date:20031122

Having burnt iso to CD I wish to check the result by remaking an iso
file of the CD and running md5sum against on that iso file, but, I 
seem
to have a problem with the mkisofs part of it,

mount /mnt/cdrom
cd /root/tmp
ls
mkisofs -r -J -v -o temp.iso /mnt/cdrom/*
mkisofs 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu)
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install/af
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install/ar
Later

It seems the answer is to ,
mkisofs -v -o temp.iso /mnt/cdrom/*
but whether this is a true iso file in the same vein as the original ?

John

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Re: [newbie] Have i been unsubbed ***** Eric?

On Saturday 22 November 2003 05:34 am, Graham Watkins wrote:
 Michael Adams wrote:
  Anyways, i stopped receiving mail from newbie, should i resubscribe?
 
  Hmm i'll perhaps have to read your reply on the archives.

 I got no mail from the list for 48 hours. Sent a test message and got
 the following reply from SYMPA.

  To distribute the attached message in list newbie :
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  a32975b09 Or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the
   following subject :
  CONFIRM 221bcbeb59ez3dd7de34f7ba32975b09

 Which I have done.

 I am now waiting with bated breath to see if the mail starts flowing again.

Graham:
If the mail hasn't started by now, you'll have to resubscribe by sending an 
email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject subscribe newbie. Sympa 
will send you a return message; respond to that and the flood will resume.

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Re: [newbie] NVIDIA drivers

2003-11-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Saturday 22 November 2003 15:18, Andreas Dittrich wrote:
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 I cant get the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run to install the
 nvidia-driver for my GF4 MX. It says it cant find the header files. I'm
 running the 2.4.22.10 kernel (standard 9.2 ?) and I installed a src-RPM
 for that kernel.

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You need to install the kernel-sources for your specific kernel.
Mandrake doesn't do that by default.
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[newbie] Uber Linux-Noob here. 1st question

2003-11-22 Thread Brian Devero

I have Mandrake 9.1 installed on my machine, and durring installation it didn't have an option for the correct drivers for my printer (Lexmark X75). Anyone know where I can find these (if they are even available now), or if there are other compatible drivers that might work? Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze

2003-11-22 Thread Kaj Haulrich

On Saturday 22 November 2003 13:52, Marc wrote:
 A couple of days ago I helped a friend install 9.1 on a computer
 that he had just built. Soyo dragon mobo 80 geg hdd 512 MB of DDR
 Several applications crashed constantly, Galeon, open office
 seemed to both be constant sources of trouble there seemed to be
 a number of other things that were just not quite right. That was
 when we started to think that something had just gone wrong in
 the installation. Good thing I gad just finished downloading 9.2
 and the third CD was just coming off the burner.
   We decided to give 9.2 a try. Before burning I had run md5sums
 to check  the download it looked OK. We reformatted the whole
 hard drive and the installation went smooth, everything seemed to
 be working fine.
After a couple days things started to go wrong. Newly
 installed packages did not show up on the K menu. Some file
 associations seemed to just get lost. Mozilla and Galeon started
 to crash all the time and other applications started to disappear
 off the k menu. We ran memtest and the memory appears to be OK.
 This is all starting to seem like a hardware problem but I cant
 quite put my finger on what it might be.
   Anyone here have any ideas?

Marc, you have the infamous missing icons problem. This is a bug 
in 9.2. Drove me crazy until Derek gave me the key. I'll take the 
liberty of quoting Derek :

To get your menus back if you lose them:-

Ctl+Alt+F1 to get a text console. log in as root then
update-menus -v
Ctl+Alt+F7 to go back to X. Your menus will now be normal.

Furthermore, if you installed fluxbox, there another bug :

When you run 'update-menus -v' do you see some text about a syntax 
error in a line about fluxbox? If so edit /etc/menu/menudrakeentry  
find the line causing the problem. I think it is this one

?package(menu): needs=fluxbox icon=applications_section.png 
section=Fluxbox/Styles/ title= charset=utf8

and insert some text (any text) between the quotes after 'title='
Then run update-menus again

HTH

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[newbie] Re: [expert] Sympa again ? Eric ?

Dick Gevers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Howdi,
 
 Under the topic `Thinking out loud about fitting current kernels
 on a bootdisk`, I just queued 6 replies to [expert]. Then I shot
 all six of at the same time. It`s been almost an hour, but I saw 4
 appearing within a minute, the others did not yet.
 
 Perhaps it should be reinstalled? I am joking, but isn`t funny.
 
 Take care,
 =Dick Gevers=

I don't know about on expert, but your address was bouncing mails to
newbie a lot yesterday.

The Postfix program

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host mx3.xs4all.nl[194.109.6.48] said: 550
5.1.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown

I even sent you a mail asking about the address, but it didn't
bounce.  Not sure if you got it?
I thought it was you, but wondered if you had switched addresses or
something...

I wonder how many servers screw up like that, since User unknown
is obviously not true...

I wasn't realy following the thread, but did you check the archives
to see if the messages got thru to the list itself?
I think maybe they got there, but didn't get to you?

eric

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Re: [newbie] Have i been unsubbed ***** Eric?

 I got no mail from the list for 48 hours. Sent a test message and
 got the following reply from SYMPA.
 
  To distribute the attached message in list newbie :
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  dd7de34f7ba32975b09 Or send a message to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following subject :
  CONFIRM 221bcbeb59ez3dd7de34f7ba32975b09
 
 Which I have done.
 
 I am now waiting with bated breath to see if the mail starts
 flowing again.

That confirmation message is only for that post itself.  It doesn't
subscribe you.

When you see that message, it's means you've been unsubbed.

I just resubbed you, so no need to if you haven't already...

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Re: [newbie] test

  According to a message on the expert list, apparently at some
  point sympa lost its connection and the ability to send.  This
  resulted in all the messages remaining in the queue being
  bounced.  Bounced message = bad address in sympa's eyes, so all
  those addresses were unsubbed.  This affected the majority of
  subscribers to all the mandrake lists.

I think that is a good explanation, but i hadn't heard it
definitively.

 Ahah!
 That would explain why the adress I'm using now wasn't
 unsubbed...It was set to nomail thus not queued.

Well, now that you mention it, after the Great Cleanout of 2003, a
lot of the remaining addresses were either set to digest or
nomail...

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze

 Marc, you have the infamous missing icons problem. This is a bug
 in 9.2. Drove me crazy until Derek gave me the key. I'll take the 
 liberty of quoting Derek :
 
 To get your menus back if you lose them:-
 
 Ctl+Alt+F1 to get a text console. log in as root then
 update-menus -v
 Ctl+Alt+F7 to go back to X. Your menus will now be normal.

I posted an update notice the other day, but was probably missed
inthe confusion
subject = 
Fw: MDKA-2003:030 - Updated rpm packages fix database locking bug 
(or see below)

Have you updated since the initial install?

eric



Package name:   rpm
 Advisory ID:MDKA-2003:030
 Date:   November 18th, 2003

 Affected versions:  9.2

___
___

 Problem Description:

 A bug was found in the way that rpm locks it's database in that it
 prevents update-menus from running properly and can cause the loss
of
 KDE, GNOME, and other WM menus.
 
 This package provides a better locking mechanism that should
prevent
 this improper behaviour.

___
___

 Updated Packages:
  
 Mandrake Linux 9.2:
 8fa66e2b1aa81c6ce2d82afe3653127a 
9.2/RPMS/rpm-4.2-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm
 5b1b98503517529c5ddd1fcb55777410 
9.2/RPMS/rpm-build-4.2-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm
 ae16c770dd50267c0bfc241375614e54 
9.2/RPMS/rpm-devel-4.2-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm
 7950798546366ab926605f6b82810bcb 
9.2/RPMS/rpm-python-4.2-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm
 3e793e8944ccbfd7f7d43ea9ff37ab4c 
9.2/RPMS/popt-1.8-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm
 15069be864356db8bf1954a112566419 
9.2/RPMS/popt-devel-1.8-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm
 90002ee1e3750c3bb6c9bb6a9b974b49 
9.2/SRPMS/rpm-4.2-21.2.92mdk.src.rpm

___


 Bug IDs fixed (see http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com for more
information):

  30 - Rpm lock on database causes KDE menu to disappear when
installing RPMS



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Re: [newbie] setting up to update the distributed kernel

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Friday 21 November 2003 8:36 pm, don fisher wrote:
 I am trying to change some of the defaults in the distributed kernel.
 My experience has been with RedHat, until they raised the flag;-)

 How does one get from the source distribution, with all of the patches
 etc, to a /usr/src/linux-2.4.22-10mdk tree I can modify and build
 from. When I installed the RPM, it put the sections in /usr/src/RPM...
 like one would expect if not building a kernel.

