[newbie-it] Firme digitali
Succede anche ad altri che alcuni messaggi (in questa lista) siano firmati ma non si trovino le chiavi su nessun keyserver? Ciao, Germano
Re: [newbie-it] dvd ed amore della polemica
insomma per poter vedere un dvd con linux ho impiegato complessivamente 10 minuti in totale ... e senza spendere una lira.. ops ... un ¤ ... vedi tu :) salve Francesco Anche meno. Installata la mdk 9.1 con i 3 CD scaricabili da internet, piccola modifica per eliminare il supermount (1' e 30'' compreso il riavvio) e Star Trek - L'insurrezione in DVD è meraviglioso. bye
[newbie-it] abiword-2.0.0
la procedura di installazione e' questa( e ci siamo) gunzip -c abiword-[...].tar.gz | tar xvf - cd abiword-[...] mkdir build cd build ../abi/configure a questo punto credo di aver trovato cosa manca .. spero: \ checking for glib-2.0 = 2.0... Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'glib-2.0' found configure: error: Qualcuno sa consigliarmi cosa fare ora? devo creare una directory o cercare questo glib-2.0.pc ? o sono totalmente fuoristrada? :( grazie ciao:) Anna
[newbie-it] Palm e Linux
salve, esistono per linux utility che consentono la conversione e il trasferimento da pc a palm e viceversa dei formati piu' diffusi, tipo file di testo, pagine html, immagini, ?
Re: [newbie-it] dvd ed amore della polemica
Anche meno. Installata la mdk 9.1 con i 3 CD scaricabili da internet, piccola modifica per eliminare il supermount (1' e 30'' compreso il riavvio) e Star Trek - L'insurrezione in DVD è meraviglioso. bye Con che programma?E senza dover installare pacchetti aggiuntivi? NIC -- ...siate sempre capaci di sentire nel+profondo qualsiasi ingiustizia commessa contro chiunque,in qualsiasi parte del mondo.È la qualità+bella di un rivoluzionario che
Re: [newbie-it] x Paolo Brusasco e non solo
Il gio, 2003-10-02 alle 11:23, gigi pinna ha scritto: n Wednesday 01 October 2003 21:14, you wrote: p.s. il maledetto mplayer mi fa sentire il signore degli anelli solo in inglese. se guardo la lingua selezionata del dvd mi dice italiano. se cerco di selezionare un'altra lingua o riseleziono italiano si inchioda il sistema e devo resettare. non posso neanche aprire un'altra console perche' non mi fa il login. ripeto, sopratutto coi dvd, buona fortuna. Che versione? Mi sembra il comportamento del nuovo Mplayer, ancora instabile... con la 0.91 che ho io (ma anche con le precedenti), la cosa peggiore che capiti è il riavvio del film se cambio lingua in corso... E con ogle? Hai provato? Io su mplyer e su xine non sono mai riuscito a guardare i dvd. Provalo e vedi se riesci a risolvere i tuoi problemi! Ogle è stato per me il più semplice da insatallare :) La 8.5 di PLF funziona snza troppi problemi, poi ho scaricato (andato sul sito di Ogle) rpm generici della 9.1 e alla fine sono riuscito senza eccessive difficoltà a farlo funzionare; non ricordo bene, ma forse ho dovuto cercare un pacchetto su rpmfind... Xine, nella versione sui cd di Mancrake 9.1, era instabile riguardo i menù interattivi e la qualità dell'immagine mi sembrava leggermente inferiore rispetto a Ogle; però i problemi si sono risolti con le release successive e ora è il mio player predefinito per i dvd (uso Mplayer per il resto :) Devo dire di essere sorpreso delle difficoltà riscontrate da altri utenti, io ho fatto quasi tutto solo con urpmi... -- Corrado
Re: [newbie-it] abiword-2.0.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 17:52, venerdì 3 ottobre 2003, anna ha scritto a [EMAIL PROTECTED] in merito a [newbie-it] abiword-2.0.0 : checking for glib-2.0 = 2.0... Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable $locate glib-2.0.pc quindi se viene trovato, aggiungi il percorso alla variabile PKG_CONFIG_PATH $export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/percorso_di_glib-2.0.pc per me (slack quindi c'è qualche differenza) PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/lib/pkgconfig grazie ciao:) Anna - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.22 @ ASUS S1N 1330c +- R.U.#219755 -+- S.R.U.#705 -+- R.M.#110932 -+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fcy8F/9fksDJ4y0RAmANAKCnzWznDlKOBHsjldExN2Fsa6ClEwCfeZRS dSGdpl0Xvg54Utd7J+Xx1oc= =12Z7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] Firme digitali
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 11:53, venerdì 3 ottobre 2003, Germano ha scritto a [EMAIL PROTECTED] in merito a [newbie-it] Firme digitali : Succede anche ad altri che alcuni messaggi (in questa lista) siano firmati ma non si trovino le chiavi su nessun keyserver? si evidentemente non hanno inviato le chiavi Ciao, Germano - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.22 @ ASUS S1N 1330c +- R.U.#219755 -+- S.R.U.#705 -+- R.M.#110932 -+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fcvrF/9fksDJ4y0RAuiqAKCVgRjARWRW0SxKM3TBA2zMOfqRtwCgutnE FAFfmMoHJnQ8azO2I2OxTjg= =Z29F -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] problema con bluefish
Alle 21:14, venerdì 3 ottobre 2003, miKe ha scritto: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 01:48, venerdì 3 ottobre 2003, AF ha scritto a [EMAIL PROTECTED] in merito a [newbie-it] problema con bluefish : Ciao a tutti. Ho da tempo un problema con bluefish: basta scorrere i menu con il mouse perché improvvisamente si chiuda e sparisca. Ho da poco installato la versione più recente in circolazione nella speranza che il problema fosse stato risolto, ma le mie speranze sono state deluse... Qualcuno ha riscontrato problemi analoghi o simili con questo o altri programmi? Pensate che si possa fare qualcosa? O è un problema solo mio? Grazie. Ant aprilo da terminale e leggi se esce con qualche errore, potrebbe mancarti qualcosa - -- bye miKe Ecco il risultato dell'esecuzione: $ bluefish (bluefish:2596): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1355 (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (bluefish:2596): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1355 (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed Segmentation fault Si può fare una diagnosi? Ant
Re[2]: [newbie] and the Award for Stating the Obvious goes to...
Hello Stephen, Thursday, October 2, 2003, 3:16:25 PM, you wrote: SK very few, if any, say something like The Internet is a generally SK safe place if you don't use Microsoft products I've had this discussion with more than one newspaper person. But, M$ advertises in the paper, so guess what's NOT going to happen. SK Want a trouble free existence online? Don't run Microsoft SK products. True, even if, for one reason or another, they must still run Win. It makes people aware, first hand, that there really are other alternatives, and makes them more open to the idea of a total M$ alternative. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 2, 2003 11:51 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:48:16 +0700 Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Did anyone else get this? This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send no further newbie communicationsand remove my name from your list. Why did he complain to you in the first place? LOL. I think he missed his target and aimed to you instead as the first name that popped up out of his mind when he's thinking about mandrake list :) either way, he goes the same way as [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /dev/null He/she/it must have selectively sent that to anyone that sent a message to the list late this afternoon. I got 4, Femme got it, Todd got it, probably others. If it was a filter it was an awfully stupid one. But then what can we expect from MS software driven by a halfwit? Filtered here too. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 00:09:36 up 12 days, 13:30, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.47, 0.70 Given my druthers, I'd druther not. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fRNQG11CaRuZZSIRAt5hAKCGXGvkNrmfm+TlbRkrSTlAd3NoPACgnpZ5 A4d8vQCUVWAt9+n5HQVbpZA= =2soX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Instant application shut down.
