Re: [newbie-it] altro semi ot
Il 05:40, mercoledì 19 febbraio 2003, Arwan ha scritto: Per caso sapete dirmi a cosa corrisponde, in termini di processori intel, un amd k6? Penso che corrisponda ad un Pentium II Ciao, Germano
Re: [newbie-it] Suggerimenti: installazione e pacchetti
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:09:37 +0100 Alessandro Piaser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rpm -qi nome-pacchetto rpm -qip nome-pacchetto.rpm Quei pochi che ho installato l'ho fatto dando rpm -i nome-pacchetto.rpm l'opzione -q serve per avere informazioni sul pacchetto Mi sono quindi detto se ho installato icevw a cosa mi serve icevw-light? lo tolgo e con mia grande sorpresa al comando rmp -e mi dice che il pacchetto .. forse non hai dato il nome giusto. come sopra ho dato rpm -e nome-pacchetto.rpm NO, devi togliere il suffisso rpm come nell'esempio con -qi o -qip, se ti riferisci ad un pacchetto ancora da installare serve il nome completo e, a volte, l'opzione -p se ti riferisci ad un pacchetto già installato, devi dare solo il nome del pacchetto. # rpm -Uvh gqview-1.2.1-1.i386.rpm Preparing...### [100%] 1:gqview ### [100%] # rpm -q gqview gqview-1.2.1-1 # rpm -q gqview-1.2.1-1.i386.rpm package gqview-1.2.1-1.i386.rpm is not installed se, invece, è disponibile, ti basta agiungere modprobe nome-esatto-modulo al file /etc/modules.conf Sfortunatamente non so modificare il file di testo, perchè l'unico editor disponibile è VI e dal quel che ho letto è un po' ostico, ma in qualche modo provvederò a costo di copiare il file so floppy e modificarlo su un altro pc. Modo brutale per aggiungere righe in fondo ad un file: $ cat tuo_file riga 1 da aggiungere riga 2 da aggiungere ... riga n da aggiungere control-D $ attento che con una sola distruggi il file ;-) Un editor semplice che viene installato quasi sempre è pico Io, che amo vi alla follia, vi ti dico di cercare in internet qualche manualetto tipo http://www.ircspaceweb.com/linux_guide/lng065.zip Nella pratica vi ha tre tipi di funzionamento: - normale, ogni istruzione che batti ha un effetto immediato nel punto dove c'è il cursore, ad es. dd cancella la riga, / cerca una stringa, n cerca di nuovo la stessa stringa, N la cerca all'indietro - comando, se batti : ti si apre una riga in fondo allo schermo in cui puoi dare comandi di carattere generale, Ad es :wq significa salva e esci, :4,33s/bye/ciao/2 sostituisci da riga 4 a riga 33 bye con ciao, solo le prime 2 volte che lo trovi in ogni riga, :/pippo/s/pluto/paperino cerca le righe che contengono pippo e, solo in quelle, sostituisci pluto con paperino, ... - inserimento, se immetti le lettere a(appendi), i(inserisci) o o(apri nuova riga), passi in modalità inserimento e tutto quello che scrivi viene immesso nel testo. Esci da questa modalità premendo il tasto esc. ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] altro semi ot
Luigi Pinna wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 09:06, you wrote: Il 05:40, mercoledì 19 febbraio 2003, Arwan ha scritto: Per caso sapete dirmi a cosa corrisponde, in termini di processori intel, un amd k6? Penso che corrisponda ad un Pentium II Ciao, Germano Confermo: Pentium II. Il K7 corrisponde al PIII - -- Le ballerine sono coraggiosissime! Quante donne conoscete in grado di gettarsi tra le braccia di un omossessuale sperando che lui le afferri? Rita Rüdner -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+U0a4TvJtVxCNwP4RAqObAJ91/vW1HDT8I6lpS1wXdMvGcv1H+gCfUuLE +WRMGmwXbMFilwpMJIEI8H0= =GiaV -END PGP SIGNATURE- mmh io ricordo che il k6 era equivalente ai pentium 1 e l'athlon ai pentium 2 e 3 ed ora 4 con diverse nenominazioni ( slota A, classic, thunderbird, etc fino all'ultimio xp ) ma forse mi sbaglio ... ciao francesco
Re: [newbie-it] altro semi ot
Alle 05:40, mercoledì 19 febbraio 2003, Arwan ha scritto: Per caso sapete dirmi a cosa corrisponde, in termini di processori intel, un amd k6? L'AMD K5 corrisponde (più o meno) ai primi Pentium, il K6 al Pentium MMX, il K6-2 al Pentium II (più o meno), il K6-III al Pentium III (primi modelli), l'Athlon ai vari modelli successivi del Pentium III, l'AthlonXP al Pentium IV. Ciao... Daniele -- «Il mondo si divide in 10 tipi di persone: quelle che conoscono la numerazione binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.»
Re: [newbie-it] altro semi ot
Alle Wednesday 19 February 2003 05:40, a proposito di [newbie-it] altro semi ot (e chissa' a cosa pensava veramente), Arwan ha scritto: Per caso sapete dirmi a cosa corrisponde, in termini di processori intel, un amd k6? Mi rispondo, eh, eh... OK, grazie a tutti delle info. Almeno adesso so cosa ho tra le mani ;-) -- Arwan
Re: [newbie-it] altro semi ot
Il mer, 2003-02-19 alle 13:26, Daniele Micci ha scritto: L'AMD K5 corrisponde (più o meno) ai primi Pentium, il K6 al Pentium MMX, il K6-2 al Pentium II (più o meno), il K6-III al Pentium III (primi modelli), l'Athlon ai vari modelli successivi del Pentium III, l'AthlonXP al Pentium IV. Visto che ho mollato da poco un K6-2 400, confermo la classificazione :) Tempo fa un saccentone sosteneva fossimo già ai processori 786... e parlo dell 2000! Vabbè... Cmq i primi PIV sono un po' azzoppati, non riescono a sprigionare la loro reale potenza, quindi credo che gli Athlon anche precedenti agli XP siano da considerarsi allo stesso livello dei primi PIV se non superiore... Corrado
Re: [newbie-it] altro semi ot
Alle 23:39, mercoledì 19 febbraio 2003, Corrado ha scritto: Cmq i primi PIV sono un po' azzoppati, non riescono a sprigionare la loro reale potenza, quindi credo che gli Athlon anche precedenti agli XP siano da considerarsi allo stesso livello dei primi PIV se non superiore... Corrado Sì, confermo. Risulta da tutti i benchmark (e da prove dirette su PC di amici e conoscenti)... Daniele -- «Il mondo si divide in 10 tipi di persone: quelle che conoscono la numerazione binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.»
Re: [newbie] GUI Perl Editor with color coding
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 06:23 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: I am writing a bunch of perl scripts for setting up on apache on linux. I am currently creating them in windows using editors b/c of the colors of words and such. Is there such a thing for Linux? Obviously it is GUI. I love the EditPlus v2 GUI which is what i am using to do it in windows. Thanks Rob Hello! You might like to try kate (KDE advanced text editor), you've probably used it in it's lightweight incarnation kwrite. The feature I think you want [syntax highlighting] is: Document-Highlight Mode-Script-Perl (hence proving it is not a programming language :-)). It's also useful for people making other programs, BASIC, C, even Half-Life and Wolfenstein! Trolltech's QT Designer also has syntax highlighting, btw. If it's just a color scheme you want, kate also does that. Regards, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] GUI Perl Editor with color coding
You might like to try kate (KDE advanced text editor), you've probably used it in it's lightweight incarnation kwrite. The feature I think you want [syntax highlighting] is: Document-Highlight Mode-Script-Perl (hence proving it is not a programming language :-)). Wow. Dont use KDE that much but its what i am using at the moment. Didnt even know that program was there. Thanks Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] antivirus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hello Mohammad, Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 8:55:09 AM, you wrote: ms Will anybody please tell me how can I find a reliable ms antivirus for mandrake? Some time ago I heard some good words about the CLAM, which you may find at http://clamav.elektrapro.com - -- -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~~ PGP key: 633F6D07 (1A1C 29F1 2A0C 4C4E 0BDA C8EE 5A1D 9F03 633F 6D07) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP%20KeyBody=Embedded%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GPG%20KeyBody=Attached%20key ~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: PGP-signed for authentication. iD8DBQE+Uz6fWh2fA2M/bQcRAyT5AKCYOmR476eLTVhv5IGkldrgn6yv7gCeJ25K 95hoA5Ir7v4w3R61DRDiYQc= =rbEq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PCMCIA wireless card
Did you check that /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia contains PCMCIA=yes? And do you hear two 'beeps' from your computer when booting? The DWL-650 is supported by Mandrake using the wvlan_cs driver by default. derk On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 5:24 am, Noah A Hicks wrote: Some information I forgot to include: PCMCIA wireless card make: D-Link Model: DWL-650 I saw on a website I can't remember that this card was supported in Linux. The website didn't mention how difficult it might be to get it running ;). -Noah On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Noah A Hicks wrote: Well derek, I did exactly as you said but I don't see any thing on the MDK control center wizard regarding wireless networking. It only shows my ethernet card. I installed the RPMS you suggested with grpmi. dmesg does not show anything with PCMCIA. I have found an article on: http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/02/17/1610206.shtml?tid=14 with looks really similar to my problem. I have tried the first few steps with no success. Any other pointers? Thanks alot Noah On Tuesday 18 Feb 2003 5:35 am, Noah A Hicks wrote: Could anyone tell me the basic steps to getting a pcmcia wireless card setup on MDK 9.0? I have just purchased a card and I recall MDK Linux setup asking me if I had a PCMCIA card but at that time I did not. I've looked at: http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ and I downloaded the file from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/pcmcia-cs/ but I don't know if I should start unpacking this file and compiling everything or if MDK has some way of setting it up. The system seems to know that something has happened when I plug it in, so maybe it's just a matter of loading modules into the kernel. I have no idea. Thanks for any info, -Noah No do not compile anything. Everything is already available. If you did not have a pcmcia adapter in your computer when you installed then you need to install pcmcia-cs which is already on your CDs. Just use your Mandrake Software Manager. You will also need to install wireless-tools RPM (from your CD) Next take a look at the file /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia and make sure it says PCMCIA=yes Now do a reboot with your card plugged in and you should hear some 'beeps' when the Pcmcia slot is activated. Now just go through the networking wizard in Mandrake Control Centre, and hopefully it will detetct your card type and offer you the wireless parameters to set up. The important ones are :- MODE Managed or Ad-Hoc ESSID to match your network RATE 11M KEY your encryption key either in Hex as 11:22:33:44:55 , or in ascii as s:mykey You did not actually say what type if card you have. So we will have to guess if it is a supported model. If it does not work type dmesg in a terminal and look for the setup messages for the pcmcia slot. HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Apache and running cgi scripts
Apache and Perl/Mod_perl are installed. The perl scripts work it i run perl zipcodes.cgi. Basically i am going through Graid Hunts Apache Server 1st Edition by Charles Aulds. The scripts work fine, they arent the issue. Basically you type in a zip code into the text box and then it runs a perl script (zipcode.html runs zipcodes.cgi after inputing a zipcode into a text box and clicking submit), which then access the MySQL server on the localhost. The user/group apache owns all files in /home/httpd (this is not internet accessible since i have another box running my outside sites) and the permissions are set to 777. The problem that i am having is that when i click submit it comes up to a screen stating You do not have permission to access /zipcodes.cgi on this server. # tree /home/httpd/ /home/httpd/ |-- cgi-bin | `-- zipcodes.cgi |-- html | `-- www | `-- zipcode.html `-- perl `-- cgi.pm My httpd.conf and commonhttpd.conf are attached for info on how i have apache setup. ]# rpm -qa|grep apache|sort apache-1.3.26-6.1mdk apache-common-1.3.26-6.1mdk apache-conf-1.3.26-3mdk apache-mod_perl-1.3.26_1.27-7mdk apache-modules-1.3.26-6.1mdk # rpm -qa|grep perl|sort apache-mod_perl-1.3.26_1.27-7mdk libpgperl-7.2.2-1.2mdk mod_perl-common-1.3.26_1.27-7mdk perl-5.8.0-13mdk perl-Authen-PAM-0.13-3mdk perl-base-5.8.0-13mdk perl-CGI-2.810-3mdk perl-Crypt-SSLeay-0.45-1mdk perl-Data-ShowTable-3.3-7mdk perl-DateManip-5.40-4mdk perl-DB_File-1.804-3mdk perl-DBI-1.30-2mdk perl-devel-5.8.0-13mdk perl-Expect-1.15-2mdk perlftlib-1.2-16mdk perl-GTK-0.7008-24mdk perl-GTK-GdkImlib-0.7008-24mdk perl-GTK-GdkPixbuf-0.7008-24mdk perl-GTK-Glade-0.7008-24mdk perl-GTK-GLArea-0.7008-24mdk perl-GTK-Gnome-0.7008-24mdk perl-HTML-Parser-3.26-3mdk perl-HTML-SimpleParse-0.10-7mdk perl-HTML-Tagset-3.03-5mdk perl-IO-stringy-2.108-4mdk perl-IO-Stty-02-2mdk perl-IO-Tty-1.02-3mdk perl-libwww-perl-5.65-4mdk perl-Locale-gettext-1.01-6mdk perl-MailTools-1.47-1mdk perl-MDK-Common-1.0.3-16mdk perl-MIME-tools-5.411-4mdk perl-MP3-Info-1.01-2mdk perl-Msgcat-1.03-12mdk perl-Mysql-1.22_19-5mdk perl-Net_SSLeay-1.18-3mdk perl-Parse-RecDescent-1.80-6mdk perl-PDL-2.3.3-4mdk perl-Term-Readline-Gnu-1.12-6mdk perl-Tk-800.023-9mdk perl-URI-1.20-1mdk perl-URPM-0.70-10mdk perl-XML-Parser-2.31-5mdk perl-XML-Twig-3.05-4mdk TIA Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 22:17, John Richard Smith wrote: I am getting random intermittent monditor shutdown and return when under X windows. It does not seem to happen under W2K. I have W2K, M9.0, and M9.1beta3 on, with spare ext2+ NT partitions . I seemed to begin after I installed beta3, though I'm not suggesting one way or the other , whether that has anything at all to do with it. Any thoughts ? John I'd be led to wonder if it's a flaky Energy Savings issue - are you in KDE, or GrrrGNOME? I'm in kde. sorry to say I seldom choose gnome, though I do install it. Yes, maybe you are right. I can be doing something , anything at all, answering this email, literally anything, and you get that Thun sound from the monitor, a black screen for a second and then a return to desktop exactly where you were when it went down. It's definately not a dodgy screen saver problem, so I suppose that only leaves APM, but if so it's in both M9.0 and M9.1beta3. Now, I just took a look at linux kernel configurator and it did say APM was enabled, ie ticked, so I disabled it for a while to see if that helps.I suppose I ought to of looked there earlier. I cannot do the same in M9.1beta3 as the kde kernel confiurator programme is not there . Unless someone knows how to turn it off permanently on the Cl it will have to stay enabled if indeed it is. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Print problems
