrake and made one partition but when i look in KDiskFree i see that i got only 25 GB. What is wrong? Gil I'll refine the problem DiskDrake see the disk as is (74 GB) but KDiskFree see only 2.5 HD Gil Well WD is not a brand to buy since trhey OFFICIALLY support only Solaris and Windows, and besides they are hardware deficient on what it takes to do udma3 or higher and dangerous to use for your data at higher rates. Others can supply the info and links, but I will give you one... http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/kt2214_54.html#2 Basically WD disks are bad juju for linux. The real problem here may be one of mathematics, though. WD has this penchant for producing single-platter disks with one rack of heads each side (weigh it on a scale against competitive products and you will find the WD disk lighter) This means that the track number may be overflowing what Kdiskfree has available for track numbers with a resulting problem in viewing the disk. At one time the linux kernel would carve up big WD drives differently than the BIOS would with results that were just fantastic, but no other drives had ANY problems. This was true in Mandrake 7.1 and 7.2 for certain, but was corrected in kernel 2.2.19. Now, stop trusting kdf and let's see what dmesg says. Post the results and we'll see what the kernel says about free space. If there is still a problem, most likely the kernel's math will have to be adjusted for the most recent WD cheapness shortcut and another item will have to be added to the kernel's internal blacklist of cantankerous drives requiring special handling. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Logitech Wingman/USB joystick question.
On Friday 31 January 2003 10:45 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Is there a good howto on getting this to work? I can plug it in to my USB port and it shows up, recognized and everything in USB View. Do I have to load some modules 'n stuff? Also, what games support Linux joysticks? Thanks much! The only info that's even half way current is the one in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/input/joystick.txt for usb I needed: usb-uhci, input, joydev, and adi for gp I needed: input, joydev, emu10k1-gp and adi adi is the kernel module for that joystick. emu10k1-gp is for the soundblasterlive critters. Never needed to calibrate or set up anything else - just load the modules. The game I bought mine for mainly was Descent3 (and Tribes2). :D hth, -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Friday 31 January 2003 10:21 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 31 January 2003 12:20 pm, Charlie wrote: Lot's of variables, not enough for me to base anything other than these SIWAGes on. (semi intelligent wild @$$ guesses) :-) Regards; Ha - those are the finest kind! grin (and thanks for the reply) Hey D-L I do the best I can with my semi intelligence. ;-) Wild @$$ guesses have always been a specialty of mine ya know. With all the help I get around here without even asking I wouldn't reply if I had a guess or a clue to offer? waaa, you huiwted me feewings! g You're very welcome. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org If God had intended Man to Walk, He would have given him Feet. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] support for gnome-python2 and pygtk2
On Friday 31 January 2003 04:29 am, Trevor Rhodes wrote: Would anyone happen to know if there will be support for gnome-python2 and pygtk2 in Mandrake 9.1? Well, before there are a raft of support questions for 9.1 perhaps this link should be posted... ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS.cooker Those are the rpms there now. If you care to build rpms for those, then go to the MandrakeLinux.com webpage and look under Developers on the left-hand side. xchat-python is there and pygnome 1.4.4 and pygtk-0.6.9 (four packages) and of course rpm-python. Now the versioning may not run the same so go up a level or two, grab the source(srpms), make a directory like this in your userspace ~/rpm ~/rpm/SOURCES ~/rpm/SPECS ~/rpm/BUILD ~rpm/RPMS ~/rpm/SRPMS and then just $ rpm -i pygtk-0.6.9-(whatever).src.rpm and then look in ~/rpm/SPECS with your favorite text editor handy (emacs color-codes the spec file nicely) and read the spec file for a description of what is actually covered. If you don't find what you want, you CAN make it happen. That is the beauty of linux. Go here: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/howtos/mdk-rpm/ And you can use your own 9.0 system to prepare and submit srpms for your favorite software so others (like me) who also love python can share in the benefits and your name goes on the changelog. Submission instructions are here: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 I hope that answers your question. I think you will find that with a few examples downloaded and disassembled by rpm installing them to your ~/rpm directory, that you can produce an rpm that will install and run nicely. Mandrake will rebuild it on their own compilation cluster(s), but it will be YOUR development contribution to MandrakeLinux. Likely the same SRPM will work for RH so you may want to post it somewhere as well where others can DL it. I think that is a great project, but I have other projects ahead of it so the chances I will do this one are slim and none. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Off Topic list