Thanks for the hints. As far as I can remember it worked fine after installation. I need to check the MDK version.. Thanks again... --- Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 23:29, Smith Joe wrote: Hi All, I have noticed an oddity. When I start any of the OpenOffice applications as soon as the program is loaded it immediately shuts down again. What am I doing wrong? You might want to see if there are core dumps in your home directory...another thing to do is to open up a terminal window, and manually type out: oowriter ...and watch what is happening after you type that...(of course, you must hit ENTER or RETURN)...this will give you a clue as to what is going on... What version of MDK are you using? Have you installed/reconfigured any applications or system settings recently? When was the last time this worked correctly and what has changed since that time? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Everything that can be invented has been invented. -- Charles Duell, Director of U.S. Patent Office, 1899 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = Lysergius says, Stay light, but trust gravity! __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] command for rebooting in win
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:56, Björn Olsson wrote: Spare yourself the horror and take my word for it - it works. Björn Well, I thought it was magical - so I tried rebootin OS2 - System Relic rebootin BeOS - System Buried rebootin SCOUNIX - System Silly rebootin XENIX - System Nonexistent rebootin Windows - System Unusable rebootin MacOS - insufficient hardware rebootin Desqview - too much memory rebootin Linux - A stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- To be a kind of moral Unix, he touched the hem of Nature's shift. -- Shelley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] command for rebooting in win
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 12:38, Eric Huff wrote: I use rebootin windows as root. See man rebootin. Hey! That's bloody brilliant, Mr. Olsson! I've never even known about that command! Dang! Learn something new every day! Holly sh*t! That's a real command. I thought for sure he was joking... I might joke most of the time, but nah, sorry to say, it ain't a joke. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Probable-Possible, my black hen, She lays eggs in the Relative When. She doesn't lay eggs in the Positive Now Because she's unable to postulate How. -- Frederick Winsor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: 18,000 and counting
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:35, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Geez, My mandrake's list (expert and newbie) has just reached 18,000 messages today. I didn't expect we're so active :)) Daily I receive about 100 messages from here. Compared to around 50 from Redhat's. Strange - generally I get more from the RH lists than from the MDK lists...huh... ...then again, I've got a procmail recipe that allows useless/pointless emails to get through whilst the real-meat-and-potatoes emails get sent to /dev/null...along with from a few writers on the list (God knows how some still get through, though) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Perhaps I am flogging a straw herring in mid-stream, but in the light of what is known about the ubiquity of security vulnerabilities, it seems vastly too dangerous for university folks to run with their heads in the sand. -- Peter G. Neumann, RISKS moderator, about the Internet virus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading to 9.2?
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 3:25 am, Teilhard Knight wrote: I recently installed version 9.1 both in a desktop computer and in my laptop. Do you think it is all right to just erase and install 9.2 in both machines? I am specially concerned with my wireless access to Internet. Are there any improvement for that? Derek: I am sorry I have had a lot of work, and I haven't been able to sit and do any more for setting my network. I will have some time tomorrow. Teilhard. Wireless networking is much the same in 9.2 as in 9.1 Orinoco based cards should work perfectly. It is just a matter of putting the correct parameters in. There was an issue I reported in RC2 which stopped orinoco cards starting, but I think it got fixed. I have not tried the atmelwlandriver in 9.2, but the project has not released any new version for some time so I do not expect much improvement. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: 18,000 and counting
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 17:20:49 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: get sent to /dev/null...along with from a few writers on the list Oh goody goody, so you can't see I'm swearing at you *ggg* ;-) Yeah, maybe it's an idea to /dev/null all posts beginning with OT:, test and a few more... Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org/ ...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Article: Microsoft faces class-action on security breaches
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 14:24, HaywireMac wrote: Now the car comparison again. Speaking of which - here's a great analogy: You have a beautiful shiny car - the most awesome stereo system with digital video, all kinds of bright shiny spacey knobs, the best controls for driver comfort, and you feel like a million bucks when you're sitting in it - BUT you have * Tyres 2mm thick that puncture when you're on the road * An engine that rumbles nicely whilst parked, but dies when you get on the road * No seatbelts and no air-bag cushions * You can only seat one * You don't choose the colour or style of the car * You don't really choose the music on the stereo - it's chosen for you and you decide from what's already chosen what you want to listen to. * There is no windscreen * There are no mirrors * No locks of whatever type or kind * The steering wheel is not bolted to the column * You have to purchase petro from only one source, and that source is 1000km away so you have to ship it to the vehicle - your cost. * The maker flatly denies any responsibility for anything that ever happens to the vehicle once it's sold to you. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- learning curve, n.: An astonishing new theory, discovered by management consultants in the 1970's, asserting that the more you do something the quicker you can do it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] imwheel button mapping
HaywireMac wrote: When I start imwheel with X, it messes my scroll-thru-my-desktops function in my WM, mapped to button 5 and 6. In my XF config, the wheel is mapped to those, How exactly did you do that? Is it a function of your window manager? I assume your not using KDE? And does that mean you do not have the normal window up and down window scrolling capability? Perhaps there's an option in XFconfig to do what I want? Just grasping at straws here. Dax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: 18,000 and counting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 03 October 2003 02:20 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: ...then again, I've got a procmail recipe that allows useless/pointless emails to get through whilst the real-meat-and-potatoes emails get sent to /dev/null...along with from a few writers on the list (God knows how some still get through, though) stephen kuhn - owner Stephen, I put messages from expert and newbie into the same folder, is this why many of them have broken thread? Mostly from the expert list, though, they just aren't displayed threaded. - -- Fajar http://linux.arinet.org Linux mdk91.sistek.kom 2.4.21-0.13mdk GNU/Linux 14:43:19 up 7:08, 10 users, load average: 1.01, 1.02, 1.21 Quote of the day: Win NT error 001: Error recording error codes. All further errors not displayed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fSkeMai9kCFqACoRAkvuAKDHpsjZI1WV5nW7/ucwkqIprV/0egCfUUFl VSrrE7sdmwDvEH0nh2CEvLg= =ItE1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: 18,000 and counting
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 17:43, Ralph Slooten wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 17:20:49 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: get sent to /dev/null...along with from a few writers on the list Oh goody goody, so you can't see I'm swearing at you *ggg* ;-) Yeah, maybe it's an idea to /dev/null all posts beginning with OT:, test and a few more... Greetings Ralph Sorry Ralph, every - EVERY message you write gets sent to me personally... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Teachers have class. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: 18,000 and counting
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 17:45, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Stephen, I put messages from expert and newbie into the same folder, is this why many of them have broken thread? Mostly from the expert list, though, they just aren't displayed threaded. I would assume that would be correct, but then again, with the changing ideologies behind quantum physics, I could be wrong about threading. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- In his book, Mr. DePree tells the story of how designer George Nelson urged that the company also take on Charles Eames in the late 1940s. Max's father, J. DePree, co-founder of the company with herman Miller in 1923, asked Mr. Nelson if he really wanted to share the limited opportunities of a then-small company with another designer. George's response was something like this: 'Charles Eames is an unusual talent. He is very different from me. The company needs us both. I want very much to have Charles Eames share in whatever potential there is.' -- Max DePree, chairman and CEO of Herman Miller Inc., Herman Miller's Secrets of Corporate Creativity, The Wall Street Journal, May 3, 1988 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] imwheel button mapping