Anne, Yes, I have the same problem with xpdf when receiving Fax to E-mail via www.fido.net. Yet I can print it out from the command line (lpr file). I believe I saw some time ago, another who couldn't print from Acrobat. In view of this I get my Faxes sent to my E-mail box as a ps file and use KGostView which I find a superb piece of software from which I can print. Malcolm Candlish. On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 12:54, Anne Wilson wrote: From time to time I have problems printing from Acrobat. The file goes to KPrinter, then immediately disappears. The error message that appears after every (not just the failed) printjob is KDirWatch: /etc/security/fileshare.conf is a file. Use addFile! Does anyone understand this message? Is it relevant to my print problem? Any advice? Anne -- Malcolm Candlish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Print problems
On Tuesday 18 Feb 2003 10:37 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Anne, Yes, I have the same problem with xpdf when receiving Fax to E-mail via www.fido.net. Yet I can print it out from the command line (lpr file). I believe I saw some time ago, another who couldn't print from Acrobat. In view of this I get my Faxes sent to my E-mail box as a ps file and use KGostView which I find a superb piece of software from which I can print. Thanks Malcolm. Most of the time Acrobat prints fine for me, though. The reason I like Acrobat is its ease of scaling. I hate on-line manuals and tend to print them out if it's an app that I really want to understand, so I scale A4 to A5, getting a comfortable sized manual g As an aside - you spoke of receiving faxes. Is fido.net a fax forwarding setup, like the one I use from Tiscali? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability
John Richard Smith wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 22:17, John Richard Smith wrote: I'd be led to wonder if it's a flaky Energy Savings issue - are you in KDE, or GrrrGNOME? this email, literally anything, and you get that Thun sound from the monitor, john, i agree with stephen about 'energy savings issue' and i am wondering just what you mean by monitor making a 'thun' sound. most color monitors have a degaussing coil around front outer edge of crt. most, when _first_ powered on, will make such a sound. it is caused by magnetic field attracting metal screen dot mask and metal shielding around crt. _normally_, there is no degaussing after power is first applied. could this possible be sound you are referring to? if so, then you may be having a power supply problem with your monitor. you could test this theory by placing a compass against monitor at outer edge and noting needle swing. first try it when monitor is first powered on, leave compass in place and wait for monitor to go blank again and watch needle. a far out test, but it may well help you locate problem. and, yes. i just check my monitor to see for sure that compass needle would swing. and, no, it does not swing afer monitor has been on and comes out of energy save mode. good luck. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Re: [newbie] Ethernet Interface
Thanks for your advise, I'll try that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Derek Jennings Sent: 18 February 2003 10:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] Ethernet Interface OK...Some random thoughts You have 2 NICS. Are you sure you are configuring the correct one? Could eth1 be the device to use? Your NIC is on irq5 is anything else using irq5 ? An Interrupt conflict can cause funny things to happen. (KDE ControlCentreInformationInterrupts will show you) If there is a conflict, play with your BIOS settings or move the card to a different slot (if it is not built in) Disabling unused devices in the BIOS will also cause Interrupt lines to be be reconfigured. Also set the BIOS parameter PnpAwareOS=No What do you see if you type 'route' in a root terminal? Is the default route set up to use that interface? If not then delete the current default route with 'route del default' and create a new one with 'route add default dev eth0' HTH derek On Tuesday 18 Feb 2003 5:29 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I followed your instructions and the card is now set to 10Mps half duplex but i still can't ping the other machine. Thanks for the tool is good to know. It's look like that nothing can go out or in from the networkcard. Am I doing something really wrong on that card? Do you think I need to change it to something else? From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/02/18 Tue PM 04:36:06 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] Ethernet Interface It sometimes happens that the autonegotiation used by Ethernet devices to select 10/100Mbps, half/full duplex fails. In this case you can force the interface to a particular mode. The driver used for your card should be 8139too (you can confirm this by looking at the file /etc/modules.conf one line should read alias eth0 8139too ) There is a tool available which can set the mode of your interface. Install the net-tools RPM from your Mandrake CDs using Software Manager. (TIP: enter 'urpmi net-tools' in a root terminal for a faster way to install software) Then try mii-tool in a root terminal to see if that can read the card status. To force 10Mbps operation half duplex (normally needed with a hub) mii-tool --force=10baseT-HD eth0 These settings will not survive a reboot, so if they fix your problem let me know and I will show you how to make them permanent. HTH derek On Tuesday 18 Feb 2003 3:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah maybe this is the problem, my network card is an 100Mps and my hub just 10Mps, maybe the speed on the network card is not correct for the hub. But otherwise on the back of the NIC the light is on and the hub as well. JP From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/02/18 Tue PM 03:03:26 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] Ethernet Interface And do the correct lights come on the Ethernet card/hub to indicate 10/100 Mbps ? derek On Tuesday 18 Feb 2003 12:59 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i ran the mandrake wizard and i have now ip address 192.168.254.10 on eht0 and eht0 is up. to test the card I ping 192.168.254.10 and it does reply correctly, then i plugged it into a hub where i have an other machine with an ip address 192.168.254.17. Both machine can't see each other, if i try to ping 192.168.254.17 from 192.168.254.10 it does not work. From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/02/18 Tue AM 11:59:20 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] Ethernet Interface On Tuesday 18 Feb 2003 10:01 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, my system: processor athlon xp 1800 motherboard ECS K7S6A with SiS745 chipsets memory 250Mb DDR soundcard integrated to the motherboard sis7012 PCI 2 NIC realtek RTL8139 videocard sis315 router from british telecom (BT 5861 router) with NAT JP From: Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/02/17 Mon PM 11:19:38 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 February 2003 05:57 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for your reply derek yes my system is working with win2000. here's my ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BF:33:58:03 Broadcast Multicast MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:0 (0.0b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:5 Base Address:0x8000 Well the Interface is not UP, and you do not have an IP address Type
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability
g wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 22:17, John Richard Smith wrote: I'd be led to wonder if it's a flaky Energy Savings issue - are you in KDE, or GrrrGNOME? this email, literally anything, and you get that Thun sound from the monitor, john, i agree with stephen about 'energy savings issue' and i am wondering just what you mean by monitor making a 'thun' sound. most color monitors have a degaussing coil around front outer edge of crt. most, when _first_ powered on, will make such a sound. it is caused by magnetic field attracting metal screen dot mask and metal shielding around crt. _normally_, there is no degaussing after power is first applied. could this possible be sound you are referring to? if so, then you may be having a power supply problem with your monitor. Yes that is it, normally the Thunggg happens on first powerup from dead, I don't normally hear it again until close down. Just recently the monitor has been randomly powering off with this noise, a moments black screen, and then back to whereever I was on desktop, nothing lost ,and it does it automatically I'm not having to reset anything, I feel it's a monitor / power problem, except that maybe the OS is telling it to do this. I don't know, or is it a problem inside the monitor. I had assumed it was to do with the OS since when I'm in Windblows there doesn't seem to be the same problem, so if it was a monitor power problem surely it would be the same there, only of course I don't spend as much time there as in Mandrake, but I think it is true nevertheless. If it was a transfomer problem it would do it in windblows. My best guess is that something in Mandrake OS is randomly telling monitor to powerdown and then switching itself back on again.That is why I thought of APM, but I'm not over confident about it. I don't really know. I suppose the question is what possible combination problems could be causing the monitor to randomly powerdown and back on again, are they OS, or hardware in nature, and what specifically ? Could a buildup of static cause that ? John John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability (Thungggg sound from the monitor)
Quite possibly the sound that you are hearing is your monitor switching modes. I have heard this sound many times, especially on multi-sync monitors. Maybe I am wrong, but I hear this sound every day when I boot into MDK 9.0 and my monitor is 5 years old and has not blown up yet... Anyone else hear this noise? Hope it helps. Mudder At 10:59 AM 2/19/2003 +, you wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 22:17, John Richard Smith wrote: I'd be led to wonder if it's a flaky Energy Savings issue - are you in KDE, or GrrrGNOME? this email, literally anything, and you get that Thun sound from the monitor, john, i agree with stephen about 'energy savings issue' and i am wondering just what you mean by monitor making a 'thun' sound. most color monitors have a degaussing coil around front outer edge of crt. most, when _first_ powered on, will make such a sound. it is caused by magnetic field attracting metal screen dot mask and metal shielding around crt. _normally_, there is no degaussing after power is first applied. could this possible be sound you are referring to? if so, then you may be having a power supply problem with your monitor. you could test this theory by placing a compass against monitor at outer edge and noting needle swing. first try it when monitor is first powered on, leave compass in place and wait for monitor to go blank again and watch needle. a far out test, but it may well help you locate problem. and, yes. i just check my monitor to see for sure that compass needle would swing. and, no, it does not swing afer monitor has been on and comes out of energy save mode. good luck. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] muliti-boot
In linux loader I added Linux with SCSI and Linux with normal ATAPI I havn't free space in case so somtimes i just swich CD-rom or sometimes cd-recorder. My problem is how to create file /etc/fstab which include this 2 option. In the other hand the problem is in link: ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom -- by Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 07:08 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Yes that is it, normally the Thunggg happens on first powerup from dead, I don't normally hear it again until close down. Just recently the monitor has been randomly powering off with this noise, a moments black screen, and then back to whereever I was on desktop, nothing lost ,and it does it automatically I'm not having to reset anything, I feel it's a monitor / power problem, except that maybe the OS is telling it to do this. I don't know, or is it a problem inside the monitor. I had assumed it was to do with the OS since when I'm in Windblows there doesn't seem to be the same problem, so if it was a monitor power problem surely it would be the same there, only of course I don't spend as much time there as in Mandrake, but I think it is true nevertheless. If it was a transfomer problem it would do it in windblows. My best guess is that something in Mandrake OS is randomly telling monitor to powerdown and then switching itself back on again.That is why I thought of APM, but I'm not over confident about it. I don't really know. That sounds like th esame sound I get when I degauss my monitor. IS it realigning itself for some reason? - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+U3dmGu5uuMFlL5MRAqomAJ4jhlRPUCw0/sPzpU+VydjL0cr0sACaAw0d nNZF/Kp56X3q7qWL/iyn5D8= =t4wk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can you help me with my NIC?