 I could find no documentation that did not assume a /usr/src/linux
 directory exists.

 Sorry if this is a dumb one.
 don

There are no dumb questions Don. Unless you don't ask them of course. (-;

But it isn't all that clear what you want to do.

Are you trying to customize your kernel?

http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/index.html#ku

It will be in in /usr/src/kernelversion; but you have to install the 
kernel-source rpm for that. Unless you want to _really_ build it from 
scratch. If that's what you want you'll have to wait for someone knowledgable 
comes along. I may be able to do it, but explain it in plain English.nah!

HTH
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze

On Saturday 22 November 2003 01:52 pm, Marc wrote:
    We ran memtest and the memory appears to be OK.
 This is all starting to seem like a hardware problem but I cant
 quite put my finger on what it might be.
   Anyone here have any ideas?

Newer kernels seem to be getting much less tolerant of 
marginal hardware and/or configuration (and overclocking).

ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/mprime235.tar.gz

D/l that and unpack it. cd to the directory it's in and run
'./mprime -m'then choose number 17 from the menu (torture 
test).  You should be able to run it for several hours without it 
stopping on 'hardware errors'. The longer you can run it the 
better. You should never see a hardware error tho.  Much better 
PSU/ motherboard/ cpu/ cache/ ram/ test than memtest86.  Both 
apps test all those simultaneously (there is no such thing as 
software 'just a  ram' tester), and the problems you describe 
could be attributed to any one or a combination of those 
components.

I recently had to replace a two month old Aopen KT400a chipset 
motherboard that began causing similar problems. While I was at 
it I replaced Kingston ram (dubious reliability) with a stick of 
Crucial/Micron.  No more problems ;)  The Kingston would pass 
memtest86 with flying colors, but error with mprime, even in my 
new KT600 Asus board, even at minimal timings and overvolted to 
2.65v.  Which by the way is the first thing to try... up the 
voltage to the cpu slightly (1.7v for an XP) and for the ram (2.6 
to 2.7v). See if that helps.  Also try taking the case cover off 
and pointing a table fan into the box to eliminate overheating 
problems. Try with and without, while testing with mprime.

In fairness to Aopen, it was running an XP 3000+ severely 
overclocked (2.4+ Ghz, XP 3500?). I'm not pushing the Asus quite 
as hard ;)  The 3000 is now at 2.2 Ghz, XP 3200+, 1.65v, the 
Crucial at 2.5-3-3 at 2.65v
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[newbie] 9.2, sound and the gimp

2003-11-22 Thread Josenildo Marques

Hello !

I've installed Mandrake 9.2 and everything is OK, save there is no sound
output and the gimp is empty, i.e., no patterns, no brushes, etc. Also,
the gimp was not installed by default, which I thought was weird...
My sound card is a Sound Blaster Live!. Maybe the problem is that I have
two sound cards, but I had no problems with that in the previous 9.1.
I've installed Alsamixergui, Gnome-Alsa, Aumix and tried Kmix, but still
nothing. I've spent the whole evening trying to get sorted out, but now
I'm feeling a complete idiot...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] cyb]$ aumix -q
vol 100, 100
synth 100, 100, R
pcm 100, 100, R
speaker 100, 100
line 100, 100, R
mic 100, 100, R
cd 100, 100, R
line1 100, 100, R

[EMAIL PROTECTED] cyb]$ lspcidrake -v | fgrep AUDIO
snd-cmipci  : C-Media Electronics Inc|CM8738 [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO]
(vendor:13f6 device:0111 subv:1043 subd:80e2)
snd-emu10k1 : Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio) [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO]
(vendor:1102 device:0002 subv:1102 subd:8040)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cyb]$ grep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf
alias sound-slot-0 snd-cmipci
alias sound-slot-1 snd-emu10k1

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Re: [newbie] Checking md5som of iso created from burnt CD

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Saturday 22 November 2003 4:01 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Having burnt iso to CD I wish to check the result by remaking an iso
 file of the CD and running md5sum against on that iso file, but, I seem
 to have a problem with the mkisofs part of it,

You can check whether the ISO burnt true by just running

md5sum -c /mnt/cdrom

or a few other methods I'll list below.

 mount /mnt/cdrom

You use automount don't you? Or supermount? Try without this step, mounting a 
CD twice will generally result in an error of some sort.

 cd /root/tmp
 ls
 mkisofs -r -J -v -o temp.iso /mnt/cdrom/*
 mkisofs 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu)
 Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc
 Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install
 Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install/af
 Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install/ar

snip

 I don't know what  autorun.exe  is doing here , but is there some way I
 can tell mkisofs to ignore it and proceed.

I still think it was because the disk was being mounted twice John but I've 
been wrong before.

 Any suggestions welcome.

 John

Methods to check md5sums, stolen from various sources over the last few years:

The hard way:

perl -e 'use lib qw(/usr/lib/libDrakX); use detect_devices; use Data::Dumper; 
print Dumper([ detect_devices::cdroms() ]), \n;'

The easy way for ISOs on hard drive or burned to CD:

mkcd --checkdisc ISO mount point md5 file

An even easier way:

mkcd --checkmd5 iso file

This works both with an iso file downloaded on your filesystem 
(mkcd --checkmd5 /path/to/iso/Mandrake.iso) and on a burnt CD (mkcd --checkmd5 
/dev/thedevice).

and the ever popular

md5sum -c /pathtodevice/pathtoimage

HTH
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze

2003-11-22 Thread dgordon8

On November 22, 2003 12:38 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

 Marc, you have the infamous missing icons problem. This is a bug
 in 9.2. Drove me crazy until Derek gave me the key. I'll take the
 liberty of quoting Derek :

 To get your menus back if you lose them:-

 Ctl+Alt+F1 to get a text console. log in as root then
 update-menus -v
 Ctl+Alt+F7 to go back to X. Your menus will now be normal.

 Furthermore, if you installed fluxbox, there another bug :

 When you run 'update-menus -v' do you see some text about a syntax
 error in a line about fluxbox? If so edit /etc/menu/menudrakeentry
 find the line causing the problem. I think it is this one

 ?package(menu): needs=fluxbox icon=applications_section.png
 section=Fluxbox/Styles/ title= charset=utf8

 and insert some text (any text) between the quotes after 'title='
 Then run update-menus again


I just tryed this and it seems to be hanging at running 
method:/etc/menu-methods/simplified/gnome
Any ideas ?

Regards,
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[newbie] video problem under several programs

2003-11-22 Thread Cenora

Hello,

	I using MDK9.2 now, but this problem comes from 9.1. The thing is: when 
I am running Konqueror and try to order the files by date, or when I am 
running mozilla (no matter if 1.3, 1.4 or 1.5) and click on some 
javascript links, on sites like www.whiplash.net or my webmail site 
(lucky I am I use pop), there appears on my screen a grey block, 
occupying half screen, full of little rectangles. Then it remains 
impossible to move the mouse or anything for some seconds, and finally 
it comes back to normal, only the screen remaining grey, but as I move 
any window it gets ok.

What can it be?

Thiago


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[newbie] Superuser

2003-11-22 Thread Cenora

Hello,

I have just installed MDK9.2. How do I run a terminal under superuser 
mode, or the file manager under this mode? They just don appear on the menu.

Thanks

Thiago


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Re: [newbie] Superuser

2003-11-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Saturday 22 November 2003 17:15, Cenora wrote:
 Hello,

 I have just installed MDK9.2. How do I run a terminal under superuser
 mode, or the file manager under this mode? They just don appear on the
 menu.

 Thanks

 Thiago
open terminal- type: su and enter root password.
then konqueror on the that Command Line for the filemanager in su-mode
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Re: [newbie] Superuser

 I have just installed MDK9.2. How do I run a terminal under
 superuser mode, or the file manager under this mode? They just don
 appear on the menu.

You could just open a terminal and su enter and root password.