Heather/Femme wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:08:38 -0500 Kelly McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Thanks for taking a stab at it, apparently nobody is using this mouse? Any other ideas are welcome! Dax I'm using that mouse... I sort of gave up on the other buttons though..they work great in windows..but in linux? Forget it. least that was what I found after about 3 months off on of screwing around. if you find a better answer pls tell me. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Hi, Femme, rest assured if I find a way to get this to work I'll post the answer. Once apon a time I had this working with Mandrake 7.2 but IIRC it was with a logitech mouse with one thumb button, and it only really worked in netscape. Also at the time I believe that you actually needed to use imwheel just to get the scroll wheel working. What's really bugging me is that in my searches I have found several posts by people claiming that the setup I am using worked for them but for every one of those there are atleast ten who say it didn't work. For what it's worth there are a host of apps that do accept keyboard shortcuts mapped to these buttons see the following link for an idea of the possibilities. http://jcatki.no-ip.org/imwheel/imwheelrc Dax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Pink OT was(Re: [newbie] tip for sound using KDE ArtsD)
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:30:54 -0400 Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:31:13 +1200 Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip One of my... ONE OF MY... somehow the rest of this mail got unreadable after that. Pink hair, pink life? -- Michael (not angel/o) hm being stoned has its disadvantages.. being too honest is one. lol ya pink hair, lavender/pink life... I'm openly lesbian. shrugs. Yes one of my lovers. As in Plurality. I'm openly polyamourous too. if you wish to discuss this further, I won't bore the listers here... just email me pvtly. PolyFemme Hell no. To hot for this monogamousey kiwi. Fried my damn brain at the thought of it. Will have shakes for a week. How am i meant to hold my pink handled screwdriver steady now, have to buy a new one i reckon. Still i seem to remember a Femmey boyfriend in there somewhere too about a year back. No wonder you're on farmer-sue-tickles ;-) -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Pink OT was(Re: [newbie] tip for sound using KDE ArtsD)
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 18:30, Michael Adams wrote: Hell no. To hot for this monogamousey kiwi. Fried my damn brain at the thought of it. Will have shakes for a week. How am i meant to hold my pink handled screwdriver steady now, have to buy a new one i reckon. Still i seem to remember a Femmey boyfriend in there somewhere too about a year back. No wonder you're on farmer-sue-tickles ;-) Methinks you need to take a flight to Sydney for a weekend - more than enough going's on there to whet your whistle for years to come, mate... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Engineering: How will this work? Science: Why will this work? Management: When will this work? Liberal Arts: Do you want fries with that? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
I just received five copies of the following message, sent to my email address and not to the list.Anyone else get any? Should I reply to M J Pipkin? Margot Original Message Subject: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 From: M J Pipkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send no further newbie communicationsand remove my name from your list. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] command for rebooting in win
wtf has anybody else got an email like this? -Original Message- From: M J Pipkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:18 AM To: Tony S. Sykes Subject: Re: [newbie] command for rebooting in win This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send no further newbie communicationsand remove my name from your list. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
Margot wrote: I just received five copies of the following message, sent to my email address and not to the list.Anyone else get any? Should I reply to M J Pipkin? Margot Original Message Subject: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 From: M J Pipkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send no further newbie communicationsand remove my name from your list. I replied, somewhat brusquely: This is also unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Maybe I should have also have pointed out that unsolicited spam is redundant, since solicited spam would be a contradiction in terms. Sir Robin -- Hackers appear to wear black more because it goes with everything and hides dirt than because they want to look like goths. - Eric Raymond Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] command for rebooting in win
Sorry for the receipt again, just seen Margot has got one as well. -Original Message- From: Tony S. Sykes Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 10:10 AM To: Newbie (E-mail) Subject: RE: [newbie] command for rebooting in win wtf has anybody else got an email like this? -Original Message- From: M J Pipkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:18 AM To: Tony S. Sykes Subject: Re: [newbie] command for rebooting in win This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send no further newbie communicationsand remove my name from your list. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
Robin Turner wrote: Margot wrote: I just received five copies of the following message, sent to my email address and not to the list.Anyone else get any? Should I reply to M J Pipkin? Margot Original Message Subject: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 From: M J Pipkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send no further newbie communicationsand remove my name from your list. I replied, somewhat brusquely: This is also unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Maybe I should have also have pointed out that unsolicited spam is redundant, since solicited spam would be a contradiction in terms. Sir Robin Hmmm...surely it is possible to buy tinned meat over the internet? That would be solicited spam... Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Article: Microsoft faces class-action on security breaches
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 02:35, Margot wrote: Aron Smith wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 15:41, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Aw...po wittle Billy Gates...sniff sniff... http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/031002/tech_microsoft_security_1.html Yeh I got one of the notices in the mail.. The Lawyers will make millions the most I can get is a voucher $16.00 for each copy of Win$ux $29.00 for each copy of Microsoft Office Productivity Software $5.0 for Microsoft Word $26.00 For Excel Gee think I'll retire What sort of voucher? For anything useful? Or just a contribution towards the cost of your next purchase from M$? Buried in the back there is a sentence saying that you Don't have to purchase Microsh** products __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
That's okay for us with decent connections but what about the poor souls with dial up still? And think about how crazy the archives are going to look. I think we really need someone at the server end dev nulling them before they get to the list. Or at least trying to stop it ourselves. Tony. -Original Message- From: HaywireMac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 10:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)] On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:07:13 +0300 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I replied, somewhat brusquely: I doubt you could out-brusque me... ;-) I called him Pippy. Anyhow, I think it is an automated response, prolly a bounce. Best just to /dev/null it. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Facts are the enemy of truth. -- Don Quixote -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] kernel config
What file(s) contain the settings which the various LM 9.1 kernels were compiled against? I am interested in comparing the default and linux-enterprise kernels so as to build a custom kernel. TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using K3B making an ISO
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:49:24 -0400 Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I use corp. copies. they require no registration or anything of the sort. Keygens are useful too..which I can acquire as well. But can you apply SP's? Ya the keygens are all over the 'net. Like I say, MS only makes a half-assed attempt at preventing piracy, they're just waiting for the day when they can make you run all their software from remote application servers, control how you use it, and charge you rent. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ The questions remain the same. The answers are eternally variable. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: 18,000 and counting
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:43:36 +0200 Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Yeah, maybe it's an idea to /dev/null all posts beginning with OT:, test and a few more... Note to self... ;-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Superstition, idolatry, and hypocrisy have ample wages, but truth goes a-begging. -- Martin Luther Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Article: Microsoft faces class-action on security breaches
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 17:48:47 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: * Tyres 2mm thick that puncture when you're on the road * An engine that rumbles nicely whilst parked, but dies when you get on the road * No seatbelts and no air-bag cushions * You can only seat one * You don't choose the colour or style of the car * You don't really choose the music on the stereo - it's chosen for you and you decide from what's already chosen what you want to listen to.* There is no windscreen * There are no mirrors * No locks of whatever type or kind * The steering wheel is not bolted to the column * You have to purchase petro from only one source, and that source is 1000km away so you have to ship it to the vehicle - your cost. * The maker flatly denies any responsibility for anything that ever happens to the vehicle once it's sold to you. You haven't actually read the *entire* EULA, have you?! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Nothing matters very much, and few things matter at all. -- Arthur Balfour Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fw: help please, hard disk lost!