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 02:22 am, Michael Kostis wrote: hey, i got your email of mandrake posting. I was wondering if you could help me figure out how to install my netgear FA311 NIC. I saw it listed in your specs. Any help would be most grateful. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com how far along with it are you, do you need instructions on how to remove the cover of the computer box? or just how to setup networking? or just how to get this card working in a working network in Mandrake? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No CDROM read again
On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 03:38, Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 18 February 2003 06:58 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Here is my fstab : /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 snip most of it answering my own post. I should have known better, It was a permissions problem. Somehow the cdrom and cdrecorder files in /dev were set to root permissions only. I am not sure what else to set them to so I set them to my user name and can now access cdrom and cdwriter. I wish I would remember to check the basic stuff before getting frustrated and blowing it all away. Civileme once told me you should never have to reinstall Ha, that applies only if you have some inkling of what you are doing. I keep learning. Some things I keep learning over again. looks like your'e using K3b. I had the same permission problems and multiple entries in fstab after I installed it. -- Regards Pete ArdnamurchanScotland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Ethernet Interface
On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 7:28 pm, Jean-Pierre Real wrote: You have 2 NICS. Are you sure you are configuring the correct one? Could eth1 be the device to use? Your NIC is on irq5 is anything else using irq5 ? An Interrupt conflict can cause funny things to happen. I had a very similar thing happen yesterday on a win98 machine. I had changed a hardware configuration, which must have made it re-arrange irqs. As in your case irq5 was used by the nic, but it was sharing it with SB.legacy driver. I could sometimes see the network name with just that user in it, and other times I could not see the network at all, nor could I ping the router. I disabled the SBdriver, which was not required anyway, and everything began to behave exactly as it should. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability (Thungggg sound from the monitor)
Mudder wrote: Quite possibly the sound that you are hearing is your monitor switching modes. I have heard this sound many times, especially on multi-sync monitors. Maybe I am wrong, but I hear this sound every day when I boot into MDK 9.0 and my monitor is 5 years old and has not blown up yet... Anyone else hear this noise? yes, It's quite normal to hear that on startup and shutdown, but I'm getting it randomly during use. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PCMCIA wireless card
/etc/sysconfig/pcmcia does contain PCMCIA=yes, however, the two beeps were not heard at bootup and upon starting GNOME I got the message could not open device /dev/sound/mixer so apparently booting up with the card in kicks my sound card offline. I just rechecked to make sure that the RPMs were installed as you said and they were. -Noah On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Derek Jennings wrote: Did you check that /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia contains PCMCIA=yes? And do you hear two 'beeps' from your computer when booting? The DWL-650 is supported by Mandrake using the wvlan_cs driver by default. derk On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 5:24 am, Noah A Hicks wrote: Some information I forgot to include: PCMCIA wireless card make: D-Link Model: DWL-650 I saw on a website I can't remember that this card was supported in Linux. The website didn't mention how difficult it might be to get it running ;). -Noah On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Noah A Hicks wrote: Well derek, I did exactly as you said but I don't see any thing on the MDK control center wizard regarding wireless networking. It only shows my ethernet card. I installed the RPMS you suggested with grpmi. dmesg does not show anything with PCMCIA. I have found an article on: http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/02/17/1610206.shtml?tid=14 with looks really similar to my problem. I have tried the first few steps with no success. Any other pointers? Thanks alot Noah On Tuesday 18 Feb 2003 5:35 am, Noah A Hicks wrote: Could anyone tell me the basic steps to getting a pcmcia wireless card setup on MDK 9.0? I have just purchased a card and I recall MDK Linux setup asking me if I had a PCMCIA card but at that time I did not. I've looked at: http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ and I downloaded the file from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/pcmcia-cs/ but I don't know if I should start unpacking this file and compiling everything or if MDK has some way of setting it up. The system seems to know that something has happened when I plug it in, so maybe it's just a matter of loading modules into the kernel. I have no idea. Thanks for any info, -Noah No do not compile anything. Everything is already available. If you did not have a pcmcia adapter in your computer when you installed then you need to install pcmcia-cs which is already on your CDs. Just use your Mandrake Software Manager. You will also need to install wireless-tools RPM (from your CD) Next take a look at the file /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia and make sure it says PCMCIA=yes Now do a reboot with your card plugged in and you should hear some 'beeps' when the Pcmcia slot is activated. Now just go through the networking wizard in Mandrake Control Centre, and hopefully it will detetct your card type and offer you the wireless parameters to set up. The important ones are :- MODE Managed or Ad-Hoc ESSID to match your network RATE 11M KEY your encryption key either in Hex as 11:22:33:44:55 , or in ascii as s:mykey You did not actually say what type if card you have. So we will have to guess if it is a supported model. If it does not work type dmesg in a terminal and look for the setup messages for the pcmcia slot. HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability (Thungggg sound from the monitor)
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 08:29 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Mudder wrote: Quite possibly the sound that you are hearing is your monitor switching modes. I have heard this sound many times, especially on multi-sync monitors. Maybe I am wrong, but I hear this sound every day when I boot into MDK 9.0 and my monitor is 5 years old and has not blown up yet... Anyone else hear this noise? yes, It's quite normal to hear that on startup and shutdown, but I'm getting it randomly during use. John have you tried to see if it goes away with a lower resolution? what are you running at? and what is the type and model of monitor? does it happen just waitting for the screensaver, or only when you are working with it? what is the type and model video card. Sorry about comming into this thread so late and asking a bunch of questions that you might have already answered and then they got snipped Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PCMCIA wireless card
In that case open MandrakeControlCentreSystemServices and check that pcmcia is set to start at boot, and if it already is then you may have an IRQ conflict between your pcmcia slot and your sound card. You can check that in KDE Control CentreInformationInterrupts (I daresay there is a Gnome equivalent) If you have an IRQ conflict you have to fix it in your BIOS. Start by setting PnPAwareOS=no, then if you are unable to assign IRQ lines in your BIOS, try disabling unused devices, or moving cards to different slots. It can be a bit of a PITA getting the IRQ lines right. derek On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 1:42 pm, Noah A Hicks wrote: /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia does contain PCMCIA=yes, however, the two beeps were not heard at bootup and upon starting GNOME I got the message could not open device /dev/sound/mixer so apparently booting up with the card in kicks my sound card offline. I just rechecked to make sure that the RPMs were installed as you said and they were. -Noah On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Derek Jennings wrote: Did you check that /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia contains PCMCIA=yes? And do you hear two 'beeps' from your computer when booting? The DWL-650 is supported by Mandrake using the wvlan_cs driver by default. derk On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 5:24 am, Noah A Hicks wrote: Some information I forgot to include: PCMCIA wireless card make: D-Link Model: DWL-650 I saw on a website I can't remember that this card was supported in Linux. The website didn't mention how difficult it might be to get it running ;). -Noah On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Noah A Hicks wrote: Well derek, I did exactly as you said but I don't see any thing on the MDK control center wizard regarding wireless networking. It only shows my ethernet card. I installed the RPMS you suggested with grpmi. dmesg does not show anything with PCMCIA. I have found an article on: http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/02/17/1610206.shtml?tid=14 with looks really similar to my problem. I have tried the first few steps with no success. Any other pointers? Thanks alot Noah On Tuesday 18 Feb 2003 5:35 am, Noah A Hicks wrote: Could anyone tell me the basic steps to getting a pcmcia wireless card setup on MDK 9.0? I have just purchased a card and I recall MDK Linux setup asking me if I had a PCMCIA card but at that time I did not. I've looked at: http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ and I downloaded the file from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/pcmcia-cs/ but I don't know if I should start unpacking this file and compiling everything or if MDK has some way of setting it up. The system seems to know that something has happened when I plug it in, so maybe it's just a matter of loading modules into the kernel. I have no idea. Thanks for any info, -Noah No do not compile anything. Everything is already available. If you did not have a pcmcia adapter in your computer when you installed then you need to install pcmcia-cs which is already on your CDs. Just use your Mandrake Software Manager. You will also need to install wireless-tools RPM (from your CD) Next take a look at the file /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia and make sure it says PCMCIA=yes Now do a reboot with your card plugged in and you should hear some 'beeps' when the Pcmcia slot is activated. Now just go through the networking wizard in Mandrake Control Centre, and hopefully it will detetct your card type and offer you the wireless parameters to set up. The important ones are :- MODE Managed or Ad-Hoc ESSID to match your network RATE 11M KEY your encryption key either in Hex as 11:22:33:44:55 , or in ascii as s:mykey You did not actually say what type if card you have. So we will have to guess if it is a supported model. If it does not work type dmesg in a terminal and look for the setup messages for the pcmcia slot. HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC1 and network problem.