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 01:27:15PM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: Hi all, Given the amount of traffic and passion related over the last few days concerning things totally off topic where Mandrake Linux is concerned has led me to a place where I'm willing to try an experiment of sorts. I've created a mailing list for anyone here on the newbie and expert lists where they can freely talk about all the off topic stuff they have a need for. The link to sign up is below. http://mdw1982.dyndns.org/mailman/listinfo/mandrakeot X Good idea, thanks for offering that. I see you're using Mailman. I have a script that will generate list statistics on a monthly basis: Attempted posts, successful posts, Total bytes, Top 10 posters, Top 10 threads. I also run posts through stripmime, cause HTML really messes up the archives. If you're into stats, I can send you that script. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 4:44 pm, John Rye wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:19:54 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 31 Jan 2003 1:50 am, John Rye wrote: I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a Soltek SL-KT400-A4/7 Socket A board, Via KT133 series, running an Athlon-XP 1800 with no problems. Thanks for that. For your interest a good test of a mother board is to locate, aquire,steal, borrow or of coarse d/l Knoppix. Now that's an interesting thought. No good in this situation, because I'll have to buy it before I can test it, but a good idea for checking out existing older computers. Thanks. I mildly disagree Anne, if the vender needs or wants the sale they will want to find a way to prove their product does what they advertise. I guess it is a little more difficult if you purchasing from a remote source (as I was), but I was able to use a 'return on failure to perform' promise made by the vendor. Good for you. It seems only fair, though, that you should in return give him some publicity. I won't be shipping from nz, but someone else here might be interested in knowing him :) (Do you have any consumer protection legistation you could invoke?) In theory, yes. In practice, no. To invoke the 'fit for purpose' you have to clearly state at the time of purchase what is was that you wanted it to do. Say the dreaded word 'linux' and 99 out of 100 vendors will say, 'Don't know - can't say. We don't support linux' Under those circumstances they haven't told you it would, so you take the whole responsibility. They won't take it back unless you can prove it to be physically faulty in a way that you could not have caused. Our day will come - but not today. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap, Sensible UK ISP?
Margot, Most of the UK dial-up ISPs can be set up for Linux without too much difficulty - I would choose the one that offers the best deal, ignoring the question of Linux. Tiscali is pretty good, with a special internet deal called SmartSurf; but I have several to use in case one or other is particularly sluggish or down. The easiest way to set up for Linux is if you have Winblows - just install the free ISP CD and then crib the details off My Computer= Dial-Up Networking= the particular ISP. The only thing usually missing is the domain name and the authentication - that's usually PAP/CHAP (not PAP or CHAP). Let me know if you'd like to pursue this - for your info I'm using MD9.0, and Evolution (updated) for e-mail. Cheers, Doug On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 10:39, Margot wrote: Hi All If you have followed my other thread (Internet Connection Problem) you will see that in spite of lots of help from various people I still can't connect to the internet from my new linux machine using my current ISP Eurobell. I'm beginning to think that what I really need is a different ISP, because Eurobell's technical support people don't seem to understand their own system setup, let alone mine! I have a 56k dial-up modem and a standard BT phone line which I will have to continue to use as there is no cable where I live, and I can't afford anything else. Eurobell charges a penny a minute any time of day/night, which is useful because I have ME so my sleeping/waking hours are somewhat erratic. I spend about fifteen pounds a month, and can't afford more because my budget is limited (Incapacity Benefit doesn't stretch very far, and I need to eat occasionally!). Can anyone recommend a suitable UK ISP that is both cheap and linux-user-friendly? I'd also like to hear about any that you would NOT recommend - feel free to mail me off-list if you prefer not to criticise your current ISP in public! TIA Margot __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Douglas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap, Sensible UK ISP?