We can forward you the message if you like...(g) I would like to say no, thanks-:) I got my second (the forwarded) post. By the way, we decided to send the laptop back to Fujitsu Siemens. Best, QingHua Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel config
Maybe /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.13mdk/.config ? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What file(s) contain the settings which the various LM 9.1 kernels were compiled against? I am interested in comparing the default and linux-enterprise kernels so as to build a custom kernel. TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] splitting a pdf
On Thursday 02 October 2003 08:01 pm, Anarky wrote: is there any way of splitting a large pdf (say 800pages) into smaller ones (say 100p) ? I remerber there are some tools can edit PDF files, but they are mostly window$ based. You can check the link http://www.pdfzone.com. You may find out something useful there. HTH. QingHua Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)
yankl wrote: On Thursday 02 October 2003 07:01 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:59:35 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi probeall usb-interface usb-uhci alias net-pf-4 ipx alias autofs autofs4 Is this from before or after doing # modprobe snd-via8233 ? Charles Margote, modprobe will load your driver but not setup your moduls.conf. so after every restart you must run modeprobe again or change the modules.conf file. according to one of my coworker, we had hour long conversation today about your problem, if you have on-board modem it could be recognized in rear cases as Live SB sound. he thinks as I sad before that you compiled live sb in your kernel. Also, Do you have /dev/dsp linked to /dev/sound? [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]# ls -l /dev/sound total 0 Thanks for talking to your coworker - I need all the help I can get! This talk of compiling kernel is worrying - I have never knowingly compiled a kernel. Does this happen automatically on reinstall? Can I have done it by accident, without noticing? what was the SB Live line in your lspsidrake, the archive server hided your post? Check the number on the web at http://pciids.sourceforge.net/iii/. [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]# lspcidrake unknown : VIA Technologies Inc|CPU-to-PCI Bridge unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP] snd-emu10k1 : Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio) emu10k1-gp : Creative Labs|SB Live! (joystick) unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB snd-via8233 : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] unknown : S3 Inc.|VT8751 [ProSavageDDR P4M266] VGA Controller unknown : Virtual|Hub [] unknown : Epson Corp.|USB Printer [Printer|Printer|Bidirectional] [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]# SB Live seems to appear twice in this list, once as audio and once as joystick. I haven't got a joystick on my system. I checked the webpage you suggested, couldn't find any entry for emu10k1 or 10k1 - was I looking for the right thing? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:52:00 +0100 Tony S. Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: That's okay for us with decent connections but what about the poor souls with dial up still? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MailFilter Deletes 'em right off the POP server. Gotta love it. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ I have often regretted my speech, never my silence. -- Publilius Syrus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] command for rebooting in win
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 19:24, Margot wrote: I've just read through the rest of my mail, and seen that everyone has been getting these - I hope that M J Pipkin never needs help from the newbie list, because we're all killing him before his messages get through! Isn't it bad to assume that MJ Pimpin/Pimp Kin/Pumpkin/Pimpleskin is a MALE of the species? stephen kuhn - owner From the messages I received, I can't even determine the species, let alone the sex! Could be female I suppose, but as most of the people who upset me are male, I just naturally assumed.g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Article: Microsoft faces class-action on security breaches
Aron Smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 02:35, Margot wrote: Aron Smith wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 15:41, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Aw...po wittle Billy Gates...sniff sniff... http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/031002/tech_microsoft_security_1.html Yeh I got one of the notices in the mail.. The Lawyers will make millions the most I can get is a voucher $16.00 for each copy of Win$ux $29.00 for each copy of Microsoft Office Productivity Software $5.0 for Microsoft Word $26.00 For Excel Gee think I'll retire What sort of voucher? For anything useful? Or just a contribution towards the cost of your next purchase from M$? Buried in the back there is a sentence saying that you Don't have to purchase Microsh** products Then we should all apply for our vouchers, and use them to pay for a Mandrake product! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 19:41, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:12:32 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: But then what can we expect from MS software driven by a halfwit? George Bush's foreign policy? /ducks How DARE you insult Microsoft like that! stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Death is a spirit leaving a body, sort of like a shell leaving the nut behind. -- Erma Bombeck Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
Tony S. Sykes wrote: That's okay for us with decent connections but what about the poor souls with dial up still? And think about how crazy the archives are going to look. I think we really need someone at the server end dev nulling them before they get to the list. Or at least trying to stop it ourselves. Tony. I doubt if they will affect the list archives - although mine were diverted by mozilla filter into my newbie list folder, I think that was because they had [newbie] as part of the subject line - the messages were addressed to my email address, not to the list. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel config
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 19:59, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Maybe /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.13mdk/.config ? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What file(s) contain the settings which the various LM 9.1 kernels were compiled against? I am interested in comparing the default and linux-enterprise kernels so as to build a custom kernel. TIA Paul That's it alright - but make BACKUPS's of it before getting nutty...you certainly don't want to hose up your installation - as well - it's nice to have backups of your current kernel and initrd images - and anything else (like make a backup of the entire /boot directory and create at least one floppy with the image as well) JUST to be on the careful side... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- insecurity, n.: Finding out that you've mispronounced for years one of your favorite words. Realizing halfway through a joke that you're telling it to the person who told it to you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] command for rebooting in win
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 20:15, Margot wrote: From the messages I received, I can't even determine the species, let alone the sex! Could be female I suppose, but as most of the people who upset me are male, I just naturally assumed.g Hey - that's cool - and understood - but we can't assign general blame - else I'd be a, er, uh, um...well, I wouldn't like women very much... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- The more crap you put up with, the more crap you are going to get. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] imwheel button mapping
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 02:49:14 -0500 Kelly McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: How exactly did you do that? Is it a function of your window manager? I assume your not using KDE? And does that mean you do not have the normal window up and down window scrolling capability? Perhaps there's an option in XFconfig to do what I want? Just grasping at straws here. Well, Stephen's gonna kill me, but ya, it's Pekwm. It's one of a few window managers that lets you scroll through your desktops by mousewheeling on the background. XFCE does this, though poorly IMHO, and I think so does Fluxbox, but Flux Sux. Anyway, no it does not mess with scrollin' otherwise. The only option in XFConfig I'm aware of is the one you already know about: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 but you can also use xmodmap, as I mentioned, to tweak it further when start X, like so: xmodmap -e pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5 I think you saw that already too, no? someone reposted my post with this link: http://www.deadman.org/X/xbuttons.html Who knew the mouse could get so complicated? I won't complain tho, those poor bastards on Mac's with only one button... ;-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ It's hard to drive at the limit, but it's harder to know where the limits are. -- Stirling Moss Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Article: Microsoft faces class-action on security breaches
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 11:19:32 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Then we should all apply for our vouchers, and use them to pay for a Mandrake product! I am not a religious person, really. I do not go to church. I very often curse God (if he/she exists/is listening) unfairly for my plight (like I have anything to complain about...), but I'll tell you one thing for sure: GOD IS MAD AT MICROSOFT. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ I hate dying. -- Dave Johnson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel config
Thanks, Which file contains the config options for the 9.1 linux configuration and which contains the options for the linux-enterpriese configuration? P On Friday 03 October 2003 06:29 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 19:59, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Maybe /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.13mdk/.config ? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What file(s) contain the settings which the various LM 9.1 kernels were compiled against? I am interested in comparing the default and linux-enterprise kernels so as to build a custom kernel. TIA Paul That's it alright - but make BACKUPS's of it before getting nutty...you certainly don't want to hose up your installation - as well - it's nice to have backups of your current kernel and initrd images - and anything else (like make a backup of the entire /boot directory and create at least one floppy with the image as well) JUST to be on the careful side... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- insecurity, n.: Finding out that you've mispronounced for years one of your favorite words. Realizing halfway through a joke that you're telling it to the person who told it to you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Article: Microsoft faces class-action on security breaches
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 03:43, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 11:19:32 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Then we should all apply for our vouchers, and use them to pay for a Mandrake product! I am not a religious person, really. I do not go to church. I very often curse God (if he/she exists/is listening) unfairly for my plight (like I have anything to complain about...), but I'll tell you one thing for sure: GOD IS MAD AT MICROSOFT. probably cause gates has more money Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Article: Microsoft faces class-action on security breaches