On Wednesday February 19 2003 01:53 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: All, It seems rc1 has the same realtek problem as the rest of the beta's. You cannot use dhcp you must have a fixed ip address to make it work. I hope bugzilla sorts it out before final. Tony. I have a d-link card that works fine on a dynamic IP pppoe connection using dhcp. They're only $10. But, IIRC, there was quite a bit of discussion about some problem NICs. I believe realtek and 3com were involved. Have you searched the cooker archives for a fix ? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerr=1w=2 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 12:13, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 February 2003 10:29 am, Rifza Adriansyah wrote: palestinians use suicidal bombs, it is called terorists but If Israeli F-16 jetfighters bomb palestinian houses, it is just called self-defence. Well, everyone has owned opinion. I can't do something The difference being that if there were no suicide bombings, there would be no retaliations by Isreal. I'm not sure how you can equte the two, although based on what you say, apparently many people do. If I punch someone in the arm, I expect him to punch me back. I would bet that if the suicide bombings stopped, so would the retaliations. You are exactly right on this issue. This pretty much sums it up. to make this earth is safe, peace, prosperous to everyone alone. I think if we respect each other, make fair judges about something, we can live in this planet happily or we should leave this planet and build new human civilization in planet Mars :-). We can't do that, there are no more space shuttles :-) There are Atlantis and Discovery. You were joking here, right? - -- Greg LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk Mandrake Cooker 9.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5-12mdkEvolution 1.2.2-1mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability
On Wednesday February 19 2003 04:27 am, John Richard Smith wrote: I suppose that only leaves APM, but if so it's in both M9.0 and M9.1beta3. Now, I just took a look at linux kernel configurator and it did say APM was enabled, ie ticked, so I disabled it for a while to see if that helps.I suppose I ought to of looked there earlier. I cannot do the same in M9.1beta3 as the kde kernel confiurator programme is not there . Unless someone knows how to turn it off permanently on the Cl it will have to stay enabled if indeed it is. John Have you tried putting 'acpi=off' in lilo.conf's append line? Don't forget to run 'lilo' and then reboot. I don't think apm is the problem, but acpi probly is. You might also try a lower resolution and/or color depth (bpp) till you get this sorted out. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] RC1 and network problem.
Tom, I was on cooker the other day and a guy had the same problem with a realtek card, he's posted to bugzilla, and the current workaround is having fixed rather than dynamic ip. I am happy with that till bugzilla gets it's teeth into it. My card came with my cable connection. On a side note my cable company have screwed up and have given me a 1 mb pipe for the last week so far. Makes getting rc1 a whole lot easier, I had disk 1 2 before the 3rd disk hit the proxad ftp site. lol Tony. ps All, apologies for return receipts on some posts, I use them for work and sometimes forget to turn them off for list posts. -Original Message- From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] RC1 and network problem. On Wednesday February 19 2003 01:53 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: All, It seems rc1 has the same realtek problem as the rest of the beta's. You cannot use dhcp you must have a fixed ip address to make it work. I hope bugzilla sorts it out before final. Tony. I have a d-link card that works fine on a dynamic IP pppoe connection using dhcp. They're only $10. But, IIRC, there was quite a bit of discussion about some problem NICs. I believe realtek and 3com were involved. Have you searched the cooker archives for a fix ? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerr=1w=2 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Postfix and Kmail
My local mail gets put in /var/spool/mail/username. However I would like to read it in Kmail and so I have set up an incoming account which reads from /var/spool/mail/username, this is ok except that when I try to get mail I receive a message could not lock /var/spool/mail/username. If I change the permissioms on /var/spool/mail/ to let others write entries everything works fine for a while until something (?msec) changes the permissions back to what they were. Can anyone tell me an elegant solution to this problem please? -- Regards Pete ArdnamurchanScotland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] make modules fails in 9.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, I am having a problem trying to make modules on my 9.0 box, I keep getting this error make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers' make -C atm modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers/atm' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/home/quintela/rpm/kernel/BUILD/linux-2.4.19/include/linux/module.h', needed by `eni.o'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers/atm' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_atm] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers' make: *** [_mod_drivers] Error 2 does anyone have any idea how this can be fixed? Thanks, - -- D. McGlone Edification Web Solutions http://www.edificationweb.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+U5moAulWMV3BRjARAq8LAJ0ZIKrSbkIdeN2NSRek2GLkxwpwtwCeL4DG JHdVYtymhIxjffRIiJ8r53I= =TuuJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] make modules fails in 9.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, I am having a problem trying to make modules on my 9.0 box, I keep getting this error make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers' make -C atm modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers/atm' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/home/quintela/rpm/kernel/BUILD/linux-2.4.19/include/linux/module.h', needed by `eni.o'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers/atm' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_atm] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers' make: *** [_mod_drivers] Error 2 does anyone have any idea how this can be fixed? Thanks, - -- D. McGlone Edification Web Solutions http://www.edificationweb.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+U5zCAulWMV3BRjARAglQAKCKoiLbD5GsbBw2M1ya5XEIrf1FZACfZSAe 5HrMf16jJyguGh4r3PY/cag= =+tUJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and Kmail
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 02:38:58PM +, Peter Watson wrote: My local mail gets put in /var/spool/mail/username. However I would like to read it in Kmail and so I have set up an incoming account which reads from /var/spool/mail/username, this is ok except that when I try to get mail I receive a message could not lock /var/spool/mail/username. If I change the permissioms on /var/spool/mail/ to let others write entries everything works fine for a while until something (?msec) changes the permissions back to what they were. Can anyone tell me an elegant solution to this problem please? -- Regards Pete Ardnamurchan Scotland Sylpheed :) Does Kmail give you the option to specify that it's a local account (as opposed to POP3 or IMAP)? Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Urpmi can't locate base.pm after update
Hi all, I recently did a clean install of mdk 8.2 and used these commands to update: urpmi.addmedia --update PlzWork ftp site with ../base/RPMS then urpmi --update --auto-select The packages appear to have updated, however, I cannot use URPMI any more. Whenever I type urpmi package name I get this error: Can't locate base.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/urpm.pm line 5. BEGIN falied--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/urpm.pm line 5. Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 20. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 20. any ideas? I did a Higher security install of mdk 8.2 if it matters... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability
On Wednesday February 19 2003 06:08 am, John Richard Smith wrote: been randomly powering off with this noise, a moments black screen, and then back to whereever I was on desktop, nothing lost ,and it does it automatically I'm not having to reset anything, I feel it's a monitor / power problem, except that maybe the OS is telling it to do this. I don't know, or is it a problem inside the monitor. I had assumed it was to do with the OS since when I'm in Windblows there doesn't seem to be the same problem, so if it was a monitor power problem surely it would be the same there, only of course I don't spend as much time there as in Mandrake, but I think it is true nevertheless. If it was a transfomer problem it would do it in windblows. You might wanna rethink all that. Up till and including Win 9x, don't know about newer versions but I'm sure it's a similar scenario, 99% of all monitors use either monitor.inf or monitor2.inf. If you look inside those text files, you'll find that M$ sets up inexpensive low end monitors, and high end expensive ones, regardless of brand and model .all with the same (very conservative) settings. No matter which monitor brand and model you choose to setup, they all get lumped together and driven below specs. There's actually good reason for doing this. Many monitor manufacturers overstate their product specs, and M$ users don't have problems to report. Linux OTOH, tries to run monitors at the top end of the manufacturers' specs and then some have problems. It's the main reason many (specially those with good monitors) report their screen 'just looks better' with Linux than when it's in Windoze. BTW, I believe the sound you mention is the relay on the monitor's power supply. While you're up and running and you hear this, the monitor is probly getting overheated or overloaded or both, and the relay opens to avoid catastophic failure. It could also just be a bad relay or one going bad, or voltage drops from the power source. Do you have another monitor to try? If not, try runnin XFdrake and choose 'generic' or 'plug and play' monitor. It might help to try a little more relaxed settings. Another thing you might check is to use a vohm meter to see if you're gettin proper voltage out of the elec. socket. Failing that, try pluggin the monitor into an UPS. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and Kmail
On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 2:38 pm, Peter Watson wrote:
My local mail gets put in /var/spool/mail/username. However I would like to
read it in Kmail and so I have set up an incoming account which reads from
/var/spool/mail/username, this is ok except that when I try to get mail I
receive a message could not lock /var/spool/mail/username.
If I change the permissioms on /var/spool/mail/ to let others write entries
everything works fine for a while until something (?msec) changes the
permissions back to what they were.
Can anyone tell me an elegant solution to this problem please?
If you were to read your mail spool at the same time as postfix was writing to
it, nasty things can happen. So to avoid this a lockfile is created before
Postfix starts writing, and will be deleted again when it is finished. Kmail
will not try to read the spool if the lockfile is present. Similarly Kmail
will create the lockfile before reading.
The default lockfile is /var/spool/mail/user_name.lock which your user does
not have write permission to hence your problem.
To fix it you could either configure your Kmail to not bother with the
lockfile (in the account settings), or else you could use procmail to define
a different lockfile.
If a ~/.procmailrc file exists postfix will pass mails over to procmail for
final delivery. An example ~/.procmailrc looks like this:-
SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/include:/usr/local/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
LOCKFILE=/home/derek/.procmail/lockfile.lock
DEFAULT=/home/derek/Maildir
JUNKMAIL=/home/derek/junkmail
LOCKTIMEOUT=10
LOGFILE=~/procmail.log
LOGABSTRACT=all
VERBOSE=no
#Run SpamAssasin
:0fw
| spamassassin -a -P
:0e
{
EXITCODE=$?
}
:0: $LOCKFILE
* ^Subject:.*\*\*\*\*SPAM\*\*\*\*
$JUNKMAIL
# Catches everything else.
:0 : $LOCKFILE
$DEFAULT
In this configuration mails end up in ~/Maildir, and the lockfile is
~/lockfile.lock. This procmailrc also runs spamassassin to mark suspect
emails and put them into a mailfolder called JUNKMAIL
See man procmailrc
HTH
derek
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Re: [newbie] PGP md5sums
On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 16:41, Miark wrote: Greg, The man page doesn't say anything about it using the PGP data. I'm guessing there's an extra step somewhere to use that. Miark Miark, if you like you can cat the .asc file and then do md5sum mandrake.iso.image.file Then match the result to what you see in the .asc file. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk Mandrake Cooker 9.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5-12mdkEvolution 1.2.2-1mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] What is rpmv ?
Two or three days ago I installed anacron. Now my box behaves like the good old 8.x days : Immediately after powering up, the CPU and HD go berserk, doing some tidying up and maintenance, I suppose. That's allright. But today I noticed another funny thing : this process took forever. When running top, I see there's a process called rpmv eating almost half of the CPU. No man or whatis entry for rpmv. Can someone enlighten an eternal newbie, please ? Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC1 and network problem.
On Wednesday February 19 2003 08:30 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Tom, I was on cooker the other day and a guy had the same problem with a realtek card, he's posted to bugzilla, and the current workaround is having fixed rather than dynamic ip. I am happy with that till bugzilla gets it's teeth into it. My card came with my cable connection. On a side note my cable company have screwed up and have given me a 1 mb pipe for the last week so far. Makes getting rc1 a whole lot easier, I had disk 1 2 before the 3rd disk hit the proxad ftp site. lol Tony. OK, I thought it had been reported. Unfortunately the alternative might end up being gettin another brand NIC that will work, if you're in a hurry ;( D-Links are cheap, work well. I've heard some less than flattering stuff about Syslink NICs lately, even security holes built into the hardware. Yeah, I got 1 2 before 3, but the mirror (sunsite) was a little slower than normal (busy as hell ;), and wouldn't allow 3 d/l's at the same time. Took 2 hrs, 34 mins to get the first two RC1 iso's simultaneously usin d4x on a 1.5 mb adsl connection. NBD, I d/l'd iso 3 while I was checking md5sums, and burnin 1 2 ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3.1's keyboard settings :o?