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Re: [newbie] Checking md5som of iso created from burnt CD

On Saturday 22 November 2003 11:01 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Having burnt iso to CD I wish to check the result by remaking
 an iso file of the CD and running md5sum against on that iso
 file, but, I seem to have a problem with the mkisofs part of
 it,

  Man, I can hardly tell what your tryin to accomplish ;) 
Seems your tryin to make an image of an image ;)

   If you burned the iso to disk with Disk at Once, eg,
  cdrecord -v -eject speed=12 dev=0,0,0 -dao
then the md5sum should still check when you run
   'md5sum /dev/scd0'   (assuming your burner is scd0)

Use your burner, not the cdrom (if you have one) to check 
md5sum. It's a more reliable reader. Then you can check the CDrom 
(again assuming you have a separate one), by putting the CD in 
and runnin 'dd if=/mnt/cdrom of=name_of.iso'  
That'll recreate the iso on your HDD in the dir you're in. Then 
run  'md5sum name_of.iso'  and you should still get the correct 
md5sum.  You can use anything you want for 'name_of'. If that 
md5sum fails, then it's your CDrom that's suspect.

 mount /mnt/cdrom
 cd /root/tmp
 ls
 mkisofs -r -J -v -o temp.iso /mnt/cdrom/*
 mkisofs 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu)
 Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc
 Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install
 Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install/af
 Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install/ar

 big snip

 Scanning
 /mnt/cdrom/misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi
/URPM Scanning /mnt/cdrom/misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/Image
 Scanning /mnt/cdrom/misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/Mkcd
 Using READM000.;1 for  /README (README)
 Using READM001.;1 for  /README (README)
 Using RAWWR000.EXE;1 for  /rawwritewin.exe (rawwrite.exe)
 Using AUTOR000.EXE;1 for  /autorun.exe (autorun.exe)
 mkisofs: Error: '/mnt/cdrom/dosutils/autorun.exe' and
 '/mnt/cdrom/autorun.exe' have the same Rock Ridge name
 'autorun.exe'. mkisofs: Error: '/mnt/cdrom/images/README' and
 '/mnt/cdrom/dosutils/README' have the same Rock Ridge name
 'README'. mkisofs: Error: '/mnt/cdrom/misc/README' and
 '/mnt/cdrom/images/README' have the same Rock Ridge name
 'README'.
 mkisofs: Unable to sort directory

 I don't know what  autorun.exe  is doing here , but is there
 some way I can tell mkisofs to ignore it and proceed.

 Any suggestions welcome.

 John

   IIRC, autorun.exe is for starting the install from Windoze. 
Leave it in otherwise a new hdlist for the iso will be needed 
(genhdlist).
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Re: [newbie] NVIDIA drivers

2003-11-22 Thread Greg Meyer

On Saturday 22 November 2003 09:18 am, Andreas Dittrich wrote:
 I cant get the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run to install the
 nvidia-driver for my GF4 MX. It says it cant find the header files. I'm
 running the 2.4.22.10 kernel (standard 9.2 ?) and I installed a src-RPM
 for that kernel.

You need the kernel-source-XX.i586.rpm not the kernel src.rpm  XX 
being whatever your kernel is.
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Re: [newbie] NVIDIA drivers

2003-11-22 Thread Andreas Dittrich

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Re: [newbie] Fw: Mplayer sound out of sync

On Friday 21 November 2003 06:05 pm, Andrew  Mann wrote:
 I have just ripped a dvd using mplayer , which I have done many
 times before ok.

 but this time the picture is not in sync with the sound

 and i had a different message appear in the output script as
 below

 Mencoder dev-CVS--3.2.2 (C) 2000-2003 MPlayer Team

   What CL syntax are you usin with mencoder to do this? I'm 
mostly just curious as I only recently got a DVD/CDrom myself. 
I've had a lot of luck just copying all the files in the VIDEO_TS 
directory on the DVD to a HDD dir. Then play the movie with
  'mplayer dvd://1 -dvd-device /path/to/movie/name_of_movie'

   Or you can 'dd if=/dev/hdc of=name_of_movie'   that'll make a 
copy of the DVD in the dir you run the command from. You'll just 
get an extra 500mb's of useless M$ setup BS tho.  Out of 9 DVD's 
I have, only two refuse to be copied (an they're both older 
movies?). Well, I can copy 'em, but some of the .vob files come 
out -0- byte. No matter how I copy 'em. I've even tried playin 
the movie to a file, eg, 
'mplayer dvd://1 -dvd-device /dev/hdc  /home/tom/name_of_movie'
The same .vob's come up -0- byte. Evidently there's some copy 
protection libdvdcss isn't gettin around (?).

 I've done alot of reencoding .avi, .mpg, .wmv files with 
mencoder and it often results in a sound not in sync situation. I 
just deal with it by using the + and - keys to sync sound during 
playback. Which is why I like mplayer so much, the ability to 
adjust contrast, brightness, tint, color level, sync, and sound 
volume on the fly during playback.  I'm currently usin,
mplayer-1.0-0.pre2.4plf
mencoder-1.0-0.pre2.4plf
libdvdread3-0.9.4-2mdk
libdvdcss2-1.2.8-1plf
plus all the other PLF codecs
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Re: [newbie] Have i been unsubbed ***** Eric?

2003-11-22 Thread Graham Watkins

Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Saturday 22 November 2003 05:34 am, Graham Watkins wrote:

Michael Adams wrote:

Anyways, i stopped receiving mail from newbie, should i resubscribe?

Hmm i'll perhaps have to read your reply on the archives.
I got no mail from the list for 48 hours. Sent a test message and got
the following reply from SYMPA.
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Which I have done.

I am now waiting with bated breath to see if the mail starts flowing again.


Graham:
If the mail hasn't started by now, you'll have to resubscribe by sending an 
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[newbie] England

Hey,

England won the world cup 

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Re: [newbie] Have i been unsubbed ***** Eric?

 In fact judging by the 3 Welcome To Newbie 
 messages I got, I have subscribed 3 times. Oh well, at least they
 know I'm not kidding.

2 of those were probably me.
In sylpheed, i made an action that makes it so easy to add people, i
do it whenever i see someone trying to sub w/o checking to see if
it's been done already.

I didn't realize people would get another welcome message if they
were already subbed...

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Re: [newbie] Checking md5som of iso created from burnt CD

Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Saturday 22 November 2003 11:01 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Having burnt iso to CD I wish to check the result by remaking
an iso file of the CD and running md5sum against on that iso
file, but, I seem to have a problem with the mkisofs part of
it,
   

 Man, I can hardly tell what your tryin to accomplish ;) 
Seems your tryin to make an image of an image ;)

No,  burnt iso to cd create bootable cd's. It's not a store iso file.
I'm trying to check the bootable cd by remaking the iso
and comparing it with the mandrake supplied md5sums.
 

mount /mnt/cdrom
cd /root/tmp
ls
mkisofs -r -J -v -o temp.iso /mnt/cdrom/*
mkisofs 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu)
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install/af
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install/ar
big snip

Scanning
/mnt/cdrom/misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi
/URPM Scanning /mnt/cdrom/misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/Image
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/misc/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/Mkcd
Using READM000.;1 for  /README (README)
Using READM001.;1 for  /README (README)
Using RAWWR000.EXE;1 for  /rawwritewin.exe (rawwrite.exe)
Using AUTOR000.EXE;1 for  /autorun.exe (autorun.exe)
mkisofs: Error: '/mnt/cdrom/dosutils/autorun.exe' and
'/mnt/cdrom/autorun.exe' have the same Rock Ridge name
'autorun.exe'. mkisofs: Error: '/mnt/cdrom/images/README' and
'/mnt/cdrom/dosutils/README' have the same Rock Ridge name
'README'. mkisofs: Error: '/mnt/cdrom/misc/README' and
'/mnt/cdrom/images/README' have the same Rock Ridge name
'README'.
mkisofs: Unable to sort directory
I don't know what  autorun.exe  is doing here , but is there
some way I can tell mkisofs to ignore it and proceed.
Any suggestions welcome.

John
   

  IIRC, autorun.exe is for starting the install from Windoze. 
Leave it in otherwise a new hdlist for the iso will be needed 
(genhdlist)

OK, but I've never noticed it before, nor any wish to, god forbid I 
should install linux in windows.

But I found I can overcome the problem with,

mkisofs -v -o temp.iso /mnt/cdrom/*

but that cuts our  -r recursive , and -j  something to do with joliet file systems, and the question is will the resulting md5sum be the same as that provided by mandrake on their web site, because , I'm thinking that maybe it makes a  difference to the end result ?

So I guess I'm really asking is how would mandrake of create their md5sums in the first place , what exact command line would they employ, and does it make a difference which flags are used ?