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:04:34 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: probably cause gates has more money Good one. Note to self, do not sip coffee whilst reading post from Aron... /HW gets some paper towel for mess. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ I gained nothing at all from Supreme Enlightenment, and for that very reason it is called Supreme Enlightenment. -- Gotama Buddha Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] imwheel button mapping
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 02:49:14 -0500 Kelly McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: How exactly did you do that? Is it a function of your window manager? I assume your not using KDE? And does that mean you do not have the normal window up and down window scrolling capability? Perhaps there's an option in XFconfig to do what I want? Just grasping at straws here. Deadman links to this page: http://koala.ilog.fr/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ and *it* has links to a discussion forum on exactly this topic if I am reading correctly. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Reality is just a crutch for people who can't handle science fiction. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Compacting folders in Mozilla
Paul wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 19:01, John Richard Smith wrote: So the reason is simple the visual delete is just that , it's not physically removed until the compaction is complete. So the obvious next question, in that case suppose you accidentally visually delete a message can you get it back again from the Mbox ? I would not know how to do that with the program (since I do not use it [yet]). When I check out the files in the mail folder: [EMAIL PROTECTED] localhost]$ ll -rw-r--r--1 paul paul0 Sep 30 07:05 Drafts -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 1345 Sep 30 11:51 Drafts.msf -rw---1 paul paul0 Sep 30 07:20 filterlog.html -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 1014580 Sep 30 18:23 Inbox -rw-r--r--1 paul paul30480 Sep 30 18:23 Inbox.msf -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 1927 Sep 30 18:21 junklog.html -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 386 Sep 30 07:32 msgFilterRules.dat -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 4607 Sep 30 18:21 popstate.dat -rw-r--r--1 paul paul0 Sep 30 07:05 Sent -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 1345 Sep 30 11:51 Sent.msf -rw-r--r--1 paul paul0 Sep 30 07:05 Templates -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 1348 Sep 30 11:51 Templates.msf -rw---1 paul paul0 Sep 30 18:23 Trash -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 1387 Sep 30 18:23 Trash.msf you can see .msf files next to the original mail folders. I deleted a message from Inbox, deleted Inbox.msf and restarted Thunderbird. Alas, the message remained deleted, although the msf file was rebuilt. I had hoped that to be some index-file, dragging the deleted mail back. This does not mean it is impossible (when I do 'less Inbox' I can still find the deleted message text) but I don't know how to do it. Yet. Paul It seems the same setup in mozilla . though unlike you I don't seem able to cd into local folders, the directory that contains the above directories and .msf text files. Looks to me as though the .msf files are required for display. -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel config
I don't have the linux-enterprise configuration, sorry. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Which file contains the config options for the 9.1 linux configuration and which contains the options for the linux-enterpriese configuration? P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Article: Microsoft faces class-action on security breaches
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 07:03, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:04:34 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: probably cause gates has more money Good one. Note to self, do not sip coffee whilst reading post from Aron... /HW gets some paper towel for mess. I have to agree,,, for me anyway this list has screwd up about 3 keyboards. and I want one of those MJ (wonder if it stands for Mari-Juana) pimp-kens automated responses, and maybe an sms message too -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tip for sound using KDE ArtsD
On Thursday 02 October 2003 03:10 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 14:51, Heather/Femme wrote: I've had instances of XMMS crashing off on. No big deal. Problem: it crashes and you Skull Xbones the bugger. (Kill it with CTRL-ESC), then try killing all the sound processes. fine. restart xmms, but it doesn't play or there is no sound yet its playing. K so now what? Well one of my lovers told me to go into the KDE Control centre... in there find your sound settings...its the first one under SOUND. now change something. I usually enable Network sound stuff... hit apply. now uncheck it again hit apply. you can now restart xmms the sound server *arts* will restart automatically. voila! sound! odd workaround but shrugs... it works. Michael Angelos Venus of Femme Er...and what if you're NOT running KDE as your desktop/window mangler? Then you are also NOT running ARTS as your sound daemon. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Article: Microsoft faces class-action on security breaches
On 03 Oct 2003 07:17:06 -0400 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: (wonder if it stands for Mari-Juana) Most certainly not, if it did, he/she would not be such an asshole. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ In order to discover who you are, first learn who everybody else is; you're what's left. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] imwheel button mapping
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:55:22 -0500 Kelly McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Does anybody know the correct way to get side thumb buttons on a microsoft intellimouse explorer working as back and forward in mozilla under 9.1? K, got it working in Mozilla, *without* imwheel I might add. Leave your XF config the way it is, but add this to your .xinitrc or whatever startup script: xmodmap -e pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5 and I can scroll through my workspaces, documents, mails, etc. and also go forward and back in Mozilla and Galeon. For some weird reason, the forward and back in Mozilla is *reversed* (?). -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ It's today! said Piglet. My favorite day, said Pooh. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: A simple question
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 02:46:23 -0700 (PDT) TATU CRISTIAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: sorry for writing directly to you'r email you really *should* post to the list, as there may be someone who can benefit from the discussion besides yourself, and also there may be people better qualified to answer you question than I. In fact, that I can almost guarantee. :-) but sinsi you'r one of the most popular persont from this forum well, I wouldn't say popular...unless that means annoying in your language... i decided to dare asking you one little thig: HOW CAN I GET MANDRAKE 9.2 OR AT LEAST A WORKING MANDRAKE 9.1 Do you have a fast internet connection? If so, download the ISO's for 9.1 here: ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/iso/ If not, order the CD's from Mandrake, or if like me you are very poor, perhaps someone will mail you the CD's. 9.2 will not be available til the end of the month, I believe, unless of course you order them from Mandrake, in which case you should have them sometime around...the end of the month. PS please tell me what to do i had enought of M$ and the newest mandrake that I hawe (thet works) it's 8.2 Don't worry, we will get you there. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Goodbye, cool world. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] splitting a pdf
On Thursday 02 October 2003 08:01 pm, Anarky wrote:
is there any way of splitting a large pdf (say 800pages) into
smaller ones (say 100p) ?
Use pdf2ps to convert the PDF file to a PS (PostScript) file. Then you can use
standard postscript tools like GhostScript (gs) on it.
A simpler method would be to use the print feature in xpdf.
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Re: [newbie] imwheel button mapping
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:40:59 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: For some weird reason, the forward and back in Mozilla is *reversed* (?). change it to this and all is well (ie. alt-button left=back, etc.) xmodmap -e pointer = 1 2 3 7 6 4 5 -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Article: Microsoft faces class-action on security breaches
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 04:34, HaywireMac wrote: On 03 Oct 2003 07:17:06 -0400 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: (wonder if it stands for Mari-Juana) Most certainly not, if it did, he/she would not be such an asshole. Recursive statement there ;) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin mjpipkin@yebo.co.za Re: [newbie] Instant application shut down.
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 09:18, M J Pipkin wrote: This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send no further newbie communicationsand remove my name from your list. Bizarre. Don't know how that happened DougB Aaaah! Just seen everybody else's posts on the prat. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] List weirdness
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 23:35, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday October 2 2003 02:01 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: snip I've used it several time, but I send it as SET newbie NOMAIL Anne no need for capitalization. 'set newbie nomail' (w/o quotes) as the subject to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will stop mail. I just used it over the last ten days. 'set newbie mail' starts it again snip Damn! I've tried capitalisation and no capitalisation before; neither worked. Maybe sympa just doesn't like my face/name/colour/font. But I'll keep plugging away, 'cos I'm off abroad again shortly. DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Portable OGG player(s)?
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:52 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: I know there is some interest in this, so this might be interesting: http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2003/iriver_ihp-120.html What I couldn't figure out from the article is if it requires proprietary software to run it... My Palm Tungsten C plays oggs just fine. I love it. Expensive but fun. hehe Regards Trevor Rhodes === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.1 Registered Linux user # 290542 at http://counter.li.org Registered Machine #'s 186951 Mandrake Club Silver Member Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === 22:09:26 up 1 day, 3:17, 3 users, load average: 1.27, 1.21, 1.14 -- Never mud wrestle with a pig.. you get dirty and the pig enjoys it! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] List weirdness
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 22:08, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: 'cos I'm off abroad again shortly. DougB I'm off a broad too...(otherwise known as divorce process) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- I want to marry a girl just like the girl that married dear old dad. -- Freud Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MS is target because of market share? WRONG.