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 03:21, Damian Gatabria wrote: Did you install the i18n package for your language? Yes, yes, language is not a problem. everything is working fine except for the damn keyboard. Damian Fixed itself after logging out and back in. Thanks Greg for trying to help. Damian -- -- I don't want Windows to be only for the 31173. Yes, we've come a long way from all those security holes, virii, and cryptic commands like Edit textfile.txt (what in the hell is that supposed to mean?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What is rpmv ?
Kaj Haulrich wrote: Two or three days ago I installed anacron. Now my box behaves like the good old 8.x days : Immediately after powering up, the CPU and HD go berserk, doing some tidying up and maintenance, I suppose. That's allright. But today I noticed another funny thing : this process took forever. When running top, I see there's a process called rpmv eating almost half of the CPU. No man or whatis entry for rpmv. Can someone enlighten an eternal newbie, please ? Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === FORMAT C: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- jakobite1.5#@ 1.75 yrs its all gone tits up lads Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PCMCIA wireless card
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 08:59 am, Derek Jennings wrote: In that case open MandrakeControlCentreSystemServices and check that pcmcia is set to start at boot, and if it already is then you may have an IRQ conflict between your pcmcia slot and your sound card. You can check that in KDE Control CentreInformationInterrupts (I daresay there is a Gnome equivalent) You can also open a shell and type: cat /proc/interrupts to get the same result. Ah...Linux...so many ways to do things :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PGP md5sums
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 18 February 2003 04:41 pm, Miark wrote: The man page doesn't say anything about it using the PGP data. I'm guessing there's an extra step somewhere to use that. The md5sum utility does not use the PGP data. That is just a signature that you can use to verify that the md5sums have not been modified since they were posted bt MandrakeSoft. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+U7r1Gu5uuMFlL5MRApOWAJ9cZJi/b4BuKOA+sVgu5u9vmkA/MQCgjRwQ YT7BC4pUF+anVjO4kn/QWEY= =X+At -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and Kmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 09:38 am, Peter Watson wrote: My local mail gets put in /var/spool/mail/username. However I would like to read it in Kmail and so I have set up an incoming account which reads from /var/spool/mail/username, this is ok except that when I try to get mail I receive a message could not lock /var/spool/mail/username. If I change the permissioms on /var/spool/mail/ to let others write entries everything works fine for a while until something (?msec) changes the permissions back to what they were. Can anyone tell me an elegant solution to this problem please? I got around this problem by setting the locking mechanism in Kmail settings to Mutt dotlock priviledged. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+U7vKGu5uuMFlL5MRAuh9AJ9ULHZR3mgOQZ5OJ4k8xkDi2N67oACdEwcv 6z+ecfDFyszPKXfsWSMUKH4= =Z96X -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trouble with mime type/handler
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:44:31PM -0600, Harv Nelson wrote: I'm having trouble setting up a mime/handler for a particular URL. WXPR (http://www.wxpr.org) is the radio station. It seems most of the streaming is directed at Windows systems and IE browsers specifically. The audio URL is: http://wxpr.dwave.net:8004 a port number rather than a file name and extension. If I punch that URL into XMMS or RealPlayer directly from the keyboard, they both pick up the mp3 (I think its mp3) stream just fine. But, that sorta defeats the purpose and pleasures of this Clicking-hyper-media system. How do I configure a mime or handler in the browsers to use that URL with the port number? Thanks a bunch Harv Harv, Save the URI as a playlist. In your favorite editor, just type the URI and save it as, for example, wxpr.m3u. When you click (or double-click depending on your fm/wm) that file, it should open in whatever you have associated with playlists. That's probably xmms. PS--please remove the reply-to in your mailer as replies should go to the list. HTH, Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Fwd: RE: Swap Limits
-Forwarded Message- From: Sites, Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Swap Limits Date: 19 Feb 2003 13:50:24 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my understanding that swap partitions are limited in size to 2GB, yet Red Hat's documentation points that your swap partition should be 2x the size of your physical memory. Therefore, if you have a 2GB + of RAM, what is the best approach for sizing your swap partition? Using multiple swap partitions or just keeping a maximum of 2GB swap? This is another one of those It all depends type of answers. It truly does depend on what the server will be doing. If you are using the system to be a database server, or a server that has a lot of users that log in, then I would stick with the 2x rule of thumb on swap space. You are right in that the limit on swap partitions is 2GB, so you will have to use multiple swap partitions to achieve the size you want. As someone else mentioned, the physical arrangement of the swap partitions is something to keep in mind. Keep them off the same disks as your OS, applications, and data files, if possible. Another thing to think of is the priority of the swap files. If they are all on the same disk, then letting the system set a different priority for each one is fine. However, if you have your swap partitions spread across multiple disks, then you might want to consider setting all the swap partitions to the same priority so the swap reads and writes are spread evenly across all the disks giving you better performance in the event you use the swap space. Just my $.02! Brad Sites -- -- Thu, 20 Feb 2003 06:55:01 +1100 6:55am up 19:38, 4 users, load average: 0.77, 0.48, 0.39 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Some people have a way about them that seems to say: If I have only one life to live, let me live it as a jerk. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT - Linux Job Resources
I have put up a free Linux job site for Northern Colorado http://www.nichestaffing.com/nclj and have had really good response. One thing people keep asking from time to time is Do you know of a site like yours in this part of the country or that part of the world I would appreciate any feedback along these lines you might have, so I can contact the other sites about putting up a regional resource page as well. This would help people find the job resources that are available in different parts of the country/world when the need arrises. All input would be appreciated. Michael PS NicheStaffing is NOT a recruiting or staffing firm. We run a community of 26 data storage and networking technology job sites. -- Michael Lewis NicheStaffing.com WWW: http://www.nichestaffing.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 970-472-1241 Fax: 970-472-8397 Whatever you can conceive and believe, you can achieve Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What is rpmv ?
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 06:24 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday February 19 2003 11:18 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Two or three days ago I installed anacron. Now my box behaves like the good old 8.x days : Immediately after powering up, the CPU and HD go berserk, doing some tidying up and maintenance, I suppose. That's allright. But today I noticed another funny thing : this process took forever. When running top, I see there's a process called rpmv eating almost half of the CPU. No man or whatis entry for rpmv. It's a system, not a CL task. Think of it as rpm verify /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/Linuxs-20030211/RedHat-CD-H OWTO/ rhcd-scripts/rpmvc rpmvc$ less rvc.c * * $Id: rvc.c,v 1.5 2002/10/27 18:27:23 luigi Exp $ ** * rvc.c - RPM Version Compare * Given two strings representing a different version and release * of a single rpm package, it returns which one is newer or, * alternatively, an error. * snip Thanks Tom. That is more sensible than my google query, giving me something about drawing start-points in geometrical polygons (?). Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] latest SANE
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:57:53 -0500 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 18 February 2003 04:19 pm, Kristjan wrote: rebuilding end with error on halfway on compyling. I don't know if you saw my other posts, but there IS an updated sane package in the updates direcotry of the current dist tree. That should be available on the same mirrir you found the cooker packages on. If you still want to try and build, pos the error. /g - -- Greg Hi Greg the last lines before ending issued command rpmbuild --rebuild sane-1.0.11-5mdk.src.rpm grep: /usr/lib/libexif.la: No such file or directory sed: can't read /usr/lib/libexif.la: No such file or directory libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libexif.la' is not a valid libtool archive make[1]: *** [libsane-niash.la] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/sane-backends-1.0.11/backend' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.82129 (%build) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.82129 (%build) reason why I needed to have the latest is that my scanner (epson 1260 Photo) is ok and stable with this version, but has still promlems with 1.0.9 (the one in the update mirrors). Or just I have problems with getting my scanner work. Kristjan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and Kmail
On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 15:34, Derek Jennings wrote:
On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 2:38 pm, Peter Watson wrote:
My local mail gets put in /var/spool/mail/username. However I would
like to read it in Kmail and so I have set up an incoming account
which reads from /var/spool/mail/username, this is ok except that when
I try to get mail I receive a message could not lock
/var/spool/mail/username.
If I change the permissioms on /var/spool/mail/ to let others write
entries everything works fine for a while until something (?msec)
changes the permissions back to what they were.
Can anyone tell me an elegant solution to this problem please?
If you were to read your mail spool at the same time as postfix was
writing to it, nasty things can happen. So to avoid this a lockfile is
created before Postfix starts writing, and will be deleted again when it
is finished. Kmail will not try to read the spool if the lockfile is
present. Similarly Kmail will create the lockfile before reading.
The default lockfile is /var/spool/mail/user_name.lock which your user
does not have write permission to hence your problem.
To fix it you could either configure your Kmail to not bother with the
lockfile (in the account settings), or else you could use procmail to
define a different lockfile.
If a ~/.procmailrc file exists postfix will pass mails over to procmail
for final delivery. An example ~/.procmailrc looks like this:-
SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/include:/usr/local/sbin:/bi
n:/sbin:/usr/sbin MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
LOCKFILE=/home/derek/.procmail/lockfile.lock
DEFAULT=/home/derek/Maildir
JUNKMAIL=/home/derek/junkmail
LOCKTIMEOUT=10
LOGFILE=~/procmail.log
LOGABSTRACT=all
VERBOSE=no
#Run SpamAssasin
:0fw
:
| spamassassin -a -P
|
:0e
{
EXITCODE=$?
}
:0: $LOCKFILE
* ^Subject:.*\*\*\*\*SPAM\*\*\*\*
$JUNKMAIL
# Catches everything else.
:0 : $LOCKFILE
$DEFAULT
In this configuration mails end up in ~/Maildir, and the lockfile is
~/lockfile.lock. This procmailrc also runs spamassassin to mark suspect
emails and put them into a mailfolder called JUNKMAIL
See man procmailrc
HTH
derek
Derek
Thanks for the reply (and Tod and Greg). I created a ~/.procmailrc file
similar to yours but
without spamassassin and am now using the procmail lockfile I defined in
my home directory, so this has solved my problem.
However I am intrigued by how procmail works, in order to get mail
transferred into the default folder I defined I need the last two lines
you quote ie:-
:0:$LOCKFILE
$DEFAULT
But none of the examples in man procmail seem to include this and the
comments imply that everything left at the end goes to $DEFAULT by er!
default.
Am I missing something?