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Re: [newbie] England

2003-11-22 Thread Josenildo Marques

Em Sáb, 2003-11-22 às 17:56, John Richard Smith escreveu:
 Hey,
 
 England won the world cup 
 
 John

Dear John

The English team has excellent players, but...
they are no match to the Brazilian players !
:-)
best regards

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze

2003-11-22 Thread Kaj Haulrich

On Saturday 22 November 2003 17:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
 I just tryed this and it seems to be hanging at running
 method:/etc/menu-methods/simplified/gnome
 Any ideas ?
/snip

Yes. Mine does the same thing. Doesn't matter. Just press enter 
and you are done.

I don't know why update-menus -v doesn't exit correctly, but since 
there's no STDERR, I just ignore it.

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Re: [newbie] Uber Linux-Noob here. 1st question

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 I have Mandrake 9.1 installed on my machine, and durring installation it
 didn't have an option for the correct drivers for my printer (Lexmark X75).
  Anyone know where I can find these (if they are even available now), or if
 there are other compatible drivers that might work?  Thanks.

All in ones are barely supported and very few work, Lexmark isn't one of them. 

Read the information here:

http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html

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Re: [newbie] Checking md5som of iso created from burnt CD

Charlie Mahan wrote:

Saturday 22 November 2003 4:01 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

Having burnt iso to CD I wish to check the result by remaking an iso
file of the CD and running md5sum against on that iso file, but, I seem
to have a problem with the mkisofs part of it,
You can check whether the ISO burnt true by just running

md5sum -c /mnt/cdrom

or a few other methods I'll list below.
The resulting md5sum is not the same as mandrake provide because 
Mandrake  md5sum an iso, I'm not md5sum ing an iso , but the bootable CD 
by this method.
To get a comparable situation I too have to create a new iso file of the 
bootable cd and then md5sum that to compare with mandrakes published iso 
md5sums.



mount /mnt/cdrom

You use automount don't you? Or supermount? Try without this step, 
mounting a
CD twice will generally result in an error of some sort.
Yep, but I know I'm not mounting twice. andyhow you cannot.



cd /root/tmp
ls
mkisofs -r -J -v -o temp.iso /mnt/cdrom/*
mkisofs 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu)
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install/af
Scanning /mnt/cdrom/doc/install/ar


Methods to check md5sums, stolen from various sources over the last 
few years:

The hard way:

perl -e 'use lib qw(/usr/lib/libDrakX); use detect_devices; use 
Data::Dumper;
print Dumper([ detect_devices::cdroms() ]), \n;'
Charlie you beat me here , I don't understand this one at all.
It's some kind of perl script to enploy DrakX to cough up a something 
from the cd ?
I'll mess with that tomorrow when I've got more time.



The easy way for ISOs on hard drive or burned to CD:

mkcd --checkdisc ISO mount point md5 file
Ah, well, see, I deleted the iso I downloaded to make way for the next disc.
So I cannot work with the original iso image which incidentally checked 
out fine with the usual md5sum check.



An even easier way:

mkcd --checkmd5 iso file

This works both with an iso file downloaded on your filesystem
(mkcd --checkmd5 /path/to/iso/Mandrake.iso) and on a burnt CD (mkcd 
--checkmd5
/dev/thedevice).
I think you showed me this before but again it does not make an md5sum 
of the iso image which is the only md5sum I have , which I downloaded 
from mandrake.



and the ever popular

md5sum -c /pathtodevice/pathtoimage
again not iso image file left to work with

Actually, just as a matter of interest I have another method.
Cribbed from the net.
but you do have to have the original iso image file,
ce directory iso image file,

ls -ls   isofilename.iso  to find the filesize, in bytes, of the ISO image

Divide that by 2048 to find the number of sectors:(xx)

Put the CD into a drive but don't mount it.

dd if=/dev/(x) bs=2048 count=(xx) | md5sum -
where (x) is your device(eg. hdc, or scd0),
where (xx) is the number of sectors
That gives you two identicle numbers

So for the moment I need to remake an iso of the bootable CD, then 
md5sum it and compare it with mandrakes md5sums, as I do not now have 
the iso image file, and i cannot spend another week downloading it.

So the main question is how do I create an iso image file in exactly the 
same fashion as Mandrake did originally ?

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[newbie] SOS mdk v9.2(Download ED.) freezes on boot

2003-11-22 Thread Sotocan

Hello mates,

First of all you need to know
my hardware:

Mobo:
MSI 865PE Neo2 FIS2R BIOS v1.4 - build date 18/08/03,

CPU:
Intel P4 2,8 FSB800 HT (HT is enabled in the BIOS),

2x256
DDR 400 RAM,

VGA:
MSI FX5900-VTD128 BIOS v4.35.20.18.04,

Hdds:
(BIOS setting: native mode; that is 4 IDE channels)

Hitachi SATA Deskstar
7K250 -
80GB,

IBM
DeathStar DTLA 307030 (operating in PIO mode only!)

Cd-roms:
Plextor CDRW and a Pioneer DVD-rom

I have a dual-boot system
(the other OS is winXP, which boots normally). My problems with mdk 9.2

started very early. During
the installation process and right after the mouse configuration and testing
screens, my computer

freezes. I reset it a couple
of times but no progress could be made. Finally, I decided to unplug the
DeathStar. Voila, the installation

process proceeded normally.
Now the boot problem.

If I choose the
linux-smp kernel the system freezes right after the

Finding modules dependences [OK]

cursor blinks for a
second or two here and then freezes.

If I plug the IBMs
hdd, the linux-smp kernel always freezes when it tries to
activate the DMA on that disk

Now my other option is to
boot with the standard (non-smp) kernel.

This kernel always passes the
step of trying to activate the DMA on the IBMs hdd (without actually
succeeding this is not an

issue since even winXP fails,
so its the hdd that is problematic).

This kernel also manages 3
out of 4 times to start the X-server, but exactly then it freezes the system as
well (Grrr!!!)

The failsafe
kernel always boots normally, unless I press Y in the HDDs
integrity check question(that is when I havent

shutdown the system
properly). Fsck ALWAYS freezes the system after 35% - 70% completion (Once it
managed to check one

partition completely, but
right after that my computer reboot-itself !!!)

I couldnt find much in
the error logs, but one thing might be useful to you:

In /var/log/kernel/errors
file, whenever I dont boot with the failsafe kernel the
following errors appear:

Note: ide is
the Hitachi SATA device.

errors:

Kernel:
ide: late registration of driver

Kernel:
Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap partition location (resume= parameter).
Disabled.

Swap partition should be
valid since I re-installed the OS, reformatting all the partitions in the
process

A final note, all the
partitions (except swap J) in the ide drive use the ext3-fs.

Do you think updating to kernel-smp-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm,will solve my problems ???

Thanks in advance

Re: [newbie] England

2003-11-22 Thread John Wilson

On November 22, 2003 09:13 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 Em Sb, 2003-11-22 s 17:56, John Richard Smith escreveu:
  Hey,
 
  England won the world cup 
 
  John

 Dear John

 The English team has excellent players, but...
 they are no match to the Brazilian players !

 :-)

 best regards

 JM

Brazil plays rugby? :-)

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 running worse than windoze

On Saturday 22 November 2003 05:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  and insert some text (any text) between the quotes after
  'title=' Then run update-menus again

 I just tryed this and it seems to be hanging at running
 method:/etc/menu-methods/simplified/gnome
 Any ideas ?

   Don't use the -v switch, run 'update-menus -n'

   If it still hangs at method:/etc/menu-methods/simplified/gnome, 
then just hit Enter

   The -n switch is undocumented, but it's the current wisdom of 
the developers on the cooker list. In any event, the hang at 
'gnome' is the end of the process and hanging there won't cause 
the menus update to be unsuccessful.

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[newbie] xmms won't play songs consecutively

2003-11-22 Thread David-Linux



After googling all morning, I still haven't found anything on this.  

Xmms works fine as far as playing a file.  The problem comes when I try to 
play a playlist or a directory.  When I try to play a playlist or a directory, the 
whole directory/playlist will load correctly, but when a song finishes, the next song 
will not play.  I must either highlight another song and click play(or double-click) 
or I must click the 'next track' button.  Anyone have any idea what's going on?  

TIA

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Re: [newbie] England

2003-11-22 Thread Josenildo Marques

Em Sáb, 2003-11-22 às 20:19, John Wilson escreveu:
 On November 22, 2003 09:13 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
  Em Sáb, 2003-11-22 às 17:56, John Richard Smith escreveu:
   Hey,
  
   England won the world cup 
  
   John
 
  Dear John
 
  The English team has excellent players, but...
  they are no match to the Brazilian players !
 