Margot, Most of the UK dial-up ISPs can be set up for Linux without too much difficulty - I would choose the one that offers the best deal, ignoring the question of Linux. Tiscali is pretty good, with a special internet deal called SmartSurf; but I have several to use in case one or other is particularly sluggish or down. The easiest way to set up for Linux is if you have Winblows - just install the free ISP CD and then crib the details off My Computer= Dial-Up Networking= the particular ISP. The only thing usually missing is the domain name and the authentication - that's usually PAP/CHAP (not PAP or CHAP). Let me know if you'd like to pursue this - for your info I'm using MD9.0, KPPP and Evolution (updated) for e-mail. Cheers, Doug On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 10:39, Margot wrote: Hi All If you have followed my other thread (Internet Connection Problem) you will see that in spite of lots of help from various people I still can't connect to the internet from my new linux machine using my current ISP Eurobell. I'm beginning to think that what I really need is a different ISP, because Eurobell's technical support people don't seem to understand their own system setup, let alone mine! I have a 56k dial-up modem and a standard BT phone line which I will have to continue to use as there is no cable where I live, and I can't afford anything else. Eurobell charges a penny a minute any time of day/night, which is useful because I have ME so my sleeping/waking hours are somewhat erratic. I spend about fifteen pounds a month, and can't afford more because my budget is limited (Incapacity Benefit doesn't stretch very far, and I need to eat occasionally!). Can anyone recommend a suitable UK ISP that is both cheap and linux-user-friendly? I'd also like to hear about any that you would NOT recommend - feel free to mail me off-list if you prefer not to criticise your current ISP in public! TIA Margot __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Douglas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 07:59, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Okay, I've got 2 systems here I'm looking at: Now I know that GLXGears is not the best thing in the world to use for a comparison, but the results surprised me: 2600fps 2200fps Why would the system in column 1 outperform (video wise) the machine in the 2nd column? It seems like it would be the other way around? (could the drivers make that much of a difference?) Thanks! :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Drivers one is a duron. Effectively a neutered AMD Chipset. Or so goes my semi-educated guess. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparison question
On Friday 31 January 2003 10:26 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 5:20 pm, Charlie wrote:
The final point I want to make; have you read any comparisons on hardware
review sites of the differences between GeForce cards from different
manufacturers? There are differences and even though the tests for the
most part are done under Windows the drivers used are always the latest
stable offerings from NVidia. It may just be that part of the difference
is something like VRAM speed difference on the two different boards as
well.
Lot's of variables, not enough for me to base anything other than these
SIWAGes on. (semi intelligent wild @$$ guesses) :-)
Question for Charlie -
Since graphics cards are amongst the most popular upgrades, would you like
to put on record the checks you would make if you were choosing a card, and
where you would look for answers?
Anne
Hi Anne!
What I usually do to start is to consider the projected budget set for the
purchase. Then read every review I can find on cards at that price since the
reviewers all have slightly different hardware environments to consider. A
component match is sometimes as important as any specific component to my
way of thinking.
You must remember that I haven't bought a new graphics adapter for my own use
since late 1998, a Creative Graphics Blaster TNT 16 MB. Price as usual was
the first consideration in the vein of bang for the buck. The only real
competition NVidia had at the time at the price point under consideration was
ATI; and while Buy Canadian meant a bit to me, the competition wasn't even
close. ATI is known throughout the world as a company that seems able to
design and (in some instances) build the hell out of the hardware, but fall
on their faces writing drivers that do what the hardware is capable of. I
would have rather had a VooDoo at the time but availability (extremely
limited here) and price meant that was out completely. Add to that; I had
just paid over CDN$400 for an Student discounted copy of Office 2000
because I was told in no uncertain terms that the Educational Institution I
was taking courses from required all Papers submitted on disks of that
format. They excluded compatibility capabilities of Star Office and Word
Perfect specifically. The twits!