We've all heard it many times when a new Microsoft virus comes out. In fact, I've heard it a couple of times this week already. Someone on a mailing list or discussion forum complains about the latest in a long line of Microsoft email viruses or worms and recommends others consider Mac OS X or Linux as a somewhat safer computing platform. In response, another person named, oh, let's call him Bill, says, basically, How ridiculous! The only reason Microsoft software is the target of so many viruses is because it is so widely used! Why, if Linux or Mac OS X was as popular as Windows, there would be just as many viruses written for those platforms! Of course, it's not just regular folks on mailing lists who share this opinion. Businesspeople have expressed similar attitudes ... including ones who work for anti-virus companies. Jack Clarke, European product manager at McAfee, said, So we will be seeing more Linux viruses as the OS becomes more common and popular. Mr. Clarke is wrong. Source: http://securityfocus.com/columnists/188 -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ It is not doing the thing we like to do, but liking the thing we have to do, that makes life blessed. -- Goethe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:42:45 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is the same, before and after modprobe snd-via8233. I'm not sure what modprobe is actually meant to do The command modprobe foo loads the kernel module foo Can you do an experiment for me, it should fix your sound problem or at least give me a clearer understanding of what is causing it. Be sure that your /etc/modules.config still list Only probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi probeall usb-interface usb-uhci alias net-pf-4 ipx alias autofs autofs4 Launch drakxservises ( # drakxservises ) Find the listing for 'harddrake' and 'uncheck' the box for 'on boot' Reboot your system. Check your /etc/modules.config, it should still list only probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi probeall usb-interface usb-uhci alias net-pf-4 ipx alias autofs autofs4 Run draksound ( # draksound ) Select the via8233 driver and press OK Check your /etc/modules.config, again. It should now include the snd module 'alias sound-slot-0 snd-via8233' If so, test to see if you have system sound, can play a cd, etc. If you do then we have found the solution, if not they we will start back from scratch. Charles -- Spare no expense to save money on this one. -- Samuel Goldwyn - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-10.tmb.4mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 10:38 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:07:13 +0300 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I replied, somewhat brusquely: I doubt you could out-brusque me... ;-) I called him Pippy. Anyhow, I think it is an automated response, prolly a bounce. Best just to /dev/null it. This highlights the danger of setting up an automatic bounce or reject, without sufficient monitoring. He/she had to sign up in the first place. If there was any reasonable monitoring it would quickly be noticed that list traffic was being affected. However, there have been several cases where it has been obvious that people have not realised what they were signing up for. I wonder if it is time we considered asking MandrakeSoft to add to the sign-up invitation the fact that signing up to an active list indicates a willingness to receive considerable amounts of mail? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] List weirdness
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 12:08 pm, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: I've tried capitalisation and no capitalisation before; neither worked. Maybe sympa just doesn't like my face/name/colour/font. But I'll keep plugging away, 'cos I'm off abroad again shortly. You sure you're using the same email address that you're subscribed under? -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is target because of market share? WRONG.
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 06:09, HaywireMac wrote: We've all heard it many times when a new Microsoft virus comes out. In fact, I've heard it a couple of times this week already. Someone on a mailing list or discussion forum complains about the latest in a long line of Microsoft email viruses or worms and recommends others consider Mac OS X or Linux as a somewhat safer computing platform. In response, another person named, oh, let's call him Bill, says, basically, How ridiculous! The only reason Microsoft software is the target of so many viruses is because it is so widely used! Why, if Linux or Mac OS X was as popular as Windows, there would be just as many viruses written for those platforms! Of course, it's not just regular folks on mailing lists who share this opinion. Businesspeople have expressed similar attitudes ... including ones who work for anti-virus companies. Jack Clarke, European product manager at McAfee, said, So we will be seeing more Linux viruses as the OS becomes more common and popular. and McAfee kills viri for which O/S ? (follow the money) Mr. Clarke is wrong. Source: http://securityfocus.com/columnists/188 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fw: help please, hard disk lost!
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 12:15 am, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: On Thursday 02 October 2003 10:29 am, Aron Smith wrote: any idea how this works? just curious *IF* the problem in the HDD is due to a component overheating within the HDD itself, the freeze may delay the onset. It may also solidify the grease, so packing a faulty bearing better. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:31:20 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: This highlights the danger of setting up an automatic bounce or reject, without sufficient monitoring. He/she had to sign up in the first place. Not necessarily, as we have found out with Mr. SMS. It is possible, even likely, that the list mail which is bothering Pippy so much is somehow being forwarded to Pippy from another address which *did* subscribe. The only way to know for sure, I guess, is to have a list admin type check the records. I *do* however second your recommendation that a warning (although I would not describe it as such on the welcome page, LOL!) be added so that subscribers know what they are in for, esp from certain people... ;-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Goodbye, cool world. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 06:34, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:31:20 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: This highlights the danger of setting up an automatic bounce or reject, without sufficient monitoring. He/she had to sign up in the first place. Not necessarily, as we have found out with Mr. SMS. It is possible, even likely, that the list mail which is bothering Pippy so much is somehow being forwarded to Pippy from another address which *did* subscribe. The only way to know for sure, I guess, is to have a list admin type check the records. I *do* however second your recommendation that a warning (although I would not describe it as such on the welcome page, LOL!) be added so that subscribers know what they are in for, esp from certain people... ;-) would it be possible to introduce Mr. Pippy to Mr. SMS ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 09:31, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 03 Oct 2003 10:38 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:07:13 +0300 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I replied, somewhat brusquely: I doubt you could out-brusque me... ;-) I called him Pippy. Anyhow, I think it is an automated response, prolly a bounce. Best just to /dev/null it. This highlights the danger of setting up an automatic bounce or reject, without sufficient monitoring. He/she had to sign up in the first place. If there was any reasonable monitoring it would quickly be noticed that list traffic was being affected. However, there have been several cases where it has been obvious that people have not realised what they were signing up for. I wonder if it is time we considered asking MandrakeSoft to add to the sign-up invitation the fact that signing up to an active list indicates a willingness to receive considerable amounts of mail? Anne it occurs to me that this might even be a filter someone setup to kill the SMS message stuff, and now all the stuff with newbie in the header or body gets /dev/nulled, so he don't even see the replies. next he will be wondering why he does not get even his posts to the listg -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:45:28 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: would it be possible to introduce Mr. Pippy to Mr. SMS ? That could possibly create a loop so powerful so as to create an infinite singularity, imploding the universe and ending existence. Wait til I finish my coffee, okay? -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ When the wind is great, bow before it; when the wind is heavy, yield to it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 06:45, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:45:28 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: would it be possible to introduce Mr. Pippy to Mr. SMS ? That could possibly create a loop so powerful so as to create an infinite singularity, imploding the universe and ending existence. Wait til I finish my coffee, okay? And the Hee-Haw Memorial Paul Dirac award goes to Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 09:54, Aron Smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 06:45, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:45:28 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: would it be possible to introduce Mr. Pippy to Mr. SMS ? That could possibly create a loop so powerful so as to create an infinite singularity, imploding the universe and ending existence. Wait til I finish my coffee, okay? And the Hee-Haw Memorial Paul Dirac award goes to but I have not gotten anything from MJ this morning, anyone else still getting them? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is target because of market share? WRONG.
cut including ones who work for anti-virus companies. Jack Clarke, European product manager at McAfee, said, So we will be seeing more Linux viruses as the OS becomes more common and popular. Mr. Clarke is wrong. Source: http://securityfocus.com/columnists/188 -- i'll offer a slightly different take... i believe we will in time see more efforts at virii for linux/os x/name your fav new os as they become more popular simply because there are those who enjoy seeing what holes they can find or simply enjoy destroying for destruction's sake. but i believe it will simply be more effort - not more successful virii, especially as long as updating is as (usually) painless as it is now. linux will eventually have it's own crises to deal with as new areas are discovered and explored. some may well bring linux downa notch or two, but this community has the benefit of open communication and remarkably fast response; any attack should be a short blip on the radar before it fades and we all move on. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] command for rebooting in win
On Thursday 02 Oct 2003 10:45 pm, ed tharp wrote: I have used shutdown -r now (and shutdown -h now) under both 9.0 and 9.1 withiout problems. Could your problem be because you didn't give it a timescale? It can be set to delay a short time, in order for other connections to be closed off. 'now' is required to make it immediate. Anne or had msec set so only root could reboot That does seem a likely cause. I presume that this could be changed from MCC's boot options? Or is it hard-wired into some security levels? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is target because of market share? WRONG.