  :-)
 
  best regards
 
  JM
 
 Brazil plays rugby? :-)
 
 ttfn

No ! Why !? g
What does 'ttfn' mean ?

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Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc

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Hi Greg,

On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 11:47:17 AM PST, you wrote:

 Yes. Put them all on one disk, ...

I'm still a little confused (my natural state)...

What exactly do you mean by them all? At the MDK ftp updates site,
there is a folder called 9.2. Inside that folder are three folders
(Base, RPMS, and SRPMS) and a few loose files (descriptions, ls-lR,
md5sums) [I'm not sure if that one file is ls-lR, or Is-IR (or
something else?). Anyway...

Are all the actual update files contained in RPMS and SRPMS?

 ... then define the disk as a urpmi source. Then you can go into the
 software installer and it will tell you what needs to be updated. To
 define them as a source, go into the software sources manager and
 add the disk or directory.

To lessen my own confusion a bit, I did the following:

I created three new directories (by the way...where's the most logical
place to put such directories?), and copied/pasted the contents of their
corresponding folders from the CD-R:

1) /MDKUpdateRPMS
2) /MDKUpdateSRPMS
3) /MDKUpdateBase (I also put the three loose files in here)

Then, I added each of those new directories to the list of places to
look for updated files.  Here's how I added the new directories:

K menu, then to Configuration/Packaging/Software Media Manager.
Was that the right place to deal with that to make the files available
to urpmi?

 2) If I do have all the files on one CD-R, what is the best way to
install what's needed and/or wanted?

 Put them all in one directory available from Linux.

Again...where's the most logical place to put such a directory? For
the moment, I've placed them under /home/melissa/...

 The command is urpmi --auto-select --update

 This will install all the security fixes and updates based on the
 packages you already have installed, in other words, updating them
 to the latest versions.

Oops!  Here's what I get from that command:

Everything is already installed

What am I doing wrong here?

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Re: [newbie] xmms won't play songs consecutively

2003-11-22 Thread Merlin Zener

On Sun, 1999-06-06 at 13:38, David-Linux wrote:
 
 
   After googling all morning, I still haven't found anything on this.  
 
   Xmms works fine as far as playing a file.  The problem comes when I try to 
 play a playlist or a directory.  When I try to play a playlist or a directory, the 
 whole directory/playlist will load correctly, but when a song finishes, the next 
 song will not play.  I must either highlight another song and click play(or 
 double-click) or I must click the 'next track' button.  Anyone have any idea what's 
 going on?  
 

CTRL-N will fix it.

or, if you prefer the mouse way:

right-click in an empty area of the main window to bring up the
drop-down menu. move the mouse down till it hovers over the word
Options. A second drop-down menu will appear: the sixth item down from
the top is the one you want: No Playlist Advance. [otherwise known as
DJ mode]
You'll want to have this option UNCHECKED to have the playlist advance
normally.

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Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc

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Hi Me,

On Saturday, November 22, 2003, at 12:58:34 PM PST, I wrote:

 Then, I added each of those new directories to the list of places to
 look for updated files. Here's how I added the new directories:

 K menu, then to Configuration/Packaging/Software Media Manager.
 Was that the right place to deal with that to make the files
 available to urpmi?

Oh!  Also...

In the where I'm defining the path to the directories, there's an
option I don't understand:

[ ] relative path to synthesis/hdlist

What does this mean?  I did notice that if I right-click on one of
media sources in the list, there's a choice to regenerate hdlist
(something like that), but I don't know what this means.

Thanks!

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[newbie] trouble upgrading Kino from 0.51 to 0.64

2003-11-22 Thread Merlin Zener

Hi,

I have ver0.51 installed on my Mandrake9.0 system here, and I've just
managed to get it working after sorting out the missing subsystem
problem that a few other have had. But I can't seem to save stills - in
the capture mode, I can click on the Still button and it opens up a
typical save dialog box but after browsing to the location I want and
entering the filename I want, there is no file written. Not there, not
anywhere. I can capture video to the same location no trouble, but I
want to be able to capture stills too.

I looked here and in the help file but didn't see any mention of this
problem. Indeed, the help file does not even mention the capture mode at
all, nor the stills function...

Then I noticed there is a much more recent version available so I
downloaded it. Following the instructions after extracting the archive I
entered ./configure and got the following error:

$ ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr//bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles...
no
checking for gnome-config... no
checking for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found
configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated
by gnome-libs install

Can anyone tell me what to do about this? I'm using KDE, not Gnome, if
that makes any difference.

TIA

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Thailand.

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Re: [newbie] England

2003-11-22 Thread Anne Wilson

On Saturday 22 Nov 2003 6:30 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 Em SÃ¡b, 2003-11-22 Ã s 20:19, John Wilson escreveu:
  On November 22, 2003 09:13 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
   Em SÃ¡b, 2003-11-22 Ã s 17:56, John Richard Smith escreveu:
Hey,
   
England won the world cup 
   
John
  
   Dear John
  
   The English team has excellent players, but...
   they are no match to the Brazilian players !
  
   :-)
  
   best regards
  
   JM
 
  Brazil plays rugby? :-)
 
  ttfn

 No ! Why !? g

The big match today was Rugby Union.

 What does 'ttfn' mean ?

An old wartime saying - 'Ta-ta for now'  'Bye

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Re: [newbie] xmms won't play songs consecutively

2003-11-22 Thread David

On 23 Nov 2003 04:00:22 +0700

Merlin Zener pulled out a pad and began to scribble.:


 CTRL-N will fix it.
 
 or, if you prefer the mouse way:
 
 right-click in an empty area of the main window to bring up the
 drop-down menu. move the mouse down till it hovers over the word
 Options. A second drop-down menu will appear: the sixth item down from
 the top is the one you want: No Playlist Advance. [otherwise known as
 DJ mode]
 You'll want to have this option UNCHECKED to have the playlist advance
 normally.
 
 HTH
 
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 Piano, Synthesizer
 Thailand.
 
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Thanx for the reply, but that option wasn't checked.  Any other ideas? 




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Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc

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Saturday 22 November 2003 2:03 pm, Melissa Reese wrote:
chop

Hi Me,

 Oh!  Also...

 In the where I'm defining the path to the directories, there's an
 option I don't understand:

 [ ] relative path to synthesis/hdlist

In your case, and from what you posted already, the relative path (I found 
where you added my update packages but where the hell are the descriptions?) 
is /MDKUpdateBase/hdlist.cz

For now...

 What does this mean?  I did notice that if I right-click on one of
 media sources in the list, there's a choice to regenerate hdlist
 (something like that), but I don't know what this means.

 Thanks!

HTH
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Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc

2003-11-22 Thread Greg Meyer

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 Hi Me,

 On Saturday, November 22, 2003, at 12:58:34 PM PST, I wrote:
  Then, I added each of those new directories to the list of places to
  look for updated files. Here's how I added the new directories:
 
  K menu, then to Configuration/Packaging/Software Media Manager.
  Was that the right place to deal with that to make the files
  available to urpmi?

 Oh!  Also...

 In the where I'm defining the path to the directories, there's an
 option I don't understand:

 [ ] relative path to synthesis/hdlist

 What does this mean?  I did notice that if I right-click on one of
 media sources in the list, there's a choice to regenerate hdlist
 (something like that), but I don't know what this means.

There is a file on the update mirrors in the base directory called hdlist.cz, 
and it contains information about the RPMS in the directory.  if the file is 
missing, the sources manager can regenerate it if it missing, but if you are 
using a source across the internet, that can take a long time.

Relative path means the path to the hdlist file relative to the directory the 
RPMs are in, so if the hdlist file is in the directory with the RPMs, the 
relative path is ./ (current directory) but if the hdlist file is in the base 
directory, for the updates the relative path would be ../base

BTW, the . always refers to the current directory and the .. always refers to 
the parent directory.
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Re: [newbie] England

2003-11-22 Thread Greg Meyer

On Saturday 22 November 2003 04:18 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
  
   ttfn
 
  No ! Why !? g

 The big match today was Rugby Union.

  What does 'ttfn' mean ?

 An old wartime saying - 'Ta-ta for now'  'Bye

 Anne

Gentle nudge to the OT list :-)
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Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc

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Saturday 22 November 2003 1:58 pm, Melissa Reese wrote:
 Hi Greg,

 On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 11:47:17 AM PST, you wrote:
  Yes. Put them all on one disk, ...