--
Regards
Pete
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Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability
g wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: Yes that is it, normally the Thunggg happens on first powerup from dead, I don't normally hear it again until close down. Just recently the monitor has been randomly powering off with this noise, a moments black screen, and then back to whereever I was on desktop, nothing lost ,and it does it automatically I'm not having to reset anything, to clarify, thunggg is a sound of a time period last several seconds. thunk is a sound of a short time period, a second or less. Oh, it's quite short, how can I put it, the whole thing including the sound and black screen back to desktop is no more than a couple of seconds short thunk, when power is first applied, 1, 2 seconds and then thunggg. in powering off, there would be no thunggg as there is no need to degauss when powering off, but there could be a thunk as power relay drops out. Your've got it. that is how it is, as mentioned, how a monitor is driven in resolution can be a factor in what amount of current is drawn by monitor. more res = more current = heat. ok but would i be able to feel this excessive heat around the monitor casing, because if so, it's not hot at all, cann't say I feel any sensation of normal ambient temperature. as mentioned, try dropping resolution. as for linux drivers versus oos drivers, i dislike saying this, but oos does have tighter and better drivers. Oh, the M9.0 is running on nvidia's own, but M9.1beta3 is on open source drivers. I'm not really suspecting drivers. Well, I've just spend an hour unplugging and replugging everything, I want to test this a bit and see whether that stops the problem, if not I'll try dropping monitor settings. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] latest SANE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 03:34 pm, Kristjan wrote: grep: /usr/lib/libexif.la: No such file or directory sed: can't read /usr/lib/libexif.la: No such file or directory libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libexif.la' is not a valid libtool archive Looks like you are missing the libexif library. If it is required, it should be listed in the spec file as a build requires, so you should report this bug to bugzilla. Try urpmi libexif and try again. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+U++5Gu5uuMFlL5MRAkq0AKCAdr1MI/ufkfF6iKBI/GnjqvKX2QCeMImk lQmrCt83bjxAGb1ighjjyp8= =84XM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unauthorized link.
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 11:32 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 05:52, Seedkum Aladeem wrote: Hi, I was surfing some web sites last night using Konqueror and I warning window popped up saying that something or other has an unauthorized link to my machine. What does that mean? is it a virus or a hack attack or what? Thanx, Seedkum That pop-up was an advertisement - aimed at Windows users - or really, anyone that is dumb enough to click the link in the window. It's a highly illegal means by which to advertise - but it IS an advertisement. With the amount of surfing that I do, I get those incessant buggers often - and they suck. You're running linux - no one's just going to link to your machine...not unless you set it up, configure it and administer it. The pop-up window did not show me any link to click. The pop-up had only an OK button. Is that how it would show up on Windows? or does Windows pop-up show a URL it asks you to click on? The pop-up appeared to me like a warning pop-up from the operating system (LM9.0). Thanx, Seedkum Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and Kmail
SNIP Derek Thanks for the reply (and Tod and Greg). I created a ~/.procmailrc file similar to yours but without spamassassin and am now using the procmail lockfile I defined in my home directory, so this has solved my problem. However I am intrigued by how procmail works, in order to get mail transferred into the default folder I defined I need the last two lines you quote ie:- :0:$LOCKFILE $DEFAULT But none of the examples in man procmail seem to include this and the comments imply that everything left at the end goes to $DEFAULT by er! default. Am I missing something? Procmail recipes are wondrously arcane. It took me days to get my head around even the simplest. Once I had something that worked I did not attempt to cut out redundant bits. To analyse these two lines :- The leading ':0' delineates the start of a recipe The next ':' tells procmail to set the lockfile. Next comes the name of the lockfile. If no name is given the default lockfile is assumed, so I did not really have to explicitly name it. The next line would normally contain the filter this recipe is testing against, but since this is the default action no test is required, and we go straight on to the action which is to put the mail in the $DEFAULT mailbox. Another example recipe is :- :0 : $LOCKFILE * ^To:.*@linux-mandrake.com $NEWBIE This says Set the lockfile, scan the mail looking for a newline followed by 'To:' with any number of characters following then '@linux-mandrake.com'. If this filter is met put the mail in NEWBIE folder. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and Kmail
On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 22:00, Derek Jennings wrote: SNIP Derek Thanks for the reply (and Tod and Greg). I created a ~/.procmailrc file similar to yours but without spamassassin and am now using the procmail lockfile I defined in my home directory, so this has solved my problem. However I am intrigued by how procmail works, in order to get mail transferred into the default folder I defined I need the last two lines you quote ie:- :0:$LOCKFILE $DEFAULT But none of the examples in man procmail seem to include this and the comments imply that everything left at the end goes to $DEFAULT by er! default. Am I missing something? Procmail recipes are wondrously arcane. It took me days to get my head around even the simplest. Once I had something that worked I did not attempt to cut out redundant bits. To analyse these two lines :- The leading ':0' delineates the start of a recipe The next ':' tells procmail to set the lockfile. Next comes the name of the lockfile. If no name is given the default lockfile is assumed, so I did not really have to explicitly name it. The next line would normally contain the filter this recipe is testing against, but since this is the default action no test is required, and we go straight on to the action which is to put the mail in the $DEFAULT mailbox. Another example recipe is :- :0 : $LOCKFILE * ^To:.*@linux-mandrake.com $NEWBIE This says Set the lockfile, scan the mail looking for a newline followed by 'To:' with any number of characters following then '@linux-mandrake.com'. If this filter is met put the mail in NEWBIE folder. derek Thanks I'll keep trying -- Regards Pete ArdnamurchanScotland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Modem is not recognized
Ref: Mandrake-Linux 9 PowerPack edition: Kernel 2.4.19-16mdk Registration Number: PWP90MM-322CBA-ENG-HPCK-E9K9 Computer: P1-233, 114Mb memory. Stand-alone computer. Hard Drives: hda1 Windows NT4 hdb1 Linux Dear Sir or Madam: Could you help me with this problem: The above computer has a US Robotics/3Com 56k Voice FaxModem model 5610 with Plug and Play feature. It is listed in your hardware database. It works properly under Windows on Com3; it does not work in Windows on Com2. In Linux, it responds only on ttyS1 / Com2. When I run a Modem Query, it displays: Looking for Modem, Modem Ready, ATI, ATI 1 up to ATI 7. Then it displays the Query Results: all the fields are blank. If I dial to connect, I get Modem Ready, Initializing Modem, Expected: OK. Then nothing happens. So far it seems it is not recognized. I have used all the combinations possible: PAP / CHAP authentication; only flow controls XON/XOFF or None work. CR, LF and CR/LF do not make any difference. K/Configuration/KDE/Information/IO-Ports gives address range 6400-6407 for the modem. The modem doesn't show in the detected hardware list in Harddrake2. Is there a way to make the connection through ttsS2 / Com3? That might work. Or what can I do? Thank you for your help. Richard Thibaudeau Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fun discussion question for the list
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:49:12 -0500 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: without allowing proper blood flow shouldn't that be Beer flow Charles guess that depends upon what the majority of your bodily fluids are comprised of. :P -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability (Thungggg sound from the monitor)
At 07:07 AM 2/19/2003 -0500, you wrote: Quite possibly the sound that you are hearing is your monitor switching modes. I have heard this sound many times, especially on multi-sync monitors. Maybe I am wrong, but I hear this sound every day when I boot into MDK 9.0 and my monitor is 5 years old and has not blown up yet... Anyone else hear this noise? Hope it helps. Mudder I have a 19 NEC Multisync FE 950+. Yes i hear it too. Don't know what multisync means ... inferior? Its an aperture grille tube too. I liek it. - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability
John Richard Smith wrote: Oh, it's quite short, how can I put it, the whole thing including the sound and black screen back to desktop is no more than a couple of seconds short thunk, when power is first applied, 1, 2 seconds and then thunggg. in powering off, there would be no thunggg as there is no need to degauss when powering off, but there could be a thunk as power relay drops out. Your've got it. that is how it is, ok, just to be sure, as i believe a 100% clarity is needed to be sure to point you in correct direction. thunk is relay, thunk is a less than a second. thunggg is degaussing coil, thunggg is more than a second. also put as, thunk takes longer to think or say than actual sound, while thunggg is as long as thinking it or saying it. 1 - from a cold start, power is applied, first sound is a thunk, short pause, then thunggg. power down is a thunk and no thunggg. 2 - when monitor blinks on it's own, it is a thunk, followed by another thunk, then thunggg. [i hear laughter] ok but would i be able to feel this excessive heat around the monitor casing, because if so, it's not hot at all, cann't say I feel any sensation of normal ambient temperature. not necessarily. as sensitive as we humans are, we are not a thermometer. if you want to measure temperature, use a thermometer, start with a cold monitor and measure ambient room temp with a second. Oh, the M9.0 is running on nvidia's own, but M9.1beta3 is on open source drivers. I'm not really suspecting drivers. drivers could cause problem if they are not meeting oem specs. as i said before, linux drivers do need improving. a driver being off in any direction could cause a heat build up and reason for dropping to a low res setting. as for m 9.0 and m 9.1b3, is blanking out happening in both? also, what happens when you disable screen time out? now, another reason for asking you to drop to lower resolution, what happens when you are out of x and at command line? does monitor still blank out on you? if not, then it is a problem with drivers and resolution. hi res causes higher current and more heat. tho, monitor power supply could be shutting down due to excess current and not an internal heat build up. monitor uses a switching power supply and a switching power supply will shut down when currents exceed rating. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Modem is not recognized
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 04:18, Richard B. Thibaudeau wrote: Ref: Mandrake-Linux 9 PowerPack edition: Kernel 2.4.19-16mdk Registration Number: PWP90MM-322CBA-ENG-HPCK-E9K9 Computer: P1-233, 114Mb memory. Stand-alone computer. Hard Drives: hda1 Windows NT4 hdb1 Linux Dear Sir or Madam: Could you help me with this problem: The above computer has a US Robotics/3Com 56k Voice FaxModem model 5610 with Plug and Play feature. It is listed in your hardware database. It works properly under Windows on Com3; it does not work in Windows on Com2. In Linux, it responds only on ttyS1 / Com2. When I run a Modem Query, it displays: Looking for Modem, Modem Ready, ATI, ATI 1up to ATI 7. Then it displays the Query Results: all the fields are blank. If I dial to connect, I get Modem Ready, Initializing Modem, Expected: OK. Then nothing happens. So far it seems it is not recognized. I have used all the combinations possible: PAP / CHAP authentication; only flow controls XON/XOFF or None work. CR, LF and CR/LF do not make any difference. K/Configuration/KDE/Information/IO-Ports gives address range 6400-6407 for the modem. The modem doesn't show in the detected hardware list in Harddrake2. Is there a way to make the connection through ttsS2 / Com3? That might work. Or what can I do? Thank you for your help. Richard Thibaudeau Which program are you using to connect? KPPP? Or are you using the Mandrake Control Center to initiate the dial up? Some things to consider for making sure the USR works properly is to add some init strings - the following generally work quite well: AT F C1 D2 E1 Q0 V1 If KPPP keep getting nasty on your (it's most likely a time-out that's mucked up) you can use WVDIAL to get it working. -- Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:15:00 +1100 10:15am up 22:58, 3 users, load average: 0.67, 0.36, 0.22 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- HOW TO PROVE IT, PART 7 proof by forward reference: Reference is usually to a forthcoming paper of the author, which is often not as forthcoming as at first. proof by semantic shift: Some of the standard but inconvenient definitions are changed for the statement of the result. proof by appeal to intuition: Cloud-shaped drawings frequently help here. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and Kmail
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 09:00, Derek Jennings wrote:
Procmail recipes are wondrously arcane. It took me days to get my head around
even the simplest. Once I had something that worked I did not attempt to cut
out redundant bits.
To analyse these two lines :-
The leading ':0' delineates the start of a recipe
The next ':' tells procmail to set the lockfile.
Next comes the name of the lockfile. If no name is given the default lockfile
is assumed, so I did not really have to explicitly name it.
The next line would normally contain the filter this recipe is testing
against, but since this is the default action no test is required, and we go
straight on to the action which is to put the mail in the $DEFAULT mailbox.