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:08:38 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: i'll offer a slightly different take... i believe we will in time see more efforts at virii for linux/os x/name your fav new os as they become more popular simply because there are those who enjoy seeing what holes they can find or simply enjoy destroying for destruction's sake. but i believe it will simply be more effort - not more successful virii, especially as long as updating is as (usually) painless as it is now. linux will eventually have it's own crises to deal with as new areas are discovered and explored. some may well bring linux downa notch or two, but this community has the benefit of open communication and remarkably fast response; any attack should be a short blip on the radar before it fades and we all move on. Actually, that's exactly what the author is saying, not that Linux is impervious, but that the differences between the platforms, as has been pointed out many times on this forum, make them vastly different in terms of the difficulty of finding and executing an exploit. Linux, Unix, and Mac platforms would have to do a complete about-face in terms of their approach to security in order to be as vulnerable as Windows, *regardless of market share*. This is the crusade Stephen has started me on, to debunk this myth wherever and whenever it rears it's ugly head. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ The farther you go, the less you know. -- Lao Tsu, Tao Te Ching Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)
On Friday 03 October 2003 12:09, Margot wrote: yankl wrote: On Thursday 02 October 2003 07:01 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:59:35 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi probeall usb-interface usb-uhci alias net-pf-4 ipx alias autofs autofs4 Is this from before or after doing # modprobe snd-via8233 ? Charles Margote, modprobe will load your driver but not setup your moduls.conf. so after every restart you must run modeprobe again or change the modules.conf file. according to one of my coworker, we had hour long conversation today about your problem, if you have on-board modem it could be recognized in rear cases as Live SB sound. he thinks as I sad before that you compiled live sb in your kernel. Also, Do you have /dev/dsp linked to /dev/sound? [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]# ls -l /dev/sound total 0 Thanks for talking to your coworker - I need all the help I can get! This talk of compiling kernel is worrying - I have never knowingly compiled a kernel. Does this happen automatically on reinstall? Can I have done it by accident, without noticing? No and no :) what was the SB Live line in your lspsidrake, the archive server hided your post? Check the number on the web at http://pciids.sourceforge.net/iii/. [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]# lspcidrake unknown : VIA Technologies Inc|CPU-to-PCI Bridge unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP] snd-emu10k1 : Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio) emu10k1-gp : Creative Labs|SB Live! (joystick) unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB snd-via8233 : VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] unknown : S3 Inc.|VT8751 [ProSavageDDR P4M266] VGA Controller unknown : Virtual|Hub [] unknown : Epson Corp.|USB Printer [Printer|Printer|Bidirectional] [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]# SB Live seems to appear twice in this list, once as audio and once as joystick. I haven't got a joystick on my system. But I think you have a gameport and this is the driver for it, at least that's what lspsidrake says... I checked the webpage you suggested, couldn't find any entry for emu10k1 or 10k1 - was I looking for the right thing? I just experimented a bit and found this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] frans]$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: ALi Corporation M1541 (rev 04) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation M1541 PCI to AGP Controller (rev 04) 00:02.0 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03) 00:03.0 Bridge: ALi Corporation M7101 PMU 00:07.0 ISA bridge: ALi Corporation M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin IV] (rev c3) 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 30) 00:0f.0 IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c1) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVidia / SGS Thomson (Joint Venture) Riva128 (rev 10) Now a wanted to check my '00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B' and did: [EMAIL PROTECTED] frans]$ lspci -nv The part of the output starting with 00:0a was: 00:0a.0 Class 0200: 10b7:9055 (rev 30) Subsystem: 10b7:9055 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10 I/O ports at d800 [size=128] Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128] Expansion ROM at unassigned [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: available only to root From the first line I took the 10b7 number and then found at http://pciids.sourceforge.net/iii/ : 10b7 3Com Corporation Btw I just found vendor ID 1102 in one of your mails and that's indeed Creative Labs. Margot HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)
On Friday 03 October 2003 11:42, Margot wrote: Charles A Edwards wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:59:35 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi probeall usb-interface usb-uhci alias net-pf-4 ipx alias autofs autofs4 Is this from before or after doing # modprobe snd-via8233 ? Charles It is the same, before and after modprobe snd-via8233. I'm not sure what modprobe is actually meant to do - should it make a difference to this file? Have I broken something else now? Margot Modprobe inserts the module (and other modules if they are needed by that module) into the kernel. If 'modprobe snd-via8233' gives no errors the module should be loaded. You can check with '/sbin/lsmod'. Alsamixer should work then. 'modprobe snd-pcm-oss' then loads the OSS emulation modules. Now aumix and kmix should work. When you logout and login again I hope the KDE soundserver will start. It seems to me there is something wrong with hardware detection, maybe a software error, some database error or hardware identifying itself incorrectedly. HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
Ed, but I have not gotten anything from MJ this morning, anyone else still getting them? Not as yet, but I´m still getting the SMS message one though. Regards Trevor Rhodes === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.1 Registered Linux user # 290542 at http://counter.li.org Registered Machine #'s 186951 Mandrake Club Silver Member Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === 00:24:51 up 1 day, 5:32, 3 users, load average: 2.00, 2.02, 2.02 -- Never mud wrestle with a pig.. you get dirty and the pig enjoys it! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: 18,000 and counting
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 8:45 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Friday 03 October 2003 02:20 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: ...then again, I've got a procmail recipe that allows useless/pointless emails to get through whilst the real-meat-and-potatoes emails get sent to /dev/null...along with from a few writers on the list (God knows how some still get through, though) stephen kuhn - owner Stephen, I put messages from expert and newbie into the same folder, is this why many of them have broken thread? Mostly from the expert list, though, they just aren't displayed threaded. Fajar, the expert list has threaded properly for me, as long as I don't delete the initial post, until about a week ago. Then we hit the spell of trouble that is apparently being caused by a faulty DNS somewhere in Paris. MandrakeSoft are trying to get this corrected. Hopefully it will return to normal soon. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is target because of market share? WRONG.
--- Original Message --- From: HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS is target because of market share? WRONG. On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:08:38 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: i'll offer a slightly different take... i believe we will in time see more efforts at virii for linux/os x/name your fav new os as they become more popular simply because there are those who enjoy seeing what holes they can find or simply enjoy destroying for destruction's sake. but i believe it will simply be more effort - not more successful virii, especially as long as updating is as (usually) painless as it is now. linux will eventually have it's own crises to deal with as new areas are discovered and explored. some may well bring linux downa notch or two, but this community has the benefit of open communication and remarkably fast response; any attack should be a short blip on the radar before it fades and we all move on. Actually, that's exactly what the author is saying, not that Linux is impervious, but that the differences between the platforms, as has been pointed out many times on this forum, make them vastly different in terms of the difficulty of finding and executing an exploit. Linux, Unix, and Mac platforms would have to do a complete about-face in terms of their approach to security in order to be as vulnerable as Windows, *regardless of market share*. This is the crusade Stephen has started me on, to debunk this myth wherever and whenever it rears it's ugly head. unfortunately, from work all this qualifies as non-work related so i don't get to explore every offering (in other words, i didn't read the article *g*). but every once in a while one needs to throw their 1/2 cent's worth in anyway *g*. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is target because of market share? WRONG.
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cut including ones who work for anti-virus companies. Jack Clarke, European product manager at McAfee, said, So we will be seeing more Linux viruses as the OS becomes more common and popular. Mr. Clarke is wrong. Source: http://securityfocus.com/columnists/188 -- i'll offer a slightly different take... i believe we will in time see more efforts at virii for linux/os x/name your fav new os as they become more popular simply because there are those who enjoy seeing what holes they can find or simply enjoy destroying for destruction's sake. but i believe it will simply be more effort - not more successful virii, especially as long as updating is as (usually) painless as it is now. linux will eventually have it's own crises to deal with as new areas are discovered and explored. some may well bring linux downa notch or two, but this community has the benefit of open communication and remarkably fast response; any attack should be a short blip on the radar before it fades and we all move on. I don't think soo.. http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 10:25, Trevor Rhodes wrote: Ed, but I have not gotten anything from MJ this morning, anyone else still getting them? Not as yet, but I´m still getting the SMS message one though. Regards Trevor Rhodes I would _never_ suggest that anyone attempt to get the attention of an ISP by using the 'whois' contact names and forwarding each piece of spam (autoreply) to their email addresses, but my checking of the only IP number in the headers that was not a restricted address (81.211.47.3) gives me a couple of addresses to forward all my SMS messages and headers to. % This is the RIPE Whois server. % The objects are in RPSL format. % % Rights restricted by copyright. % See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html inetnum: 81.211.47.0 - 81.211.47.255 netname: SOVINTEL-MTS-NET descr:Moscow Russia descr:ID-6069, OJSC Mobile TeleSystems country: RU admin-c: VK229-RIPE tech-c: VK229-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: SOVINTEL-MNT notify: [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030505 source: RIPE route:81.211.0.0/17 descr:EDN Sovintel origin: AS8773 mnt-by: SOVINTEL-MNT changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20021104 source: RIPE person: Victor Krasnov address: CJSC Mobile TeleSystems address: 4, Marksistskaia address: 109147, Moscow phone:+7 095 7653209 fax-no: +7 095 7660040 nic-hdl: VK229-RIPE changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19971114 source: RIPE so lets see, if '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', and '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' are good addresses? no bounce yet... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is target because of market share? WRONG.