 I'm still a little confused (my natural state)...

 What exactly do you mean by them all? At the MDK ftp updates site,
 there is a folder called 9.2. Inside that folder are three folders
 (Base, RPMS, and SRPMS) and a few loose files (descriptions, ls-lR,
 md5sums) [I'm not sure if that one file is ls-lR, or Is-IR (or
 something else?). Anyway...

The hdlist you need for urpmi is in the /base directory. md5sums is a security 
measure used by urpmi. Yes, urpmi is the command line tool, rpmdrake is the 
frontend that uses it. In oversimplified terms of course.

 Are all the actual update files contained in RPMS and SRPMS?

Unless you want to kill some time you don't really need the SRPMS directory at 
all Melissa. Those are the actual source files the packages are built from 
and while some distributions are built optimized using sources there isn't 
enough of a performance improvement for you to bother at the moment. Just 
/base /RPMS and the md5sums is fine.

  ... then define the disk as a urpmi source. Then you can go into the
  software installer and it will tell you what needs to be updated. To
  define them as a source, go into the software sources manager and
  add the disk or directory.

 To lessen my own confusion a bit, I did the following:

 I created three new directories (by the way...where's the most logical
 place to put such directories?), and copied/pasted the contents of their
 corresponding folders from the CD-R:

What's logic have to do with it? g You have what you need, but mirror what 
you saw on the server. Don't move files to directories they weren't 
originally in. I would put all three into an updates directory though.

 1) /MDKUpdateRPMS
 2) /MDKUpdateSRPMS
 3) /MDKUpdateBase (I also put the three loose files in here)

See above, you didn't really need the SRPMS directory but it doesn't hurt 
anything.

 Then, I added each of those new directories to the list of places to
 look for updated files.  Here's how I added the new directories:

 K menu, then to Configuration/Packaging/Software Media Manager.
 Was that the right place to deal with that to make the files available
 to urpmi?

Yes. Or do it from a konsole as super user:

urpmi.addmedia updates /home/melissa/MDKUpdateRPMS with 
../MDKUpdateBase/hdlist.cz

all on one line, single spaced where spaces are needed. You could just copy 
and paste that line above into the super user konsole and hit enter.

  2) If I do have all the files on one CD-R, what is the best way to
 install what's needed and/or wanted?
 
  Put them all in one directory available from Linux.

 Again...where's the most logical place to put such a directory? For
 the moment, I've placed them under /home/melissa/...

Good enough but read what I posted above. To make life easier for yourself put 
all three and any loose files into an updates directory.

  The command is urpmi --auto-select --update
 
  This will install all the security fixes and updates based on the
  packages you already have installed, in other words, updating them
  to the latest versions.

 Oops!  Here's what I get from that command:

 Everything is already installed

urpmi.update -a  urpmi --auto-select enter

After you teach urpmi where to look for updates of course. That's the stuff 
above.

 What am I doing wrong here?

 Thanks!

You're getting there. g

Have fun!
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Re: [newbie] Epson All-In-one

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Saturday 22 November 2003 5:12 pm, Russ wrote:
 I was just wondering about the compatibility of Epsons all in one
 printer scanners?

 http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductCategory.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yeso
id=-8182

 They do not show up in the Mandrake compatible hardware list.

 I am interested in the Epson Stylus CX5400

 Thanks
 Russ

The CX5200 is one of the few recommended All-in-Ones.

http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html

- From that page:

Multifunctions are generally a combination of scanner and printer, sometimes 
with a fax modem; they work as a copier, printer, fax machine, and scanner.

For a working multifunction device, consider the Epson CX3200 and CX5200 (use 
kernel 2.4.21 or newer); or one of the HP OfficeJet or PSC devices supported 
by the HPOJ project such as the PSC 2150 or PSC 750. Avoid Lexmarks, Canons. 
and Brothers.

Good luck Russ.

Regards;
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[newbie] which laser printer

2003-11-22 Thread Charlie

Getting a laser printer finally. I know someone who has several used ones that 
her company is getting rid of. All various brands and models. Are there any 
particular ones I should stay away from?

Mandrake 9.1

Thanks,


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Re: [newbie] SOS mdk v9.2(Download ED.) freezes on boot

On Friday 21 November 2003 08:54 pm, Sotocan wrote:
 Hello mates,

 First of all you need to know my hardware:
 Mobo: MSI 865PE Neo2 FIS2R - BIOS v1.4 - build date
 18/08/03,
 CPU: Intel P4 2,8 FSB800 HT (HT is enabled in the
 BIOS), 2x256 DDR 400 RAM,
 VGA: MSI FX5900-VTD128 - BIOS v4.35.20.18.04,
 Hdds: (BIOS setting: native mode; that is 4 IDE
 channels) Hitachi SATA Deskstar 7K250 - 80GB, IBM DeathStar
 DTLA 307030 (operating in PIO mode only!)
 Cd-roms: Plextor CDRW and a Pioneer DVD-rom

 Output of 'lspci' or 'lspcidrake' and 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' 
would be helpful. Also 2x256 DDR 400 RAM says practically 
nothin. Ram labeled pc3200 and DR400 could vary from junk to very 
good stuff. Vendor, ns speed, and CAS rating would rule here.  
Junk ram isn't a problem in Windoze, cause M$ doesn't use it very 
well anyhow. Linux exploits it to it's fullest.

MSI, makes good boards, but all i8whatever chipsets sort'a 
suck with any real OS, IMO. To mitigate ram problems you can 
minimize ram timings (ie, increase clock cycles for CAS, 
precharge and ras/cas, disable banking), and if your MSI/bios 
supports it, give it a little extra IO voltage, eg, increase from 
2.5 to 2.6 or 2.7. As to the Intel chipset/P4 ...well that's why 
so many people are usin AMD systems ;  BTW, your FSB is 200Mhz.  
800 is a quad pumped marketing number.

 I have a dual-boot system (the other OS is winXP, which boots
 normally). My problems with mdk 9.2
 started very early. During the installation process and right
 after the mouse configuration and testing screens, my computer
 freezes. I reset it a couple of times but no progress could be
 made. Finally, I decided to unplug the DeathStar. Voila, the
 installation process proceeded normally. Now the boot problem..
 If I choose the linux-smp kernel the system freezes right
 after the ..
 Finding modules dependences[OK]

 cursor blinks for a second or two here and then freezes.

 If I plug the IBM's hdd, the linux-smp kernel always freezes
 when it tries to activate the DMA on that disk.

 Now my other option is to boot with the standard (non-smp)
 kernel. This kernel always passes the step of trying to
 activate the DMA on the IBM's hdd (without actually succeeding
 - this is not an issue since even winXP fails, so it's the hdd
 that is problematic.). This kernel also manages 3 out of 4
 times to start the X-server, but exactly then it freezes the
 system as well (Grrr!!!)

 The failsafe kernel always boots normally, unless I press 'Y'
 in the HDDs integrity check question.(that is when I haven't
 shutdown the system properly). Fsck ALWAYS freezes the system
 after 35% - 70% completion (Once it managed to check one
 partition completely, but right after that my computer
 reboot-itself !!!)

 I couldn't find much in the error logs, but one thing might be
 useful to you:
 In /var/log/kernel/errors file, whenever I don't boot with the
 failsafe kernel the following errors appear:
 Note: ide is the Hitachi SATA device.
 errors:
 .Kernel: ide: late registration of driver
 .Kernel: Swsusp 1.0.3: Missing or invalid swap
 partition location (resume= parameter). Disabled.

 Swap partition should be valid since I re-installed the OS,
 reformatting all the partitions in the process.
 A final note, all the partitions (except swap :-)) in the ide
 drive use the ext3-fs.

ReiserFS or XFS would'a been a better choice.

 Do you think updating to
 kernel-smp-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm,will solve my problems
 ???
 Thanks in advance.

No, smp (symmetrical multi processors) is as it says for dual 
cpu systems. With 512mb ram and one cpu, you want the 'regular' 
kernel. HT (hyper threading) AFAIK is still just treated as one 
cpu. 'cpuinfo' should tell you for sure if I'm right on this.

   Other than that you probly want the newest kernel you can find, 
SATA is now only gaining some decent kernel support from all I've 
read.  Are you sure you've got the right driver for the SATA 
controller?  You're probly gonna have to search the web on this 
issue, or the linux-kernel mailing list archive. I've avoided 
SATA (ATA/133 is often faster, less cpu dependant anyhow), but 
maybe someone here or on the expert list who's tryin it can help. 
I believe that and the wrong kernel are at the heart of your 
problems. 