Another example recipe is :-
:0 : $LOCKFILE
* ^To:.*@linux-mandrake.com
$NEWBIE
This says Set the lockfile, scan the mail looking for a newline followed by
'To:' with any number of characters following then '@linux-mandrake.com'.
If this filter is met put the mail in NEWBIE folder.
derek
I'll attach my latest /etc/procmailrc for further reference - it also
contains some recipes for catching most Windows-borne nasties...
--
Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:20:00 +1100
10:20am up 23:03, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.38, 0.30
--
|____ | kuhn media australia|
| / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com |
| .\__/ || | | |=|
| _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn|
| | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
| |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 |
| ;/ / | | | |
| smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389|
| ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU |
--
linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting
--
Nothing cures insomnia like the realization that it's time to get up.
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin
:0
* ^From.*@redturtle.it
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*@lyris.linkclicks.com
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*@headboy.co.uk
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*@getoffersdirect.com
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*@another.com
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*@sympatico.com
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*@phantomemail.com
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*@coolconcerns.co.uk
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*@hananet.net
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*@jennasmail.com
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*@ecplaza.net
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*@tyrell.net
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^From.*@*.co.kr
* ^Subject:.*
{
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^(X-Spanska|From.*hahaha)
{
LOG=VIRUS
:0
/dev/null
}
:0 B
* 10
* mDmcOaA5pDmoOaw5sDnAOeA56DnsOfA59Dn4Ofw5ADoEOgg6HDo8OkQ6SD
{
LOG=SirCam
:0
/dev/null
}
# Attachment with an unzipped Win32 executable - KLEZ
:0
* Content-Type:.*multipart/alternative
* BD ?? AAAMFAAA9AgAAPYlAAAKAgAATVpQAAIEAA8A//8AALgAQAAaAKgBAAC6EAAO
{
LOG=KLEZ
:0
/dev/null
}
:0 HB
* 54000
* ^Content-Type: audio/x-(wav|midi);
{
LOG=Klez
:0
/dev/null
}
# Unless you read Chinese, Japanese, or Korean:
:0
* [Bb][Ii][Gg]5
{
LOG = Big5
:0
/dev/null
}
# It is reliably reported that this single test may kill half your
# spam in one shot:
:0
* !^Message-Id
{
LOG = No ID
:0
/dev/null
}
# And this is one is pretty effective, too:
:0
* !^To:
{
LOG = No To:
:0
/dev/null
}
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Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability (Thungggg sound from the monitor)
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 10:11, FemmeFatale wrote: I have a 19 NEC Multisync FE 950+. Yes i hear it too. Don't know what multisync means ... inferior? Its an aperture grille tube too. I liek it. - FemmeFatale Is it pink as well? (BTW, the wife and I have taken to doing collage/declopage on computer cases, monitors, keyboards and mice - so we're going to do a mauve set for the daughter-unit) -- Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:25:01 +1100 10:25am up 23:08, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.29, 0.28 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- `Right,' said Ford, `I'm going to have a look.' He glanced round at the others. `Is no one going to say, No you can't possibly, let me go instead?' They all shook their heads. `Oh well.' - Ford attempting to be heroic whilst being seiged by Shooty and Bangbang. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability (Thungggg sound from the monitor)
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 06:11 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: At 07:07 AM 2/19/2003 -0500, you wrote: Quite possibly the sound that you are hearing is your monitor switching modes. I have heard this sound many times, especially on multi-sync monitors. Maybe I am wrong, but I hear this sound every day when I boot into MDK 9.0 and my monitor is 5 years old and has not blown up yet... Anyone else hear this noise? Hope it helps. Mudder I have a 19 NEC Multisync FE 950+. Yes i hear it too. Don't know what multisync means ... inferior? Its an aperture grille tube too. I liek it. - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert you are such a show off 19 NEC Multisync. gee I did not think women got into mine is bigger thatn yours kinda contests. to answer the question (I have a 17 NEC Multisync FE700) do you most often hear that when changeing modes? like when you start X or starting tuxracer or Quake? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability
At 05:26 PM 2/19/2003 +, you wrote: On the otherhand, while typing this message I just had another relapse, only this time no thunggg, the screen picture just collapsed inwards to a point and disappeared to a black picture that lasted only a second, and then the picture returned as quickly. Maybe the monitor is going home. I think my next option is to unplug and tidy things up a bit, I just may have a bad connector somewhere in the monitor circuits. I really don't suspect UK power supply, that at least is one thing you can rely on, your gonna get 240v 50 Hz dead stable all the year round, and I live in a modern city of 250,000 people, the grid is sound. Thanks for your thoughts, it's good to kick the problem around and compare notes. John -- One thing I noticed with my multisync is once in a while the screen distorts slightly then comes back into proper shape... why i don't know. its less than a year old. I thought it was a P/S Issue, so i got a new one. No dice. If anyone has ideas, lemme know. - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PCMCIA wireless card
Well I've booted with the card in and I heard no double beep. I did see a message that said: starting pcmcia cardmgr[864]: socket0: CardBus hotplug device So hopefully that would mean that the PCMCIA device is ready to run but the same message saying the computer can't load the sound mixer is present on starting GNOME. This is what is in the interrupts file: CPU0 0: 996204 XT-PIC timer 1: 7840XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 3: 2910618 XT-PIC ltserial 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 10: 4 XT-PIC usb-uhci, Texas Instruments PCI1211, NM256AV 12: 45328 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 64132 XT-PIC ide0 15: 41 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 LOC: 0 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 /proc/interrupts lines 1-14/14 (END) I think it is strange that the sound card NM256AV is there but the PCMCIA card is not. Any ideas? Thanks -Noah On Wednesday 19 February 2003 08:59 am, Derek Jennings wrote: In that case open MandrakeControlCentreSystemServices and check that pcmcia is set to start at boot, and if it already is then you may have an IRQ conflict between your pcmcia slot and your sound card. You can check that in KDE Control CentreInformationInterrupts (I daresay there is a Gnome equivalent) You can also open a shell and type: 61 Feb 19 Greg Meyer (3431) Re: [newbie] latest SANE cat /proc/interrupts to get the same result. Ah...Linux...so many ways to do things :-) -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Video editing
Hi, I have absolutely no experience in video editing Please, I really need to know how can I add a logo on a videoclip (mpg) using cinelerra or The GIMP...! Thank you Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No CDROM read again
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 06:39 am, Peter Watson wrote: On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 03:38, Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 18 February 2003 06:58 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Here is my fstab : /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 snip most of it answering my own post. I should have known better, It was a permissions problem. Somehow the cdrom and cdrecorder files in /dev were set to root permissions only. I am not sure what else to set them to so I set them to my user name and can now access cdrom and cdwriter. I wish I would remember to check the basic stuff before getting frustrated and blowing it all away. Civileme once told me you should never have to reinstall Ha, that applies only if you have some inkling of what you are doing. I keep learning. Some things I keep learning over again. looks like your'e using K3b. I had the same permission problems and multiple entries in fstab after I installed it. Your right. I had never had a problem with k3b doing this as others reported but will not run it on the system as I am now testing 9.1rc1 and k3b isn't here any more. I will use cdbakeoven for all my burning needs. Thanks for reminding me of the probable cause of my problem. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unauthorized link.
was it a link? i get those every now and then i think its some attempt to get you to run some applet or other to access your 'c' drive :) i could be talking from below of course bascule On Wednesday 19 Feb 2003 6:52 pm, Seedkum Aladeem wrote: Hi, I was surfing some web sites last night using Konqueror and I warning window popped up saying that something or other has an unauthorized link to my machine. What does that mean? is it a virus or a hack attack or what? Thanx, Seedkum -- 'Oh, them as makes the endings don't get them,' said Granny. (Maskerade) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unauthorized link.
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 12:14, bascule wrote: was it a link? i get those every now and then i think its some attempt to get you to run some applet or other to access your 'c' drive :) i could be talking from below of course bascule Trust me. Next time you see one, do a view source on it and you'll see what I mean - it's a silly attempt to advertise PC/Windows software that hooks the unknowing person into going to the site and believing that their computer can or is infected or intruded. -- Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:25:00 +1100 12:25pm up 1 day, 1:08, 3 users, load average: 0.21, 0.59, 0.35 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- I think I'll KILL myself by leaping out of this 14th STORY WINDOW while reading ERICA JONG'S poetry!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unauthorized link.
i see those all the time, sometimes however i get something that pops up and has a url typ thing of c:/// or something similar in it, always when i click on an otherwise innocent looking link bascule On Thursday 20 Feb 2003 1:31 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 12:14, bascule wrote: was it a link? i get those every now and then i think its some attempt to get you to run some applet or other to access your 'c' drive :) i could be talking from below of course bascule Trust me. Next time you see one, do a view source on it and you'll see what I mean - it's a silly attempt to advertise PC/Windows software that hooks the unknowing person into going to the site and believing that their computer can or is infected or intruded. -- For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Stuck with PCTel Modem Driver
My Toshiba laptop comes with a Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Modem (rev 05) that I am trying to setup for the first time. After googling around I found that the PCTel driver (version 0.9.5 and up) supports this modem. I downloaded version 0.9.6 and tried to build the module using ./configure --with-hal=i8xx as directed by the INSTALL file. However, ./configure complains with: configure: error: modversions.h is missing - you should configure your kernel first! They recommend to install kernel sources to solve this problem but I already have installed them. The other ugly solution (as they called it) is to touch /usr/src/linux/include/modversions.h. This one didn't work. Has somebody had this sort of problem? Any information on how to solve this problem will be truly welcome. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stuck with PCTel Modem Driver
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 12:44, Adolfo Bello wrote: My Toshiba laptop comes with a Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Modem (rev 05) that I am trying to setup for the first time. After googling around I found that the PCTel driver (version 0.9.5 and up) supports this modem. I downloaded version 0.9.6 and tried to build the module using ./configure --with-hal=i8xx as directed by the INSTALL file. However, ./configure complains with: configure: error: modversions.h is missing - you should configure your kernel first! They recommend to install kernel sources to solve this problem but I already have installed them. The other ugly solution (as they called it) is to touch /usr/src/linux/include/modversions.h. This one didn't work. Has somebody had this sort of problem? Any information on how to solve this problem will be truly welcome. Have you made absolutely sure that you've got ALL the sources for the kernel? I found that the MDK idea was to give JUST THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM - and I had to install ncurses, all the gcc sources as well as the kernel sources and kernel headers... ..but I can tell you that the driver does work... -- Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:45:01 +1100 12:45pm up 1 day, 1:28, 5 users, load average: 0.28, 0.19, 0.18 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- If entropy is increasing, where is it coming from? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Zombie Process
Have a question about a zombie process. I know what it is, I just can't seem to get rid of this on. I logged out then back in again, top shows it as still there. I ran ps aux and below is what I think is the zombie process, but no method of kill seems to work. Any ideas? chris12519 0.0 0.0 00 ?ZFeb17 0:00 [sh defunct] -- Regards Chris Registered Linux user #283774 @ http://counter.li.org 7:53pm up 4 days, 2:46, 4 users, load average: 0.36, 0.24, 0.14 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stuck with PCTel Modem Driver
On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 21:48, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Have you made absolutely sure that you've got ALL the sources for the kernel? I found that the MDK idea was to give JUST THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM - and I had to install ncurses, all the gcc sources as well as the kernel sources and kernel headers... ..but I can tell you that the driver does work... Well, this is a good new. Stephen, I downloaded 2.4.19-24 from www.kernel.org and followed directions unpacking the tarball in /usr/src/ Maybe I missed something, like installing the kernel headers. I assumed that everything was in the tarball. Do I need to install something else before recompiling? Thanks again -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stuck with PCTel Modem Driver
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 13:03, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 21:48, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Have you made absolutely sure that you've got ALL the sources for the kernel? I found that the MDK idea was to give JUST THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM - and I had to install ncurses, all the gcc sources as well as the kernel sources and kernel headers... ..but I can tell you that the driver does work... Well, this is a good new. Stephen, I downloaded 2.4.19-24 from www.kernel.org and followed directions unpacking the tarball in /usr/src/ Maybe I missed something, like installing the kernel headers. I assumed that everything was in the tarball. Do I need to install something else before recompiling? Thanks again First, remember that this isn't a kernel-source that was setup for Mandrake - so you're going to have to make some modifications... On the other hand, if you just take the kernel sources and headers and all that stuff off of the MDK disks, you'll have a bit more luck and be able to get this done faster - as the kernel sources won't need any modifications (they're the same as the kernel installed on your existing system)...so you won't have to muck around with the .h files for modification or configuration... -- Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:05:01 +1100 1:05pm up 1 day, 1:48, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.10 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- The so-called desktop metaphor of today's workstations is instead an airplane-seat metaphor. Anyone who has shuffled a lap full of papers while seated between two portly passengers will recognize the difference -- one can see only a very few things at once. -- Fred Brooks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stuck with PCTel Modem Driver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 09:03 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 21:48, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Have you made absolutely sure that you've got ALL the sources for the kernel? I found that the MDK idea was to give JUST THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM - and I had to install ncurses, all the gcc sources as well as the kernel sources and kernel headers... ..but I can tell you that the driver does work... Well, this is a good new. Stephen, I downloaded 2.4.19-24 from www.kernel.org and followed directions unpacking the tarball in /usr/src/ If you are running the Mandrake 2.4.19-24 kernel, you have to install the sources with the kernel-sources rpm provided by Mandrake. You problem sounds like you are trying to build the module against sources that don't match your running kernel. The reason this makes a difference is all the custimization and patching mandrake does to it's kernel. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+VDkSGu5uuMFlL5MRAoWCAJ4lj7yPjQhJwzsduPcAxN4VaKKEZwCgihzS fIP+zjejFwYQWTkz/j/1rXM= =faOy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stuck with PCTel Modem Driver
On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 22:09, Stephen Kuhn wrote: First, remember that this isn't a kernel-source that was setup for Mandrake - so you're going to have to make some modifications... On the other hand, if you just take the kernel sources and headers and all that stuff off of the MDK disks, you'll have a bit more luck and be able to get this done faster - as the kernel sources won't need any modifications (they're the same as the kernel installed on your existing system)...so you won't have to muck around with the .h files for modification or configuration... I was way off the road. Stephen, do you by any chance have a link to download 2.4.19-24 from Mandrake? Thanks a lot. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unauthorized link.