Back to the graphics;
I recently made my 17 year old son build his own box with only minimal hints
from Dear Olde regarding hardware; on the theory that, He'll learn faster
from being bitten than any other way, and besides it's his cash he's throwing
at this thing.
We'll skip most of the specs other than; Athlon XP1800+ (Thoroughbred core)
overclocked {now} to 1967 MHz on an MSI KT-3 (or is that KT-4? One or the
other.) Ultra, SoundBlaster Live! Value Digital, and an ATI 9500 Pro Video
In/Video Out. I don't remember the manufacturer, it was whichever one of the
hardware review sites rated top of the class. MSI again I think. He seems to
have overclocked that beast too somehow and (under Windows XP anyway)
convinced it that it's a 9700 Pro using some sort of unlocking script. He's
still having trouble with it under Mandrake 9.0 which is the only reason he
loaded Windows XP. Gaming ya know.
I still think he made the correct choice. From what I've absorbed by haunting
the various hardware sites the 9500 Pro kills any available GeForce 4 for
less money; the drivers (gatos project for GNU/Linux) are better than
anything ATI has done in; well, forever, and they're improving, and the kid
needs to learn somehow right?
I guess what I'm saying is to pick as much as you can stuff into your budget
and find as much as possible from reviews on the 'net. Then toss a coin I
s'pose; since even the old 'hardcases' will disagree with each other.
Vociferously.
Or you could follow one of Josh's (the kid) criteria that he used picking the
motherboard. I liked the RED!
Makes almost as much sense as anything else don't you think? g
Regards;
--
Charlie
Edmonton,AB,Canada
Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org
You can't run a barn without baling twine
-- Murphy's Horse Laws n°15
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Re: [newbie] Cheap, Sensible UK ISP?
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 7:02 pm, Douglas B. wrote: Margot, Most of the UK dial-up ISPs can be set up for Linux without too much difficulty - I would choose the one that offers the best deal, ignoring the question of Linux. Tiscali is pretty good, with a special internet deal called SmartSurf; but I have several to use in case one or other is particularly sluggish or down. In your position I would consider using Tiscali on an Anytime contract, which IIRC is £15/month, and then one of the pay as you go isps for a fall-back account, just for those very rare occasions when something goes wrong. Anytime is just that no other cost for time or phone calls, but they tend to cut you off after about 2 hours, so long downloads are very difficult. As far as setting up goes, you can sign up from any browser you have, on any os, just from their website. When you've signed up and got your account initiated they send you a welcome letter and another with all the details you need to set up access from any browser. It is absolutely complete. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Logitech Wingman/USB joystick question.
On Friday 31 January 2003 01:27 pm, s wrote: The only info that's even half way current is the one in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/input/joystick.txt Yes, I read that - after getting many page not found errors when looking for info from Google searches... :-( for usb I needed: usb-uhci, input, joydev, and adi for gp I needed: input, joydev, emu10k1-gp and adi adi is the kernel module for that joystick. emu10k1-gp is for the soundblasterlive critters. Never needed to calibrate or set up anything else - just load the modules. The game I bought mine for mainly was Descent3 (and Tribes2). :D hth, -s Okay, so I just need to do insmod on joydev and adi? lsmod shows usb-uhci and input already. Okay, insmod joydev went fine... Hmm, I just tried insmod adi and got this: [root@darkforce darklord]# insmod adi Using /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/kernel/drivers/char/joystick/adi.o.gz /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/kernel/drivers/char/joystick/adi.o.gz: unresolved symbol gameport_open_Ra9b0d2ad /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/kernel/drivers/char/joystick/adi.o.gz: unresolved symbol gameport_close_R9d5c376e /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/kernel/drivers/char/joystick/adi.o.gz: unresolved symbol gameport_unregister_device_Rf205c758 /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/kernel/drivers/char/joystick/adi.o.gz: unresolved symbol gameport_register_device_R274f9f7b I never done anything with the joystick before so I'm lost here. Any ideas? Thanks much! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