I believe you'd do well to boot to level three (no X) till you 
get this sorted out. You can do that by usin any one of MCC, 
editing /etc/inittab, or hit Esc at the lilo screen and typing 
'linux init 3'. You can also do that from the 1st CD by pressing 
F1 at the first screen and typing 'rescue'. After you log in at 
level three, you can then start your WM with 'startx'.
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Re: [newbie] MS Fonts?

2003-11-22 Thread Richard Urwin

On Saturday 22 Nov 2003 11:01 pm, HaywireMac wrote:
 Whatever happened to the msttcorefonts package? Can't seem to find it
 through urpmq/urpmi.

 Wouldn't mind havin' Arial and that around for opening .doc's in OO.

Happy Birthday
 http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [newbie] Superuser

2003-11-22 Thread Peter Watson

On Saturday 22 Nov 2003 4:15 pm, Cenora wrote:
 Hello,

 I have just installed MDK9.2. How do I run a terminal under superuser
 mode, or the file manager under this mode? They just don appear on the
 menu.

 Thanks

 Thiago


I don't know if this is the best solution, but I use ALT F2 then enter konsole 
or konqueror, under options  I select run as different user, enter the 
password and voila.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Epson All-In-one

2003-11-22 Thread Russ

Thanks Charlie for this info (and the link).

I was looking at the CX5200 but they are out of stock and so is Amazon. 
I think the cx5200 is being fazed out and being replaced with the 5400. 
Since they are the same price with an additional rebate for the 5200. 
Looking at the specs they seem to be the same printer.

Russ

Charlie Mahan wrote:

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Saturday 22 November 2003 5:12 pm, Russ wrote:

I was just wondering about the compatibility of Epsons all in one
printer scanners?
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductCategory.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yeso
id=-8182
They do not show up in the Mandrake compatible hardware list.

I am interested in the Epson Stylus CX5400

Thanks
Russ


The CX5200 is one of the few recommended All-in-Ones.

http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html

- From that page:

Multifunctions are generally a combination of scanner and printer, sometimes 
with a fax modem; they work as a copier, printer, fax machine, and scanner.

For a working multifunction device, consider the Epson CX3200 and CX5200 (use 
kernel 2.4.21 or newer); or one of the HP OfficeJet or PSC devices supported 
by the HPOJ project such as the PSC 2150 or PSC 750. Avoid Lexmarks, Canons. 
and Brothers.

Good luck Russ.

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] Epson All-In-one

2003-11-22 Thread Richard Urwin

On Sunday 23 Nov 2003 12:51 am, Russ wrote:
 Thanks Charlie for this info (and the link).

 I was looking at the CX5200 but they are out of stock and so is Amazon.
 I think the cx5200 is being fazed out and being replaced with the 5400.
 Since they are the same price with an additional rebate for the 5200.
 Looking at the specs they seem to be the same printer.

 Russ

Be careful. I was bitten recently by an Epson scanner. The same price newer 
model changed well-supported to is-not-and-never-will-be-supported.

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Re: [newbie] Epson All-In-one

2003-11-22 Thread Russ

Thanks for the heads up.

Russ

Richard Urwin wrote:

On Sunday 23 Nov 2003 12:51 am, Russ wrote:

Thanks Charlie for this info (and the link).

I was looking at the CX5200 but they are out of stock and so is Amazon.
I think the cx5200 is being fazed out and being replaced with the 5400.
Since they are the same price with an additional rebate for the 5200.
Looking at the specs they seem to be the same printer.
Russ


Be careful. I was bitten recently by an Epson scanner. The same price newer 
model changed well-supported to is-not-and-never-will-be-supported.



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Re: [newbie] MS Fonts?

2003-11-22 Thread Margot

HaywireMac wrote:
Whatever happened to the msttcorefonts package? Can't seem to find it through
urpmq/urpmi.
Wouldn't mind havin' Arial and that around for opening .doc's in OO.

I copied a few useful M$ fonts, including Arial, on to floppies from my 
old Win 98 machine. Installed and used them in 9.0, and have just 
installed them in 9.2 - if you don't have a Win any more, copy them from 
someone else's, then just keep the floppies to reinstall whenever you 
upgrade your Mandrake.

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Re: [newbie] England

2003-11-22 Thread anton

A hiding? I would hardly consider 15-13 a hiding... when the only thing 
you can score is penalties it makes it a little more of a margin, but 2 
points is any score away from a loss (:-), but it is true. Our lineouts 
and pitiful goalkicking lost us that game. And have you forgotten what 
we did to Australia in that same stadium a few months ago in the 
tri-nations?
The thing is that bad captaincy and leadership was the only thing 
between us and our destiny. We lost that game, nobody won it. We will be 
a world force again when Mitchell goes.
...
Anton

Mark Annandale wrote:

What Has a hiding by the Poms a couple of months ago, and Australia in the 
world cup semi's,  messed up your brain. The All blacks were a world force, 
and until they can start winning again will be second best.

Mark A



 



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Re: [newbie] MS Fonts?

2003-11-22 Thread HaywireMac

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:40:05 +
Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Happy Birthday
  http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/

Thanks, but even easier:

http://ben.reser.org/corefonts/

I always forget, google.com/linux is my best friend... ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Epson All-In-one

On Saturday 22 November 2003 08:01 pm, Russ wrote:
 Thanks for the heads up.

 Russ

 Richard Urwin wrote:
  On Sunday 23 Nov 2003 12:51 am, Russ wrote:
 Thanks Charlie for this info (and the link).
 
 I was looking at the CX5200 but they are out of stock and so is Amazon.
 I think the cx5200 is being fazed out and being replaced with the 5400.
 Since they are the same price with an additional rebate for the 5200.
 Looking at the specs they seem to be the same printer.
 
 Russ
 
  Be careful. I was bitten recently by an Epson scanner. The same price
  newer model changed well-supported to is-not-and-never-will-be-supported.

Russ:
Sometimes a direct approach is the best way to fly. Why not try an email to 
Epson tech support? It doesn't always work, but once in a while it has worked 
very well.

Take a look at the www.linuxprinting.org forums, too. There was an 11/16 post 
about the CX5400, but so far there have been no responses.

I don't know how much stock to put in it, but both the CX5200 and CX5400 are 
said to work under Mac OS X 10.2 and later. At least, it isn't a Win printer.
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Re: [newbie] testing

On Saturday 22 November 2003 07:04 pm, Phil Newcombe wrote:
 I haven't had any mail from this list since Nov 17.

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Sympa seems to have had a nervous breakdown and dumped a lot of us. Your best 
bet is to resubscribe with an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the 
subject subscribe newbie. Sympa will answer back; respond to that and all 
should be well.
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Re: [newbie] which laser printer

On Saturday 22 November 2003 07:26 pm, Charlie wrote:
 Getting a laser printer finally. I know someone who has several used ones
 that her company is getting rid of. All various brands and models. Are
 there any particular ones I should stay away from?

 Mandrake 9.1

 Thanks,

Charlie:

I've got an old Brother HL1040 and it has worked well for me. They are 
obsolete now; its successors were the HL1240 and now the HL1440.

Take a look at www.linuxprinting.org -- they have a list of winners and losers 
that could be useful to you.

Warning one: Since these are used printers, expect to replace the toner and 
perhaps the drum. Toner cartridges for this machine run about $35, but the 
drum units are brutal. Check Staples (or similar) for the cost of 
replacements.

Warning two: One of the selling points for my printer is that the paper path 
is pretty much a straight line. Printers that make the paper go around some 
tight bends are much more apt to jam, and that is not a good thing.

The one drawback with my printer is that it doesn't do postscript; not a big 
deal, but it would make setup easier if it did.

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[newbie] unsubbed by accident

2003-11-22 Thread E. Hines

Two days ago I stopped getting newbie mail.  That is very strange.  If this 
message goes through --  Eric, can you look into it?

My account can handle the volume--no problem, unless my server has somehow 
flagged the list as spam with their filter.

e.

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Re: [newbie] Epson All-In-one

2003-11-22 Thread Dennis Myers

On Saturday 22 November 2003 06:12 pm, Russ wrote:
 I was just wondering about the compatibility of Epsons all in one
 printer scanners?

 http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductCategory.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yeso
id=-8182

 They do not show up in the Mandrake compatible hardware list.