i'll offer a slightly different take... i believe we will in time see more efforts at virii for linux/os x/name your fav new os as they become more popular simply because there are those who enjoy seeing what holes they can find or simply enjoy destroying for destruction's sake. but i believe it will simply be more effort - not more successful virii, especially as long as updating is as (usually) painless as it is now. linux will eventually have it's own crises to deal with as new areas are discovered and explored. some may well bring linux downa notch or two, but this community has the benefit of open communication and remarkably fast response; any attack should be a short blip on the radar before it fades and we all move on. I don't think soo.. http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/ selinux may be good. it may be extraordinarily good. it is not perfect, therefore at some point in time, a way or ways will be found to subvert it to greater or lesser degrees. those attacks will be addressed and the weaknesses rectified, but the damage will happen. i'm not tryig to be rude when i say this: that same cocky self-assurance is what allowed Challenger to happen - and i'm american and it still hurts like hell every time i remember, but assumptions didn't stop it from happening nor will it stop it from happening again. if man is involved, it will fail eventually. linux is no different in thaat regard than anything else manmade. more thoughtfully addressed and nurtured, but still vulnerable. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 6:20 am, rikona wrote: Hello HaywireMac, Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 6:31:39 AM, you wrote: H I did my own very small part yesterday, I couldn't convince a H friend to switch to Linux, but I got them to use Mozilla and H Thunderbird instead of the usual virus-spreaders. I try to get all M$ users to stop using M$ software even if they wish to keep running Win. If they don't mind a modest cost, check out TheBat for email. It is probably the most secure and private client available for Win. It's also a really nice client, too. :-) My choice to replace IE is Opera, which is also available for linux. Help stamp out M$ any way we can. If we can get as many M$ users as possible started using non-M$ software, it gets them thinking in the right direction. Every little bit helps. For years I have been installing first Netscape, the later Mozilla on windows machines, and configuring the email setup for my users, so they are not tempted to use IE. They are soon comfortable with it, and if we ever get so far as getting them to see the light they will have one major application totally familiar :-) Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)
On Friday 03 October 2003 16:20, Frans Ketelaars wrote: snip SB Live seems to appear twice in this list, once as audio and once as joystick. I haven't got a joystick on my system. But I think you have a gameport and this is the driver for it, at least that's what lspsidrake says... I should have said ...and emu10k1-gp is the driver for it... snip -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is target because of market share? WRONG.
On 03 Oct 2003 10:28:41 -0400 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I don't think soo.. http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/ Thanks, I forgot about that one. Unfortunately, existing mainstream operating systems lack the critical security feature required for enforcing separation: mandatory access control. As a consequence, application security mechanisms are vulnerable to tampering and bypass, and malicious or flawed applications can easily cause failures in system security. I wonder what existing mainstream operating systems they are referring to? Why plural? Oh... Windows 95, 98, NT, 2000, XP, etc. ;-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ If the master dies and the disciple grieves, the lives of both have been wasted. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: 18,000 and counting
On Friday 03 October 2003 03:45 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Stephen, I put messages from expert and newbie into the same folder, is this why many of them have broken thread? Mostly from the expert list, though, they just aren't displayed threaded. - -- Fajar http://linux.arinet.org Fajar: I have the same problem with broken threads in KMail 1.5. It's not universal, though -- most threads are preserved. I've never been able to discern any pattern behind the erratic behavior. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is target because of market share? WRONG.
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:47:08 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: selinux may be good. it may be extraordinarily good. it is not perfect, therefore at some point in time, a way or ways will be found to subvert it to greater or lesser degrees. those attacks will be addressed and the weaknesses rectified, but the damage will happen. i'm not tryig to be rude when i say this: that same cocky self-assurance is what allowed Challenger to happen - and i'm american and it still hurts like hell every time i remember, but assumptions didn't stop it from happening nor will it stop it from happening again. if man is involved, it will fail eventually. linux is no different in thaat regard than anything else manmade. more thoughtfully addressed and nurtured, but still vulnerable. That's not really the issue, as we were discussing before. I think you even said it, Linux, Unix, whatever platform will never be 100% secure, but as always, I would put a default install of Mandrake up against a patched and configured Windows box any time and bet on a winner. Everything is relative, there are no absolutes... LOL! However, when you talk about something like SELinux, the law of diminishing returns would seem to dictate that the cost/effort would simply be out of sight for anyone below the level of extreme-l33t-haxor to attempt an exploit. In implementing SELinux, the NSA is putting up a platform that they hope will be mostly impervious to anything except a hacker who is backed by the budget and resources of an entire *State*. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ The truth of a thing is the feel of it, not the think of it. -- Stanley Kubrick Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [Fwd: Patenting of Software Code]
I forward to this list , for members perusal, a copy of an email I have just sent to all my local East Midlands UK MEP's (Member of the European Parliament) concering the patenting of software code. I will let you know what if any reply I get. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Many people on the Internet are expressing concerns about the way that the European Commission is introducing new laws to assist in the Patenting of Software Code. It is being suggested by many very concerned people that allowing the patenting of Software code is like allowing an author to patent their own book, when of course an author owns the copy right to that book, but cannot patent something that is not a novel invention. If someone invents a novel device it can be patented, if someone creates a work of liturature they may own that piece of liturature, but one may not patent it. Software code is said to be a similar situation. So that allowing software code to be patented is akin to allowing the patenting of a language which would be absurd, would you not agree. What is the current situation? Is this concern being addressed ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On 03 Oct 2003 10:41:23 -0400 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I would _never_ suggest that anyone attempt to get the attention of an ISP by using the 'whois' contact names and forwarding each piece of spam(autoreply) to their email addresses, you naughty boy, you! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ It's very inconvenient to be mortal -- you never know when everything may suddenly stop happening. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: A simple question
On Friday 03 October 2003 06:52 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 02:46:23 -0700 (PDT) TATU CRISTIAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: snip i decided to dare asking you one little thig: HOW CAN I GET MANDRAKE 9.2 OR AT LEAST A WORKING MANDRAKE 9.1 Do you have a fast internet connection? If so, download the ISO's for 9.1 here: ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak e/iso/ If not, order the CD's from Mandrake, or if like me you are very poor, perhaps someone will mail you the CD's. 9.2 will not be available til the end of the month, I believe, unless of course you order them from Mandrake, in which case you should have them sometime around...the end of the month. PS please tell me what to do i had enought of M$ and the newest mandrake that I hawe (thet works) it's 8.2 Don't worry, we will get you there. Haywire: There are some other sources, too: My first choice would be to contact an LUG. There are also a number of companies that sell very inexpensive Mandrake disks -- Cheapbytes comes to mind in the US. There are similar companies in other parts of the world. He may even find assistance at a local technical school. As for getting a boxed set from Mandrake: Based on past experience, my guess is that it will be four to six weeks after release before they arrive. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] vfat file systems only accessible by root in MDK9.2
On Friday 03 October 2003 05:33 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Tony: How about trimming the second disclaimer? You're wearing my mouse wheel out, and not doing my carpal tunnel much good, either. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] FireBird and ThunderBird Interaction
Hmm I'm trying to get Thunderbird to open links in Firebird (currently they dpn't do nything when clicked) Anyone know how to do this? Thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