Seedkum Aladeem wrote: On Wednesday 19 February 2003 11:32 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 05:52, Seedkum Aladeem wrote: Hi, I was surfing some web sites last night using Konqueror and I warning window popped up saying that something or other has an unauthorized link to my machine. What does that mean? is it a virus or a hack attack or what? Thanx, Seedkum That pop-up was an advertisement - aimed at Windows users - or really, anyone that is dumb enough to click the link in the window. It's a highly illegal means by which to advertise - but it IS an advertisement. With the amount of surfing that I do, I get those incessant buggers often - and they suck. You're running linux - no one's just going to link to your machine...not unless you set it up, configure it and administer it. The pop-up window did not show me any link to click. The pop-up had only an OK button. Is that how it would show up on Windows? or does Windows pop-up show a URL it asks you to click on? The pop-up appeared to me like a warning pop-up from the operating system (LM9.0). I would assume that the OK button is itself a link, which will probably take you to some site advertising crappy Windows protection software (this is reminiscent of those cheesy Mafia films where two guys with black suits and carnations in their buttonholes walk into a shop and say We think you need protection). Silly popups and banner ads like these, or spam advertising antivirus software, just give me a warm feeling. Sometimes running Linux is like sitting in a well-insulated, double-glazed house watching the storm raging outside. Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stuck with PCTel Modem Driver
On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 22:10, Greg Meyer wrote: The reason this makes a difference is all the custimization and patching mandrake does to it's kernel. I had no idea about this. I am going to play *again* with it this weekend. Thanks a lot Greg. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stuck with PCTel Modem Driver
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 13:27, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 22:09, Stephen Kuhn wrote: First, remember that this isn't a kernel-source that was setup for Mandrake - so you're going to have to make some modifications... On the other hand, if you just take the kernel sources and headers and all that stuff off of the MDK disks, you'll have a bit more luck and be able to get this done faster - as the kernel sources won't need any modifications (they're the same as the kernel installed on your existing system)...so you won't have to muck around with the .h files for modification or configuration... I was way off the road. Stephen, do you by any chance have a link to download 2.4.19-24 from Mandrake? Thanks a lot. I originally ended up getting mine from: ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/Mandrake ...and had to grab the kernel source RPM, the kernel headers, the ncurses stuff and some gcc stuff - been a while and this 40 year old brain can only remember so much (as if I want to REALLY search through more than 20,000 emails from the MDK group)(grin) -- Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:30:00 +1100 1:30pm up 1 day, 2:13, 5 users, load average: 0.01, 0.10, 0.09 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history. -- Hegel I know guys can't learn from yesterday ... Hegel must be taking the long view. -- John Brunner, Stand on Zanzibar Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stuck with PCTel Modem Driver
On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 22:33, Stephen Kuhn wrote: I originally ended up getting mine from: ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/Mandrake ...and had to grab the kernel source RPM, the kernel headers, the ncurses stuff and some gcc stuff - been a while and this 40 year old brain can only remember so much (as if I want to REALLY search through more than 20,000 emails from the MDK group)(grin) At 51 I guess my best choice is waiting for 9.1. It look to me like it will appear sooner than the time it will take me to gather and recompile all 2.4.19-24 stuffs. And definitely sooner than browsing 20,000+ emails :-) Saludos -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails
Does anyone know how to get internet connection with rc1? I have a firewall with static ip and two linux computers behind it. Installed 9.1rc1 and had a internet connection that went away within 5 minutes and have not been able to reestablish it. I know the Mandrake site says a proxy maybe but don't know how to configure that. Is there something in resolve config or somewhere like that I can make a connection work? Any help is appreciated. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Koffice/KWord warning?
Greetings all, I would like to inquire about a warning message that I get whenever I use KWord. Does anyone else get the following when opening KWord in a terminal? Koffice (lib kofficecore):Warning:KoDocumentEntry:: query [X-KDE-NativeMimeType]=='application/x-KWord' got 2 offers! When using KWord, .xsession-errors gets a lot of these warnings. What does this mean? I also note that when I right click on a .kwd file, in the context menu 'open with' there are two entries for KWord shown. Can anyone shed some light on this please? KWord appears to be working OK otherwise however. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ http://www.operamail.com Now with OperaMail Premium for only US$29.99/yr Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] make modules fails in 9.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 12:50 pm, Frans Ketelaars wrote: On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:03:23 -0500 David McGlone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, I am having a problem trying to make modules on my 9.0 box, I keep getting this error make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers' make -C atm modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers/atm' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/home/quintela/rpm/kernel/BUILD/linux-2.4.19/include/linux/module.h', needed by `eni.o'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers/atm' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_atm] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk/drivers' make: *** [_mod_drivers] Error 2 does anyone have any idea how this can be fixed? I think you must install the kernel-source RPM corresponding to your running kernel, in your case that would be kernel-source-2.4.19-16mdk. That's just an idea though. Maybe if you tell us more about what modules you are trying to compile someone has a better idea :) (is this part of compiling a kernel or are you trying to build modules for your kernel from an external package?) I modified the scanner.c file and needed to re-make the modules, and thats when I got that error. - -- D. McGlone Edification Web Solutions http://www.edificationweb.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+VE37AulWMV3BRjARAnIUAKCV7ZA5g+zQIJMuOVrW6RQ2LEw+0gCfehqC ZQ6z8qEg41xZkd2eRB53iTI= =j82N -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IDE Tape drive
On Tuesday 18 February 2003 19:30, Mark Berry wrote: Hi Has anyone any experience of setting up a IDE tape drive? I have a HP Colorado Travan which is recognised as /dev/hdg but there are no entries in /etc/fstab so I can't mount it. I used to have an old Jumbo 250 installed and working with a 3.x or 4.x Slackware once. You need the tape-related files installed if they are nto already, such as mt. To use the drive, you don't mount it, but you read from and write to the device with data transfer applications like dd or tar. You use mt to position the tape or rewind it. Sorry this isn't much help, I haven't used a tape for some years. I assume there are some docs included with the tape package(s) that should help. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IDE Tape drive
Larry Williams wrote: I used to have an old Jumbo 250 installed and working with a 3.x or 4.x 4 cms jumbo 250 tape drives that i have are floppy tape drives and i use ftape for them. i can not say that i have ever seen a 250 that was an ide. but, i do not claim to have seen all of cms line. of 3 hp/cms tr4 drives that i have installed, 1 was an ide devices and 2 were scsi. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Another getpix update
As I learn how to do things, I'm going back and cleaning up the bad and inefficient stuff in the script. This update is an example of that! (And I'm still learning.) New features: * you don't have to rename pictures, you can use the -k switch * you don't have to open the folder in gqview or any other program, use the-q switch * specify the app you want to use to open the folder in a variable (some might want to use Konq, gqview, rox, whatever floats your boat) http://clevername.homeip.net/scripts/getpix Also, I'm testing a lame web gallery feature for getpix. It works well for me so far, but I haven't done extensive testing. This web gallery is just a plain table with 4 columns of thumbnails that link to resized pictures (default is 800 pixels wide). Basically, this is just to ease the pain of hand-coding a gallery; spend your time developing a cool stylesheet! I'm keeping this one separate for now. http://clevername.homeip.net/scripts/getpixtest The reporting of errors and inefficiencies are welcome! Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Test
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 15:50, Todd Slater wrote: On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:02:27 -0600 Robert Wideman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dont know about others but i miss about 1/5 of the mailing list emails. If you go read through the archives you will notice that you do NOT get a lot of them. I gifured this out about amonth ago. Rob I'm just figuring this out, too. According to MARC, there are 2140 messages so far this month. According to my stats script, there are 2021. Part of the difference is my own fault for not updating my dns record with dyndns.org. I wasn't down that long so I don't think that can account for the 120 messages I'm missing. Todd This is a very, very old problem that evidently has never been fixed. Everybody is experiencing this as far as I know. Certainly I have been. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xwindows Stability (Thungggg sound from the monitor)
At 06:46 PM 2/19/2003 -0500, you wrote: you are such a show off 19 NEC Multisync. gee I did not think women got into mine is bigger thatn yours kinda contests. to answer the question (I have a 17 NEC Multisync FE700) do you most often hear that when changeing modes? like when you start X or starting tuxracer or Quake? Heh showoff... ya right. It doesn't make a sound. It just seems to randomly distort (the screen that is) realign again all in a matter or 2 secs or less. Its odd. I can tap the side of the monitor to that creates ripples *think on a pond* emanating from where i tap it towards the centre. Usually 2 or 3 ripples they last only a second or 2. Its odd. - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