 I am interested in the Epson Stylus CX5400

 Thanks
 Russ
I checked it out on linuxprinting.org  before I bought a CX5200. It works 
very well. I am totally impressed with its capabilities.  I did not need the 
fax function. Scanning with kooka is a snap, and of course copy does not care 
what OS you use. The printing is very nice, durabright inks are quite stable 
and you can get replacement cartridges on line for less than the normal 
retail. HTH
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Re: [newbie] unsubbed by accident

2003-11-22 Thread dfox

Somebody scribbled about [newbie] unsubbed by accident
Two days ago I stopped getting newbie mail.  That is very strange.  If
 this message goes through --  Eric, can you look into it?

Ditto - this happened to me as well - all lists (newbie, expert, even 
changelog) got unsubbed.

e.

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Re: [newbie] unsubbed by accident

2003-11-22 Thread Rob Blomquist

On Saturday 22 November 2003 8:10 pm, dfox wrote:
 Somebody scribbled about [newbie] unsubbed by accident

 Two days ago I stopped getting newbie mail.  That is very strange.  If
  this message goes through --  Eric, can you look into it?

 Ditto - this happened to me as well - all lists (newbie, expert, even
 changelog) got unsubbed.

I got unsubbed too, my last email was 11/16 on the newbie list, but I didn't 
get unsubbed from the expert list.

Rob

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Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc

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Hi Charlie,

On Saturday, November 22, 2003, at 1:23:56 PM PST, you wrote:

 urpmi.update -a  urpmi --auto-select enter

Thanks...that worked well.  Now though...

After that update session, several menu items were missing. I then
used the following command: update-menus -v, and things looked
*almost* normal again (fewer items in the task bar). But then... I
went into the menu/task bar configuration options, and experimented
there a bit (I thought I was just adding a few menu items to the main
K menu). When I finished with that, my K menu didn't look anything
like what I expected, and certain applications are no longer in any of
the sub-menus! Some notable missing items:

Configuration sub-menu is missing.  I can only get to Mandrake
Control Center via the mcc command in a Konsole, but I don't know
how to get to the other configuration options that used to be under
the now missing configuration sub-menu.

Emacs is gone from the text editor sub-menu!  Eek! Where did it go?

There are several other changes to the K menu and its sub-menus,
and missing icons that were normally on the task bar by default.

I'm not sure what I've done, but for the moment, I'd kind of like to
get back to the K menu/sub-menus and task bar that I'm still trying
to get used to.  I'd also just like to know why when I try to *add*
things, other things disappear?

Thanks!

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[newbie] Eek! Am I really connected?!

Hi

This is a test.  It looks like I've sorted out my ethernet connection.  
We'll see if this goes anywhere.  :-)

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Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc

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Saturday 22 November 2003 9:49 pm, Melissa Reese wrote:
 Hi Charlie,

 On Saturday, November 22, 2003, at 1:23:56 PM PST, you wrote:
  urpmi.update -a  urpmi --auto-select enter

 Thanks...that worked well.  Now though...

 After that update session, several menu items were missing. I then
 used the following command: update-menus -v, and things looked
 *almost* normal again (fewer items in the task bar). But then... I
 went into the menu/task bar configuration options, and experimented
 there a bit (I thought I was just adding a few menu items to the main
 K menu). When I finished with that, my K menu didn't look anything
 like what I expected, and certain applications are no longer in any of
 the sub-menus! Some notable missing items:

That's a strange one but not really unexpected at all. There's another command 
below to try to get back what you lost, keep track of any error messages 
generated when you run it.

 Configuration sub-menu is missing.  I can only get to Mandrake
 Control Center via the mcc command in a Konsole, but I don't know
 how to get to the other configuration options that used to be under
 the now missing configuration sub-menu.

 Emacs is gone from the text editor sub-menu!  Eek! Where did it go?

That's a new one. I've never noticed emacs going missing from the menu. I'll 
have to give that some thought.

 There are several other changes to the K menu and its sub-menus,
 and missing icons that were normally on the task bar by default.

Which ones Melissa? The Open Office icons went missing from my task bar during 
the last round of updates but I didn't care since I dislike clutter and 
they're still under the Office sub-menu in the K menu anyway.

 I'm not sure what I've done, but for the moment, I'd kind of like to
 get back to the K menu/sub-menus and task bar that I'm still trying
 to get used to.  I'd also just like to know why when I try to *add*
 things, other things disappear?

It's probably a part of the original missing menu items problem, and will 
return to normal when you run the command below.

 Thanks!

You're welcome.

Try the following command:

rpm --rebuilddb  updatedb  update-menus -n -v  ldconfig enter

Holler if you need to.

Regards;
Charlie
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Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk
22:26:04 up 2 days, 13:05, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.47, 0.70
Hoare's Law of Large Problems:
Inside every large problem is a small problem struggling to get out.
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Re: [newbie] Eek! Am I really connected?!

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Saturday 22 November 2003 10:22 pm, Melissa Reese wrote:
 Hi

 This is a test.  It looks like I've sorted out my ethernet connection.
 We'll see if this goes anywhere.  :-)

Welcome home Melissa! g See what you can do when you put your mind to it:

Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Musica Insomnia
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/mixed;
  boundary=--=_1069547952-2209-1186
Precedence: list
X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3
X-Sequence: 371

That's a snip from the headers on the message you sent from Mandrake, your 
first. 

Happy now? (-;

Peace;
Charlie
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22:41:43 up 2 days, 13:21, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.25
A woman did what a woman had to, the best way she knew how.
To do more was impossible, to do less, unthinkable.
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Re: [newbie] Eek! Am I really connected?!

On Saturday 22 November 2003 09:44 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:

 Happy now? (-;

Yes!  Thanks to everyone who has suffered through my troubles and 
helped me anyway!  :-)

I still have a lot to figure out here (currently dealing with my 
missing menu items issue), but I'll get it sorted out eventually.

Now I have to figure out how to set up my GnuPG (I've copied my GnuPG 
keyrings and trustdb to a holding directory for now, but I don't know 
where to put them).  Also...are the extensions for the keyrings and 
name of trustdb the same in Windows and Linux?

I should start a new thread for that stuff...so don't worry about 
answering these questions in this thread, as it would only get lost.

Thanks again!

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[newbie] GnuPG - getting it set up

Hi,

Now that my ethernet connection is fully functional, I'd like to start 
experimenting with the various email clients.  I'm starting out with 
Kmail.

In Windows, I'm using GnuPG, so I'd like to get my GnuPG keyrings and 
trustdb into my Mandrake installation, but I have no idea how to go 
about this...or even where to put them.

Can anyone give me some ideas?

Thanks!

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[newbie] Local SMTP server?

Hi,

Another question, another thread...

In Windows, because I found several of the SMTP servers of my various 
accounts to be unreliable, I've been using my own little SMTP server 
to send mail from all my accounts.

I *know* there must be such a thing I can set up in Mandrake.  Can 
anyone steer me in the right direction?

Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] GnuPG - getting it set up

2003-11-22 Thread Paul Harrison

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Melissa Reese wrote:
| ...I'd like to get my GnuPG keyrings and
| trustdb into my Mandrake installation, but I have no idea how to go
| about this...or even where to put them.
|
| Can anyone give me some ideas?
As a relative newbie who is allergic to the command line, may I
recommend kgpg?  This does all the gnupg management your would ever want
in a GUI.
Not tried kmail, but I *can* tell you that kgpg, Mozilla 1.5 + enigmail
plugin makes gnupg a breeze.
Paul
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Re: [newbie] Not receiving mail

2003-11-22 Thread Dennis Myers

On Tuesday 18 November 2003 10:56 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
   John, we checked your subscription and your payment is past due.
   You owe each member of the list $10 US  please mail the total
   amount to me and I will be happy to distribute it. : )
 
  Oh wait, is it my turn to be treasurer?

 set newbie-treasurer dennis
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Re: [newbie] Eek! Am I really connected?!

 I still have a lot to figure out here (currently dealing with my 
 missing menu items issue), but I'll get it sorted out eventually.

Make sure to update you software.  There is a fix to rpm which was
causing menu trouble.

But first, i'd run 

update-menus -n

The n was suggested by Tom.  Not sure what it does, but i guess it's
what cooker folks use.

 I should start a new thread for that stuff...so don't worry about 
 answering these questions in this thread, as it would only get
 lost.

oops

eric

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Re: [newbie] GnuPG - getting it set up